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asac | Bernardo: ping :) ... pleae test the ubuntu16~ppa1 from my ppa: http://ppa.launchpad.net/asac/ubuntu/pool/main/n/network-manager/ | 12:32 |
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asac | Bernardo: you are the one and only who can reproduce those crashes without waiting a day. so please give me feedback ;) | 12:32 |
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asac | Ubulette: currently testing webrunner ... they appear to have issues like: | 01:35 |
asac | http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/Screenshot-WebRunner.png | 01:36 |
asac | any idea? i have xulrunner dom-inspector installed now, but that doesn't make a differene | 01:36 |
asac | i now linked the extensions folder to the xulrunner one ... still same result | 01:47 |
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Bernardo | I can no longer reproduce those crashes... :( (or is it :) ?) | 02:34 |
Bernardo | With the latest updates (this morning), wifi is working again | 02:34 |
Bernardo | the only problem I have now is that it connects by default to any open network in the neighbourhood | 02:35 |
Bernardo | and the media centre pc that I removed networkmanager so that it would set up my wifi from /etc/network/interfaces, as it is a mouse/keyboard less box. | 02:35 |
Bernardo | but if you want me to test that version, it's ok, I'll download it now and test it here on the laptop | 02:36 |
Ubulette | hi | 02:50 |
Ubulette | asac, one webapp in particular or all of them ? | 02:50 |
asac | all | 02:51 |
asac | Bernardo: which versio ndo you have installed? | 02:51 |
asac | Ubulette: i wanted to write a launchpad webapp :) | 02:52 |
asac | (in my spare time) | 02:52 |
asac | Bernardo: maybe you already had my ppa in your sources.list, so it was fixed by that package? | 02:54 |
asac | (there wasn't really a network-manager update in the last few days) | 02:54 |
Ubulette | asac, seems your xul is borked | 02:55 |
asac | how? | 02:55 |
asac | Ubulette: oh wait | 02:56 |
asac | Ubulette: ok it broke because it was happy with xulrunner 1.8 | 02:58 |
asac | ... can we please disallow everything below 1.9? | 02:58 |
asac | (i had xulrunner from gutsy installed as well) | 02:58 |
asac | removing xulrunner helped | 02:58 |
Ubulette | webrunner is supposed to run under 1.8 or 1.9 yet I've only tested /w 1.9 | 02:59 |
asac | Ubulette: ok application.ini fixing helps | 03:01 |
asac | just use 1.9a8 as minVersion there | 03:01 |
asac | hmm | 03:01 |
asac | Ubulette: debian xulrunner doesn't provide inspector extension | 03:02 |
asac | so lets just raise minVersion to 1.9a | 03:04 |
Ubulette | hmm. it is not mandatory | 03:04 |
Ubulette | is it ? | 03:04 |
asac | what is mandatory? | 03:06 |
asac | minVersion? | 03:06 |
asac | Ubulette: have you ever seen this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/653/ | 03:07 |
asac | what does only absoluete run-path mean? | 03:07 |
asac | ok i see th e problem | 03:19 |
Ubulette | asac, problem is that I start webrunner with /usr/bin/xulrunner so if you prefered 1.8, you're doomed | 03:27 |
asac | Ubulette: so it was the alternative? not the gre.d entry? | 03:32 |
asac | Ubulette: ok i think we want a link /usr/bin/xulrunner-1.9 then | 03:36 |
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asac | Ubulette: did you recover from the xul branch diverging you had yesterady? | 03:37 |
Ubulette | yes | 03:37 |
asac | ok thanks. | 03:37 |
Ubulette | asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/656/ | 03:45 |
Ubulette | is it enough or do I need Replaces or something ? | 03:45 |
asac | what is your goal? | 03:46 |
Ubulette | having a xul+video that I can just substitute to the real one without having to add it everywhere | 03:48 |
asac | i think you need replaces. but if possible allow to return to xulrunne-1.9 by just install xulrunner-1.9 | 03:49 |
asac | as well | 03:49 |
