[12:22] <mebrown> cjwatson, evand, ping.
[12:22] <mebrown> https://bugs.launchpad.net/dell/+bug/135602
[12:22] <mebrown> marked as 'invalid', but I see this bug in today's daily.
[12:24] <mebrown> hmm... Ok, I see that it is closed as a dup of: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/oem-config/+bug/23537
[12:24] <mebrown> which is 'fix released'
[12:25] <mebrown> but question remains: when will this hit the daily builds?
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[12:25] <mebrown> cjwatson, --^
[12:26] <mebrown> cjwatson_,, did you see my last couple sentences?
[12:27] <cjwatson_> nope
[12:27] <mebrown> ok...
[12:27] <mebrown>  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/oem-config/+bug/23537
[12:27] <mebrown> which is 'fix released'
[12:27] <cjwatson> yep
[12:27] <mebrown> I dont see it fixed in today's daily
[12:28] <mebrown> and I tried your wget manifest| grep trick
[12:28] <mebrown> and dont see oem-config listed... :(
[12:28] <cjwatson> I'll have to try it out
[12:28] <cjwatson> it's not in the live image, grep for it in .list
[12:28] <cjwatson> /pool/main/o/oem-config/oem-config_1.21_i386.deb
[12:29] <mebrown> which looks to me like it should be fixed...
[12:29] <cjwatson> should be
[12:29] <mebrown> as lp# shows closed in 1.20
[12:29] <mebrown> but...
[12:29] <mebrown> when I tried it out. I installed all language packs on my list and chose 'spanish' as the language
[12:29] <mebrown> and the rest of the screens were still in english
[12:30] <mebrown> (I speak spanish pretty well, so it is easy for me to test...)
[12:32] <mebrown> should I re-open the lp#?
[12:32] <cjwatson> let me try it
[12:32] <mebrown> I have to go for tonight in a min
[12:32] <cjwatson> it's 23:30 here, if I don't respond or fix it or something, sure, reopen it
[12:32] <mebrown> ok.
[12:33] <mebrown> british time?
[12:34] <cjwatson> yes
[12:34] <mebrown> ok. Well, have a great weekend.
[12:35] <mebrown> send me an email if you need anything.
[12:35] <cjwatson> ok
[12:35] <mebrown> I have this issue and iirc one other one that are important to me to get the Dell install going
[12:35] <mebrown> https://bugs.launchpad.net/dell/+bug/149582
[12:35] <mebrown> is the other critical one.
[12:35] <mebrown> for the installer
[12:36] <cjwatson> yeah, you mentioned that, I'll look at the same time
[12:36] <mebrown> If you need anything from me, I'll be checking email this weekend. I know you are in the last few days worth of changes before the release.
[12:36] <cjwatson> I have a lingering suspicion it's because you're preseeding the username and full name when that's not necessary
[12:36] <cjwatson> (or shouldn't be anyway)
[12:36] <cjwatson> but I can't think of a reason why that would actually break this
[12:36] <mebrown> ok. If it isnt needed, I can just as easily take it out.
[12:36] <mebrown> just remove the value, or the entire line?
[12:37] <cjwatson> leave it there for now
[12:37] <cjwatson> maybe it's a generic bug, in which case I can squash it
[12:37] <mebrown> ok.
[12:38] <cjwatson> Spanish is a good test case BTW, because its oem-config translation is complete
[12:38] <cjwatson> the translation team was nice and speedy
[12:38] <mebrown> Well, I'm going now. Let me know if you need anything from my side. You have my preseed.
[12:38] <mebrown> Yeah,
[12:38] <mebrown> I'm considering changing my desktop to spanish by default
[12:38] <mebrown> to get more practise
[12:39] <mebrown> just noticed testing today that there werent very many untranslated strings around the desktop at all
[12:39] <mebrown> (as compared to, say, chinese)
[12:39] <mebrown> ttfn.
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[01:17] <xivulon> cjwatson,evand I am out of ideas with the mkfs bug
[01:18] <xivulon> to make a long story short, if I pause at the end of autopartition-loop and run strace mkfs.ext3 /dev/loop2 it works
[01:18] <xivulon> if run mkfs without strace it doesn't
[01:18] <xivulon> any hint of what I may try?
