[12:04] <LjL> alcaponage: where did you *get* it from? *how* did you install it?
[12:04] <alcaponage> i don't understand
[12:04] <elivance> bascule: its still not doing it - im running from live CD - could that influence it? and its an NTFS partition
[12:04] <alcaponage> where did i get what?
[12:04] <bascule> dakira: well maybe it's right, but I guess not or you wouldn't be querying it
[12:04] <LjL> alcaponage, the nvidia driver! where did you download it from? the repositories? nvidia.com? somewhere else?
[12:05] <bascule> elivance: emm, well try gparted if it s there and see what it thinks
[12:05] <bascule> elivance: should be one of /dev/sda or /dev/hda for first drive though ...
[12:05] <phoo_> does anybody know whether libquicktime0 replaces quicktime4linux? or the second one should also be built
[12:06] <alcaponage> it came w/ the laptop?
[12:06] <LjL> alcaponage: your laptop came with Ubuntu?
[12:06] <alcaponage> no
[12:06] <ozehka> where can i set the locale settings "LC_..."?
[12:06] <LjL> sigh
[12:06] <alcaponage> i got the driver from sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24
[12:06] <LjL> alcaponage: no
[12:06] <alcaponage> in the terminal
[12:06] <elivance> bascule: ahh its sda1 - just says 'fatal error, cannot open disk drive'
[12:06] <Downix> phoo_ libquicktime is the underlying library, you'd still need quicktime4linux
[12:06] <LjL> alcaponage: you *must* have done something *before* doing that - otheriwse, no driver.
[12:06] <LjL> alcaponage: have you used the Restricted Manager perhaps?
[12:06] <bascule> elivance: sudo
[12:06] <Downix> elivance: 2k, XP or Vista NTFS?
[12:06] <dakira> bascule: ubuntu doesn't detect my battery any more since 5.10.. and since gutsy it thinks that i'm on battery instead of outlet
[12:06] <ozehka> nvm
[12:07] <dakira> bascule: so you see my problem ;)
[12:07] <alcaponage> i dont' see nvidia in restricted driver
[12:07] <LjL> alcaponage: look just type  apt-cache policy nvidia-glx  and tell me what it says
[12:07] <bascule> dakira: cd /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/ and cat those files see what it is saying to you
[12:07] <phoo_> Downix, do you know if there are precompiled packages for this?
[12:07] <Downix> phoo_:  don't know off-hand,  don't use Quicktime
[12:08] <alcaponage> it says nvidia-glx: nistalled (none)
[12:08] <phoo_> hahahaha, can't really avoid it - cinelerra is havind issues
[12:08] <elivance> downix: heya, xp
[12:08] <spinner_> so if i want to watch divx do i need to install some decoders or can i just tdownload vlc for linux disp?
[12:08] <alcaponage> .... security.ubuntu.com
[12:08] <LjL> alcaponage: then you either never installed it, or you installed it from Nvidia.com (but then you should *know* that you have)
[12:08] <bascule> dakira: that is probably kernel level stuff if it is completely mis-detecting things, tricky to solve, but dmesg can get enough info for a decent bug report
[12:08] <LjL> alcaponage: does  apt-cache show nvidia-glx-new  also say it's not installed?
[12:09] <alcaponage> it said to run it, "sudo ... enable"
[12:09] <alcaponage> do i enable it?
[12:09] <LjL> alcaponage: "it" said what?
[12:09] <elivance> bascule: it says The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 8033.
[12:10] <alcaponage> "To enable the driver, run "sudo ... enable"
[12:10] <Downix> any thoughts for how to see if I have agpgart in the kernel or not?
[12:10] <LjL> alcaponage: or rather, *what* said what?
[12:10] <LjL> alcaponage: that command that i gave you said that?
[12:10] <bascule> elivance: is it making that sound like a bad thing or just reporting it?
[12:10] <LjL> alcaponage: oh wait, that's because i gave you the wrong command.
[12:10] <alcaponage> yea
[12:10] <LjL> alcaponage: i meant  apt-cache policy nvidia-glx-new 
[12:10] <dakira> bascule: yeah.. i just wanted to know where i find the acpi config files, so that i can prevent ubuntu from shutting down even before i can login
[12:11] <elivance> bascule: it actually says 'this isnt a bad thing but my cause some problems with booting and partitioniong software from other OS's
[12:11] <bascule> dakira: /etc/acpi but those are fairly complex shell scripts
[12:11] <alcaponage> it said i have it installed
[12:11] <spinner_> how do i canhge the language
[12:11] <dakira> bascule: just found them.. they are in /etc/default ;)
[12:11] <LjL> alcaponage: good. then it simply seems that you don't remember installing it... ok
[12:11] <alcaponage> "installed: 1:100....."
[12:12] <elivance> bascule: when i verify the partition table it says : Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
[12:12] <elivance> Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary.
[12:12] <elivance> Warning: partition 1 overlaps partition 2.
[12:12] <elivance> Partition 3 does not end on cylinder boundary.
[12:12] <elivance> Total allocated sectors 1701990412 greater than the maximum 129066147
[12:12] <LjL> alcaponage: does your network connection work now?
[12:12] <LjL> !paste > elivance    (elivance, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:12] <dakira> bascule: right now i'm trying to blacklist the battery.ko module.. that might be the best solution for now, I think..
[12:12] <alcaponage> yes
[12:12] <vvd> do i need a bootloader in the mbr of the target when i chainload stuff via usb?
[12:12] <bascule> elivance: clearly corrupt partition table ...
[12:12] <cmphark> DOES ANYONE HAVF EXPERINCE SETTING UP WEBSERVER?
[12:12] <LjL> !caps | cmphark
[12:12] <ubotu> cmphark: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[12:12] <cmphark> sry
[12:12] <vagner> brasil?
[12:12] <cmphark> didn't know it was on
[12:12] <cmphark> hah
[12:13] <Pici> !br | vagner
[12:13] <ubotu> vagner: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[12:13] <vagner> help?
[12:13] <alcaponage> LjL: now what?
[12:13] <LjL> alcaponage: then do  sudo apt-get install pastebinit  and then  cat /var/log/Xorg.1.log | pastebinit -b  http://pastebin.com 
[12:13] <dakira> bascule: aand.. it's working.. thank god ;)
[12:13] <snail__> I have a HP Pavillion dv9000 and have just installed ubuntu, but it freezes before x starts (or during the start of X) i have gone into recovery mode and i can do what i want, but when i start GDM , it freezes
[12:13] <Innomen> ok
[12:13] <bascule> dakira: well that is a start
[12:13] <vagner> !br | vagner
[12:13] <cmphark> no one?
[12:13] <LjL> snail__: try  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  and select VESA mode
[12:13] <Innomen> error loading operating system and its the only one on the drive, fresh ubuntu 7.04 install :)
[12:14] <elivance> bascule: is there a way to fix that?
[12:14] <vagner> ?
[12:14] <bascule> cmphark: the guys that work at google have experience setting up webservers
[12:14] <Les_Caesars> what's the quickest way I can make my extra drives mount automatically on startup?
[12:14] <alcaponage> LjL: it said non suchfile or directory
[12:14] <LjL> vagner: escribe     /join #ubuntu-br    para entrar no canal brasileiro
[12:14] <bascule> elivance: well sudo testdisk /dev/sda might be a good start
[12:14] <LjL> alcaponage: which of those two commands said that?
[12:14] <Invisionfree> If I have another OS running with GRUB, can I use Ubuntu to boot it?
[12:15] <cjae> I am trying to use tsclient to remote connect to a ms box and I get an error what is all the info I need
[12:15] <Invisionfree> If I have another OS running with GRUB, can I use Ubuntu to boot it? ><- I mean without restart, sorry for repeat
[12:15] <vagner> obrigado
[12:15] <alcaponage> cat /var
[12:15] <dakira> wel.. good night everyone
[12:15] <alcaponage> it said Unable to read from : -b
[12:15] <cmphark> BASCULE how do i get ahold of the "google" ppl
[12:16] <bascule> cmphark: i was being sarcastic and faceceous
[12:16] <cjae> user name, password, do I need the computer name?
[12:16] <LjL> alcaponage: sure you've typed it right? it's        cat /var/log/Xorg.1.log | pastebinit -b http://pastebin.com
[12:16] <elivance> bascule: sorry bout that, accidentally put you on ignore >.<
[12:16] <nickrud> cmphark: why not ask the real question?
[12:16] <Les_Caesars> bascule: facetious
[12:16] <bascule> elivance: oh well, perhaps I deserved it :)
[12:16] <bascule> Les_Caesars: thanks
[12:16] <LjL> alcaponage: and, of course, you *must* have type  sudo apt-get install pastebinit  and let it install, before doing that
[12:17] <cjae> domain is the ip or dns address right
[12:17] <elivance> bascule: certainly not :p
[12:17] <servervm> I've got a question for anyone using Ubuntu Server LAMP. Is gd2 automatically installed?
[12:17] <elivance> bascule: im just rubbish with IRC :D
[12:17] <alcaponage> it said "cat: /var/long/Xorg.1.log: No such file
[12:17] <bascule> elivance: me too, its all that typing ;)
[12:17] <dakira> servervm: i don't think so.. install php5-gd
[12:17] <LjL> alcaponage: /var/log/Xorg.1.log - log, not long!
[12:18] <cmphark> NICRUD what question is that?
[12:18] <alcaponage> that's what i meant
[12:18] <alcaponage> i typed log
[12:18] <elivance> bascule: hehe
[12:18] <nickrud> cmphark: the question you're gonna ask when someone says they know how to install web servers
[12:18] <flush> just letting you know
[12:18] <elivance> bascule: i guess theres no simple way to fix the partition table without reformatting
[12:18] <flush> the "wodim" app is amazing
[12:18] <Henry_> hi, really quickie question about system reqs
[12:18] <alcaponage> cat /var/log/Xorg.1.log | pastebinit -b http://pastebin.com
[12:18] <cjae> do I need client host name
[12:19] <cmphark> nickrun, just trying to figure out how to setup a webserver on a home machine
[12:19] <LjL> alcaponage: then try with /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:19] <Henry_> i've been tagged as the family tech support guy, and i'm trying to fix an old celeron 1ghz, 256 mg ram computer
[12:19] <dmitry_> in the terminal, how to navigate to a directory? :P
[12:19] <nickrud> flush: yeah, it exposes the apt underworld very nicely, doesn't it
[12:19] <LjL> !cli > dmitry_    (dmitry_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:19] <dmitry_> thanks.
[12:19] <dmitry_> ^_^
[12:19] <Henry_> one option is to reinstall windows 98
[12:19] <Henry_> the other is to go ubuntu/vmware/win98
[12:19] <flush> nickrud this is national security
[12:19] <servervm> cmphark: the best way to play around with it is in a VM using VMWare server..
[12:20] <nickrud> cmphark: sudo apt-get install apache2 , the place to put files to serve is /var/www
[12:20] <Henry_> my question is, can a computer with these specs handle this?
[12:20] <bascule> Henry_: ubuntu/vmware 98 , 256 ram, too low
[12:20] <kitche> LjL alcaponage I know sometimes the log can be Xorg.0.log.old if your trying to find an older log like from the last time X started up
[12:20] <cmphark> thank u
[12:20] <alcaponage> it says "unale to read from -b
[12:20] <LjL> alcaponage: see what kitche said? try /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old too
[12:20] <Henry_> so just go with a straight 98 install, and hope for the best?
[12:20] <mneptok> Henry_: not VMware it can't
[12:20] <servervm> !lamp | cmphark
[12:20] <ubotu> cmphark: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[12:20] <Henry_> thanks very much
[12:20] <mneptok> Henry_: Min98 is a really bad idea
[12:21] <bascule> Henry_: I couldn't possibly recommend win98 for any reason at all
[12:21] <mneptok> *Win98
[12:21] <Henry_> really?
[12:21] <mneptok> Henry_: yes, really.
[12:21] <Henry_> go with ubuntu desktop then?
[12:21] <cmphark> nickrun: i have that but i'm still having problems accessing it from a remote site, other computers
[12:21] <LjL> alcaponage, ok, just type  gksudo gedit /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old , select all the text, then paste it into http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and give me the URL
[12:21] <bascule> henry_: it is the least stable thing I have ever seen
[12:21] <LinuxJuggalo> yes Henry_ ubuntu is much better
[12:21] <mneptok> Henry_: there are many known weaknesses in 98 that MS will never fix
[12:21] <Henry_> will may dad (60's, computer barely literate) be able to deal with this?
[12:21] <Henry_> i.e. then change from windows to linux ..
[12:21] <alcaponage> it said unable to read from -b
[12:21] <bascule> well ubuntu desktop is gonna run in 256, but it will be sluggish
[12:21] <nickrud> not to mention that there are no security updates for how long, 2 years?
[12:22] <mneptok> Henry_: my 73 yo father did
[12:22] <Henry_> yeah, i was thinking of ghosting the image so i could reinstall as needed :)
[12:22] <LinuxJuggalo> Henry_: its easy to learn and get used to
[12:22] <preaction_> Henry_, if you set it up properly, Gnome might even be easier to use than windows
[12:22] <elivance> anyone know any tools to fix a damaged partition table?
[12:22] <alcaponage> LjL: I can do cat var/log/Xorg.0.log.old         without the pastebin
[12:22] <cjae> anyone here use tsclient
[12:22] <Drewster> shite, a little busy perhaps...?
[12:22] <Henry_> bascule - really, ubuntu will be sluggish at 256 ram?
[12:22] <DropKickMurpheys> mneptok: if you are running 256 ram i would suggest using Zenwalk Linux :/
[12:22] <penguin42> elivance: How did it get damaged?
[12:22] <Henry_> win 98 flies with those specs
[12:22] <LjL> alcaponage: just find a way to paste its contents into http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:22] <Henry_> i can't imagine that ubuntu is less efficient ...
[12:23] <bascule> Henry_: gnome will, xfce better
[12:23] <elivance> penguin42: i removed a partition and resized an exisiting one whish is now reporting free space incorectly
[12:23] <LinuxJuggalo> Henry_: i have another box with just 128mb ram and works great with ubuntu
[12:23] <Henry_> so, gnome, xfce or ubuntu?
[12:23] <Henry_> or should i just shut up and try them ;)
[12:23] <penguin42> Henry: You might want to try xubuntu or one of the other slightly lighter variants
[12:23] <elivance> penguin42: it had 500mb free when it was 20gb, i changed it to 60 and theres still only 500mb free
[12:23] <vvd> anyone know why grub installation fails on (hd0,1) (reiserfs)?
[12:24] <alcaponage> LjL: i'm just gonna reinstall ubuntu
[12:24] <DropKickMurpheys> Can someone direct me on how to install Java and Flash on the x86_64 edition of ubuntu?
[12:24] <LinuxJuggalo> Henry_: ubuntu comes with gnome, gnome is a desktop manager
[12:24] <WorkingOnWise> Hi all. I am waiting for Gutsy, and then I plan on going to it full time. In order to be able to do it, I will need to run Windows Xp in a qemu because I use several office 2007 apps for my business. My laptop has a Turion x2 cpu and 2gb of ram, so I should have the power. My question is this. will I get better performance from running gutsy x64, and then emulate an x86 machine for xp, or run gutsy x86. In the future, whe
[12:24] <DropKickMurpheys> The plugins for firefox?
[12:24] <WorkingOnWise> n the brices drop, I intend on installing 8gb of ram, which will mandate an x64 install, but till then, where's the most bang for the buck?
[12:24] <LjL> alcaponage: as you wish
[12:24] <bascule> penguin42: it runs OK in 128, I relise it could, but to here it does is noce
[12:24] <Henry_> oh, oops, thx
[12:24] <Sable> Everytime I run the update manager, about 15 seconds after it starts downloading updates, i lose internet.  I cannot even ping my router, but network manager says im connected.  To get it working, I have to restart the computer or disconnect/reconnect the usb adapter.  It works fine with all other internet stuff, it just stops working once I run the update manager.  Any ideas?
[12:24] <alcaponage> LjL: thanks tho
[12:25] <penguin42> elivance: Sorry, I don't understand what you mean; I suggest start with an fdisk -l to see what that says - and how did you change the partition table?
[12:25] <DropKickMurpheys> !java
[12:25] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[12:25] <DropKickMurpheys> :/
[12:25] <alcaponage> LjL: how do I remove the "2.6.20.16generic"?
[12:25] <DropKickMurpheys> !x86_64 firefox plugins
[12:25] <alcaponage> LjL: my "2.6.20.15generic: works fine
[12:25] <DropKickMurpheys> !x86_64 firefox
[12:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x86_64 firefox - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:25] <elivance> penguin42: sorry :p I resized the partition with gparted and found out about the damage by running cfdisk - will run fdisk now
[12:25] <DropKickMurpheys> !x86_64
[12:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x86_64 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:26] <koer> any one here know about KDEnlive ?
[12:26] <DropKickMurpheys> weeeeeeel
[12:26] <DropKickMurpheys> google time i guess
[12:26] <LinuxJuggalo> !64 bit | DropKickMurpheys
[12:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 64 bit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:26] <WorkingOnWise> !x64
[12:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x64 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:26] <LinuxJuggalo> lame
[12:26] <cjae> !tsclient
[12:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tsclient - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:26] <DropKickMurpheys> lol
[12:26] <LjL> alcaponage: you shouldn't need to remove it, you can just boot into the older one... but  sudo apt-get remove linux-image-2.6.20-16-generic  will remove it. but MAKE SURE the older one is still there, or you won't be able to boot at all!
[12:26] <LinuxJuggalo> !lame
[12:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lame - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:26] <LinuxJuggalo> ;p
[12:26] <Gandur> how do I mount a hdd, that I connected to my PC after I installed ubuntu, permanently and give access to the standard user?
[12:26] <DropKickMurpheys> what do you know ubotu :/
[12:26] <penguin42> DropKickMurpheys: For flash you need a thing called nspluginwrapper that isn't in feisty but is in gutsy that runs 32bit plugins in 64bit ff; Java I haven't got a good answer for - you know running a 32 bit firefox is the easiest answer
[12:26] <LjL> !botabuse
[12:26] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[12:27] <Henry_> ok, gonna give straight ubuntu a try, thanks so much for all your help guys!
[12:27] <DropKickMurpheys> penguin42: how would i run the 32bit ff on my x64?
[12:27] <abdu0066> i am looking for some who can tutor me C++
[12:27] <cjae> wow
[12:27] <g0dd3ss> 8-}
[12:27] <DropKickMurpheys> using nspluginwrapper?
[12:27] <LjL> Henry_: if you ask me, 128Mb is not nearly enough for smooth GNOME desktop.
[12:27] <Henry_> 256
[12:27] <alcaponage> LjL: it said it couldn't find the package
[12:27] <dimas_> dakira are you still there?
[12:27] <koer> anyone know about kdenlive ?
[12:27] <kempo> hallo alle zusammen
[12:27] <elivance> penguin42: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39483/
[12:28] <penguin42> DropKickMurpheys: I've not done it; I went the nspluginwrapper route; I think the trick is to get the 32bit ff package from mozilla.com - but I think it is best to check the ubuntu wiki
[12:28] <LjL> alcaponage: then try  dpkg --get-selections | grep linux  and see what it's called
[12:28] <DropKickMurpheys> i mean i have 7.10 but i have it on cd... its the Alternate cd...For oem
[12:28] <kempo> wieso funktioiniert das bcm43x-fwcutter packet nicht?
[12:28] <LinuxJuggalo> Henry_: no problem, we hope you like ubuntu and enjoy it :) if you got any questions or problems with ubuntu please feel free to come here :)
[12:28] <LjL> !de | kempo
[12:28] <ubotu> kempo: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:28] <DropKickMurpheys> k
[12:28] <DropKickMurpheys> i will try
[12:28] <dimas_> i am trying to install windows on virtual box but said this...The VirtualBox kernel driver is not accessible to the current user. Make sure that the user has write permissions for /dev/vboxdrv by adding them to the vboxusers groups. You will need to logout for the change to take effect..
[12:28] <andrea> HI: I TRIED TO INSTALL UBUNTU ON A LAPTOP BUT WHILE BOOTING OR SOON AFTER BOOT, IT AUTO-shootdown WHY?
[12:28] <LjL> !caps | andrea
[12:28] <ubotu> andrea: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[12:28] <andrea> sorry hi had caps lock
[12:28] <penguin42> elivance: Oops!
[12:28] <hal14450_> dimas_, you need to add your user to the virtual box group
[12:28] <koer> anyone know about kdenlive ?
[12:29] <LjL> andrea: perhaps it thinks it's overheating
[12:29] <penguin42> elivance: Can you try an fdisk -l  please
[12:29] <alcaponage> LjL: then do i remove the one?
[12:29] <LjL> andrea: i know that there is a bug report about that
[12:29] <andrea> no the temp is ok
[12:29] <LjL> alcaponage: sudo apt-get remove "...."
[12:29] <andrea> and it works fine with windows
[12:29] <dimas_> ha14450 where i find that? where is that option?
[12:29] <LjL> andrea: i said it may *think* it's overheating - not that it *really* is overheating.
[12:29] <erUSUL> dmitry_: sorry i was away what were you saying about your bandwitch?
[12:29] <Drewster> I have question, does anyone know if i can use my sony network walkman with ubuntu, ist the NW-HD3?
[12:29] <alcaponage> LjL: now what, i see Linux-image-2.6.20.16-generic and headers
[12:29] <hal14450_> dimas_, system>administration>users and groups
[12:29] <koer> anyone know about kdenlive who can help me ?
[12:30] <andrea> ok so what should i do?
[12:30] <hal14450_> dimas_, then logout of x and back in again
[12:30] <LjL> alcaponage: sudo apt-get remove linux-image-2.6.20.16-generic
[12:30] <alcaponage> it still doesn't work
[12:30] <abdu0066> what is the topic here
[12:30] <abdu0066> nerds
[12:30] <LjL> andrea: see this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/22336
[12:30] <elivance> penguin42: added the output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39484/
[12:30] <dimas_> hal14450 system from ubuntu?
[12:30] <bascule> !topic
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[12:31] <abdu0066> ok
[12:31] <abdu0066> i understand sir
[12:31] <koer> i need help iwth kdenlive , anyone ?
[12:31] <hal14450_> dimas_, just logut of your window manager gnome or whatever and then log back in for the change to take effect
[12:31] <mlaissi> Hi people
[12:31] <abdu0066> hie
[12:31] <koer> i need help with kdenlive , anyone ?
[12:32] <penguin42> elivance: Why are you using fdisk on /dev/sda1 don't you mean /dev/sda ?
[12:32] <mlaissi> I'm trying to install gcc
[12:32] <LjL> !anyone
[12:32] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:32] <mlaissi> but I have no idea how to do that :$
[12:32] <LjL> mlaissi:  sudo apt-get install build-essential 
[12:32] <erUSUL> mlaissi: install build-essentials
[12:32] <LjL> !compile > mlaissi    (mlaissi, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:32] <Mookie> heres a question
[12:32] <bascule> mlaissi: build-essential from the add/remove
[12:32] <Mookie> where do i find stage 1?
[12:32] <Mookie> or stage 2?
[12:32] <LinuxJuggalo> mlaissi: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:32] <elivance> penguin42: im using the live cd - and gparted says that the partition is called /dev/sda1 so i just assumed -- ill try with sda
[12:32] <koer> im having trouble with sound rendering with kdenlive , help !
[12:32] <LjL> penguin42: a keyboard, most of the time
[12:33] <abdu0066> this place is flooded with iformation
[12:33] <Pici> Mookie: of?
[12:33] <mlaissi> LinuxJuggalo : seems to bo doing some installation now ...
[12:33] <alcaponage> How do I remove the .16?
[12:33] <bascule> abdu0066: welcome to the internet ... :)
[12:33] <LjL> abdu0066: using the nickname of the person one is talking to helps keeping track of the conversation.
[12:33] <Mookie> pici ubuntu
[12:33] <penguin42> elivance: So your disc is /dev/sda, the partitions are /dev/sda1, sda2 etc - so if you want to look at the partitioning then you need to tell fdisk to look at the disc
[12:33] <hal14450_> lol @ bascule
[12:33] <Mookie> im trying to create a boot disk and it says to copy stage 1 and stage 2
[12:33] <penguin42> LjL: Ah those aren't characters I'm used to
[12:33] <LinuxJuggalo> mlaissi: that is what is supposed to do, it installs all the gcc things you need
[12:33] <Pici> Mookie: I'm a little confused as to what you mean by 'stage 1' and 'stage 2'
[12:33] <snail__> what's the command to create a new user
[12:34] <cjae> may someone please help me with my rdp connection?
[12:34] <Mookie> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy
[12:34] <koer> im having trouble with sound rendering with kdenlive , help ?
[12:34] <elivance> penguin42: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39485/ done :p
[12:34] <Mookie> for using grub
[12:34] <dimas_> hal14450 i have micromedia flash server an user...is that from virtualbox?
[12:34] <mlaissi> LinuxJuggalo: Thats what I get : Err http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/main binutils 2.16.1-2ubuntu6.3
[12:34] <mlaissi>   404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.37 80] 
[12:34] <kRush> Hi, I've set up dnsmasq as local dns cache but it still seems to forward cached entries, any ideas?
[12:34] <LjL> penguin42: precisely. which means that people can't type them. which means that they won't think they're part of the command. (well, they still do sometimes)
[12:34] <erUSUL> snail__: adduser
[12:34] <snail__> thanks
[12:34] <LjL> !traffic
[12:34] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[12:34] <erUSUL> snail__: but you can use System>Admin>Users...
[12:34] <koer> im having trouble with sound rendering with kdenlive , help ?
[12:34] <penguin42> LjL: OK that's fair, I'm not sure what they'll come out like on a dumber irc client
[12:34] <andrea> thanks but i don't know what to do
[12:34] <hal14450_> dimas_, you need to look for the vbox group if you hold on a sec i'll check the name
[12:35] <LjL> penguin42, all the Ubuntu IRC clients support UTF-8
[12:35] <mlaissi> LinuxJuggalo: And it asks me to insert the CD (which I don't have)  :-(
[12:35] <andrea> i tried to reset the bios....
[12:35] <andrea> but nothing changed
[12:35] <dimas_> hal14450 thanks i will wait
[12:35] <Mookie> pici: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy
[12:35] <bascule> andrea: whats happening?
[12:35] <koer> im having trouble with sound rendering with kdenlive , help ?
[12:36] <bascule> !repeat > koer
[12:36] <penguin42> elivance: Now I'm confused - that seems to say your entire disc is an NTFS partition - how do you expect your machine to be partitioned?
[12:36] <koer> ?
[12:36] <penguin42> LjL: Fair enough
[12:36] <LjL> andrea: you could always try Gutsy. it's not stable yet, but it has a different kernel and may work for you given that Feisty does not
[12:36] <andrea> ubuntu auto-reboot while booting
[12:36] <kitche> penguin42: if the client does not support UTF-8 you would jusr see squares
[12:36] <Pici> Mookie: According to that those files should be in /boot/grub
[12:36] <hal14450_> dimas_, http://72.226.225.229:1234/Screenshot.png  <--- that should help
[12:37] <andrea> so the problem is in That kernel?
[12:37] <soundless> hi all, I need some help with mounting an usb harddisk
[12:37] <Innomen> can someone point me to a forum or the like that addresses "Error loading operating system" not having to do with a duel boot situation?
[12:37] <kitche> Innomen: usually that means no Boot loader
[12:37] <LjL> andrea, i cannot really know. you should check the logs and everything - which is hard to do if you cannot boot. can't you even boot into recovery mode?
[12:37] <Mookie> pici are the files supposed to be in there on the live cd or am i just copying them to the /boot/grub folder
[12:37] <LinuxJuggalo> !gcc | mlaissi
[12:37] <ubotu> mlaissi: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:37] <ray_> !beta
[12:37] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon (7.10) *BETA* information and release notes can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon/Beta - If you regularly update, then you're running the latest version - ISOs and Torrents at http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/gutsy/ - It is development software and as such unstable, support ONLY in #ubuntu+1
[12:38] <andrea> the same happens in recovery mode
[12:38] <elivance> penguin42: i like ducks
[12:38] <penguin42> Innomen: As well as the boot loader check that the bootable flag is set on the first partition - I've seen one or two odd bioses get upset by it
[12:38] <Sable> Everytime I run the update manager, about 15 seconds after it starts downloading updates, i lose internet.  I cannot even ping my router, but network manager says im connected.  To get it working, I have to restart the computer or disconnect/reconnect the usb adapter.  It works fine with all other internet stuff, it just stops working once I run the update manager.  Any ideas?
[12:38] <abdu0066> Can some tell me why mouse is not stable after i installed Ubuntu
[12:38] <Innomen> oky
[12:38] <soundless>  hi all, I need some help with mounting an usb harddisk
[12:38] <Innomen> I'll boot into the live cd and check the flags
[12:38] <penguin42> elivance: So do I, they seem to cope with our weather well
[12:38] <Pici> Mookie: I'm not sure if they are on the liveCD.  Sorry.
[12:38] <LjL> andrea: try adding one of these options to the kernel command line: "noacpi" and "acpi=off"
[12:38] <LjL> !boot > andrea    (andrea, see the private message from Ubotu) instructions for adding stuff to the kernel command line here
[12:38] <andrea> do you think it may help if i try kubuntu?
[12:38] <LjL> andrea: i don't think so
[12:39] <soundless> my usb harddisk doesn't automount anymore
[12:39] <mckensey> help in spanish please
[12:39] <elivance> penguin42: sorry - flatmates :p should be 2 partitions
[12:39] <Pici> !es | mckensey
[12:39] <ubotu> mckensey: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:39] <LjL> !es | mckensey
[12:39] <mlaissi> LinuxJuggalo : Is that a command or something ? (I'm the newbiest newbie ever)
[12:39] <mckensey> gracias
[12:39] <bascule> LjL: on an other os that symptom is almost always caused by bad sectors, would linux/ubuntu behave in the same way?
[12:39] <nieves> Sable, your trouble was mine
[12:39] <abdu0066> Can some tell me why mouse is not stable after i installed Ubuntu
[12:39] <Sable> nIEVES: dID YOU EVER FIX IT?
[12:39] <abdu0066> Can some tell me why mouse is not stable after i installed Ubuntu
[12:39] <Sable> Damn caps lock
[12:39] <nieves> yes,
[12:40] <Sable> What did you do
[12:40] <LjL> bascule: rebooting without finishing boot? no, i don't think ubuntu would do that because of bad sectors...
[12:40] <andrea> ok thanks a lot. I'll try
[12:40] <bascule> k
[12:40] <abdu0066> Can some tell me why mouse is not stable after i installed Ubuntu
[12:40] <erUSUL> abdu0066: what do you mean by "is not stable" ?
[12:40] <LjL> !repeat | abdu0066
[12:40] <ubotu> abdu0066: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[12:40] <_len> hi, I can't find the wine package on ubuntu 64 rep. Where can I get it?
[12:40] <penguin42> elivance: Oops - looks like one is missing then; if the partition is fully missing like that then backup all your data *NOW*
[12:40] <hal14450_> abdu0066, you might be using the wrong driver for it in xorg.conf
[12:40] <abdu0066> it jumps around
[12:40] <mlaissi> LjL : thank you for the tip but it asks me to insert the CD as it does't find the website containing that stuff : 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.37 80] 
[12:40] <dimas_> hal14450 where i can find the vitualbox windows to configure users?
[12:40] <penguin42> elivance: There are things to try and find starts of filesystems on the disc but it looks pretty mashed
[12:40] <nieves> I put off phone cable from my router, restart net and visit the URL of my own router
[12:41] <LjL> mlaissi: your repository list is probably messed up. you can create a new one from here:
[12:41] <LjL> !source-o-matic > mlaissi    (mlaissi, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:41] <nieves> then reconfigured it to avoid duplicate addresses
[12:41] <hal14450_> dimas_, are you registered on here it would be easier to help you out in a pm
[12:41] <LjL> mlaissi:  gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list  to modify it
[12:41] <nieves> perhaps it is also your problem
[12:41] <dimas_> hal14450 i think i got it my friend
[12:41] <hal14450_> good ;-)
[12:41] <RUL1> looking for some1 to help, PM me
[12:42] <Sable> Yeah, ive basically done all that
[12:42] <_len> hi, I can't find the wine package on ubuntu 64 rep. Where can I get it? or do I have to compile?
[12:42] <erUSUL> abdu0066: and it is only the mouse? or you notice something else missbehaving? maybe the machine is too loaded and that couses the mouse to not respond properly?
[12:42] <kitche> _len: from winehq.com
[12:42] <Sable> Anyone else know why package manager freezes my net connection about 15 seconds after it starts downloading?
[12:42] <hal14450_> dimas_, once you get the users added to the vboxusers group then just logout and back in again and you should be able to add a machine
[12:42] <_len> kitche: k i'm checking thx
[12:43] <bascule> erUSUL: nix doesn't do that ... unless there is an IRQ conflict on the USB
[12:43] <penguin42> Sable: Doees the same thing happen if you use aptitude from the command line?
[12:43] <kitche> _len: there is a section for 64-bit for ubuntu feisty whihc you need to read closely
[12:43] <RUL1> looking for some1 to help, PM me
[12:43] <dimas_> hal14450 thank you very much i got it
[12:43] <Sable> penguin: I'm a newb, i didnt know there was a command line for updating
[12:43] <hal14450_> dimas_, no problem you're welcome ;-)
[12:43] <_len> kitche: Community docs? or winehq doc?
[12:43] <Sable> Penguin: What is the command?  apt-get update?
[12:44] <steve___> Does anyone know of a way to download the apt-get source lists for both feisty *and* gutsy then have something like apt-show-versions -a PKG_NAME give results from both releases?
[12:44] <penguin42> Sable: OK, well do   sudo apt-get update   and see if that's OK
[12:44] <erUSUL> bascule: yes it does... check the kernel mailing list and all the flames around the new process scheduller (CFS)
[12:44] <penguin42> Sable: It shouldn't break anything - that's just the first hting
[12:44] <Sable> well if I disconenct, then you'll know it didnt work :)
[12:44] <RUL1> i am on windows now, need someone to help me to install ubuntu
[12:44] <Innomen> the rpoper drive is flagged boot
[12:44] <LjL> !install > RUL1    (RUL1, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:45] <bascule> erUSUL: I have never seen a nix box so hammered the mouse goes .. man that is nasty :(
[12:45] <Sable> Penguin: well, it didnt cause a disconnect, but I dont think it updated anything.  Get:12 http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/multiverse Sources [1052B] 
[12:45] <Sable> Fetched 202kB in 1s (117kB/s)
[12:45] <Sable> Reading package lists... Done
[12:45] <Sable> and it just did 11 gets before that
[12:45] <Sable> didnt install anything
[12:45] <penguin42> Sable: That's OK, the 'update' just updates the lists of packages available
[12:45] <Sable> oh
[12:45] <ray_> !beta
[12:45] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon (7.10) *BETA* information and release notes can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon/Beta - If you regularly update, then you're running the latest version - ISOs and Torrents at http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/gutsy/ - It is development software and as such unstable, support ONLY in #ubuntu+1
[12:46] <penguin42> Sable: OK, so that bit's OK - the next bit is   sudo apt-get upgrade   now this will actually install packages so might ask some questions
[12:46] <RUL1> why are u giving me the bot with some links, i need normal help
[12:46] <epsilorn> Hi all!!! Got a problem: all my 3d games exit to desktop whenever I try to change video settings (code 11), tried with openarena, alien arena, nexius and xmame vector games! Could you help me?
[12:46] <erUSUL> bascule: well the stress tests that the people use to "test" the scheduller are nasty ;) try a make -j 64 of the kernel sources XD
[12:46] <Sable> I'll try
[12:46] <penguin42> Sable: If the net connection goes then try and get the messages just before that happens
[12:46] <rgl> is there a normal cd install for gutsy beta?  I don't want to download a dvd :|
[12:46] <alpopel> hey..
[12:46] <bascule> erUSUL: omg, there is no need for that, but I supose it is a good way ...
[12:46] <LjL> rgl: of course. Gutsy questions in #ubuntu+1 though, please
[12:47] <rgl> LjL, thx.
[12:47] <erUSUL> bascule: but anyway you are right the second of my "shoots in the dark" about the mouse problem is a IRQ sharing problem
[12:47] <RUL1> when i am installingi have problems with graphic
[12:47] <d4rkmonkey> arg, I really gotta take off these stupid highlights...
[12:47] <bascule> erUSUL: I have seen USB go funnyon IRQ ... but never PS2
[12:47] <Sable> Can anyone see what I'm typing?
[12:47] <bascule> Sable: no
[12:47] <Innomen> Sable: yes
[12:48] <LjL> Sable: no
[12:48] <Sable> Penguoin: it went down
[12:48] <bascule> ;))
[12:48] <penguin42> Sable: interesting.... - can you paste the text into a paste-bin somewhere?
[12:48] <RUL1> heeeeeeeeelllllllpppppppppppp me alllllllllllllllllrrrrrreeeeeeaaaaadyyyyy
[12:48] <clouder> how do I turn tbz2 into tar.gz in one cli entry?
[12:48] <alecwh> Hello! I'm having trouble connecting to my school's WPA (personal) wireless network. I don't know why. I can connect to any network, except this one. All my friends with MacBooks can connect perfectly fine, along with a windows machine. Can someone help me out with this? I've checked, rechecked, and rerechecked the preferences for the network, and they are correct. What might be the problem/
[12:49] <bascule> Sable: after you type the first 3 letters of a nick hit the tab key, it auto-completes for you
[12:49] <penguin42> clouder: gzip -d < blah.tgz | gzip -d > blah.tbz2
[12:49] <penguin42> clouder: Sorry, that's half wrong
[12:49] <penguin42> clouder: bzip2 -d < blah.tbz | gzip  > blah.tgz
[12:49] <Sable> Penguin: It went down, no erros though.  THis is the last bit
[12:49] <Sable> After unpacking 3895kB of additional disk space will be used.
[12:49] <Sable> Do you want to continue [Y/n] ? y
[12:49] <Sable> Get:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates/main app-install-data 0.3.31 [4539kB] 
[12:49] <Sable> Get:2 http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/main openoffice.org-draw 2.2.0-1ubuntu4 [2312kB] 
[12:49] <Sable> Get:3 http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/main openoffice.org-filter-mobiledev 2.2.0-1ubuntu4 [96.1kB] 
[12:49] <sk8inrox> Does anyone know how to open a new tab in the terminal through an "sh" file?
[12:49] <Sable> Get:4 http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/main openoffice.org-java-common 2.2.0-1ubuntu4 [2811kB] 
[12:49] <Sable> Get:5 http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/main openoffice.org-base 2.2.0-1ubuntu4 [3496kB] 
[12:49] <Sable> 7% [5 openoffice.org-base 46495/3496kB 1%]  [1 app-install-data 3103060/4539kB 6
[12:49] <g0dd3ss> pl00d
[12:49] <bascule> Sable: stop
[12:49] <Sable> sorry basc
[12:50] <alecwh> !pastbin | Sable
[12:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:50] <alecwh> !pastebin
[12:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:50] <pacmanfan> will a dual-core CPU speed up compiling?
[12:50] <chamunks> Hey is there a way to mirror my /   to an equil sized partition with other drives on different mount points like /media/sda1/ and /bkp/
[12:50] <penguin42> Sable: If it went down that early before it installed anything then it has to be network related not package related
[12:50] <WoahWoah> Hey guys! I'm quite a new linux user and the help I've had from some people here has been amazing. This is a slightly different question, it's actually on music. I'm trying to locate a song sung by an (African American lady e.g Kelly Rowland, Beyonce?) Some of the lyrics are "Put your hands up...." and "About ya baby".... It's quite a dancey song
[12:50] <penguin42> pacmanfan: Ish
[12:50] <mlaissi> LjL : You're the man...
[12:50] <pacmanfan> Ish?
[12:50] <penguin42> pacmanfan: It will speed up compiling a large package because you can tell it to run more than one compilation in parallel
[12:50] <Pici> chamunks: look into dd, there are arguments for it to ignore certain directories.
[12:50] <jds2001> pacmanfan: make -j 2
[12:50] <penguin42> pacmanfan: It won't do much for a single .c file
[12:50] <Sable> Penguin: The only thing I'm not understanding is it only goes down with the package manager.  I can download files from websites and stuff and do anything just fine
[12:51] <pacmanfan> hmm... would Wine be considered a large package?
[12:51] <chamunks> Pici, dd being a rsync command or a different program alltogether?
[12:51] <penguin42> pacmanfan: Nod
[12:51] <alecwh> WoahWoah: This isn't the place to ask WHERE you can get the song. Check elsewhere.
[12:51] <Sable> Is there a way to download the updates from liek an ftp?
[12:51] <ikonia> cloude bunz2ip $file.bz2 && gzip $file.tar
[12:51] <Pici> chamunks: different program alltogether
[12:51] <penguin42> Sable: When you say it 'goes down' what do you mean ?
[12:51] <WoahWoah> LOL! Ok alecwh
[12:51] <bascule> Sable: change your sources
[12:51] <bascule> !sources > Sable
[12:51] <pacmanfan> alrighty, thanks!
[12:51] <sk8inrox> Does anyone know how to open a new tab in the terminal through an "sh" file?
[12:52] <Sable> Penguin: I have no internet.  It says I am connected, but I can't even poing my router, I get 100% packet loss.  I have to unplug and plug back in my adapter to get the internet to work
[12:52] <penguin42> pacmanfan: Depending on the package it won't do it automatically - you might have to pass a -j 3 to make to get it to do a few in parallel
[12:52] <bascule> sk8inrox: depends on the terminal type, konsole could do this with dcop
[12:52] <alecwh> sk8inrox: try /j #bash
[12:52] <penguin42> Sable: Weird
[12:52] <alecwh> Hello! I'm having trouble connecting to my school's WPA (personal) wireless network. I don't know why. I can connect to any network, except this one. All my friends with MacBooks can connect perfectly fine, along with a windows machine. Can someone help me out with this? I've checked, rechecked, and re-rechecked the preferences for the network, and they are correct. What might be the problem?
[12:52] <pacmanfan> penguin42, i don't have a dual-core processor, but i'm just wondering how much it would speed up compiles to have two cores.
[12:53] <penguin42> Sable: Try downloading one of the large files from the Ubuntu repository that apt was trying to get using wget or a web browser
[12:53] <chamunks> Pici, im coming up with many things here in my repo's  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39486/
[12:53] <Sable> k
[12:53] <sk8inrox> bascule: Its the gnome terminal. alecwh: Ill try that
[12:53] <pacmanfan> penguin42, Wine takes seemingly forever to compile on my Athlon XP 2600+, hehe.
[12:53] <bascule> pacmanfan: -j 3 is the way to do it
[12:53] <Innomen> how do i see my drives?
[12:53] <penguin42> pacmanfan: I find as well that dual cores tend to feel more responsive even when the machine is busy
[12:53] <chamunks> Pici, im assuming i want ddclient
[12:53] <Innomen> grub is not accepting /dev/sdc
[12:53] <druke> is there a way to disable the ALT+RMB popup?
[12:53] <LinuxJuggalo> !wireless | alecwh
[12:53] <ubotu> alecwh: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:53] <Pici> chamunks: its in the corutils package, you probably already have it installed
[12:54] <Innomen> it wants me to tell it (hd*) but i dont know what /dev/sdc means translated as (hd*)
[12:54] <alecwh> LinuxJuggalo: Thanks, I'll read through that. Are there any other wireless programs that I can use, to make sure it's not some obscure bug in the WirelessManager?
[12:54] <bascule> Sable: are you sure that adpater isn't faulty?
[12:54] <penguin42> Innomen: GRUB install should let you do /dev/sdc, if you are at a grub prompt then you can do (hd and hit tab to complete and it will show you the partitions
[12:54] <Sable> The adapter works fine with windows on thsi computer and 2 others
[12:54] <Innomen> why cant there be a standard drive reffrence system, this is silly. /dev/ hd* uuid, *tears hair out*
[12:54] <chamunks> Pici, ok i do so i wouldnt ask for a basic spoonfed example but im in a slight rush i need to mirror this before i head out so its done for later
[12:55] <druke> Innomen,  that is based on your bios's HD numbering IIRC
[12:55] <sk8inrox> alecwh, That didnt work..do I have to use bash or does it matter
[12:55] <Innomen> penguin42: will try
[12:55] <Sable> unfortunately, I cannot get my other adapter's drivers installed yet to test it out, but I've never had issues with this adapter
[12:55] <alecwh> sk8inrox: no, I meant try the channel #bash ;)
[12:55] <Innomen> hwo do i know which hd is sdc?
[12:55] <bascule> sk8inrox: the terminal might not support that operation at all
[12:55] <LinuxJuggalo> alecwh: wifi radar, sudo apt-get install wifi-radar
[12:55] <stella> hi
[12:55] <alecwh> LinuxJuggalo: I've tried that, to no prevail.
[12:55] <alecwh> any others, LinuxJuggalo
[12:55] <alecwh> ?
[12:56] <penguin42> Innomen: Do (hd it will list hd0, hd1 etc, then try (hd0, and tab complete it will show you the parititons - it will even let you look in some of the partitions
[12:56] <Innomen> oky thank you druke
[12:56] <Innomen> ahhh
[12:56] <Innomen> thank you penguin42
[12:56] <epsilorn> i have a problem with a wacom tablet, it works very well but only if i start linux with tablet already plugged in usb, if i plug it afterwards it behaves strangely, is there a way to make the tablet recgnizable upon plugging?
[12:56] <SpiffyBalak> epsilorn: what does it mount as?
[12:56] <Sable> !sources> Sable
[12:56] <LinuxJuggalo> alecwh: sorry i dont use wireless much
[12:56] <sk8inrox> alecwh, i knew that...lol jk :D
[12:57] <chamunks> Pici, kus basically i need to backup my core system kus /home /bkp and /media/sda1 are seperate drives
[12:57] <alecwh> LinuxJuggalo: Ok, thanks. :)
[12:57] <SpiffyBalak> epsilorn: you'll have to make a shortcut to unmount your tablet
[12:57] <LinuxJuggalo> alecwh: no problem :)
[12:57] <chamunks> Pici, im just trying to avoid having to script a bash file that will have all the rsync jobs in a list to run consecutively
[12:57] <Pici> chamunks: I'm looking for the argument I used...
[12:57] <marx2k> Having a big issue removing nvidia-glx :(
[12:57] <epsilorn> are you saying i have to unmoun t and remount it after i plug it in?
[12:57] <marx2k> looks like the install/remove script is broken
[12:57] <marx2k> !pastebin
[12:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:58] <Innomen> grub loads but says error 17 cannot mount selected parition
[12:58] <alecwh> What are some relatively good applications for wireless networks? (besides NetworkManager and wifi-radar)
[12:58] <SpiffyBalak> epsilorn: when you're done with it, you unmount it
[12:58] <chamunks> Pici, thanks Lots!
[12:58] <marx2k> Can someone look at this and help me? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39488/
[12:59] <epsilorn> SpiffyBalak: you mean I got not to turn off my pc without unmounting it?
[12:59] <SpiffyBalak> epsilorn: right
[12:59] <epsilorn> Ah ok thanks a lot! Now i'm going to try
[12:59] <corphip> I'm having issues getting my web server to load at boot.  I think it's a permissions problem.  Could someone walk me through some troubleshooting?
[12:59] <Pici> chamunks: Each thing you want to backup is on a seperate device?
[01:00] <chamunks> Pici, Seperate partition
[01:00] <alcaponage> How come I can't add my own images on the cube? Just the ones in "examples"?
[01:00] <Cryoniq> Which is the best mp3/ogg player for Ubuntu Linux?
[01:00] <druke> Is there a way to disable the ALT+RMB reaction when over a window (I'm trying to use that particular shortcut in blender)
[01:00] <usr13> marx2k: sudo apt-get -f install
[01:00] <theMuss> Hey complete noob with ubuntu - just installed it and have the dhcp picking up my settings but it seems to be giving me an out of range ip. Anyone know a good guide i can read
[01:00] <Pici> chamunks: Can you unmount them? perhaps while using a liveCD? they need to be unmounted to work
[01:00] <marx2k> usr13: same exact error
[01:00] <_Lucretia_> can somebody tell me how to get an iso-8599-1 locale that I can use temporarily to update an svn tree for a specific project which doesn't support utf8? thanks
[01:00] <bascule> having installed kubuntu-desktop can I safely uninstall ubuntu-desktop?
[01:00] <RULR> need help, pm
[01:01] <superman> http://pastebin.com/m44368062
[01:01] <astro76> theMuss, what IP are you getting?
[01:01] <chamunks> Pici, im basically just looking to have a point where i can return to if i fubar my buntu without having to reinstall and reconfigure
[01:01] <kitche> bascule: yes since it's just a meta package
[01:01] <superman> i knwo this is regular error but how else am i ment to play my dvd
[01:01] <sk8inrox> alecwh, I just figured it out..just thought id tell you how in case you were wondering.  You just do "--tab --working-directory -e 'blah blah blah'"
[01:01] <bascule> kitche: thanks, idn't wanna break stuff :)
[01:01] <mlaissi> LjL : the  sudo apt-get install build-essential command is ok but still no gcc or cc found... help please!!
[01:01] <cypher1> marx2k, looks like both the packages nvidia-glx and xorg-driver-fglrx has delivered same file
[01:01] <Pici> chamunks: read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem
[01:01] <marx2k> cypher: how do i fix the issue?
[01:01] <astro76> RULR, if you want help ask your question to the channel
[01:01] <usr13> marx2k: sudo apt-get -f install  nvidia-glx
[01:01] <SpiffyBalak> superman: you gotta get the win32 codecs
[01:01] <chamunks> Pici, and i dont think i will be able to unmount /home though im sure i can unmount /bkp and /media/sda1
[01:02] <Pici> !ask | RULR
[01:02] <ubotu> RULR: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:02] <alecwh> sk8inrox: Thanks for sharing. ;)
[01:02] <LjL> mlaissi: that's quite weird, if you just type "gcc", does it say anything?
[01:02] <superman> are they on repositries?
[01:02] <bascule> RULR: don't do that again
[01:02] <theMuss> astro76: looks like 169.254.3.254 - Thanks
[01:02] <RULR> sry, i didnt know...
[01:02] <Innomen> from my reading it apear grub is the problem
[01:02] <marx2k> usr13: heres an issue..that works (thanks!) but it removes my ati-fglrx drivers which I need installed also since this is a USB drive that I run on computers with both ATI and NVidia cards
[01:02] <Innomen> !lilo
[01:02] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[01:03] <bascule> RULR: nobody knows the questio, ask it
[01:03] <Innomen> can lilo be instaled offline form the livecd?
[01:03] <mlaissi> LjL: command not foud. sudo find / -type f -name gcc doesn't return anything either... :-S
[01:03] <astro76> theMuss, your computer is connected to a modem?
[01:03] <Cryoniq> Hmm Will my fiance love me more when I have Ubuntu installed? :P
[01:03] <riotkittie> Innomen: i'm not sure if lilo's on the discs
[01:03] <alecwh> Innomen: I don't believe so.
[01:03] <Innomen> gah
[01:03] <riotkittie> !info lilo
[01:03] <ubotu> lilo: LInux LOader - The Classic OS loader can load Linux and others. In component main, is optional. Version 1:22.6.1-9ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 342 kB, installed size 1088 kB
[01:04] <Innomen> i get error 17 cant mount partition
[01:04] <bascule> Cryoniq: she will need to, it will be a testing time for you both .. :)
[01:04] <Innomen> my drive is sata
[01:04] <chamunks> Pici, so let me think i can mirror the /dev/hda1/ would it make sense to just mirror those to eachother rather than having to screw with any mounting at all?
[01:04] <erUSUL> mlaissi: did you instaled build-essential ?
[01:04] <theMuss> astro76: router - i've just taken on xp and wacked it on
[01:04] <LjL> mlaissi: are you sure build-essential installed successfully? it *always* includes gcc
[01:04] <Pici> chamunks: Its really up to you.
[01:04] <riotkittie> mmm. i love cryptic error messages
[01:04] <Cryoniq> :)
[01:04] <mlaissi> erUSUL: yep
[01:05] <marx2k> usr13: do you have a solution for both ATI and NVidia drivers to coexist on an install?
[01:05] <astro76> theMuss, so you're getting a public IP and should be getting a private one from the router?
[01:05] <chamunks> Pici, ok so that doesent seem like it wouldent work?
[01:05] <Pici> chamunks: No, it should work.
[01:05] <erUSUL> mlaissi: dpkg -L gcc
[01:05] <mlaissi> LjL: all I can find is some directory called /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.0.2
[01:05] <theMuss> astro76: yeah, i think so - i'm feeling my way around a bit
[01:05] <Cryoniq> Wish ATI/AMD would release and make better drivers for my ATI9800 pro...
[01:05] <RULR> (dont speak english very well) problems with instalation, graphics... i insered my Ubuntu 7.04 wich i have downloaded from offical page and boot loading was ok but when it finishes i cant see my desktop and 2 icons ("install") is one of them
[01:05] <usr13> marx2k: no
[01:06] <chamunks> Pici, sorry bout the round about question just havnt done it before so i didnt really know what questions to start with :P
[01:06] <marx2k> usr13: is it impossible?
[01:06] <riotkittie> RULR: you may want to try the alternate CD if you are having problems with the live discr
[01:06] <riotkittie> disc*
[01:06] <RULR> only strange changing colours onmy monitor
[01:06] <kitche> Cryoniq: hard to do with that not being supported but soon the specs will be out for their cards so it'll be easier to make drivers
[01:06] <usr13> marx2k: I don't know really, you'll have to ask someone else.
[01:06] <ckin2001> kitche, specs out now
[01:06] <marx2k> ok thanks for your help anyway :)
[01:06] <Innomen> "From what I understand, GRUB is owned by whichever file system location was used to install it. If you changed the location of the file system the boot loader goes to, it will give Error 17."
[01:06] <astro76> RULR, you can also try asking in #ubuntu-hr , I'm assuming that's your native language ;)
[01:06] <Cryoniq> kitche: the specs for 9800 also?
[01:07] <RULR> i will look for it on page
[01:07] <mlaissi> erUSUL : I get "The package gcc is not installed"
[01:07] <RULR> THANKS astro76
[01:07] <kitche> ckin2001: yes but hte dummy driver have not been made yet from my understanding
[01:07] <Innomen> Does this mean when i select ubuntu its trying to load from the wrong partition?
[01:07] <marx2k> Does anyone know a method to have ATI and NVidia drivers to coexist on an Ubuntu install?
[01:07] <LjL> mlaissi: what does  apt-cache policy build-essential  say?
[01:07] <mlaissi> LjL: I have some executable file named cc1, you know what it is for ?
[01:07] <erUSUL> mlaissi: but build-essential depends on it it should be instaled
[01:08] <alcaponage> How come when I go to shut down, it wont' shut down?
[01:08] <myteron> marx2k: manualy configure x
[01:08] <cypher1> marx2k, i think looking at the manpage of dpkg-divert will help you
[01:08] <marx2k> cypher1: already figured that problem out :)
[01:08] <myteron> alcaponage, acpi issue
[01:08] <cypher1> marx2k, how ?
[01:09] <marx2k> myteron: yes I got xorg.conf's for both NVidia and ATI... but can I not have the nvidia-glx and ati-fglrx drivers installed at the same time?
[01:09] <marx2k> cypher: apt-get -f install nvidia-glx
[01:09] <alcaponage> myteron: what is that acpi?
[01:09] <mlaissi> LjL : it says: Installed (none), Candidate 11.3,  Table of version 11.3 0, 500 http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main Packages   (that's my translation from french)
[01:09] <Pici> marx2k: Why do you think you can't have both?
[01:10] <myteron> marx2k, you might need to check out howtos for setting up a multi console machine
[01:10] <LjL> mlaissi: then build-essential was *not* installed succesfully. try  sudo apt-get update  then  sudo apt-get install build-essential  again
[01:10] <marx2k> Pici: trying to install the deb package of one requires I remove the other :
[01:10] <mlaissi> LjL, erUSUL : I'm gonna try the build-essential again
[01:10] <erUSUL> mlaissi: so you didn't install build-essential after all
[01:10] <Pici> marx2k: What are the two package names?
[01:10] <myteron> alcaponage, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACPI
[01:10] <marx2k> Pici: nvidia-glx and xorg-driver-fglrx
[01:11] <mlaissi> LjL, erUSUL : Now It freezes at 99% : "99% [Connexion  seveas.imbrandon.com (209.40.196.87)] "
[01:11] <myteron> marx2k, is this a package dep prob?
[01:11] <chamunks> Pici, thanks lots gotta jet
[01:11] <pavel> is there a forum application for ubuntu? that doesnt use php?
[01:11] <mlaissi> LjL, erUSUL : and this host is not pingable ... :-S
[01:12] <marx2k> myteron: doesnt seem to be, when i try to install fglrx, it tells me it needs to remove the nvidia-glx install first :/
[01:12] <bmk789> i have 2 partitions in an LVM with several GB of files, how do i get these files out of an LVM onto a normal partition?
[01:12] <LjL> mlaissi: that server is down. select only the official Ubuntu repositories from source-o-matic
[01:12] <_len> does any1 know any flash player plugin for ubuntu 64
[01:12] <myteron> marx2k, well you can force the install but I am not sure if thats the way you want to go
[01:12] <alcaponage> myteron: how do i fix it?
[01:12] <LjL> mlaissi: in other words, leave just the defaults selected
[01:12] <myteron> alcaponage, good question *g*
[01:12] <marx2k> here check it out: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39490/
[01:13] <mlaissi> LjL : ok I commented this one and I'll try it again ...
[01:13] <Pici> marx2k: Hm... Thats odd.
[01:13] <myteron> alcaponage, will it switch off when you type halt into a root console?
[01:13] <marx2k> I agree
[01:13] <Innomen> Sudo grub > setup (hd2,0) > Error 17: Cannot mount selected parition
[01:13] <alcaponage> yes
[01:13] <kevinG> hey, are a bunch of repositories down, or something?
[01:13] <Innomen> from within live cd this time
[01:13] <ubuntu_> hi I want to reset my root password
[01:13] <ubuntu_> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo chroot /mnt
[01:13] <ubuntu_> chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Exec format error
[01:13] <ubuntu_> I get that when trying to chroot
[01:14] <LjL> ...
[01:14] <Pici> marx2k: I'm not sure.  I'd check bugs.ubuntu.com to see if someone has reported it.
[01:14] <myteron> ubuntu_, you might just delete it from shadow
[01:14] <MongooseWA> how do i delete podcast feeds in rhythmbox? i've gone into the xml file and deleted stuff, but i still get inundated with download error messages.
[01:14] <ckin2001> ubuntulog, sudo passwd :?
[01:14] <ckin2001> eek
[01:14] <LjL> he's left.
[01:14] <marx2k> Pici: Yep I'll try
[01:14] <Pici> hes not here anymore.
[01:15] <kahrytan> MongooseWA, why you using rhythmbox?
[01:15] <MongooseWA> cuz i like it?
[01:15] <elivance> penguin42: sorry about that - got abducted by flatmates
[01:15] <Innomen> so ubuntu is incapable pof booting from a sata drive?
[01:15] <ghostdog> help me :((
[01:15] <LjL> !helpme
[01:15] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:15] <astro76> Innomen, of course not
[01:15] <mlaissi> LjL, erUSUL : well now it stopped quickly. It says : <... try "apt-get -f install"  without package...> and I'm trying that
[01:16] <LjL> mlaissi: yes. with sudo, though. means some packages were broken.
[01:16] <Innomen> astro76: they should make that clear from the start :)
[01:16] <kahrytan> MongooseWA, just dont use it with an ipod. it's not compatible with itunes.
[01:16] <astro76> Innomen, make it clear that sata works fine?
[01:16] <Innomen> no
[01:16] <astro76> Innomen, you asked if it was incapable, I said no :p
[01:16] <astro76> Innomen, it works fine
[01:17] <MongooseWA> who said anything about an ipod?
[01:17] <mlaissi> LjL : yep with sudo... it's doing some cleaning ups and some updates ...
[01:17] <Innomen> ahh i thought you were saying of course it cant boot and it was silly to ask
[01:17] <Innomen> and you were being funny
[01:17] <Innomen> :P
[01:17] <Innomen> well it wont mount the partiiton even from the live cd
[01:17] <Innomen> i'm at a loss
[01:17] <hab> Hey, I'm trying to find an application like Korganizer (personal organizer/calendar) for GNOME. Any suggestions?
[01:18] <marx2k> Pici: Check out https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-November/022308.html
[01:18] <erUSUL> hab: evolution
[01:18] <hab> erUSUL: It has a built-in one?
[01:18] <Innomen> grub is setup, i get the menu, and bam error 17, supergrub cant even directly boot the install, it just blinks, and reboots which takes me right back to the grub thats on the hd
[01:18] <Pici> hab: sunbird? its not in the feisty repos though.
[01:18] <erUSUL> hab: calendar? yes
[01:18] <hab> erUSUL: Thanks
[01:19] <hab> Pici: I'll check it out.
[01:19] <mlaissi> LjL, erUSUL: Yes!! I have gcc now !! thank you people i really appreciate your help :)
[01:19] <Innomen> :)
[01:19] <astro76> Innomen, does sudo fdisk -l show it on the live cd?
[01:20] <ajax4> !gutsy
[01:20] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[01:20] <Innomen> yes
[01:20] <astro76> Innomen, what error do you get when attempting to mount?
[01:20] <Innomen> /dev/sdc1
[01:20] <Innomen> error 17
[01:20] <Innomen> cannt mount parition
[01:20] <Innomen> Really descriptive
[01:20] <ubuntu_> root@ubuntu:/# passwd
[01:20] <ubuntu_> passwd: Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info
[01:20] <ubuntu_> passwd: password unchanged
[01:20] <ubuntu_> How do I fix this
[01:21] <FFighter> hello folks
[01:21] <FFighter> I've got Ubuntu feisty fawn
[01:21] <FFighter> with Gnome
[01:21] <epsilorn> SpiffyBalak: hey, how do I unmount my Tablet? if i look dmesg it says
[01:21] <epsilorn> usb 5-2: USB disconnect, address 3
[01:21] <epsilorn> [ 3169.104000]  usb 5-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4
[01:21] <epsilorn> [ 3169.276000]  usb 5-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[01:21] <epsilorn> [ 3169.280000]  input: Wacom Intuos3 6x8 as /class/input/input8
[01:21] <FFighter> but I'd like to switch to XFCE
[01:21] <Pici> !enter
[01:21] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:21] <FFighter> how could I do that?
[01:21] <FFighter> install xfce from synaptic?
[01:21] <epsilorn> SpiffyBalak: hey, how do I unmount my Tablet? if i look dmesg it says
[01:21] <epsilorn> usb 5-2: USB disconnect, address 3
[01:21] <epsilorn> [ 3169.104000]  usb 5-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4
[01:21] <epsilorn> [ 3169.276000]  usb 5-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[01:21] <epsilorn> [ 3169.280000]  input: Wacom Intuos3 6x8 as /class/input/input8
[01:21] <astro76> !paste | epsilorn
[01:21] <ubotu> epsilorn: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:22] <astro76> FFighter, install xubuntu-desktop
[01:22] <epsilorn> SpiffyBalak: hey, how do I unmount my Tablet? if i look dmesg it says
[01:22] <epsilorn> usb 5-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[01:22] <epsilorn> [ 3169.280000]  input: Wacom Intuos3 6x8 as /class/input/input8
[01:22] <mneptok> ubuntu_: do not set a root password
[01:22] <mneptok> ubuntu_: use sudo.
[01:23] <FFighter> astro76, thank you - and how could I get rid of gnome or maybe de-activate it so that XFCE becomes the default DE?
[01:23] <epsilorn> SpiffyBalak: sorry to bother you again
[01:23] <ubuntu_> mneptok: wowomg... what if I forgot my main user pass and dont have any root pass lol
[01:23] <ubuntu_> bai
[01:23] <astro76> FFighter, I think when you install it the xfce login manager will become default
[01:23] <stouset> I've installed Ubuntu on a Mac Pro, and hitting up/left/down/right/pgup/pgdown/home/end in aptitude causes it to crash. Anyone know why?
[01:23] <DoYouKnow> Anyone here have success in getting direct rendering working with compiz-fusion on Radeon Xpress 200M video hardware?
[01:24] <FFighter> astro76, Cool.. then I think it is just a matter of removing ubuntu-desktop (apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop) to remove Gnome?
[01:24] <stouset> In vim, those keys produce ^\
[01:24] <FFighter> astro76, even though GTK+ must remain
[01:24] <astro76> ubuntulog, what if you forget a root password? that's not an argument for not using sudo
[01:24] <astro76> ubuntu_ ^
[01:24] <epsilorn> someone good solving 3d card problems?
[01:24] <Innomen> the fiel search in ubuntu apears to suck, does it not know to check subfolders?
[01:24] <stouset> In fact, it looks like they all send Ctrl+\
[01:24] <astro76> FFighter, I don't think there's an easy way to fully remove the ubuntu desktop
[01:25] <FFighter> astro76, When I say ubuntu-desktop I mean the Gnome DE
[01:25] <astro76> FFighter, indeed
[01:25] <Pelo> FFighter, there is hold on I'll give it to you
[01:25] <Innomen> where would menu.lst be?
[01:25] <Pelo> Innomen, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:25] <astro76> Innomen, locate menu.lst
[01:25] <Innomen> thank you
[01:25] <Sable> what is blacklisting in reference to networking stuff?  I blacklisted rtl8187 /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and my internet seems to be working correctly
[01:26] <stouset> Anyone know a reasonable reason why up, left, down, right, pgup, pgdown, home, and end would send Ctrl+\ in the console?
[01:26] <FFighter> astro76, well, thank you for the help ... on my way to XFCE
[01:26] <FFighter> :)
[01:26] <DoYouKnow> Sable, it prevents that driver from loading
[01:26] <Innomen> and how would i get a translation of /dev to (hd*) ?
[01:26] <Pelo> FFighter, use the third command listed and after run sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop to make sure you ddn'T remove anything you needed   http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[01:26] <DoYouKnow> Sable, you can prevent any module from loading by blacklisting that module
[01:27] <FFighter> Pelo, thanks
[01:27] <Sable> How do I know what I blacklisted
[01:27] <Sable> I dont know what rtl8187 is
[01:27] <Pelo> FFighter,  if it is xubuntu you want run  sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop after you hyave removed ubuntu-desktop
[01:28] <Pelo> Innomen,    the  grub nomenclature starts with  O   where hdA,B    A is the hdd and B the parttion
[01:28] <marcus_> hey Im thinking of switching to Ubuntu when 7.10 comes out
[01:28] <FFighter> What is the difference between apt-get and aptitutde after all?
[01:28] <Innomen> right but what does grub call dev/sdc1/ ?
[01:29] <warrior> HELP ME PLEASE CI SIETE
[01:29] <marcus_> I use linux mint now
[01:29] <warrior> HELP ME!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:29] <decay> How do i check which version of gnome is installed?
[01:29] <warrior> HI
[01:29] <bascule> FFighter: aptitude is curses based which means it has a gui of sorts
[01:29] <Pelo> FFighter, aptitude has a few extra feature , amongst other things it will check to remove dependencies
[01:29] <Pelo> warrior,  state your problem
[01:29] <Pici> !ask | warrior
[01:29] <ubotu> warrior: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:29] <Pelo> Decadent,  menu > system>  about gnome
[01:29] <FFighter> Pelo, well, apt-get also removes dependencies, at least on Feisty
[01:29] <Innomen> gah
[01:29] <Innomen> the menu is indeed pointing to the right parition and drive
[01:29] <decay> No it does not
[01:30] <FFighter> but it installs dependencies
[01:30] <FFighter> :
[01:30] <FFighter> :] 
[01:30] <Pelo> FFighter,  no it doesn'T  not automaticaly, I mean dependencies when you remove the package they depend from
[01:30] <FFighter> why wouldn't it remove these dependencies?
[01:30] <decay> i always use aptitude...hate uninstalling something and leaving scraps behind
[01:30] <Innomen> (hd2,0) is /dev/sdc1 is the ubuntu installed parition
[01:30] <Pelo> Innomen, sounds about right
[01:30] <Innomen> so it boots it finds the menu, i tell it to boot, and still error 17
[01:30] <warrior> i'm a italy...do not understand english....i'm love linux...hacker...and your's....OK?
[01:30] <Innomen> what now?
[01:30] <nickrud> I hate that I have to go through and mark packages for automatic removal after a fresh install
[01:31] <FFighter> warrior, hey welcome
[01:31] <decay> i always use aptitude...hate uninstalling something and leaving scraps behind
[01:31] <Pici> !it | warrior
[01:31] <decay> oops
[01:31] <warrior> hey
[01:31] <decay> How do i check which version of gnome is installed?
[01:31] <FFighter> System->About Gnome?
[01:31] <ubotu> warrior: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:31] <bascule> help -> about gnome
[01:31] <Pelo> Innomen,  http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html  or try asking in #grub
[01:31] <decay> well that worked
[01:31] <decay> thanks
[01:31] <Pelo> Decadent,  menu > system>  about gnome
[01:31] <Innomen> its not the loader
[01:32] <decay> and now, how do i upgrade gnome?
[01:32] <Innomen> it did this before i used the loader
[01:32] <Innomen> or rather it said "error loading operating system
[01:32] <Pelo> Innomen, make sure the partition is flagged to boot
[01:32] <Innomen> all i've done is add an elaborate path to where it was going anyway
[01:32] <Innomen> it is according to the gnome parition manager
[01:32] <warrior> FFighter: i look your's for language.... is difficulty for me! i'm ;(
[01:33] <Pelo> !it | warrior
[01:33] <ubotu> warrior: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:33] <FFighter> warrior, well, my native language is not English, but I'm fairly comfortable with it - I think you should go to ubuntu-it if you're not comfortable with English
[01:33] <Innomen> why did the install make 3 paritions?
[01:33] <Innomen> 1 ubuntu install
[01:33] <Innomen> 1 swap
[01:33] <orionr> hey is anyone in here running 7.10
[01:33] <Innomen> whats the other one?
[01:34] <Beefheart> whats the command to copy in a terminal please?
[01:34] <warrior> Pelo:no! i'm chat now qui!
[01:34] <kitche> Beefheart: cp for copy
[01:34] <Pelo> Innomen, the swap is embeded in an extended partition
[01:34] <Pici> orionr: Yes. #ubuntu+1 for more questions.
[01:34] <Pici> !offtopic | warrior
[01:34] <Beefheart> thanks
[01:34] <ubotu> warrior: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:34] <Innomen> ahh
[01:34] <decay> cp file.txt ~
[01:34] <decay> that would copy file.txt to your home dir
[01:34] <Innomen> which is why grub sees 2 and fdisk sees 3?
[01:34] <LjL> _ n=ubuntu 213
[01:34] <Innomen> because one of them is "embedded" in the other?
[01:35] <bascule> Innomen: grub has no interest in swap
[01:35] <Pelo> no , grug should see the same amounts of partition
[01:35] <Innomen> oky
[01:35] <Pelo> grub
[01:35] <Innomen> so it just ignores it
[01:35] <Innomen> cool
[01:35] <bascule> ?maybe
[01:35] <Pelo> Innomen,  why don't you pastebin your  menu.lst file so we can have a look
[01:35] <Beefheart> so, if i was to copy a folder from one location to another, what parameters would i use please?
[01:35] <g0dd3ss> hai friendz, can anyone please recommend me a good app for decrypting dvd's on ubuntu
[01:35] <Innomen> oky hold on
[01:35] <Innomen> wait
[01:35] <Innomen> cant
[01:35] <bascule> cp /some/file /some/where
[01:35] <Innomen> that machine wont see the net
[01:35] <bascule> Beefheart: ^^
[01:36] <Pelo> Innomen,  got as flash drive ?
[01:36] <Beefheart> bascule, haha I really had some probs after my last driver attempt
[01:36] <Innomen> oh
[01:36] <Innomen> duh
[01:36] <Innomen> yea hold on
[01:36] <warrior> FFighter:ok i'm aggiorned ubuntu feisty a gutsy! it is ok! sorry for the incorrect language!
[01:36] <bascule> Beefheart: were you tring intel instead of i810, that guy ..?
[01:37] <Beefheart> bascule, yes
[01:37] <Beefheart> found out of it
[01:37] <Pelo> warrior wait untill the OFFICIAL release  on october 18
[01:37] <Beefheart> but now im back to old driver
[01:37] <bascule> k
[01:37] <Pelo> LjL,  what was that for ?
[01:37] <Innomen> !pastebin
[01:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:37] <LjL> Pelo: PM abuse.
[01:38] <Pelo> ic
[01:38] <Pelo> carry on
[01:38] <Beefheart> bascule, what should be first in the cP ? destination of copy or the file to be copied?
[01:38] <bascule> Beefheart: <object> <destination>
[01:38] <Beefheart> bascule, ty
[01:38] <scalawag> Can anyone tell me why it might take a long time to load web pages...only happens in Ubuntu, had Vista before this, and have tried live-cd's and it flies
[01:39] <LjL> Pelo: it's *always* a good idea.
[01:39] <scalawag> I have highspeed internet, my gnutella downloads fly and there is no lag in any other ap...just firefox.
[01:39] <Innomen> dont know if i did that right
[01:39] <Innomen> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39491/
[01:39] <Pelo> scalawag, try to look up ipv6 in the forum  there are instructions on how to disable it www.ubuntuforums.org,   and the number of  pluggins you have might also be an issue
[01:39] <Pelo> Innomen, hold on
[01:40] <Innomen> *holds*
[01:40] <Beefheart> bascule, it is possible to cope a full folder right?
[01:40] <Beefheart> copy*
[01:40] <bascule> cp -a
[01:40] <Pelo> Innomen, what is the /dev/.... addy of your ubuntu partition again ?
[01:40] <Beefheart> ty
[01:41] <Innomen> /dev/sdc1
[01:41] <Innomen> that is one of 3 partitions on the drive
[01:41] <Innomen> all of which the ubuntu installer made
[01:41] <Innomen> swap extended and main
[01:42] <Pelo> Innomen,   open a terminal    type blkid and compare the uuid of the sdc1 partition to the one listed in the command in menu.lst
[01:42] <Innomen> oky
[01:42] <Beefheart> how do i view the folder in xwin ? the folder is not there, i can only get to it Via terminal
[01:42] <borovy3488> can anyone help me with my BitTorrent problems?
[01:42] <Pelo> borovy3488, what is your bittorrent problem ?
[01:42] <bascule> Beefheart: what folder, gimme /path/to/folder
[01:43] <Innomen> yup, they match
[01:43] <Innomen> same as yesterday
[01:43] <Innomen> apprently my problem was not a duel boot issue
[01:43] <Beefheart> bascule, root@carlcfrost-laptop:/home/carlcfrost/.cedega/Anarchy Online/c_drive/Program Files/Funcom/Anarchy Online#
[01:43] <Pelo> what are the other hdd on your computer ?
[01:43] <borovy3488> Pelo: are you always on here, man?  My problem is that I have forwarded all the ports, and Can You See Me says that they are open.  I have tried Azureus and BitTornado as well.  All only give about 4 KB max.
[01:43] <Innomen> 2 ide 300gb encrypted volumes
[01:44] <Pelo> borovy3488,  what is the torrent you are using ?
[01:44] <Pelo> Innomen, what isthe boot hdd of his comp ?
[01:44] <Innomen> livecd sees them as unformatted basiclly as they should
[01:44] <bascule> Beefheart: press ctrl+H in nautilus, you will see .cedega
[01:44] <Beefheart> bascule, my goal is to replace that folder with another one with the right patch
[01:44] <Innomen> sata primary 120gb
[01:44] <borovy3488> Pelo: what do you mean?  its a movie from pirate bay
[01:44] <Pelo> Innomen,  i mean , what is on it ?
[01:44] <Innomen> ubuntu
[01:44] <Innomen> 3 paritions
[01:44] <Innomen> main swap and extended
[01:44] <NixMan> so when does gutsy officially come out?
[01:45] <Beefheart> bascule, thanks
[01:45] <Innomen> swap and extended are 4.5gb and the rest is the ubuntu install
[01:45] <usr13>  NixMan couplaweeks
[01:45] <Pelo> borovy3488,  if you want to test your bittorrent you should get one of the fast torrent , like a distro for testing,  goto   www.utorrent.com,  check in the guide section ,  open the setup guide, there are a few good torrents for testing in there
[01:45] <NixMan> usr13: alrighty
[01:45] <NixMan> sounds good
[01:45] <Pelo> Innomen, so your ubuntu hdd is the boot hdd ?
[01:45] <mneptok> borovy3488: what ports did you open?
[01:45] <Innomen> yes, and without grub it says "error loading operating system"
[01:46] <Pelo> Innomen, change hd2.0 to  hd0,0
[01:46] <NixMan> will i be able to upgrade from feisty very easily
[01:46] <bmk789> can someone help me remove a drive from LVM?
[01:46] <TheRepacker> Hi All, because of a known problem with nvidia 100.14.11 and 14.19 drivers, nvidia is recommending as a workaround to install 100.14.09, but that is not in the repros, anyone know of an easy way to install in Gutsy?
[01:46] <Innomen> change where?
[01:46] <Pelo> Innomen,  in menu.lst
[01:46] <borovy3488> Pelo: Thanks ill check it out.
[01:46] <Innomen> oky
[01:46] <ikonia> !gusty >TheRepacker
[01:46] <borovy3488> mneptok: hang on just a sec. let me check.
[01:46] <kitche> TheRepacker: #ubuntu+1 for gutsy support
[01:46] <bascule> !gusty
[01:46] <ubotu> It is spelt !guTSy :)
[01:46] <NixMan> exit
[01:46] <bascule> ;)
[01:47] <hwilde> anybody ever have a problem with apt-get or dpkg launching a separate totally random program?
[01:47] <Pelo> Innomen,  fyi ,   the grub nomenclature for hdd is based on the boot order   ie the boot hdd is always hd0
[01:47] <g0dd3ss> hai friendz, can anyone please recommend me a good app for decrypting dvd's on ubuntu
[01:47] <Pelo> hwilde, as in what program ?
[01:47] <bruenig> hwilde, it does that in post install scripts often
[01:47] <borovy3488> mneptok: 6881 to 6999 and 49152 to 65524
[01:47] <bruenig> although it is hardly random
[01:47] <Pelo> !dvd > g0dd3ss check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[01:47] <hwilde> Pelo, bruenig,  I am trying to install mysql, but it launches a completely random program
[01:48] <TheRepacker> this is not just a Gutsy problem affects all multi-core CPUs and series 7 GPUs
[01:48] <Pelo> hwilde,  what random program , give us an exemple
[01:48] <tim167desktop> hello, i have a usb disk / mp3 player. i mounted it, put some files on it, then plugged into another computer, now i cannot access it anymore, the files have a lock icon help! thank you
[01:48] <bruenig> hwilde, how does it launch a random program, does it assign each program a random number and then use a random number generator to pick between them
[01:48] <mneptok> borovy3488: you want to open 6881-6889 TCP and UDP. and then check the client configuration
[01:48] <FFighter> hey folks
[01:48] <g0dd3ss> thankx Pelo
[01:48] <FFighter> where is the keyboard configurator in XFCE
[01:48] <g0dd3ss> thanks*
[01:48] <Pelo> tim167desktop, what is the format of the flash player ?
[01:48] <bruenig> FFighter, the thing that says keyboard settings
[01:48] <FFighter> I installed XFCE and my keyboard layout is messed up
[01:48] <bascule> bruenig: lamao, straight onto form :))
[01:48] <FFighter> Pelo, SWF
[01:48] <mneptok> FFighter: please ask in #xubuntu
[01:49] <Pelo> FFighter, ????
[01:49] <borovy3488> mneptok: i did, did you not see last post?
[01:49] <FFighter> mneptok, ok
[01:49] <mneptok> borovy3488: then nothing is wrong
[01:49] <borovy3488> mneptok: also, I'm not sure how to configure the built-in BT client
[01:49] <blahdeblah> Hi.  Is there an update repository similar to Debian volatile where i can get a newer version of clamav?  My feisty machine complains with these error messages:   WARNING: Your ClamAV installation is OUTDATED!     WARNING: Local version: 0.90.2 Recommended version: 0.91.2
[01:49] <tim167desktop> Pelo; i dont know, i have used it before, but putting the last file on it seems to have broken it, can i format this disk ?
[01:49] <Innomen> pelo!
[01:49] <Innomen> you are the man
[01:49] <mneptok> blahdeblah: backports
[01:49] <Pelo> tim167desktop,  what model ?
[01:50] <Pelo> Innomen,  are you just figuring that out ?
[01:50] <Innomen> and finally it boots into ubuntu
[01:50] <hwilde> Pelo, bruenig,   apt-get and dpkg both launch the carmen project, which I have moved, renamed, and deleted.   check this pastebin - I am stumped  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39492/
[01:50] <bruenig> blahdeblah, that means that you have a repo with 0.91.2 as that is the only way it could know of the newer version to begin with
[01:50] <tim167desktop> Pelo unknown brand...let me check
[01:50] <FFighter> Pelo, you were asking what format the Flash Player runs
[01:50] <blahdeblah> mneptok: I'm pretty sure backports is enabled on my system already...
[01:50] <Pelo> FFighter,  not your ,  tim's
[01:50] <blahdeblah> bruenig: the complaint is coming from clamav itself because the definitions require a new functionality level.
[01:51] <tim167desktop> Pelo: it says "smartsonic Stereo mp4"
[01:51] <Pelo> FFighter,  and I meant his mp3 flash player
[01:51] <FFighter> Pelo, there isn`t a mp3 flash player, but there might be a flash mp3 player that runs on the flash player =)
[01:51] <bruenig> blahdeblah, so it must be able to communicate with clamav itself are you sure there is no internal way?
[01:51] <Pelo> tim167desktop, I suggest you check their site for instructions or for a special applet to format it , before you tried doing it in ubuntu
[01:51] <FFighter> Pelo, ok ok.. I`m just complicating stuff
[01:51] <FFighter> lol
[01:51] <bruenig> blahdeblah, by which I mean inside the program itself
[01:51] <blahdeblah> bruenig: I don't understand your question
[01:52] <Pelo> FFighter, yes you are , stop doing that I'm confused enough as it is
[01:52] <blahdeblah> mneptok: Looks like i was mistaken - i had backports enabled previously, but they're disabled at the moment.  I'll try again with them enabled.
[01:52] <bruenig> blahdeblah, as in are you sure there is no way for the program to update itself
[01:52] <bmk789> how do i move data from one PV to another in an LVM?
[01:52] <blahdeblah> bruenig: The clamav update process only updates the signatures, not the code itself
[01:52] <bruenig> blahdeblah, obviously it communicates with the clamav over the internet else it wouldn't know of the new version, so it would follow that they would have some way within the program to update
[01:53] <blahdeblah> bruenig: Have you ever actually *used* clamav?
[01:53] <Pelo> !lvm | bmk789  this is all we have atm on the subject
[01:53] <ubotu> bmk789  this is all we have atm on the subject: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[01:53] <hal14450_> what kind of bot is ubotu ?
[01:54] <Pelo> hal14450_,  one of thos without the 3 laws,  so be carefull it can turn on you in a flash
[01:54] <ckin2001> lol
[01:54] <mrbrdo> i've re-setup grub and now my windows partition isn't readable anymore (i can't mount it in ubuntu) but also grub throws an error when i try to boot in windows and i can't read it because the menu displays again too fast.. i think maybe grub overwrote a few sectors on the windows partition because it was installed on that partition.. i've changed the boot flags now and reinstalled grub to the /boot partition but it doesn't help anymore
[01:54] <kitche> bruenig: not really you sorta have to update clamav yourself which is kinda dumb really :)
[01:54] <hal14450_> Pelo, seriously though since we could use something simliar in #ubuntu-newyork
[01:55] <mrbrdo> or maybe i need to fix the mbr or something?
[01:55] <Pelo> hal14450_,  I think pricechild is the one to ask
[01:55] <tim167desktop> Pelo, there is no site about this mp3 player, and google only returns related results in spanish or in chinese ( or japanese ? )
[01:55] <smo> hi
[01:55] <hal14450_> Pelo, thank you
[01:55] <Pelo> mrbrdo,  is windows onthe same hdd as ubuntu ?
[01:55] <smo> how can i force apt-get to use a particular repository when a package is in 2 repository??
[01:55] <scalawag> Bolded IPV6 in the config, still loading slow
[01:55] <mrbrdo> Pelo:  yes but other partition of course
[01:55] <blahdeblah> mneptok: Thanks - backports has a newer version.
[01:56] <Pelo> smo, apt-get will use the most recent package version
[01:56] <hal14450_> !seen pricechild
[01:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen pricechild - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:56] <mrbrdo> Pelo: but i did install grub on that partition (/dev/hda3 the ntfs partition)
[01:56] <smo> anyway to do it?
[01:56] <Pelo> mrbrdo, is the windows partition still flagged to boot ?
[01:56] <hal14450_> :(
[01:56] <mrbrdo> Pelo: not anymore but when it was it was the same
[01:57] <mrbrdo> Pelo: it's not flagged as bootable now, i changed it to /dev/hda1 which is the /boot parition but it's still the same it won't boot to windows or mount that partition
[01:57] <Pelo> mrbrdo,  you installed grub on hda3 ?   I thin you might have screwed things up,  try asking in #grub , this is over my head  ( and the windows partition needs to be flagged as boot)
[01:57] <Pelo> mrbrdo,  the boot flag just means you can boot an os from that parttion, id is not the mbr not the same thing
[01:58] <mrbrdo> oh
[01:58] <mrbrdo> Pelo:  but before only hda3 was flagged as bootable
[01:58] <mrbrdo> no linux partition..
[01:59] <mrbrdo> Pelo: ah nvm it is still flagged as bootable i forgot to write changed
[01:59] <mrbrdo> changes*
[01:59] <Pelo> mrbrdo, generaly you put windows on the first partiton of the boot hdd,  and then you can put ubuntu/linux anywhere else  , windows like to be the first ,  it is less problematic , and grub is usualy instaled as part of the ubuntu/linux partition
[02:00] <Pelo> mrbrdo,  take a screnshot of gparted so I can see what your hdd looks llke and also pastebin your grub/menu.lst file
[02:00] <MekApelsin> X restarts on backspace (just backspace not ctrl-alt-backspace). What to do?
[02:00] <mrbrdo> Pelo: yeah it worked fine until now tho, i just reinstalled grub
[02:00] <mrbrdo> gparted?
[02:00] <Pelo> mrbrdo, why did you reinstall grub ?
[02:00] <mrbrdo> i installed the gfxboot version
[02:00] <Pelo> mrbrdo, what ever the partition manger you use  with an image so I can see what the partitions look like on yourhdd
[02:00] <mrbrdo> the .lst file is the same as before it just has an extra line to specify which message to use
[02:01] <mrbrdo> fdisk not good?
[02:01] <Pelo> mrbrdo, can you get me a good clear listing of yoru partitons with the devtree and the FS on them ?
[02:02] <mrbrdo> http://pastebin.ca/724953
[02:02] <mrbrdo> tell me if that's not good enough
[02:02] <Pelo> mrbrdo, basicaly I need to see the menu.lst file and I need to know hat your hdd looks like
[02:02] <mrbrdo> okay i'll post the menu.lst file too then
[02:02] <Pelo> mrbrdo, that will do , now the menu.lst file
[02:02] <mrbrdo> http://pastebin.ca/724955
[02:03] <Pelo> mrbrdo, ok , give me a few minutes
[02:03] <mrbrdo> i seriously think grub overwrote something on the windows partition though because i can't mount it anymore
[02:03] <mrbrdo> ok
[02:04] <Pelo> mrbrdo, I can't see anything wrong with it ,  did you say that you couldn'T mount your windows partition in ubuntu anymore either ?
[02:04] <warrior> pici:	he still excuses for the rudeness which I have had before!
[02:05] <gnomefreak> got him
[02:05] <allan__> hi
[02:05] <gnomefreak> waits for lag
[02:05] <enhancer_> yawn
[02:05] <allan__> wtf
[02:05] <enhancer_> lagggarrrrific
[02:05] <gnomefreak> there
[02:05] <mrbrdo> Pelo: yes i can't mount it anymore
[02:05] <enhancer_> hrm, curious
[02:05] <mrbrdo> Pelo: and this started after i did grub-install on /dev/hda3
[02:06] <Innomen> why was xero removed? from my end it looked like he just joined and thats all :P
[02:06] <mrbrdo> so i think something was overwritten on the partition and not sure how to fix that
[02:06] <enhancer_> so, XChat does not support socks natively?
[02:07] <Pelo> mrbrdo, I think it is possible that you messed the hda3 partition ,  why did you try to instal grub there ?
[02:07] <Pelo> enhancer_, ask in #xchat
[02:08] <Pelo> Innomen,  THEY were waiting for him , what does that tell you ?
[02:08] <mrbrdo> Pelo: because i thought it was the right partition because of the boot flag :S
[02:09] <Pelo> mrbrdo, it is quite possible you messed it up,  and I don't know how you would fix it , sorry, it's over my head,
[02:09] <Pelo> mrbrdo,  try asking in #grub  they might know , but I doubt it
[02:09] <mrbrdo> it's all quiet in there
[02:10] <Pelo> mrbrdo, not all channels are as busy as this one ,just restate your question periodicaly and be very patient
[02:11] <xeer> hi everyone! seems my alsa mixer is not working properly. when i try to do a test sound in the sound preferences dialog i get "no element "gconfaudiosink""
[02:11] <mrbrdo> Pelo: thanks
[02:11] <kitche> Pelo: it's in options most likely :)
[02:11] <ph4mp573r> _very_
[02:11] <xeer> my sound works, though only one source and use the device at a time. is there a way to reinstall/reconfigure the mixer?
[02:12] <Pelo> !sound | xeer
[02:12] <enhancer_> Pelo: I would, if it existed
[02:12] <enhancer_> ./lame
[02:12] <ubotu> xeer: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:12] <enhancer_> torrify is my friend I suppose
[02:12] <Pelo> enhancer_,  there are 99 ppl in there right now, check your spelling
[02:13] <Sable> Everytime I log into ubuntu, I have to open a terminal and type modprobe ndiswrapper in order to start my wirless card.  Is there any way to have ubuntu do that automatically?
[02:13] <enhancer_> hrm
[02:13] <xeer> my volume control applet says "The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_MixerApplet"."
[02:13] <enhancer_> maybe I dont' like xchat soo much
[02:13] <enhancer_> I can't see who is where
[02:13] <Innomen> can you make ubuntu recall the state of your desktop (folder postions and opens etc) when it reboots?
[02:13] <kitche> Sable: sudo ndiswrapper -m will write the module to where it's suppose to go
[02:13] <Sable> thanks
[02:13] <alexbobp> gsp0tz is sending spam to me whenever I join or part.  Anybody else noticing this behavior?
[02:14] <enhancer_> ./chmod +lame +rtfm ME
[02:14] <Pelo> enhancer_,  you maybe useing xchat-gnome , it is crap,  goto  menu > applications > add/remove , search for xchat and install xchat ,  uninstall xchat-gnome
[02:14] <Innomen> riotkittie! pelo fixed me :)
[02:14] <enhancer_> probably
[02:14] <kitche> I don't notice gsp0tz doing it
[02:15] <alexbobp> "(07:14:48 PM) gsp0tz: (notice) Make free cartoons & silly ecards on http://www.ComicStripGenerator.com ;)"
[02:15] <astomper> I just got Comcast cable internet.  It works, but when I plug my router in it stops working, any help anyone?\
[02:15] <enhancer_> Pelo: danke
[02:15] <Pelo> Innomen, depends on what you mmean   you can make it remember a default boot destkop with stuff open  just put everything the way you want and   goto  menu > system < prefs > session >   3rd tab   save session
[02:15] <Pelo> Innomen,  you make it sound like I castrated you
[02:15] <kitche> astomper: umm is your router setup to use the wan to connect to it that is
[02:15] <Innomen> lol
[02:16] <astomper> kitche, I'll go check right now
[02:16] <Innomen> what i mean is like how firefox recalls where i left off when i closed it
[02:16] <Innomen> can ubuntu do that as well?
[02:16] <Innomen> i notice it has multiple desktops
[02:16] <Innomen> can it "save" them on exit?
[02:17] <_Ulver_> join #ubuntu-br
[02:17] <preaction_> Innomen, open Preferences > Sessions, it can "Save session on logout"
[02:17] <Pelo> Innomen,  just go to where I said and check the save session automaticaly box,  it will restrt the comp as you exited it
[02:17] <Innomen> sweet
[02:17] <Innomen> thask o
[02:17] <Innomen> tak o
[02:17] <Innomen> gah
[02:17] <Pelo> Innomen,  you might also want to look into  devilspie but you'Re on your own with that one
[02:18] <Innomen> laptop kb dieing
[02:18] <Innomen> thank you
[02:18] <Pelo> !enter | Innomen
[02:18] <ubotu> Innomen: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:18] <Innomen> i was tyring to say think you
[02:18] <Innomen> and yur all about starting fights
[02:18] <Innomen> :P
[02:18] <Innomen> *shuts up*
[02:18] <Pelo> Innomen, take a joke for linus' sake
[02:18] <Aplexw> i'v forgot my password for mysql how can i recover my password ?
[02:19] <Innomen> *wants to grumble but remembers that he shut up* :P
[02:19] <kitche> Aplexw: reset mysql root password if that's what your missing
[02:20] <Aplexw> kitche : how can i do that ?
[02:20] <DropKickMurpheys> How would i stream an internet radio station in audacity?
[02:20] <kitche> Aplexw: mysql.com has a good howto
[02:20] <Innomen> Pelo: i know but i got inot the ** habit because people on icq/yahoo/aim/msn saw "/me throws snowball" and i got strange looks
[02:20] <DropKickMurpheys> audacious *
[02:20] <Pelo> ic
[02:21] <Innomen> /notice will do
[02:21] <mrbrdo> hey Pelo
[02:21] <mrbrdo> still there?
[02:21] <mrbrdo> i fixed it..
[02:21] <Pelo> off course,  how ?
[02:21] <zcat[1] > sudoers : brucekingbury ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/local/bin/tremswitch   -- should mean Ican run /usr/local/bin/tremswitch  as root, without a password, right?
[02:21] <Pelo> DropKickMurpheys, look into pluggins on the audacious site
[02:21] <Aplexw> kitche : can you give me the command to reset the password ?
[02:21] <DropKickMurpheys> To stream music?
[02:21] <kitche> Aplexw: it's lengthy
[02:21] <DropKickMurpheys> i need a plugin to stream?
[02:21] <mrbrdo> it was Windows XP, but i forgot and used the windows vista installation cd and i used the option startup repair or something like that, it tries to repair automatically.. and it did
[02:22] <mrbrdo> didn't even mess up grub :)
[02:22] <cuahuatzin> Has anyone tried to install ubuntu server 6.06 LTS?
[02:22] <Pelo> DropKickMurpheys, yes that 's what I mean ,  probably I don'T know I don't use audacious but if you can'T find a place to open a url  then I guess you need apluggin
[02:22] <CaneToad> Does anybody know how to change the openoffice default paper size to A4 from Letter?  I'm having trouble finding where.  My system default is A4 and yet OO persists in having Letter as default.
[02:22] <DropKickMurpheys> i found a place
[02:22] <DropKickMurpheys> it just wont load the url
[02:22] <Pelo> mrbrdo, congrats
[02:22] <zcat[1] > !sudo
[02:23] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:23] <mrbrdo> Pelo so if someone has a problem like that the vista cd seems to actually help sometimes :)
[02:23] <ckin2001> cuahuatzin, ya
[02:23] <mrbrdo> well, cya, thanks for your help mate
[02:23] <whonicca> i tried to access my ext3 drive that my ubuntu installation is on via the live cd and get the following error when doing a dmesg | tail, can someone help me find a solution please
[02:23] <Pelo> DropKickMurpheys, check the audacious site they have an irc channel you can ask there
[02:23] <whonicca> http://pastebin.com/m739e9808
[02:23] <cuahuatzin> were you able to install succesfully? I downloaded the ISO, but my machine wont boot from it
[02:23] <whonicca> forgot to add the pastebin heh
[02:23] <ckin2001> yes
[02:24] <cuahuatzin> what steps did you take to install?
[02:24] <Pelo> cuahuatzin, did you  copy the iso to a cd or did you "burn image" ?
[02:24] <whonicca> i think this is the reason my system has been acting crazy lately, now grub doesnt want to load and gives me an error 2
[02:24] <ckin2001> cd in, boot, install
[02:24] <zcat[1] > ARGHHH!!!!
[02:24] <Sable> How do I stop x-server
[02:24] <zcat[1] > I cannot understand the sudoers manpage!!! help!
[02:25] <cuahuatzin> i think i just copied the iso, instead of burning the image
[02:25] <alexbobp> I'm connected to the internet wirelessly, which is eth1.  When I run nmap as myself, it works normally, but if I type "sudo nmap" (for -O), I get "Failed to find device eth0 which was referenced in /proc/net/route" twice.  What is this?
[02:25] <Pelo> whonicca, this is what error 2 : Bad file or directory type
[02:25] <Pelo>     This error is returned if a file requested is not a regular file, but something like a symbolic link, directory, or FIFO.
[02:25] <zcat[1] > fuck it I'll just run the shole script as root
[02:25] <LjL> !language
[02:25] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:26] <Pelo> cuahuatzin,  that was your mistake,  an iso is a cd image you need to burn the image ,  it's a special format to make sure the copy is exactly the same as the original
[02:27] <whonicca> Pelo: before this everything was booting up just fine and i havent edited any config files
[02:27] <Sable> What are the commands to stop and start the xserver
[02:27] <Pelo> whonicca, what did you do before it started going badly ?
[02:27] <whonicca> hard reboot
[02:27] <Pelo> Sable,  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[02:27] <Pici> Sable: `sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop`
[02:28] <whonicca> pressed the power button while restarting the machine since it had locked up
[02:28] <Pelo> whonicca, hmmm
[02:28] <whonicca> and was the only way to turn it off at the time
[02:28] <whonicca> http://pastebin.com/m739e9808
[02:28] <just22> hi, just a quick info... i'm lookin for the best kernel version to use in my amd64 distro. What do u think about?
[02:28] <zcat[1] _> I have a script taking input from a chatroom, there's ONE command I want it to be able to launch, which requires root. How can I configure sudo to let me run just that one command as root, without asking for a password?
[02:28] <zcat[1] _> because I really don't want a script that takes input from a chatroom running as root
[02:28] <Pelo> just22, try asking in ##linux
[02:28] <cuahuatzin> is windows able to "burn an image"?
[02:28] <whonicca> i really dont want to format my computer to fix this problem
[02:29] <just22> Pelo, thnx
[02:29] <alexbobp> cuahuatzin: Windows can burn an image if you get software for it
[02:29] <Pelo> whonicca,  this is over my head , sorry,  maybe the ppl in ##linux can help you fix your ext3 partition
[02:29] <alexbobp> ImgBurn is very good
[02:29] <alexbobp> also CDBXP is good
[02:29] <zcat[1] _> cd #linux
[02:29] <zcat[1] _> oops
[02:29] <alexbobp> heh
[02:29] <cuahuatzin> what specific software would I have to get?
[02:29] <whonicca> hopefully they dont eat me up for being a noob
[02:29] <Pelo> cuahuatzin, didn't your cd burner come with a cd ?  there is usualy a prog to do it on it
[02:29] <alexbobp> cuahuatzin: ImgBurn
[02:30] <shiznit> imgburn ftw
[02:30] <Pelo> whonicca, the ppl in ##linux are actualy very nice
[02:30] <cuahuatzin> cool, thanks alot ppl! this has been a tremendous help
[02:31] <alexbobp> Pelo: they usually come with lousy software.  Bundled software in general tends to be lousy.
[02:31] <alexbobp> although hard-drive tools are often an exception
[02:31] <diafic> sleep now
[02:32] <diafic> night!
[02:32] <Pelo> alexbobp, it's just a quick way to get a working app to do the job ,  mine came with nero, which isn'T bad when ou think about it
[02:33] <alexbobp> Pelo: true, nero is good.
[02:33] <simplechat> hey everyone
[02:33] <alexbobp> although I prefer to use at least freeware
[02:33] <simplechat> i'm back again
[02:33] <alexbobp> and imgburn is just as good
[02:33] <alexbobp> Hi simplechat
[02:33] <simplechat> :(
[02:33] <simplechat> :(
[02:33] <simplechat> still wait the same problem
[02:33] <alexbobp> how was the fight with giant robots?
[02:33] <j0nkatz> yo
[02:33] <Pelo> simplechat, which problem is it again ?
[02:33] <simplechat> went well. who would know they were afraid of chickens?
[02:34] <simplechat> Windows and ubuntu killing each other
[02:34] <Pelo> simplechat,   a little less metaphore would be helpfull
[02:34] <simplechat> how would i get ubuntu to install, but leave grub on its root partition?
[02:34] <CaneToad> can any of the gui-based free burning softwares burn files >2Gb (ie ISO9660 level 3 or UDF) ?
[02:34] <simplechat> Pelo: windows when installed, bluescreens if and only if ubuntu is installed.
[02:34] <xeer> does anyone have experience with bluetooth and audio devices? i've paired my motorola headset and it get recognized fine within alsa.. when i use a program like vlc or xmms to play through that sound device i hear no sound
[02:34] <Pelo> simplechat,  how many hdd do you have ? and do you plan on installing ubun and windows on the same hdd ?
[02:35] <simplechat> Pelo: i have two, but one is for data
[02:35] <alexbobp> CaneToad: ImgBurn can do all of that stuff.
[02:35] <simplechat> and i do plan on running them both from the same hdd
[02:35] <alexbobp> Very well.
[02:36] <simplechat> Pelo:?
[02:36] <CaneToad> Does anybody know how to change the openoffice default paper size to A4 from Letter?  I'm having trouble finding where.  My system default is A4 and yet OO persists in having Letter as default.
[02:37] <Pelo> simplechat, let me explain my setup , that might help a bit ,  I have two hdd , one hdd is as 10 gig for windows and 70 gig for data ,  the other one is ubuntu  10 gig for /  2 gig for swap , 78 gig for  /home ,     I parttionned the windows one and insalled windows on it ,  then I switched the boot hdd in the bios for the ubuntu hdd and installed ubuntu on it
[02:37] <whonicca> in fdisk how would i change a partition from extended to linux partition
[02:37] <markelhas> !install
[02:37] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[02:37] <Pelo> CaneToad,  OOo menu > tools > options , somwehere in there
[02:37] <hinogii> hmm CaneToad thats format >> page i guess
[02:37] <Pelo> whonicca,  no
[02:37] <simplechat> Palo: pata or sata drives?
[02:38] <jaek_> guys, what package am i missing... i have no menu icons
[02:38] <markelhas> Pelo can u help me with a ubuntu install on a pen drive?
[02:38] <Pelo> simplechat,  it's pelo and one of each
[02:38] <whonicca> ?
[02:38] <Pelo> markelhas, not realy, but state the issue and I'll see what I can do
[02:38] <simplechat> Pelo: so i should install one on each drive?
[02:39] <Pelo> simplechat,  that's what I did ,  but make sure you switch the boot hdd in the bios before you iinstall ubuntu ,  so grub is on the ubuntu hdd
[02:39] <e\ectro_> why doesnt cron.{hourly,daily} work out of the box?
[02:39] <simplechat> Pelo: you can't get them to coexist on one drive?
[02:39] <Pelo> e\ectro_, it does , you just need the correct syntaxt for the the commands
[02:39] <e\ectro_> Pelo, you cant just drop an executable script into the dir?
[02:40] <CaneToad> hinogii, you can certainly change the page size in a document but I need to change the default
[02:40] <CaneToad> Pelo, I've already look under menu/tools/options and I find nothing about default page size there.  I've looked through multiple times.  Perhaps I'm blind but I can't see anything.
[02:40] <Pelo> simplechat, you can but it suited me better this way,  I can  remove either hdd and the other os will still work
[02:40] <rickey> is there speical room,s subporting wine , anyone know
[02:40] <Pelo> e\ectro_, that's not how it works
[02:40] <simplechat> Pelo: i prefer having my data on one disk, so i can take it and it will work fine
[02:40] <usser> rickey: that'd be #wine
[02:40] <markelhas> i've follow the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent to install ubuntu on a usb pen, but when i try to boot from it nothing appens. should i do something else?
[02:40] <Pelo> CaneToad,  try askin in #openoffice.org
[02:40] <CaneToad> ok thanks
[02:40] <whonicca> http://www.zshare.net/image/4002426d97fae4/  =(
[02:41] <usser> rickey: my bad #winehq
[02:41] <rickey> you dont know what wine is?
[02:41] <SlimeyPete> lots of people don't.
[02:41] <usser> rickey: what?
[02:41] <rickey> thats
[02:41] <markelhas> i've follow the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent to install ubuntu on a usb pen, but when i try to boot from it nothing appens. should i do something else?
[02:42] <Pelo> simplechat,  try ttry this,  preparttiion your  OS hdd ,  make one part for windows and one part for linux, ( half and half if youwnat) ,  then install windows on the first one , make sure it works,  then remove the partiton you mde for ubuntu and install ubuntu on the unallocated space
[02:42] <rickey> thanks
[02:42] <rickey>  i ment thanks
[02:42] <simplechat> Pelo: did that, windows didn't recognise the partition.
[02:42] <simplechat> remove the partition?
[02:42] <e\ectro_> Pelo, how does cron.{hourly,daily} work?
[02:42] <jiam> markelhas: does your bios support booting off the usb? how did you verify that?
[02:42] <Pelo> markelhas,how are you trying to boot from the usb drive ? what steps did you take with your cmputer
[02:43] <D4N`> you tell me ;)
[02:43] <shiznit> use the windows installed to install windows
[02:43] <awake> QUESTION: How can i install the linux sources (not headers) for my kernel?
[02:43] <shiznit> leave some free unpartitioned space
[02:43] <shiznit> then install linux
[02:43] <Pelo> simplechat,  use the live cd,  make a parttion on the second half of the hdd, leave the first half free,  instal windows on the unalocated space,    then  boot the live cd remove the second partition so you have unalllocated space and insall ubuntu on that
[02:44] <markelhas> i've change the boot settings in my bios to boot from usb first them cdrom and last disk
[02:44] <shiznit> you dont have to do taht
[02:44] <markelhas> Pelo, i've change the boot settings in my bios to boot from usb first them cdrom and last disk
[02:44] <Pelo> e\ectro_,   open terminal   type  crontab -e
[02:44] <markelhas> jiam, i've change the boot settings in my bios to boot from usb first them cdrom and last disk
[02:44] <usser> awake: theres a linux-source metapackage which installs source for your running kernel
[02:44] <simplechat> Pelo: windows won't see its own partition, i have to repartition it
[02:44] <leku> how do I enable more than 2 desktops in compiz fusion?
