[01:59] <Artimus> Is there anything that GNOME specifically offers Edubuntu?  I'm working on a project for school, the target computers are 400mhz with 128mb of ram.  I tried GNOME and KDE, both are obviously too slow to use on these computers.  I'm wondering what (if anything) I can expect to miss from GNOME.  This is specific to Edubuntu, not a general desktop.
[02:11] <ace_suares> lns: huh ? gell for what ?
[02:12] <lns> Artimus, are you using the 400mhz systems as thin-clients or full-blown edubuntu installs?
[02:12] <Artimus> Full Blown
[02:12] <lns> hmm
[02:12] <Artimus> They work fine with XFCE.
[02:12] <lns> i personally wouldn't recommend it
[02:13] <Artimus> hah
[02:13] <lns> i'd def. use xfce in place of gnome
[02:13] <lns> for that low a power
[02:13] <Artimus> Yeah, XFCE runs fine.
[02:13] <lns> but they'd work perfectly as thin clients
[02:13] <ace_suares> !seen ogra
[02:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen ogra - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:14] <lns> Artimus, how many 'target' computers are there?
[02:14] <Artimus> Right now, one.  This is a demo.
[02:14] <lns> ahh
[02:14] <lns> if the demo goes well, how many target computers?
[02:14] <lns> =)
[02:14] <Artimus> Two or three labs of 20 boxes each
[02:15] <Artimus> Still, I doubt that'd happen.
[02:15] <lns> why's that?
[02:15] <Artimus> The Computer Tech is incompetent.
[02:15] <Artimus> A seven year old virus crippled our entire network for two weeks.
[02:16] <lns> haha
[02:16] <lns> so what's your role there?
[02:16] <Artimus> I'm a student.  I'm part of a new project-based class.  Basically "Find something amusing to do", "Do it".  This is a scaled down case study.  I've got one box, I want to install Linux on it and demonstrate it's potential use.
[02:16] <Artimus> One teacher expressed quite a bit more interest than I expected...
[02:17] <lns> nice
[02:17] <lns> yeah, a lot of teachers/educational system types are liking what linux has to offer
[02:17] <lns> i'm currently migrating 6 labs of ~35 computers each to Ubuntu/LTSP
[02:17] <Artimus> This is more of as a desktop.  It'd be a nightmare to integrate...  I hate Novell.
[02:19] <Artimus> I give good odds that I'm going to have to get it on the network.  One day it's "You can't plug it into the network".  The next it's "How are you going to make it work with Netware?"
[02:19] <lns> haha!
[02:19] <lns> wow...people still use netware? ;)
[02:19] <lns> i guess just schools
[02:19] <lns> linux is totally compatible w/nw though
[02:20] <Artimus> Yeah, but I don't want to be the one to do it.
[02:21] <lns> lol
[02:21] <Artimus> Just a simple logon drive that I'd map to home for each student.  There's some printers, not sure how those are shared.
[02:21] <Artimus> Other than that, all there is is to configure the systems to use the webfilter proxy
[02:21] <lns> proxies are easy
[02:22] <lns> it's not a xparent proxy?
[02:22] <Artimus> Nope.
[02:22] <lns> auth?
[02:22] <Artimus> Mandatory proxy 10.1.20.1:8080
[02:22] <Artimus> All non-proxied traffic is dropped.
[02:22] <lns> do you have to auth against it?
[02:22] <Artimus> no
[02:22] <Artimus> Just some environment variables to set
[02:23] <lns> gnome has proxy setup integrated
[02:23] <lns> but i'm sure you can do it at a lower level
[02:23] <lns> any decent browser you use will have a setting
[02:23] <Artimus> yeah, I'd probably set environment variables so all applications pick them up
[02:23] <lns> cool
[02:24] <Artimus> Not that it matters, Firefox is the only thing that needs access to the outside world.
[04:01] <sbalneav> Evening all
[04:11] <LaserJock> hi sbalneav
[04:11] <sbalneav> Evening LaserJock
[04:14] <LaserJock> I finally figured out how to recreate the translated docs
[04:15] <LaserJock> I had to rename the .po files first
[04:23] <sbalneav> Cool
[06:04] <LaserJock> man I wish everybody just spoke English
[06:08] <nixternal> me too
[06:08] <nixternal> actually, I wish I spoke English
[06:14] <LaserJock> this is like packaging from hell trying to get these translations in
[07:19] <LaserJock> sbalneav: alrighty, edubuntu-docs uploaded
[07:19] <LaserJock> I'm hoping that's it
[02:28] <hand_ua> hi everyone!
[02:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi
[02:29] <hand_ua> i installed ltsp server/machines boot via network normally-starts ldm/
[02:30] <hand_ua> but i cannot select desktop managers such as icewm fluxbox
[02:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> hang around, someone else might
[02:31] <hand_ua> you mean that i need try with smth else?
[02:31] <hand_ua> /kdesession conflicts whith dcopserver
[02:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> wait in the channel, hopefully someone who can answer your question will see it
[02:33] <hand_ua> i think so,
[02:42] <hand_ua> is there anybody who has installed/working vertion?
[02:59] <minisrule192> yes
[03:01] <hand_ua> minisrule192, what i need to add for exemple fluxbox starting after login in ldm?
[03:02] <minisrule192> eh?
[03:03] <hand_ua> in ldm  i cannot select type ofsession/only default
[03:05] <minisrule192> ok
[03:07] <hand_ua> but now i think problem is in other/i tried to enter any user/any password - after this ldm restarts,againg & again
[03:09] <hand_ua> in /etc/X11/default-display-manager i set icewm(fluxbox,kde) even dont start xinit
[03:10] <hand_ua> xserver
[04:52] <hand_ua> everything works fine except system logins throught ldm
[04:52] <hand_ua> problem with "ldm" still actual for me
[08:27] <blkdg> hi, i asked in this # many months ago about the error when i launch GCompris from Edbuntu LIVE 6.10.  I was given a fix (something to type into the term) anyhow, I have passed that CD along with the sticky note to someone else.  does asny one know what the fix is?  I have googled this to no end.
[08:27] <blkdg> thanks in advance
[08:29] <blkdg> hello?
[08:43] <blkdg> thanks anyhow
[08:51] <effie_jayx> ogra, ping
[10:50] <effie_jayx> ogra, just to let you know... INTEL contacted the LoCo team contact and they are considering Edubuntu :D. thanks for the heads up