[12:39] <addyk> ubuntu__ installing? :)
[12:41] <x_link> Hi all Kubuntu-users =)
[12:43] <addyk> Hey x_link
[12:43] <nosrednaekim> hello x_link
[12:43] <addyk> Anyway... ready to test... BRB
[12:43] <x_link> Does anybody here use Gutsy?
[12:43] <felipe_> hello
[12:43] <x_link> Does anybody here use Gutsy right now?
[12:43] <x_link> Sorry, typo.
[12:44] <FSHero> g2g... restarting time!
[12:44] <FSHero> thanks everyone for the help :D
[12:44] <x_link> So nobody is using Gutsy? =(
[12:45] <nosrednaekim> x_link: yeah... I do
[12:45] <x_link> Ahh nice =)
[12:45] <x_link> I need help with something.
[12:45] <nosrednaekim> x_link: gutsy support is in #ubuntu+1, i'm over there too
[12:45] <x_link> Okej, sorry!
[12:47] <addyk> Thanks nosrednaekim it's now working fine :)
[12:47] <flo> hey leute ich muss mal meine grube aufrumen wie mach ich das? da sind tausenden ubuntu winodws kernel drinne
[12:47] <nosrednaekim> addyk: great :)
[12:47] <addyk> flo that's german right?
[12:47] <addyk> :)
[12:47] <flo> uppps
[12:48] <melody> Hello.  I need help on upgrading a package
[12:48] <flo> mi scusi
[12:49] <addyk> melody:  what package?
[12:49] <addyk> flo no matter :D hello! :D (I only know english and romanian) :)
[12:49] <nosrednaekim> melody: ok... which one?
[12:50] <addyk> Meh, anyway, I have to go now :) see you later #kubuntu :)
[12:51] <nosrednaekim> bye addyk
[12:51] <melody> well.  My restricted drivers aren't working since my update.   It is linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22.13-generic.     I cannot use my wifi intel pro card on my laptop anymore. and when I try to get adept to upgrade that package it just says "break" and fails.
[12:51] <kinkajou> hey guys i need some help, i need to enable direct rendering on my ati radeon 9800. ive tried many tuts and i cant get any to work.... plz help <3
[12:52] <quixogre> hello all :)
[12:52] <kinkajou> anyone = /
[12:53] <nosrednaekim> kinkajou: yup... whats the problem
[12:53] <quixogre> kinkajou: missed the question. whats up?
[12:53] <melody> of course, it doesn't say WHY that package 'breaks'...just some generic conflict message
[12:53] <kinkajou>  i need some help, i need to enable direct rendering on my ati radeon 9800. ive tried many tuts and i cant get any to work.... plz help <3
[12:53] <quixogre> !ati
[12:53] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:53] <nosrednaekim> melody: try intslling it from the command line
[12:53] <kinkajou> well i have the ati driver installed
[12:54] <nosrednaekim> kinkajou: at what point do you have problems?
[12:54] <kinkajou> well i need it enabled to run windows games in wine, but idk i cant get it working
[12:54] <kinkajou> iam a complete noob heh
[12:55] <quixogre> kinkajou: sounds like you need directX to work in wine...good luck with that
[12:55] <kinkajou> no i read you didnt
[12:55] <nosrednaekim> kinkajou: what does "glxinfo | grep direct rendering" say?
[12:55] <quixogre> kinkajou: directx and wine dont mix very well
[12:55] <nosrednaekim> kinkajou: don't worry, lets just get this set up first
[12:55] <nosrednaekim> you can do directx in wine
[12:56] <kinkajou> name of display: :0.0
[12:56] <kinkajou> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[12:56] <kinkajou> display: :0  screen: 0
[12:56] <kinkajou> direct rendering: No
[12:56] <kinkajou> server glx vendor string: SGI
[12:56] <kinkajou> server glx version string: 1.2
[12:56] <kinkajou> server glx extensions:
[12:56] <nosrednaekim> !paste
[12:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:56] <nosrednaekim> kinkajou: ok, pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:56] <kinkajou> how? XD
[12:57] <nosrednaekim> you can read it with the command "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[12:57] <kinkajou> k did that
[12:57] <nosrednaekim> kinkajou: pastebin it
[12:58] <NickPresta> kinkajou, do we know each other?
[12:58] <kinkajou> idk
[12:58] <NickPresta> would you happen to know of YMAT?
[12:58] <kinkajou> how do i pastebin?
[12:58] <nosrednaekim> !pastebin
[12:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:58] <kinkajou> lol
[12:59] <Ahmuck> i'm looking for linux sound board softare
[12:59] <kinkajou> !pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:59] <BluesKaj> kinkajou, you should try the ATI new experimental driver 8.41.7...it works very well on my X200G , but you have to choose the HD2900 on the driver page
[01:00] <melody> so, if I wanted to try to install from the command line, linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22.13-generic.... what would be the package I'd try to get?   I tried "apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22.13-generic" but it gave me some smack about not being available
[01:00] <nosrednaekim> kinkajou: no... go to that page and paste it THERE.
[01:00] <kinkajou> lol
[01:00] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: thats getting a bit more complicated..
[01:00] <kinkajou> ok
[01:00] <quixogre> melody: running kde?
[01:01] <melody> yes
[01:01] <BluesKaj> yes nosrednaekim , but he's been trying for days and nothing is working for him
[01:01] <melody> kubuntu 7.10
[01:01] <quixogre> melody ALT+F2 type in adept_manager
[01:01] <nosrednaekim> kinkajou: it could be a somple problem that I know of in his Xorg.
[01:01] <ctothej> how can i stop a driver/module from loading on startup?
[01:01] <kinkajou> k i copied it now what? XD
[01:01] <melody> I'm in adept_manager
[01:02] <ctothej> i put it in the blacklist file in /etc/modprobe.d, but it still loads
[01:02] <nosrednaekim> ctothej: put it in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[01:02] <Dracari> can anyone help me with Wireless configuring w/ Kubuntu (PC vers)
[01:02] <nosrednaekim> ctothej: did you say "blacklist <driver name>"?
[01:02] <quixogre> melody: type restricted in the search window
[01:02] <BluesKaj> ctothej, open auto-start and edit the file with permission
[01:02] <melody> done.
[01:02] <nosrednaekim> Dracari: sure.
[01:03] <kinkajou> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39718/
[01:03] <ctothej> nosrednaekim: the entry i put in: "blacklist sky2"
[01:03] <kinkajou> there? right? lol
[01:03] <ctothej> BluesKaj: open auto-start?
[01:03] <Dracari> i have a Linksys "Instant Wireless" PCI card Model # WMP11 V2.7
[01:03] <melody> quixogre: I see listed "linux-restricted-modules-generic"
[01:03] <quixogre> melody: installed or no?
[01:04] <Dracari> and when i try to enable it it just gets disabled 2 seconds later
[01:04] <melody> not installed
[01:04] <nosrednaekim> Dracari: it works for those 2 minutes though?
[01:04] <Dracari> no
[01:04] <quixogre> melody change to installed, then aply changes
[01:04] <nosrednaekim> ctothej: humm.
[01:04] <kinkajou> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39718/
[01:04] <Dracari> it was able to detect the card
[01:04] <melody> quixogre: "break (install)"
[01:05] <Dracari> (just 30 mins ago finished installing kubuntu
[01:05] <BluesKaj> ctothej, alt+F2 ,kdesu konqueror /usr/share/autostart
[01:05] <ctothej> nosrednaekim: yeah, not sure why it started. i can "rmmod sky2" without a problem afterwards, but I dont want it to load in the first place.
[01:05] <kinkajou> who wanted my Xorg?
[01:05] <nosrednaekim> ctothej: maybe sky2 is the dependency of another module
[01:06] <melody> quixogre: earlier, it was installed but was marked "upgradable".. HOWEVER I couldn't get it to upgrade because it would just come back with "break (install)"
[01:06] <melody> and without this upgrade my wifi card doesn't work
[01:06] <ctothej> nosrednaekim: hmm, nothing seems to break when I unload it...
[01:07] <ctothej> BluesKaj: /usr/share/autostart folder items get loaded on each boot?
[01:07] <nosrednaekim> ctothej: yeah. thats odd
[01:07] <BluesKaj> yup
[01:07] <ctothej> BluesKaj:  for KDE only?
[01:07] <nosrednaekim> kinkajou: ah... ok you need to add something to your xorg.conf
[01:07] <BluesKaj> dunno, ctothej ...don't use gnome
[01:07] <kinkajou> k
[01:08] <quixogre> melody: sudo apt-get upgrade linux-restricted-modules-generic
[01:08] <melody> so... what do you do when you need to upgrade a package and it just comes back with "break (install)"?
[01:09] <nosrednaekim> kinkajou: open the file with "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and paste this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ at the end of the file, after a blank line
[01:10] <nosrednaekim> !hardware | Dracari look up your car on this page
[01:10] <ubotu> Dracari look up your car on this page: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[01:10] <nosrednaekim> kinkajou: whoops, wrong link
[01:11] <melody> quixogre: well, upgrade did nothing because the package isn't installed currently.,  So I tried with "install" and it reported back "Linux-restricted-modules-generic: Depends: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22.-13-generic but it is not installable.  broken package"
[01:11] <nosrednaekim> kinkajou: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39720/
[01:11] <erisch> hi
[01:11] <nosrednaekim> melody: thats gutsy, go to #ubuntu+1
[01:11] <kinkajou> add to the very end?
[01:12] <melody> ok
[01:12] <nosrednaekim> melody: where someone ust reported the same bug.... talk to usser.
[01:12] <nosrednaekim> kinkajou: yeah
[01:12] <kinkajou> k, then just save/close?
[01:12] <nosrednaekim> kinkajou: yeah
[01:12] <nosrednaekim> kinkajou: and restart x
[01:13] <kinkajou> kk
[01:13] <nosrednaekim> kinkajou: and I have to go... tlak to BluesKaj if you have any problems
[01:13] <kinkajou> k ty
[01:13] <nosrednaekim> YW
[01:15] <gottaloveicecrea> hey guys
[01:15] <Dracari> nose
[01:15] <Dracari> be4 u go
[01:16] <Dracari> its getting seen as a broadcom bcm4303
[01:16] <ereslibre> how can i set the default compiler on my kubuntu system to icecc ?
[01:16] <ereslibre> update-alternatives says that there is no alternative for c++ or g++
[01:16] <x_link> Back again.
[01:16] <x_link> Doooh, now I forgot the nick of the person who just helped me =/
[01:17] <markgreene> Hey guys. How do I reset all my sound settings to the default? WHat should I re-install
[01:17] <x_link> Who was just helping me?
[01:17] <purpleposeidon> x_link: Don't worry. If you can remember who it was, it means you've been spending too much time on IRC.
[01:17] <x_link> purpleposeidon: He was helping me for like 3 minutes ago.
[01:17] <x_link> Just don't remember the nick.
[01:17] <purpleposeidon> Ah, then that would be something....
[01:18] <x_link> =/
[01:18] <x_link> purpleposeidon: Can you please scroll up a bit and see who it was?
[01:18] <x_link> Just like 3-5 minutes bac.
[01:18] <x_link> back.
[01:18] <x_link> I would appreciate it alot.
[01:19] <purpleposeidon> [15:49]  <nosrednaekim> x_link: gutsy support is in #ubuntu+1, i'm over there too
[01:19] <x_link> I have a small problem right now.
[01:19] <x_link> ahh yes.
[01:19] <x_link> Baah, he went offline =/
[01:19] <x_link> Well well
[01:19] <x_link> I have a small problem.
[01:19] <x_link> purpleposeidon: maybe you can help me =)
[01:20] <x_link> Before in kControl I could go to Input Actions --> Konsole --> and I choosed that Alt+k would open konsole.
[01:20] <quixogre> real quick. whats dhp stand for? dynamic host carrier protocol right?
[01:20] <x_link> But it doesn't work anymore.
[01:20] <purpleposeidon> konversation keeps logs in ~/.kde/share/apps/konversation; if that's what you're using
[01:20] <x_link> It worked earlier today.
[01:20] <purpleposeidon> I think you can set shortcuts in menu editor
[01:20] <BluesKaj> x_link, whynot just put the konsole in the panel
[01:21] <x_link> kControl --> Regional & Accessibility --> Input Actions. That's empty for me now. I don't see the settings that was there before.
[01:21] <x_link> BluesKaj: Cause I want it like this.
[01:21] <x_link> Comfortable.
[01:21] <x_link> So I don't need to grab my mouse everytime I want to open it.
[01:21] <x_link> It may sound a bit silly, but I still want it like that =)
[01:21] <purpleposeidon> I'd do logokey-k, myself.
[01:21] <BluesKaj> er, what's uncomfortable about one click ?
[01:22] <x_link> Could somebody please help me with this?
[01:22] <x_link> BluesKaj: I just want it like this.
[01:22] <purpleposeidon> x_link: It's not silly, it's efficient. Most everything needs the keyboard.
[01:22] <BluesKaj> sorry , someone else might humour you , but I won't :)
[01:23] <hitmanWilly> ok, what did i come in on here?
[01:23] <BluesKaj> BBL...chores to do
[01:23] <x_link> purpleposeidon: Yeah I know.
[01:23] <x_link> purpleposeidon: But I don't know how to fix that now =/
[01:23] <purpleposeidon> x_link: right click on Kmenu > Menu Editor > Find the Konsole program (under System?) > Shortcut key
[01:23] <x_link> Cause Input Actions doesn't look the same now.
[01:24] <x_link> purpleposeidon: Hurmm?
[01:25] <x_link> purpleposeidon: I don't want the konsole-icon on my desktop.
[01:25] <x_link> I already have that.
[01:25] <purpleposeidon> Don't worry, since I didn't just tell you to do that.
[01:25] <x_link> I don't have Menu Editor.
[01:25] <x_link> purpleposeidon: hehe okej, sorry.
[01:25] <hitmanWilly> heh, my konsole, err, eterm in my case, is set to win-space
[01:26] <x_link> hitmanWilly: Do you use Gutusy?
[01:26] <x_link> Gutsy
[01:26] <purpleposeidon> Well, I don't know what changes they made in gutsy, so....
[01:26] <x_link> purpleposeidon: I don't have menu editor =/
[01:26] <hitmanWilly> x_link: yes, on my buntu box anyway
[01:27] <x_link> hitmanWilly: Kubuntu or Ubuntu?
[01:27] <hitmanWilly> k
[01:27] <hitmanWilly> kubuntu
[01:27] <x_link> opps. forgot this is the Kubuntu channel. lol
[01:28] <x_link> hitmanWilly: How do you do that?
[01:28] <x_link> I did that in Feisty and it worked very well.
[01:28] <x_link> But I don't see the same settings in with Gutsy.
[01:28] <hitmanWilly> should work more or less the same on gutsy
[01:28] <x_link> purpleposeidon: Can you just explain one more time?
[01:28] <x_link> Cause I don't see Menu Editor.
[01:28] <x_link> hitmanWilly: I will show you a screenshot.
[01:29] <purpleposeidon> right clicking on the K of happiness should give you a link to Mr. Menu Editor.
[01:29] <hitmanWilly> hmm...just saved my settings when i migrated over
[01:29] <x_link> purpleposeidon: Okej, thanks.
[01:30] <purpleposeidon> Actually, just run kmenuedit
[01:30] <x_link> purpleposeidon: Ohhh. now I found it.
[01:30] <x_link> purpleposeidon: You have to excuse me. My english isn't that good. So sometimes it gets a bit hard for me to understand.
[01:30] <hitmanWilly> and here we see the achilles heel of the gui interface :)
[01:31] <hitmanWilly> and yes im aware that was redundant
[01:31] <x_link> YEEEEES! =)
[01:31] <x_link> purpleposeidon: THANKS ALOT!
[01:31] <x_link> Now Alt+k works again =)
[01:31] <x_link> Damn nice =)
[01:32] <purpleposeidon> indeed.
[01:32] <x_link> purpleposeidon: Man, thanks ALOT. I really appreciate it alot. Thanks!
[01:32] <purpleposeidon> ....until next reboot. ;)
[01:32] <x_link> =)
[01:32] <purpleposeidon> hitmanWilly: do you mean the RUN COMMAND?
[01:32] <x_link> Now I must get something to get.
[01:32] <x_link> hurmm
[01:32] <x_link> That was totaly wrong.
[01:32] <purpleposeidon> better get going on that
[01:33] <usser> yea get to work
[01:33] <x_link> Now I must get something to eat =)
[01:33] <x_link> Bye!
[01:33] <hitmanWilly> purpleposeidon: ?
[01:33] <Sorry> Can someone help me?
[01:33] <pillowpants> how do you enable glx
[01:33] <Sorry> I'm trying to join #ubuntu
[01:33] <purpleposeidon> Scary, I actually read that as "eat" the first time...
[01:33] <pillowpants> i have the drivers for my card working, but openGL isnt working
[01:33] <hitmanWilly> pillowpants: nvidia or ati?
[01:33] <UbuntuRules> Any idea why I can't join #ubuntu ?
[01:34] <pillowpants> hitmanWilly : nvidia
[01:34] <usser> UbuntuRules: ban?
[01:34] <hitmanWilly> UbuntuRules: did you get banned?
[01:34] <usser> )
[01:34] <hitmanWilly> pillowpants: ok, in a cmd line run sudo nvidia-xconfig
[01:34] <hitmanWilly> pillowpants: then restart X
[01:35] <pillowpants> hitmanWilly : i need to install it
[01:35] <hitmanWilly> pillowpants: it should install with the nvidia pkg
[01:35] <pillowpants> hitmanWilly : i just installed the drivers, but not glx, i guess thats why
[01:35] <UbuntuRules> It says my address is banned.
[01:36] <hitmanWilly> pillowpants: ok, apt -glx then
[01:37] <pillowpants> hitmanWilly : ive got nvidia-glx-legacy installed
[01:37] <pillowpants> and just used the xconfig command
[01:37] <pillowpants> going to restart x
[01:37] <hitmanWilly> pillowpants: k
[01:38] <hitmanWilly> UbuntuRules: ok, who did you piss off? :P
[01:39] <pillowpants> hitmanWilly : glxgears still isnt running
[01:40] <hitmanWilly> pillowpants: ok glxinfo | grep direct
[01:41] <pillowpants> hitmanWilly : "Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[01:41] <pillowpants> "
[01:41] <purpleposeidon> UbuntuRules: Do you know if you have a dynamic IP?
[01:41] <lubos> how do I avoid accidental reboot by commands " reboot" "shutdown" ?
[01:42] <pillowpants> lubos : dont type it?...
[01:42] <ardchoille> lubos: Don't type those commands?
[01:42] <lubos> :-)
[01:42] <hitmanWilly> pillowpants: ok can you pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[01:42] <pillowpants> hitmanWilly : sure
[01:42] <savetheWorld> lubos duct tape the users fingers to their palms
[01:42] <lubos> great help thanks guys...
[01:43] <jzilla> What's the recomended size for the /boot partiton?
[01:43] <savetheWorld> jzilla: 6,  depending on the units being used
[01:43] <savetheWorld> jzilla: I always use 100 Mb
[01:43] <jzilla> thanks.
[01:43] <purpleposeidon> lubos: append "alias reboot='echo If you really wanted to turn me off, you wanted a reboot, you would type the full path name'" to ~/.bashrc
[01:44] <savetheWorld> purpleposeidon: nice.
[01:44] <pillowpants> hitmanWilly : http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=d2d447652
[01:44] <pillowpants> jzilla: 75 megs would do it
[01:44] <wii> how do i install the right driver for my nvidea 6200?right now the hardware is using nvidea 6800
[01:45] <wii> it dont have 6200
[01:46] <hitmanWilly> pillowpants: ok, try "sudo modprobe glx"
[01:47] <Mr_Sonoma> anyone use k9copy?
[01:47] <lubos> purpleposeidon: thanks ...
[01:47] <pillowpants> hitmanWilly : module glx not found
[01:47] <purpleposeidon> So easy to help! :D
[01:47] <hitmanWilly> pillowpants: see if there's a glx pkg, apt-cache search glx
[01:47] <wii> purpleposeidon: so help me then
[01:47] <BluesKaj> Mr_Sonoma, yes , it works well
[01:48] <pillowpants> hitmanWilly : nvidia-glx-legacy
[01:48] <pillowpants> but ive already got it installed
[01:48] <purpleposeidon> Ah, the problem is, is that isn't easy to help. That's impossible for me to help.
[01:48] <wii> lol
[01:48] <Mr_Sonoma> BluesKaj: i know, but i just reinstalled the system on the new hard disk, now im getting a dvd burning error (should be making a .iso on the hard disk) is there a package or setting i may have missed in the install...used apt-get install k9copy
[01:49] <hitmanWilly> hmmm
[01:49] <hitmanWilly> what vid card is this?
[01:49] <wii> purpleposeidon: can u help me with beryl then?
[01:49] <Mr_Sonoma> i dont remember having this issue before on the last hard disk
[01:49] <wii> how do i install the right driver for my nvidea 6200?right now the hardware is using nvidea 6800
[01:50] <ardchoille> wii: You have an nvidia geforce 6200 video card?
[01:50] <BluesKaj> hmm, the only thing i can think of is your sources.list , Mr_Sonoma...is it the right version ?
[01:51] <pillowpants> hitmanWilly : tnt2 model 64
[01:51] <Mr_Sonoma> standard sourcelist medibuntu repo is the only add on (fiesty fawn)
[01:51] <wii> ardchoille: yes
[01:51] <hitmanWilly> pillowpants: wow, ok, i don't know if 3d accel is even supported on that
[01:51] <ardchoille> wii: Did you already install nvidia drivers?
[01:51] <Mr_Sonoma> just as installed off the live cd (only i selected ubuntu main server instead of the us server under the manage repos tab)
[01:51] <pillowpants> hitmanWilly : it is
[01:52] <purpleposeidon> wii: That's medium. I don't do medium. Only easy.
[01:52] <wii> ardchoille: nope nada in hardware i saw as defaul nv for nvidea
[01:52] <hitmanWilly> pillowpants: i mean the newer opengl might not work with it
[01:52] <BluesKaj> Mr_Sonoma, make sure you have "mkisofs" installed
[01:52] <pillowpants> hitmanWilly : i can run tremulous, quake 3, and a few other things on this sturdy card
[01:52] <Mr_Sonoma> ah
[01:52] <ardchoille> wii: ok, I have that exact card and can tell you how I got the drivers running
[01:52] <pillowpants> hitmanWilly : works in windows at least
[01:52] <Mr_Sonoma> let me see dont think i have that package
[01:52] <wii> purpleposeidon: lol how can i modify my source list?
[01:53] <wii> ardchoille: ok shoot
[01:53] <pillowpants> hitmanWilly : ive had it working before, but i reformatted my drive, and i cant remember how i did it
[01:53] <ardchoille> wii: Open a terminal and type this to see if the modules are installed:   apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[01:54] <purpleposeidon> wii: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list # :P
[01:54] <Mr_Sonoma> ok will try it again, thats a good thought i hadnt thought of (knew i had to be missing something simple) thanks BluesKaj
[01:55] <BluesKaj> Mr_Sonoma ..well let's wait til it works :)
[01:56] <wii> purpleposeidon: u crazy
[01:56] <Mr_Sonoma> alright, if you'll be around afterwhile i'll letya know how it goes =) (i had killed the process so im just starting over again)
[01:56] <wii> ardchoille: they told me unabble to locate package
[01:57] <ardchoille> wii: What package?
[01:57] <hitmanWilly> pillowpants: hmm, well, you've got me dude
[01:57] <wii> ardchoille: linux-restricted-modules-wii-r
[01:58] <ardchoille> wii: No, type in the command exactly as I posted it to you
[01:58] <ardchoille> wii: apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[01:58] <hitmanWilly> wii, uname isn't your name, its a cmd :)
[01:59] <wii> oh sorry lol :p
[01:59] <wii> ardchoille: do i copy everything and paste it in the cosole?
[02:00] <ardchoille> wii: yes
[02:00] <wii> purpleposeidon: an easyer way run: kdesu /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:00] <BluesKaj> is there a pkg called growisofs or something sismilar?
[02:01] <hitmanWilly> and here i was getting ready to tell him the difference betwen ` and '...lol
[02:01] <purpleposeidon> wii: Then you have to wait for a window to pop up. :P
[02:01] <pillowpants> hitmanWilly : well thanks for the help
[02:01] <crimsun> BluesKaj: in the dvd+rw-tools package
[02:01] <BluesKaj> thx crimsun
[02:02] <wii> purpleposeidon:  true but sometimes it comes one time
[02:02] <hitmanWilly> pillowpants: sorry man, never had to try to get opengl running on a card that old
[02:02] <wii> ardchoille:  Installed: 2.6.20.5-16.29
[02:02] <wii> ...
[02:02] <purpleposeidon> wii: sometimes the disk might be busy, and it will take nano a couple extra milliseconds to load. And sometimes you're on a VT, or something
[02:03] <BluesKaj> Mr_Sonoma, make sure you have dvd+rw-tools installed too
[02:03] <ardchoille> wii: Ok, run this command: "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx". When that's done, run this command:  "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable". Reconfigure xorg with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and restart x and you should be done.
[02:06] <wii> ardchoille: restart x server? o_O i hope it restarts the last time i was install fglrx for my ati when i reach to the end and restart x server all i had was a black screen when i boot up linux :( i had to reinstall everything :(
[02:06] <wii> >_<
[02:07] <ardchoille> wii: I gave you the exact directions that I have used on more than 70 machines for nvidia geforce 6200 cards, it should be fine.
[02:07] <ardchoille> wii: and, btw, ati sucks
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> ardchoille: its true
[02:08] <UbuntuRules> I think I pissed off the ops in #ubuntu
[02:08] <ardchoille> UbuntuRules: That would explain the ban
[02:09] <UbuntuRules> All I did was post http://pastebin.ca/727389
[02:09] <UbuntuRules> (Do NOT cick)
[02:09] <intelikey> what determines whether an eth card is eth0 eth1 eth2 ...   ?
[02:09] <ardchoille> UbuntuRules: Have you learned from that istake?
[02:09] <wii> ardchoille: well for me ati is more compatible whit a lot of stuff then nv.but ati's cards burns up to fast :( i'm on my 3rd ati but it had a problem so the store didnt had anymore in stock they force me to take an nvidea.
[02:09] <contrast83> !aptfix
[02:09] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: i'm not sure, as my first ethx is eth2
[02:09] <UbuntuRules> Yes I have learned.
[02:10] <ardchoille> wii: you're better off with nvidia anyway, IMHO.
[02:10] <wii> i still didnt regalate it good for xp the coulour is killing me
[02:10] <intelikey> nosrednaekim hmmm mine too
[02:10] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: irq address, probably
[02:10] <UbuntuRules> Don't post links to ASCII Goatse disguised as a kernel error.
[02:10] <UbuntuRules> I have learned that.
[02:10] <ardchoille> hehe
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: however, I have two other network devices, wifi0 and ath0
[02:11] <intelikey> nosrednaekim it's not irQ    10:          0          XT-PIC  eth1
[02:11] <intelikey>  11:       1886          XT-PIC  Trident Audio, eth2, eth0
[02:12] <UbuntuRules> I want #ubuntu
[02:12] <UbuntuRules> Tell them to let me join.
[02:12] <ardchoille> UbuntuRules: Whining abou tit in here will not get you unbabbed
[02:12] <UbuntuRules> :(
[02:12] <BluesKaj> UbuntuRules, type /join #ubuntu
[02:12] <intelikey> /join #ubuntu-ops
[02:13] <ardchoille> and then appologise
[02:13] <dwidmann> Humm, anyone know where I went wrong with my grub installation if it's not reading the configfile (I have to manually "configfile /grub/menu.lst") at boot?
[02:13] <intelikey> or just admit wrong and say you are sorry.   no need to appologise they already know what happened
[02:13] <wii> ardchoille: when i did sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg a window pop up
[02:14] <hitmanWilly> dwidmann: try copying menu.lst to grub.conf, see what happens
[02:14] <hitmanWilly> dwidmann: unless grub.conf already exists
[02:14] <BluesKaj> dwidmann, make sure the line is uncommented  :)
[02:14] <ardchoille> wii: That is supposed to happen. Now you need to answer some questions, choose the nvidia driver and continue
[02:14] <intelikey> dwidmann default would be  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:15] <wii> ardchoille: now it got video geniric card.leave it like that?
[02:15] <dwidmann> intelikey: riiiiiiiight, like I would ever have anything "default" :P
[02:15] <ardchoille> wii: no, type in:  nvidia GeForce 6200
[02:15] <wii> ardchoille: sorry Generic Video Card_
[02:15] <dwidmann> hitmanWilly: testing your idea now.
[02:16] <intelikey> dwidmann well.   good on then mate.
[02:16] <dwidmann> hitmanWilly: no go
[02:16] <BluesKaj> wii, you have to choose the nvidia card when editing the xorg.conf file
[02:16] <hitmanWilly> meh, was a shot in the dark anyways
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj:  did kikoman get his ATI card working?
[02:17] <BluesKaj> dunno, haven't seen him
[02:17] <BluesKaj> I was away for 35mins or so
[02:17] <intelikey> anyone know what determines whether an eth card is eth0 eth1 eth2 ...   ?
[02:17] <hitmanWilly> dwidmann: are all the devices straight?
[02:18] <intelikey> is it the order in which the drivers are loaded ?
