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| Jucato | wth! I made the mistaked of running basket outside of kontact once. and now it's missing in kontact, even if kontactrc says that the plugin is enabled | 03:08 |
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| DaSkreech | Hmm | 03:39 |
| DaSkreech | I never use kontact | 03:39 |
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| neversfelde|mobi | DaSkreech: you should do :) | 03:59 |
| DaSkreech | I know I know | 04:00 |
| DaSkreech | once we setup our LDAP server at work I'll probably have it stand off with chandler | 04:00 |
| DaSkreech | Anyone having KDE freeze cause of tooltips? | 04:02 |
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| neversfelde|mobi | DaSkreech: no | 04:12 |
| neversfelde|mobi | I only got freezes because of knetworkmanager the last days | 04:12 |
| DaSkreech | I'm updating again to se if it fixes it | 04:13 |
| neversfelde|mobi | good luck ;) | 04:13 |
| DaSkreech | yeah | 04:35 |
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| nixternal | man, I am drawing a blank right now...what are some other new apps in KDE 4 besides Okular and Dolphin? | 05:35 |
| Jucato | kdegames? plasmoids? | 05:36 |
| nixternal | got the plasmoids wrapped together with Plasma | 05:37 |
| nixternal | I mean like brand new | 05:37 |
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| nixternal | actually...no, I will list a couple new apps, and then list some updated apps | 05:37 |
| nixternal | that will fill in the bullets | 05:37 |
| Jucato | come to think of it.. no I don't know any new apps :) | 05:38 |
| Jucato | silly basket-kontact bug annoying me | 05:39 |
| nixternal | KDE Games, KOffice, Amarok...anything else getting a big update that comes to mind | 05:39 |
| Jucato | marble? | 05:40 |
| Jucato | funky new kwin? | 05:41 |
| nixternal | ooh, good call | 05:41 |
| Tm_T | Kopete? :( | 05:41 |
| Jucato | ugh don't remind me... | 05:41 |
| === Jucato is severely disappointed in Konqi 4 right now | ||
| Tm_T | Jucato: remind | 05:41 |
| Jucato | hmph | 05:42 |
| nixternal | Kopete isn't going to be pretty, at least that is what I have been reading | 05:42 |
| nixternal | they just now started the KDE 4 porting of it | 05:42 |
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| Jucato | so will kmail.. and prinkint... | 05:43 |
| Jucato | printingU | 05:43 |
| Jucato | bah can't tipe | 05:43 |
| Jucato | type**!@*!@#@# | 05:43 |
| === Hobbsee waves | ||
| === Tm_T drowns | ||
| Jucato | that's my line! | 05:44 |
| Jucato | hmph | 05:44 |
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| Tm_T | nixternal: no, porting has been going on, BUT there's lot of things we have to drop off because of "new" schedule | 05:45 |
| Tm_T | even our roadmap is still claiming we're aiming to 4.1 | 05:46 |
| Tm_T | whoopsie | 05:46 |
| === ScottK is still waiting for nixternal's pinentry-qr4 port .... | ||
| DaSkreech | Mailody? | 05:49 |
| DaSkreech | Hi Hobbsee | 05:49 |
| DaSkreech | the picross thing | 05:53 |
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| imbrandon | Jucato: got a sec ? | 06:36 |
| Jucato | imbrandon: a few, yeah :) | 06:37 |
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| nixternal | http://www.nixternal.com/tmp/kde4_20071006.pdf | 07:23 |
| nixternal | check that out and let me know how it reads | 07:23 |
| === nixternal beds - k'nite :) | ||
| Tm_T | nixternal: " is missing from end of page 5 | 08:04 |
| Tm_T | nixternal: page 6: shouldnt it be "Monopoly-Free" | 08:05 |
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| coreymon77 | well | 09:36 |
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| coreymon77 | for some reason im still awake at 3;30 in the morning | 09:36 |
