[01:24] <asac> ffox fails to build
[01:25] <asac> looks like it doesn't find the nspr headers
[01:26] <Ubulette> you just did xul without system nspr/nss or ff too ?
[01:27] <asac> Ubulette: our orig doesn't have nsprpub
[01:27] <asac> but apparently its needed
[01:27] <asac> well at least there are no special LIBXUL cases considered
[01:27] <Ubulette> ff ? shouldn't need to. xul only
[01:27] <asac>     NSPR_CFLAGS='`$(DEPTH)/nsprpub/config/nspr-config --prefix=$(LIBXUL_DIST) --includedir=$(LIBXUL_DIST)/include/nspr --cflags`'
[01:28] <asac> Ubulette: shouldn't doesn't help here :)
[01:28] <asac> we need at least the nsprpub/config/nspr-config
[01:28] <asac> and hope that --prefix does the right think then
[01:29] <Ubulette> well, nspr-config should be shipped by xul-dev i guess
[01:29] <Ubulette> and that nsprpub path should be fixed
[01:30] <Ubulette> it's just a kind of pkgconfig script
[01:30] <asac> hey ;)
[01:30] <asac> should doesn't help here
[01:30] <asac> Ubulette: i know exactly what nspr-config is  ;)
[01:30] <Ubulette> well, I don't see your changes so I'm guessing
[01:31] <asac> ther is nothing to guess ... we just need that file in the orig :)
[01:34] <asac> good with that file it works
[01:34] <Ubulette> i would prefer to ship it in LIBXUL_DIST/lib in xul-dev rather than tweaking ff3 tarball.
[01:34] <asac> can you extend mozclient?
[01:34] <Ubulette> sure but I find it dirty that way
[01:34] <asac> Ubulette: that means patching around
[01:34] <asac> well .. its just for a8
[01:34] <asac> once the bug is fixed upstream it can go away
[01:35] <asac> it should just use pkg-config --cflags mozilla-nspr-1.9
[01:41] <Ubulette> not that easy. It's nspr-config.in that needs to be subst
[01:45] <Ubulette> and that subst is made by nspr configure
[01:46] <asac> ok
[01:46] <Ubulette> oh, maybe ff configure does that too
[01:47] <Ubulette> let's try to just add mozilla/nsprpub/config/nspr-config.in to ff tarball
[01:48] <asac> Ubulette: what is replaced in there?
[01:49] <Ubulette> in pure nspr, a lot: prefix, versions, LDFLAGS
[01:50] <Ubulette> OS_LIBS
[01:50] <asac> ok i think i patch configure.in
[01:50] <asac> ugly but effective for this release
[01:50] <Ubulette> pushed
[01:51] <Ubulette> looking at my old bot logs, configure should already do that for you
[01:52] <asac> no
[01:54] <Ubulette> oh, lol no. configure starts another configure in nsrpub
[01:56] <asac> yes
[01:56] <asac> its not that simple
[01:57] <asac> ok it was a typo ... i guess now it works
[01:58] <asac> unfortunately not :)
[02:00] <Ubulette> damn, i pushed the wrong commit
[02:01] <asac> where?
[02:01] <Ubulette> mozclient
[02:01] <asac> i already have a bunch of commits
[02:01] <asac> ah ok
[02:02] <asac> pkg-config mozilla-nspr-1.9 --libs doesn't give enough -L
[02:03] <asac> Ubulette: does mozclient work?
[02:03] <Ubulette> no
[02:03] <Ubulette> oh
[02:04] <Ubulette> w8, maybe. embedded tarball :P
[02:05] <Ubulette> new rev13 works
[02:05] <asac> what did you do with configure.in?
[02:05] <Ubulette> you need it ?
[02:05] <asac> how to checkout?
[02:06] <asac> make firefox-orig DEBIAN_TAG=MOZILLA_RELEASE_1_9a8
[02:06] <asac> ?
[02:06] <Ubulette> yes
[02:06] <Ubulette> I've just added mozilla/nsprpub/config/nspr-config.in
[02:06] <asac> ok got it
[02:06] <asac> hmm
[02:06] <asac> ok
[02:07] <Ubulette> I do make DEBIAN_TAG=MOZILLA_1_9a8_RELEASE firefox-orig
[02:07] <asac> its stupid
[02:07] <Ubulette> ?
