/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2007/10/05/#ubuntu-ops.txt

Tm_Twii is ban evader xp_killer?01:18
Tm_The is01:18
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wiiTm_P: did you baned Mii?01:21
wiiwho baned Mii?01:21
wii>_<01:22
Piciwii: Where?01:22
wiikubuntu01:22
Tm_TI did01:23
Tm_Tban evading01:23
wiiwhy?01:23
wiibaned evading?01:23
wiiu lie01:23
Tm_Tno I dont believe so01:23
wiiit's being a week since my pc wasnt working01:24
Tm_Tand?01:24
wiiand i wasnt banned when i was garfield01:24
Tm_Twell you did01:24
Tm_Tand you are banned as xp_killer01:25
Tm_Tand that is what counts01:25
Tm_Tthat ban is still on01:25
Tm_Tand every attempt to go around that is ban evading01:25
wiiTm_T:what?u mean u baned xp_killer for more then a week?01:26
Tm_Tnot only mean but yes01:26
Tm_Tand it is still valid01:26
wiiwell i didnt know my pc was down for a good while i forgot all wa hapen here plus i had to buy a new hdd for linux and reinstall everything xp and kubuntu01:27
Tm_Tdoesnt matter, ban is still valid, so is new ban01:28
wiii dont care01:28
wiiit's not like i'm going to died whitought this irc thing01:28
Tm_Tthen this issue is dealt, have a good night :)01:28
wiiif i was wwhitoung it for a week and can do whitough it for a year01:29
LjLi said that too once about smoking01:30
LjLoh, wait, i've never been a week without smoking01:30
LjLi said that too once about IRC01:31
wiiTm_T: if im baned why do i have privalage to speak in ubuntu?isnt that just rediculus?01:31
Picifyi, It appears that you are evading in #ubuntu as well.01:31
Tm_Twii: you already said you dont care, so why you still talk about it?01:32
Tm_TPici: then do what must be done ;)01:32
PiciTm_T: psst, like I keep telling people I only have ops in -offtopic.01:32
Tm_TPici: hmh01:32
Tm_Tshame01:32
wiiTm_T: wait if u said xp_killer was baned for a week more then a week has past01:32
Tm_Twii: not for a week01:33
wiihow long?01:33
Tm_Twho knows01:33
Tm_Tyou havent helped it yet01:34
wiiTm_T: xp_killer was baned for an unknown time?01:34
Tm_Twii: well we promised to talk about it again after a week01:34
wiio.O01:35
Tm_TI never promised to lift it just like that01:35
Tm_Talso, its not only up to me anymore01:35
xp_killerTm_T: it's up to who?01:35
Tm_Tme, you, stdin and perhaps mneptok like to review his comment too01:36
xp_killerwho is mneptok?01:36
xp_killeri'm cool whit stdin01:37
LjLis this a split personality case or what?01:37
Tm_TLjL: no idea, nor care01:37
xp_killerTm_T: who is mneptok?why do it have to be up to him too?01:38
Tm_Txp_killer: he (and I) have seen that you have had enough second changes, he's another op01:39
xp_killersecond changes???01:39
Tm_Tyes, you have been banned and rebanned many many times01:39
mneptokxp_killer: my Patience-O-Meter fell to zero with you long ago.01:39
Tm_Twhat, 3 or 4 ?01:39
mneptokxp_killer: you misbehave, apologize, promise to stop, and then repeat the whole process again.01:40
mneptokxp_killer: i'm done using my valuable tickets on this boring ride.01:41
xp_killerno i did not01:41
xp_killer....01:42
xp_killercan i go back to kubuntu now?01:42
mneptoki will not unban you. others are welcome to make their own decisions on the matter.01:43
Tm_TI will not unban you now01:44
Tm_Tnot until stdin comment on this matter01:44
Tm_TAND after whe have reviewed this issue with you01:44
xp_killernow?as u mean i wont be baned forever?01:44
Tm_Tperhaps not01:44
Tm_TI will not promise anything01:44
xp_killerim here after a week to review when i was banned as xp_killer01:45
xp_killertell me fast my momy want to use the pc i have to go back to xp01:46
Tm_Tsee you next week, thats all I will say now01:46
xp_killerTm_T: but u tell me that i had to come back in one week to review now u telling me to come back in a nother week?01:47
xp_killercrazyness01:47
Tm_Tyes, because you evaded ban01:47
xp_killerTm_T: i did not my hdd's die on me i had to reinstall everything01:48
Tm_Txp_killer: so you again had new nick, new username and all?01:48
Tm_Tno, I don't care now, I really need to eat01:49
Tm_T->01:49
=== xp_killer seems these ops are very board so to enjoy they self they look for excuse to banned people
Tm_T...01:51
xp_killer...01:55
xp_killerTm_T: what u eating?01:55
xp_killer:)01:55
Tm_Thuman brains01:57
wiio.O01:59
wiianyway i'm going laters01:59
wiigoing back to xp01:59
wii:D01:59
gnomefreakwii: anything else we can help you with tonight?02:04
wiiLjL: i said i was sory02:04
LjLwii: you also kept saying nonsense such as "Miioo sowiii"02:04
wiignomefreak: and u are?02:04
LjL*after* being told that the channel is busy enough02:04
gnomefreakwii: removing you if you have no other reason to be here02:04
wiiLjL: 02:04
wiino one told me it was busy02:05
LjLyes they did, they told you to go to -offtopic for random nonsense, and they also did say it was busy.02:05
LjLyou admitted it yourself.02:05
wiignomefreak: wait i have bussness with LjL02:05
LjL[02:02:30]  <scguy318> wii: if you wish to discuss off-topic matters, then please hang out in #ubuntu-offtopic, the channel is quite busy02:05
LjLyeah well, it's short business though. you're banned, that's it.02:05
wiiLjL: i am in offtopic after i said sorry i was going in offtopic02:06
=== gnomefreak watching and will let LjL and you finish even though it seems i read this somewhere before
LjLwii: then what the hell was that "miio whatever"?02:06
=== gnomefreak goes to find a core-dev for now ;)
wiiaa i touch the wrong buttons02:06
LjLand hit an uppercase, then lowercase letters, then a space in a fashion that forms two words, even if not meaningful? come on.02:07
wii:D for that u get a fit02:07
wii?02:07
wiidont it look like i wanted to say sorry?i'm a noob in typin and my gramaire is bad02:08
gnomefreakgrammer?02:08
wiioh i say it in french02:08
wiii dont know the english word02:09
LjLgnomefreak: perhaps grammar02:09
gnomefreakspelling?02:09
gnomefreakand stuff02:09
LjLwii: ok look i don't have any time to waste. you're unbanned. join and be happy.02:09
mneptokxp_killer: if you have no further business here please /part02:12
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ubotuscguy318 called the ops in #ubuntu02:18
xp_killerlol02:18
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gnomefreaktell me that wasnt you02:19
AndrewBeek02:19
ubotuAgent_bob called the ops in #kubuntu02:19
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wiiwho?02:19
wiistdin: sleeping02:19
Amaranthwow that even lagged me a little bit02:19
wiilol02:19
naliothall IPs klined02:20
mneptokwii: i am now permanently banning you from any *ubuntu channel on which i have ops. you seem absolutely incapable of learning to behave.02:20
wiiAmaranth: arent u amaroth or something?02:20
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Amaranthwii: What?02:20
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wiimneptok: for ever?02:20
wiiAmaranth: never mine02:21
mneptokwii: oui02:21
mneptokwii: tant pis. a toute a l'heure.02:21
wiimneptok: fait come tu veux02:21
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Tm_T:)))02:22
LjL!staff02:22
ubotuHey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, BearPerson or ompaul! I could use a bit of your time :)02:22
LjLmassive mess02:22
LjLin all ubuntu channels02:22
naliothLjL: yes?02:23
gnomefreaki was just in there :(02:23
gnomefreakmneptok: what did he do this time?02:23
Tm_Tgnomefreak: "fuck suck" etc02:24
Tm_Tas in02:24
gnomefreakwhen was this?02:24
Tm_Tfew moments ago in #ubuntu-offtopic 02:24
gnomefreakhe wasnt unbanned for 2 minutes02:24
gnomefreakhes not real ummmmmm well eh02:25
mneptokgnomefreak: precisely my point ;)02:25
Tm_T0317 < xp_killer> cubesi1: stop fucking chating so fast02:25
Tm_Tetc02:25
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gnomefreakyeah saw it02:26
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mneptokgnomefreak: just couldn't believe your eyes ... ? ;)02:26
gnomefreakmneptok: yeah02:26
Tm_Thmmmm02:27
gnomefreakit was like not really 2 minutes02:27
gnomefreakyou would think they would last 5 minutes atleast02:27
mneptokgnomefreak: he's French.02:27
=== mneptok woggles an eyebrow
naliothand a troll02:28
mneptokwhat a great combination02:28
gnomefreakdamn dpkg updates and apt is just all messed up today02:28
LjLi'm going to bed02:29
LjL-rR'ing unless someone takes that over02:29
mneptokLjL: don't wait up for me. i'm working late, sweetie.02:29
LjLmneptok, trolls have a strange effect on you.02:30
gnomefreakmneptok: banning wii == working late for you ;)02:30
AndrewBWould it not be better to +f #kubuntu to #ubuntu-unregged  while we are +Rr ?02:31
mneptokgnomefreak: i have ~3 hours left at the office, then 2-3 hours of stuff at home02:31
LjLAndrewB: i've removed the +rR in #kubuntu02:31
gnomefreakmneptok: damn02:31
AndrewBoh LjL ... I knew that! ;)02:31
LjLAndrewB: i only set it briefly out of total non-understanding of what was going on - and lag02:31
LjLalso, i thought my alias would set +f automatically, but anyway02:32
LjL(i *am* in #kubuntu-unregged)02:32
gnomefreakmneptok: your boy is back hes in +1 im thining im gonna wait for him to cross but not real sure02:32
naliothAndrewB: #ubuntu stays +f #ubuntu-unregged 02:33
AndrewBI know nalioth 02:34
LjL-Tempnalioth, he was saying #kubuntu. i set +r there too for a minute.02:34
