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gnomefreakasac: firefox3 ready for gutsy? when did you plan on pushing nss nspr xulrunner? can you also push nspluginwrapper and iceape as well its been a few weeks since i fixed them.03:52
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=== pitti waves
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pittihey juliux01:52
mvohello01:57
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iwjHi.01:58
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kwwiihi01:59
KeybukRiddell: ping?02:02
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Keybuk(also waiting for macslow)02:03
mvoKeybuk: I can give him a call if needed02:04
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Riddellhi02:04
Keybukmvo: his mobile is missing, so it'd have to be his house phone02:04
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KeybukI spoke to him just over two hours ago myself, so he knows about it02:04
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Keybukok02:07
Keybuk#startmeeting02:07
MootBotMeeting started at 13:07. The chair is Keybuk.02:07
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Keybukfirstly, an addition to the agenda02:07
KeybukThis meeting starts at 1200 UTC02:07
Keybuknot 1205, 1207, 1210, etct.02:07
pitti++02:08
Keybukyou all need to be here on time02:08
MacSlowsorry02:08
Keybukit's not fair on your team mates if they're here on time for the start, but you are not02:08
Keybuknext time, I will expect you all here by 120002:08
Keybukand we will start without anybody, and you will be noted as absent if you are not here02:09
Keybukok, that's the nasty bit out of the way with02:09
Keybuk[TOPIC]  RC bugs in activity summaries02:10
MootBotNew Topic:  RC bugs in activity summaries02:10
KeybukA reminder please to everyone that your weekly activity summaries *must* contain a list the Release Critical bugs assigned to you.02:10
Keybukif you have none, they must state this -- and not simply omit the section02:11
iwjExcuse me, I just need to supervise the meter readers who have just rung the doorbell.02:11
RiddellI entirely forgot about that02:11
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mvosorry, I acciently put them into the "non-trivial bugs" catgeory, I was misreading that02:11
Riddellwhat's the best URL to use to find my milestoned bugs?02:11
pittiRiddell: use the general milestones page and sort by assignee02:11
mvohttps://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&search=Search&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=mvo&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_contact=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.milestone%3Alist=474&field.milestone%3Alist=700&field.component-empty-marker=1&field.status_upstream-empty-marker=1&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch.used=&field.tag=&field.has_cve.used=&field.has_no_p02:12
mvoackage.used= <- that is what I used02:12
pittihttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/ubuntu-7.10-beta02:12
RiddellI think I prefer pitti's URL :)02:12
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Keybukubuntu-7.10-rc now :-)02:12
iwjKeybuk: none must be stated> Noted.02:12
pittiright, *both* -beta and -rc02:13
pittiand please move over your -beta bugs to -rc02:13
Keybukalternatively you can do:02:13
Keybukhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?advanced=102:13
Keybukselect the milestones your interested in, and fill your name in "assigned to"02:13
Keybukperhaps someone would write a cute python script to grab a list of the bugs for somebody and pretty-print them for the report?02:15
mpt(Perhaps people should have bug tables with totals by milestone, like the existing table of totals by package)02:15
Keybukmpt: that would be awesome02:15
mptok, I'll propose it02:15
Keybukmpt: could you work with somebody (voluntolds pitti :p) to spec something up for the LP guys?02:15
pittia canned avanced bug search in your bookmarks will do fine, thuogh02:16
mptyep02:16
pittiyeah fine for me02:16
Keybuk[ACTION]  mpt to propose LP bug tables with totals by milestone (pitti can help with our requirements)02:16
MootBotACTION received:  mpt to propose LP bug tables with totals by milestone (pitti can help with our requirements)02:16
Keybuk[ACTION]  all to include milestone bug lists in their activity summaries, or indicate if they have none02:16
MootBotACTION received:  all to include milestone bug lists in their activity summaries, or indicate if they have none02:16
Keybuknext topic02:17
Keybuk[TOPIC]  GNOME summit02:17
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Keybuk[LINK]  http://live.gnome.org/Boston200702:17
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KeybukI've mentioned this to a few of you before, and got no takers02:17
Keybukdoes anyone want to go?02:17
Keybuk(very last minute :p  you'd have to fly out tomorrow, etc.)02:17
kwwiionly if I can wear a big KDE t-shirt02:17
Keybuk(it's a shame that the GNOME Summit and UDS/FOSSCamp are at opposite ends of october)02:18
Keybukok, I'll take that silence as a "no" :-)02:19
Keybukany other business?02:19
MacSlowI'd be interested... but well02:20
KeybukMacSlow: but?02:20
MacSlowit's a bit short of a notice and I don't want to fly around while bugs need to be fixed.02:20
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MacSlowand... isn't there someone closer (geographically)?02:21
Keybuknot in our team02:21
MacSlowKeybuk, I do it, if you and the rest of the team are ok with it02:22
