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[08:33] <kraut> moin
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[09:30] <bullgard4> What file contains the algorithm to calculate the 'remaining capacity' in /proc/acpi/bat/BAT0/state?
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[10:26] <amitk> bullgard4: that info should come directly from the battery, no? you can try looking at drivers/acpi/battery.c
[10:26] <mjg59> bullgard4: It's in the ACPI spec.
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[01:05] <pkern> Bah, yeah deactivating fglrx kernel module gives me suspend and no 3d acceleration, but it also kills off xv.
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[02:24] <bdgraue> i think i'm affected by https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22/+bug/121978
[02:24] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121978 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 "Unknown symbol in module fcpci.ko" [Medium,Triaged]  
[02:24] <bdgraue> http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/15712/
[02:24] <bdgraue> any idea what i can do now?
[02:34] <kraut> wait
[02:34] <kraut> or fix it
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[05:48] <bdmurray> Is booting with "vga=XYZ" as a kernel option supported?  What modes should work if so?
[05:51] <zul> bdmurray: i would yes to the first question, and Im not sure for the second question but can use vga=ask and it should tell you which ones are available
[05:52] <rtg> bdmurray: I was messing with vga options while implementing VESA FB as a module. I never did find one that worked, but BenC_was recently testing it.
[05:55] <bdmurray> I've seen more than one bug report where people lose vty1-4 when booting with vga=XYZ
[05:55] <bdmurray> They seem to indicate that it worked with Feisty
[05:55] <kylem> yes, well, maybe they just shouldn't do that then.
[05:56] <bdmurray> Right, I'd just like a definitive answer, maybe with a techincal reason, of don't do that or not.
[05:58] <kylem> what's the bug #?
[05:59] <bdmurray> bug 148759 for example
[05:59] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 148759 in ubuntu "no graphics on console when using vga=791 as a kernel boot option" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148759
[06:01] <bdmurray> I'm looking for the other one that has more subscribers etc
[06:03] <bdmurray> bug 148657 too
[06:03] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 148657 in linux-source-2.6.22 "[regression]  framebuffer resolutions broken " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148657
[06:04] <bdmurray> bug 147606
[06:04] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 147606 in linux-source-2.6.22 "Intelfb completely b0rken" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/147606
[06:04] <kylem> what the fuck
[06:04] <kylem> Same here.
[06:04] <kylem> This may be related to problem in Bug 149071.
[06:04] <kylem> Loye Young
[06:04] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 149071 in linux-source-2.6.22 "-server kernel variant fails to boot on PowerEdge 2650 with AACRAID timeouts" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149071
[06:04] <kylem> riight
[06:04] <kylem> there is too much stupidity in the world.
[06:05] <kylem> i should stop being a kernel hacker and become an arms dealer.
[06:05] <kylem> anyone know where i can get weapons grade plutonium?
[06:05] <bdmurray> Eh, I figure that comment is a typo
[06:06] <bdmurray> I know this Doctor Brown who has some plutonium
[06:06] <kylem> no, he probably saw the word "compaq"
[06:10] <bdmurray> Okay, I found it.  bug 129910
[06:10] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 129910 in initramfs-tools "tty[1-6]  are active but display nothing in Gutsy" [High,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129910
[06:13] <bdmurray> So, I'd like to know what to do with those bugs.
[06:13] <kylem> reject them?
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[06:16] <timbba> mjg59: I told you yesterday about the wireless keyboard problems after suspend... I didn't create any new bug because I think #120074 is close to my issue
[06:17] <timbba> I have had sometimes problems also with cold reboot that I have to replug the usb receiver
[06:17] <timbba> that is rare.. but still.. 
[06:18] <timbba> after suspend I have to replug always... And this was working on Edgy with the same receiver but then I had different motherboard
[06:18] <kylem> bdmurray, we fixed it anyway, vesa is a module again
[06:19] <bdmurray> kylem: fixed it for when?
[06:19] <kylem> -whatever got uploaded
[06:19] <bdmurray> durh, I mean will it be fixed in the next kernel?
[06:20] <kylem> yes.
[06:20] <bdmurray> Okay, great.  Incidentally when will that be available?
[06:21] <kylem> someday.
[06:21] <rtg> bdmurray: its in the achive now.
[06:26] <timbba> Does someone know anything about the #120074? I think mjg59 is right now busy..
