[12:34] <tkamppeter> slangasek, so it is OK with the freeze? Then pitti or doko can simply upload it?
[12:35] <slangasek> tkamppeter: yes, clear, targetted bugfixes are ok
[12:39] <tkamppeter> slangasek, Thanks, I have subscribed bug 149264 and bug 149529 to the main uplod sponsors now and added an appropriate comment.
[12:39] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 149264 in system-config-printer "Wrong driver selected for my Canon iP3000" [Medium,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149264
[12:39] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 149529 in system-config-printer "should not add an item to Applications -> System tools" [High,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149529
[12:40] <doko> slangasek, tkamppeter: uploading ...
[12:43] <tkamppeter> doko, thanks.
[12:43] <pochu> slangasek: is it ok to upload this liferea new upstream release? it's just a bug fix release, and works pretty well. It has been there for some days, but slomo, who sponsors me, hasn't had time to upload it...
[12:43] <pochu> http://emilio.pozuelo.org/~deb/
[12:43] <slangasek> pochu: upstream changelog please?
[12:44] <pochu> slangasek: first lines of http://emilio.pozuelo.org/~deb/liferea-debian.diff
[12:44] <slangasek> ah, that's the entire upstream changelog?
[12:44] <pochu> yes, minor bug fix release.
[12:45] <pochu> 1.4.3b -> 1.4.4
[12:46] <pochu> slangasek: I've checked every commit for the release, and can ensure you it doesn't add new features.
[12:47] <slangasek> pochu: the changes described in the changelog could have introduced regressions; I'd like to review the full upstream diff before accepting it
[12:47] <slangasek> pochu: if it's not inconvenient for you, uploading it and having me review it there would be fine
[12:47] <pochu> slangasek: I would do, but liferea is in main and I'm not even a motu... :-)
[12:48] <pochu> And slomo hasn't been around for all the day... any volunteer?
[12:49] <pochu> http://emilio.pozuelo.org/~deb/liferea_1.4.4-0ubuntu1.dsc <-- a big hug to the nice person who sponsors that!
[12:49] <slangasek> pochu: right, if you don't have a sponsor already lined up, let me take the time to download what you have
[12:49] <pochu> dget -x http://emilio.pozuelo.org/~deb/liferea_1.4.4-0ubuntu1.dsc is fast ;)
[12:50] <lamego> liferea had some serious bugs on latest upgrades
[12:51] <pochu> such as?
[12:52] <lamego> http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=542165&group_id=87005
[12:52] <lamego> 1.4.2b had a grave bug, then, 1.4.3 data loss
[12:52] <lamego> all of them, bug fixing upgrades
[12:53] <pochu> lamego: that isn't true. Those upgrades were fixing those bugs, but those bugs were already there in past releases. So there was no regression.
[12:54] <lamego> pochu, please read the notes, " This
[12:54] <lamego> problem was introduced with 1.4.2b."
[12:54] <lamego> anyway I am just warning :)
[12:55] <pochu> Hmm, true for the update interval. But not for the data loss.
[12:56] <pochu> btw I've been using it for 5 days and I haven't found any regression.
[12:56] <tepsipakki> slangasek: bryce already mentioned about ati, here's a debdiff that has fixes from git master and one of our own which will be pushed soon: http://users.tkk.fi/~tjaalton/dpkg/ati/ati.debdiff
[12:57] <slangasek> tepsipakki: if it's nothing more than bugfixes, please upload and let the release team review it there
[12:57] <tepsipakki> slangasek: right, forgot about that.. will upload :)
[12:58] <slangasek> (also, if any of the bugs being fixed aren't yet milestoned, please milestone them or ask the release team to look at milestoning them)
[01:01] <tepsipakki> yep, milestoned
[01:06] <slangasek> pochu: liferea looks ok
[01:07] <pochu> cool. any volunteer to sponsor me? http://emilio.pozuelo.org/~deb/liferea_1.4.4-0ubuntu1.dsc
[01:09] <mjg59> pochu: I don't suppose that fixes the loss of posts on unclean shutdown?
