[12:41] <ardchoille> root____: It open the konqueror file manager as rot user.
[12:41] <root____> oh I know what it does
[12:41] <root____> that's like gksudo nautilus in gnome
[12:41] <ardchoille> Right
[12:41] <root____> well anyways the fonts still aren't there
[12:41] <root____> I put them in /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-lucida
[12:41] <ardchoille> You probably wouldn't like the way those fonts look anyway
[12:42] <ardchoille> root____: Did you restart kcontrol?
[12:42] <BluesKaj> sebastian, ask your question
[12:42] <parsnip> sebastian: wassup?
[12:42] <sebastian> I am trying to burn a file bigger than 4 gb in k3b
[12:43] <sebastian> and it keeps saying that it's not possible to add files bigger than that
[12:43] <root____> that did it
[12:43] <sebastian> I've been googling about an answer but couldn't found nothing
[12:44] <parsnip> sebastian: if you make an iso of the files first does it work?
[12:44] <sebastian> it's an mkv video file
[12:44] <parsnip> sebastian: make an iso of the file and try burning that
[12:45] <sebastian> and its 4.2 gb
[12:45] <ardchoille> parsnip: How do you make an iso from a collection of files?
[12:46] <parsnip> sebastian: ardchoille: mkisofs -o ~/DVD.iso /path/to/files/
[12:46] <ardchoille> parsnip: Ah, thank you
[12:46] <sebastian> and then I try to burn de DVD from de ISO file?
[12:47] <ardchoille> sebastian: Yes, but you'll have to install mkisofs first
[12:47] <redoo> hy@all
[12:47] <sebastian> ok, I already have it
[12:47] <sebastian> thanks, I'll give it a try
[12:47] <ardchoille> sebastian: You have to burn the iso as an image, not as a file
[12:48] <sebastian> right, thank you ardchoille
[12:48] <redoo> i need a tool to convert movie files into flv files, is there a simple tool?
[12:48] <parsnip> sebastian: to burn the iso, open K3b then open the iso
[12:48] <parsnip> redoo: what is the original file format
[12:49] <redoo> parsnip: avi & mpg
[12:50] <ardchoille> !info tovid
[12:50] <ubotu> Package tovid does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[12:50] <sebastian> no luck: 'genisoimage: Value too large for defined data type'
[12:50] <sebastian> it ignores the file that is larger than 4 gb
[12:50] <NickPresta> !find tovid
[12:50] <lovre> im back... much later than i supposed i will...
[12:50] <lovre> hi all
[12:51] <nosrednaekim> lovre: hey
[12:51] <ubotu> Package/file tovid does not exist in feisty
[12:51] <WoahWoah> ]  <WoahWoah> Hey guys! I'm quite a new linux user and the help I've had from some people here has been amazing. This is a slightly different question, it's actually on music. I'm trying to locate a song sung by an (African American lady e.g Kelly Rowland, Beyonce?) Some of the lyrics are "Put your hands up...." and "About ya baby".... It's quite a dancey song
[12:51] <lavacano201014> oats
[12:51] <ardchoille> NickPresta: I thought it was in the repos
[12:51] <nosrednaekim> WoahWoah: #kubuntu-offtopic
[12:51] <BluesKaj> yup sebastian , tovid rocks ...no problem there , it also converts.mkv files to mpeg for dvd
[12:51] <NickPresta> ardchoille, I may have found a deb on UF somewhere. I forgot
[12:51] <parsnip> redoo: http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/ffmpeg-user/2007-March/007281.html
[12:51] <lovre> can some1 help me on how to install a theme in kubuntu?
[12:51] <sebastian> tovis? that's the package name?
[12:51] <WoahWoah> Lol, thank you!
[12:52] <sebastian> tovid, sorry
[12:52] <ardchoille> lovre: What kind of theme is it?
[12:52] <BluesKaj> tovid yes
[12:52] <root____> I need help with step 7
[12:52] <sebastian> it's not on the repos
[12:53] <lovre> ardchoille: i was thinking about this: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/NuoveXT2-Theme?content=66685
[12:53] <BluesKaj> sebastian, you can get help at #tovid here on freenode, the guys there are very helpful
[12:53] <lovre> ardchoille: im total noob to all this, so can you instruct me how to set this up*
[12:53] <sebastian> ok, thanks BluesKaj
[12:53] <lovre> ardchoille: cuz when i download it, theres just a bunch of files, i dont know what to do with them
[12:53] <ardchoille> root____: First, I suggest you do this: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[12:54] <ardchoille> lovre: Ok, which one of those do you want?
[12:55] <redoo> parsnip: is there no easier way?
[12:55] <lovre> ardchoille: i gave you the link: branka.zesoi.fer.hr
[12:55] <lovre> ardchoille: sorry
[12:55] <lovre> ardchoille: wrong link
[12:55] <lovre> ardchoille: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/NuoveXT2-Theme?content=66685
[12:56] <ardchoille> lovre: yes, I'm there. There are 4 different themes there for 4 diff apps. Which one do you want?
[12:57] <lovre> ardchoille: im new to this, i dont understand what you mean. I just want to change the way everything look (windows, etc), like on the picture
[12:57] <parsnip> redoo: not that im aware
[12:57] <redoo> parsnip: ok, thx
[12:58] <ardchoille> lovre: Ok, he's using the color scheme, which just changes the colors of windows. He also has a kbfx theme there which themes the kbfx menu applet in kicker. There's also an amarok theme and a wallpaper
[12:58] <parsnip> redoo: np man
[12:59] <lovre> ardchoille: so kbfxis like a skinning application?
[12:59] <lovre> ardchoille: do i need to install it in order to use his theme?
[01:00] <ardchoille> lovre: No, kbfx is the menu applet in the bottom left of the second screenshot on that link
[01:00] <lovre> ardchoille: like the "Start" menu?
[01:00] <ardchoille> lovre: If you're wanting the look of the first screenshot, then that is just a color scheme.. it's easy to install
[01:00] <ardchoille> lovre: yes, but you will need to install kbfx to use that theme
[01:01] <ardchoille> lovre: kbfx is a replacement for the kmenu
[01:01] <lovre> i see
[01:01] <lovre> ardchoille: ok, i just want it to look like on the first screenshot
[01:01] <lovre> ardchoille: what do i do
[01:02] <lovre> ardchoille: just started with kubuntu and linux generally - dont wonder why i dont know this :D
[01:02] <ardchoille> lovre: Click on the first link at the bottom that says "Domino Config/Color Scheme"
[01:02] <spencer--> Is there a channel for Libre OSS in general?
[01:02] <nosrednaekim> spencer--: hmmm there is #linux
[01:03] <ardchoille> lovre: Save it to disk
[01:03] <lovre> ardchoille: done
[01:05] <lovre> ardchoille: what now
[01:05] <leif> hi
[01:05] <ardchoille> lovre: Unpack the 66685-nuovext2.zip file and find the NuoveXT2.kcsrc file in the contents. Open a terminal and type:  mkdir -p ~/.kde/share/apps/kdisplay/color-schemes
[01:06] <leif> does someone have a canon s5 is camera running on kubuntu?
[01:06] <ardchoille> lovre: Then find the NuoveXT2.kcsrc file and copy it to ~/.kde/share/apps/kdisplay/color-schemes. When that is done, open kcontrol, go to Appearance & Themes > Colors  and find and select the new color scheme
[01:09] <root____> kompmgr says it has no config file
[01:09] <ardchoille> root____: It told me that too, I ignored it and it ran just fine
[01:10] <kin> (bleep) finally i found the solution!
[01:10] <lovre> ardchoille: the colors have changed, but there is no transparency around edges, it doesnt look that smooth like on the picture. And the tray is not changed..... Did i do something wrong
[01:10] <lovre> ?
[01:10] <root____> how do I know if it ran ok?
[01:10] <kin> i found multiple eth0 lines in route -n
[01:10] <root____> it says connection refused, no protocol and can't open display
[01:10] <kin> thats why i can connect via pptp
[01:11] <ozehka> hey, numbers from "seq" are in format 1,23 but i want them in 1.23 - i know its my locale, but if i check the kde-locale-settings seperator is set on "." actually
[01:11] <root____> oh do I have to restart kde
[01:11] <ardchoille> lovre: There's no transparency around the edhes of the window in that screenshot either. The one you are probably talking about is the amarok window, that's a music player.
[01:11] <ardchoille> root____: Did you edit xorg.conf?
[01:11] <ozehka> "locale" gives me "de_DE.utf8" though (not what i want)
[01:12] <root____> ardchoille: yeah
[01:12] <ozehka> so someone locale and kde-settings do not agree
[01:12] <ozehka> any help?
[01:12] <kin> maybe a dumb question: is firewall standard in kubuntu? and which virus protection do you recommend?
[01:12] <root____> ardchoille: also man I have no window borders
[01:12] <ardchoille> root____: Anytime you edit xorg.conf, you need to restart x. did you do that?
[01:12] <root____> k i will restart
[01:12] <root____> bbl
[01:12] <lovre> ardchoille: and why didnt the taskbar change? and the minimize and exit buttons on the windows? (sory to bother you this much)
[01:14] <ardchoille> lovre: It's no bother. Sometimes the kicker doesn't change and you have to restart kicker. But, be aware that restarting kicker will kill any apps that use a tray icon (like gaim and konversation). to restart kicker do: : dcop kicker default restart
[01:15] <lovre> ardchoille: what is kicker anyways?
[01:15] <ardchoille> lovre: it's the panel across the bottom of your screen.
[01:15] <lovre> i see
[01:15] <ardchoille> lovre: Keep in mind that is just a color scheme.. it won't change widget styles.
[01:16] <lovre> ardchoille: and what if i want to change a little more, like windows tranparency, button appeareance and rest?
[01:17] <dhjfhkdsjf> how do i install something in linux
[01:17] <LjL> !software > dhjfhkdsjf    (dhjfhkdsjf, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:17] <dhjfhkdsjf> wats the basic command
[01:17] <ardchoille> lovre: For winodw borders, you need a kwin decoration. For controls (buttons, scrollbars, etc), you need a style. Both types are on kde-look.org
[01:18] <ownz> hola
[01:19] <ardchoille> lovre: For transparency it's best to have 3d hardware accelleration (ati, nvidia, etc) and the appropriate drivers. But transparency can be done totally in kde with kompmgr
[01:19] <wii> kget su*** >_<
[01:20] <ardchoille> Wow, lots of question I can actually answer from folks today. Makes me feel needed :)
[01:20] <wii> aah not realy
[01:20] <lovre> ardchoille: i entered 'kompmgr' in console, but nothing happened, the windows just shortly dissappeared and the reappeared
[01:21] <nathan__> oh my god this is sooooooooo slow
[01:21] <ardchoille> lovre: You need to edit xorg to get that working
[01:21] <lovre> ardchoille: i see windows transparent... its slow, how do i turn it off?
[01:21] <nathan__> there's literally a 5 second delay from click to focus
[01:22] <nathan__> whoever wrote this transparency needs to be beaten
[01:22] <dwidmann> I'm having a peculiar problem with grub, seems it doesn't want to read the configfile, it jumps to a shell at boot and I have to "configfile /grub/menu.lst" for it to read it ...
[01:22] <wii> PIKACHUU >_<
[01:22] <lovre> ardchoille: i quit console and it stoped :D
[01:22] <lovre> ardchoille: why is it so slow?
[01:23] <wii> lovre: why didnt u take off the r off your name?
[01:23] <ardchoille> lovre: do you have a good graphics card (nvidia)?
[01:23] <wii> PIKACHUU >_<*
[01:23] <nathan__> wow that was the most terrible thing ever
[01:23] <nathan__> I'm not doing kde translucency ever again until it's fixed
[01:23] <ardchoille> nathan__: I have an nvidia card and it's fast for me
[01:23] <lovre> ardchoille: yes, i have nVidia 7900GS that runs all new games like colin DIRT and such
[01:24] <ardchoille> lovre: did you edit xorg.conf and restart x?
[01:24] <lovre> wii: because it has nothing to do with the world 'love'
[01:24] <lovre> ar
[01:24] <nathan__> ardchoille: gnome transparencies was super smooth. kde translucency literally 5 seconds from click to focus
[01:24] <lovre> ardchoille: where do i find xorg.conf file?
[01:24] <DaSkreech> ardchoille: You are needed :)
[01:24] <nathan__> I have a 7900 too
[01:24] <nathan__> i think
[01:24] <wii> lovre: so hat does it mean?lovre?
[01:25] <lovre> wii
[01:25] <lovre> wii: it is a name, it has no meaning. at least none i could translate
[01:25] <wii> help me im trying to install my webcam trust wb-5400
[01:25] <ardchoille> lovre: Here is some info about it. I followed this section of this tutorial and had transparency working in minutes and it was fast: http://baghira.sourceforge.net/OS_Clone-en.php#step7
[01:25] <wii> lovre: your name su*** then >_<
[01:26] <lovre> wii: thank you, that is really mature.
[01:26] <ardchoille> nathan__: Did you edit xorg.conf and restart x before trying the kompmgr transparency?
[01:26] <DaSkreech> !webcam | wii
[01:26] <ubotu> wii: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[01:26] <ardchoille> wii: Please try to be nice to others.
[01:26] <wii> lovre: u welcome q_p
[01:26] <DaSkreech> !coc | wii
[01:27] <nathan__> ardchoille: yeah at the same time
[01:27] <ubotu> wii: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[01:27] <nathan__> my screen is all off center now too
[01:27] <nathan__> ill brb
[01:28] <nathan__> god that was painful
[01:29] <wii> DaSkreech: coc??? wa is that will it help me for my cam?
[01:29] <nathan__> how do I tell what kind of video card is in here
[01:29] <nathan__> I know it's nvidia 7 something
[01:29] <DaSkreech> No that's the code of conduct for people in this channel please read it
[01:29] <ardchoille> Well folks, all I can say is I have nvidia GeForce 6200 card and drivers on an AMD Sempron 2800 with 2gb ram and got transparency working great with just kompmgr
[01:29] <DaSkreech>  the link above that was for your webcam
[01:30] <nathan__> nvm i found it
[01:34] <nathan__> ardchoille: i have a dual core xeon 2.3 with a geforce 7300
[01:34] <ardchoille> nathan__: fwiw, the translucency in kcontrol is still experimental, iirc
[01:34] <nathan__> yeah it is
[01:35] <nathan__> can you help with my borders
[01:35] <nathan__> or lack of
[01:35] <ardchoille> nathan__: Perhaps try xcompmgr for transparency?
[01:35] <ardchoille> nathan__: You lost your window borders with the kompmgr stuff?
[01:36] <nathan__> i can't because it says i can't make executables or something remember?
[01:36] <wii> why when i lauch beryl everything is white?
[01:36] <nathan__> I don't think I ever had it
[01:36] <ardchoille> nathan__: xcompmgr is in the repos
[01:36] <ardchoille> !info xcompmgr
[01:36] <ubotu> xcompmgr: X composition manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.3~20060831-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 19 kB, installed size 80 kB
[01:36] <ardchoille> !compile | nathan__
[01:36] <ubotu> nathan__: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:37] <ardchoille> nathan__: You probably need to install build-essential if you're going to build apps
[01:40] <lovre> how do i find out what KDE version im running?
[01:40] <DaSkreech> !beryl | wii
[01:40] <ubotu> wii: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:40] <DaSkreech> lovre: It's in every help menu
[01:40] <DaSkreech> help _> about KDE
[01:40] <lovre> DaSkreech: thank you
[01:40] <wii> DaSkreech: no one answering in ubuntu effects
[01:41] <DaSkreech> wii: Ah. I know about a black bug I don't know about a white one
[01:41] <wii> lol
[01:41] <SeanTater> I was looking at my IO stats, to find that my HD is doing 1210 10 byte reads per second. Is there a way I can make it read, say, 4096 bytes at a time instead?
[01:41] <wii> DaSkreech: how do u solve the white on then?
[01:43] <DaSkreech> wii: the windows are white?
[01:43] <wii> DaSkreech: yes
[01:44] <wii> DaSkreech: when i spend the cube everything white xsept the red diamond
[01:44] <DaSkreech> The diamond?
[01:44] <NickPresta> DaSkreech, I assume he means the gem
[01:44] <DaSkreech> Ah right
[01:44] <DaSkreech> the beryl
[01:44] <ardchoille> the ruby?
[01:45] <DaSkreech> Do you have trandparency turned on?
[01:45] <DaSkreech> ardchoille: Its a beryl I think
[01:45] <ardchoille> DaSkreech: Ah
[01:45] <kin> quetiion: where can i find the file containing the settings shown with   route -n?
[01:45] <wii> DaSkreech: in the  beryl manager or inkde option?
[01:46] <kinkajou> hey guys i got another question
[01:46] <DaSkreech> wii: in beryl
[01:46] <ardchoille> I do hope root__ remembered that I had him backup his xorg.conf before editing it
[01:46] <wii> DaSkreech: no
[01:46] <kinkajou> how to i run driver updates .run file.... complete noob
[01:46] <ardchoille> kinkajou: Is this a video driver, ati, nvidia?
[01:47] <kinkajou> ati
[01:47] <DaSkreech> wii: The desktops are white? or the windows within?
[01:47] <kinkajou> yes video driver
[01:47] <DaSkreech> kinkajou: why don't you use the ones Kubuntu provides?
[01:47] <kinkajou> where at? XD
[01:47] <ardchoille> kinkajou: Did you know that the ati driver is in the repos and will update when you run system updates?
[01:47] <wii> DaSkreech: everything white
[01:47] <kinkajou> no idea
[01:48] <ardchoille> !ati | kinkajou
[01:48] <DaSkreech> wii: Do you have inside cube turned on?
[01:48] <ubotu> kinkajou: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:48] <kinkajou> k ty
[01:48] <wii> DaSkreech: no
[01:48] <ardchoille> yw
[01:48] <wii> wiiiiiiiiiii :D
[01:48] <wii> whit mii
[01:48] <wii> on wii
[01:49] <wii> :/
[01:49] <ivan_> can anyone provide some help on getting konqueror working?
[01:49] <wii> crank the wii now
[01:49] <lovre> i downloaded something and its .rpm extension., how do i use it?
[01:49] <wii> ivan_: it's not working?
[01:50] <ardchoille> lovre: You don't use rpm's in kubuntu
[01:50] <ardchoille> lovre: mixing distro packages is dangerous
[01:50] <wii> lovre: kubuntu dont use rpm only deb
[01:50] <NickPresta> kinkajou, hey
[01:50] <ardchoille> lovre: What is it? an app?
[01:50] <wii> lovre: but u can convert it to deb
[01:50] <ivan_> yeah, internet seeems to work (I'm here)
[01:50] <ardchoille> wii: That still dangerous
[01:50] <Chousuke> wii: that's strongly discouraged
[01:50] <ivan_> but nothing in konqueror
[01:50] <lovre> ardchoille: ok, thanx
[01:51] <ardchoille> lovre: What is it? an app?
[01:51] <wii> Chousuke: lol
[01:51] <ardchoille> lovre: It may be in the repos
[01:51] <DaSkreech> lovre: what was it?
[01:51] <wii> lovre: why did u download an rpm what are u looking for is not in adept?
[01:51] <DaSkreech> wii: nvidia?
[01:52] <ardchoille> wii: He probably didn't know to look in the repos
[01:52] <wii> DaSkreech: yes nv
[01:52] <wii> DaSkreech: it's not my graph card is the problem because it did me the same problem whit my ati
[01:53] <DaSkreech> what version of beryl?
[01:53] <kinkajou> yeah?
[01:53] <DaSkreech> lovre: What was the name of the file?
[01:54] <wii> DaSkreech: the last on
[01:54] <ivan_> does anyone have suggestions  why konqueror won't work, but I can get here? Sorry, this is my first day with kubuntu
[01:54] <DaSkreech> wii: Ah have you asked in #beryl then ?
[01:54] <DaSkreech> ivan_: Won't work?
[01:54] <wii> ivan_: u try firefox?
[01:54] <ardchoille> ivan_: Define "won't work". do you get errors? crashes?
[01:55] <ivan_> "could not load www.google.com"
[01:55] <ivan_> etc..
[01:55] <ivan_> I have proxies turned off
[01:55] <DaSkreech> ivan_: Does Kopete konversation etc work?
[01:55] <ivan_> yeah, that's what I'm using right now
[01:55] <DaSkreech> well that rules out knetworkmanager
[01:55] <ivan_> Konversation
[01:56] <ardchoille> DaSkreech: I uninstalled knetworkmanager. Was it a vital app?
[01:56] <DaSkreech> Naw
[01:56] <ardchoille> whew
[01:56] <wii> ivan_: what?
[01:56] <ivan_> I'm using Konversation right now
[01:57] <ivan_> but Konqueror cannot find any pages
[01:57] <kinkajou> anyone running wow in wine?
[01:57] <ardchoille> ivan_: Can you load other sites into konq? yahoo? dogpile.com? ubuntu.com?
[01:57] <lovre> DaSkreech: sory, i was afk. Im following instructions. And it says: Go to Configure Panel-->Appearance-->Panel Background"
[01:57] <lovre> DaSkreech: where can i find that?
[01:57] <DaSkreech> eh?
[01:57] <ivan_> the same, can't load any of them
[01:58] <lovre> DaSkreech: "Go to Configure Panel-->Appearance-->Panel Background"
[01:58] <lovre> DaSkreech: where is that?
[01:58] <DaSkreech> lovre: Which panel?
[01:58] <ivan_> google, cnn, ctv, ubuntu, kijiji, etc
[01:58] <ivan_> none of them work
[01:58] <lovre> DaSkreech: i dont know, it says just like that
[01:58] <ardchoille> lovre: Desktop > Panels > Panel Background
[01:58] <DaSkreech> !wow
[01:58] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[01:59] <kinkajou> anyone run WoW in wine?
[01:59] <ardchoille> lovre: They change the names of the modules in kcontrol from time to time
[01:59] <DaSkreech> kinkajou: Pretty sure. check in #winehq
[01:59] <ardchoille> kinkajou: See the link ubotu just posted
[01:59] <kinkajou> k
[02:00] <ivan_> do I need to restart after connecting to my router in order for konqueror to connect?
[02:00] <NickPresta> ivan_, you shouldn't, nope
[02:00] <ivan_> that's what I thought
[02:00] <lovre> ardchoille: i cant find Panels in Desktop, is that in System Settings?
[02:00] <wii> ivan_: are u using a modem? and what thing u are using to conect to the net?
[02:00] <DaSkreech> ivan_: did you kill konqueror?
[02:00] <wii> kppp?
[02:00] <wii> lol
[02:00] <ardchoille> lovre: I do't use system settings, I use kcontrol
[02:00] <DaSkreech> restart konqui I mean
[02:00] <ivan_> it's not a  router problem, my other laptop running xp can connect
[02:01] <ivan_> yeah, I restart konqueror
[02:01] <wii> DaSkreech: i know he was a mude*****
[02:01] <wii> :/
[02:01] <DaSkreech> :-P
[02:01] <wii> miiiiiii aint saying nothing
[02:02] <wii> ivan_: the router is not the problem it's amybe your configs?
[02:02] <ivan_> well, yes, but where can I go to check my configs?
[02:02] <DaSkreech> it would have to be konqueror specific
[02:02] <wii> ivan_: this your first time conecting to the net on linux?
[02:02] <ivan_> yes
[02:02] <DaSkreech> have you ever been online with konqueror?
[02:02] <ivan_> no
[02:03] <ivan_> I just installed lastnight
[02:03] <ivan_> and this is my first time online, I just got eth1 working
[02:03] <district> hi anyone i like to know how to uninstall a program - ?
[02:03] <ardchoille> DaSkreech: Isn't there a text only web browser installed by default that he can test? I think it is w3c or somesuch
[02:03] <district> a program
[02:03] <DaSkreech> w3m
[02:03] <ardchoille> that's it
[02:03] <ivan_> I can't even connect to my router's page, 192.168.0.1
[02:03] <wii> ivan_: u maybe touch and change to many things.in what port your router does plugin too?
[02:03] <nathan__> man this would be nicer if I had borders on my windows lol
[02:04] <ivan_> I'm wireless
[02:04] <ivan_> my router is working fine
[02:04] <wii> ivan_: usb then?
[02:04] <ivan_> no
[02:04] <ivan_> internal to the laptop
[02:04] <ivan_> like I said, I'm on the laptop right now talking in this room on konversation
[02:04] <ivan_> so I think that should rule out any hardware problems
[02:05] <district> i like to know how to install and then uninstall a bin file.
[02:05] <ivan_> and my router works fine, all other computers on the network
[02:05] <ivan_> work
[02:05] <ivan_> so I should try w3m?
[02:05] <DaSkreech> district: A what file?
[02:05] <wii> ivan_: yes i know that , i had the same problem the first time i conect linux to the net i change to many things and only konversation was working
[02:05] <district> googleearth.bin
[02:05] <ardchoille> ivan_: See if it will connect:  w3m www.google.com
[02:06] <ivan_> ok, I'll try that
[02:06] <ivan_> I can ping, btw,
[02:06] <ivan_> I pinged www.google.com, and it works
[02:06] <enzo_> Is it possible to watch a video in CLI?
[02:06] <wii> ivan_: all the other computer is on the network because they on xp
[02:06] <enzo_> If I were to remove the KDE GUI, can I use the CLI to watch videos?
[02:06] <ivan_> well, yes, they are on xp
[02:07] <district> i got it installed using command  district bash filename.bin
[02:07] <ivan_> but the point is that the router works for them, and I don't have any DMZ's or conditional access setup for them
[02:07] <ivan_> my router is wide open
[02:07] <ardchoille> district: What app is it? It may be in the repos
[02:07] <district> i don't know
[02:07] <ardchoille> o.O
[02:07] <ivan_> ok, so w3m works, I can load www.google.com
[02:08] <ivan_> :)
[02:08] <district> it installed
[02:08] <ardchoille> ivan_: Sounds like a konq problem, then
[02:08] <ivan_> that's what I'm thinking
[02:08] <ardchoille> district: You don't know what app it is and you installed it?
[02:08] <district> showed icon for googleearth
[02:08] <wii> ivan_: im not saying your router have a problem im just saying when u try to conect to the net u must of change some option that u didnt had to touche.for me when i plug in my router for the first time it connected on time
[02:08] <wii> ivan_: try puting back everything to default
[02:09] <ivan_> yes, wii, some things work first time for some, but not for others. I already reset everything to default
[02:09] <ivan_> can I reinstall konq?
[02:09] <district> it's under internet
[02:09] <district> if that's what u mean
[02:09] <ivan_> yeah, I know where to run it
[02:09] <ivan_> but how can I access an uninstall function?
[02:10] <DaSkreech> enzo_: yes
[02:10] <DaSkreech> en
[02:10] <enzo_> DaSkreech: How?
[02:11] <district> i cliked the icon and it says     --- The desktop entry file /home/district/Desktop/Google-googleearth.desktop has no Type=... entry.
[02:11] <DaSkreech> enzo_: I watched the whole world cup from the command line
[02:11] <DaSkreech>  aalib
[02:11] <district> what's that mean?
[02:11] <DaSkreech> district: It's funky :)
[02:11] <DaSkreech> district: did it ask you for a place to install?
[02:11] <district> yes
[02:12] <NickPresta> enzo_, http://www.oreilly.com/pub/h/4441
[02:12] <district> i had it instaled in home/apps folder
[02:12] <wii> wiiiiiiiiiii :D
[02:12] <wii> whit mii
[02:12] <wii> on wii
[02:13] <district> but there's lock symbol on that icon
[02:13] <district> do i unlock it to have it work?
[02:13] <DaSkreech> district: really? you need to change it's permissons then
[02:14] <ivan_> I'm going to try firefox instead I think
[02:14] <wii> wii will wiii will rock you
[02:14] <wii> rock u
[02:14] <ardchoille> wii: That's becomging annoying
[02:14] <district> how do i change its permission Ddaskreetch?
[02:14] <wii> ardchoille: sowwiii :(
[02:15] <lovre> i dont get this. I isntalled Emerald, and now i have Emerald Theme Manager, where i can see themes, but i dont know how to apply them ...???????? Please help
[02:15] <ardchoille> lovre: usually we refer people to #ubuntu-effects for compiz/beryl help
[02:16] <lovre> omw
[02:16] <DaSkreech> !permissions
[02:16] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[02:16] <DaSkreech> district: ^^^
[02:16] <wii> lovre: keep looking where not here to hold your hand for ever
[02:16] <DaSkreech> wii: did you ask in #beryl /
[02:16] <DaSkreech> ?
[02:16] <ivan_> firefox works! :)
[02:17] <ardchoille> ivan_: it's gotta be a konq problem
[02:18] <ivan_> yeah, that's ok, I'll worry about it later I guess
[02:18] <wii> DaSkreech: yes i told them when i had the same problem i was playing around with stuff and it started to work good.they told me there's my answer keep playing around with the stuff and it will come back good :/ les batard
[02:18] <wii> >_<
[02:18] <DaSkreech> Ha ha :)
[02:18] <DaSkreech> Well I'm upgrading to gutsy
[02:18] <ivan_> I found firefox as part of add/remove when I went to remove konq
[02:19] <ardchoille> ivan_: firefox is much better, IMHO
[02:19] <ardchoille> lol
[02:19] <wii> DaSkreech: show mii some pics to see what gusty look like and if it better looking then feisty
[02:19] <DaSkreech> wii: Naw
[02:20] <ivan_> yeah
[02:20] <ivan_> what is the recommended msn messenger client?
[02:20] <ardchoille> wii: Pfft, looks can be changed very easily
[02:20] <enzo_> SWEET
[02:20] <ardchoille> ivan_: kopete ?
[02:20] <enzo_> thank you DaSkreech and NickPresta
[02:20] <wii> ardchoille: i dont like to play with looks to much
[02:20] <ivan_> that's the only choice?
[02:21] <NickPresta> enzo_, :) Just make sure you don't set the dimensions too high or else X will lock up (it does for me anyways)...
[02:21] <DaSkreech> ivan_: Any one you like
[02:21] <DaSkreech>  !MSN
[02:21] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[02:21] <district> daskreech, where should that file be in, under what folder? can u put it in home directory?
[02:21] <DaSkreech> there is also amsn which tries to be MSN
[02:21] <DaSkreech> district: what should what be?
[02:22] <district> is that why  it's locked?
[02:22] <district> googleearth.bin file
[02:22] <DaSkreech> district: yes you can put it anywhere you like. You just need rights to run it
[02:22] <district> where should it be in?
[02:23] <ardchoille> district: Did you install it with sudo?
[02:23] <district> i think i did
[02:23] <ardchoille> That's probably why it's locked
[02:23] <district> then it asked for folder to put it in
[02:24] <ardchoille> district: Anything that is unpacked/installed with sudo will most likely use root's permissions.
[02:24] <district> ok, so how do i uninstall it then
[02:24] <district> and then reinstall it back
[02:24] <lovre> ardchoille: can everything in KDE apeareance be reset to defaults? i messed everything up :(
[02:25] <DaSkreech> district: if you still have the .run file you can just delete the folder that it made
[02:25] <district> i didn't get that
[02:25] <ardchoille> lovre: In kcontrol, there is a "Defaults" button at the bottom of most sections. That should revert to defaults.
[02:26] <ardchoille> lovre: But, maybe I can help you fix it without doing that. What did you do?
[02:26] <lovre> ardchoille: little bit of everything.........
[02:26] <district> don't i have to delete other files also?
[02:26] <ardchoille> lovre: lol
[02:26] <district> in i don't know /usr/ directory?
[02:26] <lovre> ardchoille: i know, its stupid, but i was experimenting
[02:27] <ardchoille> lovre: Ok, let's try a different way.. what do you *want* to do?
[02:27] <nathan__> I figured out how to fix the transparency issue
[02:27] <lovre> ardchoille: and everything is wierd, the font, the icons...
[02:27] <nathan__> it runs smooth now =] ] 
[02:27] <ardchoille> nathan__: What did you do?
[02:27] <nathan__> first I took out the changes the walkthrough said to do
[02:27] <ardchoille> lovre: You should be able to change thos ethings in kcontrol to something you like better.
[02:27] <district> what's in this /usr/ directory and /var/ directory anyway
[02:27] <lovre> ardchoille: for starters, since i couldnt apply any theme to the end (only partially) i would like to set everything to original settings, like it was when i insttalled
[02:28] <nathan__> then I dpkg reconfigured so that xorg would redo the default config
[02:28] <nathan__> which I coulda skipped the first step
[02:28] <nathan__> but anyways
[02:28] <wii> im going on a break my momy want me to wash the dishes
[02:28] <wii> :(
[02:28] <ardchoille> lovre: Try that Defaults button, other than that, there is no "default" set of themes. Just pick and chose what you want.
[02:28] <nathan__> then I downloaded the linux 64bit general nvidia driver
[02:28] <nathan__> then I told it to compile for my system instead of downloading
[02:28] <nathan__> now it is beatiful
[02:29] <nathan__> I'm guessing the other guy is using nv driver
[02:29] <ardchoille> nathan__: Glad you got it working
[02:29] <DaSkreech> wii: ok
[02:29] <nathan__> now I gotta figure out why I have no borders
[02:29] <ardchoille> nathan__: I don't think the nv driver can do that
[02:29] <lovre> ardchoille: i have chosen default for everything. But icons are still small, and font is still toooo big.
[02:29] <DaSkreech> ardchoille: Bye. Gutsy upgrade
[02:29] <lovre> but its set to default
[02:29] <lovre> maybe a restart
[02:29] <lovre> ardchoille: ?
[02:29] <nathan__> ardchoille: can do what
[02:30] <ardchoille> lovre: So change the font size and the icons
[02:30] <lovre> ardchoille: :D omw
[02:30] <nathan__> ardchoille: no i was talking about slow transparency not his font issues
[02:30] <ardchoille> nathan__: The nv driver is 2d only and I don't think it can do trans.
[02:30] <nathan__> oh yeah
[02:30] <ardchoille> lovre: That's the point of kcontrol, you can change mostly anything to mostly anything and not break anything.
[02:31] <nathan__> any idea how to fix no borders
[02:31] <wii> Daisuke_Ido: dont cry if everything goes wrong with gusty
[02:31] <wii> hhhh
[02:31] <ardchoille> Sorry, I've never had a problem with borders
[02:31] <ardchoille> nathan__: You have no window borders at all?
[02:31] <district>  so many other files it installed - i don't know where and how many - daskreech how do i find them?
[02:32] <nathan__> ardchoille: actually now I do
[02:32] <nathan__> ardchoille: just noticed =] 
[02:32] <ardchoille> nathan__: ok
[02:32] <nathan__> thanks for all your help you are da boss
[02:32] <lovre> ardchoille: thats nice. Its looking better now. Thank you
[02:32] <nathan__> I'll be nice to you in dota if you play it
[02:32] <ardchoille> Nah, you did it yourself :)
[02:32] <ardchoille> lovre: yw :)
[02:33] <ardchoille> lovre: There are more styles/icons/etc in the repos too :)
[02:33] <lovre> repos?
[02:33] <ardchoille> !repos | lovre
[02:33] <ubotu> lovre: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:34] <nathan__> how do you know what apps are open if you remove the bottom bar?
[02:34] <ardchoille> nathan__: middle-click your desktop :)
[02:34] <lovre> ardchoille: i see, thank you once more. im in your depth (im not sure thats how you spell that word lol)
[02:35] <ardchoille> lovre: debt
[02:35] <district> hey am i the only one here having trouble with install/uninstall?
[02:36] <ardchoille> lovre: I love styles/themes. Let me know if I can help any further with them :)
[02:36] <ardchoille> district: Hold on, I'm looking for some info on it..
[02:36] <district> thanks
[02:37] <lovre> ardchoille: i didnt have any luck with themes/styles today, i would like to use them, but i dont see it happen
[02:37] <ardchoille> district: http://earth.google.com/support/bin/topic.py?topic=1135
[02:37] <chx> hi. I have various small keyboard problems... first, I have five keys on my laptop that I remapped using xmodmap, however it does not load automatically from /etc/X11/Xmodmap . Also I want to use english and hungarian layouts and use scroll lock to switch between the two. i managed to put the keyboard switcher to the tray but not using scroll lock :( (i did succeed on another machine but can't remember the how) . Finally, I have num lock and scroll
[02:37] <chx> lock on the same key on my external keyboard (it's an IBM  TrackPoint USB keyboard) , i would like to map ctrl+scroll lock to numlock.
[02:37] <ardchoille> lovre: I can guide you through those if you have the time sometime
[02:38] <lovre> ardchoille: yea, that would be great, that is, if YOU have time :D
[02:38] <district> thanks ardchoille
[02:38] <NickPresta> Can you close packet garden after you start "capturing" packet data or do I need to leave the application open?
[02:38] <lovre> ardchoille: you got MSN or ICQ or Skype or something?
[02:38] <ardchoille> lovre: I'm retired.. I have lots of time :)
[02:39] <lovre> ardchoille: i promise i wont bother you... . much.....
[02:39] <lovre> ardchoille: :D
[02:39] <ardchoille> lovre: Check your pm
[02:40] <lovre> ardchoille: i cant send private messages, i havent registered. The answer to your pm is: the first or the second, whatever
[02:40] <ardchoille> lovre: Try the pm again, I changed a setting in my nick
[03:05] <nazeeh> quick question: If i upgrade to the 7.10 beta now, will it upgrade to the final version when it's out with no issues?