[02:18] <wii> ardchoille: there this 3rd page telling me about isa:1 pci:0:16:0 ... theres nothing to do on that page?
[02:18] <crimsun> intelikey: that's one part, yes, but there's also the ifrename infrastructure.
[02:19] <ardchoille> wii: You should be able to leave everything else alone until you come to the vertical and horizontal entries
[02:19] <intelikey> ifrename   hmmm    ?
[02:19] <wii> hien??
[02:19] <dwidmann> hitmanWilly: probably not.
[02:19] <hitmanWilly> dwidmann: ie are you having to specify what drive it boots off of?
[02:19] <dwidmann> nah, I don't have to do the "root (hd0,4) if that's what you mean
[02:19] <intelikey> crimsun where can i find info on that ?
[02:20] <wii> ardchoille: Use kernel framebuffer device interface?  yes or no?
[02:20] <dwidmann> wait, I think I fixed it, ... I probably haven't tried to fix things since I was playing around with the partitions in knoppix anyway, oh, and thanks for your time/ideas
[02:20] <ardchoille> wii: That's up to you. I do't use it here
[02:20] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: hmm hope that fixed it.
[02:20] <wii> ardchoille: i dont know what they talking about i'm a newbi
[02:21] <intelikey> crimsun oh an app called ifrename ?
[02:21] <ardchoille> wii: Where are you now?
[02:21] <dwidmann> hitmanWilly: oh, and what I meant by probably not is that linux isn't picking up my devices "in order" (where in order is the order that they're in on the motherboard, and in  bios)
[02:21] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: in other news,I just noticed that it seems Xpress 200 now has Direct rednering support in gutsy. without the binary ati drivers
[02:21] <wii> ardchoille: Use kernel framebuffer device interface? yes or no there where i am
[02:21] <ardchoille> wii: Choose "no"
[02:22] <Luminata> hey, I jsut got a big file with videos that need to be unzipped first, and it says it has to be opened with winrar, I tried using Wine, What else should i try?
[02:22] <hitmanWilly> Luminata: unrar
[02:22] <dwidmann> hitmanWilly: (it's something like 1 = /dev/sdc 2 = /dev/sda 3 = /dev/sdb 4 = /dev/sdd or something like that, haven't bothered to check the order in a bit
[02:22] <Luminata> Alright, can I just google that?
[02:22] <crimsun> intelikey: ifrename is the older (obsoleted) format.  It has been rolled into udev's functionality.  See also iftab(5).
[02:22] <ardchoille> !unrar | Luminata
[02:22] <ubotu> Luminata: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[02:22] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim,really eh ? where did you see that?
[02:22] <ubuntu_> Hi all!! I'm trying to run the installer from the CD, and it just hangs after the keyboard layout.  Using 7.10 beta.  Any ideas?
[02:22] <Luminata> !unrar
[02:22] <Luminata> oops
[02:22] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: glxinfo
[02:22] <nosrednaekim> 0.o
[02:23] <ardchoille> ubuntu_: please read the channel topic
[02:23] <intelikey> crimsun ok.   so if i'm not using udev and don't have ifrename   then can i assume that the module loadup order is the only factor involved here ?
[02:24] <wii> ardchoille: all of this u got to do just to install drivers?i'm here playing whit the keyboard layout
[02:24] <crimsun> intelikey: if there are no hooks into /etc/iftab, then most likely you may assume that safely.
[02:24] <ardchoille> wii: You have already installed the drivers. What you're doing now is configuring xorg for best results. Trust me, it's worth it.
[02:24] <intelikey> crimsun ty.
[02:25] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, this new experimental driver gives me frame rates 50% higher than the older fglrx on feisty
[02:25] <wii> ardchoille: they asking me for my mouse port.if i choose the wrong one will i be able to but it back?
[02:26] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, I wonder if the default gutsy ati driver does the same ?
[02:26] <ardchoille> wii: You can just leave the mouse stuff as is
[02:26] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: thats what i'm saying..
[02:26] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: oh.. no.. its not.
[02:27] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: it says "warning xpress200 detected" though ;)
[02:27] <wii> ardchoille: now they talking about module.leave it as it is?
[02:27] <salsero> hi all. who can help me here : http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3087176.0
[02:27] <wii>  X.Org server modules that should be loaded by default:
[02:28] <ardchoille> wii: leave it as is
[02:28] <wii> !ask | salsero
[02:28] <intelikey> ardchoille heh i load one fonts module only
[02:28] <ubotu> salsero: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:29] <ardchoille> intelikey: I've never messed with that stuff, so I don't know.
[02:29] <salsero> i have a acer aspire 9303 notebook. i want to use the intergrated webcam
[02:29] <BluesKaj> hmmm nosrednaekim , i have no such warning
[02:29] <intelikey> doesn't matter.   was just saying
[02:29] <killermach> my laptop only does 1024x768 resolution, how do I set kubuntu to do a larger resolution so I have  a virtual resolution of 1280x1024?
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: but are you using fglrx?
[02:29] <salsero> and i try do to this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3114742&postcount=6
[02:29] <christian__> hi
[02:30] <killermach> the laptop will obviously only show 1024x768 section of any portion of the virtual desktop and will scroll when you mouse to the edges
[02:30] <ardchoille> Tm_T: May I pm you lease?
[02:30] <salsero> but i get a error message: Unable to set format: 5.
[02:30] <salsero>  Init v4L2 failed !! exit fatal
[02:30] <Tm_T> ardchoille: yes?
[02:31] <BluesKaj> yup nosrednaekim, this one : http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeonhdd.html
[02:31] <_Christian> hi
[02:31] <_Christian> how can install
[02:31] <_Christian> songbirc
[02:31] <_Christian> songbird*
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> !songbird
[02:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about songbird - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: I'm talking the opensource one..
[02:31] <BluesKaj> !info songbird
[02:31] <ubotu> Package songbird does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:32] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, URL ?
[02:32] <Jucato> no package for songbird
[02:32] <_Christian> okay
[02:32] <_Christian> thank u
[02:32] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: the default one included in Xorg
[02:32] <intelikey> _Christian you "can" get the source and build it.
[02:32] <intelikey> !b-e _Christian
[02:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about b-e _christian - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:32] <intelikey> !b-e |_Christian
[02:32] <ubotu> _Christian: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[02:32] <nosrednaekim> _Christian: that doesn't mean its impossible to install though.
[02:32] <Dracari> couldnt solve the wifi prob but my old PS2 "Go Net" USB eithernet adapter is working
[02:33] <_Christian> okay
[02:33] <_Christian> iam lost
[02:33] <_Christian> installing nvidia drivers:S
[02:33] <nosrednaekim> Dracari: thats good.
[02:33] <ardchoille> !nvidia | _Christian
[02:33] <ubotu> _Christian: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:33] <Dracari> i did a quick google for the linux bcm 4303 driver
[02:34] <salsero> u can find songbird as deb here http://www.getdeb.net/comment.php?rel_id=384&new=1
[02:34] <ghozala> hay is it necesary to have compiz to run emerald
[02:34] <Dracari> from the bcm43xx.berlios.de site, "This driver has been included to the Linux kernel since 2.6.1.7rc2
[02:35] <Dracari> does kubuntu Fiesty fawn use that or a newer kernel?
[02:35] <intelikey> !hardware | Dracari maybe a quick check on this list
[02:35] <ubotu> Dracari maybe a quick check on this list: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[02:35] <Dracari> intel the card isnt on teh list as broken or working
[02:35] <intelikey> Dracari fiesty uses 2.6.20 i think ???
[02:36] <Dracari> the card itself is teh linksys wmp 11 v2.7 but it identifies its chipsetto linux as the bcm4303
[02:37] <Dracari> (tryingto get all bugs out and set be4 the 18th)
[02:38] <Dracari> taking this pc with me to a convention thats a weeee bit outta my way :)
[02:38] <intelikey> be4 ?    ur so l337
[02:38] <Dracari> lol curse of net shorthand
[02:38] <Dracari> :P
[02:39] <ghozala> hay can any body tell a room for kubuntu loook
[02:39] <Darkrift411> is there a way to make it so that any usb hd i plug in gets auto mounted (without having to go manually mount it the first time) ?
[02:40] <underdog5004> Is there any way to get scp to ignore/exclude files when copying? DISCLAIMER: I've already looked at man page...no joy :(
[02:41] <intelikey> underdog5004 regex
[02:41] <underdog5004> :(
[02:41] <underdog5004> lol, but scp doesn't have any options for exclusion...
[02:41] <ghozala> HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT IS THE CHANNEL FOR KUBUNTU LOOOK
[02:42] <Jucato> !caps | ghozala
[02:42] <ubotu> ghozala: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[02:42] <Jucato> ghozala: there is no channel for kubuntu look. what are you looking for exactly
[02:42] <ghozala> ok i ve got emerald and i cannot activate it to work
[02:43] <Jucato> !beryl | ghozala
[02:43] <ubotu> ghozala: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:43] <_Christian> what channel
[02:43] <_Christian> is in spanish?
[02:43] <underdog5004> !es
[02:43] <ghozala> i ve these problem from a couple fo days
[02:43] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:43] <_Christian> thanks
[02:43] <Jucato> ghozala: try going to #ubuntu-effects
[02:43] <Do0oDz> hello can someone help me plz ? .. I'm installing superkaramba .. and I just compiled the file .. and after make install I got this .. can someone make sure if the out put is ok ? http://pastebin.ca/727443
[02:44] <ghozala> ok thanks and sorrry for SHOUTING
[02:44] <intelikey> underdog5004 no i mean regex the list.   basicly let the shell generate the desired list before scp starts.
[02:44] <underdog5004> Do0oDz, why are you making from source? superkaramba is in the repos...
[02:44] <ardchoille> Do0oDz: Why did you compile superkaramba? You should already have it
[02:44] <Do0oDz> underdog5004 : lol I dont know ... so I might find it in the package manager ?
[02:44] <underdog5004> yep
[02:44] <ardchoille> Do0oDz: You probably already have it installed
[02:45] <ardchoille> Do0oDz: Look at the bottom of the Utilities menu
[02:45] <Do0oDz> ardchoille ... and ?
[02:46] <ardchoille> Do0oDz: Open a term and type this to see if it's already installed: apt-cache policy superkaramba
[02:46] <Do0oDz> ardchoille: I just got in the package manager and installing the package :D..
[02:46] <ardchoille> Do0oDz: If it isn't installed, you can install it with: sudo apt-get install superkaramba
[02:47] <ardchoille> Do0oDz: ok
[02:47] <majnoon> hi hi TRYING the gutsy upgrade
[02:47] <ardchoille> It must have been installed on my system when I installed something else
[02:47] <Do0oDz> ardchoille: ok after I install it ... where can I find it ? ..
[02:48] <intelikey> underdog5004 idea.   if all you want is audio files:  ssh user@host    and    find /basedir/ -type f | while read Q ;do file $Q | grep -qie audio && scp $Q user@host:/dir/ ;done
[02:48] <ardchoille> Do0oDz: The make install error you got looks like you tried make install without using sudo
[02:48] <underdog5004> intelikey, gotcha
[02:48] <ardchoille> Do0oDz: IT should appear in the menu
[02:48] <intelikey> underdog5004   adjust the idea as needed   ^
[02:48] <underdog5004> intelikey, I just want to not copy a dir named (creatively) "Protected"
[02:48] <Do0oDz> ardchoille: found it under utilities :D .. thaank u guys :D
[02:49] <Mr_Sonoma> BluesKaj: it worked!!! i knew it had to be something simple i was overlooking thanks.
[02:49] <intelikey> underdog5004 idea.   if all you want is audio files:  ssh user@host    and    find /basedir/ -type f | while read Q ;do echo "$Q" | grep -vqie "Protected" && scp $Q user@host:/dir/ ;done
[02:49] <intelikey> adjusted   now just use your user/host info.
[02:50] <underdog5004> intelikey, cool, thanks!
[02:50] <BluesKaj> cool , Mr_Sonoma , glad to hear it ;)
[02:50] <intelikey> or maybe not.
[02:51] <BluesKaj> Mr_Sonoma, did you install ' dvd+rw-tools ' too ?
[02:51] <intelikey> underdog5004 you may want to play with that syntax some to get the specific results you want.   i.e.  using  $Q again in the destination will preserve subdirs  and so forth
[02:52] <underdog5004> intelikey, I'm no great shakes at regexps, but it looks like that will _only_ copy Protected....
[02:52] <intelikey> underdog5004 grep -vqie <<<  the -v is invert.  i.e. fail if matching.
[02:52] <underdog5004> intelikey, nice
[02:53] <intelikey> you may want to make the dir tree first    idk.
[02:53] <underdog5004> erm, dir tree?
[02:53] <Mr_Sonoma> BluesKaj: i installed dvdrtools didnt know about or search for dvd+rw-tools
[02:53] <intelikey> on the target   yes
[02:54] <underdog5004> I'm not sure what that means
[02:54] <intelikey> if coping to localhost    mkdir -p `ssh user@host find /basedir/ -type d`
[02:54] <BluesKaj> Mr_Sonoma, do you have synaptic ..if so just type 'growisofs' in the searchbox
[02:55] <underdog5004> hmmm
[02:55] <intelikey> that will built the dirrectory tree for the target  with nothing in it.
[02:55] <Mr_Sonoma> BluesKaj: adept, but its the same thing. i do most my package management CLI though =)
[02:55] <underdog5004> I just don't understand why that's necessary...
[02:55] <intelikey> doesn't skip the "Protected" dir  but it will be empty.
[02:56] <BluesKaj> well, Mr_Sonoma  it's a way of finding buried pkgs that adept doesn't see
[02:56] <intelikey> underdog5004 i'm not sure it is.   you can test with something like    scp user@host:/etc/fstab ./blah/blah/blah  and see if it makes dirs or not...
[02:56] <Mr_Sonoma> BluesKaj: synaptic see's more packages than adept does?
[02:57] <intelikey> if not then you'll need to prebuild the dir tree
[02:57] <BluesKaj> sub pkgs yes
[02:58] <Mr_Sonoma> hmmmmm maybe i need to get around to installing that gnome desktop (i got called out of here after asking about that earlier)
[02:58] <underdog5004> intelikey, I've got the scp running from localhost to scp my /home/user to me@remote-server:/backup/dir, then have a crontab entry to tar/delete the files up...
[02:58] <BluesKaj> Mr_Sonoma, I like kde a lot but synaptic is superior to adept in many ways in my experience
[02:59] <intelikey> underdog5004 ok.  but the shell command i gave as an example will probably not preserver sub dirs   unless you adjust it some,  and probably wont make new sub dirs.    just something you should watch for.
[03:00] <underdog5004> ok, thanks for your help
[03:00] <Mr_Sonoma> BluesKaj: kde is what i started with, so thats what i stick with. but there are some other nice DE's out there besides i like to play.....anyways hadnt ever heard anyone say that synaptic was superior to adept my assumption was that it was just a diff GUI front end to the same backend (apt or what have you)
[03:00] <intelikey> underdog5004 let me give one more example.  using the info you provided.
[03:00] <Mr_Sonoma> but you know what they say about "assume"
[03:01] <BluesKaj> Synaptic has a better "search engine" than adept does :)
[03:02] <underdog5004> intelikey, ok
[03:05] <Mr_Sonoma> BluesKaj: either +rw-tools was installed with dvdrtools or with k3b but anyways it was already there. but thanks anyways man =)
[03:06] <intelikey> find ~/ ! -iname "*Protected*" | while read Q ;do [ -d "$Q" ]  && ssh me@remote-server mkdir -p $Q || scp "$Q" me@remote-server:$Q ;done
[03:07] <intelikey> underdog5004 only need to adjust name and address for that to work.      unless i missed something.
[03:07] <intelikey> might quote the $Q on the one i didn't quote.
[03:07] <underdog5004> very cool, let me try this out (minus the scp elements, don't want to copy 80 gigs for nothing...)
[03:08] <intelikey> right.
[03:08] <intelikey> you can prepend echo and just display what would have happened
[03:09] <underdog5004> prepend or append?
[03:09] <intelikey> find ~/ ! -iname "*Protected*" | while read Q ;do [ -d "$Q" ]  && ssh me@remote-server mkdir -p "$Q" || echo "scp \"$Q\" me@remote-server:\"$Q\"" ;done
[03:09] <underdog5004> nvm, got it
[03:09] <underdog5004> looking very very good
[03:10] <underdog5004> alright, looks good, thank you so so much. I really  need to learn about regexps, but I just don't have the time...
[03:11] <Gazza> "and you are young and time is long ....." - pink floyd :)
[03:11] <intelikey> this one is good for just looking at what would have happened without the euch ".*" >>>>>  find ~/ ! -iname "*Protected*" | while read Q ;do [ -d "$Q" ]  && echo "ssh me@remote-server mkdir -p \"$Q\"" || echo "scp \"$Q\" me@remote-server:\"$Q\"" ;done
[03:11] <intelikey> euch ???
[03:11] <intelikey> oooops
[03:11] <intelikey> echo
[03:12] <intelikey> Gazza don't chase the sun,
[03:12] <Gazza> hehe
[03:12] <Gazza> i become the sun :)
[03:13] <underdog5004> hmmm, when I prepend grep Protected, it displays stuff in the Protected folder...strange, and not good.
[03:13] <intelikey> oh yeah ?   that's very becomming of you
[03:13] <underdog5004> erm, thanks?
[03:14] <Gazza> :D
[03:14] <underdog5004> ooh, larping?!
[03:14] <Gazza> ark ark ark
[03:15] <intelikey> underdog5004 >>>>  find ~/ ! -iname "*Protected*" | while read Q ;do [ -d "$Q" ]  && echo "ssh me@remote-server mkdir -p \"$Q\"" || echo "scp \"$Q\" me@remote-server:\"$Q\"" ;done <<<  test without doing anything.   try it.
[03:15] <underdog5004> alrighty
[03:16] <intelikey> unless they have broken "find" in your version of *buntu  then it does work.
[03:17] <intelikey> i can't promice that they didn't break find  or regex or bash even.
[03:17] <intelikey> it has happened before.
[03:17] <intelikey> edgy comes to mind.
[03:17] <underdog5004> intelikey, when I put | grep Protected at the end, it shows the Protected directory
[03:17] <underdog5004> you mean with /bin/sh -> /bin/dash?
[03:17] <underdog5004> I'm using Feisty right now
[03:17] <intelikey> then something is broken...
[03:18] <underdog5004> argh
[03:18] <intelikey> no i mean truely broke regex in bash
[03:18] <underdog5004> so...
[03:18] <intelikey> i just tested the syntax for the find command three ways   it works here.
[03:18] <underdog5004> I think /bin/sh might point to /bin/dash, would that be a problem?
[03:18] <intelikey> no
[03:19] <underdog5004> hmm
[03:19] <underdog5004> incidentally, it points to dash
[03:19] <intelikey> might try   running sh first and then the command and see if it's a broken bash that's the problem.
[03:20] <intelikey> and is bloated.
[03:21] <underdog5004> nope, when I do it from /bin/sh I get the same stuff, here's the command I used: sudo find ~/ ! -iname "*Protected*" | while read Q ;do [ -d "$Q" ]  && echo "ssh me@remote-server mkdir -p \"$Q\"" || echo "scp \"$Q\" me@remote-server:\"$Q\"" ;done | grep Protected
[03:22] <intelikey> and it outputs things ???
[03:22] <underdog5004> yep
[03:22] <underdog5004> example: scp "/home/matthew/Desktop/Protected/Movies/stylewar_inthisworld.mov" me@remote-server:"/home/matthew/Desktop/Protected/Movies/stylewar_inthisworld.mov"
[03:22] <intelikey> then find must be borked  it's not supposed to display anything containing  "*Protected*"
[03:23] <underdog5004> erm, the grep Protected is outside the ;done , would that make a difference?
[03:24] <underdog5004> hmm, dpkg -l | grep find only returns kfind 3.5.6
[03:25] <underdog5004> erm, and findutils
[03:28] <naught101> anyone here running (k)gutsy? knetworkmanager isn't picking up my wireless card, even though kwifimanager and wlassistant both do.
[03:28] <underdog5004> what a pita
[03:29] <ardchoille> naught101: join #ubuntu+1
[03:29] <naught101> ardchoille: I know, but it's way too busy at the moment, and most people there aren't using kde anyway
[03:30] <naught101> (I already asked, and got no answer)
[03:30] <ardchoille> naught101: Hmm.. perhaps there should be a #kubuntu+1
[03:30] <naught101> definitely
[03:30] <intelikey> underdog5004
[03:30] <intelikey> ?
[03:30] <ardchoille> There's no #kubuntu-ops?
[03:31] <naught101> no, only with me in it
[03:31] <intelikey> i think ubuntu-ops covers them all
[03:31] <ardchoille> intelikey: ah
[03:31] <naught101> apparently kubuntu+1 exists though, just not in use
[03:31] <ardchoille> Well, perhaps #kubuntu+1 should be created for the kde folks who like to run the dev release.
[03:31] <naught101> I'm there
[03:31] <ardchoille> oh, ok
[03:32] <intelikey> where did that undercat go?
[03:32] <ardchoille> naught101: Any channel you join will "exist". Try joining #naught101
[03:33] <naught101> ardchoille: yeah, I know, but I joined #kubuntu-ops, and I got op (I assume that means I created it), I joined #kubuntu+1, and didn't
[03:33] <naught101> and I read the date wrong ;)
[03:33] <intelikey> ardchoille i joined a channel once that didn't exist....:)     you can't make some channels  they just redirrect you to something else.   #linuxhelp  for example.
[03:34] <naught101> I thought it said the 10/june/07, but it was the 6th of oct 07
[03:34] <ardchoille> naught101: When you join a channel, the channel creation date is printed in the channel.
[03:35] <naught101> ardchoille: I know. I just said that I read it wrong.
[03:35] <ardchoille> Anyway, I just feel that #kubuntu+1 should be for kde folks who run the dev release.
[03:36] <mike> anyone familliar with kmymoney2?
[03:36] <intelikey> someone running fiesty please test     find ~/ ! -iname "*kde*" | grep kde       and see if they get any output please.
[03:36] <ardchoille> Seems it was:  Registered: 6 weeks 5 days (22h 4m 59s) ago
[03:36] <Do0oDz> hello ..I removed the bottom panel .. and I cant seem to get it back :S .. ! how can I ?
[03:37] <intelikey> Do0oDz alt+f2 kicker
[03:37] <ardchoille> intelikey: Feisty here. That command only outputs ~/.kde* stuff
[03:38] <intelikey> ardchoille ok thank you.    that means something is broken in either find or regex or somewhere...
[03:38] <Do0oDz> intelikey : nothing happens
[03:38] <ardchoille> intelikey: That returns nothing for you?
[03:39] <intelikey> Do0oDz i guess i should have asked, what desktop ?
[03:39] <Do0oDz> kde
[03:39] <ardchoille> I can only think that he deleted ~/.kde
[03:40] <Do0oDz> intelikey : I just right clicked and removed the panel applications lol ...
[03:41] <Do0oDz> ardchoille : .. when I added some widgets to the desktop in supekaramba when I logged back in .. nothing is there ! ..
[03:43] <hdevalence> my konqueror AdblocK has stopped working
[03:43] <intelikey> Do0oDz do you have any "panel" at all ?
[03:43] <ardchoille> Do0oDz: I do't use superkaramba, so I'm afraid I can't help with it
[03:44] <hdevalence> oh nvm
[03:45] <Do0oDz> intelikey : yea but an empty one
[03:45] <Do0oDz> intelikey : no workspaces .. and no launchers nothing !
[03:45] <intelikey> Do0oDz just add them.
[03:45] <Do0oDz> intelikey : how ! .. :S
[03:45] <intelikey> right click add
[03:45] <ardchoille> Do0oDz: Can you right click the panel and choose Add applet to panel ?
[03:46] <Do0oDz> yea got it :)
[03:46] <Do0oDz> thanks :)
[03:46] <ardchoille> fill 'er up :)
[03:48] <intelikey> ardchoille ok  seems that it's the dot that is breaking find.  care to try it with a dir name that doesn't contain dot ?
[03:50] <Dinkow> Hey all-- When I launch off the live CD I get an empty desktop-- anyone know why that might be
[03:51] <intelikey> if underdog5004 would come back around i have a working "bypass" for that.
[03:51] <intelikey> Dinkow bad disk ?  low mem ?    fluke ?
[03:52] <Dinkow> disc is tested and fine, hdd is fine-- got 2gb in the machine.  So that leaves fluke :)
[03:52] <intelikey> well,   there you have it.
[03:54] <BluesKaj> sacktime, long day tomorrow ..reshingling the roof
[03:54] <Dinkow> I'm hoping for a more.. technical definition-- one perhaps that might lead to a solution :)
[03:54] <U238Willy> Dinkow, explain empty
[03:54] <U238Willy> oops
[03:54] <U238Willy> sorry.. it didn't scroll
[03:54] <U238Willy> :)
[03:55] <Dinkow> a pleasing blue desktop with a nicely rendered cursor (not the X cursor)
[03:55] <ardchoille> intelikey: I don't have any files in $HOME without a dot
[03:55] <ardchoille> Except for the Dekstop dir, but it's empty
[03:56] <U238Willy> hmm.. that's news to me..
[03:56] <intelikey> ardchoille heh.  ok.   never mind i think find has had that bug for a few releases now.   they started calling it a feature it's been there so long.
[03:56] <U238Willy> i know the typical desktop is sparce..
[03:56] <ardchoille> haha
[03:56] <ardchoille> U238Willy: Yes, but the desktop on the livecd at least should have the Install icon
[03:57] <Dinkow> There's sparse and then there's barren :)  I'll try downloading the alternate cd and try installing that way
[03:57] <U238Willy> right
[03:57] <Dinkow> any way I can launch the installer from command line off the liveCD ?
[03:57] <intelikey> Dinkow alt+f2  ubiquity
[03:57] <ardchoille> Dinkow: You culd if you had the proper command
[03:57] <ardchoille> ah, there it is
[03:58] <U238Willy> intelikey is a master.
[03:58] <ardchoille> Yeah, intelikey is cool :)
[03:58] <Dinkow> :)
[03:58] <Dinkow> Will give it a go
[03:58] <intelikey> he's my hero
[03:58] <ardchoille> lol
[03:58] <intelikey> oh wait that's me    sorry.
[03:58] <intelikey> :)
[03:58] <intelikey> that happens some times ya know....   </blushes>
[03:59] <Dinkow> I've got an error message now at least-- kdesu: cannot connect to X server
[03:59] <bazhang> greetings
[03:59] <U238Willy> i've been here a few times.. and intelikey is quite knowledgeable on kubuntu.
[03:59] <bazhang> hi intelikey
[04:00] <intelikey> bazhang they are trying to crack my box...  ;/
[04:02] <bazhang> intelikey: check out #kubuntu-offtopic! haha
[04:02] <intelikey> they think if they will just flatter me enough that i'll invite them in...     but i know their game.     i may have been born at night,  but it wasn't last night.
[04:02] <intelikey> :)
[04:02] <ardchoille> lol
[04:02] <ardchoille> intelikey: But, flattery get us everywhere, doesn't it?
[04:02] <bazhang> was one of your boxes used to power the storm botnet!
[04:02] <intelikey> lol
[04:03] <intelikey> we'll see.
[04:03] <bazhang> true story!
[04:03] <intelikey> bazhang no.
[04:03] <bazhang> not about your box, but the cracked linux box
[04:03] <bazhang> es
[04:07] <ardchoille> I would like to kill an app at a certain time regardless of whether I'm at the computer or not. Should I use "pidof" in an if/else statement or is there a more reliable way?
[04:07] <intelikey> killall appname
[04:07] <intelikey> ?
[04:07] <ardchoille> Yeah, didn't think of that.. d'oh
[04:08] <intelikey> ardchoille cron job ?
[04:08] <ardchoille> yes
[04:08] <intelikey> yeah i think killall would probably be the way to go unless you have it make a pid file at start and only want to kill one instance
[04:09] <ardchoille> yeah
[04:17] <bazhang> what will this channel be called after Gutsy is released? #kubuntu-1?
[04:17] <Agent_bob> same thing it's called now
[04:18] <ardchoille> bazhang: No, this channel is always for the rleased version
[04:18] <Agent_bob> and the development channel will still be *buntu+1
[04:18] <ardchoille> yes
[04:18] <bazhang> right; what I meant was what will the older release channel be called?
[04:18] <Agent_bob> yes that's what i said.
[04:18] <Agent_bob> there isn't one.
[04:18] <ardchoille> bazhang: The channels never change
[04:19] <Agent_bob> bazhang dapper is still supported right hear
[04:19] <Agent_bob> here
[04:19] <Agent_bob> here here  you hear.
[04:19] <ardchoille> The folks who run Gutsy now go to +1, after Oct. 18, they will be helped here and Hardy Herron users will go to +1
[04:20] <ardchoille> Agent_bob: lol
[04:20] <bazhang> ardchoille: thanks!
[04:20] <neversfelde|mobi> mhh, is it #kubuntu+1 ?
