addykubuntu__ installing? :)12:39
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x_linkHi all Kubuntu-users =)12:41
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addykHey x_link12:43
nosrednaekimhello x_link12:43
addykAnyway... ready to test... BRB12:43
x_linkDoes anybody here use Gutsy?12:43
x_linkDoes anybody here use Gutsy right now?12:43
x_linkSorry, typo.12:43
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FSHerog2g... restarting time!12:44
FSHerothanks everyone for the help :D12:44
x_linkSo nobody is using Gutsy? =(12:44
nosrednaekimx_link: yeah... I do12:45
x_linkAhh nice =)12:45
x_linkI need help with something.12:45
nosrednaekimx_link: gutsy support is in #ubuntu+1, i'm over there too12:45
x_linkOkej, sorry!12:45
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addykThanks nosrednaekim it's now working fine :)12:47
flohey leute ich muss mal meine grube aufrumen wie mach ich das? da sind tausenden ubuntu winodws kernel drinne12:47
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nosrednaekimaddyk: great :)12:47
addykflo that's german right?12:47
melodyHello.  I need help on upgrading a package12:48
flomi scusi12:48
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addykmelody:  what package?12:49
addykflo no matter :D hello! :D (I only know english and romanian) :)12:49
nosrednaekimmelody: ok... which one?12:49
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addykMeh, anyway, I have to go now :) see you later #kubuntu :)12:50
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nosrednaekimbye addyk12:51
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melodywell.  My restricted drivers aren't working since my update.   It is linux-restricted-modules-     I cannot use my wifi intel pro card on my laptop anymore. and when I try to get adept to upgrade that package it just says "break" and fails.12:51
kinkajouhey guys i need some help, i need to enable direct rendering on my ati radeon 9800. ive tried many tuts and i cant get any to work.... plz help <312:51
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quixogrehello all :)12:52
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kinkajouanyone = /12:52
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nosrednaekimkinkajou: yup... whats the problem12:53
quixogrekinkajou: missed the question. whats up?12:53
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melodyof course, it doesn't say WHY that package 'breaks'...just some generic conflict message12:53
kinkajou i need some help, i need to enable direct rendering on my ati radeon 9800. ive tried many tuts and i cant get any to work.... plz help <312:53
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:53
nosrednaekimmelody: try intslling it from the command line12:53
kinkajouwell i have the ati driver installed12:53
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nosrednaekimkinkajou: at what point do you have problems?12:54
kinkajouwell i need it enabled to run windows games in wine, but idk i cant get it working12:54
kinkajouiam a complete noob heh12:54
quixogrekinkajou: sounds like you need directX to work in wine...good luck with that12:55
kinkajouno i read you didnt12:55
nosrednaekimkinkajou: what does "glxinfo | grep direct rendering" say?12:55
quixogrekinkajou: directx and wine dont mix very well12:55
nosrednaekimkinkajou: don't worry, lets just get this set up first12:55
nosrednaekimyou can do directx in wine12:55
kinkajouname of display: :0.012:56
kinkajouXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".12:56
kinkajoudisplay: :0  screen: 012:56
kinkajoudirect rendering: No12:56
kinkajouserver glx vendor string: SGI12:56
kinkajouserver glx version string: 1.212:56
kinkajouserver glx extensions:12:56
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)12:56
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nosrednaekimkinkajou: ok, pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:56
kinkajouhow? XD12:56
nosrednaekimyou can read it with the command "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf"12:57
kinkajouk did that12:57
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nosrednaekimkinkajou: pastebin it12:57
NickPrestakinkajou, do we know each other?12:58
NickPrestawould you happen to know of YMAT?12:58
kinkajouhow do i pastebin?12:58
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)12:58
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Ahmucki'm looking for linux sound board softare12:59
kinkajou!pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:59
BluesKajkinkajou, you should try the ATI new experimental driver 8.41.7...it works very well on my X200G , but you have to choose the HD2900 on the driver page12:59
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melodyso, if I wanted to try to install from the command line, linux-restricted-modules- what would be the package I'd try to get?   I tried "apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-" but it gave me some smack about not being available01:00
nosrednaekimkinkajou: no... go to that page and paste it THERE.01:00
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: thats getting a bit more complicated..01:00
quixogremelody: running kde?01:00
BluesKajyes nosrednaekim , but he's been trying for days and nothing is working for him01:01
melodykubuntu 7.1001:01
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quixogremelody ALT+F2 type in adept_manager01:01
nosrednaekimkinkajou: it could be a somple problem that I know of in his Xorg.01:01
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ctothejhow can i stop a driver/module from loading on startup?01:01
kinkajouk i copied it now what? XD01:01
melodyI'm in adept_manager01:01
ctotheji put it in the blacklist file in /etc/modprobe.d, but it still loads01:02
nosrednaekimctothej: put it in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist01:02
Dracarican anyone help me with Wireless configuring w/ Kubuntu (PC vers)01:02
nosrednaekimctothej: did you say "blacklist <driver name>"?01:02
quixogremelody: type restricted in the search window01:02
BluesKajctothej, open auto-start and edit the file with permission01:02
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nosrednaekimDracari: sure.01:02
ctothejnosrednaekim: the entry i put in: "blacklist sky2"01:03
kinkajouthere? right? lol01:03
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ctothejBluesKaj: open auto-start?01:03
Dracarii have a Linksys "Instant Wireless" PCI card Model # WMP11 V2.701:03
melodyquixogre: I see listed "linux-restricted-modules-generic"01:03
quixogremelody: installed or no?01:03
Dracariand when i try to enable it it just gets disabled 2 seconds later01:04
melodynot installed01:04
nosrednaekimDracari: it works for those 2 minutes though?01:04
quixogremelody change to installed, then aply changes01:04
nosrednaekimctothej: humm.01:04
Dracariit was able to detect the card01:04
melodyquixogre: "break (install)"01:04
Dracari(just 30 mins ago finished installing kubuntu01:05
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BluesKajctothej, alt+F2 ,kdesu konqueror /usr/share/autostart01:05
ctothejnosrednaekim: yeah, not sure why it started. i can "rmmod sky2" without a problem afterwards, but I dont want it to load in the first place.01:05
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kinkajouwho wanted my Xorg?01:05
nosrednaekimctothej: maybe sky2 is the dependency of another module01:05
melodyquixogre: earlier, it was installed but was marked "upgradable".. HOWEVER I couldn't get it to upgrade because it would just come back with "break (install)"01:06
melodyand without this upgrade my wifi card doesn't work01:06
ctothejnosrednaekim: hmm, nothing seems to break when I unload it...01:06
ctothejBluesKaj: /usr/share/autostart folder items get loaded on each boot?01:07
nosrednaekimctothej: yeah. thats odd01:07
ctothejBluesKaj:  for KDE only?01:07
nosrednaekimkinkajou: ah... ok you need to add something to your xorg.conf01:07
BluesKajdunno, ctothej ...don't use gnome01:07
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quixogremelody: sudo apt-get upgrade linux-restricted-modules-generic01:08
melodyso... what do you do when you need to upgrade a package and it just comes back with "break (install)"?01:08
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nosrednaekimkinkajou: open the file with "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and paste this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ at the end of the file, after a blank line01:09
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nosrednaekim!hardware | Dracari look up your car on this page01:10
ubotuDracari look up your car on this page: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport01:10
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nosrednaekimkinkajou: whoops, wrong link01:10
melodyquixogre: well, upgrade did nothing because the package isn't installed currently.,  So I tried with "install" and it reported back "Linux-restricted-modules-generic: Depends: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22.-13-generic but it is not installable.  broken package"01:11
nosrednaekimkinkajou: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39720/01:11
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nosrednaekimmelody: thats gutsy, go to #ubuntu+101:11
kinkajouadd to the very end?01:11
nosrednaekimmelody: where someone ust reported the same bug.... talk to usser.01:12
nosrednaekimkinkajou: yeah01:12
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kinkajouk, then just save/close?01:12
nosrednaekimkinkajou: yeah01:12
nosrednaekimkinkajou: and restart x01:12
nosrednaekimkinkajou: and I have to go... tlak to BluesKaj if you have any problems01:13
kinkajouk ty01:13
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gottaloveicecreahey guys01:15
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Dracaribe4 u go01:15
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Dracariits getting seen as a broadcom bcm430301:16
ereslibrehow can i set the default compiler on my kubuntu system to icecc ?01:16
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ereslibreupdate-alternatives says that there is no alternative for c++ or g++01:16
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x_linkBack again.01:16
x_linkDoooh, now I forgot the nick of the person who just helped me =/01:16
markgreeneHey guys. How do I reset all my sound settings to the default? WHat should I re-install01:17
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x_linkWho was just helping me?01:17
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purpleposeidonx_link: Don't worry. If you can remember who it was, it means you've been spending too much time on IRC.01:17
x_linkpurpleposeidon: He was helping me for like 3 minutes ago.01:17
x_linkJust don't remember the nick.01:17
purpleposeidonAh, then that would be something....01:17
x_linkpurpleposeidon: Can you please scroll up a bit and see who it was?01:18
x_linkJust like 3-5 minutes bac.01:18
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x_linkI would appreciate it alot.01:18
purpleposeidon[15:49]  <nosrednaekim> x_link: gutsy support is in #ubuntu+1, i'm over there too01:19
x_linkI have a small problem right now.01:19
x_linkahh yes.01:19
x_linkBaah, he went offline =/01:19
x_linkWell well01:19
x_linkI have a small problem.01:19
x_linkpurpleposeidon: maybe you can help me =)01:19
x_linkBefore in kControl I could go to Input Actions --> Konsole --> and I choosed that Alt+k would open konsole.01:20
quixogrereal quick. whats dhp stand for? dynamic host carrier protocol right?01:20
x_linkBut it doesn't work anymore.01:20
purpleposeidonkonversation keeps logs in ~/.kde/share/apps/konversation; if that's what you're using01:20
x_linkIt worked earlier today.01:20
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purpleposeidonI think you can set shortcuts in menu editor01:20
BluesKajx_link, whynot just put the konsole in the panel01:20
x_linkkControl --> Regional & Accessibility --> Input Actions. That's empty for me now. I don't see the settings that was there before.01:21
x_linkBluesKaj: Cause I want it like this.01:21
x_linkSo I don't need to grab my mouse everytime I want to open it.01:21
x_linkIt may sound a bit silly, but I still want it like that =)01:21
purpleposeidonI'd do logokey-k, myself.01:21
BluesKajer, what's uncomfortable about one click ?01:21
x_linkCould somebody please help me with this?01:22
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x_linkBluesKaj: I just want it like this.01:22
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purpleposeidonx_link: It's not silly, it's efficient. Most everything needs the keyboard.01:22
BluesKajsorry , someone else might humour you , but I won't :)01:22
hitmanWillyok, what did i come in on here?01:23
BluesKajBBL...chores to do01:23
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x_linkpurpleposeidon: Yeah I know.01:23
x_linkpurpleposeidon: But I don't know how to fix that now =/01:23
purpleposeidonx_link: right click on Kmenu > Menu Editor > Find the Konsole program (under System?) > Shortcut key01:23
x_linkCause Input Actions doesn't look the same now.01:23
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x_linkpurpleposeidon: Hurmm?01:24
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x_linkpurpleposeidon: I don't want the konsole-icon on my desktop.01:25
x_linkI already have that.01:25
purpleposeidonDon't worry, since I didn't just tell you to do that.01:25
x_linkI don't have Menu Editor.01:25
x_linkpurpleposeidon: hehe okej, sorry.01:25
hitmanWillyheh, my konsole, err, eterm in my case, is set to win-space01:25
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x_linkhitmanWilly: Do you use Gutusy?01:26
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purpleposeidonWell, I don't know what changes they made in gutsy, so....01:26
x_linkpurpleposeidon: I don't have menu editor =/01:26
hitmanWillyx_link: yes, on my buntu box anyway01:26
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x_linkhitmanWilly: Kubuntu or Ubuntu?01:27
x_linkopps. forgot this is the Kubuntu channel. lol01:27
x_linkhitmanWilly: How do you do that?01:28
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x_linkI did that in Feisty and it worked very well.01:28
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x_linkBut I don't see the same settings in with Gutsy.01:28
hitmanWillyshould work more or less the same on gutsy01:28
x_linkpurpleposeidon: Can you just explain one more time?01:28
x_linkCause I don't see Menu Editor.01:28
x_linkhitmanWilly: I will show you a screenshot.01:28
purpleposeidonright clicking on the K of happiness should give you a link to Mr. Menu Editor.01:29
hitmanWillyhmm...just saved my settings when i migrated over01:29
x_linkpurpleposeidon: Okej, thanks.01:29
purpleposeidonActually, just run kmenuedit01:30
x_linkpurpleposeidon: Ohhh. now I found it.01:30
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x_linkpurpleposeidon: You have to excuse me. My english isn't that good. So sometimes it gets a bit hard for me to understand.01:30
hitmanWillyand here we see the achilles heel of the gui interface :)01:30
hitmanWillyand yes im aware that was redundant01:31
x_linkYEEEEES! =)01:31
x_linkpurpleposeidon: THANKS ALOT!01:31
x_linkNow Alt+k works again =)01:31
x_linkDamn nice =)01:31
x_linkpurpleposeidon: Man, thanks ALOT. I really appreciate it alot. Thanks!01:32
purpleposeidon....until next reboot. ;)01:32
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purpleposeidonhitmanWilly: do you mean the RUN COMMAND?01:32
x_linkNow I must get something to get.01:32
x_linkThat was totaly wrong.01:32
purpleposeidonbetter get going on that01:32
usseryea get to work01:33
x_linkNow I must get something to eat =)01:33
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hitmanWillypurpleposeidon: ?01:33
SorryCan someone help me?01:33
pillowpantshow do you enable glx01:33
SorryI'm trying to join #ubuntu01:33
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purpleposeidonScary, I actually read that as "eat" the first time...01:33
pillowpantsi have the drivers for my card working, but openGL isnt working01:33
hitmanWillypillowpants: nvidia or ati?01:33
UbuntuRulesAny idea why I can't join #ubuntu ?01:33
pillowpantshitmanWilly : nvidia01:34
usserUbuntuRules: ban?01:34
hitmanWillyUbuntuRules: did you get banned?01:34
hitmanWillypillowpants: ok, in a cmd line run sudo nvidia-xconfig01:34
hitmanWillypillowpants: then restart X01:34
pillowpantshitmanWilly : i need to install it01:35
hitmanWillypillowpants: it should install with the nvidia pkg01:35
pillowpantshitmanWilly : i just installed the drivers, but not glx, i guess thats why01:35
UbuntuRulesIt says my address is banned.01:35
hitmanWillypillowpants: ok, apt -glx then01:36
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pillowpantshitmanWilly : ive got nvidia-glx-legacy installed01:37
pillowpantsand just used the xconfig command01:37
pillowpantsgoing to restart x01:37
hitmanWillypillowpants: k01:37
hitmanWillyUbuntuRules: ok, who did you piss off? :P01:38
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pillowpantshitmanWilly : glxgears still isnt running01:39
hitmanWillypillowpants: ok glxinfo | grep direct01:40
pillowpantshitmanWilly : "Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".01:41
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purpleposeidonUbuntuRules: Do you know if you have a dynamic IP?01:41
luboshow do I avoid accidental reboot by commands " reboot" "shutdown" ?01:41
pillowpantslubos : dont type it?...01:42
ardchoillelubos: Don't type those commands?01:42
hitmanWillypillowpants: ok can you pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf?01:42
pillowpantshitmanWilly : sure01:42
savetheWorldlubos duct tape the users fingers to their palms01:42
lubosgreat help thanks guys...01:42
jzillaWhat's the recomended size for the /boot partiton?01:43
savetheWorldjzilla: 6,  depending on the units being used01:43
savetheWorldjzilla: I always use 100 Mb01:43
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purpleposeidonlubos: append "alias reboot='echo If you really wanted to turn me off, you wanted a reboot, you would type the full path name'" to ~/.bashrc01:43
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savetheWorldpurpleposeidon: nice.01:44
pillowpantshitmanWilly : http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=d2d44765201:44
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pillowpantsjzilla: 75 megs would do it01:44
wiihow do i install the right driver for my nvidea 6200?right now the hardware is using nvidea 680001:44
wiiit dont have 620001:45
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hitmanWillypillowpants: ok, try "sudo modprobe glx"01:46
Mr_Sonomaanyone use k9copy?01:47
lubospurpleposeidon: thanks ...01:47
pillowpantshitmanWilly : module glx not found01:47
purpleposeidonSo easy to help! :D01:47
hitmanWillypillowpants: see if there's a glx pkg, apt-cache search glx01:47
wiipurpleposeidon: so help me then01:47
BluesKajMr_Sonoma, yes , it works well01:47
pillowpantshitmanWilly : nvidia-glx-legacy01:48
pillowpantsbut ive already got it installed01:48
purpleposeidonAh, the problem is, is that isn't easy to help. That's impossible for me to help.01:48
Mr_SonomaBluesKaj: i know, but i just reinstalled the system on the new hard disk, now im getting a dvd burning error (should be making a .iso on the hard disk) is there a package or setting i may have missed in the install...used apt-get install k9copy01:48
hitmanWillywhat vid card is this?01:49
wiipurpleposeidon: can u help me with beryl then?01:49
Mr_Sonomai dont remember having this issue before on the last hard disk01:49
wiihow do i install the right driver for my nvidea 6200?right now the hardware is using nvidea 680001:49
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ardchoillewii: You have an nvidia geforce 6200 video card?01:50
BluesKajhmm, the only thing i can think of is your sources.list , Mr_Sonoma...is it the right version ?01:50
pillowpantshitmanWilly : tnt2 model 6401:51
Mr_Sonomastandard sourcelist medibuntu repo is the only add on (fiesty fawn)01:51
wiiardchoille: yes01:51
hitmanWillypillowpants: wow, ok, i don't know if 3d accel is even supported on that01:51
ardchoillewii: Did you already install nvidia drivers?01:51
Mr_Sonomajust as installed off the live cd (only i selected ubuntu main server instead of the us server under the manage repos tab)01:51
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pillowpantshitmanWilly : it is01:51
purpleposeidonwii: That's medium. I don't do medium. Only easy.01:52
wiiardchoille: nope nada in hardware i saw as defaul nv for nvidea01:52
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hitmanWillypillowpants: i mean the newer opengl might not work with it01:52
BluesKajMr_Sonoma, make sure you have "mkisofs" installed01:52
pillowpantshitmanWilly : i can run tremulous, quake 3, and a few other things on this sturdy card01:52
ardchoillewii: ok, I have that exact card and can tell you how I got the drivers running01:52
pillowpantshitmanWilly : works in windows at least01:52
Mr_Sonomalet me see dont think i have that package01:52
wiipurpleposeidon: lol how can i modify my source list?01:52
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wiiardchoille: ok shoot01:53
pillowpantshitmanWilly : ive had it working before, but i reformatted my drive, and i cant remember how i did it01:53
ardchoillewii: Open a terminal and type this to see if the modules are installed:   apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`01:53
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purpleposeidonwii: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list # :P01:54
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Mr_Sonomaok will try it again, thats a good thought i hadnt thought of (knew i had to be missing something simple) thanks BluesKaj01:54
BluesKajMr_Sonoma ..well let's wait til it works :)01:55
wiipurpleposeidon: u crazy01:56
Mr_Sonomaalright, if you'll be around afterwhile i'll letya know how it goes =) (i had killed the process so im just starting over again)01:56
wiiardchoille: they told me unabble to locate package01:56
ardchoillewii: What package?01:57
hitmanWillypillowpants: hmm, well, you've got me dude01:57
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wiiardchoille: linux-restricted-modules-wii-r01:57
ardchoillewii: No, type in the command exactly as I posted it to you01:58
ardchoillewii: apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`01:58
hitmanWillywii, uname isn't your name, its a cmd :)01:58
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wiioh sorry lol :p01:59
wiiardchoille: do i copy everything and paste it in the cosole?01:59
ardchoillewii: yes02:00
wiipurpleposeidon: an easyer way run: kdesu /etc/apt/sources.list02:00
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BluesKajis there a pkg called growisofs or something sismilar?02:00
hitmanWillyand here i was getting ready to tell him the difference betwen ` and '...lol02:01
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purpleposeidonwii: Then you have to wait for a window to pop up. :P02:01
pillowpantshitmanWilly : well thanks for the help02:01
crimsunBluesKaj: in the dvd+rw-tools package02:01
BluesKajthx crimsun02:01
wiipurpleposeidon:  true but sometimes it comes one time02:02
hitmanWillypillowpants: sorry man, never had to try to get opengl running on a card that old02:02
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wiiardchoille:  Installed:
purpleposeidonwii: sometimes the disk might be busy, and it will take nano a couple extra milliseconds to load. And sometimes you're on a VT, or something02:02
BluesKajMr_Sonoma, make sure you have dvd+rw-tools installed too02:03
ardchoillewii: Ok, run this command: "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx". When that's done, run this command:  "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable". Reconfigure xorg with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and restart x and you should be done.02:03
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wiiardchoille: restart x server? o_O i hope it restarts the last time i was install fglrx for my ati when i reach to the end and restart x server all i had was a black screen when i boot up linux :( i had to reinstall everything :(02:06
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ardchoillewii: I gave you the exact directions that I have used on more than 70 machines for nvidia geforce 6200 cards, it should be fine.02:07
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ardchoillewii: and, btw, ati sucks02:07
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nosrednaekimardchoille: its true02:08
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UbuntuRulesI think I pissed off the ops in #ubuntu02:08
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ardchoilleUbuntuRules: That would explain the ban02:08
UbuntuRulesAll I did was post http://pastebin.ca/72738902:09
UbuntuRules(Do NOT cick)02:09
intelikeywhat determines whether an eth card is eth0 eth1 eth2 ...   ?02:09
ardchoilleUbuntuRules: Have you learned from that istake?02:09
wiiardchoille: well for me ati is more compatible whit a lot of stuff then nv.but ati's cards burns up to fast :( i'm on my 3rd ati but it had a problem so the store didnt had anymore in stock they force me to take an nvidea.02:09
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 02:09
nosrednaekimintelikey: i'm not sure, as my first ethx is eth202:09
UbuntuRulesYes I have learned.02:09
ardchoillewii: you're better off with nvidia anyway, IMHO.02:10
wiii still didnt regalate it good for xp the coulour is killing me02:10
intelikeynosrednaekim hmmm mine too02:10
hitmanWillyintelikey: irq address, probably02:10
UbuntuRulesDon't post links to ASCII Goatse disguised as a kernel error.02:10
UbuntuRulesI have learned that.02:10
nosrednaekimintelikey: however, I have two other network devices, wifi0 and ath002:11
intelikeynosrednaekim it's not irQ    10:          0          XT-PIC  eth102:11
intelikey 11:       1886          XT-PIC  Trident Audio, eth2, eth002:11
UbuntuRulesI want #ubuntu02:12
UbuntuRulesTell them to let me join.02:12
ardchoilleUbuntuRules: Whining abou tit in here will not get you unbabbed02:12
BluesKajUbuntuRules, type /join #ubuntu02:12
intelikey/join #ubuntu-ops02:12
ardchoilleand then appologise02:13
dwidmannHumm, anyone know where I went wrong with my grub installation if it's not reading the configfile (I have to manually "configfile /grub/menu.lst") at boot?02:13
intelikeyor just admit wrong and say you are sorry.   no need to appologise they already know what happened02:13
wiiardchoille: when i did sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg a window pop up02:13
hitmanWillydwidmann: try copying menu.lst to grub.conf, see what happens02:14
hitmanWillydwidmann: unless grub.conf already exists02:14
BluesKajdwidmann, make sure the line is uncommented  :)02:14
ardchoillewii: That is supposed to happen. Now you need to answer some questions, choose the nvidia driver and continue02:14
intelikeydwidmann default would be  /boot/grub/menu.lst02:14
wiiardchoille: now it got video geniric card.leave it like that?02:15
dwidmannintelikey: riiiiiiiight, like I would ever have anything "default" :P02:15
ardchoillewii: no, type in:  nvidia GeForce 620002:15
wiiardchoille: sorry Generic Video Card_02:15
dwidmannhitmanWilly: testing your idea now.02:15
intelikeydwidmann well.   good on then mate.02:16
dwidmannhitmanWilly: no go02:16
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BluesKajwii, you have to choose the nvidia card when editing the xorg.conf file02:16
hitmanWillymeh, was a shot in the dark anyways02:16
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nosrednaekimBluesKaj:  did kikoman get his ATI card working?02:17
BluesKajdunno, haven't seen him02:17
BluesKajI was away for 35mins or so02:17
intelikeyanyone know what determines whether an eth card is eth0 eth1 eth2 ...   ?02:17
hitmanWillydwidmann: are all the devices straight?02:17
intelikeyis it the order in which the drivers are loaded ?02:18
wiiardchoille: there this 3rd page telling me about isa:1 pci:0:16:0 ... theres nothing to do on that page?02:18
crimsunintelikey: that's one part, yes, but there's also the ifrename infrastructure.02:18
ardchoillewii: You should be able to leave everything else alone until you come to the vertical and horizontal entries02:19
intelikeyifrename   hmmm    ?02:19
dwidmannhitmanWilly: probably not.02:19
hitmanWillydwidmann: ie are you having to specify what drive it boots off of?02:19
dwidmannnah, I don't have to do the "root (hd0,4) if that's what you mean02:19
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intelikeycrimsun where can i find info on that ?02:19
wiiardchoille: Use kernel framebuffer device interface?  yes or no?02:20
dwidmannwait, I think I fixed it, ... I probably haven't tried to fix things since I was playing around with the partitions in knoppix anyway, oh, and thanks for your time/ideas02:20
ardchoillewii: That's up to you. I do't use it here02:20
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: hmm hope that fixed it.02:20
wiiardchoille: i dont know what they talking about i'm a newbi02:20
intelikeycrimsun oh an app called ifrename ?02:21
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ardchoillewii: Where are you now?02:21
dwidmannhitmanWilly: oh, and what I meant by probably not is that linux isn't picking up my devices "in order" (where in order is the order that they're in on the motherboard, and in  bios)02:21
