[12:04] <scguy318> __adac_: pysdm?
[12:05] <bruenig> startxfce4 is a bash wrapper that starts xfce makes sure everything is in place and such
[12:05] <F3000> says that xserver-xorg is not installed....
[12:05] <ISOcrates> hey guys, i have a quick question.  which should i install now, 7.04 or 7.10 beta?  i want the upgrade to gutsy to be easiest.
[12:05] <Meroigo> .... 3D acceleration on my ATI Radeon 8500LE card just stopped working after I had configured X to use two monitors. The monitor things works great, but now my 3D doesn't work.. =/ anyone know what to do?
[12:05] <Pelo> F3000, assuming that xubuntu uses X as a windows manager , then you need to install it ,   sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[12:06] <nickren> Meroigo: can you set up two different sized monitors in a fashion something like extend desktop in windows xp
[12:06] <DShepherd> ISOcrates, maybe 7.10 beta would be 'easiest'
[12:06] <F3000> pelo, I find it odd that it's not installed automatically.
[12:07] <Pelo> F3000,  it should have been
[12:07] <ISOcrates> DShepherd: is it close to being ready?
[12:07] <Pelo> F3000,  try this instead    sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[12:07] <ISOcrates> meaning, will the upgrade be likely to go smoother than it would from 7.04?
[12:07] <Meroigo> nickren, what are you talking about now? :) My extended desktop works as I want it to. But now 3D doesn't work. X crashes when I run google earth, glxgears runs really slow etc...
[12:08] <Pelo> ISOcrates,   it will not be an upgrade frmo the beta to the official, it will just be an update
[12:08] <DShepherd> ISOcrates I think so. seeing your already installing gutsy... it will just be an update
[12:08] <ISOcrates> ok very good.  thanks guys.
[12:08] <F3000> pelo, slightly late. Made that apt-get install xserver-xorg
[12:09] <kdub432> Pelo and F3000, xubuntu uses xfce as its window manager
[12:09] <Pelo> F3000, ifyourinstall got borked you migth hve to instal xubuntu-desktop as well
[12:09] <Pelo> kdub432,   xcfe is the "desktop manager"
[12:09] <ror> two weeks :D
[12:09] <nickren> Meroigo: i was reading something about merged frame buffers aiding with the opengl
[12:10] <F3000> I've done "sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop". I was assuming that it should install xubuntu-desktop.
[12:10] <nickren> its best for ATI cards
[12:10] <nickren> are there network disk of ubuntu
[12:11] <nickren> some of my boxes cd roms are slow
[12:11] <Pelo> f3000 the ?-desktop pacages are metapackages with all the app that are part of the desktop version of the particular ubuntu flavoryou are using ,  needed  dependencies like xserver should also get installed if they are not alreay present
[12:11] <scguy318> !install | nickren
[12:11] <ubotu> nickren: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[12:11] <scguy318> nickren: yes, you can do a PXE install
[12:11] <lamerys_> hello could u help me i have an error saying Grub can\t be installed fatal error when instalations is almost finished
[12:11] <thekidrio> nickren, network disk? you mean a network install?
[12:11] <nickren> yeah that deal
[12:11] <thekidrio> atup
[12:11] <thekidrio> err ayup
[12:11] <thekidrio> that is how i got it running on my sparc5
[12:11] <nickren> k
[12:11] <DShepherd> !install | nickren
[12:11] <ubotu> nickren: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[12:11] <nickren> tanks
[12:12] <thekidrio> http://tinyurl.com/3exghs
[12:12] <thekidrio> thats the baby
[12:12] <Pelo> lamerys_,  check in your bios setting for a safety feature that locks your hdd boot sector to keep  rootkit and virus from writing to it ,   disable it
[12:12] <brandonc503> hey
[12:12] <brandonc503> got question
[12:12] <thekidrio> anyone here use SATAN?
[12:12] <brandonc503> to get apache...
[12:12] <brandonc503> sudo app-get install apache
[12:12] <brandonc503> right?
[12:12] <thekidrio> i am looking for a good network security tool
[12:12] <Pelo> !enter | brandonc503
[12:12] <ubotu> brandonc503: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:13] <thekidrio> brandonc503, apt-get
[12:13] <Pelo> brandonc503, apt-get
[12:13] <brandonc503> ah thanks
[12:13] <thekidrio> hehe pelo
[12:13] <lamerys_> pelo there is no such bios setting feature
[12:13] <thekidrio> jinz
[12:13] <DShepherd> brandonc503, apt-get install apache2 to get apache.. 2 :-)
[12:13] <Pelo> lamerys_, you mean in your comp or in general ?
[12:13] <brandonc503> said: E: Couldn't find package apache
[12:13] <brandonc503> ??
[12:14] <lamerys_> well all i can say that ubuntu has overwritten my vista bootloader and i want vista back
[12:14] <kempo> hat hier jemand ubuntu auf einem thinkad aus der x-reihe laufen?
[12:14] <lamerys_> give my vista back
[12:14] <lamerys_> :)
[12:14] <kst> kempo try english ;-)
[12:14] <kempo> lamerys_: go and buy it for 300 Dollars
[12:14] <Pelo> brandonc503, sudo apt-get install  apache <tab><tab>  select the corret one
[12:14] <thekidrio> brandonc503, fall in love with tab complete for apt-get makes life easier
[12:14] <kempo> anybody got ubuntu running on a thinkpad x60 ?
[12:14] <brandonc503> no password right?
[12:14] <lamerys_> kempo ubuntueven can't play any movie
[12:15] <F3000> I think  that one reason why folks aint using Linux more, is the fact that it's so bloody difficult to install...
[12:15] <thekidrio> or apt-cache find apache i think will tells ya
[12:15] <Pelo> lamerys_,  use the vista cd to repair the vista mbr , don'T ask me how
[12:15] <lamerys_> the codecs doen't work
[12:15] <amonkey> i'm trying to make a symbolic link in my /var/www/ to a hidden folder in my home directory, but when i try to ls or cd the link after i make it i get a permission denied. how can i figure out why i'm getting denied?
[12:15] <kempo> lamerys_: go and install automatix2 !
[12:15] <Migs> hi
[12:15] <kst> lamerys_ not sure if this works but there's commands like "fixmbr" etc. for DOS which afaik restores the bootmanager for win xp etc.
[12:15] <F3000> So far I've tried 3 versions on different PCs, and so far haven't succeeded.
[12:15] <lamerys_> fixmbr yeah?
[12:15] <Pelo> F3000, took me 30 min to install the first time I tried ubuntu and it worked perfectly right from the start ,  you'rs is a special case
[12:15] <kst> maybe google for it, but i think fixmbr works for e.g. winxp ... dont blame me if it doesnt :)
[12:16] <Pelo> F3000,  do you bother to check the system requirements of the distro before you try to intall it ?
[12:16] <lamerys_> it took me two weeks to try to configure that damned ubuntu
[12:16] <thekidrio> F3000, I have always found linux an easier less time consuming then a windows install, except maybe a slipstreamed cd version
[12:16] <lamerys_> and its still faulty
[12:16] <F3000> Pelo, true is, that the CPU range of those 3 or 4 PCs have been 120MHz - 366MHz.
[12:16] <thekidrio> I got ubuntu running on a really old pIII vaio easy peasy
[12:16] <kst> amonkey you probably need root rights to make a symbolic link in the /var dir, so maybe try sudo
[12:16] <thekidrio> i got it running on a sparc5 easy peasy
[12:17] <Pelo> F3000,  maybe you should try an older version of slackware
[12:17] <lamerys_> how do i add decoders ??
[12:17] <Pelo> F3000,  and I wouldn'T expect ay of the latest  snazzy  desktop to work
[12:17] <LjL> !automatix | kempo, lamerys_
[12:17] <Pelo> lamerys_,  decoder ?
[12:17] <lamerys_> i wanna wath a movie
[12:17] <thekidrio> F3000, or minux, or damn small linux
[12:17] <thekidrio> or xubuntu
[12:17] <Pelo> !codecs | lamerys_
[12:17] <kst> !codecs | lamerys_
[12:17] <ubotu> kempo, lamerys_: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[12:17] <ubotu> lamerys_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:17] <kst> :P
[12:17] <F3000> Pelo, which is why I'm trying Xubuntu.
[12:17] <lamerys_> :DD
[12:18] <lamerys_> fuck sake i can't even watch my porn anymore
[12:18] <siriusx> lol
[12:18] <thekidrio> i bet that porn was hosted on a linux box at one point heh
[12:18] <siriusx> them fighting words
[12:18] <Pelo> F3000,   xubuntu needs 128 megs of mem to work properly and i can tell you it is klunky on my aunts  700mhz pc
[12:18] <chris_J> how do i get rhythmbox to play mp3 formats ?
[12:18] <kst> lamerys_ just install the few packages from that website and you're set :) takes like half a minute? :p
[12:19] <Pelo> !mp3 # chris_J
[12:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp3 # chris_j - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:19] <brandonc503> sudo apt-get install apache                  not working.....
[12:19] <thekidrio> pelo, its fine on my pIII 933
[12:19] <brandonc503> .....says  Reading package list.. Done....building dependency tree
[12:19] <gnuskool> Pelo: i rub it on AMD 233, 128MB,
[12:19] <Pelo> chris_J, and  rhythmbox won'T load mp3 automaticaly you need to add them manualy
[12:19] <brandonc503> reading state information.. Don e
[12:19] <chris_J> it says it doesnt have something
[12:19] <brandonc503> then
[12:19] <thekidrio> pelo, i had to kill some of the whacky start up processes but i works good enough for a portable movie player
[12:19] <brandonc503> E: Couldn't find package apache
[12:20] <leladia> pls is there a command to list all hidden files and directories without listing the other none hidden files?
[12:20] <psemag> every time I try to compile any program I have written in C or C++ I get this error /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.1.2/../../../../include/c++/4.1.2/cstdlib:135: error: ::system has not been declared
[12:20] <brandonc503> should i be in ubuntu room?
[12:20] <thekidrio> brandonc503, comment out the CD in your /etc/apt/sources
[12:20] <brandonc503> err in apache room?
[12:20] <Pelo> gnuskool,   my aunt's is a p3 700  64mb ram,  but the prob is probably more the  nvidia card  and the lack of internet, made it impossible for me to get the restricteddrivers working properly
[12:20] <psemag> has any one experienced this
[12:20] <brandonc503> how?
[12:21] <Pelo> later folks,   I need to make dinner
[12:21] <LjL> leladia: ls -a .*
[12:21] <F3000> Thanks for the help, Pelo.
[12:21] <thekidrio> brandonc503, sudo apt-get install apache2
[12:22] <thekidrio> but you can also hit tab after apache to pull up a list
[12:22] <F3000> Okay then... Any suggestions what would be ideal for my 366MHz laptop, that's still on development? I really wouldn't want to use Win98.
[12:22] <Weiss> my wifi connection seems to randomly drop out for about a second every few minutes - but the signal is about 80% the rest of the time - are there any weirdnesses with WPA2 and nm-applet that could cause that? the WPA rekeying interval is set a lot longer than the "jumps"
[12:22] <leladia> LjL: thanks let me check it out
[12:23] <Paddy_EIRE> F3000, damn small linux or fluxbuntu
[12:23] <phaedra> F3000, Go with dsl or dsl-n.
[12:23] <lamerys> ei where to get that automatix
[12:24] <lamerys> or whatever
[12:24] <LjL> lamerys: it's. not. supported.
[12:24] <lamerys> to see my porn?
[12:24] <Paddy_EIRE> lamerys, kep well away from automatix
[12:24] <lamerys> :/
[12:24] <LjL> lamerys: we don't care about your porn, and keep it away from this channel thanks.
[12:24] <LjL> lamerys: just install the codecs as the bot instructed
[12:24] <LjL> !codecs > lamerys    (lamerys, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:24] <lamerys> thnks
[12:25] <ader10> How do I isolate "0" from "11011" using sed?
[12:25] <Paddy_EIRE> lamerys, I prefer the real thing myself :)
[12:25] <Paddy_EIRE> ;)
[12:25] <lamerys> :D
[12:25] <psemag> I cant compile any C or C++  programs, I keep getting this error  /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.1.2/../../../../include/c++/4.1.2/cstdlib:135: error: ::system has not been declared any one know anything about  it
[12:25] <scguy318> psemag: build-essential installed?
[12:25] <pietermansz> das mooi
[12:25] <unicode> !linuxdcpp
[12:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linuxdcpp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:25] <lufis> Anyone know how to disable the ssh service from starting on boot?
[12:26] <psemag> how do I  install build essential
[12:26] <brobostigon> apt
[12:26] <lufis> psemag: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:26] <ader10> How do I isolate "0" from "11011" using sed?
[12:26] <psemag> thank you I will try it out
[12:27] <F3000> Paddy_EIRE, phaedra, > I think I'll give DSL a try.
[12:27] <IceWork> how can i define a static IP if networkmanager is running?
[12:27] <Seveas> ader10, sed -e s/1//g
[12:28] <erUSUL> lufis: sudo update-rc.d -f ssh remove
[12:28] <lufis> erUSUL: thankie :)
[12:28] <dimas_> what software you recommend to download iso?
[12:28] <erUSUL> lufis: no probelm
[12:28] <ader10> Seveas: thanks, what if it was "11[02] 11"
[12:29] <kondor101> for writting a dvd .iso image, I currently use K3b, having some problems with a dvd so am trying gnomebaker, any recomendations on any others?
[12:29] <lufis> Dirty boys...
[12:29] <Paddy_EIRE> F3000, consider fluxbuntu aswell :D
[12:29] <erUSUL> dimas_: torrent if aviable
[12:29] <lufis> kondor101: i think they both use the same backend anyway, probably wouldn't do any good
[12:29] <dimas_> is for a friend that wants to switch to ubuntu;)
[12:29] <kondor101> :(
[12:29] <Seveas> ader10, sed -e s/[^0] //g
[12:30] <Seveas> that deletes everything that's not a 0
[12:30] <thekidrio> dimas, to burn and iso with windows i use imgburn
[12:30] <lufis> kondor101: if you're on debian/ubuntu you might try compiling and installing the latest "Wodim" package
[12:30] <scguy318> kondor101: cmd-line cdrecord? :P
[12:30] <dimas_> erUSUL would you give me a web address he can download it?
[12:30] <brandonc503> what is the "universe
[12:30] <brandonc503> component?
[12:30] <kondor101> lufis, will look for a howto, thanks
[12:30] <Paddy_EIRE> dimas_, google :P
[12:30] <scguy318> dimas_: whatever works :)
[12:30] <lufis> kondor101: you sure it's the software/
[12:30] <Seveas> !universe | brandonc503
[12:30] <ubotu> brandonc503: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[12:30] <erUSUL> dimas_: what iso an ubuntu iso?
[12:31] <kondor101> lufis, i will have to chat /msg as it is probably outside the bounds of allowable chat.
[12:31] <cdm10> Is there any software that will allow me to see what button on my mouse is what number button?
[12:31] <lufis> ok
[12:31] <F3000> Paddy_EIRE, where I get info about it? It's official page is "under migration". :/
[12:31] <ader10> Seveas: How about deleting everything before the [ and after the ] ?
[12:31] <dimas_> erUSUL he is downloading and said the cd is no bootable i guess he need an special software but i dont remember what i used when i did it
[12:31] <Paddy_EIRE> Seveas, Have you updated the documentation on how to use your repo yet?
[12:32] <thekidrio> dimas_, is he on windows? then get imgburn to burn an iso to the cd so its bootable
[12:32] <scguy318> dimas_: you have to burn as an image
[12:32] <thekidrio> imgburn is free and VERY easy
[12:32] <dimas_> thhe kidrio yes
[12:32] <erUSUL> dimas_: maybe the problem is with burning the iso?
[12:32] <thekidrio> dimas_, http://www.imgburn.com/
[12:32] <cdm10> thekidrio: I've never tried Imgburn, but the Ubuntu wiki recommends InfraBurner, and I find it very capable. (cc dimas_)
[12:33] <dimas_> erUSUL yes
[12:33] <cdm10> Although I'm sure imgburner works just as well.
[12:33] <thekidrio> cdm10, yeah that one works just find too hehe
[12:33] <F3000> Paddy_EIRE or phaedra, could you help with this one? http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/damnsmall/current/
[12:33] <erUSUL> !iso | dimas_
[12:33] <ubotu> dimas_: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[12:33] <erUSUL> dimas_: make sure he makees de md5 comprobation
[12:33] <erUSUL> !burning > dimas_
[12:34] <Paddy_EIRE> F3000, current.iso
[12:34] <erUSUL> !md5 > dimas_
[12:34] <john_> df97c81fd31eda91d9eb231f5b073ef3
[12:34] <Paddy_EIRE> http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/damnsmall/current/current.iso F3000
[12:34] <F3000> Thanks. :)
[12:34] <Seveas> ader10, echo 111[101] 11 | sed -e 's/.*\[\([^] ] *\)\] .*/\1/g'
[12:34] <dimas_> thank you every one
[12:36] <erUSUL> dimas_: no problem
[12:37] <F3000> Paddy_EIRE, can you give short example what differences there are between DSL and Ubuntu? Meaning those that are *seen*.
[12:38] <lamerys_> where to get skype for linux?
[12:38] <scguy318> F3000: probably a seriously minimalist window manager, seriously low disk consumption, and, well, I guess you could see for yourself ;)
[12:38] <scguy318> !skype
[12:38] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[12:38] <kitche> lamerys_: from skype site most likely
[12:39] <PointyThingsHurt> i love skype
[12:39] <scguy318> the call quality kinda sucks tho :P
[12:39] <scguy318> but the conveinence is cool
[12:39] <unagi> anyone here use screenlets?
[12:40] <Draggin> Hi hi! Anyone an expert on media-stuff in Linux?
[12:40] <NessieLiberation> !anyone | Draggin
[12:40] <ubotu> Draggin: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:40] <NessieLiberation> Draggin: just ask your question, and we'll see who knows
[12:40] <Draggin> Hehe
[12:40] <unagi> !screenlets
[12:40] <ubotu> Screenlets are little widgets for your !desktop. Note you must have !Compiz Fusion, !Beryl, xcompmgr, or KWin to run them. You can get them at http://www.screenlets.org/
[12:40] <Paddy_EIRE> F3000, dsl is a completely different distro
[12:40] <TriGz> Hihi^^
[12:41] <Paddy_EIRE> F3000, the differences are quite big
[12:41] <TriGz> could anyone help me with a rather embarasing problem? (I'd rather not say it infront of 1123 people ;P)
[12:41] <Paddy_EIRE> F3000, although both ubuntu and dsl are based on debain..
[12:41] <Draggin> Well, NessieLiberation - I'm really struggling to get normal DVDs to play in Ubuntu.  I've tried Totem and after much struggling, I've now installed VLC, but I still can't seem to play a DVD
[12:41] <cdm10> TriGz: Does it have to do with clearing nasty stuff from your web history?
[12:41] <scguy318> most of that 1123 people are probably afk, and probably wouldn't make fun of ya
[12:41] <TriGz> no cdm10, worse! :(
[12:41] <agroker> TriGz, 1125
[12:42] <TriGz> I forgot my password >.<. I've been in the army for the past 12 weeks and had no PC there.
[12:42] <cdm10> TriGz: You could always of course have logged on with a different nick... but now, you can't, because we all know your hostmask. BWA HAHA HA HA!
[12:42] <TriGz> Any idea's how i can get it back? ^^
[12:42] <D4N`> Hi
[12:42] <TriGz> cmd10: That's evil!
[12:42] <cdm10> TriGz: Hmm, sorry, I have NO idea.
[12:42] <TriGz> :(
[12:43] <TriGz> That's for making fun of me >:[
[12:43] <scguy318> TriGz: Ubuntu user account pass?
[12:43] <cdm10> TriGz: There may be a way to set your password to a different one using a LIveCD, but I don't know how you'd do that.
[12:43] <thekidrio> Drevor?
[12:43] <TriGz> yes scguy318.
[12:43] <Niriven> Whats the ubuntu channel for unrleased versions?
[12:43] <thekidrio> that is my anarchy online name haha
[12:43] <scguy318> TriGz: just go to recovery mode, then just do passwd youruseraccountname
[12:43] <scguy318> TriGz: that will let you reset it
[12:43] <D4N`> out of interest
[12:43] <cdm10> TriGz: But you're not going to be able to recover your passweord.
[12:43] <NessieLiberation> Draggin: to play normal dvds, you shouldnt ask for a multimedia expert - asking for a regular helper would be better, if you ask for an expert, regular people with answers wont bother to tell you because it looks as though you need an expert
[12:43] <cdm10> scguy318: damn, I should have thought about that!
[12:43] <cdm10> TriGz: well, looks like you've got your answer.
[12:43] <TriGz> so erm.
[12:43] <tux__fl> i have 7.04 liveCD and my nic card pulled the wrong IP address ( 192.168.15.2)  my linksys router is giving out 10.11.15.x
[12:43] <lamerys_> if i will ever get my vista back, i will never install that ubuntu again
[12:43] <cdm10> Niriven: #ubuntu+1
[12:44] <TriGz> Recovery mode - passwd TriGz (for argument sake)
[12:44] <TriGz> ?
[12:44] <NessieLiberation> !dvd | Draggin
[12:44] <ubotu> Draggin: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[12:44] <scguy318> tux____fl: restart the networking service? sudo /etc/init.d/network restart
[12:44] <cdm10> TriGz: Do you know how to get into recovery mode?
[12:44] <scguy318> TriGz: thats the essence
[12:44] <TriGz> yea. just hit Ubuntu: Recovery mode on grub lol
[12:44] <cdm10> yup
[12:44] <TriGz> ^^
[12:44] <agroker> lamerys, I said that quite a few times, and I'm still under Ubuntu ;-)
[12:44] <Draggin> Thanks Nessieliberation, I'll check it out
[12:45] <motanel> hi
[12:45] <TriGz> Will give it a shot in a second ;o
[12:45] <motanel> what is the default irc client in ubuntu ?
[12:45] <bruenig> gaim I guess
[12:45] <tux__fl> ok scguy..working on it
[12:45] <TriGz> Need to transfer all my porn from my linux HD to my windows one ;o
[12:45] <scguy318> motanel: Gaim is kinda sucky for IRC tho
[12:45] <motanel> bruenig: you're right, my mistake. what's the second choice after that ?
[12:45] <cliang> xchat is ok
[12:45] <cafuego> motanel: gaim or pidgin, bu they'r not that good at doing irc.
[12:45] <tux__fl> scguy...same ip after restart
[12:45] <motanel> xchat ! thanks
[12:45] <bruenig> motanel, there isn't any installed
[12:46] <scguy318> tux__fl: you sure your router is doling out IPs on the 10.0.0.0/24?
[12:46] <bruenig> !info irssi
[12:46] <ubotu> irssi: terminal based IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.10-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1010 kB, installed size 2788 kB
[12:46] <motanel> i was looking for xchat :)
[12:46] <bulmer> tux__fl: do you have static ip address assigned?
[12:46] <tux__fl> my win box juust was assigned 10.11.15.100
[12:46] <motanel> isn't irssi text mode ?
[12:46] <scguy318> !ntfs-3g | TriGz
[12:46] <ubotu> TriGz: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[12:46] <scguy318> TrigZ: for r/w access to your Windows NTFS partition
[12:46] <TriGz> Lol.
[12:46] <tux__fl> nope dhcp.. done this on fiesty and 7.10 too
[12:46] <TriGz> I'd rather just put it on dvd >:] 
[12:47] <TriGz> that way
[12:47] <scguy318> tux___fl: but are you sure your router isn't on the range 192.0.0.0/24?
[12:47] <TriGz> i have a backup copy :D
[12:47] <scguy318> tux___fl: but are you sure your router isn't on the range 192.168.0.0/16?
[12:47] <scguy318> 8
[12:47] <scguy318> or w/e
[12:47] <garette> Hi all can somebody help me in using kbfx!!
[12:47] <garette> !kbfx
[12:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kbfx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:47] <scguy318> TriGz: or view it on your offtime :P
[12:47] <NessieLiberation> !info kbfx
[12:47] <ubotu> kbfx: an alternative to K-Menu for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.9.2~rc4-1 (feisty), package size 1268 kB, installed size 3748 kB
[12:47] <psemag> I am still getting this error  when I try to compile a  C  or  C++  program /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.1.2/../../../../include/c++/4.1.2/cstdlib:135: error: ::system has not been declared any one something about it
[12:47] <NessieLiberation> garette: i would guess that not many people have used it much
[12:47] <tux__fl> well i just release my win box and it was assigned 10.11.15.1 and my router is configured for that.
[12:47] <garette> NessieLiberation: Can you help me!!
[12:47] <hinogii> what browser would be advised for use in ubuntu, ff or opera or is it just a matter of taste?
[12:48] <tux__fl> i know...hard to believe
[12:48] <scguy318> psemag: what app are you trying to compile
[12:48] <hinogii> or are there grave speed differences
[12:48] <NessieLiberation> hinogii: i use opera and galeon, many use firefox, some use others
[12:48] <bulmer> tux__fl: paste in pastebin  your  /etc/network/interfaces
[12:48] <cafuego> That ought not happen on C, C++ perhaps... but then, well..
[12:48] <tux__fl> is fiesty running dhcp server maybe?
[12:48] <cdm10> hinogii: It's a matter of preference. However, Firefox comes with Ubuntu, so you don't have to install it.
[12:48] <scguy318> tux___fl: probably not
[12:48] <psemag> a C++ program that I wrote
[12:48] <dimas_> i am using virtualbox and when i transmitting video from my camera stops within few seconds, i did turn off firewall already...any idea?
[12:48] <tux__fl> 7.04 and 7.10  you would think its was the router, I know
[12:49] <tux__fl> let me cycle the power on the linksys. be back later SC
[12:49] <garette> NessieLiberation: kbfx is a big sub category under the kde-look dot org
[12:49] <cafuego> psemag: offhand, maybe you use ::system anywhere in the code where you should be using system:: instead?
[12:49] <Nikolas1994> hello
[12:49] <TriGz> Second question: Anyone good with internet related problems! - My Linksys WAG54G no-longer connects to the internet, although showing all lights are green, yet my netgear DM602 works, but VERY shit, if you get me. rather slow and sluggish :(
[12:49] <lavender_dream> NessieLiberation: Have you had any trouble using Flash 9 (installed system wide) and Opera while tab-browsing or scrolling pages really fast? The sound in Flash skips and is very buggy with Opera for some reason for me.
[12:49] <scguy318> psemag: mm dunno, maybe a typo in your app?
[12:50] <scguy318> hai
[12:50] <NessieLiberation> lavender_dream: a couple of problems, but i never really used opera with feisty - have only switched on gutsy
[12:50] <NessieLiberation> garette: try kubuntu instead then
[12:50] <garette> scguy318: Hey you know that kbfx thingy?
[12:50] <psemag> it wont compile even simple hello program both in C and C++
[12:50] <Nikolas1994> Can i have some help please?
[12:50] <scguy318> !ask
[12:50] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:50] <NessieLiberation> Nikolas1994: ask what you want to ask
[12:50] <damjan_> Hi my gdm has following messages when i tried to reinstall it: "invoke-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed.".   How can I fix the gdm
[12:50] <bulmer> TriGz: whats the wag54g is that your AP or your nic card?
[12:51] <scguy318> garette: i dont, but what about?
[12:51] <garette> NessieLiberation: what that in there that is not in sudo apt-get install kde ?
[12:51] <TriGz> bulmer - it's a ADSL gateway.
[12:51] <garette> !info kbfx | scguy318
[12:51] <dimas_> !ask
[12:51] <ubotu> scguy318: kbfx: an alternative to K-Menu for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.9.2~rc4-1 (feisty), package size 1268 kB, installed size 3748 kB
[12:51] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:51] <scguy318> garette: what about it?
[12:51] <NessieLiberation> garette: if it's an alternative to k menu, then it's KDE
[12:51] <lavender_dream> NessieLiberation: Okay, I think it's a known bug, will have to try it out again when Gutsy final is released this month. Thanks for the response.
[12:51] <scguy318> garette: never used before since I'm a GNOME user, but what about it
[12:51] <Nikolas1994> Look,i've downloaded a game called "Tibia".It was a file called tibia800.tgz I placed it to my home/nikolas/documents directory.I extracted and it and i couldn't run the binary,any idea why?
[12:52] <bulmer> TriGz: does it have an ethernet lan port you can connect it wired?
[12:52] <Draggin> Grrr... Still no luck...
[12:52] <garette> scguy318, its an alternate kde menu
[12:52] <NessieLiberation> garette: sure some people might have, but you'll probably get more luck in #kubuntu
[12:52] <scguy318> Nikolas1994: chmod +x?
[12:52] <Draggin> G'bye for now
[12:52] <garette> NessieLiberation: ok will try
[12:52] <scguy318> garette: yeah, I figured, but what did you want to know about it?
[12:52] <damjan_> Hi my gdm has following messages when i tried to reinstall it: "invoke-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed.".   How can I fix the gdm
[12:52] <dimas_> !info kbfx
[12:52] <ubotu> kbfx: an alternative to K-Menu for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.9.2~rc4-1 (feisty), package size 1268 kB, installed size 3748 kB
[12:52] <garette> scguy318, like I want guys hwo already used that :)
[12:52] <NessieLiberation> garette: it would also help if you ask your question rather than just talking about it
[12:52] <Pelo> Nikolas1994,   open terminal  ,  cd to the extracted folder  then run  sudo chmod 777  filename.bin   then   sudo ./filename.bin
[12:52] <agroker> TriGz, I used to reset mine to factory settings eventually I switched to dlink and have not troubles since
[12:52] <scguy318> garette: ah, well, you'll have to count me :P
[12:52] <scguy318> *count me out
[12:53] <scguy318> Pelo: why sudo?
[12:53] <scguy318> Pelo: the files are probably owned by his account
[12:53] <garette> :)
[12:53] <NessieLiberation> garette: you havent actually stated your problem, so how will anyone know if they can help you
[12:53] <TriGz> bulmer - It was all connected correctly, all lights showed green. but i couldnt access any webpages or ping anything from my Desktop
[12:53] <scguy318> Pelo: and there's no reason to run the game as root
[12:53] <NessieLiberation> garette: it's like a giant !ask :P
[12:53] <TriGz> bulmer - However i could ping from the router itself?
[12:53] <Pelo> scguy318,  it's an installer it will need permissions to install files
[12:53] <unagi> anyone here use maya?
[12:53] <damjan_> I
[12:53] <ader10> How do I remove a period at the end of a line using sed?
[12:53] <damjan_> use too
[12:53] <garette>  NessieLiberation: :P
[12:53] <thekidrio> unagi, hahah i just saw a creepy pic of you
[12:53] <ader10> unagi: Blender is a nice alternative to maya
[12:53] <cdm10> ader10: \.$ would be the regexp.
[12:53] <dimas_> !ask
[12:53] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:54] <scguy318> Pelo: ah
[12:54] <leladia> how do i display only hidden files in my directory?
[12:54] <NessieLiberation> ader10: sed /\.$//
[12:54] <cafuego> ader10: "s/\.$//"
[12:54] <Pelo> ader10, why donT' you just edit the files manualy ? do you ahve that many of them ?
[12:54] <unagi> creepy pic of me thekidrio?
[12:54] <cdm10> ader10: so, probably, sed 's/\.$//
[12:54] <bulmer> TriGz: whats the ip assigned to your desktop? correct address range the router supposed to dole out? whats the route -ran result?
[12:54] <dimas_> sorry guys i am just testing
[12:54] <cdm10> ader10: Aha, I was beaten to it :)
[12:54] <NessieLiberation> ader10: or rather what he said
[12:54] <Pelo> leladia, ctrl+h
[12:54] <thekidrio> unagi, well of eels http://pics.dmm.co.jp/digital/video/gen00012/gen00012pl.jpg
[12:54] <thekidrio> NOT WORK SAFE
[12:54] <TriGz> Bulmer - I have no idea what you just ment. lol
[12:54] <cdm10> NessieLiberation: I think we said the same thing...
[12:54] <unagi> ader10: yea.....blender is weird to me at the moment =/
[12:54] <Nikolas1994> sudo: unable to execute ./Tibia: No such file or directory
[12:54] <NessieLiberation> thekidrio: please dont spam here
[12:54] <Pelo> !offtopic | thekidrio
[12:54] <ubotu> thekidrio: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:54] <unagi> the camera view is weird
[12:54] <bulmer> TriGz: whats the ip assigned to your desktop? correct address range the router supposed to dole out?
[12:54] <thekidrio> NessieLiberation, not spam so shaddup
[12:54] <leladia> pls, how do i display only hidden files in my directory?
[12:54] <garette>  NessieLiberation: no one there either helped me
[12:54] <Pelo> leladia, ctrl+h
[12:54] <scguy318> Nikolas1994: did you cd to where you extracted?
[12:54] <damjan_> help my gdm display, please
[12:55] <NessieLiberation> thekidrio: ESPECIALLY NOTHING NSFW
[12:55] <psemag> any one know about this error msg /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.1.2/../../../../include/c++/4.1.2/cstdlib:135: error: ::system has not been declared
[12:55] <Nikolas1994> yes
[12:55] <Nikolas1994> i did
[12:55] <TriGz> Bulmer - You just c&p'd. I mean i didnt understand :P
[12:55] <scguy318> Nikolas1994: and what's in the folder?
[12:55] <thekidrio> ok that i will cop to, i should /msg'd him sorry about that
[12:55] <leladia> Pelo: from the command line and only hidden files
[12:55] <Nikolas1994> Some files?
[12:55] <Pelo> leladia, man ls
[12:55] <TriGz> thekidrio - That's sexytime.
[12:55] <Nikolas1994> Name them?
[12:55] <dimas_> !offtopic|pelo
[12:55] <ubotu> pelo: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:55] <garette>  NessieLiberation:what one earth there is no one who uses that damn cool menu instead kde default menu which looks so weird!!c :-X
[12:55] <bulmer> TriGz: whats the ip assigned to your desktop? does your desktop have an ip address?
[12:55] <thekidrio> TriGz, heh
[12:55] <Pelo> dimas_, what ?
[12:55] <scguy318> thekidrio: don't post that, thats waaaaaay nsfw
[12:55] <TriGz> Erm. I'm guessing you mean 192.168.1.1?
[12:55] <Pici> !msgthebot | dimas_
[12:55] <ubotu> dimas_: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[12:55] <scguy318> Nikolas1994: pastebin the ls listing
[12:56] <dimas_> pelo i just find out what you guys do
[12:56] <damjan_> what channel is for gnome
[12:56] <bulmer> TriGz: we can both guess, you have to know, or we may be guessing wrong
[12:56] <scguy318> damjan_: #gnome
[12:56] <Nikolas1994> Patch  Showerror  Tibia  Tibia.dat  Tibia.pic  Tibia.spr  Tibia.xpm
[12:56] <damjan_> thanks
[12:56] <Pici> dimas_: Read what ubotu just told you please.
[12:56] <leladia> pls, how do i display only hidden files in my directory?
[12:56] <scguy318> Nikolas1994: chmod +x Tibia?
[12:56] <Pelo> leladia, man ls
[12:56] <Pici> leladia: ls -a
[12:56] <dimas_> pici sorry brother
[12:56] <NessieLiberation> garette: well, i dont use it because a) i dont use kde and b) i dont use gnome either :P... but just ask your question ;) a lot of people know stuff about stuff they dont regularly use
[12:56] <TriGz> bulmer - 192.168.1.1 is what i use to access my router admin page thingymabob. mi not using the linksys atm though. it'doesnt work. I'm using the netgear one ;o
[12:56] <thekidrio> pelo heh
[12:56] <cdm10> dimas_: That's okay, but in the future, test it only by /msg-ing it... the channel is already busy enough :)
[12:57] <Nikolas1994> done,now?
[12:57] <scguy318> Nikolas1994: ./Tibia
[12:57] <leladia> Pici: pls i don't want to display other files, just the dot files
[12:57] <garette> NessieLiberation:The problem is I know nothing but I still want to use it :)
[12:57] <Nikolas1994> bash: ./Tibia: Permission denied
[12:57] <scguy318> Nikolas1994: who owns the file? root?
[12:57] <Nikolas1994> myself?
[12:57] <Pelo> leladia, read the man page for ls all the way throught
[12:57] <dimas_> cdm10 is there any like this for spanish?...i would like to star helping in sppanish
[12:57] <NessieLiberation> garette: then install it and try :P and try looking at the man page
[12:57] <Nikolas1994> i'm newb in ubuntu
[12:57] <scguy318> Nikolas1994: pastebin the contents of ls -al
[12:57] <scguy318> !pastebin | Nikolas1994
[12:57] <ubotu> Nikolas1994: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:58] <cdm10> !sp | dimas_
[12:58] <Pelo> Nikolas1994,  did you read and do what I told you earleir ?
[12:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:58] <cdm10> dimas_: sorry 'bout that
[12:58] <leladia>  Pelo: i would not have asked if i didn't or haven't done that
[12:58] <cdm10> !es > dimas_
[12:58] <edd> can someone help me with ultimate ubuntu's desktop effects...for some reason I keep getting the "The Composite Extension is not available" message
[12:58] <leladia> and i don't think anyone will be here asking any question if the man was so easy to understand
[12:58] <cafuego> leladia:  find . -maxdepth 1 -type f -name ".[0-Z] *"
[12:59] <cdm10> edd: Ubuntu Ultimate is not supported here.
[12:59] <Pelo> leladia,  the point being that if it can be done, it will ge in there , do you know you can use more then one option in a command ?   like  the one for hidden files and the a filter   like .* maybe
[12:59] <Nikolas1994> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39597/
[12:59] <dimas_> cdm10 i dont need help in spanish i just would like to help in spanish...
[12:59] <Nikolas1994> Yes Pelo i did
[12:59] <ader10> How do I integrate s/\.$// with s/^.*\: //
[12:59] <Pelo> Nikolas1994,  and it didn'T help ? were you able to install ?
[12:59] <cafuego> leladia: If you need dotdirs too, drop the '-type f' parameter.
[01:00] <cdm10> dimas_: I know, but that should have sent you the address of the spanish channel (#ubuntu-es), so that's where you should go to help.
[01:00] <cajun> i keep getting the following output when I launch kate from the terminal as long as kate is running http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39596/
[01:00] <cajun> any ideas on how to fix this?
[01:00] <NessieLiberation> ader10: when you say "integrate" what do you mean?
[01:00] <leladia> cafuego: thanks
[01:00] <cdm10> ader10: You could just pipe one to the other... there's probably a better way to do it, but that's the only way I know.
[01:00] <Nikolas1994> Pelo,no i can't even run it
[01:00] <dimas_> cdm10 i know where it is i am here just getting help;)
[01:00] <Pici> ader10: FYI, there is a #bash channel just for shell scripting issues.
[01:00] <ader10> NessieLiberation: put it all in one line :)
[01:00] <Soskel> hi
[01:00] <cajun> now it's still doing it eventhough I don't have kate running
[01:01] <damjan_> any body know some gdm fixing links?
[01:01] <Pelo> Nikolas1994,     when you do   sudo ./filename.bin     notice the dot before the /
[01:01] <scguy318> Nikolas1994: i guess chmod 777 Tibia?
[01:01] <cdm10> damjan_: What's wrong with your GDM?
[01:01] <Pici> dimas_: #ubuntu-es is just like #ubuntu but in spanish.
[01:01] <edd> cdm10: where should I go if I need help with it then...the ubuntu forums?
[01:01] <NessieLiberation> ader10: to match both or or?
[01:01] <Soskel> how do I get web pages to load correctly in ubuntu? they just load weird now....
[01:01] <damjan_> i"invoke-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed
[01:01] <Pelo> gtg, sorry
[01:01] <Nikolas1994> bash: ./Tibia.bin: No such file or directory
[01:01] <dimas_> Pici i toght they speak greek there
[01:01] <Pelo> Nikolas1994,  did you cd to the folder first ?
[01:01] <cafuego> damjan_: Were you logged in when it aid that?
[01:01] <Nikolas1994> yes
[01:02] <Pici> dimas_: No need to be sarcastic.
[01:02] <cafuego> damjan_: .. in X, that is?
[01:02] <ader10> NessieLiberation: ?
[01:02] <F3000> Okay... Thanks folks, especially Pelo, romulo, bruenig, kdub432, thekidrio, Paddy_EIRE and scguy318.
[01:02] <ader10> NessieLiberation: I just mean to merge both into one command
[01:02] <Pelo> Nikolas1994, gimme a link to the tar.gz
[01:02] <dimas_> Pici relax could you
[01:02] <cdm10> edd: Nope, not there either. Ubuntu Ultimate is NOT an official Ubuntu release.
[01:02] <NessieLiberation> ader10: right...
[01:02] <damjan_> my window manager failed, so I remove my nvidia acc.
[01:02] <damjan_> then I restart X
[01:02] <scguy318> Nikolas1994: client starts fine for me, and what's your current directory?
[01:02] <Nikolas1994> http://download.tibia.com/tibia800.tgz
[01:02] <edd> cdm10: i know its not official but its still being used by a large range of users isn't it?
[01:02] <F3000> Have a good night/day everyone. I'm off to explore DSL.
[01:03] <damjan_> then the busy icon and nothing, blank screen
[01:03] <Pelo> Nikolas1994,  gimme a mnute to dl and check
[01:03] <Nikolas1994> ok
[01:03] <cdm10> edd: That doesn't mean it's supported here... as far as this channel is concerned, Ubuntu Ultimate Edition is offtopic.
[01:03] <Nikolas1994> scguy318 the tibian client?
[01:03] <scguy318> Pelo: seems to work for me, apart from GLX failure since my crappy laptop ATI sucks
[01:03] <damjan_> cafuego, then I started kdm
[01:03] <scguy318> Nikolas1994: yep
[01:03] <Fumoh> Yo.
[01:03] <Pici> !enter
[01:03] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:03] <edd> cdm10: ok then...thats fair enough
[01:03] <Nikolas1994> tell me step by step what you did?
[01:03] <cdm10> edd: You could try the forums, though.
[01:03] <Fumoh> So apparantly, the live cd is prompting me for a username and password?
[01:03] <scguy318> Nikolas1994: I extracted the archive to a folder, cded to the folder, ./Tibia
[01:03] <Fumoh> anyone know what I can log in with?
[01:03] <scguy318> Nikolas1994: thats it, did you extract as root or something?
[01:04] <Pelo> scguy318, he's probably just doint something wrong like a typoe,  I'll just feed him the correct lines
[01:04] <damjan_> cafuego, what to do?
[01:04] <scguy318> Pelo: mm k
[01:04] <Nikolas1994> i just right click it and clicked extract nothing else
[01:04] <Soskel> how do I get web pages to load correctly in ubuntu? they just load weird now....
[01:04] <NessieLiberation> Fumoh: i think "ubuntu" and nothing, but im not sure
[01:04] <scguy318> Nikolas1994: can you pastebin the output of ls -al?
[01:04] <cdm10> edd: Or you could try their forums, if they have them. The thing is, I'd probably help you if your error was more generic... however, I know that UUE makes modifications to the system that seems to have failed.
[01:04] <scguy318> !pastebin | Nikolas1994
[01:04] <ubotu> Nikolas1994: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:04] <edd> cdm10: i did, it's just hard to have it answered in a timely fashion with so many posts going on....plus it's easier to figure out a problem with someone p2p
[01:04] <Nikolas1994> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39597/
[01:04] <Nikolas1994> here
[01:04] <Pelo> Nikolas1994,  hold on , hlep it on it's way
[01:04] <cdm10> edd: Well, this just isn't the place to do it... sorry.
[01:04] <Fumoh> Nessie:  Negative, already tried it :\
[01:05] <NessieLiberation> Fumoh: dunno then
[01:05] <cafuego> damjan_: if you removed nvidia, login to the console, then 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' to reconfigure the X config file.
[01:05] <Lars_G> Heeeelp :(
[01:05] <scguy318> Nikolas1994: chmod +x Tibia
[01:05] <Fumoh> It's real weird... never did this on my VM
[01:05] <scguy318> Nikolas1994: doesnt look like you've done that yet
[01:05] <edd> cdm10: do you know how to fix that error generically? i noticed its basically the same system as 7.04+ except the side note that it has a lot pre installed
[01:05] <damjan_> cafuego, I done it
[01:05] <cdm10> cafuego: what about -phigh? That way it'll set it up automatically...
[01:05] <Lars_G> I've installed a feisty using debootstrap, but now while configuring something VERY strange is happening.
[01:05] <Nikolas1994> done
[01:05] <scguy318> Nikolas1994: then ./Tibia, that's it
[01:05] <damjan_> cafuego, still not functioning
[01:05] <Nikolas1994> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39597/
[01:05] <cdm10> edd: A lot preinstalled = very different from Ubuntu, considering it installs unsupported software like Automatix by default.
[01:05] <ech0dish> refurbished ubuntu desktops, feisty fawn. http://stores.ebay.com/Houston-CompCycle
[01:05] <Lars_G> I can't connect to any open ports on the machine, from the machine itself, or ping any interface's ip from the machine
[01:05] <Nikolas1994> bash: ./Tibia: Permission denied
[01:06] <cdm10> edd: And I'm not sure how to solve your error.
[01:06] <Nikolas1994> wrong copy before sorry
[01:06] <Fumoh> Is there a way to drop into a different runlevel when the live cd is booting?
[01:06] <Tech-Mike> sup peeps need help with wpa_supplicant
[01:06] <Lars_G> but I can ping external ips, and from anothjer machine I can ping the local addresses, and connect to the open ports in here.....
[01:06] <Lars_G> any tips about this please? it's so odd
[01:06] <cdm10> Tech-Mike: is NetworkManager not handling WPA for you?
[01:06] <Tech-Mike> no
[01:06] <thesaint4444> hi guys, can anyone tell me what is wrong with this fstab entry '  /dev/hdb1      /data1          ext3    defaults        1       2'  ? it stopped my machine booting up normally...
[01:06] <Pelo> Nikolas1994,  the good news is you donT' need to instal it ,  the bad news I can'T get it to work eitehr  I get glx errors to
[01:06] <scguy318> Pelo: me too haha weird
[01:06] <cdm10> Tech-Mike: Okay, just checking. I'm not sure how to help you, though, sorry.
[01:06] <edd> what is automatix exactly....im going through everything and removing what I don't want....do you know a distro of ubuntu that has the cool cube effects and basically just wine, and firefox preinstalled
[01:06] <Pelo> Nikolas1994,  check the site whre you got it for instrucitions
[01:06] <scguy318> Pelo: mebbe its our cards
[01:07] <scguy318> !automatix | edd
[01:07] <ubotu> edd: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[01:07] <Nikolas1994> Pelo,no instructions
[01:07] <Pelo> scguy318,  not realy for me,  I donT' have xgl installed,
[01:07] <cdm10> edd: the standard one does.
[01:07] <Pelo> Nikolas1994,  find another game
[01:07] <Nikolas1994> Pelo,tell me how you made it
[01:07] <NessieLiberation> edd: basically automatix is something you DO NOT WANT TO USE EVER
[01:07] <cafuego> cdm10: I'v never had luck with allowing xcfg to try and be clever on its own.
[01:07] <dn4> how do I get a stock ticker for my system?
[01:07] <cdm10> cafuego: ah, ok.
[01:07] <Nikolas1994> Pelo.i am playing this game since 2005
[01:07] <damjan_> cafuego, I reinstalled the package gdm, I reconfigure it, I don't know any other procedure
[01:07] <scguy318> dn4: theres a stock applet for GNOME I think
[01:07] <Tech-Mike> using a belkin usb w/less adapter and i dont have a wpa option, so i dl'd wpasupplicant but havn a little trouble getn it setup
[01:07] <dn4> !stocks
[01:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stocks - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:07] <scguy318> Nikolas1994: mm, what does the pwd command give ya
[01:07] <Fumoh> omg
[01:07] <Nikolas1994> pwd?
[01:07] <Fumoh> not pwd omg.
[01:07] <edd> oh so basically its extremely experimental software that can greatly damage your OS
[01:07] <cdm10> edd: Normal Ubuntu has effects, and Firefox, and a bunch of other stuff, but not Wine. You can install Wine easily, though, through Add/Remove.
[01:07] <cafuego> damjan_: You 8did* pick the correct driver and resolutions in xcfg right?
[01:07] <jeff_> hi, what's a good cd/dvd burning app? for linux/ubuntu.
[01:08] <scguy318> Fumoh: mm?
[01:08] <Lars_G> please?
[01:08] <cdm10> edd: i guess you could say taht.
[01:08] <erUSUL> jeff_: gnomebaker
[01:08] <Pelo> Nikolas1994,  I just extracted the .tgz file to the desktop,  cd to the ~/Desktop/Tibia/ folder and typed  Tibia  that is all
[01:08] <cafuego> damjan_: What does /var/log/Xorg.0.log say about it all?
[01:08] <erUSUL> jeff_: brasero
[01:08] <astro76> jeff_, k3b
[01:08] <scguy318> Fumoh: he hasn't shown me his terminal prompt, i need to know :)
[01:08] <damjan_> cafuego, drivers worked fine
[01:08] <cdm10> edd: The current Ubuntu release ships with an older version of Compiz, but you can install Beryl, which is beter.
[01:08] <damjan_> cafuego, wait
[01:08] <Fumoh> "user not known to th eunderlying authentication module"
[01:08] <edd> the only thing im worried about is the wireless drivers...all i did in UU was download the .deb file through the forums and isntall it through the flash drive
[01:08] <cdm10> edd: *better
[01:08] <scguy318> Nikolas1994: yeah just do pwd
[01:08] <Fumoh> Ok seriously, how the hell did I break a livecd?!
[01:08] <Tech-Mike> can anybody here help me with wpasupplicant?
[01:08] <scguy318> Nikolas1994: just wanna know what your current directory is
[01:08] <cdm10> edd: Well, ubuntu will read the same .deb files.
[01:08] <NessieLiberation> cdm10: well, gutsy will soon replace that with compiz-fusion
[01:08] <jeff_> thanks
[01:08] <Fumoh> I'm such a badass
[01:08] <cdm10> NessieLiberation: I was about to say that :)
[01:09] <damjan_> cafuego, where to past the log
[01:09] <cafuego> !paste
[01:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:09] <cdm10> edd: I'm running Gutsy now, though, which is the codename for the beta version of Ubuntu. It's coming out later this month, so if you're planning on installing it, I'd wait 'till it comes out.
[01:09] <edd> another thing im confused about is...in the current official version of ubuntu...do the hdd, cdrom, and usb mount automatically? bc i am still somewhat green with linux and often forget the commands
[01:09] <damjan_> cafuego, no the whole
[01:09] <CarlF1> edd yes.
[01:09] <cdm10> edd: Yes, they do. And in Gutsy, they'll mount Windows partitions with read AND write access by default.
[01:09] <Nikolas1994> nikolasandreou@nikolasandreou-desktop:~/Documents/Tibia$
[01:09] <scguy318> edd: they should, the GNOME automounter is supposed to
[01:10] <NessieLiberation> there's not much point in installing beryl over compiz at this point now
[01:10] <Lars_G> I've installed a feisty using debootstrap, but now while configuring something VERY strange is happening.
[01:10] <cdm10> NessieLiberation: Well, if you're going to use Feisty...
[01:10] <thesaint4444> can anyone tell me what is wrong with this fstab entry ?    '/dev/hdb1      /data1          ext3    defaults        1       2'
[01:10] <Lars_G> I can't connect to any open ports on the machine, from the machine itself, or ping any interface's ip from the machine
[01:10] <edd> oh ok thats pretty cool
[01:10] <CarlF1> what is the command to show fan speeds?
[01:10] <Lars_G> but I can ping external ips, and from anothjer machine I can ping the local addresses, and connect to the open ports in here.....
[01:10] <damjan_> cafuego, never mind, Error opening /dev/input/wacom : Success, it says
[01:10] <Lars_G> Any ideas?
[01:10] <erUSUL> thesaint4444: nothing at first sight
[01:10] <NessieLiberation> cdm10: the expectation is that people will update eventually from feisty as it isnt LTS
[01:10] <cdm10> CarlF1: I'd look around in the /proc part of the filesystem, if it's anywhere, it's there.
[01:10] <thesaint4444> erUSUL :  it killed my machine...
[01:10] <Lars_G> thesaint4444: btw does the directory /data1 exist?
[01:10] <scguy318> Nikolas1994: weird, indeed, chmod 777 Tibia again, then ./Tibia
[01:10] <CarlF1> thesaint4444: you don't have 2 drives, or a /data1 dir? :)
[01:10] <edd> i dunno...part of me wants to have everything work right away but i wonder if i'd get better at troubleshooting in linux if i just started with the basics and mounted everything manually
[01:10] <scguy318> Nikolas1994: you still have the permission error?
[01:11] <cdm10> CarlF1: Also, try installing the package sensors-applet. It lets you add a sensors thingy to your panel.
[01:11] <NessieLiberation> CarlF1: it depends on chipsets as to whether it's supported, but lm-sensors is that controls it
[01:11] <cdm10> edd: Ubuntu doesn't make you mount everything automatically...
[01:11] <thesaint4444> CarlF1: yes it exists and i have 5 drives...
[01:11] <Nikolas1994> bash: ./Tibia: No such file or directory
[01:11] <cdm10> edd: i mean manually.
[01:11] <cdm10> edd: It does everything for you, just like Ubuntu Ultimate.
[01:11] <scguy318> Nikolas1994: are you in the directory?
[01:11] <hypodyne> gday all
[01:11] <Nikolas1994> yeah
[01:11] <Nikolas1994> i put it on the desktop
[01:11] <Nikolas1994> nikolasandreou@nikolasandreou-desktop:~/Desktop/Tibia$
[01:11] <cdm10> edd: Ubuntu Ultimate is basically Ubuntu + a bunch of stuff you probably don't need and can install easily in Ubuntu anyway.
[01:11] <edd> i know but I want to become more proficient with linux administration...what do you recommend I use to gain all the skills to do basic-moderate troubleshooting
[01:12] <erUSUL> thesaint4444: except (checking the man page) that it should be 0 2 not 1 2 (the one couses linux to try to dump the fs)
[01:12] <edd> ah ok....so basically UU is windows vista
[01:12] <hypodyne> I want to use PGP to find out what its all about..
[01:12] <damjan_> cafuego, are you there?
[01:12] <scguy318> Nikolas1994: before your pwd output showed that you were in ~/Documents/Tibia :S
[01:12] <CarlF1> thesaint4444: see what this said: sudo mount /dev/hdb1      /data1
[01:12] <scguy318> Nikolas1994: mm k, so are the extracted files in ~/Desktop/Tibia?
[01:12] <cdm10> hypodyne: install the seahorse package (search for it in Add/REmove) and it'll give you a nice UI for PGP
[01:12] <cdm10>  /gpg
[01:12] <Nikolas1994> yes
[01:12] <Nikolas1994> they are
[01:12] <CarlF1> thesaint4444: also, what makes you think there is anything wrong?
[01:12] <the_disheaver> nbcnews works fine in konq...
[01:12] <NessieLiberation> edd: there's nowt in UU you cant easily do in U, but it isnt supported ;)
[01:13] <hypodyne> Well I installed the GnomePGP.. will that do?
[01:13] <cdm10> edd: Well, Ubuntu is designed to be easy to use... it'll do most things automatically for you. However, the core Linux functionality is still there. If you want something that makes you do everything manually, try Gentoo, or something like that.
[01:13] <cdm10> hypodyne: I've always liked Seahorse better.
[01:13] <edd> nessieliberation: whats nowt
[01:13] <scguy318> Nikolas1994: hell, without the Terminal, if you just browse to it on the Desktop, and double-click the Tibia file, does it work?
[01:13] <ader10> How do I measure the load on my GPU from command-line?
[01:13] <astro76> hypodyne, I'd second the recommendation for Seahorse
[01:13] <NessieLiberation> edd: english slang for nothing :P
[01:13] <edd> ah ok lol nessie
[01:13] <hypodyne> okay let me change it
[01:13] <dn4> scguy318, any idea what it is called
[01:13] <damjan_> I tried to update the distro to gusty gibbon, but the program stacked, why?
[01:13] <CarlF1> ader10: uptime and top are handy
[01:14] <Nikolas1994> no it doesnt
[01:14] <edd> cdm10: i did noticed that gentoo is a pain in the ass to install though bc you need to compile before installing
[01:14] <erklaerbaer_> !help
[01:14] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:14] <NessieLiberation> CarlF1: gpu load is above the range of those programs
[01:14] <edd> did notice**
[01:14] <cdm10> NessieLiberation: never heard that one, and I'm a native speaker...
[01:14] <midtown> Hey guys, I see Tribe 4 apparently made the shutdown splash screen "smooth" but it still flashes to black for me on Tribe 5 and the Beta. I can't seem to find the bug to note this, any hints?
[01:14] <cdm10> NessieLiberation: never mind, you mean english as in british.
[01:14] <ader10> CarlF1: top only shows cpu I think
[01:14] <cdm10> edd: Well, you wanted to do things manually :)
[01:14] <NessieLiberation> cdm10: of course i do, americans dont speak proper english :P
[01:14] <CarlF1> oh, G.  I read C.
[01:14] <scguy318> danjam_: if you were trying to do a dist-upgrade, shouldn't do that
[01:14] <cdm10> edd: I'd recommend just using Ubuntu, and slowly getting into the commandline stuff as you go along.
[01:14] <scguy318> dn4: what?
[01:14] <NessieLiberation> midtown: #ubuntu+1
[01:15] <damjan_> scguy31, why not
[01:15] <edd> cdm10: lol true...but im wondering....how do you compile before and what kind of tutorial should I go through to learn
[01:15] <scguy318> damjan_: it will nicely break your system, lemme find the Gutsy release notes
[01:15] <thesaint4444> CarlF1: you must specify the filesystem type...
[01:15] <dn4> scguy318, just wondering if you knew the name of the stock ticker app
[01:15] <scguy318> damjan_: theres a proper way to upgrade
[01:15] <edd> cdm10: i want to learn how to compile bc that'll only make me that much better understand the OS but I'm not sure what to do
[01:15] <scguy318> dn4: theres a GNOME applet called Invest I think
[01:15] <cdm10> edd: Most things that you'll be compiling come with something called a configure script. You run that (navigate to the folder it's in, type ./configure) and then type make to compile it.
[01:15] <scguy318> dn4: not sure how good that is
[01:15] <ader10> How do I measure the load on my GPU from command-line?
[01:15] <scguy318> Nikolas1994: mmm
[01:15] <cdm10> edd: but there's a lot more trickery going into it... sometimes you have to download additional packages to compile it.
[01:15] <damjan_> scguy31, but I like the new screen setup feature
[01:15] <NessieLiberation> !repeat > ader10
[01:15] <cdm10> !repeat | ader10
[01:16] <ubotu> ader10: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[01:16] <scguy318> Nikolas1994: try Wine?
[01:16] <midtown> NessieLiberation, thanks!
[01:16] <cdm10> NessieLiberation: damn, you beat me!
[01:16] <damjan_> scguy31, can I install it for Feisty?
[01:16] <Nikolas1994> i want to run the linux client for practising
[01:16] <Nikolas1994> lol
[01:16] <CarlF1> thesaint4444: you may have fs errors.  check with : ckfs /dev/hdb4
[01:16] <Nikolas1994> it says permision denied
[01:16] <Nikolas1994> still
[01:16] <edd> cdm10: thats why it could be a pain lol. wouldn't I need an internet connection for that and without the right drivers you cant recognize the connection right?
[01:17] <cdm10> edd: However, I almost never have to compile things... and I don't recommend learning how just for the hell of it. I'd just go with the flow until you NEED to compile something, then learn.
[01:17] <ader10> heh, sorry for repeating guys, I just repeat it a little while after it scrolls off of my irc screen
[01:17] <scguy318> damjan_: to upgrade, you have to do like gksudo update-manager -c -d
[01:17] <lennon_x31> anyone knows where i can find the drives for a tv tuner enltv-fm of encore????
[01:17] <cdm10> edd: Pretty much, yeah. I thought you said that the wifi thing is just a .deb?
[01:17] <cdm10> ader10: well wait a little longer :)
[01:17] <NessieLiberation> ader10: wait about 20 times longer
[01:17] <damjan_> scguy31, that command I did
[01:17] <cdm10> CarlF1: Do you mean fsck?
[01:17] <scguy318> Nikolas1994: strange the whole permission thing, can you right-click the file and check its permissions
[01:17] <edd> cdm10: it is a .deb but I think with gentoo you need tar.gzs
[01:17] <scguy318> damjan_: mm, dunno, best bet is to ask in #ubuntu+1
[01:18] <CarlF1> cdm10: oh yeah.  that.  at least I didn't say mkfs :)
[01:18] <Nikolas1994> yeah
[01:18] <Nikolas1994> what should i check?
[01:18] <damjan_> scguy31, ok
[01:18] <cdm10> edd: I guess... but I'm not telling you to use gentoo, in fact, i think you should stick with Ubuntu as your main OS.
[01:18] <NessieLiberation> Nikolas1994: or do ls -l, and check to see if it shows your username twice against the file
[01:18] <damjan_> scguy31, but what about the screen & graph. program
[01:18] <cdm10> edd: If you want to try Gentoo, try it on an older machine... it'll probably be easier to set up the hardware, and you won't sacrifice the ease-of-use of Ubuntu on your main machine.
[01:18] <cdm10> CarlF1: lol, yeah.
[01:18] <Nikolas1994> -rw-rw-rw- 1 nikolasandreou nikolasandreou  5175944 2007-06-26 13:36 Tibia
[01:18] <scguy318> damjan_: what screen and graph program?
[01:19] <scguy318> Nikolas1994: strange that the chmod +x Tibia doesn't seem to be working
[01:19] <edd> cdm10: oh absolutely, im going to be purchasing an older laptop so I can use that to get used to the compiling
[01:19] <damjan_> scguy31, from gutsy, i want it in Feisty
[01:19] <cdm10> edd: I have to go now, so direct all further questions to the chatroom :)
[01:19] <edd> cdm10: thanks again i appreciate it :
[01:19] <NessieLiberation> scguy318: the file is already owned by him
[01:19] <scguy318> damjan_: you could try downloading the deb manually from packages.ubuntu.com and installing it locally, at your own risk
[01:19] <lamerys> guys di you know how to get vista's bootloader back?
[01:19] <scguy318> damjan_: or you could just wait 2 weeks
[01:19] <Nikolas1994> =(
[01:19] <damjan_> scguy31, I know, but what is the pack. name
[01:20] <NessieLiberation> Nikolas1994: it sounds as if the file wants to run as root - now, if you trust it, you can use sudo, if not, dont run it
[01:20] <Nikolas1994> i trust it
[01:20] <wii> Tm_T: how do i get to the ops channel?
[01:20] <scguy318> lamerys: boot Vista DVD, open up its command prompt, bootrec /fixmbr
[01:20] <Nikolas1994> tell me what should i do with sudo
[01:20] <NessieLiberation> wii: /j #ubuntu-ops
[01:20] <scguy318> damjan_: i dunno
[01:20] <NessieLiberation> Nikolas1994: is it a graphical app, or a command line one ?
[01:20] <scguy318> NessieLiberation: i know
[01:20] <scguy318> NessieLiberation: its a nice GL app
[01:20] <scguy318> *OpenGL
[01:21] <Nikolas1994> graphical
[01:21] <NessieLiberation> Nikolas1994: then gksudo file
[01:21] <PP|Spydon> How do I install Xubuntu on an old computer that doesn't want to boot cdrom?
[01:21] <lamerys> scguy all i have is hp recovery program which is on my hard drive
[01:21] <lamerys> im totally fucked by ubuntu
[01:21] <lamerys> :D
[01:21] <Nikolas1994> ok
[01:21] <Nikolas1994> done
[01:21] <Nikolas1994> i inserted my password
[01:21] <Nikolas1994> now?
[01:21] <scguy318> lamerys: why do you need Vista's boot loader?
[01:21] <kempo> ich hab den hdaps patch wie spiele ich den ein? das ist ein kernel patch
[01:22] <LjL> !de | kempo
[01:22] <ubotu> kempo: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:22] <scguy318> !de | kempo
[01:22] <NessieLiberation> !de | kempo
[01:22] <AndrewB> !de | kempo
[01:22] <AndrewB> heh
[01:22] <damjan_> who needs vista
[01:22] <damjan_> vista is for lusers
[01:22] <NessieLiberation> PP|Spydon: you can almost always change the boot order in the bios settings, that's usually reached by f2 or del on boot
[01:22] <ryanakca> Anybody know if there's an audio equivalent of imagemagick? more specifically, I'm looking to remove the first 88 seconds of a .mp3
[01:22] <scguy318> damjan_: you need it to play Halo 2 with DX10 :P
[01:22] <ader10> now, now. Don't be a "JOIN LINUX OR ELSE!!1" nerd...
[01:22] <ader10> :)
[01:22] <damjan_> scguy31, I don't do games
[01:23] <w4rd> ryanakca: possible LAME
[01:23] <scguy318> Nikolas1994: does anything happen if you do chmod +x Tibia? any messages?
[01:23] <NessieLiberation> ryanakca: lame can do that, so can audacity
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[01:23] <scguy318> Nikolas1994: that +x flag doesn't seem to be set
[01:23] <PP|Spydon> No, NessieLiberation, not on old computers
[01:23] <skinnypuppy1334> i've got a dell dimension 4600, does anyone know if it will support a single 1gig stick or if it requires pairs in banks/
[01:23] <PP|Spydon> not this one in all case
[01:23] <Nikolas1994> No messages
[01:23] <ryanakca> damjan_: I'm looking for a CLI method.
[01:24] <PP|Spydon> you can only change if you want to boot with floppy or not
[01:24] <scguy318> damjan_: some of us do :P
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[01:24] <damjan_> scguy31, :)
[01:24] <NessieLiberation> PP|Spydon: all computers ive ever used (even pre-CD drives) can be set if you find the right option
[01:24] <scguy318> lamerys: so why do you need the Vista MBR? still asking here
[01:24] <PP|Spydon> How old computers are you talking about here NessieLiberation ?
[01:24] <NessieLiberation> PP|Spydon: um, 1990 is the oldest ive used recently
[01:25] <rzimek78> how to check in the terminal if I have 10Mb or 100Mb/s local connection?
[01:25] <damjan_> scguy31, with my nvidia ge-force mx 4400 with agp 8X, sure I can play games :)
[01:25] <PP|Spydon> weird, then my bios really should have cd as an boot option
[01:25] <damjan_> scguy31, mame games
[01:25] <NessieLiberation> ryanakca: from cli, i'd take lame, or mplayer if lame cant do it right
[01:27] <intr80__> rzimek78 : try lspci
[01:27] <ryanakca> NessieLiberation: thanks
[01:27] <intr80__> rzimek78 : probably it should give you an idea.
[01:27] <rzimek78> ok
[01:27] <Nikolas1994> scguy318 no other ideas?
[01:27] <NessieLiberation> ryanakca: with mplayer it would be -ss 88 to start at position 88 seconds in
[01:27] <scguy318> Nikolas1994: i guess the Wine route :(
[01:27] <Fumoh> lol I'm doing a memtest from the live CD... I have zero passes, all errors.
[01:28] <Fumoh> there's mah problem.
[01:28] <Nikolas1994> what does this gksudo do?
[01:28] <Pici> !gksudo | Nikolas1994
[01:28] <ubotu> Nikolas1994: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application>  - See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo for more info
[01:28] <spuddogg_> anyone know how to enable my laptop's svideo out?
[01:28] <lavender_dream> How do you configure your monitor refresh rate before the desktop bootup? I have my refresh rate at 75 but it's listed as 60 during bootup process causing some text bleeds.
[01:28] <spuddogg_> !tvout
[01:28] <ubotu> For help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)
[01:28] <Nikolas1994> what if it's a commandline app?
[01:29] <PP|Spydon> NessieLiberation, Do you know how to do if there really isn't an option for cd boot?
[01:29] <damjan_> F12
[01:30] <rzimek78> intr80__: hmm, but lspci lists all PCI devices and my network card is on the motherboard, not in PCI slot :(
[01:30] <scguy318> Pici: why do we need to run a game as root anyway?
[01:30] <intr80__> Pici: You should not run games as root
[01:30] <Pici> scguy318: a game? I dont know.
[01:30] <damjan_> Bye!
[01:30] <Pici> intr80__: I didnt suggest it.
[01:30] <intr80__> ok :)
[01:30] <Pici> intr80__: scguy318, Nikolas1994 asked what gksudo was
[01:31] <NessieLiberation> PP|Spydon: then maybe you're unlucky / if you check all the bios options, and you check the boot menu (usually control or f8 or f12), then i dunno
[01:32] <PP|Spydon> there isn't even a boot menu NessieLiberation :P
[01:32] <scguy318> Pici: ah
[01:32] <heartsblood> is it possible to fix the "timestamp too far in the future" bug without restarting the system?
[01:33] <Nikolas1994> Cannot open /home/nikolasandreou/Desktop/Tibia/Tibia: No application suitable for automatic installation is available for handling this kind of file.
[01:33] <scguy318> heartsblood: synch with ntp server?
[01:33] <heartsblood> if you mean in the X interface yes
[01:33] <scguy318> Nikolas1994: is there any Properties in Nautlius that allows you to change permissions?
[01:33] <heartsblood> and sudo -K didn't work either
[01:33] <Nikolas1994> Nautlius?
[01:34] <Nikolas1994> What's this?
[01:34] <john280z_> I deleted my lower Panel, is their a config file somewhere I can edit?
[01:34] <Pici> john280z_: Right click on the upper panel and click 'new panel'
[01:35] <cubesis> hey
[01:35] <NessieLiberation> anyway... night folks
[01:35] <scguy318> Nikolas1994: the GNOME file manager
[01:35] <cubesis> anyone running a two socket amd dual core
[01:35] <nomaS> any idea to resume a download file on mozilla firefox ?
[01:35] <cubesis> im downloading server edition 64 bit ubuntu and wondering if it works
[01:36] <cubesis> for amd's dual socket amd 64 fx-74
[01:36] <cubesis> anyone know if theres anyone running that?
[01:36] <PP|Spydon> Does anyone know how to boot a xubuntu cd from an ooold computer?
[01:36] <scguy318> Nikolas1994: other than that I would suggest Wine
[01:36] <LinuxJuggalo> cubesis: x64 is made specially for those types of processors
[01:36] <Nikolas1994> k
[01:36] <cubesis> but its two cpu's
[01:36] <cubesis> so thats why i ask
[01:36] <PP|Spydon> that doesn't have any boot settings in bios
[01:36] <cubesis> like 4 cores
[01:36] <john280z_> Pici, Thanks a bunch !   :)
[01:37] <cubesis> later upgradeable to 8 cores with barcelona
[01:37] <cubesis> i know it runs the dual core amd
[01:37] <cubesis> but i am getting the new 2 socket dual core
[01:37] <LinuxJuggalo> cubesis: theres no problem with that, Linux detects all types of dual processors
[01:37] <cubesis> like 2 cpu's on the mb
[01:37] <SlimeyPete> cubesis: it'll work fine
[01:37] <cubesis> anyone run server edition ubuntu?
[01:37] <LinuxJuggalo> cubesis: my server has 2 xeon quadcore processors and runs on RHEL5 just fine
[01:37] <cubesis> i wanna find some cool features
[01:38] <SlimeyPete> Linux will treat it as four processes (as far as you can see, as the user, anyway)
[01:38] <Frogzoo> !anyone | cubesis
[01:38] <SlimeyPete> *processors
[01:38] <ubotu> cubesis: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:38] <cubesis> i have webhosting with that juggalo
[01:38] <cubesis> its fast!
[01:38] <cubesis> lol this is my first time on irc
[01:39] <cubesis> so what are some good server features :)
[01:39] <cubesis> does it still have all the goodies that are on desktop version
[01:39] <cubesis> im asking because i am on desktop and like it alot but i am building a server pc and i am downloading the server edition
[01:40] <thesaint4444> CarlF1: thanks for the help!
[01:40] <john280z_> cubesis: I don't think so, no Gnome
[01:40] <CarlF1> sure
[01:40] <cubesis> no gnome, lol cancel download
[01:40] <marko-ubuntu> cubesis-  nope, server version runs in command line   interface
[01:40] <LinuxJuggalo> cubesis: a server install will just be a shell terminal
[01:40] <bl4cktone> hey guys, I was in the middle of downloading Gutsy and my power went out.  started back up and now it ask me to do a partial upgrade so I clicked on that and now it's saying "Could not calculate the upgrade"  If anyone knows how to get the update going again please let me know
[01:40] <cubesis> good thing i asked
[01:40] <cubesis> i need a gui
[01:40] <cubesis> i am not super smart
[01:40] <marko-ubuntu> ;*)
[01:40] <scguy318> cubesis: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop after installing the server edition?
[01:40] <marko-ubuntu> oops
[01:40] <cubesis> and anyway its gonna be a home media pc
[01:41] <Frogzoo> cubesis: you can install a dte if you want, though usually you don't want x on a server
[01:41] <scguy318> yep
[01:41] <cubesis> so i could install server edition and just install desktop too
[01:41] <SlimeyPete> cubesis: sure
[01:41] <astro76> cubesis, just install the desktop edition, there's no reason it can't be a server...
[01:41] <cubesis> sorry but i am not too smart could you tell me what server edition would be good for
[01:41] <LinuxJuggalo> cubesis: yes, but i do not recommend GUI's on a server
[01:42] <d4rkmonkey> cubesis the server edition is good for servers
[01:42] <SlimeyPete> cubesis: server edition is just the same OS, without the desktop environment
[01:42] <cubesis> well its a personal server
[01:42] <SlimeyPete> so if you're going to run a server but want graphics, just use the desktop CD
[01:42] <g0dd3ss> Hai friendz, on windoze, I used an app called ai roboform which automatically saved and filled forms and logins in my browser, and stored them in encrypted files, is there something similar for linux?
[01:42] <d4rkmonkey> cubesis if you don't know how to get around without a gui, just install the desktop CD
[01:42] <LinuxJuggalo> !server | cubesis
[01:42] <cubesis> i already have a webhost so this one is personal
[01:42] <ubotu> cubesis: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[01:42] <astro76> cubesis, but since this is for your personal lan, and considering you are a beginner, just use the desktop
[01:42] <ror> g0dd3ss, there'll be firefox extensions to do that
[01:42] <cubesis> thanks ubotu
[01:43] <marko-ubuntu> cubesis-  i run mys server on desktop version, when i dont use desktop i close down gnome, gdm ...
[01:43] <cubesis> yeah i suppose i won't cancel the download, but i do think the new build is going to need the desktop version
[01:43] <scguy318> cubesis: ubotu is a bot :)
[01:43] <cubesis> <n00b
[01:43] <cubesis> hardcore
[01:44] <cubesis> thanks for letting me know about dual socket cpu support and ubuntu server edition
[01:44] <wayneward> greetings
[01:44] <cubesis> you guys are good people
[01:44] <wayneward> i need help on installing ati driver if possible anyone help one minute
[01:45] <wayneward> i have followed instructions but getting no were!!!
[01:45] <riotkittie> which ati driver are you installing, wayneward ?
[01:45] <cubesis> and i am not a beginner to ubuntu, just not an advanced user
[01:45] <wayneward> i tried the apt get install way i need 3d acceleration
[01:45] <wayneward> if possible
[01:45] <cubesis> i have had it on my athlon xp 2100 for a couple years
[01:45] <wayneward> the standard driver doesnt do this!
[01:46] <wayneward> its a radeon 9200
[01:46] <wayneward> and ive just installed feisty and updated fully
[01:46] <riotkittie> ah. i have no clue about that, wayneward. sorry. :|
[01:47] <wayneward> no worries i tried various howto on the internet but had no joy
[01:47] <martin_> really? - I tried the first howto I found, worked perfectly
[01:47] <marko-ubuntu> do you have a laptop wayneward ?
[01:47] <martin_> let me see if I can find it again
[01:47] <wayneward> no a machine not a laptop
[01:47] <cubesis> could anyone help me out with the names of some 64 bit software on ubuntu?
[01:48] <wayneward> the instructions were straight forward but no i have a terminal!!
[01:48] <cubesis> i want to take advantage of the 64 bit processor's
[01:48] <cubesis> no terminal?
[01:48] <Theyain> Anyone here think they can help me with an xorg problem?
[01:49] <freakazoid0223> wayneward: can you boot into safe mode?
[01:49] <bl4cktone> hey guys, I was in the middle of downloading Gutsy and my power went out.  started back up and now it ask me to do a partial upgrade so I clicked on that and now it's saying "Could not calculate the upgrade"  If anyone knows how to get the update going again please let me know
[01:49] <wayneward> im in a terminal and adding ati line back so i can get it working again but without acceleration for now...
[01:50] <cubesis> uh redo the install from the start and do a fresh partition
[01:50] <bl4cktone> but I'm doing an upgrade
[01:50] <martin_> cubesis: I think he meant he had a desktop, not a laptop (not that he does not have a terminal ;) )
[01:50] <cubesis> re install the package manager
[01:50] <IdleOne> bl4cktone: restart the upgrade
[01:51] <wayneward> yes a desktop
[01:51] <martin_> wayneward: have you tried installing the driver directly from ATI ?
[01:51] <IdleOne> bl4cktone: does it say it wants to do a partial upgrade when you restart it?
[01:51] <wayneward> im back in x now no ill try that now.......
[01:51] <bl4cktone> IdleOne: yes
[01:52] <Theyain> I need help with an xorg problem.  for some reason it keeps freezing after I log in.  And when it freezes, the entire thing freezes.
[01:52] <bl4cktone> ok I did it over again with gksu "update-manager -c -d
[01:52] <IdleOne> bl4cktone: come to #ubuntu+1 please
[01:52] <bl4cktone> IdleOne: seems to be working now
[01:52] <marko-ubuntu> dont know if this worx with your card.,, but i find this solution for some ati cards with radeon chipset   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39604/plain/
[01:52] <Theyain> right now I am in gnome fail safe mode
[01:52] <cubesis> what some cool 64 bit stuff???
[01:52] <IdleOne> bl4cktone: ok cool. gutsy support in #ubuntu+1 until official release
[01:52] <cubesis> is there a gaming channel
[01:53] <wayneward> im getting ati drivers now see how i get on is it pretty straight forward with ati driver from ati site??
[01:53] <Theyain> Hello?
[01:53] <Frogzoo> !games | cubesis
[01:53] <ubotu> cubesis: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[01:53] <cubesis> i seen that
[01:53] <cubesis> oh oops bot again
[01:54] <cubesis> thanks frogzoo im gonna check it out
[01:54] <cubesis> what !games?
[01:54] <cubesis> didn't work
[01:55] <Theyain> So, can anyone help me?
[01:55] <cubesis> i hope unreal tournament 3 is 64 bit
[01:55] <Yoman> is there any way I can run files with c++ language?
[01:55] <Yoman> in shell
[01:55] <ader10> How can I have 2 sessions of X?
[01:55] <ader10> I'd like to run compiz and opengl games at the same time
[01:55] <ader10> I know it's possible
[01:55] <freakazoid0223> cubesis :unreal tournament supports 64 bit procs so I would think so
[01:55] <freakazoid0223> 2k7
[01:56] <cubesis> yeah yoman get bluefish and learn how to use it
[01:56] <PP|Spydon> Tell <NessieLiberation> that he/she was right and that im thankful, bye!
[01:56] <cubesis> yeah supports but i hope its coded to take advantage of it
[01:56] <d4rkmonkey> Yoman I'm not sure but make them executabel first, like chmod +x <file> then type <filename> so if its in your homedirectory and is called like aweseme chmode +x ~/awesome ~/awesome
[01:56] <cubesis> i spent a lot to build a quad core amd system
[01:56] <cubesis> and i want to take advantage of it
[01:56] <d4rkmonkey> Yoman or do what cubesis said, I don't know that much about c++
[01:57] <Yoman> kay thx :):)
[01:57] <freakazoid0223> 64 bit version has enhanced graphics
[01:57] <smultron> how do i get Keyring to auto-start without asking me for a password every time i turn the computer on? i've tried the pam-keyring thing suggested in the forms, but no luck
[01:57] <cubesis> right now amd just release amd quad core cpu
[01:57] <Yoman> d4rkmonkey: if I make them executable and run them I get lotsa command not founds
[01:58] <cubesis> and my mainboard that i just bought has 2 sockets that will support it
[01:58] <Theyain> So, let me guess, no one here knows enough about xorg to help me at all?
[01:58] <cubesis> but for now i bought 2 dual core fx-72's
[01:58] <jshipley> does anybody know much about configuring wireless networking from the command prompt (no gui utilities)?
[01:58] <cubesis> but in a year when the price goes down i will get the quad cores!!
[01:58] <Yoman> Theyain: sry not me :/
[01:58] <cubesis> its gonna be a sweet home media pc, anyone know whats some good software
[01:58] <cubesis> just in general for a media pc
[01:59] <cubesis> i know about drivers and everything
[01:59] <scguy318> jshipley: i imagine iwconfig
[01:59] <d4rkmonkey> Yoman I have no idea than, I've never used C++ yet
[01:59] <chamunks> is there a more recent eyecandy tutorial because the one on the ubuntuguide.org is totally bogus and keeps irrecoverably screwing with my system and the one that uses envy gives my xorg errors that dont produce error reports in X
[01:59] <cubesis> but like you guys gotta be using some cool software i don't know about
[01:59] <scguy318> Yoamn: your quesiton?
[01:59] <astro76> smultron, did you delete the existing keyring so the password can be set to your user password?
[01:59] <Yoman> wanna run a c++ file called something.conf
[01:59] <d4rkmonkey> chamunks there is built in desktop effects on feisty(compiz is what that uses) and theres compiz-fusion on gutsy, that enough eye candy for you?
[01:59] <jshipley> scguy318: I'm using iwconfig, but it doesn't seem to be connecting to my router.
[01:59] <Yoman> to configure my soundcard
[02:00] <scguy318> Yoman: you'll have to compile it
[02:00] <wii> IN HERE GOES TO FAST
[02:00] <smultron> astro76: they're both the same to begin with. i only have one password
[02:00] <Yoman> the is no configure fle
[02:00] <scguy318> jshipley: ditto for the NetworkManager?
[02:00] <wii> Mii can not survive in here
[02:00] <scguy318> Yoman: you dont need a configure file to make
[02:00] <scguy318> Yoman: just supply some arguments to g++
[02:00] <d4rkmonkey> wii what are you talking about now?
[02:00] <chamunks> d4rkmonkey, sorry for the tone of frustration i have just had it working before with no real effort what so ever but for some reason this time around it just keeps killing my system
[02:00] <wii> nothing
[02:00] <scguy318> Yoman: man g++ if you want to know
[02:00] <d4rkmonkey> wii then please be quiet.
[02:00] <wii> just shut up and talk
[02:00] <jshipley> scguy318: It's a server install, no X windows installed
[02:00] <Yoman> scguy318: kay :)
[02:01] <void^> Yoman: how do you know it's a "c++ file"?
[02:01] <scguy318> jshipley: ah
[02:01] <chamunks> d4rkmonkey, has gutsy been released yet? I have been kindof out of the checking digg loop fora bit
[02:01] <Yoman> void^: the code
[02:01] <wii> dont mine me im just mad
[02:01] <reya276> one of my laptops crashed and it says that I have multiple duplicate blocks in use and that I need to do a manual fsck but that apt is not install and it takes me to a command prompt. The funny part is that it tells me to do 'apt-get install apt' to get apt
[02:01] <d4rkmonkey> chamunks no, it will be released really soon though, I believe october 18.
[02:01] <astro76> smultron, and you edited /etc/pam.d/gdm ?
[02:01] <scguy318> wii: #ubuntu-offtopic please
[02:01] <LjL> wii: do you want to be banned from here as well?
[02:01] <void^> Yoman: and it's called "something.conf"?
[02:01] <Yoman> yea
[02:01] <d4rkmonkey> chamunks the beta is fairly stable if you really want to try it out, but go to #ubuntu+1 for help with that
[02:01] <Yoman> tbh all I want is sound for flash in firefox2
[02:01] <scguy318> jshipley: mm, what card
[02:02] <wii> LjL: lol i dont chat in here so it doesnt mater
[02:02] <Yoman> can't get what is wrong
[02:02] <chamunks> I just dont want to have to reinstall my system again after like 2 reinstalls in the past 48
[02:02] <cubesi1> does anyone know what i could use to rip my dvds to hard drive for viewing
[02:02] <chamunks> d4rkmonkey, I just dont want to have to reinstall my system again after like 2 reinstalls in the past 48
[02:02] <scguy318> wii: if you wish to discuss off-topic matters, then please hang out in #ubuntu-offtopic, the channel is quite busy
[02:02] <astro76> cubesi1, dvd::rip
[02:02] <cubesi1> dvd::rip ?
[02:02] <IdleOne> LjL: that looked like a request from wii to be banned
[02:02] <cubesi1> like that
[02:02] <wii> scguy318: im allready there
[02:02] <jshipley> scguy318: It's a Linksys WMP54G with a RT2500 chipset.  The card seems to be recognized, but it's not connecting to my router
[02:03] <chamunks> d4rkmonkey, i basically use compiz for the hotkeys and for the whole productivity aspects
[02:03] <scguy318> jshipley: have you tried using ndiswrapper? yeah, i know, but I have gotten it to work every time
[02:03] <wii> o_O
[02:03] <astro76> !info dvd::rip | cubesi1
[02:03] <ubotu> cubesi1: dvdrip: perl front end for transcode. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.98.4-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1083 kB, installed size 2572 kB
[02:03] <ader10> How do I get 2 sessions of X?
[02:03] <ader10> I want to be able to use compiz for the helpful wm things and to show off but I also want to be able to play openGL games at the same time.
[02:03] <ader10> I know it's possible.
[02:03] <wii> Miioo sowiii
[02:03] <LjL> IdleOne: it kind of did, but i'm sure he'll let us know for sure
[02:03] <smultron> yep. i did the @include common-pamkeyring
[02:03] <scguy318> jshipley: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[02:03] <LjL> like he's done now
[02:03] <smultron> astro76:
[02:03] <Yoman> I read "audiowrapper --alsa -- /usr/lib/firefox/firefox $@ " on the net don't understand what audiowrapper is supposed to be
[02:03] <d4rkmonkey> chamunks what kinds of things are you looking for in eyecandy? and you can try #ubuntu-effects they might be able to give better help then me.
[02:03] <IdleOne> LjL: they always do :)
[02:03] <scguy318> Yoman: you have to compile the fine C++ app?
[02:03] <Theyain> Can anyone here help me with an xorg problem?
[02:03] <jshipley> scguy318: thanks
[02:03] <scguy318> Yoman: its not exactly a scripting language
[02:04] <d4rkmonkey> !ask | Theyain
[02:04] <scguy318> jshipley: np
[02:04] <ubotu> Theyain: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:04] <chamunks> d4rkmonkey, true true i was basically hoping for a more recent tutorial but to tell ya the truth ill jump into that channel thanks
[02:04] <Yoman> scguy318: you installed firefox with flash? =)
[02:04] <cubesi1> does dvd rip work on most dvd's?
[02:04] <astro76> smultron, and you are using Gnome with gdm correct? maybe you need to restart gdm... sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[02:04] <d4rkmonkey> !beryl | chamunks
[02:04] <ubotu> chamunks: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:04] <d4rkmonkey> chamunks ahhh sorry, I thought that had a link in it
[02:04] <scguy318> Yoman: yeah, flashplugin-nonfree?
[02:04] <cubesi1> and how much space is an average movie
[02:05] <Yoman> scguy318: non-free?
[02:05] <scguy318> Yoman: thats the package name
[02:05] <d4rkmonkey> cubesi1 like do you mean a whole DVD or just the movie?
[02:05] <smultron> astro76: wouldn't that be restarted when i reboot the computer?
[02:05] <scguy318> Yoman: the Flash plugin isn't exactly open-source
[02:05] <astro76> cubesi1, you can change the compression settings
[02:05] <Yoman> scguy318: yum install flashplugin-nonfree?
[02:05] <astro76> smultron, indeed
[02:05] <cubesi1> well if i could take of the ads yeah just the movie
[02:05] <Yoman> scguy318: that one actually works?
[02:05] <scguy318> Yoman: no, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[02:05] <Theyain> for some reason after I log in, xorg will crash with in a few minutes.  This has now happened several times.  The only way for me to do anything right now is through fail safe GNOME.  Does anyone have any clue as what I should do?  And I would rather have to reinstall ubu on my box
[02:05] <smultron> astro76: have you successfully done this yourself?
[02:05] <guru> does anyone here have this type of tv tuner card? Conexant CX23880
[02:05] <astro76> smultron, yes
[02:05] <scguy318> Yoman: Ubuntu uses APT, so apt-get
[02:05] <Yoman> scguy318: Im not ubuntu xD
[02:05] <wayneward> the ati installer hasnt worked im going to reinstall and try the ati installer from fresh is there anything i need to do from a clean system or just install the driver and run aticonfig and reboot or is that it??
[02:05] <d4rkmonkey> cubesi1 the last whole DVD I turned into a .iso was about 3 gigs, it was The Prestige, but when I download movies they are usually around 700 mb
[02:05] <scguy318> Yoman: then you shouldn't be here
[02:05] <astro76> smultron, I think you should try deleting your keyring anyway
[02:05] <scguy318> Yoman: what distro?
[02:06] <Yoman> scguy318: but still linux :P
[02:06] <Nashu> (a little off topic 4)d4RMONKEY : you get payed for that job man ? cause its crazy in this place... and how can you do that???
[02:06] <Yoman> scguy318: centos
[02:06] <smultron> astro76: where is that?
[02:06] <cubesi1> yeah i won't be downloading
[02:06] <Yoman> scguy318: centos5
[02:06] <scguy318> Yoman: #centos
[02:06] <cubesi1> and i want to rip the to probably mpeg or whatever else
[02:06] <cubesi1> not an ido
[02:06] <scguy318> Yoman: you'll find better help than here
[02:06] <cubesi1> iso
[02:06] <astro76> smultron, ~/.gnome2/keyrings/default.keyring
[02:06] <d4rkmonkey> Nashu what job?
[02:06] <IdleOne> Yoman: then search the centos repos for a flash package or try #centos
[02:06] <cubesi1> this room should be renamed the oracle
[02:06] <marko-ubuntu> jshipley-  search for rt2500 in aptitude or synaptic
[02:06] <Nashu> answering all the guys here... fast, very fast, on topic ALL the time
[02:06] <astro76> smultron, then restart gdm and relogin
[02:06] <ader10> How do I get 2 sessions of X?
[02:06] <ader10> I want to be able to use the WM features and play OpenGL games at the same time.
[02:06] <ader10> I know it's possible, any help?
[02:06] <Yoman> scguy318: oh well :P thx :)
[02:07] <Nashu> generating solution after solution...
[02:07] <smultron> astro, ok, trying now
[02:07] <smultron> astro76:
[02:07] <astro76> :D
[02:07] <cubesi1> yeah dvdrip does it to avi, sweet
[02:07] <d4rkmonkey> Nashu nope, I wish I did, I'm 14 and need some sort of job to make money, I'm just super bored right now, and don't feel like watching TV...
[02:08] <d4rkmonkey> Nashu its something to do when I'm on the computer and get really bored, plus I feel like I'm giving back to the community
[02:08] <Nashu> ok :)
[02:08] <scguy318> d4rkmonkey: pay attention in school :)
[02:08] <cubesi1> sell webhosting
[02:08] <d4rkmonkey> scguy318 I didn't go to school today, I'm sick... and its like 8:00 PM here.
[02:08] <Theyain> Also, I have the Kubuntu desktop and Xubuntu Desktops installed
[02:08] <scguy318> d4rkmonkey: or do something academically challenging, or play games :P
[02:08] <guru> when i do `sudo modprobe cx8800 card=12 tuner=43` i receive the following message: FATAL: Error inserting cx8800 (/lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/drivers/media/video/cx88/cx8800.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[02:08] <ader10> How do I get 2 sessions of X?
[02:08] <ader10> I want to be able to use the WM features and play OpenGL games at the same time.
[02:08] <ader10> I know it's possible, any help?
[02:08] <guru> is there a special way to pass the parameters to the cx8800 module?
[02:08] <cubesi1> ader would that mean you would hook up 2 mouses and keyboards
[02:09] <IdleOne> ader10: please dont repeat every 2 minutes
[02:09] <scguy318> ader10: not sure, #xorg?
[02:09] <chamunks> d4rkmonkey, thats all good thanks tho!
[02:09] <ader10> cubesi1: No
[02:09] <cubesi1> to go along with it
[02:09] <smultron> astro76: cool, seems to have worked. i'll do a full reboot just to check
[02:09] <Nashu> ader10 : just use 2 virtual desktops
[02:09] <cubesi1> well then how would you use them at the same time
[02:09] <Nashu> ader10 : sorry workspaces
[02:09] <ader10> Nashu: You obviously haven't tried to play an opengl fps and have compiz running at the same time
[02:09] <scguy318> cubesi1: no, and why?
[02:09] <d4rkmonkey> scguy318 I would be playing Halo 3 right now, cept I'm not allowed to be playing games until sunday because I got in a bunch of trouble, and I don't learn much useful things at school anyways,  I've been working on a website-type thing, but I procrastinate too much, and am still on the login script
[02:10] <mago> hola
[02:10] <scguy318> d4rkmonkey: im jel0s :P
[02:10] <mago> help
[02:10] <cubesi1> well i just don't see that point of 2 desktops if you can't have a 2nd mouse and keyboard
[02:10] <Nashu> ader10 : starting 2 X wont help much in this case...
[02:10] <d4rkmonkey> scguy318 lol anyways, I gotta stop being offtopic
[02:10] <scguy318> mago: hola, hablas espanol o portugues?
[02:10] <cubesi1> just for more workspace not for games
[02:10] <wii> w
[02:10] <Heygabe> The window doecorations go away when I enable "effects."
[02:10] <cubesi1> which is what i thought he was talking about
[02:10] <Fiveohthree> hey all
[02:10] <mago> espaol
[02:10] <scguy318> !es | mago
[02:10] <ubotu> mago: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:10] <IdleOne> LjL: wii is back ban evading
[02:10] <ader10> Nashu: Yes, it does. I know someone who does it.
[02:10] <LjL> IdleOne: no, i've unbanned him.
[02:10] <mago> ok
[02:11] <IdleOne> oh lol just saw that
[02:11] <Fiveohthree> so i just installed ubuntu and got apache.. now what do i do to publish pages online
[02:11] <mago> bay
[02:11] <scguy318> adios
[02:11] <LjL> wii: no. random. nonsense.
[02:11] <xp_killer> IdleOne: jelouse
[02:11] <cubesi1> fiveohthree buy a domain and point its dns to you
[02:11] <Nashu> ader10: tried ALTF1 startx, ALTF@ startx?
[02:11] <IdleOne> xp_killer: of?
[02:11] <cubesi1> or use your ip
[02:11] <LjL> IdleOne: ssssh.
[02:11] <xp_killer> IdleOne: mii coming back
[02:11] <Nashu> ader10: *ALTF2
[02:11] <ader10> Yes, it says a server is already running
[02:11] <Fiveohthree> yea  i gana use my ip for now.  but where do i put files ... like windows iss has root folder
[02:12] <LjL> xp_killer: didn't i just say "no random nonsense"?
[02:12] <smultron> astro76: i did a full reboot, now it's asking me for my wireless network password
[02:12] <jshipley> ! I got my wireless working for my server, thanks
[02:12] <ader10> (It doesn't matter if it's alt f1 or f2
[02:12] <IdleOne> xp_killer: yeah thats it!
[02:12] <astro76> smultron, you'll need to enter it the first time, you deleted your keyring
[02:12] <wayneward> i dont see ati driver in Restricted Driver Manager do i have to install the driver feom ati site 1st to see this?
[02:12] <cubesi1> yeah i dunno sorry
[02:12] <Heygabe> My window decorations go away when I enable "Visual effects."  Why!?!?
[02:12] <LjL> xp_killer: if you have an Ubuntu support question, ask. otherwise, have fun in #ubuntu-offtopic - last warning.
[02:12] <xp_killer> LjL: i didnt understand say things like u would want a child to understand
[02:12] <cubesi1> i will go there thanks ljl
[02:12] <LjL> xp_killer: i just did.
[02:12] <scguy318> wayneward: if you're using a legacy, then no point, the open-source driver would do
[02:12] <mikebot> Does anyone know how to fix this error with latex "! LaTeX Error: File `calligra.sty' not found."?
[02:13] <Fiveohthree> i have support qeustion
[02:13] <Fiveohthree> i t hink
[02:13] <scguy318> !ati | wayneward
[02:13] <ubotu> wayneward: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:13] <scguy318> !ask
[02:13] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:13] <Fiveohthree> need to find the root folder apache made
[02:13] <scguy318> jshipley: np
[02:13] <Theyain> does anyone have any idea as to why my Xorg keeps crash after I log in (takes a few minutes)
[02:13] <wayneward> will legacy do 3d like play wolfenstein etc
[02:13] <xp_killer> laters
[02:13] <Sable> Anytime I use an ubuntu updater (package manager, update manager, etc) either through the gui or command line, about 15 seconds after the download starts, I disconnect from the router, but the network manager still says I'm connected (I can't even ping my router) this happens with multiple cards.  any ideas?
[02:13] <Fiveohthree> should i try other room?
[02:13] <preaction> wayneward, wolfenstein isn't actually 3d
[02:14] <Fiveohthree> or apache channel?
[02:14] <Nashu> ubotu : how to start 2 X in the same time, have any idea?
[02:14] <Rawkit> how does one get rid of the text in toolbar (below the icons) in nautilus?
[02:14] <preaction> Fiveohthree, /var/www/htdocs if i'm not mistaken
[02:14] <smultron> astro76: now it's asking to make a new Keyring password
[02:14] <mungewell> Can anyone confirm which Win32 applications the Gutsy Live CD will contain?
[02:14] <wayneward> i mean games that require hardware acceleration sorry
[02:14] <scguy318> Nashu: ubotu is a bot :)
[02:14] <IdleOne> Nashu: ubotu is not human it is a bot
[02:14] <astro76> smultron, I can't remember if it should do that or not, try setting to your user password
[02:14] <jshipley> mungewell: Gutsy is supposed to include win32 applications?
[02:14] <IdleOne> !botsnack
[02:14] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[02:14] <Heygabe> Does anyone know how to make my Window Decorations come back when I enable Visual Effects?
[02:14] <scguy318> mungewell: zero
[02:14] <ader10> lol, yum
[02:14] <scguy318> mungewell: Win32 apps don't run natively :)
[02:14] <Nashu> ahaaa :D
[02:14] <ader10> somebody doesn't like RHEL I guess
[02:15] <smultron> astro76: ok, i'll try another reboot now
[02:15] <preaction> wayneward, no. you need the binary drivers
[02:15] <astro76> smultron, logging out and loggin in should be sufficient
[02:15] <Sable> Anytime I use an ubuntu updater (package manager, update manager, etc) either through the gui or command line, about 15 seconds after the download starts, I disconnect from the router, but the network manager still says I'm connected (I can't even ping my router) this happens with multiple cards.  any ideas?
[02:15] <IdleOne> Nashu: have you tried asking in #ubuntu-effects
[02:15] <scguy318> Sable: router malfunction? bad cable?
[02:15] <ader10> mungewell: You can use wine (winehq.org) to run win32 apps
[02:15] <mungewell> scguy318: the previous LiveCDs have contained a few (Firefox/OpenOffice) windows applications, to run on windows machines prior to installing Ubuntu.
[02:16] <scguy318> mungewell: ahhhh
[02:16] <scguy318> mungewell: the Windows portion
[02:16] <Nashu> ok guys... question for everyone else (meaning except ubotu) : how tostart 2 sessions of X server?
[02:16] <ader10> Oh, I know what mungwell is saying. If you pop the cd in while windows is on it has some apps to install
[02:16] <scguy318> mungewell: i'm not exactly sure
[02:16] <Nashu> going there right now
[02:16] <smultron> astro76: nope, asking for a password again
[02:17] <heartsblood> how do I force remove a package?
[02:17] <scguy318> Nashu: i recall there was a thread on Ubuntu Forums Gaming & Leisure that had instructions on how to spawn a separate X session
[02:17] <scguy318> Nashu: the pinned Wine stickyh
[02:17] <mungewell> the Beta ISO is only 550MB, so I guess they are leaving space....
[02:17] <heartsblood> ttf-opensymbol is causing apt to return errors
[02:17] <scguy318> heartsblood: I think that's a known bug
[02:17] <astro76> Nashu, an easy way is to edit your menu and enable the New Login item in System Tools (assuming your running regular Ubuntu/Gnome)
[02:17] <heartsblood> hmm
[02:17] <wayneward_> sorry got chopped of!
[02:17] <scguy318> heartsblood: im too lazy to search Launchpad
[02:17] <Sable> scguy: its a wireless USB adapter.  Everything works fine in windows and with other computers.  I can download files and do internet stuff jsut find, its only the ubuntu update tools that casee the problem
[02:17] <scguy318> !launchpad
[02:17] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[02:17] <mikebot> Does anyone know how to fix this error with latex: "! LaTeX Error: File `calligra.sty' not found."?
[02:17] <guru> how do i get the "[1554:4811] " formatted information from lspci?
[02:18] <astro76> smultron, have you done it according to these directions? http://staff.xiaoka.com/smoku/2007/05/17/password-hell-resolved/
[02:18] <scguy318> Sable: strange, perhaps your device can't handle the speed? :(
[02:18] <astro76> smultron, note, seahorse isn't strictly necessary but it's nice to have
[02:18] <heartsblood> why hello netsplit
[02:18] <Pelo> guru,  try searchhing for the error msg in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[02:18] <scguy318> !ops
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[02:18] <wayneward_> i tried the install from repositires but wont work for hardware acceleration so was going to try binary
[02:18] <LjL> !traffic
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[02:19] <warfaren> pc10.. that sucker flooded everyone out
[02:19] <guru> m...m...mega CTCP
[02:19] <warfaren> 02:18:29  Quit: PC10 n=isecretl@198.4.175.38 Remote closed the connection
[02:19] <Pelo> sigh ...
[02:19] <scguy318> heartsblood: not a netsplit, more like yet another flood attack
[02:19] <Pelo> I don'T see why sme ppl do this to support channels. if they want to mess around they should do it on dal.net
[02:19] <guru> Pelo: it's not an error message - i'm attempting to find the manufacturer and vendor information
[02:19] <Amaranth> *sigh*
[02:20] <scguy318> Pelo: the popularity count has something to do with it, anywayzzzz
[02:20] <preaction> note to self: be glad that xchat for aqua throttles CTCP VERSION responses...
[02:20] <Pelo> guru,  sorry maybe my help was not for you
[02:20] <warfaren> i dont see why everyone doesnt protect themselves from the dccsploit anyway:P
[02:20] <LadyNikon> Pelo: i would tell you but then it would be off topic
[02:20] <guru> Pelo: no problem
[02:20] <GuHHH> wtf?
[02:21] <preaction> warfaren, it wasn't the DCC exploit that was the problem, it's that some clients don't throttle responses to CTCP VERSION or other auto-response requests
[02:21] <warfaren> oh
[02:21] <nalioth> warfaren: this wasn't the dcc exploit (and more can be discussed in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:21] <Pelo> can we get back to supporting ppl now ?
[02:21] <LadyNikon> heh
[02:21] <warfaren> alright, sorry
[02:21] <LjL> !traffic
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[02:21] <mikebot> Does anyone know how to fix this error with latex: "! LaTeX Error: File `calligra.sty' not found."?
[02:22] <LjL> !traffic
[02:22] <Pelo> mikebot,   you were the one I was aming for earler,  do a forum search for the error msg , www.ubuntuforums.org
[02:22] <mikebot> Pelo: Thanks; I found something, but I couldn't understand it.