AndrewBI didn't realise LjL had set -rR again..02:34
naliothhmm, when did #kubuntu stop running +f #ubuntu-unregged ?02:37
LjLno idea02:38
LjLok and after this, so much for IRC etiquette, but i'm disabling CTCP replies02:44
LjL... assuming konversation allow that02:45
gnomefreakmneptok: im gonna yell at you03:13
Tm_Thahahahahaha03:16
jdongis this wii guy a troll?03:17
gnomefreaknalioth: can you please kline wii hes now in #ubuntu-desktop being offtopic03:17
jdonghe's in #uf being incoherent03:17
Tm_Tjdong: very annoying one03:17
=== gnomefreak getting real tired of seeeing his ass pop up in other non related channels
gnomefreak.win 1803:18
jdongshould I worry about banning him or just wait for the fireworks?03:18
gnomefreakjdong: you ops in desktop?03:18
jdongnope03:18
jdongI only have access in #ubuntuforums :)03:18
gnomefreakah uf yes do it03:18
gnomefreakhes been banned pretty much across boards03:19
gnomefreakSeveas: if your up can you ban wii from -desktop03:20
Tm_Tban but not kick, let him see how people talk when not trolling03:21
gnomefreakTm_T:  he was given that chance03:21
Tm_Tgnomefreak: true03:21
gnomefreakhe screwed it up within 5 minutes03:21
PiciAre free k-lines usually given out to people who can't behave in any channel?03:22
Tm_TPici: I think he only needs sticker in his forehead03:22
gnomefreakPici: i asked for one since hes going to channels we are not ops in im waiting for motu or devel to get hit03:22
Tm_Tsaying "I'm an idiot, dont listen to me"03:22
jdong21:22  * wii Mii tink jdong is anoiying.he should just shut up and leave >_<03:22
jdong21:22 -!- mode/#ubuntuforums [+o jdong]  by ChanServ03:22
gnomefreakwhy set 60 bans when a kline does it03:22
jdong21:22 < wii> wait im sowiii03:22
Picijdong: I saw that :D03:22
jdong:D03:22
jdongROFL03:22
Tm_Tjdong: and then ban?03:23
gnomefreakomg i cant think of what he is03:23
Tm_Tjdong: come on, dont let us with excitement!03:23
gnomefreakbut its not nice03:23
jdongthere.03:23
jdong21:23 -!- wii [n=wii@AMarigot-102-1-9-150.w80-8.abo.wanadoo.fr]  has left  #ubuntuforums [requested by jdong: "mii tink wii is anoiying.he  should just shut up and leave >_<"] 03:23
jdong:D03:23
Tm_T<303:23
gnomefreakjdong: keep eyes open he will hit ever ubuntu-* out there03:24
mneptokgnomefreak: he doesn't stand a *chance* in -devel03:24
gnomefreakmneptok: you and colin are only 2 up03:24
gnomefreakthat i know of03:24
mneptokgnomefreak: i'm about to take preventive measures03:24
gnomefreakand hes mad at me i just dont have heart to tell him i was afk03:24
mneptokas i have no more time to play "wait for the asstard"03:25
Tm_T0424 < wii> Tm_T: u suck03:26
Tm_T<303:26
gnomefreakTm_T: in -desktop03:26
jdongTm_T: aww you have a fanclub!03:26
Tm_Tyup03:26
gnomefreak!staff03:26
ubotuHey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, BearPerson or ompaul! I could use a bit of your time :)03:26
Tm_Tjdong: I'm so hot <303:26
gnomefreakscrew playing around03:26
jdongTm_T: yes you are :)03:26
robsup?03:26
jdongkline wii03:26
Tm_Tjdong: lick me! <303:26
mneptokrob: *please*03:26
jdongTm_T: lol not now honey, daddy's busy hacking apparmor :)03:27
mneptokrob: mygoditburnsmakeitstop03:27
gnomefreakrob: kline this son of a bitch03:27
jdongmneptok: they have a lotion for that03:27
robsounds like a personal problem :P03:27
robwhat did he do?03:27
mneptokjdong: i hate the itching, but i don't mind the swelling.03:27
gnomefreakrob: wii is trolling in all channel;s03:27
PiciHes been banned from most of the main ubuntu channels and now is going after the lesser known, more serious ones.03:27
robwhich ones?03:27
gnomefreakhes now in channels we dont have ops in03:27
jdongrob: go into every #ubuntu* channel and troll03:27
gnomefreak#ubuntu-desktop atm03:27
robgive me some03:27
Pici-desktop, -bugs, -directory...03:27
jdong#ubuntuforums too03:27
robI have ops in everything03:28
gnomefreakweve got him from -effects #ubuntu #ubuntu+1 #ubuntu-offtopic kubuntu-*03:28
Tm_Trob: powersuit, suits you sir =)03:28
gnomefreakhere even03:28
mneptokrob: he's been abusive enough to warrant a k: IMO03:28
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robI just need to witness some of it to cover my butt03:28
gnomefreak21:26 <             wii > u all can go to ****03:28
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gnomefreakwant more?03:29
mneptokrob: we've asked you *many* times to leave that uncovered03:29
robas many as you want03:29
gnomefreak21:24 <             wii > Tm_T: u suck03:29
robmneptok, leave what uncovered?03:29
gnomefreaksa,e channel a few mintues apart03:29
mneptokrob: your butt03:29
gnomefreakjdong: you have #uf post?03:29
robmneptok, oh sorry :)03:29
jdongpastebinning03:29
gnomefreakrob: its been going on for last 4 hours or so03:30
gnomefreakim sure you can pretty much scroll in here and get the logs needed03:30
robI've joined pretty much all that you guys have mentioned so far03:30
Tm_Trob: I believe bans in #kubuntu* channels speaks itself (by several ops, not one)03:30
jdonghttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39614/03:30
jdongrob: ^^03:30
jdongnotable lines pasted there :)03:31
robso his nick is currently wii?03:31
gnomefreak20:22 <             wii > mneptok: fait come tu veux  << not sure what it means03:31
jdongyes03:31
jdongdo whatever you want?03:31
gnomefreak20:25 <            Tm_T+> 0317 < xp_killer> cubesi1: stop fucking chating so  fast03:31
jdongmy french sucks though :)03:31
jdong21:31 -!- wii [n=wii@AMarigot-102-1-9-150.w80-8.abo.wanadoo.fr] 03:32
mneptokgnomefreak: "do as you please"03:32
jdongrob: yeah he's still wii03:32
robI've not seen him say squat since I joined all those channels :)03:32
gnomefreakmneptok: ah ok03:32
gnomefreakand you did03:32
gnomefreakrob: not 1 minute before you joined he did03:32
Tm_Trob: should I provoke him a bit? =)03:32
mneptoknaturellement :)03:32
jdongTm_T: ROFL :)03:32
Tm_T0426 < Tm_T> wii: I love you03:32
Tm_T0426 < wii> i hate u03:32
Tm_T0426 < dobey> heh03:32
Tm_T0426 < wii> u all can go to ****03:32
Tm_Tsee, it's soo easy03:33
robthough mind you, I do have that affect on trolls usually03:33
mneptokI WANT TO GO TO THE STARS! I WANT TO MEET LT. UHURA!03:33
jdongrob: that hostmask will make him shut up fast....03:33
mneptok*ahem* 'scuse me.03:33
jdongI don't think he realized I was op03:33
Tm_Tall you need is love, pappadadaa, aal you need is love, love, loooooooooooveeee03:33
mneptokTm_T: i'd also like orgasms anh French fries.03:33
mneptok*and03:34
=== AndrewB throws some hears at Tm_T
AndrewBhearts even03:34
jdongmneptok: are those two things  related?!?!03:34
Tm_TAndrewB: hear hear!03:34
mneptokjdong: only if you're doing it right03:34
Tm_Tmneptok: hard and fast?03:35
Tm_Tmneptok: "more salt is better"03:35
jdongTm_T: OW!03:35
jdongthat'd sting!03:35
Tm_Twho wants pepper with it?03:36
gnomefreakrob: here is full log of what happened in -desktop http://paste.ubuntu.com/614/03:36
gnomefreaki know bits and peices dont mean much03:36
=== jdong giggles... /wii wii :)
mneptokplease don't slash your wii-wii on-channel03:37
Tm_Tjdong: I did that before this all started again =)03:37
mneptok#BDSM is down the hall03:37
=== jdong wonders if that's a real channel
gnomefreakjdong: you joining channels havent had best of records iirc03:38
gnomefreakbe careful03:38
jdonggnomefreak: mmm? I'm always in -motu03:38
jdongoh03:38
gnomefreakjdong: did you get auto kline once03:38
robmy god, he turned into a mute03:38
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jdonggnomefreak: lol, no, but I got VERY close :)03:38
jdonggnomefreak: not gonna go try #bdsm anytime soon :D03:38
mneptokrob: let's see if my presence changes that03:39
robheh03:39
gnomefreakrob: hold on a sec. some try the if you have nothing else please leave03:39
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mneptokHobbsee!!!!!!!!!!03:39
Tm_Tgnomefreak: I do ask that :)03:39
Picisigh.. crozar is back being himself in +103:39
gnomefreakPici: damn him03:40
ubotuIn #kubuntu, timbo__ said: ! what is kubuntu03:40
Tm_Tgnomefreak: nooo, it was my line!03:40
gnomefreaktell him im too busy for a 2nd troll right now03:40
gnomefreakTm_T: sorry :)03:40
Tm_Tnoooooooo03:40
gnomefreaki didnt look in here until after i typed it03:40
Tm_Tgnomefreak: I don't love you anymore (for a few seconds)03:40
gnomefreakdamnit atleast ban him in the channels we cant i going to start banning in -mozilla and anywhere else hes not yet like xubuntu03:41
Tm_Thaha03:41
Hobbseemneptok!!!03:42
mneptokHobbsee: would you be a love and throw me access to -motu? the ops list is distressingly short, and we've had a real charmer today.03:43
Hobbseemneptok: alas, i cannot.03:43
Hobbseei'm aware it's short, i've bitched at seveas about it before03:44
robI guess wii is off watching his cartoons after all03:44
Hobbseemneptok: join the channel first,a nd i can op you till you quit03:44
Hobbseeor rob can force-add you.03:44
gnomefreakHobbsee: having issues with wii hostmask @AMarigot-102-1-9-150.w80-8.abo.wanadoo.fr has been banned everywhere we can hes joining pretty much everywhere03:44
Hobbseeurgh03:45
mneptokHobbsee: i'll wait for Sev. it's not urgent, so no need to have rob circumvent procedure.03:45
robwhist I have the ability to I'm not part of the council, so I'd better not :)03:45
gnomefreaka few peremptive bans are set03:45