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: in other news,I just noticed that it seems Xpress 200 now has Direct rednering support in gutsy. without the binary ati drivers02:21
wiiardchoille: Use kernel framebuffer device interface? yes or no there where i am02:21
ardchoillewii: Choose "no"02:21
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Luminatahey, I jsut got a big file with videos that need to be unzipped first, and it says it has to be opened with winrar, I tried using Wine, What else should i try?02:22
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hitmanWillyLuminata: unrar02:22
dwidmannhitmanWilly: (it's something like 1 = /dev/sdc 2 = /dev/sda 3 = /dev/sdb 4 = /dev/sdd or something like that, haven't bothered to check the order in a bit02:22
LuminataAlright, can I just google that?02:22
crimsunintelikey: ifrename is the older (obsoleted) format.  It has been rolled into udev's functionality.  See also iftab(5).02:22
ardchoille!unrar | Luminata02:22
ubotuLuminata: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free02:22
BluesKajnosrednaekim,really eh ? where did you see that?02:22
ubuntu_Hi all!! I'm trying to run the installer from the CD, and it just hangs after the keyboard layout.  Using 7.10 beta.  Any ideas?02:22
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: glxinfo02:22
ardchoilleubuntu_: please read the channel topic02:23
intelikeycrimsun ok.   so if i'm not using udev and don't have ifrename   then can i assume that the module loadup order is the only factor involved here ?02:23
wiiardchoille: all of this u got to do just to install drivers?i'm here playing whit the keyboard layout02:24
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crimsunintelikey: if there are no hooks into /etc/iftab, then most likely you may assume that safely.02:24
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ardchoillewii: You have already installed the drivers. What you're doing now is configuring xorg for best results. Trust me, it's worth it.02:24
intelikeycrimsun ty.02:24
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BluesKajnosrednaekim, this new experimental driver gives me frame rates 50% higher than the older fglrx on feisty02:25
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wiiardchoille: they asking me for my mouse port.if i choose the wrong one will i be able to but it back?02:25
BluesKajnosrednaekim, I wonder if the default gutsy ati driver does the same ?02:26
ardchoillewii: You can just leave the mouse stuff as is02:26
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: thats what i'm saying..02:26
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: oh.. no.. its not.02:26
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: it says "warning xpress200 detected" though ;)02:27
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wiiardchoille: now they talking about module.leave it as it is?02:27
salserohi all. who can help me here : http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3087176.002:27
wii X.Org server modules that should be loaded by default:02:27
ardchoillewii: leave it as is02:28
wii!ask | salsero02:28
intelikeyardchoille heh i load one fonts module only02:28
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ubotusalsero: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)02:28
ardchoilleintelikey: I've never messed with that stuff, so I don't know.02:29
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salseroi have a acer aspire 9303 notebook. i want to use the intergrated webcam02:29
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BluesKajhmmm nosrednaekim , i have no such warning02:29
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intelikeydoesn't matter.   was just saying02:29
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killermachmy laptop only does 1024x768 resolution, how do I set kubuntu to do a larger resolution so I have  a virtual resolution of 1280x1024?02:29
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nosrednaekimBluesKaj: but are you using fglrx?02:29
salseroand i try do to this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3114742&postcount=602:29
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killermachthe laptop will obviously only show 1024x768 section of any portion of the virtual desktop and will scroll when you mouse to the edges02:30
ardchoilleTm_T: May I pm you lease?02:30
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salserobut i get a error message: Unable to set format: 5.02:30
salsero Init v4L2 failed !! exit fatal02:30
Tm_Tardchoille: yes?02:30
BluesKajyup nosrednaekim, this one : http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeonhdd.html02:31
_Christianhow can install02:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about songbird - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:31
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: I'm talking the opensource one..02:31
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BluesKaj!info songbird02:31
ubotuPackage songbird does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas02:31
BluesKajnosrednaekim, URL ?02:32
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Jucatono package for songbird02:32
_Christianthank u02:32
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: the default one included in Xorg02:32
intelikey_Christian you "can" get the source and build it.02:32
intelikey!b-e _Christian02:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about b-e _christian - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:32
intelikey!b-e |_Christian02:32
ubotu_Christian: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)02:32
nosrednaekim_Christian: that doesn't mean its impossible to install though.02:32
Dracaricouldnt solve the wifi prob but my old PS2 "Go Net" USB eithernet adapter is working02:32
_Christianiam lost02:33
_Christianinstalling nvidia drivers:S02:33
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nosrednaekimDracari: thats good.02:33
ardchoille!nvidia | _Christian02:33
ubotu_Christian: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:33
Dracarii did a quick google for the linux bcm 4303 driver02:33
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salserou can find songbird as deb here http://www.getdeb.net/comment.php?rel_id=384&new=102:34
ghozalahay is it necesary to have compiz to run emerald02:34
Dracarifrom the bcm43xx.berlios.de site, "This driver has been included to the Linux kernel since
Dracaridoes kubuntu Fiesty fawn use that or a newer kernel?02:35
intelikey!hardware | Dracari maybe a quick check on this list02:35
ubotuDracari maybe a quick check on this list: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport02:35
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Dracariintel the card isnt on teh list as broken or working02:35
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intelikeyDracari fiesty uses 2.6.20 i think ???02:35
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Dracarithe card itself is teh linksys wmp 11 v2.7 but it identifies its chipsetto linux as the bcm430302:36
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Dracari(tryingto get all bugs out and set be4 the 18th)02:37
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Dracaritaking this pc with me to a convention thats a weeee bit outta my way :)02:38
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intelikeybe4 ?    ur so l33702:38
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Dracarilol curse of net shorthand02:38
ghozalahay can any body tell a room for kubuntu loook02:39
Darkrift411is there a way to make it so that any usb hd i plug in gets auto mounted (without having to go manually mount it the first time) ?02:39
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underdog5004Is there any way to get scp to ignore/exclude files when copying? DISCLAIMER: I've already looked at man page...no joy :(02:40
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intelikeyunderdog5004 regex02:41
underdog5004lol, but scp doesn't have any options for exclusion...02:41
ghozalaHELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT IS THE CHANNEL FOR KUBUNTU LOOOK02:41
Jucato!caps | ghozala02:42
ubotughozala: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.02:42
Jucatoghozala: there is no channel for kubuntu look. what are you looking for exactly02:42
ghozalaok i ve got emerald and i cannot activate it to work02:42
Jucato!beryl | ghozala02:43
ubotughozala: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects02:43
_Christianwhat channel02:43
_Christianis in spanish?02:43
ghozalai ve these problem from a couple fo days02:43
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.02:43
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Jucatoghozala: try going to #ubuntu-effects02:43
Do0oDzhello can someone help me plz ? .. I'm installing superkaramba .. and I just compiled the file .. and after make install I got this .. can someone make sure if the out put is ok ? http://pastebin.ca/72744302:43
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ghozalaok thanks and sorrry for SHOUTING02:44
intelikeyunderdog5004 no i mean regex the list.   basicly let the shell generate the desired list before scp starts.02:44
underdog5004Do0oDz, why are you making from source? superkaramba is in the repos...02:44
ardchoilleDo0oDz: Why did you compile superkaramba? You should already have it02:44
Do0oDzunderdog5004 : lol I dont know ... so I might find it in the package manager ?02:44
ardchoilleDo0oDz: You probably already have it installed02:44
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ardchoilleDo0oDz: Look at the bottom of the Utilities menu02:45
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Do0oDzardchoille ... and ?02:45
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ardchoilleDo0oDz: Open a term and type this to see if it's already installed: apt-cache policy superkaramba02:46
Do0oDzardchoille: I just got in the package manager and installing the package :D..02:46
ardchoilleDo0oDz: If it isn't installed, you can install it with: sudo apt-get install superkaramba02:46
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ardchoilleDo0oDz: ok02:47
majnoonhi hi TRYING the gutsy upgrade02:47
ardchoilleIt must have been installed on my system when I installed something else02:47
Do0oDzardchoille: ok after I install it ... where can I find it ? ..02:47
intelikeyunderdog5004 idea.   if all you want is audio files:  ssh user@host    and    find /basedir/ -type f | while read Q ;do file $Q | grep -qie audio && scp $Q user@host:/dir/ ;done02:48
ardchoilleDo0oDz: The make install error you got looks like you tried make install without using sudo02:48
underdog5004intelikey, gotcha02:48
ardchoilleDo0oDz: IT should appear in the menu02:48
intelikeyunderdog5004   adjust the idea as needed   ^02:48
underdog5004intelikey, I just want to not copy a dir named (creatively) "Protected"02:48
Do0oDzardchoille: found it under utilities :D .. thaank u guys :D02:48
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Mr_SonomaBluesKaj: it worked!!! i knew it had to be something simple i was overlooking thanks.02:49
intelikeyunderdog5004 idea.   if all you want is audio files:  ssh user@host    and    find /basedir/ -type f | while read Q ;do echo "$Q" | grep -vqie "Protected" && scp $Q user@host:/dir/ ;done02:49
intelikeyadjusted   now just use your user/host info.02:49
underdog5004intelikey, cool, thanks!02:50
BluesKajcool , Mr_Sonoma , glad to hear it ;)02:50
intelikeyor maybe not.02:50
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BluesKajMr_Sonoma, did you install ' dvd+rw-tools ' too ?02:51
intelikeyunderdog5004 you may want to play with that syntax some to get the specific results you want.   i.e.  using  $Q again in the destination will preserve subdirs  and so forth02:51
underdog5004intelikey, I'm no great shakes at regexps, but it looks like that will _only_ copy Protected....02:52
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intelikeyunderdog5004 grep -vqie <<<  the -v is invert.  i.e. fail if matching.02:52
underdog5004intelikey, nice02:52
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intelikeyyou may want to make the dir tree first    idk.02:53
underdog5004erm, dir tree?02:53
Mr_SonomaBluesKaj: i installed dvdrtools didnt know about or search for dvd+rw-tools02:53
intelikeyon the target   yes02:53
underdog5004I'm not sure what that means02:54
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intelikeyif coping to localhost    mkdir -p `ssh user@host find /basedir/ -type d`02:54
BluesKajMr_Sonoma, do you have synaptic ..if so just type 'growisofs' in the searchbox02:54
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intelikeythat will built the dirrectory tree for the target  with nothing in it.02:55
Mr_SonomaBluesKaj: adept, but its the same thing. i do most my package management CLI though =)02:55
underdog5004I just don't understand why that's necessary...02:55
intelikeydoesn't skip the "Protected" dir  but it will be empty.02:55
BluesKajwell, Mr_Sonoma  it's a way of finding buried pkgs that adept doesn't see02:56
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intelikeyunderdog5004 i'm not sure it is.   you can test with something like    scp user@host:/etc/fstab ./blah/blah/blah  and see if it makes dirs or not...02:56
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Mr_SonomaBluesKaj: synaptic see's more packages than adept does?02:56
intelikeyif not then you'll need to prebuild the dir tree02:57
BluesKajsub pkgs yes02:57
Mr_Sonomahmmmmm maybe i need to get around to installing that gnome desktop (i got called out of here after asking about that earlier)02:58
underdog5004intelikey, I've got the scp running from localhost to scp my /home/user to me@remote-server:/backup/dir, then have a crontab entry to tar/delete the files up...02:58
BluesKajMr_Sonoma, I like kde a lot but synaptic is superior to adept in many ways in my experience02:58
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intelikeyunderdog5004 ok.  but the shell command i gave as an example will probably not preserver sub dirs   unless you adjust it some,  and probably wont make new sub dirs.    just something you should watch for.02:59
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underdog5004ok, thanks for your help03:00
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Mr_SonomaBluesKaj: kde is what i started with, so thats what i stick with. but there are some other nice DE's out there besides i like to play.....anyways hadnt ever heard anyone say that synaptic was superior to adept my assumption was that it was just a diff GUI front end to the same backend (apt or what have you)03:00
intelikeyunderdog5004 let me give one more example.  using the info you provided.03:00
Mr_Sonomabut you know what they say about "assume"03:00
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BluesKajSynaptic has a better "search engine" than adept does :)03:01
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underdog5004intelikey, ok03:02
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Mr_SonomaBluesKaj: either +rw-tools was installed with dvdrtools or with k3b but anyways it was already there. but thanks anyways man =)03:05
intelikeyfind ~/ ! -iname "*Protected*" | while read Q ;do [ -d "$Q" ]  && ssh me@remote-server mkdir -p $Q || scp "$Q" me@remote-server:$Q ;done03:06
intelikeyunderdog5004 only need to adjust name and address for that to work.      unless i missed something.03:07
intelikeymight quote the $Q on the one i didn't quote.03:07
underdog5004very cool, let me try this out (minus the scp elements, don't want to copy 80 gigs for nothing...)03:07
intelikeyyou can prepend echo and just display what would have happened03:08
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underdog5004prepend or append?03:09
intelikeyfind ~/ ! -iname "*Protected*" | while read Q ;do [ -d "$Q" ]  && ssh me@remote-server mkdir -p "$Q" || echo "scp \"$Q\" me@remote-server:\"$Q\"" ;done03:09
underdog5004nvm, got it03:09
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underdog5004looking very very good03:09
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underdog5004alright, looks good, thank you so so much. I really  need to learn about regexps, but I just don't have the time...03:10
Gazza"and you are young and time is long ....." - pink floyd :)03:11
intelikeythis one is good for just looking at what would have happened without the euch ".*" >>>>>  find ~/ ! -iname "*Protected*" | while read Q ;do [ -d "$Q" ]  && echo "ssh me@remote-server mkdir -p \"$Q\"" || echo "scp \"$Q\" me@remote-server:\"$Q\"" ;done03:11
intelikeyeuch ???03:11
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intelikeyGazza don't chase the sun,03:12
Gazzai become the sun :)03:12
underdog5004hmmm, when I prepend grep Protected, it displays stuff in the Protected folder...strange, and not good.03:13
intelikeyoh yeah ?   that's very becomming of you03:13
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underdog5004erm, thanks?03:13
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Gazzaark ark ark03:14
intelikeyunderdog5004 >>>>  find ~/ ! -iname "*Protected*" | while read Q ;do [ -d "$Q" ]  && echo "ssh me@remote-server mkdir -p \"$Q\"" || echo "scp \"$Q\" me@remote-server:\"$Q\"" ;done <<<  test without doing anything.   try it.03:15
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intelikeyunless they have broken "find" in your version of *buntu  then it does work.03:16
intelikeyi can't promice that they didn't break find  or regex or bash even.03:17
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intelikeyit has happened before.03:17
intelikeyedgy comes to mind.03:17
underdog5004intelikey, when I put | grep Protected at the end, it shows the Protected directory03:17
underdog5004you mean with /bin/sh -> /bin/dash?03:17
underdog5004I'm using Feisty right now03:17
intelikeythen something is broken...03:17
intelikeyno i mean truely broke regex in bash03:18
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intelikeyi just tested the syntax for the find command three ways   it works here.03:18
underdog5004I think /bin/sh might point to /bin/dash, would that be a problem?03:18
underdog5004incidentally, it points to dash03:19
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intelikeymight try   running sh first and then the command and see if it's a broken bash that's the problem.03:19
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intelikeyand is bloated.03:20
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underdog5004nope, when I do it from /bin/sh I get the same stuff, here's the command I used: sudo find ~/ ! -iname "*Protected*" | while read Q ;do [ -d "$Q" ]  && echo "ssh me@remote-server mkdir -p \"$Q\"" || echo "scp \"$Q\" me@remote-server:\"$Q\"" ;done | grep Protected03:21
intelikeyand it outputs things ???03:22
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underdog5004example: scp "/home/matthew/Desktop/Protected/Movies/stylewar_inthisworld.mov" me@remote-server:"/home/matthew/Desktop/Protected/Movies/stylewar_inthisworld.mov"03:22
intelikeythen find must be borked  it's not supposed to display anything containing  "*Protected*"03:22
underdog5004erm, the grep Protected is outside the ;done , would that make a difference?03:23
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underdog5004hmm, dpkg -l | grep find only returns kfind 3.5.603:24
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underdog5004erm, and findutils03:25
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naught101anyone here running (k)gutsy? knetworkmanager isn't picking up my wireless card, even though kwifimanager and wlassistant both do.03:28
underdog5004what a pita03:28
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ardchoillenaught101: join #ubuntu+103:29
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naught101ardchoille: I know, but it's way too busy at the moment, and most people there aren't using kde anyway03:29
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naught101(I already asked, and got no answer)03:30
ardchoillenaught101: Hmm.. perhaps there should be a #kubuntu+103:30
ardchoilleThere's no #kubuntu-ops?03:30
naught101no, only with me in it03:31
intelikeyi think ubuntu-ops covers them all03:31
ardchoilleintelikey: ah03:31
naught101apparently kubuntu+1 exists though, just not in use03:31
ardchoilleWell, perhaps #kubuntu+1 should be created for the kde folks who like to run the dev release.03:31
naught101I'm there03:31
ardchoilleoh, ok03:31
intelikeywhere did that undercat go?03:32
ardchoillenaught101: Any channel you join will "exist". Try joining #naught10103:32
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naught101ardchoille: yeah, I know, but I joined #kubuntu-ops, and I got op (I assume that means I created it), I joined #kubuntu+1, and didn't03:33
naught101and I read the date wrong ;)03:33
intelikeyardchoille i joined a channel once that didn't exist....:)     you can't make some channels  they just redirrect you to something else.   #linuxhelp  for example.03:33
naught101I thought it said the 10/june/07, but it was the 6th of oct 0703:34
ardchoillenaught101: When you join a channel, the channel creation date is printed in the channel.03:34
naught101ardchoille: I know. I just said that I read it wrong.03:35
ardchoilleAnyway, I just feel that #kubuntu+1 should be for kde folks who run the dev release.03:35
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mikeanyone familliar with kmymoney2?03:36
intelikeysomeone running fiesty please test     find ~/ ! -iname "*kde*" | grep kde       and see if they get any output please.03:36
ardchoilleSeems it was:  Registered: 6 weeks 5 days (22h 4m 59s) ago03:36
Do0oDzhello ..I removed the bottom panel .. and I cant seem to get it back :S .. ! how can I ?03:36
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intelikeyDo0oDz alt+f2 kicker03:37
ardchoilleintelikey: Feisty here. That command only outputs ~/.kde* stuff03:37
intelikeyardchoille ok thank you.    that means something is broken in either find or regex or somewhere...03:38
Do0oDzintelikey : nothing happens03:38
ardchoilleintelikey: That returns nothing for you?03:38
intelikeyDo0oDz i guess i should have asked, what desktop ?03:39
ardchoilleI can only think that he deleted ~/.kde03:39
Do0oDzintelikey : I just right clicked and removed the panel applications lol ...03:40
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Do0oDzardchoille : .. when I added some widgets to the desktop in supekaramba when I logged back in .. nothing is there ! ..03:41
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hdevalencemy konqueror AdblocK has stopped working03:43
intelikeyDo0oDz do you have any "panel" at all ?03:43
ardchoilleDo0oDz: I do't use superkaramba, so I'm afraid I can't help with it03:43
hdevalenceoh nvm03:44
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Do0oDzintelikey : yea but an empty one03:45
Do0oDzintelikey : no workspaces .. and no launchers nothing !03:45
intelikeyDo0oDz just add them.03:45
Do0oDzintelikey : how ! .. :S03:45
intelikeyright click add03:45
ardchoilleDo0oDz: Can you right click the panel and choose Add applet to panel ?03:45
Do0oDzyea got it :)03:46
Do0oDzthanks :)03:46
ardchoillefill 'er up :)03:46
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intelikeyardchoille ok  seems that it's the dot that is breaking find.  care to try it with a dir name that doesn't contain dot ?03:48
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DinkowHey all-- When I launch off the live CD I get an empty desktop-- anyone know why that might be03:50
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intelikeyif underdog5004 would come back around i have a working "bypass" for that.03:51
intelikeyDinkow bad disk ?  low mem ?    fluke ?03:51
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Dinkowdisc is tested and fine, hdd is fine-- got 2gb in the machine.  So that leaves fluke :)03:52
intelikeywell,   there you have it.03:52
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BluesKajsacktime, long day tomorrow ..reshingling the roof03:54
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DinkowI'm hoping for a more.. technical definition-- one perhaps that might lead to a solution :)03:54
U238WillyDinkow, explain empty03:54
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U238Willysorry.. it didn't scroll03:54
Dinkowa pleasing blue desktop with a nicely rendered cursor (not the X cursor)03:55
ardchoilleintelikey: I don't have any files in $HOME without a dot03:55
ardchoilleExcept for the Dekstop dir, but it's empty03:55
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U238Willyhmm.. that's news to me..03:56
intelikeyardchoille heh.  ok.   never mind i think find has had that bug for a few releases now.   they started calling it a feature it's been there so long.03:56
U238Willyi know the typical desktop is sparce..03:56
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ardchoilleU238Willy: Yes, but the desktop on the livecd at least should have the Install icon03:56
DinkowThere's sparse and then there's barren :)  I'll try downloading the alternate cd and try installing that way03:57
Dinkowany way I can launch the installer from command line off the liveCD ?03:57
intelikeyDinkow alt+f2  ubiquity03:57
ardchoilleDinkow: You culd if you had the proper command03:57
ardchoilleah, there it is03:57
U238Willyintelikey is a master.03:58
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ardchoilleYeah, intelikey is cool :)03:58
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DinkowWill give it a go03:58
intelikeyhe's my hero03:58
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intelikeyoh wait that's me    sorry.03:58
intelikeythat happens some times ya know....   </blushes>03:58
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DinkowI've got an error message now at least-- kdesu: cannot connect to X server03:59
U238Willyi've been here a few times.. and intelikey is quite knowledgeable on kubuntu.03:59
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bazhanghi intelikey03:59
intelikeybazhang they are trying to crack my box...  ;/04:00
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bazhangintelikey: check out #kubuntu-offtopic! haha04:02
intelikeythey think if they will just flatter me enough that i'll invite them in...     but i know their game.     i may have been born at night,  but it wasn't last night.04:02
ardchoilleintelikey: But, flattery get us everywhere, doesn't it?04:02
bazhangwas one of your boxes used to power the storm botnet!04:02
intelikeywe'll see.04:03
bazhangtrue story!04:03
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intelikeybazhang no.04:03
bazhangnot about your box, but the cracked linux box04:03
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ardchoilleI would like to kill an app at a certain time regardless of whether I'm at the computer or not. Should I use "pidof" in an if/else statement or is there a more reliable way?04:07
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intelikeykillall appname04:07
ardchoilleYeah, didn't think of that.. d'oh04:07
intelikeyardchoille cron job ?04:08
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intelikeyyeah i think killall would probably be the way to go unless you have it make a pid file at start and only want to kill one instance04:08
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bazhangwhat will this channel be called after Gutsy is released? #kubuntu-1?04:17
Agent_bobsame thing it's called now04:17
ardchoillebazhang: No, this channel is always for the rleased version04:18
Agent_boband the development channel will still be *buntu+104:18
bazhangright; what I meant was what will the older release channel be called?04:18
Agent_bobyes that's what i said.04:18
Agent_bobthere isn't one.04:18
ardchoillebazhang: The channels never change04:18
Agent_bobbazhang dapper is still supported right hear04:19
Agent_bobhere here  you hear.04:19
ardchoilleThe folks who run Gutsy now go to +1, after Oct. 18, they will be helped here and Hardy Herron users will go to +104:19
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ardchoilleAgent_bob: lol04:20
bazhangardchoille: thanks!04:20
neversfelde|mobimhh, is it #kubuntu+1 ?04:20
Agent_bobis that really the name of the next one ?    seems like hoary hedgehog would have been enouth   h h04:20
neversfelde|mobiI am all alone :)04:20
ardchoilleAgent_bob: Hoary was released before they came up with the idea of alphabetising it04:21
ardchoilleneversfelde|mobi: #ubuntu+104:21
Agent_bobneversfelde|mobi no.   #ubuntu+1   only04:21
Agent_bobardchoille i know that.  but they didn't start at a a  so why repete h h04:21
ardchoilleno idea04:21
ardchoilleAA is for quitters04:22
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Agent_bobi'll ask intelikey he knows.04:22
Agent_bobhe's my hero.04:22
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neversfelde|mobiis there a special reason for not having kubuntu+1?04:22
ardchoilleapparently he's his hero too04:22
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Agent_bobardchoille it's me... :)04:22
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ardchoilleneversfelde|mobi:  that channel was registered a while back but isn't used for some reason04:23
neversfelde|mobisome reasons?04:24
bazhangneversfelde|mobi: it's all good--we kubuntu users know who we are...04:25
neversfelde|mobis more ist typical german :D04:25
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neversfelde|mobibazhang: I do not claim this channel, I think it's efficient to operate with one04:27
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naught101anyone know if there's any difference between powermanager and kpowersave in terms of battery life?04:27