[02:44] <shiznit> leku
[02:44] <leku> I want to have the old cube from emerald/beryl
[02:45] <leku> whats up
[02:45] <Pelo> markelhas, put thyem back the way they were when you installed ubuntu on the usb drive and just boot the comp
[02:45] <jiam> markelhas: you may have to reboot a couple of times, for usb to be detected, its a bit slow sometimes
[02:45] <shiznit> go to general settings in compiz config manager
[02:45] <leku> rgr
[02:45] <brokensambot> I can't wait for fast user switching
[02:45] <brokensambot> Logging out is a pain
[02:45] <dimas_> i am trying to switch usb hardware from ubuntu to windows on virtualbox said unable to connect to usb device...what shuld i do?
[02:45] <ir1> help , I can't find my wireless netcard after upgrade to gutsy~
[02:45] <Pelo> simplechat,   you want to have  unallocated space for windows to install on
[02:45] <merriam> CaneToad: I think you have to change your default template.
[02:45] <dimas_> pelo hello
[02:45] <Sven_vB> hi :)
[02:45] <awake> usser: I have already done apt-get install linux-sources but same programas when i try to compile them didn't find it. Do i have to create some specific link?
[02:45] <leku> got it shiznit
[02:45] <leku> i know what i was doing wrong
[02:45] <markelhas> jiam, i've done it couple of times...
[02:46] <jiam> ir1 does dmesg says its not detected?
[02:46] <Pelo> dimas_,  ask in a virtualbox channel,   and hi
[02:46] <leku> i was adding desktops and not extending horiz. virt size
[02:46] <simplechat> Pelo: more information?
[02:46] <ir1>  help , I can't find my wireless netcard after upgrade to gutsy~
[02:46] <markelhas> Pelo, but i want to use the usb
[02:46] <simplechat> windows has made its own partition and installed now
[02:46] <usser> awake: nope that should be enough is there any specific error message u get pastebin it pls
[02:46] <dimas_> pelo didnt know it was a virtualbox cannel
[02:46] <Spark> cups is printing everything with letter paper, even though i configured it to use a4, and even though the postscript files i'm sending it have a4 as their media
[02:46] <jiam> markelhas what os do you have on the hd?
[02:47] <Spark> this is causing the printer to reject the jobs
[02:47] <markelhas> Pelo, i trying to create a usb with ubuntu why should i reset the setting back to previous state?
[02:47] <markelhas> jiam, ubuntu
[02:47] <Pelo> markelhas,  when you install ubuntu  it makes a boot menu ,  the fist part of the boot menu is probably on your regular boot hdd ,   when you boot from that you get the menu and you can boot the usb drive
[02:47] <ech0dish> refurbished ubuntu desktops for sell, http://stores.ebay.com/Houston-CompCycle
[02:47] <shiznit> does anyone know how to make the cube hollow on the top and bottom like in the screenshots
[02:47] <shiznit> so you can see the back of the desktops
[02:47] <jiam> markelhas: so both the hd and usb have ubuntu?
[02:47] <ir1> help , I can't find my wireless netcard after upgrade to gutsy~
[02:47] <Pelo> markelhas,  you should have   make the usb drive the boot drive in the bios before you installed ubuntu on it
[02:47] <ir1> help , I can't find my wireless netcard after upgrade to gutsy~
[02:48] <ir1> can someone help me ?
[02:48] <usser> ech0dish: wow tnx, might buy one for file server
[02:48] <awake> usser: Yes http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39496/
[02:48] <Pelo> ir1, ask in #ubuntu+1
[02:48] <markelhas> Pelo, if a click on my esc i can choose where should it boot
[02:48] <Pelo> markelhas, not the same thing
[02:48] <simplechat> pelo:?
[02:48] <silent> hey, anyone know of a good network manager (other than network-manager) ?
[02:48] <markelhas> jiam, yap, i'm making a usb with ubuntu for a friend
[02:48] <usr13> awake: sudo  apt-get install linux-source
[02:48] <Pelo> simplechat, meet me in #pelo please
[02:48] <jiam> markelhas: follow Pelo's advise about the bios
[02:49] <awake> usser: linux-source ya est en su versin ms reciente.
[02:49] <awake> 0 actualizados, 0 se instalarn, 0 para eliminar y 0 no actualizados.
[02:49] <markelhas> Pelo, i've also let the boot seq normal and never boot to usb :(
[02:49] <ghetto> does anyone know how to install xp from an iso on an ntfs partition?
[02:49] <awake> usser: It means: already installed .
[02:49] <ech0dish> add me to your fav sellers, i will soon have refurbished 2U servers with Ubuntu Server installed.
[02:49] <Pelo> markelhas, I don'% know then, I've never done that bit before I can'T help any further
[02:49] <usser> awake: kernel 2.6.99 doesnt seem right,
[02:50] <awake> usser: It says AT LEAST
[02:50] <markelhas> Pelo, ok
[02:50] <markelhas> jiam, thnks
[02:50] <jiam> np
[02:50] <awake> usser: I suppose something from v4l develps
[02:50] <ghetto> can I install xp to a partition from linux?
[02:50] <ech0dish> xp needs to be installed first
[02:51] <ech0dish> then ubuntu
[02:51] <ech0dish> xp likes to think it is the only os
[02:51] <ePax> hehe
[02:51] <usser> awake: hm the latest version of linux kernel is like 2.6.26 or something
[02:51] <ech0dish> if you go to youtube, you can find video tutorials of how to install duel boot xp/ubuntu
[02:51] <ghetto> Is there anyway to install xp from an iso on an ntfs drive? All I have to hand is a 128mb pen drive
[02:52] <awake> usser: I know i have 2.6.22-12-generic
[02:52] <shiznit> not really
[02:52] <usser> awake: hang on im gonna download kernel source see if i have that header file yuors complain about
[02:52] <ech0dish> you can install it using vmware
[02:52] <shiznit> you need to boot from cd
[02:52] <ech0dish> from iso
[02:52] <ech0dish> but other then that you need to boot from disk
[02:52] <awake> usser: Ok thanks!
[02:52] <ghetto> will vmware install xp to my hd?
[02:53] <shiznit> how much of a performance hit is vmware?
[02:53] <ech0dish> vmware emulates the bios and all
[02:53] <ech0dish> you can install without even turning off your computer, and the hit is not too hard.
[02:53] <ech0dish> i've ran it on as low as 800mhz p3
[02:53] <shiznit> whats "not too hard?
[02:53] <shiznit> i dont wanna loose like 20fps in games
[02:53] <ech0dish> whats your comps stats?
[02:54] <ech0dish> you talkin bout running vmware to play games on windows?
[02:54] <bulmer> however the video resolution is not too high on vmware unless there is a patch for it
[02:54] <ghetto> 3hz celeron
[02:54] <ghetto> 2gig ram
[02:54] <ech0dish> you should be fine to do whatever with 3ghz and 2gb
[02:54] <ech0dish> except a few games might slow down
[02:54] <ghetto> ?
[02:54] <ech0dish> try cedega
[02:54] <shiznit> yes i was thinking bout it so i wouldnt have to reboot all the time
[02:54] <ech0dish> cedega is best
[02:55] <ghetto> CAn I not install it permanently to a hd?
[02:55] <shiznit> but i dont wanna do it if im gonna lose performance
[02:55] <ech0dish> you can not, unless you want to reinstall ubuntu after
[02:55] <ghetto> don't have ubuintu installed yet
[02:55] <ghetto> no os
[02:55] <jklock> shiznit: no matter what its not going to be as good as a regular install of windows.
[02:55] <dwxreaper> why are files going when i reboot my server (daemons, programs..) then i reboot again and they are back
[02:55] <ech0dish> if it has no os, then its fine to install xp...
[02:56] <dwxreaper> what would the possible problems be!
[02:56] <ghetto> Is there a distro that I can install to a usb pen drive through windows?
[02:56] <ech0dish> dsl
[02:56] <ech0dish> damn small linux
[02:56] <decay_> How can i scan my system for open ports?
[02:56] <shiznit> jklock, ty im not doing it then
[02:56] <ech0dish> or knoppix
[02:56] <ghetto> have no means to burn cd/dvd since I only have dvd-r and my drives a +r
[02:56] <shiznit> i like my fps
[02:56] <ghetto> stick is only 128mb
[02:56] <ghetto> I have dsl
[02:57] <usr13> decay_: you can't really, you will need another computer to scan from outside.
[02:57] <ghetto> how do I install it to the stick?
[02:57] <shiznit> decay_ do to shieldsup
[02:57] <ech0dish> should just have to put the files on it
[02:57] <ghetto> ?
[02:57] <usr13> decay_;  you will have to get someone to do it for you.
[02:57] <Skwid_> hey everyone, i have issues with a bug in ubuntu where my laptop keeps shutting down due to critical temperature being reached, anything i can do ? i hate being on windows :S
[02:57] <decay_> usr13, shiznit more details pleaseee
[02:57] <ghetto> and it will boot?
[02:57] <decay_> usr13, ok, how?
[02:57] <shiznit> google shields up
[02:57] <ghetto> even though it's fat fs?
[02:57] <decay_> shiznit, ok thanks
[02:57] <jaek_> anyone know what package got removed... i dont have any menu icons
[02:58] <usser> awake: wow alright the thing u try to compile looking for headers in the wrong place
[02:58] <usr13> decay_: have someone run nmap on your ip
[02:58] <shiznit> shieldup does that
[02:58] <usr13> You can look at services you have running with netstat
[02:58] <Skwid_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/44805
[02:58] <Skwid_> this is the bug
[02:58] <awake> usser: mmm how can i fixit it? export or something like that?
[02:58] <usser> awake: make a symbolic link from /lib/modules/2.6.22-12-generic/source/include/linux to /usr/include/linux
[02:58] <usr13> decay_: You can look at services you have running with netstat
[02:58] <ghetto> I have the puppy iso files on the drive now, copied them over from power iso
[02:59] <ghetto> will that boot?
[02:59] <decay_> The reason i ask is because i made a simple server, but people can't connect to it. but i can from localhost
[02:59] <usser> awake: do cd /lib/modules/2.6.22-12-generic
[02:59] <usser> awake: sudo mkdir source
[02:59] <Skwid_> or this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/22336
[03:00] <Skwid_> i cant find a work around :S
[03:00] <CaneToad> merriam, you were right about the OO template... I found this web page http://axljab.homelinux.org/OpenOffice.org_-_Default_Template which helped a lot...thanks for the clue otherwise I would have had a lot of trouble finding it
[03:00] <usr13> decay_: is there a firewall between you and outside that may be blocking the ports in question?
[03:00] <usser> awake: sudo ln -s /usr/include
[03:00] <sleepcat> how can i make my mouse cursor pink?
[03:00] <usser> awake: before that last lince cd source
[03:00] <merriam> CaneToad: no problem
[03:00] <TheSkorm> sleepcat: turn it gay.
[03:00] <ldz420> I am using ubuntu 7.4 amd64 version I want to install the java plug-in in.  do I have to install firefox 32 version?
[03:00] <decay_> usr13, not sure. unless ubuntu has one that i dont know of. running ubuntu on default settings
[03:01] <IndyGunFreak> ldz420: yes
[03:01] <IndyGunFreak> !flash64 | ldz420
[03:01] <ubotu> ldz420: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[03:01] <usser> awake: that should point it to the right place
[03:01] <awake> usser: Ok thanks a lot, im going to try recompile
[03:02] <usr13> decay_: is there a stand alone firewall or router between PC in question and target clients?
[03:02] <Skwid_> anyone ?
[03:02] <usr13> decay_: Not talking about software firewall, but talking about hardware firewall.
[03:02] <decay_> usr13, I am using a wireless router if that answers your question
[03:02] <decay_> usr13, then no. just a wireless router
[03:03] <usr13> decay_: The wireless router is also a firewall
[03:03] <decay_> usr13, but then howcome i can connect to here, and send files of GAIM, etc?
[03:03] <usr13> decay_: You will more than likely need to open [forward]  ports in the router
[03:03] <Innomen> anyone here use truecrypt?
[03:03] <decay_> and receive files as well
[03:03] <nazeeh> hi everyone
[03:04] <nazeeh> quick question: If i upgrade to the 7.10 beta now, will it upgrade to the final version when it's out with no issues?
[03:04] <Innomen> i've installed it apprently but i cant find it
[03:04] <jaek_> is there a meta package for installing all the packages that would get installed by a default install?
[03:04] <usr13> decay_: because you are on the LAN ports, (as opposed to the WAN port).
[03:05] <TheSkorm> My system has no wan ports
[03:05] <decay_> usr13, kinda lost. not a network techie, just software somewhat. So, do i have to plug the router to my computer and open up the port im using in the server i created?
[03:05] <usr13> decay_: Your wireless router is in fact a stand alone, hardware router.
[03:05] <TheSkorm> and tynically sspeaking if he's on a wiress router, it doesnt mean he has to port forward there
[03:06] <TheSkorm> I have a modem -> server -> switch -> wireless
[03:06] <usr13> decay_: use the router's configuration menu, (probably at http://192.168.1.1 ).
[03:06] <bulmer> decay_: its because your ip address on your server is not reachable from the internet directly withouth nat'ing
[03:06] <usr13> decay_: What model is your router?
[03:06] <zcat[1] _> http://pastebin.com/m61db43eb
[03:06] <decay_> it's the MSI router
[03:07] <decay_>  MSI RG60G
[03:07] <j0nkatz> so do all the newer Dells run Ubuntu ok?
[03:07] <usr13> decay_: well what ever your gateway address is, you will more than likely find web based configuration for the router.
[03:08] <usr13> decay_: http://192.168.1.1
[03:08] <usr13> decay_: or  http://192.168.0.1
[03:08] <zylstra555> Hello, I am running an Ubuntu server with Apache2. What is the best way to set the hdparm settings? I would like to make it reserve as much power as possible, without too much interference. A little bit of slowdown is fine
[03:08] <usr13> if it's left on defautl address
[03:09] <decay_> usr13,  believe it or not, thats not it. its 192.168.1.254
[03:11] <decay_> usr13, and i can connect to that address and itll give me the router setup
[03:11] <SirPerigrin> Anyone extremely good with Grub wo could help me get it to recognize a newly installed OS? Edited menu.lst to death with no avail
[03:11] <decay_> usr13, as opposed to physically connecting the router to my computer with a wire
[03:11] <j0nkatz> so do all the newer Dells run Ubuntu ok?
[03:14] <CoasterMaster> j0nkatz, my older Dell (Inspiron laptop circa 2005) runs Ubuntu perfectly
[03:16] <j0nkatz> I was gonna order one and wanted to get something with a beefier vid card than what comes in their new "Ubuntu model"
[03:16] <ldz420> !java64
[03:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about java64 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:17] <usser> ldz420: the latest java64 is blackdown 1.4
[03:17] <dwxreaper> why are files going when i reboot my server (daemons, programs..) then i reboot again and they are back
[03:17] <dwxreaper> what would the possible problems be!
[03:18] <dam9> aasp.chrisirc.com
[03:18] <dam9> whoops sorry
[03:22] <kjp> how can I tell if my ubuntu kernel has support for port multipliers ?
[03:23] <kevinG> Hello.
[03:23] <kevinG> Can anyone tell me why I can't download anything from Synaptic?
[03:23] <kevinG> Are the servers down, or something?
[03:23] <Evanlec> im sure this has been asked but, what program would one use to author flash with in ubuntu? (like swf files for the web)
[03:25] <tonyyarusso> can anyone recommend a program for typesetting musical scores?  (gtk preferred)
[03:26] <kjp> tonyyarusso: rosegarden ?
[03:26] <rob> tonyyarusso, I think nted might be what you are after
[03:26] <tonyyarusso> kjp: may work
[03:27] <tonyyarusso> rob: what's the package name for that?
[03:27] <rob> tonyyarusso, it's not in the repos, but I have a package if you want it
[03:27] <rob> tonyyarusso, the details are at http://vsr.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de/~jan/noteedit/noteedit.html
[03:27] <mneptok> tonyyarusso: http://denemo.sourceforge.net/
[03:27] <tonyyarusso> rob: I'll look into it, thanks
[03:27] <kjp> can anyone tell me how I can find out if my kernel has support for esata port multiplier support
[03:28] <mneptok> tonyyarusso: Rosegarden will want all the KDE libs
[03:28] <rob> tonyyarusso, if you want the Ubuntu packages just ask me
[03:28] <Innomen> does truecrypte have a gui when run under ubuntu?
[03:28] <Siph0n> hey when i plug my phone into my laptop using a usb cable, this moto4lin howto says the device should show up as /dev/ttyACM0 , but i dont see that.... i only see 6 new /dev/usbdev1.17_ep* devices ..... any ideas???
[03:28] <tonyyarusso> rob: do you have a source package?
[03:28] <Innomen> truecrypt*
[03:28] <SirPerigrin> yes, but its a seperate program innomen
[03:28] <SirPerigrin> and not very functional
[03:28] <Innomen> how do i even run it? i've installed it
[03:29] <mneptok> tonyyarusso: NoteEdit, too
[03:29] <SirPerigrin> its a CLI
[03:29] <kevinG> So, is anyone else unable to get downloads from Synaptec Package Manager?
[03:29] <Innomen> but its not like in windows, it gives me no choice where to sintall things and the search function apprently dosent know how to look in subfolders
[03:29] <mneptok> tonyyarusso: Denemo + lilypnd = the choice for GTK fans
[03:29] <SirPerigrin> its not like windows, its better!
[03:29] <Innomen> so since it didnt give me shortcuts, i have no idea where the application is
[03:29] <tonyyarusso> mneptok: looks interesting.
[03:29] <Innomen> ok then you tell me how i'm supposed ot iniate truecrypt
[03:30] <SirPerigrin> Its in the /bin folder like everything
[03:30] <SirPerigrin> i said, its a CLI
[03:30] <SirPerigrin> meaning you run it in text mode
[03:30] <SirPerigrin> from a Shell
[03:30] <mneptok> or an Exxon
[03:30] <SirPerigrin> lol@mneptok
[03:30] <tonyyarusso> mneptok: will it export to PDF or something neat like that?
[03:31] <rm_x> I'm getting tired of my laptop fsyncing in the beginning of a sales meeting - any way I can make it do the every-n-mount's fsync's at shutdown instead?
[03:31] <mneptok> tonyyarusso: http://denemo.sourceforge.net/manualout.html#publish
[03:31] <Innomen> thats not a GUI then is it
[03:31] <SirPerigrin> no, its a CLI
[03:31] <SirPerigrin> Command Line Interface
[03:31] <leku> in compuz fusion how do I setup cube transparency aned change the cube cap pictures?
[03:31] <mneptok> rm_x: don't have AC power during boot
[03:31] <Innomen> i asked if there was a gui, you said yes :P
[03:31] <SirPerigrin> the GUI you CAN Dl is so useless its not worth it
[03:31] <Innomen> well its better than not being able to use it at all
[03:31] <tonyyarusso> mneptok: nice
[03:31] <SirPerigrin> uhm... not use it?
[03:32] <mneptok> rm_x: only plug in the laptop after it has booted. no more fscks at meetings.
[03:32] <SirPerigrin> the CLI is more useable than the GUI
[03:32] <rm_x> mneptok: ooh - so it'll avoid doing the fsync if not plugged in.
[03:32] <rm_x> GREAT!
[03:32] <Pelo> !grub > simplechat
[03:32] <Innomen> yea see this assumption that users know linux like i know dos is the downfall of this whole project
[03:32] <SirPerigrin> ok, ill walk you thought it in baby steps then now that you ask
[03:32] <Innomen> it is not unreasonable to demand a gui for all apps on "Linux for humans"
[03:32] <mneptok> Innomen: no one here assumes users are intelligent. we only ask you be willing to learn.
[03:32] <rm_x> Still think it'd be nicer to do it at shutdown, tho - since when I'm shutting down I don't care if it takes 1/2 hour; while when I boot I usually want it up soon.
[03:32] <mneptok> ;)
[03:33] <SirPerigrin> Open up a Terminal, Type in Truecrypt --help
[03:33] <mneptok> rm_x: i do. when it's time to leave the office i want to GO. ;)
[03:33] <Innomen> the "if you want something simple use something else"/"go away i'm a linux guru" thing does not or should not apply to ubuntu :)
[03:33] <Innomen> oky
[03:33] <roadfish> when I try download Ubuntu, it says "no installation candidate". However, the package is at http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/text/dict-wn ... why can't I install this package?
[03:33] <rm_x> Yeah - but when I leave the office I don't mind if it fsyncs in my laptop bag.
[03:33] <SirPerigrin> innomen, EVERYTHING in ubuntu has VERY DETAILED HELP FILES
[03:33] <rm_x> (though maybe I should because of the heat - hmm)
[03:34] <roadfish> sorry ... I mean when I try to download dict-wn ... dict-wn
[03:34] <SirPerigrin> it NEVER assumes you know things, it assumes you can read a help file
[03:34] <mneptok> Innomen: so if i said "I'm trying to get Safari for OESX running on Windows" the answer "If you want something simple use another product" is unacceptable?
[03:34] <Frogzoo> Innomen: but linux does have a steep learning curve, it only upsets people when you're not up front with people about that
[03:34] <rm_x> But the don't plug it in workaround is great.  That meets my need.
[03:34] <rm_x> thanks.
[03:34] <mneptok> rm_x: np. glad yer happy. :)
[03:34] <Innomen> s how was i supposed ot know i'd ned two dashes before help? and how was i to know that "truecrypt" was now a valid command? could it not have been tcrypt, or TC? See, that assumption is what i'm talking about, and why a gui is required. :)
[03:34] <SirPerigrin> by reading
[03:34] <SirPerigrin> theres Help documents everywhere
[03:34] <mneptok> Innomen: YOU made the assumption, not Linux
[03:34] <Innomen> man
[03:35] <Innomen> yur going in circles
[03:35] <Innomen> i'm supposed ot magically know where the readme is?
[03:35] <SirPerigrin> when i started Linux i probobly read 6 hours a day in help files for a week
[03:35] <SirPerigrin> well, you do now
[03:35] <Innomen> lets ask toddlers if they know where the readme is
[03:35] <Frogzoo> !docs | Innomen
[03:35] <ubotu> Innomen: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[03:35] <SirPerigrin> any command + --help
[03:35] <mneptok> Innomen: YOU assumed you'd get a clicky icon. YOU assumed "the shell is an antique." YOU assume the CLI is somehow "inferior"
[03:35] <roadfish> how do I figure out which version of Ubuntu I have installed?
[03:35] <Innomen> thats not good enough, for "the linux for humans"
[03:35] <SirPerigrin> actualy, if you read the Wiki
[03:35] <Innomen> in widnows you install an app and it sayts "hey, wanna RTFM?" that is NOT too much to ask here
[03:36] <Frogzoo> roadfish: lsb_release -a - works for all linux distros
[03:36] <roadfish> ok, so what't the command-line command to find out why version of Ubuntu I have?
[03:36] <SirPerigrin> innomen, 70% of Linux Apps are the same way
[03:36] <mneptok> Innomen: humans learn and adapn. you should, too.
[03:36] <mneptok> *adapt
[03:36] <roadfish> Frogzoo: tnx
[03:36] <SirPerigrin> you just got a single app thats not
[03:36] <Innomen> no, i should not have to search the web for basic help on an app i already have, what i've i dont have net access where i'm installing?
[03:36] <kevinG> god damn, just send the man a link to the GUI
[03:36] <mneptok> Innomen: whatever, this is all offtopic and should be moved to -offtopic
[03:36] <tonyyarusso> mneptok: oooo, it's in the repos even
[03:37] <mneptok> tonyyarusso: aye
[03:38] <mindrape> Innomen - Windows also writes all appliction and system configurations to one massive mess called the Windows Registry... should linux follow this awful practice too?
[03:38] <Innomen> i have suffering the you should already know attidude for countless other distros, THIS one is supposed ot be diffrent, the stated goal of the project is to supplant windows, if its gunna do that for anyone but the i alreayd know linux crowd there are some fact that must be addressed, and the assumption of knowledge in fact must be removed.
[03:38] <SirPerigrin> The GUI is called Forcefield, but you wont like it much
[03:38] <mneptok> guys, pylease move this to -offtopic
[03:38] <Innomen> no, how the os works internally is not at issue
[03:38] <Innomen> i'm talking about communications between the machine and the basic new user
[03:39] <mindrape> Innomen - #ubuntu-offtopic... I'll teach you the ways.  :)
[03:39] <Innomen> this is not offtopic, i have a legitimat tech support issue
[03:39] <mneptok> Innomen: state it
[03:39] <Innomen> how do i find where true crypt is installed?
[03:39] <Skwid_> hey everyone, i have issues with a bug in ubuntu where my laptop keeps shutting down due to critical temperature being reached, anything i can do ? i hate being on windows :S
[03:39] <WooD> hi guys..
[03:39] <WooD> I have a big problem
[03:39] <SirPerigrin> i already told you, /bin
[03:39] <Lanken> when is gutsy beta scheduled to come out?
[03:39] <WooD> never seen before ...
[03:39] <mindrape> Innomen - saying "I don't know what I'm doing and don't know how to find readme files" isn't a support issue...
[03:39] <mneptok> Innomen: sudo updatedb && locate truecrypt
[03:40] <Skwid_> this is the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/22336
[03:40] <Innomen> i've just clicked on the desktop and typed /bin
[03:40] <warrior> hi! as it is settled msniff
[03:40] <Innomen> nothing happened
[03:40] <Innomen> dont assume i know
[03:40] <pike_> acpi | Skwid_ might help ya never know
[03:40] <mneptok> Innomen: there. solved. move to -offtopic.
[03:40] <Ant1jr> Skwid: Reapply your thermal compound on your cpu
[03:40] <christian_> hi
[03:40] <Innomen> no its not
[03:40] <christian_> what i need
[03:40] <christian_> to
[03:40] <Ant1jr> Skwid_:Reapply your thermal compound on your cpu
[03:40] <christian_> unpacking
[03:40] <christian_> archives
[03:40] <Skwid_> Ant1jr: hum, something software ? :)
[03:40] <christian_> .RAR
[03:40] <kevinG> haha you guys are douches
[03:40] <Skwid_> Ant1jr: windows handles it just fine ..
[03:40] <Ant1jr> Skwid_: Um critical temp is not software
[03:40] <SirPerigrin> Innomen, just go DL Forcefield and live with its bugs till you get used to a CLI
[03:40] <mindrape> !family
[03:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about family - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:40] <mindrape> !clean
[03:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clean - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:41] <Ant1jr> Skwid_: Shut off your cpu temp monitor in bios
[03:41] <mindrape> kevinG - language... ;)
[03:41] <pike_> Skwid_: that isnt somethine you should have to do tao a lappy. not saying you couldnt improve it by doing that but..
[03:41] <roadfish> Innomen: do you know the package name? assuming is it crypy then try /var/lib/dpkg/info/crypy
[03:41] <Innomen> Seriously, where is the search files function?
[03:41] <kevinG> oh, so there are people listening
[03:41] <Ant1jr> Mindrape: And you have rape in your name ;)
[03:41] <Frogzoo> mindrape: do you consider mindrape a family friendly nick??
[03:41] <Innomen> i open the place menu and click computer
[03:41] <cyclonut> Innomen: install Beagle
[03:41] <Frogzoo> Ant1jr: ditto
[03:41] <warrior> hi! as it is settled msniff
[03:41] <WooD> I had to shut off real fast the server while it was booting up .. when I put it back on I get an error on starting up back the Mysql server... It ask me to check if the /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock exists ?  I've checked and there is no file at that name .. any of  you know what I can do to solve that problem ?
[03:41] <kevinG> Innomen, you should probably just ask on the forums, people there are generally more helpful, i've found
[03:41] <Skwid_> Ant1jr: hum ...
[03:41] <Lanken> is gutsy beta out?
[03:41] <Innomen> i click search, how do i tell it i want to find every instance of "crypt" on the system?
[03:42] <kitche> Lanken: yes
[03:42] <mindrape> Frogzoo/Ant1jr - I do... rape means to forcefully take away... you are just pervs so you think its sexual.
[03:42] <mneptok> Innomen: sudo updatedb && locate truecrypt
[03:42] <mneptok> Innomen: that is the answer. please stop asking
[03:42] <Innomen> so there is no gui search either?
[03:42] <cyclonut> Innomen: BEAGLE
[03:42] <Lanken> kitche: is there an installer cd, or just dvds?
[03:42] <Frogzoo> mindrape: consult a reference dictionary on standard english usage
[03:42] <mneptok> Innomen: there is. you just can't figure it out.
[03:42] <Get_A_Fix> Innomen: try using the Nautilus file browser, click on Places and Home and go from there
[03:42] <Ant1jr> http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3A+rape
[03:42] <pike_> Innomen: i think youll find most here more comforatable with terminal commands. sorry i dont know gnome gui that well. locate something does work though
[03:42] <mindrape> Frogzoo - http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=define%3A+rape&btnG=Google+Search
[03:43] <kevinG> "douche" means "a person of scummery"...of course, it's not in the Oxford English Dictionary yet, but someday it will be!
[03:43] <Ant1jr> mindrape: http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3A+rape
[03:43] <mneptok> THE OFFTOPIC CHATTER STOPS NOW
[03:43] <mneptok> KTHX
[03:43] <cyclonut> Innomen: I say for the last time, install beagle, tell it to index your drive. You can search trhough that.
[03:43] <kevinG> i tremble in fear
[03:43] <WooD> any of you can help me please ?
[03:43] <winXperts> yay
[03:43] <ech0dish> sup wood
[03:43] <Skwid_> mindrape: nobody on google define seems to agree with you :)
[03:43] <Mixx> I have a good understanding of hacking around linux, (maybe I don't understand exactly what modprobe does, but I know when to use it).  i'm interested in learning more about programming in linux - can anyone suggest a n00bs guide?
[03:44] <pike_> Innomen: second recommendation for beagle. ive heard good things about it
[03:44] <WooD> ech0dish: im so desperate
[03:44] <Mixx> there seems to be a gap between the utterly uninitiated and the advanced programmer
[03:44] <Innomen> yur kidding, so for the record ubuntu does not ship with a gui way to search for a given file? i'm honestly asking because no one will tell me
[03:44] <ech0dish> they have meds for that now.
[03:44] <roadfish> sup roadfish
[03:44] <Innomen> pike_: i'm sure
[03:44] <WooD> ech0dish: my mysql server wont start anymore
[03:44] <Innomen> and i will go get it
[03:44] <leprasmurf> hello all
[03:44] <mneptok> Innomen: it's a basic part of GNOME. try looking in menus.
[03:44] <ech0dish> pastebin the error
[03:44] <Innomen> if someone tells me that i have to by answering what i just asked
[03:44] <warrior> HI as it is settled msniff???
[03:44] <pentest> anyone run the ipw2200 wireless chipset?
[03:45] <leprasmurf> I'm trying to use xdmcp, on a wireless network, anyone know any ways to speed it up?
[03:45] <Innomen> mneptok: yea i did, but i dont see it, thats why i'm asking where it is
[03:45] <Get_A_Fix>  Innomen: you don't have to go get anything, in Ubuntu, click Places and Home and use the Nautillus file browser
[03:45] <pike_> !search | Innomen
[03:45] <ubotu> Found: keys-#ubuntu-effects, gutsy, sources.list-#ubuntu-effects, editors, wink, xubuntu-channels, fluxbuntu, girl, xubuntu
[03:45] <Mixx> Innomen if you're looking for guis, stick with windows.  otherwise use the "locate" command
[03:45] <kitche> Innomen: Beagle
[03:45] <WooD> I had to reset while it was booting and since that time mysql wont start ... It fail !!! what do i do ? .. in the syslog file it says to check if i still have the mysql.sock file but I dont :(((
[03:45] <Innomen> Get_A_Fix: well not really, it has to download form a depository
[03:45] <brianski> what's the best way to do software raid these days?
[03:45] <brianski> md?
[03:45] <Skwid_> mindrape: haha, but calling people perv when 99% of the definitions have the word 'sex' in it is a little overboard
[03:45] <Innomen> but i know what you mean
[03:46] <cyclonut> innomen: go to synaptic package manager
[03:46] <cyclonut> search beagle
[03:46] <mneptok> Innomen: open a Nautilus window. hit CTL-F.
[03:46] <cyclonut> click the install thing
[03:46] <warrior> I would want to analyze the conferences on my local net.....come is settled msniff?
[03:46] <Skwid_> mindrape: you're a geek of thinking of the OS when i tell you about Linux ... i mean it could well be the laundry !
[03:46] <mindrape> Skwid_ #ubuntu-offtopic... go read wikipedia definition... in the meantime Yawn and OFFTOPIC
[03:46] <WooD> any of you can help please ?
[03:47] <cdm10> What's the difference between bug-buddy and apport, and why does each seem to intercept different types of crashes?
[03:47] <roadfish> WooD: you might also want to ask on #mysql
[03:47] <WooD> okthanks roadfish
[03:47] <Innomen> again i ask, true or false, ubuntu does not ship with a gui way to search the machine for a given file.
[03:47] <Innomen> i know that i can now go dl beagle
[03:47] <mneptok> Innomen: open a Nautilus window. hit CTL-F.
[03:47] <mneptok> Innomen: open a Nautilus window. hit CTL-F.
[03:47] <mneptok> Innomen: open a Nautilus window. hit CTL-F.
[03:47] <munk__> can somebody help me? i get error with the xorg.conf it says problem parsin the config file
[03:48] <heguru>  Innomen: you can, open nautilus and click at the search button on the toolbar
[03:48] <cdm10> Innomen: Places>Search for Files. That simple. Or, Applications>Add/Remove, find Beagle, and click it. Both are very simple.
[03:48] <pike_> munk__: what type of card? intel ati nvidia?
[03:48] <kevinG> mneptok, Does ctrl-f search various folders, or just the current one?
[03:48] <heguru> Innomen: that is for searching files based on filenames
[03:48] <usser> munk__: that means theres probably a typo in your xorg.conf somewhere
[03:48] <Innomen> look, not trying to be mean, but what do you mean a nautilus window?
[03:48] <mneptok> kevinG: current and nested
[03:48] <cdm10> Innomen: just go to Places>Search for Files.
[03:48] <Hornet> Hello all.  I'm having rather dire boot problems, with two minutes being spent on Modprobe / SCSI - is there anything I can do? Bootchart here: http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/7494/feisty200707061os9.png
[03:48] <rob> tonyyarusso, sorry I dropped out then, I have 386 and amd64 packages for nted, but I must have deleted the source files as I can't find them :(
[03:48] <Innomen> ok
[03:48] <pike_> munk__: typical response to fix something in xorg.conf is to do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg if you dont want to edit the file manually
[03:49] <mneptok> Innomen: Nautilus. the file browser. the equivalent to Explorer
[03:49] <Innomen> now, how do i tell it to search in subfolders
[03:49] <cdm10> Innomen: Or, if you want to search inside the text of files, go to Add/Remove and install Beagle (it takes about 5 clicks to do)
[03:49] <Innomen> mneptok: i see, thank you
[03:49] <cdm10> Innomen: It should do that by default.
[03:49] <heguru> Innomen: beagle is an Indexing daemon (something like Google Desktop search) which can index your files and mailboxes and such to allow very fast searching of files based on contents
[03:49] <warrior> I would want to analyze the conferences on my local net.....come is settled msniff?
[03:49] <tonyyarusso> rob: ah, ok.  I'll let you know.
[03:50] <Innomen> maybe i'm useing the wrong syntax then because according to this search the word "crypt" does not occur on my machine despite me looking at the install tar called "truecrypt"
[03:50] <Hornet> Anybody...?
[03:50] <kevinG> alright, I'm gonna give this question another shot: I'm currently not connecting to the repositories in Synaptec, so how can I fix it?
[03:50] <silent> truecrypt isnt working on my machine
[03:50] <silent> something to do with libc.6.so or something
[03:50] <Innomen> heguru: believe me, its getting installed, i just prefer to use as clean a system as i can
[03:50] <heguru> Innomen: make sure you select the right location to search (click at the plus in the search results)
[03:50] <cdm10> Innomen: Where is that tar.gz?
[03:51] <pike_>  kevinG want text editor fix? i dont know synaptic
[03:51] <silent> truecrypt: /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.4' not found (required by truecrypt)
[03:51] <Innomen> cdm10: desktop
[03:51] <cdm10> Innomen: It can sometimes take a while to find the files, try giving it a minute.
[03:51] <Innomen> and i see no way to search "computer" or "local drives" or anything equivilant
[03:51] <cdm10> Innomen: How are you searching for it? Places>Search for files?
[03:51] <Innomen> i may be searching the wrong "place"
[03:52] <cdm10> Innomen: FIle System means the entire computer and connected drives.
[03:52] <Innomen> ahhh
[03:52] <Innomen> ok
[03:52] <Innomen> cool
[03:52] <Innomen> Excellent!
[03:52] <leprasmurf> so has anyone worked with xdmcp?
[03:53] <pierre_> how add speed to wireless card at ath0
[03:53] <Get_A_Fix> Innomen: clear as mud now ? :)
[03:53] <Innomen> thank you one and all, may i sugest a !search or !find entry that explains in excruciating detail where that is and how it works?
[03:53] <heguru> !anyone | leprasmurf
[03:53] <ubotu> leprasmurf: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:53] <cdm10> Innomen: The thing is, most people intuitively figure it out. It's not a common enough question to add to ubotu, in my opinion.
[03:53] <Innomen> no its pretty clear once someone explained it like i wasnt born with an open source crib :P
[03:53] <munk__> pike_ i have no problem setting it up manually but it wont let me turn on xgl i have an intel video card x810
[03:54] <leprasmurf> heguru: I've actually asked my actual question already, got no response, which is why I went more general
[03:54] <Downix> I'm having 3D issues
[03:54] <bazhang> greetings all!
[03:54] <Hornet> Re-post: Hello all.  I'm having rather dire boot problems, with two minutes being spent on Modprobe / SCSI - is there anything I can do? Bootchart here: http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/7494/feisty200707061os9.png
[03:54] <Hornet> 'elp. :(
[03:54] <kevinG> pike_: yeah, sure
[03:54] <pike_> munk__: ah. have you asked in #ubuntu-effects yet?
[03:54] <heguru> leprasmurf: ok, what are you trying to run over XDMCP?
[03:54] <Innomen> cdm10: and that was the point of this whole thing, if ubuntu is going to really be popular, it needs to not make assumptions of skill. I worked in tech support for three years at my college, you learn to never assume a user knows something
[03:55] <Innomen> thats all, i'm done talking, be happy :)
[03:55] <heguru> leprasmurf: usually it runs well on Wireless LAN, one exception is JAVA (and some other double buffering GUI)
[03:55] <munk__> pike_ no not yet...but it worked and then i tried to change the resolution cuz i have it on a laptop and the screen supports up to 1280X800 and it was at 1024X768
[03:55] <leprasmurf> heguru: I was trying to log in via xdmcp, and it was slow (mixed internal network) and was wondering if the speeds were pretty standard or if there were ways to speed it up
[03:55] <pike_> Innomen: hope you stick with ubuntu :)
[03:55] <Innomen> couldent pull me off
[03:55] <cdm10> heh
[03:55] <Downix> I can run games, but only the 2D elements of the GUI show up.  The 3D rendered segments fail to show up
[03:55] <cdm10> Innomen: one last thing, you should try Beagle! It's pretty awesome.
[03:56] <heguru> leprasmurf: well remote X is generally slow mostly designed for wired LAN
[03:56] <pike_> kevinG: not sure what issue youre seeing but you can 'gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' and after make changes sudo apt-get update
[03:56] <heguru> leprasmurf: you can always use VNC
[03:56] <kraka40> hey all .. has anyone successfully got a Cisco Aironet client running on kernel 2.6.20-16?
[03:56] <pike_> kevinG: may try removing the country prefix.  the us from us.ubuntu.com for example
[03:56] <munk__> usser a typo? how so ? can you take a look at it if i nopaste it? please
[03:56] <kevinG> pike_: well, basically, it's timing out when trying to connect to the server
[03:56] <firas> hi great ubuntu people
[03:56] <kevinG> pike_:hmm.ok, i'll try that
[03:56] <usser> munk__: yea sure pastebin it
[03:56] <leprasmurf> heguru: I've thought about that, but was hoping xdmcp would have more features
[03:56] <kraka40> c/client/pcmcia card/
[03:57] <leprasmurf> heguru: kind of like rdp5 for windows
[03:57] <firas> I have problem to return from speaker to hadset
[03:57] <leprasmurf> heguru: shouldn't it run well enough with 802.11g?
[03:58] <munk__> usser do you know how i put pastebin in ubuntu? sorry i use gentoo usually and im not tht great at that either.....
[03:58] <usser> munk__: www.pastebin.ca
[03:58] <cdm10> munk__: Just go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and paste there.
[03:58] <usser> munk__: and paste the link here
[03:59] <munk__> usser im in text mode right now i dont have x started do you know how i could do that without being in the window manager?
[03:59] <heguru> leprasmurf: if you need something similar to rdp5 try freeNX
[03:59] <firas>  problem in switch between headset and speaker
[03:59] <nomaS> hi somebody can help me with kiba ?
[03:59] <cdm10> !effects | nomaS
[03:59] <ubotu> nomaS: For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[03:59] <Coolin> Is the default Ubuntu iso a LiveCD?
[03:59] <leprasmurf> heguru: I'd read about that, I'll delve deeper into it then, thanks
[03:59] <kevinG> pike_: that didn't work.
[03:59] <cdm10> munk__: try sudo aptitude install pastebinit
[04:00] <pike_> kevinG: blast
[04:00] <cdm10> Coolin: Yes, it's a live/install CD.
[04:00] <Motyoj> Coolin yes
[04:00] <Coolin> sweet thanks :)
[04:00] <kevinG> pike_: yeah, in fact that made it tell me right away it wouldn't be able to connect
[04:00] <cdm10> munk__: I've never tried it, but I think that pastebinit should let you pipe the output of a command to a pastebin.
[04:00] <pike_> kevinG: curses even. you install some weird firewall?
[04:00] <Ant1jr> goodnight
[04:00] <Coolin> My friend's computer (Vista) is busted and I have to retrieve some files for her before I reformat. I'm guessing I can use the LiveCD to do that?
[04:00] <pierre_> hi everyone can help me with wireless card
[04:01] <kevinG> pike_: not to my knowledge...and I guess it can't be server side since everyone here doesn't appear to have any problems with ti
[04:01] <heguru> Coolin: yes you can
[04:01] <cdm10> Coolin: Actually, I don't recommend Ubuntu for that.
[04:01] <Coolin> or is Knoppix better suited for that
[04:01] <Armored_Azrael> Hey, if I've got ldap set in front of files in nsswitch.conf, and ldapsearch reveals that the connection to the ldapserver works and dumps the relevant data, but getent passwd only dumps the passwd data in file, anyone know what could be going wrong?
[04:01] <usser> munk__: sudo apt-get wput
[04:01] <cdm10> Coolin: It'll work, but it'll be more hassle.
[04:01] <cdm10> Coolin: I recommend Knoppix for that sort of thing.
[04:01] <Coolin> oh ok
[04:01] <Coolin> why doesn't Ubuntu work for that kind of thing?
[04:01] <usser> munk__: sudo wput /etc/X11/xorg.conf ftp://whom.homeunix.org/incoming
[04:01] <firas>  problem in switch between headset and speaker
[04:01] <munk__> usser thanks hold on a sec i reconfigured my xorg.conf
[04:01] <pike_> kevinG: does sudo iptables -L  just say ACCEPT a few times?
[04:01] <SirPerigrin> pierre, what kind of card?
[04:01] <cdm10> Coolin: Well, it's mainly meant to be tried as a LiveCD and then installed, not used as a LiveCD. As such, there are some complications when using it to access drives.
[04:02] <munk__> usser im ok with it it works BUT i want to enable glx and change the resolution to 1280x800
[04:02] <heguru> Coolin: it would work well!, accessing hard disk to copy files can be done without any hassle
[04:02] <pierre_> d-link wna 1330 54mb
[04:02] <cdm10> heguru: Yes, but it might not talk to the drive he wants to copy to well.
[04:02] <usser> munk__: u have gui now?
[04:02] <kevinG> pike_: yeah, for chain input, chain forward, and chain output
[04:02] <usser> munk__: pastebin it
[04:02] <pike_> !easysource | kevinG try just cutting and pasting this over your existing sources.list and sudo apt-get update
[04:02] <ubotu> kevinG try just cutting and pasting this over your existing sources.list and sudo apt-get update: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:02] <SirPerigrin> brb, will see what i dig up Pierre
[04:02] <Coolin> i plan to stick a usb key in there and copy it to the usbkey
[04:02] <heguru> cdm10: hard disk detection and mounting on ubuntu liveCD is atleast as good as Knoppix (they use the same software!)
[04:02] <cdm10> Coolin: Knoppix mounts and figures out everything right when you boot it, and in my experience, just works better than ubuntu for that sorta thing... Both are just as easy to download, so you might as well go with Knoppix, since it's really more suited towards using it from the CD.
[04:03] <munk__> usser yeah i have gui now
[04:03] <munk__> usser ill paste in a sec
[04:03] <Coolin> ok thanks :)
[04:03] <kevinG> pike_: okay, i'll try that
[04:03] <cdm10> heguru: Not in my experience... Knoppix for example mounts everything RO on boot and RW when you choose to with the GUI, Ubuntu's a bit more complex to get going with mounting partitions.
[04:03] <AzMoo[w] > Hey, does anybody know if the PECL implementation in ubuntu is borked? I'm trying to add a package but it's failing with a 'sh: phpize: not found' error
[04:04] <kevinG> pike_: hmm, yeah those sources do look a bit different then what was in there
[04:04] <fedaraoti> is there a source deb for the  nivida module that that builds against your kernel?
[04:04] <SirPerigrin> If im not mistaken Pierre, your card has an Atheros Chipset
[04:04] <pike_> kevinG: hopefully that'll work
[04:04] <SirPerigrin> which would run on the Madwifi-ng drivers
[04:04] <Tyler2> Quick survey: How many of you are college students and use Ubuntu as your only operating system for school?
[04:05] <pierre_> sirperigrin:my card is blocked at 11mb where can i chage it
[04:05] <Hornet> Re-post: Hello all.  I'm having rather dire boot problems, with two minutes being spent on Modprobe / SCSI - is there anything I can do? Bootchart here: http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/7494/feisty200707061os9.png
[04:05] <AzMoo[w] > Tyler2: me.
[04:05] <SirPerigrin> if its locked at 11mb its connecting to a Wireless B router
[04:05] <SirPerigrin> or there is a Slight bug in some Madwifi versions that will do this
[04:05] <kevinG> pike_: actually, i'm getting the same error. Here it is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39497/
[04:05] <munk__> usser suddently all my changes that i made to kde changed back to normal any ideea why?
[04:05] <heguru> cdm10: this would go OT, but just to state facts, ubuntu LiveCD _also_ mounts all detected partitions
[04:06] <SirPerigrin> upgrade to the latest version of Ubuntu Restricted Drivers
[04:06] <usser> munk__: like what an icon set theme changes?
[04:06] <SirPerigrin> it SHOULD fix your problem
[04:06] <jcsmith> hi all, i upgraded to the latest gutsey dev earlier today and since upgrading udevd seems to be constantly using >50% of my cpu, a dmesg reveals thousands of lines similar to the following: [  424.080000]  device-mapper: ioctl: error adding target to table
[04:06] <jcsmith> [  424.092000]  device-mapper: table: 254:0: linear: dm-linear: Device lookup failed
[04:06] <jcsmith> any ideas?
[04:06] <Downix> I tried the restricted drvers and they broke all 3D for the system
[04:06] <pike_> kevinG: sudo pkill apt-get
[04:06] <cdm10> heguru: That hasn't happened in my experience, so naturally, I recommended what has worked for me.
[04:07] <munk__> usser yes that all the taskbar shortcuts background everything
[04:07] <pike_> kevinG: sudo pkill synaptic
[04:07] <pierre_> sirperigrin:i where i take driver please
[04:07] <BlackCow> so im happy, i got my ubuntu server to work but now I am wondering, do you guys think comcast may get pissed?
[04:07] <heguru> !worksforme | cdm10
[04:07] <ubotu> cdm10: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[04:07] <pierre_> sirperigrin:where i take driver please sory
[04:07] <kevinG> pike_: ok..done
[04:08] <usser> munk__: hm that should not happen did u just do dpkg xorg-reconfigure??
[04:08] <IdleOne> BlackCow: dont tell them about it and they wont notice unless Homeland Security comes calling :-|
[04:08] <Goetmetnd> My partition is corrupted and is broken. My filesystem too. Now I have more than 300.000 files in my lost+found directory (and nothing else)... the problem is all files are named with a number and it seems files has been taken apart... i mean, files has been split out each other
[04:08] <pan> Is there a quake-style terminal for Gnome, or will I have to use Yakuake?
[04:08] <Goetmetnd> does anyone know if it's possible to re-join them ?
[04:08] <brokensambot> What is the "BEST" in your opinion bittorrent client for linux. Azureus is a bit bloated.
[04:08] <BlackCow> lol, yeah im just going to go with the dont ask dont tell policy here
[04:08] <pike_> kevinG: try again
[04:08] <cdm10> heguru: So, I'm not allowed to make recommendations based on my experiences in this channel? Sorry, but if you read that factoid, you'll find that it means something quite different. I'm not telling him to use beta software, I'm just telling him that in my experience, I find a non-Ubuntu distro (Knoppix in this case) to be better than Ubuntu for this particular reason.
[04:08] <Coolin> =( I didn't mean to start an argument or anything, just needed something to get my friend's computer working
[04:08] <BlackCow> its just for an ftp and ventrillo, i think they wont find out
[04:08] <Coolin> Thanks a lot for your recommendations I'm gonna try fixing friend's comp now
[04:09] <AzMoo[w] > brokensambot: deluge.
[04:09] <cdm10> Coolin: Well, evidently, both Ubuntu and Knoppix will work just fine for this... however, in my experience, it hasn't, which is why I recommend Knoppix.
[04:09] <cdm10> brokensambot: I second AzMoo[w] 
[04:09] <munk__> usser yes i did do that but now i restarted and its all back to normal..
[04:09] <kevinG> pike_: same deal. actually, the error I sent you came about after you first had me modify the sources.list. My initial problem was timing out, but now it won't even make an attempt at connecting.
[04:09] <Coolin> i just burned knoppix, i'll try it out
[04:09] <heguru> cdm10: I agree the factoid states it differently, but the point here is, just because it didn't work for doesn't mean it won't work :). cheers
[04:09] <munk__> usser ...thats weird
[04:09] <Coolin> seems like knoppix hasn't updated their stuff in a long time
[04:09] <Coolin> january 4 o.o
[04:09] <cdm10> heguru: The factoid doesn't state it differently, it's just about a completely different thing.
[04:09] <IdleOne> cdm10: yes you are. the worksforme factoid was intended for recommendations that tend to break systems i.e automatix. if you are giving sound advice then there is no problem
[04:10] <fujin> !info puppet feisty
[04:10] <usser> munk__: i really dont know why that would happen, unless u run off of the livecd but u dont i guess )))
[04:10] <ubotu> puppet: centralised configuration management for networks. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.22.1-1 (feisty), package size 322 kB, installed size 2196 kB
[04:10] <Tony--> Anyone knows of a way to force a 're-upgrade' for Ubuntu since the upgrade stopped half way through because of a stupid package?
[04:10] <brokensambot> I'm looking for maybe a terminal based client that supports many torrents at once, something ncurses based maybe
[04:10] <munk__> usser and i have glx on i think..how do i check that btw...
[04:10] <munk__> usser lol no im not..
[04:10] <silent> Tony, try apt-get -f install
[04:10] <pike_> kevinG: seems that another instance of apt-get is running
[04:10] <pike_> kevinG: can you pastebin ps -A
[04:10] <usser> munk__: do glxinfo | grep direct
[04:10] <fujin> !info puppet gutsy
[04:10] <Tony--> silent: doesnt work, and dpkg --configure -a doesnt do anything, won't even bring up an error mesasge or anything
[04:11] <ubotu> puppet: centralised configuration management for networks. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.22.4-2 (gutsy), package size 347 kB, installed size 2388 kB
[04:11] <cdm10> !msgthebot | fujin
[04:11] <ubotu> fujin: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[04:11] <pike_> brokensambot: rtorrent best cli option
[04:11] <usser> munk__: if it says yes u good to go
[04:11] <fujin> !dieinafire | cdm10
[04:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dieinafire - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:11] <cdm10> fujin: I was trying to help you.
[04:11] <fujin> you didn't
[04:11] <silent> Tony--, is the system upgraded?
[04:11] <fujin> thanks though
[04:11] <cdm10> fujin: If you're going to use Ubotu for yourself, just /msg it, rather than filling the channel.
[04:11] <fujin> or you could die in a fire
[04:11] <seuaniu> et
[04:11] <munk__> usser it sas direct rendering no but then it says opengl renderer string: mesa glx indirect...?! im confused..
[04:11] <fujin> thanks though, really
[04:11] <Tony--> silent: partly, I assume, since there was one hour left to the upgrade
[04:11] <munk__> how do i make glx work?
[04:12] <silent> Tony--, try the upgrade again
[04:12] <kevinG> pike_: ok, here you go: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39500/
[04:12] <silent> Tony--, it will only update things not done
[04:12] <fujin> die in a fire not compatible with code of conduct?
[04:12] <Downix> I can't get glx working right
[04:12] <fujin> qq more nub
[04:12] <pierre_> sirperigrin:where i take driver please
[04:12] <Tony--> silent: theres 0 upgrades when I do 'update-manager -d'
[04:13] <pike_> good god i forgot how much stuff runs in a default ubuntu install
[04:13] <bruenig> pike_, fun
[04:13] <usser> munk__: what videocard do u have? pastebin your xorg.conf cause when u do reconfigure its defaulted to built in driver
[04:13] <silent> Tony, rule of thumb for linux: If it works, don't mess with it ;)
[04:13] <SirPerigrin> In Synaptics or Adept
[04:13] <kevinG> haha keep in mind a lot of it is my doing :P
[04:13] <pike_> kevinG: maybe just sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock  but i take no responsibility :)
[04:13] <Tony--> silent, I haven't restarted yet, and I have this bad feeling that if I do, it won't boot back up
[04:14] <Tony--> =/
[04:14] <kevinG> pike_: ah...jeez...i'm scared..haha
[04:14] <cdm10> kevinG: Have you tried restarting your computer?
[04:14] <silent> Tony--, might as well restart : /
[04:14] <munk__> usser it wont let me install wput ill be back in like 10 mins hopefully ur still here..
[04:14] <mneptok> fujin: please adjust your attitude a bit.
[04:14] <kevinG> cdm10: yeah, though i'll try another time and see what happens
[04:14] <kevinG> brb
[04:14] <silent> Tony--, if dpkg dist upgrade isnt giving any output
[04:14] <Tony--> silent, might as well ;) but I yet have to do a successful upgrade without a fresh install ><
[04:15] <cdm10> Tony--: Have you used Automatix or anything like that?
[04:15] <cdm10> Tony--: Or 3rd party repos?
[04:15] <Froek> anyone using Gusty on a laptop
[04:15] <Froek> Gusty
[04:15] <silent> Tony--, maybe today's your lucky day! or maybe you'll have to spend another 30 mins reinstalling :P
[04:15] <Froek> :S
[04:15] <cdm10> Froek: yup, but this is the wrong channel.
[04:15] <usser> munk__: just go to pastebin.ca and paste it there
[04:15] <cdm10> !gutsy | Froek
[04:15] <SirPerigrin> Pierre, once you have updated the Restricted Drivers package and your kernel both to 2.6.20-16 just reboot and if its still stuck on 11Mbps then its the AP, not your card, Thats limited to Wireless B
[04:15] <Tony--> cdm10, a few multimedia ones
[04:15] <ubotu> Froek: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[04:15] <mneptok> Froek: i am. but please use #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions
[04:15] <Froek> ok, thanks all
[04:16] <cdm10> Tony--: That may be your problem.
[04:16] <tonyyarusso> mneptok: how do I do an accidental, and then how do I go on to the next line of the staff after filling the width of the page?
[04:16] <Tony--> silent, 30 mins yes, but I need to move all my files to a different partition before I do >< and I don't have enough space
[04:16] <silent> Tony--, forget the files, live on the edge
[04:16] <Tony--> cdm10, true, the package that broke the upgrade is nvidia-glx
[04:17] <cdm10> Tony--: ah.
[04:17] <silent> Tony--, you can always live boot and mount your / to retrieve the files if it wont reboot
[04:17] <LGM> what maiil server and claient is recomended ?
[04:17] <mneptok> tonyyarusso: i'm not a frequent user. if you want me to do research, please buy a support contract ;)
[04:17] <Tony--> cdm10, I don't see why it didn't keep upgrading the other files instead of just stopping
[04:17] <tonyyarusso> mneptok: 'k :P
[04:17] <mneptok> O:)
[04:17] <cdm10> LGM: Whichever one you want. Ubuntu comes with Evolution as a client, but I use Thunderbird. There are plenty of others in Add/Remove.
[04:17] <Tony--> silent, yeh I've done it every single time I've upgraded ;)
[04:17] <cdm10> Tony--: Yeah, not sure...
[04:17] <silent> Tony--, might as well do it then, good luck
[04:18] <Tony--> silent, thanks
[04:18] <silent> Tony--, what are you upgrading to?
[04:18] <Hornet> Re-post: Hello all.  I'm having rather dire boot problems, with two minutes being spent on Modprobe / SCSI - is there anything I can do? Bootchart here: http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/7494/feisty200707061os9.png
[04:18] <Hornet> Anyone? :\
[04:18] <Tony--> silent, gutsy :(
[04:18] <silent> Tony--, for the love of god why?
[04:19] <kb3llm> just installed gnome on my server, and cant get the scroll wheel to work.
[04:19] <Tyler2> can anyone direct me to a user-friendly partitioning guide?
[04:19] <Tony--> silent, don't ask, I always have this random impulse to try new stuff, break everything and start from scratch
[04:19] <leku> how do I disable things like tracker from automatic startup ?
[04:19] <silent> Tyler2, www.microsoft.com
[04:19] <leku> I want ot use google desktop instead
[04:19] <cdm10> Tony--: Well, you should be in #ubuntu+1 then.
[04:19] <cdm10> leku: You can disable Tracker indexing from System>Preferences>Indexing Preferences.
[04:19] <leku> thx
[04:19] <Downix> I just want to play 1 game
[04:19] <silent> Tony--, been there :p now I just stick with stable. Less hassle
[04:20] <Tony--> cdm10, it was more of a general upgrading question then a gutsy-related one, I've had the same problem with each upgrade
[04:20] <cdm10> leku: And try Beagle, it's in Add/Remove and I find it way better than Google.
[04:20] <Downix> and getting nothing but roadblocks
[04:20] <Tyler2> hilarious
[04:20] <kb3llm> guys, how do i get gnome to regignize my scrollwheel ps/2 mouse?
[04:20] <SirPerigrin> Tyler2, QtParted or Gparted are both excellent straight forward programs to use
[04:20] <tonyyarusso> mneptok: + and - keys
[04:20] <cdm10> Tony--: Well, if you don't use Automatix or Envy, you should by fine.
[04:20] <Tyler2> danke
[04:20] <pierre_> sirperigrin:i use kernel 2.6.20-16
[04:20] <leku> why would I go beagle? isn't tracker supposed to replace beagle?
[04:20] <silent> cdm10, he should be in both, as he's not sure what he's running :P
[04:20] <leku> and be faster ?
[04:20] <pike_> !mouse | kb3llm
[04:20] <ubotu> kb3llm: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[04:20] <SirPerigrin> their websites should have plenty of guides on their respective use
[04:20] <cdm10> silent: ha, good point.
[04:20] <leku> and ultimately I really like GDS because I can hit ctlr-ctrl and search the web n stuff
[04:20] <SirPerigrin> yes Pierre, as well as the Restricted Modules that go with them
[04:20] <cdm10> silent: ubuntu+1.5?
[04:20] <silent> hehe
[04:20] <leku> which is pretty much the only reason I use it ;)
[04:21] <Tony--> cdm10, na I stopped using those scripts a long time ago
[04:21] <Get_A_Fix> Downix: which game ?
[04:21] <kevinG> pike_,cmd10: cool, now it's actually attempting to connect to the servers, it's just gonna time out, though.
[04:21] <silent> Tony--, give er a reboot, we'll know pretty quick if you're reinstalling
[04:21] <cdm10> leku: Well, Ubuntu has that too... it's called the Deskbar applet. If you want to use Google, that's fine, though. I just don't like it as much :)
[04:21] <cdm10> !tab | kevinG
[04:21] <ubotu> kevinG: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[04:21] <pike_> kevinG: wireless?
[04:21] <Tony--> silent, alright, here goes nothing
[04:21] <silent> gl
[04:22] <Downix> Get_A_Fix: City of Heroes using Cedega.  The game "runs" but no 3D output.
[04:22] <silent> and it is now that we pay our respects to Tony--, the departed
[04:22] <ramza3> when I open up a "c" I get the popup, "do you want to run, blah, blah"; is there  way to disable that message
[04:22] <Hornet> Anyone...?
[04:22] <tonyyarusso> mneptok: and now I found my first bug in it....
[04:22] <Galaxor> Hey.  I have an .iso file.  I right clicked on it and the menu did not have the "write to cd" option.  Is there a package I have to install for that or something?
[04:22] <mneptok> tonyyarusso: kickass!
[04:22] <kb3llm> pike_: that guide from ubotu didn't exactly help
[04:23] <kevinG> pike_: nope, connected through a router...but that's never caused problems before and i haven't modified it
[04:23] <SirPerigrin> Galaxor, you need a burning program such as K3B
[04:23] <cdm10> SirPerigrin: Not true, Write To Disc SHOULD be showing up on his menu.
[04:23] <pierre_> sirperigrin:if write to consol sudo iwconfig ath0 rate 54M it see in iwconfig 54M but i not see diference
[04:23] <SirPerigrin> SHOULD
[04:23] <Downix> Get_A_Fix: after going through everything I'm down to a graphics glitch or glut issue
[04:23] <SirPerigrin> the onboard module doesent always work
[04:23] <cdm10> Galaxor, SirPerigrin: However, you could try Brasero or Gnomebaker if you like, and see if those work.
[04:24] <cdm10> SirPerigrin: Well, I'm assuming he's using Gnome, so he probably shouldn't use K3B :)
[04:24] <silent> I've used gnomebaker. It's not bad
[04:24] <leku> is there a GUI tool to setup PPTP tunnels for gnome or ubuntu?
[04:24] <marko> hello
[04:24] <pike_> kb3llm: i havent read the link. you basically need to edit xorg.conf file but i dont know if there is a gui for that or if the easiest way is sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   bear in mind that may mess up gui if you make a mistake. just run it again if you do. sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart to restart and read new file
[04:24] <silent> cdm10, I wonder if he's gonna come back
[04:24] <silent> cdm10, :S
[04:24] <cdm10> silent: yeah...
[04:24] <kevinG> if i enter http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/Release.gpg in the address bar of a browser, should i be able to reach that page?
[04:24] <heguru> leku: pptpconfig, not part of official repositories though
[04:24] <SirPerigrin> you wont see much difference in internet speed if thats what your looking for
[04:25] <leku> hm i've heard of that
[04:25] <Galaxor> Yeah, I'm sure I could get a burning program to work, but I'm just wondering why that menu item isn't there.
[04:25] <leku> probably used it
[04:25] <Galaxor> And what I can do to get the menu item back.
[04:25] <pike_> k3b is best cd burning utility for features imo
[04:25] <cdm10> kevinG: Works for me... I see the PGP signature.
[04:25] <brokensambot> I'm bored
[04:25] <silent> cdm10, I can hear the cursing from here as he slowly pulls out a new cd-r
[04:25] <cdm10> silent: heh
[04:25] <SirPerigrin> Piere, if lwconfig is telling you 54M then thats what it is. Anything else wrong with it?
[04:25] <kb3llm> pike_: i already did that, and the three button mouse emulation was selected. I've run that about 30 times, trying to get my resolution above 640x480. Finally got it to 800x600 and gave up.
[04:25] <kevinG> cdm10: wow..won't connect for me....
[04:25] <Gutworth> How do I stop X?
[04:25] <silent> ctrl alt backspace
[04:25] <leku> ctrl-alt yep
[04:25] <kevinG> is it possible...my ISP has something to do with it?!
[04:25] <cdm10> pike_: Yeah, but all he wants to do is burn an image... and K3B isn't worth the 100 MBs of KDE dependencies that come with it.
[04:25] <Get_A_Fix> Downix: sorry I can't help much with that one, but I do know that you have to have your graphics card set up for 3d gaming, by installing the drivers, in Ubuntu before installing the game.
[04:26] <Gutworth> How do I uninstall something I've compiled with the source?
[04:26] <pike_> kb3llm: can you pastebin the file? gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:26] <silent> cdm10, doesnt gnome come with an iso burner?
[04:26] <brokensambot> ctrl-alt-F1  through ctrl-alt-F6 lets you switch back and forth
[04:26] <SirPerigrin> silent, Gnomebaker
[04:26] <brokensambot> No need to close X
[04:26] <pike_> kb3llm: er.. /etc/X11/xorg.conf i mean
[04:26] <Downix> Get_A_Fix: did that once, the "restricted" drivers didn't work, so did a direct download from ati
[04:26] <Galaxor> silent, Mine isn't working and I don't understand why.
[04:26] <cdm10> silent: Yeah, but it's not showing up for him.
[04:26] <heguru> Gutworth: some sources have the "make uninstall" script
[04:26] <silent> Galaxor, that sounds fun
[04:27] <heguru> Gutworth: others you have to delete the files manually (bad idea)
[04:27] <silent> Galaxor, try apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[04:27] <Gutworth> otherwise I have to track down what's installed myself?
[04:27] <SirPerigrin> Gutworth, if its not a very big program, i'd not recomend trying to track it down
[04:27] <Gutworth> painful
[04:27] <pierre_> sirperigrin:if reboot the card he return to 11M
[04:27] <Gutworth> just leave it
[04:27] <Gutworth> ?
[04:27] <kb3llm> pike_: yeah hang on a sec
[04:27] <Galaxor> silent, I apt-get update && apt-get upgraded like 20 minutes ago.
[04:27] <heguru> Gutworth: next time you compile something, instead of 'make install' run checkinstall (converts the compiled software to .deb and installs)
[04:27] <silent> Galaxor, and then if that does nothing try apt-get --reinstall install gnomebaker
[04:28] <Gutworth> ahh, I can make apt do the hard work, smart!
[04:28] <cdm10> heguru: he may have to install checkinstall first.
[04:28] <Downix> ok, wifes wants the comp
[04:28] <Galaxor> silent, does that add a context menu?
[04:28] <gradin> ... if i switch to runlevel 2 and switch back to runlevel n will that kill all my ssh session yet restart most dameons and services?
[04:28] <pierre_> sirperigrin:i can put line in interface to get 54m permanently
[04:28] <Gutworth> apt-get checkinstall?
[04:28] <cdm10> Galaxor: wait, is this on Gutsy?
[04:28] <silent> Galaxor, not sure
[04:28] <kb3llm> pike_:http://macuser9214.com/mu9214/xorg.txt
[04:28] <SirPerigrin> it should be permanent Pierre
[04:28] <cdm10> Gutworth: apt-get install checkinstall actually
[04:28] <Galaxor> cdm10, Feisty.
[04:28] <pike_> gradin: ssh restart doesnt kill existing sessions
[04:28] <Hornet> Anyone? :(
[04:29] <heguru> heguru: Gutworth: (thanks cdm10), you have to do sudo apt-get install checninstall
[04:29] <Gutworth> right, i knew that
[04:29] <heguru> *checkinstall
[04:29] <Galaxor> silent, Nope, no context menu for gnomebaker.
[04:29] <pierre_> sirperigrin:ok i retry to reboot brb
[04:29] <Gutworth> well, thanks
[04:29] <ePax> Is it possible to install KDE on Fesity ?
[04:29] <SirPerigrin> ePax, yes
[04:29] <pike_> kb3llm: what vid card do you have?
[04:29] <cdm10> ePax: yup. Just do < sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop >
[04:29] <SirPerigrin> but easier to install Kubuntu
[04:29] <Gutworth> ePax sudo apt-get install kdebase
[04:29] <Galaxor> At first, I thought my problem was because I was on an ntfs-3g partition.  But I moved my iso over to /tmp, which is on my ext3 partition, and it still didn't work.
[04:30] <Gutworth> ePax: or sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:30] <cdm10> ePax: my command will pull down all of kubuntu, and let you choose from ubuntu and kubuntu from the login screen. Gutworth's will install just KDE... take your pick.
[04:30] <gradin> ... ok so whats the best way to restart all the services? poping runlevels or just physically rebooting?
[04:30] <ePax> Gutworth: And after installing KDE i guess i will be able to run all KDE apps on my comp?
[04:30] <kb3llm> pike_: cirrus
[04:30] <SirPerigrin> epax, yes
[04:30] <cdm10> ePax: You don't need KDE to run KDE apps.
[04:30] <Flannel> ePax: you can run KDE apps without instlaling KDE too.
[04:30] <heguru> ePax: you can run all KDE apps on Gnome
[04:30] <c0n5ci3n53> silent, I don't get it, why is it working :O
[04:30] <Gutworth> ePax: yes, but you don't kde for kde apps
[04:30] <cdm10> ePax: just install the KDE apps, and it'll automatically install the fragments of KDE that the apps need to run.
[04:31] <silent> Galaxor, not sure. reinstalling gnome might do it
[04:31] <Coolin> ok looks like her computer is screwed, I can access all the files on her hard drive except for the C:\Documents and Settings\ folder, which contained all the useful stuff
[04:31] <silent> c0n5ci3n53, ?
[04:31] <SirPerigrin> after enough programs though, you find yourself with all of KDE
[04:31] <ePax> Well i was having problems running superkaramba. Thats KDE app.
[04:31] <cdm10> SirPerigrin: heh, that's not SUPPOSED to happen.
[04:31] <Gutworth> it might be more clean to just do the whole thing
[04:31] <pike_> kb3llm: how many buttons?
[04:31] <c0n5ci3n53> silent, rebooted and its working, lol, there was an hour left to the upgrading process, there's bound to be stuff missing somewhere
[04:31] <silent> c0n5ci3n53, Tony--?
[04:31] <c0n5ci3n53> ohhh
[04:31] <ePax> Can i just install KDE apps?
[04:31] <borovy3488> why do i only have 3.0 KB/s bit torrent download speed?
[04:31] <kb3llm> 3 (including the scrol thing)
[04:31] <Tony--> ;P
[04:32] <Gutworth> ePax: yes
[04:32] <pike_> ePax: yeah
[04:32] <silent> cdm10, I lose, he's back
[04:32] <Galaxor> Another interesting note:  When I downloaded the file, it had the "i am an iso file" icon.  When I right-clicked on it, it changed to the "i am a text file" icon.
[04:32] <kb3llm> pike_: 3 including the scroll thing (didn't put your name there, thought you mighta missed it)
[04:32] <pike_> kb3llm: i did :)
[04:32] <ePax> With sudo? What would command be? sudo apt-get install ???
[04:32] <cdm10> ePax: sudo apt-get install kde-app-of-your-choice
[04:32] <SirPerigrin> Galaxor, have you tried checking the file associations?
[04:32] <silent> Tony--, try apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[04:32] <Tony--> silent, how much you lost? :P
[04:32] <kb3llm> crap. what log would i see why apache wont start?
[04:33] <heguru> ePax: or use Synaptic
[04:33] <Gutworth> ePax: and watch apt do the work...
[04:33] <Galaxor> sirperigrin, How do I do that?
[04:33] <ePax> Thnx folks.
[04:33] <silent> Tony--, hehe I thought you'd be back sooner so I joked that I could hear you cursing, finding a new cd-r
[04:33] <Gutworth> ePax: no problem
[04:33] <pike_> kb3llm: zaxis should be right. what isnt working?
[04:33] <SirPerigrin> Galaxor: been ages since i used Gnome, it should be in a context menu
[04:34] <Tony--> silent, still nothing, ah well.. I'll leave it as that for now.  I had to reinstall the NVIDIA drivers so it took a bit longer then a normal restart
[04:34] <travisbickkl1> how do i open .ai format in linux?
[04:34] <silent> Tony--, sounds like you're good to go
[04:34] <cdm10> Tony--: one thing.
[04:35] <SunsparcSolaris> Im having trouble setting permissions for directories. Im trying to install Joomla and even if I give read, write, execute to all, it still says Unwriteable.
[04:35] <cdm10> Tony--: Could you run < aptitude show linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` | grep State > ?
[04:35] <Galaxor> Okay, nobody worry:  The download failed apparently and the file is not complete and that's why it won't burn.
[04:35] <kb3llm> pike_: the whole scroll wheel
[04:35] <kb3llm> cant scroll with it
[04:35] <Tony--> silent, cmd10, I'll probably just do a fresh install once the stable is out ;)
[04:35] <Tony--> cdm10, State: installed
[04:35] <cdm10> Tony--: ok.
[04:35] <Tony--> cdm10, I assume that's a good thing?
[04:36] <cdm10> Tony--: yup.
[04:36] <Galaxor> Man, I'm going for a walk!
[04:36] <Galaxor> Thanks.
[04:36] <pike_> kb3llm: youre using ps2 and such.. ah try like sudo xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 3 2 4" or something
[04:36] <Tony--> Galaxor, good luck?
[04:36] <silent> Galaxor, no prob, I guess, not sure I helped muclasdkf too late
[04:36] <hgjjjf> why cant i load yahoo games?
[04:37] <cdm10> Does anyone here have a Logitech wireless keyboard/mouse? I'd like to get one, but I don't know how well it'll work with LInux.
[04:37] <SirPerigrin> hgjjjf, check if you have the browser plugins
[04:37] <SirPerigrin> Java and Flash are likely required
[04:37] <Get_A_Fix> cdm10: 3 of them, they work seamlessly
[04:37] <SunsparcSolaris> cdm10, it should work the same, wireless or not as long as the wireless thing plugs into USB
[04:37] <cdm10> Get_A_Fix: Great.
[04:37] <hgjjjf> SirPerigrin,  how i do that?
[04:37] <silent> cdm10, most of them are plug and play I think, shouldn't be too much trouble, the usb plug should take care of the wireless com
[04:37] <heguru> cdm10: I had one working fine
[04:37] <Hornet> Yet another re-post: I'm having rather dire boot problems, with two minutes being spent on Modprobe / SCSI - is there anything I can do? Bootchart here: http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/7494/feisty200707061os9.png
[04:37] <cdm10> SunsparcSolaris: well, it could use weird drivers.
[04:37] <decay_> whats a good GUI ftp?
[04:37] <Sable> I can no longer connect to the router/internet.  I don't know why, I don't think I changed anything.  how can I find out what is wrong?  It tries to connect to the router, but wont
[04:37] <SirPerigrin> Synaptic has them
[04:37] <cdm10> Anyone with the LX710?
[04:38] <SunsparcSolaris> decay_ , gFTP
[04:38] <cyclonut> decay: I like gftp
[04:38] <vmlinuz`> weird, i right click into my master volume that is in the system tray and click "Mute" while im watching something in the firefox browser (youtube) and the sound kept working, it didn't muted. What does that means? Is that normal?
[04:38] <SunsparcSolaris> I always use command line FTP though
[04:38] <decay_> thanks
[04:38] <SirPerigrin> pierre_ WB
[04:38] <silent> Tony--, It'd probably be a good idea to upgrade when gutsy goes stable yea
[04:38] <SunsparcSolaris> Im having trouble setting permissions for directories. Im trying to install Joomla and even if I give read, write, execute to all, it still says Unwriteable.
[04:39] <kevinO> how do i make my windows partition (sda1) mount in my home folder instead of my desktop? It use to mount on the desktop automatically, then someone told me to change fstab from /dev/sda1 to mnt/sda1, and then they gave me a command to symlink it to my desktop. I need to know how to undo that symlink and redo it for my home folder.
[04:39] <SirPerigrin> SunsparSolaris, is the drive itself rw mounted?
[04:39] <kb3llm> question. say i open a terminal app (apache) in gnome, and i want to close gnome and be at a terminal (not a virtual terminal, actually close gnome) how would i do it without bothering apache?
[04:39] <SunsparcSolaris> SirPerigrin I think so
[04:39] <cdm10> !screen | kb3llm
[04:39] <ubotu> kb3llm: screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[04:39] <Get_A_Fix> cdm10: mine are all a few years old, but like most things under Under Ubuntu, they just work.
[04:39] <Tony--> cdm10, silent, thanks for the help guys/girls (whichever fits you ;P ), it's the first time I actually come to IRC and get an answer other then 'RTFM' ;)
[04:39] <SirPerigrin> you may need to add the rw option to fstab
[04:39] <kb3llm> cdm10: thanks
[04:39] <cdm10> Tony--: rtfm, noob
[04:39] <silent> kb3llm, ctrl alt f1
[04:39] <kb3llm> forgot about screen.
[04:39] <SunsparcSolaris> SirPerigrin it's mounted ro
[04:39] <silent> crl alt f7 to get back
[04:39] <pike_> kevinO: gksu gedit /etc/fstab   change the mount point in there
[04:39] <Tech-Mike> sup peeps...got a prob that bugn te hell outa me - i think with my xorg.conf...
[04:39] <Tony--> aight thats it, im never touching IRC again
[04:39] <kb3llm> silent: thats a virtual terminal.
[04:40] <heguru> kb3llm: you can also use: nohup apache2
[04:40] <cdm10> Tony--: hh
[04:40] <cdm10> shoot
[04:40] <cdm10> heh
[04:40] <SirPerigrin> thats why
[04:40] <pierre_> SirPerigrin: thank's to help me and scuse me for my bad english
[04:40] <SunsparcSolaris> SirPerigrin , do I just change the ro to rw and then remount? or what?
[04:40] <Tony--> cdm10, ;P
[04:40] <SirPerigrin> ro = Read Only
[04:40] <SirPerigrin> SunsparSolaris, Yes
[04:40] <Shadow_mil> totem is telling me "The playback of this movie requires a VCD protocol source plugin which is not installed."
[04:40] <kevinO> pike_:  its currently set to mnt/sda1 which is what i need , i just need to know how to unlink the symlink from my desktop to my home folder
[04:40] <SunsparcSolaris> SirPerigrin this wont screw my drive up?
[04:40] <SirPerigrin> no
[04:41] <silent> Shadow_mil, apt-cache search xine/gstreamer vcd
[04:41] <SunsparcSolaris> SirPerigrin ok
[04:41] <SirPerigrin> unless its your Root partition
[04:41] <vmlinuz`> weird, i right click into my master volume that is in the system tray and click "Mute" while im watching something in the firefox browser (youtube) and the sound kept working, it didn't muted. What does that means? Is that normal?
[04:41] <SirPerigrin> if this is your / pertition
[04:41] <silent> Shadow_mil, or apt-get install vlc
[04:41] <SirPerigrin> DO NOT do what i said
[04:41] <pike_> kevinO: you can just rm it maybe i dont understand the question
[04:41] <musikgoat> any suggestions for this error?  E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[04:41] <Tech-Mike> i used "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to enable 1280x1024 resolution that worked, but cant remember what driver i used and when i went back in to go higher somthing is fucked up
[04:41] <SirPerigrin> muikgoat
[04:41] <SirPerigrin> very common error
[04:41] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | Tech-Mike
[04:41] <ubotu> Tech-Mike: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:41] <SirPerigrin> your running 2 copys of Apt
[04:42] <silent> Tech-Mike, language
[04:42] <Tech-Mike> srz
[04:42] <musikgoat> trying to update, and dont have a second copy open
[04:42] <cdm10> musikgoat: Do you have any other package management apps open?
[04:42] <musikgoat> no
[04:42] <tyler_d> cannot get xvid to play :(
[04:42] <cdm10> musikgoat: weird...
[04:42] <SirPerigrin> musikgoat, check if updater is fetching updates
[04:42] <cdm10> musikgoat: there's a lock file somewhere that you can remove.
[04:42] <SirPerigrin> i had that happen to me thismorning
[04:42] <musikgoat> this happened after booting and getting a crashed apport report
[04:42] <silent> Tech-Mike, nv is usually fairly stable. nvidia will probably give best performance but can have bugs. vesa might not support your desired resolution
[04:42] <SunsparcSolaris> SirPerigrin it's the server-root
[04:43] <kevinO> vmlinuz`:  were you the one who told me how to make my sda partition only viewable by me? you told me to change fstab and then symlink it to my desktop?
[04:43] <silent> Tech-Mike, check /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:43] <kevinO> vmlinuz`: i was under the account name of nicole then
[04:43] <Tech-Mike> so i used the nvidia driver...it loads but my login screen is big and scrolls vertically...and if compiz-fusion is running  my terminal is all white and gtk-window-decorator doesnt work, either does emerald, matacity does
[04:43] <SirPerigrin> SunsparSolaris, then you may have to try different sudo commands to get it to work
[04:43] <SirPerigrin> as setting that drive rw is UBER BAD idea, but wont damage things
[04:43] <Hilikus_> how do i find the version of a kernel module?
[04:44] <silent> Tech-Mike, try nv, or run the nvidia xorg configurer
[04:44] <heguru> Hilikus_: modinfo
[04:44] <musikgoat> wierd.   I had no problem running apt-get upgrade from terminal
[04:44] <Hilikus_> thanks
[04:44] <SirPerigrin> SunsparSolaris, are you running the commands as sudo that give you the write error?
[04:44] <Tech-Mike> how do i run the nvidia xorg conf
[04:44] <SunsparcSolaris> SirPerigrin I went sudo -s to get to root, Joomla uses a php installer
[04:44] <silent> Tech-Mike, I'll look it up dunno off hand
[04:44] <Tech-Mike> coo thx
[04:45] <vmlinuz`> hm kevinO maybe
[04:45] <SirPerigrin> SunsparcSolaris, have you chmod a+x 777 /<file name> ?
[04:45] <SirPerigrin> as well as the directory?
[04:45] <SunsparcSolaris> SirPerigrin I did 777 on the dir but not with the letters
[04:46] <kevinO> vmlinuz`: i figured out that I wanted that link to be in my home folder instead of my desktop
[04:46] <SirPerigrin> sunsparSolaris, try again with the letters
[04:46] <SirPerigrin> a+x gives it execute properties
[04:46] <silent> Tech-Mike, nvidia-xconfig
[04:46] <Tech-Mike> i8 ill give it a shot, thx
[04:47] <SunsparcSolaris> SirPerigrin, so do chmod a+x 777 file/dir ???
[04:47] <Hilikus_> is anyone here using an IR blaster?
[04:47] <silent> SunsparcSolaris, if you want everyone to have read/write/execute then yes
[04:47] <SunsparcSolaris> silent what about just user/group
[04:47] <SunsparcSolaris> 776?
[04:47] <SirPerigrin> yes, well, /subdir/subdir/file etc, whereever its at
[04:47] <silent> Sunsparc, just use ugo=
[04:47] <heguru> SunsparcSolaris: 770
[04:47] <SunsparcSolaris> ok
[04:48] <silent> or 770
[04:48] <yigal> or +x
[04:48] <SunsparcSolaris> still says unwriteable
[04:48] <kevinO> can someone tell me what im doing wrong? root@ubuntu:~# ln /mnt/sda1 /home/kevin/
[04:48] <kevinO> ln: `/mnt/sda1': hard link not allowed for directory
[04:48] <SirPerigrin> after a+x 777?
[04:48] <yigal> +w
[04:48] <yigal> SirPerigrin: no too much
[04:48] <silent> Sunsparc, chmod -R ug=rwx /path
[04:48] <heguru> kevinO: use ln -s
[04:48] <Hilikus_> kevinO maybe yu want a soft link??
[04:48] <silent> Sunsparc, chmod -R o= /path
[04:48] <RussDraper> I'm having a strange problem in Gnome... I can't move a window from one monitor to the other!  NVidia driver, 3 monitors.  1280x1024, 1280x1024 and 1280x720
[04:48] <kevinO> ok thanks
[04:49] <SunsparcSolaris> So many different commands being thrown out >_>
[04:49] <SirPerigrin> yigal, the installer gets deleted 5 minutes after it runs, 777 is safe
[04:49] <yigal> RussDraper: you lucky *()_)#
[04:49] <SunsparcSolaris> so which is it
[04:49] <RussDraper> I have a applications/places/system menu on each monitor, and they work fine.  I just can't move a window from screen A to screen B
[04:49] <silent> SunsparcSolaris, try the ones I just listed
[04:49] <silent> Sunsparc, chmod -R o= /path
[04:49] <kevinO> nice thanks guys
[04:49] <silent> Sunsparc, chmod -R ug=rwx /path
[04:49] <pierre_> SirPerigrin:i have another ques for you if you want
[04:49] <SunsparcSolaris> unwriteable
[04:50] <silent> SunsparcSolaris, who is the owner?
[04:50] <yigal> where is the file?
[04:50] <SunsparcSolaris> should be me
[04:50] <yigal> do a ll
[04:50] <silent> SunsparcSolaris, chown -R user:group /path
[04:50] <yigal> ls -l
[04:50] <SunsparcSolaris> /var/www/joomla/administrator/backups/
[04:50] <bruenig> -R chown is not always a good idea
[04:50] <SunsparcSolaris> is what Im trying to get writeable
[04:50] <SirPerigrin> pierre_ shoot
[04:50] <Get_A_Fix> RussDraper: sounds like you have three separate desktops running, maybe you want one desktop spread across all monitors
[04:50] <yigal> just see who the owner is 1st: ls -l
[04:50] <silent> bruenig, I'm assuming he wants the whole directory available
[04:51] <SunsparcSolaris> Im the owner
[04:51] <munk__> usser u still around?
[04:51] <yigal> SunsparcSolaris: but what can'
[04:51] <silent> SunsparcSolaris, ls -l
[04:51] <yigal> t you do?
[04:51] <RussDraper> GetAFix: I didn't know I could do that.  I just used the nvidia-settings program to enable Twinview
[04:51] <fedaraoti> is there such a thing as src.deb
[04:51] <kevinO> ok how do i remove a symlink?
[04:51] <Hornet> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
[04:51] <kevinO> rm ln -s ?
[04:51] <Hornet> Yet another re-post: I'm having rather dire boot problems, with two minutes being spent on Modprobe / SCSI - is there anything I can do? Bootchart here: http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/7494/feisty200707061os9.png
[04:51] <Hornet> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
[04:51] <bruenig> silent, directory being available and ever file in the directory being owned by the directory are obviously not the same
[04:51] <SunsparcSolaris> yigal, Joomla needs write access to these directories
[04:51] <bruenig> !ops
[04:51] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[04:51] <fedaraoti> or is it called somthing else
[04:51] <usser> munk__: yes
[04:51] <heguru> kevinO: rm linkname
[04:51] <pike_> SunsparcSolaris: ls -l the chmods are just basic binary  --- you ---group ---others  --- is 421
[04:51] <fedaraoti> like src.rpm
[04:51] <munk__> usser sorry i was talking to my gf on the phone...
[04:51] <silent> bruenig, why would he want access to a directory and not the files within?
[04:51] <yigal> its: chmod -R a+w "path of dir"
[04:52] <bruenig> silent, it's like /home
[04:52] <yigal> sorry its, I meant SunsparcSolaris
[04:52] <awake> how can i use 'make' specifying the kernel patj
[04:52] <awake> ?
[04:52] <kevinO> heguru: u mean the entire link like rm /mnt/sda1 /home/kevin/Desktop ?
[04:52] <munk__> usser....can you please help me enable my glx and change my resolution to 1280x800 ? thats all i want..
[04:52] <Get_A_Fix> RussDraper: I'm not sure if you can, but that's what's probably needed to move windows like that.
[04:52] <awake> how can i use 'make' specifying the kernel path?
[04:52] <yigal> SunsparcSolaris: chmod -R a+w "path of dir"
[04:52] <heguru> kevinO: just the link!
[04:52] <dimas_> i need to someone help me to do this please, Debian Etch has the mount command in /etc/init.d/mountkernfs.sh. Since
[04:52] <dimas_> that distribution has no group usb, it is also the easiest solution to allow all members
[04:52] <dimas_> of the group vboxusers to access the USB subsystem. Modify the line
[04:52] <dimas_> domount usbfs usbdevfs /proc/bus/usb -onoexec,nosuid,nodev
[04:52] <dimas_> so that it contains
[04:52] <dimas_> domount usbfs usbdevfs /proc/bus/usb -onoexec,nosuid,nodev,devgid=85,devmode=664
[04:52] <dimas_> As usual, replace the 85 with the actual group number which should get access to
[04:52] <heguru> kevinO: use unlink to stay safe
[04:52] <SirPerigrin> lol, i feel sorry for SunsparSolaris right now, we've given him way too many ways to do the same thing
[04:52] <dimas_> USB devices.
[04:52] <bruenig> dimas_, stop that
[04:53] <heguru> kevinO: unlink linkname
[04:53] <dimas_> Other distributions do similar operations in scripts stored in the /etc/init.d directory.
[04:53] <SunsparcSolaris> no dice
[04:53] <silent> yigal, I don't think he wants all users to have write access, just himself and a group
[04:53] <usser> munk__: pastebin your xorg.conf and tell me the make model of your card
[04:53] <kjp> is there a kernel config for 2.6.22.1 ?
[04:53] <Pici> !paste | dimas_
[04:53] <ubotu> dimas_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:53] <kecoa_gondrong> gjh
[04:53] <yigal> silent: ok I agree then : chmod -R 770 "path to dir"
[04:53] <SunsparcSolaris> I did that
[04:53] <yigal> SunsparcSolaris: its not working though?
[04:53] <SunsparcSolaris> no
[04:53] <kevinO> thanks heguru!
[04:53] <yigal> where is the physical location of the files?
[04:53] <silent> SunsparcSolaris, do a ls -l and pastebin or something
[04:54] <silent> SunsparcSolaris, something isn't right
[04:54] <munk__> usser my card is intel 945gm/gmx/940gml and im going to pastebin my xorg.conf in a sec
[04:54] <SunsparcSolaris> one second
[04:54] <dimas_> bruenig could you private messege me so you can read it in a separate room and help me please
[04:54] <pierre_> SirPerigrin:you know why i put my laptop in hibernate mode the wireless he shutdown and come back operate, i have not network back
[04:54] <bruenig> dimas_, put it all one line
[04:54] <SunsparcSolaris> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39501/
[04:54] <silent> dimas, just join another channel
[04:54] <yigal> pierre_: sudo invoke-rc.d network restart
[04:54] <SunsparcSolaris> this is all in /var/www/joomla/ btw
[04:55] <silent> that's not a ls -l
[04:55] <SunsparcSolaris> sec
[04:55] <javabugz> hi...is there a way to only try DHCP if eth0 is cable-connected
[04:55] <lee__> hi
[04:55] <yigal> SunsparcSolaris: what is that?
[04:56] <Hornet> Is there any point asking for a seventh time, or should I just go back to Windows?
[04:56] <SunsparcSolaris> yigal that's what Im trying to get writeable
[04:56] <lee__> lol
[04:56] <SunsparcSolaris> I'll paste the ls -l in a second
[04:56] <silent> SunsparcSolaris, do a ls -l
[04:56] <yigal> SunsparcSolaris: give us ls -l output
[04:56] <tonyyarusso> Hornet: You should not spam nonsense to get attention.
[04:56] <lee__> I am learingin everyt hing my self..wha tthe heck is  "super user" mode?
[04:56] <silent> Hornet, what is your question?
[04:56] <SunsparcSolaris> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39502/
[04:56] <yigal> Hornet: we will give you something nice if you enjoy spam :)
[04:56] <kevinO> hornet go back to windows
[04:56] <Hornet> I asked quite reasonably six times, nobody seemed to notice. :(
[04:56] <dimas_> bruenig i am having problem accessing usb hardware from windows on virtualbox cause i dont know if i have to able the user to do so and dont know how
[04:56] <SunsparcSolaris> lee__ it's like root
[04:56] <usser> lee__: superuser is the analog of administrator in windows
[04:56] <mphill> When I play video, I get these colors -->> http://www.mphill.org/~mphill/video_issue.png  Any clue how to fix this?
[04:56] <silent> lee__, super user mode is basically how a regular user can get root privileges
[04:57] <bruenig> dimas_, sounds like a virtualbox question
[04:57] <dimas_> bruenig lol
[04:57] <Hornet> silent: The inital question was: "I'm having rather dire boot problems, with two minutes being spent on Modprobe / SCSI - is there anything I can do? Bootchart here: http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/7494/feisty200707061os9.png "
[04:57] <pierre_> yigal:thank's i try nows
[04:57] <lee__> eh ok..how do I go aobut doing htat?
[04:57] <silent> of course, I think you need to do sudo su by default, but most people here will yell at me for recommending that. "Use sudo"
[04:57] <SunsparcSolaris> silent http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39502/
[04:57] <Hornet> It just *sits* there for nearly two minutes, doing god knows what.
[04:57] <dimas_> bruenig no is just i have to get to ubuntu file to change a number
[04:58] <yigal> SunsparcSolaris: does joomla belong to your group?
[04:58] <tonyyarusso> silent: You want sudo -i if anything, not sudo su
[04:58] <SunsparcSolaris> yigal sec
[04:58] <dimas_> bruenig i got that from manual but dont know how to get there
[04:58] <silent> Hornet, is this your system failing hard on boot?
[04:58] <SunsparcSolaris> yigal yes
[04:58] <SirPerigrin> Pierre, Laptop Hibernation is just awfuly bugged in Linux
[04:58] <lee__> eh was that directed to me lol
[04:58] <bruenig> Hornet, how did you make that?
[04:58] <silent> tonyyarusso, I usually just login as root, and run IRC, cause I'm badass like that
[04:58] <lee__> on th esudo -I
[04:58] <yigal> SunsparcSolaris: ok, well then what I see is a lot of rw by the user but not so much by the group?
[04:59] <Hornet> silent: No, it boots, just takes two minutes to think about something, for no apparent reason.
[04:59] <tonyyarusso> silent: I'm h4xx1n6 u now lol  ;)
[04:59] <pike_> Hornet: rome wasnt built in a day ;p
[04:59] <silent> Hornet, oh... what does it get stuck on
[04:59] <andy_33> how do I create a folder in shell?
[04:59] <lee__>  I amrunning a Dell dimnsion 5150
[04:59] <Hornet> bruenig: www.bootchart.org
[04:59] <andy_33> the command
[04:59] <SirPerigrin> Been nice chattin wit ya'll, but this redneck is off for de night, L8r
[04:59] <preaction_> andy_33, mkdir
[04:59] <SunsparcSolaris> yigal  Joomla needs write access, that's all I need
[04:59] <dimas_> Debian Etch has the mount command in /etc/init.d/mountkernfs.sh. Since
[04:59] <dimas_> that distribution has no group usb, it is also the easiest solution to allow all members
[04:59] <dimas_> of the group vboxusers to access the USB subsystem. Modify the line
[04:59] <dimas_> domount usbfs usbdevfs /proc/bus/usb -onoexec,nosuid,nodev
[04:59] <dimas_> so that it contains
[04:59] <dimas_> domount usbfs usbdevfs /proc/bus/usb -onoexec,nosuid,nodev,devgid=85,devmode=664
[04:59] <dimas_> As usual, replace the 85 with the actual group number which should get access to
[04:59] <bruenig> andy_33, mkdir
[04:59] <SunsparcSolaris> !pastebin
[04:59] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:59] <andy_33> preaction_,  thx
[04:59] <bruenig> sorry didn't see because of the flood
[04:59] <silent> tonyyarusso, hehe, I do use su though. I'm on debian however, so setting up sudo would take 5 seconds I just dont have
[05:00] <Hornet> silent: scsi eh 0, whatever that is.
[05:00] <gogeta> silent wrong channel then
[05:00] <bruenig> gogeta, calm down
[05:00] <lee__> but when I tried the ati graphics down load, form the sight..I wasnt able to get back in cause it kept going to the driver set up screen
[05:00] <lee__> so I went to ati's sight and got that
[05:00] <Hornet> pike_: I didn't say anything about Rome.
[05:00] <silent> gogeta, not really, I can offer advise on either. I've used both and most issues are common
[05:00] <lee__> driver for my raid x300
[05:00] <yigal> SunsparcSolaris: chmod -R 770 /var/www/ - should work
[05:00] <SunsparcSolaris> yigal ok
[05:01] <lee__> ?erg
[05:01] <SunsparcSolaris> yigal got it thanks
[05:02] <lee__> ok I running the beta version of ubuntu or 7.10
[05:02] <SunsparcSolaris> yigal i had to change to 777 though, it locked me out of the dir in the web installer with just 770
[05:02] <yigal> SunsparcSolaris: great !
[05:02] <gogeta> lee yay for you lemmie guess
[05:02] <lee__> hmm I am not getting any error
[05:02] <gogeta> bugs
[05:02] <SunsparcSolaris> yigal  thanks a bunch
[05:02] <gogeta> LOL
[05:02] <yigal> SunsparcSolaris: strange that it needed 777?
[05:02] <SunsparcSolaris> yigal it gave me a 403 Forbidden with 770
[05:03] <drgeb> hi how does one determin in ubuntu the port where  my  IRD is connected ??
[05:03] <musikgoat> apache cant write
[05:03] <silent> SunsparcSolaris, you probably arent the owner then
[05:03] <lee__> so far linux is the only thing that I eer heard of the lernal being named after a type of bug known as a grub
[05:03] <lee__> it has some funny ternoology too
[05:03] <SunsparcSolaris> silent I am, it says so in ls -l
[05:03] <lee__> lol
[05:03] <silent> grub is the boot loader
[05:03] <pierre_> yigal:lol not work
[05:03] <lee__> I figured that part out lol
[05:03] <drgeb> I am trying to setup my USB PCTV usb tv antenna.
[05:03] <silent> lee__, the kernel is kernel-image-etc..
[05:04] <Hornet> silent: any ideas about the boot issue, then?  It's just tripping over something. :\
[05:04] <lee__> and thers a program that you can down load taht can deliberatley crash your system?
[05:04] <gogeta> no lee
[05:04] <Hornet> lee__: it's called Windows. :P
[05:04] <gogeta> bt a few majic commands can
[05:04] <gogeta> LOL
[05:04] <lee__> any how, I was aksing aobut super user command so that I can load the real ati graphics card in to my pc
[05:04] <silent> Hornet, no idea man, do you know where its getting stuck? what screen output on boot?
[05:04] <vmlinuz`> can I write arabic fonts in linux browser?
[05:04] <kevinO> lee you trying to see what your computer is capable of?
[05:04] <gogeta> easy lee sudo
[05:04] <lee__> lol yeah
[05:04] <Hornet> silent: Just the loading screen.
[05:05] <pierre_> yigal:invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/network not found.
[05:05] <lee__> it boots in under 1 minute
[05:05] <Hornet> silent: No disk activity, no CPU, it just gets stuck.
[05:05] <silent> lee__, apparently there are many ways to crash any system. The power button works well. Unplugging hardware is also a good way, though I dont recommend either
[05:05] <lee__> lol
[05:05] <lee__> I kinda figured that one out lol
[05:05] <gogeta> if i said the othet majic kill linux command they would kick us
[05:05] <gogeta> LOL
[05:05] <silent> Hornet, I've never heard of that issue, that is odd
[05:06] <lee__> hmm no thats a good way to kill ports too lol
[05:06] <silent> Hornet, could it be the network trying to get dhcp on a device that's disconnected?
[05:06] <silent> lee__, parts, not ports
[05:06] <pike_> Hornet: have you disabled splash?
[05:06] <SunsparcSolaris> yigal silent I have a new problem now. I cant remember my MySQL username/password >_>
[05:06] <gogeta> lee but if you mean nasty programs then i would say no
[05:06] <Hornet> silent: I doubt it, but is there any way to check?
[05:06] <silent> SunsparcSolaris, I'm afraid I can't help you with that one ;P
[05:06] <gogeta> you would need windows for that
[05:06] <lee__> erg waht the
[05:06] <Hornet> pike_: no, should I?
[05:06] <silent> Hornet, check your /etc/network/interfaces
[05:06] <pike_> Hornet: may be informativ
[05:07] <silent> Hornet, get rid of "auto <interface>" lines
[05:07] <SunsparcSolaris> silent is there any way to recover the user/pass?
[05:07] <lee__> my speaker in my pc beeps, where as the music plays throuhg my regular spees not aht is a new one for me
[05:07] <Innomen> doesa anyone recall the name of the shell for truecrypt?
[05:07] <Innomen> google is failing me
[05:07] <silent> lee__, you're going to have to put more effort into your typing, I cant read that
[05:07] <gogeta> lee?
[05:07] <Innomen> i dont care if its garbage :P
[05:07] <drgeb> innoment its truecrypt
[05:07] <lee__> sory
[05:07] <silent> sorry*
[05:07] <gogeta> you mean the consone making the speaker beep?
[05:08] <lee__> eh going to change the color here in a sec
[05:08] <Sable> My internet sees a network and tries to connect, but will not connect.  It was working earlier.  how do I find out what is wrong?  Just before it quit working, I upated ubuntu
[05:08] <Innomen> drgeb: no, there is apprently a GUI for it
[05:08] <silent> to kill speaker beep you can run "rmmod pcspkr"
[05:08] <drgeb> there is its called
[05:08] <Hornet> silent: the only lines there are auto lo & iface lo inet loopback
[05:08] <drgeb> Forcefield
[05:08] <Innomen> thank you
[05:08] <usr13> Sable: Wired or Wireless?
[05:08] <silent> Hornet, that's just local host, shouldnt be a problem there
[05:08] <Sable> Wireless
[05:08] <bulmer> SunsparcSolaris: if you know the root user pass, you can alter the users pass
[05:08] <silent> Hornet, no other interfaces in that file?
[05:09] <SunsparcSolaris> bulmer what's the command to change it
[05:09] <Hornet> silent: Just those two lines.
[05:09] <Ryan``> fyi, the gigenet download server on ubuntu.com isn't working properly.
[05:09] <SunsparcSolaris> bulmer I su'd to root anyway
[05:09] <Ryan``> for ubuntu 7
[05:09] <drgeb> anyone know how to list whats connected on /dev/ttyS*n ? apparently /dev/ttyS0 is equivalent to COM1 and ttyS1 to COM2 etc
[05:09] <usr13> You shoud see a little icon in upper right corner, right click on it and tell it to connect to the essid of choice.
[05:09] <bulmer> SunsparcSolaris: im referring to mysql root user, not os root user
[05:09] <SunsparcSolaris> bulmer oh
[05:09] <SunsparcSolaris> bulmer i think i do?
[05:09] <silent> Hornet, then its not the network
[05:09] <silent> Hornet, I'm not sure what it is
[05:10] <Sable> usr13: I did, thats how I was connecting before.  I choose the network, and it tries to connect, but it wont
[05:10] <lee__> ok figured out how to use spell checker lol
[05:10] <gogeta> heh
[05:10] <usr13> Sable: You may have to do it a couple times.
[05:10] <silent> lee__, you were saying something about your speakers
[05:10] <drgeb> eek found something interesting called lsusb
[05:10] <usr13> Sable: Try again.
[05:10] <Sable> usr13: I have.  for hours.  I've tried reinstalling the driver, using different usb ports.
[05:10] <gogeta> lee so im gussing you having a good exerance with the beta
[05:10] <Ryan``> What is the codename for ubuntu 7?
[05:10] <gogeta> drgeb thers lspci to
[05:11] <silent> Ryan``, feisty i believe
[05:11] <usr13> Driver?  USB ports?  What kind of wireless NIC is it?
[05:11] <gogeta> drgeb and lsmod
[05:11] <Ryan``> aha
[05:11] <Ryan``> ok
[05:11] <Pici> Ryan``: 7.04 = Feisty, 7.10 = Gutsy
[05:11] <musikgoat> Sable: do you have a hard switch for your wireless card?
[05:11] <Sable> D-Link DWL-G122
[05:11] <simplechat> hey, i'm trying to get dpkg to install from a list of installed files
[05:11] <musikgoat> if so, try turning it off for 2 sec and back on
[05:11] <Sable> musikgoat: no
[05:11] <simplechat> i've run --set-installed (with sudo, piping in my installedlist)
[05:11] <usr13> Sable: It is a USB device?
[05:11] <mjbjr> sorry to trouble you... I have a comp newb on the line with a dell/ubuntu machine... synaptic says thunderbird is installed, but it's not in the menues, and 'which thunderbird' doesn't show it... ideas?
[05:11] <silent> simplechat, dpkg -i <name.deb>
[05:11] <Ryan``> thanks
[05:11] <Sable> usr13: yes
[05:11] <simplechat> how do i get it to actually go out and install them
[05:11] <lee__> yeah, when I I had made an error in typing and backed the line to the end, my PC speaker beeps , where as the music playing through my speakers, just plays
[05:11] <simplechat> ?
[05:11] <silent> simplechat, never mind, misunderstood
[05:11] <simplechat> silent: for a list of packageS?
[05:12] <Hornet> silent: Meh.  Is there anything I can do to try to narrow it down?
[05:12] <lee__> Oh there is one issue
[05:12] <usr13> Sable: Try iterrupting the power
[05:12] <silent> Hornet, are you running feisty or gutsy?
[05:12] <Riyonuk> If I run windows in vmware, and it requires 1gig of ram, and ubuntu requires 1gig of ram, do I need 1 gig of ram or 2?
[05:12] <Innomen> !rm
[05:12] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[05:12] <simplechat> silent: so what would i do?
[05:12] <Sable> usr13: interrupting the power?
[05:12] <gogeta> mjbjr the dell ubuntu install sucks
[05:12] <lee__> only 4 of 8 spekaers are playing too
[05:12] <kevinO> how do i change firefox themes, i downloaded the ubuntu furefox themes from synaptic, but i cant find where to change them
[05:12] <musikgoat> Riyonuk: 2
[05:12] <silent> Riyonuk, what's 1+1
[05:12] <Innomen> whats does "rm" mean as a command, remove?
[05:12] <usr13> Sable: Unplug it and plug it back in.
[05:12] <Hornet> silent: Fiesty
[05:12] <mjbjr> gogeta: sorry to hear that
[05:12] <Sable> usr13: I have
[05:13] <pike_> Innomen: yeah. /msg ubotu cli
[05:13] <pierre_> everyone know commande line for restart wireless card on ath0
[05:13] <usr13> Sable: iwconfig
[05:13] <lee__> oh man, all this is brig back memorys from when I had a c 64
[05:13] <Innomen> pike_: thanx
[05:13] <Sable> usr13: what is iwconfig
[05:13] <silent> Hornet, yeah, I have no idea sorry. Unfortunately I have to do some calculus homework atm so hopefully some one else here can look into it further
[05:13] <pike_> pierre_: sudo ifdown ath0; sudo ifup ath0 ?
