[06:07] <nixternal> finally, a PyQt4 book coming out in a couple of weeks on Amazon.com
[06:17] <robotgeek> nixternal: i'm looking forward to getting that
[06:37] <robotgeek> hmm, kde-guidance was kinda sorta blocking my dist-upgrade
[06:39] <Hobbsee> how so?
[06:39] <Hobbsee> i'm interested in reports about that
[06:39] <Hobbsee> nixternal: poke
[06:45] <Hobbsee> nixternal: how about fixing https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ktorrent/+bug/116905 and https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ktorrent/+bug/116905
[06:45] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 116905 in ktorrent "ktorrent .desktop file is wrong" [Wishlist,Confirmed] 
[06:52] <ScottK> Hobbsee or nixternal: I had removed strigi-daemon from my Gutsy laptop because it's old and slow and weak.  On today's upgrade I got it back (removed it again of course).  Any idea why?
[06:53] <Hobbsee> new version of k-d, i expect
[06:53] <ScottK> That would cause that?  Hmm.
[06:54] <Hobbsee> that'd be my guess.
[06:54] <Hobbsee> hm, my strigi-daemon is here, but doesnt autostart.
[06:59] <Hobbsee> hm, i should run another dist-upgrade, and see what breaks
[06:59] <Hobbsee> robotgeek: what was the breakage?
[07:01] <Hobbsee> oh cool, i seem to have root access in terms of apt on this machine.
[07:07] <Hobbsee> what the...
[10:32] <fdoving> grr.. the new kbluetooth is so !"R%"#% "" slow.
[10:38] <mhb> morning
[01:41] <_StefanS_> that new setting for konversation really got me fooled... it doesnt default to systray anymore
[01:41] <_StefanS_> thought it segfaulted
[03:31] <steveire> ping anyone?
[03:31] <nosrednaekim> pong?
[03:31] <steveire> nosrednaekim: Do you know if the information here about patched qt4 is also relevant to kubuntu? http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4#Qt
[03:32] <nosrednaekim> well, Kubuntu has another whole set of packages for the patched qt
[03:33] <nosrednaekim> its called "qt-kde-copy" or something like that
[03:33] <steveire> nosrednaekim: Yes, libqt4-core-kdecopy. The description says that it conflicts with regular qt4. Does that mean I should uninstall qt4?
[03:34] <nosrednaekim> steveire: its will force it, yes
[03:34] <nosrednaekim> *it
[03:34] <nosrednaekim> but don't worry, the patched has all of the functionality of the regular QT
[03:35] <steveire> nosrednaekim: Do you happen to know how recent the revision is in the package? Is it uptodate with what is in kdesvn?
[03:37] <nosrednaekim> steveire: its pretty close. afaik, the qt-copy is frozen in kdesvn.
[03:39] <steveire> There's -kdecopy versions of libqt4-core libqt4-dev libqt4-gui libqt4-qt3support libqt4-sql and libqt4-debug. Do you know which I should install to get an equivalent to self-compiled?
[03:39] <nosrednaekim> better do all of them
[03:40] <steveire> Last commit was 3 days ago http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/qt-copy/
[03:42] <nosrednaekim> bugs probably.... but I don't THINK it really matters.
[03:45] <nosrednaekim> steveire: you can always ask questions such as this in more knowledgeable channels as #kde and #kde4
[03:45] <steveire> It looks like a packaging issue to me.
[08:23] <vlo> hello here. I have upraded to gutsy, but unfortunately I have run exactly into this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-guidance/+bug/133810
[08:23] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 133810 in kde-guidance "package guidance-backends 0.8.0svn20070727-0ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/apps/guidance/vesamodes', which is also in package kde-guidance" [Medium,Triaged] 
[08:25] <vlo> is there a fix or a workaround ? or somenone who knows what is wrong here ?
[08:32] <hunger> vlo: I'd force-overwrite this using dpkg on the commandline. But then you might want to volunteer as a tester for any updated dpkgs (if there are any yet).
[09:03] <vlo> hunger: I don't think there exists an updated dpkg ... but I would volunteer if there was one of course
[09:27] <hunger> vlo: I don't have that problem... well I probably had it weeks back or something:-)
[09:28] <hunger> vlo: During the WE this is going slow here... You might want to try nagging the devs about this bug here again tomorrow.
[09:29] <hunger> So don't nag me;-)
[09:34] <vlo> thanks hunger, I am going to try the force-overwrite option with dpkg, and if no results wait for tomorrow to come back and ask about that
[09:36] <vlo> well, this allowed me to go on with the upgrade ... so the bug still exits for the package install but at least I can upgrade my whole install now
[09:37] <ryanakca> hmm.. anybody feel like testing something? go to VT1, at the login prompt, hit arrow up several times, so that each time you get a [A, and then hit enter. Are all the consecutive prompts in capitals?
[10:47] <jjesse> hello
[10:48] <jjesse> Tm_T: back still causing problems/
[10:48] <Tm_T> jjesse: always :)
[10:50] <jjesse> it going to ever get better?
[10:50] <Tm_T> who knows
[10:51] <Tm_T> I'm kind of ok with it
[10:52] <jjesse> oh
[10:54] <jjesse> didn't you mention the drugs keep you up? or prevent sleep?
[10:56] <Tm_T> jjesse: one medication is messing my sleeping yes
[10:57] <jjesse> hmmm can't resize vista ntfs drives w/ gparted :(
[10:58] <nosrednaekim> jjesse: ha... you should have said it was vista eariler
[10:58] <jjesse> nosrednaekim: the last time i dual booted i couldn't resize my xp ntfs drive either w/ qtparted
[10:59] <jjesse> had to use gparted
[11:04] <jjesse> deleted partitions, resized and getting ready to reinstall vista and then dual boot kubuntu
[11:15] <jjesse> man its taking a long time to download these .isos from corporate
[11:15] <jjesse> over the vpn
[11:19] <jjesse> is it wierd that my wife is upstairs in the office and i'm downstairs watching tv and we are chatting over IM?
[11:20] <Mez> jjesse, nope :D
[11:20] <jjesse> Mez: grin i just find it funny
[11:21] <Mez> i used to do it all the time with my flatmate
[11:21] <Mez> the onyl time we'd talk when we were both on the web would be to have the doors open so we could shout commands to each other while playing wow ... lol
[11:22] <jjesse> lol that's funny
[11:27] <Viper550> just wondering, is the KDE4 beta half-decent for a beta?