=== tgm4883_laptop_ [n=tgm4883@94.sub-75-216-199.myvzw.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [01:21] anyone help with cached support with 2 sources with lineup === pdragon is now known as pdragon|games [02:05] superm1, you around? === DaveMorris [n=dave@host-212-158-244-26.bulldogdsl.com] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] [02:27] tgm4883_laptop_, want to know something sad? [02:28] tonight is the first time I have used MythDVD for the first time since I built this machine [02:29] anyone have the URL of that article directhex wrote? [02:33] pdragon|games, google mythbuntu beta [02:33] it's on there somewhere [02:34] foxbuntu, does it work? [02:36] so... [02:37] wow, timestamps were way off, nevermind [02:42] yeah, i can't find it. happen to even remember which website the article was written for? [02:44] http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=10005 [02:44] booya [02:45] i'm that good [02:45] I searched for [02:45] mythbuntu chimney [02:45] bah... i knew it had hex in it [02:45] hah... i would've never thought of that [02:45] i remembered the word chimney from the article [02:45] thanks! [02:47] back to WoW === MythbuntuGuest28 [n=Mythbunt@12-216-73-4.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === MythbuntuGuest09 [n=Mythbunt@12-216-73-4.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === MythbuntuGuest09 [n=Mythbunt@12-216-73-4.client.mchsi.com] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] [03:12] Stupid simple question, but I'm unable to view videos on myth (using mplayer) that I can view using totem (from gnome) === ElPop1 [n=paul@modemcable025.230-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === ElPop1 [n=paul@modemcable025.230-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] [04:51] troy_s, any luck with that === DiggThis [n=anon@123-2-145-209.static.dsl.dodo.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [05:02] Hi superm1 [05:03] can anyone tell me after installing mythbuntu i get a zen command line then ata 7 saying irq_stat, connection status changed. What does this mean? [05:14] foxbuntu: Not yet... I would need to compile in the binary blob drivers... [05:14] foxbuntu: I probably should do that so that we can start the rather massive theming. [05:14] troy_s, indeed [05:14] foxbuntu: In your eyes, what would the priority be -- theme the MythTV interface probably seems logical (and a monumental task really) then provide a desktop wallpaper and minimalist xfce theme [05:14] I am working on like 3 things now too [05:14] lol [05:14] foxbuntu: Does that make sense to you? [05:14] never ending cycle [05:15] foxbuntu: yeah but it is all for the better... the better people can make things for others, the more our community grows. [05:16] troy_s, I think if we can spit out a desktop wall paper and get in contact to get the USplash done while we work on the MythTV theme [05:16] have either of you tried to install Mythbuntu on a system with 256mb ram? [05:17] MitoTranin, no, but it should work (slow) [05:17] I'm having problems with it locking up at the 94% mark, (where it says "checking for packages to remove") and I was wondering if it had to do with that [05:17] foxbuntu: what was that cd repo bug you were talking about before? [05:18] foxbuntu: Yes... the usplash will require some animation and such. [05:18] foxbuntu: Which will take a little time then code. Not a huge deal. [05:20] troy_s, those two items are a pending nasty on my list, the MythTV Theme can get pushed back a little more to complete them [05:23] foxbuntu: well yeah... the whole thing won't come together until we are further along. Probably better to just use placeholder bits that are acceptable until then. [05:23] foxbuntu: In plain language -- a crappy Ubuntu progress bar etc. [05:23] foxbuntu: The animation and such will take some thinking and design. I have a pretty good idea where i would like to take it but it will still take time to animate. [05:24] foxbuntu: The default wallpaper is probably going to be very 1950 -- as in a repeated television motif and the 1950 atomic era small rubber bandy loops repeated. [05:25] foxbuntu: In my eyes, the most important part of the presentation is the actual MythTV theme... I want that to be as top shelf as possible and as embroiled in the design theme as it can get. I don't expect that to be easy as we will be wrestling with the button look versus font rendering on the fly etc. [05:26] troy_s, exactly. You are dead on as usual. [05:27] foxbuntu: You can code correct? [05:27] yup [05:27] the USplash animation I have no idea [05:28] you said you have someone for that