[04:20] <Agent_bob> is that really the name of the next one ?    seems like hoary hedgehog would have been enouth   h h
[04:20] <neversfelde|mobi> I am all alone :)
[04:21] <ardchoille> Agent_bob: Hoary was released before they came up with the idea of alphabetising it
[04:21] <ardchoille> neversfelde|mobi: #ubuntu+1
[04:21] <Agent_bob> neversfelde|mobi no.   #ubuntu+1   only
[04:21] <Agent_bob> ardchoille i know that.  but they didn't start at a a  so why repete h h
[04:21] <ardchoille> no idea
[04:22] <Agent_bob> ;/
[04:22] <ardchoille> AA is for quitters
[04:22] <Agent_bob> i'll ask intelikey he knows.
[04:22] <Agent_bob> he's my hero.
[04:22] <neversfelde|mobi> is there a special reason for not having kubuntu+1?
[04:22] <intelikey> :)
[04:22] <ardchoille> apparently he's his hero too
[04:22] <Agent_bob> ardchoille it's me... :)
[04:23] <ardchoille> neversfelde|mobi:  that channel was registered a while back but isn't used for some reason
[04:24] <neversfelde|mobi> some reasons?
[04:25] <bazhang> neversfelde|mobi: it's all good--we kubuntu users know who we are...
[04:25] <neversfelde|mobi> s more ist typical german :D
[04:27] <neversfelde|mobi> bazhang: I do not claim this channel, I think it's efficient to operate with one
[04:27] <naught101> anyone know if there's any difference between powermanager and kpowersave in terms of battery life?
[04:28] <bazhang> neversfelde|mobi: sorry; just kidding around.
[04:28] <Kein> ...hm
[04:28] <coteyr> ok so i am having a bit of a problem I can't seem tofigure out. I installed kubuntu as a text mode system on a old compac I have. The nic in the compac used to work under and older distro with the e100 module. During the setup(installer) it worked and I checked the logs it was using the e100 driver
[04:28] <neversfelde|mobi> naught101: I do not observed a difference, but there is no guarantee from me :)
[04:28] <Kein> Is it possible to change the icon a program uses(not shortcut icon)
[04:28] <Kein> ?
[04:28] <coteyr> but I can't get the nic to work now.
[04:29] <neversfelde|mobi> bazhang: :D
[04:29] <bazhang> haha
[04:31] <neversfelde|mobi> Kein: patch it. But why?
[04:31] <coteyr> the last line in the logs regaurding this driver are e100probeaddr 0x40000000, irq 18 mac addr: (and the mac)
[04:31] <coteyr> so it looks like it found it
[04:31] <coteyr> but why can't I ifconfig eth0 without an error
[04:31] <Kein> because a few icons are hideous
[04:31] <Kein> like the Pidgin one
[04:31] <coteyr> odd it moved it to eth2
[04:33] <coteyr> ok got it working useing eth2 but why is the refrence to eth2 not 0
[04:33] <coteyr> there are no other nics installed
[04:33] <neversfelde|mobi> Kein: and manual changing isn't a solution?
[04:33] <Kein> well
[04:33] <Kein> I want to know HOW to do that. >_>
[04:33] <naught102> neversfelde|mobi: thanks
[04:34] <neversfelde|mobi> Kein: would be a gig effort to do that. You should learn something about packaging a *ubunu deb
[04:35] <Linus___________> Can somebody point me at wherever the control is to stop the screen from dimming?
[04:35] <neversfelde|mobi> naught102: let me know if you experience an advantage
[04:36] <coteyr> Linus; the mowere manager i think
[04:36] <naught102> likewise, I doubt that I will notice any difference... I think I'll just stick with kpowersave, much more configureable
[04:37] <Linus___________> coteyr: Where is that?  I've been all over system settings and have not found it
[04:38] <never|mobi> although it should be translated
[04:38] <coteyr> Linus; the little battery/plug thing in the system tray area
[04:38] <coteyr> Linus; though I could be wrong
[04:39] <Linus___________> I'm a Linux heathen... only on it about a week... so far don't even know what a 'system tray' is either.
[04:39] <Linus___________> maybe better to say a 'new convert'
[04:39] <neversfelde|mobi> hehe
[04:40] <coteyr> Linus; the bottom right hand cornor of the screen the icons next to the clock if you havn't changed it
[04:40] <Linus___________> (apologies for my ignorance though)
[04:40] <coteyr> linus; you might also trying running kcontrol there are more options there then there are in the system settings window
[04:40] <Linus___________> Hmmm.... next to the clock is the garbage can
[04:41] <coteyr> linus; other side
[04:41] <neversfelde|mobi> coteyr: are there more options?
[04:41] <neversfelde|mobi> never experience that
[04:41] <coteyr> neversfelde|mobi; let me look but it seems like it
[04:41] <coteyr> neversfelde|mobi; maybe there jsut arranged in a way that i am more used to.
[04:42] <neversfelde|mobi> i love kde-systemsettings and I had a discussion with a friend of mine today
[04:42] <neversfelde|mobi> he is a kcontrol fanatic
[04:42] <coteyr> neversfelde|mobi; kcontrol is my favorite but i have a feeling this could spark a vi v.s. emacs debate
[04:43] <neversfelde|mobi> :D it is pratice
[04:43] <neversfelde|mobi> and nano is great...
[04:43] <Linus___________> HMMM.. wondering if kcontrol has not installed.  Not in the menu
[04:43] <coteyr> i do like nano
[04:44] <subtrnl> anyone have a dual headed extended desktop running with the intel driver?
[04:44] <coteyr> bt the word wrapping is annoying when working in config files
[04:44] <neversfelde|mobi> Linu
[04:44] <neversfelde|mobi> sorry
[04:44] <coteyr> linus: press alt+f2 then type kcontrol
[04:44] <neversfelde|mobi> Linus___________: do an alt + f2 and insert kcontrol
[04:45] <neversfelde|mobi> subtrnl: me not
[04:45] <Linus___________> well, ok, it found it, but where the h it was supposed to be in the menus I dunno!  Thank you!
[04:45] <subtrnl> never: you use the intel driver as well?
[04:46] <coteyr> it's not in the menus
[04:46] <neversfelde|mobi> late in Germany, time to go. n8
[04:46] <coteyr> wait till you discover grep
[04:46] <subtrnl> l8r neversfelde|mobi
[04:48] <tomi> how can i boot the system in 1024x768 resolution?I have nvidia
[04:48] <EightiesK> anyone know how i can copy protect my own music cds?
[04:49] <coteyr> tomi; edit the X config file
[04:49] <bazhang> EightiesK: DRM?
[04:49] <fulat2k> hi folks, is there a user friendly application i can use to rip dvds in linux?
[04:49] <bazhang> fulat2k: vlc
[04:49] <coteyr>  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:49] <EightiesK> bazhang: plz explain. i've alwayed used realplayer to burn them
[04:49] <subtrnl> tomi: or go to start -> system settings -> Monitor & Display and adjust what predifined settings you have in your xorg.conf already
[04:49] <fulat2k> bazhang: eh?  didn't know it can rip dvds....
[04:50] <tomi> well the X config file contains resolutions 1280x1024 1024x768
[04:50] <tomi> but the system boots in 800x600
[04:50] <fulat2k> bazhang: uhh... does it include encoding to xvid/mp3 as well?
[04:50] <coteyr> put 1024x768 first
[04:50] <coteyr> oh
[04:50] <coteyr> LCD?
[04:50] <tomi> no
[04:50] <tomi> CRT
[04:50] <bazhang> fulat2k: if you get the plugins, I believe..
[04:51] <coteyr> tomi check the logs
[04:51] <tomi> when i go to Monitor & Display i have no choice
[04:51] <coteyr> is there an error
[04:51] <tomi> only 800x600
[04:51] <tomi> @ 50 Hz
[04:51] <bazhang> fulat2k: http://lifehacker.com/software/dvds/rip-dvds-with-vlc-230349.php
[04:52] <tomi> coteyr where are the logs? the dir ?
[04:53] <coteyr> tomi /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:53] <coteyr> afk
[04:55] <tomi> coteyr part of the log -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39731/
[04:56] <tomi> it says no valid modes for all resolutions? why
[04:58] <subtrnl> tomi have you tried using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to generate a xorg.conf?
[04:59] <tomi> no, i will try that now
[05:02] <tomi> subtrnl after i try this should i restart the whole system or just the X server with Ctrl Alt Backspase?
[05:02] <subtrnl> logout then ctrl alt backspace
[05:09] <smacker> hej   jag ska lgga in fonts till wine men hittar inte wine mapen utan den finns inte jag vet at den r dold men vart hittar ja den ?   tacksam fr alla frsk
[05:12] <hydrogen> hmm
[05:12] <hydrogen> i'm sure theres a channel for you to go to
[05:12] <hydrogen> where people know what you said
[05:12] <hydrogen> but I don't know what language that is
[05:12] <smacker> haha :P where
[05:12] <hydrogen> so I don't know where to send yoU!
[05:13] <smacker> swedish
[05:13] <smacker> sweden :P
[05:13] <hydrogen> !se
[05:13] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[05:13] <smacker> thx party party :D
[05:14] <Wolf23> anyone help with gnokii?
[05:15] <pongscript> guys can any one tell me how to change permisson on mounted hdd
[05:16] <pongscript> i mounted an ntfs partition.. but i cant access that drive..
[05:16] <pongscript> its says "permission denied"
[05:16] <smacker> hi
[05:17] <pongscript> when i look at the property window.. it was configured group: root
[05:17] <pongscript> and user:root
[05:17] <pongscript> but when i use sudo su to change its permission
[05:17] <pongscript> ung chmod
[05:17] <pongscript> usng chmod
[05:17] <pongscript> this is the command
[05:18] <pongscript> chmod +r+w /media/sdc2
[05:18] <pongscript> can anyone help?
[05:19] <pongscript> i' ill just be waiting for any answers... thanks guys..
[05:19] <subtrnl> pongscript: chmod 777 will give permission to everyone
[05:21] <pongscript> ok.. i'll try that... thanks anyway
[05:21] <subtrnl> anytime
[05:21] <hydrogen> thats usually not what you want
[05:21] <hydrogen> in fact.. its not what you want
[05:21] <hydrogen> pongscript: you need to run the mount command as your user
[05:21] <hydrogen> after configuring an entry in fstab
[05:22] <pongscript> okie..
[05:22] <hydrogen> are you using ntfs3g or just readonly support?
[05:22] <pongscript> when i type chmod 777 /media/sbc1
[05:23] <pongscript> it says "changing permisson of readonly media"
[05:23] <pongscript> i just reinstalled the os...
[05:23] <pongscript> i dont have that kind of problem on my previous installation...
[05:24] <pongscript> i just reinstalled because i somehow messed up my configuration...
[05:24] <subtrnl> try start->system settings->Advanced tab-> Disk & Filesytem
[05:25] <subtrnl> you can change the partitions to your hearts desire in the gui
[05:26] <pongscript> it was tagged as writable but when its always mounted as readonly...
[05:26] <naught101> anyone here using kpowersave?
[05:28] <naught101> and notice that it only has 3 our of 5 governors?
[05:28] <hydrogen> pongscript: you need to use ntfs3g to mount a ntfs partiton read-write
[05:28] <hydrogen> !ntfs-3g
[05:28] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:28] <naught101> ondemand and conservative are missing
[05:28] <pongscript> okie.. thanks.. brb..
[05:29] <timbo__> I have intel high def audio, and when im on here i get this static scratchy sound.  how do i fix it?
[05:29] <timbo__> but vista dont do it
[05:31] <pansapien7> Anyone done a dist-upgrade from Feisty to Gutsy here ? .... the icons for play/stop/skip etc buttons in Amarok have all disappeared ... all just show a 'piece of paper' icon now.
[05:31] <pansapien7> is also effecting kompose for me ...
[05:34] <timbo__> hello?
[05:35] <subtrnl> is it a constant scratchy sound timbo?
[05:36] <sjck> hey, how can i turn of the sound in console when i press tab?
[05:36] <sjck> konsole*
[05:36] <timbo__> just the left speaker while playing any mp3 on my music players
[05:37] <subtrnl> sjck: system settings -> notifications
[05:37] <thoreauputic> sjck: or  xset b off
[05:37] <subtrnl> xset
[05:37] <pansapien7> sjck: Settings > Bell > Visible Bell ?
[05:37] <sjck> will that be saved?
[05:37] <timbo__> but in vista it dont do it
[05:38] <thoreauputic> in a real console ( tty) use setterm -blength 0
[05:38] <sjck> works, thanks :)
[05:39] <pansapien7> sjck: changes made to konsole via the Settings menu should save, if you click "Save as Default"
[05:39] <pansapien7> I just noticed the icons in my Konsole Settings menu are also missing.
[05:40] <pansapien7> Anyone know which package contains all these KDE specific icons ?
[05:41] <pansapien7> somethings not been upgraded right in my Feisty->Gutsy dist-upgrade ... I'm trying to chase it down to file a bug report
[05:41] <ardchoille> pansapien7:  kdeartwork-theme-icon
[05:41] <ardchoille> kdeartwork-theme-icon - icon themes released with KDE
[05:41] <ardchoille> pansapien7: There's also the  kdeartwork  package which contains a lot of tstuff
[05:42] <pansapien7> hmm, those are both installed
[05:42] <ardchoille> pansapien7: Open adept and search for "kde-icon" , there are lots of packages
[05:42] <ardchoille> sorry, it's "kde-icons"
[05:43] <pansapien7> strangely, apt-get install kdeartwork-theme-icon also says "kdeartwork-theme-icon set to manual installed.". Any idea what that means ?
[05:44] <sjck> ntfs3g coudnt handle one of my partitions reason "hda7 is busy" what can I do? :)
[05:45] <timbo__> ok it went away when i changed my my master channel to pcm
[05:46] <timbo__> but both front and pc sounded like garbage
[05:52] <pansapien7> Ahh.. for the record, I just found out what it means when apt says something was "manually installed".
[05:53] <pansapien7> It means it was manually installed :) Eg, not installed automatically as a dependancy, but directly by the use. Also means apt-get autoremove won't remove it if it was manually installed.
[05:54] <killermach> can someone educate me on the ~/.kde/share/config/systemsettingsrc file?
[05:55] <killermach>  have a laptop with a second monitor, Syncmaster 225BW LCD, which is capable of doing 1680x1050
[05:55] <killermach> and when I boot kubuntu, I get a kdm screen that is 1680x1050 on the external monitor
[05:55] <killermach> once I login, I the monitor goes blank, says no signal, then the power light starts blinking, sleep mode
[05:55] <killermach> something in kde session is doing this .. and I'm having problems figuring out how to fix it
[05:57] <timbo__> is there an easy way to get beryl to open on startup
[05:57] <timbo__> ?
[05:59] <Capt_Carrot> well, moving to something that's currently in development would be good...  but i'm not going to push that move :)
[05:59] <timbo__> I take that as a no?
[05:59] <Capt_Carrot> there should be some sort of section for autostarted applications
[05:59] <pansapien7> Ah ha ! Icons fixed. If I run the KDE Control Centre and change my icon theme, the missing icons now appear. If I choose the Ubuntu Human theme icons, or the Crux icons, they disappear.
[05:59] <Capt_Carrot> alternately, check ~/.kde/autostart
[05:59] <Capt_Carrot> i think, don't remember for sure
[05:59] <pansapien7> Looks like there is something wrong/missing with these themes.
[06:04] <zarilion> What's the term to use to auto search for "help" ?
[06:07] <zarilion> Ok... Then i'll try myself..
[06:07] <charlie5> hi all ... do usb harddrives need special attention in /etc/fstab ? ... when i boot and log in, the drives partitions are mounted ok and i can access them, but after about 10 mins, they are all unmounted for some reason, even if they are currently in use :/
[06:07] <zarilion> !search xserver resett
[06:07] <ubotu> Found: xconfig
[06:07] <zarilion> !search xserver reset
[06:08] <zarilion> !help xserver reconfigure
[06:08] <sjck> whats a big hdd for an notebook? :)
[06:08] <charlie5> ... if it's any help, the problem only started after the recent kernel update
[06:08] <usser> 80gb is pretty big
[06:09] <sjck> uh
[06:09] <sjck> but 200-500gb possible?
[06:09] <zarilion> 160 is the biggest atm i think.
[06:09] <sjck> not that much to be honest..
[06:10] <zarilion> hmmm. you actually can get 250 as 2,5" s-ata-
[06:11] <sjck> that sounds better
[06:11] <zarilion> Can anyone give me the command to reconfigure xserver?
[06:11] <Dr_willis> !fixres
[06:11] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:11] <Dr_willis> Hmm. thats not it.. :0
[06:11] <Dr_willis> !reconfigure
[06:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about reconfigure - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:12] <Dr_willis> I bet its mentioned on that site however.
[06:12] <subtrnl> zarilion: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:12] <zarilion> Hmm.  Can't read it.. Using terminal now.. irssi.
[06:12] <zarilion> subtrnl: Thank you.
[06:12] <Dr_willis> i can never rember the last part. :0
[06:13] <Dr_willis> then again. i always keep backups of the working xorgs :)
[06:13] <subtrnl> Dr_willis: yeah, I try to too
[06:13] <subtrnl> lord knows how many times I jack up my xorg.conf
[06:13] <Dr_willis> its amazing how simple the xorg.conf files I have are these days.
[06:14] <wightstraker> xorg.conf is not my friend
[06:14] <subtrnl> hehe, yeah once you get them cleaned up they can be really compact
[06:15] <Dr_willis> heck the original one ubuntu made was rather slim. :0
[06:15] <Dr_willis> im still not sure why the config tools for the nvidia stuff like to disalbe the logo.. :)  i LIKE the logo..
[06:15] <subtrnl> hehe
[06:15] <Dr_willis> I like to enable the mouse shadow also.
[06:16] <subtrnl> yeah, I ran linux years ago and decided to come back to it just recently
[06:16] <sjck> how can I disable login-screen (autologin)? :)
[06:16] <subtrnl> It's amazing how far it has come with the eye candy
[06:19] <DaSkreech> Bored :)
[06:20] <subtrnl> sjck: K-Menu->System Setting->Login Manager->Conv tab
[06:21] <sjck> thanks, reboot. :)
[06:28] <Wolf23> anyone help me with gmokii please!!
[06:29] <sjck> <3 klipper :)
[06:30] <subtrnl> hehe
[06:34] <Linus2> Wolf23: You might just try asking your question.  If someone knows an answer, they are more likely to just answer than to guess if they can help
[06:44] <timbo__> how do i disable sounds in kopete
[06:47] <Linux_Galore> timbo__: settings->confgure notifications in the main window
[06:49] <timbo__> Thank you very much
[06:49] <timbo__> that was easy
[06:49] <timbo__> i knew that i had seen it before
[06:49] <timbo__> but then i couldnt find it lol
[06:52] <Linux_Galore> timbo__: all kde apps seem to have the same method
[06:52] <timbo__> i seen that
[06:52] <timbo__> guess im just tired and didnt notice the sound before now
[06:53] <timbo__> worked a 12 hour day and those sounds were driving me nutzo
[06:53] <Linux_Galore> just tested the none manual method of setting up a network printer in Kubuntu, total no brainer, only issue was it doesnt seem to start cups when you want to set it up you have to go back to services and turn cups on
[06:54] <Linux_Galore> Kbuntu 7.10 that is
[06:54] <Linux_Galore> I almost went and did a started the cupsd inits script from the command line and had to stop myself as Im doing a newbie user test
[06:55] <Linux_Galore> s/did//
[06:57] <DaSkreech> Linux_Galore: I know newbie tests are hard
[06:57] <DaSkreech> How would i do this the wrong way?
[06:58] <Linux_Galore> seem to have found a minor bug in Kubuntu 7.10, I tried to setup a network printer (HP C6180), so i went into the printer setup section in settings and it did a dummy spit about cups not being started, now instead of just asking me if I wanted cups started it went gave a vague error (well to a newbie it was for me I knew what was wrong cups wasnt running)
[06:58] <DaSkreech> Linux_Galore: Did an update
[06:58] <DaSkreech>  i just had a cups update
[06:59] <Linux_Galore> DaSkreech: cups works fine its a method problem in the printer setup
[06:59] <DaSkreech> kk
[06:59] <Linux_Galore> DaSkreech: dont forget a newbie hasnt got a clue what cups is
[06:59] <DaSkreech> Sure
[07:00] <DaSkreech> They are what you Put Kaffine in
[07:00] <DaSkreech> right?
[07:00] <Linux_Galore> DaSkreech: I had to get out of the print setup and go into the system services section and start cups, I shouldnt have had to do this
[07:01] <Linux_Galore> DaSkreech: heh
[07:02] <Linux_Galore> DaSkreech: well ignoring the cups thing in the graphical print setup tool getting the HP C6180 working over a network was rather easy
[07:02] <Linux_Galore> only other bug was Im using metric as my default and cups seems to use US-Letter instead of the metric A4 page size
[07:03] <Linux_Galore> so I had to change the default page size in the settings section of the print setup tool
[07:04] <Linux_Galore> I should have had to change the page size if the country Im in is metric
[07:04] <Linux_Galore> s/should/should not/
[07:08] <Linux_Galore> How does one disable strigi, it segs faults all the time for me and I dont use it anyway
[07:09] <Linux_Galore> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-systemsettings/+bug/148054 bugger
[07:09] <Linux_Galore> there isnt one
[07:10] <Linux_Galore> sudo apt-get remove strigi-*
[07:10] <Linux_Galore> lol that kills it
[07:10] <hydrogen> yea
[07:10] <hydrogen> probably your best bet
[07:13] <Linux_Galore> sudo apt-get remove strigi-daemon seems to be the best
[07:13] <Ertain> Hello everyone.
[07:14] <Linux_Galore> what I find annoying is it didnt ask me if I wanted strigi
[07:14] <smacker> !se
[07:14] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[07:16] <Ertain> I've been trying to build a pack for Ksquirrel-libs for the latest version (0.7.2).  I can't find any source packages so I had to make it from scratch.  Every time I make the pack it doesn't contain the right files.  Any ideas?
[07:21] <DaSkreech> Woah
[07:21] <DaSkreech> Linux_Galore: Sorry you were saying?
[07:22] <Linux_Galore> heh
[07:22] <DaSkreech> Konversation no longer has the tree by default?
[07:22] <Linux_Galore> ?
[07:23] <DaSkreech> KDE froze right after I pulled down the updates :-(
[07:23] <DaSkreech> When I came back up and started konversation behold! Tabs and no treelist
[07:26] <ardchoille> a treelist robs valuable space from the main window anyway
[07:27] <DaSkreech> Of many leaves and parts
[07:27] <DaSkreech>  wheee
[07:28] <DaSkreech> in any case we shall see if the icon mouseovers freeze up the computer again
[07:36] <InvSym> hi
[07:37] <InvSym> i added an additional hd to my comp but kubuntu says only root can mount it. Anyone know how to make it work?
[07:38] <InvSym> I added lines to fstab and mtab but still won't mount
[07:38] <InvSym> i'm new to kubuntu and linux
[07:39] <sub[t] rnl> look in start->system settings->advanced-> disk & filesystems
[07:40] <ardchoille> InvSym: Can you show us the line you used in fstab for the new drive?
[07:40] <InvSym> ok
[07:41] <InvSym> i added
[07:41] <InvSym> .../dev/hdb1       /media/hdb1     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[07:42] <InvSym> and same line for hdb5,  one drive , two partitions
[07:42] <InvSym> the line is a copy with edit of the lines that do work for the drive that was present when i installed kubuntu
[07:43] <ardchoille> InvSym: Ok, and it's the /dev/hdb1 drive you want mounted?
[07:43] <InvSym> that and /dev/hdb5
[07:43] <InvSym> i added a line for each
[07:43] <ardchoille> InvSym: ok and they are both vfat file systems?
[07:43] <InvSym> yes
[07:44] <ardchoille> InvSym: open a terminal and do:
[07:44] <InvSym> when I try to mount them it says only root can mount
[07:44] <InvSym> term is open
[07:44] <ardchoille> InvSym: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1
[07:44] <ardchoille> InvSym: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hdb5 /media/hdb5
[07:45] <ardchoille> Assuming that hdb5 line is the correct mount point
[07:45] <InvSym> gave command, it says...  mount: mount point /media/hdb1 does not exist
[07:46] <ardchoille> InvSym: sudo mkdir /media/hdb1 /media/hdb5
[07:46] <ardchoille> InvSym: Then proceed with the mount commands.
[07:46] <InvSym> there is no folder hdb1 in media, I didn't make it cause I thought the os would make it
[07:46] <ardchoille> You have to have the mount point (/media/hdb1 in this case) created before trying to mount
[07:47] <InvSym> ok, guess I better do that
[07:47] <ardchoille> you have to make those directories manually
[07:47] <InvSym> will do
[07:48] <ardchoille> Once you have them mounted you can leave them mounted and they should automount on reboot from now on since you have those lines in fstab
[07:48] <InvSym> do i need any option with the mkdir command?
[07:48] <ardchoille> no
[07:49] <ardchoille> but you do need touse sudo
[07:49] <InvSym> ok, thanks
[07:50] <Creationist> I have a very serious issue here...
[07:50] <Creationist> Why is KMines so fricken hard!?!
[07:51] <ardchoille> Creationist: Do you know how to use the numbers to figure out where the mines are?
[07:51] <Creationist> ardchoille: lol yes, I do... that was more of a joke than anything else.  But seriously, it's the most difficult fricken mine game I've ever played
[07:52] <Creationist> I lose more games before any empty space is revealed than anything else.
[07:52] <ardchoille> Creationist: Settings > Choose Game Type ?
[07:52] <Creationist> ardchoille: This is on easy ;)
[07:52] <ardchoille> Creationist: perhaps you need to install lib-luck.so.0, lol
[07:52] <Creationist> I remember playing the Gnome version and actually enjoying it.  But with KMines, I just click three times and boom... eh well
[07:53] <InvSym> made those dirs, gave the mount commad for hdb1 and it worked
[07:53] <ardchoille> InvSym: Good job :)
[07:53] <InvSym> hdb5 not work, think i have an error in my mtab
[07:53] <InvSym> I'll fix
[07:53] <InvSym> but thanks, that's great
[07:53] <Creationist> ardchoille: Oh, if only I could "apt-get install makemelucky.so" :)
[07:53] <ardchoille> yw
[07:53] <ardchoille> Creationist: heh, I'm still waiting for libpatience.so.0
[07:53] <Creationist> haha
[07:54] <Creationist> Lemme know when they release a stable version of libeverythingworksflawlessly.so.0 ;)
[07:54] <ardchoille> lol, gentoo made me very aware that I was missing that lib
[07:54] <ardchoille> Creationist: hahaha
[07:55] <Creationist> Oh goodness.... when I was about 17-18, I think, I chose Gentoo for my very first Linux distro ever.
[07:55] <Creationist> Needless to say, I didn't try Linux again for almost a decade ;)
[07:55] <InvSym> thanks tons, awesum, going to reboot, bye :)
[07:57] <ardchoille> Creationist: Yeah, it kicked my bum too, but I went on to others. Kubuntu, tho, is the best distro I've ever seen and I have spent serious time in 17 distros.
[07:59] <Creationist> Well, I'm just so glad to be rid of Microsoft ... I only wish I could forsake Windows, but alas, I enjoy games too much (I'm not 30 yet, time to cling to my youth) ;)
[08:00] <Creationist> Well, anywho... I just came in to complain incessantly about the devolopers of KMines before heading to bed :P.  Goodnight, everyone...
[08:00] <ardchoille> good night Creationist
[08:10] <dhq> !gusty
[08:10] <ubotu> It is spelt !guTSy :)
[08:10] <dhq> !gutsy
[08:10] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[08:10] <dhq> !kde4
[08:10] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php
[08:10] <dsmith> heh
[08:14] <ardchoille> Here's another reason to love this distro: http://ardchoille.pastebin.us/40006
[08:15] <ardchoille> I have konversation, konqueror, firefox, konsole, gkrellm, and kontact open
[08:15] <hero> and that's good?
[08:15] <ardchoille> I'm not sure if that's a kubuntu things or a Linux thing but my memory usage isunder 40%
[08:15] <ardchoille> 2Gb ram
[08:25] <hero> !zope > hero
[08:26] <bazhang> hey
[08:28] <bazhang> quick question: I just a bought a new computer with Vista (ugh) already installed; how do I boot up from the CD/DVD drive so I can install Kubuntu? I tried holding the 'C' key down, but Vista just keeps popping up--or is there a way to install from within Vista? Thanks!
[08:29] <dsmith> burn live CD
[08:29] <Tm_T> bazhang: bios? you might like to have CD/DVD as your 1st boot device
[08:29] <dsmith> oops I was going to say that tim
[08:29] <Tm_T> who is tim?
[08:30] <bazhang> Tm_T: will that work? so I would choose the CD drive as the Master?
[08:30] <bazhang> Is there a way to download a file that starts the install from within Vista, or after restart?
[08:31] <Tm_T> bazhang: not that I know
[08:31] <Tm_T> bazhang: and I dont talk about master/slave
[08:32] <Tm_T> bazhang: boot order != device order
[08:32] <bazhang> Tm_T: thanks...
[08:35] <bazhang> dsmith: any ideas how to do that? I really need to get out of vista and into Kubuntu...
[08:53] <romuloo> hi people...
[08:53] <Lynoure> hello
[08:54] <romuloo> i need some help with mplayer in kubuntu 7.04
[08:54] <romuloo> i'm having two problems
[08:55] <romuloo> 1. mplayer only works on line command
[08:55] <romuloo> 2. the subtitle is very large
[08:55] <romuloo> anybody can help me?