gnomefreak#kubuntu-devel and -desktop and -women havent been done03:45
gnomefreakeither has lp03:45
mneptokrob: agreed, unless it's a dire emergency, which this ain't.03:45
robyup03:45
Hobbseerob: can i force you to regardless?03:46
Hobbseerob: apparently Seveas doesnt even have access - it's back to sladen03:46
robHobbsee, you can force me to do whatever you like :)03:46
robexcept break freenode/ubuntu policies of cause..03:46
=== gnomefreak doesnt know who the coucil is anymore, but this is too long to be screwing witha troll
mneptokHobbsee: Riddell, too. i'll grab him when he awakes.03:47
Hobbseerob: OK, please boost my ops to 30, and i'll bug sladen when he wakes up.03:47
Hobbseethis is called the "irc council and associated members hijacking"03:48
Hobbseewhich, afaik, is a valid ubuntu policy03:48
robHobbsee, what channel, what for?03:49
gnomefreakoh wtf hes still there03:49
Hobbseerob: #ubuntu-motu03:49
gnomefreakrob: did you leave -desktop?03:49
Hobbseerob: and because we have no ops there.03:49
Hobbseeor close to none03:50
robgnomefreak, no I'm watching, but can't kline him because he smashed your Ubuntu mug (but I was tempted to)..03:50
gnomefreakrob: if he didnt do it in 5+ channels i wouldnt have asked03:50
Hobbseethanks rob, you're a star03:50
gnomefreakand most of us dont have ops everywhere he can go03:51
robHobbsee, done, please make sure you run it past seveas etc03:51
Hobbseerob: will do, but it's sladen's call, he's registered the channel.03:51
robHobbsee, okay, he will do. Seveas is the contact still iirc for Ubuntu, so he would have overruling power regardless as far as fn is concerned03:52
AndrewBBut are all #ubuntu-* channels not all technically owned by the group contact? [I assume seveas] 03:52
Hobbseerob: the irc council does now.  not seveas.03:52
Hobbseerob: the doco hasnt changed yet03:52
robAndrewB, yes. Hobbsee, then it would be the irc council itself.03:52
AndrewBIs the IRC council all setup?03:53
Hobbseeyeah03:53
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mneptokPici: do you need an op to deal with him?03:54
Picimneptok: no, hes just being clueless.03:54
robit looks like he is just being teeth-gratingly dumb, rather then a troll03:54
PiciHe never should have installed Gutsy.03:55
robpretty much, though the big banner on the front page of ubuntu.com doesn't help there either03:55
Tm_T!fr | mneptok 03:55
ubotumneptok: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.03:56
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mneptokTm_T: he's saying he likes me more than you or stdin, and i'm telling him you guys are my friends and pissing you off pisses me off.03:57
Tm_TI see03:57
gnomefreakok my french must be really really bad03:58
AndrewBmneptok: everybody does like you more ;)03:59
gnomefreaki thought he said he loves Tm_T 03:59
gnomefreakbut could just be a bit rusty03:59
robooh Hobbsee is on the attack..03:59
Hobbseethis guy is being a git.03:59
mneptokAndrewB: bribery works, dude.03:59
gnomefreakwhere?04:00
gnomefreakHobbsee: are you core-dev?04:00
gnomefreaki think hes gonna start up soon04:01
Hobbseegnomefreak: yes.04:01
robHobbsee, maybe, but filing a bug is pretty daunting for the average user, and most of them won't get the kind of answers we would when we speak to Ubuntu development circles04:01
mneptokrob: see -desktop. the profanity has started.04:01
robhe is probably just in over his head and knows it04:02
Hobbseerob: this guy has filed 3, and has also raised it on the u-d-d ML.  he's also asked this a couple of times previously, and got no response04:02
gnomefreakHobbsee: i was told i need core-dev to sponsor a backport (change in source from whats in dapper backports. if i give you bug after i watch this -desktop show can you look at it04:02
mneptokrob: along with the (painfully predictable) insta-faux-regret04:02
gnomefreaki told ljl he was split personality04:02
robHobbsee, I guess he just wants it fixed then, sounds like a typical but persistent user04:03
Tm_Tgnomefreak: what is this core-dev issue?04:03
gnomefreakTm_T: when a backported package has source changes it needs to be sponsored by core-dev and than i heard i had to poke archive admin04:03
gnomefreakjdon_g already gave it his apporval04:04
Hobbseegnomefreak: email me?  (and i know, nspluginviwere too)04:04
gnomefreakHobbsee: asac was supposed to do that iceape so i didnt bother asking him about this04:04
Tm_Tgnomefreak: yup04:04
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robmaybe we should just kick him out of -desktop04:07
jdonggnomefreak: in my experiencei t's fastest if you can flag down Colin :)04:07
robwii aka xp_killer04:07
jdonggnomefreak: tollef's a good second option but he can be a bit harder to convince and sweet talk :)04:07
Hobbseeoh, do you need kicking out of there too?04:08
Hobbseecolin and tollef wont be awake04:08
gnomefreakjdong: im not high on colins list atm i was afk and didnt tell him he asked for bug on gimp and i didnt give him one since i wasnt here and i forgot about it whaen i was here04:08
Hobbseejdong: tollef's not hard to sweet talk, if you do it right.04:09
Hobbseegnomefreak: dude, he understands people being afk.  he's not the gremlin you think he is.04:09
gnomefreakall other channels are good so far he hasnt gone into -women yet nor LP04:09
jdongHobbsee: well you're far more charming :)04:09
mneptokjdong: be sure to mention unicorns, lutefisk, and aqavit04:09
gnomefreakHobbsee: i know but hes working late and i didnt help it any04:09
Hobbseenot this late?04:09
gnomefreakplus hes working on cupsys tonight04:10
gnomefreakHobbsee: he was just in hter eworking04:10
Hobbseeoh, so he is still up.  that's gone thru04:10
gnomefreakthis is late for him (hes in UK i thought)04:10
jdonggnomefreak: can this package/fix be just backported from gutsy to dapper or feisty or anything?04:10
gnomefreakjdong: i did from gutsy since it was latest stable with most fixes04:10
Hobbseegnomefreak: indeed.04:10
jdonggnomefreak: does a no-source-change backport from Gutsy work across dapper->feisty?04:11
gnomefreakcould have done it from feisty as well i guess, no its still upstream differnce04:11
gnomefreak9.0.31 > 9.0.4904:11
gnomefreakor whatever the numberse are04:11
gnomefreak!info flashplugin-nonfree feisty04:12
ubotuflashplugin-nonfree: Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 9.0.48.0.0ubuntu1~7.04.1 (feisty), package size 15 kB, installed size 108 kB (Only available for i386)04:12
jdonggnomefreak: can we backport the newest (gutsy) version to all supported Ubuntu releases?04:12
gnomefreakjdong: if you want04:12
jdonggnomefreak: hmm if it works I don't see the harm04:12
jdonggnomefreak: though Jucato can tell you about my flashplugin curse :)04:12
gnomefreakits easy enough just need a day if you want it the same as this last one04:12
gnomefreaki did feistys already04:13
jdonggnomefreak: All I would need for that is a build-and-install test on dapper-feisty04:13
gnomefreakwhen the md5sum first surfaced04:13
jdonggnomefreak: an approved no-source-change backport is handled a lot faster by archive admins04:13
gnomefreak!info flashplugin-nonfree edgy04:14
ubotuflashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.68~ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 164 kB (Only available for i386)04:14
Piciedgy-backports I thought04:14
gnomefreakyep we need to do edgy but again another source change04:14
gnomefreak!info flashplugin-nonfree edgy-backports04:14
ubotuflashplugin-nonfree: Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 9.0.31.0.1ubuntu1~edgy1 (edgy-backports), package size 14 kB, installed size 108 kB (Only available for i386)04:14
jdonggnomefreak: why do we need source changes? :(04:14
gnomefreak.31>.4804:14
gnomefreaklatest stable in gutsy is 9.0.48 and look at other versions04:15
gnomefreakthose are upstream set versions04:15
gnomefreakthat tells me source change04:16
gnomefreakno sence in trying to merge newest changes into older packages unless we take everything and move it04:16
gnomefreakbut yes updating edgys should be it out side of dappers, the changes made shouldnt effect feistys version04:17
gnomefreak!info flashplugin-nonfree gutsy04:18
ubotuflashplugin-nonfree: Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 9.0.48.0.0ubuntu11 (gutsy), package size 17 kB, installed size 156 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia)04:18
gnomefreakyep dapper and edgy if you wish i can have it ready tomorrow04:19
jdonggnomefreak: wait, so what's the reason why we can't just backport gutsy's version to everything without source changes?04:20
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Hobbseehaha04:21
gnomefreakjdong: becasue the upstream version is no the same04:22
jdonggnomefreak: oh that blows :(04:22
Tm_Trob: what, where?04:22
gnomefreakyes i know04:22
jdonggnomefreak: does this bug affect all releases of Ubuntu?04:22
gnomefreaki did feistys didnt think of edgys than04:22
gnomefreakso far just dapper atm04:22
robTm_T, various channels -alaska, -desktop, various -fr channels04:22
Tm_TI see04:22
gnomefreakjdong: when i get edgy chroot up tomorrow ill test and let you know04:22
rob+ I have all of you to vouch for him :)04:23
gnomefreakgo for it04:23
gnomefreakjdong: i tried to get SRU for it in first place but since it was already backported decided to go with newest version to backport04:24