however right? [05:28] foxbuntu: that might be useful in terms of fixing usplash. Apparently the code (as per seveas) is in place for the autodetection of widescreens. My gut tells me that the ratio (16x10 over 16x9) is too low and therefore is selecting the 4x5 ratio usplash. [05:29] foxbuntu: if we can look into that, it might be a quick fix and something that aesthetically would benefit much of the Ubuntu platform. [05:29] foxbuntu: and yes, tonic-pushcart is a usplash wizard as well as a top shelf guy. He might be able to help out this project, and if he is too busy, he can probably get you up to speed very quickly. His code is clean and well commented too. [05:30] troy_s, the issue with that is the data provided to the video card about TV's via their connection type. There is no industry standard for it [05:32] foxbuntu: I think it might be possible to fix it... seveas seems to think it is probably because 16x10 is the reported res and 16x9 is closer to the 4x3 ratio. === superm1 walks in the roome unannounced [05:32] foxbuntu, what'd you need? [05:33] (all of this aspect ratio stuff really needs to be resolved in a graceful way from a higher level really -- along with a standard 'orgin' point that doesn't move so that people can design for both ratios using a center anchor or something) [05:34] troy_s, agreed. I will look at it as we get closer to that [05:37] superm1: installing prop vid drivers on mythbuntu causes so much havoc that reinstall has to be done!! [05:37] DiggThis, huh? [05:37] why? [05:37] it should work as of beta [05:39] ive now tried it in installation mode and in desktop mode and both times the system becomes unusable by dropping to command line and spitting out irq_stat connection status changed errors. it really sux [05:39] DiggThis, that doesn't sound like a misinstallation [05:39] DiggThis, did you check out the logs? [05:39] /var/log/messages [05:39] /var/log/syslog [05:39] /var/log/Xorg.0.log* [05:40] cant actually get into the syste, [05:40] system [05:40] single user mode even? [05:40] ill try recovery give me a sec [05:42] no recovery spits out that garbage as well... [05:43] unusable system!! [05:43] something really messed up must be going on with your system [05:43] if that's happening [05:43] because the proprietary drivers dont get loaded in single user mode [05:44] thats what i figured but vesa works fine which is weird but prop no === Tari [n=Tari@CPE-72-133-204-1.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Coded1 [n=user@CPE000c41762708-CM001225009578.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [05:44] but i mean in single user mode it doesnt even load vesa [05:44] so something else must have occurred here [05:44] for things to break [05:44] am i doomed to never have prop drivers? [05:45] all i get is some line saying zen then a randon number then irq_ [05:45] stat then connection changed [05:46] are you sure that is the *only* thing you changed [05:46] when you rebooted? [05:46] positive did it on purpose [05:46] any odd hardware in the machine? [05:46] is this amd64? [05:47] opened fine in vesa then when i went to install prop driver and reboot - nothing. [05:47] well single user mode brings you right to a console though [05:47] on it it a core 2 duo [05:47] so i dont know how this can be possible [05:47] could it be ahci but i dont think so though [05:47] ? [05:47] you can mess with io apic and acpi options [05:47] for boot parameters [05:48] but they shouldn't have changed o [05:48] you sure that you're not at a console in single user mode? [05:48] that it just hangs? [05:48] eg hit enter and see if you really do have a prompt [05:48] i mean it is a dual boot and vista works great but mythbuntu no after prop driver install [05:49] a prompt comes up when i press enter but it does not stop and starts spitting again [05:49] okay can you ssh in? === dwf_starband [n=dwf@vsat-148-64-71-3.c119.t7.mrt.starband.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [05:49] and did you install the 64 bit version or 32 bit version on your c2d [05:49] have not tried [05:50] well the only way your going to get at the logs it sounds like is via ssh [05:50] to find out what is really happening here [05:50] wouldnt even know where to start with ssh [05:50] ssh user@machine [05:50] and then those exact places i said [05:50] /var/log/syslog [05:50] /var/log/Xorg.0.log [05:50] /var/log/messages [05:50] dmesg [05:50] from network or same computer? [05:51] network [05:51] a linux network or can it be windows as well? [05:51] you can do it from windows if you use putty [05:51] or cygwin [05:51] which is better? [05:51] easier? [05:53] putty