[08:57] <romuloo> ...
[08:58] <DaSkreech> bazhang: Press F11/F12 when booting up
[08:59] <DaSkreech> romuloo: Hmm?
[08:59] <DaSkreech> You get subtitles on the ocmmand line?
[09:00] <romuloo> no, I only do mplayer file.avi
[09:01] <DaSkreech> and that gives you a GUi
[09:01] <ardchoille> romuloo: launch gmplayer
[09:01] <romuloo> yeah
[09:02] <romuloo> DaSkreech
[09:02] <DaSkreech> Or kmplayer
[09:03] <romuloo> it's my second problem
[09:03] <romuloo> error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device
[09:03] <romuloo> DaSkreech
[09:03] <romuloo> ops... my first problem
[09:04] <romuloo> this message error always appears
[09:04] <DaSkreech> have you read the help page for mplayer?
[09:04] <DaSkreech> Oh I think I had that as well
[09:04] <DaSkreech> :-/
[09:04] <DaSkreech> I forget what caused it
[09:04] <romuloo> try to remember :)
[09:05] <ardchoille> romuloo: You need to go into the mplayer options and change your video out device
[09:05] <romuloo> i tried to modify the video driver to xv
[09:05] <romuloo> but not works
[09:05] <ardchoille> Try a different one, there are several.
[09:06] <romuloo> i'll try now...
[09:06] <blekos> guys i really need ur help. last night i did and update. The new kernel 2.6.22-13 was installed. One I try to boot from that kernel
[09:07] <blekos> i get the message kinit no resume image
[09:07] <blekos> but when i boot from -12 everythings seems 2 work fine
[09:07] <ardchoille> blekos: Gutsy help is in #ubuntu+1
[09:07] <blekos> ok
[09:09] <romuloo> ardchoille
[09:09] <romuloo> i've tried all of them... not works =(
[09:09] <FossZombie> anyone else experiance the package manager taking way long after clicking a item to install?
[09:11] <ardchoille> romuloo: Don't you have to restart mplayer after switching video devices?
[09:11] <romuloo> do you know how to decrease the subtitles size?
[09:11] <ardchoille> no, I haven't used mplayer in a while
[09:13] <romuloo> do you know, DaSkreech?
[09:13] <DaSkreech> nope
[09:13] <DaSkreech> #mplayer maybe?
[09:14] <romuloo> good idea.. i'm noob here :)
[09:14] <romuloo> thanks, DaSkreech and ardchoille
[09:20] <ardchoille> yw
[09:24] <anto_> Heya, how do i change the slash screen on my computer when i try and use kdmtheme it says its not a valid slash theme but i downloaded it from www.kde-look.org
[09:27] <dsmith> why do ppl ask a question then leave in 2 mins?
[09:28] <Listener> hello to everybody! does anybody know how much memory eclipse requires for smooth working in kubuntu?
[09:29] <dsmith> !eclipse
[09:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eclipse - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:29] <DaSkreech> As much as you can give it
[09:29] <naught101> My girlfriend's dell xps1210 laptop has just started dieing with no reason given about 1-1.5 minutes after entering kde
[09:29] <dsmith> battery?
[09:30] <naught101> the screen suddenly goes blank (black), and then after another 15-20 secs, it shuts down
[09:30] <naught101> dsmith: it's plugged in
[09:30] <dsmith> ok
[09:30] <dsmith> new install?
[09:30] <naught101> it's happened a few times to her, and twice for me
[09:30] <naught101> no, it's been on feisty since feisty came out
 <DaSkreech>thanks
[09:30] <dvnayande> is it possible to erase the whole tmp drive whenever you want?
[09:31] <naught101> She says she hasn't upgraded anything
[09:31] <dsmith> hmmmmmmmmmm
[09:31] <dsmith> strange
[09:31] <naught101> dsmith: it's comeing out of hibernation
[09:31] <dsmith> i'm leaning towards hardware
[09:32] <dsmith> oh, hmmmmm
[09:32] <naught101> I'll try to shut it down before it dies
[09:32] <dsmith> try not using hibernation for a while
[09:32] <dsmith> and see how it fares
[09:33] <dsmith> hibernation is hit or miss
[09:33] <naught101> it wasn't possible - every time it died, it would restart out of hibernation... this time I sudo rebooted before it died.... might fix it
[09:33] <dsmith> oh so you start initially
[09:34] <naught101> hibernation is great for me
[09:34] <dsmith> and then hibernate it, then come out and it crashes?
[09:34] <naught101> no, it just started doing it this once, but it kept coming out of the same hibernation state, then dieing
[09:36] <dsmith> I do not have enough exp. to make a suggestion at this time
[09:36] <dsmith> so its stuck in a loop
[09:36] <coreymon77> well
[09:37] <coreymon77> for some reason im still awake at 3:30 in the morning
[09:37] <coreymon77> and on irc for that matter
[09:37] <Lynoure> naught101: does it do it with live cd? with other OSes? (if it thought battery was near-empty, it would do something similar)
[09:37] <naught101> Lynoure: haven;t tried yet, will if this fails
[09:37] <naught101> yeah, it's in a loop
[09:38] <naught101> it comes out of hibernation and immediately hibernates, I thinkk
[09:38] <dsmith> coreymon77: welcome to the fold.. :)
[09:39] <coreymon77> dsmith: lol
[09:41] <DaSkreech> I'll one up you
[09:41] <DaSkreech> I'm playing kobo and on irc
[09:42] <coreymon77> DaSkreech: and what time is it?
[09:42] <dsmith> 03:42 for mw
[09:42] <dsmith> ..for me
[09:42] <coreymon77> dsmith: same
[09:42] <naught101> seems like it's fixed... closed and re-opened the lid (for the hibernation switch) when it started up, and it shut down...
[09:43] <dsmith> ok cool
[09:43] <blekos> i'm looking for an external usb camera, and modem that prooved to work with ubuntu linux any suggestions?
[09:44] <sjck> whats better: 320kbps/mp3 or vbr/mp3? :)
[09:44] <DaSkreech> 2:45
[09:44] <coreymon77> DaSkreech: what time you got?
[09:45] <dsmith> ogg
[09:45] <DaSkreech> This is insanely stupid
[09:46] <dsmith> whats that?
[09:46] <DaSkreech> kobo
[09:46] <dsmith> lol
[09:46] <romulo> DaSkreech and ardchoille: guys, just to tell how i fix the problem
[09:46] <DaSkreech> ok
[09:46] <romulo> mplayer -fs -zoom -subfont-autoscale 2 -subfont-osd-scale 4 -subfont-text-scale 3 -subfont-blur 2 <name-of-file>.avi
[09:46] <romulo> :)
[09:46] <DaSkreech> wow
[09:47] <DaSkreech> that looks like an alias waiting to happen
[09:47] <romulo> hahaha
[09:48] <romulo> bye
[09:49] <dsmith> gridwars is a fun game
[09:49] <waylandbill> blekos: just about any new usb camera camera will do. They appear as external usb storage. Digikam probably has a list of cameras too.
[09:51] <Voker57> What's the correct architecture for Intel Core Quad?
[09:53] <dsmith> large square, drawn into quarters?
[09:54] <dsmith> :P
[09:55] <DaSkreech> 686
[10:01] <DaSkreech> Argh!
[10:01] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: yes?
[10:03] <DaSkreech> This game is stupid hard
[10:06] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: dont hate the game, hate the player
[10:07] <DaSkreech> good advice
[10:07] <DaSkreech> good night
[10:11] <coreymon77> goodnight everyone
[10:23] <bazhang> thanks for the help everyone!
[10:36] <mark274838> hey
[10:36] <mark274838> how do you change the login screen?
[10:37] <ardchoille> mark274838: The easiest way is to use the kdmtheme module in kcontrol: sudo apt-get install kdmtheme
[10:38] <mark274838> thats how you change all the login screens and themes?
[10:38] <ardchoille> mark274838: That's the easiest way, unless you want to edit the files manually. Once it's installed open kcontrol and go to the System Administration section in kcontrol
[10:40] <mark274838> ok i typed that all in and now its installed
[10:40] <mark274838> but i cant find it...
[10:40] <ardchoille> mark274838: Now go to http://www.kde-look.org and find some nice kdm login themes. Once downloaded, unpack them into /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes. Open (or restart) kcontrol and select the new theme
[10:41] <ardchoille> mark274838: The kdmtheme manager is a module in kcontrol, not system settings, it's in the System Admin section at the bottom.
[10:41] <mark274838> oh i found it
[10:41] <mige> #ubuntu-cn
[10:44] <mark274838> cool
[10:44] <mark274838> ok well ill have to look at it tomorrow
[10:44] <mark274838> thanks dude
[10:44] <ardchoille> yw
[10:54] <naught101> compiz in kde: I have a "cube", and the rotation is working, but it's only go two sides.
[10:54] <naught101> my compiz has a plane instead of a cube...
[10:55] <naught101> anybod know how to get it to look like a cube?
[10:56] <hume> hi... I find that kubuntu feisty does not recognize an encrypted usb drive when I connect it, and prompt for password, as does Gnome and Xfce. Is there a way to have this function in kde?
[11:07] <rayniac> hi
[11:18] <marwan> hello
[11:18] <z4nD4R> hi all
[11:18] <ardchoille> !hi
[11:18] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[11:31] <ardchoille> hi ScorpKing
[11:31] <ScorpKing> hiya ardchoille. :)
[11:31] <bazhang> so when do they start phasing out the older releases like feisty, etc.?
[11:32] <bazhang> once gutsy is released, that is..
[11:32] <ScorpKing> it's so quiet. :( isn't anyone breaking something?
[11:32] <ardchoille> Each release, except the LTS releases, has 18 months of support, iirc
[11:33] <ardchoille> ScorpKing: Been quiet for almost an hour
[11:34] <ScorpKing> hmmm. that suck
[11:36] <ardchoille> ScorpKing: I want to put knoppix, sysresccd, kubuntu, ubuntu and DAL live cd's all on one dvd and be able to boot to a menu that allows you to choose which distro you want to run. Got any ideas about that?
[11:36] <ardchoille> s/DAL/DSL/
[11:36] <jussi01> ScorpKing: I could break you... :P
[11:36] <ScorpKing> hehe
[11:37] <jussi01> ScorpKing: this time on a sturday is always quiet
[11:37] <ScorpKing> ardchoille: that could be usefull. let me think a sec...
[11:37] <jussi01> ardchoille: are they all debian based?
[11:37] <ardchoille> jussi01: Lemme check
[11:37] <jussi01> ardchoille: I dont think you could do it though...
[11:38] <ardchoille> jussi01: sysresccd is slackware based
[11:38] <ardchoille> and sysresccd is gentoo based
[11:38] <jussi01> ardchoille: I cant see it happening
[11:38] <ScorpKing> ardchoille: The Ultimate Boot CD use something like that. maybe you can have a look how they've done it.
[11:38] <llutz> ardchoille: http://www.linux.com/articles/52927
[11:41] <ardchoille> That linux.com article talks about a livecd maker that no longer exists
[11:42] <ardchoille> ScorpKing: Interesting: http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/customize.html
[11:42] <ScorpKing> heh, i have 9 seconds lag and can't follow links. i'll try tho. :(
[11:44] <ardchoille> talks about adding things to UBCD
[11:45] <ScorpKing> yeah. i managed to follow that one but it's put me on 13s lag. hehe
[11:45] <ardchoille> lol
[11:47] <ScorpKing> 1s lag :)
[11:47] <yeniklasorr> Are all ubuntu servers has latest and same packages
[11:48] <yeniklasorr> on adept
[11:48] <ScorpKing> i think so. can't see why they won't.
[11:48] <stdin> they all update from the main archive, some can be a few hours out of date
[11:49] <yeniklasorr> stdin thanks
[11:49] <jussi01> !avi
[11:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:04] <ScorpKing> this is boring. :P bbl
[12:05] <roguejedix> Hey, can anyone tell me what's up with my apt-get? http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/727738
[12:05] <snitch-> why is it that everytime a accidentally turn the PC off without shuting it down, my kubuntu will have an error when i turned it on
[12:06] <snitch-> any idea?
[12:06] <llutz> snitch-: because your filesystem need a clean shutdown, otherwise they may get damaged and have to be checked
[12:07] <snitch-> how to repair it?
[12:07] <llutz> snitch-:try to run fsck  and just don't "accidentally turn the PC off"
[12:08] <snitch-> ah ok
[12:08] <snitch-> thanks
[12:08] <roguejedix> Er, anyone?
[12:08] <hollandlucas_> hey
[12:08] <roguejedix> I kinda need the universe repo, too
[12:08] <hollandlucas_> any idea why they included open office instead of koffice in Kubuntu?
[12:08] <Lynoure> roguejedix: have not even looked at it yet...
[12:09] <roguejedix> Oh, sorry
[12:09] <Lynoure> roguejedix: sometimes quoting the error message you get alongside the pastebin url speeds the response :)
[12:10] <stdin> roguejedix: try removing all the files in /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/  "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/*" then run "sudo apt-get update" again
[12:12] <roguejedix> Lynoure: I know, but I figured with error messages that long it might qualify as flooding
[12:12] <roguejedix> stdin: It worked, thanks! What did I do, anyway?
[12:14] <stdin> roguejedix: sometimes the download has a bad block, and when you try to redownload it tries to resume (not good if the bit you have is bad). so you removed that partial download to start a fresh
[12:17] <deviance> !adeptfix
[12:17] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[12:18] <roguejedix> stdin: That makes sense. My ISP's DNS servers went down yesterday when I was updating
[12:35] <mfonz85> hi all, is there any1??
[12:36] <pag> !hi | mfonz85
[12:36] <ubotu> mfonz85: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[12:36] <RivaeAerya> how do i set dolphin as default file manager?
[12:36] <mfonz85> hi all guys ;-)
[12:37] <mfonz85> does any1 knows a bit how to configure anjuta IDE??
[12:37] <pag> RivaeAerya, kcontrol ->  search for file accosiations -> inode -> folder
[12:37] <pag> s/folder/directory/  :)
[12:38] <mfonz85> because i'm having the compile error "gtk/gtk.h no such file or directory"
[12:39] <mfonz85> and I don't know how to conf anjuta for adding the gtk library :-(
[12:39] <stdin> tried installing the package?
[12:39] <mfonz85> yep
[12:40] <MetaMorfoziS> mfonz85 > try sudo apt-get build-dep anjuta
[12:40] <stdin> i mean for anjuta
[12:40] <RivaeAerya> pag: hey, that worked :)
[12:40] <RivaeAerya> pag: and that makes it the default for everything?
[12:40] <MetaMorfoziS> this gets and installs the dependancies of anjuta (that needs for compilation)
[12:40] <stdin> RivaeAerya: in kde, yeah
[12:40] <mfonz85> yep, all the gtk dev libs installed with adept
[12:40] <MetaMorfoziS> mfonz85 > ^^
[12:40] <stdin> mfonz85: have you tried installing anjuta package, "sudo apt-get install anjuta" ?
[12:41] <mfonz85> trying right now ^^
[12:42] <mfonz85> sorry guys maybe it is a stupid noob question but I apologize with you, i'm very new in the linux world ;-)
[12:42] <mfonz85> meanwhile the konsole is working...
[12:43] <stdin> you should only compile applications as a last resort, if there are no packages available
[12:44] <mfonz85> same error: gtk/gtk.h not found :-(
[12:44] <stdin> mfonz85: after you install the anjuta package it's already installed. you don't need to compile it
[12:44] <stdin> mfonz85: look in the KMenu
[12:45] <slackern> mfonz85: these installed ? http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=gtk.h&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=feisty&arch=i386
[12:45] <mfonz85> I forgot...i'm trying to compile the auto-generated code of anjuta of a C project in GTK
[12:45] <mfonz85> no no guys...anjuta is already installed and working ;-)
[12:45] <stdin> oh ok :)
[12:45] <mfonz85> everything fine
[12:45] <mfonz85> but I cant compile anything into it :-(
[12:45] <stdin> try installing libgtk2.0-dev and libgtk1.2-dev then
[12:46] <aljoscha> hello, how can i change the target from /dev/cdrom ?
[12:46] <mfonz85> already done yesterday...installed them with adept, is it ok isn't it??
[12:48] <mfonz85> but now...the problem i think is with the conf of the project...someway i have to tell anjuta with some linker flags where to find the gtk libraries....
[12:48] <aljoscha> hi, /dev/cdrom ist pointed to hdd, but i want to change it to hdc - how can i do it?
[12:50] <stdin> mfonz85: try asking in #anjuta
[12:50] <mfonz85> there's any1 :-(
[12:51] <mfonz85> by the way, tnx 4 the help
[12:51] <zeke> hello all
[12:52] <zeke> what is the software source for libxine-extracodecs in feisty...I can't seem to install them in gutsy
[12:53] <stdin> zeke: the package is libxine1-ffmpeg in gutsy
[12:53] <arash> Hi, is it only me or does the seach function in Konqueror not work? The results are not explained
[12:53] <HiGenix> Hey guys, how do I make a program run when I log in? Where do I have to put the shortcut to the program?
[12:54] <zeke> I have that installed, but I still can't play mp3 in amarok or hear anything on movies in kaffeine
[12:54] <stdin> !autostart | HiGenix
[12:54] <ubotu> HiGenix: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[12:54] <stdin> zeke: well, that is the package that plays mp3s
[12:55] <zeke> hmmm...I'll try it again...
[12:55] <zeke> thanks
[12:55] <HiGenix> Thanks ubotu/stdin. :)
[12:59] <zeke> hoo ha....silly me...pcm volume was muted
[12:59] <stdin> ;)
[01:00] <caguva> hola mundo
[01:00] <zeke> now do you know how to get louder playback from files in acidrip?
[01:01] <stdin> I don't use acidrip, so no
[01:01] <stdin> !es | caguva
[01:01] <ubotu> caguva: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:01] <zeke> hmmm...I think it might have something to do with the gain option in the audio tab, but I'm not sure
[01:01] <zeke> I like to back up my investments
[01:02] <zeke> !kaffeine
[01:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kaffeine - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:05] <arash> zeke, could you listen to several applications making sound before, if not, the problem might be that some program uses the sound output, blocking the others
[01:08] <uga> planning a distro stable release with release candidate apps doesn't sound like a good idea
[01:10] <stdin> uga: how many linux apps do you think aren't even at version 1.0 yet?
[01:10] <uga> stdin: one thing is a non 1.0. Another thing is a pre-release
[01:10] <uga> like gimp for example
[01:10] <uga> there's stable releases
[01:10] <uga> why push 1.4 RC
[01:11] <uga> it's not meant to be used. If you ask in #gimp-devel or whatever, sure they say "use at your own risk"
[01:11] <stdin> because people demand it, and it's a chance to test it
[01:11] <uga> heh, testing is good in an alpha release, not for a stable. But hey, that's up to kubuntu maintainer's
[01:12] <stdin> ubuntu's actually, kubuntu maintainers have little say over non-kde apps
[01:14] <zeke> it's not that...I got that fixed...It's just that personally owned movies that I back up using acidrip have very low playback volume
[01:22] <uga> stdin: heh, right
[01:29] <GuHHH> can anyone help me? i can't unzip a file: http://paste.debian.net/38933
[01:29] <uga> GuHHH: it's either a broken zip file, or not a zip file at all
[01:30] <uga> GuHHH: try "file filename.zip"
[01:30] <zeke> so if I'm running a 32bit os on a 64bit processor, can I run a 64bit os using..say...vmware etc...?
[01:30] <uga> zeke: uhm... I believe it's possible, but not too sure
[01:31] <zeke> just have to try it?
[01:31] <zeke> heh
[01:31] <stdin> I don't think you can't run a 64bit virtual machine on a 32bit OS
[01:31] <uga> I have the 64bit version here, so I can't tell, sorry
[01:32] <zeke> I'll just try it out and make a post somewhere if it works...not getting my hopes up though
[01:32] <GuHHH> uga: i tried rename it to iso, but it says itsnt a iso9660 file ;/
[01:33] <uga> GuHHH: have you tried "file filename.zip" yet?
[01:33] <GuHHH> uga: uphuck_10.4.9_v1.4i_r3.iso.zip: data
[01:33] <uga> stdin: when I tried running a 64bit os on 32bit machine it actually didn't work (obviously), but it was checking for the cpu support iirc, rather than os support
[01:34] <uga> stdin: I don't see why vista 32 for example can't run linux 64
[01:34] <uga> (as far as the cpu is 64bit)
[01:34] <uga> zeke: heh sure. let us know
[01:34] <uga> GuHHH: that's not a zip file
[01:35] <stdin> uga: I'm thinking no because the the guest OS will try sending 64bit requests to the 32bit kernel (square peg, round hole scenario)
[01:35] <uga> GuHHH: try "less uphuck....iso.zip" it may contain text?
[01:36] <GuHHH> uga: nothing
[01:36] <uga> stdin: I believe cpu executions run stright though, pass through
[01:36] <uga> stdin: else the vm would be too slow
[01:36] <stdin> uga: no, goes through a kernel driver, has to
[01:36] <zeke> well, it is an AMD, if it has any chance of working at all...
[01:36] <uga> stdin: bet a coffee? =)
[01:36] <uga> zeke: ouch =)
[01:36] <stdin> uga: yep :)
[01:37] <uga> GuHHH: nothing? what's the file size.
[01:37] <uga> GuHHH: it sounds like you got a corrupt file
[01:37] <GuHHH> 1gb
[01:38] <GuHHH> uga: i download it through torrent, i found it hard to be corrupted
[01:38] <uga> maybe the source file was corrupt
[01:38] <uga> or it's some newer "zip" format
[01:38] <uga> wasn't there a zip7 or zip9?
[01:38] <uga> strange that less doesn't show anything though
[01:38] <uga> and that file doesn't recognise the file type
[01:39] <stdin> unless it's a partial download
[01:41] <uga> stdin: "But will it also run my 64-bit VM inside a 32-bit host? Point, click, launch.Believe it or not, it is working! I will post a screenshot tomorrow as I do not have access"
[01:42] <uga> stdin: so where do I pick up my coffee? :P
[01:42] <uga> from this forum http://blogs.msdn.com/volkerw/archive/2005/11/02/488540.aspx
[01:42] <stdin> uga: I'll get you a cyber coffee ;)
[01:43] <uga> I expected that anyway. it can just use the vmware driver to push any command straight to the cpu
[01:43] <uga> and it can be both 32 bit and 64bit ready
[01:43] <uga> stdin: lol
[01:43] <uga> zeke: newer amd cpus only are meant to support vmware 64 bit. What's the age of your cpu?
[01:44] <uga> all intels seem to, thanks to the virtualisation specific ops
[01:44] <uga> zeke: btw, have I met you before? that nick... kde?
[01:44] <zeke> ummm..no telling...I just got the comp a few days ago, but there's no telling how long it's been on display at the local radioshack
[01:44] <uga> or maybe it was zecke
[01:44] <zeke> might have been me
[01:45] <uga> that guy was a kde-dev, iirc
[01:45] <zeke> it had...gasp...vista on it...took that off and threw on xp purely for music writing purposes
[01:45] <uga> lol
[01:47] <zeke> vista's alright for the average consumer who has lots of time to wait...or big bucks to get a proper computer
[01:47] <zeke> I have neither
[01:48] <hollandlucas> zeke: vista's not alright
[01:48] <hollandlucas> ;-)
[01:48] <uga> well, I have a proper computer now, but vista won't touch it ;)
[01:49] <zeke> notice I said average consumer...
[01:49] <zeke> we are the cream of the crop here
[01:49] <uga> lol
[01:49] <hollandlucas> the "average consumer" should use XP (if he/she *has to* use Windows)
[01:50] <zeke> well I "have to" since the emu10k2 driver isn't yet compatible with linux
[01:50] <zeke> though I wish it was
[01:50] <zeke> I'd drom MS like a hot potato
[01:50] <hollandlucas> I don't use Windows ;-
[01:50] <hollandlucas> only Linux + OS X
[01:52] <uga> heh, O-S-Ucks
[01:52] <hollandlucas> 9.9
[01:52] <zeke> yeah...I use it purely for music writing purposes...otherwise it would be 7.10 all the way
[01:52] <uga> I'll never forget my first experience with it, trying to burn a music CD. Being unable, and going back to my linux laptop, use cdrecord...
[01:52] <zeke> lol
[01:52] <hollandlucas> uga: that's not a problem with the OS
[01:52] <uga> it was too complex
[01:53] <hollandlucas> uga: you were just used to doing it differently
[01:53] <uga> hollandlucas: well, I thought... okay, osx is great, no burning apps, so, it must be easy... drag and drop to the CD
[01:53] <uga> well, no, didn't work
[01:53] <hollandlucas> uga: you can burn CDs with OS X
[01:53] <hollandlucas> without any extra apps
[01:53] <zeke> I have some hardware being delivered...my old comp is going to become a new mythbox
[01:54] <uga> how am I supposed to guess taht I need to open a music playing app to burn a CD???
[01:54] <hollandlucas> Right click -> New Burn Folder -> Drag all your files in there and press burn
[01:54] <zeke> you can do that with xp too
[01:54] <uga> hollandlucas: I tried for 20 mins or so
[01:54] <hollandlucas> lol
[01:54] <uga> then I'm told you do that through iTunes, now
[01:54] <uga> stupid os...
[01:54] <hollandlucas> uga: OS X is my favourite OS
[01:55] <uga> hollandlucas: it's only ready for geeks though. for very skilled computer users ;P
[01:55] <hollandlucas> lol
[01:55] <zeke> I was going to use my mom's old old comp for the mythbox, but it turned out to be grossly inadequate
[01:55] <hollandlucas> the opposite is true
[01:55] <hollandlucas> my mum uses OS X
[01:55] <zeke> dell xps m400s
[01:55] <hollandlucas> and she used to use XP
[01:55] <hollandlucas> she says OS X feels more intuitive
[01:55] <hollandlucas> and she's by far not a geek ;-)
[01:55] <zeke> 225mhz processor with 32mb ram
[01:56] <uga> heh, a bit limited, yes =)
[01:56] <uga> hollandlucas: trying to DoS me through ctcp-pings?
[01:57] <hollandlucas> uga: yes
[01:57] <hollandlucas> *joking*
[01:57] <zeke> does DSL have a 64bit version?
[01:57] <hollandlucas> zeke: as far as I know: no
[01:57] <hollandlucas> no mention of a 64-bit version on their site
[01:59] <zeke> hrms...
[01:59] <uga> zeke: dsl? is that a proggie?
[01:59] <uga> zeke: all 32bit linux apps I tried here work out of the box
[01:59] <uga> on 64bit
[01:59] <uga> (and 64bit os)
[02:00] <zeke> damn small linux
[02:00] <uga> ah heh
[02:02] <uga> zeke: "Damn Small Linux has been demonstrated on a system with a 233Mhz processor with 16mb of Memory"
[02:02] <uga> you're on the edge with a 225 32MB
[02:07] <ubuntu_> hoz do i get to the xorg fileM
[02:07] <stdin> what file ?
[02:07] <ubuntu_> xorg
[02:07] <stdin> the config file or what?
[02:08] <ubuntu_> the file it self by doind kdesu --kqte /.../xorg
[02:09] <ubuntu_> kate
[02:09] <stdin> xorg.conf is in /etc/X11
[02:10] <Fahuadai> Can someone please tell me how to modify my system menu button so i can add a sub menu on the /home folder.  ie.  /home/pictures  &  /home/music
[02:11] <ubuntu_> stdin: does running a live cd tells u the default of the horizontal and vertical of your screen
[02:11] <stdin> ubuntu_: I have a laptop here, it only has one
[02:12] <zeke> vmware tells me I need IIS to work
[02:13] <ubuntu_> stdin: i; on a cd-live the xorg file is not showing wen i do kdesu --kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:13] <ubuntu_> im
[02:13] <stdin> ubuntu_: it's "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf"  not --kate
[02:13] <ubuntu_> oh
[02:16] <ubuntu_> stdin: my display is 1280x784 how do i get it back to 1280x1024
[02:18] <ubuntu_> got to go
[02:24] <uga> Fahuadai: heh, I can't find out where the menu is, myself, either
[02:29] <uga> Fahuadai: it's possibly not in your /home. I tried grepping through the whole .kde and I didn't find those entries. one of them ought to be system:/
[02:29] <uga> or rather, contain it
[02:49] <arash> Hi, is it only me or does the search function in Konqueror not work? There never are results found, can I search on NTFS drives?
[02:54] <crackhead_25> question: i have a lacie external hard drive ntfs. i was trying to setup fstab so that i could read and write to this ext hd with ntfs-3g, instead of typical ntfs. i went to fstab and added a line which described sdb1, the device node for it.. it was already mounting.. i created a new dir in the media folder for that device node with ntfs-3g.. the directory was there. however, neither that directory nor the original lacie ext folder
[02:54] <crackhead_25> shows any folders/files/data from the ext hd now.. although it did before.. thoughts?
[02:55] <Bauldrick> anyone help me setup cedega on 64bit? I have it running and it 'appears' to install games, but I get an error when trying to run them
[02:57] <crackhead_25> nevermind
[03:12] <BluesKaj> Howdy All :)
[03:23] <caotic> Hi there!
[03:23] <caotic> I am looking for someone to explain me about python language, to know how to install, and use the scripts on python.
[03:26] <Jucato> !python
[03:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about python - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:26] <Jucato> er..
