mark4931so what do i type then?... sorry...12:40
mark4931in command line..12:40
stdinsudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel12:40
sub[t] rnlyup12:40
sub[t] rnlor you can open Adept Manager in X and search for the package12:40
mark4931i dont know how to do that..12:40
mark4931ill just typ it and see what happens12:40
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mark4931itd doing something12:42
sub[t] rnlhehe12:42
sub[t] rnlapt-get is your friend12:42
sub[t] rnlcuddle it12:42
mark4931haha ok12:42
mark4931ill do that12:42
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mark4931cant you just serch for it in the synaptics too?...12:42
stdinapt-get is your friend, but aptitude is mine :)12:43
sub[t] rnl:P12:43
mark4931ok its done12:43
mark4931so now do i restart the xserver?12:43
sub[t] rnlwell, you can hand edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf like stdin said to use the new driver12:43
newsense_07ubotu is my friend12:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is my friend - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:43
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sub[t] rnlor run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg from the command line12:44
sub[t] rnlto set your new driver, and resolutions12:44
mark4931ok ill try that12:44
mark4931bash: run: command not found12:44
mark4931when i ran that..12:44
sub[t] rnlstart with dpkg12:45
sub[t] rnldpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:45
stdinjust the "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" bit, infact  "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh" is better12:45
mark4931oh i put run infront12:45
stdin-phigh limits it to driver and resolution questions12:45
mark4931oh ok.12:45
mark4931ill do that last one12:46
sub[t] rnlthats neat, never new that12:46
sub[t] rnlknew even12:46
mark4931laptop:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh12:46
mark4931debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable12:46
stdingive "sudo fuser -vik /var/cache/debconf/config.dat" a go12:47
mark4931then kill yes?12:48
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mark4931then that last command again?12:48
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mark4931no feed back is good right?12:49
mark4931just a new line..12:49
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stdinno, it should ask questions12:49
mark4931i typed "sudo fuser -vik /var/cache/debconf/config.dat"12:49
mark4931then it just made a new lime12:50
stdinoh, yeah that's ok12:50
sub[t] rnlnow run stdin's dpkg command12:50
mark4931what command?..12:50
stdinsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh12:50
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stdinthen choose the "intel" driver and the resolutions you want to use12:51
mark4931im sure glad you guys know what your doing because i dont12:51
stdintab/up/down/enter to navigate12:52
sub[t] rnlncurses is purdy12:52
mark4931space to select the resolutions12:52
raw__hello, i have a question about knetworkmanager, if i can see my network, is that mean wifi card should work ? (cause when i add wpa key and launch config it block at 28%)12:52
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mark4931ok i went through12:53
mark4931so now do i have to restart the xserver?12:54
mark4931mark@mark-laptop:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh12:54
mark4931xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration12:54
mark4931   file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.2007100616543212:54
pillowpantsdoes anyone here know a text based torrent program?12:55
mark4931what does that mean?12:55
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stdinmark4931: just that it made a backup before saving called '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.20071006165432'12:56
stdinjust logout and choose "Restart X Server" from the menu in the login screen12:56
mark4931its not keeping the ones i select12:56
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mark4931ill log out then back in12:57
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peter_can anyone help with bleutooth12:59
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mark1982lets see if it worked12:59
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usserUptime: 7 hours and 22 minutes01:00
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usseri said it out loud01:00
mark1982i cant seem to find the screen resolution menu...01:00
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sub[t] rnlmark1982 try running it without the -phelp options01:03
intelikey-plow even01:03
atlfalcons866how can i make the desktop switcher like gnome01:03
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stdin-phigh actually01:03
sub[t] rnlerr yeah01:03
mark1982ok just a sec01:03
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intelikey-plow even01:04
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raw__hello, i have a question about knetworkmanager, if i can see my network, is that meaning usb wifi stick working (topcom skyracer 4001g) ? (cause when i add wpa key and launch config it block at 28%)01:05
stdinI know it's -phigh, I gave him the command :P01:05
intelikeystdin you misread me.01:05
atlfalcons866how can i make the desktop switcher like gnome01:05
stdinamdikey: oh? ;)01:06
intelikeyi.e. "without the -ph*"   so  -plow even    (as insted of.)01:06
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Too-Sexyallo ppl01:06
mark1982i still cant go over 1024 x 768....01:06
stdininteresting choice of nickname01:06
sub[t] rnlhehe01:07
EyesOverruncome installo webmin?01:08
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ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!01:08
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sub[t] rnlstdin you use the intel driver?01:09
sub[t] rnlplayed around with dual monitors at all?01:10
ubuntu__can someone help me get WPA working on my ralink rt2500 wirless chipset?01:10
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stdinsub[t] rnl: tried and failed01:11
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sub[t] rnlsame01:11
clunepeoplei've never IRCd before..01:11
clunepeopleI'm running of a kubuntu live CD cause i buggered up my internet connection on my installl01:11
coreymon77clunepeople: well then, welcome to irc!01:12
clunepeoplethanks you :)01:12
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coreymon77clunepeople: need anything.01:13
intelikey<ubuntu__> can someone help me get WPA working on my ralink rt2500 wirless chipset? <<<<< <clunepeople>01:13
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clunepeoplethats my probelm. I got WPA supplican't installed, tried using wifi-radar01:14
clunepeoplebut just fugged my install.01:14
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clunepeople(Hence me being on a livecd)01:14
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Capricorihey all, anyone here used C# before?01:15
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MinatakuCapricori: We're not too fond of Microsoft things around here01:16
Capricorino, me neither, but I've gotta do it for my Uni course... just wondered if there's any way I can possibly do something useful with it01:16
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MinatakuThere's Mono01:17
MinatakuAnd GNU.NET01:17
clunepeopleLinux FTW >_> Even though I normally use W2kPro >___)01:17
MinatakuBut I'd recommend doing everything in C or C++ instead then show off how much better your programs are than everyone else's01:17
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MinatakuThen again, you could make it better than C# writing it in BASIC01:17
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intelikeyalmost in bash01:18
MinatakuOr just doing all the opcodes out on paper01:18
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mark1934thanks guys!01:18
coreymon77clunepeople: not for long :)01:18
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mark1934i got the resolution changed01:18
mark1934i had to restart and it fixed it01:18
intelikeyrestart what ?01:19
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CapricoriIm using Mono now, just wondering if there's any point in me making programs that im actually gonna wanna to use in linux.01:20
CapricoriThe C# thing isn't up to me, course requirement... :(01:20
CapricoriAny language especially useful for developing KDE apps? I might just learn another alongside C#, so I don't feel that my newfound programming skills are completely wasted :)01:20
mark1934i had to restart my computer01:20
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mark1934after installing the drivers for my video card01:20
sub[t] rnlgrats mark01:20
mark1934then it changed the resolution01:20
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=== intelikey grumbling some more about this not being M$ and no need to reboot except for kernel upgrades....
mark1934it was all you sub and std01:21
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mark1934i didnt know what i was doing01:21
intelikeyit's ok.   you'll learn.01:21
mark1934yeah i hope so01:22
mark1934i have taken a linux class but i cant remember everything i learned01:22
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tekteencan someone helpme find the time of a frame in a movie?01:23
tekteenwat program01:23
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tekteenIs anyone here?01:24
intelikeyfor the record, there are a few ways to restart the xserver without rebooting.  one of the favorite is the hotkeys  ctrl+alt+backspace   that's instant.   a more gentel way would be to issue    sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart01:24
intelikey!patience | tekteen01:24
ubotutekteen: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines01:24
intelikey!bot | tekteen01:24
ubotutekteen: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots01:25
intelikeytekteen as to your Q   i don't know.   so i was waiting for someone that did, to answer you.01:25
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sub[t] rnltekteen: what app are you using to view the movie?01:27
ubuntu_first time :-)01:27
ubuntu_germans here ?01:27
n8k99ubuntu_:  !de01:27
ubuntu_i am installing kubuntu at this moment...01:27
ubuntu_waiting and waiting01:28
atlfalcons866why are the servers slow01:28
sub[t] rnltekteen: xine shows the time elapsed at the bottom of the controls01:29
sub[t] rnltekteen: if thats what your looking for01:29
n8k99ubuntu_: #kubuntu-de01:29
hsystem-xhave any of you installed kde 4?01:29
tekteenI am looking for the exact frame01:29
n8k99^^^^ there's your germans01:29
sub[t] rnlah, yeah not sure then01:29
sub[t] rnlnp01:29
sub[t] rnlsorry couldn't help more01:29
intelikeyatlfalcons866 only a guess but i assume it a high traffic day.  the closer to release we get the more the last minute brush-ups seem to swamp the servers  and then after release  the servers are swamped with off-loads01:29
tekteenI am tring to cut out comercials01:29
ubotuKDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php01:30
sub[t] rnlahh, nice01:30
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kde2 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kde3 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:30
sub[t] rnlbrb01:30
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.01:30
ubotuxfs is a high-performance journaling filesystem originally developped by Silicon Graphics for their IRIX OS. It is now fully supported by Linux so you can install Ubuntu on it if you wish. More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFS01:31
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ubotuext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org01:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ext2 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ext4 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:31
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...01:31
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ubotureiserfs is a journalling file system, in benchmarks it outperforms many others on I/O operations, but they take notoriously long to mount.01:32
atlfalcons866stdin: sorry01:32
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intelikeyi use ext2 almost exclusivly anymore   iso9660 being an exception01:34
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atlfalcons866whats the universe packages?01:35
intelikey!repos | Alonea01:35
ubotuAlonea: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu01:35
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stdinlots of packages01:35
intelikey!repos | atlfalcons86601:36
ubotuatlfalcons866: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu01:36
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intelikeysorry Alonea bad nick completion.01:36
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atlfalcons866universe componets dont get security updates01:39
intelikeyoh how sad01:39
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intelikeyi have an issue.    how to activate a monitor ?01:45
intelikeyis there anything that can send the power on signal to the monitor ?01:45
Mr_Sonomaintelikey: what do you mean? the computer went into sleep/powersave mode and now the monitor ect wont come back on?01:47
intelikeyMr_Sonoma no.  the computer was started with "wakeonlan"   and the monitor is later turned on locally by another user but they can't see anything.   even changing tty's doesn't "wakeup" the monitor01:48
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intelikeyonly solution for them is  ctrl+alt+del   to get the monitor to work.     which is not a good thing.01:48
Mr_Sonomaoh its a windows box?01:49
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intelikeyi don't do windows.01:49
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atlfalcons866will gusty gibbon have kde401:50
intelikeynot default atlfalcons86601:50
Mr_Sonomactrl+alt+del....hmmmm..........nevermind =) uh not sure what to tell you, im googling a bit to see what i can come up with, but if its anything like my computers have been in the past i turn the powersave features off because i've never had good luck with the "wake up events" something always seems to stay off for me01:51
intelikeyMr_Sonoma hmmm.    it could be that.   ibm box with i810 onboard vidio.  so it could be bios and the vidio card not jiving01:52
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Mr_Sonomaintelikey: that has been my experiance with MOST ALL of my systems....01:53
intelikeyi don't think it's any problme if the monitor was powered when the box was wakened tho.01:53
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=== intelikey has never had an issue with using powersaving bios setting as a screen saver...
scott_dennisterk, fixed xorg resolution...now onto the samba...seems I've forgotten everything i used to know :-(01:54
scott_dennisterhey intellikey...long time no chat01:54
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intelikeyscott_dennister long time no C++01:54
Mr_Sonomayou've been luckier than i have then =)01:54
scott_dennisterlol...that's funny :)01:54
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scott_dennistercan someone help me with samba? winblows machine can't see ubuntu samba server, but it can ping it, and the samba server can totally see/browse/write to winblows machine01:56
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scott_dennisteri've just rebuilt this machine for my son here, and they need the network01:58
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scott_dennisterand this blasted howto isn't accurate on the windows end01:58
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squidyhello guys.. is anyone here using kubuntu gutsy with compiz enabled successfully?02:00
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morphinexIf I want my lirc kernel modules to load every time at start up, is there anything special I need to do?02:00
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squidymorphinex, put the modules into the /etc/modprobe to load at the boot process..02:01
Aloneaok, made some headway with installing network-manager manually, but still have an error. Here is new pastebin: http://pastebin.ca/72843702:01
squidymorphinex, sorry.. the correct place is /etc/modules02:01
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morphinexsquidy: you mean /etc/modutils?02:02
morphinexsquidy: oh nevermind, I see, thanks02:03
squidymorphinex, no.. /etc/modules02:03
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intelikeywasn't /etc/modules depreciated ?02:04
squidyintelikey, i don't know.. i'm using it yet02:04
morphinexI was looking at the /etc/modprobe.d directory02:04
intelikeyi know it still works,  just think they started using the subdir modprobe.d  or modutils[.d]   or something.02:05
intelikeyseems that *buntu wants to do everything in /etc/defaults/   as well02:06
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squidywhat about compiz-fusion in gutsy? does anyone use it successfully?02:07
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Dr_willisit works decently well here squidy02:08
Dr_willisnot using it for KDE however. :)02:08
scott_dennisterhey channel, i have a small problem and currently just do *not* have the time to relearn everything I used to know about samba...anyone to help?02:08
intelikeywell in all accuality, it's still your os, your software, and you can set it up as you like.   that's what linux is all about.02:08
squidyi'm getting an error message when i try to execute compiz02:08
squidyi'm using kde upgraded from feisty to gutsy02:08
Dr_willissquidy,  under gutsy/gnome its there by default. might want to ask in #ubuntu+102:08
Mr_Sonomaintelikey: i got called out to deal with babies so i havent got to follow discussions since my last line, but i found this talking about IBM Thinkpad and "wake on lan" problems, may or may not be what your looking for. http://learn.clemsonlinux.org/wiki/Laptops:IBM_Thinkpad_R3102:08
scott_dennisterbeen here 2 days and i wanna go home! :( lol02:09
squidyDr_willis, i know... but i'm a kde user :)02:09
Dr_willisscott_dennister,  'whats the nature of the samba emergancy' ?02:09
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intelikeyMr_Sonoma no progress,  my modem reset so i took a set back as well02:09
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scott_dennisterDr_willis: windows machine can't see/browse ubuntu samba server, can ping it, but ubuntu machine can see/browse/write windows well02:10
Dr_willisscott_dennister,  cover the basics? you did enable the home shares In the smb.conf? you did give the linux users samba passwords with sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME02:10
scott_dennisterDr_willis: yes, i did all that, and testparm didn't result in any errors02:11
mluser-homehow do I change from gdm to kdm?02:11
Dr_willisscott_dennister,  this isent a gutsy machine is it?02:11
scott_dennisternope, this is a feisty machine i've just rebuilt for my son, scott02:11
Dr_willissudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm02:12
mluser-homeDr_willis: Thanks :)02:12
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scott_dennistermy son spilled champagne inside his box :(02:12
Dr_willisscott_dennister,   heh...   well if youve covered the basics.. not sure what to do next.02:13
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Dr_willisscott_dennister,   try a live cd on the windows box and see if it can acess the shares?02:14
intelikeyMr_Sonoma that seems to all deal with etherwake problems   and that was an easy fix for me.  just had to use ethtool and add wol on     however that has nthing to do with the monitor not waking up when you turn the power on.    oh and it's not a lappy.  it's a server.02:14
scott_dennisterDr_willis: ok, i can try that...but b4 i do, how about the hosts.allow and hosts.deny sction of the samba section in kcontrol?02:15
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Dr_willisscott_dennister,  never had to mess with that stuff..02:16
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Dr_willisscott_dennister,  you DID install the 'samba' package? :)02:16
scott_dennisterI've also forgotten how to specify a range of addresses...with the netmasks fr the network\02:17
Dr_willisscott_dennister,  on a clean install, i normally install  samba, edit the smb.conf file,. give users passwords with sudo smbpasswd -a, and thats about it..02:17
Dr_willisthats about all ive ha dto do.02:17
Mr_Sonomaintelikey: like i said i got called out so i didnt get to examine closely, my boys are being a real PIA at the moment i'll look someome and see what i find =)02:17
scott_dennisterDr_willis: yes, i did install it, or i wouldn't have the smb.conf file that testparms fine02:17
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Dr_willisscott_dennister,  actually i found befor that there IS a smb.conf without installing the samba package.02:17
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Dr_willisscott_dennister,  not sure where it came from. :) but i was editing it once.. to no effect..02:18
scott_dennisteroh, well like i said, my samba can read/browse/write to the windows machine great02:18
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Dr_willisscott_dennister,  read/browse how? with kde/gnomes file manager? it can do that without the other samba stuff installed. :)02:18
scott_dennisterjust can't do anything in reverse, except ping this ubuntu machine02:19
Dr_willistry a 'sudo /etc/init.d/samba start02:19
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hsystem-xok so, when you installed samba, kubuntu or ubuntu turn visible to windows machines?02:19
Dr_willishsystem-x,  if you have samba confiogured properly. you can share directroies  to windows box's02:20
scott_dennisterDr_willis: i followed this howto after using the official documentation: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ComprehensiveSambaGuide?highlight=%28samba%2902:20
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scott_dennisterthat howto mainly falls down on the windows side of it, the acl's & permissions02:20
scott_dennisteri'm forgetting my winblows knowledge, too :P02:21
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hsystem-xDr_willis, and also fetch folders (shared ones) on windows based pcs with kubuntu using samba right?02:21
Dr_willisscott_dennister,   all ive ever had to do was a simple  edit of the smb.conf, and give users passwords.02:21
intelikeyuse it or loose it02:21
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hsystem-xignore the last kubuntu word....02:21
Dr_willishsystem-x,  a windows box can access 'shares' on a linux machine. via samba on the linux box.02:21
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scott_dennisterintelikey: and then the kids get internet, and screw up their systems, and I have the rebuild them02:22
hsystem-xDr_willis, and what i want to access windows shared folders from linux?02:22
hsystem-xignoring ftp possibilities.02:22
intelikeytell them "you broke it, you fix it."02:22
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scott_dennisteri had to relearn some of my winblows stuff02:22
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Dr_willishsystem-x,  thats doable also.02:23
hsystem-xhow? using samba too?02:23
Dr_willisor any of a dozen other samba browser tools02:23
scott_dennisterintelikey: unfortunately, they need it for school, and don't have the $ for pro help...besides, it is my hobby02:23
hsystem-xDr_willis, if im not wrong, i can also send msg to windows OS with samba right?02:24
Dr_willishsystem-x,  proberly..  thers some sort of messager tool.. but everyone disalbes that :)02:24
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intelikeysamba bcast ?02:24
hsystem-xyes, but for example, an institution or corporation, where pcs are controlled.02:25
Dr_willis!info samba-doc02:25
hsystem-xwith the messenger service enable of course.02:25
ubotusamba-doc: Samba documentation. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.24-2ubuntu1.2 (feisty), package size 6754 kB, installed size 14512 kB02:25
Dr_willisthe samba doc package has like 3 whole books on the topic. :)02:25
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intelikeydoc know anything about a monitor that wont wake up ?02:26
scott_dennisteryeah, and i don't have the time to read one book, let alone 302:26
intelikeylets start with a screw driver02:26
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intelikeyno i mean is there and app that can send a wakeup sig. to the vidio ?   like wakeonlan or etherwake do on lan ?02:27
Dr_willisintelikey,  not that i know of.02:27
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underdog5004I just tried to mount a remote directory locally following this walkthrough: http://www.debuntu.org/2006/03/30/11-how-to-mount-a-remote-filesystem-using-ssh-sshfs-and-fuse Unfortunately, I can't access the dir, I can't even see the dir unless I'm root, and I'm not sure what's happened. Can anyone take a second and look at this for me?02:28
intelikeyhmmm ok.     what was that app for parsing the monitor params ?02:28
intelikeyit might actually send some sig's to the mon.02:28
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Dr_willisMinataku,  i got 2 amigas packed.. but then the wife needed me.. :)02:30
intelikeyunderdog5004 there is a setting i had to disable grep for the word root in the configs.   i can't recall off hand what it was.02:30
Dr_willisi gotta figure a way to wrap up the box's so they dont say 'daimlerchrysler' on them.02:30
underdog5004intelikey, ha ha, what?02:30
underdog5004oh, nvm, I understand now02:30
intelikeyunderdog5004 there is a setting, which i had to disable, grep for the word "root" in the configs.   i can't recall off hand what it was.02:31
intelikeyi cleaned it up some for you.02:31
underdog5004many thanks02:31
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intelikeyseems like norootsquash   or something like that underdog500402:33
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underdog5004hmmm, I'm in /etc, can't find _anything_ related to fuse or sshfs...do you remember where this config file was?02:33
MinatakuDr_willis: Heehee02:33
intelikeystdin may remember02:33
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intelikeywhen he gets up...02:34
stdindon't make me read scrollback :p02:34
intelikeywhat was the setting to allow normal users access in sshfs ???02:34
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stdinas long as they're in the fuse group they should be able too02:35
intelikeynorootsquash or something needs set   remember02:35
stdinthere's '-o allow_other'02:36
intelikeyi only played with that one time.   but i remember editing a config....02:36
stdinby the design of fuse only the user who mounted it can read it02:36
stdinthere's also '-o allow_root'02:36
intelikeythere's a config....  ;/02:37
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underdog5004beautiful, lemme check that out.02:37
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stdinthere is /etc/fuse.conf but that's for all fuse filesystems02:37
underdog5004oh man, all I had to do was mount it w/o using sudo02:37
underdog5004I'm good.02:37
underdog5004thanks so much you guys!02:38
stdinyeah, fuse = no sudo02:38
stdinthat's why it's nice :)02:38
underdog5004but also dangerous, no?02:38
stdinnot really02:38
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underdog5004but anyone can mount any volume...but I really haven't looked into fuse deeply (obviously)02:39
intelikeyunderdog5004 there is something in a config somewhere that will fix that though.  cause i have to let root mount it.  my system is nosuid   thus only root mounts anything   and i remember a setting that allowed root to mount then all users access normally.02:39
stdinit can only do thing you can already do, so it's limited by your users permissions02:39
stdinintelikey: I'm guessing you uncommented "user_allow_other" in /etc/fuse.conf02:40
intelikeyprobably and there was a noroot* something too02:40
intelikeyi'm sure that it had   no root   in it.02:40
intelikeythought it was in ssh tho02:40
underdog5004awesome, now I can stream movies from my server! no more 2 minute wait times. Spiderman, here I come!02:41
intelikeysshd.conf  or someplace02:41
underdog5004I love this place02:41
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Dr_willisold-skool cartoons?02:42
underdog5004oh yeah02:42
underdog5004first ducktales, now spiderman...I'm really digging spiderman02:42
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Dr_willisWatching CodeMonkeys right now.02:42
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stdinall legally obtained of course02:43
underdog5004of course02:43
hsystem-xuse kubuntu offtopic pls for talking that....02:43
Dr_willisCodemonkeys reminds me of this channel..... :P02:43
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evjunior09I have a question...is it possible to download Real Player?02:43
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:44
Dr_willisevjunior09,  i belive so.. but last i recall - it dide3nt work too good.02:44
stdinevjunior09: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealPlayerInstallationMethods02:44
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the_hammeris there kubuntu gutsy02:44
Dr_willisthe_hammer,  yes.02:44
the_hammerfusion compiz?02:45
Dr_willisthats not in kubuntu by default.02:45
the_hammerbut available tho right?02:45
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nosrednaekimthe_hammer: yeah02:45
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Dr_willisyes. its avilable.. no idea if it works well.. :)02:45
the_hammercool gotta link?02:45
nosrednaekimDr_willis: scratch that...put it in the channel topic ;)02:45
nosrednaekimit works very well02:46
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information02:46
Dr_williskubuntu-restricted-extras - Commonly used restricted package02:46
scott_dennisterk, simpler question: to specify a range of addresses, the syntax is just:, right?02:46
wscan somebody help me with the kubuntu application bar... it disappeared, and i do not know why02:47
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wsi mean the bar belo, with the start menu02:47
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stdin!away > sub[t] rnl, I hate away messages, really hate them02:47
sub[t] rnl10 4 stdin02:48
the_hammeri see ubuntu not kubuntu?02:48
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Dr_williskeep looking? :)02:48
Dr_willisor google for kubuntu gutsy02:48
stdinthe_hammer: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/gutsy/02:48
wsi already restored ~/.kde/share/config/kdesktoprc, but it did not help :(02:48
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sub[t] rnlws: so your kicker bar isn't running?02:49
wssub: what is the kicker bar exactly?02:49
the_hammerstdin and ya got compiz fusion working in it?02:49
sub[t] rnlits the default toolbar used with kde02:49
stdinthe_hammer: yeah, but I don't use it much02:49
sub[t] rnltry alt+f2 then "kicker"02:49
sub[t] rnlsee if its up02:50
the_hammerworks good tho right02:50
stdinthe_hammer: works fine02:50
the_hammerok im gonna try it out already d/l thanks man02:50
james_xxxi just borked my system during am upgrade to gutsy-beta.... would a fresh install of gutsy-beta likely be usable?02:50
wsi suppose kicker runs: ps -->02:50
stdinjames_xxx: maybe, but #ubuntu+1 is gutsy support02:51
wsws        5646     1  0 02:44 ?        00:00:01 kicker [kdeinit] 02:51
wsws        5653  5621  0 02:44 ?        00:00:00 kio_system [kdeinit]  system /tmp/ksocket-ws/klauncher0hguvb.slave-socket /tmp/ksocket-ws/kickerUlv2ua.slave-socket02:51
