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ardchoilleroot____: It open the konqueror file manager as rot user.12:41
root____oh I know what it does12:41
root____that's like gksudo nautilus in gnome12:41
ardchoilleRight12:41
root____well anyways the fonts still aren't there12:41
root____I put them in /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-lucida12:41
ardchoilleYou probably wouldn't like the way those fonts look anyway12:41
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ardchoilleroot____: Did you restart kcontrol?12:42
BluesKajsebastian, ask your question12:42
parsnipsebastian: wassup?12:42
sebastianI am trying to burn a file bigger than 4 gb in k3b12:42
sebastianand it keeps saying that it's not possible to add files bigger than that12:43
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root____that did it12:43
sebastianI've been googling about an answer but couldn't found nothing12:43
parsnipsebastian: if you make an iso of the files first does it work?12:44
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sebastianit's an mkv video file12:44
parsnipsebastian: make an iso of the file and try burning that12:44
sebastianand its 4.2 gb12:45
ardchoilleparsnip: How do you make an iso from a collection of files?12:45
parsnipsebastian: ardchoille: mkisofs -o ~/DVD.iso /path/to/files/12:46
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ardchoilleparsnip: Ah, thank you12:46
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sebastianand then I try to burn de DVD from de ISO file?12:46
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ardchoillesebastian: Yes, but you'll have to install mkisofs first12:47
redoohy@all12:47
sebastianok, I already have it12:47
sebastianthanks, I'll give it a try12:47
ardchoillesebastian: You have to burn the iso as an image, not as a file12:47
sebastianright, thank you ardchoille12:48
redooi need a tool to convert movie files into flv files, is there a simple tool?12:48
parsnipsebastian: to burn the iso, open K3b then open the iso12:48
parsnipredoo: what is the original file format12:48
redooparsnip: avi & mpg12:49
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ardchoille!info tovid12:50
ubotuPackage tovid does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas12:50
sebastianno luck: 'genisoimage: Value too large for defined data type'12:50
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sebastianit ignores the file that is larger than 4 gb12:50
NickPresta!find tovid12:50
lovreim back... much later than i supposed i will...12:50
lovrehi all12:50
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nosrednaekimlovre: hey12:51
ubotuPackage/file tovid does not exist in feisty12:51
WoahWoah]  <WoahWoah> Hey guys! I'm quite a new linux user and the help I've had from some people here has been amazing. This is a slightly different question, it's actually on music. I'm trying to locate a song sung by an (African American lady e.g Kelly Rowland, Beyonce?) Some of the lyrics are "Put your hands up...." and "About ya baby".... It's quite a dancey song12:51
lavacano201014oats12:51
ardchoilleNickPresta: I thought it was in the repos12:51
nosrednaekimWoahWoah: #kubuntu-offtopic12:51
BluesKajyup sebastian , tovid rocks ...no problem there , it also converts.mkv files to mpeg for dvd12:51
NickPrestaardchoille, I may have found a deb on UF somewhere. I forgot12:51
parsnipredoo: http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/ffmpeg-user/2007-March/007281.html12:51
lovrecan some1 help me on how to install a theme in kubuntu?12:51
sebastiantovis? that's the package name?12:51
WoahWoahLol, thank you!12:51
sebastiantovid, sorry12:52
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ardchoillelovre: What kind of theme is it?12:52
BluesKajtovid yes12:52
root____I need help with step 712:52
sebastianit's not on the repos12:52
lovreardchoille: i was thinking about this: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/NuoveXT2-Theme?content=6668512:53
BluesKajsebastian, you can get help at #tovid here on freenode, the guys there are very helpful12:53
lovreardchoille: im total noob to all this, so can you instruct me how to set this up*12:53
sebastianok, thanks BluesKaj12:53
lovreardchoille: cuz when i download it, theres just a bunch of files, i dont know what to do with them12:53
ardchoilleroot____: First, I suggest you do this: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup12:53
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ardchoillelovre: Ok, which one of those do you want?12:54
redooparsnip: is there no easier way?12:55
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lovreardchoille: i gave you the link: branka.zesoi.fer.hr12:55
lovreardchoille: sorry12:55
lovreardchoille: wrong link12:55
lovreardchoille: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/NuoveXT2-Theme?content=6668512:55
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ardchoillelovre: yes, I'm there. There are 4 different themes there for 4 diff apps. Which one do you want?12:56
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lovreardchoille: im new to this, i dont understand what you mean. I just want to change the way everything look (windows, etc), like on the picture12:57
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parsnipredoo: not that im aware12:57
redooparsnip: ok, thx12:57
ardchoillelovre: Ok, he's using the color scheme, which just changes the colors of windows. He also has a kbfx theme there which themes the kbfx menu applet in kicker. There's also an amarok theme and a wallpaper12:58
parsnipredoo: np man12:58
lovreardchoille: so kbfxis like a skinning application?12:59
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lovreardchoille: do i need to install it in order to use his theme?12:59
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ardchoillelovre: No, kbfx is the menu applet in the bottom left of the second screenshot on that link01:00
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lovreardchoille: like the "Start" menu?01:00
ardchoillelovre: If you're wanting the look of the first screenshot, then that is just a color scheme.. it's easy to install01:00
ardchoillelovre: yes, but you will need to install kbfx to use that theme01:00
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ardchoillelovre: kbfx is a replacement for the kmenu01:01
lovrei see01:01
lovreardchoille: ok, i just want it to look like on the first screenshot01:01
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lovreardchoille: what do i do01:01
lovreardchoille: just started with kubuntu and linux generally - dont wonder why i dont know this :D01:02
ardchoillelovre: Click on the first link at the bottom that says "Domino Config/Color Scheme"01:02
spencer--Is there a channel for Libre OSS in general?01:02
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nosrednaekimspencer--: hmmm there is #linux01:02
ardchoillelovre: Save it to disk01:03
lovreardchoille: done01:03
lovreardchoille: what now01:05
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leifhi01:05
ardchoillelovre: Unpack the 66685-nuovext2.zip file and find the NuoveXT2.kcsrc file in the contents. Open a terminal and type:  mkdir -p ~/.kde/share/apps/kdisplay/color-schemes01:05
leifdoes someone have a canon s5 is camera running on kubuntu?01:06
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ardchoillelovre: Then find the NuoveXT2.kcsrc file and copy it to ~/.kde/share/apps/kdisplay/color-schemes. When that is done, open kcontrol, go to Appearance & Themes > Colors  and find and select the new color scheme01:06
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root____kompmgr says it has no config file01:09
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ardchoilleroot____: It told me that too, I ignored it and it ran just fine01:09
kin(bleep) finally i found the solution!01:10
lovreardchoille: the colors have changed, but there is no transparency around edges, it doesnt look that smooth like on the picture. And the tray is not changed..... Did i do something wrong01:10
lovre?01:10
root____how do I know if it ran ok?01:10
kini found multiple eth0 lines in route -n01:10
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root____it says connection refused, no protocol and can't open display01:10
kinthats why i can connect via pptp01:10
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ozehkahey, numbers from "seq" are in format 1,23 but i want them in 1.23 - i know its my locale, but if i check the kde-locale-settings seperator is set on "." actually01:11
root____oh do I have to restart kde01:11
ardchoillelovre: There's no transparency around the edhes of the window in that screenshot either. The one you are probably talking about is the amarok window, that's a music player.01:11
ardchoilleroot____: Did you edit xorg.conf?01:11
ozehka"locale" gives me "de_DE.utf8" though (not what i want)01:11
root____ardchoille: yeah01:12
ozehkaso someone locale and kde-settings do not agree01:12
ozehkaany help?01:12
kinmaybe a dumb question: is firewall standard in kubuntu? and which virus protection do you recommend?01:12
root____ardchoille: also man I have no window borders01:12
ardchoilleroot____: Anytime you edit xorg.conf, you need to restart x. did you do that?01:12
root____k i will restart01:12
root____bbl01:12
lovreardchoille: and why didnt the taskbar change? and the minimize and exit buttons on the windows? (sory to bother you this much)01:12
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ardchoillelovre: It's no bother. Sometimes the kicker doesn't change and you have to restart kicker. But, be aware that restarting kicker will kill any apps that use a tray icon (like gaim and konversation). to restart kicker do: : dcop kicker default restart01:14
lovreardchoille: what is kicker anyways?01:15
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ardchoillelovre: it's the panel across the bottom of your screen.01:15
lovrei see01:15
ardchoillelovre: Keep in mind that is just a color scheme.. it won't change widget styles.01:15
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lovreardchoille: and what if i want to change a little more, like windows tranparency, button appeareance and rest?01:16
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dhjfhkdsjfhow do i install something in linux01:17
LjL!software > dhjfhkdsjf    (dhjfhkdsjf, see the private message from Ubotu)01:17
dhjfhkdsjfwats the basic command01:17
ardchoillelovre: For winodw borders, you need a kwin decoration. For controls (buttons, scrollbars, etc), you need a style. Both types are on kde-look.org01:17
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ownzhola01:18
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ardchoillelovre: For transparency it's best to have 3d hardware accelleration (ati, nvidia, etc) and the appropriate drivers. But transparency can be done totally in kde with kompmgr01:19
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wiikget su*** >_<01:19
ardchoilleWow, lots of question I can actually answer from folks today. Makes me feel needed :)01:20
wiiaah not realy01:20
lovreardchoille: i entered 'kompmgr' in console, but nothing happened, the windows just shortly dissappeared and the reappeared01:20
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nathan__oh my god this is sooooooooo slow01:21
ardchoillelovre: You need to edit xorg to get that working01:21
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lovreardchoille: i see windows transparent... its slow, how do i turn it off?01:21
nathan__there's literally a 5 second delay from click to focus01:21
nathan__whoever wrote this transparency needs to be beaten01:22
dwidmannI'm having a peculiar problem with grub, seems it doesn't want to read the configfile, it jumps to a shell at boot and I have to "configfile /grub/menu.lst" for it to read it ...01:22
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wiiPIKACHUU >_<01:22
lovreardchoille: i quit console and it stoped :D01:22
lovreardchoille: why is it so slow?01:22
wiilovre: why didnt u take off the r off your name?01:23
ardchoillelovre: do you have a good graphics card (nvidia)?01:23
wiiPIKACHUU >_<*01:23
nathan__wow that was the most terrible thing ever01:23
nathan__I'm not doing kde translucency ever again until it's fixed01:23
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ardchoillenathan__: I have an nvidia card and it's fast for me01:23
lovreardchoille: yes, i have nVidia 7900GS that runs all new games like colin DIRT and such01:23
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ardchoillelovre: did you edit xorg.conf and restart x?01:24
lovrewii: because it has nothing to do with the world 'love'01:24
lovrear01:24
nathan__ardchoille: gnome transparencies was super smooth. kde translucency literally 5 seconds from click to focus01:24
lovreardchoille: where do i find xorg.conf file?01:24
DaSkreechardchoille: You are needed :)01:24
nathan__I have a 7900 too01:24
nathan__i think01:24
wiilovre: so hat does it mean?lovre?01:24
lovrewii01:25
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lovrewii: it is a name, it has no meaning. at least none i could translate01:25
wiihelp me im trying to install my webcam trust wb-540001:25
ardchoillelovre: Here is some info about it. I followed this section of this tutorial and had transparency working in minutes and it was fast: http://baghira.sourceforge.net/OS_Clone-en.php#step701:25
wiilovre: your name su*** then >_<01:25
lovrewii: thank you, that is really mature.01:26
ardchoillenathan__: Did you edit xorg.conf and restart x before trying the kompmgr transparency?01:26
DaSkreech!webcam | wii01:26
ubotuwii: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras01:26
ardchoillewii: Please try to be nice to others.01:26
wiilovre: u welcome q_p01:26
DaSkreech!coc | wii01:26
nathan__ardchoille: yeah at the same time01:27
ubotuwii: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/01:27
nathan__my screen is all off center now too01:27
nathan__ill brb01:27
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nathan__god that was painful01:28
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wiiDaSkreech: coc??? wa is that will it help me for my cam?01:29
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nathan__how do I tell what kind of video card is in here01:29
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nathan__I know it's nvidia 7 something01:29
DaSkreechNo that's the code of conduct for people in this channel please read it01:29
ardchoilleWell folks, all I can say is I have nvidia GeForce 6200 card and drivers on an AMD Sempron 2800 with 2gb ram and got transparency working great with just kompmgr01:29
DaSkreech the link above that was for your webcam01:29
nathan__nvm i found it01:30
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nathan__ardchoille: i have a dual core xeon 2.3 with a geforce 730001:34
ardchoillenathan__: fwiw, the translucency in kcontrol is still experimental, iirc01:34
nathan__yeah it is01:34
nathan__can you help with my borders01:35
nathan__or lack of01:35
ardchoillenathan__: Perhaps try xcompmgr for transparency?01:35
ardchoillenathan__: You lost your window borders with the kompmgr stuff?01:35
nathan__i can't because it says i can't make executables or something remember?01:36
wiiwhy when i lauch beryl everything is white?01:36
nathan__I don't think I ever had it01:36
ardchoillenathan__: xcompmgr is in the repos01:36
ardchoille!info xcompmgr01:36
ubotuxcompmgr: X composition manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.3~20060831-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 19 kB, installed size 80 kB01:36
ardchoille!compile | nathan__01:36
ubotunathan__: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)01:36
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ardchoillenathan__: You probably need to install build-essential if you're going to build apps01:37
lovrehow do i find out what KDE version im running?01:40
DaSkreech!beryl | wii01:40
ubotuwii: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects01:40
DaSkreechlovre: It's in every help menu01:40
DaSkreechhelp _> about KDE01:40
lovreDaSkreech: thank you01:40
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wiiDaSkreech: no one answering in ubuntu effects01:40
DaSkreechwii: Ah. I know about a black bug I don't know about a white one01:41
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wiilol01:41
SeanTaterI was looking at my IO stats, to find that my HD is doing 1210 10 byte reads per second. Is there a way I can make it read, say, 4096 bytes at a time instead?01:41
wiiDaSkreech: how do u solve the white on then?01:41
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DaSkreechwii: the windows are white?01:43
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wiiDaSkreech: yes01:43
wiiDaSkreech: when i spend the cube everything white xsept the red diamond01:44
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DaSkreechThe diamond?01:44
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NickPrestaDaSkreech, I assume he means the gem01:44
DaSkreechAh right01:44
DaSkreechthe beryl01:44
ardchoillethe ruby?01:44
DaSkreechDo you have trandparency turned on?01:45
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DaSkreechardchoille: Its a beryl I think01:45
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ardchoilleDaSkreech: Ah01:45
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kinquetiion: where can i find the file containing the settings shown with   route -n?01:45
wiiDaSkreech: in the  beryl manager or inkde option?01:45
kinkajouhey guys i got another question01:46
DaSkreechwii: in beryl01:46
ardchoilleI do hope root__ remembered that I had him backup his xorg.conf before editing it01:46
wiiDaSkreech: no01:46
kinkajouhow to i run driver updates .run file.... complete noob01:46
ardchoillekinkajou: Is this a video driver, ati, nvidia?01:46
kinkajouati01:47
DaSkreechwii: The desktops are white? or the windows within?01:47
kinkajouyes video driver01:47
DaSkreechkinkajou: why don't you use the ones Kubuntu provides?01:47
kinkajouwhere at? XD01:47
ardchoillekinkajou: Did you know that the ati driver is in the repos and will update when you run system updates?01:47
wiiDaSkreech: everything white01:47
kinkajouno idea01:47
ardchoille!ati | kinkajou01:48
DaSkreechwii: Do you have inside cube turned on?01:48
ubotukinkajou: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:48
kinkajouk ty01:48
wiiDaSkreech: no01:48
ardchoilleyw01:48
wiiwiiiiiiiiiii :D01:48
wiiwhit mii01:48
wiion wii01:48
wii:/01:49
ivan_can anyone provide some help on getting konqueror working?01:49
wiicrank the wii now01:49
lovrei downloaded something and its .rpm extension., how do i use it?01:49
wiiivan_: it's not working?01:49
ardchoillelovre: You don't use rpm's in kubuntu01:50
ardchoillelovre: mixing distro packages is dangerous01:50
wiilovre: kubuntu dont use rpm only deb01:50
NickPrestakinkajou, hey01:50
ardchoillelovre: What is it? an app?01:50
wiilovre: but u can convert it to deb01:50
ivan_yeah, internet seeems to work (I'm here)01:50
ardchoillewii: That still dangerous01:50
Chousukewii: that's strongly discouraged01:50
ivan_but nothing in konqueror01:50
lovreardchoille: ok, thanx01:50
ardchoillelovre: What is it? an app?01:51
wiiChousuke: lol01:51
ardchoillelovre: It may be in the repos01:51
DaSkreechlovre: what was it?01:51
wiilovre: why did u download an rpm what are u looking for is not in adept?01:51
DaSkreechwii: nvidia?01:51
ardchoillewii: He probably didn't know to look in the repos01:52
wiiDaSkreech: yes nv01:52
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wiiDaSkreech: it's not my graph card is the problem because it did me the same problem whit my ati01:52
DaSkreechwhat version of beryl?01:53
kinkajouyeah?01:53
DaSkreechlovre: What was the name of the file?01:53
=== wii wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii whit miiii on wiii !D
wiiDaSkreech: the last on01:54
ivan_does anyone have suggestions  why konqueror won't work, but I can get here? Sorry, this is my first day with kubuntu01:54
DaSkreechwii: Ah have you asked in #beryl then ?01:54
DaSkreechivan_: Won't work?01:54
wiiivan_: u try firefox?01:54
ardchoilleivan_: Define "won't work". do you get errors? crashes?01:54
ivan_"could not load www.google.com"01:55
ivan_etc..01:55
ivan_I have proxies turned off01:55
DaSkreechivan_: Does Kopete konversation etc work?01:55
ivan_yeah, that's what I'm using right now01:55
DaSkreechwell that rules out knetworkmanager01:55
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ivan_Konversation01:55
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ardchoilleDaSkreech: I uninstalled knetworkmanager. Was it a vital app?01:56
DaSkreechNaw01:56
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ardchoillewhew01:56
wiiivan_: what?01:56
ivan_I'm using Konversation right now01:56
ivan_but Konqueror cannot find any pages01:57
kinkajouanyone running wow in wine?01:57
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ardchoilleivan_: Can you load other sites into konq? yahoo? dogpile.com? ubuntu.com?01:57
lovreDaSkreech: sory, i was afk. Im following instructions. And it says: Go to Configure Panel-->Appearance-->Panel Background"01:57
lovreDaSkreech: where can i find that?01:57
DaSkreecheh?01:57
ivan_the same, can't load any of them01:57
lovreDaSkreech: "Go to Configure Panel-->Appearance-->Panel Background"01:58
lovreDaSkreech: where is that?01:58
DaSkreechlovre: Which panel?01:58
ivan_google, cnn, ctv, ubuntu, kijiji, etc01:58
ivan_none of them work01:58
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lovreDaSkreech: i dont know, it says just like that01:58
ardchoillelovre: Desktop > Panels > Panel Background01:58
DaSkreech!wow01:58
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php01:58
kinkajouanyone run WoW in wine?01:59
ardchoillelovre: They change the names of the modules in kcontrol from time to time01:59
DaSkreechkinkajou: Pretty sure. check in #winehq01:59
ardchoillekinkajou: See the link ubotu just posted01:59
kinkajouk01:59
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ivan_do I need to restart after connecting to my router in order for konqueror to connect?02:00
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NickPrestaivan_, you shouldn't, nope02:00
ivan_that's what I thought02:00
lovreardchoille: i cant find Panels in Desktop, is that in System Settings?02:00
wiiivan_: are u using a modem? and what thing u are using to conect to the net?02:00
DaSkreechivan_: did you kill konqueror?02:00
wiikppp?02:00
wiilol02:00
ardchoillelovre: I do't use system settings, I use kcontrol02:00
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DaSkreechrestart konqui I mean02:00
ivan_it's not a  router problem, my other laptop running xp can connect02:00
ivan_yeah, I restart konqueror02:01
wiiDaSkreech: i know he was a mude*****02:01
wii:/02:01
DaSkreech:-P02:01
wiimiiiiiii aint saying nothing02:01
wiiivan_: the router is not the problem it's amybe your configs?02:02
ivan_well, yes, but where can I go to check my configs?02:02
DaSkreechit would have to be konqueror specific02:02
wiiivan_: this your first time conecting to the net on linux?02:02
ivan_yes02:02
DaSkreechhave you ever been online with konqueror?02:02
ivan_no02:02
ivan_I just installed lastnight02:03
ivan_and this is my first time online, I just got eth1 working02:03
districthi anyone i like to know how to uninstall a program - ?02:03
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ardchoilleDaSkreech: Isn't there a text only web browser installed by default that he can test? I think it is w3c or somesuch02:03
districta program02:03
DaSkreechw3m02:03
ardchoillethat's it02:03
ivan_I can't even connect to my router's page, 192.168.0.102:03
wiiivan_: u maybe touch and change to many things.in what port your router does plugin too?02:03
nathan__man this would be nicer if I had borders on my windows lol02:03
ivan_I'm wireless02:04
ivan_my router is working fine02:04
wiiivan_: usb then?02:04
ivan_no02:04
ivan_internal to the laptop02:04
ivan_like I said, I'm on the laptop right now talking in this room on konversation02:04
ivan_so I think that should rule out any hardware problems02:04
districti like to know how to install and then uninstall a bin file.02:05
ivan_and my router works fine, all other computers on the network02:05
ivan_work02:05
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ivan_so I should try w3m?02:05
DaSkreechdistrict: A what file?02:05
wiiivan_: yes i know that , i had the same problem the first time i conect linux to the net i change to many things and only konversation was working02:05
districtgoogleearth.bin02:05
ardchoilleivan_: See if it will connect:  w3m www.google.com02:05
ivan_ok, I'll try that02:06
ivan_I can ping, btw,02:06
ivan_I pinged www.google.com, and it works02:06
enzo_Is it possible to watch a video in CLI?02:06
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wiiivan_: all the other computer is on the network because they on xp02:06
enzo_If I were to remove the KDE GUI, can I use the CLI to watch videos?02:06
ivan_well, yes, they are on xp02:06
districti got it installed using command  district bash filename.bin02:07
ivan_but the point is that the router works for them, and I don't have any DMZ's or conditional access setup for them02:07
ivan_my router is wide open02:07
ardchoilledistrict: What app is it? It may be in the repos02:07
districti don't know02:07
ardchoilleo.O02:07
ivan_ok, so w3m works, I can load www.google.com02:07
ivan_:)02:08
districtit installed02:08
ardchoilleivan_: Sounds like a konq problem, then02:08
ivan_that's what I'm thinking02:08
ardchoilledistrict: You don't know what app it is and you installed it?02:08
districtshowed icon for googleearth02:08
wiiivan_: im not saying your router have a problem im just saying when u try to conect to the net u must of change some option that u didnt had to touche.for me when i plug in my router for the first time it connected on time02:08
wiiivan_: try puting back everything to default02:08
ivan_yes, wii, some things work first time for some, but not for others. I already reset everything to default02:09
ivan_can I reinstall konq?02:09
districtit's under internet02:09
districtif that's what u mean02:09
ivan_yeah, I know where to run it02:09
ivan_but how can I access an uninstall function?02:09
DaSkreechenzo_: yes02:10
DaSkreechen02:10
enzo_DaSkreech: How?02:10
districti cliked the icon and it says     --- The desktop entry file /home/district/Desktop/Google-googleearth.desktop has no Type=... entry.02:11
DaSkreechenzo_: I watched the whole world cup from the command line02:11
DaSkreech aalib02:11
districtwhat's that mean?02:11
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DaSkreechdistrict: It's funky :)02:11
DaSkreechdistrict: did it ask you for a place to install?02:11
districtyes02:11
NickPrestaenzo_, http://www.oreilly.com/pub/h/444102:12
districti had it instaled in home/apps folder02:12
wiiwiiiiiiiiiii :D02:12
wiiwhit mii02:12
wiion wii02:12
districtbut there's lock symbol on that icon02:13
districtdo i unlock it to have it work?02:13
DaSkreechdistrict: really? you need to change it's permissons then02:13
ivan_I'm going to try firefox instead I think02:14
wiiwii will wiii will rock you02:14
wiirock u02:14
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ardchoillewii: That's becomging annoying02:14
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districthow do i change its permission Ddaskreetch?02:14
wiiardchoille: sowwiii :(02:14
lovrei dont get this. I isntalled Emerald, and now i have Emerald Theme Manager, where i can see themes, but i dont know how to apply them ...???????? Please help02:15
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ardchoillelovre: usually we refer people to #ubuntu-effects for compiz/beryl help02:15
lovreomw02:16
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DaSkreech!permissions02:16
ubotuThe files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux02:16
DaSkreechdistrict: ^^^02:16
wiilovre: keep looking where not here to hold your hand for ever02:16
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DaSkreechwii: did you ask in #beryl /02:16
DaSkreech?02:16
ivan_firefox works! :)02:16
ardchoilleivan_: it's gotta be a konq problem02:17
ivan_yeah, that's ok, I'll worry about it later I guess02:18
wiiDaSkreech: yes i told them when i had the same problem i was playing around with stuff and it started to work good.they told me there's my answer keep playing around with the stuff and it will come back good :/ les batard02:18
wii>_<02:18
DaSkreechHa ha :)02:18
DaSkreechWell I'm upgrading to gutsy02:18
ivan_I found firefox as part of add/remove when I went to remove konq02:18
ardchoilleivan_: firefox is much better, IMHO02:19
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ardchoillelol02:19
wiiDaSkreech: show mii some pics to see what gusty look like and if it better looking then feisty02:19
DaSkreechwii: Naw02:19
ivan_yeah02:20
ivan_what is the recommended msn messenger client?02:20
ardchoillewii: Pfft, looks can be changed very easily02:20
enzo_SWEET02:20
ardchoilleivan_: kopete ?02:20
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enzo_thank you DaSkreech and NickPresta02:20
wiiardchoille: i dont like to play with looks to much02:20
ivan_that's the only choice?02:20
NickPrestaenzo_, :) Just make sure you don't set the dimensions too high or else X will lock up (it does for me anyways)...02:21
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DaSkreechivan_: Any one you like02:21
DaSkreech !MSN02:21
ubotuInstant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.02:21
districtdaskreech, where should that file be in, under what folder? can u put it in home directory?02:21
DaSkreechthere is also amsn which tries to be MSN02:21
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DaSkreechdistrict: what should what be?02:21
districtis that why  it's locked?02:22
districtgoogleearth.bin file02:22
DaSkreechdistrict: yes you can put it anywhere you like. You just need rights to run it02:22
districtwhere should it be in?02:22
ardchoilledistrict: Did you install it with sudo?02:23
districti think i did02:23
ardchoilleThat's probably why it's locked02:23
districtthen it asked for folder to put it in02:23
ardchoilledistrict: Anything that is unpacked/installed with sudo will most likely use root's permissions.02:24
districtok, so how do i uninstall it then02:24
districtand then reinstall it back02:24
lovreardchoille: can everything in KDE apeareance be reset to defaults? i messed everything up :(02:24
DaSkreechdistrict: if you still have the .run file you can just delete the folder that it made02:25
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districti didn't get that02:25
ardchoillelovre: In kcontrol, there is a "Defaults" button at the bottom of most sections. That should revert to defaults.02:25
ardchoillelovre: But, maybe I can help you fix it without doing that. What did you do?02:26
lovreardchoille: little bit of everything.........02:26
districtdon't i have to delete other files also?02:26
ardchoillelovre: lol02:26
districtin i don't know /usr/ directory?02:26
lovreardchoille: i know, its stupid, but i was experimenting02:26
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ardchoillelovre: Ok, let's try a different way.. what do you *want* to do?02:27
nathan__I figured out how to fix the transparency issue02:27
lovreardchoille: and everything is wierd, the font, the icons...02:27
nathan__it runs smooth now =] ] 02:27
ardchoillenathan__: What did you do?02:27
nathan__first I took out the changes the walkthrough said to do02:27
ardchoillelovre: You should be able to change thos ethings in kcontrol to something you like better.02:27
districtwhat's in this /usr/ directory and /var/ directory anyway02:27
lovreardchoille: for starters, since i couldnt apply any theme to the end (only partially) i would like to set everything to original settings, like it was when i insttalled02:27
nathan__then I dpkg reconfigured so that xorg would redo the default config02:28
nathan__which I coulda skipped the first step02:28
nathan__but anyways02:28
wiiim going on a break my momy want me to wash the dishes02:28
wii:(02:28
ardchoillelovre: Try that Defaults button, other than that, there is no "default" set of themes. Just pick and chose what you want.02:28
nathan__then I downloaded the linux 64bit general nvidia driver02:28
nathan__then I told it to compile for my system instead of downloading02:28
nathan__now it is beatiful02:28
nathan__I'm guessing the other guy is using nv driver02:29
ardchoillenathan__: Glad you got it working02:29
DaSkreechwii: ok02:29
nathan__now I gotta figure out why I have no borders02:29
ardchoillenathan__: I don't think the nv driver can do that02:29
lovreardchoille: i have chosen default for everything. But icons are still small, and font is still toooo big.02:29
DaSkreechardchoille: Bye. Gutsy upgrade02:29
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lovrebut its set to default02:29
lovremaybe a restart02:29
lovreardchoille: ?02:29
nathan__ardchoille: can do what02:29
ardchoillelovre: So change the font size and the icons02:30
lovreardchoille: :D omw02:30
nathan__ardchoille: no i was talking about slow transparency not his font issues02:30
ardchoillenathan__: The nv driver is 2d only and I don't think it can do trans.02:30
nathan__oh yeah02:30
ardchoillelovre: That's the point of kcontrol, you can change mostly anything to mostly anything and not break anything.02:30
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nathan__any idea how to fix no borders02:31
wiiDaisuke_Ido: dont cry if everything goes wrong with gusty02:31
wiihhhh02:31
ardchoilleSorry, I've never had a problem with borders02:31
ardchoillenathan__: You have no window borders at all?02:31
district so many other files it installed - i don't know where and how many - daskreech how do i find them?02:31
nathan__ardchoille: actually now I do02:32
nathan__ardchoille: just noticed =] 02:32
ardchoillenathan__: ok02:32
nathan__thanks for all your help you are da boss02:32
lovreardchoille: thats nice. Its looking better now. Thank you02:32
nathan__I'll be nice to you in dota if you play it02:32
ardchoilleNah, you did it yourself :)02:32
ardchoillelovre: yw :)02:32
ardchoillelovre: There are more styles/icons/etc in the repos too :)02:33
lovrerepos?02:33
ardchoille!repos | lovre02:33
ubotulovre: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu02:33
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nathan__how do you know what apps are open if you remove the bottom bar?02:34
ardchoillenathan__: middle-click your desktop :)02:34
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lovreardchoille: i see, thank you once more. im in your depth (im not sure thats how you spell that word lol)02:34
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ardchoillelovre: debt02:35
districthey am i the only one here having trouble with install/uninstall?02:35
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ardchoillelovre: I love styles/themes. Let me know if I can help any further with them :)02:36
ardchoilledistrict: Hold on, I'm looking for some info on it..02:36
districtthanks02:36
lovreardchoille: i didnt have any luck with themes/styles today, i would like to use them, but i dont see it happen02:37
ardchoilledistrict: http://earth.google.com/support/bin/topic.py?topic=113502:37
chxhi. I have various small keyboard problems... first, I have five keys on my laptop that I remapped using xmodmap, however it does not load automatically from /etc/X11/Xmodmap . Also I want to use english and hungarian layouts and use scroll lock to switch between the two. i managed to put the keyboard switcher to the tray but not using scroll lock :( (i did succeed on another machine but can't remember the how) . Finally, I have num lock and scroll02:37
chxlock on the same key on my external keyboard (it's an IBM  TrackPoint USB keyboard) , i would like to map ctrl+scroll lock to numlock.02:37
ardchoillelovre: I can guide you through those if you have the time sometime02:37
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lovreardchoille: yea, that would be great, that is, if YOU have time :D02:38
districtthanks ardchoille02:38
NickPrestaCan you close packet garden after you start "capturing" packet data or do I need to leave the application open?02:38
lovreardchoille: you got MSN or ICQ or Skype or something?02:38
ardchoillelovre: I'm retired.. I have lots of time :)02:38
lovreardchoille: i promise i wont bother you... . much.....02:39
lovreardchoille: :D02:39
ardchoillelovre: Check your pm02:39
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lovreardchoille: i cant send private messages, i havent registered. The answer to your pm is: the first or the second, whatever02:40
ardchoillelovre: Try the pm again, I changed a setting in my nick02:40
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nazeehquick question: If i upgrade to the 7.10 beta now, will it upgrade to the final version when it's out with no issues?03:05
sonoftheclayryep03:06
nazeehlet me say hi first :)03:06
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sonoftheclayrProvided there aren't any major problems, but that is unlikely03:06
nazeehthat's what i am trying to figure out... should i expect any... i have 7.10 on my laptop and it looks pretty solid so far03:07
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sonoftheclayrWell the only thing I can think of that will go wrong is if a package has a problem upgrading or something like that but at this stage most of the packages are finalised so that shouldn't happen03:07
nazeehnice. Thank you helping :)03:08
sonoftheclayrnp03:08
sonoftheclayrIf you do have any problems remember to ask in #ubuntu+103:08
nazeehNice...didn't know about that channel03:09
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nazeehupgrade started...03:09
jhutchinsThis is what happens when you can put a Linux webserver on-line without ever reading a single doc file or having to look at that horrIfying command line: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/10/03/ebay_paypal_online_banking/03:10