[01:14] <pochu> mjg59: I'm afraid it doesn't, nope :(
[01:15] <pochu> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1784045&group_id=87005&atid=581684
[01:15] <ubotu> Sourceforge bug 1784045 "changes are not saved" [Pri: 8,Open wont] 
[05:34] <xjkx> booting ubuntu 7.04 livecd i had an error like no such user/module layer or something wtf
[05:35] <xjkx> oh sry
[05:37] <ScottK> xjkx: Try #ubuntu for support
[05:38] <xjkx> that channel sucks, too many messages then nobody sees it :P but i know...here you don't give support thats why i said sorry and went there
[05:39] <ScottK> OK.
[05:40] <xjkx> [caps lock]  :) [/caps lock] 
[07:09] <slangasek> gutsy-alternate-amd64.iso         06-Oct-2007 05:46  656M
[07:09] <slangasek> I feel as though something's missing...
[07:09] <StevenK> The kernel? :-P
[07:10] <slangasek> nope, it's there!
[07:10] <StevenK> openoffice.org-base?
[07:11] <slangasek> oh, heh, actually it looks like we are missing some kernel bits (l-r-m) due to an ABI change
[07:13] <slangasek> and we also still haven't gotten rid of libdb4.3, hnngh
[07:14] <kylem> sigh.
[07:15] <slangasek> kylem: ?
[07:15] <slangasek> they're printable on my screen, must be chipset-specific breakage
[07:15] <kylem> yes, indeed.
[07:18] <slangasek> oh, there we go, cdimage still had the old version of postfix, sigh
[07:27] <rhkfin> Anyone else failing to start X w. 2.6.22-13-generic & nvidia ?
[07:27] <rhkfin> 2,6,22-12 works good
[07:29] <persia> rhkfin: It's waiting on a l-r-m update
[07:29] <Hobbsee> slangasek: dont you have archive admin access yet?
[07:29] <rhkfin> l-r-m?
[07:29] <Hobbsee> or has l-r-m not even built yet?
[07:30] <rhkfin> ah, restricted modules..
[07:45] <slangasek> Hobbsee: sure; how does that help in this case?
[07:47] <Hobbsee> slangasek: you have access to the new queue.  the new binaries are in the binary new queue.  i thought you were a RM and archive person in debian....
[07:47] <Hobbsee> slangasek: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text=linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22
[07:47] <Hobbsee> bottom 6.
[08:00] <slangasek> oh
[08:00] <slangasek> duh
[08:01] <slangasek> didn't even occur to me that they were waiting in new :)
[08:35] <sladen> slangasek: the word you're looking for is "touch" :)
[08:37] <bryce> slangasek: still abouts?
[08:37] <slangasek> bryce: yah
[08:38] <bryce> I made some silly typos in my last bulletproof-x upload
[08:38] <bryce> slangasek: mind okaying this debdiff?  http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/Uploads/xorg_7.2-5ubuntu12.debdiff
[08:39] <Hobbsee> bryce: looks fine.
[08:40] <StevenK> bryce: How much Perl have you coded? :-P
[08:40] <StevenK> next is a Perl-ism, not a shell-ism. :-)
[08:40] <bryce> StevenK: waaay too much ;-)
[08:42] <slangasek> bryce: yes, please to upload
[08:42] <bryce> thanks
[09:08] <tepsipakki> slangasek: ati FTBFS (due to a typo in patch 10), but there is a new upstream already (with a proper version of that patch) and the delta is very small, so I'll just upload that, ok?
[09:09] <tepsipakki> hm, it'll take a while ->
[09:09] <slangasek> tepsipakki: what's in the very small delta, rm -rf * ? :)
[09:10] <Fujitsu> Haha, it's in the >100MiB l-r-m, isn't it?