[02:22] <Pelo> mikebot,  gimme the short version of it and I'll try to help
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[02:23] <jscinoz> God damn i love Ubuntu + ext3
[02:23] <Pelo> LjL,   botabuse ?
[02:23] <jscinoz> recovered from a partial partition resize :)
[02:23] <mikebot> Pelo: Basically when I try to do latex blah.tex, I get that error.
[02:23] <mikebot> Pelo: And I don't know how to fix it.
[02:24] <ader10> ....
[02:24] <Pelo> mikebot,  I meant the short version of the tip you found in the forum
[02:24] <ader10> How do I get 2 sessions of X? I want to be able to use the WM features and play OpenGL games at the same time... help?
[02:24] <b0nza1> has anyone seen an error with dbus on the beta upgrade?
[02:24] <mikebot> Pelo: Oh, it says: A workaround can be done by manually putting calligra.sty, callig15.mf, and calligra.mf in the current directory or somewhere where LaTeX can find them.
[02:24] <Pelo> b0nza1,  we don'T hold with no beta in here you want the +1 chanel
[02:24] <mikebot> Pelo: But I don't want to have to put those files in every file I have tex files.
[02:25] <IdleOne> ader10: I think that question might be better suited for #ubuntu-effects
[02:25] <scguy318> Nashu: i recall there was a thread on Ubuntu Forums Gaming & Leisure that had instructions on how to spawn a separate X session, the Wine sticky
[02:25] <LjL> Pelo, lag.
[02:25] <LjL> Pelo: non-natural lag, for that matter.
[02:25] <b0nza1> mm k
[02:25] <ader10> IdleOne: Nobody's answered my question. In fact, nobody has said a thing in there for 5 minutes
[02:25] <Pelo> mikebot,  I suggest you look for a folder with .sty files already in them or for a lateX folder and put the files in question in there
[02:25] <scguy318> ader10: i recall there was a thread on Ubuntu Forums Gaming & Leisure that had instructions on how to spawn a separate X session, the Wine sticky
[02:26] <IdleOne> ader10: ask your question and be patient. asking every minute wont get you the answer any quicker and will annoy the rest of us
[02:26] <Pelo> LjL, regardless I made a note to keep an eye on you in case you do it again ,  consider yourself on notice ;-)
[02:26] <mikebot> Pelo: OK, I'll look for that; do you know where I can get those files in question?
[02:26] <Pelo> mikebot, google
[02:26] <mikebot> K, thx.
[02:27] <IdleOne> lol @ Pelo
[02:27] <dibblego> why does opening a PDF now produce a blank document in the PDF viewer?
[02:27] <Pelo> mikebot, they look to me like font files
[02:27] <Pelo> dibblego,  I think that is because it is the latest version of the format, I got that to on occasion
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[02:28] <dibblego> Pelo, no, these are documents that I've been able to open before
[02:28] <mikebot> Pelo: Bleh, 493 sty files.
[02:28] <Pelo> dibblego, try and move them around
[02:28] <dibblego> Pelo, move what around?
[02:29] <dibblego> Pelo, there is no scroll bar, since the document is empty
[02:29] <Pelo> mikebot,  but are they in the same folder ? or are some in a LateX related folder ?
[02:29] <Pelo> dibblego,  zoom ?
[02:29] <mikebot> Pelo: Lots of latex folders
[02:29] <Pelo> dibblego,  what does the page count show ?
[02:29] <dibblego> Pelo, Zoom In and Zoom Out and greyed out
[02:29] <dibblego> Pelo, the correct number of pages (4 in this case)
[02:29] <Jumbalia> I have to open terminal and type in sudo modprobe ndiswrapper everytime i start ubuntu so that my wirless works.  Is there a way to make that happen on startup
[02:30] <Pelo> dibblego,  try changing page
[02:30] <Dak0ta>  /msg nickserv link DaKoTa futpizde
[02:30] <Pelo> dibblego,  in other words  , mess with it a bit , see if it triggers soemthing
[02:30] <LjL> Dak0ta: change that password - and next time, avoid putting a space before the command.
[02:30] <Dak0ta> :)
[02:30] <Dak0ta> yeah
[02:30] <dibblego> Pelo, yeah, all I can do is use the menu at the top, which when the menu goes back, leaves a white background (changing page numbers does nothing)
[02:31] <Pelo> Jumbalia, menu > system > prefs > session >  3rd tab,  save session
[02:31] <dibblego> any other application to open a PDF?
[02:31] <heydabop> Emerald isn't fetching any themes.
[02:31] <Pelo> dibblego, not much else I can recommend,  exectp getting  acroreed from adobe
[02:31] <dibblego> Pelo, there is nothing else open source?
[02:31] <Pelo> heydabop, ask in #ubuntu-effects
[02:31] <Jumbalia> Pelo: I've already done that
[02:32] <heydabop> no one's there
[02:32] <Pelo> dibblego, not that I know , I donT use pdf s a lot
[02:32] <DShepherd> putting the command in /etc/rc.local would be better?
[02:32] <l_r> hello
[02:32] <heydabop> no active helper at least
[02:32] <DShepherd> Pelo, ^
[02:32] <dibblego> Pelo, thanks
[02:32] <l_r> i need the deb for vmware 2.0 for ubuntu. any idea?
[02:32] <charlienailed> hey everyone, is it possible to burn a cd inside the live cd environment if you only have one drive?
[02:32] <Jumbalia> Dshepherd: was that pointed towards me?
[02:32] <charlienailed> one cd burner i mean
[02:32] <cyph3x> hey guys... i just started my laptop up from hibernation and i couldnt connect to any wireless connections and my sound gave out.. any ideas?
[02:32] <Pelo> DShepherd, probably but I'M not leet enough to recommend stuff like that
[02:32] <kevinl> hello
[02:32] <IdleOne> l_r: packages.ubuntu.com
[02:33] <Pelo> Jumbalia,  I think DShepherd  's was intended for you
[02:33] <Jumbalia> k
[02:33] <kevinl> i have a compaq laptop. When i plug in headphones, it works but does not mute the speakers. Other people on airplanes dont like this. Any hints?
[02:33] <eric> #ubuntu+1  for gutsy upgrade channel right?
[02:33] <charlienailed> anyone? is it possible to eject the live cd while using it?
[02:33] <frostburn> !ftp
[02:33] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[02:33] <ader10> My question has remained unanswered for a long time...
[02:33] <DShepherd> Jumbalia, no. it was directed to Pelo. but you can try it out nonetheles
[02:34] <IdleOne> !patience | ader10
[02:34] <ubotu> ader10: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:34] <Pelo> ader10,  the skill set of the ppl in this channel changes regularly,  we don't know everything , try againg later , or try in the forum
[02:34] <bob12312> guys I need help
[02:34] <Fiveohthree> can anyone help me with some apache ip stuff. channel apache is dead...
[02:34] <DShepherd> charlienailed, i dont think you can burn a cd when there's a live cd in your only optical drive.
[02:34] <Pelo> bob12312,  we need questions
[02:34] <bob12312> I have 7.04 ubuntu and my internet works, and video works...but! My sound doesnt work
[02:35] <v_> TURN ON THE NEWS WAR WITH IRAN!
[02:35] <eric> could someone redirect me to the gutsy upgrade channel please please
[02:35] <astro76> !offtopic | v_
[02:35] <ubotu> v_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:35] <trdracer> guys im having trouble finishing this install.
[02:35] <eric> ubotu, thanks!
[02:35] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[02:35] <trdracer> saying something about the root file not being identified
[02:35] <IdleOne> !gutsy | eric
[02:35] <ubotu> eric: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[02:35] <v_> President is going to speak, they just launched a bombing campaign
[02:35] <trdracer> missile defense system
[02:35] <IdleOne> v_: #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:36] <eric> i love that bot its so friendly
[02:36] <bob12312> Guys! I put in lspci in the terminal...and my sound card showed up but in alsa only my headset shows up I want the sound through my speakers
[02:36] <IdleOne> !sound | bob12312
[02:36] <ubotu> bob12312: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:36] <drunkenmonkee>  can anyone here help me set up hpodder with cron. I don't understand the mail log...newbie here
[02:36] <l_r> IdleOne, i need the deb for vmware-player 2.x not the old 1.x in the repos
[02:37] <IdleOne> l_r: if it isnt in the repo then there is no deb
[02:37] <bob12312> IdleOne I tried that, but only my headset shows up (theres only one option in change device box)
[02:37] <trdracer> anyone please?
[02:37] <DShepherd> l_r, have you tried googling?
[02:37] <trdracer> having trouble on the partitioning
[02:37] <l_r> DShepherd, yes, there's nothing useful for ubuntu
[02:37] <IdleOne> l_r: maybe debian has a deb for it but it might not work with ubuntu
[02:37] <l_r> why don't they update vmware?
[02:37] <usuario> usuario
[02:38] <DShepherd> l_r, who knows?
[02:38] <l_r> god
[02:38] <usuario> vai todo mundo tomar no c
[02:38] <trdracer> hello
[02:38] <trdracer> "No root file system is defined.
[02:38] <trdracer> Please correct this from the partitioning menu"
[02:39] <usuario> fokyou
[02:39] <bob12312> Guys can someone help me my soundcards not showing up in alsa...I cant hear a thing on linux!!
[02:39] <l_r> bob12312, try to increase the volume
[02:40] <a90lfredo> wooooooooooooooow
[02:40] <threethirty> bob12312: what sound card do you have
[02:40] <a90lfredo> ke es esto?
[02:40] <bob12312> l_r,  I did..its not showing up in sound options
[02:40] <ader10> bob12312: is the sound card new?
[02:40] <l_r> bob12312, or check if thesound card is realty present
[02:40] <a90lfredo> what's that?
[02:40] <bob12312> I have a creative xfi
[02:40] <trdracer> can someone please help.
[02:40] <trdracer> No root file system is defined.
[02:40] <trdracer> Please correct this from the partitioning menu
[02:40] <bob12312> its at least 2 years old
[02:40] <DShepherd> trdracer, if you have time..watch a movie.. http://screencasts.ubuntu.com/MoS2007/09_Installing_Ubuntu_Part_1 -- it might help
[02:40] <DShepherd> ok. guys.. I am out. bbl
[02:40] <overclucker> bob, is there anything sound related in /dev ?
[02:41] <scguy318> trdracer: set the mount point of a partition to /
[02:41] <trdracer> im on ubuntu disc right now.
[02:41] <bob12312> overclucker theres so many files in there I cant tell
[02:41] <Pelo> drunkenmonkee, I recently discovered  gcrontab , iinstall it , it's a gui frontend for cron , it makes it easy to create the cron lines
[02:41] <marko-ubuntu> bob12312-  xfi doesnt worx in linux yet, there are no drivers released
[02:41] <bob12312> overclucker,  it does show up in lspci
[02:42] <bob12312> Nooooooooooooooooooooooo
[02:42] <heartsblood> is there any difference between apt-get purge and apt-get remove?
[02:42] <trdracer> still doesnt let me passed this./
[02:42] <scguy318> heartsblood: slight, purge removes all configuration files
[02:42] <bob12312> So am I screwed?
[02:42] <trdracer> oh my goodness this is so frustrating...thought it would be easier...i dont know whats going on.
[02:42] <scguy318> trdracer: did you edit a partition, and give it /?
[02:42] <Pelo> bob12312,  did you do the !sound  stuff ?
[02:42] <scguy318> trdracer: and you dont have to use manual partitioning
[02:42] <trdracer> its on manual
[02:42] <bob12312> pelo how do i do it
[02:42] <trdracer> im screwed here..
[02:43] <Pelo> !sound | bob12312  read this
[02:43] <ubotu> bob12312  read this: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:43] <trdracer> ext3 /
[02:43] <scguy318> trdracer: have you done what I suggested?
[02:43] <bob12312> Pelo I read it .. my device is not in there tho
[02:43] <trdracer> well how can i view the video?
[02:43] <bob12312> its not in alsa at all
[02:43] <trdracer> idk how im on ubuntu now
[02:43] <bob12312> only my headset is
[02:43] <Pelo> bob12312,  read further
[02:43] <scguy318> trdracer: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/installing#partitioning
[02:43] <a90lfredo> HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY, ANYONE OF YOU TALK SPANISH?
[02:43] <marko-ubuntu> bob12312-  http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=857&num=1
[02:43] <scguy318> trdracer: as I said, select a partition in the installer
[02:43] <Pelo> !es | a90lfredo
[02:43] <ubotu> a90lfredo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:43] <scguy318> trdracer: edit it, and select / for mount point
[02:44] <overclucker> a90lfredo: i wish i did
[02:44] <bob12312> So looks like I have no sound for the time being
[02:44] <JCDG> hello, i need help to connect my pc to a wireless lan...
[02:44] <leonel> a90lfredo: #ubuntu-es
[02:44] <JCDG> i don't know how
[02:44] <bob12312> My headset works though...but not with VLC
[02:44] <Pelo> !wifi | JCDG
[02:44] <ubotu> JCDG: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:44] <overclucker> bob12312: get a crap sound card, off the list
[02:44] <Pelo> bob12312, you probably need to select the correct sound device in vlc prefs
[02:45] <scguy318> trdracer: successs?
[02:45] <j_ack> bob12312, what says  " asoundconf list "   is your card there listed
[02:45] <scguy318> trdracer: Irvine, California? I used to live in San Jose
[02:46] <bob12312> J_ack it just says "headset"
[02:46] <nunofgs> OMG! HELP! I was doing the upgrade to gutsy (with update-manager -d) and it gave an error in one of the packages and said my system could be broken. Doing apt-get dist-upgrade says that there are no packages to install now!
[02:46] <bob12312> I was informed that linux drivers for my card are coming "soon"
[02:46] <scguy318> !gutsy | nunofgs
[02:46] <ubotu> nunofgs: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[02:46] <j_ack> bob12312, thats not good......
[02:46] <bob12312> Pelo where is the prefs to select my headset in VLC
[02:46] <LjL> !gutsy > nunofgs    (nunofgs, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:46] <nunofgs> k, thx
[02:47] <a90lfredo> I HAVE UBUNTU, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO INTALL PROGRAMS DIRECT FROM MY COMPUTER, IT'S SO HARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:47] <Pelo> bob12312,  I donT' use vlc there is usualy a tab for audio and one for video
[02:47] <scguy318> !es | a90lfredo
[02:47] <ubotu> a90lfredo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:47] <scguy318> !caps
[02:47] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[02:47] <a90lfredo> PLEASE, SOMEONE, HELPME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
[02:47] <Pelo> !caps | a90lfredo
[02:47] <ubotu> a90lfredo: please see above
[02:47] <bob12312> pelo i see the audio tab but not to select a device
[02:47] <Pelo> a90lfredo,  http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[02:47] <bob12312> anyone use vLc my headset doesnt work in vlc
[02:47] <Pelo> bob12312, look depeer is all I can recommend
[02:48] <scguy318> bob12312: mebbe set output to ALSA?
[02:48] <trdracer> ohhhhhhhhhhhhh ok thanks guys
[02:48] <trdracer> wasnt so hard im just an idiot
[02:48] <bob12312> Pelo..the weird thing is. it was working before but it stopped when i restarted the prog
[02:48] <scguy318> trdracer: np
[02:48] <trdracer> installing system now
[02:48] <Pelo> bob12312,  I can'T realy help any further sorry
[02:48] <XdorotaX> when in my home directory with the hidden option off, i find a strange file.. it's named "core.7240", the type says it's program crash data, and it's a whopping 167.3MB of data. 1)What is this? 2)Is it safe to delete?
[02:49] <bob12312> scguy318 were is that setting
[02:49] <craigbass1976> apt-get install nvu    Is there something wrong with that?  I'm trying to get that wysiwyg editor I used in dapper
[02:49] <Pici> XdorotaX: Its debugging data from a program crash, its safe to delete.
[02:49] <Pici> !nvu | craigbass1976
[02:49] <ubotu> craigbass1976: kompozer is a WYSIWYG HTML editor for easily creating web pages, and the continuation of the dead Nvu project.  It will be in the Ubuntu repos for 7.10 ("gutsy"); meanwhile for other versions add the following to your /etc/apt/sources.list:  "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/tonyyarusso/ubuntu {edgy,feisty} universe"  (pick your release and list it without brackets, and no quotes)
[02:49] <Pelo> XdorotaX, I would say yes
[02:49] <XdorotaX> thankyou, Pelo and Pici
[02:49] <Pici> craigbass1976: Read that, it was removed from the repos for edgy and feisty.
[02:50] <craigbass1976> Pici, thanks
[02:50] <unagi> anyone here use screenlets or use maya?
[02:50] <acoustyk> anyone have an idea on how to get OpenOffice to read docx files?
[02:50] <Pelo> unagi, it is better to ask a specific qustion
[02:50] <speart> hello
[02:50] <Pelo> acoustyk, ask in #openoffice.org
[02:51] <Pelo> !hi | speart
[02:51] <ubotu> speart: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:51] <overclucker> unagi, do you like unagi ?
[02:51] <unagi> anyone know where i can find a nice notepad screenlet, anyone have a problem with maya crashing when using buffer curves
[02:51] <unagi> and yes i love unagi
[02:51] <j_ack> bob12312, asoundconf set-default-card headset
[02:51] <Pelo> unagi, did you look at that is available on the screenlets website ?
[02:52] <scguy318> bob12312: options, output I think
[02:52] <tsukasa> okay guys i need some serious bash mojo. I have a 4.2GB log file i want to chop a section out of
[02:52] <Pelo> unagi,  you can also try tomboy but it's a panel app not a screenlet
[02:52] <tsukasa> i know what to search for to find beginning and ending sections
[02:52] <tsukasa> so i start with a cat of the file and pipe it into a grep to find the first section...
[02:52] <tsukasa> then what?
[02:52] <bob12312> j_ack thanks but it doest seem to have done anything
[02:53] <mikebot> Can someone please help me get latex working in ubuntu?
[02:53] <Ben325e> hey guys and gals, I setup an ubuntu box for my first time today... I've installed it on a PIII 550 w/ 256 megs ram and 13gig hd I got off of FreeCycle.  I'm short a router for the moment, so I want to know if I can get internet on my ubuntu box in the following way:  Setup cable modem via usb to windows box, use ethernet connection between ubuntu and windows boxes via samba to share...
[02:53] <Ben325e> ...internet connection.  Sorry for length.
[02:53] <unagi> i did look at screenlets.org and im specifically looking for a screenlet notepad
[02:53] <unagi> better than the one that comes with it
[02:53] <underwatercow> if I close firestarter, will that prevent iptables from affecting programs that use the internet?
[02:53] <scguy318> Ben325e: not sure why you would use Samba for internet connection sharing, but
[02:53] <scguy318> Ben325e: i guess it sounds alright
[02:53] <scguy318> Ben325e: can't you hook the Ubuntu direct to the cable modem?
[02:53] <gotama> Hi! Where can I get some information on how to configure ltsp 5. It seems that lts.conf is no longer the main configuration file.
[02:54] <scguy318> !ltsp
[02:54] <ubotu> LTSP is the Linux Terminal Server Project, which adds thin-client support to Linux servers. See chapter 3 of the !edubuntuhandbook, http://www.ltsp.org and/or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Terminal_Server_Project
[02:54] <bob12312> scguy318 can you clarify...i see a LOT of options in output
[02:54] <Ben325e> scguy - I read that samba was the network config for linux ---> windows.... what's the better alternative?
[02:54] <unagi> huh?
[02:54] <PirateHead> I'm running Ubuntu Edgy and I have an ATI graphics card with the nonfree driver. Is there any way for me to enable desktop glitz?
[02:54] <marko-ubuntu> bob12312-  what xfi card do you have ?   i found a beta driver for Fatal1ty
[02:54] <Pelo> unagi,  try google or gnome-looks.org
[02:55] <unagi> i have
[02:55] <unagi> i didnt know if there was an untapped resource or if anyone wrote one themselves
[02:55] <Pelo> unagi, then that is all you get , screenlets is their own project that you get is what they have , or you can try making your own
[02:55] <bob12312> I have a xtreme music i think
[02:55] <unagi> i dont understand python
[02:56] <mindrape> in Soviet Russia python understands you.
[02:56] <riotkittie> :D
[02:57] <unagi> that wasnt a bad joke
[02:57] <bob12312> My headset works in the "test sound" box in the sound config utility but not in VLC when playing a movie
[02:57] <unagi> that was a hilarious family guy reference
[02:57] <bob12312> I hear the beep sounds when i hit test
[02:57] <unagi> ^5
[02:57] <unagi> lol
[02:57] <overclucker> mindrape, i thought was perl not python. . .
[02:57] <bob12312> but in VLC I see just the video
[02:57] <unagi> mmmmm smirnov
[02:57] <no0tic> hi all, I have installed aiccu to create an IPv6 tunnel over IPv4 offered by sixxs.net; what kind of tunnel it's better, heartbeat o AYIYA?
[02:57] <marko-ubuntu> check this site bob12312 i think u will find the driver herer soon :)  http://se.europe.creative.com/support/downloads/
[02:58] <zick> hi! i'm encrypting swap partition and it works like a charm. hibernating works as well, but there's a problem with resuming... where to put the truecrypt cmd to decrypt the swapp so that the system can be resumed from there? ideas?
[02:58] <PirateHead> I'm running Ubuntu Edgy and I have an ATI graphics card with the nonfree driver. Is there any way for me to enable desktop glitz? When I use the "Desktop Effects" option, it says that the "Composite extension is not available" -- is there some way I can enable it?
[02:58] <unagi> is 'signal 11 (unknown signal) a linux error?
[02:58] <PirateHead> I've been saying I'm running Edgy, but I'm really running Feisty. Duh.
[02:58] <bob12312> thanks marko-ubuntu
[02:58] <unagi> ew desktop effects
[02:58] <unagi> yum compiz
[02:59] <PirateHead> unagi: desktop effects == compiz
[02:59] <bob12312> gotta go thanks for the help everyone
[02:59] <overclucker> zick: truecrypt does swap?
[02:59] <speart> anyone knows easy and _working_ samba server?
[02:59] <zick> overclucker, sure
[02:59] <Pelo> PirateHead, you'd have to ask in #ubuntu-effects
[02:59] <unagi> i dumbed down retarded version of compiz maybe
[02:59] <thesaint4444> how big should /tmp be when setting up a new install?
[02:59] <unagi> compiz-fusion is so yum
[02:59] <PirateHead> I'll try that, Pelo. Thanks.
[03:00] <Ben325e> looking for better alternative than samba to share cable modem from Windows box to my brandspankin new linux box...  any takers?
[03:00] <Pelo> overclucker, there is a #samba channel
[03:00] <cyph3x> hibernation just killed my wireless and my sound.... any ideas?
[03:00] <PirateHead> Ben325e: what makes you think there's something better than the system designed from the ground up to deliver linux-windows connectivity?
[03:01] <Ben325e> PirateHead:  scguy318>	Ben325e: not sure why you would use Samba for internet connection sharing, but
[03:01] <Ben325e> 	<scguy318>	Ben325e: i guess it sounds alright
[03:01] <zick> so any ideas? i tried to google but found only stuff about dm-crypt (using initramfs) but i think it doesn't help since it relies on the crypttab etc.
[03:01] <Ben325e> 	<scguy318>	Ben325e: can't you hook the Ubuntu direct to the cable modem?
[03:01] <overclucker> zick: i'm a big fan of truecrypt, however, hybernation not so much
[03:01] <MarcN> Ben325e: get a cheap linksys or other 4 port/firewall/router
[03:01] <thesaint4444> anyone know how big /tmp should be generally?
[03:01] <PirateHead> Ben325e: why not just use a standard router and plug both your machines into it, letting DHCP handle the rest?
[03:01] <unagi> when is gutsy out
[03:02] <PirateHead> Ben325e: what MarcN said. =D
[03:02] <gnomefreak> unagi: join #ubuntu+1 and read the topic
[03:02] <overclucker> zick: cool ideea, tc swap
[03:02] <Pelo> thesaint4444,  why don'T you let the installer do that bit , you donT' need to make seperate partitions for every folder
[03:03] <Ben325e> I'm short a router at the moment. (actually, I moved, and now it's hidden in some box in the attic... :)  just wondering if it was feasible to use the cable modem with usb to windows box, and then direct ethernet to linux box w/ samba...
[03:03] <thesaint4444> Pelo: hi, I would but not sure how to use the installer, if you just leave those folders will the installer set them up in / for you?
[03:03] <zick_> overclucker, ok :) myself, i like the the ability to hibernate since i usually have lots of work "going on"
[03:03] <netham45> anyone know a program I can use to view my smart data?
[03:03] <PirateHead> Ben325e: basically, you're asking how to share your internet connection using your Windows machine as a router -- and for that, you would want to use Samba. What I'm saying is that it's much easier with a router that will set you back 15 bucks.
[03:03] <zick_> got disconnected :/ anyone answered my question?
[03:04] <Pelo> thesaint4444, yes,  you realy just need to make a / a /swap and a /home if you realy want to do manual partitionning
[03:04] <cyph3x> berb
[03:04] <overclucker> zick_: nope,
[03:04] <MarcN> Ben325e: samba is for file sharing. you'd need to setup some windows networking sharing (beats me) and have a 2nd nic on that windows b ox to plug into the linux box.  Spend $25 instead.
[03:04] <thesaint4444> Pelo: ok .. cool i get the idea, thanks...
[03:04] <zick_> zick, ok, thanks for telling :)
[03:04] <Ben325e> I follow ya piratehead... just didn't wanna go out tonight, and didn't know if it was easy or not... but gotcha.... router it is
[03:05] <PirateHead> Ben325e: or, as it were, just dig through your boxes. I'm pretty sure it can be done, it's just not trivial. =D
[03:05] <netham45> Im getting [ 1187.829723]  ATA: abnormal status 0x7F on port 0x0001f407
[03:05] <netham45> and errors of the such in my dmesgh
[03:05] <TheMoebius> i just formatted a new hard drive as ext3 with gparted, but its now showing up on my desktop. how can i get it there?
[03:05] <Pelo> thesaint4444, usualy  5-10 gig for / ,  2x RAM for /swap and the rest for /home
[03:05] <thesaint4444> Pelo: and any other say data directories for example if you needed them?
[03:05] <ihavenoname>  Hi!
[03:05] <netham45> any ideas as to what could be causing it?
[03:06] <PirateHead> There isn't any traffic in #ubuntu-effects -- if it okay if I ask an effects question in here?
[03:06] <hinogi> do ya need a swap if ya have 4gb ram?
[03:06] <thedash> where can I set the defaults for stuff like alsamixer ?
[03:06] <Pelo> thesaint4444, they will all be put in / ,   I only ever heard of hardcore devs that make a buch of seperate folders/paertitons , because they want to be able to change and reinstall suff  very specificaly whitout messing other stuff but they realy know what they are doing and why
[03:06] <PirateHead> hinogi: yes, you should still use swap. I would suggest that you use about 2 gigs of swap, in fact -- it's nice to have that extra space.
[03:06] <zick_> overclucker, but the resuming from the hibernate would work well too only if i figured out a way to make truecrypt decrypt the swap during resume :)
[03:07] <Pelo> thesaint4444,  in other words , if you realy needed to make a bunch of them you would already know why and how
[03:07] <thesaint4444> Pelo: what is the best way to set up the system if you had 5 large raid disks?
[03:07] <PirateHead> TheMoebius: I don't understand your question. Do you want it to show up on your desktop, or do you not?
[03:07] <overclucker> zick_: that would kinda defeaat it's purpose though. . .hmm
[03:08] <Pelo> thesaint4444, most slightly leet user find it nice to have their /home on a seperate partition so their settings are safe when they reinstall
[03:08] <Theyain> Help, xorg keeps crashing.  Its now even crashing while in fail safe mode.
[03:08] <cyph3x> when is gutsy going to be released?
[03:08] <Theyain> 14 days
[03:08] <PirateHead> Theyain: what version of Ubuntu?
[03:08] <Theyain> 7.04
[03:08] <PirateHead> cyph3x: join #ubuntu+1 and look at the header
[03:08] <zick_> overclucker, using the password entered by user of course. :)
[03:09] <overclucker> Theyain: and how many minutes?
[03:09] <Pelo> thesaint4444, I have   / , /swap / home on one hdd and a /download on a seperate hdd , that I can trash if I want/need to ,
[03:09] <netham45> anyone know a program I can use to view smart data?
[03:09] <Pelo> cyph3x, 18
[03:09] <PirateHead> Theyain: have you tried doing a dpkg-reconfigure to reset the x server?
[03:09] <overclucker> zick_: ahh woudl do the trick
[03:09] <Theyain> about.... hm two or three when not in fail safe.  when in fail safe.. I would say about thirty minutes
[03:09] <PirateHead> Theyain: is it spilling any error output?
[03:09] <Pelo> netham45, check in synaptic or in add/remove
[03:09] <Theyain> no
[03:09] <Theyain> Its just a total freeze
[03:09] <zick_> overclucker, actually i have a setup which has a keyfile for the swap partition on encrypted /home partition :) that way i can use swap when i decrypt the home (i have now set it up so in the rc.local)
[03:10] <Theyain> also, this just popped up and all the icons just changed
[03:10] <Theyain> Settings Daemon
[03:10] <Theyain> crap
[03:10] <mcphail> netham45: smartctl
[03:10] <PirateHead> Theyain: did you just do a dist-upgrade?
[03:10] <overclucker> slick zick_
[03:10] <zick_> overclucker, hehe thanks :)
[03:10] <Theyain> The GNOME Settings Daemon did not start on log in.  And no
[03:10] <kevinly> i'm just wondering how I should partition up my ~120gb harddrive for a winxp/ubuntu dual boot
[03:11] <PirateHead> Theyain: how about dpkg-reconfigure?
[03:11] <kevinly> ubuntu will be my primary OS but i want to skip back into xp when needed
[03:11] <kevinly> for let's say 60gb of mp3s, should they be partitioned as fat32?
[03:11] <scguy318> kevinly: i guess mm 20 GB for XP, 5 GB for Ubuntu /, the rest for /home?
[03:11] <Pelo> kevinl,  is xp already installed ?
[03:11] <kevinly> kevinly: yeah
[03:11] <scguy318> kevinly: you can partition as NTFS, since you can use NTFS-3G for r/w
[03:11] <thesaint4444> Pelo: thanks...
[03:11] <PirateHead> kevinly: I'd suggest a 60G NTFS partition for Windows, a 40G FAT32 partition for Home / My Documents, 512M to 2G of Linux Swap, and the rest as ext3
[03:12] <overclucker> zick_: my /home is on tmpfs, heheh. . .
[03:12] <wers> I want to remove my "hda4" partition icon from my desktop but I do not want to remove other volume icons (like for my thumb drive). How do I do it?
[03:12] <scguy318> PirateHead: but who needs FAT32? :)
[03:12] <zick_> overclucker, hehe nice ;)
[03:12] <kevinly> will there be a noticeable lag for ubuntu dealing with ntfs format???
[03:12] <PirateHead> scguy318: I still like fat32 for sequential data that doesn't change much, such as music folders.
[03:13] <thesaint4444> Pelo: should /home be a logical or primary partition if i was going to have a seperate one for it?
[03:13] <thedash> where can I set the defaults for stuff like alsamixer ?
[03:13] <overclucker> zick_: it works if you configure things globally instead of per user
[03:13] <scguy318> PirateHead: ah
[03:13] <andy_33> wers, umm.. I actually think that you can't remove it from the desktop unless you unmount the volume
[03:13] <Pelo> thesaint4444, your choice mine is primary,   but I don'T kwow what raid would allow, I know a hdd can only have 4 primary partitions
[03:13] <PirateHead> thesaint4444: totally up to you. logical partitions let you play some neat tricks in the future, but they aren't necessary.
[03:14] <kevinly> fat32 partitions are r/w from both xp and ubuntu?
[03:14] <PirateHead> kevinly: correct.
[03:15] <PirateHead> kevinly: fat16, fat32, and NTFS are read and write on both Linux and Windows.
[03:15] <silent> wazzzzzzzaaap
[03:15] <scguy318> nm u
[03:15] <silent> headache from a lab earlier
[03:15] <silent> room full of c02 and he
[03:15] <riotkittie> but NTFS is not r/w enabled by default on current versions of ubuntu
[03:15] <zick_> overclucker, yeah :) may i ask what for do you use such an interesting setup?
[03:15] <wers> andy_33, I want the drive to be mounted.. just dont like the icon
[03:16] <silent> last I heard ntfs wasn't safe for writing in linux yet, has that changed?
[03:16] <unagi> i write to ntfs all the time
[03:16] <silent> unagi, you crazy
[03:16] <PirateHead> silent: it's been a long time since any data corruption errors have cropped up in ntfs-3g
[03:16] <Pelo> wers,  just right click the current drive icon,  select properties,  see the icon at the top ? click and change
[03:16] <silent> PirateHead, well no one told me... gosh
[03:17] <silent> PirateHead, regardless... ntfs is a steaming pile of microsoft
[03:17] <PirateHead> silent: agree. ntfs-3g only useful for compatibility purposes.
[03:17] <mindrape> unagi - does ntfs ever write back?
[03:17] <Pelo> silent,  we do not bash MS in this channel,  there is no need
[03:17] <wers> Pelo.. that's not what I meant.. I want no hda4 icon on my desktop
[03:17] <marko-ubuntu> silent- only problem with ntfs writing with ntfs-3g, it is pretty slow, because it works in user space
[03:17] <reya276> my ubuntu desktop won't show I get the gdm login screen but then it boots me to the terminal
[03:17] <unagi> why am i crazy?
[03:17] <silent> Pelo, I did not equate MS with poop... or maybe I did
[03:17] <Pelo> wers,  mount it to /mnt then , not to /media
[03:17] <scguy318> marko-ubuntu: not really
[03:18] <reya276> it just happen
[03:18] <scguy318> silent: NTFS-3G FUSE driver is very much stable
[03:18] <unagi> reya276: what happens when you sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[03:18] <wers> ohh.. thanks
[03:18] <reya276> I have rebooted several times and nothing
[03:18] <PirateHead> silent, we do not bash poop in this channel, there is no need
[03:18] <wers> so stuff under /mnt dont appear on the desktop
[03:18] <reya276> gdm restarts and I get the login
[03:18] <scguy318> PirateHead: not to mention it probably won't execute ;)
[03:18] <mindrape> silent - bashing anything is pointless... its all opinions.  We deal in facts and reality here.  :P
[03:18] <silent> PirateHead, hehe, I'll look into that ntfs writing though... I would like to run some programs from my ntfs partition
[03:19] <unagi> if i could find a suitable 3d camera tracking program for linux and decent tv tuner support i wouldnt need windows
[03:19] <reya276> it says starting Gnome display manager but that is it
[03:19] <constantine> Is there some way to get an onscreen keyboard in GDM?
[03:19] <silent> mindrape, reality is defined by perception
[03:19] <reya276> and it stays in the terminal
[03:19] <zengen> #ubuntu+1
[03:19] <silent> mindrape, perception is unique to individuals
[03:19] <J^son> my ubuntu desktop has a printer connected to it that it sees and recognizes but print jobs just sit in spool... what should I do?
[03:19] <Pelo> constantine,  check in synaptic or in add/remove , there is one I am sure of it
[03:19] <silent> mindrape, and MS sucks
[03:19] <scguy318> baah, enough with the OT
[03:19] <riotkittie> reya276: is there anything interesting in your .xsessionerrors file? :|
[03:19] <overclucker> zick_: well, you could call it a strong belief the importance of security policy, or paranoia both, appear to be applicable. . .
[03:19] <scguy318> !printers
[03:19] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[03:20] <Silverwolf> piratehead, you there?
[03:20] <silent> J^son, you have to plug the printer in
[03:20] <Pelo> J^son,  make sure the printer is on and online with paper in it and that the pinter manager is not paused
[03:20] <scguy318> J6son: not sure, but if you haven't looked at those, do so
[03:20] <Silverwolf> Its Theyain
[03:20] <PirateHead> Silverwolf: what's up?
[03:20] <constantine> Pelo: The computer has no keyboard... I'll admit it's a rather unusual installation.
[03:20] <scguy318> silent: he did say it was connected
[03:20] <Silverwolf> Had to log into a windows account and install Chatzilla
[03:20] <Silverwolf> on a nother computer.  Xorg crashed again
[03:20] <J^son> silent and pelo: check on those
[03:20] <riotkittie> let's not bash microsoft.
[03:20] <silent> constantine, my server has no keyboard. I do all maintenance through ssh
[03:20] <reya276> unagi: when I do that I get a the gdm login screen but when I enter username and pass, I get a small terminal screen at the lefthand top corner of the screen
[03:20] <Pelo> constantine, can't you get one temporarely while you setup the onscreen keyboard ?
[03:20] <scguy318> !ot
[03:21] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:21] <kevinly> i have a dapper drake cd right here, would it be foolish to install from that and then upgrade rather than download an iso and burn it
[03:21] <Silverwolf> Pirate?
[03:21] <PirateHead> Silverwolf: I'm not sure what the best option for you is. Have you already tried dpkg-reconfigure to reset the xorg configuration?
[03:21] <scguy318> !upgrade
[03:21] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:21] <scguy318> kevinly: you may wish to look at those notes
[03:21] <silent> kevinly, getting a new distro cd decreases your chances of upgrade problems by 100%
[03:21] <Silverwolf> yes, and right after that it crashed
[03:22] <Pelo> kevinl,  you'l have to go throught 4 upgrades to get to the latest,  it would be eaiser to get the iso
[03:22] <kevinly> ah
[03:22] <Silverwolf> I even tried to reinstall Xorg through Packet Manager
[03:22] <unagi> you mean i have to reformat to upgrade to gutsy?
[03:22] <constantine> Pelo: It's a bizarre sony tablet type thing, but I will try to find one that will work. I just was curious as to whether that was there, as I had heard some time ago about a blueprint concerning the matter.
[03:22] <riotkittie> silent: if he's dist-upgrading from a clean install, he should be ok
[03:22] <J^son> any other ideas?
[03:22] <PirateHead> Silverwolf: um... restore from latest backup? :-\
[03:22] <silent> unagi, you dont _have_ to format
[03:22] <unagi> to upgrade without problems i have to format?
[03:22] <silent> riotkittie, usually
[03:23] <Silverwolf> I am not sure If I have a backup
[03:23] <Pelo> constantine,  I'm checking in synaptic right now for a package to recommend , hold on
[03:23] <RoboticTao> unagi:  No, you don't
[03:23] <Silverwolf> and reinstalling is not an option
[03:23] <TheMoebius> how do I change the permissions on a drive? when i double click it in the computer window to mount it, i have to enter my root pass because it says access is restricted
[03:23] <silent> riotkittie, of course theory and practice are well-known for their incompatibility
[03:23] <unagi> im lost then lol
[03:23] <Pelo> constantine,  there is one called gok
[03:23] <unagi> so i can upgrade from my current state with no problems and without losing anything?
[03:23] <silent> unagi, what are you running?
[03:23] <riotkittie> kevinly: otoh, it would be faster to just DL and burn the iso of whatever version you're hoping to get to... depending on your connection
[03:24] <unagi> fiesty
[03:24] <RoboticTao> unagi:  sudo sed -e 's/\sfeisty/ gutsy/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:24] <RoboticTao> sudo apt-get update
[03:24] <RoboticTao> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:24] <scguy318> RoboticTao: isn't that a seriously bad idea
[03:24] <silent> kevinly, I just download debian and download what I need. Ubuntu comes with too much... everything
[03:24] <Silverwolf> PH?
[03:24] <nomaS> hi, somebody how to install a gtk theme to make different the desktop an icons ?
[03:24] <PirateHead> Silverwolf: I'm typing a message to you. Hold your horses a ding dang second. =D
[03:25] <riotkittie> except for me. because i'm lazy. :D
[03:25] <Silverwolf> Hehe, sorry
[03:25] <PirateHead> Silverwolf: and just-not-using-x isn't an option either. If those obvious things aren't working, it's beyond my knowledge about tinkering with X. From here, I'd try to get a response on the Ubuntu forums and maybe send an email to the xorg mailing list asking about a good way to deal with highly broken x installation.
[03:25] <scguy318> unagi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades?highlight=%28Gutsy%29%7C%28Release%29%7C%28notes%29
[03:25] <unagi> i dont know exactly how to backup a full install of ubuntu
[03:25] <unagi> ive tried many different things
[03:25] <scguy318> unagi: well,
[03:25] <scguy318> unagi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades
[03:26] <silent> unagi, just reinstall... you wont lose much
[03:26] <silent> back up your personal files
[03:26] <MarcN> unagi: I usually just back up /home/$USER
[03:26] <unagi> yea you dont understand
[03:26] <riotkittie> unagi: all you want to back up is  ~  really
[03:26] <RoboticTao> unagi:update-manager -d
[03:26] <unagi> backing up my personal files and progs and reinstalling them is a HUUUUUGE hassle
[03:26] <PirateHead> Silverwolf: make sure you do a backup at this point, to save your personal files and important configurations. Broken x is one thing, broken filesystem is harder yet to fix, and so on.
[03:26] <unagi> and compiz-fusion settings
[03:27] <unagi> and sources list
[03:27] <Silverwolf> Don't know how though through Terminal
[03:27] <silent> unagi, you'll probably need different versions of your current software anyway
[03:27] <vbabiy> hey guys is there any tool to restore deleted files for ubuntu
[03:27] <riotkittie> yea. srsly. cp -aR ~ /target  and cp -aR /target ~ is soooo much work :|
[03:27] <unagi> im talking more or less about maya
[03:27] <constantine> Pelo, thanks
[03:27] <unagi> and i have to alter xorg.conf
[03:27] <unagi> and i have to have my scripts to run them
[03:27] <Pelo> constantine,  best of luck with it , I'm tring it out and I can't figure it out
[03:27] <silent> riotkittie, i honestly cant believe you typed that so fast.... you need a medal
[03:27] <riotkittie> vbabiy: if you rm'ed them from the CL no.  :|
[03:27] <fineghal> clear
[03:27] <riotkittie> silent:  :D
[03:27] <Travis> does the ubuntu server edition have php 4 AND php 5?
[03:27] <zick_> overclucker, ahh. i understand. :)
[03:27] <vbabiy> riotkittie: well what if it was using gnome
[03:28] <MarcN> vbabiy: how did you delete them?  nautilus or rm from the command line?
[03:28] <vbabiy> nautilus
[03:28] <riotkittie> vbabiy: then they should be in your trash bin.
[03:28] <vbabiy> well they have been removed from the trash
[03:28] <MarcN> vbabiy: if they have been removed or rm'ed you are pretty much out of luck.
[03:28] <vbabiy> is there any way to use a tool like r-tools for windows
[03:28] <Pelo> constantine, gtkeyboard also
[03:29] <MarcN> vbabiy:  there are some tools, but assume that you haven't created any new files.
[03:29] <vbabiy> MarcN: any names
[03:29] <MarcN> vbabiy: just restore from your backups.  You do backup, right?
[03:29] <silent> for entertainment I used to watch movies. Now I look at changelogs and comments in new program sources :(
[03:29] <unagi> yea seriously more like for i in *.rpm; do sudo alien -cv $i; done
[03:29] <Silverwolf> New Question:  Does anyone here know how to back up files through the terminal?
[03:29] <unagi> and wait wait wait wait wait wait wait and wait some more
[03:29] <unagi> sudo ln -s /usr/aw /aw
[03:29] <silent> Silverwolf, man cp
[03:30] <vbabiy> Marcn nope I am getting my 720 gig external next week for that reason
[03:30] <unagi> sudo dpkg -i (insert 5 packages here)
[03:30] <riotkittie> 720gb external. ooh. :\
[03:30] <unagi> sudo cp aw.dat /var/flexlm
[03:30] <unagi> sudo mkdir /usr/tmp
[03:30] <unagi> sudo chmod 777 /usr/tmp
[03:30] <riotkittie> i miss my 500gb.  i should see if i can make it unbroken. :d
[03:30] <Silverwolf> silent: who what?   0.o
[03:30] <unagi> then edit xorg.conf to add 5 lines save as xorgcompoff.conf
[03:30] <PirateHead> Silverwolf: I would suggest booting into a LiveCD, mounting your harddrive, and using that setup to do your backup.
[03:30] <BERSERKR> hey guys, I just installed gutsy on my new t61p, I have the intel abgn wireless card installed, and networking is really slow
[03:30] <silent> riotkittie, I have a debian server hosting over 1TB through smb to my home network ^_^ kekeke
[03:30] <MarcN> vbabiy: you may be out of luck.
[03:30] <BERSERKR> can anybody help?
[03:31] <unagi> then write the script to rename xorg restart x
[03:31] <Silverwolf> PirateHead: actually that would be a good idea.
[03:31] <unagi> and im not going to keep going
[03:31] <riotkittie> silent: nice :o
[03:31] <scguy318> !gutsy | BERSERKR
[03:31] <ubotu> BERSERKR: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[03:31] <TIX3> TIX3
[03:31] <riotkittie> i am sad. i have a mere 340gb between my internal and external drives :|
[03:31] <Silverwolf> PirateHead: I will try that.  Thanks
[03:31] <vbabiy> MarcN: is there any tools like R-tools
[03:31] <PirateHead> Silverwolf: good luck. :-)
[03:31] <Pelo> riotkittie, no need to me like that
[03:31] <silent> riotkittie, you should try it... just get an old pos machine, install base debian, get samba/swat, load it up with hard drives, LVM and you're good to go
[03:31] <Silverwolf> Bye
[03:31] <BERSERKR> ahh, ok, thx
[03:32] <MarcN> vbabiy: http://batleth.sapienti-sat.org/projects/FAQs/ext3-faq.html  http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linuxunix-recover-deleted-files.html
[03:32] <IdleOne> riotkittie: 20gig here :/ dont feel bad
[03:32] <unagi> what does  cp -aR ~ /target do
[03:32] <MarcN> vbabiy: http://blog.lxpages.com/2007/06/21/linux-file-recovery/ -- beats me if any of these work.
[03:32] <BERSERKR> hey guys, I asked this in the ubuntu chan, I just wanted to know if there was a reason for my wireless to be so slow
[03:32] <TheMoebius> what are these UUID's in my fstab?
[03:32] <PirateHead> unagi: it copies your home directory to /target
[03:33] <silent> IdleOne, that's the beauty of having a server... any one of my networked computers could have a 20 gb drive but have access to over 1tb
[03:33] <BERSERKR> mmm, sorry
[03:33] <unagi> does home directory include things like avant window navigator screenlets compiz-fusion and settings?
[03:33] <silent> unagi, neg
[03:33] <BERSERKR> somehow it didnt send the msg to the right chan
[03:33] <MarcN> vbabiy: you immedately shutdown that linux box, right? You don't want any more writes to that disk.
[03:33] <IdleOne> BERSERKR: np
[03:33] <silent> unagi, why are you upgrading?
[03:33] <PirateHead> unagi: probably does. a lot of your configuration is stored in your home folder. however, some things might not be copied.
[03:33] <Pelo> unagi,  just he settings for the apps and your data
[03:33] <unagi> im not
[03:34] <riotkittie> Pelo: uh what?
[03:34] <MarcN> TheMoebius: a unique identifier for your partition.  See vol_name
[03:34] <unagi> just for future reference when its released
[03:34] <vbabiy> MarcN: No I deleted it like a week ago, Think I am out of luck
[03:34] <unagi> even further sometimes i wish to back up my entire ubuntu installation but i dunno how to do that
[03:34] <TheMoebius> MarcN: I just formatted a new hard drive and want it to be available to everyone. What should I do?
[03:34] <unagi> i can in windows
[03:34] <Pelo> riotkittie, don'T be down on yourself for having only 340 gig of hdd space
[03:34] <brandon12345_> Good evening
[03:34] <MarcN> vbabiy: you are hosed.
[03:34] <IdleOne> !backup | unagi
[03:34] <ubotu> unagi: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[03:34] <riotkittie> IdleOne: if its any consolation, my other box has a mere 7GB, split between two drives.
[03:34] <silent> unagi, sudo cp -R /* /bkp
[03:34] <unagi> those arent clear to me
[03:35] <IdleOne> riotkittie: hehe yeah that makes me feel a little better
[03:35] <silent> unagi, but that still wont do any good.
[03:35] <unagi> you cant back up media......that would cause multiple copies
[03:35] <MarcN> TheMoebius: the uuid in /etc/fstab is just to identify the disk to mount.  Instead of using /dev/hda1 or /dev/mapper/SomeLVMname which may change
[03:35] <silent> unagi, just do dist-upgrade
[03:36] <unagi> !cloning
[03:36] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[03:36] <unagi> !automate
[03:36] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[03:36] <silent> unagi, boot into live cd, copy your root to another partition, dist upgrade... if shit hits the fan format and put your root back
[03:36] <unagi> is there word on major changes in 7.10?
[03:37] <silent> about .06 I hear
[03:37] <vbabiy> Hey MarcN is there a backup program like apples time machine
[03:37] <ihavenoname>  Hi
[03:37] <ihavenoname>  Hi
[03:37] <ihavenoname>  Hi
[03:37] <ihavenoname>  Hi
[03:37] <ihavenoname>  hi
[03:37] <ihavenoname>  hi
[03:37] <silent> well that was fun
[03:37] <MarcN> vbabiy: never heard of it. I use 'rsnapshot' to keep multiple versions around in a space efficient way
[03:37] <unagi> er 06
[03:38] <unagi> major changes in 06?
[03:38] <underwatercow> Can anyone tell me if there is somewhere that keep saves it's configuration files?
[03:38] <unagi> like better bluetooth support and maybe tv tuner support?
[03:38] <silent> unagi, 7.10 - 7.04 = 0.06
[03:38] <Pici> !gutsy
[03:38] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[03:38] <Pelo> underwatercow,  can you rephrase that ?
[03:39] <unagi> wait wtf
[03:39] <underwatercow> Pelo: What is wrong with my phrasing?
[03:39] <unagi> lol im lost
[03:39] <Pelo> underwatercow,  configureation of what ?
[03:39] <silent> unagi, I was being clever
[03:39] <Pelo> unagi,  tehre is no such distro as .06,  the closest you can get to taht is 6.06 which is dapper and over a year old
[03:40] <underwatercow> Pelo: The list of what it is backing up, exclusions, inclusions, etc... that way if I have to reinstall the OS, I don't have to tell Keep what to backup all over again
[03:40] <silent> Pelo, he asked what the difference between feisty and gutsy was... I told him it was about 0.06
[03:41] <kevinG> everytime i try to start up a game fullscreen with 3D rendering, Ubuntu seems to crash
[03:41] <kevinG> is this due to Beryl?
[03:41] <silent> kevinG, go ahead and install compiz
[03:41] <scguy318> kevinG: dunno, have you tried asking in #ubuntu-effects?
[03:41] <Pelo> underwatercow,  I can recommend moving your /home folder to a seperate partition that way if you have to  reinstall the os, all you data and settings will be safe from formating ,  you'll only have to reinstall the apps
[03:41] <Pelo> silent,   naugty you
[03:41] <Jumbalia> How do I know if I have the most updated NVIDIA drivers? I installed the ones that were in the restricted driver manager
[03:41] <kevinG> silent, is this a known bug with beryl?
[03:41] <russe11> Anyone tried to use pidgin with gnome proxy settings? It doesn't seem they work together.
[03:41] <b0lle> Hello! I'm having some issues with my wireless connection. It worked flawlessly from the Live CD but now after I installed Ubuntu it stopped working. In dmesg it says "ADDRCONF(NETDEV_APP): eth1: link is not ready". Any clues?
[03:41] <underwatercow> Pelo: I actually have it set up that way, but I would like to backup settings to a different hard drive as a redundancy
[03:42] <silent> kevinG, beryl doesnt exist anymore
[03:42] <aTypical> Is there a list of mirrors for 7.10 somewhere?
[03:42] <silent> kevinG, fused with compiz
[03:42] <scguy318> b0lle: what chipset?
[03:42] <riotkittie>  aTypical > yes, on the download page @ ubuntu.com
[03:42] <mneptok> aTypical: use the torrent, though.
[03:42] <Jumbalia> also, how do I get more resolutions? I only have a max of 1024x768, but I have widescreen monitor
[03:42] <Pelo> underwatercow,  well all the settings are in hidden folders and files so I guess you could backup everthing starting with a dot
[03:42] <b0lle> scguy381: Orinoco Gold card
[03:43] <Pelo> underwatercow,  but donT' ask me how
[03:43] <scguy318> Jumbalia: backup xorg.conf, then do gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, find the horiz/vert sections, edit to your monitor's specs
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[03:43] <Christian_> [nomas] 
[03:43] <Christian_> [nomas] 
[03:43] <Fiveohthree> Hey all.. i want to extract zip file but says i dont have permissions.. hellpp
[03:43] <TheMoebius> MarcN: there must be a way to have ubuntu handle my hard drives automatically without me having to edit fstab? My other external hard drives were managed when i plugged them in...
[03:43] <nomaS> kiubule
[03:43] <Christian_> :P
[03:43] <Christian_> xD
[03:43] <Christian_> se chingo
[03:43] <Christian_> esta
[03:43] <Christian_> merga
[03:43] <Christian_> :D
[03:43] <underwatercow> Pelo: that would be easy enough to do, but unnecessary... I don't want to back up all config files, only select ones, lol
[03:43] <nomaS> i eso ?????????
[03:43] <Christian_> ts
[03:43] <scguy318> !es | Christian_
[03:43] <Christian_> sabe
[03:43] <ubotu> Christian_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:43] <Christian_> la tarjeta de video
[03:43] <Christian_> :P
[03:43] <Jumbalia> scguy: how do I know if I have the most up to date drivers also?
[03:43] <nomaS> o.O
[03:43] <Christian_> dame tu msn wey por pv
[03:43] <Christian_> xD
[03:43] <nomaS> la tarjeta se chingo ?
[03:43] <nomaS> entra al otro
[03:43] <silent> Jumbalia, apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[03:43] <nomaS> aya ando
[03:43] <scguy318> Jumbalia: if you didn't, you would get some nice updates
[03:44] <Pelo> underwatercow, sigh,  then I guess you can just back up the relevent hidden folders
[03:44] <aTypical> mneptok, the torrent is still good for 7.10?  I thought those were only good for the first few days after a release.
[03:44] <Christian_> ps sepa la merga formate
[03:44] <Christian_> xD
[03:44] <Christian_> no me acuerdo:/
[03:44] <Christian_> :|
[03:44] <IdleOne> !es | Christian_ nomaS
[03:44] <Pelo> !es | nomaS
[03:44] <ubotu> Christian_ nomaS: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:44] <silent> aTypical, the torrent should still be seeded by many
[03:44] <underwatercow> Pelo: Hence my original question. Where are keep files saved at?
[03:44] <mneptok> aTypical: yup
[03:44] <Jumbalia> Ok.  I didnt know if the ones available through aptitude were as up to date as the ones from NVIDIA
[03:44] <kevinly> thank you
[03:44] <mneptok> aTypical: use a daily
[03:44] <b0lle> scguy318: Orinoco Gold card, how can I see the chipset version?
[03:44] <scguy318> b0lle: lspci
[03:44] <scguy318> b0lle: have you tried ndiswrapper?
[03:45] <silent> Jumbalia, thay aren't typically, but with the ones on apt you tend to have more compatibility
[03:45] <silent> Jumbalia, but you can, of course install the latest straight from nvidia with minimal hassel
[03:45] <b0lle> scguy318: No, do I really need to? As I said it worked fine from the Live CD
[03:45] <Jumbalia> ok thanks
[03:45] <scguy318> b0lle: well, if native isn't working out, then perhaps ndiswrapper you might need
[03:45] <scguy318> b0lle: what's your chipset?
[03:45] <scguy318> b0lle: and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[03:46] <underwatercow> Pelo: I did a find and found that the files are in .kde/share/config... thanks anyway ;-D
[03:46] <Fiveohthree> Hey all.. i want to extract zip file but says i dont have permissions.. hellpp
[03:46] <silent> I'm talking to you using ndiswrapper :)
[03:46] <Fiveohthree> cant make folders or files in a folder also.
[03:46] <scguy318> Fiveohthree: is the ZIP file owned by root? is the destination owned by root?
[03:46] <silent> Fiveohthree, ls -l on the dir
[03:46] <b0lle> scguy318: I can't find anything in lspci, but it says in pccardctl "Lucent Technologies", "WaveLAN/IEEE"
[03:46] <scguy318> b0lle: pastebin lspci then
[03:46] <scguy318> !pastebin
[03:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:47] <scguy318> probably a Lucent
[03:47] <scguy318> but just wanna see :)
[03:47] <psemag> I get an error when I compile a C or C++ program /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.1.2/../../../../include/c++/4.1.2/cstdlib:135: error: ::system has not been declared
[03:48] <b0lle> scguy318: I don't have any internet access on that computer, sorry
[03:48] <scguy318> b0lle: mm ok
[03:48] <scguy318> b0lle: hmmm
[03:48] <scguy318> !lucent
[03:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lucent - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:48] <Fiveohthree> scguy318 isnet everything on here belong to me?
[03:48] <silent> psemag, not sure this is the best place for a question like that... not many people that techy here
[03:48] <scguy318> b0lle: maybe, that's what we're trying to figure
[03:48] <Tarkus> any idea how to get rid of that default black border minimize effect/animation, when you minimize a window (gnome)?
[03:48] <b0lle> scguy318: The Network Manager identifies the card and I can issue it the WEP-key and everything
[03:48] <scguy318> Fiveohthree: maybe, that's what we're trying to figure
[03:49] <scguy318> b0lle: hmmm
[03:49] <silent> psemag, try the forums
[03:49] <scguy318> b0lle: im not too sure :(
[03:49] <Fiveohthree> scguy318 kk 1 sec
[03:49] <Bossmanbeta> silent speaks for himself, to be sure.
[03:49] <silent> Bossmanbeta, then go ahead and help him compile his program
[03:49] <b0lle> scguy318: I can boot up with the LiveCD and run pastebin, hold on
[03:50] <coldboot> Does anyone know how to get nvidia to clone the screens?
[03:50] <coldboot> There's Twin View, disabled and xinerama...
[03:50] <unagi> !screenlets
[03:50] <ubotu> Screenlets are little widgets for your !desktop. Note you must have !Compiz Fusion, !Beryl, xcompmgr, or KWin to run them. You can get them at http://www.screenlets.org/
[03:50] <asdf25> hi, does anyone know what program is ran on boot and network cable plug-in to get ip addresses using dhcp? it doesn't seem to be dhclient, because i have an alias set in dhclient.conf that isn't getting used
[03:51] <silent> coldboot, I'm gonna go with twin view on that one
[03:51] <coldboot> silent: You sure?
[03:51] <coldboot> It was set to twin view...
[03:51] <coldboot> And I had two indepent screens
[03:51] <silent> coldboot, and what happened?
[03:51] <silent> coldboot, why do you want them cloned?
[03:51] <coldboot> silent: weird slideshow reasons. =)
[03:52] <coldboot> brb
[03:52] <Tarkus> any idea how to get rid of that default black border minimize effect/animation, when you minimize a window (gnome)?
[03:52] <silent> Tarkus, I would also like to know that
[03:54] <lhadji> Is deborphan the most suitable program to use to find unused packages on the system?
[03:54] <newbuntu> I am about to install from the live CD and I want to avoid the problems I have had in the past with my video drivers for ATI X1550.  Is there a way to slipstream the drivers in as I install?
[03:54] <Fiveohthree> scguy318 i go to cd /home          and changes
[03:54] <Fiveohthree> scguy318 but cd /brandon wont
[03:54] <Fiveohthree> scguy318 but i cant get to desktop
[03:55] <scguy318> Fiveohthree: because your home is in /home/brandon
[03:55] <orionr> hey where do i report a glitch in 7.10?
[03:55] <scguy318> Fiveohthree: not /brandon
[03:55] <scguy318> !launchpad
[03:55] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[03:55] <scguy318> !gutsy
[03:55] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[03:55] <Pici> !bugs | orionr this is the place
[03:55] <ubotu> orionr this is the place: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[03:55] <silent> question.. if I bring my laptop into the bathroom will it start to smell like poo?
[03:55] <fredbear_> probably
[03:56] <silent> fredbear_, well then i better vacate this area... its gettin vile in here
[03:56] <excalibas> hello, how can i install an .obj file?
[03:56] <innocentautomobi> anyone get citrix to work on ubuntu 7.04?
[03:56] <grjemo> I am trying to boot the Ubuntu .iso on my windows sp2 computer, but when I turn it on it just says, "missing operating system". What do I do?
[03:56] <Fiveohthree> scguy318 says rw r r 1 brandon brandon
[03:56] <Fiveohthree> scguy318 should say root huh?
[03:57] <riotkittie> grjemo: and you've set it to boot from the CD?  do you have multiple disc drives?
[03:57] <scguy318> grjemo: did you burn it properly?
[03:57] <scguy318> Fiveohthree: shouldn't
[03:57] <scguy318> Fiveohthree: which is good
[03:57] <scguy318> Fiveohthree: is the ZIP file owned by root?
[03:58] <grjemo> I have one disk drive. I burned the iso according to the instructions on the site.
[03:58] <Fiveohthree> scguy318: huh?
[03:58] <scguy318> Fiveohthree: is the ZIP file owned by root?
[03:58] <scguy318> Fiveohthree: the ZIP file you're trying to extract
[03:58] <Fiveohthree> scguy318: how do i tell?
[03:58] <silent> ls -l
[03:58] <silent> deja vu
[03:58] <BillyBeans> Gnome sux
[03:58] <level1_> how can I find out what the drivers for my touchpad and keyboard are?
[03:59] <riotkittie> grjemo: did you check the md5sum?
[03:59] <drthunder> gnome rox
[03:59] <Fiveohthree> did that.... says rw  r r  1  brandon brandon
[03:59] <drthunder> you sux
[03:59] <riotkittie> gnome grox
[03:59] <BillyBeans> why does Gnome sux so bad?
[03:59] <grjemo> no
[03:59] <scguy318> !offtopic | BillyBeans
[03:59] <silent> BillyBeans, only you can answer that
[03:59] <ubotu> BillyBeans: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:59] <level1_> BillyBeans: whats so bad about it?
[03:59] <excalibas> is it possible to install an .obj file?
[03:59] <BillyBeans> my gnome hangs, kde seems faster
[03:59] <grjemo> ill do it now
[03:59] <Pelo> BillyBeans,  if you don'T like gnome you can try someting else, , welcome to the world of Free software
[03:59] <silent> BillyBeans, then use kde and let me use gnome. mine runs fine :)
[03:59] <riotkittie> gnome sux so bad because you dislike it. let's not launch into desktop environment fanboy/girlism
[04:00] <b0lle> scguy318: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39617/
[04:00] <scguy318> ty
[04:00] <manicnerd> when enabling write support for my ntfs drives using ntfs-config i get the error "volume is scheduled for check.  Please boot into windows...blah blah"..........my problem is that i dont have windows installed....how do i fix this?
[04:00] <Fiveohthree> scguy318: did that.... says rw  r r  1  brandon brandon
[04:00] <lb_bn> exit
[04:00] <silent> BillyBeans, I could say kde sucks... but I'd be wrong by default. Linux is all about preference
[04:00] <eccentricity> I've never had trouple with a microphone before
[04:01] <BillyBeans> ok so i love ubuntu
[04:01] <rredd4> has anyone installed 7.10 beta without any problems... such as erasing other partitions.    Also, will the install keep my current files?
[04:01] <scguy318> b0lle: weird, it doesnt show anything about your card
[04:01] <eccentricity> but suddenly, the mic on my computer does nothing. Anybody had any experience getting a mic working?
[04:01] <scguy318> !gutsy | rredd4
[04:01] <ubotu> rredd4: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[04:01] <silent> BillyBeans, I respect Ubuntu, but I prefer building my own system from base debian
[04:01] <b0lle> scguy318: Yeah I know. Just the slots
[04:01] <BillyBeans> installed vnc, now i dont see the vnc.conf in the etc folder, where would it be?
[04:01] <Fiveohthree> scguy318: should i make my main login root insted of brandon?
[04:01] <scguy318> Fiveohthree: no
[04:02] <Pelo> BillyBeans,  in terminal,  locate vnc.conf
[04:02] <scguy318> b0lle: mm, i really dunno :( you could take a shot at ndiswrapper
[04:02] <silent> Fiveohthree, never
[04:02] <Fiveohthree> oh
[04:02] <riotkittie> grjemo: i'd check the md5 and make sue taht it matches, but i forget what you nood to install to do that under Windows. alternately you may want to try burning to another disc, but perhaps someone in here has a better idea
[04:02] <Fiveohthree> scguy318: oh
[04:02] <BillyBeans> whats the search command?
[04:02] <silent> Fiveohthree, use sudo for things you need priveleges for
[04:02] <scguy318> Fiveohthree: what's the ZIP file, where are you trying to extract, what are you using to extract?
[04:02] <grjemo> im getting a program to check the md5 now
[04:02] <b0lle> scguy318: Is there some way I can compare the config of the LiveCD and the installed version?
[04:02] <silent> Fiveohthree, having administrator privileges was a huge issue for security in windows-based machines
[04:02] <Fiveohthree> scguy318: i downloaded the phpmyadmin.. english and is on desktop
[04:03] <scguy318> b0lle: not sure :(
[04:03] <b0lle> !ndiswrapper
[04:03] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:03] <Fiveohthree> scguy318: i just double clicked it and its asking where to extract...
[04:03] <Fiveohthree> scguy318: i say /var/www/   but says dont have permision
[04:03] <scguy318> Fiveohthree: well, where do you want to extract?
[04:03] <scguy318> Fiveohthree? who owns /var/www?
[04:04] <grjemo> the download is slow
[04:04] <scguy318> Fiveohthree: you should extract as root
[04:04] <musikgoat> Fiveohthree: you should run archive manager with gksudo
[04:04] <scguy318> Fiveohthree: start file-roller as root by doing gksudo file-roller
[04:04] <TheMoebius> Fiveohthree: why not just install it with apt-get?
[04:04] <silent> b0lle, ndiswrapper is very easy to use
[04:04] <silent> b0lle, it's finding the .inf driver that's the hard part ;P
[04:05] <TheMoebius> Fiveohthree: sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin. Badaboom badabing, you're done
[04:05] <excalibas> please help, is it possible to install an .obj file?
[04:05] <Fiveohthree> OMG guys thats alot for newbee.. can you tell me what each of those do?  i know how to sudo apt-get install
[04:05] <scguy318> silent: not really, theres always the vendor driver sites
[04:05] <scguy318> excalibas: what obj file?
[04:05] <Pelo> excalibas, what is an obj file ?
[04:05] <Fiveohthree> TheMoebius thanks that helps
[04:05] <musikgoat> excalibas: usually obj files are for compiling
[04:05] <silent> scguy318, but getting the driver out of... say an exe could be a pain
[04:05] <linos> can anyone tell me how to fix this problem I am having this evening...   The package mfc3360ccupswrapper needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[04:05] <scguy318> Fiveohthree: in Terminal, start file-roller as root: gksudo file-roller
[04:05] <BillyBeans> where r my vnc .conf file?
[04:05] <excalibas> yes, how do i compile an .obj file?
[04:06] <scguy318> Fiveohthree: then just do your extraction as usual
[04:06] <Fiveohthree> scguy318: what does file-roller do?
[04:06] <silent> it rolls files
[04:06] <excalibas> http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/attachments/20070507/4c11f60f/attachment-0001.obj  this file
[04:06] <Pelo> linos, just to a search for wrapper in synaptic
[04:06] <scguy318> Fiveohthree: its the Archive Manager
[04:06] <musikgoat> i would think you need a compiler based around the language that the obj file is in
[04:06] <Fiveohthree> scguy318: like winzip
[04:06] <silent> can you guess what file-rocker does?
[04:06] <musikgoat> like c++ or c or somethin
[04:07] <overclucker> ls
[04:07] <overclucker> oops heh
[04:07] <linos> pelo: and what do I need to do in the synaptic manager?
[04:07] <silent> overclucker, wrong window man...
[04:07] <scguy318> Fiveohthree: yeah
[04:07] <Pelo> linos,  use the search feature fo look for the package you need
[04:08] <excalibas> mmm but this should be a flie already compiled, or am i wrong?
[04:08] <silent> linos, synaptic is a great utility
[04:08] <scguy318> excalibas: well, what's the OBJ file intended for? it's obviously not an ELF shared library
[04:08] <overclucker> silent: thought i had /quit but i guess not (;
[04:08] <linos> somehow I cannot find anything in my synaptic package manager, why is that??
[04:08] <silent> linos, of course I don't use it
[04:08] <Fiveohthree> scguy318: kk did sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin and worked
[04:08] <musikgoat> excalibas: is that .obj file the only file you have?
[04:08] <silent> overclucker, how could you ever /quit this great channel?
[04:08] <Pelo> linos,  narrows you search, or broaden it , search for cups or for wrapper
[04:08] <scguy318> Fiveohthree: cool
[04:09] <excalibas> yes, this is the only, the file is from the puredata mailing list
[04:09] <silent> linos, apt-get update && apt-cache search <lol?>
[04:09] <degreseven> how can i prevent the screen from locking when i close the lid on my laptop?
[04:09] <silent> degreseven, mine just doesn't must be an option somewhere
[04:09] <musikgoat> its probly supplimental then,  I don't believe you can build a program from just a .obj file
[04:10] <Pelo> degreseven,  might be model related,  check in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[04:10] <excalibas> it is a puredata external compiled in ubuntu (i think)  "attached is the wiimote compiled with 32 bits intel on ubuntu dapper downloaded from the author's site (http://mikewoz.com/index.php?page=pd-stuff)"
[04:10] <degreseven> silent, hmm, i have not been able to find one. Wherever it is, it is set by default on my machine
[04:10] <degreseven> pelo ah, thanks
[04:10] <scguy318> excalibas: what's the OBJ even for, and how is it connected to Puredata?
[04:10] <scguy318> excalibas: what are you trying to get accomplished, really?
[04:10] <silent> degreseven, Must be a package installed in ubuntu that I dont have. I use base debian and install what I need
[04:11] <linos> silent and pelo, this is what it did after I did a apt-get update && apt-cache...  Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[04:11] <scguy318> linos: is Synaptic or anything else like that running?
[04:11] <silent> cause you're running synaptic
[04:11] <excalibas> scguy318, i am trying to install the wiimote external for puredata  http://mikewoz.com/index.php?page=pd-stuff
[04:11] <Pelo> linos,  close synapticfirst
[04:11] <silent> synaptic is easier though... for most people. I'm just used to the command line
[04:12] <Alp`> anyone using texlive and tried to add a package? i tried to install the "onlyamsmath" package. i downloaded/extracted the archive, did "make" and put the whole directory to /usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/onlyamsmath
[04:12] <excalibas> scguy318, but it gives lots of errors, so i found this page http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2007-05/049792.html
[04:12] <Alp`> but still i get a nasty "couldnt find onlyamsmath"
[04:12] <musikgoat> offtopic: the RIAA won :-(  those ___ers!!
[04:12] <eccentricity> so.... anyone know how to configure a mic? I'ce gone down tonsa blind alleys..
[04:12] <excalibas> scguy318, it should have the compiled external
[04:12] <eccentricity> I've, even.
[04:12] <silent> alp, are you apt-cache searching? do you have the repo enabled?
[04:13] <linos> pelo: here is what I get when I open synaptic again... E: The package mfc3360ccupswrapper needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.   E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report.
[04:13] <excalibas> scguy318, or am i very wrong?
[04:13] <silent> linos, sounds pretty bad, you pulled a windows
[04:13] <Pelo> eccentricity, first make sure it is not muted, check in alsamixer
[04:13] <scguy318> excalibas: i dunno, never used Puredata
[04:13] <gotam1> Hi! I'm working with edubuntu 7.04, ltsp 5. The xserver crashes a lot on the thin client. Is there any solution? How can I use the vesa driver? XSERVER  = vesa in the lts.conf file doesn't work.
[04:13] <scguy318> !ltsp
[04:13] <ubotu> LTSP is the Linux Terminal Server Project, which adds thin-client support to Linux servers. See chapter 3 of the !edubuntuhandbook, http://www.ltsp.org and/or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Terminal_Server_Project
[04:14] <silent> linos, make sure you have the correct repositories enabled
[04:14] <scguy318> gotam1: thoguh I know nothing, and isn't there #edubuntu?
[04:14] <Pelo> linos,  find the package in the synaptic list,  remove it , then reinstall it
[04:14] <excalibas> scguy318, ok, but have you used .obj files?
[04:14] <silent> in one of those obscure menus
[04:14] <scguy318> excalibas: nope
[04:14] <excalibas> scguy318, hehehe ok
[04:14] <scguy318> excalibas: seems specific to w/e Puredata is
[04:14] <Alp`> silent: seems to be in "texlive-latex-extra", but i installed that already. what do you mean with repo enabled?
[04:14] <linos> silent: how do I do that
[04:15] <silent> Alp`, try reinstalling it... apt-get --reinstall install <name>
[04:15] <excalibas> scguy318, no, .obj is not puredata file...
[04:15] <silent> linos, try reinstalling it
[04:15] <scguy318> excalibas: well, something related to Puredata, because .obj files don't really have much meaning in the Linux world :)
[04:15] <linos> silent: do you have the command?
[04:15] <prisone1> Hello. When I tried to compile irssi, it said glib is missing. Is it something that I can install from the repositories, or do I need to download it from the site?
[04:15] <MtJB> am dere channel gusty giblets?
[04:15] <silent> linos, I told it to Alp`
[04:15] <scguy318> !gutsy
[04:15] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[04:16] <MtJB> hooboy
[04:16] <scguy318> prisone1: isn't irssi in the repos?
[04:16] <excalibas> scguy318, ok, i will try to find something more, thanks for the pacience
[04:16] <scguy318> prisone1: probably its asking for glib-dev packages
[04:16] <scguy318> excalibas: np
[04:16] <prisone1> scguy318: Yes but it isn't the latest version of irssi in the repo :P
[04:16] <scguy318> prisone1: ah
[04:16] <scguy318> prisone1: search for glib packages that end in dev, prob what the ./configure wants
[04:16] <linos> alpL do you know the command to reinstall synaptic?
[04:16] <prisone1> Okay
[04:17] <Pelo> linos I just checked and I can find no such package in synaptic on my comp
[04:17] <Pelo> linos, to reinstall synaptic ?
[04:17] <linos> I don't know the command to do that Pelo
[04:17] <AndrewB> prisone1: I think you could install build-essential with apt to get rid of that
[04:18] <Pelo> linos, nvm I think I found you a link for mfc3360ccupswrapper
[04:18] <prisone1> AndrewB: No, build-essential did not include it.
[04:18] <AndrewB> Ah ok
[04:18] <prisone1> Okay, I have another question. I saw on the forum that some people have used a windows driver to get their WiFi card to work. Does that degrade performance of the WiFi card?
[04:19] <degreseven> silent, found it. just FYI- the option can be changed in gconf-editor under apps/gnome-power-manager, there are check boxes for when to lock the screen. Thanks
[04:19] <Pelo> linos,  go to menu > sytem > admin > printers ,  delete your pinter,  , then reinstall it
[04:20] <eyemean> hello every
[04:20] <eyemean> one
[04:20] <piedoggie> can anyone here help with recovering an lvm partition
[04:20] <Alp`> silent: that seemed to work, thanks
[04:20] <Pelo> !lvm | piedoggie maybe in here
[04:20] <ubotu> piedoggie maybe in here: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[04:20] <eyemean> im having a problem using deluge and oink torrent site, i get connection refused
[04:21] <linos> I don't have any printers there
[04:21] <g-unot> hi
[04:21] <degreseven> piedoggie, you could also try #lvm if no one here knows
[04:21] <g-unot> im trying to use niswraper
[04:21] <MythbuntuGuest45> has anyone setup mythphone before
[04:21] <prisone1> I tried for days to get RAID0 to work and finally disabled it before installing Ubuntu :|
[04:21] <Pelo> eyemean, you need a deluge channel for that  try #deluge
[04:21] <linos> pelo, how can I fix the synaptic manager
[04:21] <g-unot> where can i find a inf file?
[04:21] <Pelo> linos,  I don'T think synaptic is the problem
[04:21] <eyemean> pelo, thank you
[04:21] <piedoggie> the  tldp lvm doco is way too old and almost null content
[04:22] <piedoggie> kinda sad
[04:22] <grjemo> im having trouble getting the md5. What commands do I need to run. The site isnt clear
[04:22] <phrost> is there a way you can get the ubuntu installer to not load a module?
[04:22] <g-unot> where can i find a inf file for ndiswrapper
[04:22] <phrost> sym53c8xx is killing my compaq server on the install cd
[04:22] <linos> pelo: I don't quite understand this..  how can I fix the error then?
[04:23] <Pelo> linos,  when you open synaptic,  check on the bottom left corner , see the buttons click the filter one,  see if you have broken packages,  if you do , select for reinstallation
[04:23] <g-unot> where can i find a inf file for ndiswrapper
[04:24] <HIGH> hi. i want to run eMule on my DesktopPC and access it from my Ubuntu-powered laptop. The desktop-pc is supposed to download. i just want to control them from my laptop. does anyone know how to do that?
[04:24] <piedoggie> degreseven: thaks. I'll try threre again.  last time all I heard was crickets chirping :-)
[04:24] <riotkittie> g-unot: go to the website of your device's manufacturer. download the drivers they supply. the .inf will be in there
[04:24] <Pelo> g-unot,  get the ,.inf file from either your widows instal or from the driver cd for your device,  copy it somewhere in your ubuntu install
[04:24] <aTypical> This download is going to take a long time.  :-(
[04:24] <riotkittie> g-unot: alternately, if you have win or a cd...
[04:24] <g-unot> hmm
[04:24] <g-unot> i looked for it
[04:24] <linos> pelo: nothing
[04:25] <g-unot> i culdnt find it
[04:25] <riotkittie> g-unot: where did you look?
[04:25] <Pelo> linos, check in the forum then i am out of ideas   www.ubuntuforums.org , do a search for the error msg you get
[04:25] <g-unot> i extracted the exe on windows
[04:25] <g-unot> and didnt see an inf
[04:25] <degreseven> piedoggie, yeah i bet, but if you're patient you're sure to get a good response there =)
[04:25] <linos> Pelo: thanks for your help
[04:25] <Pelo> g-unot,  try online, to device maker's site
[04:26] <g-unot> already did] 
[04:26] <g-unot> i know there is one
[04:26] <riotkittie> do you have sys files hidden?   do you have unhidden for known extensions selected?
[04:26] <_var> I can stop x with ctrl-alt-backspace but it just starts up again. How do the keep it stopped?
[04:26] <g-unot> because i read a tutuorial on it
[04:26] <g-unot> no
[04:26] <g-unot> i see the sys files
[04:26] <g-unot> but no inf
[04:26] <riotkittie> g-unot: was there an .exe?
[04:26] <g-unot> yes
[04:26] <riotkittie> like setup.exe?
[04:26] <g-unot> yes
[04:26] <g-unot> i extracted it
[04:26] <Devourer> Is there a program that can convert WMVs to AVIs?
[04:26] <Pelo> _var,  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[04:26] <prisone1> How do I search in apt-get?
[04:26] <g-unot> and didnot see a inf
[04:27] <Pelo> Devourer,  avidemux does it for some
[04:27] <_var> Pelo: trying it now...
[04:27] <riotkittie> how bizarre  :|
[04:27] <sasa> hello....can someone please tell me the name of the package I need to install in order to burn cds from mp3 using K3b???
[04:27] <Devourer> Pelo: Thanks.
[04:27] <Fiveohthree> How come my comp keeps saying i dont have permission?
[04:27] <Pelo> sasa,  you can't do that
[04:27] <Pelo> sasa, hold on ,  try lame
[04:27] <sasa> Pelo: what do you mean?
[04:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Fiveohthree: because you are trying to do something it dosent think you should
[04:27] <_var> Pelo: works like a charm
[04:27] <Pelo> sasa,  nevemind my firs tcommand install lame,
[04:28] <Fiveohthree> Jack_Sparrow: how do i tell it what to let me do
[04:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Fiveohthree: What specifically are you trying to do?
[04:28] <sasa> I know it exists...I had it before I reformated my lapto
[04:28] <Fiveohthree> jsut put phpmyadmin on and starting there
[04:28] <riotkittie> if you need one for the dlink g122 rev b1 i have you covered.  heh.
[04:28] <Pelo> !mp3 | sasa
[04:28] <ubotu> sasa: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:28] <g-unot> any ideas>
[04:28] <Fiveohthree> Jack_Sparrow: jsut put phpmyadmin on and starting there
[04:28] <sasa> k3b program says;  MAD Mp3 decoding library as well as the K3b MAD Mp3 decoder plugin
[04:28] <prisone1> In synaptic, there is a libavahi-glib-dev .. Is that the glib that I need for compiling irssi?
[04:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Are you trying to install this manually or from repos?
[04:29] <Fiveohthree> Jack_Sparrow: says to make config folder.. but there is already one  there... then i tried to edit the file in the config folder with gedit but wont open the edit
[04:29] <Jack_Sparrow> gksudo gedit
[04:29] <Pelo> sasa,  try google for those files descritpions,  get a deb if they have it or the source if they don'T
[04:30] <sasa> Pelo: thank you...darn it, I can't remember the package name, I would know it if I saw it
[04:30] <_var> Pelo: is there anyway I can stop X (gdm) with just a keypress?
[04:31] <Pelo> _var,  not that I know of
[04:31] <cgineilhan> I have a question about for system administors
[04:31] <_var> Pelo: can I configure X to not restart after ctrl-alt-delete
[04:31] <Pelo> _var,  do you need to stop gdm or do you jsut want a consol mode ?  crtl _ alt _ f2 to f5
[04:32] <_var> Pelo: I want to work with out X's interference
[04:32] <Pelo> _var,  you can setup not to start x on startup but it is not something I am very familiar with
[04:33] <_var> Pelo: thanks for your help
[04:34] <cgineilhan> Is there a good "console" tool that let me bundle together a couple shells
[04:34] <cgineilhan> and send command to them together?
[04:34] <cgineilhan> I have used multi-gnome-terminal, did not fall in love with it
[04:35] <yotta> I've got a RAID5 array with a filed drive. It's on SATA, so when i remove the failed drive, device names change, and mdadm refuses to start the array.  Anyone know how to fix?
[04:35] <Dialntone> can someone help me out with a xmms problem
[04:35] <vulcanius> cgineilhan, you want to send the same command to multiple terminal windows?
[04:35] <Konam> hi
[04:35] <citrusflavord> hey, some one told me I could install xorg and kde-desktop to ubuntu server for a sort of simplified kubuntu. how would you sugest one dot eh equivient for gnome?
[04:35] <sasa> Pelo: what was the "lame" package you mentioned....could that be what I'm missing?
[04:35] <cgineilhan> Yes, vulcanius
[04:36] <vulcanius> cgineilhan, why? what is it you're trying to do?
[04:36] <Konam> someone knows if i can put the home and the tmp folder in one partition? i already put the home in one but i don't know how to add the /tmp folder to that same partition
[04:36] <Dialntone> i am having some problems with my xmms on firefox,  its not playing shoutcast music over xmms
[04:36] <cgineilhan> I have a hand full servers I like to config at the same time
[04:36] <citrusflavord> what does var stand for?
[04:36] <peter_> does any know how to connect a blue tooth headset to to fiesty ?
[04:36] <Azer> mIRC-Admin is sending spam....
[04:37] <borgista> My CDr's won't auto-mount, any ideas?
[04:37] <cgineilhan> The are not the exactly the same, but if I can use multi-gnome-term and send command to them together, it's going to help a lot
[04:37] <citrusflavord> borgista: can u manually mount them?
[04:38] <borgista> None of my CDs auto-mount. I'm running Feist
[04:38] <BillyBeans> i need help with my vnc, where is the .conf file located?
[04:38] <borgista> citrusflavord: How would I do that?
[04:38] <Devourer> Pelo: Do you recommend another program that can convert WMV's to AVI's?
[04:38] <cgineilhan> BillyBeans, a command "locate" can find files for you
[04:38] <cdm10> BillyBeans: you mean for the built-in remote desktop tool?
[04:38] <Konam> someone knows if i can put the home and the tmp folder in one partition? i already put the home in one but i don't know how to add the /tmp folder to that same partition
[04:38] <Konam> ???
[04:38] <cdm10> BillyBeans: it's not in a file, it's in gconf.
[04:39] <Flannel> Konam: just keep /tmp with /
[04:39] <Pelo> Devourer,  FFmpeg but I don't know how to use it
[04:39] <Dialntone> this really sucks, because i can't find the xmms location of its' not in the /usr/bin area, .. where the heck is it'?
[04:39] <cdm10> Konam: I don't think you can do that, because the partition is mounted as /home.
[04:39] <Devourer> Pelo: Lol, alright.
[04:39] <Flannel> Dialntone: `which xmms` (or whatever the executable is)
[04:39] <prisone1> When I try to install using checkinstall, it says failed to create debian package. What could be causing that?
[04:40] <citrusflavord> borgista jeez way to quiz me on my bash, I dont know, but u can use the -o aurgement most of the time to force mount and then use the code with a launcher and use the launcher to mount what ever CD you use...
[04:40] <cdm10> prisone1: I probably can't help you, but it would help other people if you pastebinned the full message.
[04:40] <Pelo> Devourer,  ffmpeg will convert anything to anything,  but it's cli
[04:40] <Konam> Flannel is just that i wanna put root on a 7GB partition but that would be an inconvenient just for the /tmp folder....
[04:40] <cdm10> !pastebin | prisone1
[04:40] <ubotu> prisone1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:40] <Devourer> Pelo: Oh... :o
[04:40] <Flannel> Konam: Eh?  7GB would be plenty of room for / and /tmp
[04:41] <Pelo> Devourer,  open a terminal and type  ffmpeg , try to figure it out ,  it's basicaly   ffmpeg  -options  sourcefile  targetfile
[04:41] <cdm10> Flannel: He means he doesn't want to waste all that space or something like that.
[04:41] <borgista> citrusflavord: how can I see where to mount it from?
[04:41] <Konam> Flannel i don't think so, my current root takes 4GBs and the tmp is use when you're burning DVDs (4.1GBs ususally)
[04:41] <cgineilhan> Can someone recommand a replacement of multi-gnome-terminal?
[04:41] <Devourer> Pelo: Cool.
[04:41] <Dialntone> xmms the music player
[04:42] <Pelo> Devourer,  sorry type man ffmpeg for the manpage
[04:42] <Flannel> Dialntone: why are you looking for the location again?
[04:42] <citrusflavord> pelo: can you help borgista with bash to force mount a CD? I'm unsure
[04:42] <borgista> thank you citrusflavord
[04:43] <Pelo> citrusflavord, not to force mount I can't sorry , I'M not that leet
[04:43] <Dialntone> so firefox can play shoutcast music
[04:43] <thesaint4444> hey guys anyone know how to set the hostname? hostname newname does not seem to stay past reboot for some reason.....
[04:43] <Dialntone> it needs a default player
[04:43] <Dialntone> and im use to that winamp look a like ;(
[04:43] <Flannel> Dialntone: Type 'which xmms' in a terminal (now that I looked up what the command was)
[04:43] <prisone1> cdm10: Looks like it was some problem with the irssi source. It said there was some problem at line 7. So I went ahead and did a normal "make install" and it installed fine.
[04:43] <cdm10> prisone1: ok.
[04:43] <Dialntone> hmmm
[04:43] <Dialntone> let me see
[04:43] <Pelo> borgista, is the cd damaged ?
[04:44] <Dialntone> x multimedia system
[04:44] <borgista> Nope, Pelo. It's a new CDr
[04:44] <Pelo> borgista, why does it need to be force mounted ?
[04:44] <Dialntone> just in the terminal , but i can't the program
[04:44] <Konam> Flannel, it is impossible then?
[04:44] <borgista> it wont automount, Pelo
[04:44] <borgista> Pelo: maybe dbus is messed-up
[04:45] <Pelo> borgista, will it mount manualy ?
[04:45] <manicnerd> when enabling write support for my ntfs drives using ntfs-config i get the error "volume is scheduled for check.  Please boot into windows...blah blah"..........my problem is that i dont have windows installed....how do i fix this?
[04:45] <citrusflavord> pelo: mount -o /dev/cdrom
[04:45] <Pelo> borgista,  in the terminal   mount /dev/cdrom1 /media/cdrom
[04:45] <prisone1> I saw on the forum that some people have used a windows driver to get their WiFi card to work. Does that degrade performance of the WiFi card? Like for example, in Windows, the default Wireless Zero utility finds lesser access points than what Network Stumbler is able to find.
[04:45] <citrusflavord> pelo: ?
[04:45] <MitchM> How do i open a file i saved in linux?
[04:45] <Pelo> citrusflavord,  you seem to know more ab out this then me
[04:46] <Pelo> MitchM,  you open it with the same app you saved it with
[04:46] <manicnerd> prisonel: i use ndiswrapper to get my wireless working and in linux it sees more wireless spots than when i'm in windows (on my laptop)
[04:46] <citrusflavord> pelo your like my hero stop crushing my dreams
[04:46] <preaction> prisone1, probably not, since the Zero utility has a threshold for what networks it finds (ie, it only shows you ones you might be able to maintain a connection to)
[04:46] <prisone1> Ah
[04:47] <manicnerd> prisonel: better answer from preaction :)
[04:47] <chris_> i was wondering if anyone had any suggestions.  I have the broadcom 4318 wireless card and have ndiswrapped bcmwl5.inf to it.  I can iwlist eth1 scanning my hom network, and when i try to connect it lights up the bottom circle of netork manager, associates my mac address with the access point, then stops
[04:47] <overclucker> haha i just spilled coffe on my keyboard
[04:47] <Dialntone> where xmms stored at so i can tell firefox .. to use that location to open the file
[04:48] <pavel>  whenever i leave my computer idle for a while, the sound stops working
[04:48] <preaction> prisone1, for the most part, just realize that the target windows user is completely brain-dead, whereas the target linux user is usually the person writing the software
[04:48] <bl4cktone> anyone know a program I can use for nzb files so I can download stuff in ubuntu?
[04:48] <citrusflavord> borgista: what happens when u try sudo mount -o /dev/cdrom ?
[04:48] <AzzClown> chris: you have gutsy?
[04:48] <prisone1> manicnerd: Could you help me setup my card? Im not sure how to begin..I checked on the forum and there're too many different ways of doing it, and I'm afraid I'll mess up everything
[04:48] <Pelo> bl4cktone, what are nzb files ?
[04:48] <chris_> fiesty
[04:48] <overclucker> now i have to go wash my keyboard in the sink
[04:48] <chris_> i had it working on gutsy
[04:48] <chris_> different install tho, same lappy
[04:48] <Christian_> www
[04:48] <Christian_> lol
[04:49] <chris_> funny think is ive gotten aircrack to work but not the freaking network manager
[04:49] <bl4cktone> Pelo: it's kind of like a torrent file but instead of pointing you to other people it shoots you to a usenet server so you can download from it.
[04:49] <manicnerd> prisonel: i got my wireless working just by following the guide for my card on the forums.....  i have the dell wireless 1390
[04:50] <Pelo> bl4cktone, google for a linux client for it
[04:50] <overclucker> Pelo: i reciently invested in a rubber submergable blue glowing keyboard, heheh
[04:50] <prisone1> ndiswrapper will also work with wireless-n?
[04:50] <chris_> manicnerd what broadcom ver 4603?
[04:50] <AzzClown> yea.  gutsy has the broadcom support. the people at my school all said fiesty is a pain or not possible with broadcom.
[04:50] <chris_> well why did they do that
[04:50] <Pelo> overclucker, I just have a 15 $ one, if it gets damage I can just buy a new one
[04:51] <bl4cktone> Pelo: couldn't find a program with google a while back guess they made a new one it's called Hellanzb
[04:51] <manicnerd> chris_ broadcom BCM94311MCG is the lspci output
[04:51] <chris_> i had problems with it in gutsy too but eventually got it
[04:51] <Pelo> bl4cktone, congrats
[04:51] <MitchM> Pelo, im trying to see if the data i copied into the file is there
[04:51] <overclucker> Pelo: i payed 30 usd for this, and it seems to be paying for itself
[04:51] <manicnerd> i got it working in fiesty and was able to keep it working when i upgraded to gutsy
[04:51] <innocentauto> anyone use citrix on ubuntu? I'm having issues getting it to work (SSL errors)
[04:51] <Pelo> MitchM, open it with gedit
[04:51] <manicnerd> however i use WICD to find my network
[04:51] <alcaponage> Will Gutsy Gibbon come with the old Compiz Fusion or a newer one with new plugins?
[04:52] <Pelo> alcaponage, ask in #ubuntu+1
[04:52] <manicnerd> chris_: it's the vostro 1000 dell
[04:52] <citrusflavord> are compiz and beryl still merging...?
[04:52] <riotkittie> screenlets <3
[04:53] <Pelo> citrusflavord, I think the merge has taken place already
[04:53] <AzzClown> the new compiz seems to be the same as the old beryl manager
[04:53] <AzzClown> except it works
[04:53] <zce> i would like to know if it is possible to a NON-PRIVILEGED USER to install applications (apt-get and .deb packages) in his own home.. and if it isnt, has it already been discussed something like that? because if im patient enough, i can get sources and ./configure --prefix=... anyway
[04:53] <riotkittie> comiz-fusion is that merge, citrusflavord
[04:53] <citrusflavord> pelo is it apt getable?
[04:53] <prisone1> hmm
[04:53] <chris_> so wait whats newest gutsy or fiesty
[04:53] <MitchM> Pelo, ok so then how do i open it in sed?
[04:53] <Pelo> citrusflavord, ask in #compiz-fusion
[04:53] <manicnerd> chris_: gutsy
[04:54] <riotkittie> chris_: gutsy is the newest but its still in beta stage
[04:54] <chris_> is it full distro or beta
[04:54] <riotkittie> it will go final this month
[04:54] <chris_> oh
[04:54] <prisone1> on ubuntuforums.org, it says I should install the guty kernel to use my wifi card
[04:54] <chris_> sorry new to ubuntu
[04:54] <Pelo> MitchM, I don'T know how to use sed
[04:54] <prisone1> gutsy
[04:54] <zero-1> Im unable to create a bridge connection with vmware on a atheros wifi card, any ideas?
[04:54] <chris_> get a mac
[04:54] <danielax> zce: yes it is possible. Not quite sure how. dpkg should be able to extract the package...
[04:54] <chris_> alrighty thanks for the info im out
[04:54] <citrusflavord> riotkittie: isnt that what the guys who first started using them in conjuction called it
[04:54] <riotkittie> prisone1: prisone1: what kind of card do you have?
[04:55] <danielax> zce: `man dpkg` may help if you haven't tried already
[04:55] <riotkittie> citrusflavord: idunno
[04:55] <AzzClown> i'm having problems with the (*&^*& vmmon in vmware server after I took the gutsy update... any info?
[04:56] <prisone1> riotkittie: Intel Pro 4965 AGN
[04:56] <musikgoat> AzzClown: i had issuestoo
[04:56] <riotkittie> AzzClown: ask in #ubuntu+1
[04:56] <riotkittie> prisone1: ah. not familiar with it, sorry
[04:56] <prisone1> :(
[04:56] <MitchM> Pelo, do you know how to pipe data into sed?
[04:57] <danielax> MitchM: whatever | sed 'command'
[04:57] <Pelo> MitchM, read above , I donT' knwo how to use sed
[04:58] <guru> does anyone know of any sources to get the "LaCie LightScribe Labeler" package for ubuntu that allows you to burn lightscribe media?
[04:58] <prisone1> When I installed my Ubunbtu, under mount point for one of my NTFS partitions, I chose "do not use". So it doesn't show up under Computer.. But I can access it from Terminal. How do I bring it back so it shows up in Computer?
[04:58] <danielax> MitchM: eg to change all occurances of "foo" to "bar" in in.txt and save to out.txt: sed 's/foo/bar/g' < in.txt > out.txt
[04:58] <guru> alien apparently can't work out the dependencies with the rpm
[04:58] <MitchM> danielax: is whatever the name of my file?
[04:58] <Pelo> guru,  did you search for lightscribe in synaptic ?
[04:58] <guru> Pelo: sure did - nada
[04:58] <guru> apt is my first stop; google second
[04:58] <Pelo> guru,  get the source then and compile it manualy
[04:59] <guru> Pelo: i can't
[04:59] <danielax> guru: cdrecord had an option once upon a time
[04:59] <danielax> but beats me where that went now
[04:59] <Pelo> guru, can'T or won't
[04:59] <guru> Pelo: can't
[04:59] <overclucker> dosjv
[04:59] <Pelo> guru, why ?
[04:59] <danielax> MitchM: whatever is a command that outputs data. for using files, see the other example
[04:59] <GhostFiend> -wrt
[05:00] <guru> Pelo: ask the author of the software
[05:01] <nomaS> hi anybody know which is the name to convert files *.ogg to *.avi ?
[05:01] <linos> pelo
[05:01] <linos> I think I fixed it
[05:01] <Pelo> linos , congrats
[05:01] <ivanhoe> hello evryone
[05:01] <linos> pelo: thanks
[05:02] <manicnerd> i'm getting an error from ntfs-config telling me to use the force mount option....i dont know anything about it...  if my fstab looks something like this:  UUID=78D03F26D03EE9D0 /media/hdb1 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 1  ...... what would the force look like?
[05:02] <Pelo> guru,  http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadsection/pse/   2 min on google
[05:02] <ivanhoe> ihave problems with a acer aspire laptop
[05:02] <MitchM> danielax: whats the command that outputs data?
[05:02] <ivanhoe> 5310
[05:02] <Pelo> linos,  how ?
[05:02] <scguy318> ivanhoe: what problems
[05:02] <ivanhoe> i dont have audio
[05:02] <scguy318> !sound
[05:02] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:02] <ivanhoe> ubuntu dont install audio and wirelles
[05:02] <manicnerd> !ntfs-config
[05:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs-config - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:02] <ivanhoe> but
[05:02] <csc`> nomaS: mencoder
[05:02] <ivanhoe> the important its the audio
[05:02] <guru> Pelo: yes, and try the link titled "Simple Labeler Debian Install Package (6.7 MB)" - it's a dead link
[05:02] <ivanhoe> i check
[05:03] <ivanhoe> ubuntu put a ateros resticted  codec
[05:03] <Pelo> !info ntfs-config | manicnerd
[05:03] <ubotu> manicnerd: ntfs-config: Enable/disable write support for any NTFS devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.5-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 41 kB, installed size 432 kB
[05:03] <ivanhoe> but i dont have soun
[05:03] <ivanhoe> if you can helpme i thanks very much
[05:03] <scguy318> ivanhoe: what chipset
[05:03] <manicnerd> thanks pelo:
[05:03] <manicnerd> :)
[05:03] <scguy318> ivanhoe: and have you read the Ubuntu Wiki link
[05:03] <ivanhoe> ubuntu wiki link?
[05:03] <linos> pelo:  what i did was comment out the only line in a file called mfc3360ccupswrapper.prerm and then typed dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq mfc3360ccupswrapper
[05:04] <scguy318> !sound
[05:04] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:04] <scguy318> that one
[05:04] <Pelo> linos,  very neat well done and well researched
[05:04] <ivanhoe> how can i chech the chipset?
[05:04] <nomaS> thanks csc`
[05:04] <linos> pelo: and it uninstalled the mfc3360ccupswrapper which was causing synaptic to crash
[05:04] <scguy318> ivanhoe: look in your mixer devices
[05:04] <linos> pelo: thank you
[05:05] <cgineilhan> Sys Admins, does anyone know a good tool that let me broadcasting keystrokes to multi console
[05:05] <prisone1> Please help.. One of my NTFS volumes don't show up in Computer
[05:05] <ivanhoe> well i have 2 opcione
[05:05] <spenser> I think i found a bug
[05:05] <ivanhoe> hda alsa....
[05:05] <ivanhoe> a moment the lap is restrt
[05:05] <spenser> serious bug
[05:05] <spenser> on the beta cd
[05:05] <Pelo> guru, http://www.filecrunch.com/file/~1j16cu
[05:05] <vulcanius> spenser, file a bug report
[05:06] <spenser> If i try to chmod using the nautilus->properties it chmods my entire filesystem
[05:06] <spenser> to gid 1000
[05:06] <spenser> It's done it twice now
[05:06] <guru> Pelo: thank you kindly!
[05:06] <linos> Pelo: thanks
[05:06] <spenser> I mean its a BIG bug thats why I feel i should ask before doing anything
[05:06] <Pelo> guru,  who needs your kindness,  money is makes the world go round
[05:07] <Pelo> !enter | spenser
[05:07] <ubotu> spenser: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:07] <twocarlo> Pelo: thats true
[05:07] <guru> Pelo: heh, wish i could help there
[05:08] <spenser> Will do
[05:08] <danielax> gak - what's the irssi keystroke to scroll up?
[05:08] <guru> Pelo: now if you could find out how to get my tv tuner card working that in itself would entice me to make a cheritable contribution
[05:08] <Flannel> danielax: alt-n if pageup doesnt work
[05:08] <Flannel> danielax: alt-p will scroll back down
[05:09] <Pelo> guru,  goto the forum and do a search for your tvcard model  www.ubuntuforums.org
[05:09] <danielax> cheers, Flannel
[05:09] <guru> Pelo: i've done that and there appears to be support but i've tried every card type for the cx8800 driver and nothing works
[05:09] <vulcanius> Pelo, I want a Master of the Inode badge thingy for my belt.
[05:09] <danielax> MitchM: sorry for the lag - lots of commands output data, it just depends what you're trying to do. more information would be helpful
[05:10] <Pelo> guru, you'll have to digg deeper then
[05:10] <guru> Pelo: i have a feeling that this particular model doesn't work [yet] 
[05:10] <MitchM> danielax: I found what i was looking for, it ended up being cat
[05:10] <dissection> Sorry, got disconnected. When I installed Ubuntu yesterday, I wanted to disable one of my partitions that contained only the Sony Vaio Recovery software and I chose "do not use". But after having installed Ubuntu, I saw that it disabled a different NTFS partition installed. How do I bring it back?
[05:11] <guru> if i can't find any information on it i might try to hack the cx8800 module over the weekend
[05:11] <MitchM> danielax: thanks for your help though :)
[05:11] <lucashungaro> Hello there. How can I set my user as the root user? Every document I open on a editor on gnome is read-only, I have to open the terminal, type su and my password and then use vi.... that's annoying. My user already belongs to the root group. Also, when I try to log into gnome with root, the system says that I can't open a session with this user...
[05:11] <danielax> dissection: there's probaly an easier way, but you could edit fstab
[05:12] <danielax> lucashungaro: root users are generally a bad idea. what are you trying to edit that needs root permissions?
[05:12] <dissection> danielax: How? I mean, where do I find fstab?
[05:12] <Pelo> lucashungaro, are those documents in your home folder ?
[05:12] <lucashungaro> danielax: my Rails app files
[05:12] <vbabiy> Hey Pelo, how are you
[05:12] <danielax> dissection: /etc/fstab. If you're not familiar with it, I probably don't recommend it. 1 moment
[05:13] <Pelo> hello vbabiy  , so so
[05:13] <lucashungaro> Pelo: no, they're at a folder I've created to store my projects on /
[05:13] <Pelo> lucashungaro, that's why
[05:13] <Flannel> lucashungaro: Why don't you give yourself permission to access that folder then?
[05:13] <dissection> It said command not found
[05:13] <Pelo> lucashungaro,  give yourself  read /write permission to that folder
[05:14] <lucashungaro> Flannel: gnomes's interface doesn't let me do it, how can I do it on the terminal?
