=== ivoks [n=ivoks@21-93.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-server === dantalizing_away is now known as dantalizing === pschulz01 [n=pschulz0@ubuntu/member/pschulz01] has joined #ubuntu-server === zul_ [n=chuck@mail.edgewater.ca] has joined #ubuntu-server === kb3llm [n=macuser9@cpe-24-209-47-228.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-server [01:46] hi everyone [01:47] i was using ubuntu server, then i tried to install a GUI on it, and had problems, and tried debian. Have even MORE problems, so i'll probably go back to text-only ubuntu server [01:47] and i can ssh in [01:47] That's how it's meant to be used. [01:48] i know, but i wanted a GUI.. [01:48] learned my lesson :) [01:48] and i couldn't get xorg.conf to work right on debian for ANYTHING [01:50] any way to add more than 6 virtual terminals to ubuntu server? [01:50] aside from using screen [02:13] kb3llm: for a simple gnome gui on servers I install these : [02:13] gnome-panel gdm metacity xserver-xorg firefox xfonts-base firefox-themes-ubuntu gtk2-engines-ubuntulooks ubuntu-artwork gnome-applets gnome-system-tools nautilus gnome-terminal ubuntu-docs update-manager [02:15] and it works without any problems? [02:16] not for me ;) [02:17] cool... then i could browse the internet when my mom takes away my mac mini lol... (she leaves the server in my room) i just use it for the fun of it. I HAD 3 sites hosted on it, before all this happened. Now i have the sites, but somehow lost the MYSQL database backups in the process, so i'll have to start fresh on some parts of the sites :( [02:22] leonel: what about screen resolution problems? [02:23] that was one of my problems with my short time of playing with debian [02:23] i was stuck at a max of 800x600 [02:23] kb3llm: none dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver and you're done [02:23] i did that with debian and it didn't help at all. [02:23] what video card you have ? [02:23] cirrus something.... [02:23] its an HP netserver LC3 [02:24] and the resolution for that card and montor what is ? [02:24] according to a website: Cirrus Logic CL-GD5446; BIOS 1.33; PCI; 2 MB; 8 MB; Video Resolution SVGA; Video Resolution XGA; SVGA [02:24] the max resolution of the monitor is 1680x1050 [02:24] but for the video card to keep with that resolution need memory [02:25] ? [02:25] so i cant run that resolution with that card? [02:25] 2 mb 8 mb it's to low for 1680 x1050 [02:25] whats the max i could run then? [02:25] you need to fit those pixels in memory and the max colors for it [02:26] configure to use thousands of colors instead millions and try 1024 [02:27] how do i do all that? will you help me, once it finishes installing? (installing the main ubuntu-server right now) [02:27] just [02:27] sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [02:28] and choose a 1024x768 resolution with 16bit color [02:28] if it works do a greater resolution [02:28] any widescreen res.'s that will work on that card? [02:30] don't know but you have to low video memory to keep with your monitor resolution [02:30] even if i use 16 bit instead of 24? [02:32] yes [02:32] if i try will it screw it up, or can i keep trying, until something works? [02:32] leonel: any way, after installing all those packages, to make it default boot into TERMINAL and only use X if i call "startx" ? [02:34] you can try [02:34] for let the server in text mode [02:34] sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove [02:34] and that will make it so i have to type startx every bootup? === osmosis [n=steven@76.90.81.133] has joined #ubuntu-server [02:35] kb3llm: yes [02:36] kb3llm: http://www.infohq.com/Computer/notebook-video.htm [02:37] maybe the video memory it's ok but try with lower resolution and 16 bits [02:40] whats the default root password? [02:40] i didn't get to set it in setup for some reason [02:42] kb3llm: you don't use a root password [02:42] kb3llm: sudo -s [02:43] will let you "AS" root [02:43] i got it.. sudo passwd root [02:43] lol [02:43] :) [02:47] k I'm gonna install those packages now. you sure those are the only ones i need? [02:49] curious, what happens if you startx through an ssh connection? [02:49] will it try to start in the terminal window? [02:49] through ssh [02:49] ? [02:50] it will give you error since startx need a TTY and not a pts [02:50] if you want X apps from your server to your desktop [02:50] [02:50] ssh -X user@server [02:51] then will forward all the X11 to your desktop [02:51] and not use startx just .. [02:51] firefox [02:51] and you will be using firefox on your server with the display on your desktop [02:52] what if the desktop is a windows machine? or os x? [02:52] I don't know windows or osx [02:52] that'd be sweet. run linux programs on a windows machine thru ssh [02:53] i think you need a Xserver on windows and maybe on osx can work [02:53] but .. [02:54] with windows I've tried that about 15 years ago with Xservers on windows [02:54] yes i'm talking about windows 95 and 3.11 :) [02:54] lol [02:56] and that's the last windows I've used as desktop i have a XP but as a simple and plain enduser there [02:56] and really don't use it === pschulz01 [n=pschulz0@ubuntu/member/pschulz01] has joined #ubuntu-server === YourMomsHero [n=cirish@74.202.196.195] has left #ubuntu-server [] === ToonArmy [n=chris@82-32-184-195.cable.ubr04.newt.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-server [03:49] leonel: you here? [03:49] need some help with the screen res. thing [03:51] kb3llm: what's up [03:51] i tried that reconfig thing, and it didn't help [03:51] cant get past 640x480 [03:51] can you help guide me through the steps? [03:52] ill try again. [03:52] but 640x480 sucks :) [03:52] did you select your cirrus driver and 16 bit color ? [03:52] yup [03:52] try the vesa driver [03:52] k. [03:53] will you guide me through it. There are some steps i'm not sure about: do i choose simple advanced or medium, for the display thing? [03:54] go simple [03:54] and 20" ? (its a 20 inch monitor, but its widescreen, so, still choose 20?) [03:54] yes [03:55] k [03:57] what resolutions should i select? [03:58] 1024 === coffeedude [n=coffeedu@68-184-60-223.dhcp.mtgm.al.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-server [03:59] too late, i selected a few. should i start over? (640, 800, 1024) [03:59] ok [03:59] ? [03:59] it will try [03:59] so its fine [04:00] and 16 bit? [04:00] 8? [04:00] 1024 first and let you with the one than can do that resolution [04:00] 16 [04:00] so start over, and select 1024 [04:00] k [04:00] if i just close my ssh terminal,, will that kill it and let me start over? [04:01] in teory .. [04:01] i'm doing the config over ssh, testing on main monitor, though [04:01] its a dual input monitor, that way i dont have to switch back and forth [04:03] he he, i put 1024 like you said, and when i started x again, it let me choose 800x600 [04:03] weird [04:04] but a little better... [04:04] is that as good as its gonna get, or can it go a little higher? [04:04] doit again with higher resolution [04:04] but keep the ones you selected [04:05] but why did it let me choose 800, if i selected 1024?? [04:05] thats weird [04:05] i just selected 1024, thtas it [04:05] i didnt even select 800... [04:05] hmm [04:05] because with ctrl alt + you can switch resolutions [04:05] that are configurated [04:06] you can have all the resolutions supported by your card and monitor and switch with ctl alt NUM+ [04:07] oh, so i could have dont ctrl alt + and gone up to 1024? [04:07] ? [04:10] leonel: ? [04:10] leonel: i selected another one, and it didn't do anything. just stayed at 800x600 [04:10] i wonder if the vid card will only support 800x600 max? === kb3llm will try 1280x1024 [04:12] i think 800x600 is the max its gonna give me === PanzerMKZ [i=Panzer@05-074.136.popsite.net] has joined #ubuntu-server === dantalizing [n=dan@wsip-70-184-147-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-server [04:27] oh, so i could have dont ctrl alt + and gone up to 1024? [04:27] ? <-- yes if it's supported and configured [04:28] you can configure all the options and the xserver will try all and give you the higher [04:29] so since i chose 1024, and it gave me 800, 800 is the highest.... === kb3llm sighs === umop-apisdn [n=pockets@74.193.166.6] has joined #ubuntu-server [04:37] hey, where's my system messages? [04:37] used to be available on ALT+F12 ? [04:38] ctrl alt f8 ? [04:41] no dice :P === pschulz01 [n=pschulz0@ubuntu/member/pschulz01] has joined #ubuntu-server === zylstra555 [n=chatzill@66.172.101.250.nwinternet.com] has joined #ubuntu-server [05:23] Good evening: I need to get OpenSSL and Perl on my server. How do I do this? [05:24] *specifically to get Webmin working, I should add [05:27] In interest of time, Ill try the other channel (just Ubuntu) === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-server === benlake [n=benlake@cpe-76-187-73-152.tx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-server === dantalizing is now known as dantalizing_away === YourMomsHero [n=cirish@ip24-251-191-203.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-server === YourMomsHero [n=cirish@ip24-251-191-203.ph.ph.cox.net] has left #ubuntu-server [] === boggle [n=spindler@pd95b1604.