[09:14] <bryce> slangasek: fixes for bugs that are not in our Launchpad yet iirc
[09:23] <slangasek> bryce: if they're all straight bugfixes, then go for it
[09:24] <bryce> slangasek: thanks, will do
[09:33] <Keybuk> UserFriendly is weird last couple of days
[09:33] <slangasek> s/days/years/, I'm pretty sure
[09:33] <Keybuk> maybe
[09:34] <Fujitsu> It has deteriorated of late :(
[09:34] <Keybuk> it's referring to a "new" UK legislation about encryption keys
[09:34] <Keybuk> except that it seems to be referring to the RIP Act, which is over seven years old now
[09:35] <lifeless> internet time
[09:35] <lifeless> in reverse
[09:35] <Keybuk> :)
[09:57] <lamego> hello, is anyone aware of a crash bug on gdebi ?
[09:58] <lamego> i mean, gdebi-gtk
[10:00] <lamego> hum, it is only triggered when installing an app after downloaded by firefox, which is odd
[10:01] <mvo> lamego: what is the backtrace?
[10:01] <lamego> anyone willing to reproduce the problem to make sure it is reproducable ?
[10:01] <mvo> lamego: if it produced a crash file with a backtrace, that should be good enough for a bugreport
[10:02] <lamego> ok, but I wanted to be sure is not specific to my config :P
[10:05] <slangasek> if the backtrace is good enough, we might not need anything else
[10:06] <lamego> I found a particular detail, it only happens on reinstall, not during install
[10:06] <lamego> slangasek, but if I have a live sample it may allow you a better debug/fix testing
[10:07] <lamego> I am filling the bug, but in case someone one to try: http://build.getdeb.net/abs/post_build/gutsy/webilder_0.6.2-1~getdeb1_all.deb
[10:08] <lamego> hum, is is already reported
[10:09] <sladen> lamego: make sure you add your report to it aswell
[10:09] <lamego> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdebi/+bug/123674
[10:09] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 123674 in gdebi "gdebi-gtk crashed with AttributeError in on_button_install_clicked()" [Undecided,Confirmed] 
[10:09] <lamego> it's a show stopper
[10:10] <lamego> the error is self-explanatory
[10:10] <lamego> AttributeError: 'GDebi' object has no attribute 'unauthenticated'
[10:11] <lamego> hum, how does gdebi checks for a package authentication ?
[10:16] <lamego> mvo, is this future code ?
[10:23] <slangasek> there we are now, 670MB and the packages are all there. :)
[10:34] <Amaranth> 670MB? how did you get it so small?
[10:34] <Amaranth> did we finally drop OOo? :)
[10:36] <sladen> quick, lets fill it up.  back issues of ubuntu-calendar ftw!
[10:37] <Keybuk> Amaranth: if only someone would write a GNOME presentation app, then we could!
[10:47] <slangasek> Amaranth: doko's crazy fdupes attack on evolution-common
[10:48] <Amaranth> nice
[10:48] <Amaranth> I never could figure out the output of that thing (the fdupe checker)
[10:56] <ogra> Keybuk, what happened to criawips ?
[10:58] <Keybuk> ogra: unmaintained, afaict
[10:58] <ogra> ah, bad
[11:22] <tepsipakki> slangasek: I lied, the debdiff was actually quite large, since the version I just uploaded doesn't have the changes as patches anymore, but it's safe nevertheless :)
[11:27] <pochu> bryce: displayconfig-gtk isn't saving my changes, when I try to change the driver from i810 to intel. I'm running it from a terminal, and I just see this warning.
[11:27] <pochu> *** Error: no screens were specified in the ServerLayout section
[11:29] <pochu> bryce: it won't save the screen selection. Actually, it doesn't seem to be saving anything.
[11:37] <pochu> bryce: or maybe it's saving it, but everytime I start displayconfig-gtk it doesn't show my actual settings, but the defaults one?
[11:37] <pochu> brb, let's see if this is working
[11:38] <pitti> Good morning
[11:39] <mvo> hey pitti
[11:39] <stgraber> hi pitti
[11:39] <pitti> hey guys
[11:39] <pitti> seb128: \o/ my libgnome works now (login/logout sound)
[11:39] <pochu> heya pitti
[11:39] <pitti> seb128: I just didn't manage to upload it yesterday any more; I'll clean up the patch and upload now
[11:40] <stgraber> pitti: I'm about to reinstall my home server (new hardware) and would like to know if today gutsy server images should have a working cryptsetup ?
