=== pitux [n=pitux@148-189-21-190.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-175-179.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === merriam [n=merriam@85-211-21-215.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu === boyam [i=boyam@166-82-170-77.quickclick.ctc.net] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu === oshiii-_^ [n=h1@unaffiliated/oshiii/x-3278] has joined #edubuntu === SimonAnibal [n=sruiz@pool-71-97-141-214.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === pitux [n=pitux@148-189-21-190.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu [05:19] Evening all === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === pitux [n=pitux@148-189-21-190.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === hungrysa1 [n=beninati@190.40.105.154] has joined #edubuntu [06:00] anyone here do PHP? === hungrysa1 [n=beninati@190.40.105.154] has left #edubuntu [] === SimonAnibal_ [n=sruiz@pool-71-97-141-214.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === merriam [n=merriam@85-211-143-106.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd-1 [n=richard@dsl-245-157-104.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd-1 is now known as RichEd === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === edubuntugirl [n=edubuntu@ubuntu/bot/edubuntugirl] has joined #edubuntu === ludoRA [n=Ludovic@AAnnecy-152-1-82-125.w86-197.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #Edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu [10:39] ogra, sbalneav: I'm looking for a cheap thin clients (not old computer), do you know of a good one, is http://www.disklessworkstations.com/cgi-bin/web/info/ltsp_t1000.html now supposed to work with Gutsy ? [10:41] stgraber, its the worst HW i know ... [10:41] hehe, any suggestion then ? :) [10:41] rather spend 20-50 bucks more and have something proper [10:41] hi ogra ... got your desktop art from Jill ... will forward to you in a bit [10:41] ebay is a good source [10:42] RichEd, thanks :) === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === rockprincess [n=theresa@chello084112026078.6.11.vie.surfer.at] has joined #edubuntu === jbrefort [n=jean@mar44-2-82-227-215-241.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu [11:13] howdy! === migi [i=migi@nat/sun/x-c3bdb5ac6388a79d] has joined #edubuntu [11:21] rockprincess, ! :) [11:26] howdy Kamping_Kaiser! Long time, no speak! :) How's it going? [11:27] rockprincess, i know ! i'm working full time atm - i should be doing some work now ( didnt go to work today :S), but i'm reading a book then ill be having a hack [11:27] rockprincess, hows things been, i havent seen anything from you in ages [11:32] Kamping_Kaiser: ohh what book are you reading currently? [11:33] Kamping_Kaiser: i know i know. I've been quite lazy, but actually at the moment I'm really close to finishing my paper on the edubuntu project at my local highschool ..... :D after it has been reviewed by my supervisor at uni it's time to crack open the champagne :D [11:34] rockprincess, let us know when its time , i'll be in on that ;) [11:34] Kamping_Kaiser: for sure :D [11:34] i was reading "when sysadmins ruled the earth" by doctorow, intersting short story [11:34] endings not wonderful imo, but i cant do better :) [11:34] woot! [11:34] ohh would you recommend it? [11:35] if you want something to kill 1-2 hours, definately [11:35] good! :) I'll be looking out for that! [11:37] the version on his blog is a bit drafty, just a tic [11:37] do you know if there's a recommendation for the hardware of an edubuntu server by the edubuntu developer team, something like this (sorry it's only in german, but you get the point) http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Edubuntu/Konzept ....i think it might be a bit outdated [11:37] http://baens-universe.com/articles/When_Sysadmins_Ruled_the_Earth [11:37] looking === Kamping_Kaiser larts -au internet [11:39] rockprincess, are you after recommended hardware spec, or a list of hardware to run on? [11:40] recommended hardware, hardware that would run an edubuntu server best..... [11:40] which would be like a "guide" for my paper [11:41] iirc thers an offical minimum spec+how to change it for extra users, but not a list of 'buy this computer and it will do the job' [11:44] ok cool, where do I find this minimum specs? [11:47] um, let me look [11:47] my specs were: 1 AMD Athlon 64 3800+, 2.4 Ghz Processor + 1 Mainboard Socket-AM2 ASUS M2NPV-VM + 2x DDR2-RAM 1024MB, PC2-800 Mhz + 1 SATA II Seagate Barracuda, 320 GB + 1 LG GSA-H50N DVD Burner + 1 Midi Tower Thermaltake ATX + 1 additional Network Card 3Com BROADCOM 5904 === migi [i=migi@nat/sun/x-c3bdb5ac6388a79d] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] [11:52] broadcom== ewwwww === Kamping_Kaiser [n=kgoetz@gnewsense/friend/kgoetz] has joined #edubuntu [11:54] rockprincess, sorry, might have missed stuff :( [11:54] got your server spec, replied: [11:54] broadcom== ewwwww [11:54] i know i know, but it was for free so i didn't mind using it [11:54] rockprincess, is that a server you have built, or