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-server [08:46] moin === CrummyGummy [n=CrummyGu@dsl-242-12-54.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-server === AnRkey [n=AnRkey@host-83-146-42-229.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-server === nijaba [n=nbarcet@unaffiliated/nijaba] has joined #ubuntu-server === macd [n=d@cl-151.ewr-01.us.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu-server === Nicke [n=niclasa@ua-83-227-140-135.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-server [10:05] other then top, what can i use to get a breakdown of ram/swap usage by application? is there something out of the box? [10:09] What do you want to find out, specifically? [10:12] what is swapping to disc, when i still have ~40mb of ram left. [10:12] in cache admitedly [10:16] If you're getting short on RAM, the kernel will swap out anything that's not locked and is not being actively used. [10:17] It could change from one second to the next. [10:17] Are you seeing any significant performance problems? === SWAT [n=SWAT@ubuntu/member/swat] has joined #ubuntu-server [10:19] no, i dont think so. i've not run the box enough to know when its running well or not === soren goes to fetch some coffee [10:35] Kamping_Kaiser: If it's working fine, why bother with this? [10:36] soren, intrest. a desire to know whats going on [10:38] It's hard to determine, really. You can get a reading of how much of a process' ram space is resident, how much is shared, and how much virtual memory it takes up, but turning that into "which processes are swapped out" is not easy. [10:40] anybody knows a tool for linux to stick a process to a special cpu? === nijaba [n=nbarcet@unaffiliated/nijaba] has joined #ubuntu-server [10:42] kraut: Yeah, it's known as cpu affinity. [10:43] soren: ah, i think i found it [10:43] http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/setting-processor-affinity-certain-task-or-process.html [10:43] kraut: You use taskset(1) to fiddle with it. [10:45] kraut: You need to remember, though, that you use it to lock a certain process to a specific set of cpu's. If you want to keep everything else off of that same set of cpu's so a process is the only thing running on them, it gets slightly trickier. [10:45] soren: yep, i know. i am trying to tune a python script but the main issue is i/o wait. [10:45] kraut: The easiest way would be to set init's cpu affinity from initramfs. [10:45] rrdtool writes its stuff on a nfs-mount and it's to slow to handle this. [10:52] And this relates to cpu affinity how? [11:00] threads waiting for i/o [11:01] but it won't change anything as i thought... :/ === dexem [n=dani@14.Red-88-26-177.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-server [11:06] Threads waiting for I/O are not running, so they're not really on any cpu anyway? [11:08] dunno [11:08] 11:08:12 CPU %user %nice %sys %iowait %irq %soft %steal %idle intr/s [11:08] 11:08:17 all 0.30 0.00 1.10 43.80 0.70 4.20 0.00 49.90 3663.60 [11:08] 11:08:17 0 0.60 0.00 2.00 87.20 1.40 8.40 0.00 0.40 3541.40 [11:08] 11:08:17 1 0.00 0.00 0.20 0.40 0.00 0.00 0.00 99.40 122.40 === lafuma [n=lafuma@ip236.cab30.mus.starman.ee] has joined #ubuntu-server [11:24] kraut: Er... Yes? [11:24] kraut: One CPU is really busy, another isn't? [11:25] kraut: That's not notable by itself. Do you have several cpu bound processes running? [11:25] kraut: Or perhaps jus tone? [11:25] just one.. [11:26] several one, but it's more a nfs-problem. look at the heavy i/o wait === CrummyGummy [n=CrummyGu@dsl-242-12-54.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-server [11:31] kraut: i/o wait is not heavy. [11:31] kraut: by definition. [11:31] kraut: It's *waiting*. === dexem_ [n=dani@14.Red-88-26-177.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-server === dholbach [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/dholbach] has joined #ubuntu-server [11:41] heya [11:41] does anybody have the time to dive into bug 139251, bug 134342 and bug 134068? [11:41] Launchpad bug 139251 in mediawiki1.10 "package mediawiki1.10 1.10.1-1 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139251 [11:41] Launchpad bug 134342 in ubuntu "[needs packaging] Themeampache" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134342 [11:41] Launchpad bug 134068 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] libapache2-mod-bwshare" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134068 === maeth [n=maeth@pc-110-15-104-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-server [11:42] dendrobates: ^ :-) [11:42] hi, im