[11:40] <pochu> bryce: this is working, so it was saving the changes. The issue is that when I open displayconfig-gtk those changes aren't displayed, as if I hadn't done them. I'll file a bug report in a bit.
[11:40] <pitti> stgraber: problem is still that you need to do an "update-initramfs -u" after installation, then it works
[11:40] <pitti> stgraber: we haven't figured out the reason for that yet
[11:41] <pitti> stgraber: so if you don't mind a first broken boot, it works
[11:41] <stgraber> does a "in-target update-initramfs -u" work too ?
[11:43] <pitti> no idea
[11:49] <seb128> which does it start on upgrade and tell applications I'm not connected when I am on the internet just not using it
[11:53] <Amaranth> seb128: So maybe when NetworkManager first starts it should advertise that it's connected until it determines otherwise?
[11:54] <seb128> Amaranth: that's not a temporary state, it lists no wired or wireless connections
[11:54] <Amaranth> Oh, so it's broken then
[11:55] <seb128> yes ;)
[12:04] <mdke> pitti: got a sec?
[12:13] <pitti> mdke: sure
[12:13] <pitti> doko: wow, you rock! downsizing evo by 27 MB??
[12:13] <pitti> the alternates have loads of space now
[12:13] <pitti> so I'll add back the amputated bits I chopped for beta
[12:14] <pitti> mdke: please go ahead and upload the uncrippled ubuntu-docs then (maybe dropping the bar to 50%?)
[12:14] <doko> pitti: +9 in gnome-user-docs, place for icedtea =)
[12:14] <mdke> pitti: so that's what I wanted to talk to you about
[12:14] <pitti> doko: +9? ugh
[12:14] <mdke> doko: oh, did you do a gnome-user-docs upload?
[12:15] <doko> mdke: yes
[12:15] <mdke> doko: did you push the changes somewhere?
[12:15] <doko> no
[12:15] <mdke> can you? that package is maintained in bzr
[12:16] <pitti> doko, mdke: erm, do we talk about gnome-user-docs, or ubuntu-docs?
[12:16] <mdke> sorry, I wanted to talk to you about ubuntu-docs, but got distracted by gnome-user-docs (which the docteam also maintains)
[12:18] <lastlemming> hello
[12:18] <mdke> pitti: so about ubuntu-docs now. I need to check if daniel's upload yesterday was the crippled version; it looks from the changelog that he didn't get my changes for that
[12:18] <lastlemming> 7.10 RC will out this thurday right?
[12:18] <pitti> lastlemming: yes
[12:19] <mdke> pitti: with the next upload, could I also have your permission to update the translations in the package, they are a bit out of date and it would be nice to update them.
[12:19] <pitti> mdke: sure
[12:19] <lastlemming> thx pitti
[12:19] <mdke> pitti: thanks, I'll do that this weekend then
[12:20] <mdke> doko: so, gnome-user-docs, would you mind pushing your changes to LP so we can update the main branch?
[12:23] <doko> mdke: http://people.ubuntu.com/~doko/tmp/gnome-user-docs.debdiff , afk now
[12:25] <mdke> doko: thanks, and thanks for improving the package too :)
[12:31] <mdke> doko: it didn't apply cleanly, I guess you didn't get the source from bzr? I thought that it did it automatically with those packages that are maintained there
[12:57] <Kopfgeldjaeger> hi
[01:14] <seb128> doko: is that normal that /usr/share/doc/evolution is empty now?