| coreymon77 | and on irc for that matter | 09:37 |
| coreymon77 | i really dont know why | 09:37 |
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| blekos | hello, everytime i boot and login to my session there is a popup indow "Information-kdeSudo" No command arguments supplied | 09:44 |
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| fdoving | blekos: somehow 'kdesudo' is executed at login without any arguments. | 11:16 |
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| nixternal | Tm_T: good catch on the missing " and - :) | 01:53 |
| === Jucato waves to nixternal | ||
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| === nixternal waves back | ||
| nixternal | nothing like waking up at 06:30 | 01:56 |
| stdin | heh, I woke up at 10:00am :) | 01:56 |
| === LongPointyStick woke up much later. | ||
| === Jucato wished he didn't wake up so early | ||
| nixternal | who wants to give my KDE 4 talk today? I am to tired :) | 01:58 |
| stdin | it's easy "KDE4: Umm, it's broke right now. But it will rocK!!" | 01:58 |
| Jucato | start with KDE 4.0 != KDE 4 | 01:58 |
| Jucato | yay!! mailing list thread about people who don't know the diff between your and you're! | 01:59 |
| stdin | yeah, I saw that too :p | 01:59 |
| stdin | I'm guessing it's going to be one of those threads that never dies | 02:00 |
| nixternal | oh fun | 02:00 |
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| === nixternal needs a Starbucks Pumpkin Spice Latte and a Pumpkin Scone | ||
| Hobbsee | oh, fuck. | 02:02 |
| Jucato | O.o | 02:02 |
| Hobbsee | waaaaah! | 02:02 |
| nixternal | ya, it is that good, makes me say the same thing :) | 02:02 |
| Hobbsee | no, that was unrelated :P | 02:02 |
| nixternal | lol | 02:02 |
| Hobbsee | now what am i going to do? | 02:02 |
| nixternal | dance until your feet hurt! | 02:02 |
| Hobbsee | no | 02:03 |
| Hobbsee | it's mum's birthday tomorrow. | 02:03 |
| nixternal | oh shiiiiite | 02:03 |
| Jucato | oh kraaaaap | 02:03 |
| nixternal | birthday's are easy.... | 02:03 |
| Jucato | no gift yet? | 02:03 |
| Hobbsee | nope | 02:04 |
| nixternal | Hobbsee: make a card! I like when someone makes me a card over just buying one | 02:04 |
| nixternal | plus it saves you money :) | 02:04 |
| stdin | make a card and take her out to dinner | 02:04 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: well, i put all the money away tonight, so i'm too late to do the other anyway :P | 02:04 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: correct. | 02:04 |
| nixternal | hehe | 02:04 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: i didnt realise it was already this far in october | 02:04 |
| Jucato | :( | 02:04 |
| nixternal | hahaha, Hobbsee, October just started :) | 02:04 |
| Jucato | make here a slideshow w/ music and lots of mushy sentimental text :) | 02:04 |
| Hobbsee | yes, and tomorrow's the 7th. | 02:05 |
| nixternal | my daughter and x's birthday are next friday, but I already got their gifts :) | 02:05 |
| === Hobbsee was going to be organised, too. | ||
| nixternal | Hobbsee: does mom work? | 02:05 |
| Hobbsee | no | 02:05 |
| nixternal | like will she be home when you wake up? | 02:05 |
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| nixternal | oh shit, ya, you are screwed, unless you can get up earlier than her and get out and get a gift | 02:05 |
| Hobbsee | that depends on when i wake up :P | 02:06 |
| nixternal | stay up then :) | 02:06 |
| Hobbsee | not that crazy, usually | 02:06 |
| nixternal | it isn't like that is something new to you :p | 02:06 |
| Hobbsee | staying up all nigth is | 02:07 |
| Hobbsee | i've only done it a couple of times | 02:07 |
| Hobbsee | like, and going 24+ hours without sleeping | 02:07 |
| Hobbsee | gone to bed at 6am a couple of times | 02:07 |