wsws        5998  5688  0 02:50 pts/3    00:00:00 grep -i kicker02:51
stdin!paste | ws02:51
ubotuws: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:51
wsi was only pasting 3 lines... but ok02:52
wsi can not see the kicker bar02:52
stdinit's probably hidden02:52
wsALT-F2 kicker dose not change anything02:52
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sub[t] rnltry deleting kickerrc in ~/.kde/share/config02:54
wsi also moved .kde/share/config/kdesktoprc  away, and let the OS recreate it... but it did not help :(02:54
stdinws: try Alt-F2 and put in "kcontrol" then go to Desktop > Panels and disable hiding02:54
wsstdin: thank you so much!!!02:55
stdinguess that worked then :)02:56
wsi still do not know how i came into this situation...02:56
sub[t] rnlhehe02:56
wsyes.... it worked perfectly :)02:56
wsafter comparing config files for an hour and searching in the net02:57
stdineven KDE devs get lost in config files, that's why they invented GUIs02:57
sub[t] rnlnothing wrong with putting forth the effort to resolve it yourself02:57
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wsbut what's still unclear for me is...02:58
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stdinpanel hiding was never perfect, sometimes it doesn't want to come back02:58
wsi re-activated "hide automaically", but now the panel appears when i move over it with the mouse, like expected. and unlike before.02:58
wsa big thanks again :)02:59
stdinyw :)02:59
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wsand i will remember kcontrol for the next time :)03:00
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wsgood night03:00
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twylightyou peoples03:11
twylightI require help with java/firefox intergration03:11
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crimsuna bit more detail would be nice...03:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jre - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:14
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.03:14
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twylightbasically, I want to play runescape (trust me I'm bored)03:14
stdinso read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java03:14
hsystem-xtry, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre03:14
stdin!es | antsurea03:14
ubotuantsurea: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.03:14
antsureaalguien q hable espaolll?03:15
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twylight!language | twylight03:15
stdin!es | antsurea03:19
ubotuantsurea: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.03:19
twylightI still get the "error loading applet" error03:19
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antsureacomo hago para reproducir archivos wmv?03:31
Mr_Sonoma!es | antsurea03:31
ubotuantsurea: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.03:31
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HealthyElija2anyone here use Linux MCE?03:35
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n8k99ok, so i'd like konqueror  to just open weblinks from other applications instead of downloading the document into /var03:40
n8k99how do i make that stop?03:40
NickPrestaHealthyElija1, LinuxMCE is comparable to Windows Media Center + some enhancements?03:40
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Greeneryhow do i hide mounted ntfs devices from the desktop?03:46
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Les_Caesarsis there a way that I can remap one of my keys, to work like a different one?03:48
intelikeyGreenery right click the desktop configure it.   it's in the show devices section03:49
intelikeyor device icons section03:49
Mr_SonomaLes_Caesars: i think you may be looking for the hotkeys package03:49
Les_Caesarsmy "ergonomic" keyboard has only one start menu button, and it's unfortunately on the left. This makes keyboard shortcuts hell on my left hand, which has carpal tunnel.03:49
Les_CaesarsMr_Sonoma: oh? do tell03:50
Mr_Sonoma!hotkeys | Les_Caesars03:50
ubotuLes_Caesars: keyboard shortcuts can be set in K -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse. Try also "Input Actions" in KControl. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys - See !Keyboard for changing layouts03:50
Les_CaesarsMr_Sonoma: thank you03:50
Greeneryi check the device icons section, it is unticked already but the mounted hard disk volume still shows up03:51
intelikeyso mounted partitions is set to not show but shows anyway   wierd bug03:52
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CorleoneSimple question.  Is there any way to make the Live CD run from a bootable USB Flash drive?03:59
intelikeyinstall it ?03:59
Dr_willisCorleone,  i hear its installable to usb drives.03:59
Dr_willisbut never done so.03:59
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Dr_willissome tweaks may be needed to get it working right also.03:59
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CorleoneNo, I don't want to install TO a USB drive.  I want to take the ISO and make the USB device be the Live/installer CD I can use to install from.04:00
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Dr_willisso you want the  usb drive to basicially boot IDENTICIALLY to the  live cd?04:00
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intelikeyand with a little twiddeling one could put the iso on the flash drive, and get it to run    i'm not up for walking anyone through that tho04:00
Dr_willisThat  http://tinyurl.com/3exghs   seems to be doing that intelikey  I think.. :04:01
CorleoneRight.  I want to extract the ISO to a flash drive instead of to a CD.04:01
intelikey                   ^04:02
Dr_willischeck that URL  - see if they are doing what you want.04:02
CorleoneWell, my PC has the option to boot from USB, though I think it's expecting a USB hard drive or CD in that case.04:02
Dr_willisLooks like a nifty trick04:02
CorleoneYeah, got that bookmarke for a close read later.04:02
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Dr_willisnot exactly what you want however...04:03
CorleoneIf it's easy, I got a 1G flash drive I could use.  REally I only wanna use that cuz I'm outa blank discs tho.04:03
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CorleoneSo if it's a big project, then I'll just break down and get some more recordables.  Flash drives have me spoiled now tho.  Hard to commit to 1-use media.04:03
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Dr_willisi wonder what would happen if you installed the installer on a installed system.. then ran it..04:03
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Dr_willisBeOS ages ago could actually 'install' itself to a 2nd hd on the same system. :) ya then took that hd to a new machine.04:04
CorleoneThat's another option.  I can mount the CD easy enough in Windows, just not sure if Kubuntu will support installing that way.04:04
Dr_willisCorleone,  THATS what that url is describing exactly... :)04:04
Dr_willis making windows/grub load/boot the iso file from the C:04:05
CorleoneYeah, I'll have to check that out later.  Too tired to do serious resarch right now tho.04:05
intelikeyDr_willis heh  why not dd or tar to just copy over to the other drive ???04:05
CorleoneIn my case, I boot XP/Vista with a custom Grub loader, so I'm not sure even TRYING to load linux is a good idea.04:05
Dr_willisintelikey,  ask the BeOs guys. :)04:05
intelikeypfft   ;/04:05
Dr_willisCorleone,  if you are allready yusing grub thats even easier...04:06
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Dr_williswell from, what i read on that site.. You just copy some files from the iso to C:\ and the iso file there. then add a entry to the grub menu04:06
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CorleoneWell, it's a customized automated grub.  Sets a buncha pre-boot variables, then immediately dumps you to the XP-style OS loader.04:06
n8k99my konqueror is hosed.04:06
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CorleoneI never get to a grub menu in any interactive way.  It's supposed to be a transparent startup that runs before the XP/Vista loader runs, in order to define a few things before that loader gets started.04:07
n8k99how do i get it to open links from other applications as webpages instead of downloading the documnent to  /var/tmp/04:07
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Dr_willisintelikey is such a leet haxor.04:08
CorleoneI dunno, only 4 minutes to go on the download.  I'll play around with it a little.04:08
n8k99any ideas?04:08
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intelikeyDr_willis hat kleest spell it rite,   l33t04:08
Dr_willisBeen watching a CodeMonkeys marathon all day... I can imagine all the irc people on here.. being like the Pixlated people in the show...04:09
CorleoneLove Linux, but play too many WIndows games to commit to it.  Though I do like to shake the etch-a-sketch up now and then and see what the newest and greatest in open source has to offer.04:09
Dr_willisI built a new box just for games.. and rarely play them :)04:09
Dr_willisbeen none worth playing lately04:09
intelikeyn8k99 i don't even understand the question    sorry.04:09
CorleoneI got a quad-boot right now.04:09
CorleoneXP 32+64 bit and Vista 32/6404:10
n8k99intelikey: ok- you know your are in kmail, get an email with a link and click on it, right04:10
intelikeyn8k99 no.  i don't do email04:10
CorleoneAnybody tried ReactOS?  It's basically an open-source OS based off the NT software that MS released as open-source.04:11
intelikeyn8k99 but i sujest "right-click"  and tell it what you want to do04:11
CorleoneIt's basically and open-source. free version of XP.04:11
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CorleoneAt least that's the hype.  It's still in what they call "alpha'04:11
Dr_willisCorleone,  last i tried it.. it booted.. then crashed.. :)04:11
n8k99intelikey: doesn't matter, click or right-click > Open URL , konqueror downloads the document into /var/tmp/04:11
Dr_willishmm.. wonder how to do a netboot install of ubuntu04:12
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CorleoneWas that a while ago, DR or recently?04:12
Dr_willis6 mo.04:12
n8k99intelikey: and see those links right there ^^^^, does the same thing with those04:12
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CorleoneI'll have to take another look.  It might just be a hard-ware specific thing.04:12
intelikeyn8k99 it's not like konq wants to parse the malbox file for the info.  if it's a url then just highlight it and paste it into konq's address bar04:12
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CorleoneI had 2 distros I tried, the latest Mandriva and the Latest Kubuntu at the time.  Kubuntu went in and worked just fine.04:13
CorleoneMandriva wouldn't even get thru the grub-load...04:13
n8k99yes, that is terribly annoying when its not the desired behavior & was the former behavior04:13
n8k99might as well be using GNOME in that case04:13
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CorleoneI was actually a SImply Mepis fan back then.  It went in much like Kubuntu, but it had a lot more useful bells and whistles.  Kubuntu was a little stripped-down in comparison.04:14
CorleoneFrom what I was reading today tho, Mepis isn't doing too well.04:14
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Dr_willisCorleone,  they sort of lost their focus and keep changing things around..04:15
CorleoneYeah, that's the basic gyst of what I read.04:15
Dr_willisplus mepis dosent really offer that much different from ubuntu,  a few nifty tools last i tried it.04:15
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Dr_willisthen they tried to use ubuntu, then got mad.  so went back..04:15
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nosrednaekimyeah... I was looking at kliklos...04:15
tokorona.. grr, how do I not spell that?04:15
CorleoneWell I'm talkin' about a few years ago, back when the LiveCD concept was just catchin' on.04:15
nosrednaekimwhich seems to be pretty nice04:15
Dr_willisDSL-N is worth having in ya pc tool box. :) and Puppylinux, and FeatherLinux04:15
nosrednaekimand Kubuntu ;)04:16
CorleoneBack then Kubuntu was pretty lean.  I dunno what the latest build looks lik.04:16
tokoronaAnywy, I wnt from DSL-N to SuSE (never installed) to Fedora (ditto) to Ubuntu (again, failed to install) to Kubuntu04:16
tokoronaDSL-N.. er.. well. I Tried making it a going OS.04:16
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tokoronaInvolves ripping it';s guts out and trying to make it a debian system - good luck with that.04:16
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CorleoneWell, looks like my download's done.  Thx for your help.  Wish me luck...  :)04:17
nosrednaekimCorleone: gutsy?04:17
CorleoneI can deal with a few beta blips here and there.04:17
tokoronaGutsy's nice so far. Some issues with KDM theme manager, and ndiswrapper, but nothing overly critical04:17
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nosrednaekimCorleone: yeah..its pretty good, compiz integreation is better too if you have an ATI04:18
CorleoneWell, lemme get this flash-drive thing worked out first...  Okay, I'm out.  Thx again.04:18
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nosrednaekimflash drive?04:18
intelikey"overly critical"  :)04:19
nosrednaekimyo installing to a flash drive?04:19
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videoeddiehow doo i down load pictures04:19
tokoronawell, ndiswrapper is how i connect to the internet, soo.04:19
nosrednaekimvideoeddie: of what?04:19
intelikeyvideoeddie from where ?04:19
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videoeddiepictures of my daughter04:20
videoeddieto a sidick04:20
intelikeyvideoeddie download from where ?     just drag and drop them.04:21
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videoeddieyoooooooooooooooooooo how do i down load pictures of my daughter to her sidicjk04:21
intelikeysyntax error.04:22
intelikeyyou no will to engrish ?04:22
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Greeneryi think he meant CD04:27
nosrednaekimI thought he meant sidekick04:27
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Dr_willisI did to. :)04:28
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intelikeystill doesn't answer the question "where are the stupid files now???"    ;/04:28
Les_CaesarsThe history on my kickoff menu acts like the history limit on "recent applications" is 0. Does anyone know where I can fix this?04:29
intelikeydownload normally implies that the data is not local    no?04:29
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intelikeymaybe he meant upload to sidekick   ?04:29
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stdinintelikey: not for some people, I often have to "download" files to a CD for my dad04:30
n8k99i fixed it, thanks for all the fish04:30
videoeddieintelikey: who u think u talking to nigga this is nicole bitch04:31
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ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.04:31
stdintoo late04:31
intelikeyoh hello "nicole bitch"  who ever you are...04:31
n8k99thanks stdin04:32
stdinI was poised ;)04:32
stdincould feel it in me bones04:32
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Les_Caesarsdoes anyone know where to configure?04:34
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Les_Caesarskickoff, that is04:34
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intelikeyright click on it ?   or   in it's menu's ?    maybe  kcontrol even ?       i don't even know what kickoff is.04:35
intelikey!info kickoff04:35
ubotuPackage kickoff does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas04:36
intelikeyLes_Caesars if none of the above ask in  #kde  maybe04:36
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Les_Caesarsintelikey: am trying04:36
intelikeykickoff not being in the repos,  it's a sinch that we don't support it...04:37
intelikeyyuch,   i said "we"04:38
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NickPresta!info kicker-kickoff04:38
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NickPrestaoh, trevino.04:38
hsystem-xlol upgrading to gutsy .... it will take so long......04:39
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naught101anyone know what the command for the run dialogue is?04:43
naught101so I can run it from console04:43
robotgeeknaught101: doesn't alt + f2 work?04:43
robotgeeknaught101: if not, why not just run your command in the console?04:43
naught101robotgeek: not at the moment04:43
Dr_willis!info bbrun04:43
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naught101because I want alt+F2 to work...04:44
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Dr_willisnot sure what the kde equiliv is.04:44
Dr_willis!info fbrun04:44
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naught101yeah, I'd prefer to know what the k one is04:44
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Dr_willisIm not sure it even IS a specific command naught10104:44
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Dr_willisthe #kde guys may know.04:44
Tomi-idleFamily is important. Family with KDE04:45
killermachI hibernated kubuntu gutsy, and later booted backup. but now my usb mouse doesn't respond04:45
Tomi-idleAnybody else converted their parents/friends to kubuntu?04:45
naught101Tomi-idle: yeah04:45
killermachwhat command do I enter to have the mouse redetected04:45
robotgeeknaught101: ksystraycmd04:46
Agent_bobTomi-idle no.  but to linux yes.04:46
Tomi-idlenaught101: i've had less problems to answer problems nowadays than i did before... maybe once a month there's problems.04:46
naught101robotgeek: thanks04:46
robotgeeknaught101: but i dont think it runs from the cli :(04:46
Agent_bobkillermach usb mouse ?  unplug it and replug ?04:47
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killermachAgent_bob:  yep.. and even into the other usb ports.. also notice that there is no redlight on when I plug it in04:47
naught101then how would I find out why it isn't working, considering that the kmenu link doesn't work, and the key combination is set correctly??04:48
killermachAgent_bob: kinda like the USB didn't re-engage when hibernate resumed04:48
killermachlemme tail dmesg while I unplug/plug it again04:48
Agent_bobkillermach   /etc/init.d/usb* restart04:48
robotgeeknaught101: have you checked you keyboard shortcuts to see if it is mapped correctly?04:48
sub[t] rnlany recommended .avi to dvd burning programs?04:48
sub[t] rnlk3b is being a pain04:48
naught101robotgeek: yes, it's set correctly for my user AND root.04:49
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Agent_bobah killermach i think you can find info on this in the bug reports as wellas the forums04:49
robotgeeknaught101: root?04:49
naught101as in, kde setting> root password> set options04:49
Agent_bobkillermach seems that others beet you to that one.04:49
killermachAgent_bob: no logs generated in /var/log/dmesg or /var/log/messages when replug USB mouse04:49
robotgeeknaught101: i dont follow, where exactly is that setting?04:50
naught101think I might try Alt+Ctrl+backspace04:50
killermachAgent_bob: It's no big deal that it didn't restore, I thought I'd take moment to learn how to "HUP" USB04:50
naught101robotgeek: when you go into the kcontrol in root mode04:50
naught101back in a bit04:51
Agent_bobkillermach you can yank it's module and reinsert it    :)))04:51
Agent_bobkillermach that's a   sudo modprobe   command04:51
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killermachAgent_bob:  only have /etc/init.d/usplash  no other us* files there04:51
killermachdoing lsmod now04:51
naught101oh well, working now04:52
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Agent_boball for naught.*04:52
stdinnaught101: well, it "dcop kdesktop KDesktopIface popupExecuteCommand" just so you know :p04:53
naught101thanks stdin. I'm sure I will have forgotten that by the next time I need it ;)04:53
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killermachnope.. modprobe usbhid, and rmmod usbhid/modprobe usbhid.. no go04:54
stdinnaught101: I had to search for that, so you will remember it (non-optional) :p04:54
stdinstupid command for it tho04:54
naught101I WILL remember at least that it's a dcop command04:54
stdindcop and kdesktop, then you'll find it again (if you ever need it)04:55
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ardchoillestdin: I typed in  "dcop kdesktop KDesktopIface " and hit the tab key twice and got a nice list of stuff04:58
ardchoilleI'm really beginning to like dcop04:58
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stdinardchoille: yeah, dcop is nice. you can even use kdcop for a GUI :)04:59
intelikeynicer and nicer still...04:59
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ghozalahay how can i mount fat 32 disk05:01
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ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter05:01
intelikeysudo mount /dev/<blah> /<mount_point>05:01
ardchoilleghozala:  sudo mount -t vfat /dev/device /mount/point05:01
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intelikeytype is not needed05:02
ardchoilleoh, ok05:02
intelikeywont hurt tho05:02
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intelikeyit's my habbit to never add type unless it's cramfs or a loop device and has to have it.05:02
ardchoilleI had a data cd that would never mount unless I added -t iso966005:03
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ghozalahay i want to mount a fat32 partion where is the app res05:04
intelikeyprobably because you had a udf type in the fstab file   or something like that...05:04
intelikeyghozala   sudo mount /dev/<blah> /<mount_point>05:05
intelikeykonsole command  ^05:05
intelikeytranslate what's within  <>05:05
intelikeyblah might be something like  hdb3   or sda1    and mount_point   something like   ~/my.disk/   or  /media/hda   or even  /mnt05:06
pillowpantswhat do i do about my login screen being ginormous and scrollable05:06
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hsystem-xignore it XD.05:07
pillowpantshsystem-x : i have been, but its been getting on my nerves05:08
intelikeypillowpants use gdm in place of kdm ?   heh.   or correct the settings for the kdm   or  fix your  xorg.conf   i.e. remove the vertual size05:08
intelikeywhat you are seeing is the "vertual size" is much larger than the actual size.05:09
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hsystem-xintelikey, maybe if you guide him exactly, to change the setting, would be much easier for yo uand for him...05:10
hsystem-xyou and*05:10
pillowpantsintelikey : yeah05:11
pillowpantsi just google the issue and look it up05:11
intelikeyhsystem-x no.  because if he has multi-head setup then he needs the vertual setting.  so it's kinda a smorgage board fix    take what you like.05:11
pillowpantsbound to have happened before05:11
peter_can anyone help me with bluetooth ?05:11
hsystem-xcan you explain what you want to do with bluetooth..05:12
intelikeypillowpants if not dual-head  then find the line in /etc/X11/xorg.conf that says  vertu*   and comment it out.05:12
intelikeyooops gone.05:13
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superbennyhey...i just upgraded from 7.04 to 7.10...and now my wireless isnt working. when i restarted, a little box came up andsaid something about restricted drivers...05:29
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superbennyknetworkmanager isnt finding either my wired interface or my wireless05:29
Les_Caesarsdoes -anyone- know how to configure kickoff?05:30
Les_Caesarsanyone at all?05:30
Les_Caesarseven a guess?05:30
Mr_Sonomasuperbenny: according to the topic -- Gutsy help _only_ in #ubuntu+1 Gutsy is 7.10 its a beta release atm05:31
Mr_SonomaLes_Caesars: have you read the man (i havent used kickoff so no i dont know) you may want to try typing into a konsole window: man kickoff05:32
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Les_CaesarsMr_Sonoma: No manual entry for kickoff.05:33
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Mr_Sonomanot sure what to tell ya then05:33
superbennyoh sry05:34
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twylighthow do I clear all history of an application05:36
twylightI screwed up the settings in secondlife once and now it crashes no matter what I do05:36
tazgodxwhat is the terminal command to find out your internal IP?05:36
twylightso I figure I have to clear the app settings05:36
NickPrestaLes_Caesars, what do you want to configure about kickoff?05:36
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Les_CaesarsNickPresta: The history limit, for my Recent Applications05:37
Les_Caesarsright now, it's 005:37
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se7en^Of^9tazgodx: ifconfig05:38
twylighthow do I update my opengl drivers05:39
tazgodxty se7en^Of^905:39
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Les_CaesarsNickPresta: so any ideas?05:42
NickPrestaLes_Caesars, I'm playing around with it. No idea yet.05:42
vbgunzI lost my multiple desktop applet, it is not in the applet list, how do I get it back?05:42
savetheWorldvbgunz: right click on the toolbar, see if you get some menus05:43
vbgunzyeah, I checked the applet dialog, I do not see it in there :/05:44
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twylightwho in here plays SL?05:48
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NickPrestait would be really nice to know where my System Tray went. It disappeared and event though I readd it from the applet menu, it doesn't show up05:49
twylightwill someone help me please05:51
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twylightyeah, the alpha client05:52
bazhangNickPresta: tons of people are having that happen05:52
twylightit crashed as I was logging in to my account, now it crashes every time05:52
twylightit DID work before05:52
twylightso there's nothing wrong with my drivers05:52
NickPrestabazhang, and what seems to be the problem?05:53
twylightis there a way to delete everything that kubuntu knows about a program?05:54
killer_here is an odd one.. I have a friend who just asked me for an app that will translate this phrase, "Close watertight doors" into as many languages as possible at one time..05:55
killer_I thought one of you super bright people might help him out05:55
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bazhangdisappearing menu bar items, panel, etc.05:56
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NickPrestabazhang, fixed by starting a new session instead of loading my previous one. >_>05:57
bazhangNickPresta: thanks! I'll remember that!05:57
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twylightis there a way to delete everything that kubuntu knows about a program?05:59
NickPrestatwylight, most of the time, you can delete the associated files in your home directory06:00
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twylightI've done that and it's done nothing06:00
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NickPrestatwylight, check for the default configuration files too. /etc/app/config is usually where they are, I believe06:00
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twylightfucking SL crashes even with wine emulation06:02
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stdin!language | twylight06:02
ubotutwylight: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.06:02
twylightsorry for the language but I've been getting this thing to do nothing but crash for hours06:02
NickPrestatwylight, SL?06:02
bazhangsecond life is notoriously unstable--even on windows or mac.06:03
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se7en^Of^9does anybody know how to install www.citadel.org on a web server ...06:03
tazgodxumm, i haave my computer set up. but nwo im adding a couple more HDDs, and i have them formatted for an LVM, but how can i set up the LVM to be a certain folder, as in /home?06:03
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NickPrestatwylight, http://secondlife.com/community/linux-alpha.php doesn't work?06:04
wersmy Wicd tray icon is invisible. any ideas?06:04
NickPrestase7en^Of^9, what do you mean install www.citadel.org on a webserver?06:04
the_hammerhey all anyone here have compiz fusion installed?06:04
twylightit crashes every time I try to log in06:04
NickPresta!ask | the_hammer06:04
ubotuthe_hammer: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)06:04
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se7en^Of^9NickPresta: i need to run citadel on a web server06:05
the_hammerim wondering what all it needs06:05
twylightshouldn't it tell you in the dependencies?06:05
the_hammeri installed it have a manager thing but not sure how to turn the actual compiz-fusion on06:05
NickPrestase7en^Of^9, the citadel.org has an installation entry in it's Knowledge Base06:05
twylightin konsole "compiz-fusion"06:05
the_hammeradvanced desktop effects settings is installed06:06
the_hammerhammer@Lenovo:~$ compiz-fusion06:06
the_hammerbash: compiz-fusion: command not found06:06
twylightwell that don't work06:06
the_hammeri must be missing something06:06
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the_hammerjust dunno what06:06
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twylighttry sudo apt-get install compiz-fusion06:06
twylightsee if that does anything interesting06:06
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twylightanyways can anyone help me with my secondlife problem06:07
the_hammerReading state information... Done06:07
the_hammerE: Couldn't find package compiz-fusion06:07
twylightthat's great06:07
twylightso you just want the 3d desktop effects right?06:07
the_hammermeanwhile it showed in synaptic and i installed everything06:07
the_hammerthe whole thing of it06:07
twylightgo for beryl06:08
the_hammerseen a demo vid with fishies going in the cube06:08
the_hammerand all kinds of stuff06:08
the_hammernaa i have beryl on another drive it isnt the same06:08
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects06:08
the_hammerstuff i seen for compiz-fusion makes beryl look old school06:08
tazgodxcompiz-fusion is the merger of beryl and compiz06:09
underdog5004the_hammer, not really...imho06:09
twylightfrigging secondlife is failing hard06:09
the_hammerberyl cant do the snow effects and the fishies in the cube06:09
underdog5004so...why not got explore first life?06:10
NickPrestathe_hammer, I understand what you mean, but Beryl can do the snow effects ;)06:10
twylightI mean it's not running06:10
underdog5004the_hammer, beryl can do snow...not sure about fishies06:10
twylightand I don't see why anyone would want to pollute their desktop with such an app06:10
NickPrestawell, #kubuntu, I'm off to bed. Goodnight all.06:10
the_hammerill find the vid and ill show u what i mean about the fish06:11
underdog5004twylight, second life or first life?06:11
underdog5004twylight, agreed06:11
twylightobviously my first life sucks pretty bad06:11
underdog5004the_hammer, I think that's only proof of concept...06:11
twylighthypothesis: all linux apps are unstable if not constantly updated06:11
twylightexperiment: attempt to log into secondlife06:12
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twylighthypothesis proven.06:12
twylightand such06:12
twylightI just want my secondlife06:12
twylightI have people waiting06:12
underdog5004I just want to level up in my first life...way more reqarding...too bad I can't powerlevel...06:12
underdog5004erm, not reqarding...rewarding06:12
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underdog5004just kidding, twylight06:15
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tazgodxis there a command to list my HDDs and list the partitions?06:18
underdog5004tazgodx, sudo fdisk -l06:19
tazgodxhmm, isn't sda supposed to be sata?06:20