jdonggnomefreak: I'm thinking of backporting the feisty-modified one to everything else.... so fewest source-changes possible :)04:24
gnomefreakstill source changes since feistys is gutsys without the nspluginwrapper fixes and friends04:25
gnomefreakthat was after all the fixed perminst fixed it for real this time, now i really did fix it this time crap04:25
gnomefreakjdong: btw its gonna have to be done again soon04:27
jdonggnomefreak: *grumble* screw you, Adobe :)04:27
gnomefreaklol04:28
gnomefreakadobe started keeping the name of the package the same but upgrading it so if next release is 9.0.* than we have to do this over again in hardy04:31
gnomefreakif they move to 10 im not real sure if they will keep the 9 series around or not04:32
gnomefreakeither way you look at it gutsy and feisty are the 2 that are up to date for most part and should be used if backporting feistys is fine for edgy and dapper if you want that instead it just shaves off a few changelog entries04:33
gnomefreakmaybe 6 or so04:33
jdonggnomefreak: thanks for taking care of all this stuff :)04:33
jdongthat's really painful, Adobe04:34
gnomefreakthis is easy stuff04:34
gnomefreakflash is about the easiest fix ive done to date and i can say it cant hurt for motu memebership if i ever stop scaring myself04:34
Hobbseegnomefreak: what is this debdiff against?04:35
gnomefreakdappers backported one to gutsy04:35
Hobbseedo you have a done source, with the debdiff already applied?04:35
gnomefreakthe one jdong uploaded was before md5sum mismatch issue04:35
gnomefreakyes i have source packages04:36
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gnomefreaksince it was changed already04:36
gnomefreakits gutsys package built for dapper04:36
gnomefreaksince upstream version changed04:37
gnomefreakjdong: i dont see the harm in backporting from gutsy to edgy that way dapper edgy feisty are all the same04:38
Hobbseeoh, so that's dapper backport1's to current.  got it.04:38
gnomefreakyep04:38
gnomefreakjdong: but your backports boss you tell me what you want and i will make flash happen04:39
jdonggnomefreak: you can pick whichever way you pick, I'm just saying the more source-cahgne uploads you do, the more irked archive admins will be04:39
jdonggnomefreak: I'm fine either way, whatever you can slip by Colin :)04:40
gnomefreakyeah i know but for quilty of a piece of crap package04:40
gnomefreakwould rather not have to revist flash ever 3 months because of an issue04:40
jdongyeah :(04:41
Hobbseegnomefreak: nyah, nyah.  you could just fix the patch, couldnt you?04:41
gnomefreakHobbsee: yes i did that at first and i was told to backport gutsys by fuj.... it made more sense04:42
Hobbseesarah@liquified:~/current/flashplugin-nonfree-9.0.31.0.1ubuntu1~dapper1$ patch -p0 --dry-run < ../flashplugin-nonfree.debdiff04:42
Hobbseecan't find file to patch at input line 404:42
HobbseePerhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option?04:42
HobbseeThe text leading up to this was:04:42
Hobbsee--------------------------04:42
Hobbsee|diff -Nru /tmp/qMbwXq8cyz/flashplugin-nonfree-9.0.31.0.1ubuntu1~dapper1/debian/changelog /tmp/DlYW0TEMd9/flashplugin-nonfree-9.0.48.0.0ubuntu11~dapper2/debian/changelog04:42
Hobbsee|--- /tmp/qMbwXq8cyz/flashplugin-nonfree-9.0.31.0.1ubuntu1~dapper1/debian/changelog     2007-02-05 08:15:21.000000000 -050004:42
Hobbsee|+++ /tmp/DlYW0TEMd9/flashplugin-nonfree-9.0.48.0.0ubuntu11~dapper2/debian/changelog    2007-10-03 18:59:34.000000000 -040004:42
Hobbsee--------------------------04:42
HobbseeFile to patch:      04:42
gnomefreakok damn asac04:42
gnomefreakwait a minute why am i seeing changelog04:43
Hobbseeusing -p1 is standard, but it chokes with -p0 too.04:43
Hobbseepleasefix.04:43
Hobbseebah. i t wont let me use p-104:43
Hobbseegnomefreak: you know how to?04:43
gnomefreakHobbsee: well yeah but i think its because of mid-browser04:43
Hobbseebecause it's part of the diff04:43
Hobbseeno, it's because you need to have flashplugin-nonfree-9.0.31.0.1ubuntu1~dapper1/debian/changelog, not the /tmp/ crap in front04:44
gnomefreakcan always take that part out, whatever part is failing but give me a minute 04:44
Hobbseeit's relative paths, not absolute04:44
=== Hobbsee fixes
gnomefreakHobbsee: i dont have tmp04:44
Hobbseethat debdiff does04:44
=== gnomefreak wonders why and goes to look
Hobbseeprobably because you didnt run debdiff from the dir above the source04:46
gnomefreakHobbsee: theres /tmp/ right through it04:46
Hobbseeyes, there is04:46
gnomefreakHobbsee: want me to rerun it04:46
Hobbseenah, deleting it here - but please dont give me another diff like that again04:46
gnomefreakHobbsee: ty and you got it04:46
Hobbseeright, fixed.04:47
=== Hobbsee builds.
=== Hobbsee uploads
HobbseeUploading to ubuntu (via ftp to upload.ubuntu.com):04:48
Hobbsee  flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.48.0.0ubuntu11~dapper2.dsc: done.04:48
Hobbsee  flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.48.0.0ubuntu11~dapper2.tar.gz: done.04:48
Hobbsee  flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.48.0.0ubuntu11~dapper2_source.changes: done.04:48
HobbseeSuccessfully uploaded packages.04:48
HobbseeNot running dinstall.04:48
gnomefreakHobbsee: ty now i have to ping archive admin tomorrow than04:49
jdongthanks Hobbsee  :)04:50
=== Hobbsee did a lot of /tmp and n's, and d5w's :)
gnomefreakHobbsee: i will make sure you dont get that crap again04:50
Hobbseegreat, thanks :)04:50
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gnomefreakok will have edgys done tomorrow, night all and thank you Hobbsee 05:00
Hobbseeno problem05:00
gnomefreakthank you rob or Hobbsee 05:01
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Hobbseewas me05:01
Hobbseeand you're welcome.05:01
Tm_Thahaha05:17
Tm_Tits 0617 here where I am05:18
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gnomefreakits 23:1705:18
Tm_TI just did repair old tube radio to be my guitar amp and I ofcourse tested it05:18
Tm_Tso, I played out loud ofcourse05:18
gnomefreakbed time == 210005:18
Tm_Thrhrhrhr05:18
Tm_TI left knife on the floor05:18
Tm_Tand I accidentally kicked it while playing05:19
Tm_Tso now my toe is bleeding05:19
Tm_Tbut I dont care because I got lovely guitar amp <3<3<3<305:19
coreymon77wow05:22
coreymon77everyone watch #kubuntu05:22
coreymon77this jmerlin guy is really funny05:22
coreymon77dumd as a rusted doorknob05:22
Madpilotis it worth joining #k just for troll-flavoured fun?05:23
coreymon77yes05:23
coreymon77this is funny05:23
coreymon77the guy thinks he can restart xorg without logging of kde or loosing any content from the open programs05:24
Jucatocoreymon77: you are not helping at all05:24
gnomefreak!info flashplugin-nonfree edgy-backports05:35
ubotuflashplugin-nonfree: Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 9.0.31.0.1ubuntu1~edgy1 (edgy-backports), package size 14 kB, installed size 108 kB (Only available for i386)05:35
gnomefreakgoodie05:36
Tm_Tmooh05:36
Jucatowoot05:36
Jucatohappy happy edgy users :)05:36
Amaranthwho the hell still uses edgy?05:39
tonyyarussowell, it is still supported05:40
tonyyarussoMadpilot and Burgundavia had a box running Breezy at last check.05:40
Amaranthnot by me :P05:40
AmaranthSomeone shows up using edgy I tell them to upgrade05:41
tonyyarussopretty please does someone know javascript and php?05:41
AmaranthSomeone shows up using feisty and complaining about compiz-related things I tell them to upgrade :)05:41
Madpilotfar as I know it's still running, but we don't host ubuntu.ca on it anymore. We did until a few weeks ago. :)05:41
Amaranthtonyyarusso: yeah, why05:41
tonyyarussoAmaranth: I'm looking for someone to translate http://www.ubuntu.com/files/countdown/dist/display.js to PHP05:41
Amaranthuh, ok05:41
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AmaranthI have to use PHP again :P05:42
tonyyarussoAmaranth: wastrel just suggested http://pastie.caboo.se/103972 - could you double-check that?05:44
tonyyarussoIf it's right it will save you some time (maybe), otherwise, well...05:45
tonyyarussohe's just guessing, btw05:45
Amaranthtonyyarusso: oh, i just finished :P05:46
tonyyarussohehe, ok05:46
Amaranthmore or less the same code05:47
gnomefreakwhy the hell do all my debdiffs have /tmp/ in them :(05:47
gnomefreakis there a way to prevent this?05:48
tonyyarussoAmaranth: pastebin of yours?05:48
Amaranthtonyyarusso: http://dev.realistanew.com/countdown.php05:48
Amaranthmy code is it's own pastebin ;)05:48
tonyyarussohehe05:49
AmaranthI just used the JS version and used CSS to tweak it on my site05:49
Amaranthhttp://www.realistanew.com <--look no annoying text05:49
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gnomefreakjdong: edgys debdiff is up on bug 8087006:52
ubotuLaunchpad bug 80870 in flashplugin-nonfree "Edgy backports Flash 9 won't complete download of Flash" [Medium,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8087006:52
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stdinI see wii/garfeild/xp_killer got banned again...08:12
Tm_Tstdin: and k-lined eventually08:15
stdinlovely08:16
Jucatogood you too are round08:16
Jucato*around*08:16
stdinthat's not an excuse to run off now :p08:17
tonyyarussoJucato: *two*08:17
Jucatohey... I've held the fort early this morning when there was a huge amount of traffic and offtopic nonsense...08:17
