[12:04] <newnickname1234> where?
[12:04] <Dr_willis> where? where what?  if its geting mounted from the fstab.. then remove the fstab entry?
[12:04] <Dr_willis> !mount
[12:04] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[12:04] <yngone> if u wanna ssh to another shell
[12:05] <yngone> u just apt-get ssh
[12:05] <yngone> ?
[12:05] <player> stefg: no I hit 1 instead of L
[12:05] <newnickname1234> I am assuming that from the grub loader, I can go into command line and edit the fstab file
[12:05] <Dr_willis> !ssh
[12:05] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[12:05] <lee_> Follow the on screen instructions
[12:06] <Dreamev> exit
[12:06] <Mr-Snick> one again ...I installed Beryl, but when i run it, my screen goes white. how do i stop this?
[12:06] <Dreamev> hups
[12:06] <player> stefg: Do you want the devide with the asterix?
[12:06] <newnickname1234> I can do that?
[12:06] <player> device
[12:06] <zoranoth> newnick: grep -v vfat /etc/fstab > /tmp/foo; sudo mv /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.old; sudo mv /tmp/foo /etc/fstab
[12:06] <player> stefg: It starts at 23971
[12:07] <peter_> I cannot get bluetooth to work on ubuntu
[12:07] <stefg> player: so i can't guide you, because i can't see anything. Afaics, your problem is that the disk is too big for the bios , so you can try if you can get a newer bios, or repartition the disk with a separate /boot partition at the start.
[12:07] <yngone> how do u delcaire the port u wanna join in xchat
[12:07] <player> stefg: Fair enough, can you guide me to removing the particion so I can boot windows again?
[12:07] <yngone> ./server blah.blah.com :6667?
[12:08] <newnickname1234> I can't get to shell (and am not familiar with grub command line)...
[12:08] <neh> I just installed the gutsy beta (64-bit server) on a new machine, and the network hardware isn't working at all. The hardware is the nforce 570, it's detected and forcedeth gets loaded, but it doesn't create a device entry. Any ideas?
[12:08] <lid> anyone knows how to suspend my laptop at a given time?
[12:08] <newnickname1234> Other than using a live cd...
[12:08] <erUSUL> !gutsy | neh
[12:08] <ubotu> neh: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[12:08] <neh> erUSUL: ah, thanks
[12:09] <zoranoth> newnick: you' can't get it to boot? - is it trying to use the wrong root partition?
[12:09] <newnickname1234> It just goes on printing out a lot of garbage on boot time
[12:09] <stefg> player: removing the partition won't help. you need to restore the windows bootloader to the mbr of the hd. that involves booting a win-CD to rescue console and run 'fixmbr' from the win command prompt
[12:09] <Centaur5> I just finished my squid server but it doesn't block sites until I run my firewall after squid starts. How can I make that automatic on startup?
[12:10] <player> stefg: I have no boot cd :(
[12:10] <flacom> hey... what is the package of xv ?
[12:10] <zoranoth> garbage? or bootmessages? like the same kindof stuff you see with dmesg or from /var/log/{syslog|messages}
[12:11] <stefg> player: a freedos CD will do, too. there run fdisk /mbr
[12:11] <mphill> Can someone please help me figure out my my video looks like this ->> http://www.mphill.org/~mphill/video_issue.png  I have all gstreamer components installed, its not a proprietary format.
[12:11] <digbert> anyway, anyone know how to fix the out of range error i asked about a little while ago?
[12:11] <newnickname1234> It mounts the file system, get startup scripts running and at some point after that (maybe right before doing a file check) it starts printing out garbage (invalid characters on the screen) until I kill the computer
[12:11] <newnickname1234> NO
[12:11] <zoranoth> ahh - so - real garbage :)
[12:11] <player> stefg: Let me look around to see if I have one
[12:11] <newnickname1234> that would have been little easier, it goes to fast and all I can see is, "weird" characters
[12:12] <newnickname1234> usually non printable...
[12:12] <yngone> i actually really like ubuntu
[12:12] <yngone> :)
[12:12] <yngone> im new to nix
[12:12] <newnickname1234> I "think" it might be similar to doing a cat on a binary file
[12:12] <stefg> player: or try the super grub disk. it possibly manages to boot your win, so can run a fixmbr from the installed system
[12:12] <newnickname1234> I tried the recovery console, and it does the same thing
[12:13] <Ashfire908> newnickname1234, check your logs?
[12:13] <zoranoth> I'd try a live-cd... then fsck your filesystems to see if they're still alive (sounds like something's corrupt there) ... then you can mount and edit whatever you need
[12:13] <newnickname1234> That's what I am going to do, I tried chkdsk on windows on the FAT partition and chkdsk goes on allocating memory on memory on memory...
[12:14] <lid> is there a suspend command equal to shutdown 2:30 ??
[12:14] <yngone> if you wanna dns somthing in nix
[12:14] <yngone> do you just host than server?
[12:14] <newnickname1234> I should be good if I use the fiesty cd...
[12:15] <player> stefg: I don't think Ione part of the live cd? have any windows cd, the the grub
[12:15] <player> erm
[12:15] <zoranoth> newnick: the few times I've gotten raw garbage like that that wasn't a lilo/grub problem... I had to start digging out backup tapes :(
[12:16] <newnickname1234> I am hoping the fsck from the live cd don't go into infinite loop either!
[12:16] <player> stefg: I don't think I have the windows cd, can i use the live one for the GRUB?
[12:16] <aleka> I have run out of space on my / partition and now can not login with gdm because there no space available ... what files can I delete? How can I delete apt cache files?
[12:16] <newnickname1234> That is sweet (being sarcastic ;))
[12:16] <lid> go to the strg+alt+F1
[12:16] <newnickname1234> Thanks for your suggestions... All
[12:17] <stefg> player:  rathe get http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/
[12:17] <zoranoth> hrm - haven't used the ubuntu CD's for anything but install.... always used knoppix out of force of habit....
[12:17] <player> stefg: hmm I wonder if theres a download for windows?
[12:17] <zoranoth> are you running vfat or NTFS on that partition?
[12:17] <defendguin> i used gparted to remove a partition from my disk and now fscheck is going crazy because the drive doesn't exist it puts me into an emergency shell each time i boot up
[12:18] <gorii> I"m trying to install 7.10 beta, but I"m having trouble with the partitioner, it keeps freezing at 53%
[12:18] <stefg> player: it's an iso image. so you just dl it, burn the image and hope that it's smart enough to let you boot a OS off your hd
[12:18] <gorii> has anyone heard of this issue before?
[12:19] <aleka> Please help in creating enough space on my / to be able to login graphically and free up more space..
[12:19] <player> stefg: will try it out
[12:19] <lid> aleka: login on console
[12:19] <Flannel> aleka: 'sudo apt-get clean' will clean your package cache
[12:19] <lid> and delete the crap u dont need anymore
[12:19] <aleka> lid: I am on console
[12:19] <aleka> Flannel: thanks... would that give me enough space to be able to log in
[12:19] <aleka> ?
[12:20] <Flannel> aleka: Yeah
[12:20] <peter_> can anyone guide me as to how to set up bluetooth on ubuntu .....one that actually works :)
[12:20] <lid> how can i suspend the computer at a given time??
[12:21] <yngone> if you wanna dns somthing in nix
[12:21] <yngone> do you just host than server?
[12:21] <Shelldrak> hello world
[12:21] <Mr_WAMU> Hello Shelldrak
[12:22] <aleka> Flannel:  thanks again :))  Is there any way to list what files are taking up what space? AFIK I don't  have any music/media files on my /
[12:22] <lid> peter_: check this out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[12:22] <player> stefg: Should I just stick the cd in and let it boot?
[12:22] <stefg> player: yup
[12:22] <Shelldrak> I juste join the community today
[12:23] <Flannel> aleka: There's a GUI disk space analyzer, yeah.  Believe its already installed
[12:24] <Mr_WAMU> Can anybody tell me how to open my iptabes in gedit?
[12:25] <DM|> how do i reset my irc freenode nickserv password
[12:25] <aleka> Flannel: Thanks again
[12:25] <quack> the disk space analyzer is nice
[12:26] <DM|> quack baobab?
[12:26] <quack> lol
[12:26] <Flannel> DM|: yeah
[12:26] <quack> still running gutsy beta
[12:26] <quack> lots of nightmares
[12:27] <quack> lol
[12:27] <Mr_WAMU> Can anyone tell me where iptables are located?
[12:27] <DM|> quack tis expected, anything i can possibly help with?
[12:27] <Mr_WAMU> !iptables
[12:27] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[12:27] <quack> naw,i'll survive,been through this before
[12:27] <eugman> I want to backup my photos folder periodically to a external harddrive. What's the most effecient way about this? Rsync?
[12:28] <jrdaigle1000> okay, I'm back and I still need boot floppies :(
[12:28] <yngone> how do u find out ur distro
[12:28] <stefg> !sbackup | eugman
[12:28] <ubotu> eugman: sbackup is a tool to create complete and/or incremental backups (which can be scheduled to be automatic, and can be done over a network). It is available in !Universe
[12:28] <yngone> i think i have ubuntu 6.10
[12:28] <luis> hello people
[12:28] <eugman> stefg, actually i'm alreay using that for full backups can it handle two configs?
[12:28] <quack> hi luis
[12:29] <yngone> how do u find out ur distro
[12:29] <yngone> i think i have ubuntu 6.10
[12:29] <luis> can anyone tell me what command I have to type into the terminal window to install google earth in ubuntu, it's on my desktop
[12:29] <SpiffyBalak> does anyone here know a lot about VirtualBox?
[12:29] <pbx> yngone: uname -a
[12:29] <stdin> !version | yngone
[12:29] <ubotu> yngone: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[12:29] <pbx> Yeah, that :)
[12:30] <lid> luis: ./[install.bin] 
[12:30] <stefg> eugman: not sure. but photos are compressed already (so rsync has no benefits) , so a simle cronjob would do, too
[12:30] <quack> or just click sys monitor
[12:30] <yngone> 6.10 edgy
[12:30] <yngone> is that updated?
[12:30] <luis> just that?
[12:30] <jrib> !googleearth > luis (read the private message from ubotu)
[12:30] <luis> lid
[12:30] <kav2k> Having a problem to get my network up: after setting "static" entry in /etc/network/interfaces I get "SIOCADDRT: Network Unreachable".
[12:30] <jrdaigle1000> anyone? I want to install Ubuntu on my computer, where can I get boot floppies?
[12:30] <jrdaigle1000> please?
[12:30] <Flannel> jrdaigle1000: Grab the alternate CD, it can make boot floppies
[12:31] <pbx> stefg: rsync isn't just about file compression, it's also about only sending what has changed
[12:31] <quack> not sure
[12:31] <quack> do you have a cd drive?
[12:31] <stdin> !install > jrdaigle1000 | see the link from ubotu
[12:31] <eugman> stefg, well basically I don't know how to intelligentally copy files such that only new files are copied
[12:31] <pbx> eugman: You use rsync.
[12:31] <jrdaigle1000> I'm downloading the alternate CD. How do I use it to make the floppies?
[12:31] <player> stefg: Thanks so much for your time.
[12:31] <player> stefg: I think I may have fixed it
[12:32] <Flannel> jrdaigle1000: During the install, theres an entry to create boot floppies.  If you're looking to just make boot floppies, do the advanced, and skip everything else.
[12:32] <Flannel> jrdaigle1000: Its a big menu that you go through in order (or you can skip stuff), at the end theres a boot floppy creation thing
[12:32] <stefg> eugman: whatever floats your boat. linux is about choice, so you can as well use rsync
[12:32] <luis> lid, this:  ./[install.bin] , didn't work :(
[12:33] <jrdaigle1000> But I can't run the install. I can't boot from a CD.
[12:33] <Icekuma> Hi everyone! :)
[12:33] <stdin> jrdaigle1000: see the link from ubotu
[12:33] <Flannel> jrdaigle1000: Ah, you haven't installed yet?
[12:33] <yngone> 6.10 edgy
[12:33] <yngone> is that updated?
[12:33] <jrdaigle1000> no, i haven't installed yet, but I want to
[12:33] <Flannel> yngone: Yes.  It's supported for 18 months
[12:33] <eugman> stefg, well is there anything else good for copying smartly?
[12:33] <Flannel> jrdaigle1000: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation  has a few installation-from-floppy guides
[12:33] <stefg> !backup
[12:33] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[12:33] <stdin> !install | jrdaigle1000, instructions here
[12:33] <ubotu> jrdaigle1000, instructions here: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[12:33] <Cryoniq> jrdaigle1000: Have you made sure the settings in bios are set to boot from CD?
[12:33] <mzuverink> About to install gusty, but need to know what people are doing about medibuntu and other stuff, or does gusty come with all the goodies for mp3s and stuff?
[12:33] <yngone> Flannel; i want ot install truecrypt and on there site there is nothing for that version of ubuntu
[12:34] <Icekuma> Anyone familiar with Ubuntu 7.04 64 AMD version?
[12:34] <jrib> mzuverink: gutsy help in #ubuntu+1
[12:34] <Flannel> mzuverink: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy support, thanks
[12:34] <yngone> Flannel; does truecrypt work on 6.10?
[12:34] <Inox> How can i customize visual effects with ubuntu 7.10???
[12:34] <player> stefg: hmm, It show the XP loading screen then the pc reboots itself.
[12:34] <stefg> eugma: or read about cp -u
[12:34] <jrib> Inox: gutsy help in #ubuntu+1
[12:34] <stdin> Inox: #ubuntu+1
[12:34] <Icekuma> trying to get MSN to work on UBUNTU here so I can do audio and teh like
[12:34] <eugman> ok
[12:34] <Inox> Ok
[12:34] <stefg> player: you might as well have a hardware problem....
[12:35] <player> I doubt that
[12:35] <yngone> Flannel; i want ot install truecrypt and on there site there is nothing for that version of ubuntu
[12:35] <yngone> Flannel; does truecrypt work on 6.10?
[12:35] <trimmer> Has anybody successfully configured rubyonrails with the mongrel web proxy in UBUNTU?
[12:36] <trogdor> anyone know what command is to start bittornado?
[12:36] <zoranoth> yngone: down load the source from TC website - you'll need to compile a kernel module
[12:36] <_Andrew> Icekuma, Have you got msn working with audio?
[12:36] <Warsocket> could someone help me compiling my own kernel, it just gives error messages while compiling after make menuconfig
[12:36] <jrdaigle1000> My BIOS has a setting to boot from a CD, but according to someone I've talked to, it can only do so in "emulation mode," so I've never managed to boot from a CD.
[12:37] <Ashfire908> how do i list the users on the system?
[12:37] <Icekuma> Nope I don't have aMSN working with AUDIO at all
[12:37] <Flannel> yngone: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TruecryptHiddenVolume might help
[12:37] <Icekuma> That's the problem.
[12:37] <Ashfire908> sorry, how do i list the user accounts
[12:37] <Icekuma> So is there a way to get audio on it at all?
[12:37] <stdin> Ashfire908: they are listed in /etc/passwd
[12:37] <jrdaigle1000> And SmartBootManager doesn't work either. I can boot into it from a floppy, but it doesn't list my CD drive.
[12:37] <_Andrew> Icekuma, Is it possible for you to use something like skype? Skype works quite well.
[12:37] <Icekuma> I can use Skype sure
[12:37] <Icekuma> but
[12:38] <Icekuma> the web video doesn't work in skype anymore
[12:38] <trimmer> Before anyone asks, I am in #rubyonrails, #apache and there is no support channel for mongrel
[12:38] <Icekuma> So either I can fixt that or the other
[12:38] <Warsocket> i get this error ehile compiling the kernel
[12:38] <Warsocket> make[1] : *** No rule to make target `init/main.o', needed by `init/built-in.o'.  Stop.
[12:38] <Icekuma> I guess it's because of Feisty?
  what does that mean and which version shouldi download?
[12:39] <heartsblood> if I wanted to replace the bars at the top and bottom of a gdm enviroment with something else what should I look into to do that
[12:39] <player> stefg: 'ntldr' is missing?
[12:39] <Icekuma> So if that doesn't work, how do I get Skype VIDEO to work in 7.04?
[12:39] <Rizzla> Has anyone had luck migrating their thunderbird profile from XP to ubuntu?
[12:39] <Rizzla> would someone have a couple mins to help me figure it out?
[12:39] <_Andrew> Icekuma, I've had a look around at voip and video. You can use ekiga which comes with Ubuntu which has voice and video (works on windows too), there is yahoo video with a program call gyachi and amsn video works for me. I am using a combination of Gyachi (yahoo) web cam with skype
[12:40] <Flannel> Rizzla: I believe TB has an export/import thing, where you can export your profile and then import it in linux
[12:40] <yngone> Flannel ; sudo apt-get install truecrypt    ; E: Couldn't find package truecrypt
[12:40] <Icekuma> Emmm Ekiga? But taht means I have to force others to get Ekiga.
[12:40] <heartsblood> Icekuma: Video isn't supported by skype in linux yet
[12:40] <Icekuma> Well
[12:41] <heartsblood> Icekuma: there is a beta version floating around but I'm not sure where to pick it up
[12:41] <Rizzla> let me look into it
[12:41] <Icekuma> it was possible back in an earlier version of linux Skype.
[12:41] <zoranoth> \msg yngone http://www.truecrypt.org/downloads.php - choose "Other (Source code)"
[12:41] <Rizzla> last I checked i couldnt get it to work
[12:41] <Icekuma> I mean earlier version of Ubuntu
[12:41] <Cryoniq> 0o Was that for real? 0o I was watching a avi file in vlc. I accidently moved the file from its location to a external NAS drive. Then remembered I had it playing and was thinking.. this will freeze when I hit play.. but it didn't. It played it all. Is it so nifty setup that the system "feel" the move and updated the source to the new allocation? 0o
[12:41] <Icekuma> So mmm
[12:41] <_Andrew> Icekuma, I don't like Ekiga much myself. Thats why I use a combination of yahoo web cam with skype
[12:41] <Kopfgeldjaeger> n8
[12:41] <zoranoth> s/\\/\//g :D
[12:41] <stefg> player: there seems some real problem between bios and harddisk. check your bios settings maybe you have to change to lba-mode (or away from it). this no linux problem, but a general problem ot the bios addressing the harddisk
[12:41] <Icekuma> _Andrew
[12:41] <Icekuma> those solutions all mean I have to force others to download yahoo
[12:41] <heartsblood> Icekuma: are you sure about that?  they JUST released the new 1.4 so maybe try a different version
[12:42] <Icekuma> You mean try an earlier Skype?
[12:42] <Rizzla> i just tried running thunderbird and got the following error: Mozilla thunderbird is already running, but is not responding.  To open a new window, you must first close the existing moziall thunderbird process or restart your system
[12:42] <heartsblood> yes
[12:42] <Wood1> What is the imporvement in Pidgin Instant Messenger?
[12:42] <_Andrew> IceKuma, does aMSN web cam not work for you>?
[12:42] <Rizzla> I dont see an open thunderbird righ tnow
[12:42] <bobgill> how do I restart the font DB?
  mind if pm?
[12:42] <Icekuma> The web cam in aMSN works
[12:42] <Icekuma> but audio does not work
[12:42] <Flannel> yngone: Hmm.  You're right.  You'll have to download/install it manually.  Their site doesn't seem to have a 6.10version (you knew that), but does have a 7.04, you could upgrade, or just compile manually (use checkinstall)
[12:42] <Icekuma> that was the issue
[12:43] <Icekuma> it's just annoying to use two progs you know.
[12:43] <Rizzla> Flannel, were you talking to me?
[12:43] <Icekuma> so thought somebody would know a way to make it work.
[12:43] <Rizzla> oh, sorry, you were talking to yngone
[12:43] <_Andrew> Icekuma, can you not use Skype for audio and aMSN for webcam?
[12:43] <zoranoth> yngone: yeah - flannels' right - http://www.truecrypt.org/downloads.php - choose "Other (Source code)"
[12:43] <jamison_> anyone here that could help me with a python question
[12:43] <pbx> sure
[12:43] <Icekuma> _andrew I can
[12:43] <pbx> but #python is a better place
[12:43] <Icekuma> but that wasn't the solution I wanted
[12:44] <jamison_> wont let me join python, says i need t me registered
[12:44] <Cryoniq> Does MSN stuff and webcam work at all under Ubuntu with the available clients around?
[12:44] <Icekuma> Well
[12:44] <Rizzla> how do i kill thunderbird process that the error said is open?  WHen I checked my system monitor I dont see it running
[12:44] <Icekuma> Depends
[12:44] <Icekuma> what version Ubuntu you have
[12:44] <_Andrew> Cryoniq, There is a program called aMSN that gives you voice and web cam support
[12:44] <Icekuma> if you have the one I have
[12:44] <Icekuma> then there are issues
[12:44] <kav2k> I'm trying to migrate my network settings from Windows but can't get them to work: after setting up "static" entry in interfaces I get "SIOCADDRT: Network Unreachable". Anyone having any ideas what might be wrong?
[12:45] <Icekuma> but if you use Edgy Ubuntu and earlier
[12:45] <Icekuma> then should have less issues
[12:45] <player> stefg: I have access mode and can change it to large or none
[12:45] <Cryoniq> _Andrew: aaah. Nice.. I didn't know webcam support was around yet.. nice!
[12:45] <player> stefg: is that it?
[12:45] <luis> anyone, how to install google earth please?
[12:45] <luis> lol
[12:45] <stefg> player: try large
[12:45] <Flannel> !earth | luis
[12:45] <ubotu> luis: Google Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. To download it see http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html - A package for Ubuntu is available in the !Medibuntu repository
[12:45] <heartsblood> does anybody know of an application that will modify/remove the top and bottom bars in gdm?
[12:46] <luis> what's the medibuntu repository? O_o
[12:46] <jamison_> how do you register a nick on here?
[12:46] <Pici> !nickspam > The-Barkeeper (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[12:46] <underwatercow> Why is it that videos I play in Totem and VLC are too dark?
[12:46] <Flannel> !medibuntu | luis
[12:46] <ubotu> luis: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[12:46] <_Andrew> heartsblood, eh? Can't you just right click and "delete panel" ?
[12:47] <Cryoniq> Only around 11 days untill Gutsy.. I'm detecting an early start of christmas this year :P
[12:47] <heartsblood> _Andrew: not exactly my goal, but I didn't think of that.
[12:47] <pbx> Christmas is already here on my laptop
[12:47] <player> stefg: No when I boot up it just says ntldr is missing, but alreast that means its attempting to start windows
[12:47] <player> now*
[12:47] <Cryoniq> pbx: naah.. You got a Beta X-mas :)
[12:47] <heartsblood> _Andrew: if you remove the bars, is there a way to get them back?
[12:48] <pbx> Cryoniq: with 100MB of downloaded updates per day, it seems
[12:48] <_Andrew> heartsblood, No idea
[12:48] <lordhelmet> hey all...running gutsy kubuntu with gdd instead of kdm. standby works but when i come out of standby, it restarts gdm and i have to log in again, losing anything i had open. this happened before i upgraded to gutsy too (yes i know gutsty is still beta)
[12:48] <Cryoniq> pbx: Yeah I know :P
[12:48] <Cryoniq> pbx: Isn't it sweet? :P
[12:48] <Rizzla> Anyone migrated their thunderbird profile from XP to Feisty?
[12:48] <heartsblood> _Andrew: well 1 way to find out :)
[12:49] <Pici> lordhelmet: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions please.
[12:49] <Rizzla> i'm having some trouble and could use a hand if someone's done it before
[12:50] <bluebanana> Hi, I've plugged in my USB Logitech webcam to my computer. what do i do next to use it or to see if it works.
[12:50] <bluebanana> ?
[12:50] <Cryoniq> Rizzla: I have. She was blond, blue eyes and a real good lover... hmm that wasn't what you meant.. *cough* *blush* Anyway, state the nature of your emergency :)
[12:50] <lordhelmet> Pici: it happened on feisty too so i was asking here anyway
[12:50] <Rizzla> i downloaded thunderbird via synaptic
[12:51] <Rizzla> and i tried launching it but am getting an error
[12:51] <_Andrew> bluebanana, There is a program called Camorama install that and load it up
[12:51] <Rizzla> Error: Mozilla thunderbird is already running, but is not responding.  To open a new window, you must first close the existing moziall thunderbird process or restart your system
[12:51] <Cryoniq> Rizzla: ah right. It told you already had a running process?
[12:51] <unagi> did u restart Rizzla
[12:52] <Cryoniq> Rizzla: right. You might have a process hanging around. You might need to kill it. Or restart the system will help also.
[12:52] <unagi> odd that, that is exactly what the error stated lol
[12:52] <Rizzla> no i havent restarted
[12:52] <bluebanana> _Andrew, should i check first to see if computer detects a USB webcam plugged in?
[12:52] <Rizzla> how do i kill the process
[12:52] <Ashfire908> how do i delete a group?
[12:52] <Rizzla> i'd rather try that first because i've got some stuff running that I dont want to restart
[12:52] <unagi> sudo gnome-system-monitor
[12:52] <bluebanana> can one use a webcam as a sort of digital-camera?
[12:52] <unagi> or sudo killall process
[12:53] <Sarah> is there a channel for the new beta ubuntu
[12:53] <bluebanana> _Andrew, oh, lsusb shows that it detects the webcam
[12:53] <_MrPink_> Rizzla: There is a terminal command for it, but I would recommend the program "htop" it is like a terminal version of the taskmanager... you can easily kill processes via keyboard
[12:53] <TuneTracker> I am trying to find a busy, active IRC channel for OpenOffice.  Can someone suggest one?
[12:54] <Rizzla> i've got the sysmon open, but I dont see any mozilla thunderbird processes running
[12:54] <Ashfire908> how do i delete a user group?
[12:54] <Sarah> because i cant use my internet on ubuntu 7.10 beta
[12:54] <felipe_> hello, someone can help me with Beryl installation to an Ubuntu 7.04
[12:54] <_MrPink_> and it shows you all the processes and information about them when you start htop
[12:54] <_Andrew> bluebanana, You mean take pictures with your webcam plugged in? Camorama lets you do that
[12:54] <clos> hey guys, i'm running utorrent under wine, but my torrents won't download?
[12:54] <Sarah> i can ping google but not go there
[12:54] <Sarah> i cant log on with pigwigen
[12:54] <bluebanana> _Andrew, thanks!!! you're the best
[12:54] <Sarah> or anythin
[12:54] <Sarah> just ping
[12:54] <unagi> it wont say specifically mozilla thunderbird
[12:54] <_MrPink_> clos why not try a native linux torrent application ?
[12:54] <Wood1> does anyone here has an HP Pavilion laptop?
[12:54] <clos> deluge won't install mrpink
[12:54] <unagi> i do Wood1
[12:54] <unagi> dv6000t
[12:55] <Wood1> unagi: and you have ubuntu installed on it?
[12:55] <_MrPink_> Rizzla the Problem is you need to find out its process ID... as I said htop makes the whole issue a lot easier ;)
[12:55] <unagi> ......yes
[12:55] <_Andrew> clos, Did you check that you're not behind a NAT or being firewalled?
[12:55] <CaptainMorgan> anyone ever have trouble with MySql Admin and Browser remotely? every time I try to login it hangs... but if I use phpmyadmin it works... the former just has better interface
[12:55] <Wood1> unagi: what about the webcam, does it work?
[12:55] <bluebanana> _Andrew, how'd you hear about camorama? Is that the best/most popular on ubuntu?
[12:55] <Rizzla> MrPink, should I use synaptic to get htop?
[12:55] <felipe_> hello, someone can help me with Beryl installation to an Ubuntu 7.04
[12:55] <ganon> You know a good guide for Ubuntu?
[12:55] <clos> andrew this is on a dedicated server, on its own port, thats not behind a NAT
[12:55] <_Andrew> bluebanana, ubuntuforums.org
[12:55] <unagi> it does.....with tweaking and raindancing.........but it doesnt work well
[12:55] <Sarah> anyone?
[12:56] <_MrPink_> Rizzla I think: apt-get install htop  works as well... but you should be able to find it via synaptic
[12:56] <_Andrew> bluebanana, There are other programs it's just the most popular to test that your web cam actually works
[12:56] <Rizzla> got it
[12:56] <Rizzla> lemme start it up
[12:56] <Wood1> unagi: what about the remote controller?
[12:56] <Sarah> ???
[12:56] <_MrPink_> Rizzla looks kind of weird at first ;)
[12:56] <felipe_> hello, someone can help me with Beryl installation to an Ubuntu 7.04?
[12:56] <unagi> remote works......but tv tuner doesnt
[12:56] <gokhan_> i am going to install easycam2 but it also is going to install gcc 3.1 but i already have gcc 4.1 so might it make any problem if i install them?
[12:56] <Sarah> felipe
[12:56] <luis> anyone have google earth on their linux machine?
[12:57] <_MrPink_> Rizzla just press F3 to search and type thunderbird   and then enter and then you can kill with F9  (as shown at the bottom)
[12:57] <luis> I was able to install it, but it acts super weird
[12:57] <Rizzla> MrPink, it failed, couldnt run for some reason
[12:57] <luis> like the screen flickers and stuff
[12:57] <Wood1> unagi: ok
[12:57] <Sarah> goto the ubuntu forums, there is one line that u type in terminal and it downloads and installs it for u
[12:57] <bluebanana> if i'm not using a USB gadget, should i unplug it from my comp in order to free up my computer's "brain"?
[12:57] <_MrPink_> Rizzla: when you type "htop"   in the terminal it gives you an error ?
[12:57] <peter_> can anyone help me with bluetooth on ubuntu
[12:57] <Sarah> like sudo apt-get install beryl emrald themes and all this stuff
[12:57] <unagi> yea its why i still keep vista around wood1
[12:57] <Rizzla> "could not launch menu item"  Faild to execute child process "-x" (no such file or directory) "
[12:57] <jp> how can I enable wireless card using the command line ?
[12:57] <unagi> ubuntu doesnt do everything =/
[12:57] <_Andrew> Sarah, Did you install something like moblock that blocks aload of ip's connecting to your computer?
[12:57] <Cryoniq> Rizzla: when I kill a process I open up a terminal window. Do sudo ps -A (sometimes sudo ps -A |grep <what im looking for>. Then taking the process ID at same line of what found and do: kill <process ID number>
[12:58] <Sarah> im not sure
[12:58] <Wood1> bluebanana: lol, no it doesn't affect it's "brain" :P
[12:58] <Rizzla> ah, forget it, i had to do it from the terminal
[12:58] <ganon> felipe: are you from spain?
[12:58] <Sarah> i just installed 7.10 now and noticed
[12:58] <Sarah> its a fresh install, no mods
[12:58] <Wood1> Sarah: did you like it?
[12:58] <_Andrew> felipe_, applications -> add/remove programs -> search: beryl
[12:58] <felipe_> Sarah, you mean apt? i've done that but it dont start
[12:58] <_MrPink_> Rizzla: hehe ok.. yeah terminal is fine... for me its just too many steps thats why I like htop
[12:58] <bluebanana> Wood1, i mean, would the computer run faster/better if i unplug un-used USB gadgets?
[12:59] <Wood1> bluebanana: nope
[12:59] <jp> how can I enable wireless card using the command line ?
[12:59] <_MrPink_> Rizzla I am just a lazy soab :-P
[12:59] <TuneTracker> I am trying to find a busy, active IRC channel for OpenOffice.  Can someone suggest one?
[12:59] <Cryoniq> Rizzla: but htop does the work as well and more simple if not want to mess in term :)
[12:59] <Ashfire908> um, just curious, where are the passwords stored? in the kernel?
[12:59] <Rizzla> I did F and searched for thunderbird, but it doesnt look like it showed anything
[12:59] <Sarah> my internet is connecting through ethernet and worked fine on 7.04
[12:59] <unagi> jp what do you mean enable the wireless card
[12:59] <luis> anyone have google earth on their linux machine? I was able to install it, but it acts super weird, the screen flickers and stuff
[12:59] <Wood1> bluebanana: it might be faster on startup yes, but during runtime it doesn't affect
[12:59] <unagi> luis sounds like drivers to me
[12:59] <jp> yes
[12:59] <bluebanana> i have a logitech quickcam messenger. In camorama, i'm not seeing much color. do i have a black and white webcam? http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-961237-0403-QuickCam-Messenger-WebCam/dp/B00006OLCT
[12:59] <luis> so, what do I do? me not know :(
[12:59] <luis> lol
[12:59] <unagi> anyone here have an nvidia card that theyre running the 100.19 drivers?
[12:59] <_MrPink_> Rizzla: You mean in htop =
[12:59] <clos> whenever i try to install any torrent app it returns this
[01:00] <clos> http://pastebin.com/m1f450ae3
[01:00] <ganon> somebody know any guide for Ubuntu ?
[01:00] <unagi>  bluebanana ubuntu has problems with alot of webcams and color
[01:00] <Rizzla> Yea, i searched in htop via F3 and typed thunderbird but nothing seemed to show up
[01:00] <unagi> yea ganon.......irc #ubuntu
[01:00] <unagi> welcome!
[01:00] <Rizzla> i just see all my other processes
[01:00] <jrdaigle1000> anyone here have an idea on how slow Feisty will run on a 133MHz processor and 144 MB RAM?
[01:00] <_MrPink_> it only marks it with a green bar
[01:00] <Cryoniq> Rizzla: try search for mozilla
[01:00] <bluebanana> is there a way to use my webcam as a "security camera", one that is motion activated, so that when I'm gone, I can have a video/snapshot copy of what's going on in the webcam's view?
[01:00] <_MrPink_> try "thund" and then Enter and then F9
[01:00] <bluebanana> unagi, I see.
[01:00] <Sarah> what could be blocking my internet connection
[01:00] <_Andrew> bluebanana, can you do lsusb and tell me the web cams code. You're having problems?
[01:00] <k3nz0o> Wow , My Webcam work on IRC
[01:00] <fyrestrtr> bluebanana: depends if the camera supports motion detection.
[01:00] <unagi> as far as motion activated you would have to  have a sensor for that
[01:01] <ganon> unagi: jajajaja, Thanks, but I'm thinking in any write for read, not for ask
[01:01] <clos> anyone?
[01:01] <clos> http://pastebin.com/m1f450ae3
[01:01] <bluebanana> _Andrew, Bus 001 Device 005: ID 046d:08f0 Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Messenger
[01:01] <unagi> ok let me try and help ganon whats your question
[01:01] <Rizzla> F it, i'll just restart real quick.  Ctrl+alt+backspace is all i need to do to kill all my processes and relogin right?
[01:01] <unagi> or whats the problem u seek an answer for
[01:01] <unagi> no rizzla
[01:01] <unagi> that just restarts x
[01:01] <unagi> restart the pc
[01:01] <Sarah> helloooo???
[01:01] <Rizzla> thats just to restart x right/
[01:01] <Rizzla> ?
[01:01] <bluebanana> fyrestrtr, how do i know if my webcam supports motion detection? And if my webcam doesn't support motion-detection, can't Ubuntu be smart enough to make it motion-detactable? (I hope so)
[01:01] <Cryoniq> Rizzla: if you do that you will restart X only but remain in session as user
[01:01] <_MrPink_> yes it only restarts X not the apps
[01:02] <Rizzla> hmm, so just log out?
[01:02] <gokhan_> i am going to install easycam2 but it also is going to install gcc 3.1 but i already have gcc 4.1 so might it make any problem if i install them?
[01:02] <_MrPink_> restart
[01:02] <unagi> no....restart
[01:02] <_Andrew> bluebanana, can you describe your problem. Black & white? or it doesn't work at all?
[01:02] <edg1> hello all
[01:02] <jp> I would like to download some programs from the internet, but my Ubuntu does not seem to recognize my wireless card. I do not have gui.
[01:02] <unagi> lol
[01:02] <Sarah> sum1??? a lil bit of help please?
[01:02] <edg1> anyone know how to change refresh rate?
[01:02] <fyrestrtr> bluebanana: ubuntu cannot create a hardware sensor in your camera; your camera must already have the sensor + circuitry inside it.
[01:02] <swarm> what is the process using screen to share a terminal?
[01:02] <Wood1> guys, do you think that a Windows user can fully migrate to Linux/Ubuntu? or should use Ubuntu for some software and Windows for other software, since not all Windows software work on Ubuntu.. please make me understand how can you work on Ubuntu and most of the software that is out work only for Windows. Thanks a lot
[01:02] <Rizzla> ug.. restarting takes sooo long.. but i'll do it.  Hopefully you guys will still be here when i get back
[01:02] <Quak3r> bluebanana, are you a banana ?
[01:02] <unagi> sarah wats wrong
[01:02] <_MrPink_> thats why htop is so good... and it should work ;)
[01:02] <_Andrew> !patience Sarah
[01:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about patience sarah - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:02] <fyrestrtr> bluebanana: to find out if your camera does, look up its documentation.
[01:02] <Quak3r> :D just joking :D
[01:02] <Cryoniq> Thinking of it.. I should check out how thunderbird is these days.. been running evolution mainly.. hmm
[01:02] <Rizzla> see ya in a few.  Thanks for your patience
[01:02] <unagi> lol patience
[01:02] <clos> whenever i try to install anything torrent related i get this error http://pastebin.com/m1f450ae3
[01:02] <jrib> gokhan_: no as long as you are using the repos
[01:02] <Cryoniq> Rizzla: np :)
[01:02] <Sarah> my internet doesnt work right on 7.10
[01:02] <_MrPink_> Rizzla see you ;)
[01:03] <acoustyk> is there a gaming specific server?
[01:03] <fyrestrtr> Sarah: use 7.04
[01:03] <Sarah> i can ping google but i cant go there
[01:03] <IndyGunFreak> Sarah: whats your problem?
[01:03] <jrib> !gutsy > Sarah (read the private message from ubotu)
[01:03] <Sarah> i cant
[01:03] <unagi> then downgrade till 7.10 is officially out
[01:03] <acoustyk> channel*
[01:03] <pbx> If the splash page that my machine displays on boot isn't referenced in /boot/grub/menu.lst, where is it?
[01:03] <Sarah> doesnt support my graphics card
[01:03] <bluebanana> Quak3r, no, i'm not a banana, i'm bluebanana ! 8-)
[01:03] <gokhan_> jrib, so it wont cause any problem in my system
[01:03] <ganon> unagi: Thank you for your help, but isn't a concrete question
[01:03] <Sarah> and 7.10 does
[01:03] <fyrestrtr> !bootsplash > pbx
[01:03] <usser> Wood1: keep it dual booted for some time, but sit in ubuntu most of the time soon enough u'll make a complete switch
[01:03] <IndyGunFreak> Sarah: what problem are you having?
[01:03] <_MrPink_> pbx I think it should be in menu.lst ??
[01:03] <unagi> ubuntuforums.org ganon
[01:03] <Sarah> i cant USE internet
[01:03] <Sarah> i can ping google
[01:03] <Sarah> but cant go there
[01:04] <Nicark> hey guys what developing tool you recommend for webpages? =D
[01:04] <bluebanana> _Andrew, problem about color? If so, things in camoram doesn't look it has colors
[01:04] <ganon> oki thanks unagi ;)
[01:04] <jrib> gokhan_: if you are using the repos, there is no problem
[01:04] <Cryoniq> Anyone know if there are any recent updated drivers for ATI 9800 Pro around since ATI/AMD released the specs?
[01:04] <pbx> _MrPink_: the "splash" keyword is there at the end of the boot lines but there is no file reference that i can see.
[01:04] <_MrPink_> Nicark gedit  :-P
[01:04] <fyrestrtr> Nicark: nvu, bluefish, quanta, screem.
[01:04] <usser> Cryoniq: nope
[01:04] <fyrestrtr> !bootsplash
[01:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootsplash - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:04] <Wood1> usser: do you have a list of alternative for software that work on Windows that can work on Ubuntu?
[01:04] <Sarah> im guessing something is blocking me from accessing the net
[01:04] <_Andrew> bluebanana, Did you say you have display problems with your web cam?
[01:04] <Cryoniq> usser: *cry* =/
[01:04] <_MrPink_> pbx are you trying to install a splash theme?
[01:04] <gokhan_> jrib, ok thanks
[01:04] <bluebanana> _Andrew, when I have the color slider in camorama to 0 or to the max, it still looks the same.
[01:04] <usser> Wood1: what do u use in windows
[01:04] <IndyGunFreak> Sarah: try starting firefox in terminal, by typing 'firefox', no qutoes, and see if it kicks back any errors?
[01:04] <jp> how can I see interfaces my computer has?
[01:04] <Nicark> thanks :)
[01:04] <player> stefg: oing into the live CD, it appears the partition with windows has lost its mount point
[01:04] <_Andrew> bluebanana, Oh right..
[01:04] <lcars> hi folks, I have weird problem about a 7.04 installation working fine on all boxes except 4 IBM Netptiva (same hardware), boot goes fine but as soon as I start Gnome everything gets really slow. tried turning off acpi and stuff..no joy. it's weird..seems like a lowe level incompatibility. anyone has a clue or where I might look?
[01:04] <Sarah> ok
[01:05] <player> stefg: any way to fix that?
[01:05] <bluebanana> _Andrew, "display problems"? no... just colors
[01:05] <_Andrew> bluebanana, Its probably a problem with the driver then. Sorry can't help
[01:05] <bluebanana> _Andrew, and I want my logitech quickcam messenger webcam to act as a "security camera' for when I leave my room and am away from my home
[01:05] <VictorE> jp: ifconfig
[01:05] <usser> Wood1: heres a list http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Linux_software_equivalent_to_Windows_software
[01:05] <the_hammer> hey all true or false ubuntu gutsy comes with compiz fusion installed and works after installing ubuntu gutsy?
[01:05] <Sarah> no errors, still doesnt connect..... seeing as i can ping i tried that pigegn messenger thing
[01:05] <Wood1> usser: I rely on Microsoft Office, Maya (3D modelling), Visual Basic...
[01:05] <bluebanana> _Andrew, is there a color driver available from Logitech or from Linux/ubuntu folks?
[01:05] <Sarah> doesnt sign in, so i guess its not firefox
[01:05] <IndyGunFreak> Sarah: were you able to sign on to pidgin?
[01:06] <pbx> _MrPink_: Perhaps; but first I want to kill the one that's there.
[01:06] <IndyGunFreak> hmm
[01:06] <Sarah> ill try a static IP
[01:06] <the_hammer> anyone gonna answer to that?
[01:06] <Wood1> usser: Windows Office for example is 100 times better and more sophisticated than OpenOffice.... do you agree?
[01:06] <IndyGunFreak> Sarah: how are you connected to the internet?
[01:06] <yngone> can i update kernels by software updates
[01:06] <Sarah> cabel
[01:06] <Sarah> cable
[01:06] <michael1> installing second hard drive that has ubuntu install on it already
[01:06] <usser> Wood1: visual basic might be of some problem,maya has linux version
[01:06] <sub[t] rnl> the_hammer: yes it comes with compiz fusion
[01:06] <yngone> from 6.10 to 7.4
[01:06] <_MrPink_> pbx sry am Not sure how to do that... I just added a theme over the standard Ubuntu one
[01:06] <jp> my computer has a wireless card, but I do not know how to active it so that I could go wireless. how do you use iwconfig?
[01:07] <the_hammer> how ya get it to work then
[01:07] <rawler> hey people...
[01:07] <stefg> player: i have no clear image of what might be the problem. i think it's bios/harddisk , ot OS related, but without having proper info i'm just guessing
[01:07] <IndyGunFreak> ok, but i mean, are you through a router, or a USB modem, or ethernet to cable modem, or what?
[01:07] <Flannel> !upgrade | yngone
[01:07] <the_hammer> got no icon no nothing
[01:07] <ubotu> yngone: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:07] <Sarah> nope
[01:07] <_Andrew> bluebanana, Heres something about montion detection for your security web cam.. http://www.lavrsen.dk/twiki/bin/view/Motion/WebHome
[01:07] <Sarah> doesnt connect at all now
[01:07] <the_hammer> all i see is emterald themes installed
[01:07] <rawler> does anyone know anything about broken international keys in Gutsy?
[01:07] <Wood1> usser: thank you for the website
[01:07] <player> stefg: Your guesses are valuable to me as I am out of ideas.
[01:07] <yngone> Flannel some software update thing popped up and i click install packages its like 184 packages including new distro 7.4
[01:07] <yngone> it says
[01:07] <usser> Wood1: well i only use offices for pretty basic stuff so in my opinion they are not all that different
[01:07] <Mykelyk> Hi guy I'm trying to install ubunto 7.04 for the first time. I've got a TTY error, could someone help me?
[01:07] <Flannel> yngone: Right, that'll upgrade your kernel as well
[01:08] <IndyGunFreak> Sarah: system/admin/Network tools
[01:08] <Rizzla> alright, i'm back
[01:08] <Wood1> usser: oh, I am a professional Excel user thats why im saying that
[01:08] <Sarah> ok
[01:08] <rawler> I did a dist-upgrade today, and for one, the nvidia-driver broke (some packages were missing on the mirror), once that was resolved, I'm now having problems with my keyboard..
[01:08] <usser> Wood1: visual basic 6.0 at least runs in linux through emulator
[01:08] <bluebanana> _Andrew, thanks for the "motion" link
[01:08] <Sarah> now what...
[01:08] <Wood1> usser: which emulator can i use?
[01:08] <usser> Wood1: excel with vba?
[01:08] <yngone> Flannel; thanks
[01:08] <IndyGunFreak> Sarah: what do you have there?
[01:08] <Rizzla> crap my window manager didnt start
[01:08] <usser> Wood1: wine
[01:08] <IndyGunFreak> on connections tab?
[01:08] <stefg> player: but it's bedtime in my timezone now, so i'm gong to leave real soon.
[01:08] <player> stefg: The primary partition used to be /media/sda1 for the mount point, but now its black
[01:08] <Rizzla> whats the default gnome window manager?
[01:08] <Sarah> eth0 and loop back device
[01:08] <Wood1> excel in M$ Office
[01:09] <rawler> non-english characters are broken, and not even ctrl+alt+f1 works..
[01:09] <Rizzla> i have emerald
[01:09] <Flannel> Rizzla: metacity
[01:09] <Rizzla> thanks
[01:09] <Rizzla> let me start that
[01:09] <Sarah> eth0 and lo
[01:09] <player> stefg: Okay, any ideas about fixing the mount point though?
[01:09] <IndyGunFreak> Sarah: under connections, what does it say... LIke Wired Connection, Modem Connection, etc?
[01:09] <Rizzla> is it alt+F2 metacity --replace?
[01:09] <Mykelyk> Where can i ask for help?
[01:09] <_MrPink_> someone know a good site that explains the different window managers and how to install them ?
[01:10] <Kazero> So wheres the best place to get help with getting OpenGL to work properly in 7.04?
[01:10] <_MrPink_> Mykelyk right here ;)
[01:10] <CokeNCode> /ctcp VERSION CokeNCode
[01:10] <CokeNCode> oops :$
[01:10] <_Andrew> Mykelyk, here :D
[01:10] <stefg> player: if you have done a resize your partition table might have been corrupted . looks like there is no windows anymore on that disk
[01:10] <Mykelyk> Yes?
[01:10] <Sarah> it says wired connection on roaming mode and modem (im not using modem)
[01:10] <IndyGunFreak> Mykelyk: type "/join #ubuntu" no quotes
[01:10] <_MrPink_> Kazero: maybe : #ubuntu-effects    not sure
[01:10] <IndyGunFreak> Sarah: ok, highlight wired connection, and hit properties
[01:10] <Sarah> k
[01:10] <jp> my computer has a wireless card, but I do not know how to active it so that I could go wireless. how do you use iwconfig?
[01:10] <usser> Wood1: if u so addicted to ms office even 2003 works with wine on linux now
[01:10] <IndyGunFreak> Sarah: is enable roaming mode checked there?
[01:11] <_Andrew> Mykelyk, I don't really understand what the problem your having is. Could you be more descriptive.
[01:11] <Rizzla> hey how to i start metacity?
[01:11] <Sarah> yes
[01:11] <Wood1> usser: what about Office 2007?
[01:11] <Rizzla> or replace emerald, because it just shit the bed on me
[01:11] <IndyGunFreak> Sarah: try unchecking it.
[01:11] <Sarah> k
[01:11] <h1st0> jp: You should be able to just use the network-manager applet by the clock
[01:11] <Rizzla> for the time being, not permanently
[01:11] <usser> Wood1: that bloat is not supported ))
[01:11] <h1st0> !wifi > jp
[01:11] <IndyGunFreak> Sarah: then change configuration, to "Automatic DHCP"
[01:11] <Sarah> ok
[01:11] <Wood1> usser: bloat? lol
[01:11] <jp> no gui, using the command line
[01:11] <player> stefg: ouch, is there a way to fix that without loosing the data?
[01:11] <Mykelyk> Ok
[01:11] <h1st0> !language > Rizzla
[01:11] <Rizzla> alt+F2? ctrl+F2?
[01:12] <Rizzla> hlst0, my bad, cursing just part of my vernacular.. dont even notice it
[01:12] <Rizzla> my bad
[01:12] <Rizzla> i'll try and keep it to a min
[01:12] <Sarah> no firefox -> google and no ping -> google
[01:12] <Mykelyk> I downloaded ubuntu 7.10
[01:12] <_MrPink_> Rizzla: sry I am not sure, I don't know my way arround with the different windows managers
[01:12] <h1st0> !gusty > Mykelyk
[01:12] <Mykelyk> I restarted the computer with the cd
[01:12] <Rizzla> Thanks MrPink, i just dont have my top borders with my close window, maximize, min, etc
[01:12] <h1st0> jp: okay well is the card showing up under iwconfig?  Also what kind of card is it?
[01:13] <IndyGunFreak_> Sarah: sorry about that.. did that work?
[01:13] <Mykelyk> But i've got an error
[01:13] <Mykelyk> BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-2ubuntu3) Built-in shell (ash)
[01:13] <vmlinuz`> hey, who use Banshee here? When its in my system tray and i use mouse scroll it change song, I want the "scroll" to change vulome.
[01:13] <Mykelyk> Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.
[01:13] <h1st0> Mykelyk: read the message from ubotu  you need to join #ubuntu+1
[01:13] <CaptainMorgan> anyone ever have trouble with MySql Admin and Browser remotely? every time I try to login it hangs... but if I use phpmyadmin it works... the former just has better interface
[01:13] <Sarah> ok, once again i can ping google but not go there
[01:13] <Mykelyk> Sorry
[01:13] <stefg> player: there's a tool called testdisk, which can recover partition tables. But we're entering dangerous grounds  here, and without hands-on access its quite dangerous to advice you anything
[01:13] <IndyGunFreak_> Sarah: hmm..
[01:14] <unagi_> i hate public inet =/
[01:14] <unagi_> but i love compiz-fusion =)
[01:14] <clos> hey guys i install anything via apt-get
[01:14] <clos> http://pastebin.com/m1f450ae3
[01:14] <player> stefg: Will you be around tomorow to offer some help with that?
[01:14] <aleka> where can I configure Nautulis  to enable a rename option on mouse clicks rather than having to right lick to rename?
[01:15] <clos> thats what i get when i do apt-get autoclean
[01:15] <Sarah> firefox says: connecting to www.google.com... does that for ages (the page does not go 'server not found")
[01:15] <Rizzla> MrPink, i fixed it, had to restart x
[01:15] <htaccess> hi ... i am trying to watch dvds in ubuntu, i have installed libdvdcss2 libdvdnav4 libdvdplay and libdvdread3 but i still cant play dvds in xine mplayer totem etc ....
[01:15] <TuneTracker> I am trying to find a busy, active IRC channel for OpenOffice.  Can someone suggest one?
[01:15] <IndyGunFreak_> Sarah: i really don't know, doesn't make much sense.
[01:15] <unagi_> clos: i dont know what not installable means but have you tried manually installing those packages?
[01:15] <Sarah> i think that there is some sort of block somewhere
[01:15] <Sarah> i know
[01:15] <Sarah> its strange
[01:15] <sethbrown> Sarah, do you have a firewall running?
[01:15] <Wood1> usser: i noticed something in ubuntu that the screen is not as clear as in Vista(for example). The resolution is better in windows, in ubuntu the characters are big. why is that?
[01:15] <Sarah> is there on in 7.10
[01:15] <h1st0> TuneTracker: there should be an openoffice channel on here
[01:15] <unagi_> htaccess: goto add/remove and install anything that comes up when you search restricted
[01:15] <Rizzla> ok, time to get back to thunderbird
[01:15] <_Andrew> clos, try "apt-get install build-essential" and then try and install the package you want again
[01:15] <htaccess> is there a better place to get instructions for playing dvd than: https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html#video-dvd ?
[01:15] <_MrPink_> Rizzla: Ah cool, good for you :)
[01:16] <Rizzla> so i've restarted my comp
[01:16] <Rizzla> i'm goign to try and run thunderbird
[01:16] <unagi_> wood1 the resolution depends on what resolution you have it set at
[01:16] <h1st0> !enter > Rizzla
[01:16] <unagi_> the resolution of your monitor (lcd) doesnt change
[01:16] <Rizzla> already installed it via synaptic last time
[01:16] <IndyGunFreak_> i don't think its  a firewall issue.
[01:16] <stefg> player: i don't know, but if you have no backup or other means of recovery and need your data recovered you should see a local geek with  physical access to your box
[01:16] <Sarah> could it be a driver issue?
[01:16] <unagi_> !enter unagi
[01:16] <h1st0> jp: You still there does the card show up if you just type in iwconfig
[01:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about enter unagi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:16] <Rizzla> hlst0, what?
[01:16] <unagi_> unagi !enter
[01:16] <TuneTracker> h1st0 Yes, been there, but it's dead...no activity in there tonight
[01:16] <Wood1> unagi_: both with the same resolution, but the characters in Windows are smaller
[01:16] <_MrPink_> !enter
[01:16] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:16] <sethbrown> open a terminal, and type 'sudo iptables -L'. if you get back anything more than 'Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
[01:16] <clos> andrew i get that error message when i try to install the build essntials?
[01:16] <_MrPink_> aha :)
[01:17] <sethbrown> target     prot opt source               destination
[01:17] <sethbrown> Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)
[01:17] <sethbrown> target     prot opt source               destination
[01:17] <sethbrown> Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
[01:17] <sethbrown> target     prot opt source               destination
[01:17] <player> stefg: ok, thanks
[01:17] <sethbrown> ', then you have a firewall running
[01:17] <IndyGunFreak_> Sarah: i guess it could be, but it seems you wouldn't be able to ping google if the card wasnt working
[01:17] <h1st0> TuneTracker: ahh well dunno then maybe ask them if there is a more active channel
[01:17] <unagi_> i guess because windows fonts are smaller........if you want them smaller then make them smaller
[01:17] <h1st0> !paste > sethbrown
[01:17] <Wood1> !pastebin
[01:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:17] <filthpig> Mykelyk, just post any question you mighthave in here
[01:17] <Mykelyk> Is there where i cound ask for help with installing ubuntu 7.04
[01:17] <TuneTracker> h1st0 Did...  :-)  No luck.
[01:17] <Rizzla> MrPink, i'm still getting the same error
[01:17] <Sarah> ill try look up the latest driver then come back and tell u the "update"
[01:17] <TuneTracker> Thanks anyway
[01:17] <Rizzla> saing that I have to close the existing thunderbird process
[01:17] <fyrestrtr> Mykelyk: just ask the question
[01:17] <Mykelyk> Thanks
[01:17] <h1st0> !ask > Mykelyk
[01:17] <Rizzla> or restart my system, which I just did...
[01:17] <TuneTracker> bbl
[01:17] <filthpig> Mykelyk, sure is :)
[01:17] <_Andrew> !gutsy | Mykelyk
[01:17] <ubotu> Mykelyk: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[01:17] <h1st0> !enter | Rizzla
[01:17] <ubotu> Rizzla: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:18] <h1st0> !away > TuneTracker
[01:18] <clos> this happened after i tried to install deluge torrent via a .deb
[01:18] <_MrPink_> Rizzla qry me and Ill try to help
[01:18] <IndyGunFreak_> Sarah: ok, good luck
[01:18] <Mykelyk> I'm trying to install ubuntu 7.04
[01:18] <h1st0> Mykelyk: for 7.10 you need to join the #ubuntu+1 channel
[01:18] <fyrestrtr> clos: what is the error?
[01:18] <jrib> no, he is not using 7.10
[01:18] <IndyGunFreak_> Sarah: do you know what type of ethernet connection you have
[01:18] <xtknight> are the -rt kernels true tickless, or 1000hz?
[01:18] <IndyGunFreak_> ?
[01:18] <unagi_> anyone have problems with maya crashing with an unknown signal?
[01:18] <h1st0> Mykelyk: you just said earlier you were trying to install 7.10
[01:18] <usser> Wood1: probably missetup dpi for fonts
[01:19] <Mykelyk> Maybe i just typed wrong, i'm really sorry
[01:19] <clos> http://pastebin.com/m1f450ae3
[01:19] <h1st0> Mykelyk: well check the cd for defects and try burning it at a slower speed
[01:19] <Sarah> not sure, looking it up.. i have a gigabyte GA-P35-DS3
[01:19] <Mykelyk> Ok
[01:19] <Rizzla> MrPink, check your private message
[01:20] <Mykelyk> However i've got this
[01:20] <IndyGunFreak_> Sarah: ok, where did you get that info?
[01:20] <fyrestrtr> clos: where did you get the .deb?
[01:20] <Sarah> i built my own PC
[01:20] <_MrPink_> Rizzla: nothin popped up ^^ Ill just qry you ;)
[01:20] <Mykelyk> "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"
[01:20] <Rizzla> thanks
[01:20] <Sarah> plus its on the box
[01:20] <clos> from the deluge website
[01:20] <yngone> If you encrypt you whole harddisk does it erase it all with truecrypt
[01:20] <dystopianray> has anyone installed vmware player 2.0.1 in fiesty?
[01:20] <fyrestrtr> clos: are you sure its for the correct release you are using?
[01:20] <Sarah> Networking: Network adapter - Realtek RTL8111B - Ethernet, Fast Ethernet, Gigabit Ethernet
[01:20] <clos> its fine now i remvoed the package and installed the build essentials
[01:21] <IndyGunFreak_> Sarah: ok, just to make sure its recognized, open a terminal, and type "lspci" and see if it comes up in the list?
[01:21] <_MrPink_> Rizzla: now you check your qry ;)
[01:21] <IndyGunFreak_> and see how exactly it is identified
[01:21] <Rizzla> I saw it
[01:21] <Rizzla> do you see my responses?
[01:21] <Mykelyk> I can't check the cd for defects
[01:21] <Mykelyk> I've got the same error right now
[01:21] <_MrPink_> no...
[01:21] <Sarah> yes
[01:22] <Sarah> its there, on the bottom
[01:22] <_MrPink_> Rizzla are you registered with nickserv?
[01:22] <Rizzla> I dont think so
[01:22] <yngone> If you encrypt you whole harddisk does it erase it all with truecrypt
[01:22] <IndyGunFreak_> Sarah: how is it exactly identified?
[01:22] <_MrPink_> Rizzla: then you cant qry its blocked as spam
[01:22] <Rizzla> ah
[01:22] <Rizzla> how do i register with nickserv
[01:22] <_Andrew> yngone, No idea
[01:22] <IndyGunFreak_> !register
[01:22] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[01:22] <_MrPink_> Rizzla: /msg nickserv register PASSWORDOFYOURCHOICE
[01:23] <sethbrown> apologies for the paste. i'm a noob at this.
[01:23] <_MrPink_> Rizzla: that will register your nick, as long as hit hasn't already been taken
[01:23] <Rizzla> alright, got it
[01:23] <bluebanana> i unplugged my webcam while i was using camorama, now when i restart camorama, it says "Could not connect to video device (/dev/video0). Please check connection".  Please help
[01:24] <bluebanana> lsusb shows that my webcam _is_ detected
[01:24] <_Andrew> bluebanana, give a few minutes and try it again
[01:24] <Sarah> Ethernet controller: Realtek semiconductor co. ltd. RTL8111/8168B pci e xpress gigabit ethernet controller (rev 01)
[01:24] <bluebanana> _Andrew, is it just a matter of time?
[01:25] <_Andrew> bluebanana, It should work after plugging in and then starting up the app
[01:25] <IndyGunFreak_> Sarah: ok..... i would try using Google, w/ that exact phrase, and something like 'Ubuntu 7.10 help etc..", and ssee if something comes up in the ubuntu forums, or on LQ.org
[01:25] <bluebanana> _Andrew, I've re-plugged the webcam, yet camorama gives me that error message
[01:25] <Sarah> yea ok, thanx
[01:26] <_Andrew> bluebanana, close camorama and wait 30 secs and then try launching again] 
[01:26] <illovae> bonsoir
[01:26] <Kyoku> anyone know if the default 6.06 LTS version is installed with X server?
[01:26] <josh__> how do i get freenx on edgy?
[01:27] <bluebanana> _Andrew, i've done that, but still get the error message. (I unplugged my webcam while camorama was running, if it makes a difference to the problem and solution)
[01:27] <htaccess> Sarah: have a look at ethtool is you have problems with an ethernet card
[01:27] <atlfalcons866> why are the servers slow
[01:27] <fyrestrtr> the pipes are clogged
[01:27] <Sarah> ethtool?
[01:27] <Sarah> where is that?
[01:27] <htaccess> Sarah: its a command line tool
[01:27] <dystopianray> Sarah: it's installed by default
[01:28] <IndyGunFreak_> ethtool?
[01:28] <fyrestrtr> Kyoku: the desktop or the server edition?
[01:28] <IndyGunFreak_> hmm, never heard of it.
[01:28] <dystopianray> IndyGunFreak_: it's very common, check out the man page
[01:28] <_Andrew> bluebanana, Normally things like that reset themselves.
[01:28] <Sarah> "ethtool" in terminal?
[01:28] <IndyGunFreak_> dystopianray: was just doing that.. i've always had ok luck with the GUI tools.
[01:28] <htaccess> Sarah: you will proabaly need to be root
[01:29] <kkjbaja> the screen of a laptop i have is really dark and barely readable. I replaced the inverter, but when I powered on the backlight worked for a minute, flickered, and died. what could be the problem?
[01:29] <htaccess> sudo su -
[01:29] <nathalia> Hi! Does someone knows how I could put some colors in Ubuntu's default shell? I can't figure out how...
[01:30] <fyrestrtr> nathalia: a color prompt?
[01:30] <nathalia> fyrestrtr: yes
[01:31] <fyrestrtr> nathalia: uncomment line 36 in your ~/.bashrc
[01:31] <nathalia> fyrestrtr: Also I can't get VIM's syntax highlighting work... dunno if it's a problem with the shell or with vim...
[01:31] <nathalia> fyrestrtr: Let me try...
[01:31] <fluffman> so until I upgraded to Xubuntu Gutsy, anyone on this computer was able to login by clicking their name/face, like in XP.  I know I had to edit something in /etc/pam.d, but I can't find the website from before.
[01:31] <fyrestrtr> nathalia: install vim proper (sudo apt-get install vim), then turn on highlighting in your ~/.vimrc
[01:31] <dystopianray> nathalia: for vim add 'syntax on' to your ~/.vimrc
[01:32] <dystopianray> fluffman: gutsy help only in #ubuntu+1
[01:32] <josh__> exit
[01:32] <Sarah> what kernal does 7.10 use?
[01:32] <dystopianray> Sarah: 2.6.22
[01:32] <fluffman> great, thanks dystopianray
[01:32] <Sarah> thanx'
[01:33] <IndyGunFreak> Sarah: did you get it working?
[01:33] <mrcheeks> Hi everybody I have issues with ubuntu gutsy. It's the only distro with debian that dare install on my asus quad core. Everytime I start gnome I need to run metacity --replace& for metacity to run. My driver "intel" still doesn't work with xorg after a recent upgrade. Any ideas?
[01:33] <Kyoku-2> did anyone respond to kyoku's question? i was dc'd
[01:33] <Sarah> i found a linux driver
[01:33] <IndyGunFreak> Sarah: oh ok....
[01:33] <IndyGunFreak> Sarah: is there a chance its in the repositories?
[01:33] <Hartwell> Is there anyway to have amarok save the album art it feches from amazon in the music file?
[01:34] <dystopianray> mrcheeks: gutsy help only in #ubuntu+1
[01:34] <fyrestrtr> Hartwell: the format doesn't support it, afaik.
[01:34] <fyrestrtr> mrcheeks: #ubuntu+1
[01:34] <sinX_>  the Ubuntu page that is set as deafult in firefox, anyone know what directory it's in?
[01:34] <_Andrew> mrcheeks, I suggest going to #ubuntu+1 channel for help and also viewing any bug reports similar to your problem on launchpad.net
[01:34] <dystopianray> Hartwell: It can't do that, but you can copy the art ot the folder the music files are in and it'll use it as the album art for them all
[01:35] <fyrestrtr> sinX_: check ... the ... address bar?
[01:35] <Hartwell> ok because I have a zune and when I use xp in a virtual machine my music is on a network share so I would like to have the art on my zune and wmp
[01:35] <_Andrew> sinX_, file:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html ?
[01:35] <Sarah> 33kb driver lol
[01:36] <stackevil-bday> Hartwell, kick your zune in the trash
[01:36] <dystopianray> Hartwell: there may be an amarok script that can do what you want
[01:36] <stackevil-bday> its bedder 4 the world
[01:36] <mrcheeks> thanks fyrestrtr _Andrew
[01:36] <Hartwell> Im trying to
[01:36] <Hartwell> get rid of it
[01:36] <sinX_> thankx
[01:36] <Hartwell> noone is buying though
[01:37] <Hartwell> where can I find the scripts
[01:37] <_Andrew> stackevil-bday, your right the zune sucks.. zune2 is going to be so much better!
[01:37] <Hartwell> yeah has anyone cracked it for linux use?
[01:37] <dystopianray> Hartwell: Tools -> Script Manager -> Get More Scripts
[01:37] <Hartwell> thanks
[01:38] <punsad> is there a good PIM available on ubuntu that can compete with outlook in terms of print layouts of calendar/task/notes?  Outlook is really good for printing these things out and I was wondering if there's an oss alternative
[01:38] <else> does anybody know a small program e.g. for the taskbar which displays the status of my pppoe connection?
[01:38] <fyrestrtr> punsad: evolution does a decent job of printing.
[01:39] <yngone> whats the command to check ur kernel
[01:39] <dystopianray> else: network-manager can't do it?
[01:39] <nathalia> yngone: uname -r
[01:39] <fyrestrtr> else: modem monitor?
[01:39] <dystopianray> yngone: uname -r ?
[01:39] <punsad> fyrestrtr: thanks.  I'll check it out.  Printing out my daily calender is something I do each day at work and I found it works great
[01:39] <_Andrew> yngone, you mean the version number?
[01:39] <yngone> i swear i just updated
[01:39] <yngone> and its the same
[01:39] <fyrestrtr> punsad: you must waste a lot of paper
[01:39] <else> fyrestrtr, thanks
[01:39] <else> dystopianray, i'm not using gnome
[01:39] <stackevil-bday> _Andrew, i dont like the 2 versions
[01:39] <yngone> yngone@yngone-desktop:~$ uname -r
[01:40] <yngone> 2.6.17-12-generic
[01:40] <yngone> whats cmd for distro info
[01:40] <fyrestrtr> yngone: lsb_release -a
[01:40] <stackevil-bday> there's more plug and pray
[01:40] <punsad> fyrestrtr: I don't think it's a waste.  it works for me.
[01:41] <yngone> hmm i dont understand i did some big software update and it said id upgrade kernel from 6.10 to 7.4
[01:41] <fyrestrtr> punsad: I guess its not a waste then. I hardly print my calendar; I just sync it to my phone.
[01:41] <yngone> i just restarted after the update and its still 6.10
[01:41] <dystopianray> yngone: 6.10 and 7.04 are edgy and feisty
[01:41] <dystopianray> yngone: did you attempt an upgrade to feisty?
[01:41] <else> fyrestrtr, i can't find modem monitor in the repositories...
[01:41] <patty> does anyone know how to deal with emerald on 7.10?
[01:41] <stackevil-bday> or _Andrew i have the false os
[01:41] <patty> i've been fighting the mofo for quite some time
[01:41] <_Andrew> lol
[01:41] <stackevil-bday> i ust install FISTA
[01:41] <fyrestrtr> patty: people in #ubuntu+1 might
[01:41] <stackevil-bday> +m
[01:41] <yngone> i dunno i just clicked software updates cause it popped up.   184 updates
[01:41] <IndyGunFreak> dystopianray: you probably just ran software update manager, you need to run dist-upgrade to get feisty
[01:41] <dystopianray> patty: gutsy help only in #ubuntu+1
[01:41] <patty> ah alright
[01:42] <edg1> anyone can help me to change refresh rate
[01:42] <punsad> fyrestrtr: I've tried a lot of systems and for me - paper is still the best for me in terms of mobile input device
[01:42] <edg1> i can't do it
[01:42] <dystopianray> IndyGunFreak: yngone is the one asking not me
[01:42] <IndyGunFreak> dystopianray: lol, i shoulda known that..., i meant to type yngone.. not you.. my bad.. :)
[01:42] <punsad> phones and pda's are great for 'output' ... i.e. looking/reading stuff
[01:43] <yngone> yngone@yngone-desktop:~$ dist-upgrade
[01:43] <yngone> bash: dist-upgrade: command not found
[01:43] <problematic> Hi
[01:43] <dystopianray> yngone: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:43] <problematic> how can i format partition ext dos ?
[01:43] <fyrestrtr> !upgrade | yngone
[01:43] <ubotu> yngone: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:43] <problematic> how can i format partition ext dos ?
[01:43] <dystopianray> problematic: use gparted
[01:43] <IndyGunFreak> yngone: what dystopianray said.
[01:43] <yngone> Calculating upgrade... Done
[01:43] <yngone> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:43] <Sarah___> did not work
[01:44] <dystopianray> yngone: did you actually run the update-manager ?
[01:44] <IndyGunFreak> dystopianray: have you used partedmagic, its more or less a pretty version of Gparted?
[01:44] <yngone> yes
[01:44] <dystopianray> IndyGunFreak: I haven't used it
[01:44] <yngone> do i have to delte the old kernel
[01:44] <yngone> or somthing
[01:44] <yngone> switch it
[01:44] <dystopianray> IndyGunFreak: judging from the names I assume they are just different frontends to parted and so should operate more or less identically
[01:44] <punsad> problematic: gparted live cd works great for this
[01:45] <IndyGunFreak> dystopianray: yeah, they do, partedmagic is just prettier...
[01:45] <dystopianray> or even just the ubuntu livecd, that has gparted
[01:45] <yngone> do i have to delte the old kernel
[01:45] <dystopianray> yngone: no
[01:45] <IndyGunFreak> dystopianray: you know what i've never understood, since sometimes people need help partitioning, why dont they put Xchat and/or Pidgin/GAIM w/ Gparted?
[01:45] <problematic> punsad: thx
[01:45] <IndyGunFreak> i don't think it would take much work
[01:45] <dystopianray> yngone: are you actually intending to upgrade from edgy to feisty?
[01:45] <yngone> yeah
[01:45] <problematic> punsad: Now i delete this partition
[01:45] <Sarah___> i think ill just try 7.04 with the new glx drivers if they work
[01:45] <punsad> problematic: if it's a partition that you can unmount... you don't even need to reboot.  just unmount it and run gparted
[01:46] <Sarah___> if not.... bye linux (till 7.10 comes out)
[01:46] <IndyGunFreak> Sarah___: what type of video card do you have?
[01:46] <problematic> punsad: thx for all, now is great
[01:46] <dystopianray> IndyGunFreak: well the ubuntu livecd has gparted and gaim
[01:46] <Sarah___> 8800gts
[01:46] <punsad> problematic: i used to do this all the time with an older utility (fdisk... and then cfdisk came a long which was much nicer)
[01:46] <Sarah___> not supported on 7.04
[01:46] <bmt2> how do you install a file that ends in .package
 how do i do it
[01:46] <IndyGunFreak> dystopianray: true, but i tried partitioning a drive last night w/ ubuntu live CD, and it wouldn't let me
[01:46] <bmt2> i.e. : filename.package
[01:46] <punsad> no there's gparted which is point and click easy
[01:47] <IndyGunFreak> Sarah___: ya...
[01:47] <punsad> s/no/now/
[01:47] <dystopianray> IndyGunFreak: were you running gparted as root?
[01:47] <IndyGunFreak> sounds like you're in a rock and a hard place.
[01:47] <yngone> to 7.04
[01:47] <IndyGunFreak> dystopianray: yup
[01:47] <dystopianray> yngone: I'm not sure I've never used ugprade-manager
[01:47] <IndyGunFreak> dystopianray: well, let me rephrase, i think he was, he wasn't very bright, i was helping him via IM
[01:47] <IndyGunFreak> i figured downloading gparted was almost foolproof..lol, which worked well for him
[01:48] <dystopianray> woah, 7.10 livecd memory requirements are up to >=384MB
[01:48] <eugman> Gah! I disconnected the external harddrive during an sbackup, could I have damaged anything?
[01:48] <h1st0> dystopianray: you've never installed updates
[01:48] <dystopianray> h1st0: I've never upgraded from one release to another
[01:48] <h1st0> dystopianray: ahh
[01:48] <IndyGunFreak> me either.. clean installs here at camp gunfreak.
[01:49] <h1st0> No need for that
[01:49] <IndyGunFreak> h1st0: for what?
[01:49] <h1st0> But to each his own
[01:49] <IndyGunFreak> h1st0: clean install iss faster
[01:49] <h1st0> No need for clean installs the upgrades have gotten pretty slick with the last few releases.
[01:49] <guru> is there a special prayer i have to say or a specific animal i need to sacrifice to configure eth0 to use a static ip address instead of dynamic? i made the changes in /etc/network/interfaces and executed /etc/init.d/networking restart yet it reverts back to dhcp
[01:50] <h1st0> IndyGunFreak: actually thats not true you are downloading the same amount of data.
[01:50] <IndyGunFreak> h1st0: well,, torrents usually the whole iSO comes in around 15min... so then I install using the Alt. cd, again, another 15-20min...
[01:50] <hagedorn>  hi
[01:50] <hagedorn>  anybody know vgs error problems in googles ganeti xen cluster  management suite ?
[01:50] <hagedorn>  on ubunt
[01:50] <yngone> figureed it out
[01:50] <yngone> upgrading now
[01:50] <h1st0> guru: maybe there is an error with yoru ../interfaces file?  if not ifdown eth0 ifup eth0
[01:51] <IndyGunFreak> remove software i don't want..., install software I want and setup hardware... copy backup files, usually takes me about 40min or so.. so i have it done in about an error.
[01:51] <guru> i did that as well - no errors
[01:51] <h1st0> IndyGunFreak: you are forgetting about the time downloading the cd
[01:51] <h1st0> IndyGunFreak: thats what i mean by the same.
[01:52] <yngone> will ipkungfu still work after distro upgrade or i have to reinstall
[01:52] <h1st0> IndyGunFreak: I just keep a seperate /home so if I ever do have to reinstall or switch distros I don't need to move anything
[01:52] <IndyGunFreak> h1st0: the torrents are usually [retty fast for me, 5-600k, i've never tried to update and get close to that speed(specially right at new release time)
[01:52] <IndyGunFreak> h1st0: lol, i dont like the separate /home thing... i just do what i gotta do.
[01:53] <usser> IndyGunFreak: why not ?
[01:53] <usser> IndyGunFreak: is it just how u feel?
[01:53] <edg1> i can't change refresh rate
[01:53] <IndyGunFreak> usser: pretty much
[01:53] <IndyGunFreak> no real reason
[01:53] <yngone> will ipkungfu still work after distro upgrade or i have to reinstall
[01:53] <yngone> and xhcat
[01:53] <usser> IndyGunFreak: i find it pretty useful )
[01:53] <h1st0> IndyGunFreak: its really nice keeping all yoru settnigs and files
[01:54] <h1st0> yngone: What do you mean?
[01:54] <edg1> how to change refresh rate of a monitor
[01:54] <yngone> im upgrading from 6.10 to 7.04
[01:54] <yngone> distro upgrade and i have a few things installed
[01:54] <yngone> do they get erased
[01:55] <dystopianray> has anyone installed vmware player 2.0.1 in feisty?
[01:55] <Kyoku> how can i give my current user root permissions from the command line, i have to use SFTP and keep getting permission denied
[01:55] <usser> yngone: no they should not
[01:55] <eugman> Can anyone tell me if interrupting sbackup could harm anything?
[01:55] <usser> Kyoku: sudo
[01:55] <HYPOCRISY> Hi
[01:55] <D4N`> hi
[01:55] <Kyoku> i can't use sudo over SFTP
[01:56] <Kyoku> i need to make my user permanently as powerful as root
[01:56] <usser> Kyoku: sudo su
[01:56] <usser> Kyoku: oh
[01:56] <Ashfire908> how do i use/setup the ssh keys when using ssh
[01:56] <D4N`> I'll soon find out
[01:56] <usser> Kyoku: u cant use sudo duh, )
[01:56] <guru> stupid dhcp
[01:56] <guru> dhcp was running in the background and overriding my changes
[01:56] <Kyoku> i know :) how do i promote the user to have root equiv permissions from command line?
[01:57] <dxdt> Ashfire908: pretty easy, google it out.  Mostly you just add the generated key to one file in .ssh/authorized_keys
[01:57] <broken> I have .uif file and apparently that requires magiciso to burn, is there a way to get magiciso?
[01:57] <edg1> how to change the default 50 Hz rate of monitor configured by ubuntu to another one?
[01:57] <HYPOCRISY> don't know
[01:57] <Metasploit> kyoku, ask the administrator for the password
[01:57] <dxdt> edg1: Edit your xorg.conf  In there you will be able to change the refresh rates
[01:57] <Kyoku> i am the administrator ... there is no root account setup
[01:58] <usser> Kyoku: so let me get this straight u login through sftp as a regular user and want to have root powers?
[01:58] <dxdt> Kyoku: Ubuntu doesn't have root to start with
[01:58] <edg1> i tryed, but coudln't , i will try again
[01:58] <Kyoku> correct.. cos i can't use sudo over sftp obviously
[01:58] <Ashfire908> ubuntu has root
[01:58] <IndyGunFreak> broken: are you looking for a linux program, or a windows program?
[01:58] <Metasploit> sounds fishy
[01:58] <Metasploit> hehe
[01:58] <broken> IndyGunFreak: linux program
[01:59] <broken> On my gentoo installation I can compile magiciso
[01:59] <broken> But on ubuntu I cannot find it.
[01:59] <ozco> In Evolution, is it possible to create one inbox for each email-account?
[01:59] <usser> Kyoku: did u try !command sudo stuff that gotta work
[01:59] <guru> and this *still* didn't work...i should not have to restart my system to go from dhcp to static. i consider this a serious bug
[01:59] <s2a> hardmodem problems, sum1 please help
[02:00] <Kyoku> when i try a custom command WinSCP disconnects me
[02:00] <IndyGunFreak> broken: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=562195
[02:00] <IndyGunFreak> second post
[02:01] <usser> Kyoku: well i dont see any way then other than turning on the root account on the remote machine
[02:01] <broken> lol
[02:01] <broken> you are kidding me, wine?
[02:01] <IndyGunFreak> broken: looks that way
[02:01] <Kyoku> how do i turn root on from command line?
[02:01] <broken> Kyoku: sudo -i ?
[02:01] <usser> Kyoku: there was a faq somewhere on the net
[02:01] <Kyoku> no... i mean so i can login as root
[02:01] <Kyoku> not sudo
[02:01] <broken> There is actually a root terminal.
[02:02] <Kyoku> not b y default there isn't
[02:02] <broken> but Kyoku you won't be able to get "root"
[02:02] <Kyoku> there has to be a way to activate root
[02:02] <broken> Kyoku: all you have to do is enable it in the menu prefrences.
[02:02] <usser> Kyoku: http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2007/03/how-to-enable-and-disable-ubuntu-root.html
[02:02] <Ximal> hello
[02:02] <Kyoku> there is no menu...
[02:02] <s2a> ppl, plz go to: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=557511  to help me with my hardmodem problem
[02:02] <broken> Where are you?
[02:02] <Kyoku> i am running server version
[02:02] <Ximal> is there support here for the new 7.10 gutsy ?
[02:02] <broken> Ah.
[02:02] <usser> Kyoku: oh
[02:02] <usser> Kyoku: so sftp as root then
[02:03] <Hartwell> I found the script for amarok but I dont know if its working or not
[02:03] <Metasploit> ximal:  #ubuntu+1
[02:03] <Kyoku> i can't, ubuntu doesn't set up a root account by default
[02:03] <Kyoku> that's the whole point
[02:03] <Hartwell> btw its called copycover
[02:03] <Ximal> I needed help because the system detected I had nvidia and now i can't get it to redetect it and suggest which driver to install
[02:03] <broken> This is what I get for downloading .uif files. lol
[02:03] <Ximal> so i'm not sure if the +1 is for me.. or if someone here could help me with that basic function to get it to detect and suggest again...  Metasploit ?
[02:03] <edg1> done..
[02:03] <Alonea> anyone have any experience with network-manager? I am trying to install in manually since the adept one has yet to work, but I am having trouble installing. http://pastebin.ca/728437
[02:03] <usser> Kyoku: i thought server did so well read the link i sent u
[02:04] <usser> Kyoku: its sudo passwd root
[02:04] <usser> Kyoku: gonna add root account
[02:04] <shadylookin> anyone know of a good guide for enabling composite extensions so that i can use compiz-fusion?
