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| osmosis | zul: yah, i was missing the hypervisor package, which was blocking update-grub of course. Now im booted on gutsy amd64 xen. | 02:43 |
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| zul | sweet.. | 02:44 |
| zul | ill try to get an amd64-server package this weekend | 02:44 |
| osmosis | zul: im gonna try and stay with gutsy for a bit. See how stable it is. | 02:44 |
| zul | osmosis: sure | 02:44 |
| osmosis | zul: just watch out for the xenman package...it installs a world of gnome. | 02:45 |
| osmosis | gotta go, talk to you later | 02:46 |
| zul | hah hah leafs suck | 02:56 |
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| lifeless | ooh shiny new ipw2200 patch | 05:36 |
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| tzanger | good evening... can someone tell me where I might up-to-date information on how udev works? /sbin/hotplug isn't the way anymore, but that's how the udev documentation says it is :-( | 06:24 |
| mdomsch | tzanger, there's a udevd that listens on a netlink socket for the kernel to send messages on events | 06:31 |
| tzanger | hmm | 06:32 |
| tzanger | is there any good documentation about it? | 06:33 |
| tzanger | http://www.mythic-beasts.com/~mark/random/hal/ | 06:37 |
| tzanger | that's about the best I've found so far | 06:37 |
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| mdomsch | the udev docs themselves and manpages are pretty good | 06:38 |
| mdomsch | and the authors are good at responding to good questions by email to linux-hotplug-devel@lists.sourceforge.net | 06:39 |
| tzanger | actually the udev docs are out of date as far as I can tell | 06:39 |
| tzanger | the ones off of kernel.org anyway | 06:39 |
| tzanger | http://vrfy.org/log/recent-state-of-udev.html | 06:39 |
| tzanger | there we go, from the man who wrote udevd | 06:39 |
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| kraut | moin | 08:46 |
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| mantiena-baltix | hi all | 04:07 |
| mantiena-baltix | Did someone noticed, that I/O in Gutsy LiveCD works really slower than in Feisty's ? I think it's squashfs bugs, but I'm not 100% sure | 04:15 |
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| timbba | Hey again... :) | 04:16 |
| timbba | I was here... was it yesterday or day before? But anyway: about the issue of usb after suspend.. | 04:17 |
| timbba | I bought wlan usb stick and that one works after suspend, but not the usb receiver of wireless combo keyboard/mouse | 04:18 |
| timbba | Ok.. so something is maybe weird about those inputs after suspend? | 04:18 |
| timbba | Does anyone know any trick what might be tried to refresh the input devices after suspend? | 04:19 |
| timbba | I think nobody even remember, what I was talking about earlier... so briefly: my wireless usb keyboard/mouse doesn't work after suspend.. The only way to get it working is to take the receiver from usb port and replug it | 04:21 |
| timbba | Am I here all alone talking :)? | 04:21 |
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| sbalneav | Hello all | 04:23 |
| sbalneav | Im doing gutsy development, and I'm running into a real show stopper issue. ogra sugegsted posting here. | 04:24 |
| sbalneav | My workstations are VIA EDEN EPIA 5000 mobos, 550mhz, 512 meg of ram. | 04:25 |
| sbalneav | I'm getting intermittent USB mouse dropouts | 04:25 |
| sbalneav | optical mice. | 04:25 |
| sbalneav | User's functioning normally, then: | 04:25 |
| sbalneav | light goes out on the mouse. | 04:25 |
| sbalneav | dmesg keeps reporting: | 04:26 |
| sbalneav | usb 1-1: device descriptor read/64, error -110 | 04:26 |
| sbalneav | unplugging and re-plugging mouse doesn't fixit | 04:26 |
| sbalneav | restarting udev doesn't fix it | 04:26 |
| sbalneav | manually rmmoding usb-core and the hid drivers doesn't fix it. | 04:27 |
| sbalneav | Any ideas? | 04:27 |
| sbalneav | latest gutsy kernel, btw | 04:27 |
| zul | modprobe -r ehci-hci? | 04:28 |
| timbba | Yuhuu? Any ideas for my bug? | 04:28 |
| zul | sbalneav: you might want to try usbmon to see whats happening as well | 04:29 |
| timbba | Hey come on guys, I know that you are more skillful than I am.. some suggestions at least? :) | 04:31 |
| sbalneav | ok | 04:31 |
| sbalneav | I'll go and see if I can get a failure to occur | 04:32 |
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| timbba | Noone? | 04:36 |
| timbba | oh.. I'm little disappointed that noone is not even answering anything.. | 04:39 |
| zul | timbba: most kernel-devs are getting things for release so they are a little busy | 04:40 |
| timbba | ok :) | 04:40 |
| zul | so either wait patiently for an answer of come back later | 04:42 |
| zul | or best bet to get support go to #ubuntu | 04:42 |
| timbba | ok, I'll try #ubuntu channel.. | 04:42 |