[01:14] <er4z0r> hi
[01:14] <er4z0r> I just updated to gibbon and now I cannot get my wireless-card to wrok
[01:14] <pitti> seb128: it shouldn't be; evolution-common does not ship any docs AFAICS
[01:15] <seb128> pitti: there is nothing, no changelog, no copyright, etc
[01:15] <seb128> same for evolution-common
[01:15] <pitti> seb128, doko: oh, it does, but I guess the preinst removes it
[01:15] <pitti> seb128: /u/s/d/evolution is a symlink to evo-common
[01:15] <seb128> which is empty
[01:16] <seb128> $ ls -l /usr/share/doc/evolution-common
[01:16] <seb128> total 0
[01:16] <pitti> if [ "$1" = upgrade ]  && [ ! -L /usr/share/doc/evolution ] ; then
[01:16] <pitti>     rm -rf /usr/share/doc/evolution
[01:16] <pitti> fi
[01:16] <seb128> ii  evolution-common         2.12.0-0ubuntu4          architecture independent files for Evolution
[01:16] <pitti> somehow this wreaked havoc
[01:17] <seb128> bah
[01:17] <seb128> anyway lunch time for now
[01:17] <seb128> see you later
[01:23] <pitti> seb128: libgnome uploaded, btw
[01:23] <pitti> seb128: it waits RM approval now, but feel free to snatch it from the queue and try :)
[01:43] <pitti> kylem, BenC: can someone please upload l-b-m for abi -13?
[01:43] <LongPointyStick> hiya pitti
[01:43] <pitti> hi Hobbs^WLongPointyStick
[01:43] <LongPointyStick> :)
[01:46] <LongPointyStick> dammit, i wish i'd booted into the right kernel...
[01:47] <pitti> have a good weekend everyone!
[01:47] <LongPointyStick> bye pitti!
[01:48] <LongPointyStick> weekends are overrated.
[02:42] <Karnaugh> bryce: updated #149726
[02:42] <Karnaugh> bryce: the driver off ATI site seems to work
[03:26] <Hobbsee> kylem: ping
[03:42] <kylem> Hobbsee, hi.
[03:43] <Hobbsee> kylem: you mention in http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/linux/kernel/828214 that the change is wrong.  you're right - sbalneav's X has been broken by it, by this new kernel upload
[03:46] <kylem> i know.
[03:47] <Hobbsee> kylem: ah, OK.
[03:47] <kylem> unfortunately it apparently fixes another bug.
[03:47] <Hobbsee> kylem: you cant just make hte corresponding change to xf86-video-intel?
[03:48] <Kopfgeldjaeger> does anyone have some configs using lvm+cryptsetup for me? (menu.lst, fstab etc.)
[03:48] <kylem> Hobbsee, the point isn't that it's wrong, it's that it was wrong for 2.6.23
[03:48] <Hobbsee> kylem: indeed.
[03:51] <sbalneav> kylem: Morning!
[03:52] <kylem> hi.
[03:54] <sbalneav> kylem: Was going to mention my G33 got bitten by the kernel update, however, Hobbsee's already beaten me to the punch :)
[03:55] <kylem> Hobbsee, if i i upload a fixed xf86-..-intel will you approve it?
[03:55] <Hobbsee> kylem: just to fix that?  i can via irc, but i have no archive admin access
[03:55] <Hobbsee> kylem: so i'm of limited help
[03:55] <Hobbsee> cjwatson: may be around to actually shove it thru
[03:56] <kylem> you're an RM, i can do the archive admin evil.
[03:56] <Hobbsee> kylem: ok, fine by me
[03:56] <Hobbsee> kylem: one day i'll ask for archive admin, i think :)
[03:56] <sbalneav> kylem: If you'd like to point me at a place where you've got the package sitting on an HTTP server, I can grab it and try it here quickly, if that's helpful.
[03:57] <Hobbsee> sbalneav: that'd be good
[04:04] <kylem> sbalneav, amd64?
[04:04] <sbalneav> No, Intel Core Duo
[04:04] <kylem> s/amd64/64-bit/?
[04:05] <sbalneav> No.
[04:05] <kylem> darn. ok.
[04:05] <sbalneav> I'm running 32
[04:05] <sbalneav> Good? Bad? Indifferent? :)
[04:05] <kylem> people.ubuntu.com/~kyle/ has the dsc,diff,changes if you want to build it on i386
[04:05] <kylem> i'm testing on amd64 atm
[04:06] <sbalneav> ok, I can do that.
[04:06] <kylem> well, will be in a second when i reboot
[04:10] <kylem> it works. ship it. :)
[04:15] <Hobbsee> http://wedontsleep.org/~sarah/
[04:15] <kylem> heh, ain't that the truth, i went to sleep at 6am
[04:15] <sbalneav> Ok, got it, gimme a second to reboot
[04:15] <sbalneav> brb
[04:15] <minghua> StevenK has interesting domain names...