twylighttest firing secondlife; no modifications to the graphical settings06:20
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twylightTHIS IS SATA!!!!!!!!!!!06:20
savetheWorldtonight you dine in IDE.06:21
underdog5004tazgodx, yeah, but with edgy(?) on up, ubuntu uses scsi emulation for ide drives...I think that's right anyway06:21
tazgodxjust curious cause my HDDs names are sda1 and sda2. and i have 2 IDE06:21
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twylightthis is blasphemy! this is windows!06:21
tazgodxok, thanks underdog500406:21
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wsjuniorusing fglrx driver im able to use X but all tty's goes black, is there any way to fix it?06:28
wsjuniori used to set vga=791 to fix this problem but it seems it doesnt work anymore :(06:28
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tazgodxok, so im looking for a good LVM howto guide so i can set up an LVM, but haven't found one yet. anyone have a good one?06:30
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killer_twylight: your second life is coming.. to get there the logical thing would be to be born again, hmm06:35
tazgodxthanks bazhang this is better than what i was reading06:35
bazhangsure tazgodx06:35
bazhanggoogle is your friend..haha06:35
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tazgodxyeah i was searching google, guess you have better search terms06:37
bazhanglvm +guide +how to06:38
tazgodxhaha, much better than mine06:39
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the_hammerwho here said beryl can do snow effects?06:45
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twylightI need a smoke06:47
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the_hammerthat was interesting06:48
the_hammerwtf happened06:49
navetswhere can I find help with C-Shell06:49
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twylightalso, (off topic) I am aroused by my girlfriend's lack of clothing06:50
the_hammerin the ocean theres lots of shells there06:50
navetstwylight: me 206:50
the_hammerthats funny i was klined hehe06:50
the_hammernot even sure why but didnt work anyways dam newbie admins heh06:50
killer_twylight: maybe we could all join together and get you a gift card for a clothing store06:51
twylightall of you join together and check my website regularly06:51
twylightbecause that will work wonders for my adsense account when I get it working06:51
twylightalso, buy t-shirts when I start selling them06:51
robthe_hammer, I removed it, it worked just fine :)06:51
the_hammerwell thanks06:52
the_hammerrather like it here06:52
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the_hammerSysinfo for 'Lenovo': Linux 2.6.22-13-generic running KDE 3.5.7, CPU: GenuineIntel(R)CPUT2060@1.60GHz at 800 MHz (3192 bogomips), , RAM: 537/1002MB, 114 proc's, 4.55min up07:09
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the_hammernot showing the debian sid now heh07:10
the_hammerhas a mind of its own07:10
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Dr_willisYou name the pc's after the brand also eh? :)07:11
Dr_willisI got one box called "Audigy" another called "ShuttleX"07:11
the_hammerlol yup07:12
Dr_willisThen one called "ReadyForTrash"07:12
tazgodxok, so what would cause "fdisk -l" to return with no output?07:12
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the_hammerthat must be the 1 with windows vista?07:12
the_hammerready for trash hehe07:12
Dr_willisThis one is called "MythTVBox" :)07:12
the_hammerfriends dont let friends use windows :)07:12
the_hammeri heard about myth tv thats a usb thing right07:13
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the_hammerwatch tv on a usb thing?07:14
the_hammeram i right or is that different07:14
tazgodxcontrol tv thru tv tuners07:14
the_hammerok cool07:15
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tazgodxanyone know why fdisk would return with no output?07:15
the_hammerdoes it say anything liek no fixed disk present?07:16
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twylightwww.wolfquest.org/ omg want07:16
tazgodxno, it just returns back with absolutly nothing07:16
squidyhello.. how can i do compiz start with kde startup without creating script and put it into autostart directory?07:18
Dr_williswell aint that being picky. :)07:18
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Dr_willisedit the startkde script perhaps?07:18
edson_Hola a todos y todas07:18
squidyDr_willis, startkde script?07:18
edson_alguien habla espaol07:19
squidyif i create a script with compiz --replace or something like that and put it into ~/.kde/Autostart.. when kde starts the adept_notify doesn't stay at tray... :(07:19
Dr_willissquidy,  you are using gutsy? or feisty?07:20
squidyDr_willis, gutsy07:20
Dr_willisI imagine in the next week or so there will be some howto/guides on the 'proper' way to get compiz going with Kubuntu Gutsy.07:20
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Dr_willisI havent done it yet myself. so cant advise more them to say check the ubuntu forums07:21
Dr_willisI may try to get it going right now.. lets see.. to the google!07:21
vbattsedson_, you might try #kubuntu-es07:21
squidyDr_willis, ok dude... but it trouble was occurring on feisty too...07:22
Dr_williscompiz is very much a work in progress. :)07:22
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Dr_willislots of bits that have to interact just right.07:23
schistegood morning folks :)07:23
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Dr_williswell time to see if it worked...07:24
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peter_ can anyone help my pair my bluetooth devices u......i'm having problems pairing ....07:30
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squidyi've got a trouble with my bluetooth too... it's working when i try to send a file to a mobile paired.. but if i want to send a file to my desktop it doesn't work..07:32
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mark4646hey all07:35
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peter_my own doesnt pair at all.....what were your steps for installling bluetooth07:36
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twylightplaneshift does not work07:38
fawxhello..i tried 2 start a game..but then my comp restarted whut does this mean..?07:39
twylightwhat game07:39
mark4646what is a good program to use windows programs?07:39
fawxtrickster online07:39
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mark4646ok.  is that the best one?07:40
twylightupdate your drivers07:40
twylightit is07:40
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twylightno prob07:40
fawxu said up date my drivers?07:40
twylightthat might help07:40
twylightgraphics drivers07:40
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Dr_williswee.. woobly windows under Kubuntu Gutsy..07:41
Dr_willisand a lot of little issues.. :)07:41
Dr_willissquidy,  i can say at this time.. Id not mess with Compiz on Kubuntu..   noticing several .. issues.07:43
ardchoilleI have discovered kommander editor07:45
ardchoilleThis thing is nice :)07:45
ardchoilleI used it to write this:  http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/9017/kmdrrh3.png07:46
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fawxmayb an another nub question how do i check which graphic drives i have already?07:49
schisteHi, I do have some kind of problem with kopete. as soon as I try to get connected to msn or jabber it crashes.07:52
waltercoolim trying to do a multicd boot in a dvd, for my 'buntu distros, someone know how do one?07:53
schistegiving me the following error "impossible to create the module in/out07:53
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schistedoes anyone have any clue on how I could fix it ?07:57
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twylight I am almost coming close to nearly getting secondlife to barely almost work08:01
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fawxi'm trying 2 make maplestory,rappelz,nd trickster work.....ugh..08:02
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timbo__I played second life once08:04
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timbo__I think winde doors has it too08:05
hangthedjdoes anybody know how to use the --geometry switch in kde applications?08:05
hangthedjwhat the format is?08:05
fawxcan i make mpegs work on kubuntu?08:05
hangthedjit says do man X for format, but i have no manual entry for X08:06
twylightsudo apt-get install mplayer08:06
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twylightor sudo apt-get install vlc08:06
twylightget both08:06
fawxtype that where?08:06
timbo__i like vlc better.... seems to be more stable08:06
addykin konsole08:06
twylightvlc kicks major ass08:07
hangthedjvlc has never worked for me ever.  i like kmplayer08:07
timbo__i would have to agree with you08:07
fawxdo i need both08:07
timbo__dang, im installing gnome and its taking a while08:07
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fawxvlc nd mplayer08:08
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fawxlinux is weird08:12
hangthedjyour weird08:12
hangthedjjust kidding.08:13
hangthedji thought they would be funny08:13
hangthedji was wrong.08:13
fawxit's weird getting use to08:13
hangthedjyou get used to it faster than you'd think. ;)08:14
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twylightdoes anyone else have problems with secondlife?08:15
hangthedji don't know what that is08:17
Lynouretwylight: If you do, the company's own support is probably the place to ask.08:17
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twylightthing is08:17
twylightthey won't let me log in08:17
twylightfurget it\08:18
LynoureDoes not sound like a Kubuntu problem, then.08:18
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twylightjust keep trying08:19
twylight<(-.-<) <(-.-)> (>-.-)>08:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about emoticons - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:20
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots08:20
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twylightfail failfail fail fail08:24
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fail - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about distrojunkies - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:26
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php08:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kopete - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about anythingatall - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:29
ubotuSaying "It says nothing", "It does nothing" is generally not very useful for troubleshooting. Please be as specific as possible: if you see a black screen, say so, if you see a shell prompt, say so, if you see an !error message, say so - Also, most !CLI commands don't print anything when they succeed, but only when they fail.08:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about apple - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:29
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents08:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about damnsmall - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about yellowdog - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:30
ubotutux is the Linux Mascot - http://www.isc.tamu.edu/~lewing/linux/08:30
twylightenough bot abuse08:30
jMerliNhi all08:30
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about adeptinstaller - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:33
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mark4646how do i use wine?08:35
ussermark4646: install it08:35
ussermark4646: do winecfg08:35
mark4646i installed a program but now how do i run it?08:35
ussermark4646: cd $HOME08:36
ussermark4646: cd .wine08:36
ussermark4646: cd drive_c08:36
usserand u're in C:08:36
usserthen navigate to where program installed and point wine to executable08:36
mark4646but i clicked on the icon but it didnt work08:36
usserie wine pgm.exe08:36
ussermark4646: those icons often dont work08:37
ussermark4646: what program is that?08:37
mark4646i installed msn08:37
mark4646i wanted to see if it would work08:37
ussermark4646: msn messenger?08:37
fawxuse kopete08:37
dsmithuse kopete08:37
se7en^Of^9why use msn?08:38
ussermark4646: its probably not gonna work as no one really bothered making it work with wine08:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kopete - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:38
ubotuInstant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.08:38
mark4646i am using gaim right now08:38
ubotupidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info. To install Pidgin please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallPidgin2.008:38
fawxpidgin? weird name08:39
dsmithAOL 5uX0r08:39
mark4646aol sucks08:39
mark4646its just a big virus08:39
dsmithsteve case can kiss my fat a5508:39
dsmitherr...wait, is he still around?08:40
mark4646so most programs work in wine then?08:40
mark4646just not msn?08:40
schistewell both of you use kopete?08:40
ussermark4646: a lot of program work in wine, a lot dont08:40
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fawxall the games i wana play don't08:41
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mark4646WOW work?08:41
mark4646i used to play that game08:41
dsmithHL worls08:41
dsmithHL2 sorta works08:42
fawxi think WOW can work on wine08:42
schisteIt does08:42
schisteas most of the game I have08:43
silleanyone have an idea how to change domain or work group in kubuntu??  or even how to switch on/off a network connection??08:43
se7en^Of^9www.blizzplanet.com/content/459/ mark464608:44
fawxis there a prog better tha kaffeine?08:44
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schistebut kaffeine is pretty good08:45
jermainhi everyone08:45
Lynouresille: domain in the windows/samba sense?08:45
mark4646thats cool se7enof 908:45
sillei guess.  not sure.  will give scenario...08:46
mark4646i dont have time to play it anymore though because of school08:46
sillehave one work group for most of my microcrap pc's08:46
sillehave one stand alone pc that is dual boot win and kubuntu08:47
Lynouresille: there are many ways to turn off/on a network connection. If you use network-manager, you can just enter Offline mode08:47
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sillethe standalone was given a diff workgroup name so that it could share an internet connection with the other networked pcs.08:47
sillehowever, since it had a diff workgroup name, it was hidden from teh rest of pcs having a diff workgroup name08:48
mark4646will kubuntu upgrade to 7.10 along with unbuntu?08:48
mark4646they are basicly the same right?  just different desktop managers?08:49
sillekubuntu appears to see ALL the networked pcs... for security reasons, i really prefer to keep the two setups from being to "see" ea othetr.08:49
jermaini'm making a script and want the user to input a variable, can someone tell how to achieve this?08:50
jermain(unix btw)08:50
silleI would prefer not to have to enale/disable all teh time.  would prefer to have similar outcome of hiding one workgroup/domain form a dissimilar workgroup/domain... as stated muchas in using microcrap windoz.08:51
level1hi, I have a problem with vesa... basically, it want 1920x1200 resolution but I can't get it higher than 1600x120008:51
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jermainback to google again hehe :p08:51
jermainl8r guys ^^08:52
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fawxis there a radio 4 linux or can it use a random 1 off the net?08:53
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se7en^Of^9shoutcast.com > amarok fawx08:55
goofy-1is there a way to start an app that is in the autostart directory minimized ?08:56
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ohshitbeing philosophical is dangerous08:57
ohshitwithout qualifications08:57
ohshitif i am a philosopher i should get a phd in philosophy08:58
ohshitbut i am not and i am not qualified08:58
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silleany idea on how to change domain/workgroup name of network connection so that it would not be capable of seeing pcs runnign under a different workgroup or domani??08:58
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs08:59
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fawxdamn he left09:00
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:02
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sillepls,pls, pls,.  desperate for assist in being able to hide a particular workgroup (windowz) from my linux (closet) pc.  I would prefer that these two system run indepedently from earch other and are not able to "see" oneanother".  both my linux (kubuntu) system and ms windowz systems are running through the same routher and sharing an internet connection.09:07
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mark4646cant you just make a different subnet for each groups of computers?09:09
mark4646then they cant see each other09:09
sillei hadnt been able to in windows.  Instead, best buy geek squad guy old me to set up my closet dual boot win/kubuntu with one workgroup name andthe other 4 networked windows only pcs with a different workgroup name.09:10
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sillewhen starting up my closet dual boot system in windowzs, it does not see the other pcs.  however, when booting up in linux, alll, workgroups seen.  :{09:11
mark4646i think you can set up your computers to be on diffent subnets09:12
mark4646then they can see each other09:12
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fawxlinux is all-knowing and all-seeing srry lol09:12
sillewhich particular sets of subnets go with which particular ip addresses.?09:13
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silleex cross over adhocs use
mark4646there is a calculator09:14
silletypical addresses beginning w/ ... calculator??09:14
mark4646that helps you get the different hosts for the different subnets09:15
ohshithi mark464609:15
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mark4646there are certain hosts that go with certan subnets09:15
mark4646so when you set the subnet it gives the host rang09:16
mark4646then you can set the ip address to that with the subnet09:16
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sillek.  this sounds a lot more safe than teh suggestion by geek squader to just group by work groups.  as was joked a few lines above, linux IS all seeing and knowing...09:17
mark4646haha yeah09:18
mark4646workgroups are for windows09:18
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mark4646and they dont really use them that much anyways09:18
sillemark4646 -->> will definately try the link to the calculator09:18
mark4646i am taking a networking class at college09:19
mark4646i have a bunch of subnetting homework due tuesday...09:19
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mark4646you can also download subnet calculator09:20
sillehave been meaning to do the same... for personal application and maintenance of my home network.09:20
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sillebut my fultime gig does not allow much time for classes theese days.09:20
sillethx mark464609:21
mark4646your welcome09:21
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mark4646thats to download a subnet calc if you dont like that internet one09:21
mark4646well got to go to bed09:23
mark4646talk to you later09:23
sillethx again... will try to figure it09:23
sille ; }09:23
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fawxwhat's the virus scanner 4 linux?09:28
ohshitmark4646, bye09:28
fawxif any 1 knows09:28
ubotuA/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2109:28
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ohshitfawx, there is no virus for linux effectively if you use only open-source software and given that you are willing to look at all sources if necessary09:29
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ohshitbut of course, this is impractical so this state cannot be attained09:29
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ohshitfawx, i have an idea. let's say there is a minimal system that is guaranteed virus free(it satisfies the above condition for no virus). then we have the option of not needing a virus scanner by choosing not to install more programs.09:31
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ohshiti would suggest that the minimal virus-free system may be enabled by built-in automated self-checking mechnism.09:32
ohshiti have insufficient technical knowledge, but i'm just describing my thoughts09:33
twylightthe minimal virus free system is called a fresh install09:33
ohshitfresh install + self-checking mechanism09:33
fawxlinux already self checks09:34
hangthedjdoes anybody know how to use the --geometry switch in kde applications?09:34
ohshitanywayz... thx for listening09:34
hangthedjit says do man X for format, but i have no manual entry for X09:34
hangthedjwhat the format is?09:34
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:34
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ohshittwylight, fresh install must preserve itself on all times09:35
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twylightso make nothing writeable09:35
ohshitor write then revert conditionally09:35
twylightyou're asking for a live cd09:35
hangthedjlike if you run kdialog, before anything you can do --geometry09:35
twylightwhen you restart, all changes go away, right?09:36
hangthedjbut if you want it 30 x 40, 30x40 doesn't work and it says check man X, but there is no manual entry09:36
ohshiti guess what i'm saying is like a customizable live-cd09:36
twylightI doubt it's not out there09:36
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer09:37
ohshitso you have generic live-cd A then you generate customized version B for any unique user09:37
fawxwait so ur saying it's not written 2 my hard drive really?09:37
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ohshitno, i'm just making an analogy of live-cd which has insufficient capabilities09:37
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fawx::learning stuff::09:38
ohshityeah maybe system creates image of real time and makes similar systems real time, thereby evolving and virus-free09:38
ohshitthis is after fresh-install09:39
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twylightsounds like you've got a project on your hands09:40
ohshitfresh-install i on to harddrive at time 0, then image j' at time 1 so revert to i' which is similar to i09:40
twylightsomething like that09:40
fawxit's probable09:40
fawx:: my head hurtz ::09:41
ohshiti don't know how we could calculate virus-free condition09:41
ohshitso that i and i' are both virus free, therefore similar09:41
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waltercoolspeaking simmilar, someone know how do a multiboot dvd of linux?09:42
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twylightI always had trouble with those09:44
twylighttrying to install fedora core09:44
twylightit's like they want you to have 4 dvd drives09:45
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twylightfucking cat09:46
ubotuPlease watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.09:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jesus - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:46
fawxtry hosea09:47
ohshitwhy fuck09:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hosea - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:47
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ohshitwhy fuck ppl compromise my system09:47
ohshitwhat did i do09:47
ohshiti know nothing09:47
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.09:47
ubotuPlease watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.09:47
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about zomg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:47
fawxu changed oh..09:47
fawxis this channel supposed 2 be international or U.S.?09:49
Lynourefawx: it's international support channel for kubuntu09:49
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ubotulife is something very few people know about in this channel - and anyway, it's probably offtopic, perhaps you want to try #ubuntu-offtopic09:51
beaunewbie question: How can I edit the command of an icon so that it asks me for su password and will run as such ingraphical mode?09:51
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twylightquestions like that give me an idea09:51
ohshitbeau, are you using kde?09:51
Lynourebeau: icon? you mean a launcher on the desktop, right?09:52
VSpikebeau: go to properties, application tab, advanced options, run as other user09:52
beauRight. Or even in K menu or self made links.09:52
fawxwhut idea09:52
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beauThank you!09:52
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VSpikebeau: you put "root" in there, to make it require sudo09:53
Lynourebeau: or just add kdesu  in front of the command name.09:53
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vidjiqqn sait si il y a un equivalent a msn ?09:54
beaukdesu - I think that's what I want. Thx.09:54
pag!fr | vidji09:54
ubotuvidji: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.09:54
Lynourevidji: maybe  kopete?09:54
ohshithow do ppl like who make south park get started?09:55
ohshitand how do they keep making revenue?09:55
NightBirdohshit: as musicians09:55
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NightBirdohshit: south park was meant to be a starting point for their band... their band still hasn't taken off09:55
vidjithank I didn't think you are english09:55
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NightBirdalso, pandering to the least common denominator09:55
Lynourevidji: I'm not, I'm a Finn09:55
beauI really needed the answer to that question, but furthermore tomorrow, I'm giving a workshop at the Fl state green party convention on why they need to explore linux. The question was a test for IRC question response time...09:56
beauAnything you think they should know?09:56
Lynourebeau: this channel is an unusual mess today :/09:56
beauI am actually a newbie09:56
fawxme 209:56
Lynourebeau: everyone was once. :)09:56
fawxsum ppl r born with it09:57
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LynoureOne has to be a teen or younger to have been born with Linux =)09:57
NightBirdno, everyone starts a newbie.  it just tends to vary on how long it takes them to overcome that09:58
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beauDoes anyone have anything to say that they think the Florida Green Party should know when making their software choices? I mean beyond the standard party line, which I intend to trumpet.09:58
fawxno...if u believe in god which i don't nd yes this is off topic god kew wen he was born jesus 2 be correct09:59
ohshitwhat are you talking about?09:59
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!09:59
fawxi am in offtopic10:00
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beauSo, in summary - come to the forum for specific questions. If you just want to chat, find that forums. Thanks, bye, I'll be back.10:00
ohshitno worries man... we are all human10:00
ohshitif i die, some people will cry, but only for a while10:01
ohshitit's OK10:01
fawxi like chatting here..buti'll stop10:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fail - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:02
hangthedjfawx, your not in kubuntu-offtopic?10:02
Hobbseeohshit: dude....offtopic10:02
fawxi mean i have it open 210:02
hangthedjyour not in #kubuntu-offtopic10:04
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fawxLinux Rox w00t!!!10:05
ohshitfawx, i totally agree10:05
twylightcan someone find me the old linux second life client10:06
twylightbecause I've looked10:06
twylighthint: it's not on their site because they're a bunch of buggy software pushing asshats10:07
fawxno u haven't..digg deep yuong grasshopper10:07
Lynouretwylight: old?10:07
hangthedji wish i knew what second life was, cause you make it sound neccessary, and if thats the case i need it.10:07
Lynouretwylight: there is one on http://secondlife.com/community/linux-alpha.php10:07
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ubotuYou should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines10:07
twylightrhe OLD ONE10:07
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twylightnot the new version10:08
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Lynouretwylight: I'm not their employer or a second life user. I don't know what version you mean without you telling me and you are not telling10:08
twylight1.18.3.5 is the current version10:08
twylightI want or
Lynouretwylight: I'd ask Second Life Linux forum, someone there bound to have it, or access to their version control.10:09
twylightthing is10:10
hangthedjis there a program to install tar.gz source files?10:10
fawxsrry but whut is SL?10:10
twylightI can't access their forum without logging into secondlife10:10
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NightBirdfawx: massivly multiplayer online... chat....10:10
Lynourehangthedj: you can unpack them with tar -zxf filename10:10
twylightand I can't fucking log into secondlife without an older fucking verison of the client10:10
twylightexcuse my language10:10
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.10:10
Lynourehangthedj: the rest varies by package.10:10
hangthedji know, i'm just curious cause i'm working on a bash script to help people that don't know how.10:10
fawxlike xfire10:11
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NightBirdtwylight: doesn't it do a version check anyways?10:11
fawxor it's a game10:11
NightBirdfawx: well... it's got 3d avatars in it10:11
twylightthe client version crashes every time I try to log in10:11
Lynouretwylight: Chances are no one here uses SL except you, thus cannot post anything into the forums for you.10:11
hangthedji don't even know what SL is, and nobody wants to tell me :(10:12
twylightSL is a social game10:12
NightBirdit's 3d chat10:12
fawxnever heard of it10:12
hangthedjahh, thanks10:12
fawxlike that peguin game10:12
NightBirdit lets you create objects and attach scripts to them as well...10:12
twylightit has it's own economy as well10:13
fawxso it's like an rpg w/ no fighting10:13
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NightBirdfawx: pretty much...10:13
NightBirdand more peni being thrown at people10:13
hangthedjor i mean word.10:14
fawxcome on twy no pvp10:14
fawxwhere u can kill nubs10:14
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twylightI want to access it because I cannot access it10:15
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Lynouretwylight: https://secure-web14.secondlife.com/community/support.php does not require a working client program.10:16
twylightwill you listen to me when I say that I cannot access the damned forums10:17
hangthedjso does anybody know if there is a program or script to install source files?10:17
Lynouretwylight: this is a Kubuntu problem how?10:17
twylightbecause it crashes under kubuntu10:17
twylighthang: ./configure10:17
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Lynouretwylight: what web browsers have you tried? Firefox might work better than Konqueror10:18
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paghangthedj, " ./configure && make && sudo make install "10:18
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twylightI use firefox10:18
hangthedjtwylight, i know, scroll back, i'm writing a program to install source files for people that don't know how.10:18
devianceWhat the name of the program used to change the login screen10:18
hangthedji'm just wondering if there is a program already.10:18
twylightthe program is called readme.txt10:18
