[12:40] <mark4931> so what do i type then?... sorry...
[12:40] <mark4931> in command line..
[12:40] <stdin> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[12:40] <sub[t] rnl> yup
[12:40] <mark4931> ok
[12:40] <sub[t] rnl> or you can open Adept Manager in X and search for the package
[12:40] <mark4931> i dont know how to do that..
[12:40] <mark4931> ill just typ it and see what happens
[12:42] <mark4931> itd doing something
[12:42] <sub[t] rnl> hehe
[12:42] <sub[t] rnl> apt-get is your friend
[12:42] <sub[t] rnl> cuddle it
[12:42] <mark4931> haha ok
[12:42] <mark4931> ill do that
[12:42] <mark4931> cant you just serch for it in the synaptics too?...
[12:43] <stdin> apt-get is your friend, but aptitude is mine :)
[12:43] <sub[t] rnl> :P
[12:43] <mark4931> haha
[12:43] <mark4931> ok its done
[12:43] <mark4931> so now do i restart the xserver?
[12:43] <sub[t] rnl> well, you can hand edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf like stdin said to use the new driver
[12:43] <newsense_07> ubotu is my friend
[12:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is my friend - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:44] <sub[t] rnl> or run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg from the command line
[12:44] <sub[t] rnl> to set your new driver, and resolutions
[12:44] <mark4931> ok ill try that
[12:44] <mark4931> bash: run: command not found
[12:44] <mark4931> when i ran that..
[12:45] <sub[t] rnl> start with dpkg
[12:45] <sub[t] rnl> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:45] <stdin> just the "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" bit, infact  "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh" is better
[12:45] <mark4931> oh i put run infront
[12:45] <stdin> -phigh limits it to driver and resolution questions
[12:45] <mark4931> oh ok.
[12:46] <mark4931> ill do that last one
[12:46] <sub[t] rnl> thats neat, never new that
[12:46] <sub[t] rnl> knew even
[12:46] <mark4931> laptop:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[12:46] <mark4931> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[12:46] <mark4931> hu...
[12:47] <stdin> give "sudo fuser -vik /var/cache/debconf/config.dat" a go
[12:48] <mark4931> then kill yes?
[12:48] <stdin> yep
[12:48] <mark4931> ok
[12:48] <mark4931> then that last command again?
[12:48] <stdin> yeah
[12:48] <mark4931> ok
[12:49] <mark4931> no feed back is good right?
[12:49] <mark4931> just a new line..
[12:49] <stdin> no, it should ask questions
[12:49] <mark4931> i typed "sudo fuser -vik /var/cache/debconf/config.dat"
[12:50] <mark4931> then it just made a new lime
[12:50] <mark4931> line
[12:50] <stdin> oh, yeah that's ok
[12:50] <sub[t] rnl> now run stdin's dpkg command
[12:50] <mark4931> what command?..
[12:50] <stdin> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[12:51] <mark4931> nice
[12:51] <stdin> then choose the "intel" driver and the resolutions you want to use
[12:51] <mark4931> im sure glad you guys know what your doing because i dont
[12:52] <stdin> tab/up/down/enter to navigate
[12:52] <sub[t] rnl> ncurses is purdy
[12:52] <mark4931> space to select the resolutions
[12:52] <raw__> hello, i have a question about knetworkmanager, if i can see my network, is that mean wifi card should work ? (cause when i add wpa key and launch config it block at 28%)
[12:53] <mark4931> ok i went through
[12:54] <mark4931> so now do i have to restart the xserver?
[12:54] <mark4931> mark@mark-laptop:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[12:54] <mark4931> xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[12:54] <mark4931>    file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20071006165432
[12:54] <mark4931> mark@mark-laptop:~$
[12:55] <pillowpants> does anyone here know a text based torrent program?
[12:55] <mark4931> what does that mean?
[12:56] <stdin> mark4931: just that it made a backup before saving called '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.20071006165432'
[12:56] <stdin> just logout and choose "Restart X Server" from the menu in the login screen
[12:56] <mark4931> its not keeping the ones i select
[12:57] <mark4931> ok..
[12:57] <mark4931> ill log out then back in
[12:57] <mark4931> brb
[12:59] <peter_> can anyone help with bleutooth
[12:59] <mark1982> ok
[12:59] <mark1982> lets see if it worked
[01:00] <usser> Uptime: 7 hours and 22 minutes
[01:00] <usser> hm
[01:00] <usser> i said it out loud
[01:00] <mark1982> i cant seem to find the screen resolution menu...
[01:03] <sub[t] rnl> mark1982 try running it without the -phelp options
[01:03] <intelikey> -plow even
[01:03] <atlfalcons866> how can i make the desktop switcher like gnome
[01:03] <stdin> -phigh actually
[01:03] <sub[t] rnl> err yeah
[01:03] <mark1982> ok just a sec
[01:04] <intelikey> -plow even
[01:04] <stdin> -phigh
[01:04] <mark1982> humm
[01:04] <intelikey> -plow
[01:04] <stdin> -phigh
[01:04] <intelikey> :)
[01:05] <raw__> hello, i have a question about knetworkmanager, if i can see my network, is that meaning usb wifi stick working (topcom skyracer 4001g) ? (cause when i add wpa key and launch config it block at 28%)
[01:05] <stdin> I know it's -phigh, I gave him the command :P
[01:05] <intelikey> stdin you misread me.
[01:05] <atlfalcons866> how can i make the desktop switcher like gnome
[01:06] <stdin> amdikey: oh? ;)
[01:06] <intelikey> i.e. "without the -ph*"   so  -plow even    (as insted of.)
[01:06] <Too-Sexy> allo ppl
[01:06] <stdin> ...
[01:06] <mark1982> i still cant go over 1024 x 768....
[01:06] <stdin> interesting choice of nickname
[01:07] <sub[t] rnl> hehe
[01:08] <EyesOverrun> come installo webmin?
[01:08] <stdin> !it
[01:08] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:09] <sub[t] rnl> stdin you use the intel driver?
[01:10] <stdin> yeah
[01:10] <sub[t] rnl> played around with dual monitors at all?
[01:10] <ubuntu__> can someone help me get WPA working on my ralink rt2500 wirless chipset?
[01:11] <stdin> sub[t] rnl: tried and failed
[01:11] <sub[t] rnl> same
[01:11] <clunepeople> o.o
[01:11] <clunepeople> i've never IRCd before..
[01:11] <clunepeople> I'm running of a kubuntu live CD cause i buggered up my internet connection on my installl
[01:12] <coreymon77> clunepeople: well then, welcome to irc!
[01:12] <clunepeople> thanks you :)
[01:13] <coreymon77> clunepeople: need anything.
[01:13] <coreymon77> ?
 can someone help me get WPA working on my ralink rt2500 wirless chipset? <<<<< <clunepeople>
[01:13] <clunepeople> yess
[01:14] <clunepeople> thats my probelm. I got WPA supplican't installed, tried using wifi-radar
[01:14] <clunepeople> but just fugged my install.
[01:14] <clunepeople> (Hence me being on a livecd)
[01:15] <coreymon77> oh
[01:15] <Capricori> hey all, anyone here used C# before?
[01:16] <Minataku> Capricori: We're not too fond of Microsoft things around here
[01:16] <Capricori> no, me neither, but I've gotta do it for my Uni course... just wondered if there's any way I can possibly do something useful with it
[01:17] <Minataku> There's Mono
[01:17] <Minataku> And GNU.NET
[01:17] <clunepeople> Linux FTW >_> Even though I normally use W2kPro >___)
[01:17] <Minataku> But I'd recommend doing everything in C or C++ instead then show off how much better your programs are than everyone else's
[01:17] <Minataku> XD
[01:17] <Minataku> Then again, you could make it better than C# writing it in BASIC
[01:18] <intelikey> almost in bash
[01:18] <Minataku> Or just doing all the opcodes out on paper
[01:18] <mark1934> thanks guys!
[01:18] <coreymon77> clunepeople: not for long :)
[01:18] <mark1934> i got the resolution changed
[01:18] <mark1934> i had to restart and it fixed it
[01:19] <intelikey> restart what ?
[01:20] <Capricori> Im using Mono now, just wondering if there's any point in me making programs that im actually gonna wanna to use in linux.
[01:20] <Capricori> The C# thing isn't up to me, course requirement... :(
[01:20] <Capricori> Any language especially useful for developing KDE apps? I might just learn another alongside C#, so I don't feel that my newfound programming skills are completely wasted :)
[01:20] <mark1934> i had to restart my computer
[01:20] <mark1934> after installing the drivers for my video card
[01:20] <sub[t] rnl> grats mark
[01:20] <mark1934> then it changed the resolution
[01:21] <mark1934> it was all you sub and std
[01:21] <mark1934> i didnt know what i was doing
[01:21] <intelikey> it's ok.   you'll learn.
[01:22] <mark1934> yeah i hope so
[01:22] <mark1934> i have taken a linux class but i cant remember everything i learned
[01:23] <tekteen> can someone helpme find the time of a frame in a movie?
[01:23] <tekteen> wat program
[01:23] <tekteen> ?
[01:24] <tekteen> Is anyone here?
[01:24] <intelikey> for the record, there are a few ways to restart the xserver without rebooting.  one of the favorite is the hotkeys  ctrl+alt+backspace   that's instant.   a more gentel way would be to issue    sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[01:24] <intelikey> !patience | tekteen
[01:24] <ubotu> tekteen: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:24] <intelikey> !bot | tekteen
[01:25] <ubotu> tekteen: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:25] <intelikey> tekteen as to your Q   i don't know.   so i was waiting for someone that did, to answer you.
[01:25] <tekteen> ok
[01:25] <tekteen> sorry
[01:26] <ubuntu_> hi
[01:27] <intelikey> ubuntu_
[01:27] <sub[t] rnl> tekteen: what app are you using to view the movie?
[01:27] <ubuntu_> first time :-)
[01:27] <ubuntu_> germans here ?
[01:27] <tekteen> any
[01:27] <ubuntu_> :-(
[01:27] <n8k99> ubuntu_:  !de
[01:27] <ubuntu_> i am installing kubuntu at this moment...
[01:28] <tekteen> kaffiene
[01:28] <ubuntu_> waiting and waiting
[01:28] <atlfalcons866> why are the servers slow
[01:29] <sub[t] rnl> tekteen: xine shows the time elapsed at the bottom of the controls
[01:29] <sub[t] rnl> tekteen: if thats what your looking for
[01:29] <n8k99> ubuntu_: #kubuntu-de
[01:29] <hsystem-x> have any of you installed kde 4?
[01:29] <hsystem-x> had*
[01:29] <tekteen> I am looking for the exact frame
[01:29] <n8k99> ^^^^ there's your germans
[01:29] <sub[t] rnl> ah, yeah not sure then
[01:29] <tekteen> ok
[01:29] <tekteen> thanks
[01:29] <sub[t] rnl> np
[01:29] <sub[t] rnl> sorry couldn't help more
[01:29] <intelikey> atlfalcons866 only a guess but i assume it a high traffic day.  the closer to release we get the more the last minute brush-ups seem to swamp the servers  and then after release  the servers are swamped with off-loads
[01:29] <tekteen> I am tring to cut out comercials
[01:29] <hsystem-x> !kde4
[01:30] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php
[01:30] <sub[t] rnl> ahh, nice
[01:30] <atlfalcons866> !kde2
[01:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kde2 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:30] <atlfalcons866> !kde3
[01:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kde3 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:30] <sub[t] rnl> brb
[01:30] <stdin> !kde
[01:30] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.
[01:31] <atlfalcons866> !xfs
[01:31] <ubotu> xfs is a high-performance journaling filesystem originally developped by Silicon Graphics for their IRIX OS. It is now fully supported by Linux so you can install Ubuntu on it if you wish. More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFS
[01:31] <intelikey> !ext3
[01:31] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[01:31] <atlfalcons866> !ext2
[01:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ext2 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:31] <atlfalcons866> !ext4
[01:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ext4 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:31] <stdin> !msgthebot
[01:31] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[01:32] <atlfalcons866> !reiserfs
[01:32] <ubotu> reiserfs is a journalling file system, in benchmarks it outperforms many others on I/O operations, but they take notoriously long to mount.
[01:32] <atlfalcons866> stdin: sorry
[01:34] <intelikey> i use ext2 almost exclusivly anymore   iso9660 being an exception
[01:35] <atlfalcons866> whats the universe packages?
[01:35] <intelikey> !repos | Alonea
[01:35] <ubotu> Alonea: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:35] <stdin> lots of packages
[01:35] <intelikey> ooops
[01:36] <intelikey> !repos | atlfalcons866
[01:36] <ubotu> atlfalcons866: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:36] <intelikey> sorry Alonea bad nick completion.
[01:39] <atlfalcons866> universe componets dont get security updates
[01:39] <intelikey> oh how sad
[01:45] <intelikey> i have an issue.    how to activate a monitor ?
[01:45] <intelikey> is there anything that can send the power on signal to the monitor ?
[01:47] <Mr_Sonoma> intelikey: what do you mean? the computer went into sleep/powersave mode and now the monitor ect wont come back on?
[01:48] <intelikey> Mr_Sonoma no.  the computer was started with "wakeonlan"   and the monitor is later turned on locally by another user but they can't see anything.   even changing tty's doesn't "wakeup" the monitor
[01:48] <Mr_Sonoma> hmmmm
[01:48] <intelikey> only solution for them is  ctrl+alt+del   to get the monitor to work.     which is not a good thing.
[01:49] <Mr_Sonoma> oh its a windows box?
[01:49] <intelikey> no
[01:49] <intelikey> i don't do windows.
[01:50] <atlfalcons866> will gusty gibbon have kde4
[01:50] <intelikey> not default atlfalcons866
[01:51] <Mr_Sonoma> ctrl+alt+del....hmmmm..........nevermind =) uh not sure what to tell you, im googling a bit to see what i can come up with, but if its anything like my computers have been in the past i turn the powersave features off because i've never had good luck with the "wake up events" something always seems to stay off for me
[01:52] <intelikey> Mr_Sonoma hmmm.    it could be that.   ibm box with i810 onboard vidio.  so it could be bios and the vidio card not jiving
[01:53] <Mr_Sonoma> intelikey: that has been my experiance with MOST ALL of my systems....
[01:53] <intelikey> i don't think it's any problme if the monitor was powered when the box was wakened tho.
[01:54] <scott_dennister> k, fixed xorg resolution...now onto the samba...seems I've forgotten everything i used to know :-(
[01:54] <scott_dennister> hey intellikey...long time no chat
[01:54] <intelikey> scott_dennister long time no C++
[01:54] <Mr_Sonoma> you've been luckier than i have then =)
[01:54] <scott_dennister> lol...that's funny :)
[01:56] <scott_dennister> can someone help me with samba? winblows machine can't see ubuntu samba server, but it can ping it, and the samba server can totally see/browse/write to winblows machine
[01:58] <scott_dennister> i've just rebuilt this machine for my son here, and they need the network
[01:58] <scott_dennister> and this blasted howto isn't accurate on the windows end
[02:00] <squidy> hello guys.. is anyone here using kubuntu gutsy with compiz enabled successfully?
[02:00] <morphinex> If I want my lirc kernel modules to load every time at start up, is there anything special I need to do?
[02:01] <squidy> morphinex, put the modules into the /etc/modprobe to load at the boot process..
[02:01] <Alonea> ok, made some headway with installing network-manager manually, but still have an error. Here is new pastebin: http://pastebin.ca/728437
[02:01] <squidy> morphinex, sorry.. the correct place is /etc/modules
[02:02] <morphinex> squidy: you mean /etc/modutils?
[02:03] <morphinex> squidy: oh nevermind, I see, thanks
[02:03] <squidy> morphinex, no.. /etc/modules
[02:04] <intelikey> wasn't /etc/modules depreciated ?
[02:04] <squidy> intelikey, i don't know.. i'm using it yet
[02:04] <morphinex> I was looking at the /etc/modprobe.d directory
[02:05] <intelikey> i know it still works,  just think they started using the subdir modprobe.d  or modutils[.d]   or something.
[02:06] <intelikey> seems that *buntu wants to do everything in /etc/defaults/   as well
[02:07] <squidy> what about compiz-fusion in gutsy? does anyone use it successfully?
[02:08] <Dr_willis> it works decently well here squidy
[02:08] <Dr_willis> not using it for KDE however. :)
[02:08] <scott_dennister> hey channel, i have a small problem and currently just do *not* have the time to relearn everything I used to know about samba...anyone to help?
[02:08] <intelikey> well in all accuality, it's still your os, your software, and you can set it up as you like.   that's what linux is all about.
[02:08] <squidy> i'm getting an error message when i try to execute compiz
[02:08] <squidy> i'm using kde upgraded from feisty to gutsy
[02:08] <Dr_willis> squidy,  under gutsy/gnome its there by default. might want to ask in #ubuntu+1
[02:08] <Mr_Sonoma> intelikey: i got called out to deal with babies so i havent got to follow discussions since my last line, but i found this talking about IBM Thinkpad and "wake on lan" problems, may or may not be what your looking for. http://learn.clemsonlinux.org/wiki/Laptops:IBM_Thinkpad_R31
[02:09] <scott_dennister> been here 2 days and i wanna go home! :( lol
[02:09] <squidy> Dr_willis, i know... but i'm a kde user :)
[02:09] <Dr_willis> scott_dennister,  'whats the nature of the samba emergancy' ?
[02:09] <intelikey> Mr_Sonoma no progress,  my modem reset so i took a set back as well
[02:10] <scott_dennister> Dr_willis: windows machine can't see/browse ubuntu samba server, can ping it, but ubuntu machine can see/browse/write windows well
[02:10] <Dr_willis> scott_dennister,  cover the basics? you did enable the home shares In the smb.conf? you did give the linux users samba passwords with sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME
[02:11] <scott_dennister> Dr_willis: yes, i did all that, and testparm didn't result in any errors
[02:11] <mluser-home> how do I change from gdm to kdm?
[02:11] <Dr_willis> scott_dennister,  this isent a gutsy machine is it?
[02:11] <scott_dennister> nope, this is a feisty machine i've just rebuilt for my son, scott
[02:12] <Dr_willis> sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[02:12] <mluser-home> Dr_willis: Thanks :)
[02:12] <scott_dennister> my son spilled champagne inside his box :(
[02:13] <Dr_willis> scott_dennister,   heh...   well if youve covered the basics.. not sure what to do next.
[02:14] <Dr_willis> scott_dennister,   try a live cd on the windows box and see if it can acess the shares?
[02:14] <intelikey> Mr_Sonoma that seems to all deal with etherwake problems   and that was an easy fix for me.  just had to use ethtool and add wol on     however that has nthing to do with the monitor not waking up when you turn the power on.    oh and it's not a lappy.  it's a server.
[02:15] <scott_dennister> Dr_willis: ok, i can try that...but b4 i do, how about the hosts.allow and hosts.deny sction of the samba section in kcontrol?
[02:16] <Dr_willis> scott_dennister,  never had to mess with that stuff..
[02:16] <Dr_willis> scott_dennister,  you DID install the 'samba' package? :)
[02:17] <scott_dennister> I've also forgotten how to specify a range of addresses...with the netmasks fr the network\
[02:17] <Dr_willis> scott_dennister,  on a clean install, i normally install  samba, edit the smb.conf file,. give users passwords with sudo smbpasswd -a, and thats about it..
[02:17] <Dr_willis> thats about all ive ha dto do.
[02:17] <Mr_Sonoma> intelikey: like i said i got called out so i didnt get to examine closely, my boys are being a real PIA at the moment i'll look someome and see what i find =)
[02:17] <scott_dennister> Dr_willis: yes, i did install it, or i wouldn't have the smb.conf file that testparms fine
[02:17] <Dr_willis> scott_dennister,  actually i found befor that there IS a smb.conf without installing the samba package.
[02:18] <Dr_willis> scott_dennister,  not sure where it came from. :) but i was editing it once.. to no effect..
[02:18] <scott_dennister> oh, well like i said, my samba can read/browse/write to the windows machine great
[02:18] <Dr_willis> scott_dennister,  read/browse how? with kde/gnomes file manager? it can do that without the other samba stuff installed. :)
[02:19] <scott_dennister> just can't do anything in reverse, except ping this ubuntu machine
[02:19] <Dr_willis> try a 'sudo /etc/init.d/samba start
[02:19] <hsystem-x> ok so, when you installed samba, kubuntu or ubuntu turn visible to windows machines?
[02:20] <Dr_willis> hsystem-x,  if you have samba confiogured properly. you can share directroies  to windows box's
[02:20] <scott_dennister> Dr_willis: i followed this howto after using the official documentation: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ComprehensiveSambaGuide?highlight=%28samba%29
[02:20] <scott_dennister> that howto mainly falls down on the windows side of it, the acl's & permissions
[02:21] <scott_dennister> i'm forgetting my winblows knowledge, too :P
[02:21] <hsystem-x> Dr_willis, and also fetch folders (shared ones) on windows based pcs with kubuntu using samba right?
[02:21] <Dr_willis> scott_dennister,   all ive ever had to do was a simple  edit of the smb.conf, and give users passwords.
[02:21] <intelikey> use it or loose it
[02:21] <hsystem-x> ignore the last kubuntu word....
[02:21] <Dr_willis> hsystem-x,  a windows box can access 'shares' on a linux machine. via samba on the linux box.
[02:22] <scott_dennister> intelikey: and then the kids get internet, and screw up their systems, and I have the rebuild them
[02:22] <hsystem-x> Dr_willis, and what i want to access windows shared folders from linux?
[02:22] <hsystem-x> ignoring ftp possibilities.
[02:22] <intelikey> tell them "you broke it, you fix it."
[02:22] <scott_dennister> i had to relearn some of my winblows stuff
[02:23] <hsystem-x> if*
[02:23] <Dr_willis> hsystem-x,  thats doable also.
[02:23] <hsystem-x> how? using samba too?
[02:23] <Dr_willis> or any of a dozen other samba browser tools
[02:23] <intelikey> ftpd
[02:23] <hsystem-x> ok
[02:23] <scott_dennister> intelikey: unfortunately, they need it for school, and don't have the $ for pro help...besides, it is my hobby
[02:24] <intelikey> k
[02:24] <hsystem-x> Dr_willis, if im not wrong, i can also send msg to windows OS with samba right?
[02:24] <Dr_willis> hsystem-x,  proberly..  thers some sort of messager tool.. but everyone disalbes that :)
[02:24] <intelikey> samba bcast ?
[02:25] <hsystem-x> yes, but for example, an institution or corporation, where pcs are controlled.
[02:25] <Dr_willis> !info samba-doc
[02:25] <hsystem-x> with the messenger service enable of course.
[02:25] <ubotu> samba-doc: Samba documentation. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.24-2ubuntu1.2 (feisty), package size 6754 kB, installed size 14512 kB
[02:25] <Dr_willis> the samba doc package has like 3 whole books on the topic. :)
[02:26] <intelikey> doc know anything about a monitor that wont wake up ?
[02:26] <Dr_willis> hammer?
[02:26] <scott_dennister> yeah, and i don't have the time to read one book, let alone 3
[02:26] <hsystem-x> XD
[02:26] <intelikey> lets start with a screw driver
[02:27] <intelikey> no i mean is there and app that can send a wakeup sig. to the vidio ?   like wakeonlan or etherwake do on lan ?
[02:27] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  not that i know of.
[02:28] <underdog5004> I just tried to mount a remote directory locally following this walkthrough: http://www.debuntu.org/2006/03/30/11-how-to-mount-a-remote-filesystem-using-ssh-sshfs-and-fuse Unfortunately, I can't access the dir, I can't even see the dir unless I'm root, and I'm not sure what's happened. Can anyone take a second and look at this for me?
[02:28] <intelikey> hmmm ok.     what was that app for parsing the monitor params ?
[02:28] <intelikey> it might actually send some sig's to the mon.
[02:30] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  i got 2 amigas packed.. but then the wife needed me.. :)
[02:30] <intelikey> underdog5004 there is a setting i had to disable grep for the word root in the configs.   i can't recall off hand what it was.
[02:30] <Dr_willis> i gotta figure a way to wrap up the box's so they dont say 'daimlerchrysler' on them.
[02:30] <underdog5004> intelikey, ha ha, what?
[02:30] <underdog5004> oh, nvm, I understand now
[02:31] <intelikey> underdog5004 there is a setting, which i had to disable, grep for the word "root" in the configs.   i can't recall off hand what it was.
[02:31] <intelikey> i cleaned it up some for you.
[02:31] <underdog5004> many thanks
[02:31] <intelikey> np
[02:33] <intelikey> seems like norootsquash   or something like that underdog5004
[02:33] <underdog5004> hmmm, I'm in /etc, can't find _anything_ related to fuse or sshfs...do you remember where this config file was?
[02:33] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Heehee
[02:33] <intelikey> stdin may remember
[02:34] <intelikey> when he gets up...
[02:34] <stdin> don't make me read scrollback :p
[02:34] <intelikey> what was the setting to allow normal users access in sshfs ???
[02:35] <stdin> as long as they're in the fuse group they should be able too
[02:35] <intelikey> norootsquash or something needs set   remember
[02:36] <stdin> there's '-o allow_other'
[02:36] <intelikey> i only played with that one time.   but i remember editing a config....
[02:36] <stdin> by the design of fuse only the user who mounted it can read it
[02:36] <stdin> there's also '-o allow_root'
[02:37] <intelikey> there's a config....  ;/
[02:37] <underdog5004> beautiful, lemme check that out.
[02:37] <stdin> there is /etc/fuse.conf but that's for all fuse filesystems
[02:37] <underdog5004> oh man, all I had to do was mount it w/o using sudo
[02:37] <underdog5004> I'm good.
[02:38] <underdog5004> thanks so much you guys!
[02:38] <stdin> yeah, fuse = no sudo
[02:38] <stdin> that's why it's nice :)
[02:38] <underdog5004> but also dangerous, no?
[02:38] <stdin> no
[02:38] <stdin> not really
[02:39] <underdog5004> but anyone can mount any volume...but I really haven't looked into fuse deeply (obviously)
[02:39] <intelikey> underdog5004 there is something in a config somewhere that will fix that though.  cause i have to let root mount it.  my system is nosuid   thus only root mounts anything   and i remember a setting that allowed root to mount then all users access normally.
[02:39] <stdin> it can only do thing you can already do, so it's limited by your users permissions
[02:39] <underdog5004> gotcha
[02:40] <stdin> intelikey: I'm guessing you uncommented "user_allow_other" in /etc/fuse.conf
[02:40] <intelikey> probably and there was a noroot* something too
[02:40] <intelikey> i'm sure that it had   no root   in it.
[02:40] <intelikey> thought it was in ssh tho
[02:41] <underdog5004> awesome, now I can stream movies from my server! no more 2 minute wait times. Spiderman, here I come!
[02:41] <intelikey> sshd.conf  or someplace
[02:41] <underdog5004> I love this place
[02:42] <Dr_willis> old-skool cartoons?
[02:42] <underdog5004> oh yeah
[02:42] <underdog5004> first ducktales, now spiderman...I'm really digging spiderman
[02:42] <Dr_willis> Watching CodeMonkeys right now.
[02:43] <hsystem-x> !kubuntu-offtopic
[02:43] <stdin> all legally obtained of course
[02:43] <underdog5004> of course
[02:43] <hsystem-x> use kubuntu offtopic pls for talking that....
[02:43] <Dr_willis> Codemonkeys reminds me of this channel..... :P
[02:43] <evjunior09> I have a question...is it possible to download Real Player?
[02:44] <Dr_willis> !real
[02:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:44] <Dr_willis> evjunior09,  i belive so.. but last i recall - it dide3nt work too good.
[02:44] <stdin> evjunior09: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealPlayerInstallationMethods
[02:44] <the_hammer> is there kubuntu gutsy
[02:44] <Dr_willis> the_hammer,  yes.
[02:45] <the_hammer> fusion compiz?
[02:45] <Dr_willis> thats not in kubuntu by default.
[02:45] <the_hammer> but available tho right?
[02:45] <nosrednaekim> the_hammer: yeah
[02:45] <Dr_willis> yes. its avilable.. no idea if it works well.. :)
[02:45] <the_hammer> cool gotta link?
[02:45] <nosrednaekim> Dr_willis: scratch that...put it in the channel topic ;)
[02:46] <nosrednaekim> it works very well
[02:46] <stdin> !gutsy
[02:46] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[02:46] <Dr_willis> kubuntu-restricted-extras - Commonly used restricted package
[02:46] <scott_dennister> k, simpler question: to specify a range of addresses, the syntax is just: 192.168.254.100/110, right?
[02:47] <ws> can somebody help me with the kubuntu application bar... it disappeared, and i do not know why
[02:47] <ws> i mean the bar belo, with the start menu
[02:47] <stdin> !away > sub[t] rnl, I hate away messages, really hate them
[02:48] <sub[t] rnl> 10 4 stdin
[02:48] <the_hammer> i see ubuntu not kubuntu?
[02:48] <Dr_willis> keep looking? :)
[02:48] <Dr_willis> or google for kubuntu gutsy
[02:48] <stdin> the_hammer: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/gutsy/
[02:48] <ws> i already restored ~/.kde/share/config/kdesktoprc, but it did not help :(
[02:49] <sub[t] rnl> ws: so your kicker bar isn't running?
[02:49] <ws> sub: what is the kicker bar exactly?
[02:49] <the_hammer> stdin and ya got compiz fusion working in it?
[02:49] <sub[t] rnl> its the default toolbar used with kde
[02:49] <stdin> the_hammer: yeah, but I don't use it much
[02:49] <sub[t] rnl> try alt+f2 then "kicker"
[02:50] <sub[t] rnl> see if its up
[02:50] <the_hammer> works good tho right
[02:50] <stdin> the_hammer: works fine
[02:50] <the_hammer> ok im gonna try it out already d/l thanks man
[02:50] <james_xxx> i just borked my system during am upgrade to gutsy-beta.... would a fresh install of gutsy-beta likely be usable?
[02:50] <ws> i suppose kicker runs: ps -->
[02:51] <stdin> james_xxx: maybe, but #ubuntu+1 is gutsy support
[02:51] <ws> ws        5646     1  0 02:44 ?        00:00:01 kicker [kdeinit] 
[02:51] <ws> ws        5653  5621  0 02:44 ?        00:00:00 kio_system [kdeinit]  system /tmp/ksocket-ws/klauncher0hguvb.slave-socket /tmp/ksocket-ws/kickerUlv2ua.slave-socket
[02:51] <ws> ws        5998  5688  0 02:50 pts/3    00:00:00 grep -i kicker
[02:51] <stdin> !paste | ws
[02:51] <ubotu> ws: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:52] <ws> i was only pasting 3 lines... but ok
[02:52] <ws> i can not see the kicker bar
[02:52] <stdin> it's probably hidden
[02:52] <ws> ALT-F2 kicker dose not change anything
[02:53] <ws> does
[02:54] <sub[t] rnl> try deleting kickerrc in ~/.kde/share/config
[02:54] <ws> i also moved .kde/share/config/kdesktoprc  away, and let the OS recreate it... but it did not help :(
[02:54] <stdin> ws: try Alt-F2 and put in "kcontrol" then go to Desktop > Panels and disable hiding
[02:55] <ws> stdin: thank you so much!!!
[02:56] <stdin> guess that worked then :)
[02:56] <ws> i still do not know how i came into this situation...
[02:56] <sub[t] rnl> hehe
[02:56] <ws> yes.... it worked perfectly :)
[02:57] <ws> after comparing config files for an hour and searching in the net
[02:57] <stdin> even KDE devs get lost in config files, that's why they invented GUIs
[02:57] <sub[t] rnl> nothing wrong with putting forth the effort to resolve it yourself
[02:58] <ws> but what's still unclear for me is...
[02:58] <stdin> panel hiding was never perfect, sometimes it doesn't want to come back
[02:58] <ws> i re-activated "hide automaically", but now the panel appears when i move over it with the mouse, like expected. and unlike before.
[02:59] <ws> ok...
[02:59] <ws> a big thanks again :)
[02:59] <stdin> yw :)
[03:00] <ws> and i will remember kcontrol for the next time :)
[03:00] <ws> good night
[03:11] <twylight> you
[03:11] <twylight> you peoples
[03:11] <twylight> I require help with java/firefox intergration
[03:13] <crimsun> a bit more detail would be nice...
[03:14] <hsystem-x> !jre
[03:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jre - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:14] <twylight> right
[03:14] <hsystem-x> !java
[03:14] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[03:14] <twylight> basically, I want to play runescape (trust me I'm bored)
[03:14] <antsurea> hola
[03:14] <stdin> so read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[03:14] <hsystem-x> try, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[03:14] <stdin> !es | antsurea
[03:14] <ubotu> antsurea: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:15] <antsurea> alguien q hable espaolll?
[03:15] <twylight> !language | twylight
[03:18] <antsurea> holaa
[03:19] <stdin> !es | antsurea
[03:19] <ubotu> antsurea: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:19] <twylight> I still get the "error loading applet" error
[03:30] <twylight> netsplit
[03:30] <twylight> zomg
[03:31] <antsurea> como hago para reproducir archivos wmv?
[03:31] <Mr_Sonoma> !es | antsurea
[03:31] <ubotu> antsurea: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:35] <HealthyElija2> anyone here use Linux MCE?
[03:40] <n8k99> ok, so i'd like konqueror  to just open weblinks from other applications instead of downloading the document into /var
[03:40] <n8k99> how do i make that stop?
[03:40] <NickPresta> HealthyElija1, LinuxMCE is comparable to Windows Media Center + some enhancements?
[03:46] <Greenery> how do i hide mounted ntfs devices from the desktop?
[03:48] <Les_Caesars> is there a way that I can remap one of my keys, to work like a different one?
[03:49] <intelikey> Greenery right click the desktop configure it.   it's in the show devices section
[03:49] <intelikey> or device icons section
[03:49] <Mr_Sonoma> Les_Caesars: i think you may be looking for the hotkeys package
[03:49] <Les_Caesars> my "ergonomic" keyboard has only one start menu button, and it's unfortunately on the left. This makes keyboard shortcuts hell on my left hand, which has carpal tunnel.
[03:50] <Les_Caesars> Mr_Sonoma: oh? do tell
[03:50] <Mr_Sonoma> !hotkeys | Les_Caesars
[03:50] <ubotu> Les_Caesars: keyboard shortcuts can be set in K -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse. Try also "Input Actions" in KControl. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys - See !Keyboard for changing layouts
[03:50] <Les_Caesars> Mr_Sonoma: thank you
[03:50] <Mr_Sonoma> np
[03:51] <Greenery> i check the device icons section, it is unticked already but the mounted hard disk volume still shows up
[03:52] <intelikey> so mounted partitions is set to not show but shows anyway   wierd bug
[03:59] <Corleone> Simple question.  Is there any way to make the Live CD run from a bootable USB Flash drive?
[03:59] <intelikey> install it ?
[03:59] <Dr_willis> Corleone,  i hear its installable to usb drives.
[03:59] <Dr_willis> but never done so.
[03:59] <stdin> !install
[03:59] <Dr_willis> some tweaks may be needed to get it working right also.
[03:59] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[04:00] <Corleone> No, I don't want to install TO a USB drive.  I want to take the ISO and make the USB device be the Live/installer CD I can use to install from.
