[12:20] <tepsipakki> oh bummer, archive frozen
[12:20] <bryce> yeah just saw that
[12:20] <bryce> work through slangasek 
[12:21] <tepsipakki> and I was looking for more bugs to close with this
[12:21] <tepsipakki> duh
[12:21] <tepsipakki> I will
[12:24] <bryce> <slangasek> bryce: "freeze" only means "release team reviews and judges"; if they're high priority updates, upload them :)
[12:24] <bryce> tepsipakki: so I got a pre-okay for you for the -ati upload :-)
[12:25] <tepsipakki> woohoo \o/
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[12:28] <tepsipakki> ok, I got a nice inter-dep chain of the patches: 02 -> 03 -> 07 -> 09
[12:29] <tepsipakki> and 05 -> 09
[12:30] <tepsipakki> so now they are all covered; they either fix bugs or are required for a later patch :)
[12:30] <tormod> tepsipakki, I was thinking making an upstream patch for that rs482/5 thing
[12:31] <tepsipakki> tormod: cool
[12:31] <tormod> pre-okay \o/
[12:36] <tepsipakki> ok, final check for the diff: http://users.tkk.fi/~tjaalton/dpkg/ati/ati.debdiff
[12:36] <tepsipakki> patch 10 should be under [tormod volden]  though :P
[12:38] <bryce> (LP: 132716) -> (LP: #132716)
[12:38] <tormod> heh all those prerequisites, you could make a graphical map to explain this :)
[12:38] <bryce> heh no kidding
[12:38] <tepsipakki> bryce: damn, will fix
[12:39] <bryce> I sort of wonder if listing them in reverse would be better so the fixes are at the top.  ;-)  but I think it should be fine like this; at least it will be clear that the patches are necessary and not just extras along for the ride
[12:39] <tepsipakki> also pre-req -> prereq
[12:40] <tepsipakki> bryce: right, I'll just make more errors if I start shuffling them around :)
[12:40] <bryce> patch 04 doesn't list as a prereq nor as a bug fix
[12:41] <tepsipakki> true, I'll add an explanation
[12:41] <bryce> otherwise, changelog looks good
[12:42] <bryce> should I review the patches themselves?  I assume they're all tested and good.
[12:42] <tepsipakki> well, they are upstream, so.. :)
[12:43] <bryce> heh, we all trust alex
[12:43] <tepsipakki> blindly
[12:44] <tepsipakki> not!
[12:44] <tormod> we have no choice :)
[12:44] <bryce> :-)
[12:45] <ubotu> New bug: #149639 in xorg (main) "Xorg crashes very frequently" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149639
[12:45] <tormod> seriously, they have been tested on quite a number of cards.
[12:53] <tepsipakki> ok, diff updated, now chat with RM ->
[12:56] <tormod> I made that upstream patch, but now n
[12:56] <tormod> now bugs.fd.o is failing...
[12:57] <tepsipakki> typical
[12:58] <tormod> alex is back in #xorg-devel
[01:02] <tepsipakki> yes, and ati uploaded
[01:02] <tepsipakki> tormod: will you poke him?
[01:03] <tepsipakki> bryce: I milestoned all the bugs that this upload should fix
[01:03] <tepsipakki> five of them
[01:04] <bryce> great
[01:09] <tormod> tepsipakki: I poked alex
[01:09] <tepsipakki> tormod: yep, thanks
[01:26] <ubotu> New bug: #44792 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "Fixed resolution usign ati driver with Radeon 7500SE" [Medium,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/44792
[01:40] <tepsipakki> hmm, ati bug count soon below 100 (105 now)
[01:40] <bryce> yay!
[01:42] <bryce> hmm, I see 125
[01:43] <tepsipakki> uh, so do I now
[01:43] <tepsipakki> maybe it's b.e.lp.net playing tricks
[01:44] <tepsipakki> sort by recently changed
[01:45] <tepsipakki> actually, it doesn't matter what sort method to use, they all list 20 less
[01:45] <bryce> huh, weird
[01:45] <tepsipakki> yeah.. well, it'll get below 120 anyway :)
[01:46] <bryce> :-)
[01:49] <tepsipakki> anyway, bedtime. good night!
