[01:19] i switched out the return statements for prints [01:19] and they worked as expected [01:20] Well, now it just crashes, so its a problem eariler on [01:20] i got it from here [01:20] probably import os or import string? [01:21] no those are both imported [01:21] hm [01:21] Nope... something so bad, I don't dare say and shame myself [01:21] well probably good you didn't push then :) [01:21] Oh wow, I did it, and its root [01:21] :P [01:23] foxbuntu, the way you did it, you broke the existing vbox behavior [01:23] arg [01:23] which of those buttons got highlighted was controlled by what was installed [01:23] why? [01:23] so for example the old box called synaptic_vbox [01:24] can't just be deleted [01:24] unless you modify the code [01:24] which it probably can be taken out of the code now anyway : software-properties-gtk has it [01:24] and is a dependency of mythbuntu-control-centre [01:25] superm1, ok [01:25] so what do I need to do to fix it? [01:26] find the references to it in core.py [01:26] and clean them up [01:26] you could debug this in the future by running m-c-c like this 'sudo /usr/share/mythbuntu-control-centre/bin/mythbuntu-control-centre' [01:27] ok [01:28] i did a cut and paste though [01:28] you didn't cut the vbox it was in [01:28] 'synaptic_vbox' [01:28] is what it was in [01:28] oh [01:28] update manager and terminal probably had similar ones [01:28] ok [01:29] so I gotta find those in core right? [01:31] that is where it crashes correct? [01:33] Oh [01:33] I have an idea [01:34] uh oh. are you doing that thinking thing again [01:34] Yes [01:34] today is about coding. not thinking silly. [01:34] Give me asprin, I have headache [01:34] Rather than launch a terminal and change the user [01:34] I'll launch the terminal as the user [01:35] su USER -c COMMAND === Tari [n=Tari@mke-66-97-119-162.milwpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [01:37] ha. [01:37] does that work? [01:38] er... no [01:38] to solve your current problem [01:38] what is the current problem then? [01:38] have you tried to add print statements? [01:38] Well, the problem is launching it [01:38] Yep [01:38] to make sure that its properly passing data [01:38] and is it? [01:38] Yep [01:38] Yep [01:38] so what's the problem then :) [01:38] launching the terminal as user X [01:40] found it [01:40] spaces [01:40] oh those things are pretty annoying [01:44] Iknow,Idon'tthinkweshouldactuallyusethem [01:44] diespaces!! === OpenMediaSupport [n=steve@60-234-129-166.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [01:45] laga: You around? [01:45] laga: ping [01:46] WHOO [01:46] it worked :D [01:47] And pushed [01:47] well, pushing [01:49] woah OpenMediaSupport is alive :) [01:50] Sorry.. Been a bit distracted of late. [01:50] superm1: Your beta rocks by the way. [01:50] thanks :) [01:50] you like Xfce? [01:50] Do you know what laga was after? Was is the mysql optimisations? [01:50] yeah mysql stuff [01:50] he wanted to know what sort of things you guys were up to [01:51] so he could implement them into m-c-c [01:51] I've alwasy liked xfce. I like how you've used it. [01:51] Is there a ticket I can add some notes into on launchpad? [01:51] i dont think so [01:51] Most of our settings are the same as vanilla knoppmyth. [01:52] i see [01:57] anything else [01:57] nevermind [01:57] I don't have any mythbuntu instances booted. Do you set any values in my.cnf at present? [01:57] OpenMediaSupport, well beyond defaults no, but laga has some new stuff in m-c-c [01:58] if you look at the m-c-c branch [01:58] OK. [01:59] so just curious, is there a way to get web movies playing in mythbrowser? like videos from stage6.com and youtube? [02:00] superm1: Details at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39811/ [02:01] OpenMediaSupport, okay cool. laga will be greatful :) [02:01] I tried foxbuntu's settings but I couldn't see any major performance differences, but my test rig doesn't have a huge database. [02:02] OpenMediaSupport, if your DB is stock (not much in it) you wont see much of a difference it only makes a difference as the DB grows [02:02] therethinker2, okay one thing [02:02] it spawns the terminal but doesn't hide m-c-c [02:02] is that how you wanted it to work? [02:03] because the old way was pretty much spawning , hiding m-c-c, and then after the terminal quit, m-c-c came back [02:07] Hmmm [02:07] I didn't like when it was hidden [02:07] but I guess I can see why people might want it to hide [02:16] well either hide that or don't hide the other launchables [02:16] your call :) [02:18] therethinker, otherwise good job :) [02:19] therethinker, one last thing i had in store for m-c-c if you want it. i expect this one to be "fun" though === bliffle [n=john@64-142-27-84.