[04:00] <Dr_willis> Hmm..
[04:00] <Dr_willis> so you want the  usb drive to basicially boot IDENTICIALLY to the  live cd?
[04:00] <intelikey> and with a little twiddeling one could put the iso on the flash drive, and get it to run    i'm not up for walking anyone through that tho
[04:01] <Dr_willis> That  http://tinyurl.com/3exghs   seems to be doing that intelikey  I think.. :
[04:01] <Corleone> Right.  I want to extract the ISO to a flash drive instead of to a CD.
[04:02] <intelikey>                    ^
[04:02] <Dr_willis> check that URL  - see if they are doing what you want.
[04:02] <Corleone> Well, my PC has the option to boot from USB, though I think it's expecting a USB hard drive or CD in that case.
[04:02] <Dr_willis> Looks like a nifty trick
[04:02] <Corleone> Yeah, got that bookmarke for a close read later.
[04:03] <Dr_willis> not exactly what you want however...
[04:03] <Corleone> If it's easy, I got a 1G flash drive I could use.  REally I only wanna use that cuz I'm outa blank discs tho.
[04:03] <Corleone> So if it's a big project, then I'll just break down and get some more recordables.  Flash drives have me spoiled now tho.  Hard to commit to 1-use media.
[04:03] <Dr_willis> i wonder what would happen if you installed the installer on a installed system.. then ran it..
[04:04] <Dr_willis> BeOS ages ago could actually 'install' itself to a 2nd hd on the same system. :) ya then took that hd to a new machine.
[04:04] <Corleone> That's another option.  I can mount the CD easy enough in Windows, just not sure if Kubuntu will support installing that way.
[04:04] <Dr_willis> Corleone,  THATS what that url is describing exactly... :)
[04:05] <Dr_willis>  making windows/grub load/boot the iso file from the C:
[04:05] <Corleone> Yeah, I'll have to check that out later.  Too tired to do serious resarch right now tho.
[04:05] <intelikey> Dr_willis heh  why not dd or tar to just copy over to the other drive ???
[04:05] <Corleone> In my case, I boot XP/Vista with a custom Grub loader, so I'm not sure even TRYING to load linux is a good idea.
[04:05] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  ask the BeOs guys. :)
[04:05] <intelikey> pfft   ;/
[04:06] <Dr_willis> Corleone,  if you are allready yusing grub thats even easier...
[04:06] <Dr_willis> well from, what i read on that site.. You just copy some files from the iso to C:\ and the iso file there. then add a entry to the grub menu
[04:06] <Corleone> Well, it's a customized automated grub.  Sets a buncha pre-boot variables, then immediately dumps you to the XP-style OS loader.
[04:06] <n8k99> my konqueror is hosed.
[04:07] <Corleone> I never get to a grub menu in any interactive way.  It's supposed to be a transparent startup that runs before the XP/Vista loader runs, in order to define a few things before that loader gets started.
[04:07] <n8k99> how do i get it to open links from other applications as webpages instead of downloading the documnent to  /var/tmp/
[04:07] <ubuntu> opa
[04:07] <ubuntu> :d
[04:08] <Dr_willis> intelikey is such a leet haxor.
[04:08] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:08] <Corleone> I dunno, only 4 minutes to go on the download.  I'll play around with it a little.
[04:08] <n8k99> any ideas?
[04:08] <intelikey> Dr_willis hat kleest spell it rite,   l33t
[04:09] <Dr_willis> Been watching a CodeMonkeys marathon all day... I can imagine all the irc people on here.. being like the Pixlated people in the show...
[04:09] <Corleone> Love Linux, but play too many WIndows games to commit to it.  Though I do like to shake the etch-a-sketch up now and then and see what the newest and greatest in open source has to offer.
[04:09] <Dr_willis> I built a new box just for games.. and rarely play them :)
[04:09] <Dr_willis> been none worth playing lately
[04:09] <intelikey> n8k99 i don't even understand the question    sorry.
[04:09] <Corleone> I got a quad-boot right now.
[04:10] <Corleone> XP 32+64 bit and Vista 32/64
[04:10] <n8k99> intelikey: ok- you know your are in kmail, get an email with a link and click on it, right
[04:10] <intelikey> n8k99 no.  i don't do email
[04:11] <Corleone> Anybody tried ReactOS?  It's basically an open-source OS based off the NT software that MS released as open-source.
[04:11] <intelikey> n8k99 but i sujest "right-click"  and tell it what you want to do
[04:11] <Corleone> It's basically and open-source. free version of XP.
[04:11] <Corleone> At least that's the hype.  It's still in what they call "alpha'
[04:11] <Dr_willis> Corleone,  last i tried it.. it booted.. then crashed.. :)
[04:11] <n8k99> intelikey: doesn't matter, click or right-click > Open URL , konqueror downloads the document into /var/tmp/
[04:12] <Dr_willis> hmm.. wonder how to do a netboot install of ubuntu
[04:12] <Dr_willis> !install
[04:12] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[04:12] <Corleone> Was that a while ago, DR or recently?
[04:12] <Dr_willis> 6 mo.
[04:12] <n8k99> intelikey: and see those links right there ^^^^, does the same thing with those
[04:12] <Corleone> I'll have to take another look.  It might just be a hard-ware specific thing.
[04:12] <intelikey> n8k99 it's not like konq wants to parse the malbox file for the info.  if it's a url then just highlight it and paste it into konq's address bar
[04:13] <Corleone> I had 2 distros I tried, the latest Mandriva and the Latest Kubuntu at the time.  Kubuntu went in and worked just fine.
[04:13] <Corleone> Mandriva wouldn't even get thru the grub-load...
[04:13] <n8k99> yes, that is terribly annoying when its not the desired behavior & was the former behavior
[04:13] <n8k99> might as well be using GNOME in that case
[04:14] <Corleone> I was actually a SImply Mepis fan back then.  It went in much like Kubuntu, but it had a lot more useful bells and whistles.  Kubuntu was a little stripped-down in comparison.
[04:14] <Corleone> From what I was reading today tho, Mepis isn't doing too well.
[04:14] <nosrednaekim> hmmm
[04:15] <Dr_willis> Corleone,  they sort of lost their focus and keep changing things around..
[04:15] <Corleone> \
[04:15] <Corleone> Yeah, that's the basic gyst of what I read.
[04:15] <Dr_willis> plus mepis dosent really offer that much different from ubuntu,  a few nifty tools last i tried it.
[04:15] <tokorona> *Kubuntu
[04:15] <Dr_willis> then they tried to use ubuntu, then got mad.  so went back..
[04:15] <nosrednaekim> yeah... I was looking at kliklos...
[04:15] <tokorona> .. grr, how do I not spell that?
[04:15] <Corleone> Well I'm talkin' about a few years ago, back when the LiveCD concept was just catchin' on.
[04:15] <nosrednaekim> which seems to be pretty nice
[04:15] <Dr_willis> DSL-N is worth having in ya pc tool box. :) and Puppylinux, and FeatherLinux
[04:16] <nosrednaekim> and Kubuntu ;)
[04:16] <Corleone> Back then Kubuntu was pretty lean.  I dunno what the latest build looks lik.
[04:16] <tokorona> Anywy, I wnt from DSL-N to SuSE (never installed) to Fedora (ditto) to Ubuntu (again, failed to install) to Kubuntu
[04:16] <tokorona> DSL-N.. er.. well. I Tried making it a going OS.
[04:16] <tokorona> Involves ripping it';s guts out and trying to make it a debian system - good luck with that.
[04:17] <Corleone> Well, looks like my download's done.  Thx for your help.  Wish me luck...  :)
[04:17] <nosrednaekim> Corleone: gutsy?
[04:17] <Corleone> Yeah.
[04:17] <Corleone> I can deal with a few beta blips here and there.
[04:17] <tokorona> Gutsy's nice so far. Some issues with KDM theme manager, and ndiswrapper, but nothing overly critical
[04:18] <nosrednaekim> Corleone: yeah..its pretty good, compiz integreation is better too if you have an ATI
[04:18] <Corleone> Well, lemme get this flash-drive thing worked out first...  Okay, I'm out.  Thx again.
[04:18] <nosrednaekim> flash drive?
[04:19] <intelikey> "overly critical"  :)
[04:19] <nosrednaekim> yo installing to a flash drive?
[04:19] <videoeddie> how doo i down load pictures
[04:19] <tokorona> well, ndiswrapper is how i connect to the internet, soo.
[04:19] <nosrednaekim> videoeddie: of what?
[04:19] <intelikey> videoeddie from where ?
[04:20] <videoeddie> pictures of my daughter
[04:20] <videoeddie> to a sidick
[04:21] <intelikey> videoeddie download from where ?     just drag and drop them.
[04:21] <videoeddie> yoooooooooooooooooooo how do i down load pictures of my daughter to her sidicjk
[04:22] <intelikey> syntax error.
[04:22] <intelikey> you no will to engrish ?
[04:27] <Greenery> i think he meant CD
[04:27] <nosrednaekim> I thought he meant sidekick
[04:28] <Dr_willis> I did to. :)
[04:28] <intelikey> still doesn't answer the question "where are the stupid files now???"    ;/
[04:28] <Dr_willis> engrish.com
[04:29] <Les_Caesars> The history on my kickoff menu acts like the history limit on "recent applications" is 0. Does anyone know where I can fix this?
[04:29] <intelikey> download normally implies that the data is not local    no?
[04:29] <intelikey> maybe he meant upload to sidekick   ?
[04:30] <Greenery> haha
[04:30] <stdin> intelikey: not for some people, I often have to "download" files to a CD for my dad
[04:30] <intelikey> lol
[04:30] <n8k99> i fixed it, thanks for all the fish
[04:31] <videoeddie> intelikey: who u think u talking to nigga this is nicole bitch
[04:31] <n8k99> !language
[04:31] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:31] <stdin> too late
[04:31] <intelikey> oh hello "nicole bitch"  who ever you are...
[04:32] <n8k99> thanks stdin
[04:32] <stdin> I was poised ;)
[04:32] <stdin> could feel it in me bones
[04:34] <Les_Caesars> does anyone know where to configure?
[04:34] <Les_Caesars> kickoff, that is
[04:35] <intelikey> right click on it ?   or   in it's menu's ?    maybe  kcontrol even ?       i don't even know what kickoff is.
[04:35] <intelikey> !info kickoff
[04:36] <ubotu> Package kickoff does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[04:36] <intelikey> Les_Caesars if none of the above ask in  #kde  maybe
[04:36] <Les_Caesars> intelikey: am trying
[04:37] <intelikey> kickoff not being in the repos,  it's a sinch that we don't support it...
[04:38] <intelikey> yuch,   i said "we"
[04:38] <NickPresta> !info kicker-kickoff
[04:38] <ubotu> Package kicker-kickoff does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[04:38] <NickPresta> oh, trevino.
[04:39] <hsystem-x> lol upgrading to gutsy .... it will take so long......
[04:43] <naught101> anyone know what the command for the run dialogue is?
[04:43] <naught101> so I can run it from console
[04:43] <robotgeek> naught101: doesn't alt + f2 work?
[04:43] <robotgeek> naught101: if not, why not just run your command in the console?
[04:43] <naught101> robotgeek: not at the moment
[04:43] <Dr_willis> !info bbrun
[04:43] <ubotu> bbrun: An elegant tool for the Blackbox window manager that runs commands. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6-3 (feisty), package size 16 kB, installed size 100 kB
[04:43] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:44] <naught101> because I want alt+F2 to work...
[04:44] <Dr_willis> not sure what the kde equiliv is.
[04:44] <Dr_willis> !info fbrun
[04:44] <ubotu> Package fbrun does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[04:44] <naught101> yeah, I'd prefer to know what the k one is
[04:44] <gemini> !language
[04:44] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:44] <Dr_willis> Im not sure it even IS a specific command naught101
[04:44] <Dr_willis> the #kde guys may know.
[04:45] <naught101> yeah
[04:45] <Tomi-idle> Family is important. Family with KDE
[04:45] <killermach> I hibernated kubuntu gutsy, and later booted backup. but now my usb mouse doesn't respond
[04:45] <Tomi-idle> Anybody else converted their parents/friends to kubuntu?
[04:45] <naught101> Tomi-idle: yeah
[04:45] <killermach> what command do I enter to have the mouse redetected
[04:45] <killermach> ?
[04:46] <robotgeek> naught101: ksystraycmd
[04:46] <Agent_bob> Tomi-idle no.  but to linux yes.
[04:46] <Tomi-idle> naught101: i've had less problems to answer problems nowadays than i did before... maybe once a month there's problems.
[04:46] <naught101> robotgeek: thanks
[04:46] <robotgeek> naught101: but i dont think it runs from the cli :(
[04:47] <naught101> no...
[04:47] <naught101> damn
[04:47] <Agent_bob> killermach usb mouse ?  unplug it and replug ?
[04:47] <killermach> Agent_bob:  yep.. and even into the other usb ports.. also notice that there is no redlight on when I plug it in
[04:48] <naught101> then how would I find out why it isn't working, considering that the kmenu link doesn't work, and the key combination is set correctly??
[04:48] <killermach> Agent_bob: kinda like the USB didn't re-engage when hibernate resumed
[04:48] <killermach> lemme tail dmesg while I unplug/plug it again
[04:48] <Agent_bob> killermach   /etc/init.d/usb* restart
[04:48] <robotgeek> naught101: have you checked you keyboard shortcuts to see if it is mapped correctly?
[04:48] <sub[t] rnl> any recommended .avi to dvd burning programs?
[04:48] <sub[t] rnl> k3b is being a pain
[04:49] <naught101> robotgeek: yes, it's set correctly for my user AND root.
[04:49] <Agent_bob> ah killermach i think you can find info on this in the bug reports as wellas the forums
[04:49] <robotgeek> naught101: root?
[04:49] <naught101> as in, kde setting> root password> set options
[04:49] <Agent_bob> killermach seems that others beet you to that one.
[04:49] <killermach> Agent_bob: no logs generated in /var/log/dmesg or /var/log/messages when replug USB mouse
[04:50] <robotgeek> naught101: i dont follow, where exactly is that setting?
[04:50] <naught101> think I might try Alt+Ctrl+backspace
[04:50] <killermach> Agent_bob: It's no big deal that it didn't restore, I thought I'd take moment to learn how to "HUP" USB
[04:50] <naught101> robotgeek: when you go into the kcontrol in root mode
[04:51] <naught101> back in a bit
[04:51] <Agent_bob> killermach you can yank it's module and reinsert it    :)))
[04:51] <Agent_bob> killermach that's a   sudo modprobe   command
[04:51] <killermach> Agent_bob:  only have /etc/init.d/usplash  no other us* files there
[04:51] <killermach> doing lsmod now
[04:52] <naught101> oh well, working now
[04:52] <Agent_bob> all for naught.*
[04:53] <stdin> naught101: well, it "dcop kdesktop KDesktopIface popupExecuteCommand" just so you know :p
[04:53] <naught101> thanks stdin. I'm sure I will have forgotten that by the next time I need it ;)
[04:54] <killermach> nope.. modprobe usbhid, and rmmod usbhid/modprobe usbhid.. no go
[04:54] <stdin> naught101: I had to search for that, so you will remember it (non-optional) :p
[04:54] <stdin> stupid command for it tho
[04:54] <naught101> :D
[04:54] <naught101> I WILL remember at least that it's a dcop command
[04:55] <stdin> dcop and kdesktop, then you'll find it again (if you ever need it)
[04:58] <ardchoille> stdin: I typed in  "dcop kdesktop KDesktopIface " and hit the tab key twice and got a nice list of stuff
[04:58] <ardchoille> I'm really beginning to like dcop
[04:59] <stdin> ardchoille: yeah, dcop is nice. you can even use kdcop for a GUI :)
[04:59] <ardchoille> nice
[04:59] <intelikey> nicer and nicer still...
[05:01] <ghozala> hay how can i mount fat 32 disk
[05:01] <stdin> !mount
[05:01] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[05:01] <intelikey> sudo mount /dev/<blah> /<mount_point>
[05:01] <ardchoille> ghozala:  sudo mount -t vfat /dev/device /mount/point
[05:02] <intelikey> type is not needed
[05:02] <ardchoille> oh, ok
[05:02] <intelikey> wont hurt tho
[05:02] <ardchoille> habit
[05:02] <intelikey> it's my habbit to never add type unless it's cramfs or a loop device and has to have it.
[05:03] <ardchoille> I had a data cd that would never mount unless I added -t iso9660
[05:04] <ghozala> hay i want to mount a fat32 partion where is the app res
[05:04] <intelikey> probably because you had a udf type in the fstab file   or something like that...
[05:05] <intelikey> ghozala   sudo mount /dev/<blah> /<mount_point>
[05:05] <intelikey> konsole command  ^
[05:05] <intelikey> translate what's within  <>
[05:06] <intelikey> blah might be something like  hdb3   or sda1    and mount_point   something like   ~/my.disk/   or  /media/hda   or even  /mnt
[05:06] <pillowpants> what do i do about my login screen being ginormous and scrollable
[05:07] <hsystem-x> ignore it XD.
[05:08] <pillowpants> hsystem-x : i have been, but its been getting on my nerves
[05:08] <intelikey> pillowpants use gdm in place of kdm ?   heh.   or correct the settings for the kdm   or  fix your  xorg.conf   i.e. remove the vertual size
[05:08] <hsystem-x> haha
[05:09] <intelikey> what you are seeing is the "vertual size" is much larger than the actual size.
[05:10] <hsystem-x> intelikey, maybe if you guide him exactly, to change the setting, would be much easier for yo uand for him...
[05:10] <hsystem-x> you and*
[05:11] <pillowpants> intelikey : yeah
[05:11] <pillowpants> i just google the issue and look it up
[05:11] <intelikey> hsystem-x no.  because if he has multi-head setup then he needs the vertual setting.  so it's kinda a smorgage board fix    take what you like.
[05:11] <pillowpants> bound to have happened before
[05:11] <peter_> can anyone help me with bluetooth ?
[05:12] <hsystem-x> can you explain what you want to do with bluetooth..
[05:12] <pillowpants> thanks
[05:12] <intelikey> pillowpants if not dual-head  then find the line in /etc/X11/xorg.conf that says  vertu*   and comment it out.
[05:13] <intelikey> ooops gone.
[05:29] <superbenny> hey...i just upgraded from 7.04 to 7.10...and now my wireless isnt working. when i restarted, a little box came up andsaid something about restricted drivers...
[05:29] <superbenny> knetworkmanager isnt finding either my wired interface or my wireless
[05:30] <Les_Caesars> does -anyone- know how to configure kickoff?
[05:30] <Les_Caesars> anyone at all?
[05:30] <Les_Caesars> even a guess?
[05:31] <Mr_Sonoma> superbenny: according to the topic -- Gutsy help _only_ in #ubuntu+1 Gutsy is 7.10 its a beta release atm
[05:32] <Mr_Sonoma> Les_Caesars: have you read the man (i havent used kickoff so no i dont know) you may want to try typing into a konsole window: man kickoff
[05:33] <Les_Caesars> Mr_Sonoma: No manual entry for kickoff.
[05:33] <Les_Caesars> darn
[05:33] <Mr_Sonoma> hmmm
[05:33] <Mr_Sonoma> not sure what to tell ya then
[05:34] <superbenny> oh sry
[05:36] <twylight> how do I clear all history of an application
[05:36] <twylight> I screwed up the settings in secondlife once and now it crashes no matter what I do
[05:36] <tazgodx> what is the terminal command to find out your internal IP?
[05:36] <twylight> so I figure I have to clear the app settings
[05:36] <NickPresta> Les_Caesars, what do you want to configure about kickoff?
[05:37] <Les_Caesars> NickPresta: The history limit, for my Recent Applications
[05:37] <Les_Caesars> right now, it's 0
[05:38] <se7en^Of^9> tazgodx: ifconfig
[05:38] <bazhang> 10/18!
[05:39] <twylight> how do I update my opengl drivers
[05:39] <tazgodx> ty se7en^Of^9
[05:42] <Les_Caesars> NickPresta: so any ideas?
[05:42] <NickPresta> Les_Caesars, I'm playing around with it. No idea yet.
[05:42] <vbgunz> I lost my multiple desktop applet, it is not in the applet list, how do I get it back?
[05:43] <savetheWorld> vbgunz: right click on the toolbar, see if you get some menus
[05:44] <vbgunz> yeah, I checked the applet dialog, I do not see it in there :/
[05:48] <twylight> who in here plays SL?
[05:49] <NickPresta> it would be really nice to know where my System Tray went. It disappeared and event though I readd it from the applet menu, it doesn't show up
[05:51] <twylight> will someone help me please
[05:52] <tokorona> SL?
[05:52] <twylight> yeah, the alpha client
[05:52] <bazhang> NickPresta: tons of people are having that happen
[05:52] <twylight> it crashed as I was logging in to my account, now it crashes every time
[05:52] <twylight> it DID work before
[05:52] <twylight> so there's nothing wrong with my drivers
[05:53] <twylight> secondlife
[05:53] <tokorona> ah..
[05:53] <Les_Caesars> hm...
[05:53] <NickPresta> bazhang, and what seems to be the problem?
[05:54] <twylight> is there a way to delete everything that kubuntu knows about a program?
[05:55] <killer_> here is an odd one.. I have a friend who just asked me for an app that will translate this phrase, "Close watertight doors" into as many languages as possible at one time..
[05:55] <killer_> I thought one of you super bright people might help him out
[05:56] <bazhang> disappearing menu bar items, panel, etc.
[05:57] <NickPresta> bazhang, fixed by starting a new session instead of loading my previous one. >_>
[05:57] <bazhang> NickPresta: thanks! I'll remember that!
[05:59] <twylight> is there a way to delete everything that kubuntu knows about a program?
[06:00] <NickPresta> twylight, most of the time, you can delete the associated files in your home directory
[06:00] <twylight> I've done that and it's done nothing
[06:00] <NickPresta> twylight, check for the default configuration files too. /etc/app/config is usually where they are, I believe
[06:02] <twylight> fucking SL crashes even with wine emulation
[06:02] <stdin> !language | twylight
[06:02] <ubotu> twylight: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:02] <twylight> sorry for the language but I've been getting this thing to do nothing but crash for hours
[06:02] <NickPresta> twylight, SL?
[06:02] <twylight> secondlife
[06:03] <bazhang> second life is notoriously unstable--even on windows or mac.
[06:03] <se7en^Of^9> does anybody know how to install www.citadel.org on a web server ...
[06:03] <tazgodx> umm, i haave my computer set up. but nwo im adding a couple more HDDs, and i have them formatted for an LVM, but how can i set up the LVM to be a certain folder, as in /home?
[06:04] <NickPresta> twylight, http://secondlife.com/community/linux-alpha.php doesn't work?
[06:04] <wers> my Wicd tray icon is invisible. any ideas?
[06:04] <NickPresta> se7en^Of^9, what do you mean install www.citadel.org on a webserver?
[06:04] <the_hammer> hey all anyone here have compiz fusion installed?
[06:04] <twylight> it crashes every time I try to log in
[06:04] <NickPresta> !ask | the_hammer
[06:04] <ubotu> the_hammer: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:05] <se7en^Of^9> NickPresta: i need to run citadel on a web server
[06:05] <the_hammer> im wondering what all it needs
[06:05] <twylight> shouldn't it tell you in the dependencies?
[06:05] <the_hammer> i installed it have a manager thing but not sure how to turn the actual compiz-fusion on
[06:05] <NickPresta> se7en^Of^9, the citadel.org has an installation entry in it's Knowledge Base
[06:05] <twylight> in konsole "compiz-fusion"
[06:06] <the_hammer> advanced desktop effects settings is installed
[06:06] <the_hammer> hammer@Lenovo:~$ compiz-fusion
[06:06] <the_hammer> bash: compiz-fusion: command not found
[06:06] <twylight> well that don't work
[06:06] <the_hammer> i must be missing something
[06:06] <the_hammer> just dunno what
[06:06] <twylight> try sudo apt-get install compiz-fusion
[06:06] <twylight> see if that does anything interesting
[06:07] <twylight> anyways can anyone help me with my secondlife problem
[06:07] <the_hammer> Reading state information... Done
[06:07] <the_hammer> E: Couldn't find package compiz-fusion
[06:07] <twylight> that's great
[06:07] <twylight> so you just want the 3d desktop effects right?
[06:07] <the_hammer> meanwhile it showed in synaptic and i installed everything
[06:07] <the_hammer> the whole thing of it
[06:08] <twylight> go for beryl
[06:08] <the_hammer> seen a demo vid with fishies going in the cube
[06:08] <the_hammer> and all kinds of stuff
[06:08] <the_hammer> naa i have beryl on another drive it isnt the same
[06:08] <twylight> !compiz-fusion
[06:08] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:08] <the_hammer> stuff i seen for compiz-fusion makes beryl look old school
[06:09] <tazgodx> compiz-fusion is the merger of beryl and compiz
[06:09] <underdog5004> the_hammer, not really...imho
[06:09] <twylight> frigging secondlife is failing hard
[06:09] <the_hammer> beryl cant do the snow effects and the fishies in the cube
[06:10] <underdog5004> so...why not got explore first life?
[06:10] <NickPresta> the_hammer, I understand what you mean, but Beryl can do the snow effects ;)
[06:10] <twylight> I mean it's not running
[06:10] <underdog5004> the_hammer, beryl can do snow...not sure about fishies
[06:10] <twylight> and I don't see why anyone would want to pollute their desktop with such an app
[06:10] <NickPresta> well, #kubuntu, I'm off to bed. Goodnight all.
[06:11] <the_hammer> ill find the vid and ill show u what i mean about the fish
[06:11] <underdog5004> twylight, second life or first life?
[06:11] <twylight> secondlife
[06:11] <underdog5004> twylight, agreed
[06:11] <twylight> obviously my first life sucks pretty bad
[06:11] <underdog5004> the_hammer, I think that's only proof of concept...
[06:11] <twylight> hypothesis: all linux apps are unstable if not constantly updated
[06:12] <twylight> experiment: attempt to log into secondlife
[06:12] <twylight> hypothesis proven.
[06:12] <twylight> and such
[06:12] <twylight> I just want my secondlife
[06:12] <twylight> I have people waiting
[06:12] <underdog5004> I just want to level up in my first life...way more reqarding...too bad I can't powerlevel...
[06:12] <underdog5004> erm, not reqarding...rewarding
[06:15] <underdog5004> she!?!?!
[06:15] <underdog5004> just kidding, twylight
[06:18] <tazgodx> is there a command to list my HDDs and list the partitions?
[06:19] <underdog5004> tazgodx, sudo fdisk -l
[06:20] <tazgodx> hmm, isn't sda supposed to be sata?
[06:20] <twylight> test firing secondlife; no modifications to the graphical settings
[06:20] <twylight> THIS IS SATA!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:21] <savetheWorld> tonight you dine in IDE.
[06:21] <underdog5004> tazgodx, yeah, but with edgy(?) on up, ubuntu uses scsi emulation for ide drives...I think that's right anyway
[06:21] <tazgodx> just curious cause my HDDs names are sda1 and sda2. and i have 2 IDE
[06:21] <twylight> this is blasphemy! this is windows!
[06:21] <tazgodx> ok, thanks underdog5004
[06:22] <underdog5004> np
[06:28] <wsjunior> using fglrx driver im able to use X but all tty's goes black, is there any way to fix it?
[06:28] <wsjunior> i used to set vga=791 to fix this problem but it seems it doesnt work anymore :(
[06:30] <tazgodx> ok, so im looking for a good LVM howto guide so i can set up an LVM, but haven't found one yet. anyone have a good one?
[06:32] <bazhang> http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_lvm
[06:35] <killer_> twylight: your second life is coming.. to get there the logical thing would be to be born again, hmm
[06:35] <tazgodx> thanks bazhang this is better than what i was reading
[06:35] <twylight> heh
[06:35] <twylight> no
[06:35] <bazhang> sure tazgodx
[06:35] <bazhang> google is your friend..haha
[06:37] <tazgodx> yeah i was searching google, guess you have better search terms
[06:38] <bazhang> lvm +guide +how to
[06:39] <tazgodx> haha, much better than mine
[06:45] <the_hammer> who here said beryl can do snow effects?
[06:47] <twylight> everyone
[06:47] <twylight> I need a smoke
[06:48] <the_hammer> that was interesting
[06:49] <the_hammer> wtf happened
[06:49] <navets> where can I find help with C-Shell
[06:50] <twylight> also, (off topic) I am aroused by my girlfriend's lack of clothing
[06:50] <the_hammer> in the ocean theres lots of shells there
[06:50] <navets> twylight: me 2
[06:50] <the_hammer> thats funny i was klined hehe
[06:50] <the_hammer> not even sure why but didnt work anyways dam newbie admins heh
[06:51] <killer_> twylight: maybe we could all join together and get you a gift card for a clothing store
[06:51] <twylight> actually
[06:51] <twylight> all of you join together and check my website regularly
[06:51] <twylight> because that will work wonders for my adsense account when I get it working
[06:51] <twylight> also, buy t-shirts when I start selling them
[06:51] <twylight> www.twylightsilverwing.net
[06:51] <rob> the_hammer, I removed it, it worked just fine :)
[06:52] <the_hammer> well thanks
[06:52] <the_hammer> rather like it here
[06:53] <Lynoure> hmph
[07:09] <the_hammer> Sysinfo for 'Lenovo': Linux 2.6.22-13-generic running KDE 3.5.7, CPU: GenuineIntel(R)CPUT2060@1.60GHz at 800 MHz (3192 bogomips), , RAM: 537/1002MB, 114 proc's, 4.55min up
[07:10] <the_hammer> not showing the debian sid now heh
[07:10] <the_hammer> has a mind of its own
[07:11] <Dr_willis> You name the pc's after the brand also eh? :)
[07:11] <Dr_willis> I got one box called "Audigy" another called "ShuttleX"
[07:12] <the_hammer> lol yup
[07:12] <Dr_willis> Then one called "ReadyForTrash"
[07:12] <the_hammer> lmao
[07:12] <tazgodx> ok, so what would cause "fdisk -l" to return with no output?
[07:12] <the_hammer> that must be the 1 with windows vista?
[07:12] <the_hammer> ready for trash hehe
[07:12] <Dr_willis> This one is called "MythTVBox" :)
[07:12] <the_hammer> friends dont let friends use windows :)
[07:13] <the_hammer> i heard about myth tv thats a usb thing right
[07:14] <the_hammer> watch tv on a usb thing?
[07:14] <the_hammer> am i right or is that different
[07:14] <tazgodx> no
[07:14] <tazgodx> control tv thru tv tuners
[07:15] <the_hammer> ok cool
[07:15] <tazgodx> anyone know why fdisk would return with no output?
[07:16] <the_hammer> does it say anything liek no fixed disk present?
[07:16] <twylight> www.wolfquest.org/ omg want
[07:16] <tazgodx> no, it just returns back with absolutly nothing
[07:18] <squidy> hello.. how can i do compiz start with kde startup without creating script and put it into autostart directory?
[07:18] <Dr_willis> well aint that being picky. :)
[07:18] <Dr_willis> edit the startkde script perhaps?
[07:18] <edson_> Hola a todos y todas
[07:18] <squidy> Dr_willis, startkde script?
[07:19] <edson_> alguien habla espaol
[07:19] <squidy> if i create a script with compiz --replace or something like that and put it into ~/.kde/Autostart.. when kde starts the adept_notify doesn't stay at tray... :(
[07:20] <Dr_willis> squidy,  you are using gutsy? or feisty?
[07:20] <squidy> Dr_willis, gutsy
[07:20] <Dr_willis> I imagine in the next week or so there will be some howto/guides on the 'proper' way to get compiz going with Kubuntu Gutsy.
[07:21] <Dr_willis> I havent done it yet myself. so cant advise more them to say check the ubuntu forums
[07:21] <Dr_willis> I may try to get it going right now.. lets see.. to the google!
[07:21] <vbatts> edson_, you might try #kubuntu-es
[07:22] <squidy> Dr_willis, ok dude... but it trouble was occurring on feisty too...
[07:22] <Dr_willis> compiz is very much a work in progress. :)
[07:23] <Dr_willis> lots of bits that have to interact just right.
[07:23] <squidy> :)
[07:23] <schiste> good morning folks :)
[07:24] <Dr_willis> well time to see if it worked...
[07:24] <Dr_willis> brb.
[07:30] <peter_>  can anyone help my pair my bluetooth devices u......i'm having problems pairing ....
[07:32] <squidy> i've got a trouble with my bluetooth too... it's working when i try to send a file to a mobile paired.. but if i want to send a file to my desktop it doesn't work..
[07:35] <mark4646> hey all
[07:36] <peter_> my own doesnt pair at all.....what were your steps for installling bluetooth
[07:38] <twylight> planeshift does not work
[07:38] <twylight> fail
[07:39] <fawx> hello..i tried 2 start a game..but then my comp restarted whut does this mean..?
[07:39] <twylight> what game
[07:39] <mark4646> what is a good program to use windows programs?
[07:39] <twylight> wine
[07:39] <fawx> trickster online
[07:40] <mark4646> ok.  is that the best one?
[07:40] <twylight> update your drivers
[07:40] <twylight> yes
[07:40] <twylight> it is
[07:40] <mark4646> ok.
[07:40] <mark4646> thanks
[07:40] <twylight> no prob
[07:40] <fawx> u said up date my drivers?
[07:40] <twylight> yep
[07:40] <twylight> that might help
[07:40] <fawx> umm..
[07:40] <fawx> how
[07:40] <twylight> graphics drivers
[07:40] <fawx> oh
[07:41] <Dr_willis> wee.. woobly windows under Kubuntu Gutsy..
[07:41] <Dr_willis> and a lot of little issues.. :)
[07:43] <Dr_willis> squidy,  i can say at this time.. Id not mess with Compiz on Kubuntu..   noticing several .. issues.
[07:45] <ardchoille> I have discovered kommander editor
[07:45] <ardchoille> This thing is nice :)
[07:46] <ardchoille> I used it to write this:  http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/9017/kmdrrh3.png
[07:49] <fawx> mayb an another nub question how do i check which graphic drives i have already?
[07:52] <schiste> Hi, I do have some kind of problem with kopete. as soon as I try to get connected to msn or jabber it crashes.
[07:53] <waltercool> im trying to do a multicd boot in a dvd, for my 'buntu distros, someone know how do one?
[07:53] <schiste> giving me the following error "impossible to create the module in/out
[07:57] <schiste> does anyone have any clue on how I could fix it ?
[08:01] <fawx> .......
[08:01] <twylight>  I am almost coming close to nearly getting secondlife to barely almost work
[08:02] <fawx> i'm trying 2 make maplestory,rappelz,nd trickster work.....ugh..
[08:04] <timbo__> I played second life once
[08:05] <timbo__> I think winde doors has it too
[08:05] <timbo__> wine*
[08:05] <hangthedj> does anybody know how to use the --geometry switch in kde applications?
[08:05] <hangthedj> what the format is?
[08:05] <fawx> can i make mpegs work on kubuntu?
[08:06] <hangthedj> it says do man X for format, but i have no manual entry for X
[08:06] <twylight> sudo apt-get install mplayer
[08:06] <twylight> or sudo apt-get install vlc
[08:06] <twylight> get both
[08:06] <fawx> type that where?