twylightand it's not a program10:19
twylightit's a manual10:19
Lynouretwylight: If you start behaving, and after this take your SL stuff elsewhere, I can post a support request on your behalf (as it works fine as a guest on my konqueror)10:19
Jesus_saveskde looks pretty good now10:19
holyguyverhow do I get Kubuntu to mount a USB mass storage device?10:19
fawxis Sl supposed 2run on windows?10:19
ardchoilledeviance: kdmtheme10:19
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Jesus_savesit looks better than windows 98 at least10:19
ardchoilledeviance: It's a module in kcontrol10:19
Lynouretwylight: just /msg me with the text for the support request10:19
twylightit's supposed to run on mac, windows and linux10:19
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter10:19
hangthedjok, i want people that have no idea about linux, or what a tar.gz or tar.bz2 or .tgz to be able to install a source package, by clicking on a script.10:20
paghangthedj, I've heard of program called " kompile " - but I'm not sure, was that an actual program or just an idea. try looking at kde-apps.org10:20
hangthedjand i'm just wondering if anything like that exists.10:20
devianceardchoille: Isnt there a porgam where you can install themes?10:20
devianceThat just lets you change the background10:20
hangthedjpag, thank you. :)10:20
ardchoilledeviance: Yes, there is.. it's kdmtheme10:20
tokoronakdmthememanager, IIRC.10:20
NightBirdhangthedj: build a .deb package maybe?  that way they should just double click it, and it should install it10:20
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hangthedjNightBird, i didn't even think about that, thats a good idea.10:21
ardchoilledeviance: sudo apt-get install kdmtheme10:21
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devianceAhh, got it10:21
NightBirdI think .deb's only work for binary though, but it may be able to do a compile and install10:21
devianceIt wasn't installed :D10:21
ardchoilledeviance: After it's installed, go to the laste section in kcontrol and you'll see it10:21
fawxmount is a funni word10:21
devianceOkay ^_^10:21
hangthedja little extra programing to make sure they have all the dh stuff, but worth it.10:21
ardchoilledeviance: It's just a nice gui to install and choose themes, you could have done the same thing in a text editor, tho10:22
devianceI could, but I'm lazy10:22
devianceNow to get some themes. Kde-look should do10:23
ardchoilledeviance: Yep, tons of them there10:23
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Lynouredeviance: if in the process you find out how to change Amarok analyzer colours, let me know :)10:26
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holyguyverhow can I view the files on my USB Mass Storage device?10:26
devianceHaha I wish10:26
devianceIt could be part of the colour settings10:26
broc93good morning all10:27
ardchoilleholyguyver: You'd have to mount the device and then cd to it10:27
Lynoureholyguyver: normally it's just a matter of plugging the device in and choosing from the options that pop up the one that displays the files10:27
holyguyverhow do I mount it?10:27
Lynouredeviance: tried everything obvious yesterday, not that simple. Starting to think they are hardcoded10:27
ardchoilleholyguyver: plug it in?10:27
Lynoureholyguyver: it should automatically mount10:27
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holyguyverI plugged it in, the options thing came, I said open in new window, & nothing opened, I went to disk & file system & it said that indeed it is there & it is /dev/sda1 so I went there & nothing only says a block device10:28
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ardchoilleholyguyver: Now that you know it's /dev/sda1, open a terminal, type "mount" and look where that device is mounted. Then cd to that mount point10:29
hangthedjholyguyver, is usbmount and usbutils installed?10:29
ardchoilleprobably /mnt/media or something10:30
Lynoureholyguyver: what kind of usb device it is?10:30
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holyguyverit is simple tech simpledrive USB 500GB External Hardrive10:30
Lynoureholyguyver: there are at least some 'smart' sony ones that have their own MS Windows software that needs to run :/10:30
Lynoureholyguyver: what's the filesystem on it?10:30
ardchoilleLynoure: I wonder if the sony devices have embedded rootkits, lol10:31
holyguyverI have not heard of usbmount nor usbutils so I do not know if they are installed10:31
ardchoilleThey're never gonna live that down10:31
beauMe again: Deadline approaching fast. Can someone direct me to a kubuntu gui for setting up an ad-hoc network? I'm going to run the presentation by directing...10:31
hangthedjusb HDs are usually at /dev/sdb something.10:31
holyguyverardchoille what is cd?10:31
Lynoureardchoille: not after doing it twice, oh well.10:31
beauusers to connect to my web server for supplemental info10:31
beauthere in no web access at the location10:31
hangthedjholyguyver, you can do dpkg -l|grep usb in a konsole and if it has an i infront of it, its installed.10:31
ardchoille!bash | holyguyver10:32
ubotuholyguyver: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal10:32
Lynourebeau: ad hoc wifi network? Never done it, but I can dig for one...10:32
beauThx so much. No sleep, 4 hour deadline10:32
se7en^Of^9holyguyver: dpkg -l | grep usbmount   shows you if you have the package installed10:32
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holyguyverhangthedj I checked & I don't even have a dev/sdb10:33
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hangthedjholyguyver, try lsusb and see if your hd is listed10:34
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ardchoillese7en^Of^9:  "dpkg -l | grep usbmount" returns nothing. However, "apt-cache policy usbmount" does tell me whether it's installed or not ;)10:35
Lynourebeau: haven't read them through yet, but https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Adhoc looks promising10:35
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se7en^Of^9sudo dpkg -L usbmount ardchoille sorry10:35
beauBTW, I'll never buy a playstation for fear of imbedded rootkits in my room with mic, cam, and web access10:35
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beauLynoure: going there now. Thx!10:36
hangthedjif usbmount is not installed dpkg -l | grep usbmount will return nothing.10:36
ardchoillese7en^Of^9: Ah, ok10:36
ardchoillese7en^Of^9: Thanks for that info10:36
se7en^Of^9sudo dpkg -L usbmount10:36
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ardchoillese7en^Of^9: Why would you need sudo for that?10:36
holyguyverardchoille & se7en^of^9 I do have usb, but not usbmount10:37
se7en^Of^9but it'snot installed on my box and it works as well10:37
se7en^Of^9i do need sudo you might not need it10:37
hangthedjholyguyver, you can also do ls /dev/sd* and see what the output is.10:37
ardchoilleholyguyver: I don't have usbmount installed and usb devices work fine10:37
ardchoilleholyguyver: If you type "mount" does it show where that device is mounted?10:38
hangthedji don't have usbmount installed either.10:38
ardchoilleyou don't need it10:38
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se7en^Of^9don't need it10:38
hangthedjbut flash drives and usb HDs might be different? not sure10:38
holyguyverhang the output is /dev/sda /dev/sda110:39
se7en^Of^9should work without usbmount10:39
hangthedjholyguyver, so it seems its not recognizing it.10:39
ardchoilleholyguyver: I told you how to see those files. Have you tried it?10:39
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hangthedjholyguyver, you aren't on a live cd are you?10:40
ardchoilleHe said the device was mounted. All he has to do is type "mount". see where it's mounted and cd there10:40
holyguyverso many poeple telling me so many different things, I have tried all of the suggestions, but please archoille do tell me what was your suggestion again?10:40
holyguyverwhat is cd again?10:40
ardchoillechange directory10:40
holyguyverthank you10:41
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ardchoilleholyguyver: Now that you know it's /dev/sda1, open a terminal, type "mount" and look where that device is mounted. Then cd to that mount point10:41
holyguyverit gave me an odd output when I hit mount that I can't understand, so I will pastebin it for you guys to see10:42
ardchoilleholyguyver: ok10:42
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se7en^Of^9holyguyver: look for something like this line  /dev/sda2 on /media/sda2 type ext3 (rw)10:44
hangthedji'm confused cause if its usb it should be sdb10:44
ardchoillehangthedj: not if it's the first partition10:45
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ardchoilleholyguyver: it's not mounted10:46
holyguyverbut it shows up in the disk & file system thing10:46
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ardchoilleI thought you said it was mounted10:46
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holyguyverdoesn't that mean it is mounted?10:46
holyguyverhow do I mount it?10:47
ardchoilleif it's not recognised as a device, you won't be able to mount it10:47
holyguyverbut it is10:47
ardchoilleunplug it, plug it back in and try the gui (open in new window) again10:47
holyguyveris there a website like pastebin where I can paste a screenshot?10:48
ardchoilleholyguyver: http://imageshack.us/10:48
ardchoilleholyguyver: Are you running Feisty or Gutsy or other?10:49
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Jesus_saveshi jason10:54
jasonhow does this work10:54
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ardchoilleYou ask a question and someone tries to answer10:55
ardchoilleholyguyver: yes?10:55
holyguyveralright I hope this link works http://img233.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1dv9.png10:55
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hangthedjneat, ok, i'm on gutsy, so i forgot about hda.  shouldn't you be able to do like, 'sudo mkdir /mnt/sda; sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda'10:56
ardchoilleholyguyver: hold on10:56
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ardchoillehangthedj: Gutsy help in #ubuntu+110:56
jasoni need to install my printer how10:56
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ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows10:57
holyguyverif it worked, then tell me once again, it does not recognize it?10:57
hangthedjardchoille, gotcha, i just wasn't thinking, i've been using it since the first release.. sorry10:57
twylightI love you all10:57
twylightyou're all awesome10:57
ardchoilleholyguyver: open a terminal and type this: ls /mnt/sda110:57
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ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!10:57
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hangthedjhaha, ardchoille, you didn't miss a beat there.10:58
hangthedjthat was cool.10:58
ardchoilleGotta love the bot10:58
holyguyverardchoille: ls: /mnt/sda1: No such file or directory10:58
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ardchoilleholyguyver: Good, now type this:  sudo mkdir /mnt/sda1 && sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda110:59
ardchoilleholyguyver: Mind the spaces10:59
hangthedjhey, i just said that10:59
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ardchoillehangthedj: Yeah, but I thought he said it was mounted before11:00
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holyguyveralright, I am not sure what it did, after I gave the password, it waited a few seconds & then went back to the thing where I may type, without showing any more info11:01
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ardchoilleholyguyver: ok, now try this: cd /mnt/sda1 && ls11:01
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ardchoilletwylight: lol11:01
hangthedjtouch her.txt && grep her.txt ;)11:02
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ardchoillenow now11:02
holyguyverbash: cd: /mnt/sda1: Permission denied11:02
ardchoilleah hah11:02
hangthedjholyguyver, try putting sudo in front of those commands.11:02
ardchoillenot sure why it mounted rwx------11:03
hangthedjyeah thats kinda weird.11:04
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holyguyversudo: cd: command not found11:04
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hangthedjtry 'sudo ls /mnt/sda1'11:05
holyguyverwell it just gave me a list of it's uppist layer folders11:06
ardchoilleholyguyver: Ok, that tells me it's mounted at /mnt/sda111:06
schistecd doesn't need sudo11:07
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ardchoilleschiste: It does if root is the only one allowed to enter the folder11:07
schistenormally not11:07
schisteyou can enter the folder11:07
schistebut you won't be able to do a thing11:07
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holyguyveralright I just tried going to /mnt/sda1 & it said I do not have access rights to this location11:08
schistetry cd /mnt/sda1/11:08
hangthedjif its not readable by users or other, i don't think it will let you read it.11:08
ardchoilleschiste: if a folder is rwx------ and owned by root, the user won't be able to cd11:08
schistewhy is it in rwx----- ? Oo11:08
ardchoille[02:02]  <holyguyver> bash: cd: /mnt/sda1: Permission denied11:08
ardchoilleschiste: That's what I'm wondering11:09
schisteswitch to a root session so11:09
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ardchoilleschiste: Careful, this fella didn't know what "cd" was for and you want him to use a root session?11:09
schistewell if he do what we say should be ok11:10
schistebut he has no choice11:10
holyguyverall I did was plug in the usb cord, how did it get into rwx?11:10
ardchoilleholyguyver: It mounted like that, don't know why11:10
schistewhat kind of drive is it?11:11
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holyguyveran external harddrive11:11
schisteotherwise you can try the easy way first11:11
ardchoilleholyguyver: Try this: sudo chmod a+x /mnt/sda111:11
schistein your ..; heuu... the control settings (?)11:11
schistecheck how it is mounting and change it11:12
holyguyverchmod: changing permissions of `/mnt/sda1': Read-only file system11:12
ardchoilleah hah, it mounted ro instead of rw11:12
ardchoilleNever had that happen to me11:12
schistewhat's the file system11:12
schisteit did happen to me once11:12
ardchoilleschiste: I'll hand this off to you, I do't know how to remount for rw11:13
schistethe first time I plugged a external drive in on my feisty11:13
holyguyverit is ntfs, but I have ntfs-3g installed on this computer11:13
holyguyverI am on fiesty11:13
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schisteardchoille: I did it the easy way iirc11:13
ardchoillentfs, figures11:13
schistethrough the control settings I think11:13
schisteIt's some kind of "protection"11:13
snookje chercher une perssone qui pourais meder sous lutilisation de kubuntus11:14
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schistesnook: #kubuntu-fr11:14
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holyguyverso, how about do I go about this schiste?11:14
schisteK menu11:14
schistecontroll panel or control settings or... well something like that11:15
schistedon't remember wich one11:15
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schisteholyguyver: or system settings11:16
holyguyverisn't control panel the windows version of KDE System settings?11:16
ardchoilleholyguyver: I'll let someone else take over from here. But, I do suggest you find a good bash tutorial and become familiar with navigating the file system from the command line.11:16
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schisteyou'll learn a lot11:16
holyguyverhey I didn't know what bash was until about 40 minutes ago11:17
schisteand as it's an external drive, the worst you could do is... well nothin worst11:17
ardchoilleholyguyver: lol11:17
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holyguyverso anyway in system settings, how do I go about the switch?11:17
schisteyou have two tabs11:18
schisteone is named advanced11:18
schistego there11:18
holyguyverI am already there as ard saw in the screen shot11:18
holycowthere arent that bmany commands to know anyway11:19
schisteso file system11:19
schisteholycow: basicly nope11:19
schisteexept if you want do advanced stuff11:19
holyguyverhere schiste is the screenshot I sent earlier http://img233.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1dv9.png11:20
Vosperis the auatomatix site down?11:20
schisteit's oddly weird!11:21
schisteOk the swith to superuser mode11:21
ardchoilleschiste: Would it help if he unmounted and remounted with:  "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1"  ?11:21
schisteAdministrator mode11:21
holycowi hope its down forever11:21
ardchoille<-- just throwing ideas out there11:21
schisteardchoille: temporarly but he would have to do this every time11:21
ardchoilleschiste: Ah, true11:21
schistebut it's really weird11:21
schistelook it doesn't even show the file system11:22
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ardchoilleI noticed that11:23
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ardchoilleMaybe it can't recognise the fs and that's why it mounted ro11:24
schistethat's the weirdest thing in this11:24
schisteif it's ntfs it's even weirder!11:24
ardchoilleno comment ;)11:24
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schisteFeisty is great for that11:24
ardchoilleyeah, Fesity is awesome11:25
holyguyveralright I am in admin mode11:25
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schisteok so11:26
schistelet me a sec I do the same11:26
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schistebecause I don't remember how to do it with the graphical stuff11:26
ardchoilleholyguyver: Just out of curiousity, you didn't use automatix for anything, did you??11:26
holyguyverwhat is automatix?11:27
schisteyou should have a modify buton11:27
ardchoilleYou do't want it11:27
schisteor something like that11:27
holyguyverYes I do have a modify button, should I click it11:27
schistefirst selec your external drive11:28
schisteand then click on modify11:28
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ardchoilleWhy do I get the feeling that this isn't going to work?11:28
schisteyou should have a mounting permission thing on the bottom11:28
holyguyverwhen I click on my ext hhd it greys out the modify button11:28
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schistedo you have a video camera11:28
ardchoilleI thought so11:29
schisteSo you can record it11:29
holyguyverYes I do have a video camera11:29
schistebecause it's amazingly weird11:29
schisteok have you tryed the stuppidest thing on earth11:29
snowdonkeyHi.  Can someone tell me where the Qt libraries are?  I'm trying to compile a program and it's not accepting /usr/include/qt3/private which is where Adept says they're installed.11:29
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holyguyverYES, DID THAT 3 TIMES11:29
holyguyversorry accidently hit caplock11:29
ardchoillesnowdonkey: First of all, what are you compiling?11:30
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snowdonkeyardchoille: I'm compiling kwin_smooth_akua_os_k-0.9 window decorations.11:30
murlidharis there anyway where i can mount my phone as pendrive rather than memory card????11:31
ardchoillesnowdonkey: Have you heard of baghira? It's in the repos. Want a screenshot?11:31
holyguyverso any advise? :p11:31
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snowdonkeyardchoille: I've heard of baghira & seen some stuff.  I didn't know it was in the repos.  :-/11:31
ardchoillesnowdonkey: Here is my desktop: http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/7607/kdeosxxv7.jpg11:32
ardchoillesnowdonkey: sudo apt-get install kwin-baghira11:32
schistecan you do just a thing11:32
schistesudo fdisk -l11:32
snowdonkeyardchoille: Wow, nice.  :)11:32
schisteand copy the line of your external drive11:32
jpatrickardchoille: :o11:32
ardchoillesnowdonkey: That was done purely with baghira11:32
snowdonkeyardchoille: ...and I've just installed it.11:33
holyguyverardchoille schiste, is there something else to help?11:33
holyguyverno schiste for I have over 200GB of data on there11:33
snowdonkeyardchoille: Thx for the tip!  So pretty  :D11:34
schisteBuy an Apple.11:34
ardchoillesnowdonkey: Here's a tutorial about it. Skip the first section (installing) and realise that tutorial has some out of date info. But, baghira rocks!11:34
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holyguyveralright I am offically confused11:34
schisteholyguyver: I was speaking to snowdonkey and ardchoille ^^11:34
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holyguyverSo what do I do?11:35
schistei told you to make a sudo fdisk -l and copy the external drive line11:35
holyguyverbut I have 200GB of importent data on there, won't that delete it?11:35
schisteheu not at all...11:36
schisteit will display the details of the file systems11:36
ardchoilleholyguyver: No, the "-l" means list11:36
holyguyveryou are scaring me11:36
schisteof your partitions11:36
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schistehey we're not the windows users telling you to do c:format11:36
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jerihi everyone!11:37
snowdonkeyardchoille: did I miss your link to tutorial?11:37
schisteyou're among nice people (aka linux and kde users (the nicest and the smartest btw))11:37
jeriim having trouble opening my adept11:37
jerican someone help me11:37
holyguyverso once I list it, then what?11:37
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schisteyou should have a line about your external drive11:37
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ardchoillesnowdonkey: Hmm.. no, that ardchoille guy forgot to post it, lol. Here it is: http://baghira.sourceforge.net/OS_Clone-en.php11:38
holyguyver& tyhen what should I do with that line?11:38
snowdonkeyardchoille: cool, thx again.11:38
holyguyverschiste then what would I do with that line11:39
schistecopy it here :)11:40
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pagjeri, what kind of trouble?11:41
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holyguyver /dev/sda1               1       60801   488384001    7  HPFS/NTFS11:42
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schisteHPFS Oo11:43
jeridpkg trouble11:43
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jeriive abort the installation of sun-java5.bin11:43
derkaWhats a good theme system for KDE ?11:43
jerii cannot use adept the way it wer before11:44
schistejeri: what's happening11:44
crackhead_25question: hey people's.. i have edgy eft right now.. do you think feisty fawn is looking good and reliable enough to upgrade? or is it still too green?? im pretty new to linux11:44
ardchoillejeri: Did you close adept?11:44
schisteholyguyver: ok you're using a REALLY old file system11:44
derkaI'm using 7.04, no problems here11:44
jerii'ts open right now11:44
pagcrackhead_25, Feisty is ~6 months old already..11:44
ardchoillecrackhead_25: Feisty was released months ago11:44
holyguyverI am?11:44
derkarunning in VMWare11:44
schisteholyguyver: oh yes11:44
holyguyverdoes ardchoille know?11:45
crackhead_25ardchoille: i know.. at the time it was having quite a few problems with people.. is it improved and smooth enough now? do you know what im saying?11:45
jeriumm  4get bout it,its working now hehe11:45
schisteardchoille: well it was used years and years and years ago11:45
ardchoillecrackhead_25: I use it as my sole OS.. and, not sure if you remember me, I'm the pickiest and impatient person on the planet. Yes, Feisty is great now.11:45
jerijust need to upgrade sun java11:46
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holyguyverardchoille did you see what schiste said about my file system?11:46
crackhead_25ardchoille.. did you have to modify or customize much, or did it transition from your prev version seamlessly?11:46
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ardchoillecrackhead_25: I did an upgrade from Dapper to Edgy and it broke everything, haven't done an upgrade since and never will again, so I don't know about upgrades.11:47
ardchoilleholyguyver: Ah, ok, an old file system.11:47
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schisteholyguyver: this file system was used something like 15years ago at least11:48
ardchoillecrackhead_25: But, people are still finding upgrades breaking everything11:48
schisteperhaps older, i don't remember exactly11:48
holyguyverSo you two, what do I do now? & also I just bought this external hhd 5 months ago?11:48
jeridoes it take long upgrade java5-bin?11:48
schisteholyguyver: are you able to format your external drive?11:48
schisteI mean save your data11:48
schisteand then format it11:48
ardchoilleholyguyver: How did you get the files on that 5 month old ext hd?11:48
schisteit would be the best thing to do11:48
holyguyverI saved them oonto it11:49
ardchoilleYeah, I agree with schiste, back up the files and reformat11:49
ardchoilleholyguyver: What did you use to save the files? Windows?11:49
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holyguyverit is a simpletech simpledrive external harddrive, that I just bought 5 months ago. & yes I used windows :p11:50
schisteHmmm ok we could do something weird and weirdly weird11:50
ardchoilleholyguyver: Yeah, that's the problem.. you used a garbage OS.11:50
schistebut you could make two partition on your external drive11:50
schisteone with your data11:50
ardchoilleholyguyver: Not your fault, tho11:50
schisteand format the secon one11:50
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schisteand then back up your data on the second one and format the first one11:51
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schisteomag that would be so weird11:51
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fawxis there a way to make konquer play a video w/ asking whut  to open the video w/ all the time11:51
holyguyverit is 500GB I have used 200GB, my windows internal hhd is only 4GB (four) so how do I back up all of those files, other then that scary partisioning well the files are still on it option?11:52
ardchoilleschiste: Now you're confusing me11:52
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schisteardchoille:  :D11:52
schistemake two partition on his external drive11:52
schisteone with the data11:52
schistethe other one free11:52
schisteoh gosh nope11:52
schisteit could damage the data11:52
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ardchoilleOh, shrink the first part, use the new space for a second part, transfer files from 1 to 2, reformat 1, then transfer back?11:53
holyguyverhow can I transfer them if it won't let me even see them?11:53
ardchoilleholyguyver: That's a good point11:53
jerikubuntu drives me nuts,installation of packages are way beyond basic11:53
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Jesus_savesjeri, isn't it identical to ubuntu?11:54
holyguyverif I do not have access to change them, then I can't move them nor copy them11:54
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ardchoilleholyguyver: What about using Windows for that?11:54
jeriif you've done something wrong your adept will suffer11:54
holyguyverhow can I use windows to transfer them to an ex3 or whatever it is called :p11:55
jerii dont know11:55
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jeritheyre all the same maybe11:55
Jesus_savesholycow, you've made ext3?11:56
holyguyverbut how did a 15 year old fs show up on a 5 month old main brand external hardrive?11:56
jeridamn it i have errors regarding the dpkg!11:56
twylightbats have enormous penises for their body size ._.11:56
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holyguyvertwylight pigs can have a two hour long orgasim :-p11:57
Jesus_savesholycow, because you are seeing ghosts11:57
twylightso can I ;)11:57
ardchoille!ops | twylight11:58
ubotutwylight: Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!11:58
jpatrickwhat's the emergency?11:58
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ardchoilleThis is not the first time twylight has done that in this channel11:58
jerihow do i remove the last package dpkg process?11:58
jpatricktwylight: please behave11:59
ardchoillejpatrick: I guess I'l have to put twylight on my ignore list, he/she has been told about that before.12:00
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jerihow do i remove the last package dpkg process?12:00
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bazhangardchoille: that means you can't see their comments, or thye can't pm you?12:00
jpatrickardchoille: any more troulbe from him/her and I'll have to get messy again :(12:00
jerican someone help?12:00
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twylightsorry, meant to put that in another channel first off12:00
bazhangjeri: what's the problem?12:01
twylightsecond, I was tormenting my cat12:01
ardchoillebazhang: Well, with the type of comments he/she is making, they're not worth seeing12:01
bazhangardchoille: so that's what it does? Thanks!12:01
bazhanghi jeri!12:01
holyguyverbut how did a 15 year old fs show up on a 5 month old main brand external hardrive?12:01
Jesus_savesit didn't12:02
ardchoilleholyguyver: You used Windows? ;)12:02
ardchoilleholyguyver: Never trust a closed-source os12:02
holyguyverIt came preformatted12:02
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Jesus_savesholycow, it didn't show up12:02
Jesus_savesholycow, it didn't show up12:02
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bazhangJesus_saves: what?12:02
holyguyversimpletechs simpledrive comes preformatted12:03
jerii got this dpkg problem12:03
Jesus_savesit's your perception or your intention that is clouding your output12:03
holyguyverso it did come with that sf, but it is brand new12:04
Jesus_savesGod is about truth12:04
bazhangjeri: something won't update properly? try sudo dpkg --configure -a, followed by your password.12:04
Jesus_savesI'm a sinner but I know this12:04
ardchoille!ot | Jesus_saves12:04
ubotuJesus_saves: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!12:04
ardchoilleSheesh, who let the infants in here?12:04
bazhangjeri: was that the problem?12:05
jerimy last dpkg session was interrupted12:06
jerithen now i cant install this java5 bin12:06
twylightspeaking of java12:06
twylightI can't play runescape on kubuntu12:07
jeridamm im really broken hearted12:07
jerii really need that to install limewire12:07
schistehave you tried a -fix broken ?12:07
schisteShoudl do the trick should't it?12:07
schistehmmm sudo apt-get update -fix-broken12:08
schisteupdate or upgrade12:08
schisteI never remember ^^12:08
schisteupdate I think12:08
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mosiachello i just upgraded to 7.04 i believe and it seems to have messed up my resolution and im not sure how to fix it12:08
voicuhi, how do i manually mount an external drive connected through usb?12:08
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bazhangschiste: upgrade, iirc12:09
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 12:09
voicuand how could i find what partitions i have on it?12:09
schistemwarf ok ^^12:09
bazhangvoicu: mount in terminal12:09
ardchoilleschiste: Check out voicu's question. De javu?12:09
schisteDj vu indeed12:09
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ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter12:10
schistegood bot good bot12:10
schistebut you could give the commands!12:10
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holyguyveryeah when I saw voicu 's question I giggled :p12:11
voicubazhang: i know, but what is the device and how i mount different drives on it?12:11
voicu*do i12:12
ardchoillevoicu: Do you know what file systemis on it?12:12
voicuwell either fat32 or ntfs... i'll try them both12:12
bazhangvoicu: the commant 'mnt' should do it iirc12:12
bazhangcommand, even12:12