Jucatotonyyarusso: yeah that too :)08:18
Jucatomy stock of patience for the day ran out quite early so I'm off to do what I should have been doing hours ago :P08:18
Tm_TJucato: my patience ran out yesterday and I'm still here =)08:19
stdinmy patience ran out after being called a troll yesterday :)08:20
Jucatoyou're *here*. wish you were *there* earlier08:20
Jucatobut you are one :)08:20
Jucatoanyway, I have something to do so... it's all yours :)08:21
Tm_TJucato: haha, I was playing guitar at that moment08:21
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stdinheh, so I see08:23
Tm_Tstdin: bah, this plzzz is anoying me08:26
Tm_TI'm off to pharmacy, keep the house up plsthx08:26
stdin:)08:27
ubotuIn ubotu, trdracer said: all that is code to me...08:27
Madpilothehehe08:28
Jucatostdin: careful of the jmerlin guy btw08:34
stdinyeah, I was there last night 08:34
stdineven /remove'd him once :)08:35
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Jucatonope I didn't.. yet...08:35
stdinno, I did :p08:35
Jucatoah ok08:35
stdinlast night = ~8-9 hours ago (i think)08:35
Jucatoalmost +m the channel earlier this morning though...08:35
Jucatoah mine was about 4-5 hours ago08:35
stdinwell, he must have acted up a few time while I was sleeping too 08:37
Jucatohe did...08:37
stdinwow, 1st time was actually 12 hours ago 08:38
JucatoI bet it won't be the last08:38
stdincomplaining because k3b in gutsy wouldn't detect dis writer08:38
Jucatobut hey yeah I think I remember him acting up ~12 hours ago too (my last night)08:38
Jucatooh well. anyway...08:38
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Jucatostdin: ask him to spend a few hours to implement what he said he could in a few hours of hacking :)09:01
stdinon a side note, C++ is getting confusing for me. I'm on a part about overloading operators and it's making my head implode09:03
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Jucatoprobably next week. that's the next chapter in my book09:03
stdinI'm taking a self-enforced break for a few hours before I even attempt to read any more :p09:04
Jucatohehe09:05
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stdinTm_T: I commended on the "*!*n=wii@*.w80-8.abo.wanadoo.fr" ban in bantracker, but in case you don't read it I said "As far as I'm concerned, this ban should stand until such time we decide to review (if ever). I've had enough of this guy."10:02
Tm_T:))10:02
Tm_Twell he's k-lined10:02
Tm_TIMHO that says it all10:02
Hobbseeso what was he actualy doing?10:02
stdinbeing the most annoying person on the planet mostly10:02
Tm_THobbsee: except evading bans "accidentally" over and over again, violating coc, provoking people, heavy offtopicing, etc etc10:03
Hobbseei figured that much10:03
HobbseeTm_T: yay..10:03
stdincontinually offtopic, using "mii" instead of "me" and saying "pikachu >.<" all the damn time :p10:03
Tm_Tand spreading his issue to *everywhere*10:03
Tm_Tstdin: thats his smallest sin =)10:04
stdinyeah, but it wares on ya :p10:04
stdinplus (on a personal note), he just loves to start every question with "stdin:"10:04
Hobbseeheh10:05
stdinmost annoying person ever! 10:05
Tm_Tstdin: no, he also hilighted me a lot10:05
Tm_Tstdin: not to mention directing every guy to talk to me too =)10:05
stdinTm_T: yeah, because he found out you were an op10:05
Tm_Tyup10:05
Tm_The also whined ops10:06
Tm_T"let me be an op!"10:06
Tm_Tat his early moments10:06
stdinthat was his 1st ban I think10:06
stdinahh, memories10:06
Tm_Tindeed10:06
stdinthe multiple ban evasion was the clincher I think, then joining every channel and complaining about his ban(s)10:07
stdinoh well, if I see him in #k it's ban first and ask questions never10:08
Hobbseestdin: i'd imagine ban on sight, anywhere.10:08
stdinwell, I only have op in #k, so that's all I can act on :p10:08
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Hobbsee!ping10:22
ubotupong10:22
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jussi01Hmmm, that was fun....10:57
Tm_T?11:00
jussi01Tm_T: I just walked into work, where the pc was on all night... 3.18 am... #ubuntu...11:00
Tm_Thummmm11:01
Tm_Tany #ubuntu ops awake?11:03
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Madpilotmostly11:14
MadpilotTm_T, ??11:14
Tm_Twait11:15
Tm_TI lost my point =)11:15
Tm_Tone sec11:15
Tm_T"For you ST47 :) <3 w00t" was set to realname in several of last nights exploit run11:16
Tm_Ttime to set realname ban for it?11:16
Tm_TMadpilot: sounds reasonable?11:17
Madpilotsure11:18
Madpilotwe had a bot attack run again?11:19
Tm_Twell 9 hours ago11:19
Tm_Tjussi01 reminded me11:19
jussi01hehe11:19
Tm_TMadpilot: if you think it might work, please do :)11:21
Madpilotif I could remember how to set a realname ban at 0220, I would11:21
Tm_Theh, I cant remember it either11:22
Madpilotah, the Mad Dutchman's wonderful script can do namebans11:22
Tm_Twonderbra-- I mean script11:23
jussi01is it not jujst +d ?11:23
Tm_Tsomething like that11:23
Madpilothmm, is not working...11:24
jussi01+d (realname ban)   This mode takes one parameter, a mask which is matched against the so-called "Real Name" field each client supplies, and prevents any matching clients from sending to the channel or joining it. It accepts the standard * and ? wildcards.11:24
jussi01just to save you going to look it up... :)11:25
Tm_Tjussi01: thanks11:25
jussi01:)11:25
Madpilotso /mode +d "For you ST47 :) <3 w00t"    should work11:26
Madpilotlet's see11:26
jussi01should... :)11:26
Madpilotnope. breaks on the first space11:26
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Tm_TMadpilot: ? in spaces then11:26
Madpilot* #ubuntu "For?you?ST47?:)?<3?w00t" :Channel ban list is full11:27
Tm_Touch11:27
jussi01hehe...11:27
MadpilotI had thought we'd had #u set to unlimited ban list length - evidently not11:28
MadpilotI hate doing mass-unbans like that, it spams hell out of the channel11:30
Tm_TMadpilot: better than having banlist full11:30
jussi01hehe... what were they? the oldest ones?11:31
Madpilotsome of the stuff in #u's banlist is from MAY, ffs11:31
Madpilotya, just going to the bottom of the list11:31
jussi01:)11:31
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Madpilotthere, finally got that nameban in place, and I'll stop spamming the channel now11:33
MadpilotKennethP, can we help you?11:33
Tm_TMadpilot: =)11:33
KennethPMadpilot: No, but thanks - just arrived here out of sheer curiosity...11:33
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Tm_T:(11:35
jussi01hmmm....11:36
Tm_Thmm, #kubuntu has #ubuntu-unwrecked mode on11:37
stdinthat only comes in to effect when it's +i11:40
Tm_TI know11:40
Tm_Tbut didnt notice it before11:40
Hobbseezomg http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56761811:41
jussi01someone want to watch out for <TheSkorm> in #ubuntu - he will be back soon i imagine...11:41
Jucatostdin: what's wrong with pikachu? :(11:43
mc44Hobbsee: 6. A PONY11:43
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=== Jucato is a rock type right now...
Tm_T?11:43
Jucatorock/ground type...11:44
=== stdin sets a water type on Jucato then
Hobbseehaha11:44
Hobbseethis is the one who bitched about me closing his bugs.11:44
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Tm_THobbsee: err, he appears to be one of these guys who comes from nowhere and without having a clue about things they come to tell what to do11:45
Tm_Tam I right?11:45
HobbseeTm_T: nah.11:46
Tm_Thmm11:46
Tm_Thow mp3 ripping is currently hard?11:46
jussi01oh yeah, the famous "Sarah Hobbs is a Jerk" bug....11:46
=== Tm_T doesnt understand
stdinjust someone who want's things done but doesn't want to do anything about it11:47
Tm_Tstdin: ah, almost as bad11:47
mc44bug: I want Playstation 3 emulation on ubuntu11:47
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stdinreply: "STFU n00b" :p11:49
Hobbseenah...11:49
Tm_Tmc44: )(11:50
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Hobbseerefresh11:51
Hobbseethe last thread was better.11:51
jussi01Hobbsee: LOL... you are so mean...11:51
Madpilotdoes that bug report still exist, or was it deleted too?11:53
Hobbseeabout me being a jerk?11:53
Hobbseei marked it as private, in the hope that google wouldnt cache it11:53
Hobbseehis others all still exist.11:53
Madpilotwhat username? I need a laugh.11:53
HobbseeMadpilot: bug 147493 and others.11:58
ubotuLaunchpad bug 147493 in ubuntu "Ardour, Jack, Password Nightmares." [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14749311:58
HobbseeMadpilot: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/%7Erhy-deactivatedaccount/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-datecreated&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=INVALID&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_contact=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.status_upstream-empty-marker=1&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch.used=&field.tag=&field.has_cve.used=11:59
HobbseeMadpilot: the sarah hobbs is a jerk bug is at http://rafb.net/p/HaR1kS80.html12:00
=== gnomefreak has someone that keeps bugging me about upgrading ardour
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jussi01loving how busy #kubuntu is.........12:01
MadpilotHobbsee, fun. Nice to make friends, isn't it?12:02
=== jussi01 sighs and understands gnomefreak's problem...