[08:06] <timbo__> i like vlc better.... seems to be more stable
[08:06] <addyk> in konsole
[08:06] <fawx> k
[08:07] <twylight> vlc kicks major ass
[08:07] <hangthedj> vlc has never worked for me ever.  i like kmplayer
[08:07] <timbo__> i would have to agree with you
[08:07] <fawx> do i need both
[08:07] <timbo__> dang, im installing gnome and its taking a while
[08:08] <fawx> vlc nd mplayer
[08:08] <fawx> ?
[08:08] <timbo__> brb
[08:11] <twylight> yes
[08:12] <fawx> kk
[08:12] <fawx> linux is weird
[08:12] <hangthedj> your weird
[08:12] <fawx> ::cries::
[08:13] <hangthedj> just kidding.
[08:13] <fawx> lol
[08:13] <hangthedj> i thought they would be funny
[08:13] <hangthedj> i was wrong.
[08:13] <fawx> it's weird getting use to
[08:13] <hangthedj> that
[08:14] <hangthedj> you get used to it faster than you'd think. ;)
[08:14] <fawx> hoepfully
[08:14] <fawx> hopefully
[08:15] <twylight> does anyone else have problems with secondlife?
[08:17] <hangthedj> i don't know what that is
[08:17] <Lynoure> twylight: If you do, the company's own support is probably the place to ask.
[08:17] <twylight> thing is
[08:17] <twylight> they won't let me log in
[08:18] <twylight> furget it\
[08:18] <Lynoure> Does not sound like a Kubuntu problem, then.
[08:19] <twylight> just keep trying
[08:19] <twylight> <(-.-<) <(-.-)> (>-.-)>
[08:20] <twylight> !emoticons
[08:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emoticons - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:20] <twylight> !ubotu
[08:20] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:24] <twylight> fail failfail fail fail
[08:25] <fawx> !fail
[08:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fail - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:26] <fawx> !distrojunkies
[08:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about distrojunkies - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:26] <fawx> !games
[08:26] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[08:28] <schiste> !kopete
[08:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kopete - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:29] <twylight> !anythingatall
[08:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anythingatall - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:29] <fawx> lol
[08:29] <twylight> !nothing
[08:29] <ubotu> Saying "It says nothing", "It does nothing" is generally not very useful for troubleshooting. Please be as specific as possible: if you see a black screen, say so, if you see a shell prompt, say so, if you see an !error message, say so - Also, most !CLI commands don't print anything when they succeed, but only when they fail.
[08:29] <twylight> !apple
[08:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apple - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:29] <twylight> !microsoft
[08:29] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[08:29] <fawx> !damnsmall
[08:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about damnsmall - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:30] <fawx> !yellowdog
[08:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yellowdog - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:30] <twylight> !tux
[08:30] <ubotu> tux is the Linux Mascot - http://www.isc.tamu.edu/~lewing/linux/
[08:30] <twylight> k
[08:30] <twylight> enough bot abuse
[08:30] <jMerliN> hi all
[08:30] <fawx> ...
[08:30] <twylight> hello
[08:30] <fawx> sup
[08:33] <fawx> !adeptinstaller
[08:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adeptinstaller - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:35] <mark4646> how do i use wine?
[08:35] <usser> mark4646: install it
[08:35] <usser> mark4646: do winecfg
[08:35] <mark4646> i installed a program but now how do i run it?
[08:36] <usser> mark4646: cd $HOME
[08:36] <usser> mark4646: cd .wine
[08:36] <usser> mark4646: cd drive_c
[08:36] <usser> and u're in C:
[08:36] <usser> then navigate to where program installed and point wine to executable
[08:36] <mark4646> but i clicked on the icon but it didnt work
[08:36] <usser> ie wine pgm.exe
[08:37] <usser> mark4646: those icons often dont work
[08:37] <usser> mark4646: what program is that?
[08:37] <mark4646> i installed msn
[08:37] <mark4646> i wanted to see if it would work
[08:37] <usser> mark4646: msn messenger?
[08:37] <mark4646> yes
[08:37] <dsmith> ewwww
[08:37] <fawx> use kopete
[08:37] <dsmith> use kopete
[08:38] <dsmith> lol
[08:38] <se7en^Of^9> why use msn?
[08:38] <usser> mark4646: its probably not gonna work as no one really bothered making it work with wine
[08:38] <dsmith> !kopete
[08:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kopete - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:38] <dsmith> ack
[08:38] <dsmith> !im
[08:38] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[08:38] <mark4646> i am using gaim right now
[08:38] <dsmith> !pidgin
[08:38] <ubotu> pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info. To install Pidgin please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallPidgin2.0
[08:39] <fawx> pidgin? weird name
[08:39] <dsmith> AOL 5uX0r
[08:39] <mark4646> aol sucks
[08:39] <mark4646> its just a big virus
[08:39] <dsmith> lol
[08:39] <mark4646> lol
[08:39] <dsmith> steve case can kiss my fat a55
[08:40] <dsmith> err...wait, is he still around?
[08:40] <mark4646> so most programs work in wine then?
[08:40] <mark4646> just not msn?
[08:40] <schiste> well both of you use kopete?
[08:40] <usser> mark4646: a lot of program work in wine, a lot dont
[08:41] <mark4646> ok
[08:41] <fawx> all the games i wana play don't
[08:41] <mark4646> WOW work?
[08:41] <mark4646> i used to play that game
[08:41] <dsmith> HL worls
[08:42] <dsmith> HL2 sorta works
[08:42] <fawx> i think WOW can work on wine
[08:42] <schiste> It does
[08:43] <schiste> as most of the game I have
[08:43] <sille> anyone have an idea how to change domain or work group in kubuntu??  or even how to switch on/off a network connection??
[08:44] <se7en^Of^9> www.blizzplanet.com/content/459/ mark4646
[08:44] <fawx> is there a prog better tha kaffeine?
[08:45] <schiste> vlc
[08:45] <schiste> but kaffeine is pretty good
[08:45] <jermain> hi everyone
[08:45] <fawx> kk
[08:45] <fawx> ello
[08:45] <Lynoure> sille: domain in the windows/samba sense?
[08:45] <mark4646> thats cool se7enof 9
[08:46] <sille> i guess.  not sure.  will give scenario...
[08:46] <mark4646> i dont have time to play it anymore though because of school
[08:46] <sille> have one work group for most of my microcrap pc's
[08:47] <sille> have one stand alone pc that is dual boot win and kubuntu
[08:47] <Lynoure> sille: there are many ways to turn off/on a network connection. If you use network-manager, you can just enter Offline mode
[08:47] <sille> the standalone was given a diff workgroup name so that it could share an internet connection with the other networked pcs.
[08:48] <sille> however, since it had a diff workgroup name, it was hidden from teh rest of pcs having a diff workgroup name
[08:48] <mark4646> will kubuntu upgrade to 7.10 along with unbuntu?
[08:49] <mark4646> they are basicly the same right?  just different desktop managers?
[08:49] <sille> kubuntu appears to see ALL the networked pcs... for security reasons, i really prefer to keep the two setups from being to "see" ea othetr.
[08:50] <jermain> i'm making a script and want the user to input a variable, can someone tell how to achieve this?
[08:50] <jermain> (unix btw)
[08:51] <sille> I would prefer not to have to enale/disable all teh time.  would prefer to have similar outcome of hiding one workgroup/domain form a dissimilar workgroup/domain... as stated muchas in using microcrap windoz.
[08:51] <level1> hi, I have a problem with vesa... basically, it want 1920x1200 resolution but I can't get it higher than 1600x1200
[08:51] <jermain> back to google again hehe :p
[08:52] <jermain> l8r guys ^^
[08:53] <fawx> is there a radio 4 linux or can it use a random 1 off the net?
[08:55] <se7en^Of^9> shoutcast.com > amarok fawx
[08:56] <fawx> thx
[08:56] <goofy-1> is there a way to start an app that is in the autostart directory minimized ?
[08:57] <ohshit> being philosophical is dangerous
[08:57] <ohshit> without qualifications
[08:58] <ohshit> if i am a philosopher i should get a phd in philosophy
[08:58] <ohshit> but i am not and i am not qualified
[08:58] <sille> any idea on how to change domain/workgroup name of network connection so that it would not be capable of seeing pcs runnign under a different workgroup or domani??
[08:59] <fawx> !xmms
[08:59] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[09:00] <fawx> damn he left
[09:02] <level1> !resolution
[09:02] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:07] <sille> pls,pls, pls,.  desperate for assist in being able to hide a particular workgroup (windowz) from my linux (closet) pc.  I would prefer that these two system run indepedently from earch other and are not able to "see" oneanother".  both my linux (kubuntu) system and ms windowz systems are running through the same routher and sharing an internet connection.
[09:09] <mark4646> cant you just make a different subnet for each groups of computers?
[09:09] <mark4646> then they cant see each other
[09:10] <sille> i hadnt been able to in windows.  Instead, best buy geek squad guy old me to set up my closet dual boot win/kubuntu with one workgroup name andthe other 4 networked windows only pcs with a different workgroup name.
[09:11] <sille> when starting up my closet dual boot system in windowzs, it does not see the other pcs.  however, when booting up in linux, alll, workgroups seen.  :{
[09:12] <mark4646> i think you can set up your computers to be on diffent subnets
[09:12] <mark4646> then they can see each other
[09:12] <fawx> linux is all-knowing and all-seeing srry lol
[09:12] <se7en^Of^9> :)
[09:12] <mark4646> haha
[09:13] <sille> which particular sets of subnets go with which particular ip addresses.?
[09:13] <mark4646> http://www.subnet-calculator.com/
[09:14] <sille> ex cross over adhocs use 255.255.0.0
[09:14] <mark4646> there is a calculator
[09:14] <sille> typical addresses beginning w/ ... calculator??
[09:15] <mark4646> that helps you get the different hosts for the different subnets
[09:15] <ohshit> hi mark4646
[09:15] <mark4646> hi
[09:15] <mark4646> there are certain hosts that go with certan subnets
[09:16] <mark4646> so when you set the subnet it gives the host rang
[09:16] <mark4646> range
[09:16] <mark4646> then you can set the ip address to that with the subnet
[09:17] <sille> k.  this sounds a lot more safe than teh suggestion by geek squader to just group by work groups.  as was joked a few lines above, linux IS all seeing and knowing...
[09:18] <mark4646> haha yeah
[09:18] <mark4646> workgroups are for windows
[09:18] <mark4646> and they dont really use them that much anyways
[09:18] <sille> mark4646 -->> will definately try the link to the calculator
[09:18] <mark4646> cool
[09:19] <mark4646> i am taking a networking class at college
[09:19] <mark4646> i have a bunch of subnetting homework due tuesday...
[09:20] <mark4646> you can also download subnet calculator
[09:20] <sille> have been meaning to do the same... for personal application and maintenance of my home network.
[09:20] <sille> but my fultime gig does not allow much time for classes theese days.
[09:21] <sille> thx mark4646
[09:21] <mark4646> http://support.solarwinds.net/updates/New-customerFree.cfm
[09:21] <mark4646> your welcome
[09:21] <mark4646> thats to download a subnet calc if you dont like that internet one
[09:22] <mark4646> yw
[09:23] <mark4646> well got to go to bed
[09:23] <mark4646> talk to you later
[09:23] <sille> thx again... will try to figure it
[09:23] <sille> gnite
[09:23] <sille>  ; }
[09:23] <mark4646> night
[09:28] <fawx> what's the virus scanner 4 linux?
[09:28] <ohshit> mark4646, bye
[09:28] <fawx> if any 1 knows
[09:28] <fawx> !virus
[09:28] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[09:29] <ohshit> fawx, there is no virus for linux effectively if you use only open-source software and given that you are willing to look at all sources if necessary
[09:29] <ohshit> but of course, this is impractical so this state cannot be attained
[09:30] <fawx> ...
[09:30] <fawx> mmk?
[09:31] <ohshit> fawx, i have an idea. let's say there is a minimal system that is guaranteed virus free(it satisfies the above condition for no virus). then we have the option of not needing a virus scanner by choosing not to install more programs.
[09:32] <fawx> tru
[09:32] <ohshit> i would suggest that the minimal virus-free system may be enabled by built-in automated self-checking mechnism.
[09:33] <ohshit> i have insufficient technical knowledge, but i'm just describing my thoughts
[09:33] <twylight> the minimal virus free system is called a fresh install
[09:33] <twylight> kthxbai
[09:33] <ohshit> fresh install + self-checking mechanism
[09:34] <fawx> linux already self checks
[09:34] <fawx> ??
[09:34] <hangthedj> does anybody know how to use the --geometry switch in kde applications?
[09:34] <ohshit> anywayz... thx for listening
[09:34] <hangthedj> it says do man X for format, but i have no manual entry for X
[09:34] <hangthedj> what the format is?
[09:34] <twylight> !x
[09:34] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:34] <twylight> kthxbai
[09:35] <ohshit> twylight, fresh install must preserve itself on all times
[09:35] <twylight> so make nothing writeable
[09:35] <ohshit> or write then revert conditionally
[09:35] <twylight> you're asking for a live cd
[09:35] <hangthedj> like if you run kdialog, before anything you can do --geometry
[09:35] <ohshit> ok...
[09:36] <twylight> when you restart, all changes go away, right?
[09:36] <hangthedj> but if you want it 30 x 40, 30x40 doesn't work and it says check man X, but there is no manual entry
[09:36] <ohshit> i guess what i'm saying is like a customizable live-cd
[09:36] <twylight> I doubt it's not out there
[09:36] <ohshit> ok
[09:37] <twylight> !fonts
[09:37] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[09:37] <ohshit> so you have generic live-cd A then you generate customized version B for any unique user
[09:37] <fawx> wait so ur saying it's not written 2 my hard drive really?
[09:37] <ohshit> no, i'm just making an analogy of live-cd which has insufficient capabilities
[09:38] <fawx> oh
[09:38] <fawx> ::learning stuff::
[09:38] <ohshit> yeah maybe system creates image of real time and makes similar systems real time, thereby evolving and virus-free
[09:39] <ohshit> this is after fresh-install
[09:40] <twylight> sounds like you've got a project on your hands
[09:40] <twylight> HOWEVER
[09:40] <ohshit> fresh-install i on to harddrive at time 0, then image j' at time 1 so revert to i' which is similar to i
[09:40] <twylight> something like that
[09:40] <ohshit> ...
[09:40] <fawx> it's probable
[09:41] <fawx> :: my head hurtz ::
[09:41] <ohshit> i don't know how we could calculate virus-free condition
[09:41] <ohshit> so that i and i' are both virus free, therefore similar
[09:42] <waltercool> speaking simmilar, someone know how do a multiboot dvd of linux?
[09:44] <twylight> I always had trouble with those
[09:44] <twylight> trying to install fedora core
[09:45] <twylight> it's like they want you to have 4 dvd drives
[09:46] <twylight> zassscccccetbhy555jjjjj8ooil.;o
[09:46] <twylight> fucking cat
[09:46] <fawx> lol
[09:46] <hangthedj> !ohmy
[09:46] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:46] <twylight> !jesus
[09:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jesus - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:46] <twylight> WE MUST BAPTIZE UBOTU
[09:46] <twylight> >.>
[09:46] <twylight> <.<
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[09:47] <ohshit> oh
[09:47] <fawx> try hosea
[09:47] <ohshit> why fuck
[09:47] <twylight> !hosea
[09:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hosea - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:47] <ohshit> why fuck ppl compromise my system
[09:47] <ohshit> what did i do
[09:47] <ohshit> i know nothing
[09:47] <twylight> !language
[09:47] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:47] <twylight> !ohmy
[09:47] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:47] <twylight> !zomg
[09:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zomg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:47] <fawx> u changed oh..
[09:48] <twylight> ohshi-
[09:49] <fawx> is this channel supposed 2 be international or U.S.?
[09:49] <Lynoure> fawx: it's international support channel for kubuntu
[09:50] <fawx> oh
[09:50] <beau> umm
[09:51] <twylight> fux
[09:51] <twylight> !life
[09:51] <ubotu> life is something very few people know about in this channel - and anyway, it's probably offtopic, perhaps you want to try #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:51] <beau> newbie question: How can I edit the command of an icon so that it asks me for su password and will run as such ingraphical mode?
[09:51] <twylight> questions like that give me an idea
[09:51] <ohshit> beau, are you using kde?
[09:51] <beau> yes
[09:52] <Lynoure> beau: icon? you mean a launcher on the desktop, right?
[09:52] <VSpike> beau: go to properties, application tab, advanced options, run as other user
[09:52] <beau> Right. Or even in K menu or self made links.
[09:52] <fawx> whut idea
[09:52] <beau> Thank you!
[09:53] <VSpike> beau: you put "root" in there, to make it require sudo
[09:53] <Lynoure> beau: or just add kdesu  in front of the command name.
[09:53] <vidji> salut
[09:54] <fawx> ...
[09:54] <vidji> qqn sait si il y a un equivalent a msn ?
[09:54] <beau> kdesu - I think that's what I want. Thx.
[09:54] <pag> !fr | vidji
[09:54] <ubotu> vidji: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:54] <ohshit> dudes
[09:54] <Lynoure> vidji: maybe  kopete?
[09:55] <ohshit> how do ppl like who make south park get started?
[09:55] <ohshit> and how do they keep making revenue?
[09:55] <NightBird> ohshit: as musicians
[09:55] <ohshit> oh
[09:55] <NightBird> ohshit: south park was meant to be a starting point for their band... their band still hasn't taken off
[09:55] <vidji> thank I didn't think you are english
[09:55] <vidji> bie
[09:55] <NightBird> also, pandering to the least common denominator
[09:55] <Lynoure> vidji: I'm not, I'm a Finn
[09:56] <beau> I really needed the answer to that question, but furthermore tomorrow, I'm giving a workshop at the Fl state green party convention on why they need to explore linux. The question was a test for IRC question response time...
[09:56] <beau> Anything you think they should know?
[09:56] <Lynoure> beau: this channel is an unusual mess today :/
[09:56] <beau> I am actually a newbie
[09:56] <fawx> me 2
[09:56] <Lynoure> beau: everyone was once. :)
[09:57] <fawx> no..
[09:57] <fawx> sum ppl r born with it
[09:57] <Lynoure> One has to be a teen or younger to have been born with Linux =)
[09:58] <NightBird> no, everyone starts a newbie.  it just tends to vary on how long it takes them to overcome that
[09:58] <beau> Does anyone have anything to say that they think the Florida Green Party should know when making their software choices? I mean beyond the standard party line, which I intend to trumpet.
[09:59] <fawx> no...if u believe in god which i don't nd yes this is off topic god kew wen he was born jesus 2 be correct
[09:59] <ohshit> what are you talking about?
[09:59] <fawx> who?
[09:59] <fdoving> !offtopic
[09:59] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[10:00] <fawx> i am in offtopic
[10:00] <fawx> ..also
[10:00] <fawx> sorry
[10:00] <beau> So, in summary - come to the forum for specific questions. If you just want to chat, find that forums. Thanks, bye, I'll be back.
[10:00] <ohshit> no worries man... we are all human
[10:01] <ohshit> if i die, some people will cry, but only for a while
[10:01] <ohshit> it's OK
[10:01] <fawx> i like chatting here..buti'll stop
[10:01] <ohshit> sure
[10:02] <twylight> !fail
[10:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fail - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:02] <hangthedj> fawx, your not in kubuntu-offtopic?
[10:02] <Hobbsee> ohshit: dude....offtopic
[10:02] <fawx> i mean i have it open 2
[10:04] <hangthedj> your not in #kubuntu-offtopic
[10:05] <fawx> Linux Rox w00t!!!
[10:05] <ohshit> fawx, i totally agree
[10:06] <twylight> totally
[10:06] <twylight> can someone find me the old linux second life client
[10:06] <twylight> because I've looked
[10:07] <twylight> hint: it's not on their site because they're a bunch of buggy software pushing asshats
[10:07] <fawx> no u haven't..digg deep yuong grasshopper
[10:07] <Lynoure> twylight: old?
[10:07] <hangthedj> i wish i knew what second life was, cause you make it sound neccessary, and if thats the case i need it.
[10:07] <Lynoure> twylight: there is one on http://secondlife.com/community/linux-alpha.php
[10:07] <Hobbsee> !nickspam
[10:07] <ubotu> You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[10:07] <twylight> rhe OLD ONE
[10:08] <twylight> not the new version
[10:08] <Lynoure> twylight: I'm not their employer or a second life user. I don't know what version you mean without you telling me and you are not telling
[10:08] <twylight> 1.18.3.5 is the current version
[10:08] <twylight> I want 1.18.3.3 or 1.18.3.4
[10:09] <Lynoure> twylight: I'd ask Second Life Linux forum, someone there bound to have it, or access to their version control.
[10:10] <twylight> thing is
[10:10] <hangthedj> is there a program to install tar.gz source files?
[10:10] <fawx> srry but whut is SL?
[10:10] <twylight> I can't access their forum without logging into secondlife
[10:10] <NightBird> fawx: massivly multiplayer online... chat....
[10:10] <Lynoure> hangthedj: you can unpack them with tar -zxf filename
[10:10] <twylight> and I can't fucking log into secondlife without an older fucking verison of the client
[10:10] <twylight> excuse my language
[10:10] <NightBird> !language
[10:10] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:10] <Lynoure> hangthedj: the rest varies by package.
[10:10] <hangthedj> i know, i'm just curious cause i'm working on a bash script to help people that don't know how.
[10:11] <fawx> like xfire
[10:11] <NightBird> twylight: doesn't it do a version check anyways?
[10:11] <fawx> or it's a game
[10:11] <twylight> no
[10:11] <NightBird> fawx: well... it's got 3d avatars in it
[10:11] <twylight> the client version 1.18.3.5 crashes every time I try to log in
[10:11] <Lynoure> twylight: Chances are no one here uses SL except you, thus cannot post anything into the forums for you.
[10:12] <hangthedj> i don't even know what SL is, and nobody wants to tell me :(
[10:12] <twylight> SL is a social game
[10:12] <NightBird> it's 3d chat
[10:12] <fawx> never heard of it
[10:12] <hangthedj> ahh, thanks
[10:12] <fawx> like that peguin game
[10:12] <fawx> penguin*
[10:12] <NightBird> it lets you create objects and attach scripts to them as well...
[10:13] <twylight> it has it's own economy as well
[10:13] <fawx> so it's like an rpg w/ no fighting
[10:13] <NightBird> fawx: pretty much...
[10:13] <NightBird> and more peni being thrown at people
[10:13] <hangthedj> weird.
[10:14] <hangthedj> or i mean word.
[10:14] <fawx> come on twy no pvp
[10:14] <fawx> where u can kill nubs
[10:15] <twylight> I want to access it because I cannot access it
[10:15] <fawx> oh
[10:16] <Lynoure> twylight: https://secure-web14.secondlife.com/community/support.php does not require a working client program.
[10:17] <twylight> will you listen to me when I say that I cannot access the damned forums
[10:17] <hangthedj> so does anybody know if there is a program or script to install source files?
[10:17] <Lynoure> twylight: this is a Kubuntu problem how?
[10:17] <twylight> because it crashes under kubuntu
[10:17] <fawx> well....
[10:17] <twylight> hang: ./configure
[10:18] <Lynoure> twylight: what web browsers have you tried? Firefox might work better than Konqueror
[10:18] <pag> hangthedj, " ./configure && make && sudo make install "
[10:18] <twylight> I use firefox
[10:18] <hangthedj> twylight, i know, scroll back, i'm writing a program to install source files for people that don't know how.
[10:18] <deviance> What the name of the program used to change the login screen
[10:18] <hangthedj> i'm just wondering if there is a program already.
[10:18] <twylight> the program is called readme.txt
[10:19] <twylight> and it's not a program
[10:19] <twylight> it's a manual
[10:19] <Lynoure> twylight: If you start behaving, and after this take your SL stuff elsewhere, I can post a support request on your behalf (as it works fine as a guest on my konqueror)
[10:19] <Jesus_saves> kde looks pretty good now
[10:19] <holyguyver> how do I get Kubuntu to mount a USB mass storage device?
[10:19] <fawx> is Sl supposed 2run on windows?
[10:19] <ardchoille> deviance: kdmtheme
[10:19] <Jesus_saves> it looks better than windows 98 at least
[10:19] <ardchoille> deviance: It's a module in kcontrol
[10:19] <deviance> Hmm
[10:19] <Lynoure> twylight: just /msg me with the text for the support request
[10:19] <twylight> it's supposed to run on mac, windows and linux
[10:19] <holyguyver> !mount
[10:19] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[10:20] <hangthedj> ok, i want people that have no idea about linux, or what a tar.gz or tar.bz2 or .tgz to be able to install a source package, by clicking on a script.
[10:20] <pag> hangthedj, I've heard of program called " kompile " - but I'm not sure, was that an actual program or just an idea. try looking at kde-apps.org
[10:20] <hangthedj> and i'm just wondering if anything like that exists.
[10:20] <deviance> ardchoille: Isnt there a porgam where you can install themes?
[10:20] <deviance> That just lets you change the background
[10:20] <hangthedj> pag, thank you. :)
[10:20] <ardchoille> deviance: Yes, there is.. it's kdmtheme
[10:20] <tokorona> kdmthememanager, IIRC.
[10:20] <NightBird> hangthedj: build a .deb package maybe?  that way they should just double click it, and it should install it
[10:20] <deviance> Hmm
[10:21] <hangthedj> NightBird, i didn't even think about that, thats a good idea.
[10:21] <ardchoille> deviance: sudo apt-get install kdmtheme
[10:21] <deviance> Ahh, got it
[10:21] <NightBird> I think .deb's only work for binary though, but it may be able to do a compile and install
[10:21] <deviance> It wasn't installed :D
[10:21] <ardchoille> deviance: After it's installed, go to the laste section in kcontrol and you'll see it
[10:21] <fawx> mount is a funni word
[10:21] <deviance> Okay ^_^
[10:21] <hangthedj> a little extra programing to make sure they have all the dh stuff, but worth it.
[10:22] <ardchoille> deviance: It's just a nice gui to install and choose themes, you could have done the same thing in a text editor, tho
[10:22] <deviance> I could, but I'm lazy
[10:22] <deviance> :P
[10:22] <ardchoille> same
[10:22] <ardchoille> :)
[10:23] <deviance> Now to get some themes. Kde-look should do
[10:23] <ardchoille> deviance: Yep, tons of them there
[10:26] <Lynoure> deviance: if in the process you find out how to change Amarok analyzer colours, let me know :)
[10:26] <holyguyver> how can I view the files on my USB Mass Storage device?
[10:26] <deviance> Haha I wish
[10:26] <deviance> It could be part of the colour settings
[10:27] <broc93> good morning all
[10:27] <ardchoille> holyguyver: You'd have to mount the device and then cd to it
[10:27] <Lynoure> holyguyver: normally it's just a matter of plugging the device in and choosing from the options that pop up the one that displays the files
[10:27] <holyguyver> how do I mount it?
[10:27] <Lynoure> deviance: tried everything obvious yesterday, not that simple. Starting to think they are hardcoded
[10:27] <ardchoille> holyguyver: plug it in?
[10:27] <Lynoure> holyguyver: it should automatically mount
[10:27] <fawx> lol
[10:28] <holyguyver> I plugged it in, the options thing came, I said open in new window, & nothing opened, I went to disk & file system & it said that indeed it is there & it is /dev/sda1 so I went there & nothing only says a block device
[10:29] <ardchoille> holyguyver: Now that you know it's /dev/sda1, open a terminal, type "mount" and look where that device is mounted. Then cd to that mount point
[10:29] <hangthedj> holyguyver, is usbmount and usbutils installed?
[10:30] <ardchoille> probably /mnt/media or something
[10:30] <Lynoure> holyguyver: what kind of usb device it is?
[10:30] <holyguyver> it is simple tech simpledrive USB 500GB External Hardrive
[10:30] <Lynoure> holyguyver: there are at least some 'smart' sony ones that have their own MS Windows software that needs to run :/
[10:30] <Lynoure> holyguyver: what's the filesystem on it?
[10:31] <ardchoille> Lynoure: I wonder if the sony devices have embedded rootkits, lol
[10:31] <holyguyver> I have not heard of usbmount nor usbutils so I do not know if they are installed
[10:31] <ardchoille> They're never gonna live that down
[10:31] <beau> Me again: Deadline approaching fast. Can someone direct me to a kubuntu gui for setting up an ad-hoc network? I'm going to run the presentation by directing...
[10:31] <hangthedj> usb HDs are usually at /dev/sdb something.
[10:31] <holyguyver> ardchoille what is cd?
[10:31] <Lynoure> ardchoille: not after doing it twice, oh well.
[10:31] <beau> users to connect to my web server for supplemental info
[10:31] <beau> there in no web access at the location
[10:31] <hangthedj> holyguyver, you can do dpkg -l|grep usb in a konsole and if it has an i infront of it, its installed.
[10:32] <ardchoille> !bash | holyguyver
[10:32] <ubotu> holyguyver: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[10:32] <Lynoure> beau: ad hoc wifi network? Never done it, but I can dig for one...
[10:32] <beau> Thx so much. No sleep, 4 hour deadline
[10:32] <se7en^Of^9> holyguyver: dpkg -l | grep usbmount   shows you if you have the package installed
[10:33] <holyguyver> hangthedj I checked & I don't even have a dev/sdb
[10:34] <hangthedj> holyguyver, try lsusb and see if your hd is listed
[10:35] <ardchoille> se7en^Of^9:  "dpkg -l | grep usbmount" returns nothing. However, "apt-cache policy usbmount" does tell me whether it's installed or not ;)
[10:35] <Lynoure> beau: haven't read them through yet, but https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Adhoc looks promising
[10:35] <se7en^Of^9> sudo dpkg -L usbmount ardchoille sorry
[10:35] <beau> BTW, I'll never buy a playstation for fear of imbedded rootkits in my room with mic, cam, and web access
[10:36] <beau> Lynoure: going there now. Thx!
[10:36] <hangthedj> if usbmount is not installed dpkg -l | grep usbmount will return nothing.
[10:36] <ardchoille> se7en^Of^9: Ah, ok
[10:36] <ardchoille> se7en^Of^9: Thanks for that info
[10:36] <se7en^Of^9> sudo dpkg -L usbmount
[10:36] <ardchoille> se7en^Of^9: Why would you need sudo for that?
[10:37] <holyguyver> ardchoille & se7en^of^9 I do have usb, but not usbmount
[10:37] <se7en^Of^9> but it'snot installed on my box and it works as well
[10:37] <se7en^Of^9> i do need sudo you might not need it
[10:37] <hangthedj> holyguyver, you can also do ls /dev/sd* and see what the output is.
[10:37] <ardchoille> holyguyver: I don't have usbmount installed and usb devices work fine
[10:38] <ardchoille> holyguyver: If you type "mount" does it show where that device is mounted?
[10:38] <hangthedj> i don't have usbmount installed either.
[10:38] <ardchoille> you don't need it
[10:38] <se7en^Of^9> don't need it
[10:38] <hangthedj> but flash drives and usb HDs might be different? not sure
[10:39] <holyguyver> hang the output is /dev/sda /dev/sda1
[10:39] <se7en^Of^9> should work without usbmount
[10:39] <hangthedj> holyguyver, so it seems its not recognizing it.
[10:39] <ardchoille> holyguyver: I told you how to see those files. Have you tried it?
[10:40] <hangthedj> holyguyver, you aren't on a live cd are you?
[10:40] <ardchoille> He said the device was mounted. All he has to do is type "mount". see where it's mounted and cd there
[10:40] <holyguyver> so many poeple telling me so many different things, I have tried all of the suggestions, but please archoille do tell me what was your suggestion again?
[10:40] <holyguyver> what is cd again?
[10:40] <ardchoille> change directory
[10:41] <holyguyver> thank you
[10:41] <ardchoille> holyguyver: Now that you know it's /dev/sda1, open a terminal, type "mount" and look where that device is mounted. Then cd to that mount point
[10:41] <ardchoille> yw
[10:42] <holyguyver> it gave me an odd output when I hit mount that I can't understand, so I will pastebin it for you guys to see
[10:42] <ardchoille> holyguyver: ok
[10:44] <se7en^Of^9> holyguyver: look for something like this line  /dev/sda2 on /media/sda2 type ext3 (rw)
[10:44] <hangthedj> i'm confused cause if its usb it should be sdb
[10:45] <ardchoille> hangthedj: not if it's the first partition
[10:45] <holyguyver> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39828/
[10:46] <ardchoille> holyguyver: it's not mounted
[10:46] <holyguyver> but it shows up in the disk & file system thing
[10:46] <ardchoille> I thought you said it was mounted
[10:46] <ardchoille> ok
[10:46] <holyguyver> doesn't that mean it is mounted?
[10:46] <ardchoille> no
[10:47] <holyguyver> how do I mount it?
[10:47] <ardchoille> if it's not recognised as a device, you won't be able to mount it
[10:47] <holyguyver> but it is
[10:47] <ardchoille> unplug it, plug it back in and try the gui (open in new window) again
[10:48] <holyguyver> is there a website like pastebin where I can paste a screenshot?
[10:48] <ardchoille> holyguyver: http://imageshack.us/
[10:49] <ardchoille> holyguyver: Are you running Feisty or Gutsy or other?
[10:49] <holyguyver> feisty
[10:49] <ardchoille> ok
[10:54] <jason> hello
[10:54] <Jesus_saves> hi jason
[10:54] <jason> how does this work
[10:55] <holyguyver> archoille
[10:55] <ardchoille> You ask a question and someone tries to answer
[10:55] <ardchoille> holyguyver: yes?
[10:55] <holyguyver> alright I hope this link works http://img233.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1dv9.png
[10:56] <hangthedj> neat, ok, i'm on gutsy, so i forgot about hda.  shouldn't you be able to do like, 'sudo mkdir /mnt/sda; sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda'
[10:56] <ardchoille> holyguyver: hold on
[10:56] <ardchoille> hangthedj: Gutsy help in #ubuntu+1
[10:56] <jason> i need to install my printer how
[10:57] <ardchoille> !print
[10:57] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[10:57] <holyguyver> if it worked, then tell me once again, it does not recognize it?
[10:57] <hangthedj> ardchoille, gotcha, i just wasn't thinking, i've been using it since the first release.. sorry
[10:57] <twylight> I love you all
[10:57] <twylight> you're all awesome
[10:57] <ardchoille> holyguyver: open a terminal and type this: ls /mnt/sda1
[10:57] <gianlu> italiani??
[10:57] <ardchoille> !it
[10:57] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:58] <hangthedj> haha, ardchoille, you didn't miss a beat there.
[10:58] <hangthedj> that was cool.
