=== Meshezabeel [n=kevin@216-197-208-54.prna.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === ace_suares [n=ace@fupi.suares.an] has joined #edubuntu === merriam [n=merriam@85-211-143-106.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu === joebob777as7_ [n=richard@168-103-51-181.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:24] ogra, you on? === tck [n=tck@212.2.183.118] has joined #edubuntu === gotama [n=manager@218-169-3-128.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:41] Hi! Where can I get some information on how to configure ltsp 5. It seems that lts.conf is no longer the main configuration file. [02:42] what do you need gotama ? [02:42] configure for sound and the vesa drivers. [02:43] I have tried two days without any results. [02:43] oh i did it in lts.conf... with the mac address of each unit [02:44] exactly. This is what I need to read. information on configuration. [02:44] seems the ltsp 5 is a little different that ltsp 4. [02:47] Please tell me how can I use the mac address to use the vesa driver. [02:49] [mac address] section in lts.conf like this [00:00:00:00:00] [02:51] Then, what is next XSERVER=vesa ? [02:52] not sure on that one... just do a search for lts.conf vesa you'll find it [02:52] Ok. Thanks a lot. [02:54] lol not a big help but np === gotama [n=manager@218-169-3-128.dynamic.hinet.net] has left #edubuntu [] === boyam [n=ubuntu@166-82-170-77.quickclick.ctc.net] has joined #edubuntu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-175-179.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:24] /cls === joebob777as7_ [n=richard@168-103-51-181.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #edubuntu === JohanSalim|NA [n=guest@ip84-223.cbn.net.id] has joined #edubuntu === Meshezabeel [n=kevin@216-197-208-54.prna.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has left #edubuntu [] === oshiii-_^ [n=h1@unaffiliated/oshiii/x-3278] has joined #edubuntu === scguy318 [n=nodisgod@pool-71-123-180-118.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === scguy318 [n=nodisgod@pool-71-123-180-118.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has left #edubuntu [] === gotam1 [n=manager@218-169-3-128.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:21] Hi! I'm working with edubuntu 7.04, ltsp 5. The xserver crashes a lot on the thin client. Is there any solution? How can I use the vesa driver? XSERVER = vesa in the lts.conf file doesn't work. [04:22] you should be using gutsy... works much better with ltsp 5 gotam1 [04:23] Thanks, I am moving now. [04:24] ok are you upgrading or starting from the beta from scratch [04:25] ? [04:25] gotam1, ? [04:25] I've have installed edubuntu dapper and one of the oldes thin clients is a pentium I, works fine. [04:26] But with feisty I got a lot of troubles. [04:26] yeah but ltsp 5 is leaps and bounds above old ltsp's [04:26] i had issues with feisty as well [04:26] go with gutsy. i would start from scratch if possible from the beta download and then run updates [04:27] you will have an issue with cups for today but should be fixed tomorrow. final release will be in two weeks or so [04:27] brb in 10 [04:27] AS you say gutsy may be a better solution. [04:28] I'm going to download it right now, thanks again. === gotam1 [n=manager@218-169-3-128.dynamic.hinet.net] has left #edubuntu [] === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.118.4.31] has joined #edubuntu === kgoetz [n=kgoetz@gnewsense/friend/kgoetz] has joined #edubuntu === Joris_ [i=joris@082-146-097-242.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be] has joined #edubuntu === Rondom [n=Rondom@p57A94B58.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === siimo [n=siimo@unaffiliated/siimo] has joined #edubuntu === siimo [n=siimo@unaffiliated/siimo] has left #edubuntu [] === oshiii-_^ [n=h1@unaffiliated/oshiii/x-3278] has joined #edubuntu === oshiii-_^ [n=h1@unaffiliated/oshiii/x-3278] has joined #edubuntu === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === jbrefort [n=jean@mar44-2-82-227-215-241.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.118.4.31] has joined #edubuntu === migi [i=migi@nat/sun/x-5b237ffcfb36ac04] has joined #edubuntu === infos [n=infos@213.89.149.87] has joined #edubuntu [10:48] hi [10:48] I need help with ltsp [10:50] anybody? [10:56] wake up people === RichEd [n=richard@dsl-245-186-239.