AmaranthHobbsee: What bug number was that?12:02
AmaranthSome of us still have access. :P12:02
Tm_Tjussi01: lovely, isnt it12:05
jussi01Tm_T: Yea.....12:06
Tm_Tjussi01: I wonder how randomized kickbans would make it alive =)12:06
MadpilotI love the title he gave bug 14749412:07
ubotuLaunchpad bug 147494 in ubuntu "Update Manager Breaking Random Stuff" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14749412:07
jussi01Tm_T: nah.... 12:07
jussi01lol Madpilot12:07
ikoniagnomefreak: heads up in #ubuntu+112:07
gnomefreaki saw12:07
gnomefreakty12:07
Madpilot"but for us testers, things should work more smoothly." <-- does not get the point of pre-beta releases, evidently...12:08
Tm_T?12:09
gnomefreakMadpilot: :( if it ran smppthly why the hell would we need testers 12:09
gnomefreakask him that ;)12:09
Madpilotthe person in question has deleted their LP account and stalked off in a huff, so no point asking them anything...12:10
gnomefreakwas it a member or just another user?12:10
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stdinjust a moaner12:11
gnomefreakah12:11
gnomefreakstdin: you ran off and missed all the ummmm fun12:11
gnomefreaki use fun very loosly12:12
stdinwhen?12:12
stdinand where?12:12
gnomefreakstarted about 10 hours ago and lasted a couple of hours i would say12:12
gnomefreakstdin: pick a #ubuntu-* channel12:12
gnomefreakstdin: remeber wii/xp_killer?12:13
stdinyou mean with wii12:13
stdinyeah, I noticed that when I woke up12:13
gnomefreakah12:13
stdinI also noted in bantracker "As far as I'm concerned, this ban should stand until such time we decide to review (if ever). I've had enough of this guy."12:14
stdinbecause he's annoyed me for over a month, so bans and k-lines are good :p12:14
gnomefreakah didnt know you had a fan base12:19
gnomefreakwell after last night im with you on the if ever :)12:20
ikoniasounds very interesting is wii the same persona as xp_killer12:49
Tm_Tit is12:50
gnomefreakikonia: crozer or whatever that guys name is, is boarderline troll so be careful what time you spend on him. his issue is either user error or gutsy bug or bad drive bad drive being first choice12:58
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ikoniagnomefreak he's on ignore now12:58
ikoniagnomefreak I think the drive is dead due to it failing to even spin up12:58
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gnomefreakhes now someone elses issue im going out for a little while before rush hour starts01:02
ikoniagnomefreak laters01:02
gnomefreakikonia: until he can listen.01:03
gnomefreakill remove it maybe later today01:04
gnomefreaknickren;s ban01:04
gnomefreakout now ;)01:04
gnomefreakboth of his bans are now for 24 hours no shorter01:07
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Tm_Tgnomefreak: bye01:07
HobbseeAmaranth: 14753601:08
HobbseeAmaranth: are you in secuirty?01:09
AmaranthHobbsee: QA team01:13
AmaranthInteresting, I have access to other security bugs01:13
AmaranthOh, because they're against compiz :)01:14
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HobbseeAmaranth: yes :)01:25
=== Hobbsee lists the bug reports on the forum thread
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HobbseeAmaranth: now lets see what happens :)01:28
ubotuerUSUL called the ops in #ubuntu01:29
Hobbseethis is the problem of not being in #ubuntu all the time...01:30
HobbseeAmaranth: can you deal with it?01:31
mc44Hobbsee: you know playing on the forums isn't good for your sanity :)01:35
Hobbseemc44: hehe :)01:35
Hobbseemc44: yeah, but this guy is...01:36
mc44quite01:36
Hobbseemc44: what's your take on #ubuntu?01:37
Hobbseedjviper is looking to be an op - no idea if he's any good01:39
stdinwow, a kick not even remove :p01:39
Hobbseehe's trying to render the system unbootable.  therefore troll, therefore kickban.01:40
Picitheskorm = troll01:40
HobbseePici: he's kickbanned :)01:40
Hobbseestdin: help deal with it, please01:40
PiciOh, too late ;)01:41
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HobbseePici: you too01:41
stdinsure,01:41
Hobbseeno, the next group of nutters who come in01:41
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ikonialooks you chaps are having fun01:48
LjLservice announcement, archive.ubuntu.com, us.archive.ubuntu.com (which currently point to the same canonical servers) and security.ubuntu.com are currently mostly unusable02:30
gnomefreaka bit slow i would say02:31
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LjLgnomefreak: i think there is something aside from slowness, otherwise they wouldn't point to the same mirror02:32
LjLthey never did afaik02:32
Tm_TFetched 197B in 2m13s (1B/s)02:33
Tm_T=)02:33
gnomefreakTm_T: im not even tat slow02:33
gnomefreakthat*02:33
gnomefreakHobbsee: i still need to ping archive admin for the 2 flash uploads right?02:33
gnomefreakFetched 1794B in 59s (30B/s) see not too too slow02:38
gnomefreakshould be faster :)02:38
Tm_Tgnomefreak: bit of hurry?02:38
stdinFetched 637B in 1s (490B/s) :)02:39
gnomefreaknot at all i stayed up all night to finish up some work slept about an hour and back here again02:39
gnomefreakstdin: has a t* connection02:39
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gnomefreakdid my troll come back?02:40
Hobbseegnomefreak: i dunno :)02:40
gnomefreaki cant believe i had 2 this morning one boarderline the other just doesnt liten worth a darn.02:41
gnomefreakHobbsee: ty for the other flash upload.02:41
Hobbseeno problem02:41
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ikoniaPici: thinaks a lot ;) he's in the LFS support irc server now questioning coreutils pain 03:00
ubotuikonia called the ops in #ubuntu03:46
LjLsolved03:47
ikoniaooh yes03:48
ikoniaquick turn around from pici03:48
ikoniaalthough I'm still grumpy with pici for unloading a pain user on to me03:48
Piciikonia: :p03:48
ikoniaha ha03:49
Piciikonia: As long as hes not in #ubuntu...03:49
ikoniayeah thanks03:49
ikoniaI may return the favour by suggesting all the ones having problems try "ubuntu" 03:49
Picihehe03:49
LjLPici: ?! what the heck03:49
LjLyou're opped and not in the access list, what sort of new policy is that :P03:50
PiciLjL: er... blame Hobbsee 03:50
Hobbseehm?03:50
Hobbseeoh yeah03:50
LjLoh, i always do03:50
HobbseeLjL: no one else was here, i was going afk, and they were around.03:50
PiciI'll deop now if you're going to be around03:50
Hobbseeand they needed ops03:50
LjLPici: i couldn't care less honestly03:51
LjLHobbsee: perhaps we could just fix the access list, though03:51
HobbseeLjL: if we had privs, then yes we could.03:51
Hobbseebut i have an access of <3003:51
LjLHobbsee: we have the priv of using a hammer on the head of those who have privs03:52
Hobbseeyou do, yes.03:52
Hobbseealthough i usurped that hammer for -motu earlier03:52
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ikoniais that allowed in the coc ?03:52
LjLikonia: the hammer *is* the standard CoC procedure for requesting actions from people with more privileges.03:53
Hobbseeikonia: in some circmstances, yes.03:53
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Hobbseelike stabbing people is acceptable by the code of conduct, in some circumstances.03:59
LjLikonia: it's allowed by "them" to turn the hammer back on you, however.03:59
LjLit's a risk you have to take :)03:59
ikoniaI like it04:00
ikoniaa gable04:00
ikoniagamble04:00
HobbseeLjL: unless you are She Who Must Be Obeyed, and wields the Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 04:00
Hobbseein which case they're not stupid enough to try04:00
LjLHobbsee: sure, elkbuntu is entirely another issue.04:00
Hobbseehah04:00
LjL(i have the mouse on the "Op/Kick" button, for the record)04:01
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Hobbseefracking chanserv04:01
LjLi told you.04:01
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Hobbseei win.04:01
Hobbseedamn thing always lags.04:01
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LjLi'm thinking about it.04:02
LjLhm.04:02
LjLyeah.04:02
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Seeker`op abuse!04:02
jussi01hheheehhhhh04:02
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LjLwe're even :P04:03
Hobbsee:P04:03
ikoniaHobbsee: frack ? you a battlestart galactica fan ?04:03
Picihehe04:03
Hobbseeno04:04
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Seeker`how do you set up a ban so that they are forwarded into another channel?05:37
stdinSeeker`: add !#channel to the end of a normal ban05:38
Hobbseestdin: ++05:38
stdinlike *!*@host.com!#channel05:38
Seeker`shall I ban him ty05:38
Seeker`orry05:38
Seeker`gah, cant type05:38
Seeker`*thanks05:39
PiciI need to setup an alias for that...05:39
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stdin /cs kf someone :)05:39
stdin /cs kf someone #channel05:40
Hobbsee-ENOXCHAT05:40
stdinI know, I hate myself for using it05:40
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effie_jayxnalioth,  ping05:52
stdinarchive.ubuntu.com seems to be back up again now05:59
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naliotheffie_jayx: pong06:19
effie_jayxnalioth,  I want to find out about a freenode group subscription... I already spoke to SportChick about it and she couldn't find the application of  the group06:21
naliotheffie_jayx: ok06:33
effie_jayxnalioth,  shall I fill the application again?... it's been 3 months now)06:34
naliotheffie_jayx: i would help if you told me the group name06:34
effie_jayxnalioth,  velug06:34
naliotheffie_jayx: i can only tell you it's in the queue06:35
effie_jayxnalioth,  it is there then... 06:35
SportChickeffie_jayx: I never said I couldn't find it06:46
SportChickeffie_jayx: you pinged me the other night when I was sleeping - you got an automated message saying *I* was away :)06:47
effie_jayxSportChick,  Hey there... I never wanted to make you feel like you wasted your time. how unconsiderate of me 06:51