[03:06] <sonoftheclayr> yep
[03:06] <nazeeh> let me say hi first :)
[03:06] <sonoftheclayr> Provided there aren't any major problems, but that is unlikely
[03:07] <nazeeh> that's what i am trying to figure out... should i expect any... i have 7.10 on my laptop and it looks pretty solid so far
[03:07] <sonoftheclayr> Well the only thing I can think of that will go wrong is if a package has a problem upgrading or something like that but at this stage most of the packages are finalised so that shouldn't happen
[03:08] <nazeeh> nice. Thank you helping :)
[03:08] <sonoftheclayr> np
[03:08] <sonoftheclayr> If you do have any problems remember to ask in #ubuntu+1
[03:09] <nazeeh> Nice...didn't know about that channel
[03:09] <nazeeh> upgrade started...
[03:10] <jhutchins> This is what happens when you can put a Linux webserver on-line without ever reading a single doc file or having to look at that horrIfying command line: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/10/03/ebay_paypal_online_banking/
[03:13] <Lega> So, I'm considering getting one of those 80gb Zunes when they come out... how well do you think the software (or lack there of) would bide in Linux?
[03:14] <Lega> I mean, I don't know much about them- if they act like a big HD, then dumping .mp3s onto them would be a sinch. I suspect the software is needed, though.
[03:16] <ardchoille> !info kbiff
[03:16] <ubotu> kbiff: KDE mail notification utility. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.8.0-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 261 kB, installed size 1184 kB
[03:19] <MythbuntuGuest04> hello
[03:20] <MythbuntuGuest04> anyone here?
[03:20] <nazeeh> Lega: i don't think there is any linux support for the zune
[03:21] <NickPresta> nazeeh, Lega, you might want to check out libmtp6 (the one with Feisty is quite old). It works with other MTP devices...
[03:21] <Lega> Hmm, alright. Thanks. ^^
[03:22] <Lega> If all else fails I'll just install the software uponz my VirtualBox of WinXP.
[03:25] <Juacom99> can anyone plese help me with this error messaje
[03:25] <Juacom99> ./psc: error while loading shared libraries: libCgGL.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:26] <Juacom99> soulrider: you are uruguayan :|
[03:27] <soulrider> yes
[03:27] <Juacom99> me too
[03:28] <Juacom99> :)
[03:28] <soulrider> :)
[03:29] <Juacom99> did you recive my pm soulrider??
[03:30] <soulrider> nope, you'll ahve to register
[03:30] <Juacom99> who so i do that and what's for :S
[03:30] <Jucato> to be able to send PM's, you need to register your nick
[03:31] <Jucato> !register
[03:31] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[03:31] <Juacom99> what else i can do benn registred??
[03:32] <hydrogen> i can has register?
[03:33] <soulrider> hey Juacom99
[03:33] <soulrider> Jucato *
[03:33] <Jucato> hi soulrider
[03:33] <Juacom99> i think is done
[03:34] <Juacom99>  /msg NickServ HELP REGISTER>
[03:34] <Juacom99>  /msg nickserv juacom99
[03:34] <soulrider> uhm
[03:34] <Jucato> hohumm...
[03:34] <Juacom99> :S
[03:34] <Jucato> better assist him soulrider
[03:35] <Juacom99> i use konversation
[03:35] <soulrider> Juacom99: -> #ayuda
[03:35] <Juacom99> #ayuda
[03:35] <Juacom99> nop
[03:36] <soulrider> click ahi :P
[03:36] <soulrider> Juacom99: hace click en #ayuda
[03:37] <Creationist> Can someone suggest a decent non-linear video editor?  Must support timeline and be easy to use.  I'm used to Ulead...
[03:37] <Jucato> kino? kdenlive?
[03:38] <BluesKaj> avidemux ?
[03:38] <Creationist> Jucato: Yeah, I've looked at those... terrible interfaces and poor features.  hmm...
[03:38] <Creationist> Maybe I should just try running Ulead with Wine
[03:38] <BluesKaj> tovid
[03:40] <NickPresta> I haven't found anything that replaces Premier Pro or Final Cut so I know how you feel, Creationist
[03:41] <christian_> hi
[03:41] <NickPresta> !hi | christian_
[03:41] <ubotu> christian_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[03:41] <christian_> what program i need for unpacking archives wit extension .RAR
[03:41] <christian_> :/
[03:41] <christian_> please help me
[03:41] <ardchoille> !rar
[03:41] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[03:41] <jarrod_> hey
[03:41] <tobias> !info unrar-free | christian_
[03:41] <ubotu> christian_: unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[03:42] <NickPresta> !hi | jarrod_
[03:42] <ubotu> jarrod_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[03:42] <christian_> sudo apt-get install unrar-free
[03:42] <christian_> ?
[03:42] <NickPresta> christian_, yep
[03:42] <christian_> thank u:D
[03:42] <jarrod_> anyone know of a verison of kubuntu that isn't preloaded with software?
[03:42] <Creationist> jarrod_: There isn't one.
[03:42] <Dragnslcr> Uh
[03:42] <NickPresta> jarrod_, I would assume the server install would have what you want. You can choose to install kubuntu-desktop, kde on it's own, or whatever else you like
[03:43] <Creationist> jarrod_: Although I hope at one point Ubuquity will allow package selection...
[03:43] <jarrod_> ubuquity?
[03:43] <Creationist> jarrod_: That's the installation program
[03:43] <Creationist> Ubiquity, actually ;)
[03:44] <Jucato> christian_: you might find that some .rar files won't work with unrar-free, then you might want to install the plain unrar
[03:45] <soulrider> !find libCgGL
[03:45] <ubotu> Package/file libcggl does not exist in feisty
[03:46] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: hey... you there?
[03:46] <Jucato> it's a plugin for PS emulators. need to download that somewhere
[03:47] <christian_> xD
[03:47] <bazhang> greetings all
[03:47] <Juacom99> !find libCgGL
[03:47] <ubotu> Package/file libcggl does not exist in feisty
 it's a plugin for PS emulators. need to download that somewhere
[03:48] <Juacom99> the quiestion is where :S
[03:48] <soulrider> !bot > Juacom99
[03:48] <Jucato> the internet?
[03:49] <Juacom99> i did
[03:49] <Juacom99> with no luck
[03:50] <Juacom99> i google libcggl download
[03:50] <Juacom99> and i get no result :S
[03:57] <BluesKaj> yeah, nosrednaekim , I'm back
[03:57] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: yeah... that ATI driver thing doesn't like AMD64..
[03:58] <BluesKaj> bummer
[03:58] <nosrednaekim> yeah...
[03:59] <BluesKaj> you running 64 bit gutsy
[03:59] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- were the one that mentioned a while ago that you had bought a Dellbuntu?
[03:59] <BluesKaj> no
[03:59] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: thats Daisuke_Laptop
[03:59] <nosrednaekim> or Daisuke_Ido
[03:59] <Dragnslcr> Ah, that's right
[04:00] <Dragnslcr> Your names are so similar
[04:00] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[04:00] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: yeah... 64 bit gutsy... works really really well, my sound quality went through the roof... I think it actually qualifies as a HDA chipset now ;)
[04:01] <Dragnslcr> Ooh, I'll look forward to that
[04:01] <BluesKaj> really the realtek soundcard ?
[04:01] <Dragnslcr> Hopefully it's the Gutsy part and not the 64-bit part
[04:02] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: yeah
[04:02] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: its the gutsy part/...
[04:06] <MythbuntuGuest04> hello
[04:06] <jarrod_> okay, I have some noob business to take care of today. the layers of kubuntu are, correct me if I am at all wrong, kernal ( the "linux")- does the mounting and interanl magic, shell- BASh, X-org, controles the window manager, then finally KDE (or gnome) makes the magic?
[04:06] <jarrod_> in that order?
[04:07] <Tm_T> sort of that yes
[04:07] <nosrednaekim> jarrod_: more or less
[04:08] <MythbuntuGuest04> hello
[04:09] <ardchoille> jarrod_: That's pretty good for a noob :)
[04:09] <jarrod_> ardchoille thx -_-
[04:09] <MythbuntuGuest04> yea, that does soung good.. i do not know what it means
[04:10] <ardchoille> lol
[04:11] <Tm_T> !away > lovre`sleep
[04:12] <ardchoille> jarrod_: KDM (kde display manager) is in there between xorg and kde iirc.
[04:14] <MythbuntuGuest04> is there a linux-mce chat room.. or can yall help me?
[04:14] <MythbuntuGuest04> i am tring to install linux mce
[04:14] <Dragnslcr> I don't buy it. If you even know that the word "kernel" refers to something other than popcorn, you aren't a noob
[04:14] <Tm_T> !mce
[04:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mce - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:14] <Tm_T> hmm
[04:15] <MythbuntuGuest04> ubotu what is that?
[04:15] <Tm_T> MythbuntuGuest04: ubotu is a bot
[04:15] <kane> Does anyone happen to know how to make a microphone not play whatever it picks up through the speakers?
[04:16] <Tm_T> intelikey: EEEK rooot!
[04:17] <kane> like how to turn the loopback off i think it is
[04:17] <citrusflavord> poll: what is everyone using for irc?
[04:18] <mneptok> citrusflavord: a laptop
[04:18] <intelikey> freenode.net
[04:18] <intelikey> :)
[04:18] <citrusflavord> looks like we got some wisenhimers in here
[04:18] <intelikey> citrusflavord all joking aside.  bx here mate
[04:18] <intelikey> citrusflavord several   yes
[04:18] <MythbuntuGuest04> Tm_t how did i know to talk to me?
[04:19] <mneptok> intelikey: you should check out ankh.bx
[04:19] <mneptok> intelikey: i *cannot* use bx without it
[04:19] <citrusflavord> Ive had konversation crash twice today...
[04:19] <Tm_T> MythbuntuGuest04: because I commanded it
[04:19] <intelikey> mneptok it's for ?
[04:20] <citrusflavord> Im trying ksirc for now
[04:20] <mneptok> intelikey: sane text presentation. it makes bx ~648723165871236* more readable. :)
[04:20] <mneptok> intelikey: fetching URL ...
[04:20] <Tm_T> citrusflavord: irssi here
[04:20] <mneptok> intelikey: http://www.holoweb.net/~liam/bx/
[04:21] <intelikey> mneptok hmmm ok.   nothing in that list that looks interesting to me   but i'll give it a look see  anyway
[04:21] <mneptok> intelikey: downloads here - http://www.holoweb.net/~liam/ftp/ankh.bx/
[04:21] <intelikey> k
[04:21] <citrusflavord> ooo the client of the future irssi
[04:22] <mneptok> intelikey: most reactions either fall into "cool, but not my cuppa" or "christ, how did i live without this?!"
[04:23] <intelikey> heh.  new one for the list.    oh docs.    i dont read docs  :)
[04:26] <DaSkreech> !adeptcrashfix
[04:26] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[04:27] <DaSkreech> usser: poorly
[04:28] <usser> DaSkreech: this cant be called living
[04:29] <MythbuntuGuest04> why is my kubuntu downloading so slow?
[04:29] <DaSkreech> net sucks?
[04:29] <MythbuntuGuest04> it it like 44kps on my windows lap top i get over 300kps
[04:29] <intelikey> because of a bandwidth limit some place
[04:29] <imp> where this place
[04:30] <DaSkreech> This is the internet
[04:30] <imp> oo ic
[04:30] <DaSkreech> We greet you in peace!
[04:30] <imp> who can i install beryl
[04:30] <DaSkreech> Sir Imp We are friends with your cousin the daemon!
[04:30] <citrusflavord> halp i keep getting "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executable" during ./confifure
[04:31] <MythbuntuGuest04> can i download it with my windows laptop and copy it to my kubuntu
[04:31] <imp> dashreech..where r u from
[04:32] <imp> yes..u can download it
[04:32] <DaSkreech> MythbuntuGuest04: What are you getting?
[04:32] <DaSkreech> imp: from 56k Modem land
[04:32] <MythbuntuGuest04> linux iso
[04:33] <DaSkreech> !beryl
[04:33] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:33] <DaSkreech> MythbuntuGuest04: Sure no problem
[04:33] <Search4Lancer> apparently the last time I took out my CompactFlash card, not all went well. Thunar thinks it's still in there, but when I insert it, nothing changes. It's not listed in /media, and Thunar claims "/dev/sdb1 is already mounted or /media/EOS_DIGITAL is busy" - however, there is no /media/EOS_DIGITAL, and neither is listed in mtab or fstab as being mounted (or at all) - solution? Preferably without rebooting or logging out,
[04:33] <Search4Lancer> due to other reasons?
[04:33] <DaSkreech> !iso
[04:33] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[04:34] <MythbuntuGuest04> do i use windows explorer?
[04:34] <hydrogen> I wouldn't
[04:34] <MythbuntuGuest04> how do i see my files?
[04:34] <hydrogen> but its up to you
[04:34] <hdevalence> Would I be correct in assuming that I can't change a 32-bit to a 64-bit install without reinstalling the OS?
[04:35] <MythbuntuGuest04> do is use konquorer?
[04:35] <hdevalence> MythbuntuGuest04: YEs
[04:35] <Search4Lancer> MythbuntuGuest04: Yes, you need to mount your Windows partition, which is read-only from Linux. There are walkthroughs to do so online
[04:36] <MythbuntuGuest04> even though it is on another computer?
[04:36] <Search4Lancer> It would've helped to know that information first
[04:36] <_2> burn to cd
[04:36] <MythbuntuGuest04> ok
[04:37] <Search4Lancer> anyway, anyone have the slightest idea as to my mount problem?
[04:37] <_2> Search4Lancer what it is ?
[04:37] <citrusflavord> Im starting to think trying kde 7.10 was a bad decision w/o much linux skillness
[04:37] <imp> plz..help me..i use kubuntu today..can u all teach for me
[04:37] <DaSkreech> citrusflavord: What?
[04:37] <DaSkreech> I missed KDE 4,5,6 totally?
[04:37] <NickPresta> citrusflavord, where did you get KDE 7.10? Time machine? :)
[04:37] <citrusflavord> Im starting to think trying kubuntu 7.10 was a bad decision w/o much linux skillness
[04:38] <DaSkreech> damn I knew I shouldn't have over slept
[04:38] <DaSkreech> :-(
[04:38] <NickPresta> DaSkreech, heh
[04:38] <BluesKaj> Search4Lancer, actually windows can be read-write from linux with ntfs-config installed
[04:38] <citrusflavord> cerally....gus
[04:38] <DaSkreech> citrusflavord: Did you read the first line in #ubuntu+1 ?
[04:38] <Search4Lancer> BluesKaj, was unaware, thanks for the info
[04:39] <DaSkreech> citrusflavord: what did you break?
[04:39] <DaSkreech> !ntfs3g
[04:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs3g - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:39] <DaSkreech> !ntfs-3g
[04:39] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[04:39] <BluesKaj> !ntfs-config
[04:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs-config - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:39] <DaSkreech> :-)
[04:39] <DaSkreech> !ntfs
[04:39] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:40] <BluesKaj> !info ntfs-config
[04:40] <ubotu> ntfs-config: Enable/disable write support for any NTFS devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.5-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 41 kB, installed size 432 kB
[04:40] <_2> Search4Lancer close thunar issue sudo umount /dev/sd*   restart thunar   ?
[04:40] <Search4Lancer> _2, exactly as you typed, with the wildcard, or no?
[04:40] <_2> with *
[04:41] <DaSkreech> Hi blessedBeef
[04:41] <_2> and don't worry about it dismounting / or /home  it wont.
[04:41] <citrusflavord> *** You must have either have gettext support in your C library, or use the
[04:41] <citrusflavord> *** GNU gettext library. (http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/gettext.html
[04:41] <holycow> evenin
[04:42] <citrusflavord> what does that mean?
[04:42] <DaSkreech> citrusflavord: install gettext
[04:42] <citrusflavord> okay :D
[04:43] <citrusflavord> im so confused right now i dont even remember what I am compiling
[04:43] <_2> hope it wasn't gettext
[04:44] <DaSkreech> ha ha
[04:44] <DaSkreech> citrusflavord: Why are you compiling ?
[04:44] <Search4Lancer> _2: umount: /dev/sdb1: not mounted
[04:44] <citrusflavord> if i remember it started when i wanted iriss
[04:45] <_2> here in #*buntu   we don't ask "what are you compiling?"  we simply ask "why?"
[04:45] <Search4Lancer> not really sure why Thunar even thinks it exists anymore anyway if it's not listed in mtab or fstab
[04:45] <_2> iriss ?      not irssi ?
[04:45] <pillowpants> ntfs-config is what ive been lacking
[04:45] <pillowpants> thanks whoever asked
[04:45] <pillowpants> ntfs-3g doesnt do anything
[04:45] <citrusflavord> _2 yea the second one
[04:46] <DaSkreech> !info irssi
[04:46] <ubotu> irssi: terminal based IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.10-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1010 kB, installed size 2788 kB
[04:46] <holycow> _2: *hear* *hear* brother
[04:46] <DaSkreech> You can install it from the  repos
[04:46] <pillowpants> bitchx is better
[04:46] <_2> Search4Lancer that's why i had you close thunar,   so when you reopened it did it still have that "glitch" ?
[04:46] <Search4Lancer> yeppers
[04:46] <citrusflavord> oh i found out i was compiling glib
[04:46] <_2> glib ???
[04:46] <_2> eeek
[04:46] <Search4Lancer> hang on, lemme try killing Thunar, since apparently it doesn't die when you close the window
[04:47] <NickPresta> Search4Lancer, sounds like a feature ;)
[04:47] <_2> yeap
[04:47] <citrusflavord> _2 hey, what glib btw
[04:47] <_2> like konqueror    doesn't die when you close it either i think
[04:48] <Search4Lancer> okay, killed Thunar, opened back up, still shows EOS_DIGITAL in the tree, but now the error it gives when trying to mount is "mount: No medium found"
[04:48] <Search4Lancer> success!
[04:49] <_2> !info glibc-doc
[04:49] <ubotu> glibc-doc: GNU C Library: Documentation. In component main, is optional. Version 2.5-0ubuntu14 (feisty), package size 3333 kB, installed size 8744 kB
[04:49] <Search4Lancer> thanks _2
[04:49] <_2> Search4Lancer np.
[04:49] <kevin06> bonjour
[04:49] <Search4Lancer> har har... I can get to the pics of my kitty cat that I took today now.... :-D
[04:49] <_2> citrusflavord the ubuntu == is libc6
[04:49] <_2> !info libc6
[04:49] <ubotu> libc6: GNU C Library: Shared libraries. In component main, is required. Version 2.5-0ubuntu14 (feisty), package size 4003 kB, installed size 9976 kB
[04:51] <citrusflavord> _2 all this stuff makes me feel way behind
[04:52] <_2> all i have to say about glib / libc6 is simply   "mess that up and system go down like curd in churn"
[04:52] <citrusflavord> i feel like I skipped quatum mechanics class and came back on test day
[04:52] <DaSkreech> citrusflavord: you shouldn't be compiling something you can install in seconds :)
[04:53] <DaSkreech> _2: I know it's the overlooked 4th engine
[04:53] <_2> that is installed
[04:53] <citrusflavord> i was trying to learn bout stuffs D:
[04:53] <NickPresta> citrusflavord, there are other things you can compile which aren't in the repos :)
[04:54] <_2> that's a good way to learn actually.      the try it and reformat methood has taught many an invaluable lesson.
[04:55] <andycr> I remember compiling glib back when I ran gentoo
[04:55] <andycr> I also remember having to recompile about 200 other packages because of it
[04:55] <andycr> :/
[04:55] <citrusflavord> NickPresta: yea I had a friend show me also that new verison will have to be compiled ( then he did it for me and I dont know how)
[04:55] <andycr> more or less all of gnome
[04:55] <_2> if you don't understant that saying    just try this and you will have hands on experance,   sudo rm -r /var
[04:55] <andycr> when i was running gnome
[04:55] <andycr> not sure how much of kde
[04:56] <_2> i hope no one here that ignorant.
[04:56] <Creationist> So I can no longer start Amarok... it just says "Amarok is taking a long time to load.  Perhaps something went wrong?"  No error messages...
[04:56] <citrusflavord> sudo rm -rf /var why not?
[04:56] <Creationist> It worked great a couple hours ago.
[04:56] <_2> -f not needed
[04:56] <DaSkreech> citrusflavord: Why not indeed? Hope you have an install CD nearby
[04:56] <citrusflavord> _2 i like F it make me feel strong
[04:57] <_2> it's default in debian rm
[04:57] <citrusflavord> the install CD is in the drive right now :D
[04:57] <DaSkreech> _2: what's rm -fi do ?
[04:57] <DaSkreech> Creationist: installed anything?
[04:58] <citrusflavord> anyone here have a job at all related to computer or even linux?
[04:58] <_2> -fi ?   force + interactive   one will surely negate the othere DaSkreech
[04:58] <Creationist> DaSkreech: Just a couple of stupid games... but they've been removed since
[04:58] <holycow> i do
[04:59] <_2> holycow i now pronounce you married
[04:59] <holycow> heh
[04:59] <citrusflavord> me and KDE have a very open (source) relationship
[05:00] <holycow> lol
[05:00] <holycow> who knew open source was kinky?
[05:01] <holycow> so
[05:01] <holycow> how about them yankees?
[05:01] <holycow> ....
[05:01] <hydrogen> they are going to lose
[05:01] <hydrogen> obviously
[05:01] <hydrogen> next question?
[05:01] <holycow> heh
[05:01] <DaSkreech> The Iraq war?
[05:02] <holycow> what is the meaning of 42?
[05:02] <citrusflavord> it rained today: guess where i live
[05:02] <holycow> citrusflavord: vancouver?
[05:02] <hydrogen> how about a novel idea
[05:02] <hydrogen> !topic
[05:02] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[05:02] <citrusflavord> ...holyshit
[05:02] <hydrogen> !offtopic
[05:02] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[05:02] <hydrogen> !oneofthose
[05:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oneofthose - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:02] <DaSkreech> !ohmy | citrusflavord
[05:02] <ubotu> citrusflavord: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:03] <citrusflavord> sorry
[05:03] <holycow> did i get it right?
[05:03] <citrusflavord> yes
[05:03] <_2> well your ip is mn    that might be a clue
[05:03] <holycow> lol!
[05:03] <citrusflavord> not bc, but still
[05:03] <DaSkreech> Monte Negro?
[05:03] <holycow> ah washington, meant bc
[05:03] <holycow> how weird :)
[05:04] <citrusflavord> anyone here played with copiz fusion?
[05:05] <_2> and let me guess your login name is jarrod ?
[05:05] <citrusflavord> _2 why?
[05:05] <DaSkreech> ooh oooh guess mine!
[05:05] <_2> DaSkreech heh
[05:09] <bazhang> greetings all! Does anyone know how to add mp3 ripping capability to Amarok? I already can play mp3s, but for some reason cannot encode CDs in that format.
[05:09] <lovre> hi all
[05:09] <bazhang> sorry to K3b
[05:10] <DaSkreech> bazhang: Umm lame might help
[05:10] <lovre> i have a question about SuperKamba.I installed it and chose some themes, clicked add to Desktop.... and nothing happens. Nothing. Why is this?
[05:10] <stdin> bazhang: to rip mp3s in k3b just install "libk3b2-mp3" (and restart k3b if you have it open)
[05:11] <bazhang> DaSkreech: thanks! but isn't that added with listening?
[05:11] <citrusflavord> Is it at all strang to have KDE freeup and not even have ctrl-altbackspace restart it...?
[05:11] <DaSkreech> stdin: he said amarok
[05:11] <bazhang> stdin: thanks!
[05:11] <lovre> superKaramba that is
[05:11] <citrusflavord> freeze up*
[05:11] <bazhang> DaSkreech: Imeant K3b
[05:11] <bazhang> sorry.
[05:11] <stdin> DaSkreech: "[04:09]   <bazhang> sorry to K3b"
[05:11] <DaSkreech> citrusflavord: can you move the mouse?
[05:11] <DaSkreech> Ahhh
[05:11] <_2> DaSkreech he corrected also.
[05:11] <DaSkreech> didn't get that
[05:11] <citrusflavord> DaSkreech: yes
[05:12] <DaSkreech> I thought he was saying that he was sorry for k3b
[05:12] <citrusflavord> DaSkreech: I could, I hard reset it tho.
[05:12] <DaSkreech> citrusflavord: Yeah it's an annoying keyboard bug. Just use the mouse to logout
[05:12] <_2> stdin are you always getting corrected when you are right ?
[05:12] <DaSkreech> The keyboard will magically come back
[05:12] <citrusflavord> DaSkreech: MAGIC?!!?1
[05:13] <stdin> _2: seems like it :p
[05:13] <DaSkreech> very much so
[05:13] <_2> stdin maybe you sould be stderr  ?
[05:13] <DaSkreech> ha ha
[05:13] <citrusflavord> _2 you run irc as root?
[05:13] <stdin> nah, std_you're_wrong_and_i'm_right
[05:13] <_2> :)
[05:14] <_2> citrusflavord nope.
[05:14] <_2> not unless root's uid has changed to 11  :)
[05:14] <citrusflavord> _2 your whois says root...
[05:15] <_2> i know,  i told it to
[05:15] <stdin> that can be faked, sometimes he's UN-root :)
[05:15] <_2> also not_root
[05:15] <stdin> and really_root_but_#debian_won't_let_me_in
[05:15] <_2> lol
[05:16] <DaSkreech> Yeah that bit me last week
[05:16] <christian_> some body knows
[05:16] <christian_> program
[05:16] <christian_> to download music
[05:16] <stdin> !enter
[05:16] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:16] <christian_> p2p program or something?
[05:16] <DaSkreech> like an idiot i started irc as root and couldn't get into #debian and couldn't figure it out
[05:16] <stdin> !p2p | don't use for illegal activities
[05:16] <ubotu> don't use for illegal activities: Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[05:16] <DaSkreech> !p2p
[05:16] <DaSkreech> damn
[05:17] <citrusflavord> how much lurk is required to learn large amounts here?
[05:17] <ardchoille> stdin: Several of us gave that !enter to christian_ the past two days be he doesn't listen
[05:17] <christian_> :/
[05:17] <citrusflavord> christian wwjd
[05:17] <citrusflavord> think about it...
[05:17] <stdin> well, he'll start listening now or will see what chanserv.py can do ;)
[05:17] <christian_> wwjd ?
[05:17] <ardchoille> stdin: hehe
[05:17] <FearMoth> hi, does kubuntu 7.10 install compiz fusion and set it up automatically?
[05:18] <_2> citrusflavord you could lurk here for ever and not teach us one stinking thing....  :)
[05:18] <citrusflavord> what would jesus do.... c'mon meow
[05:18] <DaSkreech> citrusflavord: depends on how much you listen and interject with your own questions
[05:18] <citrusflavord> _2 not to teach, no learn
[05:19] <DaSkreech> citrusflavord: and large is largely relative :)
[05:19] <stdin> FearMoth: ask in #ubuntu+!
[05:19] <citrusflavord> DaSkreech: are u calling my mom fat?
[05:19] <stdin> !u
[05:19] <ubotu> Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[05:19] <Jucato> FearMoth: in Kubuntu? no
[05:20] <_2> citrusflavord serously,  though.    you can pickup some things pretty quick in here.   like how to be a pita as they say.    like me.   or how to call the bot.   but if you really want to learn ask about things that interest you.
[05:20] <citrusflavord> c'mon meow ur realy growking my tubes
[05:20] <Jucato> stdin: yu ar funy :)
[05:20] <stdin> Jucato: maybe next year ey?
[05:20] <DaSkreech> citrusflavord: follow the links that ubotu spits out if it relates to you or not
[05:20] <stdin> Jucato: u r 2 :)
[05:20] <Jucato> stdin: when/if compiz decides to improve their KDE integration
[05:20] <DaSkreech> becuz ne1 knos y
[05:21] <DaSkreech> stdin: Why?
[05:21] <vixyfox> Hey everyone, I was looking over the KUbuntu info, but I'm a bit concerned. I uninstalled Ubuntu, because it didn't support certain hardware of mine... is KUbuntu the same way? Or might it support things Ubuntu doesn't?
[05:21] <DaSkreech> Next year makes no sense
[05:21] <DaSkreech> vixyfox: Roughly the same
[05:21] <Jucato> I think he meant kwin composite in KDE4
[05:21] <DaSkreech> vixyfox: What hardware?
[05:21] <stdin> DaSkreech: next year as in, maybe 8.04 or 8.10
[05:21] <citrusflavord> !lynx
[05:21] <ubotu> Browsers available for Linux: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), Opera (Qt, proprietary)  -  HTTP servers: apache2
[05:22] <vixyfox> DaSkreech: Mainly my sound card. I have a Soundblaster X-FI Xtreme Adio card. Ubuntu didn't like it at all
[05:22] <stdin> or 8.06 if it's the same as dapper
[05:22] <DaSkreech> stdin: 8.04 makes no sense cause we are almost assured of shipping KDe4 in 8.10 which has native compositing support
[05:22] <DaSkreech> >-<
[05:22] <DaSkreech> vixyfox: That's really really a Creative issue
[05:22] <stdin> DaSkreech: yeah, but you can have more than one compositing manager. (and kwin composite does rocK)
[05:22] <DaSkreech> And a very sore point for linux audiophiles
[05:23] <vixyfox> DaSkreech: So really... I'm screwed with it aren't I?
[05:23] <DaSkreech> !info libaqbanking16
[05:23] <ubotu> libaqbanking16: library for online banking applications. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.3-3 (feisty), package size 240 kB, installed size 876 kB
[05:23] <DaSkreech> hmm
[05:23] <DaSkreech> !info libgwenhywfar38
[05:23] <ubotu> libgwenhywfar38: OS abstraction layer. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4.0-1 (feisty), package size 453 kB, installed size 1372 kB
[05:24] <_2> vixyfox i heared that there was a 64 bit driver out for testing...   haven't verified that report tho
[05:24] <citrusflavord> amarok, for me is the greatest app, and the reason I want to learn about KDE
[05:25] <vixyfox> _2: I read about that, heard that it's something they had worked on a long time ago but the problem is that it's poorly coded and really doesn't work
[05:25] <_2> k then you are already ahead of me.  i'll stop.
[05:26] <citrusflavord> I need a table top ubot referance guide to keep up with you guys
[05:27] <_2> !bot
[05:27] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:27] <vixyfox> _2: Thanks though
[05:27] <_2> np
[05:29] <_2> citrusflavord !i. /me is quite easy to keep up with.
[05:29] <citrusflavord> _2 im pretty slow
[05:29] <_2> i understand "almost" every thing i say.
[05:30] <citrusflavord> _2 how long have you been usig linx?
[05:30] <citrusflavord> linux*
[05:30] <_2> oh  i don't really know.    maybe 8 years now.
[05:30] <citrusflavord> just for the lulz then ?
[05:31] <_2> ?
[05:31] <bazhang> thanks all! couldn't get K3b to rip to mp3, so just went with OGG. very fast!
[05:31] <citrusflavord> ... not your career i assume
[05:31] <_2> citrusflavord not exactly
[05:32] <citrusflavord> i meant to say " is it your hobby"
[05:32] <_2> not exactly
[05:32] <citrusflavord> do you have a job?
[05:32] <christian_> how can install
[05:32] <christian_> Ubuntu 6.10 with XGL & Kiba-Dock
[05:32] <christian_> ?
[05:32] <_2> yeah.  and i really can't go into a lot of detail on that point.     i work for the people
[05:32] <citrusflavord> wwjd
[05:33] <citrusflavord> emalual goldstein?
[05:33] <holycow> christian_: well, you install ubuntu, then you install beryl, then you install kiba-dock
[05:33] <holycow> !beryl
[05:33] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:33] <citrusflavord> brb have to look up the spelling
[05:34] <citrusflavord> _2 emanuel goldstein?
[05:34] <_2> goldstein ?    no.
[05:35] <christian_> holycow:
[05:35] <christian_> yes iam running
[05:35] <christian_> ubuntu
[05:35] <christian_> but i want
[05:35] <citrusflavord> _2 your vagueness leads me on a magicall mind adventure that make me think you are some sort of secert spy ( maybe for mother russia)
[05:35] <christian_> xgl and kiba dock
[05:35] <christian_> how can install
[05:35] <christian_> ?
[05:36] <citrusflavord> !wwjd
[05:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wwjd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:36] <holycow> i told you
[05:36] <holycow> install beryl
[05:36] <holycow> go into #ubuntu-effects and look at the topic info is there
[05:36] <holycow> or whatever beryl is called now
[05:36] <holycow> then install kiba-dock
[05:36] <_2> citrusflavord i guess one never knows these days.   this is IRC where men are men, and women are men,  and children are FBI agents...
[05:37] <holycow> it should all be in the repos
[05:37] <_2> no offence children
[05:37] <holycow> christian_: what i am getting at is you won't haveto compile anything, you just need to find the reopos that contain the packages
[05:37] <holycow> and just install them
[05:37] <citrusflavord> whats the age limit for children?
[05:38] <christian_> okay
[05:38] <christian_> tahnk u
[05:38] <_2> idk.  ask him   heh.
[05:38] <_2> -:- children [n=children@195.161.25.17]  has joined #kubuntu
[05:39] <_2> in case you missed that.  :)
[05:39] <ardchoille> _2: I have turned those off because I *want* to miss them. No need for you pasting them back.
[05:39] <holycow> christian_: yeah it doesn't sound helpfull but that actually is how you go about finding how to install that stuff :)
[05:41] <citrusflavord> _2 do you have a website?
[05:41] <_2> citrusflavord no.
[05:42] <_2> ardchoille i'll remember to not post them to you   k
[05:46] <DaSkreech> ubuntu+1
[05:46] <citrusflavord> +2 time infinity
[05:46] <citrusflavord> times*
[05:47] <_2> _2 infinity
[05:47] <citrusflavord> divided by zero
[05:47] <_2> !
[05:47] <DaSkreech> And beyond!
[05:47] <Dr_willis> +good ++good
[05:48] <citrusflavord> konversation | firefox > crazy.txt
[05:48] <citrusflavord> my bash skills are limited to my imagenation
[05:48] <DaSkreech> !commands | citrusflavord
[05:48] <ubotu> citrusflavord: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[05:49] <citrusflavord> does the pipeline symbol direct it to a user - cuz thats cute as kittens
[05:49] <_2> yep
[05:50] <_2> !help > citrusflavord
[05:50] <dsmith_> hi
[05:50] <dsmith_> I have a brand new Panasonic cf-52 thats giving me problems, xorg is not starting
[05:50] <citrusflavord> wow that opens a tab on the top view
[05:50] <DaSkreech> vixyfox: How are you?
[05:50] <dsmith_> vesa, fglrx drivers don;t seem to work
[05:50] <dsmith_> treied intel as well just sets and hangs
[05:50] <holycow> yeah, ati is terrible
[05:51] <dsmith_> machine has a integrated intel chip
[05:51] <holycow> oh why are you installing ati accelerated drivers on intel chipset?
[05:51] <holycow> there is i810 of course you can try but ther eis also a new intel driver for intel chipsets
[05:51] <citrusflavord> the freewheelin' bob dylan is probally his best album -- just throwing that out there
[05:52] <holycow> let me see if i can find the name of the package for you
[05:52] <ardchoille> !ot | citrusflavord
[05:52] <ubotu> citrusflavord: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[05:52] <holycow> xserver-xorg-video-intel
[05:52] <dsmith_> hmmmm fglrs are ati? didn't realize thaty
[05:52] <dsmith_> ooops
[05:52] <dsmith_> holycow tried that already
[05:52] <holycow> that is the new intel driver that replaces i810 for all newer intel chipsets
[05:52] <dsmith_> let me try this again
[05:52] <ivan_> has anyone installed msttcorefonts?
[05:53] <dsmith_> i have why
[05:53] <holycow> no, they are horrible ugly fonts
[05:53] <dsmith_> lol
[05:53] <holycow> no one should ever install that EVER
[05:53] <holycow> :)
[05:53] <ivan_> lol, there's a lot of fonts in that package
[05:53] <dsmith_> i have vista fonts on my machine
[05:53] <dsmith_> :P
[05:53] <ivan_> all of them can't be bad
[05:53] <holycow> dsmith_: when you installed you got at least vesa support right? vesa broke after you were mucking about?
[05:53] <dsmith_> yea
[05:53] <dsmith_> vesa is default
[05:54] <holycow> dsmith_: bless you, i presume you will remove them and NEVER again do something so silly
[05:54] <dsmith_> but x woould not start
[05:54] <dsmith_> lmfao
[05:54] <dsmith_> I like silly fonts :P
[05:54] <ivan_> can anyone help me install msttcorefonts?
[05:54] <holycow> actually i'm joking, but linux actually has more beautiful fonts natively
[05:54] <dsmith_> actually I was just trying them out and havenot botherd to remove them
[05:54] <dsmith_> :P
[05:55] <holycow> take some time to get your aclimatized to them, windows will look horrible in compariosn
[05:55] <dsmith_> sorry for my transgressions
[05:55] <holycow> !msttcorefonts
[05:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about msttcorefonts - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:55] <citrusflavord> !kernal
[05:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kernal - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:55] <DaSkreech> !info ioctl
[05:55] <holycow> ivan_: just google it
[05:55] <ubotu> Package ioctl does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[05:55] <dsmith_> !fonts
[05:55] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[05:55] <holycow> ah there you go
[05:55] <ivan_> I did, I got a .deb with all the fonts
[05:55] <ivan_> but I'm not sure how to install it now
[05:55] <citrusflavord> !kernel
[05:55] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[05:55] <holycow> so double clikc and install
[05:56] <holycow> not that hard :)
[05:56] <ivan_> nothing happens when I double click
[05:56] <dsmith_> holycow: x just gives me a blank screen
[05:56] <dsmith_> :(
[05:56] <ivan_> do I need gdebi?