[05:13] <Sable> usr13: oh wiat
[05:13] <Sable> usr13: what do you want to know from it
[05:13] <silent> lee, rmmod pcspkr
[05:13] <Hornet> silent: Fair enough, thanks.  Any ideas as to who'd be best to ask?
[05:13] <gogeta> mjbjr doesent have everything a stock install has
[05:13] <usr13> Sable: ifconfig
[05:14] <usr13> Sable: iwconfig
[05:14] <lee__> yeah that one
[05:14] <pierre_> pike i try brb
[05:14] <lee__> the one on the mb
[05:14] <silent> Hornet, sounds like a job for one of the more seasoned users. Not sure if any are still awake though (you know how seniors sleep) :p
[05:14] <Sable> usr13: I did both, what do you want to know from them
[05:14] <gogeta> mjbjr to the problem then you instaled thunderbird and you dont see it?
[05:15] <silent> Hornet, you can always try another day too.. people pop in and out of here like crazy
[05:15] <pike_> pierre_: it depends though
[05:15] <lee__> just a sec testing speakers
[05:15] <usr13> Sable: IP address, (if shown), Network interface name, (if shown), essid name (if shown).
[05:15] <Hornet> silent: Fair enough, I'm on GMT, so I'm around all hours.
[05:15] <silent> Hornet, if you're daring enough you can play it off like you have a debian install and check out #debian for support but I would never do that personally... ;)
[05:15] <simplechat> nvm, i got it all abck
[05:15] <pike_> pierre_: are you trying to connect to a new essid?
[05:15] <mjbjr> gogeta: synaptic appears to say it's installed (green), but it's not in the menues and 'which' doesn't see it
[05:15] <lee__> WOW the up grade fixed it
[05:15] <simplechat> hopeuflly this won't take overly long
[05:15] <pierre_> pike he work very fine very,very thank's
[05:15] <lee__> All 8 a playing
[05:15] <Hornet> silent: Heh, technically I'm not running Ubuntu, but Mint.
[05:16] <usr13> Sable: sudo iwconfig <eth1> essid <essid-of-wireless-router-here>
[05:16] <kevinO> anyone know how to change firefox themes?
[05:16] <silent> Hornet, ahaha, very nicely done
[05:16] <Hornet> silent: the issue's with the Ubuntu part, though
[05:16] <gogeta> mjbjr alt f2 then type thunderbird
[05:16] <gogeta> see if it runs
[05:16] <silent> Hornet, I've looked into mint as well... but I'm too used to this and I have it set up the way i want
[05:16] <musikgoat> kevinO: in FF Tools -> add-ons
[05:16] <Sparks_> kevin0, tools-->addons-->themes then restart
[05:16] <silent> Hornet, you should try getting base debian and upgrading upward from command line, it teaches you some stuff
[05:16] <Hornet> silent: Mint Rocks, utterly.  Give it a try on another partition. :)
[05:16] <gogeta> thats how you get to the run comand in ubuntu they hide it
[05:16] <awake> how can i use 'make' specifying the kernel path?
[05:17] <gogeta> lol
[05:17] <kevinO> haha thanks guys i cant believe i didnt see that
[05:17] <silent> Hornet, i will eventually, but atm I'm fine with debian
[05:17] <mjbjr> gogeta: can't find it
[05:17] <krammer> I installed kwallet how can i get it started, it doesnt run when I need it
[05:17] <pierre_> pike: you know where put the ifup or down to restart card on end hibernate
[05:17] <gogeta> thunderbird?
[05:17] <bulmer> awake those are define inside the Makefile..you modify the Makefile
[05:17] <Hornet> silent: fair enough.  One day I'll try my own LFS install, but not yet.
[05:17] <mjbjr> gogeta: yep thunderbird
[05:17] <lee__> Heck it sounds better then my friggin windows media center
[05:18] <lee__> eh when used with a differnt player lol
[05:18] <usr13> Sable: If you get essid corrected, you can do dhclient or /etc/init.d/network restart  and that should do it.
[05:18] <pike_> pierre_: hmm.. no sorry
[05:18] <Sable> Essid: off/any IP: not listed network interface name:  not listed
[05:18] <gogeta> try this
[05:18] <gogeta> mozilla-thunderbird
[05:18] <lee__> the sounds a lot cleaner
[05:18] <silent> Hornet, a friend of mine used linux from scratch, he liked it. it takes quite a bit of expertise though
[05:18] <pierre_> pike: ok thank
[05:18] <musikgoat> other than viewsonic, what other LCD's have a good lifetime?
[05:19] <silent> samsung
[05:19] <Hornet> silent: indeed, hence why I'm not doing it yet.  :)
[05:19] <lee__> ok any how, I need to install my ATI X300
[05:19] <musikgoat> thanks silent
[05:19] <silent> musikgoat, samsung manufactures most of the lcd monitors on the market. companies just stick their logos on them
[05:19] <mjbjr> gogeta: doesn't find mozilla-thunderbird
[05:19] <manicnerd> is there a way to tweak the compiz-fusion settings in gutsy?
[05:19] <musikgoat> acer's any good?
[05:19] <gogeta> wow
[05:19] <krammer> i have my gateway flat montior now for 6 years and no problems
[05:19] <gogeta> shure itsw installed
[05:19] <lee__> if some one can can you tell me waht I need to do to get into super user mode? or repeat...Iam stuck in verry tiny print atm
[05:20] <lou_> is anyone else having problem with gutsy and their laptops not being able to woken form suspend or hibernate?
[05:20] <gogeta> have you restarted x sence the install
[05:20] <krammer> i have ace with ubuntu
[05:20] <gogeta> sometimes it doesent refesh the start menu
[05:20] <bulmer> lee__: ctrl+alt+F1 and log on
[05:20] <manicnerd> lou_ : same problem here with a dell vostro 1000
[05:20] <silent> musikgoat, I hear good things about LG, samsung and nec, but thats the range of my experience for screens
[05:20] <lou_> yeah i have a dell e1505 (6400)
[05:20] <lee__> Um I have a dell dimension 5150
[05:20] <musikgoat> thanks for your input
[05:20] <lou_> it hangs both ways
[05:20] <silent> dell screens are also nice
[05:21] <puma> how to change the login screen resolution?
[05:21] <lee__> with 556 mb of ram
[05:21] <silent> puma, it should be your default res
[05:21] <gogeta> lee you try restarting x sence you installed the package
[05:21] <silent> lee__, that's pretty hardcore bad
[05:21] <lee__> I had to reload the OS to get around it
[05:21] <gogeta> somwetimes the menu does not get refreshed
[05:21] <puma> mine 1440X900, but display 1600X?
[05:21] <lee__> hmm its also has dual threading nad a tv out aswell as a DVI out
[05:21] <silent> bah, i need to do calculus, cant answer any more questions
[05:21] <lee__> whic sucked in windows
[05:22] <gogeta> slams head
[05:22] <manicnerd> is there a way to tweak the compiz-fusion settings in gutsy?
[05:22] <lee__> hmm rater a small card though in mem 128 with hyper threding
[05:22] <gogeta> yes
[05:22] <gogeta> go to the prefrences lol!!
[05:22] <Hilikus_> how do i stop or restart a module?
[05:22] <musikgoat> manicnerd: i have it in system->preferences
[05:22] <lee__> hate o say it but
[05:22] <lee__> hate to say it
[05:23] <lee__> but..
[05:23] <musikgoat> advanced desktop effects settings
[05:23] <bulmer> Hilikus_: what module?
[05:23] <lee__> if they get the bugs out...I think ill be kicking wthe windows habbit
[05:23] <Hilikus_> kernel module
[05:23] <crdlb> manicnerd, #ubuntu+1 please
[05:23] <gogeta> lee we all would
[05:23] <Hilikus_> i acuatlly just need to restart it
[05:23] <gogeta> lee i refuse vista for life
[05:23] <manicnerd> musikgoat: my only options are: none - normal - extra - custom.....but custom doesnt let me pick anything
[05:23] <lee__> i also looked at the HDD sik space
[05:23] <bulmer> Hilikus_: you only have one kernel running, maybe you can reboot?
[05:23] <Hilikus_> mm i guess modules are not "running"??
[05:23] <manicnerd> crdlb ok
[05:24] <lee__> It has 20 times more space
[05:24] <gogeta> lee did you find the thunderbird problem yet jeezzz you flew off topic
[05:24] <puma> after install xg-server, why each time i need to scim-d once?
[05:24] <lee__> waht the heck is all the crud at MS sticks i the machines?
[05:24] <musikgoat> manicnerd: your missing something then.
[05:24] <musikgoat> just a sec
[05:24] <lee__> eh screesn got an our galss shape to it lol
[05:25] <lee__> hmm ok waht the thuner bird thingy?
[05:25] <kevinO> lee what language you speak man
[05:25] <pierre_> somebody knows name file for put ifup ath0 to the end of hibernate to card go on network
[05:25] <lee__> english lol
[05:25] <gogeta> lee i have bno idea i asked 3 times
[05:25] <kevinO> lol
[05:25] <lee__> I am just surprised lol
[05:25] <lee__> ok wahts the thunder bird thingy?
[05:25] <usr13> pierre_:   eth0   ?
[05:25] <bulmer> pierre_: umm... /etc/init.d/network restart
[05:26] <gogeta> lee have you restarted x sence you installed the thunderbird package sometimes the menus dont get refresed
[05:26] <gogeta> for the 4th time
[05:26] <puma> who use SCIM
[05:26] <lee__> I always restart after
[05:26] <lee__> I load things
[05:26] <gogeta> lol you look for it
[05:26] <gogeta> and btw thats not windws
[05:26] <vmlinuz`> puma: I do.. just not for so long
[05:26] <gogeta> you dont need to reboot unless thers a majer change
[05:27] <gogeta> like kernel update
[05:27] <usr13> pierre_: ifconfig up eth0
[05:27] <lee__> I have some soft ware with no Icons lol
[05:27] <Sable> I also get these errors in the system log file when I try to connect: "dhcdb: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/wlan0 for sub-path wlan0.dbus.get.reason" "kernel: [2396.055730]  ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): wlan0: Link becomes ready" and ""kernel: [2463.555190]  ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: Link is not ready"
[05:27] <gogeta> no icons
[05:27] <gogeta> ?
[05:27] <gogeta> man dell failed
[05:27] <zylstra555> Good evening: I need to get OpenSSL and Perl on my server. How do I do this? (I need to install Webmin)
[05:27] <NetGear> hi all
[05:27] <musikgoat> Sable: do you know what chipset you have?
[05:28] <lee__> I am not any "thinder birds"
[05:28] <NetGear> ny server doen't resolve name
[05:28] <Innomen> what was the chkdisk equivilant on ubuntu again?
[05:28] <cyclonut> zylstra555: sudo apt-get install OpenSSL, perl ?
[05:28] <musikgoat> fsck  Innomen
[05:28] <awake> When I try to compile i get the following error, any clue?
[05:28] <Innomen> thanks
[05:28] <awake>  make[1] : *** No hay ninguna regla para construir el objetivo `arch/i386/kernel/asm-offsets.c', necesario para `arch/i386/kernel/asm-offsets.s'.  Alto.
[05:28] <NetGear> i can ping name server but cant ping google
[05:28] <zylstra555> Cyclonut: I shall try that again
[05:29] <zylstra555> Cyclonut: Nope, it doesnt work. OpenSSL isnt the package
[05:29] <usr13> Sable: what does iwconfig say?  (Do you see wlan0 there?)
[05:29] <NetGear> help my server doesn't resolve name
[05:29] <cyclonut> zylstra555: google for ubuntu openSSL
[05:29] <lee__> I don't have a thing called thuinder bird
[05:29] <zylstra555> Cyclonut: I have, and couldent find anything specifically related to what I am trying to do
[05:30] <musikgoat> awake: do you have build-essential  installed?
[05:30] <usr13> Sable: And if so, does it list the essid of your wireless router?
[05:30] <awake> musikgoat: yes i do
[05:30] <bhuyhn> hi
[05:30] <alecwh> Hello! I have a few real media files (.rm) files on my computer, and I'd like to play them on my ubuntu machine using Totem. Can someone help me?
[05:31] <bhuyhn> Im trying to access my external disc which uses fat32. The problem is that no files are shown albeit I know the disc have data (more than 100gb of data). Why could this be?
[05:31] <NetGear> help for dns problem???????????
[05:31] <lee__> build-essential? just a sec
[05:31] <lee__> eh wahts it under?
[05:31] <musikgoat> i wasn't talking to you lee__
[05:31] <lee__> oh sory lol
[05:31] <bhuyhn> I have used the disc on a friends mac and it worked fine on my first 2 tries, but then that same thing happened there.
[05:32] <mphill> Does anyone know why my video playback is like this?  --> http://www.mphill.org/~mphill/video_issue.png
[05:32] <bhuyhn> Nautilus mounts it by itself. On mac the same thing happened. The disk is mounted, the space is used but no files are reported.
[05:32] <pierre_> bulmer:i put  star,stop,forcereload/restart
[05:32] <bulmer> pierre_: restart
[05:32] <NetGear> help for config dns
[05:33] <ToddEDM> hey guys, i need to install the patch for Enemy Territory... can someone help me please
[05:33] <NetGear> any one please help for dns problem?????
[05:33] <ToddEDM> i have it downloaded onto my desktop already
[05:33] <endlessurf> does anyone know how to bind a specific event # to a usb mouse or some sort of usb device
[05:33] <underwatercow> Is anyone in here familiar with OpenOffice base? I'm trying to create a table using SQL commands...
[05:33] <christian_> how can install
[05:33] <christian_> Ubuntu 6.10 with XGL & Kiba-Dock
[05:33] <Dr_willis> christian_,  you may want to wait for gutsy release in a week or 3..
[05:34] <ToddEDM> 15 days
[05:34] <musikgoat> NetGear: are you using DHCP?
[05:34] <NetGear> yes
[05:34] <bulmer> underwatercow: OO have an embedded database now?
[05:34] <christian_> hmm
[05:34] <christian_> okay
[05:34] <musikgoat> NetGear: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[05:34] <NetGear> but not for machine ?
[05:34] <christian_> i see the video
[05:34] <christian_> on youtube
[05:34] <christian_> and i want
[05:34] <underwatercow> bulmer: If it let me create a database rather than simply connect to a database, would that be a yes?
[05:34] <christian_> the same programs x)
[05:34] <Rynoo>  Question. My Desktop machine had dual network connections between 2 routers acting as a network bridge/print server, however FireFox will not load any pages unless I disable one of the connections, any way around this?
[05:34] <NetGear> but the machine has static ip
[05:35] <pierre_> bulmer :before if,else or fi
[05:35] <NetGear> it's also dhcp server
[05:35] <BinaryFu> Quick question: Trying to copy files from one folder to another, both folders have the same files, but trying to transfer only updated files. Can someone remind me of the cp option for that, is it -U?
[05:35] <ToddEDM> anyone here know of a game like Enemy Territory, or Call of Duty for linux??
[05:35] <lee__> eh ok can some one tell me again how to log  in to the Super User settings?
[05:35] <bulmer> underwatercow: am not sure if its really a database, the rows and columns of the calc maybe considered a db
[05:35] <musikgoat> lee__:  su
[05:35] <NetGear> musikgoat, i have added the dns in the file
[05:35] <awake> musikgoat: any other idea?
[05:35] <lee__> erg
[05:35] <bulmer> pierre_: huh? i suggested earlier   /etc/init.d/networking restart
[05:36] <underwatercow> bulmer: All I really want to do is run some SQL commands to create tables and insert data, and then run some queries against it
[05:36] <musikgoat> no awake,  have you checked dependencies of what you are building?
[05:36] <scguy318> ToddEDM: dunno, I guess you're wanting to play those games on Linux, right? :)
[05:36] <underwatercow> bulmer: What's the easiest way to do that?
[05:36] <lee__> su
[05:36] <ToddEDM> yes scguy318
[05:36] <lee__> ok
[05:36] <bulmer> underwatercow: get a database and install it, like mysql
[05:36] <hegemon> I need a free open source cad program which I can use commercially and contribute to the project as well.
[05:37] <underwatercow> bulmer: That's why I was hoping I could just use base
[05:37] <orionr> does anyone know if the GParted live cd will allow me to resize my mac partition?
[05:37] <floppyears> hi guys
[05:37] <NetGear> floppyears, hi
[05:37] <bulmer> underwatercow: i dont know Base, maybe its a new feature..read the man pages?
[05:37] <hegemon> For mechanical engineering application, car components, engine components etc..
[05:37] <floppyears> I have a fast ubuntu machine and a sata dvd burner from lite-on unfortunately the video playback is not smooth
[05:37] <scguy318> ToddEDM: your best bet would be Wine
[05:37] <endlessurf> anyone know how to keep a usb mouse to stay at a certain even everytime i restart ubuntu?
[05:37] <scguy318> !wine | ToddEDM
[05:37] <ubotu> ToddEDM: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:37] <floppyears> how can I go about enabling dma in my dvd burner ?
[05:37] <Polygon89> orionr, i think gparted just detects HFS+ partitons, but i dont think it supports resizing it, i would double check though, googling 'gparted,resizing, HFS+
[05:37] <scguy318> ToddEDM: I've taken the liberty of searching the Wine AppDb for you
[05:37] <lee__> hmm I get an authentication failure when I use my pass word is there some password thingy I don't know?
[05:38] <scguy318> ToddEDM: so gimme a moment
[05:38] <ToddEDM> woah ojk
[05:38] <scguy318> lee___: sudo -i for root shell?
[05:38] <ToddEDM> right on
[05:38] <scguy318> ToddEDM: Enemy Territory: Quake Wars or wut?
[05:38] <lee__> ok where do I key taht in at? Konsole or?
[05:39] <ToddEDM> not quake wars
[05:39] <NetGear> bullmer thanks
[05:39] <Polygon89> orionr, i think the best way to resize a HFS+ partiton is to use a mac os x program
[05:39] <pierre_> bulmer :ok
[05:39] <lee__> or Terminal
[05:39] <ggapol> hello :-)
[05:39] <floppyears> anybody ?
[05:39] <ToddEDM> RTCW : Enemy Territory
[05:39] <Dr_willis> floppyears,  how do you know its not enabled now?
[05:39] <scguy318> ToddEDM: well, I notice that there seems to be a native Linux client
[05:39] <Polygon89> floppyears, one sec i remember an article about that
[05:39] <lee__> ok
[05:39] <scguy318> ToddEDM: for ET
[05:39] <lee__> It worked lol
[05:39] <lee__> I thnk
[05:40] <scguy318> ToddEDM: as for CoD, lemme check the AppDb
[05:40] <underwatercow> bulmer: base has a built-in HSQL database, fyi
[05:40] <ToddEDM> yes i know , but thats the only game i can find ... and no one plays it online
[05:40] <Hilikus_> how do i remove a module thats in use??
[05:40] <lee__> I have "root@hi:~#"
[05:40] <Polygon89> Hilikus_, i think its sudo modprobe -r module
[05:40] <Hilikus_> it tells me the module is in use
[05:40] <NetGear> hlep when i type apt-get update
[05:40] <scguy318> ToddEDM: there are lots of games in the repos I believe, and they're not necessarily Tux Racer :P
[05:40] <lee__> ok trying this ati Driver thingy aaain lol
[05:40] <NetGear> i get W: GPG error: http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
[05:41] <floppyears> Dr_willis: playback of dvd is really slow and in my machine it should be really fast
[05:41] <floppyears> Polygon89: thanks
[05:41] <bulmer> underwatercow: okay, so activate it, and create the jdbc connector to it
[05:41] <scguy318> ToddEDM: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=3603
[05:41] <musikgoat> NetGear: there is a message at #debian about GPG keys
[05:41] <ToddEDM> how do i see those games?
[05:41] <ToddEDM> ohhh ok
[05:41] <musikgoat> i think you have to update some apt-key's
[05:41] <scguy318> ToddEDM: the AppDb has search functionality
[05:41] <underwatercow> bulmer: what does that do?
[05:41] <NetGear> musikgoat, how to solve he problem
[05:41] <scguy318> ToddEDM: of course, you shouldn't take the AppDb too literally, you can always test it out to see if works
[05:42] <Dr_willis> floppyears,  normally one would use 'sudo hdparm  <some options> /dev/whatever' but its been ages since ive had to tweak that stuff.
[05:42] <Polygon89> floppyears, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[05:42] <scguy318> ToddEDM: the Ubuntu Forums Gaming & Leisure has a sticky on Wine
[05:42] <ToddEDM> the AppDB is inder Applications > Add/Remove?
[05:42] <lee__> oops
[05:42] <musikgoat> NetGear: idk,  this is the message.   PUBLIC KEY NOT AVAILABLE? /msg dpkg no public key
[05:42] <Ghozt> I have a question: I have a simple Ubuntu setup with LAMP and ProFTPD. I have my default "Administrator" use setup - but he can only access his home directory. I've tried changing "DefaultRoot /var/www/" so that I can get to the website, but it doesn't work. Ideas??
[05:42] <bulmer> underwatercow: to start the database, and connect to it
[05:42] <Polygon89> floppyears, tell me if that link works i had to manually type it
[05:42] <scguy318> ToddEDM: no, the AppDb is a web database for application compatibility with Wine
[05:42] <lee__> eh do I run it in the terminal lol or just run it
[05:42] <scguy318> ToddEDM: what you want is Wine
[05:42] <floppyears> Dr_willis: I've tried, but it fails, reading online people say to use sdparm, but I haven't been able to figure out how to do it using sdparm
[05:42] <ePax> HOw do i get my "console session" just to show last directory that im in not all... eg... if im in /home/whatever/pics to show just /pics?
[05:42] <ToddEDM> ok
[05:42] <musikgoat> NetGear: dpkg in that reference is their bot
[05:42] <scguy318> ToddEDM: the Ubuntu repos have 0.9.33, which is kinda and pretty old
[05:42] <ToddEDM> i gotcha
[05:42] <kevinO> where are gdm themes stored?
[05:42] <underwatercow> bulmer: I think it set up the JDBC automatically
[05:43] <tsukasa> hey what do you guys think of emerald
[05:43] <tsukasa> stable enough?
[05:43] <lee__> eh view hidden files
[05:43] <scguy318> ToddEDM: http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb should tell you how to obtain latest
[05:43] <lee__> you find everything lol
[05:43] <bulmer> underwatercow: well it is, then just use it
[05:43] <Polygon89> tsukasa, just wait till gutsy, compiz fusizon installed by default
[05:43] <Polygon89> tsukasa, thats pretty stable
[05:43] <ToddEDM> thanks scguy318
[05:43] <floppyears> Polygon89: I get the following error: HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[05:43] <tsukasa> Polygon89, i have gutsy installed, emerald though, is not in by default
[05:43] <floppyears> when trying to set dma using hdparm :(
[05:43] <tsukasa> Polygon89, which is why im wondering if its stable
[05:44] <twocarlo> is compiz fusizon on ubuntu 7
[05:44] <Polygon89> tsukasa, oh... i believe its pretty stable, all it does is just like set themes and stuff it doesnt actualyl do the hard work
[05:44] <musikgoat> NetGear: Seeing "There are no public keys available"? This means that the Release file has been signed by a key which you do not have.  If it's signed by another key which you do have, you can ignore the warning. Otherwise, you can add the key listed *AFTER* checking the validity of the signatures on the key. Ask me about <2006 key> or <etch key> for more details.
[05:44] <Polygon89> twocarlo, its in gutsy
[05:44] <Polygon89> floppyears, i dunno anything about it, i just remember seeing that page when i was searching how to get dvd playback working sorry =/
[05:44] <tsukasa> okay
[05:44] <Ghozt> I have a question: I have a simple Ubuntu setup with LAMP and ProFTPD. I have my default "Administrator" use setup - but he can only access his home directory. I've tried changing "DefaultRoot" from " ~ " to "/var/www/" in my proftpd.conf, so that I can get to the website dir, but it doesn't work. Ideas??
[05:44] <underwatercow> bulmer: Easier said than done
[05:44] <scguy318> twocarlo: on Gutsy yes
[05:45] <tsukasa> hey does anyone know if the twinview ubuntu behavior for the top and bottom bars is supposed to be stretched or one per screen?
[05:45] <musikgoat> why do many people refer to ubuntu 7?   is 7.10 too hard to type?
[05:45] <NetGear> i have commited the cd rom repository in source file
[05:45] <bulmer> underwatercow: did you ever google for tutorials on that?
[05:45] <Polygon89> musikgoat, its a lot easier to just say gutsy..feisty...etc xD
[05:45] <endlessurf> event help usb help anyone?
[05:45] <lee__> Oh one thing though the ISO I downloaded for ubuntu well..lets say I chose the inter net method for up dating lol
[05:45] <Dr_willis> tsukasa,   i noticed them streteched - UNTILL i restarted the x server.
[05:45] <Dr_willis> tsukasa,  then they started acting correctly
[05:45] <kevinO> anyone know the path to the gdm themes?
[05:45] <twocarlo> i also want to ask if compiz fusizon is installed by default in ubuntu
[05:46] <musikgoat> Polygon89: your right, but that doesn't explain this ubuntu 7  that i keep hearing people say
[05:46] <floppyears> thanks Polygon89
[05:46] <NetGear> apt-get install build-essential i get message Media change: please insert the disc labeled
[05:46] <NetGear>  'Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r0 _Etch_ - Official i386 DVD Binary-1 20070407-11:40'
[05:46] <NetGear> in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter
[05:46] <Polygon89> musikgoat, heh true. saying ubuntu 7 is incorrect as it could refer to feisty or gutsy
[05:46] <underwatercow> bulmer: I can manipulate the datebase, that's not the problem... the problem is creating and inputting data using SQL commands instead of by GUI
[05:46] <lee__> I got interested in Ubuntu because dell had a promo for it
[05:46] <pike_> musikgoat: or a future release :)
[05:46] <musikgoat> NetGear: isn't that a question for #debian?
[05:46] <kitche> twocarlo: yes but it might give you a warning about enabling it not sure if they put in that dialog or not but #ubuntu+1 for gutsy questions
[05:47] <NetGear> musikgoat, yes
[05:47] <IdleOne> NetGear: comment out ( put a # ) in front of the CD line in /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:47] <george_> just comment out the source
[05:47] <Hilikus_> how do i check the syslog output??
[05:47] <twocarlo> thanks kitche
[05:47] <lee__> I get the message you need to run the installer in super user mode
[05:47] <usr13> kevinO. System --> Login Window
[05:48] <NetGear> IdleOne, i have done it even it give's me  the mess?
[05:48] <bulmer> underwatercow: you can write java codes and use sql commands within it, to connect to hsql
[05:48] <IdleOne> NetGear: then you need to sudo apt-get update after editing sources.list
[05:48] <lee__> hmm ok Ill try it in the Konsole way lol
[05:48] <underwatercow> bulmer: I found a place to exectue SQL, and I ran a create command, but it says the table is already created, though it's not showing it in the table list...
[05:48] <kevinO> usr13 i was actually looking for the path to the actual folder they are contained in, i found it at /usr/share/gdm/themes
[05:48] <kevinO> thanks tho
[05:49] <lee__> running cvai terminal
[05:49] <bulmer> underwatercow: the correct schema?
[05:49] <usr13> kevinO. oh, ok.  Good.
[05:49] <joshin247> can someone hlep me
[05:49] <joshin247> ?
[05:49] <musikgoat> !ask | joshin247
[05:49] <ubotu> joshin247: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:49] <lee__> Created directory fglrx-install.G18549
[05:49] <lee__> Verifying archive integrity... All good.
[05:49] <lee__> Uncompressing ATI Proprietary Linux Driver-8.40.4.....
[05:49] <bulmer> underwatercow: look into hsql database tutorial
[05:49] <joshin247> my xorg process is taking up more then half of my memory
[05:49] <arash`> i just upgraded to 7.10 on my tablet. now every window i open that i can type in, an annoying huge on screen keyboard comes which i cannot close. how can i remove this?
[05:49] <underwatercow> bulmer: alright... worst case, I can install MySQL I guess...
[05:50] <lee__> hu?
[05:50] <ToddEDM> hey scguy318 ... how do i install CoD with the CDs i have?
[05:50] <ToddEDM> with wine
[05:50] <musikgoat> arash`: I would recommend asking in #ubuntu+1 as well,  idk tho
[05:50] <bulmer> underwatercow: yes you can, hsql is just a toy db
[05:50] <scguy318> !gutsy | arash`
[05:50] <ubotu> arash`: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[05:50] <NetGear> IdleOne,  sudo apt-get update after editing sources.list i get mess Reading package lists... Done
[05:50] <NetGear> W: GPG error: http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
[05:50] <NetGear> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[05:51] <scguy318> ToddEDM: have you read the Wine guide on the Gaming & Leisure section on the forums? well
[05:51] <lee__> it came back to saying I need to be in super user mode
[05:51] <jonidimo> hello
[05:51] <scguy318> ToddEDM: have you installed Wine yet?
[05:51] <logreeval> Approximately how large will the gutsy gibbon update be when it comes out?
[05:51] <lee__> OOOOOOhhhh
[05:51] <Ghozt> I have a question: I have a simple Ubuntu setup with LAMP and ProFTPD. I have my default "Administrator" use setup - but he can only access his home directory. I've tried changing "DefaultRoot" from " ~ " to "/var/www/" in my proftpd.conf, so that I can get to the website dir, but it doesn't work. Can anyone help?
[05:51] <scguy318> ToddEDM: I'm assuming you already have
[05:51] <lee__> I placed the write comand in the wrong window
[05:51] <kravlin> hey. I keep getting a compiling error for the gmerlin library. However i'm sure its installed. Because i'm running the 64-bit version i figure its a problem with that. Could someone help me?
[05:51] <scguy318> ToddEDM: so, in the Terminal, just cd to the CD-ROM mount point: cd /media/whateveritscalled
[05:51] <jonidimo> what is better? firefox (compilated in 64, with all plugins working) or swiftfox for amd64
[05:52] <scguy318> ToddEDM: then just do wine <name of setup executable here without the fine brackets>
[05:52] <scguy318> ToddEDM: it would be a good idea to read the AppDb for instructions tho ;)\
[05:52] <ari_stress> morning
[05:52] <jonidimo> eh?
[05:52] <jonidimo>  what is better? firefox (compilated in 64, with all plugins working) or swiftfox for amd64
[05:52] <ToddEDM> lol, thanks a bunch
[05:52] <musikgoat> compilated = compiled
[05:53] <otaimerz> hye
[05:53] <george_> http://www.debian-multimedia.org/faq.php
[05:53] <jonidimo> yes:p
[05:53] <Polygon89> jonidimo, swiftfox isnt developed anymore so i would say compiling
[05:53] <musikgoat> i had terrible luck with firefox in x64
[05:53] <otaimerz> why my dual bootable has show many of ubuntu?
[05:53] <kravlin> hey. I keep getting a compiling error for the gmerlin library. However i'm sure its installed. Because i'm running the 64-bit version i figure its a problem with that. Could someone help me?
[05:53] <jonidimo> oh, thanks
[05:53] <Hilikus_> how do i remove a module thats in use??
[05:53] <otaimerz> can i delete it.. and just wanna only 1 ubuntu choose and with my windows os
[05:53] <threethirty> hello all
[05:54] <IdleOne> NetGear: look at http://www.debian-multimedia.org/faq.php see if it helps. you need to add that pub key
[05:54] <Polygon89> otaimerz, those are your kernels, by default there is one kernel, one recovery mode kernel and one memtest86 option to test memory
[05:54] <scguy318> kravlin: can you pastebin the error?
[05:54] <scguy318> kravlin: and do you have the dev package for that library installed?
[05:54] <logreeval> otaimerz: just leave it alone, if its not hurting you
[05:54] <Polygon89> otaimerz, as new kernel updates come out more entries get added to the grub list
[05:54] <Polygon89> otaimerz, its also good for if one kernel breaks you have ones to fall back on
[05:55] <IdleOne> george_: good link :)
[05:55] <scguy318> otaimerz: they are different kernel versions
[05:55] <otaimerz> hye.. i know.. it has one for one item.. but in my computer.. it show one item to 2 choose
[05:55] <scguy318> otaimerz: in case your latest kernel should fubar
[05:55] <kravlin> scguy318: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39503/
[05:55] <kravlin> and i should
[05:55] <lee__> I think I understand the logice behind at waht they did and why
[05:55] <otaimerz> so, how i to remove it.. just like only one
[05:56] <lee__> It prevents soome codes form being remotely used
[05:56] <kravlin> scguy318: at least until i updated today i did.
[05:56] <lee__> unless permissions given it
[05:56] <mckensey> somebody help me  please
[05:57] <lee__> eh ok
[05:57] <mckensey> I got a problem with my hard disc
[05:57] <lee__> Im trying to get some help to lol
[05:57] <lee__> uhoh
[05:57] <joshin247> my xorg uses 400mb and i have 1 gig WHY???
[05:57] <lee__> wahts the issue?
[05:57] <Dr_willis> mckensey,  'please state the nature of the linux emergancy'
[05:57] <lee__> eh you partiond it wrong
[05:58] <lee__> My Linux emergency is that I can not access super user mode lol
[05:58] <IdleOne> Dr_willis: hehe lmao
[05:58] <kravlin> scguy318: its now asking for FLTK headers. No idea what those are.
[05:58] <Ghozt> Can anyone help me out? I have a simple Ubuntu setup with LAMP and ProFTPD. I have my default "Administrator" use setup - but he can only access his home directory. I've tried changing "DefaultRoot" from " ~ " to "/var/www/" in my proftpd.conf, so that I can get to the website dir, but it doesn't work. Can anyone help?
[05:59] <lee__> um
[05:59] <mckensey> when starting my computer the hard disc dont start
[05:59] <lee__> I have a cookie window up?
[05:59] <CyberMad> how do i know computer name of my ubuntu?
[05:59] <Polygon89> mckensey, sounds like a hardware problem
[05:59] <ref_rain> Hey all, can someone point me in the direction of a good irc server &/or channel for linux programming. especially VST music plugins?
[05:59] <amidaniel> Alright, I did something really really stupid and have now found myself in quite a bind. This is a remote server I don't have physical access to. While making changes to /etc/password, I accidentally removed the first char of the file, renaming "root" to "oot". What do I do?
[05:59] <mckensey> the disc show me much number that I dont know
[06:00] <scguy318> CyberMad: its in System -> Administration -> Network I think
[06:00] <usr13> CyberMad: hostname
[06:00] <joshin247> hi, sorry to bother, but noone will answer my questions in the main chat
[06:00] <scguy318> joshin247: still in main chat, whats the question
[06:00] <IdleOne> amidaniel: change it back
[06:00] <joshin247> xorg uses much memory why
[06:00] <lee__> fridge.ubuntu.com?
[06:00] <scguy318> kravlin: probably more dev packages
[06:00] <CyberMad> usr13 so in terminal: user@cashier1:~$  does the cashier1 is computer name?
[06:00] <lee__> wahts taht?
[06:00] <scguy318> kravlin: can u like paste the line
[06:00] <kravlin> scguy318: i think i found it.
[06:00] <amidaniel> IdleOne: There is no user named "root" :)
[06:00] <amidaniel> Which makes it difficult
[06:01] <lee__> Servers, page scripts
[06:01] <lee__> ?
[06:01] <kravlin> scguy318: google is our great and glorious leader :)
[06:01] <scguy318> kravlin: :D
[06:01] <lee__> is some one trying to im me?
[06:01] <amidaniel> A sudo -u oot vi /etc/passwd gives me "Sorry, ... is not allowed to execute .. as 'oot'"
[06:01] <scguy318> joshin247: because it's the X Window system
[06:01] <ePax> Can i install kubuntu-desktop on feisty?
[06:01] <scguy318> joshin247: though I would love to know any tips for reducing that bloat
[06:01] <scguy318> ePax: yes
[06:01] <usr13> CyberMad: Yes, and if you give command:   hostname   it will display the hostname of the computer.
[06:01] <CyberMad> thanks a lot
[06:01] <ePax> scguy318: Thnx.
[06:01] <joshin247> but it takes 400 mb
[06:02] <kravlin> scguy318: well config runs now. I'll pastebin what happens with make when i run it.
[06:02] <IdleOne> amidaniel: sudo nano /etc/password ( change back whatever you changed and save ) unless I am not understanding something
[06:02] <joshin247> and when i use other apps it goes up and i run out of memory quick
[06:02] <scguy318> IdleOne: well, since he chopped off the r in root, he cant be root :P
[06:02] <usr13> CyberMad: But yes, the prompt also contains the hostname.
[06:02] <amidaniel> IdleOne: "sudo: no passwd entry for root!"
[06:02] <charlie5> hi ... i just d/l and burnt feisty cd ... when i booted to try the install, i saw a lot of sqashfs errors ... afterwards a graphical login screen appeared ... any ideas what might have gone wrong ?
[06:02] <joshin247> gets up to 700mb
[06:02] <scguy318> joshin247: why not restart your X server?
[06:02] <kravlin> scguy318: unless you run something between config and make that i don't know of.
[06:02] <amidaniel> IdleOne: That is, namely, the problem -- I cannot sudo edit the file
[06:02] <Jordan_U> charlie5, Did you check the integrity of the CD?
[06:03] <joshin247> i've done that many times, this has been a problem for a while
[06:03] <IdleOne> scguy318: amidaniel ahh I see you in essence killed root :)
[06:03] <amidaniel> IdleOne: Indeed :)
[06:03] <IdleOne> haha
[06:03] <Jordan_U> amidaniel, What is the problem?
[06:03] <scguy318> kravlin: probably not, unless the README has very special instructions, and I doubt it
[06:03] <IdleOne> that is funny
[06:03] <amidaniel> And I've tried su'ing to oot, but it's not liking my former root password
[06:03] <amidaniel> IdleOne: No, no, not really :)
[06:03] <scguy318> Jordan_U: he chopped off the r in root in /etc/passwd
[06:03] <amidaniel> Jordan_U: I did something really stupid -- renamed "root" by accident :)
[06:03] <IdleOne> amidaniel: sorry I am not sure how to fix something like that
[06:03] <endlessurf> event # and usb help anyone?
[06:03] <heguru> amidaniel: Use LiveCD to boot and change, or try Single user mode (i don't know if that will work)
[06:03] <Jordan_U> amidaniel, Boot into recovery mode
[06:03] <amidaniel> heguru: Don't have physical access to the machine
[06:03] <scguy318> heguru: can't, the server is remote and inaccessible
[06:04] <charlie5> Jordan_U: err, no ... good point, i'll check that, thanks
[06:04] <kravlin> scguy318: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39504/
[06:04] <Jordan_U> amidaniel, np :)
[06:04] <Square_root> I made myself a gmail acc to registrate on many upload sites / forums. After about 30 site registrations I started receiving a spam that is encoded in a non supported language, I can't read it. I noticed that I'm receiving like 5 or 10 copies of it everyday, all from different IPs. Most of those IPs return nothing when I whois. The fake adress says it's from japan. Any suggestions?
[06:04] <gogeta> charlie5 sqishfs errors are the cds file sysem
[06:04] <amidaniel> Any other ideas? :)
[06:04] <gogeta> charlie5 you may have a bad iso
[06:04] <scguy318> kravlin: strange, you might be missing your GL headers
[06:04] <hgjjjf> how do i get yahoo games to work i have all java installed
[06:05] <amidaniel> In particular, if anyone could know how to figure out what the new password for "oot" is knowing the former password for "root"
[06:05] <usr13> hgjjjf: what browser are you using?
[06:05] <charlie5> gogeta: yep, that sounds likely ... i'll check the mdsum, reburn and try again ... cheers
[06:05] <amidaniel> As I'm presuming it's rehashed by username
[06:05] <IdleOne> amidaniel: contact your server admin and have them fix what you broke but that might get you locked out of the server after they figure out what you did, unless you are the server admin then you need to take a drive
[06:05] <gogeta> or bad cd rw
[06:05] <lee__> found it http://fridge.ubuntu.com/
[06:05] <gogeta> they do go bad
[06:05] <scguy318> kravlin: what's the app you're trying to build anyway?
[06:06] <hgjjjf> usr13,  it sayes connecting to servers but it dont connect and am using ff
[06:06] <kravlin> scguy318: is that a dev package as well? I don't know that much about how linux runs unfortunately (its one of those things i hope to learn eventually but have no idea where to start)
[06:06] <amidaniel> IdleOne: I'd rather not, but will if I have to
[06:06] <scguy318> kravlin: yeah lemme look, and what's the app that you're trying to build?
[06:06] <amidaniel> It seems there should be *some way* to do this remotely, though
[06:06] <kravlin> scguy318: Open movie editor. I need something that can edit .avi files and splice them.
[06:06] <IdleOne> amidaniel: the thing is there is no password for root. so no password for oot either
[06:06] <usr13> hgjjjf: Point ff to:   http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml
[06:06] <kravlin> scguy318: so kino is a no-go.
[06:06] <hgjjjf> usr13,  thnks
[06:06] <nomaS> !compiz
[06:06] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:07] <lee__> WOW, i had no idea how popular Ubuntu is getting
[06:07] <gogeta> lee is #1
[06:07] <gogeta> in the distro world
[06:07] <lee__> ?
[06:07] <gogeta> ubuntu
[06:07] <lee__> lol
[06:07] <kravlin> lee___: when did you realize it was?
[06:07] <Innomen> well yea its the only one that ever professed to give a crap about users
[06:07] <scguy318> kravlin: mebbe x11proto-gl-dev?
[06:07] <Innomen> every other distro was aimed at admins
[06:07] <lee__> ok back to getting into su mode lol
[06:07] <scguy318> lee___: sudo -i?
[06:07] <lee__> hu
[06:08] <Bender1337> hi im trying to set up tmobile internet can someone help me with this tutorial http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:URdBz8NZeosJ:erikstambaugh.com/gprshowto.html+gprshowto&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a
[06:08] <lee__> whats a distro?
[06:08] <Innomen> !distro
[06:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about distro - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:08] <gogeta> innomen suse does to but whent abought it the wrong way
[06:08] <Innomen> wow
[06:08] <scguy318> lee___: a distro is simply the Linux kernel + the userspace goodies
[06:08] <lee__> lol
[06:08] <scguy318> lee___: when you say Linux, that strictly means the kernel itself
[06:08] <lee__> oh
[06:08] <Jordan_U> amidaniel, Is there a reason you can't just reboot into single user mode ( "recovery" ) ?
[06:08] <lee__> is realearning
[06:08] <kravlin> scguy318: can't hurt.
[06:08] <scguy318> Jordan_U: because it's a remote server
[06:08] <Innomen> gogeta: oh? i stand corrected
[06:08] <lee__> erg
[06:09] <kravlin> scguy318: I get less of the same errors! Progress!
[06:09] <sharap> I'm having problems on gutsy with user switching using synergy. Upon switching back to the first user my mouse and keyboard no longer will work on the ubuntu machine. Is there a particular script for the X server that gets run at that point, so I can add something to start up the synergy server there?
[06:09] <gogeta> innomen they mad deals with the devel to get m$ libarys so user got more compatbly
[06:09] <lee__> ah ok
[06:09] <IdleOne> lee__: in Linux a Distro is what would be refered to as a Version in windows. sorta like xp me vista but not anywhere near as bad as windows of course because... look at !vista
[06:09] <Jordan_U> amidaniel, So, what happens when you try to use sudo?
[06:09] <scguy318> kravlin: you do have build-essential right? :)
[06:09] <gogeta> of course no linux user will accept that
[06:09] <Guest32704> my squirrealmail says invaild login but the infomation is right and the other roundcube wmail logins work? any ideals
[06:09] <scguy318> IdleOne: not really, more like edition
[06:09] <Innomen> gogeta: gah
[06:09] <amidaniel> Jordan_U: I get the error "no paswd entry for user 'root'"
[06:09] <Innomen> bad move
[06:09] <gogeta> so they got a bad rep
[06:09] <kravlin> scguy318: of course.
[06:09] <lee__> ehgh vista..ms torture
[06:09] <IdleOne> scguy318: yeah
[06:09] <Innomen> of course that landed them in m$ pocket for all time
[06:09] <Innomen> i'm assuming.
[06:09] <NaNO2x> hello, i was wondering if anyone knew how to open mdf's, i've been going through google and the forums, and the programs that it points to aren't working, any sugestions
[06:10] <gogeta> agred
[06:10] <amidaniel> Jordan_U: And I don't know anyway to reboot a server and maintain a live ssh with it :)
[06:10] <Jordan_U> amidaniel, using sudo ( not su )?
[06:10] <threethirty> lee__: distro is short for distrobution, think of it as a flavor, ubuntu is the rocky road of linux, ummmmmm
[06:10] <gogeta> as  said they cared but mad bad choices
[06:10] <scguy318> Jordan_U: his passwd file is fubared, can't work the file remotely ;)
[06:10] <gogeta> made
[06:10] <amidaniel> Jordan_U: Yes
[06:10] <lee__> aaah ok
[06:10] <Innomen> gogeta: no i think "mad bad" sums it up nicely lol
[06:10] <sharap> NaNO2x, as in microsoft data format?
[06:10] <scguy318> Jordan_U:
[06:10] <scguy318> oops
[06:10] <lee__> AH the light comes on lol
[06:10] <joshin247> wow
[06:10] <amidaniel> Jordan_U: And with "sudo -u oot ..." I get "... does not have permission to execute .. as oot"
[06:10] <NaNO2x> its a disc image i believe
[06:10] <gogeta> redhat also wile out of the desktop worldd are probly the biggest code contrubters out there
[06:10] <usr13> scguy318: Well, you have to admit, that even though the name Linux specifically referrs to the kernel, we use the word to describe much more.  We use the word Linux to describe the entire operating system and all the various OpenSource apps.
[06:10] <IdleOne> scguy318: isnt there a backup that is autosaved that he can use instead of the new file?
[06:10] <gib> Can someone point me to a cheap pci wifi card with good native wpa2 support (not via a wrapper over the windows driver).
[06:11] <scguy318> IdleOne: if there is one, he can't become root to replace it with ;)
[06:11] <scguy318> usr13: yep
[06:11] <amidaniel> I do have a /etc/passwd-
[06:11] <heguru> amidaniel: how about sudo -u #0
[06:11] <gogeta> linux is never a 1 an show even thow ubuntu kinda has that rep
[06:11] <heguru> amidaniel: sudo -u 0 ^^
[06:11] <MoNsTeR> can somebody help me with my server? it wont update like as in i put folders in there with filkes in them and they don't show up on the webpage
[06:12] <amidaniel> heguru: No password entry for "0"
[06:12] <kravlin> scguy318: I really have no idea what i'm doing unfortunately. any idea where i can get a better understanding of linux while i'm trying to get this thing to work?
[06:12] <scguy318> !make | kravlin
[06:12] <ubotu> kravlin: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:12] <scguy318> kravlin: that's the make stuff
[06:12] <Jordan_U> amidaniel, Start thinking of any other setuid programs that you would be able to possibly use ( though I can't think of any that wouldn't be a security risk, and therefore there probably are not if your server is secure )
[06:12] <scguy318> kravlin: theres tons of other stuff for other aspects
[06:12] <Innomen> everyone laugh at the problems i've undoubtedly made fopr myself, here's what i've done: install ubuntu, and and then used gnome to carve out a partition where i am now installing xp
[06:12] <scguy318> kravlin: what's the latest error now?
[06:12] <kravlin> scguy318: same thing.
[06:12] <scguy318> Innomen: i'm not
[06:12] <jawsh569> gib: there really isn't ONE card out there
[06:12] <kravlin> but a couple less errors.
[06:12] <amidaniel> Jordan_U: Well, I've got quite a few "oot" sessions running, but I've no clue how to "hack" into any of them
[06:12] <scguy318> Innomen: though I hate how XP trashes GRUB
[06:13] <jawsh569> start by lookin at hardware support for your distro of choice
[06:13] <Innomen> scguy318: think it'll work?
[06:13] <jawsh569> you should find a list of "known to work cards"
[06:13] <amidaniel> The only thing that I could think of would me an nmap install I have running as root -- but that's behind a sudo
[06:13] <gogeta> scguy318 you can easly fix tha with the grub live cd
[06:13] <lee__> ok do i log into the terminal or konsole for sudo -i
[06:13] <scguy318> gogeta: yep
[06:13] <lee__> and then how do i execute my ati driver set up
[06:13] <heguru> amidaniel: sudo -u \#0 -i
[06:13] <MoNsTeR> can somebody help me with my server? it wont update like as in i put folders in there with filkes in them and they don't show up on the webpage
[06:13] <scguy318> amidaniel: well, I can't think of anything much, but I guess you learned a lesson today :)
[06:13] <Innomen> like menu.lst edits may fix it?
[06:14] <gogeta> u hate how grub self destructs if you remove linux
[06:14] <gogeta> i
[06:14] <gogeta> hehehe
[06:14] <scguy318> Innomen: no, you'll have to reinstall GRUB via the CD that gogeta mentioned
[06:14] <Jordan_U> amidaniel, What programs are they running?
[06:14] <Innomen> ahh
[06:14] <scguy318> Innomen: rewrite the fine MBR, and then zomg tweak menu.lst
[06:14] <Innomen> no problems
[06:14] <scguy318> Innomen: though it's not seriously difficult
[06:14] <Innomen> i'm kinda good at that by now
[06:14] <amidaniel> heguru: Gahh .. I had my hopes, but got "user dccannon is not allowed to execute ... as oot"
[06:14] <scguy318> Innomen: I'm just seriously lazy :)
[06:14] <amidaniel> heguru: When using -u \#0
[06:14] <MoNsTeR> can somebody help me with my server? it wont update like as in i put folders in there with filkes in them and they don't show up on the webpage
[06:15] <Innomen> thats a good trait to have, mother on invention.
[06:15] <Innomen> of*
[06:15] <scguy318> Innomen: hehe :P
[06:15] <kravlin> scguy318: thanks for the link btw. I need to read from the wiki a lot more methinks. Expand my knowledge and all that.
[06:15] <Innomen> scguy318:  totally serious, but thats off topic :)
[06:15] <amidaniel> Jordan_U: Got an ssh, xinetd, vsftpd, mysqld_safe, spamd, java, httpd, saslauthd, crond
[06:15] <gogeta> monster like you knoe
[06:15] <amidaniel> Any of those maybe?
[06:15] <scguy318> Innomen: lol :)
[06:15] <gogeta> restart the webserver
[06:15] <gogeta> LOL
[06:15] <Innomen> (or i'm just 2 lazy to explain, you'll never know)
[06:15] <lee__> eh got to take dog fer a walk lol..ttyl
[06:16] <Jordan_U> amidaniel, And what sort of possible interaction if any do you have with any of those?
[06:16] <MoNsTeR> gogeta, yeah how and thanks for helping you (i cant even say it)
[06:16] <usr13> MoNsTeR: Yes, each time you change configuration or add a new directory to choose from, you must restart apache.
[06:16] <AncientRelic> I've got a Dell Latitude D600 with a Realtek wireless card inside (original doesn't work)
[06:16] <MoNsTeR> how do i restart apache
[06:16] <AncientRelic> I can see it in lspci, but Ubuntu can't configure it
[06:16] <gogeta> cough
[06:16] <Guest32704> lol
[06:16] <amidaniel> Jordan_U: Well, I do still have root access to mysql
[06:16] <scguy318> AncientRelic: does it show up in iwconfig?
[06:16] <amidaniel> And I can get to httpd through a browser -- that's about it :)
[06:17] <AncientRelic> scguy318: Nope no network devices detected
[06:17] <scguy318> amidaniel: i think you have what's known as a jail :P
[06:17] <scguy318> amidaniel: only problem is, everyone is locked out
[06:17] <AncientRelic> scguy318: I have the same card running in a gateway notebook with Feisty and it worked out of the box
[06:17] <kravlin> scguy318: I got it to work....
[06:17] <scguy318> AncientRelic: can you tell us what Realtek chipset specifically
[06:17] <scguy318> kravlin: yay
[06:17] <Bender1337> hi im trying to set up tmobile internet can someone help me with this tutorial http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:URdBz8NZeosJ:erikstambaugh.com/gprshowto.html+gprshowto&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a
[06:17] <Sable> usr13: in iwconfig next to wlan0 it says ESSID "Art's network" when trying to connect to the router, but when it tops trying to connect it says"off/any" next to the essid
[06:17] <amidaniel> scguy318: Indeed :) Aye, the dangers of safe computing :)
[06:17] <Innomen> scguy318: wouldent that be a "fortress" ?
[06:18] <Jordan_U> amidaniel, You already know that you are likely just screwed, but I have not given up because it's a really interesting problem
[06:18] <kravlin> scguy318: I installed freeglut3-dev.
[06:18] <gogeta> sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[06:18] <AncientRelic> scguy318: 8185L
[06:18] <scguy318> Innomen: well, not so much, since there's no one inside, and no one can get in :)
[06:18] <gogeta> or apache if not apahie2
[06:18] <Innomen> oh lol
[06:18] <amidaniel> Jordan_U: Indeed .. I'm writing out the email to admit my stupidity as we speak :) I would however still like to know if this can be fixed somehow
[06:18] <MoNsTeR> usr13, how do i updates the webserver
[06:18] <Innomen> ok, how about a vault?
[06:18] <amidaniel> All I need to do is write one character to the head of a file to fix it :)
[06:18] <scguy318> kravlin: ah
[06:18] <Elda> Meh...  Anyone know how I would go about enabling sensors on a Toshiba P100 st9752?
[06:18] <gogeta> if its a init servace anyways
[06:19] <usr13> MoNsTeR: http://httpd.apache.org/docs-project/
[06:19] <gogeta> i aruldy gave him the comand
[06:19] <gogeta> LOL
[06:19] <scguy318> Innomen: well, the armored car people still can pack up the dough into their fine truck :P
[06:19] <Jordan_U> amidaniel, You didn't have passwordless ssh ( using a key ) set up by any chance?
[06:19] <usr13> MoNsTeR: Edit the config file
[06:19] <Elda> I'm having overheating troubles when I play any intensive games... not to the point where the laptop shuts itself off but that it gets VERY hot down under :/
[06:19] <Innomen> thats true lol
[06:20] <scguy318> Elda: get one of those stands that let you get air circulation under
[06:20] <Elda> Since the sensors arent working, the fan doesnt speed up
[06:20] <Elda> Have one.
[06:20] <musikgoat> Elda: lol, i get that too, as every laptop owner
[06:20] <Guest32704> http://pastebin.ca/725162 ? is my maillog and it dont say anything about why sqirrulmail is acting nuts? roundcube works, but i want to run sqmail? any ideals
[06:20] <musikgoat> oh
[06:20] <amidaniel> Jordan_U: Not for my root account O.o
[06:20] <amidaniel> And my root has nossh anyhow
[06:20] <Innomen> elda: that sounds a wee bit dangerous, explody battery :P
[06:20] <amidaniel> Or ftp (tried that too :D)
[06:20] <Elda> Thing is that this has a go 7900 gtx in it. So it NEEDS the fan
[06:20] <usr13> MoNsTeR: vim /etc/apache/httpd.conf
[06:20] <kravlin> scguy318: now if i could just figure out how to run it i would be good.
[06:20] <Bender1337> hi im trying to set up tmobile internet can someone help me with this tutorial http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:URdBz8NZeosJ:erikstambaugh.com/gprshowto.html+gprshowto&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a
[06:20] <gogeta> explody battery where
[06:20] <Elda> But the sensor isnt detecting anything, so it cant speed up the fan to cool it off :(
[06:21] <scguy318> AncientRelic: anything in system logs?
[06:21] <scguy318> Elda: have you done the fine sudo sensors-detect?
[06:21] <Elda> yes
[06:21] <Innomen> gogeta: no where, just seems like voerheating would increase the risk of that sort of thing
[06:21] <Elda> I installed that
[06:21] <Jordan_U> amidaniel, I assume you have rebooted since you changed the passwd file?
[06:21] <Elda> But I dont know if its working or not
[06:21] <gogeta> i wanna explody battery
[06:21] <usr13> MoNsTeR: Apache is a very powerful webserver with many many options.  Read the manual before continuing on.
[06:21] <gogeta> waa
[06:21] <Elda> acpi brings up only my batter status still
[06:21] <scguy318> kravlin: have you done sudo make install?
[06:21] <amidaniel> Jordan_U: No
[06:21] <kevinO> are there any programs that allow you to theme gnome?
[06:22] <Jordan_U> kevinO, Of course
[06:22] <gogeta> gnome itsself can be
[06:22] <gogeta> LOL
[06:22] <kevinO> i know....
[06:22] <Nauraushaun> I have two hard drives. One with Ubuntu, the slave drive, and the master drive with Windows. I used to be able to select which OS to run when I booted up my computer, but today I reinstalled Windows, and I can't access Ubuntu at all. It's like I've only got one hard drive.
[06:22] <amidaniel> Jordan_U: reboot is in /sbin :)
[06:22] <Jordan_U> kevinO, A good one for downloading themes is gnome-art
[06:22] <MoNsTeR> usr13, you dont get it i come here for help i dont have a manual i dont need one (reason being cause i come here!!!) dont tell me to rtfm ok
[06:22] <scguy318> Nauraushaun: did Windows obliterate GRUB? use the Super GRUB CD
[06:22] <kravlin> scguy: yeah. it returned all sorts of not needing to be run things. I'll pastebin them (should bookmark that site)
[06:22] <\\ZimmY> will someone tell mw if they see anyp problems ---> http://pastebin.ca/725162
thats couse windows love to eat grub for lunch
[06:22] <Sable> usr13: in iwconfig next to wlan0 it says ESSID "Art's network" when trying to connect to the router, but when it tops trying to connect it says"off/any" next to the essid
[06:23] <kevinO> but a gui app that allows you to just choose colors and choose images, then puts it all in a nice little package for users to install
[06:23] <Nauraushaun> ....GRUB?
 use grub live cd to restore it
[06:23] <Jordan_U> kevinO, That let's you preview and install themes from art.gnome.org
[06:23] <Nauraushaun> I don't have that.
[06:23] <gogeta> LOL
[06:23] <gogeta> LOL
 yea window eat it
[06:23] <kevinO> i dont want a theme, i want to make them
[06:23] <MoNsTeR> gogeta, yeah i didnt see because you didnt highlight my name
[06:23] <Jordan_U> !grub | Nauraushaun
[06:23] <ubotu> Nauraushaun: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:23] <usr13> MoNsTeR:  join #apache
[06:23] <scguy318> Nauraushaun: GRUB is the fine Linux boot-loader that Ubuntu installs, Windows takes the liberty of wiping that away in favor of NTLDR
[06:23] <kevinO> but i dont want to manually edit a gtkrc file everytime i want a different one
[06:24] <Jordan_U> kevinO, Ahh, sorry, I misunderstood
[06:24] <Nauraushaun> Wow. I hate Windows :P
[06:24] <gogeta> hehe
[06:24] <gogeta> we wouldent be hear if we all didnt
[06:24] <usr13> Sable: Could you reprhase that?
[06:24] <Nauraushaun> That guide tells me to enter commands. Where?
[06:24] <scguy318> Nauraushaun: so yeah that second link in ubotu's message should be helpful
[06:24] <scguy318> Nauraushaun: the linked guide?
[06:24] <scguy318> Nauraushaun: probably Terminal I guess?
[06:24] <Nauraushaun> Oh, I tried the first one. Hold on.
[06:25] <Jordan_U> Nauraushaun, An Ubuntu ( or any other Linux ) LiveCD
[06:25] <Nauraushaun> I can't get back to Ubuntu, so no terminal.
[06:25] <scguy318> Nauraushaun: oh I'm blind, I meant the gudie on when u lose GRUB
[06:25] <Nauraushaun> I have that.
[06:25] <Sable> usr13: I figured out the problem
[06:25] <kravlin> scguy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39506/
[06:25] <alcaponage> Will Gutsy Gibbon have compiz fusion automatically on there?
[06:25] <Elda> How can I tell if the sensors are doing anything after I do sensors-detect?
[06:25] <Sable> usr13: when I updated ubuntu, it updated the kernel.  I booted up a previous kernel and it works
[06:25] <D4N`> secret
[06:25] <chotchki> quick question guys, is there a way to reinstall every package? my libraries seem to have gotten corrupted (and its becoming a huge pain to track tehem all down)
[06:25] <gogeta> alcaponage yes
[06:26] <gogeta> i dont like it but it will
[06:26] <Elda> nm
[06:26] <alcaponage> How do I remove ubuntu to reinstall?
[06:26] <Sable> Is there a way to "uninstall" updates
[06:26] <gogeta> its gonna couse alot more issues then just having it off y defult
[06:26] <Elda> chibi@Renmetherlence:~$ sensors
[06:26] <Elda> No sensors found! - Make sure you loaded all the kernel drivers you need. - Try sensors-detect to find out which these are.
[06:26] <Elda> 
[06:26] <usr13> Sable: What is the essid of the router?    (You need to set the essid of the client device to match.)
[06:26] <alcaponage> Do I go on Vista and clear the drive?
[06:26] <Sable> usr13: essid is Art's Network
[06:26] <gogeta> alcaponage no
[06:26] <MoNsTeR> the server isnt showing the folder still
[06:27] <alcaponage> How do I remove ubuntu and reinstall?
[06:27] <Elda> So the question now is, what do I do if sensors-detect does not find my sensors?
[06:27] <Nauraushaun> Just a little confused. Does this (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto) tell me that if I press Escape during startup, I'll get my GRUB back?
[06:27] <scguy318> Elda: sudo sensors-detect
[06:27] <usr13> Sable: Ok, so is it working?
[06:27] <kravlin> scguy: i thought that would put a link in the toolbar somewhere. But it looks like i may have to create my own link.
[06:27] <Jordan_U> alcaponage, Re-install Ubuntu or re-install Windows?
[06:27] <gogeta> alcaponage use ubuntu install cd on the partation setup go to maul slect the linux one and set it to format
[06:27] <alcaponage> I have dual boot
[06:27] <Sabl1> it is now that I booted into the prvious kernel
[06:27] <alcaponage> I want to reinstall ubuntu
[06:27] <gogeta> alcaponage wala resinatll
[06:27] <MoNsTeR> http://72.193.8.164:8000/ that is my server tell me if you see the pics folder?
[06:27] <alcaponage> ?
[06:27] <Jordan_U> Nauraushaun, No, that only gives you a menu if you have grub installed, which you do not
[06:27] <Sabl1> alcaponage, you can just install ubuntu over what you ahve, jsut make sure to format the partition
[06:27] <alcaponage> I want to remove feisty and install gutsy
[06:28] <Nauraushaun> Need to install it then..
[06:28] <alcaponage> When it comes out
[06:28] <gogeta> i just told you
[06:28] <Jordan_U> Nauraushaun, Follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[06:28] <alcaponage> Do I just boot from CD and replace it?
[06:28] <IdleOne> !upgrade | alcaponage
[06:28] <gogeta> slap
[06:28] <Sable> So, is there a way to uninstall the updates that the update manager made
[06:28] <ubotu> alcaponage: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[06:28] <Jordan_U> alcaponage, Yes
[06:28] <alcaponage> I want to remove ubuntu and reinstall a fresh one
[06:28] <Nauraushaun> That link sounds about right Jordan_U :)
[06:28] <ghetto> has anyone used puppylinux?
[06:28] <alcaponage> Because my feisty is kind of messed up
[06:28] <Sable> I have ghetto
[06:28] <hgjjjf> how do i turn the firewall off in feisty
[06:29] <usr13> alcaponage: You are better off to just fix it.
[06:29] <ghetto> do you know what I need to install xp from an iso?
[06:29] <Elda> scguy318: I did the lib sensors thing AGAIN and it still finds no sensors.
[06:29] <scguy318> Sable: force version in Synaptic?
[06:29] <ghetto> won't have the net whilst I'm doing it
[06:29] <alcaponage> usr13: How?
[06:29] <scguy318> Elda: sucks :(
[06:29] <MoNsTeR> oh i need to chmod to make it so you guys can see that folder lol i just dont know the command ill look it up on google tho
[06:29] <Jordan_U> chotchki, Sort of, what I would do is first backup your current package list:
[06:29] <scguy318> ghetto: like in a VM?
[06:29] <Jordan_U> !clone | chotchki
[06:29] <ubotu> chotchki: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[06:29] <usr13> hgjjjf: Depends on what firewall you are using.  Is it firestarter?
[06:29] <alcaponage> usr13: I want to remove 2.6.20.16-generic but it won't let me
[06:29] <ghetto> install to hd
[06:29] <ghetto> through vm
[06:29] <scguy318> usr13: well, Firestarter is just frontend, iptables is the magic :P
[06:30] <scguy318> ghetto: which VM? you probably would just edit the CD-ROM configuration to point to the ISO
[06:30] <usr13> alcaponage: What is broken?  What NEEDS fixing?
[06:30] <hgjjjf> usr13, no idea doesnt it come with it on like windows?
[06:30] <Sable> Actually, it seems all teh updates stayed, and I can just boot to the previous kernel.  How do I remove a kernel?
[06:30] <amidaniel> Haha!! Kickass --- I'm back in as teh root :D:D
[06:30] <alcaponage> usr13: My 2.6.20.16generic won't start
[06:30] <Jordan_U> amidaniel, How?
[06:30] <alcaponage> After I updated from 2.6.20.15, my .16 gets a nvidia error
[06:30] <usr13>  scguy318 Iptables is NOT a firewall.
[06:30] <ghetto> scguy318: Could you elaborate?
[06:31] <Nauraushaun> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows >> Ctrl+F "If you do not know your boot partition"
[06:31] <Nauraushaun> Got lost at that point...
[06:31] <amidaniel> Jordan_U: Has plesk installed on here -- it was apparently still running under a root session. Went in there and changed the password for "oot" :))
[06:31] <kravlin> scguy: i thought that would put a link in the toolbar somewhere. But it looks like i may have to create my own link.
[06:31] <amidaniel> Or rather, under an "oot" session
[06:31] <scguy318> usr13: sure it is, it lets me control what happens to the packets that flow into the interfaces
[06:31] <ghetto> don't have the means to burn anything to cd atm so it will have to be from hd
[06:31] <scguy318> ghetto: what VM are you using
[06:31] <kravlin> scguy318: i thought that would put a link in the toolbar somewhere. But it looks like i may have to create my own link.
[06:32] <ghetto> none atm, have only just download puppy
[06:32] <scguy318> alcaponage: reinstall nvidia-glx?
[06:32] <usr13>  hgjjjf  By default, no I don't think 7.04 installs firestarter.
[06:32] <kravlin> scguy318: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39506/
[06:32] <ghetto> downloading vmware now though
[06:32] <scguy318> kravlin: some of these packages don't provide .desktop files :(
[06:32] <Jordan_U> alcaponage, That is because you did not use the drivers from the repositories
[06:32] <ghetto> vmware player that is
[06:32] <guitarinc1> will 7.10 have support for all of nvidia's 8xxx series?
[06:32] <kravlin> scguy318: so then where does it install so i can make my own link?
[06:32] <scguy318> kravlin: oh, that just means that sudo make install has already performed the install
[06:32] <usr13> alcaponage: Your system will no longer boot up?
[06:32] <Jordan_U> alcaponage, sudo apt-get remove --reinstall nvidia-glx
[06:32] <scguy318> kravlin: probably /usr/bin
[06:33] <alcaponage> usr13: My "2.6.20.16-generic" won't boot
[06:33] <Jordan_U> guitarinc1, #ubuntu+1
[06:33] <bullgard4> Synaptic writes: "Each interactive command optionally be preceded by a (positive or negative) number, whose interpretation will depend on the particular keystroke.
[06:33] <bullgard4> g 	Moves to the page with the given number
[06:33] <alcaponage> usr13: But my "2.6.20.15-generic" will
[06:33] <bullgard4> s 	Changes the shrink factor to the given number. If no number is given, the smallest factor that makes the entire page fit in the window will be used.
[06:33] <bullgard4> c 	Moves the page so that the point currently beneath the cursor is moved to the middle of the window.
[06:33] <clusty> not hoping really for a solution but here it goes: i am having lots of trouble gettting my laptop to suspend. the graphics card does not wake up. any ideas?
[06:33] <usr13>  hgjjjf  sudo apt-get install firestarter
[06:33] <usr13> if you want to install firewall
[06:33] <Jordan_U> alcaponage, sudo apt-get remove --reinstall nvidia-glx
[06:34] <russe11> I want to automatically login to an SSH server for tunneling when a user logs in. What's the best way?
[06:34] <usr13>  alcaponage Then your system IS booting to the 2.6.20 kernel?
[06:34] <alcaponage> Jordan_U: will that fix my "2.6.20.16" one? because i can't boot that one
[06:34] <hgjjjf> when i try connect to  yahoo games i get unable to connect cause of one of 4 reasons 1 ur behind a firewall 2 u are not connected to the net 3 the game server is down well my cousins on it so its not down and 4 u hav a stale page in ur cache not true i cleaned it out 10 times so any one know how to fix this?
[06:34] <Jordan_U> alcaponage, Yes
[06:35] <alcaponage> usr13: I have two of them after I did sudo aptget update
[06:35] <Jordan_U> russe11, First set up ssh login via keys ( passwordless )
[06:35] <usr13> hgjjjf: Did you verify that the Java plugin is working properly?
[06:35] <alcaponage> urs13: the new one is .16, the old one is .15
[06:35] <scguy318> usr13: i think he needs to reinstall nvidia-glx
[06:35] <alcaponage> usr: the .16 won't boot
[06:35] <hgjjjf> usr13,  how?
[06:35] <bullgard4> Synaptic writes: "dvilx is a screen-previewer for .dvi-files compiled by TeX." What is a '.dvi file'?
[06:35] <MoNsTeR> can somebody help me with chmod
[06:36] <usr13> hgjjjf: http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml
[06:36] <Jordan_U> !anyone | MoNsTeR
[06:36] <ubotu> MoNsTeR: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:36] <Jordan_U> !terminal | MoNsTeR
[06:36] <ubotu> MoNsTeR: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[06:36] <Nauraushaun> If someone could just give me very simple directions from the "Quick Start" step of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, I've be very appreciative. It loases me.
[06:36] <MoNsTeR> Jordan_U, CAN YOU HELP ME WITH CHMOD!!! THANKS
[06:36] <Nauraushaun> Loses*
[06:36] <Jordan_U> !permissions | MoNsTeR
[06:36] <ubotu> MoNsTeR: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[06:37] <tomato> hi all
[06:37] <kravlin> scguy318:  gotta love pipes.
[06:37] <Jordan_U> MoNsTeR, Depends on what you need to do, you still havn't asked an actual question
[06:37] <hgjjjf> usr13,  its working
[06:37] <scguy318> kravlin: mm :)
[06:37] <Sable>  How do I remove2.6.20.16-generic? It broke my internets
[06:37] <usr13> hgjjjf: Then you should be able to play your yahoo games.
[06:37] <tomato> can anyone tell on tools that i used for 2 way syncing?
[06:37] <gnani> about:config
[06:38] <scguy318> Sable: use Synaptic
[06:38] <hgjjjf> usr13, i try i get that whn i try
[06:38] <Jordan_U> tomato, syncing of?
[06:38] <scguy318> Sable: sudo apt-get remove linux-image-2.6.20.16-generic?
[06:38] <usr13> hgjjjf: Try again.  Tell me if it works or not.  If not, try to describe the difficulty.
[06:38] <MoNsTeR> Jordan_U, i need to make it so people can see the folder and the files in it so people can downlaod stuff from it and thats about it
[06:38] <Sable> ok thanks
[06:38] <gnani> hai
[06:38] <tomato> Jordan_U, i mean files
[06:38] <Jordan_U> tomato, rsync
[06:39] <scguy318> usr13: so could you explain how iptables is not a firewall? all the stuff I'm looking at seems to say that
[06:39] <Nauraushaun> What's the difference between overwriting and preserving the Windows bootloader?
[06:39] <Jordan_U> MoNsTeR, you want anybody to be able to view it? Or just members of a certain group / a certain user ?
[06:39] <CyberMad> i tried share my printer Epson LX-300+ over samba (driver: Epson 9 pin), but when i try connect to it from windows xp, it ask for correct driver, so i choose Epson LX-300+ driver, but then when i tried print a page.. it return A StartDocPrinter call was not issued. ??
[06:40] <MoNsTeR> Jordan_U, would it be like chmod a+rwx <foldername>
[06:40] <tomato> ex. i have master site then a slave site if i update the slvae site does the master site automatically updates also?
[06:40] <CyberMad> what is that mean?
[06:40] <hgjjjf> usr13,  same messages
[06:40] <MoNsTeR> Jordan_U, anybody to view it
[06:40] <stinkyfoot> can someone help me out? my arrow keys don't work in xubuntu
[06:40] <bruenig> MoNsTeR, the a is redundant
[06:40] <gnani> Hey can anybody tell something about boot loader?    I am intrested in learning such good stuffs....
[06:40] <MoNsTeR> bruenig, i was just asking if that would be correct other wise tell me what i should put
[06:41] <jtkiefer> I have a bit of an  issue, using Synaptic keeps giving me 403 errors when trying to A) connect to repositories to get package listings, and B) get packages from said repositories, however using a web browser I can use the link to get the package to install with the package tool
[06:41] <jtkiefer> any advice?
[06:41] <Sable> well, i uninstall .16-generic, im gonan reboot so wish me luck
[06:41] <jtkiefer> running 6.06 btw
[06:41] <bruenig> MoNsTeR, +rwx and a+rwx are the same thing
[06:41] <astro76> MoNsTeR, well if you want everyone to read, you don't need write and execute, so chmod -R +r <directory>
[06:41] <gnani> any technical details
[06:41] <tomato> Jordan_U, u heard bout unison?
[06:41] <Jordan_U> tomato, no
[06:41] <MoNsTeR> thanks astro76 and bruenig
[06:41] <ines> jakarta
[06:42] <Hirvinen> scguy318: Iptables is a userland tool for the Netfilter packet filter in the Linux kernel, one of its capabilities being acting as a firewall.
[06:42] <hgjjjf> usr13, same as before
[06:42] <Nauraushaun> What's the difference between overwriting and preserving the Windows bootloader?
[06:42] <MoNsTeR> astro76, so people will be able to see this folder on my webserver?
[06:42] <scguy318> Hirvinen: ah, that is true :)
[06:42] <bullgard4> Synaptic writes: "dvilx is a screen-previewer for .dvi-files compiled by TeX." What is a '.dvi file'?
[06:42] <stinkyfoot> can someone help me out? my arrow keys don't work in xubuntu
[06:42] <endlessurf> hey does anyone know how to set a mouse to /dev/input/event1 everytime i restart?
[06:42] <usr13> scguy318: Well, it's like this;  You can build firewall rules with iptables.  In fact, it is almost exclusivly through the use of iptables that software firewalls are built.
[06:42] <scguy318> usr13: true
[06:43] <Elda> how can I find out what kernel Im using?
[06:43] <stdin> Elda: uname -r
[06:43] <Jordan_U> Elda, uname -r
[06:43] <usr13> scguy318: The term firewall can be used to describe a software firewall or a hardware firewall and there is a difference with a distinction.
[06:43] <scguy318> usr13: I'm aware
[06:44] <Nauraushaun> What's the difference between overwriting and preserving the Windows bootloader?
[06:45] <ghetto> Is it possible to install xp onto a hd (permanently) through vmware?
[06:45] <Sable> Yay it worked
[06:45] <hgjjjf> usr13, any more ideas
[06:45] <Sable> now, how do I shut down x-server so that I can install nvidia drivers
[06:45] <Sable> i know the comamnd is sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:45] <stdin> Sable: don't, you should install from the ubuntu packages/restricted manager
[06:45] <Sable> oh
[06:46] <stdin> !nvidia
[06:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:46] <disinterested> sable ctlr+alt+backspace
[06:46] <usr13> scguy318: Iptable rules implements a set of hooks inside the Linux kernel that allows kernel modules to register callback functions with the network stack and allows us to re-direct and network packets.
[06:46] <Jordan_U> Sable, Remove the drivers from nvidia.com and use restricted manager
[06:46] <george_> It is also a term which separates your engine compartment from your interior so you can enjoy the soothing music of Brittney Spears.
[06:46] <CyberMad> i tried share my printer Epson LX-300+ over samba (driver: Epson 9 pin), but when i try connect to it from windows xp, it ask for correct driver, so i choose Epson LX-300+ driver, but then when i tried print a page.. it return A StartDocPrinter call was not issued. ??
[06:46] <usr13> Not only can you re-direct the packets, iptables can also change the header information.
[06:47] <Sable> I did ctrl+alt+backspace and it just reloaded x server
[06:47] <Sable> !nvidia
[06:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:47] <ghetto> Is it possible to install xp through linux?
[06:47] <astro76> Sable, yeah that restarts, you need to stop gdm as  you mentioned, and do that in a console (ctrl+alt+F1 through F6)
[06:47] <Jordan_U> ghetto, Ask in #vmware
[06:47] <scguy318> usr13: gotcha
[06:47] <ghetto> jordan_u: thanks
[06:48] <usr13> scguy318: Firestarter is an example of a firewall application, a software firewall application, and it is a GUI application that will write iptables rules, load those rules into the running kernel for you, and also wites them to a script so that they are loaded each time you start your computer.
[06:48] <kravlin> scguy318: Thanks for all the help! Its working now. it was in /usr/local/bin instead but it works!
[06:48] <MoNsTeR> can somebody help me with my server? it wont update like as in i put folders in there with filkes in them and they don't show up on the webpage
[06:49] <Nauraushaun> Could someone please explain the difference between overwriting and preserving the Windows bootloader?
[06:49] <coreymanshack> hi
[06:49] <scguy318> kravlin: cool
[06:49] <scguy318> usr13: got it, thanks for the info
[06:50] <nickrud> Nauraushaun: the end result: if you overwrite, you can choose to boot either windows or linux from the hard drive; if you don't, you need a floppy/usb/cd to boot ubuntu, windows boots normally
[06:50] <alexbobp> How do I figure out which package has a given file?
[06:50] <Nauraushaun> Thanks Nickrud.
[06:50] <scguy318> alexbobp: in Synaptic, look at the package's properties
[06:50] <scguy318> alexbobp: I think there's a listing of what files the package installs
[06:50] <nickrud> alexbobp: dpkg -S /path/to/file , or Synaptic, or package.ubuntu.com if it's not installed
[06:51] <bruenig> !info apt-file
[06:51] <ubotu> apt-file: APT package searching utility -- command-line interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.8.2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 12 kB, installed size 96 kB
[06:51] <brokentire> how do I get sound on my hp dv9548us notebook
[06:51] <coreymanshack> nickrud, could I effeciently resize the windows partition to make room for ubuntu on a hard disk?
[06:51] <usr13> scguy318: One more detail.  You can build a custom hardware firewall on your own OR, you can download a Firewall distribution like Ipcop, monowall, smothwall,   etc.
[06:51] <endlessurf> brokentire double click on the speaker in the upper right hand corner of your screen
[06:51] <nickrud> coreymanshack: that's supported by the live cd; I'm not sure about the alternate
[06:52] <brokentire> ok
[06:52] <Sable> thanks.  I got the drivers installing through the restricted drivers tool.  Is that the current driver that it installs?
[06:52] <Sable> thanks.  I got the drivers installing through the restricted drivers tool.  Is that the current driver that it installs?
[06:52] <endlessurf> go to edit = > preference
[06:52] <Sable> thanks.  I got the drivers installing through the restricted drivers tool.  Is that the current driver that it installs?
[06:52] <brokentire> master volume near top and pcm at top
[06:52] <usr13> scguy318: The above are examples of "stand alone"  "hardware" "NAT" firewalls.
[06:52] <brokentire> all four checked
[06:52] <Sable> and /list #ubuntu
[06:52] <coreymanshack> nickrud so the livecd will allow me to resize the partition then install ubuntu on the freed up space?
[06:52] <Nauraushaun> Could someone please guide me through this, I need to do it, but it's gotten me so lost... (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-bf3232f10ddf1b078de064622ccbb25225cdb3c0)
[06:52] <Sable> oops
[06:52] <what_if> how do I change the prompt that displays before login ??
[06:53] <endlessurf> you want to make sure master, pcm, and pcm-2 are checked
[06:53] <endlessurf> and turned up
[06:53] <nickrud> coreymanshack: yes. (although I had bad experiences, it seems I'm in a small minority)
[06:53] <what_if> Currently says Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS $hostname $tty
[06:53] <coreymanshack> nickrud i did to at one time.
[06:54] <coreymanshack> nickrud you know anything about audio not working right in ubuntu? *seems to be a common question around here*
[06:54] <endlessurf> brokentire did it work?
[06:54] <nickrud> coreymanshack: I run from audio, other than braindead network problems, and nvidia
[06:54] <musikgoat> coreymanshack: i know about that a bit, as i had a similar issue with intel hd audio
[06:54] <Sable> My other problem I have is that any of the updates (package manager, restricted driver manager, and update manager) all disconnect me from the network, but the network manager says im still connected.  I have to unplug and plug back in the USB NIC to get it working again.  It works fine all other times
[06:55] <alexbobp> How do I see the dependancies for a package?
[06:55] <coreymanshack> musikgoat mine is also intel audio
[06:55] <charlie55> err, what writing mode should i use to burn the install iso
[06:55] <vulcanius> hrm... gnome-terminal doesn't want to start
[06:55] <coreymanshack> musikgoat 6.1 surround.
[06:55] <usr13> alexbobp: apt-cache
[06:55] <musikgoat> coreymanshack: can you hear faint sound at highest settings?
[06:55] <nickrud> alexbobp: apt-cache depends <package>    apt-cache is a very useful tool, man apt-cache will give you the details.
[06:55] <george_> i love updates
[06:55] <coreymanshack> musikgoat I'm getting front channel, but my center/sub and rear are treated as inputs.
[06:55] <usr13> alexbobp: apt-cache depends <app-name-here>
[06:56] <WGGMk> so, i have some questions regarding server's.. who wants to answer them lol
[06:56] <usr13> WGGMk: Asl your question.
[06:57] <WGGMk> usr13: my company wants me to research, deploy, and administer (or at least help) a linux based proxy server
[06:57] <george_> what services is the server going to serve?
[06:57] <coreymanshack> musikgoat see this post for lspci http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=560125
[06:57] <alexbobp> pthanks
[06:57] <usr13> WGGMk: See:  ipcop.org or
[06:58] <WGGMk> usr13: i have no experience with Proxy Server's in general.. the most ive ever setup would be small FTP servers
[06:58] <Nauraushaun> I need someone to walk me through this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-bf3232f10ddf1b078de064622ccbb25225cdb3c0 :(
[06:58] <usr13> WGGMk: squid works just fine and is easy to implement via IPCop or Shorewall or any of the other popular Linux firewall servers.
[06:59] <Tyler2> Generally how much partition space is needed for a comfortable Ubuntu environment?
[06:59] <WGGMk> usr13: can it be done with a debian based distro?
[06:59] <scguy318> Tyler2: minimum is like 2.5 GB, maybe like 5?
[06:59] <Tyler2> ah shit
[06:59] <Curs0r> is the aoe module built into the 2.6.22-12 kernel?
[06:59] <Tyler2> way less than I thought
[06:59] <musikgoat> coreymanshack: i'm sorry my prob is not the same...
[06:59] <Tyler2> thanks
[06:59] <scguy318> Tyler2: you can just give the 2.5 to /, and the rest to /home
[06:59] <musikgoat> looking up something
[06:59] <coreymanshack> musikgoat thx.
[06:59] <usr13> WGGMk: see:  http://www.ipcop.org/1.4.0/en/admin/html/
[06:59] <Tyler2> ah
[07:00] <WGGMk> usr13: thank you for the resource
[07:00] <usr13> Yes it can be done with any distro, but it's esier / beter to use a stand alone firewall server.
[07:00] <Mic1> woah thats wierd, i just came in here to ask about partitioning
[07:00] <nickrud> Tyler2: if you plan on installing much software at all, bump that to 5, or even 7 or 8
[07:00] <Tyler2> yea im prolly gonna go with 15
[07:01] <coreymanshack> nickrud or he could make another partition for his apps later?
[07:01] <Tyler2> just wanted to see where that stood
[07:01] <nickrud> Tyler2: I use 12, lots of space :)
[07:01] <usr13> WGGMk: Tale a look at:  http://www.ipcop.org/1.4.0/en/admin/html/services.html#services_webproxy
[07:01] <Tyler2> :)
[07:01] <Tyler2> yea im trying to dual boot
[07:01] <Jtkiefer> I've run all the updates from the update manager, does anyone know what the package name is to actually upgrade to 6.10
[07:01] <Tyler2> Will it convert my NTFS to FAT32?
[07:01] <nickrud> coreymanshack: better to plan ahead, prevent squashing later
[07:02] <Jordan_U> Nauraushaun, Are you booted into the LiveCD?
[07:02] <coreymanshack> nickrud ... good idea.
[07:02] <Jtkiefer> even though I think some of the stuff was working towards that since a lot of that stuff was core updates
[07:02] <Flannel> Jtkiefer: To go from 6.06 to 6.10, you need to pass a -c flag to update-manager to let it konw you want to go from LTS to non-LTS.
[07:02] <Tyler2> or do I have to format for that
[07:02] <coreymanshack> nickrud /me looks at his 230GB free space, and shows pitty upon the waste.
[07:02] <nickrud> format.
[07:02] <Flannel> Jtkiefer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades has details
[07:02] <musikgoat> coreymanshack: i had read about this, don't know if it will help
[07:02] <musikgoat> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=467359
[07:02] <Jtkiefer> ugh, this is gonna be a pain since half the repositories dont' like me at the moment
[07:02] <Nauraushaun> Not right now Jordan_U
[07:02] <coreymanshack> musikgoat /me will take a look
[07:02] <Jtkiefer> Flannel, hopefully that's not the one that just recommends doing the cd install
[07:03] <Mic1> Wait, is someone else here partitioning a 250GB hard drivre
[07:03] <Flannel> Jtkiefer: It gives you a few options.  You can use the Alternate CD if you'd prefer.
[07:03] <Jordan_U> Nauraushaun, You probably just want to do the "quick start"
[07:03] <Nauraushaun> Jordan_U, that confuses me too.
[07:03] <coreymanshack> musikgoat that may do the trick
[07:04] <Jordan_U> Nauraushaun, Which step?
[07:04] <Nauraushaun> Jordan_U, finding my boot partition. I'm not quite sure what a boot partition is.
[07:04] <Tyler2> does it convert NTFS to FAT32 safely or will my data be lost?
[07:04] <Kenotic> I am trying to relay mail through my isp's smtp server, but it requires authentication to send. How can I configure postfix to relay mail with authentication?
[07:05] <Jordan_U> Nauraushaun, It's the partition Ubuntu is installed on
[07:05] <coreymanshack> musikgoat, nvrmind, its not the same problem
[07:05] <Jtkiefer> Flannel, yeah that's the recommended since you can really screw things up doing a web update
[07:05] <nickrud> Tyler2: your question doesn't make a whole lot of sense; linux doesn't use either. You can resize the ntfs to make space for the ubuntu partition
[07:05] <Nauraushaun> Jordan_U, If it's on it's own hard drive, does that mean the drive is the partition?
[07:05] <WGGMk> usr13 did you get my PM? sometimes i get bugged
[07:06] <Flannel> Jtkiefer: eh?  It's the same update, just different package source.  No difference whatsoever.  Except you'll have to re-download all the packages again (to current versions) with using the alt CD
[07:06] <Jordan_U> Nauraushaun, You have windows and Ubuntu installed on the same drive, correct?
[07:06] <Tyler2> Oh I was under the impression that both OS's could read and write to FAT32
[07:06] <Nauraushaun> Jordan_U, No, seperate drives
[07:06] <nickrud> Tyler2: either. ntfs-3g provides write capability to ntfs from linux
[07:06] <Flannel> Tyler2: Both OSes can use FAT
[07:07] <Tyler2> ok
[07:07] <rockets> Flannel, are you calling me fat?
[07:07] <usr13> WGGMk: no, sorry I did not.
[07:07] <Jordan_U> Nauraushaun, Then it is the first partition on whatever drive Ubuntu is installed on
[07:07] <WGGMk> i dont know who would wanna use FAT anymore though
[07:07] <rockets> WGGMk, people who want to share files between windows and linux without using a userspace filesystem
[07:07] <Jordan_U> rockets, Are you 32? ;)
[07:07] <WGGMk> usr13: thats ok, IPCop says that its geared towards home and small/home office.. I need a distro that would support an enterprise size distribution center
[07:08] <rockets> Jordan_U, huh?
[07:08] <Jordan_U> rockets, ... Should use ext3 :)
[07:08] <Danywalker> where is the ftp for dopwnload ubuntu?
[07:08] <Nauraushaun> Jordan_U...I'm not even quite sure what a partition is. What I know is that I wiped my Ubuntu drive, and installed Ubuntu on it. That's all that's on there, and Windows is on another drive. If I need to find the drive my Ubuntu is on, will it give me the sizes? I'm not sure which is hda and hdb anymore, but I know that the Windows drive is 250gb...
[07:08] <rockets> Jordan_U, to share files between linux and windows? No, sorry, but the ext3 driver for windows sucks balls
[07:08] <Jordan_U> rockets, FAT 32, it's a file system
[07:08] <WGGMk> rockets: userspace filesystem? i dont follow.. couldnt they just use NTFS?
[07:08] <rockets> Jordan_U, i know, i was kidding
[07:08] <rockets> WGGMk, yes, and on linux, using ntfs-3g, ntfs is a userspace filesystem
[07:08] <Jordan_U> rockets, So was I :)
[07:08] <rockets> WGGMk, and that produces more load then a regular filesystem
[07:09] <rockets> ntfs-3g uses the FUSE system. go google it :-P
[07:09] <Gutsy_user32> How would you get a new Gnome session in ctl+alt+f2 ?
[07:09] <usr13> WGGMk: The hardware is what will decide that. You just build the machine to handle the amount of traffic you  will encounter.  Use gigabit ethernet cards and a fast processor if it is going to experience heavy traffic.
[07:09] <usr13> WGGMk: http://www.ipcop.org/1.4.0/en/admin/html/services.html#services_webproxy
[07:09] <Jordan_U> rockets, Didn't know that ( don't use windows ), what is bad about it? ( other than the fact that it is really an ext2 driver, so no journaling )
[07:09] <WGGMk> usr13: dont laugh, but some of our systems still use token ring connections *sigh*
[07:09] <dettoaltrimenti> is there any way I can keep gnome-panel from turning on when I start my computer?
[07:10] <rockets> Jordan_U, if theres even the slightest error in your ext2/3 filesystem the partitions fail to mount under windows
[07:10] <rockets> Jordan_U, ntfs-3g is much more reliable
[07:10] <Danywalker> excuseme.. how is the ftp server for download ubuntu?
[07:10] <powerserve> hi there newbie here.. i was just updating when i got an error
[07:10] <rockets> Danywalker, could you rephrase that?
[07:10] <scguy318> Danywalker: do you mean to ask what mirror is an FTP server? doesn't really matter
[07:11] <usr13> WGGMk: See:  http://www.smoothwall.org/
[07:11] <nickrud> dettoaltrimenti: in system -> prefs -> sessions, middle tab, select gnome-panel and mark it as normal, apply, then kill it from a terminal.
[07:11] <Tyler2> okay / = 2.5 Swap = 3 /home = 10 is that a viable partitioning layout?
[07:11] <WGGMk> Jordan_U: I would still take extra precautions if its sensitive data though, because of the obvious, its still reverse eng.
[07:11] <scguy318> Tyler2: how much mem you got
[07:11] <Flannel> Tyler2: How much RAM do oyu have?
[07:11] <rockets> WGGMk, , just an idea here, but it may be time to upgrade your network infrastructure :-P
[07:11] <Tyler2> 2 gigs of RAM and 15 gigs to use
[07:11] <kevinO> how do i open the widget factory?
[07:11] <Mic1> (not enough)
[07:12] <scguy318> Tyler2: don't really need 3 for swap
[07:12] <usr13> WGGMk: Believe me, IPCop or Smoothwall either one will handle just about anything  you wanna chunk at it.  If the hardware will hold up, the software will do the job.
[07:12] <Danywalker> i want test, webserver, pop3 server, then i have to download the server edition, right?
[07:12] <scguy318> Tyler2: maybe 1-2? maybe not at all
[07:12] <WGGMk> rockets: not my call, ive said that many times
[07:12] <Mic1> hey where would I go to submit this gnome app i just wrote
[07:12] <dettoaltrimenti> thanks  nickrud
[07:12] <Danywalker> yes, the mirror, where i find?
[07:12] <rockets> Mic1, define submit?
[07:12] <Tyler2> wow no swap at all?
[07:12] <Mic1> i wrote a gnome radeon overclocker
[07:13] <demon_spork> how do I make the gnome-panel look different?
[07:13] <powerserve> could anyone help me on the error that i am encountering whenever i open update manager and/or add/remove this is the link to the paste bin...
[07:13] <demon_spork> lik themes
[07:13] <Mic1> how would I go about publicising it
[07:13] <powerserve> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39509/
[07:13] <rockets> Mic1, make a website?
[07:13] <dettoaltrimenti> can I assign a button to start a program?
[07:13] <nickrud> Danywalker: you can use the server edition, yes. You can also run all those on the desktop version. Download at releases.ubuntu.com/7.04
[07:13] <rockets> talk about it in #ati
[07:13] <kevinO> how do i use the widgetfactory?
[07:13] <Mic1> just figured i would check with a bunch of linux people, thanks
[07:13] <kevinO> i see its installed in synaptic, but i see no menu entry for it
[07:14] <Lanken> I need to install ubuntu with the bootloader (GRUB) in the same partition as Ubuntu, rather than in the MBR
[07:14] <Jordan_U> powerserve, Are you using LVM?
[07:14] <Danywalker> nickrud, but the server edition is graphic too?
[07:14] <usr13> WGGMk: You can spend the big bucks on a commercially built firewall server with proxy server if you want.  It's strictly up to you.  But I know what you can do with these firewall distros on some decent hardware.  But, don't take my word for it.  Do some research on  your own. ANd also download one of these distros, put a couple of NICS in an old pc and try it out.  See for yourself.  DOn't take my word.
[07:14] <kevinO> mic1 what kind of app is it?
[07:14] <powerserve> hi there jordan..
[07:14] <Lanken> I can install it manually if need be, but I need to make sure that my ubuntu install does not touch the MBR
[07:14] <nickrud> Danywalker: no, not by default. Although you can add it.
[07:14] <Mic1> its just a gnome app
[07:14] <powerserve> i am sorry i am a newbie and still learning about linux ubuntu..
[07:14] <WGGMk> usr13: i appreciate the resources though. thanks
[07:14] <nickrud> powerserve: could you put up the entire error you get
[07:14] <Mic1> it lats you change your radeon processor and ram speed in mhz
[07:15] <powerserve> yes i pasted it in the paste bin this is the link...
[07:15] <kevinO> oh
[07:15] <powerserve> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39509/
[07:15] <usr13> WGGMk: It will take you about a half hour to build an IPCop box.
[07:15] <kravlin> one more question for the night. does anyone know a good audio transcoding software?
[07:15] <nickrud> powerserve: no, that was just one line. There's a lot more that came with that
[07:15] <WGGMk> usr13: oh what joy's
[07:15] <kevinO> i wish someone would make an app for creating new gnome themes
[07:15] <Jordan_U> powerserve, Did you install clvm yourself? Do you know what it is?
[07:15] <usr13> Build an experimental BOX and see what it'll do.
[07:15] <powerserve> honestly sir no..
[07:16] <Mic1> well, im not really too fond of the gnome interface designer
[07:16] <powerserve> i just clicked and collected from the synaptics what i believe would help me
[07:16] <nickrud> powerserve: ok, redo the command that caused that error, and paste all the output. There's gotta be more :)
[07:16] <kravlin> one more question for the night. does anyone know a good audio transcoding software?
[07:16] <Jordan_U> powerserve, If you don't use lvm then clvm won't help you
[07:16] <powerserve> alright sir i would do that
[07:16] <Mic1> mencoder
[07:16] <darkchr0n0s> 40$ P3 1.1Ghz box for ftp server :)
[07:16] <Mic1> kravlin: mencoder
[07:16] <powerserve> do i need to remove clvm then ?
[07:17] <nickrud> powerserve: ah. Synaptic. I was thinking command line
[07:17] <Mic1> that does video mainly though
[07:17] <usr13> WGGMk:  Read the install manual: http://www.ipcop.org/1.4.0/en/install/html/
[07:17] <powerserve> yes sir
[07:17] <sleepynate> darkchr0n0s, my desktop is less spec'd than that :D
[07:17] <WGGMk> usr13: yea im taking a look at it right now
[07:17] <Jordan_U> powerserve, Now, now we just need to figure out how to get past that error so you can remove it :)
[07:17] <usr13> WGGMk: It is very straight forward and clear.
[07:17] <powerserve> yes sir..
[07:17] <nickrud> powerserve: type in a terminal,   sudo apt-get remove clvm , and paste all that error :)
[07:17] <powerserve> thanks a lot!
[07:17] <darkchr0n0s> sleepynate , well are you using it as your main comp ? :P
[07:17] <kravlin> Micl ok... how do i use it? is there a readme or something?
[07:17] <powerserve> alright sir i would do that.. brb
[07:18] <kevinO> mic1 a gui app that allows you to customise thr gtkrc file and all of gnomes changeable images, then packageing it together for users  would be great
[07:18] <Lanken> Is there a step in the Ubuntu installation where I decide where to install the bootloader?
[07:18] <WGGMk> usr13: i think im gonna try out IPCopy and SmoothWall and suggest Debian if they are looking for more then just a special service server
[07:18] <Mic1> kevinO: i could get started, bu im not the best with the gnome API
[07:18] <Flannel> Lanken: yeah, at the very end
[07:18] <darkchr0n0s> WGGMk : indeed there is
[07:18] <Lanken> Flannel: so I can install it to the Ubuntu partition, rather than to the MBR?
[07:18] <darkchr0n0s> err..
[07:18] <Mic1> im just taking it up, i do everything in pure command line C
[07:18] <Jordan_U> nickrud, Yea, but I like to at least let it try to remove itself
[07:19] <nickrud> Jordan_U: true. But this is post install, no install to be done
[07:19] <Flannel> Lanken: Yeah, you can pick any harddrive.  Alternate CD gives you more options too.
[07:19] <darkchr0n0s> anyone using non-qwerty keyboards?
[07:19] <Jordan_U> nickrud, removing the "set -e" is a little better and usually works
[07:19] <usr13> WGGMk: Yes, through together an IPCop or smoothwall server and trun on the proxy server, poke around with it.  (The fastest way to learn to implement one on your own.)
[07:19] <Lanken> Flannel: I don't need to pick the hard drive, I need to pick the *partition*
[07:19] <nickrud> Jordan_U: thanks, a different way than I've known of.
[07:19] <Lanken> Flannel: alternately, if I can install it without a bootloader, I can install one myself.
[07:19] <darkchr0n0s> Flannel : why does alternative CD gives more option.. actually i don't get the idea of alternative CD
[07:20] <Mic1> hey im gonna lave for the night
[07:20] <Flannel> Lanken: not sure if the desktop CD can do partitions, or none at all.  Alternate CD can, I know that.
[07:20] <kevinO> Mic1:  if you think you can do it that would be awesome, there are a ton of people who would use an app like that
[07:20] <Mic1> yeah
[07:20] <Mic1> send me a message on AIM sometime
[07:20] <bassinboylp> what do you think the 4 aspects of troth are in sir gawain and the green knight?
[07:20] <Mic1> AIM: "reachmykos"
[07:20] <kevinO> ok will do
[07:20] <nickrud> darkchr0n0s: alternate give much more control over the install, you can even change the bootloader
[07:20] <Mic1> cool
[07:20] <kevinO> later
[07:20] <usr13> WGGMk: You can build one from scratch on  your own afterwards if you want.  But personally, I don't see the need. The GUI menu's are very nice to use.
[07:20] <Jordan_U> nickrud, The set -e tells it to exit whenever a command fails, try for instance running "set -e" in a terminal then running "flase"
[07:20] <Flannel> darkchr0n0s: Desktop CD is an image that gets copied to your HDD (more or less).  Alternate CD is a bunch of packages with an installer.  It gives you a lot more flexibility, and a variety of install options.
[07:20] <Mic1> later
[07:21] <Jordan_U> nickrud, Or false even :)
[07:21] <nickrud> Jordan_U: exit with what error code?
[07:21] <Jordan_U> nickrud, But even then you are running a script with no idea what it is going to do, which I don't like
[07:21] <WGGMk> usr13: they took me off guard. i should of guessed some open source team would make it easy..
[07:21] <Lanken> Flannel: is there any way that I can lock the MBR so that even if I hit the wrong thing, ubuntu won't mess with it?
[07:21] <darkchr0n0s> Flannel , oh.. that's a huge difference.. din't know about that
[07:21] <nickrud> Jordan_U: I usually ask them to put the script up on a pastebin first, sometimes just commenting a line or two is the best solution
[07:22] <Flannel> Lanken: Not that I'm aware of
[07:22] <scguy318> Lanken: i guess you could say, back it up with dd?
[07:22] <WGGMk> welp, good night NIX HEADS.. thanks for the info usr13. Gusty 4 The WIN!
[07:22] <Lanken> scguy318: very funny...I'm running vista right now.
[07:23] <scguy318> Lanken: you can do that on the LiveCD i suppose, or use favorite MBR backup tool
[07:23] <Jordan_U> powerserve, Can you pastebin the output of "sudo dpkg --configure clvm" ?
[07:23] <sleepynate> darkchr0n0s, i am indeed
[07:24] <sleepynate> darkchr0n0s, 733 p3 coppermine with 320mb baby. go recycled hardware go! :D
[07:24] <darkchr0n0s> sleepynate : i am gonna use it as a media server :(, but 40$ is a good deal
[07:24] <darkchr0n0s> yeah
[07:24] <darkchr0n0s> recycled
[07:24] <kyorisu> You guys need to lurk around schools more often, free hardware.
[07:24] <Jtkiefer> is there a way to gracefully just kill x to get back to command mode?
[07:25] <sleepynate> darkchr0n0s, the badass part is, running feisty, it will kick winXP home's speed on a 2.1ghz p4 with 1gb in just about anything
[07:25] <sleepcat> CUPS keeps asking me for a root password and I give it and it asks for it again over and over
[07:25] <nickrud> Jtkiefer: ctl-alt-f1, login, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[07:25] <sleepcat> can I smash my computer?
[07:25] <sleepynate> darkchr0n0s, oh, except converting media files :(
[07:25] <nickrud> sleepcat: at :631? it accepts my user & password
[07:27] <Jtkiefer_> what was that kill command again?
[07:27] <sleepcat> nickrud: yes at localhost:631
[07:27] <darkchr0n0s> sleepynate : good to hear that ;), i was recently pissed of vista, i have no idea why it has so huge hard disk activity :(, moved to ununtu
[07:28] <usr13> sleepcat: sudo passwd root
[07:28] <kyorisu> darkchr0n0s: Vista thrashes your hdd initially due to file indexing.
[07:28] <gnani> is there any package to run MP3 files in linux
[07:28] <Flannel> !mp3 | gnani
[07:28] <ubotu> gnani: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:28] <sleepynate> darkchr0n0s, well welcome to the club!
[07:28] <usr13> gnani: play *.mp3
[07:28] <Jtkiefer_> If I control,alt,f1 out of x what's the command to get back to x
[07:28] <Flannel> Jtkiefer_: ctrl-alt-f7
[07:29] <sleepynate> darkchr0n0s, i'm a big advocate of old gear. i recycle everyone's old systems :D
[07:29] <usr13> gnani: rythmbox  xmms  etc.
[07:29] <darkchr0n0s> kyorisu : i have been using it for about a month.. came bundled with laptop
[07:29] <Jtkiefer> Flannel, thanks
[07:29] <Jordan_U> Jtkiefer, Or, if X is not running, "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start"
[07:29] <darkchr0n0s> sleepynate : i am happy to join the club :P
[07:29] <nickrud> sleepcat: just deleted a printer, I used my regular username and password
[07:29] <kyorisu> darkchr0n0s: Hmm wierd, never really had any HDD issues myself. Then again I stopped using it pretty quickly.
[07:30] <gnani> i tryed but it is not installing in Redhat linux
[07:30] <darkchr0n0s> sleepynate : i might go for that ;)... nowadays ppl buying old PC's as download rigs.. internet going cheap here
[07:30] <Jtkiefer> Jordan, hmm, time for me to get a sticky note ready, there's no way I can remember that :)
[07:30] <Jordan_U> gnani, Just double click the mp3 :)
[07:30] <Jtkiefer_> sudo /init.d
[07:30] <Jtkiefer_> oops, mt
[07:31] <gnani> do anybody having complete package for MP3 files
[07:31] <sleepynate> darkchr0n0s, don't even worry about having to use xubuntu. my experience is that the standard k/ubuntu installs run great at anything over 500mhz
[07:31] <vinboy__> hi
[07:31] <Kai_wp3> Anyone know of a good image editor that will let me make .TGA's and set all their details? >.>
[07:31] <vinboy__> how do I tell iptables to drop all INVALID incoming packets?
[07:31] <kyorisu> I have an old 300mhz box sitting as the net gateway/file server/misc uses got if for free off someone buying a new computer. Tis running Ubuntu server 6.06.
[07:31] <sleepynate> darkchr0n0s, only thing you'll find iffy is 3d acceleration, but these old rigs make great dvd players/jukeboxes/whatever
[07:32] <sleepynate> darkchr0n0s, ssh into it from your bedroom and change the music in the living room, etc etc
[07:32] <sleepynate> :D
[07:32] <TylerJGillies> i like ubuntu because you can type a command name, and if it isn't installed it will tell you what package to install
[07:32] <TylerJGillies> thats pretty sweet
[07:33] <ivx> Hello,
[07:33] <ari_stress2> hello
[07:33] <brokentire> hello
[07:33] <gnani> hello
[07:33] <ehc> are there any pdf editing applications?
[07:33] <ehc> for ubuntu
[07:34] <brokentire> Ive done this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=565096&page=4 but still I cant get sound...can someone help me ?
[07:34] <darkchr0n0s> sleepynate : i will use it as a media streaming and/or ftp server.. not buying a monitor.. ssh/vnc and that's it
[07:34] <ivx> ari_stress2 brokentire gnani wow you guys are polite, i was going to ask a question but accidentally pressed enter lol
[07:35] <ivx> in the wifi manager where it lists the networks the ones with a key have the sheild, there is one with a computer monitor pic next to it, it's a wirless one, what does that mean?