plan to build? [11:55] i've built.....but i didn't think of it as a "server" when i bought the components rather more than a personal computer that i now use at home, because i only used the server for like 4-5 months at school, then my project was over.... [11:55] ah right [11:58] rockprincess, reasonably offical: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToCookEdubuntu/Chapters/HardwareRequirements https://wiki.edubuntu.org/HowToCookEdubuntu/Chapters/StandAloneHardware [11:58] HardwareRequirements page isnt to crash hot [12:03] cheers, my man! that's what I was looking for ;) [12:03] hehe, np. [12:04] i think the HardwareRequirements page should have some example servers - x users, doing x applications, needs xx server [12:04] that'd be a great idea, to give people an idea what they can do with it.... [12:04] e.g. what it's capable of! [12:05] zactly :) [12:06] a recommendation towards a switch/hub and network cards would also be a good idea, because that's actually the reason why it was so slow for me :( [12:07] good idea [12:08] it meantions for the server, but not clients === ludoRA [n=Ludovic@AAnnecy-152-1-82-125.w86-197.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #Edubuntu [12:09] WHOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the password for our CA key has been found! [12:09] yeah i thought the (thin) clients could be anything really?! [12:10] technically they can [12:10] but depending on what you want to do with them you'll need more or less bandwidth [12:10] where it talks of the server card it says '2mb is ok, but you might need up to 70' [12:10] now try and pump 70mb through a 10mb card ;) [12:10] haha indeed! [12:11] i used 6 clients with my setup but would have loved to use another 7 clients.... [12:11] The Hut has ~20 clients [12:12] The Hut? [12:12] thankfully the switch is a good bit of gear, and we have gigabit uplink from the server -> switch. [12:12] community group where i use LTSP [12:12] ahhh nice! [12:12] 3.6gb backplane iirc. netgear [12:12] its got fiber inputs, just got no fiber in the server :) [12:14] what does such a switch cost currently? [12:15] not sure, we bought it two years ago === Kamping_Kaiser goes to check online, if he can [12:17] i'm lagging like hell atm :( sites arnt loading properly === Kamping_Kaiser blames netgear for using MS servers [12:19] cant find the switch in the network, so i cant look it up exactly [12:20] The following error message indicates that a problem has occurred on the Web server that hosts the Web site at the time the error is returned. [12:20] suppose the blame wasnt entirely unjustified... [12:24] rockprincess, its roughly this: http://netgear.com/Products/Switches/Layer2ManagedSwitches/FSM726S.aspx?detail=Specifications [12:24] cant work out exactcly === Rondom [n=Rondom@p57A96B09.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === vistakiller [n=spiros@ppp94-227.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === vistakiller [n=spiros@ppp94-227.adsl.forthnet.gr] has left #edubuntu [] === vistakiller [n=spiros@ppp94-227.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #edubuntu === TelnetManta [n=benwilli@72.159.132.4] has joined #edubuntu === humbolto [n=elias@u-121-071.adsl.univie.ac.at] has joined #edubuntu === pusakat [i=xenos@born.free.net.ph] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === jens_ [n=jens@86-39-1-64.customer.fulladsl.be] has joined #edubuntu [02:59] Morning all === jens_ is now known as Keneo [03:00] hey [03:00] lo === shriphani [n=shriphan@219.91.188.167] has joined #edubuntu === jens_ [n=jens@86-39-1-151.customer.fulladsl.be] has joined #edubuntu === jens__ [n=jens@86-39-1-45.customer.fulladsl.be] has joined #edubuntu === ludoRA [n=Ludovic@AAnnecy-152-1-82-125.w86-197.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #Edubuntu === jonkke [i=jonkke@dsl-jklbrasgw1-fe0ffb00-114.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #edubuntu === humbolto [n=elias@u-121-071.adsl.univie.ac.at] has joined #edubuntu === jens__ [n=jens@86-39-1-35.customer.fulladsl.be] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@42.235.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #edubuntu === jonkke [i=jonkke@dsl-jklbrasgw1-fe0ffb00-114.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #edubuntu === ludoRA [n=Ludovic@AAnnecy-152-1-82-125.w86-197.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #Edubuntu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #edubuntu [04:20] ogra: You around dude? [04:20] yep [04:20] Heya [04:20] http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/04/technology/circuits/04basics.html?em&ex=1191643200&en=343f36ba48d9c688&ei=5087%0A [04:20] :) [04:21] I'm having a problem here which, quite frankly, is terrifying me. [04:21] me too, me too [04:21] All of my workstations are via edens EPIA 5000 mobos. [04:21] i'm near the point where i just drop the progress bar in favor of "please wait ..." [04:22] since I've moved to gutsy LTSP on this one machine, we keep getting USB mouse dropouts. 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