[03:26] <Jucato> caotic: try ##python (or #python )
[03:28] <caotic> thank's
[03:28] <caotic> !
[03:29] <tomi> how to install mp3 support for amarock ?
[03:29] <jpatrick> !mp3
[03:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:32] <Kubuntu> does anyone have an idea why my wireless device suddenley isn't detected?
[03:32] <Kubuntu> it works fine when i boot up with the live cd but when i boot up with my harddrive there is no recognition?
[03:33] <cj_> does iwconfig show it?
[03:33] <cj_> or ifconfig
[03:33] <emilsedgh> !wifi | Kubuntu
[03:33] <ubotu> Kubuntu: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:36] <Kubuntu> after a hd boot when i open system settings -> network settings the only thing showing is etho
[03:36] <Kubuntu> but using the live cd both etho and atho come up
[03:38] <martinus> Hi, has anyone managed to fix bug #131133 here?
[03:39] <Kubuntu> thanks for the wifidocs i'll giveit a shot
[03:40] <Jucato> what bug would that be?
[03:40] <stdin> Launchpad bug 131133 in dell "[gutsy]  no sound on Dell Latitude D630/D830/Precision M4300/Vostro 1500/1700 pci id 8086:284b" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/131133
[03:41] <RivaeAerya> I have a question: I use my PC for watching media, playing music, browsing the interwebs, doing schoolwork, playing games, taking notes, (maybe) listening to radio's, downloading from torrents, chatting on MSN, seeking guitar tabs on the internet, drawing on the computer, reading e-books, checking news about my favorite topics, maintaining my website (a wordpress blog), and playing flash games. Now, my question is: what are good
[03:41] <RivaeAerya> applications for KDE for all those tasks?
[03:42] <tomi> are u using kubuntu 7.04?
[03:42] <RivaeAerya> yes
[03:42] <Jucato> RivaeAerya: kaffeine, amarok, konqueor (or firefox if you want), what kind of school work? what kind of games? basket, amarok, ktorrent, kopete, dunno, Krita/GIMP/Inkscape, kpdf, akregator/knode, quanta/konqueror, konqueror
[03:42] <RivaeAerya> Feisty Fawn
[03:42] <Jucato> RivaeAerya: not all of those are KDE apps
[03:42] <tomi> well u have akmost all of them included
[03:42] <Jucato> and I followed the order in which you asked them
[03:43] <emilsedgh> there are a few applications for guitar tabs, kguitar os something like this, search on kde-apps.org RivaeAerya
[03:43] <hero> if you disable the border in the advanced options of a window's title bar, how do you get it back?
[03:44] <Jucato> oh I misread, "seeking guitar tabs" = browsing the internet = konqueror
[03:44] <RivaeAerya> Jucato: School work: Reports of films, homework, my portfolio, and more. Games: adventure, RPG, and puzzle games.
[03:44] <Jucato> hero: press Alt+F3 to get the menu
[03:44] <hero> awesome
[03:44] <hero> thanks
[03:44] <emilsedgh> RivaeAerya: if you want KDE Games, games.kde.org :)
[03:44] <Jucato> RivaeAerya: schoolwork = koffice or openoffice.org
[03:44] <Jucato> for games.. lots of those.
[03:44] <Jucato> but not all are KDE apps anyway
[03:45] <hero> Jucato: can you disable the scrollbar in xchat, but still have functionality (for instance, be able to scroll with mouse wheel or page up/down)?
[03:45] <Jucato> hero: don't know. I don't use xchat...
[03:45] <hero> ok
[03:45] <hero> just thought i'd ask since #xchat is idle
[03:46] <Jucato> try Ubuntu... although the version of xchat in ubuntu is gnome-ified I think
[03:46] <RivaeAerya> Jucato: okay :) my website is a Wordpress blog, hosted on wordpress.com. I place photo's on there, youtube video's of my favorite music, and misc youtube video's. What program is good for that one?
[03:46] <Jucato> Konqueror = web browser
[03:46] <Jucato> Firefox too (not KDE)
[03:47] <hero> the xchat that is not xchat-gnome is superior
[03:47] <Jucato> like I said, I don't use it :)
[03:47] <RivaeAerya> Jucato: what do you use?
[03:47] <RivaeAerya> Jucato: firefox behaves weirdly for me
[03:47] <Jucato> Konqueror
[03:48] <Jucato> for all those you described
[03:48] <Jucato> except that WP (not .com) in konqueror acts a bit funky
[03:48] <RivaeAerya> yeah, true
[03:48] <Jucato> but I still use it :)
[03:48] <BonBonTheJon> I'm having a problem with Gutsy and NVIDIA binary drivers, I ran nvidia-xconfig, xorg.conf says I'm using nvidia, but the NVIDIA control center says I'm not using the nvidia drivers. Any ideas?
[03:49] <arash> alternatives to Kghostview (for pdf)?, It seems like Kghostview won't zoom and for some reason
[03:49] <Jucato> kpdf for pdf
[03:50] <Jucato> kghostview is actually a postscript (ghostcript) viewer...
[03:50] <ceadda> heya folks
[03:50] <ceadda> anyone here ever use/tru Wubi?
[03:52] <arash> Jucato, ah, works fine! thanks
[03:58] <martinus> BonBonTheJon: under driver in xorg.conf, does it say nv or nvidia?
[04:02] <ombra85> Ho kubuntu Gutsy ed ho aggiornato il kernel a 2.6.22-13 ed ho avuto dei problemi che sono comparsi anche nel kernel 2.6.22-12:
[04:04] <ombra85>  cio quando riavvio mi reinstallo dirver nvidia e ed  ok, entro senza dovermi loggare.Quando esco per forza col termina sessione crasha x ed al riavvio non parte x
[04:04] <ombra85> Non parte perch dice che i driver ed i moduli non hanno la stessa versione
[04:04] <bazhang> !it
[04:04] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[04:04] <ombra85> Excuse me!
[04:18] <romulo> ardchoille... still here? :) you don't like sleep?
[04:18] <silveira_neto> people, I have a camera device plugged in my USB. When I type 'lsusb' I Got "Bus 001 Device 002: ID 07b4:0109 Olympus Optical Co., Ltd". KDE recognizes it but fail to mount it. In Gnome it works fine. How can I mount it by comand line?
[04:20] <DexterF> hi
[04:20] <DexterF> someone using amaranths compiz-fusion? installed here but don't get any effetcs.
[04:21] <DexterF> ps ax shows compize --replace running, but nothing
[04:21] <DexterF> free ati driver, used to work with older version
[04:22] <sahin_h> silveira_neto: type cat /proc/partitions to see what is the device name of your usb card
[04:22] <sahin_h> silveira_neto: Maybe /dev/sda1 or /dev/sdb1 ...
[04:23] <sahin_h> silveira_neto: If you got the correct device name type:
[04:23] <sahin_h> silveira_neto: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[04:23] <sahin_h> silveira_neto: /dev/sdb1 is just an example...
[04:24] <llutz> as user use: pmount /dev/sdXY
[04:24] <silveira_neto> thanks
[04:24] <sahin_h> llutz: Yep, I'm an old fashined guy. ;-)
[04:25] <llutz> sahin_h: me too, but pmount has some advantages so i learn to use this modern stuff ;)
[04:25] <sahin_h> Sorry, so I'm an old-fashioned guy
[04:26] <sahin_h> llutz: I'm going to learn more about this pmount.
[04:26] <silveira_neto> strange, all my devices in /proc/partitions are hdc, hdc1 ... nothing like sda1
[04:27] <llutz> silveira_neto: then that Olympus isn't recognized as mass-storage device
[04:27] <anna_> test
[04:27] <sahin_h> silveira_neto: Yes, that's the problem.
[04:27] <silveira_neto> llutz, but gnome does it.
[04:28] <sahin_h> silveira_neto: Try to use digikam to recognize your camera.
[04:28] <silveira_neto> I'll try now
[04:29] <sahin_h> silveira_neto: My Canon EOS350 not recognized as usb mass storage, however I can download my images with digikam.
[04:29] <llutz> sahin_h: common Canon issue
[04:29] <sahin_h> llutz: This isn't a bug, this is a feature! You know... ;-)
[04:31] <caris_mere> I'm having difficulties using my cdrom...it says "could not read"
[04:32] <jMerliN> !cdrom
[04:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cdrom - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:32] <jMerliN> gay ubot
[04:32] <jMerliN> :(
[04:33] <silveira_neto> KDe tries to open my camera in Konqueror with "camera://Olympus X-450@[usb:001,003] /"
[04:33] <silveira_neto> and fail
[04:34] <momal> Anyone here happen to know of a command line id3 (mp3) tag editor? need it to support utf-8 and parameters on it to edit the tags
[04:34] <caris_mere> What would be a reason why my cdrom can find the title of the cd and info, but can't read it?
[04:34] <llutz> momal: id3tag
[04:35] <ardchoille> romulo: Sleep? What's that?
[04:35] <bazhang> hahaha
[04:35] <zeke> hoo ha
[04:35] <silveira_neto> ops, Digikam now worked \o/ \o/ \o/ !!
[04:36] <momal> llutz: thanks will try it out
[04:36] <bazhang> yes!
[04:36] <zeke> you CAN run a 64bit os on VMWare from a 32bit os
[04:36] <ardchoille> ScorpKing: I agree
[04:36] <romulo> ardchoille: hahaha... did you see the solution for my problem with mplayer?
[04:36] <ScorpKing> hehe :D
[04:36] <ardchoille> romulo: No, what was it?
[04:38] <romulo> the vo device problem wasn't fixed, but the subtitle size... see:
[04:38] <romulo> ardchoille
[04:38] <Kubuntu> can anyone help me "claim" my wireless card?
[04:39] <romulo> ardchoille: mplayer -fs -zoom -subfont-autoscale 2 -subfont-osd-scale 4 -subfont-text-scale 3 -subfont-blur 2 <name-of-file>.avi
[04:39] <romulo> :)
[04:40] <waylandbill> Kubuntu: tell the world it is yours and noone else's ;-)
[04:40] <boliar> hi
[04:41] <Kubuntu> i've allready tried that!
[04:41] <ardchoille> romulo: wow!
[04:41] <boliar> does anybody uses a cable modem and the connection with it is from the USB port???
[04:42] <waylandbill> boliar: is that all your isp offers? sometimes you can ask for an ethernet one.
[04:42] <boliar> yes
[04:42] <Kubuntu> the thing is when i "lshw" it says that the network:0 is UNCLAIMED
[04:42] <boliar> but I need to use the usb option
[04:43] <boliar> I can use the ethernet, but it is used by another computer
[04:43] <boliar> so the USB port is for the second
[04:43] <Kubuntu> my wireless works booting up from the live cd, but not from the hdrive
[04:43] <llutz> boliar: buy a $5 hub/switch
[04:43] <boliar> on windows PC's it works with  this kind of conn.
[04:43] <boliar> :)
[04:44] <boliar> this is not an option
[04:44] <ScorpKing> cat /var/log/messages | grep suspend - say - Usage: grep [OPTION] ... PATTERN [FILE] ... - wtf?
[04:44] <waylandbill> boliar: why do you /need/ to use the usb? if the ethernet dsl modem doesn't have more than one port, you just attach a hub to it and all ethernet computers can use the connection all at the same time.
[04:44] <boliar> the usb port has static IP
[04:44] <boliar> and the other too
[04:44] <llutz> ScorpKing: grep -i suspend /var/log/messages       (useless use of cat)
[04:44] <waylandbill> boliar: so use a router instead of a hub an the router will give you dhcp addresses.
[04:45] <boliar> waylandbill: I know for that, but the one port is used for the server pc
[04:45] <ScorpKing> llutz: ty. :)
[04:45] <boliar> waylandbill: and the other is used for DC++ server
[04:45] <boliar> waylandbill: but they will be not real addresses
[04:45] <boliar> thats the problem
[04:46] <waylandbill> boliar: port forward the wan address to the internal address. most routers easily allow this
[04:46] <boliar> ok
[04:47] <Kubuntu> pls help?
[04:47] <boliar> I will make it with port forwarding
[04:47] <boliar> but I wanted to know can I connect it true USB
[04:51] <shadowhywind> does anyone know of a commandline version of AIM?
[04:51] <llutz> shadowhywind: messenger? finch
[04:51] <shadowhywind> yah, will look into finch
[04:53] <shadowhywind> so finch is just gaim/pidgin then?
[04:53] <llutz> shadowhywind: yep, cmdline-pidgin
[04:54] <shadowhywind> very nice, do you know if finch has the same functionallity as pidgin (aka plugins and stuff)
[04:54] <llutz> shadowhywind: sry, no idea
[04:55] <shadowhywind> ok, guess i will just have to install it and find out, hehe, worst case i just have to remove the package
[04:55] <llutz> that's how it goes
[04:56] <delagrandy> how do I configure samba to work with xp
[04:56] <delagrandy> anyone here
[04:57] <ubunturos> !samba | delagrandy
[04:57] <ubotu> delagrandy: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[04:59] <shadowhywind> what is the command to install a .deb package from the commandline?
[05:00] <llutz> shadowhywind: dpkg -i package.deb
[05:01] <shadowhywind> thanks! some how i can't seam to find finch in apt, so i had download the package instead
[05:01] <blekos> hi, how i can use CNR with ubuntu?
[05:02] <ardchoille> shadowhywind: Have you checked the repos to see if that package is there before manually installing it?
[05:02] <emilsedgh> blekos: what you want to do?
[05:02] <shadowhywind> i did and it can't find it, But searching the webpage repo list it says that it is in there
[05:03] <ardchoille> shadowhywind: Ah, ok. Good job in checking the repos first.
[05:07] <blekos> good question, I am under the impression that i could have access to more programs
[05:08] <ardchoille> enable the universe and multiverse repos and there's tons of stuff :)
[05:09] <Doctor_Nick> ill enable you
[05:11] <jMerliN> how do i set the default web application?
[05:11] <bazhang> jMerliN: as in not Konqueror?
[05:12] <Jucato> System Settings -> Default Applications (only KDE apps obey these settings)
[05:14] <jussi01> !avi
[05:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:15] <STRALIS> Buongiorno a tutti ragazzi
[05:15] <jMerliN> bazhang: yes
[05:15] <jussi01> !it | STRALIS
[05:15] <ubotu> STRALIS: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:15] <STRALIS> un nuovo kubuntiano (nella cacca) tra voi
[05:15] <jMerliN> i uninstalled konqueror and now i want firefox to be the default
[05:15] <STRALIS> ops sorry
[05:16] <ardchoille> jMerliN: What are you using for a file manager?
[05:17] <jussi01> jMerliN: system settings -> default applications
[05:18] <roger> hello
[05:18] <bazhang> roger: hi!
[05:19] <roger> I've been trying to mount a usb key. Not having any luck
[05:19] <ardchoille> What's the name of the twin-pane file manager for kde? I thought it was kommander but that's the wrong name
[05:19] <llutz> krusader
[05:20] <ardchoille> That's it, thanks llutz
[05:20] <jMerliN> ardchoille: dolphin
[05:20] <niyado> hola
[05:21] <ardchoille> jMerliN: Ah, ok.
[05:21] <niyado> tengo dos particiones en un disco duro de 80gb, la mitad para kubuntu 7.10 y ubuntu 7.04, como puedo hacer para borrar una de esas dos particiones??
[05:21] <Jucato> !ies | niyado
[05:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ies - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:21] <llutz> !es | niyado
[05:21] <ubotu> niyado: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:21] <Jucato> sorry
[05:21] <niyado> thx
[05:23] <ceritus> so can anyone help me with my wireless card? i've been through the wiki but can't seem to solve the problem
[05:23] <strog_> how can i format a HD that has like 3 partitions
[05:23] <strog_> the filesystem should be FAT32
[05:26] <jMerliN> am about to download steam and play cs on here lol :P
[05:27] <ceritus> so can anyone help me with my wireless card? i've been through the wiki but can't seem to solve the problem
[05:28] <HELP> Hi, could somebody help me?
[05:29] <HELP> Please, I'm getting 'NTLDR is missing' error.
[05:29] <llutz> HELP: ask in #windows
[05:30] <HELP09> The problem is that I dual booted with KDE and XP
[05:30] <HELP09> and I tried to format the ext3 partition on xp
[05:32] <boliar> hi, why it gives me this http://pastebin.com/d6714fe31 when I am trying to compile kernel ?
[05:32] <boliar> I have made menuconfiguring but it can give to celan it
[05:44] <tom1502> hi, kann mir jemand helfen amarok zujm mp3 abspielen zu bewegen?
[05:44] <llutz> !mp3
[05:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:45] <stdin> !de | tom1502
[05:45] <ubotu> tom1502: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:45] <tom1502> oh, sry, sure... thought i've joined the germand channel
[05:45] <tom1502> well, how can i get amarok to play mp3?
[05:45] <llutz> !mp3 | tom1502
[05:45] <ubotu> tom1502: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:46] <uzer> RUS
[05:46] <tom1502> thx
[05:46] <stdin> !ru
[05:46] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[05:46] <BluesKaj> tom1502, sudo aptitude install libxine1-ffmpeg
[05:47] <bazhang> stdin: what's the command for mongolian?
[05:47] <tom1502> ah, ffmepg
[05:47] <bazhang> sorry for the ot.
[05:47] <stdin> bazhang: not sure
[05:47] <tom1502> feel like a beginner with KDE
[05:47] <stdin> don'r know if there is one bazhang
[05:47] <BluesKaj> tom1502, or libxine-extracodecs
[05:47] <tom1502> i've already installed those
[05:48] <BluesKaj> tom1502, what version of kubuntu ?
[05:48] <tom1502> 7.04
[05:49] <BluesKaj> ok libxine1-ffmpeg is the one
[05:49] <tom1502> amarok doesnt play mp3
[05:49] <BluesKaj> tom1502, logout and in again
[05:49] <Jucato> tom1502: installed "libxine-extracodecs" already?
[05:50] <tom1502> Jucato yes
[05:50] <Jucato> try restarting amarok?
[05:50] <tom1502> oh, logout?1
[05:50] <tom1502> compiz sholdnt hav4e influence on this
[05:50] <Jucato> no it shouldn't.
[05:50] <bazhang> stdin: there isn't but there is one on (bug #1) haha
[05:50] <Jucato> tom1502: have you tried restaring amarok?
[05:51] <tom1502> sure
[05:51] <Jucato> and still doesn't work after that?
[05:51] <Jucato> strange..
[05:51] <tom1502> nope
[05:51] <tom1502> ill be back in a second, just logout and login again...
[05:51] <ksivaji> is there any risk in upgrading from feisty to gusty ?
[05:52] <llutz> ksivaji: sure, gutsy is still beta
[05:52] <ksivaji> ho ...
[05:54] <tom1502> still doesnt work :(
[05:54] <tom1502> anyone an idea?
[05:55] <BluesKaj> ok tom1502, do you see the tune in the playlist and you just aren't getting any sound ?
[05:56] <tom1502> nope, i've got the welcome track and to mp3 files in the list. it plays the welcome thing, and if i press next it jumps to mp3#1, mp3#2 and then ends
[05:56] <tom1502> but the welcome thing works
[05:57] <jMerliN> hi
[05:57] <pag> tom1502, sorry for being sceptical, but what does " apt-cache policy libxine-extracodecs " return?
[05:58] <pag> !hi | jMerliN
[05:58] <ubotu> jMerliN: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[05:58] <tom1502> may i paste the few lines here?
[05:58] <pag> !paste | tom1502
[05:58] <ubotu> tom1502: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:58] <tom1502> yeah i know
[05:58] <tom1502> thats why i asked
[05:59] <tom1502> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39769/
[05:59] <tom1502> looks quite good to me
[06:00] <pag> tom1502, it does. try installing " libxine1-ffmpeg " too..
[06:00] <tom1502> already installed
[06:00] <tom1502> version 1.1.4-2...
[06:01] <BluesKaj> doesn't look right to me tom1502
[06:01] <tom1502> not?
[06:01] <tom1502> whats the matter?
[06:01] <BluesKaj> it should name the application
[06:01] <tom1502> ?
[06:02] <tom1502> u mean the first line?
[06:02] <tom1502> libxine-... : ??
[06:02] <tom1502> didnt copy thatone
[06:02] <pag> tom1502, is amarok using xine engine? (settings -> engines)
[06:02] <tom1502> yup
[06:02] <tom1502> already checked that
[06:03] <pag> tom1502, did you install those packages manually, or via somekind of metapackage?
[06:03] <tom1502> well, the extracodecs package
[06:03] <tom1502> via the tool - adept?!
[06:04] <tom1502> (only remebe synaptics from GNOME... or emerge ^^)
[06:04] <Beyer> Any ideas how to get the goddamn linux notice my mp3player... It's Creative Zen Vision M, 30gb
[06:05] <BluesKaj> !language | Beyer
[06:05] <ubotu> Beyer: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:05] <BluesKaj> Beyer, usb connect ?
[06:05] <Beyer> Oh... sorry for the christian people.
[06:05] <Beyer> Yes
[06:05] <tom1502> no ideas anyone?
[06:05] <pag> tom1502, you could try re-installing those packages.. "sudo apt-get remove libxine-extracodecs libxine1-ffmpeg; sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs libxine1-ffmpeg"
[06:06] <tom1502> lets see
[06:06] <tom1502> no success
[06:07] <pag> Beyer, gnomad2 could work..
[06:07] <tom1502> ok, thx anyway... gotta go now
[06:07] <BluesKaj> Beyer, have you checked System Menu/Storage Media
[06:08] <shadowhywind> anyone know how to fix Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory messages?
[06:13] <poison--> !jpg
[06:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jpg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:13] <poison--> how can i preview pics with konquie?
[06:14] <ardchoille> poison--: View > Preview
[06:14] <poison--> dat i know... but it only shows a grey pic
[06:15] <ardchoille> poison--: I don't know then.. it shows pics here but I turned it off.
[06:17] <poison--> !Konqueror
[06:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konqueror - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:17] <poison--> wtf
[06:17] <ubuntu__> i have na problem with an encrypted root install!where should i go for help?
[06:18] <ubuntu__> my system decrypted my root but then waits
[06:19] <Bauldrick> !anything
[06:19] <ubotu> So, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.
[06:20] <Jucato> :D
[06:20] <stdin> don't mess with ubotu, he's in a bad mood :p
[06:20] <Jucato> ah but it doesn't know anything about something....
[06:21] <bsm> hi, I'm using gutsy with latest updates and cannot run openoffice.org
[06:21] <ardchoille> stdin: That's due to lack of botsnacks
[06:22] <ardchoille> bsm: join #ubuntu+1
[06:22] <stdin> !botsnack
[06:22] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[06:22] <stdin> for being a good bot
[06:22] <stdin> mostly
[06:22] <ardchoille> :)
[06:22] <Jucato> !helpersnack | stdin
[06:22] <ubotu> stdin: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[06:22] <ardchoille> haha
[06:22] <LjL> that one's lame :P
[06:22] <stdin> !opsnack | Jucato
[06:22] <ubotu> Jucato: Chocolate!  And Peanuts!
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[06:23] <llutz> watch you cholesterol!
[06:23] <llutz> +r
[06:26] <poison--> lol
[06:28] <poison--> !share
[06:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about share - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:31] <victor_> hello
[06:33] <NickPresta> hi
[06:38] <uga> re
[06:38] <trogdor> damn there actually people here
[06:39] <trogdor> hello
[06:39] <BluesKaj> heh, don't damn us if you want help :)
[06:39] <trogdor> I was wondering about these new effects features in kde4
[06:39] <neil_kubuntu> Hello all
[06:39] <trogdor> what exactly is that all about?
[06:39] <stdin> ^they aren't people, just convincing robots
[06:40] <BluesKaj> !KDE4
[06:40] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php
[06:40] <trogdor> stdin: exactly! I see bot people >,>
[06:40] <neil_kubuntu> I am trying to install SynCE, so that I can sync my WM6 device with Kubuntu, and have been told that I need to "In your Linux kernel, make sure you have enabled usbserial, ipaq, and PPP support for async serial ports."
[06:40] <trogdor> BluesKaj: nah in relation to compiz-fusion, they adding some of that code into kde4?
[06:40] <neil_kubuntu> Would anyone be able to point me in the right direction, please?
[06:41] <BluesKaj> trogdor, dunno I haven't explored KDE4 all that much
[06:41] <trogdor> neil_kubuntu: if its there then its enabled, compile your own kernel if you don't want stuff enabled
[06:42] <neil_kubuntu> trogdor - so I should (somehow) check my kernel, to see if those modules are present? If they are, then, it should be enabled?
[06:42] <trogdor> BluesKaj: I thought it was kinda a joke seeing as compiz fusion is very bulky and unstable so far still in development. I mean kde already a coupling mess
[06:42] <BluesKaj> telling ppl to compile their own kernel is abit of overkill, trogdor
[06:42] <trogdor> neil_kubuntu: just try it see if it works, I dunno where you would check for that stuff
[06:43] <trogdor> BluesKaj: I told him not to, he said he wanted to
[06:43] <BluesKaj> anyway , naptime for me
[06:43] <trogdor> neil_kubuntu: which kernel you using? "uname -r"
[06:43] <neil_kubuntu> trogdor - dmesg isn't printing the information which the guide I am religiously following shows, so, my guess is that it is not enabled yet
[06:43] <neil_kubuntu> 2.6.20-16-generic
[06:44] <trogdor> neil_kubuntu: usbserial- flash sticks, ipaq- no clue, ppp- dial up stuff
[06:45] <neil_kubuntu> Thanks, trogdor - the modules are used to establish communications to a Windows Mobile device
[06:45] <neil_kubuntu> ipaq is the module for WM handhelds, I think
[06:45] <trogdor> neil_kubuntu: I found this article about ipaq http://www.handhelds.org/handhelds-faq/handhelds-faq.html sounds awesome
[06:46] <neil_kubuntu> Thanks, trogdor- much appreciated. Looks like I should Google each of the modules independently
[06:46] <trogdor> neil_kubuntu: try doing updatedb as root then locate ipaq see if you find anything on your system related to that
[06:48] <neil_kubuntu> trogdor- just fyi, that guide is for running Linux on an iPAQ, rather than syncing an iPAQ with Linux - however, interesting stuff anyway :)
[06:51] <robinson> hey, guys. Just did a clean install of 7.10 beta on my laptop
[06:51] <robinson> anyone having an issue with the volume control not actually lowering the volume?
[06:51] <robinson> it shows it graphically going down, but i have to open the mixer and turn down the PCM channel instead
[06:51] <stdin> #ubuntu+1 is for gutsy help
[06:52] <robinson> sorry
[07:02] <minuoh> hi, is there a way safely downgrade to feisty? in gutsy my wireless stopped working and resume from suspend crashes all the time...
[07:04] <pag> !downgrade | minuoh
[07:04] <stdin> !downgrade | minuoh
[07:04] <ubotu> minuoh: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[07:05] <stdin> who won?
[07:05] <minuoh> ok.,... what could be a reason for wireless networks stop showing in knetworkmanager? i still can see them in wifi-radar
[07:05] <stdin> minuoh: #ubuntu+1 is the gutsy support channel
[07:06] <navets> help: how do I burn a cd iso on a dvd? is it even possible?
[07:07] <minuoh> ok, general question: is there a way to work with wifi from console?
[07:07] <Zombine> navets you just do it.  Most burn apps will let you.
[07:07] <navets> Zombine: will it work with k3b? also will it work as if it was a iso CD?
[07:07] <stdin> navets: just choose to burn a DVD ISO from k3b
[07:08] <dthacker> minuoh: you can up/down the interface from console, and set adresses and gateways.  what are you trying to accomplish?
[07:08] <minuoh> dthacker: choose which network to connect to?
[07:08] <stdin> minuoh: use iwconfig
[07:08] <minuoh> knetworkmanager stopped working with wireless
[07:08] <Zombine> navets: Yeah.  burn a CD image, but put a DVD in.  I don't know for sure if it works on k3b, but it couldn't hurt to try.
[07:08] <poison--> im getting this msg when trying to access my linux share from the share machine: 6486: tree connect failed ( in samba)
[07:08] <minuoh> so i'm trying to figure out the problem
[07:08] <poison--> any ideas?
[07:09] <dthacker> minuoh: I don't know of a utility that does that at command line.
[07:09] <dthacker> minuoh: but that doesn't mean one doesn't exist.
[07:09] <Zombine> Also, my Realtek wifi card has WEP/WPA capabilities, but Ubuntu seems to think otherwise.
[07:09] <navets> stdin: ok, i will try it out, thanks.
[07:10] <minuoh> stdin: thanks, how do i work with wpa from console?
[07:11] <Zombine> I didn't see a driver for my model of card, so not really sure what to do...
[07:11] <stdin> minuoh: using wpa_supplicant I think
[07:11] <minuoh> ok i think i found: wpa_*
[07:16] <minuoh> i'm trying to understand... the led for wifi is off, means interface is not powered right? but then how wifi-radar sees the networks?
[07:20] <stdin> minuoh: the LED may be driver controlled, doesn't mean it's on or off
[07:22] <navets> hey guys burning the cd IsO on a dvd worked. I have a question tho, could you burn more then 1 iso on a dvd since its so big?