ardchoillelet's hope it's not HPFS/NTFS12:12
holyguyverLoL LoL12:13
voicui'm going to mount it readonly to be sure12:13
bazhangshort for mount, I believe12:13
voicuXP doesn't recognise it, that's why i'm trying to mount it manually12:13
voicuwhat device is the usb?12:13
holyguyverwell xp recognizes mine so :p12:13
voicui tried /dev/bus/usb and it says it's not a block device12:13
bazhangvoicu: you want a command for XP?12:13
bazhangdoes XP have a shell?12:14
ardchoillevoicu: try /dev/sda112:14
schistebazhang: nope12:14
holyguyverLoL man I am gertting deja vu :-p12:14
jeriubotu thx alot! that really help!12:14
ardchoilleholyguyver: me too12:14
ubotuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)12:14
voicuxp can't handle something unless it works out of the box :P12:14
bazhangvista, not so much12:15
holyguyvervoicu is this external harddrive by any chance a simpledrive? :P12:15
se7en^Of^9vista doesn't handle anything in or out of the box12:16
mulanderse7en^Of^9: I disagree, vista handles malware out of the box :D12:16
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bazhangI had to use Vista yesterday--shiver--12:16
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mulanderbtw hi all12:16
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ardchoillese7en^Of^9: Not true, Windows handles viruses, trojans, worms, etc quite well.12:16
bazhangVista is malware..no kidding.12:16
schisteI'm using it nearly everyday :)12:16
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schistenope it's not12:16
schisteborring yes12:17
schisteannoying too12:17
bazhang!gunga din12:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gunga din - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:17
schistebut not that bad in the end12:17
holyguyverseven of nine, aren't you from startreck?12:17
voicuholyguyver: it's an external harddrive that can be connected on usb, lan or a tv plug (for slideshows or something)12:17
bazhangas compared to cholera?12:17
ardchoillebazhang: ??? This isn't #wikipedia, lol12:17
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se7en^Of^9holyguyver: use to be ...12:17
schistewikipedia sucks!12:17
voicuwhen i put connect it to usb and turn it on the light comes up but nothing else happens12:17
bazhangardchoille: sorry! can I at least do the bot command for bug#1?12:18
mosiacwhen i upgrade to 7.04 do i need to update my nvidia driver?12:18
holyguyverwell then seven of nine you are one hot borg :-p12:18
Jesus_savesi've realized that if you appreciate the beauty of situation then you are automatically rational12:18
ardchoillemosiac: If you installed the nvidia driver via the package manager, it should upgrade for you12:19
se7en^Of^9a borg with no mounting problems :P12:19
Jesus_savesalthough i cannot12:19
mulandermount self /dev/borg12:19
mulanderother way around but you get the idea :)12:19
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mosiacok lets say i didnt and im a retard which package do i need to install?12:19
sillehi all.  need quick assist w/ network settigns (spec. subetting).  Would someone help or refer me to where I may find info re appropriate settings.  THX12:20
ardchoillemosiac: That depends.12:20
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mosiaclegacy card12:20
ardchoille!nvidia | mosiac12:20
ubotumosiac: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:20
schistesille: be more specifiv please:)12:20
silleoops i meant subnet masking12:20
mosiacok thanks12:20
silleok.  i want 2 networks to remain completely seperate from each otehr12:21
silleone is my dual boot xp/linux pc12:21
sillethe other is a 4 pc network12:21
sillei had been able to keeep the two from seeing eachother           befoer12:21
drifsille: you something like http://www.subnet-calculator.com/? or ubuntu-specific?12:21
silleinwidows by setting 2 different work groups.  the two did not see each otehr at all.12:22
holyguyverwell anyway voiccu, your hardrive is not the same as mine, but we still haven't found a salution to mine's problem12:22
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP312:22
sillehowever, linux can see all teh pcs in my house.  hte only commonality is that they are sharing the same router12:22
Jesus_savesubuntu is great... i don't need to do anything12:23
silledrif-->  someone referred me to thsi calc.12:23
schisteubuntu sucks12:23
sillebottom line.  I don't really understand it.12:23
schistekubuntu rocks12:23
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schisteBIG difference :p12:23
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jpatrickschiste: they both have the same base12:24
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dostvery big haha12:24
sillewhen i tried a manual setting on subnet, i could no longer connect to internet from router12:24
schistejpatrick: are you really sure of that?12:24
holyguyverbuntu is an okay distro :-p12:24
jpatrickschiste: well they both come from the same repos12:24
schisteNo way!12:24
holyguyverI wonder what would happen if google released goobuntu, I wonder if googles popularity amongst youths would actually influince a massive os change :)12:25
silleif i am not using teh 192.*.*.* ip, my nic connected to the router will not connect to internet12:25
schistethis is an urban legend12:25
schisteand I don't think they'll release it soon12:26
holyguyverI don't think they would ever release it, it is internal12:26
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sillehowever, when changed subnet mask from teh generic to other, it did not work with teh ip range I               setmanually.12:26
Jesus_savesLa la la la la, la la la la la12:27
silleanyone know sbnetting well enough to suggest a range of ip and matching subnet?12:27
holyguyverso have you guys figured out how did a 15 year old fs show up preinstalled on a 5 month old main brand external hardrive?12:28
Jesus_savessille, ...12:28
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silleyes jesus?12:28
Jesus_savesi'm not jesus12:29
sillemmm k jesus_saves.....12:29
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holyguyverif you combine Jesus-Saves & myself you get one spiritual/holy guy :-p12:30
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Jesus_savessille, check the ranges of ip's for local addresses(if i recall correctly, the term) and note that is class C subnet.12:31
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fc__problem: i cant remove an menu entry from the applications list12:31
fc__specifically, i cant remove a wine entry from the list12:31
fc__can anyone help me please?12:31
Jesus_savessille, so maybe you want class C local address for your host12:32
r2d2hello folks'12:32
Jesus_savesi meant subnet mask... srry i have a habit of being inaccurate12:32
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r2d2does anyone kan help me to setup up a webserver to work with php in ubunto??12:33
pag!lamp | r2d212:33
ubotur2d2: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)12:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ignored - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:33
silleactually, i just want to make sure that my two seperate networks are not able to see ea other.  i was successful in doing this by creating two different work groups.  In windows, they are blind to ea other.  However, linux sees all...12:33
pagr2d2, see the link ubotu gave you. :)12:34
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holyguyvercrap I meant an ! before that :p12:34
holyguyversorry I am talking to no one12:34
njendewith which kernel comes gutsy?12:34
sillei was told by another here earlier that i would have             toset a differen subment mask for the two not to see ea otehr when linux booted.12:34
holyguyverjust herasing the bot12:34
r2d2thanks! :)12:34
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ubotuIf you really don't wish to see the messages from a particular person on IRC, you can use /ignore nickname12:34
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Jesus_savesLa la la la la, la la la la la12:35
holyguyveranyway ardchoillie schiste how did a 15 year old fs show up preinstalled on a 5 month old main brand external hardrive?12:35
schisteI really dunno12:36
njendehi folks!12:36
Jesus_savesholyguyver, it didn't12:36
silleall my pcs are sharing 1 router for internet and for sharing purposes.12:36
holyguyverJesus_Saves, yes it did, the simpledrive comes preformatted12:36
njendecan anyone tell me in here with which kernel gutsy comes along?12:37
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Jesus_savesholyguyver, no12:37
Jesus_savesholyguyver, your perception or your intention12:37
holyguyvertruth, look up it's spexs12:37
Jesus_savesholyguyver, anywayz i have a question for you: when is it appropriate to think unclearly?12:37
holyguyveryou are obviously a troll12:38
Jesus_savesno, i'm serious12:38
holyguyverI am thinking clearlyu, & truky look at it's spex if you don't believe me12:39
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Jesus_savesoh, so when there is no consequence, i am free to think unclearly12:39
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Jesus_savesand since human beings like to be unburdened, when there is no consequence we should think unclearly12:39
holyguyveralright this man is a cuckoo12:40
Jesus_savesi don't understand12:40
holyguyverexactly :p12:40
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holyguyveranyway schiste, can you please stick on this problem with me a little bit long, I would really like to see if we can clear it up12:41
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holyguyvernow we know it came preformatted, & it said on the box preformatted with ntfs, it said it would work instantly on xp & that with mac all you would have to do is reformat it, indeed the same goes for linux, however 200GB is a lot of DVD's worth of backup12:43
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Jesus_savesholyguyver, you need to backup before you reformat?12:44
holyguyverI wasn't talking to you Jesus12:45
Jesus_savesi'm not jesus12:45
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Jesus_savesppl just don't understand that there is an advantage of being irrational sometimes12:46
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holyguyverso schiste, do you really think that it is the fs that it says it is or do you think that my ntfs-3g is messing with it & I should uninstall that?12:46
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Jesus_saves(if you appreciate the beauty of a situation then you are automatically rational)12:47
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Jesus_savesyou know i have like 20 years of my life12:49
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Jesus_savesi want to do good to my parents12:49
Jesus_savessincerely deep in my heart12:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about troll - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:50
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ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)12:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tail - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:51
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holyguyverwell anyone new out there for feels like helping me with my problem?12:54
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holyguyverAm I alone?12:55
holyguyverecho echo echo12:56
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holyguyverthank goodness :p12:56
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holyguyverso how are you bazhang?12:57
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bazhangholyguyver: great--got Gutsy?12:57
holyguyvernope Fiesty, why?12:57
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bazhangjust curious--Gutsy is really stable--much more so for me than Feisty ever was. The amount of care put into this (yet only beta) is unreal...01:00
holyguyveryeah, I sometimes have thoughts of going baack to dapper01:01
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ubotudapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu.  Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".01:01
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ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information01:02
ubotuIt is spelt "FEIsty" :)01:02
holyguyver:-p LoL01:02
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ubotuKubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Kubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php01:03
Jesus_savesholyguyver, do you like me?01:03
holyguyverJesus_saves, no I don't01:03
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holyguyverBazhang, do you think gutsy would help me with my hardrive problems?01:05
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bazhangholyguyver: what problems are those?01:06
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holyguyvermy hardrive is a hpfs/ntfs & I cannot/won't reformat it, & I have ntfs-3g installed so kubuntu should be able to read it, & it can, but for some reasion it mounted in rwx ro instead of rw01:08
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bazhangholyguyver: which means?01:08
bazhangcan't write?01:08
holyguyveriot won't let me see or change anything01:09
holyguyverwont even let me see01:09
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holyguyverit says I do not have permission to see01:09
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bazhangholyguyver: dual boot?01:09
bazhangholyguyver: just a storage drive then...01:09
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bazhangholyguyver: what file system?01:10
holyguyverI already said hpsf/ntfs01:10
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holyguyverthey said it is a 15 year old file system01:10
bazhangsorry, just woke from a nap...01:10
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holyguyver:p @ seven01:13
holyguyverbazhang http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HPFS01:13
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bazhangholyguyver: thanks; no clue as to a solution--perhaps ubuntu forums, or #hpfs?01:14
se7en^Of^9holyguyver: ls -l /your/usb/  ...01:15
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holyguyverdid that about 6 hours ago01:16
se7en^Of^9and rwxrwxr x ?01:16
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holyguyverit mounted to rwx ro01:17
Jesus_savesi remember last rugby worldcup(not the running one) johnny wilkinson of england was like a machine01:19
Jesus_saveshe hardly ever missed01:19
ardchoille!ot | Jesus_saves01:20
ubotuJesus_saves: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!01:20
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Jesus_savesi'm sure someday i will meet a decent wise girl who genuinely loves me01:21
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holyguyverso se7en^Of^9 any idea?01:22
Jesus_savesbecause by that time i will be competent01:22
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bazhangJesus_saves: pushing the limits...01:22
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ardchoillebazhang: It's either a bot or he doesn't care if he gets kicked.01:23
bazhangardchoille: there are bots? Wow.01:23
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holyguyverbazhang there is no #hpfs01:24
bazhangholyguyver: I was joshing, sorry.01:24
bazhanghi alesan!01:24
alesanis there any source for the win32 codecs (for mplayer) in kubuntu? it seems I cannot find them in adept01:25
ardchoillealesan: Are you logged in as root?01:25
ardchoille!seveas | alesan01:25
ubotualesan: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - And he's getting married!01:25
Jesus_savesardchoille, i'm definitely not a bot if i write a bot01:27
Jesus_saveseven if i write a bot that writes a bot01:27
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holyguyverJesus_Saves I have seen lots of yahoo bots & jabberwacky write the phraise "A bot"01:29
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holyguyverwell I mean Frank_Ribery :-p01:30
alesanardchoille: it seems I misconfigured konversation. it should run as a normal user, damn.01:30
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holyguyverardchoille you never answered me, should I try uninstalling ntfs-3g & see if it will mount right then?01:31
ardchoilleholyguyver: I don't know anything about ntfs.. I haven't touched Windows os since 200101:32
holyguyverntfs-3g is a linux driver for ntfs01:32
ardchoilleWell, I have no need for it then01:32
holyguyverbut I do :-p01:32
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ardchoilleWell, you already know more about it than I do01:33
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:33
holyguyverso you are suggesting that my suggestion of uninstalling it & seeing if that might help, may be educated advise?01:33
ardchoilleholyguyver: When it comes to ntfs, you're on your own I'm afraid.01:34
holyguyverwell as said it may not be ntfs, it my be hpfs01:35
holyguyverwhich from you saying "not since 2001" that means yo7u have touched it (hpfs) :-p01:37
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bazhangholyguyver: do you have a Windows box you can boot from?01:38
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ardchoilleholyguyver: The only file system I have dealt with since 2001 is ext3.01:38
ardchoilleWell, ext2/ext301:38
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holyguyverno I meant before 200101:38
bazhangholyguyver: then boot with installed, burn to drive, reattach to linux box, install Gutsy, and Bob's your uncle!01:39
slackernI have dualboot on this machine, i usually just install ntfs-3g and ntfs-config then i tell ntfs-config to enable everything for rw bla bla and it just works01:39
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holyguyverhey slackern thanks :D01:39
slackernbut using 7.10 right now and then it just worked for my 2 ntfs partitions01:39
bazhangslackern: thanks!01:39
slackernhope it works just as easy as it did for me01:39
holyguyverso are you saying that I should upgrade from feisty?01:39
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slackernNah not really it should work fine there too01:40
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holyguyverso you are saying I need to configure the ntfs config?01:40
slackernlet me check quickly on the tool, been a couple of months ago since i used it01:40
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holyguyverevery time I try & use ntfs conig nothing starts, it seems like a dead menu item01:41
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slackernholyguyver: it should give you a little simple window with like 2 buttons01:41
holyguyvernope, gives me nothing01:42
slackerninstalling it now here too just to try01:42
slackern'sudo ntfs-config' started it for me, but hmm maybe it could be something that im in gnome right now01:43
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holyguyverwhen I enter gksu ntfs-config it says could not run spacific cammand01:43
slackernoh is it installed?01:43
slackern'sudo apt-get install ntfs-config'01:43
holyguyverO well then I guess I will have to change the cammand it gave it when it installed01:43
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redlexHi people01:45
holyguyverwhen I sudo apt-get install ntfs-config   ed it I got this E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)01:45
slackernholyguyver: then there is another instance of maybe (adept/apt-get /aptitude/something) running01:46
holyguyverO yes there is, oops sorry :p01:46
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slackernholyguyver: btw just for reference is is just an internal drive or external + internal drive with ntfs?01:47
holyguyver& it told me that it was already installed in it's newset version01:47
holyguyverntfs-config that is01:48
slackernholyguyver: hmm thats odd, it should just work then, i could log into kde and check where it is01:49
slackerni'll brb01:49
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slackernholyguyver: I see it in the menu under system and then i got NTFS Configuration Tool01:51
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holyguyverYes me, too but it was a dead link, however I just using your advise that you gave earlier fixed it like I said I would01:51
slackernahh so it's working now?01:52
holyguyverbut I only fixed that linkl, still need to fix that drive01:52
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holyguyverso no not yet, but you have helped me get closer :D01:53
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holyguyverso now it automaticly mounts which is amazing, but it still says that I do not have access rights to it.01:54
Capt_Carroti always take the cheap way out and chown the mount directory :)01:55
deviance|deadWhat are some good repositorues to get up to date games from? I need nexuiz 2.301:55
Capt_Carrotyou may have to roll your own on that one01:55
deviance|deadAre there any good reposioties for games?01:56
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Capt_Carrotnone that i'm aware of, no01:56
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ubotuYou can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html01:58
fc__how do i remove a link to a wine application that has moved?01:58
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)01:58
slackernholyguyver: mm01:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about configure - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:58
holyguyverI wish to show youa pastbin01:58
slackernholyguyver: sure i can have a look, not sure if it helps or not but i'll look :)01:59
Capt_Carrotapparently gutsy got 2.3 but it was never moved into feisty-backports01:59
fc__how do i remove a link to a wine application that has moved? deleting the entry from the edit menu's option doesnt work! help please!01:59
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Capt_Carrotdeviance|dead: 2.3 is up over at getdeb, though i hesitate to recommend it sometimes...02:01
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slackernholyguyver: hmm looks like it should start, those errors are just for those odd input thingys that they have extra in xorg.conf02:01
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holyguyverI does start & I switched it to external, but as said it still won't let me read nor write to it02:02
deviance|deadCapt_Carrot: I found a repo for get deb the other day, but when I did a full upgrade it removed kubuntu desktop package02:02
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Capt_Carrotjust download the required packages from the site02:03
Capt_Carrotand kubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage02:03
deviance|deadI know you can but I had alot fo software to update02:03
deviance|deadI figured Capt_Carrot! :P02:03
deviance|deadGotta restart x02:03
deviance|deadone sec02:03
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holyguyverso slackern any ideo how I can get it to give me access to it?02:08
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slackernholyguyver: hmm i never had that kind of problem with it not even showing up, so not sure where to start trying to fix it really02:09
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slackernholyguyver: usually starting things from a terminal gives some useful information about those problems but well not this time =/02:09
holyguyverWell would it help if you knew all of the ntfs drivers & stuff I have installed? maybe it is a drive conflict02:10
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charlie5hi all ... does anyone know how to disable an external usb hardrive from powering itself down (or whatever else it might be which causes it to unmount itself every five or so minuste) ?02:11
holyguyverHey ardchoille it is a deja vu again :-p02:12
holyguyverschiste look :-p02:12
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zszI have no sound. Sound card is detected, the kernel module is loaded, sound channels are not muted, headphones are connected properly and work with mp3 player. alsa-tools, alsa-oss, alsa-utils and alsa-base are installed. How to enable sound?02:15
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash02:16
zszI mean the headphones work with a separate mp3 player02:16
zszlike ipod02:16
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holyguyverslackern in the list I saw that I was missing one lib for it, so I am installing that now to see if that helps02:20
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slackernholyguyver: make a backup of your /etc/fstab also02:21
holyguyvermy what?02:22
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slackernholyguyver: /etc/fstab file contains information about how to mount your disks and such, just in case it gets changed and breaks or something02:22
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holyguyvershouldn't I have done that last week when I originally installed ntfs03g?02:23
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slackernholyguyver: well it's usually not needed but it always nice in case something breaks :)02:24
slackernholyguyver: can save some tears, then it's just too boot up a ubuntu disk, mount partitions and move the file back and it's back up and running :)02:25
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robinsonmorning, all02:38
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ardchoilleholyguyver , schiste: What? Was there a sale on those usb hard drives recently?? lol02:39
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robinsonI need to know how to set my default wireless network using KNetworkManager. I have two networks in my home, one public, one encrypted. I have moved the public one to "untrusted" but tat is the one it connects to everytime i turn on my laptop02:40
holyguyverActually yes there was, back 5 months ago, 500GB for 200$02:41
ardchoilleholyguyver: I'm beginning to see why they were so cheap ;)02:42
jpatrick!wifi | robinson02:42
uboturobinson: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:42
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robinsonmy connection dropped for a sec, did anyone answer yet?02:44
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:44
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hsystem-x!lock apt02:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lock apt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:51
ghozalabazhang: hi02:51
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)02:52
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ubotudpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.02:52
pag!aptfix | hsystem-x, are you looking for this?:02:53
ubotuhsystem-x, are you looking for this?:: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 02:53
ghozalabazhang: i ve tried the compiz-fusion on system it is runing very good with fiesty02:53
hsystem-xthx man , yes02:53
pagyw :)02:54
bazhangghozala: yes!02:55
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Nolomy display setting are out of wack...can you give me a link on what to do to fix them?02:58
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ghozalahay help!!!!! which voice plugin i use for kopete konference or gnomemeeting03:01
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Nolohelp what do I key in to terinal to reset the display refresh rate to maximum?03:03
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kduser^will any problems arise if i burn a cdimage on to a dvd ?03:05
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hsystem-xkduser, it is the same..03:06
kduser^an os image03:06
bazhangno problem.03:06
kduser^since I only have dvd`s and no cds at the moment03:06
hsystem-xyes, it will boot, like a normal cd, no prob. The only thing you need is a DVD reader...03:06
hsystem-xsooo i guess you have one.03:06
kduser^I use kubuntu edgy and my sound card is not working.. I installed alsa driver the latest one by compiling from source03:07
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kduser^how do I see my soundcard name /03:07
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kduser^its a lenovo laptop 3000  N10003:07
hsystem-xtype in termina: lspci03:08
hsystem-xterminal*, there you should see all your devices.03:08
kduser^Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)03:08
kduser^is this card supported by the kernel in edgy ? 2.6.1703:09
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about souncards - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:10
kduser^okay.. I`ll reboot and try I just upgraded  my kernel03:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about soundcards - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:11
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP303:11
kduser^thanks.. :)03:11
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Nolohow do I uninstall kubuntu and remove it from grub?03:17
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hsystem-xuninstall it? just format or remove the partitions.03:18
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faroukhi every one03:18
faroukcan you help me in somthing03:19
nosrednaekimhey farouk03:19
nosrednaekimwhats the problem03:19
faroukhi good that there is somebody to answer me03:19
farouki want to play rmvb files03:19
nosrednaekimits sunday and its early ;)03:19
faroukthat's the problem03:19
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nosrednaekimno... thats the second problem ;)03:20
faroukearly how ????????????03:20
faroukwwhy it's the second03:20
nosrednaekimits early in the morning in the US where most of these people are from03:20
Noloi have a couple of versions of kubuntu on my computer, so how do I remove them so i can do a clean install03:20
ghozalahay how can i install .tar.gz extentions03:20
faroukoh isee03:20
faroukacutally  don't know03:21
farouki am new to the wholle thing03:21
farouki think adept manager03:21
faroukwill help03:21
nosrednaekim!source | ghozala03:21
ubotughozala: You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html03:21
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nosrednaekimfarouk: what does a rmvb file do?03:21
Noloright...except that my display settinga are out of sync and I cant see shyte03:22
ardchoilleNolo: How do yo have a couple versions of kubuntu?03:22
faroukrmvb file it's a media file exinsion03:22
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Noloit did an upgrade and just added the newer version onto grub03:22
ardchoilleNolo: Do you mean you've upgraded?03:22
nosrednaekimfarouk: then I would get "libxine-extracodecs" from adept and see if that fixes it03:22
holyguyverhow do I mount a drive again?03:23
NightBirdNolo: oh, you can uninstall the older kernel versions03:23
jermainhi everyone!03:23
ardchoilleNolo: Ok, then you don't have a couple of versions, you simply have your current version. As for the kernels, you can leave them, it does no harm. Or you can uninstall previous kernels.03:23
NightBirdOpen up adept, search for kernel image, and remove the older versions03:23
farouki told you i am new to the whole thing and i still searching for the proper programs for me03:23
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild.  Also, see !stages03:23
nosrednaekimfarouk: get that package..03:23
Noloright, but my display setting are out of sync and I cant see shyte to do that03:24
holyguyverardchoille how do I mount a drive again?03:24
fay_elfActually you could edit /boot/grub03:24
ardchoilleholyguyver: sudo mount /<device> /<mount_point>03:24
holyguyverthanks :)03:24
NightBirder... search for linux-image, it will get you too it faster03:24
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Nolofirst and foremost....my display settings are shyte now....and I cant even see the log-in03:25
fay_elfKnowing that file is very useful03:25