KeybukMacSlow: I'll chat to you about it separately after the team leads meeting later02:22
Keybuk(when we make a decision)02:22
MacSlowok02:22
Keybukquick meeting then, thanks everyone02:22
Keybuk#endmeeting02:22
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mvothanks02:23
kwwiithanks02:23
MacSlowoh... that was fast02:23
MacSlow:)02:23
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pittithanks all02:24
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nealmcb@schedule denver06:54
ubotuSchedule for America/Denver: 05 Oct 14:00: MOTU | 06 Oct 11:00: Xubuntu Developers | 10 Oct 06:00: Forum Council | 10 Oct 10:00: QA Team | 11 Oct 09:00: Community Development Team | 16 Oct 10:00: Kernel Team06:54
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nealmcbMootBot: help06:57
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nealmcbtesting...06:58
nealmcbhey - the time is right again :-)06:58
nealmcb[topic]  test topic06:59
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nealmcb[idea]  let's use mootbot for the colorado local team meeting06:59
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nealmcbnice - mootbot sends the notes to me in real time in another irc window07:01
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Arch_Rushhere07:04
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Arch_Rusherget 'er dun07:06
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MitchMSo first up is the Gutsy Release Party; Did anyone get a hold of the Boulder Broker?07:06
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MitchM#agreed07:07
nealmcb[TOPIC]  Colorado Local Team meeting07:07
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nealmcb[TOPIC]  Gutsy Release Party07:07
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Arch_RusherSPEECH!07:07
MitchMDid the gentlemen from vail get a hold of the boulder broker?07:08
tiborioYes Mitch.07:08
tiborioBut the 19th was taken already.07:08
tiborio:-(07:08
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MitchMand the 20th?07:08
tiborioI didn't ask since that wasn't an option to my knowledge.07:09
nealmcbmore information on mootbot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScribesTeam/MootBot07:09
MitchMtiborio: well; could you call back and ask about the 20th? It may be the 'last ditch' date07:09
MitchMif friday doesnt yield anything07:09
MitchM(you can post to the list if its viable or not)07:09
tiborioI can. no problem07:09
MitchMsuperb; so as of now we are still in a 'status pending' on the location. I have still offered my house as a possible venue; but i'd prefer a couple weeks notice :)07:10
MitchMWe're shooting for Friday, 19th a 6pm still I believe07:10
nealmcb[IDEA]  I like mitch's house as a venue07:11
MootBotIDEA received:  I like mitch's house as a venue07:11
MitchM[agreed[07:11
MitchM[agreed] 07:11
MitchM*shrugs* meh ;p07:11
MitchM[AGREED] 07:12
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MitchMwell; shall we go ahead and host it there in light of the confusion surrounding the location?07:12
gardenleve1Sounds like a fairly good plan to me, if you're OK with it.07:12
MitchMcan we start a vote nealmcb ?07:12
nealmcbMitchM: I'm the "chair" according to mootbot, so it only listens to me for some of the commands.  I can end the meeting and you can start it to take over as chair or I can be the recording secretary.07:13
nealmcb[VOTE]  on having the meeting at Mitch's house07:13
MootBotPlease vote on:  on having the meeting at Mitch's house.07:13
MitchM+107:13
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bryangWFH#VOTE07:14
nealmcbbryangWFH: just use "+1"07:14
nealmcbor "-1"...07:14
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MitchMmajority rules; I'll start making plans and post to the list if anything prevents it.07:14
MitchMParty at my Residence; 6pm -> I'll give details to the list later07:15
nealmcbhas anyone not voted?07:15
MitchMthat's all present i believe07:15
nealmcb#endvote07:15
MootBotFinal result is 6 for, 0 against. Total: 607:15
MitchMNext topic -> Team Meeting Scheulde07:15
MitchMschedule*07:15
nealmcb[TOPIC]  team meeting schedule07:15
MootBotNew Topic:  team meeting schedule07:15
MitchMDid this time work out ok for everyone?07:16
nealmcbworks for me :-)07:16
Arch_Rushersorry i had a phone call07:16
tiborioyes07:16
bryangWFHyes07:16
kweinertworks for me07:16
MitchMWhen should we host our next meeting?07:16
gardenleve1I would guess no, since there are only 7 of us07:16
nealmcbbut we would want to ask the mail list to find those who can't come07:16
Arch_Rusher6pm what day07:16
MitchM19th of Oct. (friday)07:16
MitchMdetails posted to the list after meeting07:16
MitchM2 weeks? 1 week?07:17
MitchMfor the next meeting07:17
gardenleve1I think we may need 1 more meeting, just to plan for the release party.07:17
Arch_Rusherhmmm.....probably will be later, i get off at 507:17
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Arch_Rusher*i will be a little late07:17
MitchMArch_Rusher: no worries :)07:17
nealmcbfriday??07:18
MitchMgardenleve1: sounds like a good idea; when are you thinking?07:18
MitchMnealmcb: it's always been friday at 6?07:18
MitchMor am i mistaken?07:18
MitchMnealmcb: when was the last party held; fri. or sat. ?07:19
Arch_Rusherhow long does it take to drve from longmont to your house07:19
MitchM25 - 30 mins07:19
nealmcbdooh - I'm thinking of this meeting...07:19
MitchMArch is still -1 on topics :)07:19
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Arch_Rusherlol07:19
MitchMFinal Release Party Meeting -> Next Week?07:20