is easier [05:53] k [05:53] ill download now and get back in 5 mins [06:00] superm1: update - impossible to do cause network card not activated in 'spit out' modes [06:00] any other suggestions? [06:00] DiggThis, boot into normal mode [06:00] and the network will activate in the background [06:01] ill try it [06:01] With MythTV, if the capture card has an encoder can a p3 665mhz with 384mb of ram capture and view live tv? [06:02] probably stuggle playing it back [06:02] you'll have to try though [06:02] ok thanks, im still playing with it on my main computer, just wondering about my options [06:03] dwf_starband, not even necessarily live struggle [06:03] just in general [06:04] might struggle showing any video? [06:04] yeah [06:04] unless you have hardware decoding [06:04] via like an nvidia card [06:04] ok, thanks, i have an nvidia card, does it have hardware decoding? [06:04] is there a way to connect the vga port on a laptop to component on my hd-tv? [06:05] not easily, I don't think [06:05] yeah there are ways [06:05] but like Tari said [06:06] there are standalone converters you can buy [06:07] superm1, I had no idea glade3 exsited [06:07] foxbuntu, what you mean? [06:07] for building those glade tads [06:07] tabs* [06:07] how do you think it was done [06:07] haha [06:07] cool, I have a p4 laptop with an ati card, right now i have it connected to my 360 as a media server running xp/tversity, i wanna change to linux since ive been getting kinda used to it [06:07] I was doing it by hand [06:08] seriously....that blew goats [06:08] haha funny foxbuntu [06:08] is there a way to set up a media streaming server to an xbox? [06:09] using myth? [06:09] Coded1, myth supports some upnp stuff [06:09] but i've never worked with it [06:09] you can check on the upstream mythtv wiki, mythtv-users mailing list and irc channel #mythtv-users for more info about it === dwf_starband [n=dwf@vsat-148-64-71-3.c119.t7.mrt.starband.net] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] [06:10] you think a p4 could upscale SD/DIVX well to 1080p? [06:10] well it could, but an easy method to do that is going to be more of your trouble [06:10] it would be a dedicated server [06:10] superm1, I can't get the code to run my subtab [06:10] and I built it with glade [06:10] foxbuntu, you have to attach a signal [06:11] to the main button? [06:11] look at the signals done by the other tabs [06:11] on the main glade file [06:11] the mcc glade? [06:11] you can click each tab button and figure out what signals it emits [06:11] Coded1: realtime? [06:11] ok [06:12] Coded1: I would think if it were on card, possibly... off card seems unlikely. [06:12] superm1, I already have the button set to tab_change [06:12] however not clear [06:12] troy_s: not necessarily maybe off by a couple of seconds or so [06:12] after the debuild and install...it just crashes [06:13] well it sounds like you broke something then :) [06:13] thanks for the help [06:13] well publish your branch to your launchpad user [06:13] as usual...smart remarks instead of smart answers [06:13] i'll look at it [06:14] lol [06:14] ok [06:14] this is why i told you to do it in a sep branch, i had a feeling things would break :) [06:14] since I did bzr branch when i bzr commit does it stick it in mine only then? [06:14] as far as i can tell the main parts will be a function to connect the pc/360 and another to transcode the files, i dont mind using the 360 interface [06:14] yeah [06:14] foxbuntu, ^ [06:14] ok [06:15] Coded1, i'm really not sure about how the streaming to a 360 works [06:17] uh... superm1 it said it went to the master [06:17] superm1: finally an update for you...EH complete and soft resetting port and sata link down in syslog and messages and in dmesg also in xorg fatal error no screens found error [06:17] foxbuntu, if you bzr branch'ed master is local [06:17] when you bzr commit [06:17] if you bzr bind though, then it binds to master [06:18] but it showed up in launchpad now too [06:18] um [06:18] then you must have branched wrong [06:18] I did bzr branch to the master [06:18] you did bzr branch http://blah here [06:18] branch to master??? [06:18] what? [06:18] right [06:18] ^^ [06:18] then bzr commit doesn't push [06:18] bzr bind causes it to push [06:18] or bzr co does [06:19] uh oh crap [06:19] thats what i did wrong [06:19] what does this all mean superm1? [06:19] what did you do? [06:19] i did a bind earlier [06:19] wack that rev then [06:19] um [06:19] can I break the bind [06:19] bzr unbind i think [06:20] k [06:20] binding to a branch controls where it pushes [06:20] so don't do that [06:21] the commit should