LegaSo, I'm considering getting one of those 80gb Zunes when they come out... how well do you think the software (or lack there of) would bide in Linux?03:13
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LegaI mean, I don't know much about them- if they act like a big HD, then dumping .mp3s onto them would be a sinch. I suspect the software is needed, though.03:14
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ardchoille!info kbiff03:16
ubotukbiff: KDE mail notification utility. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.8.0-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 261 kB, installed size 1184 kB03:16
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MythbuntuGuest04hello03:19
MythbuntuGuest04anyone here?03:20
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nazeehLega: i don't think there is any linux support for the zune03:20
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NickPrestanazeeh, Lega, you might want to check out libmtp6 (the one with Feisty is quite old). It works with other MTP devices...03:21
LegaHmm, alright. Thanks. ^^03:21
LegaIf all else fails I'll just install the software uponz my VirtualBox of WinXP.03:22
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Juacom99can anyone plese help me with this error messaje03:25
Juacom99./psc: error while loading shared libraries: libCgGL.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory03:25
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Juacom99soulrider: you are uruguayan :|03:26
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soulrideryes03:27
Juacom99me too03:27
Juacom99:)03:28
soulrider:)03:28
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Juacom99did you recive my pm soulrider??03:29
soulridernope, you'll ahve to register03:30
Juacom99who so i do that and what's for :S03:30
Jucatoto be able to send PM's, you need to register your nick03:30
Jucato!register03:31
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration03:31
Juacom99what else i can do benn registred??03:31
hydrogeni can has register?03:32
soulriderhey Juacom9903:33
soulriderJucato *03:33
Jucatohi soulrider03:33
Juacom99i think is done03:33
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Juacom99 /msg NickServ HELP REGISTER>03:34
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Juacom99 /msg nickserv juacom9903:34
soulrideruhm03:34
Jucatohohumm...03:34
Juacom99:S03:34
Jucatobetter assist him soulrider03:34
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Juacom99i use konversation03:35
soulriderJuacom99: -> #ayuda03:35
Juacom99#ayuda03:35
Juacom99nop03:35
soulriderclick ahi :P03:36
soulriderJuacom99: hace click en #ayuda03:36
CreationistCan someone suggest a decent non-linear video editor?  Must support timeline and be easy to use.  I'm used to Ulead...03:37
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Jucatokino? kdenlive?03:37
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BluesKajavidemux ?03:38
CreationistJucato: Yeah, I've looked at those... terrible interfaces and poor features.  hmm...03:38
CreationistMaybe I should just try running Ulead with Wine03:38
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BluesKajtovid03:38
NickPrestaI haven't found anything that replaces Premier Pro or Final Cut so I know how you feel, Creationist03:40
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christian_hi03:41
NickPresta!hi | christian_03:41
ubotuchristian_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!03:41
christian_what program i need for unpacking archives wit extension .RAR03:41
christian_:/03:41
christian_please help me03:41
ardchoille!rar03:41
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free03:41
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jarrod_hey03:41
tobias!info unrar-free | christian_03:41
ubotuchristian_: unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB03:41
NickPresta!hi | jarrod_03:42
ubotujarrod_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!03:42
christian_sudo apt-get install unrar-free03:42
christian_?03:42
NickPrestachristian_, yep03:42
christian_thank u:D03:42
jarrod_anyone know of a verison of kubuntu that isn't preloaded with software?03:42
Creationistjarrod_: There isn't one.03:42
DragnslcrUh03:42
NickPrestajarrod_, I would assume the server install would have what you want. You can choose to install kubuntu-desktop, kde on it's own, or whatever else you like03:42
Creationistjarrod_: Although I hope at one point Ubuquity will allow package selection...03:43
jarrod_ubuquity?03:43
Creationistjarrod_: That's the installation program03:43
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CreationistUbiquity, actually ;)03:43
Jucatochristian_: you might find that some .rar files won't work with unrar-free, then you might want to install the plain unrar03:44
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soulrider!find libCgGL03:45
ubotuPackage/file libcggl does not exist in feisty03:45
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: hey... you there?03:46
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Jucatoit's a plugin for PS emulators. need to download that somewhere03:46
christian_xD03:47
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bazhanggreetings all03:47
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Juacom99!find libCgGL03:47
ubotuPackage/file libcggl does not exist in feisty03:47
Jucato<Jucato> it's a plugin for PS emulators. need to download that somewhere03:48
Juacom99the quiestion is where :S03:48
soulrider!bot > Juacom9903:48
Jucatothe internet?03:48
Juacom99i did03:49
Juacom99with no luck03:49
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Juacom99i google libcggl download03:50
Juacom99and i get no result :S03:50
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BluesKajyeah, nosrednaekim , I'm back03:57
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: yeah... that ATI driver thing doesn't like AMD64..03:57
BluesKajbummer03:58
nosrednaekimyeah...03:58
BluesKajyou running 64 bit gutsy03:59
DragnslcrBluesKaj- were the one that mentioned a while ago that you had bought a Dellbuntu?03:59
BluesKajno03:59
nosrednaekimDragnslcr: thats Daisuke_Laptop03:59
nosrednaekimor Daisuke_Ido03:59
DragnslcrAh, that's right03:59
DragnslcrYour names are so similar04:00
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nosrednaekim;)04:00
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: yeah... 64 bit gutsy... works really really well, my sound quality went through the roof... I think it actually qualifies as a HDA chipset now ;)04:00
DragnslcrOoh, I'll look forward to that04:01
BluesKajreally the realtek soundcard ?04:01
DragnslcrHopefully it's the Gutsy part and not the 64-bit part04:01
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: yeah04:02
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nosrednaekimDragnslcr: its the gutsy part/...04:02
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MythbuntuGuest04hello04:06
jarrod_okay, I have some noob business to take care of today. the layers of kubuntu are, correct me if I am at all wrong, kernal ( the "linux")- does the mounting and interanl magic, shell- BASh, X-org, controles the window manager, then finally KDE (or gnome) makes the magic?04:06
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jarrod_in that order?04:06
Tm_Tsort of that yes04:07
nosrednaekimjarrod_: more or less04:07
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MythbuntuGuest04hello04:08
ardchoillejarrod_: That's pretty good for a noob :)04:09
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jarrod_ardchoille thx -_-04:09
MythbuntuGuest04yea, that does soung good.. i do not know what it means04:09
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ardchoillelol04:10
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Tm_T!away > lovre`sleep04:11
ardchoillejarrod_: KDM (kde display manager) is in there between xorg and kde iirc.04:12
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MythbuntuGuest04is there a linux-mce chat room.. or can yall help me?04:14
MythbuntuGuest04i am tring to install linux mce04:14
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DragnslcrI don't buy it. If you even know that the word "kernel" refers to something other than popcorn, you aren't a noob04:14
Tm_T!mce04:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mce - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:14
Tm_Thmm04:14
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MythbuntuGuest04ubotu what is that?04:15
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Tm_TMythbuntuGuest04: ubotu is a bot04:15
kaneDoes anyone happen to know how to make a microphone not play whatever it picks up through the speakers?04:15
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Tm_Tintelikey: EEEK rooot!04:16
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kanelike how to turn the loopback off i think it is04:17
citrusflavordpoll: what is everyone using for irc?04:17
mneptokcitrusflavord: a laptop04:18
intelikeyfreenode.net04:18
intelikey:)04:18
citrusflavordlooks like we got some wisenhimers in here04:18
intelikeycitrusflavord all joking aside.  bx here mate04:18
intelikeycitrusflavord several   yes04:18
MythbuntuGuest04Tm_t how did i know to talk to me?04:18
mneptokintelikey: you should check out ankh.bx04:19
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mneptokintelikey: i *cannot* use bx without it04:19
citrusflavordIve had konversation crash twice today...04:19
Tm_TMythbuntuGuest04: because I commanded it04:19
intelikeymneptok it's for ?04:19
citrusflavordIm trying ksirc for now04:20
mneptokintelikey: sane text presentation. it makes bx ~648723165871236* more readable. :)04:20
mneptokintelikey: fetching URL ...04:20
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Tm_Tcitrusflavord: irssi here04:20
mneptokintelikey: http://www.holoweb.net/~liam/bx/04:20
intelikeymneptok hmmm ok.   nothing in that list that looks interesting to me   but i'll give it a look see  anyway04:21
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mneptokintelikey: downloads here - http://www.holoweb.net/~liam/ftp/ankh.bx/04:21
intelikeyk04:21
citrusflavordooo the client of the future irssi04:21
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mneptokintelikey: most reactions either fall into "cool, but not my cuppa" or "christ, how did i live without this?!"04:22
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intelikeyheh.  new one for the list.    oh docs.    i dont read docs  :)04:23
=== usser how did i live without yakuake
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DaSkreech!adeptcrashfix04:26
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 04:26
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DaSkreechusser: poorly04:27
usserDaSkreech: this cant be called living04:28
MythbuntuGuest04why is my kubuntu downloading so slow?04:29
DaSkreechnet sucks?04:29
MythbuntuGuest04it it like 44kps on my windows lap top i get over 300kps04:29
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intelikeybecause of a bandwidth limit some place04:29
impwhere this place04:29
DaSkreechThis is the internet04:30
impoo ic04:30
DaSkreechWe greet you in peace!04:30
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impwho can i install beryl04:30
DaSkreechSir Imp We are friends with your cousin the daemon!04:30
citrusflavordhalp i keep getting "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executable" during ./confifure04:30
MythbuntuGuest04can i download it with my windows laptop and copy it to my kubuntu04:31
impdashreech..where r u from04:31
impyes..u can download it04:32
DaSkreechMythbuntuGuest04: What are you getting?04:32
DaSkreechimp: from 56k Modem land04:32
MythbuntuGuest04linux iso04:32
DaSkreech!beryl04:33
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects04:33
DaSkreechMythbuntuGuest04: Sure no problem04:33
Search4Lancerapparently the last time I took out my CompactFlash card, not all went well. Thunar thinks it's still in there, but when I insert it, nothing changes. It's not listed in /media, and Thunar claims "/dev/sdb1 is already mounted or /media/EOS_DIGITAL is busy" - however, there is no /media/EOS_DIGITAL, and neither is listed in mtab or fstab as being mounted (or at all) - solution? Preferably without rebooting or logging out,04:33
Search4Lancerdue to other reasons?04:33
DaSkreech!iso04:33
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.04:33
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MythbuntuGuest04do i use windows explorer?04:34
hydrogenI wouldn't04:34
MythbuntuGuest04how do i see my files?04:34
hydrogenbut its up to you04:34
hdevalenceWould I be correct in assuming that I can't change a 32-bit to a 64-bit install without reinstalling the OS?04:34
MythbuntuGuest04do is use konquorer?04:35
hdevalenceMythbuntuGuest04: YEs04:35
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Search4LancerMythbuntuGuest04: Yes, you need to mount your Windows partition, which is read-only from Linux. There are walkthroughs to do so online04:35
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MythbuntuGuest04even though it is on another computer?04:36
Search4LancerIt would've helped to know that information first04:36
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_2burn to cd04:36
MythbuntuGuest04ok04:36
Search4Lanceranyway, anyone have the slightest idea as to my mount problem?04:37
_2Search4Lancer what it is ?04:37
citrusflavordIm starting to think trying kde 7.10 was a bad decision w/o much linux skillness04:37
impplz..help me..i use kubuntu today..can u all teach for me04:37
DaSkreechcitrusflavord: What?04:37
DaSkreechI missed KDE 4,5,6 totally?04:37
NickPrestacitrusflavord, where did you get KDE 7.10? Time machine? :)04:37
citrusflavordIm starting to think trying kubuntu 7.10 was a bad decision w/o much linux skillness04:37
DaSkreechdamn I knew I shouldn't have over slept04:38
DaSkreech:-(04:38
NickPrestaDaSkreech, heh04:38
BluesKajSearch4Lancer, actually windows can be read-write from linux with ntfs-config installed04:38
citrusflavordcerally....gus04:38
DaSkreechcitrusflavord: Did you read the first line in #ubuntu+1 ?04:38
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Search4LancerBluesKaj, was unaware, thanks for the info04:38
DaSkreechcitrusflavord: what did you break?04:39
DaSkreech!ntfs3g04:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ntfs3g - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:39
DaSkreech!ntfs-3g04:39
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions04:39
BluesKaj!ntfs-config04:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ntfs-config - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:39
DaSkreech:-)04:39
DaSkreech!ntfs04:39
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse04:39
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BluesKaj!info ntfs-config04:40
ubotuntfs-config: Enable/disable write support for any NTFS devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.5-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 41 kB, installed size 432 kB04:40
_2Search4Lancer close thunar issue sudo umount /dev/sd*   restart thunar   ?04:40
Search4Lancer_2, exactly as you typed, with the wildcard, or no?04:40
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_2with *04:40
DaSkreechHi blessedBeef04:41
_2and don't worry about it dismounting / or /home  it wont.04:41
citrusflavord*** You must have either have gettext support in your C library, or use the04:41
citrusflavord*** GNU gettext library. (http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/gettext.html04:41
holycowevenin04:41
citrusflavordwhat does that mean?04:42
DaSkreechcitrusflavord: install gettext04:42
citrusflavordokay :D04:42
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citrusflavordim so confused right now i dont even remember what I am compiling04:43
_2hope it wasn't gettext04:43
DaSkreechha ha04:44
DaSkreechcitrusflavord: Why are you compiling ?04:44
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Search4Lancer_2: umount: /dev/sdb1: not mounted04:44
citrusflavordif i remember it started when i wanted iriss04:44
_2here in #*buntu   we don't ask "what are you compiling?"  we simply ask "why?"04:45
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Search4Lancernot really sure why Thunar even thinks it exists anymore anyway if it's not listed in mtab or fstab04:45
_2iriss ?      not irssi ?04:45
pillowpantsntfs-config is what ive been lacking04:45
pillowpantsthanks whoever asked04:45
pillowpantsntfs-3g doesnt do anything04:45
citrusflavord_2 yea the second one04:45
DaSkreech!info irssi04:46
ubotuirssi: terminal based IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.10-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1010 kB, installed size 2788 kB04:46
holycow_2: *hear* *hear* brother04:46
DaSkreechYou can install it from the  repos04:46
pillowpantsbitchx is better04:46
_2Search4Lancer that's why i had you close thunar,   so when you reopened it did it still have that "glitch" ?04:46
Search4Lanceryeppers04:46
citrusflavordoh i found out i was compiling glib04:46
_2glib ???04:46
_2eeek04:46
Search4Lancerhang on, lemme try killing Thunar, since apparently it doesn't die when you close the window04:46
NickPrestaSearch4Lancer, sounds like a feature ;)04:47
_2yeap04:47
citrusflavord_2 hey, what glib btw04:47
_2like konqueror    doesn't die when you close it either i think04:47
Search4Lancerokay, killed Thunar, opened back up, still shows EOS_DIGITAL in the tree, but now the error it gives when trying to mount is "mount: No medium found"04:48
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Search4Lancersuccess!04:48
_2!info glibc-doc04:49
ubotuglibc-doc: GNU C Library: Documentation. In component main, is optional. Version 2.5-0ubuntu14 (feisty), package size 3333 kB, installed size 8744 kB04:49
Search4Lancerthanks _204:49
_2Search4Lancer np.04:49
kevin06bonjour04:49
Search4Lancerhar har... I can get to the pics of my kitty cat that I took today now.... :-D04:49
_2citrusflavord the ubuntu == is libc604:49
_2!info libc604:49
ubotulibc6: GNU C Library: Shared libraries. In component main, is required. Version 2.5-0ubuntu14 (feisty), package size 4003 kB, installed size 9976 kB04:49
citrusflavord_2 all this stuff makes me feel way behind04:51
_2all i have to say about glib / libc6 is simply   "mess that up and system go down like curd in churn"04:52
citrusflavordi feel like I skipped quatum mechanics class and came back on test day04:52
DaSkreechcitrusflavord: you shouldn't be compiling something you can install in seconds :)04:52
DaSkreech_2: I know it's the overlooked 4th engine04:53
_2that is installed04:53
citrusflavordi was trying to learn bout stuffs D:04:53
NickPrestacitrusflavord, there are other things you can compile which aren't in the repos :)04:53
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_2that's a good way to learn actually.      the try it and reformat methood has taught many an invaluable lesson.04:54
andycrI remember compiling glib back when I ran gentoo04:55
andycrI also remember having to recompile about 200 other packages because of it04:55
andycr:/04:55
citrusflavordNickPresta: yea I had a friend show me also that new verison will have to be compiled ( then he did it for me and I dont know how)04:55
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andycrmore or less all of gnome04:55
_2if you don't understant that saying    just try this and you will have hands on experance,   sudo rm -r /var04:55
andycrwhen i was running gnome04:55
andycrnot sure how much of kde04:55
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_2i hope no one here that ignorant.04:56
CreationistSo I can no longer start Amarok... it just says "Amarok is taking a long time to load.  Perhaps something went wrong?"  No error messages...04:56
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citrusflavordsudo rm -rf /var why not?04:56
CreationistIt worked great a couple hours ago.04:56
_2-f not needed04:56
DaSkreechcitrusflavord: Why not indeed? Hope you have an install CD nearby04:56
citrusflavord_2 i like F it make me feel strong04:56
_2it's default in debian rm04:57
citrusflavordthe install CD is in the drive right now :D04:57
DaSkreech_2: what's rm -fi do ?04:57
DaSkreechCreationist: installed anything?04:57
citrusflavordanyone here have a job at all related to computer or even linux?04:58
_2-fi ?   force + interactive   one will surely negate the othere DaSkreech04:58
CreationistDaSkreech: Just a couple of stupid games... but they've been removed since04:58
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holycowi do04:58
_2holycow i now pronounce you married04:59
holycowheh04:59
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citrusflavordme and KDE have a very open (source) relationship04:59
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holycowlol05:00
holycowwho knew open source was kinky?05:00
holycowso05:01
holycowhow about them yankees?05:01
holycow....05:01
hydrogenthey are going to lose05:01
hydrogenobviously05:01
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hydrogennext question?05:01
holycowheh05:01
DaSkreechThe Iraq war?05:01
holycowwhat is the meaning of 42?05:02
citrusflavordit rained today: guess where i live05:02
holycowcitrusflavord: vancouver?05:02
hydrogenhow about a novel idea05:02
hydrogen!topic05:02
ubotuPlease read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic05:02
citrusflavord...holyshit05:02
hydrogen!offtopic05:02
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!05:02
hydrogen!oneofthose05:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about oneofthose - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:02
DaSkreech!ohmy | citrusflavord05:02
ubotucitrusflavord: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.05:02
citrusflavordsorry05:03
holycowdid i get it right?05:03
citrusflavordyes05:03
_2well your ip is mn    that might be a clue05:03
holycowlol!05:03
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citrusflavordnot bc, but still05:03
DaSkreechMonte Negro?05:03
holycowah washington, meant bc05:03
holycowhow weird :)05:03
citrusflavordanyone here played with copiz fusion?05:04
_2and let me guess your login name is jarrod ?05:05
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citrusflavord_2 why?05:05
DaSkreechooh oooh guess mine!05:05
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_2DaSkreech heh05:05
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bazhanggreetings all! Does anyone know how to add mp3 ripping capability to Amarok? I already can play mp3s, but for some reason cannot encode CDs in that format.05:09
lovrehi all05:09
bazhangsorry to K3b05:09
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DaSkreechbazhang: Umm lame might help05:10
lovrei have a question about SuperKamba.I installed it and chose some themes, clicked add to Desktop.... and nothing happens. Nothing. Why is this?05:10
stdinbazhang: to rip mp3s in k3b just install "libk3b2-mp3" (and restart k3b if you have it open)05:10
bazhangDaSkreech: thanks! but isn't that added with listening?05:11
citrusflavordIs it at all strang to have KDE freeup and not even have ctrl-altbackspace restart it...?05:11
DaSkreechstdin: he said amarok05:11
bazhangstdin: thanks!05:11
lovresuperKaramba that is05:11
citrusflavordfreeze up*05:11
bazhangDaSkreech: Imeant K3b05:11
bazhangsorry.05:11
stdinDaSkreech: "[04:09]   <bazhang> sorry to K3b"05:11
DaSkreechcitrusflavord: can you move the mouse?05:11
DaSkreechAhhh05:11
_2DaSkreech he corrected also.05:11
DaSkreechdidn't get that05:11
citrusflavordDaSkreech: yes05:11
DaSkreechI thought he was saying that he was sorry for k3b05:12
citrusflavordDaSkreech: I could, I hard reset it tho.05:12
DaSkreechcitrusflavord: Yeah it's an annoying keyboard bug. Just use the mouse to logout05:12
_2stdin are you always getting corrected when you are right ?05:12
DaSkreechThe keyboard will magically come back05:12
citrusflavordDaSkreech: MAGIC?!!?105:12
stdin_2: seems like it :p05:13
DaSkreechvery much so05:13
_2stdin maybe you sould be stderr  ?05:13
DaSkreechha ha05:13
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citrusflavord_2 you run irc as root?05:13
stdinnah, std_you're_wrong_and_i'm_right05:13
_2:)05:13
_2citrusflavord nope.05:14
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_2not unless root's uid has changed to 11  :)05:14
citrusflavord_2 your whois says root...05:14
_2i know,  i told it to05:15
stdinthat can be faked, sometimes he's UN-root :)05:15
_2also not_root05:15
stdinand really_root_but_#debian_won't_let_me_in05:15
_2lol05:15
DaSkreechYeah that bit me last week05:16
christian_some body knows05:16
christian_program05:16
christian_to download music05:16
stdin!enter05:16
ubotuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!05:16
christian_p2p program or something?05:16
DaSkreechlike an idiot i started irc as root and couldn't get into #debian and couldn't figure it out05:16
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stdin!p2p | don't use for illegal activities05:16
ubotudon't use for illegal activities: Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.05:16
DaSkreech!p2p05:16
DaSkreechdamn05:16
citrusflavordhow much lurk is required to learn large amounts here?05:17
ardchoillestdin: Several of us gave that !enter to christian_ the past two days be he doesn't listen05:17
christian_:/05:17
citrusflavordchristian wwjd05:17
citrusflavordthink about it...05:17
stdinwell, he'll start listening now or will see what chanserv.py can do ;)05:17
christian_wwjd ?05:17
ardchoillestdin: hehe05:17
FearMothhi, does kubuntu 7.10 install compiz fusion and set it up automatically?05:17
_2citrusflavord you could lurk here for ever and not teach us one stinking thing....  :)05:18
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citrusflavordwhat would jesus do.... c'mon meow05:18
DaSkreechcitrusflavord: depends on how much you listen and interject with your own questions05:18
citrusflavord_2 not to teach, no learn05:18
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DaSkreechcitrusflavord: and large is largely relative :)05:19
stdinFearMoth: ask in #ubuntu+!05:19
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citrusflavordDaSkreech: are u calling my mom fat?05:19
stdin!u05:19
ubotuUnless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..05:19
JucatoFearMoth: in Kubuntu? no05:19
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_2citrusflavord serously,  though.    you can pickup some things pretty quick in here.   like how to be a pita as they say.    like me.   or how to call the bot.   but if you really want to learn ask about things that interest you.05:20
citrusflavordc'mon meow ur realy growking my tubes05:20
Jucatostdin: yu ar funy :)05:20
stdinJucato: maybe next year ey?05:20
DaSkreechcitrusflavord: follow the links that ubotu spits out if it relates to you or not05:20
stdinJucato: u r 2 :)05:20
Jucatostdin: when/if compiz decides to improve their KDE integration05:20
DaSkreechbecuz ne1 knos y05:20
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DaSkreechstdin: Why?05:21
vixyfoxHey everyone, I was looking over the KUbuntu info, but I'm a bit concerned. I uninstalled Ubuntu, because it didn't support certain hardware of mine... is KUbuntu the same way? Or might it support things Ubuntu doesn't?05:21
DaSkreechNext year makes no sense05:21
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DaSkreechvixyfox: Roughly the same05:21
JucatoI think he meant kwin composite in KDE405:21
DaSkreechvixyfox: What hardware?05:21
stdinDaSkreech: next year as in, maybe 8.04 or 8.1005:21
citrusflavord!lynx05:21
ubotuBrowsers available for Linux: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), Opera (Qt, proprietary)  -  HTTP servers: apache205:21
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vixyfoxDaSkreech: Mainly my sound card. I have a Soundblaster X-FI Xtreme Adio card. Ubuntu didn't like it at all05:22
stdinor 8.06 if it's the same as dapper05:22
DaSkreechstdin: 8.04 makes no sense cause we are almost assured of shipping KDe4 in 8.10 which has native compositing support05:22
DaSkreech>-<05:22
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DaSkreechvixyfox: That's really really a Creative issue05:22
stdinDaSkreech: yeah, but you can have more than one compositing manager. (and kwin composite does rocK)05:22
DaSkreechAnd a very sore point for linux audiophiles05:22
vixyfoxDaSkreech: So really... I'm screwed with it aren't I?05:23
DaSkreech!info libaqbanking1605:23
ubotulibaqbanking16: library for online banking applications. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.3-3 (feisty), package size 240 kB, installed size 876 kB05:23
DaSkreechhmm05:23
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DaSkreech!info libgwenhywfar3805:23
ubotulibgwenhywfar38: OS abstraction layer. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4.0-1 (feisty), package size 453 kB, installed size 1372 kB05:23
_2vixyfox i heared that there was a 64 bit driver out for testing...   haven't verified that report tho05:24
citrusflavordamarok, for me is the greatest app, and the reason I want to learn about KDE05:24
vixyfox_2: I read about that, heard that it's something they had worked on a long time ago but the problem is that it's poorly coded and really doesn't work05:25
_2k then you are already ahead of me.  i'll stop.05:25
citrusflavordI need a table top ubot referance guide to keep up with you guys05:26
_2!bot05:27
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots05:27
vixyfox_2: Thanks though05:27
_2np05:27
_2citrusflavord !i. /me is quite easy to keep up with.05:29
citrusflavord_2 im pretty slow05:29
_2i understand "almost" every thing i say.05:29
citrusflavord_2 how long have you been usig linx?05:30
citrusflavordlinux*05:30
_2oh  i don't really know.    maybe 8 years now.05:30
citrusflavordjust for the lulz then ?05:30
_2?05:31
bazhangthanks all! couldn't get K3b to rip to mp3, so just went with OGG. very fast!05:31
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citrusflavord... not your career i assume05:31
_2citrusflavord not exactly05:31
citrusflavordi meant to say " is it your hobby"05:32
_2not exactly05:32
citrusflavorddo you have a job?05:32
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christian_how can install05:32
christian_Ubuntu 6.10 with XGL & Kiba-Dock05:32
christian_?05:32
_2yeah.  and i really can't go into a lot of detail on that point.     i work for the people05:32
citrusflavordwwjd05:32
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citrusflavordemalual goldstein?05:33
holycowchristian_: well, you install ubuntu, then you install beryl, then you install kiba-dock05:33
holycow!beryl05:33
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects05:33
citrusflavordbrb have to look up the spelling05:33
citrusflavord_2 emanuel goldstein?05:34
_2goldstein ?    no.05:34
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christian_holycow:05:35
christian_yes iam running05:35
christian_ubuntu05:35
christian_but i want05:35
citrusflavord_2 your vagueness leads me on a magicall mind adventure that make me think you are some sort of secert spy ( maybe for mother russia)05:35
christian_xgl and kiba dock05:35
christian_how can install05:35
christian_?05:35
citrusflavord!wwjd05:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wwjd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:36
holycowi told you05:36
holycowinstall beryl05:36
holycowgo into #ubuntu-effects and look at the topic info is there05:36
holycowor whatever beryl is called now05:36
holycowthen install kiba-dock05:36
_2citrusflavord i guess one never knows these days.   this is IRC where men are men, and women are men,  and children are FBI agents...05:36
holycowit should all be in the repos05:37
_2no offence children05:37
holycowchristian_: what i am getting at is you won't haveto compile anything, you just need to find the reopos that contain the packages05:37
holycowand just install them05:37
citrusflavordwhats the age limit for children?05:37
christian_okay05:38
christian_tahnk u05:38
_2idk.  ask him   heh.05:38
_2-:- children [n=children@195.161.25.17]  has joined #kubuntu05:38
_2in case you missed that.  :)05:39
ardchoille_2: I have turned those off because I *want* to miss them. No need for you pasting them back.05:39
holycowchristian_: yeah it doesn't sound helpfull but that actually is how you go about finding how to install that stuff :)05:39
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citrusflavord_2 do you have a website?05:41
_2citrusflavord no.05:41
_2ardchoille i'll remember to not post them to you   k05:42
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DaSkreechubuntu+105:46
citrusflavord+2 time infinity05:46
citrusflavordtimes*05:46
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_2_2 infinity05:47
citrusflavorddivided by zero05:47
_2!05:47
DaSkreechAnd beyond!05:47
Dr_willis+good ++good05:47
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citrusflavordkonversation | firefox > crazy.txt05:48
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citrusflavordmy bash skills are limited to my imagenation05:48
DaSkreech!commands | citrusflavord05:48
ubotucitrusflavord: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal05:48
citrusflavorddoes the pipeline symbol direct it to a user - cuz thats cute as kittens05:49
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_2yep05:49
_2!help > citrusflavord05:50
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dsmith_hi05:50
dsmith_I have a brand new Panasonic cf-52 thats giving me problems, xorg is not starting05:50
citrusflavordwow that opens a tab on the top view05:50
DaSkreechvixyfox: How are you?05:50
dsmith_vesa, fglrx drivers don;t seem to work05:50
dsmith_treied intel as well just sets and hangs05:50
holycowyeah, ati is terrible05:50
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dsmith_machine has a integrated intel chip05:51
holycowoh why are you installing ati accelerated drivers on intel chipset?05:51
holycowthere is i810 of course you can try but ther eis also a new intel driver for intel chipsets05:51
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citrusflavordthe freewheelin' bob dylan is probally his best album -- just throwing that out there05:51
holycowlet me see if i can find the name of the package for you05:52
ardchoille!ot | citrusflavord05:52
ubotucitrusflavord: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!05:52
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holycowxserver-xorg-video-intel05:52
dsmith_hmmmm fglrs are ati? didn't realize thaty05:52
dsmith_ooops05:52
dsmith_holycow tried that already05:52
holycowthat is the new intel driver that replaces i810 for all newer intel chipsets05:52
dsmith_let me try this again05:52
ivan_has anyone installed msttcorefonts?05:52
dsmith_i have why05:53
holycowno, they are horrible ugly fonts05:53
dsmith_lol05:53
holycowno one should ever install that EVER05:53
holycow:)05:53
ivan_lol, there's a lot of fonts in that package05:53
dsmith_i have vista fonts on my machine05:53
dsmith_:P05:53
ivan_all of them can't be bad05:53
holycowdsmith_: when you installed you got at least vesa support right? vesa broke after you were mucking about?05:53
dsmith_yea05:53
dsmith_vesa is default05:53
holycowdsmith_: bless you, i presume you will remove them and NEVER again do something so silly05:54
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dsmith_but x woould not start05:54
dsmith_lmfao05:54
dsmith_I like silly fonts :P05:54
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ivan_can anyone help me install msttcorefonts?05:54
holycowactually i'm joking, but linux actually has more beautiful fonts natively05:54
dsmith_actually I was just trying them out and havenot botherd to remove them05:54
dsmith_:P05:54
holycowtake some time to get your aclimatized to them, windows will look horrible in compariosn05:55
dsmith_sorry for my transgressions05:55
holycow!msttcorefonts05:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about msttcorefonts - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:55
citrusflavord!kernal05:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kernal - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:55
DaSkreech!info ioctl05:55
holycowivan_: just google it05:55
ubotuPackage ioctl does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas05:55
dsmith_!fonts05:55
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer05:55
holycowah there you go05:55
ivan_I did, I got a .deb with all the fonts05:55
ivan_but I'm not sure how to install it now05:55
citrusflavord!kernel05:55
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild05:55
holycowso double clikc and install05:55
holycownot that hard :)05:56
ivan_nothing happens when I double click05:56
dsmith_holycow: x just gives me a blank screen05:56
dsmith_:(05:56
ivan_do I need gdebi?05:56
holycowivan_: yep05:56
ivan_how can I get that?05:56
holycowopen up a terminal and do sudo apt-get install gdebi05:56
ivan_ok, that's what I thought05:56
DaSkreechivan_: Right click you will see an install package entry05:56
holycowyou can install that .deb via terminal but you should have gdebi anyway05:56
ivan_I tried that once, package not found05:57
dsmith_sudo fix laptop now05:57
_2isn't that  sudo loptop --fix now05:57
holycowdsmith_: so a plain install wont give you x?05:57
holycoweven with vesa drivers?05:57
citrusflavordloptop?05:57
charlie5hi all ... i've installed a new nvidia geforce card and am having problems getting the nvidia and glx modules working ... i've tried both glx and glx-new ... also tried the latest drivers from nvidia, but with not success05:57
citrusflavordsounds fun05:57
stdingdebi is in gutsy, before gutsy you just right-click  > Kubuntu Installer > Install05:57
_2citrusflavord was a joke.05:58
dsmith_no, I can see X trying to start but fail many times05:58
holycowstdin: gdebi is in dapper too05:58
DaSkreechivan_: right click on the deb doesn't give a install package option?05:58
citrusflavord_2 i ruin everything D:05:58