[02:12] <cjwatson> xivulon: sorry, I have no bright ideas, sounds like a race but who knows
[02:13] <CIA-18> ubiquity: cjwatson * r2324 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog scripts/install.py):
[02:13] <CIA-18> ubiquity: * Remove excessive blank lines in GDM and KDM configuration files in OEM
[02:13] <CIA-18> ubiquity:  mode.
[02:29] <xivulon> cjwatson is the update of ntfs-3g going to happen? maybe that can address it (hmm might test that)
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[01:36] <J-Georg_> Morning.
[01:38] <J-Georg_> I have a grub-related problem installing Ubuntu, could anyone help me a little?
[01:38] <CIA-18> oem-config: cjwatson * r365 oem-config/ (debian/changelog lib/frontend/gtk_ui.py):
[01:38] <CIA-18> oem-config: * GTK frontend:
[01:38] <CIA-18> oem-config:  - Make sure the next button remains the default widget despite being
[01:38] <CIA-18> oem-config:  hidden and re-shown.
[01:39] <cjwatson> J-Georg_: it's a weekend and I was mostly planning to do other things; if you explain your problem and hang around for a bit, I or somebody may be able to
[01:40] <J-Georg_> Ok, the installation just fails to grub-install (hd0). The root partition is an ext3 at /dev/sda5 and if I chroot to /target and try to do it by hand it fails with "/boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly."
[01:41] <J-Georg_> I had to create menu.lst by myself as it didn't exist.
[01:41] <J-Georg_> I was browsing the forums and checked fstab and mtab as suggested but they look fine to me.
[01:41] <cjwatson> just one disk?
[01:42] <J-Georg_> Yes.
[01:42] <J-Georg_> device.map looks ok as well...
[01:44] <cjwatson> normally that error is because fstab and menu.lst are out of sync (and beware that grub counts partition numbers from zero not from one)
[01:45] <cjwatson> but it's possible that it could also be because grub's internal low-level read-stuff-from-the-disk code is breaking
[01:45] <cjwatson> which is liable to be beyond me :-/
[01:45] <J-Georg_> Right...
[01:45] <J-Georg_> I'll take another look at fstab and menu.lst
[01:46] <cjwatson> I'm sorry that may not be a very satisfying answer
[01:46] <cjwatson> in extremis, you could try installing lilo
[01:46] <CIA-18> ubiquity: cjwatson * r2325 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/frontend/gtk_ui.py):
[01:46] <CIA-18> ubiquity: * GTK frontend:
[01:46] <CIA-18> ubiquity:  - Make sure the next button remains the default widget despite being
[01:46] <CIA-18> ubiquity:  hidden and re-shown.
[01:47] <J-Georg_> In fstab /dev/sda5 was identified by UUID. Changed it to /dev/sda5, it didn't help.
[01:47] <J-Georg_> In menu.lst root is set to (hd0,4)
[01:48] <cjwatson> if you want to try to dig into exactly what's failing, there should be log and image files left over from grub-install's attempts to read back stage1 lying around in /tmp
[01:49] <cjwatson> it copies the files to /boot/grub/ and then tries to read them back using the 'dump' command in the grub shell, then does a binary compare to ensure they're the same
[01:49] <cjwatson> I trust you don't have a separate /boot?
[01:49] <J-Georg_> No, it's on the same sda5
[01:49] <cjwatson> the other problem you *could* be having is that maybe you have a sufficiently wacky BIOS that grub is having trouble reading from the logical partition
[01:50] <cjwatson> might be worth trying to put a small /boot on a primary partition if possible
[01:50] <cjwatson> also, put /boot near the start of the disk
[01:50] <cjwatson> depending on the vintage and bugginess of the BIOS, it may have trouble reading from later in the disk
[01:51] <J-Georg_> Ok. Now I can see in the tmp file that:
[01:51] <J-Georg_> Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition
[01:51] <J-Georg_> As a result to dump command.
[01:52] <cjwatson> 17 : Cannot mount selected partition
[01:52] <cjwatson>      This error is returned if the partition requested exists, but the
[01:52] <cjwatson>      filesystem type cannot be recognized by GRUB.
[01:52] <cjwatson> interesting
[01:52] <J-Georg_> Wait a little...
[01:52] <J-Georg_> let me check fdisk output
[01:53] <J-Georg_> /dev/sda5 xxxx xxxxx   xxxxxxxx 7 HPFS/NTFS
[01:53] <J-Georg_> Shouldn't it be Linux?