bazhangneversfelde|mobi: sorry; just kidding around.04:28
coteyrok so i am having a bit of a problem I can't seem tofigure out. I installed kubuntu as a text mode system on a old compac I have. The nic in the compac used to work under and older distro with the e100 module. During the setup(installer) it worked and I checked the logs it was using the e100 driver04:28
neversfelde|mobinaught101: I do not observed a difference, but there is no guarantee from me :)04:28
KeinIs it possible to change the icon a program uses(not shortcut icon)04:28
coteyrbut I can't get the nic to work now.04:28
neversfelde|mobibazhang: :D04:29
neversfelde|mobiKein: patch it. But why?04:31
coteyrthe last line in the logs regaurding this driver are e100probeaddr 0x40000000, irq 18 mac addr: (and the mac)04:31
coteyrso it looks like it found it04:31
coteyrbut why can't I ifconfig eth0 without an error04:31
Keinbecause a few icons are hideous04:31
Keinlike the Pidgin one04:31
coteyrodd it moved it to eth204:31
coteyrok got it working useing eth2 but why is the refrence to eth2 not 004:33
coteyrthere are no other nics installed04:33
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neversfelde|mobiKein: and manual changing isn't a solution?04:33
KeinI want to know HOW to do that. >_>04:33
naught102neversfelde|mobi: thanks04:33
neversfelde|mobiKein: would be a gig effort to do that. You should learn something about packaging a *ubunu deb04:34
Linus___________Can somebody point me at wherever the control is to stop the screen from dimming?04:35
neversfelde|mobinaught102: let me know if you experience an advantage04:35
coteyrLinus; the mowere manager i think04:36
naught102likewise, I doubt that I will notice any difference... I think I'll just stick with kpowersave, much more configureable04:36
Linus___________coteyr: Where is that?  I've been all over system settings and have not found it04:37
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never|mobialthough it should be translated04:38
coteyrLinus; the little battery/plug thing in the system tray area04:38
coteyrLinus; though I could be wrong04:38
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Linus___________I'm a Linux heathen... only on it about a week... so far don't even know what a 'system tray' is either.04:39
Linus___________maybe better to say a 'new convert'04:39
coteyrLinus; the bottom right hand cornor of the screen the icons next to the clock if you havn't changed it04:40
Linus___________(apologies for my ignorance though)04:40
coteyrlinus; you might also trying running kcontrol there are more options there then there are in the system settings window04:40
Linus___________Hmmm.... next to the clock is the garbage can04:40
coteyrlinus; other side04:41
neversfelde|mobicoteyr: are there more options?04:41
neversfelde|mobinever experience that04:41
coteyrneversfelde|mobi; let me look but it seems like it04:41
coteyrneversfelde|mobi; maybe there jsut arranged in a way that i am more used to.04:41
neversfelde|mobii love kde-systemsettings and I had a discussion with a friend of mine today04:42
neversfelde|mobihe is a kcontrol fanatic04:42
coteyrneversfelde|mobi; kcontrol is my favorite but i have a feeling this could spark a vi v.s. emacs debate04:42
neversfelde|mobi:D it is pratice04:43
neversfelde|mobiand nano is great...04:43
Linus___________HMMM.. wondering if kcontrol has not installed.  Not in the menu04:43
coteyri do like nano04:43
subtrnlanyone have a dual headed extended desktop running with the intel driver?04:44
coteyrbt the word wrapping is annoying when working in config files04:44
coteyrlinus: press alt+f2 then type kcontrol04:44
neversfelde|mobiLinus___________: do an alt + f2 and insert kcontrol04:44
neversfelde|mobisubtrnl: me not04:45
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Linus___________well, ok, it found it, but where the h it was supposed to be in the menus I dunno!  Thank you!04:45
subtrnlnever: you use the intel driver as well?04:45
coteyrit's not in the menus04:46
neversfelde|mobilate in Germany, time to go. n804:46
coteyrwait till you discover grep04:46
subtrnll8r neversfelde|mobi04:46
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tomihow can i boot the system in 1024x768 resolution?I have nvidia04:48
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EightiesKanyone know how i can copy protect my own music cds?04:48
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coteyrtomi; edit the X config file04:49
bazhangEightiesK: DRM?04:49
fulat2khi folks, is there a user friendly application i can use to rip dvds in linux?04:49
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bazhangfulat2k: vlc04:49
coteyr /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:49
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EightiesKbazhang: plz explain. i've alwayed used realplayer to burn them04:49
subtrnltomi: or go to start -> system settings -> Monitor & Display and adjust what predifined settings you have in your xorg.conf already04:49
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fulat2kbazhang: eh?  didn't know it can rip dvds....04:49
tomiwell the X config file contains resolutions 1280x1024 1024x76804:50
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tomibut the system boots in 800x60004:50
fulat2kbazhang: uhh... does it include encoding to xvid/mp3 as well?04:50
coteyrput 1024x768 first04:50
bazhangfulat2k: if you get the plugins, I believe..04:50
coteyrtomi check the logs04:51
tomiwhen i go to Monitor & Display i have no choice04:51
coteyris there an error04:51
tomionly 800x60004:51
tomi@ 50 Hz04:51
bazhangfulat2k: http://lifehacker.com/software/dvds/rip-dvds-with-vlc-230349.php04:51
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tomicoteyr where are the logs? the dir ?04:52
coteyrtomi /var/log/Xorg.0.log04:53
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tomicoteyr part of the log -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39731/04:55
tomiit says no valid modes for all resolutions? why04:56
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subtrnltomi have you tried using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to generate a xorg.conf?04:58
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tomino, i will try that now04:59
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tomisubtrnl after i try this should i restart the whole system or just the X server with Ctrl Alt Backspase?05:02
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subtrnllogout then ctrl alt backspace05:02
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smackerhej   jag ska lgga in fonts till wine men hittar inte wine mapen utan den finns inte jag vet at den r dold men vart hittar ja den ?   tacksam fr alla frsk05:09
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hydrogeni'm sure theres a channel for you to go to05:12
hydrogenwhere people know what you said05:12
hydrogenbut I don't know what language that is05:12
smackerhaha :P where05:12
hydrogenso I don't know where to send yoU!05:12
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smackersweden :P05:13
ubotuSvensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se05:13
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smackerthx party party :D05:13
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Wolf23anyone help with gnokii?05:14
pongscriptguys can any one tell me how to change permisson on mounted hdd05:15
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pongscripti mounted an ntfs partition.. but i cant access that drive..05:16
pongscriptits says "permission denied"05:16
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pongscriptwhen i look at the property window.. it was configured group: root05:17
pongscriptand user:root05:17
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pongscriptbut when i use sudo su to change its permission05:17
pongscriptung chmod05:17
pongscriptusng chmod05:17
pongscriptthis is the command05:17
pongscriptchmod +r+w /media/sdc205:18
pongscriptcan anyone help?05:18
pongscripti' ill just be waiting for any answers... thanks guys..05:19
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subtrnlpongscript: chmod 777 will give permission to everyone05:19
pongscriptok.. i'll try that... thanks anyway05:21
hydrogenthats usually not what you want05:21
hydrogenin fact.. its not what you want05:21
hydrogenpongscript: you need to run the mount command as your user05:21
hydrogenafter configuring an entry in fstab05:21
hydrogenare you using ntfs3g or just readonly support?05:22
pongscriptwhen i type chmod 777 /media/sbc105:22
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pongscriptit says "changing permisson of readonly media"05:23
pongscripti just reinstalled the os...05:23
pongscripti dont have that kind of problem on my previous installation...05:23
pongscripti just reinstalled because i somehow messed up my configuration...05:24
subtrnltry start->system settings->Advanced tab-> Disk & Filesytem05:24
subtrnlyou can change the partitions to your hearts desire in the gui05:25
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pongscriptit was tagged as writable but when its always mounted as readonly...05:26
naught101anyone here using kpowersave?05:26
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naught101and notice that it only has 3 our of 5 governors?05:28
hydrogenpongscript: you need to use ntfs3g to mount a ntfs partiton read-write05:28
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions05:28
naught101ondemand and conservative are missing05:28
pongscriptokie.. thanks.. brb..05:28
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timbo__I have intel high def audio, and when im on here i get this static scratchy sound.  how do i fix it?05:29
timbo__but vista dont do it05:29
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pansapien7Anyone done a dist-upgrade from Feisty to Gutsy here ? .... the icons for play/stop/skip etc buttons in Amarok have all disappeared ... all just show a 'piece of paper' icon now.05:31
pansapien7is also effecting kompose for me ...05:31
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subtrnlis it a constant scratchy sound timbo?05:35
sjckhey, how can i turn of the sound in console when i press tab?05:36
timbo__just the left speaker while playing any mp3 on my music players05:36
subtrnlsjck: system settings -> notifications05:37
thoreauputicsjck: or  xset b off05:37
pansapien7sjck: Settings > Bell > Visible Bell ?05:37
sjckwill that be saved?05:37
timbo__but in vista it dont do it05:37
thoreauputicin a real console ( tty) use setterm -blength 005:38
sjckworks, thanks :)05:38
pansapien7sjck: changes made to konsole via the Settings menu should save, if you click "Save as Default"05:39
pansapien7I just noticed the icons in my Konsole Settings menu are also missing.05:39
pansapien7Anyone know which package contains all these KDE specific icons ?05:40
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pansapien7somethings not been upgraded right in my Feisty->Gutsy dist-upgrade ... I'm trying to chase it down to file a bug report05:41
ardchoillepansapien7:  kdeartwork-theme-icon05:41
ardchoillekdeartwork-theme-icon - icon themes released with KDE05:41
ardchoillepansapien7: There's also the  kdeartwork  package which contains a lot of tstuff05:41
pansapien7hmm, those are both installed05:42
ardchoillepansapien7: Open adept and search for "kde-icon" , there are lots of packages05:42
ardchoillesorry, it's "kde-icons"05:42
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pansapien7strangely, apt-get install kdeartwork-theme-icon also says "kdeartwork-theme-icon set to manual installed.". Any idea what that means ?05:43
sjckntfs3g coudnt handle one of my partitions reason "hda7 is busy" what can I do? :)05:44
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timbo__ok it went away when i changed my my master channel to pcm05:45
timbo__but both front and pc sounded like garbage05:46
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pansapien7Ahh.. for the record, I just found out what it means when apt says something was "manually installed".05:52
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pansapien7It means it was manually installed :) Eg, not installed automatically as a dependancy, but directly by the use. Also means apt-get autoremove won't remove it if it was manually installed.05:53
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killermachcan someone educate me on the ~/.kde/share/config/systemsettingsrc file?05:54
killermach have a laptop with a second monitor, Syncmaster 225BW LCD, which is capable of doing 1680x105005:55
killermachand when I boot kubuntu, I get a kdm screen that is 1680x1050 on the external monitor05:55
killermachonce I login, I the monitor goes blank, says no signal, then the power light starts blinking, sleep mode05:55
killermachsomething in kde session is doing this .. and I'm having problems figuring out how to fix it05:55
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timbo__is there an easy way to get beryl to open on startup05:57
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Capt_Carrotwell, moving to something that's currently in development would be good...  but i'm not going to push that move :)05:59
timbo__I take that as a no?05:59
Capt_Carrotthere should be some sort of section for autostarted applications05:59
pansapien7Ah ha ! Icons fixed. If I run the KDE Control Centre and change my icon theme, the missing icons now appear. If I choose the Ubuntu Human theme icons, or the Crux icons, they disappear.05:59
Capt_Carrotalternately, check ~/.kde/autostart05:59
Capt_Carroti think, don't remember for sure05:59
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pansapien7Looks like there is something wrong/missing with these themes.05:59
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zarilionWhat's the term to use to auto search for "help" ?06:04
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zarilionOk... Then i'll try myself..06:07
charlie5hi all ... do usb harddrives need special attention in /etc/fstab ? ... when i boot and log in, the drives partitions are mounted ok and i can access them, but after about 10 mins, they are all unmounted for some reason, even if they are currently in use :/06:07
zarilion!search xserver resett06:07
ubotuFound: xconfig06:07
zarilion!search xserver reset06:07
zarilion!help xserver reconfigure06:08
sjckwhats a big hdd for an notebook? :)06:08
charlie5... if it's any help, the problem only started after the recent kernel update06:08
usser80gb is pretty big06:08
sjckbut 200-500gb possible?06:09
zarilion160 is the biggest atm i think.06:09
sjcknot that much to be honest..06:09
zarilionhmmm. you actually can get 250 as 2,5" s-ata-06:10
sjckthat sounds better06:11
zarilionCan anyone give me the command to reconfigure xserver?06:11
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:11
Dr_willisHmm. thats not it.. :006:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about reconfigure - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:11
Dr_willisI bet its mentioned on that site however.06:12
subtrnlzarilion: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:12
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zarilionHmm.  Can't read it.. Using terminal now.. irssi.06:12
zarilionsubtrnl: Thank you.06:12
Dr_willisi can never rember the last part. :006:12
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Dr_willisthen again. i always keep backups of the working xorgs :)06:13
subtrnlDr_willis: yeah, I try to too06:13
subtrnllord knows how many times I jack up my xorg.conf06:13
Dr_willisits amazing how simple the xorg.conf files I have are these days.06:13
wightstrakerxorg.conf is not my friend06:14
subtrnlhehe, yeah once you get them cleaned up they can be really compact06:14
Dr_willisheck the original one ubuntu made was rather slim. :006:15
Dr_willisim still not sure why the config tools for the nvidia stuff like to disalbe the logo.. :)  i LIKE the logo..06:15
Dr_willisI like to enable the mouse shadow also.06:15
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subtrnlyeah, I ran linux years ago and decided to come back to it just recently06:16
sjckhow can I disable login-screen (autologin)? :)06:16
subtrnlIt's amazing how far it has come with the eye candy06:16
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DaSkreechBored :)06:19
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subtrnlsjck: K-Menu->System Setting->Login Manager->Conv tab06:20
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sjckthanks, reboot. :)06:21
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Wolf23anyone help me with gmokii please!!06:28
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sjck<3 klipper :)06:29
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Linus2Wolf23: You might just try asking your question.  If someone knows an answer, they are more likely to just answer than to guess if they can help06:34
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timbo__how do i disable sounds in kopete06:44
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Linux_Galoretimbo__: settings->confgure notifications in the main window06:47
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timbo__Thank you very much06:49
timbo__that was easy06:49
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timbo__i knew that i had seen it before06:49
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timbo__but then i couldnt find it lol06:49
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Linux_Galoretimbo__: all kde apps seem to have the same method06:52
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timbo__i seen that06:52
timbo__guess im just tired and didnt notice the sound before now06:52
timbo__worked a 12 hour day and those sounds were driving me nutzo06:53
Linux_Galorejust tested the none manual method of setting up a network printer in Kubuntu, total no brainer, only issue was it doesnt seem to start cups when you want to set it up you have to go back to services and turn cups on06:53
Linux_GaloreKbuntu 7.10 that is06:54
Linux_GaloreI almost went and did a started the cupsd inits script from the command line and had to stop myself as Im doing a newbie user test06:54
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DaSkreechLinux_Galore: I know newbie tests are hard06:57
DaSkreechHow would i do this the wrong way?06:57
Linux_Galoreseem to have found a minor bug in Kubuntu 7.10, I tried to setup a network printer (HP C6180), so i went into the printer setup section in settings and it did a dummy spit about cups not being started, now instead of just asking me if I wanted cups started it went gave a vague error (well to a newbie it was for me I knew what was wrong cups wasnt running)06:58
DaSkreechLinux_Galore: Did an update06:58
DaSkreech i just had a cups update06:58
Linux_GaloreDaSkreech: cups works fine its a method problem in the printer setup06:59
Linux_GaloreDaSkreech: dont forget a newbie hasnt got a clue what cups is06:59
DaSkreechThey are what you Put Kaffine in07:00
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Linux_GaloreDaSkreech: I had to get out of the print setup and go into the system services section and start cups, I shouldnt have had to do this07:00
Linux_GaloreDaSkreech: heh07:01
Linux_GaloreDaSkreech: well ignoring the cups thing in the graphical print setup tool getting the HP C6180 working over a network was rather easy07:02
Linux_Galoreonly other bug was Im using metric as my default and cups seems to use US-Letter instead of the metric A4 page size07:02
Linux_Galoreso I had to change the default page size in the settings section of the print setup tool07:03
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Linux_GaloreI should have had to change the page size if the country Im in is metric07:04
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Linux_Galores/should/should not/07:04
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Linux_GaloreHow does one disable strigi, it segs faults all the time for me and I dont use it anyway07:08
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Linux_Galorehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-systemsettings/+bug/148054 bugger07:09
Linux_Galorethere isnt one07:09
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Linux_Galoresudo apt-get remove strigi-*07:10
Linux_Galorelol that kills it07:10
hydrogenprobably your best bet07:10
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Linux_Galoresudo apt-get remove strigi-daemon seems to be the best07:13
ErtainHello everyone.07:13
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Linux_Galorewhat I find annoying is it didnt ask me if I wanted strigi07:14
ubotuSvensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se07:14
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ErtainI've been trying to build a pack for Ksquirrel-libs for the latest version (0.7.2).  I can't find any source packages so I had to make it from scratch.  Every time I make the pack it doesn't contain the right files.  Any ideas?07:16
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DaSkreechLinux_Galore: Sorry you were saying?07:21
DaSkreechKonversation no longer has the tree by default?07:22
DaSkreechKDE froze right after I pulled down the updates :-(07:23
DaSkreechWhen I came back up and started konversation behold! Tabs and no treelist07:23
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ardchoillea treelist robs valuable space from the main window anyway07:26
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DaSkreechOf many leaves and parts07:27
DaSkreech wheee07:27
DaSkreechin any case we shall see if the icon mouseovers freeze up the computer again07:28
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InvSymi added an additional hd to my comp but kubuntu says only root can mount it. Anyone know how to make it work?07:37
InvSymI added lines to fstab and mtab but still won't mount07:38
InvSymi'm new to kubuntu and linux07:38
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sub[t] rnllook in start->system settings->advanced-> disk & filesystems07:39
ardchoilleInvSym: Can you show us the line you used in fstab for the new drive?07:40
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InvSymi added07:41
InvSym.../dev/hdb1       /media/hdb1     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       107:41
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InvSymand same line for hdb5,  one drive , two partitions07:42
InvSymthe line is a copy with edit of the lines that do work for the drive that was present when i installed kubuntu07:42
ardchoilleInvSym: Ok, and it's the /dev/hdb1 drive you want mounted?07:43
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InvSymthat and /dev/hdb507:43
InvSymi added a line for each07:43
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ardchoilleInvSym: ok and they are both vfat file systems?07:43
ardchoilleInvSym: open a terminal and do:07:44
InvSymwhen I try to mount them it says only root can mount07:44
InvSymterm is open07:44
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ardchoilleInvSym: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb107:44
ardchoilleInvSym: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hdb5 /media/hdb507:44
ardchoilleAssuming that hdb5 line is the correct mount point07:45
InvSymgave command, it says...  mount: mount point /media/hdb1 does not exist07:45
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ardchoilleInvSym: sudo mkdir /media/hdb1 /media/hdb507:46
ardchoilleInvSym: Then proceed with the mount commands.07:46
InvSymthere is no folder hdb1 in media, I didn't make it cause I thought the os would make it07:46
ardchoilleYou have to have the mount point (/media/hdb1 in this case) created before trying to mount07:46
InvSymok, guess I better do that07:47
ardchoilleyou have to make those directories manually07:47
InvSymwill do07:47
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ardchoilleOnce you have them mounted you can leave them mounted and they should automount on reboot from now on since you have those lines in fstab07:48
InvSymdo i need any option with the mkdir command?07:48
ardchoillebut you do need touse sudo07:49
InvSymok, thanks07:49
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CreationistI have a very serious issue here...07:50
CreationistWhy is KMines so fricken hard!?!07:50
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ardchoilleCreationist: Do you know how to use the numbers to figure out where the mines are?07:51
Creationistardchoille: lol yes, I do... that was more of a joke than anything else.  But seriously, it's the most difficult fricken mine game I've ever played07:51
CreationistI lose more games before any empty space is revealed than anything else.07:52
ardchoilleCreationist: Settings > Choose Game Type ?07:52
Creationistardchoille: This is on easy ;)07:52
ardchoilleCreationist: perhaps you need to install lib-luck.so.0, lol07:52
CreationistI remember playing the Gnome version and actually enjoying it.  But with KMines, I just click three times and boom... eh well07:52
InvSymmade those dirs, gave the mount commad for hdb1 and it worked07:53
ardchoilleInvSym: Good job :)07:53
InvSymhdb5 not work, think i have an error in my mtab07:53
InvSymI'll fix07:53
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InvSymbut thanks, that's great07:53
Creationistardchoille: Oh, if only I could "apt-get install makemelucky.so" :)07:53
ardchoilleCreationist: heh, I'm still waiting for libpatience.so.007:53
CreationistLemme know when they release a stable version of libeverythingworksflawlessly.so.0 ;)07:54
ardchoillelol, gentoo made me very aware that I was missing that lib07:54
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ardchoilleCreationist: hahaha07:54
CreationistOh goodness.... when I was about 17-18, I think, I chose Gentoo for my very first Linux distro ever.07:55
CreationistNeedless to say, I didn't try Linux again for almost a decade ;)07:55
InvSymthanks tons, awesum, going to reboot, bye :)07:55
ardchoilleCreationist: Yeah, it kicked my bum too, but I went on to others. Kubuntu, tho, is the best distro I've ever seen and I have spent serious time in 17 distros.07:57
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CreationistWell, I'm just so glad to be rid of Microsoft ... I only wish I could forsake Windows, but alas, I enjoy games too much (I'm not 30 yet, time to cling to my youth) ;)07:59
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CreationistWell, anywho... I just came in to complain incessantly about the devolopers of KMines before heading to bed :P.  Goodnight, everyone...08:00
ardchoillegood night Creationist08:00
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ubotuIt is spelt !guTSy :)08:10
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ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information08:10
ubotuKDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php08:10
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ardchoilleHere's another reason to love this distro: http://ardchoille.pastebin.us/4000608:14
ardchoilleI have konversation, konqueror, firefox, konsole, gkrellm, and kontact open08:15
heroand that's good?08:15
ardchoilleI'm not sure if that's a kubuntu things or a Linux thing but my memory usage isunder 40%08:15
ardchoille2Gb ram08:15
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hero!zope > hero08:25
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bazhangquick question: I just a bought a new computer with Vista (ugh) already installed; how do I boot up from the CD/DVD drive so I can install Kubuntu? I tried holding the 'C' key down, but Vista just keeps popping up--or is there a way to install from within Vista? Thanks!08:28
dsmithburn live CD08:29
Tm_Tbazhang: bios? you might like to have CD/DVD as your 1st boot device08:29
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dsmithoops I was going to say that tim08:29
Tm_Twho is tim?08:29
bazhangTm_T: will that work? so I would choose the CD drive as the Master?08:30
bazhangIs there a way to download a file that starts the install from within Vista, or after restart?08:30
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Tm_Tbazhang: not that I know08:31
Tm_Tbazhang: and I dont talk about master/slave08:31
Tm_Tbazhang: boot order != device order08:32
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bazhangTm_T: thanks...08:32
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bazhangdsmith: any ideas how to do that? I really need to get out of vista and into Kubuntu...08:35
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romuloohi people...08:53
romulooi need some help with mplayer in kubuntu 7.0408:54
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romulooi'm having two problems08:54
romuloo1. mplayer only works on line command08:55
romuloo2. the subtitle is very large08:55
romulooanybody can help me?08:55
DaSkreechbazhang: Press F11/F12 when booting up08:58
DaSkreechromuloo: Hmm?08:59
DaSkreechYou get subtitles on the ocmmand line?08:59
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romuloono, I only do mplayer file.avi09:00
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DaSkreechand that gives you a GUi09:01
ardchoilleromuloo: launch gmplayer09:01
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DaSkreechOr kmplayer09:02
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romulooit's my second problem09:03
romulooerror opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device09:03
romulooops... my first problem09:03