[07:35] <darkchr0n0s> connection gone :(
[07:36] <scguy318> ivx: peer-to-peer, or IBSS connection?
[07:36] <powerserve> sir jordan nothing happened.. when i put that to the terminal
[07:36] <kevsthabest> hey guys, i got a small problem with bind../etc/bind/named.conf:12: unknown option 'zone' <--- i cant figure out whats wrong
[07:37] <Jordan_U> powerserve, Strange, try opening update-manager or synaptic again
[07:37] <powerserve> ok sir
[07:37] <brokentire> caN ANYONE help me get sound?
[07:37] <ivx> scguy318, I have no idea what is was i saw it and was wondering what it stood for. I just thought though that someone could be broadcasting from their notebook, and that is what that might mean
[07:38] <scguy318> ivx: could be
[07:38] <Jordan_U> brokentire, I am not sure blindly running the commands on that thread was a good idea
[07:38] <Lil-Arsin> #cops20
[07:38] <Matthew\Dekay> =\
[07:39] <gnani> hello
[07:39] <Jordan_U> brokentire, Try running "alsamixer" in a terminal and make sure that none of the channels have "MM" below them ( "MM" means they are muted )
[07:40] <Jordan_U> gnani, You need to ask a question to get a response
[07:40] <brokentire> jordan_U: any suggestions?
[07:41] <Jordan_U> brokentire, again, Try running "alsamixer" in a terminal and make sure that none of the channels have "MM" below them ( "MM" means they are muted )
[07:41] <gnani> oh sure!
[07:41] <brokentire> jordan_U: no 'mm' found
[07:42] <Jordan_U> brokentire, Are all of the channels turned up?
[07:42] <brokentire> yes
[07:42] <tico1> hello everybody
[07:42] <brokentire> but mute light indicator is orange instead of blue beside my keyboard
[07:42] <tico1> do someone know how to open Pcad file?
[07:43] <Flannel> brokentire: tx1000z?
[07:43] <gnani> why linux doesnt support MP3 file ?
[07:43] <brokentire> no dv9548us
[07:44] <Flannel> gnani: it does
[07:44] <brokentire> what I did so far is posted here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=565096&page=4
[07:44] <_2> gnani propritary "non-free"
[07:44] <usr13> tico1: See: http://www.freepcb.com/
[07:45] <ech0dish> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170155773500
[07:45] <Jordan_U> gnani, Did you try double clicking it?
[07:45] <gnani> how ?i am trying this for past 20 days i cont install any MP3 players in my Redhat linux
[07:45] <Jordan_U> gnani, Are you using Ubuntu right now or Red Hat?
[07:45] <gnani> i am using REDHAT linux
[07:46] <_2> i have an xorg issue,   error  "could not open default font 'fixed'"  what package will provide fixed fonts ?
[07:46] <Jordan_U> gnani, This is #ubuntu, it is not for redhat support
[07:46] <Flannel> gnani: This is not a redhat support channel, you should ask them, since instructions will be specific to redhat.
[07:46] <darkchr0n0s> goto redhat channel then
[07:46] <peter_> how do I get an app. to launch automatically when i log on   e.g. thunderbird ?
[07:46] <tico1> usr13: thanks
[07:46] <musikgoat> peter_: system -> prefs -> sessions
[07:46] <gnani> i didnt find Red Hat channel here
[07:46] <peter_> ok i'll check it :)
[07:46] <Jordan_U> gnani, #redhat
[07:46] <darkchr0n0s> peter_ : put it in gnome-session-properties
[07:47] <_2> ?
[07:47] <darkchr0n0s> gnani : redhat which version ?
[07:47] <brokentire> any more suggestions for sound problem?
[07:47] <gnani> core 4
[07:47] <peter_> wow that was easy ...thanks
[07:47] <_2> /join #fedora
[07:47] <tico1> usr13: is that for linux?
[07:48] <darkchr0n0s> gnani : suggest you install something newer
[07:48] <usr13> Sorry, no
[07:48] <usr13> tico1: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=73743&package_id=73907
[07:49] <_2> someone? i have an xorg issue,   error  "could not open default font 'fixed'"  what package will provide fixed fonts ?
[07:49] <usr13> See ^^^^
[07:49] <powerserve> sir jordan i don't know but i think the problem is already resolved.. i encountered no more errors when i updated and add/remove.. thanks so much for the help!
[07:49] <Jordan_U> gnani, Why are you running such an old version of Red Hat?
[07:49] <usr13> tico1: sudo apt-get install pcb
[07:49] <Jordan_U> powerserve, You should none the less remove the clvm package, since you don't need it
[07:49] <_2> how old is c4 anyway ?  older than dapper ?
[07:50] <powerserve> ok noted sir i would do that
[07:50] <powerserve> take care and God Bless!
[07:50] <brokentire> any help on my sound problem?
[07:50] <varka_> tico1: http://www.geda.seul.org/download.html
[07:50] <Jordan_U> _2, 2005 I think
[07:50] <Jordan_U> _2, So yes
[07:50] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[07:51] <varka_> tico1: but i dont think the alternatives are able to import pcad files
[07:51] <raddy> Some package management related doubts
[07:51] <Jordan_U> gnani, Why are you running such an old version of Red Hat?
[07:51] <_2> oh my it's ancient.   2005   hang anyone that attempts to use software that old...
[07:51] <tico1> varka_: ok thanks by the way . my problem know is that i need to open a file and that file is in pcad format
[07:51] <_2> why are you harassing the guy about the age of his software ?
[07:52] <raddy> How to show all softwares that i installed add/remove instead of a subset?
[07:52] <raddy> Why some updates are not detected?
[07:52] <sensae> Can anyone recommend a good GUI mpeg encoder?
[07:52] <tico1> usr13: that programs pcb work with pcad?
[07:52] <Flannel> raddy: synaptic package manager lets you see all the packages, not just the select ones in add/remove
[07:52] <varka_> tico1: the other - commercial - alternative would be eagle, but even that wont be able to import pcad
[07:52] <Jordan_U> _2, He has "spent 20 days" trying to get it to work, I am just wondering why
[07:52] <dbe> raddy: System > Administration > Synapic package manager.
[07:53] <gnani> this is  provided by my office
[07:53] <powerserve> hi there again sir jordan.. i have removed clvm and i now encountered an error
[07:53] <raddy> okk
[07:53] <tico1> varka_: yes i used that lon time ago ! thanks soo much varka
[07:53] <_2> Jordan_U maybe he has the time but not the resources. or maybe it's corprate
[07:53] <gnani> this is provided by my office
[07:53] <Jordan_U> powerserve, Can you pastebin the error?
[07:53] <tico1> varka_: maybe the only way will be go to windows
[07:53] <tico1> :(
[07:53] <powerserve> ok
[07:54] <_2> gnani but you still want channel    #fedora
[07:54] <varka_> tico1: perhaps pcad is able to save in another format
[07:54] <gnani> yes
[07:54] <tico1> varka_: what do you meAN?
[07:54] <sensae> Can anyone recommend a GUI mpeg encoder for gnome?
[07:54] <dmagno> _2 I'm back!
[07:54] <powerserve> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39510/
[07:54] <dbe> sensae: vlc has it all
[07:54] <clouder> is there a way I can see installed packages sorted by time of installation?
[07:54] <powerserve> that is the error's link sir jordan
[07:54] <sensae> dbe: it can encode?
[07:54] <tico1> varka_: yes it's true but a friend already sent to me a file.
[07:54] <dmagno> I reconfigured the xserver using my monitors manual as reference and that not workd at all
[07:55] <_2> dmagno ok.   working or no ?
[07:55] <varka_> tico1: i mean, perhaps you can save the file in pcad into another format which is readable by linux alternatives
[07:55] <dbe> sensae: It is dependent of the mpeg encoder so yes.
[07:55] <raddy> Flannel: for eg i added pidgin 3rd party backport, the website says they updated pidgin to 2.1.1 but i am running 2.1.0, and ubuntu says you are up to date when i check for updates.
[07:55] <dmagno> i'm trying to put that nvidia card working for 4 months
[07:56] <Flannel> raddy: Did you add a repository for pidgin? or just downloaded the deb file?
[07:56] <Jordan_U> gnani, Will they not let you install a current version?
[07:56] <tico1> varka_: i will check it out! user13 told me about pcb sorware but i dont know if i can use that to see pcad files.
[07:56] <gnani> no
[07:56] <musikgoat> Flannel: feisty needs a 3rd party repo
[07:56] <_2> dmagno so try again.  different settings.   when you get it right then it will work.    and you can use the "vesa" driver if needed to get it up and running.    i can't really help you with the nvidia driver particularly though
[07:56] <musikgoat> gutsy does not
[07:57] <dmagno> ok I understand
[07:57] <Flannel> musikgoat: That doesn't mean he added the repos.  He mightve just done a local install of the deb files.
[07:57] <dmagno> I don't know whatelse to change in xserver config
[07:57] <scguy318> raddy: debuntu?
[07:57] <qwerkus> Hi all
[07:58] <dmagno> I'm intrigated with this issue cause the nvidia driver had worked with another debian distro
[07:58] <Jordan_U> gnani, Do you know why they require you to use a *very* old version of Fedora?
[07:58] <ech0dish> genuntu?
[07:58] <gnani> this is RHEE 5 edition RedHat
[07:58] <clouder> how can I get a list of the last X installed packages?
[07:58] <_2> dmagno the monitor,  use the middle selection not advanced not simple and get as close as possable to what you know yours is.  that should give a "usable" range.
[07:59] <Flannel> clouder: dpkg.log
[07:59] <raddy> Flannel: ofcource i added the repo.
[07:59] <clouder> ty
[07:59] <gnani> it think this is the most current version
[07:59] <Jordan_U> gnani, So you are using RHEL, not Fedora?
[07:59] <DShepherd> nite everyone..
[07:59] <varka_> tico1: maybe you find the answer here http://pcb.sourceforge.net/manual.html
[07:59] <raddy> scguy318: nope, the packages are for specific to my ubuntu version.
[08:00] <dmagno> _2 ok I'll try your suggestion but now I need to sleep :-)
[08:00] <qwerkus> It would be really nice if someone could help me solve some -i guess- acpi problem, so I can start again my laptop normally: 9 times in 10, as soon as grub loads the kernel image, I'm getting "critical temperature reached (3926C)" followed up by a shutdown ...
[08:00] <_2> dmagno it is also possable that the fbcon module is interfeering eith the vidio driver
[08:00] <Flannel> raddy: Then the repos must not be updated.  You can check manually if you'd like, browse to the repos with a web browser and take a gander at the Packages.gz file for version number
[08:00] <dmagno> I'm very thankfull for you help
[08:00] <tico1> varka_: thanks a lottt
[08:00] <dmagno> I'll also investigate the fcon module for sure
[08:00] <_2> you can try booting with "nosplash"  on the kernel line and see if it helps.
[08:01] <qwerkus> doesn't help
[08:01] <_2> dmagno it's fbcon   frame buffer console  driver.   provides the mechenism for usplash
[08:01] <scguy318> qwerkus: screwy temperature sensor? disable something in BIOS?
[08:01] <dmagno> _2 ok I'll study this module
[08:02] <dmagno> thanx for your help!
[08:02] <qwerkus> scguy318, not possible: no option in BIOS
[08:02] <_2> dmagno luck with it.
[08:02] <qwerkus> but it works well in recovery mode
[08:02] <dmagno> have a nice day!
[08:02] <dmagno> bye
[08:02] <Jtkiefer> in /etc/log if failog isn't a recognized log, what is it?
[08:02] <tico1> varka_: your link was very helpful I check and it dosen't support pcad files. thanks again for your time
[08:03] <PlayMeNow> hello
[08:03] <qwerkus> hi
[08:04] <PlayMeNow> can anyone help me with ntfs-3g on xubuntu (everyone is sleeping in their room)\
[08:04] <PlayMeNow> ?
[08:04] <Jordan_U> gnani, I would really like to help you, but I need more information, you are not being very clear. Are you running Fedora or RHEL ?
[08:04] <Jtkiefer> in /var/log if failog isn't a recognized log, what is it?
[08:04] <_2> can anyone help me with xorg issue "could not open default font 'fixed'" ???
[08:05] <Jordan_U> PlayMeNow, Have you tried ntfs-config?
[08:05] <PlayMeNow> yes
[08:05] <PlayMeNow> it says it can't mount /windows
[08:05] <zanth> good evening, I have purchased a pci slot SATA extension card
[08:05] <PlayMeNow> now a new message: Error Message :
[08:05] <PlayMeNow> umount: /windows: device is busy
[08:05] <PlayMeNow> umount: /windows: device is busy
[08:05] <zanth> I am trying to mount the drive, ubuntu shows it as being on /dev/sda
[08:05] <scguy318> !ntfs-3g | PlayMeNow
[08:05] <ubotu> PlayMeNow: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[08:05] <zanth> but I can't seem read it
[08:05] <scguy318> PlayMeNow: well, what's using /windows?
[08:05] <zanth> I see it when running df
[08:05] <PlayMeNow> no idea
[08:06] <zanth> but if I mount it to say, /media/X
[08:06] <zanth> and I cd to it as a usr, I am locked out, as root, I get there but an ls gives an i/o error
[08:06] <Jordan_U> zanth, What FS and how did you mount it?
[08:06] <PlayMeNow> ooops, I forgot to shut down XMMS
[08:07] <_2> zanth sounds like fs or disk error
[08:07] <PlayMeNow> Thanks anyway
[08:07] <zanth> ntfs and I mounted it as mount /dev/sda1 /media/X
[08:07] <_2> !ntfs > zanth
[08:07] <_2> !ntfs-3g > zanth
[08:07] <powerserve> sir jordan how to i deal with that error when i attempted to remove clvm?
[08:08] <PlayMeNow> !ntfs | zanth
[08:08] <ubotu> zanth: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:08] <user_> What do you need to do to get another gnome-session in ctl+alt+f2 ?
[08:08] <zanth> thanks for the link..I have 3 other NTFS drives setup
[08:08] <zanth> its not the problem, I think it is the pci card
[08:08] <qwerkus> here comes another question: did the path to hdd partition change from kernel 2.6.17 to 2.6.20 ?
[08:08] <Jordan_U> powerserve, Sorry, I missed when / if you pastebin'd the error ( please type Jordan_U completely or it doesn't get highlighted as being a message to me )
[08:09] <zanth> Jordan_U, I have it set as ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0 in fstab
[08:09] <clouder> I can delete dpkg.log files without worries after I'm done using them?
[08:09] <_2> qwerkus probably.  i think 17 was using scsi emulation  i.e. sd?  as opposed to hd?
[08:09] <powerserve> ok sir
[08:09] <zanth> Jordan_U, as the other NTFS drives are set
[08:09] <PlayMeNow> can anyone tell me why after updating (I didn't dig through the list, too lazy) I have two new optinos in grub, one with the kernel version ending is -15 and one in -16 (with dashes) ?
[08:10] <Jordan_U> PlayMeNow, You have a new kernel version, the old one is available in case you need to boot from it for any reason
[08:10] <powerserve> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39511/ this is the link sir Jordan_U
[08:10] <qwerkus> _2, i'd rather think the opposite, 'cause now i switch to the crashing 2.6.20 (critical temp), i got some sda everywhere I used to have hdas
[08:10] <PlayMeNow> Jordan_U: Thanks
[08:11] <wissenistmacht> i'm sure the jews did it
[08:12] <wissenistmacht> not 100%, but 95%
[08:12] <darkchr0n0s> errr..
[08:12] <darkchr0n0s> where do they come into picture
[08:12] <darkchr0n0s> hidden ops :fear:
[08:13] <Madpilot> We lurk. It's more fun that way. For us, anyway.
[08:13] <intelikey> anyone help with xorg issue "could not open default font 'fixed'" ???
[08:14] <intelikey> what provides "fixed" fonts ?
[08:14] <ech0dish> you should ask the xorg peoples
[08:14] <qwerkus> intelikey: don't know your solution, but IIRC, it works WITHOUT !
[08:15] <intelikey> not here.
[08:15] <clouder> !clone > clouder
[08:15] <intelikey> that's a fatal error
[08:15] <mEck0> somebody else noticed that ubuntu 7.10 seems to eat fairly much memory?
[08:15] <qwerkus>  intelikey: 1. Check your fonts paths in /etc/X11/xorg.conf 2. check your font files in /usr/local/fonts (not sure)
[08:16] <Flannel> mEck0: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions
[08:16] <mEck0> thx Flannel
[08:16] <intelikey> qwerkus looking
[08:16] <clouder> !automate > clouder
[08:17] <user_> mEck0: Yeah, I have to restart firefox sometimes b/c it hoggs mem
[08:17] <Jordan_U> powerserve, Ok, I think I have a solution
[08:18] <neopsyche> Hi, when i try to suspend linux to sleep mode or whatever its called... it says i dont have enough swap memory.. or whatever its called
[08:18] <scguy318> user_: Firefox is a known mem/CPU hogger :(
[08:18] <powerserve> ok sir
[08:18] <scguy318> neopsyche: expand your swap partition
[08:18] <scguy318> neopsyche: you could try having it suspend to RAM
[08:18] <scguy318> neopsyche: i forgot how tho
[08:18] <neopsyche> Does ubutnu.. have that feature like on laptops where you can suspend and then resume after you turn your pc off?
[08:18] <Flannel> neopsyche: that's hibernation
[08:18] <scguy318> neopsyche: hibernation? yes
[08:18] <darkchr0n0s> can anyone help me with using xgamma command on a laptop... cannot configure the options
[08:19] <mEck0> user_, ok, I though if it might be some bugs in 7.10 or maybe it is firefox who eat so much (I have ff up with about 15 tabs right now...)
[08:19] <nox-Hand> Can I hardcode VGAout on my laptop?
[08:19] <neopsyche> thanks scguy
[08:19] <qwerkus> darkchr0n0s: I guess it works best when done in xorg.conf
[08:19] <scguy318> mEck0: it's nothing Gutsy specific, it's just...Firefox :( great browser, but they need to work on the bloat
[08:19] <qwerkus> did it once
[08:19] <russe11> Is there anything I can do to view the passwords stored in my keyring?
[08:20] <neopsyche> I have a 250gig hd that im busy recovering data from.. at the moment linux is installed on an old 8 gig..... will it be ok to keep linux on this 8 gig .. to run programs and just use the 250 for storage?
[08:20] <scguy318> russe11: System -> Administration -> Keyring Manager?
[08:20] <Jordan_U> powerserve, Run "sudo rm /etc/init.d/clvm" then "sudo apt-get remove clvm"
[08:20] <neopsyche> I mean... will it affect linux adversely? to run on an 8 gig?
[08:20] <powerserve> OK SIR
[08:20] <scguy318> neopsyche: yep
[08:20] <scguy318> neopsyche: for the former question
[08:20] <neopsyche> Because I already installed on 8 gig
[08:20] <intelikey> scguy318 they have been working on the bloat,  can't you tell by how much inproved the bloat is ?  :)))
[08:20] <scguy318> neopsyche: fno, its not a problem to run off 8 GB
[08:20] <darkchr0n0s> qwerkus : which section do I put it in ?
[08:20] <Jordan_U> neopsyche, 8 GIG is more than enough
[08:20] <scguy318> intelikey: lol
[08:20] <mEck0> scguy318, ok, great :)
[08:21] <neopsyche> thing is .. i still want to install a few more programs etc.... and hope i dont run out of room on the 8 gig
[08:21] <neopsyche> its already using like about 3 gigs i think.
[08:21] <qwerkus> darkchr0n0s: (looking for another old xorg_backup)
[08:21] <scguy318> neopsyche: programs aren't seriously large, shouldn't be an issue
[08:22] <neopsyche> also... when i boot linux it waits for about 1 to 2 minutes (at least it seems that way) and the red power light for the hard drive is always ON during this time... then eventually it boots into linux???
[08:22] <neopsyche> how much would i need to resize my swap file to allow for suspend hybernation to work?
[08:22] <neopsyche> I usually run quite a few programs at the same time.
[08:23] <neopsyche> Could i use ntfs as filesystem?
[08:23] <Jordan_U> neopsyche, Since Linux uses a package manager with dependencies instead of statically compiled programs you don't have the redundant libraries that make Windows apps so big ( they also tend to be more bloated )
[08:23] <qwerkus> darkchr0n0s: GOT IT ! In section monitor, you can add Gamma R/G/B (value from 0 to 1 )
[08:23] <intelikey> neopsyche bigger than ram.
[08:23] <neopsyche> ic thanks for all your input guys it helps
[08:23] <scguy318> neopsyche: probably a bit bigger than yer ram
[08:23] <Jordan_U> powerserve, Did that work?
[08:23] <neopsyche> i have one gig of ram
[08:23] <neopsyche> swap file is only 400 i think
[08:23] <user_> 2g should do
[08:23] <scguy318> neopsyche: NTFS as a filesystem for /? probably not, but for say /home or w/e else, sure
[08:23] <powerserve> i am checking it out sir.. i would keep you posted
[08:23] <qwerkus> looks like "Gamma           0.7 0.7 0.7" on my laptop
[08:23] <intelikey> neopsyche so 1g +
[08:24] <neopsyche> NTFS as filesystem for primarily storing video... but also for root of apache
[08:24] <neopsyche> but it uses the swap file for hybernation right?
[08:24] <scguy318> neopsyche: no problem with video storage, ntfs-3g is quite good, but apache root? mm
[08:24] <intelikey> does anyone know what package provides fixed fonts for the xserver ?    or where the default is set to fixed at ???
[08:24] <scguy318> neopsyche: yes
[08:25] <scguy318> neopsyche: sure I guess
[08:25] <neopsyche> I just thought ntfs would be good because then i could access files from windows on network also
[08:25] <N00buntu> An error occurred while writing the changes to the storage devices.
[08:25] <N00buntu> The resize operation is aborted.
[08:25] <scguy318> neopsyche: though im not sure how well ntfs-3g handles filesystem permissions
[08:25] <it-linux> neopsyche: as long as I know, linux doesn't need hybernation step, different than linux
[08:25] <Polygon89> ntfs does not have permissions
[08:25] <harshy> stick with ext for apache
[08:25] <overclucker> lets see if i can go without flooding the channel today
[08:25] <bmt2> i was wondering is there a way to create flash animation on ubuntu ?
[08:25] <howlingmadhowie> hi everybody :)
[08:25] <it-linux> soory than windows
[08:25] <scguy318> neopsyche: any filesystem would do for Samba/CIFS access
[08:25] <neopsyche> hmm.. to be honest... after the nightmare with windows i dont want to worry about file permissions
[08:25] <N00buntu> Hey im on the live cd right now trying to resize my windows NTFS partition and I got this:
[08:25] <N00buntu> An error occurred while writing the changes to the storage devices.
[08:25] <N00buntu> The resize operation is aborted.
[08:25] <Polygon89> neopsyche, ntfs does not have permissions
[08:26] <Polygon89> so your good
[08:26] <howlingmadhowie> Polygon89: yes, it does :)
[08:26] <N00buntu> ideas?
[08:26] <neopsyche> windows locked me out of my files .. then the start bar "disapeard" then I couldnt change users .. and system recovery said: not available.
[08:26] <intelikey> howlingmadhowie no it doesn't
[08:26] <neopsyche> :-)
[08:26] <neopsyche> horrific!
[08:26] <neopsyche> spent last 3 days lifting data from corrupt hd
[08:26] <Polygon89> how does ntfs have permissions if i can access any of the files on the accounts on this windows xp machine
[08:26] <howlingmadhowie> intelikey: i'm sure it does. wasn't that the big thing about windows NT that ntfs supports ownership and permissions and stuff?
[08:27] <bmt2> i found f4l and quira but i do not see much recent work being done on either...does anyone know of any recent flash apps developed for linux ?
[08:27] <N00buntu> ..
[08:27] <scguy318> Polygon89: you set ACLs
[08:27] <howlingmadhowie> Polygon89: just because the file system supports permissions, doesn't mean that the rest of the operating system does
[08:27] <harshy> windows itself can lock permissions but not ntfs out of the box
[08:27] <qwerkus> intelikey: perhaps try to re-install xfonts-base and fontconfig
[08:27] <intelikey> howlingmadhowie well let me rephrase.   as far as linux is concerned no M$ fs yet has permissions bits
[08:27] <tsukasa> hey guys how can i start a second non-compized x session?
[08:27] <tsukasa> whats the command for it
[08:27] <Polygon89> i believe i can delete any one of my system files and windows wont care
[08:27] <neopsyche> but wouldnt linux have an option to be able to add permissions to ntfs?
[08:27] <neopsyche> or add them automatically?
[08:27] <ehc> could it be really bad to add gutsy's universe to my sources.lst on fiesty?
[08:28] <harshy> no
[08:28] <nox-Hand> Is there a way to hardcode VGAout on Xorg when I have a laptop? It doesn't automatically turn on my plasma screen out in +1 any more,
[08:28] <Polygon89> it might SUPPORT permissions but i honestly think it doesnt get used
[08:28] <harshy> thats fs specific
[08:28] <scguy318> ehc: yes
[08:28] <intelikey> qwerkus ah xfonts-base   good call i'll install it
[08:28] <scguy318> ehc: it could be
[08:28] <level1> !aptfix
[08:28] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[08:28] <N00buntu> the installation wont let me resize an NTFS partition
[08:28] <ehc> I want to get this http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/utils/pdfedit on feistry
[08:28] <howlingmadhowie> Polygon89: try logging on as a user without administrator rights.
[08:28] <scguy318> ehc: you probably could simply add it temporarily, update, install it, remove the repo, update again so you don't end with Gutsy :P
[08:29] <scguy318> ehc: not sure how well that would work tho
[08:29] <qwerkus> nox-Hand: depends on your graphic card. With intel chips and xrandr 1.2, you can do some nice things ...
[08:29] <CreativeSoul> how do i turn off all of these who enters and who exits the room messages?
[08:30] <neopsyche> Is there a way in Pidgion IM to add last user talked to to the front of the sentence by pressing a key??? it works that way in chatzilla by pressing tab.
[08:30] <scguy318> CreativeSoul: what client? probably in your options
[08:30] <neopsyche> Just wondering since that chat prog is default in ubuntu
[08:30] <scguy318> neopsyche: dunno, i run mIRC on Wine :P
[08:30] <musikgoat> neopsyche: i have that option
[08:30] <acoustyk> I have a partitioning question
[08:30] <scguy318> !ask
[08:30] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:30] <Polygon89> well the point is, i can still write to ntfs with ntf-3g without it yelling about permissions, so i assume it should be fine
[08:30] <Polygon89> and wikipedia does say it supports acl permissions whatever the hell those are
[08:30] <neopsyche> what do you press musikgoat?
[08:30] <musikgoat> its in a plugin
[08:30] <musikgoat> tab
[08:30] <howlingmadhowie> neopsyche: are you using GAIM?
[08:30] <musikgoat> pidgin is gaim
[08:30] <neopsyche> oh
[08:30] <neopsyche> what plugin?
[08:31] <acoustyk> why cant I edit this NTFS partition?
[08:31] <neopsyche> ponders
[08:31] <musikgoat> more irc maybe?
[08:31] <scguy318> !ntfs-3g | acoustyk
[08:31] <ubotu> acoustyk: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[08:31] <musikgoat> let me look
[08:31] <scguy318> acoustyk: in the context of partitioning
[08:31] <acoustyk> yes
[08:31] <scguy318> acoustyk: are you trying to resize?
[08:31] <scguy318> acoustyk: if so, is the partition mounted? thats probably why
[08:31] <acoustyk> Whilst partitioning I cant edit it
[08:31] <scguy318> acoustyk: just run over to your Terminal and do sudo umount -a
[08:31] <neopsyche> howlingmadhowie yes im using gaim
[08:31] <MrEgg964> hi all. If I upgrade from Feisty to Gusty when the final release is available, will it automatically upgrade OOo also?
[08:31] <dino_> Can anyone answer me if they've gotten Compiz/Beryl to work with Ati Radeon HD2400?!?
[08:32] <neopsyche> apparently they changed the name to pidgeon.. which is terrible.
[08:32] <neopsyche> ;-)
[08:32] <it-linux> ehc | offcourse, you won't be login anymore
[08:32] <scguy318> !effects
[08:32] <ubotu> For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[08:32] <harshy> MrEgg964: yes
[08:32] <MrEgg964> harshy: thanks
[08:32] <musikgoat> irc helper or irc more neopsyche
[08:32] <harshy> np
[08:32] <musikgoat> pidgin is a messenger. and finch, its command line version is less so?
[08:32] <qwerkus> scguy318: isn't there a specific chan for acpi / hardware / laptop problems ?
[08:33] <musikgoat> animals are common it seems?
[08:33] <qwerkus> i would really LOVE to get my laptop running normally again
[08:33] <howlingmadhowie> neopsyche: they were forced to change the name for legal reasons. i'm using gaim too, but i can't see any options to supress the entry and exit messages :(
[08:34] <CreativeSoul> how do you scan for wireless networks in ubuntu?
[08:34] <neopsyche> I have to say.. im very impressed with feisty.. the way it looks, feels, installed skype.. its so smooth... compaired to windows.
[08:34] <neopsyche> lol
[08:34] <neopsyche> Geek pr0n ;-)
[08:34] <CreativeSoul> skype for linux is garbage
[08:34] <alexbobp> Is there a way to load all the most important commands into a ramdisk temporarily, so I can do things like fsck the main filesystem without having to reboot?
[08:34] <neopsyche> it looks nice though.. the way it pops up... the simplicity
[08:34] <neopsyche> im happy with it.
[08:35] <acoustyk> i pasted sudo umount -a but it's not working should I substitute "-a" with the device or mount point or is something wrong?  I'm getting a "device is busy" response
[08:35] <tonyyarusso> CreativeSoul: command-wise, iwlist scan.  GUI, use network-manager
[08:35] <musikgoat> so neopsyche, i have irc more, irc helper, and join/part hiding
[08:35] <Tomcat_> alexbobp: The first is possible, the second not... you always need to unmount the fs you're checking, even if it's a ram drive.
[08:35] <howlingmadhowie> neopsyche: what formats does skype support nowadays? i use openwengo myself, because the format is open (sip)
[08:35] <CreativeSoul> ive tried to use the network manager and nothing happens
[08:35] <neopsyche> open wengo is cool.. also saw that.. the thing is that soooo many people already use skype.
[08:36] <CreativeSoul> in the tutorials it shows something acutally f-ing happening but in reality nothing ever shows up or is like it is in the tutorial
[08:36] <ech0dish> twinkle sip phone is cool too
[08:36] <ech0dish> i had pizza hut call dominoes with that thing
[08:36] <ech0dish> haha
[08:36] <user_> neopsyche: seen any of the gutsy compiz vids on youtube?
[08:36] <howlingmadhowie> neopsyche: i tend to try to force them to download openwengo :) i do something similar by only sending documents in tex, dvi or odf formats :)
[08:37] <CreativeSoul> are there any complete tutorials out there on how to set up a wireless network on ubuntu?
[08:37] <neopsyche> compiz vids?
[08:37] <neopsyche> howlingmadhowie hehehe
[08:37] <neopsyche> ;-)
[08:37] <neopsyche> yeah that sounds cool creativesoul
[08:37] <dino_> CreativeSoul: it's worked out of the box on all puters i've installed unbuntu
[08:38] <howlingmadhowie> CreativeSoul: Network Manager is really an afterthought at the moment. integration in the system is said to be a lot better on gutsy. do you know for sure, your network chipset is supported?
[08:38] <alexbobp> Tomcat_: I meant, use the ramdrive so I can unmount the hard drive filesystem and check it
[08:38] <alexbobp> I don't want to check the ramdrive
[08:38] <CreativeSoul> Ive got broadcom
[08:38] <CreativeSoul> on a brandnew hp laptop
[08:38] <neopsyche> i remember the open wengo interface being somewhat huge though.. when i tried it on windows
[08:38] <CreativeSoul> is broadcom supported?
[08:38] <scguy318> !bcm43xx
[08:38] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[08:38] <harshy> linux broadcom is still touchy
[08:38] <neopsyche> 6 million+ people online: skype
[08:38] <CreativeSoul> jesus
[08:38] <scguy318> CreativeSoul: if that feils, theres always ndiswrapper
[08:38] <howlingmadhowie> CreativeSoul: mm, i think most broadcom chipsets are supported. but harshy corrects me :)
[08:39] <harshy> they are...just still not mature code
[08:39] <neopsyche> Jesus was a Jew.
[08:39] <acoustyk> how do I mount a partition?
[08:39] <howlingmadhowie> neopsyche: but can they only talk to other skype users?
[08:39] <harshy> never huts to try tho
[08:39] <CreativeSoul> is it too much to hope that I could get on the internet wirelessly just by using the live cd?
[08:39] <scguy318> acoustyk: sudo mount /dev/name /mnt/point
[08:39] <CreativeSoul> lol
[08:39] <harshy> gutsy should detect it out of the box
[08:39] <sstchur> I've managed to get swat running, but it's very stripped down -- where are all of the config options?
[08:39] <phpcurious> hi, i think many may have encountered this kind of problem... when I am surfing the net in ubuntu (installed in VMWare) there is sputnik showing up in google.com... why is this so?
[08:39] <acoustyk> thanks
[08:39] <scguy318> CreativeSoul: i wish it wasn't
[08:39] <scguy318> CreativeSoul: but wireless support is still a bit finicky
[08:39] <CreativeSoul> ok
[08:40] <scguy318> CreativeSoul: Broadcom's lack of specs == hard for devs
[08:40] <CreativeSoul> ahhh
[08:40] <neopsyche> I think the part where Jesus whipped some moneychangers/bankers was cool... perhaps the same will happen with microsoft.
[08:40] <scguy318> CreativeSoul: bcm43xx is reverse engineered, but not perfect
[08:40] <harshy> best to use hardline untill you get wireless up CreativeSoul
[08:40] <CreativeSoul> i hope microsoft tastes the bitter defeat of windows users switching to linux
[08:40] <neopsyche> yeah howlingmadhowie only skype users
[08:40] <neopsyche> :-)
[08:40] <neopsyche> you are right
[08:40] <neopsyche> perhaps open wengo better
[08:40] <harshy> you probably will end up with ndiswrapper and a windows driver
[08:40] <neopsyche> on pricipal
[08:41] <CreativeSoul> ok
[08:41] <howlingmadhowie> neopsyche: mm, i think this isn't the right forum for mentioning religious stuff. there are more than a thousand people here and doubtless many different religious directions are represented
[08:41] <harshy> iirc ndis is not in default install
[08:41] <CreativeSoul> are there any ubuntu repos that come with ndiswrapper of the like preinstalled on them?
[08:41] <CreativeSoul> so i can use it as a live cd?
[08:41] <harshy> not that i know of
[08:41] <scguy318> CreativeSoul: well, you could carry around the fine debs on a USB stick....:P
[08:41] <harshy> but you can download the debs and put them on a cd and install after
[08:41] <neopsyche> howlingmadhowie: yeah.. i was just commenting in passing... because creativesoul said Jesus out of nowhere.
[08:41] <CreativeSoul> hmmmmm
[08:41] <sethbrown> alexbobp, why don't you boot from the liveCD and run the fsck from there?
[08:41] <neopsyche> ;-)
[08:41] <scguy318> CreativeSoul: probably not the ideal u wanted tho
[08:41] <qwerkus> howlingmadhowie: guess so, but our second faith is U-B-U-N-T-U !
[08:41] <neopsyche> no harm intended
[08:42] <CreativeSoul> i could go for that
[08:42] <CreativeSoul> i got an sd card reader on the side
[08:42] <neopsyche> LOL!
[08:42] <harshy> CreativeSoul: but like I said, the bcm43xx driver should detect out of the box, but it will need the firmware from your windows driver
[08:42] <alexbobp> sethbrown: The point is I don't want to shut down the computer
[08:42] <acoustyk> i mounted the partition to /media but I still cannot edit it
[08:42] <harshy> still not streamlined yet
[08:42] <alexbobp> Otherwise I'd just set it to fsck on the next bootup
[08:42] <CreativeSoul> ok how can i copy it?
[08:42] <alexbobp> although at this point, I may as well.
[08:43] <neopsyche> well ubuntu means community... Mark shuttleworth from my country is the only african to ever go to space..
[08:43] <CreativeSoul> ei yei yei
[08:43] <alexbobp> How do I set it to fsck on the next bootup?
[08:43] <CreativeSoul> Im running windows vista sigh
[08:43] <neopsyche> Then the second thing he did with his cash was create the ubuntu distro.. well fund it.
[08:43] <scguy318> CreativeSoul: downgrade to XP at least :P
[08:43] <harshy> CreativeSoul: goto packages.ubuntu.com and search for ndiswrapper on gutsy and download from there is easiest
[08:43] <CreativeSoul> jesus i know
[08:43] <sethbrown> it's kind of iffy to fsck a filesystem on a live computer; you have to make sure nothing's open on the filesystem first, then umount and fsck it
[08:43] <neopsyche> He moved to england now though.
[08:43] <neopsyche> I think london
[08:43] <user_> What would you type in terminal to get a new gnome session in ctl alt f2 ?
[08:43] <scguy318> sethbrown: or really just remount- as ro
[08:44] <CreativeSoul> is gutsy running right now?
[08:44] <user_> Gutsy!
[08:44] <scguy318> CreativeSoul: running?
[08:44] <CreativeSoul> running = stable
[08:44] <harshy> It is going final this month
[08:44] <sethbrown> if you remount as ro, how can you fix the errors?
[08:44] <CreativeSoul> ahhhhh
[08:44] <scguy318> !gutsy | CreativeSoul
[08:44] <ubotu> CreativeSoul: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[08:44] <CreativeSoul> so its ready?
[08:44] <it-linux> CreativeSoul | no it's still beta
[08:44] <scguy318> very soon now
[08:44] <harshy> its pretty stable now
[08:45] <acoustyk> I have this partition mounted to /media but cannot resize it
[08:45] <scguy318> CreativeSoul: should be out like October 18 or so
[08:45] <harshy> not perfect...but usable
[08:45] <CreativeSoul> so i could prob dl and give it a try?
[08:45] <it-linux> CreativeSoul | you can try on live CD
[08:45] <harshy> minor updates now
[08:45] <CreativeSoul> ahhh i shall
[08:46] <CreativeSoul> where is a good spot to download it?
[08:46] <harshy> ubuntu.com
[08:46] <neopsyche> Cheers people.. unity, peace, prosperity through ubuntu ;-)
[08:46] <harshy> naturally
[08:46] <acoustyk> mount: /dev/sda2 already mounted or /media busy
[08:46] <acoustyk> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda2 is already mounted on /media
[08:46] <harshy> tchus
[08:46] <acoustyk> but no dice on the resizing
[08:46] <howlingmadhowie> this is soooo cool :) berkeley's started posting entire lectures on youtube :) :) :)
[08:46] <CreativeSoul> all i can find is the current distro to download
[08:47] <it-linux> CreativeSoul | really?  I check out now
[08:47] <CreativeSoul> where do you find the beta download pages?
[08:47] <CreativeSoul> i used to be able to easily find it before
[08:47] <harshy> http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/gutsybeta
[08:47] <howlingmadhowie> CreativeSoul: have a look here: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/gutsybeta#head-09942533e683a9d0224069978a37043a49572274
[08:47] <Flannel> CreativeSoul: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/gutsy/beta/
[08:47] <theMuss> Hi - linux noob, just replaced xp with ubuntu and can't get the dhcp stuff to go. Looks to me like it's asigning me an outside ip. Can anyone help or point me at a good guide
[08:48] <decay> usr13, Hello i am back
[08:48] <\\ZimmY> when i start kde it stops at window manager
[08:48] <CreativeSoul> thanks everyone
[08:49] <CreativeSoul> very very much
[08:49] <harshy> CreativeSoul: cheers
[08:49] <wabiD> is there anything similar to autogk for linux?
[08:50] <scguy318> theMuss: outside IP? like non-private?
[08:51] <it-linux> CreativeSoul | ;)
[08:51] <howlingmadhowie> theMuss: how are you connecting to the net?
[08:51] <Riga> secret
[08:51] <howlingmadhowie> theMuss: i mean wireless or wired?
[08:51] <decay> usr13, still there man?
[08:52] <decay> I made a server in python. I can connect to it from my own machine, but others outside can't Any help on this would be appreciated
[08:53] <decay> Does ubuntu block ports?
[08:53] <harshy> decay: not unless you edited firewall rules
[08:53] <decay> harshy, how do i view this?
[08:53] <gnani> clear
[08:54] <tetreaul> decay: router?
[08:54] <decay> No idea. ill check the settings
[08:56] <howlingmadhowie> decay: can others in your network connect to the service?
[08:56] <jacobat> How does one configure the IP address of a feisty server?
[08:56] <jacobat> I can't seem to find the relevant documentation, it all seems to relate to desktop installations
[08:58] <howlingmadhowie> decay: ubuntu by default does not block any ports. however, you have to advertise the service on a port. i tend to install inetd and enter my services in /etc/inetd.conf
[08:58] <blooshoo> is there a good place to find drivers for hardware for linux?
[08:59] <usr13> blooshoo: drivers for what hardware?
[08:59] <it-linux> I'm back
[08:59] <blooshoo> i have a external maxtor harddirve (that connects via usb 2.0..) and linux dosent even detect it
[08:59] <Kokswijk> Morning
[09:00] <theMuss> scguy318: Yeah its 169.254 rather than the 192.168
[09:00] <blooshoo> i can find windows and mac drivers =P
[09:00] <usr13> blooshoo: you must have a really stripped down kernel?
[09:00] <decay> howlingmadhowie, let me try.
[09:00] <it-linux> blooshoo | what Ubuntu version have you used?
[09:00] <theMuss> howlingmadhowie: wired, with a belkin router
[09:01] <kimurin> !help | kimurin
[09:01] <usr13> blooshoo: what do you mean, "doesn't detect it"?
[09:01] <howlingmadhowie> theMuss: that ip-address seems to suggest that dhcp isn't working
[09:01] <blooshoo> its a almost fresh gnome install :-* i dont know exactly which version it is
[09:01] <usr13> blooshoo: are you sure?
[09:01] <decay> howlingmadhowie, inetd.conf is blank. is that normal?
[09:01] <blooshoo> use13 klike in windows you plug it in and fire it up and it says it sees it and showsup :v
[09:01] <blooshoo> new hardware blahblahbalh
[09:02] <blooshoo> im not familar with installing hardware on a linux distro though so i could be missing something simple
[09:02] <howlingmadhowie> decay: once you've just install inetd, the file will be blank. now you can add a service to it. have a look at the syntax in man inetd
[09:02] <scguy318> theMuss: looks like the fine autoconf :( something wrong with DHCP
[09:02] <it-linux> blooshoo | on Feitsy there's nothing trouble, I've usually use external HDD by USB
[09:02] <scguy318> blooshoo: well, wut hardware
[09:02] <usr13> blooshoo: do you have a serious question? Are you serious?
[09:02] <Kokswijk> Open Question: I googled on it but i couldn't find it anywhere. I am in a Windows domain (lets say bla.com) with my ubuntu machine. If i want to go to a internal website (using Firefox), lets say on a computer Harry, i type http://Harry. When i do this in windows, it automatically resolves in the network name but in ubuntu it tries and find Harry.com. when i type Harry.bla.com, (domain name) it finds the server. What am i doing wrong and where should i look to
[09:02] <howlingmadhowie> decay: then you can start the inetd superdemon (though i imagine it already is running: /etc/init.d/openbsd-inetd start
[09:02] <blooshoo> I am serious ?
[09:03] <decay> howlingmadhowie, thank you. but i don't think this is the right answer. Suppose i distribute my program. I wouldn't want others to have to go throught his
[09:03] <scguy318> blooshoo: what hardware?
[09:03] <decay> through this*
[09:03] <it-linux> blooshoo | are using live cd?
[09:03] <blooshoo> its a external harddrive
[09:03] <blooshoo> (maxtor onetouch II )
[09:03] <usr13> If you have a ubuntu install and the external hard drive is in working order, you should be able to mount it.
[09:03] <it-linux> blooshoo | now try re-connect again
[09:04] <scguy318> Kokswijk: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=88206 may be insightful
[09:04] <howlingmadhowie> decay: that's true, although most distributions have inetd or xinetd by default. you could add openbsd-inetd to the requirements if you distribute a deb, or you can look into making your program generate a background process which can listen to a port (assuming you haven't done that already)
[09:04] <Kokswijk> scguy318: Thank you, i will look into it
[09:04] <it-linux> usr13 | what do you think about blooshoo's problem?
[09:04] <scguy318> Kokswijk: backup as usual of course, and it seems a bit old
[09:04] <firefrog_> join #hack
[09:05] <scguy318> blooshoo: there should be zero problem using the device, is GNOME not automounting it?
[09:05] <blooshoo> yes its not automounting it, or if it is  i see no indication of iti
[09:05] <theMuss> Okay I've gone to System > admin > network and clicked on help. on their example the wied connection has a network card symbol on mine it has like a rj45 connecter as the symbol. does this mean ubuntu hasn't picked up the card. how do i check that???
[09:05] <decay> howlingmadhowie, i wsee
[09:05] <decay> thank you
[09:05] <Kokswijk> scguy318: Back up of course! This topic looks logical. Ill go test it. Thanks for the help!
[09:06] <scguy318> theMuss: pastebin the output of ifconfig in Terminal?
[09:06] <scguy318> !pastebin | theMuss
[09:06] <ubotu> theMuss: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:06] <scguy318> Kokswijk: np
[09:06] <it-linux> blooshoo | type this on terminal : fdisk -l
[09:06] <decay> howlingmadhowie, openbsd-inetd isnt installed. installing now
[09:06] <scguy318> Kokswijk: i imagine you would just append the new words to the line, on my Feisty, i have some extras
[09:06] <aata> hey can anyone tell me a way to edit a text file through the terminal... that is through a single command - not vi or emacs...
[09:06] <theMuss> scguy318: thanks, 2 secs
[09:07] <scguy318> aata: nano?
[09:07] <blooshoo> linux this does nothing =(
[09:07] <usr13> blooshoo: what version of Ubuntu did you install?
[09:07] <scguy318> blooshoo: pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l? looks like you might have to mount manually
[09:08] <overclucker> aata: you could give sed a poke
[09:08] <theMuss> haha - i'm on a different machine due to the internet being down - is there something that i should be looking for to check
[09:08] <usr13> blooshoo:  in a terminal window type:   uname -a
[09:08] <usr13> blooshoo: what does it say?
[09:08] <aata> overclucker, what?
[09:08] <it-linux> blooshoo | sorry now try this : sudo -l then ( you will prompt for password ) fdisk -l
[09:08] <aata> !sed | aata
[09:09] <scguy318> theMuss: well, is there a nice eth0 interface?
[09:09] <blooshoo> Linux b130 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Sun Sep 23 19:50:39 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[09:09] <scguy318> blooshoo: pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l? looks like you might have to mount manually
[09:09] <DerangedDingo> aata: I think you can do it somehow like this: "nano -optionican'tremember /path/to/file "echo linegettingaddedtothefile"
[09:10] <it-linux> blooshoo | you using Ubuntu Feisty
[09:10] <blooshoo> also linux i did that and i see a drive the correct size listed
[09:10] <overclucker> aata: sed is used for text relpacement, which may or may not be what you are asking for
[09:10] <it-linux> blooshoo | and how bout your external HDD? Is it recognize?
[09:10] <it-linux> blooshoo | or listed there?
[09:10] <theMuss> scguy318: I'm getting no rx packets sent????
[09:10] <usr13> blooshoo So you can see the drive after all?
[09:11] <scguy318> blooshoo: then just simply make a new mount point, say /mnt/external, then do sudo mount /dev/yourexternaldevice /mnt/external
[09:11] <blooshoo> i dunno. should I PM you this stuff? :D its all kind of forgin and new to me
[09:11] <scguy318> theMuss: could be something wrong with your setup :(
[09:11] <it-linux> blooshoo | ok
[09:11] <deadlyninja> does anyone know of a user friendly application to edit mpeg transport streams losslessly, i basically just want to cut data off the front and ends
[09:11] <aata> no see what i want to do is write a shell script that adds a certain line (that i tell the command) to a certain place in a certain file... that possible?
[09:11] <Sorcererbob> I'm looking for a MSN equivalent. I don't need support for other protocols (I like Xchat for IRC, and thats all I use). I need webcam support. I've tried GAIM (no cam), aMSN (feels all wrong) and Kopete (using it now, but its got the KDE feel to it). Suggestions?
[09:11] <blooshoo> hmm i need to register
[09:12] <usr13> blooshoo: Do you see an icon on the desktop labled "disk"?
[09:12] <overclucker> aata: that would be sed
[09:12] <theMuss> scguy318: okay - thanks for your help
[09:12] <aata> so should i try sudo apt-get install sed?
[09:12] <howlingmadhowie> deadlyninja: you can see if kino of cinerella can import them
[09:12] <it-linux> blooshoo | could you paste your /dev list?
[09:12] <overclucker> aata: you might alredy have it
[09:12] <aata> ah yes i do
[09:12] <notdarkyet> how do i connect to other computers on my network to transfer files
[09:13] <aata> is anyone here familiar with cairo dock?
[09:13] <howlingmadhowie> deadlyninja: i mean kino or cinerella :)
[09:13] <scguy318> Sorcererbob: mmmm
[09:13] <howlingmadhowie> notdarkyet: what operating system is on the other computers?
[09:13] <scguy318> Sorcererbob: im drawing a blank for all your criteria
[09:13] <notdarkyet> windows
[09:13] <usr13>  notdarkyet scp
[09:14] <Sorcererbob> scguy318: Yeah, me too. GAIM is the only one that I've used that feels like a GNOME application, but it doesn't have cam support
[09:14] <howlingmadhowie> notdarkyet: right click on the file you want to share and select "share" (or whatever it is in english)
[09:14] <usr13> scp filename username@192.168.1.21:Desktop
[09:14] <Jtkiefer> any idea on what the next LTS release is going to be?
[09:14] <notdarkyet> more specifically i would like to get music files from the other computer to mine
[09:14] <aata> overclucker, in totally unfamiliar with sed so could you help me out with the syntax?
[09:14] <Jtkiefer> or more accurately when it'll be] 
[09:15] <^LadyVaMpIrKa^> howlingmadhowie: net shere
[09:15] <scguy318> Sorcererbob: im blank :(
[09:15] <usr13> notdarkyet: scp filename username@192.168.1.21:Desktop
[09:15] <vlt> Jtkiefer: 2008-04
[09:15] <scguy318> !im
[09:15] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[09:15] <Sorcererbob> no worries, thanks anyway
[09:15] <howlingmadhowie> notdarkyet: then share the folder containing the music files on the windows box and then on ubuntu goto -> places-> network
[09:15] <scguy318> Sorcererbob: add KMess to your list, but it's KDE :P
[09:15] <overclucker> aata try #bash, they they are good at that stuff
[09:15] <howlingmadhowie> notdarkyet: you may have to wait a minute or two until the share appears. smb is notriously slow
[09:15] <scguy318> Sorcererbob: you can skin aMSN, but I do agree it kinda lacks the GNOME look
[09:15] <aata> ok thanks :)
[09:15] <Jtkiefer> vlt, ok thanks
[09:15] <scguy318> Sorcererbob: but thats what I use for the extra MSN features
[09:16] <Sorcererbob> fair enough
[09:16] <notdarkyet> ok, because nothing was showing up in network
[09:16] <Sorcererbob> I think I'll just stick with KDE
[09:16] <Sorcererbob> the devil I know V the devil I don't
[09:16] <^LadyVaMpIrKa^> Guys what should I do to protect my linux except useing a firewall?
[09:16] <howlingmadhowie> ^LadyVaMpIrKa^: thank you :)
[09:16] <Sorcererbob> with kopete *
[09:16] <notdarkyet> another quick question, anyone ever have there left or right speaker not working randomly
[09:16] <howlingmadhowie> ^LadyVaMpIrKa^: if you have any services open, have a look at making them more secure (for example dissable root login to an ssh server)
[09:16] <scguy318> ^LadyVaMplrKA^: don't give away passwords, dont look at porn/warez/bad stuff, don't fall victim to phishing
[09:16] <notdarkyet> its hit or miss on startup for me
[09:16] <Sorcererbob> notdarkyet: I'd be thinking hardware fault. Loose wires?
[09:16] <vlt> ^LadyVaMpIrKa^: Protect against what?
[09:17] <notdarkyet> i have a laptop
[09:17] <Jtkiefer> scguy318, don't look at porn, that defies human nature?
[09:17] <^LadyVaMpIrKa^> look now
[09:17] <Sorcererbob> notdarkyet: ...so? loose wires on the inside?
[09:17] <blooshootoo> also whoever asked: nothing is on my desktop except my music folder :D
[09:17] <Jtkiefer> scguy318, meant to say, don't look at porn? that defies human nature!
[09:17] <scguy318> Jtkiefer: well, um, use...protection :)
[09:17] <^LadyVaMpIrKa^> I have an ADSL modem standing before the pc,and a firewall - Firestarter i did the ip tables and rullz but i am afraid they might use SUN RPO against me
[09:17] <Sorcererbob> protection from what? zee germans?
[09:17] <overclucker> porn is only for experienced users
[09:17] <^LadyVaMpIrKa^> so any suggestions?
[09:18] <notdarkyet> i will check in the morning then, i mean if it was the driver it would either work on it wouldnt right?
[09:18] <howlingmadhowie> notdarkyet: smb is a horrible protocol and almost broken. it may be easier to install an ftp-server on the linux box (apt-get install vsftpd), and then install graphical ftp clients on the windows boxes.
[09:18] <notdarkyet> or not on
[09:18] <scguy318> ^LadyVaMplrKa^: while there's probably about 0 malware that's targeted at Linux, you'll probably want to focus on the human factor
[09:18] <^LadyVaMpIrKa^> any ideas?
[09:18] <scguy318> ^LadyVaMplrKa^: Ubuntu doesn't run any services on public interfaces by default so
[09:18] <arinomi> Is there any apt-get font packages
[09:19] <arinomi> ?
[09:19] <scguy318> !font
[09:19] <notdarkyet> ok thanks howl, i will do some research
[09:19] <scguy318> !fonts
[09:19] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[09:19] <Jtkiefer> scguy, indeed, you wouldn't go to a strange country and connect with all the women there without connection, don't let your computer connect to all the strange computers on the itnernet without protection, sorry trojans aren't allowed here :)
[09:19] <overclucker> ^LadyVaMpIrKa^: replace you retinal scanner with a high powered laser
[09:19] <Jtkiefer> *internet
[09:19] <howlingmadhowie> ^LadyVaMpIrKa^: have a look in ->system->administration->diagnose network and enter your own ip-address for a port scan
[09:19] <^LadyVaMpIrKa^> :D
[09:19] <scguy318> Jkkiefer: lool
[09:20] <scguy318> ^LadyVaMplrKa^: whatever SUN RPO is (Sun RPC?), Ubuntu probably isn't running it
[09:20] <^LadyVaMpIrKa^> this is something that overwhelms the firewall but i have no idea how it works :(
[09:20] <apparle> help with sound card
[09:20] <howlingmadhowie> ^LadyVaMpIrKa^: it would have to be pretty good to overwhelm netfilter...
[09:21] <^LadyVaMpIrKa^> and the Firestarter keeps  beeping
[09:21] <^LadyVaMpIrKa^> tima at a time
[09:21] <howlingmadhowie> ^LadyVaMpIrKa^: now that's interesting
[09:21] <howlingmadhowie> ^LadyVaMpIrKa^: do you have an ssh server installed and running?
[09:21] <^LadyVaMpIrKa^> should I use Cryptcat or Natcat on ubuntu?
[09:21] <^LadyVaMpIrKa^> no i dont
[09:22] <sakuranet02_> h
[09:22] <tomato> can someone help me with bash script?
[09:22] <^LadyVaMpIrKa^> i know it sounds lame and i am probably one of the many noobs but I need some help
[09:23] <apparle> I have a funny problem! input from mic gets reproduced from speakers but no recording is possible
[09:23] <Blackgoth> yeah a lady like ^LadyVaMpIrKa^  using linux, boo lame! ;)
[09:23] <tomato> i want to change user to change user to root using bash
[09:23] <tomato> is it possible?
[09:23] <vlt> ^LadyVaMpIrKa^: Depends on your needs. What do you want cryptcat for that ssh can't do for you?
[09:24] <Blackgoth> tomato: you want your current user to become root? of just sudo access?
[09:24] <tomato> a sudo access
[09:24] <tomato> eg i want to restart mysql on bash
[09:24] <^LadyVaMpIrKa^> Blackgoth : well that's life u see lots like me :D
[09:25] <Blackgoth> just open a terminal > as root or as a sudo user nano -w /etc/sudoers add your user and be done with it tomato
[09:25] <Madpilot> Blackgoth, bashing other users is never cool. Don't start.
[09:25] <Jtkiefer>  about to pull an upgrade, if I don't accidentally nuke my system I'll see you all on the other side of 6.10, wish me luck
[09:25] <Blackgoth> Madpilot: who did i bash?
[09:25] <Madpilot> Blackgoth, that sounded a lot like a swipe at ^LadyVaMpIrKa^ a few lines ago...
[09:26] <tomato> it wouldnt propmt for password?
[09:26] <Blackgoth> you failed to understand a smiley.
[09:26] <alexbobp> how do I resize my x server from the command line?
[09:26] <overclucker> Madpilot: i think they wre having goth moment or sumthin
[09:27] <Daverocks> alexbobp: you mean change the resolution?
[09:27] <Blackgoth> tomato: it will still ask for a password, if you want a user to only restart certain services please take a good look at the man file.
[09:27] <^LadyVaMpIrKa^> Oo
[09:27] <Blackgoth> overclucker: who is bashing who now.
[09:27] <alexbobp> Daverocks: yeah
[09:27] <Daverocks> alexbobp: xrandr can do it
[09:27] <overclucker> i dunno, i cant even pretend to understand half the subcultures today
[09:27] <Jtkiefer> ok, Could not calculate the upgrade: A Unresolvable problem occured while calculating the upgrade
[09:28] <alexbobp> Daverocks: thanks
[09:28] <howlingmadhowie> tomato: then make the bash script owned by root and set the sticky bit for uid
[09:28] <mrgenixus> hullo -- can someone point me to a download url for ubuntu's installer package?
[09:28] <mrgenixus> I need the linux version
[09:28] <Daverocks> mrgenixus: "installer package"?
[09:29] <Blackgoth> mrgenixus: www.ubuntu.com > download
[09:29] <overclucker> Blackgoth: sorry, just trying to make somthin big outa nuthin :D
[09:29] <Blackgoth> and there is only one version of ubuntu, and that IS linux :)
[09:29] <tomato> i want a none user to restart mysql on bash script wihtout asking for password? is it possible?
[09:29] <mrgenixus> no, no. I need the system command (e.g. bin) debian-installer or ubuntu-installer (preferabbly in .deb form)
[09:30] <Blackgoth> http://packages.ubuntu.org mrgenixus
[09:30] <Jtkiefer> ok, Could not calculate the upgrade: A Unresolvable problem occured while calculating the upgrade, anyone know what this is about? I got it while trying to do an upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 using the alternative cd
[09:30] <mrgenixus> Blackgoth: how do I search that?
[09:30] <Blackgoth> with the searchbutton?
[09:30] <howlingmadhowie> Jtkiefer: you're using a cd to do the upgrade? i didn't know that was possible
[09:30] <Mazhasai> 35
[09:30] <Madpilot> howlingmadhowie, the alternative CD can act as a repo
[09:30] <aata> is it wise to upgrade to gutsy beta now?
[09:31] <Jtkiefer> howling, it is using the alternative cd
[09:31] <Blackgoth> it's pritty stable right now aata
[09:31] <Madpilot> Blackgoth, mrgenixus - it's packages.ubuntu.com not .org
[09:31] <aata> and the download upgrade is about 700 mb?
[09:31] <Blackgoth> my bad Madpilot , bit too mutch packages.debian.org :+
[09:32] <howlingmadhowie> Madpilot: so if you've installed extra packages which aren't on the cd and don't have an internet connection, you may run into dependency problems
[09:32] <apparle> can i request CDs for gutsy
[09:32] <Blackgoth> apparle: if you click on the beta download, there is a request cd form
[09:32] <Madpilot> howlingmadhowie, yes - the CD is good for kernel/Gnome/OOo/GIMP and some of the other large standard packages, though
[09:32] <apparle> but is it stable
[09:33] <^LadyVaMpIrKa^> Oo
[09:33] <dgjones_> apparle, its still getting lots of updates
[09:33] <mrgenixus> so does ubuntu use the debain-installer to install now, or it a different application
[09:34] <Madpilot> apparle, the Gutsy CDs won't be pressed or shipped until it's been released as stable
[09:34] <Jtkiefer> here's the errors I got while trying to do the upgrade through update manager
[09:34] <dgjones_> apparle, i installed from the Beta cd yesterday, even with a that which had only been downloaded the same day, there was 203 updates via the internet
[09:34] <Jtkiefer> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39515/
[09:34] <Merijn> how do I make the remote access service start at the ubuntu login screen?
[09:34] <duffyd> hi, I've just updated my kernel for my edgy distro to 2.6.17-12 and I'm having problems with my ipw3945 interface
[09:34] <duffyd> anyone else experienced problems with the ipw3945?
[09:35] <scguy318> duffyd: not me but what's the issue
[09:35] <Madpilot> mrgenixus, the standard installer for Ubuntu is via LiveCD. the alternative CD has the traditional text installer
[09:35] <landon_> can anyone help me install compiz
[09:35] <mrgenixus> ok
[09:35] <Adam_eM> hi
[09:35] <duffyd> basically it seems to associate with the AP fine but then as traffic starts to pass through the interface it de-associates (if there is such a word ;)
[09:35] <alexbobp> landon_: sudo apt-get install compiz
[09:35] <alexbobp> and then, from command line, compiz --replace
[09:35] <mrgenixus> I just want the binary (which is apparently not in the debain-installer package... do you know which package does have it?
[09:36] <scguy318> duffyd: anything in system logs?
[09:36] <it-linux> duffyd | I try on search in my ubuntu, there's no such thing like ipw3945?
[09:36] <landon_> it says it cant find the package
[09:36] <scguy318> duffyd: perhaps a weak signal?
[09:36] <Jtkiefer> here's all the errors I got while trying the upgrade using gksu update-manager http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39515/
[09:36] <scguy318> it-linux: its a kernel module
[09:36] <Blackgoth> hm, my ipw3945 never worked :p
[09:36] <lunz> anyone knows how to install wireless DWL-G122 usb Ver c from Automatix2?anyone please tq
[09:37] <duffyd> scguy318: well I'm sitting right next to the AP
[09:37] <Madpilot> mrgenixus, haven't a clue. You might try #ubuntu-devel
[09:37] <mrgenixus> thanks
[09:37] <Adam_eM> i would like to perform some software installation because i have pure text mode system. the point is when i connect my machine to lan, i haven't got net access as well
[09:38] <AJ--> hello all just wanna ask wat seem to be my problem with my kiba.. coz it display 2 docks and i cant place it in the buttom part
[09:38] <scguy318> !automatix
[09:38] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[09:38] <scguy318> lunz: that said, what chipset is it?
[09:38] <alexbobp> landon_: which repos do you have enabled?
[09:38] <Adam_eM> and i don't know the router ip address
[09:38] <scguy318> duffyd: mm, anything in logs?
[09:38] <duffyd> scguy318: all I've got in my logs is: [17179909.276000]  ipw3945: association process canceled
[09:38] <duffyd> other than that everything is fine
[09:38] <duffyd> scguy318: well that is according to dmesg anyway
[09:39] <scguy318> duffyd: weird, dunno :(
[09:39] <AJ--> hello all just wanna ask wat seem to be my problem with my kiba.. coz it display 2 docks and i cant place it in the buttom part
[09:39] <duffyd> scguy318: I've just moved my laptop to another house (new one) and was working fine earlier today. Only difference is that I updated the kernel :(
[09:39] <mrgenixus> AJ--: you're goin to have to ask the question differently
[09:40] <tomato> can i switch user on bash script?
[09:40] <mrgenixus> asking the same question twice is pointless
[09:40] <scguy318> lunz: what chipset is it?
[09:40] <scguy318> duffyd: hmph, dunno :(
[09:40] <AJ--> i installed the kiba dock and the problem is .. wen i start it.. 2 docks came up and it wont display at the buttom part
[09:42] <duffyd> scguy318: np
[09:42] <Merijn> how do I make the remote access service start at the ubuntu login screen?
[09:43] <howlingmadhowie> tomato: you can do, provided the process has enough rights
[09:43] <Merijn> I can only SSH to my ubuntu server after it reboots, I can't log it into the GUI without connecting a keyboard and a screen :(
[09:43] <tomato> e.g. my bash is  #!/bin/sh     su root
[09:44] <tomato> how to enter password automatically? can it possible?
[09:44] <mrgenixus> Merijn:  I think you're looking for an XDMCP-based terminal server
[09:44] <howlingmadhowie> tomato: if you want a process to be run by root, change the owner of the script to root and set the sticky bit for uid
[09:45] <mrgenixus> the vino-server (the one you're using) only works once a user is logged in
[09:45] <mrgenixus> it runs in user mode
[09:45] <Woet> How do i show my workspaces on a cube? I checked the box in desktop effects, and i restarted ubuntu, but still no effect.
[09:45] <lunz> scguy318:how to check the chipset?
[09:45] <mrgenixus> the login screen is designed to prevent that sort of appication from running
[09:45] <scguy318> lunz: pastebin the output of lspci
[09:45] <jtkiefer> can anyone point me to the edgyupdate page on the wiki again, I had to restart so I lost the link
[09:45] <scguy318> !pastebin | lunz
[09:45] <ubotu> lunz: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:45] <scguy318> lunz: though you'll likely use ndiswrapper
[09:46] <musikgoat> can anyone help with nfsd,  i have it running on the server (verified 2,3,4 running in rpcinfo -p), and i try to connect with the following fstab entry: 192.168.1.4:/mnt/disk1/ /media/link_nfs nfs rw,user,noauto 0 0
[09:46] <mrgenixus> you may want to see is gdm can be configured to run 'vino-server' as well -- that would be in the gdm documentation.
[09:46] <tomato> set the sticky bit for uid? <--- what it means?
[09:46] <jtkiefer> can anyone point me to the edgyupdate page on the wiki again, I had to restart so I lost the link
[09:46] <musikgoat> I get this error:   mount.nfs: mount to NFS server '192.168.1.4' failed: RPC Error: Program not registered
[09:46] <scguy318> !upgrade
[09:46] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:46] <scguy318> might not be it
[09:49] <bullgard4> df shows for /dev/sda7  "available 519712 (kB)", but Gedit "free: 1,04 GiB." How to explain this contradiction? (http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/15665/)
[09:50] <duffyd> scguy318: fyi http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202943
[09:50] <Woet> How do i show my workspaces on a cube? I checked the box in desktop effects, and i restarted ubuntu, but still no effect.
[09:50] <duffyd> scguy318: no solution in there but hey others have reported the issue ;)
[09:51] <jtkiefer> pastebin|Jtkiefer
[09:51] <jtkiefer> !pastebin|jtkiefer
[09:53] <jtkiefer> I'm getting errors when trying to run the 6.06-6.10 upgrade, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39516/ has the entire error display
[09:53] <jtkiefer> and I had no better luck running the cd upgrade
[09:53] <jtkiefer> anyone have any ideas?
[09:54] <overclucker> jtkiefer: how set are you on upgrading, instead of getting a newer iso?
[09:54] <jtkiefer> overclucker, it's that bad is it?
[09:54] <Merijn> mrgenixus > how about autologin then?
[09:55] <jtkiefer> overclucker, nm then, I'll just stick with .06
[09:55] <overclucker> jtkiefer: just a question, but yes dist upgrades arer messy
[09:55] <overclucker> jtkiefer: why?
[09:55] <jtkiefer> I originally tried a clean install of 7.04 and it ended up turning out disasterously
[09:56] <jtkiefer> everythign that could go wrong did, wipe and reinstall, and something different went wrong, over and over
[09:56] <overclucker> jtkiefer: oh so you had a bad experience
[09:56] <curs0r> I'm in gutsy, I have sound when gdm show the login screen (i hear the drums) but when I log in there is no sound
[09:57] <curs0r> sound works in fluxbox but not gnome
[09:57] <jtkiefer> overclucker, almost made me long for xp
[09:58] <overclucker> jtkiefer: it isn't very hard to install safely
[09:59] <jtkiefer> overclucker, I know, and I did it by the book as it were using the graphical install, which makes me think that it may be caused by a hardware issue of some sort underlying it, all the more reason to leave it be for the moment since I currently have a working install
[09:59] <overclucker> jtkiefer: you just need to have the backups, and somthing like supergrub, or a grub boot disk
[10:00] <overclucker> jtkiefer: did the install produce error mesages?
[10:01] <shiznit> anyone try FSO on ubuntu?
[10:02] <aztracker1> FSO?
[10:03] <jtkiefer> overclucker, don't think so
[10:03] <overclucker> jtkiefer: it just didn't boot?
[10:04] <overclucker> cause it's not to terribly uncommon for grub install to fail
[10:05] <rzimek78> I have a hidden file and wanna change it not to be hidden. How to do this from the terminal?
[10:06] <Merijn> I put an extra harddrive in my computer, it's NTFS - how do I mount it?
[10:06] <overclucker> rzimek78: mv .filename filename
[10:06] <jtkiefer> overclucker, the clean 6.10 messages, one time it did actually boot but then it promptly crashed out when it tried to load x
[10:06] <scguy318> Merijn: read-write or ro?
[10:06] <jtkiefer> I'll probably eventually just try it again eventually but not for awhile
[10:06] <scguy318> Merijn: and mount on boot?
[10:06] <curs0r> I'm in gutsy, I have sound when gdm show the login screen (i hear the drums) but when I log in there is no sound mplayer has sound in fluxbox but not gnome
[10:06] <Merijn> scguy318 > ro
[10:06] <silviu> good morning
[10:07] <Merijn> mount on boot would be great
[10:07] <scguy318> !gutsy | curs0r
[10:07] <ubotu> curs0r: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[10:07] <scguy318> Merijn: for now, you can just do sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/here /mnt/point
[10:07] <rzimek78> ok
[10:07] <overclucker> jtkiefer: ah, well hopefully 7.10 will work, might want to install it on a free partition, just to be safe though
[10:07] <scguy318> Merijn: for the fstab, it would be
[10:07] <dgjones_> !ntfs | Merijn
[10:07] <ubotu> Merijn: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[10:07] <duffyd> temporarily offline. thanks
[10:07] <jtkiefer> who thinks of the names for the releases, they need to be hit over the the head with a heavy object
[10:08] <howlingmadhowie> tomato: i've done some research and linux doesn't like the suid bit being applied to bash scripts because of security problems. maybe ask in #bash how that is best done
[10:08] <Madpilot> jtkiefer, the next one will be called Horny Heifer. Honest. :)
[10:08] <aztracker1> where do I file a bug report re: gutsy beta's installer?
[10:08] <scguy318> !launchpad
[10:08] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[10:08] <scguy318> there
[10:08] <howlingmadhowie> Madpilot: almost. it's actually called hairy hardon, erm, i mean hardy heron
[10:08] <overclucker> rzimek78bat doing so changes the name of the file, and so isn't recommended for system, or config files
[10:09] <aztracker1> scguy318, thanks
[10:09] <Merijn> I think I mounted the drive in my home folder, but now I can't access my home folder anymore
[10:09] <Merijn> how do I unmount it?
[10:10] <overclucker> rzimek78: if it's in you $HOME folder, don't do it
[10:10] <scguy318> Merijn: sudo umount /mnt/point
[10:10] <scguy318> Merijn: mount to an empty mount point
[10:10] <Merijn> like what, /home/merijn/something?
[10:10] <overclucker> rzimek78: just view it by issuing ctrl-h under nautilus, or ls -a in terminal
[10:11] <scguy318> Merijn: sure
[10:11] <scguy318> Merijn: just make sure the mount point exists of course
[10:11] <Merijn> scguy318 > ok, it worked... now how do I make it so I can read it from a non-root account?
[10:11] <SoulChild> hey all,.... how do i change the background color of my desktop between gdm login and desktopbackground image. already changed in gdm config and background properties but still have this ubuntu red. any ideas ?
[10:12] <rzimek78> overclucker: mv .a a works :)
[10:12] <corporal_clegg> hello, is there any software that can translate text and pdf?
[10:12] <musikgoat> can anyone help with nfsd,  i have it running on the server (verified 2,3,4 running in rpcinfo -p), and i try to connect with the following fstab entry: 192.168.1.4:/mnt/disk1/ /media/link_nfs nfs rw,user,noauto 0 0    and I get this error:  mount.nfs: mount to NFS server '192.168.1.4' failed: RPC Error: Program not registered
[10:12] <scguy318> Merijn: well, you can mount it with umask=000, or use some other mount option to have it mount with you as owner
[10:12] <warfer> hello. can i ask what's a decent mailserver for beginners? thanks
[10:13] <scguy318> !mail
[10:13] <ubotu> mail is another medium to communicate. Ubuntu mailinglists can be found at http://lists.ubuntu.com
[10:13] <scguy318> !smtp
[10:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smtp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:13] <scguy318> blah
[10:13] <overclucker> rzimek78: where is this file or folder, it isn't system related is it?
[10:13] <scguy318> warfer: hold up
[10:13] <scguy318> warfer: Postfix is one
[10:13] <Merijn> like this? sudo mount -t ntfs umask=000 /dev/hdc5 ~/goliath
[10:14] <scguy318> with a comma, but yeah I think
[10:14] <aztracker1> fyi: for anyone installing gutsy on a clean HD... the livecd version seems to stop loading the partitioner at 53% if there isn't a normal partition on the drive...
[10:14] <scguy318> no
[10:14] <scguy318> sudo mount -t ntfs -o umask=000 /dev...
[10:14] <Merijn> ok
[10:14] <scguy318> that should be it
[10:15] <rzimek78> overclucker: no, it was a text file
[10:15] <Merijn> scguy318 > it worked, thanks a lot! :D
[10:15] <scguy318> Merijn: np
[10:16] <Crush`> how would i replace a character while it is being written to an external text file?
[10:17] <Snuxoll> Crush` [program stuff here]  | [sed command]  > [file] 
[10:18] <dgjones_> aztracker1, might be worth you mentioning that in ubuntu+1 where the gutsy support is going on, although not sure if its a gutsy thing, I had a similar thing with Fiesty with the alternate cd not being able to create partitions on a brand new drive, I had to use a gparted cd to partition then install using those partitions
[10:19] <Crush`> i'm not all that great with sed
[10:19] <Snuxoll> s/great/bad
[10:20] <Snuxoll> See, not hard
[10:20] <Snuxoll> http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/Sed.html will help you
[10:20] <motio> hi i am trying ti run googleearth and i get the error  Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0". any help
[10:20] <arnath> i can't get my hdmi screen to work at anything above 640x480 (and the top & bottom bar are partly off the screen)
[10:21] <warfer> Crush`, or use proggie | tr string newstring
[10:21] <Snuxoll> motio: What video card do you have?
[10:21] <motio> ati card
[10:22] <crdlb> motio, that's because you're in Xgl
[10:22] <crdlb> put DISPLAY=:0    in front of whatever you're running
[10:22] <crdlb> so DISPLAY=:0 /path/to/googleearth
[10:22] <Snuxoll> Makes me glad my ati card runs AIGLX...
[10:23] <guitarist> what can i use as telnet on ubuntu?
[10:24] <cl3ns> guitarist: telnet server or telnet client ?
[10:24] <guitarist> telnet server i think, to make an egg
[10:25] <guitarist> cl3ns
[10:25] <Crush`> Snuxoll: thanks :-)
[10:25] <cl3ns> telnetd
[10:25] <cl3ns> guitarist: apt-cache search telnetd
[10:26] <motio> crdlb i put display in front and dont work
[10:26] <guitarist> how can i reach that cl3ns? sorry im newbie
[10:26] <Woet> How do i show my workspaces on a cube? I checked the box in desktop effects, and i restarted ubuntu, but still no effect.
[10:27] <Snuxoll> Woet: Make sure you have four workspaces...
[10:27] <cl3ns> apt-get install telnetd and after check man telnetd
[10:27] <Woet> oh
[10:27] <cl3ns> Provides: telnet-server
[10:27] <Snuxoll> Woet: Then disable it and re-enable it
[10:27] <Woet> ok
[10:28] <Snuxoll> I had the same problem, always found it annoying...
[10:29] <bimmerman1911> does anybody use gtkpod? i upgraded it, and now i cant figure out why i cant add songs to "local"...
[10:29] <despotic> any gurus around this evening?
[10:30] <guitarist> cl3ns: i tried apt-get install telnetd but i get error called couldnt open ( 13 permission denied ) and asks if im root
[10:30] <arnath> when i boot it wiv my vga (and i dont even want a vga), the refresh rate is out of range, when i boot it with my hdmi (the one i want), i cant set the resolution higher then 640x480
[10:30] <steve_j> morning all. would somoene mind recommending a decent web stats package that displays results via apache?
[10:30] <motio> hi i am trying ti run googleearth and i get the error  Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0". any help
[10:30] <cl3ns> guitarist: sudo apt-get install telnetd
[10:30] <bimmerman1911> nobody uses gtkpod?
[10:30] <arnath> anyone have any experience with trying to get a hdmi to work correctly?
[10:31] <fama_> hi
[10:31] <scguy318> arnath: no
[10:31] <despotic> is there a channel for more sound oriented issues?
[10:31] <scguy318> arnath: I would look around for info on that
[10:32] <arnath> scguy318: i have....
[10:32] <fama_> when i have installed i linux before and want to add ubunut as a 2nd system, what do i have to do during install?
[10:32] <guitarist> cl3ns: done now thanks last question, will i access that from terminal?
[10:32] <fama_> im now in partition menu
[10:32] <scguy318> amath: as for monitor issue, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[10:32] <arnath> scguy318: i have done that many a time (without the -phigh though)
[10:32] <NetGear> hi all
[10:32] <arnath> scguy318: what does the -phigh do?
[10:32] <fama_> and the mount point from my old linux is getting from "/" to "/media/sda3"
[10:32] <EXP2> in ubuntu, is it possible to deny user to change his/hers password?
[10:33] <bSakiplayoy> hi leute
[10:33] <NetGear> i am installing beryl
[10:33] <bSakiplayoy> ich bin saki
[10:33] <ferronica> when i do "sudo pppoeconf" it shows me multi modem what this mean ?
[10:33] <NetGear> i get messag checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[10:33] <NetGear> can amy one help
[10:33] <Snuxoll> EXP2: Probably not without hacking some pam config files....
[10:34] <NetGear> i get messag checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[10:34] <motio> quit
[10:35] <NetGear> defDfloyd, hi
[10:35] <guitarist> cl3ns: done now thanks last question, will i access that from terminal?
[10:35] <arnath> o ffs :| my windows are spawning outside my screen
[10:35] <scguy318> arnath: only asks for important options
[10:35] <arnath> how do i move them?
[10:35] <TIX3> NetGear, maybe xml needs perl module?
[10:35] <despotic> is there a way to completely reinstall my sound card?
[10:36] <ferronica> i am using  UT star (Model NO. UT 300RTU)
[10:36] <defDfloyd> hi NetGear :)
[10:36] <TIX3> despotic, remake the kernel
[10:37] <despotic> oh ya? Is that as scary as it sounds?
[10:37] <NetGear> TIX3, how do i install that module
[10:37] <NetGear> defDfloyd,  messag checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[10:37] <scguy318> arnath: move what?
[10:37] <ferronica> what is multimodem mode ?
[10:38] <NetGear> defDfloyd, what should i do?
[10:38] <scguy318> ferronica: do you mean multimonitor?
[10:38] <cl3ns> guitarist: no idea never use it :)
[10:38] <ferronica> scguy318: no
[10:38] <ferronica> scguy318: modem
[10:38] <defDfloyd> NetGear: sorry don't know that ... i'm a newbie myself ;)
[10:39] <ferronica> scguy318:  "sudo pppoeconf" it shows me multi modem what this mean ?
[10:39] <guitarist> cl3ns: :) thanks anyway
[10:39] <guitarist> can anyone tell me how to use/reach telnetd after installing that?
[10:39] <arnath> for some reason, all my windows are missing the top bar
[10:40] <gangstersaki> hi
[10:40] <gangstersaki> my name is saki
[10:40] <gangstersaki> i have a problem
[10:40] <gangstersaki> someone help pls
[10:40] <dgjones_> !ask | gangster
[10:40] <ubotu> gangster: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:40] <Mortice> !ask > gangstersaki
[10:41] <gangstersaki> ok
[10:41] <gangstersaki> my probem is
[10:41] <gangstersaki> i have
[10:41] <gangstersaki> a very small
[10:41] <dgjones_> !enter | gangstersaki
[10:41] <ubotu> gangstersaki: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:41] <gangstersaki> harddrive
[10:41] <ferronica> Sorry, I scanned 1 interface, but the Access             
[10:41] <ferronica>            Concentrator of your provider did not respond. Please    
[10:41] <ferronica>            check your network and modem cables. Another reason      
[10:41] <ferronica>            for the scan failure may also be another running pppoe   
[10:41] <ferronica>            process which controls the modem.
[10:41] <gangstersaki> only 5 gb
[10:41] <Mortice> !paste | ferronica
[10:41] <ubotu> ferronica: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:41] <gangstersaki> wwill ubuntu install on it
[10:41] <ferronica> oh my god sorry
[10:41] <gangstersaki> can i install ubuntu on a 5gb harddrive
[10:41] <Mortice> ferronica: heh. it wasn't too long. Just for future reference :)
[10:42] <ferronica> i hurry i did that :(
[10:42] <TIX3> NetGear, you could try sudo apt-get install libxml-parser-perl, but since im not currently on a debian distro, i can't say for sure
[10:42] <ferronica> can any one explain what this error mean ?
[10:43] <scguy318> gangstersaki: sure
[10:43] <dgjones_> gangstersaki, it will probably install ok, but its going to be tight - Have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements, minimum is 2Gb, but recommended is 8Gb
[10:44] <degreseven> im trying to use gparted from the livecd to resize a partition, but ubuntu keeps auto mounting the partition in the middle of the resize. how can i disable the automounter?
[10:45] <acuster> hey all, is there any program to find UTF-8 characters in text files?
[10:45] <teKnofreak> acuster, find or view ?
[10:46] <landon_> cananyone remote assit me installing compiz on my virtual machine
[10:46] <acuster> find
[10:46] <acuster> i suspect it's some spurious character somewhere in the file
[10:47] <ePax> I installed kde-desktop on Feisty and does it mean that i run now Kubuntu instead of Ubuntu or?
[10:48] <ferronica> how to remove previous Lancard info from ubuntu 7.04
[10:48] <NetGear> TIX3, now i get message
[10:48] <NetGear> TIX3, checking for bind_textdomain_codeset... yes
[10:48] <NetGear> checking for msgfmt... no
[10:48] <NetGear> checking whether byte ordering is bigendian... no
[10:48] <NetGear> checking for pkg-config... no
[10:48] <NetGear> checking for COMAN... configure: error: The pkg-config script could not be found or is too old.  Make sure it
[10:48] <NetGear> is in your PATH or set the PKG_CONFIG environment variable to the full
[10:48] <NetGear> path to pkg-config.
[10:48] <ferronica> previous one is D-Link ,current Realtek
[10:49] <ferronica> eth0= D-Link ,eth1= Realtek
[10:50] <scguy318> NetGear: sudo apt-get install pkg-config?
[10:50] <scguy318> NetGear: i mean
[10:50] <scguy318> well, eah
[10:50] <scguy318> try that
[10:52] <despotic> Does someone here use SPDIF output on their soundcard?
[10:53] <despotic> should my system be able to auto-detect the optical outpu on my soundcard?
[10:54] <scguy318> despotic: well, there might be a mixer setting for that
[10:57] <arnath> man, i've had it bout up to here with ubuntu, how friggin hard is it to make a screen work :@
[10:57] <Sorcererbob> trying to work dual screens?
[10:57] <arnath> even single screen won't work well
[10:57] <Sorcererbob> how old is the screen?
[10:58] <arnath> very new
[10:58] <arnath> LG tft tv
[10:58] <arnath> via hdmi
[10:58] <Sorcererbob> other screens work or not?
[10:58] <jdecoste> what the package name again for the gcc/c++ compiler ?
[10:58] <jdecoste> and the headers and stuff
[10:58] <arnath> my old crt monitor works
[10:58] <Sorcererbob> oh, is the image just all cramped and ugly looking?
[10:58] <Sorcererbob> cause TVs generally have crappy resolutions and... well, they suck as monitors
[10:58] <arnath> no, this is a tv meant also as computer monitor
[10:59] <Sorcererbob> but is the picture just cramped/stretched looking?
[10:59] <arnath> the problem is i simply can't get the resolution above 640x480
[10:59] <scguy318> jdecoste: build-essential
[10:59] <arnath> it "looks" great, the resolution is just crap
[10:59] <arnath> (and the top & bottom bar are partly off the screen)
[10:59] <Sorcererbob> drivers then?
[10:59] <arnath> just installed latest
[10:59] <jdecoste> scguy318: thx alot scguy318 ;)
[10:59] <scguy318> arnath: have you tried doing: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, then editing the Horiz/Vert ranges?
[10:59] <scguy318> jdecoste: np
[10:59] <Sorcererbob> is the TV 4:3 or 16:9?
[10:59] <arnath> scguy318: in one of the previous installations, ye
[11:00] <arnath> Sorcererbob: widescreen
[11:00] <Sorcererbob> do your drivers support widescreen?
[11:00] <arnath> scguy318: ive installed like 3 or 4 times now and i'm about to do it again as its fatally f***ed
[11:00] <arnath> they should
[11:00] <arnath> its the nvidia 8600gts
[11:00] <tekhawk> anyone know of check reqister/bank account managment software something like quickbook quicken kmymoney ect for gnome
[11:00] <aantipop> if i insert a usb-stick on a machine where the live-cd runs, will i have write access to the usb stick ?
[11:01] <Sorcererbob> aantipop: FAT? yes. NTFS? no.
[11:01] <Sorcererbob> arnath... um... thinking
[11:01] <scguy318> aantipop: if you have ntfs-3g installed, then yes for the latter
[11:01] <vitaly> Sorry if I ask question from FAQ. Today when I upgrade kubuntu 6.06 Adept crash with error 11 (SIGSEGV). So I can't start it and update anything else. I found this bug in bug list but can't solve the problem.
[11:01] <aantipop> Sorcererbob, is it mounted not read-only ?
[11:01] <aantipop> i think latest ubuntu has ntfs-3g out of the box ?
[11:02] <dino_> aantipop: yep
[11:02] <Sorcererbob> aantipop: ubuntu doesn't support writing to NTFS partitions natively. As scguy318 said, you need NTFS-3g
[11:02] <Sorcererbob> FAT will work fine
[11:02] <dino_> no write, you can read out of the box
[11:02] <aantipop> ok
[11:02] <cow2001> my firefox won't show which hyperlink was already clicked
[11:02] <Sorcererbob> arnath: have you check: you have the restricted drivers activated and you're changing res through nvidia-settings?
[11:02] <cow2001> anyone aware of this problem?
[11:03] <arnath> Sorcererbob: yes restricted drivers and yes nvidia-settings
[11:03] <arnath> Sorcererbob: though atm im trying 7.10 and also tried the screens & something way
[11:03] <arnath> but that fatally ruined it :|
[11:03] <dino_> Anyone know why there arent any restricted drivers for my ati radeon hd2400?
[11:03] <Sorcererbob> are you doing anything silly like trying to run beryl/compiz over it?
[11:04] <arnath> Sorcererbob: in 7.10 its automatically on ye?
[11:04] <Sorcererbob> oh. yeah, sorry.
[11:04] <arnath> in 7.4 i didnt try to run beryl/compiz
[11:04] <Sorcererbob> try disabling it.
[11:04] <arnath> actually
[11:04] <arnath> it seems to have disabled itself
[11:04] <Sorcererbob> try forcing the res in xorg,conf?
[11:04] <kane77> cow2001, on no pages? sometimes people overwrite the defaults...
[11:04] <Sorcererbob> (make sure to cp xorg.conf xorgbackup.conf first)
[11:05] <Jordan_U> arnath, If it has disabled itself then your drivers are probably not configured properly
[11:05] <arnath> with only my tv in, and the xorg.conf listing the resolutions, still doesn't allow me to change it
[11:05] <Jordan_U> arnath, check "glxinfo"
[11:05] <arnath> Jordan_U: it worked at first (with the drivers), but then i was messing around with nvidia-settings and the 7.10 way of doing the screens
[11:05] <arnath> and somewhere along the line it turned itself off, not sure why
[11:05] <cow2001> kane77, i know. i just noticed father changed many widgets in the task bars
[11:05] <arnath> but anyway, im doing a reinstall atm
[11:05] <aantipop> ntfs-3g is installed by default in gutsy
[11:06] <Jordan_U> arnath, You should be asking about this in #ubuntu+1 also
[11:06] <cow2001> kane77, he's doing stuff without even realising it.
[11:06] <arnath> Jordan_U: i have...many times
[11:06] <cow2001> kane77, changing stuff
[11:06] <tekhawk> anyone know accounting software option for ubuntu
[11:06] <Sorcererbob> is ubuntu+1 the support channel for 7.10?
[11:06] <arnath> Jordan_U: they aren't too forthcoming
[11:06] <ruinyourlife> I think i have been wrongfully blocked username theworldssaddest homepage www.lemonparty.org
[11:06] <rob> sigh
[11:06] <ruinyourlife> lulz
[11:06] <Jordan_U> arnath, You are running Beta software, you really expect support for it ? :)
[11:06] <ruinyourlife> im really bored
[11:07] <arnath> Jordan_U: i tried like 2 or 3 installs of 7.4 first
[11:07] <rob> ruinyourlife, don't do that again
[11:07] <ruinyourlife> lol
[11:07] <arnath> Jordan_U: i couldn't get it to work there, so i guessed i would try 7.10 since it has improved monitor support
[11:07] <kane77> tekhawk, do you mean personal or some kind of professional?
[11:08] <Jordan_U> arnath, If you are going to use the Ubuntu tools don't use nvidia-settings, try deleting your xorg.conf and restart X
[11:08] <HuricaneHarry> dino_: restricted is just a licence type. I could have contained the drivers made by ATI.
[11:08] <arnath> Jordan_U: also, after using the ubuntu tools, xrandr (or something) wouldn't work anymore
[11:08] <arnath> kept crashing on login
[11:08] <dino_> HuricaneHarry: dont know what you mean, but can i get beryl/compiz to work? :)
[11:08] <guitarist> I installed putty to my ubuntu but dont know how and where to reach that? does anyone know about tht
[11:08] <dino_> btw, is hd(mi) supported in linux?
[11:09] <arnath> dino_: apparantly not
[11:09] <ech0dish> you should just buy a refurbished ubuntu pc from me instead, http://stores.ebay.com/Houston-CompCycle
[11:09] <arnath> dino_: im having massive problems
[11:09] <dino_> arcade: i've read that it's not supported, Yet
[11:09] <Jordan_U> arnath, Again, move your xorg.conf ( rename it ) so it won't be used then restart X, it will then have you reconfigure X again and I am guessing it will work as long as you don't use nvidia-settings
[11:09] <arnath> Jordan_U: will try that once its reinstalled
[11:10] <guitarist> I installed putty to my ubuntu but dont know how and where to reach that? does anyone know about tht
[11:10] <Mortice> guitarist: why install putty? ubuntu comes with all the tools putty requires.
[11:10] <Jordan_U> arnath, If you are re-installing then there is no need, just install the nvidia drivers with Restricted Manager and don't use nvidia-settings, and if it doesn't work then please file a bug report
[11:10] <ech0dish> lol putty
[11:11] <Mortice> guitarist: sorry, I mean "putty provides", not "putty requires"
[11:11] <gerst> alt+f2 putty ?
[11:11] <arnath> Jordan_U: ok (where exactly do i file the bug report?)
[11:11] <Jordan_U> guitarist, open a terminal and use ssh
[11:11] <Jordan_U> !bugs | arnath
[11:11] <ubotu> arnath: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[11:11] <ech0dish> ssh 111.111.111.111
[11:11] <arnath> k
[11:11] <guitarist> Mortice: and Jordan_U i want to make my own server and make an egg, i thought the best way is putty, do you any idea else
[11:12] <gerst> putty is ok
[11:12] <gerst> apt-get install putty
[11:12] <Jordan_U> guitarist, Putty is an ssh client, linux has a built in ssh client, it's called ssh :)
[11:12] <gerst> then Applications-Internet-putty
[11:12] <hangthedj> OpenSSH, a Openbsd port
[11:12] <hangthedj> :p
[11:13] <guitarist> gerst: installed now thanks
[11:13] <Jordan_U> !ssh | guitarist
[11:13] <guitarist> Jordan_U: can you tell me how to reach ssh to make my own shell?
[11:13] <ubotu> guitarist: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[11:13] <guitarist> oh thnks
[11:13] <ech0dish> you should just wine putty.exe
[11:13] <HuricaneHarry> dino_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsAti
[11:13] <ech0dish> haha...
[11:14] <ikonia> ech0dish putty exists on linux, and in ubuntu repos
[11:14] <dino_> HuricaneHarry: none of the HD cards are even mentioned
[11:14] <Jordan_U> ikonia, Yea, but why would you use it?
[11:14] <ech0dish> sarcasm
[11:15] <dino_> HuricaneHarry: and i've heard rumors of hd26000 can run compiz...
[11:15] <ikonia> Jordan_U ues of the putty keygen tools, the pagent, I wouldn't use it but some do
[11:15] <HuricaneHarry> dino_ : dont go on rumors, check your info.
[11:16] <cow2001> how do i revert to defaults in firefox?
[11:16] <ikonia> cow2001 what defaults ?
[11:17] <cow2001> everything
[11:17] <HuricaneHarry> dino_ : If a card is not mentioned it doesnt mean it doesnt work, its just not supported (yet)
[11:17] <gerst> just delete your mozilla/firefox folder
[11:17] <ikonia> cow2001 like what ?
[11:17] <gerst> under home
[11:17] <cow2001> ikonia, like hyperlink colours
[11:17] <ikonia> cow2001 gerst had an easy option, delete your .mozzila fold in your home dir
[11:18] <cow2001> ikonia, then i'd have to install and set everything in firefox again
[11:18] <gerst> thats your default firefox config
[11:18] <ikonia> cow2001 then change all the settings back by hand
[11:19] <cow2001> it's a shame i can't choose a bulk of variables in about:config and then choose revert
[11:19] <ikonia> cow2001 not really
[11:19] <cow2001> why not?
[11:19] <HuricaneHarry> cow2001: optinaly move ~/.firefox out of the way... ( so you can place it back )
[11:20] <ikonia> most people don't want that specific need
[11:20] <TheSkorm> !porn > TheSkorm
[11:20] <cow2001> democracy sucks ;(
[11:21] <TheSkorm> cow2001: http://www.tysknews.com/LiteStuff/cow_politics.htm
[11:21] <dino_> HuricaneHarry: not supported yet, i like that. you could have told me that right away..... i only need the hope
[11:21] <Sorcererbob> go team communism
[11:22] <cow2001> go team accelerationists
[11:22] <HuricaneHarry> cow2001: Ive never done this, but maybe "diff" 2 .firefox dirs ?
[11:22] <cow2001> HuricaneHarry, oh boy
[11:23] <cow2001> TheSkorm, :)
[11:23] <HuricaneHarry> dino_ : I could have told you right away, then you would have learned nothing, now you know where to find information.
[11:23] <NetGear> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:23] <NetGear>   xserver-xorg-video-vmware: Depends: xserver-xorg-core (>= 2:1.4) but 2:1.1.1-21 is to be installed
[11:23] <NetGear> E: Broken packages
[11:23] <NetGear> help help
[11:24] <TheSkorm> What NetGear ?
[11:24] <TheSkorm> Broken leg?
[11:24] <TheSkorm> ar> help help
[11:24] <TheSkorm> 19:24:26 < TheSkorm> What NetGear ?
[11:24] <TheSkorm> ops
[11:24] <TheSkorm> silly drag and drop
[11:25] <TheSkorm> Want me to get a doctor
[11:25] <NetGear> TheSkorm, i am installing vmware i got this message?
[11:25] <arnath> Jordan_U: now beryl/compiz is working again, but its not detecting my second screen at all (the ubuntu tools)
[11:26] <Jordan_U> arnath, File a bug
[11:26] <Javid> My 802.11 card seems to have randomly stopped working. The only thing I can think of having done to cause this was a dpkg-reconfigure wireshark. I attempted removal of the driver and loading it into ndiswrapper again, with no luck.
[11:26] <Javid> It has a green and yellow light, and normally they both blink, now just the green one does
[11:27] <animimotus> hello
[11:27] <GreyWolfe> Hi, I was wondering how Ubuntu would handle being copied to another blank HD, and how I would go about doing that.
[11:27] <scguy318> GreyWolfe: dd
[11:27] <Javid> My next step will be an examination of the pcmcia port, for bent pins
[11:28] <GreyWolfe> scguy318: ?
[11:28] <dgjones_> !backup | GreyWolfe
[11:28] <ubotu> GreyWolfe: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[11:28] <scguy318> GreyWolfe: the dd command is probably what u want
[11:28] <NetGear> i got the folloling errror iam installing vmware
[11:28] <NetGear>   xserver-xorg-video-vmware: Depends: xserver-xorg-core (>= 2:1.4) but 2:1.1.1-21 is to be installed
[11:28] <lavender> semarang
[11:29] <ikonia> NetGear your xorg dependencies for vmware are not met
[11:29] <NetGear> ikonia, how can i fullfill it ?
[11:29] <hgjjjf> is there any coders/programers in here?
[11:30] <ikonia> NetGear either find the dependencies, which I doubt exist at the moment as it looks like your using a gusty version, or downgrade vmware to a version with less dependencies
[11:30] <GreyWolfe> scguy318: All I am really trying to do is re-install Windows on my main drive, and I have heard Windows isn't a fan of booting from anything other than the mrimary drive. Would it be easier to just re-install Ubuntu, as I have not done all that much to it, and the new version is coming out this month anyways
[11:30] <ikonia> hgjjjf: for what ?
[11:31] <ikonia> GreyWolfe if you can live without it, hang on for a week or so for the 18th
[11:31] <hgjjjf> ikonia, im looking for coder/programer that can show me some simple thngs to do
[11:31] <NetGear> ikonia, i am using apt-get install vmware?
[11:31] <ikonia> hgjjjf in what languages ? join a channel for the appropiate language you want to learn
[11:31] <animimotus> why a: gunzip file.dat.gz delete the file just after the decompress?
[11:32] <ikonia> NetGear what distro
[11:32] <teKnofreak> does any one has any idea of where to send entries for debian package of the day ?? the contribute page is down!
[11:32] <GreyWolfe> ikonia: That is what I am thinking about.
[11:32] <hgjjjf> ikonia,  what u mean language like english?
[11:32] <NetGear> ikonia, debain 4.0
[11:32] <scguy318> hgjjjf: he means programming language
[11:32] <ikonia> hgjjjf no like php, c++ etc etc
[11:32] <animimotus> it's really amazing, I have read the man gunzip...
[11:33] <hgjjjf> thnks scguy318  and ikonia
[11:33] <cary_> Hi all
[11:34] <Nikster> hey, i have an issue with my GeForce 2, when i try to play a game that uses OpenGL i get this message: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"., ive used Envy to get the newest drivers, and set load glx and dri in xorg.conf. Anyone got a clue?
[11:35] <l3mr> is there a simple way to install ubuntu so that it uses a swapfile instead of a swap partition?
[11:35] <ikonia> l3mr not really
[11:36] <cbo> does someone know how to look which devices are created when pluggin an usb hardware?
[11:37] <Sorcererbob> you could compare the /dev folder before and after, couldn't you?
[11:37] <Sorcererbob> thats not too hard
[11:37] <HuricaneHarry> cbo: lsusb
[11:37] <ikonia> cbo: syslog shows you
[11:38] <ikonia> HuricaneHarry: won't show you the /dev node
[11:38] <cbo> Sorcererbob: thats what i was trying to do
[11:38] <teKnofreak> HuricaneHarry, +1
[11:38] <cbo> ikonia: you mean dmesg?
[11:38] <ikonia> no, I mean the syslog
[11:39] <cbo> ikonia: how do i do that please?
[11:39] <teKnofreak> cbo, locate syslog
[11:39] <ikonia> cbo open /var/log/messages
[11:39] <cbo> ok
[11:40] <scguy318> cbo: tail -f /var/log/messages
[11:40] <cbo> ikonia: ok that is what i was looking for, thanks a lot
[11:41] <cbo> scguy318: thanks
[11:41] <c4rc4b0t> what this channel ubuntu in spanish - help pllzz
[11:41] <gnomefreak> c4rc4b0t: #ubuntu-es
[11:41] <c4rc4b0t> thnx man
[11:41] <gnomefreak> np
[11:42] <arnath> waw amazing :|
[11:42] <arnath> i delete xorg.conf to reset the xorg thing and now my login doesn't work anymore in X
[11:42] <arnath> (it does in console)
[11:42] <Sorcererbob> lol
[11:43] <Sorcererbob> you shoulnd't delete it
[11:43] <Sorcererbob> you may recall me saying to copy it
[11:43] <arnath> ay
[11:43] <arnath> i have a backup somewhere
[11:43] <arnath> but it doesnt matter
[11:43] <arnath> its way screwed again
[11:43] <arnath> i used the ubuntu tools first, but they didnt even detect my second screen
[11:43] <bobsomebody> i keep getting banned from this room when im not here
[11:43] <ikonia> bobsomebody whats the problem
[11:43] <arnath> so had to use nvidia-settings again
[11:43] <bobsomebody> and im not dhcp
[11:43] <arnath> which in turn led to the xrandr (or something) thingy crashing on login
[11:43] <Sorcererbob> you should do "sudo cp xorg.conf xorgbackup.conf" before screwing with it.  Then if you're forced to go to command line, you can just cp it back
[11:43] <ikonia> bobsomebody probably for away messages or constant reconnects, ask in #ubuntu-ops
[11:44] <bobsomebody> ok
[11:44] <teKnofreak> bobsomebody, check your away messages, turn it off it isnt
[11:44] <teKnofreak> if it isnt*
[11:44] <arnath> Sorcererbob: i give up, i'm just gonna go with the crt
[11:44] <Sorcererbob> so if you fuck it up, you can do "sudo rm xorg.conf" "sudo cp xorgbackup.conf xorg.conf" then reboot
[11:44] <Sorcererbob> thats the spirit :D
[11:45] <arnath> ye
[11:45] <arnath> pay a kadzillion euro's for a kickass screen
[11:45] <arnath> then not being able to use it
[11:45] <bobsomebody> teKnofreak, thats it?
[11:45] <arnath> good spirit
[11:45] <teKnofreak> bobsomebody, check after doing that, if you still get banned ask in #ubuntu-ops
[11:46] <bobsomebody> i dont use away though, i live online
[11:46] <ePax> I installed kde-desktop on Feisty does it mean that i run now Kubuntu instead of Ubuntu or?
[11:46] <bobsomebody> im worried someone is parading around in here with my nick being a jackhole
[11:46] <teKnofreak> ePax, you still run Ubuntu
[11:46] <hamono_> hello everybody
[11:46] <jonah> hi has anyone used reconstructor before, i'm having trouble understanding what to do with the modules, my iso is 702 so wont fit on cd, how do i remove some apps i don't need
[11:46] <ePax> teKnofreak: Oki
[11:46] <bobsomebody> or im doing something and just not getting the hint
[11:46] <arnath> o ffs, now theres a problem wiv the dhcp network
[11:47] <ikonia> bobsomebody ask in #ubuntu-ops
[11:47] <Sorcererbob> bobsomebody: is the ban on bobsomebody*@* ? or is it your hostmask?
[11:47] <bobsomebody> dunno
[11:47] <bobsomebody> just says ur banned
[11:47] <Sorcererbob> try changing your name
[11:47] <hamono_> i want to install beryl and i have tar files
[11:47] <darkchr0n0s> wait for 24 hours
[11:47] <teKnofreak> bobsomebody, is you are using an IRC client, then try logging in from command line client and check
[11:47] <teKnofreak> s/is/if
[11:47] <Sorcererbob> if you're still banned after that, then you're probably right and someone is being an arse with your name
[11:47] <ePax> teKnofreak: Why do i get kubuntu startpage when i start mozilla? I use to get ubuntu startpage.
[11:47] <ikonia> Sorcererbob don't get people to dodge a ban
[11:47] <bobsomebody> Sorcererbob, i will be sure to check that next time
[11:47] <ikonia> bobsomebody just ask in #ubuntu-ops
[11:48] <teKnofreak> ePax, kubuntu-desktop resets it, check whether its running kdm or gdm
[11:48] <bobsomebody> ikonia, i am asking there also
[11:48] <ikonia> bobsomebody great, so clam down and wait for a response
[11:48] <teKnofreak> ePax, hopefully it would reset the splash screen as well ;)
[11:48] <Sorcererbob> its not dodging a ban really. A true ban requires a proxy to circumvent
[11:48] <ikonia> Sorcererbob changing nicknames is a possible way to dodge ban, I'm asking Sorcererbob to not suggest ban dodging, just ask in #ubuntu-ops and await a response
[11:49] <ePax> teKnofreak: Yes it did. (;
[11:49] <Sorcererbob> eg. Is it dodging a ban if some idiot bans *b*@* and then everyone with a b in their name changes it so they can join?
[11:49] <ikonia> Sorcererbob: sorry that was meant for bobsomebody
[11:49] <gridphreak> I just installed the fglrx driver, and now whenever I start a game, my system crashes to the gdm login screen... anyway to fix this?
[11:49] <ikonia> Sorcererbob yes it is
[11:49] <Sorcererbob> fair enough
[11:49] <bobsomebody> ikonia, lol, i almost wtf'ed u :P
[11:51] <acomaco> i get line 74: arch: command not found..anyone know how to get it?
[11:52] <ikonia> acomaco: what are you doing ?
[11:52] <ikonia> acomaco: trying to build some software ?
[11:52] <acomaco> starting Xampp ..
[11:52] <ikonia> really, hmm
[11:52] <leon828> salve
[11:52] <Sorcererbob> dependencies not fulled?
[11:52] <leon828> !list
[11:52] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:52] <Sorcererbob> filled *
[11:52] <acomaco> idk..i don't have arch i think..
[11:53] <acomaco> can't find it on APT
[11:53] <Lunz> how to edit my xconf file from the command line?