trying to install a VPN on my ubuntu server machine, i got DHCP and internet sharing+firewall via firestarter [11:43] i have never succefully installed a VPN before, ive tried on windows XP, it was pretty simple but it doesnt work well.... [11:44] maeth: Personally, I like openvpn a lot. There are many howtos about it floating around. [11:46] Kamping_Kaiser: You're the one who working on the mediawiki bug, right? [11:46] soren, yes (for values of working) [11:50] Kamping_Kaiser: Just removing "set -e" sounds like hiding the symptoms, but not fixing the problem. Do you remember the actual error? === soren is too lazy to just install it. :) === Kamping_Kaiser [n=kgoetz@gnewsense/friend/kgoetz] has joined #ubuntu-server === lousygarua [n=lousygar@DSL217-132-173-209.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-server === dholbach [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/dholbach] has left #ubuntu-server ["Ex-Chat"] === nijaba_ [n=nbarcet@mx.barcet.com] has joined #ubuntu-server [12:29] soren: yep, i know. but in fact the machine is to slow to handle all the rrd-container. === ivoks [n=ivoks@backup.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-server [12:38] kraut: What if you generate them on a local drive and copy them onto the nfs file system? === nijaba [n=nbarcet@unaffiliated/nijaba] has joined #ubuntu-server === nijaba [n=nbarcet@unaffiliated/nijaba] has joined #ubuntu-server === crummygummy_ [n=CrummyGu@dsl-242-12-54.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-server === nijaba [n=nbarcet@unaffiliated/nijaba] has joined #ubuntu-server === dendrobates [n=dendroba@adsl-065-005-186-012.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-server === CrummyGummy [n=CrummyGu@dsl-242-12-54.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-server === EtienneG [n=etienne@ubuntu/member/EtienneG] has joined #ubuntu-server === crummygummy_ [n=CrummyGu@dsl-242-12-54.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-server === gamble6x [i=bbg@gateway/tor/x-0991ce67696de510] has joined #ubuntu-server === CarlFK [n=carl@c-76-29-25-210.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-server === mathiaz [n=mathiaz@ubuntu/member/mathiaz] has joined #ubuntu-server === PanzerMKZ [i=Panzer@04-210.136.popsite.net] has joined #ubuntu-server === dantalizing [n=chatzill@n128-227-41-10.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-server === lbm [n=lbm@0x555373ab.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-server [04:25] <_ruben> hmm .. what would be the best fix/workaround for the udev network bug in gutsy? [04:25] <_ruben> google hasnt been very helpful, yet [04:33] what bug? [04:38] <_ruben> devices showing up as eth2 and eth3 instead of eth0 and eth1 [04:39] <_ruben> and im having some troubles renaming my interfaces to custom names (having troubles = finding the proper ubuntu way, i do know the suse way) [04:43] _ruben: see /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules [04:44] <_ruben> that's the file i'm currently playing with, yet with no success [04:44] what's to play - you put an entry there with the MAC you want and the name you want... [04:45] <_ruben> play as in finding the proper syntax, i tried several so far, but either they're wrong or dont get picked up by an /etc/init.d/networking restart for some other reason [04:46] <_ruben> eg: SUBSYSTEM=="net", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTRS{address}=="00:18:8b:f7:90:59", NAME="int0" [04:52] <_ruben> oh well .. enough 'playing' for today, time to go home [04:53] Just nuke the current /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules [04:54] reboot and presto! [04:54] After that, everything should be fine and stay the same. [04:54] The bug only occurs in the installer === umop-apisdn [i=user@207.191.90.200] has joined #ubuntu-server [04:54] <_ruben> soren: i replaced the contents with the line above, havent rebooted though, will try tomorow [04:55] int0? Is that right? [04:55] <_ruben> that's what i want it to be [04:55] Alright. [04:55] <_ruben> int/ext/wan/etc [04:55] If it finds a nic it doesn't know already, it's added to that file, so the easiest way to add stuff to it, is to remove the file, and reboot. === lbm [n=lbm@0x555373ab.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-server [04:55] <_ruben> ah ok [04:55] ...and use the result as a starting point. [04:56] And you need to reboot for any changes in there to take effect. [04:56] <_ruben> will try that tomorow [04:56] <_ruben> ok [04:56] Well, either that or yank the nic and reinsert it, but if your hardware is not hotpluggable, reboot's the thing. [04:56] Alright. Have fun. [04:57] <_ruben> ic, with suse a network restart is enough. need to get rid of my suse 'tricks' i guess :-) [04:57] <_ruben> assuming we'd abandon suse that is :) [04:57] <_ruben> anyways, thanks for the pointers and i'll be back tomorow if i cant get it to work afterall === dexem__ [n=dani@224.Red-88-23-204.