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asacBernardo: ping :) ... pleae test the ubuntu16~ppa1 from my ppa: http://ppa.launchpad.net/asac/ubuntu/pool/main/n/network-manager/12:32
asacBernardo: you are the one and only who can reproduce those crashes without waiting a day. so please give me feedback ;)12:32
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asacUbulette: currently testing webrunner ... they appear to have issues like:01:35
asachttp://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/Screenshot-WebRunner.png01:36
asacany idea? i have xulrunner dom-inspector installed now, but that doesn't make a differene01:36
asaci now linked the extensions folder to the xulrunner one ... still same result01:47
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BernardoI can no longer reproduce those crashes... :( (or is it :) ?)02:34
BernardoWith the latest updates (this morning), wifi is working again02:34
Bernardothe only problem I have now is that it connects by default to any open network in the neighbourhood02:35
Bernardoand the media centre pc that I removed networkmanager so that it would set up my wifi from /etc/network/interfaces, as it is a mouse/keyboard less box.02:35
Bernardobut if you want me to test that version, it's ok, I'll download it now and test it here on the laptop02:36
Ubulettehi02:50
Ubuletteasac, one webapp in particular or all of them ?02:50
asacall02:51
asacBernardo: which versio ndo you have installed?02:51
asacUbulette: i wanted to write a launchpad webapp :)02:52
asac(in my spare time)02:52
asacBernardo: maybe you already had my ppa in your sources.list, so it was fixed by that package?02:54
asac(there wasn't really a network-manager update in the last few days)02:54
Ubuletteasac, seems your xul is borked02:55
asachow?02:55
asacUbulette: oh wait02:56
asacUbulette: ok it broke because it was happy with xulrunner 1.802:58
asac... can we please disallow everything below 1.9?02:58
asac(i had xulrunner from gutsy installed as well)02:58
asacremoving xulrunner helped02:58
Ubulettewebrunner is supposed to run under 1.8 or 1.9 yet I've only tested /w 1.902:59
asacUbulette: ok application.ini fixing helps03:01
asacjust use 1.9a8 as minVersion there03:01
asachmm03:01
asacUbulette: debian xulrunner doesn't provide inspector extension03:02
asacso lets just raise minVersion to 1.9a03:04
Ubulettehmm. it is not mandatory03:04
Ubuletteis it ?03:04
asacwhat is mandatory?03:06
asacminVersion?03:06
asacUbulette: have you ever seen this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/653/03:07
asacwhat does only absoluete run-path mean?03:07
asacok i see th e problem03:19
Ubuletteasac, problem is that I start webrunner with /usr/bin/xulrunner so if you prefered 1.8, you're doomed03:27
asacUbulette: so it was the alternative? not the gre.d entry?03:32
asacUbulette: ok i think we want a link /usr/bin/xulrunner-1.9 then03:36
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asacUbulette: did you recover from the xul branch diverging you had yesterady?03:37
Ubuletteyes03:37
asacok thanks.03:37
Ubuletteasac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/656/03:45
Ubuletteis it enough or do I need Replaces or something ?03:45
asacwhat is your goal?03:46
Ubulettehaving a xul+video that I can just substitute to the real one without having to add it everywhere03:48
asaci think you need replaces. but if possible allow to return to xulrunne-1.9 by just install xulrunner-1.903:49
asacas well03:49
Ubulettethat's the plan03:49
Ubuletteso i need provides+conflicts+replaces right ?03:51
asacthats need to upgrade to it ... no idea if can go back then though :)03:51
asacwhat is upstream state on this?03:52
Ubulettemoz ?03:52
asacyes, state on the video bug03:52
Ubulettemozilla bug 38226703:53
ubotuMozilla bug 382267 in DOM: HTML "Implement WHATWG Video spec" [Enhancement,New]  http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38226703:53
Ubulettethe author said on his blog that it may not be ready for ff303:54
asacUbulette: isn't the 3rd party lib dependent part isolated in a component?04:00
Ubulettei think those 3rd party are built as .a and bundled within libuxl04:01
asacyes unfortunately this is the case04:02
asacUbulette: why don't yuo just provide a separate archive for _experimental_ feature?04:03
asacand name the package the same ... but just with a greater upstream version?04:03
asaclike 1.9a8+video04:03
asac?04:03
Ubuletteno, otherwise I'll just had to add those patches in my bot.04:15
Bernardohi asac04:18
Bernardosorry, I had to leave04:19
BernardoI have version 0.6.5-0ubuntu1504:19
asacBernardo: ok .. you sure you cannot reproduce the crashes?04:21