gardenleve1Next week on thursday, but in the evening? That way people who cant be here durrig work can show up.07:20
MitchM*nods*07:20
nealmcbAnother option for our next meeting in irc would be monday the 15th at 6 or 707:20
MitchMi'm awfully forgetful on Monday's :)07:20
Arch_Rusher*gar* *nods*07:20
gardenleve1Monday works, at least for me07:20
MitchMok; Monday at 7?07:20
nealmcbis the 15th too late?07:21
MitchMhmm; possibly?07:21
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MitchM11th?07:21
MitchM7pm?07:21
MitchM(next thursday)07:21
Arch_Rushersure07:22
gardenleve111th works for me07:22
tiborioworks for me too07:22
MitchMokay; we'll post to the list and i'll mark that as a 'pending idea'07:22
Arch_Rusherarr07:22
MitchMArch_Rusher: still stuck on TLAPD?07:23
MitchM:)07:23
Arch_Rusheryeagh, you made me back in the mood earlier07:23
Arch_Rusherlol07:23
MitchMNext Topic -> Ubuntu Teams07:23
Arch_RusherGet 'er dun07:24
nealmcbsorry - catching up07:24
nealmcbthe 11th conflicts with the LUG meeting07:24
nealmcbboulder lug07:24
MitchMah07:24
MitchMWednesday?07:24
Arch_Rusherarr07:24
nealmcbI'm busy the 10th07:24
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MitchMAny good times for you next week at 7pm ?07:25
MitchMtiborio, gardenleve1, Arch_Rusher, acomer -> suggestions?07:25
tiborioI am always open! ;-)07:25
gardenleve1I'm free until Friday, then I fly to FL for a weekend wedding07:25
nealmcbfor me the next evening possibility is really the 15th, monday...07:26
Arch_Rushernever good for me at that time07:26
MitchMhmm; well i'd say we void the meeting and use the list if anything doesn't go as planned?07:26
Arch_Rusherarr07:26
tiboriobless you Arch!07:27
MitchMI'll host on Friday the 19th at 7pm; if we need an 'emergency meeting' we can schedule then07:27
gardenleve1Guess so, we seem limited07:27
MitchM*nods*07:27
nealmcbmeeting during the day next friday morning?07:27
nealmcbahh - gardenleve1 will be gone?07:27
MitchMI think it'd be too hard to get a consensus (with us having 8 or so people here)07:27
nealmcbnp07:27
MitchMi believe best plan of action is to see if anyone aboslutely hates the residence idea07:28
gardenleve1No worries, I can catch up later. We can't all be here all the time, right?07:28
MitchMand go from there maybe07:28
MitchMgardenleve1: valid point ;)07:28
nealmcb[TOPIC]  Ubuntu Teams07:28
MootBotNew Topic:  Ubuntu Teams07:28
MitchMWho is not a current member of an Ubuntu Team?07:29
nealmcb(besides coloco)07:29
nealmcb(who is not a member of coloco??? :-)07:29
Arch_Rusherme07:29
gardenleve1I'm not07:29
MitchM[IDEA]  Everyone should aim to join a team by next meeting07:29
MootBotIDEA received:  Everyone should aim to join a team by next meeting07:29
bryangWFHonly coloco for me07:29
Arch_Rushercololoco only here07:29
tiboriosame07:30
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MitchMsame here...07:30
nealmcbI'd say "invited to", not "should" :-)  I find it fun, but coloco only is still a great benefit to Ubuntu07:30
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MitchM*nods* - perhaps we should post some recommended team to the list?07:30
MitchM#ubuntu-marketing always needs help with the UWN (Ubuntu Weekly Newpapers)07:31
nealmcbThe server team is a good group, doing stuff I think is really important for Hardy Heron in particular07:31
nealmcbbug days are fun - I think triage on a topic you like teaches you a lot, and helps a whole lot07:31
MitchMI'd recommend those of you that have some spare time to write an article or two; join #ubuntu-marketing channel and ask if you can pitch an article or so07:31
MitchM(then of course join the launchpad team)07:31
MitchMYou can report on just about anything ubuntu related; and the channel is very helpful getting you pointed in the right direction07:32
Arch_Rusherarr07:32
MitchMnealmcb: i may join the server team here in a few07:32
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nealmcbgetting involved in #ubuntu-us or the worldwide loco teams is also good for flow of ideas back and forth07:32
MitchMIs there a global list of the 'Ubuntu Teams' somewhere?07:32
nealmcbwell there are over 1000 if I recall - or maybe that is projects...07:33
MitchM*nods* - i think it would be a good goal as a local to get a good majority involved in the Ubuntu Teams07:33
MitchMloco*07:33
MitchMIt's fun and gives back to the community ;)07:33
Arch_Rusheror create cololoco teams?07:33
MitchMoh; also a good idea...07:34
nealmcbhttp://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate07:34
MootBotLINK received:  http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate07:34
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musashi1late. sorry07:34
MitchMwelcome musashi1 :)07:34
musashi1thanks07:35
MitchMwe're on the topic "Ubuntu Teams"07:35
nealmcbbest way to dive in is to come to the UDS next month in Boston, and the FOSScamp the weekend before it07:35
MitchM*nods*07:35
Arch_Rusherohayo jim-san07:35
MitchMwell; i'll try and gather some easy 'jump in' projects and post them to the list07:35
musashi1ohaiyo07:36
MitchMTopic -> MitchM: 'About Ubuntu' Presentation07:36
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MitchM:)07:37
nealmcb[TOPIC]  MitchM: 'About Ubuntu' Presentation07:37
MootBotNew Topic:  MitchM: 'About Ubuntu' Presentation07:37
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MitchMI was going to hold a presentation in one of our conference rooms at work -> 'about ubuntu'07:37
MitchMThere are numerous people here that have grabbed a cd off my desk07:37
MitchMand loaded Ubuntu at home with a 'Wow - that really is neat' repsonse07:38