[01:50] <ubotu> New bug: #149653 in xorg (main) "Xorg crash with xrandr1.2 and dual screens with compiz" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149653
[01:55] <bryce> night
[01:56] <bryce> tepsipakki: if you're not yet asleep, I have a quetion on bug 126425
[01:56] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 126425 in xorg-server "Intel driver (using EXA) crashes system when starting compiz" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/126425
[01:56] <bryce> they propose dropping patch 120 from xserver; I was wondering why we are carrying it.
[02:03] <tormod> tepsipakki: I just reported that sorting issue to launchpad this morning
[02:03] <tormod> good night I guess :)
[02:05] <tormod> I am off to bed as well. Cool that we got that far with the ati driver tonight!
[02:16] <tormod> 6.7.194-1ubuntu2 got through! that was fast
[02:20] <tormod> good night
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[02:23] <bryce> awesome, good work you two!
[02:41] <bryce> and just now of course alex released 6.7.195 ;-)
[02:51] <ubotu> New bug: #40249 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (main) "Laptop test: touchpad scroll on Dell Inspiron 600m doesn't work" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/40249
[02:56] <ubotu> New bug: #149662 in xorg (main) "Upgrade to Kubuntu 7.10 beta in Spanish fails to get some .deb's" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149662
[04:41] <ubotu> New bug: #149684 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-13-generic is not available and makes boot finish on failsafe x interface" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149684
[06:50] <ubotu> New bug: #149700 in xserver-xorg-driver-vmware (main) "Resolution greater than screen resolution used by vmware driver by default" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149700
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[09:02] <tepsipakki> aw dammit, ati failed to build because of a typo in patch 10 I guess.. but we could just as well sync with debian which has .195. delta is small :)
[09:10] <bryce> yup
[09:20] <ubotu> New bug: #149726 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "[Gutsy]  xorg-driver-fglrx: multihead breaks catastrophicly" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149726
[09:24] <bryce> tepsipakki: ok that's permission to upload :-)
[09:45] <ubotu> New bug: #149732 in xorg (main) "After last update,Xorg can't want to start" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149732
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[10:05] <bryce> heya mvo
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[10:11] <tormod> ati 6.7.195-1 is out in Debian...
[10:12] <bryce> maybe we should just sync to that?
[10:13] <bryce> tormod, we have permission from RM to upload 195
[10:13] <tormod> excellent!
[10:13] <bryce> tormod: and unfortunately our -ati upload FTBFS
[10:15] <tormod> oops that bad. it was just happily building when I went to bed.
[10:15] <tormod> did tepsipakki build it himself first?
[10:15] <bryce> not sure, maybe not
[10:16] <bryce> <tepsipakki> aw dammit, ati failed to build because of a typo in patch 10 I guess.. but we could just as well sync with debian which has .195. delta is small :)
[10:17] <tormod> yes that's better. the delta is real small, basically Michel's exa commits.
[10:18] <bryce> :-)
[10:19] <tormod> I was thinking about building test packages of .195, but maybe that's not needed if you just upload it.
[10:20] <bryce> probably not
[10:24] <mvo> hey bryce
[10:25] <bryce> mvo, how goes?  long time no see :-)
[10:26] <mvo> bryce: good, thanks! the usual almost-at-release madness
[10:26] <bryce> yup
[10:27] <bryce> I'm proud of where we're at with gutsy but also know we can do a lot better for hardy
[10:27] <bryce> mvo, fwiw I reinstalled onto an ati laptop recently and was impressed to see compiz come up and "just work"
[10:28] <mvo> bryce: woah, that is cool. it at  a good level currently, I'm quite happy with the status
[10:28] <bryce> you've done a great job at getting compiz ready to go, I'm quite impressed.
[10:29] <bryce> I think gutsy is going to be an upgrade people notice.  :-)
[10:31] <mvo> thanks!
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[11:08] <tormod> bryce, I found a (yet another) bug in xresprobe, and I have a debdiff in bug #148231. It could be that it fixes a lot issues,
[11:08] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 148231 in xresprobe "[gutsy]  bad modes in xorg.conf" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148231
[11:09] <tormod> please take a look and tell me if you want me to fix all the non-vesa cases as well.
[11:15] <tepsipakki> tormod: ouch, that vesa change was mine..