[01:54] <J-Georg_> Or doesn't it matter if fstab says it's ext3?
[01:55] <cjwatson> that does matter
[01:56] <J-Georg_> Well, changing id
[01:56] <cjwatson> or at least it certainly could matter, ext2fs_mount does check that
[01:56] <cjwatson> interesting how it got that way - I'd like to see your installation logs
[01:57] <cjwatson> (/var/log/syslog and /var/log/partman if you're still in the installer)
[01:57] <cjwatson> if you could try to copy those out before you finish the installation and reboot, I'd appreciate it
[01:57] <J-Georg_> Already rebooted...
[01:57] <J-Georg_> Sry.
[01:57] <cjwatson> damn
[01:57] <cjwatson> are they in /var/log/installer/ ?
[01:58] <cjwatson> I guess you've probably trashed them now so I won't be able to figure out why this happened :-/
[01:58] <cjwatson> if you were using the alternate installer, there's a chance they might still be there
[01:58] <J-Georg_> Well, the partitioning was done in Windows.
[01:58] <J-Georg_> Hence the NTFS setting.
[01:58] <cjwatson> ah
[01:59] <J-Georg_> Ubuntu installer didn't complain about it and created ext3 happily on it.
[01:59] <cjwatson> could you file a bug on partman-base? (that may not be the right package but it's a start)
[01:59] <J-Georg_> But failed at the grub stage.
[01:59] <cjwatson> and explain the situation
[01:59] <J-Georg_> Ok.
[01:59] <cjwatson> were you using the alternate install CD or the desktop CD?
[01:59] <cjwatson> feel free to just paste this whole IRC log into the bug
[01:59] <J-Georg_> Desktop CD.
[01:59] <cjwatson> ok
[02:00] <J-Georg_> Ok, trying to install again now with right ID.
[02:00] <J-Georg_> It's AMD 64 install cd.
[02:00] <cjwatson> that shouldn't matter
[02:00] <J-Georg_> Ok.
[02:01] <J-Georg_> Thanks for guidance, anyway :)
[02:02] <J-Georg_> The hint about tmp files was very helpful :)
[02:06] <cjwatson> should probably copy the grub log output to the syslog
[02:06] <cjwatson> this is weird, it definitely tries to set the partition id
[02:08] <cjwatson> J-Georg_: did you use automatic partitioning?
[02:08] <cjwatson> I guess not if you did the partitioning in Windows
[02:08] <cjwatson> J-Georg_: perhaps you could describe to the best of your memory exactly what you did in the partitioner
[02:09] <J-Georg_> Used manual partitioning.
[02:16] <cjwatson> J-Georg_: any more detail?
[02:16] <CIA-18> oem-config: cjwatson * r366 oem-config/debian/ (59 files in 2 dirs): * Update translations from Rosetta.
[02:17] <CIA-18> oem-config: cjwatson * r367 oem-config/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog):
[02:17] <CIA-18> oem-config: * Automatic update of included source packages: user-setup 1.14ubuntu4
[02:17] <CIA-18> oem-config:  (LP: #149582).
[02:20] <CIA-18> oem-config: cjwatson * r368 oem-config/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.22
[02:26] <J-Georg_> Right...
[02:27] <J-Georg_> It still doesn't work...
[02:27] <J-Georg_> Wait a little...
[02:27] <J-Georg_> I changed the partition Id but it's again HPFS/NTFS...
[02:27] <J-Georg_> Weird...
[02:28] <cjwatson> remember to save the logs this time, please
[02:28] <cjwatson> I'm off to do other things for a while (comment about weekend above :-))
[02:28] <J-Georg_> Ok, thanks anyway.
[02:29] <J-Georg_> There's only version file in /var/log/installer
[02:35] <cjwatson> /var/log/syslog and /var/log/partman are the ones you want before reboot
[02:35] <cjwatson> they're only copied into /var/log/installer/ right at the end
[02:42] <J-Georg_> Ok.
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[09:33] <xivulon> cjwatson, the only way to go around the mkfs issue is to run mkfs on the file and not on the loopdevice (no need to detach the loopdevice)
[09:33] <xivulon> how difficult would that be to override the current partman behaviour?
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