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| dthacker | @schedule chicago | 02:31 |
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| kraut | moin | 08:32 |
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| profoX` | Hi everyone. Can someone tell me when the next Community Council meeting takes place? | 01:25 |
| profoX` | I can't find it in the Fridge Event Calendar, and the wikipage says "next meeting: 27 september" :-) | 01:26 |
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| popey | profoX`: if it's not on the wiki then it's not scheduled yet | 02:10 |
| profoX` | popey: oh okay, thank you :) | 02:11 |
| popey | np | 02:11 |
| zul | @schedule montreal | 02:12 |
| ubotu | Schedule for America/Montreal: 05 Oct 16:00: MOTU | 06 Oct 13:00: Xubuntu Developers | 10 Oct 08:00: Forum Council | 10 Oct 12:00: QA Team | 11 Oct 11:00: Community Development Team | 16 Oct 12:00: Kernel Team | 02:12 |
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| mdz | Mithrandir: did MootBot give you output? it's not in the output directory linked from the wiki | 04:46 |
| Mithrandir | mdz: http://kryten.incognitus.net/mootbot/meetings/ubuntu-mobile.log.20071004_1705.html (or http://kryten.incognitus.net/mootbot/meetings/ubuntu-mobile.20071004_1705.html) | 04:48 |
| mdz | Mithrandir: thanks | 04:49 |
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| jpatrick | isn't the MOTU meeting now? | 09:10 |
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| pochu | @schedule | 09:12 |
| ubotu | Schedule for Etc/UTC: 05 Oct 20:00: MOTU | 06 Oct 17:00: Xubuntu Developers | 10 Oct 12:00: Forum Council | 10 Oct 16:00: QA Team | 11 Oct 15:00: Community Development Team | 16 Oct 16:00: Kernel Team | 09:12 |
| geser | jpatrick: in 45 minutes | 09:15 |
| jpatrick | ah, +2 here then | 09:15 |
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| norsetto | * cough * * cough * | 10:06 |
| geser | let's see how else is here for a MOTU meeting | 10:07 |
| === persia is present | ||
| === norsetto ponders who the chairperson is | ||
| persia | I'll chair, if nobody else wants it. | 10:09 |
| geser | norsetto: let's see first if there are people attending the meeting | 10:10 |
| juliux | hi geser | 10:10 |
| norsetto | geser: do we need a quorum? | 10:10 |
| geser | norsetto: no, but without people attending a meeting is useless | 10:11 |
| geser | Hi juliux | 10:11 |
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| ScottK | Hello. | 10:11 |
| geser | Hi ScottK | 10:11 |
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| norsetto | geser: then, yes, we need it | 10:11 |
| persia | norsetto: It's more a matter of the topics of discussion. For the fixed topics, it's usually safe to agree even without many people. | 10:12 |
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| geser | is the agenda uptodate? | 10:13 |
| geser | the page still lists sep 21st as date | 10:14 |
| persia | I think the agenda is from the last meeting. ScottK: is there more PPA discussion needed? | 10:14 |
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| ScottK | No. I don't think so. | 10:14 |
| ScottK | That does sound like from the last meeting. | 10:14 |
| === persia updates the agenda | ||
| ScottK | One PPA issue that I will mention since people are here is that currently if an orig.tar.gz has been uploaded to a PPA, Soyuz will think it has it already, not fetch it, and then fail to find it for a sync. | 10:16 |
| ScottK | So if a version has been in a PPA, syncs don't work out so well at the moment. | 10:16 |
| === pochu has experienced that :( | ||
| pochu | btw hello everybody :) | 10:17 |
| persia | ScottK: Surely that's a bug. | 10:17 |
| ScottK | persia: It is. | 10:17 |
| ScottK | But we've probably got it with us until after the Gutsy release, so FYI. | 10:17 |
| geser | ScottK: does this also affect new revisions or only new upstream versions? | 10:19 |
| ScottK | geser: I think it's just new upstream versions. | 10:19 |
| ScottK | If soyuz actually has the orig.tar.gz available it's fine. | 10:19 |
| geser | is a workaround known? in case one needs to sync a new version | 10:19 |
| ScottK | pitti has a script he's handed out to make the correct .changes package and upload it. It's on one of his web pages. | 10:20 |
| ScottK | geser: It's the same one I used (when I shouldn't have) when I stepped on your websvn sync request. | 10:21 |
| persia | OK. Welcome to the MOTU Meeting for 5th October 2007. The Agenda is available from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Meetings. | 10:22 |
| persia | Any volunteers to take / publish minutes? | 10:23 |
| === pochu can, although his english isn't good... | ||
| persia | Thanks pochu | 10:24 |
| persia | OK. First up: other business. Anyone have anything they'd like to add to the agenda now? | 10:24 |
| ScottK | persia: I can whine and complain for a while if that would be helpful? | 10:25 |
| norsetto | hehehe | 10:25 |
| persia | ScottK: If you like, but given the attendance, the mailing lists might be a better forum :) | 10:25 |
| pochu | ScottK: that would mean more work for me on the minutes? no then! ;-) | 10:25 |
| norsetto | there is something we recently discussed with dholbach | 10:25 |
| norsetto | about the mentoring program | 10:26 |
| persia | norsetto: could you summarise it? | 10:26 |
| norsetto | sure, we would like to make the point of the situation | 10:26 |
| norsetto | how it is going, ways to improve, what we want to do in the future | 10:27 |