[02:07] <asac> it should work how i did it here with pkg-config
[02:07] <Ubulette> who's stupid ? me ?
[02:07] <asac> a bit dubious whats wrong ... i guess its wrong to yield -L/usr/lib/xulrunner-devel-1.9a8
[02:07] <asac> not the world
[02:07] <asac> no
[02:08] <asac> the world is stupid
[02:08] <asac> ;)
[02:13] <Ubulette> remember we're doomed with 2 tarballs for a8 now. one for ppa, one for gutsy
[02:13] <Ubulette> hopefully, ppa will no longer need updates for a8
[02:18] <asac> yeah
[02:18] <asac> i am working on not needing that tarball
[02:19] <Ubulette> as I said, i'd prefer you not to need another tarball so I'm glad
[02:32] <Ubulette> ok, I'm off. 'night
[02:33] <asac> Ubulette: ok i found the ugly hack in configure.in that made me shiver ;)
[06:59] <gnomefreak> night done working for tonight i really need to get sleep i have a couple of meetings tomorrow but should be fairly easy day
[09:28] <Mirv> asac: hi, so could you add the locale dir + chrome.manifest change from bug 139380 to ubufox, or is there something preventing it? (apart from incredible hurry). since gutsy is so little away, I'm trying to fix the remaining i18n/l10n problems, and ubufox is one of the most visible ones (which goes to say gutsy is all-in-all in a quite good shape now)
[09:28] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 139380 in ubufox "Untranslated strings in ubufox" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139380
[10:11] <Ubulette> asac, I don't think shipping mozilla-nss-1.9.pc is such a good idea. if people start depending on it, we're stuck without system nss forever
[10:53] <asac> Ubulette: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+queue
[10:54] <asac> Ubulette: no its ok imo
[10:54] <asac> Ubulette: packages will get a critical bug which should fix it
[10:55] <asac> Mirv: i have to do one upload ... have to talk to Jazzva first, because I want some of his changes too, but its not clear how to get them :)
[12:37] <asac> Ubulette: ok ... all in.
[12:38] <asac> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/
[12:38] <asac> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xulrunner-1.9/
[02:01] <Bernardo> hi
[02:02] <Bernardo> asac: you're here?
[02:45] <gnomefreak> !info flashplugin-nonfree feisty
[02:45] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 9.0.48.0.0ubuntu1~7.04.1 (feisty), package size 15 kB, installed size 108 kB (Only available for i386)
[03:07] <asac> Bernardo: ?
[04:23] <Bernardo> asac: seems like the latest updates broke ipw3945/network manager again
[04:24] <Bernardo> also, I have a media center PC for which I want to enable the wifi interface at boot (non-roaming mode, I think), but I have no luck. If I do "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" the wlan0 interface works as expected
[04:27] <asac> Bernardo: paste your /etc/network/interfaces
[04:28] <asac> last upload didn't change a thing btw :)
[04:29] <asac> Ubulette: can we do something about bug 121734 in mozclient?
[04:29] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121734 in firefox "orig.tar.gz has binary-only files" [Critical,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121734
[04:29] <asac> Ubulette: its basically a "make pitti and some other archive-admins happy" bug
[04:42] <asac> Bernardo: if you have wlan0 configured, network manager doesn't even manage that interface
[06:29] <asac> Bernardo: back?
[07:02] <Bernardo> asac: just got home
[07:02] <Bernardo> the interfaces I sent you was for the media centre pc
[07:02] <Bernardo> with a rtl2500 pci board
[07:10] <Bernardo> asac: the wlan0 configuration in that interfaces file was added by the gnome networkapplet when I choose to have wifi without roaming mode. The strangest thing is that it is started when I do a "sudo /etc/init.d/network restart", but not at boot.
[07:10] <Bernardo> but that I guess isn't with you
[07:11] <Bernardo> my other problem is that my ipw3945 stopped working today, with what looks like a reversion, the reappearance of the configuration dialog for the wpa connection
[07:11] <Bernardo> brb
[07:14] <asac> Bernardo: can you show a log please
[07:20] <asac> /var/log/syslog
[07:30] <Bernardo> hi asac
[07:30] <Bernardo> for the ipw3945?