romuloothis message error always appears09:04
DaSkreechhave you read the help page for mplayer?09:04
DaSkreechOh I think I had that as well09:04
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DaSkreechI forget what caused it09:04
romulootry to remember :)09:04
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ardchoilleromuloo: You need to go into the mplayer options and change your video out device09:05
romulooi tried to modify the video driver to xv09:05
romuloobut not works09:05
ardchoilleTry a different one, there are several.09:05
romulooi'll try now...09:06
blekosguys i really need ur help. last night i did and update. The new kernel 2.6.22-13 was installed. One I try to boot from that kernel09:06
blekosi get the message kinit no resume image09:07
blekosbut when i boot from -12 everythings seems 2 work fine09:07
ardchoilleblekos: Gutsy help is in #ubuntu+109:07
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romulooi've tried all of them... not works =(09:09
FossZombieanyone else experiance the package manager taking way long after clicking a item to install?09:09
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ardchoilleromuloo: Don't you have to restart mplayer after switching video devices?09:11
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romuloodo you know how to decrease the subtitles size?09:11
ardchoilleno, I haven't used mplayer in a while09:11
romuloodo you know, DaSkreech?09:13
DaSkreech#mplayer maybe?09:13
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romuloogood idea.. i'm noob here :)09:14
romuloothanks, DaSkreech and ardchoille09:14
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anto_Heya, how do i change the slash screen on my computer when i try and use kdmtheme it says its not a valid slash theme but i downloaded it from www.kde-look.org09:24
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dsmithwhy do ppl ask a question then leave in 2 mins?09:27
Listenerhello to everybody! does anybody know how much memory eclipse requires for smooth working in kubuntu?09:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about eclipse - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:29
DaSkreechAs much as you can give it09:29
naught101My girlfriend's dell xps1210 laptop has just started dieing with no reason given about 1-1.5 minutes after entering kde09:29
naught101the screen suddenly goes blank (black), and then after another 15-20 secs, it shuts down09:30
naught101dsmith: it's plugged in09:30
dsmithnew install?09:30
naught101it's happened a few times to her, and twice for me09:30
naught101no, it's been on feisty since feisty came out09:30
Listener<ubotu> <DaSkreech>thanks09:30
dvnayandeis it possible to erase the whole tmp drive whenever you want?09:30
naught101She says she hasn't upgraded anything09:31
naught101dsmith: it's comeing out of hibernation09:31
dsmithi'm leaning towards hardware09:31
dsmithoh, hmmmmm09:32
naught101I'll try to shut it down before it dies09:32
dsmithtry not using hibernation for a while09:32
dsmithand see how it fares09:32
dsmithhibernation is hit or miss09:33
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naught101it wasn't possible - every time it died, it would restart out of hibernation... this time I sudo rebooted before it died.... might fix it09:33
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dsmithoh so you start initially09:33
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naught101hibernation is great for me09:34
dsmithand then hibernate it, then come out and it crashes?09:34
naught101no, it just started doing it this once, but it kept coming out of the same hibernation state, then dieing09:34
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dsmithI do not have enough exp. to make a suggestion at this time09:36
dsmithso its stuck in a loop09:36
coreymon77for some reason im still awake at 3:30 in the morning09:37
coreymon77and on irc for that matter09:37
Lynourenaught101: does it do it with live cd? with other OSes? (if it thought battery was near-empty, it would do something similar)09:37
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naught101Lynoure: haven;t tried yet, will if this fails09:37
naught101yeah, it's in a loop09:37
naught101it comes out of hibernation and immediately hibernates, I thinkk09:38
dsmithcoreymon77: welcome to the fold.. :)09:38
coreymon77dsmith: lol09:39
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DaSkreechI'll one up you09:41
DaSkreechI'm playing kobo and on irc09:41
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coreymon77DaSkreech: and what time is it?09:42
dsmith03:42 for mw09:42
dsmith..for me09:42
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coreymon77dsmith: same09:42
naught101seems like it's fixed... closed and re-opened the lid (for the hibernation switch) when it started up, and it shut down...09:42
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dsmithok cool09:43
blekosi'm looking for an external usb camera, and modem that prooved to work with ubuntu linux any suggestions?09:43
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sjckwhats better: 320kbps/mp3 or vbr/mp3? :)09:44
coreymon77DaSkreech: what time you got?09:44
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DaSkreechThis is insanely stupid09:45
dsmithwhats that?09:46
romuloDaSkreech and ardchoille: guys, just to tell how i fix the problem09:46
romulomplayer -fs -zoom -subfont-autoscale 2 -subfont-osd-scale 4 -subfont-text-scale 3 -subfont-blur 2 <name-of-file>.avi09:46
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DaSkreechthat looks like an alias waiting to happen09:47
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dsmithgridwars is a fun game09:49
waylandbillblekos: just about any new usb camera camera will do. They appear as external usb storage. Digikam probably has a list of cameras too.09:49
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Voker57What's the correct architecture for Intel Core Quad?09:51
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dsmithlarge square, drawn into quarters?09:53
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Tm_TDaSkreech: yes?10:01
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DaSkreechThis game is stupid hard10:03
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Tm_TDaSkreech: dont hate the game, hate the player10:06
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DaSkreechgood advice10:07
DaSkreechgood night10:07
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coreymon77goodnight everyone10:11
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bazhangthanks for the help everyone!10:23
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mark274838how do you change the login screen?10:36
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ardchoillemark274838: The easiest way is to use the kdmtheme module in kcontrol: sudo apt-get install kdmtheme10:37
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mark274838thats how you change all the login screens and themes?10:38
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ardchoillemark274838: That's the easiest way, unless you want to edit the files manually. Once it's installed open kcontrol and go to the System Administration section in kcontrol10:38
mark274838ok i typed that all in and now its installed10:40
mark274838but i cant find it...10:40
ardchoillemark274838: Now go to http://www.kde-look.org and find some nice kdm login themes. Once downloaded, unpack them into /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes. Open (or restart) kcontrol and select the new theme10:40
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ardchoillemark274838: The kdmtheme manager is a module in kcontrol, not system settings, it's in the System Admin section at the bottom.10:41
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mark274838oh i found it10:41
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mark274838ok well ill have to look at it tomorrow10:44
mark274838thanks dude10:44
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naught101compiz in kde: I have a "cube", and the rotation is working, but it's only go two sides.10:54
naught101my compiz has a plane instead of a cube...10:54
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naught101anybod know how to get it to look like a cube?10:55
humehi... I find that kubuntu feisty does not recognize an encrypted usb drive when I connect it, and prompt for password, as does Gnome and Xfce. Is there a way to have this function in kde?10:56
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z4nD4Rhi all11:18
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!11:18
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ardchoillehi ScorpKing11:31
ScorpKinghiya ardchoille. :)11:31
bazhangso when do they start phasing out the older releases like feisty, etc.?11:31
bazhangonce gutsy is released, that is..11:32
ScorpKingit's so quiet. :( isn't anyone breaking something?11:32
ardchoilleEach release, except the LTS releases, has 18 months of support, iirc11:32
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ardchoilleScorpKing: Been quiet for almost an hour11:33
ScorpKinghmmm. that suck11:34
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ardchoilleScorpKing: I want to put knoppix, sysresccd, kubuntu, ubuntu and DAL live cd's all on one dvd and be able to boot to a menu that allows you to choose which distro you want to run. Got any ideas about that?11:36
jussi01ScorpKing: I could break you... :P11:36
jussi01ScorpKing: this time on a sturday is always quiet11:37
ScorpKingardchoille: that could be usefull. let me think a sec...11:37
jussi01ardchoille: are they all debian based?11:37
ardchoillejussi01: Lemme check11:37
jussi01ardchoille: I dont think you could do it though...11:37
ardchoillejussi01: sysresccd is slackware based11:38
ardchoilleand sysresccd is gentoo based11:38
jussi01ardchoille: I cant see it happening11:38
ScorpKingardchoille: The Ultimate Boot CD use something like that. maybe you can have a look how they've done it.11:38
llutzardchoille: http://www.linux.com/articles/5292711:38
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ardchoilleThat linux.com article talks about a livecd maker that no longer exists11:41
ardchoilleScorpKing: Interesting: http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/customize.html11:42
ScorpKingheh, i have 9 seconds lag and can't follow links. i'll try tho. :(11:42
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ardchoilletalks about adding things to UBCD11:44
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ScorpKingyeah. i managed to follow that one but it's put me on 13s lag. hehe11:45
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ScorpKing1s lag :)11:47
yeniklasorrAre all ubuntu servers has latest and same packages11:47
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yeniklasorron adept11:48
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ScorpKingi think so. can't see why they won't.11:48
stdinthey all update from the main archive, some can be a few hours out of date11:48
yeniklasorrstdin thanks11:49
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:49
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ScorpKingthis is boring. :P bbl12:04
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roguejedixHey, can anyone tell me what's up with my apt-get? http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/72773812:05
snitch-why is it that everytime a accidentally turn the PC off without shuting it down, my kubuntu will have an error when i turned it on12:05
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snitch-any idea?12:06
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llutzsnitch-: because your filesystem need a clean shutdown, otherwise they may get damaged and have to be checked12:06
snitch-how to repair it?12:07
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llutzsnitch-:try to run fsck  and just don't "accidentally turn the PC off"12:07
snitch-ah ok12:08
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roguejedixEr, anyone?12:08
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roguejedixI kinda need the universe repo, too12:08
hollandlucas_any idea why they included open office instead of koffice in Kubuntu?12:08
Lynoureroguejedix: have not even looked at it yet...12:08
roguejedixOh, sorry12:09
Lynoureroguejedix: sometimes quoting the error message you get alongside the pastebin url speeds the response :)12:09
stdinroguejedix: try removing all the files in /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/  "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/*" then run "sudo apt-get update" again12:10
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roguejedixLynoure: I know, but I figured with error messages that long it might qualify as flooding12:12
roguejedixstdin: It worked, thanks! What did I do, anyway?12:12
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stdinroguejedix: sometimes the download has a bad block, and when you try to redownload it tries to resume (not good if the bit you have is bad). so you removed that partial download to start a fresh12:14
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ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 12:17
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roguejedixstdin: That makes sense. My ISP's DNS servers went down yesterday when I was updating12:18
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mfonz85hi all, is there any1??12:35
pag!hi | mfonz8512:36
ubotumfonz85: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!12:36
RivaeAeryahow do i set dolphin as default file manager?12:36
mfonz85hi all guys ;-)12:36
mfonz85does any1 knows a bit how to configure anjuta IDE??12:37
pagRivaeAerya, kcontrol ->  search for file accosiations -> inode -> folder12:37
pags/folder/directory/  :)12:37
mfonz85because i'm having the compile error "gtk/gtk.h no such file or directory"12:38
mfonz85and I don't know how to conf anjuta for adding the gtk library :-(12:39
stdintried installing the package?12:39
MetaMorfoziSmfonz85 > try sudo apt-get build-dep anjuta12:40
stdini mean for anjuta12:40
RivaeAeryapag: hey, that worked :)12:40
RivaeAeryapag: and that makes it the default for everything?12:40
MetaMorfoziSthis gets and installs the dependancies of anjuta (that needs for compilation)12:40
stdinRivaeAerya: in kde, yeah12:40
mfonz85yep, all the gtk dev libs installed with adept12:40
MetaMorfoziSmfonz85 > ^^12:40
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stdinmfonz85: have you tried installing anjuta package, "sudo apt-get install anjuta" ?12:40
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mfonz85trying right now ^^12:41
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mfonz85sorry guys maybe it is a stupid noob question but I apologize with you, i'm very new in the linux world ;-)12:42
mfonz85meanwhile the konsole is working...12:42
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stdinyou should only compile applications as a last resort, if there are no packages available12:43
mfonz85same error: gtk/gtk.h not found :-(12:44
stdinmfonz85: after you install the anjuta package it's already installed. you don't need to compile it12:44
stdinmfonz85: look in the KMenu12:44
slackernmfonz85: these installed ? http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=gtk.h&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=feisty&arch=i38612:45
mfonz85I forgot...i'm trying to compile the auto-generated code of anjuta of a C project in GTK12:45
mfonz85no no guys...anjuta is already installed and working ;-)12:45
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stdinoh ok :)12:45
mfonz85everything fine12:45
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mfonz85but I cant compile anything into it :-(12:45
stdintry installing libgtk2.0-dev and libgtk1.2-dev then12:45
aljoschahello, how can i change the target from /dev/cdrom ?12:46
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mfonz85already done yesterday...installed them with adept, is it ok isn't it??12:46
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mfonz85but now...the problem i think is with the conf of the project...someway i have to tell anjuta with some linker flags where to find the gtk libraries....12:48
aljoschahi, /dev/cdrom ist pointed to hdd, but i want to change it to hdc - how can i do it?12:48
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stdinmfonz85: try asking in #anjuta12:50
mfonz85there's any1 :-(12:50
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mfonz85by the way, tnx 4 the help12:51
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zekehello all12:51
zekewhat is the software source for libxine-extracodecs in feisty...I can't seem to install them in gutsy12:52
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stdinzeke: the package is libxine1-ffmpeg in gutsy12:53
arashHi, is it only me or does the seach function in Konqueror not work? The results are not explained12:53
HiGenixHey guys, how do I make a program run when I log in? Where do I have to put the shortcut to the program?12:53
zekeI have that installed, but I still can't play mp3 in amarok or hear anything on movies in kaffeine12:54
stdin!autostart | HiGenix12:54
ubotuHiGenix: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.12:54
stdinzeke: well, that is the package that plays mp3s12:54
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zekehmmm...I'll try it again...12:55
HiGenixThanks ubotu/stdin. :)12:55
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zekehoo ha....silly me...pcm volume was muted12:59
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caguvahola mundo01:00
zekenow do you know how to get louder playback from files in acidrip?01:00
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stdinI don't use acidrip, so no01:01
stdin!es | caguva01:01
ubotucaguva: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.01:01
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zekehmmm...I think it might have something to do with the gain option in the audio tab, but I'm not sure01:01
zekeI like to back up my investments01:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kaffeine - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:02
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arashzeke, could you listen to several applications making sound before, if not, the problem might be that some program uses the sound output, blocking the others01:05
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=== uga wonders why gutsy includes RC apps... no matter how beta gutsy is, it's supposed to be released in short
ugaplanning a distro stable release with release candidate apps doesn't sound like a good idea01:08
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stdinuga: how many linux apps do you think aren't even at version 1.0 yet?01:10
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ugastdin: one thing is a non 1.0. Another thing is a pre-release01:10
ugalike gimp for example01:10
ugathere's stable releases01:10
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ugawhy push 1.4 RC01:10
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ugait's not meant to be used. If you ask in #gimp-devel or whatever, sure they say "use at your own risk"01:11
stdinbecause people demand it, and it's a chance to test it01:11
ugaheh, testing is good in an alpha release, not for a stable. But hey, that's up to kubuntu maintainer's01:11
stdinubuntu's actually, kubuntu maintainers have little say over non-kde apps01:12
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zekeit's not that...I got that fixed...It's just that personally owned movies that I back up using acidrip have very low playback volume01:14
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ugastdin: heh, right01:22
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GuHHHcan anyone help me? i can't unzip a file: http://paste.debian.net/3893301:29
ugaGuHHH: it's either a broken zip file, or not a zip file at all01:29
ugaGuHHH: try "file filename.zip"01:30
zekeso if I'm running a 32bit os on a 64bit processor, can I run a 64bit os using..say...vmware etc...?01:30
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ugazeke: uhm... I believe it's possible, but not too sure01:30
zekejust have to try it?01:31
stdinI don't think you can't run a 64bit virtual machine on a 32bit OS01:31
ugaI have the 64bit version here, so I can't tell, sorry01:31
zekeI'll just try it out and make a post somewhere if it works...not getting my hopes up though01:32
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GuHHHuga: i tried rename it to iso, but it says itsnt a iso9660 file ;/01:32
ugaGuHHH: have you tried "file filename.zip" yet?01:33
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GuHHHuga: uphuck_10.4.9_v1.4i_r3.iso.zip: data01:33
ugastdin: when I tried running a 64bit os on 32bit machine it actually didn't work (obviously), but it was checking for the cpu support iirc, rather than os support01:33
ugastdin: I don't see why vista 32 for example can't run linux 6401:34
uga(as far as the cpu is 64bit)01:34
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ugazeke: heh sure. let us know01:34
ugaGuHHH: that's not a zip file01:34
stdinuga: I'm thinking no because the the guest OS will try sending 64bit requests to the 32bit kernel (square peg, round hole scenario)01:35
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ugaGuHHH: try "less uphuck....iso.zip" it may contain text?01:35
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GuHHHuga: nothing01:36
ugastdin: I believe cpu executions run stright though, pass through01:36
ugastdin: else the vm would be too slow01:36
stdinuga: no, goes through a kernel driver, has to01:36
zekewell, it is an AMD, if it has any chance of working at all...01:36
ugastdin: bet a coffee? =)01:36
ugazeke: ouch =)01:36
stdinuga: yep :)01:36
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ugaGuHHH: nothing? what's the file size.01:37
ugaGuHHH: it sounds like you got a corrupt file01:37
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GuHHHuga: i download it through torrent, i found it hard to be corrupted01:38
ugamaybe the source file was corrupt01:38
ugaor it's some newer "zip" format01:38
ugawasn't there a zip7 or zip9?01:38
ugastrange that less doesn't show anything though01:38
ugaand that file doesn't recognise the file type01:38
stdinunless it's a partial download01:39
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ugastdin: "But will it also run my 64-bit VM inside a 32-bit host? Point, click, launch.Believe it or not, it is working! I will post a screenshot tomorrow as I do not have access"01:41
ugastdin: so where do I pick up my coffee? :P01:42
ugafrom this forum http://blogs.msdn.com/volkerw/archive/2005/11/02/488540.aspx01:42
stdinuga: I'll get you a cyber coffee ;)01:42
ugaI expected that anyway. it can just use the vmware driver to push any command straight to the cpu01:43
ugaand it can be both 32 bit and 64bit ready01:43
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ugastdin: lol01:43
ugazeke: newer amd cpus only are meant to support vmware 64 bit. What's the age of your cpu?01:43
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ugaall intels seem to, thanks to the virtualisation specific ops01:44
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ugazeke: btw, have I met you before? that nick... kde?01:44
zekeummm..no telling...I just got the comp a few days ago, but there's no telling how long it's been on display at the local radioshack01:44
ugaor maybe it was zecke01:44
zekemight have been me01:44
ugathat guy was a kde-dev, iirc01:45
zekeit had...gasp...vista on it...took that off and threw on xp purely for music writing purposes01:45
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zekevista's alright for the average consumer who has lots of time to wait...or big bucks to get a proper computer01:47
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zekeI have neither01:47
hollandlucaszeke: vista's not alright01:48
ugawell, I have a proper computer now, but vista won't touch it ;)01:48
zekenotice I said average consumer...01:49
zekewe are the cream of the crop here01:49
hollandlucasthe "average consumer" should use XP (if he/she *has to* use Windows)01:49
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zekewell I "have to" since the emu10k2 driver isn't yet compatible with linux01:50
zekethough I wish it was01:50
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zekeI'd drom MS like a hot potato01:50
hollandlucasI don't use Windows ;-01:50
hollandlucasonly Linux + OS X01:50
ugaheh, O-S-Ucks01:52
zekeyeah...I use it purely for music writing purposes...otherwise it would be 7.10 all the way01:52
ugaI'll never forget my first experience with it, trying to burn a music CD. Being unable, and going back to my linux laptop, use cdrecord...01:52
hollandlucasuga: that's not a problem with the OS01:52
ugait was too complex01:52
hollandlucasuga: you were just used to doing it differently01:53
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ugahollandlucas: well, I thought... okay, osx is great, no burning apps, so, it must be easy... drag and drop to the CD01:53
ugawell, no, didn't work01:53
hollandlucasuga: you can burn CDs with OS X01:53
hollandlucaswithout any extra apps01:53
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zekeI have some hardware being delivered...my old comp is going to become a new mythbox01:53
ugahow am I supposed to guess taht I need to open a music playing app to burn a CD???01:54
hollandlucasRight click -> New Burn Folder -> Drag all your files in there and press burn01:54
zekeyou can do that with xp too01:54
ugahollandlucas: I tried for 20 mins or so01:54
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ugathen I'm told you do that through iTunes, now01:54
ugastupid os...01:54
hollandlucasuga: OS X is my favourite OS01:54
ugahollandlucas: it's only ready for geeks though. for very skilled computer users ;P01:55
zekeI was going to use my mom's old old comp for the mythbox, but it turned out to be grossly inadequate01:55
hollandlucasthe opposite is true01:55
hollandlucasmy mum uses OS X01:55
zekedell xps m400s01:55
hollandlucasand she used to use XP01:55
hollandlucasshe says OS X feels more intuitive01:55
hollandlucasand she's by far not a geek ;-)01:55
zeke225mhz processor with 32mb ram01:55
ugaheh, a bit limited, yes =)01:56
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ugahollandlucas: trying to DoS me through ctcp-pings?01:56
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hollandlucasuga: yes01:57
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zekedoes DSL have a 64bit version?01:57
hollandlucaszeke: as far as I know: no01:57
hollandlucasno mention of a 64-bit version on their site01:57
ugazeke: dsl? is that a proggie?01:59
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ugazeke: all 32bit linux apps I tried here work out of the box01:59
ugaon 64bit01:59
uga(and 64bit os)01:59
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zekedamn small linux02:00
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ugaah heh02:00
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ugazeke: "Damn Small Linux has been demonstrated on a system with a 233Mhz processor with 16mb of Memory"02:02
ugayou're on the edge with a 225 32MB02:02
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ubuntu_hoz do i get to the xorg fileM02:07
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stdinwhat file ?02:07
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stdinthe config file or what?02:07
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ubuntu_the file it self by doind kdesu --kqte /.../xorg02:08
stdinxorg.conf is in /etc/X1102:09
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FahuadaiCan someone please tell me how to modify my system menu button so i can add a sub menu on the /home folder.  ie.  /home/pictures  &  /home/music02:10
ubuntu_stdin: does running a live cd tells u the default of the horizontal and vertical of your screen02:11
stdinubuntu_: I have a laptop here, it only has one02:11
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zekevmware tells me I need IIS to work02:12
ubuntu_stdin: i; on a cd-live the xorg file is not showing wen i do kdesu --kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:13
stdinubuntu_: it's "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf"  not --kate02:13
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ubuntu_stdin: my display is 1280x784 how do i get it back to 1280x102402:16
ubuntu_got to go02:18
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ugaFahuadai: heh, I can't find out where the menu is, myself, either02:24
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ugaFahuadai: it's possibly not in your /home. I tried grepping through the whole .kde and I didn't find those entries. one of them ought to be system:/02:29
ugaor rather, contain it02:29
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arashHi, is it only me or does the search function in Konqueror not work? There never are results found, can I search on NTFS drives?02:49
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crackhead_25question: i have a lacie external hard drive ntfs. i was trying to setup fstab so that i could read and write to this ext hd with ntfs-3g, instead of typical ntfs. i went to fstab and added a line which described sdb1, the device node for it.. it was already mounting.. i created a new dir in the media folder for that device node with ntfs-3g.. the directory was there. however, neither that directory nor the original lacie ext folder02:54
