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| sbalneav | Evening all | 05:19 |
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| hungrysa1 | anyone here do PHP? | 06:00 |
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| stgraber | ogra, sbalneav: I'm looking for a cheap thin clients (not old computer), do you know of a good one, is http://www.disklessworkstations.com/cgi-bin/web/info/ltsp_t1000.html now supposed to work with Gutsy ? | 10:39 |
| ogra | stgraber, its the worst HW i know ... | 10:41 |
| stgraber | hehe, any suggestion then ? :) | 10:41 |
| ogra | rather spend 20-50 bucks more and have something proper | 10:41 |
| RichEd | hi ogra ... got your desktop art from Jill ... will forward to you in a bit | 10:41 |
| ogra | ebay is a good source | 10:41 |
| ogra | RichEd, thanks :) | 10:42 |
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| rockprincess | howdy! | 11:13 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | rockprincess, ! :) | 11:21 |
| rockprincess | howdy Kamping_Kaiser! Long time, no speak! :) How's it going? | 11:26 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | rockprincess, i know ! i'm working full time atm - i should be doing some work now ( didnt go to work today :S), but i'm reading a book then ill be having a hack | 11:27 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | rockprincess, hows things been, i havent seen anything from you in ages | 11:27 |
| rockprincess | Kamping_Kaiser: ohh what book are you reading currently? | 11:32 |
| rockprincess | Kamping_Kaiser: i know i know. I've been quite lazy, but actually at the moment I'm really close to finishing my paper on the edubuntu project at my local highschool ..... :D after it has been reviewed by my supervisor at uni it's time to crack open the champagne :D | 11:33 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | rockprincess, let us know when its time , i'll be in on that ;) | 11:34 |
| rockprincess | Kamping_Kaiser: for sure :D | 11:34 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i was reading "when sysadmins ruled the earth" by doctorow, intersting short story | 11:34 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | endings not wonderful imo, but i cant do better :) | 11:34 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | woot! | 11:34 |
| rockprincess | ohh would you recommend it? | 11:34 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | if you want something to kill 1-2 hours, definately | 11:35 |
| rockprincess | good! :) I'll be looking out for that! | 11:35 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | the version on his blog is a bit drafty, just a tic | 11:37 |
| rockprincess | do you know if there's a recommendation for the hardware of an edubuntu server by the edubuntu developer team, something like this (sorry it's only in german, but you get the point) http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Edubuntu/Konzept ....i think it might be a bit outdated | 11:37 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | http://baens-universe.com/articles/When_Sysadmins_Ruled_the_Earth | 11:37 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | looking | 11:37 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | rockprincess, are you after recommended hardware spec, or a list of hardware to run on? | 11:39 |
| rockprincess | recommended hardware, hardware that would run an edubuntu server best..... | 11:40 |
| rockprincess | which would be like a "guide" for my paper | 11:40 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | iirc thers an offical minimum spec+how to change it for extra users, but not a list of 'buy this computer and it will do the job' | 11:41 |
| rockprincess | ok cool, where do I find this minimum specs? | 11:44 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | um, let me look | 11:47 |
| rockprincess | my specs were: 1 AMD Athlon 64 3800+, 2.4 Ghz Processor + 1 Mainboard Socket-AM2 ASUS M2NPV-VM + 2x DDR2-RAM 1024MB, PC2-800 Mhz + 1 SATA II Seagate Barracuda, 320 GB + 1 LG GSA-H50N DVD Burner + 1 Midi Tower Thermaltake ATX + 1 additional Network Card 3Com BROADCOM 5904 | 11:47 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | broadcom== ewwwww | 11:52 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | rockprincess, sorry, might have missed stuff :( | 11:54 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | got your server spec, replied: | 11:54 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | <Kamping_Kaiser> broadcom== ewwwww | 11:54 |
| rockprincess | i know i know, but it was for free so i didn't mind using it | 11:54 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | <Kamping_Kaiser> rockprincess, is that a server you have built, or plan to build? | 11:54 |
| rockprincess | i've built.....but i didn't think of it as a "server" when i bought the components rather more than a personal computer that i now use at home, because i only used the server for like 4-5 months at school, then my project was over.... | 11:55 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ah right | 11:55 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | rockprincess, reasonably offical: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToCookEdubuntu/Chapters/HardwareRequirements https://wiki.edubuntu.org/HowToCookEdubuntu/Chapters/StandAloneHardware | 11:58 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | HardwareRequirements page isnt to crash hot | 11:58 |