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:33] sure, what is it>? [02:34] although I think you've said that everything is fun [02:34] haha [02:34] and isn't it? [02:34] well there is a last tab [02:34] ...damn you [02:34] that is deactivated [02:34] Whoo tabbage [02:34] Network Shares [02:34] this one has a lot less code to match it yet [02:34] Yes [02:35] and will require some python-samba action [02:35] I haven't seen anything on it [02:35] Although... some samba [02:35] and if it exists (python-nfs) [02:35] :P [02:35] so this one, if you don't get figured out, no biggie, i was planning to defer until hardy because it looked like trouble [02:35] Yeah [02:38] was this always there? [02:38] what do you mean? [02:38] the tab? [02:38] Shows how observent I was :p [02:38] I never saw it [02:38] or the glade file [02:38] well its not marked visible [02:38] the glade file has always been tehre [02:38] but the tab was off because it wasn't sorted out yet [02:38] Yeah, so I am blind [02:39] hmm.. cool [02:40] i have a PVR-350 that came with a remote, its the grey remote with the 4 color buttons accross the bottom, which remote should i choose during setup for that remote? [02:40] re [02:41] G'night laga [02:41] hey laga [02:41] OpenMediaSupport, showed up [02:41] Who are they exactly [02:41] i pm'ed you what was said [02:41] that's so... amazing? [02:42] OpenMediaSupport: thanks! [02:42] superm1: yeah, saw it. === therethinker2 feels so... ignorant [02:42] therethinker, i thought of something. [02:42] during that apt get update [02:42] Yep [02:42] i'm gonna see if that progress can be shown in the terminal window [02:42] i'll experiment [02:42] Yeah [02:43] I think its xterm [--some-modifier] apt-get update [02:43] xterm is the small black one [02:43] well i mean in the m-c-c window [02:43] there is a way to do it [02:43] Oh [02:44] i'll take care of it [02:44] don't worry [02:44] DaveMorris: oh, nothing. just clueless people testing bleeding-edge software, but i'll stop before someone fuels my misanthropy again by accusing me of talking shit :) [02:46] foxbuntu's suggestion looks similar to the one posted on the mailing list [02:47] coincidence? [02:47] i think not. [02:47] :P [02:48] That was worthy of CAPS [02:48] haha your right it was [02:48] well it would have been if he was here [02:48] wonder if he got scared of the little python [02:48] :P === therethinker2 always wears gloves while programming pythons [02:48] THICK gloves [02:49] IRC needs italics :P [02:49] /test/ === superm1 should be working on school stuff, but python is more enjoyable to toy with [02:49] hum, not working [02:49] \test\ [02:49] superm1: your school stuff must be horrible [02:49] _test_ [02:49] :P [02:49] I do that too [02:49] <3 polemic [02:50] How to I view bugs for MCC [02:50] I've seen it before [02:50] but I can never remmber how to get ot it... [02:51] Yeah, so I fixed 2 bugs [02:51] http://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythbuntu-control-centre/ [02:51] or so [02:51] -> bugs [02:51] well two reported bugs [02:51] therethinker2: cool [02:51] Yeah [02:51] you've handled a lot more today [02:51] lots of stuff that's been on the todo === therethinker2 is proud [02:52] come to think of it, i fixed a bug, too. one which i reported myself, but hey. ;) [02:52] Yeah, "Err... this isn't working" [02:52] i fixed one that i found without needing to report [02:52] *10 minutes later* [02:52] I fixed it! I'm a genius! [02:52] I think I did that on IRC quite a few times... quite too often [02:53] superm1: i always hope someone else takes care of it, but that doesn#t happen a lot :) [02:54] When do the Archives close? [02:55] yesterday or so. [02:55] That's nice [02:55] i was gonna suggest to make a -fixes branch for mcc where we merge translations. but since the archives are already closed.. [02:55] that sucks... [02:56] When do they "open" again :P [02:56] well this is goign to be pushed [02:56] but i need to poke [02:56] on monday to convince them that it doesnt break [02:56] or tomorrow [02:56] or whenever i find an archive admin [02:56] This is universe, or multiverse? [02:56] universe [02:57] Hmm, [02:57] it should be in multiverse unless i misunderstood something [02:57] Yeah [02:57] (i do know it's in universe, but it depends on mythtv-common) [02:57] Yeah [02:57] superm1: it fixes some known bugs as well and it#s maintained by ubuntu people so it shouldn't be a problem [02:57] well it itself is okay to be in universe though [02:58] it doesnt link with any wacky stuff [02:58] laga, well that's my argument for monday [02:58] heh, finally got my entire myth system working, thanks for all the hard work guys :) [02:58] but as i learned with the SRU, this is a pia when we're in freeze mode [02:58] superm1: heh [02:58] Whoo 12 days 'till gutsy :D [02:59] we were a bit late with mcc, right [02:59] let's do better in 6 months :) [03:00] Yes [03:00] I think MCC will be done in 2 :P [03:00] I don't think we can do much more to it... [03:00] are you kidding? [03:00] code rework [03:01] it needs it sooo bad. [03:01] especially if mythpython is going to be used [03:01] this needs to be less tied to gtk [03:01] if mythpython ever gets anywhere [03:01] Oh yeah... === therethinker gets out of fantasy world [03:02] and we really needs a libmythbuntu [03:02] there is sooo much code duplications [03:02] everywhere [03:02] in python? [03:02] yes [03:02] Yes [03:02] superm1: sorry that i couldn't convert the lirc stuff to debconf :/ === laga waves goodbye to morphinex [03:03] Do you want me to do like libmcc? :P [03:03] oh i forgot about that [03:03] crap. [03:03] therethinker2, its not just in m-c-c [03:03] there are multiple other python apps [03:03] that we use [03:03] Yeah, I know [03:03] that do very similar calls [03:03] all over [03:03] the board [03:03] Hmm [03:03] Is there ANY hope in getting a libmyth? [03:03] there is a libmyth [03:03] like, is there a blueprint [03:04] Oh, there is [03:04] it's just c++ ;) [03:04] ohhh [03:04] the nice thing about doing this whole thing in python was that could easily rely on ubuntu's existing python infrastructure [03:04] for stuff like apt [03:04] there's mythpython, the mythtv perl bindings and some even more limited python bindings [03:04] Exactly [03:04] whereas you go to C, and it turns not so pretty === Tari_ [n=Tari@mke-66-97-119-162.milwpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [03:04] yeah [03:05] python + glade seems like the right job for this task, IMHO. just need to make it structured. [03:05] Yeah [03:06] i need to upload the feisty packages, darn [03:06] Should I build MCC for fiesty? [03:06] Is it possible? :P [03:06] no [03:06] figured [03:06] :) [03:06] we depend on some gutsy stuff [03:06] Of course. === therethinker2 really hates the VM [03:07] there is so much stuff in gutsy that would not backport [03:07] even if we tried [03:07] :) [03:07] i think i need to delete my ~/.kde dir. there's too much weird stuff going on. === therethinker2 laughs at joke he doesn't get [03:08] hat was not a joke. that's a real problem ;) [03:08] I know, but if I understood, I'd say "heh" [03:08] i tend to get crash reports on login from program i was not running. which feels like windows ME to me [03:08] AHH === therethinker2 runs in a corner... laga said the M word [03:09] therethinker2, your gonna like the change i am about to commit === therethinker runs to the other corner [03:09] windows me. spreading fear among geeks since .. well, whenever [03:10] I've used Win. ME for 2 years... uughh [03:11] therethinker, even better, it happened in revno 100 [03:11] At least they had sys. restore... [03:11] Whoo@ [03:11] We should throw a party [03:11] update and turn on and off your medibuntu [03:11] and checkout what happens [03:11] NOOOOO [03:11] you'll be in awe and/or amazement [03:11] *looks at diff* === therethinker2 waits for 100 to show up... [03:12] Ahh! BLING [03:13] ohy. the i386 PPA must hae a long queue by now. [03:13] mythtv-additional-themes was queued 13 hours ago and it's still not built [03:13] yikes [03:13] Eugh [03:14] don't like it therethinker2 ? [03:14] not sure [03:14] its building [03:14] is there a quicker way? [03:14] Eugh was @ laga [03:15] other than debuild [03:15] no [03:15] k [03:15] Nice === MitoTranin [n=mito@24-177-155-206.