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crackhead_25shows any folders/files/data from the ext hd now.. although it did before.. thoughts?02:54
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Bauldrickanyone help me setup cedega on 64bit? I have it running and it 'appears' to install games, but I get an error when trying to run them02:55
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BluesKajHowdy All :)03:12
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caoticHi there!03:23
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caoticI am looking for someone to explain me about python language, to know how to install, and use the scripts on python.03:23
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about python - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:26
Jucatocaotic: try ##python (or #python )03:26
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tomihow to install mp3 support for amarock ?03:29
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:29
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Kubuntudoes anyone have an idea why my wireless device suddenley isn't detected?03:32
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Kubuntuit works fine when i boot up with the live cd but when i boot up with my harddrive there is no recognition?03:32
cj_does iwconfig show it?03:33
cj_or ifconfig03:33
emilsedgh!wifi | Kubuntu03:33
ubotuKubuntu: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:33
Kubuntuafter a hd boot when i open system settings -> network settings the only thing showing is etho03:36
Kubuntubut using the live cd both etho and atho come up03:36
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martinusHi, has anyone managed to fix bug #131133 here?03:38
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Kubuntuthanks for the wifidocs i'll giveit a shot03:39
Jucatowhat bug would that be?03:40
stdinLaunchpad bug 131133 in dell "[gutsy]  no sound on Dell Latitude D630/D830/Precision M4300/Vostro 1500/1700 pci id 8086:284b" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13113303:40
RivaeAeryaI have a question: I use my PC for watching media, playing music, browsing the interwebs, doing schoolwork, playing games, taking notes, (maybe) listening to radio's, downloading from torrents, chatting on MSN, seeking guitar tabs on the internet, drawing on the computer, reading e-books, checking news about my favorite topics, maintaining my website (a wordpress blog), and playing flash games. Now, my question is: what are good03:41
RivaeAeryaapplications for KDE for all those tasks?03:41
tomiare u using kubuntu 7.04?03:42
JucatoRivaeAerya: kaffeine, amarok, konqueor (or firefox if you want), what kind of school work? what kind of games? basket, amarok, ktorrent, kopete, dunno, Krita/GIMP/Inkscape, kpdf, akregator/knode, quanta/konqueror, konqueror03:42
RivaeAeryaFeisty Fawn03:42
JucatoRivaeAerya: not all of those are KDE apps03:42
tomiwell u have akmost all of them included03:42
Jucatoand I followed the order in which you asked them03:42
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emilsedghthere are a few applications for guitar tabs, kguitar os something like this, search on kde-apps.org RivaeAerya03:43
heroif you disable the border in the advanced options of a window's title bar, how do you get it back?03:43
Jucatooh I misread, "seeking guitar tabs" = browsing the internet = konqueror03:44
RivaeAeryaJucato: School work: Reports of films, homework, my portfolio, and more. Games: adventure, RPG, and puzzle games.03:44
Jucatohero: press Alt+F3 to get the menu03:44
emilsedghRivaeAerya: if you want KDE Games, games.kde.org :)03:44
JucatoRivaeAerya: schoolwork = koffice or openoffice.org03:44
Jucatofor games.. lots of those.03:44
Jucatobut not all are KDE apps anyway03:44
heroJucato: can you disable the scrollbar in xchat, but still have functionality (for instance, be able to scroll with mouse wheel or page up/down)?03:45
Jucatohero: don't know. I don't use xchat...03:45
herojust thought i'd ask since #xchat is idle03:45
Jucatotry Ubuntu... although the version of xchat in ubuntu is gnome-ified I think03:46
RivaeAeryaJucato: okay :) my website is a Wordpress blog, hosted on wordpress.com. I place photo's on there, youtube video's of my favorite music, and misc youtube video's. What program is good for that one?03:46
JucatoKonqueror = web browser03:46
JucatoFirefox too (not KDE)03:46
herothe xchat that is not xchat-gnome is superior03:47
Jucatolike I said, I don't use it :)03:47
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RivaeAeryaJucato: what do you use?03:47
RivaeAeryaJucato: firefox behaves weirdly for me03:47
Jucatofor all those you described03:48
Jucatoexcept that WP (not .com) in konqueror acts a bit funky03:48
RivaeAeryayeah, true03:48
Jucatobut I still use it :)03:48
BonBonTheJonI'm having a problem with Gutsy and NVIDIA binary drivers, I ran nvidia-xconfig, xorg.conf says I'm using nvidia, but the NVIDIA control center says I'm not using the nvidia drivers. Any ideas?03:48
arashalternatives to Kghostview (for pdf)?, It seems like Kghostview won't zoom and for some reason03:49
Jucatokpdf for pdf03:49
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Jucatokghostview is actually a postscript (ghostcript) viewer...03:50
ceaddaheya folks03:50
ceaddaanyone here ever use/tru Wubi?03:50
arashJucato, ah, works fine! thanks03:52
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martinusBonBonTheJon: under driver in xorg.conf, does it say nv or nvidia?03:58
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ombra85Ho kubuntu Gutsy ed ho aggiornato il kernel a 2.6.22-13 ed ho avuto dei problemi che sono comparsi anche nel kernel 2.6.22-12:04:02
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ombra85 cio quando riavvio mi reinstallo dirver nvidia e ed  ok, entro senza dovermi loggare.Quando esco per forza col termina sessione crasha x ed al riavvio non parte x04:04
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ombra85Non parte perch dice che i driver ed i moduli non hanno la stessa versione04:04
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ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!04:04
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ombra85Excuse me!04:04
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romuloardchoille... still here? :) you don't like sleep?04:18
silveira_netopeople, I have a camera device plugged in my USB. When I type 'lsusb' I Got "Bus 001 Device 002: ID 07b4:0109 Olympus Optical Co., Ltd". KDE recognizes it but fail to mount it. In Gnome it works fine. How can I mount it by comand line?04:18
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DexterFsomeone using amaranths compiz-fusion? installed here but don't get any effetcs.04:20
DexterFps ax shows compize --replace running, but nothing04:21
DexterFfree ati driver, used to work with older version04:21
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sahin_hsilveira_neto: type cat /proc/partitions to see what is the device name of your usb card04:22
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sahin_hsilveira_neto: Maybe /dev/sda1 or /dev/sdb1 ...04:22
sahin_hsilveira_neto: If you got the correct device name type:04:23
sahin_hsilveira_neto: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt04:23
sahin_hsilveira_neto: /dev/sdb1 is just an example...04:23
llutzas user use: pmount /dev/sdXY04:24
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sahin_hllutz: Yep, I'm an old fashined guy. ;-)04:24
llutzsahin_h: me too, but pmount has some advantages so i learn to use this modern stuff ;)04:25
sahin_hSorry, so I'm an old-fashioned guy04:25
sahin_hllutz: I'm going to learn more about this pmount.04:26
silveira_netostrange, all my devices in /proc/partitions are hdc, hdc1 ... nothing like sda104:26
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llutzsilveira_neto: then that Olympus isn't recognized as mass-storage device04:27
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sahin_hsilveira_neto: Yes, that's the problem.04:27
silveira_netollutz, but gnome does it.04:27
sahin_hsilveira_neto: Try to use digikam to recognize your camera.04:28
silveira_netoI'll try now04:28
sahin_hsilveira_neto: My Canon EOS350 not recognized as usb mass storage, however I can download my images with digikam.04:29
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llutzsahin_h: common Canon issue04:29
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sahin_hllutz: This isn't a bug, this is a feature! You know... ;-)04:29
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caris_mereI'm having difficulties using my cdrom...it says "could not read"04:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cdrom - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:32
jMerliNgay ubot04:32
silveira_netoKDe tries to open my camera in Konqueror with "camera://Olympus X-450@[usb:001,003] /"04:33
silveira_netoand fail04:33
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momalAnyone here happen to know of a command line id3 (mp3) tag editor? need it to support utf-8 and parameters on it to edit the tags04:34
caris_mereWhat would be a reason why my cdrom can find the title of the cd and info, but can't read it?04:34
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llutzmomal: id3tag04:34
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ardchoilleromulo: Sleep? What's that?04:35
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zekehoo ha04:35
silveira_netoops, Digikam now worked \o/ \o/ \o/ !!04:35
momalllutz: thanks will try it out04:36
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zekeyou CAN run a 64bit os on VMWare from a 32bit os04:36
ardchoilleScorpKing: I agree04:36
romuloardchoille: hahaha... did you see the solution for my problem with mplayer?04:36
ScorpKinghehe :D04:36
ardchoilleromulo: No, what was it?04:36
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romulothe vo device problem wasn't fixed, but the subtitle size... see:04:38
Kubuntucan anyone help me "claim" my wireless card?04:38
romuloardchoille: mplayer -fs -zoom -subfont-autoscale 2 -subfont-osd-scale 4 -subfont-text-scale 3 -subfont-blur 2 <name-of-file>.avi04:39
waylandbillKubuntu: tell the world it is yours and noone else's ;-)04:40
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Kubuntui've allready tried that!04:41
ardchoilleromulo: wow!04:41
boliardoes anybody uses a cable modem and the connection with it is from the USB port???04:41
waylandbillboliar: is that all your isp offers? sometimes you can ask for an ethernet one.04:42
Kubuntuthe thing is when i "lshw" it says that the network:0 is UNCLAIMED04:42
boliarbut I need to use the usb option04:42
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boliarI can use the ethernet, but it is used by another computer04:43
boliarso the USB port is for the second04:43
Kubuntumy wireless works booting up from the live cd, but not from the hdrive04:43
llutzboliar: buy a $5 hub/switch04:43
boliaron windows PC's it works with  this kind of conn.04:43
boliarthis is not an option04:44
ScorpKingcat /var/log/messages | grep suspend - say - Usage: grep [OPTION] ... PATTERN [FILE] ... - wtf?04:44
waylandbillboliar: why do you /need/ to use the usb? if the ethernet dsl modem doesn't have more than one port, you just attach a hub to it and all ethernet computers can use the connection all at the same time.04:44
boliarthe usb port has static IP04:44
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boliarand the other too04:44
llutzScorpKing: grep -i suspend /var/log/messages       (useless use of cat)04:44
waylandbillboliar: so use a router instead of a hub an the router will give you dhcp addresses.04:44
boliarwaylandbill: I know for that, but the one port is used for the server pc04:45
ScorpKingllutz: ty. :)04:45
boliarwaylandbill: and the other is used for DC++ server04:45
boliarwaylandbill: but they will be not real addresses04:45
boliarthats the problem04:45
waylandbillboliar: port forward the wan address to the internal address. most routers easily allow this04:46
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Kubuntupls help?04:47
boliarI will make it with port forwarding04:47
boliarbut I wanted to know can I connect it true USB04:47
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shadowhywinddoes anyone know of a commandline version of AIM?04:51
llutzshadowhywind: messenger? finch04:51
shadowhywindyah, will look into finch04:51
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shadowhywindso finch is just gaim/pidgin then?04:53
llutzshadowhywind: yep, cmdline-pidgin04:53
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shadowhywindvery nice, do you know if finch has the same functionallity as pidgin (aka plugins and stuff)04:54
llutzshadowhywind: sry, no idea04:54
shadowhywindok, guess i will just have to install it and find out, hehe, worst case i just have to remove the package04:55
llutzthat's how it goes04:55
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delagrandyhow do I configure samba to work with xp04:56
delagrandyanyone here04:56
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ubunturos!samba | delagrandy04:57
ubotudelagrandy: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT04:57
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shadowhywindwhat is the command to install a .deb package from the commandline?04:59
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llutzshadowhywind: dpkg -i package.deb05:00
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shadowhywindthanks! some how i can't seam to find finch in apt, so i had download the package instead05:01
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blekoshi, how i can use CNR with ubuntu?05:01
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ardchoilleshadowhywind: Have you checked the repos to see if that package is there before manually installing it?05:02
emilsedghblekos: what you want to do?05:02
shadowhywindi did and it can't find it, But searching the webpage repo list it says that it is in there05:02
ardchoilleshadowhywind: Ah, ok. Good job in checking the repos first.05:03
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blekosgood question, I am under the impression that i could have access to more programs05:07
ardchoilleenable the universe and multiverse repos and there's tons of stuff :)05:08
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Doctor_Nickill enable you05:09
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jMerliNhow do i set the default web application?05:11
bazhangjMerliN: as in not Konqueror?05:11
JucatoSystem Settings -> Default Applications (only KDE apps obey these settings)05:12
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ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:14
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STRALISBuongiorno a tutti ragazzi05:15
jMerliNbazhang: yes05:15
jussi01!it | STRALIS05:15
ubotuSTRALIS: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!05:15
STRALISun nuovo kubuntiano (nella cacca) tra voi05:15
jMerliNi uninstalled konqueror and now i want firefox to be the default05:15
STRALISops sorry05:15
ardchoillejMerliN: What are you using for a file manager?05:16
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jussi01jMerliN: system settings -> default applications05:17
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bazhangroger: hi!05:18
rogerI've been trying to mount a usb key. Not having any luck05:19
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ardchoilleWhat's the name of the twin-pane file manager for kde? I thought it was kommander but that's the wrong name05:19
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ardchoilleThat's it, thanks llutz05:20
jMerliNardchoille: dolphin05:20
ardchoillejMerliN: Ah, ok.05:21
niyadotengo dos particiones en un disco duro de 80gb, la mitad para kubuntu 7.10 y ubuntu 7.04, como puedo hacer para borrar una de esas dos particiones??05:21
Jucato!ies | niyado05:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ies - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:21
llutz!es | niyado05:21
ubotuniyado: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:21
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ceritusso can anyone help me with my wireless card? i've been through the wiki but can't seem to solve the problem05:23
strog_how can i format a HD that has like 3 partitions05:23
strog_the filesystem should be FAT3205:23
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jMerliNam about to download steam and play cs on here lol :P05:26
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ceritusso can anyone help me with my wireless card? i've been through the wiki but can't seem to solve the problem05:27
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HELPHi, could somebody help me?05:28
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HELPPlease, I'm getting 'NTLDR is missing' error.05:29
llutzHELP: ask in #windows05:29
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HELP09The problem is that I dual booted with KDE and XP05:30
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HELP09and I tried to format the ext3 partition on xp05:30
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boliarhi, why it gives me this http://pastebin.com/d6714fe31 when I am trying to compile kernel ?05:32
boliarI have made menuconfiguring but it can give to celan it05:32
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tom1502hi, kann mir jemand helfen amarok zujm mp3 abspielen zu bewegen?05:44
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ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:44
stdin!de | tom150205:45
ubotutom1502: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de05:45
tom1502oh, sry, sure... thought i've joined the germand channel05:45
tom1502well, how can i get amarok to play mp3?05:45
llutz!mp3 | tom150205:45
ubotutom1502: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:45
ubotu   #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke05:46
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BluesKajtom1502, sudo aptitude install libxine1-ffmpeg05:46
bazhangstdin: what's the command for mongolian?05:47
tom1502ah, ffmepg05:47
bazhangsorry for the ot.05:47
stdinbazhang: not sure05:47
tom1502feel like a beginner with KDE05:47
stdindon'r know if there is one bazhang05:47
BluesKajtom1502, or libxine-extracodecs05:47
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tom1502i've already installed those05:47
BluesKajtom1502, what version of kubuntu ?05:48
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BluesKajok libxine1-ffmpeg is the one05:49
tom1502amarok doesnt play mp305:49
BluesKajtom1502, logout and in again05:49
Jucatotom1502: installed "libxine-extracodecs" already?05:49
tom1502Jucato yes05:50
Jucatotry restarting amarok?05:50
tom1502oh, logout?105:50
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tom1502compiz sholdnt hav4e influence on this05:50
Jucatono it shouldn't.05:50
bazhangstdin: there isn't but there is one on (bug #1) haha05:50
Jucatotom1502: have you tried restaring amarok?05:50
Jucatoand still doesn't work after that?05:51
tom1502ill be back in a second, just logout and login again...05:51
ksivajiis there any risk in upgrading from feisty to gusty ?05:51
llutzksivaji: sure, gutsy is still beta05:52
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ksivajiho ...05:52
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tom1502still doesnt work :(05:54
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tom1502anyone an idea?05:54
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BluesKajok tom1502, do you see the tune in the playlist and you just aren't getting any sound ?05:55
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tom1502nope, i've got the welcome track and to mp3 files in the list. it plays the welcome thing, and if i press next it jumps to mp3#1, mp3#2 and then ends05:56
tom1502but the welcome thing works05:56
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pagtom1502, sorry for being sceptical, but what does " apt-cache policy libxine-extracodecs " return?05:57
pag!hi | jMerliN05:58
ubotujMerliN: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!05:58
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tom1502may i paste the few lines here?05:58
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pag!paste | tom150205:58
ubotutom1502: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:58
tom1502yeah i know05:58
tom1502thats why i asked05:58
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tom1502looks quite good to me05:59
pagtom1502, it does. try installing " libxine1-ffmpeg " too..06:00
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tom1502already installed06:00
tom1502version 1.1.4-2...06:00
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BluesKajdoesn't look right to me tom150206:01
tom1502whats the matter?06:01
BluesKajit should name the application06:01
tom1502u mean the first line?06:02
tom1502libxine-... : ??06:02
tom1502didnt copy thatone06:02
pagtom1502, is amarok using xine engine? (settings -> engines)06:02
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tom1502already checked that06:02
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pagtom1502, did you install those packages manually, or via somekind of metapackage?06:03
tom1502well, the extracodecs package06:03
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tom1502via the tool - adept?!06:03
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tom1502(only remebe synaptics from GNOME... or emerge ^^)06:04
BeyerAny ideas how to get the goddamn linux notice my mp3player... It's Creative Zen Vision M, 30gb06:04
BluesKaj!language | Beyer06:05
ubotuBeyer: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.06:05
BluesKajBeyer, usb connect ?06:05
BeyerOh... sorry for the christian people.06:05
tom1502no ideas anyone?06:05
pagtom1502, you could try re-installing those packages.. "sudo apt-get remove libxine-extracodecs libxine1-ffmpeg; sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs libxine1-ffmpeg"06:05
tom1502lets see06:06
tom1502no success06:06
pagBeyer, gnomad2 could work..06:07
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tom1502ok, thx anyway... gotta go now06:07
BluesKajBeyer, have you checked System Menu/Storage Media06:07
shadowhywindanyone know how to fix Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory messages?06:08
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jpg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:13
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poison--how can i preview pics with konquie?06:13
ardchoillepoison--: View > Preview06:14
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poison--dat i know... but it only shows a grey pic06:14
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ardchoillepoison--: I don't know then.. it shows pics here but I turned it off.06:15
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about konqueror - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:17
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ubuntu__i have na problem with an encrypted root install!where should i go for help?06:17
ubuntu__my system decrypted my root but then waits06:18
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ubotuSo, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.06:19
stdindon't mess with ubotu, he's in a bad mood :p06:20
Jucatoah but it doesn't know anything about something....06:20
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bsmhi, I'm using gutsy with latest updates and cannot run openoffice.org06:21
ardchoillestdin: That's due to lack of botsnacks06:21
ardchoillebsm: join #ubuntu+106:22
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!06:22
stdinfor being a good bot06:22
Jucato!helpersnack | stdin06:22
ubotustdin: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!06:22
LjLthat one's lame :P06:22
stdin!opsnack | Jucato06:22
ubotuJucato: Chocolate!  And Peanuts!06:22
llutzwatch you cholesterol!06:23
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about share - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:28
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trogdordamn there actually people here06:38
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BluesKajheh, don't damn us if you want help :)06:39
trogdorI was wondering about these new effects features in kde406:39
neil_kubuntuHello all06:39
trogdorwhat exactly is that all about?06:39
stdin^they aren't people, just convincing robots06:39
ubotuKDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php06:40
trogdorstdin: exactly! I see bot people >,>06:40
neil_kubuntuI am trying to install SynCE, so that I can sync my WM6 device with Kubuntu, and have been told that I need to "In your Linux kernel, make sure you have enabled usbserial, ipaq, and PPP support for async serial ports."06:40
trogdorBluesKaj: nah in relation to compiz-fusion, they adding some of that code into kde4?06:40
neil_kubuntuWould anyone be able to point me in the right direction, please?06:40
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BluesKajtrogdor, dunno I haven't explored KDE4 all that much06:41
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trogdorneil_kubuntu: if its there then its enabled, compile your own kernel if you don't want stuff enabled06:41
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neil_kubuntutrogdor - so I should (somehow) check my kernel, to see if those modules are present? If they are, then, it should be enabled?06:42
trogdorBluesKaj: I thought it was kinda a joke seeing as compiz fusion is very bulky and unstable so far still in development. I mean kde already a coupling mess06:42
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BluesKajtelling ppl to compile their own kernel is abit of overkill, trogdor06:42
trogdorneil_kubuntu: just try it see if it works, I dunno where you would check for that stuff06:42
trogdorBluesKaj: I told him not to, he said he wanted to06:43
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BluesKajanyway , naptime for me06:43
trogdorneil_kubuntu: which kernel you using? "uname -r"06:43
neil_kubuntutrogdor - dmesg isn't printing the information which the guide I am religiously following shows, so, my guess is that it is not enabled yet06:43
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trogdorneil_kubuntu: usbserial- flash sticks, ipaq- no clue, ppp- dial up stuff06:44
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neil_kubuntuThanks, trogdor - the modules are used to establish communications to a Windows Mobile device06:45
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neil_kubuntuipaq is the module for WM handhelds, I think06:45
trogdorneil_kubuntu: I found this article about ipaq http://www.handhelds.org/handhelds-faq/handhelds-faq.html sounds awesome06:45
neil_kubuntuThanks, trogdor- much appreciated. Looks like I should Google each of the modules independently06:46
trogdorneil_kubuntu: try doing updatedb as root then locate ipaq see if you find anything on your system related to that06:46
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neil_kubuntutrogdor- just fyi, that guide is for running Linux on an iPAQ, rather than syncing an iPAQ with Linux - however, interesting stuff anyway :)06:48
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robinsonhey, guys. Just did a clean install of 7.10 beta on my laptop06:51
robinsonanyone having an issue with the volume control not actually lowering the volume?06:51
robinsonit shows it graphically going down, but i have to open the mixer and turn down the PCM channel instead06:51
stdin#ubuntu+1 is for gutsy help06:51
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minuohhi, is there a way safely downgrade to feisty? in gutsy my wireless stopped working and resume from suspend crashes all the time...07:02
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pag!downgrade | minuoh07:04
stdin!downgrade | minuoh07:04
ubotuminuoh: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.07:04
stdinwho won?07:05
minuohok.,... what could be a reason for wireless networks stop showing in knetworkmanager? i still can see them in wifi-radar07:05
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stdinminuoh: #ubuntu+1 is the gutsy support channel07:05
navetshelp: how do I burn a cd iso on a dvd? is it even possible?07:06
minuohok, general question: is there a way to work with wifi from console?07:07
Zombinenavets you just do it.  Most burn apps will let you.07:07
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navetsZombine: will it work with k3b? also will it work as if it was a iso CD?07:07
stdinnavets: just choose to burn a DVD ISO from k3b07:07
dthackerminuoh: you can up/down the interface from console, and set adresses and gateways.  what are you trying to accomplish?07:08
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minuohdthacker: choose which network to connect to?07:08
stdinminuoh: use iwconfig07:08
minuohknetworkmanager stopped working with wireless07:08
Zombinenavets: Yeah.  burn a CD image, but put a DVD in.  I don't know for sure if it works on k3b, but it couldn't hurt to try.07:08
poison--im getting this msg when trying to access my linux share from the share machine: 6486: tree connect failed ( in samba)07:08
minuohso i'm trying to figure out the problem07:08
poison--any ideas?07:08
dthackerminuoh: I don't know of a utility that does that at command line.07:09
dthackerminuoh: but that doesn't mean one doesn't exist.07:09
ZombineAlso, my Realtek wifi card has WEP/WPA capabilities, but Ubuntu seems to think otherwise.07:09