[05:56] <holycow> ivan_: yep
[05:56] <ivan_> how can I get that?
[05:56] <holycow> open up a terminal and do sudo apt-get install gdebi
[05:56] <ivan_> ok, that's what I thought
[05:56] <DaSkreech> ivan_: Right click you will see an install package entry
[05:56] <holycow> you can install that .deb via terminal but you should have gdebi anyway
[05:57] <ivan_> I tried that once, package not found
[05:57] <dsmith_> sudo fix laptop now
[05:57] <_2> isn't that  sudo loptop --fix now
[05:57] <holycow> dsmith_: so a plain install wont give you x?
[05:57] <holycow> even with vesa drivers?
[05:57] <citrusflavord> loptop?
[05:57] <charlie5> hi all ... i've installed a new nvidia geforce card and am having problems getting the nvidia and glx modules working ... i've tried both glx and glx-new ... also tried the latest drivers from nvidia, but with not success
[05:57] <citrusflavord> sounds fun
[05:57] <stdin> gdebi is in gutsy, before gutsy you just right-click  > Kubuntu Installer > Install
[05:58] <_2> citrusflavord was a joke.
[05:58] <dsmith_> no, I can see X trying to start but fail many times
[05:58] <holycow> stdin: gdebi is in dapper too
[05:58] <DaSkreech> ivan_: right click on the deb doesn't give a install package option?
[05:58] <citrusflavord> _2 i ruin everything D:
[05:58] <holycow> it may not be installed by default in kubuntu but they should have that tho
[05:58] <stdin> holycow: yeah, but the Qt/KDE fronted is installed by default in gutsy, but not in previous versions
[05:58] <holycow> ohhh right forgot *doh!*
[05:59] <stdin> gdebi-kde
[05:59] <holycow> you are right *nod*
[05:59] <_2> charlie5 that is a question
[05:59] <holycow> i'm so de agnostic at this point i freely mix and match apps :)
[05:59] <holycow> not always good advice tho
[06:00] <dsmith_> x fails completely to a blank screen
[06:00] <holycow> dsmith_: gutsy or feisty?
[06:00] <dsmith_> fiesty
[06:00] <citrusflavord> !xorg | citrusflavord
[06:00] <holycow> well its clearly a driver issue ... there really isn't anythin else thats obvious tha tyou can try, you tried eveyrhing including the wrong drivers
[06:00] <_2> dsmith_ 32/64 bit ?
[06:01] <dsmith_> 32
[06:01] <DaSkreech> !info evms
[06:01] <holycow> the road from here is digging into the logs and tracking down the error and maybe posting to malone a bug?
[06:01] <ubotu> evms: Enterprise Volume Management System (core). In component main, is optional. Version 2.5.5-18ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 85 kB, installed size 320 kB
[06:01] <holycow> or looking up if someone with the same laptop/chipset has the same issue?
[06:02] <_2> !msg | citrusflavord you can use PM...
[06:02] <ubotu> citrusflavord you can use PM...: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[06:02] <_2> !msgthebot | citrusflavord you can use PM...
[06:02] <ubotu> citrusflavord you can use PM...: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[06:03] <citrusflavord> _2 would you describ xorg as software? my understanding is that, from what ubot said, its sortof a bus of desktop/visuals.
[06:04] <holycow> no
[06:04] <holycow> xorg is software
[06:04] <holycow> its a server/client architecture
[06:04] <holycow> it's natively network aware
[06:04] <citrusflavord> _2 who did I pm?...ubot?
[06:04] <_2> xorg is the "software" the produces the Xwindow   which the desktop enviornments then use to display their "windows" in.
[06:04] <dsmith_> if x fails can't I just drop into the cmd line?
[06:05] <holycow> yes of course
[06:05] <dsmith_> for some reason it stays at a blank screen
[06:05] <holycow> ctrl/alt/f1
[06:05] <dsmith_> alt-f2
[06:05] <dsmith_> that wont work either
[06:05] <citrusflavord> also its my understanding the ctrl-alt-backspace is a unsafe way to shutdown xorg, that true?
[06:06] <holycow> alt-f3?
[06:06] <holycow> citrusflavord: no
[06:06] <dsmith_> perhaps I should reinstall againothing
[06:06] <holycow> dsmith_: i think so
[06:06] <DaSkreech> holycow: It isn't?
[06:06] <holycow> i don't think your x is crashing
[06:06] <holycow> i think your kernel is oopsing on a driver during boot
[06:06] <stdin> citrusflavord: it's not "unsafe" but it is dirty
[06:06] <charlie5> _2: i guess i was wondering if anyone else has had similar experience
[06:06] <DaSkreech> citrusflavord: unsafe as in your docuemtns sessions etc will not be saved
[06:06] <dsmith_> holycow: ok
[06:06] <holycow> if you cant drop to a console its a much more serious issue, reinstall yes
[06:07] <holycow> DaSkreech: its not unsafe ... for various levels of safe.  One presumes they are saving on a regular basis but technically this isn't windows
[06:07] <citrusflavord> stdin: could it ever prevent some programs from running at intended on the next startup?
[06:07] <_2> dsmith_ what you have described is a gub.  it's also a known issue with some hardware.   the "fbcon" module that facilitates "usplash" doesn't relenquish the display as it should.    if you disable "fbcon"  you can probably get xorg working and the console will also be viewable.
[06:07] <holycow> you don't have your setting screwed up by doing something like that
[06:07] <holycow> only on windows you bork a system doing that
[06:07] <DaSkreech> citrusflavord: No
[06:07] <_2> is a gub/is a bug     i'm lysdexic it seems.
[06:07] <DaSkreech> citrusflavord: it's dirty as mentioned but not unsafe
[06:08] <dsmith_> _2: I cannot get to the cmd line
[06:08] <gib> Can someone point me to a cheap pci wifi card with good native wpa2 support (not via a wrapper over the windows driver).
[06:08] <stdin> citrusflavord: no, it just leaves old links/sockets around
[06:08] <holycow> _2: interesting, first time i've heard of that
[06:08] <citrusflavord> DaSkreech: I don't understand "dirty" what do you mean by that. messy logs?
[06:08] <DaSkreech> ok reboot again
[06:08] <dsmith_> _2: what you described seems to be it
[06:08] <DaSkreech> citrusflavord: it gives no warning to anything but itself that it is going down
[06:09] <dsmith_> 1/3 of the boot splash then it hangs kinda after starting a bunch of services
[06:09] <DaSkreech> citrusflavord: X is safe but your other programs have no way of doing a safe shutdown and check
[06:09] <DaSkreech>  so documents don't get saved. Open dialog boxes can't prompt to see if this is what you really want
[06:09] <_2> yeah it's it.     dsmith_  i'm not sure the "grub" way to get around it.    i think it's    vga=0x0f05 nosplash      but i'm not sure.
[06:10] <citrusflavord> DaSkreech: so current data in a program like firefox could be confused?
[06:10] <gib> Can someone point me to a cheap pci wifi card with good native wpa2 support (not via a wrapper over the windows driver).
[06:10] <holycow> _2: lol dude superb tech supporting there :)
[06:10] <DaSkreech> citrusflavord: wouldn't have time to
[06:10] <dsmith_> I've had that on two toughbooks, cf-52 and cf-51 series
[06:10] <gib> Oops, sorry, repeated by accident.  :)
[06:11] <_2> holycow feel free to superceed me  :)
[06:11] <_2> gib there is a "supported" hardware page.
[06:11] <_2> !hardware
[06:11] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[06:13] <_2> dsmith_ you can check the bug reports on that issue   and add to it your own info.
[06:13] <_2> !bug
[06:13] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[06:13] <dsmith_> once I figure out the entire issue I will send the information to someone to upload it
[06:13] <dsmith_> toughbooks are a popular laptop
[06:13] <holycow> or just wait and in the next upgrade the issue dissapears
[06:13] <holycow> lol
[06:14] <dsmith_> lol
[06:14] <holycow> thats typically what happens on debian based distros
[06:14] <citrusflavord> any software out that activly supports the iphone? as a alternative to itunes?
[06:14] <_2> holycow we would only hope.
[06:14] <holycow> but yes, a good well written detailed bug report will always help
[06:14] <holycow> you should do that
[06:14] <holycow> if you can hire someone to fix it
[06:14] <holycow> i do that sometimes
[06:14] <dsmith_> haha hire
[06:15] <dsmith_> I renamed my wirelss SSID kubuntu today
[06:15] <dsmith_> lol
[06:15] <_2> even poor code monkies need work.
[06:15] <dsmith_> guess what the passwod is...
[06:15] <_2> save the code monkeys
[06:16] <holycow> hiring codemonkeys is good
[06:16] <holycow> you usually get some great results and it fixes a problem sooner than later
[06:16] <dsmith_> ...password is kubuntu1
[06:16] <dsmith_> too easy huh
[06:17] <_2> password is password
[06:17] <_2> name is name
[06:17] <holycow> dsmith_: excellent
[06:17] <_2> to generic maybe
[06:17] <holycow> i hope your ssh is on
[06:17] <tzanger> does kubuntu not use udev?  I see udev mounted, but I don't see /sbin/hotplug
[06:17] <holycow> would you like to install something for you?
[06:17] <holycow> how about i make / dissapear?
[06:17] <caesar_> how do I make kubuntu mount my drives automatically on startup?
[06:18] <dsmith_> edit fstab
[06:18] <caesar_> how?
[06:18] <_2> tzanger it uses udev by default.
[06:18] <citrusflavord> !fstab
[06:18] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[06:18] <tzanger> _2: my understanding is that the kernel calls /sbin/hotplug whenever devices are added/removed, but I do not see /sbin/hotplug in my system
[06:18] <_2> holycow errr ummm   cat /dev/zero > /dev/hda   and hit the power button ???
[06:19] <stdin> tzanger: no, hal/udev/dbus all take care of that
[06:19] <tzanger> hmm do you know where I might find information on that now?  all the udev stuff google is returning talks about /sbin/hotplug
[06:20] <holycow> _2 lol :)
[06:20] <_2> tzanger sounds like the fedora way to me.
[06:21] <_2> holycow it does work ya know  :)
[06:22] <stdin> tzanger: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev.html is probably the best place
[06:22] <ivan_> I have just installed msttfonts, how can I go about choosing the fonts now? they don't seem to show up in the font lists when I got to change appearance
[06:22] <tzanger> that's what I just read
[06:22] <tzanger> or at least the OLS paper referenced there
[06:22] <stdin> tzanger: some info there is out dated
[06:22] <holycow> _2 never occured to me but yeah that looks like something to try :)
[06:23] <tzanger> all the info there seems outdated :-)
[06:23] <dsmith_> well in talking to our CFO today he agrees we wil not transition to vista
[06:23] <_2> holycow if you ever need to blank an hd  that's a good way.
[06:23] <stdin> tzanger: the people in #ubuntu-kernel know more about it than I do, ask there
[06:23] <Lynoure> Is there something like the command  'top' but for io?
[06:23] <tzanger> stdin: okay, thanks
[06:23] <dsmith_> I recommended windows server for like 8 ppl
[06:23] <ivan_> I regenerated the font cache by doing fc-cache -fv
[06:24] <_2> Lynoure execelant Q   now if anyone can answer it for us...
[06:24] <holycow> _2 i was just thinking that actually
[06:25] <_2> holycow it can be slow on large drives.
[06:25] <dsmith_> ubuntu, ..... gnomes.... hmmmphh
[06:25] <_2> Jucato ?  <Lynoure> Is there something like the command  'top' but for io?
[06:25] <holycow> _2 well there is no other way to really zero one out but write out every single byte
[06:25] <_2> stdin ?
[06:26] <_2> holycow indeed
[06:26] <holycow> _2 we don't really zero out drives at work any more, we just get them destroyed while visually inspecting the process
[06:26] <caesar_> what device are jump drives, typically?
[06:26] <caesar_>  /dev/sd0?
[06:27] <_2> probably sd[a-z] 
[06:27] <stdin> _2: I have no idea :)
[06:27] <_2> i'm assuming they show up on the scsi bus
[06:27] <_2> stdin yeah Lynoure asked the best question of the day.
[06:28] <holycow> well
[06:28] <holycow> io of what?
[06:28] <caesar_> _2: what's that?
[06:28] <_2> all io i would assume
[06:28] <holycow> eth1 maybe?
[06:28] <holycow> thats a lot of io
[06:28] <_2> caesar_  <Lynoure> Is there something like the command  'top' but for io?
[06:28] <Lynoure> holycow: disk io would do :)
[06:28] <holycow> sure but you know disk io, ram io, cpu io, eth io, bluetooth io ... and on and on :)
[06:29] <_2> yes and if it was a command like "top for io" then we would assume it metered all io   no?
[06:29] <holycow> it is a good qeustion, but getting meaningfull measuerments would be key
[06:31] <holycow> you right it is a good question, i've never heard of that before :)
[06:33] <_2> that could monitor below the process level,   very useful in some applications.     now i'm wanting to find something that can do that.
[06:33] <Lynoure> holycow: the situation: lot of load, minimal cpu use. vmstat hint at high disk use, yet the culprit is hard to find
[06:33] <holycow> *nod* totally ... there must be, the question jsut never came up
[06:33] <holycow> actually
[06:34] <holycow> i have one spam blocking server i wouldn't mind profiling with something like that
[06:34] <fignew_> lol
[06:35] <fignew_> the load average takes IO into account
[06:35] <holycow> load average only counts the number of processes waiting in que
[06:35] <holycow> it doesn't take into account hd io
[06:35] <holycow> as an example
[06:36] <_2> !away | toretto
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[06:36] <fignew_> lol, the CPU is waiting for IO :P
[06:40] <_2> slow cpu
[06:41] <Lynoure> load average counts any waiting processes, no matter why they have to wait...
[06:43] <fignew_> ok?
[06:43] <bootsmorris> whats up guys
[06:43] <holycow> the sun the sky and the moon
[06:43] <holycow> or
[06:43] <_2> bootsmorris we're looking for an io meter
[06:43] <holycow> if your in australia
[06:43] <holycow> us
[06:43] <holycow> why do you ask?
[06:43] <Jucato> what's an io meter?
[06:43] <fignew_> what would they be waiting on besides IO?
[06:43] <holycow> -_-
[06:44] <Jucato> base 2, what's an io meter?
[06:44] <bootsmorris> what is an io meter
[06:44] <_2> Jucato something to meter io and report on it.
[06:44] <bootsmorris> what version of jubuntu are yall running.  i am running 7.10 beta
[06:44] <Lynoure> Jucato: like top, but for io :)
[06:44] <fignew_> Jucato: no worries, I already told them: top
[06:45] <_2> all io   and i'm not sure how one would measure it.
[06:45] <Lynoure> Jucato: my need is mostly for disk io, but multiple modes are a plus. Recommendations?
[06:45] <hydrogen> an iometer?
[06:45] <bootsmorris> superkaramba
[06:45] <_2> fignew_ you told us something that doesn't apply really
[06:45] <hydrogen> which is a greek meter
[06:46] <hydrogen> obviously
[06:46] <Jucato> hm... kinda difficult to measure I guess... specially with KDE using lots of kio processes
[06:46] <fignew_> like hell it doesn't :/
[06:47] <stdin> fignew_: really? can provide a screenshot of top measuring disk i/o per process then?
[06:47] <Jucato> Lynoure: I would probably tell you to look into ksysguard.. but I don't know how to interpret the other sensors
[06:47] <fignew_> stdin: sorry, I meant uptime
[06:47] <fignew_> the load average :)
[06:47] <stdin> again, per process?
[06:47] <bootsmorris> does anyone have any experience with kde 4
[06:48] <stdin> bootsmorris: any part in particular?
[06:48] <fignew_> they didn't ask for a specific process :/
[06:48] <_2> or even just per device
[06:48] <bootsmorris> install
[06:48] <stdin> bootsmorris: have you seen the topic?
[06:48] <_2> we did ask for io metering per device   yes
[06:48] <citrusflavord> DaSkreech: I kinda like this here irssi
[06:48] <fignew_> Also, xosview gives you people what your looking for
[06:48] <DaSkreech> citrusflavord: It's great
[06:48] <Lynoure> Jucato: this is actually on a server... should have asked on #ubuntu, I guess, but I'm not normally there
[06:49] <DaSkreech> you compiled it?
[06:49] <bootsmorris> no
[06:49] <Jucato> Lynoure: I think there's an #ubuntu-server too
[06:49] <bootsmorris> what is it
[06:49] <DaSkreech> Lynoure: We can answer here as well. As long as it's not DE
[06:49] <DaSkreech> Jucato: isn't that devel?
[06:49] <citrusflavord> DaSkreech: can you show me a trick with it?
[06:49] <_2> !info xosview
[06:49] <ubotu> xosview: X based system monitor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.8.2-9 (feisty), package size 84 kB, installed size 272 kB
[06:50] <DaSkreech> citrusflavord: You mean like Alt+Num to hop windows ?
[06:50] <Jucato> DaSkreech: not really sure
[06:50] <stdin> bootsmorris: type in /topic
[06:50] <fignew_> /topic
[06:50] <bootsmorris> ok
[06:51] <bootsmorris> well i dont know much about linux/kubuntu but i will try to help
[06:51] <citrusflavord> DaSkreech: I enjoy how simple it is, and running things in terminal makes me feel smarter :D
[06:51] <stdin> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php
[06:52] <DaSkreech> citrusflavord: after a while it will make you smarter
[06:52] <bootsmorris> i already did the kde beta 2 d/l it is downloading with adept right now
[06:52] <DaSkreech> Beta 3 :)
[06:52] <bootsmorris> whatever the new one is
[06:52] <Lynoure> 2_: ideally a cli thing. and seeing general usage level does not help much.
[06:53] <fignew_> Jeeze you guys are picky
[06:53] <stdin> beta 2, beta 3 isn't out yet
[06:53] <bootsmorris> ok beta 2
[06:53] <bootsmorris> is it much different than kde 3.5?
[06:54] <stdin> yes, it is
[06:54] <DaSkreech> very
[06:54] <holycow> everything is rewritten, right?
[06:54] <bootsmorris> what programs come with it by default
[06:54] <stdin> and completely unusable right now :)
[06:54] <DaSkreech> stdin: though I hear that qt5 won't break qt4 so that's nice
[06:54] <stdin> DaSkreech: wow, a compatible API, what a nice idea :p
[06:55] <Jucato> *if/when* there's a Qt 5 within the next decade or so :P
[06:55] <Jucato> anyway... !offtopic anyone? :)
[06:56] <bootsmorris> sorry
[06:56] <holycow> i've never been convinced compatable apis were a good idea
[06:56] <holycow> then you get the sheize likein the ms world
[06:56] <bootsmorris> so how long have yall been using kubuntu
[06:56] <stdin> if(user.offtopic()) toofftopic(user);
[06:56] <holycow> programmers just continue same ol bad ideas
[06:56] <intelikey> X: cannot stat /etc/X11/X (No such file or directory), aborting.
[06:57] <Jucato> stdin: use camel case please :)
[06:57] <intelikey> what package provides  /etc/X11/X  ?
[06:57] <holycow> xorg
[06:57] <stdin> Jucato: Ok I'Ll UsE tHe CaMeL cAsE
[06:57] <Jucato> intelikey: xserver-xorg-core
[06:57] <intelikey> Jucato i have that...
[06:57] <Jucato> stdin: only works for identifiers :P
[06:58] <Jucato> weird then
[06:58] <intelikey> holycow that's only a meta package
[06:58] <holycow> true that
[06:58] <intelikey> so it doesn't provide it.
[06:58] <fignew_> bootsmorris: since 5.10 here
[06:59] <intelikey> bootsmorris 5.4
[07:00] <intelikey> -root: startx: command not found
[07:00] <intelikey> what provides that ?
[07:00] <intelikey> i'm beginning to think it's a conspericy
[07:00] <fignew_> xinit
[07:01] <fignew_> ^^^ intelikey
[07:02] <intelikey> i saw it.
[07:03] <fignew> making sure you knew who it was for... I have a tendency to randomly say package names...
[07:03] <intelikey> heh.  ok.
[07:03] <fignew> emacs
[07:04] <intelikey> linking /usr/bin with /usr/bin/X11  wasn't a good idea.   i have a fork bomb going off now.
[07:04] <intelikey> X: warning; process set to priority -1 instead of requested priority 0
[07:04] <intelikey> X: warning; process set to priority -1 instead of requested priority 0
[07:04] <intelikey> X: warning; process set to priority -1 instead of requested priority 0
[07:04] <intelikey> X: warning; process set to priority -1 instead of requested priority 0
[07:04] <intelikey> X: warning; process set to priority -1 instead of requested priority 0
[07:04] <intelikey> X: warning; process set to priority -1 instead of requested priority 0
[07:04] <intelikey> X: warning; process set to priority -1 instead of requested priority 0
[07:05] <intelikey> X: warning; process set to priority -1 instead of requested priority 0
[07:05] <fignew> O.o
[07:05] <Jucato> tsk...
[07:05] <fignew> I'd rather have a fork bomb than a spoon grenade
[07:07] <intelikey> sorry guys,  when i bomb things i do it up right....
[07:07] <Jucato> don't do it again please? :)
[07:07] <fignew> do what?
[07:08] <fignew> link /usr/bin with /usr/bin/X11?
[07:08] <intelikey> Jucato i didn't paste anything.  i clicked the mouse and the world ended.
[07:08] <intelikey> but i suspect it dunped to the bx window.
[07:08] <intelikey> fignew yeah.
[07:09] <Jucato> yeah...
[07:09] <intelikey> how many lines ?
[07:09] <stdin> 8
[07:09] <intelikey> eek
[07:09] <intelikey> i saw about three thousand.
[07:09] <fignew> that's always fun
[07:10] <Jucato> kool :)
[07:13] <_2> so.    now what does "/etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc: line 2: exec: /usr/bin/X11/X: cannot execute: No such file or directory"  this?
[07:14] <_2> what provides   /usr/bin/X11/X   ?
[07:15] <stdin> x11-common
[07:16] <_2> stdin i guess not.   x11-common is already the newest version.
[07:16] <_2> i thought that   /usr/bin/X11   was a symlink on ubuntu systems ?
[07:16] <stdin> well, dpkg -S has "x11-common: /usr/bin/X!
[07:16] <_2> yes   but not   /usr/bin/X11/X
[07:17] <stdin> it is, /usr/bin/X11 > /usr/bin
[07:17] <_2> but making that links caused the fork bomb that brought down intelikey
[07:18] <Jucato> -rwsr-sr-x 1 root root 7472 2007-09-19 09:00 /usr/bin/X11/X
[07:18] <stdin> don't know why "lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 1 2007-04-24 14:39 /usr/bin/X11 -> ."
[07:18] <_2> hmmm   ok.   X  works   but startx  fork bombs
[07:18] <saroset> !printer
[07:18] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[07:19] <Jucato> _2: how about trying to reinstall xserver-xorg-core? I can recall someone having an almost similar problem before
[07:20] <_2> i think i found it.   where does /etc/X11/X point /
[07:20] <_2> ?
[07:20] <Jucato>  /usr/bin/Xorg
[07:20] <_2> mine is /usr/bin/X  but that's not right is it ?
[07:20] <_2> ah ha.
 _2: how about trying to reinstall xserver-xorg-core? I can recall someone having an almost similar problem before
[07:21] <_2> ok that didn't fork bomb that time.
[07:21] <_2> Jucato i got it.   yes thanks.
[07:21] <DaSkreech>  /usr/bin/X != /usr/bin/Xorg
[07:21] <_2> DaSkreech correct.
[07:21] <stdin> yes, but /etc/X11/X is
[07:22] <_2> yeah got it.   X and startx working.   now i need something to run inside of X   like  rxvt maybe.
[07:23] <stdin> or xterm
[07:23] <Jucato> xterm!!!
[07:23] <Jucato> twm!!
[07:23] <_2> twm's menu is broken in dapper
[07:23] <DaSkreech> xclock
[07:23] <DaSkreech> or klokk!
[07:23] <_2> and i dont want to rewrite it again.
[07:24] <_2> rxvt will be just fine.
[07:28] <dmagno> Can anyone help a tired user to solve the problema "Screens found, but none usable" when installing nvidia driver in Feisty?
[07:28] <_2> ok one more   what am i missing here    could not open default font 'fixed'
[07:30] <_2> there is no 'fixed' in the package listings.
[07:30] <dmagno> I would really apreciate some kind o help :-)
[07:32] <_2> dmagno sounds like the monitor is setup out of the card/drivers range.   probably caused by either wrong monitor section or driver not functioning properly.     educated guess at best.
[07:33] <dmagno> oh, thank you for you guess :-)
[07:33] <dmagno> how could I fix the setup o card/drivers range, which file/session should I fix?
[07:33] <_2> possable solutions are "reinstall other nvidia drivers"  'reconfigure the xserver' or revert to a working (nv) driver
[07:34] <_2> can reconfigure with    sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    and  if all else fails   ask in irc.freenode.net #kubuntu
[07:34] <_2> oh that's here....
[07:35] <dmagno> nowdays I'm using nv drivers. I've tried a lot of diferent nvidia drivers thru ubuntu repositories or nvidia oficial drivers
[07:35] <dmagno> how reconfigure the xserver would help to fix that problem?
[07:36] <_2> that's where you change the monitor section   or the driver
[07:36] <_2> that problem is in the xserver
[07:36] <ehc> are there any pdfeditors for kubuntu?
[07:36] <_2> or didn't you know that ?
[07:37] <dmagno> yeah I know that, but never touched that config before
[07:38] <dmagno> So I'll try to reconfiure xserver
[07:38] <dmagno> _2 I'll be back
[07:38] <dmagno> thanx for you help!
[07:40] <_2> i bet you have.   you changed drivers....
[07:40] <_2> ah gone.
[07:40] <_2> ehc apt-cache search pdf
[07:41] <_2> if you see something you want to investigate,  apt-cache show "that"
[07:41] <_2> or use adept.
[07:42] <ehc> _2, okay thanks
[07:51] <fuhrerss>   ?
[08:03] <ronie> a
[08:03] <a> a
[08:07] <sstchur> what's the secret to shareing a directory so that it can be seen from a windows box?  I've specified share on a folder, but I'm not able to access it from other computers (I has samba installed)
[08:33] <mzolisi> good morning
[08:34] <mzolisi> hi jessen
[08:41] <yotta> how can i remove saved passwords in konqueror on kubuntu 6.10?
[08:43] <mzolisi> well 'saved paswords' for the system or an application
[08:43] <mzolisi> oh i se
[08:44] <mzolisi> do you a set of users
[08:44] <mzolisi> or just for yourself
[08:45] <yotta> saved passwords for konqueror
[08:45] <yotta> i accidently hin never ask to remember passwords for this site, and i wanna un-do that.
[08:46] <mzolisi> i see, well not sure hey
[08:46] <mzolisi> you could go to www.kubuntuforums.net
[08:46] <mzolisi> and search there
[08:46] <Jucato> yotta: there's a wallet icon in your system tray
[08:46] <yotta> no, there is not.
[08:46] <Jucato> hm...
[08:47] <yotta> kwallet is not installed
[08:47] <Jucato> can you run "kwalletmanager"?
[08:47] <yotta> yeah
[08:47] <Jucato> does the wallet appear now?
[08:48] <yotta> yeah
[08:48] <yotta> it doesn't have the page i told konq to not save, though.
[08:48] <Jucato> hm....
[08:48] <Jucato> mine is missing right now so I couldn't help you
[08:50] <yotta> also, firefox broke on me.
[08:52] <mzolisi> broke how?
[08:53] <yotta> won't start, and i tried deleting my profile and starting it in safe mode
[08:53] <Jucato> yotta: try starting it from Konsole, with "firefox"
[08:54] <yotta> yeah, i did
[08:54] <yotta> doesn't start
[08:54] <Jucato> does it say anything?
[08:55] <mzolisi> uninstall , then install again -best bet
[08:55] <mzolisi> OR locate  a 'firefoxrc' file
[08:55] <yotta> randomly works again
[08:55] <apparle> hello i am new to linux help with sound card
[08:55] <mzolisi> then remove the '*rc' file
[08:56] <mzolisi> and restart the app
[08:56] <oem> grrrr
[08:56] <emilsedgh> !shound | apparle
[08:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shound - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:56] <mzolisi> down boy
[08:56] <Jucato> !sound
[08:56] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[08:57] <jMerliNz> I am severely pissed off at creative right now.
[08:57] <mzolisi> ?
[08:57] <jMerliNz> I don't think I'll ever be buying another creative product.
[08:57] <mzolisi> Dont buy Logitech either
[08:57] <jMerliNz> Creative releases proprietary closed-source drivers for their x-fi product line for linux
[08:57] <jMerliNz> but ONLY in the 64 bit version.
[08:57] <apparle> i have removed alsa as it is not working and I have put OSS
[08:57] <jMerliNz> Who the fuck with an x-fi runs 64bit linux?
[08:57] <apparle> It works but no mic
[08:58] <jMerliNz> What new-age game exists that is designed for 64bit?
[08:58] <stdin> jMerliNz: watch the language
[08:58] <holycow> speaking of which ...
[08:58] <mzolisi> work with what you have
[08:58] <holycow> are there any sound cards (especially pro level) that have linux support?
[08:58] <holycow> and why not buy logitech? they don't play nice with us either?
[08:59] <jMerliNz> for a card that costs over $100, it better damn well have drivers for whatever system that supports new-age gaming that i choose
[09:00] <jMerliNz> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_100.14.19.html <--
[09:01] <jMerliNz> 8 series graphics card drivers for 32bit linux, surely those are about 50 times more complex than audio drivers
[09:01] <jMerliNz> CL is just a bunch of lazy retards, hence why i'll never buy another of their products.
[09:01] <apparle> hey anybody intrested in helping me
[09:01] <holycow> just state the problem
[09:01] <holycow> if anyone knows they will
[09:02] <holycow> otherwise hang around for a bit
[09:03] <jMerliNz> anyway, is there an easy way to make kubuntu's start menu open when i hit the windows key on my keyboard? :>
[09:03] <apparle> I have installed OSS drivers as ALSA are not working
[09:03] <apparle> now I can hear sound but no mic
[09:04] <apparle> when I connect mic sound gets reproduced from speakers but no recording is possible
[09:04] <apparle> Hey I also want to know how to use WIN key
[09:05] <mzolisi> Hey yotta
[09:05] <apparle> what
[09:05] <mzolisi> about the passwords in Kubuntu thing
[09:05] <jMerliNz> anyway, is there an easy way to make kubuntu's start menu open when i hit the windows key on my keyboard? :>
[09:05] <mzolisi> http://www.konqueror.org/faq/
[09:05] <mzolisi> i think that should help a bit
[09:06] <apparle> what about the sound card
[09:06] <Jucato> jMerliNz: I think there is, but you lose the Win key for any other usage afaik. you'll have to google a bit though. can't recall the exact steps
[09:06] <Jucato> jMerliNz: alternatively you can use Katapult (Alt+Space) or map the K Menu to Win+something
[09:06] <jMerliNz> well when i press the win key it does nothing
[09:06] <yotta> i found it already with grep -R
[09:07] <jMerliNz> surely you can bind winkey to open the menu but winkey + a valid hotkey to do some other function like in windows
[09:07] <jMerliNz> i'd like to have at the minimum windows key open the start menu and win+r open the konsole
[09:07] <Jucato> jMerliNz: yes. because it's not how the Win key behaves by default in Linux. it's a modifier key. meaning it has to be partnered with a regular key
[09:08] <Jucato> I'm not sure, but from what I experienced waay back (can't recall when), if I setup the Win key to launch the menu by default, that will be its only use
[09:08] <apparle> does anybody know why screensavers are slow in kubuntu
[09:08] <apparle> they play in steps
[09:08] <jMerliNz> get video drivers
[09:08] <Jucato> it loses its Meta key nature
[09:09] <apparle> I have ATi card how to get them
[09:09] <jMerliNz> go to www.ati.com
[09:10] <apparle> got the .run file next
[09:10] <Jucato> !ati
[09:10] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:12] <apparle> alright but is it possible to use the opensource drivers shiped with kbuntu
[09:12] <deadlyninja> does anyone know of a user friendly application to edit mpeg transport streams losslessly, i basically just want to cut data off the front and ends
[09:12] <jMerliNz> Jucato: those don't cover how to install nVidia's 8 series drivers
[09:13] <jMerliNz> it needs to be run as root with X turned off, so basically log out and open a TLS window?
[09:13] <Jucato> jMerliNz: um.. didn't he say ATI?
[09:14] <Jucato> and what nvidia 8 series drivers?
[09:14] <jMerliNz> yes but I have an 8800GTS for which I have the drivers
[09:14] <jMerliNz> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_100.14.19.html
[09:14] <jMerliNz> those.
[09:14] <Jucato> I was giving for apparle though
[09:14] <Jucato> !info nvidia-glx-new gutsy
[09:15] <apparle> hey the X11 drivers work with all the players like MPlayer then why not screensavers
[09:15] <ubotu> nvidia-glx-new: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'new' driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 100.14.19+2.6.22.4-12.4 (gutsy), package size 4896 kB, installed size 14848 kB
[09:15] <Jucato> jMerliNz: gutsy has that ^^^^
[09:17] <Jenniowl> Hey, does anybody know how to get a usb headset working? x.o
[09:18] <Jucato> still no luck w/ that?
[09:18] <Jenniowl> i kept crashing just as people told me :\
[09:18] <apparle> is there any thing like task manager for linux where i can view the processes
[09:18] <Jenniowl> so i lost what they told me
[09:18] <jMerliNz> also
[09:18] <jMerliNz> i just thought i'd mention
[09:19] <jMerliNz> when installing gutsy from the live CD
[09:19] <jMerliNz> using the normal mode (not OEM), after installing then rebooting the system, I got a failure to start O/S notification
[09:19] <jMerliNz> I'm using an eVGA 680i motherboard if that's at all relevant to the issue
[09:19] <jMerliNz> but installing via OEM worked fine
[09:20] <jMerliNz> a little frustrating :>
[09:20] <thill2708> sigh... I'm inbetween jobs, and I'm looking to keep my teeth sharp. Which open source project should I look at? Any suggestions?
[09:20] <Jucato> apparle: Ctrl+Esc
[09:21] <apparle> i am sitting on a public computer with XP
[09:22] <thill2708> apparle: do you only have terminal access to the linux computer?
[09:22] <Jenniowl> Hey, anybody know what 3rd party thing i have to allow for my adept manager to get the stuff for compiz?
[09:23] <apparle> What do u mean by terminal access. I am a new user
[09:23] <Jucato> Jenniowl: none. compiz is in the Ubuntu repositories already
 is there any thing like task manager for linux where i can view the processes <-- pressing Ctrl+Esc in Kubuntu does that
[09:24] <Jucato> !compiz | Jenniowl
[09:24] <ubotu> Jenniowl: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:24] <Jucato> for more info
[09:24] <thill2708> apparle: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-331065.html
[09:24] <Jenniowl> is there a more info thingy for usb headsets too ? >.>
[09:25] <thill2708> apparle: but yeah, pressing ctrl-esc in kubuntu will do it too, it's called the kde system guard
[09:25] <Jucato> (or part of it)
[09:25] <apparle> ok
[09:25] <apparle> anything like GDebi for kbuntu
[09:25] <Jucato> in gutsy there is
[09:26] <Jucato> gdebi-kde
[09:26] <Jucato> which will be released in 2 weeks...
[09:27] <thill2708> :( why isn't openoffice 2.3 getting pushed to fiesty?
[09:27] <apparle> gdebi-kde is going to be released in 2 wks
[09:27] <apparle> ??????????
[09:27] <Jucato> apparle: gutsy
[09:27] <thill2708> also, has the upgrade to gutsy from fiesty been ironed out?
[09:28] <Jucato> hm... that's the big question :)
[09:28] <jMerliNz> ...
[09:28] <thill2708> awesome :)
[09:28] <thill2708> hah
[09:28] <frejda> mluv tady nkdo esky
[09:28] <jMerliNz> why won't gutsy let you change the mouse ratio below 1.0?
[09:28] <apparle> what is gutsy
[09:28] <Jucato> !cz | frejda
[09:28] <ubotu> frejda: esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[09:28] <jMerliNz> i'm using a super high res mouse, it moves too fast even at 1.0 -.-
[09:28] <apparle> i have feisty 7.04
[09:29] <Jenniowl> OMG
[09:29] <Jenniowl> YAY!
[09:29] <Jenniowl> i got it working
[09:29] <Jucato> usb headsets?
[09:29] <Jenniowl> one of the damn compiz things didnt work and all the windows had no bars
[09:29] <Jenniowl> nope
[09:29] <Jenniowl> compiz
[09:29] <Jucato> aah :(
[09:29] <Jucato> hehe
[09:29] <Jenniowl> http://forlong.blogage.de/article/2007/8/26/The-best-way-to-install-Compiz-Fusion-on-Ubuntu-Feisty
[09:29] <slackern> spiderpig to the rescue
[09:29] <Jenniowl> i HIGHLY recommend that article for compiz fusion
[09:30] <apparle> what is gutsy
[09:30] <Jenniowl> it even lets the newbies beginners get it working
[09:30] <slackern> !gutsy
[09:30] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[09:31] <Jucato> apparle: next version of Kubuntu
[09:31] <apparle> when will the stable version release
[09:31] <Jenniowl> But still nobody knows about usb headsets? i really need to get it working :S
[09:31] <slackern> apparle: 28 oct if i remember right
[09:32] <Jucato> 18 october
[09:32] <thill2708> when's the next LTS release?