holycowit may not be installed by default in kubuntu but they should have that tho05:58
stdinholycow: yeah, but the Qt/KDE fronted is installed by default in gutsy, but not in previous versions05:58
holycowohhh right forgot *doh!*05:58
stdingdebi-kde05:59
holycowyou are right *nod*05:59
_2charlie5 that is a question05:59
holycowi'm so de agnostic at this point i freely mix and match apps :)05:59
holycownot always good advice tho05:59
dsmith_x fails completely to a blank screen06:00
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holycowdsmith_: gutsy or feisty?06:00
dsmith_fiesty06:00
citrusflavord!xorg | citrusflavord06:00
holycowwell its clearly a driver issue ... there really isn't anythin else thats obvious tha tyou can try, you tried eveyrhing including the wrong drivers06:00
_2dsmith_ 32/64 bit ?06:00
dsmith_3206:01
DaSkreech!info evms06:01
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holycowthe road from here is digging into the logs and tracking down the error and maybe posting to malone a bug?06:01
ubotuevms: Enterprise Volume Management System (core). In component main, is optional. Version 2.5.5-18ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 85 kB, installed size 320 kB06:01
holycowor looking up if someone with the same laptop/chipset has the same issue?06:01
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_2!msg | citrusflavord you can use PM...06:02
ubotucitrusflavord you can use PM...: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.06:02
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_2!msgthebot | citrusflavord you can use PM...06:02
ubotucitrusflavord you can use PM...: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...06:02
citrusflavord_2 would you describ xorg as software? my understanding is that, from what ubot said, its sortof a bus of desktop/visuals.06:03
holycowno06:04
holycowxorg is software06:04
holycowits a server/client architecture06:04
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holycowit's natively network aware06:04
citrusflavord_2 who did I pm?...ubot?06:04
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_2xorg is the "software" the produces the Xwindow   which the desktop enviornments then use to display their "windows" in.06:04
dsmith_if x fails can't I just drop into the cmd line?06:04
holycowyes of course06:05
dsmith_for some reason it stays at a blank screen06:05
holycowctrl/alt/f106:05
dsmith_alt-f206:05
dsmith_that wont work either06:05
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citrusflavordalso its my understanding the ctrl-alt-backspace is a unsafe way to shutdown xorg, that true?06:05
holycowalt-f3?06:06
holycowcitrusflavord: no06:06
dsmith_perhaps I should reinstall againothing06:06
holycowdsmith_: i think so06:06
DaSkreechholycow: It isn't?06:06
holycowi don't think your x is crashing06:06
holycowi think your kernel is oopsing on a driver during boot06:06
stdincitrusflavord: it's not "unsafe" but it is dirty06:06
charlie5_2: i guess i was wondering if anyone else has had similar experience06:06
DaSkreechcitrusflavord: unsafe as in your docuemtns sessions etc will not be saved06:06
dsmith_holycow: ok06:06
holycowif you cant drop to a console its a much more serious issue, reinstall yes06:06
holycowDaSkreech: its not unsafe ... for various levels of safe.  One presumes they are saving on a regular basis but technically this isn't windows06:07
citrusflavordstdin: could it ever prevent some programs from running at intended on the next startup?06:07
_2dsmith_ what you have described is a gub.  it's also a known issue with some hardware.   the "fbcon" module that facilitates "usplash" doesn't relenquish the display as it should.    if you disable "fbcon"  you can probably get xorg working and the console will also be viewable.06:07
holycowyou don't have your setting screwed up by doing something like that06:07
holycowonly on windows you bork a system doing that06:07
DaSkreechcitrusflavord: No06:07
_2is a gub/is a bug     i'm lysdexic it seems.06:07
DaSkreechcitrusflavord: it's dirty as mentioned but not unsafe06:07
dsmith__2: I cannot get to the cmd line06:08
gibCan someone point me to a cheap pci wifi card with good native wpa2 support (not via a wrapper over the windows driver).06:08
stdincitrusflavord: no, it just leaves old links/sockets around06:08
holycow_2: interesting, first time i've heard of that06:08
citrusflavordDaSkreech: I don't understand "dirty" what do you mean by that. messy logs?06:08
DaSkreechok reboot again06:08
dsmith__2: what you described seems to be it06:08
DaSkreechcitrusflavord: it gives no warning to anything but itself that it is going down06:08
dsmith_1/3 of the boot splash then it hangs kinda after starting a bunch of services06:09
DaSkreechcitrusflavord: X is safe but your other programs have no way of doing a safe shutdown and check06:09
DaSkreech so documents don't get saved. Open dialog boxes can't prompt to see if this is what you really want06:09
_2yeah it's it.     dsmith_  i'm not sure the "grub" way to get around it.    i think it's    vga=0x0f05 nosplash      but i'm not sure.06:09
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citrusflavordDaSkreech: so current data in a program like firefox could be confused?06:10
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gibCan someone point me to a cheap pci wifi card with good native wpa2 support (not via a wrapper over the windows driver).06:10
holycow_2: lol dude superb tech supporting there :)06:10
DaSkreechcitrusflavord: wouldn't have time to06:10
dsmith_I've had that on two toughbooks, cf-52 and cf-51 series06:10
gibOops, sorry, repeated by accident.  :)06:10
_2holycow feel free to superceed me  :)06:11
_2gib there is a "supported" hardware page.06:11
_2!hardware06:11
ubotuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport06:11
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_2dsmith_ you can check the bug reports on that issue   and add to it your own info.06:13
_2!bug06:13
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots06:13
dsmith_once I figure out the entire issue I will send the information to someone to upload it06:13
dsmith_toughbooks are a popular laptop06:13
holycowor just wait and in the next upgrade the issue dissapears06:13
holycowlol06:13
dsmith_lol06:14
holycowthats typically what happens on debian based distros06:14
citrusflavordany software out that activly supports the iphone? as a alternative to itunes?06:14
_2holycow we would only hope.06:14
holycowbut yes, a good well written detailed bug report will always help06:14
holycowyou should do that06:14
holycowif you can hire someone to fix it06:14
holycowi do that sometimes06:14
dsmith_haha hire06:14
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dsmith_I renamed my wirelss SSID kubuntu today06:15
dsmith_lol06:15
_2even poor code monkies need work.06:15
dsmith_guess what the passwod is...06:15
_2save the code monkeys06:15
holycowhiring codemonkeys is good06:16
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holycowyou usually get some great results and it fixes a problem sooner than later06:16
dsmith_...password is kubuntu106:16
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dsmith_too easy huh06:16
_2password is password06:17
_2name is name06:17
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holycowdsmith_: excellent06:17
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_2to generic maybe06:17
holycowi hope your ssh is on06:17
tzangerdoes kubuntu not use udev?  I see udev mounted, but I don't see /sbin/hotplug06:17
holycowwould you like to install something for you?06:17
holycowhow about i make / dissapear?06:17
caesar_how do I make kubuntu mount my drives automatically on startup?06:17
dsmith_edit fstab06:18
caesar_how?06:18
_2tzanger it uses udev by default.06:18
citrusflavord!fstab06:18
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions06:18
tzanger_2: my understanding is that the kernel calls /sbin/hotplug whenever devices are added/removed, but I do not see /sbin/hotplug in my system06:18
_2holycow errr ummm   cat /dev/zero > /dev/hda   and hit the power button ???06:18
stdintzanger: no, hal/udev/dbus all take care of that06:19
tzangerhmm do you know where I might find information on that now?  all the udev stuff google is returning talks about /sbin/hotplug06:19
holycow_2 lol :)06:20
_2tzanger sounds like the fedora way to me.06:20
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_2holycow it does work ya know  :)06:21
stdintzanger: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev.html is probably the best place06:22
ivan_I have just installed msttfonts, how can I go about choosing the fonts now? they don't seem to show up in the font lists when I got to change appearance06:22
tzangerthat's what I just read06:22
tzangeror at least the OLS paper referenced there06:22
stdintzanger: some info there is out dated06:22
holycow_2 never occured to me but yeah that looks like something to try :)06:22
tzangerall the info there seems outdated :-)06:23
dsmith_well in talking to our CFO today he agrees we wil not transition to vista06:23
_2holycow if you ever need to blank an hd  that's a good way.06:23
stdintzanger: the people in #ubuntu-kernel know more about it than I do, ask there06:23
LynoureIs there something like the command  'top' but for io?06:23
tzangerstdin: okay, thanks06:23
dsmith_I recommended windows server for like 8 ppl06:23
ivan_I regenerated the font cache by doing fc-cache -fv06:23
_2Lynoure execelant Q   now if anyone can answer it for us...06:24
holycow_2 i was just thinking that actually06:24
_2holycow it can be slow on large drives.06:25
dsmith_ubuntu, ..... gnomes.... hmmmphh06:25
_2Jucato ?  <Lynoure> Is there something like the command  'top' but for io?06:25
holycow_2 well there is no other way to really zero one out but write out every single byte06:25
_2stdin ?06:25
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_2holycow indeed06:26
holycow_2 we don't really zero out drives at work any more, we just get them destroyed while visually inspecting the process06:26
caesar_what device are jump drives, typically?06:26
caesar_ /dev/sd0?06:26
_2probably sd[a-z] 06:27
stdin_2: I have no idea :)06:27
_2i'm assuming they show up on the scsi bus06:27
_2stdin yeah Lynoure asked the best question of the day.06:27
holycowwell06:28
holycowio of what?06:28
caesar__2: what's that?06:28
_2all io i would assume06:28
holycoweth1 maybe?06:28
holycowthats a lot of io06:28
_2caesar_  <Lynoure> Is there something like the command  'top' but for io?06:28
Lynoureholycow: disk io would do :)06:28
holycowsure but you know disk io, ram io, cpu io, eth io, bluetooth io ... and on and on :)06:28
_2yes and if it was a command like "top for io" then we would assume it metered all io   no?06:29
holycowit is a good qeustion, but getting meaningfull measuerments would be key06:29
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holycowyou right it is a good question, i've never heard of that before :)06:31
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_2that could monitor below the process level,   very useful in some applications.     now i'm wanting to find something that can do that.06:33
Lynoureholycow: the situation: lot of load, minimal cpu use. vmstat hint at high disk use, yet the culprit is hard to find06:33
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holycow*nod* totally ... there must be, the question jsut never came up06:33
holycowactually06:33
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holycowi have one spam blocking server i wouldn't mind profiling with something like that06:34
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fignew_lol06:34
fignew_the load average takes IO into account06:35
holycowload average only counts the number of processes waiting in que06:35
holycowit doesn't take into account hd io06:35
holycowas an example06:35
_2!away | toretto06:36
ubotutoretto: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines06:36
fignew_lol, the CPU is waiting for IO :P06:36
_2slow cpu06:40
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Lynoureload average counts any waiting processes, no matter why they have to wait...06:41
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fignew_ok?06:43
bootsmorriswhats up guys06:43
holycowthe sun the sky and the moon06:43
holycowor06:43
_2bootsmorris we're looking for an io meter06:43
holycowif your in australia06:43
holycowus06:43
holycowwhy do you ask?06:43
Jucatowhat's an io meter?06:43
fignew_what would they be waiting on besides IO?06:43
holycow-_-06:43
Jucatobase 2, what's an io meter?06:44
bootsmorriswhat is an io meter06:44
_2Jucato something to meter io and report on it.06:44
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bootsmorriswhat version of jubuntu are yall running.  i am running 7.10 beta06:44
LynoureJucato: like top, but for io :)06:44
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fignew_Jucato: no worries, I already told them: top06:44
_2all io   and i'm not sure how one would measure it.06:45
LynoureJucato: my need is mostly for disk io, but multiple modes are a plus. Recommendations?06:45
hydrogenan iometer?06:45
bootsmorrissuperkaramba06:45
_2fignew_ you told us something that doesn't apply really06:45
hydrogenwhich is a greek meter06:45
hydrogenobviously06:46
Jucatohm... kinda difficult to measure I guess... specially with KDE using lots of kio processes06:46
fignew_like hell it doesn't :/06:46
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stdinfignew_: really? can provide a screenshot of top measuring disk i/o per process then?06:47
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JucatoLynoure: I would probably tell you to look into ksysguard.. but I don't know how to interpret the other sensors06:47
fignew_stdin: sorry, I meant uptime06:47
fignew_the load average :)06:47
stdinagain, per process?06:47
bootsmorrisdoes anyone have any experience with kde 406:47
stdinbootsmorris: any part in particular?06:48
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fignew_they didn't ask for a specific process :/06:48
_2or even just per device06:48
bootsmorrisinstall06:48
stdinbootsmorris: have you seen the topic?06:48
_2we did ask for io metering per device   yes06:48
citrusflavordDaSkreech: I kinda like this here irssi06:48
fignew_Also, xosview gives you people what your looking for06:48
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DaSkreechcitrusflavord: It's great06:48
LynoureJucato: this is actually on a server... should have asked on #ubuntu, I guess, but I'm not normally there06:48
DaSkreechyou compiled it?06:49
bootsmorrisno06:49
JucatoLynoure: I think there's an #ubuntu-server too06:49
bootsmorriswhat is it06:49
DaSkreechLynoure: We can answer here as well. As long as it's not DE06:49
DaSkreechJucato: isn't that devel?06:49
citrusflavordDaSkreech: can you show me a trick with it?06:49
_2!info xosview06:49
ubotuxosview: X based system monitor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.8.2-9 (feisty), package size 84 kB, installed size 272 kB06:49
DaSkreechcitrusflavord: You mean like Alt+Num to hop windows ?06:50
JucatoDaSkreech: not really sure06:50
stdinbootsmorris: type in /topic06:50
fignew_/topic06:50
bootsmorrisok06:50
bootsmorriswell i dont know much about linux/kubuntu but i will try to help06:51
citrusflavordDaSkreech: I enjoy how simple it is, and running things in terminal makes me feel smarter :D06:51
stdinhttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php06:51
DaSkreechcitrusflavord: after a while it will make you smarter06:52
bootsmorrisi already did the kde beta 2 d/l it is downloading with adept right now06:52
DaSkreechBeta 3 :)06:52
bootsmorriswhatever the new one is06:52
Lynoure2_: ideally a cli thing. and seeing general usage level does not help much.06:52
fignew_Jeeze you guys are picky06:53
stdinbeta 2, beta 3 isn't out yet06:53
bootsmorrisok beta 206:53
bootsmorrisis it much different than kde 3.5?06:53
stdinyes, it is06:54
DaSkreechvery06:54
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holycoweverything is rewritten, right?06:54
bootsmorriswhat programs come with it by default06:54
stdinand completely unusable right now :)06:54
DaSkreechstdin: though I hear that qt5 won't break qt4 so that's nice06:54
stdinDaSkreech: wow, a compatible API, what a nice idea :p06:54
Jucato*if/when* there's a Qt 5 within the next decade or so :P06:55
Jucatoanyway... !offtopic anyone? :)06:55
bootsmorrissorry06:56
holycowi've never been convinced compatable apis were a good idea06:56
holycowthen you get the sheize likein the ms world06:56
bootsmorrisso how long have yall been using kubuntu06:56
stdinif(user.offtopic()) toofftopic(user);06:56
holycowprogrammers just continue same ol bad ideas06:56
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intelikeyX: cannot stat /etc/X11/X (No such file or directory), aborting.06:56
Jucatostdin: use camel case please :)06:57
intelikeywhat package provides  /etc/X11/X  ?06:57
holycowxorg06:57
stdinJucato: Ok I'Ll UsE tHe CaMeL cAsE06:57
Jucatointelikey: xserver-xorg-core06:57
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intelikeyJucato i have that...06:57
Jucatostdin: only works for identifiers :P06:57
Jucatoweird then06:58
intelikeyholycow that's only a meta package06:58
holycowtrue that06:58
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intelikeyso it doesn't provide it.06:58
fignew_bootsmorris: since 5.10 here06:58
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intelikeybootsmorris 5.406:59
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intelikey-root: startx: command not found07:00
intelikeywhat provides that ?07:00
intelikeyi'm beginning to think it's a conspericy07:00
fignew_xinit07:00
fignew_^^^ intelikey07:01
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intelikeyi saw it.07:02
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fignewmaking sure you knew who it was for... I have a tendency to randomly say package names...07:03
intelikeyheh.  ok.07:03
fignewemacs07:03
intelikeylinking /usr/bin with /usr/bin/X11  wasn't a good idea.   i have a fork bomb going off now.07:04
intelikeyX: warning; process set to priority -1 instead of requested priority 007:04
intelikeyX: warning; process set to priority -1 instead of requested priority 007:04
intelikeyX: warning; process set to priority -1 instead of requested priority 007:04
intelikeyX: warning; process set to priority -1 instead of requested priority 007:04
intelikeyX: warning; process set to priority -1 instead of requested priority 007:04
intelikeyX: warning; process set to priority -1 instead of requested priority 007:04
intelikeyX: warning; process set to priority -1 instead of requested priority 007:04
intelikeyX: warning; process set to priority -1 instead of requested priority 007:05
fignewO.o07:05
Jucatotsk...07:05
fignewI'd rather have a fork bomb than a spoon grenade07:05
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intelikeysorry guys,  when i bomb things i do it up right....07:07
Jucatodon't do it again please? :)07:07
fignewdo what?07:07
fignewlink /usr/bin with /usr/bin/X11?07:08
intelikeyJucato i didn't paste anything.  i clicked the mouse and the world ended.07:08
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intelikeybut i suspect it dunped to the bx window.07:08
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intelikeyfignew yeah.07:08
Jucatoyeah...07:09
intelikeyhow many lines ?07:09
stdin807:09
intelikeyeek07:09
intelikeyi saw about three thousand.07:09
fignewthat's always fun07:09
Jucatokool :)07:10
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_2so.    now what does "/etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc: line 2: exec: /usr/bin/X11/X: cannot execute: No such file or directory"  this?07:13
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_2what provides   /usr/bin/X11/X   ?07:14
stdinx11-common07:15
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_2stdin i guess not.   x11-common is already the newest version.07:16
_2i thought that   /usr/bin/X11   was a symlink on ubuntu systems ?07:16
stdinwell, dpkg -S has "x11-common: /usr/bin/X!07:16
_2yes   but not   /usr/bin/X11/X07:16
stdinit is, /usr/bin/X11 > /usr/bin07:17
_2but making that links caused the fork bomb that brought down intelikey07:17
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Jucato-rwsr-sr-x 1 root root 7472 2007-09-19 09:00 /usr/bin/X11/X07:18
stdindon't know why "lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 1 2007-04-24 14:39 /usr/bin/X11 -> ."07:18
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_2hmmm   ok.   X  works   but startx  fork bombs07:18
saroset!printer07:18
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows07:18
Jucato_2: how about trying to reinstall xserver-xorg-core? I can recall someone having an almost similar problem before07:19
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_2i think i found it.   where does /etc/X11/X point /07:20
_2?07:20
Jucato /usr/bin/Xorg07:20
_2mine is /usr/bin/X  but that's not right is it ?07:20
_2ah ha.07:20
Jucato<Jucato> _2: how about trying to reinstall xserver-xorg-core? I can recall someone having an almost similar problem before07:20
_2ok that didn't fork bomb that time.07:21
_2Jucato i got it.   yes thanks.07:21
DaSkreech /usr/bin/X != /usr/bin/Xorg07:21
_2DaSkreech correct.07:21
stdinyes, but /etc/X11/X is07:21
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_2yeah got it.   X and startx working.   now i need something to run inside of X   like  rxvt maybe.07:22
stdinor xterm07:23
Jucatoxterm!!!07:23
Jucatotwm!!07:23
_2twm's menu is broken in dapper07:23
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DaSkreechxclock07:23
DaSkreechor klokk!07:23
_2and i dont want to rewrite it again.07:23
_2rxvt will be just fine.07:24
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dmagnoCan anyone help a tired user to solve the problema "Screens found, but none usable" when installing nvidia driver in Feisty?07:28
_2ok one more   what am i missing here    could not open default font 'fixed'07:28
_2there is no 'fixed' in the package listings.07:30
dmagnoI would really apreciate some kind o help :-)07:30
_2dmagno sounds like the monitor is setup out of the card/drivers range.   probably caused by either wrong monitor section or driver not functioning properly.     educated guess at best.07:32
dmagnooh, thank you for you guess :-)07:33
dmagnohow could I fix the setup o card/drivers range, which file/session should I fix?07:33
_2possable solutions are "reinstall other nvidia drivers"  'reconfigure the xserver' or revert to a working (nv) driver07:33
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_2can reconfigure with    sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    and  if all else fails   ask in irc.freenode.net #kubuntu07:34
_2oh that's here....07:34
dmagnonowdays I'm using nv drivers. I've tried a lot of diferent nvidia drivers thru ubuntu repositories or nvidia oficial drivers07:35
dmagnohow reconfigure the xserver would help to fix that problem?07:35
_2that's where you change the monitor section   or the driver07:36
_2that problem is in the xserver07:36
ehcare there any pdfeditors for kubuntu?07:36
_2or didn't you know that ?07:36
dmagnoyeah I know that, but never touched that config before07:37
dmagnoSo I'll try to reconfiure xserver07:38
dmagno_2 I'll be back07:38
dmagnothanx for you help!07:38
_2i bet you have.   you changed drivers....07:40
_2ah gone.07:40
_2ehc apt-cache search pdf07:40
_2if you see something you want to investigate,  apt-cache show "that"07:41
_2or use adept.07:41
ehc_2, okay thanks07:42
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fuhrerss  ?07:51
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sstchurwhat's the secret to shareing a directory so that it can be seen from a windows box?  I've specified share on a folder, but I'm not able to access it from other computers (I has samba installed)08:07
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mzolisigood morning08:33
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mzolisihi jessen08:34
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yottahow can i remove saved passwords in konqueror on kubuntu 6.10?08:41
mzolisiwell 'saved paswords' for the system or an application08:43
mzolisioh i se08:43
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mzolisido you a set of users08:44
mzolisior just for yourself08:44
yottasaved passwords for konqueror08:45
yottai accidently hin never ask to remember passwords for this site, and i wanna un-do that.08:45
mzolisii see, well not sure hey08:46
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mzolisiyou could go to www.kubuntuforums.net08:46
mzolisiand search there08:46
Jucatoyotta: there's a wallet icon in your system tray08:46
yottano, there is not.08:46
Jucatohm...08:46
yottakwallet is not installed08:47
Jucatocan you run "kwalletmanager"?08:47
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yottayeah08:47
Jucatodoes the wallet appear now?08:47
yottayeah08:48
yottait doesn't have the page i told konq to not save, though.08:48
Jucatohm....08:48
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Jucatomine is missing right now so I couldn't help you08:48
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yottaalso, firefox broke on me.08:50
mzolisibroke how?08:52
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yottawon't start, and i tried deleting my profile and starting it in safe mode08:53
Jucatoyotta: try starting it from Konsole, with "firefox"08:53
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yottayeah, i did08:54
yottadoesn't start08:54
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Jucatodoes it say anything?08:54
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mzolisiuninstall , then install again -best bet08:55
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mzolisiOR locate  a 'firefoxrc' file08:55
yottarandomly works again08:55
apparlehello i am new to linux help with sound card08:55
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mzolisithen remove the '*rc' file08:55
mzolisiand restart the app08:56
oemgrrrr08:56
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emilsedgh!shound | apparle08:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about shound - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:56
mzolisidown boy08:56
Jucato!sound08:56
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP308:56
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jMerliNzI am severely pissed off at creative right now.08:57
mzolisi?08:57
jMerliNzI don't think I'll ever be buying another creative product.08:57
mzolisiDont buy Logitech either08:57
jMerliNzCreative releases proprietary closed-source drivers for their x-fi product line for linux08:57
jMerliNzbut ONLY in the 64 bit version.08:57
apparlei have removed alsa as it is not working and I have put OSS08:57
jMerliNzWho the fuck with an x-fi runs 64bit linux?08:57
apparleIt works but no mic08:57
jMerliNzWhat new-age game exists that is designed for 64bit?08:58
stdinjMerliNz: watch the language08:58
holycowspeaking of which ...08:58
mzolisiwork with what you have08:58
holycoware there any sound cards (especially pro level) that have linux support?08:58
holycowand why not buy logitech? they don't play nice with us either?08:58
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jMerliNzfor a card that costs over $100, it better damn well have drivers for whatever system that supports new-age gaming that i choose08:59
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jMerliNzhttp://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_100.14.19.html <--09:00
jMerliNz8 series graphics card drivers for 32bit linux, surely those are about 50 times more complex than audio drivers09:01
jMerliNzCL is just a bunch of lazy retards, hence why i'll never buy another of their products.09:01
apparlehey anybody intrested in helping me09:01
holycowjust state the problem09:01
holycowif anyone knows they will09:01
holycowotherwise hang around for a bit09:02
jMerliNzanyway, is there an easy way to make kubuntu's start menu open when i hit the windows key on my keyboard? :>09:03
apparleI have installed OSS drivers as ALSA are not working09:03
apparlenow I can hear sound but no mic09:03
apparlewhen I connect mic sound gets reproduced from speakers but no recording is possible09:04
apparleHey I also want to know how to use WIN key09:04
mzolisiHey yotta09:05
apparlewhat09:05
mzolisiabout the passwords in Kubuntu thing09:05
jMerliNzanyway, is there an easy way to make kubuntu's start menu open when i hit the windows key on my keyboard? :>09:05
mzolisihttp://www.konqueror.org/faq/09:05
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mzolisii think that should help a bit09:05
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apparlewhat about the sound card09:06
JucatojMerliNz: I think there is, but you lose the Win key for any other usage afaik. you'll have to google a bit though. can't recall the exact steps09:06
JucatojMerliNz: alternatively you can use Katapult (Alt+Space) or map the K Menu to Win+something09:06
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jMerliNzwell when i press the win key it does nothing09:06
yottai found it already with grep -R09:06
jMerliNzsurely you can bind winkey to open the menu but winkey + a valid hotkey to do some other function like in windows09:07
jMerliNzi'd like to have at the minimum windows key open the start menu and win+r open the konsole09:07
JucatojMerliNz: yes. because it's not how the Win key behaves by default in Linux. it's a modifier key. meaning it has to be partnered with a regular key09:07
JucatoI'm not sure, but from what I experienced waay back (can't recall when), if I setup the Win key to launch the menu by default, that will be its only use09:08
apparledoes anybody know why screensavers are slow in kubuntu09:08
apparlethey play in steps09:08
jMerliNzget video drivers09:08
Jucatoit loses its Meta key nature09:08
apparleI have ATi card how to get them09:09
jMerliNzgo to www.ati.com09:09
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apparlegot the .run file next09:10
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Jucato!ati09:10
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:10
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apparlealright but is it possible to use the opensource drivers shiped with kbuntu09:12
deadlyninjadoes anyone know of a user friendly application to edit mpeg transport streams losslessly, i basically just want to cut data off the front and ends09:12
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jMerliNzJucato: those don't cover how to install nVidia's 8 series drivers09:12
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jMerliNzit needs to be run as root with X turned off, so basically log out and open a TLS window?09:13
JucatojMerliNz: um.. didn't he say ATI?09:13
Jucatoand what nvidia 8 series drivers?09:14
jMerliNzyes but I have an 8800GTS for which I have the drivers09:14
jMerliNzhttp://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_100.14.19.html09:14
jMerliNzthose.09:14
JucatoI was giving for apparle though09:14
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Jucato!info nvidia-glx-new gutsy09:14
apparlehey the X11 drivers work with all the players like MPlayer then why not screensavers09:15
ubotunvidia-glx-new: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'new' driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 100.14.19+2.6.22.4-12.4 (gutsy), package size 4896 kB, installed size 14848 kB09:15
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JucatojMerliNz: gutsy has that ^^^^09:15
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JenniowlHey, does anybody know how to get a usb headset working? x.o09:17
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Jucatostill no luck w/ that?09:18
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Jenniowli kept crashing just as people told me :\09:18
apparleis there any thing like task manager for linux where i can view the processes09:18
Jenniowlso i lost what they told me09:18
jMerliNzalso09:18
jMerliNzi just thought i'd mention09:18
jMerliNzwhen installing gutsy from the live CD09:19
jMerliNzusing the normal mode (not OEM), after installing then rebooting the system, I got a failure to start O/S notification09:19
jMerliNzI'm using an eVGA 680i motherboard if that's at all relevant to the issue09:19
jMerliNzbut installing via OEM worked fine09:19
jMerliNza little frustrating :>09:20
thill2708sigh... I'm inbetween jobs, and I'm looking to keep my teeth sharp. Which open source project should I look at? Any suggestions?09:20
Jucatoapparle: Ctrl+Esc09:20
apparlei am sitting on a public computer with XP09:21
thill2708apparle: do you only have terminal access to the linux computer?09:22
JenniowlHey, anybody know what 3rd party thing i have to allow for my adept manager to get the stuff for compiz?09:22
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apparleWhat do u mean by terminal access. I am a new user09:23
JucatoJenniowl: none. compiz is in the Ubuntu repositories already09:23
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Jucato<apparle> is there any thing like task manager for linux where i can view the processes <-- pressing Ctrl+Esc in Kubuntu does that09:24
Jucato!compiz | Jenniowl09:24
ubotuJenniowl: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects09:24
Jucatofor more info09:24
thill2708apparle: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-331065.html09:24
Jenniowlis there a more info thingy for usb headsets too ? >.>09:24
thill2708apparle: but yeah, pressing ctrl-esc in kubuntu will do it too, it's called the kde system guard09:25
Jucato(or part of it)09:25
apparleok09:25
apparleanything like GDebi for kbuntu09:25
Jucatoin gutsy there is09:25
Jucatogdebi-kde09:26
Jucatowhich will be released in 2 weeks...09:26
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thill2708:( why isn't openoffice 2.3 getting pushed to fiesty?09:27
apparlegdebi-kde is going to be released in 2 wks09:27
apparle??????????09:27
Jucatoapparle: gutsy09:27
thill2708also, has the upgrade to gutsy from fiesty been ironed out?09:27
Jucatohm... that's the big question :)09:28
jMerliNz...09:28
thill2708awesome :)09:28
thill2708hah09:28
frejdamluv tady nkdo esky09:28
jMerliNzwhy won't gutsy let you change the mouse ratio below 1.0?09:28
apparlewhat is gutsy09:28
Jucato!cz | frejda09:28
ubotufrejda: esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.09:28
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jMerliNzi'm using a super high res mouse, it moves too fast even at 1.0 -.-09:28
apparlei have feisty 7.0409:28
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JenniowlOMG09:29
JenniowlYAY!09:29
Jenniowli got it working09:29
Jucatousb headsets?09:29
Jenniowlone of the damn compiz things didnt work and all the windows had no bars09:29
Jenniowlnope09:29
Jenniowlcompiz09:29
Jucatoaah :(09:29
Jucatohehe09:29
Jenniowlhttp://forlong.blogage.de/article/2007/8/26/The-best-way-to-install-Compiz-Fusion-on-Ubuntu-Feisty09:29
slackernspiderpig to the rescue09:29
Jenniowli HIGHLY recommend that article for compiz fusion09:29
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apparlewhat is gutsy09:30
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Jenniowlit even lets the newbies beginners get it working09:30
slackern!gutsy09:30
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information09:30
Jucatoapparle: next version of Kubuntu09:31
apparlewhen will the stable version release09:31
JenniowlBut still nobody knows about usb headsets? i really need to get it working :S09:31
slackernapparle: 28 oct if i remember right09:31
Jucato18 october09:32
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thill2708when's the next LTS release?09:32
slackernsorry i ment 18th october09:32
Jucatothill2708: 8.0409:32
Snuxollthill2708: IIRC 8.04 will be LTS...09:32
JucatoApril next year09:32
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apparlewhat is LTS09:33
SnuxollWohoo...we sure drilled that version number in his head :p09:33
Jucato!lts | apparle09:33
ubotuapparle: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.09:33
thill2708hah09:33
apparleok09:34
SnuxollThey had better make the 6.06 -> 8.04 upgrade path REAL easy though....09:34
thill2708hm, never thought about that09:34
Jucato(that will be a first...)09:34
SnuxollI'd hate to see people FLIP that they have to do dist-upgrades through the WHOLE chain just to get to the next LTS...09:34
Jucatoindeed09:34
SnuxollThat's why my servers always run the latest stable release :p09:34
Jucatoalthough Dapper would still be supported on servers until 201109:35
Snuxollhttp://www.pgina.org/?page_id=11 Interesting....09:35
apparleis there any offline .deb package manager for kubuntu as gdebi in ubuntu09:35
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Jucatoand 2008 on desktops09:35
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Snuxollapparle: Right click the package09:35
Jucatoapparle: unfortunately, nope09:35
Jenniowlokay >.> nother question, does anybody know how to get a intel proset wireless card to run on kubuntu feisty?09:35
Jucatoapparle: but you can simply install the .deb package the way Snuxoll mentioned09:36
SnuxollThere isn't a pretty GUI one Jucato, but Kubuntu provides a easy way to launch dpkg09:36
JucatoSnuxoll: gdebi does more than just install .deb packages09:36
Jucatoso it's not an exact equivalent09:36
slackernUbuntu uses gdebi-gtk09:36
apparlebut the method u mentiondoes not check dependecies and installs broken packages09:37
slackernatleast in gutsy right now09:37
Jucatoapparle: yes. exactly09:37
Jucatoslackern: gutsy has gdebi-kde09:37
Jucatoand there's no gdebi-gtk09:37
slackernSure there is if you are using ubuntu09:38
apparlecan i use gdebi in kubuntu09:38
SnuxollIt DOES check dependencies....it just doesn't install them09:38
JucatoSnuxoll: gdebi checks and resolves09:38
SnuxollYes, it does09:38
Jucato"gdebi lets you install local deb packages resolving and installing its dependencies. apt does the same, but only for remote (http, ftp) located packages"09:38