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Arch_Rusherdid they have beryl?07:38
MitchMArch_Rusher: nay :P07:38
musashi1i'd like pursue the library presentation to "normal" folk07:38
MitchMi'd like to kick-off the Ubuntu world at work by holding a 'presentation' for those interested07:38
MitchMget a few loco members here to maybe present why they use ubuntu07:39
MitchMand answer questions from my co-workers07:39
Arch_Rushergarr, wish me could do that at work07:39
MitchMlet them know about the list07:39
MitchMand so forth07:39
Arch_Rushergood idea mitch07:39
musashi1MitchM: aren't your co-workers geeks already?07:39
MitchMmusashi1: not ubuntu geeks :)07:39
MitchMmost of them use redhat or its derivatives07:39
musashi1but very computer savvy07:39
Arch_RusherWindows 2k3 admins07:39
MitchMaye.07:39
Arch_Rusherthe power of gui;s07:40
MitchMmost of them have 'computer experience'07:40
nealmcbcool - people can follow along with the minutes of this meeting in real time at http://kryten.incognitus.net/mootbot/meetings/ubuntu-meeting.20071004_1807.html07:40
musashi1so it's more of a ubuntu is better than suse/redhat because...07:40
MitchMbut not many of them with unix/linux07:40
MitchMmusashi1: or ubuntu is better than windows because...07:40
Arch_Rusherif ubuntu had fedoras AD, we could market ubuntu easier07:40
musashi1okay07:40
MitchMso if anyone is interested; i'd enjoy a couple volunteers07:40
Arch_Rusherdo you work weekends?07:40
Arch_Rusherif not, dam07:41
MitchMi do (but noone else here does) :)07:41
bryangWFHwhere is your work MitchM ?07:41
Arch_RusherI can visit on a weekend07:41
MitchMI-36 and 104th07:41
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MitchMbetween boulder and denver (in westminster)07:41
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kweinertjust down the road from me07:42
MitchMexcellent :)07:42
nealmcbArch_Rusher: ajmitch from the server team is working on packaging FDS07:42
kweinert108th/Wadsworth07:42
Arch_Rusherty nealmcb07:42
nealmcbMitchM: I'd be happy to help present07:42
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MitchMawesome ;)07:42
Arch_Rusheri be happy to present on a weekend07:42
nealmcbhow many folks might show up?07:42
musashi1ditto07:42
Arch_Rusherkoko! I will help on weekend07:43
MitchMmay get 50+ (in a couple sessions)07:43
MitchMArch_Rusher: not sure we could do it on a weekend07:43
MitchM:(07:43
gardenleve1I don't think I can speak knowledgebly enough to do a presentation07:43
MitchMso i'll put nealmcb, kweinert and bryangWFH as +1 ?07:43
musashi1gardenleve1: but that is a perfect example07:43
MitchMgardenleve1: well - doesn't mean you can't answer questions :)07:43
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musashi1why would an average (no offence) use ubuntu/linux07:44
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musashi1or in this group below average07:44
nealmcb[ACTION]  nealmcb, kweinert and bryangWFH will help mitchm put on a presentation for his work07:44
MootBotACTION received:  nealmcb, kweinert and bryangWFH will help mitchm put on a presentation for his work07:44
MitchMexcellent; i'll get details and contact you all through the list :)07:44
MitchMTopic -> Library Take-Over07:45
nealmcb[TOPIC]  Library Take-Over07:45
MootBotNew Topic:  Library Take-Over07:45
acomerdid we settle on the next meeting time? sorry stepped away07:45
MitchMThere was a suggestion at the Panera meeting about goign to a library and placing 'free instruction' or some-sort07:45
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MitchMacomer: next meeting was voided; we'll use the list is we need to gather again :)07:45
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MitchMin the hope to get 'average joe' to sit and lean about Ubuntu07:46
MitchMWho would be interested in spending an afternoon or so at a local library to 'teach' ?07:46
MitchM(Teach Ubuntu)07:46
nealmcb[ACTION]  (on meeting scheduling) the idea of another planning meeting for the gutsy party was voided; we'll use the list as we need to gather again07:46
MootBotACTION received:  (on meeting scheduling) the idea of another planning meeting for the gutsy party was voided; we'll use the list as we need to gather again07:46
musashi1me07:46
gardenleve1I'd give it a shot, but have no interest in organizing it...07:47
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musashi1i'll organize locally - i.e. fort collins, loveland07:47
musashi1or try to at least07:47
MitchM*nods* Perhaps at the Release Party we can discuss some actions to take? Maybe make a couple signs or get in touch with a library to 'overtake their computers' ?07:47
MitchMand see what type of response we get07:48
nealmcbI'm not quite clear on the proposal07:48
musashi1i'll contact FC before then and "feel them out"07:48
MitchMproposal: Place a sign in a library stating 'Free Linux Instruction on such and such date'07:48
MitchMwe come in on that date to whomever is interested07:48
MitchMand live-boot the library's machine07:48
MitchM(or bring an Ubuntu Laptop)07:48
musashi1or the attendees' computers if they bring them07:49
MitchMand answer questions they have / show them ubuntu07:49
MitchMmore of a 'community outreach' proposal07:49
MitchMwhich i'd be interested in doing07:49
nealmcbI think the boulder library has wifi, and maybe others.  I doubt we could boot their computers, but could use meeting space there and advertise a help session07:49
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bryangWFHso instead of install-fest, a "live-in" ;)07:49