[04:16] <Hobbsee> minghua: yes, seems so.
[04:19] <LongPointyStick> uhh...
[04:19] <StevenK> Uh?
[04:20] <sbalneav> Yup
[04:20] <LongPointyStick> my X appears to have died.
[04:20] <sbalneav> Works like a charm
[04:20] <sbalneav> hehehe
[04:20] <sbalneav> LongPointyStick: O-RLY?
[04:21] <sbalneav> LongPointyStick: kylem just fixed it.
[04:21] <LongPointyStick> yep, that does it.
[04:21] <sbalneav> kylem: Thanks, dude.
[04:22] <LongPointyStick> note to self: dont remove -i810 driver
[04:22] <sbalneav> Where'd Hobbsee go?
[04:22] <LongPointyStick> here
[04:22] <sbalneav> Oh, lol
[04:22] <sbalneav> Didn't recognize the alternate nick.
[04:22] <sbalneav> Now I feel like a dope :)
[04:22] <LongPointyStick> :)it's secret for a reason
[04:23] <LongPointyStick> okay, so my X entirely breaks with just the -intel driver.  that's interesting.
[04:23] <sbalneav> Linux phobos 2.6.22-13-generic
[04:23] <sbalneav> ii  xserver-xorg-video-intel                   2:2.1.1-0ubuntu6
[04:24] <sbalneav> Looks like I'm running on all the latest goodies.
[04:24] <kylem> the problem is if people upgrade and don't reboot just restart X, they'll be boned too
[04:24] <Hobbsee> kylem: oh, was that my problem?
[04:24] <kylem> you need -13 running for that -intel to work (on G33 hw)
[04:24] <kylem> it shouldn't change anything for anyone else.
[04:25] <sbalneav> I've always considered not rebooting when the reboot icon to pop up to be asking for trouble, so I always reboot when there's a kernel upgrade.
[04:26] <sbalneav> kylem: Will you be in Boston?
[04:26] <kylem> unfortunately not.
[04:26] <sbalneav> Ah, well, then I'll have to send you and e-beer, as opposed to buying you a real one :)
[04:26] <kylem> heh, don't worry about it. i had tofix it anyway so i could keep watching house. :)
[04:27] <sbalneav> I hope when they do a show finale, it ends up being lupus.
[04:28] <StevenK> "Every time they say Lupus, take a drink" "Every time House insults Cutty, take a drink." ...
[04:29] <kylem> StevenK, nope, but that sounds like a brilliant idea.
[04:29] <kylem> is there a full rule list?
[04:32] <StevenK> http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3127762
[04:33] <StevenK> I found that, but it isn't the list I remember.
[04:33] <sbalneav> kylem: Off to make breakfast for the fambly, thanks for the help!!
[04:33] <kylem> np
[05:00] <StevenK> pitti: Weekend, you say?
[05:01] <pitti> sort of; I need to wrestle with some fiscal authority stuff
[05:01] <pitti> meh, why did this desktop only boot half up?
[05:21] <Kopfgeldjaeger> pitti: i got it working (manual partitioning+cryptsetup+lvm)
[05:22] <pitti> yay
[05:23] <Kopfgeldjaeger> i had to boot a live-cd, chroot into the system, install-grub /dev/sda and edit fstab/crypttab/menu.lst
[05:24] <Kopfgeldjaeger> and, cryptsetup shows (after entering the password): "could not set up lvm". but it works
[05:33] <kylem> Hobbsee, did you approve it?
[05:35] <Hobbsee> kylem: yes, sorry for not being explicit
[05:36] <kylem> Hobbsee, np,i don't see it on drescher so i was confused
[05:36] <Hobbsee> kylem: i have no access, and they keep switching machine names around.  so i dont know where it's supposed to be.  it certainly hit unapproved, i can see that much
[05:37] <kylem> ok.
[05:37] <Hobbsee> kylem: like i say, one day i'll probably ask for shell access.