[05:14] <Flannel> lucashungaro: chmod/chown changes the permissions and ownership, respectively.
[05:14] <Flannel> !chmod | lucashungaro
[05:14] <ubotu> lucashungaro: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[05:14] <danielax> lucashungaro: sudo will be needed
[05:14] <danielax> dissection: I'm sure that there's a graphical tool to do it... I just don't know what
[05:15] <lucashungaro> danielax: ok
[05:15] <dissection> :[
[05:15] <sethbrown> try 'sudo chmod 777 mydirectory mydirectory/*'
[05:15] <danielax> ppl: graphical fstab editor?
[05:16] <ziyax> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-349220.html
[05:16] <Pelo> danielax,  in your dreams
[05:16] <dissection> heh
[05:16] <danielax> Pelo: i was sure one exisited...
[05:16] <ech0dish> what? cheap refurbished ubuntu desktops? http://stores.ebay.com/Houston-CompCycle
[05:16] <danielax> oh well
[05:16] <danielax> dissection: as root, edit /etc/fstab
[05:16] <Pelo> danielax, there might be but I doubt it
[05:16] <danielax> the details are accessible through man fstab
[05:16] <dissection> I checked it out. I don't know what to do in there
[05:17] <dissection> Maybe I should just reinstall Ubuntu
[05:17] <ziyax> dissection
[05:17] <ziyax> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-349220.html read this.
[05:17] <danielax> dissection: not just yet ;)
[05:17] <ech0dish> dissection, just buy a comp with ubuntu on it already :P
[05:17] <sethbrown> dissection: can you see the partition in /etc/fstab? try 'sudo less /etc/fstab'
[05:18] <dissection> I would have if they sold this model with Ubuntu.
[05:18] <dissection> I had to unnecessarily pay for Vista that I'm never gonna use :[
[05:18] <lucashungaro> OK, chmod 777 ./projects -R worked, thanks Pelo, danielax, Flannel and sethbrown
[05:18] <dissection> Yeah I see it in fstab
[05:18] <ech0dish> yeah thats why i always custom build, unless its a laptop...
[05:18] <sethbrown> when you do 'sudo df', does it appear?
[05:18] <Phrozen_One_> what files are "safe" to delete off the daily gutsy build to make it fit on a cd
[05:18] <dissection> It is a laptop.
[05:18] <Pelo> lucashungaro,  777 gives access to every persons on the comp,  use 755 instead
[05:19] <ech0dish> its kinda messed up how people can't even buy a laptop without paying microsoft something.
[05:19] <lucashungaro> Pelo: that's ok for now, I'm the unique user, it's my home pc
[05:19] <dissection> sethbrown: I get this... UUID=C00AD56A0AD55E4A /windows        ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[05:19] <preaction> ech0dish, bue a mac
[05:19] <lucashungaro> Pelo: but thanks anyway
[05:19] <ech0dish> hahaha
[05:19] <ech0dish> mac..
[05:19] <doctormo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams/GroupBuy
[05:20] <logreeval> Hi, I am getting a AMD athlon x2 6000+ processor and was wondering if anyone could suggest a fan to keep it cool?
[05:20] <sethbrown> try 'sudo mount /windows'
[05:20] <ech0dish> i'd never buy a mac
[05:20] <eythian> Hi, my upgrade to gutsy failed half way through installing packages, what's the best way to resume it? just apt-get dist-upgrade, or is there a better way?
[05:20] <danielax> eythian: that should do
[05:20] <dissection> sethbrown: Its already mounted. I can browse through the files from Terminal. It just doesn't show up under "Computer", cause I chose "do not use" while Installing Ubuntu.
[05:20] <danielax> it may ask you to run a special dpkg command, but it ussally works fine
[05:21] <danielax> Phrozen_One_: if you are trying to make a livecd, the process is not as simple as just burning a cd
[05:21] <sethbrown> ouch! so ubuntu is hiding it from you? that sucks.
[05:21] <eythian> danielax: cheers, trying that now. It has to redownload 500Mb, I guess packages were updated in the interim or something.
[05:22] <danielax> eythian: eww - well as long as you're not on dialup like me :)
[05:22] <ech0dish> mac laptops = over priced and designed for slow computing
[05:22] <eythian> danielax: I'm downloading at 1Mbyte/s :)
[05:22] <dissection> sethbrown: Yeah. It was the other partition that I wanted to hide cause it contains only the Vaio Recovery software. I ended up having the wrong one hidden.
[05:22] <danielax> eythian: *grr*
[05:22] <sethbrown> I don't have a clue how to fix that, sorry.
[05:23] <dissection> :<
[05:23] <eythian> danielax: I'm at university (in .nz) and found a sources mirror on a high-speed research network we're connected to, in .de
[05:23] <danielax> dissection: you should just need to change the first column of the fstab entry for the windows entry
[05:23] <sethbrown> it may have set the partition type to hidden. I know how to change that.
[05:23] <danielax> don't quite know how
[05:23] <danielax> eythian: and i'm in a broadband blackspot in au
[05:23] <rw1712> I have two hard drives, win with ubuntu one with win2k. when I boot up with ubuntu as master neither of them will load. why is that? grub doesn't load either, but grub will load if the windows drive is unplugged.
[05:23] <rw1712> *one
[05:23] <dissection> Change it to what?
[05:23] <sethbrown> but it's not something I'd suggest if you haven't done it before.
[05:24] <scguy318> eythian: i'm jel0s :D
[05:24] <eythian> danielax: yeah, that'll do it. Friends of mine in one of those (new Brisbane) got ISDN installed.
[05:24] <danielax> rw1712: you need to install grub on the ubuntu disk
[05:24] <eythian> s/new/near/
[05:24] <sethbrown> you can change a partition type to hidden using a tool like 'cfdisk' or 'fdisk'. It works but if you mess up, you can lose data.
[05:24] <danielax> !grub|rw1712
[05:24] <ubotu> rw1712: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:25] <rw1712> danielax, grub is installed on ubuntu already
[05:25] <danielax> rw1712: hmm - that wasn't as useful as I though
[05:25] <Pelo> rw1711,  grub comes in two parts phase one instals one the boot hdd, phase two in the ubuntu partition,  the best way to so set the ubuntu hdd to boot in the bios so that the installer installs both  phases on the same hdd
[05:25] <danielax> rw1712: Windows HDD is the primary one, right
[05:25] <Pelo> rw1711, you can use the grub super cd to fix that
[05:25] <sethbrown> if you're game, try 'sudo cfdisk' and highlight the partition, then change the type looking CAREFULLY through the list of types.
[05:25] <rw1712> no, ubuntu is master
[05:25] <Pelo> !grub |  rw1711  last links bottom of thepage
[05:25] <ubotu> rw1711  last links bottom of thepage: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:25] <danielax> or grub-install
[05:25] <rw1712> windows is slave
[05:26] <dissection> So, anyone else know how to fix this?
[05:27] <danielax> dissection: its a bit hard to knwo without actually poking around at your computer physically
[05:27] <danielax> dissection: I would suggest heading over to your local Linux Users Group.
[05:27] <ech0dish> local linux users group?
[05:27] <rw1712> thanks ubotu will try
[05:27] <Pelo> ech0dish, what about them ?
[05:28] <ech0dish> what is it?
[05:28] <Pelo> rw1711, ubotu is a bot
[05:28] <harris2004> hello
[05:28] <harris2004> i gota problem
[05:28] <harris2004> my ubuntu doesnt load
[05:28] <harris2004> i tried evrything
[05:28] <harris2004> recovery
[05:28] <danielax> !ask | harris
[05:28] <ubotu> harris: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:28] <harris2004> nothng worked
[05:28] <Pelo> !loco | ech0dish
[05:28] <ubotu> ech0dish: Information on Ubuntu Local Community Teams is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams
[05:28] <ech0dish> format and reinstall
[05:28] <harris2004> i have a windows parttin
[05:28] <harris2004> as wekk
[05:28] <harris2004> well
[05:28] <Pelo> !enter | harris2004
[05:28] <ubotu> harris2004: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:28] <danielax> harris2004: what do you mean by "doesnt load". Be as detailed as possible
[05:29] <harris2004> when it loads
[05:29] <harris2004> only 2 bars load
[05:29] <harris2004> and then it stops
[05:29] <harris2004> same win recovery mode
[05:29] <Pelo> harris2004, STOP USING THE ENTER KEY FOR PUNCTUATION
[05:29] <dissection> ;[
[05:29] <danielax> harris2004: windows also fails to load? Is that right?
[05:30] <harris2004> nope
[05:30] <citrusflavord> lol
[05:30] <Pelo> danielax,  he means same with the recovery mode
[05:30] <danielax> ok. my mistake
[05:30] <Pelo> harris2004,  is ubuntu installed or are you talking about the live cd ?
[05:30] <citrusflavord> harris, use the five word rule
[05:30] <ech0dish> is there a houston group?
[05:30] <danielax> harris2004: when loading ubuntu, when the graphical screen starts, press ctrl-alt-f1
[05:30] <danielax> ech0dish: googl houston linux users group
[05:30] <harris2004> i had a hawrdware change and it only affected ubuntu
[05:31] <harris2004> hardware*
[05:31] <ech0dish> !google houston linux users group
[05:31] <Pelo> harris2004,  re-install
[05:31] <ech0dish> meh
[05:31] <dissection> !fstab
[05:31] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[05:31] <ech0dish> bot sucks here
[05:31] <eythian> harris2004: have you tried to boot with no splash screen to see where it stops?
[05:31] <dissection> !Partitions
[05:31] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[05:31] <danielax> dissection: if you want to get the bot to talk to you only /msg ubotu !whatever
[05:32] <dissection> okay.
[05:32] <kelsey> this is wierd
[05:32] <rw1712> I'm having difficulty using the terminal to install grub into my windows HDR
[05:32] <danielax> rw1712: what command are you using?
[05:32] <citrusflavord> eythian> never would of thought of that one, nice
[05:32] <Pelo> rw1711, on the last link ubotu gave you , toward the bottom of the page there is a link for a super grub cd,  use that it it much eaiser
[05:33] <Zav> hey all, i'm running feisty fawn and I'm having an issue where in order to connect to local smb shares i have to first connect to the internet then logout and relogin, any thoughts?
[05:33] <rw1712> danielax, so far I'm up to "sudo grub";)
[05:33] <rw1712> Pelo, my internet is too slow to download a cd
[05:33] <danielax> rw1712: man grub-install ins your friend
[05:33] <rw1712> man grub-install?
[05:33] <aTypical> When downloading the 7.10 release do I want the beta or tribe 5?
[05:33] <Pelo> rw1712, it's not a full cd, only a few megs , just too much for a floppy
[05:33] <danielax> rw1712: but make sure you have a backup! grub-install is very good a rendering systems unbootable
[05:34] <PointyThingsHurt> Feh. apcupsd hates me
[05:34] <danielax> rw1712: the cd is probably the better idea then. i also throught it was big :|
[05:34] <dissection> Isn't there any other way than using fstab, to unhide the partition from "Computer"?
[05:34] <rw1712> alright I will try the cd
[05:34] <ubuntnoob> greetings.  I've loaded Ubun Ult on a  etl3 partition on hd0 (winxp on dif partition on same drive), but I don't think that grub was installed correctly.  It def doesn't give me the opp to choose what os to boot from.  Any ideas?  I've been doing alot of research and tried installing multiple times.  I think it stems from my lack of knowledge of how ETL3, swap, and NTFS interact with the MBR.
[05:35] <jmorse30> what channel can I go to to resolve a Compiz fusion issue
[05:35] <danielax> jmorse30: #compiz-fusion, IIRC
[05:35] <jmorse30> thanks
[05:36] <zengen> Does md5sum create a log anywhere?
[05:36] <dissection> Anyone?
[05:37] <danielax> zengen: no
[05:37] <heartsblood> is anybody here familiar with the ttf-opensymbol bug?
[05:37] <zengen> Okay, thank you.
[05:37] <danielax> zengen: if you are looking for something to check if files are changing, try an intrusion detection system, like AIDE
[05:37] <Pelo> heartsblood, details ?
[05:38] <rda> why doesn't the gnome xchat client support simple commands, like /list -min 30
[05:38] <rda> how else are we supposed to find chat rooms if no gui is available
[05:38] <zengen> Nah, just checked an iso that 1 error and it scrolled off before I could see what it was.  Thought it would be quicker with a log then running it again.
[05:38] <Pelo> rda,  cause xchat-gnome sucks,  install xchat regular instead
[05:38] <rda> yeah i have it, decided i'd try this version
[05:38] <rda> ridiculous
[05:38] <Fiveohthree> hey all i need help with my /var/www file.. wont let me create files.
[05:38] <Pelo> rda,  check in add remove
[05:39] <Pelo> Fiveohthree, change the folder permissiion to 755
[05:39] <dissection> Anyone know how to unhide a partition?
[05:39] <rda> ...don't worry Pelo, i know.  i'm wondering if anyone knows why the developers thought it would be a good idea to remove the implementation
[05:39] <danielax> Fiveohthree: that's because of unix permissions. You need to create files with root/admin
[05:39] <heartsblood> apprently the package is broken in that it wont update X fonts if the fonts are older than the package.  The fix seems simple enough, all I had to do was touch the X11 dirs that were 'old' however I saw a recomended fix that I couldn't get to work and I was wondering why.
[05:39] <Pelo> rda,  I think xchat-gnome is meant to be a slimmed down version for ultra-noobs
[05:39] <eythian> can anyone tell me what I should do about this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39619/
[05:40] <SerratedX> pardon me, is there any specific tech support chan?
[05:40] <SerratedX> Well, I think the topic talks for itself
[05:40] <Pelo> SerratedX, this would be it
[05:40] <Fiveohthree> danielax, should i login as root?
[05:40] <heartsblood> acording to the deb mailing list, 1 of the recomendations was to type for dir in `/usr/share/fonts/X11 ...`; do; touch $dir; done; but the return I kept getting was /usr/share/fonts/X11 is a dir.  what did I type wrong?
[05:40] <scguy318> Fiveohthree: no, no, and no :)
[05:40] <Selenolycus> I just installed Ubuntu Server Ed. and it doesn't seem to be resolving an IP.
[05:40] <scguy318> !root | Fiveohthree
[05:40] <danielax> Fiveohthree: no, use sudo
[05:40] <ubotu> Fiveohthree: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[05:41] <Pelo> Selenolycus, thebest thing to do is to ask periodicaly and hope someone knows the answer or check in the forum , www.ubuntuforums.org
[05:41] <dissection> Can it be done in gconf-editor?
[05:41] <Fiveohthree> how do i make the file other than right clicking and create document
[05:41] <usr13>  !search 7.10
[05:41] <ubotu> Found: gutsy, beta, kompozer, tribe6, final
[05:41] <Pelo> Selenolycus, you might also try  #networking
[05:41] <danielax> dissection: no.
[05:42] <danielax> Fiveohthree: use the terminal. It's not that scary ;)
[05:42] <heartsblood> Fiveohthree: mkdir blah
[05:42] <Pelo> heartsblood, mkdir if for folders
[05:42] <SerratedX> so, I have a problem with ubuntu loading but than crashing X because of a missing/corrupt file. Anyone have some time to help me out? The last thing that I had running before the crash was wine with Starcraft. My screen resolution than changed to 800x600, I told the unit to restart, and now it won't load X
[05:42] <ubuntnoob> REPASTE 1 - Thanks for your patience:  greetings.  I've loaded Ubun Ult on a  etl3 partition on hd0 (winxp on dif partition on same drive), but I don't think that grub was installed correctly.  It def doesn't give me the opp to choose what os to boot from.  Any ideas?  I've been doing alot of research and tried installing multiple times.  I think it stems from my lack of knowledge of how ETL3, swap, and NTFS interact with the MBR.
[05:42] <Fiveohthree> but then it wont let me open it cause id dosent belong to me
[05:42] <netham45> is it possible to install X(just need the X server, no dm or anything) off of an Ubuntu desktop CD on an Ubuntu server install?
[05:42] <heartsblood> Pelo: my mistake
[05:42] <Pelo> SerratedX, start the  recovery mode and try   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:43] <dissection> So, nobody knows?
[05:43] <overclucker> save
[05:43] <overclucker> oops
[05:43] <danielax> Fiveohthree: "sudo chown youruser:youruser /var/www/whatever"
[05:43] <overclucker> heh
[05:43] <danielax> dissection: nope. We can't really tell without seeing your computer - find a local linux users group
[05:43] <Pelo> netham45,  I think you can install it from the serer cd as well,  sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[05:43] <usr13> Hypothetical question:  If a user does not want to wait for the repos to get OO 2.3, what would be the best way to upgrade?
[05:43] <dissection> blah
[05:43] <dissection> I'm reinstalling Ubuntu
[05:44] <usr13> Should one uninstall 2.2 first? or ...?
[05:44] <danielax> netham45: the alternate cd is your friend here
[05:44] <AzzClown> are there any alternatives to virtualbox/vmware?
[05:44] <danielax> ubuntnoob: ubuntu ultimate isn't supported here...
[05:44] <Pelo> usr13, yes
[05:44] <danielax> ubuntnoob: (IIRC)
[05:44] <usr13> Has anyone here upgraded to OO 2.3 yet?
[05:44] <SerratedX> ty, I shal be back shortly with the results
[05:44] <netham45> danielax: I have Ubuntu server installed and configured, but I don't want to loose it
[05:44] <danielax> AzzClown: yes, but it depends what you're trying to do
[05:44] <usr13> Has anyone tried efax plugin for OO 2.3?
[05:45] <danielax> netham45: then apt-get install xserver-xorg
[05:45] <Pelo> usr13, ppl here are still using oo 2.2
[05:45] <ubuntnoob> danielax - thanks, but isn't it the same thing, especially the install?  Or are the versions that diff?
[05:45] <netham45> ok
[05:46] <danielax> AzzClown: Things like Xen, UML, bochs, etc, dpending on what you want
[05:46] <excalibas> is there a way to turn compiz off and on when i like ir?
[05:46] <Selenolycus> Well how can I set my IP and DNS using config files only?
[05:46] <usr13>  Any ideas on how long it will take before the repositories to pick up OO 2.3?
[05:46] <danielax> excalibas: system->preferences->desktop effects?
[05:46] <Fiveohthree> scguy318 so mkdir is directory. how do i make file?
[05:46] <Fiveohthree> mkfile?
[05:46] <simplechat_> excalibas, i'd just like a way to turn it on :(
[05:46] <Pelo> ubuntnoob,  it's a matter of principel,    ubuntu ultimate is just a flaky repack of ubuntu with a butload of software as part of the default install,  you can get all of those from ubuntu regular ,  if hte guy realy wants to make his own release he can make his own channel
[05:46] <simplechat_> Fiveohthree, touch
[05:46] <usser> Fiveohthree: echo "" > filename
[05:46] <danielax> Selenolycus: /etc/resolv.conf stores dns
[05:47] <simplechat_> Fiveohthree, touch randomfile
[05:47] <bruenig> usr13, repositories aren't updated between releases
[05:47] <bruenig> Fiveohthree, touch
[05:47] <Hilikus_> hey guys, im i supposed to create 1 user for every daemon so that it runs the daemon and not have to run it as root?
[05:47] <danielax> Fiveohthree: just open with an editor, like gedit, nano, vi, etc
[05:47] <Dr_willis> other then just making an empty file.
[05:47] <Pelo> Fiveohthree, if you want to make a file  , just open your app with a black file
[05:47] <excalibas> danielax, thankx
[05:47] <Pelo> blank
[05:47] <danielax> Hilikus_: that's automatically done for you if you install the daemons through apt-get/synaptic/install programs
[05:48] <bruenig> it isn't automatically done for him, they all run as root
[05:48] <Selenolycus> danielax: what about setting my IP etc?
[05:48] <ubuntnoob> Pelo - Gotcha, I after messing with it a bit, I noticed I wouldn't use half of the stuff added.  I just wanted Beryl.
[05:48] <excalibas> simplechat_, it was not hard for me, you have 3d working?
[05:48] <Selenolycus> DHCP
[05:48] <teKnofreak> Selenolycus, check Network Manager
[05:48] <usr13> bruenig, Really?  -> Repositories are NOT updated between releases?
[05:48] <Selenolycus> teKnofreak: This is a CLI-only system.
[05:48] <Pelo> ubuntnoob,  you can get beryl easily enough from the repos
[05:48] <bruenig> usr13, right
[05:48] <danielax> bruenig: oh - well, then I stand corrected :)
[05:48] <teKnofreak> Selenolycus, man ifconfig
[05:48] <mmkassem> usr13, if you are interested in oo.o 2.3 you might upgrade to gusty *beta*
[05:48] <Dr_willis> usr13,  thats how ubuntus 6 mo release cycle works.
[05:48] <Hilikus_> danielax root 4675 0.0 0.4 7836 2304 ? Ss 23:37 0:00 sshd: hilikus [priv] 
[05:48] <danielax> Selenolycus: ifconfig, dhclient, route are all your friends
[05:48] <Pelo> usr13,  not fro new versions , just for updates
[05:48] <teKnofreak> Selenolycus, man route --> gateway
[05:49] <usr13> bruenig, Then where do all the updates come from?
[05:49] <bruenig> usr13, security updates only
[05:49] <Hilikus_> it seems to me that sshd is ran by root no?
[05:49] <danielax> Hilikus_: sshd needs to run as root to listen on port 22
[05:49] <Dr_willis> !backports
[05:49] <bruenig> Hilikus_, it is supposed to be
[05:49] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[05:49] <Hilikus_> ok, i see
[05:49] <simplechat_> excalibas, yes, but notthis
[05:49] <bruenig> Hilikus_, all of the daemons are supposed to run as root
[05:49] <ubuntnoob> Pelo - I know I'm just lazy and wanted an install that had everything that I want and the things that I didn't know I wanted.   I'll check the other channel or do more research.  Thanks and good luck.
[05:49] <Hilikus_> bruenig thats no security issue??
[05:49] <ashzilla> Whst are daemons
[05:49] <bruenig> Hilikus_, why would it be
[05:49] <usr13> Pelo, I thought that would be an update;  OO 2.2 to OO 2.3   ???
[05:49] <danielax> Hilikus_: most daemons "drop priveledges" as soon as they can, which reduces the risk
[05:49] <excalibas> simplechat_, i just installed using synaptic
[05:49] <Selenolycus> danielax: dhclient worked, thanks
[05:49] <ehc> how can I get the insert key to work? it doesn't do anything when I press it.
[05:50] <Hilikus_> someone exploits a bug in the daemon and has root
[05:50] <bruenig> usr13, if you want updates that quickly, you may have picked the wrong distro
[05:50] <usser> usr13: security updates are in the third-fourth digit
[05:50] <Pelo> usr13,  no ,  to 2.2.1 ifthere ever were such a thing for a bug fix or a security issue but not to a new version
[05:50] <danielax> Hilikus_: yes, but without root sshd won't work
[05:50] <Hilikus_> cool got it
[05:50] <Hilikus_> thanks guys
[05:50] <danielax> so you have to choose security vs functionality
[05:51] <usr13> bruenig, I was under the understanding that Ubuntu was the most advanced.
[05:51] <bruenig> usr13, no, it is intentionally old for stability reasons
[05:51] <danielax> ehc: the insert key doesn't write a character, it changes from insert mode to overwrite mode
[05:51] <ehc> danielax, okay
[05:52] <teKnofreak> usr13, if you want the bleeding edge, you can install manually, ubuntu focuses on stability more than bleeding edge
[05:52] <Fiveohthree> i think im screwint this up....  sudo chown root:brandon /var/www     ??
[05:52] <danielax> ehc: try it in a text editor - write a whole bunch of spelling mistakes, press insert and try to correct them, then try without insert
[05:52] <danielax> Fiveohthree: yes - try brandon:brandon
[05:52] <teKnofreak> Fiveohthree, if you are trying it for web, then the owner should be www-data (IIRC)
[05:52] <bruenig> the stability argument is a bit weak, more they fear packager screwups imo, but nevertheless, if you want up to date software in a convenient way, you want another distro
[05:52] <Fiveohthree> my head is gana blow
[05:52] <ehc> danielax, okay it is working now. thanks.
[05:52] <usser> usr13: see linux is built in such a way that upgrades may make the system unstable, cause a lot of stuff depends of other stuff so if u update one thing it'll pull 50 other libraries with it, which may mean some apps that needed older versions of that libs stop working
[05:53] <danielax> teKnofreak: (yes - that's correct)
[05:53] <bruenig> usser, hardly
[05:53] <excalibas> simplechat_, have you tried compiz --replace?
[05:53] <usr13> teKnofreak, Well, OO 2.3 is not beta?
[05:53] <Pelo> bruenig, I since ubuntu is intended to be linux for the masses I donT' think they want to chance unstable packages
[05:53] <simplechat_> mhm
[05:53] <danielax> bruenig: thats right, you have to choose stability vs bleeding edge
[05:53] <bruenig> Pelo, unstable packages right is different than unstable software though is what I meant
[05:53] <simplechat_> composite extentions are not enabled
[05:54] <xidox> c.cl
[05:54] <bruenig> right I just want to make the distinction between packagers ineptitude and software failings
[05:54] <bruenig> it is more of a packager thing than a software thing
[05:54] <danielax> ubuntu picked stability. if you want to live on the edge, try the gutsy beta
[05:54] <bruenig> danielax, you misunderstand the issue
[05:55] <danielax> bruenig: sorry - what's the issue again?
[05:55] <bruenig> danielax, it's a fear of ubuntu's own incompetence that creates the biggest hesitation, not of the updated software per se
[05:55] <Pelo> danielax, actualy bleeding would be  tribe 1 , beta are usualy fairly stabble, they'Re more like last step bug search
[05:55] <usr13> danielax, I'm all for stability, it's just that there are some features in OO 2.3 that I want
[05:55] <danielax> bruenig: I'm not sure I agree
[05:55] <overclucker> bruenig: nice word choice, heh ineptitude
[05:55] <bruenig> overclucker, all distros have it, they depend on packagers, packagers screw up
[05:56] <danielax> Pelo: I stand corrected. I'm a stability person :)
[05:56] <AzzClown> is apt-inept a command now?
[05:56] <bruenig> overclucker, but there is a significant difference between the packager of the new OO screwing up and the new OO being unstable
[05:56] <tarelerulz> Is there java for amd 64 processors ?
[05:56] <excalibas> simplechat_, have you installed emerald?
[05:56] <simplechat_> emrtald?
[05:56] <danielax> AzzClown: right up there with apt-get moo
[05:56] <netham45> is there any way to extract packages from a CD?
[05:56] <simplechat_> emerald?
[05:56] <excalibas> simplechat_, yes sorry
[05:56] <Fiveohthree> k i got the touch... made file, but owner is root
[05:56] <simplechat_> what is it?
[05:56] <Fiveohthree> wouldnt owner be my login? or is cause i used sudo
[05:56] <excalibas> simplechat_, i have that
[05:57] <Pelo> simplechat_, emerald is the decorator for compiz,   similar to metacity for gnome
[05:57] <danielax> Fiveohthree: chown is your friend again :)
[05:57] <eythian> tarelerulz: yes
[05:57] <bruenig> danielax, I assure you, there are rolling release distros which are constantly up to date, and they have no more problems, and in fact tend to have less due to the lack of enormous upgrading of all package simultaneously
[05:57] <AzzClown> gutsy is fine.  i blame it for my vmware server but its probably something i did
[05:57] <netham45> I want to extract all of the X packages from a server CD to put onto my memory stick to put on my server that has no internet connection or cdrom drive.
[05:57] <simplechat_> so it needs to be installed?
[05:57] <Fiveohthree> did..  sudo chown brandon:brandon /var/www/test.html
[05:57] <netham45> anyone know how?
[05:57] <Fiveohthree> did nothing
[05:57] <excalibas> simplechat_, i think so
[05:58] <simplechat_> what else do i need?
[05:58] <Pelo> netham45,   check in /pool/x/ ....
[05:58] <danielax> bruenig: well it's a distro-philosophy difference. Ubuntu/Canonical wanted defined releases, not rolling releases
[05:58] <teKnofreak> netham45, use Synpatic, read the CD as a repos source and download only the packages you want
[05:58] <tsukasa> hey what are some of the major upcoming linux developer conferences?
[05:58] <eythian> netham45: perhaps look into aptoncd
[05:58] <netham45> aptoncd
[05:58] <citrusflavord> what does var stand for?
[05:58] <netham45> gah, wrong window
[05:58] <bruenig> danielax, right but my point is that, it isn't new software that is unstable, it is packagers who screw up that is unstable
[05:58] <tarelerulz> I went to java and found one that says  java x64 and when I went to see how to install it  I got this page http://www.java.com/en/download/help/5000011400.xml
[05:58] <mmkassem> Fivohthree, chown does not return a result if the command was successful
[05:58] <danielax> bruenig: I disagree, but I don't think it's relevant to this channel
[05:59] <Fiveohthree> mmkassem i checked properties and still root
[05:59] <danielax> tarelerulz: try the ubuntu-restriced-extras package
[05:59] <bruenig> danielax, you can't just assert disagreement, this is not even an opinion based analysis
[05:59] <tarelerulz> It says red hate on it and SUSE that mean it is made for them or they just example of 64 bit os
[05:59] <danielax> tarelerulz: that will get you java, mp3s, dvds, flash :)
[05:59] <Pelo> !java | tarelerulz
[05:59] <ubotu> tarelerulz: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[05:59] <overclucker> bruenig: so very true, however it's not all the packageers fault
[05:59] <mmkassem> Fiveohthree, try the command: ls -l         from the terminal
[05:59] <bruenig> danielax, they fear what happened with X a while back, when the packager screwed up and people had to roam around console for a while, that X update was not even close to having problems, the package did
[06:00] <excalibas> simplechat_, i dunno, maybe some compiz pluggins but i am not sure
[06:00] <marnik`> Even after my gaim account is "available", it shows as "offline". Any idea what could be wrong?
[06:00] <simplechat_> k
[06:00] <Fiveohthree> OMG had to refresh i guess
[06:00] <Fiveohthree> it worked
[06:00] <danielax> bruenig: I accept that packager error does happen. I dispute that it is the primary source of error.
[06:00] <Fiveohthree> now should i leave as brandon, or put too root when done?
[06:00] <bruenig> ubuntu is a very high stakes distro though for the reason that it caters to those with little knowledge of linux underpinnings, if a bad packager screws up just once, it is really damaging to the user base
[06:01] <citrusflavord> can i get a explaination of a spool, string and hash files?
[06:01] <danielax> Fiveohthree: change it to www-data:www-data
[06:01] <bruenig> danielax, on what basis
[06:01] <Fiveohthree> danielax: why?
[06:01] <netham45> how do I get the dependencies of a package?
[06:01] <Dr_willis> citrusflavord,  are you doing your homework online?
[06:01] <teKnofreak> Filbert, i suggest you to look at use home/*/public_html and using Alias in sites-enabled, for your own security and ease of use
[06:01] <citrusflavord> Dr_willis: i wish that was my homework...
[06:02] <teKnofreak> err.,,, Fiveohthree ^^ read above
[06:02] <bruenig> I do not disagree with their model for their particular user base, but I just would prefer if it be understood for what it is then this nonsense about new software is unstable
[06:02] <GhostFiend> unstable is a good enough description to me
[06:02] <bruenig> netham45, apt-cache show package | grep Depends, there is also some explicit way to do it but whatever
[06:02] <clusty> any ideas where i could ask about suspend for a ubuntu laptop?
[06:02] <danielax> bruenig: I agree that it is high stakes. I agree that packager error does happen. I don't know the breakdown of what causes the most errors, but my personal experience is that packager error is less frequent than software error, but I don't have any stats to back this up (if you do, I'd love to see them)
[06:03] <Dr_willis> untested perhaps is a better term?
[06:03] <danielax> clusty: here
[06:03] <riotkittie> clusty: here? the forums?
[06:03] <bruenig> it is unstable do to incompetence on ubuntu's end not due to incompetence on the software creator's end is what I am saying
[06:03] <Fiveohthree> does it have to be, or is it just safer?
[06:03] <teKnofreak> clusty, here ?
[06:03] <GhostFiend> untested would work as well
[06:03] <tarelerulz> WHat I am asking does Ubuntu have 64 bit java for it yet ? or do I have to compile it myself or can I download http://www.java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp?locale=en&host=www.java.com:80  and install it
[06:03] <bruenig> danielax, please give an example then
[06:03] <mmkassem> netham45, use Synaptic (System> Administration), right click on the package and choose properties
[06:03] <clusty> tried before :D. here goes again:
[06:03] <danielax> bruenig: I think thta is an overgeneralisation
[06:03] <teKnofreak> Fiveohthree, I suggest you that if you are using for development
[06:03] <overclucker> !offtopic | bruenig,danielax | (;
[06:03] <ubotu> bruenig,danielax | (;: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:03] <overclucker> heheh
[06:03] <clusty> i have a nvidia 7400 laptop. whenever i try suspend to ram the laptop never wakes up
[06:03] <Pelo> g'night folks
[06:03] <clusty> guess its display that does not wake up
[06:04] <riotkittie> nite Pelo :D
[06:04] <danielax> bruenig: yeah - i'm dropping it :)
[06:04] <clusty> using the nvidia drivers btw
[06:04] <danielax> Pelo: night
[06:04] <bruenig> yeah good idea for you, fighting a losing battle
[06:04] <Fiveohthree> teKnofreak: will i still be able to edit it as brandon? or will i have to change back and forth?
[06:04] <GhostFiend> unstable has been the standard term for ages
[06:04] <overclucker> danielax: don't drop it just move it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:04] <bruenig> the software isn't unstable
[06:04] <eythian> clusty: with compiz? I had that issue with that running, and it always works fine without it.
[06:04] <clusty> eyemean, so should kill compiz
[06:04] <clusty> oki
[06:04] <GhostFiend> can it cause system instability
[06:04] <clusty> will do now
[06:04] <teKnofreak> Fiveohthree, dude, you put yout files in a folder named public_html in your home dir, and you need not messup with permissions
[06:04] <danielax> overclucker: i don't have the motivation to argue :P I've got better things to do :)
[06:05] <bruenig> if someone wishes to provide such an example than these vague, I disagree with you but will provide no reason, I am happy to hear it
[06:05] <citrusflavord> Dr_willis: is a hash a random mathmatic function that encrypts passwords... kinda... am i close?
[06:05] <AJ--> hi i was trying to change my cursors theme. and followed the instructions but it wont display the cursor theme i choose... how can i fix this
[06:05] <bruenig> danielax thinks that contradicting is equal to a real position
[06:05] <danielax> clusty: yes
[06:05] <GhostFiend> can installing a unsupported package with bad code cause instability?
[06:05] <danielax> whoops sorry clusty
[06:05] <scguy318> citrusflavord: replace encrypt with hash and you're closer
[06:05] <Dr_willis> citrusflavord,  # <-- hash mark. :) Im an engineer not a CS major.
[06:05] <Fiveohthree> so insted of   /var/www    /var/public_html   ?
[06:05] <mmkassem> Fiveohthree, to edit any text file you do not own use: gksudo gedit testfilehere
[06:05] <teKnofreak> Fiveohthree, check apache.conf for a line enabling use of /home/*/public_html
[06:05] <Dr_willis> citrusflavord,  im sure theres wiki pages that detail the definitions.
[06:05] <GhostFiend> not even bad code, just incompatable code?
[06:05] <AzzClown> a hash is already encrypted huh
[06:06] <Ed_> can anyone give me a good program that's ideal for monitoring workout and meal plans
[06:06] <GhostFiend> think 'system unstable' not just program unstable
[06:06] <danielax> Fiveohthree: no, your home directory/public_html
[06:06] <scguy318> citrusflavord: a hash function is a function that takes input and maps it to a semi-unique representation suitable for storage in a hash table
[06:06] <teKnofreak> Fiveohthree, nope no /var/www, it is /home/UserName/public_html
[06:06] <bruenig> GhostFiend, but my point is that, it isn't bad code, it is bad packaging of the code by the ubuntu guy
[06:06] <scguy318> citrusflavord: a crypto hash function is such a function that is designed so that its outputs are as random and distributed as possible
[06:06] <citrusflavord> Dr_willis: im reading wikipedia while typing, (cs = counter strike?)
[06:06] <andy_33> citrusflavord,  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hash_function
[06:06] <andy_33> (:
[06:06] <scguy318> citrusflavord: CS = Computer Science
[06:07] <GhostFiend> but can the 'system' become unstable by installing say a unsupported or unpatched lib or whatnot?
[06:07] <scguy318> citrusflavord: at least, that is my understanding of a hash function, I'm no CS major :)
[06:07] <AJ--> i downloaded a cursor theme from gnome-look and followed the guid of using it.. but i cant get the cursor i wanted.. anyone knows'?
[06:07] <danielax> citrusflavord: CS = computer science
[06:07] <GhostFiend> unstable branch is a perfect name
[06:08] <scguy318> citrusflavord: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hash_function and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptographic_hash_function for your reading pleasure
[06:08] <bruenig> GhostFiend, it has nothing to do with the actual code or the actual program, do you understand how compilation and packaging of software works?
[06:08] <citrusflavord> scguy318: yea, that pretty much lines up with what im reading on the pedia here. If it was the same fucntion it would just be cracked
[06:08] <GhostFiend> yes
[06:08] <danielax> wow - midnight in the us and the only thing happen in the channel is hash functions and an argument that ubuntu packages are incompetent :)
[06:08] <zengen> Why is my /ignore not working?  Must be bad packaging of xchat.
[06:09] <danielax> s/packages/packagers/
[06:09] <GhostFiend> bruenig, the problem seems to me is your applying the tag of unstable to the package, not to its 'possible' effect on the entire product
[06:09] <Dr_willis> zengen,  that got removed like AGES ago... :0
[06:09] <scguy318> danielax: it's not yet midnight in Central Daylight :P
[06:09] <Dr_willis> zengen,  not sure why. well it got changed i guess is the correct term.
[06:09] <GhostFiend> Ubuntu is not so much a OS as it is a full computing solution
[06:09] <GhostFiend> that is, to the eyes of the world
[06:09] <bruenig> its not that they are more incompetent than any other distro, I am saying fundamentally that it is the fear of packager incompetence, not fear of software development incompetence, that drives the policy
[06:09] <AJ--> anypne knows how to change my default icon theme?
[06:09] <danielax> scguy318: ok ok so I'm in Australia
[06:09] <danielax> all of the US blurs into one time zone :)
[06:10] <bruenig> for instance on arch, they had an xchat update that didn't have spell check compiled in, this is relatively small, but you understand the premise
[06:10] <zengen> Dr: It was a joke.  A bad joke...
[06:10] <teKnofreak> AJ--, GNOME ?
[06:10] <AJ--> anypne knows how to change my default cursor icon theme?
[06:10] <laspace_> With all these people there must ALWAYS be talking
[06:10] <AJ--> teKnofreak: yup
[06:10] <teKnofreak> !patience AJ--
[06:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about patience aj-- - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:10] <GhostFiend> I mean if you want the latest and greatest software on your machine, which is not the mission goal of ubuntu, there are plenty of distros that cator to that
[06:10] <scguy318> ubotu is a very busy bot
[06:10] <laspace_> Damnit
[06:10] <scguy318> he wouldn't know much about patience
[06:10] <tarelerulz> I know you can install 32 version of java on here ,but what about installing 64 bit for amd64 on here ?
[06:10] <MoNsTeR> can somebody help me with making my windows transparent
[06:10] <Fiveohthree> what is the apt-get for php?
[06:10] <danielax> someone really should fix that :P
[06:11] <GhostFiend> trust me, I have gripes with the default packages and my aptlist is full of all kinds of dubious repos
[06:11] <bruenig> GhostFiend, right but understand the reason why they don't do it
[06:11] <danielax> Fiveohthree: php5, apache2-mod-php?
[06:11] <teKnofreak> Fiveohthree, php5
[06:11] <Madpilot> ubotu, php | Fiveohthree
[06:11] <ubotu> Fiveohthree: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:11] <bruenig> that is all I care about
[06:11] <greg-g> issue: I deleted a link (I think that is what it is) to a folder.  now when I try to delete that link, it tries to delete the contents of the folder.  How do I get rid of it?
[06:11] <Dr_willis> greg-g,  a soft link? hard link?
[06:12] <clusty_> does not really help killing compiz
[06:12] <Dr_willis> can ya do hard links to a directory? Hmm not sure on that one..
[06:12] <teKnofreak> greg-g, you mean deleted a soft link or deleted a hard link to a folder ?
[06:12] <clusty_> actually what happens is that laptops seems to be waking uop immediately
[06:12] <GhostFiend> I don't understand why you have a problem with a community standardized term for the installation of un-certified software
[06:12] <greg-g> Dr_willis: teKnofreak: when you have an external harddrive connected, the icon on the desktop, whatever that is
[06:12] <MoNsTeR> can somebody help me with making my windows transparent
[06:13] <bruenig> GhostFiend, when someone says unstable software, instead of unstable packages, it implies and I guarantee you many people have understood it as meaning that the software is unstable when it isn't
[06:13] <Dr_willis> greg-g,  thats a mounted drive. not a link.
[06:13] <danielax> MoNsTeR: that might be more relevant to #ubuntu-effects
[06:13] <MoNsTeR> danielax, i never get any response in that channel
[06:13] <danielax> weird...
[06:13] <GhostFiend> I will concede that point, but that is mute when we consider the target audience
[06:14] <teKnofreak> greg-g, unplug it and plug it back :)
[06:14] <AzzClown> monster,  do you use beryl or compiz?
[06:14] <danielax> I don't know anything about it, I was just pointing you in a direction I thought might be helpful
[06:14] <GhostFiend> bruenig, perhaps we should move this to a different board
[06:14] <greg-g> Dr_willis: teKnofreak: I have rsync backup my /home dir every night, and in /backupdrive/home/greg/Desktop/ there was a "shortcut" to Media, I deleted it, now when I try to empty the trash, it tries to delete my media off the backupdrive
[06:14] <MoNsTeR> AzzClown, beryl
[06:14] <overclucker> bruenig: who says people can differentiate between the two?
[06:14] <danielax> Try the forums, maybe?
[06:14] <buntunub>  uname -a
[06:14] <buntunub> Linux 2.6.22-12-generic #1 SMP Sun Sep 23 18:11:30 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:14] <buntunub> :-D
[06:14] <riotkittie> oye.
[06:14] <teKnofreak> greg-g, unplug the drive and delete it, plug it back
[06:14] <GhostFiend> Hey I have a question
[06:14] <riotkittie> what is buntunub :-Ding about?
[06:14] <netham45> where are the packages on an Ubuntu-Desktop install CD?
[06:14] <bruenig> there is certainly a difference, don't assume people are stupid overclucker
[06:14] <buntunub> Gutsy is running quite nicely on my new HP Laptop
[06:15] <GhostFiend> How optimized to desktop functioning is the Ubuntu kernel these days?
[06:15] <greg-g> teKnofreak: I will do that after I finish re-backing everything up now that I accidently deleted :)
[06:15] <danielax> !ask | GhostFiend
[06:15] <ubotu> GhostFiend: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:15] <teKnofreak> netham45, ppl ?
[06:15] <amidanie1> Is there a particular person/place to scream to to get packages in the ubuntu repos updated?
[06:15] <AzzClown> transparent when not in use? or just all the time?  cause i'm not sure if it can be all the time.
[06:15] <teKnofreak> netham45, pool*
[06:15] <danielax> bruenig: but it's so true!!! :P
[06:15] <MoNsTeR> overclucker, what do you overclock? your graphics card or your cpu
[06:15] <riotkittie> buntunub: oh, congrats.
[06:15] <mocie_girl> hi
[06:15] <bruenig> I mean perhaps, but when you feed them unstable software what else are they going to think
[06:15] <overclucker> MoNsTeR: cpu, right now
[06:15] <teKnofreak> greg-g, ok, that shouldn't be a problem, when you plug it back you will get the icon
[06:15] <netham45> pool doesn't seem to have all of them
[06:15] <bruenig> feed them the term "unstable software" I mean to say
[06:15] <MoNsTeR> AzzClown, like all the time
[06:16] <teKnofreak> netham45, if its not there in pool, then where else will it be ?
[06:16] <GhostFiend> bruenig, um... Red Onez Go Faster?
[06:16] <tarelerulz> any of you use 64 bit ubuntu ?
[06:16] <greg-g> teKnofreak: thanks
[06:16] <netham45> teKnofreak: if I knew, I wouldn't be askin
[06:16] <MoNsTeR> overclucker, can you teach me mines and 2.50 ghz or whatever but it says it can be "overclucked" to 3.00 ghz
[06:16] <GhostFiend> tarelerulz: i did, but stopped because i did not get enough benfit compared to the extra work i had to do to make flash and some other stuff work
[06:16] <teKnofreak> netham45, not in pool, then not there, btw what are you looking for ?
[06:17] <danielax> GhostFiend: the debian list had a huge discussion about the value of optimised kernal some time ago - Ithink the ultimate decision was that the difference in compiling a specific desktop kernel wasn't worth the effort the difference was so small
[06:17] <netham45> Im looking for the X binarys
[06:17] <overclucker> MoNsTeR: i've got mine up to 25%, so far
[06:17] <danielax> If that answers your question. :|
[06:17] <overclucker> 125%, pardon
[06:17] <netham45> since im on an internet with speeds equivalant to dialup
[06:17] <KevlarSoul> Hi
[06:17] <netham45> I didn't want to download
[06:17] <KevlarSoul> Is the Ubuntu 7.10 being well recieved?
[06:17] <heartsblood> is there a command to get a short discription of a package on the sli?
[06:17] <MoNsTeR> overclucker, how do i do that
[06:17] <heartsblood> cli*
[06:17] <GhostFiend> danielax, is the difference negligable? I have tried tweeked and thinned out ones and all I really noticed was a faster boot time, and not much faster
[06:17] <overclucker> MoNsTeR: what cpu/mobo?
[06:18] <teKnofreak> heartsblood, apt-cache show pkg, dpkg -L if installed
[06:18] <danielax> netham45: could you copy the entire cd iso to thumbdrive, then mount it loopback and use that
[06:18] <GhostFiend> KevlarSoul, so far so good. I was really impressed when it told me my battery is broken lol
[06:18] <MoNsTeR> overclucker, yeah
[06:18] <netham45> mount it loopback?
[06:18] <teKnofreak> heartsblood, pkg --> replace with pkg-name
[06:18] <danielax> GhostFiend: yeah I didn't pay a huge amount of attention to the debate but I think that was what they decided
[06:18] <AzzClown> a (rhetorical) question... is your processor the "bottleneck" ?   ( what will overclucking it do? )
[06:18] <marnik`> has gaim been renamed as the package pidgin? I tried "apt-cache show pidgin" but nothing shows up. I have Ubuntu Feisty
[06:19] <teKnofreak> marnik`, its still gaim there
[06:19] <frostburn> make it a wider bottle neck
[06:19] <danielax> netham45: mount the iso image as if it were a real cd -- mount -o loop /image /media/cdrom
[06:19] <zengen> pidgin is in gutsy
[06:19] <riotkittie> marnik`: pidgin isnt in feisty
[06:19] <netham45> ok
[06:19] <heartsblood> teKnofreak: tyvm
[06:19] <overclucker> MoNsTeR: first of all, this is a slow, time consuming process
[06:19] <AzzClown> so you think it IS the bottleneck?
[06:19] <teKnofreak> heartsblood, :)
[06:19] <danielax> netham45: that would be what Iwould do just because subverting the packaging system is frustrating
[06:19] <MoNsTeR> overclucker, oh well i have the time , im not sure if you do tho
[06:20] <mocie_girl> can u tell me what the place it is..??
[06:20] <netham45> ok
[06:20] <overclucker> MoNsTeR: read you mobo manual, and get comfortable using bios
[06:20] <danielax> mocie_girl: sorry, what is your question?
[06:20] <marnik`> teKnofreak/riotkittie: I have some screwup with gaim and the ##linux folks said that I should upgrade to pidgin ... is there a way to get pidgin in feisty, say by adding to sources.list?
[06:21] <marnik`> ... or should I upgrade my Feisty to Gutsy ... or is that kind up upgrade a bit premature?
[06:21] <MoNsTeR> overclucker, i am comfortable using the bios i use them frequently
[06:21] <teKnofreak> marnik`, download pidgin and install (either the .deb or source install)
[06:21] <netham45> w00t
[06:21] <marnik`> teKnofreak: ok, thanks ... will do
[06:21] <netham45> I have Ubuntu Desktop 7.04 on my memory stick allready
[06:21] <riotkittie> marnik`: gutsy's still beta, so i would hold off on that unless you're prepared to deal with potential issues
[06:21] <temper> hai
[06:21] <danielax> netham45: desktop wont do it
[06:22] <zengen> marnik, if you use the source for pidgin you can sudo apt-get build-dep gaim for all of pidgin's dependencies.
[06:22] <danielax> you need alternate
[06:22] <marnik`> riotkittie: ok ... I'm setting up my Mom's machine ... not beta territory
[06:22] <mago> hellow please un tutorial of netbean espanish
[06:22] <CarlFK> does the CD still have the OO for windows installer? (and firefox, and a few others?)
[06:22] <overclucker> MoNsTeR: and it might be helpful to make sure your bios version is current
[06:22] <netham45> has to be alternate?
[06:22] <riotkittie> marnik`: awww, that's sweet :P  is this going to be her first foray with linux?
[06:22] <netham45> I don't have an alternate CD downloaded
[06:22] <danielax> netham45: the ubuntu desktop cd contains a file system that is jsut loaded onto the computer. alternate contains the individual packages
[06:23] <AzzClown> i'm curious as to what some "potential issues" might be , with gutsy
[06:23] <danielax> thus desktop is faster to install, but not flexible in what you want to install
[06:23] <riotkittie> netham45: in which case, you should grin and bear it with apt-get :P
[06:23] <peter_> how do i install bluetooth on ubuntu .....i want to pair it with a headset
[06:23] <netham45> the PC Im putting it on doesn't have internet
[06:23] <overclucker> MoNsTeR: how old is your mobo?
[06:23] <marnik`> riotkittie: I got her on Linux 2 years ago ... first Knoppix and then Fiesty back in March or April.
[06:23] <netham45> or I would bare with it
[06:23] <teKnofreak> marnik`, whats your issue with gaim, it works fine here ?
[06:23] <danielax> netham45: if the server has net access, do an apt-get
[06:23] <MoNsTeR> overclucker, its fairly new
[06:23] <netham45> no internet
[06:23] <netham45> it is local
[06:23] <wastedfluid> hi guys.  is there any way I can emulate Internet Explorer 6 on Ubuntu?  I need it for Quickbooks, and I can't seem to emulate it with Wine.
[06:24] <danielax> hmm
[06:24] <riotkittie> marnik`: ah, that's cool.
[06:24] <MoNsTeR> overclucker, but i think it has a update i built this computer from scratch
[06:24] <danielax> wastedfluid: try cross-over, if you don't mind paying $$$
[06:24] <marnik`> teKnofreak: very weird bug (or I'm messing something up) ... her yahoo gaim account always shows as offline to me ... even when she is "available"
[06:24] <timu>   ?? 
[06:24] <timu> hi
[06:24] <riotkittie> xover office supports ie6?
[06:24] <dfletcher> wastedfluid, http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page
[06:24] <wastedfluid> Ah.  Nah, Kind of don't want to pay for it since linux is free in itself
[06:24] <riotkittie> wait. why do i care.  :P
[06:24] <danielax> riotkittie: um, guessing?
[06:24] <marnik`> riotkittie: my Dad said "what's this Linux stuff" in a gruff voice.
[06:24] <riotkittie> free as in speech, not free as in beer.
[06:25] <paola> Escriba el texto aqu....hola
[06:25] <danielax> !ubuntu-ru | timu
[06:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-ru - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:25] <teKnofreak> marnik`, might be something on yahoo side, it has happened to me too
[06:25] <danielax> !#ubuntu-ru | timu
[06:25] <Madpilot> !ru | timu
[06:25] <ubotu> timu:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[06:25] <riotkittie> marnik`: hahaha. i am trying to lure my husband to the "dark side" but ... <shrug>
[06:25] <temper> y7igi] 
[06:25] <AzzClown> wastefliud: vmware ?
[06:25] <danielax> Madpilot: yea - that's what i was looking for :)
[06:25] <marnik`> riotkittie: actually, I set her up on my old machines so I give her Linux ... I stopped buying MSWindows with Win98.
[06:25] <Madpilot> danielax, just use the country code
[06:25] <teKnofreak> marnik`, sometimes it shows me status msg which I had used a month ago and not any more in the list in gaim
[06:25] <danielax> thx, Madpilot
[06:25] <marnik`> riotkittie: my Dad doesn't even use a computer so why would he care?
[06:26] <MoNsTeR> overclucker, do you have msn so we dont get kicked out of this channel
[06:26] <usr13> Where do we find list of patches / updates?
[06:26] <danielax> !es | paola
[06:26] <ubotu> paola: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:26] <CarlFK> wastedfluid: there is a FF extension that might help...
[06:26] <riotkittie> how can people not use computers? i mean, i know it's completely possible, but oh, the mind, it boggles
[06:26] <dfletcher> there is also an excellent wine based script I just linked to that everyone should try ;)
[06:26] <marnik`> teKnofreak: so the ##linux folks were suggesting a switch to pidgin which, I guess, will fix the problem.
[06:26] <teKnofreak> riotkittie, if you had never used a computer, you can ;)
[06:26] <hgjjjf> cant i install kde xubuntu ubuntu studio by doing sudo aptitude install kde-desktop/xubuntu-desktop/ubuntu-studio-desktop?
[06:26] <danielax> riotkittie: well, I'm going camping for 3 weeks in the middle of Australia in 1 week, so that will really test it :)
[06:27] <riotkittie> hgjjjf: yea
[06:27] <danielax> hgjjjf: if you have the appropriate repositiroy installed :)
[06:27] <teKnofreak> marnik`, try removing gaim, logging in yahoo messenger from somewhere, logout, install and use gaim again :)
[06:27] <netham45> crap
[06:27] <hgjjjf> danielax,  how i install thm?
[06:27] <netham45> BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0!
[06:27] <overclucker> grr just got disconnected
[06:27] <riotkittie> danielax:  everytime we go camping, my laptop is the first thing that i pack. i am a sad, sad person.
[06:27] <g0dd3ss> u can download the pidgin .deb from www.getdeb.net marnik`
[06:27] <eyec0n> you have to add the ubuntu sutdio repo.
[06:27] <MoNsTeR> hgjjjf, sudo apt-get install
[06:28] <danielax> riotkittie: indeed :) If you have power, that's good :)
[06:28] <hgjjjf> MoNsTeR,  install?
[06:28] <danielax> netham45: umm.... there is a kernel option for that, IIRC, google it :)
[06:29] <netham45> danielax: it is a stupid driver glitch
[06:29] <danielax> netham45: that sucks :(
[06:29] <eyec0n> hgjjjf, http://ubuntustudio.org/downloads - scroll to the middle for the howto on adding the ubuntu studio repo
[06:29] <netham45> happens whenever I plug in my network card without blacklisting some stuff
[06:29] <danielax> netham45: wow you have a funky computer :/
[06:29] <hgjjjf> riotkittie,  and MoNsTeR  and eyec0n  thanks
[06:29] <netham45> actually it is a funky network card
[06:30] <netham45> happens on every computer I try it on
[06:30] <riotkittie> netham45: which card? or better yet, which chipset?
[06:30] <marnik`> g0dd3ss: I was going to get the Gutsy deb ... is the Gutsy deb better for Feisty or this www.getdeb.net a better approach?
[06:30] <netham45> rt75
[06:30] <hgjjjf> eyec0n,  i need to do it for kde and xubuntu too?
[06:31] <TheMoebius> what kind of options should I have in fstab if I want a ext3 volume to auto mount for all my users and they should have full readwrite access to it?
[06:31] <GreyGhost> hey.. the system update says something bout non authenticated updates..
[06:31] <netham45> riotkittie: I have to blacklist rt75usb and rt2570
[06:31] <netham45> then I get ndiswrapper installed and use that
[06:31] <acoustyk> is beryl stable?
[06:31] <danielax> GreyGhost: do an apt-get update/aptitude update/whatever update
[06:31] <riotkittie> netham45: i feel your pain. i have a rt2570 myself :P
[06:31] <overclucker> MoNsTeR, what bois are you using?
[06:32] <netham45> haha
[06:32] <hgjjjf> acoustyk,  its been stable
[06:32] <netham45> riotkittie: same problem for you?
[06:32] <acoustyk> kewl
[06:32] <MoNsTeR> overclucker, do you have msn or aim
[06:32] <MoNsTeR> overclucker, so we dont get kicked from this channel
[06:32] <netham45> I use ndiswrapper, Im actually using it right now.
[06:33] <danielax> MoNsTeR, overclucker :just both /msg each other
[06:33] <riotkittie> netham45: yep. same problem.
[06:33] <netham45> sudo dpkg -i _-XPERT-_
[06:33] <netham45> gah
[06:33] <netham45> wrong window
[06:33] <overclucker> MoNsTeR, /join #oc
[06:33] <netham45> sorry _-XPERT-_
[06:34] <KevlarSoul> my question: If I use 64 bit or 32 bit, will I encounter the same issues i have with Windows 32 bit, versus 64 bit, O/S, re: Driver/software support??
[06:34] <netham45> riotkittie: blacklist rt2570 and rt73usb, then use ndiswrapper
[06:34] <riotkittie> if its any consolation, ralinks seem to work better in gutsy for a lot of people
[06:35] <riotkittie> yea, i'm using ndiswrapper now. tho i do have it working under feisty with the native driver after doing god-knows-what
[06:35] <netham45> heh
[06:35] <g0dd3ss> marnik`, if you're running feisty I'd say it'd be better to get the feisty deb, I'm using the one from getdeb atm and it works fine
[06:35] <netham45> I wanted to use the native driver for hopes of mac address changing
[06:36] <riotkittie> i picked the adapter up because everyone waxed and waned poetic about how great ralink was. boy, was i surprised :P
[06:36] <marnik`> g0dd3ss: ok, thanks
[06:37] <netham45> heh
[06:37] <netham45> did you get the cheapo belkin usb one?
[06:38] <pwnt-> wow alot of security important updates popped into my update manager.
[06:38] <distyle> how can i find files
[06:38] <marnik`> marnik`: the search at getdeb shows pidgin and pidgin-data ... did you have to install both or can I just skip this pidgin-data?
[06:38] <danielax> distyle: what do you mean? search?
[06:38] <Dr_willis> distyle,  i use the 'find' or 'locate' command. :)
[06:38] <dissection> I just reinstalled ubuntu.. now my mounts are showing up on my desktop.. How do I take them off my Desktop?
[06:38] <usr13> Is there not a log file for apt-get someplace?  (I don't see one, maybe I'm just missing it?)  I would sure like to have one....
[06:38] <g0dd3ss> u need both marnik`
[06:39] <danielax> distyle: Places->Search For Files?
[06:39] <usr13> I would very much like a list of what I'm about to uninstall right now.
[06:39] <danielax> dissection: first one thing then another :P
[06:39] <jumbalia> So I removed the NVIDIA restricted driver, and now when i log into ubuntu (after entering my name and pass) it goes to a white screen.  I tried to install the drivers i have from NVIDIA through console, but I dont have an active internet connect.  How do I fix the white screen, or how do I activate my wireless USB adapter in console?  Normally I type in sudo modprobe ndiswrapper, then it loads the network and I enter the pass for my keyri
[06:39] <jumbalia> modprobe and it does nothing
[06:39] <distyle> first time using mac, also torrent
[06:39] <dissection> danielax: Just can't get it right. Something has to go wrong always
[06:40] <jumbalia> I also installed pidgin at the exact same time I removed the drivers, so i dont know if pidgin could have done anything, but i doubt it
[06:40] <danielax> dissection: Mr. Murphy is having a field day on you computer :)
[06:40] <distyle> find
[06:40] <dissection> :|
[06:41] <dissection> danielax: Any idea how I can remove it from the desktop?
[06:42] <danielax> dissection: umm... no. But your surely not the first. The fourms, or someone else may be able to help
[06:42] <dissection> :/
[06:44] <jumbalia> Update.  I was able to install the NVIDIA drivers through console, but I still boot into a white screen after logging in.  Any ideas how to fix?
[06:45] <distyle> anybody know good site to download game?
[06:45] <scguy318> distyle: Synaptic Package Manager ;)
[06:45] <jumbalia> Well hell nvm
[06:45] <jumbalia> I got other problems
[06:45] <danielax> distyle: to install programs on ubuntu, please use add/remove programs in the Applications menu
[06:45] <eyec0n> distyle, getdeb.net
[06:46] <danielax> or the synaptic package manager in System , Adminsitrataion
[06:46] <danielax> distyle: Add/Remove Programs is the most user friendly :)
[06:46] <jumbalia> ok, instead of a white screen, I get an error the the xserver found screens, but none were usable
[06:46] <Sole> hello everyone
[06:46] <danielax> jumbalia: try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:47] <dissection> What was that file for grub again? /boot/grub.lst?
[06:47] <CarlFK> boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:47] <Sole> would it be less of a headache to simply install x86 ubuntu instead of the 64-bit version?  it seems like the 64-bit will lead to more annoyances with programs/drivers/plugins not running on it
[06:47] <dissection> thanks
[06:48] <Sole> or is it simply an isolated incident with the flash plugin for firefox?
[06:48] <CarlFK> Sole: pretty sure it is not an isolated incident
[06:48] <CarlFK> but I am not sure how wide spread it is either
[06:49] <trdracer> QUESTION_ if i were to delete the partitions ubuntu and xubuntu are on...will it corrupt anything?
[06:49] <riotkittie> trdracer: shouldn't
[06:49] <danielax> Sole: you're not the first person to ask the question. there will be resources online
[06:49] <trdracer> i dont want it anymore =\
[06:49] <riotkittie> trdracer: it shouldn't not you shouldn't
[06:49] <danielax> trdracer: depends - you will lose anything on those partitions, like your home directory
[06:50] <scguy318> trdracer: giving up already? :( well, Linux isn't for everyone
[06:50] <usr13> FYI:  Synaptic package manager HAS a log.    File -> History
[06:50] <scguy318> trdracer: you'll just have to remove the partitions, then reinstall the Windows MBR
[06:50] <riotkittie> tho you will need a Windows install CD around so you can reclaim the MBR , if youre going back to a win install
[06:50] <webulator70> i have an sblive and as soon as i installed a fresh gutsy i have no sound and an alsa error
[06:50] <Sole> danielax: I've already found the solution to the flash plugin problem but Im just asking if I should be prepared to look for a lot more solutions to such problems
[06:50] <scguy318> trdracer: I like the Super GRUB CD for that task
[06:50] <danielax> webulator70: gusty support is in #ubuntu+1
[06:50] <webulator70> oh, sorry
[06:51] <Hilikus_> im trying to set automatic login for my mythtv user but its telling me the UID is too low, why is it low?
[06:51] <Hilikus_> it means that it has less privileges?
[06:51] <danielax> Sole: really Idon't know. I run on 32 bit. But i'm suggesting that you migt get a better result by looking at what problems others have had
[06:51] <trdracer> so i can delete and no problems will happen?
[06:51] <trdracer> just ot make sure
[06:52] <clusty> no change disabling compiz
[06:52] <Sole> danielax: ok I'll look around
[06:52] <scguy318> trdracer: no problems, besides having to reinstall the Windows MBR, but that's about it
[06:52] <jumbalia> didnt work reconfiguring x server
[06:52] <danielax> trdracer: it depends what you mean by problems.
[06:52] <clusty> laptop wakes up immediately
[06:52] <jumbalia> Im just gonna reinstall Ubunut
[06:52] <scguy318> trdracer: and you didn't really need two separate partitions for Ubuntu/Xubuntu
[06:52] <jumbalia> Ubuntu
[06:52] <danielax> weird - what errors? (dump them in pastebin)
[06:52] <scguy318> trdracer: did the metapackages not satisfy?
[06:52] <danielax> jumbalia: you may be able to get around that.
[06:54] <danielax> Sole: it's not that we don't want to help, it's jsut that that may be easier and more productive for you :)
[06:54] <jumbalia> well I just installed it, so its no big deal to reinstall
[06:54] <danielax> jumbalia: your call
[06:55] <jumbalia> plus my USB adapter has wierd problems that no one can figure out
[06:55] <hgjjjf> i did sudo aptitude install kde-desktop and got this Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "kde-desktop"
[06:55] <trdracer> it just wasnt for me.
[06:55] <trdracer> [21:52]  <scguy318> trdracer: no problems, besides having to reinstall the Windows MBR, but that's about it ???
[06:55] <trdracer> MBR
[06:55] <danielax> hgjjjf: you need to set up the repository for kubunut
[06:55] <jumbalia> How would I go about fixing it without reinstalling? (xserver)
[06:55] <danielax> !MBR | trdracer
[06:55] <ubotu> trdracer: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:55] <kaushal> hi
[06:55] <Sole> danielax: hehe I understand, Im asking very annoying noob questions
[06:56] <kaushal> I wanted to understand about NFS about no_root_squash and root_squash
[06:56] <Artificial> Hey
[06:56] <Artificial> How's everyone doing?
[06:56] <kaushal> can some one explain me here
[06:56] <danielax> jumbalia: couldn't say without seeing the logs
[06:56] <jumbalia> well, how about this question then
[06:56] <scguy318> trdracer: that's alright, Linux isn't for everyone :) burn a Super GRUB CD, if you haven't already
[06:57] <geck1> I'm getting some weird graphical artifacts, which appear most often on web pages (almost every web page) regardless of the browser I use.  I'm guessing it may have to do with the graphics drivers?  Does anyone know how I can find out what graphics driver this is currently using and how to update it?
[06:57] <scguy318> trdracer: then you can just use that to replace the Windows MBR
[06:57] <scguy318> trdracer: MBR = Master Boot Record
[06:57] <danielax> trdracer: MBR = Master Boot Record - tells your computer how to boot
[06:57] <danielax> scguy318: hey - I was going to say that - copycat :P
[06:57] <jumbalia> Anytime I run an update manger, my internet disconnects, but network manager still says i am connected.  I can download files outside the update manager, but not through it
[06:57] <MoNsTeR> trdracer, thats easy
[06:58] <scguy318> danielax: lol
[06:58] <foug> hi, i have a computers with windows on it and it has a virus, the hard drive is not corrupt. Can ubuntu recover my files during installation?
[06:58] <usr13> Error:  The program 'rpm2cpio' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:  sudo apt-get install rpm  HOWEVER,  apt-get tells me:  " Couldn't find package rpm2cpio"
[06:58] <jumbalia> also, I have to plug in and unplug the USB adapter to get it to reconnect
[06:58] <scguy318> foug: you can recover it without installing
[06:59] <danielax> geck1: the graphics driver is listed in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, section "Device"
[06:59] <foug> scguy318, ok cool, thanks
[06:59] <kaushal> :( :( :(
[06:59] <usr13> Install script for OO  apparently needs 'rpm2cpio'
[06:59] <danielax> jumbalia: that is crazyweird :0
[06:59] <jumbalia> lol
[06:59] <danielax> kaushal: google is your friend here
[06:59] <danielax> usr13: apt-get install rpm
[07:00] <Dr_willis> !find rpm2cpio
[07:00] <danielax> usr13: read the error message more carefully :7
[07:00] <ubotu> File rpm2cpio found in rpm
[07:00] <usr13> danielax, ok, thanks
[07:00] <danielax> usr13: easiest question all day :P
[07:00] <trdracer> MBR does that come in windows?
[07:01] <jumbalia> "401.189869 buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 0" is an error i get when booting up.  any ideas?
[07:01] <trdracer> hopefully i dont have to get online for that
[07:01] <jumbalia> I get two buffer I/O's
[07:01] <danielax> trdracer: MBRs are used by the bios to boot the computer
[07:01] <jumbalia> the other is 439.259411
[07:01] <ocx32> is there any way o backing up db2 database uing TSM ?
[07:01] <danielax> jumbalia: floopy error - are you booting of a floppy?if so, make another. if that fails, try another floppy drive
[07:02] <jumbalia> I dont have a floppy drive
[07:02] <danielax> jumbalia: in that case, weird. Does it kill the boot?
[07:02] <jumbalia> not at all
[07:02] <jumbalia> I jsut that it was an error with my hard drve
[07:02] <danielax> jumbalia: then ignore it :)
[07:02] <jumbalia> ok
[07:02] <geck1> example 1: http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/2585/screenshotse6.png
[07:02] <geck1> example 2: http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/2079/screenshot1ia5.png
[07:03] <geck1> that is what I'm trying to fix
[07:03] <jumbalia> how hard is it to uninstall gnome and install KDE?  I jsut want to test the difference
[07:03] <rkyraccoon55> anyone know why gutsy beta wont update?
[07:03] <GreyGhost> danielax , thanks ... (sorry i was afk)
[07:03] <danielax> rkyraccoon55: gusty qestions are best asked in #ubuntu+1
[07:04] <vulcanius> rkyraccoon55, #ubuntu+1
[07:04] <geck1> anyone check out the screenshots =)
[07:04] <danielax> jumbalia: pretty easy, you just need to set up the repository for kubuntu
[07:05] <danielax> geck1: I'm looking...
[07:05] <DM|> What would you all suggest for video editing?
[07:05] <DM|>  simple stuff
[07:05] <rkyraccoon55> i feel like an idiot asking this but how do i join "#ubuntu+1"?
[07:05] <danielax> geck1: that's really funky :)
[07:05] <geck1> yea xD
[07:05] <danielax> rkyraccoon55: probalby /join #ubuntu+1
[07:05] <geck1> I can't figure it out, I don't even know what to google for =P
[07:05] <geck1> I tried googling for graphical artifacts, graphics glitches, everything I could think of
[07:05] <danielax> rkyraccoon55: otherwise, the same way you joined this channel, just replace #ubuntu with #ubuntu+1
[07:06] <pwnt-> in gnome window list panel, each time I open different site the size of my application windows changed. sometime go really wide up as long as the free panel wold be, and sometime it goes really short, how to fix this?
[07:06] <danielax> geck1: what driver?
[07:06] <geck1> err I'm not sure, can you tell me once more where to check
[07:06] <danielax> geck1: (/etc/X11/xorg.conf - Device section)
[07:06] <geck1> I'm pretty new to ubuntu
[07:06] <geck1> kk
[07:07] <danielax> geck1: np - we were all new at some point :)
[07:07] <rhYaN`> hello
[07:07] <jumbalia> can i install both gnome and kde and switch between?  Also, is the only difference between kubuntu and ubuntu that they use kde and gnome
[07:07] <geck1> Section "Monitor"
[07:07] <geck1> 	Identifier	"Generic Monitor"
[07:07] <geck1> 	Option		"DPMS"
[07:07] <geck1> 	HorizSync	30-70
[07:07] <geck1> 	VertRefresh	50-120
[07:07] <geck1> EndSection
[07:07] <dibblego> is anyone else unable to open PDFs lately (since some update?); get a blank document
[07:07] <danielax> jumbalia: Ibelieve so. that used to be the way many moons ago :)
[07:07] <danielax> jumbalia: as for the second question, afaik, yes...
[07:07] <geck1> Section "Screen"
[07:07] <geck1> 	Identifier	"Default Screen"
[07:07] <geck1> 	Device		"S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266] "
[07:08] <danielax> geck1: that's the monitor section. try the device section
[07:08] <danielax> geck1: that's the Screen section
[07:08] <geck1> Section "Device"
[07:08] <geck1> 	Identifier	"S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266] "
[07:08] <geck1> 	Driver		"savage"
[07:08] <geck1> 	BusID		"PCI:1:0:0"
[07:08] <geck1> got it =) sorry
[07:08] <CarlFK> geck1: /topc say  Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:08] <danielax> that's te one :)
[07:08] <rhYaN`> i been installed ubuntu 6.06 if i will ping the ubuntu ip in other windows computer it normaly reply..
[07:08] <geck1> sorry CarlFK, thanks
[07:09] <danielax> ok so you are a savage driver, now you can google something like "ubuntu savage driver artefacts"
[07:09] <danielax> or you can try something like changing "savage" to "vesa" restarting x, and seeing if it happens still,
[07:10] <mago> hellow
[07:10] <geck1> just change it in that file?
[07:10] <mago> tutorial for benbeans
[07:10] <danielax> geck1: yes, but you will need to do it as root/admnistrator
[07:10] <mago> help please
[07:10] <rhYaN`> my prob is: if i will type \\ubuntu.ip on my run menu, the error is The network path was not found
[07:10] <geck1> right right, ok, thanks danielax, I will give it a try, and I'll be back if I can't figure it out
[07:10] <geck1> thanks for the help, adios =)
[07:10] <danielax> mago: this is an ubuntu channel. benbeans are not supported here
[07:11] <danielax> cya
[07:11] <Alysum> hello I have a severe problem since upgrading to Feisty on my Aspire 1690 with X700, gnome wont load, but it does in failsofe mode. not sure how to fix the X-server. Tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xord, using ati drivers, tried fglrx too...tks
[07:11] <danielax> rhYaN`: \\ubuntu.ip is looking for samba shares on the ubuntu computer
[07:11] <danielax> rhYaN`: try setting up shared folders.
[07:11] <rhYaN`> yes danielax: ive done installing samba.. but still dsame
[07:12] <danielax> rhYaN`: do you have any shares set up?
[07:12] <rhYaN`> danielax: iv done that also
[07:12] <rhYaN`> yes. i have
[07:12] <mago> danielax, ?? net beans plataform java
[07:12] <Alysum> any tips ?
[07:12] <danielax> mago: this channel is for the Ubuntu Linux system. Not netbeans
[07:13] <danielax> rhYaN`: hmm. (silently curses microsoft)......
[07:13] <using9> haha
[07:13] <rhYaN`> danielax: any idea?
[07:13] <rhYaN`> danielax: what u mean?
[07:13] <marnik`> I just replaced gaim with pidgin for use with yahoo ... but the icons are a lot more boring. The previous gaim icons were dynamically changing but these pidgin are static. Can I get the dynamic gaim icons back?
[07:13] <mago> danielax, yes for net beans is programing
[07:13] <danielax> rhYaN`: no, sorry: have you tried searching the forums.
[07:14] <danielax> mago: try a programming channel, or searching with google
[07:14] <shahzadali> google is the man, always try him first
[07:14] <Alysum> Zzzz
[07:14] <danielax> how does one read pastes?
[07:15] <Meroigo_> Remote Desktop only sends away one of my screens. I have dual monitors for my computer. The right screen is just a black space when I VNC view the computer.
[07:15] <rhYaN`> i try to search danielax... tnx
[07:15] <mago> danielax, for netbeans is ubuntu exelent
[07:15] <shahzadali> put it on a tooth brush
[07:15] <danielax> after they've been pasted into the pastebox
[07:15] <shahzadali> danielax: put it on a tooth brush
[07:16] <danielax> oh - my 26.2 mb download has finished! on dialup too :)
[07:16] <SerratedX> Is there a way to look up my system log file from the HDD system while I'm running on a LiveCD?
[07:16] <danielax> now another 6 mb... fun fun fun
[07:17] <shahzadali> you've got a lot of patience!
[07:17] <mago> danielax,  your exiliand the channel ubuntu
[07:17] <danielax> SerratedX: it will be in the var/log/ directory of the old system
[07:17] <Alysum> this chan suxxxs !
[07:17] <mago> yes is end?
[07:17] <danielax> so if you've mounted the old system on /whatever, try /whatever/var/log
[07:17] <mago> danielax,  yes is end?
[07:17] <shahzadali> Alysum: I wonder what does it suck?
[07:17] <danielax> Alysum: we cannot answer all questions.
[07:17] <danielax> mago: I do not understand?
[07:17] <Alysum> what can I do then? shoot myself ?
[07:18] <danielax> Alysum: try the forums, try an ubuntu channel in your country (mine is #ubuntu-au), try a local linux users group,
[07:19] <danielax> Alysum: try leaving the problem for a while, doing something else, and coming back and looking at it with a fresh point of view. Try paid support. The options are manifold
[07:19] <Alysum> I need it for work...:(
[07:20] <danielax> Alysum: then paid support is probably the way to go
[07:20] <marnik`> can I get the dynamically changing icons that I had with gaim/yahoo working working in pidgin/yahoo?
[07:20] <danielax> or come back when it's not the middle of the night in the us and the aussies are up :P
[07:21] <marnik`> oops, I accidentally quit ...
[07:21] <marnik`> anyway, here is my question again ...
[07:21] <MongooseWA> how can i get my microphone to work in ubuntu?
[07:21] <marnik`> can I get the dynamically changing icons for gaim/yahoo working in pidgin/yahoo?
[07:22] <SerratedX> So, xorg won't start, I've tried to reconfigure it, and it tells me to check my syslog to help resolve the issue, but I don't see any crash information on the log...
[07:23] <danielax> SerratedX: try the /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:23] <SerratedX> still no crash info
[07:24] <SerratedX> I'm thinking there is some kind of conflict with my Disk Access because its giving me a R/W error with some temp files
[07:24] <danielax> look for messages labeled (EE) - they're errors
[07:24] <SerratedX> is there a way to change those permissions from a live CD?
[07:24] <danielax> SerratedX: chmod/chown
[07:25] <DoYouKnow> Hi. I have just installed KDE4 from backports on ubuntu feisty, and am getting two "This object cannot be created" messages ontop of my screen
[07:25] <DoYouKnow> it's actually in a little white strip on the bottom of the screen
[07:26] <jumbalia> Should I install fiesty now and upgrade to gutsy when it comes out, or just wait for gutsy, or install gutsy now?
[07:27] <heartsblood> how do I setup unique desktop images for monitors setup for twinview? (nvidia dual-monitor)  I've done it before, I just have no idea how I did it.
[07:27] <scguy318> jumbalia: you the stable or the edge type?
[07:27] <danielax> jumbalia: if you're installing from scratch, maybe just wait. I dunno
[07:27] <pwnt-> in gnome window list panel, each time I open different site the size of my application windows changed. sometime go really wide up as long as the free panel wold be, and sometime it goes really short, how to fix this?
[07:27] <SerratedX> okay, Pardon my Noobishness, but how do I run chmod/chown?
[07:27] <marnik`> ok, I answered my own question ... if you're curious http://www.bobbyvoicu.com/how-to-use-yahoo-and-msn-smilies-in-pidgin/
[07:27] <jumbalia> well, i am almost a cmplete newb to linux
[07:27] <jumbalia> I have done minor minor server administration before
[07:27] <SerratedX> or what are the parimiters needed in terminal?
[07:27] <scguy318> jumbalia: mm, I guess you could install Feisty then upgrade
[07:27] <jumbalia> and messed around a bit with ubuntu
[07:27] <danielax> SerratedX: from a terminal
[07:27] <SerratedX> ty
[07:27] <jumbalia> i didn't know if upgrading would be as "clean" as installing new
[07:28] <scguy318> jumbalia: shouldn't be a problem at all
[07:28] <graelb> Hi
[07:28] <SerratedX> do I need to sudo run it?
[07:28] <knopper_> ya u do
[07:28] <danielax> jumbalia: shouldn't matter really
[07:28] <scguy318> !dualboot
[07:28] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookProFeisty
[07:28] <eyec0n> jumbalia, just change "fiesty" to "gutsy" and its done.
[07:28] <eyec0n> in your sources.list
[07:29] <jumbalia> where is sources.list?
[07:29] <mzuverink> Ive been using kcron in gnome, can someone whose used it let me know if you know of a gnome equivalent?
[07:29] <eyec0n> hmmmm...
[07:29] <mzuverink> besides the command line
[07:29] <eyec0n> you could just install fiesty and do 'update-manager -d' right?
[07:30] <chuy_max> jumbalia This control file is located in /etc/apt/sources.list ( man sources.list )
[07:30] <jumbalia> k
[07:30] <SerratedX> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo chown jay /media/disk
[07:30] <SerratedX> chown: `jay': invalid user
[07:30] <Fiveohthree> how do i find the mysql i installed and remove it?
[07:30] <scguy318> !grub
[07:31] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:31] <SerratedX> should be sudo chown [user]  [drive]  correct?
[07:31] <danielax> ah - you're getting stuffed over by the fact that users on the live cd != users on the disk
[07:31] <danielax> firstly tho, you don't want to make every file on the disk belong to you
[07:31] <danielax> that will probably screw things over
[07:31] <SerratedX> well, I need it to be able to write temp files and boot into xorg
[07:32] <danielax> technicallly its chown [-R optional]  user:group thing
[07:32] <eyec0n> not all your base belong to you.
[07:32] <knopper_> i would mount your disk and then cd into the drectory you want to modify and then perform chown, or chmod or whatever
[07:32] <SerratedX> Oct  4 19:59:11 Jehrico gconfd (root-11056): Resolved address "xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory" to a read-only configuration source at position 0
[07:32] <SerratedX> thats from my syslog
[07:32] <danielax> Fiveohthree: run synaptic/aptitude/whatever
[07:32] <jumbalia> if I want to triple boot (XP, ubuntu, centos) is that a problem?  I have Xp installed now, im installing ubuntu now, should I just install centos next?
[07:33] <danielax> SerratedX: I don't thnk that matters. I get similar messages
[07:33] <eyec0n> jumbalia, long as its on a seperate partition i dont see a problem...
[07:33] <danielax> Fiveohthree: then find the package and remove it
[07:33] <danielax> jumbalia: the fact that it says "gconfd" gives away the fact that it's not directly realted to xord
[07:33] <danielax> xorg rather
[07:35] <eyec0n> jumbalia, what do you need in centos thats not in ubuntu?
[07:35] <jumbalia> eye: I dunno, my roommate wants me to check it out
[07:35] <jumbalia> he says its a lot better
[07:35] <eyec0n> i'd tell him to suck a watermellon.
[07:35] <jumbalia> lol
[07:35] <danielax> jumbalia: maybe a live-cd would be the way to go
[07:35] <SerratedX> and the only EE i get from Xorg.0.log is that it cannot open a wacom device, which I don't have anything like that connected anyway...
[07:35] <jumbalia> daniel: thats a great idea.  I'm used to windows so I forget about live CD's
[07:36] <SerratedX> How the heck do I figure out why X won't start?
[07:36] <jumbalia> SerratedX: I just reinstalled Ubunut, and it fixed it :P
[07:36] <jumbalia> Ubuntu*
[07:36] <danielax> SerratedX: paste the last few lines of the Xorg.0.log into the pastebin
[07:36] <danielax> (and could someone tell me how to read stuff in the pastebin please ? )
[07:37] <SerratedX> (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/wacom
[07:37] <SerratedX> 	No such file or directory.
[07:37] <SerratedX> Error opening /dev/input/wacom : Success
[07:37] <SerratedX> (II) Configured Mouse: ps2EnableDataReporting: succeeded
[07:37] <SerratedX> Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc, removing from list!
[07:37] <SerratedX> Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic, removing from list!
[07:37] <SerratedX> Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1, removing from list!
[07:37] <SerratedX> (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "640x480"
[07:37] <SerratedX> (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "1280x1024"
[07:37] <SerratedX> (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "640x480"
[07:37] <SerratedX> FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc" refcount is 3, should be 2; fixing.
[07:37] <SerratedX> sry for the flood
[07:38] <jumbalia> Should I set up multiple partition for Ubuntu?  I was told to, but I never did because I don't know how much space to have for each partition
[07:38] <danielax> !pastebin
[07:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:38] <jrucker2004> okay, I need a little install help.  I just downloaded and ripped version 7.04, when I started the install, it gave me this message:  /bin/sh:  can't access tty; job control turned off
[07:38] <SerratedX> and the only reason I don't want to completely reinstall is because it's a amd64 OS that i'm using and getting some of the 32-bit apps and extentions are a pain in the ruckus
[07:38] <eyec0n> jumbalia, use the live cd so you can unmount your hard-drive and then use the partition manager in system >
[07:39] <B_166-ER-X> hi, how can i install automatically all needed dependencies when apt-get install a program ?
[07:39] <danielax> jrucker2004: does it stop the install?
[07:39] <jumbalia> eyec0n: is it better to multi-partition?  If so, why?
[07:39] <danielax> B_166-ER-X: apt-get will do it automatically
[07:39] <naut> What's up with the vim packages in dapper backports? They've had broken links for a couple of days now
[07:39] <jrucker2004> danielax:  yeah, that's before it does anything else, I select the run/install (first option) and it goes straight to that message
[07:40] <SerratedX> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39622/
[07:40] <SerratedX> from the point of the nVidia driver
[07:40] <danielax> jrucker2004: I'm slightly confused. What cmmand are you running?
[07:40] <B_166-ER-X> danielax , when i installed acetoneiso and apt-get is telling me a list of need but uninstalled dependencies
[07:40] <eyec0n> jumbalia, I dont think its possable to install windows/ubuntu/centos on one partition... so you have to use multiple partitions
[07:41] <jumbalia> eyec0n: disregard the triple boot.  I was told I should multi-partiton for one installation of ubuntu
[07:41] <danielax> B_166-ER-X: can you paste the whole thing into the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:41] <jrucker2004> danielax:  I boot from the CD, and it gives me the menu with options, I hit enter for the first one "start or install Ubuntu"
[07:42] <jumbalia> eyec0n: I was told to put each "/" (/ome, /etc, etc) in its own partition
[07:42] <danielax> jrucker2004: ok yeas sorry i got confused with you and B_166-ER-X .
[07:42] <Madpilot> jrucker2004, further down that menu is a "Test This CD" option - have you run that?
[07:42] <jrucker2004> madpilot:  no, give me a sec and I will
[07:43] <jrucker2004> madpilot:  it gives me the Ubuntu splash screen/loading screen, the the same message
[07:44] <Madpilot> jrucker2004, then something is badly wrong with the CD. Is it a pressed ShipIt CD, or a home burn?
[07:44] <jrucker2004> I just burned it, let me try in a different computer
[07:44] <danielax> jrucker2004: I never bother. I might be important for a server, but it's overkill for a home system
[07:44] <scguy318> jrucker2004: make sure to burn slow, and check your ISO MD5
[07:44] <danielax> oops jrucker2004 ignore thtat
[07:45] <danielax> jumbalia: I never bother. I might be important for a server, but it's overkill for a home system
[07:45] <jumbalia> ok
[07:45] <Madpilot> jrucker2004, did you check the md5sum of the iso before you burned it?
[07:45] <eyec0n> jumbalia, if you want to install windows/ubuntu/centos you need a partition for windows, a partition for swap, a partition for ubuntu and a partition for cent os
[07:45] <jumbalia> eyec0n: kk
[07:46] <danielax> jumbalia: and if you create a separate home partitiou you can share home directories between cent/ubuntu
[07:46] <jumbalia> jrucker2004: I had to burn my cd at 8x to get it to work right.  Not sure why, but I only have to burn slow for ubuntu
[07:46] <danielax> which may or may not be a good thing
[07:46] <jrucker2004> madpilot and jumbalia:  that must be it, I will rip a new one
[07:46] <SerratedX> anyone see anything in the log file that i missed?
[07:46] <Madpilot> jrucker2004, before you use up more CD-Rs, check the md5
[07:46] <danielax> nope
[07:47] <jrucker2004> madpilot:  how do i do that
[07:47] <danielax> SerratedX: so what exactly goes wrong?
[07:47] <Madpilot> ubotu, md5 | jrucker2004
[07:47] <ubotu> jrucker2004: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[07:47] <danielax> (I'm sure you said before but my memory is short!)
[07:47] <ghost> need some assistance with networking and internet connection sharing. I had a working solution that 'just worked' for me out of no where but now i have broken that using 'guidedog' and now i need assistance
[07:47] <wotanist> How do I restart inetd?
[07:47] <ghost> anyone familiar with linux routing?
[07:47] <danielax> wotanist: why are u running inetd
[07:48] <jrucker2004> thanks ubotu
[07:48] <wotanist> danielax: For the identd daemon
[07:48] <scguy318> wotanist: sudo /etc/init.d/inetd restart I think
[07:48] <jumbalia> So here's a broad question.  What is the main difference between distro's of linux
[07:48] <SerratedX> Whenever I try to boot into ubuntu, It almost looks as if Xorg is going to load, than goes to a blue screen with an error, tells me to check my syslog file, and crashes to the prompt
[07:48] <netstat> hola
[07:48] <netstat> hya alguien hay
[07:48] <danielax> SerratedX: right
[07:48] <Madpilot> jumbalia, different intentions, and different underlying bits and pieces, broadly
[07:48] <SerratedX> this all happened right after Wine was running starcraft for a whole 10 seconds
[07:48] <danielax> ok gotcha
[07:49] <danielax> hmm
[07:49] <wotanist> scguy318: Its saying command not found.
[07:49] <scguy318> SerratedX: perhaps you need a dpkg-reconfiguration on xserver-xorg?
[07:49] <SerratedX> tried that
[07:49] <SerratedX> didn't fix it
[07:49] <danielax> wotanist: ps ax | grep inetd
[07:49] <scguy318> wotanist: that's probably wrong then :P lemme look
[07:49] <blur0eid> does anybody want to help an ubuntu newbie install a .bin file?
[07:49] <SerratedX> any idea what log file has the crash?
[07:50] <wotanist> danielax: It doesn't show up as its running. I'm not sure how to start it.
[07:50] <jinx099_> how do I get banshee to rescan the music library?
[07:50] <danielax> wotanist: have you installed it?
[07:50] <pwnt-> blur0eid: ./file.bin
[07:50] <jumbalia> Am I missing out on using Ubuntu voer other distro's I haven't tried?  Or can I pretty much do the same thing in all of them, just different ways of doing it.  I only want to learn linux and mess around with linux gaming, so nothing major
[07:50] <arooni-mobile> hey folks!
[07:50] <wotanist> I thought it was supposed to have got installed automatically after I installed nullidentd
[07:51] <wotanist> I got this message:  * Not starting internet superserver: no services enabled.
[07:51] <arooni-mobile> i have a 3 button mouse and it works great... but i want to emulate the middle button by pressing left & right button @ same time (middle button is hard to push).... what should i add to my xorg config file to do this?
[07:51] <scguy318> jumbalia: not at all
[07:51] <danielax> wotanist: so no ineted is started because there is nothing for inetd to run
[07:51] <scguy318> arooni-mobile: i forgot, though I know that the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg asks you to enable it or not :P
[07:51] <bascule> jumbalia: the only thing you are missing is a sizeable amount of "this doesn't work..." ;)
[07:51] <danielax> try /etc/init.d/nullinetd restart
[07:51] <blur0eid> pwnt-: i've tried that, it tells me the file does not exist
[07:51] <jumbalia> lol
[07:52] <arooni-mobile> scguy318, but everything is perfect;  i dont want to go through that again ;p
[07:52] <arooni-mobile> its somehting like
[07:52] <arooni-mobile> emulate 3d buttons
[07:52] <eyec0n> jumbalia, you kinda hit the nail on the head... "do the same thing, just different ways of doing it"
[07:52] <pwnt-> blur0eid: then it doesn't. make sure your writting it good
[07:52] <jumbalia> The main argument my roommate used for centos was "Everything is fully and easily customizable, and everything just works"
[07:52] <wotanist> oops, it was openbsd-inetd :p
[07:52] <bascule> true
[07:52] <danielax> arooni-mobile: then you could look in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[07:53] <SerratedX> Oct  4 20:07:49 Jehrico kernel: [236075.195049]  compiz.real[10917] : segfault at 00007fffd37bb298 rip 00002b00d80c1ed0 rsp 00007fffd37bb2a0 error 6
[07:53] <SerratedX> ?
[07:53] <danielax> SerratedX: compiz is dying
[07:53] <danielax> disable compiz
[07:53] <jumbalia> *shrugs* I'll jsut stick with ubuntu until I know enough to know whether I should switch or not
[07:53] <danielax> not quite sure how tho :(
[07:53] <arooni-mobile> danielax, its not in mine currently
[07:53] <bascule> jumbalia: misread that, thought you said centrino ..  it's early here
[07:53] <wotanist> Okay let me see if it worked
[07:53] <SerratedX> and to do that from a live cd?
[07:53] <jeduan> never used centos, but what things should you be prepared to relearn when you switch distros?
[07:54] <blur0eid> pwnt-:i tried copying and pasting directly from the file name, same thing
[07:54] <wotanist> yay! it worked :D
[07:54] <danielax> SerratedX: you're trying to start X from a live cd that is or is not running its own X?
[07:54] <pwnt-> hrm, I don't like this one thing in gnome. Where size of windows changes whenever you go to a different website, Where it changes the title, therfore the size of the window will chanege. How to fix that! I need stable window size
[07:54] <eyec0n> jumbalia, if you want to win that arguement with your roommate tell him bm43xx finally works.
[07:54] <pwnt-> blur0eid: try ./first_char<tab>
[07:54] <jeduan> pwnt, it is fixed in gutsy
[07:54] <pwnt-> jeduan: awesome!
[07:54] <jumbalia> eyec0n: I will.  if I get a balck eye, I'm coming for you :P
[07:54] <SerratedX> X starts just fine from a LiveCD. That's what I'm running right now. But it crashes with I try to run X from the install dir
[07:55] <scguy318> arooni-mobile: ive totally forgotten, you could check the man page of xorg.conf
[07:55] <jeduan> other than that I don't know, it was a long-standing bug in Gnome
[07:55] <scguy318> SerratedX: have you performed the reconfiguration from recovery console?
[07:55] <pwnt-> jeduan: is it fixed by the newer gnome version? Or by gutsy itself!
[07:55] <danielax> you will struggle to run 2 xs at a time
[07:55] <bascule> jeduan: 'what will be different' is such a hard thing to quantify, it depends on your usage
[07:55] <SerratedX> yep
[07:55] <jeduan> by the newer gnome version packaged in gutsy
[07:55] <pwnt-> jeduan: do you recommend updating to gutsy right now? or wait a bit.
[07:55] <eyec0n> pwnt-: i'd recommend it... i've been using it since tribe 5 and its mad stable
[07:56] <wotanist> Anyone here tried watching a Blu-ray movie in Ubuntu? I checked some sites and it only covers ripping HD-DVD but thats not what I want to do. I just want to play it from the disc directly. It works fine using WinDVD BD in Windows.
[07:56] <pwnt-> eyec0n: Thank you~
[07:56] <eyec0n> just be prepaired to download updates everyday :/
[07:56] <pwnt-> oh well, some people saying wait until it fully release, but damn I can't wait.
[07:56] <Tomcat_`> wotanist: The Ubuntu wiki says you can't play directly.
[07:56] <jeduan> pwnt: i've got minor breakages but things are really stable since it was marked beta
[07:56] <SerratedX> is there an amd64 ver. of gutsy available?
[07:56] <Tomcat_`> !bluray
[07:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bluray - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:56] <wotanist> :[
[07:56] <pwnt-> eyec0n: did you update using the "Update manager sypantic" or command line, or did you download a new .iso file & new linux install?
[07:57] <jeduan> i've updated via update manager, and it went really well
[07:57] <eyec0n> pwnt-: I change "fiesty" to "gutsy" in my sources.list and did apt-get upgrade
[07:57] <pwnt-> eyec0n: brilliant
[07:57] <wotanist> I should have bought a laptop with HD-DVD instead
[07:57] <Tomcat_`> !hddvd
[07:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hddvd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:57] <blur0eid> pwnt-:i get: syntax error near unexpected token `newline' ... but i'm not sure i understood your instructions.  i might have taken them too literally
[07:57] <danielax> eyec0n: i'd recommend a dist-upgrade
[07:58] <Tomcat_`> wotanist: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD
[07:58] <pwnt-> eyec0n: but what is the different between that, & clicking "Update to gutsy" in the "Update manager"
[07:58] <Tomcat_`> wotanist: Same with HD-DVD apparently.
[07:58] <wotanist> Tomcat_`: Checked that already. It only covers HD-DVD.
[07:58] <eyec0n> danielax: the system works perfect.
[07:58] <Tomcat_`> wotanist: Oh. Okay.
[07:58] <jeduan> pwnt, it may be safer to do enter 'gksudo "update-manager -d" ' on the run command window (alt-f2)
[07:58] <pwnt-> blur0eid: yea. well thing is, im sure you haven't wrote the file name correctly.
[07:58] <eyec0n> danielax: I dont see what the difference would be
[07:58] <wotanist> Crap, I thought I'll get rid of Windows ;[
[07:58] <pwnt-> jeduan: hm, why. just curious to know
[07:58] <danielax> eyec0n: dependance handling is different
[07:59] <danielax> eyec0n: really aptitude would be the best, but anyway...
[07:59] <ivanhoe> i ha ve ap roblems with my soundcard in a acer travelmate
[07:59] <ivanhoe> 5310
[07:59] <ivanhoe> do you know how-to for build drivers
[07:59] <eyec0n> hm. well yeah it worked for me anyway
[07:59] <pwnt-> if i get this beta gutsy. and after a few days when gutsy is fully release. I just do an "update" again and i'll have the final release of gutsy, yes?
[07:59] <danielax> eyec0n: well, good for you :)
[08:00] <Tomcat_`> pwnt-: Correct.
[08:00] <danielax> pwnt-: update, then upgrade
[08:00] <wotanist> Those guys from Intervideo should make a Linux version of their DVD player :)
[08:00] <pwnt-> cool! brb upgrading to gutsy :)
[08:01] <jeduan> pwnt: because the script just does the changes when it checks everything is good (eg. if a repo is down it won't do anything on your system). Also it was a script specially designed to do the task of upgrading with less work, so i'll assume ther was more testing on it
[08:01] <eyec0n> I love gutsy simply because bm43xx works and I can finally use my wireless
[08:01] <kantor> when you create a ext3 partition you can reserve a certain amount of space for the root user (default is 5 %), after the partition is created and used can I change that size on the "fly" or I must to reformat the partition to select disable it?
[08:01] <jumbalia> what is bm42xx?
[08:02] <eyec0n> broadcom drivers
[08:02] <jumbalia> i take it broadcom is really popular?
[08:02] <jeduan> oh, great, did it work out of the box or did you have to do ndiswrapper/fwcutter stuff?
[08:02] <blur0eid> pwnt- or anybody else who can help: is there any way i should be directing terminal to a certain directory (the file's on my desktop) or should i place the .bin file in a certain folder?
[08:03] <eyec0n> jeduan, you can finally enable it in restricted drivers
[08:03] <jeduan> oh, that's great eyec0n
[08:03] <jeduan> got a friend with a tablet who was eager to try gutsy
[08:03] <eyec0n> yeah it was a great day when I downloaded that update...
[08:04] <trdracer> hey everybody my ubuntu partition blah is effed up...i need that dang boot system back up for windows.
[08:04] <trdracer> says error 22
[08:04] <jeduan> blur0eid: not sure I understood, but you can find the files on your destkop on the terminal by entering "ls Desktop"
[08:04] <scguy318> trdracer: did you reinstall the MBR as advised?
[08:04] <dino_> How can I make this work: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=511166... when there is no restricted drivers for my computer....._
[08:04] <dino_> ?
[08:04] <trdracer> MBR no....
[08:04] <trdracer> =\
[08:05] <scguy318> trdracer: can you burn a CD?
[08:05] <trdracer> i hope so
[08:05] <trdracer> what will it need to be? scguy318
[08:05] <scguy318> trdracer: good, lemme find the URL of Super GRUB
[08:05] <trdracer> well idk...im on ubuntu man i dont know how i would do this...
[08:06] <trdracer> i dont know anything about this thats why i didnt want it anymore
[08:06] <trdracer> after about 4 hours on it
[08:06] <trdracer> not worth the hassle of not hearing my music as i wish
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[08:06] <riotkittie> hearing your music is not a monumental task.
[08:06] <scguy318> trdracer: you do know that you can install the restricted plugins? ok
[08:06] <scguy318> trdracer: http://sgd.howto-linux.de/download/binaries/sgd/cdrom/sgd_current.iso
[08:06] <scguy318> trdracer: well, mmmmmm
[08:07] <scguy318> trdracer: you are running from the LiveCD?
[08:07] <trdracer> yeah
[08:07] <trdracer> .........
[08:07] <trdracer> if i lose my music i will hunt down the creators of ubuntu
[08:07] <jeduan> you'd have a hard time trying to find them all
[08:07] <bastid_raZor> trdracer: make a backup like any sane person would do
[08:07] <trdracer> scguy318 what is it that i do here with this?
[08:07] <trdracer> jeduan i will just need a few of them :P
[08:08] <riotkittie> why? did they install it on your hard drive? are they messing with your file systems?
[08:08] <scguy318> trdracer: i'm thinking
[08:08] <Madpilot> trdracer, did you actually install, or are you just running the LiveCD? Because the LiveCD itself won't touch you hard drives...
[08:08] <jeduan> lol
[08:08] <scguy318> Madpilot: he installed, he didn't like it
[08:08] <scguy318> Madpilot: he wants his old Windows back, but I think he forgot to replace the MBR
[08:08] <trdracer> i installed it already...and deleted the partitions since i didnt know how ot uninstall
[08:08] <blur0eid> jeduan: ok, it sees the file .bin i'm trying to install.  but what would i do next to install it?  ./<file> isn't working, and i don't know how i'm misspelling it
[08:08] <riotkittie> deleting the partitions is how you uninstall
[08:08] <blur0eid> should there be anything between ./ and the name of the file?
[08:08] <scguy318> trdracer: i suggested several times to burn Super GRUB CD, mm, do you have an XP CD at hand?
[08:08] <danielax> jeduan: try chmod +x the file
[08:08] <trdracer> no =\
[08:08] <riotkittie> if you want windows, put your CD in and enter the recovery console
[08:09] <jeduan> blur0eid: cd Desktop<enter>./file.bin
[08:09] <danielax> then try running it
[08:09] <trdracer> oh my gawd.dont tell me this scguy318
[08:09] <pwnt-> jeduan: I tried what you said. in alt-f2 run command window, I wrote this 'Could not open location 'file:///gksudo &quot;update-manager -d' appeared to me.
[08:09] <scguy318> trdracer: your Windows partition is just fine
[08:09] <danielax> try just gksudo 'update-manager -d'
[08:09] <jeduan> without the first quotes
[08:09] <scguy318> trdracer: lemme find one of those bin files
[08:09] <danielax> with out the file stuff
[08:09] <trdracer> yeah i can see the files but i cant axx it through windows.
[08:10] <pwnt-> jeduan: you mean without gksudo & the ""'s ?
[08:10] <trdracer> plus in ubuntu i hate how its looks so crammed...
[08:10] <trdracer> i like a wider look to everything
[08:10] <trdracer> small windows and what not
[08:10] <riotkittie> that's easily fixed.
[08:10] <blur0eid> jeduan: ok, that's one step further.  now it says 'cannot execute binary file'
[08:10] <jeduan> trdtracer does your pc have a floppy disk drive?
[08:10] <trdracer> yeah
[08:10] <Madpilot> trdracer, resolution is easily fixed...
[08:10] <bastid_raZor> maybe you should set your resolution
[08:10] <danielax> pwnt-: write the stuff between the double quotes "gtksu 'update-manager -d'"
[08:10] <jeduan> chmod +x file.bin<enter>./file.bin
[08:10] <trdracer> ?
[08:11] <scguy318> trdracer: do you have a USB stick?
[08:11] <danielax> blur0eid: where did teh file come from
[08:11] <scguy318> jeduan: ?
[08:11] <trdracer> i just dont like how all this is set up....thought i would
[08:11] <riotkittie> i am tabbing to another window lest my head explode :x
[08:11] <pwnt-> danielax: thanks
[08:11] <scguy318> !grub
[08:11] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:11] <jeduan> sorry, was to blur0eid
[08:11] <cesar__> irc emesene
[08:11] <pwnt-> Does upgrading to gutsy take only few seconds? Cause that how it seemed to me. only few seconds
[08:11] <danielax> pwnt-: no - it should take several mins...