[07:32] <asac> yes
[07:32] <asac> the other is not network-manager related
[07:32] <Bernardo> ok, I'm checking now among all the guarddog noise for the related entries, just a sec
[07:32] <asac> well could be related, but i hope not
[07:32] <Ubulette> hi everyone
[07:32] <asac> Ubulette: hi
[07:32] <asac> Ubulette: read above ;)
[07:33] <asac> builds are slow nowadays though ;)
[07:33] <asac> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xulrunner-1.9/1.9~a8-0ubuntu1
[07:34] <asac> Ubulette:
[07:34] <Ubulette> yep
[07:34] <Ubulette> good
[07:34] <asac> well :)
[07:34] <asac> firefox already has a bug ;)
[07:35] <Ubulette> ?
[07:35] <asac> bug 121734
[07:35] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121734 in firefox "orig.tar.gz has binary-only files" [Critical,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121734
[07:35] <asac> i got harangued again for that by archive-admins
[07:35] <Ubulette> it's not new
[07:35] <asac> which doesn't make it better ;)
[07:36] <Ubulette> should we change all tarballs ?
[07:36] <asac> i am waiting for a final go from mconnor
[07:36] <asac> but all looks like we will run remove.nonfree excl. the branding
[07:38] <Ubulette> a task for mozclient for sure
[07:38] <Ubulette> otherwise it's too late
[07:39] <Ubulette> gnomefreak, i've added a tb3 target to mozclient, in case you're interested
[07:41] <asac> anyway ... got to go for now ... bbl
[07:41] <Ubulette> asac, when will you back here ?
[07:45] <asac> Ubulette: 2-3h i think ... anything important?
[07:45] <Bernardo> asac: http://pastebin.ca/726999
[07:45] <asac> Bernardo: which version of nm do you use?
[07:46] <Bernardo> including a couple of NetworkManager crashes that needed a kill -9
[07:46] <Bernardo> 0.6.5-0ubuntu15
[07:46] <asac> that all is with ubuntu15?
[07:47] <asac> Bernardo: does it create a crash file for you in /var/lib/crash/ ?
[07:47] <Ubulette> asac, no, just wanted to know if we could expect to see you before monday :)
[07:47] <asac> Bernardo: aeh /var/crash/
[07:48] <asac> Ubulette: yeah definitly ... i will be here tomorrow afternoon too i guess
[07:48] <Bernardo> yes, I installed all this morning (8am GMT+1) patches, rebooted, and got these problems
[07:48] <Bernardo> let me check /var/crash
[07:48] <cwong1> asac:  hey,  quick question: is the midbrowser release going ok?
[07:49] <Bernardo> asac: no, /var/crash has only libbluetooth and opera stuff
[07:49] <asac> cwong1: well ... i will try to upload when i return. Didn't test yet, because some nasty license issues got in my way :(
[07:50] <cwong1> what license issues?
[07:50] <asac> bug 121734
[07:50] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121734 in firefox "orig.tar.gz has binary-only files" [Critical,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121734
[07:50] <asac> its not a license issue, but a source tarball contamination issue ;)
[07:50] <cwong1> k
[07:51] <Bernardo> asac: anyway, you have to go, I have to go, we'll check this later
[07:51] <asac> cwong1: its filed against midbrowser as well :)
[07:51] <cwong1> k
[07:51] <cwong1> will check with you later
[07:55] <Ubulette> asac, the question is what do we do for tarballs already uploaded ? do we add a tag or something to the version ?
[07:55] <asac> Ubulette: +SOMETHING ;)
[07:56] <asac> i will do that on the release branch and bake the tarballs
[07:56] <asac> so you don't need to adapt the mozclient for this upload
[07:56] <asac> of course if mozclient works I can use that as well ... but i can add the version suffix manually
[07:56] <asac> if its easier for you
[08:01] <gnomefreak> asac: anything we can do on ubuntu side of ffox with these damn google addons?