| timbba | too busy in that channel.. so maybe I have to just wait someone to see my post here :) | 04:47 |
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| mikelake | hey all..I'm having this issue of my usb mouse temporarily freezing up for a second or two every minute | 05:32 |
| mikelake | it happens on feisty and I just tried it on the beta releaaaaaaaaaaase of gutsy | 05:33 |
| mikelake | yes, that's another problem - if i'm typing while the usb has its little freeze(i have usb keyboard), whatever letter i'm typing gets repeated for the duration | 05:34 |
| bdmurray | what happened with Gutsy? | 05:35 |
| mikelake | same thing | 05:36 |
| mikelake | it's like something is polling the usb devices every minute | 05:36 |
| mikelake | I think I tried udevmonitor once, and when it came around to that point of pausing, the program output looked like it was removing then adding the device(my keboard) | 05:39 |
| mikelake | bdmurray: I suppose you're brian murray? | 05:40 |
| bdmurray | mikelake: Sure enough | 05:41 |
| mikelake | i'm "mister_lake" in this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/84762 | 05:41 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 84762 in linux-source-2.6.22 "Feisty: usb mouse stops working" [Medium,Triaged] | 05:41 |
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| bdmurray | mikelake: Have you tried the Beta of Gutsy? | 05:44 |
| mikelake | yes, I tried the live cd BETA of gutsy and I still get the same problem | 05:45 |
| mikelake | err wait.. | 05:46 |
| mikelake | I got the daily build live cd from here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20071003/ | 05:47 |
| mikelake | I was going to get this one: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/gutsy/beta/ but I didn't want to download the entire 4 gig dvd | 05:49 |
| mikelake | is the live CD not as up to date as the live DVD ? | 05:49 |
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| bdmurray | The Live CD should be fine. In that bug report you mentioned I was talking about disabling USB autosuspend. I believe that should be disabled in the latest Live CD. | 05:50 |
| mikelake | bdmurray: I saw that in the bug report and I tried it in the live cd, still didn't work | 05:52 |
| cjwatson | yesterday's live CD wasn't up to date at all, due to some internal breakage | 05:53 |
| cjwatson | it was functionally about the same as beta | 05:53 |
| cjwatson | we fixed that this morning | 05:53 |
| bdmurray | I think the usbautosuspend patch should have been in the beta | 05:53 |
| mjg59 | Yes | 05:54 |
| bdmurray | So mikelake we've reached the limit of my knownledge | 05:54 |
| mikelake | bdmurray: here's what I get in the udev http://pastie.caboo.se/103755 | 05:55 |
| mikelake | all those add/removes occur on one "pause" which happens about every minute | 05:55 |
| bdmurray | Right and I saw this in your dmesg: | 05:55 |
| bdmurray | usb 5-2.4: reset low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4 | 05:56 |
| mikelake | so you're sure that's the autosuspend and not gnome-volume-manager or something else polling the USB devices? | 05:57 |
| bdmurray | No, I think we have eliminated autosuspend being the issue and it is something else | 05:58 |
| bdmurray | But what that exact kernel message means I do not know | 05:58 |
| mikelake | what about stuff in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist | 05:59 |
| mikelake | blacklist usbmouse | 05:59 |
| mjg59 | That's the hidbp driver, not the hid driver | 06:00 |
| mikelake | is there some debugging somewhere that I can turn on to get more details? | 06:01 |
| mikelake | or, heh, i don't know if this is absurd or not, but is there possibly a way to grab the Dapper kernel and use it in feisty? (since I didn't have problems with dapper) | 06:02 |
| lamont | mikelake: udev and the kernel tend to want lockstep upgrades... it _MIGHT_ work | 06:03 |
| lamont | I have successfully used a gutsy kernel on dapper machiens | 06:03 |
| lamont | never even considered going the other way | 06:03 |
| mikelake | I'd be willing to try that.. | 06:04 |
| timbba | ok, now there is some talking :) Does anyone know a fix solution for my issue? Also related to usb, but after suspend.. | 06:05 |
| timbba | I'm using Feisty and usb wlan stick works after suspend, but the wireless receiver for keyboard/mouse doesn't... Something maybe related to input devices instead of just usb? | 06:06 |
| bdmurray | timbba: It would be most helpful if you could test with Gutsy. | 06:07 |
| timbba | I have vdr compiled to Feisty so that is not so easy to move to Gutsy or is it? | 06:08 |
| bdmurray | Could you just test using the Live CD? | 06:08 |
| mikelake | bdmurray: just point me in the right direction for getting to get a Dapper kernel - can I just add the dapper repository and select the dapper kernels from synaptic package manager? | 06:09 |