[08:11] <bastid_raZor> and probably a reboot
[08:11] <jeduan> if he has a floppy drive, he can insert one of those recovery floppies, and then get fdisk to reformat the mbr
[08:12] <blur0eid> danielax: it's the emusic remote installer
[08:12] <danielax> ah, fdisk /mumble
[08:12] <jumbalia> pwnt: I can't help much because I'm a noob, but did you update fully before going to gutsy?  I know people were having probs with that earlier
[08:12] <danielax> weird...
[08:12] <scguy318> trdracer: god forbid that I should have to hunt for a LiveCD to make a damn MBR bin file :(
[08:12] <trdracer> i have a floppy disk drive with no floppy dicsc
[08:12] <scguy318> trdracer: errrgh
[08:12] <jeduan> fdisk /mbr IIRC
[08:12] <danielax> Just to ask a stoopid question, it is the linux installer right?
[08:12] <jeduan> do you have another windows machine available?
[08:12] <pwnt-> jumbalia: yes I diffo did.
[08:12] <trdracer> i have another windows system available
[08:13] <scguy318> trdracer: perfect
[08:13] <scguy318> trdracer: perfect
[08:13] <scguy318> trdracer: can it burn?
[08:13] <trdracer> ouch.no not anymore.
[08:13] <scguy318> trdracer: can it write to a floppy?
[08:13] <trdracer> =\
[08:13] <trdracer> this is the only one that can atm
[08:13] <wotanist> hmm
[08:14] <chuy_max> how do I enable flash in Konqueror?
[08:14] <scguy318> trdracer: k lemme download Linux System REscue CD and lemme make an MBR bin from my fine Windows machine
[08:14] <danielax> chuy_max: simplest way si probably to install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:14] <trdracer> i highly appreciate your help scguy318 :)
[08:14] <trdracer> especially if it works
[08:14] <danielax> that will give you flash, java, mp3s, dvd(?) and other fun stuff
[08:14] <blur0eid> jeduan: chmod +x file.bin<enter> gives me another line, then ./file.bin still gives me 'cannot execute binary file'
[08:14] <wotanist> Who is 58.252.71.21?
[08:14] <scguy318> not me
[08:14] <pwnt-> Third party sources disabled error popped to me while upgrading to gutsy.
[08:15] <wotanist> Someone just tried to connect via SSH :p
[08:15] <pwnt-> Some third party entries in your sources.list were disabled. You can re-enable them after the upgrade with the 'software-properties' tool or your package manager.
[08:15] <jeduan> my ip is 127.0.0.1
[08:15] <wotanist> orly
[08:15] <danielax> pwnt-: shouldn't matter
[08:15] <jeduan> it can't be me
[08:15] <danielax> jeduan: yeah - mine is 192.168.1.132
[08:15] <danielax> non-routable ftw!
[08:15] <jeduan> lol
[08:16] <scguy318> trdracer: 7 minute wait
[08:16] <chuy_max> ty danielax, let me download it
[08:16] <scguy318> trdracer: an impractical way I could imagine without mah MBR fun is to...reinstall Ubuntu, burn ze fine Super GRUB ISO, boot, done, but takes too long, and I know you probably don't wanna do it again
[08:16] <jeduan> blu0reid: what does ls -l *.bin give you?
[08:16] <jrucker2004> madpilot:  okay, I checked the md5, everything checked out okay, and I burned a new CD at 4x, still having the same problem
[08:16] <jumbalia> How do I add my ubuntu cd as a source? It's not working automatically.  I put the disk in and nothing
[08:17] <danielax> blur0eid: what does file file.bin say
[08:17] <Madpilot> jumbalia, that only works with the alternative CD
[08:17] <jumbalia> I had it working with this cd yesterday
[08:17] <trdracer> so i will have to install ubuntu all over??
[08:17] <danielax> trdracer: no
[08:17] <danielax> trdracer: but you could if you wanted to :P
[08:17] <Madpilot> jrucker2004, hmm... even the 'Check This CD' option fails?
[08:17] <jumbalia> I cant install ndiswrapper without the cd
[08:17] <trdracer> negative daneilax
[08:18] <trdracer> i think id rather intall windows 95.
[08:18] <jeduan> jumbalia, try with gksudo software-properties-gtk
[08:18] <scguy318> today's Friday, I'll stay up for this
[08:18] <jeduan> wow, that's mean
[08:18] <scguy318> oh god forbid trdracer
[08:18] <riotkittie> then go install windows 95.
[08:18] <blur0eid> jeduan: i get  command-not-found [options]  <command-name>
[08:18] <blur0eid> command-not-found: error: no such option: -l
[08:18] <blur0eid> daniellax: command not found
[08:18] <jeduan> to your computer
[08:18] <danielax> trdracer: each to his own :)
[08:18] <scguy318> my VM install of that baby BSoDed on startup
[08:18] <danielax> file?
[08:18] <danielax> wth?
[08:18] <trdracer> i know scguy318 hah i wouldnt.
[08:19] <jrucker2004> madpilot: same message another question:  version 7.04  do i need to do anything special to install to a sata HD?
[08:19] <scguy318> jrucker2004: no
[08:19] <trdracer> thats how much i dislike the resolution and appyling my audio fixes and what not
[08:19] <danielax> blur0eid: you are typing "file ./file.bin", without quotes, and it says file not found
[08:19] <Madpilot> jrucker2004, you shouldn't - my only HDD is SATA, everything has always run perfectly
[08:19] <scguy318> trdracer: so how is it in Irvine?
[08:19] <danielax> trdracer: well, you can install 95 and then ask for help on a windows channel if you want :)
[08:20] <Madpilot> jrucker2004, that said, I've heard that some SATA chipsets hate Linux...
[08:20] <jrucker2004> okay, any ideas with the error message?
[08:20] <jumbalia> Still not recognizing there is a cd in the drive
[08:20] <jumbalia> I can access the cd, but synaptic says there is no cd
[08:20] <trdracer> scguy its good in southern california
[08:20] <trdracer> the best
[08:20] <riotkittie> wow. it'd take all of 45 seconds to complete those changes and make your system usable
[08:20] <danielax> got to go and eat, so see ya, people
[08:20] <jeduan> jurcker2004: you might want to google with your specific chipset, but normally it's ok
[08:20] <trdracer> riotkittie...the problem is i know nothing about this os.
[08:21] <trdracer> i just wanted to find out how it was
[08:21] <hammer123> !java > hammer123
[08:21] <trdracer> appears /me made the wrong choice for himself
[08:21] <riotkittie> trdracer: no, the problem isn't that you know nothing about the OS, it's that you're refusing to take the time to learn.
[08:22] <trdracer> well i prefer everything to be quick and efficient and i have no patience
[08:22] <blur0eid> danielax: i get "./file.bin: ERROR: cannot open `./file.bin' (No such file or directory)"
[08:22] <hammer123> if i wanna install java runtime, how do i do it? it says here i have to get it from multiverse something..?
[08:22] <scguy318> trdracer: mm, I used to live in San Jose
[08:22] <Madpilot> trdracer, all of your problems w/ Ubuntu are easily fixable. Assuming you actually want to learn anything about fixing them.
[08:22] <blur0eid> sorry about all this confusion, i'm very new to the terminal
[08:22] <trdracer> id love to but not always wanting to come in here to ask about my simple problems.
[08:22] <jeduan> blur0eid: cd Desktop<enter> and then everything they are telling you
[08:22] <Snuxoll> trdracer: What problems are you having
[08:23] <scguy318> Snuxoll: well, right now, his fine MBR needs fixing to return to Windows
[08:23] <jeduan> he installed, erased the partitions and now the mbr can't find grub
[08:23] <trdracer> i know nothing about this..and how the filing system works.
[08:23] <trdracer> and i cant get my audio files to work
[08:23] <ofnet> I want to know in a good software company on the average everyday how many lines of codes does a programmer code
[08:23] <Madpilot> ubotu, mp3 | trdracer
[08:23] <tonyyarusso> trdracer: what version of Ubuntu do you have btw?
[08:23] <ubotu> trdracer: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:24] <Snuxoll> trdracer: Audio files are easy to work, open up "Movie Player" then open up your MP3...it will ask to install the codec right then
[08:24] <aldaek> is there a coming release for ubuntu?
[08:24] <jeduan> ofnet: it depends on factors such as programming language and type of project
[08:24] <scguy318> aldaek: yep
[08:24] <scguy318> !gutsy
[08:24] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[08:24] <Snuxoll> aldaek: 7.10 in 14 days
[08:24] <Snuxoll> Wait...13 now isn't it?
[08:24] <jeduan> yep
[08:25] <trdracer> and right now it just froze i couldnt click out of anything.
[08:25] <ofnet> jeduan, from top of head, how many lines on the average
[08:25] <trdracer> i had to close firefox.
[08:25] <trdracer> almost restarted the system.
[08:25] <ofnet> jeduan, whats max min you coded in busy slow day ?
[08:25] <riotkittie> wow. i've never had to close firefox or reboot in windows.  i can see why you're eager to go back.
[08:26] <scguy318> trdracer: im burning now
[08:26] <jeduan> ofnet: hehehe, I don't really count the lines...
[08:27] <trdracer> all i see hear to adjut the settings of the resolution...are the default ones..
[08:27] <Snuxoll> trdracer: What resolution do you want, and what size of monitor do you have
[08:27] <trdracer> well i want it to look like my windows.
[08:28] <trdracer> small icons small fonts
[08:28] <trdracer> big wide picture
[08:28] <trdracer> i candt explaing things well..
[08:28] <trdracer> thats also why i dont want to use this.
[08:28] <scguy318> trdracer: your resolution? a simple sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:28] <Snuxoll> trdracer: What resolution?
[08:28] <trdracer> i cant explain my problems.
[08:28] <trdracer> i just know them
[08:28] <tonyyarusso> trdracer: follow the instructions sent to you and you'll be fine.
[08:28] <scguy318> trdracer: well, whatever suits you, I guess
[08:28] <jeduan> trdtracer: do you have an intel video chip?
[08:28] <dino_> '';[
[08:28] <trdracer> jeduan i have no clue...
[08:29] <scguy318> trdracer: what jeduan is trying to suggest is that if that's the case, 915resolution ;)
[08:29] <scguy318> is the ticket
[08:29] <trdracer> i dont even know how to find that out on here
[08:29] <scguy318> trdracer: lspci
[08:29] <jumbalia> now I cant install ndiswrapper
[08:29] <trdracer> all i know is that i have a 21'LCD
[08:29] <Snuxoll> trdracer: Way I see it, one way or another linux is "too hard" for you.....if you are so gungho that Windows is stable, etc. use it then....
[08:29] <jumbalia> "loadndisdriver.c:15:20: error: stdlib.h: No such file or directory
[08:29] <tonyyarusso> !fixres | trdracer, seriously, there is a FAQ for this
[08:29] <ubotu> trdracer, seriously, there is a FAQ for this: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:29] <jeduan> lspci | grep VGA on the terminal gets it for me
[08:30] <trdracer> its not hard for me its just that i dont want to read all kinds of forums for days to learn
[08:30] <trdracer> for every questions i ask people send me to forums...
[08:30] <trdracer> only a few have helped me well
[08:30] <Madpilot> trdracer, you're going to have to do *some* reading...
[08:30] <trdracer> scguy318 being one
[08:30] <trdracer> and a few earlier
[08:31] <trdracer> well im sure someone here can do it much more efficient.
[08:31] <Snuxoll> trdracer: Linux != Windows, learn that FAST, you WILL have to learn some new things, that involves reading, forums are much better for well-established problems than doing it all over again in IRC
[08:31] <trdracer> its like math they can tell you the easy way but they want you to know the full thurough way
[08:31] <jumbalia> ok i figured it out, i didnt have headers
[08:31] <tonyyarusso> trdracer: No, the people here wrote wiki pages such as the one linked by ubotu so that we wouldn't have to flood the channel with the same thing hundreds of times a day.
[08:31] <Madpilot> trdracer, no, the most efficient thing to do is read the documents you've been linked to. Seriously.
[08:31] <jumbalia> what is the difference between 2.6.20-15 and 2.6.20-15generic
[08:32] <trdracer> i wouldnt mind but i dont like the resolution currently.
[08:32] <scguy318> trdracer: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[08:32] <trdracer> thats the biggest issue well 2nd biggest along with the audio
[08:32] <tonyyarusso> jumbalia: without anything following would be the source package
[08:32] <jeduan> good night everyone!
[08:32] <scguy318> trdracer: cant wait for gutsy's graphical xorg.conf :D :D :D
[08:32] <trdracer> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg <000 that is all foreign language to me
[08:32] <scguy318> trdracer: terminal cmd
[08:33] <jumbalia> ./sigh Actually turns out i do have headers installed
[08:33] <tonyyarusso> trdracer: Application > Accessories > Terminal
[08:33] <trdracer> i will try that tonyyarusso
[08:33] <blur0eid> cd desktop still not working, i run ./file.bin and and get 'cannot execute binary file,' if nobody else has an idea for now i'm going to bed
[08:33] <jrucker2004> madpilot:  here's where I'm at:  I installed Ubuntu onto virtual pc from the ISO, and from the CD I burned, both worked just fine, so I think it's either a hardware or driver problem on the other computer
[08:34] <trdracer> oh gawd..it comes out as if i have to type in raw/sytanx comands.
[08:34] <jumbalia> thats right, i need build essentials
[08:34] <trdracer> for like irc script editing and aliases..
[08:34] <scguy318> trdracer: it's just the CLI GUI (isn't that an oxymoron? :P)
[08:34] <trdracer> pretty much like foobar configuring..
[08:34] <Madpilot> jrucker2004, must be. not much you can do if it is that sort of hardware issue, which is too bad..
[08:34] <trdracer> the thing is with all these abbreviations is i dont know what they mean.
[08:34] <tonyyarusso> trdracer: Um, you've already been given the commands.  Can you copy and paste or not?
[08:34] <trdracer> CLI ?
[08:34] <Snuxoll> trdracer: The terminal is used frequently because it is a FAST way to do stuff
[08:34] <trdracer> i know what GUI is
[08:34] <scguy318> Command-Line Interface
[08:34] <trdracer> oh those commands in the forums??
[08:35] <jrucker2004> madpilot:  no that's easy to fix, send it back to HP :p
[08:35] <tonyyarusso> trdracer: It's a wiki.
[08:35] <Snuxoll> GUI's lead to a mess of, click this tab, click this tab, click this button, click this tab, check this box
[08:35] <Madpilot> jrucker2004, if it's new enough, sure
[08:35] <scguy318> wow they redid the System Rescue CD menu
[08:35] <jrucker2004> madpilot:  thanks a bunch for the help, I'm out
[08:35] <jumbalia> Now i just need to figure out how to get my cd to be recognized by synaptic
[08:36] <blur0eid> thanks everybody for your help
[08:36] <scguy318> welcome to shell!
[08:36] <scguy318> k im gonna make that MBR bin file now
[08:36] <lalolanda> exploit for openssh???
[08:36] <jumbalia> !csh
[08:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about csh - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:36] <jumbalia> :(
[08:37] <scguy318> lalolanda: ?
[08:37] <trdracer> all this madness leads to commands not knows.
[08:37] <trdracer> not found
[08:37] <ferronica> Is there any nice GRUB avilable for ubuntu 7.04 for dual boot Xp and ubuntu ?
[08:37] <scguy318> trdracer: what are you doing now?
[08:38] <trdracer> waiting.
[08:38] <scguy318> ferronica: the installer should make a menu.lst that permits you to dual-boot but
[08:38] <jumbalia> ferronica: I just use the default grub and it works great
[08:38] <trdracer> i was looking into the wiki but its just lost me.
[08:38] <trdracer> not the type of forums/wiki im used to
[08:38] <trdracer> it looks like genetics to me
[08:38] <ferronica> any nice graphical type ?
[08:38] <trdracer> im actually on xubuntu atm
[08:39] <Heromant> which file system - reiser or ext do i choose>
[08:39] <tonyyarusso> Heromant: I'd recommend ext3.
[08:39] <jumbalia> Ok, i cannot get synaptic to use my CD as a repository
[08:39] <jumbalia> is there another way to get build essentials?
[08:39] <scguy318> file is created, rebooting
[08:39] <Madpilot> Heromant, ext3 is default & recommended
[08:39] <tonyyarusso> jumbalia: From the normal web repos?
[08:39] <scguy318> gotta love the penguin :P
[08:39] <jumbalia> I need build essentials to get my internet working
[08:39] <Heromant> what about reiser?
[08:40] <scguy318> jumbalia: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:40] <jumbalia> i get the error "E: Failed to mount the cdrom"
[08:40] <tonyyarusso> jumbalia: Ah.  You could download all of the dependencies from packages.ubuntu.com on another computer, and put them on a flash drive.
[08:40] <jumbalia> invalid operation build essentials
[08:40] <Flannel> jumbalia: did you try `sudo apt-cdrom add`
[08:40] <scguy318> jumbalia: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:40] <scguy318> remember the install :)
[08:41] <scguy318> grrrr smbfs :P
[08:41] <scguy318> need to start using the CIFS
[08:41] <jumbalia> cannot find buld-essentials package
[08:41] <scguy318> *build-essentials
[08:41] <scguy318> check your typing
[08:41] <jumbalia> also flannel: E Failed to moint the cdrom
[08:41] <scguy318> and dont stick the asterisk
[08:41] <tonyyarusso> There's no s on the end, just build-essential
[08:41] <Heromant> is ext3 better than NTFS is windoz?
[08:41] <jumbalia> but when I insert the cd, I have full access to it from my desktop
[08:41] <tonyyarusso> Heromant: yes.
[08:41] <trdracer> right now it just logged off on me
[08:41] <jumbalia> still cant find build-essential
[08:42] <tonyyarusso> jumbalia: try the manual route I said then
[08:42] <Madpilot> trdracer, 'logged off'?
[08:42] <brico> on the subject of NTFS, do you always have to login as root to write to the drive?
[08:42] <jumbalia> meh, ill jsut try to downlaod build-essentials on another comp
[08:42] <brico> to an ntfs drive that is
[08:42] <trdracer> yeah when i tried to change the resolution...
[08:42] <scguy318> brico: no
[08:42] <scguy318> brico: if you tweak your fstab mount settings, you can have it owned by your user account or umask=000 or w/e
[08:42] <Madpilot> brico, you need to change permissions on your ntfs drive
[08:43] <tonyyarusso> trdracer: you restarted the X server
[08:43] <Madpilot> ubotu, ntfs | brico
[08:43] <ubotu> brico: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:43] <trdracer> at times i cant even click on these tabs and what not
[08:43] <trdracer> well it also wasnt accepting my user name and pass
[08:43] <trdracer> so i had to wait 30 seconds for user ubuntu......
[08:43] <scguy318> trdracer: its ubuntu/ubuntu
[08:43] <tonyyarusso> Then you should remember your password.
[08:43] <vintle> jumbalia: did you enable the universal  and multiverse repositories?
[08:43] <scguy318> trdracer: the LiveCD user differs from the installed user/pass
[08:43] <scguy318> trdracer: which is long wiped
[08:43] <jumbalia> I dont know what those are vintle
[08:43] <trdracer> ohh..
[08:44] <trdracer> scguy318 that almost complete?
[08:44] <vintle> jumbalia: do you have a GUI? or are you in Command Line interface?
[08:44] <jumbalia> it just makes me mad that i used to be able to mount the cd before I reinstalled ubuntu
[08:44] <scguy318> trdracer: yep, I'm gonna put it on rapidshare now
[08:44] <jumbalia> I have both vintle
[08:44] <scguy318> trdracer: then one command and u done
[08:44] <trdracer> what is the one command??
[08:45] <vintle> jumbalia: ok in CLI type nano /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the universe and multiverse entries
[08:45] <trdracer> i have no knowledge of any commands related to this
[08:45] <scguy318> trdracer: dd if=mbr.bin of=/dev/yourharddiskdevice bs=442 count=1
[08:45] <scguy318> trdracer: i forgot to ask you
[08:45] <scguy318> trdracer: please pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l
[08:45] <trdracer> why cant i copy and paste that
[08:45] <trdracer> idk how to do that
[08:45] <vintle> jumbalia as superuser by the way or i can tell you how to do it in GUI if you like
[08:45] <scguy318> !pastebin | trdracer
[08:45] <ubotu> trdracer: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:46] <trdracer> i cant even click on that link atm
[08:46] <jumbalia> doesnt matter vintle
[08:46] <scguy318> trdracer: Firefox not working?
[08:47] <trdracer> this is barely even working.
[08:47] <trdracer> and i also cant click on firefoxs.
[08:47] <trdracer> cant even click on applications
[08:47] <scguy318> trdracer: okay then, in the fine Terminal
[08:48] <scguy318> trdracer: well, mm, wget won't take so kindly to rapidshare's anti-leech methods
[08:48] <ofnet> is it advisable to open and close a file to write in it inside a function that is called very often ?
[08:48] <trdracer> got it to work.
[08:48] <trdracer> i have to right click on all kinds of stuff now to activate all
[08:48] <jumbalia> vintle: they are already uncommented
[08:48] <trdracer> scguy318 may i pm?
[08:48] <ferronica> Graphical Grub for ubuntu 7.04 ?
[08:49] <trdracer> or just join #nonsense
[08:49] <scguy318> trdracer: yes
[08:49] <scguy318> ferronica: GrubEd, its on the forums
[08:49] <ferronica> scguy318: let me check it :)
[08:50] <hammer123> how do i make a script to automatically run sudo pon dsl-provider each time i start ubuntu? i don;t want it to ask for password either
[08:50] <overclucker> haha, Monster just asked me a million questions about cpu overclocking, then decides it was too hard
[08:50] <Guest15726> !adsl
[08:50] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[08:51] <carlinux> Hi, I did a system update and my mouse is really slow, what should i do
[08:51] <jumbalia> vintle: they are already uncommented
[08:52] <hammer123> i install sun-java5-jre but when i go to the site, it still ask to install java plugin..
[08:52] <darkchr0n0s> srsly
[08:53] <darkchr0n0s> no1 can help me to reduce the displlay brightness !!
[08:53] <darkchr0n0s> display* brightness of a sony vaio
[08:53] <jumbalia> ok, sudo apt-cdrom add says the it failed to mount the cdrom, but I can access the cdrom through gui.  is there a log of why it cannot mount?
[08:53] <disinterested> hammer: i had issues with java too
[08:54] <overclucker> darkchr0n0s, look at a bright light for a couple seconds, then look back at the screen. tada!
[08:54] <hammer123> aha...
[08:54] <hammer123> i am downloading the .bin file from java.com now...see if that install should do the trick or not
[08:54] <disinterested> but my issue was with java and azureus
[08:55] <disinterested> hammer123: is java asking u in the terminal about java5 docs?
[08:56] <hammer123> no...i go to one site, which has java plugins to show some charts...but the chart won't show instead it ask to install java plugin
[08:56] <disinterested> then it doesnt install them?
[08:56] <astro76> hammer123, install sun-java5-plugin
[08:56] <hammer123> i will try that
[08:59] <hammer123> astro76: that worked
[08:59] <jumbalia> ok, i found out why it was not mounting
[08:59] <hammer123> thanks
[08:59] <jumbalia> it says that my install cd for ubuntu does not have any repositories
[08:59] <hammer123> how do i remove sun-java5-jre...or do i need it?
[08:59] <jumbalia> but the problem is, build-essentials comes on the cd, and the cd worked less than 8 hours ago.  It stopped working once I reinstalled
[08:59] <hammer123> since now i have the sun-jave5-plugin
[08:59] <jumbalia> does anyone know where build-essentials is on the cd?
[08:59] <Scarey> hammer123: probably for running open office.
[09:00] <astro76> hammer123, you need it, plugin is just the plugin
[09:00] <hammer123> cool...thanks every1
[09:01] <sharperguy> lol did they put OOo 2.3 into the main repo?
[09:01] <pwnt-> i think my ubuntu is confused wether i have kubuntu or xubuntu or gnome orig ubuntu
[09:01] <jumbalia> or does anyone know where I can download build-essentials?
[09:02] <brico> uboto: thank you
[09:02] <brico> Madpilot: thank you
[09:02] <darkchr0n0s> srsly
[09:02] <usr13> jumbalia, Use apt-get
[09:03] <usr13> or synaptic
[09:03] <darkchr0n0s> i am lagging a lot.. please don't ban me for 3-4 lines
[09:03] <hammer123> i realis something...java run faster on linux compare to windows
[09:03] <jumbalia> usr13: I cannot.  I need build-essentials to get my winternet working, and for some reason synaptic is saying that my cd has no sources
[09:03] <Renderbox> Are the ubuntu servers slow today? My update is running terribly slow from the past 15 minutes
[09:03] <jumbalia> it has sources, I used them to install build-essentials yesterday on a different install
[09:03] <scguy318> Renderbox: yes, it's Gutsy
[09:03] <pwnt-> Renderbox: yes they are.
[09:04] <pwnt-> its maybe me who is slowing down gutsy :p
[09:04] <Renderbox> I'm getting 3 to 6KBps
[09:04] <Renderbox> kB/sec
[09:04] <scguy318> Renderbox: whoa, pretty bad
[09:04] <pwnt-> because im upgrading from feisty to gutsy right now.
[09:04] <usr13> jumbalia, So, you need to be able to download it manually...   ?
[09:04] <scguy318> Renderbox: i got around 50 KB/s
[09:04] <scguy318> Renderbox: perhaps you could use a different mirror
[09:04] <pwnt-> that upgrade might take 4 to 5 hrs from me.
[09:04] <jumbalia> usr13: thats what its looking oike, but i cant find it online
[09:04] <Renderbox> How do I use a different mirror?
[09:05] <pwnt-> scguy318: what do you mean when you say its gutsy. means the feisty users updater won't lag? Only gutsy updater users?
[09:05] <usr13> your kernel is 2.6.20-16?
[09:05] <Renderbox> I'm upgrading to 16
[09:06] <namiwawa> i want to update my system through console
[09:06] <namiwawa> command please
[09:06] <jumbalia> 2.6.20-15generic
[09:06] <pwnt-> 2.6.20-16-generic
[09:06] <pwnt-> is this the latest kernel?
[09:06] <hammer123> i am sorry...i just have to say this
[09:06] <jumbalia> sory, didnt know who you were asking
[09:06] <hammer123> i love ubuntu :))
[09:06] <scguy318> hello Jordan_U
[09:06] <MrGigabyte> jumbalia: heres a link but its for deb i think http://packages.debian.org/sarge/build-essential
[09:06] <pwnt-> hammer123: ubuntu loves you too.
[09:06] <jumbalia> is it bad if its for deb? and thank you
[09:07] <Jordan_U> scguy318, Hi
[09:07] <pwnt-> scguy318: why you don't answer me?
[09:07] <Jordan_U> jumbalia, You should not use debian packages in Ubuntu
[09:07] <jumbalia> k
[09:07] <jumbalia> I'm just gonna reinstall ubuntu again
[09:07] <MrGigabyte> jumbalia: no but you have to use dpkg -i
[09:07] <pwnt-> jumbalia: why would you do that
[09:08] <MrGigabyte> jumbalia, can you post your repository listing?
[09:08] <Renderbox> I installed it like 6 times yesterday cause Im stupid
[09:08] <Jordan_U> jumbalia, What are you trying to do?
[09:08] <jumbalia> Mr: How do I do that
[09:08] <Guest15726> does it possible to send an email via terminal commands ?
[09:08] <jumbalia> Jordan: I jsut want ubuntu to access my cd as a repository like it did the first two installs
[09:08] <jumbalia> everytime i reinstall i have a different set of problems
[09:09] <pwnt-> Renderbox: you reinstalled gutsy 6 times??
[09:09] <Renderbox> No, Fiesty
[09:09] <scguy318> pwnt-: hmm?
[09:09] <Guest15726> !email
[09:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about email - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:09] <pwnt-> Renderbox: why.. if you do mistakes. you can fix them aswell
[09:09] <Pskol__> have a email manager in console mode???
[09:09] <pwnt-> scguy318: hi
[09:09] <Jordan_U> jumbalia, sudo apt-cdrom add
[09:09] <scguy318> pwnt-: oh, I didn't notice you were asking me a question
[09:09] <usr13> jumbalia, did you get the file yet?
[09:09] <jumbalia> usr13: no
[09:09] <scguy318> pwnt-: my hypothesis is that due to all the Gutsy updating, the servers are being slowed down
[09:09] <pwnt-> Guest15726: I've done that using "pine" before.. but that was ages ago. i dunno if there are newer programs for that.
[09:10] <Renderbox> pwnt-: Well I couldnt
[09:10] <scguy318> pwnt-: everyone is lagging tbh
[09:10] <pwnt-> Renderbox: what kind of mistakes have you done yesterday :)
[09:10] <Pskol__> exist email manager in console mode???
[09:10] <pwnt-> scguy318: yeah. I think so. but you said "it's gutsy" so i was suprised, and in the same time wondering if its only gutsy users that are lagging in the package updater.
[09:11] <Renderbox> pwnt-: Well lets see, I installed Ubuntu, and under Grub, my vista showed up twice. I wasn't sure which is the right one, so I selected the first one in the list. It went into the Sony recovery console and screwed up Grub
[09:11] <Renderbox> So I had to reinstall it
[09:11] <pwnt-> Renderbox: hehe:) ok
[09:11] <lap> got problem with feisty ubuntu security depot servers ?
[09:11] <lap> =)
[09:11] <Renderbox> The 2nd time I accidently chose the first one again, and messed it up once more. So I had to reinstall a 2nd time
[09:11] <lap> i've got 18 updates but i'm not able to download it
[09:11] <pwnt-> Renderbox: well, for me. I dont' learn unless i miss up with things and screw them up. then learn how to fix them, that how i learn
[09:12] <Renderbox> That was my stupidity
[09:12] <Guest15726> pwnt-: do u know "mutt" ?
[09:12] <jumbalia> Anyone know where the repository is on the feisty cd?
[09:12] <pwnt-> Guest15726: yea I heard of it. i think its pine.
[09:12] <pwnt-> Guest15726: Thats pine newer version maybe? google "pine email terminal"
[09:12] <lap> jumbalia: pool/main
[09:12] <pwnt-> Guest15726: pine was great by the way. you can check inbox + send emails from terminal.
[09:12] <Renderbox> Then the third time, one of my NTFS partitions were not showing up under "Computer" but I could access it from terminal. No idea how to do it in fstab, so I reinstalled again @_@
[09:13] <pwnt-> Renderbox: haha
[09:13] <Renderbox> My present installation isn't in workin condition either, so I might do it again
[09:13] <pwnt-> Renderbox: you can't keep doing that man. dont' keep re-installing whenever you get problems
[09:13] <pwnt-> Renderbox: just come here and ask. there should be a solution for every problem... or if i could say most of the problems ;] 
[09:13] <Renderbox> I dont know what else to do
[09:13] <Renderbox> All my windows just disappeared now
[09:14] <Renderbox> except Terminal
[09:14] <jumbalia> ok, found build-essentials on the cd
[09:14] <pwnt-> just come here & ask, or try google a bit.
[09:14] <pwnt-> Renderbox: you just got your ubuntu installed? and only terminal?
[09:14] <pwnt-> Renderbox: have you been in X before?
[09:14] <Renderbox> Yeah I did that, I was here earlier with the nick dissection
[09:14] <jumbalia> Screw it
[09:15] <Renderbox> No, I was running updates, and all of a sudden, the window disappeared, firefox window disappeared, and I'm left with just the terminal window open
[09:15] <jumbalia> I'm reinstalling again.  7th time is the charm, i just wonder what new problems will arise
[09:15] <pwnt-> Renderbox: try "startx"
[09:15] <usr13> jumbalia, why are you unable to get online?
[09:15] <jumbalia> i need ndiswrapper
[09:15] <jumbalia> ndiswrapper need build-essentials
[09:15] <pwnt-> Renderbox: did you hit any ctrl+alt+(any_key) accidently?
[09:15] <Renderbox> No i didnt
[09:15] <jumbalia> build-essentials need libc6-dev, which i cannot find
[09:15] <usr13> jumbalia, DO you not have access to wired network temporarily?
[09:16] <Pie-rate> the HBR1.com internet radio stations that come standard with rhythmbox on ubuntu keep disconnecting. if i hit play again, rhythmbox crashes and locks up. if i double-click a different radio station and then go back to the one i was on, it starts playing again.
[09:16] <jumbalia> on a second computer only
[09:16] <Pie-rate> is this a common problem?
[09:16] <jumbalia> See, my bigget frustration is this used to work
[09:16] <jumbalia> biggest*
[09:16] <Renderbox> Everything works fine on my other system since June. This laptop's giving me too many headaches
[09:16] <pwnt-> Renderbox: so it just turns off your X server and goes into a terminal full screen mode, right?
[09:16] <Renderbox> No, GNOME terminal i mean
[09:16] <jumbalia> It was no problem getting synaptic to recognize the cd
[09:16] <usr13> jumbalia, Just a sec.
[09:17] <Renderbox> firefox, update manager, gedit, etc all just disappeared
[09:17] <jumbalia> now it won't.  i think a reinstall is what is needed, because each time i reinstall I get a different set of problems, but the last ones are fixed
[09:17] <pwnt-> ahh, I'm right now in my desktop. Sometime i'll install ubuntu to my laptop aswell :-)
[09:17] <pwnt-> Renderbox: well thats odd.
[09:17] <pwnt-> Renderbox: try re-open them, what will happen if you try that?
[09:18] <Guest15726> i runing some bash script that each hour restart the connection to the net (dynamic IP) , someone have an idea how i can send to my email the current IP every hour (via termianl command into bash scripting) ?
[09:18] <Jordan_U> jumbalia, Have you tried the command I gave you?
[09:18] <Renderbox> Yeah I got them back. But its odd that all my windows closed automagically
[09:18] <jumbalia> which command was it? I tried a lot of suggestions
[09:18] <Jordan_U> jumbalia, sudo apt-cdrom add
[09:18] <pwnt-> Renderbox: there must be some shortcut you hit'd by mistake.
[09:18] <Renderbox> @_@
[09:19] <usr13> jumbalia, When I fire up synaptic, it just says "to install from a CD or DVD, put the medium in the drive"
[09:19] <jumbalia> Jordan: it says failed to mount cdrom
[09:19] <Alysum> is there a mirror for security.ubuntu.com source ? its not responding
[09:19] <jumbalia> usr13: and thats all i had to do before, now it is saying that there are no sources on the cd, which is why it is failing
[09:19] <Renderbox> Btw, how do I test my graphics card? When I installed, it gave me some error about starting X, so I had to reconfigure xserver-xorg and chose VESA. I got a GeForce 8600M GT
[09:19] <jumbalia> I know they are on there
[09:20] <axel> hi...
[09:20] <jumbalia> and when i try to manually install them, it goes in an endless loop of me needing other packages
[09:20] <Jordan_U> jumbalia, Does the CD mount when you put it in the drive?
[09:20] <jumbalia> jordan: yes
[09:20] <usr13> jumbalia, Well, just put the CD in and mount it and look around till you find the files you want.
[09:20] <eythian> OK, I've upgraded to gutsy, I've got a few problems. The first one is network-manager insists that my network configuration is 'manual', when it previously wasn't. What do I look at to try to fix it?
[09:21] <Alysum> well ?
[09:21] <Jordan_U> eythian, #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy
[09:21] <eythian> Jordan_U: ta
[09:21] <usr13> jumbalia, Why is it you cannot plug into a wired network, (just temporarily to do updates)?
[09:21] <jumbalia> I dont have a working ethernet port
[09:21] <max__> Hello, how can i install mp3 support on ubuntu? I got version 7.10 and its says i have to install w32codecs package from the Medibuntu repository. But where can i find those and how can i install them? Or is there a media player with mp3 support included
[09:22] <scguy318> !mp3 | max___
[09:22] <ubotu> max___: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:22] <Renderbox> max__: Try Amarok
[09:22] <usr13> jumbalia, or, borrow or somehow acquire a fully supported wireless NIC.
[09:22] <scguy318> max__: i personally use VLC
[09:22] <usr13> jumbalia, On the PC ?
[09:22] <usr13> jumbalia, or the router?
[09:22] <jumbalia> im missing libc6-dev from the cd.  I gueess il lreburn a new cd tomarrow.  I'm going to bed.  I apprecaite all the help, I really do, you guys have been great
[09:22] <jumbalia> on the pc usr
[09:22] <progek> I'm having trouble with running a game in wine. Following the wine DB I see this note for the game I am trying to run 'changed this through a new x11drv and it was fixed' but not sure how to change x11drv? The problem description is the same as mine,
[09:23] <jumbalia> I'll figure it out later
[09:23] <jumbalia> Goodngiht everyone
[09:23] <scguy318> progek: have you tried asking in #winehq?
[09:23] <jumbalia> (and sorry for crappy typing, this keyboard is broken)
[09:23] <Alysum> its **** SLOW
[09:23] <progek> scguy318 no but good idea :)
[09:23] <usr13> jumbalia, yea, try agin tomorrow.  C U later, and good luck.
[09:23] <scguy318> progek: g/l :)
[09:25] <Innomen> i have a dell gx260 and a dell altitude c610 with a dock, is there some way i can hook the dock to my pc and use my pcs mouse and kb and such? perhaps even sync operating systems? or could i mirrior my system drive on the fly to my laptop? (under ubuntu preffered of course)
[09:25] <Innomen> latitude *
[09:25] <lap> who
[09:25] <lap> the security depot server is going crazy
[09:25] <lap> they not get nice speed right now
[09:26] <scguy318> lap: indeed
[09:26] <lap> too much people downloading security update of openoffice righ now =)
[09:26] <ukh> yeah, security.ubuntu.com, incredibly slow, has been all morning.  I guess the oo.org updates are killing it
[09:26] <lap> right*
[09:27] <Cyber_Stalker> security update?
[09:27] <lap> yeah.
[09:27] <scguy318> lap: yep yep yep yep
[09:27] <scguy318> lap: i only got 50 KB/s, it dropped to 28.8 at times
[09:27] <Robban> Hello.. anyone who knows how to change the splash-screen after the loggin..? have change the one thats shows when ubuntu is starting.. but are wondering over the one after the loggin..? Any smartone that knows? =)
[09:28] <lap> 15 KB/s to 20 KB/s for me, heh.
[09:28] <apparle> Anybody has motherboard RC4107MA-RS2
[09:28] <lap> Robban: I disabled it, so I don't know.
[09:28] <scguy318> !anybody | apparle
[09:28] <ubotu> apparle: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:28] <lap> Robban: Too annoying.
[09:28] <Robban> how do you disable it..?
[09:29] <Robban> disable it sounds good to me... if I know how..
[09:30] <Cyber_Stalker> !bootscreen
[09:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootscreen - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:30] <apparle> no sound on RC4107MA-Rs2
[09:30] <Cyber_Stalker> !boot screen
[09:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about boot screen - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:30] <Robban> ok.. hm..
[09:30] <lap> gconf-editor,desktop,gnome-panel,splash screen. uncheck it.
[09:30] <lap> Robban:
[09:30] <hammer123> !adsl
[09:30] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[09:30] <Robban> ok.. thanks
[09:30] <Renderbox> How do I remove one or more mounted shares from my Desktop?
[09:30] <Robban> =D
[09:31] <lap> Robban: you get it ?
[09:31] <apparle> ubotu : help with OSS drivers
[09:31] <Robban> going to try now.. =)
[09:32] <lap> Robban: it's not gnome-panel, it's gnome-session, sorry.
[09:32] <apparle> Please help with sound : Please...............................
[09:32] <Robban> lap, ah.. ok..
[09:33] <lap> Robban: it terminal execute "gconf-editor" then, go to apps, gnome-session, and uncheck splash-screen
[09:33] <Robban> lap, ok.. =)
[09:33] <lap> s/itin
[09:33] <lap> s/it/in
[09:33] <lap> damn.
[09:33] <Renderbox> How do I remove one or more mounted shares from my Desktop?
[09:34] <Jordan_U> apparle, Why are  you using OSS instead of ALSA?
[09:34] <lap> Renderbox: You just want to remove the icons ?
[09:34] <Renderbox> Yes
[09:34] <LinuxJuggalo> !OSS | apparle
[09:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oss - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <lap> Renderbox: gconf-editor --> apps --> nautilus --> desktop
[09:35] <lap> uncheck the "volume visible"
[09:35] <TheSkorm> !windows
[09:35] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[09:35] <lap> Renderbox: execute gconf-editor from a terminal
[09:35] <apparle> because ALSA doesnot seem to work for me
[09:36] <apparle> anybody knows how to ge alsa working
[09:36] <Renderbox> lap: Thanks. I was looking somewhere else under gconf-editor earlier :P
[09:36] <lap> Renderbox: hehe
[09:36] <ePirate> hi
[09:36] <Woet> is there any way to change files on a debian server without mounting a ssh-server?
[09:36] <silviu> hi Pirate
[09:37] <ePirate> can anyone help me get online with ubuntu?
[09:37] <TheSkorm> Woet: just ssh in?
[09:37] <lap> Woet: with samba ?
[09:37] <ePirate> i'm having troubles
[09:37] <TheSkorm> lap: ewww
[09:37] <Woet> I mounted it with ssh, but it says i dont have permissions to save it :-/
[09:37] <rabbitweed> I have been trying to sort out linux all day. using my holidays well:p anyone know how to install graphics card drivers? I have some on cd but don't know what to do with them
[09:37] <lap> TheSkorm: what ? =)
[09:37] <TheSkorm> Woet: dont mount it, just use pico ro what not xD
[09:37] <Jordan_U> ePirate, How are you trying to connect? Wireless, wired, directly to modem?
[09:37] <rabbitweed> ePirate, does it recognise your network card?
[09:38] <ePirate> wireless
[09:38] <maxwell> spanish?
[09:38] <ePirate> and it does
[09:38] <ePirate> belkin f5d7001
[09:38] <Jordan_U> !sp | maxwell
[09:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:38] <ePirate> broadcom chipset
[09:38] <lap> TheSkorm: What's your "ewww" ? =P
[09:38] <ePirate> but it won't pick up my router
[09:38] <TheSkorm> lap: samaba
[09:38] <maxwell> Jordan_U:  yes, espaol!
[09:38] <Jordan_U> ePirate, Can you connect wired temporarily?
[09:38] <lap> TheSkorm: so ?
[09:38] <apparle> hey any body will tell me why Kmix stopped loading
[09:38] <Woet> Pico ro TheSkorm  ?
[09:38] <ePirate> no, my router's downstairs :(
[09:39] <TheSkorm> lap: I would chew into the 240v power cord connected to my server before using smaba linux to linux
[09:39] <Jordan_U> !spanish | maxwell
[09:39] <ubotu> maxwell: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:39] <TheSkorm> or tbh *nix to *nix
[09:39] <ePirate> don't have an ethernet cable that long lol
[09:39] <lap> TheSkorm: haha
[09:39] <HipotermiA> max__, espaol :)
[09:39] <lap> TheSkorm: nfs even ? =)
[09:39] <maxwell> thanks!
[09:39] <Jordan_U> ePirate, Do you have a USB drive or some way to transfer files?
[09:39] <TheSkorm> Never used nfs yet
[09:39] <lap> ok
[09:39] <TheSkorm> I just use ssh / scp
[09:39] <ePirate> yeah
[09:39] <rabbitweed> I have linux drivers for nvidea graphics card on cd, how do I install them to linux?
[09:39] <ePirate> i can use my psp
[09:40] <lap> TheSkorm: same here.
[09:40] <lap> TheSkorm: scp > ftp or sftp
[09:40] <lap> or what ever else shit
[09:40] <lap> hehe
[09:40] <Jordan_U> rabbitweed, Have you tried Ubuntu's Restricted Driver Manager?
[09:40] <TheSkorm> ftp is another eww
[09:40] <lap> indeed.
[09:40] <TheSkorm> I install ftpd to try medai portol
[09:40] <TheSkorm> nearly threw up
[09:41] <rabbitweed> Jordan_U, yes but it goes to the internet not my cd. my connection is crap right now and keeps timing out so I'm wondering if there's a way to do it 'manually'. have them on cd.
[09:41] <lap> rabbitweed: apt
[09:42] <Jordan_U> !aptoncd | rabbitweed
[09:42] <ubotu> rabbitweed: APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers
[09:42] <rabbitweed> apt?
[09:42] <lap> rabbitweed: mount your cdrom and apt-get it from your cd
[09:42] <rabbitweed> hmmm
[09:42] <ePirate> Jordan_U, you got any idea's?
[09:42] <lap> rabbitweed: you have ubuntu cd ?
[09:42] <ePirate> or anyone?
[09:42] <rabbitweed> I am very new, what is an apt?
[09:42] <Jordan_U> rabbitweed, You can also just grab the .deb from packages.ubuntu.com
[09:42] <lap> apt = debian package manager
[09:42] <Jordan_U> !apt | rabbitweed
[09:42] <ubotu> rabbitweed: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[09:42] <Blackgoth> apt is the package handler for debian and ubuntu
[09:43] <Jordan_U> ePirate, Do you have a USB drive or some way to transfer files?
[09:43] <ePirate> yes
[09:43] <TheSkorm> eys
[09:43] <rabbitweed> yes I do
[09:43] <rabbitweed> ah
[09:43] <rabbitweed> so how do I mount this apt?
[09:43] <Jordan_U> ePirate, Do you know the exact chipset? ( what is the xx in bcm43xx )
[09:43] <NuCobra> how do i uninstall Ubuntu with out reformating my HD
[09:43] <lap> rabbitweed: if you do not know how to edit your sources.list, try using "dselect" via a terminal and follow the steps.
[09:44] <rabbitweed> alright, thanks
[09:44] <lap> you do not mount apt, you mount your cd-rom =)
[09:44] <ePirate> Jordan_U, no i don't
[09:44] <Jordan_U> NuCobra, You can resize the current partition to make space for another
[09:44] <rabbitweed> my cd room is mounted, how do I use the apt though?
[09:44] <rabbitweed> (Am trying terminal)
[09:44] <lap> run "dselect" in terminal
[09:44] <TheSkorm> *rom
[09:44] <lap> and follow the step
[09:45] <lap> damn, an hour to download 70MB of files from security depot. :/
[09:45] <lap> with an 10mbit connection
[09:45] <Jordan_U> rabbitweed, If you have the nvidia-glx .deb on the CD then run "sudo dpkg -i /path/to/package.deb"
[09:45] <rabbitweed> thanks lap. how do I prove to it I am a "super user" though?
[09:45] <rabbitweed> ohh, I think I do
[09:45] <lap> rabbitweed: sudo
[09:46] <rabbitweed> *slaps forehead*
[09:46] <lap> sudo dselect
[09:46] <rabbitweed> of course
[09:46] <rabbitweed> :D
[09:46] <lap> heh
[09:46] <lap> =)
[09:46] <rabbitweed> it' my first day;)
[09:46] <lap> the beggining of a new life.
[09:46] <lap> :P
[09:46] <Jordan_U> ePirate, lspci | grep Broadcom
[09:46] <apparle> The sound from my microphone is reproduced from my speaker but recording is not possible?????????????
[09:46] <KevlarSoul> Tried to install GG and no video, I have a Nvidia 8800 GTX
[09:46] <ePirate> Jordan_U, what??
[09:47] <Jordan_U> ePirate, That will tell you more about what card you have ( run it in a terminal )
[09:47] <ePirate> ok
[09:47] <ePirate> i'd have to disconnect from here then
[09:47] <ePirate> brb
[09:47] <KevlarSoul> I boot to my CD and run install then it goes black....I wait for a few MINUTES...then nothing.
[09:47] <lap> ePirate: disconnect ? why ?
[09:47] <Jordan_U> ePirate, Why?
[09:47] <lap> Jordan_U: hehe =P
[09:47] <ePirate> cus i'm running vista now
[09:47] <lap> oh.
[09:48] <lap> don't corrupt you anymore.
[09:48] <hgjjjf> i did sudo aptitude purge kubuntu-desktop it removed alot but not all the files how i get rid of the rest?
[09:48] <lap> hgjjjf: sudo apt-get autoremove
[09:48] <hgjjjf> thnks lap
[09:48] <lap> sudo aptitude auto-remove
[09:48] <Jordan_U> ePirate, Do you know how to find out information about your wireless card in Vista? ( I have no idea )
[09:48] <lap> both work
[09:49] <ePirate> ermmm
[09:49] <ePirate> i can check
[09:50] <Jordan_U> ePirate, Again, I just need to know the chipset, which is going to look like "bcm43xx" where the x's are numbers
[09:52] <ePirate> Jordan_U, i've been checking the forums and people have got it working by using ndiswrapper drivers
[09:52] <ePirate> bcmwl5a from dell
[09:52] <lap> from broadcom
[09:52] <lap> =P
[09:53] <lap> dell is the seller.
[09:54] <ePirate> ok
[09:54] <lap> install the ndiswrapper drivers then
[09:54] <lap> if you'd read it.
[09:54] <ePirate> i just installed ubuntu yesterday
[09:54] <lap> oh ok
[09:54] <Jordan_U> ePirate, You may not need ndiswrapper, depending on which chipset it is
[09:54] <ePirate> i have no clue about linux
[09:54] <Innomen> ePirate: dont give up
[09:55] <ePirate> :(
[09:55] <ePirate> kk
[09:55] <Woet> how do you untar via terminal?
[09:55] <lap> ndiswrapper-utils and wireless-tools
[09:55] <lap> Woet: tar -xf
[09:55] <lap> install them
[09:55] <Jordan_U> lap, Let's find out what chipset he has first
[09:56] <Woet> and where should the parameters be for the tar file, and where to extract?
[09:56] <Innomen> as far as the average user goes, this is the ground floor, in my opinion ubuntu is just now starting to be a viable replacement option for xp, in terms of time invested and skill required. from here on in it will only get easier. Do you have a problem right now? I'm on day 5 myself i might be able to help *shrugs*
[09:56] <Woet> i have backup.tar and it needs to go to /home/backup
[09:56] <LinuxJuggalo> Woet: tar -xvf filename.tar
[09:56] <Robban> how do I start the program SOX to convert .mp3 sounds to .wav? for systemsounds... the program should be installed but I cant find it..!? =/
[09:56] <Woet> and target LinuxJuggalo  ?
[09:56] <Woet> i need it to /home/backup
[09:56] <ePirate> Jordan_U, does this help: http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/?go=devices
[09:57] <Jordan_U> ePirate, No, that is the page that will tell you if you need ndiswrapper or not
[09:57] <lap> Woet: tar -xfc /home/baclup
[09:57] <Jordan_U> ePirate, But you need to know the chipset first
[09:57] <ePirate> oh
[09:57] <lap> s/baclup/backup
[09:57] <loftroffle> Quick question: in my /usr/bin I have php-cgi but no generic php binary, and apt-get install php-cli says it can't install it, what do I need to do so I can have a proper /usr/bin/php?
[09:57] <TheSkorm> !apt-get moo
[09:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-get moo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:57] <ePirate> Jordan_U, bcm4306
[09:58] <danielax> TheSkorm: what's not self-explanatory about apt-get moo!?! :P
[09:58] <Jordan_U> ePirate, Yay, you get native drivers :)
[09:58] <lap> Woet: tar -xfC /home/baclup
[09:58] <lap> sorry
[09:58] <ePirate> Jordan_U, what does that mean lol
[09:58] <TheSkorm> danielax: i was looking for the other ones, apt -v moo ect
[09:59] <Jordan_U> ePirate, That means that I don't like ndiswrapper ( which uses windows drivers ) and you don't need to use it :)
[09:59] <CyberMad> how to share printer via samba? (not cups)
[09:59] <ePirate> Jordan_U, cool
[09:59] <Renderbox> hmm
[09:59] <ePirate> so how do i get connected?
[10:00] <Jordan_U> ePirate, You just need some files that broadcom won't allow Ubuntu to distribute so it can work
[10:00] <Jordan_U> ePirate, The actual drivers are already installed :)
[10:00] <Robban> Convert .mp3 files to .wav files...? any good program for this that you like..?
[10:00] <Jordan_U> ePirate, download this and unzip it to your desktop trogdoor.googlepages.com/firmware.zip
[10:01] <Renderbox> Is it better to install without ndiswrapper?
[10:01] <ePirate> cool!
[10:01] <ePirate> Jordan_U, cool, do you know where the files are?
[10:01] <peacepipejv> wine + other apps keep failing. Any ideas on a fix?
[10:01] <Innomen> Robban: audacity?
[10:01] <CyberMad> i already tried share it via samba, my windows can add the printer.. but can not print
[10:01] <CyberMad> do you know any good information or tutorial about sharing printer via samba?
[10:01] <Innomen> or are you wanting to do tons and tons of them at once
[10:01] <peacepipejv> failing during package dnld
[10:01] <ePirate> Jordan_U thanks
[10:01] <Robban> Innomen: Ok.. I try that.. Thanks..! =)
[10:02] <peacepipejv> both from package amnager and synaptic
[10:02] <Robban> me..?
[10:02] <cafuego> danielax: or aptitude install moo for that matter
[10:02] <Innomen> np, its also a darn good sound editor
[10:02] <ePirate> Jordan_U, what do i do with all of them?
[10:02] <Innomen> Robban: yes, are you looking to do batch conversion?
[10:02] <Jordan_U> ePirate, Once you have done that, you need to run "sudo cp Desktop/firmware/*.fw /lib/firmware"
[10:02] <cafuego> oh oops no :-)
[10:02] <Robban> ok.. hm.. =/
[10:02] <Robban> batch conversion.. hm..
[10:02] <Jordan_U> ePirate, Which just copies them to the folder /lib/firmware
[10:02] <ePirate> kk thanks
[10:03] <Innomen> Robban: batch = sevral all at once
[10:03] <ePirate> Jordan_U, I'll try it when I get back from work :)
[10:03] <Robban> Ok.. good to know.!! =) the main purpuse were to change so my downloaded systemsounds so I could use them....
[10:03] <Innomen> Robban: if you have just a few, audacity will be a good option, but i'm not sure its a good options if you have say 100 of them to convert, unless you're patient :)
[10:03] <rabbitweed> man, the chicks better be really impressed with my working linux installation when I'm done or I'm going to be upset>:(
[10:04] <Robban> no.. maybe 10-20...
[10:04] <Innomen> Robban: ahhh, well that shouldent be too much of a pain, plus audacity is a really good app to have anyway
[10:04] <lap> ffmpeg convert audio file no ?
[10:04] <Innomen> Robban: in my opinion, anyway
[10:04] <Robban> ok.. =)
[10:04] <Ryuho-tablet> hello
[10:04] <lap> if yes, it's much way better than anything else.
[10:04] <Robban> sudo apt-get install audacity?
[10:05] <Ryuho-tablet> should i be worried that my netstat process is turning into a zombi 100% of the time i run it?
[10:05] <Innomen> Robban: not sure
[10:05] <Innomen> lap: never heard of it, i go read now
[10:05] <Robban> ok.. I try.. =) Thaks!
[10:05] <Innomen> lap: nothing batch converts voc files
[10:05] <Jordan_U> Ryuho-tablet, It certainly doesn't sound like a good sign
[10:05] <Robban> *Thanks
[10:05] <peacepipejv> Hey, everytime I update repositories, wine fails to donld. Any help?
[10:05] <peacepipejv> +other packages
[10:05] <Woet> whats the terminal command to copy 1 dir to another?
[10:06] <Innomen> lap: except perl audio, but its command line and if i was willing to do that much work i'd just use lame app the recorder came with
[10:06] <rabbitweed> what type of file is a .run?
[10:06] <Jordan_U> Ryuho-tablet, Won't even die from a SIGKILL ( kill -9 ) ?
[10:06] <Innomen> Robban: let us know how it works out please :)
[10:06] <Ryuho-tablet> no i killed the parent process (firefox bin) and it died
[10:06] <Ryuho-tablet> but when i try to go to network settings
[10:06] <Robban> yes.. I will..! =)
[10:06] <lap> Innomen: ok
[10:06] <Jordan_U> rabbitweed, A file that you probably shouldn't run because you should install applications with the package manager instead :)
[10:06] <lap> bb
[10:07] <Ryuho-tablet> under admin > networks
[10:07] <Ryuho-tablet> it freezes
[10:07] <Jordan_U> Ryuho-tablet, So it's not really a zombie process
[10:07] <rabbitweed> jordan_U I had no luck getting the package manager to use my cd
[10:07] <deren> hello
[10:07] <Ryuho-tablet> well it was, and now it's just freezing
[10:07] <rabbitweed> whoops
[10:08] <Ryuho-tablet> i guess i should update / restart, since i found a new update
[10:08] <deren> I have some questions about a webcam device
[10:09] <deren> the manufacturer firm gave me a .ko file
[10:09] <deren> but I don't know how can I use this file.
[10:09] <rya1> u can use insmod driver.ko to inset it into kernel
[10:10] <uahuha> hi4all, my problems regards touchpad (acer aspire 5710) and this is the error: psmouse.c: GlidePoint at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte ... anyone can help me?
[10:10] <rya1> have to make sure the kernel versions matches the one your running
[10:10] <rya1> or make sure its close
[10:10] <deren> my kernel ver is 2.6.20
[10:11] <deren> the file is for 2.6.17
[10:11] <rya1> are there several .ko files ?
[10:11] <rya1> hummm
[10:11] <rya1> just test it i guess
[10:11] <deren> I read on a forum that
[10:11] <deren> put that file
[10:11] <BoSJo> Hi all. Often when i insert my SD card to my reader, nothing happens. Can i manually mount it or do something to get the system to see the SD card?
[10:11] <rya1> or the webcam might already be supported in the kernel
[10:11] <rya1> probably not, never used webcams with linux
[10:11] <rya1> never needed to
[10:12] <deren> /lib/modules/kernel/misc
[10:12] <deren> I put but, that doesn't work
[10:12] <Ed_22> how can i encrypt a file or dir?
[10:12] <deren> it is a usb device.
[10:13] <deren> I can see it with lsusb command
[10:13] <rya1> deren: yeah you gotta also add an entry to the modprobe file, i havent done this for a while, not sure exactly
[10:13] <rya1> but just test it with insmod first
[10:13] <deren> ok. I am triyng..
[10:13] <rya1> "insmod /path/to/driver.ko"
[10:14] <lap> well
[10:14] <lap> gnight anybody
[10:14] <lap> see tomorrow
[10:14] <lap> see ya*
[10:14] <Gunirus> morning lap
[10:15] <lap> heh.
[10:15] <deren> I got this error, invalid module format
[10:15] <rya1> hummm
[10:16] <deren> Bus 003 Device 002: ID 0ac8:303b Z-Star Microelectronics Corp. ZC0303 WebCam
[10:16] <rya1> type in "dmesg"
[10:16] <deren> this is lsusb output
[10:16] <rya1> whats at the end of dmesg ?
[10:16] <deren> usbvm3xx: disagrees about version of symbol struct_module
[10:18] <peacepipejv> Quick question. Once I add channels through package manager is it necessary to run them again? And how often should I do a reload through synaptic
[10:19] <riotkittie> reload every time you change your repos. though it should prompt.
[10:19] <powerserve> newbie here why is it that when i upgraded feisty for 64bit to gutsy the distribution upgrade just hanged
[10:19] <greedo> hi
[10:19] <greedo> how to know the version of a package from command line ?
[10:19] <rabbitweed> I'm at terminal, this is my ls "FreeBSD_x86                         NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-8756-pkg2.run
[10:19] <rabbitweed> NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8756-pkg1.run"
[10:19] <rabbitweed> any idea how install the driver from here?
[10:19] <greedo> i package i did not install yet
[10:19] <peacepipejv> repos get updated pretty often?
[10:19] <Jordan_U> powerserve, Because Gutsy isn't finished yet
[10:19] <riotkittie> greedo: apt-cache show or apt-cache policy <pkg>
[10:19] <powerserve> ahh i see...
[10:19] <powerserve> thanks!
[10:19] <danielax> the program will often tell you  - try something like program -v or program --version
[10:20] <powerserve> lol
[10:20] <deren> have any idea?
[10:20] <greedo> thx riotkittie
[10:20] <Jordan_U> rabbitweed, Grab the nvidia-glx package from packages.ubuntu.com, or install it manually if you are OK with it breaking on kernel updates
[10:21] <powerserve> thanks so much sir jordan for always being here...
[10:21] <powerserve> gtg
[10:21] <rabbitweed> Jordan_U my internet is too slow. I am suprised I haven't timed out of IRC:(
[10:21] <rya1> deren: is that the latest driver avaliable ?
[10:22] <Jordan_U> rabbitweed, How did you get the .run file?
[10:22] <deren> yes, but if I require, they can probably send for 2.6.20 kernel.
[10:22] <rabbitweed> it's on my motherboard cd under linuxdrivers
[10:23] <deren> but also I tried it with 2.6.17
[10:23] <deren> I mean befor updating my kernel.
[10:24] <deren> programs, for ex. camaroma, looking for video0 device.
[10:24] <rya1> ur not running like a 64bit kernel i take it ?
[10:24] <deren> and couldn't find
[10:24] <Jordan_U> rabbitweed, You will need to download the headers and gcc to install the manual way anyway, I would just try grabbing the .deb, use wget -c and you can continue it if you loose the connection
[10:24] <Jordan_U> rabbitweed, http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/x11/nvidia-glx
[10:25] <deren> I am not running like 64 bit.
[10:25] <rabbitweed> I'll give it another try jordan
[10:26] <deren> if I can get the source code, can I make my own .ko file and run it? is it difficult work?
[10:26] <rya1> that would be the best option
[10:27] <rya1> not too much work, just need the source, kernel headers and gcc + automake
[10:27] <Renderbox> Has anyone here tried WiFix? http://sourceforge.net/projects/wifix/
[10:28] <deren> do I have to change .ko file after every kernel update?
[10:28] <rya1> unfortunately
[10:29] <Jordan_U> rabbitweed, Once you get it downloaded / installed use System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manger to enable it
[10:29] <rya1> youll need to recompile it for each kernel update
[10:29] <deren> hmm.
[10:29] <deren> can the kernel developers insert this module to new kernel versions?
[10:30] <Jordan_U> deren, What module?
[10:30] <CyberMad> is there gui software to share printer over samba? i confuse share printer with command line (smb.conf)
[10:31] <Renderbox> I need help installing my WiFi card
[10:31] <rya1> well they could, but depends on the licence of the source and other stuff, i wouldnt see it happening any time very soon
[10:31] <deren> I can get the source code.
[10:31] <Jordan_U> rya1, What module is this?
[10:31] <rya1> for a webcam
[10:32] <Jordan_U> rya1, But what is the module?
[10:32] <rya1> what camera is it and where is the source avaliable ?
[10:32] <deren> usbvm3xx2.6.17.ko
[10:33] <rya1> where is the source avaliable deren ?
[10:33] <deren> we are a computer firm in turkey. we sell webcam, etc.
[10:33] <Jordan_U> deren, That sounds like usbvideo, is it really a different module?
[10:34] <deren> our pruducts are produced in chine.
[10:34] <deren> we can require the source code from them.
[10:34] <peacepipejv> Why would I not be able to dnld any repository indexes
[10:35] <deren> we want to support linux for our products.
[10:35] <iapitus> i have a weird issue with a feisty cum gutsy server xen install -- the output of "ip route show" seems to have changed, and now the xen network-bridge script doesn't work
[10:36] <rabbitweed> how do I exit an 'x server' ?
[10:36] <rabbitweed>  ERROR: You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before
[10:36] <rabbitweed>          installing.
[10:36] <iapitus> wondered if anyone in here had come across this issue previously before i spent a bunch of time fixing/troubleshooting
[10:36] <iapitus> rabbitweed, log out and log back in
[10:36] <rya1> deren: best bet it to get it into the kernel source tree
[10:36] <rya1> but i really have no idea about the process of that
[10:36] <iapitus> rabbitweed, rather, probably better to just ctrl-alt-f1 -- do what you need to do and then ctrl-alt-f7 back to X
[10:36] <rabbitweed> terminal?
[10:37] <Jordan_U> rabbitweed, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:37] <deren> can we discuss again, after I get the source codes?
[10:37] <rya1> either that, or youll need to build modules for common linux distros and then try to get the distros to include them in their repos
[10:37] <Jordan_U> rabbitweed, "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start" to start X again
[10:37] <neopsyche> Hi when installing realplayer .bin through commandline i selected some kind of global setting under the pathway /usr ??? was this correct?  Its a fresh feisty install and i just typed what the example was.... however when using realplayer fast forward doesnt work properly and realplayer crashes about every 4 minutes.
[10:39] <deren> ok, but I need help to do them.
[10:40] <Jordan_U> deren, Best way to ensure Linux support by default ( so any distro would have it ) is to release the *specifications* for the hardware, while open source drivers are better than nothing, open specifications will mean that others can contribute to the drivers and update them as the kernel changes
[10:40] <GNine> i need a command line to call the window manager
[10:41] <GNine> no borders or window buttons here
[10:41] <CyberMad> i tried access http://localhost:631/admin, but what is the username and password?
[10:41] <msa> Jordan_U, wouldn't best combination be: release specification *and* sample implementation in source :-)
[10:41] <Jordan_U> deren, There was a guy offering to help any company that wanted Linux support for their drivers, probably a good person to talk to to figure out how to go about getting your drivers into the kernel
[10:42] <deren> so good, how can I get contact?
[10:42] <Jordan_U> deren, http://www.kroah.com/log/2007/01/29/#free_drivers
[10:43] <uahuha> hi4all, my problems regards touchpad (acer aspire 5710) and this is the error: psmouse.c: GlidePoint at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte ... anyone can help me?
[10:44] <neopsyche>  configure system-wide symbolic links? [Y/n]  whats that all about?
[10:44] <deren> thank you all, for help
[10:44] <ikonia> neopsyche is that a real player install ?
[10:45] <Jordan_U> deren, np, thank you and your company for supporting Linux :)
[10:45] <iapitus> GNine, try "metacity"
[10:45] <rabbitweed> I am trying to run an application in terminal but it tells me it needs to be run as root. how do I achieve that?
[10:45] <deren> :)
[10:45] <ikonia> rabbitweed sudo
[10:45] <rabbitweed> I tried that
[10:45] <Jordan_U> !sudo | rabbitweed
[10:45] <ubotu> rabbitweed: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:46] <ikonia> rabbitweed what are you trying to run and how
[10:46] <GNine> how do i call metacity, iapitus
[10:46] <ikonia> GNine its already installted as part of the gnome desktop on ubuntu
[10:46] <Jordan_U> GNine, metacity --replace
[10:46] <ikonia> GNine it startups up with x
[10:46] <rabbitweed> ikonia, a .run file for a display driver
[10:47] <ikonia> rabbitweed a.) why are you not using the nvidia packaged driver b.) you need to make it executable with chmod
[10:47] <iapitus> -sobs- it appears that this xen bug is from last year
[10:47] <rabbitweed> because my internet times out beforei can download it. and hmm ok.
[10:48] <ikonia> rabbitweed thats the weakest excuse I've ever heard
[10:48] <GNine> did have metacity, installing now.. Jordan_U
[10:48] <neopsyche> ?
[10:48] <iapitus> GNine, are you using ubuntu or kubuntu or other?
[10:48] <GNine> didn't .. that is
[10:48] <ikonia> rabbitweed you need to use the nvidia-glx package rather than the nvdia .run file from nvidia.com
[10:48] <GNine> xubuntu
[10:48] <iapitus> metacity is the default WM for gnome
[10:48] <iapitus> not for xfce or kde etc
[10:49] <GNine> well.. it might help my situation
[10:50] <Renderbox> nvidia-glx will work for all GeForce cards?
[10:50] <rabbitweed> yeah I would but my connection times out before I can download it. not much I can do then?
[10:50] <ikonia> Renderbox which card do you have
[10:50] <Renderbox> ikonia: GeForce 8600M GT
[10:50] <rabbitweed> I already have the driver on cd
[10:50] <rabbitweed> and now it's in my home directory
[10:50] <ikonia> rabbitweed your connection times out ?  surly thats a more serious problem
[10:50] <Tomcat_`> Renderbox: Won't work for <GF2 or something.
[10:50] <ikonia> Renderbox I think nvidia-glx is ok on the 8600
[10:50] <Tomcat_`> Renderbox: Or rather... <GF4... not sure. :)
[10:50] <Renderbox> Tomcat_`: GF2?
[10:51] <rabbitweed> ikonia it's my isp:(
[10:51] <ikonia> Tomcat_ gf4 - you where right first time
[10:51] <neopsyche> whats better for ubuntu helix player or real player?
[10:51] <ikonia> rabbitweed sort that out then
[10:51] <Tomcat_`> Renderbox: Older GeForce cards.
[10:51] <Renderbox> Okay, its the mobile version.. for laptops. It should work fine right?
[10:51] <ikonia> Renderbox think so yes
[10:51] <Tomcat_`> Renderbox: Yes.
[10:51] <Renderbox> Cool
[10:51] <ikonia> Renderbox 8X series is %50/%50 in fiesity
[10:51] <ikonia> fesity
[10:51] <Renderbox> :o
[10:52] <ikonia> gusty's drivers are updated so should be much more compatible
[10:52] <Renderbox> So should I try it anyway, or stick with the current driver?
[10:52] <ikonia> Renderbox does your current driver work (which one are you using ?)
[10:53] <Renderbox> Well yeah it works.. I couldn't get into the LiveCD normally.. I had to reconfigure xserver-xorg, and choose VESA and all default options.. Thats what I have now
[10:53] <ikonia> Renderbox ahhh vesa is weak, I suggest trying the nvidia-glx package
[10:53] <ikonia> Renderbox you'll find the nvidia drivers make a big difference to your laptops performance graphically
[10:54] <Renderbox> ikonia: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx ?
[10:54] <Jordan_U> Renderbox, Try System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manager
[10:54] <Renderbox> okay
[10:54] <ikonia> Renderbox exactly, then a reconfigure to use the nvidia (not nv) driver
[10:54] <^LadyVaMpIrKa^> omega.bg
[10:54] <Renderbox> Jordan_U: It says my hardware does not require any restricted drivers.
[10:54] <The_bob> or use envy
[10:55] <ikonia> The_bob don't recommend envy -
[10:55] <Jordan_U> Renderbox, I think that means that the nvidia-glx package won't work with your card
[10:55] <amadeux> What's with all the updates today???
[10:55] <The_bob> weel, i had no problems with envy
[10:55] <Jordan_U> Renderbox, You can get the newest driver manually, but you will have to re-install it on kernel upgrades
[10:55] <ikonia> !worksforme >the_bob
[10:55] <ikonia> amadeux packages are being updated, nothing more
[10:56] <amadeux> ok. just a lot on one go
[10:56] <amadeux> no special occasion?
[10:56] <Renderbox> Jordan_U: how do i do that.. re-install it on kernel
[10:56] <amadeux> When will gutsy be released?
[10:56] <Jordan_U> Renderbox, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual
[10:56] <ikonia> amadeux 18/10/07 currntly
[10:56] <amadeux> cool
[10:56] <Jordan_U> !gutsy | amadeux
[10:56] <ubotu> amadeux: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[10:57] <Renderbox> Jordan_U: It says its advised that xorg works with nv drivers... It didnt work with nv for me
[10:57] <ikonia> Renderbox nv is open source nvidia - not as strong as the nvidia driver
[10:57] <peacepipejv> should I get rid of automatix b4 upgrading to edgy
[10:58] <ikonia> peacepipejv you should not be using automatix at all. IT makes your system unsupportable for the community
[10:58] <ikonia> !automatix >peacepipejv
[10:58] <Renderbox> ikonia: I don't know what to do at this point. Jordan_U says the nVidia driver won't work on my card..
[10:58] <jussi01> !automatix | peacepipejv
[10:58] <ubotu> peacepipejv: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[10:58] <ikonia> Renderbox that is possible, let me check what cards are support
[10:58] <ikonia> !nvidia >ikonia
[10:58] <amadeux> When is Ubuntu Horny Horse released?
[10:58] <Renderbox> !nvidia > Renderbox
[10:58] <Jordan_U> Renderbox, ikonia I said that the nvidia-glx package would not work with your card
[10:58] <ikonia>  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:59] <ikonia> oops
[10:59] <ikonia> sorry
[10:59] <ikonia> !offtopic >amadeux
[10:59] <peacepipejv> what about any packages installed through automatix, should I get rid of them?
[10:59] <ikonia> Jordan_U its an 8600 mobile, just checking if thats supported
[10:59] <Jordan_U> amadeux, Hardy Heron will come 6 months after Gutsy.
[10:59] <radarredex> hi
[10:59] <mega> alvia
[10:59] <ikonia> peacepipejv using automatix - if you want support you should do a clean install
[10:59] <peacepipejv> i dont want to be unspported
[11:00] <peacepipejv> damn,
[11:00] <peacepipejv> cant I just get rid of it?
[11:00] <Jordan_U> peacepipejv, Most people won't refuse to support you, but you may get some problems caused by Automatix that we might not be able to fix
[11:00] <ikonia> peacepipejv no
[11:00] <ikonia> peacepipejv automatix is not supported in this channel
[11:01] <ikonia> peacepipejv: nor is is supported on the ubuntu forums. Automatix does have its own support community which may be happy to help/suport you
[11:01] <Jordan_U> peacepipejv, Honestly, as bad as Automatix is ( and it is bad ) I don't think it warrents a re-install unless ( or until ) you are having problems
[11:01] <ikonia> oopsJordan_U it does if he wants support
[11:01] <Chewi_ffm> hi, does anybody know, how gusty (with compiz fusion) handle ati ? does it start a xgl-server right away ? or how does it behave ?
[11:01] <ikonia> Renderbox Jordan_U appears correct, the 8600 is not support in ubuntu 7.04 - but should be in 7.10
[11:02] <Renderbox> When is 7.10 expected to be released?
[11:02] <overclucker> too soon
[11:02] <Jordan_U> Chewi_ffm, Does not enable Compiz for fglrx users
[11:02] <overclucker> not soon enough
[11:02] <ikonia> Chewi_ffm gusty support is in #ubuntu+1
[11:02] <kst> how big is an average ubuntu install that can do the normal desktop user stuff like burning CDs, office, audio players, video players etc.? mine's like 4.3gig already so I'm thinking of doing a format for gutsy... only got 700mb free disk space on that partition anyway.. or will it work?
[11:02] <Renderbox> bah I regret buying this laptop now
[11:02] <ikonia> kst between 800 meg and 1.2 gig
[11:03] <ikonia> Renderbox hang on until 18th october and you should be fine
[11:03] <Jordan_U> Renderbox, Again, you can get it to work by installing the nvidia.com drivers
[11:03] <kst> ikonia uhm ok, but why's mine so big then?
[11:03] <lunz> i am back...
[11:03] <ikonia> Renderbox and jordan is correct, the nvidia.com drivers should work
[11:03] <ikonia> kst you've installed more stuff ?
[11:03] <kst> i tried to put everything in /home when possible which is on a differentpartition
[11:03] <overclucker> kst: that is when you're running it
[11:03] <Jordan_U> Renderbox, It's just that you may have a little work to do when you have a kernel update
[11:03] <kst> overclucker ?
[11:03] <Jordan_U> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual
[11:03] <ikonia> kst you can't put the ubuntu install in /home
[11:04] <overclucker> kst: try looking at it from a live cd
[11:04] <kst> no ikonia but stuff that i install afterwards :)
[11:04] <uahuha> how can i know the touchpad hardware model?
[11:04] <lunz> ikonia,thanks for the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:04] <ikonia> kst so how is that anythign to do with ubuntu
[11:04] <kst> will do overclucker, thx
[11:04] <ikonia> lunz welcome
[11:04] <kst> ikonia well because i didnt install that much stuff, but still my install got 4.3gig in size..?
[11:04] <ikonia> kst out of the box install was 4.3 gig ?
[11:04] <kst> no
[11:05] <Jordan_U> kst, Try clearing out your package cache
[11:05] <kst> but somehow it managed to become 4.3gig :) although i dont think i installed that much stuff, especially not in the / but only in /home
[11:05] <ikonia> kst right, so as I said, out of the box is 800 - 1.3 gig in size, what you add after that is up to you
[11:05] <FliptBit> where else can you change power management in ubuntu?  my screen still goes black after about 5 to 10 min ???
[11:05] <ikonia> kst ubuntu doesn't install stuff in /home
[11:05] <Jordan_U> kst, sudo apt-get clean
[11:05] <cafuego> FliptBit: disable the screensaver
[11:05] <iapitus> huh .. that was simple enough -- anyone in here think of a reason to use "ip route list" over "netstat -arn"?
[11:05] <kst> ikonia one more time: when i manually added stuff i needed, i tried to put it into the /home path which is on a different partition...............
[11:06] <ikonia> Jordan_U thatss handy flag to know
[11:06] <magnetron> FliptBit: check the screensaver settings
[11:06] <Renderbox> Jordan_U: Okay, I've bookmarked that link and will try it today. I need to install my WiFi card too, but the instructions given on the forum requires you to download a different kernel. Any other way I could do it?
[11:06] <kst> that doesnt apply for packets from apt-get obviously, but other programs from 3rd party sources
[11:06] <Jordan_U> Renderbox, What wifi card?
[11:06] <ikonia> kst yes, so everything else you installed through ubuntu or using temport file systems will go into /
[11:06] <FliptBit>  -- yeah I checked that --- and still goes dark.  very frustrating when watching a movie
[11:06] <overclucker> kst: df -h from console
[11:07] <kst> overclucker and then? that doesnt tell me anything new, sys monitor says the same already :)
[11:07] <Renderbox> Jordan_U: Intel Pro 6950 I think.. I forgot the model #, I have to boot into Windows to check
[11:07] <Jordan_U> Renderbox, Are you on Ubuntu on that box now?
[11:07] <Renderbox> Jordan_U: Yes
[11:07] <Jordan_U> Renderbox, System -> Preferences -> Hardware Information
[11:07] <overclucker> kst: things like /proc/kcore get added to the size
[11:08] <hongtzai> while I'm using Deluge to download 1 of 2 torrents is stable, the other one's peers usually back to zero. How can I to solve this problem?
[11:08] <overclucker> kst: du -h /proc/kcore
[11:08] <ikonia> overclucker why would he do that ?
[11:09] <Pie-rate> is there any easy way to add some kind of button in nautilus that will run gnome-terminal with --working-directory set for whatever dir nautilus is in?
[11:09] <overclucker> oh, w8 wrong one, lol
[11:10] <radarredex> hi all
[11:10] <hongtzai> Hello everyone.While I'm using Deluge to download some files. 1 of 2 torrents is stable, the other's peers usually back to zero. How can I to solve this problem?
[11:10] <Renderbox> Jordan_U: I don't see a wireless device listed there
[11:10] <ikonia> hongtzai contact the peers ?
[11:10] <overclucker> kst: don't listen to me anymore, lol
[11:11] <hongtzai> yes
[11:11] <hongtzai> like this 15(15) -> 0(0)
[11:11] <kRush> playing audio ogg/mp3/file/stream I get ~2% CPU usage on vlc (oss/alsa), mplayer (oss) - but ~15-20%CPU on rhythmbox, mplayer (alsa), totem ... card is an audigy2zs and I'm out of ideas, anyone helping me figuring this one out would be highly appreciated
[11:11] <peacepipejv> best image burner from experience to burn Feisty? Anyone? Using dapper
[11:11] <peacepipejv> gonna do a fresh install
[11:11] <ikonia> peacepipejv just right click on the image and select burn
[11:12] <iapitus> peacepipejv, man - nautilus-burner is cool and all - but i don't think k3b can be beaten for FOSS cd burning
[11:12] <xy77> I'm looking for a tool that allows me to add lyrics to mp3s and ogg files. I found only windows or mac software on the web. Does anyone know of a linux software for this task?
[11:13] <ikonia> xy77 not aware of anything
[11:13] <peacepipejv> darn, just remembered, gotta take tower apart an reconnect burner, gonna be a long night.
[11:13] <Jordan_U> Renderbox, Strange, I've got to leave, If you can wait 13 days it will probably work with Gutsy :)
[11:14] <Renderbox> :[
[11:16] <it-linux> anything I can help?
[11:16] <ikonia> it-linux what ?
[11:16] <Renderbox> I need help installing my WiFi card
[11:16] <it-linux> just want to help others, is there any problem here to share?
[11:17] <it-linux> Renderbox | what tpye do you have?
[11:18] <Crush`> is there a way to return the output of only one processor when doing cat /proc/cpuinfo?
[11:18] <Renderbox> it-linux: Intel Pro 6945 AGN (I THINK thats the number... I only know how to check it in Windows)
[11:18] <ikonia> Crush no
[11:18] <ybotk> Anybody know much about dvd recorders?
[11:18] <ikonia> ybotk depends on the question
[11:19] <magnetron> !ask | ybotk
[11:19] <Wespe> hi, ist it possible to connect to a local UNIX-Socket created in domain AF_UNIX with telnet? if so: how?
[11:19] <ubotu> ybotk: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:19] <it-linux> Renderbox: is it PCI? USB? or onboard?
[11:19] <ikonia> Wespe can you expand on that a little
[11:19] <ybotk> ubotu, I didn't ask to ask a question. I asked if anyone was knew much about dvd recorders.
[11:19] <Renderbox> it-linux: on board I guess. Its a laptop
[11:19] <overclucker> bad bot, ubotu
[11:20] <overclucker> sheesh
[11:20] <ybotk> ikonia, Okay. I made a dvd tonight on a live camera audio/video dvd recorder.  It will play on this system. However, I forgot to finalize the dvd.  Can I simply take the dvd back to the unit that made the dvd in the first place, and then finalize it?
[11:20] <it-linux> have you check on hardware information in your ubuntu? Is it detected?
[11:20] <ikonia> ybotk this is ubuntu support
[11:20] <Wespe> ikonia, i created a socket with socket(AF_UNIX, SOCK_STREAM, 0), bind() etc. now I want to test if my app works and i want to connect to the local socket (/tmp/mysock) with telnet
[11:20] <ybotk> ybotk, Why do you think I asked if anyone knew anything about dvd recorders, sheesh.
[11:20] <overclucker> is there a multimedia channel
[11:21] <overclucker> ?
[11:21] <ikonia> Wespe ahhh ok, no you don't connect to a socket "file" you connect to a process that parses through the socket file
[11:21] <ikonia> ybotk you may have had compatability questions
[11:21] <Renderbox> it-linux: I checked but I don't know which one is it. I tried lspci, and there's an "unknown device" by Intel Corporation, under Network controller
[11:21] <it-linux> overclucker | what kind do you need?
[11:22] <erUSUL> Wespe: use socat as intermediate (do not ask me how exactly all i know is that it has that capability ;))
[11:22] <Renderbox> it-linux: With my previous installation yesterday, I typed some command that I got from a forum, and it downloaded something from sourceforge, and my card was listed correctly after that...
[11:22] <ybotk> ikonia, I see.
[11:22] <ikonia> erUSUL I've never heard of that, good find
[11:22] <ybotk> ikonia, Loads of intelligent people in this channel though...just trying my luck in here.
[11:22] <ybotk> :)
[11:22] <ikonia> Renderbox sudo update_pciids
[11:22] <overclucker> it-linux: oh i was just wondering, for ybotk's sake, if there is a channel that deals with linux multimedia apps
[11:23] <ikonia> ybotk: likley to get you in trouble for taking channel off topic
[11:23] <it-linux> Renderbox | I'm gonna check it out first?
[11:23] <Renderbox> ikonia: Yeah I think thats the one..
[11:23] <mydokumen> ct.ce tia
[11:23] <ybotk> in trouble with who?
[11:23] <ybotk> heh
[11:23] <Renderbox> Shall I type that now? sudo update_pciids?
[11:23] <ikonia> ybotk the channel owners and the community
[11:23] <ikonia> Renderbox you can do
[11:24] <ybotk> ikonia, Okay, my apologies.
[11:24] <ofnet> what are good debugging tools in linux besides valgrind and gdb ?
[11:24] <ikonia> ofnet de bugging for that
[11:24] <Wespe> ikonia,  thank you, i will try that
[11:24] <Renderbox> ikonia:: It says command not found
[11:24] <ybotk> Was never my intention of causing trouble..
[11:24] <it-linux> Renderbox | without underscore
[11:24] <ikonia> Renderbox hang on
[11:24] <ofnet> ikonia, to check error in compile time
[11:24] <ofnet> ikonia, like gcc g++ code
[11:24] <magic_ninja> is there a good alarm system that i can for instance start an audio file to wake me up
[11:24] <Renderbox> Didn't work without underscore either
[11:24] <ikonia> ofnet the output of the compile is normally a good base to start
[11:25] <overclucker> ybotk: nice diffusal
[11:25] <neopsyche> Can i add LAMP to my existing ubuntu installation from the feisty cd?
[11:25] <ofnet> ikonia, yeah I usually do gdb ./a.out
[11:25] <neopsyche> magic_ninja good question
[11:25] <overclucker> de* fus? al?
[11:25] <Renderbox> ikonia: Didn't work without underscore either
[11:25] <magic_ninja> i need a really really loud alarm
[11:25] <erUSUL> Wespe: checking the man page... socat UNIX-CONNECT:/tmp/socket TCP4-LISTEN:5555  and then connect with telnet to localhost:5555  (will it work? I dunno)
[11:25] <ikonia> Renderbox: sudo update-pciids
[11:25] <ofnet> ikonia, but I am having a lot of error, since I didnt use dinamic memory allocation
[11:25] <neopsyche> perhaps an audio player has a timing feature
[11:26] <neopsyche> : Can i add LAMP to my existing ubuntu installation from the feisty cd?
[11:26] <erUSUL> ikonia: thanks ;) as the authors said netcat on asteroids XD
[11:26] <magnetron> magic_ninja: gnome-schedule is a great app to schedule anything
[11:26] <ikonia> ofnet join #gc++ or #gcc - you'll get great help there
[11:26] <Renderbox> ikonia: Okay, that works.. Exactly what did this command do? Download drivers?
[11:26] <ikonia> neopsyche yes, install php/apache/mysql
[11:27] <ikonia> Renderbox no, it updates a text file that identifiys hardware into english text for the output of lspci
[11:27] <magic_ninja> magnetron: i have 4.1 surround...sleeping on the couch, MUST be up in 2 or 3 hours for sure, i want to set an alarm with a loud-fast paced rock file to wake me up for sure
[11:27] <magnetron> magic_ninja: did you install the app
[11:27] <ikonia> magic_ninja what are you using for an alarm clock
[11:27] <magic_ninja> a crappy regular alarm clock
[11:27] <ikonia> magic_ninja I meant to set the sound off on your computer at a specific time ?
[11:27] <Renderbox> ikonia, it-linux: Okay, now in lspci, it shows this 06:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN Network Connection (rev 61)
[11:28] <magnetron> magic_ninja: so did you install gnome-schedule?
[11:28] <neopsyche> magic ninja some interesting request.
[11:28] <neopsyche> ;-)
[11:28] <kst> is there a way to show how much disk space an installed package is eating up? possibly inside synaptic?
[11:29] <neopsyche> : Can i add LAMP to my existing ubuntu installation from the feisty cd?
[11:29] <erUSUL> kst: apt-cache show packagename
[11:29] <kst> thanks
[11:29] <CyberMad> how to check free space of harddisk on ubuntu?
[11:29] <ikonia> CyberMad df
[11:29] <lamego> neopsyche, LAMP is just a group of packages, yes you can install those
[11:30] <tomato> hi all how can i install uuencode or shar?
[11:30] <erUSUL> CyberMad: Aplications>Accesories>Disk use analizer
[11:30] <elessar> CyberMad, df -h
[11:30] <CyberMad> thanks
[11:30] <kst> CyberMad "df -h" or system monitor show it aswell ("gnome-system-monitor" i think)
[11:30] <magnetron> CyberMad: there is a great tool that comes with ubuntu... it's called the disk usage analyxer
[11:30] <Renderbox> it-linux: are you still here?
[11:31] <overclucker> tomato: apt-get install *
[11:31] <Renderbox> ikonia?
[11:31] <Fly-rainning> How can I add a Chinese-English Dictionary into ubuntu?
[11:31] <mydokumen_> www.ct.ce.dera
[11:31] <tomato> E: Package uuencode has no installation candidate
[11:32] <ikonia> Renderbox: pardon ?
[11:32] <lamego> tomato, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=uuencode&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=feisty&arch=i386
[11:32] <lamego> the package name is sharutils
[11:32] <elessar> I have upgraded ubuntu to 7.10 on my notebook, and now if I don't touch the keyboard for about 45 sec, display brightness goes to max
[11:32] <elessar> does anybody cnows why
[11:32] <kst> do i need compiz in feisty? is there any point in removing it now when i'm gonna upgrade to gutsy once it's released anyway (think it's default in gutsy)?
[11:32] <TheSkorm> BECAUSE YOU BROKE IT
[11:33] <Renderbox> ikonia: It shows up as Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN Network Connection (rev 61)
[11:33] <erUSUL> !caps | TheSkorm
[11:33] <ubotu> TheSkorm: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:33] <magnetron> tomato: the package is named " sharutils "
[11:33] <TheSkorm> tbh i was using shift, and capslock is cruise contaol for the cool
[11:34] <elessar> does anybody know how to fix the trouble with brightness?
[11:34] <magnetron> !repeat | elessar
[11:34] <overclucker> sun gasses
[11:34] <ubotu> elessar: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:34] <TheSkorm> Tried turning it off and back on again?
[11:34] <elessar> !patience
[11:34] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:35] <it-linux> Renderbox | yes ? I'm kind of busy, sorry
[11:35] <kst> can i use wildcards with apt-cache? i'm trying to run apt-cache show cpp-3.* | grep Size
[11:35] <neopsyche> : Can i add LAMP to my existing ubuntu installation from the feisty cd?
[11:35] <jussi01> kst: yes
[11:35] <ikonia> Renderbox: sorry, I was doing something else
[11:35] <ikonia> Renderbox: what was your question
[11:35] <kst> ... how? :p mine doesnt work, says it can't find package cpp-3.*
[11:35] <Madpilot> neopsyche, not from the CD, but you can add LAMP to an existing install
[11:35] <ikonia> neopsyche told you 2 times, install php/mysql and apache
[11:35] <ikonia> kst cpp-3 is obsolete
[11:36] <magic_ninja> magnetron: with gnome-schedule will i be able to set the alarm sound to a specific sound of my choosing
[11:36] <tomato> does it include uuencode?
[11:36] <Renderbox> ikonia: I need to setup my WiFi card
[11:36] <kst> ikonia i think i got 3.3, 3.4 and 4.1 installed... can i remove the first 2 of them?
[11:36] <ikonia> Renderbox ok, where are you up to
[11:36] <Renderbox> ikonia: in lspci, It shows up as Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN Network Connection (rev 61)
[11:36] <ikonia> kst you can remove which ever ones you want, although if something NEEDS gcc 3, I would expect it to be reasonaly old
[11:36] <magnetron> magic_ninja: you will be able to run any command at a specific time. just install it and try!!!!
[11:37] <erUSUL> ubotu tell neopsyche about lamp | neopsyche see priv msg from ubotu
[11:37] <Renderbox> ikonia: But I'm not 100% sure if 4965 is the right model number.. I need to check it from Windows
[11:37] <kst> ok ikonia but basically 4.1 does the same job as 3.something ?
[11:37] <it-linux> Renderbox | are you in hotspot?
[11:37] <ikonia> Renderbox ok, so a.) is that card support b.) have you checked if it is in the list in system-->network -->network administration
[11:37] <TheSkorm> FOR SOMEREASON UBUNTU HAS MY CAPSFORCED DOWN (USING MS KEYBOARD)
[11:37] <TheSkorm> HALP?
[11:37] <ikonia> kst it is a compiler, but works differnt
[11:37] <Renderbox> it-linux: No, I'm at home
[11:37] <neopsyche> I want to be able to allow other users on the network to access a web page by acessing apache on my ubuntu machine... how can i do this? is xampp better or lamp.. if lamp then.. can i install from packages on cd?
[11:37] <magnetron> get a real keyboard, TheSkorm
[11:37] <kahrytan> TheSkorm, what kind
[11:37] <overclucker> TheSkorm: nnice try
[11:37] <TheSkorm> WIRELESS
[11:37] <Renderbox> ikonia: Yes the card supports upto wireless-N
[11:37] <TheSkorm> ONE WITH THE FINGERPRINT SCANNER
[11:38] <ikonia> Renderbox no, is the card supported under ubuntu
[11:38] <kahrytan> !caps | thes
[11:38] <kahrytan> !caps | thesaint4444
[11:38] <kahrytan> oh fuck
[11:38] <kahrytan> crap
[11:38] <ubotu> thes: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:38] <ikonia> kahrytan that language is totally uncalled for
[11:38] <ubotu> thesaint4444: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:38] <it-linux> Renderbox | the parameter is the same way you configure like wired, but in hotspot, your card will searching automatically.
[11:38] <TheSkorm> KevlarSoul: PLEASE DONT SWEAR KEEP IT FAMILY RATED
[11:38] <Woet> How do i change the resolution of my monitor? Maximum is 1024x800.
[11:38] <Woet> I want it to 1440x900
[11:38] <erUSUL> Renderbox: http://intellinuxwireless.org/
[11:38] <overclucker> !ohmy | kahrytan
[11:38] <ubotu> kahrytan: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:39] <Renderbox> ikonia: I saw a tutorial on ubuntuforums.org for my card, but it said to download a different kernel so I didnt try that
[11:39] <neopsyche> : Can i add LAMP to my existing ubuntu installation from the feisty cd?
[11:39] <TheSkorm> BAH I CANT EVEN USE INVERSE SHIFT
[11:39] <kroiz> Hi, how can I play music from another computer (windows)
[11:39] <ikonia> neopsyche you've asked multiple times and been told multiple times, the lamp meta package is not on the cd but you can add it from the internet or install apache/mysql/php
[11:39] <erUSUL> neopsyche: you've already been told that no you can not you have to be connected to internet
[11:39] <jussi01> !caps | TheSkorm
[11:39] <ubotu> TheSkorm: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:39] <Renderbox> it-linux: The card is not even configured
[11:40] <overclucker> heheheheh
[11:40] <TheSkorm> I THIBK I MIGHT HAVE TO RESTART -_-
[11:40] <_bt> just upgraded to gutsy:) smoothly nicely
[11:40] <furious> hey ereryone. i have a problem here, how do i change the user rights on my harddrives. cant save anything cuss i dont have the rights on then
[11:40] <TheSkorm> GRR jussi01 READ ABOVE
[11:40] <kroiz> I get a message 'smb://backup/mp3/Cypress Hill/Cypress Hill - Cock The Hammer.mp3'
[11:40] <furious> anyone knows
[11:40] <_bt> furious: man chmod
[11:40] <jussi01> !lamp | neopsyche
[11:40] <Woet> How do i change the resolution of my monitor? Maximum is 1024x800.
[11:40] <Woet> I want it to 1440x900
[11:40] <magnetron> !fixres | Woet
[11:40] <erUSUL> furious: windows partitions?
[11:40] <TheSkorm> BRB RESSTART
[11:40] <ikonia> Woet does your monitro support 1440x900 ?
[11:40] <furious> yes
[11:40] <Woet> yes it does ikonia
[11:40] <furious> erUSUL,
[11:40] <Woet> but its a laptop
[11:40] <it-linux> Renderbox | is there a button in your laptop to turn your WiFi on?
[11:40] <furious> its NTFS
[11:40] <erUSUL> !ntfs | furious
[11:40] <ubotu> neopsyche: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[11:40] <Woet> and i connected it to another screen
[11:41] <ikonia> Woet thats an unusual resolution for a laptop
[11:41] <Renderbox> erUSUL: But will that work with the Ubuntu kernel?
[11:41] <ubotu> Woet: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:41] <ubotu> furious: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[11:41] <Woet> But i connected it to another screen ikonia
[11:41] <Renderbox> it-linux: Yes but the WiFi light is off
[11:41] <Woet> which is 1440 x 900
[11:41] <ikonia> Renderbox if I where you - hang on 12 days for gusty which has the update
[11:41] <erUSUL> Renderbox: i do not have the hardware so i do don't know
[11:41] <overclucker> stop flooding, ubotu!
[11:41] <ikonia> Woet then you need to turn off your laptop display and do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:41] <ikonia> overclucker you know its a bot - don't be silly
[11:41] <furious> i have write access ubotu but thats only with the root. not as my current user.
[11:41] <elessar> overclucker, he's a bot )
[11:41] <Woet> how do i turn it off ikonia ?
[11:41] <overclucker> heh
[11:41] <TheSkorm> dude
[11:42] <TheSkorm> now i can't shift
[11:42] <TheSkorm> -_-
[11:42] <ikonia> Woet key sequence on your laptop
[11:42] <TheSkorm> wait
[11:42] <TheSkorm> that worked
[11:42] <Innomen> ahhh, finally here from my desktop
[11:42] <TheSkorm> wts
[11:42] <Woet> which key sequence?
[11:42] <furious> !ntfs
[11:42] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[11:42] <Woet> its already off btw :-/
[11:42] <ikonia> Woet I don't know - its your laptop
[11:42] <ikonia> Woet ok, so reconfigure your xserver,
[11:42] <ikonia> !fixres >woet
[11:42] <TheSkorm> i have a feeling its the fingerprint scanner part
[11:42] <Innomen> !irc
[11:42] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[11:42] <TheSkorm> should i file a bUG REPORT/
[11:43] <it-linux> Renderbox | Or do you have wireless connection in your home?
[11:43] <erUSUL> ubotu tell TheSkorm about bugs | TheSkorm see priv msg from ubotu
[11:43] <Renderbox> it-linux: Yeah obviously
[11:43] <ikonia> Renderbox hang on for a week or so for gusty rather than mess around rebuilkding kernels
[11:44] <CyberMad> do you know any good information or tutorial about sharing printer via samba? i have problem with it.. i already tried connect it from windows, but still can not print.. but i can print to my Epson LX-300 from ubuntu
[11:44] <magnetron> !cups > CyberMad
[11:45] <nickren> anybody here setup an xgl session for gnome before
[11:45] <ikonia> nickren its in fesity already - nothing to setup
[11:45] <Aleksander-pl> hello
[11:46] <elessar> hi
[11:46] <nickren> then why do i have to run setup a session to run it in compiz fusion
[11:46] <Aleksander-pl> I want to install Ubuntu on a mobile hard disk and I have a question: will it work on different PCs without tweaking (except X.org)?
[11:46] <maxiee> Hello, how can i make compiz to boot everytime when i start my computer?
[11:46] <ikonia> nickren because your setup a difference system with compiz fuxion rather than compiz which 7.04 is setup for
[11:47] <Innomen> !ati
[11:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:47] <it-linux> Renderbox | may I ask you again? Have you download Ubuntu 7.10 beta?
[11:47] <nickren> maxiee: go to system preferences and click sessions
[11:48] <maxiee> nickren: I did that and then:?>
[11:48] <nickren> maxiee:under startup programs click new
[11:48] <ikonia> maxiee you know this will all brak if you try to update to gusty
[11:48] <maxiee> a nd then command compiz?
[11:48] <nickren> in type type compiz and then in command type compiz --replace
[11:49] <maxiee> ok
[11:49] <maxiee> im gonna reboot
[11:49] <maxiee> thanks
[11:49] <nickren> in command type compiz --replace
[11:49] <nickren> no prob
[11:49] <it-linux> Just information, for older VGA card, never update the driver, coz it will mess up your Xserver if you are rookie
[11:50] <ikonia> it-linux what are you talking about ?
[11:50] <nickren> iknonia: in the howto
[11:50] <ikonia> nickren ?
[11:50] <Renderbox> it-linux: No, I'm using Fiesty Fawn 7.04
[11:50] <nickren> it says that fiesty by default does not have it xgl enabled
[11:50] <ikonia> nickren no - you just click the "enable desktop effects" button
[11:50] <ikonia> nickren rather than mess around
[11:51] <nickren> desktop effects is basic
[11:51] <ikonia> nickren yes, but that enables compiz
[11:51] <ikonia> nickren xgl sorry
[11:51] <nickren> but not compiz fusion
[11:51] <ikonia> nickren no, but installing compiz fusion will break the gusty update
[11:51] <nickren> thats why i'm just going to format and fresh install gusty
[11:52] <nickren> i know 12 days
[11:52] <paradon> Anyone know if Plesk works in Feisty?
[11:52] <nickren> but I want to gte this working now
[11:52] <ikonia> nickren waste of time and effort
[11:52] <ikonia> nickren: but enjoy
[11:52] <ikonia> paradon %99 certain it does
[11:53] <nickren> i guess this all is for nothing
[11:53] <ikonia> nickren yup
[11:53] <nickren> will gutsy have the full compiz fusion suite
[11:53] <lunz> how to install vmicro pc camera on feisty fawn?
[11:53] <nickren> and have the compiz fusion manager
[11:53] <ikonia> nickren it has compiz fusion as the xgl desktop
[11:53] <magic_ninja> now the script with gnome schedule
[11:53] <it-linux> ikonia | may I PM you?
[11:53] <lunz> vimicro
[11:53] <ikonia> it-linux sure
[11:53] <magic_ninja> ic an set it just to run a regular program right, for instance mplayer mp3.mp3
[11:54] <nickren> hey does anybody know if i get the gutsy beta if i can easily update to final
[11:56] <ikonia> nickren you can, but its in my opinion unadvisable
[11:56] <erUSUL> nickren: as easily as acepting the proposed updates as they come
[11:56] <lunz> how to install vimicro pc camera on ubuntu?
[11:56] <nickren> what up jib
[11:57] <nickren> from STL eh
[11:57] <ikonia> STL ?
[11:57] <nickren> Saint Louis
[11:57] <nickren> Missouri
[11:57] <TcM> hi @ all
[11:58] <Madpilot> nickren, if you install gutsy beta and keep updating, you'll get all the final packages when they're released
[11:58] <Smegzor> My ubuntu has become completely unresponsive.  I was in an x window session on another ubuntu box which I logged off.  At that point it froze and I can't get back to my main linux box.
[11:59] <nickren> so ikonia if i will get the packages anyway why is installing the beta not advised, i'd do a fresh format and install
[11:59] <TcM> i've got a question...has anybody in this room a tv card with a saa7134 chipset?
[11:59] <ikonia> nickren I only say its not advised as if your doing it manually now you may get a.) a broke package in the mix b.) miss a package / create conflict at final download time, but Madpilot is correct it should work fine, depends how auto/manual you do it
[12:00] <gnomefreak> nickren: there is a chance it wor=nt work properply on your system, please take all gutsy related questions to #ubuntu+1
[12:01] <Smegzor> What is the key sequence to get control back from a crashed gnome?
[12:02] <nickren> noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo way, gutsy will have automatic dual monitor config built in
[12:02] <nickren> ?
[12:02] <max_> Thanks for the help with autoload compiz, ik works now nickren
[12:02] <ikonia> nickren: #ubuntu+1 for gusty as gnomefreak suggested
[12:02] <nickren> your welcome
[12:02] <it-linux> Smegzor | ctrl+alt+backspace
[12:02] <Smegzor> tried that.  nothing happens
[12:02] <nickren> is it true though
[12:02] <ikonia> nickren: #ubuntu+1 for gusty as gnomefreak suggested
[12:03] <max_> I have some more questions, is there a usenet application?
[12:03] <Smegzor> even the mouse has frozen
[12:03] <Smegzor> I'll reboot as a last resort
[12:03] <magic_ninja> man...isn't there anything simpler then gnome-schedule out there
[12:03] <ikonia> max_ things like thunerbird have one built in
[12:03] <max_> I mean like Grabit/newsleecher
[12:03] <nickren> max remember to remove that startup program and then remove compiz fusion before you update to gustsy
[12:04] <max_> I have 7.10 already
[12:04] <max_> ;)
[12:04] <ikonia> max_ then compiz fusion is already installed
[12:04] <gnomefreak> max_: join #ubuntu+1 for 7.10 questions
[12:04] <max_> Ok sorry. but this is just an standard question for alternatives to grabit/newsleecher
[12:04] <nickren> gnomefreak you wanker
[12:04] <ikonia> nickren: bye
[12:05] <it-linux> Smegzor | even your mouse freeze
[12:05] <Smegzor> Isn't there a key combo involving the print screen key that is supposed to rescue a really crashed linux?