[06:26] <kylem> i suppose someone needs to fix initramfs-tools or whatever to make /etc/modules right
[06:27] <timbba> I'm just curious to know is there something that can be tried... even though not a real fix for it
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[06:30] <timbba> By the way, I tried also to replug the receiver when the computer was in suspended mode... then after waking up, the keyboard/mouse worked 
[06:30] <timbba> But the replug is needed always...
[06:34] <mjg59> timbba: No, I'm not convinced that's the same. Please file a new bug.
[06:53] <timbba> ok.. I will fill a new bug...
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[07:55] <osmosis> zul: im stuck on brctl so far. not auto-setup.
[07:56] <zul> ok there should be a fix for it this weekend
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[08:19] <zul> rtg: ping can we get bug #148854 in?
[08:19] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 148854 in linux-source-2.6.22 "vmalloc occasionally fails on x86_64" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148854
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[08:20] <zul> hey BenC 
[08:20] <BenC> hey
[08:21] <zul> rtg: 7ac674f52778b95450509357435320be1d795248 in linus's tree
[08:28] <rtg> zul: hmm, all of the great minds like it. I'll get it after lunch.
[08:28] <zul> rtg: ok
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[08:46] <superm1> BenC, bdmurray was saying that you are remastering a test ISO with unionfs reverted to an old version.  Can you refer me to the deb you are using to do this?  Or at least the kernel module, and i'll pop it onto a mythbuntu test iso  where we were encountering the issues too?
[08:47] <BenC> superm1: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~bcollins/
[08:47] <BenC> superm1: there's a .ko file there that can replace the unionfs.ko on the current cd's (-12-generic kernel)
[08:47] <superm1> BenC, i'm assuming that i can't rmmod/modprobe it in the live disk though, i'll have to remaster from scratch, correct?
[08:47] <BenC> superm1: right
[08:48] <superm1> okay i'll see what i can do
[08:48] <BenC> superm1: you may be able to boot a livecd with break=top, use a usb stick to insmod it, and continue on
[08:48] <BenC> but I haven't tested that
[08:48] <BenC> I built the ISO because it's easier for your users to test :)
[08:48] <superm1> BenC, well remastering shouldn't be too much trouble.  our build process is conducive to allowing putting things like this in
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[09:15] <Rene> hi
[09:16] <Rene> can someone help me with this problem here please ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/112132
[09:16] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 112132 in linux-source-2.6.20 "failed to set xfer mode error." [Medium,Confirmed]  
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[09:19] <joebaker> Can we get this turned on by default in the Gutsy release?  "PROVIDE_RTC_INTERRUPT=Y"   Virtualization clients end up with lots of "Missing Interrupt errors" without it filling up logs.
[09:19] <joebaker> I don't know what the impact might be for the average user.
[09:20] <joebaker> Those who recompiled their kernels reported it fixing the problems running virtual machines.
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[09:33] <BenC> joebaker: too late for any more changes
[09:34] <BenC> unless the fate of humanity hangs in the balance, the kernel is pretty much set in stone right now :)
[09:34] <superm1> BenC, it still hangs for my remastered disk
[09:34] <BenC> superm1: hangs or oopses?
[09:35] <BenC> booting without quite/splash should show something
[09:35] <superm1> BenC, just a hang.  i've only reproduced the oops once.  
[09:35] <BenC> *quiet
[09:35] <superm1> BenC, it hangs when apt starts thrashing (during an install)
[09:35] <BenC> I'm not sure a hang was involved in this problem
[09:35] <superm1> well the deal was similar to one of pitti's bugs.  his oops'ed during the apt trashing
[09:36] <superm1> we've gotten me and one other person to get it to oops right there, but otherwise it is a flat out hang
[09:36] <BenC> hmm
[09:36] <BenC> superm1: are you sure you are using unionfs-1.4?
[09:37] <BenC> superm1: you should make sure that dmesg reports 1.4 as the unionfs version
[09:37] <superm1> you mean 2.1.4
[09:37] <BenC> no, I mean 1.4
[09:37] <joebaker> There is a bug which has requested the PROVIDE_RTC_INTERUPT=Y.   I'm trying to find it.
[09:37] <BenC> joebaker: it wont get turned on for gutsy
[09:37] <superm1> BenC, hm um it indicates "Registering unionfs 2.1.4 (for 2.6.22.6)"
[09:38] <joebaker> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kqemu/+bug/82149
[09:38] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 82149 in kqemu "When using kqemu, rtc: lost some interrupts at 1024Hz." [Undecided,New]  
[09:38] <BenC> superm1: did you regen the initrd with the new unionfs.ko in place?