navetsstdin: ok, i will try it out, thanks.07:09
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minuohstdin: thanks, how do i work with wpa from console?07:10
ZombineI didn't see a driver for my model of card, so not really sure what to do...07:11
stdinminuoh: using wpa_supplicant I think07:11
minuohok i think i found: wpa_*07:11
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minuohi'm trying to understand... the led for wifi is off, means interface is not powered right? but then how wifi-radar sees the networks?07:16
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stdinminuoh: the LED may be driver controlled, doesn't mean it's on or off07:20
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navetshey guys burning the cd IsO on a dvd worked. I have a question tho, could you burn more then 1 iso on a dvd since its so big?07:22
stdinmaybe with a multisession disk, but I've never tried07:23
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sub[t] rnlI'm sure you can burn more than one .iso as data files07:24
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sub[t] rnlbut you'll have to have a way to mount it virtually07:24
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navetsk thanks guys07:27
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maverickdoes anyone know of widgets for linux rather than gDesklets or SuoerKaramba ?!!07:30
maverickan no screenlets i don't use composites07:30
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nosrednaekimhey everyone.07:33
emilsedghhey nosrednaekim07:33
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asfaki want to install flash plugin manually to konqueror. how do i do that. I installed libflashplayer.so in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox and got firefox flashplayer installed. but how to install in konq ?07:34
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nosrednaekimso what problems are afloat?07:34
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emilsedghastan: install flashplugin-nonfree from adept07:35
emilsedghasfak: install flashplugin-nonfree from adept manager07:35
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asfaki know that, but any manual installation hint. (actualy i am dialup user and getting adept manager to retrieve all source take 3-4 hours. and this is my new installation07:36
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alex_alguien en espaniol?07:37
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adz21casfak: you need to enter that location into the place for konq to scan for plugins07:37
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.07:37
bazhangnosrednaekim: heya!07:38
alex_okk, muchas gracias!07:38
nosrednaekimasfak: konqueror toolbar->settings->plugins07:38
asfaki did that too. but still does not work. plugin is scanned and seen there.07:38
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Dr_willismaverick,  i was thinking opera had some desktop gizmoa07:38
Dr_willismaverick,  i was thinking opera had some desktop gizmos07:38
nosrednaekimasfak: on the other tab, did you enable it?07:38
asfaklet me check07:39
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asfakok, the problem solved07:41
asfakthanks nosrednaekim07:41
nosrednaekimasfak: wasn't enabled?07:42
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bootsmorriscan i get compiz working in kubuntu i tried it but it wont work07:44
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asfakno it was enabled, but i forgot to restart.07:44
nosrednaekimbootsmorris: yeah... you can. where is it stuck?07:44
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nosrednaekimasfak:  ah :)07:44
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snellpojkewhat is the different betwen ubuntu and kubuntu `?07:47
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asfakhow do i view quicktime in firefox ? (enabled in konq )07:47
nosrednaekim!kubuntu | snellpojke07:47
ubotusnellpojke: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE07:47
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.07:49
snellpojkeok ty07:50
snellpojkedo it take more ram than ubuntu07:50
nosrednaekimsnellpojke: no07:50
nosrednaekimsnellpojke: from my tests, not really07:51
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bazhanggpu maybe07:51
nosrednaekimbazhang: not really.07:51
snellpojkemuch lesser than xp?07:51
bazhangless than vista...07:52
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nosrednaekimsnellpojke: GPU or ram?07:52
bazhangmuch much less than Mac or Windows.07:52
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nosrednaekimZelut: That Jucato...07:53
DaSkreechI agree07:54
snellpojkeso my celeron 256 ram is not going to lag so much like xp07:54
DaSkreechWhat are we talking about?07:54
bazhangsnellpojke: I have a Mac OS X intel core duo with 2GB of ram, and a Thinkpad with 2GB of ram, and guess which is faster?07:54
DaSkreechsnellpojke: With care nope07:54
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Dr_willissnellpojke,  with that low end a system - you Might want to look into some veryt minimal linux disrtos.07:54
tristan_Hey, are the ubuntu packports down or something? I'm having trouble updating from them.07:54
Dr_willistristan_,  been a lot of updates and server load last 3-5 days .07:55
bazhang256 ram is not going to be very fun though. probably want to up that at least to 512, or 1GB.07:55
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snellpojkebut it isnt my computer07:55
Dr_willisPuppy, DSL, or FeatherLinux.  may be best for that low end a box.07:55
nosrednaekimxubuntu is good too07:55
tristan_Dr_willis: It's cool, seems to work now.07:55
bazhangxubuntu is not that good.07:56
nosrednaekimI had ti running well on a 333mhz with 92MB of ram07:56
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sub[t] rnlnosrednaekim: nice07:56
nosrednaekimsub[t] rnl: I was very surprised, yes07:56
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sub[t] rnllinux is so versital, thats what makes it great07:57
bazhangno doubt07:57
sub[t] rnllower end ram might want to stay away from kde as a window manager, but I'm thinking 256 megs of ram is plenty for kde and ubuntu in general07:57
Dr_willisthat - in the  end IS the defacto-stregenth of Linux. :)07:57
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sub[t] rnlDr_willis: agreed07:57
savetheWorldjust a silent e, effectively nothing.. :)07:57
Dr_willisSpecilization is for Insects. :)07:58
sub[t] rnlhehe07:58
bazhangsavetheWorld: what's your question?07:58
tomican somebody help me pls with damn nvidia GF MX 440 driver. step by stap how to check what driver is installed is it the right driver, if not uninstall that and install the right one, and then config the resolution and the refresh rate. PLS07:58
LynoureHow can I change the colour of the Amarok analyzer?07:58
snellpojkeso what linux do you recomend for my computer07:59
Dr_willistomi,  try installing 'restricted-manager' and let it install them?07:59
DaSkreechbazhang: Were you asking something last night?07:59
snellpojkethats dont take much ram07:59
DaSkreechI recall having an answer for someting you said but you had gone07:59
Dr_willissnellpojke,  xubuntu if you want a ubuntu variant.07:59
tomiDr_willis pls step by steb because im new to linux07:59
Dr_willistomi,  you have read the '!nvidia' wiki factoid yet?07:59
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:59
bazhangDaSkreech: yeah haha how to get a vista box to boot a kubuntu install box--my brain couldn't get around changing the bios08:00
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nvidias - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:00
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DaSkreechbazhang: press F11/F12 at the bios info screen08:00
Dr_willistomi,  fire up the package manager, install 'restricted-manager' run it with 'sudo resricted-manager' check the proper drivers for it to install/use/ restatrt/reboot machine08:00
tarsonisHey, is it possible to remap the XF86VolumeUp/Down keys? I don't find them mapped somewhere in the kcontrol...08:00
tarsonisI am using kubuntu08:00
nosrednaekimtarsonis: yeah... in Kmix08:00
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DaSkreech!kdesu | tomi08:01
ubotutomi: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo08:01
sub[t] rnlLynoure: have you looking around in the apearance tab in the settings?08:01
nosrednaekimtarsonis: what do you want them mapped to?08:01
snellpojkedo you know what happened when i was trying to boot ubuntu yesterday ? i put a link wait08:01
bazhangDaSkreech: thanks! I got it going--man vista is a mess! wiped that baby off right away.08:01
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tarsonisnosrednaekim, my new Software Volume control I created08:01
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DaSkreechbazhang:  it gets worse as time goes on :)08:01
nosrednaekimtarsonis: you mean you want it to call a shell command?08:01
bazhangDaSkreech: you have to use it? eewww!08:01
DaSkreechbazhang: yep08:02
ugaDaSkreech: oh nice. Finally somebody completed that description of sudo, with the "why"08:02
Lynouresub[t] rnl: yes, and yes. And googled too08:02
bazhangheya uga08:02
tarsoniswhats this OSD when i press the keys?08:02
ugahi again bazhang08:02
DaSkreechuga: youy know you could change it right?08:02
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ugaDaSkreech: no, I don't. I thought it was allowed only to ops or so08:03
tarsonisCan anyone tell me whats that OSD when I use the XF86RaiseVolume and LowerVolume keys on my keyboard?08:03
DaSkreechuga: Try and make one08:03
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DaSkreechuga: or change one08:03
ugatarsonis: heh, I just found it too. Dunno... lemme check if I can figure out08:03
DaSkreechits !factoid is description08:04
ugaDaSkreech: is there a howto? the bot doesn't help08:04
ugaDaSkreech: ah, cheers08:04
DaSkreechit will be submitted but not changed08:04
tarsonisuga, highlight me if you'll find out :)08:04
snellpojkehttp://www.fuskbugg.se/pub/misc/Ubuntu.JPG !!!!! so if i install xubuntu will i ahve the same problem?08:04
DaSkreechubotu will pm you08:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about will pm you - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:04
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DaSkreechjoin #ubuntu-bots and ask for it to be reviewed08:04
DaSkreechthere you go08:05
ladyofthenight^^does anybody know if frys sells seasonic power supplies08:05
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DaSkreechtarsonis: Sorry? what are you asking?08:05
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ugaI lost the backlog08:08
tarsonisDaSkreech, i'm asking about the program thats making the OSD when I press the Volume Up und Down keys on my keyboard.08:08
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ugaanybody can tell who was asking about especial keys?08:08
DaSkreechsnellpojke: Laptop?08:08
ugaa few lines ago08:08
ugaI figured out08:08
tarsonisuga, I was.08:08
tarsonisI guess.08:08
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ugatarsonis: it's kmilo. They revamped the gui it seems08:09
ugabut remains being the same service08:09
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DaSkreech!laptop > snellpojke08:09
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tarsonisBut kmilo isn't running?!08:09
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tarsonistarsonis@iNSANE:~$ ps -A | grep kmilo08:09
snellpojkeDaSkreech ty08:09
DaSkreechsnellpojke: Most likely a power issue you can cheat your way out of it08:09
ugatarsonis: it's a kde service, under kcontrol->kde components->service manager->kmilo08:09
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ugatarsonis: it's the thing that captures my volume up, mute, etc keys08:10
tarsoniskmilo is also not installed.08:10
snellpojkeDaSkreech ok :P but how08:10
ugaand shows the OSD08:10
ugatarsonis: don't you get a gray bar with white chars on it?08:10
ugatarsonis: on gutsy at least08:10
ugaand volume percentage if voume changed08:10
tarsonisYes I get it.08:10
ugathat's kmilo. I stop it, then doesn't show =)08:10
tarsonisBut adept says kmilo is not installed.08:10
DaSkreechsnellpojke: noacpi I think08:11
tomiDr_willis i have installed 'restricted-manager' and after running it says: NVIDIA accelerated graphic card Enabled and In use08:11
tarsonisIt is kmilo howeve.08:11
DaSkreechthat page will help08:11
tarsonisThough its not installed08:11
ugaheh, I checked just in case:;08:11
ugaroot@dpcuga:/home/uga# dpkg -S /usr/lib/kde3/kded_kmilod.so08:11
ugakmilo: /usr/lib/kde3/kded_kmilod.so08:11
tomiso now what?08:11
tarsonisYeah - it was kmilo08:11
tarsonisIs there a way to configure it?08:11
DaSkreechanyway to the market!08:12
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ugatarsonis: I belive one could map keys ... there was an X tool that showed each event captured... cant' recall08:12
tarsonisThats not the point I guess.08:12
tarsoniskmilo just changes volume for the master channel08:12
tarsonisbut thats not what i want08:12
ugatarsonis: ah, I see what you mean...08:12
tarsonisi want to change the channel it modifies08:13
tarsonisBecause my master channel is a very different one08:14
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ugatarsonis: not sure if this may work for you: http://www.mepis.org/node/619508:14
tarsonislets see08:14
tarsonisI guess i'll do it otherwise.08:15
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ugatarsonis: how about providing a nice patch to kmilo =)08:15
Dr_willistomi,  Huh?08:16
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tomiDr_willis i have installed 'restricted-manager' and after running it says: NVIDIA accelerated graphic card Enabled and In use08:16
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Dr_willistomi,    grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf              see if that puts out a line like ,..    Driver          "nvidia"08:17
Dr_willisif so - its installed.. you do need to restart the X server for the stuff to take effect.08:18
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tomiups :( No such file or directory08:18
Dr_willisYou did a typo then.08:18
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Dr_willisa little cleaner out put if ya use..08:19
Dr_williswillis@MythBox:~$ grep nvidia  /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:19
Dr_willis        Driver          "nvidia"08:19
tarsonisuga, nah...08:20
snellpojkewhat is gutsy08:20
ugatarsonis: the patch shouldn't be complex. just a simple dialog08:20
BluesKajDr_willis, any luck with Mythtv ?08:20
tomitomi@myKubuntu:~$ grep nvidia /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:20
tomigrep: /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory08:20
sub[t] rnlsnellpojke: gutsy is the 7.10 release of ubuntu08:20
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tarsonisuga, yeah maybe, but coding is not my best skill :p08:21
Dr_willisBluesKaj,  got Mythbuntu installed on this system now.08:21
tarsonistombar_, cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep nvidia ?08:21
tarsoniseh, tomi i mean08:21
snellpojkecya i will burn and install now08:21
james_xxxcould someone tell me what repo to use to get w32codecs?08:21
sub[t] rnlgluck!08:21
Dr_willisjames_xxx,  i use the medibuntu repos08:21
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs08:22
tomitarsonis ?? that command agains says no such file...08:22
Dr_willisor seveas package08:22
james_xxxty all08:22
BluesKajDr_willis, OTA signals or cable or satellite ?08:22
tarsonisyou dont have an xorg.conf08:22
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:22
sub[t] rnlDr_willis: agreed08:22
sub[t] rnljames_xxx: deb-src http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ feisty free non-free08:22
Dr_willisBluesKaj,  just normal cable. :) cant get it to even handle the digigtal cable box.08:22
sub[t] rnlor follow the links the doc gave ya08:22
tomitarsonis can u tell me steb by step how to fix that08:22
tarsonistomi, well, i dont know, rerun xorg-config or something08:23
james_xxxty sub[t] rnl08:23
Dr_willisHmm.. I am watching Digital Cable now. :P G4-CodeMonkeys show... its... weird.08:23
sub[t] rnlI havn't watched g4 in a while08:24
BluesKajDr_willis, I'm using a composite feed from a sat receiver with TVtime ...gotta use the analog audio feed as a separate audio input ,but it works ok08:24
sub[t] rnlwhats code monkeys about?08:24
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Dr_willissub[t] rnl,  thats.. hard to describe.. :)08:24
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Dr_willisgo to the G4 web site, codemonkeys page i guess. :)08:24
morphinexah, mythtv08:25
tomitarsonis i run kdesu nvidia-xconfig and now file is there08:25
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sub[t] rnlI watched an episode of bluejacking on g4 using linux08:25
morphinexso much trouble, but so cool once it works08:25
sub[t] rnlfun stuff08:25
Dr_willisat least the comecials on G4 - are things i MIGHT possibley be interested in.08:25
Dr_willis:) unlike the other channels08:25
sub[t] rnlhehe08:25
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tominow what to do ?08:26
Dr_willis'this show also availiable as a G4 podcast' :) too bad i dont own a ipod.08:26
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tomicat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep nvidia output is08:26
sub[t] rnlyeah08:26
tomi# nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig08:26
tomi# nvidia-xconfig:  version 1.0  (buildmeister@builder3)  Mon Feb 26 23:38:46 PST 200708:26
tomi    Driver         "nvidia"08:26
BluesKajoh G4 , those jerks ..took screensavers and call for help off the air to increase their revenue from the game companies ...to me they're nothing but a contstant commercial for games ...We still get Leo Laporte here in Canada on our G4 feed tho.08:26
sub[t] rnlwe're going to start a Dr_willis iPod fund here08:27
Dr_willistomi,  its showing Driver nvida.. so Its installed..08:27
sub[t] rnlleave your donations with the bot08:27
sub[t] rnl:P08:27
Dr_willistomi,  you did restart the X server?   perhaps even reboot...08:27
tomii will now. and see the results08:27
morphinexhey, it sounds like I'm having the same problem as tomi08:27
morphinexI can't get my damn X working either08:28
morphinexon my mythbuyntu box08:28
BluesKajBBL, time to haul some more shingles up to the roof08:28
sub[t] rnlBluesKaj: use a loader, easier on your back08:28
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morphinexAnd I have to tell you, the folks over at ubuntu-mythtv aren't too helpful ;)08:29
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morphinexHonestly, makes me wish I had stayed with fedora for my myth box08:29
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sub[t] rnlmorphinex: so whats going on with it?  just crashing?08:30
morphinexX gives me the your X server isn't configured right error08:30
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morphinexI used nvidia-xconfig (or whatever) and still the same del08:30
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sub[t] rnltry reconfiguring it with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:31
sub[t] rnland if all else fails, post up your /var/log/Xorg.0.log08:31
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sub[t] rnl!paste08:31
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)08:31
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morphinexBack when X was working I actually had nother problem too08:32
morphinexSeemed to be a font problem08:32
Jimmselhas anyone here ever used the siemens gigaset 108 pc card?08:33
james_xxxi can't get any of these seveas mirrors to work, hmmm08:33
frank_Knetworkmanager says: No active device.    Anyone else have this in kubuntu beta?08:34
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sub[t] rnljames_xxx: after adding the repos to your sources.list, don't forget to apt-update08:34
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james_xxxsub[t] rnl: i did the update, but the urls could not be resolved08:35
Hart13zdar all08:35
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james_xxxi tried using several of the mirrors08:35
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tomiDr_willis after reboot all i had was a blank screen and i had to delete the xorg.conf file with mc so i can boot08:36
tomiwhat is the problem, please help08:36
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Dr_willistomi,  check that !nvidia page again. it may be you need the older nvidia package/drivers08:36
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Dr_willisI dont have that exact card. so cant tell you much more then that. and to check the forums for issues with that exact card08:37
Dr_willisYou could of just changed the 'Driver 'nvidia'' line back to 'Driver 'nv''08:37
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tomiaccording to you what driver is for GF4 MX440? can u check that?08:37
Dr_willis!find nvidia-glx08:38
ubotuFound: nvidia-glx, nvidia-glx-dev, nvidia-glx-new, nvidia-glx-new-dev, nvidia-glx-legacy (and 1 others)08:38
Dr_willisI woudl guess the    nvidia-glx-legacy   - is for the older cards08:38
tomiso how can i now uninstall the one i have and install nvidia-glx-legacy08:38
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Dr_willisapt-get remove nvidia-glx and apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy08:39
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Dr_willisthen of course ya need to fix the xorg.conf to use "Driver nvidia" instead of "driver nv"08:39
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Dr_willisI wonder if the !nvidia page mentions that card specificially08:40
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ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:40
Level15anyone using the beta?08:40
markithi, I've installed kubuntu into a laptop of a friend of mine. Today he has brought it back to me for further installation / setup. I've run "adept" for the second time in my life, but seems different from the first time, I mean, I don't have the "categories" tree with filter for kde or other packages... what could be wrong?08:40
tomii think it doesnt08:40
Dr_willisGeForce4 MX 440 0x0171 http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/README/appendix-a.html08:41
Dr_willisuses the legacy driver -- according to the links i followed on that page.08:41
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Dr_willisI thought the 'restricted-driver manager' tool even had 2 check boxs  one for the legacy, one for the newer08:41
markitoh, I see, adept is different from ... adept!08:42
markitdepends what item I select in the menu.. so strange08:42
ghozalai need to install  hp printer laserjet 102008:42
markithow can it be?08:43
Dr_willismarkit,  it has a 'user-friendly' gui when used with the add/remove icon :)08:43
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ugaghozala: laserjet printers are mostly postscript printers, if I'm not wrong08:43
morphineah, so the problem with X seems to be that the nvidia kernel module is not loading08:43
markitDr_willis: exactly! how can I activate it from the "regular" adept?08:43
Dr_willismarkit,  i use the terminal.. :)08:43
Dr_willissudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx08:44
Dr_willissudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy08:44
Dr_willissudo nvidia-xconfig08:44
tomiDr_willis i have just run sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy08:44
Dr_willisyou MIGHT need to    sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules08:44
ghozalauga some one gave me an url for the driver and it worked but i reinstalled my kubuntu08:44
Dr_willistomi,  yes.. thats how the apt system works.08:44
tomibut now there isnt nvidia-xconfig08:44
morphinethanks, doc08:45
tomiand no xorg.conf file  in the X11 dir08:45
ugaghozala: download drivers? kubuntu should have all those drivers preinstalled...08:45
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markitDr_willis: I usually use the terminal (aptitude), wondered why adept was so strange this time, now I know that are 2 different programs, but with the same icon, sigh08:45
ugaghozala: it's an HP, right?08:45
Dr_willistomi,  because you depeted it.. instead of just editing it back.08:45
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ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows08:45
Dr_willisapttitude is the apt stuff with yet another interface. :)08:45
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ghozalabut the driver for my  device not included so i have to put it manullay in the list08:45
Dr_willisappitude install linux-restricted-modules    would be 'about' the same as apt-get install linux-restricted-modules08:45
ugaghozala: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrintersHp08:46
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Dr_willismarkit,  look in the /etc/X11 dir. there may be a backed up xorg.conf file08:46
ugaghozala: "In Feisty, it works fine. The driver that is included in Ubuntu does NOT work in previous versions. To get this printer to work go to [WWW]  http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/ and follow the instructions there. Then when you add the printer make sure to select the second foo2zjs option (the one that does not say recommended).08:46
ugaghozala: it's about your printer model08:46
ugabut if you have feisty, it _should_ work without installing any drivers08:47
ghozalathis one thanks08:47
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ghozalai forgot about08:47
ugaghozala: if you're on gutsy/feisty, you shouldn't need to do anything according to those instructions08:47
fay_elfI am going to get kubuntu up and running soon, and need to use my nokia with an usb cable for web by edge so for frequent use, is there some modern solution ready on install?08:47
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morphinesigh, same X error after I removed and reinstalled the nvidia driver08:48
Level15how do i tell adept to use a proxy server for downloads? and what abt the username/password for this proxy server?08:48
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fay_elfCould i just plug the cable and use /tty/acm0 like any supported modem through the networking applets?08:49
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Dr_willisLevel15,  synaptic has a 'settings/network/proxy' tab i notice..08:50
Dr_willisnot in kde.. so cant check adept08:50
droachanyone know how to set up my tv card in ubuntu08:50
Dr_willisdroach,  first - check that the tv tuner card even has any linux support at all. :)08:50
markitmm I've selected some games, and it gives me an error when I tell to apply modifications... not very good for my friend, sigh08:51
ghozalauga: how can i get visual style for my kubuntu like desktop cube and vista styles etc...08:51
Level15yeah, well, i have adept, not synaptics... and i really don't feel like installing a lot of gnome stuff08:51
droachit should it hauppage/wintv08:51
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Dr_willismarkit,  be sure to 'update' the repositories  then try installing them again08:51
Dr_willismarkit,  also at this time - thers a lot of se4rver load/timeouts going on.08:51
Level15n/m, already started the update w/o proxy... it's just that with the proxy it's soooo much faster...08:52
morphinewill the nv driver use the s-video out on my video card?08:52
markitDr_willis: I've found the wireless connection was stopped... mmm does not work much long, sigh08:52
ghozalahow can i Install Software Development (gcc) package08:52
droachsudo apt-get install gcc08:53
markitmm does not work either08:53
markitadept works fine, add/remove does not08:53
BluesKajLevel15, synaptic doesn't install gnome apps unless you're using gnome desktop08:53
Level15synaptic uses gnome libs, i think08:54
BluesKajsynaptic finds hidden apps better than adept08:54
Level15hidden apps?08:54
ghozalahay how can i fix this Error: /usr/include/stdio.h is not installed!08:55
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BluesKajyeah for example growisofs is an iso component requirement for dvd authoring , but adept doesn't show it in the searchbox where as synaptic will08:56
nosrednaekimheya BluesKaj08:57
BluesKajhi nosrednaekim ...what's up ?08:57
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ghozalahay how can i fix this Error: /usr/include/stdio.h is not installed!08:57
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: just took the SAT.... 5 hours long!!! i'm beat.08:57
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nosrednaekimghozala: where/when did you get that error08:58
BluesKajSAT for University entrance ?08:58
ghozalai was installing foo2zjs08:58
fay_elfSo one can/cannot use a usb connected cell phone like any modem through desktop applets without doing scripts,  using ancient wvdial, gprs easy (not) connect etc, ...?08:58
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ghozalafor printer08:58
ghozala      *** Error: /usr/include/stdio.h is not installed!08:59
ghozala      ***08:59
ghozala      *** Install Software Development (gcc) package08:59
ghozala      ***08:59
ghozalamake: *** [all-test]  Error 108:59
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nosrednaekimBluesKaj: yeah....09:00
nosrednaekimall I can say is that the creators better be glad that Bush legalized torture.09:00
frank_ghozala: you're missing some standard development packages.    Install the build-essential package09:01
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nosrednaekimghozala: run "sudo apt-get install build-essential"09:01