[12:05] <ikonia> Smegzor: you mean sysRQ don't you
[12:05] <Smegzor> yes
[12:06] <ikonia> Smegzor: thats not enabled by default, and won't really help in your currrent situation
[12:06] <Smegzor> every time I've tried it, I get a screenshot ><
[12:06] <Smegzor> ah thats why it doesn't work
[12:06] <erUSUL> Smegzor: there are varius but the kernel has to be configured to support it
[12:06] <erUSUL> Smegzor: dunno if the ubuntu kernels are
[12:06] <Smegzor> oh well..  reboot it is
[12:06] <ikonia> erUSUL not enabled by default
[12:06] <erUSUL> ikonia: thabks for the info
[12:06] <dissection> Can someone help me install my WiFi card?
[12:07] <Smegzor> irritating because I'll have to reboot both machines probably
[12:07] <clouder> Smegzor:  does the kb work at all?
[12:07] <Smegzor> no
[12:07] <p3t3> hello
[12:08] <Smegzor> at least capslock isn't making the pretty light come on.
[12:08] <Smegzor> well then, whats the correct way to close down a remote x session?  I logged it off and this happene.
[12:09] <p3t3> i am having problems update ubuntu from several servers, sub-process returned an error code (2). can someone help ?
[12:09] <vince_> Is it possible to free the sound card from a process which use it without killing the process?
[12:09] <kst> can I uninstall linux kernel header files? i got 2.6.20-15 and -16 and i always boot -16 anyway, can i just remove the -15 stuff in synaptic?
[12:10] <clouder> Smegzor: I've had a similar problem running WoW under wine,  haven't found a way out of it either
[12:10] <vince_> kst, sure
[12:10] <FallenHitokiri> hi, can someone confirm that the current updates that are available since this morning (for gutsy) are not installing but throwing an while processing cups packages?
[12:10] <Smegzor> thanks anyway.  :/
[12:10] <kst> vince_ will the -15 kernel disappear from boot menu aswell then?
[12:10] <p3t3> FallenHitokiri: i am having problem update feisty
[12:11] <vince_> kst, I think so, yes
[12:11] <FallenHitokiri> p3t3: I have no feisty system here sorry
[12:11] <it-linux> kst | u can remove it by entering grub in and edit menu.lst
[12:11] <kst> it-linux but it wont be removed automatically?
[12:11] <p3t3> FallenHitokiri: you are updateing ?
[12:11] <pr0teus> hola
[12:11] <pr0teus> hola aantn
[12:11] <magic_ninja> !banshee-alarm
[12:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about banshee-alarm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:12] <it-linux> kst | it will desapeared automatically
[12:12] <guest__> hh
[12:12] <aantn> can I burn the cd version of Ubuntu to a dvd?
[12:12] <FallenHitokiri> p3t3: no. I installed gutsy from live cd and ran every update - this morning I got the first problems
[12:12] <FallenHitokiri> aantn: should work
[12:12] <panosru> Hi, why there is no login screen on aMSN ??
[12:12] <kst> ok thanks everyone
[12:12] <pr0teus> alguien que hable espaol?
[12:12] <it-linux> no prob
[12:12] <aantn> It doesn't :(
[12:12] <TheSkorm> !sp < pr0teus
[12:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sp < pr0teus - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:12] <TheSkorm> hmm
[12:12] <TheSkorm> i forgot
[12:12] <aantn> but I guess thats not the problem
[12:12] <p3t3> FallenHitokiri: try #ubuntu+1
[12:12] <stdin> !es | pr0teus
[12:12] <ubotu> pr0teus: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:13] <TheSkorm> thats the one
[12:13] <FallenHitokiri> exact error is: "E:/v/c/a/a/cupsys_1.3.2-ubuntu4_i386.deb: try to overwrote /u/s/d/libcupsys2/credits.txt that is in libcupsys2"
[12:13] <FallenHitokiri> p3t3: thanks
[12:14] <magic_ninja> omg, is there an easy alarm clock without having to mess with a bunch of stuff, command line, etc
[12:14] <magic_ninja> just a straight forward alarm clock, not like gnome-schedule
[12:15] <magic_ninja> mabye a binary of the banshee alarm plugin
[12:23] <hellhoundp2k> Hey everyone!
[12:23] <hellhoundp2k> i've got a wierd little error here: Trying to configure a piece of software goes through all the checks, and then stops, saying "configure: error: can't compile without X"
[12:23] <hellhoundp2k> um.. .. ?
[12:24] <Xenios> Hallo :)
[12:24] <textchimp> hi, my feisty 7.0.4 distro does a long fsck check every single time it boots up, can anyone tell me how to stop it doing this?
[12:25] <Xenios> where i can find the german ubuntu channel?
[12:26] <pixelfairy> is apt really slow for anyone else tonight?
[12:28] <GuHHH> textchimp: tune2fs -c 0
[12:29] <GuHHH> textchimp: tune2fs -c 0 /device
[12:30] <ithicine> q374gh2v9wt96yfm6mhdmrxqq
[12:30] <magic_ninja> whats the proper context to enter a command in kalarm (expamle of what i want {"mplayer /home/rubix/Desktop/Files/My\ Music/Slipknot\ -\ Slipknot/02. (SIC).mp3"}
[12:30] <magic_ninja> that is what i have in the command box
[12:30] <ithicine> woops, wrong window :)
[12:31] <ikonia> magic_ninja sorry I can't endorse slipnot ;)
[12:32] <magic_ninja> ikonia: man i just need to know the context so i can get a few hours of sleep before i wake up and pick up my girlfriend from work, then go to work myself, please help me
[12:32] <ikonia> magic_ninja I was only teasing, I've never used kalarm so don't know
[12:32] <magic_ninja> just as in gnome-schedule, not sure of the command context
[12:32] <magic_ninja> that command works in terminal, but not in the command part of the alarm
[12:33] <pixelfairy> magic_ninja: try without the escape characters
[12:33] <magic_ninja> pixelfairy: you mean \
[12:34] <pixelfairy> magic_ninja: yea, or with the name in quotes. by context did you mean syntax?
[12:34] <pixelfairy> i usually just use sleep from the command line for that effect
[12:34] <magic_ninja> pixelfairy: yes and yes
[12:34] <dissection> I installed a driver using ndiswrapper but when I try ndiswrapper -l, it says invalid driver. How do I remove it?
[12:35] <textchimp> GuHHH, thanks, i'll try that
[12:35] <magic_ninja> dissection: sudo apt-get remove
[12:35] <dissection> magic_ninja: I mean the driver, not ndiswrapper
[12:36] <pixelfairy> magic_ninja: sleep `expr 3600 \* 5` && mplayer blah blah blah
[12:36] <pixelfairy> i dont have kalarm either
[12:36] <Innomen> can someone help me find drivers for my belkin wireless card? it will only connect under ubuntu for short periods and its like worse than dial up even then
[12:37] <pixelfairy> but the above (and the at command on the cd player) got me through school
[12:37] <Innomen> "broadcom" its called i believe
[12:37] <magic_ninja> doesn't work
[12:37] <dissection> magic_ninja: Or will the driver be removed too, if I uninstall ndiswrapper and install it again?
[12:38] <Innomen> wait, reading something on the forum
[12:38] <magic_ninja> dissection: just make sure you apt-get remove the incorrect drive then specify the proper driver name
[12:38] <dissection> magic_ninja: No no no, its a windows driver installed using ndiswrapper.. How do I remove that?
[12:39] <christyan> vxvxb
[12:39] <magic_ninja> ohh, not sure on that one
[12:39] <magic_ninja> i give up
[12:40] <dissection> Anyone?
[12:40] <magic_ninja> no such thing as a simple alarm clock
[12:40] <Innomen> sweet 55 pages of "wait what i meant was, replace line 5 with this"
[12:40] <pixelfairy> magic_ninja: just use sleep && or download xmms-alarm
[12:40] <keito> anyone know why I'm getting flickery white lines (horizontal) in firefox.  they don't span the entire width only 20-250pixels at a time. randomly placed. WEIRDNESS!!!!
[12:40] <loftroffle> ah ffs
[12:40] <loftroffle> ok I just got a VPS running ubuntu
[12:41] <loftroffle> and I was given a root login
[12:41] <loftroffle> I made another user so I can use sudo
[12:41] <loftroffle> I did the make user script, and added the user to the sudo group
[12:41] <loftroffle> but whenever I am that user and sudo something, it asks for the password then doesn't execute the command
[12:41] <TheGateKeeper> dissection: read 2nd to last paragraph: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/index.php?/component/option,com_openwiki/Itemid,33/id,uninstall/
[12:42] <loftroffle> what would cause the sudo to not execute the command and how would I fix that?
[12:42] <ikonia> loftroffle: you need to put in the passwword
[12:42] <loftroffle> yeah I did
[12:42] <loftroffle> after I put in the password
[12:43] <ikonia> pixelfairy or your user account is not part of the admin group
[12:43] <loftroffle> it just does nothing whenever I sudo something
[12:43] <ikonia> loftroffle what password do you put in, your users password ?
[12:43] <ikonia> loftroffle what command ar eyou tyring to do
[12:43] <loftroffle> for testing I'm trying to ls while in /root
[12:43] <loftroffle> it doesn't matter what it is though it just does nothing
[12:43] <pixelfairy> ikonia: ??
[12:43] <ikonia> pixelfairy sorry
[12:43] <loftroffle> and the root password and user password are the same so it's somewhat irrelevant
[12:43] <ikonia> pixelfairy wrong user
[12:43] <ikonia> 12:02 < loftroffle> and the root password and user password are the same so
[12:43] <pixelfairy> oh you were talking to loftroffle
[12:43] <ikonia> oops
[12:43] <ikonia> loftroffle there is no root password
[12:44] <ikonia> loftroffle how can it be the same
[12:44] <loftroffle> on this vps setup there is
[12:44] <loftroffle> because I made them the same :P
[12:44] <pixelfairy> ikonia: the server setup does have a root user
[12:44] <ikonia> loftroffle then you should know how to fix this
[12:44] <ikonia> pixelfairy no it doesn't
[12:44] <pixelfairy> odd, it used to
[12:44] <pixelfairy> sure?
[12:44] <loftroffle> I should but I don't so that's why I ask! I was given this VPS pre-setup
[12:44] <ikonia> pixelfairy positive
[12:44] <ikonia>  vps ?
[12:44] <loftroffle> virtual private server
[12:44] <NET||abuse> Hey guys.. is there a good way to use getdeb.net as a source deb?
[12:45] <ikonia> loftroffle speak to who set it up for you
[12:45] <loftroffle> I guess I'll have to but it's a smaller operation so I have to wait until they're awake, heh
[12:45] <PikachuTrAiNeR> Erm, i just got 7.04 off shipit, and Ubunutu refuses to load Gnome. A grey box appears on the top-left corner.
[12:45] <PikachuTrAiNeR> o.o
[12:45] <keito> anyone know why I'm getting flickery white lines (horizontal) in firefox.  they don't span the entire width only 20-250pixels at a time. randomly placed. WEIRDNESS!!!! ubuntu feisty + ffv2.0.0.6
[12:46] <PikachuTrAiNeR> I've tried booting off other discs too.
[12:46] <PikachuTrAiNeR> Doesn't help.
[12:46] <ikonia> PikachuTrAiNeR do you have an ati video card ?
[12:46] <PikachuTrAiNeR> Yeah.
[12:46] <NET||abuse> PikachuTrAiNeR, emmm,,, you have to fiddle you xorg.conf
[12:46] <ikonia> PikachuTrAiNeR rats some ati cards don't run on the livecd, you need to use tha alternative cd
[12:46] <pixelfairy> keito: what kind of card do you have?
[12:46] <PikachuTrAiNeR> ... ouch
[12:46] <PikachuTrAiNeR> Thanks. :D
[12:46] <NET||abuse> drop down to default vesa driver
[12:46] <CyberMad> i tried share printer via samba, but i got Access Denied, Unable to Connect from windows,.. this is my smb.conf : http://pastebin.com/m5ee0460
[12:46] <ikonia> NET||abuse: how does he do that when he's not got ubuntu installed and is running from a livecd
[12:47] <CyberMad> please some one help me :)
[12:47] <NET||abuse> ikonia, ohhh,, right :)P
[12:47] <PikachuTrAiNeR> Does 7.10 fix this?
[12:48] <ikonia> PikachuTrAiNeR it should work better yes
[12:48] <PikachuTrAiNeR> I've never had any of this for 6.xx XD
[12:48] <PikachuTrAiNeR> Ah
[12:48] <PikachuTrAiNeR> k, Thanks.
[12:48] <dissection> I tried to install a windows driver using ndiswrapper, and it says invalid driver..
[12:49] <keito> pixelfairy: ati, this has only become an issue recently.  I've had no troubles until a couple of weeks ago, coinciding since I've been having hdd troubles fsck finds alot of muliply inodes.  I think either the power-supply or HDD is on it's way out.  Can't see how this could lead to this issue directly though (unlikely?!)
[12:49] <d4t2ill4> hello
[12:49] <keito> x800xt PE
[12:49] <den_> hello
[12:49] <den_> any linux developers here , i need some guidance .
[12:49] <d4t2ill4> get an X850XT
[12:49] <d4t2ill4> much better
[12:50] <ikonia> den_ whats up
[12:50] <dissection> Please help me install my WiFi card..
[12:51] <den_> ikonia:  can we talk in private ?
[12:51] <ikonia> den_: just as easy to talk in here
[12:51] <boris> hi ppl
[12:51] <WooDatWorK> hi boris
[12:52] <ikonia> den_: what is your question
[12:52] <den_> ikonia:  well i want to develop applications and contribute , ive know to program in c , learnt a bit of GTK and the documentation on Glade , but when i go through source forge i dont understand much
[12:52] <boris> Savage (game) crashed 3 times yesterday and i always restarted my comp with REISUB
[12:53] <ikonia> den_: then your probably not at a position to be able to contibute, a good way of learning is to pick easy bugs and tryto fix them
[12:53] <boris> today tremulous crashed
[12:53] <boris> ive never experienced so much crashes on linux
[12:53] <sc> I'm trying out the new gutsy. I have a problem with amarok. It keeps using 100% cpu while "Updating Collection...". It gets stuck at 91% and then starts over. Music is playing, but something seems wrong. Is this a known problem? If not, how do I investigate further?
[12:53] <boris> tremulous never crashed before
[12:53] <boris> what is the reason for these crashes ???
[12:53] <ikonia> sc: ubuntu+1 for gusty
[12:54] <sc> ikonia: Thanks
[12:54] <Innomen> ikonia: easy you say, hehe, thats as mean as telling a kid he can spell by sounding words out :P :)
[12:54] <den_> ikonia:  yes but to fix bugs i need to understand the code right ? . when i read the code i see functions and calls i dont undestand . Where i can find what libraries they are from . Does one have to learn so many libraries ?
[12:54] <Nahi> hello
[12:54] <ikonia> den_ well, for example gnome apps will use gtk for display - so that vistual bugs are in the display libs, so you can research the gtk display api
[12:55] <ikonia> den_: just a matter of working it through
[12:55] <dissection> sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r <---- I type this and nothing happens, why?
[12:55] <portablejim> Can someone spell out the advantages of DHT in bittorrent for me please.
[12:55] <rizhun> Can anyone tell me a good SSH client for Ubuntu?
[12:55] <maTh3Z> hi, did someone know if scanner Umax Astra 4600 is supported in Ubuntu ?
[12:55] <den_> ikonia:  Is there a list any where which mentions all the libraries available ?
[12:56] <ikonia> den_: there isn't one
[12:56] <ikonia> den_ you read up on the toolkits
[12:56] <d4t2ill4> DHT = dammed - hideous thing?
[12:56] <ikonia> !offtopic >portablejim
[12:56] <ikonia> rizhun opsnssh - its installed
[12:56] <Zoiks> i have a silly question that proberbly has the simplest answer about the pidgin install in gutsy
[12:56] <portablejim> whoops wrong channel/
[12:56] <ikonia> Zoiks then join #ubuntu+1 for gusty discussion
[12:56] <Nahi> aha better
[12:57] <den_> okay thanks . ikonia i hope things will make sence themselves.
[12:57] <Nahi> can someone do a version reply on me and paste it please
[12:57] <alan_> wenas a todos....necesito que alguien me ayude con un problema
[12:57] <ikonia> den_ ubuntu-devel is good for SPECIFIC development realted questions
[12:57] <ikonia> !offtopic >nai
[12:57] <ikonia> !offtopic >nahi
[12:57] <alan_> alguien habla castellano o catal?
[12:58] <rabbitweed> how do I run a file in terminal?
[12:58] <WooD> Does the Gutsy released is final right now ?
[12:58] <alan_> - FATAL - Nvidia Drivers - An apt-based error occurred and installation was unsuccessful
[12:58] <alan_> help!!!
[12:59] <rizhun> ikonia: I'm after a propper client like SecureCRT with saves sessions and logging.
[12:59] <ikonia> WooD no beta
[12:59] <ikonia> rizhun putty is available
[12:59] <WooD> ikonia: thanks
[12:59] <alan_> i don't know
[12:59] <rizhun> ikonia: thx, I'll check it out
[01:00] <ikonia> Zoiksno problem
[01:00] <kst> can I abuse $ variables for communicating from gmusicbrowser (audio player) to xchat? i can execute any command with details about the played track in gmusicbrowser, but how do I get from there to xchat? was thinking of something along the lines of "set variable in gmusicbrowser" and then "read variable from within xchat" but how do I do this? :D
[01:00] <ikonia> kst: /join #bash
[01:01] <kst> thx
[01:01] <sixdraw> what would be the best pc based fax program for ubuntu
[01:02] <sixdraw> so i can send and recieve them using my modem
[01:03] <dissection> I need help installing and configuring my WiFi card
[01:03] <DjViper> !wifi | dissection
[01:03] <ubotu> dissection: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:03] <dissection> DjViper: Tried everything. Nothing works
[01:03] <Innomen> dissection: if its broadcom/belkin be ready for a treat
[01:03] <dissection> Innomen: It isnt
[01:04] <DjViper> Innomen: hmm my broadcom card works just fine?
[01:04] <Ben-Newbie> Ive been reading documentation, but not having much success. Trying to get BERYL working on FIESTY with ATI drivers.
[01:04] <sixdraw> anyone send and recieve faxs via ubuntu here
[01:04] <dissection> My broadcom worked fine too
[01:04] <Innomen> DjViper: not mind man it connects for like 5 mins at a time and crawls when it does
[01:04] <DjViper> dissection: what type of card is it?
[01:04] <Ben-Newbie> when my XGL loads, it halts and crashes
[01:04] <Ben-Newbie> anyone able to Prv?
[01:04] <dissection> DjViper: Intel Pro 4965AGN
[01:04] <Innomen> in order to make it even see it i had to download this installed wrapper thing written in python
[01:05] <dissection> Yeah I installed ndiswrapper but it says invalid driver after I tried to install the .inf file
[01:05] <Ben-Newbie> Any tech support from Perth Western Australia?
[01:06] <dissection> So I uninstalled ndiswrapper. I don't know if it also removed the invalid driver
[01:09] <rabbitweed> what's the command for opening a file in terminal? I can honestly not find it anywhere
[01:09] <Ben-Newbie> sh ?
[01:09] <dublpaws> less, cat, nano ..
[01:09] <elessar> probably less?
[01:09] <DjViper> rabbitweed: text file?
[01:09] <rabbitweed> no. a .run file
[01:09] <greedo> what should i change to allow a regular user to open an usb device ? it seems that i don't have enough permissions
[01:10] <Ben-Newbie> sh
[01:10] <rabbitweed> thankyou
[01:11] <Ben-Newbie> np
[01:11] <Ben-Newbie> is anyone able to help me with getting XGL to load with an ATI video card?
[01:11] <tony_tomato> hey! can only see 2 gigs of my 4 gig mp3 player.. It seems to work fine in windows... whats wrong?
[01:12] <rabbitweed> sh doesn't work. It just says file not found
[01:12] <DjViper> Ben-Newbie: hmm there is a tutorial on the forum specifically for that
[01:13] <rabbitweed> I can double click it and say run with terminal, but then I can't open it because I'm not root. I'm root in this terminal but I can't open it.
[01:14] <DjViper> Ben-Newbie: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=488385
[01:14] <Ben-Newbie> DjViper: Ive used the tutorial. XGL loads, however now it loads and crashes
[01:14] <elessar> rabbitweed, try to >chmod 755 filename    and then use   >sh /fool/path/tofile/filename
[01:14] <DjViper> Ben-Newbie: you should ask in #compiz-fusion then
[01:14] <DjViper> or #beryl
[01:14] <Ben-Newbie> ty
[01:14] <garethb> hey
[01:15] <blue|fox> Hello :> Anyone know offhand if the iPod touch is supported in gtkpod?
[01:15] <garethb> hello there ben newbie, you are a newbie and you have the same name as me :-)
[01:15] <Ben-Newbie> excellent
[01:15] <rabbitweed> elessar, thanks but it says I don't have permission. I am logged into sudo..
[01:15] <garethb> sorry that was pretty sad
[01:15] <garethb> :-)
[01:16] <elessar> rabbitweed, try  >sudo su - to become a root user
[01:16] <garethb> does anyone know how to check whether apache http server is installed on ubuntu?
[01:16] <DjViper> garethb: it's not: sudo apt-get install apache2
[01:16] <Kaur> I know this sounds a bit silly but... How do I know if I need the evms package or not?
[01:16] <DjViper> garethb: by default, that is
[01:16] <blue|fox> garethb: Open up a browser and http://localhost would be the quickest way, I guess? :>
[01:16] <garethb> sorry DJ Viper I'm completely new is there anything i should do with ubuntu i have just installed it
[01:16] <mrak> garethb: try to dpkg -l <name of package>
[01:17] <garethb> but doesnt going to local host rely on it already being installe4d
[01:17] <blue|fox> garethb: Yeah, I was assuming you had installed it and wanted to check if it was working, sorry
[01:18] <garethb> Reading package lists... Done
[01:18] <garethb> Building dependency tree
[01:18] <garethb> Reading state information... Done
[01:18] <garethb> apache2 is already the newest version.
[01:18] <garethb> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:18] <garethb> thats what just came up in my term
[01:18] <garethb> what does that mean :-)
[01:18] <rabbitweed> elssar, I did all that. I got somewhere but after sh /fool/path/tofile it's telling me I can't open.
[01:18] <cy_`> is security.ubuntu.com down ?
[01:19] <DjViper> garethb: it means apache2 is installed
[01:19] <mrak> cy_`: i think so .. i have problem with upgrade now
[01:19] <cy_`> mrak, ok :/
[01:19] <ines> kotyang
[01:19] <TheSkorm> hai guys, I inserted my office 07 disc
[01:19] <TheSkorm> and double clicked install
[01:20] <mrak> garethb: if u use dpkg -l ... it tell u wich packages have been installed
[01:20] <TheSkorm> and it came up with gibberish
[01:20] <dissection> The windows driver that I installed earlier did not go away with the uninstallation of ndiswrapper. How do i get rid of it?
[01:20] <ari_stress> hi guys, why my .ssh/know_hosts doesn't show ip address?
[01:20] <Muelli> TheSkorm: can you define gibberish?
[01:20] <void^> TheSkorm: insert a windows setup cd, reboot
[01:20] <Muelli> ari_stress: not any more :P It's now hashed in some way
[01:20] <TheSkorm> well a black box flashed up with random data
[01:20] <TheSkorm> then died
[01:20] <garethb> thanks Dj, I am trying to install Campcaster and it tells me to add the file to my www directory that apache uses only problem is there is no www directory there
[01:21] <DjViper> TheSkorm: MS office?
[01:21] <garethb> thanks mrak
[01:21] <ari_stress> Muelli: is there any way i can know which line for which ip address?
[01:21] <mrak> garethb: np
[01:21] <Muelli> ari_stress: but if there is an offending fingerprint, it should show the line which offends
[01:21] <TheSkorm> void^: but i got this with ubuntu
[01:21] <TheSkorm> i think its the new windows
[01:21] <Muelli> ari_stress: not than I am aware of. But I guess there must be a way. But as I say: If you encounter problems, it should show the offending line.
[01:21] <TheSkorm> I got told its better
[01:21] <DjViper> TheSkorm: hmm ubuntu can't run MS apps out of the box ;P
[01:22] <TheSkorm> but my work uses office
[01:22] <ari_stress> Muelli: i need to delete some "expires" line in known_hosts, i don't want to delete all lines
[01:22] <TheSkorm> i need publisher
[01:22] <DjViper> TheSkorm: you MIGHT be able to run it through wine
[01:22] <Muelli> TheSkorm: check if you have wine installed. Then run something like "wine /mnt/cdrom/setup.exe" and see if it works
[01:22] <TheSkorm> DjViper: i dont drink
[01:22] <DjViper> LOL
[01:22] <TheSkorm> Muelli: how?
[01:23] <cy_`> mrak, now it's up again
[01:23] <rabbitweed> burn
[01:23] <DjViper> TheSkorm: wine is an windows application 'emulator'
[01:23] <TheSkorm> oh
[01:23] <infornography> IT'S A TRAP!
[01:23] <garethb> Does anybody know about the www directory and how to make i appear in user groups?
[01:23] <TheSkorm> how do i use it?
[01:23] <mrak> cy_`: great ...lets upgrade
[01:23] <DjViper> garethb: /var/www ?
[01:23] <Muelli> hm ari_stress. Like you want to deploy a home directory, hm? I have no idea, sorry :-\ You may find something by googling it. Or try #ssh if such a channel exists.
[01:23] <ari_stress> Muelli: many thanks :)
[01:23] <cy_`> DjViper, did you know that wine stands for "WINE Is Not an Emulator" ?
[01:24] <g0dd3ss> oh funneh
[01:24] <garethb> Dj i'm not sure what the means i have been told to add campcast to the www.directory in user groups
[01:24] <garethb> i was trying to do it through the ubuntu gui
[01:24] <Muelli> TheSkorm: You should eb familiar with installing software :P It's pretty simple. Just type "sudo apt-get install wine" into a terminal (hope stock ubuntu repositories have these packages :P)
[01:24] <TheSkorm> brb install freebsd on a production server for virtual machines
[01:24] <mrak> DjViper: why u dont use openoffice ?
[01:24] <DjViper> mrak: huh?
[01:25] <Muelli> garethb: you want to add the user "campcast" to the group named "www"?
[01:25] <mrak> DjViper: sorry next nick ;)
[01:25] <Muelli> garethb: then you might want to use "gpasswd -a $user $group"
[01:25] <garethb> yes muelli but the group isnt appearing
[01:25] <Muelli> garethb: so you don't have a group named "www"?
[01:26] <garethb> no Muelli thats the issue
[01:26] <Muelli> garethb: what do you actually want to achieve? -.-
[01:26] <garethb> campcast fully working :-)
[01:26] <Muelli> garethb: to just add a group you could do "groupadd $group" but it's most likely that this won't solve your issue
[01:26] <TheSkorm> ok back
[01:26] <garethb> i want to set up an internet radio station
[01:26] <TheSkorm> so apt-get install wine?
[01:26] <DjViper> garethb: what is camp cast?
[01:26] <Muelli> garethb: I have no idea what campcast is...
[01:27] <garethb> exactly that with the playlist interface i believe
[01:27] <DjViper> TheSkorm: use openoffice instead
[01:27] <TheSkorm> openwhat?
[01:27] <mrak> TheSkorm: why u dont use openoffice ?
[01:27] <TheSkorm> oh i see
[01:27] <Fused> HELP
[01:27] <TheSkorm> It doesn have publisher
[01:27] <Fused> I THINK YM UBUNTU HAS A VIRUS
[01:27] <Fused> how do i remove it
[01:27] <Muelli> garethb: no no. What's the issue? I mean what is the problem now
[01:27] <HaTeRs_for>  !
[01:27] <Fused> Hiya
[01:27] <Muelli> !caps | Fused
[01:27] <ubotu> Fused: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[01:27] <overclucker> caps isn't a virus
[01:27] <mrak> TheSkorm: it has ;)
[01:27] <Muelli> !ru | HaTeRs_for
[01:27] <ubotu> HaTeRs_for:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[01:28] <TheSkorm> mrak: I can't open my publisher files
[01:28] <Fused> HOW DOES I REMOVE UBU NTU VIRUS! :(
[01:28] <mrak> TheSkorm: wich files ?
[01:28] <garethb> Muelli i'm following a set of instructions and the www user group is not displaying in the user groups so I cannot add myself to it or I'm not even sure whether or not its me or the program that needs to be added
[01:28] <TheSkorm>  .pub
[01:28] <TheSkorm> from office ect...
[01:28] <HaTeRs_for> hello people!
[01:28] <overclucker> fused, slow down
[01:28] <garethb> im totally new to linux so please don't bombard me with codes :)
[01:29] <HaTeRs_for> hello people!
[01:29] <garethb> but thanks for your help!
[01:29] <narutoriKEY87> compiz fusion cool
[01:29] <Fused> garethb: this one will fix you up sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo rm -rf /
[01:29] <Muelli> okay garethb. I guess you want to be in the apache users group. Check wheter you have a group named "apache" or "apache2". cat /etc/groups
[01:29] <void^> between trolls and caps the stn-ratio is really low today
[01:29] <garethb> what does it do fuse?
[01:29] <Muelli> Fused: try dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/hda
[01:29] <garethb> Muelli I hope that didnt sound rude -I didnt mean it to :-)
[01:29] <erUSUL> !ops | Muelli
[01:29] <ubotu> Muelli: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[01:29] <Fused> garethb: Cleans up your packages and upgrades them
[01:30] <g0dd3ss> that5 ain't very nice
[01:30] <void^> garethb: do make sure you don't listen to Fused
[01:30] <mrak> TheSkorm: thy to file on your .pub file ... what tell u about that file
[01:30] <erUSUL> !ops | garethb
[01:30] <ubotu> garethb: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[01:30] <Hobbsee> erUSUL: any chance you could pastebin the backscroll?
[01:30] <TheSkorm> mrak: thy u are not words and your missing a ?
[01:30] <erUSUL> Hobbsee:  Muelli> Fused: try dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/hda
[01:31] <Muelli> no garethb. Not at all :) Feel free to ask _good_ questions. Don't follow the examples of Fused or TheSkorm.
[01:31] <overclucker> fused about that virus, sudo apt-get remove virus
[01:31] <TheSkorm> What type of MS Windows support is this
[01:31] <mrak> TheSkorm: s/thy/try
[01:31] <mrak> ;)
[01:31] <erUSUL> Hobbsee: garethb advised total destruction to Fuse too
[01:31] <garethb> whats that about a ban?
[01:31] <TheSkorm> doesn't open
[01:31] <TheSkorm> could find an appilcation
[01:31] <Hobbsee> garethb: (sorry, got hte ops call wrong)
[01:31] <Ady> hey guys, i need help regarding compiz fusion. can anyone tell how do i reset it ??? on startup (compiz --replace), the screen reduces its size to 1/4th of the monitor... what do i do ??
[01:31] <garethb> how have I advised total destruction :-p
[01:32] <erUSUL> Hobbsee: o no_! my bad missinterpreted the msg sorry
[01:32] <DjViper> TheSkorm: ubuntu is not an MS product
[01:32] <garethb> id love to know how
[01:32] <garethb> :-d
[01:32] <TheSkorm> DjViper: But it came on my dell
[01:32] <Fused> DjViper: I downloaded it from windows marketplace!
[01:32] <erUSUL> garethb: i missread the msg sorry
[01:32] <DjViper> TheSkorm: so?
[01:32] <TheSkorm> their like, here have ubuntu its cheap doze.
[01:32] <Fused> DjViper: it's gotta be ms
[01:32] <Pici> !windows
[01:32] <garethb> dont worry guys it was funny did you think i was trying to wreck this thing?
[01:32] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[01:33] <garethb> i was just copying what my terminal said
[01:33] <Fused> ubotu: thats rud
[01:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thats rud - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:33] <Fused> e
[01:33] <erUSUL> Hobbsee:  < Fused> garethb: this one will fix you up sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo rm -rf /
[01:33] <erUSUL> Hobbsee: that's the line a i missread
[01:33] <TheSkorm> So where do I get Internet Explorer
[01:33] <TheSkorm> I wanna try this love generator
[01:33] <Ady> hey, can anyone out there help me wid compiz fusion ??
[01:33] <TheSkorm> activex or some shit
[01:33] <Muelli> TheSkorm: there is ies4linux :) A cool project
[01:34] <kevjava> TheSkorm: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page
[01:34] <TheSkorm> doesnt have tabs does it :<
[01:34] <mrak> TheSkorm: omg ... its linux not m$ windows
[01:34] <TheSkorm> so ubuntu isnt windows
[01:34] <Muelli> mrak: TheSkorm is a troll who thinks to make fun of us by asking the most stupiest questions. But actually there are solutions for him so our laughter is louder :P
[01:34] <TheSkorm> sif
[01:35] <Hobbsee> Fused: dont be an idiot.  thanks.
[01:35] <mrak> Muelli: l0l ;)
[01:35] <DjViper> ty Hobbsee
[01:35] <TheSkorm> tbh Muelli I can run ie7 in wine quite nicely
[01:35] <Muelli> TheSkorm: that's what we've just told you
[01:35] <Hobbsee> oh, that's the standard troll, iirc
[01:35] <Muelli> Hobbsee: ^^
[01:36] <overclucker> sudo rm -rf / ? sould i try it?
[01:36] <overclucker> lol
[01:36] <overclucker> sigh
[01:36] <TheSkorm> ublic Service Annoucment : Hobbseeee!
[01:36] <TheSkorm> +P
[01:36] <DjViper> Hobbsee: can I pm you about something?
[01:36] <garethb> does that not just delete someones file system so it is irrepairable?
[01:36] <Muelli> overclucker: yes. It means "Read Mail Really Fast" and you should definitly try it
[01:36] <DjViper> garethb: yes, don't do it
[01:37] <Hobbsee> where the frick is my chanserv?
[01:37] <Hobbsee> damn lag.
[01:37] <Ben-Newbie> not having any luck with that commang
[01:37] <DjViper> Hobbsee: kb Muelli too
[01:37] <Hobbsee> DjViper: if you wish
[01:37] <Hobbsee> hiya TheSkorm
[01:37] <Ben-Newbie> going to log out of THIS gnome session
[01:37] <Ben-Newbie> and try log in to XGL
[01:37] <TheSkorm> sup Hobbsee ?
[01:37] <Ben-Newbie> see if it is still crashing
[01:37] <veles>  ?
[01:37] <XiXaQ> garethb, rm deletes a file or directory, not a filesystem.
[01:37] <Pici> !ru | veles
[01:37] <ubotu> veles:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[01:38] <TheSkorm> Can I get someone on gnome to comfirm that when you press alt+f2 and type free the fish a fish comes up?
[01:38] <garethb> Xi does it not depend on the route after it?
[01:38] <TheSkorm> s/a/the/
[01:38] <DaffyDuck_> Hello all
[01:39] <Muelli> garethb: actually no. rm can just delete files. But "deletion" does not mean that it's really deleted most of the time. It's just freed. The data itself still lies on the harddisk.
[01:39] <TheSkorm> Fix file permissions the easy way sudo chmod -R 000 /
[01:39] <mrak> TheSkorm: what about config of shortcuts ?
[01:39] <XiXaQ> TheSkorm, free is an application that tells you about your memory usage. It's not a gui application, so you won't see anything at all.
[01:39] <Hobbsee> please *dont* do that
[01:39] <garethb> but surely if you delete a file then it is going to mess up an OS
[01:39] <garethb> even if it can later be retrieved?
[01:39] <Muelli> garethb: most likely, yes.
[01:39] <Shapeshifter> Hi. My update-manager seems to be "broken". For the last 3 weeks I always get the message that there are updates and this package of compiz-core should be updated. I'm already on a much newer version then the one stated in there, and if I update it just doesn't update this package. I tried autclean, purge, purge everything of compiz and reinstall it.... doesn't work, it still comes back as soon as I reinstall compiz. http://img237
[01:40] <garethb> so not a great idea?
[01:40] <XiXaQ> garethb, no, not surely. A normal user cannot delete a vital file.
[01:40] <Hobbsee> garethb: no, not a good idea.
[01:40] <garethb> so it depends whether you are logged in as root but isnt that what SU does anyway?
[01:40] <Muelli> Shapeshifter: the image link got lost. Please resend it :)
[01:41] <garethb> even if you are not logged in as root?
[01:41] <Hobbsee> garethb: effectively
[01:41] <Shapeshifter> Muelli: got lost?? http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/7818/screenshotupdatemanagercn4.png
[01:41] <garethb> so what was that command above
[01:41] <Muelli> Shapeshifter: yes. At least I couldn't see the link :)
[01:41] <garethb> it looked to me like a way to delete the whole system
[01:41] <garethb> it denied it anyway
[01:41] <Shapeshifter> Muelli: now you can? Link: http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/7818/screenshotupdatemanagercn4.png
[01:41] <DaffyDuck_> My sister has an USB wireless ethernet "card". The zd1211 driver seems to identify the device, and registers a wlan0. But it doesn't work. So I built a rt73.ko driver for an older kernel, and now I'm trying to build it again for ubuntu 7.04, but I can't seem to find out how to unregister the zd1211 and register the rt73.ko. Any hints?
[01:42] <Muelli> yes Shapeshifter. I can. Hang on :)
[01:42] <shiznit> hi
[01:42] <mrak> Shapeshifter: try u upgrade via sudo apt-get ?
[01:42] <DaffyDuck_> Oh, the rt73.ko does work.
[01:42] <Shapeshifter> mrak: yes I did
[01:42] <DaffyDuck_> I tried "modprobe -r zd1211rw", which doesn't return an error, but it doesn't seem to remove the driver.
[01:43] <Muelli> DaffyDuck_: you could try to "rmmod -f "
[01:43] <overclucker> garethb: rm, with options r is recursive, and f forced
[01:43] <DaffyDuck_> Muelli: Thanks. Will that make sure it won't be loaded on next boot, too?
[01:43] <garethb> Overclucker what are the differences?
[01:43] <overclucker> garethb: garethb man rm
[01:44] <mario> hola
[01:44] <garethb> thats a but like hard work :p
[01:44] <Muelli> DaffyDuck_: no. not at all. In order to make modules not to be loaded at boot time, there is /etc/modules.d/blacklist I think
[01:44] <Pici> !es | mario
[01:44] <ubotu> mario: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:44] <ruud> hello
[01:44] <Shapeshifter> mrak: Muelli: It doesnt matter if I update through the magaer or apt-get I'm always being asked if I want to install and in the end everything runs through but it doesn't change anything. btw I'm using amaranth's repos.
[01:44] <overclucker> well it doesn't ask you, and it removes directories recursively
[01:44] <DaffyDuck_> Muelli: Ah, that's what I figured. Thanks again.
[01:44] <mario> estoy solo probando
[01:45] <Muelli> Shapeshifter: hm. maybe there's the problem, but I don't know for sure.
[01:45] <Pici> mario: por favor escribe /j #ubuntu-es
[01:45] <cpcw> list
[01:45] <mrak> Shapeshifter: really i dont know
[01:46] <overclucker> does anyone know if rm -rf can run to completion?
[01:46] <overclucker> on / that is,
[01:46] <mrak> Shapeshifter: mayb its problem with packege
[01:46] <mrak> s/packege/package
[01:46] <stdin> overclucker: please drop it now, and don't repeat the command
[01:46] <overclucker> ok, ok
[01:46] <SilverWlf> Hi. There is a Remote Desktop Preferences in the control panel of Gnome. Is there a way i can start the vnc server for the session without being at the host?
[01:47] <overclucker> i'll try ##linux
[01:47] <Shapeshifter> mrak, Muelli: I know others using amaranths repos and they don't have this kind of problem. I'm not sure but I think the problem first showed up when I switched repos from tuxfamily to amaranth. of course now Im only using one, amaranth,. Is there a way to "clean" or "completely delete" everything related to the tuxfamily repos?
[01:50] <Muelli> Shapeshifter: Not that I know. I had that kind of problem myself long time ago. I was not able to solve it conveniently. Did you try an apt-get update? Then maybe apt-get install --reinstall compiz-foo..?
[01:51] <Shapeshifter> Muelli: I tried reinstalling, autoclean, purging and then installing...
[01:51] <Nikolas1994> Hello
[01:51] <Negra> How can I erase a directory in side home?
[01:52] <Negra> I do sudo rm -f Downloads but it wont erase it
[01:52] <Muelli> Shapeshifter: then try to comment you extra repositories. Just use the ubuntu one, apt-get update, apt-get install --reinstall compiz-foo
[01:52] <astro76> Negra, rm -r
[01:52] <astro76> Negra, no sudo
[01:52] <mechdave> Negra: rm -rv /home/the/dir/to/delete
[01:52] <Negra> ok ill try thhat
[01:53] <mechdave> Negra: also try looking at man rm
[01:53] <jrib> Shapeshifter: amaranth knows about the bug
[01:53] <Negra> that worked like a charm thank
[01:54] <d4t2ill4> hello
[01:54] <davidw> what's up with archive.ubuntu.com?
[01:54] <Shapeshifter> Muelli: compiz-fusion is now available through official repos?
[01:54] <Shapeshifter> jrib: ah k, so it might be fixed eventually
[01:54] <d4t2ill4> what can I use to play AVI/MKV files with sub titles?
[01:54] <p3t3> i have problem that my onboard soundcard with VIA KT133 chipset didnt detect on installation, any tips how to fix it ?
[01:55] <astro76> d4t2ill4, VLC
[01:55] <ikonia> Shapeshifter compiz-fusion is only part of gusty at the moment
[01:55] <danar> can someone help me with this? i keep getting this error from fsck: http://pastebin.com/d4b3c41eb
[01:55] <Shapeshifter> ikonia: i thought so
[01:56] <ikonia> danar thats not an error
[01:56] <trogdor> when ever I do apt-get anything I get stuck on us.archive.ubuntu.com even though I can ping it and everything else
[01:56] <ikonia> danar fsck -y /dev/sdb1
[01:56] <ikonia> danar: see how you get on
[01:56] <Pici> trogdor: seems to be having problems at the moment.
[01:56] <ikonia> trogdor you can try using another mirror, others are ok
[01:57] <trogdor> Pici: oh so its nothing on my end?
[01:57] <Shapeshifter> Pici: same for me with security.ubuntu.com.
[01:57] <danar> ikonia: sounds like an error... what does it mean then?
[01:57] <Pici> trogdor: Correct, its not just you.
[01:57] <ikonia> danar it got an inconsistant byte check with what it was expecting
[01:57] <ikonia> danar I also don't like checking non-native file systems under linux
[01:58] <ikonia> but thats only a personal thing
[01:58] <danar> ikonia: it's all i got, and i just got the same message
[01:58] <trogdor> Pici: was ubuntu in news/advertisement recently? perhaps just load of traffic
[01:58] <ikonia> danar what do you mean, its all you got ?
[01:58] <ikonia> danar why are you fscking it
[01:58] <danar> ikonia: linux is all i have
[01:58] <ikonia> danar why do you have a fat32 file system then ?
[01:59] <danar> cause i got some kind of write error on boot
[01:59] <danar> ikonia: 'cause i used to have windows a couple years ago
[01:59] <ikonia> danar what partition (mount point) is /dev/sdb
[01:59] <ikonia> danar so move the data off and then put a native linux file system on it
[01:59] <danar> ikonia: i'm on a livecd at the moment
[01:59] <Shapeshifter> Where are the apt packages being downloaded to? When apt-get upgrading it says (using .../compiz-core_1%3a0.5.2+git20070918-0ubuntu5~ppa1_i386.deb) where is that?
[01:59] <danar> ikonia: i haven't had the disk space to get rid of that partition
[01:59] <stdin> Shapeshifter: /var/cache/apt/archive
[01:59] <Negra> how can i manually remove an Azureoys 3.0.3.0 intallation that i manually intalled? I need to down grade it
[02:00] <Shapeshifter> stdin: k thx
[02:00] <ikonia> danar: what mount point is /dev/sdb at
[02:00] <Negra> i mean azureus
[02:00] <ikonia> danar: where do you normally mount it
[02:00] <Pici> Negra: how did you install it?
[02:00] <danar> ikonia: when i'm booted from the HD, as opposed to the livecd?
[02:00] <ikonia> danar yes
[02:00] <Negra> yes but manually no repo
[02:00] <danar> ikonia: /mnt/hdb1
[02:01] <ikonia> danar ok - so that shouldn't stop you system booting, so you may as well boot into ubuntu
[02:01] <stdin> Negra: if you installed a .deb, then you can remove it from synaptic or apt-get
[02:01] <drez> is it me or are the ubuntu fonts so big, i already set the to 9
[02:01] <ikonia> rather than work from a livecd
[02:01] <trogdor> drez: you can turn them down some or use another font
[02:02] <KenSentMe> Is there an easy tool to save a wmv stream on my system?
[02:02] <danar> ikonia: i got some kind of write error trying to aptitude update. i thought it was cause i ran out of space, so i freed some, but that wasn't it. so i booted to the livecd and get fsck errors
[02:02] <danar> ikonia: X did come up though
[02:02] <drez> trogdor: ok
[02:02] <Negra> it was no deb it was a tar
[02:03] <drez> was already going to do that
[02:03] <mrak> can anyone tell me how can i read file .pda ?
[02:03] <ikonia> danar 1.) aptitude is nothing to do with /mnt/sdb - so forget that
[02:03] <danar> ikonia: but i went to a virtual terminal without logging in to X, and i still got write errors
[02:03] <ikonia> danar 2.) mount your ubuntu disks now in the livecd and see what your disk space is like
[02:03] <jrib> KenSentMe: mimms if it uses the mms protocol or mplayer -dumpstream
[02:03] <KenSentMe> jrib, ok, thanks
[02:03] <danar> ikonia: i got similar errors when loading the livecd
[02:03] <trogdor> drez: do it... do it nOW
[02:03] <ikonia> danar your not making any sense
[02:03] <trogdor> drez: :P
[02:04] <danar> ikonia: ~700Mb
[02:04] <Nikolas1994> Some help please: i've download a game and i want now to run it but when i cd to it's directory and trying to run it through terminal it says directory not found
[02:04] <danar> ikonia: when i booted off the livecd it complained about buffer i/o
[02:05] <jrib> Nikolas1994: what game?
[02:05] <Nikolas1994> It's called Tibia
[02:05] <Ghismo> g' day guys
[02:05] <Nikolas1994> And i trust it lol,cause i play 2 years this game
[02:05] <Nikolas1994> it's a MMORPG
[02:05] <Ghismo> could anyone tell me where i can find the Cedega deb package form my feisty fawn
[02:05] <stdin> !cedega
[02:05] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[02:06] <ikonia> danar thats either a.) your chipset is a problem b.) your disk is having a hardware issue
[02:06] <danar> ikonia: i'm afraid it might be dying :(
[02:07] <ikonia> sounds possible
[02:07] <Menth> Ghismo, for cedega you either need to pay $5 a month to use it or install the cvs version i recommend wine ;)
[02:07] <danar> ikonia: but you're suggesting the CPU might be a problem?
[02:07] <Ghismo> thanks menth
[02:07] <ikonia> danar no, I said your chipset, eg: the chipset that controls your hardware, not cpu
[02:07] <jrib> Nikolas1994: pastebin the command and the error as well as the output of 'ls'
[02:07] <Ghismo> but i wish to run world of warcraft and it seems that cedega is the best emu at the moment
[02:07] <danar> ikonia: the hd controller
[02:07] <SpComb> Nikolas1994: pastebin the terminal commands/output
[02:08] <Nikolas1994> kk
[02:08] <ikonia> danar correct
[02:08] <Nikolas1994> bash: ./Tibia: No such file or directory
[02:08] <ikonia> Nikolas1994: is that file in the same directory and executable
[02:08] <danar> ikonia: so any drive i put in there would have the same problem?
[02:08] <Nikolas1994> Patch  Showerror  Tibia  Tibia.dat  Tibia.pic  Tibia.spr  Tibia.xpm
[02:08] <Nikolas1994> Yes it is
[02:08] <Menth> Ghismo, then you could try this link http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO%20Cedega%20CVS
[02:08] <Menth> and good luck
[02:08] <Ghismo> thanks menth
[02:08] <Ghismo> ;-)
[02:09] <tone3721> i cant seem to get my keyboard configured in the installation
[02:09] <ikonia> danar: no, if your hard disk conrtoller is incompatible you'll always have problem, so its more likley your hard disk is dying
[02:09] <jrib> !pastebin | Nikolas1994
[02:09] <ubotu> Nikolas1994: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:09] <tone3721> doesnt seem to be on the list
[02:09] <GuHHH>  i have a module for a sound card... (that there isnt on the kernel), so i have to recompile the kernel with support for this module... how can i do this?
[02:10] <Nikolas1994> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39630/
[02:10] <danar> ikonia: i guess it's my fault. it wasn't designed for heavy use, which i've been giving it. i should be thankful it's held up this long i suppose. thanks
[02:10] <tone3721> anyone know?
[02:11] <ikonia> tone3721 what is the problem
[02:11] <tone3721> it works until i make a selection from the list
[02:11] <tone3721> my keyboard
[02:11] <tone3721> on install
[02:11] <jrib> Nikolas1994: and 'ls -l'
[02:11] <tone3721> mine doesnt seem to be on the list
[02:11] <ikonia> tone3721 what doesn't work ?
[02:12] <tone3721> the arrow keys
[02:12] <ikonia> tone3721 when don't they work  ?
[02:12] <Nikolas1994> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39631/
[02:12] <Negra> how can i remove azureus that i manually intalled from a tar?
[02:12] <tone3721> right after i try to choose a keyboard from the list on install
[02:12] <ikonia> Negra rm each file manually or hope it had an uninstall routine in the make file
[02:12] <tone3721> they work fine before that
[02:12] <tone3721> even in the live cd
[02:13] <ikonia> tone3721 thats unusual, I wonder if your chosing the right keyboard (I don't know if its loaded dynamic)
[02:13] <tone3721> my specific board isnt on the list
[02:13] <Pici> Negra: Do you still have the tar?
[02:13] <rabbitwee1> how do you go into console mode? I need to disable x-server
[02:13] <tone3721> ive chosen the ones that are closest to it on the list most of em anyway
[02:14] <tone3721> kills arrows right after every time
[02:14] <tone3721> then i cant select up or down on install menu
[02:14] <jrib> Nikolas1994: 'L' not 'I'
[02:14] <Nikolas1994> it's l
[02:14] <Pici> Nikolas1994: lowercase l
[02:14] <kahrytan> rabbitwee1, why would you want to kill x-server. its your friend
[02:14] <Nikolas1994> ls -s
[02:14] <Nikolas1994> this is what i did
[02:15] <mechdave> rabbitwee1: ctrl + alt + F1
[02:15] <tone3721> anybody any ideas im using a logitech mediaboard?
[02:15] <Pici> Nikolas1994: pastebin the output of ls -l
[02:15] <Nikolas1994> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39631/
[02:15] <Nikolas1994> wait
[02:15] <Nikolas1994> wrong
[02:15] <user___> Hi, I have a question: To type a ^, I have to press the ^ key twice, because otherwise I get accents, like ^ and e is . In Debian I had to press the Compose key (Menu key) to get this behaviour: "Menu" + ^ + e = . IS there any way to make Ubuntu behave like that?
[02:16] <Nikolas1994> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39632/
[02:16] <Nikolas1994> this
[02:16] <mnuaimat> hi everybody, i have `mv`d the two files /etc/fstab and /etc/mtab , now after i login in single mode, i cant copy them back to thier propper location, the error message is "read only file system"
[02:16] <ikonia> mnuaimat yup
[02:16] <Muelli> user___: There probably is. Check System -> Settings -> Keyboard
[02:16] <mnuaimat> what shall i do ?
[02:16] <ikonia> mnuaimat you've moved them so the disks are moounted read only
[02:16] <autodidakt> hello, i got beryl but now every window opens in the backround. i am using ubuntu faisty and if i use gnome windows manager again every new window just comes up at the front as desired <-- sry i know this is not beryl support but maybe s1 has an idea cause i got no answer in [] beryl yet :)
[02:17] <mnuaimat> ikonia: yeah
[02:17] <ikonia> mnuaimat boot from the livecd, mount your ubuntu file systems manually and put the file's back
[02:17] <user___> I didn't find a suitable option. I tried "Layout Options" -> "Compose key position", but it didn't work as expected
[02:17] <danar> ikonia: i have one more issue. in nautilus, it says i have ~700Mb free, but gparted says i have 8Gb free...
[02:17] <tone3721> man.....
[02:18] <mnuaimat> ikonia: now after i reboot i can never copy them back to /etc , because even the '/' is not mounted
[02:18] <fevel> hello
[02:18] <mnuaimat> ikonia: thank yoooooooooooooooooooooooooou
[02:18] <mnuaimat> ikonia: i will try it
[02:18] <ikonia> danar parted probably means you have 8gb on the disk free while nautaulis means 700 meg on the file system
[02:18] <ikonia> mnuaimat no problem
[02:18] <mnuaimat> thank you ikonia, thank you open source people , thank you ubuntu,  i love you all
[02:18] <mnuaimat> bye
[02:19] <fevel> openoffice impress dowsnt let me change the layout of my slides. nothing happens when I click on "change layout". Can someone help me fix this issue?
[02:19] <danar> ikonia: it says /dev/sda1 has 8GB free
[02:19] <fevel> ubuntu 7.04
[02:19] <tone3721> man this is frustrating it worked fine on the live disk
[02:19] <Woet> How do you show all users via terminal?
[02:19] <ikonia> danar thats very unusual
[02:19] <user___> Muelli: Do you have an idea what else i could try?
[02:20] <JediMaster> hi all, I'm trying to format an external USB hdd and mkfs.ext3 is saying: /dev/sdg1 is apparently in use by the system; will not make a filesystem here!
[02:20] <danar> ikonia: yeh, i noticed it once before, but forgot
[02:20] <mechdave> Woet: users
[02:20] <JediMaster> I've checked and it's not mounted, can't figure out why it's having problems
[02:20] <jrib> Nikolas1994: does 'file Tibia' output anything?
[02:20] <danar> ikonia: i'm sure there's something wrong, but i'm not sure what to do
[02:20] <Nikolas1994> What do you mean?
[02:20] <danar> ikonia: fsck isn't helping
[02:20] <ikonia> danar stop referencing fsck
[02:21] <danar> ikonia: uh... just saying it didn't help. i don't know what else to use
[02:21] <ikonia> danar what else for what ?
[02:21] <danar> ikonia: i know, my disk is prolly dying, so it wouldn't help if that's the prob
[02:21] <jrib> Nikolas1994: do the command:  file Tibia
[02:21] <danar> ikonia: what else fixes file system & data errors on disks
[02:22] <Nikolas1994> Tibia: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
[02:22] <ikonia> danar it sounds like your hard disk is dead from what you where saying earlier
[02:22] <neopsych2> is there no way to cut/paste in an ftp client gui for linux???
[02:22] <ikonia> neopsych2 same as every other app
[02:22] <neopsych2> im using filezilla .. but it doesnt have that feature... gftp also doesnt .. is there a good gui with cut/paste?
[02:22] <Johncub> can anyone point me toward an application that will create dvd's?  Not rip or copy, but to create new dvd's that will work on home dvd video players.
[02:22] <Muelli> user___: There are several options. You could edit xorg.conf, use xmodmap, setxkbmap or the GNOME settings.
[02:22] <jrib> neopsych2: nautilus  for example
[02:22] <danar> ikonia: yeh, but it's still mostly functional. i'd like to try fixing this 8Gb issue if i can until i can replace the drive
[02:23] <ikonia> neopsych2 they can all cut an paste, middle mouse button for paste
[02:23] <neopsych2> ikonia Core FTP for windows allows cut paste in ftp directories
[02:23] <ikonia> danar I think your reading it wrong - or its beyond repair
[02:23] <ikonia> neopsych2 you can do that with drag and drop in gftp
[02:23] <neopsych2> when i right click.. there is no cut/paste optoin?
[02:23] <neopsych2> oh
[02:23] <ikonia> neopsych2 unix doesn't work like that
[02:23] <danar> ikonia: i'm pretty sure i'm reading it right. i figured it was that the system reserves some space
[02:23] <neopsych2> can i copy paste?
[02:24] <User____> could anyone tell me if I have a dedicated partition to /home... how many gb i need on the root partition to make it run smothly?
[02:24] <ikonia> danar you figured wrong, no reserved space, your disk is borked from what your saying
[02:24] <ikonia> User____ well, people seem to take up 4gb with apps, so anything above that seems reasonable for root, but you can do it smaller
[02:24] <neopsych2> can i copy a file into anew directory on ftp ?
[02:24] <danar> ikonia: erm, actually, this is a different drive *smacks forehead*
[02:24] <neopsych2> from same ftp
[02:25] <danar> ikonia: the 2nd drive is the fat32 one, which you were saying is dead
[02:25] <ikonia> danar check it with sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[02:25] <Engineer> hi all
[02:25] <leladia> pls how do i use grep to search for a space?
[02:25] <ikonia> danar stick it in a pastebin
[02:25] <User____> lol i thought that apps will go to home too :P... im such a noob i guess
[02:25] <jrib> leladia: grep ' '
[02:25] <ikonia> leladia you don't use grep to search for space
[02:25] <Pici> leladia: grep " " filename
[02:25] <JediMaster> ok never mind, I used cfdisk, deleted the partition, disconnected and reconnected the drive and created the partition, then I can forma it
[02:25] <JediMaster> +t
[02:25] <ikonia> User____ no - no apps to home
[02:25] <ikonia> Pici well spotted, I read that as "find some space"
[02:25] <Pici> ikonia: ah :)
[02:26] <danar> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/d49bd2735
[02:26] <User____> so home is exclusive to docs and configs of the users?
[02:26] <ikonia> Pici: nice update on the topic, thanks
[02:26] <ikonia> User____ user space
[02:26] <darkchr0n0s> anyone who can help me adjust LCD brightness on a Sony Vaio(VGN-CR14GN), the Fn keys don't work (i have been asking this Q from past 5 days :( )
[02:27] <Nikolas1994> jrib: there?
[02:27] <User____> ok ty very much for your help i guess ill give it 10 gbs to root and the other 90gb to home
[02:27] <user___> Muelli: I'm sorry, I can't find the option in "keyboard preferences"
[02:27] <jrib> Nikolas1994: yes
[02:27] <Nikolas1994> Tibia: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
[02:27] <Versus> Hi! I'm trying to install a desktop edition of ubuntu 7.04 on my P4 box. After pressing "Install with driver update CD" the system hangs in some 20-30 seconds. Any suggestions?
[02:27] <FliptBit> darkchr0n0s maybe look in the BIOS
[02:27] <ikonia> danar now mount /dev/sda1 and show me the output of "df -h"
[02:27] <Nikolas1994> jrib: here what i got by file Tibia
[02:27] <Muelli> user___: you have to select a different kyeboard layout.
[02:27] <darkchr0n0s> FliptBit : look in bios for ?
[02:27] <FliptBit>  ... but why oh why does my screen go dark after 10 minutes?  this should be simple but ... ?
[02:28] <firefoxman> Are all files in /etc/cron.daily read when cron starts?
[02:28] <FliptBit> darkchr0n0s - look for LCD brightness --- my Dell has those settings in the bios
[02:28] <ikonia> firefoxman they are read real time
[02:28] <leladia> pls how do i use grep to filter out files in my directory that start with a dot?
[02:28] <IdleOne> FliptBit: it would be in the screensaver settings where you set that option
[02:28] <JediMaster> is it possible to find out what speed a usb device is connected at? (e.g. usb 1 or 2?)
[02:29] <jrib> Nikolas1994: what if you do 'hash -r' and try './Tibia' again?
[02:29] <ikonia> leladia: that start with a .
[02:29] <danar> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/d2fbcb2b8
[02:29] <ikonia> leladia: ls won't show any files starting with a .
[02:29] <Nikolas1994> jrib: http://www.worldweather.org/034/c00129.htm
[02:29] <Nikolas1994> oops
[02:29] <JediMaster> ikonia: ls -al
[02:29] <Nikolas1994> jrib: bash: ./Tibia: No such file or directory
[02:29] <ikonia> JediMaster he didn't say he was using that
[02:29] <FliptBit> IdleOne -- yeah, i checked screen saver, power management, and EVEN turned off acpid and apmd services!!!
[02:29] <ikonia> Nikolas1994 show me ls -la Tibia
[02:29] <leladia>  ikonia: sorry i mean files that start with a dot (hidden files)
[02:29] <vlt> Hello. Yesterday I finally answered "yes" to adept-manager's question if I wanted to upgrade (from Edgy) to Feisty. The ~800 MB of updated were downloaded successfully and adpet began to configure the packages. After having answered two or three debconf questions I left and returned after 2 hours finding the machine frozen. GRUB menu.lst hasn't changed but the old sytem can't boot anymore. Booting from a live cd shows me the new kernel in /boot and _two_ initrd f
[02:29] <ikonia> danar you have 700 meg free
[02:29] <JediMaster> oops, wrong person, leladia: ls -al =)
[02:30] <Nikolas1994> -rwxrwxr-x 1 nikolasandreou nikolasandreou 5175944 2007-06-26 13:36 Tibia
[02:30] <leladia> ikonia: other files that are not hidden are not displayed
[02:30] <ikonia> leladia example ?
[02:30] <Johncub> FlipBit:  did you check the bios?
[02:30] <danar> ikonia: so it says. but why does gparted say i have 8Gb unused
[02:30] <tone3721> can anyone help?
[02:30] <ikonia> danar I think your not reading it correct, it may mean 8gb of the extended partition is free / unallocated
[02:30] <textchimp> hi, my ubuntu system isn't booting anymore... it seems like Grub isn't installed anymore... but if i boot off the CD i can still mount my hard disk's root partition
[02:31] <FliptBit> Johncub -- yeah, the power management settings in bios are good to go also.
[02:31] <ikonia> 13:49 < tone3721> can anyone help?
[02:31] <ikonia> oops
[02:31] <ikonia> tone3721 what is the problem
[02:31] <danar> ikonia: and it's not unpartitioned space either. there's a bar at the top that shows grey for unpartitioned space. there's none
[02:31] <leladia>  ikonia: i want to display the hidden files in my current directory without displaying other files (just the hidden ones)
[02:31] <FliptBit> I looked through blogs online and it seems other people have this issue too .... but no known solution as of yet
[02:31] <jrib> Nikolas1994: then I don't know
[02:31] <Johncub> FlipBit:  wish I could help more, that's all I could think of
[02:31] <JediMaster> textchimp: try: grub-install
[02:31] <danar> ikonia: hrm, one sec
[02:31] <Nikolas1994> jrib: huh? Do you think it might be my ubuntu's error?
[02:31] <ikonia> leladia there should be no hidden files that don't start with a dot
[02:31] <FliptBit> very frustrating when watching movies - and I want to image my disk but want to fix this first so its perfect :)
[02:31] <danar> ikonia: no, it says for /dev/sda1
[02:32] <IdleOne> FliptBit: report a bug on launchpad . give as much detail as possible.
[02:32] <Johncub> FlipBit:  understood, that would be a pain
[02:32] <ikonia> danar can you take a screen shot please
[02:32] <leladia>  ikonia: i know and i don't want those displayed in the result
[02:32] <FliptBit> IdleOne - thanx -- will do
[02:32] <jrib> Nikolas1994: probably not because ./Tibia works fine here
[02:32] <ikonia> leladia if you do ls it will show ALL files that don't start with a .
[02:32] <textchimp> JediMaster: from the liveCD?
[02:32] <Nikolas1994> jrib can you tell me step by step what you did?
[02:33] <danar> ikonia: know a good place to put it?
[02:33] <Nikolas1994> and where did you find it?
[02:33] <ikonia> danar image shack
[02:33] <JediMaster> JediMaster: yeah, it *should* be on there
[02:33] <Johncub> dvd burning question:  does anyone know of a free or non-free dvd authoring program to create dvd's from home movies that works with Dapper?
[02:33] <JediMaster> er what, lol
[02:33] <leladia>  ikonia: and...?
[02:33] <shiznit> is there a ventrilo clone for linux?
[02:33] <JediMaster> textchimp: yes, it should be on there =)
[02:33] <ikonia> leladia thats what you want - all files not starting with a .
[02:33] <ISOcrates> hey all.  i'm trying to install some stuff on gutsy but http://us.archive.ubuntu.com isn't responding at all.  can i use another server?
[02:33] <leladia>  ikonia: no, i want all files that start with a dot
[02:33] <stdin> !topic | ISOcrates
[02:33] <ikonia> ISOcrates: ubuntu+1 for gusty support but all check the topic
[02:33] <danar> ikonia: http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/1510/screenshotdevsdagpartedul4.png
[02:34] <ISOcrates> my b.  thanks
[02:34] <ubotu> ISOcrates: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[02:34] <jrib> Nikolas1994: downloaded file, tar xf FILE, cd Tibia, ./Tibia
[02:34] <ikonia> leladia ooh you just want to see all the files that start with a .
[02:34] <ISOcrates> yeah its been a while since ive been on irc.  sorry, thanks
[02:34] <JediMaster> ISOcrates: yes, I'm using gb.archive.ubuntu.com
[02:34] <leladia>  ikonia: yeah... :)
[02:34] <ikonia> danar loading
[02:34] <ISOcrates> thanks Jedi
[02:34] <ikonia> ls -la .*
[02:34] <Nikolas1994> jrib: i'm pm you =)
[02:35] <jrib> Nikolas1994: please use #ubuntu
[02:35] <danar> ikonia: i think they degraded the quality a bit
[02:35] <ikonia> danar: thats the extended partition
[02:35] <leladia> ikonia: let me try that
[02:35] <leladia> thanks
[02:35] <darkchr0n0s>  anyone who can help me adjust LCD brightness on a Sony Vaio laptop(VGN-CR14GN), the Fn keys don't work (i have been asking this Q from past 5 days :( )
[02:35] <Nikolas1994> jrib: where did you extracted it?
[02:35] <rabbitweed> I've been linuxing for over 12 hours now. one more try before I go to sleep:D how do I disable x-server? I restarted using alt-ctrl-f1 but appareantly x-server was till running. any idea
[02:35] <danar> ikonia: extended is underneath...
[02:36] <jrib> Nikolas1994: yes, in Desktop
[02:36] <ikonia> danar yes, and it has no sizes so its made up of the sda1
[02:36] <LjL> rabbitweed: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[02:36] <rabbitweed> muchos gracias
[02:36] <rabbitweed> wish me luck
[02:36] <danar> ikonia: extended is /dev/sda2...
[02:37] <lonran> it is psible to use a mac.com account to chat from any linux chat client?
[02:37] <leladia>  ikonia: its not working :(
[02:37] <ikonia> danar I don't hink your getting it
[02:37] <leladia> it is listing files that i don't need to see
[02:37] <ikonia> danar you've assigned a partition of 139 GIG -
[02:37] <ikonia> danar that means your file system of 139gig has 700 meg free
[02:37] <ikonia> danar but your disk has 8 gig unassigned
[02:37] <ikonia> danar strike that , I'm wrong
[02:38] <darkchr0n0s> anyone who can help me adjust LCD brightness on a Sony Vaio laptop(VGN-CR14GN), the Fn keys don't work (i have been asking this Q from past 5 days :( )
[02:38] <danar> ikonia: if that were true i'd have room to make a new partition
[02:38] <ikonia> danar I'm wrong - ignore that, I was reading it wrong
[02:38] <LadyNikon> darkchr0n0s: did you try posting in the forums?
[02:38] <riotkittie> darkchr0n0s: have you looked on the forums?
[02:38] <mike1o> I can load the ipw3945 driver but when I type iwconfig I can see no wireless extensions...
[02:38] <LadyNikon> riotkittie: :p
[02:39] <riotkittie> LadyNikon: hehe
[02:39] <darkchr0n0s> riotkittie , LadyNikon , i have searched onto forums.. haven't posted
[02:39] <LadyNikon> darkchr0n0s: i would post your question there as well
[02:39] <LadyNikon> loads more people use the forums over irc
[02:39] <danar> ikonia: are you having trouble reading the screenshot on imgshack? 'cause i am
[02:39] <overclucker> what version of coreutils does 7.04 use?
[02:40] <ikonia> danar it keeps changing size / scrolling, so it is a but of a struggle
[02:40] <ikonia> overclucker look for your self
[02:40] <ikonia> danar it ooks like your right and the actual disk size being reported is less than is usable
[02:40] <danar> ikonia: oh, i see. it was shrunk by firefox... i'm used to having that turned off, so didn't realize
[02:40] <shiznit> ikonia is the mvp of this channel
[02:40] <ikonia> shiznit mvp ?
[02:40] <overclucker> ikonia: i killed ubuntu with rm -rf / and am wondering why it didn't on another didtro
[02:40] <overclucker> distro
[02:40] <shiznit> most valuable player
[02:41] <danar> ikonia: so what does that mean?
[02:41] <tone3721> i guess ill have to use another distro if no one can help me
[02:41] <danar> ikonia: bad sectors? :(
[02:41] <shiznit> you dont follow sports
[02:41] <ikonia> overclucker depends what you mean and how it was deleted
[02:41] <ikonia> danar rounding errors perhaps ?
[02:41] <riotkittie> tone3721: what do you need help with?
[02:41] <erUSUL> overclucker: in any linux system if you do rm -rf as root you will kill your system
[02:41] <ikonia> danar I'm just guessing as fdisk seems ok
[02:41] <jrib> !info coreutils > overclucker
[02:41] <tone3721> my install
[02:41] <danar> ikonia: 8Gb of 'rounding errors'? this is supposed to be a 160Gb disk
[02:41] <erUSUL> overclucker: or if you do it as a user will erase all your data so it is the same
[02:41] <andy101> Does anyone know if there is a command to restart NetworkManager in Ubuntu Fiesty?
[02:41] <tone3721> keyboard acts funny
[02:41] <ikonia> danar yeah, but its rporting the disk as 147 gig -
[02:41] <ikonia> danar not 160
[02:42] <riotkittie> andy: networkmanager
[02:42] <overclucker> thanks jrib
[02:42] <danar> ikonia: yeh, i figured it was 'cause HD manufacturers like to use the GB/GiB thing
[02:42] <tone3721> when i run the live cd keyboard works great
[02:42] <ikonia> danar exactly
[02:42] <riotkittie> if thats not it, network<tab>
[02:42] <tone3721> it works fine up until i have to sleect ketboard from list on alternate install
[02:42] <genii> ikonia: Some bioses can't see 160Gb
[02:42] <danar> ikonia: but i don't see why gparted is saying i have 8GiB free...
[02:42] <ikonia> genii not in this case
[02:42] <tone3721> then the arrows dont work
[02:43] <tone3721> cant finish install
[02:43] <user___> Muelli: Thanks. I now use the "German eliminate dead keys" layout, with the compose key set to the menu key! Thank a lot!
[02:43] <user___> exit
[02:43] <user___> quit
[02:43] <ikonia> danar I think its the differece in how the disk announces itself (sectors heads) and whats really available, although I've never seen that before
[02:43] <tone3721> my keyboard doesnt seem do be on the list
[02:43] <danar> genii: this is the hd that came with the system
[02:43] <tone3721> anybody?
[02:43] <ikonia> danar if you look the "missing" 8 gig would make it 160 gig as it should be
[02:43] <riotkittie> how bizarre. what kind of keyboard? are you using some terribly abnormal keymap? like, say, klingon?
[02:43] <overclucker> ok, so here's the deal, i first tried rm -rf on a lfs system, and it gave me a message canot remove '/ ' so i tried it on ubuntu7.04 and it did remove /
[02:43] <shiznit> omg i love bittyrant
[02:44] <riotkittie> can you not tab between fields and hit enter?
[02:44] <textchimp> JediMaster: should i be running grub-install on something like /dev/sda3 as the install device?
[02:44] <genii> danar: Perhaps there is a locked-out partition, they do that on some systems where they hide the emergency setup things for windows. compaq especially does this
[02:44] <ikonia> overclucker depends whats running from where
[02:44] <danar> shiznit: have you tried deluge?
[02:44] <ikonia>         like /dev/sda3 as the install device?
[02:44] <ikonia> 14:02 < genii> danar: Perhaps there is a locked-out partition, they do that on
[02:44] <shiznit> negative
[02:44] <ikonia> oops
[02:44] <ikonia> oopsorry
[02:44] <illogic-al> hp too
[02:44] <danar> genii: i got the system without windows
[02:44] <ikonia> genii nah take a look http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/1510/screenshotdevsdagpartedul4.png
[02:44] <genii> Ok looking
[02:45] <stdin> !tab | ikonia, you look like you need it
[02:45] <ubotu> ikonia, you look like you need it: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[02:45] <overclucker> the reason is that 7.04 uses coreutils 5.97-5.2ubuntu3 and lfs uses coreutils 6.9, so there is a safeguard in 6.9 that 5.9 doesn't have
[02:45] <ikonia> stdin nah, its lag on my damn laptop thats causing pain
[02:45] <stdin> ikonia: you mean laaaaaaaaaag :)
[02:46] <ikonia> overclucker: where did it say there is a safeguard ?
[02:46] <grirgz> hi
[02:46] <overclucker> coreutils 6.9
[02:46] <ikonia> overclucker where does it say that
[02:46] <textchimp> can anyone help with grub-install?
[02:46] <stefg> I uninstalled some unwanted lang-support files (so the language support meta-package went away, too) No apt thinks, that *all* application specific lang-support files are unwanted dependencies and would remove them when i apt-get autoremove. Is there a way to 'reset' apts autoremove tracking ? Google turns up nothing , and i don't want to loose the ability to use autoremove later, because it...
[02:46] <stefg> ...will uninstall my language files.
[02:46] <overclucker> when i did rm -rf / on a system with coreutils 6.9 it said that
[02:47] <ikonia> overclucker where did it say there is a safeguard
[02:47] <grirgz> does someone know what mean the error "unknown date format" when i do "sudo apt-get update" ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39634/ (sorry, french version)
[02:47] <overclucker> ikona somewhere between coreutils 5.9 and 6.9
[02:47] <danar> stefg: erm, if you use aptitude to 'install' them, it'll mark them as wanted i believe...
[02:47] <atlfalcons866> when will gusty be released
[02:47] <Pici> atlfalcons866: ~Oct 18th
[02:47] <ikonia> overclucker answer the question, where did it say "there is a safe guard"
[02:47] <ikonia> overclucker or are you just assuming there is a safeguard
[02:48] <overclucker> ikonia: 'i' said it
[02:48] <ikonia> overclucker right - so its just your opinion
[02:48] <Pici> overclucker: I thought we were going to drop the discussion of that command in this channel?
[02:48] <d4t2ill4> Overclucker. nice nick
[02:48] <joshjosh> is the security repo down?
[02:48] <ikonia> Pici done
[02:48] <Pici> joshjosh: yes, see the topic.
[02:48] <overclucker> right, off-toppic
[02:48] <danar> that explains that
[02:48] <joshjosh> Pici, thanks.
[02:48] <stefg> danar: aptitude ... hmm. i just went to reinstall all packages that were marked as 'autoremove' in synaptic, but that didn't change anything. Will try aptitude...
[02:48] <ikonia> Pici I'm only interested as he's referncing LFS and I don't think he realised that I wrote the coreutils chapter for LFS
[02:48] <Pici> ikonia: Neat :)
[02:49] <ikonia> apologies
[02:49] <overclucker> oh, lol did i?
[02:49] <ikonia> he caught me of guard
[02:49] <ikonia> overclucker no - I did
[02:49] <danar> stefg: you don't need to reinstall, that'll redownload them
[02:49] <overclucker> nope
[02:49] <overclucker>  it's coreutil 6.9 chapter 6.16
[02:49] <danar> stefg: just tell aptitude to 'install' and it'll basically do nothing, but mark them as wanted
[02:49] <FliptBit> join #help
[02:49] <FliptBit> damnit
[02:49] <ikonia> overclucker I know - I wrote it
[02:49] <stefg> danar: i already did out of curiosity, my bandwidth is cheap enough for that :-)
[02:50] <danar> stefg: apt-get doesn't bother with it except for autoremove, but aptitude keeps track of that stuff
[02:50] <overclucker> ikonia: lol
[02:50] <overclucker> ikonia: so .. .
[02:50] <delfick> hello, does anyone know if it's possible to boot a usb (or floppy that then boots that usb) without access to the bios of a computer that doesn't have floppy as a priority before the harddrive ?? :D
[02:50] <delfick> so I can boot my liveusb at uni :D
[02:51] <overclucker> wow isn't this great
[02:51] <tone3721> well another distro it is i guess
[02:51] <danar> ikonia: so any ideas on the 8GB thing?
[02:51] <ikonia> danar stumped, what did genii say
[02:51] <qazibasit> hi
[02:51] <chris3141> Hi.
[02:51] <qazibasit> how are you friends?
[02:52] <qazibasit> hi
[02:52] <qazibasit> howz life and ubuntu going?
[02:52] <chris3141> Is there any place you can put scripts so they are executed on start of gdm
[02:52] <danar> ikonia: uh, nothing
[02:52] <vinboy> hi
[02:52] <qazibasit> hi vinboy
[02:52] <vinboy> how do I make my fonts look like fedora's?
[02:52] <danar> ikonia: said he was gonna look at the screenshot, then nothing
[02:52] <qazibasit> sorry chris no idea
[02:52] <Kopfgeldjaeger> hi
[02:53] <qazibasit> download the fonts vinboy
[02:53] <vinboy> fedora's font is smoother. maybe not as sharp
[02:53] <danar> ikonia: thanks anyway. guess i need a new system more than i thought :P
[02:53] <vinboy> qazibasit: i actualyl use the same fonts on both installations
[02:53] <overclucker> ikonia: so is there another reason that it wouldn't rm -rf / in lfs?
[02:53] <vinboy> with same settings too
[02:53] <ikonia> danar never seen that
[02:53] <danar> same
[02:53] <ikonia> overclucker: inappropriate to discuss here
[02:54] <danar> ikonia: you don't think it might be bad sectors?
[02:54] <chris3141> Any ideas?
[02:54] <ikonia> danar thats LOT of bad sectors
[02:54] <overclucker> ahh
[02:54] <overclucker>  right
[02:54] <kevinly> wrt partitions and primary versus logical?
[02:54] <ikonia> kevinly parimary you can only have 4 logical you cah have 16
[02:54] <danar> ikonia: had some strange issues with windows before... marked some bad sectors when the fs corrupted... thats when i switched to linux :P
[02:55] <genii> ikonia , danar My boss came by for a minute to talk. back now. I am suspecting the geometry mapping as possible culprit, or else (not likely) low-level formatting found that much mad physical damage
[02:55] <chris3141> Oh, I think I found it in /etc/gdm/Init/Default. Thanks anyway
[02:55] <dennda> archive.ubuntu.com down?
[02:55] <kevinly> i'm going with 4gb for winxp,60 ntfs,10gb ext3, 2gb swa  and the reset fat32
[02:55] <kevinly> which should be logical?
[02:55] <ikonia> genii I'm included to agree
[02:55] <ikonia> inclined
[02:56] <kevinly> and "root file system@ is what
[02:56] <danar> genii: if it is the geometry, how would i fix that?
[02:56] <qazibasit> i am having problem loading ubuntu
[02:56] <qazibasit> it says that there is some ACPI problem
[02:56] <kevinly> jsut looking for best practice for partitions for linux/xp dual boot
[02:56] <danar> genii: if not, what might cause so much physical damage? heat from running too long?
[02:56] <qazibasit> and IRQ allocation problem
[02:56] <genii> danar: In most bios you can set options like: map as large,comaptible,LBA or similar
[02:56] <qazibasit> any idea
[02:56] <danar> genii: it's set to lba
[02:57] <genii> danar: Most drives ship with some amount of physical damage, normally we don't notice because the amount is to teeny
[02:58] <danar> genii: well i don't remember it ever being close to the advertised 160Gb
[02:58] <genii> danar: For bios mapping i like to use Normal if that is an option, or sometimes they also have "Use Partition Table"
[02:58] <atlfalcons866> my computer lost power last night could i have lost some data
[02:58] <danar> genii: maybe it _did_ ship with 8Gb trashed :-/
[02:58] <danar> genii: i'm guessing there's nothing i can do then, except replace the drives?
[02:59] <grirgz> Does someone know what mean the error "unknown date format" when i do "sudo apt-get update" ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39634/ (sorry, french version)
[02:59] <ikonia> grirgz sounds like the server your getting from presents date in a difference format
[02:59] <genii> danar: Well, you may want to try experimenting a bit in the bios mapping to see if it makes any diference. try to pick something that doesn't make number of heads fall on 1024
[03:00] <grirgz> ikonia: what should i do ?
[03:00] <danar> genii: alright, i'll poke at that and see if it helps. thanks
[03:00] <elkmann> Hi! how can I teach programs using kdelibs to use firefox instead of konqueror when they load an URL?
[03:00] <chris3141> hi, it's me again. /etc/gdm/Init/Default doesn't work. Any ideas which file I have to edit to excecute something on start of gdm?
[03:00] <ikonia> grirgz never seen it, don't know
[03:01] <kadakas> will a laptop usb light work with Ubuntu out-of-the-box ?
[03:01] <hendrixski> how can I find my Mac address from Ubuntu?  the bottom of my comp is illegible?
[03:01] <atlfalcons866> my computer lost power last night could i have lost some data
[03:01] <erUSUL> hendrixski: ifconfig -a iface
[03:01] <danar> genii: hey, here's something weird...
[03:01] <chris3141> ok, i'll try /etc/gdm/Xsession ...
[03:02] <hendrixski> thanks erUSUL
[03:02] <erUSUL> atlfalcons866: never happened to me but it could be
[03:02] <qazibasit> no atlfalcons866
[03:02] <atlfalcons866> even though i used ext2
[03:02] <danar> genii: in gparted, if i click more info on it, it says the last sector is a wee bit higher number than total sectors
[03:02] <qazibasit> ubuntu is a system which supports ACPI and it never lost data in case of power failure
[03:02] <hendrixski> erUSUL, it worked :-) you rock
[03:03] <atlfalcons866> is it ext2 or ext3 that is journaled
[03:03] <erUSUL> ext3
[03:03] <genii> danar: No idea :)
[03:03] <atlfalcons866> how can i convert ext2 to ext3 then
[03:03] <danar> blargh
[03:03] <danar> well, thanks anywa
[03:03] <genii> AFK 3-4 minutes, work needs me
[03:03] <danar> y
[03:04] <erUSUL> atlfalcons866: why you used ext2 in the first place??
[03:04] <leladia> pls, do this ls -al | grep -v `ls -l` ?
[03:04] <ikonia> leladia ?
[03:04] <erUSUL> atlfalcons866: http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/ext2toext3.htm
[03:04] <d4t2ill4> i am using an IBM laptop, and i am having problem getting the sound to work... what should i do first?
[03:04] <erUSUL> !sound | d4t2ill4
[03:04] <ubotu> d4t2ill4: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:04] <danar> ikonia: gparted is giving me the same error that fsck was
[03:04] <erUSUL> d4t2ill4: also
[03:04] <leladia> ikonia: i am trying to filter out files that are not hidden from the hidden files
[03:05] <erUSUL> !intelhda | d4t2ill4
[03:05] <ubotu> d4t2ill4: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[03:05] <ikonia> leladia gparted launches fsck
[03:05] <ikonia> oops
[03:05] <erUSUL> leladia: ls -l will give you the list you want
[03:05] <ikonia> gparted launches fsck
[03:05] <danar> ikonia: i switched to the 2nd disk in gparted, and there's a little warning symbol, with that error
[03:05] <jrib> leladia: just do  ls -dl .*
[03:06] <grirgz> bye
[03:06] <leladia> erUSUL: i don't want to display the none hidden files. what i want is to display only the files that are hidden
[03:06] <djm62> I'm on an expensive download connection - how can I get automatic updates to stop automatically downloading, using up my pre-paid time and kicking me offline?
[03:06] <erUSUL> leladia: do as ikonia pointed out
[03:06] <leladia>  jrib: let me try it and see, thanks
[03:06] <ikonia> djm62 click no when asked if you want to update
[03:06] <erUSUL> leladia: ohn it was jrib
[03:06] <d4t2ill4> I have an old laptop, I think it is using an Crystal Sound
[03:07] <djm62> ikonia: when the update icon appears, it already seems to have downloaded (the wee orange one with the star in it)
[03:07] <ikonia> djm62 its not
[03:07] <ikonia> it downloads the list of available updates, thats it
[03:07] <danar> djm62: run synaptic. there's a setting to turn off automatic updates
[03:07] <Whitor> Hi, I'm trying to make an icopn that will execute a command for me.... rather than opening a terminal and typing it in everytime I reboot... I've created an icon with the command "compiz --replace && emerald --replace &" in the launcher tab. (minus the quotes) but it isn't working...
[03:07] <Whitor> why?
[03:07] <Nikolas1994> How do i download wine?
[03:07] <elkmann> does my question not fit in here?.. how can I teach programs using kdelibs to use firefox instead of konqueror when they load an URL?
[03:07] <Whitor> icopn = icon
[03:08] <ikonia> elkmann you'll get better response in #kubuntu as more kde users in there
[03:08] <danar> Nikolas1994: it should be in the add/remove apps
[03:08] <pike_> Nikolas1994: sudo apt-get install wine    unless you need a specific version
[03:08] <erUSUL> elkmann: i do not use kde but i'm sure there is some place to configure preferred apps
[03:08] <elkmann> but I'm using gnome, just some kde progs..
[03:08] <djm62> danar: I want automatic updates, I just want to get on a proper connection to download them.  When I click the orange icon, it updates successfully despite me not being online, which suggests the packages are already downloaded - or have I got the wrong end of the stick?
[03:08] <ikonia> elkmann preferences preffered aplications, but as I say the kde users in #kubuntu may be better
[03:09] <ikonia> djm62 thats what you've got
[03:09] <pike_> elkmann: im sure its in ~/.kde somewhere :)
[03:09] <leladia>  jrib: thanks. i am trying to break down your answer so that i can do some little modification to it
[03:09] <elkmann> alright
[03:09] <danar> djm62: did you check the setting? it's configurable
[03:09] <ikonia> djm62 auto updates downloads the list of updates only
[03:09] <qazibasit> i dont like kubuntu
[03:09] <elkmann> thanks anyway!
[03:09] <leladia> jrib: and maybe get a different flavor of it.  i really appreciate
[03:09] <danar> djm62: it tends to download the updates in the background. security ones anyway
[03:09] <pike_> kde always seems little clunkier but its good for like media boxes on tvs
[03:09] <danar> djm62: but you can tell it not to
[03:10] <leladia> jrib: thanks
[03:10] <IdleOne> djm62: System > administration > Synaptic package manager the click on the Updates Tab and select the Only notify Option
[03:10] <IdleOne> gottago have a good day
[03:10] <stefg> danar: FYI, even using aptitude didn't fix it. seems i have to let apt do its stupid thing and install all the stuff manually and explicitly after.... bug reporting time...
[03:10] <whonicca> does anyone upload to rapidshare?  do you have problems when click on upload?
[03:10] <d4t2ill4> thank you erUSUL
[03:10] <erUSUL> d4t2ill4: no problem did you get sound now?
[03:11] <d4t2ill4> I am downloading the dev tools now
[03:11] <danar> stefg: hrm. sometimes it works, sometimes not. it was worth a shot
[03:11] <d4t2ill4> erUSUL: not yet but I am reading through the guide now
[03:12] <danar> stefg: if you use apt-get though, you don't have to autoremove stuff
[03:12] <d4t2ill4> This new version of Ubuntu is so easy to use.
[03:12] <d4t2ill4> 7.0.4
[03:12] <danar> stefg: or was it aptitude, i forget now. one of them will try to force to to remove 'unwanted' stuff on upgrading & such. the other won't
[03:13] <danar> d4t2ill4: wait until gutsy :)
[03:13] <danar> d4t2ill4: oct 18th
[03:13] <cow_band_drumer_> hai
[03:13] <djm62> IdleOne: you just saved me a fair bit of cash :) thank you.  For those googling, that's System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager:Settings->Repositories->Updates
[03:13] <stefg> danar: sure, i don't /have/ to, but as said before, i don't want to sacrifice that feature. of course i want to autoremove all unwanted deps if i purge a package, but for sure not my language support
[03:13] <d4t2ill4> danar, is that a good expression ?
[03:13] <danar> stefg: if you want to, then use aptitude
[03:14] <danar> d4t2ill4: ?
[03:14] <eidolon> hi folks, is there a problem with archive.canonical.com this morning?  having a hard time getting my GPG signatures running updater.
[03:14] <danar> djm62: i already told you that, lol
[03:14] <stdin> eidolon: seen the topic?
[03:14] <Pici> eidolon: Yes, theres an issue, see the topic.
[03:14] <djm62> danar: I knew there was an option, I just couldn't find the damn thing - thank you for your help
[03:15] <d4t2ill4> danar, so it would be much simpler to use with Gutsy version ?
[03:15] <eidolon> ah, gotcha, thank you.
[03:15] <danar> d4t2ill4: maybe not much simpler, but it's an improvement. and there are things like a GUI for configuring X and such, so some things are 'simpler', yes
[03:16] <d4t2ill4> well i am quite happy 7.04, its so much faster even on a 500Mhz laptop
[03:16] <danar> d4t2ill4: which means a non command-line application for configuring graphics options and such
[03:16] <danar> d4t2ill4: i think gutsy will be more efficient
[03:16] <d4t2ill4> danar, that's good!
[03:17] <danar> indeed
[03:17] <danar> d4t2ill4: it's due on the 18th
[03:17] <d4t2ill4> danar, I remember trying to get wireless working I had to install a few connection manager program just to avoid cli
[03:17] <annoybot> Lalalala I can't hear you, danar..
[03:17] <annoybot> Lalalala I can't hear you, d4t2ill4..
[03:17] <danar> wtf? lol
[03:18] <amadeux> How can I get write access to NTFS partitions on Feisty?
[03:18] <Mortice> !ntfs-3g | amadeus
[03:18] <ubotu> amadeus: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[03:18] <danar> d4t2ill4: i don't use wireless, so i can't speak to that, but lots of things will be improved
[03:19] <d4t2ill4> If I can get my sound working and able to play mkv, I'd be very happy
[03:19] <djm62> oh- while I remember, is there a simple way to share my wired internet connection using my wireless card? if not, reasonably complicated will do: only needs to be with one machine, winXP
[03:19] <d4t2ill4> I wonder how come ubuntu don't automatically install codecs?
[03:20] <Pici> !codecs | d4t2ill4
[03:20] <ubotu> d4t2ill4: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:20] <danar> d4t2ill4: codecs.... legal/patent issues
[03:20] <Tomcat_`> djm62: Check the arno-iptables-firewall package & website... it is complicated though.
[03:20] <genii> Back
[03:21] <d4t2ill4> danar, I see
[03:21] <genii> danar: Get anywhere on recovering the 8G?
[03:21] <danar> genii: nope
[03:21] <djm62> Tomcat_`: thank you - I'll check it out
[03:21] <danar> genii: i haven't rebooted yet though, so i didn't play with the bios yet
[03:22] <genii> danar: I suspect if any settings will make it available, some drive mapping in there
[03:22] <danar> genii: i was busy trying to be helpful :P
[03:22] <danar> genii: yeh. it's about my last resort.
[03:22] <grjemo> I am trying to put ubuntu on to my windows sp2 pc. I put the disc in, but when I turn it on it says, missing operating system. What do I do?
[03:23] <danar> genii: well, i'll try that now. i'll let ya know
[03:25] <Kenny3> i got ubuntu ultimate 1.4 vmware image. when i try to open network>host comouter name it says "The folder contents could not be displayed" why?
[03:25] <ikonia> Kenny3: ubuntu ultimate is not supported
[03:26] <Kenny3> not supported by what?
[03:26] <Mortice> Kenny3: this channel.
[03:26] <ikonia> the ubuntu commuinty does not support ubuntu ultimate as it is not an ubuntu product
[03:27] <italian_spike> hi
[03:27] <pacmanfan> conventional wisdom has said that when you change motherboard chipset or video card drivers it's best to reinstall Windows... is this the case with Ubuntu too?
[03:27] <leladia> pls i don't really understand what the -d option stands for in ls command
[03:27] <italian_spike> i removed some pckgs but when i grep they are still there
[03:27] <leladia> can some pls explain this to me?
[03:27] <italian_spike> how do i update my installed package list?
[03:27] <grjemo> Can anyone help me?
[03:28] <genii> updatedb
[03:28] <Kenny3> but ubuntu ultimate is based on ubuntu, isnt it...
[03:29] <ikonia> Kenny3 it is not made or support by the ubuntu commmunity
[03:29] <Mortice> Kenny3: ubuntu is based on debian, but you won't get support for ubuntu from the debian community :)
[03:29] <student002> I can't install anything from terminal but I can from synaptic
[03:29] <student002> how do I fix this?
[03:30] <Tomcat_`> student002: What are you doing in Terminal to install stuff?
[03:30] <genii> leladia: ls -d shows the directory names and not what's in the directories
[03:30] <Mortice> student002: could you be more specific? What commands are you using on the terminal?
[03:30] <student002> sudo apt-get install pkg
[03:30] <praet> student002: [sudo apt-get install packagename] 
[03:30] <Kenny3> so anyone know ubuntu ultimate channel name?
[03:30] <Pici> student002: If you are trying to download from the archive servers and its not working, please see the topic.
[03:30] <student002> I think it's cause I'm behind a proxy
[03:30] <grjemo> Thanks /sarcasm
[03:30] <italian_spike> i still get a list of installed stuff i don't have
[03:31] <student002> it keep saying could not connect to http.us.debia.org connection refused
[03:31] <leladia> genii: thanks and when i add the argument .* to the end (ls -d .*) what would that mean?
[03:31] <student002> but when I got synaptic it works just fine
[03:31] <Pici> !ask | grjemo
[03:31] <ubotu> grjemo: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:31] <Mortice> grjemo: sorry, it seems your question got missed
[03:31] <Tomcat_`> student002: Debian? Did you mess with the packaging system? ;)
[03:31] <Mortice> grjemo: have you confirmed that there's something on the CD when you open it in windows?
[03:31] <student002> it's been doing this ever since I installed ubuntu which was like 2 months ago
[03:32] <student002> tomcat, I put in a debian repository into sources.list
[03:32] <student002> I thought maybe that would fix it
[03:32] <grjemo> I am trying to boot with it. I burned it according to the instructions.
[03:32] <Tomcat_`> student002: No, it will break stuff.
[03:32] <Kenny3> lets say i would hav ubuntu, what would i do then with my problem?
[03:32] <genii> leladia: That would mean to show all hidden directory names (hidden names begin with .)
[03:32] <student002> oh
[03:32] <Nikolas1994> Hello
[03:32] <Mortice> grjemo: yes, I know, but it may not have burnt properly. So I'm asking you to check the CD from within windows.
[03:32] <Pici> Kenny3: You got a vmware image that Ubuntu Ultimate distributed correct?
[03:32] <Nikolas1994> I have run the game i wanted to run but the graphics are really f*cked up
[03:33] <Pici> !ohmy | Nikolas1994
[03:33] <ubotu> Nikolas1994: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:33] <grjemo> Okay. How?
[03:33] <Nikolas1994> ok
[03:33] <Nikolas1994> sorry lol
[03:33] <Nikolas1994> Any idea why it happens?
[03:33] <Kenny3> Pici: ya
[03:33] <Mortice> grjemo: put the CD in while running windows and open it from My Computer
[03:33] <student002> Tomcat_`, how do I make terminal know that I'm behind a proxy
[03:33] <praet> Kenny3: did you set up networking?
[03:33] <elektronisch> say i have a lan connection and a wifi connection, is there a way to switch which one I want to use using the console.  i do not want to ifconfig <interface> down the device, i just want to switch what all applications will default to
[03:33] <Tomcat_`> student002: No idea really... there is some way though.
[03:34] <Tomcat_`> student002: Google for "bash proxy" or "apt proxy" or something.
[03:34] <praet> Kenny3: in vmware i mean. host networking over nat networking
[03:34] <grjemo> Okay just wait.
[03:34] <Pici> Kenny3: Okay, how exactly do you think we can support that?  They take ubuntu, make modifcations to it, and then distribute their own modified copy in a distribution method that we dont use.
[03:34] <vlt> elektronisch: man ip
[03:34] <student002> cause w/out that my other computer can't install anything..all I can use on that is terminal "gnome" doesn't start up
[03:34] <italian_spike> how do i get rid of extra stuff in my grep?
[03:34] <vlt> elektronisch: set a new default route
[03:34] <Kenny3> praet: yes, its bridged...
[03:34] <elektronisch> vlt: how do i do that
[03:34] <djm62> italian_spike: what do you want rid of?
[03:34] <Nyle> good morning
[03:34] <Mortice> italian_spike: you mean you've got a long list of results and you only want to see some of them?
[03:35] <Nyle> how many more days to gusty ubuntu
[03:35] <genii> italian_spike: You mean the cache of sored install files in /var/cache/apt/archives ?
[03:35] <Mortice> !ubuntu+1 | Nyle
[03:35] <genii> *stored
[03:35] <Pici> Nyle: 18th.
[03:35] <Tomcat_`> Nyle: 13 days
[03:35] <ubotu> Nyle: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[03:35] <nicoAMG> Hello!
[03:35] <Mortice> slowcoach, ubotu :P
[03:35] <Kenny3> Pici: i understand...
[03:36] <Nikolas1994> I have run the game i wanted to run but the graphics are really messed,any idea why?
[03:36] <bratao> Hi, i have a nptl application, what the command to run it ?
[03:36] <GNine> your advice of using metacity , worked , Jordan_U .
[03:36] <leladia> genii: hidden directory names or its hidden content?
[03:36] <italian_spike> i mean that i've uninstalled stuff (compiz) and when i run  dpkg -l | grep compiz it's still there
[03:36] <ikonia> bratao: ntpl is a thrading model - not a command
[03:36] <praet> Kenny3: I would go through the vmware networking options and then try networking that machine again.
[03:36] <genii> italian_spike: To clean the cache out,   sudo apt-get clean       to update where the system thinks files are: updatedb
[03:36] <GNine> (that was yesterday)
[03:36] <nicoAMG> I have a basic server with ubuntu, and it uses Software RAID with SATA drives
[03:36] <Kenny3> praet, i shall use NAT for networking?
[03:37] <bratao> ikonia, i downloaded a application with ntpl extention, how i run it ?
[03:37] <ikonia> bratao ubuntu uses nptl - so its not a problem
[03:37] <italian_spike> non of those worked :(
[03:37] <grjemo> Argh. Windows is being screwy. Would it work in safe mode?
[03:37] <genii> leladia: In that case, since -d used, Just directory names. Altho the . and .. are in linux special when it comes to listing them, so you will also see listings of files from the directory above the one you are listing
[03:37] <Mortice> grjemo: lol. Probably. :)
[03:37] <Pici> !windows | grjemo
[03:37] <ubotu> grjemo: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[03:38] <bratao> ikonia, im complety windows user. Im at ubuntu shell , i need to know what the command to run it
[03:38] <Kenny3> praet: well, i can surf web when bridged, but i try the others
[03:38] <Mortice> Pici: I've asked grjemo to look at his recently-burnt ubuntu install cd from within windows to confirm it's correct
[03:38] <Mortice> Pici: so it's not really windows support.
[03:38] <genii> leladia: ls -d also shows the files, just that when it hits directories it shows only the directory name and not whats inside them
[03:38] <nicoAMG> I want to monitor the drive's healt using SMART, but smartctl doesn't recognize the HDD drives as SMART enabled devices
[03:38] <djm62> grjemo: have you got another machine you can try it in, or another liveCD to try in that machine?
[03:38] <Pici> Mortice: Ah. Okay, sorry about that :)
[03:38] <ikonia> bratao ./$command
[03:38] <grjemo> Yes, I have a working machine.
[03:38] <Mortice> Pici: not a problem - hard to keep track in here :)
[03:38] <grjemo> I'll do it now.
[03:38] <bratao> Many thanks !
[03:38] <nicoAMG> What can i do to fix it? :-/
[03:39] <leladia> genii: okay...
[03:39] <ikonia> bratao no problem
[03:39] <leladia> genii: is it the pwd that we are talking about there?
[03:39] <genii> leladia: to see which ones are files and which are directories, use also -l
[03:40] <student002> how do I use different repositores?
[03:40] <genii> leladia: pwd is current/working directory. So wherever you issue the ls command
[03:40] <grjemo> It doesn't show the file itself, but there is no free spave on the disk and it is 697mb in size.
[03:40] <grjemo> space*
[03:40] <ikonia> student002 change your sources.list file or use the "manager sotware" gui in "administration" drop down
[03:40] <leladia> genii: thanks
[03:40] <Kenny3> praet: only bridged shows the computers of the network the other configs not. also only with bridged internet works.
[03:40] <Mortice> grjemo: so there are no files showing at all when you open the CD?
[03:40] <genii> leladia: np
[03:41] <student002> ikonia, I have sources.list open..not sure what to do in it
[03:41] <grjemo> None.
[03:41] <Mortice> grjemo: if that's the case, it sounds like you've burnt a coaster :(
[03:41] <italian_spike> so what do i need to do to tell apt those packets are removed??
[03:41] <Mortice> grjemo: I'd suggest trying again
[03:41] <ikonia> student002 why / what do you want to change in the repo's
[03:41] <grjemo> Arg. this is my third time. Okay.
[03:41] <Mortice> grjemo: what software are you using to burn it?
[03:41] <student002> ikonia, the topic says that the main and us repos are down..use different ones
[03:41] <ikonia> student002 ahhh I see, which ones are listed in your sources.list
[03:41] <Kenny3> praet: maybe it cant read the contents there because its ntfs?
[03:42] <genii> italian_spike: When you removed them, 1) did you use a package manager to install them 2) did you use a package manager to remove them
[03:42] <Mortice> grjemo: and if it's hassle, it might be an idea to order a CD from canonical for the low, low cost of $0
[03:42] <bratao> ikonia, i run the application but it run in sheel , there is a way to run it as "service" ?
[03:42] <italian_spike> genii: yes i did
[03:42] <italian_spike> genii: i used synaptic
[03:42] <student002> all the us, a cds.uwo.ca, and download.tuxfamily.org
[03:42] <erUSUL> bratao: on te background? run it with a & at the end $ app &
[03:42] <ikonia> student002 I think those are ok
[03:43] <student002> but I can't get anything
[03:43] <ikonia> bratao follow erUSUL's suggestion
[03:43] <genii> italian_spike: If you did not do --purge then there will be remnant of the configuration files the program uses but not the actual app itself. Perhaps this is what you are seeing
[03:43] <Imsdle> does anyone know if you can enable an ipod touch though linux
[03:43] <italian_spike> genii: ok, whats the command to run purge?
[03:43] <bratao> erUSUL, works ! Thanks again
[03:43] <Nikolas1994> Does ubuntu got installed those things when it's installed:
[03:43] <erUSUL> bratao: no problem
[03:43] <Nikolas1994>     * Linux with libc version 6 or later
[03:43] <Nikolas1994>     * X-Window system installed
[03:43] <Nikolas1994>     * Hardware accelerated graphics driver
[03:43] <Nikolas1994>     * 32 MB free hard disk space
[03:43] <Nikolas1994>     * A connection to the internet
[03:43] <ikonia> Imsdle thats a new question, I guess gtkpod would still work
[03:44] <grjemo> Hmm... I don't know if I can afford that. I'm burning now. I'll order if it doesn't work. By the way, my crappy pc started up.