[02:04] <Kyoku> didn't get a link
[02:04] <usser> Kyoku: http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2007/03/how-to-enable-and-disable-ubuntu-root.html
[02:04] <edg1> i think that CRT monitors, harm eyes..
[02:04] <usser> Ky] 
[02:05] <Kyoku> thanks i'll check it out
[02:05] <s2a> CRT monitors do harm eyes
[02:05] <IndyGunFreak> really?
[02:05] <s2a> all monitors do but LCD harms much less than CRT ones
[02:05] <Ximal> Metasploit: Do you or anyone else know how i might do that ? find which driver i need to install ? please i'll check +1 also
[02:05] <IndyGunFreak> hmm
[02:05] <edg1> yes, like i see
[02:05] <usser> Kyoku: it goes agains the whole ubuntu philosophy but, hey server has gotta have a root account thats my personal belief
[02:06] <Metasploit> no i dont know becuase its updating like every day. so other than the normal..
[02:06] <Kyoku> yah, i guess my alternative is to setup samba
[02:06] <Dialntone> my firefox doesn't set my xmms media player to default i tried other application to use and the terminal cmd xmms.. and it can't find it
[02:06] <Dialntone> anyone know whats wrong?
[02:06] <s2a> edg1: spoil urself with a nice LCD ;)
[02:07] <usser> Kyoku: or NFS
[02:07] <lokadin> hey how do i get flash player working in my firefox?
[02:07] <IndyGunFreak> i'm really spoiled...lol
[02:07] <Dialntone> lokadin, u have a soundblaster?
[02:07] <s2a> i want a 30 inch lcd monitor
[02:07] <usser> IndyGunFreak: what tool u use that xinerama thing?
[02:07] <IndyGunFreak> usser: twinview.
[02:07] <s2a> i only have 20 inches now :(
[02:08] <lokadin> Dialntone: i don't think so,  youtube says to get latest flash player version
[02:08] <IndyGunFreak> usser: dual display is really easy to setup w/ Nvidia.. ATI, i never go tit to work.
[02:08] <Dialntone> your on ubuntu?
[02:08] <edg1> s2a :D
[02:08] <lokadin> yep
[02:08] <usser> IndyGunFreak: twinview is nvidia's tool?
[02:08] <IndyGunFreak> usser: um, i think so.
[02:09] <IndyGunFreak> usser: its an option in nvidia-settings
[02:09] <s2a> edg1: go for widescreen, its sooo much better for everything
[02:09] <s2a> and plz somebody help me with my hardmodem problem! i am soooo desperate to get it to work :'(
[02:09] <IndyGunFreak> i have 2 19in LCD's, i love them.. don't know how i got along w/o dual displays
[02:09] <lokadin> s2a: is it external?
[02:09] <IndyGunFreak> i see a PC w/ only one display now, and i think, "How do you live w/ so little space"..lol.. and i used to think dual displays were ridiculous
[02:10] <s2a> lokadin: ya it's a serial one ( go to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=557511)
[02:10] <Dialntone> crap i don't know just add/remove progs and install flash or type flash in the search field, install from their works 4 me
[02:10] <lokadin> Dialntone: kk i'll try it out
[02:11] <s2a> IndyGunFreak: dual-display wouldn't be good for me cuz i wana play games but it rely helps alot for work or "work"
[02:11] <Dialntone> im trying to figure out why xmms doesn't default itself for firefox
[02:11] <IndyGunFreak> s2a: well its definitely *work* for me..lol
[02:11] <s2a> IndyGunFreak: lol
[02:11] <h1st0> Dialntone: navigate firefox to about:plugins
[02:13] <Dialntone> no its not plug-ins
[02:13] <usser> IndyGunFreak: its great, i gotta myself another screen
[02:13] <Dialntone> open firefox, and goto shoutcast.com -- find a server u like ot listen too, and its' says "open with" -- i manual type in xmms -- and i get nothing say's null
[02:14] <Kyoku> does anyone run the server version with x windows as well? or is it a big no no?
[02:14] <Dialntone> :( i need xmms a default for my audio player
[02:14] <usser> Dialntone: yea that happens
[02:14] <Dialntone> how..
[02:15] <TUXedomember> how can i setup a scsi radi?
[02:15] <Phantombrainm> xmms? why not audacious?
[02:15] <IndyGunFreak> xmms is a bit old.
[02:15] <Dialntone> must be xmms
[02:15] <usser> Dialntone: type in /usr/bin/xmms instead
[02:15] <Phantombrainm> audacious can everything xmms can. It can also load the xmms skins but is gtk+
[02:15] <h1st0> !raid > TUXedomember
[02:15] <IndyGunFreak> usser: here's the the nvidia-settings screen, this is what i get when i hit configure...  http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j263/IndyGunFreak/twinview.jpg
[02:15] <Dialntone> :D
[02:16] <Dialntone> leme see
[02:16] <Kyoku> scsi raid done at hardware level isn't it?
[02:16] <Dialntone> thank you
[02:16] <IndyGunFreak> Phantombrainm: which is a good thing, because the audacious skins are atrocious
[02:16] <Dialntone> it works,  why isn't xmms showing up ?
[02:16] <CSI> highlights ;o
[02:16] <usser> IndyGunFreak: oh yea its that easy??
[02:16] <usser> IndyGunFreak: thanks
[02:16] <Dialntone> no folder, and its just in the system
[02:16] <IndyGunFreak> usser: that easy... nothing to it.
[02:17] <Dialntone> THANK you .. :)
[02:17] <IndyGunFreak> usser: hit configure, configure both monitors(which is left, which is right, resolutions, etc..)... hit apply, then as long as youve sudo nvidia-settings, apply to X... then it will ask you to restart
[02:17] <s3a> omg, plzzzzzz help!!! y wont my hardmodem work!?!?!
[02:17] <Phantombrainm> indeed.
[02:17] <yngone> how would u add somthing to always start on boot (trying to add ipkungfu
[02:18] <h1st0> yngone: you just edit /etc/network/interfaces
[02:18] <ratpoison> yngone: system > prefs> sessions
[02:19] <h1st0> ratpoison: no
[02:19] <yngone> just type sudo ipkunfu?
[02:19] <h1st0> yngone: no edi the interfaces file those settings will stay on boot
[02:19] <ratpoison> h1st0: I got the point after I actually replied... sorry kinda drowsy
[02:19] <h1st0> yngone: or if you are using gui you can just use the network manager by the clock
[02:20] <Sarah> anyone here install an 8800gts on ubuntu 7.04?
[02:20] <IndyGunFreak> Sarah___: it won't work
[02:20] <IndyGunFreak> its a bug in 7.04
[02:20] <h1st0> !anyone | Sarah
[02:20] <ubotu> Sarah: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:20] <yngone> what do i out in interfaces
[02:20] <h1st0> IndyGunFreak: sure it will
[02:20] <IndyGunFreak> h1st0: well, i think to make it work, you have to download the nvidia driver from nvidia's site..
[02:20] <Sarah> oh u mean completly?
[02:20] <h1st0> yngone: change it to whatever settings you need
[02:21] <yngone> i just need
[02:21] <Sarah> i tried their driver and it crashed my computer
[02:21] <IndyGunFreak> but doing it the *easy* way, has been unsuccessful
[02:21] <BillyBeans> how do i start my apache server?
[02:21] <yngone> ipkungfu to startup on boot
[02:21] <yngone> the firewall
[02:21] <h1st0> Sarah: did you try nvidia-glx-new?
[02:21] <anessen> My 7950 was without support for a while, they seem kind of slow with the Linux drivers
[02:21] <Phantombrainm> does anyone /anybody know why anyone /anybody writes anyone anybody always first? :D
[02:21] <Sarah> .....
[02:21] <h1st0> yngone: oh the firewall
[02:21] <h1st0> yngone: I thought you were trying to say ipconfig
[02:21] <IndyGunFreak> h1st0: i trid to help a guy through this last night...  everyone says its a bug.
[02:21] <yngone> no the firewall i keep having to start it manual
[02:21] <Sarah> whats the whole line?
[02:21] <IndyGunFreak> supposdly fixed in gutsy
[02:21] <h1st0> yngone: well you can add it to /etc/rc.local or go to System > preferences > Session and add it there.
[02:22] <Sarah> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new?
[02:22] <h1st0> Sarah: well hold on
[02:22] <yngone> i added it session,   just put   sudo ipkungfu for cmd
[02:22] <h1st0> let me see if there is a bug
[02:22] <h1st0> yngone: you can use sudo like that.
[02:22] <yngone> can or cant
[02:23] <h1st0> yngone: sry can't
[02:23] <yngone> so just put
[02:23] <yngone> ipkungfu
[02:23] <JamoSmith> how do I allow ppl to connect to my ubuntu machine without me first logging into it. ie) when they connect they must start their own session
[02:24] <usser> JamoSmith: through what protocol?
[02:24] <usser> JamoSmith: vnc?
[02:24] <blockcipher> Hey all.  I just did a fresh install of Feisty...I needed a clean machine :)   For the life of me I cannot get viewing mov and wmv files to view in Firefox propelry....Any input?  Ive tried the info at ubuntuguide also tried easyubuntu...
[02:24] <IndyGunFreak> Sarah: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/10159
[02:24] <heartsblood> were is the config file for compiz saved?
[02:25] <mirak> hi
[02:25] <clos> is anyone here using wine and utorrent?
[02:26] <IndyGunFreak> clos: i have, but i'm not now..
[02:26] <IndyGunFreak> there's a lot of Linux torrent client
[02:26] <clos> i know
[02:26] <clos> but i need the webui
[02:26] <JamoSmith> usser: I just explored 'Remote Desktop' from the preferences and it seems that's only sharing the desktop opposed to letting users have their own
[02:26] <clos> it installs fine
[02:26] <IndyGunFreak> clos: ok
[02:26] <Mileeta> I could use some help setting up sound on my Feisty install, if anyone has a chance.  The FAQ didn't help, but I could be doing it wrong.
[02:26] <clos> and i can download torrents via ktorrent and rtorrent
[02:26] <h1st0> Sarah: I can't seem to find anything did you try using the restricted drivers manager?
[02:26] <IndyGunFreak> ok.
[02:26] <usser> JamoSmith: oh that actually there are a lot of options )
[02:26] <clos> but it never connects to any peers or seeds
[02:26] <IndyGunFreak> h1st0:   https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/10159
[02:27] <clos> in utorrent that is
[02:27] <Sarah> they crashed my computer
[02:27] <clos> it was working with an older version of wine...
[02:27] <IndyGunFreak> clos: sorry, don't really know, as i don't use it now.. check wine's app database
[02:27] <IndyGunFreak> maybe there's a known issue.
[02:27] <usser> JamoSmith: hang on i look up a faq, ive never done it myself
[02:27] <heartsblood> clos: go check out deluge
[02:27] <JamoSmith> usser: thank you
[02:27] <heartsblood> clos: it has everything utorrent has
[02:28] <clos> it won't install heartsblood
[02:28] <heartsblood> whats the error?
[02:28] <Mileeta> I don't have any sound whatsoever on my fresh Feisty install... can anyone help?
[02:28] <dano-> im using wine and utorrent
[02:28] <dano-> without any problems
[02:29] <palm> hello guys
[02:29] <clos> dano
[02:29] <clos> what version of wine do you have?
[02:29] <kurisutofuaa> any one know of a good tutorial on the nautilus-actions (app)?
[02:29] <palm> im need some help with my ubuntu feisty...
[02:29] <dano-> wine-0.9.41
[02:29] <clos> see i'm using 0.9.9 :-/
[02:29] <mirak> why can't we have in sudo something like instead of having to enter your password a popup comes and just ask you if you want to execute the command as root
[02:29] <mirak> ?
[02:29] <clos> is there anyway i can downgrade with apt-get?
[02:30] <heartsblood> mirak: windows vista --->
[02:30] <Mykelyk> Hi, I've got a problem with ubuntu 7.04
[02:30] <palm> i want to use 2 analogic capture card (enltv) at same time
[02:30] <clos> here is what the error looks like when i try to install deluge
[02:30] <clos> http://pastebin.com/m48f57608
[02:30] <Mykelyk> It's my first installation
[02:30] <Ashfire908> clos you should, as long as you can still get the old package
[02:30] <IndyGunFreak> clos: are you running gutsy?.. but no, you can't downgrade, that requires a clean install.
[02:30] <clos> ok
[02:30] <Mykelyk> That's the error: "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"
[02:31] <heartsblood> mirak: if you need to do a lot of work on your system at once enable root and login as su
[02:31] <clos> i mean
[02:31] <IndyGunFreak> clos: why did you bother upgrading, its not final yet?
[02:31] <clos> i just need to downgrade wine
[02:31] <Ashfire908> Mykelyk, won't boot of the cd?
[02:31] <IndyGunFreak> clos: oh ok.
[02:31] <Mykelyk> The cd start
[02:31] <heartsblood> wow I didn't get kicked for telling somebody for using root!
[02:31] <clos> where i can i find the .deb package?
[02:31] <palm> anybosy can help me how to configure my 2# card?
[02:31] <Mykelyk> But ubunto won't load
[02:31] <IndyGunFreak> clos: give it a minute, the ops are o the way... :)
[02:31] <IndyGunFreak> UBUNTU
[02:32] <h1st0> bug 98641
[02:32] <IndyGunFreak> what is it with people ubunto
[02:32] <h1st0> Sarah: bug #98641
[02:32] <Ashfire908> Mykelyk, i've had that issue with some stuff
[02:32] <IndyGunFreak> h1st0: where is the bug list?
[02:32] <h1st0> IndyGunFreak: launchpad
[02:32] <astro76> heartsblood, :) no need, use sudo -i for a root shell ;)
[02:32] <h1st0> !bug
[02:32] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[02:32] <Ashfire908> Mykelyk, i have never resolved it, and i don't think there is a easy way
[02:33] <h1st0> !bug 98641 | Sarah
[02:33] <Mykelyk> You are frightening me
[02:33] <heartsblood> astro76: I wasn't aware you could get a root shell from sudo o.o
[02:33] <h1st0> Mykelyk: You need to check the cd for errors
[02:33] <Sarah> ill just use envy
[02:33] <h1st0> Mykelyk: and you need to join #ubuntu+1 for gutsy
[02:33] <Sarah> it seams to work
[02:33] <c0rrupt0r> what kernel version does ubuntu 7.04 feisty use?
[02:33] <mirak> heartsblood: that's not the question. I think having to enter my root password 4 times an hour is too much. but I also think having sudo always in passwordless mode is to much also, that's why just have to answer yes or no to get root grants is an nice intermediate
[02:33] <IndyGunFreak> Sarah: all posts iv'e read indicate envy doesnt work either.
[02:33] <Sarah> i used it b4
[02:33] <blockcipher> Hey all.  I just did a fresh install of Feisty...I needed a clean machine :)   For the life of me I cannot get viewing mov and wmv files to view in Firefox propelry....Any input?  Ive tried the info at ubuntuguide also tried easyubuntu...
[02:33] <Sarah> its just really buggy
[02:33] <Ashfire908> that isn't a gusty issue...
[02:34] <Mykelyk> I can't check the cd
[02:34] <h1st0> Sarah: there is a fix for it.
[02:34] <IndyGunFreak> Sarah: ok.
[02:34] <Mykelyk> I've got the same error
[02:34] <h1st0> Sarah: you need a file out of the nvidia.com driver  there are directions on the bug for a fix
[02:34] <Sarah> ok
[02:34] <h1st0> Mykelyk: did you try burning it at a slower speed?
[02:34] <Mykelyk> At the lowest i have: 2x
[02:34] <h1st0> mirak: sudo should hold your password for 15mins
[02:35] <Sarah> um, im on this bug site but i dont know what im looking at
[02:35] <h1st0> mirak: and you can change that time limit
[02:35] <h1st0> !bug 98641
[02:35] <Mykelyk> I've got the 7.04
[02:35] <c0rrupt0r> what kernel version does ubuntu 7.04 feisty use?
[02:35] <Ashfire908> Mykelyk, did 7.04 work?
[02:35] <h1st0> c0rrupt0r: i believe its 2.6.20-15
[02:35] <h1st0> c0rrupt0r: not on my box right now though
[02:36] <Ashfire908> c0rrupt0r, 2.6.20-16
[02:36] <Mykelyk> No, only the first menu
[02:36] <IndyGunFreak> Sarah: look at Aaron D. Campbell's post
[02:36] <c0rrupt0r> ok thank you h1st0
[02:36] <h1st0> Mykelyk: if you get tot he menu then you can check the cd
[02:36] <h1st0> Mykelyk: its like the third option down
[02:36] <clos> how do i figure out what version of ubuntu i'm running? i'm ssh'ing to a dedicated server
[02:36] <Mykelyk> I tryed
[02:36] <m1ke> has anyone be able to get a xbox 360 wireless controller to work in gusty?
[02:36] <h1st0> c0rrupt0r: also i believe gutsy uses 2.6.22
[02:36] <GigaClon> close uname -r
[02:36] <Ashfire908> Mykelyk, some systems just won't run the live cd.
[02:36] <AirBender> c0rrupt0r you can check it any time typing: uname -r in a Terminal
[02:36] <GigaClon> clos uname -r
[02:37] <Sarah> wait
[02:37] <h1st0> !anyone > m1ke
[02:37] <Sarah> i was sent to this site
[02:37] <Sarah> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98641
[02:37] <c0rrupt0r> oh great help thank you
[02:37] <Mykelyk> It said kernel loading, and some stuff like this
[02:37] <clos> thats my kernel
[02:37] <Sarah> is that rite?
[02:37] <s2a> does kppp work in ubuntu or only in kubuntu and xubuntu?
[02:37] <clos> i want to know what version of ubuntu?
[02:37] <JamoSmith> usser: did you find anything?
[02:37] <Ashfire908> m1ke, you try searching the ubuntu forums?
[02:37] <blockcipher> clos, cat /etc/issue
[02:37] <h1st0> Sarah: no
[02:37] <dystopianray> s2a: it should work anywhere
[02:37] <h1st0> Sarah: it should be a launchpad site
[02:37] <Sarah> that would be why
[02:37] <Mykelyk> And then :"BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-2ubuntu3) Built-in shell (ash)"
[02:37] <Mykelyk> "Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands."
[02:37] <m1ke> Ashfire908, i have posted many times will no luck.
[02:37] <Mykelyk> "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"
[02:38] <IndyGunFreak> Sarah: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20/+bug/98641
[02:38] <s2a> dystopianray: were do i get a .deb version of it, cuz i find only things that need probly compilation and i dont no how to compile stuff
[02:38] <h1st0> Sarah: launchpad.net/98641
[02:38] <IndyGunFreak> lol, i guess you being on the wrong site didn't help maters
[02:38] <Sarah> thanx
[02:38] <h1st0> Sarah: sry launchpad.net/bugs/98641
[02:38] <dystopianray> s2a: sudo apt-get install kppp
[02:38] <Ashfire908> Mykelyk, your comp won't run it.
[02:38] <Mykelyk> Ashfire908: What can i do for install ubuntu then?
[02:38] <Ashfire908> Mykelyk, at least busybox
[02:38] <s2a> dystopianray: i have no internet on the laptop
[02:38] <IndyGunFreak> Sarah: look at Aaron D. Campbell's post
[02:38] <Ashfire908> Mykelyk, alt cd
[02:38] <Sarah> the first guy?
[02:38] <Ashfire908> Mykelyk, *alternate
[02:38] <usser> JamoSmith: cant find it
[02:38] <Sarah> oh down the page
[02:38] <mirak> h1st0: yes but it's unsafe. during that 15 minutes any script or application can already trash the computer because it can take root grants
[02:38] <LjL> !ttyerror > Mykelyk    (Mykelyk, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:39] <s2a> dystopianray: im on a windows comp now hopin to get it and transfer it thru a usb flash drive
[02:39] <Mykelyk> Ok, i'll try
[02:39] <h1st0> Sarah: they basically explain downloadign the nvidia drivers extracting the contents and copying the proper file.  I'm assuming you'll still need nvidia-glx-new installed for this to work.  but the page will be more helpfull
[02:39] <JamoSmith> usser: so you're saying that you believe I shoudl be enable Remote Desktop beyond the scope of a single existing session
[02:39] <Ashfire908> Mykelyk, it's a text-based installer
[02:39] <dystopianray> s2a: are you using feisty?
[02:39] <h1st0> mirak: thats why you can configure it to your liking.
[02:39] <wood1> when enabling compiz, the screen flashes (blinks) every 10 - 20 secs.. how can i fix that?
[02:39] <Sarah> ahh im so confused
[02:39] <s2a> dystopianray: ya
[02:39] <usser> JamoSmith: no not that
[02:39] <palm> thx
[02:39] <Ashfire908> Mykelyk, make sure to pick the first option
[02:39] <dystopianray> s2a: http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/net/kppp
[02:39] <Sarah> ok, so what is this nvidia glx new that i need installed?
[02:39] <h1st0> wood1: ask in #ubuntu-effects
[02:39] <usser> JamoSmith: there should be something like xdmcp server
[02:39] <bluebanana> what's the command to "enqueue" media files into totem or some other media player?
[02:39] <wood1> h1st0: thanks
[02:39] <Ashfire908> Sarah, it's a driver
[02:40] <s2a> dystopianray: does that need to be compiled?
[02:40] <Sarah> yes but is it that driver from nvidia, the one i am downloading
[02:40] <dystopianray> s2a: no, you download the deb from that page
[02:40] <mirak> h1st0: what I am saying is that I can't have all settings I would like
[02:40] <h1st0> Sarah: its the driver but its missing a file.  Just double check the bug and make sure you need that for the fix to work.
[02:40] <JamoSmith> usser: can you say whether or not this process would be complicated for a noob or not? if so, I'll just use the remote desktop and call it a good day for now
[02:40] <h1st0> Sarah: its an older version
[02:41] <DARKGuy> Hey people, having two video cards (nVIDIA GF4, main card - Trident, secondary) can I start my X normally on the main one, and run a different VT on the second display ( :1, or Trident) and control it using "screen" ?
[02:41] <usser> JamoSmith: hang on do u have
[02:41] <usser> System-->Administration-->Login Window-->
[02:41] <usser> Remote-->
[02:41] <Sarah> wait, it says fix released on kernal 2.6.22
[02:41] <n0cturnal|gutsy> Mykelyk, I had the same problem on gutsy, add 'all_generic_ide' to kernel boot options before '--' : look here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/129817
[02:41] <Sarah> cant i just update my kernal
[02:41] <s2a> dystopianray: k, thx, i hope that detects my hardmodem
[02:41] <Jordan_U> DARKGuy, Yes, you can even have X on both
[02:41] <h1st0> Sarah: DARKGuy controlling it using screen might be an issue but youu could certainly start another X on the other vc
[02:41] <dystopianray> DARKGuy: you should be able to run a second X server using the secondary card on :1
[02:42] <JamoSmith> usser: yes that tab is there
[02:42] <Sarah> um...
[02:42] <Sarah> ok.....
[02:42] <usser> JamoSmith: ok is there Style:Same as Local option?
[02:42] <AirBender> Sarah, in that case I suggest you to upgrade to Ubuntu Gutsy
[02:42] <Sarah> i tried
[02:42] <Sarah> no internet
[02:42] <Guam> I need some help :[
[02:42] <AirBender> aps
[02:43] <IndyGunFreak> thats right, you still have no internet
[02:43] <Sarah> donno why it just wont pick it up, it has my ethernet device there, and i can ping google
[02:43] <Sarah> i have internet now
[02:43] <IndyGunFreak> oh ok.
[02:43] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U, h1st0, dystopianray: Yes I've tried that once, messed my sistem up big time trying x2x and synergy and had to reinstall... I had an idea to run two X servers, control them with my ps2 keyboard/mouse and make it work just like xinerama (so my gf4 could run CF) but it never worked, so I have an idea to have the secondary display just run "top", or "links" or any other terminal-like thing in order to make things simple - I would love to make it t
[02:43] <DARKGuy> o be able to use X but it was a really bad experience for me :(
[02:43] <Sarah> but im on 7.04
[02:43] <JamoSmith> usser: yup, then there is some XDMCP options on the bottom
[02:43] <DARKGuy> *system
[02:43] <pooter> arrgh.  New kernel is breaking my laptop.  How do I revert to previous kernel, and prevent update next time?
[02:44] <Guam> How do I change my screen resolution on Ubuntu 7.04 Feosty Fawn?
[02:44] <nixno0b> is there a way to get gnome-panel to not expand and stay off to the right?
[02:44] <Guam> Feisty*
[02:44] <AirBender> Sarah, so you mean that on Gutsy you can't connect to the internet ?
[02:44] <nixno0b> gnome-panel always moves to the middle
[02:44] <h1st0> pooter: just restart and hit esc when grub is loading and select the older kernel from the list
[02:44] <Sarah> thats rite
[02:44] <AirBender> uhmm, that's strange, must be a little detail...
[02:44] <h1st0> pooter: you can then remove the new kernel package and tell it to keep the old one at the current version
[02:44] <usser> JamoSmith: oh question, your clients they are windows or linux machines
[02:44] <DARKGuy> nixno0b, press the middle button of your mouse on the panel area (edges or something) and drag it to the left or right
[02:44] <h1st0> !keep > pooter
[02:44] <Jordan_U> DARKGuy, So what is the end result that you want? Two video cards driving two screens with compiz fusion?
[02:45] <dystopianray> DARKGuy: you can't just do dual monitor on the main card?
[02:45] <Jordan_U> h1st0, !keep doesn't do anything
[02:45] <AirBender> Sarah, what kind of connection do you use?
[02:45] <nixno0b> DARKGuy, thanks, sorry i have a laptop, no middle button
[02:45] <Sarah> AirBender: ethrenet
[02:45] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U, heh, I wish! :P but my trident 4Mb PCI card can't handle that, so my idea is to have it running an X server (or in its defect, a terminal) and move my mouse/input from a display to another
[02:45] <pooter> h1st0  Did the grub to get here.  Where is the remove (synaptic?) and the hold and do not update kernel?
[02:45] <DARKGuy> dystopianray, nope, I don't have any RCA->VGA converter
[02:45] <s2a> dystopianray: kppp says dependency is not satisfiable, this also happened with opera, it's very annoying
[02:45] <JamoSmith> usser: windows
[02:46] <h1st0> !apt > pooter
[02:46] <nixno0b> DARKGuy,  thanks nvm I got it, youre the best
[02:46] <dystopianray> s2a: get the deb for the dependancy
[02:46] <AirBender> Sarah, Have you tried it without using NetworkManager?
[02:46] <DARKGuy> nixno0b, hm, I think pressing the two laptop click buttons works :P
[02:46] <Jordan_U> DARKGuy, So why do you not want to use xinnerama, or would that be OK ?
[02:46] <DARKGuy> nixno0b, lol, good luck :P
[02:46] <h1st0> pooter: I don't know how to do it in synaptic but it can be done using apt read the message from ubotu
[02:46] <pooter> Thank you h1st0
[02:46] <Abaddon> Anyone care to help?
[02:46] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U, Xinerama would be ok, but then I can't run CF because it tries to be the WM and it can't manage display :1 because it doesn't support opengl by hardware
[02:47] <djohngo> I need to work off the livecd for a few days, but my computer doesn't have much memory.  Can anyone tell me how to install some console apps like Pine and Links?
[02:47] <s2a> dystopianray: wat do u mean? i have to dl extra files from same page or sumtin?
[02:47] <dystopianray> s2a: yes
[02:47] <s2a> dystopianray: cuz for opera, on desktop pc with ubuntu, i dint have dependency problem
[02:48] <dystopianray> s2a: you must satisfy all the dependancies for kppp if you want to use it
[02:48] <usser> JamoSmith: bah then its no use, there are no decent clients for xdmcp
[02:48] <Abaddon> Anyone, anyone
[02:48] <h1st0> djohngo: sudo apt-get pine  or sudo apt-get links
[02:48] <s2a> dystopianray: can u show me wat exactly to download?
[02:49] <dystopianray> s2a: no, dpkg should tell you what you need to get
[02:49] <s2a> dystopianray: wats that
[02:49] <h1st0> djohngo: sry sudo apt-get install pine or sudo apt-get install links
[02:49] <djohngo> h1st0: already tried that.  It said that it couldn't find the package.
[02:49] <s2a> dystopianray: sry for being stupid
[02:49] <dystopianray> s2a: what program you're using to install the deb should tell you what dependancies you need
[02:49] <h1st0> djohngo: do you have an internet connection?
[02:50] <djohngo> Yes.
[02:50] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U, so that's why I'm trying to have separate X servers, or at least a separate VT on the secondary monitor/card
[02:50] <h1st0> djohngo: well they are there.  Also w3m should be present on a default ubuntu
[02:50] <JamoSmith> usser: windows
[02:50] <s2a> dystopianray: i need kdelibs4c2a
[02:50] <h1st0> !info pine | djohngo
[02:50] <ubotu> djohngo: Package pine does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:50] <usser> JamoSmith: weee found it here it is that should do it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122402
[02:50] <djohngo> I'm running the 6.06 cd.
[02:50] <dystopianray> s2a: get the deb for it
[02:50] <s2a> dystopianray: i found it on page
[02:50] <h1st0> !info links dapper |dj
[02:50] <xcst> ei there i need help
[02:50] <ubotu> dj: links: Character mode WWW browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99+1.00pre12-1 (dapper), package size 375 kB, installed size 936 kB
[02:51] <h1st0> djohngo: ^^^^^^^
[02:51] <Sarah> hey guys
[02:51] <h1st0> djohngo: its there  pine on the other hand?  you may have to apt-cache search pine   to see if the packagename is different
[02:51] <h1st0> hey girls
[02:51] <Sarah> this guy posted this:
[02:51] <Sarah> For now, this worked for me:
[02:51] <Sarah> Download the nVidia drivers from here: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-9755.html
[02:51] <Sarah> Extract the drivers with the -x switch: sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run -x
[02:51] <Sarah> Copy the module somewhere (hopefully to be removed when they start including it in the package). I used my home directory: cp NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libnvidia-wfb.so.1.0.9755 ~/
[02:52] <Sarah> Now create a link to it from /usr/lib/xorg/modules/: sudo ln /home/aaroncampbell/libnvidia-wfb.so.1.0.9755 /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libwfb.so
[02:52] <Sarah> That should do it. I also chown'd it to root:root, and chmod'd it to match all the other stuff in that directory.
[02:52] <Sarah> Hope this helps someone. Once I did that, everything started to work fine. My dual screens, even Beryl runs smoothly (well, as smoothly as Beryl can run).
[02:52] <Sarah> sorry for flod
[02:52] <JamoSmith> usser: thanks, I'll take a look
[02:52] <h1st0> !paste > Sarah
[02:52] <s2a> dystopianray: 9.5 mb's on dial-up :'(....will this make my hardmodem be detected cuz gnome-ppp doesn't recognize it at all but on desktop pc on live cd, it does get recognized but it doesnt conect fully
[02:52] <Jordan_U_> DARKGuy, There is no standard way that I can think of that would let you move your mouse across X servers running on two cards and be able to move the mouse from one to the other ( No way at all to move windows ), Is that why you tried synergy?
[02:52] <xcst> my installation gets aborted
[02:52] <xcst> http://pastebin.com/m5aa08c77
[02:52] <dystopianray> s2a: I have no idea
[02:52] <Sarah> but i got to the last step and it says "file not found"
[02:52] <Sarah> what am i doing wrong
[02:52] <h1st0> Sarah: I dunno if I would create the link like he did I would cp the file there.
[02:52] <astro76> djohngo, pine is not included because it is non-free software
[02:52] <Sarah> i tried
[02:52] <s2a> dystopianray: how would i go about applying a dependency?
[02:52] <Sarah> nothing showed up with i did that command
[02:52] <s2a> dystopianray: just double click on a file and install it?
[02:53] <dystopianray> s2a: just install the deb
[02:53] <Meroigo> Anyone here know anything about the GBA emulator Visual Boy Advance and how you can open vbm files for roms? vbm = visual boy movie....
[02:53] <Meroigo> it's a longshot >_>
[02:53] <h1st0> Sarah: sudo cp /home/sarah/libnvidia-wfb.so.1.0blah /usr/lib/xorg/modules
[02:53] <djohngo> astro76: my heart isn't set on pine, I just want a console email client. Evo runs too slow.
[02:53] <Sarah> yea, lol i just saw that
[02:53] <h1st0> Sarah: then make the link from /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libnvidia-blah to /usr/lib/xor/modules/libwfb.so
[02:53] <zetheroo> is there a way to see how much data you have downloaded from your network connection since you have been online?
[02:54] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U_, yes, there's a way, but it didn't work correctly in the setups I tried, it's called multiseat systems, only that I'm using only one keyboard and one mouse to control both (or more (!))... I know I can't move windows between them, nor I care about that :P and yes, that's why I tried synergy and x2x
[02:54] <dystopianray> zetheroo: ifconfig will tell you
[02:54] <h1st0> Sarah: the version may be different on yoru file also try using tab completeion  typing the first part of the filename and hitting tab
[02:54] <Sarah> k
[02:54] <dystopianray> zetheroo: but it overflows at 4GB on 32-bit systems
[02:54] <zetheroo> dystopianray  : is there a GUI solution?
[02:54] <dystopianray> zetheroo: no idea
[02:54] <astro76> djohngo, try mutt
[02:54] <zetheroo> dystopianray  : overflows?
[02:54] <TheDukeNY> Is there some software that can handle multiple audio programs and allow them to play music simtaneously
[02:54] <dystopianray> zetheroo: goes back to 0 after 4GB
[02:55] <Sarah> cp: cannot stat `/home/sarah/libnvidia-wfb.so.1.0blah': No such file or directory
[02:55] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U_, for what I could understand, I think that with Synergy I was trying to make a Synergy server and connect to it (same machine xD) so I could control both Xs
[02:55] <zetheroo> dystopianray  : oh.... thats no good .... thanks though
[02:55] <Sarah> my account is sarah and all
[02:55] <h1st0> Sarah: the name isn't blah
[02:55] <Jordan_U_> TheDukeNY, As long as the programs use ALSA ( almost all do now ) they should have no problem
[02:55] <Sarah> oh lol
[02:55] <h1st0> Sarah: type in sudo cp /home/what ever your username is/libnvi(tab>  hit the tab k to autocomplete
[02:55] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U_, All I want is to use the secondary monitor to display info for me, without having to alt+tab (browse some page repeatedly, take a look at some source code, see some info on processes... stuff like that)
[02:56] <h1st0> Sarah: also dpeends on where you extracted  it.
[02:56] <bluebanana> what's the command to "enqueue" media files into totem or some other media player? "totem -e %s" doesn't seem to work.
[02:56] <Jordan_U_> DARKGuy, So what you are now trying to do is start screen on a tty on the other GPU and then screen -X into it?
[02:57] <TheDukeNY> Jordan_U_ does Rythmebox use ALSA, im trying to listen to a Flash on a web page and lhave Rythme play in the background
[02:57] <blockcipher> Hey all.  I just did a fresh install of Feisty...I needed a clean machine :)   For the life of me I cannot get viewing mov and wmv files to view in Firefox propelry....Any input?  Ive tried the info at ubuntuguide also tried easyubuntu...
[02:57] <TheDukeNY> Jordan_U_ is my problem with my browser?
[02:58] <Jordan_U_> TheDukeNY, What version of Ubuntu are you using, only flash 7 uses OSS instead of ALSA, you probably just need to get flash 9 if you are using Dapper
[02:58] <s2a> if my 9 pin port is defective, can i use another one that is not 9 pin with adapter and get it to work?
[02:58] <s2a> dystopianray: if my 9 pin port is defective, can i use another one that is not 9 pin with adapter and get it to work?
[02:58] <TheDukeNY> Jordan_U_ 7.04
[02:58] <dystopianray> s2a: i have no idea
[02:58] <gokhan_> when i want to install something like apache the installer wants me to put Ubuntu 7.04 _Feisty Fawn_ - Release i386 (20070415) Cd but do i always have to keep this cd whenever i go? or is there a way to fix it?
[02:59] <Jordan_U_> blockcipher, Right click play in movie player ( totem ) then totem will grab the codecs and it should play in your browser fine after that
[02:59] <AirBender> blockcipher, just try to play them on Totem, and the system will show you a list ot plugins to install (automatically) or you can also install the VLC-player
[02:59] <Mykelyk> n0cturnal|gutsy, it's works!!!
[02:59] <blockcipher> Jordan_U, I have already done that as well :(
[02:59] <astro76> s2a, you mean the serial port? if you have usb you can get a usb->serial adapter
[02:59] <regeya> meept.
[02:59] <Jordan_U_> TheDukeNY, How did you install flash?
[02:59] <dystopianray> you need to remove the cd from your apt sources
[02:59] <regeya> gokhan_: remove the CD line from /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:59] <blockcipher> AirBender,  I also installed VLC...its plays the audio but no video
[02:59] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U_, something like that (I don't know what -X means for screen though, I've never used it that much... all I know is that it will allow me to control the secondary monitor/GPU's VT through any terminal window on my main X display)
[02:59] <s2a> astro76: it will still work on USB?!?!
[02:59] <blockcipher> Its odd.
[02:59] <TheDukeNY> Jordan_U_ from the add/remove programs
[02:59] <Sarah> what does this mena "and chmod'd it to match all the other stuff in that directory."
[03:00] <astro76> s2a, with a usb->serial converter
[03:00] <Jordan_U_> blockcipher, Does it play in totem?
[03:00] <dystopianray> Sarah: whya re you installing the 9755 driver from nvidia.com? it is in the repos
[03:00] <AirBender> Sarah, to change the file permissions to the same setup like the other files in the same directory
[03:00] <Jordan_U_> blockcipher, If so are you using the totem firefox plugin?
[03:00] <regeya> the stupid compiz cube is highly addictive, btw.
[03:00] <blockcipher> Jordan_U, Yes I have that loaded as well
[03:00] <gokhan_> regeya, ok thanks it works
[03:01] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U_, I would LOVE to have it using X too, but I don't know how to move the mouse/input to/from the secondary display, without making it dissapear from the oppossing one >.<
[03:01] <Jordan_U_> blockcipher, Does the movie play in totem?
[03:01] <blockcipher> Trying right now.
[03:01] <regeya> gokhan_: I hsould have pointed out you really need to run 'apt-get update' or update your sources in whatever manager you use
[03:01] <DARKGuy> regeya, damn yeah xD
[03:01] <s2a> astro76: ya, i got that...im just excited bcuz usb is my favourite connection lol
[03:01] <Sarah> ok
[03:01] <astro76> s2a, :) http://www.amazon.com/Cables-Go-Serial-Adapter-Rs-232/dp/B000067RVJ/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-0787375-7051102?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1191718860&sr=8-1
[03:01] <Sarah> well i did all that now how to i install it?
[03:01] <s2a> astro76: well, the true point is bcuz i no it works for sure
[03:01] <astro76> s2a, I use that one in Linux including Feisty
[03:01] <regeya> DARKGuy: the scary thing is that I actually find the silly effects USEFUL...too scary.  figured I'd try it out and disable the 'pointless eye candy'.  not so!
[03:02] <joshin247> i cant get my tablet working!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:02] <Jordan_U_> DARKGuy, This is just stupid, but it will almost definitely work... use vnc ;-)
[03:02] <gokhan_> regeya, i reloaded the synaptic so it does the same thing as apt-get update command right?
[03:02] <joshin247> i've used the fpit drivers and tried everything
[03:02] <Sarah> how do i shutdown x server to install the nvidia drivers
[03:02] <regeya> gokhan_: iirc yeah
[03:02] <Sarah> ?
[03:02] <DARKGuy> regeya, haha XD the thing about CF is that it's pretty AND useful ;) ... be careful, you might miss those when working in Windows at work or something =P
[03:02] <dystopianray> Sarah: why aren't you installing them from the repos?
[03:02] <Dr_willis> Sarah,  alt-ctrl-backspace kills off X and restarts it.. stop the gdm or kdm service to stop it totally
[03:02] <Jordan_U_> Sarah, Why aren't you using the restricted driver manager?
[03:03] <Sarah> because it doesnt work
[03:03] <Dr_willis> Sarah,  and whats your video card?
[03:03] <regeya> DARKGuy: I want the cube in OSX
[03:03] <dystopianray> Sarah: you have to install nvidia-glx-new
[03:03] <AirBender> Sarah, from the console type: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[03:03] <n0cturnal|gutsy> Sarah, as root: /etc/init.d/gdm stop, then killall Xorg
[03:03] <Sarah> how?
[03:03] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U_, ... man, you're great XD it's silly and yeah... oO not really what I was looking for, but it could work indeed :D... everything for having CF! :D
[03:03] <Jordan_U_> Sarah, Then "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[03:03] <Sarah> ok
[03:03] <Sarah> wait
[03:03] <blockcipher> Jordan_U_, no video just audio
[03:03] <DARKGuy> regeya, lol :p OSX can't beat -or have- it :p
[03:03] <Anthology2> hi, ive just finished installing gutsy and after one restart, my window borders wont show up. like the title bar etc. i cant figure out why. any ideas?
[03:03] <Sarah> ive got an 8800gts and what this about installing the nvidia glx new?
[03:03] <n0cturnal|gutsy> Sarah, then again /etc/init.d/gdm stop, killing Xorg will restart gdm
[03:04] <s2a> astro76: would the source by circuit city have that kind of thing?
[03:04] <dystopianray> Sarah: install nvidia-glx-new and change your xorg.conf driver from 'nv' to 'nvidia'
[03:04] <Sarah> how?
[03:04] <AirBender> blickcipher, have you tried with another movie file?
[03:04] <swarm> anyone here have experience setting up their own nameservers using ISPconfig/godaddy ?
[03:04] <dystopianray> Sarah: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[03:04] <AirBender> blockcipher i mean
[03:04] <Jordan_U_> blockcipher, Ok, so you just need the right codec, probably w33codecs since it can't be installed by default
[03:05] <blockcipher> I have loaded w32codecs..ive also removed it and re-installed it
[03:05] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U_, However, do you know how do I set it up to load automatically on that X, and that if I close the window it doesn't kill or disconnect the VNC session so I can control it back again ?
[03:05] <trials> there a probleem with the 64 bit version it will not laod the GHUI for the install on my new AMD 64 system 32 bit one works fine
[03:05] <TheDukeNY> Jordan_U_ Im going to try to install it from the .tar.gz
[03:05] <Jordan_U_> TheDukeNY, Why?
[03:06] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U_, also, by creating that X and if I move my mouse or type, as soon as I start the X it grabs my input and the mouse movement gets mirrored in both displays... how do you think I could work that out?
[03:06] <NuggerNits> DCC SEND 0123456789123456
[03:06] <joshin247> this forum is always busy
[03:06] <blockcipher> AirBender, ill find anohter file
[03:06] <joshin247> or channel sorry
[03:06] <Jordan_U_> !ops
[03:06] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[03:06] <DARKGuy> holy cow.
[03:06] <pierre_> everyone know to reset sound card afert end hibernate
[03:06] <joshin247> but does anyone know how to get a gateway tablet pc to work under ubuntu?
[03:06] <Sarah> ok
[03:06] <AirBender> ok
[03:07] <twoshadetod> any messenger that can send files and put pictures in convo's with aim?
[03:07] <TheDukeNY> Jordan_U_ Maybe it has to do with my external speakers?
[03:07] <DARKGuy> LjL, you missed mrcheeks? :p
[03:07] <LjL> no, i banned him
[03:07] <s2a> how would i no if my port is disfunctional, anyone?
[03:07] <blockcipher> AirBender, ya no go..does the same thing..
[03:07] <DARKGuy> oh o.o
[03:07] <Jordan_U_> DARKGuy, Don't install from tar.gz yet, why do you think you need to?
[03:07] <TheDukeNY> Jordan_U_ the flash stuff only plays through the internal sound card and not my external
[03:08] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U_, that was for TheDukeNY, no? xD
[03:08] <Jordan_U_> !sound | TheDukeNY
[03:08] <ubotu> TheDukeNY: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:08] <joshin247> but does anyone know how to get a gateway tablet pc to work under ubuntu?
[03:08] <Sergo> hello
[03:08] <TheDukeNY> Jordan_U_ I think im asking the wrong question
[03:08] <Sergo> anyone know, it is possible to stream wma 11 plugins with firefox?
[03:08] <blockcipher> Jordan_U_, AirBender : tried another file as well didnt work...
[03:08] <pierre_> everyone know to reset sound card afert end hibernate
[03:08] <AirBender> blockcipher, that's strange... be sure that the other file doesn't have the same encoding(if the problem is about a strange plugin...)
[03:09] <rico_> hi guys. I have no VT. I do ctrl+alt+f1 and I get a blinking cursor. I have /dev/tty1. any clue to why this happens?
[03:09] <joshin247> does anyone know how to get a gateway tablet pc to work under ubuntu?
[03:09] <blockcipher> AirBender, how do i check that?
[03:09] <yngone> was xfsdump vulnerability  patched for 7.04
[03:09] <yngone> ?
[03:09] <TheDukeNY> Jordan_U_ Could having two sound cards cause problems between two audio programs trying to play two different or two of the same sound files at the same time?
[03:09] <AirBender> blockcipher,check the movie properties...
[03:09] <TheDukeNY> Jordan_U_ I think thats the question I should have been asking
[03:09] <AirBender> but it's strange anyway
[03:09] <trials> blockcipher: you use dalnet at all?
[03:10] <yngone> was xfsdump vulnerability  patched for 7.04
[03:10] <blockcipher> Codec shows WMA Version 8
[03:10] <blockcipher> Both are.
[03:10] <Jordan_U_> blockcipher, install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll
[03:10] <HeXiLeD> hello guys
[03:10] <joshin247>  does anyone know how to get a gateway tablet pc to work under ubuntu?
[03:10] <HeXiLeD> does ubuntu allow to run xchat in text mode?
[03:10] <blockcipher> gstreamer0.10-pitfdll is already the newest version.
[03:10] <blockcipher> it says
[03:11] <HeXiLeD> gentoo does it by doing xchat-text
[03:11] <robsonbstec> ola tem algum brasileiro ai?
[03:11] <DARKGuy> !br | robsonbstec
[03:11] <ubotu> robsonbstec: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[03:11] <AirBender> blockcipher, so you must find the plugin that decodes this codec
[03:11] <HeXiLeD> robsonbstec: nop
[03:11] <HeXiLeD> robsonbstec: why ?
[03:11] <Jordan_U_> blockcipher, Then install w32codecs from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[03:12] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U_, any idea? need me to repeat in case you couldn't read xD? sorry :$
[03:12] <blockcipher> Jordan_U_, i already did :(  I know...what a pain right? lol
[03:12] <Jordan_U_> blockcipher, You already have pitfdll installed also?
[03:12] <blockcipher> Indeed :(
[03:13] <DPic> Can somebody help me get my wireless working?
[03:13] <DPic> For some reasons i can't pick up any wireless networks
[03:13] <Jordan_U_> blockcipher, Can you give a link to a movie that won't play ( So I can see If it plays for me ) ?
[03:13] <robsonbstec> estou aqui  perdido queria tc com algem
[03:13] <DPic> I've been trying to figure this out for weeks
[03:13] <AirBender> DIic, do you know wich wireless chipset you have?
[03:13] <AirBender> DPic
[03:14] <Jordan_U_> DARKGuy, Too many people :), so now you just need to know how to get vnc to start automatically, correct?
[03:14] <HeXiLeD> robsonbstec: seu cabeca dura. vai ao #ubuntu-pt ou #ubuntu-br
[03:14] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U_, hehe :) yeah, and to avoid my input being grabbed when I start that secondary X :P
[03:14] <blockcipher> Jordan_U_, I have been using this as a test URL:  http://www.crooksandliars.com/Media/Download/22121/1/Countdown-GOP-Funds.wmv
[03:14] <robsonbstec> mais como?
[03:14] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> hey folks
[03:14] <HeXiLeD>  /join #ubuntu-pt
[03:14] <djohngo> astro76:  I love mutt, but  setting up postfix is pretty tricky. Any hints on a good tutorial?
[03:15] <HeXiLeD>  /join #ubuntu-br
[03:15] <robsonbstec> instalei  o ubuntu agora
[03:15] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U_, right now, I don't have the secondary monitor or card installed, but if you really need me to tell me - or give me instructions here and I'll try then tell you later :P
[03:15] <robsonbstec> HeXied
[03:15] <Jordan_U_> blockcipher, Plays for me :s
[03:16] <blockcipher> :(
[03:16] <blockcipher> Im mean thats good for you lol
[03:16] <HeXiLeD> ok guys ... getting back o my question... do i have to compile xchat from source o be able to run it in text ( no gui) mode ?
[03:16] <stdin> HeXiLeD: what's wrong with irssi ;)
[03:16] <blockcipher> This is a fresh install as well, so its odd..i didnt have this problem before I wiped it
[03:17] <AirBender> blockcipher, here it's working too
[03:17] <HeXiLeD> noting. stdin but its not for me. i use irssi.
[03:17] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> hey all.. small question,  havin issues with my wireless on my dell running 6.10... and thoughts where to begin??
[03:17] <HeXiLeD> in fact using it here
[03:17] <Jessehk> The default opera icon looks incredibly bad. It's blurry and rough looking. Does anyone have an aesthetic fix?
[03:17] <TQuid> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v, you can always try configuring it the evil way with iwconfig and all that. Do you have any authentication?
[03:17] <AirBender> blockcipher, have you uupdated your system after the fresh install?
[03:17] <blockcipher> Yes, I updated right when I logged in the first time
[03:17] <DPic> AirBender, Atheros AR5215
[03:18] <TQuid> Argh, bloody ar5215. I ended up going to gutsy to get it to work.
[03:18] <AirBender> ok
[03:18] <DPic> I am in Gutsy
[03:18] <yngone> If im updating from 6.10 to 7.01 should i keep or replace /etc/login
[03:18] <TQuid> Oh.
[03:18] <yngone> 7/04
[03:18] <yngone> 7.04*
[03:19] <AirBender> DPic, I think I've read that there are some issues with this chipset, but not sure, let me see
[03:19] <Roge> ubuntu ubuntu
[03:19] <DPic> I had it working in Feisty then i reinstalled feisty and couldn't get it working again. Now i'm in gutsy and can't get it to work. My friend has the same one and it's worked for him since he got ubuntu
[03:19] <DPic> I think he's running gutsy now
[03:20] <TQuid> My ar2515 Just Works for me in gutsy and gnome. I didn't upgrade though, I installed from scratch.
[03:20] <acoustyk> how do I get my windows NTFS partition to show up in ubuntu?
[03:20] <gokhan_> i have just installed apache and when i type http://localhost/ the browser shows the dir of /var/www/ but there is also a apache2-default folder under /var/www/ so how can i fix it?
[03:20] <blockcipher> even VLC cant play the file.....
[03:20] <acoustyk> it used to show up on my desktop but it stopped for some reason
[03:21] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> Tqud: if i have to ask what authentication is... i will say no i don't unless you can explain what you mean by that
[03:21] <Jordan_U_> DARKGuy, I guess you could try making a second xorg.conf that does not have any input device
[03:21] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U_, wouldn't that cause X to fail? oO
[03:22] <Jordan_U_> !ntfs-3g | acoustyk
[03:22] <ubotu> acoustyk: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[03:22] <gonzalez_> ola
[03:22] <gorii> is there a channel for beta ubuntu questions?
[03:22] <gonzalez_> alguem ai do RJ BR
[03:22] <gonzalez_> ?
[03:22] <TQuid> gorii, #ubuntu+1
[03:22] <DARKGuy> gorii, @ubuntu+1
[03:22] <DARKGuy> that one :p
[03:22] <gorii> thank you
[03:22] <TQuid> Jinx. :)
[03:22] <DPic> whoops AR5212 on 5215
[03:23] <DPic> not*
[03:23] <DARKGuy> !br | gonzalez
[03:23] <ubotu> gonzalez: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[03:23] <Jordan_U_> DARKGuy, Why would it, I've done it before ( on an XO ;)
[03:23] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U_, XO? :P great then! I'll put my hands on work then ;)!
[03:24] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U_, can you tell me then, how to set up VNC the way I need it? (to start with that X session and to be resumable, so if I close the client on my main display I can resume it later)
[03:24] <abatshy> hey
[03:24] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> i assume thats a whole different topic.. so whats the easiest way  to give me wireless on my dell?
[03:24] <acoustyk> so does anyone know how I can get my linux partition to read my windows partition?  i'm trying to access my documents folder and all that
[03:25] <TQuid> Well, the cheap way is mount -t vfat /mount/point /dev/blah
[03:25] <crimsun> acoustyk: use ntfs-3g
[03:25] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U_, also, it seems I must use "sudo" to run X (thus why I messed my system up a LOT by chmodding almost everything XD) so do you know how can I run it with my default user (or any other!) ?
[03:25] <gokhan_> i have just installed apache and when i type http://localhost/ the browser shows the dir of /var/www/ but there is also a apache2-default folder under /var/www/ so how can i fix it?
[03:25] <acoustyk> will it show up on boot?
[03:26] <acoustyk> it used to load every time I booted
[03:26] <AirBender> DPic, hahaha that's different
[03:26] <crimsun> acoustyk: meaning it no longer is accessible by default on login?
[03:26] <AirBender> I also have the AR5212
[03:26] <acoustyk> yes
[03:27] <blockcipher> I guess my video codecs are jacked...i cant do anything here...bummer deal
[03:27] <acoustyk> it used to be on my desktop every time
[03:27] <Jordan_U_> DARKGuy, I don't know about the resumeable part but you should be able to start it with a custom startx script, or with a session startup command that checks to see that it is on display :1 and if so starts vnc ( otherwise vnc would also start on your main monitor too )
[03:27] <dashi> Hello!
[03:27] <blockcipher> i tried a couple more things as well
[03:27] <DPic> AirBender, what do you mean then?
[03:27] <Jordan_U_> DARKGuy, You should not have to start X with sudo, I assume you unchmodded those things?
[03:27] <E-mu> anyone running Ubuntu on an HP m9040n machine? Its a G33 express chipset on an ASus board. Its not finding neither the Built in Ethernet Lan nor the Built in Wireless. LSPCI does not list it. ./dmidecode shows and ethernet device but i don't see a wireless
[03:27] <AirBender> DPic, I mean that AR5212 is working very well for me, and must be so with you ;)
[03:28] <AirBender> DPic, tell me what's the issue?
[03:28] <E-mu> is something wrong with that Desktop?
[03:28] <E-mu> or is the chipset to new for Ubuntu?
[03:28] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U_, nah, I preferred to reinstall anyways :p so I'm with an "untouched" system, to say it that way :P
[03:28] <crimsun> acoustyk: ok, so let's look at a couple system files.  First, what does `grep ntfs /etc/fstab` in a Terminal give you?
[03:28] <overlord> how do i uninstall a program that isn't installed by the "apt-get" command?
[03:28] <Jordan_U_> E-mu, Does it show up in lshal or lshw ?
[03:28] <E-mu> I did not run those commands
[03:28] <E-mu> lshal nor lshw
[03:29] <E-mu> doing now
[03:29] <amar> how to sonix sn9c120 install
[03:29] <Jordan_U_> DARKGuy, What error do you get when you try to start X as your user?
[03:29] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U_, and, alright I'll take that in account :) what would I use to run VNC on that display then?
[03:29] <AirBender> DPic, can you scan for networks?
[03:29] <DPic> well it was working fine in feisty then i reinstalled feisty at some point and it stopped working. i reinstalled feisty multiple times for other issues i was having. Now i have installed gutsy (not through the upgrade) and it still doesn't work. My wireless won't pick up any networks
[03:29] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U_, IIRC, it was something with not being able to open or get or set the IO permissions
[03:29] <outlaw> wireless
[03:29] <Jordan_U_> overlord, Depends on how you installed it ( which is why you should try to stick to apt as much as possible )
[03:29] <DARKGuy> xf86ioctr or something
[03:29] <outlaw> is a pain in the ass
[03:29] <outlaw> to install
[03:29] <AirBender> DPic, ok
[03:29] <Jordan_U_> overlord, If you installed it from source then "make uninstall"
[03:29] <amar> help about driver for sn9c120 usb webcam
[03:30] <Jordan_U_> overlord, From the directory the source is in
[03:30] <AirBender> DPic, what do you see if you tipe iwconfig in the temrinal?
[03:30] <overlord> Jordan_U_: it was a .deb file, not a source..
[03:30] <AirBender> type
[03:30] <blockcipher> Jordan_U_,  which one of these should I try to reinstall?   http://packages.medibuntu.org/pool/non-free/w/w32codecs/
[03:30] <Jordan_U_> overlord, Oh, then you can remove it with apt :)
[03:30] <Jordan_U_> overlord, .debs are great :)
[03:30] <dashi> 
[03:30] <overlord> Jordan_U_: hmm..thanks..
[03:30] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U_, actually, let me install the secondary card and plug in the 2nd monitor, guess it's too busy for you now :)
[03:31] <DPic> AirBender, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39812/
[03:31] <yngone> sudo ptf-get
[03:31] <yngone> ?
[03:31] <dashi> 
[03:31] <yngone> whats the cmd again
[03:31] <DARKGuy> !cn | dashi
[03:31] <ubotu> dashi: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[03:31] <dashi> 
[03:31] <yngone> whats the command for packages
[03:31] <yngone> pkg-get
[03:31] <DARKGuy> yngone, apt-get
[03:31] <Jordan_U_> DARKGuy, But I am only still here because your problem is interesting :), that's mainly why I like tech support, the interesting problems
[03:31] <Jordan_U_> :)
[03:31] <freeflying_> dashi plz join #ubuntu-cn for chinese support
[03:31] <yngone> ty
[03:31] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U_, hehe, you too? XD I give tech support too :P
[03:32] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U_, I love to make crazy things on my system, this being one of those :P
[03:32] <Iceshadow> is the next release of Ubuntu in the near future? just wondering, not so much asking questions about it in particular.
[03:32] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U_, so yeah, lemme connect everything and I'll be back in about 5 minutes =)
[03:32] <Jordan_U_> blockcipher, Just add the mediubuntu repository and (re)install it with apt
[03:32] <AirBender> DPic, ok, and are you sure you have the driver up with ifconfig ?
[03:33] <foxray> anyone kknow of an gui editor with syntax highlighting for perl?
[03:33] <blockcipher> Jordan_U_, k ill try it .. im reaching now cause I have no idea what the problem is lol
[03:33] <Jordan_U_> foxray, gedit
[03:33] <foxray> Jordan_U_: gedit has syntax highlighting?
[03:33] <Jordan_U_> foxray, Yup :)
[03:33] <AirBender> foxray, yes it has
[03:33] <Jordan_U_> foxray, Just need to turn it on
[03:33] <DPic> AirBender, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39813/ and you can follow my valliant efforts at https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/14316
[03:34] <DWMSA> ..
[03:34] <Jordan_U_> foxray, Shows line numbers too :)
[03:34] <DPic> AirBender, and https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/13708
[03:34] <foxray> oh sweet
[03:34] <foxray> thanks
[03:34] <AirBender> ok
[03:34] <xcst> is there a way to make the panels transparent?
[03:34] <Jordan_U_> xcst, Right click -> Properties
[03:34] <gedman> hola
[03:35] <gedman> helo
[03:35] <gedman> nobdy??
[03:35] <TheDukeNY> 'make' is used to compile source code right?
[03:35] <gedman> sapnish?????
[03:35] <Jordan_U_> TheDukeNY, Why are you compiling from source?
[03:35] <gedman> spanish??
[03:35] <Jordan_U_> !sp | gedman
[03:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:35] <Jordan_U_> !spanish | gedman
[03:35] <ubotu> gedman: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:35] <TheDukeNY> Jordon_U_ im trying to install grubconf
[03:36] <HealthyElija2> anyone here use Linux MCE
[03:36] <xcst> where can i download gnome themes?
[03:36] <acoustyk> how does one open an x-executable file?
[03:36] <DPic> xcst, you could have gone to google for that!
[03:37] <acoustyk> extracted from a tar.bz
[03:37] <Jordan_U_> !source | TheDukeNY
[03:37] <ubotu> TheDukeNY: You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[03:37] <DPic> xcst, http://gnomelook.org/
[03:37] <xcst> sori
[03:37] <xcst> ghaha
[03:37] <TheDukeNY> for some reason the repositiories don't have the latest version
[03:37] <Jordan_U_> acoustyk, Are you sure that the program is not available as a .deb or through synaptic / apt ?
[03:38] <acoustyk> yea its not
[03:38] <acoustyk> i checked
[03:38] <Jordan_U_> TheDukeNY, The repos are always going to be a few months behind
[03:38] <Jordan_U_> acoustyk, What is it?
[03:38] <Jordan_U_> acoustyk, chmod +x to be able to run it BTW
[03:38] <DPic> why isn't kiba-dock not in the repository?
[03:39] <acoustyk> an ipod linux installer
[03:39] <Jordan_U_> DPic, It's not stable
[03:39] <DPic> Jordan_U_, really? oh okay thanks then. Any idea on when it will be?
[03:40] <Jordan_U_> DPic, No idea
[03:42] <AirBender> DPic, it's quite strange
[03:42] <alecwh> Hello! I recently switched my DNS servers on ubuntu to "opendns" @ opendns.com. It's really great, but I hate the stupid advertisements when it can't resolve my domain. Are there any other options?
[03:42] <bluebanana> hi, i'm using gtpod to sync music to my iPod. I've been advised to install "gtkpod-aac", but when i tried doing so, terminal says that "gtkpod" will be removed. do i not need "gtkpod" package?
[03:42] <E-mu> jordan_U_ I found two udi= net.interface=wmaster0 and net.interface=wlan0
[03:42] <faksdfasdfas> FONT SIZE 23
[03:42] <AirBender> DPic, I think, the most easy way to solve this strange problem is taking drastic measures...
[03:42] <DPic> reinstall again?
[03:42] <bluebanana> n
[03:42] <AirBender> yeap
[03:42] <E-mu> jordan_U_ lshw no such file etc
[03:42] <AirBender> DPic, have you tried?
[03:43] <crimsun> bluebanana: gtkpod-aac contains all of the functionality of gtkpod.
[03:43] <E-mu> is that lshw a Ubuntu only command?
[03:43] <DPic> yeah
[03:43] <AirBender> DPic, but Im talking about the drivers
[03:43] <dashi> what the meaning of sudo poff dsl-provider?
[03:43] <AirBender> lol
[03:43] <DPic> Oh, well how do i do that?
[03:43] <AirBender> ok
[03:43] <fiXXXerMet> How can I cycle through desktops in gnome (like a hot key)?
[03:43] <bluebanana> crimsun, ok. great! so why would anyone use gtkpod if gtkpod-aac gtkpod + more
[03:43] <E-mu> jordan_U_ so it shows up in lshal why not in lspci ??
[03:43] <DPic> Just reinstall madwifi-tools ?
[03:43] <bluebanana> typo, crimsun ... if gtkpod-aac = gtkpod + more stuff... ?
[03:43] <crimsun> bluebanana: because gtkpod-aac contains non-Free components that we don't enable by defaulh.
[03:43] <dashi>  the meaning of sudo poff dsl-provider?    Help
[03:44] <crimsun> default ^
[03:44] <Jordan_U_> E-mu, No idea
[03:44] <bluebanana> crimsun, i see. u work for ubuntu? (u said "we")
[03:44] <AirBender> DPic, well, the Driver for the Atheros Chipset is called Madwifi project (now they're working in a completely new driver)
[03:44] <AirBender> so you must go to http://madwifi.org
[03:44] <AirBender> and get the latest version
[03:44] <crimsun> bluebanana: I was formerly on the community development team.
[03:44] <DPic> the one in the repos doesn't work?
[03:44] <BaD_CrC> does the 'dd' command get the flags of a cd telling it's bootable? like if i run this command: 'dd if=dev/scd0 of=~/hp-recovery-cd.iso' will the iso be bootable if i burn it to a new cd?
[03:45] <E-mu> jordan_U_ ls lshw a Ubuntu only command or a general command to all flavors of linux?
[03:45] <bluebanana> crimsun, i see. i've installed gtkpod-aac, but now i get this error:  while loading shared libraries: libgpod.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:45] <HHP2K> Hello everyone! My ubuntu fiesty machine has gone down, and I need it back up fast, can someone help me? I've tried to reconfigure xorg but it's a no-go, it's telling me my device isn't detected. I have a 64 MB Asus-Nvidia card installed, and I think the problem is that the reconfigure for xserver-xorg is assigning xorg to the wrong bus address. It's wanting to assign the video device to PCI:1:7:0, and last time I checked that wasn't w
[03:45] <Jordan_U> E-mu, All flavors that have HAL installed
[03:45] <AirBender> DPic, I've worked for several years with the madwifi, and I didn't know that there was a package called madwifi-tools lols
[03:46] <E-mu> hm because lshal worked but lshw did not
[03:46] <Jumbalia> Where do I get rtl8787 drivers
[03:46] <DPic> it's what i found searching for madwifi in the synaptic package manager
[03:46] <Jordan_U> E-mu, Which is going to be all desktop distros
[03:47] <AirBender> yeah
[03:47] <AirBender> DPic, but I don't have is
[03:47] <crimsun> bluebanana: make sure libgpod1 is installed
[03:47] <AirBender> it
[03:47] <Jordan_U> DPic, If Restricted manager cannot configure the card then you probably need to grab a newer version of madwifi
[03:47] <AirBender> and the chipset works very well, because the driver itself comes as a kernel module
[03:47] <bluebanana> crimsun, it's not in ubuntu's repository, is it?
[03:47] <gokhan_> i have just installed apache and when i type http://localhost/ the browser shows the dir of /var/www/ but there is also a apache2-default folder under /var/www/ so how can i fix it?
[03:47] <E-mu> I have this weird feeling this G33 epxress chipset is bad bad bad. hackintosh nor Fedora 8 test3 nor Ubunti see the built in Wireless nor the Lan
[03:47] <Jumbalia> Where do I get rtl8787 drivers
[03:48] <DPic> alright let me try this out
[03:48] <E-mu> only the audio and the rest of the devices are ok
[03:48] <AirBender> DPic, so you have to get the madwifi sources from http://madwifi.org
[03:49] <AirBender> jumbalia, do you mean rtl8187?
[03:49] <AirBender> USB wireless?
[03:50] <crimsun> bluebanana: it's in feisty.
[03:50] <Kay^> DCC LOL_UPGRADE_YOUR_ROUTER_LOL
[03:51] <bluebanana> crimsun, " sudo aptitude install libpgod1" nor  "sudo aptitude install libpgod.so.1" does not work.
[03:51] <Kay^> DCC SEND LOL_UPGRADE_YOUR_ROUTER_LOL
[03:51] <bluebanana> how can i know what version i have of a certain program, using terminal
[03:51] <crimsun> bluebanana: note your typo.
[03:51] <Jordan_U> !ops
[03:51] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[03:52] <Trueborn> Howdy
[03:52] <crimsun> bluebanana: dpkg -l $name_of_binary_package
[03:52] <bluebanana> crimsun, i see my typo, and i tried libgpod.so.1 and libgpod1, but neither works
[03:52] <HHP2K> Okay, does anyone know what the physical bus address of AGP is, if it's standard? And if it isn't, where can I find out what the card's physical address is from the terminal?
[03:53] <guru> can nfs be used to mount a directory locally from a remote source?
[03:53] <bluebanana> how do i search for a file in repo?
[03:53] <bluebanana> (what's the command line?)
[03:53] <Jordan_U> bluebanana, apt-file
[03:53] <DPic> AirBender okay i have no idea how to install this
[03:53] <Dr_willis> !apt
[03:53] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[03:53] <crimsun> HHP2K: normally PCI:*(0:2:0)
[03:54] <AirBender> DPic, ok, take it easy
[03:54] <DPic> lol
[03:54] <AirBender> haha
[03:54] <HHP2K> crimsun: the * standing for.. what?
[03:54] <crimsun> bluebanana: first, are you running 7.04 (feisty)?
[03:54] <Dr_willis> guru,  yes. thats normally how its used. lets a remote directory (an exported dir) be seen locally
[03:54] <Jordan_U> Dr_willis, That actually won't help him since apt-file is separate from apt
[03:55] <crimsun> HHP2K: it's a selection notation from /var/log/Xorg.0.log.
[03:55] <Dr_willis> Jordan_U,  i cheat and use that one web site  a lot of times.. heh..
[03:55] <bluebanana> crimsun, yes. i'm running 7.04
[03:55] <AirBender> DPic, first of all, extract the folder to a good place, might be /usr/local/scr
[03:55] <crimsun> HHP2K: just think BusID PCI:0:2:0
[03:55] <AirBender> DPic, /usr/local/src
[03:55] <DPic> it's in my home folder
[03:55] <Dr_willis> what is that apt searching web site... i forget the url
[03:55] <AirBender> As you want
[03:55] <DPic> AirBender, okay i'll move it there
[03:55] <roger_> Dr_willis, you can do aptitude search package at the command line
[03:56] <roger_> not sure of the site
[03:56] <Dr_willis> kubuntu has that apt:// feature also
[03:56] <AirBender> DPic, there's no problem with that, but i suggest you to make a hidden directory if you use the home/DPic/
[03:56] <DPic> ok
[03:56] <Jordan_U> Dr_willis, packages.ubuntu.com ?
[03:57] <crimsun> bluebanana: you seem to be missing an active feisty/main repo?
[03:57] <bluebanana> Jordan_U, thanks!
[03:57] <Dr_willis> Jordan_U,  that looks right. heh. its amazing what resources are out there  if you look.
[03:57] <bluebanana> crimsun, which one?
[03:57] <roger_> never tried that Dr_willis, im running CLI
[03:57] <bluebanana> i thought i had them all, crimsun
[03:57] <HHP2K> crimsun: xorg is still telling me no screens found. "No matching device section for instance (BusID PCI:3:0:0)".
[03:58] <HHP2K> crimsun: I thought I just set it to 0:2:0. :\
[03:58] <DPic> AirBender the PCI wireless adapter for my PC isn't working either lol
[03:58] <AirBender> DPic, is it an atheros too?
[03:58] <bluebanana> crimsun, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=libgpod.so.1&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=feisty&arch=i386 shows that the libgpod.so.1 file is in feisty repo. but why can't i install it from terminal? what's wrong with my sources list?
[03:59] <DPic> no, D-Link
[03:59] <crimsun> bluebanana: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty main
[03:59] <bluebanana> crimsun, can i add that via synaptic program?
[03:59] <DPic> actually i remember seeing atheros in something a command returned
[03:59] <AirBender> DPic, well, there are no D-Link chipsets, the big brands get the chipsets for their adapters from other companies like atheros, broadcom, ralink, intel, and so on
[04:00] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U, I'm back :p
[04:00] <DPic> oh so maybe it is atheros
[04:00] <jerbear> anyone know of a good batch file renamer (preferably for gnome)?
[04:00] <AirBender> yeapo
[04:00] <AirBender> yeap
[04:00] <Dialntone> no
[04:00] <AirBender> t least mine is, and is a D-Link DWL-G520
[04:00] <DARKGuy> :|
[04:00] <HHP2K> Jesus
[04:01] <Jordan_U> DARKGuy, So what error do you get when you try to start X as not root?
[04:01] <DPic> I think that might be the exact same PCI card as mine
[04:01] <AirBender> DPic, ok, are you ready for the building process?
[04:01] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U, okay, what command? startx, xinit or X ?
[04:01] <Amaranth_> Sorry guys
[04:01] <DPic> AirBender mine is the DWL-G520M
[04:01] <DPic> AirBender, yeah i'm ready
[04:01] <matthewpoer> Does anyone here use la/tex stuff for MLA-formatted papers/essays/reports? especially for school?
[04:01] <AirBender> ok
[04:01] <zoranoth> anyone familiar with git/svn/hg?
[04:01] <Jordan_U> DARKGuy, Any will do, just make sure you make it start on :1
[04:01] <crimsun> ls
[04:01] <crimsun> (sorry)
[04:01] <AirBender> so, from a temrinal go inside the driver source folder
[04:02] <bluebanana> where's my sources.list file?
[04:02] <Jordan_U> DARKGuy, xinit is probably best, no need to start gnome
[04:02] <yngone> whats cmd to get kernel info
[04:02] <Jordan_U> bluebanana, /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:02] <AirBender> DPic, do you know how to do that?
[04:03] <Amaranth> yngone: uname -
[04:03] <Amaranth> yngone: uname -a
[04:03] <DPic> ehh no
[04:03] <bluebanana> Jordan_U, thanis
[04:03] <AirBender> ok
[04:03] <yngone> no the distro info
[04:03] <yngone> sry
[04:03] <AirBender> there are some simple commands
[04:03] <DPic> cd?
[04:03] <AirBender> teah
[04:03] <AirBender> yeah
[04:03] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U, okay, lemme try
[04:03] <yngone> like the 6.10
[04:03] <yngone> or 7.04
[04:03] <Amaranth> yngone: lsb-release -a
[04:03] <AirBender> cd <path to directory> goes into this directory
[04:03] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U, okay, right now, none
[04:04] <yngone> lsb release not found
[04:04] <Amaranth> yngone: lsb_release -a
[04:04] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U, I need to configure my xorg.conf to use that display
[04:04] <Amaranth> yngone: sorry, typo
[04:04] <bluebanana> crimsun, i figured it out. In my sources.list, i had deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty main restricted, but not deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty main.
[04:04] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U, how do I give it a null input device? just don't set it?
[04:04] <AirBender> and there's always a directory called ".." that lets you go up one level(leave the actual directory)
[04:04] <bluebanana> i guess the Canadian repo is not as good as the USA one, eh?
[04:04] <DPic> AirBender, cd /home/.madwifi-0.9.3.2?
[04:04] <AirBender> yeap
[04:05] <DPic> AirBender, it tells me it doesn't exist
[04:05] <AirBender> ok
[04:05] <DPic> sudo?
[04:05] <Jordan_U> DARKGuy, There is a way to tell X to use a certain xorg.conf, I would just use two separate ones
[04:05] <AirBender> let's go slow
[04:05] <bluebanana> ok. i've changed my sources.list. now how do i "reload" in terminal?
[04:05] <yngone> where are all ur drives located
[04:05] <AirBender> when you open a temrinal, your current directory is /home/DPic
[04:05] <DPic> ohh
[04:06] <Jordan_U> bluebanana, sudo apt-get update
[04:06] <DPic> so i have to go up one
[04:06] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U, okay, let me make a new one
[04:06] <AirBender> yeap, but absolute paths works too
[04:06] <bluebanana> Jordan_U, thanks. there are so many commands that i need to remember
[04:06] <DPic> AirBender okay i'm in
[04:06] <yngone> where are all ur drives located
[04:07] <AirBender> I suggest you to use the <TAb> key. That's a powerful tool that autocompletes the commands and paths
[04:07] <AirBender> ok
[04:07] <adamkili> the screen of a laptop i have is really dark and barely readable. I replaced the inverter, but when I powered on the backlight worked for a minute, flickered, and died. what could be the problem?
[04:07] <thev> is there a good GUI for adding and deleting system fonts?
[04:07] <AirBender> so, now let's put down all the wireless interfaces
[04:07] <thev> I have a huge list and most of them are crapola, I want to cut down the amount of scrolling I have to do :)
[04:07] <bluebanana> crimsun, i added that " deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty main" but "sudo aptitude install libgpod1" still does'nt work
[04:08] <AirBender> this is done bye typing: sudo ifconfig interface down
[04:08] <yngone> where are all ur drives located
[04:08] <yngone> like
[04:08] <yngone> ./boot   /swap and /
[04:08] <AirBender> where interfaces are ath0 and wifi0 in your case
[04:08] <tbuss> prob with FF; every time I try to navigate to another page other than home page FF crashes. If I try to access any of the menus from the toolbars, FF crashes
[04:08] <sin18> on ubuntu 7.04, i am prompted for wep key everytime; wat can i do so it wont ask everytime ?
[04:08] <bluebanana> crimsun, i tried using "apt-get" instead and it says that i already have the newest version. and that it is set to manual installed
[04:09] <bluebanana> what is wrong?
[04:09] <yngone> Im trying to install truecrypt      i have ubuntu     /boot   2GB     /swap   1GB    /   75GB
[04:09] <yngone> i wanna encrypt swap and /
[04:09] <yngone> where are those drives
[04:09] <crimsun> bluebanana: pastebin `apt-cache policy libgpod1`
[04:09] <AirBender> DPic, How is it going ?
[04:10] <DPic> AirBender, It wouldn't work for wifi0 but it worked for ath0
[04:10] <Jordan_U> DARKGuy, Researching more maybe you shouldn't make a second Xorg.conf... ( note that I havn't ever worked with two monitors, let alone two graphics cards )
[04:10] <bluebanana> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39817/ (you're so smart)
[04:10] <AirBender> DPic, have you tried to put down wifi0 after ath0 ?
[04:11] <dinoerata> hi all , which tool i need to use from fiesty to get a real good memory tuneup and allocation
[04:11] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U, it's ok, I've worked with different serverlayouts too =)
[04:12] <DPic> AirBender, okay, that worked
[04:12] <AirBender> ok
[04:12] <AirBender> step two
[04:12] <crimsun> bluebanana: you have a random binary package installed from a non-Canonical-hosted repo that's causing problems.
[04:12] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U, however, if I run it without sudo, it says "Fatal server error: could not move (current X logfile here) to (new logfile path)"
[04:12] <AirBender> go into the "Scripts" directory
[04:12] <dinoerata> help all, what tool is very good for tuning ubuntu fiesty - memory, speed etc
[04:12] <AirBender> actually the name is lowercase
[04:12] <crimsun> bluebanana: note that the version of the libgpod1 package in feisty is 0.4.2, _not_ 0.5.2
[04:12] <bluebanana> crimsun, yeah. i think it was when i was trying to get a later version of gtkpod then was in ubuntu's official repo
[04:13] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U, IIRC, then I chmodded 777 /var/log, then it started to say stuff about not being able to grab the IO addresses :/
[04:13] <bluebanana> so should I re-install libgpod1?
[04:13] <AirBender> DPic, I suggest you to type the ls command anytime you enter a directory to know what is inside it
[04:13] <DPic> AirBender cd scripts?
[04:13] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U, then I reinstalled due to big system mess :P
[04:13] <AirBender> yeap
[04:13] <DPic> AirBender, alright
[04:13] <crimsun> bluebanana: sudo dpkg -P --force-depends libgpod1 && sudo apt-get -f install
[04:14] <AirBender> DPic, now execute the madwifi-unload.bash and then the find-madwifi-modules.sh
[04:14] <jessica> does anyone know how to get fwcutter working
[04:14] <AirBender> DPic, do you know how to execute a script?
[04:14] <jessica> i followed the tutorial but i still dont have wireless
[04:14] <DPic> nope
[04:14] <AirBender> ok
[04:14] <AirBender> it's easy
[04:14] <AirBender> just type ./script name
[04:14] <dinoerata> does anyone know the best way to go about tuning fiesty ?? memory etc
[04:15] <AirBender> for the second script you have to pass an argument
[04:15] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U, do you know how to avoid xinit ask for root privileges? it would be stupid to run X as sudo :/
[04:15] <jessica> !fwcutter
[04:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fwcutter - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:15] <bluebanana> crimsun, done
[04:15] <jessica> ~fwcutter
[04:15] <AirBender> DPic, for the second script type: ./find-madwifi-modules.sh $(uname -r)
[04:15] <pqnet> dinoerata tuning a computer means advantage some operation instead of others. What do you need your computer for?
[04:16] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U, and my framebuffer console got messed up, brb xD
[04:16] <Jordan_U> !broadcom | jessica
[04:16] <ubotu> jessica: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:16] <AirBender> jessica, any troubles with bcm43xx-fwcutter?
[04:16] <bluebanana> crimsun, now i'm down to version 0.99.8. Before (20 minutes ago), I was using version 0.99.10 of gtkpod
[04:16] <jessica> !bcm43xx
[04:16] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[04:16] <DPic> AirBender, ./madwifi-unload.bash returned FATAL: Module wlan_scan_sta is in use. and FATAL: Module wlan is in use.
[04:16] <dinoerata> pqnet, i need this baby to handle lots of apps running simultaneously and fast browsing
[04:16] <AirBender> uhmmm
[04:16] <dinoerata> 256ram
[04:16] <Jordan_U> jessica, All you probably need to know is to install the package "bcm43xx-fwcutter" and it will offer to grab the firmware for you
[04:16] <NotSure> i use gnome, how can I make wallpapers change at random?
[04:17] <AirBender> are you using another wifi adapter right now?
[04:17] <dinoerata> actually 512mb
[04:17] <DPic> wired connection
[04:17] <DPic> were you talking to me?
[04:17] <logan> What do I need to open a .rar file?
[04:17] <AirBender> DPic, yeah
[04:17] <crimsun> logan: unrar
[04:18] <bluebanana> crimsun, thanks for your help. i think i can do what i want to do now (import m4b files to my iPod).
[04:18] <jessica> Jordan_U: I did that but it didnt work :(
[04:18] <dinoerata> bye all
[04:18] <Jordan_U> jessica, Do you know the exact chipset of your card?
[04:18] <AirBender> DPic, make sure your modules are really down (NetworkManager sometimes mess it up
[04:18] <NotSure> i use gnome, how can I make wallpapers change at random?