[10:58] <ardchoille> :)
[10:58] <ardchoille> Gotta love the bot
[10:58] <holyguyver> ardchoille: ls: /mnt/sda1: No such file or directory
[10:59] <ardchoille> holyguyver: Good, now type this:  sudo mkdir /mnt/sda1 && sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1
[10:59] <ardchoille> holyguyver: Mind the spaces
[10:59] <hangthedj> hey, i just said that
[11:00] <ardchoille> hangthedj: Yeah, but I thought he said it was mounted before
[11:01] <holyguyver> alright, I am not sure what it did, after I gave the password, it waited a few seconds & then went back to the thing where I may type, without showing any more info
[11:01] <ardchoille> holyguyver: ok, now try this: cd /mnt/sda1 && ls
[11:01] <ardchoille> twylight: lol
[11:02] <hangthedj> touch her.txt && grep her.txt ;)
[11:02] <ardchoille> now now
[11:02] <holyguyver> bash: cd: /mnt/sda1: Permission denied
[11:02] <ardchoille> ah hah
[11:02] <hangthedj> holyguyver, try putting sudo in front of those commands.
[11:02] <ardchoille> yes
[11:03] <ardchoille> not sure why it mounted rwx------
[11:04] <hangthedj> yeah thats kinda weird.
[11:04] <holyguyver> sudo: cd: command not found
[11:05] <hangthedj> try 'sudo ls /mnt/sda1'
[11:06] <holyguyver> well it just gave me a list of it's uppist layer folders
[11:06] <ardchoille> holyguyver: Ok, that tells me it's mounted at /mnt/sda1
[11:07] <schiste> cd doesn't need sudo
[11:07] <ardchoille> schiste: It does if root is the only one allowed to enter the folder
[11:07] <schiste> normally not
[11:07] <schiste> you can enter the folder
[11:07] <schiste> but you won't be able to do a thing
[11:08] <holyguyver> alright I just tried going to /mnt/sda1 & it said I do not have access rights to this location
[11:08] <schiste> try cd /mnt/sda1/
[11:08] <hangthedj> if its not readable by users or other, i don't think it will let you read it.
[11:08] <ardchoille> schiste: if a folder is rwx------ and owned by root, the user won't be able to cd
[11:08] <schiste> why is it in rwx----- ? Oo
[11:08] <ardchoille> [02:02]  <holyguyver> bash: cd: /mnt/sda1: Permission denied
[11:09] <ardchoille> schiste: That's what I'm wondering
[11:09] <schiste> switch to a root session so
[11:09] <ardchoille> schiste: Careful, this fella didn't know what "cd" was for and you want him to use a root session?
[11:09] <ardchoille> :P
[11:10] <schiste> oh
[11:10] <schiste> well if he do what we say should be ok
[11:10] <ardchoille> True
[11:10] <schiste> but he has no choice
[11:10] <holyguyver> all I did was plug in the usb cord, how did it get into rwx?
[11:10] <ardchoille> holyguyver: It mounted like that, don't know why
[11:11] <schiste> what kind of drive is it?
[11:11] <holyguyver> an external harddrive
[11:11] <schiste> otherwise you can try the easy way first
[11:11] <ardchoille> holyguyver: Try this: sudo chmod a+x /mnt/sda1
[11:11] <schiste> in your ..; heuu... the control settings (?)
[11:12] <schiste> check how it is mounting and change it
[11:12] <holyguyver> chmod: changing permissions of `/mnt/sda1': Read-only file system
[11:12] <ardchoille> ah hah, it mounted ro instead of rw
[11:12] <ardchoille> Never had that happen to me
[11:12] <schiste> what's the file system
[11:12] <schiste> it did happen to me once
[11:13] <ardchoille> schiste: I'll hand this off to you, I do't know how to remount for rw
[11:13] <schiste> the first time I plugged a external drive in on my feisty
[11:13] <holyguyver> it is ntfs, but I have ntfs-3g installed on this computer
[11:13] <holyguyver> I am on fiesty
[11:13] <schiste> ardchoille: I did it the easy way iirc
[11:13] <ardchoille> ntfs, figures
[11:13] <snook> bonjour
[11:13] <schiste> through the control settings I think
[11:13] <schiste> It's some kind of "protection"
[11:14] <snook> je chercher une perssone qui pourais meder sous lutilisation de kubuntus
[11:14] <schiste> snook: #kubuntu-fr
[11:14] <holyguyver> so, how about do I go about this schiste?
[11:14] <schiste> K menu
[11:15] <schiste> controll panel or control settings or... well something like that
[11:15] <schiste> don't remember wich one
[11:16] <schiste> holyguyver: or system settings
[11:16] <holyguyver> isn't control panel the windows version of KDE System settings?
[11:16] <ardchoille> holyguyver: I'll let someone else take over from here. But, I do suggest you find a good bash tutorial and become familiar with navigating the file system from the command line.
[11:16] <holyguyver> :p
[11:16] <schiste> you'll learn a lot
[11:17] <holyguyver> hey I didn't know what bash was until about 40 minutes ago
[11:17] <schiste> and as it's an external drive, the worst you could do is... well nothin worst
[11:17] <ardchoille> holyguyver: lol
[11:17] <holyguyver> so anyway in system settings, how do I go about the switch?
[11:18] <schiste> you have two tabs
[11:18] <schiste> one is named advanced
[11:18] <schiste> go there
[11:18] <holyguyver> I am already there as ard saw in the screen shot
[11:19] <holycow> there arent that bmany commands to know anyway
[11:19] <schiste> so file system
[11:19] <schiste> holycow: basicly nope
[11:19] <schiste> exept if you want do advanced stuff
[11:20] <holyguyver> here schiste is the screenshot I sent earlier http://img233.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1dv9.png
[11:20] <schiste> Oo
[11:20] <Vosper> is the auatomatix site down?
[11:21] <schiste> it's oddly weird!
[11:21] <schiste> ;p
[11:21] <schiste> Ok the swith to superuser mode
[11:21] <ardchoille> schiste: Would it help if he unmounted and remounted with:  "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1"  ?
[11:21] <schiste> Administrator mode
[11:21] <holycow> i hope its down forever
[11:21] <ardchoille> <-- just throwing ideas out there
[11:21] <twylight> cocks
[11:21] <schiste> ardchoille: temporarly but he would have to do this every time
[11:21] <ardchoille> schiste: Ah, true
[11:21] <schiste> but it's really weird
[11:21] <ardchoille> yeah
[11:22] <schiste> look it doesn't even show the file system
[11:23] <ardchoille> I noticed that
[11:24] <ardchoille> Maybe it can't recognise the fs and that's why it mounted ro
[11:24] <schiste> that's the weirdest thing in this
[11:24] <schiste> if it's ntfs it's even weirder!
[11:24] <ardchoille> no comment ;)
[11:24] <schiste> Feisty is great for that
[11:24] <schiste> (mounting)
[11:25] <ardchoille> yeah, Fesity is awesome
[11:25] <holyguyver> alright I am in admin mode
[11:26] <schiste> ok so
[11:26] <schiste> let me a sec I do the same
[11:26] <schiste> because I don't remember how to do it with the graphical stuff
[11:26] <ardchoille> holyguyver: Just out of curiousity, you didn't use automatix for anything, did you??
[11:27] <holyguyver> what is automatix?
[11:27] <schiste> you should have a modify buton
[11:27] <ardchoille> You do't want it
[11:27] <schiste> or something like that
[11:27] <holyguyver> Yes I do have a modify button, should I click it
[11:28] <schiste> first selec your external drive
[11:28] <schiste> and then click on modify
[11:28] <ardchoille> Why do I get the feeling that this isn't going to work?
[11:28] <schiste> you should have a mounting permission thing on the bottom
[11:28] <holyguyver> when I click on my ext hhd it greys out the modify button
[11:28] <schiste> lmao
[11:28] <schiste> Excellent
[11:28] <ardchoille> :)
[11:28] <schiste> do you have a video camera
[11:29] <ardchoille> I thought so
[11:29] <schiste> So you can record it
[11:29] <holyguyver> Yes I do have a video camera
[11:29] <schiste> because it's amazingly weird
[11:29] <schiste> ok have you tryed the stuppidest thing on earth
[11:29] <snowdonkey> Hi.  Can someone tell me where the Qt libraries are?  I'm trying to compile a program and it's not accepting /usr/include/qt3/private which is where Adept says they're installed.
[11:29] <schiste> unplug/plug
[11:29] <holyguyver> YES, DID THAT 3 TIMES
[11:29] <holyguyver> sorry accidently hit caplock
[11:30] <ardchoille> snowdonkey: First of all, what are you compiling?
[11:30] <snowdonkey> ardchoille: I'm compiling kwin_smooth_akua_os_k-0.9 window decorations.
[11:31] <murlidhar> is there anyway where i can mount my phone as pendrive rather than memory card????
[11:31] <ardchoille> snowdonkey: Have you heard of baghira? It's in the repos. Want a screenshot?
[11:31] <holyguyver> so any advise? :p
[11:31] <snowdonkey> ardchoille: I've heard of baghira & seen some stuff.  I didn't know it was in the repos.  :-/
[11:32] <ardchoille> snowdonkey: Here is my desktop: http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/7607/kdeosxxv7.jpg
[11:32] <ardchoille> snowdonkey: sudo apt-get install kwin-baghira
[11:32] <schiste> can you do just a thing
[11:32] <schiste> sudo fdisk -l
[11:32] <snowdonkey> ardchoille: Wow, nice.  :)
[11:32] <schiste> and copy the line of your external drive
[11:32] <jpatrick> ardchoille: :o
[11:32] <ardchoille> snowdonkey: That was done purely with baghira
[11:33] <snowdonkey> ardchoille: ...and I've just installed it.
[11:33] <holyguyver> ardchoille schiste, is there something else to help?
[11:33] <holyguyver> no schiste for I have over 200GB of data on there
[11:33] <schiste> hu?
[11:34] <snowdonkey> ardchoille: Thx for the tip!  So pretty  :D
[11:34] <schiste> Buy an Apple.
[11:34] <ardchoille> snowdonkey: Here's a tutorial about it. Skip the first section (installing) and realise that tutorial has some out of date info. But, baghira rocks!
[11:34] <holyguyver> alright I am offically confused
[11:34] <schiste> holyguyver: I was speaking to snowdonkey and ardchoille ^^
[11:35] <holyguyver> So what do I do?
[11:35] <schiste> i told you to make a sudo fdisk -l and copy the external drive line
[11:35] <holyguyver> but I have 200GB of importent data on there, won't that delete it?
[11:36] <schiste> heu not at all...
[11:36] <schiste> it will display the details of the file systems
[11:36] <ardchoille> holyguyver: No, the "-l" means list
[11:36] <holyguyver> you are scaring me
[11:36] <schiste> of your partitions
[11:36] <schiste> hey we're not the windows users telling you to do c:format
[11:36] <ardchoille> hehe
[11:37] <jeri> hi everyone!
[11:37] <snowdonkey> ardchoille: did I miss your link to tutorial?
[11:37] <schiste> you're among nice people (aka linux and kde users (the nicest and the smartest btw))
[11:37] <jeri> im having trouble opening my adept
[11:37] <jeri> can someone help me
[11:37] <holyguyver> so once I list it, then what?
[11:37] <schiste> you should have a line about your external drive
[11:38] <ardchoille> snowdonkey: Hmm.. no, that ardchoille guy forgot to post it, lol. Here it is: http://baghira.sourceforge.net/OS_Clone-en.php
[11:38] <holyguyver> & tyhen what should I do with that line?
[11:38] <snowdonkey> ardchoille: cool, thx again.
[11:39] <ardchoille> yw
[11:39] <holyguyver> schiste then what would I do with that line
[11:40] <schiste> copy it here :)
[11:41] <pag> jeri, what kind of trouble?
[11:42] <holyguyver>  /dev/sda1               1       60801   488384001    7  HPFS/NTFS
[11:43] <schiste> HPFS Oo
[11:43] <jeri> dpkg trouble
[11:43] <jeri> ive abort the installation of sun-java5.bin
[11:43] <derka> Whats a good theme system for KDE ?
[11:44] <jeri> i cannot use adept the way it wer before
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[11:44] <schiste> jeri: what's happening
[11:44] <crackhead_25> question: hey people's.. i have edgy eft right now.. do you think feisty fawn is looking good and reliable enough to upgrade? or is it still too green?? im pretty new to linux
[11:44] <ardchoille> jeri: Did you close adept?
[11:44] <jeri> yup
[11:44] <schiste> holyguyver: ok you're using a REALLY old file system
[11:44] <derka> I'm using 7.04, no problems here
[11:44] <jeri> i'ts open right now
[11:44] <pag> crackhead_25, Feisty is ~6 months old already..
[11:44] <ardchoille> crackhead_25: Feisty was released months ago
[11:44] <holyguyver> I am?
[11:44] <derka> running in VMWare
[11:44] <schiste> holyguyver: oh yes
[11:45] <holyguyver> does ardchoille know?
[11:45] <crackhead_25> ardchoille: i know.. at the time it was having quite a few problems with people.. is it improved and smooth enough now? do you know what im saying?
[11:45] <jeri> umm  4get bout it,its working now hehe
[11:45] <schiste> ardchoille: well it was used years and years and years ago
[11:45] <ardchoille> crackhead_25: I use it as my sole OS.. and, not sure if you remember me, I'm the pickiest and impatient person on the planet. Yes, Feisty is great now.
[11:46] <jeri> just need to upgrade sun java
[11:46] <holyguyver> ardchoille did you see what schiste said about my file system?
[11:46] <crackhead_25> ardchoille.. did you have to modify or customize much, or did it transition from your prev version seamlessly?
[11:47] <ardchoille> crackhead_25: I did an upgrade from Dapper to Edgy and it broke everything, haven't done an upgrade since and never will again, so I don't know about upgrades.
[11:47] <ardchoille> holyguyver: Ah, ok, an old file system.
[11:48] <schiste> holyguyver: this file system was used something like 15years ago at least
[11:48] <ardchoille> crackhead_25: But, people are still finding upgrades breaking everything
[11:48] <schiste> perhaps older, i don't remember exactly
[11:48] <holyguyver> So you two, what do I do now? & also I just bought this external hhd 5 months ago?
[11:48] <jeri> does it take long upgrade java5-bin?
[11:48] <schiste> holyguyver: are you able to format your external drive?
[11:48] <schiste> I mean save your data
[11:48] <schiste> and then format it
[11:48] <ardchoille> holyguyver: How did you get the files on that 5 month old ext hd?
[11:48] <schiste> it would be the best thing to do
[11:49] <holyguyver> I saved them oonto it
[11:49] <schiste> arg
[11:49] <ardchoille> Yeah, I agree with schiste, back up the files and reformat
[11:49] <ardchoille> holyguyver: What did you use to save the files? Windows?
[11:50] <holyguyver> it is a simpletech simpledrive external harddrive, that I just bought 5 months ago. & yes I used windows :p
[11:50] <schiste> Hmmm ok we could do something weird and weirdly weird
[11:50] <ardchoille> holyguyver: Yeah, that's the problem.. you used a garbage OS.
[11:50] <schiste> but you could make two partition on your external drive
[11:50] <schiste> one with your data
[11:50] <ardchoille> holyguyver: Not your fault, tho
[11:50] <schiste> and format the secon one
[11:51] <schiste> and then back up your data on the second one and format the first one
[11:51] <schiste> omag that would be so weird
[11:51] <fawx> is there a way to make konquer play a video w/ asking whut  to open the video w/ all the time
[11:51] <fawx> ?
[11:51] <screwface> hello
[11:52] <holyguyver> it is 500GB I have used 200GB, my windows internal hhd is only 4GB (four) so how do I back up all of those files, other then that scary partisioning well the files are still on it option?
[11:52] <ardchoille> schiste: Now you're confusing me
[11:52] <ardchoille> lol
[11:52] <schiste> ardchoille:  :D
[11:52] <schiste> make two partition on his external drive
[11:52] <schiste> one with the data
[11:52] <schiste> the other one free
[11:52] <schiste> oh gosh nope
[11:52] <schiste> it could damage the data
[11:53] <ardchoille> Oh, shrink the first part, use the new space for a second part, transfer files from 1 to 2, reformat 1, then transfer back?
[11:53] <holyguyver> how can I transfer them if it won't let me even see them?
[11:53] <ardchoille> holyguyver: That's a good point
[11:53] <jeri> kubuntu drives me nuts,installation of packages are way beyond basic
[11:54] <Jesus_saves> jeri, isn't it identical to ubuntu?
[11:54] <holyguyver> if I do not have access to change them, then I can't move them nor copy them
[11:54] <ardchoille> holyguyver: What about using Windows for that?
[11:54] <jeri> if you've done something wrong your adept will suffer
[11:55] <holyguyver> how can I use windows to transfer them to an ex3 or whatever it is called :p
[11:55] <jeri> i dont know
[11:55] <jeri> theyre all the same maybe
[11:56] <Jesus_saves> holycow, you've made ext3?
[11:56] <holyguyver> but how did a 15 year old fs show up on a 5 month old main brand external hardrive?
[11:56] <jeri> damn it i have errors regarding the dpkg!
[11:56] <twylight> bats have enormous penises for their body size ._.
[11:57] <holyguyver> twylight pigs can have a two hour long orgasim :-p
[11:57] <Jesus_saves> holycow, because you are seeing ghosts
[11:57] <twylight> so can I ;)
[11:58] <ardchoille> !ops | twylight
[11:58] <ubotu> twylight: Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!
[11:58] <jpatrick> what's the emergency?
[11:58] <ardchoille> This is not the first time twylight has done that in this channel
[11:58] <jeri> how do i remove the last package dpkg process?
[11:59] <jpatrick> twylight: please behave
[12:00] <ardchoille> jpatrick: I guess I'l have to put twylight on my ignore list, he/she has been told about that before.
[12:00] <jeri> how do i remove the last package dpkg process?
[12:00] <bazhang> ardchoille: that means you can't see their comments, or thye can't pm you?
[12:00] <jpatrick> ardchoille: any more troulbe from him/her and I'll have to get messy again :(
[12:00] <jeri> can someone help?
[12:00] <twylight> sorry, meant to put that in another channel first off
[12:01] <bazhang> jeri: what's the problem?
[12:01] <twylight> second, I was tormenting my cat
[12:01] <ardchoille> bazhang: Well, with the type of comments he/she is making, they're not worth seeing
[12:01] <bazhang> ardchoille: so that's what it does? Thanks!
[12:01] <bazhang> hi jeri!
[12:01] <holyguyver> but how did a 15 year old fs show up on a 5 month old main brand external hardrive?
[12:02] <bazhang> Ms-dos?
[12:02] <Jesus_saves> it didn't
[12:02] <ardchoille> holyguyver: You used Windows? ;)
[12:02] <holyguyver> yes
[12:02] <ardchoille> holyguyver: Never trust a closed-source os
[12:02] <bazhang> ugh
[12:02] <holyguyver> It came preformatted
[12:02] <Jesus_saves> holycow, it didn't show up
[12:02] <Jesus_saves> holycow, it didn't show up
[12:02] <bazhang> Jesus_saves: what?
[12:03] <holyguyver> simpletechs simpledrive comes preformatted
[12:03] <jeri> i got this dpkg problem
[12:03] <jeri> bazhang
[12:03] <Jesus_saves> it's your perception or your intention that is clouding your output
[12:04] <holyguyver> so it did come with that sf, but it is brand new
[12:04] <Jesus_saves> God is about truth
[12:04] <bazhang> jeri: something won't update properly? try sudo dpkg --configure -a, followed by your password.
[12:04] <Jesus_saves> I'm a sinner but I know this
[12:04] <ardchoille> !ot | Jesus_saves
[12:04] <ubotu> Jesus_saves: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[12:04] <ardchoille> Sheesh, who let the infants in here?
[12:05] <bazhang> haha
[12:05] <bazhang> jeri: was that the problem?
[12:06] <jeri> my last dpkg session was interrupted
[12:06] <jeri> then now i cant install this java5 bin
[12:06] <twylight> speaking of java
[12:07] <twylight> I can't play runescape on kubuntu
[12:07] <jeri> damm im really broken hearted
[12:07] <jeri> i really need that to install limewire
[12:07] <schiste> have you tried a -fix broken ?
[12:07] <jeri> how?
[12:07] <schiste> Shoudl do the trick should't it?
[12:07] <bazhang> likely
[12:08] <schiste> hmmm sudo apt-get update -fix-broken
[12:08] <schiste> update or upgrade
[12:08] <schiste> I never remember ^^
[12:08] <schiste> update I think
[12:08] <mosiac> hello i just upgraded to 7.04 i believe and it seems to have messed up my resolution and im not sure how to fix it
[12:08] <voicu> hi, how do i manually mount an external drive connected through usb?
[12:09] <bazhang> schiste: upgrade, iirc
[12:09] <ardchoille> !adeptfix
[12:09] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[12:09] <voicu> and how could i find what partitions i have on it?
[12:09] <schiste> mwarf ok ^^
[12:09] <bazhang> voicu: mount in terminal
[12:09] <ardchoille> schiste: Check out voicu's question. De javu?
[12:09] <schiste> yeah
[12:09] <schiste> Dj vu indeed
[12:10] <schiste> !mount
[12:10] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[12:10] <schiste> yeah
[12:10] <schiste> good bot good bot
[12:10] <schiste> but you could give the commands!
[12:11] <holyguyver> yeah when I saw voicu 's question I giggled :p
[12:11] <ardchoille> hehe
[12:11] <voicu> bazhang: i know, but what is the device and how i mount different drives on it?
[12:12] <voicu> *do i
[12:12] <ardchoille> voicu: Do you know what file systemis on it?
[12:12] <voicu> well either fat32 or ntfs... i'll try them both
[12:12] <bazhang> voicu: the commant 'mnt' should do it iirc
[12:12] <bazhang> command, even
[12:12] <holyguyver> LoL
[12:12] <ardchoille> let's hope it's not HPFS/NTFS
[12:12] <voicu> mnt?
[12:13] <holyguyver> LoL LoL
[12:13] <voicu> i'm going to mount it readonly to be sure
[12:13] <bazhang> short for mount, I believe
[12:13] <voicu> XP doesn't recognise it, that's why i'm trying to mount it manually
[12:13] <voicu> what device is the usb?
[12:13] <holyguyver> well xp recognizes mine so :p
[12:13] <voicu> i tried /dev/bus/usb and it says it's not a block device
[12:13] <bazhang> voicu: you want a command for XP?
[12:14] <bazhang> does XP have a shell?
[12:14] <ardchoille> voicu: try /dev/sda1
[12:14] <schiste> bazhang: nope
[12:14] <holyguyver> LoL man I am gertting deja vu :-p
[12:14] <jeri> ubotu thx alot! that really help!
[12:14] <ardchoille> holyguyver: me too
[12:14] <holyguyver> !thanks
[12:14] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[12:14] <bazhang> haha
[12:14] <jeri> ?!?
[12:14] <voicu> xp can't handle something unless it works out of the box :P
[12:15] <bazhang> hehe
[12:15] <bazhang> vista, not so much
[12:15] <holyguyver> voicu is this external harddrive by any chance a simpledrive? :P
[12:16] <se7en^Of^9> vista doesn't handle anything in or out of the box
[12:16] <ardchoille> lol
[12:16] <schiste> troll
[12:16] <bazhang> hahahaha
[12:16] <mulander> se7en^Of^9: I disagree, vista handles malware out of the box :D
[12:16] <bazhang> I had to use Vista yesterday--shiver--
[12:16] <mulander> btw hi all
[12:16] <ardchoille> se7en^Of^9: Not true, Windows handles viruses, trojans, worms, etc quite well.
[12:16] <bazhang> Vista is malware..no kidding.
[12:16] <schiste> I'm using it nearly everyday :)
[12:16] <schiste> nope it's not
[12:17] <schiste> borring yes
[12:17] <schiste> annoying too
[12:17] <bazhang> !gunga din
[12:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gunga din - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:17] <schiste> but not that bad in the end
[12:17] <holyguyver> seven of nine, aren't you from startreck?
[12:17] <voicu> holyguyver: it's an external harddrive that can be connected on usb, lan or a tv plug (for slideshows or something)
[12:17] <bazhang> as compared to cholera?
[12:17] <ardchoille> bazhang: ??? This isn't #wikipedia, lol
[12:17] <se7en^Of^9> holyguyver: use to be ...
[12:17] <schiste> wikipedia sucks!
[12:17] <voicu> when i put connect it to usb and turn it on the light comes up but nothing else happens
[12:18] <bazhang> ardchoille: sorry! can I at least do the bot command for bug#1?
[12:18] <ardchoille> ok
[12:18] <mosiac> when i upgrade to 7.04 do i need to update my nvidia driver?
[12:18] <holyguyver> well then seven of nine you are one hot borg :-p
[12:18] <se7en^Of^9> :)
[12:18] <Jesus_saves> i've realized that if you appreciate the beauty of situation then you are automatically rational
[12:19] <ardchoille> mosiac: If you installed the nvidia driver via the package manager, it should upgrade for you
[12:19] <se7en^Of^9> a borg with no mounting problems :P
[12:19] <Jesus_saves> although i cannot
[12:19] <holyguyver> lol
[12:19] <mulander> mount self /dev/borg
[12:19] <mulander> :)
[12:19] <mulander> other way around but you get the idea :)
[12:19] <mosiac> ok lets say i didnt and im a retard which package do i need to install?
[12:20] <sille> hi all.  need quick assist w/ network settigns (spec. subetting).  Would someone help or refer me to where I may find info re appropriate settings.  THX
[12:20] <ardchoille> mosiac: That depends.
[12:20] <mosiac> legacy card
[12:20] <ardchoille> !nvidia | mosiac
[12:20] <ubotu> mosiac: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:20] <schiste> sille: be more specifiv please:)
[12:20] <sille> oops i meant subnet masking
[12:20] <mosiac> ok thanks
[12:21] <sille> ok.  i want 2 networks to remain completely seperate from each otehr
[12:21] <sille> one is my dual boot xp/linux pc
[12:21] <sille> the other is a 4 pc network
[12:21] <sille> i had been able to keeep the two from seeing eachother           befoer
[12:21] <drif> sille: you something like http://www.subnet-calculator.com/? or ubuntu-specific?
[12:22] <sille> inwidows by setting 2 different work groups.  the two did not see each otehr at all.
[12:22] <holyguyver> well anyway voiccu, your hardrive is not the same as mine, but we still haven't found a salution to mine's problem
[12:22] <holyguyver> coicu
[12:22] <holyguyver> viocu
[12:22] <feimao> !sound
[12:22] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[12:22] <sille> however, linux can see all teh pcs in my house.  hte only commonality is that they are sharing the same router
[12:23] <Jesus_saves> ubuntu is great... i don't need to do anything
[12:23] <bazhang> amen!
[12:23] <sille> drif-->  someone referred me to thsi calc.
[12:23] <Jesus_saves> ?
[12:23] <schiste> ubuntu sucks
[12:23] <sille> bottom line.  I don't really understand it.
[12:23] <schiste> kubuntu rocks
[12:23] <schiste> BIG difference :p
[12:23] <bazhang> ahaha
[12:24] <jpatrick> schiste: they both have the same base
[12:24] <dost> very big haha
[12:24] <sille> when i tried a manual setting on subnet, i could no longer connect to internet from router
[12:24] <schiste> jpatrick: are you really sure of that?
[12:24] <holyguyver> buntu is an okay distro :-p
[12:24] <jpatrick> schiste: well they both come from the same repos
[12:24] <schiste> No way!
[12:25] <holyguyver> I wonder what would happen if google released goobuntu, I wonder if googles popularity amongst youths would actually influince a massive os change :)
[12:25] <sille> if i am not using teh 192.*.*.* ip, my nic connected to the router will not connect to internet
[12:25] <schiste> this is an urban legend
[12:26] <schiste> and I don't think they'll release it soon
[12:26] <holyguyver> I don't think they would ever release it, it is internal
[12:26] <sille> however, when changed subnet mask from teh generic 255.255.255.0 to other, it did not work with teh ip range I               setmanually.
[12:27] <Jesus_saves> La la la la la, la la la la la
[12:27] <sille> anyone know sbnetting well enough to suggest a range of ip and matching subnet?
[12:28] <holyguyver> so have you guys figured out how did a 15 year old fs show up preinstalled on a 5 month old main brand external hardrive?
[12:28] <Jesus_saves> sille, ...
[12:28] <sille> yes jesus?
[12:29] <Jesus_saves> i'm not jesus
[12:29] <sille> mmm k jesus_saves.....
[12:30] <holyguyver> if you combine Jesus-Saves & myself you get one spiritual/holy guy :-p
[12:31] <Jesus_saves> sille, check the ranges of ip's for local addresses(if i recall correctly, the term) and note that 255.255.255.0 is class C subnet.
[12:31] <fc__> problem: i cant remove an menu entry from the applications list
[12:31] <fc__> specifically, i cant remove a wine entry from the list
[12:31] <fc__> can anyone help me please?
[12:32] <Jesus_saves> sille, so maybe you want class C local address for your host
[12:32] <r2d2> hello folks'
[12:32] <Jesus_saves> i meant subnet mask... srry i have a habit of being inaccurate
[12:33] <r2d2> does anyone kan help me to setup up a webserver to work with php in ubunto??
[12:33] <pag> !lamp | r2d2
[12:33] <ubotu> r2d2: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[12:33] <r2d2> lamp?
[12:33] <holyguyver> !ignored
[12:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ignored - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:33] <sille> actually, i just want to make sure that my two seperate networks are not able to see ea other.  i was successful in doing this by creating two different work groups.  In windows, they are blind to ea other.  However, linux sees all...
[12:34] <holyguyver> Ignore
[12:34] <pag> r2d2, see the link ubotu gave you. :)
[12:34] <holyguyver> crap I meant an ! before that :p
[12:34] <holyguyver> sorry I am talking to no one
[12:34] <njende> with which kernel comes gutsy?
[12:34] <r2d2> yes.
[12:34] <sille> i was told by another here earlier that i would have             toset a differen subment mask for the two not to see ea otehr when linux booted.
[12:34] <holyguyver> just herasing the bot
[12:34] <r2d2> thanks! :)
[12:34] <holyguyver> !ignore
[12:34] <ubotu> If you really don't wish to see the messages from a particular person on IRC, you can use /ignore nickname
[12:35] <Jesus_saves> La la la la la, la la la la la
[12:35] <holyguyver> anyway ardchoillie schiste how did a 15 year old fs show up preinstalled on a 5 month old main brand external hardrive?
[12:36] <schiste> I really dunno
[12:36] <njende> hi folks!
[12:36] <Jesus_saves> holyguyver, it didn't
[12:36] <sille> all my pcs are sharing 1 router for internet and for sharing purposes.
[12:36] <holyguyver> Jesus_Saves, yes it did, the simpledrive comes preformatted
[12:37] <njende> can anyone tell me in here with which kernel gutsy comes along?
[12:37] <Jesus_saves> holyguyver, no
[12:37] <holyguyver> Yes
[12:37] <Jesus_saves> holyguyver, your perception or your intention
[12:37] <holyguyver> truth, look up it's spexs
[12:37] <Jesus_saves> holyguyver, anywayz i have a question for you: when is it appropriate to think unclearly?
[12:38] <holyguyver> you are obviously a troll
[12:38] <Jesus_saves> no, i'm serious
[12:39] <holyguyver> I am thinking clearlyu, & truky look at it's spex if you don't believe me
[12:39] <Jesus_saves> oh, so when there is no consequence, i am free to think unclearly
[12:39] <Jesus_saves> and since human beings like to be unburdened, when there is no consequence we should think unclearly
[12:40] <holyguyver> alright this man is a cuckoo
[12:40] <Jesus_saves> i don't understand
[12:40] <holyguyver> exactly :p
[12:40] <Jesus_saves> ok
[12:41] <holyguyver> anyway schiste, can you please stick on this problem with me a little bit long, I would really like to see if we can clear it up
[12:43] <holyguyver> now we know it came preformatted, & it said on the box preformatted with ntfs, it said it would work instantly on xp & that with mac all you would have to do is reformat it, indeed the same goes for linux, however 200GB is a lot of DVD's worth of backup
[12:44] <Jesus_saves> holyguyver, you need to backup before you reformat?
[12:45] <holyguyver> I wasn't talking to you Jesus
[12:45] <Jesus_saves> i'm not jesus
[12:46] <Jesus_saves> ppl just don't understand that there is an advantage of being irrational sometimes
[12:46] <holyguyver> so schiste, do you really think that it is the fs that it says it is or do you think that my ntfs-3g is messing with it & I should uninstall that?
[12:47] <Jesus_saves> (if you appreciate the beauty of a situation then you are automatically rational)
[12:49] <Jesus_saves> you know i have like 20 years of my life
[12:49] <Jesus_saves> i want to do good to my parents
[12:50] <Jesus_saves> sincerely deep in my heart
[12:50] <holyguyver> !troll
[12:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about troll - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:50] <holyguyver> !flood
[12:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:51] <Jesus_saves> !tail
[12:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tail - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:51] <holyguyver> bible!
[12:54] <holyguyver> well anyone new out there for feels like helping me with my problem?
[12:55] <holyguyver> Am I alone?
[12:56] <holyguyver> echo echo echo
[12:56] <bazhang> no
[12:56] <bazhang> heya!
[12:56] <holyguyver> thank goodness :p
[12:57] <holyguyver> so how are you bazhang?
[12:57] <bazhang> holyguyver: great--got Gutsy?
[12:57] <holyguyver> nope Fiesty, why?
[12:59] <holyguyver> bazhang
[12:59] <bazhang> hey
[01:00] <bazhang> just curious--Gutsy is really stable--much more so for me than Feisty ever was. The amount of care put into this (yet only beta) is unreal...
[01:01] <holyguyver> yeah, I sometimes have thoughts of going baack to dapper
[01:01] <holyguyver> !dapper
[01:01] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu.  Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".
[01:02] <holyguyver> !Gutsy
[01:02] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[01:02] <holyguyver> !fiesty
[01:02] <ubotu> It is spelt "FEIsty" :)
[01:02] <holyguyver> :-p LoL
[01:03] <holyguyver> !feisty
[01:03] <ubotu> Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Kubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[01:03] <Jesus_saves> holyguyver, do you like me?
[01:03] <holyguyver> Jesus_saves, no I don't
[01:03] <bazhang> ouch
[01:05] <holyguyver> Bazhang, do you think gutsy would help me with my hardrive problems?
[01:06] <bazhang> holyguyver: what problems are those?
[01:08] <holyguyver> my hardrive is a hpfs/ntfs & I cannot/won't reformat it, & I have ntfs-3g installed so kubuntu should be able to read it, & it can, but for some reasion it mounted in rwx ro instead of rw
[01:08] <bazhang> holyguyver: which means?
[01:08] <bazhang> can't write?
[01:09] <holyguyver> iot won't let me see or change anything
[01:09] <holyguyver> wont even let me see
[01:09] <holyguyver> it says I do not have permission to see
[01:09] <bazhang> holyguyver: dual boot?
[01:09] <holyguyver> no
[01:09] <holyguyver> external
[01:09] <bazhang> holyguyver: just a storage drive then...
[01:09] <holyguyver> yes
[01:10] <bazhang> holyguyver: what file system?
[01:10] <bazhang> ntfs?
[01:10] <holyguyver> I already said hpsf/ntfs
[01:10] <holyguyver> they said it is a 15 year old file system
[01:10] <bazhang> sorry, just woke from a nap...
[01:13] <holyguyver> :p @ seven
[01:13] <holyguyver> bazhang http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HPFS
[01:14] <bazhang> holyguyver: thanks; no clue as to a solution--perhaps ubuntu forums, or #hpfs?