[03:44] <Pici> !paste | Nikolas1994 please dont do that
[03:44] <ubotu> Nikolas1994 please dont do that: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:44] <Nikolas1994> Sorry Pici ^_^
[03:44] <erUSUL> Nikolas1994: yes (well the bit about Hardware accelerated graphics driver depends on your hardware
[03:44] <student002> when I try to download something it says failed to fetch http://download.tuxfamily.......Cannot initiate the connection to 80:80 (0.0.0.80)
[03:44] <Nikolas1994> How can i know if it's installed?
[03:45] <student002> I'm behind a proxy did I export it wrong?
[03:45] <Mortice> grjemo: lol. Good luck with this attempt then.
[03:45] <Kenny3> praet: r u there?
[03:45] <italian_spike> genii:how do i purge?
[03:45] <erUSUL> Nikolas1994: what bit? the graphic drivers?
[03:45] <Mortice> grjemo: also, please prefix your message with the nick of the person to whom it's addressed. This channel moves very quickly, and it's easy to miss responses.
[03:45] <Nikolas1994> yes
[03:45] <Instabin> !cu
[03:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:46] <grjemo> Nortice: okay
[03:46] <erUSUL> Nikolas1994: which hw card do you have ati/nvidia other?
[03:46] <laspace> KILLS THE WORLD
[03:46] <Nikolas1994> nvidia
[03:46] <laspace> xD
[03:46] <laspace> xD
[03:46] <laspace> Xd
[03:46] <laspace> XD
[03:46] <laspace> XD
[03:46] <laspace> XD
[03:46] <laspace> XD
[03:46] <laspace> XD
[03:46] <laspace> XD
[03:46] <ikonia> !ops
[03:46] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[03:46] <erUSUL> !nvidia | Nikolas1994
[03:46] <ubotu> Nikolas1994: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:46] <genii> italian_spike: Normally I would use apt-get for that,eg:  sudo apt-get remove --purge <name>
[03:46] <ikonia> Pici: sorry didn't notice youstill wake
[03:46] <tanath> genii, well, my bios says the drive has 160GB available...
[03:46] <laspace> spam
[03:46] <laspace> spam
[03:46] <laspace> spam
[03:46] <laspace> spam
[03:46] <laspace> spam
[03:46] <genii> Sorry for lag, working here
[03:47] <genii> italian_spike: I'm sure aptitude has that feature but offhand the syntax/way to call it I dunno
[03:47] <Kenny3> is ubuntu xmas edition like ubuntu only more software?
[03:48] <ikonia> Kenny3 its nothing to do with ubuntu
[03:48] <italian_spike> genii: doesn't work cuz it just says the pkg isn't installed so it can't remove it
[03:48] <Pici> Kenny3: They are all 3rd party versions, just like Ultimate is.
[03:48] <grjemo> Nortice: It burned. Aha! It eorked. Ill try now. Thank you
[03:48] <Mortice> grjemo: hehe. nice one. By the way, I'm called Mortice. :P
[03:48] <Mortice> grjemo: good luck! Sorry it's been hassle for you.
[03:49] <genii> italian_spike: Try also with that --force-yes
[03:49] <SpiderPig> any tips on good security apps to install on ubuntu? i already have rkhunter any others i should get?
[03:49] <genii> italian_spike: or -f
[03:49] <grjemo> Mortice: Okay. lol. Thanks. I'll stay on the channel incase it screws up
[03:49] <danar> genii, i checked my bios settings on boot, and it says the drive is 160Gb, as advertised, but my system says much less
[03:49] <Mortice> genii: -f isn't the same as --force-yes for aptitude. -f fixes broken packages.
[03:50] <alok_> Hi,does anybody knows how to setup a nickname in freenode here?
[03:50] <danar> genii, dunno what's up with the 8Gb
[03:50] <Mortice> alok_: /msg NickServ help
[03:50] <fabio> somebody knows as to configure charset for iso-8859-1?
[03:50] <erUSUL> !register | alok_
[03:50] <ubotu> alok_: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[03:50] <genii> Mortice: Ah, thanks :)
[03:50] <Mortice> alok_: follow ubotu's advice rather than mine. Didn't know he had a factoid for that :)
[03:51] <alok_> hey thanx for dat too!! -:)
[03:51] <vlt> Hello. What does "The program 'apt-get' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing: apt-get install apt" in the Feisty CD boot process mean?
[03:51] <danar> lmao
[03:52] <ikonia> vlt sounds like your install went wrong
[03:52] <genii> danar: Yes, it's a puzzler. There used to be some 1024 limit but i can't remember if it was referring to headss,cylinders what. I have had to set bios to "Use Partition Table" on some systems for linux to install properly. I dunno what the equiv may be in yours
[03:53] <danar> genii, i didn't see that option anywhere
[03:53] <vlt> ikonia: I think the CD I boot from has some errors. ... but a very funny idea installing apt using apt ... ;)
[03:53] <danar> genii, but it was reporting the right size just fine
[03:54] <danar> vlt, you can have discs shipped to you for free
[03:54] <danar> !shipit
[03:54] <ubotu> shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will send Feisty (7.04) CDs
[03:54] <vlt> danar: Thanks. The iso on my disk seems ok so I just have to burn it again.
[03:54] <fabiim> hi , i was installing an application then the application started to download some necessary data in order to install , I've cancelled the install and force quit on the package managing install . Now when i run synaptic they  say E: The package secondlife-install needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[03:54] <fabiim> E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report.
[03:55] <fabiim> what should I do ?
[03:55] <danar> vlt, make sure your drive isn't dusty or something :P
[03:55] <grjemo> I'm going to order a disk. I'm having more trouble.
[03:55] <tarzan> hi... is cupsys broken in gutsy right now?
[03:55] <vlt> The reason why I'm booting from the CD is a failed upgrade from Edgy to Feisty using adept-manager. Seems as if it stopped while rebuilding initrd. Any idea how to fix it?
[03:55] <Mortice> grjemo: sorry to hear that. Still, at least when you order one it comes in a pretty cardboard sleeve :)
[03:56] <Pici> tarzan: yes, please see #ubuntu+1 and the topic there.
[03:56] <tarzan> thx
[03:56] <grjemo> Mortice: Thanks for the help.
[03:56] <Mortice> grjemo: no problem. Sorry we couldn't find a fix. Good luck with ubuntu when you get it installed, and you know where to come for help. :)
[03:57] <Mahariya> is there "last access time" thing for files and folders?
[03:57] <Mahariya> in ubuntu
[03:58] <netsrot> Mahariya: yes
[03:58] <erUSUL> Mahariya: yes it is called atime
[03:58] <Mahariya> can this be disabled?
[03:59] <miked> hello
[03:59] <genii> bah
[03:59] <erUSUL> Mahariya: yes you can mount fs with "noatime" option
[03:59] <Mahariya> erUSUL: how do I do that?
[04:00] <Cyber_Stalker>  how do i sort out my sound
[04:00] <Cyber_Stalker> its so selective
[04:00] <Cyber_Stalker> some times it works
[04:00] <Cyber_Stalker> other times it doesnt
[04:00] <erUSUL> Mahariya: add noatime to the options colummn in /etc/fstab
[04:00] <miked> does anyone know how to mount a disk image in ubuntu? the disk image mounts in Osx fine, but not in linux.  I have no idea what the FS is, its a virtual partition for ghost solution suite 2
[04:00] <Cyber_Stalker> !sound
[04:00] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:00] <danar> my gparted is taking forever to scan devices
[04:00] <erUSUL> Mahariya: man fstab and man mount
[04:00] <dbrewer_rjr> i just installed feisty fawn. What is the command to auto-install security updates?
[04:01] <Crozar> WEIRD PROBLEM! my cd - r / rw ( DRIVE ) cant read what was burned.     [ 1stly i burned a cd either way ( music / data/ iso ) all have a completed successful burning process but after the eject i check for file integrity and my drive keeps flashes on and off making a sound prrrrrrrr tik tik tiktiktik tik tik prrrrr again adn again  and then no media mounted , its like im using windows 3.1 on next generation cd's :/ any help please
[04:01] <danar> dbrewer_rjr, there's an option for it in synaptic
[04:01] <erUSUL> miked: how are you trying to mount it
[04:01] <miked> with mount
[04:01] <miked> some progress
[04:01] <danar> dbrewer_rjr, System > Admin > Synaptic
[04:01] <kristjan_> does ubuntu come with "gnomebaker" by default?
[04:01] <theMuss> Hi, just setting up my ubuntu box - got dual monitors running through an ATI radeon 9550 using the radeon driver. Everything works fine except the desktop effects I get the error message "Desktop effects could not be enabled". Any ideas, thanks.
[04:01] <erUSUL> miked: mount over a loop device?
[04:01] <dbrewer_rjr> danar: where is that? /etc/synaptic? i am running the server version with ispconfig
[04:01] <miked> i did an fdisk on the imge to see the partitions  and its showing one with fat16
[04:02] <miked> yes mount attempt with a loopback
[04:02] <Mahariya> hey, what are differences between KDE and Gnome?
[04:02] <dbrewer_rjr> danar: i am not running the gui
[04:02] <danar> dbrewer_rjr, synaptic is a front-end
[04:02] <erUSUL> miked: mount -t auto -o loop /path/to/image /mount/point  ??
[04:02] <jumar> With automatix you can install gnomebaker and other good apps in ubuntu.
[04:02] <Crozar> Mahariya: kde = like windows easy its feeling is like windows too ,
[04:02] <Pici> !automatix | jumar
[04:02] <ubotu> jumar: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[04:02] <netsrot> dbrewer_rjr: you could use aptitude
[04:02] <danar> dbrewer_rjr, yeh, i don't know where the config for that option is stored, sorry
[04:02] <jumar> it's an easy "installator"
[04:02] <miked> erUSUL: yeah i thought that would work but it chokes on the fs type
[04:02] <Crozar> Mahariya: Gnome = feeling of Linux and Mac in same time a new feeling =)
[04:03] <Pici> jumar: Its bad code, please don't suggest it and read what ubotu said above.
[04:03] <miked> im guessing there is some other crap
[04:03] <jumar> okay
[04:03] <Mahariya> Crozar: so which is better?
[04:03] <miked> OSBOOT.IMG1   *           1           3       24066    4  FAT16 <32M
[04:03] <dbrewer_rjr> what is the command to install security updates in feisty fawn server, no gui, running ispconfig?
[04:03] <danar> jumar, yeh but it can break things
[04:03] <Crozar> lol just get UbuntU it has both inside =)
[04:03] <miked> thats the parition info from the disk image
[04:03] <miked> but wont mount with -t vfat
[04:03] <Mortice> !best | Mahariya
[04:03] <ubotu> Mahariya: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[04:04] <LDS_Trooper> Greetings!
[04:04] <Crozar> Mahariya: with UbuntU 7.10 Beta you will have Gnome enabled Automaticly but if u want to change to kde its through the start up login press options change session then choose kde and set default
[04:04] <miked> i might have to find an offset value for the partition?
[04:04] <Crozar> Mahariya: 9ayma =p
[04:04] <LDS_Trooper> Which hand helds work best with Ubuntu?
[04:04] <Mahariya> but which desltop is good for what
[04:04] <Mahariya> *esktop
[04:04] <Mahariya> *desktop :)
[04:04] <Crozar> Mahariya: ur female right lo?
[04:04] <erUSUL> miked: i think you will have to use the offset option to loop mounts to make it skip the partition table,mbr etc and mount the actual partition
[04:04] <Pici> Mahariya: They are both good, why dont you try both?
[04:04] <Mortice> Mahariya: it really makes little difference. It's a matter of personal preference.
[04:05] <Pici> Crozar: That is offtopic.
[04:05] <Crozar> Mahariya: KDE is good if your new to linux
[04:05] <onkelalex> oO
[04:05] <Crozar> ok brb
[04:05] <erUSUL> miked: i dunno what numbers of bytes you should use though
[04:05] <miked> erUSUL: yeah thats what im thinking exactly
[04:05] <miked> erUSUL: i think fdisk will show me
[04:05] <miked> trying now
[04:05] <Mahariya> Crozar: why u said I am fmale?? :)
[04:05] <bodzasfanta> hi,
[04:05] <bodzasfanta> gutsy beta is so good
[04:05] <netsrot> dbrewer_rjr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto?action=show&redirect=AptGetHowTo
[04:05] <erUSUL> miked: google around a bit someone may have done this already
[04:05] <alkinnu> So LDS Trooper, is LDS for Latter Day Saints?
[04:05] <bodzasfanta> i've just finished the installation
[04:06] <miked> http://edseek.com/~jasonb/articles/linux_loopback.html#id2494200
[04:06] <miked> yep
[04:06] <bodzasfanta> just one question
[04:06] <Pici> bodzasfanta: #ubuntu+1 for gutsy discussion please.
[04:06] <bodzasfanta> okay
[04:06] <LDS_Trooper> It is, but I am here to find out which hand held or Palm Pilot I should get that is most compatible with Ubuntu
[04:06] <dragon33> hi, is anyone else having problems with the update servers?
[04:06] <dragon33> as in unable to connect?
[04:06] <Pici> !hcl | LDS_Trooper this might help you
[04:06] <ubotu> LDS_Trooper this might help you: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[04:06] <Mahariya> so what's the difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu if Ubuntu has both desktops?
[04:06] <genii> danar: Something about your issue here: http://justlinux.com/forum/showthread.php?t=126139   you may want to try the suggestion to free up the 5%
[04:07] <Pici> Mahariya: The only difference is what packages are in the default install.
[04:07] <murkyMurk> dragon33: US server is down/slow according to ubuntu+1 topic
[04:07] <alkinnu> gotcha...just curious
[04:07] <LDS_Trooper> Me too =)
[04:07] <miked> BOOM
[04:07] <Pici> Mahariya: Kubuntu has KDE, Ubuntu has Gnome.
[04:07] <miked> linux is the man
[04:07] <dragon33> thanks murkyMurk
[04:07] <SpiderPig> any apps i need to install to make linux more secure?
[04:07] <danar> genii, sounds very similar, though the numbers are a bit different... how'd you find that?
[04:08] <miked> erUSUL: FYI, i just had to use fdisk to see the starting sector for the partition (skiping part table, mbr, etc), in this case 63, convert to bytes, x512
[04:08] <LDS_Trooper> Does anyone here use something like a Palm Pilot that is compatible with their Ubuntu desktop?
[04:08] <miked> then used that number for the loopback offset
[04:08] <genii> danar: googling :)
[04:08] <Mahariya> Pici: so I can easilly start Gnome in Kubuntu? or do I have to download it?
[04:08] <danar> genii, duh :P
[04:08] <danar> genii, i was wondering what you searched for :P
[04:08] <Pici> Mahariya: You will need to download the gnome packages, but its very easy.
[04:08] <LjL> LDS_Trooper, i don't, but i think a Palm Pilot *can* be connected to Ubuntu fine. IIRC, there is even a preferences module installed by default.
[04:09] <erUSUL> miked: yes i've read the link you kindly shared with us ;)
[04:09] <mzuverink> I just ran chkrootkit and it reported nothing except for a curious line regarding the last test, the test for 'z2' it reports "user root deleted or never logged from lastlog!"  Now is this normal behavior w/ Ubuntu because of sudo or some more sinister?
[04:09] <LDS_Trooper> LjL, Thanks!
[04:09] <Mahariya> what does the Ubuntu DVD contain?
[04:09] <livingdaylight> is Ubuntu Horny Heron out due any day now?
[04:09] <danar> genii, aha... i thought so. some is reserved: "up to 200gb 5% is reserved for the superuser"
[04:09] <genii> danar: exact search contained:   ext3 147Gb 160Gb                     in the search
[04:09] <Pici> livingdaylight: Its 'Hardy' Heron, and no, not until April 2008
[04:10] <LDS_Trooper> I really don't want to buy something that won't work well with Ubuntu and let's face the guy at the store will be clueless about Ubuntu
[04:10] <danar> genii, well, gparted is saying it's 149GB, iirc
[04:10] <livingdaylight> Pici, Hardy? you sure?  i thought it was due now? :s
[04:10] <danar> genii, but yeah, same type of prob
[04:10] <Mortice> livingdaylight: gutsy gibbon is due out on the 18th.
[04:10] <genii> danar: The numbers seem to add up, anyhow. As i said you may wan to try what is there for freeing up the su reserved 5%
[04:11] <Mahariya> what does the Ubuntu DVD contain? and how much does it cost?
[04:11] <livingdaylight> Mortice, Mel Gibbson is due on the 18th?
[04:11] <Pici> livingdaylight: Gutsy Gibbon (7.10) is due on the 18th of October.  FYI, release version numbers are made up by taking the year and month of release:  7.10 = 2007, month 10
[04:11] <LDS_Trooper> Thanks all!
[04:11] <unimatrix9> any one that runs ubuntu on an macbook here?
[04:11] <murkyMurk> LDS_Trooper: J-Pilot package is supposed to be compatible wth the Palm Pilot
[04:11] <genii> danar: I still have your screenshot up, there gparted says: 147.61Gb
[04:11] <danar> genii, it has a commend to set it to 0, but i'm wondering what it is for say 2%
[04:12] <genii> danar: i dunno, but manpages are useful ;)
[04:12] <danar> genii, i just had it running on my system, and i recall it saying 149
[04:12] <danar> genii, ...sometimes :P
[04:12] <unimatrix9> whens 8.10 due to come out?
[04:12] <danar> unimatrix9, in a year
[04:12] <unimatrix9> ah
[04:12] <unimatrix9> i see
[04:12] <Pici> unimatrix9: It hasn't been announced yet.
[04:12] <Imsdle> is there anyway I can get itunes to work through wine? I want to get my new ipod touch working and don't have an xp installation handy
[04:12] <danar> unimatrix9, 8 is the year. .10 is the month
[04:13] <danar> unimatrix9, next version (gutsy) is coming out on the 18th though
[04:13] <genii> unimatrix 8=2008 10=tenth month of 2008 eg: Oct
[04:13] <Dr_willis> makes ya wonder why they just dont use a date on them then. :)
[04:13] <danar> (7.10)
[04:13] <unimatrix9> frankscorner has some insights on wine
[04:13] <GhettoYhetti> Time for a easy question??? . . . hope so . . . here I go
[04:13] <Dr_willis> Ubuntu 2008.10
[04:13] <danar> Dr_willis, it kind of is
[04:13] <jshriver> greetings
[04:13] <Elda> Hello
[04:13] <danar> Dr_willis, date & version number in one :)
[04:13] <jshriver> is there a way for tar to tar up some files flatly? not preserving directory structure?
[04:13] <GhettoYhetti> any pitfalls to look out for when installing on notebooks?
[04:14] <unimatrix9> wine and itunes http://frankscorner.org/
[04:14] <Mahariya> is anybody answering me please
[04:14] <genii> Dr_willis: Yes, even to the day, so 7.10 would be: 2008.10.18
[04:14] <Dr_willis> danar,  and eveyrone uses the 'cute' animal name..
[04:14] <jshriver> GhettoYhetti: yeah wireless drivers
[04:14] <livingdaylight> GhettoYhetti, don't drop it in the bathtub
[04:14] <Elda> !ansers | Mahariya
[04:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ansers - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:14] <Elda> !answers | Mahariya
[04:14] <danar> Dr_willis, easier to differentiate
[04:14] <ubotu> Mahariya: Answers to various questions can be found at http://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[04:14] <Elda> Errr no tthe one I wanted
[04:14] <Elda> *not
[04:14] <Mortice> !patience | Mahariya
[04:14] <ubotu> Mahariya: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:14] <Mortice> that one?
[04:14] <Mahariya> lol
[04:14] <Elda> There we go/1
[04:14] <unimatrix9> who owns a macbook and runs ubuntu?
[04:14] <Aishiko> hello, I have a prob with gusty (first major issue) it's become unstable after my last set of patches, I just did a scan and repair of every filesystem, should that fix it?
[04:14] <Elda> Bah Im tired and my typing stinks
[04:14] <Mortice> !gutsy | Aishiko
[04:14] <ubotu> Aishiko: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[04:15] <Aishiko> ahhh sorry didn't know
[04:15] <livingdaylight> I propose new Ubuntu code name: Ubuntu Perspicacious Penguin
[04:15] <Mahariya> can I ask the same question again until I get answer?
[04:15] <Mortice> Aishiko: not a problem. Now you do :)
[04:15] <unimatrix9> ah cool name
[04:15] <mzuverink> Those people at Best Buy irk me, they booted me from the store with money in hand to buy a new desktop system, just because I was rebooting the machines i was interested in off a Ubuntu Live CD!  What jerks!
[04:15] <danar> Aishiko, gutsy is due on the 18th. might want to wait until then
[04:15] <murkyMurk> Mahariya: your answers are all to be found at www.ubuntu.com
[04:15] <jshriver> mzuverink: lol that sucks
[04:16] <unimatrix9> goblin Gnu , would be nicer though
[04:16] <Dr_willis> mzuverink,  did you at least ask first? :)
[04:16] <Pici> !offtopic
[04:16] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:16] <overclucker> livingdaylight: that will be available when?
[04:16] <mzuverink> Anyone know of a big box that allows this type behavior?
[04:16] <unimatrix9> oh, yes sorry offtopic
[04:16] <unimatrix9> :)
[04:16] <Pici> mzuverink: #ubuntu-offtopic please
[04:16] <livingdaylight> overclucker, i 'm just proposing that it'd be a nice name, imho
[04:16] <murkyMurk> unimatrix9: goblin gnu is a sex act isn't it?
[04:16] <jshriver> mzuverink: well it's probably a security issue
[04:16] <livingdaylight> unimatrix9, gnu goblin is cool
[04:16] <unimatrix9> cant comment , offtopic
[04:16] <Elda> Anywhoo, can somone help me with lm-sensors?  For some reason it will not detect my sensors when I do lm-sensors, and sensors show that none are detected.  But I do have a log of my attempt to install lm-sensors
[04:17] <Elda> So also what would be the adress for pastebin?
[04:17] <kst> what clipboard is running in ubuntu by default? when i type xclipboard in bash it tells me some clipboard is already running..
[04:17] <erUSUL> !sensors | Elda
[04:17] <ubotu> Elda: You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[04:17] <Mortice> !paste | Elda
[04:17] <ubotu> Elda: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:17] <twoshadetod> is there a apt-get command to reset a application to it's default state? or any type of command to do this?
[04:17] <overclucker> murkyMurk: yeah it would rock, but how would gnu take it?
[04:17] <mzuverink> Dr_willis, I waited 15 min first for help, even flagged several employees down and they all said they would be with me in minutes, I got impatient, I only had a few minutes, it too bad, I had 3 grand to spend.  Then of course I had to explain the live cd concept to them
[04:18] <Mortice> twoshadetod: you could try 'apt-get --purge remove' and then install it again
[04:18] <erUSUL> twoshadetod: romove --purge and then install again?
[04:18] <livingdaylight> !pasta
[04:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pasta - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:18] <Pici> mzuverink: livingdaylight overclucker: Can you take this to #ubuntu-offtopic, this channel is only for support.
[04:18] <unimatrix9> youcould reinstall an package
[04:18] <overclucker> sorry
[04:18] <danar> genii, man page doesn't seem helpful in this case
[04:18] <livingdaylight> Pici, no worries
[04:18] <unimatrix9> but the conifgs are saved as hidden files in your home dir , press crtl + h
[04:18] <mzuverink> Pici, did you just call me a livingdaylight overclucker?
[04:18] <DudeD> Livingdaylight .za
[04:19] <Pici> mzuverink: perhaps :p
[04:19] <unimatrix9> carefull what you delete there
[04:19] <unimatrix9> :)
[04:19] <Elda> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39639/  And yes, I've tried looking at that page for help :>
[04:19] <mzuverink> Pici, funny if you did, might change my nick
[04:19] <mzuverink> anyone use chkrootkit?
[04:20] <twoshadetod> Mortice, erUSUL : thanks alot I'll give that a shot right now
[04:20] <Elda> It just wont open for me
[04:20] <LjL> mzuverink: sometimes.
[04:20] <jshriver> what if you handcrafted a bootable CD with tons of network intrution
[04:20] <jshriver> exit
[04:20] <mzuverink> LjL, did you see my post a few lines up about z2 test?
[04:20] <LjL> mzuverink: no. hold on a second, i'll look
[04:20] <unimatrix9> hee macbook users , are you here?
[04:20] <unimatrix9> :)
[04:21] <mzuverink> LjL, none of my other Ubuntu Boxes do that
[04:21] <Incompetnce> Hi, can anyone help me with a TexMaker problem I have? I've just started it and tried quickbuild on a test document I wrote. it said "no log file found !"
[04:21] <sexcopter> i'm downloading a whole bunch of updates this morning and noticing that speeds are slow, presumably the repositories are under a big load. just wondering if people have considered a kind of bittorrent system to get updates, which would then fall back to the main server if it failed...?
[04:22] <unimatrix9> sexcopter : would that not be even slower?
[04:22] <murkyMurk> sexcopter: for security updates? no thanks
[04:22] <JEFFmasterFlex> sexcopter:  i'm thinking comcast users might havea problem with that
[04:22] <Dr_willis> sexcopter,  thers some project that does that ive heard.. but not sure how popular it is.
[04:22] <danar> torrents would be less secure
[04:22] <Elda> http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/Devices  Is this page not loading for anyone else?
[04:22] <LjL> jsuther: i don't think it's possible with tar itself. you could use a little shell script, i assume.
[04:22] <sexcopter> unimatrix9: when i download cd images for ubuntu it's nice and quick with bittorrent
[04:22] <Dr_willis> If you have a home lan. you can set up one box to be a update/apt-cacher machine.
[04:22] <unimatrix9> true security is the main issue on that..
[04:22] <sexcopter> i'm just thinking that battlenet does something like that, i think
[04:23] <Dr_willis> Many MMORPG games do a similer thing sexcopter
[04:23] <osku> yeah wow updater too
[04:23] <murkyMurk> sexcopter: bittorent is designed to be quick or the user but to reduce load on the server
[04:23] <sexcopter> hmmm, ok. was just a thought!
[04:23] <LjL> mzuverink: perhaps it simply means that, on that box, you never logged in as root with "sudo -i", while on the other boxes you did.
[04:23] <Aishiko> danar: I would but it's the only version that supports my hardware (I tried 5.* to 7.04 first) and I've been running it fine for well over a month as I said this is my first major issue :) so I'm chaulking this up in the win cat.
[04:23] <mzuverink> sexcopter, then you would have to manually install them or write a script to do it, plus then all the security problems that would result.  Best to just wait a bit and dl updates during different odd hours
[04:23] <Dr_willis> if companies would supply more mirrors.. :)
[04:24] <Rageon> my ISP hosts ubuntu files on their ftp.. but they count towards my cap :<
[04:24] <mzuverink> LjL, I have NEVER logged in that way on any of the boxes, and I can su on all of them?
[04:24] <osku> You are doing ubuntu updates and they are lagging? Cant you change at least the country code from the repositories to make it faster if possible? :D
[04:24] <LjL> mzuverink: you can 'su'?
[04:25] <mzuverink> LjL, yes, makes some thing easier
[04:25] <danar> Aishiko, well, then just keep updating until the 18th :P
[04:25] <LjL> mzuverink: like what?
[04:25] <comicinker> hi! mayme somebody can help me?
[04:25] <danar> Aishiko, well, don't stop then... you know what i mean
[04:25] <comicinker> when I open a textfile, follwoing errormessage occurs: No application suitable for automatic installation is available for handling this kind of file.
[04:25] <Rageon> mayme comicinker, you mayme get lucky :D
[04:26] <osku> You know, i dont know why people are scared of linux :<
[04:26] <Aishiko> ohh I'm not just trying to get it working at 100% again  until then :) and I've been updating regularly
[04:26] <Pici> comicinker: is the fix set with the executable flag?
[04:26] <LjL> mzuverink: i get  Checking `z2'... chklastlog: nothing deleted , for the record
[04:26] <comicinker> oh, of corse I mean maybe
[04:26] <vlt> Hello. What's the name of the tool I can shrink a file system (ext3) with?
[04:26] <mzuverink> LjL, I come from a Mandriva background and its force of habit and a bad one at that, i know, so if you wish you may scold me, but I am old and set in my ways
[04:26] <Rageon> course u did, but typos give me chances to contribute!
[04:26] <Rageon> :)
[04:26] <unimatrix9> vlt gparted ?
[04:26] <Pici> vlt: parted or gparted, but it needs to be unmounted first.
[04:26] <danar> so what's up with the update servers? is it just heavy load?
[04:26] <comicinker> pici: you mean that the file is executable?
[04:26] <vlt> vlt: resize2fs
[04:26] <mzuverink> LjL, thats what my other boxen say
[04:26] <LjL> mzuverink, i just can't see what's different between typing "su" and typing "sudo -i". you could even alias "su" to "sudo -i" if you wanted to...
[04:26] <Dr_willis> danar,  yes.  thats what i hear.
[04:27] <Pici> comicinker: It sounds like it from that error message.
[04:27] <LjL> mzuverink: have you tried rkhunter too?
[04:27] <unimatrix9> vlt :back up first
[04:27] <se-agapo> what is new in the 7.10 ?
[04:27] <danar> why so much load? never seen it like this before
[04:27] <LjL> !gutsy > se-agapo    (se-agapo, see the private message from Ubotu)
[04:27] <comicinker> which file needs to be executable?
[04:27] <Dr_willis> danar,  lots of gutsy updates I hear.
[04:27] <unimatrix9> backups are alway's an good thing to do
[04:27] <miked> how can i create a bootable cd iso?
[04:27] <danar> any problems with them?
[04:27] <Pici> comicinker: Nono, I mean it sounds like the file is an executable, which is why you are having problems opening it in a text editor
[04:27] <vlt> unimatrix9: Yes, it's just a qemu image ;-)
[04:27] <Mahariya>  so what extra does Ubuntu DVD contain? I didn't find answers :-)
[04:28] <unimatrix9> oh hehe
[04:28] <comicinker> the file has the name "copyrigth" and I can read it with nano
[04:28] <shearn89> Mahariya: i didn't know you could get a dvd?
[04:28] <LjL> Mahariya: just about the entire Main repository, i think.
[04:28] <devilsreject> hola everybody
[04:28] <mzuverink> LjL, sudo times out, sometimes Im all ire and lose track of time and sit around in the middle of a system maintence operation, it avoids me having to type out my 12 digi password again, and I only do it from a true shell
[04:28] <comicinker> but I cannot open it from nautilus
[04:28] <devilsreject> if i send somebody a .wav file will you use soundconverter and switch it to  an mp3 for me please mine isnt working for some reason
[04:28] <unimatrix9> ola
[04:28] <LjL> mzuverink, "sudo -i" does *not* time out. it just gives you a root shell, exactly like "su -"
[04:29] <shearn89> devilsreject: install lame, and it can do it easily.
[04:29] <murkyMurk> Mahariya: you only really need the DVD if you don't want the install routine to download lots of apps from the web. There is nothing in it that you can't get via the liveCD route or later from apt-get
[04:29] <Dmitry_> greetings. i've tried installing ubuntu (feisty fawn) before, but was unsuccessful for some reason. the install aborted, but the partition was left there. then i installed ubuntu again, and it all worked well. that's what i'm using now. i just got the message informing me that the partition disk space is 100% used. i'm wondering how i can delete the other partition with semi-working ubuntu that i do not (nor intend to) use.
[04:29] <mzuverink> LjL, thanks for that, I did not know that, now I feel all tingly all over, I learned something
[04:29] <comicinker> and it has no executable flag
[04:29] <mzuverink> LjL, thank you
[04:29] <unimatrix9> devilsreject , what would you like to do?
[04:29] <shearn89> Dmitry_: you could boot up the live cd and use gparted to erase it.
[04:30] <Pici> comicinker: Can you open it from gedit (or your favorite text editor) using that program's open dialog instead of double clicking it?
[04:30] <LjL> mzuverink: i don't understand why everybody things Ubuntu simply "doesn't let you use root". sudo can let you use root in *every* possible way, including giving you a shell... and yet, people can't be convinced of this.
[04:30] <damjan> Hi, if I update Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10, are the update debs will be in /var/cache/apt/archives/, or else were, cause I need to burn them on cd to install them to my friends.
[04:30] <LjL> mzuverink: anyway, back to the original problem, try installing rkhunter and see if it says anything
[04:30] <Dmitry_> shearn89, could i do it without loading it up? does ubuntu not have a partition manager that i can access at this stage?
[04:30] <shearn89> Dmitry_: that would let you format it as an extra partition for storing music on or something.
[04:31] <comicinker> pici: yes
[04:31] <shearn89> Dmitry_: actually yes- you'd have to unmount the partition first, but if you're not using it, thats fine.
[04:31] <Dmitry_> initially, i created a partition for ubuntu from windows. then ubuntu divided it further.
[04:31] <abonilla> Hi, is anyone aware of a fix for the dual head issued that the cursor becomes a square?
[04:31] <unimatrix9> LjL , two simple commands and you get an normal root / user setup like debian...
[04:31] <damjan> somebody?
[04:31] <Dmitry_> shearn89, i don't think it's mounted currently. could you tell me how to erase it?
[04:31] <LjL> unimatrix9: and then things break, like they did for instance in Breezy. but the issue is, anyway: WHY?
[04:31] <comicinker> pici: the problem is also that I cant edit the "open with" settings. It tells me that i cannot be added to the "application data base"
[04:31] <Dmitry_> i'd rather completely erase it, in comparison to just deleting files from it.
[04:32] <shearn89> Dmitry_: yeah sure - hit alt-f2, and type "gparted".
[04:32] <LjL> unimatrix9: Ubuntu is set up this way. you can do *everything* without changing that setup. so use it that way... it's not *tested* to be used in other ways!
[04:32] <murkyMurk> damjan: sounds plausible but dangerous...how will you know that all the updates are applicable to your friend's boxes...why not just update them directly?
[04:32] <Pici> comicinker: What file type does that dialog say the file is?
[04:32] <unimatrix9> damjan : you can use apt-oncd for things like that, and yes they should be in that file
[04:32] <Dmitry_> Could not open location 'file:///gparted'
[04:32] <shearn89> !gparted
[04:32] <ubotu> GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[04:32] <damjan> unimatrix9: how
[04:32] <mzuverink> LjL, I use sudo too, it just that I am old and set in my ways, now with your new tidbit i have already removed su ability, and an installrkhunter too.  Thanks.  I have no problem w/ sudo, you are right, you can do everything with it, the "-i" thing really helps me out.
[04:32] <shearn89> Dmitry_: there you go.
[04:33] <comicinker> Pici: no file type is displayed. the list is empty
[04:33] <shearn89> Dmitry_: did you see the bot message?
[04:33] <damjan> unimatrix9: give me tutorial for apt-oncd, please.
[04:33] <LjL> mzuverink: also you can always set the timeout to be longer than the default 15 minutes
[04:33] <Dmitry_> thanks, ubotu
[04:33] <msingh> if i plug in a bluetooth adapter
[04:33] <Dmitry_> shearn89, yeah, sorry. got dinner. :P doing the stuff now
[04:33] <msingh> can i browse photos on my phone
[04:33] <unimatrix9> damjan http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/
[04:33] <unimatrix9> good luck..
[04:33] <msingh> or do i need to configure it?
[04:34] <damjan> unimatrix9: thanks
[04:34] <mzuverink> LjL, reading about that now
[04:34] <Dmitry_> After unpacking 6316kB of additional disk space will be used.
[04:34] <Dmitry_> i'm unsure if i have that much.
[04:34] <shearn89> Dmitry_: cool.
[04:34] <Dmitry_> *checks*
[04:34] <shearn89> Dmitry_: 6mbs?
[04:34] <mzuverink> LjL, Doc's, info and man are a good thing
[04:34] <gnodly> hi
[04:34] <unimatrix9> well got to go, bye everyone
[04:34] <unimatrix9> :)
[04:34] <Dmitry_> if only i knew how to check :S
[04:34] <Pici> comicinker: So.. it doesnt know what filetype it is? Even if you run it as an argument to file on the terminal?
[04:34] <Dmitry_> shearn89, the message told me that 100% of the disk is used.
[04:34] <Dmitry_> damn it.
[04:35] <mzuverink> LjL, why does rkhunter need to install exim4?
[04:35] <gnodly> how do i find out which version of ubuntu im using?
[04:35] <damjan> unimatrix9: How the cd will be recognised, as package or distro update?
[04:35] <LjL> mzuverink: to send you email alerts when it runs from crontab
[04:35] <Pici> gnodly: lsb_release -a in a terminal
[04:35] <mzuverink> LjL, ok, thanks
[04:36] <comicinker> but, wait, no I can open the file in gedit or wherever. But I cant open files without extensions from nautilus anymore
[04:36] <alejandro> hi
[04:36] <alejandro> when my dhcp lease is renewed
[04:36] <alejandro> how it works
[04:37] <Mxboy> lo
[04:37] <comicinker> Pici: I think the problem could be somewhere in at the "application database"
[04:37] <alejandro> i want to have in eth0 assigned by dhcp
[04:37] <gnodly> Pici: thank you. ubuntu 7.04
[04:37] <mzuverink> LjL, youve been a big help, thank you. rkhunter reports nothing, so I am not going to worry about it
[04:37] <miked> are bootable cd iso any different then non-bootable cd isos, or do they only differ in actual content?
[04:37] <alejandro> but also eth0:1 private subnet 192.168.1.0/24 assigne static
[04:37] <Vlet> Anyone know of a way of altering the ctrl-shift-leftarrow text selection behavior in gtk?
[04:38] <alejandro> the probles its tha every time public ip its renewed local ip interface (eth0) its going down
[04:38] <grjemo> I am trying to install Ubuntu, but I am getting an error saying that job control is unavailable, and that tty is turned off. I can't possible type he other gibbrish it said. (The computer is downstairs)
[04:38] <alejandro> any idea?
[04:38] <Pici> !ttyerror | grjemo
[04:38] <ubotu> grjemo: If you get an error on boot similar to  /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off , you can try the fixes proposed at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TTYError
[04:39] <alejandro> eth0:1 privete interface sorry
[04:39] <comicinker> Pici: or maybe the file recognition doesnt work anymore
[04:39] <Pici> comicinker: Do any files open up normally?
[04:39] <grjemo> ubotu: Thanks, ill try
[04:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanks, ill try - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:39] <comicinker> yes, those with extension
[04:40] <comicinker> I even can edit the "open with" dialog at files with extension
[04:40] <toed> for some reason network-manager can't connect to my wpa network all of a sudden
[04:40] <alejandro> i i know what binary program it is exec, ill make a script
[04:41] <KevlarSoul>  I boot to CD and click Install, and get a black screen,  Is there a problem with GG beta not working with 8800 GTX ????
[04:41] <toed> it was working fine yesterday and I haven't changed anything
[04:41] <Pici> KevlarSoul: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions please.
[04:41] <KevlarSoul> Pici, tried that no answer
[04:41] <Pici> KevlarSoul: Be patient.
[04:41] <KevlarSoul> thanks, Buddha, I asked here, if anyone can help, I'll take it.
[04:42] <Pici> KevlarSoul: Gutsy is offtopic for this channel, #ubuntu+1 is where you should be asking.
[04:42] <Pici> comicinker: This is with Gnome, right?
[04:42] <alejandro> or how i can assign two interfaces for the same network card
[04:42] <alejandro> eth0 and eth1
[04:42] <abonilla> Quick, common question, which is Gutsy release date?
[04:43] <Pici> abonilla: 18th, other questions in #ubuntu+1 please.
[04:43] <neopsych2> is jabber protocol in gaim the same as XMPP???
[04:43] <erUSUL> neopsych2: yes
[04:43] <neopsych2> thanks
[04:43] <abonilla> Pici: np
[04:43] <comicinker> Pici: yeah, exactly
[04:43] <neopsych2> im having some problem logging into gtalk server using jabber protocol/
[04:44] <neopsych2> has anyone used jabber for gtalk?
[04:44] <FurryNemesis> hello
[04:44] <FurryNemesis> does anyone know how I can lock my keyboard?
[04:44] <MarcC> neopsych2: yes, I used the tutorial on the Psi site, I think, or maybe it was Google's tut for Psi
[04:44] <murkyMurk> alejandro: /etc/network/interfaces is the file to amend. Googling it will hit many howtos
[04:44] <neopsych2> FurryNemesis.. putit in a safe :-) Just kidding... if you want to lock your KB while you are out perhaps there is a way to require logon after screensaver intiates .. that way you could lock your system.
[04:44] <neopsych2> quickly easily
[04:44] <neopsych2> just an idea
[04:45] <pike_> FurryNemesis: in xubuntu i can tell you but i dont know the gnome screensaver well
[04:45] <FurryNemesis> neopsych2, ooh I forgot about that..... thanks!
[04:45] <neopsych2> ;-)
[04:45] <neopsych2> Glad to be of help.. im a bit of a noobie too so glad i can contribute someting
[04:45] <Pici> comicinker: This is very odd.
[04:46] <DeeJayTwo> Hi!
[04:46] <neopsych2> odd?
[04:46] <neopsych2> Hi@!
[04:46] <DeeJayTwo> I'm not able to properly set my ASUS EAX1600Pro card (ATI X1600 Pro) with dual head and fglrx..
[04:46] <DeeJayTwo> I'm using XGL
[04:46] <neopsyche> hmm
[04:46] <Pici> comicinker: What does `file yourfilename` return from a terminal?
[04:46] <neopsyche> I have only really used xorg
[04:46] <MarcC> !offtopic
[04:46] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:46] <DeeJayTwo> it works...but logging with the Gnome session kindda crashes and goes back to gdm
[04:47] <DeeJayTwo> so I have to use gnome failsafe
[04:47] <DeeJayTwo> I'm using the mergedfb option for dual head
[04:47] <neopsyche> probably reconfigure using xorg maby?
[04:47] <neopsyche> too advanced for me to help at this point i think.
[04:47] <neopsyche> hope you come right.
[04:47] <agent> I am trying to decide between 3 eBook formats for an eBook purchase: Adobe Reader, MobiPocket and Microsoft Reader. Which is best for GNU/Linux? I take it MS is out, never heard of MobiPocket, and is Adobe Ebook just a regular PDF? Can such pdfs have restricted DRM?
[04:47] <comicinker> Pici: /usr/share/doc/eagle/copyright: ISO-8859 English text
[04:47] <neopsyche> hope your card comes right
[04:48] <grjemo> ubotu: I hit F6 and added acpi=force irqpoll to the command line, but now I am getting the screen with the little horizontal line that I usually get on boot. It lets me type, however no message is displayed.
[04:48] <DeeJayTwo> has anybody got an ATI X1600 Pro card working with desktop acceleration and dual head?
[04:48] <pike_> agent: id avoid msreader
[04:48] <agent> pike_: Really? Why is that?
[04:48] <neopsyche> agent probably there would / could be a feature for drm.. but most people wouldnt care much for those books i dont think
[04:49] <Pici> comicinker: hmm.... I'm really not sure what to tell you.  You can either search on bugs.ubuntu.com, the forums or ask again here. Sorry.
[04:49] <neopsyche> agent.. pdf is compatible with a wide range of readers...
[04:49] <damjan> Anyone know how can nautilus actions be used, but not the program but it's version for terminal or something?
[04:49] <pike_> agent: my exp its much more likely to standardize around adobe or somesuch than MS. but i dont know ebooks at all really. youre assured of drm too id assume with ms
[04:49] <comicinker> ok. anyway, thank you!
[04:50] <neopsyche> Does anyone know how to install plugins on ubuntu for pidgeon/gaim
[04:50] <neopsyche> ?
[04:50] <Jack__1> hi all
[04:50] <alejandro> why adobe acrobat reader isnt in ubuntu?
[04:50] <Jack__1> can anyone help me please ?
[04:50] <Pici> !pdf | alejandro
[04:50] <alejandro> or skipe?
[04:50] <neopsyche> there is a seperate program that works.
[04:50] <alejandro> !pdf
[04:50] <ubotu> alejandro: pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/evince, and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[04:50] <neopsyche> re: pdf
[04:50] <neopsyche> Skype can be installed on ubuntu
[04:50] <agent> pike_, neopsyche: Thank you for the help!
[04:50] <Pici> Jack__1: Ask us the question.
[04:50] <Jack__1> thank you pici
[04:51] <Jack__1> i need an ebook
[04:51] <Jack__1> can someone help me please ?
[04:51] <grjemo> I had an error and ubotu sent me a link. I followed the instructions. I hit F6 and added acpi=force irqpoll to the command line, but now I am getting the screen with the little horizontal line that I usually get on boot. It lets me type, however no message is displayed. Can anyone help me?
[04:51] <alejandro> !skype
[04:51] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[04:51] <neopsyche> what ebook?
[04:51] <neopsyche> Jack__1 what ebook?
[04:51] <Jack__1> data and computer communications
[04:51] <Jack__1> by william stallings
[04:52] <Pici> Jack__1: This is the Ubuntu support channel.  I'm not sure where to point you, but this isn't the right place.
[04:52] <Jack__1> i know pici but this is really important for me
[04:52] <Jack__1> if someone can help me
[04:52] <wers> is a kernel update the only reason for system start to be required
[04:53] <Jack__1> i'll be glad
[04:53] <Pici> Jack__1: You can try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic, but not here please.
[04:53] <neopsyche> btebook.com and oebook.com are down.. however you can still search google.com and get links to oebook.com servers that still work... by typing (oebook.com name of book) then use googles cache to access the link.
[04:53] <Jack__1> ok
[04:53] <vince__> Are the Myspace users present here experimenting the same problem as me? I can't detach the "standalone player" on music pages. Do anyone have a solution?
[04:53] <Jack__1> oh ok neo
[04:53] <Jack__1> thank you , i will immediately try
[04:53] <vince__> (no "stop to use myspace" allowed)
[04:54] <neopsyche> or alternatively try oebook.com directly to see if it is accessable for your area.
[04:54] <Jack__1> ok
[04:55] <Jack__1> rapidshared , oebook ... i think these servers can not be reached
[04:55] <sadek> bbb
[04:58] <legendi> re
[04:59] <neopsyche> using pidgeon IM (gaim) in ubuntu i can connect to gtalk server but not see any contacts????
[04:59] <grjemo> ubotu: I changed acpi=force to acpi=off, but know im getting a bunch of relocation errors.
[04:59] <legendi> I want to install ubuntu, but I've got only dvd-s at hand - is it possible to write the cd image to a dvd to be able to install ubuntu?
[04:59] <ZmaX_> Hi all. There was an interruption of the power supply and my notebook had a shutdown. Now I noted that my notebook is very very slow and there is a lot of hard disk activity. How can I solve this problem? Thanks to all.
[04:59] <user__> Hello! Can I change the default icons, so that pdf files get another image than openoffice files?
[05:00] <neopsyche> legend: probably
[05:00] <Dr_willis> legendi,  Not that ive ever heard done.. heard people ASK if it can be done.. they alwyas get told No. :)
[05:00] <legendi> :-)
[05:00] <Dr_willis> legendi,  there a dvd install if you want to redownload a  big iso.
[05:00] <neopsyche> just order DVD from Ubuntu.com ???
[05:00] <legendi> ok, then I'll be the first one performing it :D
[05:00] <Dr_willis> !Shipit
[05:00] <ubotu> shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will send Feisty (7.04) CDs
[05:00] <legendi> neopsyche: i wanna install it NOW! :D
[05:01] <Dr_willis> legendi,  lets just say that i DID it once.. with some brain dead burner program that dident realize the media was wrong.. and it dident work.
[05:01] <neopsyche> download it.
[05:01] <neopsyche> or .. if you have a freedomtoaster in your area.. get it from there
[05:01] <neopsyche> !freedomtoaster
[05:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about freedomtoaster - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:01] <thesaint4444> does anyone know if ip ailiasing is enabled by default in the kernel for ubuntu dapper drake 6.06 2.6.15-26-server  ?
[05:01] <user__> Any ideas how to have pdfs have different images than odts?
[05:01] <marlon427> I need help
[05:01] <lImItaO> hi
[05:02] <marlon427> Does anyone know how I can open a program on Feisty Fawn?
[05:02] <marlon427> I see it on the list, but I cannot open it
[05:02] <lImItaO> i remove my old tv card and now my new dvb card dowsn't work
[05:02] <neopsyche> http://www.freedomtoaster.org/
[05:02] <neopsyche> Burn while you wait
[05:02] <DoYouKnow> hi. I installed kde 4.0 beta-2 from backports and am having some difficulty. I get the error. This object can not be created in a white strip at the bottom of my screen, and there is no kde start menu
[05:02] <DoYouKnow> how do I fix it?
[05:02] <lImItaO> it seems to be a problem of the frontend
[05:02] <lImItaO> now is fronend0
[05:03] <Dmitry_> Root privileges are required for running GParted
[05:03] <lImItaO> but i don't know where i can changue it
[05:03] <marlon427> Can anyone in here help me?
[05:03] <Dmitry_> how would i gain those privileges?
[05:03] <Vlet> whoa, freedomtoasters = awesome :)
[05:03] <user__> maybe someone can give me a pointer to a howto that explains how to make pdfs have different icons than odts?
[05:03] <lImItaO> somebody helps me?
[05:03] <neopsyche> I think there are freedomtoasters in SA and Germany currently.. and a few other African countries.
[05:03] <user__> can someone help me?
[05:04] <neopsyche> If im not misteaken
[05:04] <grjemo> I was trying to install Ubuntu on by Windows sp2 pc, but I got an error. I went to the page that Ubotu referred me to (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TTYError). It didn't work, so I changed apci=force to acpi=off. It is now giving me a ton of relocation errors. What do I do?
[05:04] <marlon427> LOL this must be the wrong room
[05:04] <neopsyche> !help
[05:04] <neopsyche> :-)
[05:04] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:04] <lImItaO> hahaha
[05:04] <user__> in windows its easy
[05:04] <marlon427> I used Wubi to install Ubuntu on a separate harddrive
[05:04] <neopsyche> !windows
[05:04] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[05:04] <Vlet> user__: Be patient :) I'm tying to remember
[05:04] <neopsyche> :-)
[05:04] <marlon427> LOL for real
[05:04] <marlon427> I just want to know how do I open a program on Ubuntu??
[05:04] <neopsyche> what program
[05:04] <marlon427> I see it listed, but I cannot open it
[05:04] <neopsyche> ?
[05:05] <marlon427> BMP music player
[05:05] <marlon427> i installed it, but i can't figure out how to open it
[05:05] <neopsyche> !BMP music player
[05:05] <marlon427> yeah
[05:05] <lImItaO> i remove my old tv card and now my new dvb card dowsn't work
[05:05] <thesaint4444> hi guys, has anyone setup multiple ip addresses on a network card before i.e. ip aliasing - is it set up by default in the kernel in dapper drake?
[05:05] <marlon427> or any program, i have no clue how to open the program to use it
[05:05] <grjemo> Thanks for the help. /sarcasm
[05:05] <neopsyche> are you using gnome? marlon
[05:05] <marlon427> I am Using Ubuntu Feisty Fawn
[05:05] <marlon427> i dont know what Gnome is
[05:06] <Dr_willis> !gnome
[05:06] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[05:06] <JuJuBee_> Is there a freeware for linux to convert uif to iso?  All I find is MagicIso
[05:06] <Dmitry_> !gparted
[05:06] <ubotu> GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[05:06] <marlon427> oh ok
[05:06] <Dmitry_> *thinks*
[05:06] <Dmitry_> !root
[05:06] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[05:06] <marlon427> i believe I have gnome
[05:06] <stefg> thesaint4444: have a look into /boot/config-'uname -r'
[05:07] <lImItaO> bye
[05:07] <neopsyche> you should be able to open programs by clicking on them... from the applications menu for example... this involves pressing the left mouse button when clicking generally
[05:07] <neopsyche> :-)
[05:07] <marlon427> where do i find a list of the programs?
[05:07] <marlon427> what file are they in by default?
[05:07] <grjemo> Is there a way to shut off ubotu?
[05:07] <marlon427> as in Program Files for windows
[05:07] <neopsyche> try clicking on applications
[05:07] <Vlet> user__: I remember now. The file type icons are attached to your theme. Some themes may have different icons for those file types, some may not
[05:07] <marlon427> i did,
[05:07] <neopsyche> you may be able to ignore ubotu
[05:08] <marlon427> the program BMP is not listed
[05:08] <thesaint4444> stefg: thanks...
[05:08] <Dmitry_> how would i gain root privileges? i need them in order to run gparted. not in a terminal.
[05:08] <neopsyche> go console then type bmp
[05:08] <marlon427> what is console?
[05:08] <Vlet> user__: So in other words, there is no direct way to change it - you have to play with the theme
[05:08] <neopsyche> what do you want to use bmp for?
[05:08] <mehmetserif> i just want to know where are the apt logs stored because when i try install something it just gives that error "failed to write cache" for some fonts but i can't see them anymore and i need to know where are the log files
[05:08] <user__> Vlet: And if I wat to keep the Human theme, but change icons, that isn't possible?
[05:08] <marlon427> you mean Terminal?
[05:09] <Vlet> user__: It is, but you'll have to modify the theme
[05:09] <marlon427> I'm a newbie here, sorry if I sound linux retarded
[05:09] <Vlet> user__: Just found this on goog.. http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-302549.html
[05:09] <damjan> Is Opengl enabled in X on nvidia ge force 4 card?
[05:09] <neopsyche> marlon.. click applications > accessories > terminal
[05:09] <marcos> ai
[05:09] <marlon427> ok
[05:10] <marcos> wenas
[05:10] <neopsyche> then in term type rpm
[05:10] <marlon427> i'm at a prompt now
[05:10] <marlon427> oh ok
[05:10] <neopsyche> oh
[05:10] <neopsyche> no m
[05:10] <neopsyche> Wait.. i mean.. BMP
[05:10] <neopsyche> ;-)
[05:10] <marlon427> ok: it says command not found
[05:10] <neopsyche> to see if your bmp program will work
[05:10] <neopsyche> what is BMP?
[05:10] <marlon427> media player
[05:10] <marlon427> oh here it comes
[05:10] <neopsyche> oh
[05:10] <neopsyche> ;-)
[05:10] <neopsyche> cool
[05:10] <marlon427> i had to type "bmpx"
[05:10] <neopsyche> ;-)
[05:10] <marlon427> so i can do that for any program?
[05:11] <neopsyche> mostly
[05:11] <marlon427> thanks so much! neo
[05:11] <user__> Vlet: How do I find the folder where my icon theme is installed?
[05:11] <neopsyche> cool
[05:11] <marlon427> much thanks
[05:11] <user__> !icons
[05:11] <ubotu> Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (Gnome) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)
[05:11] <neopsyche> you may also want to install VLC
[05:11] <marlon427> oh ok
[05:11] <neopsyche> VLC player plays loads of stuff
[05:11] <marlon427> i'm really liking Ubuntu a ot.
[05:11] <marlon427> lot
[05:11] <neopsyche> Yeah
[05:11] <neopsyche> sudo apt-get install videolan
[05:11] <marlon427> thanks neo. Bye
[05:12] <neopsyche> cheers
[05:12] <vince__> Are the Myspace users present here experimenting the same problem as me? I can't detach the "standalone player" on music pages. Do anyone have a solution?
[05:12] <neopsyche> COULD someone pleeeease help me with GAIM???!
[05:12] <neopsyche> I have the deafault gaim install on ubuntu
[05:12] <bieb> use pidgin
[05:12] <neopsyche> Need to install plugins
[05:12] <hammer123> i install mplayer....now it becomes the default player...how do i change default player to vlc?
[05:12] <neopsyche> yeah thats what i mean
[05:13] <neopsyche> It is pidgeon
[05:13] <damjan> Need gdm reconfig tutorial and all stuff about gdm
[05:13] <Vlet> user__: I don't know. You can figure it out :)
[05:13] <neopsyche> but i need to have other features
[05:13] <bieb> ok
[05:13] <bieb> what cha looking for?
[05:13] <ikonia> neopsyche pidgen is not available on fesity - wait for gusty
[05:13] <hdevalence> does anyone know if there is a thing that's like rapidshare but it's a torrent tracker?
[05:13] <user__> Vlet: because ~/.icons is empty
[05:13] <neopsyche> want to install plugins
[05:13] <neopsyche> cant i modify gaim?
[05:13] <bieb> ikonia, it is in the repositories now
[05:13] <ikonia> neopsyche modify it what way
[05:13] <ikonia> bieb the fesity ones ?
[05:14] <ikonia> !info pidgen
[05:14] <ubotu> Package pidgen does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[05:14] <neopsyche> want to turn off depart/enter messages for one!
[05:14] <hammer123> any1 know how to change the default media player to vlc?
[05:14] <neopsyche> also.. having problems loging into gtalk using jabber prot
[05:14] <neopsyche> hammer> simply change the open with
[05:14] <neopsyche> on your file type
[05:15] <mehmetserif> i just want to know where are the apt logs stored because when i try install something it just gives that error "failed to write cache" for some fonts but i can't see them anymore and i need to know where are the log files
[05:15] <neopsyche> left click on file type > properties > open with> type vlc
[05:15] <bieb> neo.. you can also join #pidgin there are some people there that have done development
[05:15] <neopsyche> thanks
[05:15] <ikonia> mehmetserif thats font cache I assume
[05:15] <Dr_willis> mehmetserif,  try /var/logs ?
[05:15] <user__> Vlet: Or is it /usr/share/icons/Human with me?
[05:15] <hammer123> cool...it works...thanks neo
[05:15] <xsacha> excuse me, i was wondering if the live dvd would be more RAM-intensive than the live cd. that is, if I had a low amount of RAM (512MB) and wanted to run a live version of ubuntu, which should i choose?
[05:16] <ikonia> xsacha no
[05:16] <ikonia> they are the same product
[05:16] <MrPink> can someone help a newb with his first tries at a mini shell script ?  Somehow it wont work right
[05:16] <ikonia> and are only availale on cdrom really
[05:16] <xsacha> ok, just that the live dvd has more packages available offline?
[05:16] <ikonia> xsacha correct
[05:16] <hammer123> i am running ubuntu on 512MB ram...
[05:16] <xsacha> thanks
[05:16] <mehmetserif> Dr_willis, i couldn't find them there
[05:16] <ikonia> MrPink #bash for shell scripts
[05:16] <user__> Vlet: So that I have to create /usr/share/icons/Human/48x48/mimetypes/gnome-mime-application-pdf.png ?
[05:16] <mehmetserif> ikonia, yes thats font cache
[05:17] <MrPink> ikonia I am not sure if it is the script problem... that is why I am here
[05:17] <Yoriel> holsa
[05:17] <ikonia> mehmetserif its something like fontcache -l to show the cache dir
[05:17] <Yoriel> hi
[05:17] <ikonia> MrPink if your running a script and its not working - its a script problem
[05:17] <Yoriel> ehy how i can up the resolution
[05:17] <MrPink> ikonia when I run the script, it says that I don't have permission to edit the file... but chmod is set to 777
[05:17] <Yoriel> when it dont appear alone
[05:17] <neopsyche> yoriel..
[05:17] <neopsyche> what version?
[05:17] <Yoriel> 7.04
[05:17] <neopsyche> depends.
[05:18] <neopsyche> how high?
[05:18] <ikonia> MrPink put the script in a pastbin
[05:18] <Yoriel> 1024-768
[05:18] <MrPink> ikonia ok one sec
[05:18] <mehmetserif> ikonia, no it didnt work i mean command not foud
[05:18] <mehmetserif> found
[05:18] <neopsyche> you should be able to do that by acessing system
[05:18] <ikonia> mehmetserif thats not the right command, its something like that
[05:18] <ikonia> mehmetserif /etc/fonts.conf, your ache is normally in your homeddir
[05:18] <neopsyche> yoriel: system > pref > screz
[05:18] <Yoriel> neopsyche: how
[05:18] <ikonia> mehmetserif: fc-cache
[05:18] <neopsyche> click
[05:18] <neopsyche> ;-)
[05:19] <Yoriel> neopsyche: i try this option
[05:19] <neopsyche> and?
[05:19] <Yoriel> neopsyche: and dont work man, therefore i'm asking
[05:19] <neopsyche> does it not give you option to go 1024?
[05:19] <MrPink> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/m1c384759  as I said its not much of a script... it basically is supposed to downsize all images in the folder to half the size
[05:19] <Yoriel> neopsych i edite: wich is the file that can
[05:20] <neopsyche> xorg.conf
[05:20] <Yoriel> neopsych i edite: yes, it dont give this option
[05:20] <neopsyche> I think that is where you can edit
[05:20] <Yoriel> is in /etc
[05:20] <neopsyche> !xorg
[05:20] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:20] <Yoriel> ?
[05:20] <neopsyche> !xorg.conf
[05:20] <hdevalence> ikonia: wouldn't imagemagick be good for that?
[05:20] <mehmetserif> ikonia, ok that command did something but i have to try if it works fiene
[05:20] <xsacha> Yoriel: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:20] <ikonia> MrPink your missing "do
[05:20] <ikonia> hdevalence for what ?
[05:20] <xsacha> in section "Screen"
[05:20] <Pici> !away > Sajes|BRB (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[05:21] <Yoriel> tks all
[05:21] <smmusashi> I need help, I compiled the Nvidia Driver and when I restart, the X don't work and I recept this message "Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module!"
[05:21] <Yoriel> i try
[05:21] <neopsyche> hope it works for you yoriel
[05:21] <user__> Vlet: That doesn't work: I created /usr/share/icons/Human/48x48/mimetypes/gnome-mime-application-pdf.png
[05:22] <JEFFmasterFlex> smmusashi:  the nvidia drivers are available from the repos, while would you build the nvidia blob?
[05:22] <user__> Vlet: Oh. The instructions say to log out and in. I'll try
[05:22] <vince__> Are the Myspace users present here experimenting the same problem as me? I can't detach the "standalone player" on music pages. Is anyone familiar to this issue?
[05:23] <damjan_> Why firefox has so many bugs, disordered pages?
[05:23] <vince__> (using firefox)
[05:23] <Rageon> i prefer IE in ubuntu.
[05:23] <Rageon> lol .... jk
[05:23] <user__> Vlet: it didn't work
[05:23] <user__> The icons are the same
[05:23] <xsacha> Rageon: linux32 wine iexplorer4.exe
[05:23] <smmusashi> yes, I am using the compiz-fusion.. work perfectly, but when I restart the X stopped
[05:24] <user__> is there anything else I can try?
[05:24] <genii> Rageon: Well maybe then IEtab extension may work ...
[05:24] <Rageon> i know u can but why
[05:24] <xsacha> Rageon: thats my fave browser
[05:24] <Yoriel> who solve the tiff activex in IE
[05:24] <Yoriel> ?
[05:24] <xsacha> its so fast.. even through linux32 and wine :)
[05:25] <Rageon> etto :)
[05:25] <iceschade> hi everyone
[05:25] <user__> Vlet: What did I do wrong?
[05:25] <user__> It doesn't work
[05:25] <user__> 
[05:25] <Yoriel> xsacha: i use ie over crosover  in ubuntu, and work good less when u send to print.. is slow
[05:25] <pepo> i need one source.list for ubuntu 7.04
[05:25] <pepo> a good source.list
[05:25] <pepo> fast
[05:26] <user__> I guess I have to use Windows after all... Ubuntu isn't customizable.
[05:26] <ikonia> user__ enjoy
[05:26] <user__> ikonia: enjoy what?
[05:26] <erUSUL> user__: using windows ;)
[05:26] <ikonia> user__ using windows, as ubuntu isn't customizable.
[05:27] <user__> Oh
[05:27] <e\ectro_> is it possible to sudo cat a "here doc" and output to a file?
[05:27] <ikonia> e\ectro_: explain ?
[05:27] <e\ectro_> (sudo cat <<-'END_OF_APT_CONFIG' > /etc/apt/sources.list)
[05:27] <xsacha> user__: :)
[05:28] <Bo^Dick> hi
[05:28] <ikonia> e\ectro_: that works
[05:28] <MrPink> ikonia: so
[05:28] <MrPink> #!/bin/bash
[05:28] <MrPink> for f in *.jpg; sudo do
[05:28] <MrPink>   convert -scale 50%  $f /$f
[05:28] <MrPink> done;
[05:28] <e\ectro_> ikonia: but doesnt run as sudeo
[05:28] <MrPink> should work ?
[05:28] <e\ectro_> ikonia: sudo
[05:28] <ikonia> MrPink no, "jpg; do sudo convert blah blah"
[05:28] <xsacha> user__: the problem is that it is so customisable that you get lost and you're not sure where to go to change what you want
[05:28] <ikonia> e\ectro_: thats nodd
[05:28] <Yoriel> neopsych i edite: it dont work
[05:28] <ikonia> nodd
[05:28] <xsacha> user__: can change everything.
[05:28] <ikonia> odd
[05:28] <anthem> hai
[05:28] <anthem> newbie
[05:28] <anthem> nih
[05:29] <Bo^Dick> can i install ubuntu before windows if i want a dual boot system?
[05:29] <MrPink> ok I'll try that, thanks
[05:29] <user__> so how do you change the icons for pdfs?
[05:29] <anthem> ada yg tau penganti mathtype di ubuntu apa ya
[05:29] <Pici> Bo^Dick: Its easier if you have windows installed first.
[05:29] <ikonia> Bo^Dick: you can, but you'll find it easier to do it the other way around
[05:29] <Bo^Dick> ikonia: what for?
[05:29] <e\ectro_> ikonia: I know, trying to create a post install script for some headless installs I have
[05:29] <hammer123> bo^dick..if u r a noob...better to install windows then ubuntu
[05:29] <Bo^Dick> ikonia: due to partitioning issues?
[05:29] <ikonia> Bo^Dick: boot loader basiclly
[05:29] <hammer123> just like me...simple procedute
[05:29] <Pici> !id | anthem
[05:29] <ubotu> anthem: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[05:30] <ikonia> hammer123 1.) noob is derogatory 2.) don't use text speak - clear english is easier
[05:30] <Yoriel> Bo^Dick>	because windows rewrite the MBR
[05:30] <anthem> ok2
[05:30] <pwnt-> My upgrade to gutsy has been running since yesterday
[05:30] <Yoriel> as linux do the same when write the boot
[05:30] <ikonia> Pici: your language knowledge is second to know
[05:30] <ikonia> none
[05:30] <pwnt-> and yet its not even 80%
[05:31] <user__> so nobody can help me? I don't want to spend lots of money for windows!
[05:31] <pwnt-> user__: why would you waste money for windows?
[05:31] <xsacha> Bo^Dick: either: install windows, install ubuntu   - or - install ubuntu, install windows, install GRUB
[05:31] <ikonia> user__ people have helpd you and you have just complained and keep "threatening" to just use windows
[05:31] <vega|> Its better to install Windows first
[05:31] <pwnt-> ikonia: lol
[05:31] <Norrel> none gives a * if you change to windows
[05:31] <tushyd> hey, I have a nvidia 8600 lappy and for some reason the beryl minimize and unminimize animations are choppy as hell. Everything else is fine, like wobbly windows and cube
[05:32] <tushyd> any ideas?
[05:32] <Stiev2> Hi, I've got a problem with my LVM. My server has a 40GB IDE drive as the boot drive, and two 500GB SATA's in an LVM. When I add new SATA drives to the LVM, the LVM thinks it only has 20GB left, when in actuality it has an extra 500GB (new drive). From what I've read, the new kernel places all IDE drives in the sd* format, along with the SATA drives. Unfortunatly, every time I plug or unplug a SATA drive, the IDE takes the end sd* spot. He
[05:32] <xsacha> user__ let me get this straight, you are going to change to windows because you cant work out how to change one icon?
[05:32] <Yoriel> Bo^Dick> is more easy install windows first, and i recomend u study the partitions for your hdd
[05:32] <iceschade> haha... It's really sad when users think it's "threatening" to say "I might end up just going back to Windows..."
[05:32] <pwnt-> ahaha
[05:32] <ikonia> Stiev2 how many vollume groups do you have
[05:32] <iceschade> Not like I really care, that's your choice.
[05:32] <aTypical> xsacha, don't go trying to make sense of this now.  ;-)
[05:32] <Stiev2> ikonia: one
[05:32] <pwnt-> I hope he go for lindows
[05:32] <Alfadir_> how do I uninstall steam via wine so I can use it in crossover instead?
[05:32] <Stiev2> the one LVM is the two 500'S
[05:33] <Yoriel> Alfadir_: delete the buttle
[05:33] <miked> ghost solution suite is TRASH
[05:33] <Yoriel> Alfadir_: bottle
[05:33] <miked> fyi
[05:33] <ikonia> Stiev2 and you did a pvcreate on the new device
[05:33] <Stiev2> yes
[05:33] <Pici> Alfadir_: You should have an 'uninstall' entry in your wine menu folder.
[05:33] <Alfadir_> how do I do that? I just installed linux a few days ago
[05:33] <Meroigo> hardware 3D acceleration brokes with my ati card if I have two monitors with xinerama in xorg.conf. If I only have one monitor, 3D works fine. How can i fix it?
[05:33] <ikonia> Stiev2 and vgdisplay - how many devices does it show
[05:33] <Alfadir_> it just says steam, Pici
[05:33] <Stiev2> the new 500GB was added with no problems, and files were copied to it
[05:33] <pwnt-> Alfadir_: why tho, i'm just curious because steam & css works perfect w/ wine for me.
[05:34] <Pici> Alfadir_: Do you have a Wine menu folder?
[05:34] <Alfadir_> pwnt-, I got no sound and lag in steam via wine:(
[05:34] <Alfadir_> Pici, yeah
[05:34] <Yoriel> Alfadir_: look in home
[05:34] <ikonia> Stiev2 ? files where copied to it ? how many disks does vgdisplay show ?
[05:34] <pwnt-> Alfadir_: strange, what version of wine do you have. "wine --version"
[05:34] <Pici> Alfadir_: Is there  a uninstall icon there?
[05:34] <Stiev2> it shows three devices
[05:34] <xsacha> Meroigo: with the method of getting 2 screens you are using, the second screen probably doesnt have Direct Rendering meaning no 3d
[05:34] <ikonia> Stiev2 ok - so when you do a vgdisplay -v how much space does it show available in PE
[05:34] <MrPink> iokona: Hmm now it asked for my root pw and it worked, as far as it was doing something, but after it was done loadng I cant tell any change... is there a way to see what exactly the program is doing ?
[05:34] <henry_> hi
[05:34] <pwnt-> Alfadir_: you can uninstall from menu > wine > steam > uninstall
[05:34] <Alfadir_> pwnt-, wine-0.9.46
[05:35] <ikonia> MrPink you wrote it
[05:35] <Alfadir_> Pici, no there isnt
[05:35] <ikonia> MrPink your changing the size of all the jpeg images
[05:35] <Pici> Alfadir_: hold on, let me find the command
[05:35] <pwnt-> Alfadir_: okay hm, look try this before uninstalling, give me some changes in the configuration and it might work
[05:35] <Alfadir_> ty
[05:35] <Stiev2> 15
[05:35] <MrPink> ikonia: Yeah that is what it should do, but the size is the same as before
[05:35] <henry_> what are you on about
[05:35] <pwnt-> Alfadir_: write "winecfg" then go to audio, what do you checked there?
[05:35] <ikonia> Stiev2 15 PE free ? that can't be right
[05:35] <Mahariya> If I learn Ubuntu, does it mean that I know other linuxes also - ReHat, Gentoo, Debian
[05:35] <Meroigo> xsacha, yeah... does 3D break on the whole system then?
[05:35] <Stiev2> lol- that's what I'm saying
[05:35] <ikonia> MrPink run convert manually against one file then see what it does
[05:35] <ikonia> Mahariya no
[05:36] <Stiev2> my 40GB only has 15 free, I believe
[05:36] <MrPink> ok, one sec
[05:36] <Alfadir_> pwnt-, it said no audiodriver was selected so it selected OSS driver:P
[05:36] <xsacha> Meroigo: just the second monitor
[05:36] <henry_> eh?
[05:36] <ikonia> Stiev2 show me the output of vgdisplay -v vg00 in a pastebin please
[05:36] <Stiev2> ok, can I pm you?
[05:36] <SuperLag> Are there alternative mirrors that are still official? I'm getting only 10-20k/sec from the main us.archive.ubuntu.com mirror
[05:36] <Alfadir_> pwnt-, but that dosnt explain the lag I experienced:/
[05:36] <pwnt-> Alfadir_: change that to ALSA
[05:36] <ikonia> Stiev2 best in a pastebin so I can re-refecnces it
[05:36] <xsacha> Meroigo: some 3d things may try to work on both monitors though and stop if they cant get on to the second monitor
[05:37] <klumpe> !de
[05:37] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:37] <pwnt-> Alfadir_: maybe you havent followed a new installation guide when you start installing steam w/ wine
[05:37] <Meroigo> xsacha, well, it's broken everywhere. If i run glxgears it doesn't turn smoothly,and yes, if i take that window to the extra screen, it's black. but still, hardware 3D are broken after installing another screen
[05:37] <Alfadir_> okay thanks, pwnt-
[05:37] <Veros> hello?
[05:37] <ikonia> hello back
[05:37] <pwnt-> Alfadir_: there are few settings you need to follow, so that steam runs smooth. also depends on your hardware if its supported for the game...
[05:37] <Pici> Alfadir_: run this application from alt-f2 or the terminal: uninstaller
[05:37] <Veros> how different are Ubuntu and other linuxes?
[05:37] <pwnt-> Alfadir_: np. try ALSA sound, then try to run steam, see what will happen
[05:37] <SpiderPig> how do i change the icon pictures? and i know how to change them seperately but how do i change for example that all *.mp3 files will have a certain icon picture?
[05:38] <Stiev2> ikonia: is vg00 supposed to be where my vg goes?
[05:38] <ikonia> Veros thats a generic statment, very different for some, not so different for others
[05:38] <Alfadir_> okay, thanks for all the help:)
[05:38] <TheWood> Veros you need to be more specific
[05:38] <ikonia> Stiev2 yes, what ever your volume group name is, default is vg00
[05:38] <xsacha> Meroigo: work still being done in that area.. im lucky i only have one screen hehee
[05:38] <UberPsyX> what channel can i join for advice on ubuntu applications?
[05:38] <Veros> What I wanna know, when I learn ubuntu, do I get knowledge for other linux-OSes?
[05:38] <ikonia> UberPsyX: your in the right place
[05:38] <ikonia> Veros not really no
[05:38] <MrPink> ikonia: when I do it on one file it works...
[05:38] <ikonia> Veros only very generic
[05:38] <xsacha> Meroigo: if you have nvidia, you should be able to get it working perfect
[05:38] <Yoriel> i cant put my resolution in 1024 x 768
[05:38] <Pici> !debian | Veros
[05:38] <ubotu> Veros: Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[05:39] <pwnt-> Veros: linux-distro basics? Yeah.
[05:39] <ikonia> hang on
[05:39] <Stiev2> ikonia: how do I do a pastebin?
[05:39] <ikonia> !pastebin > stiev2
[05:39] <Yoriel> my video is a GF FX5200 DDR TV DVI
[05:39] <UberPsyX> ikonia, oo ok thanks, can you recomend a good video editor that allows you to record off webcam and microphone?
[05:39] <ikonia> UberPsyX I've no idea, I dont do that sort of thing, sorry
[05:39] <genii> Veros: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Linux_distributions
[05:39] <pwnt-> Veros: I mean you will have fully idea of linux, if ubuntu your first? then you'll have a good idea of how linux in total works. and the next distro you gonna use will be so easy to learn.
[05:39] <pike_> Veros: basically yes. the same gnome desktop environment or kde is present in most os default installs. also the termial stuff will be the same except the package management
[05:39] <Yoriel> who can help me to find the correct driver
[05:39] <Veros> are applications intercompatibles between different distros?
[05:39] <UberPsyX> ikonia, ok np
[05:39] <Yoriel> ?
[05:40] <erUSUL> !nvidia | Yoriel
[05:40] <ubotu> Yoriel: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:40] <Yoriel> yes
[05:40] <Stiev2> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39646/
[05:41] <ikonia> MrPink: http://pastebin.com/m21fa12fb
[05:41] <Alfadir_> pwnt-, no audio and I tried audio test in the cfg but it said failed on bouth ALSA and OSS
[05:41] <Meroigo> xsacha, i don't. i just have ati. :) gona try mergedfb and see if that works.
[05:41] <niki_> Hello
[05:42] <ikonia> Stiev2 you have a logical volume thats eating up all your space
[05:42] <ikonia> Stiev2: lvol0 is 1.3TB
[05:42] <pwnt-> Alfadir_: I'd suggest you to follow an installation guide from the scratch. because it works perfect for me.
[05:42] <Stiev2> ikonia: ?
[05:42] <Stiev2> yes
[05:42] <roaet> What is a quick way to synchronize time?
[05:42] <ikonia> Stiev2 thats why you've only got a bit free
[05:42] <pwnt-> Alfadir_: check your notice
[05:42] <Stiev2> brand new 500GB that was just added recently
[05:42] <roaet> (in the terminal?)
[05:42] <Alfadir_> okay, pwnt- :) ty
[05:42] <ikonia> Stiev2 so whats the problem
[05:43] <Stiev2> my drives show up as not having that space (in programs such as webmin)
[05:43] <ikonia> Stiev2 what drive ?
[05:43] <xsacha> Meroigo: ok the thing is that your ati card will have a maximum texture size of 2048x2048
[05:43] <vince__> Are the Myspace users present here experimenting the same problem as me? I can't detach the "standalone player" on music pages with firefox. Is anyone familiar to this issue?
[05:43] <Stiev2> I'm sorry, my LVM shows up as not having enough space
[05:43] <xsacha> Meroigo: so it wont work if your resolutions are above 1024
[05:43] <grjemo> I'm trying to install Ubuntu. I checked the disc for errors and it says there are errors in 12 files! It says press any key to reboot. What can I do to fix the files?
[05:43] <Stiev2> it only shows 60MB left, but the drive is brand new
[05:43] <dorto> roaet: Right-click on date applet on top panel, select Adjust Date and Time -> Synchronise Now
[05:43] <MrPink> ikonia so it doesn't work to just replace the old files ?
[05:44] <RB2> hi, can someone tell me how i change the console resolution (im using ubuntu without X) ^
[05:44] <MrPink> the new script worked, but it created a bunch of new files
[05:44] <roaet> dorto: I'm in command line. I can't do that. :(
[05:44] <niki_> Question, how can you manually assign a lease to a mac address?
[05:44] <ikonia> MrPink: no idea, just took a glance at the man page, the new files should be resized for you
[05:44] <dorto> roaet: woops :)
[05:44] <xsacha> Meroigo: if you can cope with 2x 1024x768, you can have dual monitor 3d working fine
[05:44] <ikonia> Stiev2 you've not extended the file system on the lvm
[05:44] <ikonia> Stiev2 have you done an lvextend
[05:44] <niki_> i need a different lease time for one address than for others
[05:44] <ikonia> Stiev2: I assume so
[05:44] <Alucardx86> anyone know how to enable dvd playback in 7.10?
[05:44] <Meroigo> xsacha, bleh, i don't want that =/ i want 1280x1024 on each..
[05:44] <xsacha> :(
[05:45] <Veros> are applications intercompatible between different distros?
[05:45] <Imsdle> Hi all.. i don't understand this line Set iTunes to use a virtual desktop in winecfg, also set wininet.dll to "native".
[05:45] <ikonia> Stiev2 n, they hav to be packaged for the right distro
[05:45] <ikonia> !offtopic >veros
[05:45] <Alucardx86> ??
[05:45] <xsacha> Veros: as long as source code is available
[05:45] <Stiev2> ikonia: but I did that- sudo lvextend -l 467GB (or something like that)
[05:45] <ikonia> Stiev2: ignore that
[05:45] <Stiev2> lol
[05:45] <Stiev2> k
[05:45] <Alucardx86> hello everyone
[05:45] <ikonia> Stiev2 thats right, so you've extended the volume, you've not extended the file system
[05:45] <xsacha> Veros: should be able to get any linux application on any linux distro
[05:45] <ikonia> Stiev2 you need to extend the file system
[05:45] <Stiev2> ah
[05:45] <Stiev2> ok
[05:45] <Alucardx86> i need to install amarok, and dvd playback but it hasnt work on 7.10
[05:46] <Stiev2> so how do I extend the filesystem? fsextend?
[05:46] <ikonia> Stiev2 you created a file system on small disk, so now the disk is bigger the file system will stop before the end
[05:46] <ikonia> Stiev2 see the difference
[05:46] <grjemo> No one is answering me! Can anyone help me.
[05:46] <grjemo> ?
[05:46] <ikonia> Stiev2: is it an ext3 file system
[05:46] <LadyNikon> grjemo: patience
[05:46] <Stiev2> ikonia: yes
[05:46] <Stiev2> all of them are ext3
[05:46] <xsacha> grjemo: can you burn the cd again?
[05:46] <xsacha> or not rewritable?
[05:46] <Alucardx86> cmon guys help!!!
[05:46] <xsacha> grjemo: oh, the disk
[05:46] <Trist_an> Anyone running KDE could explain me how to have round buttons like for example in Xchat my button for Ubuntu Servers is just a plain square and it looks quite ugly
[05:46] <frylock^> hi. just installed ubuntu feisty 7.04 on an intel celeron 667mhz, trying to work with edimax ww 7318Ug wireless network adaptor (usb, not pci). i removed all encryption from my router. when i plug in the adaptor i see my network, but when i click, it attempts to login for a few minutes and then gives up.
[05:46] <ikonia> Alucardx86 drop the attitude
[05:47] <grjemo> xsacha: I will burn it onto a new cd
[05:47] <xsacha> grjemo: with fsck?
[05:47] <grjemo> xsacha: fsck?
[05:47] <foxiness> i want two thing 1-return default ubuntu-desktop 2-remove kde stuff, who can guide me?
[05:47] <frylock^> hi. just installed ubuntu feisty 7.04 on an intel celeron 667mhz, trying to work with edimax ww 7318Ug wireless network adaptor (usb, not pci). i removed all encryption from my router. when i plug in the adaptor i see my network, but when i click, it attempts to login for a few minutes and then gives up. tried to follow this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=400236, but after modprobe -v rt73, wlan0 still doesn't show in ifconfig
[05:47] <ikonia> Stiev2: with you in a minute
[05:47] <grjemo> xsacha: whats that?
[05:47] <xsacha> hard drive you mean?
[05:47] <Alucardx86> sry
[05:48] <xsacha> grjemo: is it your hard drive or your ubuntu cd with the errors?
[05:48] <Trist_an> I think it has something to do with gtk application
[05:48] <Alucardx86> i just want some help with dvd playback in ubuntu 7.10
[05:48] <grjemo> I think its my ubuntu cd.
[05:48] <Stiev2> ikonia: ok
[05:48] <esa_> hey
[05:48] <grjemo> xsacha:i think its my cd
[05:48] <ikonia> Alucardx86 1.) read the topic 2.) join the correct channel 3.) ask the question politly and wait for a response 4.) don't hassle people and start complaining
[05:48] <xsacha> grjemo: if its a rewritable cd just reburn with a slower speed
[05:49] <esa_> I am locking my wifi card on channel 6, could be its hopping by channels?
[05:49] <Alucardx86> topic?
[05:49] <ikonia> Alucardx86: people give their time for free and you moaning about a slow response in the wrong channel for something thats documented on the help page when you open firefox on gusty is rude
[05:49] <grjemo> xsacha: Its not rewritabe. what speed should I burn at?
[05:49] <Alucardx86> ok sry everyone
[05:49] <erUSUL> ubotu tell Alucardx86 about gutsy | Alucardx86 see priv msg from ubotu
[05:49] <Alucardx86> youre right
[05:49] <Alucardx86> im sry
[05:50] <esa_> Anybody?
[05:50] <xsacha> grjemo: well for me i can burn at full speed, but if you have issues, try reducing it slightly (maybe half of what you normally burn at?)
[05:50] <ikonia> esa_ anybody what ?
[05:50] <grjemo> xsacha: ill try
[05:50] <esa_> ikonia, I am locking my wifi card on channel 6, could be some program make it to jump another channel ?
[05:50] <xsacha> grjemo: if the cd isnt rewritable and it doesnt work (because of errors), use it as a coaster for your drinks
[05:51] <peepsalot> i can't get this damn update manager to stop pulsating in my taskbar.  it's incredibly annoying
[05:51] <ikonia> iwconfig
[05:51] <ikonia> esa_ iwconfig
[05:51] <esa_> ikonia,: i idid many times
[05:51] <xsacha> peepsalot: i just right click, quit and then i choose never run on startup
[05:51] <ikonia> Stiev2: resize2fs
[05:51] <xsacha> never saw it again
[05:51] <Alucardx86> i havent found any documentation on the ubuntu page
[05:51] <mihaX14> peepsalot: jist update :D
[05:51] <a|K|a> does anyone know how in the shell I can copy muliple numbered files?  I want to copy photos_3_1.jpg,  photos_3_2.jpg, photos_3_3.jpg  to photos_4_1.jpg,photos_4_2.jpg,photos_4_3.jpg
[05:52] <a|K|a> how can copy and keep part of the filename?
[05:52] <a|K|a> is there some command?
[05:52] <roaet> exit
[05:52] <roaet> oops
[05:52] <xsacha> a|K|a: cp photos*.jpg /dir/ect/ory/
[05:52] <erUSUL> a|K|a: cp photos* /destination/folder/
[05:53] <peepsalot> xsacha, mihaX14 well i mean, i was doing an update.  it was just taking forever.  you know when some window does an update, and it pulsates in the taskbar to show that something happend?  you can usually just clikc to it once, and it will stop pulsstaing, but not the update manager
[05:53] <frylock^> also, i'm plugging in the cd-rom and writing sudo apt-cdrom add, but it says it can't find the CD-ROM
[05:53] <xsacha> peepsalot: odd :\
[05:53] <a|K|a> I want to copy the images into the same dir but change the first number
[05:53] <peepsalot> the update finally finished though, it took over an hour on this crappy connection
[05:53] <ikonia> Stiev2: fyi: you can also specify --resize-fs with lvextend
[05:53] <ikonia> Stiev2: sorry --resizefs
[05:53] <a|K|a> so copy photos_3_*.jpg to photos_4_*.jpg
[05:53] <ikonia> Stiev2: but thats for future refernce
[05:53] <Pici> a|K|a: Thats a bit more complciated, The folks in #bash should help you figure that out, it will involve writing a script.
[05:54] <a|K|a> hrmm
[05:54] <a|K|a> hrmm was hoping I could string some commands together
[05:54] <ikonia> a|K|a: you can
[05:54] <ikonia> a|K|a: the guys in 'bash will help you
[05:54] <ikonia> #bash
[05:54] <erUSUL> a|K|a: check the bash man page about wildcards
[05:54] <Pici> a|K|a: Thats the same thing as a script ;)
[05:54] <a|K|a> word :)
[05:54] <a|K|a> thanks guys
[05:54] <ikonia> Stiev2: does that make sense ?
[05:54] <frylock^> i'm plugging in the ubuntu cd-rom and writing sudo apt-cdrom add, but it says it can't find the CD-ROM, but the autorun clearly recognizes it. how to fix?
[05:55] <Shapeshifter> which vnc viewer would you recommend instead of the standart vncviewer in ubuntu? It is kinda... crappy. especially the scrollbars...
[05:55] <ctothej> im having issues with transfering files over my network using smb. My network connection just drops during outbound transfer (it seems I can transfer from the shares without problems). I've tried smbfs and fusesmb. I changed the frame sizes from my NAS server. I have another machine with feisty that works perfectly using smbfs. I think it might be the network driver for my network card on this computer. Any help? How would i go about checki
[05:55] <OleMoudi> how easy is going to be to upgrade from feisty to gutsy when released? I have to install ubuntu and if I will have to reinstall it completely on Oct 18 I prefer to wait and dont install nothing today
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[05:56] <ikonia> OleMoudi: it will upgrade, but I like clean installs for a know solid base
[05:56] <Pici> OleMoudi: There will be a process within Feisty to just upgrade.  You won't need to re-install.
[05:56] <ikonia> known
[05:56] <Azzmodan> Ubuntu should work fine with USB audio?
[05:56] <ikonia> Azzmodan if its supported, yes
[05:56] <OleMoudi> Pici, thats nice, thanks
[05:56] <erUSUL> OleMoudi: basically when gutsy comes out the update manager will offer you the upgrade automatically
[05:57] <Stiev2> ikonia: sorry, I got pulled away- I'm going back through those you just sent
[05:57] <Azzmodan> ikonia, it's the "Microsoft Digital Sound System" I hope someone added support for it out of pure spite :)
[05:57] <ikonia> Stiev2 no problem
[05:57] <ikonia> Stiev2 just wanted to make sure I'd been clear
[05:59] <thesaint4444> can anyone share an '/etc/network/interfaces' that uses ip aliasing? - multiple external ip addresses on the same ethernet card... i want to make sure I get it right....
[06:00] <mailavj> how can i play VCDs in fiesty fawn.?
[06:00] <Stiev2> ikonia: I think it's working- I did a 'sudo resize2fs /dev/mapper/satavg-lvol0', and it's running right now
[06:00] <ikonia> Stiev2 bang on, well done
[06:00] <xsacha> a|K|a:  rename s/3_/4_/ photos_*   <-- in directory you moved to?
[06:00] <foxiness> how can i return default ubuntu-desktop to original way?
[06:00] <RaD|Tz> mx. mirrors are slow to
[06:00] <ikonia> foxiness re-install
[06:01] <Stiev2> ikonia: how long do you think it's going to take?
[06:01] <Shapeshifter> is there a vnc viewer for ubuntu that has real scroll bars?
[06:01] <ikonia> Stiev2 adding an extra 500 gig, dunno, 1 hour
[06:01] <inunova> where i could put that acpi off ?
[06:01] <mailavj> please help me.. How can i play VCDs in fiesty fawn
[06:01] <grjemo> xsacha: It didn't burn at the speed I told it to. Now there are more errors.
[06:01] <foxiness> ikonia: right click on synaptic on ubuntu-desktop and reinstall to fix it?
[06:01] <xsacha> gr :\ used a rewritable this time?
[06:01] <frylock^> need to perform sdo aptitude install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`. i'm plugging in the ubuntu cd-rom and writing sudo apt-cdrom add, but it says it can't find the CD-ROM, but the autorun clearly recognizes it. how to fix?
[06:02] <Azzmodan> oh here am I looking at how to install this audio thing, but it seems it was already auto detected and recognized as an audio device
[06:02] <ikonia> foxiness I think you'll find that won't work, I meant re-install ubuntu
[06:02] <Stiev2> ikonia: lol- I'm connected through ssh and running this from work, so I'm just trying to figure out how long i need to stay within wireless range...
[06:02] <Meroigo> i don't remember who I chatted with, but now I use MergedFB for dual monitors and it works much better than xinerama =) and was much easier to set up. and I can have 1280x1024 on each monitor, but 3D doesn't work on the half right part of the right screen :P and desktop effects is buggy so i guess I won't be using beryl/compiz in 7.10 :/
[06:02] <ikonia> Stiev2 I'd guess about an hour
[06:02] <foxiness> ikonia: this not ubuntu way :)
[06:02] <ikonia> Stiev2: actually no - less
[06:02] <ikonia> foxiness yes it is
[06:02] <xsacha> Meroigo: yeah i know
[06:02] <inunova> i got problem with that acpi error where i should turn that off ?
[06:02] <ikonia> foxiness there is no "reset to default" button
[06:02] <vince__> I can't detach the "standalone player" on MySpace music pages with firefox. Is anyone familiar to this issue?
[06:03] <xsacha> Meroigo: the texture size is only 2048, so everything over that (the extra 512 pixels on the right hand side) wont be 3d
[06:03] <ikonia> Stiev2 about 30 minutes, as its only resizing the remaining 500 gig
[06:03] <foxiness> ikonia: you win :) u bet me
[06:03] <xsacha> Meroigo: that makes compiz go whacky
[06:03] <grjemo> xsacha: all my disks are -R grr.
[06:03] <xsacha> grjemo: lol
[06:03] <Meroigo> okay, so it was that that ou meant, I thought you meant that it was impossible to have higher resolution than 1024 on each :P
[06:03] <kevinly> hi again
[06:03] <Stiev2> ikonia: great! thanks again for all your help!
[06:03] <kevinly> i havea  boot problem
[06:03] <grjemo> xsacha: any ideas?
[06:03] <xsacha> just very annoying if you dont use 1024
[06:03] <ikonia> Stiev2 welcome,
[06:04] <holycow> !laptop
[06:04] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[06:04] <xsacha> grjemo: nup :( why doesnt it burn at right speed?
[06:04] <frylock^> need to perform sdo aptitude install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`. i'm plugging in the ubuntu cd-rom and writing sudo apt-cdrom add, but it says it can't find the CD-ROM, but the autorun clearly recognizes it. how to fix?
[06:04] <foxiness> ikonia: its nice to chat with u,have nice day
[06:04] <ikonia> foxiness: thanks
[06:04] <Meroigo> xsacha, so it will be impossible for me to use desktop effects while using mergedFB?
[06:04] <Meroigo> ever
[06:04] <xsacha> Meroigo: not if you use 1024x768
[06:04] <Pici> frylock^: is the cdrom mounted?
[06:04] <grjemo> xsacha: No idea. I'll try again. I'm using InfraRecorder. What a waste of cds.
[06:05] <Meroigo> okay
[06:05] <vasudeva> i changed the root password on my ubuntu box, and now root's cron jobs won't run anymore. any idea why?
[06:05] <Pici> frylock^: do you see it when you type `mount` on the terminal?
[06:05] <kevinly> /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[06:05] <xsacha> grjemo: yeah invest in some rewritables
[06:05] <kevinly> how do i fix that ^
[06:05] <D4N`> you tell me ;)
[06:05] <erUSUL> !ttyerror | kevinly
[06:05] <ubotu> kevinly: If you get an error on boot similar to  /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off , you can try the fixes proposed at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TTYError
[06:05] <Meroigo> is there a command I can run in the terminal to check what Hz rate my screens are running in right now?
[06:05] <Pth_Ezekiel> hello world
[06:05] <erUSUL> Meroigo: check the monitors OSD
[06:06] <KJM> hi there
[06:06] <Meroigo> oh, there. :) thanks erUSUL  :P
[06:06] <kevinly> erUSUL: thanks
[06:06] <grjemo> xsacha: I'm going to try again now. I would usually choose max, but last time I chose 24. The highest it can go is 48. What would be a good speed?
[06:07] <xsacha> grjemo: try 12 to be safe
[06:07] <Meroigo> my left screen that is connected to DVI through DVI->VGA converter flimmers a bit.. and it's not as sharp as my right screen. But, they are two different screens so the left one maybe isn't as good as the right.. :o
[06:07] <xsacha> grjemo: do your cds say what speed they prefer on them?
[06:07] <Zambezi> I found a "bug" in Ubuntu Feisty. How can I contact a developer without making a bugreport?
[06:07] <Shapeshifter> btw I just found out there's xvnc4viewer which is great and has real scroll bars. why is this old vncviewer crap installed by default??
[06:07] <grjemo> xsacha: No, it just says 1 to 52.
[06:07] <Pici> Zambezi: Why dont you want to file a bug report?
[06:07] <vince__> Zambezi, that is what bug reports are here for...
[06:07] <grjemo> xsacha:ill try 12, i have the time
[06:07] <bododo> hi folks :)
[06:08] <Zambezi> Pici, Cause I don't see it as a bug.
[06:08] <bododo> need some help for my feisty on my ibbok
[06:08] <zengen> I'm trying to checkinstall with pidgin and when it gets to installing the .deb package I get an error: 'trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/ld', which is also in binutils'.  Any ideas on how to fix it?
[06:08] <saskia> mein kleiner zorro
[06:08] <saskia> 
[06:08] <saskia> hgk
[06:08] <Pici> Zambezi: File it anyway.
[06:08] <saskia> hjkl
[06:08] <frylock^> need to perform sdo aptitude install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`. i'm plugging in the ubuntu cd-rom and writing sudo apt-cdrom add, but it says it can't find the CD-ROM, but the autorun clearly recognizes it. how to fix?
[06:08] <saskia> hello
[06:08] <bododo> anyone got twfingerscroll working on an ibook G4?
[06:09] <Pici> Zambezi: If they don't like it they'll just mark it as invalid, or mark it as a feature request.
[06:09] <Zambezi> Pici, I can PM it to you to see if you think it's necassary to file it?
[06:09] <saskia> im not speck english im speck german
[06:09] <Pici> !de | saskia
[06:09] <ubotu> saskia: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:09] <Pici> Zambezi: sure
[06:10] <saskia> _
[06:10] <saskia> hallo
[06:10] <Shapeshifter> lol saskia. geh nach #ubuntu-de ich helf dir dort
[06:10] <bododo> anyone got wifi working on a airportextreme guys :(
[06:10] <bododo> i have a very bad signal
[06:10] <Azzmodan> What's a good audio player for gnome?
[06:10] <saskia> ok und wie komm ich dahin
[06:10] <Shapeshifter> du musst anstatt #ubuntu einfach #ubuntu-de joinen
[06:10] <bododo> saskia: was ber #ubuntu-de ?
[06:11] <Shapeshifter> (saskia doesnt get how to join a channel....)
[06:11] <bododo> Azzmodan: mplayer?
[06:11] <Pici> Shapeshifter: tell him/her how please.
[06:11] <Shapeshifter> saskia: der channel #ubuntu-de auf diesem server
[06:11] <saskia> #ubuntu.de
[06:11] <Dr_willis>  /join #whatever.channel.you.want
[06:11] <frylock^> need to perform sdo aptitude install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`. i'm plugging in the ubuntu cd-rom and writing sudo apt-cdrom add, but it says it can't find the CD-ROM, but the autorun clearly recognizes it. how to fix?
[06:11] <Pici> saskia: /j #ubuntu-de
[06:11] <scag> What is the command to check the the details of my CPU?
[06:11] <Agrajag> saskia: /join #ubuntu-de
[06:11] <ctothej> where can I file a bug report concerning the sky2 driver for Marvell Yukon NIC cards?
[06:11] <grjemo> xsacha: when i tell it to go 12, its going in 20s and 30s. when i said 24, it went in 20s
[06:12] <pike_> Azzmodan: a good light player is xmms  bmp is a newer version of it
[06:12] <saskia> ich check dat nicht bin hier das erstemal
[06:12] <xsacha> scag: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[06:12] <pike_> Azzmodan: alot like the old winamp
[06:12] <Shapeshifter> saskia: tipp ein: /j #ubuntu-de
[06:12] <xsacha> grjemo: what program?
[06:12] <Pici> frylock^: I've already asked you, is the cdrom mounted? do you see an entry for if you type `mount` in a terminal?
[06:12] <bododo> anyone uses ubuntu on an ibook G4 here, please?
[06:12] <xsacha> grjemo: k3b?
[06:12] <grjemo> xsacha: infrarecorder
[06:12] <js_> whats the next version of ubuntu calleD?
[06:12] <Originooo> where to put irssi scripts to be autoloaded?  ~/.irssi/scripts ??
[06:12] <xsacha> grjemo: try another?
[06:12] <CPrgmSwR2> gutsy
[06:12] <xsacha> js_ hardy heron
[06:13] <xsacha> js_ after gutsy gibbon
[06:13] <DShepherd> !media | Azzmodan
[06:13] <ubotu> Azzmodan: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[06:13] <Pici> Originooo: ~/.irssi/scripts and then symlink them into ~/.irssi/scripts/autorun/
[06:13] <scag> Originooo: ~/.irssi/scripts/autorun (Or just copy a symlink to that directory)
[06:13] <Dr_willis> Originooo,  the irssi home page has a huge example of scripts and docs. :)
[06:13] <grjemo> xsacha:i will if this doesn't work. im about to try the disc
[06:13] <kst> Azzmodan maybe try gmusicbrowser, it's by far the best browser i've tried so far :)
[06:13] <Originooo> Pici, scag: thx
[06:13] <kst> err player, not browser* :)
[06:14] <Dr_willis> we need an IRC window open during the isntall. :) so people can chat while it installs.
[06:14] <kst> :)
[06:14] <bododo> still no PPC arround :'(
[06:15] <xsacha> Dr_willis: while its installing there wouldnt be any issues tho.. atleast very few.. and theyd be seeing all these people complaining about issues, they'd cancel install
[06:15] <Azzmodan> kst, gmusicbrowser looks quite nice, I'll go check that out
[06:15] <Dr_willis> xsacha,  :) is that good or bad?
[06:16] <`assioma`> hi, some help for a bluetooth headset?
[06:16] <Dr_willis> xsacha,  i rember the old days of isntallers having Tetris, or Solitare while you installed.
[06:16] <kst> Azzmodan make sure you read the guide, there you'll discover all the cool things about using it :) and the tray feature is a must! makes life a lot easier
[06:16] <xsacha> Dr_willis: maybe a #ubuntu-installer channel
[06:16] <Dr_willis> xsacha,  yea. good idea.
[06:16] <`assioma`> nobody?
[06:17] <xsacha> Dr_willis: have a game of Enemy Territory: Quake Wars play while installing (might make install take 5x longer though, they wont care)
[06:17] <Dr_willis> or a web browser with links to beginner guides. :)  and FAQ links.
[06:17] <mihaX14> !bluetooth
[06:17] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[06:17] <`assioma`> it's some more complicated
[06:18] <Dr_willis> xsacha,  Faq #1 - 'how to i install  " Enemy Territory: Quake Wars "  on ubuntu... '  :)
[06:18] <Dr_willis> xsacha,   i need to get that game. or should i save my $$ for the Orange box Halflife2 heh.
[06:18] <kst> get cnq3 and q3 cpma mod, all you need for a blast :)
[06:18] <UberGeekInc> Dr_willis: ET is great
[06:18] <kst> and tuxracer ofc :p
[06:18] <`assioma`> my system crashes when i try to use my bt headset, but the pairing process works fine
[06:19] <Azzmodan> Ubuntu detected my audio when I plugged it in, it also shows the correct type of device in the volume mixer but alsa mixer gives alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[06:19] <grjemo> xsacha: whats a good program i could use?
[06:20] <`assioma`> nobody with the same trouble?
[06:20] <SpiderPig> how do you put the clock on the desktop? clock screen net?
[06:21] <UberGeekInc> spiderpig: you mean like xclock?
[06:21] <JEFFmasterFlex> SpiderPig:  gdesklets
[06:21] <SpiderPig> i mean the gnome clock
[06:21] <SuperLag> good grief... is there a faster Ubuntu security mirror?
[06:22] <xsacha> SuperLag: change the country tag
[06:22] <Pici> SpiderPig: On the panel?
[06:22] <foxiness> am using vbox last ver,but still there old addition on the guest "xp" even if i remove it form the system "the icon still there on task bar",how can i remove it?
[06:22] <SpiderPig> right on the wallpaper
[06:22] <SpiderPig> in the middle of the screen
[06:22] <Pici> SpiderPig: There isnt anything built in for that, you'd need a gdesklet or other program.
[06:22] <garette> !usplash
[06:22] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[06:23] <SpiderPig> pici kthanksbuy
[06:23] <SuperLag> xsacha: I don't see any flag specified? what do you mean?
[06:23] <garette> !nvidia
[06:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:24] <`assioma`> alessio@alessio-laptop:~$ sudo hidd --connect 00:0C:55:D8:14:11
[06:24] <`assioma`> Password:
[06:24] <`assioma`> Can't get device information: Success
[06:24] <`assioma`> what does it mean?