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musashi1and a bed-in in hospitals :)07:50
MitchMgood slogan !07:50
MitchM:)07:50
gardenleve1nealmcb is right, the're not going to like the live boot idea, we need laptops07:50
MitchMaye; well - I have a laptop and a projector07:50
musashi1depends on their setup and level of knowledge07:50
musashi1low knowledge = scared07:51
nealmcb+1 for live-in07:51
MitchMwe could overtake the kids 'reading circle' :D07:51
MitchM+107:51
nealmcbtell them to bring their own and live-boot07:51
MitchMnealmcb++ :)07:51
musashi1+107:51
MitchMIn boulder we could probably draw a fair college prospective crowd07:52
MitchM:)07:52
musashi1nealmcb: uni library?? possible??07:52
nealmcbhold one on campus also - we need campus contacts07:52
musashi1or other local07:52
MitchMyeah; definetly need campus contacts.07:52
nealmcbCS dept07:52
kweinertmaybe - we didn't have many/any students that joined the lug when we were meeting there07:52
MitchMhmm.07:52
MitchMwell something to think about none the less07:53
kweinertwe no longer meet on campus because the one person that was in the lug graduated07:53
MitchMperhaps an 'extended goal'07:53
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kweinerttrue, just giving a bit of experience07:53
nealmcbwho would volunteer to organize something?07:53
MitchMmy plate will be full for a while now07:54
musashi1locally yes, in boulder no07:54
MitchMperhaps something we can discuss at the release party also?07:54
musashi1good idea07:54
acomerwhat kind of initiative is there (if any) to promote ubuntu to businesses, universities, schools? while i have no objection to a grassroots effort to teach grandma  and neighbors about ubuntu at a library, it seems to me that getting students and small business to adopt ubuntu would go a lot further towards widespread adoption. I'm not saying i have a clue how to do that, just trying to understand if that angle is already covered somehow07:54
bryangWFHgreat comment, acomer07:55
MitchMacomer: the library group would also target college kids i believe - but valid point.07:55
musashi1acomer: only if there is a grassroots movement in that area07:55
musashi1my take at least07:55
musashi1it's all grassroots for the most part07:55
MitchMMaybe we can organize a 'promote ubuntu' at local computer stores?07:55
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MitchMWe go in with a stack of cd's (and a flyer / cd tray) and ask them to just place the items on their counter07:56
musashi1they have an ubuntu imac for sale07:56
musashi1or had07:56
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MitchMwe grab a snapshot of the setup07:56
MitchMand say thanks07:56
nealmcb[ACTION]  at the release party we'll look for volunteers to organize a "live-in" at a library or on campus or at local businesses or stores07:56
MootBotACTION received:  at the release party we'll look for volunteers to organize a "live-in" at a library or on campus or at local businesses or stores07:56
MitchM*nods*07:56
MitchMwell; that's all i had on my list of things to discuss07:57
MitchManyone feel free to offer the next topic :)07:57
musashi1there was a list?07:57
nealmcb[idea]  live-in means in-person meeting with live-cd demos07:57
MootBotIDEA received:  live-in means in-person meeting with live-cd demos07:57
MitchMmusashi1: there's always a list ;)07:57
Arch_Rusher[idea]  meetings with presenations and tutorials07:57
MootBotIDEA received:  meetings with presenations and tutorials07:57
musashi1good to know07:57
Arch_Rusher[idea]  scripting tutorials07:57
MootBotIDEA received:  scripting tutorials07:57
nealmcb[TOPIC]  demo of #ubuntu-meeting facilities: ubotu and mootbot07:57
MootBotNew Topic:  demo of #ubuntu-meeting facilities: ubotu and mootbot07:57
musashi1nealmcb: yes07:58
MitchMexcellent topic :)07:58
Arch_Rusherarr07:58
nealmcbso here you all are, in #ubuntu-meeting .  woot!07:58
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Arch_Rusherarr07:58
tiborio:))07:58
nealmcbcome here and hang-out to see the heart of the action07:58
nealmcbwatch this:07:58
nealmcb@schedule denver07:58
ubotuSchedule for America/Denver: 05 Oct 14:00: MOTU | 06 Oct 11:00: Xubuntu Developers | 10 Oct 06:00: Forum Council | 10 Oct 10:00: QA Team | 11 Oct 09:00: Community Development Team | 16 Oct 10:00: Kernel Team07:58
nealmcbyou see that the "ubotu" bot can help translate time zones07:58
nealmcbtry it yourself07:59
MitchM@schedule tokyo07:59
ubotuSchedule for Asia/Tokyo: 06 Oct 05:00: MOTU | 07 Oct 02:00: Xubuntu Developers | 10 Oct 21:00: Forum Council | 11 Oct 01:00: QA Team | 12 Oct 00:00: Community Development Team | 17 Oct 01:00: Kernel Team07:59
MitchM:)07:59
nealmcbsee more info at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots07:59
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nealmcbubotu also knows about bugs - way cool:  bug 11251608:00
ubotuLaunchpad bug 112516 in ubiquity "ubuquity using over 2 GB during apt upgrade due to unused packages" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11251608:00
nealmcb!webmin08:00
ubotuwebmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system08:00
Arch_Rusherthat is true08:00
gardenleve1What about thoughts reorganizing the loco?08:00
Arch_Rushervery true08:00
MitchMgardenleve1: perhaps a better idea for the release party with the majority present?08:01
nealmcbgardenleve1: we'll do that topic next08:01
nealmcbbut there is more!08:01
nealmcbpackages....08:01
nealmcb!info python08:01
ubotupython: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.5.1-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 137 kB, installed size 600 kB08:02