[08:02] <Ubulette> gnomefreak, which ones ?
[08:02] <gnomefreak> google == nonfree so im sure not much but seems every addon for google causes issues
[08:12] <asac> finally i am still here for a few minutes :)
[08:12] <asac> do we ship compatibility links for libnspr and libnss ... as we do for tbird gnomefreak ?
[08:12] <gnomefreak> well told him id ask but as i told him doubtful
[08:13] <asac> hmm yes we do
[08:13] <asac> how are google addons broken?=
[08:13] <gnomefreak> asac: off hand not sure meds kicked in about 20 minutes ago
[08:13] <gnomefreak> asac: they freeze ffox or crash ffox or this that or the other (there are a shitload of bugs on them most i think ive closed a while back
[08:13] <gnomefreak> hold on ther eis one open
[08:14] <gnomefreak> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mozilla-firefox/+bug/140885
[08:14] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 140885 in mozilla-firefox "firefox freezes when greater than three windows are openened" [Medium,Incomplete] 
[08:14] <gnomefreak> that is one the damn person wont let me forget
[08:14] <gnomefreak> why comment on bug and wait why not ping the shit out of gnomefreak
[08:14] <asac> hjmf: how are your crash scripts going?
[08:15] <asac> hjmf: do you need help to get them in shape?
[08:15] <gnomefreak> im going to bed before i fall over.
[08:15] <asac> gnomefreak: ok ... cu
[08:17] <Ubulette> is that the genuine google tool bar or one of the zillion clones ?
[08:17] <asac> Ubulette: i guess its the official one
[08:17] <asac> i remember that there were crashes
[08:18] <asac> if its a native extension, then we cannot do much about it i guess
[08:19] <Ubulette> that bug should go upstream
[08:19] <asac> were?
[08:19] <asac> where?
[08:19] <asac> Ubulette: its probably not present in what upstream releases
[08:20] <Ubulette> i mean to google
[08:20] <Ubulette> not moz
[08:20] <asac> no idea how to file that :)
[08:22] <asac> Bernardo: what you see are crashes i guess
[08:22] <asac> Bernardo: you see them in log ... so maybe it never gets to connecting?
[08:23] <Bernardo> with wpa, no
[08:23] <Bernardo> with the open network, yes
[08:23] <Bernardo> on the rt2500, it connects with wpa if I enable roaming for that interfar
[08:23] <Bernardo> interface
[08:24] <asac> ok so rt2500 always works with network-manager ... or is it just a bit more stable?
[08:24] <Bernardo> maybe a bit more stable with the latest drivers
[08:24] <Bernardo> that machine had feisty until yesterday
[08:24] <Bernardo> but I made the wrong move and upgraded it
[08:25] <asac> well :) ... better crash now than in the end
[08:25] <Bernardo> it never had network manager before, as the feisty drivers used a lot of iwpriv stuff to configure wpa
[08:25] <Bernardo> we still have a few days to fix it
[08:25] <asac> well ... the crash is what concerns me most atm
[08:26] <asac> Bernardo: are you asked for the key?
[08:26] <Bernardo> yes
[08:26] <Bernardo> and if I give it, it usualy asks again
[08:26] <Bernardo> if I cancel, it crashes
[08:27] <asac> oh ... good pointer
[08:28] <Bernardo> I can retry that, but it's on this machine... Let me launch a irc client on another
[08:28] <asac> Bernardo: do you have another machine that has ipw3945?
[08:28] <Bernardo> no, only this laptop
[08:29] <Bernardo> I have a media center pc with the rtl2500, and another pc which is wired
[08:30] <asac> Bernardo: are you sure that you are up to date?
[08:30] <Bernardo> yes
[08:30] <Bernardo> I am using the main mirror
[08:30] <Bernardo> did a update and a reboot before the main errors
[08:31] <Bernardo> around 11-12 am gmt+1
[08:31] <Bernardo> And I've just updated a few more packages, a couple of minutes ago, but nothing nm related
[08:32] <Bernardo> well, maybe module-init-tools and dbus have some possible relation
[08:33] <asac> Bernardo: yes they do
[08:34] <asac> but unlikely to cause these crashes
[08:37] <Ubulette> asac: how come xul is taking 3h30 to build now ?
