[02:24] <joebob777as7_> ogra, you on?
[02:41] <gotama> Hi! Where can I get some information on how to configure ltsp 5. It seems that lts.conf is no longer the main configuration file.
[02:42] <joebob777as7_> what do you need gotama ?
[02:42] <gotama> configure for sound and the vesa drivers.
[02:43] <gotama> I have tried two days without any results.
[02:43] <joebob777as7_> oh i did it in lts.conf... with the mac address of each unit
[02:44] <gotama> exactly. This is what I need to read. information on configuration.
[02:44] <gotama> seems the ltsp 5 is a little different that ltsp 4.
[02:47] <gotama> Please tell me how can I use the mac address to use the vesa driver.
[02:49] <joebob777as7_> [mac address]  section in lts.conf like this [00:00:00:00:00] 
[02:51] <gotama> Then, what is next XSERVER=vesa ?
[02:52] <joebob777as7_> not sure on that one... just do a search for lts.conf vesa you'll find it
[02:52] <gotama> Ok. Thanks a lot.
[02:54] <joebob777as7_> lol not a big help but np
[03:24] <Meshezabeel> /cls
[04:21] <gotam1> Hi! I'm working with edubuntu 7.04, ltsp 5. The xserver crashes a lot on the thin client. Is there any solution? How can I use the vesa driver? XSERVER  = vesa in the lts.conf file doesn't work.
[04:22] <joebob777as7_> you should be using gutsy... works much better with ltsp 5 gotam1
[04:23] <gotam1> Thanks, I am moving now.
[04:24] <joebob777as7_> ok are you upgrading or starting from the beta from scratch
[04:25] <joebob777as7_> ?
[04:25] <joebob777as7_> gotam1, ?
[04:25] <gotam1> I've have installed edubuntu dapper and one of the oldes thin clients is a pentium I, works fine.
[04:26] <gotam1> But with feisty I got a lot of troubles.
[04:26] <joebob777as7_> yeah but ltsp 5 is leaps and bounds above old ltsp's
[04:26] <joebob777as7_> i had issues with feisty as well
[04:26] <joebob777as7_> go with gutsy. i would start from scratch if possible from the beta download and then run updates
[04:27] <joebob777as7_> you will have an issue with cups for today but should be fixed tomorrow. final release will be in two weeks or so
[04:27] <joebob777as7_> brb in 10
[04:27] <gotam1> AS you say gutsy may be a better solution.
[04:28] <gotam1> I'm going to download it right now, thanks again.
[10:48] <infos> hi
[10:48] <infos> I need help with ltsp
[10:50] <infos> anybody?
[10:56] <infos> wake up people
[12:56] <RichEd> ogra: ping ?
[01:10] <ogra> RichEd, ?
[03:39] <tsurc> I've had an idea about load balancing edubuntu servers. I just don't know if it'll work or if my theory is flawed?
[03:44] <bddebian> Heya
[03:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> hey
[03:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> tsurc, neither do i
[03:44] <bddebian> Hi Kamping_Kaiser
[03:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> bddebian, hows it going?
[03:46] <tsurc> Kamping_Kaiser thanks for that. apparently though loadbalancing is in Gutsy already. So I'll be checking that out.
[03:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> tsurc, cool. let me know what its like
[03:47] <bddebian> Kamping_Kaiser: OK thanks, you?
[03:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> not to bad, thanks
[03:49] <tsurc> Kamping_Kaiser: will do, current;t 57% through a download of edubuntu-7.10-beta-server-i386.iso
[03:49] <tsurc> *currently
[03:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[04:34] <tsurc> Kamping_Kaiser: 100% burning as we speak.... wish me luck!
[04:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> tsurc, good luck!
[04:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> i'm going to bed in a few min, so i'll have to see the result tomorrow am
[04:53] <tsurc> 351pm here got lots of things to do yet. some of which involve giving the wife the heave ho ;) Fireworks anyone?
[04:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> night mate
[04:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> 00:23 here
[05:11] <LaserJock> ogra: is today supposed to be a fix-it-friday?
[05:13] <ogra> LaserJock, given that we onl yhave hours to final rc freeze i wont have time for more than RC bugs
[05:13] <LaserJock> oh, are we that far already?
[05:15] <LaserJock> ogra: how's disc space for RC?
[05:15] <ogra> thats fine
[05:15] <ogra> the udeb isnt
[05:15] <ogra> i'm very busy atm
[05:16] <LaserJock> sorry to bother
[05:16] <LaserJock> I was just thinking I better get the edubuntu-docs translations and upload
[05:18] <ogra> yeah
[05:18] <ogra> they want to freeze today
[05:18] <ogra> my efforts o fix the ltsp progressbar led nowhere its simply not possible to so want i want i think
[05:19] <ogra> so now i try to get it at least back to the feisty state
[05:19] <ogra> and try to get that in before they freeze completely
[05:20] <LaserJock> :/
[05:23] <ogra> hmm, at least the progress for compressing seems to work
[08:45] <joebob777as7_> sbalneav, you on?
[08:45] <joebob777as7_> down here at my other server...
[08:47] <joebob777as7_> ogra, you here?
[09:07] <joebob777as7_> when are times i have to rebuild client images? when i install server updates? when i install client updates?
