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FFighterhello01:49
FFighterfolks01:49
FFighterI came from Gnome01:49
FFighterand my keboard lyout is now messed up01:49
FFighterI can`t find keyboard setting under the system menu01:50
FFightercould someone help me01:50
FFighternonone01:52
FFighterno one01:52
wbadger?01:53
wbadgerFFighter, be a bit more specific01:53
FFighterwbadger, ok01:53
FFighterwbadger, I used to use GNOME01:53
FFighterwbadger, my keyboard layout is Brazillian ABTN201:54
FFighterwbadger, just switched to XFCE01:54
wbadgerok01:54
wbadgerI believe gnome stores it's own keyboard layout01:54
FFighterwbadger, and the keyboard layout is definetly not Br ABNT2 and I can`t find where to set it up01:54
wbadgerXFCE keyboard layout is set with the file xorg.conf01:55
wbadgeror you could try otherwise01:55
FFighterwbadger, hmmm... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6611501:55
FFighterwbadger, I think I found the answer =)01:55
wbadgerfirst lets try opening settings -> keyboard settings01:55
FFighterwbadger, I can`t find it!01:55
wbadgeroh01:55
wbadgerwhy not?01:55
FFighterwbadger, the keyboard settings01:55
wbadgerdo you not have a menu or no keyboard settings?01:55
FFighterwbadger, well, I`ve got a Applications main menu01:56
FFighterthere`s a system submenu01:56
FFighterbut there isn`t a keyboard settings item there01:56
wbadgeryeah but there should also be a settings submenu01:56
wbadgeryou don't need the system submenu01:56
FFighterholy cow, sorry my mistake01:56
FFighteryeah there is01:56
FFighterdamn lack of attention01:56
wbadger;) no problem, happened to me too at first01:56
wbadgernow in the keyboard settings, in the layouts tab, there should be a way to fix this01:57
FFighterwbadger, yeah, thanks so much01:57
FFighter=)01:57
wbadgernp ;)01:57
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FFighterhey!02:17
FFighterIs there a way to assign keyboard shortcuts to switch the workspaces in XFCE:02:17
FFighter?02:17
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user1whats easiest way to stream my tuner card to my freind?02:17
nikolamFFighter: You HAVE shortcut: Ctrl+Alt+Arrow02:25
FFighternikolam, yeah, thank you02:28
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vanessa_when i start up, i have no deskbar02:31
vanessa_and i dont know how to turn it on02:31
wbadgervanessa_, what do you mean by deskbar..?02:31
vanessa_the menu bar at the top and bottom of the desktop in Xfce that sais "Applications" and stuff02:32
vanessa_it was there when i installed02:32
wbadgerwhat happens if you press alt+f2 and enter in that box that pops up "xfce4-panel", and then press enter?02:33
vanessa_now it is wonderful02:35
vanessa_thanks!02:35
vanessa_why would it run from the live CD install and not when i start up?02:35
wbadgerI have no idea02:35
vanessa_lol02:35
vanessa_ok!02:35
wbadgerwrite that command down02:35
vanessa_ok thanks!02:37
wbadgernp :)02:37
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Ahmuckhi, does xubuntu have a printer setup gui?03:51
Ahmuckah, nm, i found it under settings03:51
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Ahmuck!mp304:05
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:05
Ahmuckif i want to play dvds in xubuntu, where do find that information?04:09
Ahmuckif i want to play windows media files, where do i find that information?04:09
robAhmuck, look at the above urls04:09
Ahmuckthose are for ubuntu, which gstreamer i suspect installs some media player?  will this work for a memory challenged system?04:10
robdvd playback is provided by libdvdcss2 and windows codecs are available in w32codecs, both not distributable by Ubuntu due to legal reasons explained on those pages, but there are details on where to get them04:10
Ahmucki guess the questiosn should have been, not distributable in the US?04:10
Ahmuckor world wide?04:10
robmost places, so they don't at all, but there is a third party repo called Medibuntu that has them04:11
Ahmuckah, ok, so what media player does xubuntu use?04:11
robxfmedia is probably best on low-resource computers in conjunction with the right codecs04:11
Ahmuckah, i c, gxine04:12
Ahmuckor xfmedia, k, thx04:12
robnot sure what the xubuntu default is, personally I find the xubuntu defaults to be way too resource needy for my needs, better alternatives exist for almost everything04:12
Ahmuckrob: do you have a page with low resource alternatives?04:13
robumm no, I only know of them from my own research, I might do a page when I get some spare time.04:14
siimoxfmedia sucks04:14
siimoit uses PCM volume control04:14
roba couple I can recommend are Epiphany instead of Firefox, and claws-mail instead of Thunderbird/Evolution04:14
siimototoally messes with other programs using audio04:15
siimostick to audacious for music man04:15
robto be honest its rare for me to play back video on this laptop, I'd suspect audacious to be overly resource needy too for music04:15
siimofor movies i highly recommened VLC Ahmuck04:15
Ahmucki've used VLC before04:16
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siimorob: its much lighter than xfmedia  its like an xmms clone04:16
siimoxfmedia relies on xine backend04:16
siimoAhmuck: VLC will play everything + kitchen sink04:16
robvlc might be okay, haven't used it in a long time.04:16
robsame with mplayer04:17
siimomplayer / xine are ok but i prefer VLC as it does everything i need without even needing win32codes04:17