[05:37] <kylem>   288657 | S- | xserver-xorg-video-i | 2:2.1.1-0ubuntu6     | 1 hour 30 minutes
[05:37] <Hobbsee> and see what happens
[05:37] <kylem>          | * xserver-xorg-video-intel/2:2.1.1-0ubuntu6 Component: main Section: x11
[05:37] <Hobbsee> yep
[05:37] <kylem> there it is (in unapproveD)
[05:37] <Hobbsee> yep
[05:37] <kylem> cool, thanks
[05:39] <hunger> grub forgot about my windows installation. Is that a bug in gutsy or did I do something wrong?
[05:40] <Hobbsee> hunger: where did you have your windows installation, in menu.lst?
[05:40] <Hobbsee> hunger: in particular, did you have it below line 52?
[05:40] <hunger> Hobbsee: I had windows installed and then installed gutsy from the alternate beta CD.
[05:40] <Hobbsee> oh, and windows never got put there at all?
[05:40] <hunger> Hobbsee: Just pressed ESC to see the grub menu for the first time and no windows.
[05:41] <Hobbsee> might be a bug, but likely hard to reproduce
[05:41] <hunger> Dunno whether it ever was there... you no longer show the menu:-(
[05:41] <Hobbsee> hunger: people seem to like putting it between the ## BEGIN AUTOMATED section, and ## END AUTOMATED sections.  and then wonder why it goes missing.
[05:42] <Hobbsee> so, assuming you didnt edit your menu.list to do that, it's quite possibly a bug.  if you can reproduce it
[05:43] <StevenK> menu.lst, too
[05:43] <Hobbsee> yeah, that.
[05:46] <Kopfgeldjaeger> stgraber: um... with gutsy and the alternate installer?
[05:49] <stgraber> Kopfgeldjaeger: gutsy and server install yes
[05:49] <Kopfgeldjaeger> stgraber: i guess it wont work. but tell me anyway :-) if it doesnt work, im maybe able to help you
[06:09] <gustavonarea> Hello. I have a Toshiba Satellite L35 laptop and sounds is not working with the latest 2 kernels. I
[06:09] <gustavonarea> I have an up-to-date Gutsy
[06:18] <luca> hi everyone
[06:18] <Kopfgeldjaeger> gustavonarea: better go to #ubuntu
[06:18] <luca> the daily updates on gutsy have broken my nvidia and dual-core support :( any suggestion?
[06:20] <gustavonarea> Kopfgeldjaeger: ok, thank you!
[06:20] <crimsun> luca: with linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-13-generic 2.6.22.4-13.6 installed?  BTW, this is better addressed in #ubuntu+1.
[06:21] <luca> crimsun: yeah. :) I tried in ubuntu+1 but received no good help
[06:26] <xbehave> is there anycahnce that ndiswrapper will ever be added to ubuntu live CDs?
[06:29] <stdin> xbehave: ndiswrapper-common and ndiswrapper-utils will be/are on  the gutsy live CD
[06:32] <xbehave> ill check next time i boot i didnt think they were on mine!
[09:09] <highvoltage> is automated-ubiquity actually working yet?
[09:58] <encompass> hey guys... can I have a volunteer for a quick test for a bug in gutsy?  It is a simple gtk test... any takers?
[09:59] <ScottK2> encompass: You might have more luck on #ubuntu-bugs or #ubuntu+1
[09:59] <encompass> oh they have something like that?  cool, let me go there... thanks...
[10:12] <Kopfgeldjaeger> encompass: if you still need somebody, i can do it
[10:12] <lamego> encompass, shoot
[10:13] <encompass> I will give the bug report in a sec
[10:15] <encompass> lamego: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/149980 have fun!