[04:18] <logan> How do I use unrar?
[04:18] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U, ok, back :P
[04:19] <DPic> AirBender, how do i do that?
[04:19] <altf2o> man unrar
[04:19] <DPic> nevermind, i just disabled wirless
[04:19] <jessica> Jordan_U: yes 1 sec let me find it
[04:19] <Heyoka> is anyone here interested in helping to draft a petition for radiohead to offer their album download in an open format?
[04:19] <AirBender> DPic, type ifconfig
[04:19] <altf2o> i'd imagine it's not much more difficult than, "unrar file.rar"
[04:19] <Polygon89> logan, if you install unrar, you should be able to extract rar files using GUI programs like fileroller or ark or whatever
[04:19] <AirBender> and make sure that your atheros interfaces aren't listed there
[04:19] <jessica> Jordan_U: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[04:19] <DPic> it isn't
[04:19] <pqnet> dinoerata if you are interested in increment responsivity from the app you are running you can try a pre-emptive kernel, although it's prone to issues
[04:19] <AirBender> wifi0 and ath0 ?
[04:19] <AirBender> ok
[04:20] <HeXiLeD> is there a way to run xchat in text mode with ubuntu ? ( irssi doesnt have the scripts that  i need  to use )
[04:20] <pqnet> dinoerata and applications crashes more than with a normal kernel
[04:20] <NotSure> i use gnome, how can I make wallpapers change at random?
[04:20] <AirBender> DPic, try doing it with sudo
[04:20] <Jordan_U> jessica, That isn't supported fully by the bcm43xx drivers yet
[04:20] <DARKGuy> HeXiLeD, unless you compile it yourself, don't think so
[04:20] <HeXiLeD> DARKGuy: yes so it seems
[04:20] <Polygon89> NotSure, its not a feature in gnome so your gonna have to find some external program ....
[04:20] <Jordan_U> jessica, " 	Unstable (transmission power issues, work in progress) " from http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/?go=devices
[04:20] <DARKGuy> HeXiLeD, there's no "xchat-text" command in the normal apt-get xchat thing
[04:20] <DPic> AirBender, still no dice
[04:20] <AirBender> uhmm
[04:20] <HeXiLeD> DARKGuy: ya :(
[04:21] <Jordan_U> jessica, You probably need to use ndiswrapper :(
[04:21] <NotSure> Polygon89, any ideas where I may find such a program?
[04:21] <jessica> Jordan_U: dammit
[04:21] <AirBender> jordan_U, but in feisty it works
[04:21] <Polygon89> NotSure, let me consult the google gods
[04:21] <Jordan_U> DARKGuy, irssi
[04:21] <NotSure> Polygon89, or maybe you know where (in what file) there is a setting for the wallpaper so I could write a script?
[04:21] <pqnet> dinoerata a general suggestion is to keep memory usage under RAM size
[04:21] <Jordan_U> DARKGuy, scrolled up, nvm :)
[04:21] <AirBender> DPic, try typing: sudo rmmod ath_pci
[04:22] <pqnet> dinoerata you should avoid using desktop-effects as well
[04:22] <Dr_willis> NotSure,  thers commands that set the wall paper. proberly a dozen of them. :) which one to use - depends on your window manager/desktop
[04:22] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U, lol, it's ok :)
[04:22] <NotSure> Dr_willis, I use gnome
[04:22] <Polygon89> NotSure, here is a link with some different programs and hacks to get random wallpapers in gnome
[04:22] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U, so yeah, o.o do you know what do I have to do to avoid xinit/startx/X to ask for root privileges? (or to run gdm on the 2nd display and log in with another user then :/ )
[04:22] <Dr_willis> i wonder if  esetroot works for gnome
[04:22] <Polygon89> NotSure, http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/01/random-wallpaper-in-gnome/
[04:22] <NotSure> Polygon89, thanks
[04:23] <Polygon89> NotSure, it also says in that article that the file is  .gnome2/backgrounds.xml
[04:23] <AirBender> DPic, have you tried it after rmmod?
[04:23] <pqnet> dinoerata if you are used to all those crappy software in windows that keep memory usage low, they usually give more damage than what they help
[04:23] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U, though, that would require VNC to load along with X so I can connect to it through the main display and login xD
[04:24] <Jordan_U> DARKGuy, Looking into is X ( at a certain level at least ) is supposed to run as root, so there must be some setuid somewhere ( xinit? ) between startx and actually starting X :)
[04:24] <DPic> AirBender it doesn't say FATAL: Module wlan_scan_sta is in use. now but it still says FATAL: Module wlan is in use.
[04:24] <AirBender> DPic, I think the problem is with network manager
[04:24] <Jordan_U> DARKGuy, xinit and startx should not ask for root privileges, only X started manually should
[04:24] <DPic> AirBender, what should i do then?
[04:25] <george__> wlanconfig athX destroy.  ...or something like that
[04:25] <pqnet> dinoerata has gone away faster than he wanted his computer to be...
[04:25] <AirBender> DPic, I think it's better to shutdown network manager first, but you probably are connected with it
[04:25] <Jordan_U> DARKGuy, I can start x with xinit and startx as 'me' on my machine at least ( and I am pretty sure that is how it should be )
[04:25] <DPic> AirBender, yeah i am but i can switch to another comp
[04:25] <AirBender> DPic, try setting networkmanager to shutdown wireless(right button click on the icon)
[04:26] <AirBender> ok
[04:26] <AirBender> that would be great
[04:26] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U, that's what it puzzles me! I can startx and xinit on my own :0 display too, the problem is when I try to run it on a different display, thus why I'm opting to run xinit as sudo and let it run GDM so I can log in as my normal user
[04:26] <AirBender> but do it quickly
[04:26] <AirBender> :D
[04:26] <flush> anyone using ipcop
[04:27] <kitche> DARKGuy: are you setting DISPLAY? or are you still trying to use :0 but on another monitor/screen?
[04:27] <DPic> AirBender, i already had it shutdown wireless
[04:27] <AirBender> ok, now go to Administration --> network  and make sure that the wireless adapter isn't activated
[04:27] <Jordan_U> kitche, He is trying to start X on another monitor connected to another graphics card
[04:28] <AirBender> DPic, and then try again the script
[04:28] <AirBender> and then tell me what happens
[04:28] <jessica> ndiswrapper doesnt work :(
[04:28] <jessica> guess im going back to xp
[04:28] <jessica> !ndiswrapper
[04:28] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:28] <AirBender> jessica don't even name it!!
[04:28] <DPic> yeah it isn't disabled and it still doesn't work
[04:29] <DPic> it isn't enabled*
[04:29] <AirBender> ok
[04:29] <AirBender> so, can you move to another computer?
[04:29] <Negra> what is the rythm box app for in ubuntu?
[04:29] <pavon> hi, where could I get documentation describing the X-windows initialization process?
[04:29] <Jordan_U> jessica, :( There may be a way to get it to work, but it probably won't be easy
[04:29] <jessica> AirBender: how
[04:29] <DPic> AirBender, yeah brb
[04:29] <AirBender> ok
[04:29] <yngone> how do u get ur disk space info
[04:29] <yngone> how do u get ur disk space info
[04:29] <yngone> sry for double
[04:29] <jessica> Jordan_U: how can I do it
[04:29] <Jordan_U> jessica, In fact there most likely is a way, but I share your distain for ndiswrapper
[04:30] <jessica> Jordan_U: this sucks, I just want it to work
[04:30] <DARKGuy> kitche, uh, I try "xinit -- -conf /home/user/myconfig.xorg :1" should I set "DISPLAY=:1" too? but wouldn't that affect my other apps (or future) running on :0 ?
[04:30] <AirBender> jessica, are you using Ubuntu Gutsy?
[04:30] <yngone> how do u get ur disk space info
[04:30] <LiberCogito> jessica what wifi card?
[04:30] <Jordan_U> jessica, There is a guide on wiki.ubuntu.com that might do it...
[04:30] <DPic> AirBender, alright
[04:30] <jessica> AirBender: gusty is not out yet is there
[04:30] <DARKGuy> yngone, dude, calm down a bit :/... the screen is long enough :P and you can get it typing "du -h" in a terminal
[04:31] <yngone> ty
[04:31] <jessica> Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02
[04:31] <jessica> thats my wifi card
[04:31] <jessica> Jordan_U: whats the guide
[04:31] <DARKGuy> yngone, you're welcome
[04:31] <DPic> AirBender i just disabled networkign and it still doesn't work
[04:31] <AirBender> jessica, Gutsy isn't officially there, but you can use, but i don't recommend it to Broadcom Users
[04:31] <yngone> DARKGuy,   wasnt what i meant
[04:31] <AirBender> DPic, oj
[04:31] <AirBender> ok
[04:31] <AlinuxOS> hello all, is it possible to convert WMV format to > MP3 in Ubuntu ?
[04:31] <yngone> DARKGuy,   i wanna see the space left on my partitions
[04:31] <Jordan_U> jessica, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff
[04:31] <jessica> AirBender: will they fix Broadcom in gusty?
[04:31] <AirBender> let's do something
[04:31] <heartsblood> what is the difference between beryl and compiz?
[04:32] <LiberCogito> jessica: Oh.  I'm sorry.  Broadcom and linux = hell.  I have a broadcom chip too, but I can't get it to work, so I use a netgear USB adapter i had lying around.
[04:32] <jessica> LiberCogito: broadcom sucks
[04:32] <Jordan_U> jessica, Your card won't be supported until http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/?go=devices says it is
[04:32] <AirBender> jessica, They're working, but right now, it works better in feisty (some days agio I made a 4318 work in Feisty
[04:32] <DARKGuy> yngone, that tells it to you in a terminal window
[04:32] <AirBender> DPic, restart your computer in recovery mode
[04:33] <DPic> ok
[04:33] <LiberCogito> jessica:  The bcm43xx project is nice and all, but...  11MBps max SUCKS.  Just grab either a usb or pc card adapter that works out of the box.
[04:33] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U, kitche: any clue?
[04:33] <HHP2K> uhh guys.. what does it mean when ubuntu starts up and it says "Failed to initialize HAL!"
[04:33] <HHP2K> I'm guessing that's a bad thing.
[04:33] <Jordan_U> jessica, It's not really something that Ubuntu can "fix" , broadcom refuses to document their hardware so the people who make the bcm43xx drivers have to reverse-engineer everything
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[04:33] <jessica> Jordan_U: then I will never buy another acer
[04:33] <DARKGuy> yngone, oh, sorry XD! my bad! it's df -h
[04:33] <Polygon89> HHP2K, yeah that sounds bad :D
[04:34] <AirBender> jessica, that's a good choice, buy an IBM Thinkpad instead ;)
[04:34] <LiberCogito> Jessica:  Or you could just crack open the notebook and replace the wifi card with another one.
[04:34] <DARKGuy> lmao
[04:34] <jessica> Jordan_U: I used that guide and did everything correctly, it just didnt work
[04:34] <Jordan_U> jessica, It's more important to never buy another broadcom card, or better, buy a computer with Ubuntu ( or another distro ) pre-installed
[04:34] <jessica> LiberCogito: really? I do have a spare wifi card
[04:34] <jessica> Jordan_U: my boyfriends toshiba satellite is pretty good with it
[04:34] <pbt1> can someone tell me when the new version of ubuntu will be released?
[04:34] <HHP2K> Any help? I don't want something to happen :(
[04:34] <dibbi> hmm
[04:35] <Polygon89> pbt1, in october sometime
[04:35] <acoustyk> is gutsy stable?
[04:35] <LiberCogito> jessica: as long as what you have is the same type of hardware as what's in there, it shouldn't be a problem.
[04:35] <AirBender> not by definition
[04:35] <dibbi> why can't i connect to irc.ircnet.is with gaim, anyone? :)
[04:35] <Polygon89> acoustyk, i am using it atm and its pretty stable.... im getting random messages that some random program crashed (opera plugin wrapper crashed when im not running opera??) but it seems fine
[04:35] <pbt1> ah, "sometime..." my wife's laptop is spazzing out, really needs a reinstall. but I dont' want to do that 4 days before a new release. blarg.
[04:35] <AirBender> but depengins on the setup, it's running very well right now
[04:35] <LiberCogito> jessica the wifi wlan card is usually just under the plastic panel over the keyboard.  just pry that up, switch cards, and ta-da.
[04:35] <Jordan_U> jessica, Dell, system76 and some others sell computers with Ubuntu pre-installed ( and hence with hardware supported completely in Linux )
[04:35] <Polygon89> HHP2K, did it give any error?
[04:35] <jessica> LiberCogito: arg, how am I supost to know if the hardware is the same? if it fits in the slot?
[04:36] <LiberCogito> jessica: pretty much :)
[04:36] <yngone> ok ty  , now do u know how to encrypt /swap and / partitions with truecrypt
[04:36] <yngone> ?
[04:36] <acoustyk> polygon89 how is the NTFS read/writing working?
[04:36] <jessica> LiberCogito Ill be back soon to let you guys know if it worked
[04:36] <jessica> cya
[04:36] <dibbi> thanks anyways :/
[04:36] <LiberCogito> try not to break anything! :)
[04:36] <AirBender> DPic, how is it coing?
[04:36] <AirBender> going
[04:36] <Polygon89> acoustyk, with ntfs-3g it works pretty much perfectly.... havent had a problem with it... just if windows crashes you gotta reboot windows / shut it down properly before ntfs-3g will mount it (saftey feature...doesnt want to screw up the FS)
[04:37] <HHP2K> Polygon89: Nope, everything seems okay..
[04:37] <acoustyk> ok
[04:37] <Draggin> Good morning! Would anyone be able to tell me exactly what this error message means and how I would go about trying to fix it? checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[04:37] <acoustyk> thanks
[04:37] <Polygon89> HHP2K, when did it give you an error? was it like a libnotify popup?
[04:37] <HHP2K> Polygon89: I just go through reconfiguring the xserver, because when I reboot the xorg config file somehow confused the busID of my AGP card. :\
[04:37] <Jordan_U> Gahhh, just when jessica leaves :(
[04:37] <HHP2K> Polygon89: When it boot, it gave me a little popup, so yeah.
[04:38] <jrib> Draggin: what are you trying to install?
[04:38] <Polygon89> HHP2K, hmm maybe hal didnt like the fact that you changed the bus id
[04:38] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U, kitche: any clue?
[04:38] <HHP2K> Polygon89: What exactly is HAL?
[04:38] <Draggin> jrib - a package called KGuitar
[04:38] <Jordan_U> DARKGuy, No :(
[04:38] <DPic> AirBender, ok now what?
[04:38] <Draggin> HHP2K - Hardware Abstraction Layer
[04:39] <AirBender> now try to do the last step
[04:39] <Polygon89> HHP2K, it stands for hardware abstraction layer....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardware_abstraction_layer
[04:39] <AirBender> (execute the scripts)
[04:39] <AirBender> well, first put down the interfaces
[04:39] <HHP2K> Draggin, Polygon89: oh, that does sound bad.
[04:39] <Draggin> jrib - and a sentient computer in 2001 :)
[04:39] <Jordan_U> Can somebody who is going to be in this channel a while do something for me ?
[04:39] <HHP2K> I think I'll restart the machine once more and see what happens.
[04:39] <Pelo> Jordan_U,  I should be here for the next hour, what do you need ?
[04:40] <jrib> Draggin: you are using apt to install from the repos?
[04:40] <Draggin> jrib - no - it's not listed... I downloaded the package, unzipped it and tried running ./configure
[04:40] <br24> can anyone help with synergy?
[04:40] <dymaxion> i'm trying to get gnome to work correctly on a fresh ubuntu install
[04:40] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U, oh well... thanks anyways :D
[04:40] <LiberCogito> dymaxion: whats wrong with it?
[04:40] <_vector_> anyone have experience with lvm in ubunti with partitions larger than 2TB?
[04:40] <dymaxion> just built a new file server, integrated video
[04:41] <DPic> AirBender it's telling me the directory doesn't exist
[04:41] <dymaxion> but when gnome starts my monitor clicks off
[04:41] <Jordan_U> Pelo, When / if Jessica comes back tell her that someone was able to get the same card as her ( bcm4318 ) working with the ndiswrapper guide she used but with these drivers http://dlsvr03.asus.com/pub/ASUS/wireless/WL-100g-03/Driverv3100640.zip
[04:41] <br24> can anyone help with synergy?
[04:41] <dymaxion> like it doesn't have the right driver or something
[04:41] <jrib> !info kguitar | Draggin
[04:41] <ubotu> draggin: kguitar: an efficient and easy-to-use environment for a guitarist. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 452 kB, installed size 1504 kB
[04:41] <AirBender> DPic, now you are probably out of your home directory
[04:41] <Pelo> Jordan_U,  copied and waiting to paste
[04:41] <Jordan_U> Pelo, I'm looking at the testimonial @ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff
[04:41] <DPic> i'm typing cd /home/danny/.madwifi-0.9.3.2
[04:41] <AirBender> you are probably on /
[04:41] <jrib> Draggin: have you enabled universe?
[04:41] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U, oh well! looks like it's an X problem: http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org/msg397232.html
[04:42] <LiberCogito> dymaxion: did video work with the livecd?
[04:42] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U, in fact, a bug itself
[04:42] <DARKGuy> heh
[04:42] <Jordan_U> Pelo, And ping me in a private message if you can also
[04:42] <AirBender> so using ls and cd surf to the folder
[04:42] <dymaxion> i haen't tried the live CD -- i forgot to mention i'm installing ubuntu server
[04:42] <DPic> AirBender i got it-- i just needed an "/" before "home"
[04:42] <AirBender> or just type: cd /home/DPic/.madwifi<TAB_KEY>
[04:42] <Draggin> Hmmm... jrib, okay, thanks... Mind explaining something else to me then, please?  I thought the Add/Remove app was a visual interface to apt-get, not so? I can't find it in there.  And about the universe thing - I really wouldn't know... Where do I do that and what does it mean?
[04:42] <br24> can anyone help with synergy?
[04:42] <AirBender> ok
[04:42] <dymaxion> everything worked fine in command line, but once i installed gnome and reboot i'm stuck
[04:42] <Pelo> Jordan_U,  will do
[04:42] <HHP2K> Polygon89: It restart successfully without the popup, so I think I'm okay. :)
[04:43] <Jordan_U> Pelo, Thanks
[04:43] <Polygon89> HHP2K, yeah :D
[04:43] <DPic> airender it still says FATAL: Module wlan is in use.
[04:43] <br24> hey Polygon89
[04:43] <DPic> AirBender*
[04:43] <Pelo> Jordan_U,  are you sure on the nick spelling ?
[04:43] <AirBender> DPic, uhmm
[04:44] <_vector_> I have a 3TB raid device under lvm and on reboot it only shows 746.13 GB (1TB) but was fine before reboot.
[04:44] <HHP2K> Polygon89: Thanks for your help :)
[04:44] <dymaxion> this is my first time using ubuntu, or linux for that matter, but i'm far from computer illiterate
[04:44] <Jordan_U> Pelo, it's "jessica", just copied and pasted
[04:44] <AirBender> DPic, have you tried rmmod athpci ?
[04:44] <Cleric> just ran a live cd i burned and keep getting 'Error reading CD' message, can't get it to work, any idea why or how to fix it?
[04:44] <_vector_> ne1?
[04:44] <Polygon89> HHP2K, yep :D
[04:44] <AirBender> sorry
[04:44] <AirBender> DPic, rmmod ath_pci
[04:44] <dymaxion> perhaps i should reformat with a ubuntu desktop install? would that work better?
[04:44] <HHP2K> Cleric: Your optical drive or the CD may be damaged
[04:44] <jrib> Draggin: yes, you should be able to use add/remove once you enable universe in system -> admin -> software sources
[04:45] <zhanx> trying to repartion a hd that has ntfs on it. but gparted cant find the mount point and keeps it locked
[04:45] <DPic> AirBender, still doesn't work
[04:45] <jrib> !universe > Draggin (read the private message from ubotu)
[04:45] <Cleric> HHP2K: how can i find out which it is?
[04:45] <AirBender> DPic, that's quite strange, I'm getting without ideas...
[04:45] <AirBender> DPic, try to uninstall madwifi-tools package
[04:46] <Jumbalia> Ok, I have a wireless USB adapter.  When I use the package manager, it disconnects me from the internet about 15-90 seconds after a download starts.  I can download files normally and use the internet fine.  It does this with all adapters.  Any ideas?
[04:46] <AirBender> apt-get remove madwifi-tools
[04:46] <Pelo> zhanx, try with the live cd
[04:46] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U, kitche: I FIXED IT!!! chmod u+s /usr/bin/X11R6/Xorg fixes it :D
[04:46] <zhanx> k
[04:46] <Draggin> jrib - thanks - Universe was already enabled then... just did an apt-get for kguitar and everything worked fine, except... Where do I find my app now that it is installed? It doesn't seem to be on the menu...
[04:46] <HHP2K> Cleric: Check both, if the disc is scratched/damaged, replace/rebuff it
[04:46] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U, kitche: Now can run X happily as my own user. Now how do I make it run VNC automatically? what package do I install and put in a custom .xinitrc ?
[04:46] <HHP2K> Cleric: To check the optical drive, insert a host of CDs and see if they end up doing what they're supposed to do
[04:47] <zhanx> pelo hopeing to get it done beofre that as i am putting a large hd in my laptp[
[04:47] <jrib> Draggin: no idea... are you using kde or gnome?
[04:47] <Draggin> jrib - gnome
[04:47] <Jordan_U> DARKGuy, VNC is installed by default
[04:47] <Cleric> HHP2K: hmm ok dont have CDs to hand unfortunately, live CD is in perfect condition though - memorex too?
[04:47] <jrib> Draggin: try 'killall gnome-panel'
[04:47] <Pelo> zhanx,  the live cd doesn'T regard any partition as mounted or in use, so it might allow you to repartiton the hdd will fewer issues
[04:47] <rabbitwee1> hi. I downloaded and installed the debian menu from the synaptic package manager now I have no idea where it is. when I try and run the file name it tells me it can't find it, yet it has installed.
[04:47] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U, I see, how do I set it up then?
[04:48] <DPic> AirBender, still no luch
[04:48] <DPic> luck*
[04:48] <Draggin> jrib - what does that do? Doesn't sound good :)
[04:48] <HHP2K> if the live CD is in perfect condition, it may be the drive, but at the same time, it could be something else wrong with the system
[04:48] <jrib> Draggin: just reloads the menu
[04:48] <HHP2K> Cleric: Is the system new, and do you have any other drives lying around you can pop in there?
[04:48] <Pelo> rabbitwee1,  debian menu are just extra menu in your regular applications menu
[04:48] <Draggin> jrib, cool... Let me try
[04:48] <AirBender> DPic, I'm getting tired, let's think the first script isn't necessary, try the second
[04:48] <rabbitwee1> it's not there though
[04:48] <DPic> AirBender i got it!
[04:48] <DPic> thank you  google
[04:48] <HHP2K> Cleric: If the CD works on another drive, it's more conclusive evidence that your original drive is broken.
[04:48] <AirBender> hahaha
[04:49] <DPic> i had to run rmmod ath_rate_sample
[04:49] <rabbitwee1> I downloaded it but the debian menu is not in my applications menu. I restarted as well.
[04:49] <navets> LiberCogito: hey this is jessica on my boyfriends laptop
[04:49] <Jordan_U> DARKGuy, System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop is the easiest way, set it to use a password ( obviously asking won't work :)
[04:49] <AirBender> ahh, that's good
[04:49] <AirBender> didn't know
[04:49] <DPic> teamwork ;)
[04:49] <Cleric> system is not new but have had software issues on it before, not since linux though. no spare external drives about?
[04:49] <navets> LiberCogito: turns out the other wifi card is broadcom
[04:49] <AirBender> Yeaahh!
[04:49] <DPic> alright what's the next script?
[04:49] <AirBender> DPic, That's what Community is all about
[04:49] <AirBender> ok
[04:50] <HHP2K> Cleric: Have you received the same error message in succession over a number of tries?
[04:50] <AirBender> the next is: ./find-madwifi-modules.sh $(uname -r)
[04:50] <Jordan_U> DARKGuy, But to do that you will have to cheat and create another user and have the other monitor log in as that ( but you are cheating with vnc anyway :)
[04:50] <swarm> possible to use wget to get a file off a few server using user/pass?
[04:50] <Jordan_U> DARKGuy, Then just "vncviewer localhost"
[04:50] <alecwh> When can we start ordering live cds from ubuntu.com for 7.10?
[04:50] <tech-mike_> sup peeps, need some help with samba ... i think
[04:50] <Draggin> jrib - still nothing there... I found the program in /usr/bin though, and if I run 'kguitar' it seems to work, but it gives a bunch of error messages before it appears...
[04:50] <HHP2K> alecwh: Pretty sure once it's released
[04:50] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U, I see, so I create another user, set remote desktop with that user, then logout and make that X login as the other user?
[04:51] <jrib> swarm: yes, man page has details
[04:51] <DPic> uname?
[04:51] <Cleric> HHP2K: yes many times, have tried rebooting but still persists
[04:51] <HHP2K> alecwh: I know, I can't wait to get my hands on it either :P
[04:51] <DPic> my name?
[04:51] <AirBender> DPic, and you have to agree with removing the old modules
[04:51] <Jordan_U> DARKGuy, Yup
[04:51] <AirBender> DPic, type just the same
[04:51] <AirBender> uname -r is a command
[04:51] <rabbitwee1> can anyone help me find where the debian menu is? it's not under apps.
[04:51] <Fezzler> Wonder if I can hook my Apple Newton MessagePad to Ubuntu?
[04:51] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U, can't I just start the VNC server and set it the :1 display as parameter or something ?
[04:51] <AirBender> we type it inside the $(   ) to use its output as a parameter for the script
[04:51] <alecwh> HHP2K: Do you know how many we can order? I want to start distributing them throughout SLC Utah.
[04:52] <tech-mike_> when i open smb://mshome i get a "couldnt display all of the contents"
[04:52] <DPic> alright all set
[04:52] <AirBender> ok
[04:52] <Pelo> swarm,   man wget  there is an option for it
[04:52] <swarm> yeah -r
[04:52] <swarm> strange though, my password was a !9 in it
[04:52] <AirBender> DPic, it's time of the truth
[04:52] <swarm> and when i type my pwd, it shows the 9th thing i ever typed
[04:52] <HHP2K> Cleric: Due to previous experience I'm inclined to say that the optical drive is malfunctioning. You're advised to find other CDs and test the functionality of the drive through them. If that's impossible atm or in the future, I'd recommend trying other activities with the machine to see if other errors of the same fashion appear. Overall, I'd consider replacing the drive, but not until you're sure.
[04:52] <swarm> just like !9 shows it normally
[04:52] <DPic> AirBender restart?
[04:52] <Jordan_U> DARKGuy, Yes, that would be why creating another user is cheating :)
[04:52] <AirBender> DPic, go up one directory
[04:52] <phpwne1> how do i fix x server?
[04:52] <DPic> Ok
[04:52] <AirBender> and now we will install the driver
[04:53] <Pelo> swarm,  try with single quotes
[04:53] <phpwne1> whats the reconfigure command
[04:53] <jrib> Draggin: probably just because it is a kde app.  You should report a bug on the missing icon at bugs.ubuntu.com
[04:53] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U, I think I get the drift... lemme try! ^_^
[04:53] <swarm> k
[04:53] <Jordan_U> DARKGuy, Anyway, I'm gone for a while
[04:53] <Pelo> phpwne1,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:53] <DPic> AirBender ok
[04:53] <DARKGuy> Jordan_U, okay, thanks a LOT :D !!
[04:53] <AirBender> DPic, once in the madwifixxx directory, type: make
[04:53] <Jordan_U> DARKGuy, np :)
[04:53] <AirBender> and ir will probably fail because of lack of something
[04:53] <Cleric> HHP2K: thanks for your help
[04:53] <Draggin> jrib - thanks - how (and where) do I post long chunks of info to ask someone about again?  Would appreciate it if I could just show you the specific error messages
[04:53] <AirBender> it
[04:54] <jrib> !paste | Draggin
[04:54] <ubotu> Draggin: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:54] <HHP2K> Cleric: No problem mate :)
[04:55] <AirBender> DPic, how is it going' is it compiling the driver?
[04:55] <DPic> AirBwender, yeah it did
[04:55] <AirBender> yeaahh!!
[04:55] <AirBender> now
[04:55] <DPic> no i mean yeah it failed
[04:55] <AirBender> type make install
[04:55] <AirBender> ahh
[04:55] <AirBender> :(
[04:55] <AirBender> hahaha
[04:55] <DPic> lol
[04:55] <Shrimpy_> hey guys, i have a hardware question: i used to boot ubuntu on an old pc. well i went to change my ram and turns out it was the wrong kind. but now whenever i boot the computer i get no reponse from the video card. as in the screen tells me to check the cabel
[04:56] <AirBender> DPic, now starts the hard part, read the error and gess about it
[04:56] <swarm> hmmm
[04:56] <Pelo> Shrimpy_, check to make sure that the video card is properly slotted in ,   take it out and put it back
[04:56] <altf2o> Shrimpy_: so you literally see a message saying, "Check the cable"? Or a black screen?
[04:56] <DPic> AirBender, huh?
[04:56] <Jumbalia> how do I remove kernel xxx.16-generic
[04:56] <swarm> wget keeps freezing at: ==> PASV ...
[04:56] <AirBender> DPic, what kind of error did you see?
[04:56] <DPic> I got one Error 1 and two Error 2s
[04:57] <AirBender> ok
[04:57] <Shrimpy_> altf20: the screeen says: check cable. monitor working OK
[04:57] <AirBender> but just before the end the erorr is written
[04:57] <Shrimpy_> Pelo: i think that was one of the first things i tried
[04:57] <Draggin> Aaaargh!! Why can't I copy my error message to PasteBin??
[04:58] <phpwne1> how can i disable the login screen?
[04:58] <swarm> i need to DL a file off a FTP with progress (its a 20gb backup file)
[04:58] <Pelo> altf2o,  I once took a comp to a shop because it stoped working , on the way over I heard a "klunk" in the box ( I was walking over )  decided to head back to the office instead,  and it worked,  I deduced all the comp needed was  a bit of fresh air
[04:58] <tonyyarusso> Draggin: from a terminal?  try ctrl-shift-c
[04:58] <swarm> any idea the best way to do that?
[04:58] <DPic> make[3] : *** [/home/danny/.madwifi-0.9.3.2/ath_hal/uudecode]  Error 1
[04:58] <phpwne1> swarm use wget
[04:58] <phpwne1> least overhead
[04:58] <IndyGunFreak> yup, wget
[04:58] <AirBender> mmm
[04:59] <swarm> trying
[04:59] <Draggin> tonyyarusso - no, in Firefox - says I'm trying to spam it... And my javascript is switched on...
[04:59] <swarm> but its freezing or something
[04:59] <DPic> make[3] : *** [/home/danny/.madwifi-0.9.3.2/ath_hal/]  Error 2
[04:59] <tonyyarusso> Draggin: aaah.  Wait a bit, sacrifice a goat, try again.
[04:59] <Anthology> hi, can someone point me in the right direction to getting a program to recieve/interpret my Garmin Forerunner 301?
[04:59] <DPic> make[2] : *** [/home/danny/.madwifi-0.9.3.2/ath_hal/]  Error 2*
[04:59] <Draggin> tonyyarusso - hahaha... Ummmm... What?!
[04:59] <swarm> wget ftp://myusername:'mypasswd'@mydomain.com/my20gbfile.tar
[04:59] <JEFFmasterFlex> tonyyarusso:  i thought it was chickens for pastebin?
[04:59] <AirBender> DPic, I'm almost sure that the problem is that you haven't installed the kernel source and build essential packages (ok, my mistake, i forgot to tell you to install it)
[04:59] <tonyyarusso> Draggin: seriously, it's just finicky.
[04:59] <Pelo> Anthology,  wath is a garmin forerunner 301 ?
[05:00] <tonyyarusso> JEFFmasterFlex: could be - I'll have to check the docs
[05:00] <tonyyarusso> JEFFmasterFlex: Goat might have been for repositories being down perhaps?
[05:00] <Draggin> tonyyarusso - okay... Guess I'll just have to try again then...
[05:00] <DPic> AirBender alright so what do i need to do for that?
[05:00] <AirBender> DPic, so, you will have to restart, connect to the internet and get the packages by synaptic
[05:00] <adamkili> i have a laptop who's screen went really dim and barely readable. I replaced the backlight inverter, but when i powered on, the backlight worked for about 30 seconds, flickered and died. What could be the problem?
[05:00] <swarm> http://pastebin.com/m1ef82fbd
[05:00] <Pelo> swarm,  then it is possible that the single quotes don'T work,  try regular quotes maybe ?
[05:00] <swarm> sticks like that forever
[05:00] <swarm> ok
[05:00] <Draggin> Okay seriously... that's quite annoying... It simply won't let me...
[05:01] <swarm> ?
[05:01] <swarm> it doesn't deny passwd?
[05:01] <DPic> how do i restart from here?
[05:01] <adamkili> P.S: my connection is working now, so you can respond
[05:01] <AirBender> DPic, there's no problem now with network manager, because we already uninstalled the madwifi modules
[05:01] <Pelo> swarm,  nvm I got confused
[05:01] <jrib> Draggin: use pastebin.ca
[05:01] <AirBender> just type init 5
[05:01] <Shrimpy_> Pelo, it seems it does not load the bios. well it does not show
[05:01] <swarm> if i use double, it doesnt work
[05:01] <swarm> single works
[05:01] <Anthology> Pelo: it is a GPS and heartrate monitor for training and stuff
[05:01] <Anthology> Pelo: i use it for my cycling
[05:01] <tech-mike_> anybody know why when i try accessing smb://mshome i get a "couldnt display all contents" msg
[05:02] <AirBender> this is not a restart, but you will go to runlevel 5 and start the services needes to connect as well ad the graphic environment
[05:02] <yngone> any encrypted there harddisk with truecrypt
[05:02] <Draggin> jrib - is that the full URL?
[05:02] <yngone> any1*
[05:02] <jrib> Draggin: http://pastebin.ca/
[05:02] <Pelo> Anthology, go in synaptic and do a search for relevant keywords and also try  searching the model in the forum maybe there is something ,  if that fails you can probably try to run the windows prog with wine
[05:02] <tonyyarusso> Anthology: I'm not sure about the Forerunner, but my eTrex works with some stuff in the repos.  Just search for Garmin.
[05:02] <Draggin> jrib... There's nothing there... Blank page...
[05:02] <Anthology> ok, thanks
[05:03] <swarm> no ideas?
[05:04] <Pelo> swarm,  google,  www.ubuntuforums.org
[05:04] <jrib> Draggin: strange... http://rafb.net/paste/
[05:04] <tonyyarusso> Pelo: Hey, the Edge is pretty geeky...
[05:04] <swarm> i have been using both
[05:04] <swarm> or i wouldn't be this far
[05:04] <swarm> this seems to be an issue with wget or something
[05:04] <swarm> does scp show progress?
[05:04] <DPic> AirBender alright what do i do now?
[05:05] <AirBender> DPic, ok, now go into the Synaptic package manager
[05:05] <Pelo> swarm,  some ftp server like passive mode and such,  maybe someting in wget lets you play with that
[05:05] <Pelo> AirBender,  menu > system > admin > synaptic package manager
[05:05] <Pelo> AirBender, nvm I'M getting confused again
[05:06] <Draggin> jrib - thanks, finally :) Here's the error it gave me: http://rafb.net/p/wHXID236.nln.html
[05:07] <AirBender> Pelo, didn't understand what did you mean
[05:07] <DPic> AirBender ok
[05:07] <AirBender> ok
[05:08] <AirBender> Pelo, ok
[05:08] <meuradio> I'm on an emergency shell, I need help mounting a scsi external usb drive
[05:08] <rabbitwee1> hello. In menu edit when I check a box to display a menu, nothing happens, and the box then unticks itself. does anyone know what this is caused by?
[05:08] <jrib> Draggin: don't know... does the app still work?
[05:09] <Pelo> meuradio,   sudo mount /dev/whatever /mountpoint
[05:09] <Draggin> jrib - it seems to start up, but I haven't tried really doing anything yet
[05:09] <AirBender> DPic, ok now search for the linux-source package and mark it for install (but hold on)
[05:09] <yngone> anyone got truecrypt running?
[05:09] <navets> where can i get help with c shell
[05:09] <peter_> can anyone help me with bluetooth on fiesty ?
[05:10] <DPic> AirBender Ok
[05:10] <meuradio> Pelo: do I have to create the mountpoint before? when I tried "mount sdb" the reply I got was "can't find sbd in fstab of mtab"
[05:10] <adamkili> i have a laptop who's screen went really dim and barely readable. I replaced the backlight inverter, but when i powered on, the backlight worked for about 30 seconds, flickered and died. What could be the problem? The CCFL tube? (i have a working IRC connection now)
[05:10] <Draggin> jrib - there doesn't seem to be any sound though... Think the error might have something to do with that?
[05:10] <jrib> Draggin: maybe
[05:10] <yngone> anyone got truecrypt running?
[05:10] <linuxbomb> adamkili, the ccfl are bad
[05:10] <Pelo> meuradio,   you need to mount a specific partition  (sdb1)  , and yes you need to creat a mount point   sudo mkdir /media/usb    for exemple
[05:10] <AirBender> DPic, now search linux-headers-generic
[05:10] <linuxbomb> adamkili, they arent that easy to replace
[05:11] <peter_> can anyone help me with bluetooth on fiesty ?
[05:11] <Pelo> meuradio, what is the FS of that usb drive ? ntfs will cause you problems you won'T be able to write to it
[05:11] <DPic> AirBender already isntalled
[05:11] <andin> ann'
[05:11] <Pelo> peter_,   you need to ask specific questions
[05:11] <AirBender> I thought that, just making sure
[05:12] <meuradio> Pelo: I know, it took me 2 days to manage to format it to fat32
[05:12] <DPic> Ok
[05:12] <peter_> well i'm trying to pair my BT devices and it doesnt seem to work
[05:12] <meuradio> it was ntfs before
[05:12] <AirBender> DPic, now search build-essential (not sure if you will need, but is better to make sure)
[05:12] <Mandos> Hello.
[05:12] <Pelo> meuradio,   sudo mount -f vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/usb
[05:12] <peter_> i've installed the necessary packages
[05:12] <Pelo> !hi | Mandos
[05:12] <ubotu> Mandos: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[05:12] <AirBender> DPic, and finally automake and autoconf
[05:12] <meuradio> since I'm on a recovery shell I'm already logged in as root, that should mean I don't need to add "sudo" to the commands?
[05:12] <ubuntu_> Hi there!  It is possible to import all my configurations and e-mail from thunderbird for windows to the Ubuntu one?
[05:13] <Mandos> I've installed Ubuntu on a relatively old machine on a WD 6.4GB hard drive.
[05:13] <AirBender> I'm not quite sure if the automake package exists lols
[05:13] <Mandos> BUt I can't boot it.
[05:13] <Mandos> It has a kernel panic at the very beginning.
[05:13] <Pelo> peter_,  try looking up your model in the forum for instructions  www.ubuntuforums.org
[05:13] <DPic> AirBender a lot of things will be installed for build-essential
[05:13] <lokilistens> okay, i'm booted in a live cd right now.  after gutsy asked me to install the restricted ati driver, i have no picture at all on start up into gutsy
[05:13] <peter_> ok will do ,thanks
[05:13] <AirBender> yeah, I know
[05:13] <Draggin> jrib - thanks for the help though - at least I got the app running, which is more than I had before :)
[05:13] <DM|> Anyone know how to set resolution by terminal ?
[05:14] <adamkili> linuxbomb: thanks I wanted someone else's opinion before I bought a new CCFL.
[05:14] <Mandos> Do I need to recompile the kernel or something?
[05:14] <Pelo> Mandos,  you'll have to install again ,  and  xubuntu might be a better version for an old computer  get the alternate install cd
[05:14] <DPic> AirBender, that it?
[05:14] <Mandos> I have reinstalled thrice.
[05:14] <linuxbomb> adamkili, if you havent replaced one of those before good luck
[05:14] <jrib> Draggin: try 'aoss kguitar' maybe
[05:14] <Pelo> Mandos,  maybe someone else has advice
[05:14] <Gaming1> I installed thunderbird, what's its default folder?
[05:14] <Mandos> It's a 500Mhz machine with 256MB ram or sog.methin
[05:14] <AirBender> yeaps, I think that's it (If my memory is right)
[05:15] <Draggin> jrib - aoss?
[05:15] <Pelo> Gaming1, possibly in the ~/.mozilla
[05:15] <Mandos> I've looked on the internet, and the kernel panic comes from numerous possible sources.
[05:15] <DPic> AirBender- it's telling me to insert my gutsy beta CD
[05:15] <lemur> omg omg omg 12 days!
[05:15] <jrib> Draggin: in alsa-oss package
[05:15] <kbrosnan> Gaming1: should be ~/.thunderbird
[05:15] <meuradio> Pelo: "cannot create directory /media/usb: read-only file system"
[05:15] <linuxbomb> DM|, vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:15] <AirBender> DPic, it's better to get the latest versions from the internet
[05:15] <Draggin> jrib - sorry... Not following you now
[05:16] <ubuntu_> Hi there!  It is possible to import all my configurations and e-mail from thunderbird for windows to the Ubuntu one?
[05:16] <Kailash> hi.. need help for mod_rewrite rule
[05:16] <lemur> I used to love thunderbird for all my e-mail needs, but it got replaced by evolution simply because it's the gnome default
[05:16] <Pelo> meuradio,  sudo mkdir ....
[05:16] <DPic> It won't let me continue without inserting the CD
[05:16] <AirBender> so, in order to do that it's better to remove the CD-repository
[05:16] <jrib> Draggin: 'aoss' is a command
[05:16] <DM|> linuxbomb im running gutsy, something broke with a update, just trying to get a temporary work around till its fixed
[05:16] <heatxsink_> anyone in here use tomcat on ubuntu?
[05:16] <DPic> AirBender, how?
[05:16] <Mandos> Alright, I'll assume that this is the wrong forum for this?
[05:16] <Draggin> jrib, ah, so I need to execute 'aoss kguitar' ?
[05:16] <DM|> linuxbomb thats why i need a command line to change my resolution
[05:16] <AirBender> DPic, in a terminal type: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:16] <Gaming1> I was thinking of switching from Evolution to Thunderbird, but I can't seem to locate the thunderbird directory
[05:16] <jrib> Draggin: try
[05:16] <meuradio> ubuntu_: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=464584
[05:17] <Pelo> Gaming1,   locate thunderbird
[05:17] <ubuntu_> txs
[05:17] <Tene|AFK> Hey... quick question...
[05:17] <jrib> !fixres > Draggin (read the private message from ubotu)
[05:17] <meuradio> Pelo: "bash: sudo: command not found
[05:17] <Draggin> jrib - seems I need to install it first...
[05:17] <Tene|AFK> How well does Vista get along with grub?
[05:17] <Pelo> Tene|AFK,  tehre is no such think
[05:17] <Kailash> I need the mod_rewrite rule to stop browsing the URL likre http://domain.com/abc.php?http://domain.com/t.txt?
[05:17] <jrib> !fixres > DM| (read the private message from ubotu)
[05:17] <adamkili> linuxbomb: thanks I'll check if I can get to the one in it now before I buy a new one.
[05:17] <meuradio> I am logged as root in an recovery shell with the local hard disk mounted as read only
[05:17] <s2a> is it possible to transmit dial-up from one comp to another with two wireless cards (no routers)?
[05:17] <Draggin> jrib - hey? What does the screenres have to do with it?
[05:17] <c3LT1cFr05t> could someone recommend a good irc site that has an open sourcs crowd only for windows?
[05:17] <Pelo> meuradio,  that makes very little sense,  what are you running atm,  the ubuntu recovery mode , from your install ?
[05:17] <jrib> Draggin: ignore ubotu, you want alsa-oss
[05:17] <AirBender> Dpic, and then insert a # symbol at the beggining of the line that specifies the gutsy CD
[05:18] <Mandos> OK, bye.
[05:18] <linuxbomb> DM|, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:18] <Pelo> c3LT1cFr05t, ask in ##windows
[05:18] <DM|> jrib i have done that, the problem is... the screen res defaults back to 640xXXx when the x server restarts, shut down, and totally ignores xorg.conf info
[05:18] <meuradio> yes, kubuntu 7.10 install on a laptop that I have here by my side
[05:18] <DM|> linuxbomb that makes things worse
[05:18] <Tenebrys> Like, do I have to do a Pissy Pissy Dance in order to be able to get grub to be able to load Windows Vista?
[05:18] <jif> Tenebrys: you should be fine as long as you install vista first, then linux.
[05:18] <D4N`> hi
[05:18] <Tenebrys> Ahhhh.
[05:18] <Tenebrys> Well...
[05:18] <Pelo> meuradio, I'm lost then
[05:18] <c3LT1cFr05t> pelo: odale compa muchisimas gracias
[05:18] <meuradio> I get into recovery shell because at boot I get a "error 29 disk write error"
[05:18] <Tenebrys> Looking at info here...
[05:19] <Pelo> meuradio, I don't mean taht I don'T know the kubuntu dcommand but   sudo should work on any linux box anyway
[05:19] <linuxbomb> DM|, thats too bad why dont you edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and comment out the resolutions you dont want
[05:19] <DPic> AirBender they are all installed but make still doesn't work
[05:19] <DM|> linuxbomb done that too, its like gutsy is ignoring Xorg
[05:20] <Pelo> meuradio,  I think you need to recover your hdd before you can mount to it ,  not sure how you do that ,  run fsck maybe
[05:20] <meuradio> Pelo: being in the recovery shell I am listed as root@dell-laptop, therefore I shouldn't need sudo as I am alerady root
[05:20] <Tenebrys> In the event that the Ubuntu installer doesn't pick up on the presence of Vista and update grub accordingly, how much grub acrobatics do I have to do to add Vista to it?
[05:20] <Kailash> any Linux professional here?
[05:20] <Kailash> I need help to write rewrite rule
[05:20] <meuradio> Pelo: fsck hangs with error 8, saying that maybe the disk is a zerolenght partition (which is obviously not)
[05:20] <Tenebrys> (I've dealt with grub a lot before, Ubuntu on this system likes to tear up boot.1st and remove my WinXP entry every time it downloads an update.)
[05:20] <Pelo> meuradio,   yeah , you are correct,  no sudo , but then that means you need to fix your hdd before proceeding,  try with the llive cd
[05:21] <IndyLucian> how do i uninstall applications when I installed using 'make install'?
[05:21] <yngone> how do i unmount
[05:21] <yngone> /dev/hda3             73901376   5386276  64761112   8% /   < --- how do i unmount
[05:21] <D4N`> unsure
[05:21] <DM|> linuxbomb but the good thing is nvidia-settings can change my resolution.. 3rd party stuff working better than ubuntu, first time for everything i guess
[05:21] <AirBender> DPic, have you installed all the stuff and still doesn't work?
[05:21] <DPic> AirBender, yeah
[05:21] <meuradio> Pelo: I didn't seem to be able to find the local disk from the live cd
[05:21] <c3LT1cFr05t> i discovered a little trick for ubuntu, the colorzilla ext is unavailable for linux.But if you go to...
[05:21] <AirBender> Dpic, that's too bad...
[05:21] <Draggin> jrib - no... still nothing... Still says 'TSE3: Alsa: Received invalid input type ' in the command line as soon as I try playback
[05:21] <yngone> /dev/hda3             73901376   5386276  64761112   8% /   < --- how do i unmount
[05:21] <c3LT1cFr05t> your desktop and rgt clk
[05:22] <meuradio> I'm starting it up again now, to check if I was doing something wrong
[05:22] <Pelo> IndyLucian,   do the whole proceedure agian with the source ( .configure  make ) but at the end run   sudo make uninstall , or sudo make remove,  I forget which
[05:22] <AirBender> DPic, try typing: sudo make clean before
[05:22] <IndyLucian> k, thnx
[05:22] <jrib> Draggin: don't know then
[05:22] <Pelo> meuradio, I think I understand the prob but it's over my head, sorry , maybe the ppl in ##linux can help
[05:22] <AirBender> Dpic, and then sudo make
[05:22] <DPic> yeah i did that and it worked
[05:23] <yngone> how do i boot so only /boot mounts
[05:23] <Draggin> jrib - no problem, thanks again for all the trouble
[05:23] <Gaming1> How to install plugins in Evolution?
[05:23] <DPic> only i didn't sudo make clean before
[05:23] <DPic> is that bad?
[05:23] <yngone> how do i boot so only /boot mounts
[05:23] <Draggin> jrib - how do I remove an app installed using apt-egt install <app> ?
[05:23] <Pelo> Gaming1,  drop them in ~/.gnome/evolution I think
[05:24] <Pelo> yngone, why do you need to do that ?
[05:24] <yngone> i want to encrypt the rest of the harddisk with truecrypt
[05:24] <AirBender> DPic, sorry, I was sleeping... lols
[05:24] <IndyLucian> Pelo, 'No Rule To Make Target' error on both
[05:24] <AirBender> DPic, you mean it worked?
[05:24] <DPic> i think so
[05:24] <Pelo> IndyGunFreak,  you need to make first
[05:24] <DPic> I didn't get any errors
[05:25] <c3LT1cFr05t> find your way into the same box you can use a personal pic for desktop go into properties and then color.The eyedropper color picker can pull a color on OR off the color wheel.Try it on your browser and it works exactly like colorzilla would if it was available in linux
[05:25] <IndyGunFreak> Pelo: ?... i think you got me confused with someone else.
[05:25] <Pelo> IndyLucian,  you need to make first
[05:25] <AirBender> DPic, Do you know what? Someone said  : "No news are good news"
[05:25] <IndyGunFreak> although it warms my heart you mentiond me...lol
[05:25] <yngone> anyone could help me?
[05:25] <lemur> maybe yngone
[05:25] <jport> how do i disable suspend when the lid is closed in feisty ?
[05:25] <lemur> maybe...
[05:25] <Pelo> IndyGunFreak, how could I ever confuse you with anyone
[05:25] <Tenebrys> About unmounting?
[05:25] <AirBender> DPic, so now type: sudo make install
[05:25] <jrib> Draggin: apt-get remove
[05:25] <Tenebrys> sudo umount /dev/hdc3 should work.
[05:25] <IndyGunFreak> Pelo: seems strange to me, i don't know..lol
[05:25] <Draggin> jrib - thank you :)
[05:25] <jrib> !apt > Draggin (read the private message from ubotu)
[05:26] <yngone> umount: /dev/hdc3 is not mounted (according to mtab)
[05:26] <DPic> AirBender, am i all set???
[05:27] <brokensambot> Hi
[05:27] <AirBender> DPic, take it easy ;)
[05:27] <AirBender> DPic, so make install with no errors?
[05:27] <DPic> AirBender, sorry it's been months of tryign to get this to work and being withing minutes of getting there is making me antsy :)
[05:27] <DPic> yeah no errors
[05:27] <AirBender> that's great(no errors)
[05:27] <AirBender> DPic, so now type:
[05:28] <ome> When I enable 3d desktop there are no bars on the top of the windows. Anyone know how to fix this?
[05:28] <AirBender> DPic, type: sudo modprobe ath:pci
[05:28] <Tenebrys> oops...
[05:28] <Tenebrys> wrong one.
[05:28] <AirBender> ath_pci
[05:28] <Pelo> ome,  it's a decorator issue ask in #ubuntu-effects
[05:28] <Tenebrys> sudo umount /dev/hda3 then?
[05:28] <ashu> your window decorator not working
[05:28] <DPic> AirBender ok
[05:28] <AirBender> ok
[05:28] <AirBender> now
[05:29] <AirBender> DPic, now I'm scared !!!
[05:29] <AirBender> and you must be scared too
[05:29] <DPic> lol i'm excited
[05:29] <AirBender> so type iwconfig
[05:29] <DPic> Thanks Pelo
[05:29] <AirBender> I don't remember if the interface comes ready by default
[05:30] <DPic> AirBender, okay ath0 is back
[05:30] <Wolf23> guys i have a photo.jpg 2.4mb, how can i make it less size please!!
[05:30] <AirBender> ok
[05:30] <DPic> is that good?
[05:30] <yngone> how would i unmount everything but
[05:30] <AirBender> yeap, (I think)
[05:30] <yngone> ./boot
[05:30] <Tenebrys> Wolf, use The GIMP.  Resize.
[05:30] <Pelo> Wolf23,  use gimp and change size , rez etc
[05:30] <lemur> gimp is the shizzle
[05:30] <Tenebrys> Or save as a different file format or whatever else can be done.
[05:30] <ashu> ho
[05:30] <AirBender> DPic, ok so now: sudo iwlist ath0 scan
[05:31] <Wolf23> Pelo:  thanx
[05:31] <DPic> AHHH! No scan results!!!!!
[05:31] <gladier> hey - if you have multiple sound cards - how can you see which input has the microphone connected
[05:31] <AirBender> hahaha
[05:31] <AirBender> make sure you have the interface up
[05:31] <AirBender> sudo ifconfig ath0 up
[05:31] <DPic> Pelo, phew. Thanks, that was a close one
[05:32] <dano-> anyone else run into a bug with compiz-fusion where ubuntu freezes when resizing windows?
[05:32] <DPic> AirBender still no scan results :(
[05:32] <Pelo> dano-,  you'll have to ask in #compiz-fusion or in #ubuntu-effects
[05:32] <brokensambot> I need some new music, someone yell out something good!
[05:33] <brokensambot> I'm open to anything
[05:33] <DPic> AirBender, please tell me there's still hope
[05:33] <dano-> what kind of music do you like?
[05:33] <dano-> thanks Pelo
[05:33] <Pelo> DPic, sorry I don'T hand out alchool in this channel , you might be under age
[05:33] <gladier> nightwish /children of bodom
[05:33] <gladier> lol
[05:33] <AirBender> DPic, I don't know, I'm starting to think that you're Sorcered or something...
[05:34] <brokensambot> Anyone else? Most of us are listening to something right now, call it out.
[05:34] <Pelo> brokensambot, Lorenna McKennit , Lenoard Cohen, Megadeath,  Moxy Fruvous
[05:35] <AirBender> DPic, but you can always do a restart... sometimes Magic happens during restarts...
[05:35] <Jordan_U> Pelo, You can stop watching for jessica
[05:35] <AirBender> but I have my doubts
[05:35] <Pelo> Jordan_U, must I ?
[05:35] <brokensambot> Thanks Pelo
[05:35] <DPic> AirBender, i guess i have nothing to lose
[05:35] <dano-> Leonard Cohen is a good one
[05:35] <AirBender> Yeap
[05:36] <dano-> brokensambot, The Replacements
[05:36] <AirBender> and if it doesn't work, you can still try ndiswrapper, but that's not the idea
[05:36] <Jordan_U> Pelo, No, I just realized that the person who said it worked for their bcm4318 but with other drivers actually incorperated that info into the directions
[05:37] <Pelo> Jordan_U, k
[05:37] <CapaH> Where do I go in order to adjust the volume for the headphones?
[05:37] <Jordan_U> Pelo, So I guess it might still be useful for her to know that it worked for someone, but she did in fact probably use the right drivers
[05:37] <Pelo> Jordan_U,  I just deleted everything, so I'm out of it
[05:37] <Jordan_U> Pelo, Look at that nick again, then decide if you think that stalking is a good idea :)
[05:38] <Pelo> CapaH, doesn't the  volume contrl in the top panel work ?
[05:38] <AirBender> DPic
[05:38] <Pelo> Jordan_U,  I like living dangerously
[05:38] <CapaH> Pelo: I have no top panel -- how would I get to that volume control from the main menu?
[05:38] <AirBender> DPic, there's still Hope
[05:38] <Pelo> CapaH, are you using kubuntu ?
[05:38] <AirBender> because I forgot to enable the scanning module
[05:39] <AirBender> :D
[05:39] <CapaH> Pelo: Ubuntu
[05:39] <IndyGunFreak> right click the bottom panel, new panel... move the new one to the top.
[05:39] <DPic> AirBender phew
[05:39] <Pelo> CapaH, got a bottom panel ?  right click on a free area , select add to pannel,  look in the list for the volume thingy
[05:39] <DPic> because the restart didn't do shit
[05:39] <anson> hi - i'm trying to get make to build in 32 bit on a 64 bit machine - howto?
[05:39] <andersbr> Can anyone suggest good software for editing a PDF?
[05:39] <CapaH> awesome thanks
[05:40] <AirBender> DPic, ok, let's enable the scanning module
[05:40] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[05:40] <CapaH> Is there a way to make the sound, louder than the max?
[05:40] <AirBender> DPic, sudo modprobe wlan_scan_sta
[05:40] <Pelo> anson,  check in the forum I know there is something in there about it  www.ubuntuforums.org
[05:40] <IndyGunFreak> CapaH: turn your speakers up?
[05:40] <CapaH> I mean when they are aleady at the max
[05:40] <anson> Pelo, thanks
[05:40] <Jordan_U> CapaH, Make sure that all channels are to the max
[05:41] <andersbr> CapaH:  apt-get install spinal-tap-go-up-to-eleven-lib?
[05:41] <IndyGunFreak> CapaH: well, try right clicking the volume horn, and open volume control, make sure master, and PCM are all the way up.
[05:41] <IndyGunFreak> they seem to effect volume more than anything
[05:41] <Pelo> CapaH, dbl click the sound icon make sure all the cursors are up
[05:41] <Clara_imuts-----> hijoikoippppp
[05:41] <Jordan_U> CapaH, Easiest way to check is to type "alsamixer" in a terminal
[05:41] <DPic> AirBender still no scan results!
[05:41] <CapaH> ahh PCM was not
[05:41] <Clara_imuts-----> hhhhhhhh
[05:42] <Pelo> Clara_imuts-----, can we help you  or are you just having a seizure ?
[05:42] <andersbr> IndyGunFreak: If you're having problems with a specific sound file, you might use Audacity or mp3gain to boost the signal.
[05:42] <Clara_imuts-----> jjjjjjjj
[05:42] <Jordan_U> !ops
[05:42] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[05:42] <AirBender> DPic, make sure you have enabled the Atheros Hardware Abstraction Layer in the Restricted Drivers Manager
[05:42] <IndyGunFreak> andersbr: ?... my sound is fine... i think you confused me wiht IndyLucian
[05:42] <IndyGunFreak> :)
[05:43] <andersbr> IndyGunFreak: xchat's autocomplete is the suck.
[05:43] <DPic> AirBender yeah
[05:43] <nalioth> Pelo: IndyGunFreak: you can play hunt the wumpus in #ubuntu-offtopic   :)
[05:43] <DPic> :(
[05:43] <IndyGunFreak> nalioth: lmao
[05:43] <IndyLucian> my sound is fine. . . im just having a bi**h of a time with apache
[05:43] <Pelo> tsk tsk tsk
[05:43] <Clara_imuts-----> ff
[05:43] <Clara_imuts-----> Clara_imuts
[05:44] <IndyGunFreak> u again?
[05:44] <Clara_imuts-----> hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[05:44] <Pelo> jrib,  are you available for a ban ?
[05:44] <AirBender> DPic, try to associate with your Access Point without scanning
[05:44] <AirBender> DPic, type: sudo iwconfig ath0 essid Your_Access_Point_Name
[05:44] <DPic> ok
[05:45] <AirBender> and then type iwconfig to see if the association was successful
[05:45] <bmt2> is there a way to change the way gnome looks like on my desktop
[05:46] <bmt2> is there a way to change the theme on my gnome desktop
[05:46] <Pelo> !theme | bmt2
[05:46] <ubotu> bmt2: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[05:47] <Pelo> bmt2,  welcome to linux where you can change everything
[05:47] <DPic> what about my key?
[05:47] <AirBender> DPic, type: sudo iwconfig ath0 key [1]  s:your_key_in_ascii
[05:48] <bmt2> Pelo: thank you
[05:48] <bmt2> is there a way to change the theme on my gnome desktop
[05:48] <DPic> AirBender ascii?
[05:48] <arden__> hi
[05:49] <bmt2> ubotu: can you give me those urls again
[05:49] <AirBender> DPic, leters
[05:49] <Pelo> !themechange | bmt2
[05:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about themechange - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:49] <Pelo> !theme | bmt2
[05:49] <ubotu> bmt2: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[05:49] <DPic> AirBender what about numbers?
[05:49] <AirBender> because you can also type it like: 00:0D:A5:65:E0:09
[05:49] <Pelo> bmt2,  check in the system> prefs menu , under theme for the ones immidately available
[05:49] <AirBender> wich is in Hexadecimal notation
[05:50] <DPic> umm is it unsafe to tell you my key?
[05:50] <AirBender> no
[05:50] <bmt2> Pelo: thanks
[05:50] <DPic> 0123456789
[05:50] <AirBender> but just type your key
[05:50] <DPic> i did
[05:50] <DPic> it didn't work
[05:50] <AirBender> well, it's unsafe to use a key like that!
[05:51] <DPic> yeah, my dad made it lol
[05:51] <AirBender> ok
[05:51] <bmt2> Pelo: the themes already there are very , very plain
[05:51] <AirBender> well dear DPic, I think that's it
[05:51] <Pelo> bmt2,  www.gnome-look.org , knock yourself out
[05:51] <bmt2> Pelo: thanks
[05:52] <Pelo> bmt2,  it was in the list the bot gave you
[05:52] <AirBender> you can install Ubuntu Again if you want to discard some hypothesis
[05:52] <AirBender> hey
[05:52] <AirBender> but
[05:52] <AirBender> mmm
[05:52] <DPic> Okay well then do you know how i could make money to afford this? http://www.zareason.com/shop/product.php?productid=16151&cat=0&page=1
[05:52] <Pelo> DPic,  child prostitution ?
[05:52] <AirBender> type: dmesg | grep atheros
[05:52] <BlackCow> so um, anyone have any clue how to set up ssh through xwin?
[05:53] <DPic> Pelo, know any pedos?
[05:53] <flush> hey
[05:53] <Pelo> DPic,  just the one but he's in jail now
[05:53] <flush> anyone using wine and steam?
[05:53] <BlackCow> like im trying to connect to my server on a windows machine with xwin but it says I am missing xterm, anyone know where I can find that, ive been looking all over the place.
[05:53] <Pelo> flush,  try asking in #winehq
[05:53] <kahrytan> !o4o | DPic  and Pelo
[05:53] <ubotu> DPic  and Pelo: Some things are inappropriate for #ubuntu.  Controversial topics: war, race, religion, politics (unless related to software licencing), gender, sexuality, drugs, questionable legal activities, removing of oneself from the planet (except by space travel) are not for here, perhaps #off-topic or ##politics. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy) - Thanks.
[05:53] <Rageon> can someone recommend me a proggie to monitor my core 2 duo temps etc?
[05:54] <DPic> AirBender, what now?
[05:54] <kahrytan> !info desklets | Rageon
[05:54] <ubotu> rageon: Package desklets does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[05:54] <kahrytan> !info gdesklets | Rageon
[05:54] <ubotu> rageon: gdesklets: Architecture for desktop applets. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.35.3-4ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 466 kB, installed size 2452 kB
[05:54] <Pelo> BlackCow,  xterm should be installed in ubuntu by default if not  , sudo apt-get install xterm
[05:54] <Pelo> Rageon, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[05:54] <BlackCow> man i love apt-get, is there nothing it dosnt have, thank you pelo
[05:54] <AirBender> if dmesg | grep atheros
[05:54] <kahrytan> Rageon, it has applets that use lsensors.
[05:54] <Pelo> Rageon, there are also pannel apps
[05:55] <AirBender> or dmesg | grep ath_pci says nothing
[05:55] <Rageon> cheers guys
[05:55] <AirBender> I don't know what to do
[05:55] <kahrytan> Anyone else having problems with kde-look.org?
[05:55] <AirBender> you can still install ndiswrapper and get the winXP drivers for your card runing on linux
[05:55] <Pelo> kahrytan,  you mean beside the fact that it is for kde users ?
[05:55] <kahrytan> Pelo, or those who have the libraries
[05:55] <BlackCow> yeah it was weird, i installed ubuntu server edition but it has nothing its supposed to come with, ive had to use apt-get for all the server programs it was supposed to already have
[05:55] <Jordan_U> kahrytan, Other than the fact that I don't use KDE, no :)
[05:56] <DPic> [   18.116000]  ath_pci: 0.9.4.5 (0.9.3.2)
[05:56] <Flannel> BlackCow: it installs the server stuff as an opion, so you mightve missed them.
[05:56] <Jordan_U> kahrytan, What IP address is it resolving to for you? Might be a DNS problem
[05:56] <AirBender> DPic, the same as me
[05:57] <kahrytan> Jordan_U,  Im not pinging it
[05:57] <AirBender> I'm starting to think that your card is off
[05:57] <kahrytan> Jordan_U, kde-look seems to be down allot.
[05:57] <BlackCow> hmm, im pretty sure i selected LAMP server, oh well
[05:57] <DPic> off? wouldn't most of the commands we tried not work if it had been off
[05:57] <Pelo> kahrytan, kde-look.org loads for me
[05:57] <Jordan_U> kahrytan, It's up for me now
[05:57] <IndyGunFreak> kahrytan: cuz kde sucs...lol
[05:58] <kahrytan> Pelo, (212.112.240.69
[05:58] <Pelo> kahrytan, still loads
[05:58] <kahrytan> Pelo, doesnt load for me.  stops at connecting
[05:59] <AirBender> DPic, the commands works on the drivers wich are just files
[05:59] <Jordan_U> kahrytan, Try pinging it and see what ip address it tries to go to
[05:59] <AirBender> and the device is mapped as a file too
[05:59] <IndyGunFreak> kahrytan: its workin for me to, u sure you put the url in right?
[05:59] <AirBender> but I agree that if the interface is off, something should fail
[06:00] <kahrytan> IndyGunFreak,  use ip address
[06:00] <L33B> hello all
[06:00] <kahrytan> IndyGunFreak, I get  "ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted" from ping in terminal
[06:00] <Jordan_U> kahrytan, You can't just enter in an ip address in the browser
[06:00] <riotkittie> yay, its nickrud
[06:00] <kahrytan> Jordan_U, actually, you can.
[06:00] <Jordan_U> kahrytan, At least not until ip46 get's going
[06:01] <nickrud> hi riotkittie
[06:01] <DPic> AirBender can you help me with ndiswrapper?
[06:01] <Jordan_U> kahrytan, Not on the internet you can't
[06:01] <riotkittie> 'ello :D
[06:01] <heguru> Jordan_U: you can enter an IP address in the browser
[06:01] <Jordan_U> kahrytan, Many sites use the same ip
[06:01] <kahrytan> Jordan_U,  shhh..  obviously dont know
[06:01] <Jordan_U> heguru, But you can't be sure it will get you to the site you want
[06:02] <DPic> AirBender for my PC ndiswrapper says the drivers i installed are invalid
[06:02] <kahrytan> either way. kde-look is down for me
[06:02] <heguru> Jordan_U: yes its true indeed, some websites use something called host headers to route to the right website on the same IP
[06:02] <ubuntu_> One question!  Can I install Google Toobar like the one on windows?  I would like to have the photoslide and all the stuff it comes with, it is possible?
[06:02] <Jordan_U> kahrytan, What ip is kde-look resolving to for you?
[06:02] <ubuntu_> I mean google desktop
[06:02] <kahrytan> Jordan_U,  told you
[06:02] <heguru> Jordan_U: but that's very rare, majority of big websites are hosted on their on IP
[06:02] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_,  check the google extensions homepage.
[06:02] <kahrytan> Jordan_U, 212.112.240.69
[06:03] <Jordan_U> kahrytan, Did you highlight me when you did?
[06:03] <AirBender> DPic, are you sure you installe dthe right drivers?
[06:04] <AirBender> DPic, you actually need the .inf and .sys files
[06:04] <Jordan_U> kahrytan, For me it's 63.214.247.170 they may have changed the ip and it just hasn't propagated to you yet, or possibly one of their servers is down but not all of them
[06:04] <kahrytan> Jordan_U, The server at 212.112.240.69 is taking too long to respond.
[06:04] <Jordan_U> kahrytan, Again, I don't think that they respond to pings
[06:05] <DPic> AirBender yeah i did
[06:05] <AirBender> ok
[06:05] <kahrytan> Jordan_U, 63.214.247.170 is some domain squatter site.
[06:05] <AirBender> DPic, may be the 520M doesn't have the atheros chipset inside
[06:06] <AirBender> but if you have the original install CD with you, this should be the right driver
[06:06] <ubuntu_> I need to run the Google Desktop with the same features than Windows, it is possible?
[06:06] <ome> #ubuntu-effects
[06:06] <Jordan_U> kahrytan, It is also kde-looks ip, *ipv4 does not have enough unique ips for the entire internet*
[06:06] <Jordan_U> kahrytan, That is why I said that you can't simply put the ip into the browser
[06:06] <DPic> AirBender lspci returned AR5005VL
[06:07] <AirBender> ok
[06:07] <DPic> Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5005VL 802.11bg Wireless NIC (rev 01)
[06:07] <AirBender> this isn't the same chipset that I have
[06:07] <AirBender> but it's still an atheros
[06:07] <DPic> This is a differnt computer than the one we've been working with
[06:08] <DPic> I'm taking a break from my laptop
[06:08] <DPic> This is my PC
[06:08] <kahrytan> Jordan_U,  don't give me that load of crap about ip in browser please.
[06:08] <kahrytan> im not an idiot
[06:08] <ubuntu_> I need to run the Google Desktop with the same features than Windows, it is possible?
[06:08] <Jordan_U> kahrytan, It is not crap, and I never said you were
[06:08] <Jordan_U> kahrytan, Look it up, there are tools that list what sites use the same ip
[06:08] <kahrytan> Jordan_U,  yes it is crap and kde-look worked fine 6 hours ago.
[06:09] <AirBender> DPic, I know
[06:09] <nixternal> ubuntu_: Google Desktop for Linux doesn't have the same features as the Windows release
[06:09] <DPic> AirBendar, just making sure
[06:09] <nixternal> ubuntu_: if you read the Google Desktop page, it used to tell you that
[06:09] <AirBender> ok
[06:09] <heguru> kahrytan: kde-look working fine from here at 212.112.240.69
[06:09] <ubuntu_> nixternal and there is something for Ubuntu, to leave notes and / or photo slides?
[06:09] <AirBender> DPic, I'm getting hungry and sleepy
[06:09] <DPic> AirBender, if your nick is from the show then kudos to you because that show is awesome and i have it set to record all episodes on my DVR
[06:10] <AirBender> but...
[06:10] <Polygon89> DPic, haha
[06:10] <nixternal> notes == tomboy, photo slides someone will have to help me with, I don't use Gnome, so I couldn't tell you
[06:10] <AirBender> hahaha yeahh!
[06:10] <nixternal> FSpot I think is the photo package
[06:11] <DPic> So pumped for season three
[06:11] <AirBender> great story
[06:11] <DPic> book three*
[06:11] <kahrytan> Jordan_U, kde-look is refusing a connection. and fails to connect. It finds the ip address, just cant connect in firefox
[06:11] <Jordan_U> kahrytan, Research things like shared hosting or else explain to me why sites like this http://www.myipneighbors.com/ exist
[06:11] <AirBender> Ok, DPic, I've used ndiswrapper but I'm not familiar with the errors
[06:12] <DPic> AirBender, i'll let you go to sleep now. i'm pretty tired too
[06:12] <AirBender> I suggest you to do the following:
[06:12] <AirBender> ok
[06:12] <AirBender> but
[06:12] <mikebot> What does this LaTeX error mean: ! Misplaced alignment tab character &.
[06:12] <AirBender> try removing the modules from atheros
[06:12] <AirBender> rmmod ath_pci and rmmod wlan:scan_sta
[06:12] <DPic> alright thanks
[06:13] <Flannel> mikebot: You've got a syntax error in your table.  most likely you need to escape your ampersand (\&)
[06:13] <AirBender> then edit a text file called: blacklist in the /etc/modprobe.d/ directory
[06:13] <mikebot> Oh, rather, how can I do the '&' character in latex?
[06:13] <kahrytan> Jordan_U,  cuz webhosts dont assign one ip to each customer.  been doing that since the 90s
[06:13] <Flannel> mikebot: \&
[06:13] <AirBender> and add a line at the end: blacklist ath_pci
[06:13] <tork> so how long until it releases?
[06:13] <DPic> do this for my laptop or p
[06:13] <DPic> PC*
[06:13] <AirBender> then try to install again the drivers with ndiswrapper
[06:13] <DPic> oh okay
[06:13] <AirBender> both of them
[06:13] <DPic> thanks
[06:14] <nickrud> AirBender: it's usually better to add a new file to that directory, blacklist is owned by an ubuntu package and if you leave it alone, things work smoother
[06:14] <DPic> AirBender, and thanks so much for trying to help me
[06:14] <mikebot> Flannel: Thanks, what about this one: ! Missing number, treated as zero.
[06:14] <mikebot> <to be read again>
[06:14] <mikebot>                    $
[06:14] <mikebot> l.57 p $\Rightarrow$ $\box$
[06:14] <mikebot> Yikes, sorry, thought it would all be on one line.
[06:14] <AirBender> because nickrud, well I'm used to use it directly, didn't know about this methos, thanks
[06:14] <kahrytan> Jordan_U, Shared IP addresses amount web hosts been going on since late 90s before they invented ipv6
[06:15] <AirBender> (the bacause was from another message)
[06:15] <AirBender> DPic, you're welcome
[06:15] <nickrud> AirBender: yeah, its a little gotcha about ubuntu that actually gives you a lot of extra flexiblity; all the /etc/*.d directories work that way
[06:15] <Jordan_U> kahrytan, I know, that is why I mentioned shared hosting, it is possible ( though it would be surprising ) that kde-look.org is using a shared hosting service
[06:16] <AirBender> ok
[06:16] <kahrytan> Jordan_U, far more likely a dedicated server that runs Linux with kde installed
[06:16] <Flannel> mikebot: Don't use $ $ to denote math, use \[ \] 
[06:16] <kahrytan> thats a pun
[06:17] <Jordan_U> kahrytan, Good ;)
[06:17] <mikebot> Flannel: Oh, how come?
[06:17] <AirBender> Well, DPic, the ndiswrapper issue is by far easier than compiling the other drivers, so be lucky
[06:17] <BlackCow> ok well i got xterm installed for xwin but now its giving me an error saying, xterm: display not set, i couldn't find much through google except passing -display through xterm, but that did nothing
[06:17] <Sweeper> yarp. so I've got this toshiba with an ati chipset, but I can't get the intel SB450 soundcard to work. audio preferences shows 6 different devices, but none of them work. any idea? :v
[06:17] <AirBender> Bye to all
[06:18] <kahrytan> Jordan_U, btw, KDE is good for computer illerate people that been using windows and have no desire to learn an OS.
[06:19] <BlackCow> so your opinion is to use no UI?
[06:19] <mikebot> Flannel: How can I make the box character?
[06:19] <heguru> !ot | kahrytan
[06:19] <ubotu> kahrytan: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:19] <Flannel> mikebot: oh, erm, no.  That I got confused with something else.  \[ \]  is for paragraphs.  $ $ work.  You've got other syntax errors.  But, I don't know what.
[06:19] <nickrud> Sweeper: try adding a file to /etc/modules.d/ with    option snd-hda-intel V
[06:19] <Jordan_U> kahrytan, To be clear, I never meant that you can't ever use an ip, just that you can't guarantee that it will get you to the site you want in all cases
[06:19] <kahrytan> heguru,  not talking to you.
[06:20] <Sweeper> nickrud: just "V" at the end, no -?
[06:20] <Flannel> mikebot: \Box, but you really ought to take this to #ubuntu-offtopic, since this isn't really Ubuntu related
[06:20] <nickrud> Sweeper: erm, options snd-hda-intel model=auto   (hit the wrong key when trying to backspace :)
[06:20] <mikebot> Flannel: OK, I found that one, I had $\box$, but apparently I made that up,.
[06:20] <Jordan_U> kahrytan, Sorry, I took it offtopic
[06:20] <Sweeper> ah
[06:20] <kahrytan> Jordan_U,  point is. i cant connect to the ip
[06:20] <mikebot> Ok, sorry, those are all my questions, thanks for the help.
[06:20] <BlackCow> so noone knows why xterm is telling me display is not set :-/
[06:21] <nickrud> this is a laptop, not a laydown top
[06:21] <Jordan_U> BlackCow, How are you trying to run it?
[06:21] <heguru> kahrytan: I am (or rather ubotu is) just letting you know that this is Ubuntu support channel. Feel free to talk all you want about who KDE is for in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:21] <BlackCow> with xwin
[06:21] <BlackCow> i meen just running it, nothing fancy
[06:21] <kahrytan> heguru, it wasnt addressed to you.
[06:21] <Jordan_U> BlackCow, Oh, I don't use windows but do you have an X server running?
[06:21] <nickrud> BlackCow: try DISPLAY=":0"  xterm   see if that works
[06:22] <heguru> kahrytan: then kindly use private messages, anything said here in public chat is addressed to everyone
[06:22] <kahrytan> Jordan_U, got any idea what the problem could be?
[06:22] <BlackCow> gives me back, xterm XT error: can't open display: %s
[06:22] <BlackCow> im supprised how there is nothing on google
[06:22] <kahrytan> congrats, heguru, welcome to ignore.
[06:23] <Jordan_U> kahrytan, No, do other browsers work?
[06:23] <BlackCow> i tried xterm -display
[06:23] <BlackCow> nothing
[06:23] <kahrytan> Jordan_U, nope. Opera doesnt work.
[06:24] <nickrud> BlackCow: normally when you run X , the scripts that start it set an environment variable DISPLAY . It can be 0:0 ; 0:1 ; 1:0 ; 1:1 or any variation of numbers like that. Odd it's not set
[06:24] <Jordan_U> kahrytan, wget ?
[06:25] <Sweeper> nickrud: you meant in /etc/modprobe.d/ right? I tried adding that, but no go ://
[06:25] <Sweeper> nickrud: dmesg does say this, however: [   40.088000]  hda-intel: Invalid position buffer, using LPIB read method instead.
[06:25] <speaker219> can anyone help? I just want to delete everything that installed when i ran 'sudo apt-get install kde' but when i try to do that in the synaptic package manager, it wants to delete amarok too.
[06:25] <BlackCow> so how do i set it :-/ it dosnt help that i have a basic understanding of it, im reading more about it but not finding awnswers
[06:26] <Jordan_U> nickrud, I have never used xwin but it is possible he doesn't have an xserver started yet
[06:26] <navets> speaker219: try sudo apt-get remove kde
[06:26] <kahrytan> Jordan_U, negative
[06:26] <nickrud> Sweeper: there's an option about position,  a sec
[06:26] <speaker219> navets: that doesn't work, it only removes that one package which is 40 KB
[06:26] <nickrud> Jordan_U: true. I was just looking up what xwin was ;)
[06:26] <navets> I am writing a script and I want to know how to check the size of a file
[06:26] <Jordan_U> kahrytan, And I assume you don't have any firewall rules that could be causing it?
[06:26] <xp_prg2> hi all I am on ubuntustudio and why I try to press the tick key on my keyboard it wont show
[06:26] <xp_prg2> any ideas?
[06:27] <BlackCow> thats possible, i just did sudo apt-get install xserver
[06:27] <BlackCow> lets see if that works nowe
[06:27] <kahrytan> Jordan_U, port 80 isnt blocked
[06:27] <BlackCow> nope still the same
[06:27] <Jordan_U> kahrytan, I have no idea
[06:28] <IndyGunFreak> !shortcuts | xp_prg2
[06:28] <ubotu> xp_prg2: Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at http://keytouch.sourceforge.net - See !Keyboard for changing layouts
[06:28] <navets> speaker219: humm, I dunno sorry
[06:28] <Jordan_U> BlackCow, It is not something you would be installing on the Ubuntu machine, it something you need to start in windows
[06:28] <BlackCow> ah
[06:28] <BlackCow> ok
[06:28] <kahrytan> Jordan_U,  then perhaps it's my ip.
[06:29] <Jordan_U> kahrytan, Try using a proxy, your ip might be blocked for some reason
[06:29] <kahrytan> Jordan_U,  or router
[06:29] <speaker219> ok navets thanks anyway
[06:29] <Jordan_U> kahrytan, Yea, do you have a dynamic ip?
[06:29] <nickrud> Sweeper: try adding position-fix=1 to that line; there are also references to position-fix=2
[06:29] <kahrytan> Jordan_U, yeah. DSL. better then cable
[06:29] <Jordan_U> kahrytan, Or a botted computer in your house ;)
[06:29] <speaker219> DSL != Cable
[06:30] <speaker219> Omg DOT!
[06:30] <Sweeper> nickrud: any way I can try this sans reboots? I can't seem to rmmod it, I get "ERROR: Removing 'snd_hda_intel': Resource temporarily unavailable"
[06:30] <kahrytan> Jordan_U,  Windows isnt online :-P
[06:30] <silent> hey guys, just wondering how I can click-drag files in X that will give me options for either copying or moving
[06:30] <Jordan_U> kahrytan, May be that someone who had your ip was part of an attack, or was just posting malicious files / spamming
[06:30] <kahrytan> speaker DSL and Cable are broadband therefore the same.