[01:15] <se7en^Of^9> holyguyver: ls -l /your/usb/  ...
[01:16] <holyguyver> did that about 6 hours ago
[01:16] <se7en^Of^9> and rwxrwxr x ?
[01:17] <holyguyver> it mounted to rwx ro
[01:19] <Jesus_saves> i remember last rugby worldcup(not the running one) johnny wilkinson of england was like a machine
[01:19] <Jesus_saves> he hardly ever missed
[01:20] <ardchoille> !ot | Jesus_saves
[01:20] <ubotu> Jesus_saves: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[01:21] <Jesus_saves> i'm sure someday i will meet a decent wise girl who genuinely loves me
[01:22] <holyguyver> so se7en^Of^9 any idea?
[01:22] <Jesus_saves> because by that time i will be competent
[01:22] <bazhang> Jesus_saves: pushing the limits...
[01:23] <ardchoille> bazhang: It's either a bot or he doesn't care if he gets kicked.
[01:23] <bazhang> ardchoille: there are bots? Wow.
[01:24] <holyguyver> bazhang there is no #hpfs
[01:24] <alesan> hi
[01:24] <bazhang> holyguyver: I was joshing, sorry.
[01:24] <bazhang> hi alesan!
[01:25] <alesan> is there any source for the win32 codecs (for mplayer) in kubuntu? it seems I cannot find them in adept
[01:25] <ardchoille> alesan: Are you logged in as root?
[01:25] <ardchoille> !seveas | alesan
[01:25] <ubotu> alesan: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - And he's getting married!
[01:27] <Jesus_saves> ardchoille, i'm definitely not a bot if i write a bot
[01:27] <Jesus_saves> even if i write a bot that writes a bot
[01:29] <holyguyver> Jesus_Saves I have seen lots of yahoo bots & jabberwacky write the phraise "A bot"
[01:30] <holyguyver> well I mean Frank_Ribery :-p
[01:30] <alesan> ardchoille: it seems I misconfigured konversation. it should run as a normal user, damn.
[01:31] <holyguyver> ardchoille you never answered me, should I try uninstalling ntfs-3g & see if it will mount right then?
[01:32] <ardchoille> holyguyver: I don't know anything about ntfs.. I haven't touched Windows os since 2001
[01:32] <holyguyver> ntfs-3g is a linux driver for ntfs
[01:32] <ardchoille> Well, I have no need for it then
[01:32] <holyguyver> but I do :-p
[01:33] <ardchoille> Well, you already know more about it than I do
[01:33] <kreib> !wmv
[01:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:33] <holyguyver> so you are suggesting that my suggestion of uninstalling it & seeing if that might help, may be educated advise?
[01:34] <ardchoille> holyguyver: When it comes to ntfs, you're on your own I'm afraid.
[01:35] <holyguyver> well as said it may not be ntfs, it my be hpfs
[01:37] <holyguyver> which from you saying "not since 2001" that means yo7u have touched it (hpfs) :-p
[01:38] <bazhang> holyguyver: do you have a Windows box you can boot from?
[01:38] <holyguyver> yes
[01:38] <ardchoille> holyguyver: The only file system I have dealt with since 2001 is ext3.
[01:38] <ardchoille> Well, ext2/ext3
[01:38] <holyguyver> no I meant before 2001
[01:39] <bazhang> holyguyver: then boot with installed, burn to drive, reattach to linux box, install Gutsy, and Bob's your uncle!
[01:39] <slackern> I have dualboot on this machine, i usually just install ntfs-3g and ntfs-config then i tell ntfs-config to enable everything for rw bla bla and it just works
[01:39] <holyguyver> hey slackern thanks :D
[01:39] <slackern> but using 7.10 right now and then it just worked for my 2 ntfs partitions
[01:39] <bazhang> slackern: thanks!
[01:39] <slackern> hope it works just as easy as it did for me
[01:39] <holyguyver> so are you saying that I should upgrade from feisty?
[01:40] <slackern> Nah not really it should work fine there too
[01:40] <holyguyver> so you are saying I need to configure the ntfs config?
[01:40] <slackern> let me check quickly on the tool, been a couple of months ago since i used it
[01:41] <holyguyver> every time I try & use ntfs conig nothing starts, it seems like a dead menu item
[01:41] <slackern> holyguyver: it should give you a little simple window with like 2 buttons
[01:42] <holyguyver> nope, gives me nothing
[01:42] <slackern> installing it now here too just to try
[01:43] <slackern> 'sudo ntfs-config' started it for me, but hmm maybe it could be something that im in gnome right now
[01:43] <holyguyver> when I enter gksu ntfs-config it says could not run spacific cammand
[01:43] <slackern> oh is it installed?
[01:43] <slackern> 'sudo apt-get install ntfs-config'
[01:43] <holyguyver> O well then I guess I will have to change the cammand it gave it when it installed
[01:45] <redlex> Hi people
[01:45] <holyguyver> when I sudo apt-get install ntfs-config   ed it I got this E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:46] <slackern> holyguyver: then there is another instance of maybe (adept/apt-get /aptitude/something) running
[01:46] <holyguyver> O yes there is, oops sorry :p
[01:46] <slackern> ^^
[01:47] <slackern> holyguyver: btw just for reference is is just an internal drive or external + internal drive with ntfs?
[01:47] <holyguyver> external
[01:47] <holyguyver> & it told me that it was already installed in it's newset version
[01:48] <holyguyver> ntfs-config that is
[01:49] <slackern> holyguyver: hmm thats odd, it should just work then, i could log into kde and check where it is
[01:49] <slackern> i'll brb
[01:51] <slackern> holyguyver: I see it in the menu under system and then i got NTFS Configuration Tool
[01:51] <holyguyver> Yes me, too but it was a dead link, however I just using your advise that you gave earlier fixed it like I said I would
[01:52] <slackern> ahh so it's working now?
[01:52] <holyguyver> but I only fixed that linkl, still need to fix that drive
[01:52] <slackern> oh
[01:53] <holyguyver> so no not yet, but you have helped me get closer :D
[01:54] <holyguyver> so now it automaticly mounts which is amazing, but it still says that I do not have access rights to it.
[01:55] <Capt_Carrot> i always take the cheap way out and chown the mount directory :)
[01:55] <deviance|dead> What are some good repositorues to get up to date games from? I need nexuiz 2.3
[01:55] <Capt_Carrot> you may have to roll your own on that one
[01:55] <deviance|dead> Damn
[01:56] <deviance|dead> Are there any good reposioties for games?
[01:56] <Capt_Carrot> none that i'm aware of, no
[01:58] <Ahmuck> !source
[01:58] <ubotu> You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[01:58] <fc__> how do i remove a link to a wine application that has moved?
[01:58] <Ahmuck> !build
[01:58] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:58] <holyguyver> slackern
[01:58] <slackern> holyguyver: mm
[01:58] <Ahmuck> !gcc
[01:58] <Ahmuck> !configure
[01:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about configure - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:58] <holyguyver> I wish to show youa pastbin
[01:59] <slackern> holyguyver: sure i can have a look, not sure if it helps or not but i'll look :)
[01:59] <Capt_Carrot> apparently gutsy got 2.3 but it was never moved into feisty-backports
[01:59] <fc__> how do i remove a link to a wine application that has moved? deleting the entry from the edit menu's option doesnt work! help please!
[02:00] <holyguyver> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39850/
[02:01] <Capt_Carrot> deviance|dead: 2.3 is up over at getdeb, though i hesitate to recommend it sometimes...
[02:01] <slackern> holyguyver: hmm looks like it should start, those errors are just for those odd input thingys that they have extra in xorg.conf
[02:02] <holyguyver> I does start & I switched it to external, but as said it still won't let me read nor write to it
[02:02] <deviance|dead> Capt_Carrot: I found a repo for get deb the other day, but when I did a full upgrade it removed kubuntu desktop package
[02:02] <Capt_Carrot> nono
[02:03] <Capt_Carrot> just download the required packages from the site
[02:03] <Capt_Carrot> and kubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage
[02:03] <deviance|dead> I know you can but I had alot fo software to update
[02:03] <deviance|dead> I figured Capt_Carrot! :P
[02:03] <deviance|dead> Gotta restart x
[02:03] <deviance|dead> one sec
[02:08] <holyguyver> so slackern any ideo how I can get it to give me access to it?
[02:09] <slackern> holyguyver: hmm i never had that kind of problem with it not even showing up, so not sure where to start trying to fix it really
[02:09] <slackern> holyguyver: usually starting things from a terminal gives some useful information about those problems but well not this time =/
[02:10] <holyguyver> Well would it help if you knew all of the ntfs drivers & stuff I have installed? maybe it is a drive conflict
[02:11] <charlie5> hi all ... does anyone know how to disable an external usb hardrive from powering itself down (or whatever else it might be which causes it to unmount itself every five or so minuste) ?
[02:12] <holyguyver> Hey ardchoille it is a deja vu again :-p
[02:12] <holyguyver> schiste look :-p
[02:15] <zsz> I have no sound. Sound card is detected, the kernel module is loaded, sound channels are not muted, headphones are connected properly and work with mp3 player. alsa-tools, alsa-oss, alsa-utils and alsa-base are installed. How to enable sound?
[02:16] <kreib> !flash
[02:16] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[02:16] <zsz> I mean the headphones work with a separate mp3 player
[02:16] <zsz> like ipod
[02:20] <holyguyver> slackern in the list I saw that I was missing one lib for it, so I am installing that now to see if that helps
[02:21] <slackern> holyguyver: make a backup of your /etc/fstab also
[02:22] <holyguyver> my what?
[02:22] <slackern> holyguyver: /etc/fstab file contains information about how to mount your disks and such, just in case it gets changed and breaks or something
[02:23] <holyguyver> shouldn't I have done that last week when I originally installed ntfs03g?
[02:23] <holyguyver> ntfs-3g*
[02:24] <slackern> holyguyver: well it's usually not needed but it always nice in case something breaks :)
[02:25] <slackern> holyguyver: can save some tears, then it's just too boot up a ubuntu disk, mount partitions and move the file back and it's back up and running :)
[02:38] <robinson> morning, all
[02:38] <bazhang> morning!
[02:39] <ardchoille> holyguyver , schiste: What? Was there a sale on those usb hard drives recently?? lol
[02:39] <bazhang> hahaha
[02:40] <robinson> I need to know how to set my default wireless network using KNetworkManager. I have two networks in my home, one public, one encrypted. I have moved the public one to "untrusted" but tat is the one it connects to everytime i turn on my laptop
[02:41] <holyguyver> Actually yes there was, back 5 months ago, 500GB for 200$
[02:42] <ardchoille> holyguyver: I'm beginning to see why they were so cheap ;)
[02:42] <jpatrick> !wifi | robinson
[02:42] <ubotu> robinson: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:44] <robinson> my connection dropped for a sec, did anyone answer yet?
[02:44] <bazhang> !wifi
[02:44] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:51] <hsystem-x> !lock apt
[02:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lock apt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:51] <ghozala> bazhang: hi
[02:52] <hsystem-x> !apt
[02:52] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[02:52] <hsystem-x> !dpkg
[02:52] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[02:53] <pag> !aptfix | hsystem-x, are you looking for this?:
[02:53] <ubotu> hsystem-x, are you looking for this?:: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[02:53] <ghozala> bazhang: i ve tried the compiz-fusion on system it is runing very good with fiesty
[02:53] <hsystem-x> thx man , yes
[02:54] <pag> yw :)
[02:55] <bazhang> ghozala: yes!
[02:58] <Nolo> my display setting are out of wack...can you give me a link on what to do to fix them?
[03:01] <ghozala> hay help!!!!! which voice plugin i use for kopete konference or gnomemeeting
[03:03] <Nolo> help what do I key in to terinal to reset the display refresh rate to maximum?
[03:04] <kduser^> Hey..
[03:05] <kduser^> will any problems arise if i burn a cdimage on to a dvd ?
[03:05] <hsystem-x> no
[03:06] <hsystem-x> kduser, it is the same..
[03:06] <kduser^> an os image
[03:06] <bazhang> no problem.
[03:06] <kduser^> since I only have dvd`s and no cds at the moment
[03:06] <hsystem-x> yes, it will boot, like a normal cd, no prob. The only thing you need is a DVD reader...
[03:06] <hsystem-x> sooo i guess you have one.
[03:07] <kduser^> I use kubuntu edgy and my sound card is not working.. I installed alsa driver the latest one by compiling from source
[03:07] <kduser^> how do I see my soundcard name /
[03:07] <kduser^> its a lenovo laptop 3000  N100
[03:08] <hsystem-x> type in termina: lspci
[03:08] <hsystem-x> terminal*, there you should see all your devices.
[03:08] <kduser^> Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[03:09] <kduser^> is this card supported by the kernel in edgy ? 2.6.17
[03:10] <hsystem-x> !souncards
[03:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about souncards - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:10] <hsystem-x> !soundcards
[03:10] <kduser^> okay.. I`ll reboot and try I just upgraded  my kernel
[03:10] <hsystem-x> !sound
[03:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about soundcards - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:11] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:11] <kduser^> thanks.. :)
[03:11] <bazhang> ubotu?
[03:17] <Nolo> how do I uninstall kubuntu and remove it from grub?
[03:18] <hsystem-x> uninstall it? just format or remove the partitions.
[03:18] <farouk> hi every one
[03:19] <farouk> can you help me in somthing
[03:19] <nosrednaekim> hey farouk
[03:19] <nosrednaekim> whats the problem
[03:19] <farouk> hi good that there is somebody to answer me
[03:19] <farouk> i want to play rmvb files
[03:19] <nosrednaekim> its sunday and its early ;)
[03:19] <farouk> that's the problem
[03:20] <farouk> hhhhhhhhh
[03:20] <nosrednaekim> no... thats the second problem ;)
[03:20] <farouk> early how ????????????
[03:20] <farouk> wwhy it's the second
[03:20] <nosrednaekim> its early in the morning in the US where most of these people are from
[03:20] <Nolo> i have a couple of versions of kubuntu on my computer, so how do I remove them so i can do a clean install
[03:20] <ghozala> hay how can i install .tar.gz extentions
[03:20] <farouk> oh isee
[03:21] <farouk> acutally  don't know
[03:21] <farouk> i am new to the wholle thing
[03:21] <farouk> but
[03:21] <farouk> i think adept manager
[03:21] <farouk> will help
[03:21] <nosrednaekim> !source | ghozala
[03:21] <ubotu> ghozala: You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[03:21] <nosrednaekim> farouk: what does a rmvb file do?
[03:22] <Nolo> right...except that my display settinga are out of sync and I cant see shyte
[03:22] <ardchoille> Nolo: How do yo have a couple versions of kubuntu?
[03:22] <farouk> rmvb file it's a media file exinsion
[03:22] <Nolo> it did an upgrade and just added the newer version onto grub
[03:22] <ardchoille> Nolo: Do you mean you've upgraded?
[03:22] <nosrednaekim> farouk: then I would get "libxine-extracodecs" from adept and see if that fixes it
[03:22] <Nolo> yes.
[03:23] <holyguyver> how do I mount a drive again?
[03:23] <farouk> maybe
[03:23] <NightBird> Nolo: oh, you can uninstall the older kernel versions
[03:23] <jermain> hi everyone!
[03:23] <farouk> hi
[03:23] <Nolo> nightbird....how???
[03:23] <ardchoille> Nolo: Ok, then you don't have a couple of versions, you simply have your current version. As for the kernels, you can leave them, it does no harm. Or you can uninstall previous kernels.
[03:23] <NightBird> Open up adept, search for kernel image, and remove the older versions
[03:23] <farouk> i told you i am new to the whole thing and i still searching for the proper programs for me
[03:23] <ardchoille> !kernel
[03:23] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild.  Also, see !stages
[03:23] <nosrednaekim> farouk: get that package..
[03:24] <Nolo> right, but my display setting are out of sync and I cant see shyte to do that
[03:24] <holyguyver> ardchoille how do I mount a drive again?
[03:24] <fay_elf> Actually you could edit /boot/grub
[03:24] <farouk> ok
[03:24] <ardchoille> holyguyver: sudo mount /<device> /<mount_point>
[03:24] <holyguyver> thanks :)
[03:24] <ardchoille> yw
[03:24] <NightBird> er... search for linux-image, it will get you too it faster
[03:24] <fay_elf> Menu.cfg
[03:25] <Nolo> first and foremost....my display settings are shyte now....and I cant even see the log-in
[03:25] <fay_elf> Knowing that file is very useful
[03:25] <Nolo> I asked for help....but no one answered....
[03:26] <ardchoille> !display | Nolo
[03:26] <ubotu> Nolo: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:26] <Nolo> thanks....
[03:26] <ardchoille> yw
[03:26] <NightBird> what's the problem with it Nolo?
[03:26] <farouk> so could anyone tell me how to play rmvb files
[03:27] <ardchoille> farouk: Is it a real media file?
[03:27] <bazhang> vlc?
[03:27] <farouk> yeah
[03:27] <ardchoille> !realmedia
[03:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about realmedia - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:27] <bazhang> realplayer?
[03:27] <nosrednaekim> farouk: I just told you!
[03:27] <jermain> vlc plays about anything ive encountered
[03:27] <farouk> told me what
[03:27] <ardchoille> !real
[03:27] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:27] <nosrednaekim> to get the package "libxine-extracodecs" in adept.
[03:27] <fay_elf> Oh and did you guys know that you can have a background in the grub boot screen?
[03:27] <farouk> so is vlc in thhe adept
[03:28] <farouk> oh oh
[03:28] <bazhang> farouk: yes
[03:28] <RiverGate> yes it is
[03:28] <nosrednaekim> fay_elf: yep :) Ubuntu sets it up kinda plain.
[03:28] <holyguyver> so how do I mount that spacific harddrive again?
[03:28] <farouk> ok thank you every one
[03:28] <bazhang> no problem
[03:28] <ardchoille> holyguyver: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1
[03:29] <fay_elf> That's a good way to begin with GIMP
[03:29] <farouk> so see you next time because i had to study now
[03:29] <holyguyver> now it is saying mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist
[03:29] <RiverGate> try sda2
[03:29] <ardchoille> holyguyver: Did you unplug it?
[03:30] <holyguyver> yes
[03:30] <holyguyver> & replugge dit
[03:30] <RiverGate> try sda2
[03:30] <ardchoille> holyguyver: See what it says in the disks gui
[03:30] <RiverGate> you prolly didnt safely unplug
[03:30] <holyguyver> I did, & it is the same as it was before
[03:30] <RiverGate> hmm..
[03:31] <ardchoille> RiverGate: This hd has been problematic.. to say the least
[03:31] <RiverGate> ic :/
[03:31] <RiverGate> what kinds of sda do you see when you do "ls /dev"?
[03:32] <RiverGate> or "ls /dev | less"
[03:32] <holyguyver> typing in ls dev does nothing, I think you did not type in fully what I am supposed to type in
[03:32] <RiverGate> argh
[03:32] <RiverGate> wait ill open console
[03:33] <holyguyver> when I typed in ls /dev|less it said END
[03:33] <nosrednaekim> there is no need to pipe ls through less ;)
[03:34] <nosrednaekim> less is for reading files
[03:34] <RiverGate> :o
[03:34] <RiverGate> i like to scroll around with the arrow buttons :)
[03:34] <holyguyver> now concel will not work because it says something about pty
[03:34] <RiverGate> holyguyver: you didnt use the spaces
[03:34] <RiverGate> wth?
[03:35] <fay_elf> ls /dev/sda*
[03:35] <holyguyver> Konsole is unable to open a PTY (pseudo teletype). It is likely that this is due to an incorrect configuration of the PTY devices. Konsole needs to have read/write access to the PTY devices.
[03:35] <RiverGate> whoa
[03:35] <ardchoille> holyguyver: hit the "q" key
[03:35] <RiverGate> i concede to your hd
[03:35] <bazhang> haha
[03:36] <ardchoille> hehe
[03:36] <ardchoille> holyguyver: That's another one slapped :)
[03:36] <RiverGate> lol
[03:36] <bazhang> or as my japanese wii says: game setto!
[03:36] <ardchoille> lol
[03:36] <holyguyver> when I hit q nothing happens
[03:36] <holyguyver> now he just broke my termanol :(
[03:37] <ardchoille> it's not broke
[03:37] <holyguyver> how do I fix it
[03:37] <ardchoille> launch another terminal :)
[03:37] <RiverGate> where are the good ol' times when people asked "how do i move a file in bash?"
[03:37] <ardchoille> quit that one
[03:37] <ardchoille> RiverGate: Long gone
[03:37] <bazhang> holyguyver: some hours backs, I suggested you connect this to a Windows box and then mount it in XP (or whatever), copy over the files, then put it on you Linux box--any reason not to try that?
[03:37] <holyguyver> I have done that 8 times & it keeps on saying Konsole is unable to open a PTY (pseudo teletype). It is likely that this is due to an incorrect configuration of the PTY devices. Konsole needs to have read/write access to the PTY devices.
[03:38] <ardchoille> "the screen says to insert floppy # 3, but I can only get two in there at a time"
[03:38] <ardchoille> RiverGate: ^^
[03:38] <RiverGate> :p
[03:38] <holyguyver> because my xp only has a 4(four)gb hard drive & I need to transfer 200GB
[03:38] <RiverGate> i'll just sit here quitly and learn from you guys
[03:38] <ardchoille> lol
[03:38] <ardchoille> holyguyver: What is taking up 200Gb ?
[03:39] <holyguyver> my files
[03:39] <RiverGate> 18+
[03:39] <bazhang> holyguyver: and you never backed any of that up?
[03:39] <holyguyver> music, vidfeos & porn :p
[03:39] <holyguyver> nope not yet :p
[03:39] <ardchoille> holyguyver: backups are your friends :)
[03:39] <holyguyver> now how do I fix my termanol?
[03:40] <ardchoille> holyguyver: ctrl+c  ?
[03:40] <hsystem-x> ohh yeah loving gutsy gibbon and the new wireless drivers :D
[03:40] <bazhang> terminal what?
[03:40] <nosrednaekim> hsystem-x: which ones?
[03:40] <lucarrrr> hello
[03:40] <bazhang> hsystem-x: it's sweet right?
[03:40] <lucarrrr> i just installed kubuntu
[03:40] <RiverGate> hsystem new wireless drivers?
[03:40] <hsystem-x> yes...
[03:40] <bazhang> hello lucarrrr!
[03:40] <lucarrrr> i am completely new to ubuntu
[03:40] <RiverGate> !!
[03:40] <hsystem-x> so much improvements.
[03:40] <holyguyver> cntr+c did nothing
[03:40] <nosrednaekim> hello lucarrrr:)
[03:40] <lucarrrr> having used only red hat till now
[03:40] <bazhang> lucarrrr: welcome!
[03:40] <lucarrrr> how to installa kdevelop?
[03:40] <lucarrrr> install
[03:40] <RiverGate> lucarrr wecome to a better world!
[03:41] <hsystem-x> no, i want to install kde 4, does anybody of you have done that?
[03:41] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install kdevelop from the terminal.
[03:41] <nosrednaekim> lucarrrr: go into adept, the package manager.
[03:41] <ardchoille> holyguyver: What is your terminal doing?
[03:41] <holyguyver> Konsole is unable to open a PTY (pseudo teletype). It is likely that this is due to an incorrect configuration of the PTY devices. Konsole needs to have read/write access to the PTY devices.
[03:41] <bazhang> hsystem-x: unusable.
[03:41] <lucarrrr> already done
[03:41] <lucarrrr> kdevelop doesn't apper
[03:41] <hsystem-x> unusable?
[03:41] <lucarrrr> in the list of installable packages
[03:41] <bazhang> hsystem-x: yep
[03:41] <lucarrrr> which is the main package repository
[03:41] <nosrednaekim> lucarrrr: do a "sudo apt-get update" do update your package lists
[03:42] <holyguyver> it says that from the second it pops up & when I hit "OK" it closes
[03:42] <bazhang> lucarrrr: from my apt-cache search kdevelop: kdevelop - An IDE for Unix/X11
[03:42] <RiverGate> ooh i got a question: in a unix script i want a user to define a variable
[03:42] <RiverGate> how do i do that?
[03:42] <nosrednaekim> RiverGate: you mean a bash script?
[03:42] <RiverGate> yes
[03:43] <holyguyver> ravergate I have a question, why did you break my bash?
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> lucarrrr: if you are on dapper, you may need to enable some repositories
[03:43] <hsystem-x> hahah
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> !repositories
[03:43] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:43] <RiverGate> holy its a simple command to list items in a dir
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> hsystem-x: wait for beta 3 to use KDE4
[03:43] <holyguyver> well it broke bash
[03:43] <hsystem-x> .
[03:43] <RiverGate> i dont know how it could 'break' your bash
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> hsystem-x: right now it has no panel ;)
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> RiverGate: eh.. I once uninstalled it in Suse
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> =)
[03:44] <hsystem-x> ok :),
[03:44] <holyguyver> well it did, now all people can do is pty me
[03:44] <RiverGate> nosrednaekim :p
[03:44] <steffen> hello^
[03:44] <bazhang> heya steffen
[03:44] <steffen> hi i am new here
[03:45] <RiverGate> holy, the line i made you type equivelent to clicking a map to see what files are in it
[03:45] <bazhang> steffen: what's your question?
[03:45] <RiverGate> im not gonna claim its not because of my line
[03:45] <holyguyver> rivergate, you have now been dubbed the bashbreaker the termanol termanator the konsol killer :-p
[03:45] <RiverGate> AAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaargh
[03:45] <lucarrrr> where can i find a comprensive list
[03:45] <steffen> where do you come from
[03:45] <lucarrrr> of the main and better repositories?
[03:45] <RiverGate> All your bash are belong to us!
[03:45] <bazhang> !ot
[03:45] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:46] <hsystem-x> .
[03:46] <bazhang> not you RiverGate
[03:46] <RiverGate> oh lol :p so how do i get a user to define a variable in a bash script?
[03:47] <ardchoille> RiverGate: read ?
[03:47] <stdin> RiverGate: #bash is the place to ask
[03:47] <RiverGate> argh, ofcourse
[03:47] <bazhang> lucarrrr: kubuntu will find the repositories for you automatically, based on what you entered in timezone info.
[03:47] <RiverGate> on my way :p
[03:47] <bazhang> hi stdin
[03:47] <stdin> hi
[03:47] <holyguyver> so how do I fix konsal?
[03:49] <holyguyver> ardchoille, you read the problem, how do I fix it? :'(
[03:49] <ardchoille> holyguyver: I've never seen that problem. usually "q" or ctrl+c quits whatever is being run in term
[03:50] <ardchoille> holyguyver: You're saying that anytime you launch konsole now it shows that msg and quits?
[03:50] <holyguyver> as said it closes when I hit ok, but then when I repoen it it says it again
[03:50] <wathek> hello all
[03:50] <holyguyver> yes
[03:50] <bazhang> hi!
[03:50] <wathek> is there any way to read the ram or rm files of some radio straming ?
[03:50] <holyguyver> yes it does that any time >I start it
[03:50] <wathek> with amarok ?
[03:50] <RiverGate> #bash has 309 non responsive people 8/
[03:50] <bazhang> haha
[03:50] <ardchoille> RiverGate: lol
[03:50] <lucarrrr> nothing
[03:50] <RiverGate> nvm sm1s alive
[03:51] <bazhang> kind of like here, only fewer.
[03:51] <lucarrrr> i have dependencies problems
[03:51] <lucarrrr> it refuses to install kdevelop
[03:51] <ardchoille> lucarrrr: With what?
[03:51] <holyguyver> so what is pty?
[03:51] <ardchoille> lucarrrr: How are you installing it?
[03:51] <lucarrrr> a lot of stuff
[03:51] <lucarrrr> libstdc++
[03:51] <lucarrrr> and libc
[03:51] <lucarrrr> apt-get install kdevelop
[03:52] <stdin> holyguyver: "man pty"
[03:52] <stdin> lucarrrr: use the pastebin to post the errors
[03:52] <ardchoille> lucarrrr: Are you running Gutsy?
[03:53] <lucarrrr> how do i see which version am i a running?
[03:53] <lucarrrr> it should be 6 something
[03:53] <lucarrrr> but i don't know for sure
[03:53] <stdin> !version
[03:53] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[03:53] <lucarrrr> i don't have the installation cd here
[03:53] <ardchoille> lucarrrr: Look at what ubotu just posted
[03:53] <ardchoille> stdin: Thanks
[03:54] <lucarrrr> edgy 6.10
[03:54] <frank_> anyone else experience this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/knetworkmanager/+bug/149869
[03:54] <frank_> Knetworkmanager says no active device in kubuntu gutsy
[03:55] <frank_> gtg
[03:55] <NightBird> frank_: gutsy support in #ubuntu+1
[03:55] <frank_> NightBird: ok
[03:56] <contrast83> Greets, everyone...
[03:56] <NightBird> hey
[03:57] <contrast83> Anyone know what would cause Amarok to be using ~20% CPU?
[03:59] <pauljw> contrast83: is it staying at 20%?  mine hits that when it accesses the next tune but then drops off to say 1.3 where it is right now.  could it be updating the album covers?  i read somewhere that it does that periodically.
[04:01] <contrast83> pauljw: It's staying at at least 20%, spikes to ~%70 when changing tracks.
[04:03] <pauljw> contrast83: whoa, that's not right.  i have no idea what would be causing that, have you checked their site for bug reports?
[04:04] <contrast83> Nope, I'll have a look around. I *am* on Gutsy, so it might be related to that.
[04:09] <holyguyver> anyway, I have fixed bash from rivergates mess, now how do I fix that HHD :-p LoL
[04:09] <Seibikitei> Greetings everyone, I was curious if anyone had any advice for optimizing xorg.conf with an Nvidia 8800 GTS card and the official drivers, I haven't had any luck searching Google and what not
[04:09] <shadowhywind> Question, Why if i used the website package search it says a package is in the universe repository, but when i look in apt/adept i don't find it
[04:10] <tekteen> check /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:10] <tekteen> nm
[04:10] <shadowhywind> universe and multiverse are both uncommented
[04:10] <tekteen> go to the adept manager
[04:11] <tekteen>  ok
[04:11] <tekteen> sudo apt-get update
[04:11] <shadowhywind> *i am also in the adept manager, if you wanted me to still be there*
[04:12] <tekteen> fetch updates
[04:12] <bazhang> tekteen: sudo is for terminal, no?
[04:12] <tekteen> yes
[04:12] <tekteen> sorry
[04:12] <tekteen> use fetch updates
[04:12] <shadowhywind> done that, and still not finding it
[04:13] <tekteen> what is the package called
[04:13] <shadowhywind> apt-file
[04:13] <tekteen> I can find it
[04:14] <shadowhywind> odd..
[04:14] <stdin> !info apt-file
[04:14] <ubotu> apt-file: APT package searching utility -- command-line interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.8.2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 12 kB, installed size 96 kB
[04:14] <tekteen> it is part of universe/base
[04:14] <shadowhywind> Let me pastebin my apt sources.list and see if possiable i am missing something
[04:14] <stdin> shadowhywind: does "apt-cache search apt-file" find it ?
[04:14] <shadowhywind> nothing
[04:15] <shadowhywind> !pastebin
[04:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:15] <tekteen> in command line type sudo apt-get install apt-file
[04:16] <shadowhywind> it says that it is not available, but is referred to by another package,.... Package apt-file has no installation candidate
[04:16] <shadowhywind> by any chance would apt-file not work on amd64?
[04:16] <tekteen> maybe
[04:16] <tekteen> I use 32
[04:16] <stdin> the package is available on all architectures
[04:18] <shadowhywind> here is my sources.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39860/
[04:19] <holyguyver> Ardchoille now I finally got it to mount, now it is in /mnt/sda1 but still will not give me permission to rewad it :p
[04:19] <bazhang> rewad?
[04:20] <ardchoille> holyguyver: That is an HPFS/NTFS partition.. I can't help you with it.
[04:20] <holyguyver> slackern!
[04:21] <holyguyver> I wonder if slackern is even still here :p
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> ASUS Motherboard Ships With Embedded Linux, Web Browser
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> Nifty@
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=869&num=1
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> Within five seconds of turning on this $360 USD gaming/enthusiast motherboard, you can be using Linux and surfing the Internet.
[04:22] <ardchoille> Dr_Willis: nice :)
[04:22] <bazhang> I saw that Dr_Willis
[04:22] <holyguyver> is there any kubuntu hpfs/ntfs experts in the room?!
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> Ive used thentfs stuff a little..
[04:23] <ardchoille> holyguyver: Maybe Dr_Willis can help
[04:23] <holyguyver> & the ntfs room only has like 4 people in it & they all seem asleep
[04:23] <holyguyver> Hi Dr :D
[04:24] <tekteen> I do not suggest using ntfs read write drivers
[04:24] <holyguyver> Dr I have a ntfs external USB drive, I have ntfs-3g fully installed, but when I try to go to the files/folder that it is mounted to it says I do not have permissions to access
[04:24] <tekteen> If windows changes 1 thing that you don-t know about you could lose all you data
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> holyguyver  check the fstab file.. see if you have an entry for the thing?
[04:25] <holyguyver> where would fstab be?
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> !fstab
[04:25] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> time for linux fundamentals. :)
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> You did run the ntfs-config tool, then UNMOUNT the drive, and try plugging it back in?
[04:26] <holyguyver> I do not have a folder named that
[04:27] <holyguyver> there is no fstab folder
[04:27] <stdin> it's a file
[04:27] <holyguyver> O
[04:27] <stdin> not a directory
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> Its time to learn some Linux FUNdamentals i think
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> cat /etc/fstab
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> look at the fstab file - that defines what gets mounted where. (well for non-removeable media)
[04:28] <tekteen> type "man man" Then "man bash" :-)
[04:28] <holyguyver> but it is removable media
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> if you install the ntfs-config tool. run it then check the 2 box;'s it has.. then perhaops reboot.. it 'should' work
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> I dont use ntfs-reoveable media much. and when i do i add an entry in the fstab file for it.
[04:29] <holyguyver> I already did the ntfs config
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> just to be sure its getting mounted right
[04:29] <Ben_Cs> hello. i instaled a switch in my home network. WinXP works fine. Kubuntu: some progs (pidgin,skype) have internet, and some (firefox,opera,xchat) don't. please help!
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> IF the drive was allready mounted when you ran ntfs-config. you must unmount/remount it.
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> which  may have it confused if you ran ntfs-config while it was mounted.
[04:30] <holyguyver> I have unmounted it & restart my pc several times since then
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> then i would say check the fstab file. make a entry to mount it manually
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> thee should be entrys for any other ntfs disks you have. use them as an example
[04:31] <holyguyver> here is the fstab http://pastebin.com/d640122f5
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> it appears you had no ntfs entries to begin with. so ntfs-config did not change it.
[04:32] <PHPechowiec> hi
[04:32] <emilsedgh> !hi | PHPechowiec
[04:32] <PHPechowiec> how to upgrade my kde to 7.10
[04:32] <ubotu> PHPechowiec: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[04:32] <stdin> PHPechowiec: ask in #ubuntu+1
[04:33] <emilsedgh> PHPechowiec: you mean, your kubuntu?
[04:33] <holyguyver> well now i just unmounted the drive & re-did the config
[04:33] <emilsedgh> stdin: when this channel will become official gutsy support channel?