asacit usually happens if you roam :)04:21
asacBernardo: i just wonder because you already had ubuntu15 before, right?04:23
Ubulettedamn, my xul segfault with webrunner now04:30
Ubuletteasac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/660/04:38
Bernardoyes, I had ubuntu1504:42
Bernardobut the dbus and kernel and restricted modules updates fixed something04:43
BernardoI can try switching back and forth between the 2 WPA and the open network I have here, if you want04:43
asacBernardo: please04:44
asacBernardo: please try it a few times .)04:44
Bernardook, let me launch kvirc on another machine and check04:45
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jbspreparing to enter as Bernardo... :)04:46
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Bernardook, now time to check if I can crash ubuntu15 on the laptop04:47
asacBernardo: thanks04:47
Bernardofirst switch to anothe wpa network (fonera) no problems04:48
Bernardotrying the open network now04:48
Bernardostalls after stage 2, with "eth1: link timed out."04:49
BernardoI've chosen the open network again, and it stalls again04:50
Bernardotrying a different open network (vodafone)04:51
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jbs_ok, it seems now only wpa works04:56
Bernardocouldn't connect to any open network04:57
Bernardobut no crashes04:57
Ubulettehmm, my crash comes for mozilla bug 36268205:01
ubotuMozilla bug 362682 in GFX: Thebes "Some Unicode characters are no longer displayed with certain fonts (e.g. Arial)" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]  http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36268205:01
Bernardoasac: http://pastebin.ca/728951 - that is my syslog from all the network change tries05:02
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asacBernardo: good then this bug appears to be not soo critical :)05:28
Ubuletteasac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/662/05:31
Ubuletteoh dom is fresher05:32
Ubulettedamn, dom is too strict05:34
asacUbulette: if dom is arch: all ... it should not be that strict05:35
asacwe now have to live with that unless we do another upload05:35
asacas i said ... i think its easier to just use the same bin package names and move it to a different archive05:38
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Bernardoasac: yes, it seems only open networks are broken right now (at least for my ipw3945). I wonder if hidden ssid will work properly?05:52
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asacBernardo: no it doesnt work05:58
asacif your open network is hidden, its broken05:58
asacBernardo: ok can you please try the network-manager from my ppa anyway?05:59
asacjust to see if anything get worse/better05:59
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Bernardook, I need to leave now, I' ll try that as soon as I get back, ok?06:04
asacBernardo: ok06:04
Ubuletteasac, ff3 still in the queue after 2 days :( why ?06:37
gnomefreakUbulette: freeze06:48
Ubulettethen why xul1.9 passed ?06:48
gnomefreakmaybe the archive admins pushed that faster? not sure06:50
gnomefreakthey have a weird sense of what is more important than others "mozilla code" is not top of the list at all06:50
bluekujaheya asac07:02
bluekujaasac: I went home from hospital yesterday07:04
asacbluekuja: ?07:37
asacwhat happened?07:37
bluekujaasac: crash with motorbike07:37
asacUbulette: maybe an archive admin saw the bug :)07:37
Ubulettewhich bug ?07:37
bluekujaasac: http://andreaveri.blogspot.com/07:37
bluekujaasac: check the photos07:38
asacUbulette: firefox-3.007:38
bluekujaasac: is italian so you cant understand, but you can check photos ;)07:38
asacUbulette: i currently don't have web because i test something proxy related :)07:38
Ubulettebluekuja, are you injured ?07:40
asacUbulette: well, he was in hospital07:41
asacbluekuja: hope everything will be fine ;)07:41
bluekujaUbulette: I'm ok, I didnt broke up anything07:41
Ubulettebluekuja, I see you're a motu-torrent. I maintain deluge-torrent on my side (daily builds). is that something that your team is interested in ?07:41
bluekuja*brake07:42
bluekujaUbulette: I'm quite fine, but I cant move my leg very well07:42
bluekuja^^07:42
bluekujaUbulette: yeah, it would be nice to have your help too07:42
Ubulettebluekuja, good for you. seems your bike was somewhat less lucky07:42
bluekujaUbulette: yeah, It's unusable07:43
bluekujaI gonna buy a new one anyway07:43
Ubulettemy latest deluge-torrent is 0.5.5.95+svn20071006r192307:43
bluekujaUbulette: deluge-torrent uses rasterbar?07:44
asacdeluge torrent is the torrent that uses rasterbar?07:44
asachehe07:44
bluekujayup07:44
bluekujalol07:44
asacyeah07:44