[11:53] <Sorcererbob> is there a command for checking a filling dependencies?
[11:53] <Lunz> i cant start gdm please help..
[11:53] <ikonia> acomaco its in linux-util
[11:53] <Sorcererbob> Lunz: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:53] <Sorcererbob> I think
[11:53] <ikonia> acomaco its depreiciated
[11:53] <bobsomebody> Lunz, did it crash?
[11:53] <acomaco> I have linux-util..
[11:54] <bobsomebody> did Gnome crash i mean?
[11:54] <Lunz> yeah..it crash
[11:54] <ikonia> acomaco what version, its depriciated post 2.13
[11:54] <Lunz> just now i was on ubuntu..now i am on windows again..
[11:55] <Lunz> crash because i did some modification on the xconf file,guider by scguy318..
[11:55] <bobsomebody> Lunz use nano to edit it
[11:55] <TheSkorm> in gnome pree alt+f2 then type free the fish
[11:55] <bobsomebody> sudo nano /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[11:55] <Lunz> how?i am a newbie here
[11:55] <Sorcererbob> yeah, before screwing with xorg stuff you should (as I said earlier) ' sudo cp xorg.conf xorgbackup.conf ' that way, when you screw it up you can ' sudo rm xorg.conf ' then 'sudo cp xorgbackup.conf xorg.conf '
[11:55] <Lunz> hold on i copy it..
[11:55] <bobsomebody> Lunz, re my last
[11:56] <Sorcererbob> its a bit late if its already crashed
[11:56] <Lunz> i dont have backup?what should i do?
[11:56] <Lunz> but i can remember what i edited..
[11:56] <bobsomebody> Lunz, oh.....
[11:57] <ikonia> Lunz do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserverx-xorg" answer the questions and you should get a working xorg.conf - then take a backup
[11:57] <bobsomebody> Lunz, what kind of message did you get when it crashed? or did you panic and cancel out?
[11:57] <acomaco> or wait i don'
[11:57] <acomaco> dont have it ..
[11:57] <Lunz> hmm...wait
[11:57] <ikonia> Lunz do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserverx-xorg" answer the questions and you should get a working xorg.conf - then take a backup
[11:58] <ikonia> Lunz: that should read "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:58] <Lunz> there no screen specify..
[11:58] <ikonia> Lunz: boot into resuce mode from the boot menu
[11:58] <ikonia> run that command when you are logged in
[11:59] <Lunz> cant boot into rescue mode too
[11:59] <ikonia> Lunz: why not ?
[11:59] <Lunz> it wont start the gdm..
[12:00] <Lunz> already answered the question but..nothing happened
[12:00] <ikonia> Lunz answered what questions
[12:00] <Lunz> in the rescue mode
[12:00] <hamono_> i want to install beryl and i have tar files
[12:00] <ikonia> Lunz you just siad you can't boot it, so how did you answer "questions"
[12:00] <ikonia> hamono_ unwise
[12:01] <Lunz> ok..
[12:01] <Lunz> wait..
[12:01] <Sorcererbob> just use apt-get
[12:01] <hamono_> how i can
[12:01] <elitepanda> how do i list running programs again?
[12:01] <Sorcererbob> elitepanda: top
[12:02] <Lunz> i just cant boot normally and xserver is crash due to modification at the monitor section..
[12:02] <ikonia> Lunz we know this
 how can ido that
[12:02] <Lunz> i just want to edit back the xcon file back to its original..
[12:02] <Sorcererbob> well, if you know what has to be changed you can just "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.cong" can't you?
[12:02] <Sorcererbob> hamono google knows
[12:02] <Lunz> ok
[12:03] <elitepanda> thanks, how about looking for a specifc task?
[12:03] <Lunz> cong or conf?
[12:03] <Sorcererbob> conf
[12:03] <Sorcererbob> sorry
[12:03] <Lunz> o thank
[12:03] <ikonia> Lunz boot into safe mode - and do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" answer the on screen questions and you'll get a working xorg.conf
[12:03] <TheSkorm> elitepanda: in gnome pree alt+f2 then type free the fish
[12:03] <Lunz> ikonia: it doesnt work
[12:03] <elitepanda> i use fvwm, don't have gnome
[12:03] <Lunz> already try that
[12:03] <debian> 
[12:03] <overclucker> oh, heh, moo
[12:03] <ikonia> Lunz what does, start being specific
[12:03] <heguru> !cn | debian
[12:03] <ubotu> debian: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[12:04] <debian> sorry
[12:04] <Lunz> i am off..booting to ubuntu now...
[12:04] <elitepanda> thing is there's supposed to be a program hogging a port, I wanna know which is it and how to kill it
[12:04] <Lunz> wish me luck guys..
[12:04] <ikonia> elitepanda netstat -a | grep LIST see whats listening
[12:04] <heguru> elitepanda: netstat -npl | grep [portnum] 
[12:05] <TheSkorm> elitepanda: netstat -tunap
[12:05] <Sorcererbob> then you can use top to identify which PID it is and then just kill PID (there is probably a faster way though)
[12:05] <ikonia> Sorcererbob how can he see what program is listening on what port using top
[12:05] <Maxtor> Hello, i just installed Ubuntu and this is the first time im using linux, but the problem is my notebook videocard isnt installed, so i got the drivers but my question is how can i install them?
[12:05] <Sorcererbob> nar, use top to find the PID
[12:06] <Sorcererbob> he originally asked how to get a list of running processes
[12:06] <ikonia> Maxtor what video card
[12:06] <ikonia> Sorcererbob thats rubbish - top only shows the most busy
[12:06] <Sorcererbob> bet its an intel
[12:06] <Maxtor> Its an intergrated video card from the Notebook 6710b, a x3100 chipset i thought 965
[12:06] <gromozekin> whats the minimal system requirements for ubuntu?
[12:06] <ikonia> Sorcererbob he wants to know a.) what program is listening on what port b.) the pid and how to kill it
[12:06] <Sorcererbob> who cares about processes that aren't busy? its a list. Not a complete list.
[12:06] <Maxtor> and yes its a intel
[12:06] <ikonia> Sorcererbob top is a uless tool
[12:06] <ikonia> Sorcererbob do you read the questions he posts, hs said a process wwas locking a port
[12:06] <wizo> hey guys, what do i have to install to get -lportaudio ? i`m trying to compile something from source but it says /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lportaudio, i just installed libportaudio0
[12:06] <novato_br> how can i changen the baloon theme of the system? the baloon are so uglies!
[12:07] <ikonia> Sorcererbob and you should care about processes that arn't busy
 how do i list running programs again?
[12:07] <TheSkorm> ps aux
[12:07] <wizo> Corcererbob, ps aux, you could pipe it and use grep to make it easier to find too
[12:07] <ikonia> Sorcererbob top does not list the running proceams
[12:07] <ikonia> programs
[12:07] <Sorcererbob> ok, I was wrong then. I'm not a guru.
[12:07] <trwww> wizo: libportaudio0-devel?
[12:07] <Sorcererbob> but yes, I read the question
[12:08] <elitepanda> thanks for the help
[12:08] <Sorcererbob> apparently you didn't
[12:08] <elitepanda> 2nd column = pid?
[12:08] <ikonia> Sorcererbob I did
[12:08] <wizo> trwww, hmm, ok i will try searching for that
[12:08] <ikonia> heguru not at all
[12:08] <ikonia> heguru: but its appriciated
 Sorcererbob do you read the questions he posts, hs said a process wwas locking a port
[12:09] <ikonia> Sorcererbob correct, that was his question
[12:09] <bobsomebody> laters #ubuntu, im going back to the code....
[12:09] <Sorcererbob> ...that was his second question
[12:09] <heguru> elitepanda: what did you run?
[12:09] <wib> how does one use or install those "desklets" from gnome-look.org?
[12:09] <elitepanda> hlds_run half life server
[12:09] <elitepanda> now it says something is hogging the port
[12:09] <ikonia> wib most of them are in the rpeo
[12:09] <maxtorr> Hello, i just installed ubuntue and i had problems installing the videocard, The videocard is an x3100, 965 from intel, intergrated in my laptop. I downloaded the files from http://www.intellinuxgraphics.org/ but i dont know how to install this drivers.
[12:09] <wers> k3b does not run on my gnome desktop. I ran it using run command, the menu, and the terminal, but nothing worked
[12:09] <wizo> trwww, apt-cache search doesnt return anything
[12:10] <wib> ikonia: ah, thx
[12:10] <wers> whenever I run it on the terminal, no code comes out
[12:10] <novato_br> is it possible?
[12:10] <ikonia> maxtorr the video card is an X3100 ?and a 965  ?
[12:10] <maxtorr> Its an x3100
[12:10] <Sorcererbob> would resolution915 fix the issue?
[12:10] <ikonia> Sorcererbob hang on 915res writes to the firmware, don't just dive in with random command
[12:11] <ikonia> maxtorr can' you explain the problem a little more
[12:11] <ikonia> can
[12:11] <Sorcererbob> it was a question
[12:11] <TheSkorm> maxtorr: Is your video working at the moment?
[12:12] <jamiej> can any one tell me how to stop the file browser launching when automatically when you insert a disk or removable device? Thanks
[12:12] <wib> ikonia: sry, but there aren't any
[12:12] <heguru> jamiej: System -> Preferences -> Removable Media
[12:13] <maxtorr> buYes
[12:13] <maxtorr> My video is working
[12:13] <TheSkorm> Awesome
[12:13] <maxtorr> but when i change resolution it doesnt respond
[12:13] <maxtorr> And also i cant configure desktop effects
[12:13] <TheSkorm> If you goto the resricted drivers managaer do you get any vide options?
[12:13] <maxtorr> No
[12:13] <maxtorr> There i only see wireless
[12:14] <wizo> ey, is there anyway i can test my sound
[12:14] <ikonia> wib such as
[12:14] <wizo> like generate random noises will do
[12:14] <ikonia> maxtorr sorry, I missed half of that
[12:15] <TheSkorm> wizo: try 'say test' in a terminal
[12:15] <TheSkorm> not sure if itll work
[12:15] <pbx> Every time I run aptitude (on this slow laptop) I have to wait a loooong time for the "building tag database" step... shouldn't this be cached? Is there a setting for this, or an alternative (on the command line) that doesn't have this problem?
[12:15] <wizo> no such command
[12:15] <wizo> lol
[12:15] <jamiej> heguru: Thanks its been right their all the time. Thanks Pal.
[12:15] <TheSkorm> wizo: play a .ogg file in a media player or something?
[12:16] <elitepanda> wizo: try going youtube on a browser or something
[12:16] <wizo> hmm ok, thanks
[12:16] <heguru> wizo: aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav
[12:16] <wizo> oo i got it working
[12:17] <wizo> i used espeak
[12:20] <pbx> Actually, I misspoke earlier -- it's not the "building tag database" step, it's what happens after that when I'm looking for a nonexistent package. A long noisy search. Question about caching remains, but this isn't as bad as I thought.
[12:22] <wopwop> whois guerin
[12:23] <Sorcererbob> he's lewis
[12:24] <wopwop> ok sorry, typo. Thanks
[12:24] <floating> Hello. I wonder why my vlc-player can't playback this .rm file I downloaded. I have installed some useful codecs for ubuntu, and then vlc, and thought it would be enough. Is it enough and is my file maybe corrupted, or do I need smth ?
[12:24] <floating> xubuntu that is
[12:25] <ikonia> floating did you install the real player package
[12:26] <floating> I don't know hmm, maybe not. do you remember the name of it ?
[12:27] <ikonia> !realplayer >floating
[12:30] <floating> thanks
[12:32] <floating> everytime i install something, it comes up with "updating fonts cache", and then starts to install some fonts, and all the fail "failed to write cache", which makes the installing of programs slow, although they usually work despite the font errors
[12:33] <Ubuntunewb> wow, support channel came up straight away, I love this thing
[12:33] <Ubuntunewb> anyone got any knowledge of setting up WPA1 wireless encryption?
[12:33] <heguru> !anyone| Ubuntunewb
[12:33] <ubotu> Ubuntunewb: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:33] <unky> hi
[12:33] <unky> i have problems with eciadsl
[12:34] <heguru> unky: what is the problem
[12:34] <unky> my modem is an ericsson hm120 dp..it correcly connect but after some times it disconnect me from the net
[12:35] <heguru> unky: which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[12:35] <unky> 7.04
[12:35] <unky> EciAdsl 5/5]  Setting up route table...
[12:35] <unky> Waiting for ppp0...
[12:35] <unky> Adding default route... SIOCADDRT: File exists
[12:35] <unky> failed to set default route to ppp0
[12:36] <unky> when disconnected if i type sudo route  the routing table is clear
[12:36] <unky> when connected i try sudo route add default ppp0
[12:36] <unky> but it say that already exist
[12:36] <jdecoste> lol
[12:36] <heguru> unky: you should not add the route manually for eciadsl
[12:37] <jdecoste> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Rsyncmirror find the spelling error :p
[12:37] <Ubuntunewb> okay uboto my question is how do I set up WPA1
[12:37] <unky> heguru, so what i have to do?
[12:37] <Ubuntunewb> I only have WEP encryption in the options
[12:37] <heguru> unky: can you pastebin your /etc/ppp/options file to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[12:37] <jscinoz> Hey guys
[12:37] <unky> ok wait
[12:37] <heguru> Ubuntunewb: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[12:37] <Ubuntunewb> feisty
[12:37] <Ubuntunewb> I followed some instructions I found on Google and searched the forums
[12:38] <heguru> Ubuntunewb: are you using static IP?
[12:38] <Ubuntunewb> the PCMCIA Level One card *does* show up and it even detects the network
[12:38] <Ubuntunewb> just can't select WPA
[12:38] <Ubuntunewb> only WEP which is pointless
[12:38] <Ubuntunewb> otherwise Ubuntu ROCKS!
[12:38] <heguru> Ubuntunewb: are you using static IP or DHCP?
[12:38] <jscinoz> I was growing my home partition via gparted on the ubuntu live CD, for an unknown reason gparted exited halfway through, if i open it again it shows the file system at its original size but with no data and shows a little error Icon, what chance is there of recovering my data and how can i do this?
[12:38] <Ubuntunewb> was a nightmare to set up the screen but found an EDID file in the end that fixed it
[12:39] <Ubuntunewb> heguru is that too far?  I can't even connect that far yet
[12:39] <ikonia> jscinoz resizing partitions on the file is always risky
[12:39] <heguru> Ubuntunewb: are you getting my messages? I am asking if you are using a static ip or dhcp?
[12:39] <Ubuntunewb> yes I got them but I am not getting that far.. I hook up to a modem that I am using now by Ethernet just fine
[12:40] <Ubuntunewb> it assigns a dynamic IP via DHCP
[12:40] <Ubuntunewb> I may have assigned a 'fixed host' in the modem DHCP settings but either way not sure if that is relevant?
[12:40] <heguru> Ubuntunewb: how are you configuring your wireless, using nm-applet (the network Icon on the tray) or System -> Administration -> Network
[12:41] <shiznit> is there a difference
[12:42] <lololo> 
[12:42] <heguru> Ubuntunewb: in feisty, System -> Administration -> Network does not allow WPA configuration so you either have to use NetworkManager (click at the network icon on the tray on upper right corner) or you can configure wpa manually in /etc/network/interfaces file
[12:42] <Ubuntunewb> heguru: I tried using the menu - former
[12:42] <yhlfh> one of my friend can't boot his ubuntu after an upgrade, he got '/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off'. what's the problem?
[12:43] <SpComb> I'm having issues with F-Spot Photo Manager whereby it consistently crashes without any error messages if I attempt to export a photo taken vertically (as opposed to horizontally) to a Folder with the Auto-rotate option on (the camera has an orientation sensor and stores the info in the EXIF data). The photos all show up fine the right way around in F-Spot itself. This is with F-Spot 0.3.5 on 7.04, so it looks a lot like this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.
[12:43] <kippi> hey
[12:43] <kippi> is there away to keep a program running once you have closed your ssh window?
[12:44] <elitepanda> question... i open xmms but there's no gui at all, it just runs in the background, how come?
[12:44] <heguru> kippi: run it with nohup
[12:44] <heguru> kippi: nohup <yourprogram>
[12:44] <SpComb> kippi: run it in screen or background it (nohup)
[12:44] <Ubuntunewb> heguru: I tried the network manager too
[12:45] <Ubuntunewb> heguru: I also found http://www.debianadmin.com/enable-wpa-wireless-access-point-in-ubuntu-linux.html
[12:45] <heguru> Ubuntunewb: ok lets try to troubleshoot it, first click at System -> Administration -> Network
[12:45] <heguru> Ubuntunewb: do you see Wireless Connection in the list?
[12:46] <Ubuntunewb> yes
[12:46] <Ubuntunewb> and the essid of the network
[12:46] <heguru> Ubuntunewb: Click at properties and check the "Enable roaming mode"
[12:46] <Ubuntunewb> I've followed the instructions from http://www.debianadmin.com/enable-wpa-wireless-access-point-in-ubuntu-linux.html already
[12:46] <Ubuntunewb> did that
[12:46] <heguru> Ubuntunewb: ok
[12:47] <ubuser> heguru have you seen my prvate message?
[12:47] <Ubuntunewb> I appreciate your help btw heguru :-)  I know we need to go through isolation testing
[12:47] <heguru> Ubuntunewb: so you can see your wireless networks when you click at the network icon?
[12:48] <heguru> ubuser: yes i have
[12:48] <Ubuntunewb> yes - with the essid of the network so it appears to be detected
[12:48] <ubuser> ok
[12:48] <Ubuntunewb> when you say network icon you mean top right
[12:48] <Nalleman> hi, i tried to install the vlc-plugin for mozilla to play embedded video but it does not work. Is there any good solution to this "embedded video issue?"
[12:49] <heguru> Ubuntunewb: yes
[12:49] <heguru> ubuser: options seem fine, can you also pastebin /var/log/eciadsl.log
[12:49] <ubuser> ok
[12:50] <heguru> Ubuntunewb: and when you click at the essid of your network you get a popup window with a dropdown?
[12:50] <Ubuntunewb> heguru: yes it's there
[12:50] <Ubuntunewb> oh hang on sorry
[12:50] <chamunks> Hey I kinda nuked my FS but just before i did so i litterally had just finished mirroring my drive to another drive using dd im running from the live disk how n earth do i restore it now?
[12:51] <Ubuntunewb> how do I turn off network messages in xchat?
[12:51] <ikonia> chamunks dd it back
[12:51] <Ubuntunewb> reset by peer, etc
[12:51] <heguru> chamunks: dd it back
[12:52] <Ubuntunewb> whoops
[12:52] <chamunks> ikonia: its from /hda3 to /hda1 i tried using the command i had before but im trying to replace new with old obviously so im kinda confused
[12:52] <heguru> Ubuntunewb: what?
[12:52] <ikonia> chamunks if you used the same command again, you've just mirrored the corruption
[12:52] <chamunks> heguru: I've never really done backups with ubuntu before
[12:53] <Ubuntunewb> I clicked on the essid and it disconnected the wired network
[12:53] <heguru> chamunks: do you remember the command you used to backup?
[12:53] <ikonia> chamunks are the disks identical in size. Can you show me the mirror ccommand you used
[12:53] <chamunks> one moment
[12:54] <Ubuntunewb> heguru: top right network icon next to the clock
[12:54] <heguru> Ubuntunewb: yes
[12:54] <chamunks> It was something like this dd if=/dev/hda2 of=/dev/hda3 conv=noerror,sync bs=4k
[12:54] <ikonia> chamunks are the hard disks identical in size ?
[12:54] <ubuser> Heguru i don't have a eciadsl.log file in /var/log
[12:54] <Ubuntunewb> heguru: I left click and then it comes up with Ethernet and essid of the wireless network via the PCMCIA wireless card
[12:55] <chamunks> ikonia: yes
[12:55] <heguru> Ubuntunewb: if you click at it, then click at the essid of your network, do you get a popup window asking for key?
[12:55] <Ubuntunewb> heguru: I then clicked on the essid and it disconnected the ethernet
[12:55] <ikonia> ok - so "dd if=/dev/hda3 of=/dev/hda1 conv=noerror,sync bs=4k
[12:55] <heguru> Ubuntunewb: yes it will disconnect ethernet when trying to connect to wireless
[12:55] <Ubuntunewb> I did previously, with only WEP as an option, I'll try again although it may disconnect me
[12:55] <heguru> Ubuntunewb: before you leave
[12:55] <Merlintosh> hello guys
[12:56] <chamunks> ikonia: and im not entirely sure what parts of that command do sadly enough i basically just copied and pasted from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem
[12:56] <Ubuntunewb> yep, it worked, but only WEP in the dropdown
[12:56] <Ubuntunewb> even if click on 'shared key' changing from 'open'
[12:56] <ikonia> chamunks just do the command I gave you, if the backup is usable you will be fixed
[12:56] <heguru> Ubuntunewb: run the command: lspci and pastebin the output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[12:58] <maxtorr> Hello, i just installed ubuntue and i had problems installing the videocard, The videocard is an x3100, 965 from intel, intergrated in my laptop. I downloaded the files from http://www.intellinuxgraphics.org/ but i dont know how to install this drivers.
[12:58] <chamunks> ikonia: so your saying just reversing the command works and it will only replace the new stuff with the old because i ran that exact code last nite and i wasnt sure if it was going to work as it only copied like 50 megs
[12:58] <ikonia> maxtorr why do you keep sayig the video card is an X3100 and 965 ?
[12:58] <Lunz> can anyone help me to restore back my xconf file?please help
[12:58] <maxtorr> Yes well i googled the videocard
[12:58] <ikonia> chamunks if it only copied 50 meg - it failed
[12:58] <ikonia> Lunz I've told you what to do 3 times
[12:58] <maxtorr> it says it uses chipset 965
[12:58] <Lunz> i cant
[12:58] <maxtorr> but the card is called x3100
[12:58] <maxtorr> intel x3100
[12:59] <Lunz> it failed
[12:59] <Lunz> :((
[12:59] <chamunks> ikonia: i think actually i read it wrong LOL oops
[12:59] <maxtorr> intergrated card
[12:59] <ikonia> Lunz what failed, I've asked you to start being exact
[12:59] <shiznit> thats chip is really new right
[12:59] <heguru> maxtorr: you don't need to install a driver for this card separately, the driver comes with ubuntu
[12:59] <ikonia> maxtorr you need to use the i810 or intel video driver in xorg
[12:59] <maxtorr> Ok
[12:59] <Ubuntunewb> heguru: what 'syntax' do I choose
[12:59] <maxtorr> is it pre installed?
[12:59] <Lunz> i did the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:59] <ikonia> maxtorr its part of xorg
[12:59] <maxtorr> 	Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X3100 This is what the intel site syas
[12:59] <Lunz> but still can start the gdm
[01:00] <maxtorr> So i need to reconfigure xorg?
[01:00] <ikonia> Lunz what video card to you have ?
[01:00] <chamunks> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39522/  So in that paste does everything look peachy?
[01:00] <maxtorr> Since i think my video isnt installed proper;ly cause its lagging at screensavers/i cant use desktop effects etc.
[01:00] <Lunz> nvdia geforce 4mx 4000
[01:00] <heguru> Ubuntunewb: leave it as is
[01:00] <ikonia> maxtorr why is that important ? fix it then try it
[01:00] <ikonia> Lunz what video driver are you using ?
[01:01] <Ubuntunewb> heguru: done
[01:01] <ikonia> chamunks: you forgot sudo
[01:01] <rom>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[01:01] <heguru> Ubuntunewb: now paste the link here
[01:01] <Lunz> geforce 4 Ti 4200
[01:01] <ikonia> Lunz that backup is useless
[01:01] <Ubuntunewb> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39523/
[01:01] <ikonia> Lunz what video card driver did you select in xorg
[01:01] <c3zar> Will it be possible to update the 7.10Beta to the 7.10"normal" release?
[01:01] <ikonia> c3zar ye
[01:01] <ikonia> yes
[01:01] <Lunz> tga
[01:01] <maxtorr> im gonna try to reconfigure xorg now
[01:01] <ikonia> c3zar but I advise against it
[01:01] <heguru> Ubuntunewb: ah so many RT2500 :(
[01:02] <ikonia> Lunz why - you want nvidia or nv
[01:02] <Ubuntunewb> bad smiley face
[01:02] <c3zar> ikonia, why that?
[01:02] <Lunz> nvidia
[01:02] <Ubuntunewb> nvidia binary driver rocks
[01:02] <chamunks> ikonia: i didnt realise i coppied my late night error yeah but i re issued the command immediately afterwards
[01:02] <heguru> Ubuntunewb: your network card will not support WPA using the default linux drivers, you have to use windows driver with ndiswrapper
[01:02] <Ubuntunewb> ouch, that sounds complex
[01:02] <NetGear> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[01:02] <NetGear> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 
[01:02] <ikonia> chamunks as long as you didn't mirror the corruption your fine
[01:02] <heguru> !ndiswrapper | Ubuntunewb
[01:02] <ubotu> Ubuntunewb: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:02] <Furionn> does anyone know about eggdrops?
[01:02] <ikonia> NetGear depends which headers
[01:02] <NetGear> i am sinstalling vmware help me
[01:03] <ikonia> NetGear vmware is in the repo - just apt-get it
[01:03] <shiznit> ikonia, why would you advise agains 7.10beta to 7.10normal
[01:03] <crayner> yoohoo
[01:03] <chamunks> ikonia: i just re wrote some files that i have no idea where they were i was really tired when i did it
[01:03] <ikonia> shiznit due to legacy roken/updated packages
[01:03] <rom> How to login once you are register on freenode irc server?
[01:03] <chamunks> ikonia: im just concerned about this output dd: writing `/dev/hda2': Input/output error
[01:03] <ikonia> shiznit you may find some are missed
[01:03] <Ubuntunewb> heguru: will that me a major project?
[01:03] <ikonia> chamunks yes, thats going no-wehre
[01:03] <Merlintosh> hi guys any suggestions on ubuntu compatible modems
[01:03] <Lunz> nvidia
[01:03] <rom> I registered, but when I try to send a private message :  :simmons.freenode.net 505 rom :Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems,
[01:03] <ikonia> chamunks you told me the drive was hda1 not hda2
[01:03] <c3zar> and what about 7.04 to 7.10?
[01:04] <Lunz> well..someone form this forum guided me until my xserver crashed...thanks..
[01:04] <chamunks> ikonia: sorry its /dev/hda2   is the main system drive and /dev/hda3 is the mirror
[01:04] <heguru> Ubuntunewb: let me find the link to a step by step guide for your card
[01:04] <Furionn> does anyone know about eggdrops?
[01:04] <ikonia> c3zar should be reasonale, but again, I'll be doing a re-install
[01:04] <rom> HymnToLife : are u there?
[01:04] <ikonia> chamunks and your running from the livecd ?
[01:04] <rom> HymnToLife: es-tu l?
[01:04] <chamunks> ikonia: yes
[01:04] <Ubuntunewb> oh that sounds cool
[01:04] <Ubuntunewb> I have heard Wine is pretty good these days
[01:04] <Sorcererbob> it is
[01:05] <c3zar> did anybody try the new ntfs-write support. does it work proberly?
[01:05] <Merlintosh> gys I need help I want to know about modems supported on ubuntu
[01:05] <klinter> hi all
[01:05] <Sorcererbob> I use it to play Quake 3 :D
[01:05] <Merlintosh> 56k modems
[01:05] <ikonia> chamunks try this "sudo dd if=/dev/hda3 of=/dev/hda2 bs=512k"
[01:05] <klinter> how can i figure out which video card I have?
[01:05] <Ubuntunewb> how do I redirect 'home' to a NTFS partition too, is that hard
[01:05] <heguru> Ubuntunewb: http://howto.landure.fr/gnu-linux/ubuntu-feisty-fawn-1/hardware-support-for-ubuntu-feisty-fawn/easy-wpa-with-ralink-rt2400-rt2500-rt2570-rt61-and-rt7-on-ubuntu-feisty-fawn
[01:05] <Lunz> sigh...
[01:05] <ikonia> Ubuntunewb you don't do that
[01:05] <Ubuntunewb> thank you heguru
[01:05] <ikonia> Lunz whats the proble m?
[01:05] <Lunz> already post it above
[01:06] <ikonia> Lunz and I've tol dyou the resolution
[01:06] <Ubuntunewb> will read and have to go thanks!
[01:06] <boubbin> hwo to mount *.img ?
[01:06] <Lunz> resolution?
[01:06] <c3zar> solution probably ;)
[01:06] <ikonia> Lunz you need to use the nvidia  driver from either nvidia-glx package or nvidia-legacy package, or the nv driver from xorg
[01:06] <chamunks> ikonia: is there a command that can be used so it will report progress? because its 30 gb's
[01:06] <ikonia> chamunks not really
[01:06] <ikonia> chamunks just sit and wait
[01:06] <Lunz> and how do i do that?
[01:06] <Woet> how do you copy files in ubuntu?
[01:06] <Woet> via terminal
[01:06] <c3zar> did anybody try the new ntfs-write support?
[01:07] <ikonia> Lunz: I've told you 4 times now "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[01:07] <Lunz> yeah..but how?
[01:07] <c3zar> Woet, like everywhere
[01:07] <ikonia> Woet man cp
[01:07] <Woet> k
[01:07] <Woet> :)
[01:07] <Lunz> i already done that
[01:07] <Lunz> nothing happended
[01:07] <chamunks> ikonia: ok thanks im going to go get ready for my day ill hope its done after my shower i thank you verry much for the assistance
[01:07] <ikonia> Lunz you selected the wrong driver - you need to select the nvidia driver, or worst case the nv driver"
[01:07] <ikonia> Lunz: have you installed nvidia-glx package ?
[01:08] <ikonia> chamunks welcome
[01:08] <Lunz> already installed it before
[01:08] <chamunks> ikonia: i think at the time i nuked my fs i had ran sudo aptitude install -f  to fix something for compiz fusion and didnt pay attention so i uninstalled some crucial stuff
[01:08] <Lunz> do i have to install it again?
[01:08] <ikonia> Lunz then why are you not selected the nvidia or nv driver ?
[01:08] <c3zar> well, thx and bye ;)
[01:08] <SpComb> and for whatever reason, The GIMP is unable to open my photos, I just get "Opening '/home/terom/Photos/2007/10/04/PA042331.JPG' failed: Plug-In could not open image"
[01:08] <crayner> halp
[01:08] <Lunz> there is no nvidia option on it!!!
[01:08] <ikonia> Lunz then you've not installed it, what about "nv"
[01:08] <NetGear> help help vmware  installation message
[01:09] <NetGear> Your kernel was built with "gcc" version "4.1.2", while you are trying to use
[01:09] <NetGear> "/usr/bin/gcc" version "4.2.1". This configuration is not recommended and
[01:09] <NetGear> VMware Server may crash if you'll continue. Please try to use exactly same
[01:09] <NetGear> compiler as one used for building your kernel. Do you want to go with compiler
[01:09] <NetGear> "/usr/bin/gcc" version "4.2.1" anyway? [no]  yes
[01:09] <Lunz> no nv too
[01:09] <crayner> i have been trying to play quake, quake 3 and doom 3
[01:09] <crayner> they run
[01:09] <dgjones_> !paste | NetGear
[01:09] <crayner> but terribly slow
[01:09] <ubotu> NetGear: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:09] <SpComb> I guess there's something severly screwed in the Exif data that my camera adds that causes F-Spot and The GIMP to break on them
[01:09] <ikonia> NetGear how are you installing vmare ?
[01:09] <Lunz> damn..dizzy now..so fast
[01:09] <crayner> my computer is more than powerful enough to run  them
[01:09] <crayner> any help?
[01:09] <Lunz> NO nv TOO!!
[01:09] <ikonia> !caps lunz
[01:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about caps lunz - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:10] <ikonia> !caps | lunz
[01:10] <ubotu> lunz: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[01:10] <SlimeyPete> crayner: sounds like they're using software rendering via mesa
[01:10] <Lunz> hahah
[01:10] <ikonia> Lunz there is no "nv" module available, and no "nvidia" module available too
[01:10] <Lunz> he doesnt know about cap lunz
[01:10] <Rageon> does ubuntu have like a unbuilt remote desktop feature?
[01:10] <NetGear> ikonia, form tr.gz file
[01:10] <donfilipo> just installed ubuntu and upgraded to 7.1 and later added second ntfs HDD. I have read some thing about mount hdb1 or so but nothing works...any idea?
[01:10] <dgjones_> !ntfs | donfilipo
[01:10] <ubotu> donfilipo: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:10] <crayner> is that bad?
[01:10] <ikonia> NetGear I recommend you not do that, as you don't appear to know what your doing. Use vmware out of the repo
[01:10] <crayner> i have nvidia glx installed
[01:10] <SlimeyPete> crayner: you need to make sure you have DRI enabled and have the fully-accelerated drivers for your graphics card
[01:11] <ikonia> donfilipo 7.1 doesn't exist
[01:11] <Lunz> so how???
[01:11] <SlimeyPete> crayner: yes, it's bad. It means your processor is doing all the work - graphics card isn't doing anything.
[01:11] <ikonia> donfilipo you've messed up your whole install then
[01:11] <Rageon> !ntfs-3g
[01:11] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[01:11] <ikonia> donfilipo: sorry, that wasn't fo ryou
[01:11] <crayner> ok
[01:11] <bhara1> hello all ... i have a simple problem... GRUB of my system disappers when i join the internal 160 GB hard disk on mother board ... but withdout it its working perfect..?
[01:11] <neopsych1> successfully reading ntfs usb drive on feisty plug and play :-) ;-) nice
[01:11] <crayner> whats dri?
[01:11] <SlimeyPete> !opengl
[01:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:11] <SlimeyPete> !dri
[01:11] <ikonia> Lunz: apt-get install nvidia-glx see what it says
[01:11] <ubotu> dri is direct rendering infrastructure, a framework for allowing direct access to graphics hardware under the X Window System in a safe and efficient manner.
[01:11] <blue|palm> !java
[01:11] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[01:11] <bhara1> i am using Ubuntu 7.04
[01:11] <crayner> in english please?
[01:12] <^LadyVaMpIrKa^> ega.bg
[01:12] <Rageon> !fuse
[01:12] <ubotu> FUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) is a !kernel driver that allows non-root users to create their own filesystems. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE.  Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here:  http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems
[01:12] <donfilipo> ikonia it says 7.10 and it works fine...reading the link from ubotu:)
[01:12] <SlimeyPete> crayner: it's something which needs to be enabled in order to allow programs to use the acceleration features of your graphics card
[01:12] <ikonia> donfilipo you said 7.1
[01:12] <crayner> ok
[01:12] <SlimeyPete> crayner: what card do you have?
[01:12] <crayner> how do i enable it?
[01:12] <crayner> 6600GT
[01:12] <Lunz> ikonia:u want me to go back to ubuntu again just to know what it says?do u know that i have to change my hardisk everytime i switch me os?
[01:12] <NetGear> ikonia, i cant istall it by apt-get
[01:13] <NetGear> ikonia, help
[01:13] <SlimeyPete> crayner: ok. Did you install the restricted nvidia drivers?
[01:13] <ikonia> Lunz what ?
[01:13] <ikonia> NetGear why not ?
[01:13] <crayner> yep
[01:13] <crayner> i have desktop effects and everyhting
[01:13] <SlimeyPete> crayner: hmm. Should be OK then. You need DRI enabled in order to use desktop effects.
[01:13] <NetGear> ikonia, E: Couldn't find package vmware
[01:13] <crayner> hmmm
[01:14] <ikonia> NetGear is it called vmware, have you searched for the correct package name ?
[01:14] <SlimeyPete> maybe DRI isn't the issue, then. Have you tried disabling desktop effects before running the games?
[01:14] <crayner> ok
[01:14] <crayner> will try
[01:14] <SlimeyPete> sometimes the effects cause problems with 3D apps
[01:14] <Lunz> i am using a computer with 2 diff hard disk..i have reboot evertime i want to switch back to ubuntu..i am on windows now...
[01:14] <ikonia> Lunz then I can't help you
[01:15] <ikonia> Lunz make note of the commands, try them, report back with the error
[01:15] <morryer> How would I install SMTP ready for use with PHP?
[01:15] <ikonia> Lunz how can you expect people to fix it if you not in a position to give feedback or run commands
[01:15] <ikonia> morryer you just need a locked down mta
[01:15] <ikonia> morryer: ubuntu comes with postfix
[01:15] <MoNsTeR> my mouse isnt the same anymore it used to be click with the middle button to open a new tab or move the cube in beryl  but now i have to click with left and rigth clicker to open a new tabe or move the cube does anybody know why?
[01:15] <morryer> ikonia: Could you explain.
[01:15] <crayner> OMG
[01:15] <crayner> its fixed
[01:16] <crayner> thankyou very much
[01:16] <Lunz> ok..by the way thanks to scguy318 for installing my wife and guided me until my xserver CRASH!! and he didnt response until now...
[01:16] <crayner> you guys are awesome help
[01:16] <SlimeyPete> crayner: :)
[01:16] <Lunz> wifi
[01:16] <ikonia> morryer php will use functions like "mail" that will just interface with the system mail service, so if you have postfix or exim or sendmail running, doesn't matter to php
[01:16] <NetGear> ikonia, Report malicious/abusive content
[01:16] <ikonia> NetGear what where ?
[01:16] <ikonia> NetGearI missed it
[01:16] <NetGear> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39525/
[01:16] <morryer> ikonia: So I need to install postfix?
[01:16] <crayner> do they pay you?
[01:16] <ikonia> morryer or a "mail server" so postfix, sendmail exim , your choice
[01:17] <ikonia> NetGear who's is that pastebin ?
[01:17] <NetGear> ikonia, sudo apt-get install vmware*
[01:17] <donfilipo> mhm nice script but the result is the same
[01:17] <ikonia> NetGear your using debian !
[01:18] <NetGear> ikonia, yes
[01:18] <ikonia> NetGear: this is ubuntu support only - join #debian
[01:18] <NetGear> ikonia, ok thanks
[01:18] <MoNsTeR> NetGear, WOW!!! haha you come to ubuntu channel for help with debian
[01:18] <SlimeyPete> crayner: no, we're all volunteers
[01:18] <MoNsTeR> my mouse isnt the same anymore it used to be click with the middle button to open a new tab or move the cube in beryl  but now i have to click with left and rigth clicker to open a new tabe or move the cube does anybody know why?
[01:19] <NetGear> ikonia, i am new to irc dont know much channels
[01:19] <ikonia> NetGear yeah yeah
[01:19] <Sorcererbob> just type "/join #debian"
[01:19] <ikonia> NetGear: always read /topic when you join a channel
[01:20] <MoNsTeR> my mouse isnt the same anymore it used to be click with the middle button to open a new tab or move the cube in beryl  but now i have to click with left and rigth clicker to open a new tabe or move the cube does anybody know why?
[01:21] <Rageon> does ubuntu have like a unbuilt remote desktop feature?
[01:21] <christoph> My composite TV-out is black and white, the graphic card is an nvidia with proprietary drivers installed and running, I'm using ubuntu feisty fawn, what can I do?
[01:21] <atlfalcons866> what file system should i use
[01:21] <Rageon> and if not could someone recommend me something secure i could use
[01:21] <heguru> Rageon: unbuilt remote desktop?
[01:22] <Rageon> inbuilt*
[01:22] <heguru> Rageon: VNC based desktop sharing is built-in
[01:22] <Rageon> VNC is very insecure tho isnt it?
[01:22] <MoNsTeR> my mouse isnt the same anymore it used to be click with the middle button to open a new tab or move the cube in beryl  but now i have to click with left and rigth clicker to open a new tabe or move the cube does anybody know why?
[01:22] <atlfalcons866> can i install ubuntu onto a ntfs partiton
[01:23] <heguru> Rageon: it can be tunneled through ssh easily
[01:23] <Rageon> can u send me a tut on how to tunnel it?
[01:23] <Frogzoo> MoNsTeR: you've fiddled your xorg.conf
[01:23] <morryer> Where are the php .so files located at on Ubuntu?
[01:23] <heguru> Rageon: http://members.shaw.ca/nicholas.fong/vnc/
[01:23] <HuricaneHarry> atlfalcons866, no not possible...
[01:24] <MoNsTeR> how can i fix it?
[01:24] <jrib> morryer: why?
[01:24] <MoNsTeR> Frogzoo,
[01:24] <morryer> jrib: I want to install php GD
[01:24] <christoph> isn't anybody able to help me?
[01:24] <heguru> Rageon: will your client be windows or linux?
[01:24] <Rageon> both linux
[01:24] <punzada> mmmm klibido is fantastic
[01:24] <punzada> i
[01:24] <HuricaneHarry> !patience | christoph
[01:24] <ubotu> christoph: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:24] <punzada> i've been using pan for a long time
[01:24] <atlfalcons866> then wat fs should i use then
[01:24] <heguru> Rageon: its very easy then, if you have a registered nick i can tell you there
[01:24] <MoNsTeR> Frogzoo, how can i fix it
[01:24] <atlfalcons866> !ext3
[01:25] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[01:25] <jrib> morryer: it is packaged, install the package
[01:25] <Rageon> he guru, im gunna reboot then ill reg a nick and we can go from there k?
[01:25] <heguru> Rageon: sure
[01:25] <Rageon> sweet brb
[01:26] <unary> hey all, was wondering if i could get some help with an smc usb wifi stick (ez connect) running on gutsy - or not in this case :) - without resorting to ndiswrappers. it is supported here http://www.linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/zd1211rw , but my problem seems to be with the usb as it isn't recognised correctly using lsusb..
[01:26] <atlfalcons866> how do i defrag
[01:26] <jrib> !info php5-gd | morryer
[01:26] <ubotu> morryer: php5-gd: GD module for php5. In component main, is optional. Version 5.2.1-0ubuntu1.4 (feisty), package size 32 kB, installed size 164 kB
[01:26] <MoNsTeR> Frogzoo, i fixed it
[01:26] <Frogzoo> !mouse | MoNsTeR this may help
[01:26] <ubotu> MoNsTeR this may help: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[01:26] <neopsych1> how do i make ntfs drive writable?
[01:26] <neopsych1> Or .. what do i need to set in ubuntu
[01:27] <jrib> !ntfs-3g > neopsych1 (read the private message from ubotu)
[01:27] <HuricaneHarry> atlfalcons866, defrag is not needed
[01:27] <neopsych1> thanks
[01:28] <HuricaneHarry> christoph, unfortunatly your problem possibly has to do with your tv ( too old )
[01:29] <morryer> jrib: Thanks, after I run it do I need to edit php.ini?
[01:29] <HuricaneHarry> christoph, if the tv has scart, you might wanna try composite to scart converter.
[01:29] <punzada> I never realized there was such a nice tool in windows for reading ext3 before, that's offically the last straw I needed to convert more of my drive that way :)
[01:29] <is_null> hello everybody, someone should check it out but on the cd <ubuntu-7.04-desktop-powerpc.iso>, there is a powerpc64 kernel, is that normal  ?
[01:30] <lokki> Is there way to write (and view) wiki code locally ?
[01:30] <chimerazz> hello to ubuntu guys
[01:31] <boubbin> im unable to play dvd's because i cant "select" anything fro mthe menu, the menu screen just rolls on and on but i cant push "play", how to fix ?
[01:31] <HuricaneHarry> lokki, check out wikionastick on sourceforge.
[01:31] <strike> hi, I assigned a password to root on ubuntu 7.04 now sudo is not working.. how can I get it to work?
[01:31] <chimerazz> Does anyone know how to change usplash theme
[01:31] <jrib> morryer: i am not sure, but you probably just need to restart apache or do 'a2enmod FOO'
[01:31] <morryer> ok thanks
[01:31] <bastid_raZor> chimerazz: google changing usplash
[01:32] <jrib> strike: define "not working"
[01:32] <Pici> !usplash | chimerazz
[01:32] <ubotu> chimerazz: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[01:32] <Furionn> does anyone know about eggdrops?
[01:32] <unary> chimerazz: your sudo password is the same as your login, enabling and changing root's password shouldn't effect it
[01:33] <jrib> !anyone | Furionn
[01:33] <ubotu> Furionn: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:33] <HuricaneHarry> strike: visudo or /etc/sudoers ( you will probably need root first )
[01:33] <boubbin> Furionn yeah, what about them ?
[01:33] <MoNsTeR> how come my middle button on my mouse is screwed up
[01:33] <HuricaneHarry> strike: use a live cd to remove the root password if neccesary.
[01:33] <chimerazz> thanks pici
[01:34] <strike> jrib: when I do anything like "sudo <whatever>" it just comes out to prompt without any error message or warning..
[01:34] <jrib> strike: what is the output of 'groups'?
[01:35] <Furionn> boubbin:  I have a problem wth eggdrop, i can connect that but get something starting as "starting bot in userfile creation mode ... and tells Spoilt: 1 channels, 0 users" but cant find where its connected to or where the problem is... i can send u all the error by pastebin if u want
[01:35] <strike> jrib: got it..
[01:35] <boubbin> Furionn does the bot show up on /whois botname ?
[01:35] <Pici> Furionn: There is an #eggdrop channel. That might help you better than #ubuntu
[01:36] <Furionn> boubbin:  no ti doesnt
[01:36] <Furionn> Pici: thers nobody online atm
[01:36] <atlfalcons866> when is gusty gibbon coming out
[01:36] <jrib> atlfalcons866: around the 18th
[01:36] <Pici> atlfalcons866: Oct 18th, further questions in #ubuntu+1 please
[01:36] <jxxxt> jrib, re yesterday my hard drive/memory problem. My hard drive is very noisy and I strongly suspect it to be the prob :-(
[01:36] <maxtorr> Hello, i have a problem with enabling my desktop effects.
[01:37] <jxxxt> atlfalcons88, 18 oct 207
[01:37] <chimerazz> How to fix the keyboard shortcuts that is when i changed panel menu shortcut to Super key it changes to superL
[01:37] <chimerazz> how to fix it for a single key
[01:37] <jxxxt> 2007
[01:37] <maxtorr> when i want to enable visual effects, it says visual effect cannot be aenabled
[01:37] <strike> jrib: thanks for pointing it out.. I was not in admin group
[01:37] <jrib> jxxxt: hmm, make backups of course
[01:38] <jxxxt> jrib, Got them already so willing to spend 100 if it fix the prob
[01:38] <dudubs> hello
[01:39] <maxtorr> What could be the problem i cannot enable visual effects. When i do so it gives back an error message that it couldt be enabled
[01:39] <dudubs> hello
[01:39] <wilhart> hi, what apt-get i need for gnome-desktop-2.0 and libgnome-2.0 ?
[01:40] <dudubs> i try to enable ksayit and it's not run
[01:40] <cjae_> in ubuntu is there anyway to put two avi's back together as one big one that was separated on a win machine
[01:40] <dudubs> the ksayit all times "synchronzing"
[01:41] <heguru> cjae_:  avimerge -o foo.avi -i foo1.avi foo2.avi
[01:42] <heguru> cjae_: you will need the transcode package (sudo apt-get install transcode)
[01:42] <maxtorr> What could be the problem i cannot enable visual effects. When i do so it gives back an error message that it couldt be enabled
[01:42] <cjae_> heguru, avi merge already in ubuntu
[01:43] <heguru> cjae_: ?
[01:44] <cjae_> heguru, is this possible to do with avidemux as well cause g/f is not going to like commandline
[01:44] <chimerazz> clening up ubuntu
[01:44] <chimerazz> cleaning up in ubuntu
[01:44] <chimerazz> help on cleaning up in ubuntu
[01:45] <boubbin> im unable to play dvd's because i cant "select" anything fro mthe menu, the menu screen just rolls on and on but i cant push "play", how to fix ?
[01:45] <IdleOne> cleaning what?
[01:45] <maxtorr> What could be the problem i cannot enable visual effects. When i do so it gives back an error message that it couldt be enabled
[01:45] <chimerazz> unnesscary files
[01:45] <heguru> cjae_: you can use avidemux yes, but commandline is much easier IMHO
[01:45] <heguru> !repeat | maxtorr
[01:45] <ubotu> maxtorr: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[01:45] <maxtorr> chimerazz: u responding on my question?
[01:45] <cjae_> heguru, I merely meant is avimerge installed in ubuntu by default
[01:46] <heguru> cjae_: no not by default
[01:46] <IdleOne> chimerazz: sudo apt-get autoremove
[01:46] <MoNsTeR> how come i cant rotate the cube in beryl with the middle mouse button anymore
[01:46] <mandh> hi all , i have problem with dummy interface in ubuntu ( arp problem in ldirectord environments )  , any one suffer from that problem
[01:47] <chimerazz> Idleone: itried and removed some packages but is thre any other things unnesscary which needs to be removed
[01:47] <cjae_> heguru, was looking for how to merge in avidemux do you know what it is labelled as?
[01:47] <heguru> cjae_: sorry I don't use avidemux
[01:48] <coldboot> I've been googling the following problem for a while: "Occasionally my mouse stops working with Kernels 2.6.(18,19,20) and dmesg reports "ohci_hcd: 0000:00:0b.0: IRQ INTR_SF lossage". Does anyone happen to know offhand which kernel might fix this problem, or a possible workaround. (Converting the usb mouse to ps2 would work, but I have a usb KVM and it's not an option)
[01:48] <cjae_> heguru, yes but trying to teach her cli is going to be difficult as there are many split avi's box had no dvd burner in it
[01:48] <cjae_> heguru, thanks anyway
[01:48] <Rageon> soz heguru, seem to have forgotten the pass to my other box lol... prolly gunna haveto reinstall :|
[01:49] <Rageon> !ntfs3g
[01:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs3g - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:49] <coldboot> Does anyone know how to lock a usb device to be usb 1.0 instead of 2.0?
[01:49] <IdleOne> !ntfs | Rageon
[01:49] <ubotu> Rageon: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:49] <Rageon> thx
[01:49] <Rageon> !ntfs-3g
[01:49] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[01:50] <Pici> MoNsTeR: Have you changed any mouse settings recently?
[01:50] <heguru> Rageon: you can boot into recovery mode and reset the password
[01:50] <Rageon> oh really?
[01:50] <Rageon> how do i get to recovery mode?
[01:51] <Rageon> do i haveto know my secret question or something ?
[01:51] <heguru> Rageon: on the boot of machine, press ESC on the grub screen
[01:51] <heguru> Rageon: you will get a list of options
[01:51] <Rageon> yea
[01:51] <Rageon> and one will be recovery console?
[01:52] <heguru> Rageon: select the one with (recovery mode)
[01:52] <heguru> Rageon: yes
[01:52] <Rageon> ok cool
[01:52] <Rageon> will i need to know my secret question or something.
[01:52] <Rageon> ?
[01:52] <heguru> Rageon: you will be logged on as root without a password, just type passwd <yourusername> to reset the password
[01:52] <heguru> Rageon: you don't have to know anything
[01:52] <Rageon> sweet
[01:52] <Rageon> once i leave recovery console will my root account be disabled again?
[01:53] <heguru> Rageon: yes root account will remain disabled
[01:53] <Rageon> awesome thx will try it out now
[01:53] <is_null> hello everybody, someone should check it out but on the cd <ubuntu-7.04-desktop-powerpc.iso>, there is a powerpc64 kernel, is that normal  ? isn't it a 64bit system ? It's lagging awfully on my iMac
[01:54] <Pici> !ppc | is_null
[01:54] <ubotu> is_null: PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[01:54] <Woet> is there a client which allows webcam-streams at MSN?
[01:54] <is_null> Pici: thanks
[01:55] <heguru> Woet: amsn
[01:55] <cjae_> heguru,  it gave me invalid input file when using avimerge is there credentials for the output filename?
[01:56] <is_null> Pici: ok, i beleive that i should ask the comunity that ported it, where ?
[01:56] <heguru> cjae_: you did this right: avimerge -o outputfilename.avi -i part1.avi part2.avi
[01:56] <cjae_> heguru,yes I just figured that out thank you
[01:56] <cjae_> heguru, sorry
[01:56] <Rageon> heguru, pressing ESC does nothing but cancel the countdown timer for me?
[01:57] <Pici> is_null: #ubuntu-powerpc or http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=133
[01:57] <heguru> Rageon: and you don't get any menu?
[01:57] <is_null> Pici: thanks
[01:57] <Rageon> nope
[01:57] <Rageon> only an easy boot one if i press ESC really early after my RAID screen
[01:58] <shiznit> why doesnt http://dc101.com/pages/listenlive.html work in ubuntu, i have the codec and the mplayer plugin says 'connected' but doesnt play
[01:58] <shiznit> its my fav show and i cant listen to it
[01:58] <heguru> Rageon: you pressed Escape when it was saying: GRUB loading. please wait Press Esc to enter the menu
[01:58] <Rageon> yea
[01:59] <Rageon> i tried it at the menu first like 3 times
[01:59] <Rageon> so thought u had to press it in that little bit where it says GRUB loading.. but when i even tried that it gave me easy boot menu
[01:59] <heguru> Rageon: strange. it should show you the menu. have you modified your grub configuration?
[01:59] <Rageon> nope this ones vanilla
[02:00] <Rageon> i have supergrub on dvd tho
[02:00] <Rageon> ?
[02:00] <heguru> Rageon: do you have the liveCD?
[02:00] <Rageon> (i had to burn the 4meg iso onto DVD koz i had no disks/CDs) lol
[02:00] <Rageon> yea
[02:01] <heguru> Rageon: boot into liveCD, and you can change the user password from there
[02:01] <blue|palm> can anybody tell me what tech is behind the network icon (i think its called the network manager applet; the thing that gives you a list of wifi networks/dialup connections etc.) that was introduced into ubuntu recently? is it written in python? or C/C++? and what library is it using? Im looking to create something similar...
[02:01] <heguru> Rageon: just boot the liveCD and then i will tell you how to reset your password
[02:01] <Rageon> ive got the pc in the other room i just havto walk back and forth ok?
[02:01] <Rageon> ill go boot the live CD
[02:01] <CoCaInE> hello, is this possible to log-in via FTP with sudo mode and just copy files via ftp ?
[02:01] <heguru> Rageon: its just two lines so no problem :)
[02:01] <Rageon> lol k
[02:02] <Rageon> i like exercise :)
[02:03] <Rageon> heguru, what am i doing once its at the bootmenu?
[02:03] <Rageon> which option
[02:04] <heguru> Rageon: just boot into LiveCD normally (the default option)
[02:04] <Rageon> ok
[02:04] <heguru> Rageon: then you have to do two things, first find out what it mounted your hard disk as (usually /media/disk)
[02:05] <IdleOne> blue|palm: http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/
[02:05] <blue|palm> IdleOne, thanks
[02:05] <IdleOne> np
[02:05] <_Lucretia> can somebody tell me how to get an iso-8599-1 locale that I can use temporarily to update an svn tree for a specific project which doesn't support utf8? thanks
[02:06] <whileimhere> I am on a vpn at work. Is there a vpn client for linux
[02:06] <IdleOne> !locales
[02:06] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[02:06] <CoCaInE> _Lucretia make charsets off
[02:06] <CoCaInE> worked for me
[02:06] <cjae_> heguru, thank you very much avimerge work quite well and all synced up
[02:06] <heguru> whileimhere: what kind of vpn? PPTP, IPSec, OpenVPN?
[02:07] <_Lucretia> IdleOne: unfortunately, that doc is no use
[02:07] <heguru> cjae_: welcome :)
[02:07] <whileimhere> I am not sure
[02:07] <_Lucretia> CoCaInE: ?
[02:07] <whileimhere> The company has one set up in the router
[02:07] <heguru> whileimhere: were you connecting to it using windows xp? did you need any special software on windows?
[02:07] <TheSkorm> I wish I had a vpn
[02:07] <whileimhere> heguru no.
[02:08] <CoCaInE> _Lucretia use locale what u got there?
[02:08] <CoCaInE> everywhere utf8 ?
[02:08] <sandy_> whileimhere, what is the problem
[02:09] <_Lucretia> CoCaInE: utf8
[02:09] <_Lucretia> _Lucretia: I'm fine with en_GB.utf8 I just want iso8559-1 for 1 svn repos
[02:09] <Rageon> ok heguru its loaded so what am i looking for and where do i look for it ? :D
[02:10] <_Lucretia> Error: 'en_GB.ISO-8599-1' is not a supported language or locale
[02:10] <_Lucretia> FFS
[02:10] <heguru> Rageon: you should find out what your ubuntu hard disk is mounted as, I haven't used the livecd since ages, so i will just suggest, try lookin in places, if you find you'r hard disk, check what its mounted as (disk-1 or sda1 or something like that)
[02:11] <Rageon> ok ill peek it out
[02:17] <heguru> Rageon: ?
[02:17] <Rageon> sorry mate, someone just came to the door, having a look now
[02:17] <casey_> any tell me what my problem is with this? I'm trying to install a sound driver. http://pastebin.com/d6efb27dc
[02:18] <Rageon> how do i reg a nick? ill do that quickly
[02:18] <mooper> Hi I have these 2 stipy bands on my screens, seems like the opposite colour to whats on the screen. They are about 1 inch from the bottom. a joining the right edge of the screen. They do not appear in screen capture. any Ideas ?? on ubuntu feisty ATI sapphire X1650 PRO dual head
[02:18] <Pici> !register | Rageon
[02:18] <ubotu> Rageon: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[02:18] <Rageon> ta
[02:18] <TheSkorm> apt-get install alasa
[02:18] <heguru> Rageon: /nickserv register <password?
[02:18] <Davy_Jones> i mount my external hard drive manually.. but after a while it umounts all by itself.. how can i fix this?
[02:18] <ilces> hi
[02:19] <neopsych1> NTFS drive says: I am not the owner so i cant change permissions?
[02:19] <casey_> theskorm: I all ready have alsa-base
[02:19] <heguru> !hi | ilces
[02:19] <ubotu> ilces: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:19] <Furionn> how can i allow a port out? i think i have a firewall or something, it doesnt let me...
[02:19] <TheSkorm> casey_: what sound driver are you trying to install?
[02:19] <Rageon> is it just /nickserv register thisisapassword
[02:19] <Rageon> ?
[02:19] <Rageon> or <>
[02:19] <ikonia> Furionn have you configured a firewall on your ubuntu box
[02:19] <heguru> Rageon: without <>
[02:19] <Rageon> kk
[02:19] <Furionn> ikonia:  no it is probably cause of my modems firewall
[02:20] <Furionn> i dont know how to allow that out in linux
[02:20] <ikonia> Furionn modems don't have a firewall
[02:20] <casey_> theskorm: realtek I believe.  I'm following some instructions on a website
[02:20] <ikonia> Furionn your router may, if your using one, but thats nothing to do with ubuntu
[02:20] <TheSkorm> casey_: linkage
[02:20] <Furionn> ikonia: well somehow how can i allow that out?
[02:20] <casey_> theskorm: http://aldeby.wordpress.com/2007/09/11/howto-ubuntu-on-hp-dv65xx-series-laptop/
[02:20] <TheSkorm> ikonia: it does if the router has upnp
[02:20] <ikonia> Furionn look in your router manual
[02:21] <Furionn> ikonia:  how? i dont know much on linux, could manage that on windows earlier
[02:21] <ikonia> Furionn ???? you configure your router the same way you did on linux as you did on windows
[02:22] <ardin> anyone else in here use Secret Maryo Chronicles
[02:22] <ikonia> ardin just ask the question
[02:22] <ganes2> ikonia:I installed ntfs 3g driver..now in terminal the su authentication is failing..
[02:22] <ikonia> ganes2 why ar eyou doing su ?
[02:22] <ikonia> ganes2 ubuntu uses sudo
[02:23] <TheSkorm> ikonia: no your mum is
[02:23] <ikonia> TheSkorm pardon ?
[02:23] <ardin> ikonia: wow, crabby. i was asking because its a game
[02:23] <TheSkorm> btw su > sudo
[02:23] <ikonia> ardin su ask the question
[02:23] <ikonia> TheSkorm su is not sudo
[02:23] <nick4> ganes2 try 'sudo su'
[02:23] <TheSkorm> ikonia: i know
[02:23] <ikonia> nick4 don't receommend that
[02:23] <ganes2> ikonia:oh ok ...i m new to linux..
[02:23] <darkchr0n0s_> sodoku
[02:23] <TheSkorm> But I come form the land of freebsd
[02:23] <nick4> ikonia ok :)
[02:23] <darkchr0n0s_> sumo > sudo
[02:24] <HuricaneHarry> try sudo -i ?
[02:24] <TheSkorm> where su > sudo
[02:24] <ardin> is there a channel for ubuntu that actually makes sense?
[02:24] <TheSkorm> ardin: try #windows
[02:24] <darkchr0n0s_> no TheSkorm, sumo > sudo
[02:24] <ikonia> ardin if you ask a question, you'll get an answer
[02:24] <nick4> ikonia but if he knows what he is doing, and doesn't want to type sudo all the time...
[02:24] <TheSkorm> sumo > su > sudo ?
 ardin su ask the question
[02:24] <ikonia> nick4 then you to it properly, not su - sudo
[02:24] <ardin> i said nothing about su
[02:24] <ikonia> ardin just ask the question
[02:24] <ganes2> nick4:ya..its working..thnx..
[02:24] <ardin> ikonia: are you a bot?
[02:25] <ikonia> ardin no
[02:25] <Woet> is there a client which allows webcam-streams at MSN? (except amsn)
[02:25] <darkchr0n0s_> ardin, ask the question or he will be angry now
[02:25] <Pici> !coc > TheSkorm (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[02:25] <ardin> darkchr0n0s_: i did ask a question
[02:25] <casey_> theskorm:  have you looked at the website?
[02:25] <TheSkorm> That condact is opensource right, so I could edit it to my own liking?
[02:25] <ganes2> ikonia:how can i know which graphics card i hav?
[02:25] <TheSkorm> casey_: yeah
[02:26] <ikonia> ardin this is a support channel, ask a support question about ubuntu
[02:26] <TheSkorm> I dunno whats going on
[02:26] <ikonia> ganes2 lspci may shot it
[02:26] <darkchr0n0s_> ardin : he missed it
[02:26] <TheSkorm> what step are you dieing at?
[02:26] <ikonia> ganes2: show
[02:26] <casey_> theskorm:  I was at the sound installation.. the second choice
[02:26] <casey_> where it says to dwonload the package, untar it, then sudo ./install
[02:26] <TheSkorm> no i mean which line
[02:26] <ardin> ok, wheres the 'unofficial' support channel, the one that tolerates just talking
[02:26] <heguru> Woet: Mercury Messenger (free but not opensource, also not available in repository, but has all the features of msn)
[02:26] <ikonia> !offtopic >ardin
[02:27] <TheSkorm> ah i see casey_
[02:27] <TheSkorm> casey_: your doing that as root right?
[02:28] <casey_> sudo yes
[02:28] <ikonia> TheSkorm no, he's using sudo
[02:28] <HuricaneHarry> ganes2: lspci
[02:28] <TheSkorm> Try the above example then
[02:28] <TheSkorm> the option a_
[02:28] <TheSkorm> *)
[02:28] <casey_> I did that one before... and had the same results.
[02:28] <ganes2> 00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Xpress 200 Host Bridge (rev 01)
[02:28] <ganes2> ikonia:
[02:28] <ikonia> casey_ what is the problem
[02:28] <casey_> it installs until it gets to that specific line
[02:28] <ikonia> ganes2 ok, you have an ati radio 200
[02:29] <ikonia> casey_ I missed the error line, sorry
[02:29] <casey_> I'm guessing the real problem is I dont have "alsaconf"
[02:29] <_Lucretia_> well that didn't work
[02:29] <casey_> because I believe thats where the install breaks
[02:29] <ganes2> will compiz work on it??ikonia:
[02:29] <casey_> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/d6efb27dc
[02:30] <ikonia> ganes2 ati cards are dubious in my option, but it should be supported if you can get the drivers working
[02:30] <ikonia> !ati > casey_
[02:30] <ikonia> casey_: have a read through that text
[02:30] <_Lucretia_> got this: Locale not supported by C library.
[02:30] <casey_> ... Im installing a sound driver
[02:30] <Downix> ikonia, what's wrong with ATI cards?
[02:30] <TheSkorm> !nvidia > ikonia | grep cookies
[02:30] <RkwAsyik> a`kum smeua selamat berpuasa dan akan menaymbut hari raya aidil fitri
[02:30] <Cyber_Stalker> what does grep do?
[02:30] <ikonia> Downix poor driver support
[02:31] <ikonia> TheSkorm !botabuse
[02:31] <ganes2>  ikonia:how can i do that?
[02:31] <RkwAsyik> mypapit
[02:31] <dgjones_> !english | RkwAsyik
[02:31] <ubotu> RkwAsyik: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[02:31] <TheSkorm> !botabuse
[02:31] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[02:31] <ikonia> ganes2: you where just sent two links from ubotu, have a read though
[02:31] <RkwAsyik> hafiz hi
[02:31] <TheSkorm> oh hawt
[02:31] <ikonia> TheSkorm: don't send my pointless bot information with no relevance
[02:31] <TheSkorm> !grep > ikonia
[02:31] <RkwAsyik> pls help me drupal program
[02:31] <ikonia> !ops
[02:31] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[02:31] <TheSkorm> ikonia: I thought you wanted some cookies
[02:31] <RkwAsyik> web portal malay lang
[02:31] <ikonia> TheSkorm: enough now
[02:32] <RkwAsyik> malkaysia speking
[02:32] <TheSkorm> 22:30:55 < Cyber_Stalker> what does grep do?
[02:32] <gnomefreak> ikonia: ?
[02:32] <Pici> TheSkorm: So, why would you send that to ikonia?
[02:32] <IdleOne> RkwAsyik: english only please
[02:32] <TheSkorm> ops
[02:32] <ikonia> gnomefreak read TheSkorm's content
[02:32] <Drew777> Hello I've just added a 500GB hard disk to a 6.10 machine. How should I mount it? can I add it to fstab? is that the right way to do it?
[02:32] <marko-ubuntu> hur gr man postbin ?
[02:32] <aantipop> i need a helping hand for installing my webcam :/
[02:32] <gnomefreak> i saw it after i asked
[02:32] <RkwAsyik> sorry broder
[02:32] <ikonia> gnomefreak no problem
[02:32] <xjkx> is gutsy out
[02:32] <Cyber_Stalker> !grep
[02:32] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[02:33] <gnomefreak> xjkx: #ubuntu+1 and no
[02:33] <rm130> I need help configuring audio on my computer
[02:33] <RkwAsyik> ahyeop
[02:33] <bullgard4> df shows for /dev/sda7  "available 519712 (kB)", but Gedit "free: 1,04 GiB." How to explain this contradiction? (http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/15665/)
[02:33] <IdleOne> !sound | rm130
[02:33] <ubotu> rm130: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:33] <ganes2>  ikonia:i din get anything from ubotu..
[02:33] <RkwAsyik> !drupal malaysia
[02:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drupal malaysia - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:33] <TheSkorm> NEWS UPDATE : ihug international tubes are broke
[02:33] <ikonia> !ati >ganes2
[02:33] <gnomefreak> jiahoukang: dont do that, thank you
[02:33] <ikonia> ganes2: how about now
[02:33] <RkwAsyik> drupal
[02:33] <RkwAsyik> !drupal
[02:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drupal - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:34] <Meroigo__> I have a ATI Radeon Radeon 8500LE for my Ubuntu, it worked instantly with Ubuntu 7.06 and it can hardware render 3D without configuration. I'm getting a ATI Radeon 9600 Club 3D later today. Will I be able to just turn off the computer, remove the old card, insert the new, start the computer and everything will probably just work and be just fine? :P
[02:34] <rm130> IdleOne, I don't see volulme control...I see mixer options
[02:34] <ganes2>  ikonia:ya i got..
[02:34] <rm130> mixer settings*
[02:34] <xjkx> please tell me what it means here http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download : "Ubuntu 7.04 - Supported to 2008"  "Ubuntu 6.06 LTS - Supported to 2009" how come 6.0 is supported to 2009 and 7.x to 2008, what does it mea
[02:34] <xjkx> mean
[02:34] <Drew777> how do I mount a new drive in Edgy?
[02:34] <gnomefreak> TheSkorm: please stay on topic
[02:34] <ikonia> ganes2 super
[02:34] <TheSkorm> gnomefreak: roger
[02:35] <Pici> xjkx: 6.06 is an LTS (Long Term Support) release, 7.04 is not.
[02:35] <ikonia> ganes2: thats the instructions on installing the ati driver, you may still have problems, but its the best guide at he moment, and the drivers are hit and miss
[02:35] <rm130> you there?
[02:35] <IdleOne> xjkx: 6.06 is a Long term Support release so it is going to be supported for a longer period of time
[02:35] <xjkx> why
[02:35] <Pici> xjkx: Mainly for use in business environments, so they don't need to upgrade every 6 months.
[02:36] <IdleOne> !ati | Meroigo__  look up your card and see if it is supported
[02:36] <ubotu> Meroigo__  look up your card and see if it is supported: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:36] <xjkx> Pici, yea but why not support 7.x to 2009 also, business arent using 7.x ?
[02:36] <Drew777> xjkx, if you want all the latest stuff on the desktop go for the new releases not the LTS
[02:36] <Meroigo__> !ati
[02:36] <Pici> xjkx: Because making things LTS takes work.
[02:36] <Wikzo> Anyone good at Compiz Fusion? I got it on my 7.04 desktop, but I have been told to remove it before upgrading to 7.10. Can you please help me by answering this thread. Thanks! - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=566509
[02:36] <xjkx> oh. lts is like stable of debian
[02:37] <Meroigo__> didn't get anything from command "!ati".
[02:37] <IdleOne> xjkx: 7.04 and 7.10 due this month will be supported for upto 18 months
[02:37] <ikonia> xjkx 18 months is good for bleeding edge support
[02:37] <xjkx> what kind of support we are talking about
[02:37] <IdleOne> Meroigo__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:37] <ikonia> xjkx community and developer
[02:37] <Meroigo__> oh
[02:37] <Meroigo__> :p
[02:38] <Drew777> Can anyone tell me if the standard way to add a new disk (in Edgy) is to add a line to fstab?
[02:38] <xjkx> uhm..i might download a tls, problem is that i will have old softwares right?
[02:38] <xjkx> although they are tested
[02:38] <ikonia> Drew777 thats fine
[02:38] <ikonia> xjkx define old
[02:38] <ikonia> xjkx its all about your personal requirments
[02:39] <xjkx> ikonia, old = not the latest
[02:39] <ikonia> xjkx then yes, you will have old software on some products
[02:39] <Meroigo__> IdleOne, well, that page didn't say much. But don't you think that if I have a card now that's radeon and works out of the box, isn't there a big chance the new will? It's not a new card i'm getting, it's pretty old, but newer than the one I have. Oh, and if it doesn't work. can i just change back to my old card and everything will be exactly like it were before, without ubuntu changing and ruining configuration because it fou
[02:39] <Meroigo__> nd a new card before?
[02:39] <Drew777> ikonia, I was about to do that but I saw the format of it looks a bit funny with UUID= all over the place
[02:39] <ikonia> xjkx ahh your using blkid
[02:39] <bryanl> anyone here running cedaga and steam on their ubuntu box?
[02:39] <ikonia> xjkx: ignore that - sorry
[02:39] <bryanl> hows it working out?
[02:40] <ikonia> Drew777 ahh your using block id
[02:40] <pike_> ive heard the 9200 cards are the sweet spot for open drivers. may or maynot be true
[02:40] <Drew777> ikonia, ok... what's that?
[02:40] <ikonia> Drew777 you need to do "blkid" and match it up to the disk you've added, then add that to /etc/fstab
[02:40] <xjkx> ikonia, will have to do, since i have no idea of whats that :p
[02:40] <ikonia> in the same way as your other entries
[02:40] <ikonia> xjkx sent it to the wrong person, sorry
[02:40] <Meroigo__> IdleOne, oh, there was a follow up link on the page. I'll bookmark it if i get trouble. :)
[02:40] <Drew777> ikonia, this is a standard Edgy install is that normal?
[02:41] <ikonia> Drew777 yes
[02:41] <IdleOne> Meroigo__: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport check this list and see if your card is listed. and no just because 1 card works doesnt mean all cards from the manufacturer will work. but I hope it will for you
[02:41] <mmc> how can I build a kernel  w/o building more than 1   build/* directory?  I want just 1 target
[02:41] <ganes2> ikonia:yesterday when i enabled ati card in restricted driver manager..i installed some driver from update manager..how can i see whether driver installed or not?
[02:41] <ikonia> mmc why do you want a new kernel
[02:41] <Drew777> ikonia, oh ok, I'll have a read up
[02:41] <ikonia> ganes2 if its enabled in update manager, its installed
[02:41] <ikonia> !blkid
[02:41] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  sudo blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[02:41] <mmc> ikonia: I have my own patch i want to build with.
[02:41] <ikonia>  there you go
[02:41] <Meroigo__> IdleOne, okay, and if i put back the old card that worked, will ubuntu have changed things just by booting with the new card so it wont work anymore?
[02:42] <IdleOne> Meroigo__: the old card should be detected the second time it is installed
[02:42] <ikonia> mmc so download the ubuntu source, patch it, build it
[02:43] <ganes2> ikonia:ok...whats copmpiz fusion?compiz,beryl, which would be better?
[02:43] <Meroigo__> IdleOne, thanks for all your support :)
[02:43] <mmc> ikonia:  it has been  building for several hours now ..... I see   build-generic/       build-server/  build-386/   in the debian/build directory.   So i would like to say   build only the -386 one!
[02:44] <IdleOne> Meroigo__: np dude . anytime
[02:44] <ikonia> ganes2 compiz fusion is the current product. However you are better waiting for ubuntu 7.10 release in a week or so's time (18/10)
[02:44] <ikonia> mmc they should onlt conftain the .config files
[02:44] <RkwAsyik> pls me 0ne bot server my room radiokita
[02:44] <ikonia> RkwAsyik pardon ?
[02:44] <IdleOne> think he wants a chanserv bot in his channel
[02:45] <_Lucretia_> well that's fucked up my locale now
[02:45] <IdleOne> !ohmy | _Lucretia_
[02:45] <ubotu> _Lucretia_: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:45] <dgjones_> ikonia, he was looking for a Malaysian channel a few minutes ago
[02:45] <Downix> Hey _Lucretia_ , what brings you here?
[02:45] <ikonia> dgjones_ ahh well done
[02:45] <Drew777> ikonia, thanks for the help I'll give it a go
[02:45] <ikonia> Drew777 no problem, shout if it goes wrong
[02:46] <maxtorr> Is compiz for the desktop effects?
[02:46] <_Lucretia_> Downix: on ubuntu and trying to get the latest aros source, but cannot get an en_GB.ISO-8859-1 locale, and now it won't go back to UTF8
[02:46] <ikonia> Drew777 correct
[02:46] <gnomefreak> maxtorr: it is desktop effects
[02:46] <maxtorr> ok
[02:46] <ikonia> ughh
[02:46] <maxtorr> So i found out whe ni do compiz in the console
[02:46] <maxtorr> Blacklisted PCIID '8086:2a02' found
[02:46] <ikonia> Drew777: sorry that was meant for maxtor,r, sorry, I'm laccking
[02:46] <ikonia> lagging
[02:46] <maxtorr> can you remove hardware from the blacklist
[02:46] <Wikzo> Anyone good at Compiz Fusion? I got it on my 7.04 desktop, but I have been told to remove it before upgrading to 7.10. Can you please help me by answering this thread. Thanks! - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=566509
[02:46] <skitzor> can someone help me with ubunty audio hardware?
[02:47] <maxtorr> So my question is: how do i remove hardware from the compiz blacklist
[02:47] <gnomefreak> maxtorr: you must be using a blacklisted video card (cant remember why i think it was due to some cards just not working with it
[02:47] <ikonia> Wikzo how did you install it ?
[02:47] <gnomefreak> maxtorr: join #ubuntu-effects and ask
[02:48] <IdleOne> ikonia: gnomefreak ati or nvidia? if I am in the market for a new card?
[02:48] <maxtorr> no it is workin with it, buts its blacklisted for some kind of unimportant error, and i just cant find out how to remove it
[02:48] <ikonia> Wikzo current - nvidia
[02:48] <ikonia> oops
[02:48] <ikonia> sorry
[02:48] <Wikzo> See my link (Ubuntuforums) :) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=566509
[02:48] <ikonia> IdleOne currently nvidia
[02:48] <ikonia> Wikzo no - how did you install it,
[02:48] <IdleOne> ok thanks
[02:48] <ikonia> IdleOne no contest
[02:48] <rm130> how do I enable ALSA?
[02:48] <pid1> deftrfh
[02:48] <ikonia> IdleOne 2 years time - maybe ati
[02:48] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: intell 965 should be black listed most nvidias work (except latest i think)
[02:48] <Wikzo> ikonia: I used this guidehttp://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-Compiz-Fusion-on-Ubuntu-58113.shtml
[02:48] <pike_> rm130: where?
[02:49] <pid1> da disgassa
[02:49] <rm130> pike_, so I can get sound working
[02:49] <IdleOne> ikonia: gnomefreak thanks guys will search for a supported card to buy now :)
[02:49] <rm130> I don't see volume control all I see is mixer settings
[02:49] <pike_> rm130: does the first drum sound when login screen appears work?
[02:49] <pid1> um ovo
[02:49] <gnomefreak> pid1: what do you want?
[02:49] <rm130> I just here a beep from my machine when the login screen appers
[02:50] <rm130> appears*
[02:50] <dgjones_> !br | pid1
[02:50] <ubotu> pid1: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[02:50] <pid1>  zerro(cdfyrbykkgkii7u uhyjkn iuhyo8n
[02:50] <gnomefreak> dgjones_: thats not portugues afaik
[02:50] <skitzor> gnomefreak, i cant get my realtek audio to work, using feisty 7.04
[02:50] <Wikzo> ikonia: I used this guide: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-Compiz-Fusion-on-Ubuntu-58113.shtml
[02:51] <gnomefreak> skitzor: and did you try asking the channel instead of me
[02:51] <dgjones_> gnomefreak, i was working on the country showing up in the users info on xchat
[02:51] <pid1> pid1 jones has quit
[02:51] <skitzor> gnomefreek no, thought u were the specialist, sorry
[02:51] <pike_> rm130: im far from a sound guru kind of the antethisis of one..
[02:51] <skitzor> gnomefreak no, thought u were the specialist, sorry
[02:51] <gnomefreak> skitzor: not in sound that would be insane
[02:51] <pike_> !sound | rm130 try this
[02:51] <ubotu> rm130 try this: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:51] <skitzor> i cant get my realtek audio to work, using feisty 7.04
[02:51] <ikonia> Wikzo: so apt-get remove the packages you installed
[02:52] <ikonia> and put desktop-effects back
[02:52] <rm130> yeah the thing is I don't see volume control..all I see is mixer settings
[02:52] <Wikzo> ikonia: Is this the right one to remove? compiz-core
[02:52] <Wikzo> compiz
[02:52] <Wikzo> compiz-fusion-plugins-extra
[02:52] <Wikzo> compiz-fusion-plugins-main
[02:52] <Wikzo> compiz-plugins
[02:52] <MoNsTeR> does anybody know how to change the text of the taskbar
[02:52] <Wikzo> compizconfig-settings-manager
[02:52] <Wikzo> desktop-effects
[02:52] <Wikzo> ubuntu-desktop
[02:52] <Wikzo> compiz-gnome
[02:52] <gnomefreak> Wikzo: use pastebin please
[02:52] <Wikzo> libdecoration0
[02:52] <ikonia> Wikzo remove the ones your installed in that guide
[02:52] <Wikzo> libcompizconfig-backend-gconf
[02:52] <Wikzo> python-compizconfig
[02:53] <Wikzo> gnomefreak: Sorry, dunno what that is
[02:53] <MoNsTeR> not the text but the color of the text
[02:53] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[02:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:53] <gnomefreak> Wikzo: ^^^
[02:53] <skitzor> i cant get my realtek audio to work, using feisty 7.04...
[02:53] <Traveler9> bonjour
[02:53] <Wikzo> gnomefreak: Which one should I choose if I'm gonna post it in here?
[02:53] <Traveler9> qqn parle francais?
[02:53] <Wikzo> gnomefreak: Which syntax?
[02:53] <MoNsTeR> does anybody know how to change the color of text on the taskbar
[02:54] <RkwAsyik> me register rom radiokita
[02:54] <heguru> !fr | Traveler9
[02:54] <ubotu> Traveler9: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:54] <gnomefreak> Wikzo: it doesnt matter the syntax just paste it to site and hit continue or post or whatever it says than give us the new address it gives you
[02:54] <acuster> is there a time management app in ubuntu? or several?
[02:54] <acuster> preferably of the gnome persuasion
[02:55] <Wikzo> gnomefreak: Thanks, I'll use that next time! :)
[02:55] <xjkx> whats the difference between the desktop and the server iso ? I am a desktop user but i use many servers, like apache and mysql, for studying purposes, you think i'd fit better where, the server doesnt come with gnome? :p
[02:55] <ikonia>  xjkx desktop
[02:55] <ikonia> xjkx use the desktop version
[02:55] <aftertaf> acuster : keyword search in synaptic...
[02:55] <ikonia> xjkx server version is aimed at server hardware, with multi-user operations in mind
[02:56] <Downix> I have the server version on my dual-dual cores
[02:56] <_Lucretia_> back to normal locale now
[02:56] <ikonia> Downix is that relevant ?
[02:56] <genii> xjkx: If you use apache,mysql and php there is a metapackage, ubuntu-lamp    which can be installed
[02:57] <Downix> ikonia, nope.
[02:59] <Dan> hi
[02:59] <pike_> xjkx: server version is what i always start with. its basically just a stripped down desktop install.
[02:59] <ikonia> pike_: no its not
[03:00] <pike_> other than kernel i dont see difference
[03:00] <ikonia> pretty core diference
[03:00] <pike_> like what?
[03:00] <ikonia> the kernel
[03:00] <maxtorr> Hello, i have a question: how do i remove hardware from the compiz blacklis
[03:00] <pike_> ikonia: ok ill give you that ;p
[03:00] <ikonia> maxtorr: you where asked to join #ubuntu-effects and ask in that
[03:00] <mydokumen> chafid...!
[03:03] <maxtorr> Nobody reacts there
[03:03] <ikonia> best to wait
[03:04] <MoNsTeR> does anybody know how to change the color of text on the taskbar
[03:04] <MoNsTeR> cause i want a black taskbar with white text
[03:04] <MoNsTeR> cause thats how i role
[03:04] <ikonia> MoNsTeR create a theme
[03:04] <ikonia> "thats how I role" ?
[03:05] <MoNsTeR> ikonia, im not that smart with linux yet
[03:05] <Pici> !themes > MoNsTeR (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[03:05] <Pici> MoNsTeR: Read that message on how to get different themes
[03:05] <heguru> MoNsTeR: then maybe you should try some of the existing themes available on the internet
[03:05] <MoNsTeR> yeah but where do i put them
[03:05] <MoNsTeR> i use emerald
[03:05] <MoNsTeR> for my themes
[03:06] <ikonia> MoNsTeR: read the link pici sent you through ubotu
[03:07] <Downix> If I switched from ATI to nVidia would that fix my display issues?
[03:07] <ikonia> Downix what are your display issues ?
[03:08] <Downix> ikonia:  on a 3D game through cedega I get the 2D GUI elements, but not the 3D renders
[03:08] <MoNsTeR> ikonia, i did read it
[03:08] <ikonia> Downix probably not
[03:08] <MoNsTeR> Downix, i would try the restricted drivers
[03:08] <Downix> MoNsTeR, I did
[03:09] <Downix> didn't run at all there, saying no glx, nor did any Linux games
[03:09] <ikonia> wnix> didn't run at all there, saying no glx, nor did any Linux games
[03:09] <_Lucretia_> Downix: dounds like a cedega problem
[03:09] <Pici> Downix: Have you looked on the Cedega Application Database to see if thats a typical issue with the game.
[03:09] <Downix> Pici:  checked, first time they'd ever heard that problem.
[03:09] <ikonia> Downix if it didn't run with glx your card may not be supported or configured correctly
[03:10] <MoNsTeR> well can anybody help me with the text on the taskbar
[03:10] <_Lucretia_> Downix: i'd say that their dx->gl isn't setting up the projection matrix to be 3d again after doing the 2d
[03:10] <Downix> ikonia, It didn't with the restricted drivers, but did when I manually installed the latest ATI drivers
[03:10] <ikonia> MoNsTeR you've been sent a link that tells you how to install themes, what part is not clear
[03:10] <mike__> hi guys, I would be extremely grateful for some help getting my sound card recognized!
[03:10] <ikonia> Downix the latest often have compatability problems
[03:10] <Downix> _Lucretia_, that was my thought, but not sure how to correct that
[03:10] <Pici> MoNsTeR: You can't change that without using a different theme.
[03:11] <_Lucretia_> Downix: you using the restricted ati drivers? if you're using the new oss ones, they don't support 3d yet do they?
[03:11] <Downix> ikonia, Hmm.  The restricted tho was missing GLX
[03:11] <Downix> _Lucretia_, The closed from AMD/ATI
[03:11] <_Lucretia_> Downix: if it is cedega's problem, you won't be able to
[03:11] <_Lucretia_> hmm
[03:11] <ikonia> Downix I'm just giving you facts and opinions, I didn't say there was a fix
[03:11] <BusMaster> which is the help channel for openoffice? I tried /join #openoffice, but it seems like the wrong channel
[03:11] <Downix> ikonia, indeed.  Debating on just buying a cheap nVidia card as a stop-gap
[03:11] <Pici> BusMaster: #openoffice.org
[03:12] <BusMaster> Pici, thanks
[03:12] <dmitri> hy guys.does anybody know how can i make write something and make a .pdf file from console?
[03:13] <HuricaneHarry> dmitri: latex, dvi2pdf ?
[03:13] <Downix> ikonia, If it's a PCI card even better, then I can put it in my sons comp once ATI gets their act together
[03:13] <Downix> hmm
[03:13] <magnet> pdflatex ftw
[03:13] <dmitri> HuricaneHarry: and how do i make that?
[03:13] <steel_lady> I noticed something in ubuntu that I don't know if it is considered like a bug or is it supposed to function this way
[03:15] <dshuang001> Hello everyone, i am a new comer.
[03:15] <Pici> steel_lady: Whats up?
[03:15] <IdleOne> !hi | dshuang001
[03:15] <ubotu> dshuang001: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:15] <magnet> hello newcomer
[03:15] <Downix> the problem is, I can only find PCI-E, not PCI cards
[03:15] <HuricaneHarry> dmitri: cant help you there, just a pointer what to look for.
[03:15] <soundray> magnet: subtle :)
[03:15] <dmitri> ok 10x
[03:15] <dmitri> :)
[03:15] <mike__> does anyone on here have experience with sound card troubles with Ubuntu? I upgraded from Feisty to Gutsy and now it does not recognize and sound cards installed
[03:16] <MoNsTeR> Pici, are you serious give me that link again please
[03:16] <magnet> :)
[03:16] <Pici> !themes > MoNsTeR (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[03:16] <danielax> mike__: gutsy? Try #ubuntu+1
[03:16] <Pici> !changetheme > MoNsTeR (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[03:16] <magnet> dmitri: what do you want to do specificly?
[03:16] <steel_lady> Pici, since I was long term win user, I was used to mark some text and copy and I have it in temporal memory until rewritten with something else so I am able to paste it anywhere without any conditions
[03:16] <MoNsTeR> Pici, i use emerald and beryl thats why i didnt think it was going to work
[03:16] <coldboot> I just installed Ubuntu, and none of my italic fonts are rendering. That means every single font displays empty squares when it's set to italics. Bold works fine. Anyone have any ideas? Googling has rendered nothing so far...
[03:17] <soundray> !sound > mike__, have a look at this advice (private message) and ask more specifically if this doesn't help
[03:17] <dshuang001> Anyone can tell me how to change color of my nick and time or even my message? thanks.
[03:17] <magnet> steel_lady: the copy paste behavior is not the same as on Windows, it's not a bug but it should become uniform in the next 10 years don't worry ;)
[03:17] <Pici> steel_lady: That sounds like the typical function of the clipboard...
[03:17] <MoNsTeR> Pici, but i dont see theme on the navigation bar
[03:17] <steel_lady> Pici, because of that habbit, I am constantly annoyed in Ubuntu when I copy something, weather is text or link and I close the window and open the other program and I can not paste it
[03:17] <steel_lady> magnet uniform in which way?
[03:17] <Pici> MoNsTeR: Thats a GTK theme, you'd need to find one of those.
[03:17] <blueflower> chaky
[03:18] <soundray> steel_lady: have a look at glipper
[03:18] <magnet> steel_lady: in the way that Mac, Windows & GNU distros will have the same (as the one currently on Windows/Mac)
[03:18] <Pici> steel_lady: or kipper if you use KDE
[03:18] <blueflower> chaky
[03:18] <Pici> blueflower: ?
[03:18] <soundray> Pici: kipper is a smoked herring ;)
[03:18] <IdleOne> mmmmm fish
[03:19] <Pici> steel_lady, soundray: er. I meant klipper ;)
[03:19] <vargran> I don't have a network and I have ubuntu 7.04. how do I install 2.6.22 kernel?
[03:19] <steel_lady> I have gnome
[03:19] <IdleOne> Pici: why would you want to eat dolphin?
[03:19] <blueflower> bandung
[03:19] <Pici> But if a fish helps you with the clipboard, more power to you.
[03:19] <magnet> for now you can somehow solve your problem copy/pasting using X (highlightning/middle mouse button)
[03:19] <steel_lady> OK, I am installing glipper
[03:19] <IdleOne> lol
[03:19] <soundray> vargran: best way is to upgrade to gutsy. Wait until it comes out in a couple of weeks, though.
[03:19] <IdleOne> klipper
[03:19] <MoNsTeR> Pici, then once i get the theme how do i install it
[03:20] <erUSUL> magnet: you loose the clippboard too if you close the original window iirc
[03:20] <magnet> erUSUL: wait i'll check
[03:20] <Pici> MoNsTeR: Read the second thing I sent you about changing the themes.  Usually you can just drag the tar.gz file onto the themes window.
[03:20] <magnet> ;)
[03:20] <Hosky> Anyone have experience putting 7.04 or 7.10 on SunFire boxes?
[03:20] <vargran> soundray: I don't have a network under linux. it says NETWATCH DOG: eth0: transmit timed out
[03:20] <soundray> erUSUL: oh no, you've made him use Windows ;)
[03:20] <steel_lady> meantime, does anybody have idea how to save a 4G SD memory card that ubuntu first wrote some chinese letters instead of the song and then it became unreadable?
[03:21] <magnet> soundray: I'm not rich enough :'(
[03:21] <soundray> vargran: I see, so you were hoping to fix this by upgrading the kernel?
[03:21] <vargran> yes
[03:21] <magnet> steel_lady: formatting it?
[03:22] <diky> hai
[03:22] <magnet> do you want to save the key or its content?
[03:22] <steel_lady> magnet, the problem is that it soes not detect it any more
[03:22] <vargran> soundray: people with similar problem updated the kernel and problem was gone. other solutions didn't help
[03:22] <soundray> vargran: what is this "netwatch dog" -- something you installed?
[03:22] <dshuang001> test
[03:22] <IdleOne> dshuang001: answer
[03:22] <skitzor> Can someone help me get sound out of my Realtec hda 260 audiocard, my laptop is a pb easynote 7900
[03:23] <erUSUL> !sound | skitzor
[03:23] <ubotu> skitzor: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:23] <magnet> steel_lady:  well that's bad then, the key is surely dead, plug it then type "dmesg | tail" into a shell, see if it talks about your key anyhow
[03:23] <Downix> hmmm
[03:23] <MoNsTeR> Pici, i did but it didnt show up in the menu :9
[03:23] <Downix> **debating on options**
[03:23] <soundray> !intelhda > skitzor, this might also help (private message)
[03:23] <MoNsTeR> :(
[03:23] <vmlinuz`> whats the command to change from gdm to kdm in the login window
[03:23] <Pici> MoNsTeR: It'll show up in the customize theme dialog.
[03:23] <Downix> maybe I should just buy a new nVidia mobo for my sons comp
[03:23] <steel_lady> magnet, what do you refer to as key?
[03:23] <Pici> vmlinuz`: `sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm`
[03:23] <MoNsTeR> Pici, thanks
[03:23] <vargran> soundray: no it's kernel service as I understand. the problem is that when I'm trying to do something with network everything dies and I got that message in syslog
[03:24] <Downix> that would make him happy
[03:24] <yo1> Hey. Does anyone know anything about a common problem me and (what I can tell) a few others suffers from - OpenGL (ati/nvidia, doesn't matter) applications take up 100% of the CPU (atleast on one core at a time). I've been googling and forum trolling like crazy but never found any good solution.
[03:24] <magnet> steel_lady: oops SD card, not USB key, well it's just the same from your system point of view
[03:24] <soundray> vargran: okay -- so you don't have a way to upgrade that machine?
[03:24] <skitzor> erUSUL ty will try the community
[03:24] <vmlinuz`> Pici: does that change the *out look* of the login manager?
[03:24] <Downix> yo1, sounds like you're software rendering
[03:24] <erUSUL> skitzor: no problem
[03:24] <Djoef> hello, what can i use to play mmf files ?
[03:24] <Pici> vmlinuz`: It asks you to choose between kdm and gdm iirc
[03:25] <yo1> Downix: Aye, although, fglrxinfo and glxinfo shows that I got ATi's OpenGL running, no mesa whatsoever
[03:25] <vargran> soundray: it doesn't have network. at all
[03:25] <vmlinuz`> Pici: yea but then the login window will be the exact same?
[03:25] <steel_lady> magnet, I have internal card reader but also USB 'pendrive' reader where I can insert it. Is there any difference between trying one or another?
[03:25] <Downix> yo1:  very strange.  Which apps?
[03:25] <coldboot> Some of my fonts don't display in italics on a fresh Ubuntu install, anyone have any ideas what to check?
[03:25] <magnet> steel_lady: yes.
[03:25] <Djoef> no one ? mmf player ?
[03:26] <magnet> steel_lady: try both :)
[03:26] <stephan_> do you speak dutch???
[03:26] <yo1> Downix: Doesn't matter. I've tried a few games (tuxracer for example)
[03:26] <magnet> !nl
[03:26] <mike__> soundray: thanks for the help, I am trying it out now...
[03:26] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[03:26] <Downix> Djoef, Yamaha SMAF sound file format created for mobile devices; commonly used for cell phone ring tones
[03:26] <MoNsTeR> Pici, how come the fonts are really droopy
[03:26] <Djoef> yes
[03:27] <Djoef> Downix: yes, thats what i want to play
[03:27] <MoNsTeR> Pici, they look really blurry
[03:27] <scguy318> !nl | stephan_
[03:27] <ubotu> stephan_: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[03:27] <Pici> MoNsTeR: Change the font antialiasing then
[03:28] <MoNsTeR> prefrences>font?
[03:28] <Pici> MoNsTeR: Yes.
[03:28] <Hosky> Djoef: have you tried mplayer and vlc ?
[03:28] <MoNsTeR> Pici, thanks
[03:28] <steel_lady> magnet, I plugged in  the USB reader, typed d  mesg | tail and got this: http://pastebin.com/m29baedbf
[03:28] <Downix> Djoef, I can't find a player for any OS, only conversion utilities
[03:28] <Djoef> :(
[03:28] <magnet> steel_lady: well looks like it's not dead after all :P
[03:29] <steel_lady> magnet really?
[03:29] <magnet> steel_lady: does it not show up in your file explorer?
[03:29] <Djoef> Hosky: mplayer doesnt do it
[03:29] <steel_lady> no it does not magnet
[03:29] <magnet> steel_lady: do you wish to get the data back or just be able to use it again?
[03:29] <NewGuyCanada> hi all. I was just on the Ubuntu site... maybe I'm an idiot, but i'm trying to d/l an installer for PowerPC, and while there is some reference to that there are versions that will work on my machine, there is no reference in the download page as to which one i should use.
[03:29] <NewGuyCanada> any ideas?
[03:29] <Carsten-> hi guys.. ive just installed gusty beta, since i have done it, i have lost the title bar to all my windows.. I assume this has something to do with compiz, is there a work around?
[03:30] <steel_lady> magnet, at least to use it again if not other
[03:30] <peol> steel_lady: try mount it manually (mount -t vfat /dev/sdb /to/this/dir)
[03:30] <Matir> Carsten-, are they all white?
[03:30] <kst> i think my mozembed is not installed or broken.. how do i install it again? how come it doesnt show up in synaptic?
[03:30] <Carsten-> no
[03:30] <magnet> steel_lady: it can be tricky to get data back, so if you want to use it again (no guarantee), you should just format it to fat32
[03:30] <Meroigo__> is it hard to install two monitors with an ATI Radeon 6600XT card? :P if someone here have done it.
[03:30] <Carsten-> just no title bar at the top of each window
[03:30] <steel_lady> peol, to which dir should I mount it?
[03:30] <soundray> vargran: I can think of different ways to approach this. Probably the easiest is to download and burn the Alternate CD on another computer, tie it in as a software source and upgrade the kernel with that.
[03:31] <coldboot> Many of my fonts won't display italics, anyone know what might be wrong?
[03:31] <peol> steel_lady: up to you, preferably create a dir in /media/
[03:31] <magnet> steel_lady: ls /dev/sdb* first to see if you have the device files
[03:31] <pike_> NewGuyCanada: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=427714   fyi
[03:31] <kst> !mozembed
[03:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mozembed - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:31] <Meroigo__> 9600 *
[03:31] <steel_lady> magnet no such file or directory
[03:32] <magnet> steel_lady: did you not forget the "*" ?
[03:32] <steel_lady> peol, should I create some dir in /media previously?
[03:32] <peol> steel_lady: follow magnet's instructions before to see if it actually found the device
[03:32] <magnet> steel_lady: you won't be able to do what peol says if the device files arent there
[03:33] <NewGuyCanada> >>Pike_ thanks!!
[03:33] <steel_lady> magnet I did not
[03:34] <magnet> steel_lady: try: ls /dev/disk/by-path/*usb*
[03:34] <Hosky> anyone installed Ubuntu on SunFire? Ultraspac III
[03:34] <magnet> (if you're using the USB pen thingy)
[03:35] <RkwAsyik> pls me bot
[03:35] <MoNsTeR> Pici, gosh i cant really get it to look nice :(
[03:35] <RkwAsyik> to room radiokita
[03:35] <speed_> hi all
[03:35] <steel_lady> ls: /dev/disk/by-path/*usb*: No such file or directory
[03:35] <soundray> !hi | speed_
[03:35] <ubotu> speed_: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:35] <magnet> steel_lady: did you plug your SD card in the USB reader?
[03:36] <steel_lady> magnet jes of course
[03:36] <sahil> hey when i pop in a cd, i dont have any icon on my desktop, how can i get it to display an icon?
[03:36] <magnet> steel_lady: hum that's bad :) are you using 7.04?
[03:36] <soundray> sahil: make sure that it automounts. System-Preferences-Removable drives...
[03:37] <Rageon> hey heguru : is VNC thru tunnel the only way to remote desktop?
[03:37] <sahil> soundray, it does, because if i go to the home folder, then on the side i can see it and i can browse it and everything
[03:37] <steel_lady> magnet yes I am and it happened to me after I uppgraded. I didn't have so many problems in previous versions
[03:37] <heguru> Rageon: its one of the ways
[03:37] <heguru> Rageon: if you are using vnc on LAN and not on internet
[03:37] <soundray> Rageon: no, you can VNC directly (insecure) or look at FreeNX
[03:38] <heguru> Rageon: then no need to worry about security
[03:38] <Rageon> yea its for LAN
[03:38] <magnet> steel_lady: did you upgrade using a new CD or through the upgrade procedure? (dist-upgrade/shiny button/whatever)
[03:38] <Rageon> but it needs to be HIGH security
[03:38] <heguru> Rageon: oh
[03:38] <Rageon> and i see VNC sniffers everywhere :s
[03:38] <RkwAsyik> pls join radiokita room
[03:38] <heguru> Rageon: then use vnc over ssh
[03:38] <heguru> Rageon: do you want to try it?
[03:38] <Rageon> yea ok.. i dont haveto enable remote login do i?
[03:38] <heguru> Rageon: yes you have to on the server
[03:39] <heguru> Rageon: remote desktop
[03:39] <Rageon> :s
[03:39] <Rageon> ok
[03:39] <heguru> Rageon: System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop
[03:39] <steel_lady> magnet I had problems upgrading, at the end I think I did it from CD but I am not sure. It asks for a CD often when I want to reinstall something or do some special operation. it reminds me of win this way
[03:39] <Rageon> ok yup
[03:39] <magnet> steel_lady: you can disable its asking of the CD easily
[03:39] <coldboot> Italic fonts are not displaying at all on my system, anyone know what to search for?
[03:40] <peol> steel_lady: you might have the CD as a repos in /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:40] <magnet> steel_lady: as for the SD card I'm afraid it will be hard to solve through IRC :)
[03:40] <soundray> coldboot: is this a fresh install?
[03:40] <vmlinuz`> anybody have uses SCIM before?
[03:40] <INTIM> hi all i just installed VMware and Ubuntu 7.4 on vista lol tryin to test it and take a deeper look at linux
[03:40] <coldboot> soundray: Yeah, pretty much.
[03:40] <danielax> Offtopic, sorry - keystroke to get irssi ot refresh it's screen size?
[03:40] <heguru> Rageon: make sure you Uncheck "Ask you for confirmation"
[03:40] <coldboot> soundray: I just did a dist-upgrade after installing 7.04, and installed a few programs.
[03:40] <heguru> Rageon: and check Require the user to enter this password
[03:41] <coldboot> soundray: I barely fiddled with it.
[03:41] <Rageon> ok
[03:41] <nanonyme> danielax, ^L is redraw in irssi if that's what you mean
[03:41] <heguru> Rageon: and then enter a VNC password
[03:41] <coldboot> soundray: Any ideas?
[03:41] <danielax> ah - thk
[03:41] <soundray> coldboot: this kind of problem worries me enough that, if it was my system, I'd do a reinstall. Who knows what else went wrong.
[03:41] <steel_lady> magnet, do you believe that there is a way to resurrect 4GB SD? Now I put it to another USB and the little light didn't turn off
[03:41] <Rageon> and it uses a ssh but itself?
[03:41] <Rageon> by*
[03:41] <INTIM> btw like games< than go here ALien Arena for linux too red,planetarena.org
[03:41] <soundray> coldboot: you could always save the contents of the package cache, so you don't have to re-download.
[03:41] <heguru> Rageon: no
[03:41] <steel_lady> magnet suddenly something happened
[03:41] <heguru> Rageon: you have to use ssh from your client
[03:42] <magnet> steel_lady: there may be a way, it's hard to tell if the hardware is broken or not from here :)
[03:42] <nanonyme> danielax, if you're talking about terminal size, detach everything from the screen and then reattach and it should resize automatically
[03:42] <Rageon> mmk
[03:42] <magnet> steel_lady: what happened? :)
[03:42] <soundray> INTIM: no spamming please
[03:42] <heguru> Rageon: first, you have to install ssh server on the server side
[03:42] <INTIM> lol ok
[03:42] <INTIM> im usin xchat from linux
[03:42] <vmlinuz`> SCIM is using my binding... I do some hits in keyboard that are suppose to do something, and it changes language. how to fix that please
[03:42] <INTIM> tryin out progs later all
[03:43] <steel_lady> magnet http://pastebin.com/m90df2be
[03:43] <magnet> steel_lady: wow that's bad
[03:43] <magnet> steel_lady: your kernel just Oopsed
[03:43] <coldboot> soundray: That's a pretty tedious way to solve a simple problem...
[03:44] <magnet> steel_lady: something must be wrong with your hardware, hopefully it's only the SD card
[03:44] <soundray> coldboot: how do you know it's a simple problem? It may just be the tip of the iceberg.
[03:44] <powerserve> newbie here.. just want to ask anyone here on how to install collanos to a 64bit amd machine running on feisty
[03:44] <steel_lady> magnet now I am very afraid
[03:44] <steel_lady> what should I do?
[03:44] <magnet> steel_lady: most probably it's your ram or cpu
[03:44] <magnet> steel_lady: calm down first :P
[03:44] <sgp> ,  , ,  samb',    wins  dhcp
[03:45] <magnet> !ru
[03:45] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[03:45] <soundray> coldboot: if you're sure you want to go down the diagnosing/repairing route, start with the advice from ubotu (private message)
[03:45] <steel_lady> magnet I am going to get a heart attack
[03:45] <soundray> !fonts > coldboot
[03:45] <magnet> steel_lady: do I have to call 911?
[03:45] <magnet> steel_lady: ;)
[03:45] <magnet> steel_lady: come on it's not going to die on you .. not now at least
[03:45] <steel_lady> magnet rather tell me what can I do. And btw, the USB light is on, how can I remove the card safely?
[03:45] <magnet> steel_lady: what kind of computer do you have?
[03:46] <soundray> coldboot: btw, my last install-update routine took less than 30 min. I don't consider that tedious, compared to tracking a weird problem of unknown origin.
[03:46] <steel_lady> magnet I have Dell Inspiron 6400
[03:46] <Downix> steel:  replace it as fast as possible
[03:46] <magnet> steel_lady: hmm, to remove it safely you'd need the device
[03:46] <magnet> steel_lady: do you have any valuable data on one of the memory sticks?
[03:47] <Downix> steel_lady, the 6400/E1505 have a problem with the power regulation system, it's a $500 repair and not covered under warranty in most cases.
[03:47] <ckin2001> steel_lady, dont worry about that stuff from the kernel - just a core dump
[03:47] <magnet> ckin2001: "just" a core dump? :)
[03:47] <pluffsy_> hi
[03:47] <magnet> ckin2001: when your kernel oopses you shouldn't ignore it ;)
[03:47] <ckin2001> magnet, you should see what I get when I crash stuff in wine
[03:48] <magnet> ckin2001: from the kernel?
[03:48] <steel_lady> Downix, which kind of problem and how does it affect the comp?
[03:48] <ikonia> ckin2001 core dumps are critical
[03:48] <pluffsy_> I haven't been able to figure out from the hardwaresupport wikipage if apples wireless mighty mouse and apples wireless alu keyboard works under ubuntu. any ideas?
[03:48] <magnet> ckin2001: or from the userland?
[03:48] <Rageon> ive got an old XP partition that i want to delete WINDOWS off.. and not the data... now my idea is to login thru that thing u skip on installtion and to delete the files with full write accesss.. where is to set this up?
[03:48] <b0nza1> wow.. upgrade from 7.04 to gutsy was not so fun
[03:48] <Lars_G> Good dayll.
[03:48] <Lars_G> errr
[03:48] <Lars_G> good day all.