[04:33] <stdin> emilsedgh: when gutsy is releases
[04:34] <stdin> releaseD
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> holyguyver you did run the ntfs-config tool as root?
[04:34] <holyguyver> & fstab now looks the same, unchanged
[04:34] <holyguyver> yes as sudo
[04:34] <emilsedgh> stdin: just a few days! we will have restricted-manager! no more nvidia/ati problems here!
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> holyguyver theres no ntfs entries to begin with - so its not changing them.
[04:34] <PHPechowiec> i enter to the console sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and now i have 7.10(gusty) and I have kde 3.5 but I want kde 4.0
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> you need to add a proper ntfs entry for it to change.
[04:35] <holyguyver> how do I do that?
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[04:35] <stdin> PHPechowiec: kde4 is unusable now, and not installed by default
[04:35] <bazhang> PHPechowiec: wait until December then
[04:35] <stdin> PHPechowiec: it won't be default in gutsy either
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> that url is a bit old.. wonder if theres a better one
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs-3g
[04:35] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[04:36] <Dr_Willis> example ntfs3g fstab entry --->
[04:36] <PHPechowiec> when kde 4.0 will be relased
[04:36] <Dr_Willis>     /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows ntfs-3g locale=en_US.utf8 0 0
[04:36] <stdin> !kde4 | PHPechowiec
[04:36] <ubotu> PHPechowiec: KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php
[04:36] <holyguyver> I already have all of that installed, did that last week Dr_Willis
[04:37] <Dr_Willis> holyguyver then you just need the proper fstab entry... another example
[04:37] <Dr_Willis> -->  /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows ntfs-3g users,uid=THE_ID_OF_THE_OWNER,gid=THE_ID_OF_THE_GROUP 0 0
[04:39] <holyguyver> The document could not be saved, as it was not possible to write to file:///etc/fstab. Check that you have write access to this file or that enough disk space is available.
[04:39] <holyguyver> that is what it told me when I tried to save the new entry
[04:39] <tekteen> does anyone know how to find the exact frame I pause on (videos)
[04:41] <holyguyver> Dr_willis
[04:42] <mohamed_> !ati
[04:42] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> holyguyver its a system file..  Logicially you MUST edit it as the root user
[04:43] <jdong> stdin: whoa have I had it all last night?
[04:43] <jdong> oops
[04:43] <holyguyver> so you are telling me I must kdesku it then?
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> or however else you perfer to do root thing.
[04:43] <stdin> jdong: that's nothing compared to how long I had it in #ubuntu ;)
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> i use 'sudo vi /etc/fstab' myself :)
[04:43] <jdong> stdin: hehe :)
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> or sudo nano /etc/fstab
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> or kdesu whatevereditoryoulike /etc/fstab
[04:44] <stdin> "kdesu kate /etc/fstab"
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> bbl -  wife is yelling.
[04:47] <holyguyver> kdesu kate /ect/fstab is what I used
[04:49] <holyguyver> Well Dr_willis now it mounts, but it was mounting before, but it still is not giving me access to it.
[04:52] <holyguyver> woah guys ardchoille Dr_willis & so on, when I tried to safely unmount it it told me "Unfortunately, the device system:/media/sda1 (/dev/sda1) named 'SimpleDrive' and currently mounted at /mnt/sda1 could not be unmounted. Unmounting failed due to the following error: Cannot open /media/.hal-mtab"
[04:53] <soa2ii> Hi there... I got a really weird problem... sometimes my keyboard prints the same char again and again... afaik it is no hardware problem
[04:53] <soa2ii> now i suppress it with the kde control center
[04:54] <holyguyver> ardchoille do you at least know what would cause that?
[04:54] <ardchoille> holyguyver: Wow, never seen that before. I have a feeling you're not going to get that drive working in Linux.
[04:55] <holyguyver> But what does the "Cannot open /media/.hal-mtab" mean?
[04:55] <mulander> 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller]  (rev 03)<-- how to install drivers for this card?
[04:56] <soa2ii> mulander: I think intel cards are standard supported...
[04:56] <mulander> soa2ii: my gf installed kubuntu from wubi
[04:56] <soa2ii> wubi?
[04:56] <soa2ii> gf := geforce?
[04:56] <mulander> windows based installer
[04:56] <ardchoille> holyguyver: It could mean that the file doesn't exist
[04:56] <mulander> gf == girl friend
[04:57] <soa2ii> :P
[04:57] <holyguyver> isn't that file importent?
[04:57] <ardchoille> holyguyver: I don't have that file either
[04:57] <mulander> the question is how to install the drivers manually
[04:57] <mulander> :)
[04:57] <soa2ii> Hm... they are in the standard kernel... so they are still there...
[04:57] <holyguyver> Ardchoilleyou are having a lot of first with my Kubuntu aren't you? :-p
[04:58] <mulander> wubi uses alternate install cd from what I saw.
[04:58] <soa2ii> can you look into the /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[04:58] <ardchoille> holyguyver: You can say that again
[04:58] <mulander> soa2ii: I can grep for vesa if you want to know that :)
[04:59] <soa2ii> ok... :P
[04:59] <holyguyver> believe it or not my WinXP has just as many problems :p all my computers do, maybe it is something about legasy sistems that do that :p
[05:00] <ardchoille> holyguyver: Maybe it's something about how you use the computers?
[05:00] <soa2ii> mulander: and 'lsmod' doesn't show the module?
[05:00] <holyguyver> nope, I have onyl had kubuntu installed for two weeks & only been on it two days out of that
[05:00] <mulander> soa2ii: driver == i810
[05:01] <mulander> but glxinfo | grep direct -i shows direct rendering : no
[05:01] <holyguyver> I use computers mainly for office woprk, music, videos, & porn
[05:01] <soa2ii> Hm... is DRI enabled?
[05:01] <soa2ii> in the xorg.conf
[05:02] <mulander> I doubt it
[05:02] <mulander> but it's not enabled on mine 2
[05:02] <mulander> and I get the direct rendering yes msg.
[05:02] <soa2ii> Hm...
[05:03] <holyguyver> I was a power user back in the days of win3.0, but am very rusty now though, so perhaps I indeed fiddle with things in odd ways, I do not know.
[05:03] <soa2ii> Have you set the driber from vesa to i180?
[05:03] <mulander> soa2ii: no, the system set it by itself
[05:03] <soa2ii> Huh? I thought you can grep for vesa :P
[05:04] <mulander> I did, so I didn't see any results and told her to check the config file :)
[05:04] <soa2ii> (:
[05:04] <holyguyver> well I am calling it a night ardchoille talk to you in about two weeks again, & hey aren't you glad this time I wasn't killing you with my insistance on being kavorkian, this time my ext hhd was the one insisting :p
[05:04] <soa2ii> Why can't she just install it "right" :P ... and aptitude show libgl1-mesa-dri
[05:04] <soa2ii> ?
[05:06] <estel> hi
[05:06] <estel> is there a way to set the standard umask for mounting ntfs partitions?
[05:06] <mulander> soa2ii: she has no cd burner, and the .iso I gave her was corrupted
[05:06] <mulander> :)
[05:06] <holyguyver> Ardchoille I can see it now a DebIAN linux durivative called KavorkIAN linux LoL :p
[05:07] <soa2ii> mulander: args... aptitude show libgl1-mesa-dri ?
[05:08] <lisa> can anyone please help with an apt/dpkg problem? thanks!
[05:08] <holyguyver> any distro devalupers out there, I freely give you the right to use the KavorkIAN Linux name for your own distro, you can GPL that name :p LoL
[05:11] <mulander> soa2ii: installed
[05:12] <soa2ii> mulander: weird... i180 installed, loaded and set in the xorg.conf...
[05:12] <soa2ii> mulander: what does the x11 log show?
[05:13] <mulander> soa2ii: can't check now as her pc is offline
[05:14] <mulander> soa2ii: I'm just wondering if here model supports direct rendering at all :)
[05:14] <soa2ii> mulander: thats bad... i thnik the best will be: take a new *.iso and you will install all (:
[05:14] <mulander> soa2ii: but thanks for the help anyways - another quick question - is there a way to 'close' Klamav properly?
[05:14] <soa2ii> Hm... this is a deamon... isn't it?
[05:15] <soa2ii> clamd or so...
[05:15] <mulander> clamav is a daemon
[05:15] <mulander> klamav is just a front-end
[05:15] <soa2ii> what about
[05:15] <mulander> and the front-end doesn't want to close :)
[05:15] <mulander> stays in the system tray
[05:15] <soa2ii> Ahh :D
[05:15] <soa2ii> Even not with strg+q?
[05:15] <mulander> I think it's a bug with their app :)
[05:15] <mulander> well it quits after getting struck with the cursor of doom ^^
[05:15] <soa2ii> :S Why are you using it?
[05:16] <mulander> my gf needed something for scanning the pendrive when it get's back from other pcs :)
[05:16] <soa2ii> Clamav is just for protecting windows pcs :P
[05:16] <mulander> soa2ii: yes and she dual boots
[05:16] <Juacom99> can anione plese remoend me a good divx palyer??
[05:16] <soa2ii> Ah... hmm
[05:16] <bazhang> vlc?
[05:16] <Juacom99> ok thanks ^^
[05:17] <soa2ii> Juacom99: Kaffeine+xine (:
[05:17] <bazhang> he said good..haha
[05:17] <soa2ii> mulander: Hm... what about killall klamav
[05:17] <soa2ii> ?
[05:17] <mulander> soa2ii: I can kill it that's not the problem
[05:17] <soa2ii> bazhang: therefore i mentioned kaffeine+xine ;)
[05:17] <mulander> I just want to know if it's their bug that the app doesn't want to close using regular methods
[05:17] <Juacom99> what's xine?? sorry noob here :$
[05:18] <mulander> Juacom99: simply speaking - xine is the engine that plays stuff
[05:18] <mulander> :)
[05:18] <soa2ii> Juacom99: Just a backend
[05:18] <Juacom99> :O
[05:18] <bazhang> http://xinehq.de/
[05:18] <bazhang> soa2ii: got me..haha
[05:19] <Juacom99> so this xine may works with amarok??
[05:19] <mulander> Juacom99: amarok uses xine to play music
[05:19] <soa2ii> mulander: Hm... what if you start klamav on the console and wath for errors on close?
[05:19] <soa2ii> bazhang: hm?
[05:19] <mulander> Juacom99: kaffeine uses xine to play music, and video.
[05:19] <mulander> soa2ii: good idea
[05:20] <mulander> no errors
[05:20] <mulander> but I think i found the problem
[05:20] <bazhang> soa2ii: xine rules? ok? haha
[05:20] <Juacom99> hoo by the way good pastbin page (Y)
[05:20] <mulander> the must have code the app to minimize on the destroy signal
[05:20] <mulander> and the same signal is sent when somone clicks close in the tray
[05:20] <soa2ii> bazhang: I have no problems with my kaffeine/xine setup... it's all fine
[05:20] <Juacom99> i already add to my favorites
[05:20] <mulander> so the app want's to minimize again insted of closing.
[05:21] <soa2ii> mulander: I don't really know if one wants to use such a bad software :D
[05:21] <bazhang> soa2ii: sorry for the misunderstanding; I was just kidding around--xine is fine, I just prefer other than kaffeine. My bad!
[05:21] <soa2ii> bazhang: ok ;)
[05:21] <mulander> soa2ii: well the idea of opensource software is to reports bugs right? so the can make it better :)
[05:22] <bazhang> yes!
[05:22] <soa2ii> mulander: :P ok
[05:22] <mulander> go back to kernel 1.0 :)
[05:22] <mulander> and compare to 2.6
[05:22] <mulander> if people would not report bugs then you would still be there
[05:22] <mulander> :)
[05:22] <soa2ii> mulander: :p those little changes :P
[05:23] <soa2ii> I would be much more happy if my keyboard would work... :/
[05:23] <mulander> ok I have to go afk
[05:23] <soa2ii> mulander: bye...
[05:23] <mulander> see you all later and thanks for all the help soa2ii
[05:23] <soa2ii> np
[05:23] <Metrol> Speaking of buggies, anyone else having wifi problems after the last batch of updates?
[05:24] <Metrol> I can iwlist with my wlan0 interface, but the NetworkManager doesn't show anything... and yes, wireless is enabled
[05:24] <bazhang> Metrol: like whar?
[05:25] <blood> Nice...I made it :)
[05:25] <Metrol> bazhang: I no longer get a list of wireless hubs to select from on the KNetworkManager icon in the systray
[05:26] <blood> I've been browsing around the internet all day and night trying to find tips and tricks on learning about Linux, but have come to find a lot of it overwhelming.
[05:26] <bazhang> Metrol: have you configured it in administrator mode?
[05:26] <Metrol> I was getting a nice list, and I was able to connect to my LinkSys box via wpa up until a couple of days ago
[05:26] <blood> Does anyone have any advice on how to fix my computer to get the sound working?  Everything is working except sound.
[05:26] <Metrol> bazhang: Yup... and it sees the wlan0 interface
[05:26] <bazhang> Metrol: are you comfortable using a terminal (Konsole)?
[05:26] <Metrol> Sure
[05:27] <bazhang> Metrol: which card?
[05:27] <Metrol> Oh heck... I know this one.....
[05:27] <Metrol> Intel...ummm, oh heck, need to look it up
[05:27] <Metrol> Got lazy about it while it was working :)
[05:27] <bazhang> 3945w?
[05:27] <blood> That might help me actually, is there a command I can type to find out what sound card I have?
[05:27] <Metrol> 4965
[05:27] <bazhang> lspci
[05:28] <blood> Thank you.
[05:28] <BluesKaj> blood, lspci | grep audio
[05:28] <Metrol> 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN Network Connection (rev 61)
[05:28] <blood> Thank you, blueskah & bahzang.
[05:29] <blood> blueskaj*
[05:29] <BluesKaj> blood, or this : sudo asoundconf list
[05:29] <bazhang> blood: no problem
[05:30] <squidy> i've got xorg configured to dual head.. i wanna run compiz only in screen 0.. if i execute compiz from terminal with only-current-screen it works.. but my doubt is how can i set this at the start up in kubuntu?
[05:30] <blood> Lol, Names of available sound cards: CK8 - should I get more information before finding out how to get it working or is that all I need to google?
[05:31] <blood> It doesn't seem very complete
[05:31] <Metrol> squidy, I don't know your answer exactly, but I'd suspect you'll have to dive into some of the KDM startup configs
[05:32] <Metrol> It'll most likely be one of them file copied over from XDM, so you'll most likely find your answer around those man pages
[05:32] <squidy> Metrol, i've tried to put the complete command of compiz into .kde/env scripts.. but it didn't work :(
[05:32] <Metrol> Oh heck, where is the kdm configs in Linux?
[05:32] <blood> I think I found it! 0000:00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation MCP2S AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a1)
[05:32] <squidy> toca aqui _o/
[05:33] <sbucatino> #alsa
[05:33] <NickPresta> squidy, have you ever written a script for /etc/init.d/?
[05:33] <Metrol> squidy: I'll bet it has to be at the server level
[05:33] <squidy> nick__, no i haven't
[05:33] <BluesKaj> blood , perhaps you could copy and paste the lspci output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ so we can have a look , just post the pastebin resultant URL here
[05:33] <Metrol> I doubt you'd be able to do that kind of tweak as a user
[05:33] <squidy> for that, no
[05:33] <bazhang> Metrol: it seems in development forum that there may be  a problem with the iwlwifi/iwl4965 driver
[05:33] <BluesKaj> blood, then to set your default soundcard : sudo asoundconf set-default-card "name of soundcard"
[05:33] <bazhang> ubuntuforums, sorry.
[05:33] <NickPresta> squidy, you may want to examine the scripts in /etc/init.d and make a new one, called 'compiz-fusion' and adapt it to your needs.
[05:34] <Metrol> Oh phewy... it WAS working so nicely for a couple of weeks here on Gutsy :(
[05:34] <Metrol> bazhang: Do you have a URL?
[05:34] <squidy> nick__, nick__ are there any example about that?
[05:34] <blood> Ok, thank you blues:  I did that and I have a large amount of text to paste - won't that spam the screen?
[05:34] <bazhang> can I paste it here? It's kind of long...
[05:35] <bazhang> stdin: would that be ok?
[05:35] <underdog5004> !pastebin
[05:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:35] <blood> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39875/
[05:35] <blood> !!
[05:35] <blood> Yay
[05:35] <blood> :)
[05:36] <Juacom99> sorry another quiestion
[05:36] <Juacom99> i'm installing xine
[05:36] <NickPresta> squidy, http://pastebin.ca/728985
[05:36] <Juacom99> and it said it need zlib
[05:37] <NickPresta> squidy, that is a simplistic example
[05:37] <Metrol> bazhang: You could just msg me off channel... I think that works with Pidgin here
[05:37] <deviance> stdin: Whre does openoffice store its autosaves and backups how can I access them
[05:37] <blood> BluesKaj:  That is all of the information displayed by lspci - and well the main problem I'm having is I simply cannot get sound.
[05:37] <Metrol> Hmmm, gonna learn all kinds of new stuff today :)
[05:37] <squidy> NickPresta, let me see.. thanks
[05:37] <blood> The CD player and audio programs just freeze up when I put a CD in.
[05:37] <stdin> deviance: no clue
[05:38] <deviance> Damn, anyone know how to get open office back ups?
[05:38] <stdin> Juacom99: xine is already installed in kubuntu, don't compile it
[05:38] <Juacom99> ok thanks XD
[05:39] <blood> I guess vocabulary will be the biggest hurdle in learning Linux =O
[05:39] <Juacom99> but something is missing :
[05:39] <bazhang> thanks underdog5004
[05:39] <Juacom99> i can't heard audio CD :S
[05:39] <blood> me either :(
[05:40] <BluesKaj> blood, k-menu/system settings/sound system/enable sound system,then choose hardware tab/select the audio device/Advanced Linux Sound Architecture, click apply
[05:40] <squidy> NickPresta, create a script for some daemon in init.d i know.. but my doubt is how to create that script for compiz-fusion.. 'cause i really need to have X server executing before compiz-fusion script starts
[05:40] <blood> Nice, let me try that :)
[05:41] <NickPresta> squidy, you could create a script and put it in ~/.kde/Autostart
[05:41] <BluesKaj> blood , that's only part of it , there's more to come :)
[05:41] <Vill> Hi, I'm sure you guys are sick of hearing this, but I've really hosed myself and need help. Anyone want to tackle what I think is a serious problem?
[05:41] <Azzco> Does anyone know how to install grub to a USB-stick from windows?
[05:42] <blood> Thanks Blues, it's restarting now *crossing fingers*
[05:42] <deviance> stdin: It autorecovers on startup :D
[05:42] <Azzco> Vill, tell us what's the problem
[05:42] <BluesKaj> blood, thenext thing to do: in the terminal type ' alsamixer ', make sure the Master, PCM, Line & CD are all unmuted ,by using the "M" key'
[05:43] <blood> Ok, this thing is restarting several times - not sure how long it will take
[05:43] <blood> But I'll do that as soon as it finishes
[05:43] <squidy> NickPresta, i'm using this solution at this moments.. but i'm having an inconvenient trouble with my kicker (pager).. and some icons like adept_notify that stay out of tray when kde Autostarts compiz at start up... ;(
[05:43] <BluesKaj> restarting what. blood ?
[05:43] <villaael> I tried to install a new video driver (Nvidia) and now it won't start. If I boot in "normal" mode (non-recovery) I get the loading screen and the progress bar fills like normal but then the screen blinks and i get the loading screen with an empty bar and it just sits there
[05:44] <villaael> I switched to my backup copy of xorg.conf but its still doing it
[05:44] <ceritus> can anyone hlp me get a Griffin imic working in kubuntu?
[05:44] <chisdasvinto> hi
[05:44] <blood> blues:  When I applied the Advanced Architecture option and then clicked apply - it began cycling through a "Sound System Restarting" window
[05:44] <Metrol> bazhang: That thread is before the beta came out.  This card has been working okay since the beta.  I believe the card is still working okay, but that there's a problem with NetworkManager
[05:44] <blood> I think it's almost done though.
[05:44] <villaael> Last night I got an error about the kernel version of the driver and my kernel version not being the same
[05:44] <chisdasvinto> need help with nvidia drivers, someone can help me??
[05:44] <Azzco> villaael, Ctrl+Alt+F1 log in then sudo dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[05:44] <NickPresta> !ask | chisdasvinto
[05:44] <ubotu> chisdasvinto: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:44] <bazhang> Metrol: my bad.
[05:45] <blood> Actually, it keeps going from 90% to 5% is this normal? :D
[05:45] <BluesKaj> no
[05:45] <Azzco> At least you can change to the opensource nvidia driver with that command and then reinstall the nvidia drivers
[05:45] <Juacom99> is working for me :D
[05:45] <blood> Haha
[05:45] <Metrol> bazhang: Hey, thanks for the effort... I just need to keep on the hunt
[05:45] <Juacom99> i can liten CD now :)
[05:45] <blood> :\
[05:45] <chisdasvinto> i got on xorg: EE error - failed to load module "NVIDIA"
[05:46] <chisdasvinto> dpkg-reconfigure doesn't fix the problem
[05:46] <Metrol> I pulled the nvidia driver off the box... caused more problems than it solved
[05:46] <BluesKaj> blood what app is cycling ?
[05:46] <Metrol> Couldn't put my lappy to sleep with it installed
[05:46] <bazhang> Metrol: sorry I couldn't fix it for you--I suspect such a new card will be fixed (drivers that is) some time not to long in the future.
[05:46] <villaael> Azzco: should there be a space between xserver and xorg? I'm not getting any results from that, just displays the dpkg instructions
[05:46] <Metrol> bazhang: I don't think there's a problem with the card's drivers though
[05:46] <chisdasvinto> trying to return to the old driver give the same problem, before it was working fine
[05:47] <Azzco> villaael, it was some time ago but if you have access to google use it ;9
[05:47] <Metrol> the wlan0 interface comes up, and I can iwlist access points
[05:47] <NickPresta> chisdasvinto, did you install the correct nvidia driver? Could you post your xorg.conf in a pastebin?
[05:47] <bazhang> Metrol: iwconfig
[05:47] <blood> Blues:  Well I'm in the window "Sound & Multimedia - System..." and I clicked the "Advanced Linux Sound Architecture" then "Apply" - Next a small window "Restarting Sound System" popped up and has been going from 0 - 100 slowly over and over.
[05:47] <ubuntu> Hi. I'm switching to a new hard disk  but I have some problems with booting.
[05:47] <Metrol> It's the fancy graphical NetworkManager that doesn't seem to want to work
[05:47] <ceritus> can anyone hlp me get a Griffin imic working in kubuntu?
[05:48] <Metrol> bazhang: I saw that... what I haven't taken the time to do here on Linux is setup the wpa_supplicant manually
[05:48] <BluesKaj> ok, blood , just close that window
[05:48] <deviance> !info griffin-imic
[05:48] <ubotu> Package griffin-imic does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[05:48] <deviance> !griffin
[05:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about griffin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:48] <ceritus> !info -griffin-imic
[05:48] <ceritus> !info griffin-imic
[05:48] <blood> I think we're on the same track - I closed it and I'm going to go back in to see if the option is still selected then proceed to next step.
[05:48] <BluesKaj> blood, in the terminal type ' alsamixer ', make sure the Master, PCM, Line & CD are all unmuted ,by using the "M" key'
[05:48] <blood> Yeah, it's still there as Advanced Arch... So hopefully it worked.
[05:49] <Metrol> brb
[05:49] <_GoRDoN_> Next message should be someting like "Reading files needed during the boot" but my computer never gets to there
[05:49] <chisdasvinto> pastebin, what's that?
[05:49] <NickPresta> !pastebin | chisdasvinto
[05:49] <ubotu> chisdasvinto: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:49] <blood> For example:  Line [Off]  = mute?
[05:49] <villaael> That's part of the problem, I don't know what to google. :)
[05:50] <BluesKaj> MM= mute
[05:50] <bazhang> Metrol: it is loads easier in (shhh!)Gutsy.
[05:50] <BluesKaj> unmuted =00
[05:50] <timbo__> I have two removable drives, one is a flash other is a WD 80 gig and i cant get kubuntu to see it but ubuntu does
[05:50] <blood> Right, Line was mute!  PCM and Master were unmuted - and there is no CD.
[05:50] <_GoRDoN_> So I quess that some file still points to that old hard drive but I have no idea about which. Any ideas
[05:50] <timbo__> anyone know how to fix it
[05:51] <blood> There are two master's:  "Master" and "Master M"
[05:51] <blood> Should both be unmuted?
[05:51] <BluesKaj> blood, do you have an IEC958 ctrl slider ?
[05:52] <blood> Blues:  Sorry, but I'm really not sure - is there a way to find out?
[05:52] <ceritus> the imic is recognized in kmix but how do I get sound out of it? pls?
[05:52] <strog_> hi
[05:52] <blood> Blues:  I'm a total newb.
[05:52] <chisdasvinto> this is my previous configuration that works on 9755, but now it doesn't: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39877/
[05:52] <BluesKaj> use the right and left arrow keys to move across the ctrls
[05:52] <strog_> i just installed the nvidia-glx-new onto my system
[05:52] <strog_> and now kubuntu is lagging a lot
[05:52] <timbo__> I have two removable drives, one is a flash other is a WD 80 gig and i cant get kubuntu to see it but ubuntu does
[05:52] <timbo__> anyone know how to fix it
[05:52] <blood> Blues:  Yes, I am able to do that - and then I am able to toggle between unmute and mute.
[05:52] <strog_> it actually froze
[05:53] <strog_> is lagging a lot
[05:53] <blood> Blues:  00 reads for (Master, PCM, and Line)
[05:53] <deviance> Where are kopetes logs stores
[05:53] <deviance> stored*
[05:53] <villaael> Ok when I run sudo dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg -high, I get an error that says there are conflicting actions -e (--control) and -r (--remove)
[05:55] <blood> Blues:  Should "Center" be unmuted also?  It has a color fill of white green and red just like Master.
[05:55] <ceritus> can anyone hlp me get a Griffin imic working in kubuntu? i've been google searching forever and have gotten nowhere help pls??
[05:55] <pag> villaael, it's " sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg " NOT the " ..dpgk -reconfigure"
[05:56] <villaael> ah ha, thanks
[05:56] <pag> villaael, if you insist on writing them seperatly, the " sudo dpkg --reconfigure " might also work..
[05:57] <chisdasvinto> for me "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" doesn't help me to make the nvidia drivers works
[05:57] <blood> I'm going to unmute "Center," hopefully that doesn't harm anything.
[05:57] <deviance> dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg is the reccomended method
[05:57] <deviance> It wont help them work, but you can restor your old drivers and make the machine work again
[05:58] <deviance> Thats if you have the wrong drivers.
[05:58] <chisdasvinto> it seems that the nvidia kernel module is not loaded on the boot
[05:58] <deviance> i.e you get a blank screen on boot
[05:58] <deviance> chisdasvinto: What happens when you boot?
[05:58] <blood> Blues:  Still not working though - the sound file just freezes when I try to play.
[05:59] <chisdasvinto> i got black, screen even with the old drivers. the ony way to load x server is with the vesa driver
[06:00] <deviance> What card do you have?
[06:00] <villaael> ok, got an API mismatch: Nvidia kernel has the version 1.0-7184 but this module has the version 1.0-9755
[06:00] <blood> Wow, this time that I typedi n alsamixer I have a few more options.
[06:00] <chisdasvinto> nvidia NV43 Geforce 6600 GT - 256 MB
[06:00] <deviance> Are you sure you have the correct drivers installed? Mine did the same, but when I enabled them through the kcontrol monitor settings they worked fine
[06:01] <deviance> You need the nvidia-glx-new, is that what you installed?
[06:01] <chisdasvinto> it was i got before, and it was working fine, but i installed the new driver from nvidia website and then the old drivers didn't works again
[06:01] <blood> So I just learned that I downloaded and installed Dapper Drake when there is a newer "Feisty?"  Will that fix my sound problems?
[06:02] <blood> To upgrade it?
[06:02] <Fleck> hi, i can't see how fast adept is downloading packages... only % :(
[06:02] <deviance> Hmm
[06:02] <deviance> I take it the new one diddn't work?
[06:02] <jpatrick> Fleck: clicked on details?
[06:03] <Fleck> where?
[06:03] <Fleck> there;s no suc button
[06:03] <jpatrick> next to the process bar?
[06:03] <Fleck> *there's
[06:03] <Fleck> one button - cancel download
[06:03] <chisdasvinto> both of them the new (100.14.19) or the old (9755) don't work right now
[06:04] <rysiek|pl> blood: most probably - yeah
[06:04] <blood> rysiek|pl:  is there a specific way to updgrade from this lesser version of Dapper Drake to the Feisty?
[06:05] <chisdasvinto> first when i installed the new driver i got a API mismatch error, but "dpkg-reconfigure" solve it
[06:05] <blood> rysiek|pl:  I'm a newb, and do not want to destroy anything.
[06:05] <rysiek|pl> blood: you can dist-upgrade to Edgy and then to Feisty
[06:05] <chisdasvinto> since then, i alwayes got EE failed to load module, with the two drivers...
[06:05] <deviance> Blood make a few back ups
[06:05] <rysiek|pl> blood: or you can clean-install feisty
[06:05] <rysiek|pl> blood: I would suggest the second method
[06:06] <blood> rysiek|pl:  It's just as stable as Dapper?
[06:06] <rysiek|pl> blood: you can save your personal data and settings simply by *not* formatting the /home partition during feisty's installation
[06:06] <jamili> does it matter if i burn feisty to rw or r?
[06:06] <rysiek|pl> blood: I would say it's even more stable :)
[06:06] <gnomefreak> jamili: no
[06:06] <deviance> He might not have it on a seperate partition
[06:06] <jamili> gnomefreak: k
[06:06] <gnomefreak> blood: upgrade from dapper to edgy than edgy to feist
[06:06] <gnomefreak> y
[06:06] <jamili> i'll install it tomorrrow then i believe
[06:07] <rysiek|pl> jamili: it actually might. some drives might have problems with rw's, although it's extremely unlikely
[06:07] <blood> ryseik|pl:  I just repaired this computer for a friend - the hard drive crashed and I replaced it - they didn't want to spend the money to buy a copy of windows so I put Linux on it.
[06:07] <blood> ryseik|pl:  In other words there is nothing I need to save.
[06:07] <rysiek|pl> blood: good choice :)
[06:07] <rysiek|pl> blood: then definitely go for a clean install
[06:07] <gnomefreak> blood: better off installing feisty instead of upgrade
[06:07] <blood> ryseik|pl:  Just DL and install it just like I did for Dapper (delete everything on hd when asked)
[06:07] <rysiek|pl> blood: aye
[06:08] <blood> thanks to all
[06:08] <blood> I'll try this out
[06:08] <rysiek|pl> good luck
[06:10] <ceritus> can anyone hlp me get a Griffin imic working in kubuntu? i've been google searching forever and have gotten nowhere help pls??
[06:12] <rewq> hello
[06:12] <ardchoille> I wonder how long a "sudo apt-get install *" would take
[06:12] <rewq> need some help
[06:12] <Yorokobi> ardchoille, you'd run into too many dependency problems
[06:13] <rewq> could anyone help me with apt-get update probs in kubuntu 7.10 beta???
[06:13] <villaael> ok, i followed the fix i found for the api mismatch, which was to edit linux-disabled-modules-common, but I'm still getting the api mismatch error. any ideas?
[06:13] <Yorokobi> rewq, see the topic: "Gutsy help _only_ in #ubuntu+1" :)
[06:13] <biopod> guys, can you please help me out with a radeon x1600 before i give up, start to cry and go to buy nvidia
[06:13] <ardchoille> Yorokobi: I don't think so, that's what a pm is for isn't it?
[06:14] <rewq> can you send me the full link
[06:17] <Yorokobi> ardchoille, there are packages (or, historically there have been) that conflict. Package A can't be installed with package P, for example.
[06:17] <ardchoille> Yorokobi: Ah, yeah, that's right.
[06:19] <ceritus> can anyone tell me how to change the device that ALSA uses?
[06:19] <ardchoille> !sound
[06:19] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:21] <biopod> !ati
[06:21] <arash> omg, does ubotu response differently in ubuntu/kubuntu irc chanel now??
[06:21] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:22] <ghozala> HELP  I want an application to mount fat32 partion like the ntfs
[06:22] <Dr_willis> ghozala,  and the problem is?
[06:23] <Dr_willis> you can easially mount ntfs read/writeable. with the ntfs-3g tools/
[06:23] <arash> he wants to mount fat32
[06:24] <Alonea> hey, how do I mount my other hard drive? kubuntu used to mount it for me, but since I got this new hdd it hasn't. it is ntfs
[06:24] <arash> anyway, anyone know any application that can take a DVD movie in .iso format from hard drive and directly play the movie?
[06:24] <arash> Alonea, do you know about ntfs-3g ?
[06:25] <Alonea> arash: yeah, but i thought you don't need it really. i just want to copy files from it
[06:25] <Yorokobi> arash, xine and mplayer should be able to play DVD iso's, if not, you can always mount it
[06:25] <shukty> hi i have to edit a file using a text editor ... i forgot how the bash command to edit like administrator ... [ like gksudo  ]  can u help me cu all
[06:25] <arash> Alonea: You are correct
[06:25] <Azzie> Is it possible to install grub to a USB stick from windows?
[06:26] <robin_> hi, I just installed the latest beta of kubuntu. I already have enabled the nvidia 3d driver, but I can't find where I can enable compiz/fusion.
[06:26] <Alonea> arash: I just can't remember how to mount it. I thought it was mount /dev/hd0 or something like that
[06:26] <ceritus> i need help getting my griffin imic working on kubuntu help pls
[06:27] <arash> Alonea: aha, 'sudo mount <drive> <mountplace>' I think, im not 100
[06:28] <Alonea> hmm, thing is, I am not sure what kubuntu is calling my drive.
[06:28] <Yorokobi> shukty, if you're in X using Konsole, then 'kate filename' will work. If you need to be root to edit it, 'kdesu kate filename'
[06:29] <arash> Alonea: 'mount -l' I think
[06:29] <villaael> Ok, question: the nvidia driver installation script is telling that version 1.0-9755 is already installed on my system. Since that's the version its trying to install, there's no point installing again right?
[06:29] <villaael> Or should I in case something is still corrupted?
[06:30] <Alonea> arash: ok, I am going to guess its hda here, but it says specify filesystem type
[06:30] <arash> Alonea: filesystem type is NTFS, isn't it?
[06:30] <Alonea> arash: yeah
[06:30] <Alonea> arash: since xp won't take anything else. ^__^
[06:30] <Dr_willis> You can make XP use fat32
[06:30] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:31] <ceritus> i need help changing alsa deviced anything anyone can suggest would be great
[06:31] <Alonea> Dr_willis: well, I like fat32, but I have a lot of files that are bigger than 4 gigs.
[06:32] <ceritus> has noone ever cganed the default alsa device?
[06:32] <ceritus> has noone ever *changed* the default alsa device?
[06:32] <Dr_willis> Alonea,  yep. thats an issue then.