[09:32] <slackern> sorry i ment 18th october
[09:32] <Jucato> thill2708: 8.04
[09:32] <Snuxoll> thill2708: IIRC 8.04 will be LTS...
[09:32] <Jucato> April next year
[09:33] <apparle> what is LTS
[09:33] <Snuxoll> Wohoo...we sure drilled that version number in his head :p
[09:33] <Jucato> !lts | apparle
[09:33] <ubotu> apparle: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[09:33] <thill2708> hah
[09:34] <apparle> ok
[09:34] <Snuxoll> They had better make the 6.06 -> 8.04 upgrade path REAL easy though....
[09:34] <thill2708> hm, never thought about that
[09:34] <Jucato> (that will be a first...)
[09:34] <Snuxoll> I'd hate to see people FLIP that they have to do dist-upgrades through the WHOLE chain just to get to the next LTS...
[09:34] <Jucato> indeed
[09:34] <Snuxoll> That's why my servers always run the latest stable release :p
[09:35] <Jucato> although Dapper would still be supported on servers until 2011
[09:35] <Snuxoll> http://www.pgina.org/?page_id=11 Interesting....
[09:35] <apparle> is there any offline .deb package manager for kubuntu as gdebi in ubuntu
[09:35] <Jucato> and 2008 on desktops
[09:35] <Snuxoll> apparle: Right click the package
[09:35] <Jucato> apparle: unfortunately, nope
[09:35] <Jenniowl> okay >.> nother question, does anybody know how to get a intel proset wireless card to run on kubuntu feisty?
[09:36] <Jucato> apparle: but you can simply install the .deb package the way Snuxoll mentioned
[09:36] <Snuxoll> There isn't a pretty GUI one Jucato, but Kubuntu provides a easy way to launch dpkg
[09:36] <Jucato> Snuxoll: gdebi does more than just install .deb packages
[09:36] <Jucato> so it's not an exact equivalent
[09:36] <slackern> Ubuntu uses gdebi-gtk
[09:37] <apparle> but the method u mentiondoes not check dependecies and installs broken packages
[09:37] <slackern> atleast in gutsy right now
[09:37] <Jucato> apparle: yes. exactly
[09:37] <Jucato> slackern: gutsy has gdebi-kde
[09:37] <Jucato> and there's no gdebi-gtk
[09:38] <slackern> Sure there is if you are using ubuntu
[09:38] <apparle> can i use gdebi in kubuntu
[09:38] <Snuxoll> It DOES check dependencies....it just doesn't install them
[09:38] <Jucato> Snuxoll: gdebi checks and resolves
[09:38] <Snuxoll> Yes, it does
[09:38] <Jucato> "gdebi lets you install local deb packages resolving and installing its dependencies. apt does the same, but only for remote (http, ftp) located packages"
[09:38] <Snuxoll> I think apt-get can install .debs and check dep's too
[09:38] <Jucato> nope
[09:39] <Jucato> apt-get doesn't do local .deb files
[09:39] <Snuxoll> what about aptitude?
[09:39] <Jucato> aptitude uses apt
[09:39] <Snuxoll> Actually...it seems apt CAN install .debs
[09:39] <jMerliNz> why is the minimum multiplier for the mouse movement speed in gutsy 1.0???
[09:40] <Jucato> if you discovered how, please do share
[09:40] <jMerliNz> i'm sure it is likely the same in fiesty, is there a way to fix this?
[09:40] <Snuxoll> Hold on
[09:40] <apparle> I donot have net on my PC so i download packages from my college. So i wanna check if all dependencies are correct or not. So I want something like GDebi
[09:40] <thill2708> anyone here ever touch mythbuntu?
[09:40] <apparle> nope
[09:41] <Snuxoll> Nm...
[09:41] <Snuxoll> could have sworn...
[09:41] <Jucato> apparle: using dpkg (or the Kubuntu Service menu) will tell you what dependencies it needs if they are missing. then you can get those dependencies . but one by one
[09:41] <apparle> how to tell me
[09:42] <Jucato> apparle: just try to install it. it will complain about unmet dependencies. then take note of those and download those .deb packages too
[09:42] <Snuxoll> Or apt-get them...
[09:43] <Jucato> hm..
[09:43] <Jucato> !aptoncd
[09:43] <ubotu> APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers
[09:43] <apparle> just the thing is that for some packages it causes real problem because neither can I remove some of those broken packages nor reinstall them .
[09:44] <apparle> I have reinstalled whole system once due to this
[09:44] <jMerliNz> so how do you remove a modifier key?
[09:44] <jMerliNz> so i can use the windows key as a normal key?
[09:44] <apparle> I have a funny problem! input from mic gets reproduced from speakers but no recording is possible
[09:44] <Jucato> apparle: yes you can. dpkg --remove package (without the version numbers)
[09:44] <Jucato> or apt-get remove package (w/o the version numbers)
[09:46] <jMerliNz> anyone?
[09:46] <apparle> eg: I had put the OSS withput dependecies and there it was stuck neithere uninstalling nor reinstalling by above methods
[09:47] <jMerliNz> anyone?
[09:48] <mzolisi> beats me
[09:48] <apparle> how to mount image files like iso nrg etc
[09:48] <mzolisi> live without it
[09:48] <mzolisi> POWERISO
[09:48] <Jucato> !iso | apparle
[09:48] <ubotu> apparle: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[09:49] <mzolisi> !cake | mzolisi
[09:49] <apparle> and how to mount other image files
[09:49] <mzolisi> [09:45]  <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cake - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:49] <Jucato> apparle: like bin/cue?
[09:49] <apparle> no like nrg
[09:50] <Jucato> ah.. that I don't know. because nrg is a proprietary format by Nero
[09:50] <Jucato> but you can convert it to iso
[09:50] <Jucato> !info nrg2iso
[09:50] <ubotu> nrg2iso: Extracts ISO9660 data from Nero ".nrg" files. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4-1.1 (feisty), package size 4 kB, installed size 64 kB
[09:50] <Snuxoll> nrg?
[09:50] <mzolisi> !info poweriso
[09:50] <ubotu> Package poweriso does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[09:51] <apparle> how is acetone iso
[09:51] <mzolisi> oh
[09:51] <feimao> !info mds
[09:51] <Jucato> an ISO is an ISO, doesn't matter which app made it. it's a standard. but nrg isn't
[09:51] <ubotu> Package mds does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[09:53] <apparle> i mean the linux package which mounts image files
[09:53] <Snuxoll> apparle: What, you mean: mount ?
[09:53] <apparle> makes virtual drives and mounts on them
[09:54] <Jucato> apparle: the command was given already
[09:54] <apparle> http://www.acetoneteam.org/central.html
[09:54] <Jucato> where <mountpoint> would be the equivalent of your virtual drive
[09:54] <apparle> see the link
[09:54] <Jucato> there is no need for 3rd party applications
[09:54] <Jucato> the ability to mount ISO's as a "virtual drive" is already built-in
[09:55] <Jucato> there's no package for acetoneiso2 though
[09:55] <Jucato> I mean, no package from Ubuntu.
[09:55] <apparle> and how to make iso images. Is it possible to do so with k3b
[09:56] <Jucato> yeah I think so (not really sure on that one)
[09:56] <justin__> alright, so how do you make windows a non-modifier key jucato?
[09:56] <apparle> yes i also wanna know how to use win key
[09:56] <Jucato> justin__: like I said ealier.. I don't know...
[09:57] <justin__> doesn't show up with a google..
[09:57] <apparle> If the CD is scratched then what to do
[09:58] <Jucato> apparle: it's scratched... what else can you do?
[09:58] <apparle> If it is a movie disc with some part scratched then can I copy it
[09:59] <mzolisi> use CDclinic
[09:59] <apparle> can k3b do anything about it
[10:00] <apparle> what did you say about checking md5 sum before burning
[10:03] <apparle> is CDclinic in ubuntu feisty repositories
[10:04] <apparle> hello mzolisi
[10:04] <apparle> are u there
[10:05] <apparle> hello any body there
[10:05] <berkes> apparle: no :)
[10:05] <apparle> Jucato : what did u say about checking md5 of iso before burning
[10:06] <berkes> does anyone know a way to find a certain entry(passw) from kwalletmanager via commandline?
[10:06] <apparle> What to do about reading scratched discs
[10:06] <Jucato> I didn't say anything
[10:07] <waylandbill_> apparle: use md5sum to read the iso.
[10:08] <apparle> jucato:sorry
[10:08] <apparle> waylandbill_		apparle: use md5sum to read the iso.      what do u mean
[10:09] <maruco> hi I need some serious help
[10:09] <shane1234> we all need some serious help
[10:09] <maruco> I don't know how but now I cannot use KDE except for the failsafe mode
[10:09] <maruco> I mean
[10:09] <maruco> nothing is working
[10:09] <waylandbill_> apparle: the program that reads the md5 checksum is called md5sum. It's available for just about any platform as it is open source. Use google to find a suitable version.
[10:10] <maruco> I cannot even use my browser to surf the net here
[10:10] <apparle> alright
[10:10] <apparle> \I have a funny problem! input from mic gets reproduced from speakers but no recording is possible. please help
[10:10] <maruco> do you think that if I download ubuntu-desktop and then try to restart everything can be useful?
[10:10] <maruco> I tried to get a gutsy cd but it seems not to work
[10:11] <reganomics>  I thought K3b checked the md5sum as it prepared to burn a nominatted ISO file
[10:12] <apparle> i don't know do u
[10:12] <apparle> I have a funny problem! input from mic gets reproduced from speakers but no recording is possible. please help
[10:12] <apparle> I have a funny problem! input from mic gets reproduced from speakers but no recording is possible. please help
[10:12] <apparle> I have a funny problem! input from mic gets reproduced from speakers but no recording is possible. please help
[10:12] <apparle> I have a funny problem! input from mic gets reproduced from speakers but no recording is possible. please help
[10:12] <apparle> I have a funny problem! input from mic gets reproduced from speakers but no recording is possible. please help
[10:12] <apparle> hey please help man
[10:13] <apparle> anybody expert here
[10:14] <waylandbill_> !patience
[10:14] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:14] <ubuntu_> apparle:  see this thread:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[10:14] <waylandbill_> apparle: you should check the mixer settings. You may have the wrong line selected for input.
[10:15] <apparle> alright I will be patient. The only thing is that ia am trying to use the mic for a month and i am frustrated
[10:15] <ubuntu_> also if you have more than 1 sound device that could be the problem
[10:15] <apparle> I have selected correct line: Still nothing
[10:16] <apparle> i only have one sound device wich is onboard
[10:16] <ubuntu_> ah ok
[10:16] <ubuntu_> no usb devices?
[10:17] <apparle> only my oendrive
[10:17] <apparle> sorry pendrive
[10:17] <ubuntu_> ok, have a look through that link I gave you, it is really good :)
[10:18] <apparle> it is opening I have slow conncetion
[10:18] <ubuntu_> ok
[10:18] <ubuntu_> it's a long read, but I'm sure it will give you some pointers :)
[10:21] <apparle> I had read it before. I use OSS drivers as ALSA doesn't work for me at all( tried everything for a month). My board RC4107MA-RS2.
[10:21] <ubuntu_> bugger :(
[10:21] <apparle> what
[10:22] <mzolisi> What is OSS?
[10:22] <waylandbill_> open sound system
[10:22] <apparle> Open sound drivers
[10:22] <ubuntu_> what sound device is it?  open a terminal and type this: lspci | grep audio
[10:22] <apparle> sorry
[10:22] <apparle> open sound system
[10:23] <apparle> i am sitting on a public PC don't have net at home
[10:23] <ubuntu_> ah
[10:23] <ubuntu_> copy that command down and run it later maybe :)
[10:23] <apparle> Please see if u get any body with the motherboad RC4107MA-RS2 and working linux sound
[10:23] <ubuntu_> it will show you what your sound device is
[10:24] <apparle> try google I didn't find any thing
[10:24] <apparle> alright I have to go bye
[10:42] <[ifr0g] > hplip.. Do i really need that ?
[10:42] <naught101> anyone here running vanilla KDE instead of kubuntu-desktop?
[10:45] <distri> hi early here in morning
[10:45] <distri> not even 5 m and i'm up already
[10:46] <distri> anyone here know about
[10:47] <distri> deleting masses of files?
[10:47] <distri> each one has to have permissions changed
[10:48] <distri> i got 256 files have change permissions and deleted
[10:48] <distri> what's the command line for this
[10:50] <distri> please help
[10:50] <hangthedj> you want to change the permissions and then delete them?
[10:50] <distri> me i don't know about linux
[10:51] <distri> hangthedj you know ?
[10:51] <naught101> distri: you probably don't need to change the permissions, just delete them as root (with sudo, or su)
[10:51] <naught101> are tehy all in one folder?
[10:52] <distri> i tried it and i have to change permissions on all 256 folders first
[10:52] <distri> all 256 folders have one file each
[10:53] <vitaly> Sorry if I ask question form FAQ. Today when I upgrade kubuntu 6.06 Adept crash with error 11 (sigserv). I found information if bug list but can't find how to repair.
[10:53] <naught101> distri: are all the folders in one folder?
[10:53] <distri> yes i renamed it g
[10:53] <hangthedj> distri, sudo rm -rv g
[10:53] <distri> i can rename it g but can't rename all those 256 folders
[10:54] <naught101> what hangthedj said
[10:54] <hangthedj> distri, that will remove the folder g, and all the subfolders
[10:54] <Jucato> you can do it also from inside a "root" konqueror window: kdesu konqueror
[10:54] <Jucato> (don't forget to close Konqueror after that and don't use it to go online)
[10:55] <distri> oh thnks
[10:55] <distri> i wish i knew all these commands thanks for help
[11:00] <aantipop> if i insert a usb-stick on a machine where the live-cd runs, will i have write access to the usb stick ?
[11:01] <Jucato> yep
[11:01] <Jucato> (or at least it should)
[11:03] <civixier> gah, when im downloading something from beryl-themes.org it keeps opening the binary file in kate :( how do i just save it?
[11:06] <hangthedj> civixier, the quick sloppy fix, you can open the link in a new tab or window, then go to location save page as.  or copy the url, and open kget and add the file to it.
[11:07] <civixier> hmm, ill try that. thx :D
[11:07] <Jucato> other fix, use kget and integrate w/ konqueror
[11:08] <civixier> !uninstall
[11:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uninstall - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:09] <hangthedj> i've got kget integrated with konqueror and it still opens in kate, i just don't download enough deb files to care.
[11:09] <civixier> hmm.. it worked downloading it in firefox ^^
[11:09] <Jucato> yeah the problem is on the server side
[11:10] <hangthedj> yeah, downloading deb files from, like sourceforge never opens in konqueror
[11:10] <hangthedj> i mean kate.
[11:13] <civixier> okay now... how do I switch from my current interface to beryl?
[11:13] <hangthedj> i dunno, i don't use beryl :(
[11:13] <civixier> :(
[11:13] <hangthedj> try running beryl-manager
[11:17] <zorg_the_false> q. gutsy is 'due' this month, but is there any specified day within this month ?
[11:18] <gnomefreak> zorg_the_false: if you join #ubuntu+1 and look in topic it should give you a link
[11:18] <gnomefreak> zorg_the_false: #ubuntu+1 is the only place for gutsy questions atm
[11:19] <zorg_the_false> gnomefreak: ok i will wait the end of the month then :)
[11:20] <Jucato> Oct. 18 would have been the answer if he stuck around long enough...
[11:20] <Jucato> oh well..
[11:27] <[ifr0g] > device not accepting address 45, error -71
[11:27] <[ifr0g] > ???
[11:31] <naught101> where does one go about changing the multimedia keys settings in kubuntu?
[11:33] <naught101> ie. kmilo settings. my laptop's volume up/down/mute keys are no longer working
[11:33] <Jenniowl> Oi im having a lovely new issue guys x.x adept manager wont open, ive tried rebooting, it keeps telling me its in use by another prog
[11:33] <Jenniowl> and as i note, mine are having that same issue
[11:33] <Jenniowl> >.>
[11:34] <Jenniowl> they worked fine earlier, then they just stopped working, but that doesnt bother me too bad
[11:34] <hangthedj> naught101, you have to uninstall kmilo, and then use kmix to configure global and regular shortcuts.
[11:34] <naught101> hangthedj: will do
[11:34] <Jenniowl> not hte same prog XD just bad luck on my end with stuff today
[11:34] <hangthedj> kmilo, seriously needs to be worked on
[11:34] <Jenniowl> the*
[11:35] <hangthedj> if it doesn't recognize your card from like 4 or 5 in its settings it sets you to generic
[11:35] <hangthedj> and generic has pcm first, kmilo will only work if master is first.
[11:36] <hangthedj> !fixadept
[11:36] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[11:37] <Jenniowl> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of compiz-extra:
[11:37] <Jenniowl>  compiz-core (1:0.5.2+git20070918-0ubuntu5~ppa1) breaks compiz-extra (<= 0.3.6.1-0ubuntu2) and is installed.
[11:37] <Jenniowl>   Version of compiz-extra to be configured is 0.3.6.1-0ubuntu2.
[11:37] <Jenniowl> dpkg: error processing compiz-extra (--configure):
[11:37] <Jenniowl>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[11:37] <Jenniowl> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:37] <Jenniowl>  compiz-extra
[11:37] <Jenniowl> i cant even get in to remove the package :S
[11:38] <hangthedj> Jenniowl, try in a konsole aptitude install -f
[11:38] <Jenniowl> Reading package lists... Done
[11:39] <Jenniowl> Building dependency tree
[11:39] <Jenniowl> Reading state information... Done
[11:39] <Jenniowl> Initializing package states... Done
[11:39] <Jenniowl> Building tag database... Done
[11:39] <Jenniowl> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[11:39] <Jenniowl> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[11:39] <hangthedj> sorry
[11:39] <hangthedj> sudo aptitude install -f
[11:39] <Jenniowl> heh
[11:39] <hangthedj> ;)
[11:39] <Jenniowl> Reading package lists... Done
[11:39] <Jenniowl> Building dependency tree
[11:39] <Jenniowl> Reading state information... Done
[11:39] <Jenniowl> Initializing package states... Done
[11:39] <Jenniowl> Building tag database... Done
[11:39] <Jenniowl> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[11:39] <Jenniowl> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[11:39] <Jenniowl> gah
[11:41] <Jenniowl> Resolving dependencies...
[11:41] <hangthedj> try 'sudo aptitude remove compiz-extra'
[11:41] <Jenniowl> The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
[11:41] <Jenniowl> Upgrade the following packages:
[11:41] <Jenniowl> compiz-core [1:0.5.2+git20070918-0ubuntu5~ppa1 (now) ->
[11:41] <Jenniowl> 1:0.5.2+git20070918-0ubuntu5~ppa1 (feisty)] 
[11:41] <Jenniowl> Score is 0
[11:41] <Jenniowl> Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] 
[11:41] <Jenniowl> im assuming the Y choice here?
[11:41] <hangthedj> yes
[11:42] <Jenniowl> dpkg: error processing compiz-extra (--configure):
[11:42] <Jenniowl>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[11:42] <Jenniowl> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:42] <Jenniowl>  compiz-extra
[11:42] <Jenniowl> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:42] <Jenniowl> A package failed to install.  Trying to recover:
[11:42] <hangthedj> ok, try doing the later,
[11:42] <Jenniowl> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of compiz-extra:
[11:42] <hangthedj> try 'sudo aptitude remove compiz-extra'
[11:42] <Jenniowl>  compiz-core (1:0.5.2+git20070918-0ubuntu5~ppa1) breaks compiz-extra (<= 0.3.6.1-0ubuntu2) and is installed.
[11:42] <Jenniowl>   Version of compiz-extra to be configured is 0.3.6.1-0ubuntu2.
[11:42] <Jenniowl> dpkg: error processing compiz-extra (--configure):
[11:42] <Jenniowl>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[11:42] <Jenniowl> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:42] <Jenniowl>  compiz-extra
[11:43] <naught101> hangthedj: now kmix doesn't recognise the raise/lower/mute volume keys
[11:43] <hangthedj> gusty will be out soon, and right now it has dependable compiz-fusion packages.
[11:43] <Jenniowl> AH
[11:43] <Jenniowl> therewe go
[11:43] <Jenniowl> :)
[11:44] <Jenniowl> awesome
[11:44] <hangthedj> naught101, you have to set the default channel, and open the mixer window, and select global shortcuts.
[11:44] <Jenniowl> thanks for the help there :D
[11:44] <hangthedj> no problem. compiz has made me crazy for a long time.
[11:44] <naught101> hangthedj: yeah, that's what I did. when I try to assign the keys, pressing them gives no response
[11:44] <Jenniowl> its so much fun >.> its the biggest reason im trying linux out so much
[11:45] <hangthedj> naught101, when i first did it i had to reboot to get rid of kmilo once and for all.
[11:45] <naught101> ok, I might give that a go
[11:46] <Jenniowl> Hey hangthedj, any idea how to get a "intel proset wireless a/b/g internal wireless card working?
[11:46] <hangthedj> and sudo modprobe button
[11:46] <hangthedj> laptop?
[11:46] <Jenniowl> mhhm
[11:46] <naught101> button? before or after reboot?
[11:46] <hangthedj> try rebooting first.
[11:47] <hangthedj> not sure, i have an Atheros.
[11:47] <Jenniowl> blagh, i want to use wireless
[11:47] <hangthedj> try www.linux-laptops.org.  and find your laptop.  its an awesome site.
[11:47] <Jenniowl> it should have decent support, dell is good for that
[11:47] <seicherlbob> hi there! what permissions do i need to set, if i want to allow a user to config network interfaces
[11:49] <hangthedj> seicherlbob, i think the best way would be to add them to the /etc/sudoers file so they can use sudo.
[11:50] <seicherlbob> hangthedj: the thing is, i want to write some c-programms/shell scripts to choose network profiles from acpi-events (on my laptop). I would like to avoid entering the password all the time
[11:51] <seicherlbob> i only want my user to have access to network-config stuff (interfaces, dhcp, vpnc)
[11:51] <hangthedj> seicherlbob, i think, if thats what you want, you can set that up in the /etc/sudoers file.  try man sudoers
[11:52] <hangthedj> oh, i'm not really sure then.  sorry
[11:52] <seicherlbob> hmm... ok. thanks
[11:52] <avain> Oh, right, before i forget, how do i get mp3 support going again?
[11:52] <hangthedj> !find libxine-extracodecs
[11:53] <ubotu> Found: libxine-extracodecs
[11:53] <hangthedj> !info libxine-extracodecs | avain
[11:53] <ubotu> avain: libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, transitional package. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.4-2ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 38 kB, installed size 68 kB
[11:58] <avain> ouch x.o
[11:59] <jenniowl> i got one once when i was 16 x.x
[11:59] <jenniowl> i had a gum infection
[11:59] <mzolisi> hi jenniowl
[11:59] <jenniowl> so the 3 they did that day had no freezing :D
[11:59] <jenniowl> Allo
[11:59] <mzolisi> 3 root canals in the same day?
[11:59] <mzolisi> that's gotta hurt
[12:00] <mzolisi> ...or not
[12:00] <Jucato> anyone know of a quick and dirty way to convert WAV to OGG?
[12:01] <mzolisi> soundKonverter?
[12:01] <mzolisi> command line...........
[12:01] <mzolisi> using lame....
[12:01] <mzolisi> would be...
[12:01] <Jucato> but lame is for mp3 :)
[12:01] <mzolisi> really?
[12:02] <Jucato> LAME = LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder
[12:02] <Jucato> anyway, found one I think. thanks anyway
[12:03] <mzolisi> therefore...
[12:03] <Jucato> http://lame.sourceforge.net/index.php
[12:03] <Jucato> that's about lame
[12:04] <mzolisi> what's OGG
[12:04] <Jucato> !ogg
[12:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:04] <Jucato> a free multimedia format
[12:04] <Jucato> ogg vorbis for audio, ogg theora for video
[12:05] <luyza> that would be ideal but not always feasable
[12:05] <Jucato> http://www.vorbis.com/
[12:05] <Jucato> ???
[12:05] <mzolisi> cool
[12:05] <Jucato> I'm converting a WAV (lossless) to OGG (lossy) for myself. what's not feasible about that?
[12:06] <Snuxoll|Sleep> Nothing isn't feasible about that
[12:06] <Jucato> I rest my case
[12:06] <luyza> oh god, how long will it take to convert 40GB to convert :P  And how will I transfer ogg to ipod >_>
[12:06] <Snuxoll|Sleep> luyza: User AAC isntead?
[12:07] <mzolisi> what kind of musdic is it?
[12:07] <Jucato> sorry but I don't care about your ipod. I was looking for a wav to ogg converter. so my case isn't your case
[12:07] <Snuxoll|Sleep> Jucato: ffmpeg can do it, so can VLC
[12:07] <luyza> oh must have missed that part as i kind of just joined the channel ^^
[12:08] <Jucato> yes. that's why I was surprised at your sudden interjection
[12:08] <emilsedgh> Jucato: soundKonverter ?
[12:08] <Jucato> Snuxoll|Sleep: thanks. apparently oggenc doesn't accept wavs.. hm...
[12:08] <mzolisi> It really depnds on what type of music you're listening to
[12:08] <Jucato> emilsedgh: quick and dirty.. that's too fancy :)
[12:08] <Jucato> it's not music
[12:08] <Snuxoll|Sleep> I listen to fall out boy :)
[12:08] <emilsedgh> jussi01: so try transkode amarok scripts ;)
[12:08] <emilsedgh> Jucato: ^
[12:09] <Snuxoll|Sleep> And Panic! at the Disco...
[12:09] <Snuxoll|Sleep> and Nickelback...
[12:09] <Snuxoll|Sleep> does that say something about me?
[12:10] <jussi01> grrr
[12:10] <Snuxoll|Sleep> night
[12:11] <jussi01> emilsedgh: this is an annoying ping....
[12:11] <emilsedgh> jussi01: sorry, im really sorry
[12:11] <jussi01> heheeheheh
[12:11] <jussi01> no probs... :) Just had to take my frustration out on someone....
[12:12] <emilsedgh> jussi01: :P
[12:13] <mzolisi> Jucato, the reason why i'm asking is because there is a limit as to how much you ear will pick up
[12:14] <mzolisi> For instance, classical music vs Rock
[12:14] <Jucato> mzolisi: I see. the WAV file is of good quality and it's an interview. not music
[12:14] <mzolisi> Similar to phone calls
[12:14] <Jucato> anyway... nvm :)
[12:14] <mzolisi> loss tolerant, i see, My mistae
[12:17] <klinter> hi everyone
[12:18] <klinter> can someone please help me out with setting RT61 wifi card on Kubuntu 7.4 ?
[12:19] <jussi01> !wireless | klinter
[12:19] <ubotu> klinter: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:19] <seicherlbob> does anybody know how to work with sudoers file? the man page is a bit... confusing
[12:21] <Jucato> whatever you do, use visudo. don't edit directly
[12:34] <jeri> hi everyone!
[12:34] <Doctor_Nick> video gaems
[12:34] <Doctor_Nick> :D
[12:35] <jeri> im still here trying to figure how my frostwire will work
[12:35] <jeri> ive just installled it,and i think a plugin,i dont know what
[12:35] <nekoo> Ok, nju
[12:36] <naught101> hangthedj: didn't work (modprobe button didn't fix the inactivity of the media buttons)
[12:36] <jeri> can someone help me?
[12:38] <naught101> !ask
[12:38] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:39] <nekoo> sorry but i don't youse frostwire so i cant, nju
[12:39] <jeri> wat command do i use to install libxines-extracodecs for dapper?
[12:42] <klinter> RT61, aka rt 2561, please help me set it up before I crawl back to XP...
[12:43] <[ifr0g] > jeri, i think apt-get ..
[12:47] <nekoo> apt-get install (softwere)
[12:52] <jeri> how do i make my dapper boot fast?
[12:58] <naught101> ok. This is the only problem I've ever caused that I haven't been able to find any information about fixing
[12:59] <naught101> can someone on a laptop (dell latitude prefereably), run xev from a console, and tell me what symbol they get for the media buttons?
[12:59] <naught101> ie. volume up/down/mute
[01:01] <naught101> I get "keycode 176 (keysym 0x0, NoSymbol)"
[01:03] <klinter> how can i figure out which video card I have?
[01:05] <naught101> klinter: lspci
[01:07] <klinter> naught101: 10x
[01:07] <naught101> eh?
[01:07] <klinter> thanks
[01:07] <klinter> kiddi slang :)
[01:07] <naught101> heh
[01:08] <Doctor_Nick> :D
[01:12] <Doctor_Nick> :D
[01:12] <klinter> another silly question, where in kubuntu can I switch on the restricted drivers?
[01:16] <naught101> anyone know what package or process creates the X key bindings for multimedia keys?
[01:16] <jussi01> !shortcuts
[01:16] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at http://keytouch.sourceforge.net (GNOME) or https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys (KDE) - See !Keyboard for changing layouts
[01:16] <naught101> the defulat ones for kubuntu,Imean
[01:17] <jussi01> naught101: does that help?
[01:17] <naught101> jussi01: cheers, but the keys were working when kubuntu was freshly installed, as edgy
[01:17] <naught101> and a friend has a similar system, and it works on his, so I assume that there's some default that works, I want to go back to that
[01:18] <pippo> hi all, I have a problem configurin 855resolution, I have an ATI x300 and I can't obtain 1280x800
[01:18] <pippo> I am trying to set 855resolution but it says "Unknow VBIOS"
[01:18] <pippo> how can I do
[01:18] <pippo> ?
[01:19] <jussi01> naught101: you could run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg however you would then need to redo your display drivers also
[01:19] <jussi01> !ati | pippo
[01:19] <ubotu> pippo: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:19] <pippo> thanks now I will try
[01:20] <naught101> jussi01: is it xserver-xorg that would do it?
[01:20] <naught101> display drivers aren't a huge hassle
[01:20] <jussi01> naught101: it has keyboard config options in there
[01:20] <jussi01> however im not sure if it helps you all
[01:21] <atlfalcons866> can i install kubuntu on a ntfs partition
[01:22] <emilsedgh> atlfalcons866: why you want to do so?!
[01:23] <atlfalcons866> i dont want to i am just wondering if kubuntu could
[01:23] <atlfalcons866> i hate ntfs
[01:24] <atlfalcons866> i hate fat32,windows,ntfs, and everything to do with microsoft
[01:25] <Dragnslcr> In theory, maybe, but since write support for NTFS isn't completely reliable, I doubt it will be an option any time soon
[01:26] <sonoftheclayr> Alright, this is really bugging me. Whenever I click on some text in Firefox a blinking cursor comes up and stays there and really annoys me. Anybody know what it or how I can stop it doing that?
[01:27] <naught101> jussi01:  no joy. would I need to reboot? or restart x?
[01:29] <jussi01> naught101: restart x at least
[01:30] <naught101> jussi01: you rock
[01:30] <naught101> kmilo is even working again
[01:30] <sonoftheclayr> Okay it's certainly something in my profile but it isn't a theme or plugin.
[01:30] <naught101> every thing is sweeeeeet
[01:30] <naught101> thakns
[01:30] <naught101> er.. thanks
[01:31] <vargran> hi everyone!
[01:31] <jussi01> naught101: great :)
[01:32] <vargran> I got laptop Asus X50V series, it has Ati Mobility Radeon X2300, kubuntu 7.04. the question: how do I make all it work together? the main problem: X doesn't start and I got wxga not vga.
[01:33] <boubbin> im unable to play dvd's because i cant "select" anything fro mthe menu, the menu screen just rolls on and on but i cant push "play", how to fix ?
[01:35] <vargran> any ideas?
[01:47] <atlfalcons866> will kde4 be in gutsy
[01:47] <jussi01> atlfalcons866: not as default
[01:47] <jussi01> its only beta atm
[01:47] <jussi01> and not really useable yet
[01:48] <atlfalcons866> will it be in the software resportoys when it is out of beta and stable
[01:48] <Daisuke_Ido> possibly 3rd party
[01:48] <naught101> how would I go about installing the source package for kmilo (or kdeutils), from apt?
[01:48] <Jucato> atlfalcons866: packages for KDE will be made
[01:48] <Daisuke_Ido> the best one can hope for at this point is a possible inclusion in hardy
[01:48] <jussi01> naught101: what do you mean?
[01:48] <Daisuke_Ido> or a probable inclusion in hardy+1
[01:48] <Jucato> well... kubuntu.org isn't exactly your run of the mill "3rd party"
[01:49] <naught101> jussi01: http://downloads.guillermoamaral.com/linux/kde/kmilo/howto
[01:49] <Jucato> Daisuke_Ido: no inclusion in hardy either
[01:49] <nosrednaekim> naught101:  you have to enable the source repositores, and then run "sudo apt-get source kdeutils"
[01:49] <naught101> first couple of lines
[01:49] <Daisuke_Ido> Jucato: true
[01:49] <squashball_> how do I add/remove a boot service to the runlevels?
[01:49] <Daisuke_Ido> ooh, so hardy+1 at best?
[01:49] <naught101> nosrednaekim: I have done that..
[01:49] <Jucato> naught101: why compile? it's int he repositories
[01:49] <atlfalcons866> so the release after hardy will have kde4
[01:49] <Jucato> Daisuke_Ido: yes
[01:49] <naught101> ahhh... sourcs...
[01:49] <naught101> Jucato: I want to patch it
[01:49] <Jucato> atlfalcons866: by default. yes
[01:49] <nosrednaekim> atlfalcons866: well, gutsy does have kde4, but its not defualt
[01:49] <naught101> thanks nosrednaekim
[01:50] <atlfalcons866> ok
[01:50] <Jucato> naught101: might want to "sudo apt-get build-dep kmilo" too
[01:50] <atlfalcons866> does kubuntu have an offical website
[01:50] <Jucato> just to make sure that you get all the necessary dependencies to build kmilo
[01:50] <naught101> Jucato: what does that do?
[01:50] <Jucato> atlfalcons866: of course. http://kubuntu.org
[01:50] <Jucato> naught101: I just said it :)
[01:50] <naught101> heh :)
[01:50] <atlfalcons866> ok
[01:50] <Jucato> "build-dep causes apt-get to install/remove packages in an attempt to satisfy the build dependencies for a source package"
[01:50] <atlfalcons866> i find kde for faster than gnome
[01:50] <Jucato> from man:/apt-get
[01:51] <andres_> Hola Yonkis del Ubuntu
[01:51] <naught101> Jucato: since I already have kmilo installed, wouldn't it be safe to assume that I don't need to deal with dependancies?
[01:51] <jussi01> naught101: yeah, your fine
[01:51] <naught101> sweet
[01:52] <Jucato> naught101: you misunderstand. build-dep are for the dependencies to **build** a package
[01:52] <andres_> Repito hola (hi) yonkis del Kubuntu
[01:52] <naught101> ah, ok. as in dev versions?
[01:52] <Jucato> andres_: English only please
[01:52] <andres_> nono in bin version
[01:52] <Jucato> naught101: whatever is needed to build it. -dev and others
[01:53] <Jucato> naught101: the normal dependencies are what you call "runtime" dependencies, dependencies that are needed just to be able to run it
[01:53] <andres_> Jucato: Sorry, I'm spanish, my english is horrible
[01:53] <Jucato> build dependencies are different
[01:53] <Jucato> !es | andres_
[01:53] <ubotu> andres_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:53] <naught101> yeah, ok.
[01:53] <andres_> thank you
[01:54] <pramod> hello guys...
[01:54] <Jucato> hello
[01:54] <pramod> is it worthwhile to install beryl on my kubuntu?
[01:54] <Jucato> hm... tricky question..
[01:54] <pramod> really?
[01:54] <Jucato> :)
[01:54] <pramod> wat's tricky in it?
[01:54] <Jucato> let's just say it works for some and not for others
[01:55] <pramod> ah okie...
[01:55] <Jucato> but it's relatively stable and works well
[01:55] <pramod> so i better not install it... :)
[01:55] <michael071> ubuntu rulesz!!
[01:55] <pramod> thanx
[01:55] <pramod> yeah it rules...
[01:55] <Jucato> actually it's ok
[01:55] <pramod> :)
[01:55] <Jucato> it runs, its fun, its beautiful
[01:55] <Jucato> but how it plays with KDE isn't perfect...
[01:55] <pramod> okie i will try it...
[01:55] <michael071> i format today my pc and install ubuntu
[01:55] <Jucato> so there are just a very few bumps
[01:55] <michael071> no windows anymore !
[01:55] <pramod> ah... so i prefer forget it...
[01:55] <nosrednaekim> pramod: you're not going to permanatly srew anything up though.
[01:56] <pramod> any cool applications i can use?
[01:56] <pramod> well i tried to remove mesa glx once and it removed all my applications...
[01:56] <mickael_> d
[01:56] <pramod> so i had to reinstall
[01:56] <pramod> so i prefer not take any risk...
[01:56] <pramod> i use panda3d...
[01:57] <pramod> and mesa does not work with it since it use software rendering...
[01:57] <pramod> so i had to install nvidia-glx-new
[01:57] <pramod> phew... with some patience i was able to make panda work...