Ubulette | that's the plan | 03:49 |
Ubulette | so i need provides+conflicts+replaces right ? | 03:51 |
asac | thats need to upgrade to it ... no idea if can go back then though :) | 03:51 |
asac | what is upstream state on this? | 03:52 |
Ubulette | moz ? | 03:52 |
asac | yes, state on the video bug | 03:52 |
Ubulette | mozilla bug 382267 | 03:53 |
ubotu | Mozilla bug 382267 in DOM: HTML "Implement WHATWG Video spec" [Enhancement,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=382267 | 03:53 |
Ubulette | the author said on his blog that it may not be ready for ff3 | 03:54 |
asac | Ubulette: isn't the 3rd party lib dependent part isolated in a component? | 04:00 |
Ubulette | i think those 3rd party are built as .a and bundled within libuxl | 04:01 |
asac | yes unfortunately this is the case | 04:02 |
asac | Ubulette: why don't yuo just provide a separate archive for _experimental_ feature? | 04:03 |
asac | and name the package the same ... but just with a greater upstream version? | 04:03 |
asac | like 1.9a8+video | 04:03 |
asac | ? | 04:03 |
Ubulette | no, otherwise I'll just had to add those patches in my bot. | 04:15 |
Bernardo | hi asac | 04:18 |
Bernardo | sorry, I had to leave | 04:19 |
Bernardo | I have version 0.6.5-0ubuntu15 | 04:19 |
asac | Bernardo: ok .. you sure you cannot reproduce the crashes? | 04:21 |
asac | it usually happens if you roam :) | 04:21 |
asac | Bernardo: i just wonder because you already had ubuntu15 before, right? | 04:23 |
Ubulette | damn, my xul segfault with webrunner now | 04:30 |
Ubulette | asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/660/ | 04:38 |
Bernardo | yes, I had ubuntu15 | 04:42 |
Bernardo | but the dbus and kernel and restricted modules updates fixed something | 04:43 |
Bernardo | I can try switching back and forth between the 2 WPA and the open network I have here, if you want | 04:43 |
asac | Bernardo: please | 04:44 |
asac | Bernardo: please try it a few times .) | 04:44 |
Bernardo | ok, let me launch kvirc on another machine and check | 04:45 |
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jbs | preparing to enter as Bernardo... :) | 04:46 |
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Bernardo | ok, now time to check if I can crash ubuntu15 on the laptop | 04:47 |
asac | Bernardo: thanks | 04:47 |
Bernardo | first switch to anothe wpa network (fonera) no problems | 04:48 |
Bernardo | trying the open network now | 04:48 |
Bernardo | stalls after stage 2, with "eth1: link timed out." | 04:49 |
Bernardo | I've chosen the open network again, and it stalls again | 04:50 |
Bernardo | trying a different open network (vodafone) | 04:51 |
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jbs_ | ok, it seems now only wpa works | 04:56 |
Bernardo | couldn't connect to any open network | 04:57 |
Bernardo | but no crashes | 04:57 |
Ubulette | hmm, my crash comes for mozilla bug 362682 | 05:01 |
ubotu | Mozilla bug 362682 in GFX: Thebes "Some Unicode characters are no longer displayed with certain fonts (e.g. Arial)" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=362682 | 05:01 |
Bernardo | asac: http://pastebin.ca/728951 - that is my syslog from all the network change tries | 05:02 |
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asac | Bernardo: good then this bug appears to be not soo critical :) | 05:28 |
Ubulette | asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/662/ | 05:31 |
Ubulette | oh dom is fresher | 05:32 |
Ubulette | damn, dom is too strict | 05:34 |
asac | Ubulette: if dom is arch: all ... it should not be that strict | 05:35 |
asac | we now have to live with that unless we do another upload | 05:35 |
asac | as i said ... i think its easier to just use the same bin package names and move it to a different archive | 05:38 |
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Bernardo | asac: yes, it seems only open networks are broken right now (at least for my ipw3945). I wonder if hidden ssid will work properly? | 05:52 |