[06:30] <nickrud> Sweeper: none that I've seen. you might try rmmod -f
[06:31] <Sweeper> nickrud: yea, that's what's giving the error :/
[06:31] <kahrytan> brb
[06:31] <nickrud> Sweeper: took about 4 or 5 reboots to get my hda working.
[06:32] <nickrud> oh, xwin is a x driver for windows??
[06:32] <Jordan_U> nickrud, Yup
[06:32] <nickrud> lol, no wonder I was having troubles finding info
[06:32] <Jordan_U> nickrud, Usually used with cygwin
[06:33] <Jordan_U> nickrud, Which is basically bash for windows
[06:33] <nickrud> I use cygwin, but never considered X
[06:33] <Fezzler> Did I read the next version of Ubuntu will have Windows file sharing protocol built in thereby eliminating need for Samba?
[06:33] <BlackCow> i dunno did you?
[06:34] <Fezzler> Yes1
[06:34] <BlaenkDenum> hey guys on a newly installed computer with ubuntu that has an ati card, what should the driver be, "ati" ?
[06:34] <BlaenkDenum> or "radeon"
[06:34] <rob> if it does, it probably will be based on samba
[06:34] <BlaenkDenum> someone please help I'm in urgent need for it heh
[06:34] <Jordan_U> Fezzler, "built in" does not have quite the same meaning in Unix as it does in windows
[06:34] <BlackCow> erm, radeon is a seires of ATI cards
[06:34] <BlaenkDenum> I'm trying to convert my friend over to ubuntu and his driver was set to vesa instead of ati or radeon
[06:34] <BlaenkDenum> anyone?
[06:34] <quantumflux> anyone know of a good guide for pcmia wireless cards
[06:34] <navets> where can I find help with c shell
[06:34] <Fezzler> Yea, but no more Samba config!
[06:34] <BlaenkDenum> BlackCow: but there's also a radeon driver
[06:34] <nickrud> BlaenkDenum: either; ati will use the radeon driver if it's better suited. So simply use ati in the xorg.conf
[06:34] <BlaenkDenum> there's "radeon" and "ati"
[06:34] <BlaenkDenum> nickrud: thanks dude
[06:34] <acoustyk> I installed NTFS-3G but it still wont write to the drive any ideas?
[06:35] <Dr_willis> acoustyk,  you did run the ntfs-config tool?
[06:35] <Dr_willis> acoustyk,  you then did UNMOUNT and remount the ntfs drives?
[06:35] <BaD_CrC> can additional drives be added into a RAID-0 setup after 2 drives have been setup?
[06:35] <acoustyk> no
[06:35] <acoustyk> i dont think so
[06:35] <acoustyk> whats the command for the config tool?
[06:35] <acoustyk> I just installed it from the repository
[06:35] <kahrytan> Jordan_U, and it loads now
[06:36] <Jordan_U> Fezzler, If it is "built in" it still will use samba, it will just work "out of the box"
[06:36] <Jordan_U> acoustyk, Did you install ntfs-config?
[06:36] <Fezzler> anyone using a tv card with Ubunut successfully
[06:36] <IndyGunFreak> Fezzler: i am
[06:36] <Fezzler> Jordan_U: Yes, out of box is cool
[06:36] <Fezzler> Indy: Which one?
[06:36] <IndyGunFreak> uh, PVR150 i think
[06:36] <acoustyk> yea i installed the config tool
[06:36] <Fezzler> Hauppague
[06:37] <Dr_willis> Fezzler,  PVR150 here. :) works good.
[06:37] <IndyGunFreak> Fezzler: but the remote doesn't work
[06:37] <ryan52> what's the program where you can see what's going on in your network?
[06:37] <BlackCow> i did, i install ubuntu ultimate edition and it had some program pre-installed that recognized mine
[06:37] <Dr_willis> IndyGunFreak,  oh? mine used to work.. but i hate it.. so i use a wireelss keyboard.
[06:37] <kahrytan> Fezzler, avermedia is better.
[06:37] <IndyGunFreak> Dr_willis: hmm, wonder if something was wrong with mine, cuz it would neer work.
[06:37] <Fezzler> kah: Why?
[06:37] <Dr_willis> using Mythbuntu right now. :)
[06:37] <acoustyk> Dr_willis I installed the config tool but that is all that I did
[06:37] <Dr_willis> IndyGunFreak,  the remote was always like.. laggy for me.
[06:38] <nickrud> ryan52: there are several; wireshark, and etherape are useful ones
[06:38] <IndyGunFreak> Dr_willis: don't know, i just use ivtv commands in terminal to change the channel, and use VLC
[06:38] <BlackCow> i wish i could use ubuntu full time but there are to many programs that I just need windows for
[06:38] <quantumflux> wheres a good wireless support guide im noob sorry
[06:38] <nickrud> ryan52: ntop for history
[06:38] <IndyGunFreak> works awesome, plus, isnt myth qutie th resource hog
[06:38] <Rya3> hello
[06:38] <IndyGunFreak> ?
[06:38] <ryan52> thanks <nickrud>, I was thinking of wireshark
[06:38] <Fezzler> I tend to use keyboard more than remote to
[06:38] <jebblue> BlackCow like which ones
[06:38] <verve> can anyone point me to a site that details how to setup dual LCD monitors for Ubuntu?
[06:38] <verve> is that possible?
[06:38] <riotkittie> i want a remote. oh woe, oh woe is me.
[06:38] <verve> friend wants to know
[06:38] <Rya3> I'm having some trouble with my wireless connection (I'm currently plugged in to get on here)
[06:39] <BlackCow> like 3D studio max, flash, Swift 3D, and various games
[06:39] <IndyGunFreak> Fezzler: well, for me, it was out of necessity more than choice, but ymmv
[06:39] <nickrud> ryan52: ntop is a really nifty thing to find out what people are doing on your net, keeps records and sorts for you
[06:39] <riotkittie> verve: yes, its possible. i cant give you a link, but there is a good HOWTO on the forums... :|
[06:39] <Rya3> My card is recognized as an rt2500
[06:39] <acoustyk> ok (for whoever) : I installed the ntfs-3g config tool from the repository
[06:39] <riotkittie> Rya3: you poor, poor thing. <hugs you>
[06:39] <helpme342> is there any boot floppy to start ubuntu cd from external drive?
[06:39] <nickrud> !xinerama | verve
[06:39] <ubotu> verve: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[06:39] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[06:39] <Dr_willis> IndyGunFreak,  one cool thing about mythtv... recording + comercial zapping. :)
[06:39] <acoustyk> is that all I have to do for writeability?
[06:39] <g0dd3ss> hai friendz, can anyone recommend a good app for converting avi to dvd
[06:39] <Fezzler> kah: Isn't PVR150 a Hauppauge product
[06:39] <riotkittie> Rya3: is that pci? pcmia? usb?
[06:39] <IndyGunFreak> Dr_willis: yeah, i guess so, but that stuff doesn't bother m.e
[06:39] <IndyGunFreak> Fezzler: ys
[06:39] <IndyGunFreak> yes
[06:39] <SLT> quack
[06:40] <BlackCow> i know you can use wine and crap but i dont want to go through the pain so I just use windows on my primary machine and ubuntu on my laptop
[06:40] <verve> my friend said he followed this
[06:40] <verve> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174
[06:40] <verve> didn't do it for him
[06:40] <verve> (00:38:48)  Rogan: or, i can't make x do it with my hardware. i have onboard intel video, and a 256meg ATI card
[06:40] <BlackCow> i grew up with windows, im ok with it, but anyway xterm is being stupid >_< and google cant help
[06:40] <r00723r0> how do i make kexec automatically reboot instead of a warm reboot?
[06:40] <Rya3> riotkittie, it's a PCI
[06:40] <IndyGunFreak> dual monitors is easy w/ nvidia
[06:40] <Dr_willis> verve,  whats his video card? dual displays with nvidia cards is rather easy to get going.
[06:41] <jebblue> BlackCow how about Blender?
[06:41] <helpme342> any1 know?
[06:41] <Dr_willis> like 20 sec easy. :)
[06:41] <verve> Dr_willis: (00:38:48)  Rogan: or, i can't make x do it with my hardware. i have onboard intel video, and a 256meg ATI card
[06:41] <BlackCow> lol i hate blender
[06:41] <Fezzler> Will the next version of Ubuntu install right over FF?
[06:41] <r00723r0> anyone know?
[06:41] <BlackCow> ohh most un-intuitive 3D app ever
[06:41] <acoustyk> do have to unmount and remount the NTFS drive?
[06:41] <Dr_willis> 2 DIfferent video cards, one being an ati.. gets harder....
[06:41] <Fezzler> Will it do so using System Updater?
[06:41] <riotkittie> verve: doh. and thats the one i was thinking of.
[06:41] <quantumflux> is anything in /etc/modules by default? some dumass told me to echo > something to it so it got overwritten
[06:41] <verve> riotkittie: google's my fwiend
[06:41] <verve> :P
[06:41] <IndyGunFreak> Dr_willis: well, let me rephrase, its easy with 1 nvidia card
[06:41] <BlackCow> i meen its great they have a free 3d modeling app but its just... the gimp of 3D modlers imo
[06:41] <Dr_willis> its also possible the onboard shuts off when a second card gets inserted.
[06:41] <Fezzler> Blender is so Powerful it is sick!  But what a learning curve!
[06:42] <BlackCow> yeah, hell of a learning curve
[06:42] <STATMAN123> Any help on what to do when my screen just goes black when I try to run the GUI at all?
[06:42] <Dr_willis> IndyGunFreak,  heh. I havent had 2 seperate cards in a machine since... PCI video cards.
[06:42] <BlaenkDenum> !ati
[06:42] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:42] <altf2o> as with any 3D package.
[06:42] <BlackCow> besides i need Swift 3D for exporting vector animations for flash
[06:42] <nickrud> quantumflux: lp & sbp2 were in mine
[06:42] <riotkittie> Rya3: are you using feisty?
[06:42] <IndyGunFreak> Dr_willis: lol do you run dual monitors?
[06:42] <BlackCow> i use ubuntu for the programming side of me, windows for the art side lol
[06:42] <jebblue> i still haven't got close to figuring it out but i plan to one day i think it might just beat all other 3d apps out there - see that movie they did with i ?
[06:42] <Dr_willis> IndyGunFreak,  yep on one machine i got 2 monitors.
[06:42] <STATMAN123> Any help on what to do when my screen just goes black when I try to run the GUI at all?
[06:42] <Dr_willis> IndyGunFreak,  comes in handy at times.. but still its got 'quirks'
[06:42] <Rya3> riotkittie, yes
[06:42] <IndyGunFreak> Dr_willis: and you managed to get it working with ATI?
[06:43] <IndyGunFreak> Dr_willis: mine works awesome.
[06:43] <quantumflux> hmm
[06:43] <Dr_willis> IndyGunFreak,  all nvidia here now. :)
[06:43] <IndyGunFreak> ah ok.
[06:43] <Fezzler> Has anyone ever used undev?
[06:43] <BlackCow> has anyone ever been able to run photoshop on linux b4?
[06:43] <quantumflux> hm k thx nickrud
[06:43] <jebblue> BlackCow Koolmoves runs under wine just fine
[06:43] <Dr_willis> dual monitor quirks = silly app opens up a load file  requester on wrong display, or some idiot program fullscreens across both.... ect..
[06:43] <IndyGunFreak> i have a geforce 7300 GT, 512mb
[06:43] <BlackCow> koolmoves?
[06:43] <navets> can someone help me with a script
[06:43] <Dr_willis> I normally have a desktop on one ,. and Mythtv on the 2nd monitor.
[06:43] <speaker219> Anyone help? My laptop screen doesn't turn back on after i shut it and open it aagain
[06:43] <IndyGunFreak> hmm
[06:44] <jebblue> BlackCow yeah Flash program $50 bucks last time I bought it
[06:44] <verve> thanks guys
[06:44] <navets> i am trying to give my script an optional command -d
[06:44] <nickrud> don't close it
[06:44] <navets> but i keep getting errors
[06:44] <jebblue> koolmoves.com
[06:44] <speaker219> ^^ not a solution
[06:44] <Fezzler> OOPS.  Make that udev, for writing scripts that automatically run program when USB device is identified
[06:44] <BlackCow> oh right... money.... *cough*
[06:44] <BlueStreak> hey I need help. the splash screen doesn't show on startup. it's just blank
[06:45] <STATMAN123> Can anyone help me with what I believe is a video driver issue?
[06:45] <jebblue> BlackCow ? are you saying you got the Windows apps you use for free ?
[06:45] <BlackCow> no comment
[06:45] <jebblue> oh
[06:45] <g0dd3ss> hai friendz, can anyone recommend a good app for converting avi to dvd
[06:45] <riotkittie> Rya3: ralink drivers dont play well Network Manager in Feisty. You may have better luck with a manual config in /etc/network/interfaces. You can try using an alternative manager like WICD [ http://wicd.sourceforge.net/ ]  but i'm not sure if they've fixed *their* issues with ralink either
[06:45] <jebblue> BlackCow so in that case Blender has a cost right up your alley :-)
[06:45] <Fezzler> Should I install Automatix2?
[06:45] <BlackCow> im a high school student you know, i cant afford thousands of bucks, besides im non-profit, anyway i dunno if we are allowed to talk about such things
[06:46] <BlackCow> yeah but blender isnt industry standard
[06:46] <Flannel> !automatix | Fezzler
[06:46] <ubotu> Fezzler: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[06:46] <riotkittie> Rya3: you may want to consider using ndiswrapper, if you have a CD with windows drivers, or can obtain them from the manufacturers site
[06:46] <riotkittie> Fezzler: no, no, no. a thousand times no.
[06:46] <Flannel> Fezzler: Only if you enjoy reinstalling
[06:46] <BlackCow> i dunno, i guess i should get used to blender, once i can handle that i can handle anything i suppose ha
[06:46] <Fezzler> glad I asked!
[06:46] <Rya3> riotkittie, i tried once using ifconfig and iwconfig and it didn't work either, but i'll try again later with wicd
[06:47] <Fezzler> It get great reviews
[06:47] <riotkittie> or you could try building the serial monkey drivers, too.
[06:47] <jebblue> BlackCow my son put me onto Blender a while back that's how I found out about it
[06:47] <Fezzler> jebblue: Ever try Inkscape?  Very cool
[06:47] <jebblue> Fezzler oh yeah lots of fun
[06:47] <BlackCow> i met my girlfriend at a halloween party because of blender
[06:47] <jebblue> Fezzler just started sabbling
[06:47] <quantumflux> !wireless
[06:47] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:47] <jebblue> there you go!
[06:47] <Dr_willis> 'linux helped me get a girlfriend' :)
[06:48] <riotkittie> Rya3: one thing to keep in mind is that there is better support for ralink in 7.10, which will be out in about two weeks, if you're willing to upgrade
[06:48] <nickrud> rflol
[06:48] <Rya3> riotkittie, the card was given to me with no cd, but i can probably find the drivers for the card online
[06:48] <BlackCow> lol, i was talking to a friend about how i hated blender and this girl was like "yeah i know, blender is impossible"
[06:48] <BlackCow> been with her for a year lol
[06:48] <riotkittie> Rya3: which make and model is the card?
[06:48] <Rya3> riotkittie, yeah, i was planning on upgrading
[06:48] <BlueStreak> so anyone know how to help me. the splash screen doesn't show on startup. it is only blank. any suggestions???
[06:48] <jebblue> hmm ok hey that works
[06:48] <Rya3> riotkittie, i was thinking about trying it out this week actually - it's a linksys
[06:49] <nickrud> BlueStreak: everything boots all right?
[06:49] <STATMAN123> BlueStreak: I think I might have the same issue you do
[06:49] <jebblue> ok nite ya'll
[06:49] <Fezzler> sabbling?  dabbling?
[06:49] <Rya3> riotkittie, i'd have to take it out to see which model
[06:49] <BlueStreak> nickrud, yes everything works
[06:49] <zoranoth> anyone use git and/or mercurial
[06:49] <Fezzler> blue: check your permissions ..chown
[06:49] <swarm> rsync to copy files from 2 server to another is a godsend.
[06:49] <swarm> FYI
[06:50] <yngone> anyone sucessfully encrypt entire harddisk
[06:50] <yngone> swap and /
[06:50] <navets> where can I find help with C-Shell
[06:50] <riotkittie> ahhh linksys.
[06:50] <nickrud> BlueStreak: you're probably using a framebuffer on ati (I get bad terminals with that) ; try going into /boot/grub/menu.lst and removing any splash vga=  stuff on the kernel line.
[06:51] <g0dd3ss> hai friendz, can anyone recommend a good app for converting avi to dvd
[06:51] <acoustyk> alright I reinstalled the NTFS-3g config and I still cant write to my disk any ideas?
[06:51] <nickrud> BlueStreak: if that works (no splash screen but the terminal works) you might try reconfiguring your splash screen again
[06:51] <riotkittie> oh bleep. brb.
[06:51] <STATMAN123> nickrud: I have an nvidia 6150 and my screen goes black after I finish the loading bar
[06:51] <BlueStreak> yeah i changed the vga=some # and didn't help either. will deleting the line ruin my startup?
[06:52] <BlueStreak> my loading bar doesn't show
[06:52] <nickrud> STATMAN123: I don't know much at all about nvidia stuff. What I know about ati I've learned in self defense
[06:52] <nickrud> BlueStreak: not the whole line, just the splash vga=791  (or some such number) from the line
[06:52] <BlackCow> oh excelent, seems like my dad is going to be able to help with my xterm problem, he is pulling out a redhat book *shrugs*
[06:53] <quik_> hey folks
[06:53] <STATMAN123> nickrud: ok thanks anyways
[06:53] <Dr_willis> BlackCow,  "Linux - brings your faimly together"
[06:53] <quik_> I'm about to start setting up a home fileserver using ubuntu. does any one have any articles that may be of interest before I get started?
[06:54] <swarm> anyone here real familiar with nameservers, making them work, etc?
[06:54] <Dr_willis> quik_,  'using samba' - the defacto book on samba. :) its in the repos in the 'samba-doc' package
[06:54] <BlackCow> lol yes
[06:54] <swarm> i have a domain. i have a dedicated server/ip.
[06:54] <swarm> i need it to resolve properly
[06:54] <capo> is there an application like MediaMonkey for linux? meaning great for tagging and organizing audio files
[06:54] <quik_> Its going to be a fileserver, with lighttpd for serving a torrent app through http
[06:54] <quik_> Dr_willis: ha. this machine was the last windows machine in the house. its all macs now :)
[06:54] <Wolf23> heguru:  wb
[06:54] <swarm> and its kicking my ass. been trying to get it working for hours.
[06:54] <Dr_willis> quik_,  macs can use samba. :)
[06:55] <heguru> Wolf23: hey, thnx
[06:55] <Wolf23> heguru:  :)
[06:55] <quik_> Dr_willis: use a windows networking protocol between ubuntu and mac?
[06:56] <quik_> anyway, I was thinking of running it virtualised with a whole bunch of scripts for remote automation so that I can set the machine up from anywhere
[06:56] <Dr_willis> quik_,  :) well i use a mac.. for a doorstop...
[06:56] <Zilphanael> wget is not working properly; when i attempt to use it to add the medibuntu repository it says it "cannot connect to proxy url http://:8080/: invalid hostname"
[06:56] <Dr_willis> actually its been a spare dvd player lately. :)
[06:56] <quik_> or migrate it to anywhre that is
[06:56] <BlackCow> so my dad is trying to figure it out, he remembers something about set enviroment display
[06:56] <JamoSmith> how can I trouble shoot my network settings. I am receiving a static IP address from my router and can connect to it: http://192.168.0.1 but connections to sites like google are displaying cannot load page.
[06:56] <Zilphanael> how do i fix this?
[06:56] <quik_> Dr_willis: the new imac has 4gb of ram.. its teh mad note
[06:56] <nickrud> BlackCow: like I mentioned, the DISPLAY variable.
[06:57] <m0> hello, there is something wrong with my apt package manager ... I don't know why it doesn't work.
[06:57] <Dr_willis> quik_,  my imac has like 256mb of ram. :) its old.
[06:57] <BlackCow> we are trying to find the exact command
[06:57] <nickrud> m0: what error messages? put them on a pastebin
[06:57] <riotkittie> m0: can you elaborate on "doesn't work"?
[06:57] <m0> Whenever I update or remove, it asks for Java Docs
[06:57] <riotkittie> oh. nm.
[06:57] <Zilphanael> wget is not working properly; when i attempt to use it to add the medibuntu repository it says it "cannot connect to proxy url http://:8080/: invalid hostname"; how do i fix this?
[06:57] <navets> i need help with cshell, can sombody tell me where to go
[06:58] <swarm> what command you using exactly, Zilphanael?
[06:58] <m0> It is kinda strange, ever since I tried to install java 6, now I can't update anything or remove anything via update manager, or package manager
[06:58] <nickrud> m0: try sudo apt-get -f install    in a terminal
[06:58] <Zilphanael> swarm: sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/feisty.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[06:58] <acecase> anyone else using Edgy?
[06:58] <m0> nickrud: do you want me to pastebin the errror I am getting
[06:58] <JamoSmith> what can I do to trouble shoot my network settings. I am succesfully receiving a static IP address from my router and can connect to it's http interface but connections to sites like google are displaying cannot load page. I can ping the ubuntu machine from my windows machine using the static IP address
[06:58] <nickrud> m0: sure, but try the    sudo apt-get -f install   first, might just work
[06:59] <Zilphanael> swarm?
[07:00] <quik_> Dr_willis: is there anything interesting you've seen people do with a home fileserver?
[07:00] <m0> nickrud: same error if I am updating it
[07:00] <n2diy> JamoSmith: can you ping the  router with the Windows box shutdown?
[07:00] <nickrud> m0: then paste the error, plase
[07:00] <nickrud> *please
[07:00] <acecase> I just did an upgrade to 7.10 and my compiz "cube" only has 2 faces. Changing the number of desktops doesn't affect it
[07:01] <Negra> can someone suggest a good linux medi streamer?
[07:01] <m0> ls
[07:01] <m0> ls
[07:01] <Negra> i mean media streamer
[07:01] <acecase> Negra, Media streamer? if so vlc :)
[07:01] <BlackCow> so we know its setenv DISPLAY but we dont know what variables to add to it
[07:01] <m0_> nickrud: http://rafb.net/p/NpfNXT95.html
[07:02] <navets> acecase: for me beryl is way better then the new compiz
[07:02] <JamoSmith> n2diy: you're saying if I shut my windows machine down (this one) I may no longer be able to ping the router from the ubuntu machine?
[07:02] <Negra> I have a media Browser for my TV i would like to get to work on linux
[07:02] <navets> acecase: and some of the compiz updates effect beryl making it less buggy
[07:02] <m0_> nickrud: even if I try to install a new package from the manager, a new software, it complains about that error
[07:02] <silent> is it possible to have a fluxbox-like environment on compiz-fusion?
[07:02] <acecase> navets, Beryl and Compiz have become one now and Compiz is what will be developed (i think)
[07:02] <m0_> nickrud: ever since I installed JAVA 6, that complain regarding jdk-6-doc comes up, which I don't know why ...
[07:02] <n2diy> JamoSmith: no, I asked you, can you ping the  router with the Windows box shutdown?
[07:02] <nickrud> m0: then do what it says, or you can try uninstalling sun-java6-doc
[07:02] <m0_> nickrud: I did install the docs, and still complains
[07:03] <Zilphanael> wget is not working properly; when i attempt to use it to add the medibuntu repository it says it "cannot connect to proxy url http://:8080/: invalid hostname"; how do i fix this? the command i'm using is the one that's officially supposed to work, sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/feisty.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[07:03] <m0_> nickrud: I did exactly what they told me to
[07:03] <navets> acecase: yea, but compiz is buggy for me, lots of things dont work. I went back to beryl to find that a lot of the compiz bug fixes work for beryl to
[07:03] <murlidhar> help my terminal is BLAnK :(
[07:03] <navets> murlidhar: sudo terminal-white
[07:03] <navets> jk
[07:03] <JamoSmith> n2diy: I don't know, I'm using the windows box now. would you like me to try?
[07:03] <nickrud> m0: try uninstalling then. If that doesn't work, we can do some surgery
[07:04] <E-mu> Is there a way in linux to extract this file PLEASE?? "bcm43xx.cat"
[07:04] <acecase> navets, buggy is an understatement. I am hell bent on getting it fixed though. last 2 problems are the black window bug and the fact that my cube isn't a cube :)
[07:04] <E-mu> or even in windows? A command?
[07:04] <n2diy> JamoSmith: well, this is a Ubuntu channel, we don't normally troubleshoot Windows.
[07:04] <m0_> nickrud: I just said I can't install or uninstall anything :)
[07:04] <Zilphanael> wget is not working properly; when i attempt to use it to add the medibuntu repository it says it "cannot connect to proxy url http://:8080/: invalid hostname"; how do i fix this? the command i'm using is the one that's officially supposed to work, sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/feisty.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[07:04] <murlidhar> navets: where do i type
[07:04] <m0_> nickrud: when I apt-get remove ANYTHING that think pops up again
[07:05] <rico> Zilphanael, try adding --no-proxy next to wget.
[07:05] <JamoSmith> n2diy: I don't think we're understanding each other. thanks for your help I will continue experimenting and try to narrow down the issue
[07:05] <Zilphanael> rico: trying that right now
[07:05] <rico> i.e., wget --no-proxy http://www.medibuntu.org....
[07:05] <navets> acecase: yea I had some issues that almost forced me to format
[07:05] <acecase> slow down rico :) you beet me to it
[07:05] <nickrud> m0: doh :) paste the contents of /var/lib/dpkg/info/sun-java6-doc.postinst (and preinst if it exists)
[07:05] <rico> haha ace :)
[07:05] <n2diy> JamoSmith: yes, I agree, good luck.
[07:05] <BlackCow> man we have having so much trouble with this display not set
[07:05] <acecase> navets, format is such a strong word :)
[07:05] <E-mu> google search did not help
[07:05] <BlackCow> we tried export DISPLAY=0
[07:05] <m0_> nickrud: take a look here: http://rafb.net/p/bza2J489.html
[07:05] <murlidhar> navet is nothing in my terminal and gedit also doesn't work , my smplayer is  not playing anything
[07:05] <Dr_willis> quik_,  my homefileserver, is also my printserver, and mythtv box, and media server. :)
[07:06] <Zilphanael> thank you rico, it's working now
[07:06] <m0_> I don't know why JAVA is intefering with the package manager ...
[07:06] <navets> acecase: yea, luckily I was able to fix it throught the command line
[07:06] <Zilphanael> or at least it claims it is
[07:06] <quik_> Dr_willis: what are the details of your media serving?
[07:06] <Zilphanael> it's "waiting for headers" now
[07:06] <rico> well I'm getting "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: no such device" from alsamixer. anyone with a clue?
[07:06] <rico> :b
[07:06] <acecase> navets, and you said "THATS why I run Linux" rite?
[07:06] <m0_> It all happened when I installed Java 6 using installer, that now somehow, whenever I use the APT tool it goes through JAVA first
[07:06] <nickrud> m0_:  paste the contents of /var/lib/dpkg/info/sun-java6-doc.postinst (and preinst if it exists)
[07:06] <Dr_willis> quik_, its running MythTV basicially and its upnp stuff.
[07:07] <quik_> ah okay. no mythtv here
[07:07] <quik_> but I'd like to get something to replace all the players we have for one unit.
[07:07] <m0_> nickrud: http://rafb.net/p/5vSpy653.html
[07:07] <nickrud> m0_: what's happening is the packaging system is trying to complete the install of your java docs, and is failing.
[07:07] <Zilphanael> rico, it's been "waiting for headers" for two minutes or now; is that normal?
[07:08] <navets> acecase: haha yup, or I could say "lets see you do that with DOS"
[07:08] <navets> \
[07:08] <m0_> nickrud: oh, is there a way to remove that install from that list?
[07:08] <acecase> navets, and how bad does "edit" suck lol
[07:09] <n2diy> acecase: not nearly as bad as edlin!
[07:09] <nickrud> m0: ok, on line 2 of that file, put the text   exit 0   . Then     sudo dpkg --configure -a   , then sudo apt-get remove sun-java6-doc
[07:09] <navets> acecase: I love when Im sitting infront of someone in class and they see me using linux, the just drool over beryl
[07:09] <murlidhar> please somebody help me i can't access my terminal
[07:09] <acecase> n2diy, that may be why I have no idea what edlin is :)
[07:09] <acecase> navets, I like when they say "is that a mac?" :)
[07:10] <n2diy> acecase: edlin was edits predecessor, and you had to use line numbering.
[07:10] <acecase> n2diy, yuck
[07:10] <m0_> nickrud: Hmm i accidently forced closed the apt console window so now it says dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[07:10] <navets> acecase: haha, I had a TA give me perfect on one of my codes without even looking at it, I just showed him beryl and he wrote down everything I told him
[07:10] <n2diy> acecase: ah, the good old days, NOT.
[07:11] <Some_Person> How can I get the program "F77" (not G77)?
[07:11] <acecase> lol
[07:11] <nickrud> m0_: try   sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[07:11] <m0_> nickrud: I killed the lock
[07:12] <nickrud> m0_: good guess :)
[07:12] <m0_> nickrud: [1] +  Killed                  sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:12] <m0_> I ran it
[07:12] <m0_> seems to work now
[07:13] <druke> what is the chown parameters to make something read/write-able by all?
[07:13] <Dr_willis> druke,  by ALL? 777 for the chmod...
[07:13] <nickrud> druke: chmod +rwx <file>
[07:13] <Dr_willis> not chown
[07:13] <Some_Person> How can I get the program "F77" (not G77)?
[07:13] <Dr_willis> thats not a good thing to do. :)
[07:13] <druke> ah chmod
[07:13] <acecase> I will say, however, while my cube is a flat 2 sided board, it does look cool. Sucks since I actually use 3 desktops though.
[07:13] <m0_> nickrud: excellent :) It works now, thanks for helping me through it
[07:14] <Dr_willis> Some_Person,  and whats wrong with G77? i thought it was compatiable with F77?
[07:14] <Dr_willis> !info g77
[07:14] <ubotu> g77: The GNU Fortran 77 compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.4.6-20ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1 kB, installed size 40 kB
[07:14] <nickrud> m0_: np, I probably should have said we'd try from least intrusive to most
[07:14] <murlidhar> ./quit
[07:14] <m0_> nickrud: it was bugging me from the past 3 weeks , now I can update
[07:15] <Some_Person> Dr_willis: I got something here that doesn't like G77
[07:15] <acecase> lol and now my screen just dimmed about 10% for no apparent reason :) Still have some work to do
[07:15] <m0_> nickrud: how does ubuntu keep track of failed installs?
[07:16] <m0_> nickrud: is there a way to find out all that?
[07:16] <rjm1982> acecase, you know that the sides of the cube is easily changed, right? (i have a triangle for mine...)
[07:16] <acecase> rjm1982, I'm sure there is a setting but I can't seem to find it. I assumed it was by changing the number of desktops
[07:16] <n2diy> m0_, most likely in /etc/apt/cache?
[07:17] <nickrud> m0_: I've never studied the internals of dpkg; just the methods it exposes
[07:17] <nickrud> m0_: but I do believe all it's state data is kept in /var/lib/dpkg
[07:17] <acecase> rjm1982, Beryl manager was has been depricated with 7.10 so I don't have it anymore
[07:18] <acecase> and has was been too :)
[07:18] <rjm1982> acecase, its "Horizontal Virtual Size"
[07:18] <nickrud> acecase: in   ccsm , general options, desktop size  think
[07:19] <acecase> rjm1982, thanks.
[07:19] <acecase> nickrud, thanks :)
[07:19] <nickrud> acecase: erm nm
[07:19] <quik_> I have a machine with many different sized harddrives, is there anyway that I can offer it as a single volume?
[07:19] <rjm1982> nickrud, almost!  "Desktop Size" is the tab, and in that tab, "Horizontal Virtual Size" is the option :)
[07:20] <acecase> rjm1982, that did it. thanks
[07:20] <nickrud> quik_: never used it, but LVM is designed for that. Can't do more than point you at ti
[07:20] <nickrud> *it
[07:20] <acecase> nickrud, that is where the setting is :)
[07:20] <quik_> nickrud: okay. thats a starting point though I guess ;)
[07:20] <Gustavo> hello
[07:20] <nickrud> quik_: Logical Volume Manager , that is
[07:21] <nickrud> acecase: ah, memory is such a fickle thing :)
[07:21] <DARKGuy> Hey guys, could anybody help me here with VNC and some crazy X setup? here, I have two video cards and two monitors attached to this computer. Main being :0 with GF4 and Secondary being :1 with a Trident PCI 4Mb card. So far I've been able to start X on Secondary without it interfering my input and video with :0 (successfully made with assigning void devices to keyboard & mouse for the Secondary X layout). However, I seem to have no way to control the s
[07:21] <DARKGuy> econdary display! I can start x11vnc on it, but when I try to connect it doesn't do anything unless I switch to F8 then back to F7, where I see the connection stabilished and I can move the mouse for a few seconds, then it stops and I must F8-F7 again for it to "refresh"... it's like it's getting the events when I make the switch, but it must do it always! :/... I've tried x11vnc with the -bg options but that doesn't seem to work, neither x2vnc. Any hel
[07:21] <DARKGuy> p guys? I really need it :(
[07:21] <nickrud> badderty is dieing, night all
[07:21] <nickrud> lol
[07:22] <amunra> Is there a way to recreate a default 'xorg.conf' file? - is it ---- 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' ?
[07:23] <DARKGuy> The command I'm using to staring the secondary display is "xinit -- :1 -sharevts -novtswitch". x11vnc works if I set it up as a different display on the same device (:0, GF4) but it doesn't if I set it up for the secondary display with -sharevts and -novtswitch)
[07:23] <rjm1982> amunra, If there is one, I've never found it.. :)  which is why the first thing i do now, after an install, is "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/xorg.conf.back"   :)
[07:23] <rjm1982> Ive messed up my xorg.conf so many times
[07:24] <open-gl> can someone check my thread and see if i did everything correct
[07:24] <open-gl> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=565107
[07:24] <andruk> totem wont play dvds for me, "there is no plugin to handle this move: dvd:/".  help?
[07:24] <Daggoth> Hey guys, I'm new to Ubuntu and Linux in general, I'm trying to set up a partition, but I'm having difficulties. When I use the 'Install' utility on the Ubuntu desktop, I can only choose 'Manual' from the partition creation list. It's the only choice there. When I click next, I am confronted by a blank partition creation screen, and for that reason cannot proceed, can anyone help?
[07:24] <rob> !codecs | andruk
[07:24] <ubotu> andruk: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:24] <amunra> rjm1982: Hah, well my problem is that my backups of Xorg are Slackware based.. and it seems as if they do not play nice with Ubuntu (Being Debian based...) -- I thought it would have worked :(
[07:25] <peter_> can anyone help my pair my bluetooth devices with ubuntu......i'm having problems pairing ....
[07:26] <rjm1982> amunra, ive seen people recommend "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" before, but have never tried it myself...
[07:26] <amunra> for the future --- dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will help you, you must be sudo ;)
[07:26] <elekfs> ya, i just reconfigured xserver that way
[07:26] <elekfs> worked like a charm
[07:27] <amunra> rjm1982: It works like a charm.. however make sure you know your monitors stats... you can break it if you do not know what your doing with V/H'sync'refresh'es...
[07:27] <rjm1982> well, sweet then... its officially added to my bag of tricks
[07:27] <Daggoth> Hey guys, I'm new to Ubuntu and Linux in general, I'm trying to set up a partition, but I'm having difficulties. When I use the 'Install' utility on the Ubuntu desktop, I can only choose 'Manual' from the partition creation list. It's the only choice there. When I click next, I am confronted by a blank partition creation screen, and for that reason cannot proceed, can anyone help?
[07:27] <a514> Hi does the ClamTK update work? 3.04
[07:27] <peter_>  can anyone help my pair my bluetooth devices with ubuntu......i'm having problems pairing ....
[07:27] <ivanhoe> anyone knows how to use cnr in ubuntu
[07:27] <amunra> rjm1982: :D
[07:28] <amunra> anyways... time to restart gdm
[07:28] <rjm1982> Most of my fights in linux have revolved around that damned file...  though everything is great now with it... :)  (ati + dual screen + compiz-fusion)
[07:28] <Daggoth> Any help here?
[07:28] <ivanhoe> whats your problme daggoth?
[07:28] <peter_>  can anyone help my pair my bluetooth devices with ubuntu......i'm having problems pairing ....
[07:28] <Daggoth> Alright, I'm currently running Ubuntu off a live disc
[07:28] <rjm1982> Daggoth, I've ran into that before... and after fighting and fighting with it, realized that I had burned a bad disk
[07:29] <Daggoth> Really?
[07:29] <Daggoth> I've burned two.
[07:29] <Daggoth> But I've only tried it with one.
[07:30] <knoppix> hello
[07:30] <rjm1982> install gparted
[07:30] <knoppix> how are you
[07:30] <Daggoth> Me?
[07:30] <knoppix> yes
[07:30] <knoppix> asl?
[07:30] <rjm1982> and do the partitioning before the install
[07:30] <Daggoth> Oh, ok.
[07:30] <knoppix> no
[07:30] <Daggoth> Thanks
[07:30] <knoppix> im running on live cd
[07:30] <knoppix> asl?
[07:30] <knoppix> hello
[07:30] <knoppix> can someone see me ?
[07:30] <rjm1982> What os are you running aside from linux? (windows)
[07:30] <Daggoth> XP
[07:30] <knoppix> windows
[07:31] <knoppix> xp
[07:31] <Daggoth> Media Center Edition
[07:31] <rjm1982> ah...ok...
[07:31] <knoppix> professional
[07:31] <n2diy> 98se
[07:31] <knoppix> help  me
[07:31] <rjm1982> Vista has awesome partitioning built in.... one thing they did right :)
[07:31] <knoppix> help/?
[07:31] <DShepherd> t
[07:31] <peter_> bluetooth help anyone ?
[07:31] <knoppix> ye
[07:31] <knoppix> hello
[07:31] <n2diy> knoppix: do you have a question?
[07:31] <Daggoth> Uhhh...
[07:32] <knoppix> yes
[07:32] <Daggoth> RJM, new to Linux here, but learning. How do I install it?
[07:32] <knoppix> im new to the live cd
[07:32] <knoppix> will need help
[07:32] <Daggoth> I downloaded it.
[07:32] <knoppix> im confused
[07:32] <riotkittie> !enter
[07:32] <rjm1982> Daggoth "sudo apt-get install gparted"
[07:32] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:32] <riotkittie> heh.
[07:32] <knoppix> are you there
[07:32] <DARKGuy> Hey guys, could anybody help me here with VNC and some crazy X setup? here, I have two video cards and two monitors attached to this computer. Main being :0 with GF4 and Secondary being :1 with a Trident PCI 4Mb card. So far I've been able to start X on Secondary without it interfering my input and video with :0 (successfully made with assigning void devices to keyboard & mouse for the Secondary X layout). However, I seem to have no way to control the s
[07:32] <DARKGuy> econdary display! I can start x11vnc on it, but when I try to connect it doesn't do anything unless I switch to F8 then back to F7, where I see the connection stabilished and I can move the mouse for a few seconds, then it stops and I must F8-F7 again for it to "refresh"... it's like it's getting the events when I make the switch, but it must do it always! :/... I've tried x11vnc with the -bg options but that doesn't seem to work, neither x2vnc. Any hel
[07:32] <DARKGuy> p guys? I really need it :(... The command I'm using to staring the secondary display is "xinit -- :1 -sharevts -novtswitch". x11vnc works if I set it up as a different display on the same device (:0, GF4) but it doesn't if I set it up for the secondary display with -sharevts and -novtswitch)
[07:32] <rjm1982> been away from irc too long, how the heck do you ignore someone?
[07:32] <altf2o> Daggoth: unless you have a spare hard drive, or are decent w/ something like "Partition Magic" i'd highly recommend using VMWare to do a test run.
[07:33] <Daggoth> What do you mean, Alt?
[07:33] <knoppix> @
[07:33] <knoppix> what
[07:33] <knoppix> ?
[07:33] <n2diy> knoppix: do you have a question?
[07:33] <riotkittie> i'd hope so.
[07:33] <altf2o> Daggoth: it's very easy to install Ubuntu, however, it's also very easy to clobber existing installations if you're a first time Linux user. Or even a novice user of any kind.
[07:33] <a514> is anyone using clamtk?
[07:33] <Daggoth> Oh, and when I run gparted, I am told that since it can be used as a weapon of mass destruction, only root can run it.
[07:33] <peter_>  can anyone help my pair my bluetooth devices with ubuntu......i'm having problems pairing ....
[07:34] <speaker219> I am using cookies.
[07:34] <riotkittie> Ubuntu makes it fairly difficult to clobber things, IMO
[07:34] <riotkittie> with the guided partitioning and all of that.
[07:34] <rjm1982> Daggoth ... hes right, the obligatory "you can mess things up bad" applies here, however, its not difficult if you just take your time and think about what you are doing ...
[07:34] <n2diy> riotkittie: yes, but when it does, it does it well. :)
[07:35] <Daggoth> It's about 12:30 AM over here, so I'm trying to install before I go to sleep.
[07:35] <g0dd3ss> hai friendz, can anyone recommend a good app for converting avi to dvd
[07:35] <riotkittie> n2diy: i'd put money on the fact that more often than not, its /user/ error :P
[07:35] <DShepherd> Daggoth, why not just try the other cd first. its 12:30 am here too.
[07:35] <Daggoth> I will.
[07:35] <rjm1982> Yeah, try the other first
[07:35] <riotkittie> though i have had some issues with ubuntu installs <shakes fist>
[07:36] <Daggoth> Be back in a few. Wish me luck.
[07:36] <rjm1982> Dagoth
[07:36] <Daggoth> Hmm?
[07:36] <n2diy> riotkittie: yes, and a good reason not to run as root.
[07:36] <rjm1982> also... before you do all of this, keep in mind that 7.10 is almost out (10 days) and its MUCH better
[07:36] <rjm1982> so if you can stand to wait...
[07:36] <Daggoth> True...
[07:36] <Daggoth> But still...
[07:37] <DShepherd> go for it Daggoth :-)... unless you want to wait
[07:37] <riotkittie> yea, but he can install now, and get acquainted, then just do a dist-upgrade :P
[07:37] <Daggoth> If I do this, I can just do a system update, and it will give me time to learn the workings of linux.
[07:37] <riotkittie> that's the spirit.
[07:37] <rjm1982> Daggoth, I know... ive installed ubuntu like 4 times this week on various machines...  I almost have more fun installing and tinkering with the damned things than i do using them :)
[07:37] <rjm1982> Daggoth, true...
[07:37] <Daggoth> Yeah, it really is a great feeling.
[07:37] <riotkittie> ok. stupid question time. :D:
[07:38] <andruk> i still cant play dvds...  done the stuff in ubotu's codecs section and ubuntuguide.  any more help out there?
[07:38] <Negra> is there a multimedia support channel
[07:38] <rjm1982> but be careful, i did the update to 78.10 beta and it hosed my system, but my setup is complex (ati, dual screen, compiz fusion)
[07:38] <silent> hey guys, I'm wondering what the best package to set up my printing through a dlink printserver would be... I've done it before but have since forgotten
[07:38] <n2diy> 78.10?
[07:38] <riotkittie> andruk: can you elaborate? why can't you play them? do you get errors? do... ?
[07:38] <DShepherd> Negra, whats your problem?
[07:38] <Sweeper> andruk: what are you using?
[07:38] <rjm1982> oops, fat finger syndrome ... 78.10 = 7.10
[07:38] <peter_>  can anyone help my pair my bluetooth devices with ubuntu......i'm having problems pairing ....
[07:39] <Negra> I have a home multimedia server I would like to sent multimedia to
[07:39] <xcst> !wine
[07:39] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[07:39] <andruk> I am using totem, and the error is "There is no plugin to handle this movie".  I am trying to play collatoral from blockbuster.
[07:39] <riotkittie> n2diy: yes, some weird going ons in the space-time continuum. :P
[07:39] <n2diy> peter_: apparently not, have you tried google for your answer?
[07:40] <peter_> i've tried google buddy ...over and over  again
[07:40] <peter_> thats why i'm here now
[07:40] <rjm1982> daggoth, also... if the disc change doesnt work, if you have to run gparted, do "gksudo gparted"
[07:40] <n2diy> riotkittie: oh no, are we being assimulated?
[07:40] <rjm1982> damn, missed by a second
[07:40] <Negra> but it not a PC its a TV box type of thing
[07:41] <riotkittie> andruk: try another player? :|
[07:41] <riotkittie> n2diy: i could tell you, but... i bet you like the suspense :P
[07:41] <rjm1982> peter, what are you trying to pair... in my experience, some things will work right away, and some wont, and I've never been able to make something work that doesnt want to.
[07:41] <DShepherd> andruk, gxine maybe? try mplayer too..
[07:41] <DShepherd> !media | andruk
[07:41] <ubotu> andruk: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[07:42] <riotkittie> andruk: and you have installed gstreamer plugins? bad? ugly?
[07:42] <peter_> i'm trying to pair my caell phone with ubuntu fiesty , the phone sees ubuntu but when i put the code in ....it fails to connect
[07:42] <andruk> DShepard: i have tried gxine.  i can give you the error it throws if you wish.
[07:43] <n2diy> riotkittie: I don't like supenses, but surprises are fun.:)
[07:44] <DShepherd> andruk, installed libdvdcss2 alread? did you install gstreamer plugins? bad ugly?
[07:44] <peter_> how can i do a GUI search for bluetooth devices ?
[07:45] <n2diy> riotkittie: The Phillies gave me more suspense than I can deal with, but they ran out of surprises. :)  :(
[07:46] <Forager> Please help: I just installed v.7.04 and my Linksys Instant Gigabit card is not working.
[07:46] <DShepherd> peter_,have you tried this page? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup. I have no experience with bluetooth stuff.
[07:46] <riotkittie> cat phillies > /dev/null
[07:47] <n2diy> Forager: wireless, laptop, etc...?
[07:47] <andruk> DShepard: libdvdcss - yes.  gstreamer plugins - yes.
[07:47] <Forager> Wired, Desktop.
[07:47] <riotkittie> i am still in shock over the crushing collapse of my team. :|
[07:47] <n2diy> Forager: include my nick when you reply, or I might miss your replies. Does the NIC light up?
[07:48] <Forager> n2diy: Wired NIC in a desktop.
[07:48] <alecwh> I just got back from the bus stop... someone left their laptop next to the bench. I took it (so a malicious person didn't) and brought it home, and it's using Xubuntu. How do I find out who it belongs to?
[07:48] <peter_> yes i have seen that page ......over and over again lol
[07:48] <DShepherd> andruk, have you tried vlc?
[07:48] <peter_> but thanks anyway
[07:48] <DShepherd> peter_, oh ok. sorry
[07:48] <n2diy> Forager: any activity from the LEDs?
[07:48] <Tomcat_> alecwh: Check the evolution address book
[07:48] <tech-mike> sup peeps
[07:48] <alecwh> Tomcat_: I can't. I can't login.
[07:48] <Tomcat_> Oh. Right. :)
[07:49] <Forager> n2diy LED act OK
[07:49] <alecwh> anyone?
[07:49] <DShepherd> peter_, you could try search the ubuntu forums then...
[07:49] <andruk> DShepard: currently installing
[07:49] <peter_> been there done that :)
[07:49] <riotkittie> alecwh: >> boot with a live CD, mount the HD
[07:49] <silviu> alecwh: go with the laptop to the autorithies
[07:49] <rjm1982> alecwh, I'd say you have yourself a new laptop...  You tried, but unless there is some info on it for you to see...  not much you can do
[07:49] <Tomcat_> alecwh: Use a LiveCD, make a copy of the most important files, then try to check the evo adressbook or something.
[07:49] <DShepherd> peter_, well my friend.. I am all out of bright ideas
[07:49] <n2diy> Forager: what are you talking to? A Router, Modem...?
[07:49] <Tomcat_> alecwh: Or make flyers and put them up at the bus stop.
[07:49] <peter_> well....me too :(
[07:49] <alecwh> I've posted on craigslist, I'll give the police a call tomorrow morning.
[07:49] <Forager> n2diy: Link act light's blinging very fast, WRTP54G router registers a connection and has assigned an IP address.
[07:50] <riotkittie> alecwh: you are so totally awesome, btw, for trying to track the owner down.
[07:50] <alecwh> Tomcat_: Good idea, I'll just leave a note.
[07:50] <peter_> i'll keep trying google
[07:50] <n2diy> Forager: Ok, can you ping the router?
[07:50] <riotkittie> how could someone forget a laptop?!?!  the mind, it boggles.
[07:50] <Forager> n2diy: no.
[07:50] <n2diy> Forager: Ok, can you ping the router? And you know its IP?
[07:51] <alecwh> I'm going to boot up a live cd, see if I can get anything. I don't want to destroy it though, might be important stuff. Thanks for your help everyone.
[07:51] <riotkittie> that is so awesome of him. this is why i love ubuntu. :P
[07:51] <Forager> n2diy: Cannot ping router.  "Destination Hust unreachable."
[07:51] <rjm1982> peter_, if you havent tried, when looking on google, look for it with other distros, you know, put fedora, suse, etc in the search ... adding "linux" barely helps as you get a ton more reslts, but looking by distro helps, and looking for diff distros give some more results too, and forums, and the process shouldnt be really different if you can just get a good start on an idea...
[07:52] <riotkittie> aw come on you guys, group hug. <hides>
[07:52] <n2diy> Forager: Shutdown your firewall, and see if you can ping it.
[07:54] <Hilikus> i have a shell script ran by cron that i want to log so i redirect the output but theres no timestamp, how can i add a timestamp?
[07:54] <n2diy> hugs, what happened?
[07:55] <DShepherd> Hilikus, the 'date' command?
[07:55] <Hilikus> but is there a way to add it to every redirected line or something?
[07:56] <Forager> n2diy:  Router should be allowing the anonymous pings, and I do not have firestarter set up in ubuntu.
[07:57] <n2diy> Forager: install Firestarter, ipchains is loaded and running.
[07:58] <briggsy> hello everyone
[07:58] <Forager> n2diy: That's available in the CD, right?
[07:58] <cdm10> I just noticed the !stages factoid mentioned in #ubuntu+1. Do kernel updates for released versions of Ubuntu run the risk of breaking X?
[07:58] <n2diy> Forager: I don't know, I DLed it with Synaptic.
[07:59] <andruk> vlc was the only one that could play dvds.  and i didnt get any sound
[07:59] <briggsy> does anyone have a minute to answer a question to a small problem that i am having or is there a better place for me to be asking questions
[07:59] <rjm1982> briggsy, just ask :)
[07:59] <briggsy> sry im a bit new to linux and this may be something that you guys can fix in a second but im still trying to grasp linux
[08:00] <DShepherd> Hilikus, i guess so.. ask big bro google for examples...
[08:00] <DShepherd> ok.. I am out. its late here.. bedtime!
[08:00] <DShepherd> night people!
[08:00] <rjm1982> briggsy, its cool, we all start out as newbs... :)
[08:01] <briggsy> basically my problem is since the last time i restarted i've been having trouble with my computer recognizing graphic files
[08:01] <briggsy> i had a .jpg as my background and it is not there anymore
[08:01] <briggsy> and whenever i go to try and select a background my OS is no recognizing any image giletypes
[08:01] <briggsy> filetypes*
[08:02] <cdm10> Has anyone here been spammed by ag3nt99 ?
[08:02] <rjm1982> briggsy ... that one might be over my head (im still semi-newb)
[08:02] <cdm10> When I joined, I received several spam messages.
[08:02] <briggsy> alright thanks for listening to the problem at least
[08:03] <rjm1982> briggsy, I would check for broken packages...  try running (from the terminal) "sudo apt-get install -f"
[08:03] <n2diy> how do you shutdown Ipchains from the CLI?
[08:03] <rjm1982> tech-mike, trillian linux-native now, or through wine?
[08:03] <tech-mike> wine
[08:04] <silent> I should install wine again
[08:04] <silent> what's the repo for it?
[08:04] <tech-mike> but i read someone had probs with aim so i only loaded my y! accounts
[08:04] <rjm1982> i just have a very negative opinion towards wine for some reason....
[08:04] <briggsy> no problems with packages rjm1982
[08:04] <Forager> n2diy: I need another option.  My Ubuntu can't DL anything.
[08:05] <rjm1982> briggsy, sorry then, thats all I got. :)
[08:05] <n2diy> Forager: I just asked the groug, "who do you shutdown Ipchains from the CLI?
[08:05] <coldsteal> hello
[08:06] <Kr0ntab> briggsy, this is probably a simple issue.  if you download another jpg to yer home directory... see if you can browse to it with your file manager.
[08:06] <n2diy> Forager: I group
[08:06] <coldsteal> is there a way to start the live cd installer with an ncurses installer instead?
[08:06] <n2diy> how do you shutdown Ipchains from the CLI?
[08:07] <Kr0ntab> n2diy, ipchains or iptables?
[08:07] <bulmer> if it was iptables, you dont shut it down, you flush the rules
[08:07] <Kr0ntab> you can use the -F option... of course using sudo.
[08:07] <Kr0ntab> sudo iptables -F
[08:07] <n2diy> Kr0ntab: The latest one, which I thought was Ipchains?
[08:08] <Kr0ntab> ipchains is legacy... iptables is currently what you want to use.
[08:08] <briggsy> Kr0ntab i can see it in my file viewer, but it is when i want to select an image through the change desktop background
[08:09] <n2diy> Ok, bad N2DIY, bad, bad, bad....
[08:09] <novato_br> anybody knows about (Ketsumeishi )--(Sakura ) ?
[08:09] <coldsteal> what is the alternate cd?
[08:09] <n2diy> ! ja
[08:09] <ubotu>  #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp 
[08:10] <rjm1982> -- not so much on topic, but does anyone know a good source for wide (dual screen) wallpapers?
[08:10] <jarrod_> coldsteal: the install disk w/o the graphics
[08:10] <Kr0ntab> briggsy, if you right click on the file... select open with Image Viewer
[08:10] <briggsy> yea i can see it
[08:10] <coldsteal> jarrod_: but does it install X and grub?
[08:10] <briggsy> but when i try to apply as background it doesn't do anything
[08:10] <jarrod_> coldsteal: if you are talking about the desktop verison, yes
[08:11] <jarrod_> !livedisk
[08:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about livedisk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:11] <tech-mike> rjm1982 try deviantart.com
[08:11] <coldsteal> jarrod_: would this be the desktop or server http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/ubuntu-7.10-beta-alternate-i386.iso
[08:12] <rjm1982> tech-mike, im actually browsing there now...  not much ever changes on there these days (nothing good at least) :)  i need to boot into windows and jump into 3ds max for a bit and make a new one, i guess
[08:12] <Kr0ntab> briggsy, where are you aplying it as a background?  while in image viewer... go to image menu and "set as wallpaper".  does you background stay a certain color?
[08:13] <tech-mike> rjm1982 digitalblosphemy.com
[08:13] <Forager> n2diy: tried sudo iptables -F, no effect.
[08:13] <Sarah> hey guys, i cant install the nvidia driver from nvidia.com
[08:13] <jarrod_> coldsteal: id bet about 5 bucks on that being desktop
[08:13] <Sarah> it tells me some random thing about X server
[08:14] <cdm10> Sarah: That's not how you're supposed to install it. Go to System>Administration>Restricted Drivers Manager and install it from there.
[08:14] <coldsteal> jarrod_: lol thanks
[08:14] <Sarah> no no
[08:14] <Sarah> i have an 8800gts, a bug in 7.04 means i have to mod the driver manualy then run the executable
[08:14] <jarrod_> tech-mike: ever heard of background translations for the 3-d desktop?
[08:14] <Plutoprim1> how do I unhide a buddys pidgin icon?
[08:14] <jarrod_> coldsteal: no problem
[08:14] <Plutoprim1> I'm gonna submit a bug report
[08:14] <Sarah> so i moded it
[08:14] <Plutoprim1> this is annoying
[08:14] <Sarah> and have to run the app
[08:14] <Plutoprim1> it's relaly easy to hide an icon
[08:14] <n2diy> Forager: Bad dope, should be something like /etc/services/?????? restart, stop, start, etc...
[08:15] <tech-mike> jarrod_ not sure
[08:15] <Plutoprim1> just right click on it
[08:15] <cdm10> !enter | everyone
[08:15] <ubotu> everyone: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:15] <Plutoprim1> but to unhide....
[08:15] <Plutoprim1> man
[08:15] <Sarah> but its telling me i cant run it in x server
[08:15] <cdm10> Sarah: Don't install that way.
[08:16] <cdm10> Sarah: Do it through System>Admin>Restricted Drivers Manager.
[08:16] <Sarah> i told u, to install the driver for an 8800gts i have to mod the driver manualy, i did now i have to run the executable without X
[08:16] <Sarah> i tried that and it didnt let me, a bug IN UBUNTU is preventing me from using the restricted drivers
[08:17] <Sarah> its actualy the kernal im using that the bug is in
[08:17] <Sarah> -> proof
[08:17] <Sarah> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20/+bug/98641
[08:18] <Sarah> so how to i run it, when i goto failsafe terminal it doesnt work
[08:18] <cdm10> !enter | Sarah
[08:18] <ubotu> Sarah: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:18] <Sarah> ok ok
[08:19] <cdm10> Sarah: I'm not sure how to help you, sorry. Maybe you should ask again a bit later, but mention why you're installing from the site rather than from Restricted Drivers in the original message.
[08:19] <x89x> hello everyonr. Is there any site i can find help for C-Sharp ??
[08:19] <Sarah> OMG!! i told U!!! https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20/+bug/98641
[08:19] <jarrod_> simmer down
[08:19] <Kr0ntab> sarah.. calm down.
[08:19] <Sweeper> ZOMG
[08:20] <Sweeper> DORAMA
[08:20] <rob> x89x, #c# maybe?
[08:20] <Sarah> lol a bug in ubuntu that doesnt let me install it
[08:20] <x89x> in this channel rob ?
[08:20] <x89x> i mean this network ?
[08:20] <jarrod_> instead of a gui package contained a bobcat
[08:20] <rob> x89x, yeah
[08:20] <x89x> lemme see
[08:20] <cdm10> Sarah: I realize that you've told me. I'm telling you that if you ask a bit later, but mention everything that you've mentioned to me right from the start, more people might be able to help you.
[08:20] <rob> x89x, we do have a few windows/microsoft channels here
[08:20] <Sarah> ok fine
[08:21] <Sarah> then does anyone here know how to update the kernel of 7.04?
[08:22] <Forager> n2diy: I"ve skimmed the man iptables.  I have no idea what you're telling me to do.
[08:22] <rob> Sarah, the problem does appear to be fixed in Gutsy, so just wait a couple of weeks.
[08:22] <jarrod_> 11 days :D
[08:22] <n2diy> Forager: Bad dope, should be something like /etc/services/?????? restart, stop, start, etc...
[08:22] <usser> jarrod_: ahah u do countdown?
[08:22] <Sarah> yea, but its a kernel problem and i have exams for a few weeks so i dont think i will have time
[08:22] <Sarah> :(
[08:23] <rob> Sarah, there are mentions of patches and fixes on there too, try them.
[08:23] <briggsy> Kr0ntab, i can apply a background directly from a site. but it seems that i cannot select images using the "change desktop background"
[08:23] <jarrod_> usser well there is a big counter on the ubuntu home page
[08:23] <Sarah> i have
[08:23] <josemb> from puerto rico
[08:23] <rob> Sarah, okay, well you will just have to wait, ranting in here isn't going to help.
[08:23] <Forager> n2diy: Bad Dope?  I don't have that directory, /etc/services.
[08:24] <Sarah> oh, the fix i did and it said to have worked ive completed but dont know how to install :(
[08:24] <rob> Sarah, do the open source drivers work? Just put up with them in the mean time if they do.
[08:24] <n2diy> how do you shutdown Ipchains from the CLI? Reply to Forager
[08:24] <n2diy> or Ip tables
[08:24] <jarrod_> sarah: im totally unable to help, but what is this driver for?
[08:24] <Sarah> they dont, its a kernel problem so ill try update that
[08:24] <PirateHead> Ubuntu is reporting a bogus audio CD and printing a bunch of stuff to stderr, complaining about "hdc: drive not ready for command" and it's bogging my system down. Can anybody help me fix it?
[08:25] <PirateHead> By bogus, I mean there
[08:25] <Sarah> jarrod: a nvidia 8800gts 640mb card on ubuntu
[08:25] <PirateHead> By bogus, I mean there's an audio CD on the desktop but nothing in the drive, nor was there ever anything in the drive.
[08:26] <rjm1982> PirateHead, right click the icon and unmount it?
[08:26] <jarrod_> sarah for all of your linux gaming :D?
[08:26] <PirateHead> rjm1982: if only it were something that easy to fix. :-) I've tried all the obvious things.
[08:26] <Sarah> haha, i get better FPS on linux when i play CS
[08:26] <Sarah> and most games
[08:27] <n2diy> Sarah: I thought you where studying? :)
[08:27] <PirateHead> That's awesome, Sarah. I'm hoping to get CS:Source working on my linux box, but haven't had time yet. I assume you can play at LANs without a lot of fuss?
[08:27] <jarrod_> lol
[08:27] <k3nz0o> hey Ubuntu people
[08:27] <jarrod_> hey
[08:27] <briggsy> if i could get starcraft, and counterstrike source working for linux i would never need windows again...lol
[08:28] <Forager> The FreeBSD website has a driver that has my NIC included in it's supported hardware.  it's re(4).  How do i get that installed in Ubuntu?
[08:28] <PirateHead> Forager: either find and install the package for it, or find build instructions and get your dependencies sorted out.
[08:29] <k3nz0o> is skystar2 pci card work in Ubuntu?
[08:29] <rjm1982> My gaming happens on the 360, made leaving windows behind much easier :)
[08:29] <n2diy> Forager: what packages formats is it offered in?
[08:29] <jarrod_> briggsy: if only, im about neck deep in dependant software over here
[08:29] <Sarah> PirateHead: NO FUSs! smooth as a charm, only driver issues and driect sound (fixed when u port the windows DLLS over to the wine emulated drive
[08:29] <rjm1982> well, 3d Studio Max and Photoshop keep me in windows...
[08:29] <PirateHead> Ubuntu is reporting a bogus audio CD and printing a bunch of stuff to stderr, complaining about "hdc: drive not ready for command" and it's bogging my system down. Can anybody help me fix it?
[08:30] <briggsy> rjm1982 you left windows but your still a microsoft slave
[08:30] <rjm1982> briggsy, not a slave at all.  I chose the 360 because its a great system
[08:30] <heartsblood> !gutsy
[08:30] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[08:30] <PirateHead> k3nz0o: the best way to find out is to download a LiveCD and see for yourself. :-)
[08:30] <jarrod_> rjm1982: yea ps runs in wine, but I just cant deal with it like that
[08:30] <PirateHead> k3nz0o: are you a Windows user?
[08:31] <rjm1982> jarrod_ ... yeah, and not cs3
[08:31] <rjm1982> and people that give me the "use gimp" make me laugh...
[08:31] <jarrod_> rjm1982: wow rjm1982: is now known as moneybags
[08:31] <usser> rjm1982: use xara )
[08:31] <k3nz0o> i have triple boot here ,, Ubuntu windows and BackTrack2
[08:32] <usser> rjm1982: its vector but wth for that matter ))
[08:32] <briggsy> rjm1982 i dunno i chose PS3 because i hate microsoft and i have been a Playstation fan since it started
[08:32] <rjm1982> jarrod_ I didnt buy it...company did :)
[08:32] <PirateHead> briggsy: I hate Sony as much as Microsoft. They're both turds.
[08:33] <silent> how might I add the shutdown ability under Desktop?
[08:33] <Sarah> once i sort out this driver issue
[08:33] <briggsy> PirateHead then what console games do you play if any...Nintendo???
[08:33] <Sarah> im so playing my crysis MP beta
[08:33] <rjm1982> I think hating MS is just the cool thing to do now...its easier to hate them than to acknowledge the good things they have done...  but i digress..
[08:33] <PirateHead> briggsy: PC games only.
[08:34] <usser> its always easier to hate
[08:34] <rjm1982> When PC games have a centralized online setup like Live, then I might come back...but not before that
[08:34] <PirateHead> briggsy: my brother has a PS1 and PS2 that I play games on sometimes, but I haven't for awhile.
[08:34] <Sarah> lol linux has better dx10 suppo\rt then xp
[08:34] <usser> Sarah: HA
[08:35] <jarrod_> sarah: too much bash for me, I didnt even see the o
[08:36] <Forager> n2diy:  It's not packaged independantly.  I'll have to ask for it from the developer team.
[08:36] <silent> is Crysis native to linux?
[08:37] <PirateHead> rjm1982: Good things that Microsoft has done... like what? Are we talking really truly good things, or just bullying that makes them big and powerful?
[08:37] <silent> or are you cedega'ing?
[08:37] <jarrod_> !microsoft
[08:37] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[08:37] <n2diy> Forager: you lost me, what isn't packaged?
[08:37] <jarrod_> nvm
[08:38] <rjm1982> PirateHead ... you think they would be big and powerful, and people would have bought their product if it werent the best?  Remember, the early PC users werent like now, they were tech people, and they all went MS
[08:38] <jarrod_> I remember it saying something funny at one time...
[08:38] <silent> PirateHead, sorry to tell you this but a lot of linux development has occured directly because of windows competition
[08:38] <silent> particularly in the server industry
[08:38] <Wolf23> Guys i need a help!
[08:38] <Forager> n2diy: re(4), the NIC driver that freeBSD uses to support my network interface.  I was hoping it would be available to be added somehow into ubunto because they're both BSD.
[08:38] <Forager> wait.. Ubunto id Debian..
[08:39] <Forager> Forager is an ID10T
[08:39] <magnetron> !offtopic | rjm1982 PirateHead
[08:39] <PirateHead> silent: there's no denying that competition from Microsoft pushes Linux forward, and it's true that competition is needed to keep any market from stagnating.
[08:39] <ubotu> rjm1982 PirateHead: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:39] <PirateHead> Ubuntu is reporting a bogus audio CD and printing a bunch of stuff to stderr, complaining about "hdc: drive not ready for command" and it's bogging my system down. Can anybody help me fix it?
[08:40] <n2diy> Forager: what is the full file names? any .deb or .rpm?
[08:40] <silent> software would be nowhere near as advanced today if not for microsoft... albeit very patchy/sketchy programs
[08:40] <rjm1982> Magnetron, thanks for jumping into a conversation that you played no part in, and for picking a single person out of all of us ... good on you, hope you feel a little more important
[08:40] <Forager> n2diy.  There aren't any.
[08:40] <Forager> n2diy:  they aren't available as seperate downloads.
[08:40] <silent> magnetron, I totally missed that. Of course I usually ignore ubotu anyway
[08:41] <jarrod_> here is a good question: why cant i use dolphin to view lan servers? ie \\192.168.1.whatever
[08:41] <silent> jarrod, is that smb?
[08:41] <magnetron> rjm1982: it's an interesting discussion. please take it in #ubuntu-offtopic . Thank you.
[08:41] <jarrod_> smb = samba then yes
Germany's railway system would not be near as advanced today if not for Adolf Hitler, but that doesn't mean that Hitler's reign as a whole had a good influence on Germany</godwin>
[08:41] <n2diy> Forager: ??? Usually NICs are well supported, check for typos in your searches.
[08:41] <silent> jarrod_, what is dolphin?
[08:41] <Wolf23> somebody help me?
[08:41] <Sweeper> PirateHead ftw
[08:42] <briggsy> PirateHead well said
[08:42] <jarrod_> !dolphin
[08:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dolphin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:42] <magnetron> Sweeper, PirateHead: godwin's law!
[08:42] <Forager> n2diy: I have.  Ubunto does not support my NIC natively.
[08:42] <silent> PirateHead, are you sure about that?
[08:42] <jarrod_> dolphin is the new kde file browser but it goes for all ubuntu file browser
[08:42] <n2diy> Forager: so go for a .dep or .rpm
[08:42] <magnetron> PirateHead: please continue this in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[08:42] <usser> silent: thats a fact
[08:43] <silent> usser, You're totally right, germany would have gotten out of that much debt eventually. burning money as fuel doesnt sound like a failing economy at all
[08:43] <jarrod_> whats the law that states thats there is a limited amount of time untill itself comes up?
[08:44] <Forager> n2diy: i do have the files that ship with the NIC, which includes Linux files...
[08:44] <PirateHead> Godwin's law says that in any online argument, the probability that somebody will make a Hitler reference approaches 1 as the argument gets longer.
[08:44] <Forager> n2diy:  But I'm not sure how to use them properly.
[08:44] <pete83> jarrod_: that is Murphhy's Law
[08:44] <darkchr0n0s> how do i set a label for a partition ?
[08:45] <n2diy> Forager: what version of linux are you running?
[08:45] <darkchr0n0s> i am already using it..
[08:45] <Forager> ubuntu 7.04
[08:45] <magnetron> PirateHead, silent, usser: you are WAY offtopic. take it top #ubuntu-offtopic !
[08:45] <Forager> oops..  n2diy: ubuntu 7.04
[08:45] <silent> PirateHead, well honestly, every event has an impact that branches through time. Chances are you wouldnt be alive had Hitler not started ww2
[08:45] <PirateHead> Ubuntu is reporting a bogus audio CD and printing a bunch of stuff to stderr, complaining about "hdc: drive not ready for command" and it's bogging my system down. Can anybody help me fix it?
[08:45] <darkchr0n0s> magnetron : how do i set a label for a partition ?
[08:46] <silent> PirateHead, how much impact does that have on our conversation? It's existence.
[08:46] <n2diy> Forager: are you familiar with Synaptic?
[08:46] <rjm1982> slient, Now you're sliding into chaos theory.. :)
[08:46] <silent> rjm1982, yep
[08:47] <silent> rjm1982, however, it is more obvious that a cmoplex event such as ww2 would have a larger impact
[08:47] <Sweeper> PirateHead: try killing hald and see if that stops it
[08:47] <silent> rjm1982, as opposed to a butterfly's wings
[08:47] <Sweeper> and then look for other things in ps -e to kill
[08:47] <PirateHead> Sweeper: how do I kill hald, and will that make my system unstable?
[08:47] <jarrod_> magnetron what DOESNT hitler have to do with ubuntu, think about it
[08:47] <Sweeper> PirateHead: kill -9 (pid)
[08:47] <heartsblood> why would mozilla crash when If I type 'crash report detected' in the serach box?
[08:47] <Sweeper> it might
[08:47] <n2diy> Forager: are you familiar with Synaptic?
[08:47] <jarrod_> magnetron wait nvm....
[08:47] <rjm1982> jarrod_, we would have to be high to answer such a question... :)
[08:48] <Sweeper> but if it fixes it, it at least gives you somewhere to start :)
[08:48] <magnetron> !offtopic
[08:48] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:48] <Forager> n2diy: somewhat.  I know how to evoke it and find things in my library.
[08:48] <silent> magnetron, stop spamming that crap, keep this channel functional </irony>
[08:48] <rjm1982> magnetron, all of your messages have been about us being off topic, so you, yourself, are off topic
[08:48] <n2diy> Forager: have you enabled the optional repos?
[08:48] <PirateHead> Sweeper: killing hald did not affect the problem.
[08:49] <Sweeper> hmmmm
[08:49] <silent> rjm1982, I think he just likes messing with ubotu... makes him feel warm and fuzzy and important inside
[08:49] <Sweeper> there should be a way to find out what's accessing your drive..
[08:49] <jarrod_> where do i remove the # to take off the CD as a repos?
[08:49] <magnetron> rjm1982, silent: support questions and answers about ubuntu are ontopic here. the rest isn't. please accept this fact
[08:49] <rjm1982> silent : Napoleon Compled :)
[08:49] <Sweeper> run "top" and tell me what's in the top 10
[08:49] <PirateHead> Sweeper: it's important to note that there is nothing in my drive in the first place.
[08:49] <Sweeper> PirateHead: I realize this!
[08:49] <rjm1982> magnetron, you are not an op.  Please accept this fact
[08:50] <bluebanana> Hi. Please help. Are the 2 cables on (1) http://peek.snurl.com/1rv7k and (2) http://peek.snurl.com/1rv7m EXACTLY the same?
[08:50] <rjm1982> grr, "Complex"
[08:50] <pete83> rjm1982, but if you point out that he is hypocritically off-topic, you yourself are also off-topic
[08:50] <n2diy> Forager: have you enabled the optional repos?
[08:50] <Sweeper> pete83: meta-meta-meta?
[08:50] <pete83> Sweeper: Yes.
[08:50] <rjm1982> pete83, im exponentially off-topic apparently
[08:50] <PirateHead> the top 10 are firefox-bin, xgl, Xorg, init, migration/0, ksoftirqd/0, watchdog0, events/0, khelper, kthread
[08:50] <silent> hehe
[08:50] <Forager> n2diy: The only repository I have is the installation CD.
[08:51] <silent> magnetron, you are out of order
[08:51] <silent> fsck magnetron
[08:51] <ferronica> how to change Usplash in ubuntu 7.04 ?
[08:51] <PirateHead> ferronica, google it
[08:52] <rjm1982> PirateHead: thats a dickhead response... be nice
[08:52] <silent> ferronica, I swear.... if there is an answer on the internet for anything, google knows
[08:52] <n2diy> Forager: Ok, you mentioned that, so your night installed, just running live?
[08:52] <rjm1982> If google worked, this forum wouldnt exist
[08:52] <briggsy> it would still exist it just may not have anybody asking anything of substance in it
[08:53] <Forager> n2diy:  No, I'm installed. Fisty, Grub, the whole 9 yards.
[08:53] <PirateHead> rjm1982: I wanted to change usplash on 7.04 a few months ago, googled it, and figured it out within 5 minutes. I could google it again in order to advise ferronica, or I could just advise him to google it himself and come back here if he needs more help. That's my reasoning, take it or leave it.
[08:53] <silent> rjm1982, only because reading forums take too much time ;P. People are lazy... err like efficiency when they troubleshoot
[08:53] <rjm1982> silent: i think people would rather interact with others, rather than just read a bunch of ad-ridden forum crap
[08:53] <silent> rjm1982, that too
[08:54] <noz3r0> Hello
[08:54] <rjm1982> i said "Rather" too much
[08:54] <Sweeper> PirateHead: I dunno man, it looks like SOMETHING is trying to mount your non-existent cd drive. try putting a cd in and see what happens?
[08:54] <silent> rjm1982, but I will admit that most of the questions asked, Particularly the "newbie questions" could be answered with a simple google search
[08:54] <g0dd3ss> hai friendz, someoone know a good app that will compare 2 folders and spit out a list of the differences?
[08:54] <n2diy> Forager: And you can run Synaptic, but it only sources the CD?
[08:55] <silent> rjm1982, "how do I get to terminal??!?!?!??!??!11oneeleven"
[08:55] <rjm1982> silent: true...  but I don't mind that, I never have...  I've banned alot of people from forums for going "search it" ... though
[08:55] <magnetron> g0dd3ss: i'm not sure, but i guess diff could do it
[08:55] <noz3r0> lol @ silent
[08:55] <Forager> n2diy: correct.
[08:55] <rjm1982> silent:  tilda!  :)
[08:55] <PirateHead> Sweeper: the legitimate CD is not recognized.
[08:55] <rjm1982> actually, tilda goes to crap with xompiz on
[08:56] <rjm1982> compix
[08:56] <rjm1982> ...damnit.  im tired
[08:56] <g0dd3ss> oooo I see, lol, scuse teh nooobyness! thanks  magnetron
[08:56] <silent> rjm1982, effort is what separates the people who will learn, from the people who will copy. When a person comes into the channel and is given a bunch of stuff he/she doesn't understand.. copies it into console and goes, they learn nothing
[08:56] <silent> whereas through research they could figure out WHY that command works
[08:57] <rjm1982> silent: isn't that the point of ubuntu, though, that people dont HAVE to learn, it just works?
[08:57] <n2diy> Forager: Edit/Configure Synaptic to go out in the wild. It is all drop boxes and check boxes, with a mouse.
[08:57] <dissection> When I play videos, the colors are messed up, and there is a big green bar on the left. How do I fix that? It plays fine on my other system running Ubuntu
[08:57] <PirateHead> rjm1982: that's the point of Ubuntu, not Ubuntu troubleshooting =D
[08:57] <pete83> silent: "give a man a fish..." is another way of putting it
[08:57] <rjm1982> silent: i mean, if you want to learn, roll your own slackware, thats a hell of an experience :)
[08:58] <PirateHead> pete83: a fire works as a better example. Give a man a fire, he'll be warm for one night. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
[08:58] <cdm10> Does anyone here remember a kernel update in Feisty once that changed people's drive paths (like, changing /dev/sda to /dev/hda)
[08:58] <silent> rjm1982, yes, I see that as a serious downside for the os. particularly through this point of transition, where it is almost configurable without terminal, but then only the hardest things need to be configured through console
[08:58] <silent> making it difficult for people who use the gui only
[08:58] <noz3r0> If I have non-compatible hardware for Ubuntu but I dual-boot it with Windows XP can I modify said hardware through Ubuntu because Windows recognizes it?
[08:59] <novato_br> hi dudes, how can I get the access mirrors repositories ?
[08:59] <cdm10> noz3r0: I'm not sure I understand what you're asking.
[08:59] <silent> noz3r0, sounds like voodoo windows/linux compatibility to me
[08:59] <pete83> PirateHead: haha, or spiders: give a man a spider, and he'll have a spider for a week; but drown a man in a sea of poisonous spiders, and he'll have spiders the rest of his life
[08:59] <rjm1982> silent: actually, i love the terminal...  my mom uses ubuntu, when i need to fix something (shes in CA, im in VA) i can tell her exactly what to type in the console, much faster than telling her how to do it in gui...  no "what button?  i dont see that button!" :D
[08:59] <silent> rjm1982, better yet, get her IP and ssh in
[08:59] <n2diy> Forager:Good night, good luck.
[09:00] <PirateHead> pete83, you have taken it too far. =P
[09:00] <rjm1982> silent: i would, but they use a damned Apple airport mini, and i cant for the life of me figure out port forwarding on it :)
[09:00] <noz3r0> Like lets say Ubuntu doesn't read one of my video cards because I have them crossfired, can I still modify settings on the card via Ubuntu even though it doesnt recognize it but Windows does
[09:00] <Forager> n2diy:  Thanks.
[09:00] <noz3r0> ^^hope that makes sense
[09:00] <silent> rjm1982, oh those Apple devices
[09:00] <n2diy> Forager:Good night, good luck.
[09:00] <cdm10> noz3r0: What do you mean by modify settings on the card?
[09:01] <cdm10> noz3r0: Ubuntu's not going to break any of your hardware for Windows, if that's what you're asking.
[09:01] <noz3r0> can I open my nvidia panel and edit it
[09:01] <fouad> Hi, anyone know a free database design application for linux ?
[09:01] <Negra> what is a good upnp media server for linux?
[09:01] <Forager> n2diy:  Thyanks fo rthe help.  Good night.
[09:01] <PirateHead> noz3r0: Windows and Ubuntu will keep their own separate copies of video card settings, so modifying the settings on one operating system will not affect its performance on the other.
[09:01] <rjm1982> silent: i'm very much love-hate with that thing...its a pain as a router, but for the music streaming its genious
[09:01] <noz3r0> thank you PirateHead
[09:01] <dissection> When I play videos in totem, the colors are messed up, and there is a big green bar on the left. How do I fix that? It plays fine on my other system running Ubuntu
[09:01] <cdm10> noz3r0: And by the way, Ubuntu DOES support nVidia.
[09:02] <silent> rjm1982, apple is a tradeoff... You know it's going to work... but the extent to which it can extend its functionality tends to be limited
[09:02] <PirateHead> cdm10: he said that he couldn't get Ubuntu to work with more than one of his cards because they are crossfired, meaning that they need special firmware to interact with each other optimally.
[09:02] <noz3r0> I figured it supports basically everything I just like to make sure of loopholes because on Wednesday when my HDD arrives I'm dual booting
[09:02] <fouad> dissection, did you install Beryl ?
[09:02] <pete83> dissection: go to terminal, and type "gstreamer-properties", and change the video mode
[09:02] <PirateHead> cdm10: I'm not sure that Ubuntu supports advanced card features like that.
[09:02] <cdm10> PirateHead: ah, ok.
[09:02] <k3nz0o> Guy Ubuntu Expert ,, I have OrbiCam , with Mircodia chipset ,, I can not make my webcam work
[09:02] <rjm1982> silent: agreed :)
[09:02] <Negra> can anyone suggest a good upnp media server for linux?
[09:02] <noz3r0> But yeah PirateHead got me on that one, I appreciate it
[09:03] <dissection> fouad: I did for a few minutes yesterday, hated it, and uninstalled it.
[09:03] <silent> I'm out guys, gonna catch some ZzZz's
[09:03] <PirateHead> k3nz0o: Webcams are notoriously bad with Linux. Good luck. =D
[09:03] <noz3r0> night
[09:03] <silent> have a good one
[09:03] <fouad> dissection, yeah go to gstream-properties and choose X11 video mode
[09:03] <rjm1982> nytwe
[09:03] <fouad> should fix your problem
[09:03] <k3nz0o> PirateHead , what a professional answer , thanks
[09:04] <PirateHead> k3nz0o: if I had something helpful to say, I would. All I know is that webcams, in particular, are notorious in that regard.