[01:58] <nosrednaekim> pramod: yeah... if you are using nvidia, beryl really isn't that hard.
[01:58] <pramod> okie....
[01:59] <pramod> btw... we got any other links other that the kubuntu archives to install kubuntu packages?
[01:59] <Sin_Citadel> hi, does anyone know how to change the start up apps on kubuntu
[02:00] <nosrednaekim> pramod: why?
[02:01] <nosrednaekim> Sin_Citadel: what do you want removed?
[02:01] <pramod> pehaps there may be some third party packages not found in the kubuntu archive server... btw am from mauritius... so i use the mu server...
[02:02] <Sin_Citadel> nosrednaekim: nothin removed ,  i want to add some apps on my startup
[02:02] <nosrednaekim> Sin_Citadel: just a second..
[02:02] <Jucato> Sin_Citadel: by default, when you leave apps running when you logout, they will be restarted when you login
[02:02] <Jucato> KDE Session Management
[02:03] <Jucato> !autostart
[02:03] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[02:03] <Sin_Citadel> ok
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: I knew there was an easier way ;)
[02:03] <Sin_Citadel> and GUI?
[02:03] <Sin_Citadel> i mean, is there a GUI for it?
[02:03] <Jucato> "The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory."
[02:03] <Sin_Citadel> all right
[02:04] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: they need to put that in...
[02:04] <Jucato> of course nothing's easier than leaving it running and then logging out
[02:04] <Jucato> nosrednaekim: put what?
[02:04] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: the autostart module.
[02:04] <Jucato> nosrednaekim: it's in ubotu's factoid
[02:04] <Jucato> besides, the session management is nicer :)
[02:05] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: lol... no I mean in kcontrol
[02:05] <Squidy> hello.. yesterday i tried to upgrade from kubuntu feisty to gutsy with adept_manager.. but i think there was a bug on upgrade process of kubuntu.. i don't know... but when the manager asked me about remove some packages unacessary, the window simply closed when i click on remove.. :(
[02:05] <Jucato> and the only reason why people don't use it is because they don't know about it :)
[02:05] <pramod> what is the best package manager we can use to install applications on kubuntu?
[02:05] <Jucato> Adept Manager?
[02:05] <pramod> wat is more practical?
[02:05] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: yeah... someone needs to do a review of all the features of system settings.
[02:05] <pramod> Adept?
[02:05] <Jucato> !best | pramod
[02:05] <Jucato> hm.. ubotu??
[02:05] <Squidy> Jucato: adept_manager --release-upgrade or something about that
[02:06] <ubotu> pramod: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[02:06] <wii> does anyone knows about kget?
[02:06] <Jucato> Squidy: it crashed for me too. had to go do it manually. use "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade --install-recommends"
[02:06] <pramod> ok... wat most users recommend?
[02:06] <Jucato> apt-get :P
[02:06] <pramod> kget?
[02:06] <pramod> yea
[02:07] <nosrednaekim> pramod: I use synaptic, the one for Ubuntu
[02:07] <pramod> it's a download manager that works with Konqueror
[02:07] <Squidy> Jucato: humm.. i'm going to try..
[02:07] <pramod> yeah... that's the name i was looking for Synaptic...
[02:07] <Squidy> thanks for while
[02:07] <Jucato> Squidy: take note of the last option
[02:07] <Jucato> --install-recommends
[02:07] <wii> pramod: i want to download a lot of stuff bu i want it to download 1by1 not all the same time
[02:07] <Sin_Citadel> i installed it
[02:08] <Sin_Citadel> it doesnt have a link on my shortcurts
[02:08] <pramod> Btw i use linux kubuntu feisty fawn 7.04
[02:08] <Squidy> Jucato: ok.. when that occured i restarted the system and the net and audio didn't work anymore :'(
[02:08] <Sin_Citadel> where can i run it from?
[02:09] <Jucato> Sin_Citadel: Alt+F2, kcontrol
[02:09] <pramod> can we create images for cd in kubuntu???
[02:09] <Sin_Citadel> all right
[02:09] <Jucato> it won't be in your shortcuts
[02:09] <Jucato> pramod: you mean ISO?
[02:09] <wii> pramod: i want to download a lot of stuff bu i want it to download 1by1 not all the same time.do u know how can i make it download 1by1?
[02:09] <pramod> yeah... and we can load it virtually...
[02:09] <kuber> how can I add an init script to the runlevel?
[02:10] <pramod> ISO...
[02:11] <Sin_Citadel> Jucato: how can i configure apt-get to download multiple packages simultaneously
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> wii: just wget does things 1 by 1
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> Sin_Citadel: just add the program names at the end
[02:11] <Jucato> Sin_Citadel: I believe it does, but only in the background
[02:11] <pramod> u mean kget
[02:11] <pramod> and just queue themmm
[02:11] <Jucato> Sin_Citadel: um.. what do you mean?
[02:12] <nosrednaekim> Sin_Citadel: like "apt-get install package1 package1"
[02:12] <Sin_Citadel> i mean, if i want to download 10 packages, it downloads then 1 by 1, i want is for it to download 3/4 packages at a time
[02:12] <Jucato> nosrednaekim: ^^^^
[02:12] <pramod> Wii: u can queue them and then put a schedule according to their time
[02:13] <Jucato> pramod: wii not Wii.. unless you want to play w/ him :P
[02:13] <Jucato> j/k
[02:13] <Miii> pramod: why should i put a time when i dont even know when the first one is going to finish
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> actually its Miii now ;)
[02:14] <Miii> Jucato: lol
[02:14] <Jucato> hahah
[02:14] <Sin_Citadel> how can i configure 70debconf file
[02:14] <pramod> it gives you th time remaining... :)
[02:14] <Sin_Citadel> so that apt can use multiple connections to downlaod the packages
[02:15] <Miii> pramod: yes but it also wrong it tells me 1h when it can finish in 40min
[02:17] <pramod> jucato can u help mii please....
[02:17] <pramod> ?
[02:18] <Jucato> pramod: ??
[02:18] <Sin_Citadel> Jucato: ?
[02:18] <Jucato> pramod: about?
[02:18] <pramod> Miii
[02:18] <Jucato> Sin_Citadel: yes?
[02:18] <Sin_Citadel> Jucato: hoe cn i configure apt-get
[02:19] <pramod> having the download tasks queued...
[02:19] <Sin_Citadel> pramod: wont work
[02:19] <Miii> i want to download a lot of stuff bu i want it to download 1by1 not all the same time.do u know how can i make it download 1by1?
[02:19] <pramod> and downloading them automatically one by one...
[02:19] <pramod> we got any configuration of that?
[02:19] <Jucato> pramod: I already told him how. but strangely it doesn't work for him
[02:20] <Jucato> where do you think he got the idea to use kget in the first place? :)
[02:20] <pramod> wat u told him?
[02:20] <Jucato> Limits tab, set it to 1
[02:20] <pramod> ah okie
[02:20] <pramod> for me too it does not work... lol
[02:20] <Jucato> Although I have set it to 2, and it works as advertised
[02:20] <Miii> Jucato: yes and because of that i didnt get everything i wanted.they was downloading all together
[02:20] <pramod> i already started the two downloads...
[02:21] <mooper> Hi I have these 2 stipy bands on my screens, seems like the opposite colour to whats on the screen. They are about 1 inch from the bottom. a joining the right edge of the screen. They do not appear in screen capture. any Ideas ?? on kubuntu feisty. ATI sapphire X1650 PRO dual head. the bands are about 30 pixels high and 200 pixels wide. Mouse runs over the glitch normally
[02:21] <se7enof9> somebody got compiz working on gutsy?
[02:21] <pramod> then changed the limits... and it kept downloading lol
[02:22] <Sin_Citadel> let me clarify, for e.g, i have to install 20 packages, apt-get install pk1 pk2 pk3 .... , when apt-get works, it download pk1, then pk2, and only then pk3, after that it installs it, is there a way i could configure my config file so that apt download at least 3 packages simultaneously, and not 1 by 1.
[02:22] <Sin_Citadel> can anyone help?
[02:22] <pramod> wat is compiz???? i think i have wored with it before without knowing wat it is lol
[02:22] <Jucato> Sin_Citadel: I'm not exactly sure where that option would be
[02:22] <Jucato> !compiz | pramod
[02:22] <ubotu> pramod: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:22] <Jucato> pramod: compiz and beryl have re-merged (n a way)
[02:23] <Sin_Citadel> in the apt config file, 70debconf
[02:23] <xp_killer> B
[02:23] <xp_killer> Y
[02:23] <xp_killer> E
[02:23] <pramod> ah okie...
[02:23] <Sin_Citadel> i am not a network specialist, so i couldnt make heads or tails about queue-mode, and host|access etc
[02:23] <Jucato> Sin_Citadel: /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ that file is there
[02:23] <Sin_Citadel> yea
[02:23] <Jucato> I don't know the exact option though
[02:23] <se7enof9> my windows manager keeps crashing with compiz any one the same problem
[02:24] <Sin_Citadel> can u please check it
[02:24] <Jucato> hail the borg!
[02:24] <Jucato> Sin_Citadel: check what? the option isn't there
[02:24] <se7enof9> :)
[02:24] <Jucato> and like I said, I don't know where the option would be set
[02:24] <Sin_Citadel> all right
[02:24] <Jucato> se7enof9: try asking in #ubuntu-effects
[02:24] <Sin_Citadel> thanks anyways
[02:24] <Jucato> lots of crazy people there
[02:24] <Jucato> er.. I meant compiz users
[02:25] <HiGenix> Greetings guys, Fairly new to linux, how do I make a program (Yakuake) start when I log in?
[02:26] <Lanken> HiGenix: konqueror > go > autostart
[02:26] <pramod> okay friend... c ya all...
[02:26] <pramod> will come back with more queries...
[02:26] <pramod> frankly Kubuntu Rocks...
[02:26] <pramod> ;)
[02:26] <Lanken> HiGenix: drag a shortcut to the application from the start menu to the ~/.kde/autostart/ directory
[02:27] <HiGenix> Lanken: Thanks. :)
[02:27] <Sin_Citadel> Lanken: can soft-links work?
[02:27] <Lanken> does anyone know anything about using kubuntu from behind an http proxy?
[02:27] <Sin_Citadel> Lanken: yes, i do
[02:27] <Lanken> Sin_Citadel: yeah, I think so...not sure which is better though.
[02:27] <Lanken> Sin_Citadel: I am behind an http proxy that requires authentication
[02:28] <Lanken> Sin_Citadel: I gave it the url and port number, but it's not prompting me to authenticate
[02:28] <Sin_Citadel> Sin_Citadel: goto system settings > network settings > proxy
[02:28] <Sin_Citadel> u can check the options there
[02:28] <Lanken> Sin_Citadel: yeah, did that.
[02:28] <Sin_Citadel> u have ntlm?
[02:28] <Lanken> not sure
[02:29] <Lanken> what's that?
[02:29] <Sin_Citadel> its a proxy auth scheme, there are basic, digest , and ntlm
[02:29] <Lanken> oh...so it's an attribute of the proxy server program?
[02:29] <Sin_Citadel> anywho
[02:29] <Lanken> I'm not sure which it's using
[02:29] <Sin_Citadel> can u get konqueror to work?
[02:30] <sito> helloW!
[02:30] <Lanken> Sin_Citadel: yes
[02:30] <snellpojke> i get an error when i try to start ubuntu or install ubuntu then it say reboot
[02:30] <sito> where is the file: /etc/inittab in kubuntu?
[02:31] <snellpojke> it work fine on my laptop
[02:31] <Sin_Citadel> Lanken: so , u can use konqueror to use internet ehindthe proxy , right?
[02:31] <Lanken> Sin_Citadel: apparently so...although I don't recall giving it my password...
[02:31] <Lanken> Sin_Citadel: anyway, konversation doesn't seem to be aware of the http proxy
[02:32] <Sin_Citadel> u must have, konqueror  must've saved it the first time u accessed the internet
[02:32] <Lanken> Sin_Citadel: also kopete...
[02:32] <Sin_Citadel> Lanken: nothing will work
[02:32] <Sin_Citadel> Lanken: do u have a socks proxy set up on ur server?
[02:32] <Lanken> it's not mine, it's a university
[02:32] <Lanken> (actually a boarding school in Shanghai)
[02:32] <Sin_Citadel> Lanken: do they have socks set up?
[02:32] <Sin_Citadel> Lanken: port 1080
[02:32] <Lanken> I don't know.
[02:33] <Lanken> (the http server is strangly on port 3128, by the way)
[02:33] <Sin_Citadel> well, u can make konversation/kopete/any app. work with socks, but http doesnt work on most apps.
[02:33] <Lanken> aha.
[02:33] <Sin_Citadel> Lanken: i recommend u use pidgin
[02:34] <Lanken> maybe I'll be stuck with the gnome equivalents.
[02:34] <Lanken> yeha...
[02:34] <Lanken> erm "yeah"
[02:34] <Sin_Citadel> Lanken: for chattings, it has options for http proxy and password auths
[02:34] <Lanken> Sin_Citadel: yep, that's what I used on windows.  xchat supports http proxies too.
[02:35] <Sin_Citadel> yeah, u can use that, since many apps on kubuntu doesnt have proxy options
[02:35] <Lanken> "kubuntu" heh...I'm used to thinking of it as kde
[02:51] <JuJuBee_> !ati
[02:51] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:53] <Squidy> err.. my audio device doesn't work after upgrade to gutsy :(
[02:53] <stdin> Squidy: gutsy help in #ubuntu+1
[02:54] <Squidy> stdin: ok.. thx
[02:54] <naught101> more stupid questions: once a deb-src package is installed (ie. kmilo), how do I find out where the files are stored?
[02:54] <usuario> hola
[02:54] <stdin> naught101: when you "apt-get source" a package, it's placed in the directory you ran it from
[02:54] <usuario> spanish???
[02:54] <stdin> !es | usuario
[02:54] <ubotu> usuario: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:55] <naught101> oh, bugger.
[02:55] <naught101> stdin: is it possible to undo that, or do I just have to delete it manually?
[02:56] <stdin> naught101: you have to delete it manually, the directory, orig.tar.gz, .dsc and .diff.gz
[02:56] <naught101> ahh! that's cool... I thought for a minute there it had just downloaded and extracted it all to my home directory :)
[02:59] <dthacker> Hi, I'm preparing a handout on Windows equivalents for a Gutsy release party.  What would you say Krita is equivalent to?  Probably not full blown photoshop?
[02:59] <Jucato> there's no exact equivalent imho
[03:00] <Jucato> Krita does some stuff that photoshop can't, and can't do stuff that photoshop can. it's not a photoshop clone, that's for sure
[03:00] <stdin> more like those little apps you get on a CD when you buy a digital camera
[03:00] <Jucato> Krita is probably closer to Corel Pain than Photoshop
[03:00] <dthacker> that might work....
[03:01] <dthacker> thank you
[03:01] <Jucato> but why focus on app X being an equivalent of app Y? why not focus on the amazing features of app X from the start? :)
[03:01] <stdin> !comprehensive
[03:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about comprehensive - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:01] <stdin> opps
[03:01] <stdin> !equivalents
[03:01] <ubotu> A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[03:02] <dthacker> stdin. thanks.  I was looking here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsApplicationsEquivalents but it's gnome-centric
[03:03] <naught101> mmmm.... I like this deb-src thinngy
[03:03] <Jucato> instead of saying "KWord is like MS Word", say "KWord is a frame-based word processor that lets you produce beautiful documents and layouts. It also supports an ISO standard document format"
[03:03] <stdin> I *may* rewrite that page too, but not right now
[03:04] <Jucato> s/*may*/*will*/
[03:04] <genii> Jucato: Yeah, once you start telling ppl "This program is like Word" or so, then they get frustrated when it won't save as .doc by default, or similar
[03:05] <Jucato> and they start thinking of that app as MS Word...
[03:05] <Jucato> they try to use it as MS Word
[03:05] <genii> Yup
[03:05] <stdin> s/*will*/should get Jucato to/ ;)
[03:05] <Jucato> and hate it like MS Word
[03:05] <Jucato> heh
[03:06] <stdin> or find someone who actually likes rewriting wiki entries
[03:06] <HiGenix> Hey guys, noob question, in the shell, how do you make cp include directories? I keep getting the message "cp: omittiing directory 'directoryname'.
[03:06] <Chousuke> cp -r
[03:06] <HiGenix> Ok, thanks. :)
[03:06] <Chousuke> (recursive)
[03:06] <stdin> !man
[03:06] <genii> HiGenix: If you need to keep permissions intact use also -p
[03:07] <ubotu> The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[03:07] <HiGenix> Oooh, should have tried there first. Sorry, didn't know it existed. Thanks for the help. :)
[03:08] <Jucato> HiGenix: there's man:/ in Konqueror to make it fancier too
[03:08] <Jucato> man:/cp for example
[03:08] <genii> stdin: sometimes i wonder if there is a way to make man <command>   run instead of <command> the very first time they use it
[03:08] <stdin> Jucato: hmm, maybe someone should add that info to !man ?
[03:08] <stdin> Jucato: or man-#kubuntu
[03:09] <genii> Jucato: I sense stdin is trying to recruit
[03:09] <genii> ;)
[03:09] <W8TAH> when downloading new wallpapers for kubuntu -- where does one stash them to do it properly?
[03:10] <Jucato> !man | stdin
[03:10] <ubotu> stdin: The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or type man:/ in Konqueror's location bar. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[03:10] <stdin> :)
[03:11] <genii> Jucato: Now when are you going to fix that wiki? LOL
[03:11] <Jucato> never :)
[03:12] <pramod> how can we mount virtual drives on kubuntu?
[03:12] <stdin> you can always try it genii ;)
[03:12] <stdin> pramod: virtual drives? you mean like ISOs?
[03:12] <tzanger> heh I've got an interesting problem
[03:12] <pramod> yeah
[03:12] <stdin> !iso | pramod
[03:12] <ubotu> pramod: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[03:12] <tzanger> fglrx driver...  dualscreen set up, openoffice crashes on screen 1 but not on screen 0
[03:13] <tzanger> also, my menu hotkeys (I define alt-` to bring up a konsole shell, for example) work on screen 1 but not on screen 0
[03:13] <stdin> genii: I've already tackled the nvidia and ati pages, I'm worn out :p
[03:14] <tzanger> I've got the ear of the "next generation" of ATI driver developers, and I'd like to help the community by acting as a point-man between xorg and ati
[03:14] <pramod> wat does <mountpoint> mean?
[03:15] <Jucato> stdin: wait for my next spurge of writing-mania...
[03:15] <stdin> pramod: where you want to mount it
[03:15] <pramod> ah okie...
[03:15] <pramod> thanx....
[03:15] <genii> stdin: The "WhatWindowsUsersWant" page?
[03:16] <stdin> genii: I was thinking of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsApplicationsEquivalents  (as it really only lists gnome apps)
[03:16] <Lynoure> genii: an OS that "everyone else" uses too
[03:17] <Lynoure> genii: (this based on an overheard conversation between a geeky bookstore clerk and less geeky one, about using Mac)
[03:17] <stdin> genii: but any page that needs some KDE love :)
[03:17] <dthacker> I'm willing to add KDE equivs to that page if it's ok with doc folks
[03:17] <genii> Hmm
[03:18] <dthacker> I'll ask them.  Don't want to get too OT in here
[03:18] <stdin> dthacker: go for it if you want, it is a wiki after all :)
[03:18] <genii> stdin: I'll tinker with it some later today
[03:18] <dthacker> better to ask forgiveness than permission :)
[03:19] <Jucato> dthacker: it's a wiki...
[03:20] <dthacker> ok'
[03:20] <Jucato> anyone who has an account can edit it
[03:20] <Jucato> and don't worry, once you do, it sends an e-mail to the authorities telling what you did. so they will know regardless :)
[03:22] <ozehka> hey, somehow my locale settings in kde (english) do not match with the output of "locale" in terminal (de-DE)
[03:25] <genii> stdin: Is ubuntuforums login also good for launchpad? i forget if i even have a launchpad account
[03:26] <stdin> don't think so
[03:26] <genii> Ok
[03:26] <ozehka> any help?
[03:28] <stdin> ozehka: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales" maybe
[03:29] <genii> Heh, i had an account and didn't remember LOL.
[03:30] <Jucato> genii: nope
[03:30] <ozehka> stdin: they still don't match
[03:33] <stdin> ozehka: maybe "sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup" you'll have to logout and back in after
[03:33] <ozehka> okay
[03:34] <maruco> hi guys I need some serious help
[03:34] <maruco> I don't kjnow how it happened
[03:34] <maruco> but my Kubuntu become crap
[03:34] <maruco> I cannot log on except for the recovery session
[03:34] <maruco> and I need to give startx to have a graphical interface
[03:35] <maruco> otherwise I cannot use anthing
[03:35] <maruco> uf I enter normally I receive a error message that telles me to check the installation
[03:35] <maruco> I tried reinstallig kde
[03:35] <maruco> but I now I got the 3.5 version
[03:35] <maruco> I would like to upgrade to kubuntu 7.10 and see how it works
[03:35] <maruco> so, please tell me
[03:36] <maruco> should I only change feisty into Gutsy"?
[03:37] <maruco> ...
[03:37] <maruco> can anybody help me?
[03:38] <hasan> how can i chop two times ?
[03:38] <hasan> perl -wle 'print chop($a=<>)'
[03:38] <ozehka> stdin: hmm, maybe you can tell me, where are these settings saved?
[03:40] <stdin> ozehka: I think the main setting is in /etc/environment
[03:40] <hydrogen> hasan: #perl
[03:41] <ozehka> stdin: hmm, doesn't contain the LC_*** stuff
[03:41] <ozehka> PATH and LANG only
[03:41] <stdin> LANG is the main one afaik
[03:41] <stdin> that an LC_ALL
[03:42] <bazhang> maruco: you want to install gutsy beta?
[03:42] <maruco> yeah
[03:42] <bazhang> maruco: upgrade or fresh install?
[03:42] <maruco> well
[03:42] <ozehka> stdin: i somehow believe that there are settings for the KDE and for the bash
[03:43] <maruco> I downloaded the CD and it doesen't work: I just get a blue debian wallpaper with the mouse icon moving
[03:43] <maruco> so I would like to upgrade
[03:43] <bazhang> maruco: I personally feel that Gutsy is way more stable than Feisty, and it's only beta.
[03:43] <maruco> ok
[03:43] <maruco> can u help me to upgrade
[03:43] <hydrogen> #ubuntu+1
[03:44] <hydrogen> read the topic
[03:44] <bazhang> maruco: some other users have been just upgrading from Feisty, starting with Tribe 1 (alpha).
[03:44] <maruco> should I just change "feisty" into "gutsy" in the repositories?
[03:44] <bazhang> maruco: if you want to go over to #ubuntu +1, then I can help you; sorry hydrogen!
[03:45] <bazhang> maruco: just choose 'join channel' in Konversation, then enter the channel name #ubuntu +1
[03:45] <bazhang> maruco: oops sorry, that's #ubuntu+1 (no space).
[03:46] <maruco> I entered it
[03:57] <Mr_Sonoma> !grub errors
[03:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grub errors - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:58] <stdin> !grub
[03:58] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:58] <Mr_Sonoma> what's grub error 13 mean??
[03:59] <stdin> try looking at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=282545
[04:02] <Mr_Sonoma> ok thanks
[04:14] <khatahn> is it a known problem that when running firefox under kubuntu sometimes the page contents doesn't change (for example after clicking a link) until you resize the firefox window?
[04:15] <stdin> no
[04:15] <ozehka> khatahn: I used to have that problem recently too
[04:15] <khatahn> i've had the problem on multiple machines since Kubuntu Dapper or something
[04:15] <khatahn> and i've always made a clean install when new kubuntu has come out
[04:16] <stdin> have you at least reported this on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu ?
[04:17] <Ingeniero_35> Hola Amigos soy nuevos por estos lados
[04:17] <vmlinuz`> Hey, how to change to "double click" instead of "single click"
[04:17] <stdin> !es | Ingeniero_35
[04:17] <ubotu> Ingeniero_35: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:17] <stdin> vmlinuz`: system settings > keyboard & mouse > mouse
[04:18] <Jucato> stdin: what a coincidence.. someone asked the same question in the other room :)
[04:18] <vmlinuz`> stdin: there is no "keyboerd & mouse" in settings
[04:18] <stdin> heh, so I see
[04:19] <stdin> vmlinuz`: how about just mouse?
[04:19] <Jucato> System Settings
[04:19] <khatahn> stdin: i think i've seen it mentioned on the forums sometimes, but no, i haven't really reported it there. it's hard to explain and even harder to reproduce (sometimes it happens all the time, sometimes everything is fine for a long time) so i'm not sure the report would help much
[04:19] <vmlinuz`> stdin: neg
[04:19] <Jucato> vmlinuz`: are you sure you're looking in the System Settings application?
[04:19] <stdin> vmlinuz`: what version of kubuntu do you have?
[04:20] <vmlinuz`> stdin: hm, I have ubuntu installed, then i got kde installed.
[04:20] <vmlinuz`> Jucato: yea i'm sure.
[04:20] <stdin> khatahn: it's still best to report it
[04:20] <Jucato> vmlinuz`: ah. Control Center -> Peripherals -> Mouse
[04:20] <stdin> vmlinuz`: did you at least install "kubuntu-desktop" and not "kde" ?
[04:20] <vmlinuz`> Jucato: I don't have "peripherals"
[04:20] <vmlinuz`> stdin: I did "kubuntu-desktop"
[04:21] <Jucato> when all else fails.. "kcmshell mouse" :)
[04:21] <Jucato> in Konsole or Alt+F2 :D
[04:21] <stdin> so what version of ubuntu do you have?
[04:21] <Jucato> take it away stdin :)
[04:22] <DaSkreech> stdin: Sorry what's the issue?
[04:22] <stdin> Jucato: by "work" I guess you mean "have a chat in the \"other\" channel" ;)
[04:22] <Jucato> no. as in work
[04:23] <vmlinuz`> hm I remember a command to run the configuration. to choose MAc mode, KDE mode, or windows mode. and then chose how it should look like.. anybody remember the command?
[04:23] <stdin> DaSkreech: huh? I have no issue
[04:23] <DaSkreech> With the mouse and keyboard?
[04:24] <stdin> ooh, vmlinuz` doesn't have a mouse or "keyboard & mouse" section in system settings
[04:24] <vmlinuz`> stdin: yea I don't.
[04:24] <vmlinuz`> stdin: please tell me the command, to re-configure. you know the configuration that pops up when you first run KDE
[04:24] <stdin> vmlinuz`: you mean kpersonalizer ?
[04:25] <vmlinuz`> yep thanks
[04:25] <DaSkreech> Does anyone?
[04:26] <stdin> does anyone what? have that section?
[04:27] <DaSkreech> oh hey I do have that
[04:27] <DaSkreech> when did that get there?
[04:27] <DaSkreech> I used to have just a mouse and keyboard was under language I think
[04:27] <stdin> feisty and up iirc
[04:39] <hnet> holaaaa
[04:40] <stdin> !es
[04:40] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:41] <Roey> hi
[04:41] <Roey> I opened a file in JED and I see all these lines starting with ^I.  How do I automatically convert these to tabs?
[04:41] <savetheWorld> Roey: those ARe tabs.
[04:42] <savetheWorld> ^i means control-i, which is asci value 8, or "TAB"
[04:42] <Roey> savetheWorld:  yeah I know
[04:42] <Roey> savetheWorld:  but why do they show as ^I's in jed
[04:42] <savetheWorld> must besomething to do with JED, perhaps an option ora configuration issue?
[04:42] <savetheWorld> anyway %ed: To become an advanced *NIX user, use the vi/vim or emacs editors, they teach things useful in the shell, awk, sed, perl, and other shell tools that speed your way up the learning curve and they are more widely avaiable. See http://tinyurl.com/82j4s
[04:42] <Roey> hmm, alright
[04:43] <Roey> savetheWorld:  er ok.  I hate vi personally.  I'm an emacs keybindings nut ;)
[04:43] <savetheWorld> avoid JEd, JOE, Kate nano etc.
[04:43] <savetheWorld> emacs is a fine choice
[04:43] <bazhang> haha
[04:44] <Roey> oh, right, I could use kate.
[04:44] <savetheWorld> bazhang: please note that advice is only for people who want to become advanced *NIX users.  regular desktop users who want to just use their computer for their normal non-techie jobs should just use whatever editor they want.
[04:45] <Roey> savetheWorld:  emacs is a bloated pig imo
[04:45] <Roey> that's why I use jed
[04:45] <Roey> I just really care for them keybindings
[04:45] <Lanken> the ntfs partition on my external hard drive isn't mounting.
[04:45] <Lanken> dolphin says hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[04:46] <stdin> gutsy help in #ubuntu+1
[04:46] <savetheWorld> emacs is much more than an editor.  its so powerful it can be used as an integrated IDE, and mail system and web server al at the same time. as for size. - hmm - its not very big.
[04:46] <stdin> and you don't have to use vi/emacs to be an "advanced *NIX user"
[04:47] <bazhang> savetheWorld: sorry!
[04:47] <savetheWorld> stdin: yo uan I will definitely have to disagreeabout that one. or perhaps our definitions of advanced are different. :-) (I suspect they are)
[04:47] <savetheWorld> *you and
[04:48] <vmlinuz`> how to change character language in browser? I have arabic installed, but with no SCRIM. how can i change from english to arabic. Alt+shift doesn't seem to work
[04:48] <stdin> how can the tool you use reflect you knowledge level, that doesn't make sense to me
[04:49] <critter> can someone help me get dual monitors working?  I read the stuff from ! ati and have it kind of working, but the left side of my monitor ( about 1 inch) is not showing on the overhead projector.
[04:49] <stdin> if I don't use vim does it mean I don't know about sed, awk, perl or other shell tools?
[04:49] <stdin> !dualhead | critter
[04:49] <ubotu> critter: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[04:50] <DaSkreech> !emacs
[04:50] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[04:50] <savetheWorld> stdin: hmm, I see. well the fact that you think that is part of your problem. Here is an exercise to help you: compare the differences in knowledge required to use assembly language versus BASIC
[04:51] <stdin> savetheWorld: doesn't matter, an editor does not a power user make
[04:51] <phoenixz> Hi there! How can I disable all beeps comming from a terminal?
[04:52] <stdin> phoenixz: in Konsole, Settings > Bell > None
[04:52] <DaSkreech> Beep!
[04:52] <savetheWorld> stdin: You may need to expand your view of what an editor can do. In fact you definitely need to be less narrow minded.
[04:52] <JuJuBee_> Sorry, kopete crashed on me... I was asking about why the left side of my screen wont show (about 1 inch) on the projector.  ATI dual head...
[04:53] <JuJuBee_> I did not get the reply.
[04:53] <savetheWorld> phoenixz: what application/shell are  you using when you get the beeps?
[04:53] <stdin> savetheWorld: that's not my point, it's not about any particular tool
[04:54] <JuJuBee_> I read the info provide by ! ati and got my monitor showing on the projector.
[04:54] <DaSkreech> stderr :)
[04:54] <Dalton> Hi all, I am just starting with kubuntu, so I do not know all the ways that this particular distribution does things.   Could someone tell me the proper way to allow a user to mount drives (such as usb drives) via the mount command?  mount responds that only root can do that and I do not want to have to sudo every time I mount/unmount media.
[04:54] <stdin> !dualhead | JuJuBee_, seen this?
[04:54] <ubotu> JuJuBee_, seen this?: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[04:55] <savetheWorld> stdin: I'll give you one more chance to break your mind free.  Why are some tools morelimiting than others? Give specific contrasting examples and explain why one is more limiting or not.
[04:55] <DaSkreech> Dalton: add users to the mount point you want as an option
[04:55] <DaSkreech> savetheWorld: What?
[04:55] <fabio> goodevening
[04:55] <savetheWorld> DaSkreech: see the scrollback
[04:55] <DaSkreech> savetheWorld: He was saying that you can be a very high end power user and prefer a simpler tool just as a matter of choice
[04:55] <fabio> is possible to use open source driver on a ati x1600?
[04:56] <Dalton> Hey DaSkreech, please give more details
[04:56] <fabio> or i must use fglrx driver (so only Xgl) ?
[04:56] <DaSkreech> savetheWorld: not using emacs/vim/kdevelop makes you no less knowledgeable
[04:56] <stdin> savetheWorld: like I said, it's not about a particular tool. just because you don't use a certain tool doesn't mean you can't be an advanced user
[04:56] <JuJuBee_> No, I have not, but doesnt ubuntu use x11 not xfree86?
[04:56] <pippo> hi all, I have the last kubuntu. Firstly I've installe some packages from adept installer, but now it says me :"Another processi is using the packaging system database..... please close the application", but I can't find... I tryed to reboot, but nothing
[04:56] <DaSkreech> fabio: Yes.
[04:56] <DaSkreech> fabio: you will have no accelration
[04:57] <stdin> JuJuBee_: they are similar enough to make the information relevant
[04:57] <Surger> Is there any place where I can find a live version of Kubuntu Fesity online? Sort of like a virtual machine running Kubuntu on a web page?
[04:57] <savetheWorld> stdin, um - OK, that, of course has nothing to do with how fast a tool helps you climb the learning curve.   Perhaps you meant to talk to someone else.
[04:57] <stdin> !aptfix | pippo
[04:57] <ubotu> pippo: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[04:57] <fabio> DaSkreech: so, i can install open source driver, use it, install aiglx and beryl?
[04:57] <pippo> thanks
[04:58] <DaSkreech> Dalton: if you look at the mount points in /etc/fstab you have an options section add the word users to the mount point you wnat users to be able to mount
[04:58] <stdin> savetheWorld: no, I meant that for you. you said that you have to use vi to be an advanced *NIX user, that's just not right
[04:58] <savetheWorld> stdin: please dont lie.
[04:58] <DaSkreech> fabio: Sure. they won't work
[04:58] <stdin> excuse me ?
[04:58] <Jucato> !offtopic
[04:58] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[04:58] <DaSkreech> but you can do that
[04:58] <savetheWorld> stdin: go read the original statement again.
[04:58] <savetheWorld> %ed: To become an advanced *NIX user, use the vi/vim or emacs editors, they teach things useful in the shell, awk, sed, perl, and other shell tools that speed your way up the learning curve and they are more widely avaiable. See http://tinyurl.com/82j4s
[04:59] <dobo> am i supposed to run apache with sudo??! that seems risky, but it's denied access to files it needs otherwise!
[04:59] <savetheWorld> no where in there does it say "have to"
[04:59] <pippo> thanks so muck stdin
[04:59] <pippo> stdin: I've solved, thanks
[05:00] <savetheWorld> stdin i see that you are part of that class of people who like to make up things and then claim that other people have said them.  Thats very troll like.
[05:00] <DaSkreech> savetheWorld: calm down
[05:00] <savetheWorld> stdin: you can retract or apologize now, thanks.
[05:00] <JuJuBee_> stdin : i have cloning working, but part of my desktop is not appearing on the projector screen.  My config looks very similar to the one described in the link with the exception of the xinerama stuff
[05:00] <DaSkreech> savetheWorld: a) this is offtopic
[05:00] <DaSkreech> savetheWorld: b) let it go
[05:00] <BluesKaj> howdy all :)
[05:00] <stdin> savetheWorld: if you want to continue the conversation, join me in #kubuntu-offtopic
[05:00] <savetheWorld> DaSkreech: I'm perfectly calm.
[05:00] <DaSkreech> savetheWorld: a misunderstanding is just that
[05:01] <savetheWorld> stdin: You go ahead, just next time PLEASE try to READ and UNDERSTAND what you are talking about
[05:01] <savetheWorld> DaSkreech: it would be if this were the first time he had made it.
[05:01] <stdin> also, personal attacks, that's troll like behaviour. now I'll end the conversation
[05:01] <Dalton> Hey DaSkreech, that's what I thought you ment.  Unfortunately, I had already tried that.  The user has the rights to the directory but once they mount the drive, the directory becomes owned by root:root - thus the user can mount the drive, but not use it.....
[05:02] <bazhang> BluesKaj: howdy!
[05:02] <BluesKaj> hi bazhang
[05:03] <savetheWorld> stdin: its not a personal attack to ask someone to not lie, and its not a personal attack to ask someone to address that actual point being made.
[05:04] <stdin> I've already ended the conversation, there will be no more responses (unless you join #kubuntu-offtopic )
[05:05] <savetheWorld> stdin: go ahead without me. I've made my points.
[05:05] <dobo> :( can anyone help me with apache2!
[05:06] <Dalton> DaSkreech, did you see my last query?
[05:07] <tarek__> hi i want to install my nvidia graphic card how can i do that
[05:07] <stdin> !nvidia
[05:07] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:08] <BluesKaj> bazhang, Taipei eh , I recognized the IP address cuz my son taught english there for 9yrs :)
[05:08] <tarek__> k thanks
[05:08] <JuJuBee_> Anybody provide some assistance with my ati video issue (left inch or so not showing up on projector screen)/
[05:09] <bazhang> BluesKaj: yup! Cheers!