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asac | Bernardo: no it doesnt work | 05:58 |
asac | if your open network is hidden, its broken | 05:58 |
asac | Bernardo: ok can you please try the network-manager from my ppa anyway? | 05:59 |
asac | just to see if anything get worse/better | 05:59 |
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Bernardo | ok, I need to leave now, I' ll try that as soon as I get back, ok? | 06:04 |
asac | Bernardo: ok | 06:04 |
Ubulette | asac, ff3 still in the queue after 2 days :( why ? | 06:37 |
gnomefreak | Ubulette: freeze | 06:48 |
Ubulette | then why xul1.9 passed ? | 06:48 |
gnomefreak | maybe the archive admins pushed that faster? not sure | 06:50 |
gnomefreak | they have a weird sense of what is more important than others "mozilla code" is not top of the list at all | 06:50 |
bluekuja | heya asac | 07:02 |
bluekuja | asac: I went home from hospital yesterday | 07:04 |
asac | bluekuja: ? | 07:37 |
asac | what happened? | 07:37 |
bluekuja | asac: crash with motorbike | 07:37 |
asac | Ubulette: maybe an archive admin saw the bug :) | 07:37 |
Ubulette | which bug ? | 07:37 |
bluekuja | asac: http://andreaveri.blogspot.com/ | 07:37 |
bluekuja | asac: check the photos | 07:38 |
asac | Ubulette: firefox-3.0 | 07:38 |
bluekuja | asac: is italian so you cant understand, but you can check photos ;) | 07:38 |
asac | Ubulette: i currently don't have web because i test something proxy related :) | 07:38 |
Ubulette | bluekuja, are you injured ? | 07:40 |
asac | Ubulette: well, he was in hospital | 07:41 |
asac | bluekuja: hope everything will be fine ;) | 07:41 |
bluekuja | Ubulette: I'm ok, I didnt broke up anything | 07:41 |
Ubulette | bluekuja, I see you're a motu-torrent. I maintain deluge-torrent on my side (daily builds). is that something that your team is interested in ? | 07:41 |
bluekuja | *brake | 07:42 |
bluekuja | Ubulette: I'm quite fine, but I cant move my leg very well | 07:42 |
bluekuja | ^^ | 07:42 |
bluekuja | Ubulette: yeah, it would be nice to have your help too | 07:42 |
Ubulette | bluekuja, good for you. seems your bike was somewhat less lucky | 07:42 |
bluekuja | Ubulette: yeah, It's unusable | 07:43 |
bluekuja | I gonna buy a new one anyway | 07:43 |
Ubulette | my latest deluge-torrent is 0.5.5.95+svn20071006r1923 | 07:43 |
bluekuja | Ubulette: deluge-torrent uses rasterbar? | 07:44 |
asac | deluge torrent is the torrent that uses rasterbar? | 07:44 |
asac | hehe | 07:44 |
bluekuja | yup | 07:44 |
bluekuja | lol | 07:44 |
asac | yeah | 07:44 |
bluekuja | asac: that's it^^ | 07:44 |
asac | now bluekuja can decide what todo ;) | 07:44 |
bluekuja | yeah | 07:44 |
bluekuja | Ubulette: deluge ships a lib on the upstream source | 07:45 |
bluekuja | called rasterbar | 07:45 |
bluekuja | I'm sure you know everything about it | 07:45 |
Ubulette | rasterbar? well, it contains the lib | 07:45 |
bluekuja | libtorrent-rasterbar | 07:45 |
bluekuja | Ubulette: anyway having it inside in that way is bad | 07:45 |
bluekuja | we cannot provide security fixes | 07:45 |
bluekuja | et all | 07:45 |
bluekuja | we had some discussion on #ubuntu-motu-torrent | 07:46 |
bluekuja | about it | 07:46 |
bluekuja | e.g to package it and pushing into the archive | 07:46 |
bluekuja | asac: I gonna move to agg now | 07:46 |
asac | sure | 07:46 |
bluekuja | asac: when everything is ready, I give you links | 07:46 |
asac | bluekuja: any complains about the diff-ext upload so far? | 07:47 |
bluekuja | asac: everything seems to be ok, bug is no more there | 07:47 |
bluekuja | package works | 07:47 |
bluekuja | and users are happy atm | 07:47 |
asac | ok | 07:47 |
Ubulette | so far, I've built deluge on top of the existing packaging, fixing things when needed. | 07:47 |
bluekuja | asac: I hope you can process agg as soon as you can, I'm too damn excited for the NM | 07:47 |
bluekuja | asac: god saved me and said "hey, you have to start the NM, dont get injuried" | 07:48 |