[06:33] <waltercool> hi there!, someone know how make a multiboot dvd?? im making a ubuntu 7.10 compilation :P
[06:33] <arash> !alsa
[06:33] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:33] <arash> checked that one ceritus?
[06:33] <Alonea> Dr_willis: yup. .iso dvds.
[06:34] <[HaldriK] > hello
[06:34] <ceritus> the sound is running if i plug my headphones into the jack sound is played
[06:34] <Dr_willis> There is that tool that lets xp use ext2 partitions. :)
[06:34] <Alonea> arash: how would you specify on the cmd? mount /dev/hda -ntfs /media/ntfs ?
[06:34] <Dr_willis> its -t ntfs for the filesystem type
[06:34] <ceritus> the thing is that the jack is FUBAR so I have an imic from a previous life
[06:34] <arash> Alonea: you must begin with sudo too, since you must be root for mounting
[06:35] <Dr_willis> and /media/ntfs MUST allready exist
[06:35] <Alonea> Dr_willis: oh? that would be fun to do one day, but I don't need to mess up my windows at the moment
[06:35] <ceritus> i plug in the imic and it is recognized in aplay -l and in kmix
[06:35] <ceritus> but there is is no sound
[06:35] <Alonea> oh, already have sudo on there and I created ntfs folder a minute ago on there
[06:36] <ceritus> i figure i need to to change the device location in the sound system configuration but am not sure how
[06:36] <ceritus> it's driving me crazy
[06:36] <villaael> grr, X still won;t start. anyone know where the error log is off the top of your head?
[06:37] <Yorokobi> villaael, /var/log/Xorg.0.log (typically)
[06:37] <villaael> Thanks yorokobi
[06:37] <ceritus> can anyone help?
[06:38] <Alonea> ah damn...I can't seem to find my ntfs drive on here.
[06:38] <shukty> fine
[06:38] <shukty> tnx
[06:39] <Alonea> uh oh...ok, according to dmesg [ 1230.772000]  NTFS-fs error (device hda): read_ntfs_boot_sector(): Primary boot sector is invalid.
[06:39] <[HaldriK] > somebody has test 7.10 beta?
[06:39] <Alonea> and [ 1230.772000]  NTFS-fs warning (device hda): is_boot_sector_ntfs(): Invalid boot sector checksum.
[06:39] <Alonea> any ideas?
[06:40] <rewq> can any one help me with apt get problems
[06:40] <rewq> ???
[06:41] <villaael> ah ha...in my xorg log file it says the module nvidia (which is whats in xorg.conf as my driver entry) can't be found
[06:41] <bazhang> rewq: what's the problem?
[06:41] <rewq> i cant get connection
[06:41] <rewq> with apt-get
[06:42] <rewq> I have lan conection so I have internet
[06:42] <[HaldriK] > I have a problem on a msi laptop S300X, the installer stand at 87%, cd integrity are ok, filesystem are ext3
[06:42] <rewq> but no connection with servers
[06:42] <rewq> im on kubuntu beta
[06:42] <biopod> villaael: what card are you trying to setup? tomorw I'll proabably go to replace my ATI with nvidia, would like to know what to avoid.
[06:43] <villaael> GeForce Go 7300
[06:43] <bazhang> rewq: does the system recognize that you are connected to the internet? can you web browse, etc.?
[06:43] <villaael> The crappy thing is that it worked fine and I tried to put on a newer driver to speed up WoW :/
[06:43] <rewq> yes
[06:43] <biopod> villaael: thanks, i took it of my list.
[06:43] <villaael> And now I can't run X at all
[06:43] <rewq> im chating
[06:43] <rewq> in  can browse
[06:43] <biopod> oh...
[06:44] <rewq> but adept wont work
[06:44] <rewq> sudo apt-get update from shell
[06:44] <rewq> wont work eather
[06:44] <biopod> villaael: that's what happen when we fix what aint broken :P
[06:44] <bazhang> rewq: what error message do you get when you sudo apt-get update>
[06:44] <rewq> 1sek
[06:45] <shukty> apt-get install tor privory
[06:45] <villaael> biopod: tell me about it. I'm kicking myself for not being happy with the 20fps I was getting
[06:46] <rewq> I cant even copy paste from shell
[06:46] <biopod> villaael: you are in a better position then I am. I bought a brand new box, and the "only thing" i over looked was only the 2 hardest things to setup.
[06:46] <rewq> maybe touchpad probs
[06:46] <bazhang> villaael: I have that same card, and no problems here.
[06:46] <biopod> villaael: video and wifi.
[06:46] <bazhang> rewq: what is the error message?
[06:46] <bazhang> rewq: without that I cannot help you.
[06:47] <rewq> do know any comand
[06:47] <rewq> so i can copy the text from the shell
[06:47] <rewq>  and paste here
[06:47] <rewq> cause my touchpad dont do it
[06:47] <villaael> bazhang: what version of the drivers are you running? I downloaded the latest and its all screwed up
[06:48] <rewq> wait i getin my mouse
[06:48] <rewq> 1 sek
[06:48] <bazhang> the restricted drivers for kubuntu Gutsy--100.something something villaael
[06:49] <villaael> Oh, I'm running feisty. Thing they would still work? This is driving me nuts
[06:50] <bazhang> villaael: can't say about Feisty--under the beta I have had zero problems with this card--though I'm not running high fps games either...haha
[06:50] <villaael> i might step up to gutsy just to give it a shot
[06:50] <villaael> can't be any worse than it is now that's for sure
[06:51] <bazhang> villaael: but wait until 10/18 (haha); it's just too dangerous now...
[06:51] <rewq> ok no way I can copy paste the error message here:))
[06:51] <rewq> cray kubuntu
[06:51] <DarkWizzard> Guys I have a tricky one for you
[06:52] <Yorokobi> nah, Gutsy has been pretty stable; it just has a lot of updates every day :)
[06:52] <rewq> but in some words
[06:52] <rewq> it's stuck at 25%
[06:52] <DarkWizzard> I'm Using feisty fawn, and a few days ago I had 190 MB free, I didn't copy anything else on that partition, at least not something big, and now I only have 50 MB free
[06:52] <DarkWizzard> wth ?
[06:52] <DarkWizzard> I already did sudo apt-get clean
[06:52] <bazhang> rewq: sorry I can't help you then--you can't even type it?
[06:52] <villaael> updates are fine with me as long as it gets me running again
[06:52] <DarkWizzard> and it didn't get modyfied
[06:52] <rewq> ok wait...
[06:52] <villaael> can i update to gutsy with apt-get?
[06:53] <villaael> cause i'm stuck with just command line right now on that laptop and I'm nowhere near good enough to mount an iso and use it from command line
[06:53] <bazhang> villaael: yes sure, though it's a ton of updates once you get them.
[06:53] <ardchoille> villaael: You can but lots of people experience breakage doing it
[06:53] <rewq> here it is:
[06:53] <rewq>  Could not connect to archive.canonical.com:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out
[06:53] <rewq> Err http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security Release.gpg
[06:53] <rewq>   Could not connect to security.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out
[06:53] <rewq> Err http://it.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/main Translation-en_US
[06:53] <rewq>   Could not connect to it.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out
[06:53] <rewq> Err http://archive.canonical.com gutsy/partner Translation-en_US
[06:53] <rewq>   Could not connect to archive.canonical.com:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out
[06:53] <rewq> Err http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security/main Translation-en_US
[06:54] <rewq>   Could not connect to security.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out
[06:54] <ardchoille> !paste | rewq
[06:54] <ubotu> rewq: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:54] <villaael> anyone have the package name? searching for it but nothing so far
[06:55] <bazhang> rewq: sounds like a server issue, and not with your computer, you might want to check out #ubuntu-it
[06:55] <ardchoille> villaael: Which package?
[06:55] <rewq> any idea??
[06:55] <rewq> what i can do
[06:55] <villaael> ardchoille: gutsy beta
[06:55] <lovre> hi all. I need to read some text, but my monitor goes black if i dont touch my mouse for a while. How do i turn thiss off? (kubuntu)
[06:56] <ScorpKing> hi lovre. :)
[06:56] <ardchoille> villaael:  there isn't a package. you have to modify your sources.list file and do an upgrade
[06:57] <somad> #jogja
[06:57] <tretle> how do i install kde4 from gutsy?
[06:57] <ardchoille> tretle: kde4 is barely usable right now
[06:57] <bazhang> unusable
[06:58] <jhutchins> tretle: gutsy support is in #ubuntu+1
[06:58] <lovre> .
[06:59] <ScorpKing> lovre: in kcontrol - Apearance & Themes --> Screen Saver. increase the time.
[06:59] <lovre> ScorpKing: my screen server is disabled
[06:59] <jhutchins> lovre: or right-click the desktop.
[07:00] <ardchoille> lovre: Also, kcontrol > Peripherals > Monitor & Display > Power saving tab
[07:00] <lovre> ScorpKing: and its not screensaver what activates, itj just black screen
[07:00] <jhutchins> lovre: Powe save setting in your BIOS maybe?  OR what ardchoille said.
[07:00] <tretle> yeah
[07:00] <tretle> i want to see how far its come
[07:00] <lovre> ardchoille: no, that is set to 45 minutes
[07:00] <lovre> ardchoille: this happens in like 20 sec
[07:01] <Tm_T> !away > deviance|fps
[07:01] <tretle> will use gnome as my main desktop though
[07:01] <ardchoille> lovre: Then I would check BIOS settings
[07:01] <villaael> ardchoille: what do I need to add to sources.list? Can't seem to find that anywhere
[07:01] <lovre> ardchoille: if its set in bios than it would act same under windows, wouldnt it?
[07:01] <ardchoille> villaael: upgrading has the possiblity of breaking everything.. I don't feel comfortable  giving advice.
[07:02] <ardchoille> lovre: Unless windows has settings to override it
[07:02] <villaael> Understandable. I'm already broken though :)
[07:02] <lovre> ardchoille: ill look, be right back
[07:03] <ardchoille> villaael:  if you're already broken, you shouldjn't upgrade at all.
[07:03] <ardchoille> !upgrade
[07:03] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[07:04] <ardchoille> villaael: Gutsy is scheduled to be released in 11 days anywa
[07:04] <villaael> yeah, true
[07:04] <villaael> but at this point I won't be able to upgrade cause I can't even get X to start
[07:05] <ardchoille> villaael: You're better off getting the broken items fixed first.
[07:05] <ardchoille> villaael: if you've messed with xorg.conf, there's likely a backup file in /etc/X11
[07:06] <villaael> That's what I'm trying but everything I've found so far isn't working
[07:06] <villaael> And I did back up to my backup and still no luck
[07:06] <villaael> I do have an older one I guess I could try
[07:07] <lovre> nothing in BIOS about that
[07:07] <ardchoille> That's one of the things I feel ubiquity should do: backup xorg.conf before the user logs in
[07:07] <ardchoille> That and sources.list
[07:08] <LjL> it should also enable root but really make it a sandbox into a fake system :)
[07:08] <villaael> is there a default video driver other than nvidia I can use just to get back up and running?
[07:08] <toxicfume> hi all
[07:08] <ardchoille> LjL: Yes, I agree
[07:08] <Yorokobi> villaael, nv or vesa
[07:08] <ardchoille> villaael: for nvidia, there is the "nv" driver
[07:08] <toxicfume> I just installed kubuntu 7.04 on my computer with a Linksys wireless card (WPM54G), but after i installed, i cannot connect to any wireless network :( Can someone please help
[07:09] <ardchoille> !wifi
[07:09] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:09] <villaael> thanks, changed my driver entry to that and restarted. crossing my fingers
[07:09] <toxicfume> i tried looking in the wifidocs wiki, but nothing is displayed about this problem, my card supposedly works out of the box, but it doesn't connect :(
[07:10] <villaael> still no go. progress bar loaded, then immediately unloaded and shut down
[07:10] <ardchoille> villaael:  for future reference, no need to reboot.. you just need to restart xorg with: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[07:10] <villaael> that's what i meant, didn't actually do a restart
[07:10] <toxicfume> it doesn't display any wireless networks at all
[07:11] <ScorpKing> toxicfume: gimme a sec. getting a link...
[07:11] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: thanks
[07:11] <ScorpKing> toxicfume: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty
[07:12] <ScorpKing> toxicfume: you need the drivers.
[07:12] <villaael> starting to wish i had an install cd. wiping and starting over would be easier at this point
[07:12] <villaael> holy cow! I don't know what I did, but I have X!!
[07:12] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: but my card is a RT2500 chipset..not a broadcom
[07:13] <bazhang> villaael: yess!
[07:13] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: isn't it?
[07:14] <ScorpKing> toxicfume: not sure.
[07:14] <bazhang> time to dist-upg er upgrade!
[07:14] <villaael> bazhang: lol...I think I'll wait.
[07:14] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: my card WMP54G is rt2500
[07:15] <bazhang> villaael: just kidding around...
[07:15] <ScorpKing> toxicfume: dmesg | tail - any wifi errors?
[07:17] <ScorpKing> toxicfume: my linksys is bcm.
[07:17] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: it depends on the model too, what model is yours?
[07:19] <ScorpKing> toxicfume: not sure. will have to pull it out to check. is that safe?
[07:19] <alesan^> hi how can I prevent my X display to go "black" after a certain amount of time I do not touch the keyboard?
[07:19] <alesan^> the screen doens't even go in powersave, it gets only black, which is silly
[07:20] <bazhang> alesan^: screensaver preferences?
[07:20] <alesan^> no, the screensaver is disable
[07:20] <alesan^> d
[07:21] <Zorix> mine is worse, it goes to blank screen and never comes back
[07:22] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: no no need :)
[07:22] <toxicfume> but thanks for the effort :)
[07:23] <New> I can't start krusader in root mode, dcopserver is already running error
[07:23] <toxicfume> can anyone help me with getting my linksys wireless pci adaptor to work?
[07:24] <NewCaledonia> i can't start my krusader in root mode because of dcopserver
[07:25] <waltercool> someone know how do a dvd multiboot iso of linux?
[07:25] <ScorpKing> toxicfume: i lost connection. don't you need to load a driver for the card or something?
[07:26] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: howdo i? it says in the wiki that it's already in there for my card or something
[07:26] <NewCaledonia> i can't start my krusader in root mode because of dcopserver
[07:26] <ScorpKing> toxicfume: anything in the logs?
[07:28] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: what logs?
[07:28] <villaael> well, x started but now i'm having opengl problems and can't run anything requiring 3d.
[07:28] <bazhang> upgrade
[07:28] <ScorpKing> toxicfume: try dmesg | tail first. if nothing poke around in /var/logs/
[07:29] <bazhang> oops sorry for the page break--after 10/18
[07:29] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: i did that but didn't notice anything wrong
[07:29] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: i dont understand these logs :S
[07:29] <ScorpKing> toxicfume: hehe. that doesn't help much then. :P
[07:30] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: i just know that it is supposed to work (according to the wikis) butit doesn't
[07:30] <ScorpKing> toxicfume: can you pastebin /var/log/messages ?
[07:30] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: it's a different computer :S
[07:30] <ScorpKing> toxicfume: oops. :(
[07:31] <ScorpKing> toxicfume: anyting in the logs about 'unable to load blabla' or something like that?
[07:31] <toxicfume> oky wait
[07:31] <toxicfume> which log do i check?
[07:32] <ScorpKing> in /var/log/messages
[07:33] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: no errors that i can see
[07:35] <ScorpKing> toxicfume: run lsmod | less . is there anything that look like it can be related to your card?
[07:35] <tretle> http://www.nuno-icons.com/images/estilo/raptor/
[07:35] <tretle> hope thats the new kde panel
[07:35] <tretle> :)
[07:36] <toxicfume> schiste: oaky wait
[07:37] <villaael> Anyone here run WoW with wine in gutsy?
[07:37] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: okay it's  huge list :S But i see rt2500 there which is my card for sure
[07:38] <ScorpKing> toxicfume: the card works then. can you manually connect to a wireless network?
[07:39] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: no i cant :/
[07:39] <ScorpKing> toxicfume: does it not see the networks or does it stop connecting at 28% ?
[07:40] <devianced> What language is the easiest for begginers to make programs in?
[07:40] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: earlier it was stopping at 28%, but now it just doesn't see any networks :/
[07:40] <Kachna> PHP
[07:40] <devianced> Programs not webpages
[07:40] <villaael> devianced: depends on what you want to do but perl and php are both pretty easy to use
[07:40] <devianced> I am good at PHP
[07:40] <ScorpKing> devianced: take time and learn something decent.
[07:40] <waltercool> devianced: basic
[07:40] <devianced> Nooo Applications, not websites
[07:41] <pjac-1> toda a vez que coloco o cursor do rato sobre um menu aparece da respectiva discrio. Alguem sabe como retirar essa ajuda???!!
[07:41] <waltercool> devianced: and next is pascal
[07:41] <devianced> >.<
[07:41] <villaael> Cobol even
[07:41] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: any ideas?
[07:41] <ScorpKing> toxicfume: i'm out of ideas. if it stops at 28% it's because of authentication problems.
[07:42] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: aw schucks :(
[07:42] <ScorpKing> toxicfume: maybe see what's in /etc/network/interfaces
[07:43] <lovre> how can i monitor system temperature?
[07:44] <ScorpKing> lovre: there are a few superkaramba scripts that can do that very easy. got that theme installed the other day?
[07:44] <kubuntu> hola
[07:44] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: the file interfaces doesn't exist :/
[07:45] <ScorpKing> it's /etc/network/interfaces
[07:45] <ScorpKing> must be there if you use *ubuntu.
[07:45] <lovre> ScorpKing: i coulnd get superKaramba to work. so i gave up on that
[07:46] <ScorpKing> lovre: it's in the universe repo
[07:46] <kubuntu> hello, i need help. emm.. how to change the display setting coz its stuck at 640 x 480 only.
[07:47] <ScorpKing> lovre: sudo aptitude install superkaramba
[07:48] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: okay no errors in that file
[07:48] <djdarkman_> how come apport-qt doesn`t notice strigi crashes?
[07:49] <ScorpKing> toxicfume: there won't be. is there - auto eth1 ?
[07:49] <villaael> alright...I give up. I'm back to X not starting in either kernel
[07:49] <villaael> I'm gonna wipe and reinstall I think
[07:49] <inaety> how can i convert mp4 to avi?
[07:50] <kubuntu> is there any other way to change the display setting coz its stuck at 640 x 480 only..
[07:50] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: yes there is auto eth1 and ther is auto ra0 too (which is my wireless adaptor)
[07:52] <ScorpKing> toxicfume: remove the options below ra0 (ESSID and so on). only put there - iface ra0 inet dhcp
[07:52] <ScorpKing> toxicfume: maybe it will pick up networks again but will get stuck at 28%
[07:53] <villaael> kubunt: when you go to display settings is 640x480 the only one available?
[07:53] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: okay let me try
[07:54] <ScorpKing> lovre: can you get superkaramba installed?
[07:55] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: yup it's stuck at 28% now
[07:55] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: how do i resolve this?
[07:56] <ScorpKing> toxicfume: that is because there is authentication on the router. mine does the same. not sure how to sort it out but i just use the router without any authentication for now.
[07:56] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: but it even happens on open networks :S
[07:57] <ScorpKing> toxicfume: hmmm. that suck. maybe it tries to authenticate on the open network.
[07:57] <Tstnz> toxicfume: I had the same problem... try to activate wireless by windows... and then restart in ubuntu...
[07:58] <toxicfume> Tstnz: activate wireless by windows, what do you mena?
[07:58] <Flare183> How do i configure Kontact to read and write to and from my windows live mail?
[07:58] <Tstnz> toxicfume: windows can control bios ... with applet for your laptop... try to connect wireless by win and then restart and go to ubuntu
[08:00] <toxicfume> Tstnz: i'm using a desktop, i'm just using a wireless pci adaptor inside the pc
[08:00] <jumped> after a 6 year search i've found the distro for me.....Kubuntu!!!  =D
[08:02] <Tstnz> toxicfume: sorry... I thought u with laptop
[08:04] <fdoving>  /away
[08:04] <fdoving> ops.
[08:05] <ScorpKing> toxicfume: have you tried a static ip for the wireless?
[08:05] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: not yet
[08:06] <ssmasud> is there any text viewer in ubuntu like notepad
[08:07] <ssmasud> ??
[08:07] <quixogre> ssmasud: kate
[08:07] <fdoving> ssmasud: kubuntu have kate, kedit, kwrite among others.
[08:07] <LjL> ssmasud: notepad is a text *editor*, actually. and in *kubuntu*, there is kate by default, in *ubuntu*, there is gedit
[08:07] <sub[t] rnl> greetings all
[08:08] <ScorpKing> hi
[08:08] <veselin> anyone to give me an advice about dual boot between ubuntu and winxp ?
[08:09] <ScorpKing> veselin: install xp first and then ubuntu
[08:09] <ubuntu_> hi all, isn't there a kio archiver? I need to backup few directories from k3b, I am on LiveCD
[08:10] <veselin> ScorpKing: i did so
[08:10] <ScorpKing> oh ok.
[08:11] <nybble> is there anyone here with experience installing kubuntu on a macbook?
[08:11] <ssmasud> i am using NAM in NS2, i am getting an xlib error,
[08:11] <ssmasud> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[08:11] <ssmasud> Xlib: No protocol specified
[08:11] <ssmasud> nam: couldn't connect to display ":0"
[08:14] <toxicfume> Can someone please help me get my wireless pci adaptor working?
[08:14] <ubuntu_> hi all, can I just add content of / to DVD to back it up?
[08:15] <ubuntu_> I thought there would be something like tar KIO, but it works only the other way round
[08:15] <ubuntu_> it makes it possible to open tar files, not create them
[08:16] <squidy> is anyone here using compiz and xorg configured to dual head?
[08:17] <VSpike> ubuntu_: why not create a tar from the command line and back that up?
[08:19] <VSpike> ubuntu_: did you look at "Keep"?
[08:19] <kilrae> a normal user can just back up /, you won't have permission to read certain files
[08:19] <ubuntu_> VSpike I am on a liveCD won't that need enough disk space?
[08:20] <ubuntu_> HDDs are full
[08:20] <ubuntu_> kilrae I am backing up /
[08:20] <kilrae> sorry, that should say can't
[08:21] <ubuntu_> kilrae I am on a LiveCD wanting to backup my /, I can read ok (sudo)
[08:21] <VSpike> ubuntu_: I think may be stuck anyway then because a lot of DVD/CD writing software requires enough free space to make the image first
[08:21] <ubuntu_> VSpike I believe k3b is clever enough :)
[08:21] <VSpike> ubuntu_: you're probably right :)
[08:22] <ssmasud> does anybody know how to handle XLIB errors??..No Protocol specified
[08:23] <ubuntu_> archiving it doesn't work apparently because of the space
[08:23] <fdoving> ubuntu_: you can burn / to a dvd, but if you have anything there i suspect it'll be more than one DVD in size. might want to use some smart system with volumes etc. making files of 4.5G or something like that.
[08:23] <ubuntu_> I will just burn all those files I guess
[08:23] <ubuntu_> dont you know what permissions will I have to set would I ever want to come back to the previouus distro?
[08:24] <fdoving> ubuntu_: you need to use the archive feature of tar, to get the dev files, symlinks, full permissions etc.
[08:25] <fdoving> ubuntu_: there is also partimage and mondo rescue suite.
[08:25] <ssmasud> Xlib: connection refused by 0.0...does anybody have an idea??
[08:26] <ubuntu_> k3b asked me twice: I told not to follow links (to add links) and to insert FIFOs or something like that
[08:26] <fdoving> ssmasud: the xserver at 0.0 (the first X), refuses connections from clients (graphical applications). wrong user? X not running?
[08:26] <ssmasud> fdoving..how to i check that??
[08:27] <fdoving> ssmasud: is X running?
[08:27] <ssmasud> fdoving: how do i check that??
[08:29] <fdoving> ssmasud: 'pidof X' - if it says some number, it's running.
[08:29] <fdoving> ssmasud: if it's silent it's not running.
[08:29] <ssmasud> fdoving:yes its running
[08:30] <ICXCNIKA> I wonder if it would be better to run Xubuntu on my Inspiron 5100 instead of Kubuntu.
[08:30] <stpg> Hi
[08:31] <stpg> Can anyone help me? I neet to resize my root partition.
[08:31] <jussi01> !partition
[08:31] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[08:33] <mike> I have a problem with my IDE slave disk (hdb). It was a slave under Windows 2000 (only data no OS) and I successfully mounted it on /media in Ubuntu with ntfs-3g driver
[08:33] <mike> But now it seems it doesn't mount anymore
[08:34] <ssmasud> fdoving: it was a user problem....i switched...its running fine..thanks
[08:34] <stpg> i have already resize and move all other partiotions but have no success with root partition. i have boot from live cd start qtparted, but it don't allow to modify ext3 fs. I've remove journal and now i am able only to resize root partition, but i need to move it (is is last partiotion on disk).
[08:34] <mike> When I 'sudo mount -a' it says: Failed to access '/dev/hdb1': No such file or directory
[08:35] <fdoving> stpg: moving the starting point isn't supported if i recall correctly.
[08:35] <mike> fdisk -ls shows me the /dev/hdb* partitions
[08:36] <Ahmuck> what is the preferd snmp package in gutsy?
[08:37] <fdoving> Ahmuck: snmp? (net-snmp)? - do you mean the server?
[08:37] <fdoving> in that case, get 'snmpd'
[08:39] <stpg> fdoving: I have successfully moved /dev/sda6 ext3 partition just mount off it and move with gparted. Is where any difference in functionality between gparted and gtparted?(i cannot install gparted on live cd)
[08:39] <jhutchins> Ahmuck: snmp is overkill for anything short of a campus network.
[08:39] <stpg> fdoving: but i cannot move /dev/sda7 partiotion with qtparted
[08:40] <fdoving> stpg: did you move the startingpoint of the partition? - gparted is maintained, qtparted is not to that degree. i recommend the gparted livecd, it's 50MB.
[08:40] <fdoving> !gparted | stpg
[08:40] <ubotu> stpg: GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[08:41] <jhutchins> gparted live CD is pretty easy.
[08:41] <mike> I tried to mount /dev/hdb1 with gparted but it says: Could not mount /dev/hdb1 on /media/Temp mount: special device /dev/hdb1 does not exist
[08:42] <mike> fdisk -ls DOES see the /dev/hdb* partitions
[08:42] <stpg> ok thanks. i try gparted
[08:42] <mike> How can i mount ???
[08:49] <jhutchins> mike: what does mount tell you when you use it directly?
[08:50] <mike> ntfsfix /dev/hdb1 also Failed. Says finally Volume is corrupt. You should run chkdsk
[08:50] <jhutchins> mike: Is there a filesystem on it?
[08:50] <stpg> I have installed gparted instead of qtparted and it allows me to grow partition (move startpoint). Thanks!
[08:50] <jhutchins> mike: sounds pretty messed up.  You can get chkdisk from a recent Windows install disk.
[08:51] <mike> jhutchins: mount gives me a long list but without any /dev/hdb* entries
[08:51] <jhutchins> stpg: Don't try to resize the partition you're running from.
[08:51] <mike> the filesystem is ntfs
[08:51] <jhutchins> mike: mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/hdb1 /media/Temp
[08:52] <jhutchins> mike: Where did the filesystem come from?  How did it get corrupted?
[08:52] <melomane> hi,where can i find list of available packages in kubuntu dvd?
[08:52] <mike> fdisk -ls gives me HPFS/NTFS (three times) and W95 Ext'd (LBA) one time
[08:53] <melomane> i found packages in cd in many websites,but i need packages of dvd
[08:53] <stpg> jhutchins: yes i know. i am useing gusty live cd right now
[08:54] <mike> jhutchins: mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/hdb1 /media/Temp gives me the aforementioned 'Failed to access '/dev/hdb1': No such file or directory'
[08:55] <fdoving> melomane: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/7.04/release/
[08:55] <mike> filesystem came from a Windows2000 Server Edition installation. At first I could mount the different partitions but suddenly I got problems
[08:56] <fdoving> melomane: that is files on the dvd, in addition to the live system.
[08:56] <melomane> fdoving: thanks, but i cant file list of packages on a kubuntu dvd
[08:57] <fdoving> melomane: like, on -the- dvd?
[08:57] <melomane> fdoving: ha ,i found, i must see manifest, right?
[08:58] <mike> If I recall well, the first check i did when the problems occured was a ls -lAF /media. This gave me question marks
[08:59] <mike> I think the filesystem got corrupted when i wrote a file to it.
[08:59] <fdoving> melomane: everything under /casper/ is the live system things iirc.
[09:00] <mike> any hd repairing software ? Can gparted do some tricks ? Google came up with testdisk
[09:01] <mike> GParted shows an exclamation mark to the hdb* partitions.
[09:03] <mike> Info I get for fi. /dev/hdb5: filesystem ntfs, size: 29.29 GB, path /dev/hdb5, status: not mounted, first sector: 37961658, last sector: 99394154, total sectors: 61432497
[09:03] <mike> Warning: The device /dev/hdb5 doesn't exist
[09:07] <uga> re
[09:12] <mike> any suggestions ?
[09:15] <newsense> i got vista and kubuntu and want to resize my partitions, what should i use ?
[09:15] <uga> newsense: first, a good backup tool. Then parted
[09:16] <Black_Monkey> does ubuntu do read/write for vfat out of the box?
[09:16] <Lynoure> mike: if you still use MS Windows, test it from that side, if you haven't yet
[09:16] <newsense> parted cool
[09:16] <uga> newsense: resizing partitions that contain data isn't too obvious
[09:16] <uga> make sure you have backups. I lost data that way
[09:16] <DaSkreech> Black_Monkey: yes
[09:16] <newsense> uga: so its complicated ?
[09:16] <Lynoure> mike: the Linux ntfs writing is not yet 100% perfect.
[09:17] <Black_Monkey> DaSkreech: oh right... because I have a microSD card, formatted in my nokia mobile, and I can't seem to write to it :-S
[09:17] <newsense> uga: both clean installs so i have nothing to backup right now
[09:17] <akrot> ai
[09:17] <DaSkreech> and is unlikely to become so
[09:17] <uga> newsense: not complicated per se. But not sure how safe it is, especially when you have a non-linux formatted partition. I did that with qtparted a few years back ( a frontend for parted ), and the app crashed while on the process...
[09:17] <akrot> english russians?
[09:17] <newsense> err that isnt cool
[09:17] <uga> sure using parted is safer
[09:17] <uga> than using a gui for it
[09:18] <uga> and that was a few years back as I said
[09:18] <DaSkreech> Less moving parts the better
[09:18] <newsense> ill try parted, if worst comes to worst ill reinstall both os's and set the sizes i really want during install
[09:18] <waylandbill> has anyone tried "SystemRescueCD" ?
[09:18] <Lynoure> waylandbill: yes, some time back
[09:19] <mike> Lynoure: can I recover the ntfs partitions so that i can copy my data from it ?
[09:19] <waylandbill> Lynoure: is it worthwhile?
[09:19] <DaSkreech> mike: yes
[09:19] <newsense> uga: parted options pretty cryptic or am i safe "newbie to resizing partitions" to try it
[09:19] <DaSkreech> mike: Once it's not physically damaged
[09:20] <Lynoure> waylandbill: It's handy for what it is meant for :)
[09:21] <mike> DaSkreech: I found something about Testdisk tool. Is that something for me or do you have a suggestion ?
[09:21] <ScorpKing> mike: can you put that hd into a box with xp?
[09:21] <DaSkreech> I missed it did you lose your filetable?
[09:22] <Wolf23> some body help!!
[09:22] <DaSkreech> !help
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[09:23] <mike> ScorpKing: no
[09:23] <Lynoure> Wolf23: So, what do you need help with? (not promising anything yet)
[09:23] <Wolf23> Lynoure:  thanx, but i have gnokiii not working fine
[09:23] <ScorpKing> mike: that suck. HandyRecovery works well to get stuff back from a ntfs disk tho.
[09:24] <stpg> mike: i can suggest you Hiren's BootCD. It helped me several times to recovery data when i drop my partition table. It has many useful utils
[09:25] <Lynoure> Wolf23: sorry, I don't know anything about gnokii. Maybe someone will be able to help you though, if you tell them how it does not work...
[09:26] <uga> ouch, newsense left
[09:26] <uga> heh, wb
[09:26] <Wolf23> Lynoure:  thanx :)
[09:26] <uga> newsense: it was pretty simple iirc
[09:26] <uga> newsense: you can use the frontends though gparted/qtparted
[09:27] <newsense> install qtparted and resize that way, ive seen your skillz in here so i trust your judgement
[09:27] <newsense> uga:much appreciated btw
[09:27] <mike> stpg: ok I will evaluate that if there are no commandline tools or ubuntu packages for recovering ntfs partitions
[09:28] <uga> newsense: notice that you can't resize a partition while you're using it
[09:28] <newsense> uga:once i get my partitions setup the way i want im gold, been trying to get the money for windows os and finally got vista
[09:28] <uga> for example your /home
[09:28] <DaSkreech> !info testdisk
[09:28] <ubotu> testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.5-1build1 (feisty), package size 550 kB, installed size 1784 kB
[09:28] <DaSkreech> mike ^^
[09:28] <newsense> uga: thats another unforseen problem, lol
[09:28] <uga> newsense: why don't you just install windows in a virtual machine
[09:29] <uga> like VirtualBox
[09:29] <uga> can the hardware handle it?
[09:29] <uga> ie, fast enough
[09:29] <newsense> uga: i want to give more disk space to my vista partition from this / part
[09:29] <uga> oh ok, so it's already installed
[09:29] <newsense> uga: like vmware ?
[09:29] <uga> yes, but VirtualBox is free
[09:30] <uga> unlike VMware Workstation
[09:30] <uga> you have vmware server and other alternatives, but vbox does nicely
[09:30] <newsense> uga: i only want windows to play cs:source, otherwise i dont run ms brand os's
[09:30] <uga> cs?
[09:30] <uga> c sharp?
[09:30] <DaSkreech> I forget are you akllowed to install vista in a VM?
[09:30] <newsense> uga: counter-strike
[09:30] <uga> oh lol
[09:30] <DaSkreech> counter strike
[09:31] <uga> DaSkreech: iirc vmware supports vista
[09:31] <newsense> uga: and i only own 98ser and vista ms os's
[09:31] <DaSkreech> uga: No
[09:31] <stpg> mike: there are free downloads (e.g. http://www.zshare.net/download/45098444367e/). I don't know if where are good linux tools for ntfs recovery. Hiren's boot cd halps me and it may halp you too8)
[09:31] <uga> DaSkreech: uhm... VirtualBox lists Vista on the OS list
[09:31] <DaSkreech> I mean the vista license does it allow you to?