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morphinexSo maybe the problem is that the nvidia kernel module is for some reason no loading at boot09:01
morphinexCan I put nvidia into /etc/modules ?09:02
morphinexAnd make it load?09:02
nosrednaekimmorphinex: thats not going to do much good09:02
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nosrednaekimmore than likely the versions are mis-matching.09:02
Angelushi guyz09:02
morphinexnosrednaekim: how can I learn if that is the problem?09:03
ghozalathanks guys09:03
ugamorphinex: what does "modprobe nvidia" say09:03
BluesKajyeah, nosrednaekim ,  I took similar tests 1n 1962 ...teachers told me I wasn't intelligent enuff to attend university and succeed as a student ...I think my parents were relieved that they didn't have to pay for my schooling :)09:03
Angelusi had a via chipset (k8m890 unsuported by X) and kubuntu when it loads the livecd crashes at loading with a screen full of colours, now i bought a video card (GeForce 8400) and same thing , could it be that the video card is too new?09:03
morphinexuga: FATAL: Error running install command for nvidia09:03
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: heh... well I already got a full scholarship to a college, I just have to get in :)09:04
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nosrednaekimAngelus: yep... it is :)09:04
nosrednaekimAngelus: go get gutsy beta09:04
ugamorphinex: okay, that's due to either lrm modules being missing, or lrm commands being missing. Did you uninstall any linux-restricted* pack? or how did you install nvidia binary. From nvidia site?09:04
BluesKajright on nosrednaekim ...I hope you get in09:04
ghozalanosrednaekim: where can i get kubuntu styles , desktop cube and vista styles for kubuntu09:04
james_xxxnosrednaekim: how is gutsy working for you right now?09:04
Angelusso probably thats the reason why the livecd crashes at loading (both on the chipset and graphic card) because the computer is too new nosrednaekim ?09:04
ugamorphinex: the error isn't about not being able to load the module, no version mismatch09:05
nosrednaekimAngelus: no probably not...09:05
nosrednaekimghozala: www.kde-look.org09:05
ugamorphinex: what package did you install Nvidia*.run, or ubuntu nvidia package?09:05
BluesKajwell , time to put the mule back to work ... BB in 15 mins or so09:05
fay_elfI think that a nifty way to install nvidia-binary is to do a recovery boot09:05
morphinexuga: no, i installed nvidia-glx-legacy09:05
Angelusthe chipset  is unsupported by Xorg and the graphic card too knew, so whats the reason about that screen of colours if not because they are too knew nosrednaekim ?09:05
Angelusbtw nosrednaekim  only kubuntu and windows vista does this.09:06
morphinexuga: and I also isntalled linux-restricted-modules09:06
nosrednaekimjames_xxx: really well! Sound quality is better... wireless support is better, but suspend doesn't work with the fglrx drivers09:06
nosrednaekimAngelus: how new is the computer?09:06
fay_elfRead the info on nvidia-legacy in the manager, it has a _warning_ :(09:07
james_xxxnosrednaekim: awesome to hear. i was suddenly having some issues playing videos in feisty (never had a problem before today), could not figure it out, and decided to upgrade right now :-D09:07
Angelusnosrednaekim, 9months? or less. the chipset doesnt have a driver on Xorg, (only openchrome has it) , and the graphic card i bought it today09:07
ugamorphinex: check /etc/modprobe.d/lrm-video09:07
ugamorphinex: that's what modprobe is trying to load and why it fails09:07
ugamorphinex: it tries running /sbin/lrm-video nvidia_legacy $CMDLINE_OPTS09:08
ugacheck if that lrm-video command is installed09:08
nosrednaekimAngelus: do any other linux distros work? like PClinuxOS?09:08
nosrednaekimjames_xxx: yeah... its pretty stable.09:08
Angelusnosrednaekim, all distros work, only kubutnu and windows vista doesn't09:08
morphinexuga: yeah, it is there09:08
ugamorphinex: you can do something else... remove all restricted modules package, comment out all lines in lrm-video file, and install nvidia's installer09:08
morphinexuga: there is some other stuff in there too09:08
ugathat's the line that corresponds to your driver though09:08
nosrednaekimAngelus: then all I can really suggest is try gutsy, and if that doesn't work, use PClinuxOS :)09:09
bazhangAngelus: ?09:09
morphinexinstall nvidia_legacy /sbin/lrm-video nvidia_legacy $CMDLINE_OPTS09:09
fay_elfOpensuse is good. But even it needs a console trick to activate the driver.09:09
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bazhangfay_elf: 10.3?09:09
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Angelusi use gentoo nosrednaekim  , but the thingi s i wanted to know if the problem is kubutnu and vista not supporting my hardware or a damaged mother board :S09:09
nosrednaekimAngelus: doubt it..09:10
morphinexuga: so you think I should download the driver from nvidia and insgtall it?09:10
nosrednaekimAngelus: probably just bad hardware detetection09:10
fay_elf10.2 did. havent been there for a while09:10
Angelusi see09:10
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_StefanS_anyone know where kwrite is in the kmenu ? I cant find it :)09:14
nosrednaekim_StefanS_: I don't think its installed by default...09:14
nosrednaekimkate is in utilities though09:15
_StefanS_well it is, its just not present in the menu09:15
_StefanS_I want kwrite not slow kate :D09:15
nosrednaekimadd it then :)09:15
_StefanS_hmm It seems like my menus have root permissions in my home folder.. thats odd09:16
_StefanS_cant remember me doing that09:16
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ugamorphinex: if you are sure you followed all instructions to make it work with ubuntu packages and still doesn't work, maybe yes09:18
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ugamorphinex: I'd suggest you use insmod, instead of modprobe first09:18
ugaif you can find the nvidia.ko module09:18
ugaand try load it09:18
ugainsmod needs the full path of the *.ko module09:18
morphinexI did locate nvidia.ko and nothing09:19
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ugamorphinex: then it's not built... iirc lrm named it nvidia.o09:19
ugait's missing a linkage, I think09:19
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bootsmorrisi have a quuestion09:20
morphinexuga: did updatedb and still locate didn't find anything09:20
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ugamorphinex: not even nvidia.o?09:20
uganot .ko, .o09:20
nosrednaekimbootsmorris: ask09:20
morphinexuga: /var/cache/restricted-manager/nvidia.oldconf09:21
morphinexthat's it09:21
bootsmorrisi was updating 7.10 and my laptop shut off b/c of it overheating.  how do i finish the install process09:21
ugamorphinex: uhm... I wonder if you are missing to install some nvidia package...09:21
bootsmorrisi was using adept09:21
ugamorphinex: you could try installing nvidia's site installers then :/09:21
morphinexI have an nvidiafb.ko file09:22
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fay_elfJust level the hd and reinstall outside09:22
ugano, that's the framebuffer driver09:22
morphinexI lso have an nvidia_dr.so09:22
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ugauhm... I don't know that one09:22
nosrednaekimbootsmorris: run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"09:22
morphinexerr, nvidia_drv.ko09:22
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uganto sure... maybe it's for chipset support. I don't have such a file09:23
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bootsmorrisno i alreadyt have 7.10 installled i was installing updates09:23
ugamorphinex: that may be the one? not sure09:23
morphinexok, I'll try it09:23
nosrednaekimbootsmorris: oh... then just open adept and restart....09:23
ugamorphinex: use insmod /../../...../nvidida_drv.ko. As modprobe will fail otherwise09:24
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bootsmorrisrestart what09:24
nosrednaekimbootsmorris: the update09:24
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morphinexuga: the file is it /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so09:25
morphinexdoes that sound more or less right?09:25
ugamorphinex: no, that's not a kernel module =)09:25
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ugayou said .ko and that confused me09:25
Level15ok, so how do i tell upgrade-manager to use a proxy?09:25
Level15or apt09:25
morphinexuga: sorry, my bad ;)09:26
morphinexI DO have nvidia-agp.ko09:26
morphinexI'm sure that one is a ko09:26
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ugaI don't think that's the gfx card driver09:27
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ugamorphinex: testing wont' harm though ;)09:27
nosrednaekimnvidia-agp is something for the nv driver09:27
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morphinexI could avoid this whole thing if the nv driver supported s-video out... does it?09:28
bootsmorrishow do i resume the last set of updates that i installed09:28
ugamorphinex: did you really install nvidia-glx-legacy ?09:28
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morphinexuga: i really did09:28
frank_morphinex: nope no tvout with nv09:28
ugamorphinex: a sec, phone09:29
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morphinexuga: nvidia-glx-legacy is already the newest version.09:29
ugamorphinex: back from phone09:30
ugamorphinex: you can check what the package installed, by doing: dpkg -L nvidia-glx-legacy09:31
ugathat list should include the driver, in theory (among lots of other stuff)09:31
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morphinexuga: honestly, I see no .ko file in the list09:32
ugano nvidia.o, as I said?09:32
ugaor nvidia_legacy.o09:32
reneNeed some help with kismet09:32
morphinexLet me copy and paste09:32
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nosrednaekimuga: isn't that included in the kernel restricted drivers package?09:32
uganosrednaekim: NVIDIA binary 'legacy' kernel module source09:33
Doctor_Nicka mood house?09:33
uganosrednaekim: that's the description of the glx package09:33
nosrednaekimuga: source?09:33
ugaso I'm not sure09:33
nosrednaekimoh.. hmm09:33
ugabinary... source? =)09:33
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ugaright, it's not there09:34
morphinexI wonder how this happened09:34
ugamorphinex: what I don't know is what package usually provides the nvidia.kol09:35
DaSkreechWell it all began trillions of years ago.....09:35
ugais there a .deb package search?09:35
savetheWorldDaSkreech: Tell us a story Daddy!09:35
bazhangmore like 600009:35
ugaie, file search09:35
DaSkreechGather around children09:35
BluesKajonce upon a time in the west09:35
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DaSkreechOnce upon a time a long long time ago there was one who held the source code for all and gave it to none09:36
DaSkreechYes yes it's true09:36
minisrule192Two users walked into a bar, /quit and /exit... /exit got bored and walked out, who was left?09:36
morphinexThat is my bug, I think09:36
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ugamorphinex: in theory... linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-12-generic09:36
ugamorphinex: replace the kernel number with your uname -r09:36
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents09:36
DaSkreechminisrule192: That's mean09:36
ugamorphinex: can you check dpkg -L on that linux-restricted-modules package?09:36
BluesKajright minisrule192 ..wonder who will09:36
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BluesKajjust hit the space bar first09:37
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BeyerBluesKaj: What was it again, the mp3player thing.. Storage Media?09:37
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morphinexuga: no luckl09:38
BeyerSorry for leaving without saying anything.. :D09:38
BluesKajyeah  Beyer09:38
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DaSkreechstdin: why the ban?09:38
ugamorphinex: lemme install the damn packages, and I'll let you know (after that I'll remove them back ;))09:38
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BluesKajok, time to turn into a mule again for a few mins ...only 8 bundles to go09:38
stdinDaSkreech: because he's doing that in multiple channels trying to get people to type "/quit"09:39
jpatrickDaSkreech: top secret09:39
tommymannI'm working on a feisty kubuntu and we can't get wired connection, what's worse is when it's plugged in the internet shuts down09:39
tommymannsomething bad wrong is going on09:39
ugamorphinex: uh, that's not linux-restricted-modules whole pack. or else it's broken09:39
ugait can't contain just a changelog09:39
ugait's a huge pack09:39
morphinexuga: yeah, I'm getting the feeling that something is seriously broken09:39
DaSkreechmaybe it's a whole lot of changelog?09:39
bazhangtommymann: the internet shuts down?09:40
tommymannit's a fresh install and it does it from the livecd09:40
tommymannyeah, like our home network09:40
tommymannit kicks me off too09:40
tommymannshe doesn't just not get internet09:40
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tommymannI don't get internet when she's plugged in09:40
tommymannit's really strange09:40
BluesKajsame host09:40
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bazhangtommymann: are you using knetworkmanager?09:41
BluesKajhauling shingles for my roof DaSkreech09:42
morphinexuga: heh, here we go09:42
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DaSkreechBluesKaj: Ha ha Go man go09:42
morphinexuga: some kind of dependency loop09:42
BeyerBluesKaj: The mp3player gets this "connected" pic on the screen, now it doesn't09:42
stdinuga: linux-restricted-modules-generic = meta-package09:42
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ginomanoh well, no one here reads animorphs appearantly09:42
BeyerWith my other comp (has windows) it does as soon as the computer is supporting it.09:42
bazhangtommymann: you still there?09:43
BluesKajwe don't have Mule politics in Canada , justr stubborn animals by a different name09:43
morphinexlinux-restricted-modules-generic: Depends: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-13-generic but it is not installble09:43
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: A's?09:43
morphinexuga: I'm thinking that maybe I'll just use the nvidia-provided thing09:44
tommymannyeah sorry got distracted09:44
ugaI just installed and it's there... BUT09:44
ugauga@dpcuga:~$ dpkg -S /lib/modules/2.6.22-12-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko09:44
ugadpkg: /lib/modules/2.6.22-12-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko not found.09:44
tommymannbazhang: yeah we're using knetworkmanager09:44
bazhangtommymann: do you use knetworkmanager?09:44
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uga>   linux-restricted-modules linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-13-generic linux-restricted-modules-common linux-restricted-modules-generic09:44
uga>   nvidia-kernel-common09:44
bazhangtommymann: does it see your network?09:45
ugathose are the packs that I just got installed by dependancies09:45
tommymannit's greyed out09:45
aceyCan someone help me get rid of GRUB so I can install a new slave hd?09:45
tommymannI've been to two county fairs and three goat shows and I've never seen any shit like it09:45
aceyit keeps giving me error 5 when i put in the new hd and swap it out for this one im using09:45
DaSkreech!grub | acey09:45
ubotuacey: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto09:45
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.09:45
bazhangdoes knetworkmanager require administration mode? I forget.09:45
tommymannonly to configure09:46
aceyNo I mean I like want to keep GRUB, but I want to install kubuntu to a new secondary hd09:46
morphinexuga: I can't install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-13-generic09:46
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morphinexSays it has no installation candidate09:46
aceybut when I pull out my second hd it gives me error 509:46
ugamorphinex: you should have one for your kernel version. This is gutsy09:46
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bazhangwhere is MS-SUSE?09:46
JiriNacey: grub-install /path/to/seondhdd09:47
morphinexuga: Mine is gutsy too :)09:47
aceyok let me put it this way09:47
aceyI have 2 hd09:47
aceyone has windows09:47
DaSkreechbazhang: Novell?09:47
aceyone has kubuntu09:47
bazhangtommymann: you need to configure it...09:47
aceyI want to get rid of my second one with kubuntu on it09:47
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aceyand oput a new bigger second one in09:47
DaSkreechacey: Right09:47
tommymannbazhang: I tried, no dice. Just enable and disable09:47
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aceybut when i put the new one in09:47
DaSkreechand copy over the install ?09:47
bazhangDaSkreech: he was in #Suse, but got kicked out for some reason.09:48
aceyGRUB gives me error 5 on boot09:48
tommymannin the configurator the ethernet port shows up09:48
JiriNacey: grub-install /path/to/seondhdd09:48
bazhangtommymann: this is in feisty?09:48
Doctor_Nickis there a default shortcut key for bringing up the process manager or can you congigure one?09:48
tommymannbazhang: yeah09:48
stdinmorphinex: you may just have to wait a while, or use another mirror for the package to appear09:48
aceybut the hd I want to install it to isn't in my computer yet becuase I can't even boot my computer with it in09:48
bazhangtommymann: can you access it from another computer?09:49
BeyerSo.. I have a creative zen vision m, 30gb. The problem is that the linux doesn't detect it. Any ideas?09:49
morphinexuga: ok, removing linux-restricted-modules-common is removing  whole bunch of stuff09:49
aceyI have to have both my 1st and 2nd hd's in with both winxp and kubuntu on each just to boot my computer up09:49
aceyso i can select an os09:49
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DaSkreechacey: use the Live CD09:49
tommymannbazhang: can I access what? The internet. I can access it with all three other computers as long as the kub feisty isn't plugged in09:55
morphinexincluding nvidia-glx-legacy09:55
aceyWill I still be able to boot into windows xp after im done?09:55
aceylike will it be exactly as it is now?09:55
aceybut with my new hd09:55
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DaSkreechtommymann: sounds like you are running dhcp on the feisty box09:55
bazhangtommymann: does your isp limit the number of computers that can connect to your service? some do.09:55
DaSkreechacey: Yes please read the url ubotu sent you09:55
morphinexoh boy, now it wants to install kernel version 2.6.22-1209:55
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aceykk ill just install it and hope it works then09:55
tommymannno, plus I have all the other computers except this box and it shut down09:55
tommymannI am running dhcp on the feisty since that's the default09:55
morphinexstdin: you might be right, I may have to wait until gutsy final comes out to use this machine as a mythtv frontend09:55
rathelHow do I go through folders and subfolder looking for specific files and copy them? I know how to remove find . -name name -print0 | xargs -0 rm How would you copy? Thanks.09:55
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bazhangtommymann: like DaSkreech said, you may have a static address, or is it dynamic (ie changes every time)?09:55
tommymanndynamic, I believe09:55
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bazhangtommymann: are you sure?09:55
shadowhywindHay all, I was wondering If there was a issue with knetworkmanager from the last update?09:55
tommymannbazhang: not sure09:55
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nosrednaekimshadowhywind: gutsy for fiesty?09:55
tommymannbazhang: how do I check for certain09:55
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shadowhywindI believe fiesty *how can i double check?*09:55
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DaSkreechnosrednaekim: I hope that was or feisty09:55
shadowhywindi am running 7.04 which i believe is fiesty correct?09:55
nosrednaekimDaSkreech: ERR!09:55
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stdinmorphinex: maybe, but I was referring the package it's looking for "linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-13-generic"09:55
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morphinexstdin: well, I can't get X working until I can get that package09:55
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stdinmorphinex: sometimes it takes a while for all the bits to land09:55
shadowhywindits like i did the kde updates *which was last week or two weeks ago* and i have noticed that ever since then, my knetworkmanager hasn't been detecting any wireless networks, nor tells me if i am connected by wireless or ethernet09:55
morphinexstdin: the good news.... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/14970709:56
tommymannshadowhywind: Our problems are similar09:56
shadowhywindso is this a bug caused from the last update?09:57
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tommymannpossibly; mine was from a fresh disk09:57
nosrednaekimshadowhywind: could be09:57
tommymannfrom yesterday09:57
tommymannso it probably has the update in question09:57
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shadowhywindguess we just have to wait till the next upgrade09:59
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shadowhywindalso roughly speaking, when is gusty supposed to be released09:59
ussershadowhywind: oct 15th09:59
BluesKajtommymann, what router or gateway are you using ?09:59
usserwell 18th09:59
ghozala_HELP!!!! i ve got compiz-fusion and i installed it already but when i run compiz-fusin icon it doesnt open....can anybody help me with this plz09:59
shadowhywindoh thats not to bad09:59
nosrednaekimghozala_: is that the exact command you run?10:00
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usserghozala_: try alt+f2 type in compiz --replace10:00
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tommymannBluesKaj: the 2wire the DSL people gave us10:00
shadowhywindguess I will just wait till the 18th and do that update, is gusty being released with kde 4?10:00
nosrednaekimshadowhywind: it has it, but its not default10:01
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ghozala_usser not working10:01
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BluesKaj2wires are difficult to configure , even on windows10:01
ghozala_and i open it from the menu not by a command and it loads and never opens10:01
shadowhywindfun, I tried installing the beta version, and it was seriously messed up. everytime i tried to opena program it opened a different one10:01
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usserghozala_: open up the terminal type compiz --replace and pastebin the output10:02
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aceyCan anyone tell me how to install grub to my master hd if it is already installed to my slave hd?10:03
aceyso i can boot my computer with just the master hd in?10:03
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nosrednaekimacey: sure, "sudo grub-install /dev/hda"10:04
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aceywill that change anything on the slave hd?10:04
aceylike, if i did that will it still boot with both hds in?10:04
nosrednaekimacey: shouldn't.... as long as what you want to boot is on the master10:04
usseracey: that is if your master is hda10:04
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nosrednaekimusser: isn't that ALWAYS the case?10:04
nosrednaekimI guess it could be hdc..10:04
ussernosrednaekim: well theres sda10:05
aceykk thanks, im just trying to use a new hd i got as slave so yea10:05
ussernosrednaekim: on most systems10:05
aceyoo how do i tell what the master is? its primary master10:05
nosrednaekimusser: that would be hda then10:05
aceyim prety sure its hda tho10:05
aceykk thanks10:05
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ussernosrednaekim: huh?10:06
ussernosrednaekim: i dont even have hda in /dev10:06
aceywait, if im installing it on the same hd as winxp, will that affect winxp if I ever wanted it normal again without linux at all?10:06
usseracey: yes10:06
nosrednaekimusser: sorry, wrong SN10:06
aceyoo it will affect it?10:06
usseracey: it will overwrite xps boot loader10:06
aceymaybe i shouldnt do that then lol10:06
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aceyhow can I use xps boot loader then again and get rid of grub?10:07
usseracey: grub can boot xp too10:07
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aceyi know im just trying to install a new hd and I didn't want anything to happen to my primary hd that isn't necassary10:07
usseracey: boot from windows cd go to recovery console and issue fixmbr command10:07
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nosrednaekimacey: yeah, you can do that from a windows recovery/install disc10:07
aceyk so just sue the recovery disc that came with my computer and type fixmbr?10:08
nosrednaekimacey: not sure how windows does it... but that sounds right... :)10:08
usseracey: yes10:08
aceyk ill search google for the exact command but thanks usser and nos for the help10:08
aceyill let yah know how it goes10:08
usseracey: this was the exact command lol10:09
DaSkreechit's fixboot for Windows XP10:09
aceyoo ok10:09
usserand sudo grub-install /dev/hda10:09
aceyo wait, then if i use fixmbr will I have to install grub?10:09
aceyor will it go back to normal?10:09
aceyand won't dual boot10:09
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usseracey: when u do fixmbr no dual boot no grub just winxp boot loader10:10
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aceyoo thats what I was wanting, thanks man :)10:10
usseracey: when u do grub dual boot10:10
DaSkreechacey: Anything with windows kills all other OS10:10
DaSkreechWindows always assumes the only thing you want on it is windows10:10
aceylol k thanks10:10
usserDaSkreech: actually not true windows loader can load other os's too not just windows10:10
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DaSkreechusser: I said it  assumes10:11
BluesKajalways better to install windows first, then there's only a small edit in grub to fix the bootloader10:11
nosrednaekimrowr: it works10:11
DaSkreechI didn't say it's not possible10:11
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: its already installed10:11
usserDaSkreech: o ok10:11
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bazhangBluesKaj: always better to install everything first--my good neighbor Kubuntu.10:11
bazhangbest dual boot distro around10:12
BluesKajwindows first bazhang10:12
DaSkreechbazhang: Thats a powerful statement. How did you come to that?10:12
nosrednaekimheh.... all distros are about equal with dual booting now... its just grub.10:12
bazhangDaSkreech: powerful as in bad?10:12
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nosrednaekimas in "sweeping"10:13
BluesKajok , back to the mule job ...4 more bundles and i'm done for today10:13
nosrednaekimas in "doesn't work"10:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about doesn'twork - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:13
DaSkreechbazhang: as in it sounds like you did research. can you back that up10:13
nosrednaekim!doesn't work10:13
ubotuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.10:13
DaSkreechSince .. you know it's using the same software as all the rest of them10:13
bazhangDaSkreech: ok10:13
morphinexuga: so, it turns out that the fix may be as simple as... apt-get update10:13
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morphinexuga: because there was a known bug or something10:14
morphinexuga: thanks for you help10:14
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bazhangDaSkreech: I did a lot of research on it, and Ubuntu, Kubuntu is by far the best for using as a second install--better than Mandriva/PCLOS; way better than Suse, and tons better than Fedora--Wolvix is another that is top of the class in that regard; but nothing comes even remotely close to Ubuntu/Kubuntu.10:15
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devianceWhere would adepts icon be located?10:18
bazhangsorry for the really long off-topic10:18
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 10:19
DaSkreechdeviance: prob /usr/share/icons or somesuch10:19
bazhangisn't that dpkg --configure -a --force? just kidding.10:19
DaSkreech! Woah !10:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about woah ! - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:19
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ffixxxhi is there an easy way to enable compiz(-fusion) in kubuntu gutsy?10:20
stdinffixxx: gutsy help in #ubuntu+1 like the topic says10:20
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bazhangand yes there is.10:21
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bazhanghi Beyer!10:21
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BeyerHii :)10:21
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nosrednaekimBluesKaj: hey... do you know what wekk means?10:23
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BeyerArgh! I'm out of ideas.10:24
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DaSkreechstdin: The topic says that?10:24
DaSkreechoh wait it does :)10:24
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DaSkreechI read #ubuntu-effects ... balh =P10:25
stdinDaSkreech: yeah, because I put it there ;)10:25
BeyerI've disabled the integrated soundcard, installed codecs.. done everything you've said and I've found with google. The sounds wont still work with flashplayer :(10:25