SnuxollI think apt-get can install .debs and check dep's too09:38
Jucatonope09:38
Jucatoapt-get doesn't do local .deb files09:39
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Snuxollwhat about aptitude?09:39
Jucatoaptitude uses apt09:39
SnuxollActually...it seems apt CAN install .debs09:39
jMerliNzwhy is the minimum multiplier for the mouse movement speed in gutsy 1.0???09:39
Jucatoif you discovered how, please do share09:40
jMerliNzi'm sure it is likely the same in fiesty, is there a way to fix this?09:40
SnuxollHold on09:40
apparleI donot have net on my PC so i download packages from my college. So i wanna check if all dependencies are correct or not. So I want something like GDebi09:40
thill2708anyone here ever touch mythbuntu?09:40
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apparlenope09:40
SnuxollNm...09:41
Snuxollcould have sworn...09:41
Jucatoapparle: using dpkg (or the Kubuntu Service menu) will tell you what dependencies it needs if they are missing. then you can get those dependencies . but one by one09:41
apparlehow to tell me09:41
Jucatoapparle: just try to install it. it will complain about unmet dependencies. then take note of those and download those .deb packages too09:42
SnuxollOr apt-get them...09:42
Jucatohm..09:43
Jucato!aptoncd09:43
ubotuAPTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers09:43
apparlejust the thing is that for some packages it causes real problem because neither can I remove some of those broken packages nor reinstall them .09:43
apparleI have reinstalled whole system once due to this09:44
jMerliNzso how do you remove a modifier key?09:44
jMerliNzso i can use the windows key as a normal key?09:44
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apparleI have a funny problem! input from mic gets reproduced from speakers but no recording is possible09:44
Jucatoapparle: yes you can. dpkg --remove package (without the version numbers)09:44
Jucatoor apt-get remove package (w/o the version numbers)09:44
jMerliNzanyone?09:46
apparleeg: I had put the OSS withput dependecies and there it was stuck neithere uninstalling nor reinstalling by above methods09:46
jMerliNzanyone?09:47
mzolisibeats me09:48
apparlehow to mount image files like iso nrg etc09:48
mzolisilive without it09:48
mzolisiPOWERISO09:48
Jucato!iso | apparle09:48
ubotuapparle: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.09:48
mzolisi!cake | mzolisi09:49
apparleand how to mount other image files09:49
mzolisi[09:45]  <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cake - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:49
Jucatoapparle: like bin/cue?09:49
apparleno like nrg09:49
Jucatoah.. that I don't know. because nrg is a proprietary format by Nero09:50
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Jucatobut you can convert it to iso09:50
Jucato!info nrg2iso09:50
ubotunrg2iso: Extracts ISO9660 data from Nero ".nrg" files. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4-1.1 (feisty), package size 4 kB, installed size 64 kB09:50
Snuxollnrg?09:50
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mzolisi!info poweriso09:50
ubotuPackage poweriso does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas09:50
apparlehow is acetone iso09:51
mzolisioh09:51
feimao!info mds09:51
Jucatoan ISO is an ISO, doesn't matter which app made it. it's a standard. but nrg isn't09:51
ubotuPackage mds does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas09:51
apparlei mean the linux package which mounts image files09:53
Snuxollapparle: What, you mean: mount ?09:53
apparlemakes virtual drives and mounts on them09:53
Jucatoapparle: the command was given already09:54
apparlehttp://www.acetoneteam.org/central.html09:54
Jucatowhere <mountpoint> would be the equivalent of your virtual drive09:54
apparlesee the link09:54
Jucatothere is no need for 3rd party applications09:54
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Jucatothe ability to mount ISO's as a "virtual drive" is already built-in09:54
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Jucatothere's no package for acetoneiso2 though09:55
JucatoI mean, no package from Ubuntu.09:55
apparleand how to make iso images. Is it possible to do so with k3b09:55
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Jucatoyeah I think so (not really sure on that one)09:56
justin__alright, so how do you make windows a non-modifier key jucato?09:56
apparleyes i also wanna know how to use win key09:56
Jucatojustin__: like I said ealier.. I don't know...09:56
justin__doesn't show up with a google..09:57
apparleIf the CD is scratched then what to do09:57
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Jucatoapparle: it's scratched... what else can you do?09:58
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apparleIf it is a movie disc with some part scratched then can I copy it09:58
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mzolisiuse CDclinic09:59
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apparlecan k3b do anything about it09:59
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apparlewhat did you say about checking md5 sum before burning10:00
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apparleis CDclinic in ubuntu feisty repositories10:03
apparlehello mzolisi10:04
apparleare u there10:04
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apparlehello any body there10:05
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berkesapparle: no :)10:05
apparleJucato : what did u say about checking md5 of iso before burning10:05
berkesdoes anyone know a way to find a certain entry(passw) from kwalletmanager via commandline?10:06
apparleWhat to do about reading scratched discs10:06
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JucatoI didn't say anything10:06
waylandbill_apparle: use md5sum to read the iso.10:07
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apparlejucato:sorry10:08
apparlewaylandbill_apparle: use md5sum to read the iso.      what do u mean10:08
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marucohi I need some serious help10:09
shane1234we all need some serious help10:09
marucoI don't know how but now I cannot use KDE except for the failsafe mode10:09
marucoI mean10:09
maruconothing is working10:09
waylandbill_apparle: the program that reads the md5 checksum is called md5sum. It's available for just about any platform as it is open source. Use google to find a suitable version.10:09
marucoI cannot even use my browser to surf the net here10:10
apparlealright10:10
apparle\I have a funny problem! input from mic gets reproduced from speakers but no recording is possible. please help10:10
marucodo you think that if I download ubuntu-desktop and then try to restart everything can be useful?10:10
marucoI tried to get a gutsy cd but it seems not to work10:10
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reganomics I thought K3b checked the md5sum as it prepared to burn a nominatted ISO file10:11
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apparlei don't know do u10:12
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apparleI have a funny problem! input from mic gets reproduced from speakers but no recording is possible. please help10:12
apparleI have a funny problem! input from mic gets reproduced from speakers but no recording is possible. please help10:12
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apparleI have a funny problem! input from mic gets reproduced from speakers but no recording is possible. please help10:12
apparleI have a funny problem! input from mic gets reproduced from speakers but no recording is possible. please help10:12
apparleI have a funny problem! input from mic gets reproduced from speakers but no recording is possible. please help10:12
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apparlehey please help man10:12
apparleanybody expert here10:13
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waylandbill_!patience10:14
ubotuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines10:14
ubuntu_apparle:  see this thread:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20544910:14
waylandbill_apparle: you should check the mixer settings. You may have the wrong line selected for input.10:14
apparlealright I will be patient. The only thing is that ia am trying to use the mic for a month and i am frustrated10:15
ubuntu_also if you have more than 1 sound device that could be the problem10:15
apparleI have selected correct line: Still nothing10:15
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apparlei only have one sound device wich is onboard10:16
ubuntu_ah ok10:16
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ubuntu_no usb devices?10:16
apparleonly my oendrive10:17
apparlesorry pendrive10:17
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ubuntu_ok, have a look through that link I gave you, it is really good :)10:17
apparleit is opening I have slow conncetion10:18
ubuntu_ok10:18
ubuntu_it's a long read, but I'm sure it will give you some pointers :)10:18
apparleI had read it before. I use OSS drivers as ALSA doesn't work for me at all( tried everything for a month). My board RC4107MA-RS2.10:21
ubuntu_bugger :(10:21
apparlewhat10:21
mzolisiWhat is OSS?10:22
waylandbill_open sound system10:22
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apparleOpen sound drivers10:22
ubuntu_what sound device is it?  open a terminal and type this: lspci | grep audio10:22
apparlesorry10:22
apparleopen sound system10:22
apparlei am sitting on a public PC don't have net at home10:23
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ubuntu_ah10:23
ubuntu_copy that command down and run it later maybe :)10:23
apparlePlease see if u get any body with the motherboad RC4107MA-RS2 and working linux sound10:23
ubuntu_it will show you what your sound device is10:23
apparletry google I didn't find any thing10:24
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apparlealright I have to go bye10:24
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[ifr0g] hplip.. Do i really need that ?10:42
naught101anyone here running vanilla KDE instead of kubuntu-desktop?10:42
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distrihi early here in morning10:45
distrinot even 5 m and i'm up already10:45
distrianyone here know about10:46
distrideleting masses of files?10:47
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distrieach one has to have permissions changed10:47
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distrii got 256 files have change permissions and deleted10:48
distriwhat's the command line for this10:48
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distriplease help10:50
hangthedjyou want to change the permissions and then delete them?10:50
distrime i don't know about linux10:50
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distrihangthedj you know ?10:51
naught101distri: you probably don't need to change the permissions, just delete them as root (with sudo, or su)10:51
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naught101are tehy all in one folder?10:51
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distrii tried it and i have to change permissions on all 256 folders first10:52
distriall 256 folders have one file each10:52
vitalySorry if I ask question form FAQ. Today when I upgrade kubuntu 6.06 Adept crash with error 11 (sigserv). I found information if bug list but can't find how to repair.10:53
naught101distri: are all the folders in one folder?10:53
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distriyes i renamed it g10:53
hangthedjdistri, sudo rm -rv g10:53
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distrii can rename it g but can't rename all those 256 folders10:53
naught101what hangthedj said10:54
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hangthedjdistri, that will remove the folder g, and all the subfolders10:54
Jucatoyou can do it also from inside a "root" konqueror window: kdesu konqueror10:54
Jucato(don't forget to close Konqueror after that and don't use it to go online)10:54
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distrioh thnks10:55
distrii wish i knew all these commands thanks for help10:55
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aantipopif i insert a usb-stick on a machine where the live-cd runs, will i have write access to the usb stick ?11:00
Jucatoyep11:01
Jucato(or at least it should)11:01
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civixiergah, when im downloading something from beryl-themes.org it keeps opening the binary file in kate :( how do i just save it?11:03
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hangthedjcivixier, the quick sloppy fix, you can open the link in a new tab or window, then go to location save page as.  or copy the url, and open kget and add the file to it.11:06
civixierhmm, ill try that. thx :D11:07
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Jucatoother fix, use kget and integrate w/ konqueror11:07
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civixier!uninstall11:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about uninstall - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:08
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hangthedji've got kget integrated with konqueror and it still opens in kate, i just don't download enough deb files to care.11:09
civixierhmm.. it worked downloading it in firefox ^^11:09
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Jucatoyeah the problem is on the server side11:09
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hangthedjyeah, downloading deb files from, like sourceforge never opens in konqueror11:10
hangthedji mean kate.11:10
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civixierokay now... how do I switch from my current interface to beryl?11:13
hangthedji dunno, i don't use beryl :(11:13
civixier:(11:13
hangthedjtry running beryl-manager11:13
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zorg_the_falseq. gutsy is 'due' this month, but is there any specified day within this month ?11:17
gnomefreakzorg_the_false: if you join #ubuntu+1 and look in topic it should give you a link11:18
gnomefreakzorg_the_false: #ubuntu+1 is the only place for gutsy questions atm11:18
zorg_the_falsegnomefreak: ok i will wait the end of the month then :)11:19
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JucatoOct. 18 would have been the answer if he stuck around long enough...11:20
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Jucatooh well..11:20
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[ifr0g] device not accepting address 45, error -7111:27
[ifr0g] ???11:27
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naught101where does one go about changing the multimedia keys settings in kubuntu?11:31
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naught101ie. kmilo settings. my laptop's volume up/down/mute keys are no longer working11:33
JenniowlOi im having a lovely new issue guys x.x adept manager wont open, ive tried rebooting, it keeps telling me its in use by another prog11:33
Jenniowland as i note, mine are having that same issue11:33
Jenniowl>.>11:33
Jenniowlthey worked fine earlier, then they just stopped working, but that doesnt bother me too bad11:34
hangthedjnaught101, you have to uninstall kmilo, and then use kmix to configure global and regular shortcuts.11:34
naught101hangthedj: will do11:34
Jenniowlnot hte same prog XD just bad luck on my end with stuff today11:34
hangthedjkmilo, seriously needs to be worked on11:34
Jenniowlthe*11:34
hangthedjif it doesn't recognize your card from like 4 or 5 in its settings it sets you to generic11:35
hangthedjand generic has pcm first, kmilo will only work if master is first.11:35
hangthedj!fixadept11:36
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 11:36
Jenniowldpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of compiz-extra:11:37
Jenniowl compiz-core (1:0.5.2+git20070918-0ubuntu5~ppa1) breaks compiz-extra (<= 0.3.6.1-0ubuntu2) and is installed.11:37
Jenniowl  Version of compiz-extra to be configured is 0.3.6.1-0ubuntu2.11:37
Jenniowldpkg: error processing compiz-extra (--configure):11:37
Jenniowl dependency problems - leaving unconfigured11:37
JenniowlErrors were encountered while processing:11:37
Jenniowl compiz-extra11:37
Jenniowli cant even get in to remove the package :S11:37
hangthedjJenniowl, try in a konsole aptitude install -f11:38
JenniowlReading package lists... Done11:38
JenniowlBuilding dependency tree11:39
JenniowlReading state information... Done11:39
JenniowlInitializing package states... Done11:39
JenniowlBuilding tag database... Done11:39
JenniowlE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)11:39
JenniowlE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?11:39
hangthedjsorry11:39
hangthedjsudo aptitude install -f11:39
Jenniowlheh11:39
hangthedj;)11:39
JenniowlReading package lists... Done11:39
JenniowlBuilding dependency tree11:39
JenniowlReading state information... Done11:39
JenniowlInitializing package states... Done11:39
JenniowlBuilding tag database... Done11:39
JenniowlE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)11:39
JenniowlE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?11:39
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Jenniowlgah11:39
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JenniowlResolving dependencies...11:41
hangthedjtry 'sudo aptitude remove compiz-extra'11:41
JenniowlThe following actions will resolve these dependencies:11:41
JenniowlUpgrade the following packages:11:41
Jenniowlcompiz-core [1:0.5.2+git20070918-0ubuntu5~ppa1 (now) ->11:41
Jenniowl1:0.5.2+git20070918-0ubuntu5~ppa1 (feisty)] 11:41
JenniowlScore is 011:41
JenniowlAccept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] 11:41
Jenniowlim assuming the Y choice here?11:41
hangthedjyes11:41
Jenniowldpkg: error processing compiz-extra (--configure):11:42
Jenniowl dependency problems - leaving unconfigured11:42
JenniowlErrors were encountered while processing:11:42
Jenniowl compiz-extra11:42
JenniowlE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)11:42
JenniowlA package failed to install.  Trying to recover:11:42
hangthedjok, try doing the later,11:42
Jenniowldpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of compiz-extra:11:42
hangthedjtry 'sudo aptitude remove compiz-extra'11:42
Jenniowl compiz-core (1:0.5.2+git20070918-0ubuntu5~ppa1) breaks compiz-extra (<= 0.3.6.1-0ubuntu2) and is installed.11:42
Jenniowl  Version of compiz-extra to be configured is 0.3.6.1-0ubuntu2.11:42
Jenniowldpkg: error processing compiz-extra (--configure):11:42
Jenniowl dependency problems - leaving unconfigured11:42
JenniowlErrors were encountered while processing:11:42
Jenniowl compiz-extra11:42
naught101hangthedj: now kmix doesn't recognise the raise/lower/mute volume keys11:43
hangthedjgusty will be out soon, and right now it has dependable compiz-fusion packages.11:43
JenniowlAH11:43
Jenniowltherewe go11:43
Jenniowl:)11:43
Jenniowlawesome11:44
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hangthedjnaught101, you have to set the default channel, and open the mixer window, and select global shortcuts.11:44
Jenniowlthanks for the help there :D11:44
hangthedjno problem. compiz has made me crazy for a long time.11:44
naught101hangthedj: yeah, that's what I did. when I try to assign the keys, pressing them gives no response11:44
Jenniowlits so much fun >.> its the biggest reason im trying linux out so much11:44
hangthedjnaught101, when i first did it i had to reboot to get rid of kmilo once and for all.11:45
naught101ok, I might give that a go11:45
JenniowlHey hangthedj, any idea how to get a "intel proset wireless a/b/g internal wireless card working?11:46
hangthedjand sudo modprobe button11:46
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hangthedjlaptop?11:46
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Jenniowlmhhm11:46
naught101button? before or after reboot?11:46
hangthedjtry rebooting first.11:46
hangthedjnot sure, i have an Atheros.11:47
Jenniowlblagh, i want to use wireless11:47
hangthedjtry www.linux-laptops.org.  and find your laptop.  its an awesome site.11:47
Jenniowlit should have decent support, dell is good for that11:47
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seicherlbobhi there! what permissions do i need to set, if i want to allow a user to config network interfaces11:47
hangthedjseicherlbob, i think the best way would be to add them to the /etc/sudoers file so they can use sudo.11:49
seicherlbobhangthedj: the thing is, i want to write some c-programms/shell scripts to choose network profiles from acpi-events (on my laptop). I would like to avoid entering the password all the time11:50
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seicherlbobi only want my user to have access to network-config stuff (interfaces, dhcp, vpnc)11:51
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hangthedjseicherlbob, i think, if thats what you want, you can set that up in the /etc/sudoers file.  try man sudoers11:51
hangthedjoh, i'm not really sure then.  sorry11:52
seicherlbobhmm... ok. thanks11:52
avainOh, right, before i forget, how do i get mp3 support going again?11:52
hangthedj!find libxine-extracodecs11:52
ubotuFound: libxine-extracodecs11:53
hangthedj!info libxine-extracodecs | avain11:53
ubotuavain: libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, transitional package. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.4-2ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 38 kB, installed size 68 kB11:53
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avainouch x.o11:58
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jenniowli got one once when i was 16 x.x11:59
jenniowli had a gum infection11:59
mzolisihi jenniowl11:59
jenniowlso the 3 they did that day had no freezing :D11:59
jenniowlAllo11:59
mzolisi3 root canals in the same day?11:59
mzolisithat's gotta hurt11:59
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mzolisi...or not12:00
Jucatoanyone know of a quick and dirty way to convert WAV to OGG?12:00
mzolisisoundKonverter?12:01
mzolisicommand line...........12:01
mzolisiusing lame....12:01
mzolisiwould be...12:01
Jucatobut lame is for mp3 :)12:01
mzolisireally?12:01
JucatoLAME = LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder12:02
Jucatoanyway, found one I think. thanks anyway12:02
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mzolisitherefore...12:03
Jucatohttp://lame.sourceforge.net/index.php12:03
Jucatothat's about lame12:03
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mzolisiwhat's OGG12:04
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Jucato!ogg12:04
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:04
Jucatoa free multimedia format12:04
Jucatoogg vorbis for audio, ogg theora for video12:04
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luyzathat would be ideal but not always feasable12:05
Jucatohttp://www.vorbis.com/12:05
Jucato???12:05
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mzolisicool12:05
JucatoI'm converting a WAV (lossless) to OGG (lossy) for myself. what's not feasible about that?12:05
Snuxoll|SleepNothing isn't feasible about that12:06
JucatoI rest my case12:06
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luyzaoh god, how long will it take to convert 40GB to convert :P  And how will I transfer ogg to ipod >_>12:06
Snuxoll|Sleepluyza: User AAC isntead?12:06
mzolisiwhat kind of musdic is it?12:07
Jucatosorry but I don't care about your ipod. I was looking for a wav to ogg converter. so my case isn't your case12:07
Snuxoll|SleepJucato: ffmpeg can do it, so can VLC12:07
luyzaoh must have missed that part as i kind of just joined the channel ^^12:07
Jucatoyes. that's why I was surprised at your sudden interjection12:08
emilsedghJucato: soundKonverter ?12:08
JucatoSnuxoll|Sleep: thanks. apparently oggenc doesn't accept wavs.. hm...12:08
mzolisiIt really depnds on what type of music you're listening to12:08
Jucatoemilsedgh: quick and dirty.. that's too fancy :)12:08
Jucatoit's not music12:08
Snuxoll|SleepI listen to fall out boy :)12:08
emilsedghjussi01: so try transkode amarok scripts ;)12:08
emilsedghJucato: ^12:08
Snuxoll|SleepAnd Panic! at the Disco...12:09
Snuxoll|Sleepand Nickelback...12:09
Snuxoll|Sleepdoes that say something about me?12:09
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jussi01grrr12:10
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Snuxoll|Sleepnight12:10
jussi01emilsedgh: this is an annoying ping....12:11
emilsedghjussi01: sorry, im really sorry12:11
jussi01heheeheheh12:11
jussi01no probs... :) Just had to take my frustration out on someone....12:11
emilsedghjussi01: :P12:12
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mzolisiJucato, the reason why i'm asking is because there is a limit as to how much you ear will pick up12:13
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mzolisiFor instance, classical music vs Rock12:14
Jucatomzolisi: I see. the WAV file is of good quality and it's an interview. not music12:14
mzolisiSimilar to phone calls12:14
Jucatoanyway... nvm :)12:14
mzolisiloss tolerant, i see, My mistae12:14
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klinterhi everyone12:17
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klintercan someone please help me out with setting RT61 wifi card on Kubuntu 7.4 ?12:18
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jussi01!wireless | klinter12:19
ubotuklinter: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:19
seicherlbobdoes anybody know how to work with sudoers file? the man page is a bit... confusing12:19
Jucatowhatever you do, use visudo. don't edit directly12:21
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jerihi everyone!12:34
Doctor_Nickvideo gaems12:34
Doctor_Nick:D12:34
jeriim still here trying to figure how my frostwire will work12:35
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jeriive just installled it,and i think a plugin,i dont know what12:35
nekooOk, nju12:35
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naught101hangthedj: didn't work (modprobe button didn't fix the inactivity of the media buttons)12:36
jerican someone help me?12:36
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naught101!ask12:38
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:38
nekoosorry but i don't youse frostwire so i cant, nju12:39
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jeriwat command do i use to install libxines-extracodecs for dapper?12:39
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klinterRT61, aka rt 2561, please help me set it up before I crawl back to XP...12:42
[ifr0g] jeri, i think apt-get ..12:43
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nekooapt-get install (softwere)12:47
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jerihow do i make my dapper boot fast?12:52
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naught101ok. This is the only problem I've ever caused that I haven't been able to find any information about fixing12:58
naught101can someone on a laptop (dell latitude prefereably), run xev from a console, and tell me what symbol they get for the media buttons?12:59
naught101ie. volume up/down/mute12:59
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naught101I get "keycode 176 (keysym 0x0, NoSymbol)"01:01
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klinterhow can i figure out which video card I have?01:03
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naught101klinter: lspci01:05
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klinternaught101: 10x01:07
naught101eh?01:07
klinterthanks01:07
klinterkiddi slang :)01:07
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naught101heh01:07
Doctor_Nick:D01:08
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Doctor_Nick:D01:12
klinteranother silly question, where in kubuntu can I switch on the restricted drivers?01:12
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naught101anyone know what package or process creates the X key bindings for multimedia keys?01:16
jussi01!shortcuts01:16
ubotuKeyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at http://keytouch.sourceforge.net (GNOME) or https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys (KDE) - See !Keyboard for changing layouts01:16
naught101the defulat ones for kubuntu,Imean01:16
jussi01naught101: does that help?01:17
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naught101jussi01: cheers, but the keys were working when kubuntu was freshly installed, as edgy01:17
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naught101and a friend has a similar system, and it works on his, so I assume that there's some default that works, I want to go back to that01:17
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pippohi all, I have a problem configurin 855resolution, I have an ATI x300 and I can't obtain 1280x80001:18
pippoI am trying to set 855resolution but it says "Unknow VBIOS"01:18
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pippohow can I do01:18
pippo?01:18
jussi01naught101: you could run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg however you would then need to redo your display drivers also01:19
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jussi01!ati | pippo01:19
ubotupippo: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:19
pippothanks now I will try01:19
naught101jussi01: is it xserver-xorg that would do it?01:20
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naught101display drivers aren't a huge hassle01:20
jussi01naught101: it has keyboard config options in there01:20
jussi01however im not sure if it helps you all01:20
atlfalcons866can i install kubuntu on a ntfs partition01:21
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emilsedghatlfalcons866: why you want to do so?!01:22
atlfalcons866i dont want to i am just wondering if kubuntu could01:23
atlfalcons866i hate ntfs01:23
atlfalcons866i hate fat32,windows,ntfs, and everything to do with microsoft01:24
DragnslcrIn theory, maybe, but since write support for NTFS isn't completely reliable, I doubt it will be an option any time soon01:25
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sonoftheclayrAlright, this is really bugging me. Whenever I click on some text in Firefox a blinking cursor comes up and stays there and really annoys me. Anybody know what it or how I can stop it doing that?01:26
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naught101jussi01:  no joy. would I need to reboot? or restart x?01:27
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jussi01naught101: restart x at least01:29
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naught101jussi01: you rock01:30
naught101kmilo is even working again01:30
sonoftheclayrOkay it's certainly something in my profile but it isn't a theme or plugin.01:30
naught101every thing is sweeeeeet01:30
naught101thakns01:30
naught101er.. thanks01:30
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vargranhi everyone!01:31
jussi01naught101: great :)01:31
vargranI got laptop Asus X50V series, it has Ati Mobility Radeon X2300, kubuntu 7.04. the question: how do I make all it work together? the main problem: X doesn't start and I got wxga not vga.01:32
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boubbinim unable to play dvd's because i cant "select" anything fro mthe menu, the menu screen just rolls on and on but i cant push "play", how to fix ?01:33
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vargranany ideas?01:35
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atlfalcons866will kde4 be in gutsy01:47
jussi01atlfalcons866: not as default01:47
jussi01its only beta atm01:47
jussi01and not really useable yet01:47
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atlfalcons866will it be in the software resportoys when it is out of beta and stable01:48
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Daisuke_Idopossibly 3rd party01:48
naught101how would I go about installing the source package for kmilo (or kdeutils), from apt?01:48
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Jucatoatlfalcons866: packages for KDE will be made01:48
Daisuke_Idothe best one can hope for at this point is a possible inclusion in hardy01:48
jussi01naught101: what do you mean?01:48
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Daisuke_Idoor a probable inclusion in hardy+101:48
Jucatowell... kubuntu.org isn't exactly your run of the mill "3rd party"01:48
naught101jussi01: http://downloads.guillermoamaral.com/linux/kde/kmilo/howto01:49
JucatoDaisuke_Ido: no inclusion in hardy either01:49
nosrednaekimnaught101:  you have to enable the source repositores, and then run "sudo apt-get source kdeutils"01:49
naught101first couple of lines01:49
Daisuke_IdoJucato: true01:49
squashball_how do I add/remove a boot service to the runlevels?01:49
Daisuke_Idoooh, so hardy+1 at best?01:49
naught101nosrednaekim: I have done that..01:49
Jucatonaught101: why compile? it's int he repositories01:49
atlfalcons866so the release after hardy will have kde401:49
JucatoDaisuke_Ido: yes01:49
naught101ahhh... sourcs...01:49
naught101Jucato: I want to patch it01:49
Jucatoatlfalcons866: by default. yes01:49
nosrednaekimatlfalcons866: well, gutsy does have kde4, but its not defualt01:49
naught101thanks nosrednaekim01:49
atlfalcons866ok01:50
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Jucatonaught101: might want to "sudo apt-get build-dep kmilo" too01:50
atlfalcons866does kubuntu have an offical website01:50
Jucatojust to make sure that you get all the necessary dependencies to build kmilo01:50
naught101Jucato: what does that do?01:50
Jucatoatlfalcons866: of course. http://kubuntu.org01:50
Jucatonaught101: I just said it :)01:50
naught101heh :)01:50
atlfalcons866ok01:50
Jucato"build-dep causes apt-get to install/remove packages in an attempt to satisfy the build dependencies for a source package"01:50
atlfalcons866i find kde for faster than gnome01:50
Jucatofrom man:/apt-get01:50
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andres_Hola Yonkis del Ubuntu01:51
naught101Jucato: since I already have kmilo installed, wouldn't it be safe to assume that I don't need to deal with dependancies?01:51
jussi01naught101: yeah, your fine01:51
naught101sweet01:51
Jucatonaught101: you misunderstand. build-dep are for the dependencies to **build** a package01:52
andres_Repito hola (hi) yonkis del Kubuntu01:52
naught101ah, ok. as in dev versions?01:52
Jucatoandres_: English only please01:52
andres_nono in bin version01:52
Jucatonaught101: whatever is needed to build it. -dev and others01:52
Jucatonaught101: the normal dependencies are what you call "runtime" dependencies, dependencies that are needed just to be able to run it01:53
andres_Jucato: Sorry, I'm spanish, my english is horrible01:53
Jucatobuild dependencies are different01:53
Jucato!es | andres_01:53
ubotuandres_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.01:53
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naught101yeah, ok.01:53
andres_thank you01:53
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pramodhello guys...01:54
Jucatohello01:54
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pramodis it worthwhile to install beryl on my kubuntu?01:54
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Jucatohm... tricky question..01:54
pramodreally?01:54
Jucato:)01:54
pramodwat's tricky in it?01:54
Jucatolet's just say it works for some and not for others01:54
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pramodah okie...01:55
Jucatobut it's relatively stable and works well01:55
pramodso i better not install it... :)01:55
michael071ubuntu rulesz!!01:55
pramodthanx01:55
pramodyeah it rules...01:55
Jucatoactually it's ok01:55
pramod:)01:55
Jucatoit runs, its fun, its beautiful01:55
Jucatobut how it plays with KDE isn't perfect...01:55
pramodokie i will try it...01:55
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michael071i format today my pc and install ubuntu01:55
Jucatoso there are just a very few bumps01:55
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michael071no windows anymore !01:55
pramodah... so i prefer forget it...01:55
nosrednaekimpramod: you're not going to permanatly srew anything up though.01:55
pramodany cool applications i can use?01:56
pramodwell i tried to remove mesa glx once and it removed all my applications...01:56
mickael_d01:56
pramodso i had to reinstall01:56
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pramodso i prefer not take any risk...01:56
pramodi use panda3d...01:56
pramodand mesa does not work with it since it use software rendering...01:57
pramodso i had to install nvidia-glx-new01:57
pramodphew... with some patience i was able to make panda work...01:57
nosrednaekimpramod: yeah... if you are using nvidia, beryl really isn't that hard.01:58
pramodokie....01:58
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pramodbtw... we got any other links other that the kubuntu archives to install kubuntu packages?01:59
Sin_Citadelhi, does anyone know how to change the start up apps on kubuntu01:59
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nosrednaekimpramod: why?02:00
nosrednaekimSin_Citadel: what do you want removed?02:01
pramodpehaps there may be some third party packages not found in the kubuntu archive server... btw am from mauritius... so i use the mu server...02:01
Sin_Citadelnosrednaekim: nothin removed ,  i want to add some apps on my startup02:02
nosrednaekimSin_Citadel: just a second..02:02
JucatoSin_Citadel: by default, when you leave apps running when you logout, they will be restarted when you login02:02
JucatoKDE Session Management02:02
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Jucato!autostart02:03
ubotuTo make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.02:03
Sin_Citadelok02:03
nosrednaekimJucato: I knew there was an easier way ;)02:03
Sin_Citadeland GUI?02:03
Sin_Citadeli mean, is there a GUI for it?02:03
Jucato"The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory."02:03
Sin_Citadelall right02:03
nosrednaekimJucato: they need to put that in...02:04