NoloI asked for help....but no one answered....03:25
ardchoille!display | Nolo03:26
ubotuNolo: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto03:26
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NightBirdwhat's the problem with it Nolo?03:26
faroukso could anyone tell me how to play rmvb files03:26
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ardchoillefarouk: Is it a real media file?03:27
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about realmedia - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:27
nosrednaekimfarouk: I just told you!03:27
jermainvlc plays about anything ive encountered03:27
farouktold me what03:27
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:27
nosrednaekimto get the package "libxine-extracodecs" in adept.03:27
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fay_elfOh and did you guys know that you can have a background in the grub boot screen?03:27
faroukso is vlc in thhe adept03:27
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faroukoh oh03:28
bazhangfarouk: yes03:28
RiverGateyes it is03:28
nosrednaekimfay_elf: yep :) Ubuntu sets it up kinda plain.03:28
holyguyverso how do I mount that spacific harddrive again?03:28
faroukok thank you every one03:28
bazhangno problem03:28
ardchoilleholyguyver: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda103:28
fay_elfThat's a good way to begin with GIMP03:29
faroukso see you next time because i had to study now03:29
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holyguyvernow it is saying mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist03:29
RiverGatetry sda203:29
ardchoilleholyguyver: Did you unplug it?03:29
holyguyver& replugge dit03:30
RiverGatetry sda203:30
ardchoilleholyguyver: See what it says in the disks gui03:30
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RiverGateyou prolly didnt safely unplug03:30
holyguyverI did, & it is the same as it was before03:30
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ardchoilleRiverGate: This hd has been problematic.. to say the least03:31
RiverGateic :/03:31
RiverGatewhat kinds of sda do you see when you do "ls /dev"?03:31
RiverGateor "ls /dev | less"03:32
holyguyvertyping in ls dev does nothing, I think you did not type in fully what I am supposed to type in03:32
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RiverGatewait ill open console03:32
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holyguyverwhen I typed in ls /dev|less it said END03:33
nosrednaekimthere is no need to pipe ls through less ;)03:33
nosrednaekimless is for reading files03:34
RiverGatei like to scroll around with the arrow buttons :)03:34
holyguyvernow concel will not work because it says something about pty03:34
RiverGateholyguyver: you didnt use the spaces03:34
fay_elfls /dev/sda*03:35
holyguyverKonsole is unable to open a PTY (pseudo teletype). It is likely that this is due to an incorrect configuration of the PTY devices. Konsole needs to have read/write access to the PTY devices.03:35
ardchoilleholyguyver: hit the "q" key03:35
RiverGatei concede to your hd03:35
ardchoilleholyguyver: That's another one slapped :)03:36
bazhangor as my japanese wii says: game setto!03:36
holyguyverwhen I hit q nothing happens03:36
holyguyvernow he just broke my termanol :(03:36
ardchoilleit's not broke03:37
holyguyverhow do I fix it03:37
ardchoillelaunch another terminal :)03:37
RiverGatewhere are the good ol' times when people asked "how do i move a file in bash?"03:37
ardchoillequit that one03:37
ardchoilleRiverGate: Long gone03:37
bazhangholyguyver: some hours backs, I suggested you connect this to a Windows box and then mount it in XP (or whatever), copy over the files, then put it on you Linux box--any reason not to try that?03:37
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holyguyverI have done that 8 times & it keeps on saying Konsole is unable to open a PTY (pseudo teletype). It is likely that this is due to an incorrect configuration of the PTY devices. Konsole needs to have read/write access to the PTY devices.03:37
ardchoille"the screen says to insert floppy # 3, but I can only get two in there at a time"03:38
ardchoilleRiverGate: ^^03:38
holyguyverbecause my xp only has a 4(four)gb hard drive & I need to transfer 200GB03:38
RiverGatei'll just sit here quitly and learn from you guys03:38
ardchoilleholyguyver: What is taking up 200Gb ?03:38
holyguyvermy files03:39
bazhangholyguyver: and you never backed any of that up?03:39
holyguyvermusic, vidfeos & porn :p03:39
holyguyvernope not yet :p03:39
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ardchoilleholyguyver: backups are your friends :)03:39
holyguyvernow how do I fix my termanol?03:39
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ardchoilleholyguyver: ctrl+c  ?03:40
hsystem-xohh yeah loving gutsy gibbon and the new wireless drivers :D03:40
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bazhangterminal what?03:40
nosrednaekimhsystem-x: which ones?03:40
bazhanghsystem-x: it's sweet right?03:40
lucarrrri just installed kubuntu03:40
RiverGatehsystem new wireless drivers?03:40
bazhanghello lucarrrr!03:40
lucarrrri am completely new to ubuntu03:40
hsystem-xso much improvements.03:40
holyguyvercntr+c did nothing03:40
nosrednaekimhello lucarrrr:)03:40
lucarrrrhaving used only red hat till now03:40
bazhanglucarrrr: welcome!03:40
lucarrrrhow to installa kdevelop?03:40
RiverGatelucarrr wecome to a better world!03:40
hsystem-xno, i want to install kde 4, does anybody of you have done that?03:41
bazhangsudo apt-get install kdevelop from the terminal.03:41
nosrednaekimlucarrrr: go into adept, the package manager.03:41
ardchoilleholyguyver: What is your terminal doing?03:41
holyguyverKonsole is unable to open a PTY (pseudo teletype). It is likely that this is due to an incorrect configuration of the PTY devices. Konsole needs to have read/write access to the PTY devices.03:41
bazhanghsystem-x: unusable.03:41
lucarrrralready done03:41
lucarrrrkdevelop doesn't apper03:41
lucarrrrin the list of installable packages03:41
bazhanghsystem-x: yep03:41
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lucarrrrwhich is the main package repository03:41
nosrednaekimlucarrrr: do a "sudo apt-get update" do update your package lists03:41
holyguyverit says that from the second it pops up & when I hit "OK" it closes03:42
bazhanglucarrrr: from my apt-cache search kdevelop: kdevelop - An IDE for Unix/X1103:42
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RiverGateooh i got a question: in a unix script i want a user to define a variable03:42
RiverGatehow do i do that?03:42
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nosrednaekimRiverGate: you mean a bash script?03:42
holyguyverravergate I have a question, why did you break my bash?03:43
nosrednaekimlucarrrr: if you are on dapper, you may need to enable some repositories03:43
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu03:43
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RiverGateholy its a simple command to list items in a dir03:43
nosrednaekimhsystem-x: wait for beta 3 to use KDE403:43
holyguyverwell it broke bash03:43
RiverGatei dont know how it could 'break' your bash03:43
nosrednaekimhsystem-x: right now it has no panel ;)03:43
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nosrednaekimRiverGate: eh.. I once uninstalled it in Suse03:43
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hsystem-xok :),03:44
holyguyverwell it did, now all people can do is pty me03:44
RiverGatenosrednaekim :p03:44
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bazhangheya steffen03:44
steffenhi i am new here03:44
RiverGateholy, the line i made you type equivelent to clicking a map to see what files are in it03:45
bazhangsteffen: what's your question?03:45
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RiverGateim not gonna claim its not because of my line03:45
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holyguyverrivergate, you have now been dubbed the bashbreaker the termanol termanator the konsol killer :-p03:45
lucarrrrwhere can i find a comprensive list03:45
steffenwhere do you come from03:45
lucarrrrof the main and better repositories?03:45
RiverGateAll your bash are belong to us!03:45
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!03:45
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bazhangnot you RiverGate03:46
RiverGateoh lol :p so how do i get a user to define a variable in a bash script?03:46
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ardchoilleRiverGate: read ?03:47
stdinRiverGate: #bash is the place to ask03:47
RiverGateargh, ofcourse03:47
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bazhanglucarrrr: kubuntu will find the repositories for you automatically, based on what you entered in timezone info.03:47
RiverGateon my way :p03:47
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bazhanghi stdin03:47
holyguyverso how do I fix konsal?03:47
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holyguyverardchoille, you read the problem, how do I fix it? :'(03:49
ardchoilleholyguyver: I've never seen that problem. usually "q" or ctrl+c quits whatever is being run in term03:49
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ardchoilleholyguyver: You're saying that anytime you launch konsole now it shows that msg and quits?03:50
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holyguyveras said it closes when I hit ok, but then when I repoen it it says it again03:50
wathekhello all03:50
wathekis there any way to read the ram or rm files of some radio straming ?03:50
holyguyveryes it does that any time >I start it03:50
wathekwith amarok ?03:50
RiverGate#bash has 309 non responsive people 8/03:50
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ardchoilleRiverGate: lol03:50
RiverGatenvm sm1s alive03:50
bazhangkind of like here, only fewer.03:51
lucarrrri have dependencies problems03:51
lucarrrrit refuses to install kdevelop03:51
ardchoillelucarrrr: With what?03:51
holyguyverso what is pty?03:51
ardchoillelucarrrr: How are you installing it?03:51
lucarrrra lot of stuff03:51
lucarrrrand libc03:51
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lucarrrrapt-get install kdevelop03:51
stdinholyguyver: "man pty"03:52
stdinlucarrrr: use the pastebin to post the errors03:52
ardchoillelucarrrr: Are you running Gutsy?03:52
lucarrrrhow do i see which version am i a running?03:53
lucarrrrit should be 6 something03:53
lucarrrrbut i don't know for sure03:53
ubotuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell03:53
lucarrrri don't have the installation cd here03:53
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ardchoillelucarrrr: Look at what ubotu just posted03:53
ardchoillestdin: Thanks03:53
lucarrrredgy 6.1003:54
frank_anyone else experience this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/knetworkmanager/+bug/14986903:54
frank_Knetworkmanager says no active device in kubuntu gutsy03:54
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NightBirdfrank_: gutsy support in #ubuntu+103:55
frank_NightBird: ok03:55
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contrast83Greets, everyone...03:56
contrast83Anyone know what would cause Amarok to be using ~20% CPU?03:57
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pauljwcontrast83: is it staying at 20%?  mine hits that when it accesses the next tune but then drops off to say 1.3 where it is right now.  could it be updating the album covers?  i read somewhere that it does that periodically.03:59
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contrast83pauljw: It's staying at at least 20%, spikes to ~%70 when changing tracks.04:01
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pauljwcontrast83: whoa, that's not right.  i have no idea what would be causing that, have you checked their site for bug reports?04:03
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contrast83Nope, I'll have a look around. I *am* on Gutsy, so it might be related to that.04:04
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holyguyveranyway, I have fixed bash from rivergates mess, now how do I fix that HHD :-p LoL04:09
SeibikiteiGreetings everyone, I was curious if anyone had any advice for optimizing xorg.conf with an Nvidia 8800 GTS card and the official drivers, I haven't had any luck searching Google and what not04:09
shadowhywindQuestion, Why if i used the website package search it says a package is in the universe repository, but when i look in apt/adept i don't find it04:09
tekteencheck /etc/apt/sources.list04:10
shadowhywinduniverse and multiverse are both uncommented04:10
tekteengo to the adept manager04:10
tekteen ok04:11
tekteensudo apt-get update04:11
shadowhywind*i am also in the adept manager, if you wanted me to still be there*04:11
tekteenfetch updates04:12
bazhangtekteen: sudo is for terminal, no?04:12
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tekteenuse fetch updates04:12
shadowhywinddone that, and still not finding it04:12
tekteenwhat is the package called04:13
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tekteenI can find it04:13
stdin!info apt-file04:14
ubotuapt-file: APT package searching utility -- command-line interface. In component universe, is optional. Version (feisty), package size 12 kB, installed size 96 kB04:14
tekteenit is part of universe/base04:14
shadowhywindLet me pastebin my apt sources.list and see if possiable i am missing something04:14
stdinshadowhywind: does "apt-cache search apt-file" find it ?04:14
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:15
tekteenin command line type sudo apt-get install apt-file04:15
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shadowhywindit says that it is not available, but is referred to by another package,.... Package apt-file has no installation candidate04:16
shadowhywindby any chance would apt-file not work on amd64?04:16
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tekteenI use 3204:16
stdinthe package is available on all architectures04:16
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shadowhywindhere is my sources.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39860/04:18
holyguyverArdchoille now I finally got it to mount, now it is in /mnt/sda1 but still will not give me permission to rewad it :p04:19
ardchoilleholyguyver: That is an HPFS/NTFS partition.. I can't help you with it.04:20
holyguyverI wonder if slackern is even still here :p04:21
Dr_WillisASUS Motherboard Ships With Embedded Linux, Web Browser04:21
Dr_WillisWithin five seconds of turning on this $360 USD gaming/enthusiast motherboard, you can be using Linux and surfing the Internet.04:22
ardchoilleDr_Willis: nice :)04:22
bazhangI saw that Dr_Willis04:22
holyguyveris there any kubuntu hpfs/ntfs experts in the room?!04:22
Dr_WillisIve used thentfs stuff a little..04:22
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ardchoilleholyguyver: Maybe Dr_Willis can help04:23
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holyguyver& the ntfs room only has like 4 people in it & they all seem asleep04:23
holyguyverHi Dr :D04:23
tekteenI do not suggest using ntfs read write drivers04:24
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holyguyverDr I have a ntfs external USB drive, I have ntfs-3g fully installed, but when I try to go to the files/folder that it is mounted to it says I do not have permissions to access04:24
tekteenIf windows changes 1 thing that you don-t know about you could lose all you data04:24
Dr_Willisholyguyver  check the fstab file.. see if you have an entry for the thing?04:25
holyguyverwhere would fstab be?04:25
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions04:25
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Dr_Willistime for linux fundamentals. :)04:25
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Dr_WillisYou did run the ntfs-config tool, then UNMOUNT the drive, and try plugging it back in?04:25
holyguyverI do not have a folder named that04:26
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holyguyverthere is no fstab folder04:27
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stdinit's a file04:27
stdinnot a directory04:27
Dr_WillisIts time to learn some Linux FUNdamentals i think04:27
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Dr_Williscat /etc/fstab04:28
Dr_Willislook at the fstab file - that defines what gets mounted where. (well for non-removeable media)04:28
tekteentype "man man" Then "man bash" :-)04:28
holyguyverbut it is removable media04:28
Dr_Willisif you install the ntfs-config tool. run it then check the 2 box;'s it has.. then perhaops reboot.. it 'should' work04:29
Dr_WillisI dont use ntfs-reoveable media much. and when i do i add an entry in the fstab file for it.04:29
holyguyverI already did the ntfs config04:29
Dr_Willisjust to be sure its getting mounted right04:29
Ben_Cshello. i instaled a switch in my home network. WinXP works fine. Kubuntu: some progs (pidgin,skype) have internet, and some (firefox,opera,xchat) don't. please help!04:29
Dr_WillisIF the drive was allready mounted when you ran ntfs-config. you must unmount/remount it.04:29
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Dr_Williswhich  may have it confused if you ran ntfs-config while it was mounted.04:29
holyguyverI have unmounted it & restart my pc several times since then04:30
Dr_Willisthen i would say check the fstab file. make a entry to mount it manually04:30
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Dr_Willisthee should be entrys for any other ntfs disks you have. use them as an example04:31
holyguyverhere is the fstab http://pastebin.com/d640122f504:31
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Dr_Willisit appears you had no ntfs entries to begin with. so ntfs-config did not change it.04:32
emilsedgh!hi | PHPechowiec04:32
PHPechowiechow to upgrade my kde to 7.1004:32
ubotuPHPechowiec: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!04:32
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stdinPHPechowiec: ask in #ubuntu+104:32
emilsedghPHPechowiec: you mean, your kubuntu?04:33
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holyguyverwell now i just unmounted the drive & re-did the config04:33
emilsedghstdin: when this channel will become official gutsy support channel?04:33
stdinemilsedgh: when gutsy is releases04:33
Dr_Willisholyguyver you did run the ntfs-config tool as root?04:34
holyguyver& fstab now looks the same, unchanged04:34
holyguyveryes as sudo04:34
emilsedghstdin: just a few days! we will have restricted-manager! no more nvidia/ati problems here!04:34
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Dr_Willisholyguyver theres no ntfs entries to begin with - so its not changing them.04:34
PHPechowieci enter to the console sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and now i have 7.10(gusty) and I have kde 3.5 but I want kde 4.004:34
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Dr_Willisyou need to add a proper ntfs entry for it to change.04:34
holyguyverhow do I do that?04:35
stdinPHPechowiec: kde4 is unusable now, and not installed by default04:35
bazhangPHPechowiec: wait until December then04:35
stdinPHPechowiec: it won't be default in gutsy either04:35
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Dr_Willisthat url is a bit old.. wonder if theres a better one04:35
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions04:35
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Dr_Willisexample ntfs3g fstab entry --->04:36
PHPechowiecwhen kde 4.0 will be relased04:36
Dr_Willis    /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows ntfs-3g locale=en_US.utf8 0 004:36
stdin!kde4 | PHPechowiec04:36
ubotuPHPechowiec: KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php04:36
holyguyverI already have all of that installed, did that last week Dr_Willis04:36
Dr_Willisholyguyver then you just need the proper fstab entry... another example04:37
Dr_Willis-->  /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows ntfs-3g users,uid=THE_ID_OF_THE_OWNER,gid=THE_ID_OF_THE_GROUP 0 004:37
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holyguyverThe document could not be saved, as it was not possible to write to file:///etc/fstab. Check that you have write access to this file or that enough disk space is available.04:39
holyguyverthat is what it told me when I tried to save the new entry04:39
tekteendoes anyone know how to find the exact frame I pause on (videos)04:39
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ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:42
Dr_Willisholyguyver its a system file..  Logicially you MUST edit it as the root user04:42
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jdongstdin: whoa have I had it all last night?04:43
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holyguyverso you are telling me I must kdesku it then?04:43
Dr_Willisor however else you perfer to do root thing.04:43
stdinjdong: that's nothing compared to how long I had it in #ubuntu ;)04:43
Dr_Willisi use 'sudo vi /etc/fstab' myself :)04:43
jdongstdin: hehe :)04:43
Dr_Willisor sudo nano /etc/fstab04:44
Dr_Willisor kdesu whatevereditoryoulike /etc/fstab04:44
stdin"kdesu kate /etc/fstab"04:44
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Dr_Willisbbl -  wife is yelling.04:46
holyguyverkdesu kate /ect/fstab is what I used04:47
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holyguyverWell Dr_willis now it mounts, but it was mounting before, but it still is not giving me access to it.04:49
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holyguyverwoah guys ardchoille Dr_willis & so on, when I tried to safely unmount it it told me "Unfortunately, the device system:/media/sda1 (/dev/sda1) named 'SimpleDrive' and currently mounted at /mnt/sda1 could not be unmounted. Unmounting failed due to the following error: Cannot open /media/.hal-mtab"04:52
soa2iiHi there... I got a really weird problem... sometimes my keyboard prints the same char again and again... afaik it is no hardware problem04:53
soa2iinow i suppress it with the kde control center04:53
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holyguyverardchoille do you at least know what would cause that?04:54
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ardchoilleholyguyver: Wow, never seen that before. I have a feeling you're not going to get that drive working in Linux.04:54
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holyguyverBut what does the "Cannot open /media/.hal-mtab" mean?04:55
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mulander00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller]  (rev 03)<-- how to install drivers for this card?04:55
soa2iimulander: I think intel cards are standard supported...04:56
mulandersoa2ii: my gf installed kubuntu from wubi04:56
soa2iigf := geforce?04:56
mulanderwindows based installer04:56
ardchoilleholyguyver: It could mean that the file doesn't exist04:56
mulandergf == girl friend04:56
holyguyverisn't that file importent?04:57
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ardchoilleholyguyver: I don't have that file either04:57
mulanderthe question is how to install the drivers manually04:57
soa2iiHm... they are in the standard kernel... so they are still there...04:57
holyguyverArdchoilleyou are having a lot of first with my Kubuntu aren't you? :-p04:57
mulanderwubi uses alternate install cd from what I saw.04:58
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soa2iican you look into the /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?04:58
ardchoilleholyguyver: You can say that again04:58
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mulandersoa2ii: I can grep for vesa if you want to know that :)04:58
soa2iiok... :P04:59
holyguyverbelieve it or not my WinXP has just as many problems :p all my computers do, maybe it is something about legasy sistems that do that :p04:59
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ardchoilleholyguyver: Maybe it's something about how you use the computers?05:00
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soa2iimulander: and 'lsmod' doesn't show the module?05:00
holyguyvernope, I have onyl had kubuntu installed for two weeks & only been on it two days out of that05:00
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mulandersoa2ii: driver == i81005:00
mulanderbut glxinfo | grep direct -i shows direct rendering : no05:01
holyguyverI use computers mainly for office woprk, music, videos, & porn05:01
soa2iiHm... is DRI enabled?05:01
soa2iiin the xorg.conf05:01
mulanderI doubt it05:02
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mulanderbut it's not enabled on mine 205:02
mulanderand I get the direct rendering yes msg.05:02
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holyguyverI was a power user back in the days of win3.0, but am very rusty now though, so perhaps I indeed fiddle with things in odd ways, I do not know.05:03
soa2iiHave you set the driber from vesa to i180?05:03
mulandersoa2ii: no, the system set it by itself05:03
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soa2iiHuh? I thought you can grep for vesa :P05:03
mulanderI did, so I didn't see any results and told her to check the config file :)05:04
holyguyverwell I am calling it a night ardchoille talk to you in about two weeks again, & hey aren't you glad this time I wasn't killing you with my insistance on being kavorkian, this time my ext hhd was the one insisting :p05:04
soa2iiWhy can't she just install it "right" :P ... and aptitude show libgl1-mesa-dri05:04
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estelis there a way to set the standard umask for mounting ntfs partitions?05:06
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mulandersoa2ii: she has no cd burner, and the .iso I gave her was corrupted05:06
holyguyverArdchoille I can see it now a DebIAN linux durivative called KavorkIAN linux LoL :p05:06
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soa2iimulander: args... aptitude show libgl1-mesa-dri ?05:07
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lisacan anyone please help with an apt/dpkg problem? thanks!05:08
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holyguyverany distro devalupers out there, I freely give you the right to use the KavorkIAN Linux name for your own distro, you can GPL that name :p LoL05:08
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mulandersoa2ii: installed05:11
soa2iimulander: weird... i180 installed, loaded and set in the xorg.conf...05:12
soa2iimulander: what does the x11 log show?05:12
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mulandersoa2ii: can't check now as her pc is offline05:13
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mulandersoa2ii: I'm just wondering if here model supports direct rendering at all :)05:14
soa2iimulander: thats bad... i thnik the best will be: take a new *.iso and you will install all (:05:14
mulandersoa2ii: but thanks for the help anyways - another quick question - is there a way to 'close' Klamav properly?05:14
soa2iiHm... this is a deamon... isn't it?05:14
soa2iiclamd or so...05:15
mulanderclamav is a daemon05:15
mulanderklamav is just a front-end05:15
soa2iiwhat about05:15
mulanderand the front-end doesn't want to close :)05:15
mulanderstays in the system tray05:15
soa2iiAhh :D05:15
soa2iiEven not with strg+q?05:15
mulanderI think it's a bug with their app :)05:15
mulanderwell it quits after getting struck with the cursor of doom ^^05:15
soa2ii:S Why are you using it?05:15
mulandermy gf needed something for scanning the pendrive when it get's back from other pcs :)05:16
soa2iiClamav is just for protecting windows pcs :P05:16
mulandersoa2ii: yes and she dual boots05:16
Juacom99can anione plese remoend me a good divx palyer??05:16
soa2iiAh... hmm05:16
Juacom99ok thanks ^^05:16
soa2iiJuacom99: Kaffeine+xine (:05:17
bazhanghe said good..haha05:17
soa2iimulander: Hm... what about killall klamav05:17
mulandersoa2ii: I can kill it that's not the problem05:17
soa2iibazhang: therefore i mentioned kaffeine+xine ;)05:17
mulanderI just want to know if it's their bug that the app doesn't want to close using regular methods05:17
Juacom99what's xine?? sorry noob here :$05:17
mulanderJuacom99: simply speaking - xine is the engine that plays stuff05:18
soa2iiJuacom99: Just a backend05:18
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bazhangsoa2ii: got me..haha05:18
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Juacom99so this xine may works with amarok??05:19
mulanderJuacom99: amarok uses xine to play music05:19
soa2iimulander: Hm... what if you start klamav on the console and wath for errors on close?05:19
soa2iibazhang: hm?05:19
mulanderJuacom99: kaffeine uses xine to play music, and video.05:19
mulandersoa2ii: good idea05:19
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mulanderno errors05:20
mulanderbut I think i found the problem05:20
bazhangsoa2ii: xine rules? ok? haha05:20
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Juacom99hoo by the way good pastbin page (Y)05:20
mulanderthe must have code the app to minimize on the destroy signal05:20
mulanderand the same signal is sent when somone clicks close in the tray05:20
soa2iibazhang: I have no problems with my kaffeine/xine setup... it's all fine05:20
Juacom99i already add to my favorites05:20
mulanderso the app want's to minimize again insted of closing.05:20
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soa2iimulander: I don't really know if one wants to use such a bad software :D05:21
bazhangsoa2ii: sorry for the misunderstanding; I was just kidding around--xine is fine, I just prefer other than kaffeine. My bad!05:21
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soa2iibazhang: ok ;)05:21
mulandersoa2ii: well the idea of opensource software is to reports bugs right? so the can make it better :)05:21
soa2iimulander: :P ok05:22
mulandergo back to kernel 1.0 :)05:22
mulanderand compare to 2.605:22
mulanderif people would not report bugs then you would still be there05:22
soa2iimulander: :p those little changes :P05:22
soa2iiI would be much more happy if my keyboard would work... :/05:23
mulanderok I have to go afk05:23
soa2iimulander: bye...05:23
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mulandersee you all later and thanks for all the help soa2ii05:23
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MetrolSpeaking of buggies, anyone else having wifi problems after the last batch of updates?05:23
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MetrolI can iwlist with my wlan0 interface, but the NetworkManager doesn't show anything... and yes, wireless is enabled05:24
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bazhangMetrol: like whar?05:24
bloodNice...I made it :)05:25
Metrolbazhang: I no longer get a list of wireless hubs to select from on the KNetworkManager icon in the systray05:25
bloodI've been browsing around the internet all day and night trying to find tips and tricks on learning about Linux, but have come to find a lot of it overwhelming.05:26
bazhangMetrol: have you configured it in administrator mode?05:26
MetrolI was getting a nice list, and I was able to connect to my LinkSys box via wpa up until a couple of days ago05:26
bloodDoes anyone have any advice on how to fix my computer to get the sound working?  Everything is working except sound.05:26
Metrolbazhang: Yup... and it sees the wlan0 interface05:26
bazhangMetrol: are you comfortable using a terminal (Konsole)?05:26
bazhangMetrol: which card?05:27
MetrolOh heck... I know this one.....05:27
MetrolIntel...ummm, oh heck, need to look it up05:27
MetrolGot lazy about it while it was working :)05:27
bloodThat might help me actually, is there a command I can type to find out what sound card I have?05:27
bloodThank you.05:28
BluesKajblood, lspci | grep audio05:28
Metrol03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN Network Connection (rev 61)05:28