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-server === dexem [n=dani@224.Red-88-23-204.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-server [04:59] Alright, see you then. === Nicke [n=niclasa@ua-83-227-140-135.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-server [05:11] if anyone is intrested, i made a video on installing ubuntu server manager on a fresh install of gutsy, from downloading to bringing up the webpage. [05:12] the link to the video is http://www.ubuntusm.org/index.php?Page=Forum_Post&TID=10&TID=10 === leonel [n=leonel@189.155.89.44] has joined #ubuntu-server [05:33] oly_mk2: nice background on the desktop. where'd you get it? [05:35] um, its the gutsy background or one of them [05:36] ah [05:36] thanks, i use feisty, myself [05:36] <-- not an early adopter. still uses 6.06 on his server [05:37] well, i made that video on a test laptop, i am actually doing most development and testing on feisty [05:37] but wanted to know if it worked with gutsy [05:37] not tried dapper though, probably missing some packages, at a guess === `6og [n=kgoetz@gnewsense/friend/kgoetz] has joined #ubuntu-server === dantalizing is now known as dantalizing_away [06:01] oly_mk2: thanks for the video, and usm. [06:02] thats okay :) [06:02] the video is hard to see on this screen of mine - especially the browser part - a smaller resolution would help [06:02] still needs a lot of work though, but its starting to come together into something visibly working [06:02] always a pity to see all those nasty warning about ssl certs [06:02] you can download it, the quality is much higher then [06:02] what was the MAC error - repeated - I couldn't read it [06:03] you can actually read the text then [06:03] in firefox ? [06:03] the ssl warning go away if you install the certificate, and if its generated correctly it helps [06:04] ie the cname conatins the same hostname you access the page with, i will improve that at some point but for now its not that important [06:04] of course - I'm just moaning about the whole interconnected frustrated difficult broken world of pki.... [06:05] okay [06:05] can you contrast usm and ebox? [06:05] nope not tried ebox yet, but i could [06:06] i installed it but did not know what port to access it on instantly so i left it there [06:06] till i can be bothered to try it again [06:06] i am intrested though because might give me ideas / inspiration [06:07] I do prefer python :-) [06:07] me to :) [06:07] have you tried putting it in a ppa? [06:07] this is my first venture into python, [06:08] i tried making a deb and failed miserably [06:08] getting lots of wierd errors that where meaningless to me, [06:08] i guess with ppa you make the deb and upload it ? [06:09] will probably have another crack at it soon [06:09] yeah, after testing builds locally [06:09] https://help.launchpad.net/PPA101/20070913 [06:10] you may still need to be in the launchpad beta testers team [06:10] aha, okay will look into it [06:10] downloading didn't help my view of the video - what size screen did you make it on? [06:10] i would like to know how to make debs [06:10] its a widescreen laptop [06:11] that's the problem for me - only 1024 across [06:11] 1400x1050 [06:11] perhaps i will try making it again, and drop the resolution [06:11] did not really consider that when making it [06:12] I recall a good screencaster-maker howto from a while ago, will share it if I find it [06:12] okay, [06:12] what i really want is a good ogg editor :p [06:12] but i am yet to find one === ivoks [n=ivoks@39-42.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-server [06:13] I think there are much better codecs for screencasts, but don't know if there are good free ones yet [06:14] most likely, but i liked the fact i can use cortado and embed on my webpage [06:14] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreencastTeam/RecordingScreencasts [06:14] instead of using google or youtube video [06:16] huh - I don't see the video on the webpage - just the download link [06:18] needs java, and some tweaking i think :p [06:18] i only just added it to the site to allow them to be embeded, [06:19] ahh - I always disable java - too big/slow on this machine [06:19] pity... [06:19] thats why theres a download link :) === nealmcb nods [06:21] anyway hometime now === Scunizi [n=Scunizi@ip72-197-240-36.