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === `6og is now known as Kamping_Kaiser === Blats [n=owboo@ppp2-210.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu [12:56] ogra: ping ? [01:10] RichEd, ? === charlie_21 [n=charlie@60.sub-70-194-123.myvzw.com] has joined #edubuntu === vistakiller [n=spiros@ppp254-166.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #edubuntu === joebaker [n=joebaker@rrcs-67-52-198-66.west.biz.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === tsurc [n=alistair@skegnessgrammar.plus.com] has joined #edubuntu [03:39] I've had an idea about load balancing edubuntu servers. I just don't know if it'll work or if my theory is flawed? === bddebian [n=bddebian@c-71-224-175-179.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:44] Heya [03:44] hey [03:44] tsurc, neither do i [03:44] Hi Kamping_Kaiser [03:45] bddebian, hows it going? === Kamping_Kaiser wonders where your cloak went [03:46] Kamping_Kaiser thanks for that. apparently though loadbalancing is in Gutsy already. So I'll be checking that out. [03:47] tsurc, cool. let me know what its like [03:47] Kamping_Kaiser: OK thanks, you? [03:47] not to bad, thanks [03:49] Kamping_Kaiser: will do, current;t 57% through a download of edubuntu-7.10-beta-server-i386.iso [03:49] *currently [03:50] :) === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === Castigador [n=Alfredo@88.Red-80-38-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:34] Kamping_Kaiser: 100% burning as we speak.... wish me luck! [04:36] tsurc, good luck! [04:36] i'm going to bed in a few min, so i'll have to see the result tomorrow am === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu [04:53] 351pm here got lots of things to do yet. some of which involve giving the wife the heave ho ;) Fireworks anyone? [04:53] night mate [04:53] 00:23 here === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu [05:11] ogra: is today supposed to be a fix-it-friday? [05:13] LaserJock, given that we onl yhave hours to final rc freeze i wont have time for more than RC bugs [05:13] oh, are we that far already? [05:15] ogra: how's disc space for RC? [05:15] thats fine [05:15] the udeb isnt [05:15] i'm very busy atm [05:16] sorry to bother === pusakat [i=xenos@born.free.net.ph] has joined #edubuntu [05:16] I was just thinking I better get the edubuntu-docs translations and upload [05:18] yeah [05:18] they want to freeze today [05:18] my efforts o fix the ltsp progressbar led nowhere its simply not possible to so want i want i think [05:19] so now i try to get it at least back to the feisty state [05:19] and try to get that in before they freeze completely [05:20] :/ [05:23] hmm, at least the progress for compressing seems to work === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === pusakat [i=xenos@born.free.net.ph] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === vistakiller [n=spiros@ppp254-166.adsl.forthnet.gr] has left #edubuntu [] === edubuntugirl [n=edubuntu@ubuntu/bot/edubuntugirl] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #edubuntu === tck [n=tck@212.2.164.6] has joined #edubuntu === stgraber [n=stgraber@dakara.stgraber.org] has joined #edubuntu === oshiii-_^ [n=h1@unaffiliated/oshiii/x-3278] has joined #edubuntu === oshiii-_^ [n=h1@unaffiliated/oshiii/x-3278] has joined #edubuntu === joebob777as7_ [n=joebob77@71-210-26-126.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #edubuntu [08:45] sbalneav, you on? [08:45] down here at my other server... [08:47] ogra, you here? === pauljw [n=paul@pool77.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #edubuntu [09:07] when are times i have to rebuild client images? when i install server updates? when i install client updates? [09:41] joebob777as7_: yeah, here [09:41] When you touch anything in /opt/ltsp/i386/ [09:42] so not when i install server updates... do i need to when i chroot in to install flash plugin and x11vnc? [09:42] sbalneav, also looks like my log out issue has gone away... :) [09:43] If you chroot in and add something, then you're touching /opt/ltsp/i386/ [09:43] so yes. [09:44] ok good to know [09:44] do any updates on the server ever touch /opt/ltsp/i386/ ? [09:45] no [09:45] Server updates are fine, but anything you touch in /opt/ltsp, either by direct editing, or via the chroot command, requires a rebuild. [09:47] if