bloodThank you, blueskah & bahzang.05:28
BluesKajblood, or this : sudo asoundconf list05:29
bazhangblood: no problem05:29
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squidyi've got xorg configured to dual head.. i wanna run compiz only in screen 0.. if i execute compiz from terminal with only-current-screen it works.. but my doubt is how can i set this at the start up in kubuntu?05:30
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bloodLol, Names of available sound cards: CK8 - should I get more information before finding out how to get it working or is that all I need to google?05:30
bloodIt doesn't seem very complete05:31
Metrolsquidy, I don't know your answer exactly, but I'd suspect you'll have to dive into some of the KDM startup configs05:31
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MetrolIt'll most likely be one of them file copied over from XDM, so you'll most likely find your answer around those man pages05:32
squidyMetrol, i've tried to put the complete command of compiz into .kde/env scripts.. but it didn't work :(05:32
MetrolOh heck, where is the kdm configs in Linux?05:32
bloodI think I found it! 0000:00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation MCP2S AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a1)05:32
squidytoca aqui _o/05:32
NickPrestasquidy, have you ever written a script for /etc/init.d/?05:33
Metrolsquidy: I'll bet it has to be at the server level05:33
squidynick__, no i haven't05:33
BluesKajblood , perhaps you could copy and paste the lspci output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ so we can have a look , just post the pastebin resultant URL here05:33
MetrolI doubt you'd be able to do that kind of tweak as a user05:33
squidyfor that, no05:33
bazhangMetrol: it seems in development forum that there may be  a problem with the iwlwifi/iwl4965 driver05:33
BluesKajblood, then to set your default soundcard : sudo asoundconf set-default-card "name of soundcard"05:33
bazhangubuntuforums, sorry.05:33
NickPrestasquidy, you may want to examine the scripts in /etc/init.d and make a new one, called 'compiz-fusion' and adapt it to your needs.05:33
MetrolOh phewy... it WAS working so nicely for a couple of weeks here on Gutsy :(05:34
Metrolbazhang: Do you have a URL?05:34
squidynick__, nick__ are there any example about that?05:34
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bloodOk, thank you blues:  I did that and I have a large amount of text to paste - won't that spam the screen?05:34
bazhangcan I paste it here? It's kind of long...05:34
bazhangstdin: would that be ok?05:35
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:35
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Juacom99sorry another quiestion05:36
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Juacom99i'm installing xine05:36
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NickPrestasquidy, http://pastebin.ca/72898505:36
Juacom99and it said it need zlib05:36
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NickPrestasquidy, that is a simplistic example05:37
Metrolbazhang: You could just msg me off channel... I think that works with Pidgin here05:37
deviancestdin: Whre does openoffice store its autosaves and backups how can I access them05:37
bloodBluesKaj:  That is all of the information displayed by lspci - and well the main problem I'm having is I simply cannot get sound.05:37
MetrolHmmm, gonna learn all kinds of new stuff today :)05:37
squidyNickPresta, let me see.. thanks05:37
bloodThe CD player and audio programs just freeze up when I put a CD in.05:37
stdindeviance: no clue05:37
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devianceDamn, anyone know how to get open office back ups?05:38
stdinJuacom99: xine is already installed in kubuntu, don't compile it05:38
Juacom99ok thanks XD05:38
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bloodI guess vocabulary will be the biggest hurdle in learning Linux =O05:39
Juacom99but something is missing :05:39
bazhangthanks underdog500405:39
Juacom99i can't heard audio CD :S05:39
bloodme either :(05:39
BluesKajblood, k-menu/system settings/sound system/enable sound system,then choose hardware tab/select the audio device/Advanced Linux Sound Architecture, click apply05:40
squidyNickPresta, create a script for some daemon in init.d i know.. but my doubt is how to create that script for compiz-fusion.. 'cause i really need to have X server executing before compiz-fusion script starts05:40
bloodNice, let me try that :)05:40
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NickPrestasquidy, you could create a script and put it in ~/.kde/Autostart05:41
BluesKajblood , that's only part of it , there's more to come :)05:41
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VillHi, I'm sure you guys are sick of hearing this, but I've really hosed myself and need help. Anyone want to tackle what I think is a serious problem?05:41
AzzcoDoes anyone know how to install grub to a USB-stick from windows?05:41
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bloodThanks Blues, it's restarting now *crossing fingers*05:42
deviancestdin: It autorecovers on startup :D05:42
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AzzcoVill, tell us what's the problem05:42
BluesKajblood, thenext thing to do: in the terminal type ' alsamixer ', make sure the Master, PCM, Line & CD are all unmuted ,by using the "M" key'05:42
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bloodOk, this thing is restarting several times - not sure how long it will take05:43
bloodBut I'll do that as soon as it finishes05:43
squidyNickPresta, i'm using this solution at this moments.. but i'm having an inconvenient trouble with my kicker (pager).. and some icons like adept_notify that stay out of tray when kde Autostarts compiz at start up... ;(05:43
BluesKajrestarting what. blood ?05:43
villaaelI tried to install a new video driver (Nvidia) and now it won't start. If I boot in "normal" mode (non-recovery) I get the loading screen and the progress bar fills like normal but then the screen blinks and i get the loading screen with an empty bar and it just sits there05:43
villaaelI switched to my backup copy of xorg.conf but its still doing it05:44
cerituscan anyone hlp me get a Griffin imic working in kubuntu?05:44
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bloodblues:  When I applied the Advanced Architecture option and then clicked apply - it began cycling through a "Sound System Restarting" window05:44
Metrolbazhang: That thread is before the beta came out.  This card has been working okay since the beta.  I believe the card is still working okay, but that there's a problem with NetworkManager05:44
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bloodI think it's almost done though.05:44
villaaelLast night I got an error about the kernel version of the driver and my kernel version not being the same05:44
chisdasvintoneed help with nvidia drivers, someone can help me??05:44
Azzcovillaael, Ctrl+Alt+F1 log in then sudo dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh05:44
NickPresta!ask | chisdasvinto05:44
ubotuchisdasvinto: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:44
bazhangMetrol: my bad.05:44
bloodActually, it keeps going from 90% to 5% is this normal? :D05:45
AzzcoAt least you can change to the opensource nvidia driver with that command and then reinstall the nvidia drivers05:45
Juacom99is working for me :D05:45
Metrolbazhang: Hey, thanks for the effort... I just need to keep on the hunt05:45
Juacom99i can liten CD now :)05:45
chisdasvintoi got on xorg: EE error - failed to load module "NVIDIA"05:45
chisdasvintodpkg-reconfigure doesn't fix the problem05:46
MetrolI pulled the nvidia driver off the box... caused more problems than it solved05:46
BluesKajblood what app is cycling ?05:46
MetrolCouldn't put my lappy to sleep with it installed05:46
bazhangMetrol: sorry I couldn't fix it for you--I suspect such a new card will be fixed (drivers that is) some time not to long in the future.05:46
villaaelAzzco: should there be a space between xserver and xorg? I'm not getting any results from that, just displays the dpkg instructions05:46
Metrolbazhang: I don't think there's a problem with the card's drivers though05:46
chisdasvintotrying to return to the old driver give the same problem, before it was working fine05:46
Azzcovillaael, it was some time ago but if you have access to google use it ;905:47
Metrolthe wlan0 interface comes up, and I can iwlist access points05:47
NickPrestachisdasvinto, did you install the correct nvidia driver? Could you post your xorg.conf in a pastebin?05:47
bazhangMetrol: iwconfig05:47
bloodBlues:  Well I'm in the window "Sound & Multimedia - System..." and I clicked the "Advanced Linux Sound Architecture" then "Apply" - Next a small window "Restarting Sound System" popped up and has been going from 0 - 100 slowly over and over.05:47
ubuntuHi. I'm switching to a new hard disk  but I have some problems with booting.05:47
MetrolIt's the fancy graphical NetworkManager that doesn't seem to want to work05:47
cerituscan anyone hlp me get a Griffin imic working in kubuntu?05:47
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Metrolbazhang: I saw that... what I haven't taken the time to do here on Linux is setup the wpa_supplicant manually05:48
BluesKajok, blood , just close that window05:48
deviance!info griffin-imic05:48
ubotuPackage griffin-imic does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas05:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about griffin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:48
ceritus!info -griffin-imic05:48
ceritus!info griffin-imic05:48
bloodI think we're on the same track - I closed it and I'm going to go back in to see if the option is still selected then proceed to next step.05:48
BluesKajblood, in the terminal type ' alsamixer ', make sure the Master, PCM, Line & CD are all unmuted ,by using the "M" key'05:48
bloodYeah, it's still there as Advanced Arch... So hopefully it worked.05:48
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_GoRDoN_Next message should be someting like "Reading files needed during the boot" but my computer never gets to there05:49
chisdasvintopastebin, what's that?05:49
NickPresta!pastebin | chisdasvinto05:49
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ubotuchisdasvinto: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:49
bloodFor example:  Line [Off]  = mute?05:49
villaaelThat's part of the problem, I don't know what to google. :)05:49
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BluesKajMM= mute05:50
bazhangMetrol: it is loads easier in (shhh!)Gutsy.05:50
BluesKajunmuted =0005:50
timbo__I have two removable drives, one is a flash other is a WD 80 gig and i cant get kubuntu to see it but ubuntu does05:50
bloodRight, Line was mute!  PCM and Master were unmuted - and there is no CD.05:50
_GoRDoN_So I quess that some file still points to that old hard drive but I have no idea about which. Any ideas05:50
timbo__anyone know how to fix it05:50
bloodThere are two master's:  "Master" and "Master M"05:51
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bloodShould both be unmuted?05:51
BluesKajblood, do you have an IEC958 ctrl slider ?05:51
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bloodBlues:  Sorry, but I'm really not sure - is there a way to find out?05:52
ceritusthe imic is recognized in kmix but how do I get sound out of it? pls?05:52
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bloodBlues:  I'm a total newb.05:52
chisdasvintothis is my previous configuration that works on 9755, but now it doesn't: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39877/05:52
BluesKajuse the right and left arrow keys to move across the ctrls05:52
strog_i just installed the nvidia-glx-new onto my system05:52
strog_and now kubuntu is lagging a lot05:52
timbo__I have two removable drives, one is a flash other is a WD 80 gig and i cant get kubuntu to see it but ubuntu does05:52
timbo__anyone know how to fix it05:52
bloodBlues:  Yes, I am able to do that - and then I am able to toggle between unmute and mute.05:52
strog_it actually froze05:52
strog_is lagging a lot05:53
bloodBlues:  00 reads for (Master, PCM, and Line)05:53
devianceWhere are kopetes logs stores05:53
villaaelOk when I run sudo dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg -high, I get an error that says there are conflicting actions -e (--control) and -r (--remove)05:53
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bloodBlues:  Should "Center" be unmuted also?  It has a color fill of white green and red just like Master.05:55
cerituscan anyone hlp me get a Griffin imic working in kubuntu? i've been google searching forever and have gotten nowhere help pls??05:55
pagvillaael, it's " sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg " NOT the " ..dpgk -reconfigure"05:55
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villaaelah ha, thanks05:56
pagvillaael, if you insist on writing them seperatly, the " sudo dpkg --reconfigure " might also work..05:56
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chisdasvintofor me "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" doesn't help me to make the nvidia drivers works05:57
bloodI'm going to unmute "Center," hopefully that doesn't harm anything.05:57
deviancedpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg is the reccomended method05:57
devianceIt wont help them work, but you can restor your old drivers and make the machine work again05:57
devianceThats if you have the wrong drivers.05:58
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chisdasvintoit seems that the nvidia kernel module is not loaded on the boot05:58
deviancei.e you get a blank screen on boot05:58
deviancechisdasvinto: What happens when you boot?05:58
bloodBlues:  Still not working though - the sound file just freezes when I try to play.05:58
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chisdasvintoi got black, screen even with the old drivers. the ony way to load x server is with the vesa driver05:59
devianceWhat card do you have?06:00
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villaaelok, got an API mismatch: Nvidia kernel has the version 1.0-7184 but this module has the version 1.0-975506:00
bloodWow, this time that I typedi n alsamixer I have a few more options.06:00
chisdasvintonvidia NV43 Geforce 6600 GT - 256 MB06:00
devianceAre you sure you have the correct drivers installed? Mine did the same, but when I enabled them through the kcontrol monitor settings they worked fine06:00
devianceYou need the nvidia-glx-new, is that what you installed?06:01
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chisdasvintoit was i got before, and it was working fine, but i installed the new driver from nvidia website and then the old drivers didn't works again06:01
bloodSo I just learned that I downloaded and installed Dapper Drake when there is a newer "Feisty?"  Will that fix my sound problems?06:01
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bloodTo upgrade it?06:02
Fleckhi, i can't see how fast adept is downloading packages... only % :(06:02
devianceI take it the new one diddn't work?06:02
jpatrickFleck: clicked on details?06:02
Fleckthere;s no suc button06:03
jpatricknext to the process bar?06:03
Fleckone button - cancel download06:03
chisdasvintoboth of them the new (100.14.19) or the old (9755) don't work right now06:03
rysiek|plblood: most probably - yeah06:04
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bloodrysiek|pl:  is there a specific way to updgrade from this lesser version of Dapper Drake to the Feisty?06:04
chisdasvintofirst when i installed the new driver i got a API mismatch error, but "dpkg-reconfigure" solve it06:05
bloodrysiek|pl:  I'm a newb, and do not want to destroy anything.06:05
rysiek|plblood: you can dist-upgrade to Edgy and then to Feisty06:05
chisdasvintosince then, i alwayes got EE failed to load module, with the two drivers...06:05
devianceBlood make a few back ups06:05
rysiek|plblood: or you can clean-install feisty06:05
rysiek|plblood: I would suggest the second method06:05
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bloodrysiek|pl:  It's just as stable as Dapper?06:06
rysiek|plblood: you can save your personal data and settings simply by *not* formatting the /home partition during feisty's installation06:06
jamilidoes it matter if i burn feisty to rw or r?06:06
rysiek|plblood: I would say it's even more stable :)06:06
gnomefreakjamili: no06:06
devianceHe might not have it on a seperate partition06:06
jamilignomefreak: k06:06
gnomefreakblood: upgrade from dapper to edgy than edgy to feist06:06
jamilii'll install it tomorrrow then i believe06:06
rysiek|pljamili: it actually might. some drives might have problems with rw's, although it's extremely unlikely06:07
bloodryseik|pl:  I just repaired this computer for a friend - the hard drive crashed and I replaced it - they didn't want to spend the money to buy a copy of windows so I put Linux on it.06:07
bloodryseik|pl:  In other words there is nothing I need to save.06:07
rysiek|plblood: good choice :)06:07
rysiek|plblood: then definitely go for a clean install06:07
gnomefreakblood: better off installing feisty instead of upgrade06:07
bloodryseik|pl:  Just DL and install it just like I did for Dapper (delete everything on hd when asked)06:07
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rysiek|plblood: aye06:07
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bloodthanks to all06:08
bloodI'll try this out06:08
rysiek|plgood luck06:08
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cerituscan anyone hlp me get a Griffin imic working in kubuntu? i've been google searching forever and have gotten nowhere help pls??06:10
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ardchoilleI wonder how long a "sudo apt-get install *" would take06:12
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rewqneed some help06:12
Yorokobiardchoille, you'd run into too many dependency problems06:12
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rewqcould anyone help me with apt-get update probs in kubuntu 7.10 beta???06:13
villaaelok, i followed the fix i found for the api mismatch, which was to edit linux-disabled-modules-common, but I'm still getting the api mismatch error. any ideas?06:13
Yorokobirewq, see the topic: "Gutsy help _only_ in #ubuntu+1" :)06:13
biopodguys, can you please help me out with a radeon x1600 before i give up, start to cry and go to buy nvidia06:13
ardchoilleYorokobi: I don't think so, that's what a pm is for isn't it?06:13
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rewqcan you send me the full link06:14
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Yorokobiardchoille, there are packages (or, historically there have been) that conflict. Package A can't be installed with package P, for example.06:17
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ardchoilleYorokobi: Ah, yeah, that's right.06:17
cerituscan anyone tell me how to change the device that ALSA uses?06:19
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP306:19
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arashomg, does ubotu response differently in ubuntu/kubuntu irc chanel now??06:21
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:21
ghozalaHELP  I want an application to mount fat32 partion like the ntfs06:22
Dr_willisghozala,  and the problem is?06:22
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Dr_willisyou can easially mount ntfs read/writeable. with the ntfs-3g tools/06:23
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arashhe wants to mount fat3206:23
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Aloneahey, how do I mount my other hard drive? kubuntu used to mount it for me, but since I got this new hdd it hasn't. it is ntfs06:24
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arashanyway, anyone know any application that can take a DVD movie in .iso format from hard drive and directly play the movie?06:24
arashAlonea, do you know about ntfs-3g ?06:24
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Aloneaarash: yeah, but i thought you don't need it really. i just want to copy files from it06:25
Yorokobiarash, xine and mplayer should be able to play DVD iso's, if not, you can always mount it06:25
shuktyhi i have to edit a file using a text editor ... i forgot how the bash command to edit like administrator ... [ like gksudo  ]  can u help me cu all06:25
arashAlonea: You are correct06:25
AzzieIs it possible to install grub to a USB stick from windows?06:25
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robin_hi, I just installed the latest beta of kubuntu. I already have enabled the nvidia 3d driver, but I can't find where I can enable compiz/fusion.06:26
Aloneaarash: I just can't remember how to mount it. I thought it was mount /dev/hd0 or something like that06:26
ceritusi need help getting my griffin imic working on kubuntu help pls06:26
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arashAlonea: aha, 'sudo mount <drive> <mountplace>' I think, im not 10006:27
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Aloneahmm, thing is, I am not sure what kubuntu is calling my drive.06:28
Yorokobishukty, if you're in X using Konsole, then 'kate filename' will work. If you need to be root to edit it, 'kdesu kate filename'06:28
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arashAlonea: 'mount -l' I think06:29
villaaelOk, question: the nvidia driver installation script is telling that version 1.0-9755 is already installed on my system. Since that's the version its trying to install, there's no point installing again right?06:29
villaaelOr should I in case something is still corrupted?06:29
Aloneaarash: ok, I am going to guess its hda here, but it says specify filesystem type06:30
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arashAlonea: filesystem type is NTFS, isn't it?06:30
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Aloneaarash: yeah06:30
Aloneaarash: since xp won't take anything else. ^__^06:30
Dr_willisYou can make XP use fat3206:30
ceritusi need help changing alsa deviced anything anyone can suggest would be great06:31
AloneaDr_willis: well, I like fat32, but I have a lot of files that are bigger than 4 gigs.06:31
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ceritushas noone ever cganed the default alsa device?06:32
ceritushas noone ever *changed* the default alsa device?06:32
Dr_willisAlonea,  yep. thats an issue then.06:32
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waltercoolhi there!, someone know how make a multiboot dvd?? im making a ubuntu 7.10 compilation :P06:33
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP306:33
arashchecked that one ceritus?06:33
AloneaDr_willis: yup. .iso dvds.06:33
[HaldriK] hello06:34
ceritusthe sound is running if i plug my headphones into the jack sound is played06:34
Dr_willisThere is that tool that lets xp use ext2 partitions. :)06:34
Aloneaarash: how would you specify on the cmd? mount /dev/hda -ntfs /media/ntfs ?06:34
Dr_willisits -t ntfs for the filesystem type06:34
ceritusthe thing is that the jack is FUBAR so I have an imic from a previous life06:34
arashAlonea: you must begin with sudo too, since you must be root for mounting06:34
Dr_willisand /media/ntfs MUST allready exist06:35
AloneaDr_willis: oh? that would be fun to do one day, but I don't need to mess up my windows at the moment06:35
ceritusi plug in the imic and it is recognized in aplay -l and in kmix06:35
ceritusbut there is is no sound06:35
Aloneaoh, already have sudo on there and I created ntfs folder a minute ago on there06:35
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ceritusi figure i need to to change the device location in the sound system configuration but am not sure how06:36
ceritusit's driving me crazy06:36
villaaelgrr, X still won;t start. anyone know where the error log is off the top of your head?06:36
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Yorokobivillaael, /var/log/Xorg.0.log (typically)06:37
villaaelThanks yorokobi06:37
cerituscan anyone help?06:37
Aloneaah damn...I can't seem to find my ntfs drive on here.06:38
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Aloneauh oh...ok, according to dmesg [ 1230.772000]  NTFS-fs error (device hda): read_ntfs_boot_sector(): Primary boot sector is invalid.06:39
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[HaldriK] somebody has test 7.10 beta?06:39
Aloneaand [ 1230.772000]  NTFS-fs warning (device hda): is_boot_sector_ntfs(): Invalid boot sector checksum.06:39
Aloneaany ideas?06:39
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rewqcan any one help me with apt get problems06:40
villaaelah ha...in my xorg log file it says the module nvidia (which is whats in xorg.conf as my driver entry) can't be found06:41
bazhangrewq: what's the problem?06:41
rewqi cant get connection06:41
rewqwith apt-get06:41
rewqI have lan conection so I have internet06:42
[HaldriK] I have a problem on a msi laptop S300X, the installer stand at 87%, cd integrity are ok, filesystem are ext306:42
rewqbut no connection with servers06:42
rewqim on kubuntu beta06:42
biopodvillaael: what card are you trying to setup? tomorw I'll proabably go to replace my ATI with nvidia, would like to know what to avoid.06:42
villaaelGeForce Go 730006:43
bazhangrewq: does the system recognize that you are connected to the internet? can you web browse, etc.?06:43
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villaaelThe crappy thing is that it worked fine and I tried to put on a newer driver to speed up WoW :/06:43
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biopodvillaael: thanks, i took it of my list.06:43
villaaelAnd now I can't run X at all06:43
rewqim chating06:43
rewqin  can browse06:43
rewqbut adept wont work06:44
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rewqsudo apt-get update from shell06:44
rewqwont work eather06:44
biopodvillaael: that's what happen when we fix what aint broken :P06:44
bazhangrewq: what error message do you get when you sudo apt-get update>06:44
shuktyapt-get install tor privory06:45
villaaelbiopod: tell me about it. I'm kicking myself for not being happy with the 20fps I was getting06:45
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rewqI cant even copy paste from shell06:46
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biopodvillaael: you are in a better position then I am. I bought a brand new box, and the "only thing" i over looked was only the 2 hardest things to setup.06:46
rewqmaybe touchpad probs06:46
bazhangvillaael: I have that same card, and no problems here.06:46
biopodvillaael: video and wifi.06:46
bazhangrewq: what is the error message?06:46
bazhangrewq: without that I cannot help you.06:46
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rewqdo know any comand06:47
rewqso i can copy the text from the shell06:47
rewq and paste here06:47
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rewqcause my touchpad dont do it06:47
villaaelbazhang: what version of the drivers are you running? I downloaded the latest and its all screwed up06:47
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rewqwait i getin my mouse06:48
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rewq1 sek06:48
bazhangthe restricted drivers for kubuntu Gutsy--100.something something villaael06:48
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villaaelOh, I'm running feisty. Thing they would still work? This is driving me nuts06:49
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bazhangvillaael: can't say about Feisty--under the beta I have had zero problems with this card--though I'm not running high fps games either...haha06:50
villaaeli might step up to gutsy just to give it a shot06:50
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villaaelcan't be any worse than it is now that's for sure06:50
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bazhangvillaael: but wait until 10/18 (haha); it's just too dangerous now...06:51
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rewqok no way I can copy paste the error message here:))06:51
rewqcray kubuntu06:51
DarkWizzardGuys I have a tricky one for you06:51
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Yorokobinah, Gutsy has been pretty stable; it just has a lot of updates every day :)06:52
rewqbut in some words06:52
rewqit's stuck at 25%06:52
DarkWizzardI'm Using feisty fawn, and a few days ago I had 190 MB free, I didn't copy anything else on that partition, at least not something big, and now I only have 50 MB free06:52
DarkWizzardwth ?06:52
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DarkWizzardI already did sudo apt-get clean06:52
bazhangrewq: sorry I can't help you then--you can't even type it?06:52
villaaelupdates are fine with me as long as it gets me running again06:52
DarkWizzardand it didn't get modyfied06:52
rewqok wait...06:52
villaaelcan i update to gutsy with apt-get?06:52
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villaaelcause i'm stuck with just command line right now on that laptop and I'm nowhere near good enough to mount an iso and use it from command line06:53
bazhangvillaael: yes sure, though it's a ton of updates once you get them.06:53
ardchoillevillaael: You can but lots of people experience breakage doing it06:53
rewqhere it is:06:53
rewq Could not connect to archive.canonical.com:80 (, connection timed out06:53
rewqErr http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security Release.gpg06:53
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rewq  Could not connect to security.ubuntu.com:80 (, connection timed out06:53
rewqErr http://it.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/main Translation-en_US06:53
rewq  Could not connect to it.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (, connection timed out06:53
rewqErr http://archive.canonical.com gutsy/partner Translation-en_US06:53
rewq  Could not connect to archive.canonical.com:80 (, connection timed out06:53
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ardchoille!paste | rewq06:54
uboturewq: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:54
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villaaelanyone have the package name? searching for it but nothing so far06:54
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bazhangrewq: sounds like a server issue, and not with your computer, you might want to check out #ubuntu-it06:55
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ardchoillevillaael: Which package?06:55
rewqany idea??06:55
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rewqwhat i can do06:55
villaaelardchoille: gutsy beta06:55
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lovrehi all. I need to read some text, but my monitor goes black if i dont touch my mouse for a while. How do i turn thiss off? (kubuntu)06:55
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ScorpKinghi lovre. :)06:56
ardchoillevillaael:  there isn't a package. you have to modify your sources.list file and do an upgrade06:56
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tretlehow do i install kde4 from gutsy?06:57
ardchoilletretle: kde4 is barely usable right now06:57
jhutchinstretle: gutsy support is in #ubuntu+106:58
ScorpKinglovre: in kcontrol - Apearance & Themes --> Screen Saver. increase the time.06:59
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lovreScorpKing: my screen server is disabled06:59
jhutchinslovre: or right-click the desktop.06:59
ardchoillelovre: Also, kcontrol > Peripherals > Monitor & Display > Power saving tab07:00
lovreScorpKing: and its not screensaver what activates, itj just black screen07:00
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jhutchinslovre: Powe save setting in your BIOS maybe?  OR what ardchoille said.07:00
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tretlei want to see how far its come07:00