[03:48] <Lars_G> better
[03:48] <ikonia> Rageon you want to delete the windows install, but not the data on the windows partition ?
[03:48] <Rageon> thats correct
[03:49] <Downix> steel_lady, If you start getting odd switching between AC/battery, it's a sign that the system is on it's way out.  Basically, there's a small power-control system on the motherboard that sometimes goes bad.  When it does, it will not recognize when an AC adaptor is plugged up at all.  Means once the battery is dead, you have a nice paperweight.  Found out the hard way, have a paperweight here.
[03:49] <magnet> steel_lady: i doubt it's related to power regulation, this is a bad CPU or RAM problem most likely
[03:49] <Nyle> how is the gusty beta?
[03:49] <ikonia> Rageon your only option is to boot from an operating system outside of windows, , mount the ntfs parition read write and delete he windows directory
[03:49] <ikonia> Nyle in beta
[03:49] <Nyle> stable enough to use?
[03:49] <soundray> Rageon: and you're running Ubuntu dual-boot atm? Why not install ntfs-3g and delete files to your heart's desire?
[03:49] <b0nza1> Rageon: go get winxpe do a search for it..
[03:49] <ikonia> Nyle its in beta
[03:49] <soundray> Nyle: ask in #ubuntu+1
[03:49] <Downix> magnet:  quite right.  Those Inspirons RAM selection is very picky, have the wrong stick and the kernel can coredump I found out.
[03:49] <magnet> steel_lady: anyway first things first, what about valuable data? you should back them up *now* because you're comp will be in repair soon
[03:50] <Lars_G> Since a dist-upgrade is a dist-upgrade, would it be too mad to dist-upgrade directly from hoary to feisty?
[03:50] <Rageon> !ntfs-3g
[03:50] <ikonia> Lars_G it wouldn't work
[03:50] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[03:50] <soundray> Lars_G: yes. It'll never work.
[03:50] <ckin2001> magnet, the dump mentions khubd :/
[03:50] <steel_lady> magnet don't tell me that please
[03:50] <Lars_G> Sigh
[03:50] <Rageon> can i apt ntfs-3g soundray ?
[03:50] <soundray> Rageon: yes
[03:50] <scapor> Does anybody know how I could come in contact with Antoine Gutzwiller, the one who won a courtcase in France against Acer to get a laptop wihtout Windows ?  I'm about to do the same in Belgium and need help.
[03:50] <Downix> steel_lady, Has nothing to do with your current problem, just something to watch out for in the future.  How many RAM sticks do you have installed?
[03:50] <ikonia> Rageon read the links you've just called for
[03:50] <Lars_G> I'll have to dist-upgrade to dapper, and then to edgy and then to feisty?
[03:51] <soundray> !ntfs-3g > Rageon, please read the private message
[03:51] <magnet> ckin2001: mhh well you should report that :p
[03:51] <ikonia> Lars_G I don't even think you can do that
[03:51] <Rageon> their always confusing, lol
[03:51] <soundray> Lars_G: no, you'd have to upgrade to breezy first, then do as you said.
[03:51] <Lars_G> Personally I'd love to upgrade to dapper and leave it there. I might even do that and stay at dapper and compile the package I need by hand
[03:51] <Lars_G> soundray: breezy is the next to hoary?
[03:51] <Rageon> brb
[03:51] <Lars_G> soundray: what's the wiki page with release lists?
[03:51] <soundray> Lars_G: backup and reinstall. While you're at it, you might go to gutsy straight away (release date 18 Oct)
[03:52] <magnet> steel_lady: when your kernel does what it just did, 99% of the time it's because the problem is with the hardware, it's most likely the ram, is your comp still on warranty?
[03:52] <steel_lady> Downix, I went for an offer of double RAM for half price so I suppose 2 og 512MB
[03:52] <Lars_G> soundray: backup and reinstall is almost death right now. sigh
[03:52] <soundray> !release > Lars_G
[03:52] <steel_lady> magnet it is not
[03:52] <soundray> Lars_G: whiner
[03:52] <soundray> Lars_G: sorry, just kidding ;)
[03:52] <vmlinuz`> please how to remove SCIM
[03:52] <vmlinuz`> its annoying me..
[03:53] <soundray> Lars_G: why, what's the problem?
[03:53] <Downix> steel_lady, Likely one of those is the culpret.  If you're under warranty, have them swap it.  If not, take one out, try it, if it still dumps, switch to the other and check that one.  If both dump, then it's somewhere else.
[03:53] <ckin2001> steel_lady, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/83748
[03:53] <steel_lady> I had terrible problems with comp, I thought it was ram but it passed when I put another video driver
[03:53] <Rageon> soundray: im downloading ntfs-3g how do i use it once ive got it ?
[03:53] <magnet> steel_lady: mhh well; the proper course of action here would be (1) backups (2) memtests while swiching RAM sticks -- and hoping it's RAM (3) solved or you can have your heart attack at that time ;)
[03:53] <Lars_G> soundray: it's a server, and there would be an inordinate ammount of data to backup, but mainly the problem is that I don't have a fesity or dapper cd at hand right now.
[03:53] <soundray> Rageon: have you read the private message from ubotu?
[03:54] <steel_lady> but guys, that happened when I changed my sd card from 1 USB to another
[03:54] <Rageon> yer it just gave a general descibtion about the file
[03:54] <Downix> steel_lady, after this system, I gave up on Dell laptops.
[03:54] <digitalspaghetti> Hi there, I have a server running Ubuntu 7.04 with LAMP, and I'm trying to install TRAC.  So far I cannot get it to work, it keeps causing apache to segfault
[03:54] <Lars_G> I'll go fetch a few things, and install feisty from scratch
[03:54] <digitalspaghetti> i've done a backtrace, but can't see anything, i'm wondering if anyone has had the same?
[03:54] <Downix> steel_lady, very odd
[03:54] <Lars_G> I'd love to use dapper since this is a server, in text mode, so LTS is good.
[03:54] <Rageon> !ntfs-3g
[03:54] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[03:55] <magnet> steel_lady: ok ok let's say it's related to your SD card
[03:55] <soundray> Lars_G: there are ways to do a fresh install via the network -- have a look at the install page (private message)
[03:55] <magnet> steel_lady: there's a chance the driver is buggy ...
[03:55] <soundray> !install > Lars_G
[03:55] <digitalspaghetti> #trac can't see any problems either, so i'm wondering if it's a ubuntu-specific problem, i'm using repo versions
[03:55] <ckin2001> magnet, khubd manages hotplug devices, and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/83748 mentions khubd specifically "oopsing"
[03:55] <Kopfgeldjaeger> hi
[03:55] <Lars_G> But, I plant to launch to the next lts as soon as it's out (8.04 right?) and it'll be easier to jump from feisty than from dapper. plus one package I need is too outdated in dapper.
[03:55] <mike___> soundray: thanks a lot, you are awesome. That page you pointed me to got me sound finally! Let's hope that never happens again since I went through so many different attempts I have no idea which combination would be needed for next time
[03:55] <steel_lady> magnet, since I changed the system I am constantly getting problems with memory cards
[03:56] <magnet> ckin2001: OK ok :)
[03:56] <steel_lady> it is writin chinese on it
[03:56] <Lars_G> soundray: Oh I know that. Before ubuntu I've used debian for years and done more than one network install. trouble is this backbone is not TOO powerfull and I don't want to have an all-day downtime
[03:56] <Rageon> guys.. dont tell me feisty comes with ntfs-3g ?
[03:56] <soundray> mike___: well done for needing just that little hint :)
[03:56] <magnet> ckin2001: the oops steel_lady just had is related to hotplugging USB too
[03:56] <Lars_G> Rageon: Well yeah, feisty has ntfs-3g
[03:56] <Rageon> ....
[03:56] <mike___> thanks again
[03:56] <Rageon> BLAH
[03:57] <Rageon> ok so ive got ntfs-3g twice now how do i enable write access
[03:57] <Lars_G> Rageon: it's not the only ntfs driver it has though.
[03:57] <steel_lady> although on previous system I was getting a message that drivers have a problem and to report it like a bug
[03:57] <ckin2001> magnet, I know.  I didn't want you guys completely freaking her out.  It sounded like she unplugged something that khubd was managing and caused it to burp
[03:57] <Lars_G> Rageon: you need to mount using ntfs-3g as the type, and maybe specify -o rw
[03:57] <magnet> steel_lady: then the kernel part handling disks hotplugging is most definitely buggy with your system
[03:57] <soundray> Lars_G: a machine swap is out of the question?
[03:58] <Downix> steel_lady, Oh, phew, much simpler problem
[03:58] <steel_lady> but my question is in general on any system how can I at least format this card? Win doesn't see it either after ubuntu was done with it
[03:58] <Lars_G> soundray: Saddly it is, otherwise it'd be the best option. the only other machine available lacks the ammount of required network interfaces.
[03:58] <magnet> ckin2001: yeah OK my bad, I personnally never have any Oopse unless my hardware is broken. like never :).
[03:58] <coldboot> soundray: I guess it's easier than troubleshooting.
[03:58] <peol> Rageon: sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g ntfs-config
[03:58] <Lars_G> soundray: Ah well I'll make it work. I always do
[03:58] <Rageon> ty prol
[03:58] <peol> Rageon: then check your Applications -> System tools
[03:58] <Rageon> peol*
[03:59] <ckin2001> magnet, no problem.  I break stuff all the time
[03:59] <soundray> Lars_G: you must do, if you've been using Debian for that long :)
[03:59] <coldboot> soundray: Do you just overwrite everything? I have my / and /home on the same partition.
[03:59] <Innomen> how do i add xp to the menu.lst file?
[03:59] <magnet> steel_lady: you need to see the device first (e.g /dev/sdb1) then you can recreate a file system using mkfs.vfat
[03:59] <Lars_G> soundray: Heh and I used worse before. And the worst is that I LIKE fighting the machines
[03:59] <Lars_G> soundray: a smooth install is no fun
[03:59] <soundray> coldboot: either that, or use gparted to create new space by resizing.
[04:00] <stefg> Lars_G: welcome to #gentoo :-)
[04:00] <Lars_G> soundray: you know I might be able to swap systems... let me check. I wont take more of your time. thanks
[04:00] <Innomen> both os will load depending on which i flag as bootable, and the grub menu comes up, but i dont know how do add xp to the list
[04:00] <steel_lady> oh and another strange problem I am having. I was shutting down my comp before going to sleep. this morning I came and it was not shut down but it was on, the screen was black with some strange blue stains on it
[04:00] <Surger> !repos
[04:00] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[04:00] <soundray> Lars_G: good luck
[04:00] <Lars_G> stefg: been there done that. beleive it or not if you got a good cpu gentoo is a much easier server to maintain
[04:00] <Lars_G> soundray: thanks
[04:00] <magnet> steel_lady: relics from Windows ;P
[04:00] <Rageon> YES....
[04:01] <Rageon> thx guys.. ive my main problems solved all thanks to this channel :D
[04:01] <soundray> Rageon: well done
[04:01] <Downix> now if I can get 3D to work properly I'll be happy....
[04:01] <coldboot> soundray: Does gparted ever mess up?
[04:01] <steel_lady> magnet I don't understand... why from win? why it didn't turn off?
[04:01] <magnet> steel_lady: either X failed to shut down nicely (most likely) or your acpi subsystem is buggy
[04:01] <soundray> coldboot: yes, but not as often as Partition Magic :)
[04:01] <Rageon> im just the monkey typing the keys lol well done to you guys :)
[04:01] <usr13> DWonderly, What display adapter doyou have?
[04:01] <magnet> steel_lady: it was a joke, you know BSOD and everything
[04:02] <soundray> coldboot: it's vulnerable in principle to things such as powercuts
[04:02] <Lars_G> I wish you guys would stop talking about 3D
[04:02] <steel_lady> magnet I don't know what is BSOD and I have bug phobia
[04:02] <usr13> Downix, , What display adapter doyou have?
[04:02] <soundray> Lars_G: full ack
[04:02] <Innomen> !bsod
[04:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bsod - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:02] <Rageon> is supergrub better then current grub?
[04:02] <Innomen> wow
[04:02] <magnet> steel_lady: Blue Screen of Death :)
[04:02] <coldboot> soundray: I can't resize the partition I'm currently mounted and using...
[04:02] <soundray> Lars_G: who needs 3D to run bash :)
[04:02] <coldboot> soundray: This is why I use Partition magic...
[04:02] <magnet> steel_lady: can you reproduce the bug? sometimes it happens to me, but the PC isn't frozen I can switch to console and halt manually
[04:02] <Surger> !repos gdal
[04:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repos gdal - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:03] <Innomen> Rageon: super is just a boot saver, grub is like built in
[04:03] <soundray> coldboot: oh no no no, you have to do it off the live CD
[04:03] <Lars_G> My main workstation at job #2 fried. and as a result of upgrading the mobo and cpu, I was forced to discard my nvidia 6200 in favor of a built in SiS that uses the cpu bus for memory access.
[04:03] <peol> Okay, a question for ya; is "(II) GLX: Initialized MESA-PROXY GL provider for screen 0" supposed to show up in Xorg.0.log if I'm supposed to use hw acceleration?
[04:03] <Rageon> ahh ic.
[04:03] <steel_lady> magnet, how do you switch to console then?
[04:03] <Downix> usr13, ATI, and yes, I put the restricted drivers on, but when that didn't work, I installed the latest binaries from AMD directly
[04:03] <Rageon> cool :D
[04:03] <Lars_G> soundray: not really... but when edgy is so close, and with xgl working.... :'(
[04:03] <magnet> steel_lady: Alt + F1 (or F2 till F6)
[04:03] <Rageon> well thanks guys ill bb later :D
[04:03] <Innomen> supergrub is a bootimage that uses grub plus options for system recovery
[04:03] <magnet> steel_lady: Ctrl+Alt+ Fx if you're in X
[04:03] <soundray> Lars_G: umm, edgy? close?
[04:04] <Lars_G> soundray: In fact, when I'm forced to downgrade from programming in a dual monitor at 1280x1024x24 to a single monitor, at 1024x768x16 (otherwise the shared memory bus causes artifacts) and lose Xv in the process....
[04:04] <Surger> Where can I find a list of Feisty packages?
[04:04] <Lars_G> soundray: I meant Gutsy
[04:04] <Downix> usr13, Got further with the latest drivers, but it still won't display 3D.
[04:04] <magnet> steel_lady: (ie: Ctrl+Alt+F1 ) then you log in using your username/password (your password won't show anything as you type in), then type "sudo halt" to shut down the computer
[04:04] <Innomen> can someone help me with this duel boot thing?
[04:04] <Lars_G> soundray: do you know what it's like to code in two monitors. and be forced back into one? :'(
[04:04] <Lars_G> meh
[04:04] <Lars_G> I digress
[04:04] <Innomen> i dunna understand menu.lst :)
[04:05] <soundray> !dualboot > Innomen, please have a look at the private message from ubotu
[04:05] <steel_lady> ak, thanx
[04:05] <peol> Innomen: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-tutorials-howtos-reference-material/19644-how-add-windows-2k-xp-grub.html
[04:05] <peol> google is your friend
[04:05] <usr13> Downix, Ok, well don't know about ATI.  That's a challenge.  I've done quite well with various Nvidia cards but not ATI.  I don't do ATI.  Sorry.
[04:05] <steel_lady> well, so nothing to do with my SD till they fix the bug one day?
[04:05] <Innomen> no, humans are my friend
[04:05] <Innomen> thank you :)
[04:05] <Lars_G> soundray: you're a sysadmin?
[04:05] <nanonyme> Innomen, sounds like a badly chosen friendship
[04:06] <Downix> usr13, Debating on buying an nVidia card, if I can find a PCI one.  (that way I can put it in my sons machine once ATI stabilizes some)
[04:06] <Innomen> nanonyme: sometimes i frankly wonder
[04:06] <soundray> Lars_G: not a paid one, if that's what you mean :)
[04:06] <Lars_G> soundray: but been in the trenches?
[04:06] <coldboot> soundray: The stupid program should just do it on reboot like Partition Magic, makes it so annoying to do partitioning otherwise.
[04:06] <magnet> steel_lady: i'm afraid so, anyway I don't think anyone can solve that through IRC
[04:06] <skitzor> soundray thanks man!
[04:06] <usr13> Downix, ebay
[04:06] <RetiredInMaine> I'm new to irc. This looks like a free for all. Do I just jump in with a question or is there some sort of sequence or priority? Sory if I offend anyone
[04:06] <Mortice> !ask | RetiredInMaine
[04:06] <ubotu> RetiredInMaine: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:06] <Innomen> RetiredInMaine: jump in
[04:06] <soundray> skitzor: yw, whatever it was ;)
[04:06] <kitche> RetiredInMaine: just jump right in :)
[04:06] <Innomen> Mortice: dont scold the newb
[04:06] <Downix> usr13, the ones I've been finding there are half of the time PCI-e mislabelled
[04:06] <magnet> steel_lady: there are too many points of failure here (the SD card, the readers, the drivers, your comp's hardware, etc)
[04:06] <Innomen> god the morning crowd is mean
[04:07] <Mortice> Innomen: wasn't meant as scolding, just giving information through ubotu
[04:07] <usr13> RetiredInMaine, The jump in method works quite well :)
[04:07] <Innomen> come back at 3am you'll get nice people
[04:07] <Mortice> Innomen: ubotu even smiles :)
[04:07] <soundray> Lars_G: sort of.
[04:07] <Downix> RetiredInMaine, Hey, where in Maine?
[04:07] <Lars_G> hmm
[04:07] <Lars_G> let me ask somewhere else
[04:07] <soundray> Lars_G: no, I won't
[04:07] <Innomen> Mortice: yea i basically got told "google newb" :P
[04:07] <steel_lady> magnet, since I have 3 readers and 4 USBs one is down
[04:07] <punzada> well, google will solve 90% of ubuntu issues, so it's not that bad of an answer :)
[04:08] <soundray> Lars_G: dang, it seems I won't be able to stop you...
[04:08] <magnet> steel_lady: makes it harder to help :P
[04:08] <usr13> Downix, Yes, guess we have to watch that nowdays, with PCI-e as popular as it is.
[04:08] <steel_lady> so, magnet can you tell me if I go to another comp with my readers, what should I do?
[04:08] <murlidhar> does zune media player supports linux???
[04:08] <Downix> usr13, Even worse when you're looking for a PCIX controller
[04:08] <Innomen> punzada: everything is easy when you already know how
[04:08] <Lars_G> soundray: ?? stop me?
[04:08] <Clark1> no they dont support linux
[04:08] <Innomen> knowing what to search for is an art, and the net isnt always accurate, i like human help, sue me
[04:08] <Djoef> hi, what would you use to put several images in a folder automatically on a page (like i want.. 4 images on one page to print) or maybe later only 2 etc
[04:09] <soundray> Lars_G: from asking somewhere else
[04:09] <steel_lady> magnet, it is not so easy to forget 4GB SD card for my PDA :-(
[04:09] <murlidhar> any good media player that supports linux???
[04:09] <punzada> Understood Innomen, that's why we are here. :)
[04:09] <Lars_G> soundray: I can re-ask here. to you, if you feel better
[04:09] <Innomen> :)
[04:09] <punzada> murlidhar, VLC
[04:09] <Innomen> sweet
[04:09] <soundray> Lars_G: sorry, just talking bollix
[04:09] <RetiredInMaine> thanks. I've just changed to ubuntu from fedora. In fedora there is an applet that lets a user activate/deactivate an internet connection. I like to use this when I leave my pc for a while. Is there anything like this in ubuntu? If there is I can't find it.
[04:09] <Clark1> sony walkman?
[04:09] <punzada> ohh
[04:09] <magnet> steel_lady: if the comp runs linux, first see if the SD card is recognized (with the dmesg | tail command), get the device name, check if the partitions are available ls /dev/devicename* or just create them using cfdisk, or if they're created format them with mkfs.vfat
[04:09] <murlidhar> punzada: i mean the hardware
[04:09] <punzada> sorry I misunderstood you
[04:09] <punzada> lol
[04:09] <Lars_G> soundray: What would you choose to a mainly edge router/firewall with some http and mail services. cpu over ram or ram over cpu?
[04:09] <punzada> Ipod does I'm pretty positive
[04:09] <FFighter> folks
[04:10] <AndoNET> hi, i need spanish support for compiz-fussion
[04:10] <FFighter> How am I supposed to take screenshots in XFCE?
[04:10] <punzada> Iriver does also I believe (but you should check into that)
[04:10] <Innomen> and then there is the nature of relvence
[04:10] <FFighter> I'm trying print screen but i doesn't seem to copy the image to the clipboard
[04:10] <usr13> RedKrieg, You should find it in the upper right corner.  Right-Click on it.
[04:10] <murlidhar> except ipod it doesn't have feature u see
[04:10] <magnet> steel_lady: if the comp doesn't run linux, I can't help you it's too hard for me :\
[04:10] <Innomen> this link is about fedora
[04:10] <xenoprano> hello!
[04:10] <Clark1> As 4me I prefer ipod, but I use windows partition for iTunes
[04:10] <Innomen> what applies to umbuntu and what dosent?
[04:10] <Djoef> no one ?
[04:10] <steel_lady> ok magnet, I will try
[04:10] <soundray> Lars_G: static or generated HTML?
[04:11] <peol> Innomen: grub should be the same, more or less
[04:11] <usr13> RetiredInMaine, , You should find it in the upper right corner, left of the Date.  Right-Click on it.
[04:11] <Lars_G> soundray: half and half. but dynamic (working with postgress) is a low access service. mostly one client at any time and about less than 15 hits a day
[04:11] <peol> Innomen: just check your other entries in your own menu.lst and you'll see the diff's :)
[04:11] <Innomen> well my grub works and both drives work and the flag is set right all i need is help adding the xp entry to menu.lst
[04:11] <magnet> steel_lady:  good luck with that, i'm off
[04:11] <Innomen> i recall the xp entry being pretty diffrent
[04:11] <steel_lady> ok, thank you
[04:12] <Innomen> do any of you duel boot?
[04:12] <soundray> Lars_G: I guess your question is too general. I could imagine you ending up with a bottleneck after either choice.
[04:12] <Lars_G> soundray: you're right.
[04:12] <Innomen> a pmed paste of the window menu.lst entry would be helpful
[04:12] <usr13> Innomen, I duel with swords and guns, boots are much too clumsy
[04:13] <RetiredInMaine> user13, is that the enable networking icon?
[04:13] <Innomen> lol
[04:13] <soundray> Lars_G: however, since CPU prices increase nonlinearly as opposed to extra RAM modules, I would go for RAM if in doubt.
[04:13] <usr13> RetiredInMaine, Yes, I think so.
[04:13] <x_link> Hi
[04:13] <x_link> Just have a question.
[04:13] <ikonia> x_link ask it
[04:13] <Mortice> Fire away, x_link
[04:13] <x_link> Thanks =)
[04:14] <Innomen> ikonia!
[04:14] <ikonia> Innomen yes
[04:14] <usr13> RetiredInMaine, Is your network wired or wireless?
[04:14] <x_link> I heard that Compiz Fusion will be pre-installed in 7.10
[04:14] <Innomen> i got it working, can duel boot sorta :)
[04:14] <x_link> As default I mean.
[04:14] <ikonia> x_link correct
[04:14] <ikonia> Innomen well done
[04:14] <x_link> Will beryl still be in the repos or what?
[04:14] <x_link> Cause I rather use Beryl than C-F
[04:14] <ikonia> x_link I dn't believe so
[04:14] <peol> x_link: probably not, compiz fusion is a merge of beryl and compiz
[04:14] <x_link> Baah =/
[04:14] <RetiredInMaine> user13: DUH - I should have figured it out, I thought it would be a permanent disable and I would need to log on again. Thanks
[04:14] <Innomen> i didnt do it, you guys did
[04:14] <x_link> ikonia/peol: Okej.
[04:15] <x_link> What a shame.
[04:15] <ikonia> Innomen glad your working
[04:15] <ikonia> x_link beryl doesn't exist any more
[04:15] <Innomen> anyway, trying to craft the winxp entry for the menu.lst
[04:15] <x_link> I tried Compiz Fusion for like 2-3 months ago. Worked really bad for me.
[04:15] <x_link> ikonia: I use Beryl right now.
[04:15] <Mortice> x_link:
[04:15] <Mortice> oops
[04:15] <peol> it's been improbed since, almost daily there's a new update on the gutsy repos atm
[04:15] <ikonia> x_link it doesnt' exist any more, its part of compiz fusion now
[04:15] <peol> improved*
[04:15] <soundray> Innomen: there is a sample in the file, starting at line 13
[04:15] <x_link> ikonia: I know.
[04:15] <Innomen> gah
[04:16] <Innomen> soundray: thank you
[04:16] <x_link> ikonia: So I will not be able to use the beryl that I use now in 7.10?
[04:16] <Innomen> rtfm eh?
[04:16] <ikonia> probably not
[04:16] <x_link> Okej.
[04:16] <x_link> =/
[04:16] <soundray> Innomen: no, kyewo
[04:16] <soundray> (keep your eyes wide open :)
[04:16] <Innomen> i dont know that one
[04:16] <Innomen> ahhh
[04:16] <kdawg> Bonjour ... I have a (hopefully quick) question.
[04:16] <Innomen> i do now :)
[04:17] <soundray> Innomen: you've heard it here first :)
[04:17] <Mortice> !ask | kdawg
[04:17] <peol> kdawg: shoot
[04:17] <ubotu> kdawg: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:17] <usr13> kdawg, Do hurry, we are pressed for time here!
[04:17] <RetiredInMaine> does anyone know if it is possible to set up an app to start up whenever I log on?
[04:17] <kdawg> I downloaded the latest Gutsy beta, but my PC won't boot to the DVD drive (bios won't let it). What files can I safely remove to shrink it to a CD-based boot?
[04:17] <x_link> Well, thanks alot for the help!
[04:17] <peol> RetiredInMaine: System -> Preferences -> Sessions
[04:17] <cosmodad> can anyone tell me how I can re-route all mail designated for root to some e-mail address of mine?
[04:17] <blue|palm> when does the Gutsy software freeze occur?
[04:17] <soundray> kdawg: ask gutsy questions in #ubuntu+1
[04:18] <soundray> blue|palm: it has. Go to #ubuntu+1 pls
[04:18] <usr13> RetiredInMaine, Yes
[04:18] <ikonia> cosmodad .forward
[04:18] <soundray> RetiredInMaine: System-Preferences-Session
[04:18] <neil_> soundray: gparted is saying check and repair errors on my partition, but fsck says there are no errors.
[04:18] <kdawg> OK ... on my way to ubuntu+1. Thx.
[04:18] <neil_> soundray: I'm coldboot, by the way
[04:19] <cosmodad> ikonia: I thought that method was deprecated?
[04:19] <RetiredInMaine> found it - thanks
[04:19] <ikonia> cosmodad it is
[04:19] <ikonia> cosmodad you can also use an alias
[04:19] <Lars_G> !install > Lars_G
[04:19] <cosmodad> ikonia: an alias?
[04:19] <usr13> RetiredInMaine, just  close all but the application(s) you want ot have running each time you start your system, and do as peol said.  It's pretty easy.
[04:19] <HuricaneHarry> cosmodad, ikona probably better to use /etc/aliases ?
[04:19] <ikonia> cosmodad yup user alias
[04:19] <Clark1> is there an offtopic ubuntu chat room?
[04:20] <Mortice> !offtopic > Clark1
[04:20] <cosmodad> ikonia: oh ok. Is there anything else I need to configure in order for mail transfer to succeed?
[04:20] <cosmodad> ikonia: like some MTA software?
[04:20] <Innomen> if i turn hidden menu into #hiddenmenu does that mean it wont automatically load an os, it'll let me pick without hittign escape?
[04:20] <ikonia> cosmodad not really
[04:20] <usr13> !offtopic > usr13
[04:20] <soundray> neil_: weird. Is something wrong with your drive?
[04:20] <cosmodad> ikonia: what's an easy way to test?
[04:20] <ikonia> cosmodad send mail ?
[04:20] <sexcopter> hi, i have a quick question: i'm picking up a new graphics card after work today. currently i just have intel onboard graphics, and this one is nvidia (agp). do i just simply power down, put the new card in, swap monitor cables and go, or will there be issues botting up X if i don't change settings beforehand (to vesa or something like that)?
[04:20] <Clark1> thanks Mortice
[04:20] <cosmodad> ikonia: how'd I send mail to user root via console?
[04:20] <Mortice> Clark1: no problem :)
[04:21] <HuricaneHarry> !offtopic > HuricaneHarry
[04:21] <cosmodad> ikonia: this is supposed to work on my server...
[04:21] <ikonia> cosmodad mailx
[04:21] <soundray> neil_: you might try to enable smart in the bios and check it with smartmontools or similar
[04:21] <Mortice> !msgbot
[04:21] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[04:21] <cosmodad> ikonia: I'll try, thanks
[04:22] <cancer_girl> #ubuntu
[04:22] <soundray> cancer_girl: you're already there
[04:22] <peol> sexcopter: It'll be some problems in X probably, if you know your things in the terminal it's no problems, just run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg after you've plugged it in
[04:22] <Innomen> soundray: this example cant be complete and whats "chainloader" mean?
[04:23] <soundray> Innomen: it is complete. It means "pass control to another boot sector'
[04:23] <Innomen> ahh
[04:23] <darkchr0n0s__> can anyone help me with xgamma command ?
[04:23] <tarzeau> darkchr0n0s__: sure, what is it?
[04:24] <Lazzie> anyone know how to format a sdcard to fat? its ntfs atm... :(
[04:24] <Nashu> Hy, I have 2 disks : hda-windows hdd - ubuntu, if I remove the windows  hard drive grub doesn't work anymore, but if I look to /boot/grub all the file are there. What should I do to be able to boot with/without windows hard drive?
[04:24] <cosmodad> ikonia: can I also set the default sender?
[04:24] <Innomen> here we go
[04:24] <darkchr0n0s__> tarzeau i cannot find the correct switches
[04:24] <ikonia> cosmodad man mailx
[04:24] <cosmodad> ikonia: I suppose other processes don't use mailx
[04:24] <cosmodad> ikonia: like logrotate
[04:24] <ikonia> cosmodad no
[04:24] <sexcopter> peol, ok, i can do that. so can i install any nvidia binary drivers now in advance, so i can get it set right just the once?
[04:25] <ikonia> then normally just use mail
[04:25] <soundray> I've been running John the Ripper for two days straight. Does it normally take this long to crack a password? (P4 1.6 GHz)
[04:25] <darkchr0n0s__> tarzeau : i just want to reuce screen brightness..
[04:25] <cosmodad> ikonia: they you mean?
[04:25] <darkchr0n0s__> soundray , don't think this is the correct place
[04:25] <ikonia> cosmodad: correct
[04:25] <peol> sexcopter: yeah, you should be able to compile/install new kernel modules and libs for the nvidia card before you put it in :)
[04:25] <cosmodad> soundray: depends on how lame your password is
[04:26] <soundray> cosmodad: it's good news then ;)
[04:26] <Innomen> ok it shows up in the menu, i think i fed it the wrong partition
[04:26] <neil_> soundray: Some stupid program is using /dev/sda2, do you know the program that lets you see which programs have which files open?
[04:26] <max__> How can i remove hardware from the compiz blacklist
[04:26] <darkchr0n0s__> tarzeau ... working on it ?
[04:26] <soundray> neil_: lsof ?
[04:26] <cosmodad> soundray: if your password is decently smart, you won't be able to crack it in zillions of years.
[04:26] <cosmodad> soundray: not using brute-force.
[04:27] <sexcopter> peol: thanks. so just to check i'm going to add "nvidia-glx" in synaptic. is that all i need do?
[04:27] <Nashu> Hy, I have 2 disks : hda-windows hdd - ubuntu, if I remove the windows  hard drive grub doesn't work anymore, but if I look to /boot/grub all the file are there. What should I do to be able to boot with/without windows hard drive?
[04:28] <soundray> cosmodad: I see. john assumes that it's Standard DES -- I don't even know whether that's correct.
[04:28] <neil_> soundray: When you use gparted for resizing, should you see a progress bar actually progressing, or does it bounce back and forth?
[04:28] <peol> sexcopter: I'm not an expert on nvidia cards, never owned one, but yeah - or use their binary installs on their homepage
[04:28] <cosmodad> soundray: again, depends on the database.
[04:29] <cosmodad> soundray: if you just wanna check your password's security level, don't bother john. Just follow the standard security guidelines.
[04:29] <soundray> cosmodad: the database?
[04:29] <Innomen> crypto is such a scam, if someone wants your data they can have it, the only secure data is erased data, it all a matter of resources
[04:29] <soundray> cosmodad: it's partly because I wanted to give this machine a good thrashing
[04:29] <peol> sexcopter: a friend of mine said that the drivers from nvidia.com is better. just install them following a nicey guide, and you'll be all set (you probably just need to change Driver in your xorg.conf entry
[04:29] <kitche> soundray: yes you need a wordlist to use john :)
[04:29] <cosmodad> soundray: the database where you draw the password from. That defines the type of encryption algorithm used.
[04:29] <Innomen> like if someone put a shotgun in my mouth they get to have my passwords
[04:29] <Innomen> lol
[04:29] <soundray> neil_: it shouldn't bounce
[04:29] <ikonia> peol thats a nonsense statment
[04:29] <yowshi> peol umm it isnt always simple
[04:30] <ganes2> soundray:i installed..compiz fusion..how to get cube??
[04:30] <yowshi> i have an nvidia card and installing the drivers for it was anything but simple
[04:30] <sexcopter> peol: i'll consider it, thanks
[04:30] <agraupe> I'm having some trouble with my wireless networking.  it seems my wireless card requires the rate to be set manually, but I'm not sure how to accomplish this with network-manager.  if I try sudo iwconfig eth1 rate 11M, it remains at 1M and shows all network qualities as 0/100.  the driver in question is the native bcm43xx, and it has worked properly in the past
[04:30] <panosru> hi
[04:30] <soundray> ganes2: don't ask me any effects questions. I'm a bash man.
[04:30] <kitche> ganes2: compiz --replace & I believe in a terminal but #ubuntu-effects can help you more
[04:30] <peol> Okay, sorry about that. I *did* say I wasn't an expert on the field ;)
[04:31] <soundray> kitche: I was assuming it would use it automatically.
[04:31] <Azrael24> hi guys...oh for the love of god...will anyone kindly help me?  lol
[04:31] <ikonia> Azrael24 what is the problem
[04:31] <Azrael24> I've been playing with FF and ubuntu ultimate for the last 4 months...
[04:31] <neil_> soundray: parted reports that my ext3 partition has an incompatible feature enabled on it.
[04:31] <Azrael24> and on my laptop, which all the hardware has been tested and fine...
[04:31] <ikonia> Azrael24 sorry ubuntu ultimate is not supported here as its not an ubuntu product
[04:32] <soundray> neil_: did you set something unusual/non-default when you were installing?
[04:32] <Nashu> ikonia... pls could you help ...
[04:32] <ganes2>  kitche:thanks
[04:32] <ikonia> Nashu what is the problem
[04:32] <Nashu> Hy, I have 2 disks : hda-windows hdd - ubuntu, if I remove the windows  hard drive grub doesn't work anymore, but if I look to /boot/grub all the file are there. What should I do to be able to boot with/without windows hard drive?
[04:32] <Innomen> ikonia if you wernt so helpful i'd curse your brutality :P
[04:32] <neil_> soundray: Nope
[04:32] <Azrael24> my laptop will load up fine, but freezes after this rectangular box?  with the funky sound effect...but freezes 95% of the time at the desktop screen...mouse works, I can do a ctrl.alt.f2
[04:32] <Azrael24> I'm just stumped...no idea what to do at this point
[04:33] <sexcopter> ok, i just noticed that there is nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-new in the repositories. which do you think corresponds to a geforce 6200?
[04:33] <soundray> neil_: that's the kind of thing I meant when I said "who knows what else went wrong".
[04:33] <Azrael24> I've been playing with FF on it longer than UU
[04:33] <ikonia> Nashu grub boat loader is installed on your windows boot sector. You ned to appyl grub to the ubuntu bootsector to make it work
[04:33] <ikonia> !grub >nashu
[04:33] <ikonia> Nashu: that link should guide you through installing grub to a disk
[04:33] <darkchr0n0s__> can anyone help me with xgamma command ?
[04:33] <sjkwizardone> how can i see what kind of driver (for wifi card) i have already installed on my pc?
[04:33] <ikonia> Azrael24 ubuntu ultimate is not supported here. Ubuntu ultimate is not an ubuntu product
[04:33] <darkchr0n0s__> i cannot find the correct switches
[04:34] <peol> sexcopter: I'm not sure, maybe someone else could pick that up. nvidia-glx-new sounds nice though. ;)
[04:34] <Azrael24> please disregard comment about ultimate...just FF
[04:34] <neil_> soundray: I don't think that fonts not displaying, and something being messed up with my partition, on an otherwise perfectly working system has much to do with each other.
[04:34] <ikonia> Azrael24 no - ubuntu ultimate is not supported here. Please visit http://www.ubuntuultimate.com
[04:34] <soundray> neil_: you're free to choose what you want to believe.
[04:35] <biopod> I just installed ubuntu 7.04 on a new computer, ATI radeon x1600, but even with the restricted drivers, i cant get a resolution bigger then 1024*768... help me out please.
[04:35] <Innomen> neil_: man if you want to understand computers do not think logically
[04:35] <nixno0b> anyone play regnum?  my game crashes just after starting....
[04:35] <soundray> biopod: hi, sorry I left you high and dry yesterday. Did you get your rt61 to work?
[04:35] <neil_> Innomen: It just seems unlikely that something this illogical is linked.
[04:35] <Nashu> ikonia : thank you!
[04:35] <tul> biopod: look for xorg.conf
[04:35] <Innomen> your mouse can make your screen die, no joke :P
[04:35] <cosmodad> ikonia: mailx mocked that no postfix main.cf was available. I dpkg-reconfigured postfix but I'm not sure what to pick...
[04:35] <Azrael24> ikonia...whether it's FF, or UU...same problem ensues...no suggestion at this point?
[04:36] <Robbie> Hi, i'm a noob when it comes to this but i'm thinking about installing ubuntu on my PC, but i want to keep windows. is there anyway I can install Ubuntu so that i can choose which OS to load on startup?
[04:36] <neil_> soundray: I think it's just a coincidence that parted has some sort of bug in it, that error message is retardedly vague.
[04:36] <ikonia> Azrael24 my suggestion is to not ask in this channel any more. ubuntu ultimate is not supported here
[04:36] <peol> biopod: try reconfiguring X; dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:36] <Innomen> neil_: hence the term "counter intuitive" and we basically invented that phrase because of computers :P
[04:36] <sjkwizardone> how can i configure kismet source with atheros card?
[04:36] <ikonia> cosmodad mailx shouldn't care about postfix.cf
[04:36] <darkchr0n0s__> any way to reduce screen brightness.. this is killing my eyes :(
[04:36] <soundray> !fixres > biopod, this should help
[04:37] <darkchr0n0s__> anyone ?
[04:37] <cosmodad> ikonia: well it did care about main.cf(!)
[04:37] <ikonia> cosmodad postfix should, mailx shouldn't its just a dumb mta
[04:37] <biopod> thanks all.
[04:37] <biopod> i'll give it a shot.
[04:37] <Innomen> hd0,0 does nothing hd 0,2 (the only ntfs paritition says "error 12 invalid device requested"
[04:37] <cosmodad> ikonia: I guess even mailx needs to use some SMTP client to deliver mail?
[04:37] <shearn89> darkchr0n0s__: have you checked if there's an option under System->prefs->keyboard shortcuts?
[04:37] <cosmodad> ikonia: unless mailx comes with its own SMTP implementation which I doubt...
[04:38] <peol> Innomen: try hd1,0
[04:38] <ikonia> cosmodad no, mailx is an mtu which gives mail to postfix to send
[04:38] <Azrael24> ikonia....I have FF currrently installed on my  laptop...help?
[04:38] <ikonia> cosmodad: so it doesn't care
[04:38] <Innomen> thewre's only 1 drive in the machine, but i will try thaT RIGHT NOW
[04:38] <Innomen> caps sorry
[04:38] <ikonia> Azrael24 last request before I report you - ubuntu ultimate is NOT supported here
[04:38] <peol> either hd0,0 or hd1,0 as far as i can recall for win partitions
[04:38] <ikonia> cosmodad is postfix runing ?
[04:38] <Innomen> cool thx
[04:38] <cosmodad> ikonia: well I installed it.
[04:38] <ikonia> cosmodad: running and working (telnet to port 25 for a test)
[04:39] <nixno0b> anyone play regnum?  my game crashes just after starting....
[04:39] <ikonia> cosmodad have you configured it ?
[04:39] <cosmodad> ikonia: I didn't until mailx errored.
[04:39] <darkchr0n0s__> shearn89 : its not under any of the categories
[04:39] <ikonia> cosmodad ok - so thats never going to work
[04:39] <cosmodad> ikonia: now I have used dpkg-reconfigure but I'm not sure it's the right config.
[04:39] <ikonia> cosmodad you have to configure postfix as an smtp agent
[04:39] <ikonia> cosmodad: MTA
[04:39] <ikonia> cosmodad then mailx will work
[04:39] <shearn89> darkchr0n0s__: okay, hold on.
[04:39] <darkchr0n0s__> okay
[04:40] <Innomen> ikonia: what do you do, how do you know all this?
[04:40] <ikonia> Innomen its my job
[04:40] <cosmodad> ikonia: I've already figured that out. What I asked was which of the dpkg-reconfigure-configurations is appropriate for this task.
[04:40] <Innomen> is anyone else wondering if ikonia is carbon based?
[04:40] <ikonia> cosmodad well, lets take a quick look at a few things
[04:40] <cosmodad> ikonia: sure.
[04:40] <Azrael24> ikonia - I have no intention of getting on your nerves, but ubuntuultimate.com is dead
[04:40] <shearn89> darkchr0n0s__: are you on a laptop?
[04:41] <Innomen> like yuour job is to be here, or your job is tech support and you're just sharing here
[04:41] <peol> Azrael24: try googling it then
[04:41] <ikonia> Azrael24 thats your problem for chosing an OS thats nothing to do with ubuntu
[04:41] <darkchr0n0s__> shearn89 : yeah, i was gonna type that
[04:41] <Alloos2> hi guys, I have problem connecting to pg server, any idea how to fix the pg_hba.conf
[04:41] <Lars_G_> soundray: you there?
[04:41] <soundray> biopod: still here?
[04:41] <ikonia> Azrael24 ubuntu.com supports ubuntu products, not other peoples products
[04:41] <kitche> ikonia: umm he's using FF no clue why you think he's using UU
[04:41] <soundray> Lars_G_: hello
[04:41] <Lars_G_> soundray: I will use debootstrap from RIP in the second machine to turn it into my new firewall.
[04:41] <ikonia> kitche because he told me he was then stopped saying he was when I said it wasn't supported
[04:41] <neopsyche> I installed java runtime but still firefox says i need to install it?
[04:41] <XiXaQ> how much RAM does a mailserver for a couple of users need?
[04:42] <ikonia> cosmodad: reconfigure it as "internet" email server
[04:42] <Lars_G_> soundray: My question is, I see udeb and non udeb debootstraps... any tips on that?
[04:42] <Innomen>  (10:34:11 AM) Azrael24: please disregard comment about ultimate...just FF
[04:42] <Innomen> heheh
[04:42] <Azrael24> iknonia - a I understand now, UU was a custom made Ubuntu version...I downloaded it via torrent earlier this year
[04:42] <ikonia> cosmodad: are you using a dynamic IP address
[04:42] <shearn89> darkchr0n0s__: what type of laptop?
[04:42] <cosmodad> ikonia: yes.
[04:42] <leego> I am trying to install ubuntu, but I am so far unable to increase my screen res above 640x480 during installation.  I have tried to find a solution online, but everything I found involves changing settings after installation.  Has anyone here solved such an issue?
[04:42] <darkchr0n0s__> shearn89 : sony vaio VGN-CR14GN
[04:42] <XiXaQ> leego, why do you need to change it during installation?
[04:42] <ikonia> cosmodad just to warn you that no matter what you do, your probably going to have problems as most mail servers on the net won't accept mail from dhcp enabled mail servers
[04:42] <shearn89> Azrael24: it is custom made, but not supported by the ubuntu forums, in the same way that Automatix isn't.
[04:42] <Lars_G_> meh
[04:43] <leego> XiXaQ - I can't see the screens I need in order to complete installation
[04:43] <Lars_G_> soundray: nvm I picked the 1.0.1 feisty tar.gz non udeb version
[04:43] <XiXaQ> leego, oh. You're installing from a live session?
[04:43] <Azrael24> Innomen - I meant to point out that I've tried two ubuntu versions so far on my laptop, and it freezes at desktop...no taskbar, nothing...but I can do ctr.alt.f2...just don't know what to do
[04:43] <ikonia> Azrael24 not ask in here
[04:43] <leego> Xix: I am installing from the ISO I downloaded from ubuntu website
[04:43] <ikonia> Azrael24 ubuntu ultimate is NOT supported
[04:43] <cosmodad> ikonia: I'll take that risk.
[04:43] <Azrael24> help!  my FF isn't working on my laptop!
[04:43] <YyoooMAn> yo some1 pls gimme an excellent suggestion of a media player for linux which has shoutcast!! :)
[04:44] <Innomen> is there a short cut key for "shut down" ?
[04:44] <Azrael24> not UU!  just FF!
[04:44] <ikonia> Azrael24 I'm now going to report you , as your trying to hide that your running ubuntu ultimate
[04:44] <cosmodad> ikonia: I think one of my providers isn't that restrictive.
[04:44] <Azrael24> I did a clean install with FF!
[04:44] <ikonia> cosmodad ok
[04:44] <XiXaQ> leego, there are two different cd's. I'm guessing you're using the graphical one. You can change resolution by using the System > Preferences > Screen Resolution option.
[04:44] <shearn89> darkchr0n0s__: ah. gottit! here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SonyVaioBrightness
[04:44] <Azrael24> argh!!
[04:44] <Azrael24> lol
[04:44] <Innomen> lol
[04:44] <Azrael24> screw UU!  just FF!
[04:44] <timbba> My wireless usb keyboard/mouse doesn't work after suspend.. The only way to get it working is to take the receiver from usb port and replug it. but wireless usb wlan stick works after suspend so maybe something wrong with input devices after suspend? Any tricks?
[04:44] <ikonia> Azrael24 now your lying and wasting my time
[04:44] <usr13> Innomen, the power button
[04:44] <Azrael24> ...
[04:44] <Innomen> usr13: yur funny
[04:44] <Innomen> kb shortcut
[04:44] <Azrael24> I'm no in way lying...this is bizarre
[04:44] <shearn89> Azrael24: what happens when you start firefox?
[04:44] <Innomen> like cntrl-alt-del
[04:45] <Innomen> :P
[04:45] <arthur_> that's interesting
[04:45] <leego> XiXaQ - I only get one option on the preferences menu, which is 640x480.  I didn't see another CD available...  maybe I should go look again
[04:45] <Azrael24> shearn...in FF...nothing happens....I don't understand
[04:45] <usr13> Innomen, no, try it.  Just punch the power button and see.
[04:45] <ikonia> Azrael24 your telling me that in 5 minutes youve re-installed ubuntu over ubuntu ultimate and your having the same problems with firefox - no your telling me a lie
[04:45] <Innomen> no i know
[04:45] <Innomen> but its under the desk
[04:45] <ikonia> Azrael24 ubuntu ultimate as a platform is NOT supported
[04:45] <Innomen> kinda back there
[04:45] <shearn89> Azrael24: i need more details. does it start at all?
[04:45] <pike_> leego: what vid card?
[04:45] <Innomen> hence the question
[04:45] <d13g0> #ubuntu-mx
[04:45] <XiXaQ> leego, no, that's not necessary. You can add more options by either editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf or by running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg from the terminal.
[04:45] <leego> pike, Nvidia geforce mx 440
[04:45] <d13g0> ubuntu-mx
[04:46] <usr13> Innomen, You can designate a "hotkey"
[04:46] <Innomen> hotkley
[04:46] <Innomen> thanx
[04:46] <pike_> leego: nv driver should work very well then for you
[04:46] <Innomen> i'll search
[04:46] <Lars_G_> Here I go
[04:46] <Lars_G_> GERONIMOOOO
[04:46] <XiXaQ> leego, you need to restart the window system after adding the options. You do that by pressing alt+ctrl+backspace
[04:46] <Azrael24> dear god...ikonia...I hear you completely, but last time - I've tried FF, didn't work, tried UU, didn't work, now I'm back to FF...and still doesn't work...does this help you understand that I don't have UU on my computer now?
[04:46] <Nashu> ikonia : do I need to have grub loader on Linux disk before tying to make an image of my FF disk? (G4L dd mondo...)
[04:46] <blue|palm> When running opengl applications, the following randomly happens(not always though) I am running an nvidia card (GeForce Go 7400) using the drivers installed through restricted driver manager: http://img210.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotogrerenderwinec4.png
[04:46] <ikonia> Nashu FF disk ?
[04:46] <Azrael24> I'd appreciate support for ubuntu...not UU
[04:47] <Nashu> feysty Faun
[04:47] <leego> XiXaQ: , I edited the file, saved, and rebooted, but it went back to the same thing.  I didn't try the dpkg-reconf.... though
[04:47] <Azrael24> strangles
[04:47] <leego> thanks for your help I will go try that
[04:47] <Innomen> gah now it just boots right into windows
[04:47] <idefix> !gutsy
[04:47] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[04:47] <pike_> Azrael24: user more pressure. you can do it
[04:47] <luis> hi rooms
[04:47] <Nashu> ikoniav FF= Feysti faun
[04:47] <ikonia> Nashu: ahh
[04:47] <ikonia> Nashu yes, that would be advisable
[04:47] <XiXaQ> leego, you can't reboot, because the settings won't be saved. You must only restart the window system.
[04:47] <cosmodad> ikonia: ok so I set-up an Internet host to my best knowledge. How to test the forwarding? Sending mail to root@localhost again?
[04:48] <ikonia> cosmodad do you have an internet email account, ay hostmail
[04:48] <leego> oh, I see - that is the ctrl alt backspace?  thanks!
[04:48] <ikonia> hotmail
[04:48] <cosmodad> ikonia: sure.
[04:48] <XiXaQ> leego, right and you're welcome. :)
[04:48] <shearn89> Azrael24: can you describe what (doesn't) happen in more detail?
[04:48] <Nashu> ikonia : cause otherwise I pbbly get a non - bootable image disk right?
[04:48] <ikonia> cosmodad mail $your_addres@hotmail.com </etc/hosts
[04:48] <leego> goodbye all I will soon be happy
[04:48] <ikonia> cosmodad: see what happens
[04:49] <usr13> Innomen, Well, it's not really called hotkey, it's "Keyboard Shortcuts";  See:  System -->Preferences --> Keyboard Shortcuts
[04:49] <Innomen> so how is it that adding an entry in menu.lst caused the menu to be skipped?
[04:49] <Innomen> usr13: ahh thanx
[04:49] <cosmodad> ikonia: nothing yet. How can I check whether the mail is still being spooled?
[04:49] <soundray> Lars_G_: sorry, was interrupted. I can't help you with this particular issue, sry
[04:49] <ikonia> cosmodad mailq
[04:50] <usr13> Innomen, For instance, I have F12  set as a keyboard shortcut to gnome-terminal
[04:50] <Innomen> cool
[04:50] <Innomen> i'm sure i'll make hevay use of that
[04:50] <cancer_girl> #ubuntu
[04:50] <cosmodad> ikonia: ok it's empty.
[04:50] <ikonia> cosmodad so its been spooled and sent out
[04:50] <panosru> hi, i try to install firefox 32bit on my gutsy 64bit when i run this: "sudo apt-get install linux32" it need to remove ubuntu-minimal, util-linux and util-linux-locales, what should i do?
[04:50] <blue|palm> When running opengl applications, the following randomly happens(not always though) I am running an nvidia card (GeForce Go 7400) using the drivers installed through restricted driver manager: http://img210.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotogrerenderwinec4.png
[04:50] <cosmodad> ikonia: apparently.
[04:50] <Innomen> soundray: you know anything about this menu.lst madness?
[04:51] <ricardo> Holaaaaaaaaaaa
[04:51] <usr13> Innomen, There are a lot of keybord shortcuts by default and that is where you can go to learn where / what they are.
[04:51] <cosmodad> ikonia: it might have been rejected. Sending out mail via Thunderbird on my desktop machine works fine.
[04:51] <ikonia> cosmodad did you set up a smart host ?
[04:51] <Innomen> usr13: cool thanx
[04:51] <cosmodad> ikonia: nope.
[04:51] <Innomen> bigger fish at the moment :)
[04:52] <ikonia> cosmodad ok - so that mail has gone directly from your machine to hotmail, I would expect hotmail to drop it as its a dhcp server
[04:52] <cosmodad> ikonia: presumably. :/
[04:52] <ricardo> hi
[04:52] <panosru> no one knows???
[04:52] <ikonia> cosmodad check your syslog to see if postfix reports anything
[04:53] <heatman> hello. I was wondering if it is possible to defrag a fat32 partition while in ubuntu 7.03 (server edition)?
[04:53] <Mortice> panosru: please use #ubuntu+1 for gutsy support
[04:53] <ikonia> heatman I'd advise against it
[04:53] <e\ectro_> is authenticating Ubuntu clients via LDAP something thats just extremely beta, or am I just not doing something correct (even after following multiple online tutorials) ?
[04:53] <ikonia> e\ectro_: not beta at all
[04:53] <e\ectro_> ikonia: do you have it working in your env?
[04:54] <ikonia> e\ectro_: not at this exact moment, but I have done
[04:54] <e\ectro_> ikonia: does nscd just not fuction correctly?
[04:54] <amee2k> StoneNewt: hey, you there buddy?
[04:54] <cosmodad> ikonia: nothing erroneous. The last couple of log-lines might help you though, mind if pm them to you?
[04:54] <ikonia> cosmodad: stick them in pastbin (unless they are private) so I can review them
[04:54] <cosmodad> ikonia: ok
[04:54] <ikonia> e\ectro_: nscd is samba isn't it
[04:54] <e\ectro_> ikonia: I have pam_ldap.conf,libnss-ldap.conf configured, I can getent passwd,group.  I can even log in sometimes, but more users get a pam-ldap error that they cannot bind as the user
[04:54] <darkchr0n0s__> shearn89 : nope, both ways not working
[04:54] <matchstick13> i have a question about my network card, i have an Ethernet controller and a Network controller listed when i use 'lspci -v'  which one is my card?
[04:55] <heatman> ikonia: oh yeah whys that? the reason i ask this is that because on my server i only have ubuntu and one of my drive is a fat 32.... which ill need to back up and convert to an ext partition but in the meantime i need to defrag to allow better speed
[04:55] <aat1> anyone here know how to get photoshop under ubuntu
[04:55] <aat1> ?
[04:55] <e\ectro_> ikonia: nscd is a name caching daemon for passwd,groups
[04:55] <Innomen> !gimp
[04:55] <ubotu> gimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[04:55] <ikonia> heatman just back it up slowly and then format
[04:55] <Innomen> or wine
[04:55] <ikonia> e\ectro_: ahh sorry yes, I didn't have any problems with it, but that doesn't mean it doesn't have any problems
[04:55] <heatman> ikonia: lol ok
[04:55] <Innomen> *shrugs*
[04:55] <aat1> yea u know about gimp... its not right
[04:55] <blue|palm> When running opengl applications, the following randomly happens(not always though) I am running an nvidia card (GeForce Go 7400) using the drivers installed through restricted driver manager: http://img210.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotogrerenderwinec4.png
[04:56] <e\ectro_> does anyone use Ubuntu in a corporate environment where single sign on is important?
[04:56] <kst> I am running gmusicbrowser with a mozembed plugin for wiki/lyrics stuff but that doesnt matter i think... when I use a launcher icon in the taskbar executing "gmusicbrowser" as terminal command, it will crash as soon as i try to use a mozembed plugin feature.. but when i run gmusicbrowser from a terminal window it works! so wheres the difference between launching it from taskbar or from terminal when it's the same command, and how do i
[04:56] <kst> fix it?
[04:56] <cosmodad> ikonia: I'm not sure I picked a proper from-address: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39537
[04:56] <ikonia> e\ectro_: I know of two sites
[04:56] <yowshi> tried gimp. it's interface is to wierd for me
[04:56] <tarzeau> e\ectro_: well debian, yes
[04:56] <aat1> i know its damn close, but i need photoshop but im not going back to the dark side of windows
[04:56] <ikonia> cosmodad: looking
[04:56] <soundray> Innomen: please restate the problem for me
[04:56] <aat1> i need to run photoshop
[04:56] <aat1> !
[04:56] <e\ectro_> tarzeau: does nscd work correctly in ubuntu?
[04:56] <Innomen> aat1: wine then
[04:56] <Innomen> run it under wine
[04:56] <kst> !wine
[04:57] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:57] <blue|palm> aat1, use the latest wine... CS2 is the latest photoshop that actually works well though
[04:57] <ikonia> cosmodad: that looks fine
[04:57] <tarzeau> e\ectro_: i don't know, we don't use the nscd
[04:57] <e\ectro_> tarzeau: what do you use to cache ldap requests?
[04:57] <usr13> aat1, What function of photoshop are you missing when you go to gimp?
[04:57] <Innomen> usr13: the interface
[04:57] <tarzeau> e\ectro_: nothing, we don't cache them
[04:57] <blue|palm> aat1, CS works perfectly, CS2 works well, and im not sure of CS3
[04:57] <Innomen> :P
[04:57] <cosmodad> ikonia: is it possible to connect directly to the mail server and see what it accepts
[04:57] <darkchr0n0s__> can anyone help me to reduce the brightness of my laptop (Sony vaio, VGN CR14GN/B) ?
[04:57] <cosmodad> ikonia: ?
[04:57] <e\ectro_> tarzeau: how many clients are authing via ldap?
[04:57] <cosmodad> ikonia: because this log output doesn't show any error.
[04:57] <ikonia> cosmodad not hotmails
[04:57] <aat1> i i see... thanks
[04:58] <cosmodad> ikonia: this isn't hotmail, it's my own's domain MX.
[04:58] <aat1> anyone who's had any experience w/crashes etc?
[04:58] <cosmodad> ikonia: own domain's MX.
[04:58] <blue|palm> aat1, be sure to visit winehq.org and visit downloads and follow the ubuntu instructions to get the latest version
[04:58] <usr13> Innomen, Oh, so it's just because it just looks different?
[04:58] <cosmodad> ikonia: or rather, my domain's provider's MX.
[04:58] <Innomen> thats a little unfair
[04:58] <tarzeau> e\ectro_: about 300
[04:59] <tarzeau> e\ectro_: but many more users, these are the managed computers
[04:59] <e\ectro_> tarzeau: how do you solve the problem where ldap is unable to "bind as user" and gives invalid credentials
[04:59] <e\ectro_> tarzeau: pam_ldap: error trying to bind as user "uid=
[04:59] <darkchr0n0s__> can anyone help me to reduce the brightness of my laptop (Sony vaio, VGN CR14GN/B) ?
[05:00] <tarzeau> e\ectro_: sorry, i'm not the person doing that stuff.. i just do the software/linux stuff (no mail, no ldap. i'm a netinfo person)
[05:00] <kst> whats the difference between a command launched via an tray icon and via terminal window? i'm experiencing a problem when running something mozembed/perl related from an icon but it works flawlessly from terminal although it should do the same command ("gmusicbrowser"). running it as a terminal command via icon has the same result :/
[05:00] <e\ectro_> tarzeau: ah, thanks anyways
[05:00] <usr13> usr13, I learned image minipulation on gimp and only recently had opportunity to try out photoshop and, well, didn't see it as being any better, at least not for any of the things I do. It appeared that I could work through projects faster with gimp.
[05:01] <Mortice> !wfm
[05:01] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[05:01] <Mortice> hmm, that doesn't really sum it up. But it seems offtopic to say "gimp works fine for me" when someone wants support on getting photoshop to work because it's no good for him/her.
[05:02] <dobo> am i supposed to run apache with sudo?! it sounds risky to me, but it whines about failed access otherwise!
[05:02] <sahil> does anyone have the .deb for automatix for breezy, their insallation page seems to be down
[05:02] <Innomen> i agree with Mortice
[05:02] <Mortice> !automatix
[05:02] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[05:03] <sahil> im not asking for support
[05:03] <Innomen> we're not here to make choices for people, but to help impliment the choices they make, thats like the whole open vs windows thing, in my opinion
[05:03] <sahil> just if anyone has the file
[05:03] <Mortice> dobo: apache needs to be started with root access, yes.
[05:03] <Engineer> hi there
[05:03] <Mortice> sahil: automatix isn't supported in this channel.
[05:03] <sahil> Mortice:i see that, i don't want/need support
[05:03] <Mortice> sahil: we can't very well not support its mess-ups but say "oh hey, here's the file"
[05:04] <cancer_girl> https://help.ubuntu.com/commun
[05:04] <Innomen> dude
[05:04] <sahil> fair enough
[05:04] <Innomen> thats mean
[05:04] <Innomen> say it like this
[05:04] <heatman> is there a way that i can add an run command box in the "application" menu?
[05:04] <Innomen> if we dont support it its likely that we dont have it
[05:04] <Innomen> :P
[05:04] <kst> Mortice (sorry for picking you :P) any idea why my command (gmusicbrowser audio player) acts differently when launched from menu/an icon and when launched from terminal?
[05:04] <cosmodad> ikonia: ok I managed to telnet 25 into my provider's mail server, enter the exact same credentials as provided by `mail' and the server always OK'ed.
[05:04] <sahil> i guess ill just do it all manually
[05:04] <Mortice> kst: i'm not sure to be honest - there oughtn't to be any difference...
[05:04] <Innomen> no need to be insulting to it or him (not saaying you did)
[05:04] <Rynoo> I installed ProFTPd via apt-get on my Ubuntu machine. It says its running via inetd/xinetd - but it's not. Tried uninstalling and reinstalling so I could make it run as a stand-alone, but it not longer allows me to select. how can I start proftpd?
[05:04] <Dr_willis> kst check the icon properties it may be running witn some command line options.
[05:04] <cosmodad> ikonia: isn't that a sign that thinks are working basically?
[05:05] <ikonia> cosmodad no
[05:05] <Engineer> could anybody please answer a few questions concerning the ubuntu-installation?
[05:05] <ikonia> cosmodad your not using your providers mail server, you've just gone from you to hotmail
[05:05] <JuJuBee_> Im using a laptop with ati 9700 video card.  I have cloning working kind of.  The left 1.5" of my desktop is not showing through the projector.  I read ! ati and still need some assistance.
[05:05] <Innomen> why would an alteration to the grub menu.lst file cause it to not display?
[05:05] <Dr_willis> Rynoo,  i would say check its man pages and /usr/share/doc/proftpd dir.  MOST likely you need to edit its config files to enable it.
[05:05] <sahil> Engineer:what questions do you have?
[05:05] <kst> Dr_willis no it's not :)
[05:05] <Dr_willis> kst,  bummer heh :)
[05:05] <Engineer> i wanted to boot into the live-environment..
[05:06] <cosmodad> ikonia: Not sure I get this. I directly telnetted to my provider which also hosts the destination email address.
[05:06] <Dr_willis> Engineer,  thers 2 install cd's - one with a live-desktop, other with an alternative text only installer.
[05:06] <ikonia> cosmodad no it wasn't you sent to hotmail ?
[05:06] <kst> Dr_willis ?
[05:06] <cosmodad> ikonia: consider I'm not using hotmail.
[05:06] <ikonia> ahhhh
[05:06] <ikonia> my mistake
[05:06] <cosmodad> ikonia: np
[05:06] <Dr_willis> kst,  thats the only idea i have.
[05:06] <Engineer> but it said "mp-bios bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC"
[05:06] <david003> hello. how can i play return to castle wolfeinstein on ubuntu?
[05:06] <Engineer> so far, i got that fixed with "noapic" in the boot-commandline..
[05:06] <sahil> Engineer:try passing the noapic option on boot
[05:07] <sahil> heh
[05:07] <Dr_willis> sahil,  dont ya LOVE it when they spread out the info over several lines.
[05:07] <ray_> !beta
[05:07] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon (7.10) *BETA* information and release notes can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon/Beta - If you regularly update, then you're running the latest version - ISOs and Torrents at http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/gutsy/ - It is development software and as such unstable, support ONLY in #ubuntu+1
[05:07] <Dr_willis> !games
[05:07] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[05:07] <Engineer> next problem was the irq 15, which i fixed with "irqpoll" in the bootline
[05:07] <schlumpf> hi how do i find out which ubuntu i use :) feisty edgy dapper etch... :
[05:07] <neopsyche>  Mwahhahahahahahahhahaha.... http://cultura.gencat.net/casm/butlleti/hemeroteca/img/fot-linux3.jpg
[05:07] <Dr_willis> schlumpf,  lsb_release -a
[05:08] <sahil> Dr_willis: I do enjoy the suspense
[05:08] <Innomen> hedheheh
[05:08] <Innomen> cute pic
[05:08] <schlumpf> Dr_willis, thanks
[05:08] <Engineer> now i installed ubuntu... and there we are, same problems with the booting.. but no commandline like in the live-environment
[05:08] <vmlinuz`> how to change the GDM theme
[05:08] <Dr_willis> Engineer,  no command line? cant get to the console with alt-ctrl-F1, cant open a terminal?
[05:09] <Mortice> vmlinuz`: system > administration > login window
[05:09] <darkchr0n0s__> can anyone help me to reduce the brightness of my laptop (Sony vaio, VGN CR14GN/B) ?
[05:09] <Engineer> how to insert those 2 commands in the grub?
[05:09] <Dr_willis> Engineer,  edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file (sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst)
[05:09] <vmlinuz`> Mortice: I have a file.tbz2 ? Do i need to extract it somewhere first?
[05:10] <usr13> vmlinuz`, System -> Administration -> Login Window
[05:10] <kst> !notebook
[05:10] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[05:10] <Engineer> how do i get to this file? i cant even boot into windows, which is installed on another partition
[05:10] <Dr_willis> Engineer,  the grub boot 'edit/command' stuff is a  feature of grub. its not the same as a 'terminal/command/bash shell'
[05:10] <sahil> Engineer: boot up the live cd again
[05:10] <sahil> or press e at grub
[05:10] <kst> darkchr0n0s__ do your Fn keys work? i can change my notebook brightness via the hotkeys on the keyboard
[05:10] <darkchr0n0s__> can anyone help me to reduce the brightness of my laptop (Sony vaio, VGN CR14GN/B) ?
[05:10] <sahil> it won
[05:10] <Dr_willis> Engineer,  theres a windows entry example/commented out in the grub menu.lst file
[05:10] <darkchr0n0s__> kst : nope
[05:10] <cosmodad> ikonia: I just found out that I require to use a valid from-address which is hosted at my provider. If you could tell me how to set that globally with postfix, I should be fine.
[05:10] <Dr_willis> Engineer,  it should of added one to the end of the menus.
[05:10] <Mortice> vmlinuz`: ah, ok. I'd copy that into home, and do "tar xjvf file" in a command line, to see what's actually in it
[05:10] <Innomen> Dr_willis: that thing flat out does not work
[05:11] <Dr_willis> Innomen,  which thing?
[05:11] <kst> darkchr0n0s__ maybe try to get them working? or do you already know they cannot be used no matter what you do? i would try that :)
[05:11] <ikonia> cosmodad: your cosmodad mega
[05:11] <ikonia> mega
[05:11] <Innomen> and no one here but overworked ikonia has any idea how its contents work so dont send him down that road :P
[05:11] <usr13> darkchr0n0s__, There may be a function key for brightness.
[05:11] <VixyFox> Hey everyone, I was planning on installing either KUbuntu or Ubuntu... but I'm a bit confused as to the major differences. I noticed on the KUbuntu site that if you are using Ubuntu you just have to install one package and you have KUbuntu, but what's the major difference that would make me do one over the other?
[05:11] <Innomen> the bs example in menu.lst
[05:11] <cosmodad> ikonia: pardon me?
[05:11] <sahil> Engineer: to get you to boot into ubuntu press e at the grub menu which will let you append options add noapic and whatever else then press b
[05:11] <Innomen> its what i've been asking about for like an hour now
[05:11] <Dr_willis> Innomen,  huh.. its always worked for me.. assuming your windows is on hda1
[05:11] <Engineer> sahil: i pressed 'e' to insert those commands.. but in which line? i tried the last 4, but neither did work
[05:12] <darkchr0n0s__> kst, usr13 , the Fn keys are not working, and i haven't found anyone, anywhere on forums who have the keys working in new models of Sony Vaio
[05:12] <Dr_willis> Innomen,  its a rather simple/common example entry.
[05:12] <Innomen> first it wouldent boot windows at all error 12, now the menu wont come up at all
[05:12] <fangorious> how do I pair with a bluetooth headset?
[05:12] <Innomen> yeaq everything is simple when its working right
[05:12] <Dr_willis> Innomen,  thats the nature of computers. Of course ive noticed a Lot of New pc's now a days with windows on the SECOND partition, and some sort of recovery partition on the first
[05:13] <usr13> darkchr0n0s__, Oh, ok. well they all work on mine. I have a GQ RX7334
[05:13] <sahil> Engineer:the one that starts with kernel
[05:13] <Dr_willis> a bigger question is why dident the installer put an entry in for windows at all. hmm.
[05:13] <Ace_NoOne> hey there - I wanna install (K)Ubuntu to run in parallel with WinXP (to get familiar with it)
[05:13] <Innomen> 1, exacxtly what does chain load mean? 2, how in the world could editing that file lead to the menu totally not working, and three how do i fix number 2?
[05:13] <Ace_NoOne> but I've never worked with virtual machines before - any suggestions? (preferably FOSS)
[05:13] <Innomen> yes
[05:13] <Innomen> it should be semi smart
[05:13] <Engineer> ok, i will give it a try and come back to this computer if it doesnt work :) thanks for now
[05:14] <Innomen> "would you like to duel boot?" *questions*
[05:14] <Dr_willis> chain load means 'go to the mbr of the drive and load ITS boot record' i belive.
[05:14] <Dr_willis> Innomen,  i woudl guess a typo on your part.. for #2 :)
[05:14] <Innomen> no
[05:14] <Innomen> i dont mean the entries not working i mean it jusat skips it
[05:14] <taonari> Hi is there a howto guide to install Gnome 2.20 on a Ubuntu 7.04 installation?
[05:14] <Innomen> and all i changed was the windows entry
[05:15] <Dr_willis> just skips?
[05:15] <Innomen> yea
[05:15] <Innomen> never shows it
[05:15] <Innomen> not for an instant
[05:15] <Dr_willis> never shows the grub menu you are meaning to say?
[05:15] <usr13> Innomen, Did you make changes to the menu.lst file?
[05:15] <Innomen> yes!
[05:15] <Dr_willis> then be more clear. :) heh heh...
[05:15] <Innomen> *sigh*
[05:15] <Innomen> i have been you just arent paying attention to me
[05:15] <Mortice> innomen: you have to enter the grub menu. by default, it doesn't display. IIRC, the key to show it is ESC
[05:16] <usr13> Innomen, Show us, we will try and help you fix it.  pastebin
[05:16] <Innomen> mortice: i asked how to make it show by default 40 mins ago got my answer and applied it
[05:16] <Innomen> i dont have to hit escape
[05:16] <Innomen> or at least i didnt
[05:16] <JuJuBee_> !screen-resolution
[05:16] <leo_rockw> greetings
[05:16] <taonari> Does anyone know of a howto guide on how to install Gnome 2.20?
[05:16] <Dr_willis> I though the grub menu shows by derfault now.. or at least it seemed to on my last few installs.
[05:16] <Mortice> Innomen: it sounds like there's a problem with your menu.lst then. Would you please put it in a pastebin?
[05:16] <Innomen> it was comeing up by default as i want when i had the windows entry (based on teh crap example) that returned error 12
[05:17] <Innomen> cant, other machine
[05:17] <Innomen> no net access
[05:17] <Innomen> Dr_willis: mine wanted esc
[05:17] <Mortice> Dr_willis: that depends on the setup, afaik. If you're only installing ubuntu (no dual-boot), then it defaults not to showing the menu I think
[05:17] <Innomen> *shrugs*
[05:17] <Innomen> my install never asked about duel boot
[05:17] <Innomen> but i did it backwards
[05:17] <Dr_willis> yea. i think it scans what all you have installed and it adds and decides to hide if theres no need..  I always edit the menu.lst first thing to tweak a few parts I dont like.
[05:17] <Innomen> so thats not shocking
[05:17] <vmlinuz`> Mortice: I've downloaded a gdm theme, but can't seem to be able to install it ><
[05:18] <allquixotic> Is hacking the DSDT (Yuck!) the only way to prevent a lid open event from bringing the laptop out of standby?
[05:18] <Dr_willis> I always have my os's on seperate hd's also.
[05:18] <Mortice> vmlinuz`: did you extract the package and look at its contents?
[05:18] <Innomen> Dr_willis: it requires an edit every time for me
[05:18] <Innomen> i still havent gotten it working
[05:18] <Innomen> this is day 5
[05:18] <vmlinuz`> Mortice: yep.
[05:18] <Innomen> god the cd takes forever to boot
[05:18] <Dr_willis> Yep - the live cd is a bit sluggish.
[05:18] <Mortice> vmlinuz`: could you pastebin the result of "ls -al" on the directory you extracted it to?
[05:19] <Innomen> i wish the menu.lst could be tested
[05:19] <Dr_willis> I tend to use some other light-live-cd as a rescue cd.
[05:19] <Innomen> i hate haveing to wait litteraly 10 minutes between changes
[05:19] <Dr_willis> Puppylinux 3.0 just came out. :)
[05:19] <VixyFox> Hey everyone, I was planning on installing either KUbuntu or Ubuntu... but I'm a bit confused as to themajor differences. I noticed on the KUbuntu site that if you are using Ubuntu you just have to install one package and you have KUbuntu, but what's the major difference that would make me do one over the other?
[05:19] <Engineer> sahil: are you still here? the boot-up still freezes when it comes to the file system
[05:19] <usr13> Innomen, It CAN be tested
[05:19] <kitche> Innomen: you can test it use grub command line
[05:19] <Mortice> VixyFox: the main difference is that kubuntu is based on kde, while ubuntu is based on gnome
[05:19] <leo_rockw> VixyFox, the desktop environment is the only difference
[05:19] <Innomen> and everyone assumes i just knew that
[05:20] <Mortice> VixyFox: but as you've noticed, you can switch between them easily.
[05:20] <Innomen> GOD that is the worst part about linux
[05:20] <len> Hi, who plays wow with wine
[05:20] <len> ?
[05:20] <Innomen> no heads up, and assumption of chip in the brain surgery
[05:20] <vmlinuz`> Mortice: http://pastebin.com/m7367c36e
[05:20] <sahil> Engineer: you passed both the options?
[05:20] <Mortice> Innomen: you don't ask questions that would help you and you have a bad attitude when you get answers, yet you expect us to continue to help? :S
[05:20] <MenZa> !wow | len
[05:20] <ubotu> len: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[05:20] <Mortice> vmlinuz`: thanks.
[05:20] <VixyFox> Mortice, leo_rockw: Okay so it's strictly just the desktop environment?
[05:21] <alexis> hi my friends. I need help with my ubuntu, i have ubuntu in my house but i can't play mp3 and i don't have internet to download gstreamer... what can i do?
[05:21] <Engineer> i passed both options at the end of the "kernel" line
[05:21] <Innomen> Mortice: yur just mad because i called you on being mean to retiredinmaine
[05:21] <leo_rockw> VixyFox, yup
[05:21] <neumind> is for ubuntu soft wher i can make instrumental?
[05:21] <cancer_girl_> #ubuntu
[05:21] <VixyFox> leo_rockw: Thank you ^_^
[05:21] <Mortice> Innomen: you trolled me in-channel for helping someone, but that's offtopic
[05:21] <len> MenZa: I got a problem here, I tryed start wow but keeps carshing on loading screen
[05:21] <leo_rockw> VixyFox, np
[05:21] <Innomen> good stab back, frustration is not a bad attitude, did i mention this is day 5 with an excuciating 10 minute wait or more for resinatlls between every edit?
[05:21] <usr13> Innomen, One way to test is to back up the file, edit it and reboot.  e.g.  cp /boot/grub/menu.lst  /boot/grub/menu.lst.bak  ;  vim /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:21] <leo_rockw> VixyFox, you can even have kde, gnome, xfce installed at the same time and pick the one you want to use
[05:21] <neumind> is for ubuntu soft wher i can make instrumental?
[05:22] <Innomen> usr13: ok then you cant test it
[05:22] <alexis> hi my friends. I need help with my ubuntu, i have ubuntu in my house but i can't play mp3 and i don't have internet to download gstreamer... what can i do?
[05:22] <Innomen> you can only try it
[05:22] <heatman> exit
[05:22] <Dr_willis> actually dosent the grub-install command verify a proper menu.lst ?
[05:22] <vmlinuz`> Mortice: no thank you.
[05:22] <alexis> please help me
[05:22] <VixyFox> leo_rockw: Really? O_o How would you go about doing that?
[05:22] <alexis> hi my friends. I need help with my ubuntu, i have ubuntu in my house but i can't play mp3 and i don't have internet to download gstreamer... what can i do?
[05:22] <leo_rockw> !repeat > alexis, read the private
[05:22] <usr13> usr13, Leave a working section alone, and only change section that does not work as you wish.
[05:22] <Innomen> Dr_willis: i tend to trust you most
[05:22] <sahil> Engineer: This may seem silly, but did you press enter after entering both options and then press b or just press b?
[05:22] <Innomen> how do i use the command to test it?
[05:22] <Mortice> vmlinuz`: sorry, I'm being stupid here. It should be as easy as going into System > Administration > Login Window, choosing the local tab, add hitting the 'add' button, then choosing the file you extracted that directory from.
[05:23] <Dr_willis> Innomen,  thats scary.. but i have fought with grub for several years.. and read  the Whole grub homepage several times
[05:23] <leo_rockw> VixyFox, if you install ubuntu typing "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" (w/o quotes) will get you kde
[05:23] <sahil> Engineer: I just checked you have to press enter don't you
[05:23] <usr13> Innomen, If you need to add entry for MS Windows, you can just uncomment the suggested section.
[05:23] <Dr_willis> Innomen,  'sudo update-grub' (but that might not work from a live cd)
[05:23] <leo_rockw> VixyFox, for xfce replace kubuntu for xubuntu
[05:23] <vmlinuz`> Mortice: ok, how about changing icons & whole desktop theme? its real hard >_<
[05:23] <Engineer> sahil: i pressed enter, but not b.. what's the b for?
[05:23] <Dr_willis> Innomen,  in fact i think it WONT work from a live cd, sice the /dev/ and /boot/ will be wrong places.
[05:23] <Innomen> unrec command
[05:23] <VixyFox> leo_rockw: Okay, and if you get all those how would you switch between them?
[05:23] <alexis> hi my friends. I need help with my ubuntu, i have ubuntu in my house but i can't play mp3 and i don't have internet to download gstreamer... what can i do?
[05:23] <Innomen> yea wont work
[05:24] <alexis> please help me
[05:24] <Mortice> vmlinuz`: changing desktop themes should be similarly easy. System > Preferences > Theme
[05:24] <Innomen> usr13: lol
[05:24] <sahil> Engineer:the b is to boot that line, I believe if you just press esc back to the main screen the changes are lost
[05:24] <alexis> anyone can help me please?
[05:24] <Innomen> its like you've not even been here
[05:24] <alexis> hi my friends. I need help with my ubuntu, i have ubuntu in my house but i can't play mp3 and i don't have internet to download gstreamer... what can i do?
[05:24] <leo_rockw> VixyFox, i never did it myself, but i'm pretty sure you get options in the loggin screen
[05:24] <usr13> Innomen, ?
[05:24] <Dr_willis> Innomen,  one would need to properly 'chroot' over to the installed system.
[05:24] <VixyFox> Alexis: you aren't paying attention, someone sent you a private message, stop spamming
[05:24] <VixyFox> leo_rockw: Okay, thank you ^_^
[05:24] <Mortice> vmlinuz`: changing icons, right click the icon you want changed and select the new one. :)
[05:24] <vmlinuz`> Mortice: how about icons
[05:24] <leo_rockw> VixyFox, np
[05:24] <usr13> Innomen, Oh, are you working from Live CD?
[05:24] <VixyFox> leo_rockw: I will have to try it
[05:24] <Innomen> yes
[05:24] <Engineer> sahil: ok, i thought it would keep the changes, as there is no other way to get back to the boot-selection
[05:25] <Innomen> do i have a choice?
[05:25] <Innomen> notrhing else lets me edit the file
[05:25] <leo_rockw> VixyFox, then after you decide which one you want, just uninstall the others
[05:25] <sahil> Engineer:go try i eagerly await to hear of your sucess
[05:25] <Mortice> sorry vmlinuz`, I should be clearer. Right-click the icon, choose properties, then click the icon in that window
[05:25] <Innomen> sudo gedit menu.lst just blinks and ignores me
[05:25] <Innomen> again, assuming i should know something
[05:25] <Dr_willis> Innomen,  in theory if you can get to grub. you could enter the proper commands and boot a system :)
[05:25] <usr13> Innomen, You will need to do as Dr_willis, suggests, chroot to the root partition.
[05:25] <Innomen> error messages being beneath the OS i guess
[05:25] <VixyFox> leo_rockw: That makes sense. Now I just need to get myself a new sound card before doing this x.x I have a Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio card which... low and behold is not supported
[05:26] <alexis> VixyFOx excuse me but i don't spamming
[05:26] <Innomen> Dr_willis: could it load the menu? or attempt to?
[05:26] <Dr_willis> theres a few commands needed to properly chroot..i always have to check the gentoo install docs to rember them. heh.. wonder if thers a factoid.
[05:26] <VixyFox> Alexis you put in the same message at least 3 times in a row
[05:26] <Innomen> like run menu.lst or something?
[05:26] <VixyFox> Alexis that is spamming
[05:26] <Dr_willis> Innomen,  should be. but my grub-fu is rusty
[05:26] <alexis> Nobody yet help me
[05:26] <alexis> ok i understand excuse me
[05:26] <leo_rockw> VixyFox, did you check the alsa-project site for that?
[05:26] <usr13> Innomen,  Inorder to do commands from the system.  You can, however, edit the menu.list file WITHOUT chrooting to the root filesystem.
[05:26] <Engineer> sahil: wow, thank you! :) now it seems like its working.. at least ubuntu starts to boot
[05:26] <alexis> i just try to anyone help me
[05:26] <Innomen> usr13: yur like 15 steps behind and yur frustrating me heavily
[05:27] <alexis> i don't speak english very well...
[05:27] <VixyFox> leo_rockw: I did, and unfortunately I heard nothing but bad things about it, but I could try again to see if any changes have come along
[05:27] <Innomen> i appreciate the intention, but just let it go man
[05:27] <Dr_willis> BRB - checking out PuppyLinux3. bb in a few.
[05:27] <alexis> VixyFOx can you help me?
[05:27] <leo_rockw> alexis, what language do you speak?
[05:27] <bmt2> hello to all
[05:27] <Innomen> starting over
[05:27] <VixyFox> Alexis, No I'm sorry, I'm here getting questions answered as well
[05:27] <leo_rockw> VixyFox, you heard bad things about alsa or the card? lol
[05:28] <leo_rockw> VixyFox, alsa project is pretty much the biggest sound project (along w/ oss)
[05:28] <VixyFox> leo_rockw LOL The card not the site XD
[05:28] <leo_rockw> VixyFox, ok... haha
[05:28] <VixyFox> Leo_rockw: Because Creative is keeping the source for X-Fi closed
[05:28] <leo_rockw> alexis, what language do you speak?
[05:29] <leo_rockw> VixyFox, i have an audigy 2 on the desktop... i'm switching it to kubuntu as soon as i do my backups... i hope that card is supported
[05:29] <bmt2> is there a quicker way to download Ubuntu Ultimate Gamers 1.4 ?
[05:29] <kitche> bmt2: that's not supported here
[05:29] <VixyFox> leo_rockw: Here is an exact quote from the alsa website
[05:29] <VixyFox> leo_rockw: 	 [Unsupported]  [PCI]  Card delivered to developers. Completely new architecture. Creative actively preventing support due to no datasheets being released to ALSA developers. Reverse engineering work not started due to lack of time.
[05:29] <alexis> I SPeak spanish
[05:30] <leo_rockw> alexis, entra a #ubuntu-es o #ubuntu-ar
[05:30] <Vlet> alexis: It's going to be a little hard. You'll need to download the packages elsewhere and put them on CD, but the problem is that there may be required packages
[05:30] <alexis> leo_rockw, si ya estoy alla tambien... ya me estan ayudando
[05:30] <Engineer> sahil: one more question: how can i select the OS which i want to boot? i got winXP on the same HD
[05:30] <leo_rockw> VixyFox, bummer
[05:31] <sahil> Engineer: Up and down?
[05:31] <leo_rockw> VixyFox, i used to like creative... not anymore, haha
[05:31] <VixyFox> leo_rockw: Exactly, and I've had the card for a while so I really can't bring itback to the store x.x
[05:31] <alexis> Vlet, yes i guess. But i don't know what to do with the dependencias?
[05:31] <Engineer> no, it automatically boots ubuntu..
[05:31] <VixyFox> leo_rockw: What would you suggest that works with Ubuntu?
[05:31] <Engineer> when i got 2 windows, there was a selection screen with a 30sec countdown
[05:32] <Innomen> !cli
[05:32] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[05:33] <leo_rockw> VixyFox, i've been using linux for a month now (i didn't own a computer before) so idk what's supported and what's not this days
[05:33] <VixyFox> leo_rockw: Okay, I'll have to do some research with that ;)
[05:33] <leo_rockw> VixyFox, i have an intel hda... it works (after a lot of tweaking)
[05:33] <Innomen> how do i install grub?
[05:34] <Innomen> uninstall
[05:34] <Innomen> sorry
[05:34] <VixyFox> leo_rockw: I'll have to talk to my friend, she has a sound card that works right off the bat x.x
[05:34] <Engineer> is there any bootmanager where I can select the OS?
[05:34] <leo_rockw> VixyFox, mine did too, but with esd it stuttered
[05:34] <Innomen> Engineer: grub
[05:34] <Innomen> its built in
[05:34] <vmlinuz`> whats the command for the "Run" alt+f2. I kind of want to add item into my main menu, but there is only command, and i only know the Bind.
[05:35] <Innomen> i'll tell you what i know but you'll get stuck where i am
[05:35] <VixyFox> leo_rockw Ah I see. What ticks me off though is that my onboard sound won't work at all
[05:35] <julius> Does anyone know if the new AMDATI opensource drivers will support the X1950 Pro?
[05:35] <mase> help meeee
[05:35] <Innomen> mase: no
[05:35] <mase> my window title bars dissapeaared
[05:35] <Vlet> Engineer: When you install ubuntu, it installs 'grub' which does allow you to
[05:35] <Engineer> yes, i saw grub, but how can i tell it to boot up windows?
[05:35] <mase> after i selected normal visual effects
[05:35] <Innomen> Engineer: boot from the live cd, and edit the menu.lst file
[05:35] <Innomen> scroll down to the section wherre there arent #### everywhere
[05:35] <Vlet> Engineer: Well, when your computer boots, don't you see a little menu for a few seconds?
[05:35] <leo_rockw> julius, there's an official release information in amd.com you're better off reading that
[05:36] <Innomen> and copy/paste the windows entry from the stop of the file
[05:36] <Engineer> ohwee, i just get 3 seconds to press escape, to alter the ubuntu-bootlines
[05:36] <mase> My window titlebars dissapeared after turning on "desktop effects" on ubuntu 7.10 ??
[05:36] <Innomen> Engineer: find "hiddenmenu"
[05:36] <DKn> hi all
[05:36] <Innomen> put a # in front
[05:36] <Innomen> it'll not make you hit escape
[05:36] <Vlet> Engineer: but it doesn't have windows in that list?
[05:36] <Engineer> oh ok
[05:36] <Engineer> no, there is no windows to select
[05:36] <titun> how do i save a .iso image from my CD to harddisk via K3b or GnomeBaker??
[05:37] <Innomen> Engineer: did you read what i just said?
[05:37] <leo_rockw> VixyFox, i never used my desktop built in card. i wonder if it is any good, haha
[05:37] <Engineer> yes, i will try that
[05:37] <Frack-Hesse> hello
[05:37] <LM1> I was just looking at the blueprints for gutsy and saw xorg 7.3 is deferred... :C  this means no xorg 7.3 in gutsy????
[05:37] <VixyFox> Leo_rockw: LOL Yeah I have no idea
[05:37] <Matir> LM1, that would be correct.
[05:37] <rediz_> any 1 know what i can do. got ubuntu dapper drake on 80gig maste hdr &ubuntustudio on 40 gig slave duel booting,but i need to put windoze on my box.whats the best way to doit?
[05:37] <Frack-Hesse> where are the keymaps for the console in ubuntu? the dir /usr/share/keymaps is empty :(
[05:37] <leo_rockw> !gutsy > LM1, read the private
[05:37] <LM1> that s0cks!
[05:38] <LM1> :C
[05:38] <Frack-Hesse> c:
[05:38] <Vlet> Engineer: It's strange though that windows isn't in that list. You sure you didn't wipe your drive when installing?
[05:39] <titun> how do i save a .iso image from my CD to harddisk via K3b or GnomeBaker??
[05:39] <Frack-Hesse> where are the keymaps for the console in ubuntu? the dir /usr/share/keymaps is empty :(
[05:39] <Innomen> Engineer: boot from the live cd, and edit the menu.lst (its in the boot/grub folder, and must be edited sudo, right click, open with other app, pick gedit at the bottom, and add "sudo" to the front of it) file then scroll down to the section in the menu.lst file you just opened, wherre there arent #### everywhere, then and copy/paste the windows entry from the top of the file
[05:40] <Innomen> otherwise you wont be allowed to save changes
[05:40] <Innomen> and you'll end up where i am
[05:40] <Innomen> wanting to uninstall it and start over
[05:40] <Innomen> since you'll ahve to reboot 400 times while testing
[05:40] <mase> My window titlebars dissapeared after turning on "desktop effects" on ubuntu 7.10 ??
[05:40] <Innomen> but no one will tell you how to uninstall grub
[05:40] <Innomen> observe: Can someone please tell me how to uninstall grub?"
[05:41] <kitche> mase: #ubuntu+1 for gutsy support
[05:41] <Innomen> see? nada
[05:41] <leo_rockw> Innomen, you can reinstall grub
[05:41] <leo_rockw> Innomen, and make adjustments from scratch
[05:41] <Innomen> i did setup again
[05:41] <Innomen> the menu.lst is the same one
[05:42] <leo_rockw> Innomen, what would you use instead of grub then if you uninstall it?
[05:42] <Innomen> i'd just put grub back on
[05:42] <Innomen> like i said doing setup does not remake the menu file
[05:42] <leo_rockw> Innomen, what's the difference between that and reinstalling?
[05:42] <Innomen> ^
[05:42] <leo_rockw> Innomen, it did it for me
[05:42] <Innomen> hmmm
[05:43] <Innomen> maybe i messed up
[05:43] <leo_rockw> Innomen, i don't remember the command i use, somebody gave it to me here
[05:43] <Innomen> let me try again
[05:43] <Innomen> was it root (hd0,0) >setup (hd0,0)
[05:43] <Innomen> ?
[05:43] <leo_rockw> Innomen, there's a package called grub... but idk how risky would it be to uninstall it
[05:43] <Frack-Hesse> k, for third and last time:
[05:43] <Frack-Hesse> where are the keymaps for the console in ubuntu? the dir /usr/share/keymaps is empty :(
[05:44] <leo_rockw> Innomen, i don't remember what it was
[05:44] <Innomen> oky
[05:44] <leo_rockw> Innomen, but i'm pretty sure it wasn't that one
[05:45] <Innomen> lovely
[05:45] <Innomen> well grub has no "reinstall" form within it
[05:45] <leo_rockw> Innomen, you could try "sudo apt-get remove --purge grub" idk how bad could that be, tho
[05:45] <genii> Frack-Hesse: Install packages console-data and console-tools
[05:46] <Frack-Hesse> hey thx :)
[05:46] <Frack-Hesse> i'll try that
[05:46] <titun> how do i save a .iso image of a cd to my harddisk, probably in k3b or gnomebaker?
[05:46] <tremby> hey folks. i just installed the beta of gutsy on one of my machines and can't get it to access the network. i've tried "roaming mode" (which i've never heard of before) and a test ping says "network is unreachable". tried dhcp but it's not managing to obtain an ip address (other machines on the network are fine, and this one is too when booted to windows). any ideas what could be wrong?
[05:46] <leo_rockw> !gutsy > tremby, read the private msg
[05:46] <bulmer> titun you can use dd to copy it to the hd
[05:46] <tremby> ok, thanks leo_rockw
[05:46] <leo_rockw> tremby, np
[05:47] <Guest9> hi
[05:47] <Guest9> !java
[05:47] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[05:47] <titun> bulmer: so will the method descried work here? http://lifehacker.com/software/how-to/create-iso-disk-images-and-generate-md5-checksums-268304.php..... it also sayt to use a command dd?
[05:47] <Guest9> !java | Guest9
[05:47] <Cyber_Stalker> sudo apt-get install netbeans doesnt work, whats the correct name for the IDE in the repos
[05:47] <Guest9> !flash | Guest9
[05:47] <titun> bulmer: but a GUI software will be much hepful
[05:47] <leo_rockw> Cyber_Stalker, use apt-cache search
[05:48] <Mortice> Cyber_Stalker: netbeans5.5, but apt-cache search is the way to find out answers to questions like that in future :)
[05:48] <bulmer> titun i dont use gui too often..i dont know if any is equivalent
[05:49] <Cyber_Stalker> thanks guys
[05:49] <titun> bulmer: humm... as i am not much confortable in CLI, anyway dd should work for now...as k3b and gnomebaker don't have that option
[05:49] <schlumpf> hi im trying to umount my cdrom drive but it keeps telling me that it is busy but i dont have the prog loaded which is on the cd
[05:49] <Engineer> innomen: It seems like I dont have GEdit, at least its not in the "open with other application" list
[05:50] <leo_rockw> Engineer, are you using kde?
[05:50] <Engineer> no, gnome
[05:50] <Innomen> sorry
[05:50] <Innomen> its called text editor at the bottom
[05:50] <Innomen> "gedit" is its name
[05:50] <bulmer> titun get comfortable with cli, it will become friendlier
[05:50] <Juanjo-sfe> hi
[05:50] <titun> ok
[05:50] <Engineer> oh, ok.. thought it was listed as gedit
[05:50] <Innomen> you'll see that when you goto "use cutsom command"
[05:50] <Innomen> it'll say "gedit"
[05:50] <Innomen> you make it say "sudo gedit"
[05:51] <Juanjo-sfe> could you tell me if there is an xsd editor in ubuntu?
[05:51] <ganes2> what is  feisty and Gutsy??
[05:51] <Innomen> without quotes of course
[05:51] <Engineer> so i just select the text editor and there will be a prompt for the "sudo"?
[05:51] <leo_rockw> titun, think of the cli as smth that can always get you out of trouble, no matter what. and don't be afraid of it :-D
[05:51] <leo_rockw> ganes2, codenames for versions
[05:51] <Innomen> yea click text edit at the bottom and then click use a custom command
[05:51] <Innomen> yur adding command line switches to the begining
[05:51] <Innomen> sudo is important
[05:51] <Innomen> it lets you save the chanbges you make
[05:51] <schlumpf> hi im trying to umount my cdrom drive but it keeps telling me that it is busy but i dont have the prog loaded which is on the cd
[05:51] <Innomen> !sudo
[05:51] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:51] <Engineer> ok
[05:51] <Engineer> with the ! ?
[05:52] <titun> leo_rockw: ya sooner or later i have to use it, if i am going to use ubuntu or any linux os for long time to come :)
[05:52] <Innomen> what
[05:52] <Engineer> oh dammit, the phone is ringing
[05:52] <Innomen> lol
[05:52] <Engineer> is the "!" needed in front of the sudo?
[05:52] <schlumpf> no
[05:52] <Innomen> no
[05:52] <Engineer> ok
[05:52] <leo_rockw> titun, some distros are trying to get rid of it. a really bad move in my opinion
[05:52] <Innomen> thats just how you make tyhe bot explain stuff
[05:52] <Innomen> !cli
[05:52] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[05:52] <Innomen> see?
[05:53] <leo_rockw> Engineer, the ! is the bot command
[05:53] <schlumpf> no
[05:53] <schlumpf> hi im trying to umount my cdrom drive but it keeps telling me that it is busy but i dont have the prog loaded which is on the cd
[05:53] <titun> leo_rockw: yes linux will loose its originallity i guess
[05:53] <leo_rockw> !repeat | schlumpf, read the private msg
[05:53] <ubotu> schlumpf, read the private msg: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:53] <soundray> schlumpf: you've got a process that accesses the CD still. Usually, that's a shell with a path on the CD as its working directory.
[05:54] <leo_rockw> woah... that was weird...
[05:54] <ganes2>  leo_rockw:which 1 is stable?whats d difference??
[05:54] <leo_rockw> ganes2, feisty is stable, gutsy is in beta. gutsy gets released on the 18th i believe
[05:55] <david003> hi. how do i disable the nvidia logo at boot?
[05:55] <ikonia> cumface that nick name is inappropriate for this channel
[05:55] <Azrael24> david...do it via bios
[05:55] <leo_rockw> titun, once you start using the cli you'll realize that sometimes using the gui is a waste of time
[05:55] <silent[ca] > what is the command to launch the knetworkconf in gnome?
[05:55] <david003> Azrael: no it actually is part of the gnome thing
[05:55] <Azrael24> right...argh
[05:55] <schlumpf> soundray, i dont think that can be since i deleated the directory associated to the cd
[05:56] <Azrael24> ikonia is a pro
[05:56] <Innomen> no doubt
[05:56] <ikonia> Azrael24 pardon ?
[05:56] <bullgard4> df shows for /dev/sda7  "available 519712 (kB)", but Gedit "free: 1,04 GiB." How to explain this contradiction? (http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/15665/)
[05:56] <titun> leo_rockw: yes i had to copy a folder to /etc and in GUI i could not do it! CLI helped me to change file permissions and then move :) here CLI was much helpful than GUI
[05:56] <soundray> schlumpf: you can't delete a directory on CD
[05:56] <Innomen> ikonia: its a compliment, one human gives one to another human when they respect something about the second human
[05:56] <Innomen> :)
[05:56] <ikonia> Innomen flattering, I missed the command
[05:56] <titun> leo_rockw: i think many more advanced tasks might be easy with CLI
[05:56] <ikonia> comment
[05:57] <Azrael24> ikonia...do you know your ubuntu stuff?  I don't...henceforth you're a pro...not playing mind games with you
[05:57] <Innomen> command lol
[05:57] <Naitse> hey!!! :) helo
[05:57] <Naitse> hello
[05:57] <taonari> Hi how do I turn on ssh so I can remote into a new install?
[05:57] <Naitse> sorry
[05:57] <leo_rockw> titun, that's because you don't have permission to write in /etc you shouldn't change the permissions, you should use sudo
[05:57] <soundray> david003: add this after Driver "nvidia" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf: Option "NoLogo" "true"
[05:57] <Naitse> what is the name for the "task bar" because i want to change the skin but... can't find anything
[05:57] <schlumpf> soundray, no i meant i deleated the program from the cd which was installed on my harddrive
[05:57] <titun> leo_rockw: yes i know, and changing file permissions and moving them was easier in CLI, that is what i am saying :)
[05:57] <Heman> Hello, please may someone help me to get my friends wireless working on ubuntu
[05:58] <Innomen> ikonia: how does one pull grub from a parition?
[05:58] <ikonia> Innomen do you mean remove it ?
[05:58] <Heman> Its a d-link dwl g520
[05:58] <Innomen> sure, yes
[05:58] <Innomen> i hosed my menu.lst file
[05:58] <leo_rockw> Naitse, what desktop?
[05:58] <Innomen> i guess
[05:58] <ikonia> Innomen overwrite it with something, windows bootloader, or blank space
[05:58] <Naitse> gnome
[05:58] <Innomen> what happens if i just delet menu.lst?
[05:58] <soundray> schlumpf: that doesn't matter. If you can't unmount the CD, it's because a process is accessing the CD still. It could be a shell, or perhaps a nautilus (file browser) window
[05:58] <Innomen> will setup write a new one?
[05:59] <Naitse> leo_rockw, sorry... Gnome
[05:59] <ikonia> Innomen new menu.lst or grub bootsector
[05:59] <leo_rockw> Naitse, idk then, i use kde. sorry
[05:59] <Innomen> menuy.lst
[05:59] <ikonia> Innomen no, it won't
[05:59] <Innomen> poo
[05:59] <ikonia> Innomen you'd need to re-install grub from scratch for that
[05:59] <Innomen> :(
[05:59] <Naitse> leo_rockw, ok thanks anyway :)
[06:00] <Innomen> whats that invilve?
[06:00] <soundray> Innomen: what's the problem?
[06:00] <Innomen> involve
[06:00] <schlumpf> soundray, how can i find out which process that is without rebooting?
[06:00] <Innomen> soundray: i jacked up my menu file i guess
[06:00] <Innomen> windows keeps booting
[06:00] <soundray> schlumpf: do you know the device name of your CD drive?
[06:00] <ikonia> Innomen I've not got access to an ubuntu box so I can't give you the exact command but there is an apt command that will re-apply all the files, something like "apt-get --reinstall install grub"
[06:00] <leo_rockw> schlumpf, something like ksysguard for gnome... w/e that is
[06:00] <krau2> where can i find the source code of the standart commands like rm, cp, ...
[06:00] <krau2> ???
[06:00] <leo_rockw> schlumpf, top maybe
[06:01] <Innomen> ikonia: oky, thanx
[06:01] <soundray> Innomen: can you post your menu.lst on paste.ubuntu-nl.org and give us the URL please
[06:01] <Innomen> lol
[06:01] <schlumpf> nothing on top and the name is cdrom
[06:01] <Innomen> no
[06:01] <Heman> does anyone know how to get a d-link dwl g520 to work in ubuntu
[06:01] <soundray> schlumpf: no, it starts with /dev/
[06:01] <Innomen> no one remembers me or anything is say, it hurts
[06:01] <erUSUL> krau2: on the gnu website (core-utils and file utils are fsf packages)
[06:01] <Innomen> machine in question has no net
[06:01] <soundray> schlumpf: type 'mount' to find out what it is
[06:01] <leo_rockw> schlumpf, cdrom is the mounting point, not the device
[06:01] <erUSUL> krau2: or dl de deb-src
[06:02] <titun> how does chmod count.... if 7 is for rwx... so which is what?
[06:02] <krau2> ah thx
[06:02] <Pici> krau2: Its in the coreutils package.  apt-get source coreutils might work (if its not a metapackage)
[06:02] <soundray> Innomen: I can't follow the channel all the time, even if it hurts you.
[06:02] <krau2> kk
[06:02] <leo_rockw> titun, chmod can be used in 3 different ways.
[06:02] <krau2> and in /usr/src is nothing????
[06:02] <erUSUL> titun: 4r 2w 1x iirc
[06:02] <krau2> Pici
[06:02] <schlumpf> soundray, ah its called /dev/hdc
[06:02] <Innomen> *sniffle*
[06:02] <leo_rockw> titun, octal, binary and UGO
[06:02] <jak3> how do i create more workspaces?
[06:03] <krau2> and in /usr/src is nothing????
[06:03] <leo_rockw> titun, wait... that's not right lol
[06:03] <soundray> schlumpf: okay. 'lsof | grep /dev/hdc' to find out what's blocking it.
[06:03] <leo_rockw> titun, lemme get you a tutorial on that. it will explain it better than me
[06:03] <shearn89> Innomen: put the username of the person you're talking to at the beginning of your post - it makes it easier to follow conversations!
[06:03] <Pici> krau2: apt-get source will put it into the local directory
[06:03] <krau2> i cant find anything but i thought it must be there
[06:03] <krau2> kk
[06:03] <krau2> :)
[06:03] <titun> leo_rockw: one is 777, then we got a+x and ?
[06:03] <hetauma_> can some1 plz remind me if imwheelrc has any entries in 7.04 by default ?
[06:03] <leo_rockw> titun, http://catcode.com/teachmod/
[06:03] <titun> leo_rockw: yes :)
[06:03] <david003> hello. how can i do a benchmark of my pc?
[06:04] <soundray> david003: do you read me?
[06:04] <titun> leo_rockw: ah ok
[06:04] <leo_rockw> titun, basically it is user group others
[06:04] <david003> soundray: yes...
[06:04] <leo_rockw> titun, and it is read write execute
[06:04] <titun> humm.....
[06:04] <soundray> david003: just because I responded to you earlier and you didn't comment
[06:04] <leo_rockw> titun, so you can use a notation like this: r-x rwx ---
[06:04] <david003> soundray: oh sorry, but i did a reboot and lost all
[06:04] <schlumpf> soundray, well two things turnd out but what am i looking for exactly?
[06:05] <david003> soundray: thanks by the way
[06:05] <soundray> schlumpf: is one of them bash?
[06:05] <leo_rockw> titun, that would be user reads and executes, group reads writes and executes, others can't do anything
[06:05] <soundray> david003: did it work then?
[06:05] <david003> perfectly
[06:05] <leo_rockw> titun, that can be translated to binary like this: 101 111 000
[06:05] <schlumpf> soundray, yes should i kill the pid?
[06:05] <leo_rockw> titun, and that can be translated to octal into... idk, i cant convert from binary to octal in my head lol
[06:05] <soundray> schlumpf: you could, or just find the shell and run 'cd' in it.
[06:06] <leo_rockw> titun, but you get the main idea
[06:06] <titun> leo_rockw: as r_x    rw_ etc is in UGO, right?
[06:06] <leo_rockw> titun, all 3 methods follow ugo
[06:06] <titun> oh
[06:06] <soundray> david003: my favorite benchmark is to throw two machines out of the window, and see which one hits the ground first.
[06:06] <leo_rockw> titun, you can use the rwx notation, or the binary notation or the octal notation. your choice
[06:06] <schlumpf> soundray, dunno how to find a shell sry :)
[06:07] <david003> soundtray: i guess the only problem is that it wil lbe hard to take advantage of that.
[06:07] <soundray> david003: most mainstream benchmarks provide exactly the same amount of meaningful information.
[06:07] <david003> are they still usable?
[06:07] <david003> mainstream benchmark?