[09:31] <uga> so it can be done
[09:31] <uga> DaSkreech: you're installing it on a machine, either real or virtual, so why not
[09:31] <DaSkreech> Not technical, legal
[09:31] <newsense> uga: i would love to just install vmware or wine and run the game that way, plays good in windows though :)
[09:31] <uga> as far as you install it on a single box
[09:31] <newsense> err :(
[09:32] <uga> DaSkreech: and he paid for it, so why give a d****mn about MS =)
[09:32] <uga> newsense: ??? on vmware you install windows
[09:32] <uga> it's windows
[09:33] <uga> so it must run fine, as far as it's fast enough
[09:33] <newsense> i meant cssource
[09:33] <uga> you need to put in the vista CD and install it first
[09:33] <uga> newsense: yes
[09:33] <uga> "plays good in windows though :)"
[09:33] <uga> vmware runs _Windows_
[09:33] <newsense> uga: i got vista and kubuntu and want to resize partitions atm
[09:33] <uga> not a clone
[09:33] <uga> okay
[09:36] <newsense> uga: sorry was thinking of some emulator i ran a few years back to run osx in debian
[09:36] <newsense> uga: had to have the image file of the osa for it
[09:42] <zeke> anyone know of any possible reason why I would have no icons in OpenOffice?
[09:42] <ubunturos> zeke: running Oo on?
[09:42] <zeke> Kubuntu
[09:42] <zeke> of course
[09:42] <zeke> gutsy
[09:43] <ubunturos> zeke: may be it is missing the kde bindings.
[09:43] <zeke> hmmm...what's the source name for those?
[09:43] <ubunturos> zeke: (sorry, assumed this was #kde)
[09:43] <ubunturos> zeke: not sure. Use Adept
[09:44] <zeke> alright
[09:44] <DaSkreech> zeke: You need the oo-kde package?
[09:45] <zeke> I think so...I have no icons and it's driving me nuts...fonts are all messed up too
[09:47] <zeke> I screwed up my last install of gutsy which was running fine for a month or two...I used the same disk and i'm having more problems than ever with this install
[09:48] <romuloo> a noob question: will be possible the online upgrade from kubuntu 7.04 to kubuntu 7.10?
[09:49] <ubunturos> zeke: may be you should wait till Oct 18 :)
[09:50] <Juacom99> does someone here program java??
[09:50] <sahin_h> romuloo: Yes, will be...
[09:50] <zeke> eh...the less hardware I have to carry around the better, and more of it works with gutsy than feisty
[09:50] <romuloo> thanks, sahin_h :)
[09:51] <romuloo> Juacom99: me
[09:51] <romuloo> i guess...
[09:51] <Juacom99> ok
[09:51] <pvandewyngaerde> anyone any experience with digital audio on kubuntu ?
[09:51] <ubunturos> Juacom99: I did (and dO)
[09:51] <Juacom99> ok
[09:51] <Juacom99> i got a little proyecy
[09:51] <Juacom99> a game
[09:52] <Juacom99> i wuoild like to make in java
[09:52] <Juacom99> *would
[09:52] <sahin_h> romuloo: I found a page for you, but it's wise to wait for the final version.
[09:52] <sahin_h> romuloo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades
[09:52] <Juacom99> but i don't want to make it alone
[09:52] <bjwebb> hi!
[09:52] <zeke> also, a symptom of this recent install...pressing the power button does not bring up the shutdown options
[09:53] <bjwebb> is gutsy's kde4 useable yet?
[09:53] <romuloo> sahin_h: i'll wait
[09:53] <Dr_willis> kde4 is not useable yet.. I think. :)
[09:53] <zeke> hoo ha...kde integration for OOo worked...thanks
[09:53] <pvandewyngaerde> no bjwebb
[09:53] <sahin_h> bjwebb: For development? Yes. For everyday use no.
[09:53] <Juacom99> basicli i'm trying to make a team to depelop the idea
[09:54] <Juacom99> is a basic game not to complicated
[09:54] <bjwebb> hmmm okay
[09:54] <bjwebb> have they got a meanu bar now atleast?
[09:54] <zeke> alright, one problem fixed...2 to go
[09:55] <sahin_h> bjwebb: However if you want to play with it, you can install, because the kde3 and the kde4 version very well separeted in Gutsy.
[09:55] <sahin_h> bjwebb: No menubar currently.
[09:55] <zeke> volume controls...the system volume can either be set to 0% or 11% and it doesn't affect the volume of anything so far as I can tell
[09:55] <sahin_h> bjwebb: However next beta just comming soon.
[09:55] <zeke> did that in Feisty too though
[09:56] <sahin_h> bjwebb: I think the kubuntu developers will provide you packages again for KDE4
[09:56] <zeke> any thoughts?
[09:56] <nlskj> how do u see ntfs partitions on kubuntu_
[09:56] <nlskj> ?
[09:57] <nlskj> can eny1 help?
[09:57] <zeke> as a vague hazy grey shape...
[09:57] <nlskj> thx a lot
[09:57] <nlskj> :))
[09:57] <zeke> np
[09:57] <zeke> there's a package you have to install...or some such thing
[09:57] <nlskj> i did
[09:58] <nlskj> dose'n work
[09:58] <zeke> ntfs-3g?
[09:58] <nlskj> ntfs configuration tool
[09:58] <nlskj> bullshit
[09:59] <bjwebb> sorry been lookin at summat else
[09:59] <zeke> and libntfs-*
[09:59] <bjwebb> sahin_h: when's the next beta btw
[09:59] <Shadow_mil> Has anyone else noticed a problem in KDE's screen saver
[09:59] <Shadow_mil> sometimes it works, others, it does no.
[09:59] <Shadow_mil> not*
[09:59] <sahin_h> bjwebb: october 8.
[09:59] <zeke> I don't use a screen saver...solly cholly
[10:00] <sahin_h> bjwebb: However sometimes the schedule is changing.
[10:00] <sahin_h> bjwebb: Here's a nice web page for you about the release dates:
[10:00] <gabor_> what is wmaster0 ???
[10:00] <sahin_h> bjwebb: http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule
[10:00] <bjwebb> kkthnx
[10:02] <zeke> holy carbuncles batman...there's an emu10k1/2 driver loader for my soundcard
[10:02] <zeke> :-D
[10:03] <romuloo> ah, another question...
[10:03] <romuloo> how i make firefox the default browser on KDE?
[10:03] <zeke> ummm
[10:03] <zeke> lemme see
[10:04] <zeke> hmmm...mine's a bit touchy
[10:04] <fdoving> romuloo: kmenu -> system settings -> default applications -> web browser -> write firefox in the box after selecting "in the following browser:"
[10:05] <zeke> try edit>preferences>and look for something about checking to see if it default when you start it up
[10:05] <zeke> that too
[10:07] <romuloo> fdoving: i have done (???, my english is terrible :S) this at home and didn't works fine, but here in university worked
[10:07] <romuloo> fdoving: i will try again at home
[10:07] <romuloo> fdoving, zeke: thank you
[10:08] <zeke> no prob
[10:08] <fdoving> romuloo: you're welcome, good luck with your home-machine :)
[10:08] <romuloo> :)
[10:14] <romuloo> the kubuntu version upgrade is beta :S
[10:14] <NickPresta> romuloo, indeed. For another 11 days, I believe
[10:15] <romuloo> NickPresta: ah, great
[10:16] <uga> I wonder if I'll get the bootup splash screen working again by then, or I'll have to hack the kernel
[10:18] <uga> !mirrors
[10:18] <ubotu> Kubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php
[10:18] <uga> uhm, I was looking for the mirror selector app
[10:18] <uga> there was one, right?
[10:18] <zeke> I was talking to you yesterday wasn't I uga?
[10:19] <uga> yes, not sure what about, but yes
[10:19] <jjesse> ok i have a question about 64 bit kubuntu gutsy beta
[10:19] <jjesse> anyone using it?
[10:19] <uga> jjesse: yes
[10:19] <zeke> running 64bit os from 32bit os
[10:19] <uga> zeke: ah yes, I remember. In theory it works at least for intels
[10:19] <uga> a guy said he had done it with vmware
[10:20] <zeke> it was a success, though I had to upgrade my ram quite a bit
[10:20] <jjesse> ok on my new dell d830 from work, i just get a black screen with the live cd
[10:20] <uga> congrats
[10:20] <zeke> thanks
[10:20] <uga> jjesse: yeah. Disable splash on the live CD
[10:20] <uga> possibly that will do
[10:20] <jjesse> ok what is that command?
[10:20] <uga> at least you'll get a terminal
[10:20] <uga> jjesse: F6 on the bootup menu
[10:20] <uga> and edit the line
[10:20] <uga> remove splash, silent...
[10:20] <NickPresta> jjesse, I believe the boot option is 'nosplash'
[10:20] <jjesse> uga then i can install?
[10:21] <NickPresta> jjesse, or listen to uga ;)
[10:21] <ScorpKing> jjesse: or press <CTRL>+<ALT>+<+> or <CTRL>+<ALT>+<-> to change the resolution.
[10:21] <jjesse> NickPresta ok trying that hold on
[10:21] <uga> jjesse: yes. As far as X runs fine on your graphics card, yes
[10:21] <zeke> anyone know how i can change the global shortcut for the sound system?
[10:21] <zeke> not just alsa
[10:22] <uga> ScorpKing: that works after the bootup starts?
[10:22] <zeke> ?
[10:22] <ScorpKing> in X yes
[10:22] <uga> ahk
[10:22] <uga> ScorpKing: the bad thing is he'll be left without a terminal even
[10:22] <zeke> mainly volume control
[10:22] <ScorpKing> uga: why?
[10:23] <uga> ScorpKing: just like here. Unless I disable the splash, I get no terminal at all. Not even the vga=791 mode that worked on feisty works in gutsy
[10:23] <nosrednaekim> nixternal: heh... did you see Distrogue's review of kubuntu?
[10:23] <uga> all black
[10:23] <ScorpKing> ah ok.
[10:23] <zeke> ???
[10:23] <uga> zeke: all kde shortcuts are configureable in kcontrol
[10:24] <uga> zeke: kcontrol->regional and accessibility->keyboard shortcuts
[10:24] <nosrednaekim> zeke: or.. system settings -> keyboard and mouse-> keyboard shortcuts
[10:24] <uga> zeke: uhm... I don't see volume control ones there, though =(
[10:25] <ScorpKing> uga: when i first started using linux it booted to a black screen everytime i changed the resolution. i reinstalled everytime that happened. that wasn't very funny. lol
[10:25] <ikichi> hi
[10:25] <zeke> I'll try kcontrol cause the latter isn't working
[10:25] <uga> zeke: ah, I see.. run kmix, settings->configure global shortcuts
[10:25] <jjesse> uga: thanks i now get a graphical scrreen
[10:25] <NickPresta> ScorpKing, I did that too. I remember reinstalling Debian because Aptitude failed to fetch an archive =(
[10:25] <uga> jjesse: congrats. And np
[10:25] <jjesse> wow it looks really nice on this one
[10:25] <zeke> I tried that...apparently the system sound is not the same as the master channel in alsa
[10:26] <zeke> at least not on my comp
[10:26] <ScorpKing> NickPresta: that's how we learn i guess. hehe.
[10:26] <uga> zeke: uhm, then I cant' tell
[10:26] <NickPresta> ScorpKing, heh, yep.
[10:26] <nosrednaekim> zeke: right click on kmix and select the master channel
[10:26] <uga> zeke: if you know a cmd line that could do that, you could make a shortcut to run a small script
[10:26] <jjesse> interseting everything looks good excpet didn't detect audio
[10:27] <uga> jjesse: lspci |grep -i sound or grep -i audio
[10:27] <boubbin> ehm, how to mount fat32 from commandline :/ ?
[10:27] <uga> and see if there's any module that works with that soundcard
[10:28] <uga> boubbin: mount /dev/sdfoo /mnt/myfatdir
[10:28] <jjesse> audio device intel coproration 82801H (ICH8 Family)
[10:28] <nosrednaekim> boubbin: "sudo mount <device> /mnt"
[10:28] <uga> boubbin: you can specify -t vfat, but it shouldn't be necessary
[10:28] <ScorpKing> i have a local apt-move repo. can i use it in gusty later and just download the updates?
[10:28] <boubbin> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[10:28] <uga> jjesse: I believe I had ICH5 on my prev box
[10:28] <zeke> I got no clue...before I ruined my last installation beyond all repair it was working ok with some usb speakers
[10:28] <boubbin> boubbin@city-of-the-future:/media$ sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hdd1 /doze
[10:28] <boubbin> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdd1,
[10:28] <jjesse> any idea if it wioll work once i install?
[10:28] <nosrednaekim> uga: what... your dir needs to go on a diet?
[10:29] <nosrednaekim> boubbin:  put a "-t fat" in there
[10:29] <uga> nosrednaekim: =)
[10:29] <uga> jjesse: searching... a second
[10:29] <nosrednaekim> umm "-t vfat"
[10:29] <ScorpKing> lovre: you here?
[10:29] <uga> jjesse: there's a bug report on it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/122560
[10:29] <boubbin> nosrednaekim :
[10:29] <boubbin> boubbin@city-of-the-future:/media$ sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hdd1 /doze
[10:29] <boubbin> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdd1,
[10:30] <uga> jjesse: there seems to be at least a partial solution there. Maybe even new kernels fix it
[10:31] <zeke> it's the <Fn>+<up/down arrows> that changes the system sound...I don't know what they are mapped to
[10:31] <nosrednaekim> boubbin: do a "-t auto"
[10:31] <jjesse> uga: thanks checking bug report
[10:31] <zeke> they aren't mapped to anything in kmix
[10:31] <uga> jjesse: google rocks ;)
[10:31] <zeke> and system sound goes from 0% to 11% with no audible change in anything
[10:32] <uga> zeke: neither here. Oh, I get same thing (11% and doesnt' go up). But that's not a normal shortcut
[10:32] <zeke> that's as far as it will fo
[10:32] <uga> zeke: you're using kmilo multimedia keys support I believe
[10:32] <zeke> I didn't think so
[10:32] <uga> same as me
[10:32] <uga> the gray colored OSD
[10:32] <zeke> yeah...
[10:33] <uga> that's the kmilo service. Somebody else asked. I couldnt' figure out how to configure shortcuts
[10:33] <uga> I don't think it's much configureable...
[10:33] <boubbin> nosrednaekim boubbin@city-of-the-future:/media$ sudo mount -t auto /dev/hdd1 /doze
[10:33] <boubbin> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[10:33] <nosrednaekim> zeke: go into global shortcuts in kmix and define one of the sortcuts. click advnace, check multikeymode and then press the hotkey
[10:33] <nosrednaekim> zeke: I had to reset my hotkeys.
[10:33] <nosrednaekim> in that method
[10:34] <uga> nosrednaekim: and they still work with osd? ie, kmilo
[10:34] <nosrednaekim> humm
[10:34] <nosrednaekim> uga: nah... but I prefer it to work period ;)
[10:34] <uga> lol, true
[10:34] <zeke> I got that part, but when I'm working and have to mute it really fast its a pain in the arse to have to open the lid and try to remember what keys I have to push
[10:34] <uga> I was just asking. I love the OSD
[10:35] <uga> nosrednaekim: I believe it can be fixed using xmodmap though
[10:35] <uga> I think I've done that creating my own mapping of keys. Managed to do most stuff iirc
[10:35] <uga> with another kb
[10:35] <uga> (long ago though)
[10:36] <jjesse> why can't qtparted resize ntfs partitions :(
[10:37] <nosrednaekim> zeke: what do you want to mute? amarok has its own mute...
[10:37] <uga> nosrednaekim: yeah, changing kb layout right now makes other keys to work. So I just need to create a new layout
[10:37] <uga> jjesse: uhmpf. I didn't remember such a limitation :/
[10:37] <jjesse> can't resize the partitions on my drive to dual boot windows
[10:38] <zeke> yeah, but my usb speakers have volume control on the side and it is for some reason mapped to the kmilo keys
[10:38] <xenol> plz how can i enable kmix (system volume) in tray?
[10:39] <nosrednaekim> zeke: ah... ok
[10:39] <lovre> ScorpKing: i am now, but im off in a min.. ?
[10:39] <zeke> I work in trains and I sometimes have to turn the music off really fast, yet if I leave my laptop open then I can't see other things that I need to see...
[10:39] <nosrednaekim> jjesse: is the partition currently mounted?
[10:39] <jjesse> nosrednaekim: how do I tell?  just booted into the live cd
[10:40] <zeke> would the kmilo-legacy package only be for older legacy-style keyboards?
[10:40] <ScorpKing> lovre: you asked me the other day to help you install a theme. i still have all the links.
[10:40] <nosrednaekim> jjesse: oh... NM. ;)
[10:40] <zeke> It worked the way I wanted it too once or twice before I had to reinstall
[10:40] <lovre> ScorpKing: yes, i did. Im off now, could you paste the links in pm? Or ill talk to you tomorrow?
[10:40] <zeke> I never did figure out what I did to make it work like that
[10:40] <lovre> ScorpKing: Btw, Thank for you time m8, i appriciate it very much.
[10:41] <zeke> same thing with pressing the power button and getting the shutdown options
[10:41] <zeke> doesn't do that anymore either and i can't find a darn thing about it
[10:44] <ScorpKing> lovre: np. got the links?
[10:45] <lovre> ScorpKing: ye :D
[10:45] <uga> zeke: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeutils/+bug/118723
[10:45] <lovre> bye all
[10:45] <uga> zeke: 11% thing reported there
[10:45] <zeke> hmmm
[10:45] <hansmbakker__> hi
[10:45] <nosrednaekim> hey hansmbakker__
[10:46] <zeke> bugger...I wish walmart still sold the creative speakers that I used to have...but then they never have what you need when you need it
[10:46] <zeke> same with the usb floppy drive they stopped selling as soon as I needed one
[10:47] <zeke> and the sound blaster live that they stopped selling as soon as I needed one
[10:47] <zeke> and any number of other things
[10:48] <zeke> and then everything is for iPod now too
[10:48] <nosrednaekim> and the chocolate bars which were on sale for 1/4 price ;)
[10:48] <zeke> it's the Podscourge of the iGeneration
[10:48] <mustang^> how would I look at my dhcp network info?  I.E. lease obtained, expiration, etc
[10:49] <zeke> make me want to shout obscenities
[10:49] <hansmbakker__> does anybody know why adept manager removes more packages than i selected?
[10:49] <zeke> because some of them were probably dependencies
[10:49] <hansmbakker__> for example, i wanted to remove kde4base*, and not only those packages were removed
[10:49] <hansmbakker__> but also kdm, digikam, etcetc
[10:49] <hansmbakker__> very strange
[10:50] <zeke> they probably relied on kde4base to function
[10:50] <Lynoure> hansmbakker__: anything that depended on it would go.
[10:50] <nosrednaekim> mustang^: maybe here: /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.leases
[10:50] <hansmbakker__> but how can it depend on it as it did not depend on it before i installed kde4base8
[10:50] <hansmbakker__> i meant kde4base*
[10:51] <zeke> like how I had to reinstall Kubuntu because I deleted cupsys*
[10:51] <zeke> and it took way more out than just the cups part
[10:51] <zeke> and then I couldn't boot
[10:51] <hansmbakker__> is this a bug, or is this expected behaviour?
[10:51] <nosrednaekim> zeke: yeah... you have to be careful about that ;)
[10:52] <zeke> tell me about it
[10:52] <zeke> the only real stability problems I've had with *Ubuntu has been with the stability of my decisions
[10:52] <lordhelmet> hey all, i downloaded a theme from kde-look.org and have no clue how to get this installed. it's just three files. the color scheme was easy as i just imported it, but the other two have no information on how to install
[10:52] <mustang^> Thanks for the help...that's got it
[10:53] <zeke> ignorace and inexperience
[10:53] <zeke> and now I must go smoke
[10:54] <hansmbakker__> zeke: shall i post a bug report about it?
[10:54] <zeke> sure
[10:55] <nosrednaekim> !themes | lordhelmet
[10:55] <ubotu> lordhelmet: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[10:55] <zeke> and about your question...you may not have had kde4base installed but kde4base* is anything with kde4base and then something else in the file name
[10:55] <hansmbakker__> yes i know
[10:55] <zeke> ok
[10:56] <hansmbakker__> it was just a short way of saying kde4base-dev
[10:56] <zeke> ah
[10:56] <hansmbakker__> and kde4base-data
[10:56] <hansmbakker__> etc
[10:56] <zeke> exactly
[10:56] <ScorpKing> what is the window called that comes up with the shutdown, suspend, logout, hibernate and restart options/icons on it?
[10:56] <zeke> shutdown options
[10:56] <zeke> or some such
[10:56] <lordhelmet> !changethemes
[10:56] <ubotu> To change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.
[10:56] <ScorpKing> lol
[10:56] <zeke> it used to come up when I pressed the power button
[10:56] <zeke> but not anymore
[10:57] <ScorpKing> lordhelmet: that for me?
[10:58] <nosrednaekim> for him.
[10:58] <ScorpKing> ok
[10:59] <ScorpKing> anyway, i want to know what the name of the shudown optios thingie is. eg, /usr/bin/goawayscreen
[10:59] <ScorpKing> options*
[11:01] <justme> does someone has a hp dv9033cl ?
[11:01] <nosrednaekim> ScorpKing: "sudo shutdown -r now " ;)
[11:02] <ScorpKing> :P and how can i change the background/layout of that? lol
[11:02] <hansmbakker__> i must go now
[11:02] <hansmbakker__> bye!
[11:02] <nosrednaekim> justme: justyou ;)
[11:02] <ScorpKing> bye
[11:03] <hansmbakker__> zeke: i also posted your confirmation about that adept bug
[11:03] <hansmbakker__> with those cupsys packages
[11:03] <zeke> pardon?
[11:03] <hansmbakker__> see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsaplayer/+bug/83593
[11:04] <nosrednaekim> justme: check out www.linux-laptop.net
[11:04] <justme> nosrednaekim: :/ i need the lspci output for this
[11:04] <Fleck> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php << i'm here, reading, but, i don't have file: /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde :(
[11:04] <zeke> oh
[11:04] <zeke> thanks
[11:04] <nosrednaekim> justme: for what?
[11:04] <nosrednaekim> Fleck: install "kdeworkspace"
[11:04] <Pollywog> I am having difficulty getting my rt2500 working in Feisty
[11:04] <hansmbakker__> Fleck: you should install kdebase-workspace* instead of kde4base*
[11:05] <Fleck> i did
[11:05] <hansmbakker__> oh
[11:05] <hansmbakker__> then i don't know
[11:05] <hansmbakker__> sorry
[11:05] <hansmbakker__> i just installed that, and it worked
[11:05] <nosrednaekim> Fleck: sure you are using beta2 packages?
[11:05] <hansmbakker__> kde4base did not work
[11:05] <hansmbakker__> bye
[11:06] <justme> nosrednaekim: i'm installing mac, and i need to knwo what drivers to install
[11:06] <Fleck> nosrednaekim i don't have a clue, i added fasty backport in sources.list
[11:06] <nosrednaekim> Fleck: oh ok.. thats beta2 then
[11:06] <nosrednaekim> justme: MAC OSX?
[11:06] <Pollywog> the network configurator just crashes
[11:06] <nosrednaekim> Pollywog: use iwconfig, iwlist and dhclient
[11:06] <Pollywog> knetworkmanager
[11:06] <adi_> hey
[11:07] <adi_> does any body can guide me to install msttcorefonts in kubuntu 7.04
[11:07] <Pollywog> nosrednaekim: what if I do not have an IP address that changes?  should I still use dhclient?
[11:07] <adi_> ???
[11:07] <nosrednaekim> Fleck: are you sure you have kdebase-workspace installed?
[11:07] <Fleck> kdebase-workspace is already the newest version.
[11:08] <nosrednaekim> Pollywog: no... but thats alot more complicated... use the "network settings manager" in  system settings
[11:08] <Fleck> apt-get install output
[11:08] <adi_> msttcorefonts help needed....
[11:08] <Pollywog> nosrednaekim: already tried that, no success
[11:08] <justme> nosrednaekim: yes
[11:09] <nosrednaekim> justme: haha...well check out that site I gave you and someone there might have one. and good luck ;)
[11:09] <adi_> how can I install them
[11:09] <justme> nosrednaekim: no one :(
[11:09] <Pollywog> I think I will have to get a laptop that has kubuntu installed and wifi already working
[11:09] <Pollywog> :)
[11:09] <nosrednaekim> justme: check #ubuntu
[11:09] <nosrednaekim> justme: although that IS rather off-topic
[11:09] <justme> nosrednaekim: already tried :(
[11:09] <nosrednaekim> justme: can't you just boot a livecD?
[11:10] <zeke> is there a dictionary for openoffice?
[11:10] <justme> nosrednaekim: sure, but im on mac right now... if i only knew a command lspci-like :)
[11:11] <nosrednaekim> zeke: I think you can get one...
[11:11] <zeke> there's a thesaurus
[11:11] <xjkx> i need the firmware of my wireless network card, what should i do
[11:11] <adi_> msttcorefonts help install nedeed
[11:11] <adi_> .......
[11:12] <xjkx> my broadcom dell wireless 1390 doesnt work, they told me i need the firmware
[11:12] <Fleck> nosrednaekim :( so? :(
[11:13] <nosrednaekim> justme: jst boot a liveCD..
[11:13] <nosrednaekim> Fleck: dunno
[11:13] <ScorpKing> xjkx: does it tell you which firmware?
[11:13] <ScorpKing> xjkx: lol. dmesg usually shows that.
[11:14] <root_____> hi
[11:14] <xjkx> ScorpKing, the machine isnt here but what when i get this name?
[11:14] <ScorpKing> xjkx: google or come back here. :)
[11:15] <xjkx> ScorpKing, i googled many times, they tell different things
[11:15] <xjkx> I even showed to #ubuntu-devel it
[11:15] <timbo__> hi
[11:15] <ScorpKing> xjkx: i can give you a link but not sure if that will work for you. one sec...
[11:16] <nosrednaekim> hi timbo__
[11:16] <ScorpKing> xjkx: my favourite link - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty :D
[11:17] <nosrednaekim> justme: http://www4.ncsu.edu/~ambrown4/linuxondv9000.html
[11:17] <timbo__> I,m having a problem, in kde it cant see my 80 gig removable hard drive but gnome mounts it
[11:17] <timbo__> i have went through konq trying to figure it out, any suggestions?
[11:18] <xjkx> ScorpKing, its better than the one i had, anyway, it still tells me to apt-get while i have no connection
[11:18] <timbo__> not removable i mean external
[11:18] <ScorpKing> xjkx: is that your card?
[11:19] <xjkx> yes
[11:19] <ScorpKing> xjkx: go to "If that doesn't work, [WWW]  look here"
[11:19] <ScorpKing> xjkx: download that package and copy it to you box. install it and it will work.
[11:22] <xjkx> ScorpKing, you mean here? http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/dists/feisty-cafuego/bcm43xx/ then all i have to do is dpkg -i bcm43xx-firmware_1.3-1ubuntu2_all.deb and it will suddenly work?
[11:23] <xjkx> the .tar.gz package will probably not work because i will need to build essentials
[11:23] <ScorpKing> xjkx: yeah, that's the firmware. that's what i did. :D
[11:24] <xjkx> ScorpKing, and you did no other config at all? just installed it? ;o will do tomorrow on the machine :)
[11:24] <ScorpKing> xjkx: just like that. :)
[11:25] <ScorpKing> xjkx: one problem tho...
[11:25] <ScorpKing> xjkx: i can't use authenticated connections. still working on a fix. it goes to 28% and then stops.
[11:27] <Capt_Carrot> i have a bit of a quandry, a little conundrum
[11:28] <Daisuke_Ido> i need to use the laptop, but fsck wants to have its way with it
[11:28] <Daisuke_Ido> how can i stop the fsck check on boot?
[11:28] <timbo__> I,m having a problem, in kde it cant see my 80 gig removable hard drive but gnome mounts it
[11:28] <emilsedgh> ScorpKing: i did have such problem, but its fine with ndiswrapper
[11:28] <Daisuke_Ido> i just need to get my homework done, and i'll be set
[11:28] <ScorpKing> emilsedgh: i don't have ndiswrapper installed yet. looking at it... :)
[11:29] <emilsedgh> ScorpKing: thas easy to install
[11:29] <ScorpKing> apt-get?
[11:30] <emilsedgh> ScorpKing: apt-get install ndiswrapper-common (i think)
[11:30] <emilsedgh> ScorpKing: then, get your Windows Driver for wifi
[11:30] <ScorpKing> Daisuke_Ido: i think i saw someone with that problem here before. they had to delete a file in / if i remember correctly.
[11:31] <ScorpKing> emilsedgh: thanks. i got the drivers somewhere and linux ones are installed.
[11:32] <emilsedgh> ScorpKing: if you wanted to run ndiswrapper, you should try win drivers ;)
[11:32] <ScorpKing> emilsedgh: the card work with open networks tho.
[11:33] <emilsedgh> ScorpKing: i hope these will be solved soon
[11:33] <ScorpKing> yeah, me 2
[11:38] <ScorpKing> emilsedgh: hehe - http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/index.php?showtopic=38866
[11:43] <Fleck> i think (hope), that i did all to install kde4 but when i login in kdm - it just restarts... :( anyone?
[11:44] <ScorpKing> i see Disassocation with wpa_supplicant is fixed in ndiswrapper v1.48
[11:44] <ScorpKing> hmmm...
[11:44] <ScorpKing> and (Re)Association / (Re)Authentication issues with wpa_supplicant with 2.6.23 kernels fixed.
[11:45] <ScorpKing> maybe one day it will be easy
[11:55] <Pollywog> I had wifi working but can't get it to work after a reinstall, maybe I need to install the driver from serialmonkey
[11:56] <Pollywog> I think that is what is causing the problem, I am almost sure I used rt2500 from serialmonkey last time
[11:57] <Pollywog> what is a good wifi card for kubuntu?
[11:57] <Pollywog> and don't say Ralink ;)
[12:00] <Pollywog> can networkmanager be used in KDE?
[12:00] <Dragnslcr> !knetworkmanager
[12:01] <Pollywog> ty
[12:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about knetworkmanager - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:01] <Dragnslcr> !info knetworkmanager
[12:01] <Pollywog> no that is the one that does not work for me
[12:01] <ubotu> knetworkmanager: User friendly KDE frontend for NetworkManager. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu12 (feisty), package size 232 kB, installed size 1496 kB
[12:01] <Pollywog> not for wifi anyway
[12:01] <kristjan_> anyone's else lipstik style has broken gradients? (kde-style; using kubuntu package)
[12:03] <acomaco> how can i check what type of RAM i got?
[12:03] <ScorpKing> Pollywog: from what i can see from google pages you'll have to use wifi from CLI to get it working.
[12:04] <chn> hello anyone knows the adress for TV Card Settings ?
[12:04] <Pollywog> ScorpKing: that is how I had to do it before Feisty, in CLI
[12:04] <ScorpKing> acomaco: sudo lshw | grep RAM
[12:05] <Pollywog> ScorpKing: it also worked in FreeBSD on CLI
[12:05] <ScorpKing> Pollywog: it looks like that will be the way for now. it sucks tho
[12:05] <Pollywog> ScorpKing: yep... ty
[12:06] <acomaco> ScorpKing: didnt get anything..
[12:07] <ScorpKing> acomaco: try sudo lshw | less . i got 'description: SDRAM Synchronous'  with sudo lshw | grep RAM
[12:08] <ScorpKing> acomaco: or maybe sudo lshw | grep DDR
[12:09] <gan|y|med> hi
[12:10] <gan|y|med> i have a strange issue when moving windows
[12:10] <acomaco> DIMM Synchronous 533 MHz...
[12:10] <acomaco> are they good or shit?
[12:11] <gan|y|med> if i move a window above an ooo window, it does not only take up to 30% of cpu time for xorg (which seems to be normal), but also requires around 30% for soffice.bin. as soon as the window leaves the ooo window (e.g. is put on a small browser window) the issue disappears
[12:12] <gan|y|med> in general, ooo seems to be rather slow, especially impress
[12:12] <gan|y|med> any ideas, why?
[12:12] <gan|y|med> i am running a pentium m 1.8 ghz, fglrx drivers
[12:12] <acomaco> lol they are cheap as hell..2gb for 44$
[12:17] <Juacom99> hi
[12:17] <Juacom99> anyone kniow any program like alexandria?
[12:18] <tobias> ich bin raus, tsch tsch
[12:20] <gonzalo> hola gente
[12:20] <gonzalo> que tal?
[12:20] <Tm_T> !es | gonzalo
[12:20] <ubotu> gonzalo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:21] <Pollywog> oh I almost have wifi working now in CLI but the light on the laptop goes on and off
[12:21] <gonzalo> ok boy
[12:22] <gonzalo> i actually don't know how to get to the spanish room, could you let me know how to do it please?
[12:22] <Tm_T>  /join #kubuntu-es
[12:23] <gonzalo> ok i actually found it
[12:23] <gonzalo> thank you and good bye
[12:27] <gan|y|med> ok, impress uses up to 90% cpu usage when scrolling backwards in pres mode. any ideas?
[12:27] <markgreene> Hey guys. I am installing steam using wine, and I went to install winetools so I could install the fonts i need easily. When I run winetools from the command line it says that it cannot locate a file from the libgtk library, but that library is installed. So where do I go from here?
[12:29] <gan|y|med> when is the release date for gutsy?
[12:29] <markgreene> gan|y|med: It's in eleven days
[12:30] <markgreene> gan|y|med: Found at the top of the page http://ubuntu.com ;-)
[12:30] <neversfelde> mhh. in Germany it should be ten days :D
[12:30] <markgreene> neversfelde: The world is flat! I keep forgetting
[12:30] <gan|y|med> yeah, sorry, i am busy researching other stuff, so i thought i might "use" you ;)
[12:31] <neversfelde> markgreene: rofl
[12:31] <markgreene> gan|y|med: Use away. That's the easiest question I have ever answered in here!
[12:31] <markgreene> Anyone here have winetools working in the Beta of Gusty?
[12:32] <neversfelde> markgreene: I do not use wine, but I have Gutsy installed
[12:33] <neversfelde> so I can try
[12:33] <gan|y|med> markgreene: wanna have a tougher one?
[12:33] <neversfelde> du you have an url where I can get winetools?
[12:34] <CPrompt^> how can i fix broken packages?  I tried to upgrade a couple of libs which failed.  Now 2 of them are "BROKEN(installed)"
[12:34] <gan|y|med> hmm, installing kde 4. let's have a look
[12:34] <gan|y|med> CPrompt^: apt-get -f install maybe
[12:35] <CPrompt^> gan|y|med : do i just need to do "apt-get -f install" with the package name?
[12:35] <gan|y|med> no, just the command
[12:35] <gan|y|med> apt is clever
[12:35] <CPrompt^> gotcha.  I'll give it a go now ;)
[12:36] <gan|y|med> gosh, either my connection is rubbish or some 100 people had the same idea at the exact same time as i did
[12:36] <gan|y|med> CPrompt^: you could also try dpkg-reconfigure package
[12:37] <markgreene> gan|y|med: To install a package from the command line you need to prepend the word
[12:37] <CPrompt^> gan|y|med :  i think I will try the second option.  It reported 17 packages will be removed.  One of them bing kde-core  :0
[12:37] <markgreene> gan|y|med: "sudo". The command should look "sudo apt-get install WHATEVER
[12:37] <CPrompt^> markgreene : i'm trying to fix a broken package
[12:39] <markgreene> CPrompt^: My experience is lacking. I have always taken the cheap way out and had Synaptic do that for me. If you go into Synaptic Package Manager there is an option in the menus to fix broken packages
[12:39] <MrMazda> Does gutsy have a startup option that allows to use legacy drivers instead of libata for IDE HDs?