| nixternal | it is only 10pm there, crash now and get up early | 02:08 |
| === Hobbsee is eating *dinner* | ||
| === Jucato just finished eating Hobbsee | ||
| Jucato | er.. I meant dinner | 02:09 |
| Hobbsee | uh... | 02:09 |
| === Hobbsee checks. 2 arms, 2 legs, one head. i seem all here! | ||
| Jucato | how many pointy sticks left? :) | 02:09 |
| Hobbsee | 23 | 02:09 |
| nixternal | hahaha | 02:09 |
| Jucato | lol | 02:10 |
| Jucato | anyone want to be daring and test a basket-kontact integration bug? warning, you might never be able to get basket back into kontact :) | 02:10 |
| Hobbsee | good - i dont want to have to keep kontact, just to have basket :P | 02:11 |
| Jucato | lol | 02:11 |
| Jucato | well last night, I ran basket outside of kontact. this morning, when I ran kontact, basket's gone from the components. everywhere. even if kontactrc says it's enabled | 02:12 |
| Hobbsee | woudlnt surprise me, we probably have to rebuild basket. | 02:13 |
| Jucato | yikes? | 02:13 |
| === Jucato wonders if a --reinstall would be needed.. | ||
| Hobbsee | wont help | 02:14 |
| Hobbsee | oh wait, might help | 02:14 |
| Hobbsee | give it a shot, anyway | 02:14 |
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| Hobbsee | but i doubt it | 02:16 |
| Hobbsee | (and grrr, why does ctrl+q close konvi?) | 02:16 |
| Jucato | hahah | 02:16 |
| Jucato | welcome to my error last week :) | 02:16 |
| Jucato | but it should ask you if you want to close konvi iirc | 02:17 |
| === Jucato checks | ||
| Jucato | yep it should | 02:17 |
| Hobbsee | ah yes, which i disabled | 02:17 |
| Jucato | :P | 02:17 |
| Hobbsee | because when i tell it to exit, i actually want it to exit. | 02:17 |
| Hobbsee | via the alt+f4 method. | 02:18 |
| Jucato | :) | 02:18 |
| Hobbsee | reinstalling didnt help, i take it? | 02:21 |
| Jucato | still installing :) | 02:22 |
| Hobbsee | ahh | 02:22 |
| Jucato | starting kontact | 02:22 |
| Jucato | nope didn't work.. | 02:22 |
| Jucato | let me see if removing *rc files work | 02:22 |
| Jucato | nada | 02:23 |
| === Hobbsee throws it at the archive. | ||
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| Hobbsee | hiya jpatrick | 02:28 |
| Jucato | hiya jpatrick! how's katapult coming along? | 02:28 |
| jpatrick | hi Hobbsee | 02:28 |
| jpatrick | Jucato: converted to CMake, one bug busted | 02:28 |
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| Jucato | this is from the main katapult right? | 02:28 |
| jpatrick | it's not yet commited to the dev branch tho | 02:29 |
| Jucato | I was just wondering about katapult fast track... | 02:29 |
| jpatrick | I took most of the cmake from that :) | 02:29 |
| Jucato | hahah | 02:30 |
| Jucato | how about the features? and fixes? | 02:30 |
| Jucato | he claims to have fixed a lot of stuff in katapult | 02:30 |
| Jucato | (the dev put that in his "resum" for applying to be a basket dev) | 02:30 |
| jpatrick | I'll look into later, there's still a problem with the doc bug.. | 02:31 |
| Jucato | ok | 02:31 |
| Jucato | I was able to build katapult fast track, but not run it.. probably because I didn't install in system dirs.. | 02:31 |
| Jucato | anyway.. brb.. | 02:31 |
| Jucato | good luck with that jpatrick!! :) | 02:31 |
| jpatrick | thanks :) | 02:32 |
| Jucato | I have somewhat lost interest in katapult because of the sort of stagnation... I still use it though | 02:32 |
| Jucato | not as addicted or dependent on it anymore as before though | 02:32 |
| Hobbsee | yay, katapult. | 02:35 |
| Jucato | then it has to be ported to Qt4/KDE4 | 02:35 |
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| jpatrick | allee: guten tag | 02:37 |
| jpatrick | Jucato: yeah :| | 02:37 |
| Hobbsee | guten tag allee, wie gehts? | 02:37 |