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [03:16] We need to add the medibuntu keys [03:16] therethinker2, oh that's right [03:16] How can we make sure we do that only ONCE [03:17] query the key ring? [03:17] apt-key list | grep blah [03:17] laga: Whats in the additional themes, or is still just a placeholder? [03:17] Good'un [03:18] OpenMediaSupport: juski's themes in trunk [03:18] laga: Nice.. [03:18] Since 0.20.2 these larger themes have become usable.. [03:19] yes, the memory usage improvements are nie. [03:19] laga, can you push those to the normal mythbuntu ppa too? [03:20] Ah, figured out how to do it [03:20] even though they can't get into the archive, we can still build our disks with them i guess. [03:20] I'll get on it [03:20] laga, how big is the resultant binary? [03:21] Do you know where the documentation is for apt python? [03:21] superm1: no, i can't. they pull from svn and it's only applicable to trunk. if you want me to package some themes for fixes, i can do that but it's not that easy [03:21] eh, I've poked around and found some stuff [03:21] I'll ask if I still cant' find what I need [03:23] and yeah, everythings blank [03:23] therethinker2, everything's blank? [03:23] laga, they're only applicable for trunk? [03:23] Well, all the sites, IE sourceforge, didn't have any doucmentation on it [03:23] i thought that the same binary worked on both/ [03:24] and the doc folder just had some irrelivant examples [03:24] yikes. i'll have to push the feisty trunk builds tomorrow. the svn revision will differ but oh well. [03:24] therethinker2, the best place to look for apt keyring stuff in python [03:24] superm1: i'm not sure about that. i doubt it for now :) [03:24] ... is... [03:24] is software-sources-gtk [03:24] superm1: there are theme changes between trunk and fixes [03:24] look at its source [03:24] yay, thanks [03:24] they use apt in there [03:24] Oh, yeah, I remember poking in there [03:24] that is how i got the synaptic bling [03:24] through them [03:25] Yay stealing! [03:25] they're credited [03:25] yay, software communism! [03:25] Yeah, I was joking [03:25] :P [03:25] Yay open source! [03:25] laga, really? [03:25] i didn't consider that [03:25] superm1: wrt communism or themes? [03:25] haha [03:25] Hmm [03:25] themes [03:25] i thought that stuff like blootube you could get there [03:25] and go with ti [03:25] It is kinda communism... [03:26] superm1: yes, there are differences. some themes wont work anymore because of that, eg purpegalaxy [03:26] superm1: there are versions for -fixes, of course. [03:26] oh purplegalaxy never worked anyway [03:26] superm1: i think it did when i started a few years ago [03:27] superm1: this is a secondary backend and mysql-server is installed. however, in the system services tab, "mysql service" or whatever the english string is is set to "deactivated" [03:28] but without looking at the code, i'm afraid that it's a translation problem. [03:28] laga, yeah that is only valid on master backend [03:28] mythtv-backend-master? [03:28] i thought [03:28] ah, ok [03:29] still, i can toggle it and stuff gets installed [03:29] odd. [03:30] now it's greyed out [03:30] i give up and chalk it off as "works as intended" O_O [03:30] so is something borke or no? [03:31] :P [03:31] Again, that's the bugfixer's mantra [03:31] no. [03:31] superm1: sorry for the confusion [03:31] i got confused by my translation. [03:32] i'm still confused. but okay [03:32] i basically translated activated as "to activate" [03:33] what else is needed for final? unionfs? [03:34] Anyone got some specs on the smallest possible mythbuntu frontend install? [03:34] oh, superm1: what was that about mythbuntu-default-settings? i was supposed to merge ubuntu-mythtv-frontend in there, but you said something about trouble [03:34] well i think this is good as long as nothing else breaks (m-c-c) [03:34] laga, yeah that's right [03:34] so [03:34] Whoo [03:34] andding keys is easy :P [03:35] the new way that xfce and stuff works [03:35] awesome [03:35] the frontend is started by symlinking /usr/share/applications/mythtv.desktop to ~/.config/autostart/mythtv.desktop [03:35] so the only way to really implement the logging support would be directly within the 'mythtv' package in it's .desktop file [03:35] or by changing the behavior that m-c-c does [03:36] OpenMediaSupport, smallest frontend only? [03:36] Yeah.. Basically a lite install for flash based frontends [03:36] At the moment Its about 1.3G which is high [03:36] well i imaging ~800 [03:36]