[11:16] <tepsipakki> yep, b0rked sed-line
[11:16] <tormod> tepsipakki: sorry about that ati 10_ patch, I guess I should have tested better, like you ;)
[11:17] <tormod> tepsipakki: almost all the other driver cases have the same "non-robustness"
[11:18] <tepsipakki> no problem, most important that there now is a new release, and jcristau was as fast as always uploading it to experimental :)
[11:18] <jcristau> ;)
[11:19] <tepsipakki> merge done, quick check of the debdiff and then upload
[11:20] <tepsipakki> done
[11:20] <tormod> great
[11:22] <tepsipakki> bryce: I'll check patch 120 now
[11:29] <tepsipakki> ah, that's for making composite faster with current drivers
[11:30] <tepsipakki> without that it would crawl
[11:31] <tepsipakki> but we should evaluate it again when hardy opens, and perhaps enable EXA on some hardware (which would obsolete that hack)
[11:52] <tormod> I added xresprobe improvements for other drivers. Does anyone have a xorg.conf collection for regression testing?
[11:57] <tormod> actually it would be much better to fix the drivers to report this in a consistent way...
[12:00] <ubotu> New bug: #149661 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "[Gutsy]  Update fails to install "linux-restricted-modules-generic"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149661
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[12:40] <ubotu> New bug: #149782 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "linux-restricted-modules missing for 2.6.22-13" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149782
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[02:45] <ubotu> New bug: #130696 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "xine and totem-xine crashes with the fglrx driver" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/130696
[03:31] <ubotu> New bug: #57345 in xorg-server (main) "No devices detected. after update to xserver-xorg-core 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3 (dup-of: 57153)" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/57345
[04:01] <ubotu> New bug: #149850 in xorg (main) "Cannot change resolution in Gutsy LiveCD with Vmware" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149850
[04:30] <ubotu> New bug: #66104 in scim (main) "scim input freezes in various applications" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/66104
[04:30] <ubotu> New bug: #149682 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "kernel crash after logo loadup (dup-of: 149661)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149682
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[05:00] <ubotu> New bug: #149866 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "Open source radeon driver problems" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149866
[05:05] <ubotu> New bug: #149868 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "Open source radeon driver problems" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149868
[06:10] <ubotu> New bug: #149559 in gxine (universe) "Gxine crashes on launch with BadMatch error (dup-of: 130696)" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149559
[07:00] <ubotu> New bug: #146228 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "Gutsy Reboot on Resume, nvidia-glx-new and linux-2.6.22-12" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/146228
[07:45] <ubotu> New bug: #149929 in xorg (main) "X broken by -13 kernel, -12 still OK" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149929
[07:48] <tepsipakki> bah, seems that there are no RM's available to let the new ati through
[09:06] <ubotu> New bug: #149952 in xserver-xorg-video-nv (main) "Gutsy Regression: Nvidia Riva 128 not supported (Cairo errors)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149952
[09:24] <tormod> tepsipakki:  no luck?  it's uploaded but in the review queue?
[09:32] <tepsipakki> tormod: right
[09:35] <tormod> when is the hard freeze?
[09:36] <tepsipakki> no idea..
[09:42] <tormod> the RC release is the 11th, so there should be some days
[10:41] <bryce> tormod, wow yeah I wonder how we hadn't run into issues with those sed lines before
[10:42] <tormod> hi bryce
[10:43] <tormod> yeah it's quite a mess
[10:44] <tormod> bryce: I thought I found another dupe of 127008, but they say it's still broken: bug #128526
[10:44] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 128526 in xresprobe "probing for X, causes scrambled Frame Buffer (dup-of: 127008)" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/128526
[10:44] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 127008 in xresprobe "Alternate install of Tribe-4 corrupts video display when installing packages (affected hardware includes Santa Rosa)" [High,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/127008
[10:54] <bryce> tormod: hmm, I wish solfred had given some details beyond just "still broke"
[10:58] <tormod> you'd expect that to be "exactly same as before" but I am not 100% he's got the same issue as the reporter.
[10:58] <tormod> "same problem" often means "I have a problem too with a similar card" :)
[10:59] <tormod> actually the F4 workaround doesn't work for him, so maybe he's got something else.
[11:18] <bryce> right
[11:18] <bryce> if I had a dollar for every time I heard, "I have the same problem, except I am running a completely different driver, on a different version of Ubuntu"
[11:28] <tepsipakki> bryce: well, X still works even if the modes line has cruft :/
[11:38] <tormod> yes, if no modes are lost, it's maybe no practical problem, just looks stupid
[11:39] <tepsipakki> right :)
[12:00] <ubotu> New bug: #149957 in xorg (main) "Cannot install Gutsy Beta on Samsung R60+" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/149957