be very very fast when your not bound anywhere [06:22] superm1: any idea what is going on? [06:22] DiggThis, the sata link being down, you sure your hardware is good? [06:22] and the error in xorg, can you paste bin xorg [06:23] superm1, ok that time it just coomited and didnt push [06:23] now what do I do with it? [06:23] superm1: k ill pastebin xorg. sata is fine in vista why does it play up in mythbuntu? [06:23] push it to a local branch at bzr+ssh://user@bazaar.launchpad.net/~user/mythbuntu/mythbuntu-control-centre [06:24] DiggThis, just asking if you know the hardware is fine [06:25] As far as i know all works good. all is new hardware and works fine in vista. How do i double-check hardware? [06:26] DiggThis, run hardware tests on it all [06:26] i suspect you had these hardware errors before the proprietary drivers were installed though [06:26] just you are seeing them when something goes wrong with the proprietary drivers because your looking at logs === dwf_starband [n=dwf@vsat-148-64-71-3.c119.t7.mrt.starband.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [06:28] how do i run hardware test? [06:28] DiggThis, that is more than i'm going to go into in this channel [06:29] pastebin the xorg log [06:29] fair enough [06:29] and we'll go from ther [06:29] k [06:32] superm1, ok its up [06:32] foxbuntu, i'm still trying to uncommit your old revision [06:32] doesnt want to do so [06:33] i found my answer, [06:33] A Pentium Celeron 600 MHz with a PVR-150 can record and playback MPEG-2 material simultaneously. [06:33] does this sound right? [06:33] sorry... foxbuntu + beer != good results in code [06:33] off of the mythtv wiki [06:34] dwf_starband, you won't know for sure until you try [06:34] um foxbuntu its not listed here https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~nickj-fox/ [06:34] if it works as a frontend viewing, then it shouldnt have trouble should it? [06:34] well I did exactly as you said that time [06:34] wth tho..its on the main trunk again [06:35] ....arg... [06:35] foxbuntu, you didn't put the ~user did you [06:35] when you did bzr push [06:36] as in bzr push bzr+ssh://user@bazaar.launchpad.net/~user/mythbuntu/mythbuntu-control-centre [06:36] that would have registered your branch and gotten it put in the right place [06:36] oh man...I am retarded tonight [06:36] omg this branch has gotten way out of control [06:36] I didn't put user in [06:36] you've got a ton of crap in it now [06:37] what do you mean? [06:37] i sh**& the debuild garbage is in there [06:37] all of these binary files are added, all the properteis changed again [06:37] debian/stamp-makefile-build [06:37] debian/mythbuntu-control-centre/usr/share/pycentral/mythbuntu-control-centre/site-packages/mythbuntu_control_centre-0.0.0.egg-info [06:37] ... [06:37] there isn't supposed to be a debian/files [06:37] EVERY single file changed properties [06:37] wtf did you do? [06:38] i didnt do anything to perms [06:38] I did everything as non-root === dwf_starband [n=dwf@vsat-148-64-71-3.c119.t7.mrt.starband.net] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] [06:38] well in your bzr commit did you not see all these files marked different [06:38] and all these added files? [06:38] I was not looking closly.. [06:38] arg [06:38] just delete it all [06:38] and I will do the same [06:39] well i'm having a hard time uncommiting the branch [06:39] stop pushing to it okay? [06:39] until a day where I am less retarded [06:39] please [06:39] I am not pushing [06:43] well you can push to your own LP id okay? [06:43] so i can look *there* [06:43] superm1, I will clean it up and get that up [06:43] foxbuntu, i've uncommited your last two changes locally, i'm just trying to push them === foxbuntu slaps himself so superm1 doesn't have to [06:43] (and failing with that) [06:45] superm1, it tells me my user location is not a branch [06:46] paste the exact command you were doing [06:46] bzr bind bzr+ssh://nickj-fox@bazaar.launchpad.net/~nickj-fox/mythbuntu/mythbuntu-control-centre [06:46] NO [06:46] no bind [06:46] dont bind [06:47] push [06:47] that's *it* [06:47] ... [06:47] you can bind to your own branch later if you want, but to initialize a branch you need to bzr push === hugolp [n=tu@89.131.10.145] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === troy_s [n=troy_s@d206-116-6-170.