| Jucato | btw... toma is/was a member of the council right? | 02:38 |
| allee | jpatrick: long time not seen :) | 02:38 |
| === allee wonders if this in #kubuntu-de | ||
| nixternal | haha | 02:38 |
| nixternal | Jucato: yes | 02:38 |
| allee | aber was soll's. Mir geht gut. Kinder alle aus den Haus. Seltsam diese Ruhe | 02:38 |
| Hobbsee | allee: i dont think so - but the development channels do sometimes switch to german. | 02:38 |
| jpatrick | german rocks | 02:38 |
| Hobbsee | it does. i wish i spoke it better | 02:38 |
| Jucato | ok. just wondering why he's blog wasn't on planet ubuntu... but now he's moving to mandriva anyway :( | 02:38 |
| allee | hehe. At least the women in soccer :) | 02:39 |
| mhb | Jucato: toma's moving to mandriva? Nice. | 02:39 |
| Jucato | O.o | 02:39 |
| Jucato | not exactly the reaction I expected... but.. oh well | 02:40 |
| Jucato | http://www.omat.nl/drupal/trying-mandriva | 02:40 |
| mhb | Jucato: well it could have been worse, switch to Windows or something. | 02:40 |
| allee | ah, is there a story about toma I missed since my 2 days absense | 02:40 |
| Jucato | ah no. moving to mandriva because of kubuntu.. | 02:40 |
| Jucato | so it's still bad | 02:40 |
| Hobbsee | allee: what does aber was soll's. mean? | 02:41 |
| Jucato | oh well... time to get unbusy... | 02:41 |
| mhb | Jucato: if it makes him happy | 02:42 |
| mhb | Jucato: :o) | 02:42 |
| mhb | Jucato: I actually love all kinds of competition, it makes software better | 02:42 |
| nixternal | Jucato: is he moving, or just trying? I thought I ready he was just trying it I thought | 02:42 |
| Jucato | "So, for now I'm a happy Mandriva user (sorry Planet Kubuntu readers)." | 02:42 |
| jpatrick | Hobbsee: I think it's "but what shall it" :> | 02:43 |
| Jucato | anyway | 02:43 |
| nixternal | hrmm, and he isn't hanging out in here...that sucks | 02:43 |
| Jucato | mhb: I'm not against competition. but a loss is a loss | 02:43 |
| Hobbsee | jpatrick: ah right | 02:43 |
| Jucato | he'll be back >:) | 02:43 |
| nixternal | we need to figure out a way to draw in some more developers | 02:44 |
| mhb | I think we should work on artwork more in Hardy. OpenSUSE is really praised for "beautiful artwork", and all we changed is a wallpaper | 02:44 |
| nixternal | the one good thing about LTS coming up, is we get to concentrate on what is already there more and bugs | 02:44 |
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| mhb | the new o-s 10.3, I mean (reading the dot and such). | 02:45 |
| nixternal | openSUSE praised for artwork? that is the only thing besides RPM and KBFX that I do not like about openSUSE | 02:45 |
| nixternal | all openSUSE has done with 10.3 was add transparency to the kicker, and updated their green background from what I could see so far | 02:46 |
| nixternal | and I must say, their netinstall iso is pretty good now | 02:46 |
| bddebian | Heya | 02:46 |
| nixternal | boo | 02:46 |
| bddebian | :-) | 02:46 |
| mhb | nixternal: their wallpaper is a bit nicer than ours, in my humble opinion (colours aside) | 02:47 |
| Hobbsee | their wm settings all look the same, from each release | 02:47 |
| Hobbsee | reminds me of XP | 02:47 |
| allee | toma is in #mailody | 02:48 |
| nixternal | Hobbsee: look at PCLinuxOS if you want to see Windows XP | 02:49 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, well. | 02:49 |
| allee | Hobbsee: mhmm. No idea how to translate 'was soll's'. Maybe who cares, I do it nevertheless (it = write in german) | 02:50 |
| allee | s/nevertheless// | 02:50 |
| mhb | something like "how are you? how should I be?" although you may not get it in english | 02:51 |
| nixternal | but ya, openSUSE has probably done less theme/color changes than we have | 02:51 |
| Hobbsee | allee: :) | 02:51 |