[06:24] <xsacha> SuperLag: nevermind, i just meant in the /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:25] <SuperLag> xsacha: right. I'm looking there. I just don't see any country flag
[06:25] <thesaint4444> when adding an ip alias to /network/interfaces i.e. eth:0 should it have anything other than the ip address and netmask defined?
[06:25] <grjemo> xsacha: what burning program do you use?
[06:26] <xsacha> SuperLag: i mean like au. infront for australia
[06:28] <usser> ls
[06:29] <lyecdevf> How do I mount a floppy in Feisty Fawn?
[06:30] <Yoriel> floppy is obsolete
[06:30] <Shapeshifter> Is there a command line option that tells the application to start maximised?
[06:30] <dettoaltrimenti> im having a problem with my ubuntu laptop, it won't start up. I think it may be a hardware problem, but anyways: when I try to boot from the live cd, my computer freezes at "Running /scripts/init -premount". Any ideas?
[06:30] <[Thom] > Anyone in here use trac? trac-admin gives me "Command Failed" every time no matter what I do, any ideas?
[06:30] <EbilPhish> lyecdevf:  Does double clicking on the "Floppy Drive" icon in nautilus>computer work?
[06:31] <lyecdevf> Yeah it works!
[06:31] <gorlak> anyone know why my ubuntu 7.04 wont see DVDs (commercial or self burned) yet the drive is a dvd-rom, it worked under windows, im able to see CD's information, but the folders are empty,?
[06:31] <jo2> could someone help,so what do i actually need to install to make k3b installable
[06:32] <xsacha> gorlak: is the dvd being mounted?
[06:32] <EbilPhish> jo2: If you install k3b it should install everyting it needs at the same time
[06:32] <erUSUL> jo2: apt will take care of what is needed to make k3b instalable
[06:32] <Pici> [Thom] : Try in #trac
[06:32] <gorlak> CDs are automatically, how would i force the dvd to mount?
[06:32] <jo2> so apt-get install pkgnamehere?
[06:32] <[Thom] > Pici: I have been, nobody is in there and I'm stuck.
[06:33] <Whitor> jo2: yep
[06:33] <Pici> [Thom] : hmm... ##linux?
[06:33] <jo2> says cant find
[06:33] <erUSUL> jo2: or use synaptic or Apps>Add remove ;)
[06:33] <ithicine> m6mhdmrxqq
[06:33] <jo2> i am , it tells me it is unable to install it
[06:33] <Whitor> jo2: sudo apt....
[06:33] <ithicine> nyah!  How many keyboards can there possibly be on this table!?
[06:33] <Dr_willis> Ubuntu and apt makes installing stuff easy :) once ya learn the basics
[06:33] <erUSUL> jo2: paste the exact error in a pastebin
[06:34] <erUSUL> ubotu tell jo2 about paste | jo2 see priv msg from ubotu
[06:34] <jo2> coo thanks
[06:34] <jo2> works now
[06:34] <Whitor> sudo ?
[06:34] <zengen> I'm using checkinstall with pidgin and I keep getting errors that the .deb install is trying to overwrite files.  I've been using the --exclude option, but it just keeps adding more files I need to exclude.  Is there an easier way to do this?
[06:34] <Jamesinator> When attempting to install dante-server, dpkg fails with this error: dante[0] : fixsettings(): no internal address given
[06:35] <usser> zengen the latest pidgin doesnt work with checkinstall
[06:35] <zengen> usser: thank you
[06:35] <Mr-Nilsen> does anyone know why X fail to load with ati mobility radeon x1400 ?
[06:35] <usser> zengen use the standard make install procedure
[06:35] <SpiderPig> i use gnome-terminal. is there any other that perhaps look a little better`
[06:35] <SpiderPig> ?
[06:35] <usser> zengen although there was some patch for checkinstall, i dont remember where i saw it
[06:35] <SpiderPig> i want a terminal that i can configure a little more. i want it transparant etc
[06:35] <RichW> I need help! libcupsys2 appears to conflict with cupsys - E: /var/cache/apt/archives/cupsys_1.3.2-1ubuntu4_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/doc/libcupsys2/CREDITS.txt', which is also in package libcupsys2
[06:36] <Pici> SpiderPig: Gnome terminal can be tranparent, check the 'edit current profile' menu item
[06:36] <usser> Spider_Pig get yakuake, its a quake-style terminal
[06:36] <RichW> anyone got any ideas?
[06:36] <dv____> hello
[06:36] <Jamesinator> When attempting to install dante-server, dpkg fails with this error: dante[0] : fixsettings(): no internal address given
[06:36] <SpiderPig> usser thanks sir
[06:36] <bittin> hi
[06:36] <LM1> anyone know why firefox is so laggy in ubuntu but perfect in windows
[06:36] <RichW> oh sorry its gutsy and i should be in +1 i forgot
[06:36] <dv____> join #ubuntu+1
[06:36] <LM1> I can even run it in wine and its not so laggy
[06:36] <dv____> er
[06:36] <dv____> :)
[06:36] <LM1> *_*
[06:37] <winge-d_angel> LM1, define laggy...
[06:37] <usser> LM1 firefox in wine u perv ))
[06:37] <LM1> lol
[06:37] <usser> dv____ 115th
[06:37] <EbilPhish> LM1:  You could try swiftfox
[06:37] <winge-d_angel> LM1, its fast here for me :-D what exactly is lagging?
[06:37] <LM1> laggy like it slows down to a crawl, and you have to wait 5 seconds to close the window
[06:37] <usser> dv____ arggg 15th
[06:37] <LM1> yeah I tried swiftfox same deal
[06:38] <jo2> are these packages precompiled?
[06:38] <LM1> ive got a nice system AMD 5000+ (65nm) 2GB DDR800
[06:38] <SpiderPig> is there other than yakuake consols?
[06:38] <Jamesinator> LM1: Did you have Java / Flash / any media objects up when its lagging?
[06:38] <EbilPhish> Firefox is a bit of a pain for me too, javascript and flash can cause it to freeze
[06:38] <SpiderPig> usser yakuake looks nice. is there others?
[06:38] <xsacha> LM1: router doesnt support IPV6?
[06:38] <LM1> yes flash seems to be an issue also
[06:38] <EbilPhish> LM1:  Using any extensions?
[06:38] <usser> dv____ is it a x86 ubuntu install?
[06:38] <LM1> none that I don't use in windows
[06:38] <Jamesinator> LM1: My FF runs "okayish" in Ubuntu, but Flash or media plugins cause it to slow down to a crawl, and finally crash
[06:38] <ithicine> The latest version of Adobe Flashplayer for Linux appears to have addressed the locking issue
[06:38] <dv____> yes
[06:38] <usser> dv____ cause i think i had something similar on my system it wasnt slow to a crawl but it was pretty slow
[06:39] <LM1> I am running flash and java yes, but this happens on sites without those
[06:39] <dv____> ?
[06:39] <dv____> what are you talking about?
[06:39] <usser> dv____ then i just updated to x86_64 and everything is back to normal
[06:39] <LM1> firefox in wine seems fine
[06:39] <Jamesinator> When attempting to install dante-server, dpkg fails with this error: dante[0] : fixsettings(): no internal address given
[06:39] <INTit> is there a linux flash player for 64bit ?
[06:39] <Pici> INTit: No.
[06:39] <usser> dv____ the amd64 version and i386 versions of ubuntu
[06:39] <xsacha> INTit: linux32 in 64-bit
[06:39] <Pici> INTit: Theres way to use firefox 32bits with it though.
[06:40] <dv____> usser, never asked about them? maybe you are confusing me with somebody else?
[06:40] <Pici> !flash64 | INTit
[06:40] <ubotu> INTit: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[06:40] <EbilPhish> INTit:  Only gnash, which probably isn't that usable yet
[06:40] <INTit> thanks
[06:40] <finalbeta> !flash
[06:40] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[06:40] <usser> dv____ ahahah sorry, damn still lost in that bitchx irc
[06:40] <pyrops> hoi
[06:41] <bittin> Hi
[06:41] <pyrops> could somebody explain to me how i can reset my "keyring" password
[06:41] <devious`> i have a problem: my linux partition has suddenly gone RAW, so i cant boot from it. Why did this happen??
[06:41] <frank__> nick frank81
[06:42] <Ghismo> is there anyone who has installed cedega and tried to play world of warcraft?
[06:43] <Jamesinator> When attempting to install dante-server, dpkg fails with this error: dante[0] : fixsettings(): no internal address given
[06:43] <pyrops> could somebody explain to me how i can reset my "keyring" password... and could somebody run thru with me how to install ati drivers for ubuntu (vga: x1600)
[06:44] <ale_> y98yh                               [
[06:44] <andy_33> (:
[06:44] <SuperLag> Ghismo: it's supposedly got some support with Codeweavers Crossover
[06:44] <Jamesinator> There is no support channel. There is no support.
[06:44] <SuperLag> bonehead
[06:44] <Mr-Nilsen> pyrops: did X fail under live cd ?
[06:44] <xsacha> SuperLag: crossover is just an old version of wine with windows dlls and a little config manager app
[06:44] <pierrette> plop
[06:44] <Ghismo> :-) i've never heard of codeweavers crossovers before
[06:45] <fouad> how i can list all available wireless network in my area ?
[06:45] <SuperLag> xsacha: I know it. I've used it.
[06:45] <SuperLag> xsacha: and in their app list, they say that WoW works
[06:45] <trogdor> hmm someone recommended using apt-build to compile my system with optimized flags. What does that mean/know of any how-to for that?
[06:45] <Mr-Nilsen> can anyone please tell me why or maybe explain how or why X could fail when i ran the Live cd ?
[06:45] <xsacha> SuperLag: yeah, it also works in cedega and normal wine
[06:46] <ubuntu_> Oh Man! Why my gutsy installation frooze without any advice? It was downloading the language packages, I pressed "Ignore", and it just froozen!
[06:46] <trogdor> Mr-Nilsen: set it to use xorg, check cd for defects, try frame buffering
[06:46] <trogdor> Mr-Nilsen not xorg I meant vesa driver
[06:46] <ubuntu_> In another time, It crashed while formating (xfs filesystem) my home partition
[06:46] <pyrops> Mr-Nilsen: it installs and works, but now ive messed something up
[06:47] <SuperLag> xsacha: never used Cedega, so I don't know what it is
[06:47] <devious`> i have a problem: my linux partition has suddenly gone RAW, so i cant boot from it. Why did this happen??
[06:47] <Mr-Nilsen> trogdor: I had to uninstall and reinstall xorg-ati  while i was runing th elive
[06:47] <trogdor> ubuntu_: quit using weird partition types? I dunno
[06:47] <Mr-Nilsen> the live *
[06:47] <xsacha> SuperLag: like crossover but based on winex instead of wine
[06:47] <ubuntu_> weird?
[06:47] <pyrops> Mr-Nilsen: what is live?
[06:47] <trogdor> Mr-Nilsen: yeah ati is aggravating like that, do you have one of those newer ones?
[06:47] <lyecdevf> Xchat wont let me connect to any thing else but this channel
[06:48] <Mr-Nilsen> pyrops: live = live cd or img
[06:48] <xsacha> pyrops: live cd = not installed
[06:48] <Mr-Nilsen> the img you dl from ubuntu.com
[06:49] <Mr-Nilsen> I had to sit an config for hours since i installd ubuntu behind a nazi firewall and a big ass filter @ work.. wich ofc didn't have DHCP
[06:50] <ganes1> how can i open rar file?
[06:50] <Kaja> with unrar =)
[06:50] <lyecdevf> The default IRC does not allow me to connect to any thing besides Ubuntu Server
[06:50] <Mr-Nilsen> ^^.)
[06:50] <acidchild> lyecdevf: What the hell is "default IRC"?
[06:50] <Mr-Nilsen> lyecdevf: just connect a new server.. it wouldn't overwrite the previous one
[06:51] <lyecdevf> Xchat
[06:51] <miked> in nautilus when you use that connect to remote computer or shared disk, where does it mount that share on the FS?
[06:51] <`Matir> lyecdevf, you can connect to any server you want
[06:52] <acidchild> lyecdevf: control + T + /server irc.freenode.net ?
[06:52] <pyrops> Mr-Nilsen:  no i dont
[06:52] <acidchild> then close the othe tab
[06:52] <acidchild> miked: check 'mount'
[06:52] <pyrops> Mr-Nilsen: sorry yes i do have it installed but i wish to reinstall so that it will actually work normally
[06:52] <acidchild> xchat --help
[06:52] <acidchild> you could proby set the default host in the flags.
[06:53] <Pasteija> best humor ever http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRfdK67z9d4
[06:53] <miked> acidchild: not listed
[06:53] <pyrops> Mr-Nilsen:  im talking about the ATI drivers, not the keyring
[06:54] <lyecdevf> If I click connect it only gives me this many options but I want to connect to some other
[06:54] <ganes1> Kaja:thanx..
[06:54] <acidchild>   -a, --no-auto            Don't auto connect to servers
[06:54] <Kaja> ganes1, you're welcome.
[06:54] <P_Kable> WARNING: Your ClamAV installation is OUTDATED!
[06:54] <P_Kable> WARNING: Local version: 0.90.2 Recommended version: 0.91.2
[06:54] <P_Kable> anybody knows how to fix this ?
[06:55] <P_Kable> please
[06:55] <miked> acidchild: specifically smb mounts made are not listed with the mount command
[06:55] <mirak> Hi
[06:56] <mirak> after 4 years of daily linux usage I realise I am fed up entering my root password. Couldn't there be a way to just pop a window that ask if you want to take root privileges instead of having to enter each time your password ???
[06:57] <genii> mirak: Edit the /etc/sudoers file accordingly
[06:57] <kritzstapf> where to find GtkGLExt-Python-Bindings? i want to play chess in 3d mode ;)
[06:58] <CSS> How do I connect to a server via SSH? Can it be done from Terminal?
[06:58] <Lilacor> yes
[06:58] <Lilacor> it must have sshd running
[06:58] <mirak> genii: I know I can extend the root acces accross shells but that's not really what I want, since you lose a bit the warning
[06:58] <Lilacor> and you must have a valid login/password for it
[06:58] <genii> CSS: yes, just ssh -l name domain/IP
[06:58] <kst> ssh -l<loginname> <server address>
[06:58] <CSS> Yeah, it does, but how do I connect, is what I'm asking
[06:58] <CSS> Okay
[06:58] <kilts-R-us> noob question, will gutsy beta be able to be upgraded to stable through synaptic if i install it now?
[06:59] <kritzstapf> "ssh name@address" works too ;)
[06:59] <genii> mirak: there are a thousand things you can set in /etc/sudoers including what users never need to put a sudo password, how long it remembers you are in sudo etc etc etc
[06:59] <kritzstapf> kilts-R-us: just update after the release and youve got the same packets as if you installed stable
[07:00] <mirak> genii: and something like "be root  yes/no" ? :D
[07:00] <kilts-R-us> thx
[07:00] <CSS> genii: That worked. Thanks! :D
[07:00] <mirak> genii: is there a gui to handle that ?
[07:00] <genii> CSS: yer welcome
[07:01] <genii> mirak: No gui tool for visudo equiv that i am aware
[07:01] <mirak> I hate vi
[07:01] <intr80> vi is awesome
[07:01] <intr80> it is the best.
[07:01] <xsacha> vim is soooo awesome
[07:02] <xsacha> ive saved so much time thx to it
[07:02] <xsacha> that and RSS feeds
[07:02] <kritzstapf> mirak: visudo is using your favorite editor
[07:02] <intr80> vi has big hurdles until it becomes useful, but is awesome once you get there
[07:02] <genii> mirak: you can use whatever editor just do it in admin mode. There is extensive documentaion on all the things you can put in there from man sudoers   also tons of online examples which show how to use some of the more advanced filtering ways etc
[07:03] <mirak> kritzstapf: ok, it's joe. I am not sure where to chose it
[07:03] <goldeagle> hi, I install plone 3 and python 2.4, http://pastebin.com/m3a8b953e , I need help for create form, I need install anything ?
[07:03] <mirak> ok
[07:04] <Pici> goldeagle: Probably a better idea to ask that in #plone :)
[07:04] <goldeagle> Pici: I do, but no answer
[07:05] <kritzstapf> mirak: for a temporary change use "export EDITOR=nano" for example
[07:05] <ed_> can anyone help me configure wine so that all i need to do is right click on an .exe file and have the option to "open with wine emulator"
[07:05] <mirak> kritzstapf: can you use gedit ?
[07:05] <lyecdevf> Dpkg was interrupted you must manually run...
[07:05] <kritzstapf> not a good idea
[07:06] <kritzstapf> but nano is quite easy to use :)
[07:06] <Theyain> Why would installing (Through Apt-Get) Kubuntu-Desktop and Xubuntu-desktop and then using them with GNOME be bad?
[07:06] <usr13> ed_, That should happen anyway,  Just left-click on the .exe file and wine should work for you.
[07:06] <mirak> kritzstapf: seems it works
[07:06] <mirak> though I don't understand the interest of using visudo
[07:06] <mirak> instead of sudo and edit the file directly
[07:06] <ed_> usr13: it doesn't i need to go through applications>accessories>wine file
[07:06] <kritzstapf> o well, it really works ;)
[07:06] <lyecdevf> I can not anymore update
[07:06] <usr13> ed_, If not. just right click on an exe file and tell it to use wine to open those types of tiles.
[07:07] <kritzstapf> mirak: visudo blocks the file while editing
[07:07] <genii> mirak: Just make sure after the permissions are still 644
[07:07] <kritzstapf> its more secure
[07:07] <derek_> I need to reinstall my os, should I installed Feisty or Gutsy Tribe 5?  Which will be easier to upgrade in a week or so when Gutsy is released?
[07:07] <mirak> ok
[07:08] <highoctane> I have a problem installing phplist on ubuntu. I have it installed, but when I navigate to the http://localhost/lists/admin folder, I get an error message. The details of the error are on phplist forums at http://forums.phplist.com/viewtopic.php?t=3549&highlight=
[07:08] <kilts-R-us> derek: gutsy beta has been released
[07:08] <Mr_WAMU> Does anyone know how I can stress test my box with DOS?
[07:08] <derek_> I know, should I install that or upgrade from Feisty when Gusty is released
[07:08] <usr13> ed_,   Just open the file manager and left click on the exe file and designate wine as the application to use when opening exe files.
[07:09] <kilts-R-us> i would imagine gutsy beta would be easier to upgrade from
[07:09] <derek_> that's what I thought too
[07:09] <toem> can I declare an array  like int R[4] ={a[0] ,a[1] ,a[2] ,a[3] }; ?
[07:09] <ed_> usr13: it did work perfectly....only two more things im confused about....can I edit the name of the file instead of just having it say "open with 'wine
[07:09] <usr13> ed_, Sorry, ment to say right click.
[07:09] <usr13> ed_, Editing the name of the file would be a separate function
[07:10] <Yoriel> my video is a GF FX5200 DDR where i find a driver
[07:10] <Yoriel> ?
[07:10] <Mr_WAMU> !DDOS
[07:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ddos - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:10] <ed_> usr13: how do i perform that function
[07:10] <Mr_WAMU> !DOS
[07:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dos - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:10] <usr13> ed_, but yes, you can right click on a file and edit the name of the file.
[07:10] <Qeyz> udah blon?
[07:10] <usr13> ed_, But I don't recommend doing that.
[07:10] <Meroigo> is there a way to change how wine application looks? So they don't look like ugly Windows 98 applications...
[07:10] <ed_> usr13: o ok
[07:11] <kst> how do i install directx games in ubuntu? just open installer with wine and there you go?
[07:11] <Mr_WAMU> Does anyone in here know anything about Denial of Service?
[07:11] <usr13> ed_, Right-Click -> Preferences
[07:11] <usr13> change the name.
[07:11] <kst> !games
[07:11] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[07:12] <ed_> usr13: o ok thats easy enough then lol i thought i had to go through terminal
[07:12] <ed_> usr13: is there a way to make icons smaller on the desktop....im not really into these huge ones
[07:13] <SpiderPig> anyone in here use pyslsk?
[07:13] <SpiderPig> i gots some majour issues. i dont get any of the graphical stuff
[07:14] <Mr_WAMU> SpiderPig: Whats pyslsk?
[07:14] <SpiderPig> Mr WAMU it is a soulseek version for linux
[07:14] <SpiderPig> the peer 2 peer software for electronical music
[07:14] <uri> hey
[07:14] <Mr_WAMU> Soulseek?
[07:14] <SpiderPig> yeah
[07:14] <uri> I kinda installed the bin file of JRE
[07:14] <uri> and ot
[07:14] <jeffk> Installed Ubuntu 7.10 Beta on a Dell Vostro 1000 Laptop. I selected the Broadcom WLAN card as my primary NIC during install. How do I change that decision to be the internal Ethernet as primary NIC?
[07:15] <uri> it's kinda stuck on my desktop
[07:15] <uri> and I want to run java and there's no system associations
[07:15] <jeffk> This is post-install for the primary NIC change, BTW.
[07:15] <Mr_WAMU> Spiderpig: are we talking, computers or an individuals personality?
[07:16] <uri> how do I uninstall it?
[07:16] <uri> :S
[07:16] <bittin> apt-get remove
[07:16] <SpiderPig> Mr_WAMU seek help you troll.
[07:16] <Mr_WAMU> money
[07:16] <SpiderPig> um?
[07:17] <raky> is there a problem with openvpn?
[07:17] <Pici> !offtopic | Mr_WAMU
[07:17] <ubotu> Mr_WAMU: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:17] <raky> !openvpn
[07:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openvpn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:17] <Mr_WAMU> Shenanigans
[07:17] <_Jaak_> does gutsy run in persistant live mode from a usb?
[07:17] <_Jaak_> disk
[07:17] <Pici> _Jaak_: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions please.
[07:18] <finalbeta> !flash
[07:18] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[07:18] <usr13> is there an aoternative to gnutella ?  (I'm told there's one that works better.)
[07:19] <Bender1337> trying to install my tmoblie gc89 card in linux but cant figure out the tutorial because im new to linux
[07:19] <finalbeta> The latest linux flash installer from the site asks for a firefox install path. but it wont accept /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox.
[07:20] <finalbeta> what's the correct path?
[07:20] <axel_s> hi, I have found a bug with current gutsy... where should i report it?
[07:20] <[Thom] > How do I change which version of python my shell is using?
[07:20] <Pici> !bugs | axel_s
[07:20] <kst> finalbeta tried "locate firefox" ? should give you the path
[07:20] <Pici> axel_s: also see #ubuntu+1
[07:20] <ubotu> axel_s: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[07:20] <MrObvious> Bender1337: Do you know which chipset it has?
[07:20] <Tech-Mike> sup peeps... have a prob with gtk-window-decor and emerald... i get a Wnck-Warning ** Unhandled action type (nil)
[07:21] <MrObvious> !effects | Tech-Mike
[07:21] <ubotu> Tech-Mike: For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[07:22] <heartsblood> the Irony of my just joining was I was JUST about to ask about compiz :)
[07:22] <Tech-Mike> the thing thats thrown me off its - it was all workn fine for the last month and now wont
[07:22] <Tech-Mike> all compiz-fusion works except my window-decor now... have to resort to metacity
[07:23] <silent> hello
[07:23] <Tech-Mike> this started after doing sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:23] <mirak> genii: kritzstapf  well there is no such thing like, that ask if you want to take root rights without asking a password. It seems you can not have to enter a password but that's not very nice for application that usually pops up a window before doing anything
[07:23] <silent> Tech-Mike, you broked it
[07:23] <Tech-Mike> sure did
[07:23] <Tech-Mike> need to know howto fixer it
[07:24] <`assioma`> hi, does someone know why the hell my system crashes when i try to play any sound on my bluetooth headset?
[07:25] <silent> Tech-Mike, I find reinstalling certain things helps
[07:25] <silent> Tech-Mike, try reinstalling compiz?
[07:25] <Wikzo> Can anyone help me about getting "ubuntu-desktop" back? I installed Compiz Fusion in 7.04 but just removed it to be ready for the 7.10 launch. I had to remove "ubuntu-desktop", and now I try to get it back, but it says, that it will install a lot of the old Compiz files again. Read the bottom of this topic: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=566509
[07:26] <Tech-Mike> well i reinstalled gtk-window-decor but ya ill try compiz
[07:26] <Bender1337> MrObvious: found that tutorial http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:URdBz8NZeosJ:erikstambaugh.com/gprshowto.html+gprshowto&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a
[07:26] <MrObvious> :)
[07:26] <kilts-R-us> as far as i believe ubuntu-desktop is a dummy package that just installs the rest.
[07:26] <`assioma`> hi, does someone know why the hell my system crashes when i try to play any sound on my bluetooth headset?
[07:27] <paulowsky> hi does compiz-fusion work on intel cards?
[07:27] <hhp2k> Hello everyone, quick question: ./configure on a set of screensavers I'm trying to install ends with "configure: error: can't compile without X". Does that even make any sense, and if so, how do i fix that?
[07:27] <paulowsky> hhp2k install x development libraries
[07:27] <kilts-R-us> paulowsky: compiz-fusion runnig fine on my dell inspiron 510m 855gm chipset
[07:27] <Meroigo> Can't you add your own keyboard shortcuts to commands you've specified yourself? the window Keyboard Shortcuts you can only change shortcuts for already set commands...
[07:27] <paulowsky> something like x11-dev or libx11-dev or similar
[07:27] <Bender1337> how do i Check the console or kernel log to make a the device was detected
[07:28] <hhp2k> paulowsky: That's it! I should have thought about that. Thanks :)
[07:28] <paulowsky> kilts-R-us: what's your xorg.conf look like? its not running
[07:28] <MrObvious> Bender1337: I think ps aux | grep (devicename) does it but I'm not 100% sure. lsmod might too.
[07:28] <Gat0rvean> Can someone tell me where to save new screensavers in Ubuntu?
[07:29] <Pici> Gat0rvean: What file type are they?
[07:29] <Wikzo> Can anyone help me about getting "ubuntu-desktop" back? I installed Compiz Fusion in 7.04 but just removed it to be ready for the 7.10 launch. I had to remove "ubuntu-desktop", and now I try to get it back, but it says, that it will install a lot of the old Compiz files again. Read the bottom of this topic: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=566509
[07:29] <axel_s> I've got a small problem with gutsy.... with gnome/gconf config files cleaned from my home directory or by adding a new user and then logging in, there is no window manager in gnome desktop
[07:29] <axel_s> I have to start metacity manually
[07:29] <axel_s> whats happening?
[07:29] <esr> aptitude is annoying me with "Failed to fetch cdrom:" messages.  How do I tell it to just fetch from the net repositories and forget the CD-ROM existed?
[07:29] <Pici> axel_s: Please ask Gutsy questions in #ubuntu+1, Gutsy is offtopic for this channel.
[07:30] <Whitor> Hi, I keep getting " compiz-core: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.6.1-1) but 2.5-0ubuntu14 is to be installed" when I try and install compiz ... how can I allieviate this error?
[07:30] <paulowsky> kilts-R-us ... did you have to edit xorg.conf?
[07:31] <Pici> esr: Either remove the cdrom line from the beginning of /etc/apt/sources.list or remove the entry in System>administration>software sources
[07:31] <esr> Never mind, I figued it out.
[07:31] <esr> Thanks, Pici.
[07:31] <paulowsky> guys please, how do I get compiz fusion to work :(
[07:32] <Whitor> paulowsky: try asking in #ubuntu-effects
[07:32] <Wikzo> Can anyone help me about getting "ubuntu-desktop" back? I installed Compiz Fusion in 7.04 but just removed it to be ready for the 7.10 launch. I had to remove "ubuntu-desktop", and now I try to get it back, but it says, that it will install a lot of the old Compiz files again. Read the bottom of this topic: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=566509
[07:32] <ticked> i am trying to install ubuntu 7.04 server edition, the desktop edition sets up fine on that machine. but when ever i try the server edition i get to "trying to enable frame buffer" and it hangs there....any ideas??
[07:32] <RULR> give me athation link
[07:33] <RULR> authation link please
[07:33] <Pici> RULR: ?
[07:33] <Crozar> WEIRD PROBLEM! my cd - r / rw ( DRIVE ) cant read the burned cd's from Core.     [ 1stly i burned a cd either way ( music / data/ iso ) all have a completed successful burning process but after the eject i check for file integrity and my drive keeps flashes on and off making a sound prrrrrrrr tik tik tiktiktik tik tik prrrrr again adn again  and then no media mounted , its like im using windows 3.1 on next generation cd's :/ any help please
[07:33] <RULR> Pici: i want to auth (register) on this network
[07:34] <RULR> msg nickserv stuff
[07:34] <Pici> Crozar: 1) This sounds like a hardware problem. 2) We've discussed this and you run Gutsy, so please ask *only* in that channel.
[07:34] <RULR> i forgot
[07:34] <xsacha> mmm gutsy live cd uses closed source driver for my ATI card?
[07:34] <Pici> !register | RULR
[07:34] <ubotu> RULR: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[07:34] <Cassius> i cant get compiz work
[07:34] <Pici> xsacha: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions please.
[07:34] <Cassius> =(
[07:34] <RULR> Pici thx
[07:34] <ProN00b> RULR, this networks nickserv is default i guess, so just do what you always do
[07:34] <Cassius> i tried everything
[07:34] <Pici> !effects | Cassius
[07:34] <ubotu> Cassius: For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[07:34] <DrNick1> is there a way of setting mandatory GConf settings on a per-user or per-group basis?
[07:34] <Crozar> Pici: i burned many cd's i tested them on my friends computer it can see the data on it but when i put the cd's on ubuntu from we're it was burned it cant read nothing
[07:34] <Cassius> thx
[07:35] <Cassius> thx
[07:36] <`assioma`> hi, does someone know why the hell my system crashes when i try to play any sound on my bluetooth headset?
[07:36] <mr_toast> !codecs
[07:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:36] <Pici> Crozar: Do you have another OS on this computer that you can test under? It sounds like a hardware problem to me.
[07:36] <Alfadir_> Hi, I got ubuntu 64bit but I have downloaded the iso for 32  bit  and want to burn it, how do I do that?
[07:37] <kbrooks> question.
[07:37] <kbrooks> is there a list of things you can do to  users?
[07:37] <Crozar> Pici: how can hardware problem? i have just tested old cd's whic i got burning from the older ubuntu version 6 and 7 and with those cd's i can see the data
[07:37] <DrNick1> well, you can poke them, tease them, take their lunch away...
[07:37] <Alp`> whats the bigger community, gnome or kde? :)
[07:37] <Crozar> Pici: but only the cd's that i burned from my gutsy i cannot read but other operating systems can
[07:38] <Crozar> +
[07:38] <Cassius> how can i do a downgrade from gutsy to feisty?
[07:39] <silent> anyone here know of a utility to adjust laptop display brightness?
[07:39] <DrNick1> Cassius: re-install :)
[07:39] <Cassius> :(
[07:39] <Cassius> damn
[07:40] <Alp`> Cassius: exactly my thoughts
[07:42] <h1st0> Anyone home or is it just this quiet today?
[07:42] <Azzmodan> Any idea how come I have to umount, and then remount my samba shares before they work? Even mount -a works, but should't that mean it should work automatically?
[07:42] <h1st0> Azzmodan: yes
[07:42] <MarcC> rkhunter found some hidden directories it wants me to inspect. How do I "inspect" them?
[07:42] <h1st0> Azzmodan: where are teh at in your /etc/fstab
[07:43] <Azzmodan> h1st0, they don't work though after a reboot, I always have to do umount on both and then mount -a, any idea why?
[07:43] <h1st0> Azzmodan: the only thing I can think is the mount point is availble right off the rip.
[07:43] <h1st0> Azzmodan: How did you set them up?  Did you edit the fstab?  Or did you use gui to do it?
[07:43] <piedoggie> I'm trying to figure out how to start an application inside of a new gnome-terminal and a have gnome-terminal remain up if the application terminates.  It's further complicated by the fact that I'm running my application as root so it can shift to the right userid
[07:43] <Azzmodan> No they are, could it be that it attempts to do samba before the network connection is up?
[07:44] <Azzmodan> I edited fstab
[07:44] <drewzf> Is there a way to do a svn checkout without grabbing the .svn folders?
[07:44] <h1st0> Azzmodan: thats also possible.
[07:45] <Journeyman> anytime I try to play openarena or any other 3D game my computer lags really bad
[07:45] <Azzmodan> Oh, it seems my backup that I had to restore still had smbfs instead of cifs, maybe that's it
[07:45] <Journeyman> it will play for 2secs then lockup for  a min or two
[07:45] <Journeyman> and just stay in that cycle until I exit the game
[07:45] <Journeyman> any idea what could cause that
[07:46] <Journeyman> it used to work fine
[07:46] <Azzmodan> Maybe you switched to the nv driver instead of nvidia or something?
[07:46] <Pici> piedoggie: I believe you can create a new profile in gnome terminal that executes a command, there is also an option in there to keep the terminal open when the command ends.  Then you can run the g-t with `gnome-terminal --window-with-profile=PROFILENAME`
[07:46] <Journeyman> Azer, no, still have nvidia driver
[07:47] <navaburo> Hello, I have a usb device that is supposed to come up as /dev/ttyUSB0 but it does not. Forums recommend removing the britty package, but i dont have it installed.... I am on Feisty
[07:47] <marielaure> helllo
[07:47] <mr_toast> whats the ppc-codecs? there isn't much info on it, so what is it for?
[07:48] <piedoggie> Pici: thanks.  I will take a look at that
[07:48] <navaburo> oops, that would be brltty which i DID have installed
[07:48] <drewzf> I'm using a shell script to do an svn checkout on a folder
[07:48] <drewzf> I need to ignore the .svn folders
[07:48] <drewzf> can anyone assist me with this?
[07:49] <twosouls82> why does my fstab rule with smbfs work when I do 'sudo mount //server/share', but not at bootup? (I wonder if it is caused by the order of the bootscripts)
[07:49] <chris_> does anyone know a good doc program for gnome?
[07:50] <boris> what filesystem does ubuntu use ?
[07:50] <Pici> chris_: doc?
[07:50] <Pici> boris: ext3 by default.
[07:50] <chris_> dock
[07:50] <Pici> chris_: kiba-dock or avant-window-navigator
[07:50] <chris_> like a launcher program?
[07:51] <chris_> kiba-dock will run with just gnome?
[07:51] <boris> Pici thank you
[07:51] <chris_> for some reason i can't use the desktop effects in ubuntu and it really sucks
[07:52] <ePirate> hey
[07:52] <Pici> chris_: yes, it should.
[07:52] <ePirate> can anybody tell me how to install wine on ubuntu 7.10?
[07:52] <chris_> ok
[07:53] <chris_> thanks alot pici
[07:53] <Pici> !away | Pika|zZz
[07:53] <ubotu> Pika|zZz: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[07:53] <D4N`> hi
[07:53] <Pici> !away > Pika|zZz (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[07:54] <ePirate> anybody help me?
[07:54] <Dr_willis> !ask
[07:54] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:54] <Pici> ePirate: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions please.
[07:54] <Crozar> Pici: but only the cd's that i burned from my gutsy i cannot read but other operating systems can
[07:55] <Pici> Crozar: Other operating systems running on your hardware?
[07:55] <thekooki3guy> Crozar: read here: http://tinyurl.com/8ty
[07:55] <santacruze> hello
[07:55] <thekooki3guy> hi santacruze
[07:55] <Crozar> pici yes
[07:55] <santacruze> what's up
[07:55] <ePirate> how do i install wine on ubuntu?
[07:55] <Crozar> Pici: i installed my toshiba recovery windows xp cd
[07:55] <Crozar> i can write read
[07:55] <Crozar> i have a cd burned from feisty and gutsy can read it =) feisty also aswel , but i think this upgrade has a weirdd bugg =/
[07:56] <IndyGunFreak> what is it with people constantly posting that link
[07:56] <Vlet> ePirate: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine
[07:56] <ePirate> cheers
[07:57] <poningru_> ux
[07:57] <Crozar> IndyGunFreak: Hello
[07:58] <IndyGunFreak> Crozar: greetings
[07:58] <Crozar> i will post something weird i hope you can undersatnd what i mean please.
[07:58] <Crozar> [ CD-R/RW drive cant read the burn substances of its own / but other operating systems can read them . however the drive can read any other cd's which wasnt burned from its own substance .
[07:58] <Crozar> is this to do with gutsy?
[07:58] <Crozar> i have a cd burned from feisty and gutsy can read it =) feisty also aswel , but i think this upgrade has a weirdd bugg =/ ] 
[07:58] <Pici> Crozar: Log the bug then.
[07:59] <[Thom] > IndyGunFreak: What is the linux command that tells you where a command is executing from?
[07:59] <lamego> [Thom] , which command
[07:59] <Crozar> i cant do a coherent sentence very well =/
[07:59] <noob69> hello everyone
[07:59] <IndyGunFreak> [Thom] : i'm not exactly sure.
[07:59] <IndyGunFreak> !command
[07:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about command - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:59] <[Thom] > lamego:  thank ou
[07:59] <[Thom] > lamego: thank you
[07:59] <noob69> got a question
[07:59] <IndyGunFreak> Crozar: what are you burning, an image(like an ISO file) or just files, or what?
[08:00] <Crozar> anything
[08:00] <der0b> how can I omit "." from the output of "find . -maxdepth 1 -type d"?  I'm trying script up creation of archives and it's creating an archive named "..7z"
[08:00] <Crozar> IndyGunFreak: anything / music / files /iso anything
[08:00] <[Thom] > lamego: now how do I change it so the command 'python' executes something different that /usr/local/bin/python ?
[08:00] <noob69> whats a difference between a hub, a switch, and a wireless router
[08:00] <IndyGunFreak> Crozar: doesn't make sense, i've had no issues with my CD/DVDR, and windows/linux boxes.
[08:00] <lamego> [Thom] , you don't, commands are executed by searching on the PATH variable
[08:00] <Crozar> IndyGunFreak: i didnt have issue until 3 days ago i dont know what kind of updates came up about 131 updates
[08:00] <IndyGunFreak> noob69: if i recall, a hub and switch don't basically share a connection, a router does.
[08:00] <lamego> well, you can change the PATH var
[08:00] <Crozar> IndyGunFreak: after the update this bug came up
[08:01] <IndyGunFreak> Crozar: sorry, i have no logical explanation for that.
[08:01] <[Thom] > lamego: Is that in .bashrc ?
[08:01] <wolny> lamego : what about "alternative" program ? ;] 
[08:01] <lamego> [Thom] , for the user, yes
[08:01] <recon> If System->Preferences->Desktop Effects doesn't work for me, does that mean compiz-fusion won't work for me if I set it up manually?
[08:01] <IndyGunFreak> noob69: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&defl=en&q=define:Hub&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title
[08:01] <sebas891> hi, I'm trying to boot a laptop with ubuntu, but it freezes after acpi_pm has been installed...
[08:01] <sebas891> any idea?
[08:01] <Crozar> IndyGunFreak: i Burn cd's succesfully i see the lights flashing on and off everything goes smooth on low speeds and high , on a CDR ( cd ) tho. and then when i test to see if theyr is data it cant mount cd its like i have inserted blueray on a cd drive or DVD cd on a cd rom drive
[08:02] <noob69> right now i have a 4-port wireless router but i need more ports so could i just plug in a switch and be able to have more ports
[08:02] <IndyGunFreak> noob69: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=define%3Aswitch&btnG=Search
[08:02] <sebas891> I'm not sur on how to pass the parameters no to disable acpi?
[08:02] <IndyGunFreak> noob69: i don't think so, can't you just make the devices wireless, or is there a limit on wireless connections?
[08:02] <nunofgs> JOIN #ubuntu+1
[08:02] <Crozar> IndyGunFreak: but when i burn on a CDRW ( cd ) after all the completion in the end when testing if theyr is files my ubuntu thinks its an empty cd it asks me what to do =/
[08:03] <IndyGunFreak> Crozar: i'm sorry, i have no explanation for your problem.. ou just repeating yourself to me is only falling on deaf ears, i've already told you i don't have an explanation.. repeating yourself doesn't make me come up with one
[08:03] <navaburo> join #wine
[08:03] <PhenGy> how come i cannot use WINSCP to  ftp into  my Ubunto Box? I can only do telnet?  I install FTP client already on ubuntu
[08:04] <IndyGunFreak> noob69: why not just get an 8port router?
[08:04] <Meroigo> Can't you add your own keyboard shortcuts to commands you've specified yourself? the window Keyboard Shortcuts you can only change shortcuts for already set commands....
[08:04] <navaburo> you need an ftp server to ftp in, PhenGy
[08:04] <Crozar> IndyGunFreak: but you understand what is wrong right?
[08:04] <veles>  ?
[08:04] <IndyGunFreak> Crozar: yes
[08:04] <Pici> !ru | veles
[08:04] <ubotu> veles:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[08:04] <noob69> i was thinking about that
[08:04] <Crozar> IndyGunFreak: you think its to do with some core files update with ubuntu?
[08:04] <IndyGunFreak> i don't know..
[08:04] <IndyGunFreak> i told you that
[08:04] <IndyGunFreak> noob69: thats probably what i woudl do.
[08:04] <Crozar> IndyGunFreak: or something to do with the options of my CD Drive whhere i must change sr0 to sr1?
[08:05] <noob69> i do have another wireless router but different brand name
[08:05] <veles>      ( )
[08:05] <Crozar> but i dont know where is that located!
[08:05] <Crozar> how to file a bug
[08:05] <Crozar> !b ug
[08:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about b ug - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:05] <IndyGunFreak> noob69: do they even make 8 port wireless?
[08:05] <Crozar> !bug
[08:05] <nunofgs> HELP! I did the upgrade to gutsy and now my system will not boot. It hangs at "md: md0 stopped" and after a while it drops to a command line saying: "/dev/hdb2 does not exist".
[08:05] <Pici> nunofgs: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions please.
[08:05] <nunofgs> oops, wrong channel, sorry
[08:06] <Crozar> how to file a bug
[08:06] <nunofgs> thought I did join #ubuntu+1 :/
[08:06] <SuperLag> is there a way to insert a stub for a package, so it will seem like it is installed?
[08:06] <Pici> Crozar: bugs.ubuntu.com
[08:06] <SuperLag> I want to uninstall nvidia-kernel-common, but keep its dependencies
[08:06] <Heman> Hello, I need assitance I can't see any of the tops to my windows so I can't drag them around anymore its really annoying cause I can't close them without right clicking either, help please. :) Thankyou
[08:06] <tiax> I'm using sbackup, but I don't want to backup ".svn" dirs with it. I tried excluding "\.svn" via regexp but that didn't do the tricks. How would I exclude any dir named ".svn"?
[08:06] <c1|freaky> how to switch to a different runloevel?
[08:06] <c1|freaky> runlevel
[08:06] <c1|freaky> i forgot how to do that :
[08:07] <SuperLag> c1|freaky: init <runlevel>
[08:07] <c1|freaky> thx
[08:07] <scguy318_2> Heman: using Compiz/Beryl?
[08:07] <scguy318_2> Heman: #ubuntu-effects if that's the case, they probably know more about it
[08:07] <derek_> I just installed a fresh copy of Gutsy tribe 5 (server), I need to mount the 2nd ext2 partition on the same hd.  how do I do that?  how do I even view what partitions are available to mount?
[08:07] <noob69> has anyone use those ethernet devices that you plug to your electrical outlet
[08:07] <tiax> SuperLag: equivs would do that
[08:07] <scguy318_2> SuperLag: there is a concept of a transitional package, but I dunno how to create such a package
[08:08] <scguy318_2> derek_: for the latter, sudo fdisk -l
[08:08] <Heman> scguy: yes I am but its not fully installed yet as I get an error but noone replys in ubuntu-effects
[08:08] <scguy318_2> Heman: what's the error?
[08:09] <derek_> @scguy318_2: I tried that, and it showed nothing
[08:09] <Heman> scguy: when I try to install fusion-icon it says I don't have compizconfig-python and I check and its not there but I have python-compizconfig installed instead...?
[08:09] <SuperLag> tiax: equivs?
[08:10] <PirateHead> How do I set the language as Spanish in OOo?
[08:10] <PirateHead> That is, the spellcheck language?
[08:10] <Heman> scguy: sorry for being slow at typing today but I might have broken my finger in going to A & E tommorow
[08:11] <scguy318_2> Heman: no problem
[08:11] <scguy318_2> Heman: what repo are you using?
[08:11] <tiax> SuperLag: it's the name of the program that creates dummy packages to statisfy dependencies
[08:11] <Heman> scguy: sorry whats a repo again? ubuntu if thats anyhelp
[08:11] <scguy318_2> Heman: you're using official packages?
[08:12] <scguy318_2> derek_: sudo fdisk -l shows nothing? strange
[08:12] <Heman> scguy: yes
[08:12] <dwxreaper> how do i tell what version of ubuntu i have
[08:12] <Pici> dwxreaper: lsb_release -a in a terminal
[08:13] <scguy318_2> dwxreaper_ lsb_release command -a
[08:13] <Heman> scguy: I tryed to re-install the latest version of compiz...
[08:13] <scguy318_2> Heman: strange, are you Feisty or Gutsy?
[08:13] <Heman> scguy:feisty
[08:13] <scguy318_2> Heman: did you add anything to your sources?
[08:13] <SuperLag> The stock nvidia drivers in the Ubuntu repos will not do 1440x900, but the drivers from nvidia.com will. However, getting those drivers requires getting rid of nvidia-kernel-common. But I don't want to get rid of nvidia-kernel-common's dependencies.
[08:13] <Heman> scguy: sources? Im not sure I just followed the steps on the ubuntu website
[08:14] <Heman> scguy: all effects work but I just no longer have any top to my windows
[08:14] <dynamicss> yes is there anyway that i can have files from my laptop auto sync to my server once a day?
[08:14] <scguy318_2> Heman: gtk-window-decorator you might have to start I think
[08:14] <Heman> scguy: explain please...
[08:14] <p3t3r> !list
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[08:14] <scguy318_2> SuperLag: have you reconfigured the refresh rates in xorg.conf?
[08:15] <scguy318_2> Heman: Alt-F2, gtk-window-decorator & perhaps
[08:15] <dwxreaper> !freenx
[08:15] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[08:15] <zcat[1] > advanced beryl options > rendering path > copy  fixed the no-windowbar problem here.. not sure about compiz
[08:15] <scguy318_2> Heman: i could be wrong since I never used Compiz, but you might have to start that program on startup (prob add to your startup list)
[08:15] <SuperLag> scguy318_2: doesn't even get that far... because the nvidia module doesn't load
[08:15] <p3t3r> how i can download somthing with xchat?
[08:15] <p3t3r> !list
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[08:15] <Heman> scguy: ok ill try thanks...
[08:16] <SuperLag> scguy318_2: and I don't believe nv will do 1440x900
[08:16] <PirateHead> How do I set the spellcheck language to Spanish in OOo?
[08:16] <zcat[1] > also you run compiz-manager or something, not compiz directly, because it has to have the window decorator and stuff..
[08:16] <Heman> scguy: nothing happened I will try the compiz-fusion IRC thankyou though :)
[08:17] <p3t3r> !list
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[08:17] <Pici> p3t3r: This is not that kind of channel.
[08:18] <coreymon77> !botabuse | p3t3r
[08:18] <zcat[1] > PirateHead: format > Character > Language
[08:18] <ubotu> p3t3r: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[08:18] <scguy318_2> Heman: np, wish I knew more
[08:18] <scguy318_2> SuperLag: isn't it a matter of setting your monitor values in xorg.conf?
[08:18] <scguy318_2> SuperLag: the refresh rates
[08:18] <zcat[1] > does anyone else think OOo's language settings are in a very non-intuative place?
[08:19] <Synergy> Does anyone here know if a D-link Range booster N DWA-542 wireless network card is compatible with Ubuntu in any way shape or form?
[08:19] <nbkr> zcat[1] , It's in fact very intuative. So you can have spell-checking in multi-language documents.
[08:20] <PirateHead> zcat[1] : that seems to disable spellchecking entirely. It won't mark any words as misspelled, no matter what I type.
[08:20] <coreymon77> PirateHead: did you install the spanish dictionaries?
[08:20] <MarcC> does using firestarter activate a firewall, or is it using the existing, already running firewall?
[08:20] <zcat[1] > PirateHead: you probably don's have the dictionary for that language.. abc-tick next to the language on hte menu?
[08:20] <PirateHead> coreymon: not manually. How do I do that?
[08:20] <PhenGy> what FTP software packet must I download on Ubuntu so I can FTP in from another computer?
[08:20] <scguy318_2> Synergy: knowing the chipset would help, but ndiswrapper could probably load it
[08:20] <scguy318_2> !ftpd | PhenGy
[08:20] <ubotu> PhenGy: FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd, !MuddleFTPd, !wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[08:20] <coreymon77> PirateHead: file-wizards-install dictionaries
[08:21] <scguy318_2> PhenGy: client or server?
[08:21] <scguy318_2> PhenGy: you're probably looking for client tbh
[08:21] <scguy318_2> !ftp | PhenGy
[08:21] <PhenGy> im guessing server if i want to be able to ftp to ubuntu from another machine
[08:21] <ubotu> PhenGy: FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[08:21] <Bender1337> !KDE
[08:21] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.
[08:21] <[Thom] > How do I uninstall python version 2.5 ?
[08:21] <Fodev> hi all.... help me. How to do 2 ips. 192.168... and 89.223.113.... for local network and internet
[08:21] <PhenGy> ok
[08:22] <PhenGy> thx
[08:22] <zcat[1] > no mori dictionary?
[08:22] <mr_toast> !codec
[08:22] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:22] <Bender1337> !python
[08:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about python - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:22] <scguy318_2> Fodev: what do you mean
[08:22] <PirateHead> file/wizards/install dictionaries doesn't actually install anything -- I'm confused. :-(
[08:22] <Synergy> Scguy318_2: I tried getting ndiswrapper and ubuntu on my computer.. I ran into alot of problems, considering I have no clue how to use Linux, but I am wanting to switch.
[08:22] <coreymon77> PhenGy: if you want to ftp into the computer, server, if its this computer doing the ftp'ing to somewhere else, client
[08:22] <pepo> i have problem with the kernel 2.6.20.15 how i can downgrade ?
[08:22] <coreymon77> PirateHead: yes it does
[08:22] <coreymon77> PirateHead: you jsut have to run the installer
[08:22] <ak3> i am in a class and the prof is asking to find the name of the login process? the pid the ppid of the login shell and the ppid of the process that created my login shell..i can grep up to the init but not sure what is the login process and what is the login shell
[08:22] <PirateHead> coreymon77: run what installer, where?
[08:22] <coreymon77> PirateHead: from that file, and choose the dictionaries
[08:22] <genii> PhenGy: Yup. Most often used as far as i'm aware are proftpd and vsftpd
[08:23] <mooper> Is it just me, or is firefox a little ropey in ubuntu
[08:23] <zcat[1] > PirateHead: File menu, select the submenu 'wizards' and the option 'Install new dictionaries'
[08:23] <coreymon77> PirateHead: in that file, click on english, then click on the button
[08:23] <genii> define "ropey"
[08:23] <Fodev> with ip 89.223.113.80 i have only internet... and i dont have ethernet.... I should to add ip 192.168.1.35
[08:23] <Bender1337> !ropey
[08:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ropey - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:23] <genii> Bender1337: Heh
[08:24] <PirateHead> coreymon77: ahh, now I see how this works.
[08:24] <genii> Fodev: Better to let your router login for you and then always keep an internal IP
[08:25] <mooper> I just wondering if its me, It keeps crashing and being crap on both my lappy and desktop
[08:25] <genii> argh work. AFK
[08:26] <Fodev> but i want external ip too... for incoming conections.
[08:26] <Bender1337> can someone translate this tut to n00b language http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:URdBz8NZeosJ:erikstambaugh.com/gprshowto.html+gprshowto&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a
[08:26] <Fodev> i want interanl and extrnal both
[08:27] <vlt> Hello. Any chance to resume an interrupted dist-upgrade? The freeze seems to have happened while rebuilding initrd.
[08:27] <[Thom] > Anyone know how to uninstall python 2.5 on apache?
[08:28] <vlt> The old install (Edgy) doesn't boot anymore, and the new initrd isn't there ...
[08:28] <vlt>  ... so I only can boot from live cd.
[08:28] <octoberdan> Trying to upgrade: "Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/...deb 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.89.8 80] "
[08:28] <octoberdan> What the heck is going on?
[08:29] <Fodev> f
[08:29] <Fodev> f
[08:29] <Fodev> how to do:
[08:29] <Meroigo> Can't you add your own keyboard shortcuts to commands you've specified yourself? the window Keyboard Shortcuts you can only change shortcuts for already set commands..
[08:30] <dgjones> octoberdan, sounds like the update archive might be either busy, or having connection problems, maybe just needs trying again later
[08:30] <cre8torx> hello
[08:31] <DrX> what is the best way to mirror SAMBA file shares on two different Linux servers?
[08:31] <vlt> DrX: in realtime?
[08:32] <dwxreaper> does free nx listen on tcp port 22, or it just says it does, and automatically configures ssh, and the nxclient utilizes an ssh client
[08:32] <Crozar> IndyGunFreak Pici : i filed the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/149536
[08:32] <dwxreaper> i dont' want freenx to conflict with my ssh connection
[08:32] <Bender1337> can someone translate this tut to n00b language http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:URdBz8NZeosJ:erikstambaugh.com/gprshowto.html+gprshowto&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a
[08:33] <nbkr> dwxreaper, FreeNX doesn't conflict with ssh - it just uses an ssh connection to secure its data.
[08:33] <Fodev> ip 89.223.112.80
[08:33] <Fodev> subnet mask 255.255.252.0
[08:33] <Fodev> gateway 89.223.112.1
[08:33] <Fodev> DNS 89.223.112.1
[08:33] <Fodev> ip 192.168.1.34
[08:33] <Fodev> subnet mask 255.255.0.0
[08:33] <Fodev> i need 2ips in same time...for local network and internet. How to make it?
[08:34] <dwxreaper> nbkr: so it is really listening on a local port other than port 22, server side?
[08:34] <cre8torx> I had one hell of a time setting up a wireless network card
[08:35] <DrX> vlt, yes
[08:35] <Fodev> how gonna help me.... plz
[08:35] <ech0dish> what? you can't figure out how to install ubuntu? buy a computer with ubuntu already installed from me then... http://stores.ebay.com/Houston-CompCycle
[08:35] <cre8torx> heh
[08:35] <nbkr> dwxreaper, Wait a minute. I'll start my freenx server and do a netstat.
[08:35] <LinuxJuggalo> !wireless cre8torx
[08:36] <LinuxJuggalo> ooop
[08:36] <dwxreaper> nb: ty
[08:36] <LinuxJuggalo> !wireless | cre8torx
[08:36] <cre8torx> ubuntu 's pretty eazy  it's just some of the hardware out there is pretty much for windows
[08:36] <ubotu> cre8torx: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:36] <cre8torx> i allready figured it out
[08:36] <Fodev> ubotu do u know how to made up 2 ips....
[08:36] <genii> fodev: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/ubuntu-linux-creating-ethernet-alias-for-eth0-network-device.html
[08:36] <nbkr> Fodev, Ubotu is a robot.
[08:36] <Fodev> =(
[08:37] <Fodev> yhx
[08:37] <cre8torx> Yeah that WIFI doc remind me to REwrite that damn thing
[08:37] <Fodev> thx
[08:37] <LinuxJuggalo> !ip tables | Fodev
[08:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ip tables - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:37] <LinuxJuggalo> =\
[08:37] <soundray> Fodev: what are you trying to do?
[08:37] <ech0dish> i bought a 20$ camera that said it worked for 98/me/nt/xp from walmart, it don't work with anything but ubuntu lol
[08:37] <nbkr> Fodev, "sudo ip addr add 192.168.1.34/24 dev eth0" will add 192.168.1.34 to eth0 (temporay)
[08:37] <genii> nbkr: I haven't the energy to walk him thru why he should portforward from router to LAN IP instead of external IP on the box
[08:38] <cre8torx> ever thing  every blog  I read was close but no cigar  I had  to install the drivers for the wifi card of the old windows installion cd
[08:38] <nbkr> genii, Ehm, pardon?
[08:39] <cre8torx> it's up and running now no probs
[08:39] <bluefox83> how do i go about adding new screensavers to ubuntu?
[08:39] <Fodev> soundray i want to have local network and internet.... if i writing 89.223.... i dont have local network
[08:40] <stdin> Fodev: you need two network interfaces or a router/switch to do that
[08:40] <soundray> Fodev: you need to set up port forwarding on your router, so your router translates your external IP (the one your service provider supplies) to your computer.
[08:40] <genii> nbkr: His box has an external IP which he says is needed. 1 nic. Network apparently on same router/switch in internal range. Simplest wasy to meet his criteria is eth0 alias for LAN
[08:40] <Fodev> nbkr THX!!!!! all working
[08:40] <genii> stdin: See above comment
[08:40] <mariocesar_bo> Hi All ! I am member from the Bolivian Team. We just had finish a project  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BolivianTeam/Proyectos/UbuntuBolivia/UbuntuBolivia20070930. I want to share this to all
[08:41] <nbkr> dwxreaper, So, server startet. But no special port open. I think the NX client connects to ssh and then starts something on the server.
[08:41] <Pici> bluefox83: afaik, the only packages that exist are xscreensaver-data-extra xscreensaver-gl and xscreensaver-gl-extra
[08:41] <Fodev> nbkr after reload its gonna lost?
[08:41] <mr_toast> can someone help me out, Firestarter wont work none of the dhcp devices (etho 0/1) is being accepted.. I have installed dhcp but i cant seem to get firestarter to work with it. what can i do?
[08:41] <bluefox83> Pici, can we add other screensavers from online?
[08:41] <nbkr> genii, Ah, now I understand. Seems to be a strange network configuration.
[08:41] <Fodev> do i need each boot to write it?
[08:41] <Pici> bluefox83: If you find them. I havent seen anything though.
[08:41] <e\ectro_> how do you silence debconfig ?
[08:42] <nbkr> Fodev, Yes, after a reboot, the secondary IP is lost. You can add it via a init-script or via /etc/network/interfaces.
[08:42] <jorgelinux> hola
[08:42] <nbkr> Fodev, to make it stay.
[08:42] <bluefox83> Pici, i don't suppose ubuntu runs windows type screensavers?
[08:42] <genii> nbkr: Yes, he must be logging into ISP with computer thru switch/router
[08:42] <Pici> bluefox83: You suppose correctly
[08:42] <binfalse> hello
[08:42] <D4N`> hey
[08:42] <heartsblood> is it possible to ctrl-f2-f12 into a term while X is running in ubuntu?
[08:43] <bluefox83> Pici, you mean it does run windows screensavers?
[08:43] <Whinze> Hi all :)
[08:43] <coir> Are the Ubuntu servers maintaining an ungodly slow speed for anyone else?
[08:43] <genii> fodev: The site i gave you a link to earlier describes exactly how
[08:43] <Pici> bluefox83: No, it doesnt.
[08:43] <bluefox83> Pici, darn!
[08:43] <heartsblood> coir: yea I changed my source list
[08:43] <intr80> coir: there are many mirrors, choose another mirror.
[08:43] <e\ectro_> how do you silence debconf when installing pkgs?
[08:43] <lamego> coir, there are some tens of ubuntu servers, i doub't they are all slow, just pick one close to you
[08:43] <bluefox83> they have a lot better selection for screensavers than we do :/
[08:43] <D4N`> no
[08:43] <coir> heartsblood: Which did you change to?
[08:43] <Pici> bluefox83: I disagree, but thats not the point ;)
[08:43] <mr_toast> can someone help me out, Firestarter wont work none of the dhcp devices (etho 0/1) is being accepted.. I have installed dhcp but i cant seem to get firestarter to work with it. what can i do?
[08:44] <genii> heartsblood: use ctrl-alt-<functionkey>
[08:44] <heartsblood> coir: columbia.edu but just use the auto tester in the sources list
[08:44] <lamego> heartsblood, CTRLA-ALT-Fn
[08:44] <lamego> erm CTRL
[08:44] <genii> heartsblood: alt-f7 to return to X
[08:44] <heartsblood> lamego: ty sir, that's what I was looking for :)
[08:44] <PhenGy> ive just installed proFTP,  do i have ot configure it or is it ready to go after it done installing?
[08:44] <Fodev> what i must to write i /etc/network/interfaces ???
[08:44] <heartsblood> genii: ty as well :)
[08:44] <coir> heartsblood: How do I use the auto-tester?
[08:45] <genii> heartsblood: np
[08:45] <heartsblood> coir: system/software sources
[08:45] <Fodev> i have in it:
[08:45] <Fodev> auto lo
[08:45] <Fodev> iface lo inet loopback
[08:45] <Fodev> auto eth1
[08:45] <Fodev> iface eth1 inet dhcp
[08:45] <Fodev> auto eth2
[08:45] <Fodev> iface eth2 inet dhcp
[08:45] <Fodev> auto ath0
[08:45] <Fodev> iface ath0 inet dhcp
[08:45] <Fodev> auto wlan0
[08:45] <coir> heartsblood: This is a CLI-only system atm. v_v
[08:45] <Fodev> iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[08:45] <Fodev> auto eth0
[08:46] <Fodev> iface eth0 inet static
[08:46] <Fodev> 	address 89.223.113.80
[08:46] <Fodev> 	netmask 255.255.252.0
[08:46] <twosouls82> !paste | Fodev
[08:46] <heartsblood> coir: my fault
[08:46] <Fodev> 	gateway 89.223.112.1
[08:46] <ubotu> Fodev: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:46] <Fodev> what i sould to add?
[08:46] <genii> !pastebin | fodev
[08:46] <ubotu> fodev: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:46] <Whinze> I have a microphone problem :P
[08:46] <Fodev> !pastebin
[08:46] <Whinze> On Ubuntu Edgy
[08:46] <nicholaspaul> Anyone know of the command that deletes unused kernel files?
[08:46] <Whinze> It doesn't want to work
[08:46] <heartsblood> coir: I'm not sure how to manually change the source list in cli :( i'm still a noobie
[08:46] <vlt> DrX: Just an idea: Let the 2nd samba server be an NFS client of the first (or both of a 3rd pure NFS machine).
[08:46] <heartsblood> can I use a life line?
[08:47] <coir> heartsblood: I know how to change the source list, I just don't know which servers to use. :-P
[08:47] <nbkr> Fodev, http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch03_:_Linux_Networking#Creating_Interface_Aliases
[08:47] <Whinze> Bye all :)
[08:47] <coir> Is there a place to see all the Ubuntu servers on the web?
[08:47] <heartsblood> coir: http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu/pub/linux/ubuntu/archive
[08:47] <vlt> DrX: But don't know if this doesn't make mich sende in your setup ...
[08:47] <preaction> ] easysource | coir, heartsblood
[08:47] <cre8torx> how do i get my damn mp3 player to work
[08:48] <preaction> !easysource | coir, heartsblood
[08:48] <ubotu> coir, heartsblood: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:48] <nicholaspaul> cre8torx: new batteries.
[08:48] <jorgelinux> #Chaco-Corrientes#
[08:48] <vlt> DrX: *much sense*
[08:48] <cre8torx> he
[08:48] <cre8torx> heh
[08:48] <cre8torx> no
[08:48] <nicholaspaul> ...sorry!
[08:48] <cre8torx> that's the only thing i haven't figured out yet?
[08:49] <coir> preaction: That still lists the defalt servers which are goig reallllly slow.
[08:49] <Vlet> cre8torx: What application are you using?
[08:49] <nicholaspaul> I was once able to delete all temp files, inc old kernels, is there are a command to do that?
[08:49] <cre8torx> amarok or rythem
[08:49] <genii> I never understood why there wasn't just some builtin function for regenerating the sources.list without internet access. All info is available, locale, dist etc.
[08:49] <heartsblood> coir: I'll figure this out 1 sec
[08:50] <Vlet> And what kind of mp3 player? Have you tried searching the web to see if those programs support your mp3 player?
[08:50] <chrisjs169> are there any programs that would draw a fair amount of power from my power supply?  I'm trying to see if my power supply is what's wrong with my monitor
[08:50] <Flannel> genii: without internet access, what good would remote entries in sources.list do you?
[08:51] <coir> chrisjs169: It's more a matter of programs using more processing power which in turn would use more power.
[08:51] <Vlet> chrisjs169: Just run a game or something that'll consume 100% of the cpu
[08:51] <cre8torx> phillips GO gear
[08:51] <chrisjs169> coir / Vlet: ok
[08:51] <genii> flannel: Hopefully the function would see no connectivity and be intuitive enough to use apt-cdrom until internet connection is established, commentoing out the locale-appropriate repo entries you will need later
[08:52] <Flannel> genii: the alternate CD install has the cdrom as a repos by default, and it wont complain too much if it can't connect to the internet while updating
[08:52] <cre8torx> sorry philips go gear  HDD82/17
[08:53] <heartsblood> coir: in /etc/apt/sources.list change http://x.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu to http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu/pub/linux/ubuntu/archive/  That's the server I switched to last night when I noticed the slowdown.
[08:53] <genii> Flannel: The majority of users don't install from the alternate, unfortunately
[08:53] <mnemo> I would like to view a movie using my ubuntu laptop and TV-out... when I connect it and switch to AV channel on the TV I don't see anything... is there any special button I need to press to make TV-out work??
[08:54] <pike_> !TVOUT| mnemo
[08:54] <ubotu> mnemo: For help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)
[08:54] <SVisor> 205 updates, and several "not authenticated".. is this a ok upgrade to 7.10?
[08:54] <Flannel> genii: You can't use the desktop CD as a repository (well, you can, but theres only a half dozen packages on it)
[08:54] <coir> heartsblood: Ok, thanks, I'll see if it speeds things up.
[08:54] <pike_> mnemo: what card btw?
[08:54] <mnemo> Pike_: I got an intel card...
[08:54] <Flannel> SVisor: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy support, thanks
[08:55] <heartsblood> coir: I just downloaded OO.org at around ~2.7MBps =)
[08:55] <mr_toast> can someone help me out, Firestarter wont work none of the dhcp devices (etho 0/1) is being accepted.. I have installed dhcp but i cant seem to get firestarter to work with it. what can i do?
[08:55] <SVisor> Flannel: ok.. did not know that that one existed :-=
[08:55] <pike_> mnemo: not sure with intel card but i810 should work very well  just not sure how to set it up ive only really used twinview and such
[08:55] <genii> Flannel: At any rate it just occured to me why should it be neccesary to need to go to source-o-matic etc at all in the first place
[08:56] <mr_toast> my DHCP server seems  to be acting up i think it is not properly configured... can someone guide me here on what to do?#
[08:56] <SangueVivo> hi
[08:56] <Flannel> genii: It's not, unless you somehow screw up your sources.list, and can't use software sources to recreate it
[08:56] <SangueVivo> !list
[08:56] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:57] <hazman> I know that virus' and adware generally aren't written on a terribly common basis to attack linux, and i know of a few people who run debian without any virus scanners etc.. is there much of a point getting a virus scanner and such for ubuntu?
[08:57] <heartsblood> whats the channel for compiz help, desktop-effects?
[08:57] <niter3> hazman: not really
[08:58] <SpiderPig> how do i remove a app i installed?
[08:58] <niter3> hazman: I've been running linux for 3-4 years without a virus scanner and have never got a virus
[08:58] <SpiderPig> sudo apt-get uninstall ?
[08:58] <niter3> SpiderPig: apt-get remove appname
[08:58] <heartsblood> SpiderPig: sudo apt-get remove FuBar
[08:58] <SpiderPig> niter3 thanks
[08:58] <hazman> sweet; thanks niter3
[08:58] <mr_toast> how to configure DHCP?
[08:59] <nbkr> mr_toast, server or client?
[08:59] <silent> mr_toast, man interfaces, man ifconfig
[08:59] <niter3> mr_toast: Up corner right you should see the network icon. Go in there. Or somewhere under admin/sytem prefs
[08:59] <niter3> silent: Give them the easier way. geez.
[08:59] <punzada> anyone know how to setup windows in compiz to load with a specific opacity setting? I don't know the correct value to put it for 'opacity window'
[08:59] <silent> niter3, I don't know the easier way ;P I got rid of that crappy applet
[09:00] <dwxreaper> should get freenx ready for a package to be included in the main repositories
[09:00] <dwxreaper> vnc is horrible
[09:00] <Blackgoth> Is there any way to kick flash in using /dev/video0?
[09:00] <mr_toast> see im trying to get firestarter working the dhcp seems to be acting funny so i have to set it up it shouldve been done automatically
[09:00] <DM|> Can anyone link me a website where i can download the default rhythmbox plugins?
[09:00] <niter3> dwxreaper: I use it all the time. What's so horrible about it?
[09:00] <coir> Does anyone know of a good alternative to webmin?
[09:00] <dwxreaper> niter: to slow, 300ms delay
[09:00] <cre8torx> every time I plug in my usb mp3player it reads it as a camera
[09:00] <Blackgoth> coir: they say a bash shell will do ;)
[09:01] <niter3> dwxreaper: I've found it to be a lot faster then RDP.
[09:01] <dwxreaper> niter: rdp is faster, than vnc, it works totally different
[09:01] <niter3> dwxreaper: I've never seen the difference man..
[09:02] <dwxreaper> niter: that doesn't mean there isn't one
[09:02] <Shadow_mil> wow big open office update -_-
[09:02] <dwxreaper> it means you don't see it
[09:02] <niter3> dwxreaper: vnc works better for me.
[09:02] <lamego> niter3, RDP is faster, there is a great difference on the protocol
[09:02] <niter3> dwxreaper: I rather not depend on remote procedure call ...
[09:02] <dwxreaper> it is over ssh..
[09:03] <dwxreaper> anyways, it would be nice to have freenx as part of ubuntu by default
[09:03] <Blackgoth> Is there any way to kick flash in using /dev/video0?
[09:03] <heartsblood> !compiz
[09:03] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:03] <niter3> Blackgoth: what?
[09:03] <niter3> Blackgoth: X windows uses video0. Flash just runs on top.
[09:04] <Blackgoth> niter3: i want flash to use /dev/video0 as a webcam device
[09:04] <niter3> it's a freeking browser plugin
[09:04] <pavel> if i leave my desktop untouched for a while, when i get back the sound doesnt work
[09:04] <cyph3x> my sound and wifi died after i let my computer out of hibernation
[09:04] <cyph3x> any ideas?
[09:04] <niter3> cyph3x: haha .. Hibernation blows .. Linux has always had that trouble in that department.
[09:05] <genii> coir: There is as of yet no all-in-one web-based administration tool which could replace webmin.
[09:05] <niter3> cyph3x: But sometimes you can initate services to restart upon boot of hibernation
[09:05] <niter3> cyph3x: sound, wifi, etc..
[09:06] <genii> coir: If you are running some larger user system like a webserver or so, there are some tools like ISPConfig or Cpanel
[09:06] <Pskol__> anyone understand about reverse dns?
[09:06] <genii> coir: But they do not have things like disk admin or so on as webmin did
[09:07] <Blinny> Hi - New Gutsy Beta install downloaded today. After install the 3c905b NIC isn't found. lspci and lsmod shows the card and the 3c59x module, but ifconfig says you device. Any ideas?
[09:07] <Mr_WAMU> Does anyone have any docs on how to compile src?
[09:07] <pavel> when i log in from a screen saver, sound doesnt work
[09:07] <maestrojed> i have just installed php5 on my ubuntu box.  Some functions that use sendmail are not sending mail yet not returning any errors.  Does the default installation of PHP5 built for Ubuntu disable sendmail in any way?
[09:07] <amarillion> I've got a laptop that doesn't want to boot the new gutsy beta live CD. It just hangs in the middle. Is there any way I can find at what stage it hangs, so I can file  a more useful bug report?
[09:07] <IndyGunFreak> !compile | Mr_WAMU
[09:07] <ubotu> Mr_WAMU: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:07] <amarillion> As it is, it just hangs and there is no way I can find out what went wrong
[09:08] <amarillion> Also safe graphics mode doesn't work
[09:08] <Blinny> amarillion: alt+f4 ?
[09:08] <eAi2000> Hi all - I've just restarted my computer and suddenly I can't access an NTFS partition that exists on the same USB external hard disk as the ubuntu partition - anyone got any ideas how I can debug this? It's worked fine for the last few months...
[09:09] <Hilikus> what can of (good) software is there for mp3 servers?? i want to be able to stream locally at full quality but also stream externally at lower, in case i want to listen to my music from somewhere else. what would you guys recommend?
[09:09] <amarillion> Blinny: what does that do?
[09:09] <Mr_WAMU> Indygunfreak: Is compiling from source the same as src?
[09:09] <Blinny> amarillion: Shows you the console.
[09:09] <pavel> hilikus: theres gnump3d and ampache
[09:09] <IndyGunFreak> Mr_WAMU: i'm not real sure, I don't have a lot of experience with it...
[09:09] <Hilikus> pavel ok, ill check them, thanks
[09:09] <IndyGunFreak> i don't think so though
[09:09] <Shapeshifter> I'd like "vpn-disconnect" to be run automatically when I hit the shutdown button. Is there a shutdownscript of somekind where I can add that line?
[09:10] <pavel> hilikus: np, but i should tell you that this sort of thing isnt too easy
[09:10] <Hilikus> why??
[09:10] <pavel> does anyone know why my sound would work after my computers goes into a screensaver?
[09:10] <pavel> Hiliikus: compiling and setting up time and effort. make sure u understand the terminal
[09:11] <Mr_WAMU> I have a program called Enginuity.src.zip does it have to be in my home folder to be compiled? and it doesn't have a make file or anything
[09:11] <Hilikus> pavel maybe something is released when it goes to SS, or something is re-attached when back from SS
[09:11] <feo> hi
[09:11] <pavel> Mr_wamu it has to be unzipped, doesnt matter where
[09:11] <Hilikus> i work as netadmin, i think ill handle it (hopefully)
[09:11] <eltese> hi! Im gonna install ubuntu on my fairly new computer (a stationary one)... And I wonder if its best to run Feisty Fawn and wait 13 days for the Gutsy release? Its pretty simple just to update, right? :)
[09:11] <Hornet--> silent: I managed to sort the boot issue in the end. :)
[09:11] <pavel> Hilikus: its possible, but i have no idea why it would do that
[09:12] <Hilikus> check the logs
[09:12] <silent> Hornet--, that's good, what happened?
[09:12] <Hornet--> silent: adding irqpoll to the boot options sorted it
[09:12] <Mr_WAMU> Pavel I did unzip I just don't know how to start compiling it
[09:12] <silent> Hornet--, kewl, the weird pause is gone?
[09:12] <pavel> eltese feisty works pretty fine, and gutsy and feisty arent too different
[09:12] <Hornet--> silent: Indeed, all two minutes of it. :)
[09:13] <silent> Hornet--, good to hear
[09:13] <Blinny> Mr_WAMU: start terminal, go into that directory and check the 'readme', or './configure' or 'make'
[09:13] <pavel> Mr_wamu you need to cd to that folder. do u understand the terminal?
[09:13] <Kronos> hi ya guyz, i was installing ubuntu just now and i was warned that i havent set any swap area space, i was wondering just how important is this on a system with 2 GB of memory...i'm stoped in that screen now i dono wether to go back and set some swap space or continue without any
[09:13] <silent> Hornet--, how did you find the solution... out of curiosity
[09:13] <EviL_SmUrF> Hey guys, I just installed the Tahoma font into ubuntu and set it to be used for everything. However, for some reason some applications are not obeying that. How can I fix this problem? I am using gnome
[09:13] <Mr_WAMU> Pavel Yes
[09:13] <Hornet--> silent: Lots of reading, it turned up on the Mint forums in the end.
[09:13] <Hornet--> silent: it's an Ubuntu issue though. :P
[09:13] <silent> I see
[09:13] <Mr_WAMU> Pavel there is no make or ./configure file in the program
[09:13] <eltese> pavel : Yes I know =) But Im gonna update anyways when gutsy comes.. So my question is this : Is it worth downloading the beta or should I install feisty first??
[09:14] <silent> Hornet--, hehe, odd that it would appear there
[09:14] <mr_toast> is there an app in ubuntu that is efficient in time management? if there is please tell me :3
[09:14] <dwxreaper> outlook
[09:14] <pavel> Mr_Wamu go to the ubuntu pastebin and show me the contents by typing ls in a terminal cd'ed to that folder
[09:14] <Hornet--> silent: Well, it still affects Mint users too.
[09:14] <silent> Hornet--, I see. is it a hardware or software issue?
[09:15] <cyph3x> would osmeone point in the right direction abou tlearning how to use/install beryl?
[09:15] <Mr_WAMU> Pavel: I cd /home/moneyman/src changed sucessful
[09:15] <Hornet--> silent: Apparently it's to do with mixups in the BIOS
[09:15] <Pskol__> Kronos: if you have 2gb of memory you dont need to create a swap partition
[09:15] <Hornet--> silent: IRQs being misplaced and misallocated etc
[09:15] <pavel> eltese: 7.10 is feisty, im pretty sure of it, so gutsy is basiclyy outdated as i recall
[09:15] <Mr_WAMU> root@moneyman1-desktop:~# cd /home/moneyman/src
[09:15] <Mr_WAMU> root@moneyman1-desktop:/home/moneyman/src#
[09:15] <pavel> Mr_WAMU type cd ../ and there should a confifgure file
[09:15] <Blackgoth> pavel: Wrong, 7.10 is gutsy
[09:16] <EviL_SmUrF> Hey guys, I just installed the Tahoma font into ubuntu and set it to be used for everything. However, for some reason some applications are not obeying that. How can I fix this problem? I am using gnome
[09:16] <pavel> blackgoth: oh my bad
[09:16] <eltese> :)
[09:16] <Hornet--> silent: in other news, I'm now trying to get Photoshop CS3 running under Linux, by any means possible. :P
[09:16] <Shapeshifter> I'd like "vpn-disconnect" to be run automatically when I hit the shutdown button. Is there a shutdownscript of somekind where I can add that line?
[09:16] <Hornet--> silent: Any suggestions as to what to try first?
[09:16] <LinuxJuggalo> !gutsy | pavel
[09:16] <ubotu> pavel: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[09:16] <Kronos> Pskol__: thank you, tought so as well... since i've never ever noticed it using more than the odd 1GB of usage while playing games anyway...
[09:16] <cyph3x> hornet ha lemme know how it went would ya?
[09:17] <LinuxJuggalo> !hardy
[09:17] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for Ubuntu 8.04-LTS, due April 2008. For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron
[09:17] <Mr_WAMU> pavel: cd /home/moneyman/src ../configure ???
[09:17] <mr_toast> im looking for an app that will help manage my time when next to a pc... an app that I can set tasks to do on the pc based on time period etc. Is there such an app for ubuntu?
[09:17] <pavel> MR_wamu no first cd ../ thatll bring u up a directory, and in the moneyman directory should be a configure file
[09:17] <Hornet--> cyph3x, heh, fair enough.  What've you tried?
[09:17] <Mr_WAMU> cd
[09:18] <silent> Hornet--, those IRQs tend to do that ;)
[09:18] <pavel> eltes: personally if i have a working computer, id wait
[09:18] <silent> Hornet--, as far as photoshop is concerned, I would try installing via wine and importing windows dlls as necessary. Most linux users wouldn't support this method, but whatever it takes
[09:19] <eltese> pavel: Ok, thanks =)
[09:19] <cyph3x> Hornet--: i havent diligently tried anything-- i have gotten used to using gimp. but when i was interested i tried it in wine and i had the feeling i wouldve been able to get it if i dropped a couple hours of itme in it
[09:19] <pavel> blackgoth: upgrading remove all apps?
[09:20] <bluefox83> where does xscreen-saver keep it's config files?>
[09:20] <Hornet--> silent: fair enough, thanks... wish me luck. :\
[09:20] <silent> Hornet--, as cyph3x said, gimp is also a nice program, though if you're used to photoshop you will most likely need photoshop
[09:20] <silent> Hornet--, as a last resort you could get a cedega license and it should run it
[09:20] <Hornet--> silent: It's compatibility issues, I need Photoshop for collaboration.
[09:20] <Mr_WAMU> pavel: root@moneyman1-desktop:~# ls -a /home/moneyman/src/enginuity
[09:20] <Mr_WAMU> .  ..  ECUEditor.java  maps  net  Settings.java  .svn  swing  xml
[09:20] <Mr_WAMU> No make or configure file...
[09:20] <a7p> hi everyone - anyone using a working two-screen-setup? I just tried using two monitors with gusty and nothing works correctly.
[09:20] <heartsblood> is it possible to tell apt to install packages AND suggestions?
[09:21] <Hornet--> silent: and besides, photoshop is somewhat better than the Gimp.
[09:21] <niter3> silent: It's call vmware
[09:21] <Hornet--> silent: The Gimp's good, but doesn't cut photoshop's level of mustard.
[09:21] <niter3> or better yet. Wine.
[09:21] <niter3> Hornet--: But remember that's also a commerical product that's backed with millions and millions of dollars.
[09:22] <silent> niter3, i recommended wine, but yes vmware should run it, if a bit resource-heavy
[09:22] <pavel> Mr_WAMU: is moneyman the application you are trying to compile?
[09:22] <Hornet--> niter3: I know, that's why it's better. :P
[09:22] <heartsblood> Hornet--: I would disagree on the grounds that any program is only as good as the person using it.
[09:22] <Mr_WAMU> no its /home/moneyman/src/enginuity
[09:22] <niter3> silent: it's not bad at all. With now todays standard of RAM and such. It's not big deal at all.
[09:22] <Hornet--> heartsblood: fair enough, try making websites with MSpaint then.
[09:22] <van> hi guys i installed kbuntu, but i cannot acces to root under shell.
[09:22] <van> someone know the reason
[09:22] <Hornet--> heartsblood: have fun. :)
[09:22] <niter3> Hornet--: If you want to pay that $600. I rather free software.
[09:22] <Mr_WAMU> enginuity is the prog
[09:22] <heartsblood> Hornet--: I'm also not suicidal.
[09:22] <Hornet--> niter3, same tbh.
[09:23] <Blackgoth> pavel: dunno, i just installed it
[09:23] <DShepherd> van, sudo -i maybe?
[09:23] <pavel> Mr_WAMU do you know what programming language its written in?
[09:23] <pavel> blackgoth:ty
[09:23] <Mr_WAMU> java
[09:23] <Hornet--> niter3, but the point remains that there's nothing comparable, and I need that level of functionality.
[09:23] <silent> Hornet--, I believe the wine developers have their own repositories you can add to your sources.list and get the latest build straight through aptitude
[09:23] <niter3> Hornet--: what the hell does tbh suppose to mean. Is this one of your made up acrynoms ?
[09:23] <van> DShepherd: oh it work thanks yo
[09:23] <silent> niter3, to be honest
[09:23] <van> DShepherd: i tried su
[09:23] <niter3> Hornet--: then fuck off and use windows. :)
[09:23] <DShepherd> van, ok.. kool
[09:23] <DShepherd> !language
[09:23] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:24] <LinuxJuggalo> niter3: please watch your language
[09:24] <Hornet--> niter3, what the heck? 'my' acronyms?
[09:24] <niter3> Sorry for the language.
[09:24] <silent> niter3, just don't sweaar
[09:24] <lamego> niter3, please have some respect, there is some comercial software which does not have a comparable open source, we open source supports don't like it, but it's true
[09:24] <silent> Hornet--, what did you say? :P
[09:24] <pavel> anyone know if updating to gutsy wipes your apps?
[09:24] <`assioma`> hi, i've a problem with my bluetooth headset: i manage to connett it to the pc, but if i try to do a skype or ekiga call the system freezes. Never heard about it?
[09:24] <rapiecer> hello is there a unison user ?
[09:25] <DShepherd> pavel, i dont think so... but all gutsy concerns should be asked in #ubuntu+1
[09:25] <Hornet--> silent, 'tbh', which apparently he'd not heard of.
[09:25] <Mr_WAMU> pavel: how do I compile java?
[09:25] <silent> niter3, if you think gimp is at the same level as photoshop, you are sorely mistaken and your pride in open source software is clouding your judgement
[09:25] <lamego> Mr_WAMU, usually complex java apps have a build file
[09:25] <LinuxJuggalo> !gutsy | pavel
[09:25] <ubotu> pavel: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[09:25] <DShepherd> !offtopic
[09:25] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:25] <lamego> which is used with "ant"
[09:25] <rapiecer> i need help with synchronizing using ubunu
[09:25] <pavel> DShephered: o ty
[09:25] <niter3> silent: ZThat should be directed to me ..
[09:25] <IndyGunFreak> Mr_WAMU: you shoudlnt' really need to, its in the repos as far as i know
[09:25] <DShepherd> pavel, no problem
[09:25] <IndyGunFreak> !java
[09:25] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[09:25] <niter3> silent: That reponse should be directed to Hornet-- .
[09:26] <heartsblood> Am I blind or is there really no option that will force apt to install 'recomended/suggested' packages?  I'm almost positive i've done it before
[09:26] <Mr_WAMU> The program is Enginuity... I got it from sourceforge... no make file
[09:26] <silent> gimp is nowhere near as good as photoshop. it is very good, being a free solution
[09:26] <DShepherd> !offtopic | niter3, Hornet--
[09:26] <ubotu> niter3, Hornet--: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:26] <LinuxJuggalo> !windows | Hornet--
[09:26] <ubotu> Hornet--: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[09:26] <munk__> can somebody help me configure my xorg because i cant seem to get it working at all..
[09:26] <Blackgoth> silent: who needs photoshop anyway? :P
[09:26] <`assioma`> hi, i've a problem with my bluetooth headset: i manage to connett it to the pc, but if i try to do a skype or ekiga call the system freezes. Never heard about it?
[09:26] <silent> Blackgoth, people with jobs in photo editing
[09:26] <silent> Blackgoth, i would assume
[09:26] <Blackgoth> that would suck wouldnt it?
[09:26] <Mr_WAMU> Hahaha mental health insitute
[09:27] <Hornet--> Blackgoth, and serious website development.
[09:27] <rapiecer> nobody using unison ?
[09:27] <silent> Hornet--, but yeah, try wine. try vmware, then if you absolutely need photoshop... try cedega
[09:27] <niter3> I've never dug into Gimp enough to be able to make such a comparison, but I'd imagine if Photoshop is better it's probably the fact that the software is backed up with millions of dollars.
[09:27] <DShepherd> silent, Blackgoth please... go to #ubuntu-offtopic... please to talk about gimp and photoshop. this is a support channel. niter3 you too
[09:27] <Blackgoth> silent: cedega? dude! thats a old winex version that just suks!
[09:27] <lamego> Mr_WAMU, they provide .jar files, you can execute those
[09:27] <silent> niter3, precisely, the amount of money and manpower poured into photoshop is what makes it superior
[09:27] <lamego> java -jar file.jar
[09:27] <niter3> Hornet--: And like I mentioned earlier as well, wine or vmware.
[09:27] <munk__> can somebody help me configure my xorg because i cant seem to get it working at all..
[09:27] <cyph3x> ok since i cant seem to fid anyone with an answer either here or on the forums... how would i figure out whats wrong so tha ti can make a bug report?
[09:27] <lamego> assuming you have the JRE installed
[09:27] <Mr_WAMU> Photoshop is by far better than GIMP
[09:28] <pavel> Mr_WAMU are java and java developement installed?
[09:28] <silent> Blackgoth, it is very much new
[09:28] <silent> Blackgoth, it was winex, but it is still under development, doing better than wine last I heard
[09:28] <LinuxJuggalo> niter3: its sad but true the gimp does not compare to the quality of photoshop
[09:28] <Mr_WAMU> Yeah
[09:28] <Psyber> hello everyon
[09:28] <Blackgoth> I prefer wine from the winehq site anyway. faster. better support
[09:28] <Mr_WAMU> I have a java console
[09:28] <Mr_WAMU> I have java installed
[09:28] <silent> Blackgoth, not faster, not better support, free
[09:28] <Mr_WAMU> No jar files
[09:28] <lamego> Mr_WAMU, download the jar version
[09:28] <Mr_WAMU> They are ALL .java
[09:29] <niter3> Hornet--: May I ask, I'm guesing the level of photo manipulating you're doing obviously has to be done at Photoshop?
[09:29] <lamego> there is a .jar for 0.4 RC 2
[09:29] <sebas891> any idea why, the boot process get stuck at 5.94000 time: acpi_pm clocksource has been installed.
[09:29] <Mr_WAMU> Its only came in a .src.zip
[09:29] <Blackgoth> silent: so you can see if my wine is faster or slower than cedega? wow you are good!
[09:29] <Psyber> silly question, it should be possible to install multiple linux GUIs at the same time correct?
[09:29] <pavel> Mr_WAMU btw u should check if a deb package exsists for ur application/program
[09:29] <Hornet--> niter3, if you'd followed the conversation you'd see that it's mostly for interoperability.
[09:29] <lamego> Psyber, yes, it should
[09:29] <silent> Blackgoth, is your wine any different from any other wine? is yours jesus-powered?
[09:29] <Mr_WAMU> I tried synaptic
[09:30] <Blackgoth> Psyber: yes, you can run more than one windows manager
[09:30] <Mr_WAMU> I got nothing
[09:30] <Blackgoth> *install
[09:30] <`assioma`> hi, i've a problem with my bluetooth headset: i manage to connett it to the pc, but if i try to do a skype or ekiga call the system freezes. Never heard about it?
[09:30] <Hornet--> niter3, but yes, some of the things I'm trying to do would be far harder in the gimp
[09:30] <niter3> Hornet--: But again, that isn't a reason not to run linux. Photoshop is an application that runs on top of the OS. You have wine and other alternatives to get photoshop up and working. So don't assume just because Gimp doesn't compare to photoshop that is a reason to chump out of using Ubuntu/Linux .
[09:30] <lamego> Mr_WAMU, I am seeing the sourceforge site myself, you have .jar files there
[09:30] <Hornet--> niter3, and downright impossible in places
[09:30] <ivan_> hi, how do i pabstein,in what website?
[09:30] <Mr_WAMU> Yeah?
[09:30] <pavel> Mr_wamu https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[09:30] <Blackgoth> again silent, _my_ experiance with cedega is that is it slower than wine from winehq directly.
[09:30] <Mr_WAMU> Under Enginuity?
[09:30] <Psyber> lamego: Blackgoth  have either of you done this?  IF so did you have any problems?
[09:30] <dgjones> !paste | ivan_
[09:30] <ubotu> ivan_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:30] <silent> Blackgoth, to each his own
[09:30] <lamego> niter3, could you shutup with that gimp vs PS debate ?
[09:31] <lamego> Psyber, I did have KDE and GNOME on the past
[09:31] <Hornet--> niter3, where are you reading this from?  Why do you think I'm trying to get it working in Linux in the first place?
[09:31] <silent> niter3, he's using linux.. hes in a linux channel trying to get it to run on linux
[09:31] <cyph3x> in regards to the PS v Gimp debate. you have to consider what youre getting for what you pay for...
[09:31] <silent> niter3, when did windows come into it?
[09:31] <LinuxJuggalo> !wine | Hornet--
[09:31] <ubotu> Hornet--: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:31] <Blackgoth> Psyber: i had kde and gnome running, only problem was the amount of junk i got with kde
[09:32] <Psyber> lamego: that is what I am trying to do.  Did you just install both of them or is there a trick to doing it?  How did you select which WM you want to run?
[09:32] <dbrewer_rjr> i just took my feisty server to the server farm and it would not go on the network there. It was fine here. I changed the /etc/network/interfaces file just before i powered down and drove it over. Both me and the net admin over at the farm looked at the file and the settings were correct.
[09:32] <cyph3x> are the 5 additional features in PS worth the 500 bucks?
[09:32] <niter3> I was wondering, does Gnome have alternatives for KDE's popup calendar reminders?
[09:32] <Blackgoth> Psyber: the login window will let you choose
[09:32] <heartsblood> what exactly is the difference between beryl and compiz?
[09:32] <lamego> Psyber, the graphical desktop manager allowed me to select the WM at login
[09:32] <LinuxJuggalo> cyph3x: no
[09:32] <lamego> the login manager
[09:32] <nickrud> niter3: I use evolution, it has calendar reminders
[09:32] <cyph3x> then use Gimp... ;-)
[09:32] <Psyber> Cool, I take it I can install the WM from symantic?
[09:32] <heartsblood> compiz = window effects, beryl desltop effects?
[09:32] <lamego> Psyber, yes you can
[09:33] <niter3> heartsblood: Compiz is the core of the functioning and Beryl is the additonal software that runs with Compiz. Compiz-Fusion is the new Beryl so to speak
[09:33] <Zorlin> no....
[09:33] <LinuxJuggalo> cyph3x: i do use gimp ;p
[09:33] <Zorlin> Actually Beryl was a fork of Compiz...
[09:33] <Psyber> does anyone know how to get alltray to work with beryl?
[09:33] <heartsblood> niter3: yea i've been reading about the 'merger' just wasn't sure what the difference between the 2 were
[09:33] <dbrewer_rjr> HELP!! i just took my feisty server to the server farm and it would not go on the network there. It was fine here. I changed the /etc/network/interfaces file just before i powered down and drove it over. Both me and the net admin over at the farm looked at the file and the settings were correct.
[09:33] <Zorlin> ...Technically Compiz was the base for the code; but the whole package was referred to as Beryl
[09:33] <Zorlin> Compiz Fusion is a result of the re-merger.
[09:33] <niter3> nickrud: Yes but you need to have that application running at all times. Not that the KDE reminders you odn't have to, but it sits by your clock in the taskbar by default. It's sort of integrated into KDE but not Mozilla's software.
[09:34] <heartsblood> niter3: I tried 'compiz' once before but I lost all my title bars.  It made closing windows a bit of a pain.  I wanted to try it again because of all the hype but i'm not really sure what I should get to avoid my previous troubles.
[09:34] <niter3> nickrud: That's the alternative I'm looking for.
[09:34] <ivan_> could someone look at my pabstein and help me??? here is the url http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39692/
[09:35] <nickrud> niter3: evo has the evolution-alarm-notify, I am under the impression that as long as that's running, calendar alarms will still appear
[09:35] <niter3> heartsblood: Well there is the fact that the software has matured more. There is also very good support/tutorial websites to guide you in. Plus if you mess up, you can always back track. If you need help jump on IRC. Install yourself irssi.
[09:35] <Shapeshifter> I'd like "vpn-disconnect" to be run automatically when I hit the shutdown button. Is there a shutdownscript of somekind where I can add that line?
[09:35] <Psyber> does anyone know how to get alltray to work with beryl / compiz
[09:35] <heartsblood> irssi?
[09:36] <ivan_> did someone watched it??
[09:36] <niter3> heartsblood: IRC client that runs from the console. Just in case your render X useless. This way you can have members help you restore.
[09:36] <munk__> can someone tell me how do i install cyrillic font again cuz i took it off by "accident" not knowing i need it
[09:36] <wood1> what is the channel for ubuntu 7.10 please?
[09:36] <heartsblood> ah, no worries I use bitchx for console stuff and I'm a pro at breaking X :>
[09:36] <Psyber> anyone in here use linspire?
[09:36] <dbrewer_rjr> HELP!! i just took my feisty server to the server farm and it would not go on the network there. It was fine here. I changed the /etc/network/interfaces file just before i powered down and drove it over. Both me and the net admin over at the farm looked at the file and the settings were correct.
[09:37] <nickrud> dbrewer_rjr: have you watched /var/log/syslog for messages when ifup/downing the interface?
[09:37] <kurisutofuaa> I question about a installing ubuntu with a grub loader already on the computer will it over-write my previous grub entries or will keep them?
[09:38] <ivan_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39692/ someon please help me
[09:38] <gorlak> how do you tell who all are admins' in the channel?
[09:38] <dbrewer_rjr> no :(
[09:38] <wood1> is ubuntu 7.10 support here?
[09:38] <nickrud> kurisutofuaa: with the alternate cd, you can choose not to overwrite the mbr; live install I'm not sure of
[09:38] <dbrewer_rjr> i finally had to leave the farm. I will be going back as soon as they will let me.
[09:39] <nickrud> gorlak: you can ask on #ubuntu-ops
[09:39] <nickrud> wood1: no, #ubuntu+1
[09:40] <wood1> thank you nickrud
[09:40] <nvrpunk> question, I tossed the source.list to gutsy repos and distro-upgraded and now suddenly i can no longer SSH into the box remotely
[09:40] <nvrpunk> anyone familiar with this?
[09:41] <uh_buntu> I just dual booted ubuntu6.06LTS with windows2000pro. I have microcom AD2636 ROUTER but using usb. Network card broken. UBUNTU doesn't recognize internet connectuion. What to do?
[09:41] <ivan_> when i try to update i get an error and i cant open it and i also get an errror opening synaptic. Could someone help me please??
[09:42] <nickrud> ivan_: could you put the output of aptitude update on a pastebin?
[09:42] <nickrud> ivan_: sudo*
[09:42] <groushack> hi alll
[09:42] <Filthpig> Can somebody tell me why I can't run azureus from the repos? It just doesn't start...
[09:43] <aguitel> uh_buntu: ubuntu does no t work fine with usb internet connection ,fix your ethernet card
[09:43] <ivan_> nickrud, i get this error. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39694/
[09:43] <nickrud> Filthpig: did you install sun java?
[09:43] <MishaBear> hello
[09:43] <ivan_> nickrud, thats the pabstein
[09:44] <nickrud> ivan_: simple fix, a sec
[09:44] <Filthpig> nickrud: I've got several :P
[09:44] <ivan_> nickrud, ok thanks
[09:44] <Filthpig> shouldn't apt take care of that anyway?
[09:44] <MishaBear> need a big help... I am a bit on a budget, and I need a laptop. I have two systems to choose from, both with 2GB of RAM and 120GB HDD - the problem is the CPU - one has a Sempron 3600, the other a  64 X2 TK53
[09:44] <MishaBear> I know the second i sbetter
[09:44] <MrObvious> .
[09:44] <nickrud> Filthpig: sudo update-alternatives --config java , make sure it's a sun :)
[09:44] <MishaBear> but what's the actual difference in performance on ubuntu?
[09:44] <MrObvious> MishaBear: Just get the dual core. It'll perform better with more future proofing you might say.
[09:45] <_bt> hello, i upgraded to ubuntu gutsy and my network device has changed to eth1 from 0, how can i change it back?
[09:45] <MishaBear> ok thanks
[09:45] <MrObvious> MishaBear: YW. Also more and more programs are becoming dual core optimized.
[09:45] <Filthpig> nickrud: always sun ;)
[09:45] <MishaBear> ah I see, ok thanks
[09:45] <aguitel> _bt: why you what it back
[09:45] <MrObvious> YW.
[09:45] <MishaBear> cannot wait to check ubuntu on this system
[09:46] <nickrud> ivan_: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/dynamic-mmap-ran-out-of-room-error-when-adding-new-apt-source-list-233417/ , the answer from leonscape
[09:46] <_bt> because i have some things bridged to eth0 and also a static ip setup
[09:46] <MishaBear> it comes with Vista preinstalled, and we have no option to remove the license in my country
[09:46] <ivan_> nickrud, ill try it thanks
[09:46] <gorlak> question: if i had a program running under wine, and it froze to thepoint of not being able to turn it off, how would i go about forcing the application to close?
[09:46] <MishaBear> too bad, but I do not care - I am forced to work on Vista on another machine, and it's been a nightmare so far, regardless of what everybody else is saying
[09:46] <Filthpig> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39696/
[09:47] <aguitel> gorlak: kill wine
[09:47] <gorlak> i tried using the kill (pid) but it didnt do anything
[09:47] <nickrud> Filthpig: choose the 1.5, I'm pretty sure that 1.4 is still blackdown :)
[09:47] <nickrud> not sun, heh
[09:47] <xqq>  
[09:48] <MishaBear> one question more, sorry - I have been working with Photoshop, and owning the license, for the latest 5 years - I like GIMP, but I am much faster with PS - will it be possible to run it in some way on Ubuntu or I'd better let go?
[09:48] <nickrud> !cn | xqq
[09:48] <ubotu> xqq: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[09:48] <aguitel> gorlak: do you see the correct pid process?
[09:48] <gorlak> yes it was listed as 5952, when i use the top -u username command
[09:49] <aguitel> gorlak: type ps aux
[09:49] <Filthpig> nickrud: hummmmmmmmmm, now it runs, but after starting up and showing some informational message it just closes
[09:49] <gorlak> did that and it lists the same pid number
[09:49] <roots> jdjafjdfds
[09:49] <Filthpig> (i'm on gutsy, btw)
[09:49] <roots> gdfsgsf
[09:49] <roots> teste
[09:49] <gorlak> for the program i cant close
[09:49] <roots> =D
[09:49] <aguitel> gorlak: this is the pid numer to kill
[09:50] <nickrud> Filthpig: not a real expert on java & azureus, you might want to try the java6
[09:50] <gorlak> so it should be kill pid correct?
[09:51] <tmccrary> I have a new mac keyboard and when I push the eject button... my theme changes in Gnome
[09:51] <aguitel> gorlak: yes
[09:51] <Dralock> tmccrary thats awesome!
[09:51] <tmccrary> What is the command to display what key you are currently pressing? I am having a hard time remembering
[09:51] <nickrud> wow, single click theme changes, I want that!
[09:51] <xcst> ei people need help with my ubuntu
[09:51] <nickrud> tmccrary: xev
[09:51] <tmccrary> nickrud: Thank!
[09:51] <tmccrary> s
[09:51] <xcst> can someone pm me, we can talk
[09:52] <Bender1337> ok om me
[09:52] <roots> i dont speack enghish
[09:52] <roots> 
[09:52] <Dralock> tmccrary : I don't know if I'd want to turn that off though :)
[09:52] <gorlak> strange, still not working.
[09:52] <vulcanius> nickrud, write something to do that, everyone would love you
[09:52] <MrObvious> xcst: About what? There's an offtopic channel for #ubuntu.
[09:52] <aguitel> l
[09:52] <gorlak> still listed in the ps aux
[09:52] <MrObvious> !offtopic
[09:52] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:52] <xcst> <<nid helps with ubuntu
[09:52] <gorlak> under the same pid
[09:52] <MrObvious> xcst: Just ask the question.
[09:52] <tmccrary> Dralock: Oh I know, deciding is killing me ;)
[09:52] <LinuxJuggalo> roots: what language are you fluent?
[09:52] <Dralock> gorlak: If you want to stop something that bad, use the killall -9 <name of process> command.
[09:52] <roots> portuguese
[09:52] <roots> do you understend
[09:52] <roots> ?
[09:53] <tmccrary> The eject button must mean "Eject current theme"
[09:53] <Dralock> hah!
[09:53] <xcst> when i installed beryl. just for a while it works fine, but after downloading the codeces for video formats for windows, beryl didnt worked anymore
[09:53] <Dralock> If you hit it twice does it revert?
[09:53] <tmccrary> hmm, xev doesn't even respond when I it one of the keys (the meta key to the right of the space bar)
[09:53] <aguitel> gorlak: do that Dralock SAY
[09:53] <LinuxJuggalo> roots: sorry i do not, but you can find an ubuntu support channel in your language
[09:53] <roots> ok!
[09:53] <Filthpig> nickrud: hmm, same result with java 6
[09:53] <roots> greatz maN...
[09:53] <dgjones> !pt | roots
[09:53] <ubotu> roots: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[09:54] <kjp> Is there anything like mythtv for gnome ?
[09:54] <nickrud> tmccrary: do tail -f /var/log/syslog , and watch that terminal while you press the key
[09:54] <roots> ubotu ....................
[09:54] <roots> obrigado pela dica...
[09:54] <roots> thank's ;)
[09:54] <vocx> xcst, video codecs and video don't play nicely.