Jucatoof course nothing's easier than leaving it running and then logging out02:04
Jucatonosrednaekim: put what?02:04
nosrednaekimJucato: the autostart module.02:04
Jucatonosrednaekim: it's in ubotu's factoid02:04
Jucatobesides, the session management is nicer :)02:04
nosrednaekimJucato: lol... no I mean in kcontrol02:05
Squidyhello.. yesterday i tried to upgrade from kubuntu feisty to gutsy with adept_manager.. but i think there was a bug on upgrade process of kubuntu.. i don't know... but when the manager asked me about remove some packages unacessary, the window simply closed when i click on remove.. :(02:05
Jucatoand the only reason why people don't use it is because they don't know about it :)02:05
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pramodwhat is the best package manager we can use to install applications on kubuntu?02:05
JucatoAdept Manager?02:05
pramodwat is more practical?02:05
nosrednaekimJucato: yeah... someone needs to do a review of all the features of system settings.02:05
pramodAdept?02:05
Jucato!best | pramod02:05
Jucatohm.. ubotu??02:05
SquidyJucato: adept_manager --release-upgrade or something about that02:05
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ubotupramod: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.02:06
wiidoes anyone knows about kget?02:06
JucatoSquidy: it crashed for me too. had to go do it manually. use "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade --install-recommends"02:06
pramodok... wat most users recommend?02:06
Jucatoapt-get :P02:06
pramodkget?02:06
pramodyea02:06
nosrednaekimpramod: I use synaptic, the one for Ubuntu02:07
pramodit's a download manager that works with Konqueror02:07
SquidyJucato: humm.. i'm going to try..02:07
pramodyeah... that's the name i was looking for Synaptic...02:07
Squidythanks for while02:07
JucatoSquidy: take note of the last option02:07
Jucato--install-recommends02:07
wiipramod: i want to download a lot of stuff bu i want it to download 1by1 not all the same time02:07
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Sin_Citadeli installed it02:07
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Sin_Citadelit doesnt have a link on my shortcurts02:08
pramodBtw i use linux kubuntu feisty fawn 7.0402:08
SquidyJucato: ok.. when that occured i restarted the system and the net and audio didn't work anymore :'(02:08
Sin_Citadelwhere can i run it from?02:08
JucatoSin_Citadel: Alt+F2, kcontrol02:09
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pramodcan we create images for cd in kubuntu???02:09
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Sin_Citadelall right02:09
Jucatoit won't be in your shortcuts02:09
Jucatopramod: you mean ISO?02:09
wiipramod: i want to download a lot of stuff bu i want it to download 1by1 not all the same time.do u know how can i make it download 1by1?02:09
pramodyeah... and we can load it virtually...02:09
kuberhow can I add an init script to the runlevel?02:09
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pramodISO...02:10
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Sin_CitadelJucato: how can i configure apt-get to download multiple packages simultaneously02:11
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nosrednaekimwii: just wget does things 1 by 102:11
nosrednaekimSin_Citadel: just add the program names at the end02:11
JucatoSin_Citadel: I believe it does, but only in the background02:11
pramodu mean kget02:11
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pramodand just queue themmm02:11
JucatoSin_Citadel: um.. what do you mean?02:11
nosrednaekimSin_Citadel: like "apt-get install package1 package1"02:12
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Sin_Citadeli mean, if i want to download 10 packages, it downloads then 1 by 1, i want is for it to download 3/4 packages at a time02:12
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Jucatonosrednaekim: ^^^^02:12
pramodWii: u can queue them and then put a schedule according to their time02:12
Jucatopramod: wii not Wii.. unless you want to play w/ him :P02:13
Jucatoj/k02:13
Miiipramod: why should i put a time when i dont even know when the first one is going to finish02:13
nosrednaekimactually its Miii now ;)02:13
MiiiJucato: lol02:14
Jucatohahah02:14
Sin_Citadelhow can i configure 70debconf file02:14
pramodit gives you th time remaining... :)02:14
Sin_Citadelso that apt can use multiple connections to downlaod the packages02:14
Miiipramod: yes but it also wrong it tells me 1h when it can finish in 40min02:15
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pramodjucato can u help mii please....02:17
pramod?02:17
Jucatopramod: ??02:18
Sin_CitadelJucato: ?02:18
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Jucatopramod: about?02:18
pramodMiii02:18
JucatoSin_Citadel: yes?02:18
Sin_CitadelJucato: hoe cn i configure apt-get02:18
pramodhaving the download tasks queued...02:19
Sin_Citadelpramod: wont work02:19
Miiii want to download a lot of stuff bu i want it to download 1by1 not all the same time.do u know how can i make it download 1by1?02:19
pramodand downloading them automatically one by one...02:19
pramodwe got any configuration of that?02:19
Jucatopramod: I already told him how. but strangely it doesn't work for him02:19
Jucatowhere do you think he got the idea to use kget in the first place? :)02:20
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pramodwat u told him?02:20
JucatoLimits tab, set it to 102:20
pramodah okie02:20
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pramodfor me too it does not work... lol02:20
JucatoAlthough I have set it to 2, and it works as advertised02:20
MiiiJucato: yes and because of that i didnt get everything i wanted.they was downloading all together02:20
pramodi already started the two downloads...02:20
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mooperHi I have these 2 stipy bands on my screens, seems like the opposite colour to whats on the screen. They are about 1 inch from the bottom. a joining the right edge of the screen. They do not appear in screen capture. any Ideas ?? on kubuntu feisty. ATI sapphire X1650 PRO dual head. the bands are about 30 pixels high and 200 pixels wide. Mouse runs over the glitch normally02:21
se7enof9somebody got compiz working on gutsy?02:21
pramodthen changed the limits... and it kept downloading lol02:21
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Sin_Citadellet me clarify, for e.g, i have to install 20 packages, apt-get install pk1 pk2 pk3 .... , when apt-get works, it download pk1, then pk2, and only then pk3, after that it installs it, is there a way i could configure my config file so that apt download at least 3 packages simultaneously, and not 1 by 1.02:22
Sin_Citadelcan anyone help?02:22
pramodwat is compiz???? i think i have wored with it before without knowing wat it is lol02:22
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JucatoSin_Citadel: I'm not exactly sure where that option would be02:22
Jucato!compiz | pramod02:22
ubotupramod: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects02:22
=== Miii oh my i have to go to work.laters people tonigh at 6:20 i'll be back to play wii whit u all
Jucatopramod: compiz and beryl have re-merged (n a way)02:22
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Sin_Citadelin the apt config file, 70debconf02:23
xp_killerB02:23
xp_killerY02:23
xp_killerE02:23
pramodah okie...02:23
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Sin_Citadeli am not a network specialist, so i couldnt make heads or tails about queue-mode, and host|access etc02:23
JucatoSin_Citadel: /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ that file is there02:23
Sin_Citadelyea02:23
JucatoI don't know the exact option though02:23
se7enof9my windows manager keeps crashing with compiz any one the same problem02:23
Sin_Citadelcan u please check it02:24
Jucatohail the borg!02:24
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JucatoSin_Citadel: check what? the option isn't there02:24
se7enof9:)02:24
Jucatoand like I said, I don't know where the option would be set02:24
Sin_Citadelall right02:24
Jucatose7enof9: try asking in #ubuntu-effects02:24
Sin_Citadelthanks anyways02:24
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Jucatolots of crazy people there02:24
Jucatoer.. I meant compiz users02:24
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HiGenixGreetings guys, Fairly new to linux, how do I make a program (Yakuake) start when I log in?02:25
LankenHiGenix: konqueror > go > autostart02:26
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pramodokay friend... c ya all...02:26
pramodwill come back with more queries...02:26
pramodfrankly Kubuntu Rocks...02:26
pramod;)02:26
LankenHiGenix: drag a shortcut to the application from the start menu to the ~/.kde/autostart/ directory02:26
HiGenixLanken: Thanks. :)02:27
Sin_CitadelLanken: can soft-links work?02:27
Lankendoes anyone know anything about using kubuntu from behind an http proxy?02:27
Sin_CitadelLanken: yes, i do02:27
LankenSin_Citadel: yeah, I think so...not sure which is better though.02:27
LankenSin_Citadel: I am behind an http proxy that requires authentication02:27
LankenSin_Citadel: I gave it the url and port number, but it's not prompting me to authenticate02:28
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Sin_CitadelSin_Citadel: goto system settings > network settings > proxy02:28
Sin_Citadelu can check the options there02:28
LankenSin_Citadel: yeah, did that.02:28
Sin_Citadelu have ntlm?02:28
Lankennot sure02:28
Lankenwhat's that?02:29
Sin_Citadelits a proxy auth scheme, there are basic, digest , and ntlm02:29
Lankenoh...so it's an attribute of the proxy server program?02:29
Sin_Citadelanywho02:29
LankenI'm not sure which it's using02:29
Sin_Citadelcan u get konqueror to work?02:29
sitohelloW!02:30
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LankenSin_Citadel: yes02:30
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snellpojkei get an error when i try to start ubuntu or install ubuntu then it say reboot02:30
sitowhere is the file: /etc/inittab in kubuntu?02:30
snellpojkeit work fine on my laptop02:31
Sin_CitadelLanken: so , u can use konqueror to use internet ehindthe proxy , right?02:31
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LankenSin_Citadel: apparently so...although I don't recall giving it my password...02:31
LankenSin_Citadel: anyway, konversation doesn't seem to be aware of the http proxy02:31
Sin_Citadelu must have, konqueror  must've saved it the first time u accessed the internet02:32
LankenSin_Citadel: also kopete...02:32
Sin_CitadelLanken: nothing will work02:32
Sin_CitadelLanken: do u have a socks proxy set up on ur server?02:32
Lankenit's not mine, it's a university02:32
Lanken(actually a boarding school in Shanghai)02:32
Sin_CitadelLanken: do they have socks set up?02:32
Sin_CitadelLanken: port 108002:32
LankenI don't know.02:32
Lanken(the http server is strangly on port 3128, by the way)02:33
Sin_Citadelwell, u can make konversation/kopete/any app. work with socks, but http doesnt work on most apps.02:33
Lankenaha.02:33
Sin_CitadelLanken: i recommend u use pidgin02:33
Lankenmaybe I'll be stuck with the gnome equivalents.02:34
Lankenyeha...02:34
Lankenerm "yeah"02:34
Sin_CitadelLanken: for chattings, it has options for http proxy and password auths02:34
LankenSin_Citadel: yep, that's what I used on windows.  xchat supports http proxies too.02:34
Sin_Citadelyeah, u can use that, since many apps on kubuntu doesnt have proxy options02:35
Lanken"kubuntu" heh...I'm used to thinking of it as kde02:35
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JuJuBee_!ati02:51
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:51
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Squidyerr.. my audio device doesn't work after upgrade to gutsy :(02:53
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stdinSquidy: gutsy help in #ubuntu+102:53
Squidystdin: ok.. thx02:54
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naught101more stupid questions: once a deb-src package is installed (ie. kmilo), how do I find out where the files are stored?02:54
usuariohola02:54
stdinnaught101: when you "apt-get source" a package, it's placed in the directory you ran it from02:54
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usuariospanish???02:54
stdin!es | usuario02:54
ubotuusuario: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.02:54
naught101oh, bugger.02:55
naught101stdin: is it possible to undo that, or do I just have to delete it manually?02:55
stdinnaught101: you have to delete it manually, the directory, orig.tar.gz, .dsc and .diff.gz02:56
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naught101ahh! that's cool... I thought for a minute there it had just downloaded and extracted it all to my home directory :)02:56
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dthackerHi, I'm preparing a handout on Windows equivalents for a Gutsy release party.  What would you say Krita is equivalent to?  Probably not full blown photoshop?02:59
Jucatothere's no exact equivalent imho02:59
JucatoKrita does some stuff that photoshop can't, and can't do stuff that photoshop can. it's not a photoshop clone, that's for sure03:00
stdinmore like those little apps you get on a CD when you buy a digital camera03:00
JucatoKrita is probably closer to Corel Pain than Photoshop03:00
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dthackerthat might work....03:00
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dthackerthank you03:01
Jucatobut why focus on app X being an equivalent of app Y? why not focus on the amazing features of app X from the start? :)03:01
stdin!comprehensive03:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about comprehensive - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:01
stdinopps03:01
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stdin!equivalents03:01
ubotuA comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant03:01
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dthackerstdin. thanks.  I was looking here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsApplicationsEquivalents but it's gnome-centric03:02
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naught101mmmm.... I like this deb-src thinngy03:03
Jucatoinstead of saying "KWord is like MS Word", say "KWord is a frame-based word processor that lets you produce beautiful documents and layouts. It also supports an ISO standard document format"03:03
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stdinI *may* rewrite that page too, but not right now03:03
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Jucatos/*may*/*will*/03:04
geniiJucato: Yeah, once you start telling ppl "This program is like Word" or so, then they get frustrated when it won't save as .doc by default, or similar03:04
Jucatoand they start thinking of that app as MS Word...03:05
Jucatothey try to use it as MS Word03:05
geniiYup03:05
stdins/*will*/should get Jucato to/ ;)03:05
Jucatoand hate it like MS Word03:05
Jucatoheh03:05
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stdinor find someone who actually likes rewriting wiki entries03:06
HiGenixHey guys, noob question, in the shell, how do you make cp include directories? I keep getting the message "cp: omittiing directory 'directoryname'.03:06
Chousukecp -r03:06
HiGenixOk, thanks. :)03:06
Chousuke(recursive)03:06
stdin!man03:06
geniiHiGenix: If you need to keep permissions intact use also -p03:06
ubotuThe "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal03:07
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HiGenixOooh, should have tried there first. Sorry, didn't know it existed. Thanks for the help. :)03:07
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JucatoHiGenix: there's man:/ in Konqueror to make it fancier too03:08
Jucatoman:/cp for example03:08
geniistdin: sometimes i wonder if there is a way to make man <command>   run instead of <command> the very first time they use it03:08
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stdinJucato: hmm, maybe someone should add that info to !man ?03:08
stdinJucato: or man-#kubuntu03:08
geniiJucato: I sense stdin is trying to recruit03:09
genii;)03:09
W8TAHwhen downloading new wallpapers for kubuntu -- where does one stash them to do it properly?03:09
Jucato!man | stdin03:10
ubotustdin: The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or type man:/ in Konqueror's location bar. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal03:10
stdin:)03:10
geniiJucato: Now when are you going to fix that wiki? LOL03:11
Jucatonever :)03:11
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pramodhow can we mount virtual drives on kubuntu?03:12
stdinyou can always try it genii ;)03:12
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stdinpramod: virtual drives? you mean like ISOs?03:12
tzangerheh I've got an interesting problem03:12
pramodyeah03:12
stdin!iso | pramod03:12
ubotupramod: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.03:12
tzangerfglrx driver...  dualscreen set up, openoffice crashes on screen 1 but not on screen 003:12
tzangeralso, my menu hotkeys (I define alt-` to bring up a konsole shell, for example) work on screen 1 but not on screen 003:13
stdingenii: I've already tackled the nvidia and ati pages, I'm worn out :p03:13
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tzangerI've got the ear of the "next generation" of ATI driver developers, and I'd like to help the community by acting as a point-man between xorg and ati03:14
pramodwat does <mountpoint> mean?03:14
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Jucatostdin: wait for my next spurge of writing-mania...03:15
stdinpramod: where you want to mount it03:15
pramodah okie...03:15
pramodthanx....03:15
geniistdin: The "WhatWindowsUsersWant" page?03:15
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stdingenii: I was thinking of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsApplicationsEquivalents  (as it really only lists gnome apps)03:16
Lynouregenii: an OS that "everyone else" uses too03:16
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Lynouregenii: (this based on an overheard conversation between a geeky bookstore clerk and less geeky one, about using Mac)03:17
stdingenii: but any page that needs some KDE love :)03:17
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dthackerI'm willing to add KDE equivs to that page if it's ok with doc folks03:17
geniiHmm03:17
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dthackerI'll ask them.  Don't want to get too OT in here03:18
stdindthacker: go for it if you want, it is a wiki after all :)03:18
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geniistdin: I'll tinker with it some later today03:18
dthackerbetter to ask forgiveness than permission :)03:18
Jucatodthacker: it's a wiki...03:19
dthackerok'03:20
Jucatoanyone who has an account can edit it03:20
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Jucatoand don't worry, once you do, it sends an e-mail to the authorities telling what you did. so they will know regardless :)03:20
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ozehkahey, somehow my locale settings in kde (english) do not match with the output of "locale" in terminal (de-DE)03:22
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geniistdin: Is ubuntuforums login also good for launchpad? i forget if i even have a launchpad account03:25
stdindon't think so03:26
geniiOk03:26
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ozehkaany help?03:26
stdinozehka: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales" maybe03:28
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geniiHeh, i had an account and didn't remember LOL.03:29
Jucatogenii: nope03:30
ozehkastdin: they still don't match03:30
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stdinozehka: maybe "sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup" you'll have to logout and back in after03:33
ozehkaokay03:33
marucohi guys I need some serious help03:34
marucoI don't kjnow how it happened03:34
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marucobut my Kubuntu become crap03:34
marucoI cannot log on except for the recovery session03:34
marucoand I need to give startx to have a graphical interface03:34
marucootherwise I cannot use anthing03:35
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marucouf I enter normally I receive a error message that telles me to check the installation03:35
marucoI tried reinstallig kde03:35
marucobut I now I got the 3.5 version03:35
marucoI would like to upgrade to kubuntu 7.10 and see how it works03:35
marucoso, please tell me03:35
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marucoshould I only change feisty into Gutsy"?03:36
maruco...03:37
marucocan anybody help me?03:37
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hasanhow can i chop two times ?03:38
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hasanperl -wle 'print chop($a=<>)'03:38
ozehkastdin: hmm, maybe you can tell me, where are these settings saved?03:38
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stdinozehka: I think the main setting is in /etc/environment03:40
hydrogenhasan: #perl03:40
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ozehkastdin: hmm, doesn't contain the LC_*** stuff03:41
ozehkaPATH and LANG only03:41
stdinLANG is the main one afaik03:41
stdinthat an LC_ALL03:41
bazhangmaruco: you want to install gutsy beta?03:42
marucoyeah03:42
bazhangmaruco: upgrade or fresh install?03:42
marucowell03:42
ozehkastdin: i somehow believe that there are settings for the KDE and for the bash03:42
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marucoI downloaded the CD and it doesen't work: I just get a blue debian wallpaper with the mouse icon moving03:43
marucoso I would like to upgrade03:43
bazhangmaruco: I personally feel that Gutsy is way more stable than Feisty, and it's only beta.03:43
marucook03:43
marucocan u help me to upgrade03:43
hydrogen#ubuntu+103:43
hydrogenread the topic03:44
bazhangmaruco: some other users have been just upgrading from Feisty, starting with Tribe 1 (alpha).03:44
marucoshould I just change "feisty" into "gutsy" in the repositories?03:44
bazhangmaruco: if you want to go over to #ubuntu +1, then I can help you; sorry hydrogen!03:44
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bazhangmaruco: just choose 'join channel' in Konversation, then enter the channel name #ubuntu +103:45
bazhangmaruco: oops sorry, that's #ubuntu+1 (no space).03:45
marucoI entered it03:46
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Mr_Sonoma!grub errors03:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about grub errors - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:57
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stdin!grub03:58
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto03:58
Mr_Sonomawhat's grub error 13 mean??03:58
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stdintry looking at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28254503:59
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Mr_Sonomaok thanks04:02
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khatahnis it a known problem that when running firefox under kubuntu sometimes the page contents doesn't change (for example after clicking a link) until you resize the firefox window?04:14
stdinno04:15
ozehkakhatahn: I used to have that problem recently too04:15
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khatahni've had the problem on multiple machines since Kubuntu Dapper or something04:15
khatahnand i've always made a clean install when new kubuntu has come out04:15
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stdinhave you at least reported this on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu ?04:16
Ingeniero_35Hola Amigos soy nuevos por estos lados04:17
vmlinuz`Hey, how to change to "double click" instead of "single click"04:17
stdin!es | Ingeniero_3504:17
ubotuIngeniero_35: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.04:17
stdinvmlinuz`: system settings > keyboard & mouse > mouse04:17
Jucatostdin: what a coincidence.. someone asked the same question in the other room :)04:18
vmlinuz`stdin: there is no "keyboerd & mouse" in settings04:18
stdinheh, so I see04:18
stdinvmlinuz`: how about just mouse?04:19
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JucatoSystem Settings04:19
khatahnstdin: i think i've seen it mentioned on the forums sometimes, but no, i haven't really reported it there. it's hard to explain and even harder to reproduce (sometimes it happens all the time, sometimes everything is fine for a long time) so i'm not sure the report would help much04:19
vmlinuz`stdin: neg04:19
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Jucatovmlinuz`: are you sure you're looking in the System Settings application?04:19
stdinvmlinuz`: what version of kubuntu do you have?04:19
vmlinuz`stdin: hm, I have ubuntu installed, then i got kde installed.04:20
vmlinuz`Jucato: yea i'm sure.04:20
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stdinkhatahn: it's still best to report it04:20
Jucatovmlinuz`: ah. Control Center -> Peripherals -> Mouse04:20
stdinvmlinuz`: did you at least install "kubuntu-desktop" and not "kde" ?04:20
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vmlinuz`Jucato: I don't have "peripherals"04:20
vmlinuz`stdin: I did "kubuntu-desktop"04:20
Jucatowhen all else fails.. "kcmshell mouse" :)04:21
Jucatoin Konsole or Alt+F2 :D04:21
stdinso what version of ubuntu do you have?04:21
Jucatotake it away stdin :)04:21
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DaSkreechstdin: Sorry what's the issue?04:22
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stdinJucato: by "work" I guess you mean "have a chat in the \"other\" channel" ;)04:22
Jucatono. as in work04:22
vmlinuz`hm I remember a command to run the configuration. to choose MAc mode, KDE mode, or windows mode. and then chose how it should look like.. anybody remember the command?04:23
stdinDaSkreech: huh? I have no issue04:23
DaSkreechWith the mouse and keyboard?04:23
stdinooh, vmlinuz` doesn't have a mouse or "keyboard & mouse" section in system settings04:24
vmlinuz`stdin: yea I don't.04:24
vmlinuz`stdin: please tell me the command, to re-configure. you know the configuration that pops up when you first run KDE04:24
stdinvmlinuz`: you mean kpersonalizer ?04:24
vmlinuz`yep thanks04:25
DaSkreechDoes anyone?04:25
stdindoes anyone what? have that section?04:26
DaSkreechoh hey I do have that04:27
DaSkreechwhen did that get there?04:27
DaSkreechI used to have just a mouse and keyboard was under language I think04:27
stdinfeisty and up iirc04:27
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hnetholaaaa04:39
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stdin!es04:40
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.04:40
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Roeyhi04:41
RoeyI opened a file in JED and I see all these lines starting with ^I.  How do I automatically convert these to tabs?04:41
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savetheWorldRoey: those ARe tabs.04:41
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savetheWorld^i means control-i, which is asci value 8, or "TAB"04:42
RoeysavetheWorld:  yeah I know04:42
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RoeysavetheWorld:  but why do they show as ^I's in jed04:42
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savetheWorldmust besomething to do with JED, perhaps an option ora configuration issue?04:42
savetheWorldanyway %ed: To become an advanced *NIX user, use the vi/vim or emacs editors, they teach things useful in the shell, awk, sed, perl, and other shell tools that speed your way up the learning curve and they are more widely avaiable. See http://tinyurl.com/82j4s04:42
Roeyhmm, alright04:42
RoeysavetheWorld:  er ok.  I hate vi personally.  I'm an emacs keybindings nut ;)04:43
savetheWorldavoid JEd, JOE, Kate nano etc.04:43
savetheWorldemacs is a fine choice04:43
bazhanghaha04:43
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Roeyoh, right, I could use kate.04:44
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savetheWorldbazhang: please note that advice is only for people who want to become advanced *NIX users.  regular desktop users who want to just use their computer for their normal non-techie jobs should just use whatever editor they want.04:44
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RoeysavetheWorld:  emacs is a bloated pig imo04:45
Roeythat's why I use jed04:45
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RoeyI just really care for them keybindings04:45
Lankenthe ntfs partition on my external hard drive isn't mounting.04:45
Lankendolphin says hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 100004:45
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stdingutsy help in #ubuntu+104:46
savetheWorldemacs is much more than an editor.  its so powerful it can be used as an integrated IDE, and mail system and web server al at the same time. as for size. - hmm - its not very big.04:46
stdinand you don't have to use vi/emacs to be an "advanced *NIX user"04:46
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bazhangsavetheWorld: sorry!04:47
savetheWorldstdin: yo uan I will definitely have to disagreeabout that one. or perhaps our definitions of advanced are different. :-) (I suspect they are)04:47
savetheWorld*you and04:47
vmlinuz`how to change character language in browser? I have arabic installed, but with no SCRIM. how can i change from english to arabic. Alt+shift doesn't seem to work04:48
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stdinhow can the tool you use reflect you knowledge level, that doesn't make sense to me04:48
crittercan someone help me get dual monitors working?  I read the stuff from ! ati and have it kind of working, but the left side of my monitor ( about 1 inch) is not showing on the overhead projector.04:49
stdinif I don't use vim does it mean I don't know about sed, awk, perl or other shell tools?04:49
stdin!dualhead | critter04:49
ubotucritter: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama04:49
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DaSkreech!emacs04:50
ubotuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code04:50
savetheWorldstdin: hmm, I see. well the fact that you think that is part of your problem. Here is an exercise to help you: compare the differences in knowledge required to use assembly language versus BASIC04:50
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stdinsavetheWorld: doesn't matter, an editor does not a power user make04:51
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phoenixzHi there! How can I disable all beeps comming from a terminal?04:51
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stdinphoenixz: in Konsole, Settings > Bell > None04:52
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DaSkreechBeep!04:52
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savetheWorldstdin: You may need to expand your view of what an editor can do. In fact you definitely need to be less narrow minded.04:52
JuJuBee_Sorry, kopete crashed on me... I was asking about why the left side of my screen wont show (about 1 inch) on the projector.  ATI dual head...04:52
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JuJuBee_I did not get the reply.04:53
savetheWorldphoenixz: what application/shell are  you using when you get the beeps?04:53
stdinsavetheWorld: that's not my point, it's not about any particular tool04:53
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JuJuBee_I read the info provide by ! ati and got my monitor showing on the projector.04:54
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DaSkreechstderr :)04:54
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DaltonHi all, I am just starting with kubuntu, so I do not know all the ways that this particular distribution does things.   Could someone tell me the proper way to allow a user to mount drives (such as usb drives) via the mount command?  mount responds that only root can do that and I do not want to have to sudo every time I mount/unmount media.04:54
stdin!dualhead | JuJuBee_, seen this?04:54
ubotuJuJuBee_, seen this?: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama04:54
savetheWorldstdin: I'll give you one more chance to break your mind free.  Why are some tools morelimiting than others? Give specific contrasting examples and explain why one is more limiting or not.04:55
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DaSkreechDalton: add users to the mount point you want as an option04:55
DaSkreechsavetheWorld: What?04:55
fabiogoodevening04:55
savetheWorldDaSkreech: see the scrollback04:55
DaSkreechsavetheWorld: He was saying that you can be a very high end power user and prefer a simpler tool just as a matter of choice04:55
fabiois possible to use open source driver on a ati x1600?04:55
DaltonHey DaSkreech, please give more details04:56
fabioor i must use fglrx driver (so only Xgl) ?04:56
DaSkreechsavetheWorld: not using emacs/vim/kdevelop makes you no less knowledgeable04:56
stdinsavetheWorld: like I said, it's not about a particular tool. just because you don't use a certain tool doesn't mean you can't be an advanced user04:56
JuJuBee_No, I have not, but doesnt ubuntu use x11 not xfree86?04:56
pippohi all, I have the last kubuntu. Firstly I've installe some packages from adept installer, but now it says me :"Another processi is using the packaging system database..... please close the application", but I can't find... I tryed to reboot, but nothing04:56
DaSkreechfabio: Yes.04:56
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DaSkreechfabio: you will have no accelration04:56
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stdinJuJuBee_: they are similar enough to make the information relevant04:57
SurgerIs there any place where I can find a live version of Kubuntu Fesity online? Sort of like a virtual machine running Kubuntu on a web page?04:57
savetheWorldstdin, um - OK, that, of course has nothing to do with how fast a tool helps you climb the learning curve.   Perhaps you meant to talk to someone else.04:57
stdin!aptfix | pippo04:57
ubotupippo: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 04:57
fabioDaSkreech: so, i can install open source driver, use it, install aiglx and beryl?04:57
pippothanks04:57
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DaSkreechDalton: if you look at the mount points in /etc/fstab you have an options section add the word users to the mount point you wnat users to be able to mount04:58
stdinsavetheWorld: no, I meant that for you. you said that you have to use vi to be an advanced *NIX user, that's just not right04:58
savetheWorldstdin: please dont lie.04:58
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DaSkreechfabio: Sure. they won't work04:58
stdinexcuse me ?04:58
Jucato!offtopic04:58
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!04:58
DaSkreechbut you can do that04:58
savetheWorldstdin: go read the original statement again.04:58
savetheWorld%ed: To become an advanced *NIX user, use the vi/vim or emacs editors, they teach things useful in the shell, awk, sed, perl, and other shell tools that speed your way up the learning curve and they are more widely avaiable. See http://tinyurl.com/82j4s04:58
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doboam i supposed to run apache with sudo??! that seems risky, but it's denied access to files it needs otherwise!04:59
savetheWorldno where in there does it say "have to"04:59
pippothanks so muck stdin04:59
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pippostdin: I've solved, thanks04:59
savetheWorldstdin i see that you are part of that class of people who like to make up things and then claim that other people have said them.  Thats very troll like.05:00
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DaSkreechsavetheWorld: calm down05:00
savetheWorldstdin: you can retract or apologize now, thanks.05:00
JuJuBee_stdin : i have cloning working, but part of my desktop is not appearing on the projector screen.  My config looks very similar to the one described in the link with the exception of the xinerama stuff05:00
DaSkreechsavetheWorld: a) this is offtopic05:00
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DaSkreechsavetheWorld: b) let it go05:00
BluesKajhowdy all :)05:00
stdinsavetheWorld: if you want to continue the conversation, join me in #kubuntu-offtopic05:00
savetheWorldDaSkreech: I'm perfectly calm.05:00
DaSkreechsavetheWorld: a misunderstanding is just that05:00
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savetheWorldstdin: You go ahead, just next time PLEASE try to READ and UNDERSTAND what you are talking about05:01
savetheWorldDaSkreech: it would be if this were the first time he had made it.05:01
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stdinalso, personal attacks, that's troll like behaviour. now I'll end the conversation05:01
DaltonHey DaSkreech, that's what I thought you ment.  Unfortunately, I had already tried that.  The user has the rights to the directory but once they mount the drive, the directory becomes owned by root:root - thus the user can mount the drive, but not use it.....05:01
bazhangBluesKaj: howdy!05:02
BluesKajhi bazhang05:02
savetheWorldstdin: its not a personal attack to ask someone to not lie, and its not a personal attack to ask someone to address that actual point being made.05:03
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stdinI've already ended the conversation, there will be no more responses (unless you join #kubuntu-offtopic )05:04
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savetheWorldstdin: go ahead without me. I've made my points.05:05
dobo:( can anyone help me with apache2!05:05
DaltonDaSkreech, did you see my last query?05:06
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tarek__hi i want to install my nvidia graphic card how can i do that05:07
stdin!nvidia05:07
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:07