[08:37] <asac> Ubulette: look at your update-manager :)
[08:37] <asac> massive package uploads because of freeze that will be lifted
[08:38] <Ubulette> look at build logs, it's stuck after the debs are built
[08:38] <asac> aeh enforced ;)
[08:38] <Ubulette> https://edge.launchpad.net/+builds/vernadsky
[08:38] <asac> Ubulette: well ... 1h ago build hasn't started
[08:39] <Ubulette> it started 3h ago, I was watching it
[08:39] <asac> how long does it hang like this?
[08:40] <Ubulette> dont know but after 1h, it was near the end, it's no longer moving
[08:40] <Ubulette> it did the same for lpia
[08:40] <asac> Ubulette: lpia is finished though ... isn't it?
[08:40] <asac> at least it was last time i looked
[08:40] <asac> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xulrunner-1.9/1.9~a8-0ubuntu1
[08:41] <Ubulette> dpkg-genchanges: binary-only upload - not including any source code
[08:41] <Ubulette> dpkg-buildpackage: binary only upload (no source included)
[08:41] <Ubulette> Build killed with signal 15 after 150 minutes of inactivity
[08:41] <Ubulette> ******************************************************************************
[08:41] <Ubulette> Build finished at 20071005-1555
[08:41] <Ubulette> Publishing debug debs.
[08:41] <Ubulette> that's lpia
[08:41] <Ubulette> "killed with signal 15 after 150 minutes of inactivity"
[08:41] <Ubulette> and it's not pushed :(
[08:42] <asac> its NEW
[08:42] <asac> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+queue
[08:42] <asac> there it is
[08:42] <asac> waiting for archive-admins to push it into the archive for the first time
[08:43] <Ubulette> but we're loosing 150min at each build
[08:44] <asac> yeah ... thts heavy
[08:44] <asac> Ubulette: do you have a link for the lpia log?
[08:44] <Ubulette> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9811584/buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-lpia.xulrunner-1.9_1.9~a8-0ubuntu1_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz
[08:46] <asac> Ubulette: lets hope that its just our package that hangs :)
[08:49] <Ubulette> looks like it's stuck at the sign step
[08:50] <asac> i asked tollef ... if he doesn't know or answer i will ask our soyuz guy
[09:01] <Bernardo> asac: I' m on the second machine now
[09:01] <jbs> do you want me to test wifi again?
[09:02] <Bernardo> wrong keyboard :D
[09:02] <Bernardo> do you want me to test wifi again?
[09:06] <Bernardo> bbl
[09:35] <Ubulette> asac, looks like if I just remove everything for win, mac, vms and all tests, it's ok
[09:47] <Ubulette> and os2 too
[10:18] <Ubulette> asac, what did you do with xul 1.9 ??
[10:18] <Ubulette> dpkg: regarding xulrunner-1.9_1.9~a8-0ubuntu1_i386.deb containing xulrunner-1.9:
[10:18] <Ubulette>  xulrunner-1.9 conflicts with xulrunner (<< 1.8.1.4-2ubuntu4)
[10:18] <Ubulette>   xulrunner (version 1.8.1.4-2ubuntu3) is present and installed.
[11:00] <Ubulette> asac, I can no longer build ff3 a8 with your xul a8
[11:01] <Ubulette> ftbs on missing nspr symbols
[11:01] <Ubulette> ftbfs
[11:01] <Ubulette> configure says:
[11:01] <Ubulette> configure: warning: Recreating autoconf.mk with updated nspr-config output
[11:01] <Ubulette>  /src/bzr/build-area/firefox-3.0-3.0~alpha8+s/build-tree/mozilla/configure: 21312: ./nsprpub/config/nspr-config: not found
[11:01] <Ubulette>  /src/bzr/build-area/firefox-3.0-3.0~alpha8+s/build-tree/mozilla/configure: 21312: ./nsprpub/config/nspr-config: not found
[12:04] <Ubulette> mozilla bug 397982
[12:04] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 397982 in Spelling checker "Default spellchecker to load dictionaries from GRE folder not APP folder" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]  http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=397982
[12:04] <Ubulette> that one could be interesting for us
[12:25] <Ubulette> asac, I merged two of your xul commits to xul.dev, cherry pick. strangely it does not appear in bzr log like a normal (full) merge.