[09:54] <Bender1337> he is a bot
[09:54] <Kronos> guyz... uhmm i finnaly seem to have installed it (ubuntu 7.04) without the swapp partition the only thing i tought was strange during the instalation was it hangged at 6% on the copying files screen for about 10 mins... and then it just jumped straight to 18% but after that everything went smooth, now (after it telling me to lose the CD coz its about to restart) it restarts time after time .. the orange bar underneath u
[09:54] <Kronos> buntu's logo goes to roughtly 95% and then it restarts for no reason, does it time after time after time... i just got into the kernel safe mode and that seems to be ok but i have no clue as to what's going on since i never used this before ... >>>HELP PLEASE!!!!<<<
[09:54] <Filthpig> kjp: Search in the "add/remove programs" application
[09:54] <nickrud> Filthpig: might be a bug, try looking on bugs.launchpad.net
[09:54] <kjp> Filthpig: sadly I only have ssh access to the box atm
[09:55] <tmccrary> nickrud: it doesn't output anything other than the initial data
[09:55] <xcst> what alternative can i use so that i can play videos at a nice rate
[09:55] <Dralock> xcst: I just use VLC
[09:55] <nickrud> tmccrary: initial data? usually it'll say something each time you press
[09:55] <Dralock> xcst: when in doubt, yanno?
[09:55] <MrObvious> Kronos: You didn't install with a swap?
[09:55] <xcst> the player?
[09:55] <tmccrary> nickrud: It spit out about 5-6 lines related to new usb devices
[09:56] <Dralock> xcst - yea. Its not the best in the world, but its better than xine and the gnome player.
[09:56] <xcst> my main concern is after installing the codeces, beryl wont work anymore
[09:56] <tmccrary> nickrud: I changed my xmodmap settings around a bit when I worked on a project with the wiimote
[09:56] <ISOcrates> does anyone know of an applet that will display your IP address in a panel?
[09:56] <nickrud> tmccrary: for keys that aren't recognized, anyway. (and starts laughing wildly usb devices on a meta key)
[09:56] <tmccrary> I'm gonna check that out
[09:56] <vocx> xcst, I meant video codecs and Beryldon't play nicely. So just turn off Beryl wjile you watch videos. Also, remember Beryl, compiz, compiz fusion and all that are not exactly finished.
[09:56] <gorlak> dralock, name of proccess would be the pid? or 'command' ?
[09:56] <Kronos> MrObvious: nop i have 2GB of memory and some1 called Pskoll (i belive) said it would be ok with 2 GB of mem
[09:56] <ed_> how do you get the desktop effects to work and stop getting the composite extension error
[09:56] <damjan> Is it dangerous to log in as root while I have an Internet connection?
[09:57] <aguitel> gorlak: kill -9 pid(number)
[09:57] <Dralock> gorlak: it would be the name of the process itself. Like for wine you would type "killall -9 wine"
[09:57] <xcst> the thing is, i just wany ubuntu desktop to look nice
[09:57] <Dralock> gorlak: or for firefox "killall -9 firefox"
[09:57] <nickrud> damjan: not particularly
[09:57] <damjan> ok
[09:57] <gorlak> ah ok
[09:57] <MrObvious> Kronos: You should still have a swap. At least install a 512MB swap. It still wont' hurt. I've used up to 1GB of swap on 512MB of RAM before and still wasn't done opening all my programs. I could probably easily use 2GB of RAM + some swap.
[09:57] <Dralock> gorlak: that will kill all processes associated with the parsed phrase in your PS.
[09:58] <nickrud> damjan: but sudo -i gets you root level stuff without having to have an active root account
[09:58] <damjan> nicrud, but if somebody tries to intrude, he will have all my pc  power
[09:58] <gorlak> i tried the wine, but it didnt work,
[09:58] <Filthpig> nickrud: thanks for the tip, found this in a post there: With sun jre1.5 azureus not work.
[09:58] <Filthpig> With java-gcj work perfectly.
[09:58] <Roge> Im using apt-get to install a package and ubuntu server edition lts version is asking for the cd rom .. is there a way to force it to use the network repo ?
[09:58] <Filthpig> so I'm installing the gcj now
[09:58] <eeyore_> Hi. Could someone tell me what program they use to convert tex to pdf? Any recommendations?
[09:58] <Dralock> gorlak: then try what you are running wine with.
[09:58] <ed_> anyone?
[09:58] <MrObvious> Kronos: You might run Memtest as included on the Ubuntu CD to see if your memory is in good condition. I'd recommend a fresh install since you just did one with a swap partition. Make sure you give the partitions a good format so that it doesn't keep any data. That should get you off good provided you don't have any hardware problems. Also, you aren't needing special SATA or RAID drivers are you?
[09:58] <damjan> nicrud, if I type my password for each package I install, I will commit suicide, :)
[09:58] <Kronos> MrObvious: so u reckon i should install a swap? if so how big ... half the mem size? like 1 GB?...
[09:58] <Dralock> gorlak: I have to -9 WoW.exe (I play world of warcraft) all the time with updates and stuff.
[09:59] <preaction> damjan, you being logged in as root does not open a hole. you having a SSH server running, allowing root to login using SSH, and having an insecure root password would. Since root has no password on default ubuntu, there's no worry there.
[09:59] <nickrud> damjan: sudo -i then.
[09:59] <xcst> the thing is, i just wany ubuntu desktop to look nice
[09:59] <MrObvious> Kronos: 512 will do IMO, but 1GB can't hurt just in case. Linux is smart with memory management.
[09:59] <brandonc503> hey i did the driver search thing and dosent help
[09:59] <zoli2k> How can I blacklist a kernel driver?
[09:59] <brandonc503> have less resolutions then before
[09:59] <damjan> nicrud, I changed the pass, and I activated the gdm and kdm root login
[09:59] <gorlak> still cant seem to quit it, there is always a reboot. hehe
[09:59] <gorlak> thanks for the help thoug
[09:59] <gorlak> though
[10:00] <DShepherd> Roge, open /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the lines relating to the cd
[10:00] <zoli2k> Hi, can you help me? How can I blacklist a kernel driver?
[10:00] <Filthpig> nickrud: although it's still the same for me o0
[10:00] <vocx> xcst, As I told you, it may be impossible at this stage. Maybe wait until the new ubuntu release arrives with new codecs and improved compiz and probably it will work better.
[10:00] <Pelo> zoli2k, man modprobe
[10:00] <pH1r3> hey people, ive got fiesty installed, if i want to install gutsy will i have to completely reformat everything? or can i just upgrade to gutsy?
[10:00] <nickrud> zoli2k: create a file in /etc/modprobe.d/ , use blacklist in that directory for the syntax (create a new file, so ubuntu won't mess with it)
[10:00] <ed_> whats a good program to choose themes from for ubuntu
[10:00] <damjan> nicrud, why java applications for development like elclipse or java beans, take enormous  memory?
[10:00] <gorlak> thanks for the help :)
[10:00] <tmccrary> ed_ System->Preferences->Theme
[10:00] <Kronos> MrObvious: right no... i  mean i've got a single disk atm... sata yes but just standard nothing fancy... mem... yeh ok i can run some tests but i'm pretty sure its good its some pretty high quality stuff as far as the system goes it was runing 100% yesterday i had windows on and all my stuff worked 100%
[10:01] <preaction> damjan, because the JVM requires a lot of memory
[10:01] <zoli2k> nickrud, thank you. That is what I exactly need.
[10:01] <eeyore_> Hi. Could someone tell me what program they use to convert tex to pdf? Any recommendations?
[10:01] <tmccrary> damjan: They are IDE's, all the features they have take a lot of memory
[10:01] <nickrud> damjan: cuz they're hogs?
[10:01] <ISOcrates> pH1r3: you can upgrade from fiesty i believe
[10:01] <brandonc503> what are some ways i can change my resolution?
[10:01] <pH1r3> cool
[10:01] <ISOcrates> i asked the same question the other night
[10:01] <Kronos> MrObvious: well as good as anything can run on windows =D
[10:01] <mikebot> My volume buttons on my laptop no longer work... how can I fix this?
[10:01] <Pelo> pH1r3,  you can move your /home folder to a seperate partition and use it from there, that will restore all your settings but the  /partiton will get reformated (on an install that is)   if you just  upgrade you are pretty safe
[10:01] <damjan> nicrud, explain me, what is hog, cause I'am new to that term, please.
[10:01] <ed_> tmccrary: im looking for more themese
[10:02] <tmccrary> preaction: The JVM takes up about 40-50 megs for the class libraries... java is better for resource intensive applications right now (so IDEs, editor suites, server programs, etc)
[10:02] <tmccrary> ed_: gnome-look.org is pretty good, imo
[10:02] <pH1r3> ahhk sweet
[10:02] <ed_> tmccrary: i wanna be able to make the icons on my desktop smaller as well
[10:02] <Pelo> brandonc503,  you can  add extra reslolutions you need to the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[10:02] <ikonia> ed_: gnome-loo.org
[10:02] <MrObvious> Kronos: Hmm okay. IDK why it would be holding up, unless there are graphics drivers problems. You might check the syslog.
[10:02] <ikonia> ed_: gnome-look.org
[10:02] <nickrud> damjan: a hog is a pig. Eats everything in sight
[10:02] <ed_> tmccrary: thanks that seems like a good site
[10:02] <ed_> ikonia: thanks :)
[10:02] <tmccrary> preaction: The upcoming Java service pack is going to introduce "java kernel" which reduces the initial memor usage to only core classes on startup.... about 2 MB
[10:02] <mikebot> Does anyone know why my volume buttons on my laptop would suddenly stop working?
[10:03] <ISOcrates> there's got to be a way to display one's IP address in a panel, no?
[10:03] <Dralock> ed_: there's always themes.freshmeat.net as well. Though it doesn't update very often.
[10:03] <nickburns> Hi all, long time Linux user, new Ubuntu user... I've installed Ubuntu on my tablet.  Pen, etc., working just fine when the screen is at normal (0 deg) rotation.  However, when I go to draw a line when the screen is rotated, the line appears jagged and broken until I lift my pen -- and then it goes solid.  Happens with all the inking software I have tried so far.  Any idea?
[10:03] <preaction> tmccrary, off-topic, and i don't really care, but thanks
[10:03] <brandonc503> Pelo: that file is empty
[10:03] <Pelo> ISOcrates, in ter terminal  type ifconfig
[10:03] <lap> mikebot: that was a windows commodity.
[10:03] <damjan> nicrud, oh, do you know how much ram memory do I have to have to work freely with java dev and work on internet?
[10:03] <Pelo> brandonc503,    X one one , not X L L
[10:03] <mikebot> lap: They used to work.
[10:03] <ed_> i basically want a nice dark yet simple theme but with small icons (or ones I can modify myself)
[10:03] <mikebot> in ubuntu
[10:03] <tmccrary> preaction: Of course you don't care, you're one of those kinds of people
[10:03] <lap> mikebot: oh ok
[10:03] <Pelo> brandonc503, and remember  linux is case sensitive
[10:03] <ikonia> nickburns: the re-draw on rotation function is possible the problem
[10:03] <brandonc503> Pelo i copied what you typed
[10:03] <ikonia> ed_: visit the site
[10:04] <lap> mikebot: maybe you disabled something that wouldn't to be disabled
[10:04] <xcst> what else cool things i can do with ubuntu'
[10:04] <ISOcrates> Pelo, yeah besides that though
[10:04] <xcst> what else cool things i can do with ubuntu?
[10:04] <nickburns> ikonia, any suggestion on how to fix it?
[10:04] <mikebot> lap: How can I solve the issue (by finding out what may have changed)?
[10:04] <Pelo> brandonc503,  browse manualy to the location, I typed it correctly
[10:04] <Dralock> xcst - thats rather subjective, don't you think?
[10:04] <ed_> ikonia: i am now as we speak actually lol
[10:04] <ISOcrates> i have the network connection applet in the panel and if you click it and click support it shows you.  but i thought for sure there must bea  way to just show it all the time in the panel
[10:04] <ikonia> nickburns: no idea, I've not seen ubuntu on tablets, however I've seen rotation re-draw issues on palm pilots
[10:04] <Kronos> MrObvious: yes yes yes... my graphics card is pretty good but its a bit of a funny one its known for that, and when i was trying to install ubuntu with the desktop instalation disk its keept messing up on the loading screen (after u press install on the screen where u get a little bar going back and forth) then i was recomended to get the "alternate" version which is what i'm using now
[10:04] <ikonia> ed_: then we don't need a commentary
[10:05] <ikonia> nickburns I'm just making a directional suggestion
[10:05] <MrObvious> Kronos: What is your GPU?
[10:05] <ppj> Ubuntu is the only ncurses installed distro that I can faithfully rely on to sit at 6% or 90% everytime I install it
[10:05] <brandonc503> Pelo got i thanks
[10:05] <xcst> draconius wht do you men>
[10:05] <damjan> Any good java dev channel?
[10:05] <ed_> ikonia: what on earth are you talking about....a commentary
[10:05] <MrObvious> Kronos: And are you running an overclock of any kind?
[10:05] <xcst> draconius wht do you meean?
[10:05] <ikonia> damjan: not here
[10:05] <tmccrary> ed_: ikonia is a douche, just ignore it
[10:05] <ikonia> ed_ I want this theme, that theme
[10:05] <ikonia> tmccrary not be offensive
[10:05] <brandonc503> Pelo any help on what to change?
[10:05] <ikonia> don't
[10:05] <brandonc503> Pelo link would be good
[10:05] <Roge> thx
[10:05] <lap> mikebot: sorry, i'd never use that buttons.
[10:05] <Pelo> brandonc503,  you'll figure it out, it's pretty evident
[10:06] <mikebot> lap: K, thanks.
[10:06] <damjan> ikonia do u know some channel or forum for java development
[10:06] <NTAuthority> blarg, gutsy beta gives an error about the gnome-settings-manager on boot of desktop cd
[10:06] <ikonia> damjan #java
[10:06] <ed_> ikonia: i was actually throwing it out there in case anyone had anything to add....if you don' want to see it then dont
[10:06] <brandonc503> k
[10:06] <damjan> ok
[10:06] <tmccrary> damjam: #java... but's full of morons
[10:06] <tmccrary> Just a fair warning
[10:06] <ed_> ikonia: i was looking for other opinions
[10:06] <vocx> !xconfig | brandonc503
[10:06] <ubotu> brandonc503: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[10:06] <Pelo> !gutsy | NTAuthority
[10:06] <ubotu> NTAuthority: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[10:06] <oobe> anyone here using mythtv on ubuntu ?
[10:06] <NTAuthority> mmm, okay :)
[10:06] <ikonia> oobe I have done
[10:06] <vocx> !fixres | brandonc503
[10:06] <damjan> tmccrary, why are they morons?
[10:06] <ubotu> brandonc503: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:06] <Dralock> xcst - I mean, your definition of "cool" things might be quite different than other people's. Narrowing down your general question to a certain field, such as, "what cool widgets can I install" or "what cool window managers are there out there to play with" or "what cool system monitoring tools can I play with" would be much better.
[10:06] <simonbp> oobe, I've got mythtv on ubuntu
[10:07] <Kronos> MrObvious: gainward 6800GS AGP 512 MB  (this is technicly a PCIe jobbie with a PCIe to AGP converter thing, and what i mean by funny is that they "never" released any 512 MB version on AGP... so this is some wired very limited version...
[10:07] <klotho> hello... are there any repositories for gutsy that are faster than the default (USA) one? downloads are going really slowly....
[10:07] <oobe> ii have a prob im using ubuntu but its not really ubuntu related
[10:07] <xcst> i mean the desktop view
[10:07] <Kronos> MrObvious: no overclocks
[10:07] <ikonia> klotho: the servers had problems earlier, they are catching up
[10:07] <tmccrary> damjan: Most of the people there barely know how to program and the mods are on a power trip
[10:07] <xcst> you know style
[10:07] <vocx> klotho, gutsy, not here please. #ubuntu+1 for gutsy
[10:07] <oobe> my tuner distorts with ranbow colours and wont fix untill reboot
[10:07] <xcst> and more of performance
[10:07] <lap> xcst: apt-get install beryl beryl-manager emerald-themes
[10:07] <klotho> ikonia: so just use the USA ones, no other mirrors that arebetter?
[10:07] <lap> =)
[10:07] <oobe> ever heard of somthing like that
[10:08] <damjan> tmcrary that is funny
[10:08] <ikonia> klotho: the usa ones will ease up shortly, they are just on catch up a bit
[10:08] <MrObvious> Kronos: Hmm odd. Try what I suggested and see if that works then.
[10:08] <Hilikus> hey guys, i have mythtv runnig and it uses mysql, now im installing phpbb and the mysql installer is asking me if i have created a database, does that mean, is there ANY database running (there is, the one that mythtv is using) or when they refer to database they mean one for phpbb specifically?
[10:08] <Filthpig> nickrud: ah, I need to download a new package (still in proposed state)
[10:08] <Filthpig> but it works under gutsy :)
[10:08] <ikonia> Hilikus no, it means have you created a phpbb database
[10:08] <damjan> tmcrary guess the whole server is on vacation, cause is not oppening
[10:08] <nubuntu> However it is not always the smoking gun
[10:08] <simonbp> oobe: does the tuner card handle mpeg2 encoding, or do you handle that in software?
[10:08] <Dralock> xcst: I suggest, then, you start down the path of learning about the wonderful world of linux window managers. Nautilis is just the ubuntu default, but there are many to mess with. You can lose yourself for weeks configuring things to be just right.
[10:08] <tmccrary> damjam: You're better off, believe me
[10:09] <Hilikus> ikonia mysql can have several databases right?
[10:09] <oobe> its a dvb-t
[10:09] <oobe> im not sure if it does mpeg2 encoding
[10:09] <nubuntu> but the vid worked under gutcy
[10:09] <brandonc503> vocx whats fixres?
[10:09] <simonbp> oobe: I had a tough time with mythtv until I got a tuner card that handled all the encoding itself.
[10:09] <ikonia> Hilikus: coreymon77
[10:09] <vegard> Hello. I'm pretty new to ubuntu, and have a questions regarding lack of sound in 7.10
[10:09] <Kronos> MrObvious: ok ty i'm doing the mem test just in case then if it all passes fine i'm gonna install it again with a 1GB swap just to see what happens, i'll keep u on tell and talk to u when its done, easyer than telling some1 else all about the problem again... thank you again...
[10:09] <ikonia> Hilikus: correct
[10:09] <simonbp> oobe: sorry, never saw your specific problem though.
[10:10] <Pelo> !sound | vegard
[10:10] <ubotu> vegard: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[10:10] <MrObvious> Kronos: I'm really out of suggestions actually.
[10:10] <vegard> I'm using a Lenovo X60s laptop
[10:10] <vocx> brandonc503, it was just a factoid the bot ubotu gave you. Read it again.
[10:10] <Hilikus> ikonia and each DB has its own tables right? so the database is just like a namespace ??
[10:10] <vocx> !fixres > brandonc503
[10:10] <MrObvious> Kronos: So if this doesn't work more than likely someone with graphics experience can help you.
[10:10] <clos> i installed vnc4server via 'apt-get install vnc4server' on a dedicated server that i'm renting, but when i go to IP:1 in my vnc viewer it can't find the server
[10:10] <ikonia> Hilikus: thats right
[10:10] <Hilikus> ikonia thanks! :)
[10:10] <brandonc503> vocx oh thanks
[10:10] <Kronos> MrObvious: alrighty,  can doo thank you for the help anyway...
[10:10] <clos> any used vnc4server before?
[10:10] <MrObvious> Kronos: :)
[10:11] <wfernandow> anyone, know, how install sony ericsson gc89 an ubuntu 7.04
[10:11] <nubuntu> thanks for your
[10:11] <MrObvious> clos: I've done VNC before.
[10:11] <clos> did it work for you?
[10:11] <MrObvious> clos: Did you launch the server by vncserver first off?
[10:11] <clos> yeah
[10:11] <clos> i did
[10:11] <clos> 'vnc4server'
[10:11] <clos> and it asked me for a password
[10:11] <MrObvious> clos: Hmm. And it doesn't show you any desktop?
[10:12] <clos> no
[10:12] <MrObvious> clos: Oh wait I understand.
[10:12] <wfernandow> please, how install sony ericsson gc89 an ubuntu 7.04
[10:12] <clos> it can't connet
[10:12] <MrObvious> clos: It asked for a pw to set up the server...right.
[10:12] <clos> yeah
[10:12] <clos> and then it says
[10:12] <clos> New '89-149-232-81.internetserviceteam.com:1 (root)' desktop is 89-149-232-81.internetserviceteam.com:1
[10:12] <Fiveohthree> !fixres
[10:12] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:12] <MrObvious> clos: Sorry I need some afternoon caffeine. Are you trying to use a NAT router? You might have to do some port forwarding.
[10:13] <Fiveohthree> hey do that fix res again please
[10:13] <MrObvious> !fixres
[10:13] <MrObvious> Fiveohthree: I tried :(
[10:13] <MrObvious> :p
[10:13] <Fiveohthree> !fixres >
[10:13] <clos> mrobvious the vnc4server is on a dedicated server that i'm renting
[10:13] <MrObvious> !fixres > Fiveohthree
[10:13] <wfernandow> anyone speak portugues
[10:13] <MrObvious> !tab | Fiveohthree
[10:13] <ubotu> Fiveohthree: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[10:13] <Fiveohthree> i did on other comp that restart thing and now just text on screen
[10:13] <MrObvious> !portugues
[10:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about portugues - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:14] <MrObvious> !portuguese
[10:14] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[10:14] <nickrud> pt | wfernandow
[10:14] <bjames> hi all
[10:14] <MrObvious> clos: Oh I see.
[10:14] <Fiveohthree> says running local boot scritps...
[10:14] <Fiveohthree> but nothing
[10:14] <wfernandow> thanks
[10:14] <klotho> no one on #ubuntu+1 has an answer to my question of whether there are other mirrors I should use now because the main ones are slow. Anyone know?
[10:14] <dug_> how can you permanently change the column widths nautilus uses in list view?  The name column takes up the entire window, i have to resize it every time I open a new folder.
[10:15] <ikonia> klotho: I've told you
[10:15] <bjames> I want to have a play with some low-level network programming (i.e. connecting a microcontroller directly to my router, via ethernet) and was wondering if there are any simulation tools that I can use to simulate a network at various levels of the protocol stack?
[10:15] <MrObvious> clos: So we'll assume there is no NAT router. Now we gotta look at the way it connects.
[10:15] <ikonia> klotho: there are many other mirrors, but its probably best to stick with the usa ones and let them sort them selves out
[10:15] <clos> i mean
[10:15] <generalsnus> 13 Days to go... sigh, thats a long time for an impatient guy :P
[10:15] <MrObvious> clos: I'll assume the address you gave earlier is the IP address. Let me see if I can connect.
[10:15] <clos> ok
[10:16] <arkygeek> i am running an intel iMac 24" with nVidia.  things were working perfectly, and then after a reboot, everything went haywire.  I have the full resolution back, but it seems like the depth is wrong or something. any ideas?
[10:16] <arkygeek> oh.  hi btw :P
[10:16] <MrObvious> clos: Try using plain vncserver and closing down vnc4server and see if that makes a difference.
[10:16] <gea> hola, he instalado virtualbox, como lo abro? en consola no esta el comando 'virtualbox' , ni me aparece como programa
[10:16] <MrObvious> !spanish | gea
[10:16] <ubotu> gea: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:17] <vocx> arkygeek, why do you think "the depth is wrong or something"?  That is totally useless information, try again.
[10:17] <gea> sorry
[10:17] <gea> wrong window
[10:17] <niter3> bbbbbbbbbahhaha
[10:17] <niter3> Man guys
[10:17] <spinner_> bjames: You have the bosom netsim for ccna
[10:17] <niter3> ANy candians in here?1
[10:17] <niter3> ?!
[10:17] <niter3> THANKS GIVING THIS WEEKEND! WHOOT!
[10:18] <CrickNeck> heh
[10:18] <generalsnus> I guess there is no point in installing 7.04 now and uppgrade to 7.10 at launch..guessing it might complicate things
[10:18] <ikonia> !offtopic >niter3
[10:18] <bjames> spinner: I will have a look at that
[10:18] <tmccrary> niter3: Out of curiosity, what is the best part of canadian thanksgiving?
[10:18] <jonah1980> hi got a problem and on phone to my dad who is in spain, i'm in the uk, he not good with computers
[10:18] <Hilikus> whats the default mysql root password?
[10:18] <jonah1980> but he says the computer is locking up
[10:19] <tmccrary> clear
[10:19] <jonah1980> i think he needs legacy nvidia card driver and not the normal one
[10:19] <hagna> so sometimes during apt-get install it won't resolve archive.ubuntu.org
[10:19] <arkygeek> vocx: hmmmm.  hard to explain.  it looks like too few colors or something
[10:19] <MrObvious> !offtopic > tmccrary
[10:19] <clos> i installed vncserver and it says New 'X' desktop is 89-149-232-81.internetserviceteam.com:1
[10:19] <hagna> also ssh sometimes takes a long to to login
[10:19] <clos> but i still can't connect
[10:19] <genii> Hilikus: username:mysql pass: mysql
[10:19] <hagna> is that dns related?
[10:19] <clos> and this time it didn't ask me for a password
[10:19] <tmccrary> MrObvious: Thanks douche, that was a close one
[10:19] <bjames> spinner_: it seems to be a non-free product
[10:19] <bjames> is there anything free/open?
[10:20] <MrObvious> clos: Hmm. There might be a firewall between you and the remote server. Check and remove them if necessary.
[10:20] <jonah1980> he says it's come on now and not locked up is there an easy way to change to legacy without breaking it?
[10:20] <clos> there is no firewall...
[10:20] <spinner_> bjames do not know im new to this free world :)
[10:20] <clos> i had this working with fedora 4 on the same server the other day
[10:20] <bjames> spinner_: free is good ;-)
[10:20] <dug_> anyone know how to change the default column widths nautilus uses in list view?  The name column takes up the entire window, i have to resize it every time I open a new folder.
[10:20] <MrObvious> clos: Hmm. There is something obvious I'm missing. I'm sorry.
[10:20] <clos> is there some wierd SELinux thing?
[10:20] <ikonia> clos how can it be on the same server you just told me it was a rented server
[10:20] <arkygeek> vocx: NVIDIA Driver Version: 1.0-9755
[10:21] <clos> ikonia yeah
[10:21] <MrObvious> !vnc
[10:21] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[10:21] <spinner_> but im looking for the same thing so plz let me know if you found something of intrest
[10:21] <clos> its a dedicated server that i have root access too
[10:21] <clos> that i'm trying to install a vncserver
[10:21] <arkygeek> niter3: im an expat canuck... happy thxgiving to you too
[10:21] <oshiii-_^> !FreeNX
[10:21] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[10:21] <MrObvious> clos: Hmm. I'll google a little bit to see if there is anything obvious I'm missing.
[10:22] <arkygeek> niter3: we are baking a pumpkin as we speak for a pie for tomorrow
[10:22] <spinner_> bjames:  yes i know but ive been using win al my life this is my 3rd day with linux
[10:22] <arkygeek> spinner_: sticck with it. it is SO worth it.  After three years of windows free computer use, i cant believe i ever used to like windows
[10:23] <coreymon77> ikonia: huh? am i needed?
[10:23] <arkygeek> !nvidia
[10:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:23] <bjames> spinner_: are you looking to simulate protocols or network traffic?
[10:23] <coreymon77> ikonia: you pinged?
[10:23] <mr_toast> who wants to help me fix firstarter and fix DHCP?
[10:23] <ikonia> coreymon77 apologies, I must have done a miss-type
[10:23] <bjames> I'm looking to test implement a network protocol stack
[10:23] <coreymon77> oh
[10:23] <spinner_> traffic
[10:23] <coreymon77> okay
[10:23] <ikonia> coreymon77: sorry
[10:23] <coreymon77> no prob
[10:23] <bjames> spinner_:http://www.isi.edu/nsnam/ns/
[10:24] <spinner_> tnx
[10:24] <NTAuthority> feisty also gives an blown up bootsplash, and i'm waiting for the gnome-settings-manager error to come up, when booting the desktop cd on an 845 system (using the onboard intel video)
[10:26] <niter3> Crazy tits
[10:26] <fevel> hey
[10:26] <KevlarSoul> I installed Ubuntu on a partition it made, everything looked great, when I rebooted there was no dual boot screen, went straight into winblows?
[10:26] <ikonia> niter3: that language is uncalled for
[10:26] <fevel> can firestarter be trusted with a biiig network
[10:26] <fevel> as a security firewall
[10:26] <ikonia> fevel: personal opinion - no
[10:26] <fevel> ikonia, what do you suggest?
[10:26] <ikonia> fevel: use fwbuilder with iptables
[10:26] <fevel> iptables by hand?
[10:26] <mr_toast> just received could not grab mouse warning? this is a first and is this like natural cause this installation is clean 0_o??
[10:27] <ikonia> coreymon77 or an enterprise product
[10:27] <niter3> ikonia: Big gigantic fat enormous huage super awesome fucking wondering bonker tits!!
[10:27] <fevel> ikonia, I see
[10:27] <niter3> ikonia: bann..
[10:27] <stdin> !language | niter3
[10:27] <ubotu> niter3: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:27] <tmccrary> !language | stdin
[10:27] <ubotu> stdin: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:27] <fevel> ikonia, but firestarter does use iptables right?
[10:27] <niter3> I was just trying to be funny
[10:27] <coreymon77> ikonia: mistype again?
[10:27] <ikonia> coreymon77: totally, auto complete is off
[10:27] <stdin> tmccrary: ?
[10:27] <tmccrary> You better watch your language, I don't appreciate that
[10:27] <highoctanejg> Anyone here have experience installing phplist?
[10:28] <ikonia> coreymon77: sorry
[10:28] <Centaur5> Should I have to specify "openvpn /etc/openvpn/server.conf" every time I start it?
[10:28] <qazwsx> I need to setup an voip solution on linux; is asterisk my best bet?
[10:28] <stdin> tmccrary: what are you on about?
[10:28] <tmccrary> stdin: Exactly
[10:28] <niter3> Centaur5: dude
[10:28] <niter3> Centaur5: That's why you run the startup script
[10:28] <tmccrary> stdin: Bottom line, stop it
[10:28] <stdin> hmm
[10:28] <niter3> Centaur5: /etc/init.d
[10:28] <ikonia> stdin: scroll up for niter3 bad language please
[10:28] <stdin> ikonia: I've warned niter3 now
[10:28] <mightymoe> Howdy there Ubuntu masters.  I am new to the Linux scen and wanted to give Ubuntu 7.04 a shot.  I've posted a rather long description on the Ubuntu forums this morning but have not got a reply yet would it be ok if I tried to describe my issue here or maybe post the forum link so one of you fine gurus might be able to give a newbie some directions?
[10:28] <tmccrary> qazwsx: Yes, pretty much, asterisk very robust
[10:29] <ikonia> stdin: gratzi
[10:29] <Centaur5> niter3: okay, I just thought maybe that's what I did wrong cause when I was testing it I ran it manually and now that I reboot my client can connect but can't ping the local ip addresses.
[10:29] <tmccrary> ikonia: Don't worry, I also warned stdin
[10:29] <niter3> Centaur5: all applications usually come with scripts you start the service with. You usually find these under /etc/init.d .
[10:29] <ctothej> !ask | mightymoe
[10:29] <ubotu> mightymoe: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:29] <spinner_> eny here tested knoppix? and if so do know if usb is supported ?
[10:29] <lloyd> hi all :p
[10:29] <genii> mightymoe: might be good to just give your posting URL
[10:29] <stdin> tmccrary: warned me for what?
[10:29] <ikonia> spinner_: join #knoppix
[10:29] <bjames> mightymoe: the general rule is ask away and see if you get a reply
[10:29] <tmccrary> stdin: I shouldn't have to tell you
[10:29] <lloyd> how do i change the java frostwire uses ???
[10:29] <oshiii-_^> -_-
[10:29] <Centaur5> niter3: And my server obviously started that script when I rebooted but it rendered my client access useless.
[10:30] <mightymoe> greathttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=567907 is my post
[10:30] <bjames> mightymoe: in the time you take to ask if you can ask you could have asked ;-)
[10:30] <MrObvious> clos: Hmm no idea. Sorry.
[10:30] <clos> k
[10:31] <lloyd> how do i change the java frostwire uses ??????
[10:31] <ryanakca> What's a recommended internet kiosk distro? There was one in Linux Format a while back... and I could always heavily modify an ubuntu/xubuntu live CD ... (it would be a live CD so that all they have to do is reboot if ever they have a problem)
[10:31] <riaal> Really need some help, when following the "Macbook" howto on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook  the Madwifi driver file is missing, can anyone here help me find a replacement? (The link is broken)
[10:31] <jeleta> hi
[10:31] <ryanakca> sorry... wrong channel, I was going to ask in -offtopic
[10:32] <fevel> stdin, now aint he a crazy guy?
[10:32] <fevel> stdin, you said no foul language
[10:32] <jeleta> can someone help me
[10:32] <fevel> at least I didnt see it
[10:32] <ziv> hi, I'm not sure what do I need to put in "Local Alias" in the GAIM program if I want to use it for MSN instant messaging. Can you help me?
[10:32] <stdin> fevel: I know :)
[10:32] <mightymoe> kinda dove in to the whole thing head first after scouring different multi boot guides, but I believe the guts of my issues are in the post... just not sure which direction to go.  Vista and XP installed on 2 diff IDEs and then installed Ubuntu on a 3 drive SATA... getting GRUB errors now lovely generic "Error 22" when booting to Ubuntu
[10:32] <riaal> Anyone have an ide what to do when this don't work in a ubuntu wifi: wget http://snapshots.madwifi.org/madwifi-hal-0.9.30.13-current.tar.gz
[10:32] <razer> Hi
[10:32] <fevel> wacky
[10:33] <jeleta> hi
[10:33] <lloyd> how do i change the java frostwire uses ??????
[10:33] <lloyd> it wont open
[10:33] <lloyd> :s
[10:33] <mightymoe> sry previous paste messed up... here's the link again to the forum post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=567907
[10:33] <fevel> lloyd, you probably have open java
[10:33] <lloyd> i installed the newest java but he just wont open the screen
[10:33] <fevel> lloyd, you need the sun java
[10:33] <razer> I want to install Ubuntu on a new machine. Should I be installing 7.04 or 7.10, beta, can I easily upgrade either to 7.10 final?
[10:33] <niter3> Centaur5: what do you mean. What service is this?
[10:33] <jeleta> HELP
[10:33] <lloyd> i knw fevel but my java keeps thinking he needs to use old java instead of new one fresh installed
[10:34] <lloyd> jeleta don't ask to ask just ask
[10:34] <jeleta> how do i instal java
[10:34] <hitomaro> Hi, can someone help me partition
[10:34] <lamego> razer, the upgrade to final will be easy, however the choice to use a beta version, is yours :)
[10:34] <hitomaro> ?
[10:34] <lloyd> aptitude install sun-java6-jre
[10:34] <nickrud> !sun
[10:34] <lloyd> ...
[10:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sun - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:34] <Filthpig> is there some way for me to force all ports open?
[10:34] <razer> Lamego: How beta could it be if its only 13 days to final release?
[10:34] <Centaur5> niter3: I just barely setup a vpn server and laptop client. Before I rebooted I tested the server by manually running that command and my laptop could connect and ping my local machines. After rebooting the server ran openvpn automatically and the client can connect but doesn't have any access.
[10:34] <lloyd> Filthpig, why would you open all :s
[10:35] <lamego> razer, enough beta to cause me 3 crashes today :)
[10:35] <nickrud> lloyd: try sudo update-alternatives --config java , make sure java6 is chosen
[10:35] <clouder> echo 'something' >> ~/myfile    will add 'something' on a new line to myfile?
[10:35] <hitomaro> hello can someone please help me out partitioning? it will only take a few minutes.. I just want to refresh my memory
[10:35] <lloyd> thats it ty allot nickrud
[10:35] <ziv> Hi, could anyone help me with configuring GAIM for MSN instant messaging?
[10:35] <razer> lamego: Oh, I better use 7.04 then. I just want to be able to upgrade it to 7.10 easily.
[10:35] <fevel> hitomaro, why dont you use gparted?
[10:35] <hitomaro> gparted?
[10:35] <lamego> razer, please create a /home on a dedicated partition
[10:35] <lloyd> ty allot nickrud
[10:35] <hitomaro> oh guide
[10:35] <razer> Do you think there is a good chance that my printers will work with ubuntu?
[10:36] <lamego> fresh installs are preferable to upgrades
[10:36] <Filthpig> lloyd: appearently firestarter or something like that ahas blocked many of my ports.. So I can hardly send/recieve files over msn, and azureus tells me I'm firewalled
[10:36] <hitomaro> yeah I'm afraid of accidentally deleted the rest of my hd
[10:36] <nickrud> razer: linuxprinting.org , look there for printer support info
[10:36] <TonyBear> How can i make adobe flash working with firefox, on amd64 machine??? Like it did with Suse!!
[10:36] <lamego> razer, it depends on the printer model :)
[10:36] <razer> ok
[10:36] <fevel> cant see how you could have done that
[10:36] <lamego> TonyBear, you will need to install the nspluginwrapper
[10:36] <jimcooncat> hitomaro: are you doing a new install? repartitioning an existing one? Have a live cd?
[10:36] <lloyd> Filthpig idk why you would even use msn to send stuf rapidshare owns ...
[10:36] <lap> TonyBear: you need to install firefox 32bit with 32 bit support for your machine
[10:36] <fevel> ...unless you have no eyes
[10:36] <nickrud> !flash64
[10:36] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[10:36] <lamego> lap, not he does not :)
[10:36] <hitomaro> Live CD installing a new one
[10:37] <Filthpig> lloyd: tell that to my 30+ friends
[10:37] <hitomaro> jimcooncat*
[10:37] <tim167> does anyone here know something about datarecovery ? i have a harddisk that doesnt mount anymore but it contains important data :( thanks
[10:37] <nickrud> lap: just above, I forgot to point it at you
[10:37] <skarface> does anyone know if there's a way to enable pictures from Word 2007 and the blog api?
[10:37] <niter3> Centaur5: Which config file is it using. You probably need to edit the config file the script calls upon.
[10:37] <fevel> hitomaro, then you probably didnt delete it
[10:37] <jimcooncat> hitomaro: you have your data backed up?
[10:37] <fevel> hitomaro, what dows df say??
[10:37] <lloyd> lmao Filthpig i got 200 persons or more and even i dont got any prob just tell them to upload at rapidshare.com
[10:37] <ziv> HEY! ANYONE OUT THERE? could someone help me understand how to configure GAIM for MSN instant messaging? Please?..
[10:37] <Centaur5> niter3: I'm assuming you're referring to configuring /etc/init.d/openvpn?
[10:37] <lap> oh nice
[10:37] <lap> I'm learning something
[10:37] <lap> =)
[10:38] <Jensen> Is there a way to install a meta package and not have it install one of the dependancies from apt?
[10:38] <fevel> google
[10:38] <hitomaro> I don't have my data backed up, the rest is my windows install.. I just want to use a partion of my HardDrive for Ubuntu
[10:38] <Filthpig> it sucks to wait for five or more minutes when somebody just wants to show you a funny picture or something
[10:38] <lamego> Jensen, dont think so, a meta package is a list of dependencies
[10:38] <niter3> Centaur5: THat is the script that calls the binary and also tells it which config file to use so it knows how to operate. You need to find the openvpn config file and edit to your liking. It's probably in /etc/openvpn/ or /etc
[10:38] <hitomaro> partition*
[10:38] <Jensen> eh, thats gonna be annoying to have to versions of soemthing installed then
[10:38] <nickrud> Jens_: you could create an equivs package, and fool the metapackage into thinking it's already installed  see the package equivs
[10:39] <Filthpig> nad I have no intention forcing people to use other things than the ones they're used to just to suit my needs
[10:39] <Jensen> nickrud: ill check that then
[10:39] <lloyd> Filthpig elitepicturehostiong
[10:39] <Centaur5> niter3: The openvpn script is pointing to /etc/openvpn which is where my server.conf file is.
[10:39] <lloyd> dam man use google :p
[10:39] <niter3> Centaur5: okay well edit the server.conf
[10:39] <Filthpig> it's not a question about rapidshare or elitepicturehosting
[10:39] <jimcooncat> hitomaro: the Live CD should do that for you fine without a lot of figureing out what to do. I wouldn't do it without a backup, but that's me.
[10:39] <niter3> Centaur5: I gotta run dude. Gotta get going. Thanks Giving this weekend! Got a big 3 hour drive tonight... take it easy
[10:40] <Centaur5> niter3: okay, thanks for the tip
[10:40] <Filthpig> If I want to send somebody something, I do it through msn, and if people wants to send me something they do it through msn
[10:40] <mightymoe> not sure if anyone grabbed my link i posted it's a triple multi boot error http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=567907 please lend a hand if possible i've been trying to get this working for about 3 days lol
[10:40] <lloyd> well fithpig then you prob aren't the fastest around here :(
[10:40] <mightymoe> my PC knowledge shrunk quite a bit lol when I jumped into this hehe
[10:41] <jimcooncat> mightymoe: that's a lot to grok
[10:41] <orangefly> is it possible to install a polaroid a310 as a webcam....???....
[10:41] <hitomaro> ok jimcooncat, thanks
[10:42] <jimcooncat> hitomaro: just follow the prompts and cross your fingers
[10:42] <mightymoe> totally jimcooncat a lot to take in
[10:42] <gnychis> how can i build or download vmlinux, not vmlinuz?
[10:43] <jimcooncat> mightymoe: no way to reinstall vista so you can start with a clean disk?
[10:43] <orangefly> is it possible to install a polaroid a310 as a webcam....???....
[10:44] <Name> hi german??
[10:44] <mightymoe> jimcooncat could be done, but it is on a different disk than what I am installing Ubuntu to
[10:44] <vocx> !de | Name
[10:44] <ubotu> Name: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:44] <Name> ja komme  auchaus deutchland
[10:45] <Pici> !de | Name
[10:45] <ader10> A problem that I think won't take too long to fix: I'm not great with ALSA or anything so I can't really do much, but my sound isn't working. recent major changes: install kde
[10:45] <ubotu> Name: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:45] <jimcooncat> mightymoe: I'd unplug it your windows disks, then wipe and fresh install the others
[10:45] <pots_line> ubuntu 6.06.1 . . . anyone know a really quick way to bring up a secondary ethernet interface without binding an IP to it . . .in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:45] <ixian_> hi, can someone recommend me a torrent program for linux that is like utorrent? and not azureus
[10:45] <lap> ixian_: ktorrent
[10:46] <ixian_> does that work with gnome?
[10:46] <dgjones> !torrent | ixian_
[10:46] <ubotu> ixian_: Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt), rTorrent (C++) -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[10:46] <mightymoe> basically jimcooncat drive0 has Vista installed (60gig part) and a data part (remainder of drive) XP on a 20gig and then a sata that originally just data... i shrank the partition to free up 30 gigs to share the linux partition and swap partition... so you are saying to basically unplug the drives with the OS's and then install Ubuntu again on the SATA?
[10:47] <boogieman> what is the command for me to remove application dependencies after i have unninstalled a program and for removing dpkg?
[10:47] <qazwsx> I need to reduce the size of /usr ... is there a way to say "apt-get clean out all crap from /usr, except for expilicity installed packages?"
[10:47] <ixian_> does ktorrent work in gnome?
[10:47] <MrPink> Hi, does anyone have any idea, why my picasa crashes when I try to start it...? its starts up and I see the application but I can press any icons or buttons and am forced to "force quit" the application...
[10:47] <mightymoe> Drive0 or C: is where all my windows boot files are link the ntdetect for xp and so on
[10:47] <jimcooncat> mightymoe: You got anything on your I: drive (Disk 2)?
[10:48] <mightymoe> yes jimcooncat data... all of my drives have something that's why i tried to trim a partition :(
[10:49] <riaal> what do I need to isntall to use svn?
[10:49] <stdin> riaal: "subversion"
[10:49] <EviL_SmUrF> Hey guys, I just installed the Tahoma font into ubuntu and set it to be used for everything. However, for some reason some applications are not obeying that. How can I fix this problem? I am using gnome
[10:50] <riaal> stdin, cheers!
[10:50] <ader10> EviL_SmUrF: are the root applications?
[10:50] <ader10> are they*
[10:50] <EviL_SmUrF> nah, just regular apps, such as gftp for instance. I installed gftp through add/remove, and it runs fine, but ignores my font settings
[10:50] <jimcooncat> mightymoe: so you want to go on Disk 3. You'd be able to set your bios to boot from it?
[10:51] <EviL_SmUrF> firefox works great and the font looks fabulous
[10:51] <EviL_SmUrF> but gftp, ugh
[10:51] <ader10> How did you set it as the default font?
[10:51] <MrPink> Evil_smurf have you checked out the applications settings... maybe you can set a font for the apps specificly
[10:52] <EviL_SmUrF> through preferences - fonts
[10:52] <razer> How easy is it to install Ubuntu on a macbook?
[10:52] <ader10> My question is left unanswered... any help? How can I fix my sound?
[10:52] <EviL_SmUrF> mrpink: hold on one second, didnt think about that. im starting the ubuntu laptop up right now
[10:52] <gnychis> is the vmlinux version of kernels available somewhere online?  I can only find vmlinuz in packages
[10:52] <razer> ader10: Sorry nobody answered, I don't nkow much. Your sound does not work at all?
[10:53] <mightymoe> jimcooncat: correct on Disk 3 I created a Ext3 and SWAP partition and wanted to install ubuntu there and be able to boot to that or my Vista and XP partitions located on other disks
[10:53] <MrPink> Evil_smurf just a rough guess, I am not sure either ;)
[10:53] <ader10> razer: correct
[10:53] <EviL_SmUrF> it just seems weird to me to have applications ignore your OS font settings
[10:53] <razer> Ader: do you have built in sound?
[10:53] <MrPink> but maybe some apps need the settings to come from their own config files or somthing like that
[10:53] <ikonia> gnychis: ubotu vmlinuz is the kernel
[10:53] <MrPink> yeah it would be kind of strange... but hey who knows? :-D
[10:54] <ader10> razer: I've got a sound card that I installed seperately. I enabled it in the BIOS.
[10:54] <gnychis> ikonia: to profile the kernel i need the uncompressed version... vmlinuz is compressed
[10:54] <MrPink> I had my firefox crash when I was using a theme that conflicted with my ubuntu theme... and it wasn't only firefox, it took down my whole xserver everytime! ;)
[10:54] <ikonia> gnychis correct
[10:54] <SpiderPig> any1 here run pyslsk?
[10:54] <gnychis> ikonia: do you know how i can get vmlinux?
[10:55] <mightymoe> jimcooncat: currently ubuntu is installed on the Disk 3 Ext3 partition... I have tried the SGD cd to boot into GRUB and no dice... It will work for the Vista bootloader and get me back to windows, but havent successfully booted to Ubuntu yet... currently i am booted to the live CD to post in here and on the forums
[10:55] <EviL_SmUrF> Nope, no preference settings in gftp for fonts
[10:55] <ikonia> gnychis you can't - you'd have to build a kernel
[10:55] <Sniper00X> i'm attempting to upgrade fiesty to gusty and everything was going fine until it broke out of the upgrade-manager and threw and error caused by trying to install elisa and python-pigment ... I tried to manually update these packages without luck .. any ideas?
[10:55] <gnychis> ikonia: its not available in a package somewhere?
[10:55] <boogieman> where can i get a list of all the programs that automatix is preset with?
[10:55] <ikonia> gnychis no
[10:55] <Pici> !automatix | boogieman
[10:55] <ikonia> boogieman: automatix is not supported here
[10:55] <ubotu> boogieman: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[10:56] <razer> Ader10: Do you see the PM window?
[10:56] <ader10> razer: no
[10:56] <MrPink> Does anyone have any idea, why my picasa crashes when I try to start it...? its starts up and I see the application but I can't press any icons or buttons and am forced to "force quit" the application... :-/
[10:56] <razer> Ader10: See if your card is supported
[10:56] <Polygon89> Pici, good job of not providing him the info he needed
[10:56] <razer> Ader10: You would think there is a hardware support list or something.
[10:56] <Pici> Polygon89: automatix is *not* supported here.
[10:56] <boogieman> Pici, ikonia: i dont want to download it i just want the list of programs it comes with so i cna install some of them manually myself
[10:56] <ikonia> boogieman: its not supported here, ask in the automatix forums
[10:57] <Pici> boogieman: You'd have to look on their website.
[10:57] <razer> ader10: what sound card did you get?
[10:57] <stdin> boogieman: check the website?
[10:57] <Polygon89> Pici, notice how he asked for a list of what automatix installs, ....what he said. owned. dont spam that stuff every someone says automatix
[10:57] <boogieman> kk
[10:57] <ader10> razer: I'm not sure if it's supported, but it used to work fine and I've used it on 3 different ubuntu versions just fine
[10:57] <Polygon89> its being rewritten to not break systems. discussion over.
[10:57] <ader10> razer: OSS 1980 or something like that
[10:57] <ikonia> Polygon89: its not supported here, so thats all you can do
[10:57] <ader10> razer: non-brand-name
[10:57] <ikonia> Polygon89: its not supported, even if its the best thing on the planet
[10:57] <Pici> ikonia: well put.
[10:57] <razer> ader10: did you move it around in the pci slots after it was working?
[10:57] <_Andrew> boogieman, did you just want to install all the restricted packages or something?
[10:57] <Polygon89> ikonia, point them to the automatix website, dont spam them with useless info
[10:57] <stdin> Polygon89: still not supported, even if rewritten
[10:57] <ader10> razer: no hardware changes
[10:57] <razer> ader10: To another pci slot.
[10:57] <razer> ok
[10:58] <EviL_SmUrF> Does anyone else have any additional ideas on what to look for when applications ignore your default font settings?
[10:58] <jimcooncat> mightymoe: I'd fix the MBR with Vista's tools, then do an Ubuntu install with the alternate CD. I found the partitioning is less confusing.
[10:58] <LjL> Polygon89: i beg to differ.
[10:58] <Polygon89> LjL, about?
[10:58] <razer> ader10: Any known software change that was the sole change?
[10:58] <ader10> razer: would the fact that I installed KDE or logged out while mpd was playing mean anything?
[10:58] <Pici> Polygon89: It bad code, I'd rather send them a caveat then send them somwhere to go install it.
[10:58] <razer> ader10: No idea. I don't know a lot.
[10:58] <ikonia> let people make their own mind up
[10:58] <Polygon89> ANYWAY i have a usb microphone.  in the sound settings when i click test microphone, i can hear my microphone working, but it says that its misconfigured and doesnt work in any other program what do i do
[10:58] <Polygon89> Pici, HE DIDNT WANT TO INSTALL IT
[10:58] <LjL> Polygon89: about pointing people to the Automatix website. it's not supported here, we're not pointing anybody there, and the best we'll do - if and when we feel like - is telling people how to *get rid* of it.
[10:58] <heartsblood> !compiz
[10:58] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:58] <boogieman> _Andrew: nah done that myself I wanted to check some of the apps out but I dont want automatix on my box just having it does changes to the source list, its annoying... however i would like a list of the apps it holds :(
[10:58] <gnychis> ikonia: is there an official guide to building the kernel in ubuntu?
[10:59] <Polygon89> LjL, HE DIDNT WANT TO INSTALL IT
[10:59] <razer> ader10: Doesn't seem likely though. Any change volume got turned down?
[10:59] <stdin> Polygon89: please don't SHOUT
[10:59] <mightymoe> jimcooncat: thanks so much I also see someone added something for me to read up on on the forum will check that out as well and see where i end up
[10:59] <ikonia> gnychis: there is on https://help.ubuntu.com
[10:59] <ader10> razer: That could be possible
[10:59] <Polygon89> LjL, read his message before you spam help topics, its highly annoying
[10:59] <ChildX> hello
[10:59] <ader10> razer: How do I check that in XFCE?
[10:59] <ikonia> Polygon89: it was the right response, its nost supported.
[10:59] <jimcooncat> mightymoe: good luck with that
[10:59] <ader10> I'm having trouble figuring out XFCE... gnome is terrible and kde takes up too much ram
[10:59] <ChildX> anyone on Ubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon Beta?
[11:00] <stdin> ader10: there is #xubuntu
[11:00] <ikonia> ChildX: you'll find discussion in #ubuntu+1
[11:00] <Pici> ChildX: Yes, #ubuntu+1 for more questions/answers
[11:00] <LjL> Polygon89: look, automatix is simply *OFFTOPIC* here. if you want a list of stuff that's included in automatix, go ask the automatix folks. and this is not the channel for asking what their website is.
[11:00] <Polygon89> ikonia, notice how he wanted a list of applications so he could install them through synaptic. he wanted help on NOT USING IT
[11:00] <ChildX> thanks
[11:00] <stdin> Polygon89: please don't SHOUT!
[11:00] <ader10> stdin: ... I don't really care if there's an xubuntu channel, it doesn't change a thing except for the gui...
[11:00] <ikonia> Polygon89: I'm not disucussing it any more, but how are the people who don't support it meant to know the correct list of what it does and doesn't do - get support form the appropriate place the automatix website
[11:00] <Polygon89> LjL, and thats what i posted tto that guy, link to the website, dont spam about how automatix sucks when he doesnt want to use it :D
[11:00] <Pici> ader10: But they're more knowledgable with xfce if thats what you are having trouble with.
[11:00] <stdin> ader10: but they know the XFCE GUI in there more than here, that's why I said
[11:01] <gnychis> ikonia: is it part of the official documentation or community docs?
[11:01] <razer> ader10: I dont know. Under hardware I guess. I don't think I know anything you don't know.
[11:01] <ader10> stdin: Alright.
[11:01] <ikonia> gnychis community docs, search for kernel build
[11:01] <razer> XFCE is that nice?
[11:01] <vocx> Polygon89, help by improving ubotu's factoids regarding Automatix.
[11:01] <LjL> Polygon89: you're perfectly free to do that, just as we're perfectly free to use !automatix when automatix-related questions are asked.
[11:01] <razer> xubuntu is XFCE
[11:01] <razer> ?
[11:01] <Polygon89> ANYWAY i have a usb microphone.  in the sound settings when i click test microphone, i can hear my microphone working, but it says that its misconfigured and doesnt work in any other program what do i do
[11:01] <ader10> razer: XFCE works similar to gnome but a lot cleaner and not as customizable
[11:01] <razer> NOT as customizable?
[11:02] <ader10> Pici: I'm not having trouble with XFCE. I'm having trouble with sound.
[11:02] <Pici> ader10: Ah. I misread.
[11:02] <LjL> razer: yeah, basically you cannot move windows around :) j/k
[11:02] <MrPink> My picasa crashes when I try to start it...? its starts up and I see the application but I can't press any icons or buttons and am forced to "force quit" the application...any ideas?
[11:03] <tarelerulz> Can you get  java for amd64 ubuntu or does it not matter that much if you get a 32 bit version ?
[11:03] <razer> Is there any dock that is easy to install for ubuntu that is really stable?
[11:03] <EviL_SmUrF> okay, what about this one. how can I change ubuntu's start-up screen to actually show the line-by-line services starting instead of just the progress bar
[11:03] <jdong> tarelerulz: you can get Java just fine, but not the sun Java web browser plugin
[11:03] <ader10> razer: It's not as customizable in the sense that you can't have translucent menu bars etc but xorg and sound stuff is the same
[11:04] <ader10> razer: Try "avant-window-navigator"
[11:04] <tushyd> does anyone know if you can get the xbox360 hddvd drive to work in ubuntu?
[11:04] <razer> right. I have an xp1700 machine, I wonder if xubuntu would be better for it tan ubuntu.
[11:04] <MrPink> Evil_smurf I can help you with that one I think ;)
[11:04] <ader10> razer: I'm not sure if it's supported but it looks very nice and gets good reviews. It needs compositing though
[11:04] <EviL_SmUrF> good :D
[11:04] <EviL_SmUrF> "learn me"
[11:04] <razer> what composisint?
[11:04] <Polygon89> ANYWAY i have a usb microphone.  in the sound settings when i click test microphone, i can hear my microphone working, but it says that its misconfigured and doesnt work in any other program what do i do
[11:04] <MrPink> lol I am a newb too ^^   Ill have to check where it was... but I did that too... ;)
[11:04] <MrPink> one sec
[11:04] <EviL_SmUrF> ok
[11:05] <ader10> razer: compositing is something that takes up resources (not too much) for nice-looking and sometimes very useful effects.
[11:05] <tushyd> anyone?
[11:05] <vocx> jdong, huh? First time I see you here.
[11:05] <jdong> vocx: yeah, I guess :)
[11:05] <ader10> razer: If you don't need the cool little icon shrinking/expanding on mouse-over you can do it with gnome or xfce by making a seperate  bar.
[11:06] <jdong> ader10: it rather trades one resource for another -- it uses more RAM and GPU to save CPU power
[11:06] <ader10> jdong: Yes, correct.
[11:06] <tarelerulz> jdong, the reason I ask is I saw x64 from java ,but it says it is for Suse and Red hat so I am confused about if I can get it for ubuntu.
[11:06] <EviL_SmUrF> also heres a question for the easyubuntu/automatix haters. i wasnt aware it breaks system dependencies. i used easyubuntu to get all the extra fonts, codecs etc. nothing broke and it works great, but am i going to have issues upgrading to 7.10?
[11:06] <EviL_SmUrF> or will it just be a "try it and see" thing
[11:06] <LjL> EviL_SmUrF: the latter, i'm afraid. although easyubuntu tends to be better than automatix.
[11:07] <jdong> tarelerulz: I've never tried it in Ubuntu but I have seen it on other distributions, Java itself runs fine but not Java applets from a web browser
[11:07] <razer> So for my parents with an xp1700 machine which ubuntu distro will give them the least troubles?
[11:07] <razer> I think it has like 512mb ram.
[11:07] <ader10> jdong: but ram and gpu power are still resources and you can't play opengl games w/ aiglx etc
[11:07] <ader10> razer: go with plain "ubuntu" because of its ease-of-use
[11:07] <jdong> ader10: that is true, but window trails and CPU usage while moving windows are common complaints that are resolved with AIGLX
[11:07] <razer> Ok, if it is easiest, that is what they need.
[11:08] <boogieman> seriously i aint going to receive any replies from anyone in #Automatix there are like 3 ppl there and they are camping, so can pm someone who can tell me the preset apps available through automatix
[11:08] <jdong> ader10: and GPU power on the modern system is often quite unused :)
[11:08] <ader10> jdong: You still can't play opengl games though... :(
[11:08] <razer> Is there anything like a dock program you can install to make ubuntu even more user friendly?
[11:08] <nuataro> hye
[11:08] <razer> Or does a dock just make is worse.
[11:08] <Pici> boogieman: Check their website.
[11:08] <jdong> ader10: it's not that inconvenient to turn it off before spawning a game :)
[11:08] <razer> I want to make the ubuntu GUI as easy for my parents as possble.
[11:08] <LjL> boogieman, why don't you instead take a "what is is that i need to install?" point of view?
[11:08] <pike_> razer: there are a ton of applets and stuff you can add to gnome-panel and such
[11:08] <LjL> why would you need to replicate exactly what is in automatix, boogieman?
[11:08] <jdong> ader10: if gaming is that common a workflow for you... then I really envy your life :)
[11:08] <MrPink> evil_smurf  "sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"  will get you in the file you need to edit if I am not mistaking...
[11:09] <vocx> boogieman, again, why do you expect responses from us, who do not use Automatix?
[11:09] <ader10> jdong: You see, I'm 16 so my job isn't too time-consuming and I finish my h/w during school :)
[11:09] <coreymon77> i dont get it
[11:09] <coreymon77> anything you can do in automatix
[11:09] <coreymon77> you can do in apt
[11:09] <coreymon77> so why not just use apt
[11:09] <jdong> ader10: I'm not much older than you, and remember that time in my life when I did have that much free time :)
[11:10] <boogieman> LjL: I dont need every app that automatix has available only some that are useful i.e. gnomebaker, amarok, ntfs-3g which I have installed manually already and there are others but i dont remember them?
[11:10] <ader10> jdong: not much older = 20?
[11:10] <coreymon77> boogieman: you can get those from apt
[11:10] <LjL> boogieman, again, what do you *need* to do that you can't do right now?
[11:10] <LjL> boogieman: if nothing, then install nothing.
[11:10] <MrPink> evil_smurf Check if it says "quiet" behind the kernel you usually start from ?
[11:10] <coreymon77> boogieman: why use automatix when you can use apt, apt doesnt break systems
[11:10] <Amaranth> ader10, jdong: #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntuforums please :)
[11:10] <jdong> ader10: 18? 19? I don't even remember. 2007-1988 :D
[11:10] <boogieman> vocx: you may not use it but dont mean others don't use it or havent tried it
[11:10] <SeanTater> Installing the package "rpm" on a ubuntu (apt-based) system won't cause a problem will it? (I need the "rpm2cpio" program)
[11:11] <mikebot> Can someone here help me get LaTeX working?
[11:11] <Pici> SeanTater: Nope, just as long as you dont install any rpms with it.
[11:11] <coreymon77> boogieman: we know people use it
[11:11] <MrPink> evil_smurf and if it says "quiet" delete the quiet
[11:11] <coreymon77> boogieman: we are just saying you shoudnt
[11:11] <EviL_SmUrF> mrpink: awesome. thanks :)
[11:11] <ader10> Amaranth: #ubuntu-offtopic = not for serious questions, it takes a long time to get an answer to even a simple question
[11:11] <boogieman> Let me get this straight for once I am not using automatix I jut want a list of the apps it holds so i cna install them myself i know what it cna do to the box
[11:11] <Shrapnelhunter> I've got x64 Fiesty and can't get a driver for my graphics card to install - can I apt-get it?
[11:11] <vocx> boogieman, still, it is wrong to ask here. That's my point.
[11:11] <MrPink> I think that should be it... but as I said I am a newb I would backup that file before editing
[11:11] <razer> I just heard of easyUbuntu script. Is that the best thing to give me everything I need?
[11:11] <SeanTater> Pici: Thanks
[11:11] <Amaranth> ader10: I meant about the offtopic stuff (ages, games, etc)
[11:12] <MrPink> but that should do the trick ;)
[11:12] <vocx> jdong, is off topic. Ha ha! Ban him Amaranth!
[11:12] <boogieman> vocx: kk well if i aint going to get knowhere asking here or in their IRC i might as well go try gentoo out
[11:12] <razer> I want to run something that will install all the programs I need and codecs etc. Like flas and other things to get going. Is easyUbuntu script the best thing to do that or is there something that can get me more?
[11:12] <LjL> boogieman: i've got the point. but again, WHY do you NEED to know what is in automatix? just install what YOU need.
[11:12] <pike_> boogieman: its almost as easy just to search wiki.ubuntu.com (easier) for whatever you need
[11:12] <LjL> boogieman: do you need WMV codecs? then install those. you don't need them? then don't.
[11:12] <ader10> Amaranth: I meant about the still unanswered sound question. :P
[11:13] <EviL_SmUrF> MrPink: rebooting now. we'll see :P
[11:13] <MrPink> gl ;)
[11:13] <coreymon77> razer: its called apt
[11:13] <EviL_SmUrF> there we go
[11:13] <EviL_SmUrF> much better, now i can actually see whats going on
[11:13] <mikebot> Can someone here help me get LaTeX working?
[11:13] <coreymon77> boogieman: wmv can be gotten from apt
[11:13] <MrPink> that was fast :-P
[11:13] <razer> creymori: Yeah apt, if you have a list of things. But I think even apt gave me trouble once.
[11:13] <vocx> boogieman, what I wanted to say is that you could try searching the Automatix forum or even ubuntuforums.org that's all.
[11:13] <Shrapnelhunter> I've got x64 Fiesty and can't get a driver for my graphics card to install - can I apt-get it?
[11:13] <ader10> razer: "sudo aptitude install <program>"
[11:13] <MrPink> Evil_smurf or are you working with a laptop? ^^
[11:13] <pike_> razer: in ubuntu all they need to do is click add remove programs and itll install whatever they select.  be sure though to enable all the repositories for them first
[11:14] <EviL_SmUrF> i tell you, its sad. ubuntu actually boots faster on my compaq v2000z then windows xp that came with it
[11:14] <GigaClon> I tried recovering ubuntu(Grub) following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, it installed grub fine, but I can't get into Ubuntu only windows
[11:14] <MrPink> hehe
[11:14] <_Andrew> razer: Applications -> add/remove -> search: restricted
[11:14] <coreymon77> boogieman: wmv codecs are in the repos, why risk automatix
[11:14] <razer> ader: Well I mean something that will install the common setup things most machines need that ubuntu does not come with.
[11:14] <LjL> coreymon77, he does NOT want to use automatix
[11:14] <MrPink> GigaClon what happens when you try to chose Ubuntu... or is it not listed ?
[11:14] <EviL_SmUrF> and this is the first time, ever, that a linux distro just worked out of the box with little work in the 2 years or so ive had this thing. and ive tried several: older ubuntu versions, suse, fedora, mandriva...
[11:14] <razer> Like, when I tried Linspire it came with EVERYTHING.
[11:15] <coreymon77> LjL: okay, well then whats the matter
[11:15] <mehmetserif> how can i disable the touchpad of my laptop with feisty?
[11:15] <razer> But I notice Ubuntu comes with a LOT less than Linspire, even though it is a better OS.
[11:15] <pike_> razer: best thing you can do for them is install openssh-server so you can fix things remotely if you need to
[11:15] <EviL_SmUrF> it got my video right, audio right, the keys on the top of my laptop right for sound.. the only thing it didnt get right was wireless, but that was to be expected
[11:15] <ader10> razer: mp3 support is tricky in linux... so are some other formats
[11:15] <coreymon77> razer: thats why linspire is bloated
[11:15] <boogieman> vocx: nah can't be bothered anymore, ou seem to be the only one here that actually understood me and hasn tried to persuade me to download apps/codec i dont need, i guess its my enlgish 0_o
[11:15] <GigaClon> MrPink, it said it couldn't be mounted
[11:15] <LjL> coreymon77: the matter is that he wants a *list* of the stuff that automatix installs, so that he can do it manually. but i don't see why: when he finds out he actually *needs* something, he can just install it.
[11:15] <boogieman> *you
[11:15] <nickrud> EviL_SmUrF: lol, and even NetworkManager has started to work the way it should :)
[11:15] <razer> pike, cool idea. For helping parents from away.
[11:15] <MrPink> Evil_smurf what about your mouse... do your forward / back buttons and wheel work ?
[11:16] <coreymon77> LjL: thats logical
[11:16] <EviL_SmUrF> nickrud: Its nice not to have to go into terminal to screw around with wireless
[11:16] <razer> Is openoffice the "best" office suite?
[11:16] <IndyGunFreak> i think so.
[11:16] <vocx> boogieman, it is difficult to communicate properly indeed. This is just a misunderstanding. coreymon77 LjL
[11:16] <IndyGunFreak> some disagree obviously
[11:16] <coreymon77> LjL: he wants everything that automatix installs?
[11:16] <EviL_SmUrF> MrPink: Yea, touchpad worked fine, and even tapping works correctly. It even works with my microsoft wireless notebook mouse 3000
[11:16] <razer> Somebody at work said OpenOffice sucks and some other one was better. I didn't see anything wrong with openoffice, and I don't remember what he said was better.
[11:16] <coreymon77> LjL: and is just gonna install them even though he doesnt neccessarily need them?
[11:16] <EviL_SmUrF> i just plug it in and it just.. works
[11:16] <LjL> boogieman: it's not your english. you wanted a list of the stuff that automatix installs, and i see no valid reason WHY.
[11:16] <ader10> razer: Openoffice is great, the one terrible annoyance that I can't figure out how to disable is auto-complete words
[11:16] <razer> Guy at work said openoffice was horrible and recommended some other program.
[11:16] <_Andrew> razer: Its easy to install support for codecs. Just go to applications -> add/remove -> search for "restricted" -> click -> apply
[11:16] <GigaClon> boogieman, why don't you just browse with Synaptic?
[11:17] <LjL> coreymon77: i can't know that. he won't say.
[11:17] <ader10> razer: If you can figure out how to fix that, I'd say it's better than Word
[11:17] <Shrapnelhunter>  I've got x64 Fiesty and can't get a driver for my graphics card to install - can I apt-get it?
[11:17] <pike_> razer: i like openoffice but like ms it is bloated and kinda slow. i use abiword normally
[11:17] <razer> andrew: ok
[11:17] <hgjjjf> wow fbi just called here
[11:17] <GigaClon> MrPink i think it give me error 17
[11:17] <MrPink> Evil_smurf not bad I had to fool arround in the xorg.conf for it to accept my additional mousebuttons...
[11:17] <razer> pike: well other than MS office.
[11:17] <IndyGunFreak> boogieman: i think getautomatix.com has a list.
[11:17] <mehmetserif> how can i disable the touchpad of my laptop with feisty?
[11:17] <JFr3ak> hi everybody
[11:17] <razer> i mean just among open source office suites.
[11:17] <coreymon77> razer: i think its great
[11:17] <MrPink> GigaClon Sorry m8, I don't know how to help... I am a linux beginner as well
[11:17] <EviL_SmUrF> one thing i want to do is bind my windows key on the laptop to pop up the applications bar
[11:17] <pike_> hgjjjf: what'd they want
[11:17] <EviL_SmUrF> anyone know how to do that?
[11:17] <razer> I'm using NeoOffice, which is supposed to be OpenOffice for OS X I believe.
[11:17] <coreymon77> razer: whats the matter about it?
[11:17] <EviL_SmUrF> *applications menu* i mean
[11:18] <coreymon77> razer: youre on osx?
[11:18] <GigaClon> /boot/grub/menu.lst seems to be fine but it just can't mount my Ubuntu partitions
[11:18] <coreymon77> razer: there is an openoffice for osx
[11:18] <razer> Coreymon77: I don't know. He didn't say. I think the guy at work is a mean jerk.
[11:18] <pike_> razer: osx openoffice implementation is kina slow and clunky
[11:18] <MrPink> Evil_murf that would be a cool thing ^^
[11:18] <PriceChild> !offtopic
[11:18] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:18] <hgjjjf> pike_,  it was for a warning on downloading torrents
[11:18] <razer> Yeah, I bought a macbook, I'm on OS X.
[11:18] <coreymon77> razer: oh
[11:18] <coreymon77> razer: theres an ooo for osx
[11:18] <Aw0L> coreymon77, the versions of open office for os x require a separate instance of Xorg running no?
[11:18] <hgjjjf> pike_,  they said they r monitoring me and one more i got 10 yrs prison
[11:19] <coreymon77> Aw0L: no
[11:19] <boogieman> vocx: true I guess i need more english lessons or maybe i should explain that I have done a clean install of ubuntu and wanted the automatix app list cause they have useful apps from musci to programming and it is far easier than searching for apps myself especially since they list the top best apps for the convenience of the user.. lol i really need to get ppl to understand me
[11:19] <coreymon77> Aw0L: they are native mac
[11:19] <Aw0L> some mac programs do - like xchat I believe
[11:19] <razer> But My parents have an old PC and there software is all messed up with spyware and junk. So I was going to install Ubuntu for them.
[11:19] <Shrapnelhunter>  I've got x64 Fiesty and can't get a driver for my graphics card to install - can I apt-get it?
[11:19] <Aw0L> coreymon77, so why is there neooffice AND ooo for mac?
[11:19] <_Andrew> GigaClon: maybe you need to edit your boot line from hd1,1 to hd0,1 or something like that?
[11:19] <razer> What is the ooo?
[11:19] <coreymon77> Aw0L: two different things
[11:19] <coreymon77> razer: openoffice
[11:19] <Shrapnelhunter> razer: openoffice
[11:19] <vocx> IndyGunFreak, ha ha ha! thank goodness for answering boogieman
[11:19] <Pici> boogieman: Its not your english. Its just that we dont support automatix here, we dont know whats in it, we dont have a list, therefore you need to look on your own.
[11:19] <razer> Seems like too many O's.
[11:19] <PriceChild> !automatix | boogieman
[11:19] <ubotu> boogieman: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[11:20] <IndyGunFreak> vocx: i don't get it?... what do you mean?
[11:20] <PriceChild> razer, OpenOffice.Org
[11:20] <Pici> PriceChild: he knows..
[11:20] <Shrapnelhunter> razer: OpenOffice.Org
[11:20] <Shrapnelhunter>  I've got x64 Fiesty and can't get a driver for my graphics card to install - can I apt-get it?
[11:20] <JFr3ak> hi, can somebody help me please, i'm ussing compiz + emerald, but i want change the icons theme from the gnome system menu, but when i select any icon theme, don't change the icons
[11:20] <vocx> IndyGunFreak, you provided some page for automatix with a list?
[11:20] <razer> Oh, well ok. Well I tried to get OOO for mac and found NeoOffice is what it is called.
[11:20] <coreymon77> Aw0L: oh, sorry
[11:20] <coreymon77> Aw0L: its still beta
[11:20] <supaneko> How do I turn on Samba to allow sharing with Windows?
[11:20] <IndyGunFreak> vocx: no, i just told him tog ot o automatix homepage, it should have a list.
[11:20] <GigaClon> _Andrew, it seem to be in order everything is hd0,*
[11:21] <coreymon77> Aw0L: x11.app is very easy though
[11:21] <PriceChild> !samba > supaneko (see msg from ubotu)
[11:21] <JFr3ak> it happend just when use compiz+emerald
[11:21] <SystemVirulent> how do we install .rpm files
[11:21] <razer> So NeoOffice is the OpenOffice.org for Mac version.
[11:21] <PriceChild> !rpm | SystemVirulent
[11:21] <ubotu> SystemVirulent: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[11:21] <coreymon77> Aw0L: its provided and extremely fast
[11:21] <Aw0L> coreymon77, yeah, but you're using more resources :(
[11:21] <_Andrew> GigaClon: Whats the error message? No partition found or something like that?
[11:21] <MrPink> Evil_murf did you try the ubuntu keyboard shortcut app ?
[11:21] <ader10> SystemVirulent: Try finding a .deb for the same application.
[11:21] <Shrapnelhunter>  I've got x64 Fiesty and can't get a driver for my graphics card to install - can I apt-get it?
[11:21] <coreymon77> Aw0L: not really
[11:21] <razer> thanks guys. Got to go to the store.
[11:21] <coreymon77> Aw0L: version me
[11:21] <ader10> SystemVirulent: getdeb.net is helpful.
[11:21] <GigaClon> _andrew partition can't be mounted
[11:21] <vocx> IndyGunFreak, we've been cursing for over 30 mins and only you provided a direct link, so that counts.
[11:22] <IndyGunFreak> vocx: lol, ok... all hail indygunfreak!  :)
[11:22] <razer> Hmm. I don't know how to set away in this IRC client.
[11:22] <_Andrew> GigaClon: Can you give me your boot line please
[11:22] <EviL_SmUrF> hmmmmm here's an interesting question: I just went to keyboard shortcuts to make "Show the panel menu" work when I press my windows key on the laptop. However, if I press it again it doesn't close the panel menu. Anyone know how to make it close the panel menu if you press the key again?
[11:22] <vocx> !away | razer
[11:22] <ubotu> razer: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[11:22] <Shrapnelhunter>  I've got x64 Fiesty and can't get a driver for my graphics card to install - can I apt-get it?
[11:22] <GigaClon> _Andrew, which is that i have menu.lst open
[11:22] <razer> Should I just quit if I'm going to be away?
[11:23] <razer> Is there an "away" for IRC?
[11:23] <supaneko> Is there a way for me to reconfigure Samba?
[11:23] <GigaClon> razer you can just be idle
[11:23] <Shrapnelhunter> #ubuntu-oftopic
[11:23] <razer> ok, cya
[11:23] <PriceChild> razer, /away reason
[11:23] <supaneko> It seems like it's just not running... I can't enable shares for some reason.
[11:23] <Shrapnelhunter> #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:24] <_Andrew> GigaClon: For example mine says.. root		(hd0,0)
[11:24] <Dradik`work> I am running a virtual machine (windows xp) and I am trying to run a server on it through windows (because the server only is for windows) ... when I went to ipconfig it said it was on 10.0.2.15... is there a way I can set this up so people will be able to connect to my server running through my virutal machine
[11:24] <ader10> Still, my question remains unanswered. Will anybody help fix it?
[11:25] <nicoAMG> what other software program can i use to replace cdrecord for cd writing from command line?
[11:25] <PriceChild> ader10, repeat the question
[11:25] <GigaClon> _Andrew, when i did find /boot/grub/stage1 i got root(hd0,1) but menu.lst only has root(hd0,1) linux and root(hd0,0) windows
[11:25] <_Andrew> ader10: Sorry I didn't see your question at all
[11:25] <ader10> PriceChild: for the 6th time, I'm having trouble with sound and haven't changed any hardware, and have only installed kde
[11:25] <boogieman> how the fudge can a site that allows the download of the damned program not have a list of its apps - who the fudge does not do that when releasing a soft and making a site about it >:/
[11:26] <boogieman> well im tired going to install gentoo and try it out
[11:26] <PriceChild> ader10, I don't care how many times you've asked it.... /msg ubotu patience
[11:26] <bulmer> Dradik`work: i think its possible, i will work with you to troubleshoot it..do this,  ip a and pastebin the result
[11:26] <boogieman> thanx ppl for your time and understanding
[11:26] <GigaClon> Boogieman why do you need a list of automatix?
[11:26] <PriceChild> ader10, So sound works... you install kde (what method?) and then it doesn't work?
[11:26] <boogieman> GigaClon: lets not get into this again
[11:26] <GigaClon> why not just browse Synaptic universe
[11:26] <GigaClon> I wasn't here
[11:26] <_Andrew> GigaClon: Did you move your hard discs around or something like that?
[11:26] <boogieman> GigaClon: lol
[11:27] <ader10> PriceChild: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[11:27] <GigaClon> _Andrew, no its a laptop, only one disk
[11:27] <PriceChild> ader10, have you gone through !sound ?
[11:27] <vocx> GigaClon, yeah forget about it.       boogieman best of luck.
[11:27] <ader10> !sound
[11:27] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:27] <clouder> can someone send me a file, anything.  I just want to verify that irc file transfer works
[11:27] <GBenemy> hello: what's the package called that enables Rythmbox to play MP4 and M4A files? i looked in synaptic, but there are about 50 that start with "gstreamer-" so i don't know which one
[11:28] <ayman> hi
[11:28] <boogieman> vocx: (thats all ive been hearing since moving to ubuntu)
[11:28] <ader10> PriceChild: I'm going through it right now, I hope it works. Another problem: now Konqueror is the default browser in gnome and xfce
[11:28] <ayman> can  i get some help here
[11:28] <PriceChild> GBenemy, open up the file using totem and it'll give you a wizard to install the necessary packages
[11:28] <PriceChild> ader10, system > preferences > preferred applications, or something like that (not on ubuntu atm so can't quite remember)
[11:28] <_Andrew> GigaClon: ok, thats weird.. Did you do fixmbr in the windows recovery console? Did you say your reinstalled grub right?
[11:28] <ader10> PriceChild: I'm on XFCE
[11:29] <GBenemy> what's totem?
[11:29] <PriceChild> ader10, gah sorry missed that, I have little experience in xfce but I'm sure there'll be a gui to change that..
[11:29] <PriceChild> !totem | GBenemy
[11:29] <ubotu> GBenemy: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[11:29] <GigaClon> _andrew, yeah Grub shows up but the title is missing, above the top of the box
[11:29] <GigaClon> _Andrew, didn't use fixmbr
[11:29] <GigaClon> Windows boots fine
[11:30] <ader10> PriceChild: Yes, there is, and I have firefox selected as default web browser but Konqueror still pops up on every link clicked
[11:30] <GBenemy> ok, thanks PriceChild
[11:30] <_Andrew> GigaClon: Just so I can completely understand your situation.. it just stopped working or..?
[11:30] <GBenemy> so do i have to sudo apt-get install totem?
[11:30] <gian> ciao
[11:30] <PhenGy> when starting FTP ,  Receive error IPV6 Getaddrinfo "AMD64" error:  No address associated with hostname?  What to do to fix that?
[11:31] <pike_> PhenGy: sudo /etc/hosts  add a line like   127.0.0.1  myhostname     first run command 'hostname' to see what it is
[11:31] <PKdoR> how do i make the dir opt inside the filesystem
[11:31] <PriceChild> haven't a clue on the xfce thing then sorry ader10
[11:31] <GBenemy> ciao gian
[11:31] <pike_> PhenGy: gksudo gedit /etc/hosts i mean
[11:31] <GigaClon> _Andrew, Windows got bad, so i reinstalled a clean copy, following the Recovering GRUB wiki page, gave me the grub menu back again but I can't boot into Ubuntu, it said the partition can't be mounted
[11:32] <PhenGy> ok will try, brb
[11:32] <mehmetserif> how can i have network with my another computer which has xp installed?
[11:32] <vocx> GBenemy, packages may not have simple names, so use synaptic to view all available packages, or do a "apt-cache search totem" Once you know the package name it is trivial to install software.
[11:32] <SystemVirulent> how to install .bin filesd
[11:32] <PriceChild> SystemVirulent, what is it?
[11:32] <SystemVirulent> i am trying to installjava wireless toolkit 2.0
[11:32] <GBenemy> thnx vocx...
[11:32] <ader10> PriceChild: I've done aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop because of the annoyances but they persist
[11:32] <GigaClon> SystemVirulent, double click?
[11:32] <ayman>  any body work with phpsuex module  in  apache
[11:32] <PriceChild> SystemVirulent, I'd assume sudo /path/to/file.bin
[11:32] <ader10> PriceChild: I like KDE better than GNOME but it's so unintegrated to ubuntu.
[11:32] <_Andrew> GigaClon: Ok, right. Do you have a line in your menu.lst that says... kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-16-generic root= blah blah blah....
[11:33] <GigaClon> yeah
[11:33] <Lukl> which pakage Should I install if I get this: configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables ?
[11:33] <PKdoR> how can I make a dir inside the filesystem?
[11:33] <Pici> Lukl: build-essential
[11:33] <SystemVirulent> nope that didn't work
[11:33] <Lukl> thc
[11:33] <mehmetserif> how can i have network with my another computer which has xp installed?
[11:33] <Lukl> thx*
[11:33] <pike_> PKdoR: mkdir
[11:33] <GBenemy> gian: hi
[11:33] <GigaClon> Title Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.20-16-386
[11:33] <_Andrew> GigaClon:  ... and does it have.. UUID= ... followed by numbers and letters?
[11:33] <PriceChild> mehmetserif, plug ethernet into both of them?
[11:33] <GigaClon> yeah
[11:34] <Lukl> but I allready have that one Pici... :P
[11:34] <mehmetserif> PriceChild, yes
[11:34] <GigaClon> _Andrew, its the correct UUID for the device
[11:34] <PriceChild> GigaClon, why are you using the -386 kernel?
[11:34] <_Andrew> ok
[11:34] <PriceChild> mehmetserif, there you go, you have a network.
[11:34] <mehmetserif> PriceChild, i mean i have an adsl modem
[11:34] <mjancaitis> Lukl, might need gcc, see if it's installed
[11:34] <GigaClon> PriceChild, its what was installed?
[11:34] <PriceChild> mehmetserif, so you want to share your internet connection?
[11:34] <pike_> GigaClon: /msg ubotu generic
[11:34] <PriceChild> GigaClon, no... that's not default. You installed it.
[11:34] <mehmetserif> PriceChild, no i want to see the documents
[11:34] <pike_> GigaClon: youre not on breezy or something right?
[11:34] <simenf> org/join #kubuntu
[11:35] <simenf> wops, sorry
[11:35] <GigaClon> pike_, no Feisty
[11:35] <mehmetserif> PriceChild, my adsl modem has 4 ports and works like a hub
[11:35] <PriceChild> mehmetserif, documents off of ubuntu or windows on ubuntu or windows?
[11:35] <mehmetserif> PriceChild, documents on windows
[11:35] <PriceChild> !pm | SystemVirulent
[11:35] <ubotu> SystemVirulent: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[11:35] <Kronos> right so i reinstalled ubuntu (7.04) this time with a 1 GB swap file but its still doing the same funny thing loads up but when the loading bar gets to about 95% it restarts for no reason.... i'm in "safe mode" but i have no idea what to do ... never used linux before... i sopose the logical thing to do is check boot logs of some sort if they exist but how on earth do i get to them???
[11:35] <hype_> anyone havng trouble with linux-restricted moudles on utsy?
[11:36] <PriceChild> mehmetserif, should be as simple as places > network, then browse to the machine on the network
[11:36] <pike_> Kronos: swap is amost never a big deal on modern desktop systems
[11:36] <PriceChild> !gutsy | hype_
[11:36] <ubotu> hype_: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[11:36] <mjancaitis> hype_: go to #ubuntu+1 for gutsy questions
[11:36] <hype_> true
[11:36] <GBenemy> vocx: I did the totem thing, and apt-get'd it, however it said that i had the latest version, except i can't find it in any of my menus
[11:36] <GigaClon> GBenemy, its called Movie Player
[11:36] <PriceChild> GBenemy, applications > sound/video > movie player
[11:36] <PhenGy> pike,  i do  hostname       and it come up as AMD64,    int the  etc/hosts       there are 2 host,   Localhost and AMD64  127.0.0.1  and  127.0.1.1
[11:36] <mehmetserif> PriceChild, well at network section there is a windows network and under that i can see my xp's name but cannot reach it i mean no connection
[11:37] <pike_> Kronos: try this: gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst   scroll to the first title and kernel lines and remove the splash at end of kernel save and reboot. at least then youll see more info as youre booting
[11:37] <PriceChild> mehmetserif, pardon?
[11:37] <GBenemy> ohh
[11:37] <vocx> Kronos, I think you may be having problems with video drivers. Read all you can on nVidia and ATI.
[11:37] <Kronos> pike_: didnt think so but since it was acting wired i decided to reinstall it and add a swap area anyway... (have 2 GB of mem so wouldnt have thought it'd make a diff... and it didnt)
[11:37] <_Andrew> GigaClon: I found a thread on the forums which is like your situation.. They suggest you boot up the live CD and run "sudo fdisk -l" get the new UUID and edit your menu.lst... here's the thread... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=477169
[11:37] <GBenemy> oh i can't import from here damn
[11:37] <mjancaitis> What can I do about power management problems in Feisty? My battery drops 30% in 8 minutes when unplugged and it's damn near impossible to recharge, but windows handles it correctly
[11:37] <Lukl> aha I forgot It wasn't my computer that was getting the fault :P
[11:37] <Lukl> it was build-ess, thx
[11:37] <SystemVirulent> so how to we install java java_wireless_toolkit.bin in ubuntu
[11:37] <CoasterMaster> mjancaitis, how old is your battery?
[11:37] <pike_> PhenGy: not sure then. i dont have alot of exp with ftp servers typically i use ssh since it allows sftp and scp
[11:37] <GigaClon> _Andrew, when i did "sudo grub" and tab complete root(hd0, it gives me 4 entrys
[11:38] <mjancaitis> CoasterMaster: it actually just got replaced today, same thing happened with both
[11:38] <PhenGy> how do i setup SSH ?
[11:38] <GigaClon> 0,1,3,4 no two
[11:38] <mehmetserif> PriceChild, i mean when i click places> network there is a Windows Network
[11:38] <PriceChild> SystemVirulent, are you sure it isn't in the ubuntu repositories?
[11:38] <GBenemy> mjancaitis, my battery lasts longer in ubuntu than in windows (even of "Power Saver" mode)
[11:38] <pike_> PhenGy: sudo apt-get install openssh-server   <-- thats it.
[11:38] <SystemVirulent> nope
[11:38] <PriceChild> PhenGy, could you explain further?
[11:38] <mehmetserif> PriceChild, and then i can see my computer's name
[11:38] <mjancaitis> GBenemy: used to for me too, that's why I'm confused
[11:38] <GBenemy> ah
[11:38] <PhenGy> pike do i need to configure SSH server?
[11:38] <PriceChild> SystemVirulent, have you read the readme from wherever you obtained this bin on how to install it?
[11:38] <mehmetserif> PriceChild, and then i double clik it but cannot see my shared files
[11:38] <PriceChild> PhenGy, it will work out of the box
[11:38] <izte> hi.i have LANG="nb_NO.ISO-8859-1" in my /etc/environment, and it has worked perfectly... but after the last reboot "locale" shows utf-8. tried to re-generate the locale nb_NO, and rebooted, but locale still shows uft8...
[11:39] <pike_> PhenGy: if you need to connect from windows there is a handy prog called winscp and of course putty if you just want a remote terminal. remember to forward port 22 on your router if you will connect from internet
[11:39] <pike_> PhenGy: no config at all
[11:39] <PriceChild> PhenGy, just apt-get install it and it'll start and work fine.
[11:39] <pike_> PhenGy: unless you want to
[11:39] <SystemVirulent> pricechild it got installation for redhat linux
[11:39] <PriceChild> mehmetserif, well then I'd assume its a problem on the windows end.
[11:39] <PKdoR> Damn!!
[11:39] <SystemVirulent> PriceChild,but i am very sure that bin can be install on ubuntu aswell
[11:40] <spinner_> how can i chk if my settings for the wireless network card
[11:40] <mehmetserif> PriceChild, but i can connect that windows machine with another windows machine
[11:40] <Kronos> pike_: ok i just tryed that command, and i got a nice lil msg saying (gksu : 4677) : gtk-warning **: cannot open display
[11:40] <PhenGy> im on windows xp now, i use winscp to connect to my shell account,  but i just install ubunto on my other pc, and i cannot use WINSCP to conncet to it,  all i want to do is be able to connect to my Ubunto box with WINSCP so i dont have to run back and forth
[11:40] <user_> Gutsy_b user
[11:40] <drgeb> anyone knows how dbvscan works I keep getting this WARNING frontend type (ATSC) is not compatible with requested tuning type (OFDM)
[11:40] <Angryelf> how can I kill the ubuntu startup screen so that I can see what it's doing?
[11:40] <mjancaitis> spinner_: check out gnome-network-manager
[11:40] <spinner_> tnxc
[11:40] <ader10> PriceChild: I fixed the sound in xfce by just doing one thing :D
[11:40] <PriceChild> mehmetserif, I don't know sorry.
[11:40] <PriceChild> ader10, how'd you do it? :D
[11:41] <_Andrew> PhenGy: I don't know about that. But I have connected to ubuntu machines fine by using putty and ssh
[11:41] <Angryelf> how can I force a hard drive check like the one that happens every 30 mounts?
[11:41] <Pici> Angryelf: sudo touch /forcefsck then reboot
[11:41] <PriceChild> Angryelf, I think if you sudo shutdown with the -F flag, it will force it on next reboot.
[11:41] <ader10> PriceChild: I was hoping you would ask. My speakers were on but I turned down the volume earlier to talk on the phone. I saw the little light and figured it was a software problem! xD
[11:41] <Gutsy_b> PhenGy: Check this out!!
[11:41] <Angryelf> Pici: PriceChild what if i want to do it on another filesystem?
[11:41] <Gutsy_b> http://www.nomachine.com/
[11:42] <PriceChild> *smacks ader10* :P
[11:42] <mjancaitis> What can I do about power management problems in Feisty? My battery drops 30% in 8 minutes when unplugged and it's damn near impossible to recharge, but windows handles it correctly
[11:42] <ader10> PriceChild: *The logging of this line entitles you to 6 minutes of your life back*
[11:42] <vocx> Angryelf, with "fsck" you need to make sure your drives or filesystems are unmounted, like at start up. Read the manual page.
[11:43] <PhenGy> THX,  SSH server install work !
[11:43] <Angryelf> vocx: fsck, ty
[11:43] <PriceChild> Angryelf, unmount it and fsck it?
[11:44] <lImItaO> hi
[11:44] <_Andrew> hi
[11:44] <vocx> PriceChild, that was mean.
[11:44] <Angryelf> anyone know how till kill the ubuntu startup screen so i can see what's going on?
[11:44] <mjancaitis> vocx: but mounting and fscking would be all kinds of nice
[11:44] <Pici> vocx: it wont let him if its in use.
[11:45] <Gutsy_b> Phengy: did you check that out? I am more than impressed . There is even a testdrive section online, and it is free.
[11:45] <Gutsy_b> http://www.nomachine.com/testdrive.php
[11:45] <Pici> !freenx | Gutsy_b
[11:45] <ader10> How can I run Ubuntu on Windows on a USB stick?
[11:45] <PhenGy> i save that URL to favorites Gutsy,  TyVM
[11:45] <PKdoR> I manually installed Azureus but up dated it and I need the older version 3.0.3.0 not 3.0.3.4. and when I rm the installation folder and the .azureus file in the home folder even after I re install v3.0.3.0 I still get 3.0.3.4, can some one help i need to downgrade azureus to 3.0.3.0
[11:45] <vocx> Pici, it was a pun, read what mjancaitis said.
[11:45] <ubotu> Gutsy_b: FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[11:45] <Pici> vocx: ah
[11:45] <mjancaitis> ader10:
[11:45] <mjancaitis> ader10: http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-on-usb-bar
[11:45] <Gutsy_b> Thx for the free nx link Pici
[11:45] <bulmer> Angryelf: you can switch over to ctrl+alt+F1 to see whats going on during boot
[11:46] <GigaClon> _Andrew it works all I had to do is change, root(hd0,2) to root(hd0,1)
[11:46] <_Andrew> Angryelf: When your in the grub select the kernel you want to boot, press the "e" key instead of enter.. then select the second line and press e again... delete "quiet splash" and then press enter and then the "b" key
[11:46] <_Andrew> GigaClon: Ah! I knew it would be a numbers game
[11:46] <ech0dish> what? you can't figure out how to install ubuntu? buy a computer with ubuntu already installed from me then... http://stores.ebay.com/Houston-CompCycle
[11:46] <mjancaitis> Sweet, spammers
[11:46] <ader10> mjancaitis: I mean on windows.
[11:47] <PriceChild> mjancaitis, hmm?
[11:47] <PKdoR> I manually installed Azureus but up dated it and I need the older version 3.0.3.0 not 3.0.3.4. and when I rm the installation folder and the .azureus file in the home folder even after I re install v3.0.3.0 I still get 3.0.3.4, can some one help i need to downgrade azureus to 3.0.3.0
[11:47] <mjancaitis> ader10: wellllll that I don't know... but you might be able to do so from a LiveCD
[11:47] <ader10> mjancaitis: I can't boot into ubuntu on windows, I need something like vmware to run it...
[11:47] <Kronos> yeah video problems is hight on the list since i have a rather funny grphics card but aint got a clue how to sort it out, i mean the only thing that seems to work is the kernel safe mode but i cant do nothing with it... any ideas?
[11:48] <ech0dish> you can't boot into ubuntu on windows?
[11:48] <ader10> ech0dish: lol
[11:48] <Pici> ech0dish: Please don't plug your website here.
[11:49] <turlututu> how can i create a shortcut program in shell ? (eg: "apachectl restart")
[11:49] <_Andrew> PKdoR: maybe you have both installed?
[11:49] <mjancaitis> ader10: are you saying you can't get a LiveCD working?
[11:49] <ech0dish> you should put it in the topic instead :P
[11:49] <ader10> mjancaitis: No. I don't want to BOOT into linux, I need to run it from within windows.
[11:49] <PKdoR> _Andrew: ??
[11:49] <PriceChild> !offtopic > ech0dish
[11:49] <ader10> mjancaitis: I can get a livecd to work, though :)
[11:49] <PriceChild> ader10, virtualisation?
[11:49] <ader10> PriceChild: Yes.
[11:49] <ech0dish> if you need to run an os inside another os then get an os emu
[11:50] <mjancaitis> ader10: oh.... yeah, no idea
[11:50] <_Andrew> PKdoR: You said you installed Azureus yourself to maybe the other version is located somewhere else on your partition?
[11:50] <ader10> mjancaitis: well thanks for offering suggestions :)
[11:50] <PKdoR> _Andrew: but I rm the folders in the file system and in the home folder before reinstallation?
[11:50] <ech0dish> get vmware or virtual box
[11:50] <ader10> ech0dish: I've tried vmware but not virtual box, which is better?
[11:50] <spinner_> I only found gnome-network-preferences not manager
[11:50] <ech0dish> vb
[11:51] <ech0dish> cause its free
[11:51] <wib> hi, anybody with a swiss keyboard and XGL here? I need to configure capital "umlauts" :)
[11:51] <spinner_> mjancaitis:  I only found gnome-network-preferences not manager
[11:51] <ader10> spinner_: gnome-control-center has all (I think) of the gnome configuration dialogs
[11:51] <mjancaitis> spinner_: did that get you what you were looking for?
[11:51] <spinner_> no
[11:51] <bluefox83> is a swiss keyboard anything like a swiss army knife? ;)
[11:52] <spinner_> im looking for to se if i can use my wireless card
[11:52] <ader10> bluefox83: I'm sure it is but it hurts to type, you have to be careful to not cut yourself.
[11:52] <spinner_> or if it even is installed
[11:52] <bluefox83> lol
[11:52] <wib> bluefox83: yeah, it has like all characters you can think of. 
[11:52] <spinner_> ader10: :) chk it out
[11:52] <tonynlisa> I wanted to take a survey of what everyone uses for Burning CDs. I have typically used Gnome Baker, but wondered if anyone else had better suggestions
[11:53] <khatahn> how do i check what process is reserving the audio output device for itself?
[11:53] <J-_> tonynlisa: k3b
[11:53] <Kejk_PL> khatahn: try lsof /dev/dsp
[11:53] <ader10> tonynlisa: k3b
[11:53] <ader10> tonynlisa: k3b is the best linux cd/dvd/vcd writer by far
[11:54] <tonynlisa> Neat O
[11:54] <tonynlisa> tonynlisa@hq:~$ sudo apt-get install k3b
[11:54] <ader10> tonynlisa: You might need qt
[11:54] <ech0dish> sudo apt-get install *
[11:54] <ader10> ech0dish: lol
[11:54] <khatahn> Kejk_PL: actually that's what i tried earlier, but it didn't seem to give me anything. yet i can't use audio
[11:54] <Kronos> vocx: it sounded to you like video drivers.... funnly enough my graphics card its quite a funny one, so that's quite likely what it is, can you point me  somewhere a bit more specific as to how i could solve this problem...
[11:54] <Cusoon959> How can I make certain keyboard shortcuts run commands?
[11:54] <tonynlisa> I've found apt to be quite good at getting dependantcys
[11:54] <Cusoon959> nvm
[11:54] <Cusoon959> lol
[11:55] <Cusoon959> found a solution
[11:55] <tonynlisa> Are there any people here that write linux software?
[11:55] <mjancaitis> Nobody writes linux software
[11:55] <mjancaitis> Fairies give it to us
[11:56] <mjancaitis> And we thank them endlessly
[11:56] <PriceChild> ech0dish, Please don't suggest things like that in this channel.
[11:56] <tonynlisa> yeah... where do they congrigate?
[11:56] <PriceChild> tonynlisa, why, what'd you like to ask them?
[11:56] <_Igoogle_> I would like to make a keyboard shortcut to open a terminal...how can I go about doing that?
[11:56] <ech0dish> like what?
[11:56] <PriceChild> !offtopic
[11:56] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:56] <ech0dish> oh
[11:56] <hagna> man where does cron log to when commands don't succeed
[11:56] <tonynlisa> Well, I guess what is the most worthwhile stuff to learn. I just picked up php, and am pretty decent, so I wanted to get into real coding
[11:57] <tonynlisa> I imagine most stuff is done in C still?
[11:57] <PriceChild> !participate | tonynlisa
[11:57] <ubotu> tonynlisa: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
[11:57] <Hilikus> how do i make phpmyadmin use https instead of http?
[11:57] <PriceChild> tonynlisa, ubuntu prefers python afaik.
[11:57] <tonynlisa> hmm
[11:57] <rgl> is there a way to log tcp socket creation and destruction?
[11:58] <tonynlisa> is python a full blown language, or more like a scriptiing language?
[11:58] <orangefly> is it possible to launch sopcast channels from firefox in ubuntu
[11:58] <GBenemy> tonynlisa: full blown, but only snakes can speak it, it consists of lots of hissing noises
[11:58] <rgl> tonynlisa, full blown.
[11:58] <NewOnThis> hi everyone
[11:58] <preaction> tonynlisa, it can be an interpreted language, or it can be compiled into bytecode, what do you mean by "Scripting language"?
[11:58] <GBenemy> hi
[11:59] <Y3k> in a terminal environment, how do i switch between workstations?
[11:59] <orangefly> is it possible to launch sopcast channels from firefox in ubuntu
[11:59] <filthpig> hi, just a quick question: If I install Ubuntu (gutsy) with norwegian as system language, I can later change that into english if I want to, right?
[11:59] <NewOnThis> I came here because I have a little big problem xD
[11:59] <GBenemy> get up, walk to the other and sit down
[11:59] <mjancaitis> filthpig: yes
[11:59] <tonynlisa> I guess you just answered it. weather its compiled on the fly
[11:59] <GBenemy> NewOnThis, go on
[11:59] <filthpig> good
[11:59] <PriceChild> GBenemy, The wise speak because they have something to say. Fools speak because they have to say something.
[11:59] <tonynlisa> or if you make binarys
[11:59] <NewOnThis> when I'm installing Ubuntu, it loads a sort of things, and then my screen goes standy by
[11:59] <NewOnThis> so  I can't install :(
[11:59] <tonynlisa> I gotcha
[11:59] <GBenemy> why not?
[11:59] <GBenemy> oh
[11:59] <Y3k> by workstation i mean another terminal
[11:59] <GBenemy> sorry
[12:00] <macd> Y3k, crtl+altf#
[12:00] <GBenemy> PriceChild: so how does one differentiate between the two?
[12:00] <ech0dish> newonthis, is your machine older?
[12:00] <macd> err crtl+alt+f#
[12:00] <Kronos> how can i check the boot log or something of that sort using the kernel safe mode?
[12:00] <mjancaitis> Kronos: dmesg, I think
[12:00] <MannyZ> heyaa... i cant get 7.10 beta installed. why?
[12:00] <NewOnThis> Athlon 64 3000+
[12:00] <ader10> macd: trying for ctrl alt f3?
[12:00] <PriceChild> GBenemy, In other words... please stop with the offtopic chatter and only talk if you have something to contribute when supporting a user.
[12:00] <preaction> MannyZ, #ubuntu+1 for gutsy support
[12:00] <ech0dish> i had something similar, had to create a swap partition before i was able to load the boot disk.
[12:01] <MannyZ> thanks preaction
[12:01] <Y3k> macd, thanks
[12:01] <ech0dish> nah 3000+ should run
[12:01] <GBenemy> it was supporting: i didn't lie when i said it was a full blown language
[12:01] <ech0dish> try another gfx card
[12:01] <NewOnThis> I have a 7600 GS
[12:01] <ech0dish> k, try another lol
[12:02] <Kronos> yep that does work however it just spits it all at once and i can only see the end of it how bout someway to make it go slowly, please?
[12:02] <astro76> Kronos, dmesg | less
[12:02] <NewOnThis> I'm afraid I can't... so I can't install Ubuntu? :'(
[12:02] <kst> anyone good with localepurge? how do i get to that menu again where i can select the languages i want to keep installed or removed?
[12:02] <ech0dish> perhaps with a text based installation
[12:02] <Tech-Mike> ok so i still cant get window-decor while running compiz
[12:02] <mjancaitis> NewOnThis: try the alternate install CD, there's a checkbox to get it on the download site
[12:03] <hitomaro> http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/7376/screenshotee3.png
[12:03] <hitomaro> can someone please help?
[12:03] <hitomaro> I want to install ubuntu
[12:03] <mjancaitis> hitomaro: What's the problem?
[12:03] <mjancaitis> hitomaro: will ubuntu be the only OS on here, or are you dual-booting?