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-server === YourMomsHero [n=cirish@74.202.196.195] has joined #ubuntu-server === MitchM [n=MitchM@unaffiliated/MitchM] has joined #ubuntu-server === acomer [n=acomer@66.54.202.57] has joined #ubuntu-server === osmosis [n=steven@63.139.86.3] has joined #ubuntu-server === MitchM [n=MitchM@unaffiliated/MitchM] has left #ubuntu-server ["Leaving"] [06:53] what's the install file name for glibc headers? [06:54] install file name? [06:54] name of the package? [06:55] libc6-dev === dantalizing_away is now known as dantalizing === leonel [n=leonel@189.155.89.44] has joined #ubuntu-server [07:16] ivoks, thanks. I'm trying to install vmware-tools in xubuntu desktop on Dapper Server. It's reporting an error in locating the correct directory to find the C headers. Using "locate" doesn't seem to help. [07:17] apt-file would help [07:17] apt-file search name_of_the_file [07:17] ok.. and the file name is libc6-dev? [07:18] no [07:18] that's package name [07:18] file name would be something like /usr/include/termio.h [07:18] ok.. I'll give it a shot.. [07:19] just install libc6-dev [07:19] those are C headers [07:19] I did but vmware-tools is looking for the headers in /usr/scr/linux/include and can't find them. That's why I'm looking for the right location. [07:20] shoulda mentioned that first :| [07:20] that's kernel headers, not C headers [07:20] It's specifically asking for the C headers. [07:21] what kernel do you use? [07:21] C cause it's a language; it wouldn't ask python for C programs :) [07:21] 2.6.15-26 server [07:22] then install linux-headers-server [07:22] k === coffeedude [n=coffeedu@68-184-60-223.dhcp.mtgm.al.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-server [07:26] installed and still getting... "What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] . It can't find them... [07:28] location is /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-26-server [07:28] or, you can make link [07:28] ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-26-server /usr/src/linux [07:29] it wants me to type in the direct path to them. I tried /usr/src with no success.. and /usr/src/linux .. weird.. I've done this before without these hoops.. === oly- [n=oly@81-86-69-7.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu-server [07:32] well, you are doing it wrong [07:32] create a link [07:32] and then just leave it as /usr/src/linux/include [07:33] ok.. I'll give it a shot.. I appriciate your help. [07:40] when I uname -a to discover which kernel I'm using it shows what I previously mentioned. After installing the headers with the line you gave me, and looking in /usr/src with Thunar it shows header files for xx.xx-29.. [07:40] Is that normal? [07:41] you just installed system? [07:41] and didn't do apt-get dist-upgrade? [07:42] I did an update and an upgrade not a dist-upgrade.. [07:43] Will dist-upgrade attempt to take me beyond Dapper? [07:43] no [07:43] ok.. I"ll do that first.. [07:43] do-release-upgrade does that [07:44] It's been a while since I did a fresh install.. still fairly noobish at this and remembering the nuances of install.. [07:45] you'd figure after a year of practicing I'd remember some of this.. erg. [07:45] :) [07:46] just install latest kernel, boot it and then continue installation of vmware tools [07:46] will do [07:54] Success! Thanks.. I know it can sometimes be aggravating helping when some of the much needed info to diagnose a problem is eeked out. I know, I occationally help on #ubuntu. Your patients is appriciated.. :) [07:55] great... enjoy ;) [07:55] you bet! === dantalizing is now known as dantalizing_away === Nicke [n=niclasa@ua-83-227-140-135.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-server [08:33] will I be able to upgrade to gutsy final easily when it comes out, from gutsy beta ? [08:34] Yes. [08:34] Just do regular updates and when the final is released, you'll have it already. === mdz_ [n=mdz@ip-81-1-105-230.cust.homechoice.net] has joined #ubuntu-server === dantalizing_away is now known as dantalizing === Dessan [n=andrew@ip70-191-201-165.pn.