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BluesKajbazhang, Taipei eh , I recognized the IP address cuz my son taught english there for 9yrs :)05:08
tarek__k thanks05:08
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JuJuBee_Anybody provide some assistance with my ati video issue (left inch or so not showing up on projector screen)/05:08
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bazhangBluesKaj: yup! Cheers!05:09
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BluesKajuhm JuJuBee , could it be a function of your projector not showing the whole input signal05:12
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phoenixzstdin, savetheWorld, Im using Yakuake, which is really nice, but there is no option to make it shut up05:14
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phoenixzYakuake is a terminal emulator that you can hide and unhide with F12.. really nice and all it only lacks some configuration05:15
stdinphoenixz: hmm, strange. yakuake makes no sound for me05:15
phoenixzspecially bell thing is annoying as hell05:15
phoenixzstdin, using tab auto completion for example05:15
phoenixznnggghh05:15
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stdinphoenixz: yeah, I get no sound at all, maybe someone in #yakuake knows more about it05:16
phoenixzstdin, it has its own channel? cool.. :)05:16
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JuJuBee_What is the bot comand for fixing screen resolution?05:17
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stdin!resolution05:17
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:17
JuJuBee_Thanks05:17
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Jucatophoenixz: yakuake uses the same style of settings as konsole05:17
Jucatophoenixz: you can even use the same settings that konsole uses05:17
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savetheWorldphoenixz: sorry, was afk.  i'm not familiar with Yakuake.  What is it?05:25
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xenolwhats yakuake?05:25
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Jucatoxenol: it's a Quake-like Konsole05:26
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DaSkreech!ykuake05:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ykuake - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:26
DaSkreech!yakuake05:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about yakuake - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:26
DaSkreech!info yakuake05:26
Jucatoit's constantly running in the background and drops down from the screen with a hotkey05:26
ubotuyakuake: a Quake-style terminal emulator based on KDE Konsole technology. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.5-4ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 73 kB, installed size 512 kB05:26
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xenolthx.05:27
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geniiJust FYI yakuake is no longer being supported by it's developer. The home page was last updated sometime in mid 200505:27
Jucatogenii: are you sure?05:28
geniiJucato: Yes05:28
Jucatogenii: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Yakuake?content=2915305:28
DaSkreechgenii: Funny new one just shipped05:28
Jucatohe just released 2.8 the other day :)05:28
Jucatogenii: did you confuse "Submitted" with "Updated"? :)05:29
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geniiMaybe someone else has now taken it over. I'll try to find the page i mean05:29
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geniihttp://yakuake.uv.ro/05:31
DaSkreechgenii: Isn't open source great :)05:32
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Jucatogenii: the maintainer of Konversation has been in charge since 200605:32
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RivaeAeryadoes anybody know some good KDE apps that are not included by default that are very handy for everyday use? (such as yaquake, a note-taking program, bookmarks thing, konqueror extensions.. etc)05:32
DaSkreechYakuake konversation basket kdissert pop to mind05:32
bazhangfrozen bubble?05:32
DaSkreechShhhh05:32
geniiJucato: Ah OK :)05:32
DaSkreechI'm trying to be productive05:32
bazhanghaha05:33
JucatoDaSkreech: konvi is in by default though05:33
bazhangthat's why you're here all the time...05:33
DaSkreechin KDE ?05:33
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RivaeAeryaDaSkreech: hmm any more?05:33
bazhangIs soundjuicer KDE?05:33
Jucatogenii: btw, http://yakuake.kde.org (but barely any content yet)05:33
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DaSkreechRivaeAerya: you can open adept and drag in a KDE debtag to see only KDE apps05:34
cameliakubuntu-es05:34
DaSkreech!es05:34
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:34
RivaeAeryaDaSkreech: kde debtag? wha?05:35
DaSkreechRivaeAerya: You have adept open?05:35
RivaeAeryaDaSkreech: yep05:36
bazhangwhat is the soundjuicer equivalent for KDE? K3b?05:36
geniiThe main thing is that someone is still working on it and supporting it.05:36
DaSkreechok on the three tabs at the far right click on all05:36
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emilsedghbazhang: what does soundjuicer do?05:37
bazhangemilsedgh: rips audio cds05:37
stdink3b or just audiocd:/ from konqueror can do that05:38
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bazhangstdin: thanks!05:38
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emilsedghstdin: audiocd io slave rocks!05:38
DaSkreechRivaeAerya: under the heading Suite drag the section KDE into tags you ant05:38
Jucato!ripping05:39
ubotuTo rip an Audio CD in KDE, put it in and then put audiocd:// in the Konqueror URL bar; it's configurable in system settings. Also see http://tinyurl.com/2x7qsh05:39
stdinemilsedgh: yep :)05:39
DaSkreechnow everything there is a KDE app05:39
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RivaeAeryaDaSkreech: only says emacs, no kde05:39
bazhangcan anyone call ubotu?05:39
stdinyeah05:39
bazhangthanks!05:39
DaSkreechRivaeAerya: under the tab All?05:39
DaSkreechSmart|Simple|All05:40
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RivaeAeryaDaSkreech: yeah, looked there. Under suite, no kde05:41
DaSkreechThat's Funky :)05:42
DaSkreechDo you have UI toolkit?05:42
RivaeAeryaDaSkreech: yep05:42
DaSkreechDoes it have qt ?05:42
RivaeAeryayes05:42
DaSkreechOk drag that over05:42
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DaSkreechThat should give you a close approximation05:43
DaSkreechHmm I wonder where the KDE tag is hiding05:43
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JucatoDaSkreech: perhaps there aren't any05:45
Jucatooh wait found it05:46
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DaSkreechI've almost always had them05:46
DaSkreechWhat is it under?05:46
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JucatoDaSkreech: : All -> [suite]  Application Suite05:46
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DaSkreechYeah05:46
DaSkreechRivaeAerya: You have emacs under suite ?05:46
doboi'm hosting my own perl scripts, and when i try to view/run them in firefox, it tries to get me to download them instead!05:46
RivaeAeryaDaSkreech: yep05:46
dobodoes anyone have suggestions?? i'm using apache2 :(05:47
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DaSkreechdobo: You don't have the filetype setup properly in apache I'd guess05:47
DaSkreechdobo: you can ask in #apache05:47
dobothanks!05:47
DaSkreechRivaeAerya: and that has one entry?05:47
RivaeAeryaDaSkreech: emacs is the entry under suite05:47
DaSkreechRivaeAerya: the only one?05:47
RivaeAeryaDaSkreech: yep05:48
Dr_willis'there can be only one!' :)05:48
DaSkreechRivaeAerya: under the all tab?05:48
RivaeAeryaDaSkreech: yep05:48
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DaSkreechRivaeAerya: I dunno man that makes no sense05:50
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pippohi all, I have a problem, firstly I used ubuntu, but now in kubuntu my wireless can't find the router05:53
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=== DaSkreech grrs at knetworkmanager
pippowith ubuntu I connected my router05:53
pippobut in kubuntu is impossible05:53
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DaSkreechI don't think it's impossible05:54
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DaSkreech does it have any security on it?05:54
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pippoI think not05:54
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pippoif I boot with ubuntu live cd my wireless is present05:54
pippoin kubuntu not05:54
pippohardware is ok05:55
DaSkreechpippo: when you right clikc on the network manager do you see a list of wireless networks?05:55
pippoit says wireless networks not found05:55
pippoin ubuntu instead I can find my netword05:55
pipponetwork05:55
DaSkreech*blinks(05:55
pippois it strange?05:55
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DaSkreechcan you open a konsole and type sudo iwlist scan05:55
pippoit say interface don't support scanning05:56
pippono sorry05:56
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pippoeht105:56
pippono found05:56
pipporesult05:56
pippoit is strange05:57
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pippoin ubuntu I can05:57
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pippoI have to reinstall kubuntu ?05:57
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pippohmmm05:58
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bazhangpippo: maybe just stick with ubuntu for now? are you using Feisty?05:59
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pippoI am using kubuntu, I don't know what is feisty06:00
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corneliuhy06:00
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corneliuwho can help me in configuring an irda device ?06:00
bazhanghi06:00
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BluesKajfeisty is the latest version of kubuntu/ubuntu06:00
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pippoi have the latest version.. yes06:01
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bazhangpippo: Feisty is release 7.04; next one (in twelve days) is Gutsy.06:01
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pippoI have 7.0406:01
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pippoI'll see06:01
pippothanks for your help06:01
bazhangno problem!06:02
corneliuplease06:02
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corneliusome help with an irda :((06:02
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pippois it possible to reinstall knetworkmanager downloading the package?06:03
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bazhangpippo: in my experience, knetworkmanager has been problematic under Feisty; under Gutsy I've had much better luck.06:04
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geniiJucato: someone pointed the current maintainer to me LOL ...<eyeballs you suspiciously>06:05
pippois gutsy the feature release of kubuntu?06:05
JucatoO.o06:05
bazhangpippo: future?06:05
Jucatogenii: what did he say?06:05
pipposorry for my bad english06:05
pippothe next release06:05
bazhangyes06:05
Jucatopippo: yes. it will be released on 18 October06:06
bazhangdue in twelve days, beta version out now06:06
pippook I will wait for its06:06
bazhangbut very stable now...06:06
geniiJucato: Basically letting me know not to get confused by the old website and plugging the new release06:06
Jucatohahah!06:06
BluesKaj<---running gutsy with no problems so far , pippo06:06
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pippothanls06:06
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pippothanks06:07
Jucatogenii: so are you going to use it now? :D06:07
DaSkreechgenii: Phear him!06:07
bazhangpippo: you should try it! It rocks.06:07
geniiJucato: i may go back to using it, yes06:07
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geniiDaSkreech: LOL06:07
Jucatogenii: kool! :)06:08
Jucatoand if you're using konversation too... kooler :)06:08
DaSkreechgen06:08
DaSkreechgenii: The abilty to split stuff is brilliant06:08
bazhanghaha06:08
DaSkreech I can monitor thigns at work while doing other useful stuff or spodding06:08
geniiThe 2.8 release has been uploaded and will make it into Oct18 release, he is telling me now06:09
JucatoDaSkreech, genii and you can do instant split or quad views06:09
bazhangwhat's spodding?06:09
DaSkreechpippo: iwlist eth1 scan produces noting ?06:09
DaSkreechJucato: quad views?06:09
JucatoDaSkreech: yes. like quadkonsole06:10
pippoit says no scan result06:10
DaSkreechHow/06:10
DaSkreechpippo: that's very strange06:10
JucatoDaSkreech: hold down on the "new tab" button and a menu pops up06:10
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DaSkreechthere is a new tab button?06:10
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pippoI know, with ubuntu no problem, I think there is a problem during installing06:10
DaSkreechhahahahahahahahahaha06:10
JucatoDaSkreech: yes06:10
DaSkreechI'm so filled with joy it's not funny :)06:11
Jucatowith that option/button?06:11
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DaSkreechYeah06:11
Jucato:D06:12
DaSkreechapt-get remove quadkonsole --purge in process06:12
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DaSkreech!wifi | pippo06:12
ubotupippo: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:12
pippothanks06:12
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DaSkreechCan you tell me where that walkthrough fails for you06:13
pippook06:13
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Silveira_NetoI installed kubuntu in my desktop computer. Now how I enable 3d efects in the desktop? Which package I have to install with adept?06:13
bazhangSilveira_Neto: compizconfig settings manager06:13
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stdin!ubuntu-effects | Silveira_Neto06:14
ubotuSilveira_Neto: For help with 3d desktop effects applications or drivers please join #ubuntu-effects, someone there will be glad to help you. You can read http://forum.beryl-project.org/ for most common problems or questions.06:14
Silveira_Netobazhangm,thanks.06:14
bazhangSilveira_Neto: sure.06:15
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Silveira_NetoBut, I can have the same fx in the KDE as the Gnome? When I use the ubuntu livecd, I can enable the 3d effects and use them in the moment06:15
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bazhangSilveira_Neto: come on over to #ubuntu-effects06:16
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pippomy hardware is intel prowireless 220006:19
pipponow I try to update drivers06:19
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JuJuBee_How do I find out my horizsync and vertrefresh for my laptop display?06:19
zipperthe manual06:20
bazhanghaha06:21
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DaSkreechgenii: http://fosswire.com/2007/10/02/yakuake-a-drop-down-terminal-for-kde/06:25
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geniiDaSkreech: Nice, thanks06:27
DaSkreechsure06:27
JuJuBee_zipper : that would be good if it was listed in there, but it is not listed.06:28
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Ace_NoOneshould I download Kubuntu 7.04 or 7.10? .10 is beta!?06:30
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bazhang7.10!06:31
bazhangit's beta!06:31
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DaSkreechAce_NoOne: 7.10 would be nice if you want to help out06:31
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ChousukeAce_NoOne: 7.10 will be released soon.06:32
Chousukeso it might be safe to get the beta.06:32
DaSkreechAce_NoOne: If you have bandwidth to burn then 7.04 I guess06:32
Ace_NoOneDaSkreech: installing Kubuntu in a virtual machine to get familiar with Linux desktop use06:32
bazhangGet it now!  It's really stable Ace_NoOne06:32
Ace_NoOneLIES! ;P06:32
DaSkreechAce_NoOne: I'm running it now. No bad crashes06:33
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DaSkreechAce_NoOne: Virtual machine I would heartily recommend 7.1006:33
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DaSkreechAce_NoOne: Welcome to Kubuntu :)06:34
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Ace_NoOneDaSkreech: why does vm make a difference06:35
Ace_NoOnebecause it can't freeze me up?06:35
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DaSkreechAce_NoOne: No chance of it screwing you over06:35
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Ace_NoOneokay then, 7.10 it is06:35
DaSkreechPLus you can just full screen the VM and pretend it's your box06:35
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Ace_NoOnelol06:35
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poison--!ati06:36
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:36
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Squidyhey.. when i try to change my user photo in system settings i receive a message tha the administrator doesn't have permission to change the user image.. what happens?06:40
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ubotuenvy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!06:41
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wathekhello all06:42
DaSkreechSquidy: did you click adminstrator mode?06:43
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wathekI'm trying to install Kubuntu (I've downloaded the iso of the beta version yesterday) and it shows me downloading linguisitics packets (47:10) and nothing is happen06:43
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SquidyDaSkreech: there isn't an administration mode button in that screen06:44
DaSkreechSquidy: in system settings?06:44
wathekit's in 87% what could I do ?06:44
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SquidyDaSkreech: yes.. System Settings > Personal informations06:45
DaSkreechoh06:45
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SquidyIt just has Help | Default | Restart and Apply buttons06:45
DaSkreechSquidy: Ah06:45
DaSkreechSquidy: I changed that in Advanced -> Login Screen -> users06:46
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Dr_willisHmmm...  Apple updates 15" MacBook Pro battery firmware     --- batteries have Firmware?06:46
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SquidyDaSkreech: humm.. it looks like better06:47
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DaSkreechSquidy: Where would you use that in any case?06:49
SquidyDaSkreech: in kdm.. :)06:49
RivaeAeryawhere can i find a preview of the Oxygen QT4 style?06:49
DaSkreechSquidy: There you go then06:49
DaSkreechRivaeAerya: svn ? or #oxygen06:49
excitatoryquestion.. i'm currently using fesity with compiz-fusion from the trev1no feisty repository.. i realize that gutsy will have all of the fusion packages in its repos.. so before i upgrade, should i just remove the repository entry.. or remove the repo entry *and* remove the packages (to make way for the gutsy versions)... OR doesn't it matter, since the package names are, i assume, the same and thus the higher version numbers of the06:50
excitatorypackages will take priority and install over the trev1no packages?06:50
SquidyDaSkreech: thank you06:50
DaSkreechSure06:50
DaSkreechexcitatory: #ubuntu+106:50
excitatoryok06:50
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Ace_NoOneIs it still true that if I started out with Ubuntu, installing and switching to KDE can become messy?07:02
DaSkreechAce_NoOne: Only the menu07:03
Ace_NoOnewhich menu07:03
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DaSkreechAce_NoOne: Apps menu07:04
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Ace_NoOneah of course07:04
Ace_NoOnenow, suppose I install Kubuntu now, can I install KDE4 and easily switch back to 3.5?07:05
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bazhangAce_NoOne: kde 4 is unusable right now.07:05
Ace_NoOnebazhang: that's why I'm asking07:05
Dr_willisif its not useable.. why bother. :)07:06
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bazhangexactly07:06
DaSkreechAce_NoOne: Yes read the topic07:06
Dr_willisbest way to test kde4 is with a kde4 live cd. heh07:06
stdinAce_NoOne: it's installed separately, you have to explicitly start a kde4 session to use it (you can use the apps in a kde3 tho)07:06
Ace_NoOneDr_willis: I meant beta-testing KDE4 in general07:06
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Ace_NoOneoh cool07:06
DaSkreechAce_NoOne: Sure07:06
Ace_NoOnethanks people07:07
DaSkreechBeta 3 is out in a week or so so you may want to get comfy in KDe3 and wait that out07:07
Ace_NoOnesure07:07
stdinAce_NoOne: you can install the kde4 beta from gnome too, incase you were wondering07:07
DaSkreechshhhhh07:07
Ace_NoOnelol07:07
DaSkreechno gnome no gnome!07:07
Ace_NoOnethe only gnomes I adore are the Underpants Gnomes07:08
bazhangot coming...07:08
DaSkreechno gnome no gnome!!!!!07:08
DaSkreech:-D07:08
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bazhangstep 3: profit!07:09
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Ace_NoOneglad we all share that bit of Common Ground ;)07:09
DaSkreechha ha07:09
Ace_NoOne(otherwise I woulda looked like a weirdo)07:09
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WaltzingAlongthere are instructions on the kubuntu.org site for installing kde4 alongside kde3.5.x then running either07:14
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stdin!topic | WaltzingAlong07:14
ubotuWaltzingAlong: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic07:14
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stdinWaltzingAlong: I meant, it's in the topic too <07:15
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WaltzingAlongexactly07:16
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Bi0HazzZarDBoas brasileiros...07:18
stdin!br | Bi0HazzZarD07:19
ubotuBi0HazzZarD: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.07:19
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bazhangdoes Ubuntu have a topic for Chinese language?07:20
stdin!cn07:20
ubotuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk07:20
mikkaeli manually installed a webcam driver, since that my system needs 10 minutes to boot, spits out a lot of error messages. how do i remove that damn thing ? at the moment i just blacklisted it07:20
bazhangstdin: thanks!07:20
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stdinmikkael: "sudo make uninstall" from the source or (if that fails) delete the module. then run "sudo depmod -a"07:21
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mikkaelstdin: where do i find the module ?07:22
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donsdx"/topic" = TOPIC Not enough parameters07:23
stdinmikkael: it should have the module name in the error messages, or if you know it's name use "slocate <filename>"07:23
mikkaelyes i know its name, its sn9c10207:23
stdinmikkael: it should be a file called sn9c102.ko then07:24
stdinin /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/ somewhere07:24
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mikkaelwhats the command to delete a fikle in terminal "rm <filename>" ?07:25
geniimikkael: Yes07:25
RATTTwats the sudo command to completely remove  a program07:25
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stdinRATTT: sudo apt-get --purge remove <package>07:26
geniiRATTT: if apt-get was used to install it, then stdin's suggestion07:26
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RATTTthanx07:26
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mikkaelcan someone briefly explain what the commands: make clean, make modules and modprobe do :> ?07:27
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Dr_williscleand the source dir.,compiles,  then loads a module07:28
stdin"make clean" cleans the source, it removes the compiled files in the source; make modules compiled the module(s), modprobe attempts to load a module into the running kernal07:29
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Dr_willis'make <option>' normally one of ,clean,all,install07:29
mikkaelim so frustrated to not get my webcam to work07:29
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mikkael!paste07:30
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)07:30
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mikkaelhere is the textfile that comes with this driver: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39548/07:31
mikkaeli just cant get it work :/07:31
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mikkaelwell at least it's removed now properly, thanks for that stdin07:38
mikkaelbyebye07:38
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mikegimp is broken this morning? anyone else have this?07:40
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bazhangmike: fixed gimp by dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/gimp_2.4.0~rc3-1ubuntu5_i386.deb and apt-get -f install07:41
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kinkajousup d00des07:46
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bazhangkinkajou: hi07:47
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BluesKajsome ppl have no patience07:48
bazhanghahaha07:48
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BluesKajI wonder if the default kernel will remain 2.6.20, cuz the 2.6.22 version won't boot on my setup07:51
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BluesKajonce gutsy dev is done07:51
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DaSkreech2.6.22 instaleld for you?07:52
DaSkreechI had to do it manually07:52
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bazhangDaSkreech: 2.6.22-12?07:53
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fangorioushow do I pair with my bluetooth headset?07:54
stdin!bluetooth07:54
ubotuFor instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup07:54
DaSkreechbazhang: yes07:55
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bazhangDaSkreech: you had to manually install it? I thought it came with Gutsy beta.07:55
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max__hi07:55
DaSkreechbazhang: So did I. I had 2.6.20 though07:55
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BluesKajDaSkreech, 2.6..22.9 installed using the net upgrade and the updating with adept afterwards, however I uninstalled it and edited the menu.lst07:55
DaSkreechBluesKaj: I installed it and edited the grub.lst07:56
DaSkreechWe are not so different you and I :)07:56
bogdomaniahello all...i get in the terminal that gcc is not configured..what that means?07:56
DaSkreech!b-e | bogdomania07:56
ubotubogdomania: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)07:56
BluesKajhehe DaSkreech :)07:56
bazhangmax__: hi07:56
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bazhangmax__: what's up?07:57
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_Redondos_hi07:57
_Redondos_a question07:57
bazhanghi!07:58
_Redondos_how dos gutsy pre release work???07:58
_Redondos_I ask because is a pre release07:58
bazhang_Redondos_: very very well.07:58
BluesKajworks quite well _Redondos_07:58
_Redondos_has got many crashes?07:58
bazhangfeels like final.07:58
_Redondos_ahh ok07:58
fangoriousstdin: so even though I can graphically see all nearby bluetooth devices, and pair/browse OBEX devices, graphically see all paired devices, etc, I have to hand edit config files to put in manual commands to pair with my headset at every boot?07:58
_Redondos_because I know kubuntu is stable07:58
bazhangrock solid.07:58
_Redondos_haha07:59
_Redondos_ok07:59
_Redondos_thank you07:59
stdinfangorious: not sure, I don't use bluetooth07:59
BluesKajafter a few with the new updated versionprobs with some ktorrent crashes , it's all fine now07:59
bazhang_Redondos_: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/7.10/07:59
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_Redondos_ok thank you08:01
bazhangno problem08:01
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SJr|WorkHmmmm here is a very stupid question, once on the desktop how do I install Kubuntu 7.14 or whatever?08:02
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BluesKajSJr|Work, pls explain which desktop you are referring to08:04
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SJr|Workwell I boot the Kubuntu CD, go to "Start or Install" or whatever08:04
SJr|Worknow I'm at the KDesktop08:04
SJr|Workbut I can't figure out how to install it on my harddrive08:04
SJr|Workthis is so pathetic08:04
fangoriousSJr|Work, the "install" icon on the desktop08:05
SJr|Workthat's wierd there isn't one08:05
BluesKajhe's on the next page I think08:05
SJr|WorkNo08:05
SJr|Workcome to think of I remember that Kdesktop crashed when I booted up08:05
fangoriousSJr|Work, I'm not sure what menu to look for it in, is there something like System Tools from the main menu?08:06
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SJr|Workno08:06
SJr|WorkI'm just at the desktop with the K menu but no desktop08:06
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SJr|Workit looks like this is going to be too slow anyway08:07
jMerliNz7.10 is a bit buggy :s08:07
SJr|Workso I'll just go with ubuntu server08:07
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fangoriousSJr|Work, there are no System entries in the K menu?08:07
SJr|Workhmmmmm08:07
stdinSJr|Work: just install from the alternate cd if the live install is too slow08:07
SJr|Workoh08:07
SJr|Workno it's too slow for VMWare Server08:07
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SJr|Workthe Graphics are sucking over network08:07
fangoriousSJr|Work, running a livecd is slow by nature, not reflective of what an installed system would be like08:07
SJr|Workno I know that, I mean the graphics are slow08:07
fangoriousoh08:08
SJr|Workslower than normal08:08
SJr|Workit's just the network configuration that we have08:08
jMerliNzdrivers? o.O08:08
SJr|Workno08:08
tobias!resolution | tobias08:08
SJr|WorkI have kubuntu on my notebook in VMWare Workstation which works fine08:08
SJr|Workit's just the network so I'll go with Ubuntu Server08:08
jMerliNzi'm having a very strange problem with 7.1008:08
SJr|WorkWhats the problem?08:09
jMerliNzare there any problems documented with OEM installs?08:09
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tobiassudo aticonfig --resolution=1280x1024,1024x768,800x60008:12
tobiasError: Section # expected08:12
tobiaswhy do I get this error? :s08:12
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jMerliNzanyway, the problem is that i chose to do an OEM install08:12
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jMerliNzbecause i was getting an error message trying to start the O/S with a normal install08:13
jMerliNzthen i did the "prepare for shipping" thing on the OEM desktop08:13
jMerliNzrestarted, created the user etc08:13
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jMerliNzand now when starting I get an error before the login box comes up and I can't open the package manager or any system configurations08:13
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tobiaseow wow, forget my previews question08:14
tobiasit works fine :)08:14
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stylux02hello08:15
jMerliNzhi.08:15
bazhanghi08:15
happytigermy friend has a laptop (hp pavillion) which need kernel params "noapic" and "nolapic" set at boot in order to work. But when I add the param to /boot/grub/menu.lst they disappear/gets overwritten everytime there is a new kernel update (which happens frequently since its gutsy on there...). How do I add these to lines so they wont get blown on upgrades???08:15
ajayhello08:15
bazhanghi!08:16
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ajayany indian here?08:16
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stylux02hello ajay!08:18
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stylux02how are you?08:18
stylux02eey08:19
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faisanhello08:21
bazhanghi!08:21
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faisanwhat is you name?08:22
faisanbazhang ehat is you name?08:23
bazhangfaisan: ehat?08:23
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faisanwhat is you name!!08:24
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mishehuVermux: whats up oozah08:24
bazhangfaisan: bazhang?08:24
faisando you in speak the espanish?08:24
bazhang!es08:25
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.08:25
faisanwhrite in the spanish?08:25
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faisanhi08:26
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faisan:P08:26
faisan You write in the spanis?08:26
bazhangfaisan: do you have a question?08:26
BluesKajfaisan, in the textbox type:  /join #kubuntu-es08:26
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faisanas mio is your name is Alan and I am of Mexico08:29
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mishehuVermux: you smell funny.08:31
mishehulike ceiling tile dust08:31
Vermuxmishehu: like a dog08:32
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soulrider!es | faisan:08:35
ubotufaisan:: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.08:35
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peter_ubuntu 7.10  update ?08:36
bazhangpeter_: /join ubuntu+108:37
bazhangoops #ubuntu+108:37
peter_where i consol08:37
jMerliNzum..08:37
jMerliNzhow do i burn a CD with kubuntu =\08:37
jMerliNzk3b isn't detecting my burner or media in the drive08:38
jMerliNzso i can't burn my 7.04 cd to re-install kubuntu08:38
SnuxollWhat drive do you have?08:38
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SnuxollOpen up a terminal and use cdrecord --scanbus08:39
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jMerliNzSnuxoll: cdrecord is not installed on gutsy08:40
bhomeyeranyone having any issues w/ kopete and Yahoo contacts showing as offline?08:40
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peter_#ubuntu+1 ?08:41
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bigb2006no, eh?08:42
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peter_#ubuntu +1 where do have to put this in ?08:43
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bazhangpeter_: just type /join #ubuntu+1   and you will join08:44
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matt__h08:45
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matt__how can I get dvd::rip to see divx6 codec?08:45
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SnuxollWho higlighted for me?08:47
matt__whats the best software to rip dvd to divx then08:47
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bazhangouch08:48
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BluesKajmatt__, why divx ?08:49
winbondi need a utility which can show cd/dvd info ....aka manufacturer etc08:49
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matt__because ive used that on the darkside - is it not best?08:50
bazhangwhat just happened?08:50
peter_thanks08:50
BluesKajwhynot just copy the dvd straight ?08:50
Snuxollmatt__: VLC08:51
SnuxollVLC = best DVD ripping software ever08:51
matt__BluesKaj - I rip them onto a NAS and then stream them over network to mediaplayer08:51
matt__less space08:51
SnuxollOh, and x264 > Xvid08:51
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BluesKajmatt , K9copy will compress the the commercial dvd to 4.3G to fit on a dvdr08:52
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BluesKajVLC should be able to do that as well , matt__08:53
matt__cheers - I'm used to them being 700MB - 1GB and still keeping all aspects08:53
ubuntu_I'm an idiot and didn't backup a file I needed before reformatting? Is there something I can do from the livecd to recover a pdf file?08:53
Snuxollno ubuntu_08:54
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matt__I've installed divx6 on my system (I think) but dvd::rop isnt seeing it08:54
SnuxollYou formatted the partition, if you hadn't you could have recovered the file08:54
BluesKajoff a reformatted partition, afraid not08:54
nathan_is it possible to run kickstart on kubuntu or is that just for red-hat derivatives?08:55
SnuxollI'm sorry this isn't much help, but I'd recommend making a 5-10GB backup partition to avoid this issue next time08:55
BluesKajkick start works on kde08:55
poison--!ntfs08:56
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse08:56
BluesKajkickstart will work with kubuntu08:56
poison--hey  BluesKaj08:56
BluesKajhi poison--08:56
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jMerliNzhow the hell do you burn a CD in kubuntu if v3b is being a piece of shit?08:57
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kinhi there08:57
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bazhanghi!08:57
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nathan_jMerliNz: man cdrecord08:57
BluesKajjMerliNz, mp3 ?08:57
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jMerliNzBluesKaj: kubuntu 7.04 ISO08:58
kini have a problem with wrong entries in eth0 when i check with route -n08:58
jMerliNznathan_: no man entry for cdrecord08:58
kinwhere's the file containing those settings\08:58
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jMerliNznathan_: cdrecord not found08:58
jMerliNzk3b says my device can't burn CDs or DVDs08:58
jMerliNzand doesn't detect the blank media i put in08:59
jMerliNzbut kubuntu does08:59
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jMerliNzand KInfo shows that my drive can burn both cds and dvds08:59
jMerliNzk3b = fucked08:59
bazhangholy moley -92 updates?08:59
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stdinjMerliNz: watch the language08:59
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jMerliNzstdin: fix my problem.08:59
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kindoes anyone know where the file is with network settings?08:59
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ScorpKingin /etc/network/interfaces09:00
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kinty09:00
ScorpKingnp09:00
kinhi scorp im chatting in kubuntu :)09:01
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jMerliNzhelp me please.09:01
nathan_jMerliNz: sudo apt-get install cdrecord09:01