effie_jayxsorry 06:51
effie_jayxnalioth and SportChick  thank you both06:57
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SportChickeffie_jayx: I didn't think you were saying that :)  I just wanted to clarify that i'd never said i couldn't find the GCF - only that it was in process07:34
effie_jayxall cleared then 07:38
effie_jayx:D07:38
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PiciThat was dumb.07:57
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coreymon77guys08:04
coreymon77thekookiguy is posting inappropriate urls that he says will help people08:04
coreymon77in the #kubuntu channel08:04
coreymon77we have told him to stop08:04
coreymon77he wont08:04
Picicoreymon77: call !ops08:04
jdongwhere do his tinyurl's go?08:04
jdongdo I want to know?08:04
coreymon77xxx08:05
Picitubgirl08:05
PiciPlus I accidentally deopped myself in #ubuntu.  Thats why I *headdesk*ed earlier.08:05
coreymon77stdin: thanks08:05
stdinI only knew because I got a highlight when Pici put ops,08:06
coreymon77oky08:06
stdinif someone does that, you can use the command08:06
coreymon77ill do that next tine08:07
PiciYah, thats an emergency08:07
coreymon77time*08:07
stdinplease and thanks :)08:07
ubotuIn ubotu, jpatrick said: kops is Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, jpatrick or Pici08:08
Picistdin: Are you still opped in #ubuntu, can you ban that hostmask? hes in there with a different nick than the one he pasted the link with.08:08
Pici..08:08
jpatrickops, I wasn't on the list08:08
gnomefreakare you an op?08:08
jpatrickyeah08:08
gnomefreakok fixing08:08
PiciI thought there was an ops-#kubuntu factoid.08:08
gnomefreakPici: ther eis08:09
stdinthere is one08:09
jpatrickit's !kops no?08:09
Picistdin: yurimxpx is the nick08:09
gnomefreak!ops-#kubuntu08:09
ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!08:09
Mez!ops-#kubuntu is <sed> /Mez/Mez, jpatrick/08:09
ubotuI'll remember that Mez08:09
Mezgrr08:09
gnomefreakjpatrick: your there08:09
Mez!ops-#kubuntu08:09
ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!08:09
Picitwice now08:09
gnomefreakin #kubuntu if !ops trigger is used you will get pinged08:09
jpatrickright, I used the wrong one08:09
Mez!ops-#kubuntu is <sed> /jpatrick, jpatrick/jpatrick/08:09
stdinhmm, I'm not in there08:09
ubotuI'll remember that Mez08:09
coreymon77whats the matter08:10
gnomefreak!kops has kind of died since we can do per channel factoids08:10
coreymon77is the guy back?08:10
Pici kops is aliased to ops 08:10
stdinPici: yurimxpxman ?08:10
gnomefreakcoreymon77: no08:10
Mezstdin, you're not an op in #kubuntu08:10
gnomefreakMez: he is08:10
stdinMez: yes I am08:10
Picistdin: Hes the guy with that hostmask in #ubuntu08:10
Mezoh yeah, hidden at the top08:10
Mez!ops-#kubuntu is <sed> /Mez/Mez, stdin/08:11
ubotuI'll remember that Mez08:11
stdinI have a highlight on ! ops anyway, so I notice when it's used08:13
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PiciAs do I.08:17
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GaryPici, dare you to mute him for an hour or so :p10:02
LjLstdin: that doesn't exempt you from being listed in !ops. we all hate that, but we still get it :P10:23
stdinLjL: I'll just get 2 pings now :p10:23
LjLstdin: and people will start saying "oooh so you're an op" (no, they never noticed before - really) and bugging you for at least a month.10:24
coreymon77LjL: thats part of the job isnt it? (as far as i can tell)10:24
stdinI'll just set my away message to "/msh LjL  for all your queries" :)10:24
LjLcoreymon77: the annoying part, yeah10:25
stdinerm, /msg10:25
LjLstdin: i'll just set my away message to /kick stdin then10:25
coreymon77LjL: ophood is a double edged sword, you need to deal with the good along with the bad10:25
LjLcoreymon77: yeah, but i'm allowed to whine.10:25
coreymon77LjL: make that wine! :P10:26
LjLno, i prefer native applications10:26
coreymon77lol10:26
LjLalthough konversation is getting annoying i must admit10:26
LjLbut i won't ditch it in favor of mirc, no10:26
coreymon77a bit of linux humour to lighten things up10:26
coreymon77huh?10:26
Gary:-)10:26
coreymon77im using konv on my mac10:26
LjLcoreymon77: and don't you hate it sometimes?10:26
Garyon a mac?10:26
coreymon77and both konv and mirc on my kubuntu box10:26
coreymon77Gary: yes, on a mac10:27
Garycoreymon77, in osx?10:27
mc44ug. You can go play with Gary in the mac corner10:27
ikoniaguys - bad language in ubuntu10:27
LjLmc44: but it's an iMac!10:27
ikoniafuck - tits etc etc10:27
LjLyou can go play too10:27
coreymon77Gary: yes, in osx10:27
LjLgrrrrrrr10:27
ikoniauser niter is using bad language10:27
LjLtmccrary10:27
LjLstdin: i won't say anything. deal with him10:28
LjLi'll just ban him in the end.10:28
LjLi know him.10:28
coreymon77Gary: its called macports + apple's x11,app10:28
LjLstdin: he's insane. tell him plainly that perhaps he's on the wrong person.10:28
ikoniacoreymon77: sorry I keep getting your nick10:28
jdongcoreymon77: haha I use gtkpod on OS X :D10:28
coreymon77LjL: konv on my mac, konv on my kubuntu box and a wined mirc on my kubuntu box for my bot10:29
coreymon77jdong: i have 3 x11.app programs10:29
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coreymon77jdong: konv, gimp and freenx10:29
jdongah :)10:30
ikoniastdin: what the heck is that guy on about?10:30
LjLnooo10:30
LjLstdin, dammit10:30
GaryI find the X11 apps slow10:30
LjLi wanted to *ban* him10:30
stdinLjL: you still can10:30
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coreymon77Gary: dual core? osx 10.4?10:31
LjLstdin: not as long as there's a legitimate doubt that he might simply have confused people10:31
LjLit would be a gratuitous ban10:31
LjLbut, i know he's a troll10:31
Garyyes and yes, and not that slow, just slower10:31
LjLcoreymon77: you use mirc for a *bot*?10:31
stdinLjL: well, I asked them what they were on about, they avoided the question :)10:31
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Garyhow come niter3 did not get a kick?10:32
coreymon77anyways, this is getting offtopic, lets take in into my channel, ##snowbot if we want to continue10:32
LjLtmccrary, hello10:32
tmccraryHi LjL10:32
LjLtmccrary: may i know what brought you to accuse stdin?10:32
LjLi think i might have missed some parts10:32
LjLdid he use bad language?10:32
tmccrarystdin was sending me some pretty graphic and strange messages of a sexual nature10:33
tmccraryI told him to stop and he would not10:33
LjLtmccrary: uhm, that would be bad, are you *very* sure it was stdin?10:33
coreymon77LjL: you coming?10:33
tmccraryyes, positive10:33
LjLcoreymon77: one moment10:33
stdinplease, provide logs10:33
LjLtmccrary: yes, do provide them please10:33
tmccraryhold on, one sec10:33
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LjLtmccrary: if you need to make them up, you could at least try and do it a little more quickly10:35
LjLtmccrary: ok, i see you have trouble with that10:38
LjLso let's take it from another perspective10:38
LjLis there any connection between the fact that you called !language on stdin right after ikonia had called !language on niter3?10:38
LjLbecause it would seem like a strange coincidence to me.10:38
stdinumm, I called !language on niter310:39
LjLyeah, that10:39
stdinand I can provide logs on that ;)10:39
LjLwell, but we have those10:39
LjLon the other hand, we still don't have tmccrary10:39
LjLand if it takes him more than 5 minutes to produce them10:40
LjLi'd have no reason to think he hasn't made them up, anyway10:40
LjLso, since tmccrary has a very long history of repeated trolling10:40
LjL(although, lately, he has seemed to be a good citizen of #ubuntu)10:40
LjLi see no reason why he should stay in the channel and slander people.10:41
Pici%btlogin10:41
mc44LjL: technically, I think it's libel ;)10:42
LjLmc44: i didn't say "libel"? my logs say i said "libel".10:42
LjLtmccrary: anything else we can do to you?10:42
mc44LjL: how odd. Mine say "sausages"10:42
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stdinsnot? :p10:43
LjLdoh10:43
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ikoniadon't kick him yet, I've found the logs10:44
LjL?10:44
ikonia12:03 <LjL> hi ikonia wan't to cyber10:44
ikoniasee I've found them ;)10:44
Pici:p10:44
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ikonia;)10:44
PriceChild*cringes*10:44
ikonialittle be of cheek 10:44
PiciHowdy PriceChild 10:45
Garyno one chats me up like that :'(10:45
ikoniaGary: you're clearly not as pretty as me10:45
PriceChildHey pici :)10:45
LjLGary: niter wasn't kicked simply because one is usually given a warning. tmccrary, on the other hand, was just being a deliberate troll.10:46
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ikoniaboys - you on your own on the automatix thing now11:00
ikoniaI'm backing off11:00
PriceChildthis in -offtopic?11:01
LjLno, in #ubuntu of course.11:01
PriceChildAh..11:02
Garybut automatix is lovely11:03
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Piciaiiieee11:03
PriceChildstdin, have you recently been given access in #ubuntu?11:05
PriceChildOr am I just slow and its always been like that? :)11:05
stdinPriceChild: erm, well hobbsee oped me a while ago11:06
PiciHobbsee opped stdin and I early this morning because no one else was around11:06
stdinand I just haven't deoped11:06
Garyand you are still opped, tsk tsk :p11:06
PiciThe trolls have really been at it today..11:08
PriceChildstdin, ahhhh :)11:08
Amaranth13 days to doomsday11:08
jdongomg #ubuntu flows so fast I don't see how you people can survive giving support this way :)11:09
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stdinheh, that was nearly 10 hours ago now :p11:09
Amaranthjdong: read faster11:09
stdinthat's got to be the longest +o in #ubuntu for a long time11:09
jdongAmaranth: lol11:10