bluekuja | :P | 07:48 |
Ubulette | same for miro, which uses torrent too | 07:48 |
bluekuja | going to eat for a while | 07:48 |
asac | bluekuja: right ;) | 07:48 |
bluekuja | brb | 07:48 |
bluekuja | so we can talk up about deluge | 07:48 |
asac | Ubulette: right ... in general we don't want to duplicate libs | 07:48 |
bluekuja | brb | 07:49 |
asac | Ubulette: because of security issues ... so option would be to package torrent-rasterbar, but then upstream for that committed to not track abi | 07:49 |
Ubulette | asac, I know :) | 07:49 |
asac | which led the current HOLD in working on the package | 07:49 |
asac | and its dependencies | 07:49 |
asac | actually promoting packages that use rasterbar to ubuntu isn't good. | 07:49 |
asac | it might not be fair for them, but otherwise more people will use it et al | 07:50 |
Ubulette | why isn't it good ? | 07:51 |
asac | either you duplicate sources or you ship an unstable lib | 07:52 |
Ubulette | so there's no solution, ie we should do it to avoid duplicates but we should not because it's not fair/stable | 07:55 |
asac | for universe it might be too strict, but more or less yes. | 07:56 |
bluekuja | back | 08:05 |
bluekuja | Ubulette: are you interested in helping the team out? | 08:07 |
Ubulette | sure | 08:07 |
Ubulette | but I'm mostly interested by new stuff, like here. | 08:08 |
bluekuja | Ubulette: cool, I've seen you're really active | 08:09 |
bluekuja | so feel free to ask for membershio | 08:10 |
bluekuja | *membership | 08:10 |
bluekuja | gonna accept you as soon as I get the mail | 08:10 |
Ubulette | done | 08:11 |
Ubulette | i've pushed a clean nss in the ppa as it was still the old nss-trunk | 08:48 |
Ubulette | of course, I've cleaned it 1st | 08:48 |
Ubulette | I'd like to move miro away from firefox-dev now | 08:49 |
Ubulette | not sure if it's ready for xul1.9 though | 08:49 |
Ubulette | pushing a new xul too (now that a8 is in gutsy) | 08:55 |
bluekuja | asac: wooohoo | 08:59 |
bluekuja | asac: agg builds twice in a row | 09:00 |
bluekuja | asac: I worked with a guy for a patch(which is on debian BTS now) | 09:01 |
bluekuja | he pushed it some time ago | 09:01 |
bluekuja | I checked it and added a fix for another bug | 09:01 |
bluekuja | I left agg before going to vacations | 09:03 |
bluekuja | that's why I forgot that patch :/ | 09:04 |
Ubulette | asac, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=569815 | 09:11 |
asac | Ubulette: what is his problem? | 10:33 |
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bluekuja | asac: I hope you can process libagg as soon as you can | 10:43 |
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bluekuja | asac: let me know when back | 10:54 |
bluekuja | asac: I gonna move to package new gnome-bt release | 11:07 |
bluekuja | with two bug fixes | 11:07 |
bluekuja | on it | 11:07 |
bluekuja | but first wanna see agg inside | 11:07 |
bluekuja | ;) | 11:07 |
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Ubulette | asac, http://mxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/source/gfx/thebes/src/gfxPangoFonts.cpp#644 | 11:57 |
Ubulette | this is ugly | 11:57 |
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searayman | Ubulette: hey i was told to talk to u about webrunner | 01:15 |
Ubulette | hi | 01:15 |
searayman | i am tryign to get it to work on ubuntu | 01:15 |
searayman | Ubulette: so far i downloaded this: http://ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam/ubuntu/pool/main/w/webrunner/webrunner_0.7+svn20070925r7025-0ubuntu1~mt2_all.deb | 01:15 |
searayman | and this: http://ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam/ubuntu/pool/main/w/webrunner/webrunner-google-docs_0.7+svn20070925r7025-0ubuntu1~mt2_all.deb | 01:16 |
Ubulette | and ? | 01:16 |
searayman | after succfully installing both i tried to run the google docs but it didnt really work | 01:16 |
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