| norsetto | we would like to have a dedicated meeting to it, so I thought its a good idea to mention it here | 10:27 |
| norsetto | in case any of you is interested | 10:27 |
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| persia | norsetto: That would probably benefit from some advertisement. Perhaps it could be added to the agenda for next time? | 10:28 |
| norsetto | persia: if it helps, sure | 10:28 |
| persia | norsetto: if there's no time pressure, it's best to put things on in advance so that interested people can be sure to make it. | 10:29 |
| persia | Anyone else have any other items? | 10:29 |
| pochu | I'm wondering whether it's still interesting to make a meeting every 2 weeks. Maybe they should be every 3 weeks or once a month, since the agenda is usually a bit empty... WDYT? | 10:30 |
| pochu | Or maybe we should give a beer to everybody which attends the meetings... although then ScottK would always be drunk :) | 10:30 |
| pkern | Hah. | 10:31 |
| ScottK | pochu: If it was Scotch, sure. | 10:31 |
| bddebian | w00t, I'll show up more often! :-) | 10:31 |
| ScottK | pochu: Be sure to get that in the minutes. | 10:32 |
| pochu | wow, it seems to work :-) | 10:32 |
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| ScottK | I think we should stay with every two weeks. It's a little slow now just before release, but once we start on Hardy stuff I think there will be more to argue about <<<< discuss. | 10:33 |
| geser | I think too we should stay at two weeks, I doubt that 4 weeks will get more topics to the agenda and more attendees | 10:35 |
| norsetto | an hour every two weeks seems very reasonable to me, mind you that with the rotating timetable you would not be able to attend them all | 10:35 |
| persia | Based on discussion, let's stick with two weeks for now. | 10:36 |
| persia | Any other other business? | 10:37 |
| pochu | Sure, sounds ok. But don't forget the free beer if you come to the meetings! | 10:37 |
| geser | +1 :) | 10:38 |
| pkern | I guess we should discuss the details with dholbach ;) | 10:39 |
| persia | Next on our agenda: agree on date & time of next meeting. | 10:39 |
| persia | Given the previous discussion, 19th October is the candidate date. What time? | 10:40 |
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| geser | +/- 8h? | 10:42 |
| persia | geser: Sounds good. | 10:42 |
| persia | Please vote for preferences between 04:00 and 12:00 | 10:42 |
| norsetto | 12:00 | 10:42 |
| geser | 12:00 | 10:43 |
| pochu | 12:00 | 10:43 |
| ScottK | 12:00 (this is UTC, right?) | 10:43 |
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| persia | ScottK: Yes. | 10:43 |
| persia | Anyone for 04:00? | 10:43 |
| ScottK | persia: Of course those who would prefer that likely aren't here today. | 10:44 |
| geser | TheMuso mail about meeting times didn't get many answers | 10:44 |
| norsetto | scottK: can't we propose a time and ask in the list to confirm it (or otherwise)? | 10:45 |
| ScottK | Sure. | 10:45 |
| ScottK | Just saying. | 10:45 |
| norsetto | scottk: quite truly too | 10:45 |
| persia | OK. Next meeting with be 19th October, 12:00 UTC unless there is dissension after posting to the mailing list. Any volunteers to make the announcement? | 10:46 |
| pochu | I can do it with the minutes. | 10:46 |
| persia | pochu: Thanks. | 10:46 |
| persia | Next agenda item: Next REVU day. As this is for Hardy, I think it's safe to skip. | 10:47 |
| ScottK | Agreed. | 10:47 |
| persia | Next agenda item: next Q&A session time. Any volunteers to run one? | 10:47 |
| ScottK | How's the UUS queue looking these days? | 10:47 |
| ScottK | persia: I volunteer dholbach. | 10:47 |
| norsetto | reasonable | 10:47 |
| pochu | lol | 10:48 |
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| ScottK | He's the one that wanted to keep them going. Looking at the logs of the last one there didn't seem to be much except a new Canonical guy looking for a rubber stamp. | 10:48 |
| persia | ScottK: Great. You'll be in charge of recruiting him, and getting an annoucement to the mailing list? | 10:48 |
| ScottK | persia: No. If it's up to me, I'd just cancel the whole thing. | 10:49 |
| ScottK | Just have pochu put it in the minutes. | 10:49 |
| ScottK | We'll get told if we were wrong. | 10:49 |
| ScottK | He didn't want to do it next time, he should have come to the meeting. | 10:49 |
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| persia | OK. If there's no volunteer to run the session, let's not schedule one, and ask for volunteers to announce any ad-hoc session to the mailing list. | 10:49 |
| ScottK | I'm perfectly fine with that. | 10:50 |
| ScottK | My vote was to do away with them. | 10:50 |
| persia | Anyone have any final items for discussion? | 10:51 |
| persia | Thank you all for coming to the meeting. | 10:53 |
| ajmitch | oh, there's a meeting on, what a shame | 10:53 |
| norsetto | thank you persia for chairing | 10:53 |
| geser | ajmitch: there was a meeting | 10:53 |
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| mralphabet | @schedule | 10:59 |
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| pkern | @schedule Europe/Berlin | 11:10 |
| ubotu | Schedule for Europe/Berlin: 05 Oct 22:00: MOTU | 06 Oct 19:00: Xubuntu Developers | 10 Oct 14:00: Forum Council | 10 Oct 18:00: QA Team | 11 Oct 17:00: Community Development Team | 16 Oct 18:00: Kernel Team | 11:10 |
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