[09:04] <dissection> fouad: still the same
[09:04] <novato_br> anybody saw beryl running on chipset video VIA ?
[09:04] <Negra> has any one used GMediaServer?
[09:04] <novato_br> is it possible?
[09:05] <pete83> dissection: then use the package "totem-xine"
[09:05] <fouad> dissection, does it do the same problem with all videos ?
[09:05] <k3nz0o> i never hear VIA has VGA card
[09:05] <ubuntu_> ?
[09:05] <Negra> can anyone suggest a good upnp media server for linux?
[09:06] <dissection> fouad: I haven't tried another video, but this same video plays fine on my other system running Ubuntu.
[09:06] <fouad> oh ok
[09:06] <PirateHead> k3nz0o: It might not actually be hopeless in your case: googling your request gave me some links to people who got Orbicams working.
[09:06] <novato_br> wow, VIA
[09:06] <novato_br> its a chipset
[09:06] <novato_br> VIA technology
[09:06] <fouad> dissection, in that case I have no idea , really sorry for that. Maybe you should post your problem on the ubuntu forum
[09:08] <k3nz0o> some said at Ubuntuforum.org Orbicam work with gspca driver  but not in my own experience
[09:08] <novato_br> is it possible to run beryl on chipset VIA video card ?
[09:08] <Forager> When using make, wahat does error 2 mean?
[09:09] <PirateHead> k3nz0o: try sending an email to the maintainers of the gspca driver, and search through their mailing list archives. Maybe there's a patch floating around for your specific webcam model.
[09:09] <dissection> pete83: totem-xine fixed the problem. Whats the difference between gstreamer and xine?
[09:09] <dotjay> how Am i supposed to open rar 3.0 files
[09:10] <pete83> dissection: they're just different, I don't know exactly why xine sometimes works better
[09:10] <PirateHead> dotjay: you can probably use file-roller, and if that doesn't work, you can download a free copy of RARlabs software and use that.
[09:10] <k3nz0o> i just found that someone has develop the driver sn9xxc but it a commerial driver
[09:11] <dotjay> how can i install the rar or unrar from the tbz?
[09:11] <k3nz0o> www.linux-project.org
[09:11] <dissection> dotjay: 7zip is there in your repo that lets you unrar.
[09:12] <magnetron> dotjay: it's compressed with the bz2 tool
[09:13] <dotjay> dissection:how to add the repo of 7zip in my synaptic Package manager?
[09:13] <hal14450_> dotjay, sudo apt-get install unrar
[09:13] <PirateHead> dotjay: synaptic is not needed. Just use add/remove programs.
[09:13] <heguru> Worlf23: hello, any luck with gnokii?
[09:13] <dotjay> hey but unrar i already installed it
[09:14] <dotjay> but it oly supports the versions below 3.0
[09:14] <hal14450_> dotjay, man unrar
[09:14] <hal14450_> unrar e first.filename.rar
[09:14] <jdong> hal14450_: I doubt unrar has 3.0 support...
[09:15] <dotjay> yeah it doesnt support that the unrar i have is frre one
[09:15] <hal14450_> oh?
[09:15] <jdong> hal14450_: currently only the nonfree and shareware versions support it
[09:16] <dotjay> jdong: yeah and it doesnt support encrypted files
[09:16] <jdong> dotjay: are you usning the "unrar" package from Multiverse?
[09:16] <PirateHead> RAR needs to die. We have 7z anyway.
[09:17] <jdong> PirateHead: sometimes you and I have no control over the formats we receive
[09:17] <dotjay> but how ami supposed to install 7zip
[09:17] <alecwh> I've got a small problem. The "window list" panel preferences dialog doesn't have a size option (where you can set minwidth and maxwidth) Screenshot: http://img527.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotwindowlistprept1.png Can someone help?
[09:17] <jdong> PirateHead: and RAR still has a competitive advantage over 7z....
[09:17] <Sarah> i guess i have to swap over to fedora core
[09:17] <PirateHead> jdong: those are both true. it's too bad.
[09:17] <jdong> dotjay: the "unrar" command installed by package unrar in Multiverse supports rar 3.0 specs and encryption to the best of my knowledge...
[09:18] <Forager> I need help troubleshooting a NIC.
[09:18] <darkchr0n0s> Forager shoot.. some1 will die ;)
[09:18] <PirateHead> !NIC
[09:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nic - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:18] <jdong> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/file-roller/+bug/44958/comments/2
[09:18] <jdong> this comment is a good comparison of all the Ubuntu RAR extractors
[09:19] <xcst> can someone help me in installing ms office in ubuntu
[09:19] <xcst> =)
[09:19] <darkchr0n0s> jdong : doesn't make much of a difference unless you are mass unraring
[09:19] <darkchr0n0s> xcst : use open office
[09:19] <jdong> darkchr0n0s: what doesn't make much difference?
[09:19] <Forager> darkchr0n0s: thanks...  I'm running Fisty on a desktop tower and I can't get my linksys instant gigabit NIC (eg1032v3) working.
[09:20] <cerneula> hi everyone. I am new to Ubuntu. How can I change the default appearance of desktop icons? File icons are rather big and PDFs and images are huge previews. I would like to change all that. THank you very much!
[09:21] <Negra> can anyone suggest a good upnp media server for linux?
[09:21] <mmc> how to tell apt to use  files in the /etc/apt/sources.list.d  directory?
[09:21] <PirateHead> I would like to know how to do that stuff too, cerneula. If you don't get a satisfactory answer about how to do it with Gnome (Ubuntu's default desktop environment), I suggest that you give Xfce a try.
[09:22] <cerneula> pirateHead: thank you, but I'm sure there must be a way. Ubuntu is incredible
[09:22] <xcst> theres an error in my open office
[09:22] <xcst> it always crashes
[09:23] <PirateHead> cerneula: There certainly is a way, but it is probably not a trivial thing. Are you new to Linux, or just to Gnome, or just to Ubuntu?
[09:23] <markdarb> Hi all. A quick question: if I install Gutsy Beta, will it be easy enough to upgrade to the final release once it comes out?
[09:23] <Crush`> is it possible to check to see if a file has 'duration: 2' and 'duration: 3' on alternating lines?
[09:23] <jdong> markdarb: sure, just apply all system updates and it'll be Gutsy Final
[09:24] <LinuxJuggalo> !gutsy | markdarb
[09:24] <darkchr0n0s> Forager : try this http://www.linuxcompatible.org/Linksys_Gigabit_Network_Adapter_EG1032_v3_c12430.html#12348 (i am not sure if this will work or not)
[09:24] <markdarb> jdong: Thanks.
[09:24] <ubotu> markdarb: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[09:24] <cerneula> PirateHead: well when I used Linux 7/8 years ago and I have always followed its development, although I have not been using it. But I am new to ubuntu
[09:25] <geek> hi
[09:25] <cerneula> PirateHead: I have been looking around myself for an answer, but so far nothing. I just can't believe there is no easy way to change that
[09:25] <PirateHead> cerneula: well, Ubuntu implements an icon theme using Gnome, so in order to replace the icons with smaller ones, you'll need to research the way that Gnome handles icon themes and then find (or create from scratch) a suitable replacement.
[09:26] <geek> some chanel in spanish?
[09:26] <PirateHead> !es | gek
[09:26] <ubotu> gek: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:26] <geek> thanks
[09:26] <PirateHead> np
[09:27] <Negra> can anyone suggest a good upnp media server for linux?
[09:27] <cerneula> PirateHead: thank you I haven't actually realised what happens when you change the icon theme. hold on...
[09:28] <kenjy_> Friends, I finish bought a new computer, what is better to do?, to wait to the new version ubuntu or to install the 7.0.4 and soon to update to 7.10? I can update to 7,10 in a transparent way?
[09:29] <PirateHead> kenjy_: what kind of computer? =D
[09:29] <cerneula> PirateHead: it remains the same, icons change but their size not, and huge PDF and images previews stay the same, this is what I find more annoying
[09:29] <kenjy_> PirateHead amd sempron 1.6ghz, 512mb of ram and 120gb of hd
[09:29] <Negra> does any body here have D-Lin dsm 320?
[09:29] <Negra> I mean a D-Link DSM 320
[09:29] <loftroffle> simple stupid question:
[09:30] <loftroffle> how do I find out what version of ubuntu is running from the command line/
[09:30] <quik_> has anyone ever used "naslite+"
[09:30] <quik_> ?
[09:30] <PirateHead> kenjy_: If you want to install Ubuntu now, you can either go with 7.04 or with the presently realeased 7.10 beta (either one will be easy to upgrade to 7.10 final)
[09:30] <loftroffle> like
[09:30] <loftroffle> how can I find out what version of ubuntu I'm on on a VPS
[09:31] <loftroffle> where the MOTD doesn't tell me anything
[09:31] <kenjy_> PirateHead: I don't wanna install a beta, then I should wait?
[09:31] <LinuxJuggalo> loftroffle: uname -a
[09:31] <kenjy_> loftroffle, what kind of VPS? VirtualBox, openvz, linux vserver ...
[09:31] <loftroffle> LinuxJuggalo: damn, that didn't tell me anything :(
[09:31] <loftroffle> umm
[09:32] <PirateHead> kenjy_: If you're going to be using it as a server, or a "business critical machine", then I would wait.
[09:32] <kenjy_> PirateHead: its my sisters PC
[09:32] <kenjy_> PirateHead ... Ubuntu its not for servers
[09:32] <loftroffle> kenjy_: it's OpenVZ it seems
[09:32] <PirateHead> kenjy_: Ubuntu has a whole distro dedicated to server deployments, actually.
[09:32] <kenjy_> loftroffle: Cool I use it in the work :D
[09:33] <LinuxJuggalo> kenjy_: ubuntu is for both servers and desktops
[09:33] <drekko> loftroffle: cat /etc/lsb-release
[09:33] <loftroffle> yeah it's a $10/mo deal
[09:33] <mechdave> kenjy_, , why is that?
[09:33] <PirateHead> kenjy_: There should be no problem installing 7.10 and upgrading it in a week or two, though.
[09:33] <kenjy_> PirateHead: Ubuntu have a small professional packages support and a pour secure implementation
[09:33] <loftroffle> ah ok it's 6.06
[09:33] <xcst> can someone help me
[09:33] <xcst> my openoffice crashes
[09:33] <PirateHead> !help : xcst
[09:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help : xcst - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:33] <PirateHead> eh
[09:33] <loftroffle> was hoping it'd be a newer one but ah well I can upgrade at some point if I need to I guess XD
[09:33] <PirateHead> xcst: is there debugging output?
[09:34] <kenjy_> PirateHead: When I upgrade from one version to another the system its downgraded?
[09:34] <PirateHead> kenjy_: the system undergoes many changes during an upgrade, but none of them would be accurately described as downgrades.
[09:35] <_HetArgje_> 6c6c6c6c6c
[09:35] <kenjy_> PirateHead: Then if I wanna a pure system I should reinstall my ubuntu in a week?
[09:35] <xcst> files just wont open
[09:35] <xcst> it just wanted to always recover and recover it
[09:35] <PirateHead> kenjy_: if you want it to wipe your harddive, then sure you can do a reinsall. If at the end of the week you would rather upgrade the system than replace it, you can simply run a distro-upgrade.
[09:36] <Forager> Darkchr0n0s: does this mean anything to you? : Enable CONFIG_NS83820 (National Semiconduct DP83820 support)
[09:36] <PirateHead> xcst: is the file corrupted?
[09:36] <xcst> nope
[09:36] <kenjy_> ok
[09:37] <xcst> im thinking if i reinstall open office
[09:37] <xcst> would it work?
[09:38] <kenjy_> tnks PirateHead: I hope that after 3 or 4 distro-upgrades my system continue working, some one here have a ubuntu 4.10 growt to 7.0.4?
[09:39] <arnducky> xorg!
[09:39] <PirateHead> kenjy_: I'm not sure quite what you're asking, but my system has survived two distro upgrades (dapper->edgy, edgy->feisty)
[09:40] <kenjy_> survived? jaja
[09:40] <CokeNCode> hey guys ... just screwed my xorg.conf file
[09:40] <CokeNCode> how ...
[09:40] <swarm> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:40] <CokeNCode> do i copy the back up created
[09:40] <CokeNCode> swarm ... that's what screwed it
[09:40] <swarm> oh cool :)
[09:41] <CokeNCode> now ... how do i copy the backup ... xorg.conf.2001 etc
[09:41] <CokeNCode> to rename it as xorg.conf
[09:41] <Forager> does anyone know what this means? "Enable CONFIG_NS83820 (National Semiconduct DP83820 support)"
[09:41] <compreak219> mv /etc/x11/xorg.conf /etc/x11/xorg.backup  (or wherever you put it)
[09:41] <CokeNCode> everytime i try to rename the xorg.conf file ... to xorg.bak
[09:41] <CokeNCode> and then rename the backup to xorg.conf
[09:41] <Negra> has any one here used GMediaServer?
[09:41] <CokeNCode> i get an error saying 'bareword xorg not allowed'
[09:42] <compreak219> name it like, xorg.conf.back
[09:42] <CokeNCode> 'while strict subs in use (at eval 1) line 1
[09:42] <CokeNCode> compreak219 it won't let me rename the xorg.conf file period
[09:42] <compreak219> cp xorg.conf  xorg.conf.back
[09:42] <compreak219> do that
[09:43] <CokeNCode> compreak219 shouldn't that be the other way around ?
[09:43] <compreak219> errr
[09:43] <CokeNCode> if i'm trying to restore the xorg.conf gile
[09:43] <oasisfai> why beryl alway locking with aiglx enable in feisty?
[09:43] <CokeNCode> *file
[09:43] <CokeNCode> from xorg.conf.20010092
[09:43] <CokeNCode> ?
[09:43] <compreak219> rm xorg.conf,  cp xorg.conf.back xorg.conf
[09:43] <compreak219> delete it first, then copy it over
[09:44] <tabman> I updated by Ubuntu 6.06 with system updates and after that my mouse isn't working properly, seems like driver is not compatible anymore or something like that ?
[09:44] <compreak219> sudo rm xorg.conf  if it'll let you
[09:44] <CokeNCode> hmmm
[09:44] <CokeNCode> thanks
[09:44] <CokeNCode> yeh, i was logged in as root
[09:44] <compreak219> k
[09:44] <CokeNCode> i thought it would let me rename the back up file
[09:44] <CokeNCode> to xorg.conf tho
[09:44] <CokeNCode> why didn't it ?
[09:44] <CokeNCode> didn't realise i'd have to use the copy command
[09:45] <compreak219> idk, i always just copy that file
[09:45] <compreak219> never tried renaming it
[09:45] <CokeNCode> ah yes ... sweet ... and now a cntrl + alt + backspace fixes everything
[09:45] <CokeNCode> thanks guys :D
[09:45] <compreak219> heh good deal
[09:46] <CokeNCode> wonder why the rename didn't work tho ... how odd
[09:46] <Forager> how can I force a NIC to use IPv4 and NOT IPv6?
[09:46] <compreak219> dunno
[09:46] <MeRodent> CokeNCode, what command did you use to rename?  it should be mv
[09:47] <CokeNCode> MeRodent i used 'rename' ... :$
[09:47] <CokeNCode> is that depricated or something ?
[09:47] <CokeNCode> or just the totally wrong command
[09:47] <MeRodent> CokeNCode, the command to rename in unix / linux is mv (ie move)
[09:47] <astro76> CokeNCode, rename is a program to do batch renaming
[09:48] <quantumflux> how can i increase my touchpad speed & disable the double touch = click?
[09:48] <heguru> quantumflux: install gsynaptics
[09:48] <Stinkfly> hi
[09:48] <riotkittie> oh yea. gsynaptics. i forgot about that one
[09:48] <CokeNCode> astro76 thanks ... just read the man page ... and realised the first argument was actually not a filename
[09:48] <CokeNCode> thanks
[09:48] <CokeNCode> that explains the weird error message
[09:49] <astro76> quantumflux, gsynaptics... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[09:49] <CokeNCode> first expression it takes is a rule
[09:49] <CokeNCode> hmm
[09:49] <Stinkfly> any way to get the sims 2 working on kubuntu fiesty?
[09:49] <CokeNCode> *expression = argument
[09:49] <CokeNCode> thanks guys
[09:49] <quantumflux> kool thanx astro76
[09:49] <CokeNCode> learned a lot today
[09:49] <Ahadiel> I get this error when starting evolution: http://pastebin.com/m6ec8c1ff
[09:49] <Forager> how can I force a NIC to use IPv4 and NOT IPv6?
[09:49] <Ahadiel> Any thoughts?
[09:56] <LinuxJuggalo> Stinkfly: install wine
[09:56] <LinuxJuggalo> !wine | Stinkfly
[09:56] <ubotu> Stinkfly: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[09:56] <Stinkfly> i know but some stuff don't work
[09:56] <DraconPern> is the ATI Mobility Radeon X1300 supported in 7.10?
[09:57] <Forager> does anyone know how I can force a NIC to use IPv4 and NOT IPv6?
[09:57] <LinuxJuggalo> Stinkfly: are you using x86 or x64?
[09:57] <DraconPern> I am running the 7.10 beta, but I don't see compiz fusion working...
[09:57] <Stinkfly> me: x86
[09:58] <LinuxJuggalo> Stinkfly: weird, maybe using another windows emulator installed from source then?
[09:58] <loftroffle> aww dammit
[09:58] <loftroffle> i installed lighttpd
[09:58] <loftroffle> on accident
[09:58] <Stinkfly> ... would bochs work?
[09:58] <Forager> gnu
[09:58] <loftroffle> and now it has taken over for apache
[09:58] <loftroffle> how do I get rid of it and give control of port 80 back to apache :x
[09:59] <fark0> This is 100% the wrong place to be right now, but I am absolutely clueless.
[09:59] <fark0> I am a Linux novice, at best - I am quite stuck.
[10:00] <mindrape> loftroffle - sudo netstat -tulp to confirm it really is lighthttpd which took over port 80... then kill its process, start up apache, and edit your config to keep it from autostarting
[10:00] <mindrape> fark0 - what troubles you?
[10:00] <MeRodent> fark0, I guess there's a point you'll get to when you explain your problem?
[10:00] <fark0> @MeRodent: My apologies Rodent, I didn't mean to be leading, simply considering the best way to start.
[10:00] <fark0> What does the make command do?
[10:00] <fark0> Does it throw something into the compiler?
[10:01] <fark0> I managed to get a C compiler up and running (for some reason didn't come standard with OpenSuSE 10.2))
[10:01] <Slart> fark0: that's one of the better explanations of make I've heard in a long time =)
[10:01] <LinuxJuggalo> !suse | fark0
[10:01] <ubotu> fark0: Other !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)
[10:01] <chaplin89> hi to all..
[10:01] <mindrape> fark0 - usually you ./configure         make            make install         when dealing with a .tar.gz file
[10:02] <fark0> Hm..thank you both.
[10:02] <mindrape> fark0 - but yeah... basically make automagically compiles things for you.  ;)
[10:02] <loftroffle> mindrape: thanks, I htink i killed it :)
[10:02] <fark0> Okay, so, -hypothetically-.
[10:02] <fark0> Let's assume I have a BitchX directory that I untarred and unzipped.
[10:02] <Slart> fark0: make is, afaik, something that makes compilings lots of stuff easier.. you might call it a script-language/tool for compiling
[10:02] <fark0> @Slart: Ty :)
[10:02] <LinuxJuggalo> !make | fark0
[10:02] <ubotu> fark0: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:03] <Plutoprim1> Make is a disaster
[10:03] <chaplin89> I've a problem, if i try to compile something, I get this error "C compiler cannot create executables"..does anyone can help me? (sorry for my bad english..i'm italian)
[10:03] <Plutoprim1> it's a h&p of old legacy garbage
[10:03] <DraconPern> does the live cd for 7.10 have compiz fusion enabled by default?
[10:03] <MeRodent> !it | chaplin89
[10:03] <ubotu> chaplin89: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:03] <Slart> chaplin89: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:03] <Plutoprim1> that has become so convoluted that even the original authors don't really understanding how still actually works
[10:03] <riotkittie> ... !thenextpersonto<!command>getsitinthekisserwithapie
[10:03] <chaplin89> ooh..thanks ^^
[10:03] <riotkittie> i like make. <hugs it>
[10:04] <Plutoprim1> yea.. using make is all good
[10:04] <jdailey> hi.  I've got an issue with dueling Eclipse installs.  I removed the Ubuntu apt-get install because the one I need more is a stand-alone.  Now, I get "command unknown". Something to do with Bash ELF.
[10:04] <Plutoprim1> developing it
[10:04] <Plutoprim1> :p
[10:04] <Slart> chaplin89: that line installs and sets up some common stuff needed for compiling things
[10:04] <riotkittie> DraconPern: I'm not sure, but i would assume yes if the gfx card can hadle it
[10:04] <chaplin89> yes..I know ^^
[10:04] <chaplin89> thanks
[10:04] <fark0> When I make install in that BitchX directory, I get a "gmake[1] : *** [ctcp.o]  Error 1", and then the install commits honorable seppiku.
[10:05] <riotkittie> fark0: do you have everything needed to build? have you checked the README?
[10:05] <Plutoprim1> fark0: need more compile errors
[10:05] <fark0> I have lots of warnings, but I figured those were just good-practice negligence warnings.
[10:05] <Plutoprim1> perhaps above the line you pasted
[10:05] <fark0> Lemme see if I can find any real errors..
[10:05] <LinuxJuggalo> !pastebin | fark0
[10:05] <ubotu> fark0: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:05] <Slart> fark0: have you done the "sudo apt-get install build-essential" ? it installs some compiling/linking stuff
[10:05] <Plutoprim1> is it complaining about not finding .h files and some such
[10:06] <LinuxJuggalo> fark0: paste your errors on that pastebin then give us the link
[10:06] <fark0> @Slart: I have certanly not.
[10:06] <astro76> fark0, are you switching to root for the make install step? where is the target directory (i.e. /usr/local)?
[10:08] <pavi> hello , i have live cd for ubuntu 7.10 beta , but i want directly to install ubuntu without first introducing to desktop gnome and then install , is this possible, help please ??
[10:08] <fark0> AH
[10:08] <fark0> astro!
[10:08] <fark0> I am not using root
[10:08] <fark0> sudo make install?
[10:08] <fark0> Better?
[10:08] <astro76> fark0, indeed
[10:08] <darkchr0n0s> pavi : use alternate install CD
[10:08] <Slart> pavi: I don't think you can do that with the regular CD.. try the alternate install cd.
[10:08] <Slart> !alternate
[10:08] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[10:09] <pavi> so have to download alternate , cant do with live one ??
[10:09] <fark0> Okay, I have a more elborate error I believe..going to the pastebox.
[10:09] <Slart> pavi: not to my knowledge
[10:09] <pavi> ok thanks
[10:09] <astro76> pavi, alternate goes right into a text based install, what's the problem with loading the desktop first?
[10:09] <briggsy> is there any solution to date for getting flash on a ubuntu AMD64 machine
[10:09] <briggsy> i have searched the net and seem to be getting no results
[10:10] <darkchr0n0s> briggsy : install 32bit versions ?
[10:10] <pavi> i am using vmware on windows , so ram is all full first with windows and then above it live cd dekstop and then above it install procedure, so system goes slow ///
[10:10] <astro76> briggsy, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins
[10:10] <fark0> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39827/
[10:10] <Plutoprim1> pavi: -1
[10:12] <darkchr0n0s> pavi : how much ram you have ?
[10:12] <pavi> 512 mb
[10:12] <pavi> with 256 mb ati card
[10:12] <jdailey> Any suggestions from this chat where I should ask my question about eclipse?
[10:12] <codename> Need help, having problems for over 7 months
[10:12] <Plutoprim1> ouch
[10:12] <codename> will paypal money
[10:12] <codename> over $150 if solved
[10:12] <codename> PM if possible
[10:12] <gorski> I get this line in my apache http server, what to do? : Warning: Unknown: failed to open stream: Permission denied in Unknown on line 0
[10:12] <gorski> Fatal error: Unknown: Failed opening required '/var/www/testphp.php' (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear') in Unknown on line 0
[10:12] <astro76> pavi, you won't be able to run the desktop well once it's installed with that little ram
[10:13] <codename> its a GFX driver problem
[10:13] <Plutoprim1> codename: what's your problem related?
[10:13] <Plutoprim1> oh
[10:13] <codename> Graphics.
[10:13] <Plutoprim1> what card?
[10:13] <Plutoprim1> nvidia or ati?
[10:13] <codename> NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT
[10:13] <darkchr0n0s> nvidia :S
[10:13] <Plutoprim1> what's the problem?
[10:13] <codename> I install the drivers, and it looks really weird.
[10:13] <codename> I have the screenshots
[10:13] <Plutoprim1> link
[10:13] <codename> I can't expalin
[10:13] <codename> Ok hold on.
[10:14] <pavi> ok , sir, i am debian user, but currently lured by ubuntu so wanted to check it using vmware, now i will fully install it .
[10:14] <codename> theres actually like 4 pics
[10:14] <codename> http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j216/codenamexiii/Screenshot-9.png
[10:14] <codename> http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j216/codenamexiii/Screenshot-1-4.png
[10:14] <codename> http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j216/codenamexiii/Screenshot-8.png
[10:14] <Plutoprim1> ok
[10:14] <astro76> pavi, if you really want to take a look first, boot with the livecd
[10:14] <mir100> http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j216/codenamexiii/Screenshot-8.png
[10:14] <Plutoprim1> I've seen that before
[10:14] <mir100> oops
[10:14] <Plutoprim1> video memory corruption
[10:14] <pavi> alright
[10:15] <astro76> pavi, you can even install packages in the livecd environment
[10:15] <pavi> oh , great , will try
[10:15] <codename> So what do i do
[10:15] <Plutoprim1> how does your xorg.conf look like?
[10:15] <codename> Mine?
[10:15] <Plutoprim1> yes
[10:15] <codename> I got 1 question sorry
[10:15] <codename> um
[10:15] <codename> is it fixable?
[10:15] <Plutoprim1> depends what driver you're using
[10:15] <Plutoprim1> and if your xorg.conf is setup correctly
[10:15] <codename> Should I switch video cards?
[10:16] <Plutoprim1> also is this a known working card in windows?
[10:16] <pavi> i have one more problem sir, i have openssl installed on my system and is up to date but a particular software is reporting that " cant open libssl.so.4 : no such file or directory " , is there any way to solve this problem ///
[10:16] <codename> I never setup my Xorg config on Feisty
[10:16] <fark0> Limited Linux experience here, but if your video memory is corrupted (loose sector or such) usually one must replace the video card.
[10:16] <Plutoprim1> or another OS..
[10:16] <codename> It worked fine for me in Windows.
[10:16] <fark0> Oohh.
[10:16] <fark0> Hmm.
[10:16] <fark0> That's interesting.
[10:16] <codename> Again I've never touched my .XORG in Feisty
[10:16] <Plutoprim1> codename: open a terminal, type sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:17] <codename> now what
[10:17] <Plutoprim1> under Section "Device"
[10:17] <Plutoprim1> what is the Driver?
[10:17] <codename> yeah
[10:17] <Plutoprim1> nv? or nvidia?
[10:17] <xxx> hy ..
[10:17] <tetrach> quick question why cant i get higher resolution off my graphics card
[10:17] <Slart> hmm.. gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf.. apparently the world explodes or something if you use sudo for a X application =)
[10:17] <codename> InputDevice
[10:18] <Plutoprim1> haha
[10:18] <codename> oh
[10:18] <codename> Nvidia
[10:18] <tetrach> yeah nvidia
[10:18] <Plutoprim1> "nvidia" ?
[10:18] <codename> Section "Device"
[10:18] <codename> 	Identifier	"nVidia Corporation NV40 [GeForce 6800 GT] "
[10:18] <codename> 	Driver		"nv"
[10:18] <MeRodent> pavi, is that aMSN?
[10:18] <Plutoprim1> there is your problem
[10:18] <codename> its nv
[10:18] <codename> sorry
[10:18] <darkchr0n0s> tetrach : add the higher resolution in xorg.conf, then it will appear in the menus i suppose
[10:18] <Plutoprim1> should be:   Driver "nvidia"
[10:18] <pavi> no , its some broadband client installer software ////
[10:18] <codename> This is Feisty FAWN
[10:18] <codename> so
[10:18] <codename> it doesnt matter
[10:18] <codename> right
[10:18] <Plutoprim1> yea
[10:18] <codename> so what do I do
[10:18] <codename> change it to
[10:18] <codename> nvidia
[10:19] <codename> then
[10:19] <pavi> it installs an executable in /usr/bin only
[10:19] <codename> install my drivers?
[10:19] <Plutoprim1> no
[10:19] <MeRodent> !enter | codename
[10:19] <tetrach> i installed a driver
[10:19] <ubotu> codename: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:19] <Plutoprim1> you need to install the official nvidia drivers first
[10:19] <Plutoprim1> codename: install the drivers first, then change that to nvidia
[10:19] <codename> So I can't go to restricted drivers manager and do oit
[10:19] <Plutoprim1> you can
[10:19] <Forager> in the event that I need to buy a new NIC to work with ubunto, what would people in here reccommend?
[10:19] <Plutoprim1> codename: the restricted drivers manager will automatically change nv to nvidia
[10:20] <codename> Because that's what I've been doing, and it still does all that...
[10:20] <codename> :(
[10:20] <Plutoprim1> codename: try this, download this http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/envy_0.9.7-0ubuntu12_all.deb
[10:20] <Plutoprim1> install that
[10:20] <codename> Already tried Envy.
[10:20] <darkchr0n0s> Forager : i haven't used linksys before.. but that won't be the case, unless your hardware is listed in unsupported hardware
[10:20] <astro76> !envy
[10:20] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[10:20] <drgeb> has anyone upgraded from feisty to gutsy yet ?
[10:20] <codename> I dunno what to do.
[10:20] <Plutoprim1> does it build the driver successfully?
[10:20] <codename> Should I switch video cards?
[10:20] <codename> Yeah.
[10:21] <Plutoprim1> ok.. looks like you've already installed the driver
[10:21] <drgeb> I am wondering if this is going to be a smooth transition or not,
[10:21] <codename> That's a sign of memory corruption you say?
[10:21] <Plutoprim1> change nv to nvidia
[10:21] <codename> Yeah.
[10:21] <Plutoprim1> and restart X
[10:21] <Plutoprim1> see if it works
[10:21] <fark0> Speaking of video cards, I'm trying to install mine just now..
[10:21] <darkchr0n0s> drgeb : from windows to linux ?/
[10:21] <pavi> merodent : any solutions
[10:21] <Plutoprim1> and yes.. that's how memory corruption looks like
[10:21] <Plutoprim1> when your video buffers are not read/written to correctly
[10:21] <codename> So if this fails, then I should switch to an older video card?
[10:21] <Forager> darkchr0n0s, the link ou gave me earlier pretty much says I'm SOL with my current card.  Now, i'm asking for a reccommendation on what I should replace it with?
[10:22] <Plutoprim1> if you card is working ok.. it shouldn't fail
[10:22] <astro76> drgeb, it should upgrade flawlessly... but of course you'd want to wait for the actual release
[10:22] <darkchr0n0s> SOL means ?
[10:22] <Plutoprim1> if it fails then something is wrong with your card...
[10:22] <MeRodent> pavi, sorry, just trying to find the refference. I had what sounds like the same problem with aMSN and there was a link to how to fix it from their support pages.
[10:22] <drgeb> yep I am going to wait a month after the release just to make sure
[10:22] <Plutoprim1> it's like saying I filled my car gas tank after it ran out and it won't run
[10:22] <Forager> darkchr0n0s: SOL = Sh!t outta luck
[10:22] <drgeb> and also I will try and make a backup of everything
[10:22] <Plutoprim1> then your problem lies elsewhere with the hardware
[10:22] <pavi> please if u can give me the link, i will like to see to it
[10:23] <pavi> this problem can happen with any software
[10:23] <codename> For example, I have another video card around here somewhere, if I take my current one out, and put the new one in, will Linux see that a new video card has been put in?
[10:23] <codename> Like the motherboard or RAM?
[10:23] <NomadStanger> wow people!
[10:23] <pavi> i think if once path is given to libssl.so.4 , it will be solved
[10:23] <Plutoprim1> codename: no.. not really :(
[10:23] <`Matir> codename, yes, but it may or may not work with your xorg configuration
[10:24] <drgeb> well good night all! at least I got 50% of my attempt to get mythtv working with my Pinnacle PCTV HD Pro Stick!! so cool that it all works on Ubuntu!!!
[10:24] <Plutoprim1> codename: videocard driver is autodected at installation.. with feisty video will fail if you hotswap cards
[10:24] <NomadStanger> why do you folks have so many problems with linux? did you ever see so many users in one single windwos channel talk about so many issues at once?
[10:24] <Plutoprim1> codename: unless the replacement card is also nvidia
[10:24] <astro76> codename, you'll need to reconfigure x from text mode after you change cards
[10:24] <astro76> !xconfig | codename
[10:24] <Plutoprim1> codename: yes
[10:24] <ubotu> codename: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[10:24] <codename> Yeah, the replacement card would be a older version of a card.
[10:24] <fark0> How do I tell if I have the latest kernel?
[10:24] <NomadStanger> this doesn't work. that's broke. how do i fix this? how do i configure x?
[10:24] <`Matir> NomadStanger, windows users couldn't figure out how to get in a channel
[10:24] <codename> Like a GeForce Ti 4200
[10:24] <Plutoprim1> codename: it will work fine then
[10:25] <LinuxJuggalo> !offtopic | NomadStanger
[10:25] <ubotu> NomadStanger: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:25] <Plutoprim1> codename: as long as the driver is the same.. it should be ok
[10:25] <NomadStanger> `Matir: that's untrue
[10:25] <codename> So as long as it's Nvidia it should be OK?
[10:25] <fark0> !halp
[10:25] <Plutoprim1> codename: yes
[10:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about halp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:25] <Plutoprim1> why aren't you trying these instructions
[10:25] <Forager> alright.. I'm outta here.  G'nite all.
[10:25] <Plutoprim1> before asking about all the possibilities in the universe
[10:26] <fark0> How do I tell if I have the latest kernel, folks?
[10:26] <fark0> Any ideas?
[10:26] <fark0> No hurry.
[10:26] <astro76> fark0, uname -r
[10:26] <NomadStanger> fark what are you gonna do with the latest kernel if you can't play any games on it?
[10:26] <jtkiefer> vncviewer Metamorphosis:0
[10:26] <codename> Because like anytime I go to a flash site my computer freezes pretty much haha
[10:26] <fark0> cover it in butter
[10:26] <fark0> and eat it
[10:26] <jtkiefer> oops, wrong tab
[10:26] <mlpug> ssh connection timeouts. dont see related option in sshd_config. problem might be lower in the tcp/ip stack. how to troubleshoot this?
[10:26] <darkchr0n0s> Forager : i suggest post on forums. might be of some help.. and if you are on buying new nic, check the hardware incompatibility list first..
[10:26] <Plutoprim1> codename: your computer has serious issues
[10:27] <fark0> @NomadStanger It seems as though my display driver requires it. :(
[10:27] <codename> Not really like freezes, but hangs a lot.
[10:27] <codename> But with Windows it never did that.
[10:27] <LinuxJuggalo> NomadStanger: offtopic, please stop trolling, this channel is strictly for ubuntu support
[10:27] <fark0> also, thank you Astro!
[10:27] <LinuxJuggalo> !offtopic | NomadStanger
[10:27] <ubotu> NomadStanger: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:27] <Plutoprim1> codename: so did you try replacing "nv" with "nvidia" ?
[10:28] <NomadStanger> LinuxJuggalo: tell me the name of one single Games for Windows game that you can run on Linux and I will stop trolling
[10:28] <Plutoprim1> codename: then hit "Control" "Alt" "Backspace" keys to kill X and restart it
[10:28] <codename> Well if I've already used the restricted Drivers manager, and Envy and those failed, should I still try that?
[10:28] <NomadStanger> wait let me ask you all a question
[10:28] <`Matir> NomadStanger, hint: "Games for WINDOWS"
[10:28] <Plutoprim1> codename: define "failed"
[10:28] <codename> Like, it's still done the exact same thing.
[10:29] <MeRodent> pavi, still looking but try searching for tls 1.5 error
[10:29] <codename> What was the term.
[10:29] <Plutoprim1> codename: then your card looks defective
[10:29] <pavi> alright
[10:29] <LinuxJuggalo> NomadStanger: i can run all blizzard games fine on Linux (WOW, Diablo2, etc...)
[10:29] <NomadStanger> when bill gates invented new stuff, wrote direct x, revolutionized the way people communicate with each other over the net and all that, you guys kept compiling kernels
[10:29] <codename> So I should switch cards, and reconfigure my X
[10:29] <Plutoprim1> but yea
[10:29] <Plutoprim1> still try my suggestion
[10:29] <codename> so when I switch my cards it will be a black screen right
[10:29] <codename> ok
[10:29] <astro76> !offtopic | NomadStanger
[10:29] <ubotu> NomadStanger: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:29] <fark0> Bill Gates invented nothing, it was Al Gore all the way.
[10:29] <Plutoprim1> it takes 1 mintue to try.. I don't see the difficulty...
[10:29] <LinuxJuggalo> NomadStanger: most windows programs and games will work fine on Linux using wine
[10:29] <LinuxJuggalo> !wine | NomadStanger
[10:29] <ubotu> NomadStanger: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[10:30] <`Matir> NomadStanger, ironically enough, bill gates had NOTHING to do with Direct X.
[10:30] <fark0> Also, Nomad - dual boot, homeslice.
[10:30] <codename> One more question, Pluto, so when I put in the new Video card tomorrow what should I expect/
[10:30] <codename> when I first turn my PC on
[10:30] <LinuxJuggalo> and again i say OFFTOPIC people
[10:30] <NomadStanger> ok offtopic for the win
[10:31] <MeRodent> pavi, http://amsn.sourceforge.net/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=Frequently+Asked+Questions#faq-6-6    go to the section 6.6
 looking for help on my eclipse issue
[10:31] <MeRodent> pavi, hopefully that fixes it.
[10:31] <pavi> alright , thanks
[10:31] <LinuxJuggalo> jdailey67: ubotu is a bot
[10:32] <codename> Hey Plutopriml1
[10:32] <LinuxJuggalo> !eclipse | jdailey67
[10:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eclipse - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:32] <fark0> !suicide | self
[10:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about suicide - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:32] <fark0> :(
[10:32] <LinuxJuggalo> lol
[10:33] <fark0> My display drivers are being stubborn.
 He sounded very sincere.
[10:33] <fark0> And by stubborn, I mean, not working at all.
[10:33] <fark0> http://www.suse.de/~sndirsch/nvidia-installer-HOWTO.html#3
[10:33] <fark0> Running openSuSE 10.2 - following those instructions returns me an error in YaST.
[10:33] <jdailey67> Unfortunately, my problem is beyond eclipse as an install issue and is into the Bash ELF area.
[10:33] <newsagex> y
[10:33] <jdailey67> !ELF | self
[10:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about elf - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:34] <MeRodent> fark0, if you're running suse you may be better asking on #suse
[10:34] <superposi> hi
[10:34] <mtholdenss> how can i put xp into grub boot list?
[10:34] <fark0> is there a #suse?
[10:34] <fark0> I knew I was in the wrong place..
[10:34] <fark0> Thanks for the help already though, guys.
[10:34] <LinuxJuggalo> fark0: yes there is /join #suse
[10:35] <MeRodent> fark0, you can allways try /join #whateverchannelyouwant...     #opensuse actually connects you to #suse
[10:35] <ferronica> hi all
[10:36] <ramu> hi
[10:36] <ramu> can i ask?
[10:36] <MeRodent> !ask | ramu
[10:36] <ubotu> ramu: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:36] <ferronica> from where  can i get Usplash screen for ubuntu 7.04 ?
[10:37] <ramu> there is any way to run Windows programs in ubuntu?
[10:37] <ramu> :)
[10:37] <Amaranth> arnducky: Come back.
[10:37] <ferronica> ram: yes
[10:37] <LinuxJuggalo> ramu: yes there is
[10:37] <mechdave> ramu, you could try wine
[10:37] <ramu> how?
[10:37] <ferronica> ramu: yes
[10:37] <LinuxJuggalo> !wine | ramu
[10:37] <ubotu> ramu: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[10:37] <ferronica> ramu: use wine
[10:37] <ramu> i installed it,,, but... how to run?
[10:38] <ramu> i'm new in linux
[10:38] <ramu> and games too? :)
[10:39] <dissection> ramu: To play games, you can try Cedega.
[10:39] <Plutoprim1> Amaranth: are you they guy who made all those cool themes back in the day?
[10:39] <MeRodent> !cedega
[10:39] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[10:39] <Amaranth> Plutoprim1: Nope, I hate the Amaranth theme. :)
[10:39] <Plutoprim1> hehe .. ok just curious....
[10:39] <Plutoprim1> that name is just too famous
[10:39] <Plutoprim1> as far as themes go
[10:39] <mechdave> ramu, from memory it is just wine name_of_program_to_run
[10:40] <ramu> is Cedega in sinaptic?
[10:40] <fark0> !repo
[10:40] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[10:40] <Plutoprim1> ramu: no.. you need to buy is with $$$
[10:40] <dissection> ramu, no, Cedega is not free.
[10:40] <MeRodent> ramu, cedega is either commercial or cvs <- compile yourself
[10:40] <Plutoprim1> ramu: or you can pirate it if your're a software theif
[10:41] <dissection> lol
[10:41] <dissection> Yeah, that too.
[10:41] <Plutoprim1> yep
[10:41] <ramu> :D
[10:41] <Plutoprim1> all over the torrents
[10:41] <Plutoprim1> sadly
[10:41] <Plutoprim1> I subscribed to cedega for 6 months
[10:41] <Plutoprim1> and it wasn't worth it
[10:41] <MeRodent> Plutoprim1, afaik cedega cvs version is freeware.
[10:41] <Plutoprim1> yea.. but I don't have the time to configure that
[10:41] <Plutoprim1> everytime a new version comes out
[10:41] <burito> oh dear.. brain failure... could some1 plz remind me how I list the channels that a IRC user is in?
[10:41] <Plutoprim1> my time is more valuable than that
[10:41] <MeRodent> Plutoprim1, that of course is the problem.
[10:41] <dissection> I've tried playing counterstrike, with Cedega, and it worked great. I haven't tried anything else.
[10:42] <MeRodent> burito, /whois nick
[10:42] <burito> MeRodent: tried that, it only listed dns, and real name :-(
[10:42] <CokeNCode> hey ... has anyone had any problems with azureus and firestarter (the firewall)
[10:42] <ramu> i want to try Lineage 2 :)
[10:42] <CokeNCode> i just started it up ... and i'm rejecting a heap of connections
[10:42] <DjViper> burito: you can't list channels of other people if the channel is +s (secret)
[10:42] <dissection> burito: Then they probably aren't on any channels, or on private channels
[10:43] <CokeNCode> and my download speed really isn't the best
[10:43] <MeRodent> * [burito]  #ubuntu
[10:43] <PakYaw> most RPG works with wine and cadega. but i got some problems with online games like maple story and 2moons coz they uses gameguard
[10:43] <MeRodent> burito, should list the channels (that is what you want isn't it?)
[10:43] <Plutoprim1> I would solve your problem by creating a gaming console called "winbox"
[10:43] <JerKB> Quick question for anyone familiar with BitchX.  I ssh into my pc from work to IRC and have BitchX but I (DUH) forgot how to switch between channels while chatting.  what's the keybindings for that?
[10:43] <Plutoprim1> install winblows on there and run your games
[10:43] <burito> ahh yep cheers DjViper, you hit the nail on the head
[10:43] <PakYaw> hey guys is it safe to upgrade to gutsy now?
[10:44] <Plutoprim1> this is kind of sad as I may be switching jobs and work for microshaft soon
[10:44] <dissection> JerKB: Alt + 1,2,3,4,5....
[10:44] <ramu> i dont know how.... I'm NEW :D
[10:44] <Plutoprim1> makes me feel dirty
[10:44] <gogeta> lol
[10:44] <JerKB> dissection:  thank you!
[10:44] <PakYaw> Plutoprim1: winblows?? same like wine?
[10:44] <CokeNCode> JerKB I actually do the same thing ... every worried about security issues ?
[10:44] <CokeNCode> oh well
[10:44] <CokeNCode> so much for that
[10:44] <MeRodent> PakYaw, I beleive it's a derivative of wine.
[10:44] <CommanderCool> every time i boot ubuntu after having booted windows, the network is broken
[10:45] <Plutoprim1> winblows = windows... my prejudiced self insults that name
[10:45] <Plutoprim1> I ddidn't even know such a derivative existed
[10:45] <Plutoprim1> HAHAHAHA
[10:45] <dissection> lol
[10:45] <Plutoprim1> I just call windows winblows
[10:45] <PakYaw> hahahaha lols
[10:45] <Plutoprim1> dude.. I'm not joking
[10:45] <gogeta> i call windown uninstall now
[10:45] <burito> PakYaw: its safe, but you'll still be downloading several hundred Mb of updates every few days, and its not perfectly stable
[10:45] <gogeta> LOL
[10:45] <Plutoprim1> I may soon be working for MS too
[10:45] <Plutoprim1> as part of the windows product team
[10:45] <gogeta> HAHAHAHA
[10:45] <Plutoprim1> I'm really afraid of my in person interview
[10:45] <gogeta> sneak ubuntu cds into the packaging
[10:45] <Plutoprim1> how I'm NOT going to be badmouthing MS
[10:45] <DraconPern> where can I report that 7.10 persistence doesn't work?
[10:46] <Plutoprim1> and keep a straight face
[10:46] <PakYaw> tnx burito :D guess i have to stick for a while and wait for gutsy final
[10:46] <gogeta> no idea
[10:46] <mechdave> Plutoprim1, I hear there is quite a few open source guys at M$
[10:46] <CommanderCool> every time i boot ubuntu after having booted windows, the network is broken
[10:46] <Plutoprim1> yea... it's true
[10:46] <Plutoprim1> which is why I'm willing to take a job.. I respect their engineers
[10:46] <dissection> I really hate the idea of rebooting everytime i run a Windows update. After I switched to Ubuntu, I realised that rebooting was a curse I could have avoided long ago.
[10:46] <Plutoprim1> which is what I am.. a developer
[10:46] <LinuxJuggalo> ewww working for the corporate enemy
[10:46] <Plutoprim1> I don't respect their marketing department.. and PR
[10:46] <gogeta> what there engners ened to be slaped
[10:46] <gogeta> for that vista disaster
[10:46] <mmkassem> DraconPern: https://launchpad.net/
[10:47] <burito> CommanderCool: I think I know your problem, let me guess, you have a RealTek Gigabit card right?
[10:47] <JerKB> I love vista!  it was the best thing to happen to linux in YEARS!  :P
[10:47] <gogeta> hehehe
[10:47] <Plutoprim1> heh
[10:47] <gogeta> ya maybe thats what happond
[10:47] <burito> JerKB: seconded
[10:47] <CommanderCool> burito: could be it
[10:47] <dissection> lol
[10:47] <Plutoprim1> I've been using linux for 9 years...
[10:47] <mechdave> Plutoprim1, what do you develop?
[10:47] <gogeta> linux devs undercover took vista out
[10:47] <PakYaw> mind is a bet diff from u CommanderCool: everytime i boot my PC .. i need to change the sound device from intel to chaintech kinda odd
[10:47] <dissection> I've been using Linux for 3 months :p
[10:47] <gogeta> redat 6 baby
[10:47] <gogeta> redhat
[10:47] <tsukasa> hey whats a free filesending service
[10:47] <Plutoprim1> I have background at both software and hardware
[10:48] <tsukasa> i keep forgetting them
[10:48] <Plutoprim1> until recently I worked at intel
[10:48] <JerKB> let's see... '98,... so yeah.. 9 years here too.  god it don't seem that long
[10:48] <gogeta> gaming
[10:48] <Plutoprim1> joining MS would obviously be software :)
[10:48] <burito> CommanderCool: the problem is, in windows, WakeOnLAN is disabled, to disable it, WinXP disables the card totally, so while linux knows its there, it refuses to acknowledge a network connection
[10:48] <gogeta> more like taking years bac
[10:48] <jussi01> !offtopic
[10:48] <gogeta> back
[10:48] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:48] <gogeta> vista isnt a upgrade
[10:48] <gogeta> its a downgrade
[10:48] <dissection> There is some distro I heard about yesterday, that tries to make itself look like Vista's GUI. I have no idea why anyone'd want to do such a thing.
[10:48] <Plutoprim1> oops.. sorry about offtopic.. I'll be quiet now.
[10:48] <burito> CommanderCool: the solution is, go into windows, devicemanager, network card properties, and tell WakeOnLAN to be enabled
[10:49] <jussi01> Plutoprim1: your welcome to chatt in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:49] <tsukasa> dissection, so they can pretend they have winblows?
[10:49] <thedonvaughn> dissection, been going on since the windows 95 days. always a linux distro doing that
[10:49] <Plutoprim1> jussi01: thanks
[10:49] <tsukasa> whats a free file sending site? i keep forgetting their names.
[10:49] <mechdave> Oops, sorry partly my fault guys!
[10:49] <gogeta> hey thers a idea why is winblows so mutch faster then my vista install then you give them the suprise
[10:49] <CommanderCool> burito: after having booted from the feisty fawn live cd it works again...
[10:50] <ferronica_> h
[10:50] <dissection> I've always been sticking with the Windows Classic theme. Even the XP theme looked like the GUI for kintergarden.
[10:50] <gogeta> i kept the start menu rest classic
 Is there any other place I can look?
[10:50] <gogeta> when im in winhell to play a few games cedega fails at
[10:50] <PakYaw> <--- got shocked at VISTA BLUE SCREEN on first installation
[10:50] <burito> CommanderCool: hmm, maybe the livecd has a different way of enabling it, well if it is a RealTek Gigabit card, that will fix it, speaking from experience :-)
[10:51] <ferronica> l
[10:51] <CommanderCool> ok burito, thank you
[10:51] <gogeta> vista hates anything not drm m$ sorry you cant install that dave
[10:51] <LinuxJuggalo> jdailey67: http://ubuntuforums.org
[10:51] <JerKB> ugh... OK alt+1,2,3,etc... isn't doing what I expected it to on BitchX.  It just says "Window # is not hidden" or "Window # does not exist" instead of switching between channels
[10:52] <gogeta> vista = bsd
[10:52] <gogeta> lol
[10:52] <jussi01> !offtopic | gogeta
[10:52] <ubotu> gogeta: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:52] <gogeta> no support or apps
[10:52] <dissection> JerKB: I had the same problem when I installed BitchX from the repositories. Probably some option somewhere to enable the windows. My friend who uses BitchX in Fedora is able to use Alt+1,2,3,4, etc, just like in irssi.
[10:52] <gogeta> shopuld be the same
 Thanks.  I have opened up issues there with no responses.  I'm pretty sure this is just me being a newbie at linux.
[10:53] <JerKB> Hmmm... might have to compile from source and enable it then.
[10:53] <gogeta> hotkeys dont normaly change
[10:53] <tsukasa> JerKB, im not sure what BitchX does but if you are just using it for those keybindings compizconfig-manager does it
[10:53] <tsukasa> regardless of whether you have compiz rofl
[10:53] <dissection> tsukasa: BitchX is an IRC client
[10:53] <JerKB> i'm ssh'ed into my pc.  no graphical client
[10:53] <tsukasa> ooh
[10:53] <JerKB> text console
[10:53] <dissection> JerKB: Have you tried irssi?
[10:53] <gogeta> bitchx is a text irc client a rater widly used one
[10:54] <JerKB> dissection, i have years ago.  I was always more comfortable with BitchX but it seems I might have to go with irssi unless i want to compile from source
[10:54] <ferronica> can we use Amarok in ubuntu GNOME 7.04 ?
[10:55] <jussi01> ferronica: yes
[10:55] <dissection> ferronica: Yes
[10:55] <PakYaw> yes
[10:55] <neenaoffline> isn't there anyway I can install ubuntu using CLI with the regular CD ?
[10:55] <MeRodent> ferronica, I am so the answer would be yes.
[10:55] <ferronica> but it meant for KDE :(
[10:55] <PakYaw> JerKB: have u tried weechat
[10:55] <jussi01> ferronica: only thin is you need to install extra libraries
[10:55] <tsukasa> so why is BitchX better then say, Xchat?
[10:55] <JerKB> PakYaw, is it text-mode?
[10:55] <PakYaw> ferronica:  is works with gnome also
[10:55] <Sarah__> i neeeeed help
[10:55] <ferronica> how to install extra lib. ?
[10:55] <dissection> JerKB: I found irssi much easier to use than BitchX. Plus I like the the nicklist.pl script for it. I don't know if there is a way to enable a nicklist in BitchX.
[10:55] <gogeta> neeeeeeeeeeedddddddd heeeellllllllp
[10:55] <gogeta> doesent help
[10:56] <PakYaw> JerKB: yes im using it now
[10:56] <jussi01> !ask | Sarah__
[10:56] <ubotu> Sarah__: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:56] <cBot_v2r0> Is there a way to install Ubuntu onto a USB drive without changing the local hard disk mbr?
[10:56] <PakYaw> JerKB: i like weechat more than irrsi
[10:56] <dissection> weechat, never heard of it
[10:56] <JerKB> thanks I'll try both.  I suppose if nothing else I could use finch.. (shudder)
[10:56] <jussi01> !info weechat
[10:56] <MeRodent> ferronica, just choose it from add/remove and it will install the libs it needs.
[10:56] <PakYaw> try version me
[10:56] <ubotu> weechat: Fast, light and extensible IRC client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.3-1 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 68 kB
[10:56] <ferronica> jussi01: how to install extra library for amarok ?
[10:56] <ferronica> oh okay
[10:57] <jussi01> ferronica: just intall amorak, it will install the libs itself
[10:57] <neenaoffline> so can I ?
[10:57] <jussi01> neenaoffline: no, you need the alternate cd
[10:57] <ferronica> jussi01: it means whether i use Xfce or fluxbox i can use it
[10:57] <dissection> http://www.wotanist.com/Screenshot.png
[10:58] <amer> hi , how to make vim highlight the text?
[10:58] <jussi01> neenaoffline: hang on, what do you mean. have you a command line system already installed?
[10:58] <neenaoffline> can I do it without using ubiquity atleast ?
[10:58] <neenaoffline> jussi01: no
[10:58] <gogeta> wha i whant that theme
[10:58] <Sarah__> i tried to put ubuntu 7.10 on my computer and i did, i couldnt USE the internet but could ping websites fine. i thought it was a bug in 7.10 then i installed fedora core 7 and the exact same problem..... help? im connecting through ethernet and i have the drivers for its fine (Realtek RTL8111b)... why!! cant!! i!! use!!! net!!??
[10:58] <jussi01> neenaoffline: no, you need the alternate cd
[10:58] <cBot_v2r0> Is this the support channel?
[10:59] <jussi01> cBot_v2r0: yes
[10:59] <gogeta> nope where just offering support
[10:59] <dissection> PakYaw: Just checked out some screenshots of weechat. Looks nice ;] 
[10:59] <gogeta> :)
[10:59] <yokomo> can anyone point me in the right direction for encrypting hard drive data in linux?
[10:59] <thedonvaughn> Sarah__, so you can ping different domains?  ping yahoo.com for example?
[10:59] <Sarah__> yes, but not connect
[10:59] <DraconPern> launchpad is not working
[10:59] <cBot_v2r0> I have a question about installing Ubuntu onto a usb disk
[10:59] <amer> hi , how to make vim highlight the text? is there any package to do that?
[10:59] <thedonvaughn> Sarah__, if so , congratulations you are connected to the internet.  If you are specific problems, please give more details in your problem
[10:59] <Sarah__> as in see in firefox
[10:59] <neenaoffline> is there like a base CD of some sort ?
[10:59] <dissection> Sarah__: Maybe you haven't set the gateway.
[10:59] <gogeta> what
[11:00] <jussi01> !alternate
[11:00] <PakYaw> was that a weechat screenshot?
[11:00] <gogeta> base cd?
[11:00] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[11:00] <thedonvaughn> Sarah__, so you can't establish a connection with firefox?  do you receive any errors?
[11:00] <dissection> PakYaw: No, that was my irssi ;] 
[11:00] <Sarah__> i can ping a website, but i cant go there...
[11:00] <amer> hi , how to make vim highlight the text? is there any package to do that? please any help.
[11:00] <Sarah__> nope no errors
[11:00] <yokomo> neenaoffline: base CD for ubuntu?  http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[11:00] <thedonvaughn> Sarah__, well what is the result?
[11:00] <Sarah__> dissection: how do i do that
[11:00] <mechdave> !Minimal
[11:00] <ubotu> The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[11:00] <jussi01> neenaoffline: see what the bot said.
[11:00] <neenaoffline> huh ?
[11:00] <neenaoffline> I meant a smaller 1
[11:00] <neenaoffline> ah, thanks
[11:00] <jussi01> :)
[11:00] <thedonvaughn> dissection, she can ping the domains, she has her gateway set
[11:00] <MeRodent> Sarah__, do you connect through a server?
[11:01] <yokomo> can anyone point me in the right direction for encrypting hard drive data in linux?
[11:01] <dissection> Oh
[11:01] <thedonvaughn> Sarah__, are you behind a router or running any kind of firewall in front of your linux box?
[11:01] <Sarah__> ok, i type in google.com for example and it will say "connecting to www.google.com" but doesnt display page not found or anything, just keeps connecting
[11:01] <cBot_v2r0> Is this channel always this busy?
[11:01] <Tomcat_> cBot_v2r0: Yes.
[11:01] <jussi01> cBot_v2r0: yes
[11:01] <Sarah__> im connected to a router and it worked 100% fine in 7.04
[11:01] <JerKB> Sarah__ have you tried a different browser?
[11:01] <dissection> cBot_v2r0: With 1000+ users at all times, yes.
[11:01] <ramvi> I just installed ubuntu on an external hd. How do I have it boot?
[11:02] <Sarah__> yes, kind of... i tried pidgen and other ways of connecting to the net
[11:02] <jussi01> ramvi: did it install grub?
[11:02] <thedonvaughn> Sarah__, ok go directly to your uplink.  i.e. your cable modem or dsl router.  to make sure it's not your router.  when troubleshooting go easiest first
[11:02] <Sarah__> eg requesting updates
[11:02] <ramvi> jussi01, yeah. on the first HD
[11:02] <xshadowfire> i don't suppose anyone's good with fglrx/ati drivers
[11:02] <thedonvaughn> Sarah__, so disconnect from your router and try going directlry to your uplink source
[11:02] <Access> Is there anything remotely as good as Dreamweaver on Linux *cries* :(
[11:02] <thedonvaughn> xshadowfire, i'd just ask your question
[11:02] <Sarah__> access
[11:02] <jussi01> ramvi: so make it boot from bios to the first hdd, it should then give you a menu
[11:02] <dissection> Sarah__: Is it a manual configuration, or DHCP?
[11:02] <Sarah__> YES... it is here hold on (its on digg)
[11:02] <JerKB> so pidgin, xchat, update-manager, etc can connect?
[11:03] <jussi01> !info bluefish | Access
[11:03] <ubotu> access: bluefish: advanced Gtk+ HTML editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.7-1 (feisty), package size 1570 kB, installed size 6724 kB
[11:03] <Sarah__> dhcp but i tried setting a static
[11:03] <Access> That good is it?
[11:03] <ramvi> jussi01, Ive got a macbook. So it doesnt have a bios. just efi
[11:03] <jussi01> Access: its not as good, but as close as you will get
[11:03] <amer> hi , how to make vim highlight the text? is there any package to do that? please any help.
[11:03] <jussi01> ramvi: ahhh... you didnt say that
[11:03] <xshadowfire> ok, i followed that binarydriverhowto/ati guide and now i'm sutck in command line
[11:03] <ramvi> jussi01, sorry :)
[11:03] <MeRodent> Sarah__, if you set a static ip you also need to set the gateway.
[11:03] <Access> Ahhh okay...  will give it a shot! Thanks
[11:03] <thedonvaughn> she has the gateway set guys if she can ping these domains
[11:04] <thedonvaughn> it's a router issue
[11:04] <Access> Would love nothing more than Adobe to release the Creative Suite 3 for Ubuntu
[11:04] <thedonvaughn> but she's not listening to me
[11:04] <jussi01> xshadowfire: try; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:04] <Access> Illustrator, Photoshop, Flash, Dreamweaver are pretty vital to me sadly.
[11:04] <Sarah__> i was on ubuntu 7.04 a few seconds ago using the net fine
[11:04] <PakYaw> Sarah__: have i tried resetting ur router coz that happens to me b4
[11:04] <de_wizze> Access: Send them an email asking for it
[11:04] <Sarah__> ok
[11:04] <jussi01> Access: IIRC most of them run under wine
[11:04] <Sarah__> ill try
[11:04] <Sarah__> br b
[11:04] <cBot_v2r0> Can install onto a USB drive without changing the first (local) hard disk mbr?
[11:04] <Access> de_wizze: I did send them an email
[11:05] <xshadowfire> umm
[11:05] <Access> de_wizze: Last night actually. hahah
[11:05] <jussi01> Access: great.
[11:05] <thedonvaughn> xshadowfire, so you install fglrx and ran aticonfig --initial and all that?  What's the error you are getting when starting X or gdm?
[11:05] <ramvi> I just installed ubuntu on an external hd. How do I have it boot? Running macbook
[11:05] <de_wizze> good
[11:05] <jussi01> Access: Have a look  into crossover. I know they support photoshop at least
[11:05] <Access> jussi01: Wine page says only Dreamweaver 8 works at all
[11:06] <ramu> by the way, do i need some antivirus software for Ubuntu?
[11:06] <jussi01> !virus
[11:06] <xshadowfire> let me check
[11:06] <MeRodent> !virus | ramu
[11:06] <_Jaak_> i am testing data transfer rates between a 1.0 bluetooth and a 2.0 bluetooth dongle on my pc to a mobile phone with 2,0. But i there is no diffrence? How come?
[11:06] <Access> jussi01: And you had to install it on windows first then copy all the files over manually from all the little painful areas. I tried, couldnt get it to go.
[11:06] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[11:06] <PakYaw> ramu : u dont need that
[11:06] <ubotu> ramu: please see above
[11:06] <ramu> !virus
[11:06] <Boing> hello, is there a way I can control a remote display using ssh? I want to be able to play media and control playback with my laptop, thanks
[11:06] <jussi01> Access: oh. ok
[11:06] <JerKB> Ooooh... weechat's kinda spiffy.
[11:06] <ramu> thnx :)
[11:07] <jussi01> !vnc | Boing
[11:07] <ubotu> Boing: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[11:07] <thedonvaughn> Boing, play sound?  use mpd.  it's great
[11:07] <JerKB> PakYaw how do you scroll the nicklist on weechat?
[11:09] <StoneNewt>   _Jaak_: I don't know much about BTooth but could it be like these devices that are USB2.0 not because they need/can use the extra data rate but so it doesn't slow down the transfer for all devices on the root hub with it?
[11:09] <Boing> thanks all I'll check it out
[11:09] <PakYaw> JerKB: i just type first 2 or 3 chars of the name then tab
[11:09] <JerKB> PakYaw: there's not a way to just scroll the nicklist?
[11:09] <PakYaw> havent tried that
[11:09] <xshadowfire> oh hey, i did sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it works again ^^
[11:09] <Sarah____> that didnt fix it
[11:10] <jussi01> xshadowfire: great!!
[11:10] <PakYaw> coz i can realy scrool this bar in the side
[11:10] <xshadowfire> well
[11:10] <xshadowfire> kind of
[11:10] <JerKB> i mean ... if not it'd be kida useless to have a nicklist
[11:10] <xshadowfire> i'm back where i started though :/
[11:10] <Access> Grr, does anyone know how to use Bluefish... I dont know how to make it connect to an FTP site. Had the same trouble with Screem. :S In NVU and Dreamweaver I could just go Right-Click "Add site" and it was awesome. How do I do it in anything else?
[11:10] <JerKB> 1.Where were you at 1:02 AM today?
[11:10] <gregshallard> How do I do quick user switch using terminal?
[11:10] <JerKB> I had just gone to bed.
[11:10] <JerKB> In bed, i worked yesterday so didnt make a long night of it.
[11:10] <JerKB> 2. How did you get the idea for your MySpace name?
[11:10] <dissection> Apart from this channel, I usually am on channels with very less users so I never needed to scroll my nicklist :p
[11:10] <JerKB> ack
[11:11] <jussi01> Access: sorry, Ive always used quanta as im on kde...
[11:11] <Access> Can I not use Quanta?
[11:11] <xshadowfire> i was trying to get my resolution larger than 1024x768
[11:11] <jussi01> Access: yes, if you dont mind the extra libs...
[11:11] <cBot_v2r0> Can install onto a USB drive without changing the first (local) hard disk mbr?
[11:11] <xshadowfire> gnome works again, but i'm still stuck at 1024x768 :/
[11:11] <JerKB> ah... see I op on some channels on other servers and find great need of a nicklist if I have one.
[11:11] <jussi01> !info quanta
[11:11] <ubotu> quanta: web development environment for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2382 kB, installed size 5728 kB
[11:11] <ramu> and if i splited partitions and have one with windows ant another with linux. How to reac particion with windows in terminal?
[11:11] <gregshallard> How do I switch user in Terminal?
[11:11] <Access> libs are the least of my troubles...
[11:12] <Sarah____> any ideas?
[11:12] <jussi01> Access: feel free to join me in #dib5sn
[11:12] <Sarah____> mybe a bios problem....????
[11:12] <Wolf23> heguru:  Wb
[11:12] <Sarah____> ill check my settings
[11:12] <jussi01> Sarah____: does your router have inbuilt firewall?
[11:12] <Sarah____> yea, cant turn it off
[11:12] <xshadowfire> i wonder if i'll learn anything by lurking here all day
[11:12] <Sarah____> mum wants it on (lol)
[11:13] <Access> jussi01: cool thanks will do
[11:13] <xshadowfire> well anyways
[11:13] <xshadowfire> my resolution is still capped at 1024x768, how would i go about getting 1280x1024?
[11:13] <jussi01> Sarah____: just make sure port 80 is enabled...
[11:13] <jussi01> !resolution
[11:13] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:13] <_Jaak_> StoneNewt, nope, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth
[11:13] <Sarah____> oh that is, i know that much
[11:14] <Sarah____> ok ill set my bios to default then see
[11:14] <xshadowfire> so it's not a problem with my driver?
[11:14] <Sarah____> because no one else seams to have this problem
[11:15] <xshadowfire> because fglrxinfo is showing some mesa stuff and not ati
[11:15] <Wolf23> heguru:  r u there?
[11:15] <dissection> Is the ATI driver installed, xshadowfire?
[11:15] <andin> ya
[11:16] <andin> ddd
[11:16] <xshadowfire> i'm not really sure <.<
[11:16] <Boing> jussi01 I simply want to issue commands at the terminal on my ssh session like mplayer <some avi file> and have the output on the remote display - do I really need vnc for that? thanks
[11:16] <k4u> Hi, i'm having difficulties with my external hard-disk. i can't write to it. how to fix that?
[11:16] <ok21> i totally failed to copy my files from crashed ubuntu, my MBR isnt working, and I tried all way to boot from live cd and get to the files(after having mounted the ext3, in new directory) I cant get to copy the files in my USB drive
[11:16] <thedonvaughn> k4u, how are you trying to write to it?  errors?
[11:17] <dissection> xshadowfire: Then you might have to do it manually. Though I was able to use the maximum resolution even before installing my nVidia driver.
[11:17] <hasan> was ist das den fr ein sch.....
[11:17] <k4u> thedonvaughn: I want to make a new folder, and then it just tells me that it can't write
[11:17] <ok21> please help
[11:17] <thedonvaughn> k4u, again, how are you trying to write to it?
[11:17] <xshadowfire> i'm still kind of confused on this fglrx thing
[11:17] <thedonvaughn> k4u, and what's a folder? :)
[11:18] <hinogi> messed around with gutsy i guess ok21 hihi
[11:18] <gregshallard> Hey, I'm using XDMCP is there a way I can switch users?
[11:18] <k4u> thedonvaugh: just the root folder of my external hard disk.. could it be because it's ntfs?
[11:18] <jussi01> Boing: no, just add a & after the command - use mplayer
[11:18] <xshadowfire> i was looking at the ati website for drivers, but my friend just told me to go to the BinaryDriverHowto/ATI guide
whats gusty ? I have ubuntu
[11:18] <k4u> !gutsy |ok32
[11:18] <ubotu> ok32: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[11:18] <thedonvaughn> k4u, you probably don't have permission as your normal user.  you will probably have to use "sudo mkdir" or change ownership of the parent directory
[11:18] <k4u> !gutsy | ok21
[11:18] <ubotu> ok21: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[11:18] <k4u> sorry for wrong name:p
[11:19] <thedonvaughn> k4u, yah you gotta do some work to mount ntfs as read-write.
[11:19] <thedonvaughn> k4u, check the wiki
[11:19] <gregshallard> Hey, I'm using XDMCP is there a way I can switch users?
[11:19] <k4u> thedonvaugh: okay, thnx
[11:19] <PakYaw> JerKB: try using F12 to scroll down the name list
[11:19] <thedonvaughn> k4u, np.  i haven't done it myself.  no windows here
[11:19] <xshadowfire> what kind of external is formatted as ntfs? :/
[11:19] <ok21> when I use this software https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows (m y MBR is up but only windows is working) it doesnt even show linux partition in it
[11:19] <k4u> xshadowfire: mine!
[11:19] <hinogi> actually you just have to install package ntfs-3g for ntfs read write ^
[11:19] <D4N`> I'll soon find out
[11:19] <ok21> I mean easy BCD 1.7
[11:19] <xshadowfire> did you format it yourself or something
[11:19] <k4u> hinogi: oh, okay:p
[11:20] <hinogi> BUT
[11:20] <thedonvaughn> k4u, there ya go :)
[11:20] <hinogi> it can mess up the whole NTFS file system
[11:20] <Sarah____> ok its not a bios problem
[11:20] <Boing> jussi01 thanks - do I need to kill the gdm on the remote machine first?
[11:20] <k4u> xshadowfire: no, but over some ammount of Gig you can't format in anything else than NTFS in windows;)
[11:20] <Sarah____> but it seams people on windows are having my problem
[11:20] <jussi01> Boing: no
[11:20] <xshadowfire> i guess
[11:20] <ok21> can anyway I can copy files from a ssytem after I have mounted them ? I am talking about using live cd to enter my system
[11:20] <k4u> hinogi: err, that is really bad if that happens, if something happens to that hard disk i will kill myself...
[11:20] <hinogi> i would rather format in ext3 then get the driver for ext2 for windows
[11:21] <gregshallard> Hey, I'm using XDMCP is there a way I can switch users? and still leave the sessoin open on the remote computer?
[11:21] <hinogi> reading ntfs is not the problem but writing
[11:21] <xshadowfire> just get ntfs3g
[11:21] <xshadowfire> jdailey67, you're not alone
[11:21] <k4u> xshadowfire: But really, it shouldn't mess up that disk...
 are you telling me ?
[11:21] <Boing> jussi01 sorry to go on but I can't get it to work - do I need to be at the login screen on the remote machine? cheers
[11:22] <xshadowfire> ok21: i was talking to k4u
[11:22] <ok21> ok sorry
[11:22] <xshadowfire> and what messed up what disk?
[11:22] <k4u> xshadowfire: Nothing messed it up..
[11:22] <hinogi> i have some problems with synaptics or package update or installation
[11:22] <k4u> xshadowfire: it shouldn't get messed up
[11:22] <hinogi> it slows the whole system very badly
[11:22] <jdailey67> !bash elf |self
[11:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bash elf - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:22] <jussi01> Boing: what you can do is login to ssh from the command line. then run mplayer& and it should start mplayer over ssh
[11:22] <hinogi> i also get terminal timeouts
[11:22] <xshadowfire> why would it get messed up
[11:23] <hinogi> and no i'm not using gutsy currently
[11:23] <oasisfai> whois ome
[11:23] <jdailey67> !complete removal |self
[11:23] <[Spooky] > Hey, im trying to get hold of the md5sums for the isos but i cant find it... You have any idea?
[11:23] <jussi01> !botabuse > jdailey67
[11:24] <jdailey67> sorry, I'm not sure where to look.
[11:24] <gregshallard> Can anyone help me with XDMCP?
[11:24] <xshadowfire> i'm still kind of confused on the fglrx thing
[11:24] <gregshallard> !XDMCP
[11:24] <ubotu> xdmcp is the X Display Manger Control Protocol -- look at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/ to find out how to configure it
[11:24] <MeRodent> jdailey67, you don't need | self if you want ubuntu to reply.
[11:24] <xshadowfire> if i use that, do i stll have to download ati drivers from the amd site?
[11:24] <Boing> jussi01 yes I can login no probs, and mplayer is definitely playing because I don't get any "can't open display" errors but the output on my screen is just the normal login window - it doesn't seem to be taking control of e display
[11:24] <davide> hi. i'm tying to configure my 'siemens gigaset pc card 108'. can somebody tell my wich fireware i need for this?
[11:24] <thedonvaughn> xshadowfire, no that is ati driver's from amd's site.  ubuntu maintainer packaged it for you.
[11:25] <xshadowfire> so how do i know if i have the driver installed correctly...because fglrxinfo is show mesa
[11:25] <xshadowfire> showing*
[11:25] <thedonvaughn> !fglrx > xshadowfire
[11:25] <jussi01> !ssh
[11:25] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[11:25] <thedonvaughn> what does your /etc/X11/xorg.conf say?  you can also cat /var/log/X.0.log|grep fglrx to see if you see anything
[11:25] <thedonvaughn> xshadowfire, ^^
[11:26] <phyrewall> anyone able to get Envy to work under Gutsy?
[11:26] <MeRodent> !gutsy | phyrewall
[11:26] <sw_> Hi, the latest kernel update under 7.10-beta killed the ipw3945 support (interface doesn't appear in iwconfig).. is the issue already reported ?
[11:26] <ubotu> phyrewall: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[11:26] <k4u> well how about that.. ntfs-3g IS already installed:\
[11:27] <jdailey67> Let me post my problem again.
[11:27] <k4u> DOH, and there is a tool, NTFS config...
[11:27] <jdailey67> I have 7.04 working fine.
[11:27] <alexises> sas apres une maj g eu un prob de serveur x
[11:27] <jdailey67> I have installed a software based on eclipse called Intalio, that runs as a stand alone
[11:27] <jdailey67> I have then installed eclipse from apt-get because intalio has a rule about not using their customized eclipse for other eclipse projects
[11:27] <jdailey67> I then could no longer get eclipse to launch using
[11:27] <jdailey67> "sudo ./eclipse" which used to work.
[11:27] <xshadowfire> ummm
[11:27] <jdailey67> I have checked etc/environment, ect/profile, etc/bash.bashrc
[11:27] <jdailey67> I have then removed eclipse using synaptic (apt-get)
[11:27] <jdailey67> I now get "command not found" when I use "sudo ./eclipse" in the proper place
[11:27] <jdailey67> help.
[11:27] <phyrewall>  uh.. thanks for the explaination of Gutsy... not the problem. I was asking about Envy...
[11:27] <thedonvaughn> !ntfs-3g | k4u
[11:27] <ubotu> k4u: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[11:27] <thedonvaughn> that guide tells you how k4u
[11:27] <alexises> et non clavier est en qwerty
[11:27] <MeRodent> phyrewall, read the bit about where gutsy support is.
[11:28] <k4u> thedonvaugh: Thnx
[11:28] <thedonvaughn> np
[11:28] <Sarah____> WhAT the hell is wronG!!??
[11:28] <xshadowfire> thedonvaugh: do you want the whole thing or something
[11:28] <Boing> jussi01 sorry where does the & go?
[11:29] <thedonvaughn> xshadowfire, no just see if you see any entries for fglrx
[11:29] <k4u> thedonvaugh: Could it be that the EHD is via USB?
[11:29] <phyrewall> uh, have you looked at that wiki? There's nothing there.
[11:29] <xshadowfire> entries for fglrx?
[11:29] <thedonvaughn> Sarah___, have you tried disconnecting your router and going directly to your cable modem?  If you can ping a domain and get a response back but not connect to any web site or establish any other kind of connection sounds like something is wrong firewall or routing wise
[11:29] <thedonvaughn> xshadowfire, yah
[11:30] <thedonvaughn> xshadowfire, in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:30] <thedonvaughn> xshadowfire, honestly, i'd just follow the fglrx guide at the wiki.  It tells you step by step how to do it properly
[11:30] <thedonvaughn> !fglrx | xshadowfire
[11:30] <ubotu> xshadowfire: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:30] <xshadowfire> i tried :/
[11:30] <Sarah____> no no no not that
[11:30] <dhruv> i just installed tapioca from source
[11:30] <dhruv> how do i start it
[11:31] <thedonvaughn> Sarah___, no you haven't?  Well try it.
[11:31] <MeRodent> phyrewall, support for gutsy is on #ubuntu+1
[11:31] <Sarah____> wait
[11:31] <thedonvaughn> xshadowfire, won't hurt to start from the top and do it again. :)
[11:31] <k4u> oh crap!:|
[11:31] <Sarah____> i mean, i can use it fine on my mums computer (ubuntu 7.10)
[11:31] <k4u> Now EVERY disk is gone?:|
[11:31] <phyrewall> ah. ok. Thanks.
[11:31] <k4u> HELP:|
[11:31] <thedonvaughn> xshadowfire, i think you re-wrote it back to closed source ati with your dpkg-reconfigure
[11:32] <dhruv> anyone knows tapioca here
[11:32] <tech0007> hi everyone!
[11:32] <dissection> What do I need to do in order to increase/reduce my screen's brightness?
[11:32] <MeRodent> who maintains the ubuto factoids?
[11:32] <k4u> dissection: try the buttons on your screen?
[11:32] <thedonvaughn> Sarah___, ok, the alternative is to continue to beg for help in the channel.  I'm offering help.  Good luck.
[11:32] <erUSUL> MeRodent: the ops of the channel mainly
[11:32] <murlidhar> is there any way where my pc recognizes my phone as pen-drive instead of memory card
[11:32] <dissection> k4u: Its a laptop.
[11:33] <k4u> dissection: try the FN keys
[11:33] <xshadowfire> thedonvaughn: what exactly does this mean
[11:33] <xshadowfire>  Generate a new set of module dependencies so the fglrx driver starts properly.
[11:33] <Sarah____> ive found that people in XP have the same problem and i found one website with ubuntu 6.06 having this problem
[11:33] <dissection> k4u: They don't work.
[11:33] <Sarah____> so im trying some fixes
[11:33] <MeRodent> erUSUL, is there anywhere we can suggest changes.   I don't know how often people seem to miss the part about joining #ubuntu+1 when requesting support for gutsy.
[11:33] <k4u> dissection: What brand is it?
[11:33] <alexises> ou on chenge la disposition du clavier
[11:33] <dissection> k4u: Vaio
[11:34] <thedonvaughn> xshadowfire, u won't have to manually generate the modules.  ubuntu should take care of that for you.  read the wiki line by line :)
[11:34] <thedonvaughn> xshadowfire, it'll give you all the commands
[11:34] <k4u> dissection: see if there are drivers on the website of the manufacturere
[11:34] <dissection> k4u: They support only Windows.
[11:34] <xshadowfire> didn't tell me to insert anything in there
[11:34] <xshadowfire> it just skips to sudo depmod -a
[11:34] <k4u> dissection: hmm.. try ubuntuforums.org
[11:34] <k4u> dissection: maybe someone else has the same problem
[11:35] <Sarah____> O M G
[11:35] <Sarah____> I FIXED IT
[11:35] <Sarah____> WOOOHOOOO!!!!
[11:35] <tech0007> sarah___ fixed what?
[11:35] <dissection> Cause of not being able to reduce the brightness, my laptop hardly lasts for 90 minutes on battery.
[11:36] <Sarah____> the reason i could ping a server but not browse it was because my router does not support ipv6! i turned it off and it works fine!!!
[11:36] <Sarah____> now to try pidgen
[11:36] <murlidhar> dissection: is ur laptop toshiba?
[11:36] <tech0007> sarah__ wooohooo!
 can you help with a probable newbie issue around installing and uninstalling software?
[11:36] <dissection> murlidhar: No, Sony Vaio.
[11:37] <tech0007> jdailey67  what is it exactly?
[11:37] <erUSUL> MeRodent: you can do it talking to ubotu itself... (the comad is iirc factoid is whatever) the change will be forwarded to a special channel and aproved or denied  by an op
[11:37] <thedonvaughn> Sarah___, see if you would have listened to me you have found it was your router an hour ago :)
I have uninstalled eclipse from synaptic but for some reason, there is something still there.
[11:38] <erUSUL> ubotu tell MeRodent about ubotu | MeRodent see priv msg from ubotu
[11:38] <hinogi> i have a problem with resources in feisty fawn, lately all applications suck up all CPU power
[11:38] <Sarah____> haha, crappy routers... do u know how to turn ipv6 completly... i turned it off just for firefox and pidgen wont connect nether will sudo
[11:38] <jdailey67> It is interfering with a stand alone install of eclipse.