lovreardchoille: no, that is set to 45 minutes07:00
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lovreardchoille: this happens in like 20 sec07:00
Tm_T!away > deviance|fps07:01
tretlewill use gnome as my main desktop though07:01
ardchoillelovre: Then I would check BIOS settings07:01
villaaelardchoille: what do I need to add to sources.list? Can't seem to find that anywhere07:01
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lovreardchoille: if its set in bios than it would act same under windows, wouldnt it?07:01
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ardchoillevillaael: upgrading has the possiblity of breaking everything.. I don't feel comfortable  giving advice.07:01
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ardchoillelovre: Unless windows has settings to override it07:02
villaaelUnderstandable. I'm already broken though :)07:02
lovreardchoille: ill look, be right back07:02
ardchoillevillaael:  if you're already broken, you shouldjn't upgrade at all.07:03
ubotuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)07:03
ardchoillevillaael: Gutsy is scheduled to be released in 11 days anywa07:04
villaaelyeah, true07:04
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villaaelbut at this point I won't be able to upgrade cause I can't even get X to start07:04
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ardchoillevillaael: You're better off getting the broken items fixed first.07:05
ardchoillevillaael: if you've messed with xorg.conf, there's likely a backup file in /etc/X1107:05
villaaelThat's what I'm trying but everything I've found so far isn't working07:06
villaaelAnd I did back up to my backup and still no luck07:06
villaaelI do have an older one I guess I could try07:06
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lovrenothing in BIOS about that07:07
ardchoilleThat's one of the things I feel ubiquity should do: backup xorg.conf before the user logs in07:07
ardchoilleThat and sources.list07:07
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LjLit should also enable root but really make it a sandbox into a fake system :)07:08
villaaelis there a default video driver other than nvidia I can use just to get back up and running?07:08
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toxicfumehi all07:08
ardchoilleLjL: Yes, I agree07:08
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Yorokobivillaael, nv or vesa07:08
ardchoillevillaael: for nvidia, there is the "nv" driver07:08
toxicfumeI just installed kubuntu 7.04 on my computer with a Linksys wireless card (WPM54G), but after i installed, i cannot connect to any wireless network :( Can someone please help07:08
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:09
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villaaelthanks, changed my driver entry to that and restarted. crossing my fingers07:09
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toxicfumei tried looking in the wifidocs wiki, but nothing is displayed about this problem, my card supposedly works out of the box, but it doesn't connect :(07:09
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villaaelstill no go. progress bar loaded, then immediately unloaded and shut down07:10
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ardchoillevillaael:  for future reference, no need to reboot.. you just need to restart xorg with: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart07:10
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villaaelthat's what i meant, didn't actually do a restart07:10
toxicfumeit doesn't display any wireless networks at all07:10
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ScorpKingtoxicfume: gimme a sec. getting a link...07:11
toxicfumeScorpKing: thanks07:11
ScorpKingtoxicfume: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty07:11
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ScorpKingtoxicfume: you need the drivers.07:12
villaaelstarting to wish i had an install cd. wiping and starting over would be easier at this point07:12
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villaaelholy cow! I don't know what I did, but I have X!!07:12
toxicfumeScorpKing: but my card is a RT2500 chipset..not a broadcom07:12
bazhangvillaael: yess!07:13
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toxicfumeScorpKing: isn't it?07:13
ScorpKingtoxicfume: not sure.07:14
bazhangtime to dist-upg er upgrade!07:14
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villaaelbazhang: lol...I think I'll wait.07:14
toxicfumeScorpKing: my card WMP54G is rt250007:14
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bazhangvillaael: just kidding around...07:15
ScorpKingtoxicfume: dmesg | tail - any wifi errors?07:15
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ScorpKingtoxicfume: my linksys is bcm.07:17
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toxicfumeScorpKing: it depends on the model too, what model is yours?07:17
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ScorpKingtoxicfume: not sure. will have to pull it out to check. is that safe?07:19
alesan^hi how can I prevent my X display to go "black" after a certain amount of time I do not touch the keyboard?07:19
alesan^the screen doens't even go in powersave, it gets only black, which is silly07:19
bazhangalesan^: screensaver preferences?07:20
alesan^no, the screensaver is disable07:20
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Zorixmine is worse, it goes to blank screen and never comes back07:21
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toxicfumeScorpKing: no no need :)07:22
toxicfumebut thanks for the effort :)07:22
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NewI can't start krusader in root mode, dcopserver is already running error07:23
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toxicfumecan anyone help me with getting my linksys wireless pci adaptor to work?07:23
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NewCaledoniai can't start my krusader in root mode because of dcopserver07:24
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waltercoolsomeone know how do a dvd multiboot iso of linux?07:25
ScorpKingtoxicfume: i lost connection. don't you need to load a driver for the card or something?07:25
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toxicfumeScorpKing: howdo i? it says in the wiki that it's already in there for my card or something07:26
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NewCaledoniai can't start my krusader in root mode because of dcopserver07:26
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ScorpKingtoxicfume: anything in the logs?07:26
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toxicfumeScorpKing: what logs?07:28
villaaelwell, x started but now i'm having opengl problems and can't run anything requiring 3d.07:28
ScorpKingtoxicfume: try dmesg | tail first. if nothing poke around in /var/logs/07:28
bazhangoops sorry for the page break--after 10/1807:29
toxicfumeScorpKing: i did that but didn't notice anything wrong07:29
toxicfumeScorpKing: i dont understand these logs :S07:29
ScorpKingtoxicfume: hehe. that doesn't help much then. :P07:29
toxicfumeScorpKing: i just know that it is supposed to work (according to the wikis) butit doesn't07:30
ScorpKingtoxicfume: can you pastebin /var/log/messages ?07:30
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toxicfumeScorpKing: it's a different computer :S07:30
ScorpKingtoxicfume: oops. :(07:30
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ScorpKingtoxicfume: anyting in the logs about 'unable to load blabla' or something like that?07:31
toxicfumeoky wait07:31
toxicfumewhich log do i check?07:31
ScorpKingin /var/log/messages07:32
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toxicfumeScorpKing: no errors that i can see07:33
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ScorpKingtoxicfume: run lsmod | less . is there anything that look like it can be related to your card?07:35
tretlehope thats the new kde panel07:35
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toxicfumeschiste: oaky wait07:36
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villaaelAnyone here run WoW with wine in gutsy?07:37
toxicfumeScorpKing: okay it's  huge list :S But i see rt2500 there which is my card for sure07:37
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ScorpKingtoxicfume: the card works then. can you manually connect to a wireless network?07:38
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toxicfumeScorpKing: no i cant :/07:39
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ScorpKingtoxicfume: does it not see the networks or does it stop connecting at 28% ?07:39
deviancedWhat language is the easiest for begginers to make programs in?07:40
toxicfumeScorpKing: earlier it was stopping at 28%, but now it just doesn't see any networks :/07:40
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deviancedPrograms not webpages07:40
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villaaeldevianced: depends on what you want to do but perl and php are both pretty easy to use07:40
deviancedI am good at PHP07:40
ScorpKingdevianced: take time and learn something decent.07:40
waltercooldevianced: basic07:40
deviancedNooo Applications, not websites07:40
pjac-1toda a vez que coloco o cursor do rato sobre um menu aparece da respectiva discrio. Alguem sabe como retirar essa ajuda???!!07:41
waltercooldevianced: and next is pascal07:41
villaaelCobol even07:41
toxicfumeScorpKing: any ideas?07:41
ScorpKingtoxicfume: i'm out of ideas. if it stops at 28% it's because of authentication problems.07:41
toxicfumeScorpKing: aw schucks :(07:42
ScorpKingtoxicfume: maybe see what's in /etc/network/interfaces07:42
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lovrehow can i monitor system temperature?07:43
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ScorpKinglovre: there are a few superkaramba scripts that can do that very easy. got that theme installed the other day?07:44
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toxicfumeScorpKing: the file interfaces doesn't exist :/07:44
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ScorpKingit's /etc/network/interfaces07:45
ScorpKingmust be there if you use *ubuntu.07:45
lovreScorpKing: i coulnd get superKaramba to work. so i gave up on that07:45
ScorpKinglovre: it's in the universe repo07:46
kubuntuhello, i need help. emm.. how to change the display setting coz its stuck at 640 x 480 only.07:46
ScorpKinglovre: sudo aptitude install superkaramba07:47
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toxicfumeScorpKing: okay no errors in that file07:48
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djdarkman_how come apport-qt doesn`t notice strigi crashes?07:48
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ScorpKingtoxicfume: there won't be. is there - auto eth1 ?07:49
villaaelalright...I give up. I'm back to X not starting in either kernel07:49
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villaaelI'm gonna wipe and reinstall I think07:49
inaetyhow can i convert mp4 to avi?07:49
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kubuntuis there any other way to change the display setting coz its stuck at 640 x 480 only..07:50
toxicfumeScorpKing: yes there is auto eth1 and ther is auto ra0 too (which is my wireless adaptor)07:50
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ScorpKingtoxicfume: remove the options below ra0 (ESSID and so on). only put there - iface ra0 inet dhcp07:52
ScorpKingtoxicfume: maybe it will pick up networks again but will get stuck at 28%07:52
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villaaelkubunt: when you go to display settings is 640x480 the only one available?07:53
toxicfumeScorpKing: okay let me try07:53
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ScorpKinglovre: can you get superkaramba installed?07:54
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toxicfumeScorpKing: yup it's stuck at 28% now07:55
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toxicfumeScorpKing: how do i resolve this?07:55
ScorpKingtoxicfume: that is because there is authentication on the router. mine does the same. not sure how to sort it out but i just use the router without any authentication for now.07:56
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toxicfumeScorpKing: but it even happens on open networks :S07:56
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ScorpKingtoxicfume: hmmm. that suck. maybe it tries to authenticate on the open network.07:57
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Tstnztoxicfume: I had the same problem... try to activate wireless by windows... and then restart in ubuntu...07:57
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toxicfumeTstnz: activate wireless by windows, what do you mena?07:58
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Flare183How do i configure Kontact to read and write to and from my windows live mail?07:58
Tstnztoxicfume: windows can control bios ... with applet for your laptop... try to connect wireless by win and then restart and go to ubuntu07:58
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toxicfumeTstnz: i'm using a desktop, i'm just using a wireless pci adaptor inside the pc08:00
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jumpedafter a 6 year search i've found the distro for me.....Kubuntu!!!  =D08:00
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Tstnztoxicfume: sorry... I thought u with laptop08:02
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fdoving /away08:04
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ScorpKingtoxicfume: have you tried a static ip for the wireless?08:05
toxicfumeScorpKing: not yet08:05
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ssmasudis there any text viewer in ubuntu like notepad08:06
quixogressmasud: kate08:07
fdovingssmasud: kubuntu have kate, kedit, kwrite among others.08:07
LjLssmasud: notepad is a text *editor*, actually. and in *kubuntu*, there is kate by default, in *ubuntu*, there is gedit08:07
sub[t] rnlgreetings all08:07
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veselinanyone to give me an advice about dual boot between ubuntu and winxp ?08:08
ScorpKingveselin: install xp first and then ubuntu08:09
ubuntu_hi all, isn't there a kio archiver? I need to backup few directories from k3b, I am on LiveCD08:09
veselinScorpKing: i did so08:10
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ScorpKingoh ok.08:10
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nybbleis there anyone here with experience installing kubuntu on a macbook?08:11
ssmasudi am using NAM in NS2, i am getting an xlib error,08:11
ssmasudXlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server08:11
ssmasudXlib: No protocol specified08:11
ssmasudnam: couldn't connect to display ":0"08:11
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toxicfumeCan someone please help me get my wireless pci adaptor working?08:14
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ubuntu_hi all, can I just add content of / to DVD to back it up?08:14
ubuntu_I thought there would be something like tar KIO, but it works only the other way round08:15
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ubuntu_it makes it possible to open tar files, not create them08:15
squidyis anyone here using compiz and xorg configured to dual head?08:16
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VSpikeubuntu_: why not create a tar from the command line and back that up?08:17
VSpikeubuntu_: did you look at "Keep"?08:19
kilraea normal user can just back up /, you won't have permission to read certain files08:19
ubuntu_VSpike I am on a liveCD won't that need enough disk space?08:19
ubuntu_HDDs are full08:20
ubuntu_kilrae I am backing up /08:20
kilraesorry, that should say can't08:20
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ubuntu_kilrae I am on a LiveCD wanting to backup my /, I can read ok (sudo)08:21
VSpikeubuntu_: I think may be stuck anyway then because a lot of DVD/CD writing software requires enough free space to make the image first08:21
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ubuntu_VSpike I believe k3b is clever enough :)08:21
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VSpikeubuntu_: you're probably right :)08:21
ssmasuddoes anybody know how to handle XLIB errors??..No Protocol specified08:22
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ubuntu_archiving it doesn't work apparently because of the space08:23
fdovingubuntu_: you can burn / to a dvd, but if you have anything there i suspect it'll be more than one DVD in size. might want to use some smart system with volumes etc. making files of 4.5G or something like that.08:23
ubuntu_I will just burn all those files I guess08:23
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ubuntu_dont you know what permissions will I have to set would I ever want to come back to the previouus distro?08:23
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fdovingubuntu_: you need to use the archive feature of tar, to get the dev files, symlinks, full permissions etc.08:24
fdovingubuntu_: there is also partimage and mondo rescue suite.08:25
ssmasudXlib: connection refused by 0.0...does anybody have an idea??08:25
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ubuntu_k3b asked me twice: I told not to follow links (to add links) and to insert FIFOs or something like that08:26
fdovingssmasud: the xserver at 0.0 (the first X), refuses connections from clients (graphical applications). wrong user? X not running?08:26
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ssmasudfdoving..how to i check that??08:26
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fdovingssmasud: is X running?08:27
ssmasudfdoving: how do i check that??08:27
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fdovingssmasud: 'pidof X' - if it says some number, it's running.08:29
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fdovingssmasud: if it's silent it's not running.08:29
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ssmasudfdoving:yes its running08:29
ICXCNIKAI wonder if it would be better to run Xubuntu on my Inspiron 5100 instead of Kubuntu.08:30
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stpgCan anyone help me? I neet to resize my root partition.08:31
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter08:31
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mikeI have a problem with my IDE slave disk (hdb). It was a slave under Windows 2000 (only data no OS) and I successfully mounted it on /media in Ubuntu with ntfs-3g driver08:33
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mikeBut now it seems it doesn't mount anymore08:33
ssmasudfdoving: it was a user problem....i switched...its running fine..thanks08:34
stpgi have already resize and move all other partiotions but have no success with root partition. i have boot from live cd start qtparted, but it don't allow to modify ext3 fs. I've remove journal and now i am able only to resize root partition, but i need to move it (is is last partiotion on disk).08:34
mikeWhen I 'sudo mount -a' it says: Failed to access '/dev/hdb1': No such file or directory08:34
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fdovingstpg: moving the starting point isn't supported if i recall correctly.08:35
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mikefdisk -ls shows me the /dev/hdb* partitions08:35
Ahmuckwhat is the preferd snmp package in gutsy?08:36
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fdovingAhmuck: snmp? (net-snmp)? - do you mean the server?08:37
fdovingin that case, get 'snmpd'08:37
stpgfdoving: I have successfully moved /dev/sda6 ext3 partition just mount off it and move with gparted. Is where any difference in functionality between gparted and gtparted?(i cannot install gparted on live cd)08:39
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jhutchinsAhmuck: snmp is overkill for anything short of a campus network.08:39
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stpgfdoving: but i cannot move /dev/sda7 partiotion with qtparted08:39
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fdovingstpg: did you move the startingpoint of the partition? - gparted is maintained, qtparted is not to that degree. i recommend the gparted livecd, it's 50MB.08:40
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fdoving!gparted | stpg08:40
ubotustpg: GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php08:40
jhutchinsgparted live CD is pretty easy.08:41
mikeI tried to mount /dev/hdb1 with gparted but it says: Could not mount /dev/hdb1 on /media/Temp mount: special device /dev/hdb1 does not exist08:41
mikefdisk -ls DOES see the /dev/hdb* partitions08:42
stpgok thanks. i try gparted08:42
mikeHow can i mount ???08:42
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jhutchinsmike: what does mount tell you when you use it directly?08:49
mikentfsfix /dev/hdb1 also Failed. Says finally Volume is corrupt. You should run chkdsk08:50
jhutchinsmike: Is there a filesystem on it?08:50
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stpgI have installed gparted instead of qtparted and it allows me to grow partition (move startpoint). Thanks!08:50
jhutchinsmike: sounds pretty messed up.  You can get chkdisk from a recent Windows install disk.08:50
mikejhutchins: mount gives me a long list but without any /dev/hdb* entries08:51
jhutchinsstpg: Don't try to resize the partition you're running from.08:51
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mikethe filesystem is ntfs08:51
jhutchinsmike: mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/hdb1 /media/Temp08:51
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jhutchinsmike: Where did the filesystem come from?  How did it get corrupted?08:52
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melomanehi,where can i find list of available packages in kubuntu dvd?08:52
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mikefdisk -ls gives me HPFS/NTFS (three times) and W95 Ext'd (LBA) one time08:52
melomanei found packages in cd in many websites,but i need packages of dvd08:53
stpgjhutchins: yes i know. i am useing gusty live cd right now08:53
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mikejhutchins: mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/hdb1 /media/Temp gives me the aforementioned 'Failed to access '/dev/hdb1': No such file or directory'08:54
fdovingmelomane: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/7.04/release/08:55
mikefilesystem came from a Windows2000 Server Edition installation. At first I could mount the different partitions but suddenly I got problems08:55
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fdovingmelomane: that is files on the dvd, in addition to the live system.08:56
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melomanefdoving: thanks, but i cant file list of packages on a kubuntu dvd08:56
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fdovingmelomane: like, on -the- dvd?08:57
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melomanefdoving: ha ,i found, i must see manifest, right?08:57
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mikeIf I recall well, the first check i did when the problems occured was a ls -lAF /media. This gave me question marks08:58
mikeI think the filesystem got corrupted when i wrote a file to it.08:59
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fdovingmelomane: everything under /casper/ is the live system things iirc.08:59
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mikeany hd repairing software ? Can gparted do some tricks ? Google came up with testdisk09:00
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mikeGParted shows an exclamation mark to the hdb* partitions.09:01
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mikeInfo I get for fi. /dev/hdb5: filesystem ntfs, size: 29.29 GB, path /dev/hdb5, status: not mounted, first sector: 37961658, last sector: 99394154, total sectors: 6143249709:03
mikeWarning: The device /dev/hdb5 doesn't exist09:03
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mikeany suggestions ?09:12
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newsensei got vista and kubuntu and want to resize my partitions, what should i use ?09:15
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uganewsense: first, a good backup tool. Then parted09:15
Black_Monkeydoes ubuntu do read/write for vfat out of the box?09:16
Lynouremike: if you still use MS Windows, test it from that side, if you haven't yet09:16
newsenseparted cool09:16
uganewsense: resizing partitions that contain data isn't too obvious09:16
ugamake sure you have backups. I lost data that way09:16
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DaSkreechBlack_Monkey: yes09:16
newsenseuga: so its complicated ?09:16
Lynouremike: the Linux ntfs writing is not yet 100% perfect.09:16
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Black_MonkeyDaSkreech: oh right... because I have a microSD card, formatted in my nokia mobile, and I can't seem to write to it :-S09:17
newsenseuga: both clean installs so i have nothing to backup right now09:17
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DaSkreechand is unlikely to become so09:17
uganewsense: not complicated per se. But not sure how safe it is, especially when you have a non-linux formatted partition. I did that with qtparted a few years back ( a frontend for parted ), and the app crashed while on the process...09:17
akrotenglish russians?09:17
newsenseerr that isnt cool09:17
ugasure using parted is safer09:17
ugathan using a gui for it09:17
ugaand that was a few years back as I said09:18
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DaSkreechLess moving parts the better09:18
newsenseill try parted, if worst comes to worst ill reinstall both os's and set the sizes i really want during install09:18
waylandbillhas anyone tried "SystemRescueCD" ?09:18
Lynourewaylandbill: yes, some time back09:18
mikeLynoure: can I recover the ntfs partitions so that i can copy my data from it ?09:19
waylandbillLynoure: is it worthwhile?09:19
DaSkreechmike: yes09:19
newsenseuga: parted options pretty cryptic or am i safe "newbie to resizing partitions" to try it09:19
DaSkreechmike: Once it's not physically damaged09:19
Lynourewaylandbill: It's handy for what it is meant for :)09:20
mikeDaSkreech: I found something about Testdisk tool. Is that something for me or do you have a suggestion ?09:21
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ScorpKingmike: can you put that hd into a box with xp?09:21
DaSkreechI missed it did you lose your filetable?09:21
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Wolf23some body help!!09:22
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots09:22
mikeScorpKing: no09:23
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LynoureWolf23: So, what do you need help with? (not promising anything yet)09:23
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Wolf23Lynoure:  thanx, but i have gnokiii not working fine09:23
ScorpKingmike: that suck. HandyRecovery works well to get stuff back from a ntfs disk tho.09:23
stpgmike: i can suggest you Hiren's BootCD. It helped me several times to recovery data when i drop my partition table. It has many useful utils09:24
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LynoureWolf23: sorry, I don't know anything about gnokii. Maybe someone will be able to help you though, if you tell them how it does not work...09:25
ugaouch, newsense left09:26
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ugaheh, wb09:26
Wolf23Lynoure:  thanx :)09:26
uganewsense: it was pretty simple iirc09:26
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uganewsense: you can use the frontends though gparted/qtparted09:26
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newsenseinstall qtparted and resize that way, ive seen your skillz in here so i trust your judgement09:27
newsenseuga:much appreciated btw09:27
mikestpg: ok I will evaluate that if there are no commandline tools or ubuntu packages for recovering ntfs partitions09:27
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uganewsense: notice that you can't resize a partition while you're using it09:28
newsenseuga:once i get my partitions setup the way i want im gold, been trying to get the money for windows os and finally got vista09:28
ugafor example your /home09:28
DaSkreech!info testdisk09:28
ubotutestdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.5-1build1 (feisty), package size 550 kB, installed size 1784 kB09:28
DaSkreechmike ^^09:28
newsenseuga: thats another unforseen problem, lol09:28
uganewsense: why don't you just install windows in a virtual machine09:28
ugalike VirtualBox09:29
ugacan the hardware handle it?09:29
ugaie, fast enough09:29
newsenseuga: i want to give more disk space to my vista partition from this / part09:29
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ugaoh ok, so it's already installed09:29
newsenseuga: like vmware ?09:29
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ugayes, but VirtualBox is free09:29
ugaunlike VMware Workstation09:30
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ugayou have vmware server and other alternatives, but vbox does nicely09:30
newsenseuga: i only want windows to play cs:source, otherwise i dont run ms brand os's09:30
ugac sharp?09:30
DaSkreechI forget are you akllowed to install vista in a VM?09:30
newsenseuga: counter-strike09:30
ugaoh lol09:30
DaSkreechcounter strike09:30
ugaDaSkreech: iirc vmware supports vista09:31
newsenseuga: and i only own 98ser and vista ms os's09:31
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DaSkreechuga: No09:31
stpgmike: there are free downloads (e.g. http://www.zshare.net/download/45098444367e/). I don't know if where are good linux tools for ntfs recovery. Hiren's boot cd halps me and it may halp you too8)09:31
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ugaDaSkreech: uhm... VirtualBox lists Vista on the OS list09:31
DaSkreechI mean the vista license does it allow you to?09:31
ugaso it can be done09:31
ugaDaSkreech: you're installing it on a machine, either real or virtual, so why not09:31
DaSkreechNot technical, legal09:31
newsenseuga: i would love to just install vmware or wine and run the game that way, plays good in windows though :)09:31
ugaas far as you install it on a single box09:31
newsenseerr :(09:31
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ugaDaSkreech: and he paid for it, so why give a d****mn about MS =)09:32
uganewsense: ??? on vmware you install windows09:32
ugait's windows09:32
ugaso it must run fine, as far as it's fast enough09:33
newsensei meant cssource09:33
ugayou need to put in the vista CD and install it first09:33
uganewsense: yes09:33
uga"plays good in windows though :)"09:33
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ugavmware runs _Windows_09:33
newsenseuga: i got vista and kubuntu and want to resize partitions atm09:33
uganot a clone09:33
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newsenseuga: sorry was thinking of some emulator i ran a few years back to run osx in debian09:36
newsenseuga: had to have the image file of the osa for it09:36
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zekeanyone know of any possible reason why I would have no icons in OpenOffice?09:42
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ubunturoszeke: running Oo on?09:42
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zekeof course09:42
ubunturoszeke: may be it is missing the kde bindings.09:43
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zekehmmm...what's the source name for those?09:43
ubunturoszeke: (sorry, assumed this was #kde)09:43
ubunturoszeke: not sure. Use Adept09:43
DaSkreechzeke: You need the oo-kde package?