[09:41] <sbalneav> joebob777as7_: yeah, here
[09:41] <sbalneav> When you touch anything in /opt/ltsp/i386/
[09:42] <joebob777as7_> so not when i install server updates... do i need to when i chroot in to install flash plugin and x11vnc?
[09:42] <joebob777as7_> sbalneav, also looks like my log out issue has gone away... :)
[09:43] <sbalneav> If you chroot in and add something, then you're touching /opt/ltsp/i386/
[09:43] <sbalneav> so yes.
[09:44] <joebob777as7_> ok good to know
[09:44] <joebob777as7_> do any updates on the server ever touch /opt/ltsp/i386/ ?
[09:45] <sbalneav> no
[09:45] <sbalneav> Server updates are fine, but anything you touch in /opt/ltsp, either by direct editing, or via the chroot command, requires a rebuild.
[09:47] <joebob777as7_> if i want to install a bunch of fonts should i just do it in the client chroot or are they different?
[09:48] <sbalneav> AFAIK fonts you can just install on the server, and the RENDER extention to X handles them.
[09:49] <joebob777as7_> ok
[09:50] <cbx33> hey all
[09:50] <sbalneav> Hey cbx33!
[09:51] <cbx33> hey sbalneav
[10:07] <lns> Can anyone share what typing tutor programs they're using under Edubuntu? I am looking for a good solution for elementary school students, something with things like nice graphics and games, but more importantly, progress tracking / reporting for the teachers.
[10:08] <lns> And I don't mean tuxtype or ktouch...those just aren't mature enough for real educational use by many students yet (sorry to say)
[10:09] <sbalneav> Seeing as how I've never actually learned to touch-type, and use a modified 4 finger system of my own design, I'd be the wrong guy to advise you on that :)
[10:10] <joebob777as7_> sbalneav, another question on my client i have chrooted in and was wondering why i'm seeing this:
[10:10] <lns> sbalneav, hahaha
[10:10] <joebob777as7_> http://pastebot.ltsp.org/331
[10:10] <lns> It would be *so* nice to have mavis beacon for linux. I learned on that in jr. high and I can type ~70-80wpm now.
[10:12] <sbalneav> That only gives me a list of what didn't install.  I'm sure there were probably errors for those packages during the install phase.  What were they?
[10:12] <sbalneav> And, do you have /proc mounted in the choot when you're updating?  Some packages look at /proc during install/upgrade.
[10:13] <sbalneav> dbus I know for sure does.
[10:16] <joebob777as7_> i just did sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386/ and then did apt-get update followed by apt-get install (java-package-name)
[10:17] <joebob777as7_> how do i mount proc when updating? never heard of it...
[10:18] <sbalneav> It's on the ubuntu wiki
[10:18] <sbalneav> Also in the handbook
[10:18] <sbalneav> mount -t proc proc /proc
[10:18] <sbalneav> while in the chroot
[10:18] <sbalneav> make sure to umount before you exit the chroot.
[10:19] <joebob777as7_> http://www.pastebin.ca/727164
[10:19] <joebob777as7_> to unmount just umount /proc?
[10:20] <sbalneav> yeah, line 81
[10:20] <sbalneav> Can not write log, openpty() failed (/dev/pts not mounted?)
[10:20] <sbalneav> That's the dbus
[10:20] <sbalneav> while in the chroot, yes.
[10:21] <joebob777as7_> ok thanks again!
[10:28] <joebob777as7_> sbalneav, one other issue we are having when we try to switch users: we get a permissions error
[10:29] <LaserJock> hi cbx33 and sbalneav
[10:29] <joebob777as7_> your user does not have permissions to create additional logins. Check your ~/.Xauthority setup.
[10:29] <joebob777as7_> ~/.Xauthority file badly configured or missing 100 Not authenticated
[10:31] <sbalneav> Quite possible.  Sounds like a bug
[10:31] <sbalneav> File a bug for it, and we can have a look at it.
[10:31] <joebob777as7_> ok does it have anything to me chmoding my user dirs to 701?
[10:31] <joebob777as7_> do i file it under ltsp-server?
[10:33] <sbalneav> joebob777as7_: Entirely possible, include that info in your bug report.
[10:33] <sbalneav> ltsp-server's fine.
[10:34] <sbalneav> Dunno if we'll get to it for gutsy or not, but it'll be fixed for hardy anyway.
[10:34] <joebob777as7_> bug fixes don't happen for updates?
[10:35] <sbalneav> Depends on if it's considered critical or not.
[10:35] <sbalneav> And/or we can find enough people to test it :)
[10:35] <sbalneav> And/or figure out how to fix it :)
[10:41] <joebob777as7_> some users are also not able to print. what log should i be looking at to see why?
[10:41] <joebob777as7_> i don't know if it's this or not: http://www.pastebin.ca/727191
[10:42] <sbalneav> Yeah, printing's not here.
[10:42] <sbalneav> #ubuntu+1
[10:43] <joebob777as7_> even if the server prints fine always?
[10:44] <sbalneav> You're running the printing on the server, right?
[10:44] <sbalneav> i.e., the programs are running on the server.
[10:45] <joebob777as7_> yes
[10:45] <sbalneav> So if the program's running on the server, and the print queue's on the server, you're problems on the server.
[10:45] <joebob777as7_> ok