[06:07] <Innomen> YES! freakin finally!
[06:07] <soundray> schlumpf: it's probably running in a terminal window.
[06:07] <Ace_NoOne> Ubuntu is Linux 2.6? or 2.4? (need to know for VirtualBox)
[06:07] <leo_rockw> titun, 775 is just another way to say: 111 111 101
[06:08] <soundray> Ace_NoOne: 2.6
[06:08] <Ace_NoOne> thanks
[06:08] <leo_rockw> titun, or rwx rwx r-x
[06:08] <Innomen> hmmm
[06:08] <Innomen> xp apears to be stealing the boot flag
[06:08] <erUSUL> leo_rockw: my chmod only accdepts octal or o+x notation...
[06:08] <Innomen> how do i lock that? or can i
[06:08] <soundray> Innomen: doesn't matter. The boot flag doesn't mean a thing to ubuntu.
[06:09] <Innomen> bs
[06:09] <david003> soundray: whats a mainstream benchmark? i though i meant something like 3dmark ecc
[06:09] <Innomen> if windows partition has it, no grub menu
[06:09] <soundray> david003: yeah, that for example
[06:09] <Innomen> just windows
[06:09] <leo_rockw> erUSUL, true... i just checked
[06:09] <leo_rockw> erUSUL, well... idk then lol
[06:09] <david003> soundray: then do you know of any for ubuntu and for win toghether?
[06:09] <soundray> Innomen: then you need to install grub to your boot disk, rather than just the root partition.
[06:09] <Innomen> oky
[06:10] <allquixotic> does anyone know how to stop ACPI from bringing my laptop out of standby when I open the lid? I am using a Thinkpad X60
[06:10] <schlumpf> soundray, only have the one open with which im trying to should it down.... but as it seems that was the one so thanks allot
[06:10] <Innomen> is that "root" or "setup" or both
[06:10] <coldboot> When I download an amd64 image, is that the image I'd want for an Intel Core 2 Duo processor?
[06:10] <coldboot> The page doesn't say...
[06:10] <david003> coldboot: probably not...
[06:10] <soundray> david003: no. I've stated my opinion: "general" benchmarks are irrelevant. You have to test a machine in its intended use context to determine whether it's fast enough or not.
[06:10] <coldboot> I know Core 2 Duo is 64-bit, but I'm not sure if it's the same arch as AMD64
[06:10] <allquixotic> it is.
[06:10] <allquixotic> !amd64 | coldboot
[06:10] <ubotu> coldboot: AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[06:11] <Dr_willis> coldboot,  theres no real need to use 64bit unless you have a lot of ram.. or other needs.
[06:11] <soundray> coldboot: yes, it is
[06:11] <leo_rockw> erUSUL, i guess it doesn't accept binary, but the binary is necessary to explain where all those 775 come from
[06:11] <coldboot> Dr_willis: And lots of stuff is broken, right?
[06:11] <david003> soundray: like getting the same zip file and getting times?
[06:11] <Dr_willis> coldboot,  so i hear.. :)
[06:11] <theron_work> I'm trying to do some work with xen and looking for a hand on an error message that I'm getting.  For some reason the loop module isn't loading, however, I'm not sure how to fix this, can anyone assist?
[06:11] <Dr_willis> coldboot,  i only use 32bit on all my 64bit machines.
[06:11] <soundray> david003: yes, if what you do for a living is zipping files.
[06:11] <Scunizi> hi all.. anyone run a server w/ a gui installed?  I'm running Dapper Lamp in a VM w/ xubuntu-desktop installed but I can't get the gui to start.. Any advice?
[06:11] <Derek_> Please help!! I am upgrading to Gutsy, and it is stuck installing gnome-applets.
[06:12] <soundray> Derek_: that's a question for #ubuntu+1
[06:12] <ikonia> Scunizi use the desktop version
[06:12] <allquixotic> coldboot: it's not that stuff is "broken", it's just that there is a huge existing codebase of Linux/i386 stuff that comes without source, or is extremely difficult to build for AMD64 and not available in binary form. To get all that working will be additional, unnecessary hassle if you have <= 4GB RAM.
[06:12] <Derek_> Disk has been churning for hours.  Is there anything I can do to save my system.
[06:12] <Dr_willis> Scunizi,  installed ubuntu-desktop package yet?
[06:12] <david003> soundray: i actually washed dishes for a while....now im without a job
[06:12] <b0lle> Hello!. I cant get my orinoco gold card (inserted into pcmcia) to work (no wireless extensions on lo,eth0 or irda0) but i get some info on Socket 0 when i try 'pccardctl ident'. any ideas?
[06:12] <Scunizi> Dr_willis, installed xubuntu-desktop
[06:12] <darkchr0n0s> anyone who can help me adjusting LCD brightness in my Laptop (Sony Vaio, VGN-CR14GN)
[06:12] <DopplerDeffect> Scunizi, did you try startx?
[06:12] <Dr_willis> Scunizi,  and what does 'startx' do for you then?
[06:12] <erUSUL> leo_rockw: well ithink that a user is only interested in how to use the thing and not in implementatio details
[06:12] <coldboot> allquixotic: How does it only benefit if you have more than 4gigs of ram?
[06:12] <coldboot> allquixotic: Or, mostly benefit, I suppose.
[06:13] <erUSUL> leo_rockw: the octal notation is only there to the ubergeeks like us ;)
[06:13] <mase> #ubuntu+1
[06:13] <Scunizi> Dr_willis, tried startx, nothing... tried sudo /etc/init.d/xfce4 start, nothing...
[06:13] <leo_rockw> erUSUL, i'm a user... i'm interested in the implementation details
[06:13] <allquixotic> coldboot: The address space limit of the 32-bit memory address space is 4GB
[06:13] <soundray> david003: then do something that will further your chances of finding a new one, instead of running benchmarks.
[06:13] <Dr_willis> coldboot,  64bit is needed to access ram over 4gb.
[06:13] <leo_rockw> erUSUL, he i've been actively using linux for only a month or so, haha
[06:13] <Dr_willis> Scunizi,  you should be getting some erorr/info if you use startx
[06:13] <Innomen> soundray: setup or root to the widnows pariton?
[06:13] <leo_rockw> erUSUL, i installed slackware 8 years ago but... lol
[06:13] <coldboot> allquixotic: Dr_willis: Any other benefits?
[06:13] <david003> soundray: lol
[06:13] <soundray> Innomen: no. What disk are you booting from?
[06:13] <Scunizi> Dr_willis, yep.. startx command not found.
[06:14] <Innomen> there is only 1 disk
[06:14] <titun> leo_rockw: oh u vomited so much info i took time to understand :)
[06:14] <allquixotic> coldboot: The size of pointers in 64-bit code is twice the size of pointers in a 32-bit address space, so the RAM requirements of processes will *increase* with 64-bit code. I don't call that a benefit, particularly considering many high-level languages are pointer-fat already
[06:14] <soundray> Innomen: is it called /dev/sda ?
[06:14] <Innomen> yea
[06:14] <leo_rockw> titun, lol sorry
[06:14] <Innomen> but grub dosent work that way
[06:14] <Innomen> hd0,0
[06:14] <leo_rockw> titun, just use the rwx notation in the meantime :-D
[06:14] <soundray> Innomen: then you should install grub to /dev/sda (not to sda1, sda2 etc)
[06:14] <darkchr0n0s> anyone who can help me adjusting LCD brightness in my Laptop (Sony Vaio, VGN-CR14GN)
[06:14] <Innomen> ok
[06:14] <titun> leo_rockw: now a days i am learning so much everyday since i have started using ubuntu, that was negligible in XP
[06:15] <Innomen> setup or root
[06:15] <Innomen> never mind
[06:15] <Innomen> i'll just brun an hour rebooting and trying the 4 possible combinations
[06:15] <coldboot> allquixotic: So what's the motivation to release 64-bit processors? Future memory usage increasing, and that's it?
[06:15] <leo_rockw> titun, this is the first time i use linux as my main OS. i didn't have a comp on my own before (i had to share w/ my family and there wasn't enough room for 2 OSs)
[06:15] <soundray> Innomen: you must have the "RecoveringUbuntu..." instructions by now. Follow those, and make sure you install to the MBR (master boot record), not to the partition.
[06:16] <b0lle> anyone able to help me with my wireless network? cant seem to get the wifi card going in my pcmcia slot
[06:16] <allquixotic> coldboot: The EM64T instruction set has several new processor features that will, eventually, amortize the initial performance loss. The other advantage is, yes, the eventual memory creep above 4GB will *require* 64-bit to use all your RAM.
[06:16] <Innomen> grub will not install to the windows parition
[06:16] <titun> leo_rockw: oh
[06:16] <leo_rockw> titun, but i used linux before, so i didn't have any trouble at all adapting lol
[06:16] <Innomen> oh i must?
[06:16] <sdrowkcab> how do you get compiz in gutsy gibbon?
[06:16] <Marker_> d
[06:16] <Pici> sdrowkcab: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions please.
[06:16] <leo_rockw> !gutsy > sdrowkcab
[06:16] <shearn89> sdrowkcab: its in there by default.
[06:16] <darkchr0n0s> anyone who can help me adjusting LCD brightness in my Laptop (Sony Vaio, VGN-CR14GN)
[06:17] <soundray> !wifi > b0lle, see the private message from ubotu. If you get stuck, come back and ask more specifically.
[06:17] <Innomen> well look at that
[06:17] <Innomen> windows hijacked the bootflag again
[06:17] <Innomen> shearn89: i dont prefix because i'm talking to everyone and anyone who can help
[06:18] <soundray> Innomen: it will stop doing that once you ask grub to take over the mbr
[06:18] <Innomen> soundray: and how is that done?
[06:18] <coldboot> darkchr0n0s: How is it adjusted in Windows?
[06:18] <coldboot> darkchr0n0s: By pure software?
[06:18] <soundray> !grub | Innomen
[06:18] <ubotu> Innomen: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:18] <Innomen> ...
[06:18] <Innomen> yhou dont know
[06:18] <Innomen> cool
[06:18] <soundray> Innomen: follow the "RecoveringUbuntu..." instructions
[06:18] <darkchr0n0s> coldboot : i can use the Fn keys... and i think i need drivers for that... so i can control using both Fn keys and the software
[06:19] <titun> leo_rockw: i have also seen a+x, is that equal to 775? or rwx rwx r-x?
[06:19] <Innomen> you have an aversion to telling me?
[06:19] <arun> Anyone here experience a lag when you open a menu? As in, it takes a couple seconds for the icons to appear?
[06:19] <soundray> Innomen: don't be obnoxious please. You're getting plenty of help.
[06:19] <coldboot> darkchr0n0s: You're sure though? My dell works without software using the Fn keys, even at the bios screen.
[06:19] <soundray> Innomen: what's the problem with reading the page ubotu points you to?
[06:19] <Innomen> no i'm not if i was i wouldent have spent 5 days here with the same problem
[06:19] <darkchr0n0s> coldboot : i'll check... rebootinh
[06:19] <Innomen> because i';ve read them/!!!
[06:19] <leo_rockw> titun, that means that all get x
[06:19] <Innomen> god
[06:20] <Innomen> you people keep treating me like i've never seen google
[06:20] <coldboot> darkchr0n0s: Just try it now.
[06:20] <coldboot> Does it work?
[06:20] <Innomen> or alternatly that i should alreayd know everything
[06:20] <Innomen> i'm in the middle ok?
[06:20] <leo_rockw> titun, you can put smth like g+r that means that group can read
[06:20] <Innomen> i need a HUMAN not a text file
[06:20] <Flats> I have an HP Officejet pro L7580 network printer. I set it up as an ipp://192.168.1.50 as a network printer on CUPS server. I'm using the officejet Pro L7500 driver which uses the hpijs recommended driver. When I print, it says printing but nothing makes it to the printer. any ideas?
[06:20] <leo_rockw> titun, or u+w
[06:20] <Scunizi> Innomen, try http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm.  much easier shorter steps that have worked for me many times.
[06:20] <soundray> Innomen: but you haven't paid attention, or understood my or others' instructions. Otherwise you'd have grub in your mbr by now.
[06:20] <titun> leo_rockw: ohkey, i did sudo chmod rwxrwxr-x PCLinuxOS_2007.iso, it says invalid mode
[06:20] <Innomen> Scunizi: havent read that one
[06:20] <Innomen> brb
[06:20] <titun> leo_rockw: do i need to have space in between?
[06:21] <Pici> Innomen: Calm down.  You need to tell us either what you don't understand or where the document differs from your situation.
[06:21] <arun> anyone?
[06:21] <shearn89> arun: ?
[06:21] <arun> Anyone here experience a lag when you open a menu? As in, it takes a couple seconds for the icons to appear?
[06:21] <ikonia> arun: no
[06:21] <shearn89> arun: do you have desktop effects enabled?
[06:21] <Innomen> i'm so tired of asking the same things
[06:22] <ikonia> Innomen whats up
[06:22] <leo_rockw> titun, you need a "-" modifier
[06:22] <Scunizi> Innomen, I keep a printed reference "just in case" I hose something.. One piece of advice it give is how to setup grub on all boot partiitons incase of a drive failure or other calamity.  It's expecially usefull if you have multiple Linux's installed.
[06:22] <Innomen> i dont need a step by step "this is a terminal, now type sudo grub"
[06:22] <soundray> Innomen: you're on the edge of my ignore list. If you keep doing the same thing, how do you expect to get different results?
[06:22] <ikonia> Innomen what do you want to do ?
[06:22] <leo_rockw> titun, like this: "chmod -rwxrwxr-x PCLinuxOsetc
[06:22] <arun> shearn89: no, no desktop effects
[06:22] <shearn89> arun: what's your cpu speed?
[06:23] <arun> ok, i just changed my theme to glossy, and there's no lag here. seems like it only happens with the human theme
[06:23] <leo_rockw> titun, just that - before the first r will do the difference
[06:23] <arun> I have a dual core processor
[06:23] <arun> 1gb ram
[06:23] <soundray> ikonia: he needs to put grub in the mbr, that's all. He's got it in the root partition, and a normal Windows mbr still.
[06:23] <Juhaz> chmod does not take that kind of format.
[06:23] <powerserve> newbie here... i used gparted to format the partition wherein my windows file runs and changed it to ext2 file type.. but now i have a folder that is "lost and found" what do i do?
[06:23] <shearn89> arun: hmm. probs just takes time to find the icons. it shouldn't break anything.
[06:24] <ikonia> soundray as I recall his grub device map compared to his bios boot order is borked so hd1 is actually his boot drive not hd0
[06:24] <titun> leo_rockw: it removed all permissions for everyone!! did i do anything wrong?
[06:24] <ricardo> hello my name is rikardo
[06:24] <Scunizi> Innomen, those giving advice are now confused... what are you after?  a gui tool?
[06:24] <soundray> powerserve: that's needed by the system, no need to worry about it.
[06:24] <Innomen> ikonia: i just want to know how to install grub to whatever drive boots by default since apprently its not hd(0,0) or hd(0), or how to install it to the mbr, or how to uninstall it and reinstall it :) depending on whos solution is correct for the root problem of, windows stopping the grub menu from coming up whenever it gets a chance to boot
[06:24] <leo_rockw> Juhaz, how is it?
[06:24] <Pelo> ikonia, that's not correct as far as I know
[06:24] <powerserve> i see thank you so much soundray
[06:24] <soundray> ikonia: even if he has only one disk?
[06:25] <ikonia>  one disk ? he had 3
[06:25] <darkchr0n0s> coldboot : nope doesn't work at grub screen, so i guess i need the drivers
[06:25] <Innomen> ikonia i pulled them because of the hell i put you though
[06:25] <Flats> I have an HP Officejet pro L7580 network printer. I set it up as an ipp://192.168.1.50 as a network printer on CUPS server. I'm using the officejet Pro L7500 driver which uses the hpijs recommended driver. When I print, it says printing but nothing makes it to the printer. any ideas?
[06:25] <Innomen> they are now no longer on the system
[06:25] <Innomen> and thier headers are trashed
[06:25] <soundray> ikonia: that's not what he told me. Whatever, I'm tired.
[06:25] <Juhaz> ug=rwx,o=rx
[06:25] <Innomen> i lost everything porobably but thats a whole other story
[06:25] <ikonia> Innomen so your running one disk and your doing what command for root and setup ?
[06:25] <ricardo> alguine que hable espaol
[06:25] <shearn89> ikonia: would he be able to use the alternate install disc on expert install mode to reinstall grub?
[06:25] <sten> Hello, does anyone know if "Joost" will be maken for linux too?
[06:25] <ricardo> alguien
[06:25] <Pici> !es | ricardo
[06:25] <ubotu> ricardo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:25] <ricardo> ok pici
[06:26] <Pelo> !es | ricardo
[06:26] <Innomen> grub, setup or root
[06:26] <Innomen> i'm not sure
[06:26] <Pici> sten: Ask the Joost people ;)  They said they were once, but I havent heard anything since.
[06:26] <Innomen> like i said about
[06:26] <Scunizi> Innomen, you have to use the command line to install grub to the MBR....
[06:26] <darkchr0n0s> anyone who can help me with adjusting brightness (LCD) on my sony vaio VGN-CR14GN laptop
[06:26] <sten> Okay :)
[06:26] <ikonia> Innomen ok - so you've got 1 disk, how many paritiotns
[06:26] <sten> Thanks
[06:26] <kevinO> how do i update grub?  sudo grub uptate?
[06:26] <Innomen> whatever to solve the core problem i'm having
[06:26] <coldboot> darkchr0n0s: Yeah, that sucks.
[06:26] <Innomen> 4
[06:26] <Innomen> windows, ubuntu, swap extended
[06:26] <ikonia> Innomen 4 partitions can you spell them out for me
[06:26] <coldboot> darkchr0n0s: It's pretty stupid to need drivers for something like brightness.
[06:26] <ikonia> ok
[06:27] <ricardo> como entro a ubunto -es
[06:27] <ikonia> Innomen: ok so "sudo grub" "root (hd0,1)" "setup (hd0)" "quit"
[06:27] <Innomen> want the hd / trabnslations? i'm getting good at fishing those out
[06:27] <shearn89> ricardo: "/ join #ubunt-es"
[06:27] <Pelo> ricardo,  escribar /join #ubuntu-es
[06:27] <shearn89> ^
[06:27] <powerserve> another question again.. now that i already have the entire hard drive relieved of windoze. although they are still partitioned, would ubuntu refer to them as a file drive or what? i apologize i am not a techy guy and a newbie with ubuntu
[06:27] <kevinO> hello how do i update grub?
[06:27] <Innomen> unrecognized command
[06:27] <ricardo> gracias pelo
[06:27] <Pelo> kevinO,  what do you mean update grub ?
[06:27] <Innomen> root(o01)
[06:28] <Innomen> grrr
[06:28] <ikonia> Innomen "sudo grub" unrecognised command ?
[06:28] <xSeaMonkeyx> Hallo
[06:28] <Innomen> rootr(0,1)
[06:28] <kevinO> pelo to update the grub menu
[06:28] <ikonia> Innomen hand on - thats wrong
[06:28] <ikonia> Innomen one step at a time
[06:28] <ikonia> Innomen: ready
[06:28] <Innomen> no i know sudo grub
[06:28] <shearn89> powerserve: when you run the installer, it should let you format partitions how you like, and they will show up like in windows.,
[06:28] <Innomen> i'm in it
[06:28] <xSeaMonkeyx> !de
[06:28] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:28] <Innomen> i did set up and it said unrecognizxed commaned
[06:28] <ikonia> Innomen so your in grub now
[06:28] <Innomen> yes
[06:28] <Pelo> kevinO,  you can manual edit the grub menu by editing the /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[06:28] <ikonia> Innomen ok so "root (hd0,1)"
[06:28] <new2ub> I've just installed ubuntu Feisty and my dvd and cd drives don't work.  I have eyesight problems and can't follow conversation in here so if someone could pm me it would help
[06:29] <Innomen> ...failed
[06:29] <darkchr0n0s> anyone who can help me with adjusting brightness (LCD) on my sony vaio VGN-CR14GN laptop
[06:29] <Innomen> un recognized command
[06:29] <kevinO> ok
[06:29] <kevinO> thanks
[06:29] <ikonia> Innomen what does your prompt say GRUB> ?
[06:29] <Innomen> i'm dumb
[06:29] <Innomen> space
[06:29] <Innomen> this screen is tiny
[06:29] <ricardo> "join #ubuntu -es "
[06:30] <Pelo> ricardo,   /join
[06:30] <Pici> ricardo: type this exactly:  /join #ubuntu-es
[06:30] <tingle> hi, will it be possible to install Ubunutu JEOS (Just Enough Operating Syste) once its released whitout vmware? so just directly on my pc?
[06:30] <Innomen> setup (0) = error 17 cannot mount partiiton
[06:30] <ikonia> Innomen: so you've done "root (hd0,1) setup (hd0)
[06:30] <Innomen> shoiuld i do 0,0?
[06:30] <Pici> tingle: We really don't know until we can get our hands on it.  afaik, nothing has been released even for testing.
[06:30] <ikonia> no (hd0)
[06:30] <Innomen> yes but setup failed
[06:30] <Innomen> hd0 cannot mount
[06:31] <Pelo> Innomen, I thought we fixed that grub problem yesterday ?
[06:31] <tingle> Pici: ok thanks for you awnser
[06:31] <ricardo> hola que onda, parece que no paso nada pelo
[06:31] <ikonia> Innomen are you doing "root (hd0,1)" then enter then "setup (hd0)"
[06:31] <Innomen> pelo: we did for a short time
[06:31] <darkchr0n0s> anyone who can help me with adjusting brightness (LCD) on my sony vaio VGN-CR14GN laptop
[06:31] <Innomen> ikonia: yes
[06:31] <ikonia> and its saying can't mount hd0 ?
[06:31] <Innomen> ikonia: root works, hd0 fails
[06:31] <Innomen> yes
[06:32] <leo_rockw> ricardo escribi lo que viene despues de los dos puntos: /join ubuntu-ar
[06:32] <Flats> I have an HP Officejet pro L7580 network printer. I set it up as an ipp://192.168.1.50 as a network printer on CUPS server. I'm using the officejet Pro L7500 driver which uses the hpijs recommended driver. When I print, it says printing but nothing makes it to the printer. any ideas?
[06:32] <ikonia> your doing it in brackets (hd0) like that
[06:32] <leo_rockw> ricardo escribi lo que viene despues de los dos puntos: /join #ubuntu-ar
[06:32] <Pelo> ricardo,  jo no abla espanol, ,  escribar /join #ubuntu-es exactemente
[06:32] <Innomen> yea :)
[06:32] <ikonia> Innomen: and you've only got 1 disk in the system
[06:32] <Innomen> yup
[06:32] <Innomen> sata
[06:32] <genii> Flats: Remove print queuing
[06:32] <Innomen> i'm sure thats a factor
[06:32] <ricardo> :/join #ubuntu - ar
[06:33] <Innomen> ubuntu apprently hates sata
[06:33] <powerserve> newbie here.. i got some questions here.. i reformatted my hard disk with the windoze partition side to ext2, that partition side is 40.3gb... the entire hard disk is 80gb.. when i clicked system monitor the available disk space is only 24gb.. the file that was recornized by ubuntu 64bit is just the partition with the linux right?
[06:33] <ikonia> Innomen can't do, if root (hd0,1) is working - its fine with your disk
[06:33] <leo_rockw> ricardo: /join #ubuntu-ar
[06:33] <Pelo> ricardo,   nada #ubuntu - es o ar    #ubuntu-es
[06:33] <Innomen> ok
[06:33] <darkchr0n0s> anyone who can help me with adjusting brightness (LCD) on my sony vaio VGN-CR14GN laptop, the Fn keys are not working
[06:33] <leo_rockw> ricardo, copia desde la barra / hasta ar
[06:33] <powerserve> do i need to do anthing to make this 40.3gb disk usable for ubuntu?
[06:34] <Flats> gen: remove the jobs or remove the whole queueing process?
[06:34] <leo_rockw> ricardo, sin dejar espacio entre ubuntu y ar
[06:34] <Pelo> powerserve, do you want to install to it or just use it for data ?
[06:34] <Innomen> ifgi could just lock the boot flag everything would be fine
[06:34] <ikonia> Innomen lock the boot flag ?
[06:34] <Innomen> if there were such an option i mean
[06:34] <Innomen> i boot into windows it steal the boot flag, if i livecd and set it back it works as it should
[06:34] <ikonia> Innomen: ok - lets step back and check some stuff
[06:34] <gea> hello, how can i update ubuntu 7.04 to ubuntu 7.10 with aptitude?
[06:35] <genii> Flats: If you have a few jobs in there, removing the first one may allow the others to go thru. but there is a weirdness with CUPS print queue and many printers.So the prudent thing is to print raw/direct with no queueing
[06:35] <ikonia> Innomen steal the boo flag ? not sure i follow
[06:35] <ljsmithx> Hello!
[06:35] <Pelo> !gutsy | genii
[06:35] <ubotu> genii: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[06:35] <powerserve> how about if both sir pelo? i apologize for my ignorance i am not a techy guy...
[06:35] <Innomen> you know in gnome where you can mange flags on a parition to tell it which one to boot from?
[06:35] <ricardo> hola
[06:35] <ljsmithx> Is there a way to run Linux apps under OS X?
[06:35] <Innomen> if it boots from the ubuntu install i get the menu
[06:35] <ikonia> Innomen ahhh, I never mess with that
[06:35] <ikonia> Innomen: ok - lets back out
[06:35] <genii> Pelo: ??
[06:35] <ikonia> exit out of the grub shell
[06:35] <ljsmithx> ???
[06:35] <Innomen> if i wlecte windows from that menu and let it boot it hijacks that flag and there after goes striaght into windows
[06:35] <Innomen> no menu
[06:35] <ljsmithx> Im guessing not
[06:36] <leo_rockw> ricardo, copia y pega desde la barra exactamente como lo pongo /join #ubuntu-ar
[06:36] <Innomen> oky
[06:36] <powerserve> Pelo how about if both sir pelo? i apologize for my ignorance i am not a techy guy...
[06:36] <ikonia> Innomen ok - so now do "sudo fdisk /dev/sda"
[06:36] <erUSUL> !es | ricardo
[06:36] <ubotu> ricardo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:36] <Scunizi> Innomen, shot in the dark here. but I had a prob w/ SATA too.  I found out that my primary boot drive in BIOS was not plugged into SATA connector 0 (or 1 depending on how you look at it). Once I changed it and reconfigured the bios, went through setting up grub again it worked flawlessly for dual boot., CC: ikonia
[06:36] <Pelo> powerserve, if you want to installl ubuntu on it , don'T worry the installer will take care of everything, if you want to use it for storage on a system with ubuntu already installed on it , you just have to put it in the comp and mount it  ( maybe you need to format it )
[06:36] <leo_rockw> erUSUL, he has no idea about irc commands. he doesn't know how to join...
[06:37] <Flats> genii Darn, 3 days of installing and reinstalling just to change from ipp to TCP/Socket and now everything is fine......
[06:37] <erUSUL> leo_rockw: vale, no pasa nada... ya se aclarar ;)
[06:37] <Scunizi> Flats, the school of hard knocks gets softer as time goes on. .. :)
[06:37] <Innomen> ikonia: ok done
[06:37] <ikonia> Innomen: ok so now type "print"
[06:38] <ikonia> Innomen: describe to me what you see
[06:38] <Flats> genii I hope so. My head rally hurts :)
[06:38] <Innomen> Scunizi: the bios on the dell gx260 ios garbage i have almot no options, its like a super nintendo
[06:38] <darkchr0n0s> anyone who can help me with adjusting brightness (LCD) on my sony vaio VGN-CR14GN laptop, the Fn keys are not working
[06:38] <Flats> Will I lose any functionalty or
[06:38] <ljsmithx> If I compile apps from source
[06:38] <Flats> anything like that
[06:38] <Innomen> sda 1 2 3 and 5
[06:38] <ricardo> gracias a quienes me ayudaron lo logreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[06:38] <genii> Flats: Well, if the removing first job works to print the others in queue, you could just for a workaround print always a dummy job first then remove it
[06:38] <ljsmithx> Where will the compiled apps end up?
[06:38] <Scunizi> Innomen, after changing the plug on the drive to the appropriate connector on the MB, all I did was re-setup the boot order of the drives..
[06:38] <ricardo> chao que esten bien
[06:39] <Innomen> linux, ntfs, extended and swap
[06:39] <leo_rockw> darkchr0n0s, in kde i have this app called power manager that allows me to do that through a slider, isn't there anything like that in ubuntu?
[06:39] <Dr_willis> ljsmithx,  depends on how they are configured
[06:39] <ikonia> Innomen ahhh ok - thats different to your layout
[06:39] <Innomen> Scunizi: right on
[06:39] <leo_rockw> darkchr0n0s, i mean gnome
[06:39] <ricardo> quix
[06:39] <Dr_willis> ljsmithx,  most ./configure scripts have a option to set the install dir.
[06:39] <Flats> no it didn't, I had to change from ipp to TCP/Socket connection. Then everything printed
[06:39] <ikonia> Innomen shall we try grub again please
[06:39] <Pelo> ljsmithx,  whrer they neeed to be the exec usuzly end up in /bin or /user/bin
[06:39] <BaKKaR> hallo, how can i recover my menu bar manually? lost them in a bad atembt to upgrade
[06:39] <ljsmithx> Dr, thanks
[06:39] <genii> Flats: no, the main difference with raw send is that the job goes immediately to the RAM or buffer of the printer
[06:39] <Innomen> you never have to say please to me, i'm yours :)
[06:39] <Innomen> inside grub
[06:40] <ljsmithx> Pelo, /usr/bin dont you mean? :)
[06:40] <darkchr0n0s> leo_rockw  : the gnome power manager has a slider thing, but it kinda has only 2 levels of brightness...
[06:40] <BaKKaR> attempt*
[06:40] <ikonia> Innomen: ok "root (hd0,0)" and then "setup (hd0)"
[06:40] <Pelo> ljsmithx, yeah, sorry , typo i guess
[06:40] <darkchr0n0s> leo_rockw : the slider is from 0-100% but the minimum bightness i get is near 32%
[06:40] <ljsmithx> Compiling is soo easy, now that I know how
[06:40] <darkchr0n0s> leo_rockw : but it
[06:40] <genii> Flats: But the formatting and driver, etc etc all stay same. just no queueing
[06:40] <Innomen> done
[06:40] <darkchr0n0s> leo_rockw : but it
[06:40] <Innomen> no errors
[06:40] <ikonia> Innomen thats more like it
[06:40] <BaKKaR> i remember something like gconfig or gmenu-config. can someone elp me to remember or know my way?
[06:40] <darkchr0n0s> leo_rockw : but it's still too bright
[06:40] <ikonia> Innomen you shoud be good to go
[06:40] <leo_rockw> darkchr0n0s, oh, i c... it isn't like that on the kde one...
[06:40] <ljsmithx> ./configure
[06:41] <Innomen> sweet testing
[06:41] <darkchr0n0s> leo_rockw : i'll try kde also :S
[06:41] <ljsmithx> Ive got KDE running along side with Aqua
[06:41] <ljsmithx> :D
[06:41] <Pelo> BaKKaR,  gconf-editor ?
[06:41] <BaKKaR> Pelo: hope that is
[06:42] <Flats> genii As long as it prints, thats fine with me
[06:43] <ikonia> Innomen: testing ?
[06:43] <genii> Flats: I'll be around for another 4-5 hours today if you tinker and need help etc
[06:43] <new2ub> what's the best inkjet printers to use with linux systems?
[06:43] <Innomen> seeing if the problem recurs
[06:43] <Flats> cool ,thanks
[06:43] <Innomen> Ha!
[06:43] <Goetmetnd> It seems I burned my ubuntu CD bad... how can I check if I *downloaded* the ISO image correctly ?
[06:43] <Goetmetnd> is there some way?
[06:43] <ikonia> Innomen yes/no ?
[06:43] <Pelo> new2ub, one that says built for linux right on the box
[06:43] <Innomen> Excellant
[06:43] <Innomen> thank you
[06:43] <ikonia> no problem
[06:43] <ubuntu666> Hello, I just installed ubuntu and now it says Grub loading, please wait, error 17
[06:43] <genii> Pelo: Heh :)
[06:44] <ikonia> glad your working
[06:44] <Pelo> ubuntu666, how many hdd on your computer ?
[06:44] <Scunizi> Innomen, did you switch the cables to make it work or was it something else that ikonia fixed? I'm multitasking so I missed something.
[06:44] <Innomen> ikonia fixed it
[06:44] <mady> salut
[06:44] <Innomen> she had me print some bizarre file
[06:44] <genii> new2ub: There is a printer compatability list you can check against ones you are thinking of buying
[06:44] <Innomen> i described it in idiot speak
[06:44] <Innomen> and she translated that into a working solution
[06:44] <mady> bonsoir le xchat francai svp
[06:44] <Innomen> it was epic
[06:44] <furious> hey i have a problem. just installed ubuntu 7.04 and im trying to install java. used "sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-fonts" and now in the terminal theres some agreements i have to agree to. only thing thou is that i cant press the "<OK>" button. anyone know why ?
[06:45] <Innomen> or he
[06:45] <ikonia> he
[06:45] <Innomen> dont know its gender
[06:45] <Scunizi> Innomen, great.. glad to hear it's now working.
[06:45] <Innomen> sorry man
[06:45] <ikonia> ha ha , its
[06:45] <ikonia> not a problem
[06:45] <new2ub> genii; where is the list
[06:45] <Pelo> furious, use the tab , arrors , and enter keys
[06:45] <Innomen> do they pay you for this?
[06:45] <soothsayer> Suddenly I can no longer ssh into my Ubuntu server. ssh immediately exists with 'connection to xxx closed by remote host'; 'connection to xxx closed'. auth.log last line says 'session opened for user ....'. Started sshd with debug mode. Can't see anything relevant.
[06:45] <furious> ok
[06:45] <furious> thx Pelo
[06:45] <schnurli007> hy
[06:45] <BaKKaR> can't find how to enable the toolbar or the menu bar, i have found "default_show_menubar" and it is checked tho nothing on the desktop :(
[06:45] <schnurli007> wohooooo
[06:45] <ikonia> Innomen who ?
[06:45] <genii> new2ub: Looking it up now for you
[06:46] <new2ub> ty
[06:46] <Scunizi> Innomen, everyone here is a user and offering free help.. nobody get's paid
[06:46] <Innomen> ikonia: sorry, you
[06:46] <Elephantman> hi
[06:46] <Pelo> BaKKaR,   /apps/panel/ ....
[06:46] <ikonia> Innomen: nah, I'm not paid to be here
[06:46] <Innomen> you bloody well should be
[06:46] <ubuntu666> I just installed Ubuntu, and the first time after I rebooted, the grub menu loaded fine.. Under other operating systems, Vista was shown twice (One of them was the Sony Vaio Recovery Centre), I choose one of them and had to cancel recovery. Now after rebooting, I get a grub error 17. Please help
[06:46] <Innomen> ikonia: you help people at an absurd rate
[06:46] <ikonia> Innomen no problem, happy to help
[06:46] <UberPsyX> help, my beryls screwed up, desktop 1 is fine but the other 3 are invisible and doesnt refresh properly, it also has items on the taskbar that are on all desktops, ive tried reinstalling and it didnt work, it started when i added workspace-switcher to my panel
[06:46] <Scunizi> Innomen, as you learn the system and how to do things, "tag.. you're it!"  It'll be your turn to return the favor to someone else.  :)
[06:46] <Elephantman> I'm runing Gutsy on an imac intel here, seems like the sound aint working (the soundcard is integrated to the intel motherboard). how can I diagnose/solve this issue ?
[06:47] <echelon3> hey i need to extract .rar files with ubuntu, how can i achieve this
[06:47] <Innomen> oh i will
[06:47] <Pelo> ubuntu666, this is a fresh install of ubuntu ?  just install over it
[06:47] <Innomen> you guys get to hold my hand for the next 10 years
[06:47] <genii> new2ub: http://openprinting.org/printer_list.cgi  has a pretty comprehensive search, or you can browse the whole list
[06:47] <vince_> hi
[06:47] <soothsayer> echelon3: Install unrar from multiverse
[06:47] <Pelo> echelon3,   sudo apt-get install unrar  then right click the file and extract
[06:47] <new2ub> genii; ty very much
[06:47] <ubuntu666> Pelo: Yeah its a fresh install
[06:47] <npnuf1>  I am unable to connect to my jabber account with ssl.  I had installed gaim-encryption but no use.  Kopete is working well.  What could be wrong.
[06:48] <UberPsyX> elephantman, i saw a guide for that, just google intel sound cards and gutsy
[06:48] <vince_> how do I list processes that use my soundcard?
[06:48] <genii> new2ub: np
[06:48] <ignoto> ooo
[06:48] <Innomen> bbl in about an hour
[06:48] <Scunizi> ikonia, I"m installing vmware tools in my vm of DApper server w/ xubuntu-desktop and have installed build-essential. What do I install for C header files?
[06:49] <vince_> I want to free my audio card from a process which block it but I don't know what it is, is there a solution?
[06:49] <ikonia> Scunizi oooh normally glibc headers - not kernel headers, as I recall. However I think vmware is in the ubuntu repo's so you may find it easier to just install from there
[06:49] <yetifoot> vince_, it may be lsof /dev/audio or /dev/dsp
[06:49] <soothsayer> vince_: I had the same problem. I also didn't know how to fix it.
[06:49] <erUSUL> !vmware | Scunizi
[06:49] <ubotu> Scunizi: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[06:49] <Andeh> Hi
[06:49] <soothsayer> vince_: You can try lsof /dev/snd/*
[06:50] <Andeh> What do I need to open CBR files?
[06:50] <vince_> soothsayer / yetifoot, it dont work
[06:50] <UberPsyX> help, my beryls screwed up, desktop 1 is fine but the other 3 are invisible and doesnt refresh properly, it also has items on the taskbar that are on all desktops, ive tried reinstalling and it didnt work, it started when i added workspace-switcher to my panel
[06:50] <soothsayer> vince_: What doesn't work?
[06:50] <echelon3> regards
[06:50] <yetifoot> vince_, the one soothsayer just did /dev/snd/* works here
[06:50] <Andeh> Apparently winrar can open CBR files but I'm not going to use their stoopid CLI version for linux.
[06:50] <vince_> soothsayer, it dont display anything
[06:50] <Scunizi> ikonia, I've installed the VMWare server. repos for Dapper don't have the right version..
[06:50] <schlumpf> hi i installed a programm as root after doing so i rememberd that one should not do that well i did is there anyway to change. the programm is a addon to the game warcarft3 running throu wine
[06:50] <Pelo> Andeh, google for the native app and tell us what it is so we can suggest a replacement
[06:50] <Egonis> How do I add MP3 support to Rhythmbox?
[06:51] <soothsayer> !mp3 | Egonis
[06:51] <ubotu> Egonis: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:51] <maxagaz> I have a big text file (8MB), which the command 'file' recognize as 'data', and whatever I do, It can't recognize it as UTF8 text file, so that when I execute commands like 'cat myfile.txt | grep -B 10 bar', it returns the whole content of the file
[06:51] <Andeh> Pelo: Apparently adobe reader can open them too
[06:51] <maxagaz> what should I do ?
[06:51] <Andeh> Pelo: I'm about to download half a gig of them, so just to make sure I can open them
[06:51] <Pelo> Andeh, are those  comic book ?   check in add/remove for comic there are a couple of readers
[06:51] <Andeh> Ah yes
[06:51] <Andeh> okay
[06:51] <Andeh> thanks ;D
[06:51] <soothsayer> vince_: Then nothing is opening those files. I think it should at least show mixer_app.
[06:52] <BaKKaR> ok looks i am forced to upgrade
[06:52] <BaKKaR> will do it
[06:52] <vince_> soothsayer, there is at least my mp3 player which is currently playing
[06:52] <vince_> and it dont display it
[06:52] <soothsayer> vince_: Try sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[06:52] <BaKKaR> thank Pelo for your help
[06:52] <UberPsyX> Pelo, can you help with my beryl problem, its really awkward and i cant find anything that could help
[06:52] <Andeh> Pelo: Thanks :D bye
[06:52] <BaKKaR> bye
[06:52] <soothsayer> vince_: I have rhythmbox open (not playing) and it shows it in lsof /dev/snd/*
[06:52] <Pelo> UberPsyX,  for beryl stuff ask in #beryl #ubuntu-effects or #compiz-fusion
[06:53] <UberPsyX> Pelo, ok thanks
[06:53] <vince_> soothsayer, the point is that I actually know what program is annoying me, but i would like to be able to do it in case I didn't know
[06:53] <vince_> ok soothsayer, you got me
[06:53] <vince_> it works :)
[06:54] <yetifoot> works here too, is listing all the audio programs i'm using
[06:54] <vince_> forgot the /* , i thought /dev/snd was a "file"
[06:54] <yetifoot> i do get a message before it gives it:
[06:54] <yetifoot> lsof /dev/snd/*
[06:54] <yetifoot> lsof: WARNING: can't stat() ext3 file system /dev/.static/dev
[06:54] <Scunizi> What's the install file name for glibc headers
[06:54] <Pelo> Scunizi, libglibc I think
[06:56] <genii> Hmm it got unusually quiet in here :)
[06:56] <yetifoot> isn't glibc headers in libc6-dev ?
[06:56] <na> Does anyone know how to make the "special" buttons on an IBM t40 work with ubuntu?? like the page back and page forward by the arrow keys.
[06:56] <despotic> Hello all. I'm trying to get my sound to work here. The onboard nForce2 is recognized but I'm not getting any sound. When I test the playback I get an error.
[06:56] <Pelo> genii, shssss, enjoy the quiet
[06:56] <Pici> na: Have you looked on http://thinkiwiki.org ?
[06:57] <Pelo> !sound | despotic
[06:57] <ubotu> despotic: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:57] <yetifoot> despotic, you may be having something blocking the audio
[06:57] <genii> Pelo: Too late now LOL
[06:57] <na> Pici,  No, ill take a look, see if I can find anything there..thanks
[06:57] <despotic> I thought that it might be because my speakers are plugged in to the optical connector, but even if that were the case, I should get an error when outputting sound right?
[06:58] <despotic> I've gone through all of these web based tutorials for setting up the sound, my brain just hurts right now :S
[06:58] <Pelo> despotic, I don'Tthink so,  the drivers don'T realy care if the sounds get's out or not,  they just send the signal to the card
[06:59] <despotic> when I double click the volume control, i get "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found"
[06:59] <sdrowkcab> where do i get help with compiz?
[06:59] <despotic> would remaking the kernel cause ubuntu to reconfigure the sound automatically?
[06:59] <Pelo> despotic,  right click the volume icon,  properties,  select a different device
[06:59] <yetifoot> sdrowkcab, #compiz ?
[07:00] <Pelo> sdouble,  ask in #ubuntu-desktop or #compiz-fussion
[07:00] <despotic> right click + preferences = no response :(
[07:00] <Pelo> despotic, check in menu < system > admin > users , make sure you have permission to use sound device
[07:00] <despotic> in the sound settings window, I get an error if I test alsa, if I test "automatic" the sound window closes.
[07:01] <genii> na: Perhaps you might find something useful here: http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/walter/geek/linux-t40.html#buttons
[07:01] <Pelo> !sound | despotic  review this
[07:01] <ubotu> despotic  review this: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:01] <na> thanks
[07:02] <ikxdf> ciao
[07:02] <SirronTM> Right, I need an MSN messenger clone. One that's not aMSN OR Emesene OR Pidgin. They're all rubbish  anybody got a good one they can recommend please?
[07:02] <damjan> Why my gdm is not loading?
[07:02] <ikxdf> italiani?
[07:02] <Pelo> SirronTM, google
[07:02] <Pelo> !it | ikxdf
[07:02] <ubotu> ikxdf: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[07:02] <yetifoot> SirronTM, only other one i know is kopete, but that is kde so you may end up with a lot of stuff you don't want
[07:03] <Pelo> damjan, we need a little more
[07:03] <vince_> SirronTM, I use gaim.
[07:03] <ikxdf> e come lo trovo?
[07:03] <vince_> it doesn't work with mic / video though
[07:03] <despotic> thanks ubotu. I'm gonna go through these pages to see if I've missed anything. The error I get when I click test on Alsa Playback is "audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=music: Could not open resource for writing."
[07:03] <SirronTM> I don't really go for gaim/pidgin, it's all over the place.
[07:03] <Pelo> ikxdf,   /join #ubuntu-it
[07:03] <vince_> oh, sorry, misread what you said.
[07:04] <ikxdf> thanks pelo
[07:04] <Pelo> !thanks | despotic
[07:04] <SirronTM> it's like, Rubick's Interface.
[07:04] <ubotu> despotic: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[07:04] <despotic> I just checked the box for "audio" in the user settings (it was unchecked) and it didn't help.
[07:04] <ikxdf> pelo u are italian?
[07:04] <despotic> ;) Thanks Pelo
[07:04] <Pelo> despotic, that's a start anyway
[07:04] <Pelo> ikxdf, no
[07:04] <ikxdf> but u talk italian...
[07:05] <Pelo> ikxdf,  no I don'T  I can just tell more or less what the question is from common word roots
[07:06] <profanephobia> is there a way to tunnel opera through a ssh connection like you can with socks and firefox
[07:06] <damjan> the beryl failed to load, so I remove the support for 3d acc. for nvidia, then I reconf. the xorg with dpkg, and then I start gdm and then the cursor was on the center, then blank, then still in the center, but the screen was like have more gamma or something, so now I'm doomed to use kdm, which is slow on my pc, so what can I do to enable gdm again and use beryl?
[07:06] <Pelo> profanephobia, try asking in #opera if there is such a channel
[07:06] <titun> can anyone suggest a software to make webpage layouts/prototypes?
[07:06] <damjan> bluefish
[07:06] <profanephobia> Pelo, i did...no one home : )
[07:07] <SirronTM> o.O I find it hard to believe that given how good OpenOffice, GIMP etc. are, there still isn't a decent instant messenger, that supports at least HALF of Windows's Live Messenger's features.
[07:07] <Pelo> profanephobia, try the opera website I'm sure they have a forum a faq or an irc channel listyed
[07:07] <Pelo> listed
[07:07] <ssb> hi! I've installed 7.10 beta and have a feeling that everything is much slower than it should, especially  eog and ghoststcript.  The question is: Are beta packages compiled with debugging or something else that makes them run slowly... or should I just get a better box ?
[07:07] <Pelo> damjan, try asking in #beryl
[07:07] <damjan> no the gdm is not loading
[07:07] <Pelo> ssb, ask in #ubuntu+1   gutsy isn'T official yet
[07:08] <ssb> Pelo, thanks
[07:08] <Pelo> damjan,  gdm start
[07:08] <titun> damjan: no bulefish is helpful for coding.... i need something which can help me create a basic layout may be in a graphics format ,easily and fast..GIMP is not an option
[07:08] <Heman> Howcome gaim doesn't log me into my messenger account there are no login/out buttons...
[07:08] <dmulligan> Hi.  Is this the best place to ask about Gutsy?
[07:08] <Pelo> dmulligan,  #ubuntu+1
[07:08] <damjan> Pelo the cursor is on the center of the screen and nothing else
[07:09] <dmulligan> Pelo Thanks
[07:09] <Pelo> damjan, I hae no idea which is why I am sugesting you ask in #beryl , they probably know how to fix the problem since it was part of a removal of beryl
[07:09] <damjan> Pelo, thanks
[07:11] <Pelo> ok , all the problems with Feisty have been solved, everyone report to #ubuntu+1 for gutsy trainning
[07:13] <WaltzingAlong> SirronTM: your services have been enlisted to create the solution you seek
[07:13] <damjan> Pelo, 4 years I'm wondering about one question for KDE, I know that is K- Desktop environment, but what is K in the name?
[07:14] <SirronTM> WaltzingAlong: if you mean "make it yourself, that's open source works!! ^^" then by god I shall.
[07:14] <Pelo> damjan,  no idea , try searching wikipedia for kde it's probably explained
[07:14] <WaltzingAlong> damjan: it meant cool desktop environment
[07:14] <damjan> oh
[07:14] <damjan> really?
[07:14] <rothchild> damjan I believe it meant Kool but they dropped it
[07:15] <damjan> ok
[07:15] <beni> heyho :) I need someone from inside the US to buy a RC Helicopter at thinkgeek.com for me and send it to me, Germany =)
[07:15] <damjan> thanks
[07:15] <WaltzingAlong> damjan: yeah cool with a k but simplified to just K
[07:15] <Al> hoaaa
[07:15] <Al> holaaaaa
[07:15] <Al> helloooo
[07:15] <Al> alguien estap
[07:15] <stdin> Al: #ubuntu-es
[07:15] <beni> heyho :) I need someone from inside the US to buy a RC Helicopter at thinkgeek.com for me and send it to me, Germany =)
[07:15] <WaltzingAlong> SirronTM: which specific items of windows live messenger do you want in another im client?
[07:15] <dgjones> !offtopic | beni
[07:15] <ubotu> beni: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:16] <WaltzingAlong> beni: thanks we got it. wrong channel
[07:16] <beni> ok sorry guys didnt want to annoy you :)
[07:16] <beni> spammed a bit, though
[07:16] <WaltzingAlong> !info openvpn
[07:16] <ubotu> openvpn: Virtual Private Network daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.9-5 (feisty), package size 328 kB, installed size 988 kB
[07:17] <Muphasa> hello
[07:17] <SirronTM> WaltzingAlong: Multi-user IM, file transfer, optional webcam support, customisability and good plugin support
[07:17] <SirronTM> WaltzingAlong: oh yeah, and it's important that it's not written in say, TCL 
[07:17] <zeroflag> ubuntu just "lost" 60GB of files that I moved accidently to the trash bin and couldn't restore because the drive was full... how do I get my stuff back?
[07:18] <WaltzingAlong> SirronTM: which have you tried?
[07:18] <Pelo> zeroflag, is it still in the ~/.Trash folder ?
[07:18] <zeroflag> hmm.
[07:18] <zeroflag> nice.
[07:18] <zeroflag> for some reason it wasn't there for a minute, now it's back... oO
[07:18] <ubuntu666> I have 2GB of RAM. Why does it say "Failed to allocate memory resource" before Ubuntu loads?
[07:19] <SirronTM> WaltzingAlong: aMSN, Gaim, Pidgin, Kopete, Emesene, maybe more
[07:19] <WaltzingAlong> SirronTM: i use kopete and have used the webcam and file transfers with it. what do you mean by multi-user im?
[07:19] <Pelo> ubuntu666, do a forum search for the error msg   www.ubuntuforums.org
[07:20] <SirronTM> WaltzingAlong: just chats with more than two people
[07:20] <ipx> Does nvidia have good drivers for GFX? Im buying a laptop with nvidia geforce 8600M GT and want to know how it works on linux. Is intel much better?
[07:20] <beni> nvidia is n1 very good
[07:20] <ubuntu666> ipx: I have that same card. I just installed Ubuntu a minute ago.
[07:21] <WaltzingAlong> SirronTM: i think it does that too. ok good luck
[07:21] <ipx> ubuntu666: cool!
[07:21] <SirronTM> WaltzingAlong: Well it refuses to connect ;)
[07:21] <ipx> ubuntu666: could you give me any updates if you get any issues?
[07:21] <Pelo> ipx,  things are on the move but nvidia still doesn'T hve FOSS drivers as far as I know
[07:21] <MuNzE> place windows plugin do not working in gutsy
[07:21] <ipx> Pelo: what does that mean to the end-user?
[07:21] <Pelo> ubuntu666, and you are having memory allocation problems
[07:21] <ubuntu666> ipx: Will do. Which laptop are you buying?
[07:21] <mikkael>  i manually installed a webcam driver, since that my system needs 10 minutes to boot, spits out a lot of error messages. how do i remove that damn thing ? at the moment i just blacklisted it
[07:22] <VixyFox> Just a quick question for everyone. If I install Fiesty 7.04 when 7.10 comes out is it easy to upgrade? Or will I have to do a fresh install?
[07:22] <ipx> ubuntu666: Probably a Znote 6324W
[07:22] <ipx> But not sure yet though
[07:22] <MuNzE> wrong chanel :)
[07:22] <ipx> but probably a znote anyways with that gfx-card
[07:22] <Pelo> I take it to mean avoid nvidia cards for the time being unless you know how to get around
[07:22] <stdin> VixyFox: you can upgrade when it comes out
[07:22] <VixyFox> stdin: Okay, thank you ^_^
[07:22] <bonzai> .
[07:22] <sys|true> O_o
[07:22] <notme> !respitories
[07:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about respitories - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:22] <notme> O_O
[07:23] <Pelo> ubuntu666,  assuming this might be related ,   menu > system > admin> restricted drivers  see if anyting in there is needed for you
[07:23] <erUSUL> !repos
[07:23] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[07:23] <ubuntu666> Pelo: It said my hardware does not need any restricted drivers.
[07:24] <Pelo> so I guess you error msg is not related to that
[07:24] <ubuntu666> Which is file for grub where the OS's are listed?
[07:24] <ubuntu666> I need to remove one of the entries
[07:24] <erUSUL> ubuntu666: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:24] <ipx> ubuntu666: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:24] <ipx> omg
[07:24] <Pelo> ubuntu666, don'T remove,  comment out
[07:24] <ipx> :)
[07:25] <Ady> guys, i got compiz fusion... i've screwed up all settings... can any1 tell how to correct it...
[07:26] <liam> I have a problem with Java. Specifically, I don't have a 'java' command
[07:26] <Pelo> Ady,  the ppl in #compiz-fusion probably can
[07:26] <Zeldor> why do so much people hanging in this channle?
[07:26] <ubuntu666> My windows vista shows up twice on the list but of them is the Sony Vaio Recovery Centre... I'm not sure which one it is in grub.. One says root (hd0,0) and the other is root (hd0,1) ... Any idea which of the two I should comment out? The last time I chose the wrong one while booting, and it screwed up grub..
[07:26] <Pelo> liam, why would you have a java command ?
[07:27] <Pelo> Zeldor, cause we're cool
[07:27] <Ady> i'm sorry... but i've reached this window in a very tough way...
[07:27] <liam> I wan't to run a java application, Freeguide.
[07:27] <Zeldor> lol Pelo ok i wanna be cool too :D
[07:27] <Pelo> Ady, just type /join #compiz-fusion
[07:27] <stdin> liam: have you installed java?
[07:27] <Pelo> Zeldor, sorry you need to pass a test first
[07:28] <Zeldor> a test?
[07:28] <liam> I have java applets working, and I have $sudo apt-get install j2re1.4
[07:28] <liam> but there doesn't appear to be a java binary
[07:28] <Pelo> Zeldor,  you need tatoos, peircings,  to smoke to have random sex with ramdom strangers, cut classes,  drink while underage,   you know the usual cool stuff
[07:28] <jeb> hi
[07:28] <Pici> !java | liam
[07:28] <ubotu> liam: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[07:29] <Zeldor> ok i'm too jung for beeing cool
[07:29] <jeb> I'm trying to install ubuntu on an older laptop (some might already know ;-) )I now managed to get a minimal ubuntu started on the laptop
[07:29] <jeb> i installed ubuntu on a vm and copied to files onto the harddrive
[07:29] <Pelo> Zeldor,  then you can get started by rolling your eyes at your parents :-)
[07:29] <jeb> but now, there are some little problems
[07:30] <jeb> is there a possibility to reinstall or reconfigure all installed pakcages?
[07:30] <stdin> liam: the java package is "sun-java6-jre" you then need to do "sudo update-alternatives --config java"
[07:30] <Pelo> jeb, for an older comp consider using xubuntu , it's a bit lighter
[07:30] <jeb> Pelo: the problem was till now installing, not using
[07:31] <jeb> but thx for the tip
[07:31] <Pelo> jeb,  not sure what you mean by  reconfiguring the installed packages
[07:31] <liam> ah, thank you stdin. i had the package installed but not the update-alternatives
[07:31] <liam> many thanks!
[07:31] <Flats> Just a quick question, not necessarily for Ubuntu for all Linux. Has anyone gotten any verizon wireless PC adapter to work with Linux?
[07:31] <jeb> Pelo: e.g. I had to configure grub by myself, well, this isn't a problem. but the network card isn't recognised too
[07:32] <jeb> i think it's because I copied the files of an vm installation without network card
[07:32] <Pelo> Flats, I think you should look in the forum for an answer to taht quesiton  www.ubuntuforums.org
[07:32] <Davy_Jones> i wanna know how much of disk space my current directory is taken.. what's the command?
[07:32] <jeb> and therfore i think reinstalling/configureing the packages might solve the problem
[07:32] <Flats> OK, Just wondering if anyone here has it working but I'll check
[07:32] <Dr_willis> Davy_Jones,  du
[07:32] <Pelo> jeb, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-minimal maybe
[07:33] <Davy_Jones> thanks
[07:33] <genii> jeb: to reconfigure most things, the usual is to: sudo dpkg --reconfigure <packagename> like xserver-xorg or such.
[07:33] <jeb> genii: want to reconfigure the whole system
[07:34] <jeb> Pelo: won't it tell me that everything is already up-to-date?
[07:34] <genii> jeb: I'm not sure if --reconfigure will take a wildcard but you could try
[07:34] <Pelo> jeb,  if something is missing it will reinstall it
[07:34] <biernot_> #channels
[07:34] <jeb> i'll have a look....
[07:34] <Muphasa> I am coming up with Zubuntu
[07:34] <erUSUL> genii: -a for all pending packages
[07:34] <Pelo> Muphasa,  make sure you create your own support channel
[07:35] <Muphasa> Pelo who ru
[07:35] <Pelo> just me
[07:35] <Muphasa> ok
[07:35] <Muphasa> I need ur help
[07:36] <genii> erUSUL for it to reconfigure pending packages he would need to set package states for everything to pending/half installed or such
[07:36] <Pelo> !ask | Muphasa
[07:36] <ubotu> Muphasa: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:37] <erUSUL> genii: i see
[07:37] <jeb> Pelo: it does nothing, as guessed
[07:37] <Pelo> jeb was worth a try
[07:37] <jeb> the locales aren't set right, too
[07:38] <jeb> where do I configure them?
[07:38] <Pelo> jeb menu > system > admin > network ?
[07:38] <genii> jeb: For kicks and curiosity perhaps try: sudo dpkg --reconfigure *
[07:39] <hwilde> Is there a bug preventing association to WEP access points with mixed upper and lowercase keys?
[07:39] <generalsnus> Everytime i try to install ubuntu on my comp i get grub err 21.. my setup: "sda" installed with winxp(SATA drive)   "sdb" here i want to install *nix on partition 2..hd1,2..this is a IDE drive. What can i do to ensure that grub works?
[07:39] <leku> what package is 'pidl' part of?
[07:39] <{Stinger}> bye
[07:39] <jeb> genii: * is nost installed ;)
[07:39] <{Stinger}> see ya next time ;] 
[07:39] <Pelo> generalsnus, two hdd ? xp on one ubu on the other ?
[07:39] <jeb> Pelo: no X11 yet
[07:39] <generalsnus> ye
[07:40] <UbuntNub> thanks guys, I don't know if it was just the restart or what, but my sound is working!:D
[07:40] <jeb> only ubuntu-minimal or standard, dunno
[07:40] <UbuntNub> not in Amarok though :S any ideas?
[07:40] <generalsnus> Pelo: Yes
[07:40] <Pelo> generalsnus,  just setup your bios to boot from the ubuntu hdd and donT' mess with the grub settings
[07:40] <UbuntNub> Amarok directed me to a 1018 binary file. Is that a codec perhaps?
[07:40] <Pelo> generalsnus,  I mean set the bios to boot the ubuntyuhdd before you install ubuntu
[07:41] <bmt2> hello to all
[07:41] <bmt2> is there a way to 'RDP' into a linux box thru windoze
[07:41] <Pelo> UbuntNub, #amarok ppl might know
[07:41] <generalsnus> Pelo: yeah i tried that.. still got the err 21..
[07:41] <UbuntNub> sweet
[07:41] <bmt2> i usually RDP into my windoze box from my office...so i want to know if there is a way to RDP from from my windoze box into a linux box
[07:41] <generalsnus> Pelo: hm.. set bios to boot from linux disk before install?
[07:41] <bmt2> once i RDP from the office
[07:42] <ubuntu666> I don't think I set the mounts correctly.. My C drive (windows) is not showing up under Computer.. Can someone help me fix this?
[07:42] <cl3ns> bmt2: vnc
[07:42] <Vlet> bmt2: http://www.movingtofreedom.org/2007/02/16/howto-remote-desktop-with-vnc-in-ubuntu-edgy-gnu-linux/
[07:42] <zeroflag> I just started aptitude and it had some packages to finish so I hit g twice... now it's removing gdm and everything remotely related to it...
[07:42] <Pelo> generalsnus, yes,  grub is in two parts,  phase 1 installs on the boot hdd, phase 2 in the /boot folder of the ubuntu partition
[07:42] <zeroflag> oh...
[07:42] <zeroflag> there goes cupsd...
[07:42] <zeroflag> mono...
[07:43] <zeroflag> ACPI gone...
[07:43] <zeroflag> shutting down network...
[07:43] <bmt2> Vlet: thanks
[07:43] <sdrowkcab> how do use the cube effect with compiz?
[07:43] <zeroflag> err??!??!
[07:43] <zeroflag> I'm connected through SSH!
[07:43] <hwilde> Is there a bug preventing association to WEP access points with mixed upper and lowercase keys?
[07:43] <zeroflag> what the fuck is aptitude doing?!?
[07:43] <hwilde> Is there a bug preventing association to WEP access points with mixed upper and lowercase keys?
[07:43] <zeroflag> someone?
[07:43] <zeroflag> anyone?
[07:43] <hwilde> !language | ZeroA4
[07:43] <ubotu> ZeroA4: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:43] <hwilde> !language | zeroflag
[07:43] <ubotu> zeroflag: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:43] <bmt2> and thanks to other individual...i can't scroll up to get your name
[07:43] <bmt2> sorry
[07:44] <Pelo> generalsnus,  there is also a not that error 22 relates to the bios not finding the partition listed, or the other eay around, I think I heard that some sata drives need to be set to  legacy support in the bios for ubuntu to recognise them
[07:44] <zeroflag> hwilde: well, I'll watch my language once aptitude stops removing my entire system...
[07:44] <hwilde> zeroflag, aptitude does what you told it to do.
[07:44] <zeroflag> I hit G twice to resolve conflicts...
[07:44] <zeroflag> >_<
[07:44] <generalsnus> Pelo: yeah.. but when i used a live cd to look at the menu.lst it pointed to the right place it seemed  linux kernel (hd1,2)
[07:44] <zeroflag> I just started it up and it complained about unresolved stuff...
[07:44] <zeroflag> so I let it resolve it...
[07:45] <Pici> zeroflag: Did you read what it was going to do?
[07:45] <zeroflag> synaptic gone...
[07:45] <Pelo> zeroflag, the sales point of aptitude it taht ir removes  dependendies when you remove a package,  next time use apt
[07:45] <zeroflag> gedit done...
[07:45] <Pici> zeroflag: Is this on Feisty or Gutsy?
[07:45] <ZeroA4> hwilde, me?
[07:45] <ubuntu666> I don't think I set the mounts correctly.. My C drive (windows) is not showing up under Computer.. Can someone help me fix this?
[07:45] <zeroflag> feisty
[07:45] <Pelo> generalsnus,   in grub speak   the hdd and partition numbering start at 0 then 1 then 2 etc
[07:46] <Pici> zeroflag: It shouldnt kill your ssh connection so you can just go and install whatever package you need after it finishes.
[07:46] <Pici> zeroflag: Just calm down for now though.
[07:46] <zeroflag> oh don't tell me it found a conflict in gdm and now removes everything? >_<
[07:46] <Pici> zeroflag: I've never seen it just do something without informing you what its going to do beforehand.
[07:46] <Pelo> zeroflag, more then likely you tried to remvoe someting with gdm as a dependency so gdm got removed as well
[07:46] <zeroflag> as far as I can see, it only removed gnome related stuff so far...
[07:47] <Pelo> I got to go now , later folks
[07:47] <Heman> How do I install as a partition I get this error: No root file system is defined please correct this from the partitioning menu...
[07:47] <generalsnus> Pelo: ok.. what if i unplug my winxp disk, before install.. is there a easy task to get winxp entry in grub menu.lst? as it would normally be in a dual boot?
[07:47] <Heman> Ubuntu imstall meaning...
[07:47] <Pici> Heman: You need to specify a partition to mount at /
[07:47] <zeroflag> didn't remove anything...
[07:47] <zeroflag> I only launched aptitude after synaptic crashed and let aptitude fix conflicts...
[07:48] <_roach> Hello friends, E ae pessoal
[07:48] <gnurph69> is there a Cisco VPN client available for ubuntu?
[07:48] <yotta> I'm using raid5, and have a failed drive.  I can
[07:48] <zeroflag> and it only said some stuff about keeping a few packages and updating some others...
[07:48] <sandman> hi, does anyone knows wich util am I able to use in order to defrag an FAT32 driver ?
[07:48] <zeroflag> it didn't say "I AM GOING TO REMOVE YOUR ENTIRE SYSTEM! ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US!"
[07:48] <yotta> It's on SATA, so when i remove the failed drive, device names change, and mdadm refuses to start the array.
[07:48] <yotta> anyone know how to fix this
[07:48] <zeroflag> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-16-server
[07:49] <zeroflag> err? oO
[07:49] <Davy_Jones> i mount my external hard drive with the sudo mount command.. for some reason after some time it decides to unmount all by itself.. how can i fix this?
[07:49] <yotta> it's pretty freaking stupid :/
[07:49] <UbuntNub> I've got a noob mounting problem.
[07:49] <sandman> any util to defrag fat32?
[07:49] <Heman> pici so how do do it...
[07:49] <brk3> UbuntNub: what is it
[07:49] <Heman> do you need a swap partition...?
[07:50] <UbuntNub> My music is all on an ntfs partition. When I mount the partition, it says I don't have rights to look at it :S
[07:50] <Pici> Heman: You need swap and root.
[07:50] <zeroflag> erm...
[07:50] <zeroflag> Removing pkg-config ...
[07:50] <brk3> UbuntNub: you should follow the instructions on ubuntuguide.org there's a section on mounting your ntfs partitions
[07:50] <zeroflag> ?
[07:50] <UbuntNub> I have all the user rights selected for this user...
[07:50] <zeroflag> is that normal? O_o
[07:50] <Shamurai> hello
[07:50] <brk3> Shamurai: hi
[07:51] <Heman> what do i do for the mount point (thnkx btw :P)
[07:51] <Shamurai> not sure
[07:52] <Dr_willis> mount point can be called anything.. but the directory MUST exist befor you mount to it
[07:52] <sandman> any util to defrag fat32?
[07:52] <genii> jeb: Still here?
[07:52] <jeb> yes
[07:53] <zeroflag> ok...
[07:53] <bogdomania> hello all...i get in the terminal that gcc is not configured..what that means?i cant install build essentials also..dependencies problems
[07:53] <zeroflag> something IS wrong...
[07:53] <jeb> trying to get the network run
[07:53] <zeroflag> now it's removing X...
[07:53] <zeroflag> O_O
[07:53] <sdrowkcab> how do you do the cube effect with compiz?
[07:53] <zeroflag> is it a good idea to hit Ctrl+C now? O_o
[07:53] <zeroflag> ok...
[07:53] <zeroflag> what the fuck is libswt3.2-gtk-gcj?
[07:53] <zeroflag> after removing 99% of my system it installed one package.
[07:54] <LjL> !language | zeroflag
[07:54] <ubotu> zeroflag: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:54] <zeroflag> libswt3.2-gtk-gcj.
[07:54] <jeb> I can't get the network run
[07:54] <genii> jeb: try: sudo dselect select                       it should put you in a primitive menuing system which allows you to set groups of packages back into a state of "install" instead of "installed"
[07:54] <jeb> dmesg shows me the network interface
[07:54] <zeroflag> LjL: TELL ME HOW TO GET MY SYTEM BACK NOT HOW TO TALK!
[07:54] <rgl> hi
[07:54] <jeb> hm, ...
[07:54] <Heman> pici
[07:54] <Pici> Heman: ?
[07:54] <rgl> are you guys using ipsec with racoon?  I'm lost here... can anyone help me out?
[07:55] <Heman> what do i do for the mount point (thnkx btw :P)
[07:55] <generalsnus> the SATA winxp drive: sda / hd0,1  ..  the IDE linux drive: sdb / hd1,0(ntfs)  hd1,1(swap) hd,1,2(linux ext3 /)     default ubuntu install.. $grub> find /boot/grub/stage1 = (hd1,2)
[07:55] <generalsnus> if that helped any
[07:55] <Pici> Heman: The mount point is '/' you need to pick a partition to use.
[07:55] <HOF> Ahh helps!
[07:56] <HOF> I need help with connecting to my wireless netwrok
[07:56] <HOF> work*
[07:56] <HOF> I have a Belkin 54g wireless router & receiver
[07:56] <Heman> ok thanks
[07:56] <HOF> I've got the WLAN key written down, and I when I enter it, it won't connect still
[07:58] <jeb> genii: i don't get the control of the program. how can I reset the installation status?
[07:59] <genii> jeb: change next to the package names the * to a space
[07:59] <tanajir> Hello, I just burned a copy of Ubuntu 7.10 Beta and Im checking it now.... I have an HP Pavilion with Nvidia GeForce Go 7400, is it easy to install its driver? or i might have some problems?
[07:59] <Pici> tanajir: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions please.
[08:00] <jeb> can I make this on the groups: Up to date installed packages
[08:00] <tanajir> thanks
[08:00] <ePax> I have installed compiz and XGL. Now i can only see videos on gnome-xgl and not on normal gnome session or kde session. How can i see videos on all sessions, gnome, gnome-xgl and kde?
[08:00] <hwilde> I just don't get it - WEP is so easy - how could WEP be broken??
[08:01] <john213> the security is very poor with WEP
[08:01] <Vlet> hwilde: I've had issues where I could not simply connect and enter my pass when asked - I've had to manually configure the connection and select the type of encryption uses
[08:01] <Vlet> used
[08:01] <hwilde> Vlet, I think the problem is a combination of upper and lowercase in the wep key...
[08:02] <Vlet> why do you think that is the case?
[08:03] <sdrowkcab> can someone please help me with compiz?
[08:03] <genii> jeb: for help on keystrokes in this prog, hit ? then k
[08:03] <Tech-Mike> i have a prob w/ wireless also...the security is wpa-tkip (think thats how u spell it)  but ubuntu only has a wep 128 option
[08:03] <magnetron> !compiz | sdrowkcab
[08:03] <ubotu> sdrowkcab: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:04] <sdrowkcab> i set it up but i cant do the cube effect
[08:04] <magnetron> Tech-Mike: if you use network-manager to configure the connection, you will get WPA support (if your wireless card/driver supports it)
[08:05] <jeb> genii: shouldn't pressing '+' change the status?
[08:05] <Tech-Mike> ill take a look, i know i tried goin into the Network option but i only had 3 wep options
[08:05] <cyclonut> anyone game to try at some eclipse help?
[08:05] <hwilde> Tech-Mike, you need wpa supplicant.
[08:06] <Cyrus25801> is there a program that I can use to password protect folders (a GUI)
[08:06] <Tech-Mike> and i know the adapter supports it cuz im using it now on vista (dual-boot)
[08:06] <bratao> Hi everyone, i have a box with Ubuntu Server, i install the ubuntu-destop, and VNC, configured everything(uncommnent and add gnome-session) but when i access the VNC, only a blank with mouse screen apper
[08:06] <jeb> genii: it just moves down to the next app
[08:06] <bratao> Any body know what happen ?
[08:06] <Tech-Mike> how do i get a supplicant
[08:06] <magnetron> Tech-Mike: don't use the network options use the network manager in the upper right corner
[08:06] <clouder> is it just me or is clamav slow?
[08:06] <Tech-Mike> did that magnetron
[08:07] <magnetron> Tech-Mike: what card and driver do you use?
[08:07] <Vlet> Cyrus25801: no, not really... you can right click on a folder and specify on it's permissions tab that only the owner can read it's contents
[08:07] <magnetron> Tech-Mike: chances are your card and driver doesn't support wpa in linux
[08:07] <Tech-Mike> Belkin usb F5D5070 (think thats the model)
[08:08] <magnetron> Tech-Mike: and the driver?
[08:08] <Vlet> Cyrus25801: so when you're logged in as you, you can access the contents, and no other users can, but there is no way to make it so you have to enter a password every time you want to access it
[08:08] <Tech-Mike> using the driver that came on the cd
[08:08] <SeveredCross> Hey, anyone know how I would add a file association?
[08:08] <SeveredCross> I need to permanently associate Musepack files (.mpc) with Banshee, but I can't find an option in Nautilus.
[08:08] <Cyrus25801> Vlet: but I want to stop ppl from accessing my files when I am logged in
[08:09] <Pici> SeveredCross: Right click on the file and go to the last tab
[08:09] <genii> jeb: Sorry for lag, at work
[08:09] <SeveredCross> Ah, right.
[08:09] <Pici> SeveredCross: er, to the properties item
[08:09] <Crozar> guys networking doesnt seem to work it says The folder content could not be displayed " Sorry, couldn't display all the contents of "Windows Network: user-xwtoonn1m0". "
[08:09] <SeveredCross> Yep, I got it now.
[08:09] <genii> jeb: Yes, + should set it
[08:09] <arnath> where can i alter settings for compiz fusion?
[08:09] <SeveredCross> arnath: Install Compiz Config SettingsManager
[08:09] <cyclonut> arnath - system->preferences->compizconfig settings manager
[08:09] <jeb> genii: i saw that they are all marked for install
[08:09] <cyclonut> as SeveredCross said, you may need to install it
[08:09] <jeb> but i can't reinstall them
[08:10] <notebook> hi all--basic question, how do i change drive directories in terminal?  thanks
[08:10] <jeb> tried apt-get upgrade and apt-get dselect-upgrade
[08:10] <Pici> notebook: cd
[08:10] <Tech-Mike> so...how do i set up a wpa supplicant
[08:10] <Pici> !cli | notebook
[08:10] <ubotu> notebook: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[08:10] <jeb> problem is: it wants to download files from the internet, which is not working at the moment
[08:10] <notebook> so if the drive partition is A i just do cd a?
[08:10] <SeveredCross> Nautilus thinks the .mpc extension is some MOPAC Input Format, and recognizes the file type as Musepack
[08:10] <cyclonut> notebook: I think that would be cd /media/a
[08:10] <notebook> ok cheers
[08:11] <SeveredCross> And just keeps throwing an error message about security risks, and won't open the file
[08:11] <notebook> then i just need to change read write permissions
[08:11] <cyclonut> chmod
[08:11] <jeb> genii: or should i use another command?
[08:11] <decay> How do i figure out if inetd or xinetd is running?
[08:11] <notebook> thanks cyclonut, that worked
[08:11] <decay> or, which one the system is using
[08:11] <notebook> do i do chown to change permissions?
[08:11] <cyclonut> notebook: yep
[08:11] <notebook> what's the full format cyclonut?>
[08:11] <notebook> chown /media/a?
[08:12] <Crozar> guys i am in a Network athome with my brother's Windows PC i cant enter hes shared folder from UbuntU = > Windows shared folders it says The folder content could not be displayed " Sorry, couldn't display all the contents of "Windows Network: user-xwtoonn1m0". "
[08:12] <cyclonut> chmod number file
[08:12] <cyclonut> sorry, chmod not chown I think
[08:12] <Vlet> Cyrus25801: There's really no way to do what you're asking for... you could put them in a password protected zip file or something
[08:12] <genii> jeb: I have not used this way before to set package states like this, so it is new for me as well as for you :)
[08:12] <cyclonut> chmod 777 *
[08:12] <decay> How do i find out if my system is using inetd or xinetd?
[08:12] <cyclonut> would change every file to be read, write, executable by anyone
[08:12] <magnetron> Tech-Mike: i've found that your card uses the zd1211 chipset, and that other users of that dongle had problems in the past in getting such a dongle support wpa
[08:12] <BarryDegeling> Hello everyone :)
[08:12] <cyclonut> so that is probably not what you want
[08:12] <godzirra_> anyone know much about a snd_hda_intel card on a laptop?  I've got it working, but the volume controls don't actually work when I have headphones plugged in.  If I have headphones plugged in and I use the volume softkeys, it turns the speakers back on so headphones and speakers work.
[08:13] <notebook> chmod 777* in the root directory? thanks again cyclonut
[08:13] <cyclonut> (every file in pwd that is)
[08:13] <Vlet> Cyrus25801: or, in a few days when 7.10 comes out, it has fast-user-switching ability... so you can just create everyone their own account - when you're not there, log out
[08:13] <cyclonut> notebook: nooo
[08:13] <jeb> genii: ok. is there a way to get the exact list of files and downlaod them manually?
[08:13] <cyclonut> notebook: hold o
[08:13] <Pici> Cyrus25801: Why dont you lock your screen? How are people getting access to your computer?
[08:13] <notebook> ok
[08:13] <cyclonut> notebook: http://catcode.com/teachmod/
[08:13] <Vlet> Or just put the nudie pics on a thumb drive ;)
[08:14] <tretle> where do I find the executable's for the applications installed on ubuntu?
[08:14] <BarryDegeling> Does anyone here know how to get a Linksys Wlan (pci) card working on Feisty Fawn?
[08:14] <Vlet> tretle: well, if you know the name of it, you can (in a terminal) type: whereis theprogramname
[08:14] <Pici> tretle: /usr/bin and /bin.  If you are looking for something in your $path, you can do which program
[08:14] <magnetron> !wireless | BarryDegeling
[08:14] <ubotu> BarryDegeling: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:14] <cyclonut> notebook: this might be an easier one: http://www.evolt.org/article/A_quick_and_dirty_chmod_Tutorial/18/541/
[08:14] <genii> jeb: Well, if you just copied the entire thing over from the vm all the stuff should actually still be there in /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:14] <notebook> so chmod isn't just for files?  cool, will read the tutorial.  cheers!
[08:14] <notebook> ok
[08:14] <genii> jeb: but the thing is that it thinks they are all installed and fine etc
[08:14] <tux_fl> gutsy dhcp assigns 192.168...when my router is giving out 10.11...
[08:15] <BarryDegeling> Thank you Magnetron :D
[08:15] <jeb> genii: it says: Need to get 52.4MB of archives
[08:15] <jeb> genii: don't know why it knows there are new versions
[08:16] <Pici> tretle: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions please.
[08:16] <jeb> genii: but can i get the exact version of the files it wants?
[08:16] <tux_fl> THANKS
[08:16] <susan> does anyome know that when i change my motherboard cpu and ram in my ubuntu computer it will still work enough to get my computer running?
[08:16] <genii> jeb: You can copy over from another box to the hd of that one into the /var/cache/apt/archives   dir the files it wants to d/l
[08:16] <erUSUL> decay: aptitude search inetd | awk '/^i/'
[08:17] <genii> jeb: But this would mean you need to have them on another box someplace obviously
[08:17] <ASTX813> How can I make a 5 meg bootable disk image that can be loaded by memdisk?  I'll I've found is how to make floppy images, and my tools need a bit more room.
[08:17] <Vlet> susan: As far as I know, it should..
[08:17] <jeb> genii: the point is that I don't know why the systems knows of new versions, so i don't know if it wants the newest or just a newer version
[08:18] <susan> Vlet:  i guess sound work work or graphics card
[08:18] <sdrowkcab> how do I do the cube effect with compiz?
[08:18] <decay> erUSUL, i have both inetd and xinetd installed. but i'd like to know which one the system is using at the moment
[08:18] <susan> won't work
[08:18] <Azrael24> hey guys
[08:19] <genii> jeb: It has a database but offhand i forget where
[08:19] <BarryDegeling> Another question: How do I solve the 'soft lockup detected on cpu #1' error? I get it when booting up with my Linksys Wlan card, and when I remove it theeroor doesn't show up anymore.'
[08:19] <jeb> genii: maybe it's easier to setup the network
[08:19] <Vlet> susan: Are you asking if it will work, or are you saying it doesn't?
[08:19] <jeb> genii: problem is that it shows me the network in the dmesg but doesn't create a network in /dev
[08:20] <Azrael24> after succesfully installing feisty, going past the login screen, and then the Nautilus screen...all I see is the desktop, and pointer...I can do ctrl.alt.f2...what's going on here?
[08:20] <ASTX813> I'd like to just dd if=usbstick of=disk.img, but the usb key is 1 gig and only 5 meg is in use, I'll still get a 1 gig .img
[08:20] <genii> jeb: I thought you said it had no network card
[08:20] <susan> Vlet:  if it doesnt work
[08:21] <erUSUL> decay: maybe sudo update-alternatives --config inetd
[08:21] <jeb> genii: no. no working network
[08:21] <mash000> now do i list the "installed packages" ?
[08:22] <new2ub> I've installed feisty a couple of days ago, I'm brand new to the linux world.  Everytime I insert a program cd in my cd drive, the computer freezes completely and the only way out is a hard boot
[08:22] <genii> jeb: I would suggest to try something like: sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop      (if you had it installed on the vm previously)
[08:23] <BarryDegeling> Does anyone know about the 'soft lockup detected on cpu #1' error?'
[08:23] <genii> jeb: Since ubuntu-desktop is also metapackage and contains many subpackages, the --reconfigure may work on it
[08:23] <eyemean> hello every1 im using ubuntu 7.04 with deluge bottorrent software
[08:23] <genii> jeb: sudo dpkg --reconfigure ubuntu-desktop     <-- eg
[08:23] <jeb> genii: great :D
[08:24] <MasterShrek> mash000, check in synaptic, you can filter by that
[08:24] <eyemean> but find deluge gets rejected by alot of sites due to ports etc, is it better to use ktorrent?
[08:24] <Vlet> susan: Are you logged into a terminal? Try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:24] <jeb> that's what i was looking for all the time: how to reinstall all installed packages
[08:24] <MasterShrek> eyemean, i prefer ktorrent
[08:24] <eyemean> yh
[08:24] <eyemean> is it easier to work with mastershrek?
[08:24] <MasterShrek> eyemean, ive never used deluge, but ktorrent has always worked great
[08:24] <MasterShrek> and its not a bulky as azereus
[08:25] <genii> jeb: ubuntu-desktop is only a set of packages, not everything which is installed
[08:25] <eyemean> cheers mastershrek, it k torrent k to use on gnome based ubuntu/
[08:25] <eyemean> ?
[08:25] <Tech-Mike> have a prob with window-decor ... gtk-window-decorator and emerald arnt working (they were until i did sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg) how do i fix?
[08:25] <MasterShrek> yea its fine, it will install kde libraries and stuff
[08:25] <jeb> genii: but it's a start
[08:25] <MasterShrek> but u can run any kde ap in gnome, and vice versa
[08:26] <eyemean> thank you mastershrek, much appreciated
[08:26] <genii> jeb: Well, if you can get that one successfully reinstalled from there should be easier
[08:26] <jeb> genii: maybe there needs to be another command? it just reinstalled the metapackage
[08:26] <clouder> eyemean: have you tried disabling DHT?  Some trackers don't like that
[08:26] <jeb> genii: and i've only the ubuntu-standard installed
[08:26] <eyemean> one last question, how come ur replies sometimes come up red ?
[08:26] <MasterShrek> jeb, you need to do a complete reinstall i think, reinsatlling the metapackage prolly wont do anything
[08:26] <MasterShrek> eyemean, cuz i typed ur name in it
[08:26] <amarillion> eyeman, like this one?
[08:26] <ASTX813> eyemean your irc client is highlighting messages that have your name in them
[08:26] <MasterShrek> see look, not red anymore
[08:26] <genii> jeb: the .deb should still have been in /var/cache/apt/archives, so it did not need to d/l it again
[08:26] <amarillion> eyemean, like this one?
[08:26] <amarillion> hehe
[08:27] <eyemean> oh right, lol
[08:27] <cresco> hey everyone
[08:27] <amarillion> typo
[08:27] <ASTX813> pounced
[08:27] <jeb> genii: it installs from the cd, but not the dependencies, so the command is useless
[08:27] <eyemean> thank you for all the replies to that silly question of mine, hahaha
[08:27] <BarryDegeling> Does anyone here have a Linksys WLAN card on Feisty? My system gives the 'Soft lockup detected on cpu #1' erro'
[08:27] <cresco> so when did you all switch to ubuntu
[08:28] <genii> jeb: You can access cd?
[08:28] <amx109> i upgraded to gutsy from 6.10 - apt seems to fail everytime when installing guidance-backend. is this a common problem? if not, any suggestions for fixing it or working around it?
[08:28] <erUSUL> !bugs | BarryDegeling
[08:28] <ubotu> BarryDegeling: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[08:28] <a4ndr3c> three years ago for me
[08:28] <MasterShrek> ive made many switches cresco, ive used ubuntu since it came out in 04, but ive used slack, gentoo, and various others
[08:28] <eyemean> clouder, not sure how to turn off DHT or wat it even is, i cant find it in settings
[08:28] <jeb> genii: yes
[08:28] <jrattner1> Question: How can I start a command from the command line, that will continue to run even after I log out of my server?
[08:28] <erUSUL> amx109: that upgrade is unsuported
[08:28] <dexem> if i would want to announce a new app for ubuntu, where should I sent an introductory email?
[08:28] <BarryDegeling> me when edgy came out :)
[08:28] <genii> jeb: OK. there may yet then be a fast and dirty way
[08:28] <clouder> eyemean: under click the preferences button then the network tab
[08:29] <Tech-Mike> anybody know why gtk-window-decor and emerald arnt working with nvidia drivers...thery were but i dont know what wrong now
[08:29] <MasterShrek> <<--- warty
[08:29] <dexem> which list is the best for this kind of things?
[08:29] <erUSUL> amx109: you have to do edgy-->feisty-->gutsy
[08:29] <cresco> how did you like gentoo Mastershrek
[08:29] <amx109> erUSUL, apologies,i meant feisty -> gutsy
[08:29] <MasterShrek> cresco, a pain in the ass lol
[08:29] <MasterShrek> my badd
[08:29] <eyemean> clouder, thank you, dont know how i missed it in settings, lol
[08:29] <cresco> heheh why?
[08:29] <erUSUL> !gutsy | amx109
[08:29] <ubotu> amx109: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[08:29] <Vlet> dexem: Maybe ask the folks in #ubuntu-devel
[08:29] <BarryDegeling> Anyone know of a good linux distribution that's not based on ubuntu, but comes close?
[08:29] <Vlet> dexem: Got a link so we could check it out?
[08:29] <MasterShrek> cresco, it has to compile everything you install for it
[08:30] <genii> jeb: Edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file to comment every line out which needs internet access. Save it. then do the apt-cdrom command to make the cd the repo. then apt-get update
[08:30] <cresco> ok
[08:30] <a4ndr3c> do u mean based in debian.....
[08:30] <amx109> erUSUL, ty
[08:30] <Skrux> how to print in a double face please ?
[08:30] <BarryDegeling> I do
[08:30] <drama1981> anybody ever tried to run ubuntu on a celeron/pIII 750mhz with 64mb ram (or similar)? im thinking about setting it up on an old box basically as a firewall/ics box
[08:30] <cresco> do you know is it possible to extract RAR files in ubuntu
[08:30] <eyemean> clouder, i still get same message, alert; connection refused (HTTP code=-1, times in a row-3)
[08:30] <a4ndr3c> drama1981, it will work perfectly
[08:31] <dexem> Vlet: of course -> https://forge.vodafonebetavine.net/frs/?group_id=12   It's an app to connect through 3G mobile cards
[08:31] <drama1981> cresco sudo apt-get install unrar
[08:31] <vince_> cresco, using the program unrar
[08:31] <is_null> !ppc | is_null
[08:31] <Skrux> how to print in a double face please ?
[08:31] <Vlet> dexem: cool!
[08:31] <erUSUL> drama1981: maybe ubuntu server
[08:31] <a4ndr3c> cresco, try apt-get install unrar
[08:31] <erUSUL> !rar | cresco
[08:31] <ubotu> cresco: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[08:31] <dexem> Vlet: it's going to reach v1.0 soon
[08:31] <skinnypuppy1334> drama1981: will work great however use the fastest cd rom it will support
[08:31] <jeb> genii: then, everything is OK
[08:31] <drama1981> a4ndr3c do you suggest i go for the server install or just use the desktop cd i already have?
[08:31] <dani_> how come sometimes my menus and dropdown-lists appear BEHIND my windows ?
[08:31] <genii> drama1981: I'm currently on here with a Pentium2/400 with 128Mb. With no GUI you can do 64Mb
[08:31] <Vlet> dexem: too bad I don't have a cellular device at all ;)
[08:32] <vlt> Hello. Is there a way to change the vol_id of an existing ext3 file system?
[08:32] <clouder> what happens when you click test active port
[08:32] <BarryDegeling> Goodbye everyone, I'm off to try Slax :)
[08:32] <genii> jeb: work, afk
[08:32] <vince_> or with a light gui.
[08:32] <dexem> Vlet: hehe
[08:32] <a4ndr3c> drama1981, in your case is better servr version
[08:32] <vince_> fluxbox might be indicated.
[08:32] <cresco> thanks you all
[08:32] <new2ub> I've installed feisty a couple of days ago, I'm brand new to the linux world.  Everytime I insert a program cd in my cd drive, the computer freezes completely and the only way out is a hard boot
[08:32] <jeb> genii: but it still doesn't reinstall the packages
[08:33] <vulcanius> hrm.. anyone have a dapper drake server sources.list?
[08:33] <cresco> what is the general opinion about Vista here
[08:33] <a4ndr3c> vulcanius, no....
[08:33] <drama1981> a4ndr3c ok ty. ill prob install ubuntu-firewall to as a way of manipulating iptables as im terrible with it and already have ubuntu-firewall down
[08:33] <Vlet> It's funny when someone ditches a distro because a piece of hardware doesn't work and they don't want to bother searching the web for previous discussion about getting it working
[08:33] <vulcanius> cresco, that ubuntu is better
[08:33] <pike_> new2ub: you could try disabling dma
[08:34] <cresco> heheh that is true
[08:34] <cresco> thats why i use it
[08:34] <Lazzie> Hello. Anyone know how to format external usb drives in ubuntu
[08:34] <new2ub> pike; how would I do that
[08:34] <genii> jeb: Did you do apt-cdrom then add the cd as the repo?
[08:34] <a4ndr3c> Vlet, agree agree... learning is very importing, search and learn please
[08:34] <Azrael24> hey guys, after spending many months with feisty, I keep having this issue - after  going past the login screen, and then the Nautilus screen...all I see is the desktop, and pointer...I can do ctrl.alt.f2...what's going on here?
[08:34] <jeb> genii: yes
[08:34] <pike_> new2ub: on the cdrom: gksu gedit /etc/hdparm.conf    and put like /dev/hdd{dma=off} i believe
[08:34] <Hilikus> hi guys
[08:34] <Xteven> hello world
[08:34] <Azrael24> *maybe* 5% of the time it will work after constant reboots
[08:34] <pike_> new2ub: might check that with someone else here
[08:35] <new2ub> pike; ok, idiot here (me that is) how would I get to this area?
[08:35] <genii> jeb: It should be able now to install/reinstall metapackage of ubuntu-desktop, from the cd as a repo. whatever deps should also be on there
[08:35] <Xteven> I'm lookingn for a timetracker (like gnotime), but that can upload it's data to the evolution calendar
[08:35] <Heman> can you get a dreamscene feature for ubuntu?
[08:35] <jeb> genii: it doesn't reinstall the deps
[08:35] <jeb> that's the problem
[08:35] <Azrael24> Heman...that'd be Beryl
[08:35] <jeb> in dselect, they're marked as install
[08:36] <cresco> where are you people from
[08:36] <Azrael24> Beryl is way better than Vista's Dreamscape...if that's what you're referring to
[08:36] <pike_> new2ub: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA  and ask me if you have any questions about the steps
[08:36] <Vlet> Azrael24: maybe try (from a terminal) doing: sudo adduser test
[08:36] <genii> jeb: try: sudo apt-get check
[08:36] <Hilikus> i cant access to my ubuntu server from outside my lan, i forwarded the port in my router and i tested online and the port IS open, yet sshd or apache dont report any connections attempts, is there some other protection layer in ubuntu (i.e. a firewall)
[08:36] <Sir_Jarkko_> Nythn m taas evoilen
[08:36] <new2ub> pike ty for your help....going to website now :)
[08:36] <cresco> moi Sir_jarkko
[08:36] <Azrael24> trying, Vlet
[08:36] <Vlet> Azrael24: and create a test user - try logging in with that user then to see if maybe some of your gnome settings got moofed up
[08:36] <Hilikus> i was also thinking of iptables?? but i think iptables by default allow everything
[08:37] <jeb> genii: done, no further output
[08:37] <Sir_Jarkko> Uh, sry wrong page ^^'''''
[08:37] <cresco> mist pin suomea s olet?
[08:37] <a4ndr3c> cresco use only english
[08:37] <Heman> azrael: how in berly (I have compiz fusion btw) how do I set up a dreamscene then...?
[08:37] <cresco> ok ok
[08:37] <Vlet> Azrael24: if all works fine for that user, then you'll need to maybe backup all the files (including hidden ones) in your home directory then delete em... that, in theory, should make your account squeaky clean
[08:38] <Sir_Jarkko> cresco: Itsuomi
[08:38] <Skrux> how to print in a double face please ?
[08:38] <Skrux> in open office !
[08:38] <vince_> Hilikus, not unless firecracker is installed
[08:38] <Azrael24> Vlet...especially when taskbars are absent?
[08:38] <vince_> starter, i mean
[08:38] <Hilikus> is firecracker installed by default in a lamp server edition?
[08:39] <Hilikus> vince_ what else could it be
[08:39] <Azrael24> I've disabled the login screen on my last successful boot up....does not prompt login screen anymore, it auto logs me in
[08:39] <genii> jeb: Hmm. 1 minute
[08:39] <Heman> zrael: how in berly (I have compiz fusion btw) how do I set up a dreamscene then...?
[08:39] <superman> hey how do i know which kernal i have 2.4 or 2.6
[08:39] <Vlet> Azrael24: well, yeah perhaps... gnome stores all it's settings in your home folder in hidden folders, so I would imagine that if gnome ain't working right, then if you flush everything, it'll create default settings for everything... worth a try :)
[08:39] <a4ndr3c> superman, uname -a
[08:39] <Azrael24> Heman...you got the fun part...keep experimenting with it and it will come to it...that's how I learned, and I'm new to all this
[08:40] <Vlet> Azrael24: oh... then you may need to (from a terminal) edit your /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[08:40] <vince_> Hilikus, I see nothing but iptables, or your services dont listen on the ports you suppose they do
[08:40] <Vlet> Azrael24: to disable autologin
[08:40] <Azrael24> ok
[08:40] <a4ndr3c> Vlet, thats not recomended
[08:40] <Azrael24> uh
[08:40] <Azrael24> what's recommended then?
[08:40] <Hilikus> vince_ am i wrong in that iptables by default allow everything?
[08:40] <vince_> you're not
[08:40] <genii> jeb: Try only: dpkg --configure ubuntu-desktop
[08:41] <a4ndr3c> try gui interface for configure gdm
[08:41] <Hilikus> weird!
[08:41] <Heman> Azrael24: I know but im using compiz not beyrl?
[08:41] <Hilikus> they do work within the lan so its not a matter of ports
[08:41] <Heman> Azrael24: Please just a clue...
[08:41] <jeb> genii: error, already configured
[08:41] <genii> jeb: the cd you used...was it an alternate cdrom without the GUI install, or a regular cd with the gnome or kde?
[08:41] <Vlet> a4ndr3c: but the problem here is that Az has no gui... gnome is not fully loading
[08:41] <Hilikus> and like i said, i tested for open ports online and the ports ARE open, so the router is not the problem
[08:41] <a4ndr3c> Vlet, oh sorry... my mistake
[08:41] <jeb> genii: used the alternate installer and installed the text-mode system
[08:42] <Hilikus> it is forwarding traffic
[08:42] <Azrael24> Heman...I'd help if I could, but no way of using full use of my feisty
[08:42] <jeb> means i've only the ubuntu-standard installed
[08:42] <Hilikus> so maybe ill check the iptables
[08:42] <Azrael24> ok I'll try Vlet's suggestion
[08:42] <genii> jeb: Well, thats why it's having issues finding stuff
[08:42] <Lazzie> how do i partition things in ubuntu
[08:42] <jeb> ?
[08:42] <vince_> Hilikus, how do you know that your port is open?
[08:42] <vince_> forwarded, I mean.
[08:42] <Hilikus> online scan
[08:42] <a4ndr3c> Lazzie, try gparted
[08:43] <d4rkmonkey> !gparted | Lazzie
[08:43] <ubotu> Lazzie: GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[08:43] <Hilikus> 80 and 22 / apache and sshd
[08:43] <Heman> Azrael24: I don't understand...
[08:43] <vince_> Hilikus, is your router a computer?
[08:43] <Hilikus> no
[08:43] <Vlet> Azrael24: look for AutomaticLoginEnable=true in your config file
[08:43] <Vlet> Azrael24: and set to false of course :)
[08:43] <Hilikus> netgear router
[08:43] <vince_> are you sure these 22 and 80 that you see open are not your router's?
[08:44] <Azrael24> I'm in terminal, but need full line please to configure it
[08:44] <genii> jeb: If you have a standard ubuntu install cd and not the alternate one, put that in instead when you run apt-cdrom
[08:44] <Azrael24> I mean my laptop is behind me in terminal mode
[08:44] <genii> jeb: then it will be able to install ubuntu-desktop
[08:44] <MasterShrek> Hilikus, its possible your isp is blocking those ports...mine does
[08:44] <jeb> genii: it found the cd, that's not the problem
[08:44] <jeb> genii: and for the moment, i want the base system to work
[08:45] <bieb> how can I setup my terminal so highlighted text is automagically copied to the clipboard?
[08:45] <Azrael24> I just realized something....name of user and laptop can't be the same, can they?
[08:45] <genii> jeb: Well, manually is a real PITA
[08:45] <j_> beib: it sort of already is, there's a "selection" clipboard in linux
[08:45] <Azrael24> since I've been doing this...I've always used same names
[08:45] <jeb> genii: ....
[08:45] <j_> whoops sorry, meant bieb
[08:46] <erUSUL> bieb: that's the default then you paste with middle button
[08:46] <genii> jeb: First i would see what network adapter you have (if there is one) then get that going. Once internet can be reached other things will be a bit simpler
[08:46] <tabasco_> send $
[08:46] <Intangir> hey
[08:46] <j_> erUSUL: technically, there are two, a copy-paste clipboard and a "selection" clipboard ...
[08:46] <Intangir> what is a good command line utility for disecting pdf files into seperate files per page
[08:46] <Vlet> Azrael24: yes, they can
[08:47] <jeb> genii: dmesg: SiS 900 PCI Fast Ethernet
[08:47] <bieb> j_ it saves it for the console to reuse, but I cant paste into a doc
[08:47] <jeb> genii: but it doesn't create a device-node at /dev
[08:47] <orduek> hello
[08:47] <Vlet> Azrael24: to turn off autologin, type this: sudo nano /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[08:47] <Azrael24> Vlet...do I type: sudo apt /etc/gdm/gdm.confg  ?
[08:47] <orduek> I have a skype installation problem
[08:47] <Azrael24> ah ok...typing
[08:47] <j_> bieb: you should be able to select text from the console and then bring up the focus in openoffice and hit the middle mouse key
[08:47] <orduek> if anyone can help
[08:47] <Hilikus> MasterShrek online scannner told me its open
[08:47] <Meroigo> I got an additional monitor, connected it through the DVI port on the video card. It got a picture, but it's an exact mirror of my original monitor's, and, the colours are crazy an totally off. How do I make it become like an extended desktop? :P
[08:48] <j_> bieb: if you "loose the selection" it won't paste, so make sure not to highlight anything else
[08:48] <Intangir> LF pdf editor for linux
[08:48] <bieb> j_ I am trying to post command line info into an email ticket
[08:48] <Vlet> Azrael24: and a little ways down, you'll see 'AutomaticLoginEnable=true'... change it to false, then hit ctrl-o to save and then ctrl-x to exit
[08:48] <genii> jeb: I'm not sure why you are installing in this convoluted install-to-vm-then-copy-vm-to-hd-then-reconfigure  way if: cdrom works or: ethernet adapter works
[08:49] <jeb> genii: because it always hangs
[08:49] <j_> bieb: that should work just fine. You use the middle button on the mouse as a regular button. Try opening two text editors, then type some stuff in one, select the text and paste it into the other to get the hang of it
[08:49] <genii> jeb: Can it boot from ethernet adapter with PXE?
[08:50] <jeb> genii: I never used network-boot
[08:50] <j_> brb
[08:50] <bieb> ahhh the middle button
[08:50] <bieb> thanks j_
[08:50] <orduek> I have a dependencie problem during skype installation
[08:50] <orduek> can anyone help me with that?
[08:51] <Azrael24> weird...it's alread on 'false'
[08:51] <zanth> good day, I'm having a problem with a pci sataII expansion card and drivers
[08:51] <genii> jeb: Did you try install from alternate CD then look at console4 of installer to see what errors it was giving? also what boot options did you try,eg: noacpi or notsc etc etc
[08:51] <Azrael24> yet it autologs in just fine
[08:51] <Heman> does anyone else know if you can make a dreamscene feature in UBUNTU?
[08:51] <Azrael24> lol
[08:52] <RoboticTao> How do I add a sshfs mount to /ect/fstab? Is the syntax the same as a normal mount point?
[08:52] <zanth> the card is being detected as a initio corp card and sata_inic162x is being loaded
[08:52] <nas> Question: I am setting up apache and i recently called my service provider and upgraded so that they open port 80. I set up apache, yet I still cant access it from my outside IP
[08:52] <Vlet> Azrael24: is it maybe timed login? that option is right below the other in that config
[08:52] <zanth> but I own an siig card 3512
[08:52] <jeb> genii: modprobe process were always dead
[08:52] <Johto> www.microsoft.com <-- nice bill gates picture ..bill roks
[08:52] <zanth> sata_sil should be the driver loaded I think
[08:52] <nas> it displays when i use my routers default ip from another machine - so i know its running
[08:52] <zanth> the odd thing is that the drive connected is detected /dev/sde1
[08:52] <nas> any suggestions?
[08:52] <zanth> and it posts the right info, but I can't mount it
[08:52] <RoboticTao> nas: Forward port 80 on whatever firewall you have in front of your server on your end
[08:52] <orduek> anyone?? skype problem?
[08:52] <nas> i did that as well
[08:52] <lavender_dream> Hello, I'm trying to get my Nintendo USB Wi-fi Connector to work under Ubuntu and I was wondering if anyone has had success or know of a workaround
[08:53] <nas> i just reset my router and modem so im going to make sure its still set up and try again
[08:53] <MasterShrek> i cant play real media at all, well it plays, but its very choppy...anyone know what to do?
[08:53] <new2ub> pkie_; I followed instructions and typed "sudo hdparm /dev/hdc    then it resulted in "no such file or directory
[08:53] <Hilikus> nas i have the exact same problem, i know my port is open because of online port scans, and i know the router is forwarding it, yet i cant connect
[08:53] <spinner_> can i install amarok on Gnome / ubuntu or do i need the KDE platform ?
[08:53] <Hilikus> and i can connect within the lan too
[08:54] <zanth> spinner_ you can install it
[08:54] <nas> yea ditto
[08:54] <zanth> but kde base will be installed
[08:54] <Hilikus> nas do you use the server edition?
[08:54] <nas> im not sure whats up
[08:54] <nas> no
[08:54] <nas> i was just playing around with it
[08:54] <spinner_> i just download the verson that is ment for kubuntu?
[08:54] <Hilikus> something i havent checked is iptables
[08:54] <MasterShrek> spinner_, you can install it, but it might come with kde libraries and stuff
[08:54] <MasterShrek> spinner_, just apt-get it, there is no other version than the kde version
[08:55] <zanth> spinner_ apt-get install amarok
[08:55] <RoboticTao> nas: You realize it will not let you connect with the public ip if you are on the same lan the server is on right now.
[08:55] <Azrael24> Heman...you'll have better luck here
[08:55] <Azrael24> http://forum.beryl-project.org/
[08:55] <spinner_> tnx
[08:55] <genii> jeb: "modprobe process died unexpectedly" or similar was the error displayed in console4 of alternate CD installation?
[08:55] <nas> No I did not know that
[08:55] <nas> lol
[08:55] <zanth> might anyone be able to help me with a driver issue? how to force the right driver to be used etc?
[08:55] <jeb> genii: 'ps' showed D
[08:55] <RoboticTao> nas: That would be it then. Try at a coffee shop/school.
[08:55] <orduek> can anybody help me with my skype installation problem??
[08:55] <Azrael24> Vlet...very strange, you might think I'm nuts, but I'm an IT guy and I saved that conf and still it autologins
[08:55] <Hilikus> i didnt think it was because because iptables are supposed to allow everything by default
[08:56] <nas> ill try to connect to it from my sister's computer which is on a different router
[08:56] <Hilikus> but i havent checked
[08:56] <nas> i mean different modem
[08:56] <Dunas> Busy as always.
[08:56] <acidhoax> tem brazileiro na jogada aqui
[08:56] <acidhoax> ??
[08:56] <RoboticTao> nas: That should work
[08:56] <decay> Getting the following error when adding a directory to $PATH............bash: export: `/media/Shared/programming/books/python books/John Goerzen/chapter 3': not a valid identifier
[08:56] <decay> any ideas?
[08:56] <Hilikus> nas did you check the server logs?
[08:56] <spinner_> tnx zanth: but i do not know what apt means i just installed linux for the first time yesterday.. :P
[08:56] <Hilikus> to see if at least the requests are getting to the server?
[08:56] <zanth> oh...
[08:56] <RoboticTao> Does anyone know the syntax for adding sshfs to /etc/fstab for automounting?
[08:56] <Hilikus> cause in my case they are not
[08:57] <zanth> spinner, open up a terminal type apt-get update && apt-get install amarok
[08:57] <zanth> that should do the trick
[08:57] <Vlet> Azrael24: hehehe... hmm, try (in that conf file) ctrl-w and search for your username and take it out wherever
[08:57] <acidhoax> any pleople have problems with client ubuntu feisty using ldap+samba+udevd????
[08:57] <Azrael24> ok
[08:57] <spinner_> nice :)
[08:57] <genii> jeb: At what point during attempted install from alternate CD was it choking previously?
[08:58] <nas> Rob: that worked :)
[08:58] <Dunas> So 7.10 is coming out soon- what's the channel for it? I wanted to ask if the most recent available beta plays nicer with RTL8185 wireless chipsets, which almost every distro seems to hate.