[07:23] <stdin> maybe with a multisession disk, but I've never tried
[07:24] <sub[t] rnl> I'm sure you can burn more than one .iso as data files
[07:24] <sub[t] rnl> but you'll have to have a way to mount it virtually
[07:26] <ladyofthenight^^> t
[07:27] <navets> k thanks guys
[07:30] <maverick> does anyone know of widgets for linux rather than gDesklets or SuoerKaramba ?!!
[07:30] <maverick> an no screenlets i don't use composites
[07:30] <maverick> composits
[07:33] <nosrednaekim> hey everyone.
[07:33] <jpatrick> hi
[07:33] <emilsedgh> hey nosrednaekim
[07:34] <asfak> i want to install flash plugin manually to konqueror. how do i do that. I installed libflashplayer.so in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox and got firefox flashplayer installed. but how to install in konq ?
[07:34] <nosrednaekim> so what problems are afloat?
[07:35] <emilsedgh> astan: install flashplugin-nonfree from adept
[07:35] <emilsedgh> asfak: install flashplugin-nonfree from adept manager
[07:36] <alex_> hola
[07:36] <asfak> i know that, but any manual installation hint. (actualy i am dialup user and getting adept manager to retrieve all source take 3-4 hours. and this is my new installation
[07:37] <alex_> alguien en espaniol?
[07:37] <adz21c> asfak: you need to enter that location into the place for konq to scan for plugins
[07:37] <nosrednaekim> !es
[07:37] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:38] <bazhang> nosrednaekim: heya!
[07:38] <alex_> okk, muchas gracias!
[07:38] <nosrednaekim> asfak: konqueror toolbar->settings->plugins
[07:38] <asfak> i did that too. but still does not work. plugin is scanned and seen there.
[07:38] <Dr_willis> maverick,  i was thinking opera had some desktop gizmoa
[07:38] <Dr_willis> maverick,  i was thinking opera had some desktop gizmos
[07:38] <nosrednaekim> asfak: on the other tab, did you enable it?
[07:39] <asfak> let me check
[07:41] <asfak> ok, the problem solved
[07:41] <asfak> thanks nosrednaekim
[07:42] <nosrednaekim> asfak: wasn't enabled?
[07:44] <bootsmorris> can i get compiz working in kubuntu i tried it but it wont work
[07:44] <asfak> no it was enabled, but i forgot to restart.
[07:44] <nosrednaekim> bootsmorris: yeah... you can. where is it stuck?
[07:44] <nosrednaekim> asfak:  ah :)
[07:47] <snellpojke> what is the different betwen ubuntu and kubuntu `?
[07:47] <snellpojke> :P
[07:47] <bazhang> kde?
[07:47] <asfak> how do i view quicktime in firefox ? (enabled in konq )
[07:47] <nosrednaekim> !kubuntu | snellpojke
[07:47] <ubotu> snellpojke: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[07:49] <snellpojke> !kde
[07:49] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.
[07:50] <snellpojke> ok ty
[07:50] <snellpojke> do it take more ram than ubuntu
[07:50] <snellpojke> ?
[07:50] <nosrednaekim> snellpojke: no
[07:51] <nosrednaekim> snellpojke: from my tests, not really
[07:51] <snellpojke> ok
[07:51] <bazhang> gpu maybe
[07:51] <nosrednaekim> bazhang: not really.
[07:51] <snellpojke> much lesser than xp?
[07:52] <bazhang> less than vista...
[07:52] <nosrednaekim> snellpojke: GPU or ram?
[07:52] <snellpojke> ram
[07:52] <bazhang> much much less than Mac or Windows.
[07:53] <nosrednaekim> Zelut: That Jucato...
[07:54] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[07:54] <DaSkreech> I agree
[07:54] <snellpojke> so my celeron 256 ram is not going to lag so much like xp
[07:54] <snellpojke> xD
[07:54] <DaSkreech> What are we talking about?
[07:54] <bazhang> snellpojke: I have a Mac OS X intel core duo with 2GB of ram, and a Thinkpad with 2GB of ram, and guess which is faster?
[07:54] <DaSkreech> snellpojke: With care nope
[07:54] <snellpojke> ok
[07:54] <Dr_willis> snellpojke,  with that low end a system - you Might want to look into some veryt minimal linux disrtos.
[07:54] <tristan_> Hey, are the ubuntu packports down or something? I'm having trouble updating from them.
[07:55] <Dr_willis> tristan_,  been a lot of updates and server load last 3-5 days .
[07:55] <bazhang> 256 ram is not going to be very fun though. probably want to up that at least to 512, or 1GB.
[07:55] <snellpojke> but it isnt my computer
[07:55] <snellpojke> xD
[07:55] <Dr_willis> Puppy, DSL, or FeatherLinux.  may be best for that low end a box.
[07:55] <nosrednaekim> xubuntu is good too
[07:55] <tristan_> Dr_willis: It's cool, seems to work now.
[07:56] <bazhang> xubuntu is not that good.
[07:56] <nosrednaekim> I had ti running well on a 333mhz with 92MB of ram
[07:56] <sub[t] rnl> nosrednaekim: nice
[07:56] <nosrednaekim> sub[t] rnl: I was very surprised, yes
[07:57] <sub[t] rnl> linux is so versital, thats what makes it great
[07:57] <bazhang> no doubt
[07:57] <savetheWorld> e
[07:57] <bazhang> ?
[07:57] <sub[t] rnl> lower end ram might want to stay away from kde as a window manager, but I'm thinking 256 megs of ram is plenty for kde and ubuntu in general
[07:57] <Dr_willis> that - in the  end IS the defacto-stregenth of Linux. :)
[07:57] <sub[t] rnl> Dr_willis: agreed
[07:57] <savetheWorld> just a silent e, effectively nothing.. :)
[07:58] <bazhang> xfce
[07:58] <Dr_willis> Specilization is for Insects. :)
[07:58] <sub[t] rnl> hehe
[07:58] <bazhang> savetheWorld: what's your question?
[07:58] <tomi> can somebody help me pls with damn nvidia GF MX 440 driver. step by stap how to check what driver is installed is it the right driver, if not uninstall that and install the right one, and then config the resolution and the refresh rate. PLS
[07:58] <Lynoure> How can I change the colour of the Amarok analyzer?
[07:59] <snellpojke> so what linux do you recomend for my computer
[07:59] <Dr_willis> tomi,  try installing 'restricted-manager' and let it install them?
[07:59] <DaSkreech> bazhang: Were you asking something last night?
[07:59] <snellpojke> thats dont take much ram
[07:59] <DaSkreech> I recall having an answer for someting you said but you had gone
[07:59] <Dr_willis> snellpojke,  xubuntu if you want a ubuntu variant.
[07:59] <tomi> Dr_willis pls step by steb because im new to linux
[07:59] <Dr_willis> tomi,  you have read the '!nvidia' wiki factoid yet?
[07:59] <Dr_willis> !nvidia
[07:59] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:00] <bazhang> DaSkreech: yeah haha how to get a vista box to boot a kubuntu install box--my brain couldn't get around changing the bios
[08:00] <tomi> !nvidias
[08:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidias - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:00] <tomi> !nvidia
[08:00] <snellpojke> Dr_willis
[08:00] <snellpojke> ok
[08:00] <snellpojke> ty
[08:00] <DaSkreech> bazhang: press F11/F12 at the bios info screen
[08:00] <Dr_willis> tomi,  fire up the package manager, install 'restricted-manager' run it with 'sudo resricted-manager' check the proper drivers for it to install/use/ restatrt/reboot machine
[08:00] <tarsonis> Hey, is it possible to remap the XF86VolumeUp/Down keys? I don't find them mapped somewhere in the kcontrol...
[08:00] <tarsonis> I am using kubuntu
[08:00] <nosrednaekim> tarsonis: yeah... in Kmix
[08:01] <DaSkreech> !kdesu | tomi
[08:01] <ubotu> tomi: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[08:01] <sub[t] rnl> Lynoure: have you looking around in the apearance tab in the settings?
[08:01] <nosrednaekim> tarsonis: what do you want them mapped to?
[08:01] <snellpojke> do you know what happened when i was trying to boot ubuntu yesterday ? i put a link wait
[08:01] <bazhang> DaSkreech: thanks! I got it going--man vista is a mess! wiped that baby off right away.
[08:01] <tarsonis> nosrednaekim, my new Software Volume control I created
[08:01] <DaSkreech> bazhang:  it gets worse as time goes on :)
[08:01] <nosrednaekim> tarsonis: you mean you want it to call a shell command?
[08:01] <tarsonis> nope
[08:01] <bazhang> DaSkreech: you have to use it? eewww!
[08:02] <DaSkreech> bazhang: yep
[08:02] <bazhang> uggh.
[08:02] <uga> DaSkreech: oh nice. Finally somebody completed that description of sudo, with the "why"
[08:02] <Lynoure> sub[t] rnl: yes, and yes. And googled too
[08:02] <bazhang> heya uga
[08:02] <tarsonis> whats this OSD when i press the keys?
[08:02] <uga> hi again bazhang
[08:02] <DaSkreech> uga: youy know you could change it right?
[08:03] <uga> DaSkreech: no, I don't. I thought it was allowed only to ops or so
[08:03] <tarsonis> Can anyone tell me whats that OSD when I use the XF86RaiseVolume and LowerVolume keys on my keyboard?
[08:03] <DaSkreech> uga: Try and make one
[08:03] <DaSkreech> uga: or change one
[08:03] <uga> tarsonis: heh, I just found it too. Dunno... lemme check if I can figure out
[08:04] <DaSkreech> its !factoid is description
[08:04] <uga> DaSkreech: is there a howto? the bot doesn't help
[08:04] <uga> DaSkreech: ah, cheers
[08:04] <DaSkreech> it will be submitted but not changed
[08:04] <tarsonis> uga, highlight me if you'll find out :)
[08:04] <snellpojke> http://www.fuskbugg.se/pub/misc/Ubuntu.JPG !!!!! so if i install xubuntu will i ahve the same problem?
[08:04] <DaSkreech> ubotu will pm you
[08:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about will pm you - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:04] <uga> sure
[08:04] <DaSkreech> join #ubuntu-bots and ask for it to be reviewed
[08:05] <DaSkreech> there you go
[08:05] <ladyofthenight^^> does anybody know if frys sells seasonic power supplies
[08:05] <DaSkreech> tarsonis: Sorry? what are you asking?
[08:06] <uga|away> uhmpf
[08:08] <uga> I lost the backlog
[08:08] <tarsonis> DaSkreech, i'm asking about the program thats making the OSD when I press the Volume Up und Down keys on my keyboard.
[08:08] <uga> anybody can tell who was asking about especial keys?
[08:08] <DaSkreech> snellpojke: Laptop?
[08:08] <uga> a few lines ago
[08:08] <uga> I figured out
[08:08] <tarsonis> uga, I was.
[08:08] <tarsonis> I guess.
[08:08] <uga> ah
[08:09] <snellpojke> DaSkreech
[08:09] <snellpojke> yes
[08:09] <uga> tarsonis: it's kmilo. They revamped the gui it seems
[08:09] <uga> but remains being the same service
[08:09] <DaSkreech> !laptop > snellpojke
[08:09] <tarsonis> But kmilo isn't running?!
[08:09] <tarsonis> tarsonis@iNSANE:~$ ps -A | grep kmilo
[08:09] <tarsonis> Nothing.
[08:09] <snellpojke> DaSkreech ty
[08:09] <DaSkreech> snellpojke: Most likely a power issue you can cheat your way out of it
[08:09] <uga> tarsonis: it's a kde service, under kcontrol->kde components->service manager->kmilo
[08:10] <uga> tarsonis: it's the thing that captures my volume up, mute, etc keys
[08:10] <tarsonis> kmilo is also not installed.
[08:10] <snellpojke> DaSkreech ok :P but how
[08:10] <uga> and shows the OSD
[08:10] <uga> tarsonis: don't you get a gray bar with white chars on it?
[08:10] <uga> tarsonis: on gutsy at least
[08:10] <uga> and volume percentage if voume changed
[08:10] <tarsonis> Yes I get it.
[08:10] <uga> that's kmilo. I stop it, then doesn't show =)
[08:10] <tarsonis> But adept says kmilo is not installed.
[08:11] <tarsonis> Well.
[08:11] <DaSkreech> snellpojke: noacpi I think
[08:11] <tomi> Dr_willis i have installed 'restricted-manager' and after running it says: NVIDIA accelerated graphic card Enabled and In use
[08:11] <tarsonis> It is kmilo howeve.
[08:11] <DaSkreech> that page will help
[08:11] <tarsonis> Though its not installed
[08:11] <tarsonis> Strange.
[08:11] <uga> heh, I checked just in case:;
[08:11] <uga> root@dpcuga:/home/uga# dpkg -S /usr/lib/kde3/kded_kmilod.so
[08:11] <uga> kmilo: /usr/lib/kde3/kded_kmilod.so
[08:11] <tomi> so now what?
[08:11] <tarsonis> Yeah - it was kmilo
[08:11] <tarsonis> Is there a way to configure it?
[08:12] <DaSkreech> anyway to the market!
[08:12] <uga> tarsonis: I belive one could map keys ... there was an X tool that showed each event captured... cant' recall
[08:12] <tarsonis> Thats not the point I guess.
[08:12] <tarsonis> kmilo just changes volume for the master channel
[08:12] <tarsonis> but thats not what i want
[08:12] <tomi> Dr_willis
[08:12] <uga> tarsonis: ah, I see what you mean...
[08:13] <tarsonis> i want to change the channel it modifies
[08:14] <tarsonis> Because my master channel is a very different one
[08:14] <uga> tarsonis: not sure if this may work for you: http://www.mepis.org/node/6195
[08:14] <uga> khotkeys
[08:14] <tarsonis> lets see
[08:15] <tarsonis> I guess i'll do it otherwise.
[08:15] <uga> tarsonis: how about providing a nice patch to kmilo =)
[08:16] <Dr_willis> tomi,  Huh?
[08:16] <tomi> Dr_willis i have installed 'restricted-manager' and after running it says: NVIDIA accelerated graphic card Enabled and In use
[08:17] <Dr_willis> tomi,    grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf              see if that puts out a line like ,..    Driver          "nvidia"
[08:18] <Dr_willis> if so - its installed.. you do need to restart the X server for the stuff to take effect.
[08:18] <tomi> ups :( No such file or directory
[08:18] <Dr_willis> You did a typo then.
[08:19] <Dr_willis> a little cleaner out put if ya use..
[08:19] <Dr_willis> willis@MythBox:~$ grep nvidia  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:19] <Dr_willis>         Driver          "nvidia"
[08:20] <tarsonis> uga, nah...
[08:20] <snellpojke> what is gutsy
[08:20] <uga> tarsonis: the patch shouldn't be complex. just a simple dialog
[08:20] <snellpojke> ?
[08:20] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis, any luck with Mythtv ?
[08:20] <tomi> tomi@myKubuntu:~$ grep nvidia /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:20] <tomi> grep: /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory
[08:20] <sub[t] rnl> snellpojke: gutsy is the 7.10 release of ubuntu
[08:21] <tarsonis> uga, yeah maybe, but coding is not my best skill :p
[08:21] <snellpojke> ok
[08:21] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  got Mythbuntu installed on this system now.
[08:21] <BluesKaj> cool
[08:21] <tarsonis> tombar_, cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep nvidia ?
[08:21] <tarsonis> eh, tomi i mean
[08:21] <snellpojke> cya i will burn and install now
[08:21] <james_xxx> could someone tell me what repo to use to get w32codecs?
[08:21] <sub[t] rnl> gluck!
[08:21] <Dr_willis> james_xxx,  i use the medibuntu repos
[08:22] <Dr_willis> !w32codecs
[08:22] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[08:22] <tomi> tarsonis ?? that command agains says no such file...
[08:22] <Dr_willis> or seveas package
[08:22] <james_xxx> ty all
[08:22] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis, OTA signals or cable or satellite ?
[08:22] <tarsonis> you dont have an xorg.conf
[08:22] <tarsonis> mh
[08:22] <Mr_Sonoma> !quicktime
[08:22] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:22] <sub[t] rnl> Dr_willis: agreed
[08:22] <sub[t] rnl> james_xxx: deb-src http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ feisty free non-free
[08:22] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  just normal cable. :) cant get it to even handle the digigtal cable box.
[08:22] <sub[t] rnl> or follow the links the doc gave ya
[08:22] <tomi> tarsonis can u tell me steb by step how to fix that
[08:23] <tarsonis> tomi, well, i dont know, rerun xorg-config or something
[08:23] <james_xxx> ty sub[t] rnl
[08:23] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. I am watching Digital Cable now. :P G4-CodeMonkeys show... its... weird.
[08:24] <sub[t] rnl> I havn't watched g4 in a while
[08:24] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis, I'm using a composite feed from a sat receiver with TVtime ...gotta use the analog audio feed as a separate audio input ,but it works ok
[08:24] <sub[t] rnl> whats code monkeys about?
[08:24] <Dr_willis> sub[t] rnl,  thats.. hard to describe.. :)
[08:24] <Dr_willis> go to the G4 web site, codemonkeys page i guess. :)
[08:25] <morphinex> ah, mythtv
[08:25] <tomi> tarsonis i run kdesu nvidia-xconfig and now file is there
[08:25] <tarsonis> fine
[08:25] <sub[t] rnl> I watched an episode of bluejacking on g4 using linux
[08:25] <morphinex> so much trouble, but so cool once it works
[08:25] <sub[t] rnl> fun stuff
[08:25] <Dr_willis> at least the comecials on G4 - are things i MIGHT possibley be interested in.
[08:25] <Dr_willis> :) unlike the other channels
[08:25] <sub[t] rnl> hehe
[08:26] <tomi> now what to do ?
[08:26] <Dr_willis> 'this show also availiable as a G4 podcast' :) too bad i dont own a ipod.
[08:26] <tomi> cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep nvidia output is
[08:26] <sub[t] rnl> yeah
[08:26] <tomi> # nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig
[08:26] <tomi> # nvidia-xconfig:  version 1.0  (buildmeister@builder3)  Mon Feb 26 23:38:46 PST 2007
[08:26] <tomi>     Driver         "nvidia"
[08:26] <BluesKaj> oh G4 , those jerks ..took screensavers and call for help off the air to increase their revenue from the game companies ...to me they're nothing but a contstant commercial for games ...We still get Leo Laporte here in Canada on our G4 feed tho.
[08:27] <sub[t] rnl> we're going to start a Dr_willis iPod fund here
[08:27] <Dr_willis> tomi,  its showing Driver nvida.. so Its installed..
[08:27] <sub[t] rnl> leave your donations with the bot
[08:27] <sub[t] rnl> :P
[08:27] <Dr_willis> tomi,  you did restart the X server?   perhaps even reboot...
[08:27] <tomi> i will now. and see the results
[08:27] <morphinex> hey, it sounds like I'm having the same problem as tomi
[08:28] <morphinex> I can't get my damn X working either
[08:28] <morphinex> on my mythbuyntu box
[08:28] <BluesKaj> BBL, time to haul some more shingles up to the roof
[08:28] <sub[t] rnl> BluesKaj: use a loader, easier on your back
[08:29] <morphinex> And I have to tell you, the folks over at ubuntu-mythtv aren't too helpful ;)
[08:29] <morphinex> Honestly, makes me wish I had stayed with fedora for my myth box
[08:30] <sub[t] rnl> morphinex: so whats going on with it?  just crashing?
[08:30] <morphinex> X gives me the your X server isn't configured right error
[08:30] <morphinex> I used nvidia-xconfig (or whatever) and still the same del
[08:31] <sub[t] rnl> try reconfiguring it with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:31] <sub[t] rnl> and if all else fails, post up your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:31] <sub[t] rnl> !paste
[08:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:32] <morphinex> Back when X was working I actually had nother problem too
[08:32] <morphinex> Seemed to be a font problem
[08:33] <Jimmsel> has anyone here ever used the siemens gigaset 108 pc card?
[08:33] <james_xxx> i can't get any of these seveas mirrors to work, hmmm
[08:34] <frank_> Knetworkmanager says: No active device.    Anyone else have this in kubuntu beta?
[08:34] <sub[t] rnl> james_xxx: after adding the repos to your sources.list, don't forget to apt-update
[08:35] <james_xxx> sub[t] rnl: i did the update, but the urls could not be resolved
[08:35] <Hart13> zdar all
[08:35] <james_xxx> i tried using several of the mirrors
[08:36] <tomi> Dr_willis after reboot all i had was a blank screen and i had to delete the xorg.conf file with mc so i can boot
[08:36] <tomi> what is the problem, please help
[08:36] <Dr_willis> tomi,  check that !nvidia page again. it may be you need the older nvidia package/drivers
[08:37] <Dr_willis> I dont have that exact card. so cant tell you much more then that. and to check the forums for issues with that exact card
[08:37] <Dr_willis> You could of just changed the 'Driver 'nvidia'' line back to 'Driver 'nv''
[08:37] <tomi> according to you what driver is for GF4 MX440? can u check that?
[08:38] <Dr_willis> !find nvidia-glx
[08:38] <ubotu> Found: nvidia-glx, nvidia-glx-dev, nvidia-glx-new, nvidia-glx-new-dev, nvidia-glx-legacy (and 1 others)
[08:38] <Dr_willis> I woudl guess the    nvidia-glx-legacy   - is for the older cards
[08:38] <tomi> so how can i now uninstall the one i have and install nvidia-glx-legacy
[08:39] <Dr_willis> apt-get remove nvidia-glx and apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy
[08:39] <Dr_willis> then of course ya need to fix the xorg.conf to use "Driver nvidia" instead of "driver nv"
[08:40] <Dr_willis> I wonder if the !nvidia page mentions that card specificially
[08:40] <Dr_willis> !nvidia
[08:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:40] <Level15> hey
[08:40] <Level15> anyone using the beta?
[08:40] <markit> hi, I've installed kubuntu into a laptop of a friend of mine. Today he has brought it back to me for further installation / setup. I've run "adept" for the second time in my life, but seems different from the first time, I mean, I don't have the "categories" tree with filter for kde or other packages... what could be wrong?
[08:40] <tomi> i think it doesnt
[08:41] <Dr_willis> GeForce4 MX 440 	0x0171 http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/README/appendix-a.html
[08:41] <Dr_willis> uses the legacy driver -- according to the links i followed on that page.
[08:41] <Dr_willis> I thought the 'restricted-driver manager' tool even had 2 check boxs  one for the legacy, one for the newer
[08:42] <markit> oh, I see, adept is different from ... adept!
[08:42] <markit> depends what item I select in the menu.. so strange
[08:42] <ghozala> i need to install  hp printer laserjet 1020
[08:42] <fay_elf> Kubuntu-fi
[08:43] <markit> how can it be?
[08:43] <Dr_willis> markit,  it has a 'user-friendly' gui when used with the add/remove icon :)
[08:43] <uga> ghozala: laserjet printers are mostly postscript printers, if I'm not wrong
[08:43] <morphine> ah, so the problem with X seems to be that the nvidia kernel module is not loading
[08:43] <markit> Dr_willis: exactly! how can I activate it from the "regular" adept?
[08:43] <Dr_willis> markit,  i use the terminal.. :)
[08:44] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx
[08:44] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy
[08:44] <Dr_willis> sudo nvidia-xconfig
[08:44] <tomi> Dr_willis i have just run sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy
[08:44] <Dr_willis> you MIGHT need to    sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules
[08:44] <ghozala> uga some one gave me an url for the driver and it worked but i reinstalled my kubuntu
[08:44] <Dr_willis> tomi,  yes.. thats how the apt system works.
[08:44] <tomi> but now there isnt nvidia-xconfig
[08:45] <morphine> thanks, doc
[08:45] <tomi> and no xorg.conf file  in the X11 dir
[08:45] <tomi> :(
[08:45] <uga> ghozala: download drivers? kubuntu should have all those drivers preinstalled...
[08:45] <markit> Dr_willis: I usually use the terminal (aptitude), wondered why adept was so strange this time, now I know that are 2 different programs, but with the same icon, sigh
[08:45] <uga> ghozala: it's an HP, right?
[08:45] <Dr_willis> tomi,  because you depeted it.. instead of just editing it back.
[08:45] <uga> !printers
[08:45] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[08:45] <Dr_willis> apttitude is the apt stuff with yet another interface. :)
[08:45] <ghozala> but the driver for my  device not included so i have to put it manullay in the list
[08:45] <Dr_willis> appitude install linux-restricted-modules    would be 'about' the same as apt-get install linux-restricted-modules
[08:46] <uga> ghozala: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrintersHp
[08:46] <Dr_willis> markit,  look in the /etc/X11 dir. there may be a backed up xorg.conf file
[08:46] <uga> ghozala: "In Feisty, it works fine. The driver that is included in Ubuntu does NOT work in previous versions. To get this printer to work go to [WWW]  http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/ and follow the instructions there. Then when you add the printer make sure to select the second foo2zjs option (the one that does not say recommended).
[08:46] <ghozala> yeah
[08:46] <uga> ghozala: it's about your printer model
[08:47] <uga> but if you have feisty, it _should_ work without installing any drivers
[08:47] <ghozala> this one thanks
[08:47] <ghozala> i forgot about
[08:47] <uga> ghozala: if you're on gutsy/feisty, you shouldn't need to do anything according to those instructions
[08:47] <fay_elf> I am going to get kubuntu up and running soon, and need to use my nokia with an usb cable for web by edge so for frequent use, is there some modern solution ready on install?
[08:48] <morphine> sigh, same X error after I removed and reinstalled the nvidia driver
[08:48] <Level15> how do i tell adept to use a proxy server for downloads? and what abt the username/password for this proxy server?
[08:49] <fay_elf> Could i just plug the cable and use /tty/acm0 like any supported modem through the networking applets?
[08:50] <Dr_willis> Level15,  synaptic has a 'settings/network/proxy' tab i notice..
[08:50] <Dr_willis> not in kde.. so cant check adept
[08:50] <droach> anyone know how to set up my tv card in ubuntu
[08:50] <Dr_willis> droach,  first - check that the tv tuner card even has any linux support at all. :)
[08:51] <markit> mm I've selected some games, and it gives me an error when I tell to apply modifications... not very good for my friend, sigh
[08:51] <ghozala> uga: how can i get visual style for my kubuntu like desktop cube and vista styles etc...
[08:51] <Level15> yeah, well, i have adept, not synaptics... and i really don't feel like installing a lot of gnome stuff
[08:51] <droach> it should it hauppage/wintv
[08:51] <Dr_willis> markit,  be sure to 'update' the repositories  then try installing them again
[08:51] <Dr_willis> markit,  also at this time - thers a lot of se4rver load/timeouts going on.
[08:52] <Level15> n/m, already started the update w/o proxy... it's just that with the proxy it's soooo much faster...
[08:52] <morphine> will the nv driver use the s-video out on my video card?
[08:52] <markit> Dr_willis: I've found the wireless connection was stopped... mmm does not work much long, sigh
[08:52] <ghozala> how can i Install Software Development (gcc) package
[08:53] <droach> sudo apt-get install gcc
[08:53] <markit> mm does not work either
[08:53] <markit> adept works fine, add/remove does not
[08:53] <BluesKaj> Level15, synaptic doesn't install gnome apps unless you're using gnome desktop
[08:54] <Level15> synaptic uses gnome libs, i think
[08:54] <BluesKaj> synaptic finds hidden apps better than adept
[08:54] <Level15> hidden apps?
[08:55] <ghozala> hay how can i fix this Error: /usr/include/stdio.h is not installed!
[08:56] <BluesKaj> yeah for example growisofs is an iso component requirement for dvd authoring , but adept doesn't show it in the searchbox where as synaptic will
[08:57] <nosrednaekim> heya BluesKaj
[08:57] <BluesKaj> hi nosrednaekim ...what's up ?
[08:57] <ghozala> hay how can i fix this Error: /usr/include/stdio.h is not installed!
[08:57] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: just took the SAT.... 5 hours long!!! i'm beat.
[08:58] <nosrednaekim> ghozala: where/when did you get that error
[08:58] <BluesKaj> SAT for University entrance ?
[08:58] <ghozala> i was installing foo2zjs
[08:58] <fay_elf> So one can/cannot use a usb connected cell phone like any modem through desktop applets without doing scripts,  using ancient wvdial, gprs easy (not) connect etc, ...?
[08:58] <ghozala> for printer
[08:59] <ghozala>       *** Error: /usr/include/stdio.h is not installed!
[08:59] <ghozala>       ***
[08:59] <ghozala>       *** Install Software Development (gcc) package
[08:59] <ghozala>       ***
[08:59] <ghozala> make: *** [all-test]  Error 1
[09:00] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: yeah....
[09:00] <nosrednaekim> all I can say is that the creators better be glad that Bush legalized torture.
[09:01] <frank_> ghozala: you're missing some standard development packages.    Install the build-essential package
[09:01] <nosrednaekim> ghozala: run "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[09:01] <morphinex> So maybe the problem is that the nvidia kernel module is for some reason no loading at boot
[09:02] <morphinex> Can I put nvidia into /etc/modules ?
[09:02] <morphinex> And make it load?
[09:02] <nosrednaekim> morphinex: thats not going to do much good
[09:02] <nosrednaekim> more than likely the versions are mis-matching.
[09:02] <Angelus> hi guyz
[09:03] <morphinex> nosrednaekim: how can I learn if that is the problem?