jMerliNzdon't make me go back to windows xp09:01
jMerliNznathan_: apt-get is broken09:01
ScorpKinglol09:01
jMerliNzi can't open the package manager either09:01
nathan_haha09:01
letalishas anyon using 7.10 had problems with their scanner not working? kooka wants to default to my v4l device when scanning and it shows nothing about my printers scanner. any ideas?09:01
jMerliNzlike i said 7.10 is FUCKED HARD09:01
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ScorpKingoops. :)09:01
jMerliNz7.10 with high end new hardware = fail :(09:02
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bazhangtempting the fates..09:02
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ScorpKing!ohmy | jMerliNz09:02
ubotujMerliNz: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.09:02
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coreymon77please jMerliNz, watch what you say09:02
kinim connected via pptp..  i found weird entries of eth0  thats why i can't connect to internet after authentication09:02
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jMerliNzfix my problem and we'll see what i can do about the language.09:02
stdin!attitude09:02
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines09:02
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wathekhello all I've a problem with adept it doesn't work ?!09:03
BluesKajjMerliNz, it doesn't work that way... no blackmail allowed here09:03
jMerliNzyes, because my attitude when i call microsoft gets my problem fixed slower.09:03
wathekI put the password of root and then nothing09:03
coreymon77jMerliNz: thats not how it works09:03
ScorpKingkin: can you paste your /etc/network/interfaces?09:03
ScorpKing!paste09:03
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)09:03
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ScorpKingthere ^^09:03
coreymon77jMerliNz: you stop the language, then we'll see what we can do about your problem09:03
jMerliNzcoreymon77: the last time i checked, if you can't support your product for everyone, you shouldn't be making the product at all.09:03
bazhangwathek: it won't start up?09:04
BluesKajjMerliNz, install libdvdcss2 ?09:04
evpctrk vam trk09:04
evpc:D09:04
jMerliNzBluesKaj: can't, package manager DOES NOT WORK.09:04
coreymon77jMerliNz: there are rules in this channel09:04
BluesKajno apt ?09:04
jMerliNznope.09:04
stdinjMerliNz: like ubotu said, people in here are volunteers. they don't make the product09:04
BluesKaj!tk | evpc09:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:04
jMerliNzsudo apt-get install <...> just gives 0 lines of output09:04
jMerliNzjust goes right to the next input line09:05
stdin!tr | evpc09:05
ubotuevpc: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.09:05
wathekbazhang: yes09:05
BluesKajright on stdin09:05
wathekbazhang: I think because I changed the root password09:05
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bazhangwathek: are you ok using the terminal?09:05
jMerliNzwhen i try to open the package manager or the system log, it shows up in the task bar for about 10-15 seconds09:05
jMerliNzthen disappears09:05
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eilkerevpc: yok09:05
wathekbazhang: to start adept ?09:06
eilker!xgl09:06
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects09:06
evpceilker: anlamad09:06
naliothhi coreymon7709:06
fawx...09:06
eilker!Turkish09:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about turkish - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:06
bazhangwathek: well, to do what you want to; add/remove packages, get updates, and so on; it's actually much faster and easier using the terminal.09:06
fawxi need help09:07
wathekbazhang: run adept from terminal ?09:07
fawxw/ wine09:07
fawxif any 1knows how it works09:07
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ScorpKing!wine09:07
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.09:07
ScorpKingtry that09:08
jMerliNzmeh09:08
bazhangwathek: the equivalent to what adept does, through a command called apt-get.09:08
fawxkk09:08
kinhttp://pastebin.com/m38b69bf709:08
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jMerliNzi'm gonna just try installing wine and using nero with it09:08
jMerliNzsince 7.10 seems to fail miserably09:08
kinmaybe other things are starting weird eth0 entries09:08
coreymon77jMerliNz: 7.10 is a beta09:08
stdin!gutsy | jMerliNz09:08
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ubotujMerliNz: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information09:08
wathekbazhang: that's what I'm using now but I tried adept on an other machine and I found it cute09:08
wathek:p09:08
watheklol09:08
jMerliNzsure a beta, but a beta should not be at an alpha level.09:08
gnomefreakjMerliNz: your joking right? a non stable release fails?09:08
bazhangjMerliNz: have to disagree; 7.10 is the best thing out there.09:08
coreymon77jMerliNz: its not fully stable release yet09:08
jMerliNznot stable != completely incapacitated09:08
jMerliNzsorry.09:09
coreymon77jMerliNz: there are going to still be a few bugs to work out09:09
ScorpKingkin: that's normal09:09
gnomefreakjMerliNz: i have it running on a few pcs09:09
jMerliNzgnomefreak: how old are they?09:09
BluesKaj<--- running gutsy , very stable so far09:09
kinoke ill give your the route -n output09:09
kinyou09:09
ScorpKingok09:09
jMerliNzpoint made.09:09
gnomefreakjMerliNz: i have one less than 3 months old and one that is since 91/92?09:09
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jMerliNzwell i shouldn't say how old09:09
bazhangwathek: open up a terminal and type the command "sudo apt-get update", followed by your password09:09
jMerliNzi should say how old are the parts in terms of age since first production09:10
kinhttp://pastebin.com/m3f0020b509:10
gnomefreakjMerliNz: age of pc matters nothing09:10
gnomefreakjMerliNz: hardwre in pc counts for everything09:10
jMerliNzgnomefreak: sure it does, new hardware tends not to work on systems that haven't been designed for it.09:10
coreymon77jMerliNz: a beta os is a beta os, its not going to be perfec09:10
coreymon77t09:10
bazhanghaha09:10
kinif i remove 0.0.0.0  10.0.0.138  0.0.0.0   i can connect to internet09:10
coreymon77if you dont want to deal with some bugs and compatability problems09:10
coreymon77jMerliNz: dont use a beta09:10
jMerliNzcoreymon77: if you want to compare this to "not perfect" .. LOL09:10
jMerliNzcoreymon77: WHAT THE HELL DO YOU THINK I'M TRYING TO DO?09:11
jMerliNzI am trying to burn 7.04 so i can install that09:11
stdin!caps | jMerliNz09:11
coreymon77jMerliNz: wow!09:11
ubotujMerliNz: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.09:11
jMerliNzbut 7.10 is so screwed up that I can't even do that.09:11
coreymon77jMerliNz: calm down09:11
kinlol09:11
ScorpKingjMerliNz: please be nice!09:11
bazhangthe perfect is the enemy of the good...09:11
gnomefreakjMerliNz: i suggest you either grab last tuesday in sept. ISO or you wait till next week and try installing rc, installer may be borked at since we are trying to get the cryptset in and stable09:11
coreymon77jMerliNz: do you have another computer/os available09:11
jMerliNzcoreymon77: not with a cd burner.09:11
coreymon77okay09:11
coreymon77any livecds?09:12
ScorpKingkin: you are in netherlands perhaps? the modem only works in xp?09:12
jMerliNzan old dapper ubuntu sure09:12
bazhangwathek: you still there?09:12
coreymon77jMerliNz: use that09:12
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coreymon77jMerliNz: use that to burn the disc09:12
jMerliNzlet me try, hold on09:12
kinyes im in the netherlands but i'm chatting in kubuntu now09:12
wathekbazhang: yes09:12
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bazhangwathek: did you try that?09:12
wathekbazhang: I changed the root password so I can connect as root when I need09:12
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ScorpKingkin: sorry, the router only connects in xp right?09:13
wathekbazhang: I used apt-get to install what I need but I'm looking for a solution for adept09:13
stdinwathek: and "sudo -i" doesn't work because?09:13
kin? no09:13
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wathekstdin: euh let me check09:13
kinkubuntu laptop > eth0 > adslmodem09:13
bazhangwathek: ok then:  in root, or sudo apt-get update, then upgrade.09:13
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ScorpKingkin: there was another guy here (Bleep) with the same router and problem. :(09:13
wathekbazhang: I did that09:14
kinI am Bleep LOL!!09:14
kincofee? :P09:14
kinf09:14
ScorpKingkin: then say so. lmao!09:14
poison--LOL09:14
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lyn_I"m using Konversation in here, and I registerd my nick this morning.  I restarted computer and now its saying nick is already in use.  I did a who is on it and it's me alright.  Same location.  still won't let me use it though09:14
poison--hi scorpio09:14
bazhangwathek: so the problem is you want to use adept because...?09:14
lyn_how can I fix this09:14
ScorpKinghi poison--:)09:14
stdin!ghost09:14
ubotuOn IRC, if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit by typing: /msg nickserv GHOST <username> <password>09:14
wathekbazhang: euh09:15
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stdinlyn_: ^ read that09:15
coreymon77lyn_: do you own the nick?09:15
quixogreafternoon all :)09:15
bazhangwathek: sorry?09:15
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kinwel I'm trying to find out what application causes to add that weird entry when i startup kubuntu09:15
lyn_coreymon77; I registerd it does that me I own it?09:15
coreymon77lyn_: if you registered it with nickserv, that means you own it09:15
coreymon77lyn_: is this one also registered and linked with the other one?09:16
ScorpKingkin: what error? have you found more info for me about the router? is it working now?09:16
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lyn_now it's saying it's not registered?09:16
wathekbazhang: when I try to run adept_updater I need to enter a password so when I put the root password it says wrong password !09:16
coreymon77lyn_: okay slow down09:16
coreymon77lyn_: the nick you are trying to use is registered right?09:16
quixogrewathek, try the admin users password09:16
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coreymon77lyn_: by you09:16
stdinwathek: you use _your_ password09:16
lyn_lyn_ isn't registered it was a default alternative09:16
wathekstdin: my password ?!09:16
stdinwathek: yes09:17
coreymon77lyn_: lyn is owned by you though correct?09:17
wathekstdin: I've to use that only if my root password is set to nothing isn't it ?09:17
pippostdin: I have a problem with wireless... with ubuntu it is all ok, but in kubuntu I can't find my router09:17
lyn_don't know....new to this whole thing09:17
lyn_I only registered new2ub09:17
coreymon77lyn_: did you register lyn?09:17
stdinwathek: no, even is root password is set you use yours09:17
lyn_no09:17
coreymon77lyn_: of09:17
coreymon77lyn_: oh09:17
quixogrewathek, when you install ubuntu the first name you set up is created as admin09:17
coreymon77lyn_: okay then09:17
kinwell actually i dont have to do any setup with my adslmodem... i should left it like it was in xp before09:17
wathekah09:17
wathekok09:17
watheklet's try then09:17
stdinpippo: I'm not good with wireless, mine just works09:17
pippook09:18
kinthen i install ppp and pptp in kubuntu09:18
lyn_should I register it?09:18
BluesKajlyn_,once you do the ghost command you have to quit and relogin09:18
lyn_oh...ok09:18
quixogrepippo it works with gnome, but not with kde?09:18
coreymon77lyn_: what you need to do, is register another nickname (such as new2ub_) with the same password as you normal nick09:18
lyn_but it told me the nick wasn't registered and I know it was09:18
pippoyes09:18
coreymon77which nick are you trying to use09:18
bazhangwathek: do you have a sudo pasword09:18
pippoin kde it can't work09:18
lyn_new2ub09:18
bazhangpassword09:18
BluesKajjust quit and relogin09:19
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coreymon77lyn_: okay09:19
fawxanother question um...can kubuntu show the users on a list b4 any1 logs in and how?09:19
pippoquixogre: I can't understand how it is possible09:19
coreymon77lyn_: change your nick to new2ub_09:19
quixogrepippo, try opening the knetworkmanager tool. does it recognize your wireless card in there?09:19
piratux_checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!09:19
wathekbazhang: no09:19
poison--man.. virtualbox rules09:19
fawxfor example like on windows xp where it list all users09:19
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lyn_coremon77; should I register that one too?09:19
coreymon77lyn_: yes09:19
lyn_ok brb09:19
pippoquixogre: yes it recognize my wireless card09:19
coreymon77lyn_: under the same password09:19
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bazhangwathek: maybe stdin can answer...09:19
quixogrepippo, using wep or WPA for wireless security?09:19
coreymon77lyn_: it must be under the same pword as new2ub09:19
pippoquixogre: it is so strange, the same card under gnome...09:20
pippoquixogre: wep, but in gnome no problem, only there in kde09:20
xenolplz where should i look for default kde panel backrounds?09:20
ScorpKingkin: so where are we now with the setup?09:20
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stdinwathek: sudo/kdesu uses your user password, that's why root is disabled, it's not needed09:20
pippoquixogre: it can't fine my net... not just to connect, but it doesn't find my net09:20
fawx...ugh09:20
coreymon77pippo: what card09:20
wathekstdin: h09:20
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quixogrepippo, kde and gnome use different interfaces for the ethernet cards. the fact that it works with gnome network manager is a good sign. just means you gotta configure kde networkmanager09:21
coreymon77pippo: what card are you using09:21
stdin!away | den09:21
ubotuden: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines09:21
wathekstdin: so I've to reconfigure sudo ?09:21
pippointel pro wireless 2200GB09:21
stdinwathek: why? you don't need a root password or root user09:21
denin tha fawx den09:21
den..?09:21
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coreymon77pippo: okay, give me a sec09:21
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wathekstdin: so I've to remove the root password that I put ?09:21
pippothx09:21
kinscorp: http://pastebin.com/m3f0020b5     why the entry 0.0.0.0    10.0.0.138  0.0.0.0  keep coming back after kubuntu restart09:21
xenolplz where is kde panel installed?09:22
kinthis entry prevents me from connecting to internet09:22
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stdinwathek: you can, it doesn't effect sudo or kdesu09:22
wathekstdin: ok09:22
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stdinwathek: if you want to remove it "sudo passwd -dl root"09:22
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ScorpKingkin: use my full nick if you talk to me. i might miss what you say. press scorp<tab> for autocompletion. checking...09:23
coreymon77pippo: okay, laptop or desktop09:23
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pippolaptop09:23
pippoacer aspire 165009:23
wathekstdin: ok09:23
coreymon77pippo: okay09:23
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kinScorpKing: oke :09:23
ScorpKing:)09:23
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coreymon77pippo: type lspmcia and paste the contents on pastebin09:24
kinlol im a complete newbie in irc09:24
coreymon77new2ub_: hi again09:24
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pippook09:24
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pippoSocket 0 Bridge:        [yenta_cardbus]          (bus ID: 0000:06:01.0)09:24
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coreymon77pippo: i said pastebin!09:24
kinww.pastebin.com09:24
pipposorry where is pastebin?09:24
kinwww.pastebin.com09:25
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genii!paste09:25
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)09:25
pippothanks sorry09:25
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geniiThere are a few09:25
kinnp09:25
pipposorry I am newbie09:25
kinme 3 :)09:25
coreymon77pippo: no problem09:25
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poison--!printer09:25
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows09:25
coreymon77pippo: just put it there and give me the url09:25
pippoI ve pusted09:26
coreymon77okay, never mind that09:26
ScorpKingkin: what does /etc/resolve.conf say now?09:26
coreymon77pippo: built in card? or external usb?09:26
pippook09:26
pippoin card09:26
pippointegrated with mother card09:27
coreymon77i see09:27
coreymon77is it detected?09:27
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new2ub_coremon77; when I restarted I was able to use the original one again, but registered my other one just in case this happens again.   Thanks :)09:27
pippoyes09:27
pippomy kubuntu can detect my card09:27
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pippowell09:27
coreymon77pippo: okay then09:27
coreymon77pippo: knetworkmanager is buggy09:27
coreymon77pippo: get rid of that and install kwifimanager09:28
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pippois there a bug?09:28
kinScorpKing: http://pastebin.com/m54c3bac909:28
pippook09:28
coreymon77pippo: i just find that it doesnt work well09:28
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new2ub_I just installed this ubuntu a  couple of days ago from  XP and I'm having some issues with the cd and dvd drives09:28
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pippodo I have to install kwifimanager?09:28
coreymon77pippo: yes09:28
coreymon77new2ub_: did you take care of the nickname thing>09:29
coreymon77?09:29
pippook09:29
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coreymon77pippo: done.09:29
coreymon77?09:29
new2ub_coremon77; yes  thank you ;)09:29
coreymon77new2ub_: did you link the nicks?09:29
new2ub_yes09:29
pippowell I do09:29
new2ub_same password right09:29
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coreymon77new2ub_: you also have to actually link them with a command09:30
pippoit says : no netword09:30
pipponetwork09:30
parsniphey guys09:30
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new2ub_what command09:30
coreymon77pippo: i know09:30
ScorpKingkin: see if this helps - http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/usersguide/linux_ugrouting.html09:30
coreymon77new2ub_: /msg nickserv link new2ub [your password] 09:30
wathekeuh another question is it possible to read the ram files (radio stream) with amarok ?09:31
coreymon77pippo: give me a sec, gotta start up my linux box09:31
pippook thx09:31
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quixogre!mp3 | wathek09:31
ubotuwathek: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:31
kinScorpKing: thnx! ill read that09:31
wathekok thanx a lot09:31
bazhangwathek: did you sort the adept problem?09:31
ScorpKingkin: come back if you can't get it working.09:32
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coreymon77new2ub_: once you do that command, you can switch back to your regular nick09:32
wathekbazhang: no09:32
kinScorpKing: oke   thx again09:32
wathekbazhang: but doesn't matter gonna still using apt-get09:32
ScorpKingnp kin :)09:32
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bazhangwathek: I think it gets sorted with all the updates; there have something like a couple of hundred the last two days...09:33
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wathekbazhang: I'm updating all packages with apt-get now09:33
bazhangwathek: it's so much simpler.09:33
poison--damn, no issues with my box for two weeks09:34
poison--boring09:34
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bazhangahhahaha09:34
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ScorpKinghehe poison--. what's wrong?09:34
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wathekbazhang: I was using Fedora on my workstation and I'm using Debian on my server so I wanted to migrate from Fedora to Kubuntu :)09:34
poison--nutin.., dats the problem09:34
poison--everitin workin so smood i can barely believe09:35
ScorpKinglol. same here.09:35
bazhangwathek: interesting09:35
poison--even Beryl09:35
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coreymon77pippo: give me 2 secs, just gotta deal with soemthing09:35
poison--samba, cups..09:35
poison--bah09:35
poison--i want issues09:35
poison--eheheheh09:35
quixogreblah. if kwifimanager gets my wifi running, im gonna puke...09:35
pippook thx so much09:35
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kinrunning application buttons dont appear in main taskbar but in external taskbar... how do i change it?09:36
coreymon77pippo: alright now09:37
pippook09:37
coreymon77kwifimanager is open?09:37
pippoyes09:37
coreymon77pippo: good, go to system settings09:37
pippook09:37
coreymon77pippo: then click on network settings09:38
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pippodone09:38
pippook09:38
coreymon77pippo: scroll down to the bottom of that window and click administrator mode09:38
pippook09:38
coreymon77put in your pword and let that load09:39
coreymon77done?09:39
pippodone09:39
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pipponow?09:39
coreymon77pippo: okay, in the list of available network interfaces, what does it say?09:39
pippothere are two  cards: lan and wireless09:40
coreymon77pippo: okay, which ones not working?09:40
pippoin wireless the ip is 169.254.9.16709:40
pippoeth109:40
coreymon77pippo: i dont need to know that09:40
pippodoesn't work eth109:40
coreymon77pippo: which ones not working, the lan or the wireless09:40
pippowireless09:40
coreymon77okay09:40
coreymon77click on the wireless and press configure09:40
pippodone09:41
coreymon77do you let dhcp assign your ip, or do you have a static?09:41
pippodhcp assign09:41
coreymon77okay09:41
coreymon77is this your normal netowrk09:41
pippoyes09:42
coreymon77is this the one that you want your computer to connect to by default whenever you start up kubuntu?09:42
pippoI am using wpa for security09:42
pippoyes09:42
coreymon77okay09:42
coreymon77well then, click the box that says activate when the computer starts09:43
coreymon77did you already install the wpa-supplicant package?09:43
coreymon77pippo: did you already set up wpa support?09:43
pippoI tryed but I couldn't install... some error on command09:43
Ace_NoOneI keep getting errors when trying to install Kubuntu in my virtual machine: http://i20.tinypic.com/ab7ddj.png09:43
kinhow do i get running applications to show up in the main taskbar?09:44
pippolike sh - remove to remove my oldest driver09:44
Ace_NoOne(it's actually always the same error - see above)09:44
ScorpKingcoreymon77: wpa-supplicant package? i need that.09:44
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coreymon77pippo: why didnt you tell me that before09:44
pipposorry coreymon09:44
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coreymon77pippo: none of this will work if thats not set up09:44
pippoI tried to install its but09:44
coreymon77okay09:44
pipposorry09:44
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coreymon77pippo: we will do that now09:45
coreymon77pippo: close system settings09:45
pippothx so much coreymon09:45
pippoclosed09:45
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pippoI've done09:46
bazhangcoreymon77: you the man.09:47
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coreymon77pippo: okay09:47
coreymon77so09:47
pippook09:47
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coreymon77pippo: turns out we are gonna need knetworkmanager09:49
pippook09:49
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coreymon77type this into konsole09:49
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coreymonpippo: sudo aptitude install knetworkmanager network-manager wpasupplicant09:50
coreymon77pippo: put that into konsole09:51
pippodone09:51
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wathekstdin: I think that I've a problem with sudo09:52
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coreymon77pippo: that done?09:52
coreymon77pippo: no problems?09:52
wathekstdin: I tried sudo ls /media/hda109:52
pippoit is already installed09:52
coreymon77pippo: what is?09:52
wathekstdin: It needs my password I putted it and then nothing09:52
wathekwathek@wathek:~$ sudo ls /media/hda1/09:52
wathek[sudo]  password for wathek:09:52
wathekwathek@wathek:~$09:52
coreymon77pippo: whats already installed?09:52
pippothat you said me to install09:52
pippoby konsole09:53
coreymon77all 3 of those packages are already installed?09:53
stdinwathek: are you sure there's anything in that directory? try "sudo ls -la /media/hda1"09:53
pippoyes09:53
wathekstdin: yes with root it works09:53
coreymon77pippo: you sure?09:53
pippono package will be installed , upgraded or removed09:53
coreymon77pippo: did you put in the command anyways?09:53
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pippoI don't remember coreymon77 ... this afternoon I've tried to upgrade , and I don't know what I've done this afternoon09:54
coreymon77pippo: just to make sure, what command did you enter09:54
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pipposudo aptitude install knetworkmanager network-manager wpasupplicant09:54
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coreymon77pippo: okay then09:54
coreymon77pippo: good09:55
coreymon77pippo: restart your comptuer and come back on irc once youve restarted09:55
pippook09:55
pippoI am restarting09:55
pippothx so much coreymon09:55
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itch_Hello guys. Can somebody give an advice regarding my CRT refresh rate. After properly configuring v/h sync ranges in xorg.conf I still can`t set up my display to 1280X1024 @ 100Hz. Any sugestions on what I can do to correct this ?09:55
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poison--ScorpKing09:57
ScorpKinghmm?09:57
poison--have a issue09:57
poison--lmao09:57
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ScorpKinghehe :P09:58
poison--can i use a ati with virtualbox?09:58
wathekstdin: strange isn't it ?09:58
coreymon77pippo: that was fast09:58
stdinwathek: very09:58
pippo:)09:58
pippoI've restarted09:58
ScorpKingpoison--: no idea. i've got bad grapics and i only buy geforce. :)09:58
pippokubuntu is fast09:58
Minatakuitch_: 100Hz is far beyond detection of human vision09:59
wathekstdin: :(09:59
Minataku75Hz is good enough09:59
poison--i use 120Hz here09:59
pippobut ... not wireless09:59
poison--seems ok09:59
MinatakuBeyond that you're just pushing the CRT09:59
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pippocoreymon77: it doesn't work09:59
MinatakuReally, 60Hz is already beyond human vision limitations09:59
coreymon77pippo: open knetworkmanager09:59
MinatakuBut some people (idiots) have convinced themselves that 60Hz has visible flicker10:00
bazhangMinataku: hahaha10:00
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pippocoreymon77: from sistray?10:00
MinatakuThough other people legitimately have issues at 60Hz for some reason or another10:00
coreymon77yes10:00
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pippook10:00
MinatakuThough bumping up to 72 or 75 is typically plenty to allieviate them10:00
pippodone10:00
coreymon77pippo: okay, select your network from the list10:01
pippono wireless network found10:01
MinatakuConsidering your standard NTSC TV is 60Hz (PAL is 50Hz), there's no issue with the NTSC refresh10:01
coreymon77pippo: then go to connect to other wireless network10:01
coreymon77pippo: and put in your essid10:01
itch_Minataku : Somehow I can tell if it`s 100Hz or less. And it makes a big difference for my eyes10:01
coreymon77pippo: and then choose wpa as the encryption type10:02
Minatakuitch_: Severe vision issues?10:02
MinatakuIf so, switch to LCD, which technically has no refresh rate10:02
itch_Minataku : Already wearing glasses. (-0.5, I admint, but still)10:02
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coreymon77pippo: everything good, or no?10:03
MinatakuSince there's no repeated scan involved in keeping an LCD lit up10:03
pippoI ve putted my essid (Belkin54G) and wpa password10:03
pippoit is stopped on 28% of configuring device10:03
pipponow says eth1 not active10:03
coreymon77pippo: sigh10:03
itch_Minataku : and since my CRT can do 100Hz, why not use it (besides that I don`t know how :D)10:03
coreymon77pippo: go back to system settings10:03
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coreymon77pippo: and network settings, go to admin mode and enter your pword10:04
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bazhangMinataku: you should do a podcast on this. this is interesting and funny stuff!10:04
pinguinohhhh10:04
ScorpKingpippo: it stops beacuse of the auth stuff.10:04
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coreymon77pippo: you in network settings?10:04
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pippojust a moment , I have to disconnect from eth010:05
pippo?10:05
pippoI don't think is good...10:05
pippoI have lag10:05
MinatakuRight, and let Apple have it's way with my content? Yeah right.10:05
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coreymon77Minataku: you dont have to10:05
MinatakuI'll podcast it if they agree to a heavy licensing fee.10:05
bazhangMinataku: sorry streaming mp3-cast?10:05
MinatakuFight fire with fire, mwahahaha10:05
coreymon77Minataku: what do you need that for10:05
bazhanghahaha10:05
coreymon77Minataku: apple has no say with what you put on a podcast10:06
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pippohmmm10:06
coreymon77pippo: okay10:06
poison--ScorpKing, youre a useless bum than10:06
poison--lmao10:06
pippocoreymon77: I don't think it is working10:06
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coreymon77pippo: go to network settings again10:06
pippothere is a symbol with x10:07
coreymon77pippo: where?10:07
itch_Minataku : so, do you have any ideea on how I might "convince" my CRT to do 100Hz ? I already congigured my xorg.conf and added the v/h sync ranges, but no good. I Windows, after installing the driver, I could choose 100Hz, but in linux, I have no clue on how I might do it.10:07
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ScorpKingpoison--: shame on u. :P10:07
pippoon eth1 (my wireless)10:07
poison--eheheheh10:07
coreymon77pippo: in what/10:07
pippoI am on network setting10:07
coreymon77pippo: oh10:07
Minatakuitch_: Setting up xorg to do it should be enough10:07
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Minataku!resolution10:07
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto10:07
MinatakuTry that, perhaps10:07
coreymon77pippo: thats because the itnerface is disabled10:07
coreymon77pippo: go to admin mode10:07
pippoI am in admin mode now10:08
coreymon77pippo: okay10:08
coreymon77pippo: click on eth1 and then click enable interface10:08
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pippoit was enabled and clicking on enable it is disabled10:09
pipponow it is enabled10:09
coreymon77pippo: is it enabled now10:09
coreymon77okay10:09
itch_Minataku : the xorg can`t even detect my display properly. It chooses "default monitor" and I`m stuck with a louzy 1024x786 @ 60 Hz screen resolution.10:09
coreymon77pippo: now click on configure10:09
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pippook done10:09
coreymon77pippo: click the activate when computer starts box10:09
coreymon77pippo: so that there is an X in it10:10
pippothere is an X in it10:10
coreymon77okay10:10
coreymon77pippo: now in the key type menu10:10
coreymon77pippo: can you choose wpa?10:10
pippono10:10
coreymon77darn10:10
coreymon77pippo: it is enabled now?10:10
pippoyes it is enabled10:11
coreymon77okay10:11
coreymon77press okay10:11
bazhangyesss!10:11
coreymon77then press apply10:11
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coreymon77pippo: done?10:11
pippowhile saving the network setting10:11
coreymon77pippo: huh?10:12
pippoit is freezed on windows that say me reloading network10:12
coreymon77pippo: i know10:12
coreymon77pippo: give it some time10:12
pippook done10:12
coreymon77pippo: okay10:12
coreymon77pippo: now close the window10:12
pippoI ve done apply10:12
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pippoand now10:12
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pipporeloading network10:12
coreymon77pippo: and try to connect to your network with knetworkmanager again, choosing wpa as the encryption type10:12
pippoand a message say eth1 is active10:12
bazhangyay!10:13
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pippowhere?10:13
kinwhere's the theme manager located?10:13
pippoin other wireless?10:13
coreymon77pippo: is your network listed?10:13
pippoor in manual configuration?10:13
pippoyes the last network that firstly I've done10:14
coreymon77pippo: is your netowkr listed in knetworkmanager10:14
Minatakuitch_: Ugh... stupid automation... "makes things easier" my ass10:14
MinatakuWhen it guesses wrong or can't guess, it makes things 500x harder10:14
itch_Minataku : Indeed10:14
MinatakuThis is why I hate Windows10:14
bazhangMinataku: more on refresh rates!10:14
coreymon77pippo: ?10:14
MinatakuI take it the link only says how to do it automatically?10:14
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pippoanother way is stopped on 28%10:15
pippoI am waiting10:15
pippoand now10:15
pipposay10:15
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Bauldricki was on about dvd::rip earlier and divx... I'm currently ripping a dvd 1hr 12min (2 pass) in xvid4, gonna be about 2hrs 30mins on 64 bit machine - windows would have done it in 1hr 30 tops - guess thats down to compression (xvid) being old?10:15
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coreymon77pippo: what happened there?10:16
MinatakuBauldrick: The difference is that Linux does it right.10:16
pippoeth1 is not connected10:16
MinatakuWindows doesn't give a crap10:16
pippomy connession in unstable when I try to connect to eth110:16
ScorpKingcoreymon77: it stops on 28% if there is any authentication on the network. mine does the same unless i remove authentication from the router.10:16
Bauldricki'll hold judgemebnt!!10:16
Minatakulol10:17
pippoI think that this problem is impossible10:17
coreymon77pippo: im sorry, i really dont know what to do anymore, to tell you the truth i really am not that familiar with wpa10:17
pippook thanks the same10:17
coreymon77so if anyone here is more familiar with it10:17
pippoyou are so kind10:17
coreymon77please help10:17
coreymon77pippo: im sorry i couldnt fix it10:17
pippoI think that is a bug, because with ubuntu I had no problem10:18
coreymon77pippo: if you ever decide to switch to wep, then could probably do more10:18
pippothanks the same10:18
Bauldrickdoes anyone use any software that uses divx6 here?10:18
pippook I think to switch to wep10:18
coreymon77pippo: you dont have to10:18
bazhangpippo: it's not impossible--are you running Feisty?10:18
ScorpKingpippo: i have the same problem. it only works if i remove authentication from the router. i aslo don't know what's wrong. :(10:18
pippoI am running Feisty10:18
bazhangpippo: anyway to use ethernet?10:18
ScorpKingfeisty here as well...10:18
coreymon77i cant help, ive exhausted all of the pages on the wiki, so im out of ideas10:19
pippoI can use my ethernet cable10:19
pippothanks the same10:19
pippodon't worry10:19
coreymon77no problem10:19
coreymon77wish i could help more10:19
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pippoyou have done all :)10:19
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pippothanks from italy and sorry for my bad english10:19
pippodo you know if is there an italian help channel?10:20
coreymon77bad english?10:20
coreymon77i never noticed anything10:20
pippomy english is awful10:20
coreymon77!it10:20
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!10:20
bazhangpippo: not so!10:20
coreymon77pippo: it really isnt10:20
pippothx10:20
pippo:)10:20
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glenn_Sup Guys :] 10:20
bazhangpippo: you should consider upgrading to Gutsy; many of these issues are worked out.10:21
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bazhangpippo: in the meantime, could you connect via ethernet?10:21
pippoyes10:21
glenn_:10:21
coreymon77bazhang: i wouldnt reccomend gutsy yet10:21
pippoI am connecting via ethernet10:21
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coreymon77bazhang: not for someone unexperienced10:22
pippois gutsy beta version now?10:22
coreymon77yes10:22
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bazhangcoreymon77: ok; my bad..10:22
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pippois it Gutsy beta good?10:23
coreymon77pippo: i wouldnt reccomend it right now10:24
pippook10:24
pippoI will wait for right release10:24
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pipponobody answer on #ubuntu-it... italy is a strange land :)10:25
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coreymon77many of the local channels are not all to active10:26
pippoI see :)10:26
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Bauldrickwhat is it, 2 weeks till gutsy release?10:30
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ScorpKingyes. that's what i saw today.10:31
ScorpKingi wonder if it will run on my laptop....10:33
ScorpKing640Mhz 320MB ram10:33
ScorpKingfeisty works well.10:33
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Bauldrickwonder if it'll run on my Linkstation 400Mhz 32MB ram?!! (10:34
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ScorpKingnope. lol10:34
ScorpKingyou might get the kernel working tho. :)10:35
Kachnai'd get debian for that10:35
Bauldrickalready have!!10:36
Kachnagood choice :-)10:36
ScorpKingany graphics?10:36
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Bauldricknot onboard, can run vnc10:36
Kachnawhat for...?10:36
[Relic] add more ram?  :)10:36
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ScorpKingoh, i see. :)10:37
[Relic] if progress dialog only had some sort of progress indicator  :(10:37