[12:47] <Ubulette> asac, you didn't touch the libnssckbi.so link so it seems the one built is lost and the one in /usr/lib/nss provided by libnss3-0d is used instead
[12:51] <asac> Ubulette: use ffox from bzr tree
[12:51] <Ubulette> I did
[12:52] <Ubulette> and I installed xul debs from lp
[12:53] <asac> Ubulette: my branch doesn do ./nsprpub/config/nspr-config
[12:53] <Ubulette> I used your branch and my new tarball
[12:54] <asac> do you have: debian/patches/nspr_flags_by_pkg_config_hack.patch
[12:54] <asac> oh xul has already been let into the archive
[12:54] <Ubulette> i dont
[12:54] <Ubulette> did you push it ?
[12:55] <asac> lets see
[12:55] <asac> rev 107
[12:55] <Ubulette> lp has 106
[12:55] <asac> that sucks ... branches have diverged
[12:55] <asac> maybe i didn't see it because it was too old
[12:55] <asac> wait a sec
[12:56] <Ubulette> too old ? or too late ?
[12:56] <asac> too late ;)
[12:56] <asac> like now
[12:56] <asac> ok i overwrote
[12:56] <asac> sorry for the confusion
[12:56] <asac> i remember that i was in doubt about whether i pushed the bad release commit
[12:57] <asac> but came up with the conclusion that i didn't ... and then i missed the push error apparently
[01:01] <Ubulette> ok
[01:01] <asac> Ubulette: you should use the latest bzr from bzr :)
[01:01] <asac> there cherry picked commits will be documented from what i saw
[01:01] <asac> yesterday ;)
[01:01] <Ubulette> I did
[01:02] <asac> http://bazaar-vcs.org/bzr/bzr.dev ?
[01:02] <asac> that branch?
[01:02] <Ubulette> ?
[01:02] <Ubulette> oh, no
[01:02] <Ubulette> my bzr is from gutsy
[01:02] <asac> yeah thats stoneage ;)
[01:02] <asac> use 0.91
[01:03] <asac> just bzr branch http://bazaar-vcs.org/bzr/bzr.dev
[01:03] <Ubulette> 0.90.0 is that old ?
[01:04] <Ubulette> ok, my new even more stripped ff tarball built fine
[01:04] <asac> yes the cherry-pick refs are brand new
[01:08] <asac> Ubulette: i think you should try to merge all ... and manually revert the parts you don't want on the branch before you commit the merge
[01:08] <asac> Ubulette: in that way bzr should remember that so you can from now on just merge
[01:09] <asac> Ubulette: but i think it doesn't matter much here ... in general i don't want to merge to the .dev branch, but from it :)
[01:10] <Ubulette> i want to merge whenever possible. it seemed possible but I've spent too much time on this already
[01:10] <Ubulette> what do you think of the stripped ff tarball. Does that suit you ?
[01:10] <asac> Ubulette: well :) ... most likely becaues of wrong revision. i can do that as well if you want
[01:10] <asac> Ubulette: i haven't seen how you do it :)
[01:11] <Ubulette> read your mail
[01:12] <Ubulette> that's 1M shorter
[01:12] <asac> Ubulette: the list doesn't include all the binary only files, right?
[01:13] <Ubulette> files and dirs. I can't find any binary in the resulting tarball excepts pics (jpg, png, ...)
[01:14] <asac> have you looked at the remove.nonfree script?
[01:14] <asac> there were a bunch of .rsrc files et al in there
[01:14] <Ubulette> briefly
[01:14] <Ubulette> no more .rsrc now
[01:15] <asac> .dll .Lib
[01:15] <asac> .DLL
[01:15] <asac> .doc
[01:15] <asac> .mcp
[01:16] <Ubulette> 1 doc mais c une doc
[01:16] <asac> 68k.u
[01:16] <Ubulette> oops
[01:16] <asac> PPC.u
[01:16] <Ubulette> 1 doc but it's a real doc