[01:05] <LaserJock> beuno: having some connection problems? :-)
[01:06] <beuno> LaserJock, more like fighting with IRSSI to place the channels in the order *I* want and not the order *it* wants
[01:06] <beuno> I won  :D
[01:09] <LaserJock> lol
[01:17] <Rinchen> wow, we have a record number of users on channel
[01:18] <Rinchen> LaserJock, do the motu's hang out on ubuntu-devel too?
[01:21] <Rinchen> LaserJock, unping. I think I'll go a different route.
[01:25] <LaserJock> Rinchen: sorry, was reading Wikipedia article on passwords
[01:26] <LaserJock> Rinchen: most MOTUs hang out in ubuntu-devel too
[01:26] <LaserJock> Burgundavia: hi there
[01:26] <Burgundavia> hey LaserJock
[01:26] <Rinchen> I'm toying with ways to improve the clarity of the blueprint status names
[01:26] <Rinchen> I'm going to do some internal digging.
[01:26] <LaserJock> ah
[01:27] <LaserJock> Rinchen: if you want MOTU feedback let me know what you want and I'll be happy to email ubuntu-motu
[01:27] <Rinchen> I decided to go via dholbach on this... I can kill a few birds that way
[01:27] <Rinchen> thanks
[01:28] <LaserJock> Burgundavia: so when are we gonna start seeing your stories?
[01:28] <Burgundavia> they are in the queue
[01:28] <LaserJock> Burgundavia: really?
[01:28] <Burgundavia> three are, in half written form
[01:28] <Burgundavia> going to finish some tonight
[01:28] <Burgundavia> 7th is 10 days from release
[01:36] <popey> hey Burgundavia
[01:36] <Burgundavia> hey popey
[01:36] <popey> you going to be at UDS by any chance?
[01:36] <Burgundavia> yep
[01:36] <popey> yay
[01:36] <popey> me too
[01:36] <Burgundavia> pretty much slot it in the one week I don't have exams
[01:37] <LaserJock> I'm not coming sadly :(
[01:37] <popey> :(
[01:37] <LaserJock> gotta finish the PhD
[01:37] <Burgundavia> you poor soul
[01:37] <Burgundavia> we will see you at UDS+!
[01:37] <LaserJock> and taking 1-1.5 weeks off every 6 months is not making my advisor so happy
[01:37] <Burgundavia> UDS+1, rather
[01:38] <LaserJock> but I so wanted to go to Boston
[01:38] <LaserJock> I always wanted to go to MIT as a kid
[01:39] <LaserJock> how nerdy
[01:39] <Burgundavia> heh
[01:39] <Burgundavia> so did I
[08:55] <mdke> beuno: awake?
[04:18] <beuno> mdke, pong
[04:59] <Rinchen> wow, look at all these fridge people
[07:56] <mdke> hi beuno, was chasing about this mailing list business. Have you seen the updated spec?
[07:56] <mdke> beuno: are you still on holiday by the way?
[07:57] <beuno> mdke, I saw the changes in the wiki yes
[07:57] <beuno> I'm... on and off  :D
[07:57] <beuno> reading more the writing
[07:58] <mdke> beuno: when are you back?
[07:59] <beuno> mdke, I was planning on a month, so that would be ~3 more weeks, but I'm interested in this, so I'm going to try and work with you anyway
[07:59] <beuno> what are we missing?
[08:00] <beuno> ML is setup
[08:00] <mdke> ok
[08:00] <beuno> we need to discuss how to implement it, right?
[08:00] <mdke> I was thinking of a few things we need to address, let me try and remember them
[08:00] <mdke> oh yeah, redirects for the old address
[08:00] <mdke> address(es)
[08:00] <beuno> are their any teams that haven't embrassed the change?
[08:01] <mdke> well, the magazine team hasn't discussed it afaik, i think we should proceed on the basis that they can join if they find the list useful
[08:01] <beuno> alright, sounds resonable
[08:02] <beuno> we should talk to a canonical sysadmin about the redirects
[08:02] <beuno> ir ahve you arleady dug into that?
[08:02] <mdke> from memory, the marketing team and fridge team haven't objected, except for vid, and hopefully I've addressed her issues in my last email
[08:02] <mdke> no, I haven't investigated yet
[08:03] <mdke> popey might know already (how to redirect different addresses within a mailman installation)
[08:03] <beuno> I think it's pretty easy, the question is if the sysadmin will be able too
[08:05] <mdke> they can do anything
[08:05] <mdke> within reason :)
[08:06] <beuno> good
[08:06] <beuno> and #ubuntu-news has been functional for months now
[08:06] <beuno> we use ot for UWN
[08:06] <mdke> oh really
[08:07] <beuno> yeap yeap
[08:07] <popey> hmm
[08:08] <popey> i wouldn't necessarily redirect, because that gives people the false impression that they are sending their mail to the right place
[08:09] <popey> I would bounce it with an administrative message to say the list is closed and give the new address
[08:09] <popey> so people make note of it
[08:09] <beuno> that is probably best
[08:09] <beuno> and trivial to setup
[08:09] <mdke> that works, especially if the main way to submit stories is via a web form (is that far away?)
[08:10] <popey> thats easy
[08:10] <popey> you can do that in drupal
[08:10] <beuno> yeap
[08:10] <mdke> yeah
[08:10] <beuno> I'm sure Rinchen can get that done by the end of the day
[08:10] <popey> 5 min job
[08:10] <popey> :)
[08:10] <mdke> I recall carthick doing some work towards setting that up
[08:29] <Rinchen> I have in the works a way to have stories submitted via webpage on the fridge. Better than what we have now. Although, it seems to have stalled
[08:45] <beuno> Rinchen, this would basically be a formw hich send out an email to the ML
[08:45] <Rinchen> beuno, I'm a bit dense sorry. Please restate what the request is.
[08:45] <beuno> a form to submit news to the -news-team ML
[08:46] <beuno> which, I guess, would also be useful for the fridge
[08:46] <beuno> or it superposes it too
[08:46] <beuno> mdke?
[08:47] <Rinchen> well
[08:47] <Rinchen> we could do this:
[08:47] <Rinchen> Send everyone and their mother too to fridge.ubuntu.com/submitnews
[08:47] <Rinchen> It's a long shot but I might be able to get news.ubuntu.com setup for that
[08:48] <beuno> that would rock
[08:48] <beuno> we could start with a form that sends it to the ML
[08:48] <beuno> and go from there
[08:49] <Rinchen> yeah.  My first choice would be submit as story to the fridge.
[08:49] <Rinchen> Anyway, if you or mdke could spec that out for me, I can see about getting it handled
[08:49] <beuno> Rinchen, but that wold exclude UWN and Full Circle
[08:50] <beuno> we would have to think about the pros/cons on that
[08:51] <Rinchen> I'm quite happy to do the  "one ring to rule them all" approach
[08:51] <beuno> great, me too
[08:51] <Rinchen> I think a single place to submit news would be ducky
[08:51] <Rinchen> as in good