MitchM!info rkhunter08:02
uboturkhunter: rootkit, backdoor, sniffer and exploit scanner. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.9-3 (feisty), package size 133 kB, installed size 528 kB08:02
MitchM!info denyhosts08:02
ubotudenyhosts: an utility to help sys admins thwart ssh hackers. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6-1 (feisty), package size 60 kB, installed size 412 kB08:02
MitchM:) both good packages08:02
nealmcb!help08:02
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots08:02
Arch_Rushercan you just use hosts.deny ?08:03
Arch_Rusherthat worked for me08:03
MitchMdenyhosts adds ip entries of people who try and 'brute-force' your ssh connection to hosts.deny08:03
Arch_Rusheroh wow08:03
nealmcband you've already seen the mootbot demo, live in action!08:03
MitchMa good program when you have a 'public server' and have to open ssh to everyone :)08:03
Arch_Rusherty mitchm08:03
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MitchM*nods* :)08:04
musashi1what about the scribes stuff we mentioned. how do that happen?08:04
nealmcbany questions about #ubuntu-meeting or ubotu or mootbot?08:04
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MitchM:)08:04
Arch_Rusherarr08:04
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nealmcbgo visit that url I pasted with the notes-in-progress: http://kryten.incognitus.net/mootbot/meetings/ubuntu-meeting.20071004_1807.html08:04
nealmcbincredible...08:05
MitchMArch_Rusher: ye be ta' scurviest lad to lay eyes o' dar seven seas!08:05
Arch_Rusherlmfao08:05
nealmcbat the end I think the links at the left (timestamps) will be linked to the actual transcript of the session08:05
nealmcbahh - they are already...08:05
Arch_Rusherarr looks purdy like me trasure08:06
gardenleve1And we can have this in #ubuntu-colorado if this room is busy?08:06
MitchMvery awesome nealmcb08:06
Arch_RusherGood job neal!08:06
MitchM:)08:06
Arch_Rushergives neal 1000 expeirence points08:06
Arch_RusherHow do you do what musahi just did08:06
nealmcbso when you use mootbot as the "chair", look in the window it opens up and follow the link to the notes and log for the meeting and share that with folks, especially if they join late08:06
MitchM[idea]  Neal shares info about the Ubuntu Bots; their functions and best practices08:07
MootBotIDEA received:  Neal shares info about the Ubuntu Bots; their functions and best practices08:07
Arch_Rusher* musashi1 must step AFK for a bit. sorry  <--how do you talk like this08:07
nealmcbArch_Rusher: say "/me does something"08:07
Arch_Rusheroh ty08:07
Arch_Rusherarr many thanks08:07
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nealmcbit is called "emoting"08:07
Arch_Rusherwell call me emo , im hearting08:08
nealmcb(at least a decade ago in diversity university moo)08:08
MitchMwell; anyone have any other topics to discuss?08:08
MitchMVote -> Close Meeting?08:08
Arch_Rusherpeople to tach bash scripting08:08
nealmcborganizational plans?08:08
Arch_Rusherat meetings08:08
MitchMArch_Rusher: i'll be more than happy to help you - msg me sometime08:08
Arch_Rusherok ty08:09
MitchMnealmcb: too few present to discuss?08:09
MitchM*shrugs*08:09
nealmcbI'm not sure about the protocol for using this #ubuntu-meetings space - you can schedule it and your meeting will show up on the fridge I guess.  where is rinchen when we need him?08:09
gardenleve1Are there any plans for the release party yet?08:09
MitchMArch_Rusher: topic in #bash will have good links for you08:09
Rinchenyes?08:09
nealmcbanother ubuntu day is coming up with lots of irc demos08:09
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nealmcb(week?)08:10
Rinchennealmcb, you had a question?08:10
MitchMgardenleve1: my casa -> Oct 19th, Friday 6pm08:10
nealmcbRinchen: ahh - the power of naming...08:10
nealmcbdo you know the protocol for scheduling this channel?08:10
nealmcbwe just jumped in here since the next meeting wasn't for 3 hours....08:11
gardenleve1MitchM: Are we going to leave it at that? I'd kind of like to see plans for a presentation (on Gutsy)08:11
nealmcbanyone know when ubuntu demo week (or whatever the name is) is?08:11
Rinchennealmcb, you can schedule this via the Fridge calendar08:11
nealmcbany ubuntu-related activity is welcome?08:12
nealmcband impromptu meetings are ok?08:12
MitchMgardenleve1: no problem on you making those plans ;)08:12
nealmcbhttp://fridge.ubuntu.com/event08:12
MootBotLINK received:  http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event08:12
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nealmcb(it is in the /topic here also)08:13
MitchMgardenleve1: we can whip something together maybe ?08:13
nealmcbMitchM: you have a projector for the party and a place where folks could crowd in and watch?08:13
MitchMnealmcb: hmm -> i'll try and set something up :)08:14
MitchMthere are a couple places that may suffice... with some arrangement08:14
nealmcb[TOPIC]  more ideas for the gutsy party08:15
MootBotNew Topic:  more ideas for the gutsy party08:15
nealmcbfood? beverages?08:15
MitchMi'll take care of both;08:15
nealmcb!!08:15
acomer:)08:15
nealmcbvegetarian?08:15
kweinert+108:15
MitchMoh. good point;08:15
MitchMeveryone will be eating dinner there?08:16
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nealmcb:-)08:16
MitchMhehe08:16
tiborioMitchM: Shouldn't we be pitching in? Money, food?08:16
MitchMor will everyone want to snack throughout?08:16
MitchMtiborio: i wont turn away your money if that's what you're asking?08:17
acomergood point neal - is it geeks only or families too08:17