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-server === Roge [n=roger@CPE001346ca56d1-CM00122540214a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-server === Scunizi [n=Scunizi@ip72-197-240-36.sd.sd.cox.net] has left #ubuntu-server ["Leaving"] === emretemp [n=emretemp@88.249.213.130] has joined #ubuntu-server [09:53] lamont: For a Hardy mail server goal I was thinking amavisd-new in Main as the official way to bolt on crack like clamav or spamassassin might make sense. Any thoughts? [09:55] haven't used amavisd or clamav. I have used spamassassin though.... [09:55] How did you integrate it into Postfix? [09:55] I imagine you and that other guy I know will have very good ideas about what the default MTA install should look like.... [09:56] Right. [09:56] some random howto from the web, which I probably b0rked, since I get occasional complaints about the db lock file not being creatable.... [09:57] You might want to look into amavisd-new and call SA from that. On postfix-users it seems to be the standard recommendation these days. [09:57] ah, cool [09:57] I assume I can have amavisd-new and not actually check for any viruses? [09:57] I also just uploaded a new version to Gutsy. [09:57] Yes. [09:57] if there were windoze boxen, I might care more. [09:58] Amavisd-new can have either SA, clamav, or neither bolted on. [09:58] nice [09:59] I'm in the opposite position myself. I run outbound MTAs and I trust my customers not to spam (long story, but it works for me), but since the almost all run Windows boxen, I pass clamav over everything. [09:59] Since I just need clamav, I use clamsmtp myself since it's a lighter way to do just clamav. [09:59] ah, ok [10:00] from what I don't know, I might actually understand parts of that long story. Then again, it's all supposition [10:00] No, it's probably a different story, but who knows (since you claim you don't). [10:01] I have a long-standing NDA with that other guy. then again, I also have no need to know other than helping him with racking stuff and answering his BIND questions from time to time [10:01] In any case I just uploaded a new amavisd-new that's more Ubuntuized. [10:01] nice [10:02] and it's pure assumption on my part that A is related to B at all. [10:02] Right. It's not 100% unrelated, but close. === tru_`z24_ [n=truz_`24@74-129-166-232.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-server === lamont watches his rebuild testing happen before uploading stuff, just to be a good little boy. [10:03] I mostly did the upload so that if uname -a isn't a FQDN (which we have bugs aboug), the user gets pointed to the actual correct conf file. [10:03] (no change uploads can be fun when they break... always good to test first) [10:03] Agreed. [10:03] uname -a almost never gives an FQDN.... [10:03] hostname --fqdn, otoh.... [10:05] Right. Wrong extension. [10:05] Option, whatever [10:05] In any case we don't always set it right. [10:07] can anyone show me a well-commented series of examples for iptables? i need port redirection to specific machines, and a generic nat for non-specific machines. === ivoks [n=ivoks@37-149.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-server === tru_`z24 [n=truz_`24@74-129-166-232.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-server [10:10] oh, and i have ip aliases on my external nic, eth0, eth0:1, eth0:2, etc. the interface it comes in on determines which internal machine gets the port redirect === lamont bets tldp.org has iptables howtos on it [10:12] lamont: thanks, i'll try those === lamont debates whether or not he wants to see if (un?)labeled aliases on an interface still breaks postfix === tru_`z24 [n=truz_`24@74-129-166-232.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-server [10:18] ScottK: and possibly just unkind mind games on my part to imply that I have any knowledge on whatever subject that is... :) [10:18] Sure. No problem. [10:19] :-) I'll remember to be more kind in the future. [10:20] that whole "approaching good from the other side" thing that Keybuk was accusing me of last night [10:20] lamont: I used to enjoy the cygwin mailing list whose motto (for those that don't know) is WJM _ We're Just Mean. [10:21] heh [10:22] The Ubuntu CoC represents an interesting challenge for me. I've mostly managed to stay on the correct side of it. === lbm [n=lbm@0x555373ab.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-server === lbm [n=lbm@0x555373ab.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-server === kb3llm [n=macuser9@cpe-24-209-47-228.neo.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-server [] === pike_ [n=happy@74-140-134-102.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-server === Styles [n=Styles@67.138.244.194] has joined #ubuntu-server [11:42] how do i designate a tab key in a sed? like cat /proc/cpuinfo|grep model\ name | sed -e 's/model name //' [11:42] i can use tr to do it with a \t just wondering [11:45] lol nm === pike_ [n=happy@74-140-134-102.dhcp.insightbb.com] has left #ubuntu-server []