[Relic] deleting a drive takes a while  :)10:38
ScorpKingprogress indicating in linux is way better that windows.10:38
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[Relic] using only 0 not done and 1 done is quite accurate but doesn't do much for estimating time of a trash deletetion  :)10:39
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ScorpKinghehe10:39
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phoenixzHi there, I am using knetworkmanager to manage all my network stuff. Now, I want to configure a VPN connection, but selecting the menu entry VPN connections -> configure VPN does not do anything.. Does anybody know how I can fix this??10:40
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nosrednaekimphoenixz: no clue....10:41
[Relic] Anything do disk spanning for backups so I can just choose all the directories I want and let the program tell me how many DVDs I need?  :)10:41
phoenixznosrednaekim, It does work with you?10:42
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nosrednaekimphoenixz: I've never used it10:42
Ace_NoOnehmm .. I've installed Yakuake and assigned ALT+SPACE as key combo - that starts Katapult tho; how can I reset the shortcut?10:42
nosrednaekim!backup10:42
ubotuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning10:42
PsycoshotHow do you find a package name.10:42
nosrednaekimAce_NoOne: go to systemsettings->keyboard and mouse10:43
serafoboas noites10:43
Les_CaesarsIn the "recent" tab, my kicker menu shows recent documents, but not recent applications. How can I fix this?10:43
phoenixzwhat does katapult do by the way??10:43
nosrednaekimPsycoshot: "apt-cache search <keyword>"10:43
ardchoillePsycoshot: apt-cache search app_name_here  ?10:43
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ardchoilleI like nosrednaekim's explanation better10:43
nosrednaekimphoenixz: its a quick launcher/caclulator10:44
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Ace_NoOnenosrednaekim: can't seem to find it there10:44
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PsycoshotWhat would AmarokFS's package name be :S10:44
nosrednaekimAce_find what?10:44
Ace_NoOnenosrednaekim: anything that would help me solve the problem10:44
nosrednaekimAce_NoOne: oh sorry wrong nick.10:44
nosrednaekimjust a sec10:44
Ace_NoOnefor the record: I'm a KDE newbie10:45
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emilsedghPsycoshot: if you want AmaroKFS, try Kirocker music display...10:46
Webbmasteranyone here heard of Xephyr10:46
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PsycoshotAk thanks.10:46
nosrednaekimAce_NoOne: :)its ok. umm is there a place to configure yakuake?10:46
nosrednaekimWebbmaster: yup10:46
Ace_NoOnenosrednaekim: that's what I'm trying to figure out10:46
Psycoshot10:47
Psycoshotemilsedgh: Wow thats much better.10:47
emilsedghPsycoshot: it rocks!10:47
nosrednaekimAce_NoOne: humm... let me go get yakuake10:47
Ace_NoOnesorry for the trouble10:47
Webbmasterhow do i start another instance of kde to run in Xephyr10:47
nosrednaekimno problem10:47
Webbmasterpresumeably i run export DISPLAY=:1 and then some other command10:47
emilsedghyakuake 2.8 is __REALLY__ better, splits vertically and horizontally, and becomes full-screen, really usefull features10:48
Daisuke_IdoAce_NoOne: launch yakuake10:48
Daisuke_Idoit's in the menu10:48
Ace_NoOneDaisuke_Ido: I did, like three times10:48
Daisuke_Ido(key binding)10:48
nosrednaekim!kde4 | Webbmaster this will tell you a little how to run KDE, just don't run those KDE4 specific export lines10:48
ubotuWebbmaster this will tell you a little how to run KDE, just don't run those KDE4 specific export lines: KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php10:48
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nosrednaekimthe last link^^10:48
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Webbmasternosrednaekim: thanks10:49
nosrednaekimNP10:49
Webbmasteri did try to install kde4 which is where i got the idea from :D10:49
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nosrednaekimoh :) is that what you were trying to run?10:49
Webbmasternah10:50
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Ace_NoOneDaisuke_Ido: there is no menu for Yakuake10:50
Webbmasteri just ran kde4 normally, but it was no good10:50
Ace_NoOnewell, I can't access it anymore now10:50
nosrednaekimWebbmaster: is still beta ;)10:50
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hnetholaaaaa10:50
Webbmasternosrednaekim: i know10:50
Daisuke_Idowhy?10:50
Webbmasterbut i had no kicker!!!!10:50
nosrednaekimAce_NoOne: is yakuake running?10:50
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nosrednaekimWebbmaster: yeah... lol. thats fixed in beta 3 (or will be)10:51
Ace_NoOnenosrednaekim: yes10:51
sven_oostenbrinkHi there, I have kubuntu on my Dell latitude D620 laptop, Im quite a heavy user, I run compiz, gaim, amarok, xchat, kmail, firefox with 20 pages, eclipse editor, skype, and a bunch of other programs. So far, so good.. Now, every now and then I have misterious X crashes, where X restarts, or hangups where  i only see blinking ascii characters.. This usually only happens when I install software with Adept manager.. the laptop is very hot at those m10:51
sven_oostenbrinkoments, could it be malfunction becuase of overheating?10:51
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Webbmasternosrednaekim: ahh, when can i get that in gutsy repos?10:51
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Webbmasteror is there antoher repo i can use?10:51
nosrednaekimWebbmaster: it shoudl be released in about a week10:52
nosrednaekimits will be in gutsy, eys10:52
nosrednaekim*yes10:52
nosrednaekimsven_oostenbrink: could be...10:52
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jerihi everyone!10:52
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Les_Caesars I recently installed kicker/kickoff, and it works great! But it's missing an important functionality feature. It does not display my recent applications10:53
nosrednaekimsven_oostenbrink: set some powermanagement to make it run at a lower frequency at that time.10:53
Les_Caesarsjeri: hi10:53
jerii finally got my amarok to play mp3s!now i need to figure k3b to support mp3 so i can burn em down!10:53
hnetHi, I can't install Ubuntu nor Kubuntu on a compaq presario F564LA, I think because of a conflict with WiFi card BROADCOM. Anyone can help???10:53
nosrednaekimLes_Caesars: kicker and kickoff are two different things10:53
sven_oostenbrinknosrednaekim, at that time? how do you mean that?10:53
jerihow do i do that?10:53
sven_oostenbrinkIs there a way I can read out the CPU temp?10:53
Les_Caesarsnosrednaekim: erm. ok. What's the one which  also happens to be the SUSE KDE menu?10:54
nosrednaekimsven_oostenbrink: yeah.. its called "sensors"10:54
nosrednaekim!sensors10:54
ubotuYou might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto10:54
nosrednaekimLes_Caesars: kickoff... ok10:54
Daisuke_IdoLes_Caesars: kickoff10:54
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Les_Caesarsok. Well, I'm having a kickoff problem10:54
Daisuke_Ido!info kickoff10:54
ubotuPackage kickoff does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas10:54
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nosrednaekimyeah it does..10:54
nosrednaekim!find kickoff10:54
Les_CaesarsI did it third-party anyway.10:55
ubotuPackage/file kickoff does not exist in feisty10:55
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Daisuke_Idooh.  then you're not supported, and you've voided your warranty, so even if you have a hardware malfunction that has nothing to do with software, we cannot help you.10:55
Daisuke_Ido:D10:55
Daisuke_Idojust kidding10:55
Les_Caesars:P10:55
sven_oostenbrinknosrednaekim, but what I understood is that you can lower CPU freq when I run certain programs? correct?10:56
nosrednaekim!windows attitude | Daisuke_Ido10:56
nosrednaekimsven_oostenbrink: yeah, do it from the powermanager...10:56
trickel_is anybody here how can spek german10:56
nosrednaekim!de10:56
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de10:56
Daisuke_Idonosrednaekim: that's not windows attitude, that's OEM attitude :)10:56
nosrednaekimheh10:56
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sven_oostenbrinknosrednaekim, sorry... :) where is the powermanager?10:58
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nosrednaekimsven_oostenbrink: it should be on the panel, a green battery looking thing.10:59
jeriwa do i need 4 my k3b to support mp310:59
nosrednaekimif you have a laptop.10:59
bazhangjeri: lame10:59
nosrednaekimjeri: for if you wanted to burn an MP310:59
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jerisorri im just new here10:59
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Daisuke_Idobazhang: calling names isn't very nice11:00
emilsedghjeri: search k3b in adept, there is something like libk3b-mp3, install ir11:00
emilsedghit*11:00
bazhangjeri: do you know how to add software?11:00
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sven_oostenbrinknosrednaekim, ah, you mean like.. set the policy manually? Ithought that you meant like that I can specify in a configuration that when program X is running, then lower the CPU freq...11:00
bazhangDaisuke_Ido: sorry, I meant the lame mp3 package.11:00
jerikind of sudo apt-get install11:00
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Daisuke_Idobazhang: i know :P11:00
nosrednaekimsven_oostenbrink: i'm sure its possible to do that... but it'd take some scripting work ;)11:00
bazhangjeri: then you are set.11:00
Ace_NoOnefor the life of me, I can't figure out how to reconfigure Yakuake11:00
bazhangDaisuke_Ido: ok phew. I'd hate to piss you off...11:01
Daisuke_Idobut it's the libk3b2-mp3 package (or something similar)11:01
Daisuke_IdoAce_NoOne: can you get it open at all?11:01
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Daisuke_Idoor can you not get it open because alt+space opens katapult?11:01
Ace_NoOneDaisuke_Ido: not since I changed the keyboard shortcut to ALT+SPACE11:01
Ace_NoOneexactly11:01
Daisuke_Idohere's a wild suggestion11:01
nosrednaekimAce_NoOne: uninstall katapult11:01
Daisuke_Idobear with me11:01
Daisuke_Idono11:01
jeriok thx11:01
Daisuke_Idojust change katapult's keybinding temporarily!11:02
nosrednaekimDaisuke_Ido: don't tell me NO!!!11:02
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tetreaul!katapult11:02
ubotukatapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.11:02
nosrednaekimDaisuke_Ido: we tried that...11:02
Daisuke_Idoouch11:02
Ace_NoOneDaisuke_Ido: I have no idea how...11:02
nosrednaekim;)11:02
Ace_NoOne(KDE nub, remember ;) )11:02
Daisuke_IdoAce_NoOne: uninstall katapult11:02
Ace_NoOneD:11:02
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Daisuke_Idothen reinstall it after you fix yakuake...11:02
nosrednaekimDaisuke_Ido: just to be clear.. I was kidding ;)11:02
Daisuke_Idoturn that frown upside down!11:02
Ace_NoOneheh ok11:03
Daisuke_Idonosrednaekim: i wasn't :)11:03
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DaSkreechAce_NoOne: Did you change the keyoard shortcut for katapult?11:05
Ace_NoOneDaisuke_Ido: got it now11:05
DaSkreechThats a conflict11:05
Ace_NoOneI killed Katapult11:05
Ace_NoOnethen could access Yakuake again11:06
Ace_NoOneso no need to uninstall11:06
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DaSkreechAce_NoOne: ok reset the one for yakuake to something11:06
Ace_NoOnejust did :)11:06
apollo2011I just rebooted and now my mouse is clearly more sensitive than it used to be. I am on KDE and the setting for acceleration is still the same, as low as it will go (1x). Is there some other setting in X, KDE, etc that could be changing my mouse's sensitivity/acceleration?11:06
DaSkreech run katapult press alt+space -> Ctrl+C -> G -> set the command o something other than alt +Space11:06
DaSkreechset back yakuake ot alt+Space11:06
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Ace_NoOnethanks people, now I'm all set11:07
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Les_Caesarsok. KDE and openSUSE both gave me the finger when I asked how to fix my kickoff problem.  How to I get recent applications to work?11:07
trevorHey, anyone know anything about alsa mixer on kubuntu with an acer laptop>11:07
trevor?11:07
nosrednaekimtrevor: which one..11:07
BluesKajapollo2011, system settings/keyboard & mouse11:07
trevorAcer Aspire 5050...11:07
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nosrednaekimtrevor: deja vu.. lol.I have the same one.11:08
nosrednaekimtrevor: what exactly is the problem?11:08
DaSkreechBye!11:08
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trevorNice!  Well, I'm showing off ubuntu distros to a friend, so I'll be back in a few...11:08
trevorThanks!11:08
bazhangbye!11:08
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apollo2011BluesKaj: Yeah, I have gone into those settings and they are as I set them up. The only one that would really affect the sensitivity is the acceleration, which is set a 1x, as low as it will go...11:09
nosrednaekimtrevor: k.. I might not be around though... jst a second, let me get you a link, K?11:09
Daisuke_Idotrevor: bring them into the light!  escape the clutches of the evil Darth Ballmer!11:09
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nosrednaekimtrevor: http://nosrednaekim.wordpress.com/2007/05/28/linux-on-the-acer-aspire-5050/11:10
bazhanghahaha11:10
nosrednaekimwritten by yours truly11:10
BluesKajLes_Caesars, did you install kickoff11:10
BluesKaj?11:10
Vermuxwhy dictionary.com dowsnt work with firefox?11:10
apollo2011BluesKaj: In addition, modifying that value doesn't seem to change how sensitive the mouse for better or worse. As if another setting somewhere is setting the behavior of the mouse11:10
Les_CaesarsBluesKaj: yes. It works 95% But the last 5% is a really important component.11:10
Les_CaesarsBluesKaj: recent documents works, but not recent applications11:11
trevornice...11:11
BluesKajwhat last 5% ?11:11
BluesKajoh11:11
Les_Caesarsthey're in the same tab. But it's blank for recent apps11:11
Vermux\?11:11
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BluesKaji haven't used kickoff in a while , gonna check11:12
Daisuke_Idohave you used apps since installing kickoff?11:12
Daisuke_Idojust sayin...11:12
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bazhangbye!11:13
nosrednaekimc ya bazhang11:13
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Vermuxdoes anybody know why firefox doesnt display disctionary.com results?11:13
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Les_CaesarsDaisuke_Ido: heh, funny. But unfortunately, yes. It truly isn't working11:13
Les_CaesarsVermux: robots.txt? Just a guess11:14
VermuxLes_Caesars: what is it?11:14
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Les_CaesarsVermux: please don't take my answer seriously. But FYI, robots.txt is just a file that websites can have, which asks crawlers to overlook them. Some obey, and some don't. web.archive.org obeys robots.txt. I'm not sure whether google does or not. Presumably, yes11:15
VermuxLes_Caesars: it displays results but after long time of waiting11:15
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Les_CaesarsVermux: hm. inefficient index? No idea11:16
VermuxLes_Caesars: what crawlers?11:17
ugaVermux: possibly it takes some time until firefox loads its own kernel, boots up services, starts up the login manager and desktop environment and the X compatible graphics server =)11:17
VermuxLes_Caesars: what are these words- I have no idea what do u mean11:17
ugaVermux: FirefOS11:18
Vermuxuga:  sorry, but Im new in this thing: kubuntu and linux11:19
NickPrestaLes_Caesars, any of the important search engines, Yahoo, MSN, Google, Archive.org, etc will obey your robots.txt. That isn't to say it's a replacement for denying access from crawlers and such in your httpd.conf file either...11:19
ugaVermux: it's a joke... firefox is almost an operating system on its own... too much bloat =)11:19
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ugaVermux: have you tried using konqueror instead?11:20
ugaor opera11:20
Vermuxuga:  now I got the joke :)11:21
Vermuxuga: so firefox is very slow?11:21
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ugait was meant to be lighter than mozilla, but it seems to be going the same way11:21
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NickPrestaVermux, it's hardly "slow" but there are leaner browsers available11:21
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Les_CaesarsVermux: Crawlers. They're what "crawls" around the internet, exploring. While they look at the content, they organize it in what's called an "index," which is what makes search engines good at finding things in the internet. (To everyone else, please excuse my layman's speech)11:22
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BluesKajspiders11:23
Les_Caesarshm. Hey,  I still don't know what to do about my kickoff. Does anyone know what to do?11:24
VermuxLes_Caesars: now you are writing in my language- thanks11:24
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VermuxLes_Caesars: so spiders=crawlers?11:24
ernestoHi, I need somebody who169.254.4.95 me11:25
ernestoIm new11:25
poison--!beryl11:25
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects11:25
borrerhello,  who can help me ? I have installed kubuntu 7.04 on ASUS m2v-mx with integrated VIDEO (VIA Chrome9), and I cant start on graphics mod.11:25
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ernestoI need to Install my Wi-Fi card11:25
poison--borrer, start with recovery mode and edit grup11:25
VermuxNickPresta: why using leaner browser?11:25
poison--grub*11:25
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ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs11:26
Les_CaesarsVermux: I would imagine. But I -really- don't know a lot about search engines. I just have the average person's understanding of the topic.11:26
borrerproblem not in grub, vesa drivers cant be loaded11:26
Les_CaesarsVermux: it's like you're getting a lesson about life from a 9 year old11:27
Vermuxuga: firefox is different than mozilla?11:27
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ugaVermux: firefox is based on mozilla, it was made lighter, and given they removed parts like e-mail and others from it, it was lighter11:28
ugabut then... it's growing again11:28
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ugaVermux: much heavier when you compare it to others like opera or konqueror11:28
borrerpoison: i mean that cant start xorg11:28
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pippocoreymon7711:29
Vermuxuga: with konqueror I cannot read my gmail11:29
pippocoreymon77: U can't belive me... the error was in windows and in my laptop11:29
ugaVermux: you can. Or at least I can, here11:29
pippocoreymon77: wireless was disabled from the acer windows utility, and now wireless is right!!!!11:30
borrerwho can help me ? I have installed kubuntu 7.04 on ASUS m2v-mx with integrated VIDEO (VIA Chrome9), and xorg cant start.11:30
Vermuxuga: it doesnt display anything11:31
poison--!compiz11:32
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects11:32
ugaVermux: uhm... I juts entered. Maybe it's a bug in the feisty version. Gutsy here11:32
ugaVermux: even in feisty I was using newer kde packs, so it worked iirc11:33
Vermuxuga: where do I c which version of ubuntu I am using|?11:33
borrerwho can help me ? I have installed kubuntu 7.04 on ASUS m2v-mx with integrated VIDEO (VIA Chrome9), and xorg cant start.11:33
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Vermuxuga: now gmail doesnt display anything with qunqueror- I tried to change the html setting11:35
ugaVermux: type: lsb_release -a11:36
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ugaVermux: heh, just use the html setting =)11:36
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hangthedjcan someone tell me how to untar something into a specific directory?11:37
Vermuxwhere do I type it?11:37
Vermuxuga:11:37
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Vermuxuga:  now it gives me this error:11:38
VermuxAn error occurred while loading http://www.gmail.com/:11:38
VermuxTimeout on server11:38
Vermux Connection was to www.google.com at port 44311:38
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coreymon77pippo: huh? wireless works now?11:38
pippoyaaaaaaaaaaa11:39
ugaVermux: that's got nothing to do with konqueror, in theory11:39
coreymon77pippo: thats great11:39
pippocoreymon77: an error in windows, an applett windows can disable wireless from bios11:39
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ugaVermux: it's a failure to open port 443 (https)11:39
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coreymon77pippo: thats windows for ya!11:40
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pippocoreymon77: I thanks you so much for all time, I would like to offer a beer :)11:40
ugaVermux: try on the command line: telnet www.google.com 44311:40
ugaVermux: does it open immediately?11:40
coreymon77huh?11:40
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pippocoreymon77: :)11:40
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ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.11:40
VermuxI just opened it with ff. it works fine with it11:41
pippothanks again11:41
ugaVermux: it may not be doing the same process for firefox11:41
coreymon77no problem11:41
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ugaVermux: anyway, you can change the browser id in konqueror to firefox 1.5 and try11:41
Vermuxuga: how do I open the cmd?11:41
ugaVermux: alt+f2  and type... konsole11:42
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LjL!shortcut11:42
ubotukeyboard shortcuts can be set in K -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse. Try also "Input Actions" in KControl. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys - See !Keyboard for changing layouts11:42
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ugauhm... lets see how much ubotu knows about...11:43
uga!photography11:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about photography - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:43
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Vermuxuga: it says "connection closed by forign host11:43
ugaVermux: you should see....11:43
ugaTrying 64.233.183.104...11:43
ugaConnected to www.l.google.com.11:43
ugaEscape character is '^] '.11:43
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Vermuxuga: yes that what I c11:44
MS-Suseif i specify a burning speed in growisofs is it going to overwrite the burners default burning speed for a given media? 4x instead of 2x11:44
Vermuxand what I wrote too11:44
ugaVermux: connection closed only if you type in something11:44
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Vermuxuga:  I didnt type11:44
ugaVermux: then it's strange. The socket should remain open11:44
ugaat least for a while11:45
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ugaVermux: it hasn't closed connection here, yet11:45
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Vermuxuga:  I tried again, it is still "trying..."11:45
ugaokay, that explains why konqueror times out11:46
ugait cannot achieve a connection11:46
Vermuxuga: ok- and waht is the reason?11:46
ugaVermux: ISP maybe11:46
ugaI can't tell for sure11:46
Vermuxuga: before it happaned, I changed the html setting in conquerer to standard without chat. now I changed it back to standard with chat11:47
ugaVermux: try 66.249.91.10311:47
ugainstead of www.google.com11:47
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Vermuxuga: but it worked before- just I couldnt read anything because of the garbage11:47
ugauhm11:47
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pipponotte11:48
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parsniplo each#11:51
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parsnipdoes anyone have the kde4 beta installed?11:52
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Vermuxuga: I tried the ip u gave me, it displays:Trying 66.249.91.103...11:56
ugaVermux: that's what www.google.com resolves to, here11:56
astananyone know a program in *verse somewhere in which i can just open a mpeg4 movie and do some simple editing (just cut/paste, fade in/out, and some text)..?11:56
Vermuxit is still trying11:57
astankino won't load my .avi.. :/11:57
Vermuxdo u think I should reboot?11:57
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ugaVermux: rather than reboot, try to get another IP address, if your ip is dynamic?11:57
Vermuxuga: and how do I do that11:57
ugaVermux: does your ISP offer you a fixed (static) IP address?11:58
ugaif not, usually on each adsl modem reconnection, you'll get a new IP address11:58
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ugaunless your ISP caches it11:58
Vermuxuga: it isstatic11:58
ugauhnm, then you can't11:58
ugamaybe through an online proxy... a second11:59
waylandbill_uga: you'd have to have the dsl modem off for a while. I think they've got a good sized TTL for the MAC.11:59
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Vermuxuga: but how can it be. fire fox works fine with gmail11:59
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Vermuxwaylandbill_: what?12:00
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ugaVermux: it may be that firefox isn't directed to the same address. As I said, you could try changing the browser ID in the konqueror settings12:00
ugawaylandbill_: depends on the ISP12:00
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ugawaylandbill_: I've seen ISPs giving a completely different IP on each restart of hte modem12:00
Vermuxuga: now it is working suddenlt12:01
Vermuxsuddenly12:01
ugalol12:01
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ugaI scared google when I mentioned the word "proxy" ;)12:01
waylandbill_uga: that would use up alot of addresses needlessly, but I don't doubt it with some providers.12:01
Vermuxuga:  by working I mean, displaying all that garbage12:01
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ugawaylandbill_: it's nice though, when you get an IP address of somebody that has been doing lots of *muleing12:02
ugaand you get stupid icmps all over the place12:02
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ugaVermux: just wait for gutsy to be out,... =(12:02
Vermuxuga: ok, I changed the identification to firefox 1.5 - it is the same12:03
Vermuxuga: so u r implying that Gusty is betteR?12:03
ugaVermux: I'm just saying I can read gmail from konqui in gutsy ;)12:04
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ugawaylandbill_: btw, giving away another IP address doesn't increase the amount of IP addresses being used12:05
ugawaylandbill_: as soon as the modem restarts and does a dhcp broadcast with the MAC address, they know the IP address associated to that MAC is free again12:05
ugaand it's reused12:05
ugafor somebody else12:06
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Vermuxuga: I changed it to firefox 1.5- still doesnt work. any ideea?12:06
waylandbill_uga: if it restarts. If it has a momentary lapse of service, it's not the same thing, but it's drifting off target a little.12:06
ugaVermux: not really12:07
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_Tudor_Hello12:07
BluesKajyeah konq browser ID has to be configged to FF 1.5 to render gmail and yahoo pages properly , altho the back button freezes up rather than returning the page on gmail12:07
nosrednaekimhello _Tudor_12:08
ugawaylandbill_: not sure what you mean... there's a lapse of service. then a new IP lease is requested. You're given a new IP. But as soon as you are given a new one, the old one is free12:08
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_Tudor_How are you?12:09
waylandbill_uga: nah. there's a timeout before the ip can be reused. Could be short, but it's not instantaneous.12:10
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ugawaylandbill_: a few seconds maybe, yup, until the dhcp server updates the DB12:10
VermuxBluesKaj: I changed it to firefox 1.5- but it has the same problem. cannot read gmail12:10
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ugawaylandbill_: it could well be a roundrobin list. Nobody would notice12:11
Vermuxuga: does cable modem also broadcasts its MAC address?12:11
nosrednaekim_Tudor_: very good12:11
ugaVermux: afaik, yes. But I'm not trained in adsl lines12:11
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waylandbill_uga: all nic interfaces have to provide a mac address. It's part of the protocol. Could be modified by a NAT or router though.12:12
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Zelutnosrednaekim: thanks for the invite you left at ubuntu-tutorials12:13
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nosrednaekimZelut: hey.. good to see ya12:14
ugawaylandbill_: heh, thanks. I don't know much about ppp and similars. Just normal ethernet osi levels ;)12:14
ugaand something about modulation etc, but not about specific protocols12:14
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Vermuxuga:  waht is afaik?12:14
ugaVermux:  as far as I know12:14
nosrednaekimZelut: I have been using kubuntu for a year, tried ubuntu for a week, and couldn't stand gnome ;) so I know how you must feel right now.12:14
VermuxIug I meant cable modem not dsl modem12:15
kilraedoes anybody know of a way to automatically set the umask for a single ext2 file system?12:15
Zelutnosrednaekim: I'm finding things that I really like (katapult and klipper + actions) and others that are driving me crazy, like Konqueror12:15
nosrednaekimZelut: Konqueror as a web browser quite frankly sucks...12:16
nosrednaekimI use firefox12:16
nosrednaekimZelut: don't feel bad if you do that.12:16
Vermuxuga:  I meant cable modem not adsl modem12:16
kilraeand don't forget to disable the gnome file picker in about: config12:16
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uganosrednaekim: most sites work from konqueror nowadays. Maybe you should get more deep into that "sucks" definition12:16
uganosrednaekim: and actually some sites that dont' work on firefox, do work on konqueror. Funny, ain't it =)12:17
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ugaVermux: they should all be similar...12:17
nosrednaekimuga: slow on my dial-up, flash only works half the time. not as many good plugins, the list goes on.12:17
nosrednaekimhalf the time pages time-out12:17
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kilraeso nobody has any thoughts on the umask deally?12:18
uganosrednaekim: flash always works here on konqueror, even on 64bit, and... sorry, half the plugins (kio) that exist for konqueror are unavailable for firefox12:18
uganosrednaekim: try doing fish:// with firefox12:18
nosrednaekimuga:  thats not a web browser thing, its filemanagement.12:18
kilraewhy would you want to do file transfers in your web browser?12:18
uganosrednaekim: sorry to say... fish is networking12:19
kilraewhy would you want to do networking in your web browser?12:19
nosrednaekimuga:  ANYWAY... I don't like it.. and I have heard ALOT of complaints.12:19
Vermuxnosrednaekim: so u r suggesting to broese only with firefox. I cannot read gmail with qq12:19
ugakilrae: now reread your question and you'll know it's silly12:19
uganosrednaekim: that's okay. "sucks" isn't12:19
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kilraeyou know what i mean :P12:19
nosrednaekimVermux: whatever works for you, Konqueror doesn't work for me.12:19
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nosrednaekimuga: k12:20
ugakilrae: most the "plugins" he mentions are "networking" stuff too12:20
kilraeactually, i think he means extensions12:20
ugakilrae: such as?12:20
kilraeadblock12:20
Vermuxnosrednaekim: for me too12:20
ugakilrae: there's adblock for konqueror...12:20
kilraeof course since flash doesn't work in konqi you don't need adblock :)12:20
nosrednaekim!ot12:20
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!12:20
nosrednaekimZelut: ANYWAY ;)12:21
ugakilrae: you're completely wrong for the 2nd time12:21
kilraealright, umask\12:21
kilraeanybody?12:21
kilraethat's on topic-ish12:21
Vermuxnosrednaekim:  however, citicards.com doesnt work for me with firefox? any idea?12:21
ugakilrae: settings->configure konqueror->adblock filters12:21
BluesKaj!info adblock12:21
ubotuPackage adblock does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas12:21
nosrednaekimVermux: probably an IE only site;)12:21
ugakilrae: why do people say "foo", when they mean "I don't even know"12:21
kilraebecause foo is only one syllable?12:22
Vermuxnosrednaekim: what do u mean by IE only site?? how can it be?12:22
ugayeah, just like "sucks", I guess12:22
kilraethere ya go12:22
ugakilrae: well, next time say "rocks" and "test"12:22
ugaboth short12:22
kilraethe katrina victims support page was IE only12:22
nosrednaekimVermux: they do it.... thats all I know.12:22
Vermuxnosrednaekim: how do I verify it ?12:23
kilraeif you had a mac, you couldn't get government aid12:23
nosrednaekimVermux: send a nice email to the people.12:23
ugaVermux: uhm... what's your kde version? (help->about kde, in konqueror for example)12:23
nosrednaekimZelut: any problems with Kubuntu other than konqueror?12:24
ugaVermux: iirc there was an unofficial repository for newer kde packs by an ubuntu maintainer12:24
ugaVermux: yes, there: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php12:24
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nosrednaekimbackports?12:24
ugaVermux: unless it's 3.5.7, you can update your packages from there, without installing gutsy12:25
uganosrednaekim: not exactly a backport12:25
Vermuxuga:  how do I check the version?12:25
ugaVermux: open konqueror: help->about kde12:25
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Vermuxuga: 3.5.612:26
ugayou could give it an upgrade following the instructions on that url12:26
uga3.5.7 is the version in gutsy12:26
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VermuxI will try12:26
ugaI can read gmail just fine without setting the browser ID, here12:27
ugain html mode12:27
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ugano trashing nor garbage12:27
Vermuxuga:  but it says security updates wont be applied12:28
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Zelutnosrednaekim: besides the half-dozen bugs I submitted that I had in the post? :)12:28
maximus121hi12:28
maximus121algum tuga por ai12:28
ugaVermux: I'm not sure if I've read about any security updates in 3.5.7...12:28
nosrednaekimZelut: lol...12:28
ugaVermux: else they'd release 3.5.8 soon?12:28
nosrednaekim!es12:28
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.12:28
uganosrednaekim: that's not spanish12:28
nosrednaekimZelut: you have a macbook?12:28
nosrednaekimuga: portuguese?12:29
nosrednaekimitalian?12:29
maximus121yes12:29
uganosrednaekim: maybe portuguese, not sure. but definetely not spanish ;)12:29
Vermuxuga: ok, I'll try to install it tomorrow12:29
uga!pt | maximus12112:29
ubotumaximus121: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.12:29
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Vermuxuga: anyway, thanks for all the help.12:29
nosrednaekimuga: its all Latin to me ;)12:29
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Zelutnosrednaekim: I do.  I'm a glutton for alpha/beta/pioneer punishment12:29
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ugaVermux: I used it while I was in feisty. Worked fine. And riddell is trustworthy ;)12:30
ugaVermux: else you could migrate to gutsy soon, anyway12:30
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Vermuxuga: riddel\?12:31
nosrednaekimZelut: hehe... I did it because it made this laptop work much much better. sound all works and Wireless is a snap.12:31
Vermux!riddell12:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about riddell - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:31
ugaVermux: check the announcement. He's mentioned12:31
ugaVermux: and he's on the channel, so don't wake him up by writing the nick ;)12:31
Vermuxuga: ok, the security signuture12:31
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Zelutnosrednaekim: it appears that wireless is still buggy on this machine outside of ndiswrapper unfortunately12:32
nosrednaekimZelut: is it atheros?12:32
nosrednaekimmost macs are.12:32
Vermuxuga: thanks uga. will continue tomorrow12:32
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Zelutnosrednaekim: yes, but the second gen C2D I have has a firmware upgrade supporting a/b/g/n, which breaks the madwifi12:33
Zelutnosrednaekim: building from the current madwifi trunk will work, but doesn't have the same speed as ndiswrapper.12:33
nosrednaekimZelut: ah...I see.12:34
Zelutnosrednaekim: normally I'm not a fan of the binary blobs ("it makes baby jesus cry" as they say), but you've got to draw the line somewhere12:34
code_xhi i has anyone here ever installing perl DBD::ODBC, iam getting errors, advice will be appreciated12:34
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nosrednaekimZelut: indeed, I used ndiswrapper b4 gutsy. I tried for 3 weeks to get madwifi working.diagnosed it as trasmit errors. then I just gave up.12:36
NickPrestacode_x, which errors? More information allows people to help you better and faster12:36
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UsThErehi all!12:37
NickPresta!hi | UsThEre12:37
ubotuUsThEre: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!12:37
Zelutnosrednaekim: I've got a whole long-list of kubuntu questions if ya'll have time.12:37
nosrednaekimNickPresta: just hi would probably be easier ;)12:37
nosrednaekimZelut: fire away12:38
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UsThEreehehe i too12:38
Zelutnosrednaekim: any equivalent to gnome-open in KDE? When I was unsure the app to use to open a file I'd use gnome-open, the swiss-army knife tool as I call it.12:39
code_xfirst i installed unixodbc and freetds, now when i try installing DBD::ODBC i get the following error "You need to indicate where your ODBC Driver Manager is installed"12:39
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