| nixternal | plus...who really keeps their default wallpaper in the first place? | 02:51 |
| Hobbsee | i saw a whole lot at UDS who had | 02:52 |
| Hobbsee | mind you, it was the gnome one | 02:52 |
| mhb | Riddell: did you manage to fix the "guidance items in systemsettings are not translated" you had in your TODO? | 02:52 |
| === nixternal leaves the Gnome jokes alone | ||
| mhb | also, did we manage to insert the Dolphin translation into Gutsy? | 02:58 |
| mhb | I have a fairly recent system and Dolphin is in English completely | 02:58 |
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| Hobbsee | Riddell: who's doing packages for gutsy, etc, of kde? | 04:58 |
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| ScottK | Apt seems to think I want strigi-daemon reinstalled today. Any suggestions on what I have to remove to get it to actually go away and not come back? | 06:16 |
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| stdin | ScottK: kubuntu-desktop depends on strigi-daemon | 06:34 |
| ScottK | stdin: Depends or recommends? | 06:34 |
| ScottK | It was recommends. | 06:34 |
| stdin | recommends yeah | 06:35 |
| ScottK | Which is why I'm suprised I got it back. | 06:35 |
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| stdin | hmm, shouldn't "kfmclient openProfile filemanagement" or "kfmclient openURL ..." start dolphin not konqueror now? | 07:04 |
| Tm_T | nixternal: havent read further yet on it, so, who knows there's more :p | 07:13 |
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| yuriy | stdin: kfmclient exec does and that's the only one i would really expect to | 07:29 |
| stdin | yuriy: well if dolphin is going to be the default filemanager, then the others should | 07:30 |
| yuriy | stdin: dolphin can't open web url's so openURL wouldn't make sense, and it doesn't have profiles so openProfile wouldn't make sense | 07:32 |
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| stdin | hmm | 07:32 |
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| Creationist | Could someone help me track down why Amarok will no longer start in Gutsy? | 07:59 |
| nixternal | Creationist: I can't, but where at in Michigan are you from? | 08:00 |
| ScottK | Creationist: I can't get it to start either. Did you file a bug? | 08:02 |
| Creationist | nixternal: Grand Rapids area | 08:03 |
| Creationist | ScottK: I haven't yet... figured I wanted to make sure it was a bug first. | 08:03 |
| Creationist | But it obviously is. | 08:03 |
| ScottK | Creationist: Please file a bug and then give me the bug number. I'll confirm it. | 08:04 |
| ScottK | Creationist: When you file the bug, please start amarok from a Konsole shell and copy/paste the output from there in the bug. | 08:04 |
| ScottK | I want to make sure we're having the same problem. | 08:05 |
| emonkey | hmm here it starts... with some warnings but it does | 08:07 |
| emonkey | I'll try it on my other computers later too | 08:07 |
| Creationist | ScottK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/149936 | 08:13 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 149936 in amarok "Amarok will not start in Kubuntu Gutsy" [Undecided,New] | 08:13 |
| === ScottK looks | ||
| ScottK | Different issue than I had. | 08:14 |
| ScottK | But since the bug is "Won't Start" I can confirm that. | 08:15 |
| ScottK | Creationist: I take it back. It does start for me now. | 08:17 |
| ScottK | Was that the only thing the consolse said? | 08:17 |
| Creationist | ScottK: See, that's part of my issue too.... every now and then it will just work. | 08:17 |
| Creationist | And yes, that's all it ever said. | 08:17 |
| ScottK | When you start it, what do you type in the Konsole window? | 08:18 |
| Creationist | amarok | 08:18 |