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [06:49] superm1, can't I just do a clean with debuild? [06:49] yeah you can [06:49] the important part is that no files are added to the commit [06:50] well I need to clean it first [06:51] I want to kill all the debuild junk in here b4 I push and be retarded some more [06:51] well debuild clean will do that [06:51] have you been typing debuild as root? [06:51] or something like that [06:52] no [06:52] I did the bzr branch and everything as non-root [06:54] okay the main branch has been reverted [06:54] that was way more trouble than it should have been [06:57] superm1, I cant see the screen anymore...time to stop working on thsi for now...I will catch you later so I don't hose anything else up [06:57] I seriously cant read the irc window right now [06:57] night [06:57] foxbuntu, if you can at least push things somewhere in your local branch [06:57] lata [06:57] i can look at that though [06:57] can you get that far or not? [06:57] I can't read the irc and my term is smaller === thoroth [n=rol@chello062178111049.10.12.vie.surfer.at] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [06:58] I will push it and come back to it tomorrow [06:58] okay [06:58] later [06:58] cya [07:05] New bug: #149702 in mythbuntu "no menu text with low resolution" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/149702 [07:10] superm1: sorry for taking so long pastebin url is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39736/ [07:10] please help me!! [07:12] DiggThis, can you pastebin your xorg.conf too? [07:12] lets see one thing in there [07:12] ok one min [07:13] where is that file located> === Coded1 [n=user@CPE000c41762708-CM001225009578.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #ubuntu-mythtv ["Kopete] [07:13] ? [07:13] /etc/X11 [07:13] k [07:13] that Xorg.0.log is telling me that you found a different bug though, that BulletProofX isn't working [07:16] done url is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39737/ [07:16] please help [07:17] okay so you're actually using an ati card then [07:17] try commenting out line 66 [07:17] and restarting [07:18] ok [07:20] DiggThis, are you sure that your card is even supported by fglrx? [07:21] dont know its a brand new card [07:22] rebooting... [07:22] brand new card... [07:22] okay well you might have your problem laid out right there [07:23] superm1: you got a sec? [07:23] line 66 comment out not working [07:24] DiggThis, checkout if you have a /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old then [07:24] MitoTranin, sure [07:24] so my card is too new then? [07:24] ill check [07:24] superm1: remember my lockup at 94% bug that you said was why the release is the 10/02 release instead of the 10/01 release? [07:24] how do I get around it? I still can't get an install to finish [07:24] DiggThis, that's what i suspect, hopefully that log will prove that [07:25] and if I start ssh or terminal or something before my install starts, I can't even get the installer to respond [07:25] MitoTranin, you did eventually grab the 10/01 release right? [07:25] MitoTranin, you did eventually grab the 10/02 release right? [07:25] superm1: i have it [07:25] that is [07:25] DiggThis, post that [07:25] let me take a look at it [07:25] k [07:25] I've never had anything but the 10/02 release [07:25] (I didn't know about Mythbuntu until the 1st, so I just waited...) [07:26] hrm [07:26] well the thing is the workaround is mastered into the disk [07:26] so there are no "other" workarounds to try really [07:26] don't get me wrong... I like what I see.... (otherwise you guys wouldn't be using my hosting as a mirror :) ) [07:27] you can attempt to not make any packaging changes [07:27] but I just can't get it installed! [07:27] lol [07:27] so dont choose proprietary drivers [07:27] or change anythign but remote [07:27] during install [07:27] and see how that works through [07:27] I can try that [07:27] I always do set it to the proprietary drivers, so I can have tv-out [07:28] yeah. you can do that post install if it comes to it [07:28] is there a way to install them after the install? [07:28] cool, that's what I thought [07:29] superm1: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39739/ hopefully you can get to the source of the prob [07:30] DiggThis, you have a HD 2600XT don't you. [07:30] exactly [07:30] ha [07:30] i figured as much [07:30] okay so the problem is this [07:31] the 8.41.6 driver came out officially a few weeks ago [07:31] it is the minimum driver you need for that card [07:31] crap [07:31] but the problem is [07:31] it cant be included by default in ubuntu [07:31] because it breaks functionality of a few other cards [07:31] you can install it locally if you'd like [07:31] just my luck [07:31] how do i do it? [07:33] DiggThis, more or less its a matter of following this: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide [07:33] in "method 2" [07:33]