[09:03] <ghozala> thanks guys
[09:03] <uga> morphinex: what does "modprobe nvidia" say
[09:03] <BluesKaj> yeah, nosrednaekim ,  I took similar tests 1n 1962 ...teachers told me I wasn't intelligent enuff to attend university and succeed as a student ...I think my parents were relieved that they didn't have to pay for my schooling :)
[09:03] <Angelus> i had a via chipset (k8m890 unsuported by X) and kubuntu when it loads the livecd crashes at loading with a screen full of colours, now i bought a video card (GeForce 8400) and same thing , could it be that the video card is too new?
[09:03] <morphinex> uga: FATAL: Error running install command for nvidia
[09:04] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: heh... well I already got a full scholarship to a college, I just have to get in :)
[09:04] <nosrednaekim> Angelus: yep... it is :)
[09:04] <nosrednaekim> Angelus: go get gutsy beta
[09:04] <Angelus> ah
[09:04] <uga> morphinex: okay, that's due to either lrm modules being missing, or lrm commands being missing. Did you uninstall any linux-restricted* pack? or how did you install nvidia binary. From nvidia site?
[09:04] <BluesKaj> right on nosrednaekim ...I hope you get in
[09:04] <ghozala> nosrednaekim: where can i get kubuntu styles , desktop cube and vista styles for kubuntu
[09:04] <james_xxx> nosrednaekim: how is gutsy working for you right now?
[09:04] <Angelus> so probably thats the reason why the livecd crashes at loading (both on the chipset and graphic card) because the computer is too new nosrednaekim ?
[09:05] <uga> morphinex: the error isn't about not being able to load the module, no version mismatch
[09:05] <nosrednaekim> Angelus: no probably not...
[09:05] <nosrednaekim> ghozala: www.kde-look.org
[09:05] <uga> morphinex: what package did you install Nvidia*.run, or ubuntu nvidia package?
[09:05] <BluesKaj> well , time to put the mule back to work ... BB in 15 mins or so
[09:05] <fay_elf> I think that a nifty way to install nvidia-binary is to do a recovery boot
[09:05] <morphinex> uga: no, i installed nvidia-glx-legacy
[09:05] <Angelus> the chipset  is unsupported by Xorg and the graphic card too knew, so whats the reason about that screen of colours if not because they are too knew nosrednaekim ?
[09:06] <Angelus> btw nosrednaekim  only kubuntu and windows vista does this.
[09:06] <morphinex> uga: and I also isntalled linux-restricted-modules
[09:06] <nosrednaekim> james_xxx: really well! Sound quality is better... wireless support is better, but suspend doesn't work with the fglrx drivers
[09:06] <nosrednaekim> Angelus: how new is the computer?
[09:07] <fay_elf> Read the info on nvidia-legacy in the manager, it has a _warning_ :(
[09:07] <james_xxx> nosrednaekim: awesome to hear. i was suddenly having some issues playing videos in feisty (never had a problem before today), could not figure it out, and decided to upgrade right now :-D
[09:07] <Angelus> nosrednaekim, 9months? or less. the chipset doesnt have a driver on Xorg, (only openchrome has it) , and the graphic card i bought it today
[09:07] <uga> morphinex: check /etc/modprobe.d/lrm-video
[09:07] <uga> morphinex: that's what modprobe is trying to load and why it fails
[09:08] <morphinex> ok
[09:08] <uga> morphinex: it tries running /sbin/lrm-video nvidia_legacy $CMDLINE_OPTS
[09:08] <uga> check if that lrm-video command is installed
[09:08] <nosrednaekim> Angelus: do any other linux distros work? like PClinuxOS?
[09:08] <nosrednaekim> james_xxx: yeah... its pretty stable.
[09:08] <Angelus> nosrednaekim, all distros work, only kubutnu and windows vista doesn't
[09:08] <morphinex> uga: yeah, it is there
[09:08] <uga> morphinex: you can do something else... remove all restricted modules package, comment out all lines in lrm-video file, and install nvidia's installer
[09:08] <morphinex> uga: there is some other stuff in there too
[09:08] <uga> yeah
[09:08] <uga> that's the line that corresponds to your driver though
[09:09] <uga> (nvidia-legacy)
[09:09] <nosrednaekim> Angelus: then all I can really suggest is try gutsy, and if that doesn't work, use PClinuxOS :)
[09:09] <bazhang> Angelus: ?
[09:09] <morphinex> install nvidia_legacy /sbin/lrm-video nvidia_legacy $CMDLINE_OPTS
[09:09] <fay_elf> Opensuse is good. But even it needs a console trick to activate the driver.
[09:09] <bazhang> fay_elf: 10.3?
[09:09] <Angelus> i use gentoo nosrednaekim  , but the thingi s i wanted to know if the problem is kubutnu and vista not supporting my hardware or a damaged mother board :S
[09:10] <nosrednaekim> Angelus: doubt it..
[09:10] <morphinex> uga: so you think I should download the driver from nvidia and insgtall it?
[09:10] <nosrednaekim> Angelus: probably just bad hardware detetection
[09:10] <fay_elf> 10.2 did. havent been there for a while
[09:10] <Angelus> oh
[09:10] <Angelus> i see
[09:14] <_StefanS_> anyone know where kwrite is in the kmenu ? I cant find it :)
[09:14] <nosrednaekim> _StefanS_: I don't think its installed by default...
[09:15] <nosrednaekim> kate is in utilities though
[09:15] <_StefanS_> well it is, its just not present in the menu
[09:15] <_StefanS_> I want kwrite not slow kate :D
[09:15] <nosrednaekim> add it then :)
[09:16] <_StefanS_> hmm It seems like my menus have root permissions in my home folder.. thats odd
[09:16] <_StefanS_> cant remember me doing that
[09:18] <uga> morphinex: if you are sure you followed all instructions to make it work with ubuntu packages and still doesn't work, maybe yes
[09:18] <uga> morphinex: I'd suggest you use insmod, instead of modprobe first
[09:18] <uga> if you can find the nvidia.ko module
[09:18] <uga> and try load it
[09:18] <uga> insmod needs the full path of the *.ko module
[09:19] <morphinex> I did locate nvidia.ko and nothing
[09:19] <uga> morphinex: then it's not built... iirc lrm named it nvidia.o
[09:19] <uga> it's missing a linkage, I think
[09:20] <bootsmorris> i have a quuestion
[09:20] <morphinex> uga: did updatedb and still locate didn't find anything
[09:20] <uga> morphinex: not even nvidia.o?
[09:20] <uga> not .ko, .o
[09:20] <nosrednaekim> bootsmorris: ask
[09:21] <morphinex> uga: /var/cache/restricted-manager/nvidia.oldconf
[09:21] <morphinex> that's it
[09:21] <uga> uhm...
[09:21] <bootsmorris> i was updating 7.10 and my laptop shut off b/c of it overheating.  how do i finish the install process
[09:21] <uga> morphinex: uhm... I wonder if you are missing to install some nvidia package...
[09:21] <bootsmorris> i was using adept
[09:21] <uga> morphinex: you could try installing nvidia's site installers then :/
[09:22] <morphinex> I have an nvidiafb.ko file
[09:22] <fay_elf> Just level the hd and reinstall outside
[09:22] <uga> no, that's the framebuffer driver
[09:22] <morphinex> I lso have an nvidia_dr.so
[09:22] <uga> uhm... I don't know that one
[09:22] <nosrednaekim> bootsmorris: run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[09:22] <morphinex> err, nvidia_drv.ko
[09:23] <uga> nto sure... maybe it's for chipset support. I don't have such a file
[09:23] <bootsmorris> no i alreadyt have 7.10 installled i was installing updates
[09:23] <uga> morphinex: that may be the one? not sure
[09:23] <morphinex> ok, I'll try it
[09:23] <nosrednaekim> bootsmorris: oh... then just open adept and restart....
[09:24] <uga> morphinex: use insmod /../../...../nvidida_drv.ko. As modprobe will fail otherwise
[09:24] <bootsmorris> restart what
[09:24] <bootsmorris> ??
[09:24] <nosrednaekim> bootsmorris: the update
[09:24] <bootsmorris> ok
[09:25] <morphinex> uga: the file is it /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so
[09:25] <frank_> a
[09:25] <morphinex> does that sound more or less right?
[09:25] <uga> morphinex: no, that's not a kernel module =)
[09:25] <uga> you said .ko and that confused me
[09:25] <Level15> ok, so how do i tell upgrade-manager to use a proxy?
[09:25] <Level15> or apt
[09:26] <bootsmorris> ok
[09:26] <morphinex> uga: sorry, my bad ;)
[09:26] <morphinex> I DO have nvidia-agp.ko
[09:26] <morphinex> I'm sure that one is a ko
[09:27] <uga> I don't think that's the gfx card driver
[09:27] <uga> morphinex: testing wont' harm though ;)
[09:27] <nosrednaekim> nvidia-agp is something for the nv driver
[09:27] <morphinex> alright
[09:28] <morphinex> I could avoid this whole thing if the nv driver supported s-video out... does it?
[09:28] <bootsmorris> how do i resume the last set of updates that i installed
[09:28] <uga> morphinex: did you really install nvidia-glx-legacy ?
[09:28] <morphinex> uga: i really did
[09:28] <frank_> morphinex: nope no tvout with nv
[09:28] <bazhang> wow
[09:29] <uga> morphinex: a sec, phone
[09:29] <morphinex> uga: nvidia-glx-legacy is already the newest version.
[09:30] <uga> morphinex: back from phone
[09:31] <uga> morphinex: you can check what the package installed, by doing: dpkg -L nvidia-glx-legacy
[09:31] <uga> that list should include the driver, in theory (among lots of other stuff)
[09:32] <morphinex> uga: honestly, I see no .ko file in the list
[09:32] <uga> no nvidia.o, as I said?
[09:32] <uga> or nvidia_legacy.o
[09:32] <rene> Need some help with kismet
[09:32] <morphinex> Let me copy and paste
[09:32] <nosrednaekim> uga: isn't that included in the kernel restricted drivers package?
[09:33] <uga> nosrednaekim: NVIDIA binary 'legacy' kernel module source
[09:33] <Doctor_Nick> a mood house?
[09:33] <uga> nosrednaekim: that's the description of the glx package
[09:33] <nosrednaekim> uga: source?
[09:33] <uga> so I'm not sure
[09:33] <nosrednaekim> oh.. hmm
[09:33] <uga> binary... source? =)
[09:33] <morphinex> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39796/
[09:34] <uga> right, it's not there
[09:34] <morphinex> I wonder how this happened
[09:35] <uga> morphinex: what I don't know is what package usually provides the nvidia.kol
[09:35] <uga> ko
[09:35] <DaSkreech> Well it all began trillions of years ago.....
[09:35] <bazhang> hehe
[09:35] <uga> is there a .deb package search?
[09:35] <savetheWorld> DaSkreech: Tell us a story Daddy!
[09:35] <bazhang> more like 6000
[09:35] <uga> ie, file search
[09:35] <DaSkreech> Gather around children
[09:35] <BluesKaj> once upon a time in the west
[09:35] <minisrule192> hi
[09:36] <DaSkreech> Once upon a time a long long time ago there was one who held the source code for all and gave it to none
[09:36] <DaSkreech> Yes yes it's true
[09:36] <morphinex> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22/+bug/148943
[09:36] <minisrule192> Two users walked into a bar, /quit and /exit... /exit got bored and walked out, who was left?
[09:36] <morphinex> That is my bug, I think
[09:36] <uga> morphinex: in theory... linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-12-generic
[09:36] <uga> morphinex: replace the kernel number with your uname -r
[09:36] <bazhang> !bug#1
[09:36] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[09:36] <DaSkreech> minisrule192: That's mean
[09:36] <uga> morphinex: can you check dpkg -L on that linux-restricted-modules package?
[09:36] <BluesKaj> right minisrule192 ..wonder who will
[09:36] <minisrule192> lol
[09:37] <BluesKaj> just hit the space bar first
[09:37] <Beyer> BluesKaj: What was it again, the mp3player thing.. Storage Media?
[09:38] <morphinex> uga
[09:38] <morphinex> uga: no luckl
[09:38] <morphinex> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39798/
[09:38] <Beyer> Sorry for leaving without saying anything.. :D
[09:38] <BluesKaj> yeah  Beyer
[09:38] <uga> damn
[09:38] <DaSkreech> stdin: why the ban?
[09:38] <uga> morphinex: lemme install the damn packages, and I'll let you know (after that I'll remove them back ;))
[09:38] <BluesKaj> ok, time to turn into a mule again for a few mins ...only 8 bundles to go
[09:39] <stdin> DaSkreech: because he's doing that in multiple channels trying to get people to type "/quit"
[09:39] <jpatrick> DaSkreech: top secret
[09:39] <tommymann> I'm working on a feisty kubuntu and we can't get wired connection, what's worse is when it's plugged in the internet shuts down
[09:39] <tommymann> something bad wrong is going on
[09:39] <uga> morphinex: uh, that's not linux-restricted-modules whole pack. or else it's broken
[09:39] <uga> it can't contain just a changelog
[09:39] <uga> it's a huge pack
[09:39] <morphinex> uga: yeah, I'm getting the feeling that something is seriously broken
[09:39] <DaSkreech> maybe it's a whole lot of changelog?
[09:40] <bazhang> tommymann: the internet shuts down?
[09:40] <tommymann> it's a fresh install and it does it from the livecd
[09:40] <tommymann> yeah, like our home network
[09:40] <tommymann> it kicks me off too
[09:40] <tommymann> she doesn't just not get internet
[09:40] <tommymann> I don't get internet when she's plugged in
[09:40] <tommymann> it's really strange
[09:40] <BluesKaj> same host
[09:41] <tommymann> yeah
[09:41] <BluesKaj> BBL
[09:41] <DaSkreech> Voting?
[09:41] <bazhang> tommymann: are you using knetworkmanager?
[09:42] <BluesKaj> hauling shingles for my roof DaSkreech
[09:42] <morphinex> uga: heh, here we go
[09:42] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Ha ha Go man go
[09:42] <morphinex> uga: some kind of dependency loop
[09:42] <Beyer> BluesKaj: The mp3player gets this "connected" pic on the screen, now it doesn't
[09:42] <stdin> uga: linux-restricted-modules-generic = meta-package
[09:42] <ginoman> oh well, no one here reads animorphs appearantly
[09:42] <Beyer> With my other comp (has windows) it does as soon as the computer is supporting it.
[09:43] <bazhang> tommymann: you still there?
[09:43] <BluesKaj> we don't have Mule politics in Canada , justr stubborn animals by a different name
[09:43] <morphinex> linux-restricted-modules-generic: Depends: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-13-generic but it is not installble
[09:43] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: A's?
[09:43] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[09:44] <morphinex> uga: I'm thinking that maybe I'll just use the nvidia-provided thing
[09:44] <tommymann> yeah sorry got distracted
[09:44] <uga> weird
[09:44] <uga> I just installed and it's there... BUT
[09:44] <uga> uga@dpcuga:~$ dpkg -S /lib/modules/2.6.22-12-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko
[09:44] <uga> dpkg: /lib/modules/2.6.22-12-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko not found.
[09:44] <uga> lol
[09:44] <tommymann> bazhang: yeah we're using knetworkmanager
[09:44] <bazhang> tommymann: do you use knetworkmanager?
[09:44] <uga> >   linux-restricted-modules linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-13-generic linux-restricted-modules-common linux-restricted-modules-generic
[09:44] <uga> >   nvidia-kernel-common
[09:45] <bazhang> tommymann: does it see your network?
[09:45] <uga> those are the packs that I just got installed by dependancies
[09:45] <tommymann> nope
[09:45] <morphinex> hmm
[09:45] <tommymann> it's greyed out
[09:45] <acey> Can someone help me get rid of GRUB so I can install a new slave hd?
[09:45] <tommymann> I've been to two county fairs and three goat shows and I've never seen any shit like it
[09:45] <acey> it keeps giving me error 5 when i put in the new hd and swap it out for this one im using
[09:45] <DaSkreech> !grub | acey
[09:45] <ubotu> acey: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:45] <stdin> !language
[09:45] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:45] <bazhang> does knetworkmanager require administration mode? I forget.
[09:46] <tommymann> no
[09:46] <tommymann> only to configure
[09:46] <acey> No I mean I like want to keep GRUB, but I want to install kubuntu to a new secondary hd
[09:46] <morphinex> uga: I can't install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-13-generic
[09:46] <morphinex> Says it has no installation candidate
[09:46] <acey> but when I pull out my second hd it gives me error 5
[09:46] <uga> morphinex: you should have one for your kernel version. This is gutsy
[09:46] <bazhang> where is MS-SUSE?
[09:47] <JiriN> acey: grub-install /path/to/seondhdd
[09:47] <morphinex> uga: Mine is gutsy too :)
[09:47] <acey> ....
[09:47] <acey> srry
[09:47] <acey> ok let me put it this way
[09:47] <acey> I have 2 hd
[09:47] <acey> one has windows
[09:47] <DaSkreech> bazhang: Novell?
[09:47] <acey> one has kubuntu
[09:47] <bazhang> tommymann: you need to configure it...
[09:47] <acey> I want to get rid of my second one with kubuntu on it
[09:47] <acey> and oput a new bigger second one in
[09:47] <DaSkreech> acey: Right
[09:47] <tommymann> bazhang: I tried, no dice. Just enable and disable
[09:47] <acey> but when i put the new one in
[09:47] <DaSkreech> and copy over the install ?
[09:48] <bazhang> DaSkreech: he was in #Suse, but got kicked out for some reason.
[09:48] <acey> GRUB gives me error 5 on boot
[09:48] <tommymann> in the configurator the ethernet port shows up
[09:48] <JiriN> acey: grub-install /path/to/seondhdd
[09:48] <bazhang> tommymann: this is in feisty?
[09:48] <Doctor_Nick> is there a default shortcut key for bringing up the process manager or can you congigure one?
[09:48] <Doctor_Nick> configure
[09:48] <tommymann> bazhang: yeah
[09:48] <stdin> morphinex: you may just have to wait a while, or use another mirror for the package to appear
[09:48] <acey> but the hd I want to install it to isn't in my computer yet becuase I can't even boot my computer with it in
[09:49] <bazhang> tommymann: can you access it from another computer?
[09:49] <Beyer> So.. I have a creative zen vision m, 30gb. The problem is that the linux doesn't detect it. Any ideas?
[09:49] <morphinex> uga: ok, removing linux-restricted-modules-common is removing  whole bunch of stuff
[09:49] <acey> I have to have both my 1st and 2nd hd's in with both winxp and kubuntu on each just to boot my computer up
[09:49] <acey> so i can select an os
[09:49] <DaSkreech> acey: use the Live CD
[09:55] <tommymann> bazhang: can I access what? The internet. I can access it with all three other computers as long as the kub feisty isn't plugged in
[09:55] <morphinex> including nvidia-glx-legacy
[09:55] <acey> Will I still be able to boot into windows xp after im done?
[09:55] <acey> like will it be exactly as it is now?
[09:55] <acey> but with my new hd
[09:55] <DaSkreech> tommymann: sounds like you are running dhcp on the feisty box
[09:55] <bazhang> tommymann: does your isp limit the number of computers that can connect to your service? some do.
[09:55] <DaSkreech> acey: Yes please read the url ubotu sent you
[09:55] <morphinex> oh boy, now it wants to install kernel version 2.6.22-12
[09:55] <acey> kk ill just install it and hope it works then
[09:55] <acey> thanks
[09:55] <tommymann> no, plus I have all the other computers except this box and it shut down
[09:55] <tommymann> I am running dhcp on the feisty since that's the default
[09:55] <morphinex> stdin: you might be right, I may have to wait until gutsy final comes out to use this machine as a mythtv frontend
[09:55] <rathel> How do I go through folders and subfolder looking for specific files and copy them? I know how to remove find . -name name -print0 | xargs -0 rm How would you copy? Thanks.
[09:55] <bazhang> tommymann: like DaSkreech said, you may have a static address, or is it dynamic (ie changes every time)?
[09:55] <tommymann> dynamic, I believe
[09:55] <bazhang> tommymann: are you sure?
[09:55] <shadowhywind> Hay all, I was wondering If there was a issue with knetworkmanager from the last update?
[09:55] <tommymann> bazhang: not sure
[09:55] <nosrednaekim> shadowhywind: gutsy for fiesty?
[09:55] <tommymann> bazhang: how do I check for certain
[09:55] <shadowhywind> I believe fiesty *how can i double check?*
[09:55] <DaSkreech> nosrednaekim: I hope that was or feisty
[09:55] <shadowhywind> i am running 7.04 which i believe is fiesty correct?
[09:55] <nosrednaekim> DaSkreech: ERR!
[09:55] <bazhang> yes
[09:55] <stdin> morphinex: maybe, but I was referring the package it's looking for "linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-13-generic"
[09:55] <morphinex> stdin: well, I can't get X working until I can get that package
[09:55] <DaSkreech> Whee
[09:55] <stdin> morphinex: sometimes it takes a while for all the bits to land
[09:55] <shadowhywind> its like i did the kde updates *which was last week or two weeks ago* and i have noticed that ever since then, my knetworkmanager hasn't been detecting any wireless networks, nor tells me if i am connected by wireless or ethernet
[09:56] <morphinex> stdin: the good news.... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/149707
[09:56] <tommymann> shadowhywind: Our problems are similar
[09:57] <shadowhywind> so is this a bug caused from the last update?
[09:57] <tommymann> possibly; mine was from a fresh disk
[09:57] <nosrednaekim> shadowhywind: could be
[09:57] <shadowhywind> oh
[09:57] <tommymann> from yesterday
[09:57] <tommymann> so it probably has the update in question
[09:58] <DaSkreech> >_<
[09:59] <shadowhywind> guess we just have to wait till the next upgrade
[09:59] <shadowhywind> also roughly speaking, when is gusty supposed to be released
[09:59] <usser> shadowhywind: oct 15th
[09:59] <BluesKaj> tommymann, what router or gateway are you using ?
[09:59] <bazhang> 10/18
[09:59] <usser> well 18th
[09:59] <ghozala_> HELP!!!! i ve got compiz-fusion and i installed it already but when i run compiz-fusin icon it doesnt open....can anybody help me with this plz
[09:59] <shadowhywind> oh thats not to bad
[10:00] <nosrednaekim> ghozala_: is that the exact command you run?
[10:00] <usser> ghozala_: try alt+f2 type in compiz --replace
[10:00] <tommymann> BluesKaj: the 2wire the DSL people gave us
[10:00] <shadowhywind> guess I will just wait till the 18th and do that update, is gusty being released with kde 4?
[10:01] <nosrednaekim> shadowhywind: it has it, but its not default
[10:01] <ghozala_> usser not working
[10:01] <BluesKaj> 2wires are difficult to configure , even on windows
[10:01] <ghozala_> and i open it from the menu not by a command and it loads and never opens
[10:01] <shadowhywind> fun, I tried installing the beta version, and it was seriously messed up. everytime i tried to opena program it opened a different one
[10:02] <usser> ghozala_: open up the terminal type compiz --replace and pastebin the output
[10:03] <acey> Can anyone tell me how to install grub to my master hd if it is already installed to my slave hd?
[10:03] <acey> so i can boot my computer with just the master hd in?
[10:04] <nosrednaekim> acey: sure, "sudo grub-install /dev/hda"
[10:04] <acey> will that change anything on the slave hd?
[10:04] <acey> like, if i did that will it still boot with both hds in?
[10:04] <nosrednaekim> acey: shouldn't.... as long as what you want to boot is on the master
[10:04] <usser> acey: that is if your master is hda
[10:04] <nosrednaekim> usser: isn't that ALWAYS the case?
[10:04] <nosrednaekim> I guess it could be hdc..
[10:05] <usser> nosrednaekim: well theres sda
[10:05] <acey> kk thanks, im just trying to use a new hd i got as slave so yea
[10:05] <usser> nosrednaekim: on most systems
[10:05] <acey> oo how do i tell what the master is? its primary master
[10:05] <nosrednaekim> usser: that would be hda then
[10:05] <acey> im prety sure its hda tho
[10:05] <acey> kk thanks
[10:05] <nosrednaekim> *acey
[10:06] <usser> nosrednaekim: huh?
[10:06] <usser> nosrednaekim: i dont even have hda in /dev
[10:06] <acey> wait, if im installing it on the same hd as winxp, will that affect winxp if I ever wanted it normal again without linux at all?
[10:06] <usser> acey: yes
[10:06] <nosrednaekim> usser: sorry, wrong SN
[10:06] <acey> oo it will affect it?
[10:06] <usser> acey: it will overwrite xps boot loader
[10:06] <acey> oooo....
[10:06] <acey> maybe i shouldnt do that then lol
[10:07] <acey> how can I use xps boot loader then again and get rid of grub?
[10:07] <usser> acey: grub can boot xp too
[10:07] <acey> i know im just trying to install a new hd and I didn't want anything to happen to my primary hd that isn't necassary
[10:07] <usser> acey: boot from windows cd go to recovery console and issue fixmbr command
[10:07] <nosrednaekim> acey: yeah, you can do that from a windows recovery/install disc
[10:08] <acey> k so just sue the recovery disc that came with my computer and type fixmbr?
[10:08] <acey> use*
[10:08] <nosrednaekim> acey: not sure how windows does it... but that sounds right... :)
[10:08] <usser> acey: yes
[10:08] <acey> k ill search google for the exact command but thanks usser and nos for the help
[10:08] <acey> ill let yah know how it goes
[10:09] <usser> acey: this was the exact command lol
[10:09] <DaSkreech> it's fixboot for Windows XP
[10:09] <usser> fixmbr
[10:09] <acey> oo ok
[10:09] <usser> and sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[10:09] <acey> o wait, then if i use fixmbr will I have to install grub?
[10:09] <acey> or will it go back to normal?
[10:09] <acey> and won't dual boot
[10:10] <usser> acey: when u do fixmbr no dual boot no grub just winxp boot loader
[10:10] <acey> oo thats what I was wanting, thanks man :)
[10:10] <usser> acey: when u do grub dual boot
[10:10] <DaSkreech> acey: Anything with windows kills all other OS
[10:10] <DaSkreech> Windows always assumes the only thing you want on it is windows
[10:10] <rowr> test
[10:10] <DaSkreech> fail
[10:10] <acey> lol k thanks
[10:10] <usser> DaSkreech: actually not true windows loader can load other os's too not just windows
[10:11] <DaSkreech> usser: I said it  assumes
[10:11] <BluesKaj> always better to install windows first, then there's only a small edit in grub to fix the bootloader
[10:11] <nosrednaekim> rowr: it works
[10:11] <DaSkreech> I didn't say it's not possible
[10:11] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: its already installed
[10:11] <usser> DaSkreech: o ok
[10:11] <BluesKaj> right
[10:11] <bazhang> BluesKaj: always better to install everything first--my good neighbor Kubuntu.
[10:12] <bazhang> best dual boot distro around
[10:12] <BluesKaj> windows first bazhang
[10:12] <DaSkreech> bazhang: Thats a powerful statement. How did you come to that?
[10:12] <nosrednaekim> heh.... all distros are about equal with dual booting now... its just grub.
[10:12] <bazhang> DaSkreech: powerful as in bad?
[10:13] <nosrednaekim> as in "sweeping"
[10:13] <BluesKaj> ok , back to the mule job ...4 more bundles and i'm done for today
[10:13] <nosrednaekim> as in "doesn't work"
[10:13] <nosrednaekim> !doesn'twork
[10:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about doesn'twork - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:13] <DaSkreech> bazhang: as in it sounds like you did research. can you back that up
[10:13] <nosrednaekim> !doesn't work
[10:13] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[10:13] <DaSkreech> Since .. you know it's using the same software as all the rest of them
[10:13] <bazhang> DaSkreech: ok
[10:13] <morphinex> uga: so, it turns out that the fix may be as simple as... apt-get update
[10:14] <morphinex> uga: because there was a known bug or something
[10:14] <morphinex> uga: thanks for you help
[10:15] <bazhang> DaSkreech: I did a lot of research on it, and Ubuntu, Kubuntu is by far the best for using as a second install--better than Mandriva/PCLOS; way better than Suse, and tons better than Fedora--Wolvix is another that is top of the class in that regard; but nothing comes even remotely close to Ubuntu/Kubuntu.
[10:18] <deviance> Where would adepts icon be located?
[10:18] <bazhang> sorry for the really long off-topic
[10:19] <deviance> !adeptfix
[10:19] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[10:19] <DaSkreech> deviance: prob /usr/share/icons or somesuch
[10:19] <bazhang> isn't that dpkg --configure -a --force? just kidding.
[10:19] <DaSkreech> ! Woah !
[10:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about woah ! - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:20] <bazhang> hahaha
[10:20] <ffixxx> hi is there an easy way to enable compiz(-fusion) in kubuntu gutsy?
[10:20] <stdin> ffixxx: gutsy help in #ubuntu+1 like the topic says
[10:21] <bazhang> and yes there is.
[10:21] <bazhang> hi Beyer!
[10:21] <Beyer> Hii :)
[10:23] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: hey... do you know what wekk means?
[10:24] <Beyer> Argh! I'm out of ideas.
[10:24] <DaSkreech> stdin: The topic says that?