i want to install a bunch of fonts should i just do it in the client chroot or are they different? [09:48] AFAIK fonts you can just install on the server, and the RENDER extention to X handles them. [09:49] ok === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu [09:50] hey all [09:50] Hey cbx33! [09:51] hey sbalneav [10:07] Can anyone share what typing tutor programs they're using under Edubuntu? I am looking for a good solution for elementary school students, something with things like nice graphics and games, but more importantly, progress tracking / reporting for the teachers. [10:08] And I don't mean tuxtype or ktouch...those just aren't mature enough for real educational use by many students yet (sorry to say) [10:09] Seeing as how I've never actually learned to touch-type, and use a modified 4 finger system of my own design, I'd be the wrong guy to advise you on that :) [10:10] sbalneav, another question on my client i have chrooted in and was wondering why i'm seeing this: [10:10] sbalneav, hahaha [10:10] http://pastebot.ltsp.org/331 [10:10] It would be *so* nice to have mavis beacon for linux. I learned on that in jr. high and I can type ~70-80wpm now. [10:12] That only gives me a list of what didn't install. I'm sure there were probably errors for those packages during the install phase. What were they? [10:12] And, do you have /proc mounted in the choot when you're updating? Some packages look at /proc during install/upgrade. [10:13] dbus I know for sure does. === Meshezabeel [n=kevin@216-197-208-54.prna.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined #edubuntu [10:16] i just did sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386/ and then did apt-get update followed by apt-get install (java-package-name) [10:17] how do i mount proc when updating? never heard of it... [10:18] It's on the ubuntu wiki [10:18] Also in the handbook [10:18] mount -t proc proc /proc [10:18] while in the chroot [10:18] make sure to umount before you exit the chroot. [10:19] http://www.pastebin.ca/727164 [10:19] to unmount just umount /proc? [10:20] yeah, line 81 [10:20] Can not write log, openpty() failed (/dev/pts not mounted?) [10:20] That's the dbus [10:20] while in the chroot, yes. [10:21] ok thanks again! [10:28] sbalneav, one other issue we are having when we try to switch users: we get a permissions error [10:29] hi cbx33 and sbalneav [10:29] your user does not have permissions to create additional logins. Check your ~/.Xauthority setup. [10:29] ~/.Xauthority file badly configured or missing 100 Not authenticated === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #edubuntu [10:31] Quite possible. Sounds like a bug [10:31] File a bug for it, and we can have a look at it. [10:31] ok does it have anything to me chmoding my user dirs to 701? [10:31] do i file it under ltsp-server? [10:33] joebob777as7_: Entirely possible, include that info in your bug report. [10:33] ltsp-server's fine. [10:34] Dunno if we'll get to it for gutsy or not, but it'll be fixed for hardy anyway. [10:34] bug fixes don't happen for updates? [10:35] Depends on if it's considered critical or not. [10:35] And/or we can find enough people to test it :) [10:35] And/or figure out how to fix it :) [10:41] some users are also not able to print. what log should i be looking at to see why? [10:41] i don't know if it's this or not: http://www.pastebin.ca/727191 === cliebow [n=cliebow@cpe-72-224-137-51.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu [10:42] Yeah, printing's not here. [10:42] #ubuntu+1 [10:43] even if the server prints fine always? [10:44] You're running the printing on the server, right? [10:44] i.e., the programs are running on the server. [10:45] yes [10:45] So if the program's running on the server, and the print queue's on the server, you're problems on the server. [10:45] ok === RichEd-1 [n=richard@dsl-245-186-239.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === joebob777as7_ [n=joebob77@71-210-26-126.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #edubuntu === JordanC [n=MasterPl@host86-130-152-62.range86-130.btcentralplus.com] has joined #edubuntu === joebob777as7_ [n=joebob77@71-210-26-126.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #edubuntu === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #edubuntu === tck [n=tck@212.2.164.6] has joined #edubuntu