[09:38] <superm1> BenC, oh oops ;)
[09:38] <BenC> superm1: and then copy that initrd to /casper/initrd.gz on the CD filesystem
[09:38] <superm1> just dropped it in place, didn't even think to regenerate the initrd.gz
[09:38] <superm1> i'll remaster another
[09:38] <BenC> yeah, it's using the wrong one then
[09:39] <joebaker> OK thanks for the answer.  I understand the reasons.  I applaud the wonderful rate at which work is getting done.
[09:39] <heno> I've posted a custom entry for tacking the unionfs ISO: https://iso.qa.stgraber.org
[09:42] <BenC> joebaker: thanks, we can work on getting it correct and tested in next release
[09:42] <BenC> heno: great thanks
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[09:43] <zul> put some sun tan lotion on then 
[09:43] <BenC> going to fetch some cigs and a 12 pack to celebrate the end of the work day
[09:43] <zul> BenC: just dont ride any buses ;)
[09:44] <zul> righ im heading off as well later
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[10:15] <stgraber> BenC: anything you want me to do to make sure that unionfs is now working correctly ? I did the two things that usually make it crash (partitionning using ubiquity and aptitude update) and didn't see any unionfs related message in syslog
[10:17] <BenC> stgraber: 1) Make sure you see "unionfs 1.4" in dmesg, and run through a normal install
[10:18] <BenC> stgraber: if that works, then I'm happy
[10:18] <superm1> BenC, yeah i got mine with unionfs 1.4 in dmesg this time around
[10:18] <superm1> doing my install right now
[10:18] <stgraber> BenC: Registering unionfs 1.4, debbuging is not enabled are the only two messages I have in syslog
[10:18] <stgraber> BenC: install goes fine for now (55%)
[10:18] <BenC> stgraber: perfect, then the results are useful
[10:22] <superm1> BenC, made it through the stages that usually mess up for us as well
[10:22] <BenC> superm1: excellent
[10:22] <BenC> nice end to a rough week
[10:23] <stgraber> BenC: install finished, still nothing in syslog. Seems all good
[10:27] <BenC> stgraber, superm1: thanks for the testing
[10:27] <BenC> I'm out of here
[10:27] <superm1> BenC, hopefully this is the end of the troubles with it :)
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[11:16] <bdmurray> superm1: Are you registered at the test tracker?
[11:16] <superm1> bdmurray, No
[11:16] <superm1> should I be?
[11:18] <bdmurray> I'm not sure how useful it would be for you as it is for recording tests about Ubuntu / Kubuntu  and Edubuntu
[11:19] <superm1> ah i see
[11:19] <superm1> well eventually we're going to look at becoming canonical sanctioned, but that will be some time
[11:19] <superm1> probably more useful at that point
[11:19] <bdmurray> Yeah, probably.
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[11:45] <rtg> BenC, kylem: I pushed Gutsy l-b-m. Have a look and tell me how many packaging rules I've violated.
[11:45] <bdmurray> rtg: Is it too late to get cherry pick bug fixes in?
[11:46] <kylem> ok, have a nice weekend
[11:46] <rtg> bdmurray: I think you'll have to ask BenC.
[11:46] <rtg> for a policy decision, I mean.
[11:46] <BenC> bdmurray: unless they are extremely serious, we're done with kernel for gutsy
[11:47] <rtg> BenC: how about 'vmalloc occasionally fails on x86_64' ?
[11:47] <bdmurray> Okay, that is what I had suspected.
[11:47] <BenC> rtg:     UBUNTU: Exclude xen from ALSA build.
[11:47] <BenC> rtg: why?
[11:47] <rtg> It don't build.
[11:48] <rtg> I didn't dig much deeper then that.
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[11:50] <bdmurray> rtg: That's the bug I was looking at
[11:50] <BenC> rtg: fyi, lbm uses the startnewrelease/insertchanges like linux-source
[11:51] <rtg> BenC: I wasn't sure I was done developing. Don't you do that just after uploading?
[11:51] <BenC> rtg: and no need to add alsa to the updates-modules udeb, that's only for the installer (and sound isn't needed for the alternate installs)
[11:51] <BenC> rtg: startnewrelease puts the empty changelog entry in (you've manually added a stanza)
[11:53] <BenC> rtg: wow, alsa is some ugly stuff
[11:54] <rtg> I couldn't build from kernel git because of include file clashes.
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