robmpg123 ftw04:17
siimoit uses ffmpeg04:17
robanother thing I use a lot is tilda04:18
robI remember kde having something similar04:19
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travisbickkl1how do i open .ai format in linux?04:32
totalwormageinkscape can handle most .ai's :] 04:41
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stinkyfootcan someone help me out? my arrow keys don't work06:38
siimo><06:44
siimostinkyfoot: you using the wrong keymap maybeh06:44
stinkyfootsiimo what do i about this?06:44
siimono idea is that the only keys not working06:45
stinkyfootyes06:45
siimohave you tried picking up the kbd and knocking it on the desk a few times? lol i have no ideas06:46
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PlayMeNowhello07:52
PlayMeNowI got a few problems over here07:53
PlayMeNowhello?07:56
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xjkxwhats the command line to get that tool to configure the whole xfce07:58
PlayMeNowsadly everyone is sleeping here07:59
xjkxi found out, thanks08:03
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gromozekinWhat a Fucka?i inserted cd with xubuntu, select Start Ubuntu and after 7 min i see xfce. ooh its toooo sloow... after 2 min i select Install and its awfully slow...11:59
TheSheep!language | gromozekin12:00
ubotugromozekin: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.12:00
gromozekincould it be more faster if i burn it on other cd?or its pc trouble?12:01
gromozekinanyone have some ideas?12:02
gromozekincunt12:03
gromozekin!   12:04
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vonhalenbachgromo was right. The files on the cd should be serialized to make them load faster.12:16
TheSheep!bugs | vonhalenbach12:17
ubotuvonhalenbach: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots12:17
vonhalenbachokay12:17
TheSheepvonhalenbach: we are users, not devs :)12:18
vonhalenbachhave to search for the tool to serialize the files first, to make not just another unuseful bug report.12:18
Pondiboyhi peeps..12:19
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Tubia87hi all01:40
TheSheephi bill02:02
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snellpojkehi02:20
snellpojkei get an error when i try to start ubuntu or install ubuntu then it say reboot02:21
snellpojkewhy?02:21
snellpojkeit work fine on my laptop02:21
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rm130where is volume control?02:36
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phillips321anyone here know how to remove automatically added wine programs from the xfce menu list?02:44
phillips321they are listed in other02:45
rm130phillips321, run uninstaller02:47
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phillips321rm130, i ran that it did uninstall the ap02:50
phillips321if i click the items in the menu they dont start now02:50
phillips321all i want to do is remove them from the menu02:50
phillips321a restart doesn't refresh the list02:50
rm130oh I don't know. I still haven't figured that out02:51
rm130try opening terminal02:51
rm130and type in uninstaller..see if the item is still listed02:51
phillips321okies02:51
phillips321nope02:52
phillips321not listed02:52
phillips321i guess the menu uses the system default settings02:53
rm130Dunno then. sorry02:53
phillips321okies, thanks for trying02:53
phillips321all i need to find now is where the default list comes from...if i click Xfce Menu-->Settings-->Menu Editor02:54
phillips321i get name = --include--02:54
phillips321command = system02:54
FFighterhello04:09
FFighterfolks04:09
FFighterHow am I supposed to take screenshots in XFCE?04:09
FFighterI'm trying printscreen but it doesn't seem to copy the screen for me04:09
wbadgeryou can add this kinda widget to the bar04:11
wbadgerthe panel*04:11
wbadgerpress right button -> add new item04:11
wbadgerand then you can choose "screenshot". then just press the newly added button on your panel04:11
wbadgeror you could install another screenshot application, like the one gnome uses (forgot it's name)04:12
wbadgerFFighter04:12
FFighterwbadger, thank you04:15
wbadgernp04:15
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neozeng'morning all05:12
vinzeg'afternoon neozen :)05:13
neozenlol05:13
neozengood point05:13
neozens/g\'morning/salutations/05:13
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KlrSpzanyone have any tips on minimizing ubuntu's disk usage?05:38
KlrSpzi noticed it has a bunch of cruft on there like ALL the xorg drivers (when i only need like 205:39
KlrSpzeven though those don't take much space, what else can be cleared up?05:39
TheSheepKlrSpz: pretty much everything05:41
neozenKlrSpz: just install xubuntu... that'll knock off about 3GB05:41
TheSheepKlrSpz: anthy and chewing stuff if you don't use japanese and chinese05:41
KlrSpzwell i installed xubuntu05:41
TheSheepKlrSpz: many many fonts if you don't need to have exotic web pages displayed properly05:42
KlrSpznot ubuntu, but it still relies on a ton of ubuntu's pkgs and dependancies05:42
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neozenstill quite a bit lighter05:42
TheSheep!xubuntu | KlrSpz05:42
ubotuKlrSpz: xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels05:42
KlrSpzyeah i know what xubuntu is, that's what i have instlaled05:42
KlrSpzbut it still installs a bunch of cruft05:42