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DaSkreechBeyer: 64bit ?10:25
BeyerOnly with Totem Movie Player10:25
BeyerHmm, maybe I just didn't install the java right? Or could it be the reason10:26
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BeyerDamn enter! :D It's really frustrating to be without youtube like... 3weeks now. Everyone gives urls and you can watch them only without sound. It sucks10:27
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ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash10:28
phaatyeah, but gnash doesn't work properly.10:29
DaSkreechNo I remember there was a page with flash sound problems and how to fix them10:29
ghozalaHELP!!!!!!!!!! i ve installed copmiz-fusion and every time i run it this error appears(This problem report does not apply to a packaged program. (/usr/bin/fusion-icon)) and the application never open10:29
DaSkreechghozala: #ubuntu-effects10:30
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ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects10:32
ichor_I would upgrade, all the way to Feisty. Unfortunately, in my system "gksu" is a command not found. Support pages stress that the alternative way to upgrade  using apt-get  is Not Recommended. They probably know what they're talking about. Are there other alternatives? Does anyone have a suggestion? How do I update without gksu? Thank You!10:33
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jamiliPC (Intel x86) desktop CD10:33
jamilishould dl that one if i'm going to use just for normal use10:33
jamililike playing? idk10:34
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DaSkreech!kdesu  ichor_10:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kdesu  ichor_ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:35
DaSkreech!kdesu | ichor_10:35
ubotuichor_: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo10:35
bazhangstdin: my bad. just a suggested package. sorry.10:35
nosrednaekimjamili: yeah.. that should be fine10:35
devianceCan someone remind me how I check to see if Im running 32 or 64 bit10:36
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devianceAnd how can I see how much of my hard drive is used and how much is empty10:37
stdindeviance: "dpkg --print-architecture" should show you10:37
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BeyerIn console it has  "^X Exit"10:37
stdindeviance: and "df -h"10:37
BeyerSo, how can I exit? It does not make any sense10:37
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jhutchinsdeviance: df -h10:37
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deviancestdin: I'm running i386. I'm about to burn an iso thats i686 what does this mean?10:38
stdinBeyer: ^ = Ctrl10:38
jhutchins!kdesu | ichor_10:38
ubotuichor_: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo10:38
jamilinosrednaekim: ok10:39
devianceAnd df -h worked well :D10:39
stdindeviance: i386 is only the debian package architecture, it would be "amd64" if it was 64bit10:39
devianceOkay, Im about to burn a i686 Fedora ISO is this 32 bit?10:39
stdindeviance: yep10:39
deviance:D Thank you very much10:39
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devianceOnce again saved my live stdin :D10:40
ichor_So, do I just substitute "gksu" for "kdesu"?  That is, should I try "kdesu "update-manager -C""?10:40
devianceMaybe a tad meoldramatic :P10:40
BeyerDaSkreech: Did it, wont help anything.10:40
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stdindeviance: maybe ;)10:40
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DaSkreechBeyer: Hit the forums?10:41
robinsonhow do i set KnetworkManager to connect to a certain wireless AP by default? I have two in my home, and i want to set the secure connection by default10:41
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nosrednaekimrobinson: make the other one untrusted..10:42
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ichor_Using kdesu "update-manager -c" I seem to able to update some applications. What I wish to do is to update the kernel. Thank you.10:53
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ugaichor_: no idea what update-manager is, sorry11:00
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ugaichor_: do you mean adept_manager11:00
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fdovingichor_: does it say 'Your system is up-to-date' ?11:01
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bcherryany kubuntu users here ever have problems with apps just not starting?11:04
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ichor_What I meant is that I want to update the "Ubuntu operating system" to Feisty. Does it matter that I am (mostly) using KDE? Isn't the underlying operating system the same whether I use Gnome or KDE on top of it?11:04
fdoving!upgrade | ichor_11:04
ubotuichor_: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)11:04
ugabcherry: that's strange. Running the application from command line says something?11:04
bcherryichor_: yes you are correct11:04
bcherryuga: yeah everything seems fine11:05
bcherrykonversation is the main thing that just wouldn't ever load11:05
bcherryit would leave a process running, but never come u11:05
bcherryvmware is doing the same thing right now11:05
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bcherryfresh install btw (read: two days old)11:06
bcherrybut im viewing it as an oppurtunity to try something new11:06
ichor_Hi fdovig. What is it that you mean would say that my system is up-to-date?11:06
EddieHello, Firefox crash on print preview. Any fix?11:06
bcherryi think im gonna dump kubuntu and go opensuse 10.3 until gutsy11:06
bcherrythen come home to my loved one (kubuntu)11:06
Dr_willisfor a whole 2 weeks? :)11:06
bcherryhaha yeah11:06
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fdovingichor_: no, just ignore that, i didn't understand what you wanted until you said you wanted a full upgrade to feisty. Have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for the details on upgrading.11:07
Dr_willisusing gutsy right now. :)11:07
bcherryit gave me troubles on my laptop : (11:07
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Dr_willisbcherry,  thats the nature of Beta software11:07
Dr_willisbcherry,  been about 50+mb of updated a day here over the last week11:07
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bcherryDr_willis: i know, its just the first beta ubuntu that i dumped since breezy11:08
bcherryi've been consistently upgrading to +1 aroudn the first beta11:08
bcherrybut gutsy didnt offer anything for me11:08
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prakis it true that gutsy is coming out on oct 18?11:10
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Dr_willisprak,  ive not heard of any delays.. so i think its still true11:11
Dr_willisNot to say they couldent do a  delay...11:11
prakare you using the beta version?11:12
Dr_willisyes i am prak11:12
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EddieI guess that no can answer my question11:13
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Dr_willisEddie,  not seen that happen.. so dont know of any fix. check the forums?11:13
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EddieOK, Thanks.11:14
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VSpikeIs there any way to use apport or any similar tool to trap and report crashes from KDE apps?11:14
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stdinVSpike: I would say ask in -devel, but it's a weekend so you'll get no joy11:15
VSpikeare you saying linux users have lives? what is the world coming to11:16
ubotuIt's a weekend.  Often on weekends, the paid developers, and a lot of the community, may not be around to answer your question.  Please be patient, wait longer than you normally would, or try again during the working week.11:16
VSpikeit's wierd, because I've seen apport reports for kde apps on launchpad11:17
VSpikeso it must be possible somehow11:17
bazhangstdin: thanks. later.11:17
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poison--X crashes on me saying it cant find X11/fonts11:18
poison--any ideas guys?11:18
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poison--wont boot to X anymore11:18
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ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto11:19
ichor_I have had a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes. They tell me to use gksu "update-manager -c". Unfortunately, in my system, "gksu" is a command not found. Support pages stress that the alternative way to upgrade  using apt-get  is Not Recommended. They probably know what they're talking about. I probably need to use some alternative method. Some of you have recommended using "kdesu". The command kdesu11:19
ichor_"update-manager -c" does not update my system, however, merely some applications. The information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes does not explain how to upgrade the operating system from within KDE.11:19
Kachnaichor_: use kdesu then11:19
ichor_OK.  How?11:20
Kachnaor just in console type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" if u wanna update :-)11:20
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ichor_Just "kdesu" and nothing more?11:21
Kachnabut while using KDE && root applications,just replace gksu by kdesu :-)11:21
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Kachnawell the easiest way is typing kdesu adept_manager11:21
atlfalcons866when is gusty gibbon being released11:22
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information11:22
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stdinfollow the link11:22
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poison--stdin, any ideas on my issue?11:22
stdinpoison--: never seen that problem11:22
ichor_Kachna: Should I use -c, as when I use "update-manager"?11:23
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stdinhave you tried reconfiguring X?11:24
poison--dpkg reconfigure?11:24
Kachnaichor_: nope U don't need that :-)11:24
poison--i even tried sumtin i found in a forum, but no luck11:24
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stdinhave you made sure all the packages are installed? "sudo aptitude install ubuntu-minimal ubuntu-standard kubuntu-desktop"11:25
poison--will try that11:26
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poison--or else i have to reinstall and download all the updates again11:26
DaSkreech!info apport-qt11:27
ubotuapport-qt: Qt4 frontend for the apport crash report system. In component main, is optional. Version 0.76.1 (feisty), package size 35 kB, installed size 88 kB11:27
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weswh-what do you guys recommend for playing/subscribing to podcasts? I don't know if Amarok does that or not - but I would ideally like to keep away from that since I use it for all of my music - and have an app specifically for Podcasts. Similar to a newsreader...anything out there?11:27
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DaSkreechVSpike: ^^^11:28
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DaSkreechweswh-: Amarok does do it. It can stream download or auto download if you like11:28
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weswh-know of anything else?11:29
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DaSkreechweswh-: not off the top of my head. Amarok worked nicely for me so  I just left it what are you looking for?11:30
DaSkreechA standalone podcast app?11:30
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VSpikeDaSkreech: yeah, I've used that in kde, but it doesn't help because it's only the front end to send apport crash logs to launchpad - it doesn't make crashing kde apps generate apport data11:30
niyadosome one can give me the ubuntu-es channel?11:30
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DaSkreechVSpike: Ah Yeah there is probably some Debug package11:31
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.11:31
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ichor_Kachna: Tried your suggestion: "adept_manager not found".11:31
VSpikeDaSkreech: because you don't get the apport notification in kde, you have to manually run /usr/share/apport/apport-qt periodically11:31
weswh-yeah basically...I am not really into it - I just want to check some out. So ideally if I had a separate app, just keep it in its own world. So it doesn't mess up my playlists etc.11:31
weswh-maybe Amarok has its own tab for podcasts though11:31
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DaSkreechtry kitty11:31
DaSkreech!info kitty11:31
ubotukitty: a Qt/KDE based RSS podcast and video aggregator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.2-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 246 kB, installed size 648 kB11:31
Kachnaichor_: mmm then u need a console11:31
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ichor_I'm working in a console11:32
DaSkreech!info podracer11:32
ubotupodracer: podcast aggregator/downloader. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4-1 (feisty), package size 12 kB, installed size 96 kB11:32
DaSkreechweswh-: it does11:32
Kachnajust open one and type sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install adept11:32
yeniklasorrCan you tell me a good and fast package server ?11:32
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Dr_willisyeniklasorr,  they are all taking a beating today (well for the last week)11:33
Kachnaah k,was talking about gksu so i thought u use gui :-)11:33
fdovingyeniklasorr: se.archive.ubuntu.com is usually fast from europe atleast.11:33
yeniklasorrDr_willis : What beating11:34
yeniklasorrfdoving : looking11:34
Dr_willisbeen ooodles of updates for gutsy lately.11:34
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VSpikeman, there's some sucky software in this world11:36
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hirschihi, i need some help best in german language11:40
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hirschican somebody help me?11:40
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ichor_Was wollen sie dann, Hirschi?11:40
hirschiich habe probleme mit dem browser konquer, der will nicht ins web11:41
hirschider chat hier funktioniert, pingen kann ich auch ueberall hin11:41
hirschiwas kann das sein?11:41
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ichor_Haben sie Firefox probieren?11:42
ichor_Es ist besser, ich glaube.11:42
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ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de11:43
hirschija is besser, nur warum geht konquer nicht?11:43
hirschiui danke11:43
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ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de11:43
ichor_Das weiss ich nicht. Entschuldigung.11:44
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hirschiok danke ich schau mal in nem deutschen channel11:45
VSpikewhat does "Gesamtkunstwerk" mean?11:45
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ugaVSpike: sausages with cabbage11:45
ugacan't be anything else ;)11:45
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ugaVSpike: well, the other option was beer, but I know that's "bier"11:51
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ugaanyway, their *wurst with sauerkraut isn't that bad. I was there this same year11:52
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DaSkreechI don't know why you say goodbye when I say Hello11:55
weswh-how do i check my kubuntu version?11:55
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stdin!version | weswh-11:55
ubotuweswh-: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell11:55
digberti forgot how i solved this in the past, but i installed the latest nvidia driver from the nvidia site, and now all my ttys make the monitor show "frequency out of range."11:55
digbertanyone know how to fix that? i have an 8300 GS on kubuntu feisty fawn (7.04)11:55
digbertno nvidia* packages installed, no linux-restricted-modules-* packages installed11:56
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blendtuxi  am looking for a news client for kde, cause knode is not working correctly11:57
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daddyI have a problem with my Scanner. I get a message like ...Failed to open Device 'artec_eplus48u:libusb:002:006 Invalid argument. What does this mean???11:57
weswh-has anyone seen the "Kickoff" start menu that Suse has implemented into their latest release?11:57
ubotuKickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/233111:58
weswh-I keep hearing rumblings that Suse is the premiere KDE platform11:58
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Dr_williswas that a kickoff?11:59
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Dr_willisor a kickoff replacement?11:59
weswh-DaSkreech: any word from kubuntu in terms of interest in it?11:59
Dr_willisLinux Mint - i Though had a similer replacement menu for KDE.11:59
weswh-it looks pretty cool11:59
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Dr_willisnot sure if it came from suse;s stuff or not11:59
DaSkreechweswh-: Well I'm sure someone packages it for Kubuntu11:59
stdinunless KDE adopts it, I guess it won't be default11:59
DaSkreechKDE is adopting it12:00
deviancestdin: I am using the manual settings for connecting to my WiFi network, is there a command line way of checking how strong the connection is or what my maxium speed is or anything12:00
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stdinDaSkreech:  as default for the KMenu?12:00
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stdindeviance: iwconfig12:00
scott_dennisterhey channel, having a bit of a problem with an older, spare video card...a riva tnt2...i've enabled the legacy nvidia drivers, but can't get a resolution smaller than 800x800...can anyone help me with this?12:00
devianceThank you12:00
weswh-when they say 7.10 won't be the next long term support release - does that mean that unless you have specific needs you should stick with 7.04?12:01
stdinweswh-: 7.04 isn's LTS either12:01
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weswh-personally I would be upgrading in hopes of any increased performance, and stability out of KDE - and of course access to newer audited versions of the software I use12:01
weswh-hmm, good to know.12:01
DaSkreechstdin: yes12:02
stdinDaSkreech: in what version?12:02
DaSkreechKDE 4.012:02
daddyDoes anybody know anything about Xsane?12:02
DaSkreechKDE 4.1 will probaby remove it12:02
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stdinDaSkreech: I would have thought it'd be a plasmoid then12:02
scott_dennisteranyone? for an xorg smaller resolution problem?12:02
DaSkreechProbably will be12:03
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weyersrw_I am trying to make knetwork manager work to find wireless networks Grrrr it is not helping at all and I does not seem to be in control12:05
scott_dennisterty bot :)12:06
weyersrw_also I am useing gutsy12:06
Lucian0hey, is it not detecting the wireless network?12:06
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weyersrw_no but I can configure the network man12:06
daddyHave a question about Xsane.12:06
fdovingweyersrw_: make sure there is no reference to your wireless device in /etc/network/interfaces - if it's mentioned there knetworkmanager won't touch it.12:07
weyersrw_Tis there12:07
weyersrw_see it in wlan system settings cannot figure out how to turn auto on as it seems that gutsys system settings took over12:08
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ugaweyersrw_: does kwifimanager help?12:09
ICXCNIKAI was thinking of switching to a Linux distro. Are there any advantages that Kubuntu has over openSUSE (another distro I am considering?)12:09
DaSkreechICXCNIKA: If you like it sure..12:09
weyersrw_not loaded as to many cooks in the kitchen already12:10
DaSkreechICXCNIKA: Personally I like the #kubuntu community12:10
Dr_willisthen theres the whole 'apt' vs 'rpm' flamewar12:10
digbertanyway, anyone know how to fix the out of range error i asked about a little while ago?12:11
sub[t] rnlapt > *12:11
scott_dennistergonna restartx12:11
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weyersrw_> auto lo12:11
weyersrw_> iface lo inet loopback12:12
weyersrw_> address
weyersrw_> netmask
weyersrw_> iface wifi0 inet dhcp12:12
weyersrw_> wireless-essid P12:12
ICXCNIKADaSkreech: I see. Well I just want my hardware to be supported.12:12
weyersrw_> auto wifi012:12
weyersrw_> iface wifi1 inet dhcp12:12
weyersrw_> iface wlan0 inet dhcp12:12
weyersrw_> wireless-essid P12:12
weyersrw_> auto wlan012:12
weyersrw_interfaces looks like this12:12
DaSkreechICXCNIKA: Live CD is the fastest way to find out12:13
SanneICXCNIKA: the Microsoft-Novell deal might also be a reason to be at least a bit wary of products they're involved in12:13
sub[t] rnlhehe12:13
Dr_willisbeen cleanign house all day12:13
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MinatakuWhere are my Amigas? XD12:13
Dr_willisburied under piles of other things at the moment..12:13
Dr_willistrying to get me a table or 2 setup12:13
Dr_williswife decided to clean out the basement FINIALLY12:13
weyersrw_ICXCNIKA>I have used alot of different versions in my testing and I came back to Kubuntu from suse and mepis12:13
ugaMinataku: your friends?12:14
Dr_williswe have literally a Pickup truck load of Blankets. shes going through.12:14
MinatakuNo rush, of course, but could you try to send those to me some time?12:14
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sub[t] rnlDr_willis: made the wife do it eh?12:14
sub[t] rnl:P12:14
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sub[t] rnlatta baby12:14
Dr_willissub[t] rnl,  she got engertic and wanted some blankets with the winter comming.. so i brought them ALL up.12:14
ICXCNIKASanne: I just fear that Novell might end up pulling the plug on the openSUSE program anyway.12:14
sub[t] rnlhehe12:14
sub[t] rnli take it there were quite a few?12:14
weyersrw_What kind of harware12:14
MinatakuI'd love to add the Amigas to my computer collection, but if I don't have them, it's kind of hard. XD12:14
Dr_willissub[t] rnl,  literally a Pickup truck bed full...12:15
sub[t] rnlrofl12:15
Dr_willisMinataku,  yep. I was trying to access their hard drives via usb on a linux box the other day.. couldent do it. :(12:15
MinatakuI've got spare 3.5" IDE HDDs12:15
Dr_willisso  i guess i aint going to be transferign stuff from them.. not that i need any of their stuff12:15
SanneICXCNIKA: yeah, you'll never know. Well, as you're in #kubuntu, you'll might get some recommendations of this nice distro anyway :). The community is indeed great.12:15
MinatakuSo that's no trouble12:15
Dr_willisthey use laptop sized hd's12:15
Dr_willisunless ya got some adaptors12:15
MinatakuIf I manage to get anything off of them12:15
weyersrw_<fdoving> If I take it out then will the knetwork manager work with it12:15
Minataku2.5" is what I meant12:15
ugaMinataku: you should get one of those Spectrums with loads of memory packed so that they run kubuntu12:15
Dr_willisNot that i need stuff from them... just playing with them.12:16
fdovingweyersrw_: if you want network-manager to manage your devices, just remove everything after and including the line: 'iface wifi0 inet dhcp' in /etc/network/interfaces - you could make a backup of that file of course.12:16
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MinatakuDr_willis: k12:16
Dr_willisi was trying to put one in my broke laptop.. but the HD from the amiga is thicker then the laptop hd.12:16
Dr_willisnever knew they came in differant thicknesses12:16
MinatakuWell, if you could, try to expedite the shipping on them XD12:16
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MinatakuYeah, the older ones were usually thicker12:16
Dr_willisMinataku,  :) send me the address again. ill print it out here in Big letters.12:17
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MinatakuThat is, send them last-class shipping, cheapest option12:17
MinatakuBut try to actually get them out XD12:17
fdovingweyersrw_: yes, it will. it might need a restart, '/etc/dbus-1/event.d/25NetworkManager restart' to fetch the changes.12:17
MinatakuIf you can't, no rush, like I said12:17
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Dr_willisI got the weekend off.. I have one in a box allready.. but its not very well protected.12:17
Dr_willisBut i got lots of spare blankets i can wrap it in! then box it up now.12:17
sub[t] rnlhaha12:18
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MinatakuDr_willis: Address PM'd12:18
MinatakuAnd thanks X312:18
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MinatakuI've still got to get around to messing with the two big calculators12:19
MinatakuBut like I said, the other two are working12:19
Dr_willisyep. im at a point in my life i can LOOK around the house and find 12+ things i need to do.. then the wife adds another 5 while im doing one...12:19
MinatakuThe two LED ones that are running have slight issues with key bounce, though12:19
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Dr_willisbut at least shes CLEANING out the junk!12:19
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MinatakuFind any other interesting computers in your basement?12:20
Dr_willisClean out the basement has been a 2 year job for her.12:20
Dr_willisGOt an iMAC DV. and some old pc's12:20
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Dr_willisa Few C64's12:20
Dr_willisthats about all i got left.12:20
MinatakuThe iMac is no doubt too heavy12:20
Dr_willisand of course these heavy CRT;s12:20
MinatakuI don't take PCs unless they're laptops12:20
Dr_willisI got an old sony laptop. it needs a HD. and its broke in half. :) going to fix it for the kids someday...12:21
MinatakuPerhaps a C64 or two if you don't want them12:21
Dr_willisits my live-cd test bed.12:21
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Dr_willisI got a Vic-20 also12:21
MinatakuAnd the chips out of those PCs if you throw them away12:21
MinatakuBEcause I collect ICs12:21
MinatakuCPUs, EPROMs, the like12:21
mark_hey all12:21
MinatakuAnd RAM and any interesting cards12:21
Dr_willisheh. ill see what i can grab at work from the various High $$$ controller cards.12:21
MinatakuSend those if you would, too12:21
Dr_willisfrom CNC machines and stuff.12:22
MinatakuCool :D12:22
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MinatakuYeah, I'd love some exotic chips12:22
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MinatakuJust don't get in trouble X312:22
Dr_willisYep. :) well iof they thow the whole thing away..  its junk. :) i can be taking it aprart to look at it.. :)12:22
Dr_willisgot some cooling fans from HUGE dc motors that can take a hand off..12:22
MinatakuI actually got two Intel 80960CA chips out of two high-end SCSI server cards12:23
Dr_willisthe things literally hover off the table about an inch.12:23
MinatakuThose were cool12:23
mark4931thats cool that there is a chat channel just for kubuntu owners already built in to kubuntu12:23
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Dr_willisOk. i will go clean the basement some more . and box up some stuff for ya.12:23
MinatakuYeah, the three A1200s, the one PSU, maybe a C64 or two and any cool chips you can find, I'll take 'em all :D12:23
Dr_willisYour dad wont get mad again?12:23
mark4931you have instante friends12:23
MinatakuI cleaned my room12:23
mark4931and instante help12:23
MinatakuSo he shouldn't be too angry about it12:23
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Dr_willisill label them 'school supplies' :)12:24
Dr_willisor 'your latex novelties'12:24
MinatakuLabel them "Calculators"12:24
MinatakuOr something small like that12:24
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MinatakuLabel them "Parts for school work"12:24
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mark4931so does anyone know how to change the screen resolution higher that 1024 x62012:24
Dr_willisOk. :)12:24
MinatakuThat'll work very well :312:24
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Dr_williswell off to clean. see ya later. wife is YELLING again...12:25
MinatakuSince I _am_ in Computer Engineering Technology :D12:25
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sub[t] rnlsee ya dr12:25
MinatakuHeehee, escape to the basement ^^12:25
sub[t] rnlmark4931: add the appropriate modes into xorg.conf12:25
mark4931my laptop supports 1400 x 900 but i cant get it to that resolution12:25
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sub[t] rnl!resolution12:25
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto12:25
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sub[t] rnltry that link12:26
mark4931how do i do that?12:26
mark4931ok ill take a look at that web page12:26
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mark4931it doesnt have intel on there12:31
mark4931i have intel 956 or something for a video card12:32
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mark4931this is the window to configure xserver12:32
weyersrw__fdoving are you still here12:32
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fdovingweyersrw__: yes.12:33
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sub[t] rnlmark4931: what video card do you have?12:36
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mark4931intel mobile 945gm12:37
sub[t] rnlok, you'll want to install the latest intel driver then12:38
mark4931how do i do that?..12:38
stdintry installing "xserver-xorg-video-intel" and change "i810" to "intel" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:39
sub[t] rnluse apt-get to install it12:39

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