[11:38] <hahaha> lit
[11:38] <hinogi> the gnome-system-monitor runs with 50%cpu currently for example
[11:39] <hahaha> nick hahaha
[11:39] <hahaha> #channel
[11:39] <tech0007> jdailey67 try sudo dpkg -P eclipse
[11:41] <BobSapp> how do i determine which version of ubuntu im running in?
[11:41] <dissection> BobSapp: uname -a
[11:41] <BobSapp> Linux ogami 2.6.22-10-generic #1 SMP Wed Aug 22 08:11:52 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:41] <BobSapp> returns that ^
[11:41] <dissection> Hmm
 ok.  Did that.  Is that the same as "complete removal" in the graphical form?
[11:41] <tech0007> BobSapp you can try cat /etc/issue
[11:41] <BobSapp> ah thanks
[11:42] <tech0007> jdailey67 yup it will purge that package completely from ur system
[11:42] <xshadowfire> by the way, thedonvaugh: would it be a problem if my radeon's under 9500 <.<
ok.  that didn't work on the surface of it.  could it be I have to reboot for changes to take effect - to parrot a windows phrase.
[11:44] <tech0007> jdailey67 usually u dont have to..any error messages?
[11:44] <ramu> how to close stuck game in Wine? :D
[11:44] <k4u> ramu: sudo xkill wine
[11:45] <karamazov> salut
[11:45] <ramu> in terminal?
[11:45] <k4u> ramu: yes
[11:46] <karamazov> I'm french
[11:46] <karamazov> hi
[11:46] <erUSUL> !fr
[11:46] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:46] <ramu> nothing.... sill in screan
[11:46] <karamazov> thank
[11:46] <ramu> :(
[11:46] <k4u> ramu: then someone lese should help you.. i'm also still a noob @ ubuntu
I had a theory that the eclipse install was interfering b/c I would get an err msg bash ELF when trying to do a simple source eclipse in the proper directory of the stand-alone.  That used to work prior to the apt-get install of Eclipse.  i.e the stand alone does not depend on any installed packages other than java - which I did get going fine.
[11:47] <ramu> How to Close WINE with broken games?
so, now the message is still "command not found" when I do "sudo source eclipse"
[11:48] <ramu> its in front of screan
[11:48] <ramu> any task maneger? :D
[11:48] <ramu> ...
[11:49] <connectedmico> howdy
[11:50] <tech0007> jdailey maybe ur .bashrc is mixed up...try copying a new one from another user account on ur system
[11:50] <ramu> Then I'll just restart...
[11:50] <ramu> :(
I did look at that, and at environment and profile, but I will take that advice.  Thanks.
[11:51] <connectedmico> can anyone please tell me witch is the package to the M$ fonts compatibility with openoffice
[11:51] <xshadowfire> would i be able to use fglrx if my radeon is under 9500?
[11:54] <r-wolf> how do I get my env vars to be visible everywhere in the system, not only in Bash?
[11:54] <kernel_geek> but it your bash.rc
[11:54] <kernel_geek> I am not sure I know hat you mean ?
[11:55] <gokhan_> i just downloaded apache2 also installed mod_python but when i type "localhost" on the browser it just shows the "var/www/" dir and there is a apache2-default folder so if i click it then i can see "it works
[11:55] <loquitus_of_borg> How can I ask find to give me a list of all the files that are x hrs or x minutes old, or that were created after a certain date/time?
[11:56] <r-wolf> kernel_geek: i've installed java and put the vars into /etc/bash.bashrc
[11:56] <r-wolf> kernel_geek: when I start eclipse from bash, it uses proper JVM, but being launched from gnome it tries to use kaffe VM
[11:57] <kernel_geek> and presume you restarted bash ?? You  can set your enirmentel vars in a startup file ??
[11:57] <gokhan_> i just downloaded apache2 also installed mod_python but when i type "localhost" on the browser it just shows the "var/www/" dir and there is a apache2-default folder so if i click it then i can see "it works" so how can i make it work correctly?
[11:57] <r-wolf> kernel_geek: I did a reboot after that
[11:58] <kernel_geek> Have you tryed putting it in a startup file ??
[11:58] <kernel_geek> OR put it in your gnome startup.
[11:58] <xshadowfire> where's thedonvaughn when you need him ;_;
[11:58] <xshadowfire> would i be able to use fglrx if my radeon is under 9500?
[11:59] <kernel_geek> You could do a file search a file containg any of the old vars ??
[11:59] <r-wolf> kernel_geek: well, bash.bashrc is the startup file, isn't it?
[12:00] <r-wolf> kernel_geek: where is the gnome startup located?
[12:01] <kernel_geek> SystemPrefsSessions
[12:01] <kernel_geek> than add a new one
[12:01] <kernel_geek> *then
[12:01] <bigbang15> the gnome-main-menus search bar requires my to press enter before it searches. on other computers this hasnt happend, the search contents is opened in a beagle window not on the slab. why is this? am i missing a dependency?
[12:01] <r-wolf> kernel_geek: ok, I'll try, thanks
[12:01] <kernel_geek> No bash rc is not a startup file
[12:01] <kernel_geek> its only when you open a term
[12:01] <kernel_geek> it wont work globally
[12:02] <kernel_geek> then justrestat gnome
[12:02] <kernel_geek> ctrlAltBackspace
[12:03] <beni_> !WLAN > beni_
[12:04] <antonio__> good morning gentlemen
[12:05] <antonio__> guys i'm looking for some programe to manage the speed of cpu temeperatures etc etc
[12:07] <Kenny3> my graphics tablet doesnt work, and there is no official linux driver for it (maybe unoficial ?) , what do i do now to get it work?
[12:08] <Cuteboi> Hi Friends ...
[12:09] <bigbang15> the gnome-main-menus search bar requires my to press enter before it searches. on other computers this hasnt happend, the search contents is opened in a beagle window not on the slab. why is this? am i missing a dependency?
[12:09] <antonio__> how i can manage the freq of my cpu my 3d cards etc etc?
[12:09] <Cuteboi> I need a help friends ...
[12:09] <Cuteboi> Can u help me ... ?
[12:10] <jonvs92> 
[12:10] <kernel_geek> ok go for it...
[12:10] <Cuteboi> I have Ubuntu 5.10
[12:10] <kernel_geek> yes
[12:10] <Cuteboi> How to install VLC player in it ?
[12:10] <kernel_geek> hang on i will get you a link
[12:10] <Cuteboi> Thanx friend .....
[12:10] <soundray> Kenny3: if it's a USB device, enter lsusb and search the web for the USB ID.
[12:10] <Cuteboi> Plz instruct me ya ....
[12:11] <sdrowkcab> who can help me with grub?
[12:11] <Cuteboi> I'm new to Ubuntu ...
[12:11] <Cuteboi> That'z why ...
[12:11] <kernel_geek> me in a sec i am an expert hold on :D
[12:11] <Cuteboi> Yes ... Mr.Kernel
[12:11] <soundray> sdrowkcab: no one, unless you ask a proper question.
[12:12] <kernel_geek> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_install_VLC_Multimedia_player
[12:12] <sdrowkcab> sorry
[12:12] <kernel_geek> thats  a guide to install vlc
[12:12] <Cuteboi> Oh ...
[12:12] <kernel_geek> You should really update your ubuntu bersion
[12:12] <sdrowkcab> why cant i boot into windows with grub?
[12:12] <Cuteboi> Another small help
[12:12] <kernel_geek> its now unsupported
[12:12] <Merijn> can I configure updates to auto-install everything that doesn't require a reboot?
[12:12] <Kenny3> soundray: i entered lsusb in terminal, but nothing happens
[12:12] <kernel_geek> current version 7.10
[12:12] <jeroen_> hey dudes!
[12:12] <Cuteboi> How to upgrade from 5.10 to 6.06 or higher versions ?
[12:13] <kernel_geek> download the iso from the ubutnu website
[12:13] <jeroen_> man I just clicked the update Icon.....122 updates :O
[12:13] <soundray> sdrowkcab: you need an entry for it in /boot/grub/menu.lst. The file contains a sample of how it should look.
[12:13] <vsayikiran> there are two  packages for azureus, one azureus and azureus gcj , i have java6 installed, which one i need to install
[12:13] <jeroen_> I finally got ubuntu to do what I want.
[12:13] <deauville88> hello
[12:13] <soundray> Kenny3: is that tablet connected via usb?
[12:13] <Cuteboi> I have the ubuntu 6.06 CD
[12:13] <Cuteboi> How to update using it ?
[12:13] <sdrowkcab> so i enter that in the terminal?
[12:13] <Kenny3> soundray: yes
[12:13] <kernel_geek> or you can peform an upgrade buts its not garuanteed to work and is a painn stking process
[12:14] <ramu> can anyone help me to fix video playing?
[12:14] <Kenny3> soundray: oh wait...
[12:14] <kernel_geek> put it in your cd drive
[12:14] <kernel_geek> and boot it
[12:14] <ramu> sount, and no video
[12:14] <Cuteboi> Then Mr.Kernel ....
[12:14] <oscar^pepper> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[12:14] <kernel_geek> well did you install your last ubuntu setup ??
[12:14] <oscar^pepper> I still can't get streaming to work on unbuntu
[12:14] <Cuteboi> Today only ...
[12:14] <Cuteboi> In a dual mode ...
[12:14] <kernel_geek> oh ok
[12:15] <Kenny3> soundray: im using virtual box on xp, so i think the tablet isnt connected directly to ubuntu...
[12:15] <soundray> Kenny3: that could make all the difference.
[12:15] <jeroen_> Now going to get it to play dvd's/
[12:15] <Cuteboi> Then ....
[12:15] <Cuteboi> How to proceed ... ?
[12:15] <soundray> !enter | Cuteboi
[12:15] <ubotu> Cuteboi: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:15] <vsayikiran> there are two  packages for azureus, one azureus and azureus gcj , i have java6 installed, which one i need to install
[12:15] <kernel_geek> Well the bad news is, that distro is terribly out of date and you *SHOULD* optionally install a newer version (you will have to sart again (wipe over the old installation) You dont have to tho, its just really old
[12:16] <soundray> vsayikiran: the former one.
[12:16] <Cuteboi> Ok sir ... I'm new ... That'z why ... I dont know these things ... I'll learn from my mistakes ...
[12:16] <antonio__> could anyone tell me how manage the freq of the cpu and the speed of cooling system?
[12:16] <askand> Is it possible to use an iPod nano 2 gen in Ubuntu?
[12:16] <kernel_geek> You dont have to call me sir ^o)
[12:16] <kernel_geek> yes
[12:16] <jeroen_> here I go...updating my system atm
[12:16] <vsayikiran> soundray: yes
[12:16] <soundray> antonio__: for the frequency, there is an applet called CPU Frequency Monitor
[12:16] <Cuteboi> Which version do i need to install ?
[12:17] <oscar^pepper> I'm sure he's been called worse LOL JK
[12:17] <kernel_geek> Do you mean just mount it or change playlists ??
[12:17] <mtholdenss> how can i fix my boot up, so i can also boot into xp which is on a seperate hard drive to ubuntu?>
[12:17] <kernel_geek> well the newest one if 7.07 i will grab you a link
[12:17] <Cuteboi> Ok ...
[12:17] <soundray> antonio__: for the fan speeds, try mbmon
[12:17] <Cuteboi> Is it shipped freely ?
[12:17] <soundray> !info mbmon | antonio__
[12:17] <ubotu> antonio__: mbmon: Hardware monitoring without kernel dependencies (text client). In component universe, is optional. Version 2.05-4 (feisty), package size 65 kB, installed size 196 kB (Only available for i386 hurd-i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386 knetbsd-i386)
[12:17] <oscar^pepper> mtholdenss:  get rid of xp.  unless you like that NETNSA.dll transmitting your online life to the NSA.
[12:17] <kernel_geek> Do you have a fast enough internet connection to download a cd ??
[12:18] <soundray> antonio__: if that doesn't work for you, you have to look into lm-sensors
[12:18] <soundray> !sensors | antonio__
[12:18] <ubotu> antonio__: You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[12:18] <Cuteboi> Ya ... I have ... But i can download only 1 GB per month
[12:18] <beavis> hey, how do I find out which packages I installed additionally?
[12:18] <jeroen_> mtholdenss: If you allready have windows installed, just install UBUNTU. the bootloader (GRUB) will autodetect and create a menu showing both ubuntu and windows
[12:18] <Dumptruck> my brother is interested in trying out ubuntu - what are some reasons he might want to use linux over windows - of course I have already explained the advantages of security
[12:18] <GBenemy> ok massive problem here
[12:18] <beavis> I want to remove everything I added manually
[12:18] <mtholdenss> oscar^pepper, i need it for video editing, and at the moment grub somewhat got rid of xp
[12:18] <xshadowfire> would i be able to use fglrx if my radeon is under 9500?
[12:18] <Cuteboi> Are you there Kernel ?
[12:18] <ramu> how to redownload codex?
[12:18] <soundray> beavis: so you can clone the system on another machine?
[12:19] <mtholdenss> i did install, and yet xp didn't come up, could it be both os are on seperate hard drive?
[12:19] <soundray> beavis: okay, sry
[12:19] <soundray> beavis: why do you want to do that?
[12:19] <askand>  Is it possible to use an iPod nano 2 gen in Ubuntu?
[12:19] <jeroen_> should be no problem. I did the same on my desktop
[12:19] <Hadeshorn> Hey people
[12:19] <Dumptruck> or is there a website he can check out?
[12:19] <Cuteboi> What'z up Kernel ?
[12:19] <Hadeshorn> anyone know of an app to record sound from an AVI
[12:19] <jeroen_> I ran both winXP and Fedora Core 6 back in the days
[12:19] <jeroen_> no problem at all
[12:19] <dhruv> how do i install tapioca
[12:19] <jeroen_> both on seperate hd's
[12:19] <oscar^pepper> Dumptruck:  well, personaly, I hated ubuntu at first.  but the more I use it, and the better I understand it, I LOVE It.  Why use anything else.  I think the biggest advatanges are, 1.  It's free and 2. all software connected to it is free.  Also, I was reinstalling windows at least 5 times a month.  Ubuntu is stable and i have not had to reinstall once.
[12:19] <BobSapp> Hadeshorn: mplayer
[12:19] <kernel_geek> Scroll down to the end and check you have a fast enough system. And then click download OR buy cd
[12:19] <kernel_geek> http://www.ubuntu.com/products/WhatIsUbuntu/desktopedition
[12:20] <Hadeshorn> Bobsapp cool
[12:20] <jeroen_> yeah let em ship a cd to you for free
[12:20] <beavis> soundray, I just want to remove things I added, lots of unneed stuff there now
[12:20] <mtholdenss> well how do i edit the boot list, cause the system still mounds the xp drive and can view my files but yeah
[12:20] <Hadeshorn> Bobsapp Mpayer?
[12:20] <jeroen_> I did that....it took some time, but I love it
[12:20] <Cuteboi> Thanx a lot !
[12:20] <BobSapp> mplayer -ao pcm:file=audiorip.wav file.avi
[12:20] <Dumptruck> thanks oscar
[12:20] <oscar^pepper> mtholdenss:  the easiest way to do it, is get shed of windows, altogether :P
[12:20] <vsayikiran> soundray: please tell me do i have to install azureus or azereus gcj
[12:20] <jeroen_> let me look it up for ya Mtholdenns.....
[12:20] <mtholdenss> how does nsa aget data?
[12:20] <dhruv> tapioca any1
[12:20] <Cuteboi> Can you give your mail ID so that i can mail you if i need any help ?
[12:21] <GBenemy> Basically: I edited my grub menu and stuff, changed the names, put windows as default stuff like that. and it was working fine for about a week until now. Now it's added all the partitions AGAIN so my list now has two of everything, and when attempting to boot ubuntu, it tells me the selected partition could not be mounted. Grub has redefined everything and put ubuntu as hd(0,1) when infact it is (0,2), so i have to edit the grub lines from startup e
[12:21] <GBenemy> verytime. I have tried edited my grub menu again, however each time i restart my computer to test, the grub just adds ANOTHER line for each OS, and puts the wrong mount point on them...
[12:21] <dhruv> tapioca on feisty
[12:21] <kernel_geek> No sprry i dont give email address out
[12:21] <soundray> beavis: I suggest you do it selectively. First, do a 'sudo apt-get autoclean' to remove all unneeded deb files from the cache.
[12:21] <oscar^pepper> mtholdenss:  dll files are commands on your computer,  kind of like the old .dat files on dos programs.  NETNSA.dll should speak volumes.
[12:21] <BobSapp> Hadeshorn: you can even set mplayer to start and stop playing a video at a certain frame or time using the -endpos and -ss switches
[12:21] <antonio__> thanks guys
[12:21] <mtholdenss> thank you so much, if i could edit video, strip audio from videso i would get rid of windows, oh and also be able to access shared itunes library too, i would get rid of windows..
[12:21] <jeroen_> here ya go Mtholdenss
[12:21] <jeroen_> http://boff.wordpress.com/2007/01/17/editing-bootgrubmenulst-to-change-the-grub-boot-menu/
[12:21] <kernel_geek> You can find me in here or in #gentoo
[12:21] <antonio__> u're gentlemen !
[12:21] <mtholdenss> thanks so much
[12:21] <antonio__> bye
[12:22] <kernel_geek> by
[12:22] <Hadeshorn> bobsapp is it in the repos?
[12:22] <soundray> beavis: then 'cd /var/cache/apt/archives ; ls -srS'. The biggest packages are at the bottom of that list, so you gain most by removing those.
[12:22] <dhruv> tapioca on feisty
[12:22] <BobSapp> should be i normally just apt-get install mplayer
[12:22] <soundray> vsayikiran: I did
[12:22] <amadeux> Is my standard feisty using ALSA or OSS to play sounds? Or does it depend on the application? Some apps play sounds with distortions, and on Windows I could turn up the master volume and the pcm volume to 100% without distorting
[12:22] <soundray> vsayikiran: azureus is what you need.
[12:23] <jeroen_> gonna change my desktop wallpaper....the brown thing isn't my thing
[12:23] <Hadeshorn> bobsapp so its mplayer then?
[12:23] <oscar^pepper> Dumptruck:  what I DON'T like about ubuntu, is I can't install my twain driver for my video camera under WINE.  I can install my software under WINE, but the twain drive won't install and I cannot pull my videos off my camera.  But, that may change soon.  either they'll allow for it, or my video camera's manufacture may decide to do something in linux.
[12:23] <BobSapp> Hadeshorn: yeah
[12:23] <Cuteboi> Ok ... Thanx a lot !
[12:23] <BobSapp> Hadeshorn: the package is mplayer
[12:23] <GBenemy> anyone??
[12:23] <soundray> !sound > amadeux, please read ubotu's private message
[12:23] <soundray> !please | GBenemy
[12:23] <ubotu> GBenemy: Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience
[12:24] <BobSapp> oscar^pepper: is it possible for you to install support for your camera in linux?
[12:24] <Hadeshorn> Bobsapp its installing
[12:24] <mtholdenss> now at the moment i got the beta, if i keep upgrading, i won't need to download the disc image of the final version of 7.10? right?
[12:24] <vsayikiran> soundray: what did you do?
[12:24] <rhalff> Hi I'm at the console of the beta installer cd, X just failed and I changed the driver to nvidia instead of nv, any clue on how I can continue the installation process ?
[12:24] <kernel_geek> yes
[12:24] <vsayikiran> which one to install azureus or azureus-gcj
[12:24] <kernel_geek> change it back to nv
[12:24] <jodih2> hi guys
[12:24] <mtholdenss> yes to what?
[12:24] <kernel_geek> You cant do installer on nvidia
[12:24] <rhalff> kernel_geek, why not ?
[12:24] <BobSapp> oscar^pepper: and then have wine forward the sane scanner to twain under wine?
[12:24] <kernel_geek> the is no nvidia module on the instaler
[12:24] <jodih2> can someone help with a blond question?
[12:25] <oscar^pepper> BobSapp:  oh, it will work.  with movie viewer, but only as an .avi file.  I can create them into mpg's. But, as far as hooking the camera up to usb and pulling off a video using movie viewer, yeah, that works.  just not my proprietary software.
[12:25] <kernel_geek> YOu mena the ubuntu installation cd right /?
[12:25] <jodih2> how do i delete a .swp file
[12:25] <soundray> GBenemy: your problem is a pair of lines in the menu.lst file:  ### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST and ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
[12:25] <jdailey67> hi.  I am getting "command not found" for sudo ./eclipse in a directory where there is an eclipse executible file.
[12:25] <oscar^pepper> I can't create them into .mpg files rather
[12:25] <rhalff> kernel_geek, well it just loaded so I guess there is.
[12:25] <kernel_geek> You mean on the ubunntu installation cd right ??
[12:25] <rhalff> kernel_geek, and nv doesn't work for me
[12:25] <BobSapp> "proprietary software", meh.
[12:25] <rhalff> kernel_geek, yes for the beta installer
[12:26] <jeroen_> boy ow boy.....I really love theagonna reboot
[12:26] <soundray> GBenemy: everything between those lines is considered by ubuntu as "its own". Everything outside is "manually configured". So make sure you leave those lines alone when you edit that file.
[12:26] <kernel_geek> why dsnt nv work for you
[12:26] <GBenemy> soundray: the windows part is out of those, at the top, i have checked through it, and the only thing wrong is repeats of all the ubuntu partitions, and everytime i delete them, and restart the doubles get added again
[12:26] <jeroen_> system needs restart after 122 updates :P
[12:26] <kernel_geek> You can put it as nvidia after install
[12:26] <soundray> GBenemy: put it on the pastebin pls: paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:26] <kernel_geek> if nv dont work then use vesa or vga
[12:26] <oscar^pepper> BobSapp:  yeah. lol  I may get a seperate apple computer not connected to the Internet just to do my videos.  Until either my video camera company catches up to linux, or linux allows for the installation of the twain driver.
[12:26] <jodih2> how do i delete a file im new and i forgot the command
[12:26] <rhalff> kernel_geek: I think because I have a 22Inch lcd and the nv can't do that resolution but the nvidia driver can
[12:26] <rooper> Hi, is there a way to check if my swap is working, how much of it is being used etc? - I tried 'df -h, -H' but I do not see any /swap :(
[12:27] <bXi> the most important thing to backup for a reinstall is /home right?
[12:27] <BobSapp> oscar^pepper: It would be strange for wine not to have a twain wrapper
[12:27] <kernel_geek> bloody hell 22inches thats tiny ;) ok hmm
[12:27] <BobSapp> someone should make that
[12:27] <jodih2> anyone there?
[12:27] <kernel_geek> rm
[12:27] <kernel_geek> is the command
[12:27] <astro76> rooper, free -m
[12:27] <rhalff> kernel_geek: well ok the resolution that comes with a 22Inch :p
[12:27] <jodih2> kernelgeek thanks alot
[12:27] <soundray> rooper: try 'free'
[12:27] <kernel_geek> a folder ou use rm -r
[12:27] <dhruv> kernel geek help me with tapioca
[12:28] <rooper> astro76: thanks :) - phew, ok I do have a swap file.. I was worried I may have partitioned wrong heh
[12:28] <rhalff> kernel_geek: anyways, gimme the magic command to continue setup! :-`d
[12:28] <oscar^pepper> BobSapp:  well, i mean, i can install everything.  software, even the driver for the camera. but it wont the twain driver and i cannot pull off my videos to edit them.  They will under the linux software.
[12:28] <vsayikiran> i have sun java 6 installed in my system , which one i have to install azureus or azureus -gcj
[12:28] <kernel_geek> ok hmm
[12:28] <kernel_geek> try changing it to vesa or vga
[12:28] <kernel_geek> try both
[12:28] <dhruv> kernel_geek tapioca help please
[12:28] <oscar^pepper> but only as an .avi file
[12:28] <BobSapp> I cant get nvidia working on gutsy
[12:28] <rooper> What is /lrm/ ? ...
[12:28] <GBenemy> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39833/
[12:28] <kernel_geek> i am busy
[12:28] <jdailey67> rooper:  you might need to use sudo rm -r on directories you don't have privileges to.
[12:28] <kernel_geek> hang on
[12:28] <oscar^pepper> oh heck
[12:28] <soundray> vsayikiran: why are you repeating that, when I already answered it? azureus!
[12:28] <oscar^pepper> i finally got my nvidia drivers to work
[12:28] <swarm> BobSapp, if i wasn't so damned tired
[12:28] <kernel_geek> what is tapioca ?
[12:28] <swarm> i'd tell u how i did it
[12:28] <jdailey67> rooper, where are you getting /lrm/?
[12:29] <jeroen_> I'm back
[12:29] <rooper> jdailey67: Why do I want to recursively delete everything?
[12:29] <darkchr0n0s> a veggie/fruit = tapioca
[12:29] <swarm> 8600gts on gutsy
[12:29] <dhruv> kernel_geek tapioca is a voip framework
[12:29] <rhalff> kernel_geek, problem is, X isn't active anymore, and I need a command to get going again, startx won't do it, so I'm searching for something like continue_setup or something
[12:29] <rooper> jdailey67: df -h
[12:29] <jeroen_> fully updated the system:D
[12:29] <oscar^pepper> BobSapp:  the best way is go to the nvidia website to install the drivers.
[12:29] <vsayikiran> soundray: but there are 2 packages with the same name
[12:29] <kernel_geek> try X ;D
[12:29] <rooper> lrm                    132M    20M   112M  15% /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/volatile
[12:29] <kernel_geek> or gdm as root
[12:29] <rooper> That's what it says
[12:29] <mytime> !x
[12:29] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:29] <msingh> will a 56MB PCIe(TM) x16 ATI Radeon(TM) X1300 Pro w/TV-Out, VGA and DVI  card work on ubuntu?
[12:29] <BobSapp> ok ill give it a  try then
[12:29] <msingh> or are there no ATI drivers?
[12:29] <swarm> yes msingh
[12:29] <kernel_geek> thats what i just said gdm as root ;D
[12:29] <BobSapp> nothing to loose since my /home is on a separate drive
[12:29] <msingh> swarm, right now, or in a few years?
[12:29] <darkchr0n0s> msingh : use official ati drivers
[12:30] <swarm> right now
[12:30] <kernel_geek> 
[12:30] <msingh> darkchr0n0s, oh ok. cheers. :)
[12:30] <oscar^pepper> BobSapp:  i tried to download the package from add/remove applications. that was a no go.  My screen was garbled with garbage.
[12:30] <swarm> 512mb video cards work fine. :)
[12:30] <GBenemy> every time the computer reboots it adds another of all the ubuntu ones, and keep putting them at (0,1) when they're at (0,2)
[12:30] <rooper> That was my other, and last, question... - does Ubuntu always install I386 kernel by default? - I could have sword the last time I installed it, well Xubuntu that it installed  I686?
[12:30] <swarm> your card is nothing special
[12:30] <rhalff> kernel_geek: hm ok, the kernel driver is loaded of nvidia, but there ain't no X driver, so you're correct.
[12:30] <kernel_geek> Sorry i dont know what that tropicia thing is
[12:30] <rooper> sworn*
[12:30] <jeroen_> now for the main part...NTFS3G
[12:30] <kernel_geek> told you :p
[12:30] <dhruv> kernel_geek http://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Ftapioca-voip.sourceforge.net%2Fwiki%2Findex.php%2FInstallation_Guide&ei=PrUIR9KHKY7wswLwiqT4Bw&usg=AFQjCNHKmmBK0gdRVGP9Gc7EOAcCkgZRYg&sig2=xvFudFRJLHLXuO4q_llh8A is the installation guide
[12:30] <oscar^pepper> I did finally get my nvidia card to work, by going to the nvidia website
[12:31] <kernel_geek> ok so what desnt work then
[12:31] <dhruv> kernel_geek ok
[12:31] <rhalff> kernel_geek: but X is useless, I want to continue setup..
[12:31] <kernel_geek> rahallf:try vesa or vga
[12:31] <rhalff> X works btw with vesa.
[12:31] <kernel_geek> So its fixed then right ??
[12:31] <oscar^pepper> ok everyone.  Thank you for the chat.  I'll be back later. I want to learn how to get online streaming media to work on ubuntu.
[12:32] <kernel_geek> what do you mean continue setup just double click the intall icon
[12:32] <soundray> GBenemy: strange, I can't see a problem with that file. You might try and move the Windows entry to the end and make sure it boots by default by setting 'default 5'
[12:32] <soundray> GBenemy: if that stops the strange behaviour, consider reporting a bug.
[12:32] <GBenemy> soundray: no i need windows at the start, because it automatically boots the highlighted entry
[12:33] <soundray> GBenemy: read all of my line, please
[12:33] <GBenemy> yes i did
[12:33] <jeroen_> people, could you help me out here
[12:33] <soundray> GBenemy: it's very annoying to give advice here and not be listened to properly.
[12:34] <rhalff> kernel_geek: yes X is fixed, but I'm installing, X failed during install, so I went to a console and changed the x driver, now to vesa, which works. So I'm still at the console and now I want to continue installation, I'm at the step where X loads for the first time, so I want to restart that process so I can continue the installation of  Gutsy, just running X or startx won't start that process.
[12:34] <blahblahx> how do i open up ports in feisty?
[12:34] <jeroen_> I have an external HDD with an NTFS filesystem and I can't get the damn thing to get write support
[12:34] <Hadeshorn> Hey Bobsapp
[12:35] <kernel_geek> now you have to start the whole thing over sorry :D
[12:35] <soundray> !language | jeroen_
[12:35] <ubotu> jeroen_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:35] <amadeux> How can I get the (gnome?) terminal in feisty remember the window size/number of lines between sessions?
[12:35] <soundray> !ntfs-3g | jeroen_
[12:35] <ubotu> jeroen_: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[12:35] <jeroen_> sorry....
[12:35] <Hadeshorn> Bobsapp how do i start recording the wav at 6:26 and finish at 7:26?
[12:35] <jeroen_> thanx
[12:35] <kernel_geek> he didnt swear
[12:35] <rhalff> kernel_geek: ah ok
[12:35] <soundray> kernel_geek: it doesn't get more classical than that
[12:35] <blahblahx> so how do i choose which ports to open?
[12:35] <kernel_geek> ok
[12:35] <GBenemy> soundray: i'll brb needa restart and test. I edited all the ubuntu ones to (0,2) aswell, because that's where they are
[12:35] <kernel_geek> kool
[12:36] <soundray> GBenemy: are you sure? Where are they by /dev/ naming?
[12:36] <GBenemy> what does that mean?
[12:36] <blahblahx> How Do I Choose My Open Ports in Ubuntu Feisty Fawn
[12:37] <blahblahx> ?
[12:37] <GBenemy> well Vista is 0,1
[12:37] <soundray> GBenemy: why is Vista on the second partition? Are you sure that's correct?
[12:37] <amadeux> How can I get the (gnome?) terminal in feisty remember the window size/number of lines between sessions?
[12:37] <jeroen_> dudes, that's not working for me
[12:37] <soundray> GBenemy: remember grub starts counting at 0
[12:37] <asprofridis> hi guys
[12:37] <asprofridis> may i ask something?
[12:37] <GBenemy> yes i know
[12:37] <rijo> just ask the question
[12:38] <GBenemy> 0,0 is X: (in windows)
[12:38] <asprofridis> i ve installed the kismet prog but i cant find it to execute it
[12:38] <Frankie_> &j #ubuntu+1
[12:38] <jeroen_> hmm
[12:38] <soundray> GBenemy: what's your Ubuntu root partition? Check with mount
[12:38] <jeroen_> guess I'll have to stick to windows for writing NTFS stuff
[12:39] <GBenemy> what do you mean?
[12:39] <asprofridis> forget to say i am newby
[12:39] <GBenemy> jereon_: use ntfs-3g
[12:39] <jeroen_> I do use it
[12:39] <GBenemy> ah
[12:39] <soundray> GBenemy: run 'mount' in a terminal and tell me what partition is mounted on '/'
[12:39] <asprofridis> asprofridis@core2duolinux:
[12:39] <jeroen_> but it just doesn't see my external device as an external device and it doesn't detect internal devices
[12:39] <jeroen_> I have NTFS3G, but it's NOT working
[12:39] <kaptengu> asprofridis: you have to edit /etc/kismet/kismet.conf and add the line source
[12:40] <jeroen_> at least, not the way it should
[12:40] <GBenemy> /dev/sda3
[12:40] <michael_te> jeroen_: what options do you use?
[12:40] <asprofridis> /dev/sdd5
[12:40] <kaptengu> asprofridis: if you have intel network card source=ipw2200,eth1,whatever
[12:40] <asprofridis> yes but i cant find the kismet.conf
[12:40] <jeroen_> Well I just installed it, and checked the NTFS-CONFIG
[12:40] <tech0007> hi everyone!\
[12:40] <kernel_geek> hello
[12:40] <amadeux> How can I get the (gnome?) terminal in feisty remember the window size/number of lines between sessions?
[12:40] <jeroen_> but it doesn't recognize my internal HD (ntfs partition) and the external device.....dito
[12:41] <kaptengu> asprofridis: sudo gedit /etc/kismet/kismet.conf
[12:41] <kernel_geek> go into the prefrences it will be obvios than save the profile
[12:41] <soundray> GBenemy: okay then, see if it works.
[12:41] <GBenemy> ok
[12:41] <michael_te> jeroen_: i have something like "/dev/sda1 /media/c ntfs-3g defaults,user=1021 0 0" in my fstab and everything works
[12:41] <amadeux> Is Automatix down?
[12:41] <asprofridis> thanx very much
[12:41] <soundray> kaptengu: please recommend gksudo with graphical programs
[12:41] <jeroen_> ok mike....go private with me and tell me how you did it please
[12:42] <kernel_geek> ubutnuguide.org has loads of usefull stuff by the way
[12:42] <kaptengu> soundray: of course, sorry about that
[12:42] <kernel_geek> pages of it
[12:42] <asprofridis> kaptengu i want to edit the config file os as to add my wlan card
[12:42] <michael_te> jeroen_: I'm not registered so freenode won't let me send priavte messages
[12:43] <jeroen_> hmm too bad.
[12:43] <gogeta> not bad for a beta
[12:43] <gogeta> other then a miner grub fix
[12:43] <jeroen_> ok join a channel I will create.... /join jeroen-help
[12:43] <techtronic> hey any one know a front end for grub boot loader rather than one and black text?
[12:44] <kernel_geek> what like change the background
[12:44] <gogeta> you knoe i have seen them with backrounds befor
[12:44] <kernel_geek> i wrote a guide on that if you want a link ??
[12:44] <soundray> kernel_geek: I want it, please
[12:44] <kernel_geek> techtronic hang on i have a link
[12:44] <tech0007> anyone has cd key for quake 3 arena?
[12:44] <kernel_geek> yes in the shop
[12:45] <GBenemy> soundray: ok it worked(ish)...it added ANOTHER list of everything, (doubles again) and it made Ubuntu memtest the default, so i have to change default to 6. However, now i'm looking through the menu,lst but there are no doubles it's the same as before
[12:45] <soundray> tech0007: this isn't a warez channel
[12:45] <kernel_geek> No illegal stuff here
[12:45] <gogeta> tech0007 walmart does
[12:45] <kaptengu> asprofridis: look in the conf-file and you will find the lines about source
[12:45] <dgjones> !piracy | tech0007
[12:45] <ubotu> tech0007: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[12:45] <tech0007> its not pirated...i lost the original cd
[12:45] <gogeta> whats a quake 3 cd these days 10$
[12:46] <gogeta> whers a op when you need em
[12:46] <tech0007> i'll buy one if i need to..thanks guyz
[12:46] <Kenny3> can anyone assist me by installing my tablet drivers? i got those sources and stuff and dont get it to install...
[12:47] <kernel_geek> ok here is a link its on a gentoo webpage but it will still work for gentoo
[12:47] <kernel_geek> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Splash_image_in_GRUB
[12:47] <soundray> Kenny3: your virtualbox guest has access to USB devices now?
[12:47] <gogeta> i got my quake 3 cd right hear >:o
[12:47] <kernel_geek> by me :D
[12:47] <kernel_geek> you pay for the key not the disc
[12:47] <gogeta> yep
[12:47] <kernel_geek> The cd costs less than 25p
[12:47] <kernel_geek> the yes is like 20
[12:47] <Kenny3> soundray: yes, and i searched for the id and founr aiptektablet.sourceforge.net
[12:48] <gogeta> you pay for the key got that any disk works
[12:48] <ozlem> hi all please help me, I need to mount this external harddisk I got.. I just formatted it ext3 with gparted. It's like gparted can c it but I can't find the harddisk myself
[12:48] <kernel_geek> have you tryed looking in the feidge :D
[12:48] <GBenemy> go into a shop, pick up the cd, turn it over, write down the key, put the disk back, go home, enter the key and voila
[12:48] <kernel_geek> *fridge
[12:48] <gogeta> LOL
[12:48] <kernel_geek> no thatsis illegal
[12:48] <gogeta> that will get you banned
[12:48] <soundray> Kenny3: that's part of the standard kernel, aiptek.ko
[12:49] <tech0007> ozlem...how do u plug the ext hdd, is it usb?
[12:49] <ozlem> yes usb
[12:49] <gogeta> and that doesent work these days
[12:49] <soundray> Kenny3: I think you just need userspace software for it now.
[12:49] <gogeta> most stuff with keys are not activ untill scanned
[12:49] <ozlem> it's a harddisk case with an P-ATA harddisk in it
[12:49] <kernel_geek> it will be
[12:49] <GBenemy> not on recent/good software but old s*** like quake yeah
[12:49] <kernel_geek> /dev/sd?
[12:49] <tech0007> ozlem try lsusb
[12:49] <Kenny3> soundray: what i hav to do now?
[12:49] <tech0007> ozlem check which device port ur hdd is using
[12:49] <ozlem> ok 1 sec
[12:49] <Milux> hi, i must buy a webcam, what are the most compatible with linux?
[12:49] <kernel_geek> or cat /dev/usb (unpluged) and agin plugged in
[12:49] <kernel_geek> *sda
[12:49] <soundray> Kenny3: is the tablet connected at present?
[12:50] <kernel_geek> :p
[12:50] <Kenny3> soundray: yes
[12:50] <ozlem> ok this looks like the line of the usb hdd Bus 003 Device 014: ID 048d:8903 Integrated Technology Express, Inc.
[12:50] <astro76> !webcam | Milux
[12:50] <ubotu> Milux: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[12:50] <Milux> thank u
[12:50] <soundray> Kenny3: do a 'lsmod | grep aiptek'.
[12:50] <tech0007> ozlem... mkdir /mount/urhdd
[12:51] <r-wolf> kernel_geek: returning to autorun in gnome: I've added "bash -c /etc/.myvars" to autostart list at Sessions, but it doesn't seem to work; env vars don't appear
[12:51] <Kenny3> soundray: i did
[12:51] <ozlem> tech done
[12:51] <kernel_geek> no
[12:51] <kernel_geek> Just put your var in
[12:51] <soundray> Kenny3: any output?
[12:51] <kernel_geek> so like
[12:51] <kernel_geek> MYVAR="i_like_cheese"
[12:52] <Kenny3> soundray: yes, do u need to know it?
[12:52] <kernel_geek> and it will execute that
[12:52] <r-wolf> kernel_geek: ok
[12:52] <kernel_geek> or
[12:52] <kernel_geek> export MYVAR="r-wolf smells"
[12:52] <astro76> r-wolf, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables
[12:52] <tech0007> ozlem mount /dev/sda1 /mount/urhdd
[12:52] <soundray> Kenny3: no, if there was output, it's loaded (unless there was an error)
[12:53] <Kenny3> soundray: so it should work now?
[12:53] <soundray> Kenny3: yes, the driver at least. See if you can use it in gimp.
[12:53] <Evanlec> is there a command to put my monitor in power-save mode (aka off) via a command?
[12:53] <soundray> Kenny3: actually, hold on...
[12:53] <kernel_geek> or export SMELLY_PEOPLE="r-wolf"
[12:53] <ozlem> tech sda1 is my main harddisk +_+
[12:53] <kernel_geek> echo SMELLY_PEOPLE
[12:53] <kernel_geek> r-wolf
[12:54] <kernel_geek> sprry
[12:54] <kernel_geek> geek jkoes
[12:54] <ferronica> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[12:54] <kernel_geek> lolllll
[12:54] <r-wolf> astro76: thanks
[12:54] <Kenny3> soundray: not workin
[12:54] <tech0007> ozlem oh ok hehe
[12:54] <soundray> Kenny3: have you found https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AiptekTablet ?
[12:54] <kernel_geek> mine will work as well by the way
[12:54] <kernel_geek> r-wolf
[12:54] <ozlem> I just tried sdb1 but I'm not sure if it worked since it's empty +_+ how do I check if it worked
[12:54] <PakYaw2> Sarah__: /quit
[12:55] <r-wolf> kernel_geek: I'll try both )
[12:55] <tech0007> ozlem try df -h /mount/urhdd
[12:55] <tech0007> ozlem if it matches the size of ur hdd it worked
[12:55] <ozlem> w00h00
[12:55] <ozlem> tyvm tech
[12:56] <tech0007> ozlem....wooohooo
[12:56] <ozlem> btw how do I let this automount like it was before ^_^
[12:56] <DEVI_GE> hi all
[12:56] <ozlem> I mean with that icon on the desktop etc
[12:56] <Evanlec> is there a command to put my monitor in power-save mode (aka off) immediately?
[12:56] <tech0007> ozlem add an entry in /etc/fstab
[12:57] <DEVI_GE> I want to talk with people who are responsible to www.ubuntu-xx.org domains
[12:57] <nimbo> Evanlec: xset dpms force standby
[12:57] <GBenemy> soundray: ok it worked(ish)...it added ANOTHER list of everything, (doubles again) and it made Ubuntu memtest the default, so i have to change default to 6. However, now i'm looking through the menu,lst but there are no doubles it's the same as before
[12:57] <ozlem> tech.. looks like I already got a line >> /dev/sdb1   /media/sdb1   ntfs-3g  defaults,locale=en_US.utf8    0    0
[12:57] <ozlem> I probably have to make that ext3 +_+
[12:57] <Evanlec> nimbo, thank you
[12:57] <tech0007> ozlem ur ryt!
[12:57] <nimbo> DEVI_GE: that domain isn't available
[12:57] <taico> hi all
[12:58] <ozlem> but... if it was already ntfs why didn't it mount before ? +_+
[12:58] <sayers> is there a way to make the font in the tty's smaller.
[12:58] <Kenny3> soundray: whats xorg.conf ?
[12:58] <tech0007> ozlem...coz u said u formatted it in ext3
[12:58] <ozlem> yes but I formatted it ext3 because it didn't work :p
[12:58] <soundray> GBenemy: I would try a 'sudo grub-install /dev/sda' now. If it still does it after that, the weirdness is beyond me.
[12:59] <soundray> Kenny3: it's a file, situated in /etc/X11/, which configures X (the graphics server that gnome is based on)
[12:59] <taico> can i get help for java-plugins firefox with gytsy64 please?
[12:59] <astro76> DEVI_GE, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams
[12:59] <ferronica> does ubuntu 7.04 able to show ink level for HP printers or epson ?
[01:00] <soundray> Kenny3: if you post yours to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org , I'll help you make the required changes.
[01:00] <ozlem> tech anyway lets's forget that.. There is one more (probably simpler) problem.. it doesn't show on desktop when plugged..
[01:00] <astro76> ferronica, for HP you can with the included HP Toolbox
[01:00] <cskamper> hej
[01:00] <astro76> ferronica, pretty sure you can for epson too
[01:00] <cskamper> i'm, form poland
[01:00] <cskamper> :D
[01:00] <ferronica> astro76: how ?
[01:01] <astro76> ferronica, which one?
[01:01] <soundray> cskamper: do you have a ubuntu support question?
[01:01] <ferronica> astro76: where is Hp toolbox ?
[01:01] <cskamper> i don't understand
[01:01] <GBenemy> soundray: it gave me this "(hd0)   /dev/sda    (hd1)   /dev/sdb"
[01:01] <soundray> cskamper: this isn't a channel for general chat. Please read the topic.
[01:01] <ferronica> astro76: to check ink level as we see in windows :)
[01:01] <tech0007> ozlem....hmmm that aint simple to me hehe
[01:01] <Kenny3> soundray: hmm, let me check how i copy from vbox into windows...
[01:01] <ozlem> whoops :P
[01:02] <ozlem> ok nvm I'm very happy with this ty so much
[01:02] <soundray> Kenny3: why not run firefox in the guest?
[01:02] <skenmy> Hi all - just installed 7.10 and i'm having issues getting my RAID drive to show up - it's displaying content that was erased months ago o_O Any ideas on where to find some instructions on mounting a SATA RAID 0 device?
[01:02] <astro76> ferronica, if you right click on the ubuntu logo, Edit Menus, you can add HPLIP Toolbox to the Preferences section, or just run hp-toolbox from a terminal
[01:02] <soundray> GBenemy: did it return to a $ prompt?
[01:02] <Bosambo> Greetings all, does anyone know how I can mount my wondows drive automatically?
[01:02] <tech0007> ozlem...welcome...dont worry, others might help u out
[01:02] <astro76> ferronica, you have to install the python-qt3 package, it's not included in feisty and it should be
[01:02] <Bosambo> Windows*
[01:02] <astro76> ferronica, *by default
[01:03] <soundray> !ntfs > Bosambo, please read ubotu's private message
[01:03] <astro76> ferronica, so just sudo apt-get install python-qt3
[01:03] <ozlem> oh it's not really important this was the most important.. I mean I'm workin on this since a couple of weeks +_+ tyvm again
[01:03] <ozlem> take care ^_^
[01:03] <Bosambo> Cheers
[01:03] <r-wolf> oh noes, I've edited /etc/environment and my gnome doesn't run anymore (
[01:03] <GBenemy> soundray: yes
[01:04] <r-wolf> "/etc/gdm/Xsession: line 73: ls: command not found"
[01:04] <ferronica> astro76:  python-qt3 for what purpose ?
[01:04] <soundray> GBenemy: okay, time to reboot and check...
[01:04] <astro76> ferronica, it's a library required to run hplip toolbox
[01:04] <Kenny3> soundray: what syntax should i use?
[01:04] <GBenemy> soundray: ok
[01:05] <soundray> Kenny3: plain (-----_
[01:05] <ozlem> oh btw 1 more question to everyone... Does anyone know a linux program that will return deleted files on an ext3 filesystem, everything I found was for linux
[01:05] <ferronica> astro76:  i just added hp toolbox
[01:05] <soundray> ozlem: no. Deletions in ext3 are permanent.
[01:05] <ozlem> are you serious +_+
[01:05] <oz0n> what is ubuntu alternate ?
[01:05] <soundray> ozlem: serious as cancer.
[01:05] <oz0n> is a desktop version ?
[01:05] <oz0n> or?
[01:05] <Tomcat_> oz0n: Text installation.
[01:05] <soundray> !alternate | oz0n
[01:05] <ubotu> oz0n: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[01:06] <oz0n> tomato
[01:06] <tech0007> ozlem...midnight commander has undelete in ext2...not sure for ext3
[01:06] <oz0n> thx
[01:06] <Kenny3> soundray: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39840
[01:06] <mcphail> ozlem: you may be able to recover with photorec
[01:06] <ozlem> midnight commander.. tyvm I'll try that
[01:06] <oz0n> means nographical interface?
[01:06] <soundray> ozlem: you can try forensic tools, but don't get your hopes up.
[01:06] <tech0007> soundray...ur right about that
[01:06] <Flannel> oz0n: non-graphical install.  It still installs the graphical system by default (although you can choose to only install text version as well)
[01:07] <Kenny3> soundray: i just put it at the end?
[01:07] <ozlem> tyvm all take care (btw tech I just reconnected the harddisk and now it does show the icon on the desktop)
[01:07] <soundray> Kenny3: no, be patient, I'll tell you...
[01:07] <Jos> oin #anarchy-online
[01:07] <ferronica> astro76:  i0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:08] <ferronica> astro76:  i think already installed :)
[01:08] <astro76> ferronica, most likely
[01:08] <ferronica> astro76:  and for epson printer
[01:08] <GBenemy> soundray: it worked except Windows still isn't the default
[01:08] <GBenemy> but that's not really an ubuntu support question so i thank you for your time
[01:08] <ferronica> astro76:  i have epson photo stylus 915 printer
[01:08] <gogeta> what windoes boot defult?
[01:09] <GBenemy> yeah
[01:09] <gogeta> you just need to do a easy edit
[01:09] <GBenemy> i have
[01:09] <GBenemy> it's not working
[01:09] <GBenemy> i've tried Default 4
[01:09] <GBenemy> and default saved
[01:09] <OldPink> Hi
[01:09] <GBenemy> and under windows put savedefault
[01:09] <gogeta> its goes from 0
[01:09] <GBenemy> neither work so whatever
[01:09] <gogeta> so its will be 3
[01:09] <GBenemy> ah
[01:10] <OldPink> Been using nothing but Ubuntu for over a year now, usually upgrade to the next release at RC time, thinking of upgrading to Gutsy now, have some free time, what do you think, is it ready, am I ready for it? :)
[01:10] <astro76> ferronica, search in synaptic turns up mtink and escputil
[01:10] <Flannel> OldPink: #ubuntu+1 will be the place to ask
[01:11] <gogeta> i had to add windows xp to grub manuly in gibben other then that
[01:11] <gogeta> shes runing just fine
[01:11] <GBenemy> ok, i'll test that later...gogeta/soundray: thank you for your time
[01:11] <OldPink> Flannel, I know, heading there too, want the average user's opinion aswell
[01:11] <ferronica> astro76: mtink ot escputil ?
[01:11] <soundray> GBenemy: hold on...
[01:11] <GBenemy> ...?
[01:11] <Flannel> OldPink: Gutsy uses are in #ubuntu+1, this isn't the gutsy support channel
[01:11] <gogeta> and normaly the betas get updated to stable 1 or 2 weeks early
[01:11] <tech0007> oldpink..is gutsy for release now
[01:11] <astro76> ferronica, I've never used Epson
[01:11] <soundray> GBenemy: have you adapted the default line at the top?
[01:11] <bitbourger> hello, can someone help, i'm looking for a label print program for ubuntu, ????
[01:11] <gogeta> so reduce server strees later
[01:11] <OldPink> Flannel, I know. I said so. Calm.
[01:12] <GBenemy> soundray: yes, it's not at 3, as gogeta suggested
[01:12] <gogeta> not 3?
[01:12] <GBenemy> *now
[01:12] <soundray> GBenemy: good luck
[01:12] <GBenemy> sorry
[01:12] <OldPink> tech0007: What do you mean by that? Rephrase?
[01:12] <ferronica> astro76: maintenance utility for Epson Stylus printers
[01:12] <ferronica> astro76: found this one
[01:12] <GBenemy> thanks :D
[01:12] <gogeta> well just count your entrys from 0
[01:12] <X3N> hey there im having trouble with my USB flash drive, i cant put anything on it because it says its a read only disk??
[01:12] <GBenemy> gogeta i know, it's at 3
[01:12] <soundray> Kenny3: see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39843/ for the required changes
[01:13] <gogeta> oh you said not
[01:13] <GBenemy> yes and then i said *now
[01:13] <gogeta> lol
[01:13] <ferronica> astro76: mtinki = Status monitor and configuration tool for Epson inkjet printers
[01:13] <soundray> Kenny3: save this to your desktop, then back up the original xorg.conf with 'sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-backup-20071007'
[01:13] <soundray> Kenny3: when you
[01:14] <astro76> ferronica, I know I read them, they both appear to allow ink level and configuration
[01:14] <X3N> hey there im having trouble with my USB flash drive, i cant put anything on it because it says its a read only disk??
[01:14] <X3N> how do i fix this?
[01:14] <X3N> its NTFS
[01:14] <ferronica> astro76: they will work for all models ?
[01:14] <soundray> Kenny3: when you've done that, copy the modified version to its proper place with 'sudo cp ~/Desktop/xorg.conf /etc/X11'
[01:14] <astro76> ferronica, I have no idea
[01:14] <preaction> !ntfs-3g | X3N
[01:14] <ubotu> X3N: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[01:14] <ferronica> astro76: and for HP tool
[01:14] <gogeta> ntfs on a fsty insall by defult is read only
[01:15] <astro76> ferronica, HP is well supported
[01:15] <ferronica> astro76: for all models?
[01:15] <soundray> Kenny3: then restart X to see if it has worked. You should be able to operate X with either mouse or tablet after that.
[01:15] <astro76> ferronica, most, check http://openprinting.org 's database
[01:15] <klotho> hello...  can I run ubuntu within windows for free by downloading the free vmware player and an ubuntu appliance?
[01:15] <X3N> cool ty
[01:16] <thedonvaughn> /lastlog xshadow
[01:16] <preaction> klotho, sure. you could even use wubi to install ubuntu as a file inside of windows
[01:16] <bitbourger> hello, i'm looking for a label print program for ubuntu, please help, because google doesn't
[01:16] <preaction> !wubi | klotho
[01:16] <ubotu> klotho: wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html
[01:16] <_Jaak_> how can i find out wich /dev/* is my dialup mobile phone?
[01:16] <soundray> klotho: don't know about player, but if you go for vmware server, that's definitely a free-beer solution.
[01:17] <OldPink> klotho: It is possible, yes
[01:17] <klotho> hmm
[01:17] <Kenny3> soundray: changing name is disabled for that file
[01:17] <klotho> so with wubi I don't need vmware?
[01:17] <OldPink> klotho: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/virtualpc/default.mspx
[01:17] <astro76> !info glabels | bitbourger
[01:17] <preaction> klotho, nope. but you do need to reboot to get into ubuntu (it uses WinXP's bootloader)
[01:17] <ubotu> bitbourger: glabels: label, business card and media cover creation program for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.3-1build1 (feisty), package size 328 kB, installed size 1012 kB
[01:18] <soundray> Kenny3: I never said anything about changing name.
[01:18] <klotho> oh. I already have ubuntu installed in another partition... I want to be able to run them both at once
[01:18] <bitbourger> ubotu: thx
[01:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:18] <Kenny3> soundray: oh, i misunderstood....
[01:19] <preaction> klotho, then you want VMWare, or VirtualBox (which is legally unencombered from what I hear)
[01:19] <klotho> I don't understand wubi... you can reboot and run windows or ubuntu normally...
[01:19] <X3N> grrrrr ntfs-cfg still not working :S
[01:19] <X3N> help! i really need to use this flash drive :S
[01:19] <preaction> X3N, you've installed ntfs3g?
[01:19] <X3N> it says the flash drive is root only
[01:19] <X3N> yup i installed it
[01:20] <X3N> i done gksudo nautilus, then tried drag and drop the file to flash drive
[01:20] <X3N> then it says "read only "
[01:20] <klotho> okay, so if I want to use vmware, anyone know what I need to download? does it require a special image, or can it run the installation I already have on my other partition?
[01:20] <X3N> but i used ntfs to select flash to be able to read and write
[01:20] <soundray> X3N: check if it has a switch that disallows writing
[01:20] <klotho> or virtualbox
[01:20] <X3N> a switch?
[01:21] <soundray> X3N: yes, a tiny lever on the side of the device, like the things that you use to turn the light on.
[01:21] <X3N> i cant find any switch, is that under the propertys tab?
[01:21] <astro76> X3N, ntfs is kind of pointless for a flash drive, you might use fat32
[01:21] <soundray> X3N: no, it's hardware
[01:21] <X3N> no switch on the flash drive
[01:21] <X3N> i use it everyday at course, but i cant write to it with ubuntu yet :S
[01:22] <preaction> X3N, are you sure it's mounted rw? do "cat /etc/mtab" and paste the contents to a pastebin
[01:22] <tech0007> klotho....www.vmware.com/download/server...
[01:22] <preaction> !paste | X3N
[01:22] <ubotu> X3N: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:22] <X3N> ok
[01:22] <toxguy24> HI.  Im about to finish my upgrade to 7.10 download, im I gonna lose my files and documents  after my notebook restarts?
[01:22] <klotho> tech0007: okay, so I download that server... then how do I run ubuntu?
[01:23] <X3N> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39845/
[01:23] <preaction> toxguy24, for an upgrade to 7.10? no
[01:23] <X3N> ^^
[01:23] <toxguy24> i see. thanks
[01:23] <Kenny3> soundray: how do i restart x ?
[01:24] <gogeta> toxy no
[01:24] <soundray> Kenny3: Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[01:24] <Kenny3> soundray: i did and got an error...
[01:24] <preaction> X3N, two problems: your usb drive seems to be mounted using ntfs (not ntfs-3g) and it seems to be mounted "nosuid" meaning it's probably root-only
[01:24] <tech0007> klotho...create new vm, make sure u give ur ubuntu vm the right ram and hdd requirments
[01:24] <soundray> Kenny3: what error?
[01:24] <X3N> :S
[01:24] <Kenny3> soundray: "failed to start the x server..."
[01:25] <X3N> but i tried gksudo and tried using it with root and still didnt let me :S
[01:25] <preaction> X3N, i can fix the first one easy: umount /dev/sdb1; mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/dsb1
[01:25] <X3N> ah k cool
[01:25] <X3N> just like that in terminal?
[01:25] <soundray> Kenny3: okay, switch to a console with Ctrl-Alt-F2 and log in there.
[01:25] <preaction> X3N, that's the first problem (the mounted w/ ntfs, not ntfs-3g). the second problem you can do whenever.
[01:25] <preaction> X3N, yes, try it and let me know what it says
[01:25] <toxguy24> one more question: what I.M software can you recommend for me to have a Webcam and Voice chat with my sisters who are using yahoo messenger and skype?
[01:25] <Kenny3> soundray: so i shouldnt press yes or no?
[01:26] <klotho> tech0007: but I have to download an "appliance" for ubuntu, no?
[01:26] <soundray> Kenny3: go for 'no'
[01:26] <cwkaya> hello
[01:26] <Kenny3> soundray: logged in
[01:26] <cjae> does anyone know how to get rid if the end part of your ip address so it is only the octal values or whatever eg 43.268.13.115 not 43.268.13.115.ca.hsd1.comcast.com
[01:26] <OldPink> !gutsy > OldPink
[01:26] <tech0007> klotho...if u jst need to run ubuntu w/in windows...u dont need an appliance
[01:27] <preaction> cjae, that last thing you have there is not your IP address, it's your hostmask
[01:27] <preaction> cjae, er.. hostname
[01:27] <adlisyakir> hye.. i have done install office 2003 using wine.. but it can't run.. so how to uninstall back office2003
[01:27] <X3N> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39846/
[01:27] <soundray> Kenny3: do a 'tail -n 20 /var/log/Xorg.0.log' and tell me if you see anything you find intelligible
[01:27] <cwkaya> who can help me with configuring my mouse ?
[01:27] <soundray> Kenny3: as in reasons why X didn't start
[01:27] <cjae> preaction, is this is permanent thing?
[01:28] <soundray> !mouse > cwkaya, please read ubotu's private message
[01:28] <tech0007> adlisyakir...which wine version are u using?
[01:28] <preaction> cjae, only as permanent as your IP address usually
[01:28] <cwkaya> thx
[01:28] <Pitel> Hi, can someone help me with tvout from intel 945 with xrandr on gutsy beta?
[01:28] <adlisyakir> 0.9.46
[01:28] <preaction> X3N, sorry, there was a typo, the last /dev/dsb1 should be /dev/sdb1
[01:29] <adlisyakir> tech0007: wine version 0.9.46
[01:29] <preaction> X3N, do you have your USB drive plugged in? it has to be before you try to do this
[01:29] <cjae> preaction, so no way to get rid it your hostname broadcasting
[01:29] <X3N> yup lol
[01:29] <X3N> :P
[01:29] <Kenny3> soundray: parse error on line 162 of xorg.conf
[01:29] <soundray> Kenny3: ah, that helps
[01:29] <tech0007> adlisyakir...try to run the setup, it should bring up a window to give u options like repair, remove or modify
[01:29] <cjae> preaction, besides proxy
[01:29] <preaction> cjae, what do you mean "broadcasting". you need an IP address to be on the internet. where is it being broadcast?
[01:29] <X3N> got the same mesage as last time :S
[01:29] <adlisyakir> tech0007: wine version 0.9.46 cannt support office2003 ?
[01:30] <Kenny3> soundray: of section DRI it also says there
[01:30] <toxguy24> what I.M software can you recommend for me to have a Webcam and Voice chat with my sisters who are using yahoo messenger and skype?
[01:30] <CarstenF> Gents may i ask a question ?
[01:30] <preaction> X3N, can you pastebin your /etc/ftab and the response for "lsusb" for me?
[01:30] <tech0007> adlisyakir...not really sure...i use wine only to play windoze games :)
[01:30] <X3N> ok
[01:30] <WeeJeWel> are there Ati Radeon 1950 drivers around?
[01:30] <preaction> X3N, sorry, it's /etc/fstab (i'm too tired to type coherently...)
[01:30] <soundray> Kenny3: did you change the file in any way from the one you downloaded?
[01:31] <cjae> preaction, I mean just having the numerical values not the hostname
[01:31] <adlisyakir> :)
[01:31] <cjae> preaction, or is hostname part of an ip
[01:31] <X3N> -bash: cd: /etc/fstab: Not a directory
[01:31] <soundray> !ask | CarstenF
[01:31] <ubotu> CarstenF: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:31] <preaction> cjae, ask your ISP to stop masking you? but I assume they don't really care
[01:31] <CarstenF> Gents i have a Dualboot PC (XP/CentOS) , and would like to replace the CentOS with Ubuntu 7.04. I  worry  a bit about loosing the XP (I need it for PCB development). I have made a 7.04 desktop ISO cd , and am ready to "install"
[01:32] <Kenny3> soundray: i clicked to sva e ur pasting as txt and changed the name to xorg.conf in the saving dialog thats all
[01:32] <Kenny3> *soundray: *save
[01:32] <ferronica> astro76: ok i have installed escputil, how to run this application?
[01:32] <wood1> how can i install an OSX docker into ubuntu?
[01:32] <X3N> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39848/
[01:32] <wood1> !docker
[01:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about docker - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:33] <soundray> Kenny3: strange, it seems to have been cut off somehow. Do a 'tail /etc/X11/xorg.conf' pls and tell me what the last line is
[01:33] <cjae> preaction, my isp can't even tell me max attachment limit for email in MB
[01:33] <X3N> ill paste bin the fstab
[01:33] <X3N> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39849/
[01:34] <Kenny3> soundray: its "Mode 0666"
[01:34] <CarstenF> I have grub installed (Centos has) , and just want to make sure that Ubuntu grub can find XP afterwards, and that the desktop install doesn't "Autoformat" all mu partitions. Just like "REdhad" did on a workstation install
[01:34] <wood1> how can i install an OSX docker replica into Ubuntu?
[01:35] <soundray> Kenny3: okay, let's fix that: echo EndSection | sudo tee -a /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:35] <arnducky> cjae, the Fully Qualified Domain Name (FQDN) especially the DNS suffix assigned to your host by your ISP cannot be changed by you if it's automatically assigned which is true in your case.
[01:36] <cwkaya> still don't know how to do it :d configuring my mouse :)
[01:36] <preaction> X3N, okay, there's no entry for your USB key. which means when you run the "mount" command, you need to specify everything, "mount -t ntfs3g /dev/sdb1 /data/MY\040DATA" <- or whatever directory you want
[01:36] <jeroen_> hehe all working :D
[01:36] <cjae> CarstenF, I you know a bit about filesystems and partitions you should be ok the most important thing to remember not to rush through the install and manually setup partitioning  your hard disc
[01:36] <cjae> if
[01:37] <Madnez> hi all
[01:37] <Kenny3> soundray: done
[01:37] <Madnez> i have an interesting problem on hand
[01:37] <Madnez> seems that after buying a new 320 GB seagate, i cant install xp
[01:37] <Madnez> i had installed ubuntu first then xp
[01:37] <Terrasque> Madnez: thats a feature! :p
[01:37] <X3N>  mount -t ntfs3g /dev/sdb1/data/MY\DATA   <- is that the correct synatx?
[01:38] <soundray> Kenny3: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[01:38] <Madnez> but then xp gives me the damn blue screen of death 7e error
[01:38] <cjae> CarstenF, ubuntu has considerably better installer
[01:38] <a-stray-cat> hello, can anyone help me in disabling the alt+right click binding? I'd rather it not bring up a menu if I alt+right click
[01:38] <Madnez> lolz.... i know xp is screwed up
[01:38] <sim__> HI
[01:38] <preaction> X3N, no, there should be a space between /dev/sdb1 and /data/MY\040DATA
[01:38] <sim__> 
[01:38] <Terrasque> Madnez: can you install xp when ubuntu is not on the disk?
[01:38] <Madnez> still i'd like to know what could the problem be.... is it due to the new sata disc meaning i need raid?
[01:38] <CarstenF> cjae thanx , i take that as : I get the chance to select the partitions , before install. And that 7.04 desktop indt. doesn't "Autoformat" everything
[01:38] <Madnez> i formatted the whole drive!
[01:39] <Kenny3> soundray: "failed to start x server..." again
[01:39] <preaction> Madnez, winxp's SATA support is iffy at best
[01:39] <Madnez> and reinstalled xp to die at the same place
[01:39] <Madnez> yeah i guessed as much
[01:39] <Madnez> seems my 80 gig drive is ok with sata
[01:39] <Madnez> 320 gig doesnt work well on xp
[01:39] <soundray> Kenny3: okay. 'No', Ctrl-Alt-F2, 'tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log'
[01:39] <Terrasque> Madnez: tried null'ing the whole drive? dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/disk
[01:39] <Madnez> for xp?
[01:40] <Terrasque> yes
[01:40] <cjae> CarstenF, make sure you defrag xp or win first,using a live cd of gparted or something to make your partitions first as this is the discs only job and does it well
[01:40] <Madnez> ... nope
[01:40] <Terrasque> ive had a similar problem once, had to do that
[01:40] <Madnez> do i need to null?
[01:40] <Madnez> the error occurs when it tries to load XP but dies on the loading screen
[01:40] <Terrasque> probably some screwy partition or boot sector or .. something that threw xp off
[01:40] <arnducky> Madnez, it will wipe Vista (done it) but *should* be okay with XP and 2K.  Back up your data first (always).
[01:40] <cjae> arnducky, thanks
[01:41] <klotho> so if I install vmware, how do I get it to run ubuntu?
[01:41] <Madnez> .... i just setted up ubuntu and now i gotta null the drive
[01:41] <soundray> Kenny3: still a parse error?
[01:41] <uguestu> !fonts
[01:41] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[01:41] <Madnez> null shouldnt affect the drive data right?
[01:41] <Terrasque> Madnez: it will remove everything thats on it
[01:41] <Madnez> sob sob...
[01:41] <Terrasque> thats kinda the point :p
[01:41] <Madnez> just great......
[01:41] <Kenny3> soundray: parse error line 163 again --> "EndSectionEndSection" is not a valid keyword in this section
[01:41] <Madnez> doesnt the format work?
[01:42] <arnducky> Mafnez adding Windows *after* Linux is doable but *nasty*
[01:42] <Madnez> ahhhh
[01:42] <Madnez> i love ubuntu setup
[01:42] <brobostigon> xp first, the linux
[01:42] <Madnez> smooth as silk
[01:42] <cjae> that is not my isp though arnducky but i forgot about FQDN is this true if I ask them to
[01:42] <Madnez> xp is a bitch... but required for the good stuff
[01:42] <cjae> remove it
[01:42] <Madnez> sigh.... lazy micro, damn xp....
[01:42] <jeroen_> well gonna remove TOTEM
[01:43] <cjae> Madnez, xp is not bad vista is gayer than aids
[01:43] <CarstenF> cjae , i have 3 x 120 GB disks - XP on hda (disk 0 physical) , and want to have ubuntu on hdb + hdc , so basically if i can "convince" ubuntu to just replace the Centos installed grub i guess i'd be home free
[01:43] <jeroen_> installed kaffeine....I like that better
[01:43] <Madnez> yes, tried vista
[01:43] <Madnez> ubuntu can be mod to be like vista easily
[01:43] <Madnez> and it is  more resource friendly
[01:43] <jeroen_> why would you wanna go with vista.
[01:43] <florian> hej, are there going to be the new upstart boot scripts in Gutsy Gibbon?
[01:43] <soundray> Kenny3: okay, let's restore your backup: 'sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf-20071007 /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[01:43] <jeroen_> vista is a system resource eating a'hole
[01:43] <Madnez> i'm not a vista lover... hated it after trying it for a while
[01:44] <arnducky> Madnez,  unless you just  happen to have a spare blank partition in the right place and know how to install GRUB (or another bootmanager)'manually' afterwards
[01:44] <Madnez> just wanted to play halo 2 and needed vista.  wasted a ton of time
[01:44] <Madnez> arnducky, nah.  Anyway will null drive after i save all my nice anime onto some dics
[01:45] <Terrasque> i just wish all my games worked in linux
[01:45] <defcons> what is the name of the mysql server package in ubuntu?
[01:45] <soundray> Kenny3: actually, I have another idea of what might have gone wrong...
[01:45] <Terrasque> Madnez: get yourself a file server :D I did that for my anime / misc. Best investment ive done
[01:45] <soundray> Kenny3: wanna have another go?
[01:45] <Madnez> how you setup the file server?
[01:45] <bmt2> hello too all
[01:45] <cjae> CarstenF, you do not need 120 gigs for / just so you know I have over 2500 binaries in /usr/bin and use like 3gigs total on root. home is other hdd
[01:46] <Terrasque> Madnez: i went the lazy way and did it via webmin
[01:46] <bmt2> is there a way to make the toolbar that has my 'applications', 'places', and 'system' transparent
[01:46] <cjae> CarstenF, i assume you wouldn't make / 120 gigs
[01:46] <bmt2> at least the toolbar ?
[01:46] <Kenny3> soundray: "no such file or directory" it says for the backupfile
[01:46] <Madnez> lol
[01:46] <adlisyakir> hye.. how to add file at application module... and hoow to search the program that are install in my ubuntu..
[01:46] <Madnez> i'd rather have them on dics then
[01:46] <Madnez> easier and faster
[01:47] <arnducky> Madnez, one thing to keep in mind with all NTFS, ReiserFS and even Ext3 can never be 'moved' on a drive, only resized
[01:47] <ferronica> astro76: escputil, how to run this application?
[01:47] <attunix> I installed emerald; how do I change the theme?
[01:47] <Terrasque> Madnez: software raid5 having 2.8TB. samba and ftp. Currently ftp from server goes to 36 mb/s, at that point my desktop's hdd starts limiting :p
[01:47] <Madnez> yup, i remember that
[01:47] <Madnez> just want damn xp on my com so i can play a few old games!
[01:47] <cjae> CarstenF, you could get rid of the grub boot loader by running fdisk/mbr from either windows xp recovery console or from win98 disc
[01:48] <Madnez> wine doesnt install well for some.... and its gnawing me ever since
[01:48] <ferronica> escputil, how to run this application?
[01:48] <brobostigon> use wine
[01:48] <Terrasque> Madnez: which is the reason I use xp now :/
[01:48] <haranp> are there any known problems with a radeon 200 card on gutsy?
[01:48] <soundray> Kenny3: change of plan: do a 'sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf'. Scroll down to the end of the file. Change EndSectionEndSection to EndSection and make sure the file ends with an empty line. Save with Ctrl-O Ctrl-X and 'sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start'
[01:48] <cjae> CarstenF, I guess it fixmbr on xp disc
[01:48] <cjae> its
[01:48] <Kenny3> soundray: i added the missing "backup" worked now
[01:48] <Madnez> yup
[01:48] <Kenny3> soundray: what now?
[01:48] <Madnez> i'm gonna cry... RESETUP ubuntu the 8th time?
[01:49] <arnducky> Madnez, try installing WIne or VMware (don't install the Ubuntu package though -- use the VMware website)
[01:49] <Madnez> i've done everything... timings, programs, sessions.....
[01:49] <Terrasque> Madnez: you could backup the partition, install xp, and move the partition in again kinda stuff
[01:49] <Madnez> use win and vm ubuntu?
[01:49] <soundray> Kenny3: so you've restored /etc/X11/xorg.conf from the backup now?
[01:49] <haranp> I upgraded from feisty to gutsy and my video card doesn't work. Any suggestions?
[01:49] <cjae> CarstenF, the reason would so that ubuntu has no grub on grub issues when writing to (hd0) from ubuntu installer
[01:49] <Madnez> thought null formats whole drive?
[01:49] <Terrasque> Madnez: of course, if you had a fileserver, you could just backup it on there.. :p :p :p
[01:49] <soundray> haranp: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[01:49] <kromcuich> i cannot access any ubuntu repositories, get 'connection refused' errors. please help
[01:50] <Madnez> hahhaa.... IF i had one :)
[01:50] <Kenny3> soundray: ye, i think so
[01:50] <haranp> willdo, thanks
[01:50] <soundray> Kenny3: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start
[01:50] <arnducky> Madnez VMware emulates different virtual machines including XP and Winblows 2K
[01:50] <sebadoh> hello
[01:50] <Madnez> yeah but doesnt work well
[01:50] <cjae> CarstenF, win98 is quicker than xp recovery and use the sane things
[01:50] <cjae> same
[01:50] <Madnez> still need xp running first to install then wine can work
[01:50] <Madnez> tried it before ;)
[01:51] <CarstenF> cjae: Well i might make / 90G - /var 30G , and assign /home to the next 120G disk
[01:51] <adlisyakir> hye.. when i install office2000 in my ubuntu.. where it placed/?
[01:51] <Madnez> frozen throne dota worked pretty well
[01:51] <cjae> CarstenF, right
[01:51] <Manu18vlc> wtf!
[01:51] <Manu18vlc> cauanta gente hay aqui??
[01:51] <Manu18vlc> y nadie habla?
[01:51] <cjae> CarstenF, 90 gigs is tons of wasted space though
[01:51] <Madnez> only prob was when you pressed alt + right click so you can see the hp and hit them, pop out the task commands
[01:51] <defcons> Manu18vlc, ffs
[01:51] <jrib> !es | Manu18vlc
[01:51] <ubotu> Manu18vlc: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:52] <defcons> Manu18vlc, this is an English channel
[01:52] <soundray> Seveas: ping
[01:52] <Kenny3> soundray: it says "starting gnome display manager... [ok] " but im still in console
[01:52] <Manu18vlc> oh right
[01:52] <defcons> what do you mean oh right?
[01:52] <Manu18vlc> but i can speak english it doesent matter
[01:52] <Madnez> !null
[01:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about null - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:52] <Manu18vlc> of course
[01:52] <X3N> hmm i got this :S root@ZION:~# mount -t ntfs3g /dev/sdb1 /data/MY\DATA
[01:52] <Madnez> hmm
[01:52] <defcons> are you saying that you thought it wasn't?
[01:52] <cjae> CarstenF, unless your going to be doing a lot as root and are you going to be having lots of logs on this machine?
[01:53] <Manu18vlc> tes
[01:53] <Manu18vlc> yes
[01:53] <defcons> yeah, sure
[01:53] <X3N> mount: mount point /data/MYDATA does not exist
[01:53] <X3N> :
[01:53] <Manu18vlc> ;)
[01:53] <X3N> S
[01:53] <Manu18vlc> well cya i'm gonna have lunch
[01:53] <Madnez> btw anyone using amule?
[01:53] <soundray> Kenny3: okay, listen, I've got to go in a minute. The trouble with the xorg.conf you downloaded was a missing newline at the end of the file. You can add that and copy it to /etc/X11 again, then try again. To see your X again now, do a Alt-F7
[01:53] <X3N> im not sure how to use this command so well :S
[01:53] <cjae> CarstenF, server?
[01:54] <cjae> CarstenF, and does centos use grub?
[01:54] <jrib> X3N: you need to create the mount point
[01:54] <soundray> Kenny3: got it?
[01:54] <X3N> how do i create the mount point? i really really dont want to stuff this up because all my uni work is on this flash drive
[01:55] <CarstenF> cjae he..he  , but i have the 3 x 120's in the "box" , i could do a / 30G (including /var) - /usr 90G  -  /home 120G on next disk
[01:55] <soundray> Kenny3: I'll be back in the channel in an hour or so.
[01:55] <Kenny3> soundray: i pressed alt f but it says x server is deactivated, restart gdm
[01:55] <jrib> X3N: sudo mkdir /media/MYDATA
[01:55] <Kenny3> soundray: alt+f4
[01:55] <sebadoh> new to linux as of now enjoyin it
[01:55] <mihaX14> is automatix site down again?
[01:55] <Kenny3> soundray: alt+f7 i mean
[01:55] <X3N> but when i mount it there is /media/MYDATA
[01:56] <ipx> arturegon432
[01:56] <X3N> the problem is that i cant write to it, its NTFS, but i tried ntfs-cfg or something to write to it but dont let me :S
[01:56] <ipx> what do you think about that folks?
[01:56] <cjae> CarstenF, ya I guess but don't see much point in it
[01:56] <X3N> i can read from the flash drive i cant write to it though, even as root!
[01:56] <jeroen_> yes I did it
[01:56] <jeroen_> Ubuntu finally does everything I want it to do
[01:57] <jeroen_> well.....now I need the win32codecs
[01:57] <CarstenF> cjae: It's going to be a workstation , with AVR + AVR32 + ARM + MIPS + PPC X-compile toolchains on it , so basically a microprocessor development platform
[01:57] <Kenny3> soundray: i can only press the "ok" slection but i hit enter and nothing happens
[01:57] <cjae> CarstenF, sorry if I don't see it, best friends birthday tonight little bit off centre
[01:57] <X3N> oh man i really need to write to this flash drive, ive got to hand this assignment in tomorrow :S
[01:57] <cjae> CarstenF, ahh
[01:58] <cjae> CarstenF, ok I see now I should go to bed have fun
[01:58] <CarstenF> cjae: I usually install the toolchains in /usr , and have each cpu set up as a user
[01:58] <wood1> what is a good docker for Ubuntu?
[01:58] <jrib> X3N: according to your error message, you need to create the directory.  Unmount the drive before trying to mount it again
[01:58] <Kenny3> soundray: r u there?
[01:58] <CarstenF> cjae: thanx for advices
[01:59] <cjae> CarstenF, cool if it helped at all l8r
[01:59] <jrib> !w32codecs > jeroen_ (read the private message from ubotu)
[01:59] <X3N> root@ZION:~# mount -t ntfs3g /dev/sdb1 /media/MY\DATA
[01:59] <X3N> mount: mount point /media/MYDATA does not exist
[02:00] <spitball_> are you sure you want that backslash in there?
[02:01] <jrib> X3N: that's not the command to create a directory
[02:01] <X3N> im not sure, im realy really not good with bash commands
[02:01] <ratpoison> X3N: mkdir
[02:02] <jrib> X3N: why are using ntfs instead of fat on a flash drive anyway?
[02:02] <X3N> i dont know, i got given it like that
[02:02] <arbri> hello
[02:02] <jrib> X3N: fat would be less hassle
[02:02] <X3N> all my uni works on it though, so i dont want to stuff it up
[02:03] <fc__> how do i remove a link to a wine application that has moved? deleting the entry from the edit menu's option doesnt work! help please!
[02:03] <X3N> well how do i fat it? lol
[02:03] <d> 
[02:03] <d> 
[02:03] <ratpoison> X3N: have you tried gparted?
[02:03] <X3N> ill give it a go now
[02:03] <d> FUCK u
[02:03] <X3N> it wont wipe my course stuff will it?
[02:04] <spitball1> i would just leave it as ntfs for now anyway
[02:04] <arbri> i've got problems playing my mp3 files,anybody can help please!!!
[02:04] <ratpoison> X3N: formatting does tend to wipe stuff
[02:04] <fc__> arbri
[02:04] <ratpoison> arbri: have you installed ubuntu restricted extras?
[02:04] <fc__> you have to install the codec
[02:04] <fc__> thats the one
[02:04] <X3N> ahh true
[02:04] <arbri> i've installed all gstreamer plugins!
[02:05] <kromcuich> urgent! I cannot access any Ubuntu repositories -connect (111 Connection refused). Please help
[02:05] <spitball1> try "sudo mkdir /media/MYDATA/ && sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media/MYDATA"
[02:05] <jeroen_> people what does this mean: jeroen@jeroen-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install w32codecsReading package lists... Done
[02:05] <jeroen_> Building dependency tree
[02:05] <jeroen_> Reading state information... Done
[02:05] <jeroen_> Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:05] <jeroen_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:05] <X3N> ill just email my assignments from now on i guess :S
[02:05] <jeroen_> is only available from another source
[02:05] <jeroen_> E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate
[02:05] <fc__> abri - look for ubuntu restricted extra's, they work better
[02:05] <arbri> what is ubuntu restricted extras
[02:05] <arbri> ?
[02:05] <fc__> it is a program on your list
[02:05] <jrib> jeroen_: read the message from ubotu and do not paste here
[02:06] <Extravert> im having a problem where my program prints \r instead of returning to a new line
[02:06] <fc__> just search for it
[02:06] <arbri> thnx
[02:06] <fc__> anytime
[02:06] <linxeh> Exposure: new lines on unix are \n (though for network protocols it is normally \r\n)
[02:06] <ratpoison> arbri: applications add/remove and install the restricted extras package if you can't find it make sure you have enabled the "all available applications"
[02:06] <fc__> how do i remove a link to a wine application that has moved? deleting the entry from the edit menu's option doesnt seem to work
[02:06] <spitball1> X3N: did you try the command i typed earlier?