[08:58] <genii> jeb: Because I really think it's more practical to try and install from some other way first before doing this vm-to-hd way
[08:58] <tonyyarusso> !gutsy | Dunas
[08:58] <lavender_dream> Hello, I'm trying to get my Nintendo USB Wi-fi Connector to work under Ubuntu and I was wondering if anyone has had success or know of a workaround
[08:58] <ubotu> Dunas: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[08:58] <Azrael24> my name in there is not found  lol
[08:58] <Dunas> Thanks.
[08:59] <carlog> someone knows how to make compiz-fusion whorks with via sg3 unichrome pro igp videocard?
[08:59] <a4ndr3c> carlog, how old is that card?
[08:59] <Vlet> Azrael24: ok, I'm lost ;)
[08:59] <jeb> genii: i'll try it once more
[08:59] <Azrael24> thanks for your time thought, Vlet
[08:59] <carlog> I don't know
[08:59] <j_> beib: anytime
[09:00] <a4ndr3c> carlog, what about video ram?
[09:00] <genii> jeb: I'll be here for about 1 1/2 to 2 more hours, I'll try to assist until then if neccesary
[09:00] <roger> moin
[09:00] <roger> kann jemand deutsch?
[09:00] <roger> speak who german_
[09:00] <a4ndr3c> roger, only english
[09:00] <roger> ok sorry
[09:00] <carlog> a4ndr3c 64MB shared
[09:00] <jeb> roger: ich, aber es gibt auch noch #ubuntu-de
[09:01] <Hilikus> nas any luck?
[09:01] <Vlet> Azrael24: One last thought... you can type: "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" to completely turn off the gui... then, log in as test (in another ctrl-alt-f2 screen or whatever) and then type "startx"
[09:01] <Vlet> Azrael24: that's a way to force X to start as the test user, but that whole autologin thing is weird :)
[09:01] <nas> yea
[09:01] <a4ndr3c> carlog, is that a onboard graphics card?
[09:01] <nas> It actually works
[09:01] <nas> http://24.190.20.4
[09:01] <carlog> a4ndr3c yes
[09:01] <jeb> genii: thx for your help. anyway, till know i always stopped the install process after no change for around a half hour
[09:02] <spinner_> Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied) how do i get permision
[09:02] <j_> spinner_: use "sudo"
[09:02] <carlog> a4ndr3c xorg detects it's like "vesa"
[09:02] <a4ndr3c> carlog, humm u even tried instaling beryl?
[09:02] <j_> spinner_: as in "sudo apt-get install <package>"
[09:02] <Hilikus> it does, what if you do it from a computer within the network but using your external ip?
[09:02] <decay> /usr/sbin/ is listed in $PATH. if i put a script i made into that directory, i should be able to run it by typing 'scriptname', no?
[09:02] <a4ndr3c> carlog, try glxgears, the gears rotate fluently?
[09:03] <spinner_> tnx
[09:03] <j_> spinner_: anytime :)
[09:03] <spinner_> sudo is the same as su root
[09:03] <nas> no i cant access it
[09:03] <nas> using my external on this network
[09:03] <carlog> a4ndr3c what is these glxgears?
[09:03] <Hilikus> because maybe mine worked too but i never tried it from outside
[09:03] <spinner_> so evrytime i need to have root i just write sudo first=?
[09:03] <nas> yea
[09:03] <j_> spinner_: sort of yeah. It executes the command with root privaleges without actually becoming root
[09:03] <Hilikus> oh cool, so mine maybe did work
[09:03] <Hilikus> thanks
[09:03] <j_> spinner_: yep.
[09:04] <j_> spinner_: if you actually need to *become* root, you have to set a password for it as ubuntu has root disabled by default
[09:04] <RoboticTao> !sshfs
[09:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sshfs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:04] <spinner_> u just answerd my next question
[09:04] <spinner_> :=
[09:05] <j_> spinner_: hehe
[09:05] <Zembla> hi there, anybody here has experience with xfce?
[09:05] <Hilikus> nas it could be that the server doesnt accept connections from its own external ip
[09:05] <erUSUL> decay: yes but better use /usr/local/bin
[09:05] <sdrowkcab> why do I have 1 desktop instead of 4?
[09:05] <Enky> My xubuntu computer crash when the screensaver gets active. I cannot change it at 'settings', because that "preview window" also crash it. I'm wondering if i can change screensaver inside the terminal? How?
[09:05] <Veros> hey is ther anything like "cluster size" for linux file systems?
[09:05] <nas> that is the problem
[09:05] <genii> jeb: There is a pcmcia module which causes hangups on install but can be bypassed by going to busybox console in alternate install and removing the driver it keeps trying to load
[09:06] <nas> well was teh problem
[09:06] <j_> sdrowcab: are you using gnome?
[09:06] <Hilikus> anyway, ill test mine when i get home
[09:06] <acidhoax> hellp
[09:06] <acidhoax> hello
[09:06] <jeb> genii: which one is it?
[09:06] <j_> acidhoax: sup acid? What do you need?
[09:07] <genii> jeb: i82365.ko
[09:07] <erUSUL> Veros: block size??
[09:07] <musikgoat> i'm missing /lib/modules/<my-kernel-version>/build  directory?   i have a generic build directory, but with this, i cant reconfigure vmware,  any suggestions?
[09:07] <erUSUL> musikgoat: 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)'
[09:07] <skinnypuppy1334> ANyone know how to save video off CNN ?
[09:07] <skinnypuppy1334> http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/ireports/2007/10/04/vo.ireport.wasps.cnn
[09:07] <Veros> erUSUL: is space wasted as in windows?
[09:07] <musikgoat> erUSUL:  thanks
[09:08] <sdrowkcab> why do I have 1 desktop instead of 4?
[09:08] <jeb> genii: thx
[09:08] <Veros> for large number of small files
[09:08] <j_> sdrowkcab: Are you using gnome drow?
[09:08] <RoboticTao> What's the UID of a normal user?
[09:08] <erUSUL> Veros: there is internal fragmentation in any filesystem (well reiser claims that it reduces it but...)
[09:08] <Draggin> Good evening!
[09:08] <DShepherd> sdrowkcab, God made it happen that way.. i dont know
[09:08] <frostburn> !iso
[09:08] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[09:08] <DShepherd> sdrowkcab, what do you want help with?
[09:08] <sdrowkcab> ah
[09:09] <lyn_> I have a question.  I registerd my nick here this morning, been using it.  I just restarted my comp and came back in and it says its being used.  I click on it in here, and it's me.  same location and everything.  How do I fix this?>
[09:09] <Draggin> Are there any digital artists or graphic designers in here? Specifically someone who uses a graphics tablet...?
[09:09] <sdrowkcab> i cant do the cube effect because there is only one desktop
[09:09] <j_> sdrowkcab: ah you're using compiz
[09:09] <Veros> erUSUL: not fragmentation, I am talking about wasted cluster space
[09:09] <skinnypuppy1334> sdrowkcab do you have the manager  ?
[09:09] <bkruse> Hey guys, any of you have any experience with compression??
[09:09] <decay> erUSUL, i have tried. but no luck
[09:09] <sdrowkcab> i have compiz manager
[09:09] <DShepherd> lyn_, /ghost nick <password> should kill your current nick
[09:09] <cresco> does anyone know that is there any list of usefull comands for the console?
[09:09] <skinnypuppy1334> You have to change a setting to 4 desktops
[09:09] <bkruse> particularly indexing, and searching through a big text compressed file??
[09:09] <RoboticTao> bkruse: A little, compressing what?
[09:09] <erUSUL> Veros: if you use or have lot of small files ( size < 4 kiB) you can make the filesystem with 1k block size
[09:10] <decay> erUSUL, do i have to restart for it to take effect?
[09:10] <bkruse> RoboticTao: A big xml file, then being able to diff between another big xml file
[09:10] <sdrowkcab> and under general i selected 4 desktops and i see them in the bottom right corner
[09:10] <skinnypuppy1334> Under General settings and Desktop Size
[09:10] <sdrowkcab> but i cant use them
[09:10] <Veros> erUSUL: so it is the same as in NTFS, FAT, right?
[09:10] <bkruse> RoboticTao: particularly indexing it, so it knows what blocks are part of what article
[09:10] <DShepherd> sdrowkcab, ask in #ubuntu-effects for help with compiz
[09:10] <Veros> cluster size = block size
[09:10] <RoboticTao> bkruse: Can't help you there sorry
[09:10] <sdrowkcab> thank you
[09:10] <erUSUL> Veros:  wasted cluster space [09:10] <bkruse> RoboticTao: all well, thanks
[09:10] <eyeofmind> clear
[09:10] <eyeofmind> !list
[09:10] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:10] <erUSUL> Veros: in that regard yes
[09:10] <DShepherd> sdrowkcab, no problem. Hope you figure it out
[09:11] <genii> jeb: workaround is described here: http://random.openminds.be/2007/02/19/intel-isa-pcic-probe-not-found/     except it is in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/pcmcia and not /lib/modules/`uname -r`/drivers/pcmcia  as the article describes
[09:11] <Veros> erUSUL: i didn't know that term:)
[09:11] <lyn_> DShepherd; just typing that in subbing my password for that word didn't work.
[09:11] <erUSUL> Veros: about external fragmentation you can read http://geekblog.oneandoneis2.org/index.php/2006/08/17/why_doesn_t_linux_need_defragmenting
[09:11] <eyeofmind> any BOTS around?
[09:11] <UncleD> I want to install http://www.backports.org/debian/pool/main/g/git-core/git-core_1.5.3.2-1~bpo40+2_i386.deb - how do i do so properly?
[09:11] <lyn_> DShepherd; it just says unknown command
[09:11] <DShepherd> lyn_, oh.. that would work for xchat. not all irc clients support that.. what client you using?
[09:11] <jeb> genii: thx for the link
[09:11] <Veros> erUSUL: but how can reiser reduce internal fragmentation then?
[09:12] <jeb> genii: it's now loading trm290 and that's where it never continues
[09:12] <DShepherd> lyn_, wanna give xchat a go?  :-D
[09:12] <stefgl> UncleD: you shouldn't use debian packages on ubuntu...
[09:12] <jeb> genii: modprobe process is marked D
[09:12] <lyn_> DShepherd; Konversation
[09:12] <lyn_> I couldn't get xchat to work
[09:12] <UncleD> stefg1: I need 1.5.3 of git and its not even available on backports yet.
[09:12] <eyeofmind> has ATI really got their drivers out? cause my X1200M flickers on one end of the screen in 7.04
[09:12] <UncleD> stefg1: so tell me how to do it properly given that.
[09:12] <stefgl> !info git-core
[09:12] <DShepherd> lyn_, hmm.. ask in kubuntu. they know more about konversation i guess
[09:12] <ubotu> git-core: content addressable filesystem. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.4.4.2-1build1 (feisty), package size 2295 kB, installed size 5128 kB
[09:13] <UncleD> see^.
[09:13] <Enky> My xubuntu computer crash when the screensaver gets active. I cannot change it at 'settings', because that "preview window" also crash it. I'm wondering if i can change screensaver inside the terminal? How?
[09:13] <Draggin> stefgl - why not? I thought Ubuntu is Debian-based?
[09:13] <wasabi> Anybody aware why using LVM in the feisty installer (server) would hang the installer for a good five minutes?
[09:13] <lyn_> DShepherd; I tried xchat and it would never connect
[09:13] <stefgl> UncleD: if you really need that version, you rather build from source
[09:13] <stefgl> !debian
[09:13] <ubotu> Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[09:13] <DShepherd> lyn_, ok . #kubuntu then?
[09:13] <lyn_> ok
[09:14] <erUSUL> Veros: it colapses the contents of varius clusters (blocks in linux terminology) into one when it can
[09:14] <Draggin> Hmmm... Okay... But why not? What would happen?
[09:14] <stefgl> Draggin: ubuntu uses different toolchains and lib-versions... using debian packages can be ugly and break apt.... not the funniest thing to do
[09:14] <Veros> erUSUL: where can  I read about internal frgmentation?
[09:14] <genii> jeb: that pcmcia issue I just explained about causes all kinds of weirdnesses with modprobe, because it keeps trying to cyclically load the i82365 driver but fails, tying up the pnp/module system entirely
[09:15] <DShepherd> lyn_, or you can just wait a couple minutes till the nick expires or watever the term is
[09:15] <j_> Enky: sudo apt-get remove --purge xscreensaver
[09:15] <cool200> is there more the one ubunta irc channel
[09:15] <unicode> !mkv
[09:15] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:15] <pegger__> Draggin: it would not be able to find prerequisites
[09:15] <Draggin> stefgl - Okay... And how exactly would you be able to distinguish a debian package? Don't some Ubuntu installer packages also have a .deb extension?
[09:16] <pegger__> Draggin: look at the package information
[09:16] <pegger__> Draggin: open up the package
[09:16] <stefgl> Draggin: you don't need to distinguish... you only use signed ubuntu sources, so you'll never encounter a package meant for debian
[09:16] <Draggin> stefgl - but there are apps that I need to install and run that are not listed in the repositories...
[09:16] <cman_> I have a toshiba 4010 w/ 7.04 and the network card is not working. - the wireless works fine, i think its a driver issue. Any one have ideas?
[09:17] <decay> I can't even chmod a file
[09:17] <decay> chmod: changing permissions of `hw.py': Operation not permitted
[09:17] <decay> howcome?
[09:17] <boro> is there anybody here who can help me with the sound on my laptop?
[09:17] <Matir> is there a good program that will let me monitor the bandwidth usage on my linux-based router?
[09:17] <Vlet> Draggin: ubuntu is based on debian, so it's like.... they both speak english... just with different accents :)
[09:17] <Draggin> Hehe, Vlet, cookl :)
[09:18] <UncleD> stefgl: http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/git-1.5.3.4.tar.gz is git latest. Can I build it the "ubuntu" way ? How would i do that?
[09:18] <boro> does anyone have time to help me with my laptop-sound problem?
[09:18] <stefgl> Draggin: build from source... package names are different in debian and ubuntu, so you won't have the prper dependencies. And getting out of the mess when you managed to break apt is time-consuming, actually it's quicker to restore a backup
[09:18] <cman_> of course not, they don't have time to help me with my nic problem
[09:18] <boro> :)
[09:19] <orduek> hello again
[09:19] <Draggin> stefgl - okay... Fair enough, but I'm still very new to Linux and not quite sure how to build apps from the source...
[09:19] <Pici> !patience
[09:19] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:19] <orduek> can anyone help me with a skype 1.4 installation - i'm getting a dependencie problem
[09:19] <stefgl> !build | UncleD
[09:19] <ubotu> UncleD: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:19] <genii> jeb: that module you are having issues with seems related to onboard SATA controller. Did you set your BIOS for ATA compatability mode?
[09:19] <decay> how do i open root terminal?
[09:20] <Pici> decay: sudo -i
[09:20] <stefgl> !root | decay
[09:20] <ubotu> decay: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[09:20] <decay> Pici, thank yo u
[09:20] <wladston> guys, is there any "bug solving channel" or something like for gusty ? My system doesnt start anymore after installing gusty and trying dual screens
 is patiently waiting
[09:20] <Matir> wladston, #ubuntu+1
[09:21] <j_> cman_: what's wrong with your nic?
[09:21] <wladston> Matir: thanks :)
[09:21] <wladston> /joint #ubuntu+1
[09:21] <wladston> ops, sorry
[09:21] <stefgl> !gutsy | wladston
[09:21] <ubotu> wladston: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[09:21] <unagi> is there anything for linux that is really really similar to quicktime such as scrubbing through the footage and in browser play?
[09:21] <Vlet> lawl /joint
[09:21] <genii> work, AFK
[09:21] <decay> whats ubuntu+!?
[09:21] <decay> ubuntu+1*
[09:21] <jeb> genii: there aren't such messages in the log
[09:21] <unagi> OH YEA GUTSY IS OUT SOON ISNT IT!
[09:22] <jeb> genii: i'll check the ata-support
[09:22] <j_> cman_: ?
[09:22] <pegger__> unagi: what do you mean scrubbing?
[09:22] <stefgl> !caps | unagi
[09:22] <ubotu> unagi: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[09:22] <radioman_> AAAA ;] 
[09:22] <unagi> when you drag the slider to the right it plays through the video rather than skipping to that part on the timeline
[09:22] <cman_> I plug it in, no lights on the connection, no DHCP - set static ip, no go
[09:22] <genii> jeb: If possible set in bios to where the sata drives get seen as legacy/compatible/ata
[09:23] <j_> cman_: hmm. Are the kernel drivers loaded and is the nic recognized?
[09:24] <cman_> a wired connection shows up under network settings, but I don't know how to check the kernel drivers
[09:24] <j_> cman_: ok what kind of nic is it?
[09:24] <joepi> dear god, i think i'm going to be a father
[09:25] <cman_> Toshiba ether lan - whatever that is.  I think its actually an intel 82xxx
[09:25] <Zelut> can the netboot installer be used for multiple releases?
[09:25] <genii> Zelut: Yes
[09:25] <Zelut> I've used the image from ubuntu to install kubuntu, but could it install 7.04 vs 7.10, etc?
[09:25] <genii> Zelut: Yes
[09:25] <maul_> how to unrar?
[09:25] <Zelut> genii: perfect, thank you.
[09:26] <cox377> hello all
[09:26] <cox377> is the command to remove something 'rm'?
[09:26] <etch64_a6km> unrar x
[09:26] <j_> cman_: let's try the easy route first; do you get any errors when running "/etc/init.d/network restart" ?
[09:26] <pike_> maul_: sudo apt-get install unrar; unrar e file.rar
[09:26] <etch64_a6km> install unrar or unrar-free
[09:26] <j_> whoops that's "networking"
[09:26] <maul_> pike_,  it does not find the package
[09:27] <maul_> unrar-free cannot unrar thefile I nee
[09:27] <maul_> d
[09:27] <musikgoat> how do i check if there is a nobody nogroup account?
[09:27] <DShepherd> !unrar
[09:27] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[09:27] <jeb> genii: can't find such a setting
[09:28] <emretemp> musikgoat: try cat /etc/group
[09:28] <genii> maul_: sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get install unrar
[09:28] <jeb> genii: BIOS version vom 2000 (American Megatrends)
[09:28] <pike_> !repos | maul_
[09:28] <ubotu> maul_: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[09:28] <cman_> no such file or directory
[09:28] <cman_> command not found
[09:28] <pike_> maul_: probably in universe or multiverse it needs to be enabled in your package manager
[09:28] <genii> jeb: OK, give me make/model of machine and I'll look for bios settings
[09:29] <pike_> maul_: see the first link ubuntu said
[09:29] <j_> cman_: /etc/init.d/networking
[09:29] <j_> cman_: I mistyped that before sorry
[09:29] <emretemp> !firewall
[09:29] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[09:29] <jeb> genii: gericom
[09:30] <jeb> genii: gericom webshox 2020
[09:30] <mutable> Hi, does anybody know how to instruct wget to write real filenames returned by some for example php function and not something like this:  site.net/getile.php&file=344?section=help ?
[09:30] <genii> jeb: Hmm. Odd name. I will look now, AFK
[09:31] <xeer> when i use my keyboard's volume control, it only effects the front speakers on my 5.1 setup. how can i get it to effect the PCM?
[09:31] <decay> how can i add a directory to $PATH, if the directory contains spaces?
 no errors
[09:31] <xeer> decay: \<space>
[09:32] <decay> xeer, quotation marks won't work, correct
[09:32] <xeer> decay: or use quotes around the path
[09:32] <j_> cman_: and does "ifconfig" show you having an IP?
[09:32] <xeer> decay: quotes for the overall $PATH, not each location
only on the wireless connection
[09:32] <pike_> xeer: keyboard volume control? now youre just being picky ;p
[09:32] <decay> xeer, i actually thought the problem were spaces, but its not. turns out i can't add dirs to $PATH. i get this error:
[09:32] <decay> bash: export: `/home/fiction/hi': not a valid identifier
also, its an intel pro 100/ve
[09:33] <j_> cman_: ok, try "tail /var/log/messages" and see if there's anything in there about the network restart
[09:33] <xeer> pike_: lol yes, so unreasonable
[09:33] <j_> ah intel == good :)
[09:34] <cman_> J_: not that says restart, but I see where it restarted
[09:34] <j_> cman_: and no errors about networking in the message log?
[09:34] <decay> and does anyone happen to know how to -delete- a path/dir from $PATH?
[09:34] <cman_> J_:no
[09:34] <j_> cman_: but it *does* show the interface through ifconfig, just not an assigned IP ?
[09:34] <cman_> yes
[09:35] <j_> cman_: weird. Let's make sure the interface is "enabled"
[09:35] <Phydoux> Can someone tell me how to format my new hard drive? It's /dev/sda
[09:35] <j_> cman_: "system->administration->network"
[09:36] <j_> cman_: the little checkbox is checked next to the interface in question?
[09:37] <brobostigon> hi
[09:37] <cman_> yes, when i just unchecked and re-checked, it d/c'ed my wireless
[09:37] <greenmanspirit> anyone have a preferred way to add countdowns to the desktop
[09:38] <j_> cman_: yeah it would try to restart networking...
[09:38] <j_> cman_: honestly I'm not sure at this point. It almost sounds like there's a hardware issue...
[09:38] <cman_> j_:thats what I was thinking
[09:38] <j_> cman_: you're system recognizes the nic fine, you can restart the card and networking, it just sorta ... doesn't work ..
[09:39] <j_> cman_: do you have a replacement?
[09:39] <cman_> j_: pretty much.  It seems like it just doesn't like the driver it has or something
[09:39] <wasabi> Having some winbind problems. Domain users logging in with GDM are not being granted their local group memberships.
[09:39] <new2ub> I installed ubuntu feisty a couple of days ago and am having issues with both my cd and mydvd drives
[09:39] <j_> cman_: that's unlikely. Intel openly publishes their specs and the nic drivers for intel are very mature
[09:40] <j_> cman_: I have had weird issues with certain onboard intel nics though. On the machine I'm no now the onboard won't leave promiscuous mode....
[09:40] <buyom> i have problem with abit motherboard after installing ubuntu when i start my comp i get messege -apic_no_apic
[09:40] <buyom> plz help
[09:40] <cman_> j_: you think bad hardware maybe?  I have a couple other 4010's, maybe it would pay to just swap the drive and see what happens
[09:41] <j_> cman_: That's what I'm thinking. If you could throw in another nic and test it that's what I would do ...
[09:41] <cman_> j_: ok, I'll give that a shot
[09:41] <cman_> j_: thanks for all your help
[09:41] <buyom> i have problem with abit motherboard after installing ubuntu when i start my comp i get messege -apic_no_apic
[09:41] <j_> cman_: cool. GL man!
[09:41] <buyom> anybody?
[09:41] <cman_> j_: thnx
[09:41] <j_> cman_: anytime :)
[09:42] <Scunizi> What do I need in Xubuntu (xfce) to view shared folders on another computer on the LAN?
[09:42] <GUETTABOB> BEZOIN DAIDE
[09:42] <IdleOne> !fr
[09:42] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:42] <buyom> you need samba
[09:42] <spinner_> If i have the compiz fuzion installed but i cannot load it how can i chekk what is wrong
[09:42] <Chops`> Hi, I am installing Ubuntu Feisty using the livecd
[09:42] <MongooseWA> how can you record/take a static image with a webcam in ubuntu?
[09:42] <lauriexxx> any body know much about SSH?
[09:42] <Roge> is there a command to boot a user out of the system ?\
[09:42] <spinner_> aka my graphic card drivers arnt correctly installed
[09:42] <Chops`> If I edit a partition, that has data on it, will the data be lost?
[09:42] <Scunizi> buyom, I have smb and nfs loaded.. I'm looking for a gui like what's in Ubuntu under Places.. it has a "Network" icon.
[09:43] <IdleOne> Chops`: i you mean resize . yes it could be lost or part of it lost
[09:43] <Chops`> My hard drive has Vista on it currently, and my hd is 181Gb, there is 61.4Gb used
[09:43] <buyom> there is soft in the pack-downloader but i don't really rmmber !@
[09:44] <a4ndr3c> exit
[09:44] <buyom> i have problem with abit motherboard after installing ubuntu when i start my comp i get messege -apic_no_apic
[09:44] <new2ub> I could use some help here.  I'm brand new to linux world and installed ubuntu 7.04   everything works great on the computer itself (I'm using it now) but my cd drive and dvd drive don't work  not sure what I'm doing wrong
[09:44] <Chops`> there is currently 8Gb of unformatted space on the ahrd drive, but I dont think that will be enough?
[09:44] <MongooseWA> how can you record/take a static image with a webcam in ubuntu?
[09:44] <C10uD> hi all
[09:44] <C10uD> i have a BIG problem!
[09:44] <IdleOne> !gparted | Chops`
[09:44] <ubotu> Chops`: GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[09:44] <Scunizi> buyom, check the bios to make sure apci is turned on.
[09:44] <brobostigon> in what sense wont your cd or dvd drive not work.??
[09:45] <Scunizi> !ident
[09:45] <Chops`> IdleOne - will that be able to resize my windows partition without losing data?
[09:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ident - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:45] <bratao> I want to pay someone to put vnc with gnome on my ubuntu server box. Please contact
[09:45] <new2ub> dvd not recognized at all....cd: everytime I put a cd in the computer freezes completly requireing a hard boot
[09:45] <buyom> Scunizi - its apic dude
[09:45] <new2ub> sorry bout spelling
[09:45] <Scunizi> buyom, oops.. don't know what that is.
[09:45] <C10uD> I drag'n'dropped a dir onto a link to an NTFS drive... gnome copied the whole dir on the drive but now opening that i see only that dir.. and says that's COMPLETELY free!!!
[09:45] <brobostigon> so can you mount a disc in the drive.
[09:46] <buyom> nmind
[09:46] <brobostigon> does it happen when you mount a disk in the drive.
[09:46] <new2ub> considering I'm linux illiterate how do you mount a drive manually
[09:46] <IdleOne> Chops`: recommended you defrag first . look at the link for the live cd there is more info
[09:46] <brobostigon> or try to read from it.
[09:46] <bratao> I want to pay someone to put vnc with gnome on my ubuntu server box. Please contact
[09:46] <zanth> I'm having trouble mounting a sata drive connected to an internal controller
[09:46] <brobostigon> mount/dev/hdx /media/cdrom
[09:46] <Chops`> IdleOne - my problem is its Vista - and the defrag utility is not graphical
[09:46] <zanth> it is apparently using the right driver...but I can't get it to mount, /dev/sde1 is the drive
[09:46] <spinner_>  i have the compiz fuzion installed but it says Desktop effects could not be enabled, im guessing it have somthin to do with my graphic drivers but how can i chk this out?
[09:47] <new2ub> ok, let me try....would I need to restart after typing that in?
[09:47] <zanth> it is using sata_inic162x as the driver for the card
[09:47] <brobostigon> no
[09:47] <new2ub> ok brb
[09:47] <opexoc> I have read few guides about user and group id and things connected with this issue, but I still wonder how can I sign some user to group I have created?
[09:47] <DShepherd> spinner_, ask in #ubuntu-effects
[09:47] <zanth> file system is ntfs, but I have 3 other drives easily automounted using ntfs, but they are using the mobo sata connections
[09:47] <spinner_> tnc
[09:48] <skinnypuppy1334> How do you get more than one active gnome session ?
[09:48] <new2ub> do I need to use the sudo command with it?
[09:48] <skinnypuppy1334> j/ #suse
[09:48] <brobostigon> to mont, you need to use sudo
[09:48] <new2ub> ok
[09:48] <brobostigon> i mean to mount, you need to use sudo
[09:48] <opexoc> I have read few guides about user and group id and things connected with this issue, but I still wonder how can I sign some user to group I have created?
[09:49] <new2ub> ok it says command not fount
[09:49] <new2ub> found
[09:49] <C10uD> I drag'n'dropped a dir onto a link to an NTFS drive... gnome copied the whole dir on the drive but now opening that i see only that dir.. and says that's COMPLETELY free!!!
[09:49] <mzuverink> anyone else unable to connect to gmail?
[09:49] <brobostigon> mount /dev/hdx /media/cdrom
[09:49] <erUSUL> opexoc: System>Administration>User and groups ??
[09:49] <DShepherd> opexoc, vim /etc/groups and you can add users to that group. That's one way of doing it
[09:49] <MongooseWA> nope, gmail works for me
[09:49] <buyom> anybody about apic problem?>
[09:49] <new2ub> I typed that in exactly and that is what it did
[09:50] <new2ub> mzuverink; I was able to connect to gmail without a problem
[09:50] <buyom>     
[09:50] <erUSUL> !hw
[09:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hw - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:50] <mzuverink> Thanks all
[09:50] <IdleOne> !he
[09:50] <erUSUL> !he
[09:50] <MongooseWA> how can you record/take a static image with a webcam in ubuntu?
[09:50] <new2ub> mzuverink; np
[09:50] <buyom>    
[09:50] <ubotu>         :
[09:50] <ubotu> /join #ubuntu-il
[09:51] <brobostigon> sudo mount /dev/hdx /mdia/cdrom , replace hdx with the drive of your cdrom, and /media/cdrom with its mount point.
[09:51] <silent> how do I add multiple essid's to my interfaces file and swith between them (as I move location)
[09:51] <new2ub> how would I know the drive....I'm only familar with windows environment and there it would be drive G
[09:51] <Scunizi> buyom, http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/APIC
[09:51] <buyom>   
[09:52] <opexoc> DShepherd: thx
[09:52] <DShepherd> opexoc, no prob
[09:52] <erUSUL> buyom: only english here please... we can not understand you
[09:52] <termitor> hello , some splashy users here ?
[09:53] <brobostigon> on my laptop the drive for the cdrom is hdc, and its mount point is /media/cdrom0, you will have to find out what applies to your machine.
[09:53] <brobostigon> run dmesg in cli, and it will tell you.
[09:53] <c2asr> ciao
[09:54] <new2ub> with dmesg....what am I looking for....there's alot there
[09:54] <brobostigon> you cdrom drive.
[09:55] <zanth> if I see /dev/sde1 in fdisk -l should I not be able to mount it?  I try to...and I have permission denied, if I cd to it as root, I can
[09:55] <zanth> but an ls shows an i/o error
[09:55] <c2asr> qualcuno sa per favore il motivo per cui la pen wireless belkin non va su ubuntu 7.04
[09:55] <genii> jeb: Webshox model 241s1 ?
[09:57] <Hilikus> should i create users for each daemon runing on my server? like 1 for apache, 1 for sshd, etc? right now for instance the sshd is owned by root, is that a security risk?
[09:57] <c2asr> hello
[09:57] <HClO> yo
[09:57] <new2ub> this is the only thing I've found listed :    hdd: CD-532E-B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM
[09:58] <c2asr> why belkin wireless dont' work in linux ubuntu 7.04
[09:58] <new2ub> never mind....found the other one....which means they are both here....(recognized).....
[09:58] <new2ub>  hdd: ATAPI 32X CD-ROM drive,
[09:58] <Meroigo> Hello, I have set up dual monitors and have configured xorg.conf so the dual monitors works as they should. but the screen that outputs from DVI have crazy and totally wrong colors, but the one that outputs from VGA is totally normal. have tried switching the screen in the different outputs, but both have the same problem. Someone that know how to fix this?
[09:59] <jeb> genii: no, 2020
[09:59] <Kchaka> Hello all. My dad is just on installing Ubuntu for the first time, and he wants to resize his windows partition to free up some space for an Ubuntu partition. But the option for re-sizing in the Live CD installer isn't there. It always has been there for me but not for him. This is Ubuntu 7.04. Anyone got any idea's?
[09:59] <TitanLinux> please chanel spanish ubuntu??
[09:59] <brobostigon> so it marks you xcdrom as hdd.
[09:59] <MongooseWA> #ubuntu-esp
[09:59] <MongooseWA> wait no
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[09:59] <MongooseWA> no no that's not the right channel
[09:59] <MongooseWA> lol
[10:00] <MongooseWA> there is one though
[10:00] <new2ub> looks like my dvd as well
[10:00] <brobostigon> they are usually the same
[10:00] <brobostigon> if they are in he same drive
[10:00] <MongooseWA> TitanLinux, its #ubuntu-es
[10:01] <c2asr> how con install belkin wireless usb in ubuntu 7.04
[10:01] <Meroigo> maybe a reboot fixes it.. brb
[10:01] <riotkittie> #ubuntu-es MongooseWA
[10:01] <new2ub> two different ones./..and is the mount point you were talking about the numbers before the listing?
[10:01] <brobostigon> sudo mount /dev/hdd /mountpoint
[10:02] <riotkittie> Kchaka: i'm no really sure. is the ntfs drive mounted?
[10:02] <hagna> is it safe to apt-get more than one package at once?
[10:02] <TitanLinux> MongooseWA> thanks
[10:02] <brobostigon> what the mount point for you cdrom
[10:02] <LjL> hagna: yes.
[10:02] <MongooseWA> TitanLinux, no problem
[10:02] <hagna> LjL: nice gentoo emerge doesn't do that
[10:03] <new2ub> is the mount point this: ?  [   29.722891] 
[10:03] <LjL> hagna: i mean - as long as you do it with *one* apt-get command.
[10:03] <DShepherd> new2ub, what are you trying to do?
[10:03] <zeroflag> how can I see whether X and GDM are running?
[10:03] <brobostigon> ave a look at the folders in /media
[10:03] <hagna> LjL: ok so you can't apt-get in one shell and apt-get in another at the same time
[10:03] <new2ub> DShepherd; to get my cd and dvd drives to work
[10:03] <LjL> hagna: no
[10:03] <zeroflag> (I don't have a monitor attached, I need to forward it over vnc but I have no idea what it's doing)
[10:04] <LjL> hagna: that *would* be unsafe if it worked, but it just won't. it'll give you an error complaining that APT is already running.
[10:04] <brobostigon> as long as they re mounted properly they should work propely
[10:04] <rayniac> holas
[10:04] <LjL> zeroflag: what interface do you *have*?
[10:05] <genii> jeb: the webshox 2020 comes in these submodels: 34BS2, 241S1, 34AS1, 35AS1
[10:05] <jeb> genii: 34AS6
[10:06] <genii> jeb: OK
[10:07] <IdleOne> ikonia: you around?
[10:08] <yaser> genii, I get this error in Gutsy but not in Feisty,any idea? MATLAB: xcb_xlib.c:50: xcb_xlib_unlock: Assertion `c->xlib.lock' failed.
[10:08] <DShepherd> new2ub, what is your drive not doing?
[10:08] <DShepherd> new2ub, is it not 'seeing' the cds and dvds that you put in your disc drive tray?
[10:09] <genii> yaser: No idea. I'd email MATLAB if you have a legitimate copy
[10:09] <brobostigon> i was putting him trough how to solve it, by properly mounting his cdrm.
[10:09] <yaser> genii, ok
[10:10] <DShepherd> brobostigon, ok.
[10:10] <DShepherd> brobostigon, seems he's busy right now.
[10:10] <Meroigo> nice, reboot worked. (if someone read my previous message). But.. how can I get duplicate of all gnome panels on the other screen (i have dual screens if someone missed it)? and how can I make Take Screenshot take screenshot of both the screens, merged? It only takes a screenshot of the left screen, then there is just empty space on the right side of the picture where the right screen's picture should be.
[10:10] <rincevent> taverne
[10:10] <yaser> genii, but dont you think it looks more like Gutsy problem?
[10:10] <new2ub> DShepherd, dvd doesn't do anything and the cd when I put a data cd in freezes my computer completely requireing a hard boot
[10:10] <brobostigon> i think so.
[10:10] <barbarianhero> hi, using gdm/gnome desktop does anyone if there is a place I can put a script locally taht will be run on logout? (i.e. not when i open a terminal, I'm using a .xsession in my home directory to start some things, and I would like an equivalent script to run when i logout of my gnome session)
[10:11] <yaser> genii, but dont you think it looks more like a Gutsy problem?
[10:11] <brobostigon> i cant help then new2yb, i have no idea.
[10:11] <genii> yaser: Ask in #ubuntu+1 then
[10:11] <DShepherd> new2ub, this happens for ever cd and dvd you put in the drive?
[10:11] <new2ub> every data cd
[10:11] <brobostigon> why it would freeze on mount.
[10:11] <DShepherd> brobostigon, i dont know..
[10:11] <new2ub> it does something completely different with audio cds
[10:12] <DShepherd> new2ub, what does it do with audio cds?
[10:12] <barbarianhero> This is basically a time clock script that i have to run at work that I am constantly forgetting to run, so I have the clock in in .xsession, so whenever I login to ggnome it clocks me in, now i just need one to clock me out when i logout :)
[10:12] <new2ub> it won't play them (can't hear) but the program to play music comes up and recognizes everything
[10:12] <yaser> genii, no body knows there, and i think Gutsy is almost Ubuntu now
[10:13] <Heman> Hello, I cant see the top of the windows, so I can't minimize the windows without right clicking...
[10:13] <Heman> Help pls
[10:13] <preaction> Heman, using beryl/emerald i assume? can you see the beryl-manager icon?
[10:13] <DShepherd> new2ub, your drive has worked before.. correct?
[10:14] <new2ub> when I had XP yes
[10:14] <DShepherd> brobostigon, any ideas?
[10:14] <Heman> preaction: im using compiz-fusion but fusion icon isn't installed and I don't have emerald atm
[10:14] <DShepherd> Heman, ask in #ubuntu-effects
[10:14] <brobostigon> i dont, i have no ideas.
[10:14] <acomaco> is linux-util the same as util-linux?
[10:14] <preaction> Heman, most likely something failed to load, #ubuntu-effects can help you better
[10:14] <yaser> I dont see the start menu anywhere, where is My PC?
[10:15] <new2ub> lol......new I'd have trouble   the install was way too easy LOL
[10:15] <DShepherd> new2ub, going to ask my good friend google about your problem. Can you give me a few minutes or so?
[10:15] <acomaco> Or do linux-util even exist?
[10:15] <acomaco> can't find anything on google
[10:15] <DShepherd> new2ub, :-)
[10:15] <new2ub> sure in no hurry here
[10:15] <brobostigon> maybe hey arent being accessed propely
[10:15] <rayniac> how can i conect to irc-hispano ?
[10:15] <DShepherd> new2ub, watch some tv or something. it may ease the pain some what?
[10:15] <Draggin> Hello again! More questions - I am having trouble setting up a programme - I receive this error at the end of running ./configure : checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[10:15] <DShepherd> -?
[10:16] <Heman> preaction: ok thankyou
[10:16] <deb64a6km> try to install xorg-dev
[10:16] <Heman> dsheperd: thanks aswell
[10:16] <Draggin> edb64a6km - was that answer for me?
[10:16] <deb64a6km> yes
[10:16] <blue|palm> whenever i run an opengl program, this happens: http://img338.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotogrerenderwinyg7.png and i have an nvidia card using drivers from the restricted driver manager...
[10:17] <salvator1> does anybody know how to install a .jar file?
[10:17] <bruenig> java -jar whatever.jar
[10:17] <new2ub> DShepherd, LOL
[10:17] <blue|palm> salvator1, it depends what the jar file contains
[10:17] <deb64a6km> java -jar /path/to/jar-file
[10:18] <Draggin> deb64a6km - was that answer for me?
[10:18] <salvator1> Thank you, I'll try that
[10:18] <bruenig> you don't really install it, you just run it
[10:18] <Draggin> deb64a6km - the one about xorg-dev
[10:18] <Drad1k`work> I am trying to move maps from one of my hard drives into the maps folder for counter strike source. I can't get into the folder, because the permissions are denied.. how can I make it so I can copy and paste the server in?
[10:18] <lmosher> Can anyone suggest a good media player? I've heard things about amarok, but there's a ton of crap to install to get it to work in gnome. Any player that's nicer than rhythmbox that runs in gnome?
[10:18] <DShepherd> new2ub, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[10:18] <brobostigon> xmms
[10:19] <blue|palm> lmosher, sure, also try banshee
[10:19] <Scunizi> lmosher, banshee
[10:19] <DShepherd> lmosher, exaile is alot like amaraok
[10:19] <DShepherd> !exaile
[10:19] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[10:19] <blue|palm> lmosher, there are loads...
[10:19] <bruenig> cmus is good
[10:19] <deb64a6km> the X.Org X Window System development libraries
[10:19] <damjan> Hi, why I can't see any flash movies on websites like youtube on firefox, when I click on the movies says i don't have plugins, but I have the latest, and when I close the tab the whole firefox is crashing, p.s it is the latest version. Now how can I see flash movies?
[10:19] <bruenig> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cmus
[10:19] <skinnypuppy1334> WHat has a good EQ ?
[10:19] <blue|palm> whenever i run an opengl program, this happens: http://img338.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotogrerenderwinyg7.png and i have an nvidia card using drivers from the restricted driver manager...
[10:19] <brobostigon> xmms
[10:19] <bruenig> damjan, open firefox and go to about:config and tell us what it says about flash
[10:20] <lmosher> thanks blue|palm, Scunizi, DShepherd :)
[10:20] <damjan> bruenig, just a second
[10:20] <DShepherd> lmosher, your welcome. come back with again.. bring friends :-D
[10:20] <DShepherd> -with
[10:21] <damjan> it says crash :)
[10:21] <damjan> it crashed
[10:21] <bruenig> do it again..
[10:21] <Drad1k`work> I am trying to move maps from one of my hard drives into the maps folder for counter strike source. I can't get into the folder, because the permissions are denied.. how can I make it so I can copy and paste the server in?
[10:21] <damjan> bruenig, i will start it again
[10:21] <unimatrix9> is there an irc channel for ubuntu macbook?
[10:21] <new2ub> DShepherd, sorry bout that I have Feisty 7.04 on here
[10:21] <brobostigon> ubuntu-powerpc
[10:21] <blue|palm> Drad1k`work, do you know how to use a terminal and the sudo command?
[10:21] <meoblast001> hello
[10:21] <DShepherd> new2ub, ok
[10:21] <unimatrix9> intel versions?
[10:21] <unimatrix9> go there too?
[10:22] <damjan> bruenig, in terminal I see> /usr/share/themes/Blubuntu/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:169: Clearlooks configuration option "progressbarstyle" is not supported and will be ignored.
[10:22] <DShepherd> new2ub, fully uptodate?
[10:22] <Drad1k`work> yes.. but im trying to do do it gui style.. i dont know how to copy and paste with commands
[10:22] <bruenig> damjan, I don't care
[10:22] <Draggin> Hmmm... I'm still confused - I don't know if the semi-cryptic answer was directed at me...
[10:22] <meoblast001> what option do you use to download all files in a directory with wget (html)? also, how do you add applications to keyboard shortcuts?
[10:22] <bruenig> damjan, switch to another theme if you think that is the problem, I was trying to help with flash
[10:22] <blue|palm> Drad1k`work, open up a terminal, type 'sudo nautilus' without the quotes and then enter your password... that nautilus then has complete power (Be careful)
[10:22] <salvator1> Having a little trouble here, I can't seem how to keep running aplications on the top panel. When I first was using ubuntu I could close out of applications like gaim, and they would still be on the top panel. Now if I close out of them, they shut down
[10:23] <bruenig> meoblast001, you can't with gnome because doing that is obviously so baffling that no user would understand it
[10:23] <damjan> bruenig, what string to see in config again
[10:23] <bruenig> damjan, about:plugins, look for flash
[10:23] <meoblast001> bruenig: it could actually be as easy as just putting in a terminal command
[10:24] <new2ub> DShepherd, as far as I know, yes
[10:24] <damjan> bruenig, Flash Movie player Version 0.4.12 compatible with Shockwave Flash 4.0
[10:24] <DShepherd> new2ub, what kind a machine you have?
[10:24] <new2ub> AMD 64
[10:24] <bruenig> meoblast001, a joke on  how gnome is so limited, you will need an external app if you intend to use gnome, xbindkeys perhaps
[10:24] <bruenig> damjan, right, that's not the correct flash
[10:24] <DShepherd> new2ub, hmm.. its the ubuntu 64 bit version you installed?
[10:25] <damjan> bruenig, how can I fix It
[10:25] <bruenig> !find mozplugin
[10:25] <ubotu> Found: libflash-mozplugin
[10:25] <bruenig> damjan, do sudo apt-get remove libflash-mozplugin
[10:25] <new2ub> DShepherd, I don't know....was that an important factor?
[10:25] <damjan> I have it
[10:25] <meoblast001> bruenig: ok... now how does one download all files in an HTTP directory with wget?
[10:25] <DShepherd> new2ub, not sure
[10:25] <yaser> Any one here unfortunate enough to have a Motorola dial up modem?
[10:26] <bruenig> meoblast001, I would script it myself, but you can try some recursive/spider options and see if they work
[10:26] <bruenig> meoblast001, link?
[10:26] <Drad1k`work> now that i used sudo nautilus .. how do i find my accounts folders?
[10:26] <damjan> bruenig, with dpkg -s it says installed
[10:26] <bruenig> damjan, remove it
[10:26] <meoblast001> bruenig: link???
[10:26] <bruenig> meoblast001, to your page
[10:26] <damjan> bruenig, ok
[10:26] <genii> jeb: After some extensive research I'm pretty certain you can safely do the same for the trm290 driver as for the i82365 driver. It is an older one for Tekram IDE controller.
[10:26] <CarlF1> yaser: not sure.  I just stuffed 3 pci modems in a box.  gonna see if I can get any of them to work
[10:27] <meoblast001> bruenig: http://teacherweb.com/OH/McDonaldJrSrHighSchool/MrsDolsak/photo6.stm
[10:27] <meoblast001> its for school
[10:27] <yaser> CarlF1, you found some tutorial about drivers?
[10:27] <new2ub> DShepherd, it's the Opteron cpu that I have....not sure if it's 64 bit but it says AMD 64 Opteron
[10:27] <bruenig> meoblast001, you want all those notes links?
[10:27] <meoblast001> yes
[10:27] <CarlF1> yaser: so.. where is the latest 'modem detection magic' ?
[10:27] <damjan> bruenig, done
[10:27] <DShepherd> new2ub, ok
[10:27] <genii> work again, AFK
[10:27] <CarlF1> yaser: I have seen something over a year ago
[10:27] <arod> just upgraded from feisty to gg. now gutsy's aptitude marks upgradable packages as hold. any idea?
[10:28] <damjan> bruenig, what next?
[10:28] <yaser> CarlF1, take me to the light!!
[10:28] <damjan> bruenig, nice it says version 9 now
[10:29] <damjan> bruenig, thanks it works
[10:30] <bruenig> calm down
[10:31] <zanth> anybody willing to help me with a mounting problem? I have it detailed here: http://preview.tinyurl.com/2p4pav
[10:32] <Goop> does anyone know the best broswer to use in ubuntu? I've heard Firefox is a pain with Flash
[10:32] <Goop> *browser
[10:32] <pike_> zanth: that tinyurl points to another thread on ubuntuforums
[10:32] <Meroigo> how can I make "take screenshot" also include my secondary screen in the screenshot?
[10:33] <zanth> pike_, yeah it is the preview I posted
[10:33] <zanth> just so that folks didn't think I was spamming
[10:33] <zanth> there is a "follow link to site"
[10:33] <zanth> easier to post ther enad have it all outlined
[10:34] <zanth> but here I have higher volume of active eyes hopefully willing to help
[10:34] <gea> hello, i am installing ubuntu server, how much space do i give for lvm partiton?
[10:34] <DShepherd> new2ub, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cdparanoia/+bug/106000 -- this might be related to your bug. I am not sure though
[10:34] <pike_> zanth: nm i didnt paste entire ubuntuforums link. ended up somewhere else
[10:34] <zanth> ah ok
[10:34] <CarlF1> yaser:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[10:35] <new2ub> DShepherd, going to it now
[10:36] <chalcedony> good day to you all
[10:36] <shai_> irc://irc.gnu.org/freevo
[10:37] <Goop> does anyone know the best broswer to use in ubuntu? I've heard Firefox is a pain with Flash
[10:37] <LjL> !best
[10:37] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[10:37] <LjL> Goop: "Firefox".
[10:37] <IdleOne> !flash
[10:37] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[10:37] <SlimeyPete> Goop: Firefox works better with flash than any of the others do
[10:37] <chalcedony> i'm guessing that since I upgraded to Feisty, something got messed up in the path to save messages until later to send them. i just did zz and told it to Postpone this message? ([yes] /no): <chalcedony> yes .. but i'm not finding it in the directory.. where is it?
[10:37] <radioman_> Opera rocks!
[10:37] <SlimeyPete> go	how
[10:37] <SlimeyPete> ever
[10:37] <bascule> Goop: actually proprietary flash is a pain with firefox
[10:37] <zanth> pike_, were you able to get to the link?  any suggestions?
[10:38] <help> hi i need some help
[10:38] <Goop> bascule: so if I use Ubuntu then I should use open-source flash player clones?
[10:39] <IdleOne> !flash > Goop ( see msg from ubotu )
[10:39] <bascule> Goop: they are annoying to, youtube is the real problem I have encountered with flash, everything else seems fine
[10:39] <pike_> zanth: it seems a little odd.  what about something like 'sudo umount /dev/sde1; mount -o umask=000 /dev/sde1 /media/iTunes'
[10:39] <help1> i cant connect to the internet on my ubuntu machine
[10:39] <new2ub> DShepherd, it might be related, but it also said in the thread that it was only with Edgy.....Feisty didn't have that problem?
[10:39] <chalcedony> i reworded that
[10:39] <chalcedony> i'm guessing that since I upgraded to Feisty, in mutt, something got messed up in the path to save messages until later to send them. i just did zz and told it to Postpone this message? ([yes] /no): yes .. but i'm not finding it in the directory.. where is it? or how to find it?
[10:39] <ylle> for graphical editing with root privileges I write what?
[10:40] <LjL> !gksudo > ylle    (ylle, see the private message from Ubotu)
[10:40] <jeb> genii: thx, i'll try it
[10:40] <pike_> zanth: which wont work because i just saw you already tried to mount it
[10:40] <pike_> zanth: dunno
[10:40] <jeb> gnii: but doing other stuff right now
[10:40] <new2ub> DSHepherd, could this be that I just downloaded and installed the wrong type of feisty for this computer?  I'm pretty sure I downloaded the first choice which wasn't the 64 bit
[10:41] <MoRRokoTroko2> hola
[10:41] <zanth> thanks for your effort pike
[10:41] <ylle> LjL:  but I'm in gutsy, wasn't it changed like in kubuntu gutsy?
[10:41] <zanth> it may be that it is a driver issue
[10:41] <chalcedony> hi MoRRokoTroko2
[10:41] <help1> could someone help me connect to the internet on my ubuntu machine
[10:41] <lan> gabrielmarciomartins
[10:41] <gnomefreak> ylle: #ubuntu+1 for gutsy
[10:42] <stuarthowlettebs> out of interest, has anyone tried using the linux mint repository on feisty at all
[10:42] <DShepherd> new2ub, yeah.. try the 64 bit for fiesty. that could help
[10:42] <radioman_> help1, you are connected well, i can see You ;D
[10:42] <help1> im using one of my other comps
[10:42] <IdleOne> stuarthowlettebs: what does that repo have that the ubuntu repos doesnt?
[10:42] <trez> Hi there, what should I do if I regulary get kernel Oops? lately 5 times a day :(
[10:42] <pike_> zanth: this ntfs formatted in vista or xp?
[10:42] <stuarthowlettebs> xorg-edit
[10:42] <DShepherd> new2ub, http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/
[10:42] <help1> the laptop with ubuntu cant connect
[10:42] <lavender_dream> I have a tar.bz2 file in my home folder, I installed build-essentials and was wondering what the next step is... I tried sudo make but nothing worked, says: "No targets specified and no makefile found."
[10:43] <IdleOne> stuarthowlettebs: and that does?
[10:43] <stuarthowlettebs> a gui for editing xorg.conf
[10:43] <river> Hello, is there a way to batch convert odt files to doc?
[10:43] <stuarthowlettebs> same as gutsy has i guess
[10:43] <stuarthowlettebs> maybe the precursor to it
[10:43] <nickren> how can some try to go to this link
[10:43] <nickren> http://news.google.com/nwshp?tab=wn
[10:43] <stuarthowlettebs> just wanted to have a play round
[10:43] <LjL> ylle: i really don't think so. anyway, #ubuntu+1 for gutsy.
[10:43] <nickren> did google just go down for like 5 minutes
[10:44] <chalcedony> i'm guessing that since I upgraded to Feisty, in mutt, something got messed up in the path to save messages until later to send them. i just did zz and told it to Postpone this message? ([yes] /no): yes .. but i'm not finding it in the directory.. where is it? or how to find it?
[10:44] <DShepherd> new2ub, goodluck. hope that helps
[10:44] <Crush`> anyone know how to make screenshots appear in my home directory and not on the desktop?
[10:45] <nickren> can anybody get to google?
[10:45] <stuarthowlettebs> nick: working fine for me
[10:45] <stuh84> .com and .co.uk work fine here
[10:45] <riotkittie> lavender_dream: if youre trying to compile something, uncompress that bz2  .... tar bvf <file>  *i think* .. if not bunzip2 file then tar xvf it
[10:46] <CarlF1> 3 head box.  is there a command to change resolution on one head without restarting X?
[10:46] <new2ub> DShepherd, I'm downloading the right one now, I have one concern though.......I had a working dvd/cd burner when I did this the first time....I don't now......when You can't do it that way, what is the alternative?
[10:46] <nickren> was weird, any other site i tried to get ping i got 100% packets but google would not load and only 65% of the packets come through
[10:47] <lavender_dream> riotkittie: thank you for the response, i uncompressed it but i don't know what you mean by tar xvf it
[10:47] <DShepherd> new2ub, oh..good point...*thinking*
[10:47] <stuh84> nick: only thing i can think of is something is messed in your hosts file, hell could even be your isp
[10:47] <riotkittie> lavender_dream:  tar xvf will uncompress. but thats irrelevant  if its been extracted
[10:47] <DShepherd> new2ub, no other computer nearby?
[10:47] <stuh84> i used to work for one where some people could only access about 2 different websites and that was it
[10:47] <shai_> helllo?
[10:48] <new2ub> DShepherd, no.....if I disappear....I'll be back lol
[10:48] <DShepherd> new2ub, lol...  ok
[10:48] <riotkittie> lavender_dream: what are you trynig to compile?
[10:48] <nickren> odd
[10:48] <eichi> hello, where is the folder apt-get fetches the packages?
[10:48] <riotkittie> oh lord i cannot type.
[10:49] <lavender_dream> riotkittie: okay i extracted it, it's in my home folder, now when i type sudo make in the terminal, i still get "No targets specified and no makefile found." i'm trying to compile a usb dongle (nintendo wifi connector to be specific) driver
[10:49] <stuh84> out of interest, i may just be being ignorant, but does anyone know the official date gutsy is supposed to go live
[10:49] <DShepherd> eichi, /var/cache/apt/archives/
[10:49] <dgjones> stuh84, 18th
[10:49] <stuh84> sexy, thanks :)
[10:50] <GodOfWalmart> how can I compile something from SVN that doesn't have a configure script?
[10:50] <GodOfWalmart> nor an autogen
[10:50] <riotkittie> lavender_dream: you shouldnt need to make as sudo. make install, perhaps, but rarely  make. uhmmm. try typing ./configure and seeing if that does anything?
[10:50] <DShepherd> Crusher, on pressing printscreen you can change the 'Save in folder' to whereever you like. It will default to there the next time you choose to take a screeshot
[10:50] <LjL> GodOfWalmart, it depends. not everything uses autoconf. it surely comes with an INSTALL file?
[10:50] <CarlF1> GodOfWalmart: is there a .deb for an older version ?
[10:50] <GodOfWalmart> no
[10:50] <GodOfWalmart> to both
[10:50] <GodOfWalmart> dvdrtools is what I'm trying to install
[10:50] <CarlF1> GodOfWalmart: then the easy answer is: gcc foo.c
[10:51] <lavender_dream> riotkittie: "bash: ./configure: No such file or directory" same with ./config
[10:51] <GodOfWalmart> it has a ./configure.ac
[10:51] <LjL> !info dvdrtools gutsy | GodOfWalmart
[10:51] <Shaffer> Hello
[10:51] <CarlF1> GodOfWalmart: or, read the README.  or: ask the author.
[10:51] <ubotu> godofwalmart: dvdrtools: DVD writing program. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.3.1-3 (gutsy), package size 128 kB, installed size 304 kB
[10:51] <GodOfWalmart> where can I get it?
[10:51] <DShepherd> Crusher, oops. i mean Crush. but he left. sorry
[10:51] <GodOfWalmart> is it backported?
[10:51] <riotkittie> lavender_dream: at this point, i'm lost. is there a README? :|
[10:51] <lavender_dream> riotkittie: make and make install both gives me: make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[10:51] <LjL> GodOfWalmart: actually, i said Gutsy (since you said there was no Feisty package), but there *is* a feisty package.
[10:52] <riotkittie> brb.
[10:52] <LjL> !info dvdrtools feisty | GodOfWalmart
[10:52] <ubotu> godofwalmart: dvdrtools: DVD writing program. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.3.1-1 (feisty), package size 127 kB, installed size 308 kB
[10:52] <GodOfWalmart> my bad
[10:52] <Rageon> !ftp
[10:52] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[10:52] <LjL> GodOfWalmart: so, just install it like any other program that comes from the repositories.
[10:52] <blue|fox> Hello :> Does anyone know how long 7.04 will continue to be supported after the release of the upcoming version?
[10:52] <GodOfWalmart> I started looking for dvdrecord because that's what the program said it needed
[10:52] <Rageon> anyone recommend a ftp server?
[10:52] <stuh84> october 2008 blue
[10:52] <GodOfWalmart> and dvdrecord sent me to dvdrtools and I didn't think to check the repos
[10:52] <bruenig> !ftpd
[10:52] <ubotu> FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd, !MuddleFTPd, !wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[10:52] <blue|fox> stuh84: Thanks
[10:52] <Rageon> ty
[10:52] <Shaffer> Can I have some help?
[10:52] <DShepherd> blue|fox, 18 months from 7.04 release date i think
[10:53] <Shaffer> I am just starting Ubuntu now, I just booted it off the cd.
[10:53] <Shaffer> Now what do I do?
[10:53] <Shaffer> Thanks.
[10:53] <kdub432> Rageon: if you plan on distributing ALOT of files, then yes. the command scp is a lot better for transferring specific files between computers though...
[10:53] <blue|fox> Thanks, that's great :> Plenty of time to test things before moving my system over
[10:53] <bruenig> GodTodd, dvdrecord is part of cdrkit or cdrtools depending which you have and dvdrtools I assume you are talking about dvd+rw-tools
[10:53] <stuh84> blue: fyi all the standard releases are 18 months supported
[10:53] <stuh84> LTS's are 3 years
[10:53] <Rageon> can i use command scp to send files from linux to windows?
[10:54] <Shaffer> Hello, can someone please help me?
[10:54] <Rageon> !pureadmin
[10:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pureadmin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:54] <LjL> !scp | Rageon
[10:54] <ubotu> Rageon: SCP is a secure way of copying files across networks using !SSH. Usage: scp filename user@host:filename - WinSCP is a client for Windows, available at http://winscp.net/
[10:54] <SlimeyPete> Rageon: not without installing an ssh server on windows. However you can use winscp to pull the files over using the Windows box.
[10:54] <lavender_dream> riotkittie: in the readme there is an installatoin process: For 2.4 or 2.6 series kernel: a. $tar -xvzf rt2570-x.x.x.tar.gz go to "./rt2570-x.x.x/Module" directory. b. $make # compile driver source code c. $make install # installs kernel module driver d. $modprobe rt2570 (rt2470 is the name of the driver)
[10:54] <DShepherd> Shaffer, it depends.. what do you want to do?
[10:54] <pike_> Shaffer: whats the problem?
[10:55] <Shapeshifter> is there a way to improve some of the gnome dialogs, e.g. making them bigger and more "useful". I mean seriously who ever made the layout for this http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/7751/saveasiy2.png seems to never have actually used it. It's horribly inconvenient how small the area with the folder is and how much blank unused space is inbetween the meaningful stuff
[10:55] <Rageon> i wanna do some reading on ssh before i start using it.. anyone know if pure admin will do the job for my ftp purposes?
[10:55] <Shaffer> Hey, I just booted me CD for the first time.
[10:55] <riotkittie> rt2750. sweet jesus. <weeps>
[10:55] <kdub432> Shapeshifter: I absolutely agree. lets go hack the code up
[10:55] <Jesus> ?
[10:55] <LjL> !info rt2570-source | lavender_dream, is there a specific reason why you're using the tar instead of the package?
[10:56] <Shaffer> What do I do?
[10:56] <ubotu> lavender_dream, is there a specific reason why you're using the tar instead of the package?: rt2570-source: RT2570 wireless network drivers source. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1.0+cvs20061210-1 (feisty), package size 247 kB, installed size 312 kB
[10:56] <riotkittie> lavender_dream: at this point, i'm not really sure what to tell you if that's not working :|
[10:56] <Edd> can anyone help me out with my ultimate ubuntu broadcom wireless card problem
[10:56] <stuh84> which broadcom wireless card you got
[10:57] <Shapeshifter> kdub432: I mean linux is nice and so on but this is seriously inconvenient ^^ is there something else I could do besides switching to kde or something like that?
[10:57] <P_Kable> asny virtualbox expert here ?
[10:57] <P_Kable> any*
[10:57] <LjL> !anyone
[10:57] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:57] <Edd> broadcom 802.11 b/g
[10:57] <stuh84> edd
[10:57] <stuh84> open up a terminal
[10:57] <stuh84> and do an lspci
[10:57] <Shapeshifter> P_Kable: why an expert? Im using it at least
[10:57] <stuh84> the one which says broadcom
[10:57] <stuh84> copy the whole line
[10:57] <Shaffer> How do I PM?
[10:57] <stuh84> theres different versions, and some are harder to set up than others
[10:58] <LjL> Shaffer: /msg nickname message - but you must be registered.
[10:58] <Shaffer> Oh, how do I register?
[10:58] <Riyonuk> Is there a minimal install for ubuntu? Someone told me it was server, but I want desktop :/
[10:58] <LadyNikon> !register
[10:58] <heydabop> I'm tryiing to compile something, when I type make into the terminal, it says make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[10:58] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[10:58] <Shaffer> !register
[10:58] <heydabop> What do I do?
[10:58] <Shaffer> !register
[10:58] <LadyNikon> Shaffer: see the link
[10:58] <LjL> Riyonuk: "minimal desktop"?
[10:58] <LadyNikon> dont use the trigger command
[10:58] <Shapeshifter> lol
[10:58] <riotkittie> ... /msg nickserv register <pw>  /msg nickserv help register
[10:58] <kdub432> Shapeshifter: I've never really thought about the file dialogs, but here on my debian box, the file chooser looks right. i'll file a launchpad wishlist bug
[10:58] <preaction> Riyonuk, server is the minimal install, you can add a desktop to it: "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[10:58] <P_Kable> Shapeshifter=>  I had a crash with one of my VMs and I cannot start it again ... all the options to mount volumes on the right are also unavailable ... do you know the command to stop the VM please ?
[10:58] <LadyNikon> anyone know of a good place to get help with TCSH?
[10:58] <nicolai__> gn8
[10:58] <help1> f
[10:59] <help1> f
[10:59] <help1> f
[10:59] <help1> f
[10:59] <help1> f
[10:59] <help1> f
[10:59] <help1> f
[10:59] <help1> f
[10:59] <P_Kable> kick
[10:59] <help1> f
[10:59] <help1> f
[10:59] <unicode> !firewall
[10:59] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[10:59] <help1> f
[10:59] <help1> f
[10:59] <stuh84> edd: you find it?
[10:59] <DShepherd> Shaffer, are you live cd now? Are you trying to install ubuntu?
[10:59] <Edd> 06.20.0 Network Controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [Airforce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[10:59] <stuh84> aha
[10:59] <stuh84> 4318
[10:59] <LjL> P_Kable: use the "!ops" command in emergency cases like that (and ONLY in those), saying "kick" is unlikely to help
[10:59] <stuh84> sexy, same one i've got
[10:59] <riotkittie> LjL is my hero. <swoon>
[10:59] <Shapeshifter> kdub432: your dialog looks different than mine?
[11:00] <stuh84> right bear with me a sec, theres a script for doing it
[11:00] <heydabop> I'm trying to set something up, but when I type make into the terminal, it says make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[11:00] <Shapeshifter> P_Kable: can't you just turn it off from inside the tool?
[11:00] <P_Kable> nope
[11:00] <stuh84> edd: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102&highlight=broadcom+4318
[11:00] <P_Kable> Shapeshifter=>  no
[11:00] <P_Kable> that's my problem Shapeshifter
[11:00] <Riyonuk> What exactly is ubuntu-desktop? Cause I want gnome, but without totem music player, etc
[11:01] <stuh84> ubuntu desktop is just a meta package linking to all the files for a default ubuntu install
[11:01] <stuh84> should be able to get by with sudo apt-get install gdm
[11:01] <Rageon> !ftpd
[11:01] <ubotu> FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd, !MuddleFTPd, !wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[11:01] <LjL> Riyonuk: then install the "gnome" package after installing ubuntu-minimal. or install ubuntu-desktop and then remove the stuff you don't want.
[11:01] <Riyonuk> so...wouldnt that defeat the purpose?
[11:01] <lavender_dream> Okay to be clear: I'd like to install a driver for my USB Wifi Connector (it's for Nintendo DS) but since the device isn't supported for Linux I had to dig around to find a workable driver for it. From ubuntu forum the solution was that I download the driver (which comes as tar ball; tar.bz2) and compile it. I have never done compiling before but I did grab essential-build by: sudo apt-get install build-essential, but now when
[11:01] <lavender_dream> trying to compile it by: make, my terminal reads "make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop." I have the file extracted in my home folder.
[11:01] <LjL> !minimal > Riyonuk    (Riyonuk, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:01] <DShepherd> !ubuntu-deskop | stuh84
[11:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-deskop - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:02] <P_Kable> !virtualbox
[11:02] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[11:02] <LjL> !ubuntu-desktop
[11:02] <ubotu> k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[11:02] <quittt> does anyone know how do I make fsck correct my root filesystem at boot?
[11:02] <bascule> lavender_dream: link to source download please
[11:02] <LjL> !msg the bot
[11:02] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[11:02] <DShepherd> LjL, thanks
[11:02] <LjL> !fsck > quittt    (quittt, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:02] <lavender_dream> bascule: http://masscat.afraid.org/ninds/rt2570.php
[11:02] <quittt> it says that are differences between the backup and the one that I'm using...
[11:02] <Rageon> !GProftp
[11:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gproftp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:02] <Riyonuk> Well I remmber not being able to remove lots of programs, such as totem
[11:02] <stuh84> edd: let me know how you get on btw
[11:02] <LjL> quittt: fsck won't fix that.
[11:02] <Edd> stuh....wha step should I use if im running ultimate....feisty and gutsy or dapper and edgy
[11:03] <stuh84> i am guess feisty
[11:03] <stuh84> do a uname -r in your terminal
[11:03] <stuh84> tell me what kernel version it says yer running
[11:03] <quittt> LjL, and what should I do?
[11:03] <apollo2011> hi everyone
[11:03] <Alp-> hello guys, it's offtopic but maybe you want share with me your favourite web-based wiki software? there are so much out there and i'd appreciate some of your thoughts
[11:03] <kdub432> Shapeshifter: [URL=http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotopenhb8.png] [IMG] http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/6717/screenshotopenhb8.th.png[/IMG] [/URL]  is what it looks like on debian...
[11:03] <DShepherd> Shaffer, http://screencasts.ubuntu.com/MoS2007/09_Installing_Ubuntu_Part_1 --- this is good stuff.. if you have couple minutes.. digest it
[11:04] <Edd> 2.6.20-15-generic
[11:04] <LjL> quittt: most likely, nothing. that warning is not an error.
[11:04] <LjL> quittt: if it bothers you however, you can make it go away. let me just find the right link
[11:04] <quittt> LjL, and what is it?
[11:04] <stuh84> yeah looks like fesity to me
[11:04] <stuh84> *feisty
[11:04] <Rageon> no way apollo you  just wanna ummuuu , slaaaavennuu ummuu -- easy rocky ... thats too many big words
[11:04] <stuh84> so just follow the steps for feisty
[11:04] <apollo2011> I just rebooted and now my mouse is clearly more sensitive than it used to be. I am on KDE and the setting for acceleration is still the same, as low as it will go (1x). Is there some other setting in X, KDE, etc that could be changing my mouse's sensitivity/acceleration?
[11:04] <DShepherd> !pm > Shaffer
[11:04] <Edd> ok stuh
[11:05] <LjL> quittt: a warning about a Windows filesystem of yours, saying that the boot sector is different from the one that's backed up, which you're unlikely to ever use.
[11:05] <quittt> LjL, how do I check my boot msgs?
[11:05] <lavender_dream> bascule: this is the post that I got the idea about in ubuntuforums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=1939964e3832054114ff49badd36ede6&t=511751
[11:05] <ofnet> how do i connect to a server in linux, I have the ip address, just puttin g it in browser isnt working
[11:05] <LjL> quittt: /var/log/messages
[11:05] <Edd> quick question though...when I hooked my laptop up to the internet via eth1 i tried installing ndiswrapper and it said it completed but its not being shown anywhere....how should I figure out how to open it
[11:05] <tetreaul> ofnet: how do you want to connect?
[11:06] <AboSamoor> i'm using gusty-beta i got this error message when i tried to launch services-admin "The configuration could not be loaded" + "You are not allowed to access the system configuration."
[11:06] <bascule> lavender_dream: the source is broken, the actual code is in the Module directory
[11:06] <Riyonuk> Is it possible to get ubuntu in under 500MB?
[11:06] <stuh84> ndiswrapper - very interesting
[11:06] <pike_> ofnet: from terminal or just browse files in file manager?
[11:06] <stuh84> you have to follow a fair amount of steps to get it working in the first place
[11:06] <bascule> lavender_dream: /home/kenny/workspace/nin_rt2570-1.1.0-b2/Module
[11:06] <ofnet> tetreaul, I want to connect so I can download the centos disks, I want to do a network installation
[11:06] <DShepherd> AboSamoor, state your problem in #ubuntu+1
[11:06] <stuh84> if you use the script on that page though
[11:06] <Edd> stuh: I used synaptic
[11:06] <stuh84> for the native driver
[11:06] <aguitel> !gutsy
[11:06] <DShepherd> AboSamoor, they talk about gutsy all day there :-)
[11:06] <stuh84> yeah installing it is fine
[11:06] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[11:07] <stuh84> but getting it working isn't as fine
[11:07] <LjL> !enter
[11:07] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:07] <stuh84> but the native driver script bypasses the need for ndiswrapper anyway
[11:07] <lavender_dream> bascule: okay to compile from the module directory, what do i need to type in the terminal? it's in my home desktop extracted
[11:07] <quittt> ah it is not a problem
[11:07] <stuh84> although theres a link on that page to install with ndiswrapper anyway
[11:07] <stuh84> if you want to
[11:07] <gea> hello, i have install ubuntu server, how can i install gnome?
[11:08] <new2ub> DShepherd, it's not downloading for some reason
[11:08] <quittt> problem, forget it
[11:08] <gea> what command do i have to use?
[11:08] <quittt> is there a repository for Opera browsers?
[11:08] <bascule> lavender_dream: well have you got kernel source installed? If so just type make
[11:08] <ofnet> tetreaul, how can you generally connect to a server so you can see the files in it ? I was told that I have sudo previlige there
[11:08] <lavender_dream> bascule: I have the essential-build if that's what you mean
[11:08] <bascule> lavender_dream: in fact follow the instructions on the page you liked me to
[11:09] <bascule> lavender_dream: no this is a driver it needs the kernel source installed... out your depth?
[11:09] <LjL> quittt, the way to fix it was  sudo dosfsck -ar /dev/whatever , and then choose "copy original to backup"
[11:09] <ofnet> anyone knows how I can connect to a server
[11:09] <jeb> genii: still here?
[11:09] <lavender_dream> bascule: Yeah sorry, I'm only a 2 week linux user ;) converted 100% from xp to ubuntu
[11:09] <chapium> are there instructions for switching to gutsy somewhere?
[11:09] <Edd> stuh: i did notice when I tried seeing if i could connect with the wireless that it set the wireless port as lo...is that ok?
[11:10] <stuh84> lo is probably not right
[11:10] <new2ub> DShepherd, I think it is now....just took forever to start for some reason
[11:10] <stuh84> from what i remember thats the loopback interface
[11:10] <stuh84> hence why it wont have worked
[11:10] <Edd> hm
[11:10] <stuh84> but like i said
[11:10] <stuh84> use the script on that page
[11:10] <stuh84> and ndiswrapper isn't needed
[11:10] <stuh84> it'll sort everything out for ya
[11:10] <bascule> lavender_dream: this is almost certainly beyond you, but carry it on as a learning experience if you wish, but don't ask me for much help, I don't have the device so can't lead you through to completion, harsh but fair ;)
[11:10] <Hilikus_> hi guys, i cant connect to my apache server using my external ip, can someone tell me if http://70.52.61.30/ works\
[11:11] <stuh84> hilikus: works fine here
[11:11] <martin_> works
[11:11] <Hilikus_> niiiice
[11:11] <riotkittie> works
[11:11] <cliang> works
[11:11] <bascule> lavender_dream: first thing you are gonna need is the kernel source for your currently running kernel
[11:11] <Edd> alright im gonna try it now
[11:11] <Rageon> is anyones Pidgin/Gaim working for MSN right now?
[11:11] <Hilikus_> why doesnt it let me connect using my external ip then??
[11:11] <cliang> yes
[11:11] <martin_> arag: yes
[11:11] <martin_> rageon: yes
[11:11] <new2ub> Rageon; mine doesn't
[11:11] <CarlF1> yaser: I have  02:09.0 Communication controller: Motorola SM56 PCI Modem
[11:12] <riotkittie> oh yea. sources. duh. <hangs head in shame>
[11:12] <CarlF1> yaser: how close is that to yours?
[11:12] <lavender_dream> bascule: switching to ubuntu was a pure learning and philosophical decision, thank you for the tips though, I'll try to carry on and see, thank you again
[11:12] <bascule> welcome
[11:12] <gea> how can i active all repositories from comanline ?
[11:12] <stuh84> rageon: dunno about pidgin, but my adium does, which uses the same libpurple backend
[11:12] <Rageon> i been getting a weird error "write error" all night on 2 diff accounts
[11:12] <yaser> well i dont remember exactly now, because im not on that machine, but i think its very close to it
[11:12] <yaser> wich driver did you use?
[11:12] <Rageon> now one has logged in and the other not heh
[11:13] <stuh84> lets test to see if it can connect with the vm
[11:13] <martin_> anyone here know how to use server-side includes with lighttpd?
[11:13] <IdleOne> !repos | gea
[11:13] <ubotu> gea: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[11:13] <slicky> hey.. how do i low level format my hdd?
[11:13] <CarlF1> yaser: I just now got the box booted u, and havn't started to even try to get the modem working
[11:14] <preaction> slicky, what do you mean? make a new filesystem or write a whole bunch of 0 bits to the disk?
[11:14] <yaser> CarlF1, good luck then
[11:14] <yaser> CarlF1, i never could
[11:14] <Hilikus_> where are mknod created at boot time? theres a node that i have to keep creating manually for /dev/lirc
[11:14] <CarlF1> yaser: swell.  at least I have 3 more to try :/
[11:15] <trdracer> can someone with good all around knowledge about ubuntu pm me please
[11:15] <preaction> !ask | trdracer
[11:15] <ubotu> trdracer: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:15] <stuh84> rageon: works fine for MSN
[11:15] <brobostigon> whats the prob
[11:15] <stuh84> cant see a problem here
[11:15] <trdracer> that works ubotu
[11:16] <yenno> hi, slightly offtopic & crosspost ;-) the intranet site of the company where i work works withouth authentication when using internet explorer - but i'd like to use firefox. so, does firefox support certificate authentication?
[11:16] <trdracer> well i want to know if i switch to ubuntu will it mess with any of my current files and what not..
[11:16] <trdracer> and i make the complete switch how will it be working?
[11:16] <bascule> lavender_dream: incidentally it is a broken piece of code and won't build; unless you can fix the C code ... :(
[11:16] <trdracer> i just dont want it to interfere with my music files..
[11:16] <jeb> genii: leaving for today. thx for your help
[11:16] <preaction> trdracer, you can non-destructively resize your windows partitions
[11:16] <chapium> how do you upgrade from feisty to gutsy?
[11:16] <martin_> yenno: works for me, not sure if it works on all setups :)
[11:16] <Kronos> great, a load of people right lets see if anyone's up to date with this one, very new to linux but i'm ok with computers so just hit me, i'm trying to intall ubuntu on an intel based system but it doesnt seem to like something in my rig , i belive its something to do with the graphics card, symtoms are funny things start to happen at some point during the instalation like the loading bar that goes back and forth well i
[11:16] <Kronos> get 2 of those and the screen looks a bit like its gone beyond its max resolution then the screen goes black and the comp restarts... any ideas?? i cant be very specific since i dont know how to check the logs last time linux (i belive it was debian) a year or so ago during the instalation process i had a lil log thing going on my screen so i could tell exactly whats going on, with this one its a bit like windows aint g
[11:16] <preaction> chapium, you don't, gutsy isn't released yet
[11:16] <bascule> !upgrade
[11:16] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[11:16] <Kronos> ot a clue what its doing untill it goes poofff... then all i can tell is that it broke the reason why its why im here to hopefuly find out
[11:16] <trdracer> i want ubuntu to be my default os though.
[11:17] <IdleOne> !upgrade | chapium
[11:17] <ubotu> chapium: please see above
[11:17] <riotkittie> Kronos:  use the alternate install CD
[11:17] <chapium> IdleOne: it does not say on that link
[11:17] <yenno> martin_: it's a normal http site, i don't understand how i can tell firefox he should use the pkcs12 i imported :S
[11:17] <Acoustyk> I resized my window partition and now have 13 gigs allotted for linux.  How do I alot for the different partitions? (/,/home, and swap: logical or primary?)
[11:17] <demon_spork> is there a way to get a finder that works like the Apple OS X  finder, right from the dock
[11:17] <preaction> trdracer, when you install grub (the boot loader, that loads the OS) it will make ubuntu the default OS. you'll still HAVE windows, but ubuntu will boot by default
[11:17] <bascule> !dist-upgrade > bascule
[11:17] <Edd> thanks so much stuh it works perfectly
[11:17] <Edd> :)
[11:17] <Kronos> i belive that's why i'm using....
[11:18] <Kronos>  what i'm using*
[11:18] <trdracer> preaction : ok so i want to install but dont want to open up a partition or whatever..
[11:18] <trdracer> i have barely any hdd space..
[11:18] <Pelo> Acoustyk, is it free space you need to partition or do you need to use the free space to make /home bigger ?
[11:18] <trdracer> and i want it to work as if it were my windows xp.
[11:18] <trdracer> but better of course :)
[11:18] <lavender_dream> bascule: hmm... alright thank you regardless
[11:18] <Acoustyk> free space I need to partition
[11:19] <martin_> if you dont want to give up any HD space, but just want to see Ubuntu and try it out - just boot of the install CD, you will be suprised :-)
[11:19] <stuh84> trdracer: so are you trying to install instead of XP, but keep the files?
[11:19] <trdracer> yes
[11:19] <preaction> trdracer, ubuntu requires a few hundred megabytes, and until it's installed you need another OS. once it's installed you can delete windows, but until then you need it. backup some of your music and restore it later
[11:19] <IdleOne> trdracer: backup the files and then install
[11:19] <ofnet> how do I write a cd in linux
[11:19] <preaction> !burn | ofnet
[11:19] <ubotu> ofnet: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[11:19] <trdracer> omg thats over 100gigs.
[11:19] <martin_> ofnet | you in standard ubuntu? - it comes with a cd/dvd creator
[11:19] <trdracer> well over
[11:19] <preaction> trdracer, SOME, not all
[11:19] <ethan_> hello?
[11:19] <Tatster> hi all.  I'm trying to get a new Ipod Nano working with Ubuntu (Feisty).  I have found a site http://thefunkcorner.blogspot.com/2007/10/ubuntu-ipod-nano.html that has some deb packaged files, but they are for Gutsy.  Should they still work OK?
[11:19] <trdracer> the music by itself is over 100gigs
[11:20] <preaction> !hi | ethan_
[11:20] <ubotu> ethan_: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[11:20] <stuh84> trdracer: ubuntu cant work like an upgrade cd to XP
[11:20] <Pelo> Acoustyk,  you can just  right click the unallocated space and click new partiton to add them, on my comp   /home is ext3 and swap is embeded inside an extended partition,
[11:20] <trdracer> i could care less about the rest
[11:20] <stuh84> its not how it works
[11:20] <stuh84> it replaces XP
[11:20] <Kronos> whats the difference between the normal install and the alternate cd install anyyway?
[11:20] <ofnet> martin_, ugg, Im in red hat man
[11:20] <trdracer> stuh84 can i pm?
[11:20] <stuh84> hence why you need to back up stuff
[11:20] <trez> What should I do when I recieve kernel oops? should I report them somewhere? because I cant localize the reason of them
[11:20] <trdracer> i want to learn more about this.
[11:20] <Acoustyk> do i make them primary or logical or does it matter?
[11:20] <ethan_> can anyone answer why i get a white screen with feisty when i try to use beryl or desktop effects or compiz
[11:20] <preaction> Kronos, the normal cd is the live cd, the alternate cd is the old debian-installer
[11:20] <martin_> ofnet | hehe, sorry to hear, there are plenty of packages though ..... search the rpm repo's
[11:20] <stuh84> unless yer registered on here, its a no
[11:20] <preaction> ethan_, #ubuntu-effects
[11:20] <stuh84> i aint registered meself
[11:20] <Pelo> ethan_,  the ppl in #ubuntu-effects can probably answer you
[11:21] <trdracer> i am registered
[11:21] <stuh84> pm me then
[11:21] <Hilikus_> where are mknod created at boot time? theres a node that i have to keep creating manually for /dev/lirc
[11:21] <vixyfox> Hey everyone. I was trying to install 7.10 on my system, but when I put in the disk and it started, the disk showed loading, then when it went to load the desktop the screen went all black. Now it's black and the powerlight on my monitor is flashing. How do I get to see the install disk desktop?
[11:21] <Pici> vixyfox: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions please.
[11:21] <DShepherd> stuh84, it doesnt have to replace XP. you can dual boot if you like
[11:21] <Pelo> vixyfox,  ask in #ubuntu+1
[11:21] <Kronos> not using the alternate CD then... off i go then got  an alternate CD to download ty guyz i'll be back if problems arrise ty
[11:21] <stuh84> well yeah D, but he's not wanting to repartition
[11:21] <Pelo> Acoustyk, I don'T allow private msg, please talk to me in the channel
[11:22] <Acoustyk> ok
[11:22] <Acoustyk> well
[11:22] <DShepherd> stuh84, oh ok
[11:22] <Acoustyk> i just need to know if needs to be primary or logical
[11:22] <Pelo> Acoustyk,  just put my nick in each line so I know you are talking to me
[11:22] <Acoustyk> ok
[11:22] <Acoustyk> Pelo i just need to know if needs to be primary or logical
[11:22] <Pelo> Acoustyk, as far as I know ,  primary is better but you can only have up to 4 primaries on a hdd so you'll have to decide depending on your situation
[11:23] <Acoustyk> pelo i need three partitions for linux though right? / /home and swap
[11:24] <kdub432> Acoustyk: / and /home can be on the same partition
[11:24] <preaction> Acoustyk, no, you only need one really. but i don't know if the current installer allows for swap files
[11:24] <Pelo> Acoustyk,  a seperate partition for /home is optional but very usefull
[11:24] <Pelo> preaction,  you need a partition for the swap
[11:24] <preaction> Pelo, so that's a no on swap files then?
[11:25] <kdub432> a separate /home is recommended though, as then you can wipe your system, not loose any data, and have all programs configured the same.... (once you reinstall them)
[11:25] <Pelo> preaction, as far as I know
[11:25] <preaction> maybe hardy...
[11:25] <kdub432> I thought you could configure swap via the default installer.....
[11:25] <trdracer> 128 GB (138,383,774,133 bytes) <999 is what i dont want to lose...
[11:25] <trdracer> my music
[11:26] <Pelo> trdracer, are you talking to someone in particular ?  use their nick in each line  so they know
[11:26] <Acoustyk> pelo I allotted 2.5 gigs to / and the partitioner now says the rest of the space is unusable
[11:26] <preaction> trdracer, how much space do you have free? as i said before you can non-destructively resize your partition
[11:26] <trdracer> preaction i only have 149 total hdd space atm
[11:26] <Pelo> Acoustyk,  a bit more for /  5 gg at least and apply before trying to make the next change
[11:27] <trdracer> preaction i will find out right now exactly how much i have left
[11:27] <Hilikus_> what at boot time controls what /dev/* links to??
[11:27] <trdracer> preaction is 5.85GB unused
[11:28] <Hilikus_> cause my module is loading but its not creating its /dev/ element
[11:28] <Pelo> Hilikus, I think you need to give a bit more info
[11:29] <trdracer> Oh My God can someone please allow a pm.
[11:29] <Hilikus_> my lirc module is loaded, if i do mknod .... and create the /dev/lirc it works, but my old module created that node automatically
[11:29] <bruenig> !pm | trdracer
[11:29] <ubotu> trdracer: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[11:29] <bruenig> !gtfo | trdracer
[11:29] <ubotu> trdracer: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:30] <preaction> trdracer, that's fine for now. don't PM people without asking. use the ubuntu installer to resize your partition, install ubuntu on that new partition, delete the OS from your old partition
[11:30] <trdracer> bruenig how was i being rude??
[11:30] <trogdor> boot up lags severely at one point for me, this is the spot it slows down at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39587/ any idea how I might fix the issue? I think its something to do with how my hard drive is connected.
[11:30] <preaction> trdracer, or you don't need to delete the old OS at all, both will be loadable (as per your PM question)
[11:30] <bruenig> trdracer, that is the pm factoid, it says don't pm because some find it rude
[11:30] <ferronica> i have just installed Xp Pro over ubuntu 7.04 ,how to load XP in GRUB ?
 Oh My God can so.....    "tho shall have no other god but linus"
[11:31] <preaction> trdracer, it's like telemarketers, or that guy in your office who calls you for every little issue
[11:31] <trdracer> preaction,so i can install and still have windows available to use daily correct?
[11:31] <ferronica> i have just installed Xp Pro over ubuntu 7.04 ,how to load XP in GRUB ?
[11:31] <trdracer> preaction with no hassles?
[11:32] <Pelo> ferronica,  you need to manualy edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:32] <trogdor> trdracer: you can pm me if you want :)
[11:32] <preaction> trdracer, the hassle would be Press Esc during the boot and choose Windows XP from the menu
[11:32] <IdleOne> !dualboot | trdracer
[11:32] <ubotu> trdracer: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookProFeisty
[11:33] <ferronica> Pelo: i did
[11:33] <Pelo> ferronica, and ?
[11:33] <ferronica> Pelo: grub showimg Xp
[11:33] <ferronica> Pelo: cant boot
[11:33] <Pelo> ferronica,  pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:33] <IdleOne> ferronica: chicken me dinner < what does that mean to you?
[11:33] <Acoustyk> is guided install the best to use if I have 13 gigs of free space?
[11:34] <ethan_> i keep getting white screen when i try to use desktop effects or beryl
[11:34] <ferronica> Pelo: ok
[11:34] <riotkittie> trogdor: you'll be fine
[11:34] <riotkittie> err.
[11:34] <ferronica> Pelo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39588/
[11:34] <riotkittie> stupid premature enterkey.
[11:34] <stuh84> ethan: sounds like your card doesn't support it then
[11:34] <stuh84> what gfx you using?
[11:34] <DShepherd> ethan_, #ubuntu-effects maybe?
[11:34] <Pelo> ferronica,  what is the devtree of your xp partition ?
[11:34] <ethan_> already in there
[11:34] <ferronica> Pelo: i am using single HDD PATA.
[11:34] <IdleOne> Acoustyk: the guided install will see and use those 13gigs but only after asking you if that is what you want to do
[11:35] <borrer> who can help me ? I have installed ubuntu 7.04 on ASUS m2v-mx with integrated VIDEO (VIA Chrome9), and xorg cant start.
[11:35] <new2ub> I have a question here
[11:35] <ethan_> no one is responding
[11:35] <DShepherd> ethan_, ok
[11:35] <new2ub> how do you change a read only file to be able to make changes?
[11:35] <stuh84> borrer, can you get to a terminal?
[11:35] <stuh84> or a command line?
[11:35] <xBulldogx> Hey guys :)
[11:35] <xBulldogx> I just installed ubuntu
[11:35] <preaction> new2ub, first ask yourself if you SHOULD be making changes to that file
[11:35] <Pelo> ferronica,   xp is on the same hdd as  ubuntu ?
[11:35] <ethan_> so i am asking here
[11:35] <xBulldogx> migrated from Vista
[11:35] <xBulldogx> :)
[11:35] <new2ub> I have Ubuntu Feisty 7.04
[11:35] <borrer> stuh84: no, now i am in win
[11:35] <ferronica> Pelo: yes same HDD
[11:35] <AngryElf> any mdadm folk around?
[11:35] <new2ub> and I have to try something but need to do this first
[11:35] <stuh84> hmm
[11:35] <stuh84> load it up
[11:35] <Pelo> ferronica,  what partition is xp on ?
[11:35] <preaction> new2ub, "something" like what?
[11:35] <stuh84> and do ctrl alt and f1
[11:36] <new2ub> I know most the time I shouldn't......but I'm desperated
[11:36] <ferronica> Pelo: previously it was on SATA seperate HDD
[11:36] <Pelo> ferronica,  what partition is xp on ?
[11:36] <stuh84> then type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:36] <stuh84> pick the vesa driver from the first list
[11:36] <stuh84> then take the default options for everything else
[11:36] <new2ub> my cd and dvd drives do not work......did some digging and found a possible solution but it means changing something in fstab
[11:36] <stuh84> then once that has complete
[11:36] <stuh84> type in startx
[11:36] <new2ub> fstab is read only
[11:36] <stuh84> if it doesn't work after that, the card MIGHT not be supported
[11:37] <preaction> new2ub, if you're changing the fstab, you need to be root. gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[11:37] <trogdor> riotkittie: what you mean I'm fine? I know I am fine but how can I get rid of that laggy glitch in beginning I mean it takes an extra like 10 minutes to start up :(
[11:37] <ferronica> Pelo: according to gparted -- >/dev/sda2
[11:37] <new2ub> aha
[11:37] <new2ub> ok so bring up the fstab using sudo
[11:37] <borrer> stuh84: i try it now, thanks
[11:37] <b0lle> i cant get my wifi card in my pcmcia slot to work (pccardctl works tho) but no wireless extensions avalible and no network controller found in 'lspci' any idea?
[11:37] <snowdonkey> Hey.  Is the same true in other distros that Gnome apps can run in KDE, or is that only in Ubuntu?
[11:37] <riotkittie> trogdor: that actually wasnt directed at you :P  i hit enter too soon and didnt insure i'd tabbed to the proper nick
[11:37] <Pelo> ferronica, ok   line 171 on the pastebin,    makeactivechainloader +1  , that's actualy two lines   makeactive      chainloader +1
[11:38] <Pelo> ferronica,  that should be it
[11:38] <riotkittie> b0lle: what kind of card? what chipset?
[11:38] <stuh84> snow: all distro's should be able to do it
[11:38] <b0lle> orinoco gold
[11:38] <lavender_dream> is there a condensed guide to ubuntu besides ubuntu-wiki that anyone can recommend a new user to? a friendly guide to linux would do too, just anything to get me started :)
[11:38] <Acoustyk> pelo im kind of a newb.  Do you think it would be easier to use the guided intall option that installs on the largest continous free space.  Will it affect my windows partition? (I have 13 gigs free)
[11:38] <riotkittie> b0lle: i'm clueless, sorry
[11:38] <AutoMatriX_> Hi folks, I've got a Mio GPS C210 ... how do I acces such a thing via linux ?
[11:38] <snowdonkey> stuh84: Ok, thx.  KDE apps can run in Gnome, XFCE apps can run in either environment, etc?
[11:38] <b0lle> k =/
[11:39] <Pelo> Acoustyk, just clearn the free space first and use the guided use largest , that will be easier yes
[11:39] <ferronica> Pelo: thats it ?
[11:39] <stuh84> xfce i'm not 100% sure, i assume if you try and apt-get or synaptic an app
[11:39] <stuh84> or whatever the package manager in the distro
[11:39] <Acoustyk> thanks
[11:39] <stuh84> it will download all necessary libraries to do it
[11:39] <Pelo> ferronica,  I think so ,  that's all I can see that is wrong with it
[11:39] <bruenig> xfce apps are gtk...
[11:39] <ferronica> Pelo: anything else ?
[11:39] <bruenig> gnome apps are gtk....
[11:39] <Pelo> ferronica,  give it a try
[11:39] <ferronica> ok
[11:40] <stuh84> aha, bruenig knows
[11:40] <chris_J> im having problems upgrading my core
[11:40] <chris_J> for some reason it doesnt work
[11:40] <bruenig> kde apps are qt....
[11:40] <Pelo> chris_J, as in upgrading to  gutsy ?
[11:40] <dimas_> pelo hello
[11:40] <slicky> im using ubutu live cd.... how do i burn a cd if i only got one cdrom?
[11:40] <Pelo> helo dimas_
[11:41] <Pelo> slicky,  you don'T
[11:41] <chris_J> uhh i dunno to be honest im newish to linux
[11:41] <ader10> would anybody write me a way to remove the "model name :" part from this using sed please? "model name      : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+"
[11:41] <Pelo> chris_J,   what core are you trying to upgrade ?
[11:41] <dimas_> pelo how do i stop firewall from ubuntu, the one it runs in the platform
[11:41] <chris_J> its in update manager it says compiz-core from version 1:0.5.2 etc.........
[11:42] <Pelo> dimas_,  man iptables  you can use  iptables -L to list what rules you have  and fine the command to remvoe the rules in the man page
[11:42] <riotkittie> lavender_dream: if you want to pick up a book... Apress' Beginning Ubuntu Linux is pretty good, and also ... Linux For Dummies, which is not ubuntu-specific but does cover it. They are well written and easy to follow
[11:42] <Pelo> dimas_,  unless you made rules there are none by default
[11:42] <Pelo> chris_J, for compiz stuff ask in #ubuntu-effects
[11:43] <chris_J> join #ubuntu-effects
[11:43] <furious> Hello Everyone, I have a bit of a problem with XGL and if someone can help me i would appriciate it alot
[11:43] <riotkittie> Alternately, just google "Linux Newbie" or "Ubuntu Newbie" and i'm sure you'll get useful results, though i can't recommend any pages off of the top of my head
[11:43] <Pelo> chris_J,   /join
[11:43] <Pelo> furious,  we like specific questions
[11:43] <furious> I have followed the guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl
[11:43] <furious> But the only thing i get when i start XGL is http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/4729/skrmbildhx9.png
[11:43] <Synchronicity> 0x
[11:43] <riotkittie> I also suggest just browsing through posts @ ubuntuforums.org  -- the general help and beginner sections are really helpful, imo
[11:43] <snowdonkey> stuh84: Well I'm trying to figure out if I can move all my data that uses Gnome & KDE apps to another distro, like Slackware or Zenwalk, there'd be no Apt-get.
[11:44] <furious> Anyone know what the problem might be and how to solve it. Im running a Radeon X1600pro AGP.
[11:44] <riotkittie> err. com.
[11:44] <dimas_> pelo by default there is a kind of firestarter on the system, like perhaps if i am as super user dont have any problems but now i have install so many programs in regular user
[11:44] <cdp_xe> hi
[11:44] <Les_Caesars> I know this is the ubuntu channel, nobody in #kubuntu or #kde was able to help me. My "Recent applications" does not work in kickoff.
[11:44] <sneez> snowdonkey: you shouldn't run into any problems transferring data between various linux distro's
[11:44] <cdp_xe> can someone tell me what a "release file" (on the ubuntu cd) is? my ubuntu install says that it cannot read this file :(
[11:45] <furious> no one can help ?
[11:45] <Pelo> dimas_,  firestarter is only a gui frontend,   iptables is the cli control for the firewall,   the firewall itself is netfilter. if you don't see any  rules when you type  iptables -L  you donT' have any firewall enabled
[11:45] <cdp_xe> i found no one :(
[11:45] <ader10> Would anybody write me a way to remove the "model name :" part from this using sed please? "model name      : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+"
[11:45] <ader10> I'm not familiar w/ sed so I can't do it.
[11:45] <snowdonkey> sneez: Ok.  Thx!
[11:46] <Pelo> furious,  this is a busy channel and the skillset varies ,  ask your question periodicaly and/or try searching in the forum www.ubuntuforum.sorg
[11:46] <Pelo> www.ubuntuforums.org
[11:46] <lavender_dream> riotkittie: thank you, i've been meaning to stop by the bookstore soon anyway :)
[11:46] <Pelo> ader10,   man sed and see if you can do it yourself
[11:46] <jwhitlark> Will the beta Gutsy upgrade seamlessly to the final release once it's out?
[11:47] <dfletcher_> hehe and I just figured it out for him Pelo ;)
[11:47] <sneez> snowdonkey: oops, re-read your post.  Slackware doesn't play well with Gnome (without a lot of work or a crappy workaround) anymore. (just for your information)  But text files and graphics/music/media and the like should be just fine.
[11:47] <dfletcher_> ader10, echo "model name      : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+" | sed "s/^.*\: //g"
[11:47] <Pelo> jwhitlark, any updates made to gutsy at release will be treated like a regular update
[11:47] <dimas_> pelo i cant access it from regular user...is that mean anything?
[11:47] <dimas_> pelo but i dont have any restrictioins, no
[11:47] <jwhitlark> great, so a beta install will update into the regular version.  Thanks, Pelo
[11:48] <ader10> Pelo: I've  done that
[11:48] <Pelo> dimas_,  well it's the firewall shouldnT' be accessibnle to a regulare user  do it with sudo
[11:48] <dimas_> i am on root now
[11:48] <furious> thank you Pelo
[11:48] <ader10> dfletcher: I'll try
[11:48] <furious> will search the forums for a bit
[11:49] <dimas_> pelo i am as root but doesnt say any restrictions, but how that come is administer also upon user groups?
[11:49] <ader10> dfletcher: Thank you very much!
[11:49] <dfletcher_> ader10, it's attempting to match start of line (^), then some chars, then the colon and a space. it replaces that with empty string. sure np
[11:49] <bascule> ader10: echo "model name      : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+" | cut -f 2 -d ':' <--that do, sed is overkill mostly
[11:49] <Pelo> furious,  it is possible that  xgl is not compatible with your card you might need aixgl or someting else , I 'm not to familiar with it
[11:49] <hagna> trying to compile libdnet I get C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[11:50] <Pelo> dimas_, what ?
[11:50] <ader10> bascule: I realize sed is overkill but I need it for this
[11:50] <bascule> why not cut?
[11:50] <Pelo> dimas_,  firewall rules are not user specific they are for the system
[11:50] <dimas_> pelo, is there a posibility i can convert another user as super user?
[11:51] <furious> aixgl does not support ATI, thats why im using XGL in the first place Pelo
[11:51] <dimas_> pelo i understand now
[11:51] <furious> ;)
[11:51] <Pelo> dimas_, you can give any user administrative priviledge but I'm not familiar with the how
[11:51] <ader10> dfletcher: So if I had a different line with a "sdfsdf: Hello" it would also isolate Hello, right?
[11:51] <Pelo> furious, I was trying to give you a possible lead, like i said I don't know much about it
[11:52] <furious> no problem
[11:52] <dfletcher_> ader10, yes it would
[11:52] <ader10> ok
[11:52] <furious> fin a thread about somthing familiar on the forum
[11:52] <ader10> ty again
[11:52] <EvilDennisR> So I just upgraded from 7.4 to the 7.10 beta, and I'm having issues with my dual monitor setup. Before I upgraded it was working flawlessly. Now? Not so much.. Heres a copy of my old xorg.conf before the upgrade http://dennisr.net/xorg.conf - I'm having the issue where the 2nd monitor is not "another" monitor, but the same screen as the first.. Ideas/Comments/Suggestions ?
[11:52] <Pelo> furious, ppl in #ubuntu-effects might be able to help you they are more familiar with graphics stuff because of compositing
[11:52] <MannyZ> good evening, can somebody please tell me a channel where i can get help on compiz fusion?
[11:52] <dfletcher_> ader10, sure np. I just figured that out for myself a few days ago, so fresh in my head ;)
[11:52] <Pelo> !gutsy | EvilDennisR
[11:52] <ubotu> EvilDennisR: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[11:52] <Pelo> MannyZ,  #compiz-fusion
[11:52] <EvilDennisR> Pelo: Rock, I'll go pester in there
[11:53] <MannyZ> ok thanks pelo
[11:53] <dimas_> is gutsy out already?
[11:53] <Pelo> dimas_,  no , just beta
[11:53] <MannyZ> Pelo how you get my name like that?
[11:53] <ader10> dfletcher: How handy to have time give us perfect sequence... I thought that only happened in movies ;)
[11:53] <Pelo> MannyZ, like what ?
[11:53] <hagna> oh I don't have c++ installed, what is the packge name for that?
[11:53] <MannyZ> like that on the start is MannyZ.
[11:53] <MannyZ> i bet you dont write it yourself
[11:53] <dimas_> pelo beta where?
[11:53] <crdlb> !tab
[11:53] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[11:54] <Pelo> MannyZ,  I use nickcomp    first few letters then I hit tab
[11:54] <MannyZ> ohh
[11:54] <MannyZ> Pelo,
[11:54] <MannyZ> it works :P
[11:54] <MannyZ> thanks!
[11:54] <scguy318> works on mIRC :D
[11:54] <Pelo> !gutsy | dimas_
[11:54] <ubotu> dimas_: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[11:55] <dimas_> pelo thanks
[11:55] <MrWGW> with Ubuntu Mobile and Embedded Edition about to come out
[11:55] <MrWGW> is there any way that I can experiment with it using PC hardware?
[11:55] <MrWGW> any emulator?
[11:55] <MrWGW> or are there any devices out now that it will run on?
[11:56] <Pelo> !enter | MrWGW
[11:56] <ubotu> MrWGW: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:56] <Pelo> MrWGW,  and I don'T knwo what you mean anyway
[11:56] <ader10> dfletcher: Is there a way to cut off the end of a line, also?
[11:57] <F3000> Heya. Anyone who's familiar with xubuntu available?
[11:57] <nightz> hi, how i check if my swap partition is being used in gutsy beta? because i opened gparted and it says its not active
[11:57] <n0va> Hi all, I've tried before to get my mate to install Ubuntu but he is an ATI (crossfire+mobo) user and has always had probs, has the ATI situation improved enough of late?
[11:57] <Pelo> F3000,  the ppl in #xubuntu can probably help
[11:57] <brobostigon> df -h
[11:57] <nightz> n0va: new drivers are coming
[11:57] <Pelo> !gutsy | nightz
[11:57] <ubotu> nightz: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[11:57] <Pelo> F3000, I don'T allow private msg, please talk to me in the channel
[11:57] <F3000> Pelo, it's quite quiet in there.
[11:57] <ader10> dfletcher: like if it had a "]  " at the end how would I remove that as well?
[11:58] <n0va> ty nightz, you think Gutsy will be an improvement?
[11:58] <nightz> n0va: yeah
[11:58] <Pelo> F3000, ask your question we'll see what we can do
[11:58] <n0va> cool ty nightz
[11:58] <nightz> n0va: in newer versions of ati/amd the situation should improve alot
[11:58] <chris_J> which channel would i go to if i wanted to findout whats the best media player overall ?
[11:59] <brobostigon> none
[11:59] <Pelo> !best | chris_J
[11:59] <ubotu> chris_J: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[11:59] <bruenig> mplayer
[11:59] <brobostigon> vlc
[11:59] <ader10> mpd > amarok :)
[11:59] <bruenig> vlc is an mplayer front end
[11:59] <bruenig> a*
[11:59] <chris_J> vlc it is where would i aquire vlc ?
[12:00] <Pelo> chris_J,  http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[12:00] <F3000> I've installed Xubuntu on my (old) laptop, as explained in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingXubuntu , but when I reboot for the last time, I end up into unix-style login screen. And when I login, nothing further happens. No GUI.
[12:00] <romulo> F3000, what videocard?
[12:00] <DShepherd> !media | chris_J check out those too
[12:00] <ubotu> chris_J check out those too: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[12:00] <bruenig> you could use gnome-mplayer or qtplayer if you want another mplayer front end that isn't vlc
[12:01] <chris_J> ok let me rephrase my question since you guys can obviously provide a detailed response with more info
[12:01] <Pelo> chris_J,  don'T
[12:01] <Pelo> read the responce corretly
[12:01] <F3000> The unix style continues after login. Commands xserver or startxfce4 doesn't seem to exist.
[12:01] <chris_J> which media player has in your personal opinions the neatest features and or visualizations
[12:01] <nickren> where are programs installed in the file system
[12:01] <bruenig> mplayer
[12:02] <brobostigon> vlc cant be afronend to mplayer, vlc works in beos, and mplayer doesnt work in beos.
[12:02] <Pelo> F3000,   start xfce4  , two words
[12:02] <_adac_> is there an ui where i can set up mountig things in fstab?
[12:02] <scguy318> nickren: probably /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin
[12:02] <romulo> nickren, programs installed with apt/synaptic (the binaries) go to /usr/bin
[12:02] <bruenig> brobostigon, mplayer libraries are statically compiled
[12:02] <scguy318> _adac_: probably, though I'm not sure what apps
[12:02] <nickren> thank
[12:02] <F3000> pelo, then there's typo in that guide.
[12:03] <_adac_> scguy318 it is boring doing this things by hand in the text editor
[12:03] <nickren> thank you
[12:03] <Pelo> F3000,  tell the ppl in #xubuntu , it's their guide
[12:03] <F3000> also, "-bash: start: command not found"
[12:03] <bruenig> F3000, oh you have it saying start xfce4
[12:03] <F3000> pelo, will do.
[12:03] <nickren> so where are the config files for these programs at?
[12:03] <bruenig> not startxfce4
[12:03] <bruenig> you need to change it to startxfce4
[12:03] <brobostigon> .xinitrc
[12:03] <Pelo> F3000,  try  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  see if there is something wrong with it ,  should restart x properly
[12:04] <bruenig> the problem is his typo
[12:04] <nickren> i have a synth program that won't cause it can't find jack even though its on