MitchM:D08:17
tiborioMitchM: Maybe my sister can pay "in services"?08:17
MitchM*chuckles*08:17
MitchMi have a lady-companion08:17
nealmcbMitchM: you're offers are very generous but we don't want to over do it and burn you out :-)  So please be clear about what you are happy with and what would be overkill.08:18
MitchMbut - if she does AJAX programming maybe we can work something out :)08:18
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tiborioMitchM: Yes she does and she is 67, too!08:18
MitchM[IDEA]  MitchM will provide snacks and a main course / drinks. Please feel free to bring food yourself and/or donate some cash.08:18
MootBotIDEA received:  MitchM will provide snacks and a main course / drinks. Please feel free to bring food yourself and/or donate some cash.08:18
nealmcbs/you're/your ...08:18
gardenleve1What else would people like to see? Presentation(s), food, drinks, short meeting (where our Team Lead will retire)08:19
Arch_Rusherfunny hat?08:19
Arch_Rusherdictator hat08:19
MitchM:p08:19
nealmcbfor me the most important thing is time and space to hang out and learn.  I love food but would go even if there was no food or drink08:19
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MitchMwell - i'll try and work out everything later today/tomorrow; and i'll post concerns/details to the forum tomorrow for all to review08:20
nealmcbubucon is my favorite activity (and IETF meetings....) - food for the mind08:20
Arch_Rusherhey nealmcb remmebre that book that they gave away a few blug mettings ago? That cost $50!08:21
nealmcbI'd suggest being able to advertise a bit of a presentation on gutsy at a set time, after folks can have showed up .  then it is easier to advertise to newbiews08:21
MitchMsounds like a plan :)08:21
nealmcbyeah - a lug can easily get free books from publishers to give away, IF they get folks to contribute reviews of books.  even simple paragraph-long reviews...08:21
gardenleve1What if we have the presentation at 7 or 7:30, give people time ot show up and get settled08:22
MitchM7:30 -> +108:22
nealmcband who wants to do it?08:22
MitchMnealmcb +108:22
MitchM:D08:22
Arch_Rusher+!08:23
Arch_Rusher+!108:23
Arch_Rusher+108:23
MitchMlol08:23
Arch_Rusherthere we go08:23
Arch_Rusherarr me keybord will be sent to depths of the ocean08:23
gardenleve1Lets ask for a voulnteer on the list, somebody who's used it a lot. If nobody voulnteers one of us can do it.08:23
MitchM+108:23
nealmcbI can talk a bit about how to get involved after that - maybe 5 minutes.  we also want time for folks to split up, chat, demo with each other, relax, etc08:23
nealmcbI wouldn't be the one to talk about gutsy08:23
nealmcbI haven't tried it yet....08:23
MitchMnor i08:24
Arch_Rusheri can talk about o'gutsy08:24
kweinertI have on one box and now I can't update things - hangs with bluez-utils :(08:24
Arch_RusherIt is a great advacement for ubuntu users08:24
MitchM[IDEA]  Arch_Rusher has volunteered to do a gutsy presentation.08:24
MootBotIDEA received:  Arch_Rusher has volunteered to do a gutsy presentation.08:24
nealmcbArch_Rusher: I thought you used arch....08:25
Arch_Rusherthat mootbot text seems really ironic?08:25
Arch_Rusherlol08:25
MitchM:P08:25
Arch_Rusherarch user gives presentation on gutsy08:25
Arch_RusherI used gutsy for a week and was happy08:25
Arch_Rusherchecked out the new features08:25
Arch_Rusherand played with it08:25
Arch_RusherI am qualified to speak on it08:26
MitchMexcellent.08:26
Arch_Rusherbased on no qualificatiosn08:26
MitchMi look forward to it :)08:26
Arch_Rusherhe he08:26
gardenleve1I think it would be neat to show of 2 installs, a basic (clean) install, then one thats beefed up and running compiz-fusion, just a thought08:26
MitchMgardenleve1: bring the compiz-fusion laptop?08:26
MitchM[IDEA]  Laptop presentation of a 'beefed-up' Ubuntu Install (compiz-fusion etc)08:26
MootBotIDEA received:  Laptop presentation of a 'beefed-up' Ubuntu Install (compiz-fusion etc)08:26
gardenleve1Sorry, I have an intel card. I can bring a clean install08:26
MitchM*nods*08:27
nealmcbdiscussion of server installs with the new tasksel options (e.g. print server) would be nice08:27
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nealmcb[idea]  new server options also08:27
MootBotIDEA received:  new server options also08:27
MitchMbeat me to it ;)08:28
MitchM[IDEA]  Some form of 'freestyle presentation time' -> Whiteboard?08:28
MootBotIDEA received:  Some form of 'freestyle presentation time' -> Whiteboard?08:28
MitchMI can present on Bash scripting, Make scripting and what-not08:28
nealmcbanybody know apparmor?08:29
MitchMneg08:29
nealmcbor the samba server install08:29
nealmcbdesktop search?08:29
gardenleve1I can learn all about desktop search, if know one else wants to do it.08:31
MitchM*shakes head*08:31
musashi1we all just thinking now?08:31
MitchMmusashi1: seems so08:31
nealmcbavahi demo....08:31
musashi1backing up a bit then, what about presentations to schools/dist08:31
MitchMi'd personaly avoid that; schools are so 'locked in' its hard to do anything with them08:32
MitchMconvert them outside of work :)08:32
musashi1actually, i have a school wanting info08:32
musashi1bryangWFH: is going to talk with them but i bet there are others08:32
MitchMwell excellent; i'm in for open-minded school's08:32
nealmcbmusashi1: if you have listeners, we have presenters08:32
MitchM[IDEA]  '08:32
MootBotIDEA received:  '08:32
musashi1can we drum up more listeners08:33
MitchMgr.08:33
nealmcblike our presentation, coming up, to mitch's work08:33
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musashi1i only have so many contacts08:33