[05:12] <BluesKaj> uhm JuJuBee , could it be a function of your projector not showing the whole input signal
[05:14] <phoenixz> stdin, savetheWorld, Im using Yakuake, which is really nice, but there is no option to make it shut up
[05:15] <phoenixz> Yakuake is a terminal emulator that you can hide and unhide with F12.. really nice and all it only lacks some configuration
[05:15] <stdin> phoenixz: hmm, strange. yakuake makes no sound for me
[05:15] <phoenixz> specially bell thing is annoying as hell
[05:15] <phoenixz> stdin, using tab auto completion for example
[05:15] <phoenixz> nnggghh
[05:16] <stdin> phoenixz: yeah, I get no sound at all, maybe someone in #yakuake knows more about it
[05:16] <phoenixz> stdin, it has its own channel? cool.. :)
[05:17] <JuJuBee_> What is the bot comand for fixing screen resolution?
[05:17] <stdin> !resolution
[05:17] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:17] <JuJuBee_> Thanks
[05:17] <Jucato> phoenixz: yakuake uses the same style of settings as konsole
[05:17] <Jucato> phoenixz: you can even use the same settings that konsole uses
[05:25] <savetheWorld> phoenixz: sorry, was afk.  i'm not familiar with Yakuake.  What is it?
[05:25] <xenol> whats yakuake?
[05:26] <Jucato> xenol: it's a Quake-like Konsole
[05:26] <DaSkreech> !ykuake
[05:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ykuake - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:26] <DaSkreech> !yakuake
[05:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yakuake - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:26] <DaSkreech> !info yakuake
[05:26] <Jucato> it's constantly running in the background and drops down from the screen with a hotkey
[05:26] <ubotu> yakuake: a Quake-style terminal emulator based on KDE Konsole technology. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.5-4ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 73 kB, installed size 512 kB
[05:27] <xenol> thx.
[05:27] <genii> Just FYI yakuake is no longer being supported by it's developer. The home page was last updated sometime in mid 2005
[05:28] <Jucato> genii: are you sure?
[05:28] <genii> Jucato: Yes
[05:28] <Jucato> genii: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Yakuake?content=29153
[05:28] <DaSkreech> genii: Funny new one just shipped
[05:28] <Jucato> he just released 2.8 the other day :)
[05:29] <Jucato> genii: did you confuse "Submitted" with "Updated"? :)
[05:29] <genii> Maybe someone else has now taken it over. I'll try to find the page i mean
[05:31] <genii> http://yakuake.uv.ro/
[05:32] <DaSkreech> genii: Isn't open source great :)
[05:32] <Jucato> genii: the maintainer of Konversation has been in charge since 2006
[05:32] <RivaeAerya> does anybody know some good KDE apps that are not included by default that are very handy for everyday use? (such as yaquake, a note-taking program, bookmarks thing, konqueror extensions.. etc)
[05:32] <DaSkreech> Yakuake konversation basket kdissert pop to mind
[05:32] <bazhang> frozen bubble?
[05:32] <DaSkreech> Shhhh
[05:32] <genii> Jucato: Ah OK :)
[05:32] <DaSkreech> I'm trying to be productive
[05:33] <bazhang> haha
[05:33] <Jucato> DaSkreech: konvi is in by default though
[05:33] <bazhang> that's why you're here all the time...
[05:33] <DaSkreech> in KDE ?
[05:33] <RivaeAerya> DaSkreech: hmm any more?
[05:33] <bazhang> Is soundjuicer KDE?
[05:33] <Jucato> genii: btw, http://yakuake.kde.org (but barely any content yet)
[05:34] <DaSkreech> RivaeAerya: you can open adept and drag in a KDE debtag to see only KDE apps
[05:34] <camelia> kubuntu-es
[05:34] <DaSkreech> !es
[05:34] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:35] <RivaeAerya> DaSkreech: kde debtag? wha?
[05:35] <DaSkreech> RivaeAerya: You have adept open?
[05:36] <RivaeAerya> DaSkreech: yep
[05:36] <bazhang> what is the soundjuicer equivalent for KDE? K3b?
[05:36] <genii> The main thing is that someone is still working on it and supporting it.
[05:36] <DaSkreech> ok on the three tabs at the far right click on all
[05:37] <rediz_> join #ubuntu
[05:37] <emilsedgh> bazhang: what does soundjuicer do?
[05:37] <bazhang> emilsedgh: rips audio cds
[05:38] <stdin> k3b or just audiocd:/ from konqueror can do that
[05:38] <bazhang> stdin: thanks!
[05:38] <emilsedgh> stdin: audiocd io slave rocks!
[05:38] <DaSkreech> RivaeAerya: under the heading Suite drag the section KDE into tags you ant
[05:39] <Jucato> !ripping
[05:39] <ubotu> To rip an Audio CD in KDE, put it in and then put audiocd:// in the Konqueror URL bar; it's configurable in system settings. Also see http://tinyurl.com/2x7qsh
[05:39] <stdin> emilsedgh: yep :)
[05:39] <DaSkreech> now everything there is a KDE app
[05:39] <RivaeAerya> DaSkreech: only says emacs, no kde
[05:39] <bazhang> can anyone call ubotu?
[05:39] <stdin> yeah
[05:39] <bazhang> thanks!
[05:39] <DaSkreech> RivaeAerya: under the tab All?
[05:40] <DaSkreech> Smart|Simple|All
[05:41] <RivaeAerya> DaSkreech: yeah, looked there. Under suite, no kde
[05:42] <DaSkreech> That's Funky :)
[05:42] <DaSkreech> Do you have UI toolkit?
[05:42] <RivaeAerya> DaSkreech: yep
[05:42] <DaSkreech> Does it have qt ?
[05:42] <RivaeAerya> yes
[05:42] <DaSkreech> Ok drag that over
[05:43] <DaSkreech> That should give you a close approximation
[05:43] <DaSkreech> Hmm I wonder where the KDE tag is hiding
[05:45] <Jucato> DaSkreech: perhaps there aren't any
[05:46] <Jucato> oh wait found it
[05:46] <DaSkreech> I've almost always had them
[05:46] <DaSkreech> What is it under?
[05:46] <Jucato> DaSkreech: : All -> [suite]  Application Suite
[05:46] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[05:46] <DaSkreech> RivaeAerya: You have emacs under suite ?
[05:46] <dobo> i'm hosting my own perl scripts, and when i try to view/run them in firefox, it tries to get me to download them instead!
[05:46] <RivaeAerya> DaSkreech: yep
[05:47] <dobo> does anyone have suggestions?? i'm using apache2 :(
[05:47] <DaSkreech> dobo: You don't have the filetype setup properly in apache I'd guess
[05:47] <DaSkreech> dobo: you can ask in #apache
[05:47] <dobo> thanks!
[05:47] <DaSkreech> RivaeAerya: and that has one entry?
[05:47] <RivaeAerya> DaSkreech: emacs is the entry under suite
[05:47] <DaSkreech> RivaeAerya: the only one?
[05:48] <RivaeAerya> DaSkreech: yep
[05:48] <Dr_willis> 'there can be only one!' :)
[05:48] <DaSkreech> RivaeAerya: under the all tab?
[05:48] <RivaeAerya> DaSkreech: yep
[05:50] <DaSkreech> RivaeAerya: I dunno man that makes no sense
[05:53] <pippo> hi all, I have a problem, firstly I used ubuntu, but now in kubuntu my wireless can't find the router
[05:53] <pippo> with ubuntu I connected my router
[05:53] <pippo> but in kubuntu is impossible
[05:54] <DaSkreech> I don't think it's impossible
[05:54] <DaSkreech>  does it have any security on it?
[05:54] <pippo> I think not
[05:54] <pippo> if I boot with ubuntu live cd my wireless is present
[05:54] <pippo> in kubuntu not
[05:55] <pippo> hardware is ok
[05:55] <DaSkreech> pippo: when you right clikc on the network manager do you see a list of wireless networks?
[05:55] <pippo> it says wireless networks not found
[05:55] <pippo> in ubuntu instead I can find my netword
[05:55] <pippo> network
[05:55] <DaSkreech> *blinks(
[05:55] <pippo> is it strange?
[05:55] <DaSkreech> can you open a konsole and type sudo iwlist scan
[05:56] <pippo> it say interface don't support scanning
[05:56] <pippo> no sorry
[05:56] <pippo> eht1
[05:56] <pippo> no found
[05:56] <pippo> result
[05:57] <pippo> it is strange
[05:57] <pippo> in ubuntu I can
[05:57] <pippo> I have to reinstall kubuntu ?
[05:58] <pippo> hmmm
[05:59] <bazhang> pippo: maybe just stick with ubuntu for now? are you using Feisty?
[06:00] <pippo> I am using kubuntu, I don't know what is feisty
[06:00] <corneliu> hy
[06:00] <corneliu> who can help me in configuring an irda device ?
[06:00] <bazhang> hi
[06:00] <BluesKaj> feisty is the latest version of kubuntu/ubuntu
[06:01] <pippo> i have the latest version.. yes
[06:01] <bazhang> pippo: Feisty is release 7.04; next one (in twelve days) is Gutsy.
[06:01] <pippo> I have 7.04
[06:01] <pippo> I'll see
[06:01] <pippo> thanks for your help
[06:02] <bazhang> no problem!
[06:02] <corneliu> please
[06:02] <corneliu> some help with an irda :((
[06:03] <pippo> is it possible to reinstall knetworkmanager downloading the package?
[06:04] <bazhang> pippo: in my experience, knetworkmanager has been problematic under Feisty; under Gutsy I've had much better luck.
[06:05] <genii> Jucato: someone pointed the current maintainer to me LOL ...<eyeballs you suspiciously>
[06:05] <pippo> is gutsy the feature release of kubuntu?
[06:05] <Jucato> O.o
[06:05] <bazhang> pippo: future?
[06:05] <Jucato> genii: what did he say?
[06:05] <pippo> sorry for my bad english
[06:05] <pippo> the next release
[06:05] <bazhang> yes
[06:06] <Jucato> pippo: yes. it will be released on 18 October
[06:06] <bazhang> due in twelve days, beta version out now
[06:06] <pippo> ok I will wait for its
[06:06] <bazhang> but very stable now...
[06:06] <genii> Jucato: Basically letting me know not to get confused by the old website and plugging the new release
[06:06] <Jucato> hahah!
[06:06] <BluesKaj> <---running gutsy with no problems so far , pippo
[06:06] <pippo> thanls
[06:07] <pippo> thanks
[06:07] <Jucato> genii: so are you going to use it now? :D
[06:07] <DaSkreech> genii: Phear him!
[06:07] <bazhang> pippo: you should try it! It rocks.
[06:07] <genii> Jucato: i may go back to using it, yes
[06:07] <genii> DaSkreech: LOL
[06:08] <Jucato> genii: kool! :)
[06:08] <Jucato> and if you're using konversation too... kooler :)
[06:08] <DaSkreech> gen
[06:08] <DaSkreech> genii: The abilty to split stuff is brilliant
[06:08] <bazhang> haha
[06:08] <DaSkreech>  I can monitor thigns at work while doing other useful stuff or spodding
[06:09] <genii> The 2.8 release has been uploaded and will make it into Oct18 release, he is telling me now
[06:09] <Jucato> DaSkreech, genii and you can do instant split or quad views
[06:09] <bazhang> what's spodding?
[06:09] <DaSkreech> pippo: iwlist eth1 scan produces noting ?
[06:09] <DaSkreech> Jucato: quad views?
[06:10] <Jucato> DaSkreech: yes. like quadkonsole
[06:10] <pippo> it says no scan result
[06:10] <DaSkreech> How/
[06:10] <DaSkreech> pippo: that's very strange
[06:10] <Jucato> DaSkreech: hold down on the "new tab" button and a menu pops up
[06:10] <DaSkreech> there is a new tab button?
[06:10] <pippo> I know, with ubuntu no problem, I think there is a problem during installing
[06:10] <DaSkreech> hahahahahahahahahaha
[06:10] <Jucato> DaSkreech: yes
[06:11] <DaSkreech> I'm so filled with joy it's not funny :)
[06:11] <Jucato> with that option/button?
[06:11] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[06:12] <Jucato> :D
[06:12] <DaSkreech> apt-get remove quadkonsole --purge in process
[06:12] <DaSkreech> !wifi | pippo
[06:12] <ubotu> pippo: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:12] <pippo> thanks
[06:13] <DaSkreech> Can you tell me where that walkthrough fails for you
[06:13] <pippo> ok
[06:13] <Silveira_Neto> I installed kubuntu in my desktop computer. Now how I enable 3d efects in the desktop? Which package I have to install with adept?
[06:13] <bazhang> Silveira_Neto: compizconfig settings manager
[06:14] <stdin> !ubuntu-effects | Silveira_Neto
[06:14] <ubotu> Silveira_Neto: For help with 3d desktop effects applications or drivers please join #ubuntu-effects, someone there will be glad to help you. You can read http://forum.beryl-project.org/ for most common problems or questions.
[06:14] <Silveira_Neto> bazhangm,thanks.
[06:15] <bazhang> Silveira_Neto: sure.
[06:15] <Silveira_Neto> But, I can have the same fx in the KDE as the Gnome? When I use the ubuntu livecd, I can enable the 3d effects and use them in the moment
[06:16] <bazhang> Silveira_Neto: come on over to #ubuntu-effects
[06:19] <pippo> my hardware is intel prowireless 2200
[06:19] <pippo> now I try to update drivers
[06:19] <JuJuBee_> How do I find out my horizsync and vertrefresh for my laptop display?
[06:20] <zipper> the manual
[06:21] <bazhang> haha
[06:25] <DaSkreech> genii: http://fosswire.com/2007/10/02/yakuake-a-drop-down-terminal-for-kde/
[06:27] <genii> DaSkreech: Nice, thanks
[06:27] <DaSkreech> sure
[06:28] <JuJuBee_> zipper : that would be good if it was listed in there, but it is not listed.
[06:30] <Ace_NoOne> should I download Kubuntu 7.04 or 7.10? .10 is beta!?
[06:31] <bazhang> 7.10!
[06:31] <bazhang> it's beta!
[06:31] <DaSkreech> Ace_NoOne: 7.10 would be nice if you want to help out
[06:32] <Chousuke> Ace_NoOne: 7.10 will be released soon.
[06:32] <Chousuke> so it might be safe to get the beta.
[06:32] <DaSkreech> Ace_NoOne: If you have bandwidth to burn then 7.04 I guess
[06:32] <Ace_NoOne> DaSkreech: installing Kubuntu in a virtual machine to get familiar with Linux desktop use
[06:32] <bazhang> Get it now!  It's really stable Ace_NoOne
[06:32] <Ace_NoOne> LIES! ;P
[06:33] <DaSkreech> Ace_NoOne: I'm running it now. No bad crashes
[06:33] <DaSkreech> Ace_NoOne: Virtual machine I would heartily recommend 7.10
[06:34] <DaSkreech> Ace_NoOne: Welcome to Kubuntu :)
[06:35] <Ace_NoOne> DaSkreech: why does vm make a difference
[06:35] <Ace_NoOne> because it can't freeze me up?
[06:35] <DaSkreech> Ace_NoOne: No chance of it screwing you over
[06:35] <Ace_NoOne> okay then, 7.10 it is
[06:35] <DaSkreech> PLus you can just full screen the VM and pretend it's your box
[06:35] <Ace_NoOne> lol
[06:36] <poison--> !ati
[06:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:40] <Squidy> hey.. when i try to change my user photo in system settings i receive a message tha the administrator doesn't have permission to change the user image.. what happens?
[06:41] <poison--> !envy
[06:41] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[06:42] <wathek> hello all
[06:43] <DaSkreech> Squidy: did you click adminstrator mode?
[06:43] <wathek> I'm trying to install Kubuntu (I've downloaded the iso of the beta version yesterday) and it shows me downloading linguisitics packets (47:10) and nothing is happen
[06:44] <Squidy> DaSkreech: there isn't an administration mode button in that screen
[06:44] <DaSkreech> Squidy: in system settings?
[06:44] <wathek> it's in 87% what could I do ?
[06:45] <Squidy> DaSkreech: yes.. System Settings > Personal informations
[06:45] <DaSkreech> oh
[06:45] <Squidy> It just has Help | Default | Restart and Apply buttons
[06:45] <DaSkreech> Squidy: Ah
[06:46] <DaSkreech> Squidy: I changed that in Advanced -> Login Screen -> users
[06:46] <Dr_willis> Hmmm...  Apple updates 15" MacBook Pro battery firmware     --- batteries have Firmware?
[06:47] <Squidy> DaSkreech: humm.. it looks like better
[06:49] <DaSkreech> Squidy: Where would you use that in any case?
[06:49] <Squidy> DaSkreech: in kdm.. :)
[06:49] <RivaeAerya> where can i find a preview of the Oxygen QT4 style?
[06:49] <DaSkreech> Squidy: There you go then
[06:49] <DaSkreech> RivaeAerya: svn ? or #oxygen
[06:50] <excitatory> question.. i'm currently using fesity with compiz-fusion from the trev1no feisty repository.. i realize that gutsy will have all of the fusion packages in its repos.. so before i upgrade, should i just remove the repository entry.. or remove the repo entry *and* remove the packages (to make way for the gutsy versions)... OR doesn't it matter, since the package names are, i assume, the same and thus the higher version numbers of the
[06:50] <excitatory> packages will take priority and install over the trev1no packages?
[06:50] <Squidy> DaSkreech: thank you
[06:50] <DaSkreech> Sure
[06:50] <DaSkreech> excitatory: #ubuntu+1
[06:50] <excitatory> ok
[07:02] <Ace_NoOne> Is it still true that if I started out with Ubuntu, installing and switching to KDE can become messy?
[07:03] <DaSkreech> Ace_NoOne: Only the menu
[07:03] <Ace_NoOne> which menu
[07:04] <DaSkreech> Ace_NoOne: Apps menu
[07:04] <Ace_NoOne> ah of course
[07:05] <Ace_NoOne> now, suppose I install Kubuntu now, can I install KDE4 and easily switch back to 3.5?
[07:05] <bazhang> Ace_NoOne: kde 4 is unusable right now.
[07:05] <Ace_NoOne> bazhang: that's why I'm asking
[07:06] <Dr_willis> if its not useable.. why bother. :)
[07:06] <bazhang> exactly
[07:06] <DaSkreech> Ace_NoOne: Yes read the topic
[07:06] <Dr_willis> best way to test kde4 is with a kde4 live cd. heh
[07:06] <stdin> Ace_NoOne: it's installed separately, you have to explicitly start a kde4 session to use it (you can use the apps in a kde3 tho)
[07:06] <Ace_NoOne> Dr_willis: I meant beta-testing KDE4 in general
[07:06] <Ace_NoOne> oh cool
[07:06] <DaSkreech> Ace_NoOne: Sure
[07:07] <Ace_NoOne> thanks people
[07:07] <DaSkreech> Beta 3 is out in a week or so so you may want to get comfy in KDe3 and wait that out
[07:07] <Ace_NoOne> sure
[07:07] <stdin> Ace_NoOne: you can install the kde4 beta from gnome too, incase you were wondering
[07:07] <DaSkreech> shhhhh
[07:07] <Ace_NoOne> lol
[07:07] <DaSkreech> no gnome no gnome!
[07:08] <Ace_NoOne> the only gnomes I adore are the Underpants Gnomes
[07:08] <bazhang> ot coming...
[07:08] <DaSkreech> no gnome no gnome!!!!!
[07:08] <DaSkreech> :-D
[07:09] <bazhang> step 3: profit!
[07:09] <Ace_NoOne> glad we all share that bit of Common Ground ;)
[07:09] <DaSkreech> ha ha
[07:09] <Ace_NoOne> (otherwise I woulda looked like a weirdo)
[07:14] <WaltzingAlong> there are instructions on the kubuntu.org site for installing kde4 alongside kde3.5.x then running either
[07:14] <stdin> !topic | WaltzingAlong
[07:14] <ubotu> WaltzingAlong: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[07:15] <stdin> WaltzingAlong: I meant, it's in the topic too <
[07:16] <WaltzingAlong> exactly
[07:18] <Bi0HazzZarD> Boas brasileiros...
[07:19] <stdin> !br | Bi0HazzZarD
[07:19] <ubotu> Bi0HazzZarD: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[07:20] <bazhang> does Ubuntu have a topic for Chinese language?
[07:20] <stdin> !cn
[07:20] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[07:20] <mikkael> i manually installed a webcam driver, since that my system needs 10 minutes to boot, spits out a lot of error messages. how do i remove that damn thing ? at the moment i just blacklisted it
[07:20] <bazhang> stdin: thanks!
[07:21] <stdin> mikkael: "sudo make uninstall" from the source or (if that fails) delete the module. then run "sudo depmod -a"
[07:22] <mikkael> stdin: where do i find the module ?
[07:23] <donsdx> "/topic" = TOPIC Not enough parameters
[07:23] <stdin> mikkael: it should have the module name in the error messages, or if you know it's name use "slocate <filename>"
[07:23] <mikkael> yes i know its name, its sn9c102
[07:24] <stdin> mikkael: it should be a file called sn9c102.ko then
[07:24] <stdin> in /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/ somewhere
[07:25] <mikkael> whats the command to delete a fikle in terminal "rm <filename>" ?
[07:25] <genii> mikkael: Yes
[07:25] <RATTT> wats the sudo command to completely remove  a program
[07:26] <stdin> RATTT: sudo apt-get --purge remove <package>
[07:26] <genii> RATTT: if apt-get was used to install it, then stdin's suggestion
[07:26] <RATTT> thanx
[07:27] <mikkael> can someone briefly explain what the commands: make clean, make modules and modprobe do :> ?
[07:28] <Dr_willis> cleand the source dir.,compiles,  then loads a module
[07:29] <stdin> "make clean" cleans the source, it removes the compiled files in the source; make modules compiled the module(s), modprobe attempts to load a module into the running kernal
[07:29] <Dr_willis> 'make <option>' normally one of ,clean,all,install
[07:29] <mikkael> im so frustrated to not get my webcam to work
[07:30] <mikkael> !paste
[07:30] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:31] <mikkael> here is the textfile that comes with this driver: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39548/
[07:31] <mikkael> i just cant get it work :/
[07:38] <mikkael> well at least it's removed now properly, thanks for that stdin
[07:38] <mikkael> byebye
[07:40] <mike> gimp is broken this morning? anyone else have this?
[07:41] <bazhang> mike: fixed gimp by dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/gimp_2.4.0~rc3-1ubuntu5_i386.deb and apt-get -f install
[07:46] <kinkajou> sup d00des
[07:47] <bazhang> kinkajou: hi
[07:48] <BluesKaj> some ppl have no patience
[07:48] <bazhang> hahaha
[07:51] <BluesKaj> I wonder if the default kernel will remain 2.6.20, cuz the 2.6.22 version won't boot on my setup
[07:51] <BluesKaj> once gutsy dev is done
[07:52] <DaSkreech> 2.6.22 instaleld for you?
[07:52] <DaSkreech> I had to do it manually
[07:53] <bazhang> DaSkreech: 2.6.22-12?
[07:54] <fangorious> how do I pair with my bluetooth headset?
[07:54] <stdin> !bluetooth
[07:54] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[07:55] <DaSkreech> bazhang: yes
[07:55] <bazhang> DaSkreech: you had to manually install it? I thought it came with Gutsy beta.
[07:55] <max__> hi
[07:55] <DaSkreech> bazhang: So did I. I had 2.6.20 though
[07:55] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech, 2.6..22.9 installed using the net upgrade and the updating with adept afterwards, however I uninstalled it and edited the menu.lst
[07:56] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: I installed it and edited the grub.lst
[07:56] <DaSkreech> We are not so different you and I :)
[07:56] <bogdomania> hello all...i get in the terminal that gcc is not configured..what that means?
[07:56] <DaSkreech> !b-e | bogdomania
[07:56] <ubotu> bogdomania: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:56] <BluesKaj> hehe DaSkreech :)
[07:56] <bazhang> max__: hi
[07:57] <bazhang> max__: what's up?
[07:57] <_Redondos_> hi
[07:57] <_Redondos_> a question
[07:58] <bazhang> hi!
[07:58] <_Redondos_> how dos gutsy pre release work???
[07:58] <_Redondos_> I ask because is a pre release
[07:58] <bazhang> _Redondos_: very very well.
[07:58] <BluesKaj> works quite well _Redondos_
[07:58] <_Redondos_> has got many crashes?
[07:58] <bazhang> feels like final.
[07:58] <_Redondos_> ahh ok
[07:58] <fangorious> stdin: so even though I can graphically see all nearby bluetooth devices, and pair/browse OBEX devices, graphically see all paired devices, etc, I have to hand edit config files to put in manual commands to pair with my headset at every boot?
[07:58] <_Redondos_> because I know kubuntu is stable
[07:58] <bazhang> rock solid.
[07:59] <_Redondos_> haha
[07:59] <_Redondos_> ok
[07:59] <_Redondos_> thank you
[07:59] <stdin> fangorious: not sure, I don't use bluetooth
[07:59] <BluesKaj> after a few with the new updated versionprobs with some ktorrent crashes , it's all fine now
[07:59] <bazhang> _Redondos_: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/7.10/
[08:01] <_Redondos_> ok thank you
[08:01] <bazhang> no problem
[08:02] <SJr|Work> Hmmmm here is a very stupid question, once on the desktop how do I install Kubuntu 7.14 or whatever?
[08:04] <BluesKaj> SJr|Work, pls explain which desktop you are referring to
[08:04] <SJr|Work> well I boot the Kubuntu CD, go to "Start or Install" or whatever
[08:04] <SJr|Work> now I'm at the KDesktop
[08:04] <SJr|Work> but I can't figure out how to install it on my harddrive
[08:04] <SJr|Work> this is so pathetic
[08:05] <fangorious> SJr|Work, the "install" icon on the desktop
[08:05] <SJr|Work> that's wierd there isn't one
[08:05] <BluesKaj> he's on the next page I think
[08:05] <SJr|Work> No
[08:05] <SJr|Work> come to think of I remember that Kdesktop crashed when I booted up
[08:06] <fangorious> SJr|Work, I'm not sure what menu to look for it in, is there something like System Tools from the main menu?
[08:06] <SJr|Work> no
[08:06] <SJr|Work> I'm just at the desktop with the K menu but no desktop
[08:07] <SJr|Work> it looks like this is going to be too slow anyway
[08:07] <jMerliNz> 7.10 is a bit buggy :s
[08:07] <SJr|Work> so I'll just go with ubuntu server
[08:07] <fangorious> SJr|Work, there are no System entries in the K menu?
[08:07] <SJr|Work> hmmmmm
[08:07] <stdin> SJr|Work: just install from the alternate cd if the live install is too slow
[08:07] <SJr|Work> oh
[08:07] <SJr|Work> no it's too slow for VMWare Server
[08:07] <SJr|Work> the Graphics are sucking over network
[08:07] <fangorious> SJr|Work, running a livecd is slow by nature, not reflective of what an installed system would be like
[08:07] <SJr|Work> no I know that, I mean the graphics are slow
[08:08] <fangorious> oh
[08:08] <SJr|Work> slower than normal
[08:08] <SJr|Work> it's just the network configuration that we have
[08:08] <jMerliNz> drivers? o.O
[08:08] <SJr|Work> no
[08:08] <tobias> !resolution | tobias
[08:08] <SJr|Work> I have kubuntu on my notebook in VMWare Workstation which works fine
[08:08] <SJr|Work> it's just the network so I'll go with Ubuntu Server
[08:08] <jMerliNz> i'm having a very strange problem with 7.10
[08:09] <SJr|Work> Whats the problem?
[08:09] <jMerliNz> are there any problems documented with OEM installs?
[08:12] <tobias> sudo aticonfig --resolution=1280x1024,1024x768,800x600
[08:12] <tobias> Error: Section # expected
[08:12] <tobias> why do I get this error? :s
[08:12] <jMerliNz> anyway, the problem is that i chose to do an OEM install
[08:13] <jMerliNz> because i was getting an error message trying to start the O/S with a normal install
[08:13] <jMerliNz> then i did the "prepare for shipping" thing on the OEM desktop
[08:13] <jMerliNz> restarted, created the user etc
[08:13] <jMerliNz> and now when starting I get an error before the login box comes up and I can't open the package manager or any system configurations
[08:14] <tobias> eow wow, forget my previews question
[08:14] <tobias> it works fine :)
[08:15] <stylux02> hello
[08:15] <jMerliNz> hi.
[08:15] <bazhang> hi
[08:15] <happytiger> my friend has a laptop (hp pavillion) which need kernel params "noapic" and "nolapic" set at boot in order to work. But when I add the param to /boot/grub/menu.lst they disappear/gets overwritten everytime there is a new kernel update (which happens frequently since its gutsy on there...). How do I add these to lines so they wont get blown on upgrades???
[08:15] <ajay> hello
[08:16] <bazhang> hi!
[08:16] <ajay> any indian here?
[08:18] <stylux02> hello ajay!
[08:18] <stylux02> how are you?
[08:19] <stylux02> eey
[08:21] <faisan> hello
[08:21] <bazhang> hi!
[08:22] <faisan> what is you name?
[08:23] <faisan> bazhang ehat is you name?
[08:23] <bazhang> faisan: ehat?
[08:24] <faisan> what is you name!!
[08:24] <mishehu> Vermux: whats up oozah
[08:24] <bazhang> faisan: bazhang?
[08:24] <faisan> do you in speak the espanish?
[08:25] <bazhang> !es
[08:25] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:25] <faisan> whrite in the spanish?
[08:26] <faisan> hi
[08:26] <faisan> :P
[08:26] <faisan>  You write in the spanis?
[08:26] <bazhang> faisan: do you have a question?
[08:26] <BluesKaj> faisan, in the textbox type:  /join #kubuntu-es
[08:29] <faisan> as mio is your name is Alan and I am of Mexico
[08:31] <mishehu> Vermux: you smell funny.
[08:31] <mishehu> like ceiling tile dust
[08:32] <Vermux> mishehu: like a dog
[08:35] <soulrider> !es | faisan:
[08:35] <ubotu> faisan:: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:36] <peter_> ubuntu 7.10  update ?
[08:37] <bazhang> peter_: /join ubuntu+1
[08:37] <bazhang> oops #ubuntu+1
[08:37] <peter_> where i consol
[08:37] <jMerliNz> um..
[08:37] <jMerliNz> how do i burn a CD with kubuntu =\
[08:38] <jMerliNz> k3b isn't detecting my burner or media in the drive
[08:38] <jMerliNz> so i can't burn my 7.04 cd to re-install kubuntu
[08:38] <Snuxoll> What drive do you have?
[08:39] <Snuxoll> Open up a terminal and use cdrecord --scanbus
[08:40] <jMerliNz> Snuxoll: cdrecord is not installed on gutsy
[08:40] <bhomeyer> anyone having any issues w/ kopete and Yahoo contacts showing as offline?
[08:41] <peter_> #ubuntu+1 ?
[08:42] <bigb2006> no, eh?
[08:43] <peter_> #ubuntu +1 where do have to put this in ?
[08:44] <bazhang> peter_: just type /join #ubuntu+1   and you will join
[08:45] <matt__> h
[08:45] <matt__> how can I get dvd::rip to see divx6 codec?
[08:47] <Snuxoll> Who higlighted for me?
[08:47] <matt__> whats the best software to rip dvd to divx then
[08:48] <bazhang> ouch
[08:49] <BluesKaj> matt__, why divx ?
[08:49] <winbond> i need a utility which can show cd/dvd info ....aka manufacturer etc
[08:50] <matt__> because ive used that on the darkside - is it not best?
[08:50] <bazhang> what just happened?
[08:50] <peter_> thanks
[08:50] <BluesKaj> whynot just copy the dvd straight ?
[08:51] <Snuxoll> matt__: VLC
[08:51] <Snuxoll> VLC = best DVD ripping software ever
[08:51] <matt__> BluesKaj - I rip them onto a NAS and then stream them over network to mediaplayer
[08:51] <matt__> less space
[08:51] <Snuxoll> Oh, and x264 > Xvid
[08:52] <BluesKaj> matt , K9copy will compress the the commercial dvd to 4.3G to fit on a dvdr
[08:53] <BluesKaj> VLC should be able to do that as well , matt__
[08:53] <matt__> cheers - I'm used to them being 700MB - 1GB and still keeping all aspects
[08:53] <ubuntu_> I'm an idiot and didn't backup a file I needed before reformatting? Is there something I can do from the livecd to recover a pdf file?
[08:54] <Snuxoll> no ubuntu_
[08:54] <matt__> I've installed divx6 on my system (I think) but dvd::rop isnt seeing it
[08:54] <Snuxoll> You formatted the partition, if you hadn't you could have recovered the file
[08:54] <BluesKaj> off a reformatted partition, afraid not
[08:55] <nathan_> is it possible to run kickstart on kubuntu or is that just for red-hat derivatives?
[08:55] <Snuxoll> I'm sorry this isn't much help, but I'd recommend making a 5-10GB backup partition to avoid this issue next time
[08:55] <BluesKaj> kick start works on kde
[08:56] <poison--> !ntfs
[08:56] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:56] <BluesKaj> kickstart will work with kubuntu
[08:56] <poison--> hey  BluesKaj
[08:56] <BluesKaj> hi poison--
[08:57] <jMerliNz> how the hell do you burn a CD in kubuntu if v3b is being a piece of shit?
[08:57] <kin> hi there
[08:57] <bazhang> hi!
[08:57] <nathan_> jMerliNz: man cdrecord
[08:57] <BluesKaj> jMerliNz, mp3 ?
[08:58] <jMerliNz> BluesKaj: kubuntu 7.04 ISO
[08:58] <kin> i have a problem with wrong entries in eth0 when i check with route -n
[08:58] <jMerliNz> nathan_: no man entry for cdrecord
[08:58] <kin> where's the file containing those settings\
[08:58] <jMerliNz> nathan_: cdrecord not found
[08:58] <jMerliNz> k3b says my device can't burn CDs or DVDs
[08:59] <jMerliNz> and doesn't detect the blank media i put in
[08:59] <jMerliNz> but kubuntu does
[08:59] <jMerliNz> and KInfo shows that my drive can burn both cds and dvds
[08:59] <jMerliNz> k3b = fucked
[08:59] <bazhang> holy moley -92 updates?
[08:59] <stdin> jMerliNz: watch the language
[08:59] <jMerliNz> stdin: fix my problem.
[08:59] <kin> does anyone know where the file is with network settings?
[09:00] <ScorpKing> in /etc/network/interfaces
[09:00] <kin> ty
[09:00] <ScorpKing> np
[09:01] <kin> hi scorp im chatting in kubuntu :)
[09:01] <jMerliNz> help me please.
[09:01] <nathan_> jMerliNz: sudo apt-get install cdrecord
[09:01] <jMerliNz> don't make me go back to windows xp
[09:01] <jMerliNz> nathan_: apt-get is broken
[09:01] <ScorpKing> lol
[09:01] <jMerliNz> i can't open the package manager either
[09:01] <nathan_> haha
[09:01] <letalis> has anyon using 7.10 had problems with their scanner not working? kooka wants to default to my v4l device when scanning and it shows nothing about my printers scanner. any ideas?
[09:01] <jMerliNz> like i said 7.10 is FUCKED HARD
[09:01] <ScorpKing> oops. :)
[09:02] <jMerliNz> 7.10 with high end new hardware = fail :(
[09:02] <bazhang> tempting the fates..
[09:02] <ScorpKing> !ohmy | jMerliNz
[09:02] <ubotu> jMerliNz: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:02] <coreymon77> please jMerliNz, watch what you say
[09:02] <kin> im connected via pptp..  i found weird entries of eth0  thats why i can't connect to internet after authentication
[09:02] <jMerliNz> fix my problem and we'll see what i can do about the language.
[09:02] <stdin> !attitude
[09:02] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:03] <wathek> hello all I've a problem with adept it doesn't work ?!
[09:03] <BluesKaj> jMerliNz, it doesn't work that way... no blackmail allowed here
[09:03] <jMerliNz> yes, because my attitude when i call microsoft gets my problem fixed slower.
[09:03] <wathek> I put the password of root and then nothing
[09:03] <coreymon77> jMerliNz: thats not how it works
[09:03] <ScorpKing> kin: can you paste your /etc/network/interfaces?
[09:03] <ScorpKing> !paste
[09:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:03] <ScorpKing> there ^^
[09:03] <coreymon77> jMerliNz: you stop the language, then we'll see what we can do about your problem
[09:03] <jMerliNz> coreymon77: the last time i checked, if you can't support your product for everyone, you shouldn't be making the product at all.
[09:04] <bazhang> wathek: it won't start up?
[09:04] <BluesKaj> jMerliNz, install libdvdcss2 ?
[09:04] <evpc> trk vam trk
[09:04] <evpc> :D
[09:04] <jMerliNz> BluesKaj: can't, package manager DOES NOT WORK.
[09:04] <coreymon77> jMerliNz: there are rules in this channel
[09:04] <BluesKaj> no apt ?
[09:04] <jMerliNz> nope.
[09:04] <stdin> jMerliNz: like ubotu said, people in here are volunteers. they don't make the product
[09:04] <BluesKaj> !tk | evpc
[09:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:04] <jMerliNz> sudo apt-get install <...> just gives 0 lines of output
[09:05] <jMerliNz> just goes right to the next input line
[09:05] <stdin> !tr | evpc
[09:05] <ubotu> evpc: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[09:05] <wathek> bazhang: yes
[09:05] <BluesKaj> right on stdin
[09:05] <wathek> bazhang: I think because I changed the root password
[09:05] <bazhang> wathek: are you ok using the terminal?
[09:05] <jMerliNz> when i try to open the package manager or the system log, it shows up in the task bar for about 10-15 seconds
[09:05] <jMerliNz> then disappears
[09:05] <eilker> evpc: yok
[09:06] <wathek> bazhang: to start adept ?