| bdmurray | mikelake: I have no idea how to do that. | 06:09 |
| timbba | Yeah, maybe I can but that doesn't fix the issue.. then I have to do the compilation once again if it works (which is huge procedure)... So is there a fix for Feisty? | 06:10 |
| timbba | By the way: I tested backported Gutsy kernel in Feisty, but that didn't help | 06:11 |
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| timbba | Is there a way to "refresh" input devices with some code? That one can be tried, but I don't know how :) | 06:15 |
| mjg59 | timbba: Have you got a bug number? | 06:15 |
| timbba | because at least those input and event numbers changes after suspend... No I don't have any bug number of that | 06:16 |
| mjg59 | timbba: Ok. Could you file a bug and attach the output of the dmesg command after a suspend? | 06:16 |
| timbba | Ok... I can try, I have never reported bugs :) | 06:18 |
| mjg59 | http://launchpad.net/bugs | 06:19 |
| mjg59 | Click on the "Report a bug" button | 06:19 |
| timbba | Yeah, seems to be quite simple.. I will report a bug, when I can because my girlfriend is using the machine right now (watches television)... I'll get back to you, when the bug is reported. | 06:22 |
| mjg59 | Ok, thanks | 06:23 |
| mantiena-baltix | Did someone noticed, that I/O in Gutsy LiveCD works really slower than in Feisty's ? I think it's squashfs bugs, but I'm not 100% sure | 06:23 |
| mikelake | I'm going to reboot with the old kernel...wish me luck! | 06:28 |
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| mikelake | no dice | 07:03 |
| mikelake | couldn't even run the old kernel got the kernel panic VFS not-syncing thing | 07:04 |
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| Kmos | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/linux/+bug/109705 | 07:18 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 109705 in linux "Lack of included support for xpad (xbox 360 joypad)" [Unknown,Confirmed] | 07:18 |
| Kmos | isn't this on gutsy kernel ? | 07:19 |
| zul | Kmos: yes | 07:20 |
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| bdmurray | What does it mean if someone has to boot with all_generic_ide? | 07:27 |
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| zul | bdmurray: MODULE_PARM_DESC(all_generic_ide, "IDE generic will claim all unknown PCI IDE storage controllers."); | 07:33 |
| bdmurray | zul: So there is not a specific match for the PCI ID of their storage controller then? | 07:34 |
| zul | bdmurray: i dont think so | 07:35 |
| zul | er thats probably correct if you are talking things like sata sil | 07:35 |
| bdmurray | looks like it Silicon Image Sil3112 SATA controller and an Adaptec controller | 07:37 |
| zul | yeah i think saw that bug last night | 07:37 |
| bdmurray | bug 146287 | 07:38 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 146287 in linux-source-2.6.22 "kernel 2.6.22 fails to mount hard drives, drops to busybox" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/146287 | 07:38 |
| Kmos | zul: nice =) | 07:42 |
| zul | bdmurray: when i was looking at it, there isnt anything about the sil3112 in the linux-ide ml last night (ie: patch or anything) | 07:43 |
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| osmosis | zul: so you've seen some xen amd65 oopses ? | 08:29 |
| zul | osmosis: er no | 08:30 |
| osmosis | zul: amd64 even ? | 08:30 |
| zul | not that even :) | 08:30 |
| osmosis | zul: any specific tests you want me to run to test amd64 gutsy xen ? | 08:30 |
| zul | osmosis: please open a bug report in launchpad im at work at the momment if there is an oops | 08:31 |
| zul | or even send me an email | 08:31 |
| osmosis | zul: just making chat | 08:31 |
| zul | osmosis: cant chat right now sorry | 08:31 |
| osmosis | zul: ill let you know if there are any issues | 08:31 |
| zul | ok thanks | 08:31 |
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| zul | muhahaha http://xenbits.xensource.com/paravirt_ops/patches.hg/file/a43ec966d62f/xen-dom0-boot.patch | 09:05 |
| osmosis | zul: whats that | 09:07 |
| zul | dom0 with paravirt-ops xen | 09:07 |
| osmosis | cool | 09:08 |
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| lamont | is someone already fixing the ia64 -13.40 ftbfs? | 10:54 |
| mjg59 | Looks like vesafb was flagged as supporting ia64, which looks wrong | 10:55 |
| kylem | +1 mjg59 | 10:55 |
| Lutin | any chance that somebody can possibly look at bug #129910 ? | 11:04 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 129910 in initramfs-tools "tty[1-6] are active but display nothing in Gutsy" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129910 | 11:04 |
| lamont | mjg59/kylem: let me rephrase that... do I need to make a patch, or is one of you two (or someone else entirely) doing that? | 11:08 |
| kylem | i patched it. | 11:08 |
| lamont | thanks | 11:11 |
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