musashi1and many of you likely have some too08:33
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nealmcb[topic]  presentations to schools/districts08:33
MootBotNew Topic:  presentations to schools/districts08:33
bryangWFHmaking a youtube video wouldn't be a bad idea either (to have as a reference)08:34
bryangWFHor a series of short topic ones, anyway08:34
nealmcbshowing them what is up in catalan(?) or portland would be cool.08:34
nealmcbI'd love to see an OLPC demo - some of the local python gurus and others are involved with it08:35
bryangWFHand maybe the intel alternative one as well08:35
nealmcbdidn't intel join olpc also?08:35
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nealmcbanything more on this topic?08:37
nealmcbany other topics?08:37
musashi1maybe we can get people in white shirts and black pants to go door to door08:37
bryangWFHlol08:37
nealmcbfrom the CULT?08:37
MitchM:P08:37
musashi1exactly08:37
musashi1we need evagelists08:38
MitchMor maybe we can get people in Ubuntu Shirts, and No pants?08:38
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musashi1could work08:38
MitchMoh no; then we'd be back at our first release :D08:38
nealmcb[idea]  Colorado Ubuntu Linux Team (CULT) members go door-to-door in professional attire08:38
MootBotIDEA received:  Colorado Ubuntu Linux Team (CULT) members go door-to-door in professional attire08:38
acomerhmm08:38
musashi1hello, may i borrow your computer for a moment. you will love this.08:39
nealmcb"we'd like to first share the Code of Conduct" with you." :-)08:39
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gardenleve1Sorry guys, got to go get lunch before the game starts. Go Rockies.08:39
MitchM'im from the local college, and I'd like to show you how you can save yourself computer headache'08:39
nealmcb[topic]  offical team name - for web page, wiki, etc.08:39
MootBotNew Topic:  offical team name - for web page, wiki, etc.08:39
nealmcb[idea]  Colorado Ubuntu Linux Team08:39
MootBotIDEA received:  Colorado Ubuntu Linux Team08:39
MitchMgardenleve1: hasta!08:39
musashi1rockies? is that in the repos08:40
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nealmcbok we can come back to that...08:40
nealmcbgood meeting!!08:40
MitchMin fact; back to work for me08:40
nealmcbany last thoughts?08:40
MitchMIf you want alcohol - BYOB !08:40
musashi1what? no keg?08:40
MitchM*chuckles*08:40
MitchMi knew you'd jump on that musashi108:41
MitchMif(musashi1 == "predictable"){ laugh(); }08:41
MitchM;)08:41
acomeri plan to stop at left hand on the way08:41
MitchMgood man acomer :)08:41
acomerthose growlers wont go far though :(08:42
MitchMi may have a keg of budlight; but with all the food/non-alch beverages - it may be too much :P08:42
nealmcbI don't know if we want to prove that ubunteros can also get drunk and throw up all over the house...08:42
MitchM*nods*08:43
MitchMbyob.08:43
nealmcbbyob sounds good to me08:43
MitchM:)08:43
Arch_RusherARRRR BRING DA RUM!08:43
MitchMRUM!08:43
musashi1bring your own babe? sweet08:43
Arch_Rusherlol08:44
nealmcborganic dark local beer :-)08:44
MitchMbring your own batteries08:44
musashi1so it's one of THOSE parties08:44
nealmcbexpensive enough that you cherish it :-)08:44
Arch_Rusherbring your own propiratary drivers08:44
MitchMlmao08:44
musashi1lol08:44
MitchMi'm back to work08:44
musashi1thanks all08:44
MitchMcheers all; see you guys Oct 19th ;)08:44
tiboriosay "/me bows, thanks all and quietly leaves the building right behind Elvis"08:45
Arch_Rusherl8r mate08:45
musashi1sorry i was AFK a bit08:45
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nealmcbcheers folks!08:45
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musashi1so the whole thing got sent to scribes?08:45
nealmcb#endmeeting08:45
MootBotMeeting finished at 19:45.08:45
nealmcbmusashi1: check out that url - scribing happened automatically in real time08:46
musashi1it's really short08:46
nealmcbas the world watched!!08:46
nealmcbmusashi1: with links to the discussion08:46
musashi1mine is not all there08:46
musashi1refreshing doesn't change08:46
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nealmcbhttp://kryten.incognitus.net/mootbot/meetings/ubuntu-meeting.20071004_1807.html08:47
nealmcbcomplete with attendees!!!08:47
musashi1i'll check it later but for me it's about 20 lines long08:47
nealmcbyeah - that's the main actions08:48
nealmcbminutes should be short, and with a transcript you can go as deep as you like08:48
musashi1ah, i see how it works08:48
musashi1thanks08:48
Arch_Rushergood meeting guys08:48
Arch_Rusheri missed 90%of it, i work in a call center08:48
musashi1take your phone off the hook08:49
Arch_Rusherbut the upcoming event sounds fun08:49
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Arch_RusherI love to be a little gutsy and talk about gutsy08:49
musashi1already installed on one computer08:49
Arch_Rusherwere alll a liuttle gutsy to sing about gutsy08:49
musashi1itching to put on desktop08:49
Arch_RusherI got some local ubuntu news08:50
Arch_RusherI helped this guy move his website from Windows server to a ubuntu 7.04 server install08:50
Arch_Rusherhe is happy08:50
Arch_RusherThat is 1 less windows box08:50
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nealmcb@schedule denver11:01
ubotuSchedule for America/Denver: 05 Oct 14:00: MOTU | 06 Oct 11:00: Xubuntu Developers | 10 Oct 06:00: Forum Council | 10 Oct 10:00: QA Team | 11 Oct 09:00: Community Development Team | 16 Oct 10:00: Kernel Team11:01
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