[09:06] <eilker> !xgl
[09:06] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:06] <evpc> eilker: anlamad
[09:06] <nalioth> hi coreymon77
[09:06] <fawx> ...
[09:06] <eilker> !Turkish
[09:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about turkish - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:06] <bazhang> wathek: well, to do what you want to; add/remove packages, get updates, and so on; it's actually much faster and easier using the terminal.
[09:07] <fawx> i need help
[09:07] <wathek> bazhang: run adept from terminal ?
[09:07] <fawx> w/ wine
[09:07] <fawx> if any 1knows how it works
[09:07] <ScorpKing> !wine
[09:07] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:08] <ScorpKing> try that
[09:08] <jMerliNz> meh
[09:08] <bazhang> wathek: the equivalent to what adept does, through a command called apt-get.
[09:08] <fawx> kk
[09:08] <kin> http://pastebin.com/m38b69bf7
[09:08] <jMerliNz> i'm gonna just try installing wine and using nero with it
[09:08] <jMerliNz> since 7.10 seems to fail miserably
[09:08] <kin> maybe other things are starting weird eth0 entries
[09:08] <coreymon77> jMerliNz: 7.10 is a beta
[09:08] <stdin> !gutsy | jMerliNz
[09:08] <ubotu> jMerliNz: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[09:08] <wathek> bazhang: that's what I'm using now but I tried adept on an other machine and I found it cute
[09:08] <wathek> :p
[09:08] <wathek> lol
[09:08] <jMerliNz> sure a beta, but a beta should not be at an alpha level.
[09:08] <gnomefreak> jMerliNz: your joking right? a non stable release fails?
[09:08] <bazhang> jMerliNz: have to disagree; 7.10 is the best thing out there.
[09:08] <coreymon77> jMerliNz: its not fully stable release yet
[09:08] <jMerliNz> not stable != completely incapacitated
[09:09] <jMerliNz> sorry.
[09:09] <coreymon77> jMerliNz: there are going to still be a few bugs to work out
[09:09] <ScorpKing> kin: that's normal
[09:09] <gnomefreak> jMerliNz: i have it running on a few pcs
[09:09] <jMerliNz> gnomefreak: how old are they?
[09:09] <BluesKaj> <--- running gutsy , very stable so far
[09:09] <kin> oke ill give your the route -n output
[09:09] <kin> you
[09:09] <ScorpKing> ok
[09:09] <jMerliNz> point made.
[09:09] <gnomefreak> jMerliNz: i have one less than 3 months old and one that is since 91/92?
[09:09] <jMerliNz> well i shouldn't say how old
[09:09] <bazhang> wathek: open up a terminal and type the command "sudo apt-get update", followed by your password
[09:10] <jMerliNz> i should say how old are the parts in terms of age since first production
[09:10] <kin> http://pastebin.com/m3f0020b5
[09:10] <gnomefreak> jMerliNz: age of pc matters nothing
[09:10] <gnomefreak> jMerliNz: hardwre in pc counts for everything
[09:10] <jMerliNz> gnomefreak: sure it does, new hardware tends not to work on systems that haven't been designed for it.
[09:10] <coreymon77> jMerliNz: a beta os is a beta os, its not going to be perfec
[09:10] <coreymon77> t
[09:10] <bazhang> haha
[09:10] <kin> if i remove 0.0.0.0  10.0.0.138  0.0.0.0   i can connect to internet
[09:10] <coreymon77> if you dont want to deal with some bugs and compatability problems
[09:10] <coreymon77> jMerliNz: dont use a beta
[09:10] <jMerliNz> coreymon77: if you want to compare this to "not perfect" .. LOL
[09:11] <jMerliNz> coreymon77: WHAT THE HELL DO YOU THINK I'M TRYING TO DO?
[09:11] <jMerliNz> I am trying to burn 7.04 so i can install that
[09:11] <stdin> !caps | jMerliNz
[09:11] <coreymon77> jMerliNz: wow!
[09:11] <ubotu> jMerliNz: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[09:11] <jMerliNz> but 7.10 is so screwed up that I can't even do that.
[09:11] <coreymon77> jMerliNz: calm down
[09:11] <kin> lol
[09:11] <ScorpKing> jMerliNz: please be nice!
[09:11] <bazhang> the perfect is the enemy of the good...
[09:11] <gnomefreak> jMerliNz: i suggest you either grab last tuesday in sept. ISO or you wait till next week and try installing rc, installer may be borked at since we are trying to get the cryptset in and stable
[09:11] <coreymon77> jMerliNz: do you have another computer/os available
[09:11] <jMerliNz> coreymon77: not with a cd burner.
[09:11] <coreymon77> okay
[09:12] <coreymon77> any livecds?
[09:12] <ScorpKing> kin: you are in netherlands perhaps? the modem only works in xp?
[09:12] <jMerliNz> an old dapper ubuntu sure
[09:12] <bazhang> wathek: you still there?
[09:12] <coreymon77> jMerliNz: use that
[09:12] <coreymon77> jMerliNz: use that to burn the disc
[09:12] <jMerliNz> let me try, hold on
[09:12] <kin> yes im in the netherlands but i'm chatting in kubuntu now
[09:12] <wathek> bazhang: yes
[09:12] <bazhang> wathek: did you try that?
[09:12] <wathek> bazhang: I changed the root password so I can connect as root when I need
[09:13] <ScorpKing> kin: sorry, the router only connects in xp right?
[09:13] <wathek> bazhang: I used apt-get to install what I need but I'm looking for a solution for adept
[09:13] <stdin> wathek: and "sudo -i" doesn't work because?
[09:13] <kin> ? no
[09:13] <wathek> stdin: euh let me check
[09:13] <kin> kubuntu laptop > eth0 > adslmodem
[09:13] <bazhang> wathek: ok then:  in root, or sudo apt-get update, then upgrade.
[09:13] <ScorpKing> kin: there was another guy here (Bleep) with the same router and problem. :(
[09:14] <wathek> bazhang: I did that
[09:14] <kin> I am Bleep LOL!!
[09:14] <kin> cofee? :P
[09:14] <kin> f
[09:14] <ScorpKing> kin: then say so. lmao!
[09:14] <poison--> LOL
[09:14] <lyn_> I"m using Konversation in here, and I registerd my nick this morning.  I restarted computer and now its saying nick is already in use.  I did a who is on it and it's me alright.  Same location.  still won't let me use it though
[09:14] <poison--> hi scorpio
[09:14] <bazhang> wathek: so the problem is you want to use adept because...?
[09:14] <lyn_> how can I fix this
[09:14] <ScorpKing> hi poison--:)
[09:14] <stdin> !ghost
[09:14] <ubotu> On IRC, if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit by typing: /msg nickserv GHOST <username> <password>
[09:15] <wathek> bazhang: euh
[09:15] <stdin> lyn_: ^ read that
[09:15] <coreymon77> lyn_: do you own the nick?
[09:15] <quixogre> afternoon all :)
[09:15] <bazhang> wathek: sorry?
[09:15] <kin> wel I'm trying to find out what application causes to add that weird entry when i startup kubuntu
[09:15] <lyn_> coreymon77; I registerd it does that me I own it?
[09:15] <coreymon77> lyn_: if you registered it with nickserv, that means you own it
[09:16] <coreymon77> lyn_: is this one also registered and linked with the other one?
[09:16] <ScorpKing> kin: what error? have you found more info for me about the router? is it working now?
[09:16] <lyn_> now it's saying it's not registered?
[09:16] <wathek> bazhang: when I try to run adept_updater I need to enter a password so when I put the root password it says wrong password !
[09:16] <coreymon77> lyn_: okay slow down
[09:16] <coreymon77> lyn_: the nick you are trying to use is registered right?
[09:16] <quixogre> wathek, try the admin users password
[09:16] <coreymon77> lyn_: by you
[09:16] <stdin> wathek: you use _your_ password
[09:16] <lyn_> lyn_ isn't registered it was a default alternative
[09:16] <wathek> stdin: my password ?!
[09:17] <stdin> wathek: yes
[09:17] <coreymon77> lyn_: lyn is owned by you though correct?
[09:17] <wathek> stdin: I've to use that only if my root password is set to nothing isn't it ?
[09:17] <pippo> stdin: I have a problem with wireless... with ubuntu it is all ok, but in kubuntu I can't find my router
[09:17] <lyn_> don't know....new to this whole thing
[09:17] <lyn_> I only registered new2ub
[09:17] <coreymon77> lyn_: did you register lyn?
[09:17] <stdin> wathek: no, even is root password is set you use yours
[09:17] <lyn_> no
[09:17] <coreymon77> lyn_: of
[09:17] <coreymon77> lyn_: oh
[09:17] <quixogre> wathek, when you install ubuntu the first name you set up is created as admin
[09:17] <coreymon77> lyn_: okay then
[09:17] <kin> well actually i dont have to do any setup with my adslmodem... i should left it like it was in xp before
[09:17] <wathek> ah
[09:17] <wathek> ok
[09:17] <wathek> let's try then
[09:17] <stdin> pippo: I'm not good with wireless, mine just works
[09:18] <pippo> ok
[09:18] <kin> then i install ppp and pptp in kubuntu
[09:18] <lyn_> should I register it?
[09:18] <BluesKaj> lyn_,once you do the ghost command you have to quit and relogin
[09:18] <lyn_> oh...ok
[09:18] <quixogre> pippo it works with gnome, but not with kde?
[09:18] <coreymon77> lyn_: what you need to do, is register another nickname (such as new2ub_) with the same password as you normal nick
[09:18] <lyn_> but it told me the nick wasn't registered and I know it was
[09:18] <pippo> yes
[09:18] <coreymon77> which nick are you trying to use
[09:18] <bazhang> wathek: do you have a sudo pasword
[09:18] <pippo> in kde it can't work
[09:18] <lyn_> new2ub
[09:18] <bazhang> password
[09:19] <BluesKaj> just quit and relogin
[09:19] <coreymon77> lyn_: okay
[09:19] <fawx> another question um...can kubuntu show the users on a list b4 any1 logs in and how?
[09:19] <pippo> quixogre: I can't understand how it is possible
[09:19] <coreymon77> lyn_: change your nick to new2ub_
[09:19] <quixogre> pippo, try opening the knetworkmanager tool. does it recognize your wireless card in there?
[09:19] <piratux_> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[09:19] <wathek> bazhang: no
[09:19] <poison--> man.. virtualbox rules
[09:19] <fawx> for example like on windows xp where it list all users
[09:19] <lyn_> coremon77; should I register that one too?
[09:19] <coreymon77> lyn_: yes
[09:19] <lyn_> ok brb
[09:19] <pippo> quixogre: yes it recognize my wireless card
[09:19] <coreymon77> lyn_: under the same password
[09:19] <bazhang> wathek: maybe stdin can answer...
[09:19] <quixogre> pippo, using wep or WPA for wireless security?
[09:19] <coreymon77> lyn_: it must be under the same pword as new2ub
[09:20] <pippo> quixogre: it is so strange, the same card under gnome...
[09:20] <pippo> quixogre: wep, but in gnome no problem, only there in kde
[09:20] <xenol> plz where should i look for default kde panel backrounds?
[09:20] <ScorpKing> kin: so where are we now with the setup?
[09:20] <stdin> wathek: sudo/kdesu uses your user password, that's why root is disabled, it's not needed
[09:20] <pippo> quixogre: it can't fine my net... not just to connect, but it doesn't find my net
[09:20] <fawx> ...ugh
[09:20] <coreymon77> pippo: what card
[09:20] <wathek> stdin: h
[09:21] <quixogre> pippo, kde and gnome use different interfaces for the ethernet cards. the fact that it works with gnome network manager is a good sign. just means you gotta configure kde networkmanager
[09:21] <coreymon77> pippo: what card are you using
[09:21] <stdin> !away | den
[09:21] <ubotu> den: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[09:21] <wathek> stdin: so I've to reconfigure sudo ?
[09:21] <pippo> intel pro wireless 2200GB
[09:21] <stdin> wathek: why? you don't need a root password or root user
[09:21] <den> in tha fawx den
[09:21] <den> ..?
[09:21] <coreymon77> pippo: okay, give me a sec
[09:21] <wathek> stdin: so I've to remove the root password that I put ?
[09:21] <pippo> thx
[09:21] <kin> scorp: http://pastebin.com/m3f0020b5     why the entry 0.0.0.0    10.0.0.138  0.0.0.0  keep coming back after kubuntu restart
[09:22] <xenol> plz where is kde panel installed?
[09:22] <kin> this entry prevents me from connecting to internet
[09:22] <stdin> wathek: you can, it doesn't effect sudo or kdesu
[09:22] <wathek> stdin: ok
[09:22] <stdin> wathek: if you want to remove it "sudo passwd -dl root"
[09:23] <ScorpKing> kin: use my full nick if you talk to me. i might miss what you say. press scorp<tab> for autocompletion. checking...
[09:23] <coreymon77> pippo: okay, laptop or desktop
[09:23] <pippo> laptop
[09:23] <pippo> acer aspire 1650
[09:23] <wathek> stdin: ok
[09:23] <coreymon77> pippo: okay
[09:23] <kin> ScorpKing: oke :
[09:23] <ScorpKing> :)
[09:24] <coreymon77> pippo: type lspmcia and paste the contents on pastebin
[09:24] <kin> lol im a complete newbie in irc
[09:24] <coreymon77> new2ub_: hi again
[09:24] <pippo> ok
[09:24] <pippo> Socket 0 Bridge:        [yenta_cardbus]          (bus ID: 0000:06:01.0)
[09:24] <coreymon77> pippo: i said pastebin!
[09:24] <kin> ww.pastebin.com
[09:24] <pippo> sorry where is pastebin?
[09:25] <kin> www.pastebin.com
[09:25] <genii> !paste
[09:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:25] <pippo> thanks sorry
[09:25] <genii> There are a few
[09:25] <kin> np
[09:25] <pippo> sorry I am newbie
[09:25] <kin> me 3 :)
[09:25] <coreymon77> pippo: no problem
[09:25] <poison--> !printer
[09:25] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[09:25] <coreymon77> pippo: just put it there and give me the url
[09:26] <pippo> I ve pusted
[09:26] <coreymon77> okay, never mind that
[09:26] <ScorpKing> kin: what does /etc/resolve.conf say now?
[09:26] <coreymon77> pippo: built in card? or external usb?
[09:26] <pippo> ok
[09:26] <pippo> in card
[09:27] <pippo> integrated with mother card
[09:27] <coreymon77> i see
[09:27] <coreymon77> is it detected?
[09:27] <new2ub_> coremon77; when I restarted I was able to use the original one again, but registered my other one just in case this happens again.   Thanks :)
[09:27] <pippo> yes
[09:27] <pippo> my kubuntu can detect my card
[09:27] <pippo> well
[09:27] <coreymon77> pippo: okay then
[09:27] <coreymon77> pippo: knetworkmanager is buggy
[09:28] <coreymon77> pippo: get rid of that and install kwifimanager
[09:28] <pippo> is there a bug?
[09:28] <kin> ScorpKing: http://pastebin.com/m54c3bac9
[09:28] <pippo> ok
[09:28] <coreymon77> pippo: i just find that it doesnt work well
[09:28] <new2ub_> I just installed this ubuntu a  couple of days ago from  XP and I'm having some issues with the cd and dvd drives
[09:28] <pippo> do I have to install kwifimanager?
[09:28] <coreymon77> pippo: yes
[09:29] <coreymon77> new2ub_: did you take care of the nickname thing>
[09:29] <coreymon77> ?
[09:29] <pippo> ok
[09:29] <coreymon77> pippo: done.
[09:29] <coreymon77> ?
[09:29] <new2ub_> coremon77; yes  thank you ;)
[09:29] <coreymon77> new2ub_: did you link the nicks?
[09:29] <new2ub_> yes
[09:29] <pippo> well I do
[09:29] <new2ub_> same password right
[09:30] <coreymon77> new2ub_: you also have to actually link them with a command
[09:30] <pippo> it says : no netword
[09:30] <pippo> network
[09:30] <parsnip> hey guys
[09:30] <new2ub_> what command
[09:30] <coreymon77> pippo: i know
[09:30] <ScorpKing> kin: see if this helps - http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/usersguide/linux_ugrouting.html
[09:30] <coreymon77> new2ub_: /msg nickserv link new2ub [your password] 
[09:31] <wathek> euh another question is it possible to read the ram files (radio stream) with amarok ?
[09:31] <coreymon77> pippo: give me a sec, gotta start up my linux box
[09:31] <pippo> ok thx
[09:31] <quixogre> !mp3 | wathek
[09:31] <ubotu> wathek: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:31] <kin> ScorpKing: thnx! ill read that
[09:31] <wathek> ok thanx a lot
[09:31] <bazhang> wathek: did you sort the adept problem?
[09:32] <ScorpKing> kin: come back if you can't get it working.
[09:32] <coreymon77> new2ub_: once you do that command, you can switch back to your regular nick
[09:32] <wathek> bazhang: no
[09:32] <kin> ScorpKing: oke   thx again
[09:32] <wathek> bazhang: but doesn't matter gonna still using apt-get
[09:32] <ScorpKing> np kin :)
[09:33] <bazhang> wathek: I think it gets sorted with all the updates; there have something like a couple of hundred the last two days...
[09:33] <wathek> bazhang: I'm updating all packages with apt-get now
[09:33] <bazhang> wathek: it's so much simpler.
[09:34] <poison--> damn, no issues with my box for two weeks
[09:34] <poison--> boring
[09:34] <bazhang> ahhahaha
[09:34] <ScorpKing> hehe poison--. what's wrong?
[09:34] <wathek> bazhang: I was using Fedora on my workstation and I'm using Debian on my server so I wanted to migrate from Fedora to Kubuntu :)
[09:34] <poison--> nutin.., dats the problem
[09:35] <poison--> everitin workin so smood i can barely believe
[09:35] <ScorpKing> lol. same here.
[09:35] <bazhang> wathek: interesting
[09:35] <poison--> even Beryl
[09:35] <coreymon77> pippo: give me 2 secs, just gotta deal with soemthing
[09:35] <poison--> samba, cups..
[09:35] <poison--> bah
[09:35] <poison--> i want issues
[09:35] <poison--> eheheheh
[09:35] <quixogre> blah. if kwifimanager gets my wifi running, im gonna puke...
[09:35] <pippo> ok thx so much
[09:36] <kin> running application buttons dont appear in main taskbar but in external taskbar... how do i change it?
[09:37] <coreymon77> pippo: alright now
[09:37] <pippo> ok
[09:37] <coreymon77> kwifimanager is open?
[09:37] <pippo> yes
[09:37] <coreymon77> pippo: good, go to system settings
[09:37] <pippo> ok
[09:38] <coreymon77> pippo: then click on network settings
[09:38] <pippo> done
[09:38] <pippo> ok
[09:38] <coreymon77> pippo: scroll down to the bottom of that window and click administrator mode
[09:38] <pippo> ok
[09:39] <coreymon77> put in your pword and let that load
[09:39] <coreymon77> done?
[09:39] <pippo> done
[09:39] <pippo> now?
[09:39] <coreymon77> pippo: okay, in the list of available network interfaces, what does it say?
[09:40] <pippo> there are two  cards: lan and wireless
[09:40] <coreymon77> pippo: okay, which ones not working?
[09:40] <pippo> in wireless the ip is 169.254.9.167
[09:40] <pippo> eth1
[09:40] <coreymon77> pippo: i dont need to know that
[09:40] <pippo> doesn't work eth1
[09:40] <coreymon77> pippo: which ones not working, the lan or the wireless
[09:40] <pippo> wireless
[09:40] <coreymon77> okay
[09:40] <coreymon77> click on the wireless and press configure
[09:41] <pippo> done
[09:41] <coreymon77> do you let dhcp assign your ip, or do you have a static?
[09:41] <pippo> dhcp assign
[09:41] <coreymon77> okay
[09:41] <coreymon77> is this your normal netowrk
[09:42] <pippo> yes
[09:42] <coreymon77> is this the one that you want your computer to connect to by default whenever you start up kubuntu?
[09:42] <pippo> I am using wpa for security
[09:42] <pippo> yes
[09:42] <coreymon77> okay
[09:43] <coreymon77> well then, click the box that says activate when the computer starts
[09:43] <coreymon77> did you already install the wpa-supplicant package?
[09:43] <coreymon77> pippo: did you already set up wpa support?
[09:43] <pippo> I tryed but I couldn't install... some error on command
[09:43] <Ace_NoOne> I keep getting errors when trying to install Kubuntu in my virtual machine: http://i20.tinypic.com/ab7ddj.png
[09:44] <kin> how do i get running applications to show up in the main taskbar?
[09:44] <pippo> like sh - remove to remove my oldest driver
[09:44] <Ace_NoOne> (it's actually always the same error - see above)
[09:44] <ScorpKing> coreymon77: wpa-supplicant package? i need that.
[09:44] <coreymon77> pippo: why didnt you tell me that before
[09:44] <pippo> sorry coreymon
[09:44] <coreymon77> pippo: none of this will work if thats not set up
[09:44] <pippo> I tried to install its but
[09:44] <coreymon77> okay
[09:44] <pippo> sorry
[09:45] <coreymon77> pippo: we will do that now
[09:45] <coreymon77> pippo: close system settings
[09:45] <pippo> thx so much coreymon
[09:45] <pippo> closed
[09:46] <pippo> I've done
[09:47] <bazhang> coreymon77: you the man.
[09:47] <coreymon77> pippo: okay
[09:47] <coreymon77> so
[09:47] <pippo> ok
[09:49] <coreymon77> pippo: turns out we are gonna need knetworkmanager
[09:49] <pippo> ok
[09:49] <coreymon77> type this into konsole
[09:50] <coreymon> pippo: sudo aptitude install knetworkmanager network-manager wpasupplicant
[09:51] <coreymon77> pippo: put that into konsole
[09:51] <pippo> done
[09:52] <wathek> stdin: I think that I've a problem with sudo
[09:52] <coreymon77> pippo: that done?
[09:52] <coreymon77> pippo: no problems?
[09:52] <wathek> stdin: I tried sudo ls /media/hda1
[09:52] <pippo> it is already installed
[09:52] <coreymon77> pippo: what is?
[09:52] <wathek> stdin: It needs my password I putted it and then nothing
[09:52] <wathek> wathek@wathek:~$ sudo ls /media/hda1/
[09:52] <wathek> [sudo]  password for wathek:
[09:52] <wathek> wathek@wathek:~$
[09:52] <coreymon77> pippo: whats already installed?
[09:52] <pippo> that you said me to install
[09:53] <pippo> by konsole
[09:53] <coreymon77> all 3 of those packages are already installed?
[09:53] <stdin> wathek: are you sure there's anything in that directory? try "sudo ls -la /media/hda1"
[09:53] <pippo> yes
[09:53] <wathek> stdin: yes with root it works
[09:53] <coreymon77> pippo: you sure?
[09:53] <pippo> no package will be installed , upgraded or removed
[09:53] <coreymon77> pippo: did you put in the command anyways?
[09:54] <pippo> I don't remember coreymon77 ... this afternoon I've tried to upgrade , and I don't know what I've done this afternoon
[09:54] <coreymon77> pippo: just to make sure, what command did you enter
[09:54] <pippo> sudo aptitude install knetworkmanager network-manager wpasupplicant
[09:54] <coreymon77> pippo: okay then
[09:55] <coreymon77> pippo: good
[09:55] <coreymon77> pippo: restart your comptuer and come back on irc once youve restarted
[09:55] <pippo> ok
[09:55] <pippo> I am restarting
[09:55] <pippo> thx so much coreymon
[09:55] <itch_> Hello guys. Can somebody give an advice regarding my CRT refresh rate. After properly configuring v/h sync ranges in xorg.conf I still can`t set up my display to 1280X1024 @ 100Hz. Any sugestions on what I can do to correct this ?
[09:57] <poison--> ScorpKing
[09:57] <ScorpKing> hmm?
[09:57] <poison--> have a issue
[09:57] <poison--> lmao
[09:58] <ScorpKing> hehe :P
[09:58] <poison--> can i use a ati with virtualbox?
[09:58] <wathek> stdin: strange isn't it ?
[09:58] <coreymon77> pippo: that was fast
[09:58] <stdin> wathek: very
[09:58] <pippo> :)
[09:58] <pippo> I've restarted
[09:58] <ScorpKing> poison--: no idea. i've got bad grapics and i only buy geforce. :)
[09:58] <pippo> kubuntu is fast
[09:59] <Minataku> itch_: 100Hz is far beyond detection of human vision
[09:59] <wathek> stdin: :(
[09:59] <Minataku> 75Hz is good enough
[09:59] <poison--> i use 120Hz here
[09:59] <pippo> but ... not wireless
[09:59] <poison--> seems ok
[09:59] <Minataku> Beyond that you're just pushing the CRT
[09:59] <pippo> coreymon77: it doesn't work
[09:59] <Minataku> Really, 60Hz is already beyond human vision limitations
[09:59] <coreymon77> pippo: open knetworkmanager
[10:00] <Minataku> But some people (idiots) have convinced themselves that 60Hz has visible flicker
[10:00] <bazhang> Minataku: hahaha
[10:00] <pippo> coreymon77: from sistray?
[10:00] <Minataku> Though other people legitimately have issues at 60Hz for some reason or another
[10:00] <coreymon77> yes
[10:00] <pippo> ok
[10:00] <Minataku> Though bumping up to 72 or 75 is typically plenty to allieviate them
[10:00] <pippo> done
[10:01] <coreymon77> pippo: okay, select your network from the list
[10:01] <pippo> no wireless network found
[10:01] <Minataku> Considering your standard NTSC TV is 60Hz (PAL is 50Hz), there's no issue with the NTSC refresh
[10:01] <coreymon77> pippo: then go to connect to other wireless network
[10:01] <coreymon77> pippo: and put in your essid
[10:01] <itch_> Minataku : Somehow I can tell if it`s 100Hz or less. And it makes a big difference for my eyes
[10:02] <coreymon77> pippo: and then choose wpa as the encryption type
[10:02] <Minataku> itch_: Severe vision issues?
[10:02] <Minataku> If so, switch to LCD, which technically has no refresh rate
[10:02] <itch_> Minataku : Already wearing glasses. (-0.5, I admint, but still)
[10:03] <coreymon77> pippo: everything good, or no?
[10:03] <Minataku> Since there's no repeated scan involved in keeping an LCD lit up
[10:03] <pippo> I ve putted my essid (Belkin54G) and wpa password
[10:03] <pippo> it is stopped on 28% of configuring device
[10:03] <pippo> now says eth1 not active
[10:03] <coreymon77> pippo: sigh
[10:03] <itch_> Minataku : and since my CRT can do 100Hz, why not use it (besides that I don`t know how :D)
[10:03] <coreymon77> pippo: go back to system settings
[10:04] <coreymon77> pippo: and network settings, go to admin mode and enter your pword
[10:04] <bazhang> Minataku: you should do a podcast on this. this is interesting and funny stuff!
[10:04] <pinguino> hhhh
[10:04] <ScorpKing> pippo: it stops beacuse of the auth stuff.
[10:04] <coreymon77> pippo: you in network settings?
[10:05] <pippo> just a moment , I have to disconnect from eth0
[10:05] <pippo> ?
[10:05] <pippo> I don't think is good...
[10:05] <pippo> I have lag
[10:05] <Minataku> Right, and let Apple have it's way with my content? Yeah right.
[10:05] <coreymon77> Minataku: you dont have to
[10:05] <Minataku> I'll podcast it if they agree to a heavy licensing fee.
[10:05] <bazhang> Minataku: sorry streaming mp3-cast?
[10:05] <Minataku> Fight fire with fire, mwahahaha
[10:05] <coreymon77> Minataku: what do you need that for
[10:05] <bazhang> hahaha
[10:06] <coreymon77> Minataku: apple has no say with what you put on a podcast
[10:06] <pippo> hmmm
[10:06] <coreymon77> pippo: okay
[10:06] <poison--> ScorpKing, youre a useless bum than
[10:06] <poison--> lmao
[10:06] <pippo> coreymon77: I don't think it is working
[10:06] <coreymon77> pippo: go to network settings again
[10:07] <pippo> there is a symbol with x
[10:07] <coreymon77> pippo: where?
[10:07] <itch_> Minataku : so, do you have any ideea on how I might "convince" my CRT to do 100Hz ? I already congigured my xorg.conf and added the v/h sync ranges, but no good. I Windows, after installing the driver, I could choose 100Hz, but in linux, I have no clue on how I might do it.
[10:07] <ScorpKing> poison--: shame on u. :P
[10:07] <pippo> on eth1 (my wireless)
[10:07] <poison--> eheheheh
[10:07] <coreymon77> pippo: in what/
[10:07] <pippo> I am on network setting
[10:07] <coreymon77> pippo: oh
[10:07] <Minataku> itch_: Setting up xorg to do it should be enough
[10:07] <Minataku> !resolution
[10:07] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:07] <Minataku> Try that, perhaps
[10:07] <coreymon77> pippo: thats because the itnerface is disabled
[10:07] <coreymon77> pippo: go to admin mode
[10:08] <pippo> I am in admin mode now
[10:08] <coreymon77> pippo: okay
[10:08] <coreymon77> pippo: click on eth1 and then click enable interface
[10:09] <pippo> it was enabled and clicking on enable it is disabled
[10:09] <pippo> now it is enabled
[10:09] <coreymon77> pippo: is it enabled now
[10:09] <coreymon77> okay
[10:09] <itch_> Minataku : the xorg can`t even detect my display properly. It chooses "default monitor" and I`m stuck with a louzy 1024x786 @ 60 Hz screen resolution.
[10:09] <coreymon77> pippo: now click on configure
[10:09] <pippo> ok done
[10:09] <coreymon77> pippo: click the activate when computer starts box
[10:10] <coreymon77> pippo: so that there is an X in it
[10:10] <pippo> there is an X in it
[10:10] <coreymon77> okay
[10:10] <coreymon77> pippo: now in the key type menu
[10:10] <coreymon77> pippo: can you choose wpa?
[10:10] <pippo> no
[10:10] <coreymon77> darn
[10:10] <coreymon77> pippo: it is enabled now?
[10:11] <pippo> yes it is enabled
[10:11] <coreymon77> okay
[10:11] <coreymon77> press okay
[10:11] <bazhang> yesss!
[10:11] <coreymon77> then press apply
[10:11] <coreymon77> pippo: done?
[10:11] <pippo> while saving the network setting
[10:12] <coreymon77> pippo: huh?
[10:12] <pippo> it is freezed on windows that say me reloading network
[10:12] <coreymon77> pippo: i know
[10:12] <coreymon77> pippo: give it some time
[10:12] <pippo> ok done
[10:12] <coreymon77> pippo: okay
[10:12] <coreymon77> pippo: now close the window
[10:12] <pippo> I ve done apply
[10:12] <pippo> and now
[10:12] <pippo> reloading network
[10:12] <coreymon77> pippo: and try to connect to your network with knetworkmanager again, choosing wpa as the encryption type
[10:12] <pippo> and a message say eth1 is active
[10:13] <bazhang> yay!
[10:13] <pippo> where?
[10:13] <kin> where's the theme manager located?
[10:13] <pippo> in other wireless?
[10:13] <coreymon77> pippo: is your network listed?
[10:13] <pippo> or in manual configuration?
[10:14] <pippo> yes the last network that firstly I've done
[10:14] <coreymon77> pippo: is your netowkr listed in knetworkmanager
[10:14] <Minataku> itch_: Ugh... stupid automation... "makes things easier" my ass
[10:14] <Minataku> When it guesses wrong or can't guess, it makes things 500x harder
[10:14] <itch_> Minataku : Indeed
[10:14] <Minataku> This is why I hate Windows
[10:14] <bazhang> Minataku: more on refresh rates!
[10:14] <coreymon77> pippo: ?
[10:14] <Minataku> I take it the link only says how to do it automatically?
[10:15] <pippo> another way is stopped on 28%
[10:15] <pippo> I am waiting
[10:15] <pippo> and now
[10:15] <pippo> say
[10:15] <Bauldrick> i was on about dvd::rip earlier and divx... I'm currently ripping a dvd 1hr 12min (2 pass) in xvid4, gonna be about 2hrs 30mins on 64 bit machine - windows would have done it in 1hr 30 tops - guess thats down to compression (xvid) being old?
[10:16] <coreymon77> pippo: what happened there?
[10:16] <Minataku> Bauldrick: The difference is that Linux does it right.
[10:16] <pippo> eth1 is not connected
[10:16] <Minataku> Windows doesn't give a crap
[10:16] <pippo> my connession in unstable when I try to connect to eth1
[10:16] <ScorpKing> coreymon77: it stops on 28% if there is any authentication on the network. mine does the same unless i remove authentication from the router.
[10:16] <Bauldrick> i'll hold judgemebnt!!
[10:17] <Minataku> lol
[10:17] <pippo> I think that this problem is impossible
[10:17] <coreymon77> pippo: im sorry, i really dont know what to do anymore, to tell you the truth i really am not that familiar with wpa
[10:17] <pippo> ok thanks the same
[10:17] <coreymon77> so if anyone here is more familiar with it
[10:17] <pippo> you are so kind
[10:17] <coreymon77> please help
[10:17] <coreymon77> pippo: im sorry i couldnt fix it
[10:18] <pippo> I think that is a bug, because with ubuntu I had no problem
[10:18] <coreymon77> pippo: if you ever decide to switch to wep, then could probably do more
[10:18] <pippo> thanks the same
[10:18] <Bauldrick> does anyone use any software that uses divx6 here?
[10:18] <pippo> ok I think to switch to wep
[10:18] <coreymon77> pippo: you dont have to
[10:18] <bazhang> pippo: it's not impossible--are you running Feisty?
[10:18] <ScorpKing> pippo: i have the same problem. it only works if i remove authentication from the router. i aslo don't know what's wrong. :(
[10:18] <pippo> I am running Feisty
[10:18] <bazhang> pippo: anyway to use ethernet?
[10:18] <ScorpKing> feisty here as well...
[10:19] <coreymon77> i cant help, ive exhausted all of the pages on the wiki, so im out of ideas
[10:19] <pippo> I can use my ethernet cable
[10:19] <pippo> thanks the same
[10:19] <pippo> don't worry
[10:19] <coreymon77> no problem
[10:19] <coreymon77> wish i could help more
[10:19] <pippo> you have done all :)
[10:19] <pippo> thanks from italy and sorry for my bad english
[10:20] <pippo> do you know if is there an italian help channel?
[10:20] <coreymon77> bad english?
[10:20] <coreymon77> i never noticed anything
[10:20] <pippo> my english is awful
[10:20] <coreymon77> !it
[10:20] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:20] <bazhang> pippo: not so!
[10:20] <coreymon77> pippo: it really isnt
[10:20] <pippo> thx
[10:20] <pippo> :)
[10:20] <glenn_> Sup Guys :] 
[10:21] <bazhang> pippo: you should consider upgrading to Gutsy; many of these issues are worked out.
[10:21] <bazhang> pippo: in the meantime, could you connect via ethernet?
[10:21] <pippo> yes
[10:21] <glenn_> :
[10:21] <coreymon77> bazhang: i wouldnt reccomend gutsy yet
[10:21] <pippo> I am connecting via ethernet
[10:22] <coreymon77> bazhang: not for someone unexperienced
[10:22] <pippo> is gutsy beta version now?
[10:22] <coreymon77> yes
[10:22] <bazhang> coreymon77: ok; my bad..
[10:23] <pippo> is it Gutsy beta good?
[10:24] <coreymon77> pippo: i wouldnt reccomend it right now
[10:24] <pippo> ok
[10:24] <pippo> I will wait for right release
[10:25] <pippo> nobody answer on #ubuntu-it... italy is a strange land :)
[10:26] <coreymon77> many of the local channels are not all to active
[10:26] <pippo> I see :)
[10:30] <Bauldrick> what is it, 2 weeks till gutsy release?
[10:31] <ScorpKing> yes. that's what i saw today.
[10:33] <ScorpKing> i wonder if it will run on my laptop....
[10:33] <ScorpKing> 640Mhz 320MB ram
[10:33] <ScorpKing> feisty works well.
[10:34] <Bauldrick> wonder if it'll run on my Linkstation 400Mhz 32MB ram?!! (
[10:34] <ScorpKing> nope. lol
[10:35] <ScorpKing> you might get the kernel working tho. :)
[10:35] <Kachna> i'd get debian for that
[10:36] <Bauldrick> already have!!
[10:36] <Kachna> good choice :-)
[10:36] <ScorpKing> any graphics?
[10:36] <Bauldrick> not onboard, can run vnc
[10:36] <Kachna> what for...?
[10:36] <[Relic] > add more ram?  :)
[10:37] <ScorpKing> oh, i see. :)
[10:37] <[Relic] > if progress dialog only had some sort of progress indicator  :(
[10:38] <[Relic] > deleting a drive takes a while  :)
[10:38] <ScorpKing> progress indicating in linux is way better that windows.
[10:39] <[Relic] > using only 0 not done and 1 done is quite accurate but doesn't do much for estimating time of a trash deletetion  :)
[10:39] <ScorpKing> hehe
[10:40] <phoenixz> Hi there, I am using knetworkmanager to manage all my network stuff. Now, I want to configure a VPN connection, but selecting the menu entry VPN connections -> configure VPN does not do anything.. Does anybody know how I can fix this??
[10:41] <nosrednaekim> phoenixz: no clue....