bluekujaasac: that's it^^07:44
asacnow bluekuja can decide what todo ;)07:44
bluekujayeah07:44
bluekujaUbulette: deluge ships a lib on the upstream source07:45
bluekujacalled rasterbar07:45
bluekujaI'm sure you know everything about it07:45
Ubuletterasterbar? well, it contains the lib07:45
bluekujalibtorrent-rasterbar07:45
bluekujaUbulette: anyway having it inside in that way is bad07:45
bluekujawe cannot provide security fixes07:45
bluekujaet all07:45
bluekujawe had some discussion on #ubuntu-motu-torrent07:46
bluekujaabout it07:46
bluekujae.g to package it and pushing into the archive07:46
bluekujaasac: I gonna move to agg now07:46
asacsure07:46
bluekujaasac: when everything is ready, I give you links07:46
asacbluekuja: any complains about the diff-ext upload so far?07:47
bluekujaasac: everything seems to be ok, bug is no more there07:47
bluekujapackage works07:47
bluekujaand users are happy atm07:47
asacok07:47
Ubuletteso far, I've built deluge on top of the existing packaging, fixing things when needed.07:47
bluekujaasac: I hope you can process agg as soon as you can, I'm too damn excited for the NM07:47
bluekujaasac: god saved me and said "hey, you have to start the NM, dont get injuried"07:48
bluekuja:P07:48
Ubulettesame for miro, which uses torrent too07:48
bluekujagoing to eat for a while07:48
asacbluekuja: right ;)07:48
bluekujabrb07:48
bluekujaso we can talk up about deluge07:48
asacUbulette: right ... in general we don't want to duplicate libs07:48
bluekujabrb07:49
asacUbulette: because of security issues ... so option would be to package torrent-rasterbar, but then upstream for that committed to not track abi07:49
Ubuletteasac, I know :)07:49
asacwhich led the current HOLD in working on the package07:49
asacand its dependencies07:49
asacactually promoting packages that use rasterbar to ubuntu isn't good.07:49
asacit might not be fair for them, but otherwise more people will use it et al07:50
Ubulettewhy isn't it good ?07:51
asaceither you duplicate sources or you ship an unstable lib07:52
Ubuletteso there's no solution, ie we should do it to avoid duplicates but we should not because it's not fair/stable07:55
asacfor universe it might be too strict, but more or less yes.07:56
bluekujaback08:05
bluekujaUbulette: are you interested in helping the team out?08:07
Ubulettesure08:07
Ubulettebut I'm mostly interested by new stuff, like here.08:08
bluekujaUbulette: cool, I've seen you're really active08:09
bluekujaso feel free to ask for membershio08:10
bluekuja*membership08:10
bluekujagonna accept you as soon as I get the mail08:10
Ubulettedone08:11
Ubulettei've pushed a clean nss in the ppa as it was still the old nss-trunk08:48
Ubuletteof course, I've cleaned it 1st08:48
UbuletteI'd like to move miro away from firefox-dev now08:49
Ubulettenot sure if it's ready for xul1.9 though08:49
Ubulettepushing a new xul too (now that a8 is in gutsy)08:55
bluekujaasac: wooohoo08:59
bluekujaasac: agg builds twice in a row09:00
bluekujaasac: I worked with a guy for a patch(which is on debian BTS now)09:01
bluekujahe pushed it some time ago09:01
bluekujaI checked it and added a fix for another bug09:01
bluekujaI left agg before going to vacations09:03
bluekujathat's why I forgot that patch :/09:04
Ubuletteasac, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56981509:11
asacUbulette: what is his problem?10:33
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bluekujaasac: I hope you can process libagg as soon as you can10:43
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bluekujaasac: let me know when back10:54
bluekujaasac: I gonna move to package new gnome-bt release11:07
bluekujawith two bug fixes11:07
bluekujaon it11:07
bluekujabut first wanna see agg inside11:07
bluekuja;)11:07
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Ubuletteasac, http://mxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/source/gfx/thebes/src/gfxPangoFonts.cpp#64411:57
Ubulettethis is ugly11:57
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searaymanUbulette: hey i was told to talk to u about webrunner01:15
Ubulettehi01:15
searaymani am tryign to get it to work on ubuntu01:15
searaymanUbulette: so far i downloaded this: http://ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam/ubuntu/pool/main/w/webrunner/webrunner_0.7+svn20070925r7025-0ubuntu1~mt2_all.deb01:15
searaymanand this: http://ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam/ubuntu/pool/main/w/webrunner/webrunner-google-docs_0.7+svn20070925r7025-0ubuntu1~mt2_all.deb01:16
Ubuletteand ?01:16
searaymanafter succfully installing both i tried to run the google docs but it didnt really work01:16

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