[02:07] <Extravert> weird its on default locale
[02:07] <ratpoison> arbri: ubuntu restricted extras is a metapackage containing pretty much every codec and plugin you need
[02:07] <IdleOne> kromcuich: what country code are you using in sources.list?
[02:07] <IndyGunFreak> arbri: you can also look at the medibuntu repo.
[02:07] <ratpoison> !patience > fc__
[02:07] <IndyGunFreak> !medibuntu
[02:07] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[02:07] <kromcuich> idleone: i have tried many countries and the 'find best server' function also
[02:07] <X3N> im just going to back up everything on the flash drive and reformat it as fat32, im really uncomfortable with using bash commands and the terminal
[02:08] <IdleOne>  kromcuich dont use any country code . use archive.ubuntu.com
[02:08] <ratpoison> X3N: contrary to what you might think, I am under the impression that most flash drives use fat16 (as to why is that, no idea)
[02:09] <fc__> sorry ratpoison, didnt know
[02:09] <whileimhere> hi has anyone tried the new version of Ubuntu and found a big improvment?
[02:09] <X3N> ah ok, fat16 it is then lol
[02:09] <Jaymac> whileimhere, see #ubuntu+1 :)
[02:09] <ratpoison> !gutsy
[02:09] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[02:09] <whileimhere> okay thanks jaymac
[02:10] <kromcuich> idleone: Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[02:10] <IdleOne> kromcuich: remember to do sudo apt-get update after editing sources.list
[02:10] <jeroen_> well I just can't install em
[02:10] <IdleOne> !paste | kromcuich paste sources.list so I can lse it please
[02:10] <ubotu> kromcuich paste sources.list so I can lse it please: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:11] <IdleOne> s/lse/see
[02:11] <kromcuich> idle one: same message on sudo apt-get update
[02:12] <Crush`> are there any tools (other than devilspie) that will let me put a terminal on the desktop?
[02:12] <brobostigon> tilda
[02:12] <kromcuich> idleone: sorry. here is sources.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39851/
[02:13] <jrib> jeroen_: did you enable medibuntu or seveas repos?
[02:13] <jeroen_> yeah
[02:13] <X3N> oh ffs, just formated flash drive to fat16 now the godam thing cant find it anymore!!!!!!!
[02:13] <jeroen_> I think it's allready working btw
[02:13] <X3N> ive got only 2 hours of sleep to go, and now i got to piss about with this!!@!!
[02:13] <IdleOne> kromcuich: ok gimme a second
[02:13] <jrib> jeroen_: are you on 64bit ubuntu?
[02:14] <jeroen_> nope 32 bit
[02:14] <jeroen_> It's a simple laptop...........no 64bit shit and all
[02:14] <jrib> jeroen_: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:14] <jrib> !paste | jeroen_
[02:14] <X3N> my bad, ive got it sorted
[02:14] <ubotu> jeroen_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:14] <jeroen_> I think I got it working now
[02:14] <ratpoison> X3N> places > computer > filesystem > dev > disk > by label
[02:15] <X3N> ................ i just lost half my fucking course material
[02:16] <IdleOne> kromcuich: are you getting that error from the ubuntu repos or from the noreply repo?
[02:16] <kromcuich> idelone: from all repos
[02:17] <IdleOne> kromcuich: I dont understand why.
[02:17] <kromcuich> idelone: me too :) and i gotta do a presentation in  one hour - and gotta download stuff before it
[02:18] <jeroen_> well.........I think it's working
[02:18] <kromcuich> on how good ubuntu is.....
[02:18] <jeroen_> now listening to a windows media stream
[02:18] <IdleOne> jrib: what would cause a error Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused) ??
[02:18] <zsz> I have no sound. Sound card is detected, the kernel module is loaded, sound channels are not muted, headphones are connected properly and work with ipod. alsa-tools, alsa-oss, alsa-utils and alsa-base are installed. How to enable sound?
[02:18] <IdleOne> kromcuich: give a minute we will get this fixed
[02:19] <kromcuich> idle one - thnx mate
[02:19] <jrib> kromcuich: what is on port 4001?
[02:20] <jeroen_> well dudes....looks like it works
[02:20] <jeroen_> staring to like Ubuntu now............I remember having second thought about it.
[02:20] <jeroen_> couldn't get wifi to work, couldn't get dvd playback to work
[02:20] <jeroen_> I hated it, to be honest
[02:21] <bluefusionx> Hi everyone!  I am having trouble getting my broadcom wifi chip working with linux.  See using ndiswrapper it detects and even outputs the scanning info like the networks.  Ubuntu shows that connecting thing and then quits and says disconnected.  It just won't connect
[02:21] <IdleOne> kromcuich: jrib can probably help more then I can now
[02:21] <swarm> bluefusionx, are you using WEP?
[02:21] <kromcuich> jrib: how do i see?
[02:22] <jrib> kromcuich: are you having it connect to localhost on purpose?
[02:22] <bluefusionx> swarm, no it's unsecured.
[02:23] <jeroen_> man I love this
[02:23] <jeroen_> I use Kaffiene as my mediaplayer and I love that
[02:23] <kromcuich> jrib: no, i never changed the settings i thought
[02:24] <jrib> kromcuich: what does this return: echo $http_proxy
[02:24] <ashu> !!!!when is gusty coming when is gusty coming!!!!
[02:25] <IdleOne> !gutsy
[02:25] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[02:25] <kromcuich> jrib: http://localhost:4001
[02:25] <bluefusionx> swarm, I'm on feisty just to let you know
[02:26] <jrib> kromcuich: ok, did you some proxy package?
[02:26] <IdleOne> ashu: wwww.ubuntu.com has a big banner on the top right of the page
[02:26] <ashu> i know, i am just excited...
[02:26] <IdleOne> ahhh
[02:27] <kromcuich> jrib: damn, only Tor, gizom, skype...nothing in particular otherwise
[02:27] <swarm> bluefusionx
[02:27] <swarm> i'm very tired right now after doing a 14 hour server move
[02:28] <neumind> how on ubuntu set password to folder?
[02:28] <neumind> how on ubuntu set password to folder?
[02:28] <swarm> but there is another app which does wifi stuff
[02:28] <swarm> wifi radar
[02:28] <swarm> or something like that
[02:28] <swarm> its good stuff.
[02:28] <bmm> Hi there. Currently 7.10 beta is at http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/7.10/, will the final release (11days later) be available at the same link?
[02:28] <bluefusionx> Can I install it with apt?
[02:28] <neumind> how on ubuntu set password to folder?
[02:28] <swarm> yes
[02:28] <swarm> apt-get install wifi-radar i think
[02:28] <Terrasque> neumind: encryption or permissions
[02:29] <IdleOne> bmm: it will be available at www.ubuntu.com
[02:29] <bluefusionx> Ok thanks.  I'll try that program.
[02:29] <Incompetnce> I want to print two pages on a single page from Firefox. How do I do that? I could do it in windows but the printer options aren't the same...
[02:29] <swarm> there is another one i prefer
[02:29] <swarm> called wicd
[02:29] <bmm> IdleOne: is it possible to know the link of the final release in advance?
[02:29] <neumind> Terrasque:  how it works?
[02:29] <jrib> kromcuich: looks like anon-proxy that is not set up.  You need to comment the proxy lines in /etc/environment and purge the anon-proxy package if you want.  In current terminals you need to unset http_proxy
[02:30] <IdleOne> bmm: if we knew that then the server would get hammered !
[02:30] <kromcuich> jrib: you are right! one second
[02:31] <Terrasque> neumind: ecryption you use something to encrypt the files. for example truecrypt, pgp or cryptfs. With permissions you change the rights on the folders so that only your user (and root) can access the content
[02:31] <amadeux> In Gnome, is there anyway to limit the size of the app buttons in the window list? I don't like that when I have three apps running, there are three huge buttons and when I have 20 apps running, I have 20 tiny buttons
[02:31] <bmm> IdleOne: ok, then I'll just guess a few and start hammering the server ;-)
[02:32] <kromcuich> jrib: how do i unset the http proxy/
[02:32] <ashu> hibernate feature does not work in my laptop
[02:32] <jrib> kromcuich: 'unset http_proxy'
[02:32] <neumind> Terrasque:  i change permisions, but it dont works.. no password required
[02:33] <kromcuich> jrib: perfect! thanks a lot
[02:33] <kromcuich> jrib: damn anon
[02:33] <jrib> kromcuich: no problem
[02:33] <IdleOne> kromcuich: told you that you would get it fixed. good job jrib ty
[02:33] <Terrasque> neumind: you have different accounts for different users, right?
[02:34] <neumind> i have 1 acc
[02:34] <neumind> me
[02:34] <amadeux> In Gnome, is there anyway to limit the size of the app buttons in the window list? I don't like that when I have three apps running, there are three huge buttons and when I have 20 apps running, I have 20 tiny buttons
[02:34] <Terrasque> neumind: with permissions everyone logged in with your user will have access to it
[02:34] <neumind> Terrasque:  so how set a pass?
[02:34] <Terrasque> neumind: use encryption then
[02:35] <neumind> Terrasque:  tell more about this
[02:35] <surface> hi
[02:35] <Terrasque> neumind: or, if you just want a quick hide, put a . infront of the foldername
[02:35] <surface> i run miro, and it crashed with error, /usr/bin/python2.5: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.00/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so: undefined symbol: PR_NewMonitor
[02:35] <Boing> hi, is there a way using vnc to play full screen media on the remote machine without having it exported over the network to the client?
[02:35] <Incompetnce> I want to print two pages on a single page from Firefox. How do I do that? I could do it in windows but the printer options aren't the same...
[02:35] <neumind> Terrasque:  tell me how witch encryption set a pass?
[02:35] <Incompetnce> can anyone help?
[02:36] <web_knows> hail
[02:36] <MartinW> I recently switched to Linux and I'm confused about the whole KDE versus GNOME debate. Where can I find an unbaised guide?
[02:37] <neopsyche> MartinW: google
[02:37] <zhanx> !media
[02:37] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[02:37] <jrib> MartinW: why not install both and compare?
[02:37] <mechdave> Incompetnce, try lpoptions -o page-set=odd and then when you have printed that page...
[02:37] <zhanx> !codecs
[02:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:37] <arnath> hi, a floppy drive, does it run on an FDD port? (i thought IDE, but it doesnt match the IDE cables)
[02:37] <MartinW> I have a 2gb cap.
[02:37] <Terrasque> neumind: take a look at http://www.debianadmin.com/filesystem-encryption-tools-for-linux.html
[02:37] <neopsyche> I tried to rip dvd to divx with dvdrip.. but it gave me an error.. then i tried dvd to xvid and it worked??? are divx encoders not in ubuntu by default?
[02:37] <MartinW> An google doesn't check for a baise.
[02:37] <MartinW> sorry bias
[02:38] <mechdave> type lpoptions -r page-set and then lpoptions page-set=even
[02:38] <jrib> MartinW: on bandwidth you mean?
[02:38] <neopsyche> no mw i was sying you could probably find and unbiased review from some site.. using google
[02:38] <IdleOne> MartinW: kde is a more polished IMO windows look and feel. gnome is a more simple easy to use enviroment . on ubuntu you can try both of them for KDE sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:38] <mechdave> Incompetnce, and reprint the page. when all is done remove the option with lpoptions -r page-set
[02:38] <MartinW> No total usage, upload and download. Plus my link maxes at 20kb/s
[02:38] <DjViper> anyone here using Microsoft Wireless Entertainment Desktop 8000 or similiar on ubuntu?
[02:39] <DjViper> it's a keyboard :P
[02:39] <neopsyche> martinw: You will have to decide for yourself whether something is biased or not.
[02:39] <rico> hey. can anyone suggest a VNC viewer for Linux?
[02:39] <arnath> anyone? floppy is on fdd or ide?
[02:39] <neopsyche> otherwise a person on here even who gave you a link to a site could themselves be biased ..
[02:39] <neopsyche> or the author of the article could be biased...
[02:39] <Incompetnce> mechdave, would that not be for printing back and front? i can do that. its to have two pages, shrunk on the same side...
[02:39] <rico> the default one (vncviewer, from realvnc) doesn't support password-protected vnc sessions.
[02:39] <neopsyche> but at the end of the day its up to you to discern
[02:40] <rico> floppy should be on /dev/fd* if i can remember arnath
[02:40] <neopsyche> martinW
[02:40] <mechdave> Incompetnce, Oh sorry mate, yeah.. bear with me
[02:40] <rico> but im not sure now
[02:40] <neopsyche> martinW: I never said google detected for bias..
[02:41] <neopsyche> martinW: I was merely stating that google is a good place to look
[02:41] <MartinW> I thought that there was an official guide somewhere.
[02:41] <giu> hello
[02:41] <giu> ciao
[02:41] <giu> italiani?
[02:41] <jrib> !it | giu
[02:41] <mechdave> Incompetnce, You have the cups server installed on the same machine right?
[02:41] <ubotu> giu: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:42] <ctothej> How can I make it so that noapic is a default option for all grub menu items?
[02:42] <mechdave> Incompetnce, try this url --> http://127.0.0.1:631/help/options.html?QUERY=n%20up#NUMBERUP
[02:42] <neopsyche> Its quite simple the way i see it.. gnome is lighter.. KDE is more graphics intesive. and the programs that kde runs are heavier.. in the graphics department.. sometimes.. however kde programs can mostly be run on gnome as far as i know with the isntallation of the aditionall packages
[02:42] <Incompetnce> mechdave, err. im a little new to all this. i only have the one computer...
[02:42] <rico> ctothej, tried editing your menu.lst?
[02:42] <neopsyche> !KDE
[02:42] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.
[02:42] <neopsyche> !gnome
[02:42] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[02:43] <mechdave> Incompetnce, no worries, try the url I just pasted
[02:43] <rico> !vnc
[02:43] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[02:43] <rico> !FreeNX
[02:43] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[02:43] <Incompetnce> mechdave, ok that seems to be what im looking for thanks. now ill have to figure out how to print from command line...
[02:43] <DjViper> rico: www.nomachine.com
[02:43] <MartinW> OK I'll take a look at the links thanks.
[02:44] <CarstenF> Help : Using 7.04 desktop install i am stuck on selecting timezone , the bottom buttons are displayed below the visible screen
[02:44] <IndyGunFreak> CarstenF: can you adjust your screen res?
[02:44] <Incompetnce> i dont suppose there'd be a way to incorporate these options into the dialog box that appears when i click print?
[02:44] <rico> DjViper, I have a windows box running TightVNC. will this work with it?
[02:45] <mechdave> Incompetnce, all you need to do is open a terminal up and replace lpr with lpoptions
[02:45] <CarstenF> Indy: I can only select 640x480 & 800x600 , i am at 800x600
[02:46] <mechdave> Incompetnce, eg:lp -o number-up=2 filename will become lpoptions -o number-up=2 filename
[02:46] <IndyGunFreak> CarstenF: ok, try this... click an open area of the panel on the top(where ti says applications/places/system, etc.) and drag it to the right side of your screen.  this should give youa little bit of room to move the window up a little bit.,
[02:46] <DjViper> rico: yes
[02:46] <mechdave> Incompetnce, then print your page through firefox as normal
[02:46] <Incompetnce> ah i see. ok. thanks.
[02:47] <Kronos> right guyz i need some help here, i've spent the last day looking throught endless posts in forums, without any luck i really need some help here as i'm runing out of patience with this thing, the problem is i installed ubuntu, fist with the normal CD with no luck it would die as soon as the loading back started going back and forth it would just restart without aparent reason or warning, then some one recomemded me to
[02:47] <Kronos> use the alternate CD (text based one) this time it installed fine but after removing the CD and restarting the bar loads to 100% then when u expect it to start up or do soemthing the screen goes black and then i find myself looking at the bios screen again and the loop repeats it just stays stuck there doing the same thing over and over again... anyideas ... i really need some help right about now since i've nearly had
[02:47] <Kronos> it with my whole ubuntu experience its extremely frustrating coz i can get into root but i don't know a single command... seems the "safe mode" is less than usefull if ur not a pro at this
[02:47] <spectre__> Hi to all.I want to know if with the grub boot loader is possible to load more than 2 differents os ,thanks
[02:47] <IndyGunFreak> spectre__: uh, ya.. thats the whole idea of grub
[02:47] <ePax> spectre__:  Yes its possible.
[02:47] <mechdave> Incompetnce, then when finished type lpoptions -r number-up so you don't do all your printing like that!
[02:47] <IndyGunFreak> not only is it possible, its what Grub is designed for..lol
[02:48] <CarstenF> Indy: It wont let me move the window further up , and neither rezize it :-( , i can move it down but thats no help
[02:48] <IndyGunFreak> CarstenF: did you move the panel like i told you?
[02:48] <Incompetnce> mechdave, do you know a good website introduction to the command line, while im here? its something ive been meaning to learn about...
[02:48] <IndyGunFreak> if you move the panel to the side, then it will give you a little mroe room to move up.
[02:49] <] Spectre[> thanks to all
[02:49] <CarstenF> Indy: I did an autohide on the top panel , now i have just a hint of 3 buttons in bottom , can't read what they are though
[02:49] <tarsonis> Heya guys, is there a good webcam capturing tool in the reps?
[02:50] <rico> how do I list what files are 'owned' by a package in the cmd line?
[02:50] <alitis4> do u know what is this -> MySQL Strict Mode is not support
[02:50] <alitis4> what should i fo
[02:51] <jrib> rico: dpkg -L
[02:51] <guardian> hello
[02:51] <mechdave> Incompetnce, yeah, just go to http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/linux/cmd/ --< that is the one I use
[02:51] <guardian> is it normal that on my feisty ubuntu server, the root user doesn't have a home ?
[02:51] <guardian> when i do sudo -s , i end up in the user i created at install step
[02:52] <IndyGunFreak> CarstenF: do you have two panels?.. 1 on top, oen on bottom?
[02:52] <Incompetnce> mechdave, thanks for your help!
[02:52] <Incompetnce> incompetnce, AWAY!
[02:52] <jrib> guardian: you want 'sudo -i'
[02:52] <mechdave> Incompetnce, no worries, any time... Have fun mate :)
[02:52] <soundray> Kenny3: I'm back
[02:53] <neopsyche> (14:49:39) neopsyche: it appeards php is not configured on my system..
[02:53] <neopsyche> (14:49:48) neopsyche: however i did install LAMP from synaptic.
[02:53] <neopsyche> (14:49:56) neopsyche: does this mean i still need to configure it?
[02:53] <guardian> jrib: hmm may explain the difficulties i have with gpg and duplicity then :) launching my backup script via crontab fails because gpg fails to find the keys
[02:53] <jrib> !enter | neopsyche
[02:53] <ubotu> neopsyche: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:53] <Kronos> so many ppl here can any one gimme a hand?...
[02:54] <jrib> guardian: -s does not reset the environment
[02:54] <IdleOne> Kronos: what is your question
[02:54] <soundray> Kronos: you don't have to repeat it for IdleOne
[02:54] <rico> okay
[02:55] <rico> how do I find out what package owns a certain file?
[02:55] <Kronos> IdleOne: well as i said somewhere up above the system keeps restarting after installing ubuntu 7.04 with the alternate CD
[02:55] <rico> like, for example I want to know what package 'owns' /bin/bash
[02:55] <soundray> IdleOne: I'll summarize: fresh install, automatically reboots after bootup.
[02:55] <jrib> rico: dpkg -S
[02:55] <guardian> jrib: cool thx
[02:55] <IdleOne> soundray: yeah just read the post up there
[02:55] <Kronos> soundray: ty
[02:56] <IndyGunFreak> CarstenF: did you figure it out?
[02:56] <IdleOne> I had that same issue a couple realeses back but it was hardware issue
[02:56] <soundray> Kronos: have you tried booting in recovery mode?
[02:56] <rico> thanks jrib.
[02:56] <rico> :)
[02:56] <soundray> IdleOne: graphics hardware?
[02:56] <IdleOne> soundray: no the HD was bad apperently. was a hd I found laying in a closet
[02:57] <Kronos> soundray: by that i assume u mean b4 the 3 sec countdown goes u press esc and go into recovery mode or something like that..
[02:57] <CarstenF> Indy: Yes , the next is the rightmost button , and i have enough view to be able to select it .. thanx
[02:57] <Kronos> soundray: safe mode root or something?
[02:57] <wood1> !avant
[02:57] <soundray> Kronos: yes, second option from the grub menu
[02:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avant - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:57] <mushroomjay> Hi, can someone help me install Google Video Desktop Uploader?
[02:57] <wood1> !awn
[02:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about awn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:57] <joachim-n> what counts as a 'hunk' in a patchfile?
[02:58] <wood1> I just installed Avant Window Navigator, but the application is not opening, anyone knows why?
[02:58] <Skyrail> I'm looking for some information on the hosts.deny and hosts.allow files as they're not in the normal /etc/ location on ubuntu, at least not on my machine, unless I've missed something?
[02:58] <soundray> joachim-n: a piece that gets replaced
[02:58] <joachim-n> so is that a section that#s marked with a @@ line?
[02:58] <Kronos> soundray: yes done that but all i get is a command prompt but unfortunatly i dont know a single command
[02:58] <soundray> joachim-n: yeah
[02:58] <joachim-n> because patch tells me 1 out of 9 failed, but I see far more than 9 sections in the file
[02:58] <bogor> how to change group permission of a .iso file from root to user ashwin. I tried both cmd line & gui mode, didn't work
[02:59] <soundray> Kronos: but that's good, because from there, we can help you do some diagnostics. Are you chatting from another machine?
[02:59] <Tomcat_> bogor: (sudo) chgrp ashwin <file>
[02:59] <Kronos> soundray: yep...
[02:59] <Kronos> soundray: just need to start the recovery mode, should i?
[03:00] <soundray> Kronos: yes please
[03:00] <mushroomjay> How do you install Google Video desktop uploader?
[03:00] <Kenny3> soundray: im back too
[03:00] <IdleOne> mushroomjay: do you have a .deb file for it?
[03:00] <mushroomjay> Yes I do
[03:00] <soundray> Kenny3: did you get my message about the missing newline?
[03:00] <Kronos> soundray: right up and runing
[03:00] <mushroomjay> Oh the .deb file? no
[03:00] <bogor> Tomcat_: it says operation not permitted
[03:00] <p0seidon> hi@all
[03:00] <Tomcat_> bogor: In that case, use "sudo" in front.
[03:01] <IdleOne> mushroomjay: in terminal type cd Desktop ( assuming the file is on Desktop ) then dpkg -i filename.deb
[03:01] <revilodraw> hi! what program should i use to join two .avi files?
[03:01] <soundray> Kronos: enter 'grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf' (note it's all case sensitive). What's the last line?
[03:01] <mushroomjay> Ok, thank you IdleOne.
[03:01] <p0seidon> could anybody help a noob?
[03:01] <Kenny3> soundray: its gone in the log here somewhere...
[03:01] <Tomcat_> !ask | p0seidon
[03:01] <ubotu> p0seidon: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:01] <bogor> Tomcat_:I tried with sudo also, same error.
[03:01] <IdleOne> mushroomjay: you probably need to prepnd command with sudo
[03:01] <Tomcat_> bogor: What kind of file system is that?
[03:01] <soundray> Kenny3: have you still got the downloaded xorg.conf on your desktop?
[03:01] <bogor> Tomcat_: The file is in usb stick, does that matter?
[03:01] <IdleOne> mushroomjay: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[03:02] <p0seidon> i didnt ask to ask a question... i just asked for help ^^
[03:02] <bogor> Tomcat_: i formatted it as vfat
[03:02] <Kenny3> soundray: yes
[03:02] <Tomcat_> bogor: Yes. Most USB sticks are in FAT, which doesn't have users or groups or permissions at all.
[03:02] <revilodraw> p0seidon: lol they like doing that... what is your issue?
[03:02] <Tomcat_> bogor: So there's no way to change it. Just use it.
[03:02] <Skyrail> p0seidon: just say the question and someone might pick it up and might be able to give you an answer
[03:02] <soundray> Kenny3: do a 'echo >>~/Desktop/xorg.conf' to fix it.
[03:02] <Tomcat_> !anybody | p0seidon
[03:02] <ubotu> p0seidon: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:02] <Tomcat_> p0seidon: That better? Hehe ;D
[03:03] <bogor> Tomcat_: i get error when burning the iso to cd . Is it b'cos of permission problem ?
[03:03] <mushroomjay> IdleOne: It says "cannot access archive: No such file or directory" even though I put in the correct name and the file is on my desktop.
[03:03] <Tomcat_> bogor: Depends on the error.
[03:03] <revilodraw> what program should i use to join two .avi files?
[03:03] <p0seidon> i try to install ubuntu the first time. when the software has to be installed, the installation freezes at 6%. does anybody know, what to do?
[03:03] <IdleOne> mushroomjay: and you cd Desktop first?
[03:03] <Kenny3> soundray: didi it, what did this do?
[03:03] <mushroomjay> Yes I did.
[03:04] <soundray> p0seidon: check the CD. There is a boot option for it.
[03:04] <soundray> Kenny3: it fixed the last line of the file. It should have ended with a newline character.
[03:04] <Tomcat_> revilodraw: Package avifile-utils...
[03:04] <p0seidon> i tried 6 cds, 3 times desktop and 3 times alternate.
[03:04] <slimjimflim> does anyone know how to completely remove mysql from feisty?...package names?
[03:04] <Tomcat_> revilodraw: And probably avicat or something. Never tried.
[03:05] <soundray> Kenny3: now copy it to the proper directory again: 'sudo cp ~/Desktop/xorg.conf /etc/X11'
[03:05] <IdleOne> mushroomjay: type ls ( does it list the file ) ?
[03:05] <Kenny3> soundray: but it still has only 163 lines
[03:05] <soundray> Kenny3: that's fine
[03:05] <mushroomjay> Yes it does, in orange.
[03:05] <revilodraw> tomcatL thanks!
[03:05] <Kronos> soundray: right sorry the delay the last one is Driver "vesa"
[03:05] <soundray> Kronos: do you know what graphics hardware you have?
[03:05] <IdleOne> mushroomjay: ok now sudo dpkg -i filename.deb ( type rte first 3-4 letters and hit tab )
[03:06] <revilodraw> ooh btw, where is all the stuff i install that i can't find icons for
[03:06] <oz0n> what package include compiler ??  base sistem?
[03:06] <oz0n> or?
[03:06] <soundray> Kenny3: we only added a newline character, not a whole extra line.
[03:06] <Tomcat_> oz0n: build-essential
[03:06] <oz0n>  Tm_T
[03:06] <mluser-home> Is it possible to have ubuntu log into an wifi access point at login without having to wait for a user to log into their account?
[03:06] <visual> Hello I'm trying to install Apanta.deb and It said I need Mozilla plugin
[03:06] <oz0n> Tomcat_
[03:06] <oz0n> thx
[03:06] <IdleOne> mushroomjay: Linux is case Sensitive ( Filename.deb and filename.deb are two diff files )
[03:06] <Kronos> yep, Gainward 6800GS AGP 512 MB (wired one i know they were never soposed to have released a 512 Mb version in AGP, but well i got one
[03:06] <visual> could some one point me to where I can download Mozilla
[03:06] <Kenny3> soundray: i did
[03:07] <visual> ok
[03:07] <Tomcat_> visual: synaptic
[03:07] <IdleOne> visual mozilla.org
[03:07] <Kenny3> soundray: restart x now?
[03:07] <visual> I not talking about firefox
[03:07] <IdleOne> visual: synaptic is a better choice
[03:07] <soundray> Kenny3: yes
[03:07] <visual> I search terminal, synapatic
[03:07] <visual> already
[03:08] <swarm> hey
[03:08] <soundray> Kronos: I can't tell from the model name -- is that nvidia?
[03:08] <swarm> how do i make a symlink from 1 dir to another?
[03:08] <bluefusionx> link -s d1 d2
[03:08] <Kronos> soundray: nvidia yep, 6800 GS
[03:08] <mushroomjay> IdleOne: It says dpkg: error processing GoogleVideoUploader.deb (--install): cannot access archive: No such file or director Errors were encountered while processing: GoogleVideoUploader.deb
[03:09] <soundray> Kronos: okay. Do you feel up to editing a system file using the nano editor?
[03:09] <revilodraw> tomcat: ok i downloaded avi-utils, now how do i use them?
[03:09] <Kenny3> soundray: pen still not workin
[03:09] <visual> Ok thanks I will search again
[03:09] <soundray> Kenny3: but X is up with the new xorg file?
[03:09] <Tomcat_> revilodraw: I don't know, never used them. Check out the docs (/usr/share/doc/avituils) or man pages (man <program>)
[03:09] <bluefusionx> Hello everyone!  For some reason my broadcom chip can detect wireless networks but cannot connect.  The gnome network thing says it cannot connect and wifi radar says it's connected.  Nevertheless I cannot load a webpage
[03:09] <Kronos> soundray: yep as long u are willing to explain, i dont mind, i'm completly uselss with linux but aint all that new to computers and this kind of things...
[03:09] <Tomcat_> revilodraw: A list of installed files is "dpkg -L avifile-utils"
[03:10] <IdleOne> mushroomjay: seems you dont have that file even though you do have it. I dont know what to tell you . ask your question again someone will be able to help better then I
[03:10] <mushroomjay> All right, thank you anyway, IdleOne.
[03:10] <revilodraw> tomcat: so stuff like this needs to be done via the command line?
[03:10] <Kenny3> soundray: yes
[03:10] <soundray> Kronos: the command to do this is 'nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf'. Go down in the file and find the line that says 'Driver "vesa"'. Replace the word "vesa" with "nv".
[03:11] <Tomcat_> revilodraw: If you use avifile-utils, yes. There are also GUI programs for editing videos, but I don't know those either. :)
[03:11] <soundray> Kenny3: can you see the tablet with lsusb?
[03:11] <revilodraw> tomcat: i still avoid the command line at all costs... lol... ill keep looking
[03:11] <Tomcat_> revilodraw: "kino" is a movie editor.
[03:12] <revilodraw> tomcat
[03:12] <revilodraw> tomcat: thanks
[03:12] <IdleOne> revilodraw: command line " cli " is good to know and learn to use
[03:12] <pippo> hi to all.I have booted with the live cd,entered in gparted as root,but If I try to resize my windows partition the automount remount it automatically,can you help me ? thanks
[03:12] <Kenny3> soundray: no, i think i need to readd it to vbox, cause i shut i t down before...
[03:12] <Skyrail> Do I need to restart anything after editing the hosts.allow/hosts.deny files?
[03:12] <Tomcat_> pippo: Deactive automounting in the settings.
[03:12] <soundray> pippo: go to System-Preferences-Removable Drives... and disable automounting.
[03:12] <Lhademmo1> Where is the "Ubuntu Desktop User Guide"?
[03:13] <soundray> Kenny3: I suggest you restart the guest and make sure it gets the USB.
[03:13] <pippo> thanks sound and Tom
[03:13] <Kronos> soundray: section "device" Identifiter "generic Video Card"  Driver "vesa" it would be here right?
[03:13] <soundray> Lhademmo1: are we a web search engine?
[03:13] <Lhademmo1> soundray, no a support channel
[03:13] <Kenny3> soundray: lsusb gets it now
[03:14] <soundray> Kenny3: and is it working?
[03:14] <zsz> a weird problem: all the people look purple when viewing avi with xine, but it's normal with vlc. Any ideas what could be wrong?
[03:14] <Lhademmo1> soundray, I meant in the SVN trunk, sorry
[03:14] <IdleOne> Lhademmo1: a quick google og ubuntu desktop guide will get you the link
[03:14] <revilodraw> zsz: me too... xine = poo
[03:14] <Kenny3> soundray: no
[03:15] <Lhademmo1> IdleOne, not that one. In the trunk
[03:15] <aleksanteri> what package provides gobject?
[03:15] <soundray> Kenny3: okay, give me a minute to retrace our steps
[03:15] <aleksanteri> i just can't find it
[03:15] <Lhademmo1> I can't find my way around in that damn SVN :P
[03:15] <Lhademmo1> the docteam svn I might add
[03:16] <IdleOne> Lhademmo1: sorry I wouldnt know
[03:16] <IdleOne> try #ubuntu-dev they might know
[03:16] <Kronos> soundray: right i got it, just wondering what to do next ....
[03:17] <soundray> Kronos: save the file, exit nano and enter 'reboot'. See if it made a difference & let me know.
[03:18] <LjL> swarm: man ln
[03:19] <soundray> Kenny3: open the xorg file with 'gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf'. Go to the section I added. There is a commented line saying 'Option "Device" "/dev/input/aiptektablet"'. Remove the # from the beginning of the line and put a # at the beginning of the line directly above that.
[03:21] <Kronos> soundray: omg ur the man... iit workssssss
[03:21] <Kenny3> soundray: there is a gnome-ui warning in console
[03:21] <soundray> Kronos: your hardware doesn't work well with the VESA graphics driver. We replaced it with the opensource nvidia driver.
[03:22] <soundray> Kronos: in the medium term, you might consider installing the closed-source driver from nvidia. Look ubotu:
[03:22] <soundray> !nvidia | kronos
[03:22] <ubotu> kronos: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:22] <Gh0st75> hello folks
[03:22] <soundray> Kenny3: when you do what?
[03:22] <Kronos> soundray: so i assime the vesa driver is some sort of universal vga driver?
[03:23] <Kenny3> soundray: what u said
[03:23] <soundray> Kronos: spot on.
[03:23] <soundray> Kenny3: does the file open for editing?
[03:23] <Kenny3> soundrey: yes
[03:23] <soundray> Kenny3: okay, then do as I suggested, save the file and restart X
[03:23] <Lamego> VESA is a standard specification
[03:23] <Gh0st75> just installed Ubuntu the other day for the first time. has there been much progress lately with wireless on macbook c2d's (second gen) and 64 bit feisty? it's been awhile since i tried tinkering with Kubuntu
[03:24] <Kronos> soundray: thought so, thank you... ahh btw also is it simple to install this other driver u were telling me about or ...?
[03:24] <Meroigo> Can't you make Monday the first day in the week in the calendar when you click on the clock? :P
[03:24] <soundray> Kronos: not if you follow the guide that ubotu pointed out to you.
[03:24] <soundray> !nvidia > Kronos, now you have it as a private message
[03:24] <Meroigo> they should add that to the preferences..
[03:25] <Kronos> soundray: right i will thank you again.
[03:25] <Kenny3> soundrey: still not workin
[03:26] <soundray> Meroigo: you can in gconf-editor
[03:26] <Meroigo> soundray, okay
[03:26] <Kenny3> soundray: still not workin
[03:27] <soundray> Kenny3: then I don't know, sorry. Have another look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AiptekTablet , but I think we've followed that exactly.
[03:27] <sayers> Is there a way to change the terminal font in tty
[03:27] <soundray> Meroigo: look for /apps/evolution/calendar/display/week_start_day
[03:27] <Kenny3> soundray: shall i load aiptek module ?
[03:28] <Meroigo> "Weekday the week starts on, from Sunday (0) to Saturday (6)."
[03:28] <Meroigo> it's already set on "1"
[03:28] <Meroigo> which i think is monday..
[03:29] <soundray> Kenny3: it loads automatically. 'lsmod' to check -- it should list aiptek
[03:29] <Meroigo> i think maybe it's the clock applet in gnome panels that isn't very good? :P maybe?
[03:29] <[cc] smart> i'd like to poke with some initrd scritps. where can i get the current initrd (scripts) without doing a full installation of ubuntu ?
[03:30] <jamyskis> does anyone have any idea about nvidia and tv-out (both ubuntu and windows)?
[03:30] <soundray> Meroigo: no, it's very, very good ;)
[03:30] <Kenny3> soundray: did we do "In there, and for your mouse (probably "Configured Mouse" make sure it's set to "CorePointer"." ?
[03:30] <soundray> Meroigo: the setting must be overridden by locales. Weeks start on Monday in my clock applet...
[03:31] <soundray> Kenny3: yes, that's the change I made at the bottom of the file.
[03:31] <hozano> Hi folks. The automount of my ubuntu do not open my pen drive and show this error: mount_point cannot contain the following character... Where i configure it ?
[03:31] <compwiz18> is there a command to get a list of all the modules currently in use?
[03:32] <soundray> compwiz18: lsmod
[03:32] <compwiz18> soundray, thanks
[03:32] <Meroigo> soundray, yeah the settings in that screen isn't as the ones I've set in my clocks.
[03:32] <Kenny3> soundray: so now i hav the linux kernel device driver installed?
[03:32] <stefg> hozano: usually the mount point is extracted from the label of the filesystem. So i'd give the filesystem on the stick a name with standard characters only
[03:32] <soundray> hozano: it's the filesystem label that's responsible there.
[03:33] <soundray> Kenny3: yes, if lsmod said so
[03:34] <hozano> How can I change this label ?
[03:34] <hozano> stefg: stefg
[03:34] <soundray> hozano: I don't know how to change the filesystem label once the partition is formatted. Perhaps you can do it in Windows.
[03:34] <Linukka> how can i view xml in firefox?
[03:35] <stefg> hozano: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RenameUSBDrive
[03:35] <Kenny3> soundray: and now it should work? no condiguration for pressure or absolute realtive functioning?
[03:35] <hozano> stefg: thanks
[03:35] <hozano> soundray: thanks
[03:36] <soundray> Kenny3: it's all in xorg.conf
[03:36] <Kenny3> soundray: and what now? its not workin
[03:37] <DrSmall> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=569608
[03:38] <soundray> Kenny3: I don't know. Is it a hardware problem, perhaps?
[03:38] <soundray> Kenny3: pen battery flat?
[03:39] <Kenny3> soundray: tablet works fine on windows. i can move cursor on ubuntu but the pressure in gimp isnt workin
[03:40] <soundray> Kenny3: that's kind of important information -- big difference between "not working" and "can move cursor"...
[03:40] <Kenny3> soundray: alright...
[03:41] <DrSmall> :'(
[03:42] <DrSmall> Hello.
[03:43] <soundray> DrSmall: have some patience
[03:43] <DrSmall> I am
[03:43] <DrSmall> been waiting ever since 8 o clock last night
[03:43] <soundray> DrSmall: that's not a long time to wait for free help with a difficult problem. Have you looked at $HOME/.xsession-errors
[03:44] <DrSmall> No I have not, but I surely will
[03:44] <compwiz18> DrSmall, are you using fglrx or nvidia drivers?
[03:44] <DrSmall> nvidia
[03:45] <compwiz18> (that was a wild shot in the dark, I have no idea if that is the problem or not)
[03:45] <DrSmall> the thing is, everything worked 4 days ago.
[03:45] <DrSmall> I'll post the errors on the thread
[03:46] <Hurga> Hi there. I'd like to use Ubuntu Dapper with a more recent kernel (2.6.18 or later). Did someone try this? What are the pitfalls?
[03:46] <compwiz18> DrSmall, edit your post, don't add a new post, that way it will still show up in unanswered threads
[03:46] <compwiz18> DrSmall, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[03:46] <Kenny3> soundray: so does this change anything that i can move cursor but no pressure?
[03:46] <DrSmall> 7.04
[03:46] <compwiz18> DrSmall, any updates recently?
[03:47] <DrSmall> no.
[03:47] <BulleT-> Please help me with a problem. I can't listen music no more and i don't know why. XMMS gives me the following error: "Please check that: Your soundcard is configured properly. You have the correct output plugin selected. No other program is blocking the sound card"
[03:47] <compwiz18> DrSmall, have you been playing with any config files recently?
[03:48] <DrSmall> nothing save xorg, which messed up my games from being played, so I overwrote it with my old backup.
[03:49] <soundray> Kenny3: yeah, it changes a lot. If your mouse is moving now, it means that what we have done so far was successful. If it wasn't moving, we might as well start at the beginning. So be a bit more optimistic.
[03:49] <compwiz18> DrSmall, did you do that before or after you started having this issue?
[03:49] <DrSmall> after
[03:50] <zsz> for some reason I cannot use concurrrently more than one application that is able to play sound. How to fix this?
[03:50] <compwiz18> DrSmall, so that isn't the cause. did you install any new themes recently?
[03:50] <Kenny3> soundray: well it moved before, but that could be because it was still attached to xp
[03:50] <compwiz18> zsz, use alsa, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[03:50] <DrSmall> No. And I have changed themes, and the problem still persists.
[03:50] <zsz> compwiz18, feisty. I am using alsa
[03:51] <BulleT-> Please help :-s
[03:51] <compwiz18> zsz, chances are there is one program you're running that isn't using alsa
[03:51] <aleksanteri> what package provides gobject?
[03:51] <zsz> compwiz18, any way to check which one?
[03:51] <aleksanteri> which package provides gobject? *
[03:51] <compwiz18> DrSmall, you could try making a new user and seeing if they have the same issue
[03:51] <kuyky> DrSmall: does the problem only happen when you use gksudo?
[03:51] <josh_> what was the commands for installing from tarbell again?
[03:52] <josh_> config -> make -> make install?
[03:52] <DrSmall> it happens with all of the ways to sudo, and does the same for new accounts.
[03:52] <soundray> Kenny3: okay, in order for pressure sensitivity to work, you have to give the guest full control over the device. If it still works in XP, then ubuntu doesn't have full control.
[03:52] <josh_> or just make -> make install
[03:52] <axel_s> hi, how canI list the files contained in a package?
[03:52] <aleksanteri> josh_: depends on do you have a Makefile in the root directory of the archive
[03:52] <soundray> DrSmall: that error log you added, does it cover a period when you crashed nautilus?
[03:52] <compwiz18> zsz, you can try running lsof | grep "/dev/dsp" and see if that gives you anything, otherwise, just start closing programs down until it works again... :S
[03:53] <aleksanteri> josh_: if there is a makefile you can just run make && make install, but if there's configure instead run it
[03:53] <kuyky> DrSmall: have you tried reconfiguring or reinstalling sudo and gksudo?
[03:53] <josh_> ok
[03:53] <soundray> axel_s: dpkg -L packagename
[03:53] <josh_> thank you very much
[03:53] <DrSmall> I do not think that is the problem, because it works perfect if I start a session as ROOT.
[03:53] <Kenny3> soundray: ye, i changed that sometime at beginning, it is now fully attached to vbox/ubuntu
[03:53] <axel_s> soundray, thanks
[03:53] <fermatstheorem> my fellow knights...
[03:54] <BulleT-> Please help me with a problem. I can't listen music no more and i don't know why. XMMS gives me the following error: "Please check that: Your soundcard is configured properly. You have the correct output plugin selected. No other program is blocking the sound card"
[03:54] <compwiz18> DrSmall, something bad happens when you run gui programs with sudo, but I can't remember what it is.  if you want, you can look up running gui programs with sudo and see what comes up
[03:54] <zsz> compwiz18, lsof | grep dsp did not give any results
[03:54] <fermatstheorem> BulleT-: in the output plugins did you choose OSS?
[03:55] <DrSmall> ajmorris told me contrary. He said it doesn't effect it.
[03:55] <compwiz18> zsz, I didn't think that would give you anything.  Are you running pidgin or audacity?
[03:55] <zsz> compwiz18, I'm running pidgin
[03:56] <BulleT-> fermatstheorem, i didn't played with XMMS.
[03:56] <fermatstheorem> you said xmms gave some error...
[03:56] <pen> what's going on?
[03:56] <BulleT-> fermatstheorem, plus, the login/out sounds aren't no more...
[03:56] <josh_> ok, freenx on edgy is kicking my butt
[03:56] <soundray> Kenny3: have a look at gimp's File-Preferences-Input devices
[03:57] <josh_> i downloaded it but i have no setup files
[03:57] <josh_> i dont have a make file, or a make install file
[03:57] <soundray> !freenx > josh_, please read ubotu's private message
[03:58] <soundray> josh_: make sure you install the ubuntu packages, not some other download
[03:58] <sage> Hi,Is there a Linux which can run well on 128 MB RAM?????
[03:58] <pen> How can I install QQ software?
[03:58] <josh_> yeah i have been there soundray
[03:58] <haoubuntu> who now the sound of linux
[03:58] <Kenny3> soundray: what do i do there?
[03:59] <fermatstheorem> BulleT-: no more?
[03:59] <soundray> Kenny3: I don't know, have a look
[03:59] <josh_> after adding seaveas' repo, doing the apt-get update, it doesn't show freenx being a package to get
[03:59] <tupac> hi .. can any one help me ? iam using ubuntu 7.04 in my latop the sound its not working can any one guide me how to fix it plz ??
[03:59] <zsz> compwiz18, seemed to be a problem with lastfm player. after closing it I am able to start both amarok and mplayer, both reproduce sound.
[03:59] <_Zeus_> where can I get remote X11 help?
[03:59] <BulleT-> fermatstheorem, is something about pulseaudio |  Oct  7 16:58:51 nasa pulseaudio[8537] : pid.c: daemon already running.
[04:00] <_Zeus_> I get this error with remote X11:Xlib: connection to "wireless4.home:0.0" refused by server
[04:00] <_Zeus_> Xlib: No protocol specified
[04:00] <soundray> !sound | tupac, haoubuntu
[04:00] <ubotu> tupac, haoubuntu: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:00] <ipx> sage: i think it'll work great, just use a lighter windows manager like fluxbox or xfce instead of gnome or kde :)
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> _Zeus_ and how are you connecting?
[04:00] <Kenny3> soundray: there is nothing bout tablet
[04:00] <_Zeus_> through PuTTY SSH
[04:00] <fermatstheorem> BulleT-: sorry man... i dont get it...
[04:00] <_Zeus_> I did xhost +
[04:00] <_Zeus_> and I have another laptop, same config, and it works fine
[04:00] <_Zeus_> i have read pages of google results
[04:01] <soundray> _Zeus_: do you have an X server running under Windows?
[04:01] <_Zeus_> nope, it
[04:01] <_Zeus_> *it's UNIX/FreeBSD
[04:01] <hozano> soundray: I had change the label of usb driver, but the problem still persist
[04:01] <soundray> _Zeus_: putty?
[04:01] <_Zeus_> yup and SSH
[04:01] <josh_> uhh... if he is connecting thru putty, he shouldn't have a display...
[04:01] <BulleT-> Oct  7 17:01:04 nasa pulseaudio[8757] : pid.c: daemon already running.
[04:01] <BulleT-> Oct  7 17:01:04 nasa pulseaudio[8757] : main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed.
[04:01] <BulleT-> How to kill that ?
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> _Zeus_ if its a linux/linux connection use 'ssh -X' or ssh -Y
[04:01] <cyrano> Hi. I have a problem with thunderbird. I downloaded my entire mailbox from my online mail.
[04:01] <cyrano> Then i close thunderbird. When i reopened it suddenly the 20k mail i had downloaded had disapeared... and it started downloading from the start again. But, when i look in the thunderbird folder my inbox file is still 3 Gb... can anyone help me get back my mail without downloading all again.
[04:02] <cyrano> thx
[04:02] <_Zeus_> here's my Xorg.0.log: Xlib: connection to "wireless4.home:0.0" refused by server
[04:02] <_Zeus_> Xlib: No protocol specified
[04:02] <wolli> hi alle im chat
[04:02] <soundray> !de | wolli
[04:02] <ubotu> wolli: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:03] <Gnimsh> hey everyone
[04:03] <_Zeus_> 9930 X: client 3 rejected from IP 172.20.1.128
[04:03] <_Zeus_> ^^^ Xorg.0.log
[04:03] <Gnimsh> I just had an idea that I wanted to get an opinion on, because I have no idea if it might actually work
[04:03] <Gnimsh> In the new asus laptops there are builtin webcams don't work in ubuntu (D-Max Syntek something or other)
[04:04] <Gnimsh> I was wondering if you could do something with ndiswrapper with the wireless card drivers from windows but instead use the windows drivers for the webcam?
[04:04] <inflex> *sigh* why does CUPS screw up so much
[04:04] <tatters> Will a p3 600mhz 192mb ram run fiestys edubuntu
[04:04] <hozano> soundray: The label was changed. The mlabel shows the new label.
[04:04] <Gnimsh> tatters, you could try xubuntu
[04:04] <Gnimsh> Its made for lower end systems
[04:04] <Haz> why is gaim still referred to as gaim, when it's now pidgin?
[04:04] <soundray> tatters: yes, just
[04:04] <hozano> soundray: This problem began when I rename the mount point using nautilus... Any idea?
[04:04] <Kenny3> soundray: what now?
[04:05] <inflex> I mean, hell, I've got a HP laser printer with Postscript native ability, LPRng worked fine (as did lpd)... but here comes CUPS and everything just screws up every couple of days and I have to reboot just to clear some magical lock file which doesn't show up anywhere and isn't even reported in any of the log files
[04:05] <soundray> Kenny3: why don't you describe your problem to the channel again.
[04:06] <Kenny3> soundray: how do i install the gaiptek tablet tool?
[04:06] <soundray> inflex: is there a question coming? If you just want to sound off, go to #ubuntu+1 please
[04:06] <tatters> would it be bet to install edubuntu then xubuntu-dektop or xubuntu first ,
[04:06] <cyrano> Hi. I have a problem with thunderbird. I downloaded my entire mailbox from my online mail.
[04:06] <cyrano> Then i close thunderbird. When i reopened it suddenly the 20k mail i had downloaded had disapeared... and it started downloading from the start again. But, when i look in the thunderbird folder my inbox file is still 3 Gb... can anyone help me get back my mail without downloading all again.
[04:06] <cyrano> thx
[04:06] <soundray> Kenny3: I don't know. Ask the channel.
[04:07] <Gnimsh> Kenny3, synaptic?
[04:07] <tatters> there a meta package available for edubuntu if I install xubuntu first?
[04:07] <inflex> soundray: the question is: How can I reset cups without rebooting (incidently, /etc/init.d/cups stop   (and start, or restart) don't clear the problem
[04:07] <inflex> the HP printer is working fine, as is the USB subsystem (as I can send Postscript directly to /dev/usblp0 and it prints)
[04:07] <Kenny3> Can anyone tell me how to get my aiptek hyperpen 8000u to work?
[04:07] <Gnimsh> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122735
[04:07] <Gnimsh> Kenny3 ^^
[04:07] <pen> how to install real player?
[04:07] <Kenny3> Gnimsh: whats that?
[04:07] <Gnimsh> Whenever I've needed to install anything on ubuntu I google
[04:07] <nomasteryoda> tatters, if you look in synaptic, or apt-cache search ....yes
[04:08] <Gnimsh> HOWTO: Install latest aiptektablet drivers from CVS
[04:08] <soundray> Kenny3: you need to say that you have loaded the kernel driver and that you have configured X, and that the tablet works except the pressure-sensitivity feature.
[04:08] <hozano> stefg: I had change the label of usb driver, but the problem still persist
[04:08] <hozano> stefg: This problem began when I rename the mount point using nautilus... Any idea?
[04:08] <Gnimsh> to install realplayer: http://www.ubuntux.org/how-to-install-the-realplayer-multimedia-player
[04:08] <Gnimsh> google is a lifesaver using ubuntu...
[04:09] <pen> thanks
[04:10] <soundray> Gnimsh: your webcam driver idea could work, but it's probably easier to write a native camera driver.
[04:10] <stefg> hozano: unmount and unplug the stick, then remove the subdir in /media. The automounter should take care of mountpoint creation. There's even some .hal-* files in /media which you should delete
[04:10] <thompa> im not sure which version to use on intel macbook. I thought 64 was best but site says to use 386 for intel macs?
[04:10] <Gnimsh> interesting
[04:10] <Gnimsh> there're a bunch of projects out there working on it already
[04:11] <Gnimsh> the one I found has a driver available but once I get the package I have no idea how to install the driver
[04:11] <Gnimsh> make and all that are a bit beyond me :(
[04:11] <Kenny3> omg, i still hate the whole console sh** of linux.... thats the only reason why i didnt change to linux, i thought its fixed now with some nice guui, setup files, whateva, but its still same shit, u would get much more users if u just put some atumatic setup or gui there...
[04:11] <stefg> hozano: then lg the stick back in and see if it changes soemthing
[04:11] <soundray> Gnimsh: remember the reason why ndiswrapper works is that there is this ndis thing, which to my limited understanding is something like vesa, standardizing the things a driver has to do to a certain extent
[04:11] <stefg> *plug
[04:11] <Kenny3> * sorry for the second sh** not censored... lol
[04:11] <OM1136> got the latest beagle 0.2.18 to compile and install and work, but there's no evolution backend
[04:12] <Gnimsh> interesting
[04:12] <OM1136> is there a solution for that?
[04:12] <hozano> stefg: ok. I will try it.
[04:12] <compwiz18> Kenny3, the Ubuntu team is working on that as fast as possible :)
[04:12] <Damjan> where I can find guide for nvidia card
[04:12] <soundray> thompa: use i386 for fewer problems with closed-source apps like Adobe Reader and flash. Use x86_64 to get the last bit of performance, only relevant when you do numbercrunching stuff.
[04:12] <Kenny3> compwiz18: r u developer there?
[04:12] <compwiz18> Kenny3, nope
[04:13] <mahrellon> Yay
[04:13] <thompa> Kenny3: what are you talking about most everything is gui in gnome
[04:13] <mahrellon> *Hay
[04:13] <wilson> is there going to be a new strigi package soon ?
[04:13] <inflex> Kenny3: conversely, I -hate- that everything has become gui-admin-only now
[04:13] <ipx> Kenny3: you gotta se the positive in it
[04:13] <pen> "bash: sudo-get: command not found
[04:13] <pen> " what's up?
[04:13] <inflex> I mean, none of the text configs make any sense anymore when you go to adjust them
[04:13] <hozano> stefg: Did not work... =/
[04:13] <soundray> Kenny3: after all the help I've given you, what I get in return is a swearing rant?
[04:14] <josh_> what version of ubuntu is out right now?
[04:14] <josh_> edgy?
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> Gutsy is getting released in a few weeks
[04:14] <ipx> Kenny3: it gives you ALOT of possibilities when you can control the whole operating system through a terminal, especielly when you can do it through SSH and from anywhere in the world. It is a VERY powerfull function linux has that windows doesnt.
[04:14] <Damjan> How to set xgl on nvidia?
[04:14] <coulix> Hello, what is the shell command line which shows me wich mouse button i pressed ?
[04:14] <thompa> soundray: i dont care about flash much and dont use adobe. im running 386 now on intel macbook and its working great
[04:14] <ipx> inflex: agree
[04:14] <ipx> +d
[04:14] <compwiz18> coulix, I'm not sure this is exaclty what you want, but try xev
[04:14] <josh_> ok, i have edgy on my system right now and it wont allow me to upgrade
[04:14] <hozano> stefg: same problem
[04:14] <josh_> i cant get fawn
[04:14] <Gnimsh> Why not josh?
[04:14] <Gnimsh> How are you trying to upgrade it?
[04:14] <ipx> josh_: wait 2 weeks for gutsy gibbon 7.10 release :)
[04:15] <thompa> soundray: im running gutsy thanks
[04:15] <josh_> i dont know. I do "apt-get dist-upgrade" and it doesn't do anything
[04:15] <stefg> hozano: look at dmesg (or !paste it )
[04:15] <Gnimsh> Did you try the update manager instead?
[04:15] <tesko> is ext3 the best choice for a home desktop pc?
[04:15] <stefg> !paste | hozano
[04:15] <compwiz18> tesko, yes
[04:15] <inflex> Of course, what I love about Ubuntu is that apt-get sorts out the packages - but yes, dang, those gui configs are annoying
[04:15] <Gnimsh> Does edgy have an update manager?
[04:15] <ubotu> hozano: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:15] <Dr_Willis> tesko and in most other cases as well :)
[04:15] <josh_> tipx, im sure going from eft to gibbon aint going to be pretty
[04:15] <tesko> thank you
[04:15] <compwiz18> tesko, np
[04:15] <Kenny3> soundray: thanks for the help, but i just dont like the console/terminal T.T
[04:15] <coulix> thks !!
[04:16] <stefg> tesko: it's the best allround filesystem, although there are faster/better alternatives for special purposes
[04:16] <josh_> Gnimsh: yeah it should... but if apt-get cant find it, apttitude wont be able to either
[04:16] <ipx> I think you're just being naive and used to old habbits, Kenny3.
[04:16] <inflex> yeah, some people love chocolate, some vanilla - but you can't please them both
[04:16] <dhruv> any body as any idea what this means "ImportError: /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/tapioca-0.14/tapioca/_client.so: undefined symbol: tpa_channel_has_joined"
[04:16] <Dr_Willis> REALLY old habbits = the shell. :)
[04:16] <soundray> thompa: if you already have i386, it's probably not worth starting over and installing the 64 bit version.
[04:16] <wilson> i use jfs
[04:16] <ipx> You're used to an operating system that is fully graphical (windows) and have a hard time seeing the possibilities in a terminal
[04:16] <Dr_Willis> dont make me get out the punch cards.
[04:16] <josh_> sure you can, chocolate vanilla ice cream
[04:17] <inflex> Dr_Willis: I've got my abbacus
[04:17] <dhruv> ipx, i saw this in the terminal ImportError: /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/tapioca-0.14/tapioca/_client.so: undefined symbol: tpa_channel_has_joined
[04:17] <dhruv> help me
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> inflex i got sliderules.
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> :)
[04:17] <stefg> OS fights go over to #ubuntu-offtopic, plz
[04:17] <karmelek> my friend is trying to install ubuntu
[04:17] <Damjan> how to reinstall nvidia drivers
[04:17] <karmelek> and he reports me an error
[04:17] <karmelek> BusyBox v1.1.3(Debian 1:1.1.3-2ubuntu3) Built-in schell (ash)
[04:17] <karmelek>  Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands
[04:17] <karmelek>  /bin/sh: can't acces tty; job control turned off
[04:17] <karmelek>  (initranfs)
[04:17] <dhruv> wilson i got ereseva installed
[04:17] <josh_> stefg: are you from GA?
[04:18] <karmelek> have somebody any ideas about it?
[04:18] <josh_> well Virgin Islands now
[04:18] <dhruv> wilson: this is the erroe ImportError: /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/tapioca-0.14/tapioca/_client.so: undefined symbol: tpa_channel_has_joined
[04:18] <ipx> dhruv: i think you gotta tell us (not me) more about the problem before you get an answer :)
[04:18] <stefg> josh_: no
[04:18] <dhruv> i got ereseva installed
[04:18] <josh_> ok, i dont know you then
[04:18] <josh_> continue on with your day
[04:18] <dhruv> running it from the terminal gave the error
[04:18] <josh_> lol
[04:19] <Damjan> i can't work, please help with my card
[04:19] <hozano> stefg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39861/
[04:19] <mckensey> hello
[04:19] <mckensey> i need help in spanish
[04:19] <Haz> !ubuntu-es | mckensey
[04:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-es - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:20] <mckensey> thanks
[04:20] <hozano> stefg: the device is /dev/sdb and I had removed .hal* files
[04:20] <tesko> my soundcard doesnt like windows so im installing linux for the whole "install linux problem solved" schmegeggie. also i hear it will work if i can just get alsa running right
[04:20] <dhruv> how do i fix this "ImportError: /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/tapioca-0.14/tapioca/_client.so: undefined symbol: tpa_channel_has_joined
[04:20] <dhruv> "
[04:21] <Ximal> how do you set Xchat Gnome Chat ? to have upon startup script to run ?
[04:21] <Ximal> like on startup join and identify ? i can't find the proper options..
[04:23] <OM1136> got the latest beagle 0.2.18 to compile and install and work, but there's no evolution backend
[04:23] <OM1136> is there a solution for that?
[04:24] <aguitel> buen dia
[04:25] <cox377> Hey
[04:25] <tbuss> i've just installed feisty and have noticed that Epiphany and Firefox both crash when loading pages. They both crash when trying to access menu items in the toolbar as well?
[04:25] <stefg> hozano: looks perfectly normal.... hmmm. would be interesting if a reboot or hal rstart changes anything
[04:26] <zsz> tbuss, start firefox from command line and see what the error message is
[04:26] <rembat> hi
[04:26] <stefg> tbuss: are you using the default ubuntu gtk-theme ?
[04:26] <sunup> any idea on installing a cannon printer mp180
[04:27] <hozano> stefg: the same usb driver works normally until I rename the mount point through nautilus...
[04:27] <aguitel> anyone know how configure a local network ?
[04:27] <josh_> what is the remote desktop sftware i can use to connect to my linux box from my kids windows box
[04:27] <josh_> freenx aint going to work because i cant get it installed or find the correct packages apparantly
[04:27] <josh_> vnc has no security, and it doesn't have rdp...
[04:27] <wilson> dont use freenx, just use nx
[04:27] <hozano> stefg: where the automount gets the cached configurations of usb drives ?
[04:27] <josh_> nx huh?
[04:27] <wilson> http://www.nomachine.com
[04:27] <josh_> where can i get taht?
[04:28] <josh_> not on the windows side
[04:28] <josh_> im talking about the server side
[04:28] <stefg> hozano: no idea, but a reboot would refresh that
[04:28] <wilson> yes there's a free server for linux, i think it lets you tunnel like 2 desktops
[04:28] <wilson> which should be fine for you
[04:28] <josh_> ok
[04:29] <hozano> stefg: Ok. I will reboot then.
[04:29] <josh_> ill give it shot
[04:29] <hozano> stefg: thanks for all
[04:29] <wilson> i use it all the time josh_
[04:29] <stefg> np
[04:29] <GnimshUMN> doh
[04:29] <GnimshUMN> the wireless is being finnicky
[04:29] <GnimshUMN> my downloads have stalled :(
[04:30] <tbuss> zsz: started ff from cli...crashed
[04:30] <tbuss> stefg: yes
[04:31] <stefg> ?
[04:31] <zsz> tbuss, what was the error message? It just stated "crashed"?
[04:31] <josh_> how do i install from rpms again?
[04:31] <chris85> Hello,  inside window's device manager, ports are listed as COM1, COM2, etc. Is this "COM1" equivalent to "Controller #1" in Ubuntu's Device Manager?
[04:31] <josh_> alien?
[04:31] <tbuss> zsz: correct, when a page tries to load it just crashes...nothing after that. I checked htop and it's not running
[04:32] <zsz> tbuss, so your cli looks like this:
[04:32] <zsz> tbuss, $firefox
[04:32] <zsz> tbuss, crashed
[04:32] <zsz> tbuss, $
[04:32] <tbuss> zsz: correct...
[04:32] <stefg> tbuss: flash is known to crash firefox in some cases, don't know if that relates
[04:33] <wilson> chris85: /dev/ttyS0
[04:33] <tbuss> zsz: epiphany does the same thing
[04:33] <notgod> hello. :) I am having a problem with audio going away on my system.
[04:33] <tbuss> stefg: could a vlc plugin for ff cause this reaction
[04:33] <stefg> tbuss: yes
[04:33] <josh_> how do i install rpm's again?
[04:34] <tbuss> stefg: how do I uninstall?
[04:34] <wilson> why are u trying to install rpms josh_ ?
[04:34] <josh_> wilson: because the nxserver from nomachine is in rpm format
[04:34] <GrendelS> hello, I'm new to ubuntu. I'm trying to get rid of the Windows curse. I installed it successfully (no error messages) on my notebook, a Samsung 20x 1860 Balin, but after the boot up window, it gets dark and after I hear drums (I suppose that's the login message?) I can't see anything at all. Could someone point me to a possible solution thread, I'm not even sure what I could be looking for...?
[04:34] <wilson> nah there's a deb package man
[04:34] <stefg> tbuss: how did you install it ?
[04:34] <josh_> ....
[04:34] <zsz> tbuss, could also be problem with flash plugin
[04:35] <stefg> tbuss: any automatix/envy/easyubuntu involved ?
[04:35] <wilson> http://www.nomachine.com/select-package.php?os=linux&id=1  it's the second one down ?!!??!
[04:35] <chris85> wilson: Thank you.  I am using a program that requires the user to enter the input communication port.  I can choose from COM1-COM9 (written for windows but I am told it works in Linux as well.)  I am using a Radio Shack USB-Serail connector.  I can see it in device manager, but I'm not sure which com port to input into the program.
[04:35] <tbuss> stefg: sudo apt-get install vlc vlc-plugin-* mozilla-plugin-vlc
[04:35] <josh_> oh snap
[04:35] <josh_> lol
[04:36] <josh_> god im blind
[04:36] <stefg> tbuss: so simply rplace 'install' with 'remove' ... .-)
[04:36] <josh_> lol ignore me wilson, i haven't had any coffee yet :P
[04:36] <wii> only now u know your blind?
[04:36] <wilson> it's ok
[04:36] <josh_> yep
[04:36] <wilson> heh
[04:36] <josh_> i didn't realize i was blind before
[04:36] <GrendelS> I've looked at the support forums, but search keywords for "no login", "dark screen", "boot problem" weren't helpful so far...
[04:36] <josh_> thats why i should always have coffee before turning on this box lol
[04:37] <tbuss> zsz: flash plugin intalled with sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[04:37] <wilson> chris85: /dev/ttyS0 is COM1 /dev/ttyS1 is COM2    etc etc
[04:37] <stefg> GrendelS: what hardware (graphics card) do you have ?
[04:38] <GrendelS> stefg: thanks - I have an ATI Mobility Radeon 700
[04:39] <zsz> tbuss, uninstall the flash plugin and try if FF crashes
[04:39] <stefg> GrendelS: Ewww... i thought that. these are a bit problematic, because ATI hasn't managed to provide good drivers yet
[04:39] <Sponch> hello world !
[04:39] <stefg> !ati | GrendelS:
[04:39] <ubotu> GrendelS:: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:39] <GrendelS> stefg: I thought it's probably a driver problem, but I can't even login so I was stuck with how to change drivers without being in the system.
[04:40] <GrendelS> stefg: oh, ok... so it'S bad news. I'll look through the page, thank you very much
[04:40] <stefg> GrendelS: you could login if you boot to single, but you'll only have a command line. That's a fixable problem, it's just a bit tough for new users
[04:40] <GrendelS> stefg: "developers will not be able or even willing to assist you in resolving your issues. Use at your own risk." sounds promising :-D
[04:40] <ratpoison> can anybody point me to a working mythtv howto?
[04:40] <josh_> hey wilson
[04:41] <josh_> still there? ;)
[04:41] <GrendelS> stefg: I tried booting with apci off, but that didn't help, that was my only attempt using command line so far
[04:41] <chris85> wilson: so inside the device manager, I see the device: "USB-Serial Controller"  How do I see if it is in /dev/ttyS0, /dev/ttyS1, etc?
[04:41] <wilson> yes im here josh
[04:42] <josh_> how would one go about removing a package with the dpkg command?
[04:42] <zsz> ratpoison, http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_MythTV (replace emerge with apt-get install)
[04:42] <wilson> i was talking about standard rs232 ports chris85, i dunno about usb
[04:42] <josh_> i kinda did a half-*** install of nxserver from the freenx website and its botching the nomachine instal
[04:42] <ratpoison> zsz: thnx
[04:42] <stefg> GrendelS: your problem is that the video card isn't properly configured, and these mobilities don't even work with the failsafe 'vesa' driver (thank ATI). so you have to install the Driver from the command line AFAIK. ATI-gurus around ?
[04:42] <chris85> wilson: I think that is why I'm having trouble, it is both usb and serial, yet neither
[04:42] <ipx> The FN-key and the CTRL-key on my laptop is "misplaced" (in my opinion) and i want to technically swap position of these two buttons. Is there any solution on linux?
[04:43] <josh_> lnevermind, ill just use the gui
[04:43] <ratpoison> zsz: and I guess that emerge --sync is apt-get update, right?
[04:43] <wilson> i dunno 'dpkg -i --force-overwrite   .....
[04:43] <zsz> ratpoison, yes
[04:43] <tbuss> zsz: remove flash plugin and vlc plugin, still crashes
[04:43] <Tritonio> hello! i tried to install windows in a small partition. i formated it as fat32 through gparted and then booted from the windows cdrom. after selecting the correct partition windows said that it is corrupt. i had to use the unofficial grub disk to make linux run again and then i also had to rewritte fstab manually because my home partition was mounted at another point.
[04:44] <ratpoison> zsz: thnx
[04:44] <Tritonio> now gparted sees the whole disk as nallocates space.
[04:44] <GrendelS> stefg: I'll try the howto, it seems to be quite well documented
[04:46] <tech0007> hi everyone
[04:46] <stefg> GrendelS: http://www.jaqe.de/2007/05/09/hello-world/ (you'll understand german as i see)
[04:46] <tech0007> which package does 'source' belong to?
[04:46] <noelferreira> how can i see if i have iptables service (firewall) running?
[04:46] <wilson> noelferreia : iptables -L
[04:47] <tbuss> stefg: i removed the vlc and flash plugins. ff still crashes when loading pages (without flash content) It also crashes when I try edit/preferences
[04:47] <wilson> it's not a service that runs though
[04:47] <GrendelS> stefg: thank you very much for your help, I'll be gone reading and trying to install the driver
[04:48] <stefg> GrendelS: see the link i gave you... it's a simple edit
[04:48] <GrendelS> stefg: short and doable! vielen Dank :-)
[04:49] <Tritonio> any ideas why the whole disk seems unallocated?
[04:49] <stefg> tbuss: try firefox -p and make a fresh profile. if it stil crashes you'll get a least some error output
[04:49] <tbuss> stefg: will do
[04:49] <yngone> what is vmware
[04:50] <stefg> !virtualizers | yngone
[04:50] <ubotu> yngone: There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[04:50] <yngone> thanks
[04:50] <yngone> !VMWare
[04:50] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[04:50] <noelferreira> how can i stop the service wilson?
[04:51] <yngone> !wine
[04:51] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[04:51] <tbuss> stefg: bus error (core dumped)
[04:51] <yngone> !AppDB
[04:51] <ubotu> The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[04:51] <stefg> tbuss: oh! that's ugly
[04:51] <Skillet^> iwconfig isn't letting me use "key" or "enc" on my wireless adapter
[04:52] <stefg> tbuss: looks more like some hardware or X problem
[04:52] <Skillet^> rick@rick-desktop:~/wmp11drv$ sudo iwconfig wlan1 enc open
[04:52] <Skillet^> Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) :
[04:52] <Skillet^>     SET failed on device wlan1 ; Invalid argument.
[04:52] <Skillet^> :|
[04:52] <noelferreira> how can i stop iptables service?
[04:52] <tbuss> stefg: okay, it worked previously, could a kernel update be to blame
[04:52] <wilson> iptables -F
[04:53] <stefg> tbuss: yes. what kernel are you running?
[04:53] <wilson> if you want to stop sharing , iptables -t nat -F
[04:53] <josh_> ok wilson, i need your expert help here :P
[04:54] <wilson> argh u also have to change the default policies to accept if they have been changed to deny
[04:54] <yngone> has anyone got full disk encryption with truecrypt on ubuntu?
[04:54] <josh_> when i did the half-*** install of the freenx server, it added the nx user.
[04:54] <yngone> i dnot think u can do it
[04:54] <josh_> when attempting to install fresh, it fails because that user already exists
[04:54] <josh_> should i just deluser nx?
[04:54] <tbuss> stefg: 2.6.20-16-generic
[04:54] <josh_> or do i need to do it thru something else to get rid of that user?
[04:54] <wilson> heh, i guess so
[04:55] <vasuvi> Is there any way to prevent NetworkManager from clobbering resolv.conf every single bootup?
[04:55] <wilson> use the deluser command i guess or just do it thru the gui
[04:56] <stefg> tbuss: yup that's the latest feisty kernel.... hm, i'd search through launchpad for known issues. what graphics card do you have ?
[04:57] <vio> ????
[04:57] <noelferreira> thanks wilson
[04:58] <stefg> tbuss: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libflash/+bug/80949
[04:58] <wilson> i was just about to tell him how to change the default policy , oh well
[04:58] <b0ha> how can i check my system uptime ?
[04:58] <b0ha> or my uptime record
[04:58] <tbuss> stefg: 2.6.20-15-generic also did not work...
[04:58] <tbuss> stefg: i'll check the link, thanks for your help
[04:59] <yngone> !wine
[04:59] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[04:59] <Kronos> hi there again guyz, i have a huge folder with backgrounds of all sorts how can u make ubutu display little thumbnails ... its a bit unpractical since all the images are randomly named and i have no clue what i want just wanted to have a look thru
[04:59] <tbuss> stefg: i know this may be overkill but could a fresh install solve this problem?
[05:00] <stefg> tbuss: i tend to say no (but don't know). it seems that flash is the problem
[05:00] <yngone> For Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn): Add the following repository, deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt feisty main
[05:00] <yngone> ^^ how do i do that
[05:00] <Kvasten> Hi, which FTP server should I run on my fileserver here at home? Im running Feisty server
[05:00] <radioaktivstorm> does anyone know much about coaxing the infamous bcm43xx chipset under ndiswrapper to work with nm-applet consistently? the only way i can connect to my schools networks is a) the manual setup or b) ifdown ifup....
[05:00] <K-41> Hi, when i want to start streamcast server, it can't start, telling me it needs shout.pm. does anybody know where to get this?
[05:00] <stefg> tbuss: did you use any 'helper' script like automatix or so ?
[05:00] <yngone> !repositorys
[05:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repositorys - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:00] <yngone> !repository
[05:00] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:00] <Skyrail> Do I have to restart anything for any edits in the hosts.allow/deny files to work?
[05:01] <tbuss> stefg: I don;t mean to be argumentative but would flash be the cause of ff crashing when I navigate to edit/preferences?
[05:01] <riotkittie> !msgthebot
[05:01] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[05:01] <tbuss> stefg: no
[05:01] <pen> I've downloaded the realplayer10 but how to install?
[05:02] <K-41> hello?
[05:02] <K-41> !Bot
[05:02] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:02] <K-41> the silence...
[05:02] <jrib> !realplayer > pen (read the private message from ubotu)
[05:03] <stefg> tbuss: reading through the bug report it seems that the mere presence of a 'bad' flash plugin makes firefox unstable. Given that epiphany uses gecko, too, it would make sense. But this is just common sense. Usually crashing firefoxes are caused by improperly written gtk themes or overuse of extensions
[05:03] <K-41> when i want to start streamcast server, it can't start, telling me it needs shout.pm. does anybody know where to get this?
[05:03] <PakYaw> hey guys any codecs for 3gp file format ?
[05:05] <tbuss> stefg: ok, well it looks like your right about the hardware or X problem, I've got some reading to do, thanks again for all your help. this is not the first time you have helped me out :)
[05:05] <MicheleZ> hello
[05:06] <stefg> tbuss: np, you're welcome
[05:06] <Madnez> guys
[05:06] <MicheleZ> I have a laptop with 7.04 installed. When I resume the USB ports stop working.
[05:06] <nowshining> changing the ROOT home folder in filesystem - root from others to see and only root, should change ALL files incl. Deskop folder to a locked state right
[05:06] <Madnez> seems the ubuntu gaim has some probs with irc
[05:06] <pramod> hey nowshining.
[05:06] <nowshining> hi
[05:06] <Madnez> some irc mates are saying that i'm talking with fonts
[05:06] <danich> is there a preferred protocol for requesting assistance?
[05:06] <Madnez> anyway to disable those fonts?
[05:07] <danich> okay, guess not
[05:07] <stefg> danich: yes. You ask your question, and wait patiently for an answer
[05:07] <thesaltydog> just upgraded to Gutsy. My /home doesn't mount and I can't boot. I had to boot with 2.6.20 kernel...!
[05:07] <jrib> thesaltydog: gutsy help in #ubuntu+1
[05:07] <stefg> !gutsy | thesaltydog
[05:08] <ubotu> thesaltydog: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[05:08] <thesaltydog> tks
[05:08] <danich> have Ubuntu Fawn installed and running successfully on a dual-boot with WinXP (please, no catcalls)
[05:08] <jrib> !enter | danich
[05:08] <ubotu> danich: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:08] <yngone> wine TrueCrypt Setup.exe
[05:08] <yngone> wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\TrueCrypt.exe": Module not found
[05:09] <pramod> What do you need the truecrypt windows version for?
[05:09] <pramod> Isn't there a Linux version?
[05:09] <danich> or I did... the drive WinXP is on messed up the table; in trying to fix it did WinXP's repair console and redid the MBR. That didn't help but did blow away Ubuntu's boot. Currently running on the install CD. How do I fix the boot to get into the existing ubuntu install?
[05:09] <GMWeezel> what's the general purpose for the /var/ folder?
[05:10] <stefg> !grub | danich
[05:10] <ubotu> danich: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:10] <eltese> Hi!
[05:10] <eltese> I installed Feisty Fawn yesterday
[05:10] <Chamunks> Does anyone know of a good solution to extend the distance a usb cable can go without signal loss?
[05:11] <PakYaw> guys any codecs i can intall so i can play 3gp file format
[05:11] <GnimshUMN> google it
[05:11] <eltese> And when I tried to install my nvidia drivers from : Administration -> Restricted Drivers it rebooted and then I cant get X to work :(
[05:11] <eltese> Any ideas as to what to do?
[05:11] <stefg> Chamunks: there are pieces of hardware (buffer-amps) which can do that. But please ask in #hardware
[05:11] <wilson> well it's /var so i assume it basically means that the files there change. it's usually where log files are kept, or cache files, it's also where apache defaults it's homepage to etc
[05:11] <andre> time in windows gets messed up in what file can i change that agian?
[05:11] <frojnd> hello there
[05:11] <Chamunks> stefg, thanks
[05:11] <Madnez> Chamuks, you need a signal booster.  I suggest use some other method besides USB.
[05:12] <frojnd> Where is a LIST of supported wireless cards for network for ubuntu? I really need this, so I can buy a working card for my PC.
[05:12] <Madnez> Chamunks
[05:12] <stefg> !hardware | frojnd
[05:12] <ubotu> frojnd: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[05:12] <Madnez> I love ubuntu, hate its limited software ability
[05:13] <Madnez> specially the part on games....
[05:13] <PakYaw> guys any codecs that can play 3gp file format
[05:13] <Madnez> any one knows of any good 3d graphic program for ubuntu?
[05:13] <newsense07> i wanna dual boot vista and kubuntu, which os should i install first, any other information i should know?
[05:13] <rene_> get an Orinoco gold card
[05:13] <Madnez> install windows first and foremost
[05:13] <Chamunks> Madnez, well its for a usb webcam video surveliance system
[05:13] <redico> hi all: i want to  $ ln   /media/directory  /home/directory
[05:13] <redico> help
[05:13] <Shapeshifter> how can I "save" a vnc password somewhere so I don't have to enter it everytime I connect? I'm using xvnc4viewer. It is impossible to include the password into a terminal command.
[05:14] <eltese> anyone who can help me with nvidia drivers and X ? =)
[05:14] <zsz> Madnez, blender?
[05:14] <Madnez> newsense07, i'm having trouble with xp after installing ubuntu. not sure if its ubuntu's fault yet but gonna null drive and test later
[05:14] <stefg> eltese: which ubuntu version, which card ?
[05:14] <newsense07> Madnez: will grub add vista to the boot record ?
[05:14] <Madnez> zsz, blender? huh?
[05:15] <Madnez> newsense07, yes.  has vista and it recognized it easily as well as the old xp if you didnt overwrite it.
[05:15] <zsz> Madnez, any one knows of any good 3d graphic program for ubuntu? --> blender
[05:15] <Shapeshifter> Madnez: http://www.blender.org/ is amazing
[05:15] <eltese> stefg: Its Feisty Fawn and Geforce 8800 GTS
[05:15] <newsense07> Madnez: one more ? please, can i resize my vista partition using the kubuntu cd or is that not recommended ?
[05:15] <Madnez> zsz, ahh never heard of it.  Blender.... only played with 3D max and an annoying engineering software called solidworks
[05:15] <tech0007> how do i enable 3d accel?
[05:15] <redico> how to do a parent-directory link ?
[05:16] <stefg> eltese: didn't the restriczed manager pop up and ask if you want to install the 'restricted' driver?
[05:16] <Madnez> newsense07, i suggest you use vista to setup your NTFS partitions first then use ubuntu
[05:16] <eltese> stefg: Yeah it did. And I pressed "yes".. Then it said I needed to reboot and when i did that X wouldnt start for me :(
[05:17] <Madnez> newsense07, ubuntu has less probs reading NTFS, FAT32, etc compared to windows
[05:17] <stefg> eltese: i see...
[05:17] <danich> okay, followed the grub instructions and it seemed to complete successfully. However, when I used the instructions to view the menu.lst I got a blank file. When I look at the partition I know is the boot drive, I see no menu.lst.
[05:17] <newsense07> Madnez: so im better off reinstalling vista and save space space for kubuntu / and swap partitions ?
[05:17] <jrib> redico: what do you mean?
[05:18] <Madnez> wow blender looks sweet
[05:18] <zsz> Madnez, http://www.tdt3d.be/articles_viewer.php?art_id=99
[05:18] <Gnimsh> newsense07, you're better off installing XP and getting rid of vista
[05:18] <danich> I work mostly in a Windows world and gotta tell ya, Vista blows chunks.
[05:18] <newsense07> Gnimsh: i wish i woulda knew that a couple hundred bucks ago lol
[05:19] <Madnez> newsense07, yes.  Just imagine windows as a spoiled only child of a family while ubuntu is the friendly happy in any situation program
[05:19] <Gnimsh> this laptop came with vista
[05:19] <rjm1982> danich, why?  To me, vista is probably the best thing MS has done since win 2k
[05:19] <Gnimsh> I installed ubuntu alongside vista cuz I didn't want to use vista
[05:19] <Madnez> newsense07, whatever you want to do with com, run with vista first then ubuntu
[05:19] <danich> Vista has lots of compatibility problems, particularly with drivers. Gamers cuss it terribly
[05:19] <stefg> eltese: have you reverted the change and are you able to log into X now?