[10:15] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 149980 in ubuntu "some svg files don't display correctly in a GTK widget..." [Undecided,New] 
[10:18] <Chipzz> encompass: that's most likely not a gtk+ bug, but a librsvg bug
[10:19] <Chipzz> (you should file it against that, at least)
[10:19] <Chipzz> the svg pixbuf loader is *not* part of gtk+
[10:19] <Chipzz> but gets built from the librsvg source
[10:19] <Chipzz> (iirc)
[10:21] <encompass> Chipzz: thanks for the pointer I will update the bug
[10:23] <Chipzz> encompass: the exact package is librsvg2-common
[10:27] <cjwatson> highvoltage: should be, folks are starting to use it
[10:29] <encompass> Chipzz: thanks... and just found it is fixed in gutsy thanks guys
[10:39] <luca> hi everyone
[10:39] <Kopfgeldjaeger> hi luca
[10:40] <luca> does someone know how much time will be needed before the restricted modules/drivers are compiled for latest kernel? :)
[10:40] <Kopfgeldjaeger> choose the main server
[10:40] <luca> ?
[10:41] <luca> oh wiat
[10:41] <luca> wait
[10:41] <Kopfgeldjaeger> are you using a local mirror? like ch.archive.ubuntu.com etc.
[10:41] <luca> I am using gutsy beta ;-/
[10:41] <Kopfgeldjaeger> yeah.
[10:41] <lamego> restricted is already fine for me
[10:41] <Kopfgeldjaeger> its already on the main server
[10:42] <luca> which one? can you copy the line please?
[10:42] <luca> some of the restricted (realtek, iwp345) are ok
[10:42] <luca> others (nvidia, dual-core) not
[10:42] <lamego> nvidia is ok, I am using it
[10:43] <Kopfgeldjaeger> just archive.ubuntu.com in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:43] <lamego> and I am using a local mirror
[10:43] <Kopfgeldjaeger> atm it may be de.archive.ubuntu.com or whatever
[10:44] <luca> let me see
[10:44] <luca> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted
[10:44] <luca> it should be ok I guess; still, my nvidia does not function - API kernel mismatch
[10:45] <Kopfgeldjaeger> hmm
[10:45] <luca> and at least according to kde-power-guidance-manager, the system sees only one cpu, not two, as it should as I have a dual-core
[10:46] <stgraber> luca: cat /proc/cpuinfo is the best way to check how many CPU are really used
[10:46] <luca> stepping?
[10:46] <stgraber> luca: in your case you should have processor:0 and processor:1
[10:47] <luca> nope just processor: 0
[10:47] <stgraber> maybe : dmesg | grep -i cpu
[10:48] <stgraber> will give you an idea of where the problem is
[10:48] <luca> !pastebin
[10:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:49] <luca> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39800/
[10:49] <highvoltage> cjwatson: do you perhaps know someone who uses it who I could ask a bit? I couldn't find any documentation on it, and would like to fix that
[10:49] <stgraber> the warning is the problem, it looks like there is a CPU limitation of 1
[10:49] <stgraber> so the second one (second core in fact) is ignored
[10:50] <luca> uhm how would I correct the issue? Is it a problem in how the kernel was compiled and got into a binary?
[10:50] <mjg59> luca: You're booting the -i386 kernel, not -generic
[10:51] <mjg59> -386 has no SMP support
[10:51] <luca> yeah the generic though gives me the same problem
[10:51] <luca> I guess
[10:51] <mjg59> No, it doesn't
[10:51] <luca> uhm I will have to purge the 386 then and retry
[10:51] <luca> the NVIDIA problem remains though...well let's try for the dual core :)
[10:52] <luca> ok removing the 386
[10:52] <stgraber> while speaking about kernel, it's time for me to reboot on -13-generic, see you in a minute
[10:53] <luca> hope things will be smoother than for me ;)
[10:53] <luca> ok rebooting
[10:53] <superm1> other than it being !weekend, would any archive admins happen to be hanging around?
[10:57] <luca> actually it did function
[10:57] <luca> removing the 386 kernel I mean
[10:57] <luca> now only Nvidia problem :-/
[11:17] <pochu> any -core-dev awake to upload liferea?
[11:31] <geser> pochu: !weekend
[11:32] <pochu> geser: yeah I know but if you are here why can't be a -core-dev? ;-)
[11:33] <luca> night
[11:33] <pochu> geser: when will you apply for -core? :)
[11:35] <geser> pochu: contrary to core-devs MOTUs work also at the weekend :)
[11:36] <pochu> hehe