| Creationist | As a side not, I would expect such a vague "error" message from Windows, not Linux. | 08:19 |
| Creationist | note* | 08:19 |
| ScottK | It's not from Linux, it's from Amarok. | 08:19 |
| Creationist | ScottK: Which is a Linux project.... I simply meant in general... from the Linux community. | 08:20 |
| ScottK | Try running top in another console window and see if there is evidence of some other process hanging. | 08:20 |
| ScottK | Creationist: Linux has it's share of crap coders too. | 08:20 |
| ScottK | Not to mention crap triagers <-- Me (amarok started for me the first time too, just failed to notice it). | 08:21 |
| Creationist | ScottK: There aren't any hung applications that I can tell... but according to top, amarok is usiing quite a bit of my resources | 08:21 |
| ScottK | Creationist: What happens if you type amarokapp instead of amarok? | 08:22 |
| Creationist | ScottK: Absolutely nothing... just sits there issuing no output. | 08:23 |
| ScottK | Does anythin amarok related show up in ps -AF? | 08:24 |
| Creationist | ScottK: Amarokapp shows up | 08:24 |
| ScottK | OK. Sounds like it's time to learn about valgrind and find out what's hanging. | 08:25 |
| ScottK | NOTE: I'm not the guy to ask for valgrind help. | 08:25 |
| Creationist | amarokapp actually shows up twice | 08:25 |
| ScottK | Creationist: Kill them both (sudo kill pidnumber) and try again. | 08:25 |
| Creationist | hehe, And I've never even heard of valgrind except when starting amarok from a konsole it will sometimes say NEVER to run valgrind against amarok ;) | 08:25 |
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| ScottK | The documentation for valgrind doesn't completely suck. I was able to do what I needed from the docs the one time I've needed it. | 08:26 |
| Creationist | ScottK: I got some output this time and added it to the bug report | 08:29 |
| ScottK | OK | 08:29 |
| ScottK | That's pretty normal. | 08:31 |
| ScottK | Creationist: Back to valgrind. | 08:31 |
| Creationist | alright, I'll try that later... I have to get ready for work. | 08:32 |
| Creationist | Thanks for you help. | 08:32 |
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| _StefanS_ | evening | 09:01 |
| nosrednaekim | afternoon;) | 09:01 |
| jpatrick | evening | 09:02 |
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| DaSkreech | Who's in charge of kdesudo ? | 09:47 |
| stdin | Maintainer: Anthony Mercatante <tonio@ubuntu.com> | 09:49 |
| DaSkreech | Right | 09:49 |
| DaSkreech | Or rather I could just ask :-P | 09:55 |
| DaSkreech | is kdesudo kept active the entire time that a sudoed app is running? | 09:55 |
| stdin | looks like it | 09:55 |
| DaSkreech | That's not cool at all | 09:55 |
| stdin | unless the app you called forks off into another process | 09:55 |
| stdin | why not cool? | 09:55 |
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| DaSkreech | cause people kdesu two things in my experience | 09:55 |
| DaSkreech | Adept and kate | 09:55 |
| DaSkreech | kate esp can be kept open for long periods of time while troubleshooting | 09:55 |
| DaSkreech | worse if they kdesu konqueror to do some GUi level admin. The entire time that's open it leaves them unerable | 09:55 |
| jpatrick | I think it comes down to common sense | 09:55 |
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| DaSkreech | Why should it be common sense that if you run a command it gives all subsequent commands root capabilties as long as that one is open? | 09:55 |
| stdin | what? "kdesudo xterm" gives all command in there root?!? ;) | 09:59 |
| === nosrednaekim likes "sudo bash" | ||
| === stdin likes "sudo -i", less typing | ||
| DaSkreech | praise be for sudo -i :) | 10:01 |
| Tm_T | I just use root shell session in Konsole | 10:01 |