Picijdong: I have all the joins and parts going to another window so its a little more bearable. (although LjL keeps saying its stupid)11:10
Seeker`does anyone actually enjoy being an op in #ubuntu11:10
mc44jdong: just give everyone the same answer11:10
GarySeeker`, I doubt it11:10
Garyit's bad enough in -offtopic11:11
Garyas they go on and on11:11
stdinjust ask hobbsee when she gathers the strength to return11:11
LjLSeeker`: i enjoy a channel that can doesn't go totally astray. ops try to do that. in the short term, no i don't enjoy it very much11:11
jdongmc44: lol I'm gonna go write a sqlite canned response selector for irssi now :D11:11
Garyis she taking a sabbatical ?11:11
PiciWho?11:12
LjLPici: i said it just once. well, make it twice: it's stupid :)11:12
PriceChildPici, it is stupid. :)11:12
stdinGary: probably sleeping11:12
Seeker`Pici: Gary's stupid :P11:12
Seeker`(sorry Gary )11:12
PiciWhich reminds me, I need to finish up writing my join flood detection script.11:12
PriceChildjdong, imagine what it'll be like after gutsy's release :)11:13
Picis/after/on11:13
Seeker`PriceChild: dont you mean the run up to...11:13
Seeker`what was the peak for feisty?11:13
PiciI should just make an alias now for 'No, its not released yet'11:13
Garythe day before was a nightmare11:13
PriceChildSeeker`, over 160011:13
AmaranthPriceChild: Like I said, 13 days to doomsday11:14
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PriceChildSeeker`, and no, i mean after :)11:14
PriceChildAmaranth, ahh i see that now, true :)11:14
LjLi think we should just set +i :)11:14
PiciAnd aferwards it never really went back down.11:14
Seeker`PriceChild: why is it worse after?11:14
PiciWell, I mean to original levels11:14
AmaranthSeeker`: People asking the same question over and over again about something in gutsy11:14
PiciWe'll get some dumb bug that no one noticed, but everone will ask about11:15
PriceChildSeeker`, because people have installed it after seeing that its just been released.11:15
Amaranthand compiz will become an official part of the things people can get help with in #ubuntu11:15
mc44Amaranth: is gusrty grilbon out yet?11:15
Amaranth@lart mc4411:15
PiciAmaranth: Ugh, thats going to kill us11:15
PriceChildoh yeah the "is it out yet?"s11:15
Seeker`hmm11:15
Seeker`"are we there yet?"11:15
AmaranthPici: I don't think I'll be able to keep up, you guys should start playing with it :)11:15
PiciSpeaking of, how are we dealing with Compiz and #ubuntu-effects?11:15
LjLAmaranth: the compiz *from the official repositories11:15
LjLthat is :)11:15
LjLPici: Compiz from repos in #ubuntu, anything else in -effects11:16
LjLthat's how i'd see it11:16
AmaranthPici: #ubuntu-effects is the perfect example of why splitting support out per category is bad11:16
Seeker`my compiz doesn't work at the moment - X throws a fit whenever i try to enable nvidia-glx11:16
Amaranthit's more or less dead, i usually end up telling people to go to #compiz-fusion11:16
PriceChildLjL, I'd prefer _all_ compositing talk, even if its from ubuntu repos in main in -effects... :/11:16
AmaranthPriceChild: doesn't work11:17
PiciAmaranth: Oh, I agree.  But at least with gutsy we'll get some more compiz gurus to offer support in #ubuntu11:17
AmaranthPici: Who says?11:17
PriceChildAmaranth, I know :/11:17
LjLPriceChild, even now we let "Desktop Effects" stay in #ubuntu11:17
PiciAmaranth: I can only hope.11:17
PiciMaybe I'm too optimistic11:17
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AmaranthI think I'm the only 'compiz guru' around :P11:17
LjLgood luck with gutsy then :)11:18
Seeker`can I be the "compiz idiot"?11:18
AmaranthBtw, I _guarantee_ you'll get lots of people complaining because compiz won't start11:18
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LjLAmaranth: i'm not surprised11:18
PiciIMO, and you can lart me for this, but compiz is the easy part, getting the hardware/X part to work is tough.11:18
AmaranthTell those people compiz is not supported on their hardware11:18
PriceChildAmaranth, I assume that's a feature?11:18
PriceChildYeah... and just think those people should be turned to -effects11:18
AmaranthPriceChild: Yeah, we have a driver whitelist, a pciid blacklist, and a whole bunch of feature checks11:19
PiciPriceChild: Thats going to be a large percentage.11:19
LjLso what? better for us.11:19
PriceChildPici, exactly.11:19
mc44Amaranth: is there a list of whats black/whitelisted anywhere?11:20
PiciAmaranth: That would be good to put in a factoid.11:20
Amaranthmc44: rv350, rv450, (and the killer) gma 96511:20
PriceChildPici, I assumed so by his question.... but I don't want to be nasty until I've told him myself.11:20
PiciPriceChild: Okay ;)11:21
AmaranthPeople with an x3000 or x3100 (intel) are probably going to be rabid11:21
PriceChildJust to be safe :)11:21
Amaranth"it's an open source driver! why doesn't it work?!?!?"11:21
PriceChildAmaranth, is that video problems on those?11:21
AmaranthPriceChild: yeah11:21
PriceChildas in video playback...11:21
PriceChildnot *all* video output from it :P11:21
AmaranthIf Composite is in use (means kwin compositing, xcompmgr, etc too) Xv doesn't work unless you use EXA11:22
AmaranthWhich is slow and actually broken due to a patch we have in the X server to work around XAA stupidness11:22
mc44so what if people say I don't care about Xv, you can get past the blacklist?11:22
AmaranthYes11:22
Seeker`Amaranth: What about people with an nvidia 8800?11:22
Amaranthhttp://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/Hardware/Blacklist11:22
mc44ah, nice11:23
AmaranthSeeker`: Install nvidia-glx-new11:23
Seeker`Amaranth: Done that already11:23
AmaranthSeeker`: Cry? :/11:23
AmaranthI dunno, I'm pretty pissed at nvidia11:23
mc44http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/Hardware/Blacklist needs a factoid :)11:23
Amaranth!compiz11:23
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects11:23
Seeker`Amaranth: Done that too11:23
PiciAmaranth: Perhaps we should mirror that on w.u.com for the version of compiz we are shipping11:23
Amaranthtime to change that one :)11:23
PriceChildSeeker`, nvidia-glx-config enable ?11:23
Seeker`PriceChild: When i reboot, X fails in a big way11:24
AmaranthSeeker`: Xorg.0.log and xorg.conf needed11:24
PriceChild8800s aren't working in gutsy? :O11:24
PriceChildSeeker`, what's the error?11:24
Seeker`i get the failsafe reconfigure dialog11:24
ikoniawhat ?11:24
ikoniathey should be11:24
ikoniathe drivers are compatible11:24
PiciSeeker`: on Gutsy?11:25
ikoniaI checked it myself11:25
Seeker`Pici: yes11:27
Seeker`trying to find the error message11:27
ikoniaSeeker`: what type of 8800 ? the only problem I've seen was with a bad over clocked card that was unstable, not technically incompatible11:27
Seeker`XFX 8800 GTS XT 320MB i believe11:28
Seeker`not overclocked it myself11:28
ikoniaHmmm I've seen XFX's working11:28
Seeker`when i boot with the nvidia driver enabled, it just ends up showing me the terminal you get when you press ctrl+alt+F1 three times, then loads the failsafe thing11:29
ikoniawhat does the oxorg log show ?11:29
ikoniawhats the reason for the failure to start11:29
Seeker`gimmie a sec, i'll try reenabling it11:29
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Seeker2just rebooting now11:31
Seeker2no "EE" lines in Xorg.0.log11:33
ikonia?11:34
ikoniawhat about the xgl log11:34
Seeker2ikonia: path?11:34
ikoniasame path11:35
ikoniaxorg.99.log or something like that11:35
Seeker2/var/log/Xorg.9.log?11:37
ikoniathats the ticket11:37
Seeker2hmm11:38
Seeker2grep for "nvidia", got nothing11:38
ikoniaanything else ?11:39
Seeker2grep for "EE", got "Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)11:39
PriceChildthere'll be something wrong before that...11:39
ikoniathats interesting11:39
PriceChilda message about why the nvidia driver failed to load.11:39
ikoniayes, something a bit higher up11:39
ikoniais teh nvidia module loaded ?11:39
Seeker2there are no references to nvidia in the file11:42
ikoniais the nvidia module loaded ?11:43
Seeker2it has 'Loadmodule "nv"' though11:43
ikoniathats not the nvidia module11:43
Seeker2the module is loaded11:43
Seeker2if i do lsmod, i see nvidia11:43
ikoniathats a good start11:43
ikoniacheck your xorg.conf and see what driver it's trying to use, just to be certain11:43
Seeker2it says Driver nvidia in xorg.conf11:44
ikoniaseems reasonable11:45
ikoniastick the xorg and xgl logs in a pastebin then11:45
ikonialets take a look11:45
PriceChildxgl logs?11:46
ikoniabad choice of words11:46
PriceChildxgl?11:47
ikoniaflxgl11:47
ikonianever remember the correct name11:47
ikoniaalways get it confused with the ati drivers11:47
PriceChild? :s11:47
mc44fglrx11:47
ikoniata11:47
ikonianever rmember all the phrases on the desktop effects stuff11:48
ikonianot my bag11:48
Seeker2http://moo.cjo20.net/Xorg.0.log.upload11:49
Seeker2http://moo.cjo20.net/Xorg.9.log.upload11:49
Seeker2http://moo.cjo20.net/xorg.conf.upload11:49
ikoniaunknown chipset11:49
ikoniathats surprising11:49
Seeker2hmm11:51
ikonialooks like it wants to use the vesa driver11:52
PiciWell, thats the failsafe session on .011:52
ikoniabut even thats not launching for him11:52
ikonialooks like it doesn't know about the card11:52
ikoniacomplaining that the nvidia is unknown chipset11:53
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ikoniaI'm surprised it can't see the card11:54
ikoniaor doesn't know about the card I should say 11:54
Seeker2any suggestions?11:57
ikonialooks like  bug in the driver11:58
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ikoniasee if one is already logged ?12:00
Seeker2looking now12:03
Seeker2cant see anything that matches exactly12:07
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PriceChild*didn't touch anything*12:19
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jdongPriceChild: both hands on keyboard now!12:22
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