[10:41] <[Relic] > Anything do disk spanning for backups so I can just choose all the directories I want and let the program tell me how many DVDs I need?  :)
[10:42] <phoenixz> nosrednaekim, It does work with you?
[10:42] <nosrednaekim> phoenixz: I've never used it
[10:42] <Ace_NoOne> hmm .. I've installed Yakuake and assigned ALT+SPACE as key combo - that starts Katapult tho; how can I reset the shortcut?
[10:42] <nosrednaekim> !backup
[10:42] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[10:42] <Psycoshot> How do you find a package name.
[10:43] <nosrednaekim> Ace_NoOne: go to systemsettings->keyboard and mouse
[10:43] <serafo> boas noites
[10:43] <Les_Caesars> In the "recent" tab, my kicker menu shows recent documents, but not recent applications. How can I fix this?
[10:43] <phoenixz> what does katapult do by the way??
[10:43] <nosrednaekim> Psycoshot: "apt-cache search <keyword>"
[10:43] <ardchoille> Psycoshot: apt-cache search app_name_here  ?
[10:43] <ardchoille> I like nosrednaekim's explanation better
[10:44] <nosrednaekim> phoenixz: its a quick launcher/caclulator
[10:44] <Ace_NoOne> nosrednaekim: can't seem to find it there
[10:44] <Psycoshot> What would AmarokFS's package name be :S
[10:44] <nosrednaekim> Ace_find what?
[10:44] <Ace_NoOne> nosrednaekim: anything that would help me solve the problem
[10:44] <nosrednaekim> Ace_NoOne: oh sorry wrong nick.
[10:44] <nosrednaekim> just a sec
[10:45] <Ace_NoOne> for the record: I'm a KDE newbie
[10:46] <emilsedgh> Psycoshot: if you want AmaroKFS, try Kirocker music display...
[10:46] <Webbmaster> anyone here heard of Xephyr
[10:46] <Psycoshot> Ak thanks.
[10:46] <nosrednaekim> Ace_NoOne: :)its ok. umm is there a place to configure yakuake?
[10:46] <nosrednaekim> Webbmaster: yup
[10:46] <Ace_NoOne> nosrednaekim: that's what I'm trying to figure out
[10:47] <Psycoshot> 
[10:47] <Psycoshot> emilsedgh: Wow thats much better.
[10:47] <emilsedgh> Psycoshot: it rocks!
[10:47] <nosrednaekim> Ace_NoOne: humm... let me go get yakuake
[10:47] <Ace_NoOne> sorry for the trouble
[10:47] <Webbmaster> how do i start another instance of kde to run in Xephyr
[10:47] <nosrednaekim> no problem
[10:47] <Webbmaster> presumeably i run export DISPLAY=:1 and then some other command
[10:48] <emilsedgh> yakuake 2.8 is __REALLY__ better, splits vertically and horizontally, and becomes full-screen, really usefull features
[10:48] <Daisuke_Ido> Ace_NoOne: launch yakuake
[10:48] <Daisuke_Ido> it's in the menu
[10:48] <Ace_NoOne> Daisuke_Ido: I did, like three times
[10:48] <Daisuke_Ido> (key binding)
[10:48] <nosrednaekim> !kde4 | Webbmaster this will tell you a little how to run KDE, just don't run those KDE4 specific export lines
[10:48] <ubotu> Webbmaster this will tell you a little how to run KDE, just don't run those KDE4 specific export lines: KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php
[10:48] <nosrednaekim> the last link^^
[10:49] <Webbmaster> nosrednaekim: thanks
[10:49] <nosrednaekim> NP
[10:49] <Webbmaster> i did try to install kde4 which is where i got the idea from :D
[10:49] <nosrednaekim> oh :) is that what you were trying to run?
[10:50] <Webbmaster> nah
[10:50] <Ace_NoOne> Daisuke_Ido: there is no menu for Yakuake
[10:50] <Webbmaster> i just ran kde4 normally, but it was no good
[10:50] <Ace_NoOne> well, I can't access it anymore now
[10:50] <nosrednaekim> Webbmaster: is still beta ;)
[10:50] <hnet> holaaaaa
[10:50] <Webbmaster> nosrednaekim: i know
[10:50] <Daisuke_Ido> why?
[10:50] <Webbmaster> but i had no kicker!!!!
[10:50] <nosrednaekim> Ace_NoOne: is yakuake running?
[10:51] <nosrednaekim> Webbmaster: yeah... lol. thats fixed in beta 3 (or will be)
[10:51] <Ace_NoOne> nosrednaekim: yes
[10:51] <sven_oostenbrink> Hi there, I have kubuntu on my Dell latitude D620 laptop, Im quite a heavy user, I run compiz, gaim, amarok, xchat, kmail, firefox with 20 pages, eclipse editor, skype, and a bunch of other programs. So far, so good.. Now, every now and then I have misterious X crashes, where X restarts, or hangups where  i only see blinking ascii characters.. This usually only happens when I install software with Adept manager.. the laptop is very hot at those m
[10:51] <sven_oostenbrink> oments, could it be malfunction becuase of overheating?
[10:51] <Webbmaster> nosrednaekim: ahh, when can i get that in gutsy repos?
[10:51] <Webbmaster> or is there antoher repo i can use?
[10:52] <nosrednaekim> Webbmaster: it shoudl be released in about a week
[10:52] <nosrednaekim> its will be in gutsy, eys
[10:52] <nosrednaekim> *yes
[10:52] <nosrednaekim> sven_oostenbrink: could be...
[10:52] <jeri> hi everyone!
[10:53] <Les_Caesars>  I recently installed kicker/kickoff, and it works great! But it's missing an important functionality feature. It does not display my recent applications
[10:53] <nosrednaekim> sven_oostenbrink: set some powermanagement to make it run at a lower frequency at that time.
[10:53] <Les_Caesars> jeri: hi
[10:53] <jeri> i finally got my amarok to play mp3s!now i need to figure k3b to support mp3 so i can burn em down!
[10:53] <hnet> Hi, I can't install Ubuntu nor Kubuntu on a compaq presario F564LA, I think because of a conflict with WiFi card BROADCOM. Anyone can help???
[10:53] <nosrednaekim> Les_Caesars: kicker and kickoff are two different things
[10:53] <sven_oostenbrink> nosrednaekim, at that time? how do you mean that?
[10:53] <jeri> how do i do that?
[10:53] <sven_oostenbrink> Is there a way I can read out the CPU temp?
[10:54] <Les_Caesars> nosrednaekim: erm. ok. What's the one which  also happens to be the SUSE KDE menu?
[10:54] <nosrednaekim> sven_oostenbrink: yeah.. its called "sensors"
[10:54] <nosrednaekim> !sensors
[10:54] <ubotu> You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[10:54] <nosrednaekim> Les_Caesars: kickoff... ok
[10:54] <Daisuke_Ido> Les_Caesars: kickoff
[10:54] <Les_Caesars> ok. Well, I'm having a kickoff problem
[10:54] <Daisuke_Ido> !info kickoff
[10:54] <ubotu> Package kickoff does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[10:54] <nosrednaekim> yeah it does..
[10:54] <nosrednaekim> !find kickoff
[10:55] <Les_Caesars> I did it third-party anyway.
[10:55] <ubotu> Package/file kickoff does not exist in feisty
[10:55] <Daisuke_Ido> oh.  then you're not supported, and you've voided your warranty, so even if you have a hardware malfunction that has nothing to do with software, we cannot help you.
[10:55] <Daisuke_Ido> :D
[10:55] <Daisuke_Ido> just kidding
[10:55] <Les_Caesars> :P
[10:56] <sven_oostenbrink> nosrednaekim, but what I understood is that you can lower CPU freq when I run certain programs? correct?
[10:56] <nosrednaekim> !windows attitude | Daisuke_Ido
[10:56] <nosrednaekim> sven_oostenbrink: yeah, do it from the powermanager...
[10:56] <trickel_> is anybody here how can spek german
[10:56] <nosrednaekim> !de
[10:56] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:56] <Daisuke_Ido> nosrednaekim: that's not windows attitude, that's OEM attitude :)
[10:56] <nosrednaekim> heh
[10:58] <sven_oostenbrink> nosrednaekim, sorry... :) where is the powermanager?
[10:59] <nosrednaekim> sven_oostenbrink: it should be on the panel, a green battery looking thing.
[10:59] <jeri> wa do i need 4 my k3b to support mp3
[10:59] <nosrednaekim> if you have a laptop.
[10:59] <bazhang> jeri: lame
[10:59] <nosrednaekim> jeri: for if you wanted to burn an MP3
[10:59] <jeri> sorri im just new here
[11:00] <Daisuke_Ido> bazhang: calling names isn't very nice
[11:00] <emilsedgh> jeri: search k3b in adept, there is something like libk3b-mp3, install ir
[11:00] <emilsedgh> it*
[11:00] <bazhang> jeri: do you know how to add software?
[11:00] <sven_oostenbrink> nosrednaekim, ah, you mean like.. set the policy manually? Ithought that you meant like that I can specify in a configuration that when program X is running, then lower the CPU freq...
[11:00] <bazhang> Daisuke_Ido: sorry, I meant the lame mp3 package.
[11:00] <jeri> kind of sudo apt-get install
[11:00] <Daisuke_Ido> bazhang: i know :P
[11:00] <nosrednaekim> sven_oostenbrink: i'm sure its possible to do that... but it'd take some scripting work ;)
[11:00] <bazhang> jeri: then you are set.
[11:00] <Ace_NoOne> for the life of me, I can't figure out how to reconfigure Yakuake
[11:01] <bazhang> Daisuke_Ido: ok phew. I'd hate to piss you off...
[11:01] <Daisuke_Ido> but it's the libk3b2-mp3 package (or something similar)
[11:01] <Daisuke_Ido> Ace_NoOne: can you get it open at all?
[11:01] <Daisuke_Ido> or can you not get it open because alt+space opens katapult?
[11:01] <Ace_NoOne> Daisuke_Ido: not since I changed the keyboard shortcut to ALT+SPACE
[11:01] <Ace_NoOne> exactly
[11:01] <Daisuke_Ido> here's a wild suggestion
[11:01] <nosrednaekim> Ace_NoOne: uninstall katapult
[11:01] <Daisuke_Ido> bear with me
[11:01] <Daisuke_Ido> no
[11:01] <jeri> ok thx
[11:02] <Daisuke_Ido> just change katapult's keybinding temporarily!
[11:02] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Ido: don't tell me NO!!!
[11:02] <tetreaul> !katapult
[11:02] <ubotu> katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[11:02] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Ido: we tried that...
[11:02] <Daisuke_Ido> ouch
[11:02] <Ace_NoOne> Daisuke_Ido: I have no idea how...
[11:02] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[11:02] <Ace_NoOne> (KDE nub, remember ;) )
[11:02] <Daisuke_Ido> Ace_NoOne: uninstall katapult
[11:02] <Ace_NoOne> D:
[11:02] <Daisuke_Ido> then reinstall it after you fix yakuake...
[11:02] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Ido: just to be clear.. I was kidding ;)
[11:02] <Daisuke_Ido> turn that frown upside down!
[11:03] <Ace_NoOne> heh ok
[11:03] <Daisuke_Ido> nosrednaekim: i wasn't :)
[11:05] <DaSkreech> Ace_NoOne: Did you change the keyoard shortcut for katapult?
[11:05] <Ace_NoOne> Daisuke_Ido: got it now
[11:05] <DaSkreech> Thats a conflict
[11:05] <Ace_NoOne> I killed Katapult
[11:06] <Ace_NoOne> then could access Yakuake again
[11:06] <Ace_NoOne> so no need to uninstall
[11:06] <DaSkreech> Ace_NoOne: ok reset the one for yakuake to something
[11:06] <Ace_NoOne> just did :)
[11:06] <apollo2011> I just rebooted and now my mouse is clearly more sensitive than it used to be. I am on KDE and the setting for acceleration is still the same, as low as it will go (1x). Is there some other setting in X, KDE, etc that could be changing my mouse's sensitivity/acceleration?
[11:06] <DaSkreech>  run katapult press alt+space -> Ctrl+C -> G -> set the command o something other than alt +Space
[11:06] <DaSkreech> set back yakuake ot alt+Space
[11:07] <Ace_NoOne> thanks people, now I'm all set
[11:07] <Les_Caesars> ok. KDE and openSUSE both gave me the finger when I asked how to fix my kickoff problem.  How to I get recent applications to work?
[11:07] <trevor> Hey, anyone know anything about alsa mixer on kubuntu with an acer laptop>
[11:07] <trevor> ?
[11:07] <nosrednaekim> trevor: which one..
[11:07] <BluesKaj> apollo2011, system settings/keyboard & mouse
[11:07] <trevor> Acer Aspire 5050...
[11:08] <nosrednaekim> trevor: deja vu.. lol.I have the same one.
[11:08] <nosrednaekim> trevor: what exactly is the problem?
[11:08] <DaSkreech> Bye!
[11:08] <trevor> Nice!  Well, I'm showing off ubuntu distros to a friend, so I'll be back in a few...
[11:08] <trevor> Thanks!
[11:08] <bazhang> bye!
[11:09] <apollo2011> BluesKaj: Yeah, I have gone into those settings and they are as I set them up. The only one that would really affect the sensitivity is the acceleration, which is set a 1x, as low as it will go...
[11:09] <nosrednaekim> trevor: k.. I might not be around though... jst a second, let me get you a link, K?
[11:09] <Daisuke_Ido> trevor: bring them into the light!  escape the clutches of the evil Darth Ballmer!
[11:10] <nosrednaekim> trevor: http://nosrednaekim.wordpress.com/2007/05/28/linux-on-the-acer-aspire-5050/
[11:10] <bazhang> hahaha
[11:10] <nosrednaekim> written by yours truly
[11:10] <BluesKaj> Les_Caesars, did you install kickoff
[11:10] <BluesKaj> ?
[11:10] <Vermux> why dictionary.com dowsnt work with firefox?
[11:10] <apollo2011> BluesKaj: In addition, modifying that value doesn't seem to change how sensitive the mouse for better or worse. As if another setting somewhere is setting the behavior of the mouse
[11:10] <Les_Caesars> BluesKaj: yes. It works 95% But the last 5% is a really important component.
[11:11] <Les_Caesars> BluesKaj: recent documents works, but not recent applications
[11:11] <trevor> nice...
[11:11] <BluesKaj> what last 5% ?
[11:11] <BluesKaj> oh
[11:11] <Les_Caesars> they're in the same tab. But it's blank for recent apps
[11:11] <Vermux> \?
[11:12] <BluesKaj> i haven't used kickoff in a while , gonna check
[11:12] <Daisuke_Ido> have you used apps since installing kickoff?
[11:12] <Daisuke_Ido> just sayin...
[11:13] <bazhang> bye!
[11:13] <nosrednaekim> c ya bazhang
[11:13] <Vermux> does anybody know why firefox doesnt display disctionary.com results?
[11:13] <Les_Caesars> Daisuke_Ido: heh, funny. But unfortunately, yes. It truly isn't working
[11:14] <Les_Caesars> Vermux: robots.txt? Just a guess
[11:14] <Vermux> Les_Caesars: what is it?
[11:15] <Les_Caesars> Vermux: please don't take my answer seriously. But FYI, robots.txt is just a file that websites can have, which asks crawlers to overlook them. Some obey, and some don't. web.archive.org obeys robots.txt. I'm not sure whether google does or not. Presumably, yes
[11:15] <Vermux> Les_Caesars: it displays results but after long time of waiting
[11:16] <Les_Caesars> Vermux: hm. inefficient index? No idea
[11:17] <Vermux> Les_Caesars: what crawlers?
[11:17] <uga> Vermux: possibly it takes some time until firefox loads its own kernel, boots up services, starts up the login manager and desktop environment and the X compatible graphics server =)
[11:17] <Vermux> Les_Caesars: what are these words- I have no idea what do u mean
[11:18] <uga> Vermux: FirefOS
[11:19] <Vermux> uga:  sorry, but Im new in this thing: kubuntu and linux
[11:19] <NickPresta> Les_Caesars, any of the important search engines, Yahoo, MSN, Google, Archive.org, etc will obey your robots.txt. That isn't to say it's a replacement for denying access from crawlers and such in your httpd.conf file either...
[11:19] <uga> Vermux: it's a joke... firefox is almost an operating system on its own... too much bloat =)
[11:20] <uga> Vermux: have you tried using konqueror instead?
[11:20] <uga> or opera
[11:21] <Vermux> uga:  now I got the joke :)
[11:21] <Vermux> uga: so firefox is very slow?
[11:21] <uga> it was meant to be lighter than mozilla, but it seems to be going the same way
[11:21] <NickPresta> Vermux, it's hardly "slow" but there are leaner browsers available
[11:22] <Les_Caesars> Vermux: Crawlers. They're what "crawls" around the internet, exploring. While they look at the content, they organize it in what's called an "index," which is what makes search engines good at finding things in the internet. (To everyone else, please excuse my layman's speech)
[11:23] <BluesKaj> spiders
[11:24] <Les_Caesars> hm. Hey,  I still don't know what to do about my kickoff. Does anyone know what to do?
[11:24] <Vermux> Les_Caesars: now you are writing in my language- thanks
[11:24] <Vermux> Les_Caesars: so spiders=crawlers?
[11:25] <ernesto> Hi, I need somebody who169.254.4.95 me
[11:25] <ernesto> Im new
[11:25] <poison--> !beryl
[11:25] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:25] <borrer> hello,  who can help me ? I have installed kubuntu 7.04 on ASUS m2v-mx with integrated VIDEO (VIA Chrome9), and I cant start on graphics mod.
[11:25] <ernesto> I need to Install my Wi-Fi card
[11:25] <poison--> borrer, start with recovery mode and edit grup
[11:25] <Vermux> NickPresta: why using leaner browser?
[11:25] <poison--> grub*
[11:26] <poison--> !ndiswrapper
[11:26] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:26] <Les_Caesars> Vermux: I would imagine. But I -really- don't know a lot about search engines. I just have the average person's understanding of the topic.
[11:26] <borrer> problem not in grub, vesa drivers cant be loaded
[11:27] <Les_Caesars> Vermux: it's like you're getting a lesson about life from a 9 year old
[11:27] <Vermux> uga: firefox is different than mozilla?
[11:28] <uga> Vermux: firefox is based on mozilla, it was made lighter, and given they removed parts like e-mail and others from it, it was lighter
[11:28] <uga> but then... it's growing again
[11:28] <uga> Vermux: much heavier when you compare it to others like opera or konqueror
[11:28] <borrer> poison: i mean that cant start xorg
[11:29] <pippo> coreymon77
[11:29] <Vermux> uga: with konqueror I cannot read my gmail
[11:29] <pippo> coreymon77: U can't belive me... the error was in windows and in my laptop
[11:29] <uga> Vermux: you can. Or at least I can, here
[11:30] <pippo> coreymon77: wireless was disabled from the acer windows utility, and now wireless is right!!!!
[11:30] <borrer> who can help me ? I have installed kubuntu 7.04 on ASUS m2v-mx with integrated VIDEO (VIA Chrome9), and xorg cant start.
[11:31] <Vermux> uga: it doesnt display anything
[11:32] <poison--> !compiz
[11:32] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:32] <uga> Vermux: uhm... I juts entered. Maybe it's a bug in the feisty version. Gutsy here
[11:33] <uga> Vermux: even in feisty I was using newer kde packs, so it worked iirc
[11:33] <Vermux> uga: where do I c which version of ubuntu I am using|?
[11:33] <borrer> who can help me ? I have installed kubuntu 7.04 on ASUS m2v-mx with integrated VIDEO (VIA Chrome9), and xorg cant start.
[11:35] <Vermux> uga: now gmail doesnt display anything with qunqueror- I tried to change the html setting
[11:36] <uga> Vermux: type: lsb_release -a
[11:36] <uga> Vermux: heh, just use the html setting =)
[11:37] <hangthedj> can someone tell me how to untar something into a specific directory?
[11:37] <Vermux> where do I type it?
[11:37] <Vermux> uga:
[11:38] <Vermux> uga:  now it gives me this error:
[11:38] <Vermux> An error occurred while loading http://www.gmail.com/:
[11:38] <Vermux> Timeout on server
[11:38] <Vermux>  Connection was to www.google.com at port 443
[11:38] <coreymon77> pippo: huh? wireless works now?
[11:39] <pippo> yaaaaaaaaaaa
[11:39] <uga> Vermux: that's got nothing to do with konqueror, in theory
[11:39] <coreymon77> pippo: thats great
[11:39] <pippo> coreymon77: an error in windows, an applett windows can disable wireless from bios
[11:39] <uga> Vermux: it's a failure to open port 443 (https)
[11:40] <coreymon77> pippo: thats windows for ya!
[11:40] <pippo> coreymon77: I thanks you so much for all time, I would like to offer a beer :)
[11:40] <uga> Vermux: try on the command line: telnet www.google.com 443
[11:40] <uga> Vermux: does it open immediately?
[11:40] <coreymon77> huh?
[11:40] <pippo> coreymon77: :)
[11:40] <poison--> !pt
[11:40] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[11:41] <Vermux> I just opened it with ff. it works fine with it
[11:41] <pippo> thanks again
[11:41] <uga> Vermux: it may not be doing the same process for firefox
[11:41] <coreymon77> no problem
[11:41] <uga> Vermux: anyway, you can change the browser id in konqueror to firefox 1.5 and try
[11:41] <Vermux> uga: how do I open the cmd?
[11:42] <uga> Vermux: alt+f2  and type... konsole
[11:42] <LjL> !shortcut
[11:42] <ubotu> keyboard shortcuts can be set in K -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse. Try also "Input Actions" in KControl. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys - See !Keyboard for changing layouts
[11:43] <uga> uhm... lets see how much ubotu knows about...
[11:43] <uga> !photography
[11:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about photography - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:43] <uga> shasme
[11:43] <uga> shame
[11:43] <Vermux> uga: it says "connection closed by forign host
[11:43] <uga> Vermux: you should see....
[11:43] <uga> Trying 64.233.183.104...
[11:43] <uga> Connected to www.l.google.com.
[11:43] <uga> Escape character is '^] '.
[11:44] <Vermux> uga: yes that what I c
[11:44] <MS-Suse> if i specify a burning speed in growisofs is it going to overwrite the burners default burning speed for a given media? 4x instead of 2x
[11:44] <Vermux> and what I wrote too
[11:44] <uga> Vermux: connection closed only if you type in something
[11:44] <Vermux> uga:  I didnt type
[11:44] <uga> Vermux: then it's strange. The socket should remain open
[11:45] <uga> at least for a while
[11:45] <uga> Vermux: it hasn't closed connection here, yet
[11:45] <Vermux> uga:  I tried again, it is still "trying..."
[11:46] <uga> okay, that explains why konqueror times out
[11:46] <uga> it cannot achieve a connection
[11:46] <Vermux> uga: ok- and waht is the reason?
[11:46] <uga> Vermux: ISP maybe
[11:46] <uga> I can't tell for sure
[11:47] <Vermux> uga: before it happaned, I changed the html setting in conquerer to standard without chat. now I changed it back to standard with chat
[11:47] <uga> Vermux: try 66.249.91.103
[11:47] <uga> instead of www.google.com
[11:47] <Vermux> uga: but it worked before- just I couldnt read anything because of the garbage
[11:47] <uga> uhm
[11:48] <pippo> notte
[11:51] <parsnip> lo each#
[11:51] <Vermux> uga:  it displays:Connection closed by foreign host.
[11:52] <parsnip> does anyone have the kde4 beta installed?
[11:56] <Vermux> uga: I tried the ip u gave me, it displays:Trying 66.249.91.103...
[11:56] <uga> Vermux: that's what www.google.com resolves to, here
[11:56] <astan> anyone know a program in *verse somewhere in which i can just open a mpeg4 movie and do some simple editing (just cut/paste, fade in/out, and some text)..?
[11:57] <Vermux> it is still trying
[11:57] <astan> kino won't load my .avi.. :/
[11:57] <Vermux> do u think I should reboot?
[11:57] <uga> Vermux: rather than reboot, try to get another IP address, if your ip is dynamic?
[11:57] <Vermux> uga: and how do I do that
[11:58] <uga> Vermux: does your ISP offer you a fixed (static) IP address?
[11:58] <uga> if not, usually on each adsl modem reconnection, you'll get a new IP address
[11:58] <uga> unless your ISP caches it
[11:58] <Vermux> uga: it isstatic
[11:58] <uga> uhnm, then you can't
[11:59] <uga> maybe through an online proxy... a second
[11:59] <waylandbill_> uga: you'd have to have the dsl modem off for a while. I think they've got a good sized TTL for the MAC.
[11:59] <Vermux> uga: but how can it be. fire fox works fine with gmail
[12:00] <Vermux> waylandbill_: what?
[12:00] <uga> Vermux: it may be that firefox isn't directed to the same address. As I said, you could try changing the browser ID in the konqueror settings
[12:00] <uga> waylandbill_: depends on the ISP
[12:00] <uga> waylandbill_: I've seen ISPs giving a completely different IP on each restart of hte modem
[12:01] <Vermux> uga: now it is working suddenlt
[12:01] <Vermux> suddenly
[12:01] <uga> lol
[12:01] <uga> I scared google when I mentioned the word "proxy" ;)
[12:01] <waylandbill_> uga: that would use up alot of addresses needlessly, but I don't doubt it with some providers.
[12:01] <Vermux> uga:  by working I mean, displaying all that garbage
[12:02] <uga> waylandbill_: it's nice though, when you get an IP address of somebody that has been doing lots of *muleing
[12:02] <uga> and you get stupid icmps all over the place
[12:02] <uga> Vermux: just wait for gutsy to be out,... =(
[12:03] <Vermux> uga: ok, I changed the identification to firefox 1.5 - it is the same
[12:03] <Vermux> uga: so u r implying that Gusty is betteR?
[12:04] <uga> Vermux: I'm just saying I can read gmail from konqui in gutsy ;)
[12:05] <uga> waylandbill_: btw, giving away another IP address doesn't increase the amount of IP addresses being used
[12:05] <uga> waylandbill_: as soon as the modem restarts and does a dhcp broadcast with the MAC address, they know the IP address associated to that MAC is free again
[12:05] <uga> and it's reused
[12:06] <uga> for somebody else
[12:06] <Vermux> uga: I changed it to firefox 1.5- still doesnt work. any ideea?
[12:06] <waylandbill_> uga: if it restarts. If it has a momentary lapse of service, it's not the same thing, but it's drifting off target a little.
[12:07] <uga> Vermux: not really
[12:07] <_Tudor_> Hello
[12:07] <BluesKaj> yeah konq browser ID has to be configged to FF 1.5 to render gmail and yahoo pages properly , altho the back button freezes up rather than returning the page on gmail
[12:08] <nosrednaekim> hello _Tudor_
[12:08] <uga> waylandbill_: not sure what you mean... there's a lapse of service. then a new IP lease is requested. You're given a new IP. But as soon as you are given a new one, the old one is free
[12:09] <_Tudor_> How are you?
[12:10] <waylandbill_> uga: nah. there's a timeout before the ip can be reused. Could be short, but it's not instantaneous.
[12:10] <uga> waylandbill_: a few seconds maybe, yup, until the dhcp server updates the DB
[12:10] <Vermux> BluesKaj: I changed it to firefox 1.5- but it has the same problem. cannot read gmail
[12:11] <uga> waylandbill_: it could well be a roundrobin list. Nobody would notice
[12:11] <Vermux> uga: does cable modem also broadcasts its MAC address?
[12:11] <nosrednaekim> _Tudor_: very good
[12:11] <uga> Vermux: afaik, yes. But I'm not trained in adsl lines
[12:12] <waylandbill_> uga: all nic interfaces have to provide a mac address. It's part of the protocol. Could be modified by a NAT or router though.
[12:13] <Zelut> nosrednaekim: thanks for the invite you left at ubuntu-tutorials
[12:14] <nosrednaekim> Zelut: hey.. good to see ya
[12:14] <uga> waylandbill_: heh, thanks. I don't know much about ppp and similars. Just normal ethernet osi levels ;)
[12:14] <uga> and something about modulation etc, but not about specific protocols
[12:14] <Vermux> uga:  waht is afaik?
[12:14] <uga> Vermux:  as far as I know
[12:14] <nosrednaekim> Zelut: I have been using kubuntu for a year, tried ubuntu for a week, and couldn't stand gnome ;) so I know how you must feel right now.
[12:15] <Vermux> Iug I meant cable modem not dsl modem
[12:15] <kilrae> does anybody know of a way to automatically set the umask for a single ext2 file system?
[12:15] <Zelut> nosrednaekim: I'm finding things that I really like (katapult and klipper + actions) and others that are driving me crazy, like Konqueror
[12:16] <nosrednaekim> Zelut: Konqueror as a web browser quite frankly sucks...
[12:16] <nosrednaekim> I use firefox
[12:16] <nosrednaekim> Zelut: don't feel bad if you do that.
[12:16] <Vermux> uga:  I meant cable modem not adsl modem
[12:16] <kilrae> and don't forget to disable the gnome file picker in about: config
[12:16] <uga> nosrednaekim: most sites work from konqueror nowadays. Maybe you should get more deep into that "sucks" definition
[12:17] <uga> nosrednaekim: and actually some sites that dont' work on firefox, do work on konqueror. Funny, ain't it =)
[12:17] <uga> Vermux: they should all be similar...
[12:17] <nosrednaekim> uga: slow on my dial-up, flash only works half the time. not as many good plugins, the list goes on.
[12:17] <nosrednaekim> half the time pages time-out
[12:18] <kilrae> so nobody has any thoughts on the umask deally?
[12:18] <uga> nosrednaekim: flash always works here on konqueror, even on 64bit, and... sorry, half the plugins (kio) that exist for konqueror are unavailable for firefox
[12:18] <uga> nosrednaekim: try doing fish:// with firefox
[12:18] <nosrednaekim> uga:  thats not a web browser thing, its filemanagement.
[12:18] <kilrae> why would you want to do file transfers in your web browser?
[12:19] <uga> nosrednaekim: sorry to say... fish is networking
[12:19] <kilrae> why would you want to do networking in your web browser?
[12:19] <nosrednaekim> uga:  ANYWAY... I don't like it.. and I have heard ALOT of complaints.
[12:19] <Vermux> nosrednaekim: so u r suggesting to broese only with firefox. I cannot read gmail with qq
[12:19] <uga> kilrae: now reread your question and you'll know it's silly
[12:19] <uga> nosrednaekim: that's okay. "sucks" isn't
[12:19] <kilrae> you know what i mean :P
[12:19] <nosrednaekim> Vermux: whatever works for you, Konqueror doesn't work for me.
[12:20] <nosrednaekim> uga: k
[12:20] <uga> kilrae: most the "plugins" he mentions are "networking" stuff too
[12:20] <kilrae> actually, i think he means extensions
[12:20] <uga> kilrae: such as?
[12:20] <kilrae> adblock
[12:20] <Vermux> nosrednaekim: for me too
[12:20] <uga> kilrae: there's adblock for konqueror...
[12:20] <kilrae> of course since flash doesn't work in konqi you don't need adblock :)
[12:20] <nosrednaekim> !ot
[12:20] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[12:21] <nosrednaekim> Zelut: ANYWAY ;)
[12:21] <uga> kilrae: you're completely wrong for the 2nd time
[12:21] <kilrae> alright, umask\
[12:21] <kilrae> anybody?
[12:21] <kilrae> that's on topic-ish
[12:21] <Vermux> nosrednaekim:  however, citicards.com doesnt work for me with firefox? any idea?
[12:21] <uga> kilrae: settings->configure konqueror->adblock filters
[12:21] <BluesKaj> !info adblock
[12:21] <ubotu> Package adblock does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[12:21] <nosrednaekim> Vermux: probably an IE only site;)
[12:21] <uga> kilrae: why do people say "foo", when they mean "I don't even know"
[12:22] <kilrae> because foo is only one syllable?
[12:22] <Vermux> nosrednaekim: what do u mean by IE only site?? how can it be?
[12:22] <uga> yeah, just like "sucks", I guess
[12:22] <kilrae> there ya go
[12:22] <uga> kilrae: well, next time say "rocks" and "test"
[12:22] <uga> both short
[12:22] <kilrae> the katrina victims support page was IE only
[12:22] <nosrednaekim> Vermux: they do it.... thats all I know.
[12:23] <Vermux> nosrednaekim: how do I verify it ?
[12:23] <kilrae> if you had a mac, you couldn't get government aid
[12:23] <nosrednaekim> Vermux: send a nice email to the people.
[12:23] <uga> Vermux: uhm... what's your kde version? (help->about kde, in konqueror for example)
[12:24] <nosrednaekim> Zelut: any problems with Kubuntu other than konqueror?
[12:24] <uga> Vermux: iirc there was an unofficial repository for newer kde packs by an ubuntu maintainer
[12:24] <uga> Vermux: yes, there: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php
[12:24] <nosrednaekim> backports?
[12:25] <uga> Vermux: unless it's 3.5.7, you can update your packages from there, without installing gutsy
[12:25] <uga> nosrednaekim: not exactly a backport
[12:25] <Vermux> uga:  how do I check the version?
[12:25] <uga> Vermux: open konqueror: help->about kde
[12:26] <Vermux> uga: 3.5.6
[12:26] <uga> you could give it an upgrade following the instructions on that url
[12:26] <uga> 3.5.7 is the version in gutsy
[12:26] <Vermux> I will try
[12:27] <uga> I can read gmail just fine without setting the browser ID, here
[12:27] <uga> in html mode
[12:27] <uga> no trashing nor garbage
[12:28] <Vermux> uga:  but it says security updates wont be applied
[12:28] <Zelut> nosrednaekim: besides the half-dozen bugs I submitted that I had in the post? :)
[12:28] <maximus121> hi
[12:28] <maximus121> algum tuga por ai
[12:28] <uga> Vermux: I'm not sure if I've read about any security updates in 3.5.7...
[12:28] <nosrednaekim> Zelut: lol...
[12:28] <uga> Vermux: else they'd release 3.5.8 soon?
[12:28] <nosrednaekim> !es
[12:28] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:28] <uga> nosrednaekim: that's not spanish
[12:28] <nosrednaekim> Zelut: you have a macbook?
[12:29] <nosrednaekim> uga: portuguese?
[12:29] <nosrednaekim> italian?
[12:29] <maximus121> yes
[12:29] <uga> nosrednaekim: maybe portuguese, not sure. but definetely not spanish ;)
[12:29] <Vermux> uga: ok, I'll try to install it tomorrow
[12:29] <uga> !pt | maximus121
[12:29] <ubotu> maximus121: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[12:29] <Vermux> uga: anyway, thanks for all the help.
[12:29] <nosrednaekim> uga: its all Latin to me ;)
[12:29] <Zelut> nosrednaekim: I do.  I'm a glutton for alpha/beta/pioneer punishment
[12:30] <uga> Vermux: I used it while I was in feisty. Worked fine. And riddell is trustworthy ;)
[12:30] <uga> Vermux: else you could migrate to gutsy soon, anyway
[12:31] <Vermux> uga: riddel\?
[12:31] <nosrednaekim> Zelut: hehe... I did it because it made this laptop work much much better. sound all works and Wireless is a snap.
[12:31] <Vermux> !riddell
[12:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about riddell - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:31] <uga> Vermux: check the announcement. He's mentioned
[12:31] <uga> Vermux: and he's on the channel, so don't wake him up by writing the nick ;)
[12:31] <Vermux> uga: ok, the security signuture
[12:32] <Zelut> nosrednaekim: it appears that wireless is still buggy on this machine outside of ndiswrapper unfortunately
[12:32] <nosrednaekim> Zelut: is it atheros?
[12:32] <nosrednaekim> most macs are.
[12:32] <Vermux> uga: thanks uga. will continue tomorrow
[12:33] <Zelut> nosrednaekim: yes, but the second gen C2D I have has a firmware upgrade supporting a/b/g/n, which breaks the madwifi
[12:33] <Zelut> nosrednaekim: building from the current madwifi trunk will work, but doesn't have the same speed as ndiswrapper.
[12:34] <nosrednaekim> Zelut: ah...I see.
[12:34] <Zelut> nosrednaekim: normally I'm not a fan of the binary blobs ("it makes baby jesus cry" as they say), but you've got to draw the line somewhere
[12:34] <code_x> hi i has anyone here ever installing perl DBD::ODBC, iam getting errors, advice will be appreciated
[12:36] <nosrednaekim> Zelut: indeed, I used ndiswrapper b4 gutsy. I tried for 3 weeks to get madwifi working.diagnosed it as trasmit errors. then I just gave up.
[12:36] <NickPresta> code_x, which errors? More information allows people to help you better and faster
[12:37] <UsThEre> hi all!
[12:37] <NickPresta> !hi | UsThEre
[12:37] <ubotu> UsThEre: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[12:37] <Zelut> nosrednaekim: I've got a whole long-list of kubuntu questions if ya'll have time.
[12:37] <nosrednaekim> NickPresta: just hi would probably be easier ;)
[12:38] <nosrednaekim> Zelut: fire away
[12:38] <UsThEre> ehehe i too
[12:39] <Zelut> nosrednaekim: any equivalent to gnome-open in KDE? When I was unsure the app to use to open a file I'd use gnome-open, the swiss-army knife tool as I call it.
[12:39] <code_x> first i installed unixodbc and freetds, now when i try installing DBD::ODBC i get the following error "You need to indicate where your ODBC Driver Manager is installed"