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| jpatrick | I prefer sudo -s | 10:01 |
| ffixxx | hi is there an easy way to enable compiz(-fusion) in kubuntu? | 10:01 |
| stdin | I wonder what would happen if I set my login shell to "sudo -i" :p | 10:01 |
| nosrednaekim | Tm_T: sooo old fashioned | 10:01 |
| nosrednaekim | ffixxx: support in #kubuntu | 10:02 |
| Tm_T | nosrednaekim: I know | 10:02 |
| ffixxx | i am using gutsy | 10:02 |
| Tm_T | ffixxx: then #ubuntu+1 | 10:02 |
| nosrednaekim | Tm_T: and nowhere near as l33t | 10:02 |
| Tm_T | ffixxx: also #ubuntu-effects for compiz and related | 10:02 |
| nosrednaekim | ffixxx: or #ubuntu-effects | 10:02 |
| nosrednaekim | :) | 10:02 |
| ffixxx | okay | 10:03 |
| ffixxx | btw my fonts look blurry since upgrading... | 10:04 |
| nosrednaekim | ffixxx: what graphics card do you have? | 10:05 |
| ffixxx | nvidia | 10:06 |
| ffixxx | 6600gt | 10:06 |
| nosrednaekim | whoops... wrong channel :) | 10:06 |
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| jjesse | hello | 11:03 |
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| jjesse | hmm | 11:10 |
| fdoving | hi. | 11:11 |
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| jjesse | hi fdoving | 11:17 |
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| fdoving | hi jjesse. tried opensuse? | 11:26 |
| === fdoving is installing 10.3 in a virtual machine. | ||
| jjesse | fdoving: i tried it once, was just reading james ots entry on the first look, downloading it now | 11:26 |
| jjesse | i got a new dell laptop that i am switching over to this weekend | 11:27 |
| jjesse | 4 gigs of ram finally | 11:27 |
| fdoving | yay :) | 11:28 |
| fdoving | which dell? | 11:28 |
| jjesse | d820 | 11:28 |
| fdoving | nice. i have a d620 | 11:28 |
| jjesse | the current d820 that i have only supports 3.2 gigs of RAM | 11:28 |
| jjesse | bios limitiation or something | 11:28 |
| jjesse | so dell shipped me a new one that supports the full 4 gigs | 11:28 |
| fdoving | yeah, probably the stupid memory-hole-issue many bioses suffer from. | 11:29 |
| jjesse | dell support kept telling me that it was a limitation of my 32-bit OS | 11:29 |
| jjesse | they didn't understand the bios was reporting only 3.2 was available | 11:29 |
| jjesse | now i just gotta figure out how to switch everything over so i don't loose too much :( | 11:30 |
| fdoving | rsync :) | 11:30 |
| jjesse | rsync between my two laptops? | 11:32 |
| jjesse | wow the download from the opensuse mirror is faster then the download from relaese.ubuntu.com | 11:33 |
| fdoving | i usually make a nfsserver on one side, then rsync folders over from one machine to the other. with two 1GBit ethernet interfaces an a cable that can be pretty fast. | 11:35 |
| jjesse | interseting | 11:35 |
| jjesse | before i've used my external usb drives | 11:36 |
| fdoving | that is also an option. | 11:36 |
| jjesse | whats the best way to get all my emails in kmail out? | 11:38 |
| fdoving | i usually copy ~/.kde to get all kde settings. | 11:38 |
| jjesse | the last time i got that, i got a lot of blank emails when i copied the folder back in | 11:39 |
| fdoving | but copying ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail will get your mail i guess. | 11:39 |
| fdoving | oh. | 11:39 |
| jjesse | i don't see an "export" in kontact | 11:40 |
| fdoving | i use IMAP and store everything on the server, so it's not something i think about much, but that sounds weird. | 11:40 |
| jjesse | kontact version 1.2.4 (enterprise) | 11:40 |
| jjesse | oh well i;'ll figure it out after dinner | 11:42 |
| jjesse | wife is waiting to go out | 11:42 |
| fdoving | http://kontact.kde.org/kmail/tools.php | 11:43 |
| fdoving | might be interessting for you. | 11:43 |
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