TheSheepKlrSpz: xubunut *is* ubuntu, just with different desktop and default applications, still *all* the packages come from ubuntu05:42
KlrSpzok so we're talking in circles05:43
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TheSheepKlrSpz: just remove anything you don't need :)05:43
neozenits still early05:43
KlrSpzmy question wasn't what xubuntu is, but rather what packages are deemed as crap05:43
TheSheepKlrSpz: you have a printer?05:43
KlrSpzyeah05:43
TheSheepKlrSpz: ok, so leave the printing support05:43
TheSheepKlrSpz: bluetooth?05:43
TheSheepKlrSpz: wifi?05:43
KlrSpznope05:43
KlrSpznope05:44
neozenKlrSpz: then whack that stuff out..05:44
TheSheepok, remove bluezutils and bluetooth stuff and wifi-related things05:44
TheSheepKlrSpz: etc.05:44
KlrSpzhmm ok i guess i'll just use synaptic to show me all installed pkgs, and remove as i see fit05:44
KlrSpzman i miss gentoo :)05:45
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neozenKlrSpz: and when you remove the wrong thing..... you'll know05:45
neozenheh.. much love for gentoo05:45
KlrSpzneozen: hah, in what way? is it recoverable generally? (as long as i don't exit the app)05:45
neozen..........depends on what you killed off05:45
KlrSpzi do have to say though, ubuntu has been a hell of an experience... i just like how modular gentoo is05:45
KlrSpzfigured, ok05:45
neozenbut generally yes...05:45
KlrSpzok bbl, hopefully :S05:51
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b0lleHello!. I cant get my orinoco gold card (inserted into pcmcia) to work (no wireless extensions on lo,eth0 or irda0) but i get some info on Socket 0 when i try 'pccardctl ident'. any ideas?06:08
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Merchelo!paste08:53
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)08:53
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zeroflagI just installed xubuntu-desktop and tightvncserver on a (former) ubuntu 7.04. how can I set tvnc up to serve the active xfce session?09:34
zeroflagI don't have a monitor connected, only ssh and vnc.09:35
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jeriko'lo09:38
jerikohow do i edit the items in the 'system' menu?09:40
zeroflagerr, more basic question... how do I start xfce? possibly automagically?09:43
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ScuniziHow do you use Xubuntu to view shared folder on other computers via the LAN?  The other folders are already viewable via smb & nfs in Ubuntu & Kubuntu.. it's just Thunar doesn't have a "Network" folder option like Ubuntu09:48
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zoredacheScunizi: there are a few different ways..  some using fuse to mount things, and one way to use autofs10:10
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syed_hi does anyone know ho to enable pdf thumbnails in xubuntu10:17
zeroflaghow can I turn on xfce on a vnc display?10:17
neozenzeroflag: share display 0 on vnc10:21
neozenzeroflag: provided you're running xfce currently10:21
zeroflagneozen: any details on how to do that?10:28
zeroflagbecause I keep getting errors...10:29
neozenwhich errors?10:29
zeroflagError: Can't open display:10:30
neozenO.o10:30
zeroflagno further details...10:30
neozenok...10:30
neozenwhich vnc server are you using?10:30
zeroflag(xfdesktop:5458): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:10:30
zeroflagI'd like to use tightvnc because it's working nicely on windows...10:30
neozennope10:31
zeroflagbut I'm open for suggestions...10:31
neozenI believe x11vnc will do what you need10:31
zeroflagresumeable x/vnc sessions?10:31
neozenshould be able to share out what is currently displayed on your screen (display 0) and allow remote interaction10:31
neozenif by this you mean multiple sessions of X running..... have no idea10:32
zeroflagwell, there's no display 0 active...10:32
neozen....10:32
neozenhow are you starting X?10:33
zeroflagand I have no idea where to start starting it...10:33
neozentry running startxfce4 from the console on the machine10:33
neozennote... I said console..... not a ssh session... but actually typing into a shell on the box from the keyboard attached to it10:34
zeroflagno such thing. :P10:35
zeroflagI disabled x forwarding...10:35
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jwishnieCan someone explain to me how to set my language/locale default from English to Spanish?10:42
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zeroflaghmmm...10:43
jwishniewhen I change /etc/default/locale to es_MX.UTF_810:43
nanonymeyou people noticed this naming conflict? http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/XUbuntu10:43
zeroflagneozen: I got a vnc connection but no window...10:43
jwishnieeverything still stays english (I have installed spanish language packages)10:43
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b0llei cant get my wifi card in my pcmcia slot to work (pccardctl works tho) but no wireless extensions avalible and no network controller found in 'lspci' any idea?11:35
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F3000Hi. Anyone here?11:54
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F3000Maison?11:58
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F3000Is there typo in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingXubuntu -- it says "startxfce4", while I was told that it's "start xfce4"?12:06
zoredachemaybe...12:13
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