[10:24] <DaSkreech> oh wait it does :)
[10:25] <DaSkreech> I read #ubuntu-effects ... balh =P
[10:25] <stdin> DaSkreech: yeah, because I put it there ;)
[10:25] <Beyer> I've disabled the integrated soundcard, installed codecs.. done everything you've said and I've found with google. The sounds wont still work with flashplayer :(
[10:25] <DaSkreech> Beyer: 64bit ?
[10:25] <Beyer> Only with Totem Movie Player
[10:25] <Beyer> Nope
[10:26] <Beyer> Hmm, maybe I just didn't install the java right? Or could it be the reason
[10:27] <Beyer> It
[10:27] <Beyer> Damn enter! :D It's really frustrating to be without youtube like... 3weeks now. Everyone gives urls and you can watch them only without sound. It sucks
[10:28] <DaSkreech> !flash
[10:28] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[10:29] <phaat> yeah, but gnash doesn't work properly.
[10:29] <DaSkreech> No I remember there was a page with flash sound problems and how to fix them
[10:29] <ghozala> HELP!!!!!!!!!! i ve installed copmiz-fusion and every time i run it this error appears(This problem report does not apply to a packaged program. (/usr/bin/fusion-icon)) and the application never open
[10:30] <DaSkreech> ghozala: #ubuntu-effects
[10:32] <deviance> !compiz-fusion
[10:32] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:33] <ichor_> I would upgrade, all the way to Feisty. Unfortunately, in my system "gksu" is a command not found. Support pages stress that the alternative way to upgrade  using apt-get  is Not Recommended. They probably know what they're talking about. Are there other alternatives? Does anyone have a suggestion? How do I update without gksu? Thank You!
[10:33] <jamili> PC (Intel x86) desktop CD
[10:33] <jamili> should dl that one if i'm going to use just for normal use
[10:34] <jamili> like playing? idk
[10:35] <DaSkreech> !kdesu  ichor_
[10:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdesu  ichor_ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:35] <DaSkreech> !kdesu | ichor_
[10:35] <ubotu> ichor_: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[10:35] <bazhang> stdin: my bad. just a suggested package. sorry.
[10:35] <nosrednaekim> jamili: yeah.. that should be fine
[10:36] <deviance> Can someone remind me how I check to see if Im running 32 or 64 bit
[10:37] <deviance> And how can I see how much of my hard drive is used and how much is empty
[10:37] <stdin> deviance: "dpkg --print-architecture" should show you
[10:37] <Beyer> In console it has  "^X Exit"
[10:37] <stdin> deviance: and "df -h"
[10:37] <Beyer> So, how can I exit? It does not make any sense
[10:37] <jhutchins> deviance: df -h
[10:38] <deviance> stdin: I'm running i386. I'm about to burn an iso thats i686 what does this mean?
[10:38] <stdin> Beyer: ^ = Ctrl
[10:38] <jhutchins> !kdesu | ichor_
[10:38] <ubotu> ichor_: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[10:39] <jamili> nosrednaekim: ok
[10:39] <deviance> And df -h worked well :D
[10:39] <stdin> deviance: i386 is only the debian package architecture, it would be "amd64" if it was 64bit
[10:39] <deviance> Okay, Im about to burn a i686 Fedora ISO is this 32 bit?
[10:39] <stdin> deviance: yep
[10:39] <deviance> :D Thank you very much
[10:40] <deviance> Once again saved my live stdin :D
[10:40] <ichor_> So, do I just substitute "gksu" for "kdesu"?  That is, should I try "kdesu "update-manager -C""?
[10:40] <deviance> Maybe a tad meoldramatic :P
[10:40] <Beyer> DaSkreech: Did it, wont help anything.
[10:40] <stdin> deviance: maybe ;)
[10:41] <DaSkreech> Beyer: Hit the forums?
[10:41] <robinson> how do i set KnetworkManager to connect to a certain wireless AP by default? I have two in my home, and i want to set the secure connection by default
[10:42] <nosrednaekim> robinson: make the other one untrusted..
[10:43] <robinson> thanks
[10:53] <ichor_> Using kdesu "update-manager -c" I seem to able to update some applications. What I wish to do is to update the kernel. Thank you.
[11:00] <uga> ichor_: no idea what update-manager is, sorry
[11:00] <uga> ichor_: do you mean adept_manager
[11:00] <DaSkreech> adept_updater
[11:01] <fdoving> ichor_: does it say 'Your system is up-to-date' ?
[11:03] <lapinlam> hello
[11:04] <bazhang> hi!
[11:04] <bcherry> any kubuntu users here ever have problems with apps just not starting?
[11:04] <uga> kaixo!
[11:04] <ichor_> What I meant is that I want to update the "Ubuntu operating system" to Feisty. Does it matter that I am (mostly) using KDE? Isn't the underlying operating system the same whether I use Gnome or KDE on top of it?
[11:04] <fdoving> !upgrade | ichor_
[11:04] <ubotu> ichor_: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[11:04] <uga> bcherry: that's strange. Running the application from command line says something?
[11:04] <mula> p
[11:04] <bcherry> ichor_: yes you are correct
[11:05] <bcherry> uga: yeah everything seems fine
[11:05] <bcherry> konversation is the main thing that just wouldn't ever load
[11:05] <bcherry> it would leave a process running, but never come u
[11:05] <bcherry> vmware is doing the same thing right now
[11:06] <bcherry> fresh install btw (read: two days old)
[11:06] <bcherry> but im viewing it as an oppurtunity to try something new
[11:06] <ichor_> Hi fdovig. What is it that you mean would say that my system is up-to-date?
[11:06] <Eddie> Hello, Firefox crash on print preview. Any fix?
[11:06] <bcherry> i think im gonna dump kubuntu and go opensuse 10.3 until gutsy
[11:06] <bcherry> then come home to my loved one (kubuntu)
[11:06] <Dr_willis> for a whole 2 weeks? :)
[11:06] <bcherry> haha yeah
[11:07] <fdoving> ichor_: no, just ignore that, i didn't understand what you wanted until you said you wanted a full upgrade to feisty. Have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for the details on upgrading.
[11:07] <Dr_willis> using gutsy right now. :)
[11:07] <bcherry> it gave me troubles on my laptop : (
[11:07] <Dr_willis> bcherry,  thats the nature of Beta software
[11:07] <Dr_willis> bcherry,  been about 50+mb of updated a day here over the last week
[11:08] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1
[11:08] <bcherry> Dr_willis: i know, its just the first beta ubuntu that i dumped since breezy
[11:08] <bcherry> i've been consistently upgrading to +1 aroudn the first beta
[11:08] <bcherry> but gutsy didnt offer anything for me
[11:10] <prak> is it true that gutsy is coming out on oct 18?
[11:11] <Dr_willis> prak,  ive not heard of any delays.. so i think its still true
[11:11] <Dr_willis> Not to say they couldent do a  delay...
[11:12] <prak> are you using the beta version?
[11:12] <prak> Dr_willis?
[11:12] <Dr_willis> yes i am prak
[11:13] <Eddie> I guess that no can answer my question
[11:13] <Dr_willis> Eddie,  not seen that happen.. so dont know of any fix. check the forums?
[11:14] <Eddie> OK, Thanks.
[11:14] <VSpike> Is there any way to use apport or any similar tool to trap and report crashes from KDE apps?
[11:15] <stdin> VSpike: I would say ask in -devel, but it's a weekend so you'll get no joy
[11:16] <VSpike> are you saying linux users have lives? what is the world coming to
[11:16] <stdin> !weekend
[11:16] <ubotu> It's a weekend.  Often on weekends, the paid developers, and a lot of the community, may not be around to answer your question.  Please be patient, wait longer than you normally would, or try again during the working week.
[11:17] <VSpike> it's wierd, because I've seen apport reports for kde apps on launchpad
[11:17] <VSpike> so it must be possible somehow
[11:17] <bazhang> stdin: thanks. later.
[11:17] <stdin> :)
[11:18] <poison--> X crashes on me saying it cant find X11/fonts
[11:18] <poison--> any ideas guys?
[11:18] <poison--> wont boot to X anymore
[11:18] <poison--> :(
[11:19] <poison--> !x
[11:19] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:19] <ichor_> I have had a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes. They tell me to use gksu "update-manager -c". Unfortunately, in my system, "gksu" is a command not found. Support pages stress that the alternative way to upgrade  using apt-get  is Not Recommended. They probably know what they're talking about. I probably need to use some alternative method. Some of you have recommended using "kdesu". The command kdesu
[11:19] <ichor_> "update-manager -c" does not update my system, however, merely some applications. The information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes does not explain how to upgrade the operating system from within KDE.
[11:19] <Kachna> ichor_: use kdesu then
[11:20] <ichor_> OK.  How?
[11:20] <Kachna> or just in console type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" if u wanna update :-)
[11:21] <ichor_> Just "kdesu" and nothing more?
[11:21] <Kachna> but while using KDE && root applications,just replace gksu by kdesu :-)
[11:21] <Kachna> well the easiest way is typing kdesu adept_manager
[11:22] <atlfalcons866> when is gusty gibbon being released
[11:22] <stdin> !gutsy
[11:22] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[11:22] <stdin> follow the link
[11:22] <poison--> stdin, any ideas on my issue?
[11:22] <stdin> poison--: never seen that problem
[11:23] <patrux> .list
[11:23] <ichor_> Kachna: Should I use -c, as when I use "update-manager"?
[11:23] <poison--> :(
[11:24] <stdin> have you tried reconfiguring X?
[11:24] <poison--> dpkg reconfigure?
[11:24] <poison--> yes
[11:24] <Kachna> ichor_: nope U don't need that :-)
[11:24] <poison--> i even tried sumtin i found in a forum, but no luck
[11:25] <ichor_> Thanks!
[11:25] <stdin> have you made sure all the packages are installed? "sudo aptitude install ubuntu-minimal ubuntu-standard kubuntu-desktop"
[11:26] <poison--> will try that
[11:26] <poison--> or else i have to reinstall and download all the updates again
[11:27] <DaSkreech> !info apport-qt
[11:27] <ubotu> apport-qt: Qt4 frontend for the apport crash report system. In component main, is optional. Version 0.76.1 (feisty), package size 35 kB, installed size 88 kB
[11:27] <weswh-> what do you guys recommend for playing/subscribing to podcasts? I don't know if Amarok does that or not - but I would ideally like to keep away from that since I use it for all of my music - and have an app specifically for Podcasts. Similar to a newsreader...anything out there?
[11:28] <DaSkreech> VSpike: ^^^
[11:28] <DaSkreech> weswh-: Amarok does do it. It can stream download or auto download if you like
[11:29] <weswh-> know of anything else?
[11:30] <DaSkreech> weswh-: not off the top of my head. Amarok worked nicely for me so  I just left it what are you looking for?
[11:30] <DaSkreech> A standalone podcast app?
[11:30] <VSpike> DaSkreech: yeah, I've used that in kde, but it doesn't help because it's only the front end to send apport crash logs to launchpad - it doesn't make crashing kde apps generate apport data
[11:30] <niyado> some one can give me the ubuntu-es channel?
[11:31] <DaSkreech> VSpike: Ah Yeah there is probably some Debug package
[11:31] <DaSkreech> !es
[11:31] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:31] <niyado> thx
[11:31] <ichor_> Kachna: Tried your suggestion: "adept_manager not found".
[11:31] <VSpike> DaSkreech: because you don't get the apport notification in kde, you have to manually run /usr/share/apport/apport-qt periodically
[11:31] <weswh-> yeah basically...I am not really into it - I just want to check some out. So ideally if I had a separate app, just keep it in its own world. So it doesn't mess up my playlists etc.
[11:31] <weswh-> maybe Amarok has its own tab for podcasts though
[11:31] <DaSkreech> try kitty
[11:31] <DaSkreech> !info kitty
[11:31] <ubotu> kitty: a Qt/KDE based RSS podcast and video aggregator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.2-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 246 kB, installed size 648 kB
[11:31] <Kachna> ichor_: mmm then u need a console
[11:32] <ichor_> I'm working in a console
[11:32] <DaSkreech> !info podracer
[11:32] <ubotu> podracer: podcast aggregator/downloader. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4-1 (feisty), package size 12 kB, installed size 96 kB
[11:32] <DaSkreech> weswh-: it does
[11:32] <Kachna> just open one and type sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install adept
[11:32] <yeniklasorr> Can you tell me a good and fast package server ?
[11:33] <Dr_willis> yeniklasorr,  they are all taking a beating today (well for the last week)
[11:33] <Kachna> ah k,was talking about gksu so i thought u use gui :-)
[11:33] <fdoving> yeniklasorr: se.archive.ubuntu.com is usually fast from europe atleast.
[11:34] <yeniklasorr> Dr_willis : What beating
[11:34] <yeniklasorr> fdoving : looking
[11:34] <Dr_willis> been ooodles of updates for gutsy lately.
[11:36] <VSpike> man, there's some sucky software in this world
[11:38] <atlfalcons866> !gutsy
[11:38] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[11:40] <hirschi> hi, i need some help best in german language
[11:40] <hirschi> can somebody help me?
[11:40] <ichor_> Was wollen sie dann, Hirschi?
[11:41] <hirschi> ich habe probleme mit dem browser konquer, der will nicht ins web
[11:41] <hirschi> der chat hier funktioniert, pingen kann ich auch ueberall hin
[11:41] <hirschi> was kann das sein?
[11:42] <ichor_> Haben sie Firefox probieren?
[11:42] <ichor_> Es ist besser, ich glaube.
[11:43] <Dr_willis> !de
[11:43] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:43] <hirschi> ja is besser, nur warum geht konquer nicht?
[11:43] <hirschi> ui danke
[11:43] <DaSkreech> !de
[11:43] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:43] <DaSkreech> Doh
[11:44] <ichor_> Das weiss ich nicht. Entschuldigung.
[11:45] <hirschi> ok danke ich schau mal in nem deutschen channel
[11:45] <VSpike> what does "Gesamtkunstwerk" mean?
[11:45] <savetheWorld> something-work
[11:45] <uga> VSpike: sausages with cabbage
[11:45] <uga> can't be anything else ;)
[11:45] <VSpike> lol
[11:47] <Dr_willis> Struddle!
[11:51] <uga> VSpike: well, the other option was beer, but I know that's "bier"
[11:51] <uga> so...
[11:52] <uga> anyway, their *wurst with sauerkraut isn't that bad. I was there this same year
[11:54] <daddy> Hello?
[11:55] <Dr_willis> Hello.
[11:55] <DaSkreech> I don't know why you say goodbye when I say Hello
[11:55] <weswh-> how do i check my kubuntu version?
[11:55] <stdin> !version | weswh-
[11:55] <ubotu> weswh-: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[11:55] <digbert> i forgot how i solved this in the past, but i installed the latest nvidia driver from the nvidia site, and now all my ttys make the monitor show "frequency out of range."
[11:55] <digbert> anyone know how to fix that? i have an 8300 GS on kubuntu feisty fawn (7.04)
[11:56] <digbert> no nvidia* packages installed, no linux-restricted-modules-* packages installed
[11:57] <blendtux> i  am looking for a news client for kde, cause knode is not working correctly
[11:57] <daddy> I have a problem with my Scanner. I get a message like ...Failed to open Device 'artec_eplus48u:libusb:002:006 Invalid argument. What does this mean???
[11:57] <weswh-> has anyone seen the "Kickoff" start menu that Suse has implemented into their latest release?
[11:58] <DaSkreech> !kickoff
[11:58] <ubotu> Kickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2331
[11:58] <weswh-> I keep hearing rumblings that Suse is the premiere KDE platform
[11:59] <Dr_willis> :)
[11:59] <Dr_willis> was that a kickoff?
[11:59] <Dr_willis> or a kickoff replacement?
[11:59] <weswh-> DaSkreech: any word from kubuntu in terms of interest in it?
[11:59] <Dr_willis> Linux Mint - i Though had a similer replacement menu for KDE.
[11:59] <weswh-> it looks pretty cool
[11:59] <Dr_willis> not sure if it came from suse;s stuff or not
[11:59] <DaSkreech> weswh-: Well I'm sure someone packages it for Kubuntu
[11:59] <stdin> unless KDE adopts it, I guess it won't be default
[12:00] <DaSkreech> KDE is adopting it
[12:00] <deviance> stdin: I am using the manual settings for connecting to my WiFi network, is there a command line way of checking how strong the connection is or what my maxium speed is or anything
[12:00] <stdin> DaSkreech:  as default for the KMenu?
[12:00] <stdin> deviance: iwconfig
[12:00] <scott_dennister> hey channel, having a bit of a problem with an older, spare video card...a riva tnt2...i've enabled the legacy nvidia drivers, but can't get a resolution smaller than 800x800...can anyone help me with this?
[12:00] <deviance> Thank you
[12:01] <weswh-> when they say 7.10 won't be the next long term support release - does that mean that unless you have specific needs you should stick with 7.04?
[12:01] <stdin> weswh-: 7.04 isn's LTS either
[12:01] <weswh-> personally I would be upgrading in hopes of any increased performance, and stability out of KDE - and of course access to newer audited versions of the software I use
[12:01] <weswh-> hmm, good to know.
[12:02] <DaSkreech> stdin: yes
[12:02] <stdin> DaSkreech: in what version?
[12:02] <DaSkreech> KDE 4.0
[12:02] <daddy> Does anybody know anything about Xsane?
[12:02] <DaSkreech> KDE 4.1 will probaby remove it
[12:02] <stdin> DaSkreech: I would have thought it'd be a plasmoid then
[12:02] <scott_dennister> anyone? for an xorg smaller resolution problem?
[12:03] <DaSkreech> Probably will be
[12:03] <DaSkreech> !resolution
[12:03] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:04] <ubuntu_> hello
[12:05] <weyersrw_> I am trying to make knetwork manager work to find wireless networks Grrrr it is not helping at all and I does not seem to be in control
[12:05] <weyersrw_> hello
[12:06] <daddy> Hello!!
[12:06] <scott_dennister> ty bot :)
[12:06] <weyersrw_> also I am useing gutsy
[12:06] <Lucian0> hey, is it not detecting the wireless network?
[12:06] <weyersrw_> no but I can configure the network man
[12:06] <weyersrw_> ually
[12:06] <daddy> Have a question about Xsane.
[12:07] <fdoving> weyersrw_: make sure there is no reference to your wireless device in /etc/network/interfaces - if it's mentioned there knetworkmanager won't touch it.
[12:07] <weyersrw_> Tis there
[12:08] <weyersrw_> see it in wlan system settings cannot figure out how to turn auto on as it seems that gutsys system settings took over
[12:09] <uga> weyersrw_: does kwifimanager help?
[12:09] <ICXCNIKA> I was thinking of switching to a Linux distro. Are there any advantages that Kubuntu has over openSUSE (another distro I am considering?)
[12:09] <DaSkreech> ICXCNIKA: If you like it sure..
[12:10] <weyersrw_> not loaded as to many cooks in the kitchen already
[12:10] <DaSkreech> ICXCNIKA: Personally I like the #kubuntu community
[12:10] <Dr_willis> then theres the whole 'apt' vs 'rpm' flamewar
[12:11] <digbert> anyway, anyone know how to fix the out of range error i asked about a little while ago?
[12:11] <sub[t] rnl> apt > *
[12:11] <scott_dennister> gonna restartx
[12:11] <weyersrw_> > auto lo
[12:12] <weyersrw_> > iface lo inet loopback
[12:12] <weyersrw_> > address 127.0.0.1
[12:12] <weyersrw_> > netmask 255.0.0.0
[12:12] <weyersrw_> > iface wifi0 inet dhcp
[12:12] <weyersrw_> > wireless-essid P
[12:12] <ICXCNIKA> DaSkreech: I see. Well I just want my hardware to be supported.
[12:12] <weyersrw_> > auto wifi0
[12:12] <weyersrw_> > iface wifi1 inet dhcp
[12:12] <weyersrw_> > iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[12:12] <weyersrw_> > wireless-essid P
[12:12] <weyersrw_> > auto wlan0
[12:12] <weyersrw_> interfaces looks like this
[12:13] <DaSkreech> ICXCNIKA: Live CD is the fastest way to find out
[12:13] <Sanne> ICXCNIKA: the Microsoft-Novell deal might also be a reason to be at least a bit wary of products they're involved in
[12:13] <Minataku> Dr_willis!
[12:13] <Dr_willis> Minataku,
[12:13] <Dr_willis> :)
[12:13] <sub[t] rnl> hehe
[12:13] <Dr_willis> been cleanign house all day
[12:13] <Minataku> Where are my Amigas? XD
[12:13] <Dr_willis> buried under piles of other things at the moment..
[12:13] <Minataku> Heh
[12:13] <Dr_willis> trying to get me a table or 2 setup
[12:13] <Dr_willis> wife decided to clean out the basement FINIALLY
[12:13] <weyersrw_> ICXCNIKA>I have used alot of different versions in my testing and I came back to Kubuntu from suse and mepis
[12:14] <uga> Minataku: your friends?
[12:14] <Dr_willis> we have literally a Pickup truck load of Blankets. shes going through.
[12:14] <Minataku> No rush, of course, but could you try to send those to me some time?
[12:14] <sub[t] rnl> Dr_willis: made the wife do it eh?
[12:14] <sub[t] rnl> :P
[12:14] <sub[t] rnl> atta baby
[12:14] <Dr_willis> sub[t] rnl,  she got engertic and wanted some blankets with the winter comming.. so i brought them ALL up.
[12:14] <ICXCNIKA> Sanne: I just fear that Novell might end up pulling the plug on the openSUSE program anyway.
[12:14] <sub[t] rnl> hehe
[12:14] <sub[t] rnl> i take it there were quite a few?
[12:14] <weyersrw_> What kind of harware
[12:14] <Minataku> I'd love to add the Amigas to my computer collection, but if I don't have them, it's kind of hard. XD
[12:15] <Dr_willis> sub[t] rnl,  literally a Pickup truck bed full...
[12:15] <sub[t] rnl> rofl
[12:15] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  yep. I was trying to access their hard drives via usb on a linux box the other day.. couldent do it. :(
[12:15] <Minataku> I've got spare 3.5" IDE HDDs
[12:15] <Dr_willis> so  i guess i aint going to be transferign stuff from them.. not that i need any of their stuff
[12:15] <Sanne> ICXCNIKA: yeah, you'll never know. Well, as you're in #kubuntu, you'll might get some recommendations of this nice distro anyway :). The community is indeed great.
[12:15] <Minataku> So that's no trouble
[12:15] <Dr_willis> they use laptop sized hd's
[12:15] <Dr_willis> unless ya got some adaptors
[12:15] <Minataku> If I manage to get anything off of them
 If I take it out then will the knetwork manager work with it
[12:15] <Minataku> 2.5" is what I meant
[12:15] <uga> Minataku: you should get one of those Spectrums with loads of memory packed so that they run kubuntu
[12:15] <Minataku> lol
[12:16] <Dr_willis> Not that i need stuff from them... just playing with them.
[12:16] <fdoving> weyersrw_: if you want network-manager to manage your devices, just remove everything after and including the line: 'iface wifi0 inet dhcp' in /etc/network/interfaces - you could make a backup of that file of course.
[12:16] <Minataku> Dr_willis: k
[12:16] <Dr_willis> i was trying to put one in my broke laptop.. but the HD from the amiga is thicker then the laptop hd.
[12:16] <Dr_willis> never knew they came in differant thicknesses
[12:16] <Minataku> Well, if you could, try to expedite the shipping on them XD
[12:16] <Minataku> Yeah, the older ones were usually thicker
[12:17] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  :) send me the address again. ill print it out here in Big letters.
[12:17] <Minataku> That is, send them last-class shipping, cheapest option
[12:17] <Minataku> But try to actually get them out XD
[12:17] <fdoving> weyersrw_: yes, it will. it might need a restart, '/etc/dbus-1/event.d/25NetworkManager restart' to fetch the changes.
[12:17] <Minataku> If you can't, no rush, like I said
[12:17] <Dr_willis> I got the weekend off.. I have one in a box allready.. but its not very well protected.
[12:17] <Dr_willis> But i got lots of spare blankets i can wrap it in! then box it up now.
[12:18] <sub[t] rnl> haha
[12:18] <Minataku> Haha
[12:18] <Dr_willis> :)
[12:18] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Address PM'd
[12:18] <Minataku> And thanks X3
[12:19] <Minataku> I've still got to get around to messing with the two big calculators
[12:19] <Minataku> But like I said, the other two are working
[12:19] <Minataku> Three
[12:19] <Dr_willis> yep. im at a point in my life i can LOOK around the house and find 12+ things i need to do.. then the wife adds another 5 while im doing one...
[12:19] <Minataku> The two LED ones that are running have slight issues with key bounce, though
[12:19] <Dr_willis> but at least shes CLEANING out the junk!
[12:19] <Minataku> Haha
[12:20] <Minataku> Find any other interesting computers in your basement?
[12:20] <Dr_willis> Clean out the basement has been a 2 year job for her.
[12:20] <Dr_willis> GOt an iMAC DV. and some old pc's
[12:20] <Dr_willis> a Few C64's
[12:20] <Dr_willis> thats about all i got left.
[12:20] <Minataku> Hm
[12:20] <Minataku> The iMac is no doubt too heavy
[12:20] <Dr_willis> and of course these heavy CRT;s
[12:20] <Minataku> I don't take PCs unless they're laptops
[12:21] <Dr_willis> I got an old sony laptop. it needs a HD. and its broke in half. :) going to fix it for the kids someday...
[12:21] <Minataku> Perhaps a C64 or two if you don't want them
[12:21] <Dr_willis> its my live-cd test bed.
[12:21] <Minataku> lol
[12:21] <ICXCNIKA> brb
[12:21] <Dr_willis> I got a Vic-20 also
[12:21] <Minataku> And the chips out of those PCs if you throw them away
[12:21] <Dr_willis> somehere.
[12:21] <Minataku> BEcause I collect ICs
[12:21] <Minataku> CPUs, EPROMs, the like
[12:21] <mark_> hey all
[12:21] <Minataku> And RAM and any interesting cards
[12:21] <Dr_willis> heh. ill see what i can grab at work from the various High $$$ controller cards.
[12:21] <Minataku> Send those if you would, too
[12:22] <Dr_willis> from CNC machines and stuff.
[12:22] <Minataku> Ooooh
[12:22] <Minataku> Cool :D
[12:22] <Minataku> Yeah, I'd love some exotic chips
[12:22] <Minataku> Just don't get in trouble X3
[12:22] <Dr_willis> Yep. :) well iof they thow the whole thing away..  its junk. :) i can be taking it aprart to look at it.. :)
[12:22] <Dr_willis> got some cooling fans from HUGE dc motors that can take a hand off..
[12:23] <Minataku> I actually got two Intel 80960CA chips out of two high-end SCSI server cards
[12:23] <Dr_willis> the things literally hover off the table about an inch.
[12:23] <Minataku> Those were cool
[12:23] <mark4931> thats cool that there is a chat channel just for kubuntu owners already built in to kubuntu
[12:23] <Dr_willis> Ok. i will go clean the basement some more . and box up some stuff for ya.
[12:23] <Minataku> Yeah, the three A1200s, the one PSU, maybe a C64 or two and any cool chips you can find, I'll take 'em all :D
[12:23] <Dr_willis> Your dad wont get mad again?
[12:23] <mark4931> you have instante friends
[12:23] <Minataku> I cleaned my room
[12:23] <mark4931> and instante help
[12:23] <Minataku> So he shouldn't be too angry about it
[12:23] <Dr_willis> :)
[12:24] <Dr_willis> ill label them 'school supplies' :)
[12:24] <Minataku> Haha
[12:24] <Dr_willis> or 'your latex novelties'
[12:24] <Minataku> Label them "Calculators"
[12:24] <Minataku> Or something small like that
[12:24] <Dr_willis> 'Anthrax'
[12:24] <Dr_willis> :P
[12:24] <Minataku> NO
[12:24] <Minataku> >:P
[12:24] <Minataku> Label them "Parts for school work"
[12:24] <mark4931> so does anyone know how to change the screen resolution higher that 1024 x620
[12:24] <Dr_willis> Ok. :)
[12:24] <Minataku> That'll work very well :3
[12:25] <Dr_willis> well off to clean. see ya later. wife is YELLING again...
[12:25] <Minataku> Since I _am_ in Computer Engineering Technology :D
[12:25] <sub[t] rnl> see ya dr
[12:25] <Minataku> Heehee, escape to the basement ^^
[12:25] <sub[t] rnl> mark4931: add the appropriate modes into xorg.conf
[12:25] <mark4931> my laptop supports 1400 x 900 but i cant get it to that resolution
[12:25] <sub[t] rnl> !resolution
[12:25] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:26] <sub[t] rnl> try that link
[12:26] <mark4931> how do i do that?
[12:26] <mark4931> ok ill take a look at that web page
[12:26] <mark4931> brb
[12:31] <mark4931> it doesnt have intel on there
[12:32] <mark4931> i have intel 956 or something for a video card
[12:32] <mark4931> this is the window to configure xserver
[12:32] <weyersrw__> fdoving are you still here
[12:33] <fdoving> weyersrw__: yes.
[12:36] <sub[t] rnl> mark4931: what video card do you have?
[12:37] <mark4931> intel mobile 945gm
[12:38] <sub[t] rnl> ok, you'll want to install the latest intel driver then
[12:38] <mark4931> how do i do that?..
[12:39] <stdin> try installing "xserver-xorg-video-intel" and change "i810" to "intel" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:39] <sub[t] rnl> use apt-get to install it