| rockprincess | cheers, my man! that's what I was looking for ;) | 12:03 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | hehe, np. | 12:03 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i think the HardwareRequirements page should have some example servers - x users, doing x applications, needs xx server | 12:04 |
| rockprincess | that'd be a great idea, to give people an idea what they can do with it.... | 12:04 |
| rockprincess | e.g. what it's capable of! | 12:04 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | zactly :) | 12:05 |
| rockprincess | a recommendation towards a switch/hub and network cards would also be a good idea, because that's actually the reason why it was so slow for me :( | 12:06 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | good idea | 12:07 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | it meantions for the server, but not clients | 12:08 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | WHOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the password for our CA key has been found! | 12:09 |
| rockprincess | yeah i thought the (thin) clients could be anything really?! | 12:09 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | technically they can | 12:10 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | but depending on what you want to do with them you'll need more or less bandwidth | 12:10 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | where it talks of the server card it says '2mb is ok, but you might need up to 70' | 12:10 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | now try and pump 70mb through a 10mb card ;) | 12:10 |
| rockprincess | haha indeed! | 12:10 |
| rockprincess | i used 6 clients with my setup but would have loved to use another 7 clients.... | 12:11 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | The Hut has ~20 clients | 12:11 |
| rockprincess | The Hut? | 12:12 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | thankfully the switch is a good bit of gear, and we have gigabit uplink from the server -> switch. | 12:12 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | community group where i use LTSP | 12:12 |
| rockprincess | ahhh nice! | 12:12 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | 3.6gb backplane iirc. netgear | 12:12 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | its got fiber inputs, just got no fiber in the server :) | 12:12 |
| rockprincess | what does such a switch cost currently? | 12:14 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | not sure, we bought it two years ago | 12:15 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | i'm lagging like hell atm :( sites arnt loading properly | 12:17 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | cant find the switch in the network, so i cant look it up exactly | 12:19 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | The following error message indicates that a problem has occurred on the Web server that hosts the Web site at the time the error is returned. | 12:20 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | suppose the blame wasnt entirely unjustified... | 12:20 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | rockprincess, its roughly this: http://netgear.com/Products/Switches/Layer2ManagedSwitches/FSM726S.aspx?detail=Specifications | 12:24 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | cant work out exactcly | 12:24 |
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| sbalneav | Morning all | 02:59 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | hey | 03:00 |
| Keneo | lo | 03:00 |
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| sbalneav | ogra: You around dude? | 04:20 |
| ogra | yep | 04:20 |
| bddebian | Heya | 04:20 |
| ogra | http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/04/technology/circuits/04basics.html?em&ex=1191643200&en=343f36ba48d9c688&ei=5087%0A | 04:20 |
| ogra | :) | 04:20 |
| sbalneav | I'm having a problem here which, quite frankly, is terrifying me. | 04:21 |
| ogra | me too, me too | 04:21 |
| sbalneav | All of my workstations are via edens EPIA 5000 mobos. | 04:21 |
| ogra | i'm near the point where i just drop the progress bar in favor of "please wait ..." | 04:21 |
| sbalneav | since I've moved to gutsy LTSP on this one machine, we keep getting USB mouse dropouts. | 04:22 |
| ogra | hmm | 04:22 |
| sbalneav | Mouse light goes out | 04:22 |
| sbalneav | plugging and unplugging it doesn't do anything | 04:22 |
| sbalneav | dmesg keeps spitting out: | 04:22 |
| sbalneav | usb 1-1: device descriptor read/64, error -110 | 04:23 |
| shriphani | hello sbalneav, ogra | 04:23 |
| ogra | hmm, try #ubuntu-kernel | 04:23 |
| sbalneav | ok | 04:23 |
| ogra | i'd have guessed udev, but that looks rather like a kernel issue | 04:23 |
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| LaserJock | Amaranth: heah, thanks for the response, I should get the interview up soon | 12:17 |
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