[05:19] <Gnimsh> problem: skype isn't as good in ubuntu as it is in windows, and my webcam doewsn't work in ubuntu
[05:19] <newsense07> i dont run windows personally but i love cs:source and i have to play it or else i would have no need for ms brand os's
[05:20] <rjm1982> danich, if you use nVidia, yeah, but blaming vista for that is like blaming linux for the ati problems
[05:20] <Madnez> newsense07, i hear you man.  I too have some old stuff which is a pain to install without windows.  get it installed then use ubuntu wine to run them. worked for me on some progs
[05:20] <redico> jrib:  sda1 is mounted in  /media/sda1.
[05:20] <redico> now i dont want to have so many files in my home!
[05:20] <redico> therefore i want to " cp -r * /home/user/.wine/*  /media/sda1/wine"
[05:20] <redico> and then i want to have a LINK in home/user/wine instead!
[05:20] <eltese> Hmms right now Im not even in Ubuntu as Im not very good with the text only mode ;p So nope I havent reverted it...Dont know exactly how to do it to be honest =)
[05:20] <eltese> Do I need to manually configure X ?
[05:20] <rabiddachshund> I need a better network manager. I've tried Network manager and Wifi-radar but neither work through the walls in my house. Any suggestions?
[05:20] <danich> I'm aware of that. But it's not about faults, it's about the OS not allowing the user to use it the way it is meant to be used.
[05:20] <rjm1982> !enter | redico
[05:20] <Gnimsh> I need to plug in my mous
[05:20] <ubotu> redico: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:20] <Gnimsh> e
[05:21] <Gnimsh> this mousepad makes me feel like I'm wearing down my fingertips..
[05:21] <Gnimsh> .
[05:21] <GrendelS> stefg: It worked! I'm using irc via the ubuntu/gaim install! WOW!!!
[05:21] <redico> OKAY
[05:21] <stefg> eltese: your problem is that the restricted mamager used an older version. you need to install the package nvidia-glx-new
[05:21] <danich> ubotu: i followed the grub instructions but when I try to view menu.lst the file is empty. I don't see the file on the root of the boot drive.
[05:21] <eltese> stefg : So if I reboot now and use that command it should work?
[05:21] <stefg> GrendelS: good... so you have earned your first linux karma: getting Ati to work
[05:22] <GrendelS> :-D
[05:22] <jrib> redico: make a symlink:  ln -s TARGET NAME
[05:22] <PakYaw> ei im still getting same problem guys.. i cant play a 3gp file in firefox.. any solutions?
[05:22] <redico> jrib ... but then  it is just symbolic ?
[05:22] <jrib> redico: so?
[05:22] <rjm1982> stefg, thats about to go away thankfully, cant wait till the end of oct. updates from ati
[05:22] <Madnez> GrendelS, you will soon learn that you can play irc, msn and yahoo at the same time
[05:22] <ph> hello everyone
[05:22] <redico> mmm   maybe i should  read the man again ^^
[05:22] <redico> thx anyway
[05:23] <ManuelJ> which is better evolution or thunderbird
[05:23] <ManuelJ> *?
[05:23] <stefg> eltese: you should boot to conole (recovery mode) and 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new' that should remove the old driver and get you a new one. then you 'telinit 2' to get from recovery to graphical mode
[05:23] <rabiddachshund> Can someone suggest a really good wireless network manager?
[05:23] <GrendelS> Madnez: I'm migrating from Windows, Pidgin under M$hit served me well :-)
[05:23] <jrib> redico: what don't you understand?
[05:23] <ph> can somebody explain to me what "Long Term Support" practically means?What's the difference from the other distros?What does "support" refer to?
[05:23] <Madnez> sigh... no one else has a better solution to nulling my 320 gig drive so i can install winxp?
[05:23] <eltese> stefg: Okay. Thanks alot :) Gonna see if it works =)
[05:24] <jrib> !lts | ph
[05:24] <ubotu> ph: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[05:24] <danich> madnez: what do you mean nulling?
[05:24] <W_McL> ph, that means that patches are provided for a longer period
[05:24] <Shapeshifter> Madnez: what was ur probem with your drive?
[05:24] <Madnez> GrendelS, yeah i can remember the feeling of like being in heaven after trying ubuntu
[05:24] <redico> jrib : i am just woundering : if  commands on targets which are ln -s links  "are full responsible"
[05:24] <Madnez> its not the drive, its xp.  cant finish installing.  keeps dying with BSoD 7e during the winxp loading screen
[05:24] <ph> !support
[05:24] <ubotu> the official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org
[05:25] <Matic`Makovec> Hey there. Is there any program to draw rgaphs (is that a proper expression?)  for Linux?
[05:25] <Madnez> ubuntu has not a prob but xp keeps crashing.... really screwing me up specially when i got this new drive!
[05:25] <Matic`Makovec> Or is maybe OO2 able to do that somehow?
[05:25] <shannon_> Hi, running gutsy beta, black screen of death when logging into gnome with compiz enabled. Can't login to disable compiz. Is there a workaround?
[05:25] <jrib> redico: I don't know what you mean by that, but it will do what you asked
[05:25] <Shapeshifter> Madnez: did you install xp with that cd before?
[05:25] <sw_> Matic`Makovec, check out rrdtool
[05:25] <Matic`Makovec> sw_, I shall, thank you!
[05:26] <Madnez> yes, had no prob with my 80 gig sata
[05:26] <yngone> how do u tell
[05:26] <yngone> where ur swap
[05:26] <yngone> is
[05:26] <Madnez> new 320 gig sata doesnt work well
[05:26] <juro> hi, I am running ubuntu in a virtual server and want to back up my home dir every week to a external harddrive. what would the best way be to do this?
[05:26] <redico> jrib - i will enjoy testing it :)  thanks and see you
[05:26] <yngone> whats path for swap?
[05:26] <Madnez> someone said i should null the drive because i installed ubuntu first then xp
[05:26] <Shapeshifter> Madnez: did you install xp on that current drive before or just on the old one?
[05:26] <stefg> !backup | juro
[05:26] <ubotu> juro: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[05:26] <PakYaw> anybody have a solution how to be able to play 3gp file in firefox coz it keeps asking me for a plugin
[05:26] <danich> madnez: try this - http://aumha.org/win5/kbestop.htm
[05:26] <ph> packages on non-LTS distros keep on being upgraded too, right?But the maintainer just doesnt provide more "debian" patches to the sources?
[05:26] <susilo> hallo ???????????????????????
[05:27] <stefg> !hi | susilo
[05:27] <ubotu> susilo: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[05:27] <Madnez> i'm using new drive
[05:27] <wii> i have a webcam wb-5400 trust how do i install it on linux?
[05:27] <juro> stefg, ubotu, thanx. I'll look into that
[05:27] <wii> wiii
[05:27] <sw_> yngone, cat /proc/swaps
[05:27] <Madnez> cant get the old drive to run because i have only 1 sata power source on my com. gonna get an adapter later
[05:27] <stefg> !webcam | wii
[05:27] <ubotu> wii: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[05:27] <sacamano> hey is there any command i can use to make my computer shut down in an hour if i leave?
[05:27] <Shapeshifter> Madnez: is the driver properly formatted?
[05:27] <stefg> sacamano: man at
[05:27] <Madnez> should be
[05:27] <sw_> sacamano, man at
[05:28] <Madnez> used the damn xp formatter :)
[05:28] <redico> jrib :  works ...  i thought i can not remove files though a ln -s  link^^
[05:28] <orduek> hello
[05:28] <Madnez> cleaned everything to new blank then repartitioned it
[05:28] <jrib> sacamano: man shutdown     no need for 'at'
[05:28] <Shapeshifter> Madnez: did u install the sata driver upon installing xp?
[05:28] <orduek> can anyone tell me why the LogMeIn site is unavailable through linux?
[05:28] <Madnez> there is no sata drive
[05:28] <Madnez> driver... as far as i know :D
[05:29] <Madnez> Shapeshifter, could be the prob as i was assuming before....
[05:29] <Shapeshifter> Madnez: Try using a SP2 XP installation CD.
[05:29] <sacamano> thanks!
[05:29] <Madnez> Shapeshifter, but where you get that? when you buy the HD, there is no driver given with it!  have that and using XP SP2
[05:29] <doctormo> I need help getting ndiswrapper working with my US Robitics WiFi card (ACX100/USR2216) ndis doesn't seem to make any sense in any logical way and I am incompatible with it's logic.
[05:29] <Matic`Makovec> sw_, is this rrdtool GUI as well?
[05:29] <danich> if you don't have a WinXP w/SP2 install CD, you'll have to burn one and slipstream the SP into it
[05:29] <Paul_UK> hey, anyone know some cheap vps providers?
[05:30] <Madnez> Shapeshifter, dont know why it keeps dying when loading.  I'm assuming some hardware conflict since safe works
[05:30] <Shapeshifter> Madnez: there is no driver for the hard driver but for your sata controller
[05:30] <sw_> Matic`Makovec, i don't think so.. that's a set of CLI tools
[05:30] <vasuvi> Is there any way to prevent NetworkManager from clobbering resolv.conf every single bootup?
[05:30] <Shapeshifter> Madnez: mhhh
[05:30] <danich> that may be it, though. SATA drives didn't exist when XP first shipped, so it may be confused on how to deal with it
[05:30] <Matic`Makovec> Ah
[05:30] <Matic`Makovec> Yeah, I saw that one too
[05:30] <Shapeshifter> Madnez: well whats the 0x code?
[05:30] <Madnez> Shapeshifter, i have my motherboard drivers but cant install
[05:30] <jimmacdonald> question about the server edition. does it not boot to a GUI?
[05:30] <stefg> vasuvi: yup : sudo apt-get remove --purge network-manager :-)
[05:31] <Madnez> Shapeshifter, fails because it reboots and crashes
[05:31] <danich> the 7e code has several sub-codes as well
[05:31] <pheorehs> hi
[05:31] <Zmodem> Tell me if this makes sense, cause now I'm confused: Okay, got 4 hard drives, I install ubuntu 7.10 on my SATA1 drive, but it puts the GRUB boot load on hd0; now, whenever I try to boot to the drive that contains my ubuntu install, it keeps giving me Error 17. I'm not sure what the hell to do now...accept for removing all HDs and reinstalling ubuntu with just the 1 loaded...
[05:31] <Shapeshifter> Madnez: you _could_ use nLite to put the sata drivers onto the xp disc
[05:31] <danich> does the blue screen not stay up long enough to read the full error?
[05:31] <Madnez> Shapeshifter, 7e 0xF150184
[05:31] <rjm1982> installing windows on a SATA drive is hell, unless you have a floppy drive
[05:31] <vasuvi> stefg: lol but then I'd have to get DHCP running some other way and figure out how to get *it* not to clobber resolv.conf
[05:31] <Madnez> 0xF79F8D44, 0xF79F8A40
[05:31] <pheorehs> has anyone ever heard of a command called "verify" ?  I'm trying to run an app from  http://www.netdimes.org/,  but the script calls a command called "verify" which I can't seem to find..  any ideas ?
[05:31] <Madnez> nlite?
[05:31] <orduek> does anyone knows for what reason i can't reach a wev site like LogMeIn only though ubutnu? with windows its not a problem
[05:32] <stefg> vasuvi: make /etc/resolv.conf readonly ?
[05:32] <Madnez> could it also be my sata connection?
[05:32] <vasuvi> stefg: that's not a bad idea; I'll try it, thanks
[05:32] <Madnez> Shapeshifter, i've noticed on the hardware config that there are host sata and slave
[05:32] <Zmodem> I've never had issues with installing windows on a SATA drive...
[05:32] <howlingmadhowie> vasuvi: you can set which information should be called up from a dhcp server
[05:32] <Zmodem> I am, however, having issues with installing ubuntu 7.10 on a sata drive
[05:32] <Shapeshifter> Madnez: just the first one. google for nlite, it's a great tool to remove junk from the xp installation and preconfigure it befor installing. anyway, what ist the first 0x code, it should have 8 digits after the 0x
[05:32] <vasuvi> howlingmadhowie: How do I do that?
[05:32] <Madnez> Shapeshifter, 0x0000005
[05:33] <Shapeshifter> and which .sys file or something?
[05:33] <howlingmadhowie> vasuvi: i've just checked: /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[05:33] <Madnez> Shapeshifter, whole line is 0x0000005, 0xF150184, 0xF79F8D44, 0xF79F8A40
[05:34] <Shapeshifter> Madnez: and 7E u said?
[05:34] <r00tintheb0x> Whats up guys!
[05:34] <Madnez> yeah
[05:34] <howlingmadhowie> Madnez: why is the second number 28bit?
[05:34] <Madnez> Shapeshifter, 0x0000007e
[05:34] <vasuvi> howlingmadhowie: thanks, I'll edit that file and see if I see anything that might do it
[05:34] <howlingmadhowie> vasuvi: there's a section marked "request"
[05:34] <Madnez> howlingmadhowie, probably wrote it down wrongly but should be right on the rest
[05:35] <ali90> bonjours, est-ce qu'il ya des franais ici?
[05:35] <Madnez> couldnt find any ref on any number cept 7e and 05
[05:35] <void^> !fr | ali90
[05:35] <vasuvi> howlingmadhowie: yup, so what I want to do is remove the domain-name-servers portion
[05:35] <ubotu> ali90: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:35] <ali90> ok, merci
[05:35] <vasuvi> howlingmadhowie: looks like just the ticket, thanks :)
[05:35] <ali90> thank you ubotu
[05:35] <yngone> When you came to the disk partitioning step, you need to create four partitions:
[05:35] <yngone>     *
[05:35] <yngone>       partition /boot, 100 Mb - /hda1
[05:35] <yngone>     *
[05:35] <yngone>       partition temporary root (future cswap), 2 Gb - /hda2
[05:35] <yngone>     *
[05:35] <yngone>       not used partition (future croot partiton), 10 Gb - /hda3
[05:35] <yngone>     *
[05:35] <yngone>       not used partition (future chome partiton), all remained size - /hda4
[05:36] <PovAddict> agh paste
[05:36] <logan> When I click shutdown, ubuntu unloads but after its done it, it goes back to my bios, grub loads, and ubuntu comes back on.
[05:36] <Shapeshifter> Madnez: there's no mentioning of a file. like asdf.sys or something in the upper part of the bsod?
[05:36] <logan> I don't have this problem on any of my other ubuntu installs
[05:36] <stefg> !paste | yngone
[05:36] <ubotu> yngone: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:36] <yngone> so i make a /boot 100mb     a   /   2gbs      a   not named partion   10gb and   the rest dont label?
[05:36] <rjm1982> wow, apparently blender doesnt get along with compiz-fusion / xgl
[05:36] <yngone> can anyone help me with those partitions
[05:36] <Madnez> Shapeshifter, nope.  Gave me standard, virus, lack of space and hardware conflict page
[05:37] <orduek> can anyone help me with the site access?
[05:37] <yngone> thats how its telling me to setup ubuntu partitions
[05:37] <stefg> yngone: 2GB is too small for / (includin /usr)
[05:37] <logan> I use the nvidia drivers, and now the text on the login screen is too small to read, how do I adjust it? It is fine once I'm logged in.
[05:37] <Shapeshifter> Madnez: Anyway, I think it should work if you download the specific driver for you sata controller and slipstream it with nlite to your install cd
[05:37] <yngone> stefg / this is a full disk encryption tutorial
[05:37] <Madnez> Shapeshifter, lack of space impossible. first time set 100gig, 2nd 60, 3rd 40 gig.  Virus for new com and using linux? haha?  Hardware a possibility.
[05:37] <yngone> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto8
[05:37] <aguitel> how i enable a local network?
[05:38] <Madnez> Shapeshifter, how i run nlite when win cant even load?  Will it work even when booting up?
[05:38] <Shapeshifter> Madnez: on another pc
[05:38] <stefg> !pm | yngone
[05:38] <ubotu> yngone: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[05:38] <Madnez> Shapeshifter, LOL!!!! Thats a bitch....
[05:39] <aguitel> !network
[05:39] <yngone> stefg can i pm u please
[05:39] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:39] <yngone> i dont want to flood channel
[05:39] <Shapeshifter> Madnez: :P
[05:39] <PovAddict> yngone: use a pastebin
[05:39] <stefg> yngone: sorry, no pm
[05:39] <aguitel> !local network
[05:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about local network - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:39] <Madnez> Shapeshifter, i think its better getting a sata power adapter for the standard IDE drive and using back my old 80 gig which i know WORKS :)
[05:39] <jimmacdonald> Is the server edition headless (I.E. no gui)?
[05:39] <Shapeshifter> Madnez: that would be a solution ;) have a look at this http://forums.windrivers.com/printthread.php?t=61240
[05:39] <Madnez> Shapeshifter, running around and poking with my 320 gig may screw it up :)
[05:39] <PovAddict> jimmacdonald: well you can always install it later if you want to
[05:39] <CarstenF> I have just installed 7.04 desktop , but i can only get 1024x768 in resolution . my LCD-Screen & Geforce did run 1280x1024 on CentOs ...
[05:39] <logan> I use the nvidia drivers, and now the text on the login screen is too small to read, how do I adjust it? It is fine once I'm logged in.
[05:40] <jimmacdonald> CarstenF: so it does come with no gui initially?
[05:40] <yngone> IN a tutorial it calls for me to make partition  /boot, 100 Mb - /hda1       partition temporary root (future cswap), 2 Gb - /hda2      not used partition (future croot partiton), 10 Gb - /hda3           not used partition (future chome partiton), all remained size - /hda4
[05:40] <yngone> how would i do this
[05:40] <Shapeshifter> Madnez: in that case there the video card was responsible for the bsod. weird
[05:41] <stefg> yngone: the question you should ask yourself is: why would you want a fully encrypted filesystem? encryption makes things slow, and there's not much secret about ubuntus system files. Usually it's fine having only /home encrypted
[05:41] <orduek> does anyone knows why i cant access logmein site through ubuntu?
[05:41] <CarstenF> jim: The 7.04 installs gnome fine - but i can't select 1280x1024 in the resolutions app
[05:41] <Madnez> Shapeshifter, lolz... weird.  new 965 mother with 7300gs GeF
[05:41] <gech> Whats the cause of this: http://pastebin.ca/728992, I can't get my eth0 to work
[05:41] <Madnez> Shapeshifter, had no prob with installing first time around
[05:42] <yngone> stefg ;   im trying to get / and swap encrypted
[05:42] <yngone> and i cant seem to find a way to do it
[05:42] <Madnez> Shapeshifter, only hardware change was 320 gig and probably sata connection? tho doubt changing connection point will affect it
[05:42] <yngone> i was attempting to use truecrypt
[05:42] <stefg> yngone: having / encrypted is nonesense imho. swap needs to be, and /home needs to be, but not /
[05:42] <logan> When I click shutdown, ubuntu unloads but after its done it, it goes back to my bios, grub loads, and ubuntu comes back on.
[05:43] <yngone> there is nothing sensitive in /?
[05:43] <Madnez> Shapeshifter, cant be my graphic card is dead
[05:43] <yngone> no logs no cache?
[05:43] <jimmacdonald> CarstenF: That's not what I am asking... I have a friend that installed 6.06 server edition and it didn't boot to a GUI. what I am asking is if this is a normal intended operating mode (i.e. the server edition isn't loaded with a GUI) or if there is a problem I need to help him solve. I haven't done anything with the SE yet.
[05:43] <yngone> im new to linux so i dont really know
[05:43] <Madnez> Shapeshifter, i can run desktop effects with np, meaning its still oging
[05:44] <stefg> yngone: if you're really paranoid you shift /var/log to the /home partition with a symlink. but, hey, do work for the CIA?
[05:44] <logan> Can somebody help me please? I have two problems which I've asked about multiple times with no responses
[05:44] <shannon_> Anyone experiencing this problem with compiz? You login, you get just a blank (black) screen and mouse pointer, nothing loads. User accounts with compiz disabled work fine, but I can't login to the compiz accounts to turn compiz off. Started happening after I downloaded upgrades today. Running Gutsy beta. Can't seem to find the bug in launchpad.
[05:45] <jacik> join #zenwalk
[05:45] <yngone> stefg    have u ever excrpyted ur /home and /swap with truecrypt?
[05:45] <Shapeshifter> Madnez: yes, I guess it is best if you use your old drive. anyway it could work with nlite and the driver. did you say you can boot in safe mode?
[05:45] <Madnez> yeah safe works, meaning some hardware prob
[05:45] <jif> logan: what happens if you do sudo shutdown -h now
[05:45] <stefg> yngone: no, i live in a country where i don't have to (yet!)
[05:46] <Madnez> Shapeshifter, i could try disabling my graphic but dont think that'd be it.  still thinking sata
[05:46] <Madnez> Shapeshifter, maybe i need raid on?
[05:46] <danich> logan: it's your BIOS. I've had this with Windows systems as well. check the acpi section. IIRC, I fixed it by setting the Power Off option to "Off" instead of "Last State"
[05:46] <rpj8> Hey guys, when I hold down a key on my keyboard it doesn't seem to wan to enter the value multiple times. IE when I hold down backspace it only backspaces once.
[05:46] <CarstenF> I have just installed 7.04 desktop , but i can only get 1024x768 in resolution . my LCD-Screen & Geforce did run 1280x1024 on CentOs ...
[05:46] <shannon_> Compiz seems pretty broken for a release that's coming out in 11 days, doesn't it? Controversial
[05:47] <vasuvi> shannon_: I haven't tried it yet, but if it's a Gutsy problem, you might have more luck on #ubuntu+1
[05:47] <Shapeshifter> Madnez: if safe mode works you can use nlite from there
[05:47] <rpj8> CarstenF: Open up "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" and enter in the display size in the appropriate area
[05:47] <shannon_> vasuvi, ok I'll try there
[05:47] <Shapeshifter> Madnez: I think a driver is missing.
[05:47] <danich> gonna see if my grub work worked. with me luck!
[05:47] <Madnez> Shapeshifter, me too but not sure which one and how i can install it without it resetting to bsod
[05:47] <Ronin[] > hi - i want to install blender, or at least, run extracted blender files, but running it from console tells me that it is not installed, can be with apt-get
[05:48] <logan> sudo shutdown -h did the same thing
[05:48] <Ronin[] > but there is only Blender V2.43 in the repository, i want to use 2.45 ...
[05:48] <logan> After shut down, it went to my bios screen then grub loaded
[05:48] <logan> it was like pressing restart instead of shutdown
[05:48] <logan> I didnt have this problem on this computer running windows
[05:48] <Shapeshifter> Madnez: do you know the model of your sata controller?
[05:49] <Shapeshifter> Madnez: or at least your mainboard, exact model type. usually the sata controller (often called raid controller) shows up just after the bios and before the xp loading screen.
[05:50] <Madnez> Shapeshifter, only thing i can remember its an intel 965 motherboard
[05:50] <Madnez> Shapeshifter, i'll google stats
[05:51] <lousygarua> what IRC channel you use? i'm tired of xchat
[05:51] <logan> konversation
[05:51] <flokuehn> lousygarua: irssi
[05:51] <flokuehn> lousygarua: is very nice
[05:51] <Madnez> Shapeshifter, http://www.intel.com/design/shared/acrobat_redirect.htm
[05:52] <lousygarua> flokuehn, will check it out, thx
[05:52] <Madnez> Shapeshifter, OOPS!!   http://www.intel.com/design/mobile/specupdt/316274.htm
[05:52] <logan> Can someone help me with my shutdown problem? My computer restarts instead of shutdowns.
[05:52] <Madnez> Shapeshifter, thats the pdf data file
[05:52] <stefg> logan: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/43961
[05:52] <Madnez> Shapeshifter, well one of them is the page
[05:53] <Shapeshifter> Madnez: don't you know the manufacturer of your mainboard and its model nr.?
[05:53] <stefg> logan: how old is that box? does it use acpi or apm ?
[05:53] <Ronin[] > does ubuntu check repositories, when i enter a command which is not recognized ?
[05:53] <FCruz> hello
[05:54] <danich> The grub commands worked; back in previously installed Ubuntu. Now... where the heck is my partition manager?
[05:54] <logan> so there is no fix for my problem?
[05:54] <Madnez> Shapeshifter, its the intel desktop board DP965LT
[05:54] <logan> Ive never seen the Will no halt thing though
[05:54] <logan> so I dont know if I have the same problem these people do, I dont have a sony laptop either.
[05:55] <adedov> hi
[05:55] <olmo> i just installed (and update/upgraded) ubuntu 7.04 on my ACER Aspire 5310 laptop. I managed to get wifi working, but iam stuck at setting up the sound (currently, there's no sound anywhere) i found a big guide on the forums but it didn't seem to work for me
[05:55] <danich> logan: mentioned it before, maybe you missed it... check the BIOS ACPI setting for behavior after power failure. Set it to "Off"
[05:55] <logan> ok thanks
[05:55] <vsayikiran> please help
[05:55] <stefg> logan: there are fixes, but you need to tell about your hardware.
[05:55] <danich> where is the Gnome Partition Editor?
[05:55] <danich> or any partition editor for that matter than can handle FAT32 and NTFS
[05:55] <logan> I'm going to go try the BIOS ACPI setting thing
[05:56] <Shapeshifter> Madnez: Ok, I asked because many boards have an additional sata controller which is not included in the chipset. so you need the chipset drivers for the 965 chipset, and in there there's a driver for the chipsets sata functions
[05:56] <Madnez> Shapeshifter, anyway found this storage manager
[05:56] <carlosV2> one question. Ubuntu 7.10 will be launched for pocket PC?
[05:56] <olmo> does anyone know what i should do to get sound working ? it is an intel 82801G mobo i think
[05:56] <vsayikiran> i just installed sun-java6 and azureus and evrything was fine, now it is showing some errors
[05:56] <Madnez> Shapeshifter, yeah found it. not sure if it'd work. says works for sata 5/10 or something
[05:56] <princess^> hi
[05:57] <danich> have dual monitors with nVidia 7600GT. How to get second monitor to light up and be usable?
[05:57] <adedov> I have an Ubuntu on Acer laptop. It has default resolution 1280x1024. I want comfortable way to switch it to 1024x768 without restarting session. But it (Resolution Switcher) does not work. I have both resolution in xorg.conf file.
[05:57] <carlosV2> one question. Ubuntu 7.10 will be launched for pocket PC? <- somebody knows?
[05:57] <adedov> danish: google TwinMode
[05:57] <Shapeshifter> Madnez: yes, the storage manager apparently is what you need. you might try to install it in safe mode
[05:57] <danich> TwinMode: gotcha.... how?
[05:57] <vsayikiran> when i run azureus there is some error
[05:58] <stefg> vsayikiran: the packaged azureus in universe is broken beyond repair. Use the sourceforge d/l instaed
[05:58] <carlosV2> bye
[05:58] <flokuehn> can anybody give men idea howto transfer an file from an dedicated server to my client machine without using ftp?
[05:58] <adedov> danish: you need enable TwinMode in xorg.conf with line (I might wrong) 'Option "TwinMode" "True"'
[05:58] <adedov> danich: in device section
[05:58] <jds2001> flokuehn: sftp
[05:59] <stefg> flokuehn: sshfs , scp
[05:59] <Madnez> Shapeshifter, hehe will try it after backing up some data first ;)
[05:59] <vsayikiran> stefg: do i have to download the .deb package form soureforgwe website
[05:59] <danich> oy... I'm a virgin here. one spoonful at a time please :)
[05:59] <flokuehn> stefg: thank you
[05:59] <Madnez> Shapeshifter, crossing fingers and hoping it'd work
[05:59] <flokuehn> jds2001: thanke you too
[05:59] <danich> a link to instructions is more than welcome
[05:59] <Shapeshifter> Madnez: good luck
[05:59] <Madnez> danich,  virgin? oooh... lets throw you into a vat of data stream!
[05:59] <Madnez> Shapeshifter, thanks
[06:00] <danich> okay, let's start slow. xorg.conf. I assume this is a file that needs to be edited. Okay... where is it and what's the editor to use?
[06:00] <adedov> danish: wait a minute
[06:00] <danich> cool.. ty
[06:01] <eltese> Hello... I tried to install nvidia drivers through System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers and then X failed. Then I tried to run this command : sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new... This however didnt work either.. It said that it was a mismatching kernel and X module
[06:01] <jimmacdonald> Ok so no one knows if the server edition comes with a GUI or not?
[06:01] <danich> overall I like this very much but I can't get to my hotmail. I'm guessing firefox doesn't support whatever stuff hotmail is runing? ActiveX?
[06:01] <riotkittie> jimmacdonald: no, it doesnt. you can apt-get install it, thou
[06:02] <Ronin[] > anyone can help me, i want to install blender from download, but somehow the command "blender" is linked to the repository
[06:02] <riotkittie> though*
[06:02] <kbrosnan> danich: firefox should be able to load hotmail
[06:02] <cjburchfield> hello, all
[06:03] <vsayikiran> stefg: do i have to download .deb package from website for downling azureus
[06:03] <cjburchfield> anyone available to ask a question?
[06:03] <kbrosnan> !ask
[06:03] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:03] <cjburchfield> ok.
[06:03] <jimmacdonald> riotkittie: Thank you... that was an incredibly difficult answer to get to such a simple question.
[06:04] <Shapeshifter> Does ubotu have a wife?
[06:04] <danich> er... ubotu is a bot
[06:04] <cjburchfield> i booted from the ubuntu 7.04 cd, booted just fine, but when it went to load, i get 'sda' errors, and it won't go farther than that.
[06:04] <Shapeshifter> i know ^^
[06:04] <Dr_willis> a Fembot with a Penchant for Evil. :)
[06:04] <eltese> stefg: it didnt work with nvidia-glx-new
[06:04] <cjburchfield> i try to boot a slackware CD, it won't book at all.
[06:04] <Shapeshifter> lol
[06:04] <cjburchfield> any reasons why?
[06:04] <Madnez> shoot
[06:04] <riotkittie> jimmacdonald: was it really? :o  i'd have answered sooner if i'd been paying attention to this channel
[06:04] <Madnez> Shapeshifter, how to enable access to a partitioned drive again?
[06:05] <Madnez> Shapeshifter, change permission to access and add files. need to send files to win drive since cant access internet
[06:05] <sidewalk> hello, when will 7.10 be rlsed?
[06:05] <stefg> eltese: i saw it.... and i know what the problem is, but i'm stunned that the nvidia-glx-new install didn't do that automagically
[06:05] <riotkittie> cjburchfield: sda errors? can you be more specific as to what those errors say
[06:05] <riotkittie> sidewalk: 18th, or thereabouts
[06:05] <adedov> danich: http://www.ublug.org/ubuntu/twinview/twinview-howto-breezy.html
[06:05] <yvonne_> hay
[06:05] <jimmacdonald> riotkittie: well it's not mentioned anywhere in the online documentation that I could find and  nobody here would answer the question yeah or ney...
[06:06] <sidewalk> riotkittie: thanks
[06:06] <cjburchfield> unable to mount sda, and then a bunch of stuff i don't understand.
[06:06] <_0xf> so vmware would allow me to run the windows partition on my box while on the ubuntu partition?
[06:06] <yvonne_> how do you doo???
[06:06] <_0xf> so vmware would allow me to run the windows partition on my box while on the ubuntu partition?
[06:06] <biopod> hi everyone, is there someone who can help me out with installing ati radeon x1600 on feisty before i totaly give up and go to buy nvidia?
[06:06] <eltese> stefg: Ok... Because it said something about generic-header being hold back?
[06:06] <yvonne_> where are you come from???
[06:06] <Shapeshifter> Madnez: it's a ntfs drive and you're under linux atm?
[06:06] <vsayikiran> i have problem with azureus and sun-java6
[06:06] <stefg> eltese: you are on feisty, not gutsy, are you?
[06:07] <Shapeshifter> Madnez: god I have no idea I'm a noob myself :P
[06:07] <eltese> stefg: Yep, Im on feisty
[06:07] <yvonne_> can somebody tell me, how to install     icq???
[06:07] <eltese> yvonne: Gaim
[06:07] <_0xf> so vmware would allow me to run the windows partition on my box while on the ubuntu partition?
[06:07] <_0xf> am i understanding vmware correctly?
[06:07] <gordonjcp> yvonne_: there's a program called Gaim in the Internet menu
[06:08] <Madnez> Shapeshifter, lol! there was a way to give root access for another partitioned drive
[06:08] <Madnez> forgotten howw
[06:08] <gordonjcp> sudo su
[06:08] <gordonjcp> bah
[06:08] <_0xf> so vmware would allow me to run the windows partition on my box while on the ubuntu partition?
[06:08] <Madnez> anyone knows how to get root access for another partitioned drive, that one using NTFS?
[06:08] <_0xf> am i understanding vmware correctly?
[06:08] <eltese> stefg: Any Ideas on how to fix the problem?
[06:08] <gordonjcp> Madnez: be root, access the drive
[06:08] <danich> adedov: ty. off to read it and see what I can break :)
[06:08] <riotkittie> cjburchfield: i'm fairly useless when it comes to hardware. do you have an OS on that drive at the moment?
[06:08] <Madnez> i am root
[06:09] <gordonjcp> Madnez: so you've got root access to it then
[06:09] <cjburchfield> yes, windows xp :(
[06:09] <Madnez> gordonjcp, there is a string command
[06:09] <riotkittie> Madnez:  cd to the dir... or gksu natuilus
[06:09] <stefg> eltese: it's hard to guid you trogh the install when you running the system. i'd suggest using the 'nv' for a moment to enable you get at least an X server and being able to join here from the installed ubuntu.
[06:09] <Snoosmoomrik> anyone familiar with thunderbird charset configs? pls write to private
[06:09] <Madnez> what about transferring data?
[06:09] <cjburchfield> i'm trying to get away from xp, but to get online i have to use Verizon's program.
[06:09] <Troseph_> Anyone using Ubuntu on a MacBook? If so, I want your xorg.conf
[06:09] <cjburchfield> which is only windows right now.
[06:09] <gordonjcp> Madnez: what exactly are you trying to do?
[06:09] <Madnez> i can access it, i cant send in data
[06:09] <Madnez> write data
[06:10] <eltese> stefg: I did exactly that. I'm on the Feisty Fawn install right now
[06:10] <gordonjcp> Madnez: write data to an NTFS partition?
[06:10] <Madnez> i both hate and love the protection protocols
[06:10] <stefg> eltese: ah, good
[06:10] <Madnez> yeah. a partition on the same disc
[06:10] <_0xf> stefg  ;   if i wanted to ensure that   all xhcat logs , browser logs, gaim logs and all that stuff was encrypted,   id only have to encrypt   /home and /swap?
[06:10] <gordonjcp> Madnez: that's not a good idea, but if you're prepared to risk it then what you need to do is remount the disk with the read-write option set
[06:10] <Madnez> huh? dont need to do that
[06:10] <Snoosmoomrik> gus, anyone ever fixed anything related to ENCODING in THUNDERBIRD? pls write to PRIVATE
[06:11] <Shapeshifter> Madnez: have you got ntfs-config installed? it shold give you "root" access even if your not root anyway
[06:11] <Madnez> theres a command allowing write
[06:11] <riotkittie> cjburchfield: the fact that it cant so much as mount the drive is really worrisome to me. do you defrag it regularly? can you run a dskchk on it?
[06:11] <eltese> !ntfs-3g Madnez
[06:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs-3g madnez - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:11] <gordonjcp> Madnez: yes, you do
[06:11] <riotkittie> errr chkdsk, not dskchk
[06:11] <_0xf> stefg  ;   if i wanted to ensure that   all xhcat logs , browser logs, gaim logs and all that stuff was encrypted,   id only have to encrypt   /home and /swap?
[06:11] <cjburchfield> i just installed xp two days ago.
[06:11] <stefg> eltese: so are you able to reach restricted manager now? it should give you an option to select nvidia-glx-new
[06:11] <Madnez> ntfs config?
[06:11] <PirateHead> Does Evolution have an RSS reader?
[06:11] <eltese> stefg: going to look
[06:11] <cjburchfield> any ideas why i wouldn't be able to boot slackware cd at all?
[06:11] <gordonjcp> Madnez: just remount the drive as read-write
[06:11] <Madnez> odd... last time i remember all i had to do was enable root access to that drive
[06:12] <stefg> _0xf: all that is stored inside your /home-dir, so it's encrypted if your home-dir is
[06:12] <riotkittie> cjburchfield: bad burn? bad disc?
[06:12] <eltese> stefg: Its only one option available in there
[06:12] <cjburchfield> does it with two disks.
[06:12] <wers> what's the easiest way for me to reduce an image
[06:12] <wers> 's size
[06:12] <orduek> I can't access LogMeIn site through Ubuntu
[06:12] <riotkittie> bad download? did you check the md5?
[06:12] <cjburchfield> hrm..
[06:12] <orduek> can anyone please help me?
[06:12] <cjburchfield> lemme do that.
[06:12] <Madnez> and how do i remount it as read write?
[06:12] <eltese> stefg: and its NVIDIA graphics driver
[06:12] <tim167> how can i write the contents of my Thunderbird inboxes to a searchable archive ?
[06:12] <_0xf> stefg  ;   do u know how to encrypt /home and /swap with truecrypt?
[06:12] <Madnez> if i unmount it, how do i remount it?
[06:12] <Snoosmoomrik> does anyone use CYRILLICS here, 1157 people?
[06:13] <stefg> eltese: ok, so we're going to run 'sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic' these are metapackages which ensure you have the latest of everything
[06:13] <Kronos> god why is video drivers such a pain with ubuntu?... i just enabled the desktop 3d support or something like that, and it automaticly downloaded some nvidia driver now it wont start up after the loading bar any ideas how to sort it out?
[06:14] <jason> hi all whats up
[06:14] <wers> what's the easiest way for me to reduce an image's size?
[06:14] <kb3llm> guys what video card should i select in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   for a HP Pavilion 533w ?
[06:14] <jason> when is the offecial release of gibbon
[06:14] <Dr_willis> Kronos,  blame nvidia. :)
[06:14] <Nighthawk420> hey everyone... how do i keep ubuntu from logging me off when i leave my computer idle?  and also i am only gettin lik 5 minutes of battery life.... how do i fix that?
[06:14] <tim167> wers mogrify
[06:14] <geartrooper> hello I attached my hp 4400c scanner via usb and it was detected by sane-find-scanner.  scanimage -L showed some info as well.  when trying to use it I get a 'Failed to open device 'hp_rts88xx;libusb;002;003';   Error during device I/O'.  Can this be helped?
[06:14] <Kronos> also i seem to have 2 kernel versions... on ends in 15 the other in 16
[06:14] <jif> Kronos: did you restart like it said to?
[06:14] <wers> tim167, is that an app?
[06:14] <Kronos> jif: yep
[06:14] <tim167> wers for example mogrify 640 myimage.jpg
[06:14] <Dr_willis> Kronos,  kernel versions/driver versions/ often are the sticking point.. what is your exact card?
[06:14] <ashu> how do i do voice chat in ubuntu?
[06:14] <cjburchfield> could be a bad burn on the slack disk, but the one i used to install my server worked perfectly.
[06:15] <cjburchfield> bad cable, possibly?
[06:15] <wers> cool!thanks tim167!
[06:15] <mindframe-> when's 7.10 set to release?
[06:15] <eltese> stefg: Okay, Now Ive done that
[06:15] <Kronos> Dr_willis: gainward 6800GS AGP 512 Mb
[06:15] <tim167> wers, be sure to make a copy first, because that command modifies the file directly, so if you want to keep the full scale image, copy it first
[06:16] <jason> they said in oct. but i all ready have it
[06:16] <kb3llm> what video card should i select in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   (lspci says its an intel 828456 (gl)     so i imagine its one of the         i XXX
[06:16] <eltese> mindframe-: In about 11-12 days
[06:16] <wers> tim167, thanks! *high five!*
[06:16] <stefg> eltese: just for good measure we run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-restricted-modules-`unam -r` (note the backticks)
[06:16] <stefg> eltese: just for good measure we run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` (note the backticks)
[06:16] <jason> and when u go to install gibbon u have  to do a fresh install
[06:16] <Dr_willis> Kronos,  ok. at least its not an 8800 or some other odd card. :)
[06:16] <Nighthawk420> hey about 7.10 is it going to be a simple upgrade type process? 7.04 was my first linux distro
[06:16] <tim167> wers y/w
[06:17] <Shapeshifter> Nighthawk420: it's easy
[06:17] <tim167> wers, that command should have bee "mogrify sample 640 myimage.jpg" sorry
[06:17] <Kronos> Dr_willis: as far as odd goes it is a rather odd one since they "never" released 6800GS' with 512 mb in agp, but divers wise no it isnt it works on the normal 6800 drivers just fine
[06:17] <jason> i try to do a simple update to gibbon but it didnt work i had to burn the iso and fresh install
[06:17] <eltese> stefg: Nothing happens... It just skips a line and then a ">" shows up
[06:17] <_0xf> stefg  ;   do u know how to encrypt /home and /swap with truecrypt?
[06:17] <stefg> eltese: that's normal
[06:18] <kb3llm> if i install the 7.10 beta, will i be able to upgrade to the stable, later on?
[06:18] <stefg> _0xf: no, as said earlier i don't know
[06:18] <_0xf> ok thanks
[06:18] <eltese> stefg: Ok.. Well in thats case its done.. I guess?
[06:18] <wers> tim167, what's the difference with the "sample"?
[06:18] <BoSJo> Hi all. I often use Ping in terminal. How do i make it only Ping 4 times, or how do i make it stop Pinging?
[06:18] <laur> Hi, I'm trying to set up LTSP 5 under Ubuntu Feisty Fawn. It works, but booting the thin clients is much slower than LTSP 4.2. What could I do?
[06:18] <Kronos> Dr_willis: sunray helped me earlyer to get it working with a simmilar problem we edited a file but i'm so new at the whole linux thing i honestly cant rememnber the commands we used
[06:18] <warrior> HI HACKER!
[06:19] <Dr_willis> Kronos,  if you used the shell. try the 'history' command. :)
[06:19] <stefg> eltese: check in synaptic if only nvidia-glx-new is installed, not nvidia-glx
[06:19] <Snoosmoomrik> did anyone here have anything to do with CYRILLICS?
[06:19] <tim167> wers: sample is the command within the application mogrify to scale down an image. there are many more, see the mogrify help for more
[06:19] <Dr_willis> Kronos,  was it editing the /etc/xorg.conf to enable 'Driver 'nvidia'' ?
[06:19] <wers> oooh.. got it.. thanks! :D
[06:20] <Kronos> Dr_willis: yep it was and i just typed history it says 1 history
[06:20] <geartrooper> hello I attached my hp 4400c scanner via usb and it was detected by sane-find-scanner.  scanimage -L showed some info as well.  when trying to use it I get a 'Failed to open device 'hp_rts88xx;libusb;002;003';   Error during device I/O'.  Can this be helped?
[06:20] <eltese> stefg: Yeah it is. Not nvida-new-dev though
[06:20] <ZZd> hi, is there any ubuntu for ppc (powerpc g4)
[06:20] <tim167> wers, i made yet another type, it should be "-sample" (with a dash) :)
[06:20] <ZZd> ?
[06:20] <tim167> *typo
[06:21] <stefg> eltese: that's fine. now gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.cnf and change the driver 'nv' back to nvidia
[06:21] <wackamole> BoSJo: use the -c option, try  ping -c 4 127.0.0.1
[06:21] <stefg> eltese: that's fine. now gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the driver 'nv' back to nvidia
[06:21] <BoSJo> wackamole: will do so :-)
[06:21] <Dr_willis> Kronos,  heh..  yea.. all the histories get merged when ya exit. :(
[06:22] <geartrooper> thats still a helpful command
[06:22] <Dr_willis> Kronos,  'sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf' :) and look for the Driver 'nv' line - i guess.. Not sure why the restircted-manager tool dident change it for ya.
[06:22] <eltese> stefg: And then reboot?
[06:22] <Nighthawk420> hey everyone... how do i keep ubuntu from logging me off when i leave my computer idle?  and also i am only gettin lik 5 minutes of battery life.... how do i fix that?
[06:23] <stefg> eltese: ctrl-alt-f1 , login, run 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[06:23] <LiMaO> any idea on when a 64bit java plugin will be available for firefox?
[06:23] <stefg> eltese: ctrl-alt-f1 , login, run sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[06:23] <ZZd> Yellow Dog
[06:23] <ZZd> ?
[06:23] <Kronos> Dr_willis: that doesnt seem to work i seem to remember he told me to use something called "nano edditor"
[06:23] <punzada> LiMaO, you really just have to use 32 bit firefox to enjoy web browsing in the 64 bit environment
[06:23] <vsayikiran> stefg: please help me
[06:23] <geartrooper> sudo throw-a-fit && roll_around 'get this to work'
[06:24] <kitche> LiMaO: whenver Sun decides to release it :)
[06:24] <kevinG> hello
[06:24] <punzada> the lack of both 64 bit java and flash is retarded
[06:24] <vsayikiran> stefg: i want you to see whats the problem with azureus and java
[06:24] <kevinG> how can i remove a directory through the console?
[06:24] <wers> hmmm.. how do I reduce an image's file size? I'm having a problem posting to a thread because of my screenshot's file size
[06:24] <Dr_willis> Kronos,  nano is yet another editor you can use instead of gedit
[06:24] <LiMaO> punzada, thinking of giving Kilz script a chance and trying 32bit firefox here... i'm afraid java applets may keep crashing on me
[06:24] <jrib> !cli > kevinG (read the private message from ubotu)
[06:24] <stefg> vsayikiran: i know it, and i know that you can find a solution by google, so i'm not gonna spoonfeed you
[06:25] <LiMaO> kitche, 1.7 is on the way.. but the question is when will it be ready?? =P
[06:25] <kevinG> so..can't get a straight answer?
[06:25] <nucco> a distro poll: http://www.reviewlinux.com/index.php (wouldn't want the results skewed because of biased
[06:25] <ashu> how do i do voice chat in yahoo! and gmail in ubuntu?
[06:25] <_0xf> stefg  ;   im gonna be clean installing ubuntu again.  ....   what partition sizes should i make     /home the biggest because thats what im encrpyting?
[06:25] <nucco> publicity
[06:25] <jrib> kevinG: that is a straigh answer
[06:25] <vsayikiran> stefg: see the problem is not that simple
[06:25] <Kronos> Dr_willis: i just tryed gedit and it didnt work how could i use nano?
[06:25] <Nighthawk420> hey everyone... how do i keep ubuntu from logging me off when i leave my computer idle?  and also i am only gettin lik 5 minutes of battery life.... how do i fix that?
[06:25] <eltese> stefg: Is it meant to get me into text mode directly again?
[06:25] <kevinG> haha...no...that's just a forward.
[06:26] <kevinG> might as well just say "google it" L:
[06:26] <jrib> kevinG: did you not find the answer on the page?
[06:26] <Kronos> Dr_willis: nano /etc/X11/xorg.confg
[06:26] <vsayikiran> stefg: if you want i can post the error output in pastebin.ubuntu.nl website
[06:26] <alec> hey, im having some trouble with my macbook pro and gutsy 7.10
[06:26] <Dr_willis> Kronos,  use 'nano' instead of gedit.. and of course you NEED the sudo stuff . its a system file. so you need root access
[06:26] <stefg> eltese: actualy that should start X again. but as i just realized you need to change the kernel module so a reboot is required
[06:26] <_0xf> stefg  ;   im gonna be clean installing ubuntu again.  ....   what partition sizes should i make     /home the biggest because thats what im encrpyting?
[06:26] <Dr_willis> Kronos,  and get the name of the file right. :) use the <tab> key for name completion
[06:27] <wii> DONT MINE Mii IM JUST PASSING TRU
[06:27] <eltese> stefg: So I should run gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change nv to nvidia again and then make a reboot?
[06:27] <alec> im on a macbook pro and my wifi isnt working. the madwifi svn link given in a thread on the forums doesnt work. any help?
[06:27] <Kronos> Dr_willis: alllrightt... we're learning... good tips
[06:28] <Schalken> !madwifi
[06:28] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:28] <stefg> eltese: right. if it doesn't work, you probably know the drill how to switch back to nv then
[06:28] <jrib> kevinG: "rmdir: The rmdir command will delete an empty directory. To delete a directory and all of its contents recursively, use rm -r instead."
[06:28] <wii> that aint the way i wanted to go tru
[06:28] <eltese> stefg: Yup
[06:28] <Schalken> !madwifi > alec
[06:28] <alec> thanks :)
[06:28] <cjburchfield> hrm...
[06:28] <geartrooper> hello I attached my hp 4400c scanner via usb and it was detected by sane-find-scanner.  scanimage -L showed some info as well.  when trying to use it I get a 'Failed to open device 'hp_rts88xx;libusb;002;003';   Error during device I/O'.  Can this be helped?
[06:28] <vsayikiran> stefg: i know you are busy but please dont ignore me
[06:28] <cjburchfield> md5sums match on the slack iso...
[06:29] <kevinG> thank you, jrib, for a direct answer :)
[06:29] <cjburchfield> anybody have any idea why i can boot from windows xp cd, and ubuntu cd, but not slack cd?
[06:29] <Kronos> Dr_willis: any command to restart from kernel? or just good old power button?
[06:30] <stefg> vsayikiran: i've got an educational read for you: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html
[06:30] <nucco> cjburchfield: is the cd ok?
[06:30] <Dr_willis> Kronos,  use the icons for reboot......
[06:30] <Schalken> cjburchfield: ask in #slackware
[06:30] <cjburchfield> yeah, md5sums are good.
[06:30] <cjburchfield> thanks.
[06:30] <Dr_willis> Kronos,  your windows training is showing. :)
[06:30] <ulisse> 'lo guys
[06:30] <jrib> kevinG: but now I can expect you to not ask any more of the questions on that page :)
[06:30] <verb3k> cjburchfield, maybe the ISO is corrupt or something
[06:30] <Schalken> ulisse: 'lo
[06:30] <ulisse> just upgraded to gutsy, everything ran smoothly eve if I had some 3rd party repos
[06:30] <LiMaO> anyone here heard about the Skinny Elephant thing?
[06:30] <verb3k> cjburchfield, oh .sorry
[06:31] <jrib> !offtopic | LiMaO
[06:31] <ubotu> LiMaO: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:31] <LiMaO> Raising Skinny Elephants is Utterly Boring
[06:31] <wackamole> cjburchfield: try googling  slackware cd older bios
[06:31] <ulisse> btw, is there a way to have the "active corners" with default gutsy compiz?
[06:31] <Kronos> Dr_willis: which icons? i couldnt get into ubuntu if u think i'm the the desktop enviroment... i'm in the kernel shell thingy, or DOS as i would call it (lol)
[06:31] <LiMaO> jrib, that's not offtopic.. that's an answer to Dr_Willis and Kronos
[06:31] <cjburchfield> thanks
[06:31] <Schalken> geartrooper: scanner support under ubuntu isnt very good. you might be able to get it working, but dont expect too much.
[06:31] <Schalken> !scanner > geartrooper
[06:31] <LiMaO> SysReq + R, S, E, U, B
[06:32] <nucco> looks like gutsy's livecd disables some options at boot time depending on system capabilities
[06:32] <Aguaz> Morning.. Is anyone here running 7.04 on a PPC?
[06:32] <jrib> LiMaO: then please address them to prevent confusion
[06:32] <Dialntone> that firefox trick really did the trick, i tried to make xmms as my default media player for shoutcase song,, all i had to do was, type in /usr/bin/xmms to launch the program just xmms wouldn't work
[06:32] <Dialntone> shoutcast
[06:32] <geartrooper> thankyou Schalken.  unfortunately I've read them.
[06:32] <LiMaO> jrib, i just asked first to know if anyone here know more about it than me, so that i don't give wrong information
[06:33] <nucco> Dialntone: rhythmbox should be able to handle shoutcast streams.. even Totem
[06:33] <Schalken> geartrooper: no help? hmm. anything about your moedl of scanner on the wiki?
[06:33] <LiMaO> but i'm aware that sysreq + some keys can reboot your system, even it being hard frozen
[06:33] <Schalken> model*
[06:33] <kevinG> jrib, in that case you might as well send the "complete linux guide for noobs" link to anyone who asks a question :)
[06:33] <Dialntone> which one do you perfer?
[06:33] <geartrooper> its a touch-and-go model.  It was detected but I get that error.
[06:33] <kevinG> then this chat room would be obsolete :(
[06:33] <CarstenF> how do i enable the arrowkeys in a shell , to scroll up down in the last commands i entered ?? - now it just shows ansi escape chars
[06:33] <buntunub> anyone else have xorg issues after the latest gutsy kernel upgrade?
[06:34] <Dialntone> nucco,  which one do you prefer?
[06:34] <riotkittie> buntunub: #ubuntu+1  for gutsy support
[06:34] <jimface> jimface
[06:34] <buntunub> kk thx
[06:34] <nucco> Dialntone: rhythmbox. just add a new internet station
[06:34] <jimface> irc://irc.xrmradio.com:6667/#xrmradio/
[06:34] <nucco> long as you have the codecs, it should play fine
[06:35] <geartrooper> Schalken, in /etc/sane.d/dll.conf there wasn't an 'hp_rts88xx' line to uncomment.
[06:35] <Tstnz> my ram memory is occupied in 928 mb... is it normal? I m running compiz-fusion....
[06:35] <jrib> kevinG: yes, and then things without answers on the wiki could be answered
[06:35] <riotkittie> CarstenF: try using the pgup/pgdown keys?   or depending on what you're doing, pipe the command to less or more?
[06:35] <nucco> Tstnz: depends what other programs you have running :)
[06:35] <Tstnz> nucco: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/664/
[06:35] <Tstnz> nucco: please see this
[06:35] <Dialntone> when firefox won't start.. whats a good command to turn it back on? besides waiting for the system?
[06:36] <riotkittie> RSN = WPA2? yay? nay?
[06:36] <kevinG> ok, i'm off to play some nwn. later :)
[06:36] <BobSapp> is rhere a way to determine the dependencies a .deb requires before attempting to install it?#
[06:36] <Tstnz> nucco: just kvirc and mozilla
[06:36] <nucco> Dialntone... kill it, then launch it again
[06:36] <riotkittie> Dialntone: run it from a term, see if its giving any error msgs
[06:36] <nucco> Tstnz, lookin
[06:36] <Tstnz> nucco: thx
[06:37] <nucco> Tstnz: you using gnome?
[06:37] <vsayikiran> how can i install a .jar file
[06:37] <CarstenF> how do i enable the arrowkeys in a shell (7.04 desktop) , to scroll up down in the last commands i entered ?? - now it just shows ansi escape chars
[06:37] <Tstnz> nucco: ya... I'm running compiz by xls
[06:37] <Dialntone> cool thanks
[06:38] <nucco> Tstnz: don't know what xls is, but open a graphical system monitor, and sort the process by resource use (click on the column header) see what's at the top.
[06:38] <vsayikiran> while i run azureus from xterm then i get java runtime error , so what could be the problem
[06:38] <xxx> alo
[06:39] <void^> vsayikiran: pastebin the error.
[06:39] <vsayikiran> when i run azzureus i get java run time error, does anyone have solution
[06:39] <vsayikiran> void^: ok
[06:39] <Tstnz> is it possible to change partition dimension with gpart for linux, or do I have to reinstall
[06:39] <nucco> Tstnz: check what your uptime is, maybe a leaking process hogged up the memory after a long time running
[06:40] <BobSapp> Tstnz: with gparted yes i dont know about gpart
[06:40] <BobSapp> Tstnz: but i wouldnt do it on a partition that is _currently_mounted_ of course
[06:40] <Tstnz> BobSapp: ok.. thx.. I will do from windows
[06:40] <verb3k> vsayikiran, I also ran into many errors with azureus , It seems that it won't really work well on ubuntu ....I suggest using Deluge
[06:40] <BobSapp> if you can download riplinux, it has a copy of gparted on its live cd
[06:40] <nucco> Tstnz: if its an ext3 partition, you can't do it from windows
[06:41] <nucco> or gparted livecd
[06:41] <cjburchfield> isn't 'sda' the usb drives in ubuntu, since i don't have scsi?
[06:41] <void^> verb3k: ubuntu's azureus package is just very bad, you should use the official tarball.
[06:41] <nucco> cjburchfield, yes, not just ubuntu though
[06:41] <vsayikiran> verb3k: azureus is it kde based package
[06:41] <BobSapp> nucco: ah maybe i meant that, best to go for the gparted live cd then
[06:41] <stefg> Tstnz: you can use the Live CD to resize partitions (it's not possible to alter mounted ones, so you have to tun from LiveCD). But dpending on how much custom work you've don to your install, a reinstall might be quicker
[06:41] <cjburchfield> hrm..
[06:41] <Sekrit> YOU BUNT OO
[06:41] <Tstnz> stefg: ok thx
[06:41] <Dialntone> i'm trying to get wmv movies to work on firefox, asf things like that, is there' a plug-in i can install?
[06:41] <vsayikiran> void^: what is tarball
[06:42] <cjburchfield> so, if i have the usb cable for my phone plugged in, but my phone isn't plugged in, that may be causing the errors..
[06:42] <Sekrit> YOU BUNT OO\
[06:42] <cjburchfield> interesting.
[06:42] <BobSapp> Sekrit: impressive wit.
[06:42] <nucco> Dialntone: should be a totem-"browser" package or something
[06:42] <void^> vsayikiran: an archive
[06:42] <jan__> I have a wlan0 interface connected to the Internet via a wireless router. And now I have connected another USB ethernet stick (wlan1). I want others to be able to connect to the Internet via the wlan1 interface. I've followed instructions on several web pages, but I can't even get the computers to be able to ping each other.
[06:42] <aa__> achda tea..
[06:42] <jan__> Anyone have any working howto?
[06:42] <BobSapp> jan__: have you tried configuring masq
[06:42] <BobSapp> ?
[06:43] <vsayikiran> void^: please tell me which is the best bittorrent client in ubuntu
[06:43] <nucco> jan__: you mean you want to share the internet access on wlan0 via wlan1 ?
[06:43] <BobSapp> rtorrent.
[06:43] <cjburchfield> utorrent.
[06:43] <jan__> BobSapp: I haven't got that far; I just want to be able to ping them first.
[06:43] <Dialntone> nucco,  i think it has something to do with that' i went and browse the plug-in archive inside firefox it wants to use the samething i just wish it told me to install it the first time
[06:43] <stefg> !deluge
[06:43] <void^> vsayikiran: azureus for fancy gui, rtorrent for ssh+screen use.
[06:43] <ubotu> deluge is a new Bittorrent client, created using Python and GTK+, intended to bring a native, full-featured client to !GTK environments such as GNOME and Xfce - See http://deluge-torrent.org/ for more information or http://download.deluge-torrent.org/stable/ubuntu/feisty/ for downloading.
[06:43] <nucco> Dialntone: check synaptic.
[06:43] <jan__> masq. is only required to actually get the network to pass the "inner" traffic onto the internet, right?
[06:44] <BobSapp> jan__: your computer needs to act as a router for the wireless clients that will be connecting to wlan1
[06:44] <nucco> jan__ : I find installing 'firestarter' to be the simplest way!
[06:44] <Sekrit> hey gnome guys, how many pens come in a box
[06:44] <BobSapp> anyway the last time i used masq was a while ago...
[06:44] <jan__> nucco: firestarter won't work, because it doesn't find an eth0 interface. :(
[06:44] <Dialntone> add/remove program on ubuntoo is different from synaptics?
[06:44] <BobSapp> back in my pppd days
[06:45] <verb3k> void^, thanks for that suggestion..I'll try compiling it
[06:45] <nucco> jan__ it should be able to find the wlan* interfaces...
[06:45] <void^> verb3k: no need to compile, download, extract, run
[06:45] <nucco> jan__ oh, sorry, perhaps it doesn't support sharing over adhoc networks...
[06:45] <nucco> hmmm...
[06:45] <scag> Apart from using lspci, is there a different command to view the name of the Audio Device / Soundcard, in the Terminal?
[06:46] <titancompu> Can someone tell me how to burn a dmg file from ubuntu? It's a dvd image and only my linux box has a burner in it
[06:46] <stefg> aply -l
[06:46] <stefg> aplay -l
[06:46] <ome> when i reboot my mouse turns into an X and a gui loads to configure xorg. Now when i try to enable restricted video driver, it says i need install a linux restricted driver thats already installed. I can no longer set my monitor for its optimal resolution and anything thats 3d wont work now. Anyone experienced this?
[06:47] <jan__> I tried to reduce my goals. I simply want to be able to ping the what-will-become-router and the inner computer. But I can't even get that to work. :/
[06:47] <nucco> jan__ http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=sharing+internet+connection+on+debian&btnG=Google+Search   translate to ubuntu as necessary
[06:47] <vsayikiran> void^: this is the link http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39887/
[06:47] <nucco> jan__ make sure the wlan1 card is in Ad-hoc mode
[06:47] <princess^> how can i join server undernet?
[06:47] <Cocodude> Hello. I'm trying to set up Linux RAID on my system and want my root to be RAID-5. I've set up the filesystem OK, but can't boot from it. When I try to boot up (from grub), the system just seems to wait and doesn't mount the root filesystem. It's as if it can't find my RAID device (/dev/md0). Any ideas what I could be doing wrong?
[06:47] <nucco> use 'iwconfig' as root or via 'sudo'
[06:47] <Journeyman> princess^, type /server irc.undernet.org
[06:48] <princess^> ty very much
[06:48] <Journeyman> if you want to stay on this server too you can open another server tab
[06:48] <Gnimsh> princess^
[06:48] <Gnimsh> I was about to tell her about /server -m
[06:48] <CarstenF> how do i enable the arrowkeys in a shell , to scroll up down in the last commands i entered ?? - now it just shows ansi escape chars
[06:48] <Journeyman> Gnimsh, /server -m is only for mirc
[06:48] <vsayikiran> void^: error -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39887/
[06:49] <defcons> where is $PATH defined?
[06:49] <Gnimsh> ah
[06:49] <Gnimsh> yes everyone, I'm here via windows atm
[06:49] <Journeyman> I doubt many users on here use mirc
[06:49] <Journeyman> windows != using mirc
[06:49] <jan__> nucco: Hmm.. The problem is that I have already googled for that, and I have found lots of good information, but it doesn't work. That's why I've reduced my goals (temporarily) from "Internet access" to "pinging A from B, and B from A". But not even that is working. :(
[06:49] <Gnimsh> I deleted my linux partition while installing XP on my laptop so I didn't have to use vista
[06:49] <defcons> anyone?
[06:49] <stefg> titancompu: http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=905
[06:50] <defcons> it's definitely not in /etc/profile
[06:50] <Juancabrito> hi. Can anyone help me using ubuntu as LAMP server?
[06:50] <Journeyman> Gnimsh, no one is going to say anything to you about using windows, no need for excuses
[06:50] <nucco> jan__: you can use iwconfig?
[06:50] <Gnimsh> Put a light on top of it
[06:50] <void^> vsayikiran: that happens because of the bugs in ubuntu's azureus package
[06:50] <jan__> nucco: Yes
[06:50] <Gnimsh> heh
[06:50] <lufis> Anyone else having trouble running moblock on gutsy?
[06:50] <nucco> jan__ use iwconfig to create an adhoc network on wlan1
[06:50] <Ashfire908> are the repositorys updated at a set time?
[06:50] <OM1136> Juancabrito, maybe, I am using xampp here
[06:50] <titancompu> stefg: tried that, the script runs, but when it does it tells me the partition is corrupt, which i know it isn't
[06:51] <kitche> lufis: #ubuntu+1 for gutsy for a few more days :)
[06:51] <vsayikiran> void^: so what should i do now reinstall azureus package
[06:51] <Journeyman> :) mm gusty will be nice
[06:51] <jan__> nucco: Yes, I have done that, and the inner network device finds the ad-hoc network.
[06:51] <void^> vsayikiran: you should download the official package from azureus.sf.net, extract it somewhere in your home directory and run it from there.
[06:51] <lufis> Ashfire908: i think it's set on a defined interval, see the options in system > administration > software sourced
[06:51] <lufis> sources*
[06:51] <nucco> jan__ wait, you have two wireless interfaces. wlan0 is connected to the internet.
[06:52] <nucco> jan__ you want to share that connection via wlan1 to other computers right?
[06:52] <Juancabrito> OM1136: I want to use the server for testing but I don't know how to communicate with my windows box
[06:52] <stefg> titancompu: hmm... it's a quick hack, so i'm not too surprised. Maybe k3b understands .dmg ? I don't know but could imagine that
[06:52] <jan__> nucco: Yes. But for now I'd just settle for "ping" to work. :)
[06:52] <vsayikiran> void^: so that package wont give me any error
[06:52] <Ashfire908> lufis, no, i mean the reporsitys themselvers
[06:52] <nucco> jan__ ping to work between two computers on your wlan1 interface, right?
[06:52] <lufis> Ashfire908: oh, i dunno
[06:53] <jan__> nucco: Yes, exactly.
[06:53] <vsayikiran> void^: i have opened soource forge .net website
[06:53] <jan__> nucco: I have set them up to use static addresses.
[06:53] <nucco> jan__ good. use iwconfig to create an ad-hoc network on wlan1, then check if another computer can see, and connect to that ad-hoc network.
[06:53] <jan__> nucco: Physically, they find each other.
[06:54] <nucco> jan__ are you talking about two computers, or two interfaces on the same computer?
[06:54] <nucco> jan__: ignore wlan0 for now, just make an ad-hoc network on wlan1
[06:54] <opt> vsayikiran: what is your problem?
[06:54] <jan__> nucco: Two "computers" (This system is an Ubuntu system, and the other is a Pocket PC).
[06:54] <OM1136> Juancabrito, check your tabs for a private chat with me
[06:54] <jan__> nucco: That's the plan. :)
[06:54] <jan__> nucco: The Pocket PC does find the ad-hoc network.
[06:55] <nucco> jan__ have you created an adhoc network on wlan1, and verified that the pocketpc can see and connect to it?
[06:55] <titancompu> stefg: I was hoping so too, but K3b and gnomebaker kick it out
[06:55] <jan__> nucco: So they are "connected" in the physical sense.
[06:55] <vsayikiran> opt: i want to download azureus setup file , there are some .jar files how to download them
[06:55] <nucco> jan__ good. run iwconfig without arguments and show me the output.
[06:55] <Juancabrito> OM1136: I'm writing you in private but you don't answer
[06:55] <nucco> jan__ use a pastbin :)
[06:55] <void^> vsayikiran: it certainly won't give you that error. don't bother with the jar file, download the full package.
[06:55] <jan__> ucco: Do you know of a good pastebin? :)
[06:55] <nucco> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:56] <opt> vsayikiran which jar file do you want to download? why can't you download it with a browser?
[06:56] <jan__> nucco: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39890/
[06:56] <vsayikiran> opt: no problem with download i want to know how to install a .jar file
[06:57] <jan__> nucco: The PocketPC finds the "Snork" "network".
[06:57] <Juancabrito> hi. Can anyone help me using ubuntu as LAMP server?
[06:57] <jan__> nucco: So, they are "connected" on some level.
[06:57] <nucco> is the pocket pc connected to the ap with mac: 1E:B6:56:F0:8B:05
[06:57] <nucco> ?
[06:57] <OM1136> Juancabrito, I am trying to open a dialogue with you
[06:57] <OM1136> Juancabrito, you are not responding
[06:58] <jan__> nucco: Hm? You mean that I should check the PocketPC, which AccessPoint is has?
[06:58] <Juancabrito> OM1136: I dont' know what's wrong
[06:58] <nucco> jan__ yes...
[06:58] <stefg> vsayikiran: http://azureus.sourceforge.net/howto_linux.php
[06:58] <kitche> !register | OM1136 register to pm
[06:58] <ubotu> OM1136 register to pm: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[06:59] <nucco> jan__ I mean check that the accesspoint the pocket pc is connected to is the same as the one showing in iwconfig
[06:59] <jason> how do i add forstwire irc chat to xchat
[06:59] <opt> vsayikiran: jar file contains java software, you can run it only if the designer of the software wants you run it directly from shell, in that case the procedure is java -jar software.jar
[06:59] <jan__> nucco: Yes, it's the proper AP mac on the PocketPC.
[06:59] <jason> i ask on frost they said to add chat.peercommon.net
[06:59] <jason> port 6667
[06:59] <vsayikiran> opt: thanks
[07:00] <void^> opt: doesn't work that way with this particular jar file.
[07:00] <jason> but it will not connect like that
[07:00] <Juancabrito> OM1136: did you see the ubotu message?
[07:00] <OM1136> i did
[07:00] <opt> void^: what does that jar file contain?
[07:00] <nucco> jan__: hmmm, try restarting network.
[07:00] <void^> opt: he wants to run azureus.
[07:00] <nucco> jan__ sudo /etc/init.d/network restart
[07:00] <jan__> nucco: I've done that, several times. :) No change. :(
[07:01] <opt> vsayikiran: if you want to run azureus, install the debian package
[07:01] <jan__> nucco: So, they seem "connected" on a wifi-level, but they are not able to reach each other on an IP level.
[07:01] <void^> opt: the package in ubuntu is horribly broken.
[07:01] <nucco> jan__: specify a channel manually with iwconfig. then disconnect the pocket pc from the network, and reconnect it.
[07:01] <nucco> jan__: I've been in that situation many times before too... don't know exactly what fixes it.
[07:02] <jan__> nucco: I've already tried that, and it didn't help. :(
[07:02] <vsayikiran> opt: i have installed from synaptic but when i run azureus i get runtime errors
[07:02] <opt> ok and what about the jar file from sourceforge?
[07:02] <opt> what does it exactly contain
[07:02] <ikonia> java classes
[07:02] <opt> java classes and what MANIFEST file?
[07:02] <opt> does it have a Main class?
[07:02] <void^> opt: it simply can't be run with the -jar parameter, since it isn't setup that way with a manifest file.
[07:03] <unicode> !ut
[07:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ut - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:03] <jan__> nucco: Yes, I've seen this too before, and I have been able to get out of it, but I've never figured out how. Suddenly, it would just work. But this time I've been battling it for a whole day without results.
[07:03] <gallogj> I hate azureus ktorrent is good
[07:03] <luis> do you guys know if you can get google talk on ubuntu?
[07:03] <soulrider> hey, what program can i use to copy a DVD ?
[07:03] <ikonia> !offtopic >gallogj
[07:03] <jan__> gallogj: rtorrent can be detached in a screen session, which is neat.
[07:04] <gallogj> pidgin supports google-talk
[07:04] <void^> opt: you need to specify the main class, and you need to have the correct swt libraries (native and java interface) in classpath. in short, the solution is to download the platform specific package and run the "azureus" script shipped with it, as i have told him to do.
[07:04] <jeroen_> hello people!
[07:04] <opt> vsayikiran: also it would be better if you install Sun's Java
[07:04] <jeroen_> Ubuntu is finally doing what I want it to do
[07:04] <luis>  do you guys know if you can get google talk on ubuntu?
[07:04] <nucco> jan__ : sad... you seem to know your way around as well as I do, I don't think I have any more ideas that you probably haven't tried
[07:04] <scag> When is swap used, when RAM is insufficent?
[07:05] <sunup> hello people
[07:05] <opt> luis, use GAIM or Pidgin
[07:05] <hozano> Hi folks. How can I remove a specified HAL data? The automount do not get mount my USB drive.
[07:05] <gallogj> I was pleasantly surprised with 7.04 on my Thinkpad, cant wait for 7.10
[07:05] <brobostigon> some of us cant use suns java, if we have powerpc/
[07:05] <vsayikiran> opt: i installed sunjava from snyaptic
[07:05] <luis> I know, but I like the little alerts it gives me when I get an email
[07:05] <luis> google talk does that
[07:05] <jeroen_> now I am looking into getting the Xbox Elite Migration cable to work
[07:05] <jan__> nucco: Well, thanks for trying, none the less. I'll keep trying. :) See'ya!
[07:05] <nucco> scag: the kernel normally tries to make sure you won't get an 'OOM' condition if you launch a new program
[07:05] <nucco> jan__ good luck
[07:05] <LjL> BobSapp, but just doing  apt-cache show <package>  will list its dependencies
[07:05] <scag> nucco: OOM?
[07:06] <Juancabrito> OM1136: are you there yet?
[07:06] <nucco> scag: Out Of Memory
[07:06] <nucco> :)
[07:06] <UltraNav> *** openvpn *** Anyone here who successfully set up a server on Ubuntu ? I have a problem getting packets from tun0 forwarded to somewhere else. ping from server to client works on the network level (icmp-request is sent and icmp-reply comes back) but ping doesn't see the icmp-reply --- any ideas ???
[07:06] <Juancabrito>  hi. Can anyone help me using ubuntu as LAMP server?
[07:06] <scag> nucco: Okay... So when does the swap partition come into use?
[07:06] <stefg> !lamp
[07:06] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[07:06] <scag> nucco: My swap is always 0.00
[07:06] <nucco> juancabrito: you mean you want to install php, mysql, apache etc???
[07:06] <rpj8> Hey guys, any reason as to why my sound sounds like ass?
[07:06] <nucco> scag: how much RAM have you?
[07:06] <opt> !tell lamp
[07:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about  tell lamp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:07] <scag> nucco: 2GB
[07:07] <opt> !lamp to Juancabrito
[07:07] <nucco> scag: nice :) . swap will be used as your memory use starts approaching 2G.
[07:07] <opt> !lamp
[07:07] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[07:07] <Juancabrito> nucco: yes, but to use this server to test development made in windows
[07:07] <stefg> opt: the bot uses bash syntax :-)
[07:07] <nucco> scag: how much RAM is free right now?
[07:07] <gallogj> xampp is what I use when I want to do WAMPP they have linux support too, might make it easier getting all the components working together
[07:08] <opt> how to tell the bot to tell something to a particular person only
[07:08] <stefg> opt: including i/o redirect
[07:08] <nucco> Juancabrito: it doesn't matter what you want to use it for: install 'apache2'
[07:08] <rpj8> Hey guys, any reason as to why my sound sounds like ass?
[07:08] <scag> nucco: Like about 1.8GB is free
[07:08] <opt> !tell > Juancabrito
[07:08] <nucco> scag: that means swap isn't needed
[07:08] <opt> !lamp > Juancabrito
[07:08] <opt> !lamp > opt
[07:08] <nucco> scag: it's a good thing if swap isn't used, your system will be faster
[07:08] <stefg> !msgthebot | opt
[07:08] <ubotu> opt: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[07:09] <stefg> !msgthebot  > opt
[07:09] <Juancabrito> nucco: I have Apache, php and mysql installed, but I don't know how to communicate from my windows box
[07:09] <princess^> how can i see the nicks next to the main?
[07:09] <jeroen_> not an awful lot of docs available on the xbox migration cable
[07:09] <scag> nucco: Yeah, it is fast:), but say about at 1GB usage, will swap be in use? I haven't yet installed any apps that eats up RAM. I'm waiting for Gutsy so I can do a fresh install.
[07:09] <nucco> juancabrito: what do you mean by communicate? you mean to view pages on your windows box from linux?
[07:09] <snarkyFish> Can someone tell a noob how to create a launcher that opens a terminal, issues a command, and keeps the thing open?  I've tried the obvious things I think...
[07:09] <Juancabrito> nucco: yes
[07:09] <nucco> scag: not necessarily. maybe aroud 1.5Gb
[07:09] <Juancabrito> nucco: test the pages
[07:10] <nucco> juancabrito: you don't need LAMP then. just open firefox
[07:10] <scag> Ah okay
[07:10] <rpj8> Guys, my sound is terrible. I think, for one, it's only mono, and for two, it's scratchy sounding
[07:10] <Ashfire908> how do i add a ssh key to the authorized keys file?
[07:10] <foug> will 7.10 be more secure than 7.04?
[07:10] <stefg> !intelhda  | rpj8
[07:10] <ubotu> rpj8: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[07:10] <nucco> juancabrito: or epiphany, and type the url of the site: e.g http://192.168.0.22/mysite
[07:10] <opt> what is not so secure in 7.10?
[07:10] <usser> snarkyFish: i can tell u how to do it in kde
[07:10] <opt> 7.04*
[07:11] <LjL> snarkyFish: "xterm top", for instance.
[07:11] <nucco> juancabrito: assuming the ip address of your windows machine is 192.168.0.22 and the site is located in the folder 'mysite'
[07:11] <opt> foug: what is not so secure in Ubuntu 7.04?
[07:11] <snarkyFish> usser: gnome, i'm afraid.
[07:11] <snarkyFish> LjL: More context?  what is xterm top?
[07:11] <foug> opt, well nothing but i saw there were some viruses made for ubuntu, will 7.10 protect you better?
[07:12] <usser> foug: linux security model is based on unixes and is more than 40 years old i dont think they gonna introduce some new security features
[07:12] <usser> foug: well apart from appArmor
[07:12] <opt> foug: what viruses?
[07:12] <Journeyman> viruses made for ubuntu? url please?
[07:12] <usser> foug: viruses?
[07:12] <usser> link
[07:12] <LjL> snoogie: xterm is a terminal emulator, like gnome-terminal (except i don't have gnome-terminal so i can't try that one). top is just a command that lists all processes - just an example command.
[07:12] <Journeyman> I want the documentation for this
[07:12] <foug> opt, usser i dunno i saw it on some chart
[07:12] <opt> foug: post the link.
[07:12] <Journeyman> ROFL
[07:12] <opt> foug: what chart?
[07:12] <foug> opt, aw crap hold on
[07:12] <usser> this is gonna make slashdot
[07:12] <Journeyman> probably some chart of linux viruses that are old and obsolete
[07:12] <Juancabrito> nucco: no, my linux machine has Apache, php, mysql, but I don't know how to upload from my windows machine
[07:12] <snoogie> LjL, what ?
[07:13] <foug> opt, http://blogs.csoonline.com/windows_vista_6_month_vulnerability_report it was something similar to this
[07:13] <LjL> snoogie: sorry, that was for snarkyFish. snarkyFish, see above
[07:13] <snarkyFish> snoogie: LjL was talking to me.  ; )
[07:13] <nucco> juancabrito: you want to put the site on your linux box and run it from there?
[07:13] <mnuaimat> hi guys, i have messed with my /etc/fstab and /etc/mtab, is there anyway i can make ubuntu re-generate them automatically ?
[07:13] <snoogie> oh sorry my xchat pop up because you wrote my nick :D
[07:13] <Juancabrito> nucco: yes, run it there and see the pages on my windows machine
[07:13] <snoogie> latex :)
[07:13] <snoogie> later
[07:13] <snoogie> :D
[07:13] <snarkyFish> LjL:  yeah, just want to issue a ruby command (starts the server) in the term, and have it stay open.. but i want that from a launcher.. it opens, runs, and closes.  : (
[07:14] <opt> foug: I can't find any viruses for Ubuntu in the chart you have provided.
[07:14] <nucco> Juancabrito: what language did you code in? php?
[07:14] <mnuaimat> hi guys, i have messed with my /etc/fstab and /etc/mtab, is there anyway i can make ubuntu re-generate them automatically ?
[07:14] <opt> foug: In fact the word "virus" is not present in the main article at all.
[07:14] <Juancabrito> nucco: yes
[07:14] <nucco> mnuaimat: check if there's an old backup there
[07:14] <usser> foug: oh that is holes in the system, not viruses, in linux theres more of them cause the system is open source and code is analyzed by everybody linuxes also has the fastest patch releases
[07:14] <mnuaimat> nucco: i didnt make a backup
[07:14] <nucco> Juancabrito, give me the path to your home directory, I'll pastbin some commands for you.
[07:14] <flamekebab_> I'm trying to figure out what I should do to scan through a folder containing hundreds of sub folders and set the permissions to be readable and writeable by all
[07:14] <nucco> mnuaimat: what editor did you use to "mess them up"?
[07:14] <gallogj> I saw an exploit from version 5.10 but didn't see anything on later versions
[07:15] <foug> usser, ahh ok. I'm using Debian Etch atm and it's a big hassle/pain in the ass, can't wait for 7.10
[07:15] <mnuaimat> nucco: vim
[07:15] <usser> foug: windows on the other hand no one can do that so there's less vulnerabilities discovered thats it
[07:15] <nucco> mnuaimat... do "ls /etc/fstab*" in a terminal
[07:15] <nucco> tell me what you see
[07:15] <Juancabrito> nucco: I'm sorry, what home directory? :(
[07:15] <opt> foug: If you find Debian Etch as pain in the ass why don't you use Ubuntu 7.04?
[07:15] <mnuaimat> nucco: you mean looking for .swp files ?
[07:16] <nucco> Juancarlos: copy the files on a flash drive or something, copy the files onto your ubuntu machine first.
[07:16] <soukka> Hi, can someone help me, i get no screens found now because i upgraded feisty->gutsy
[07:16] <mnuaimat> nucco: ok , i got your idea, thank you man
[07:16] <usser> soukka: what video card do u have?
[07:16] <LGM> when i run apt-get update i receave the folloing error "W: GPG error: http://volatile.debian.org etch/volatile Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY EC61E0B0BBE55AB3
[07:16] <LGM> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems"  inay idea on fixing this  ?
[07:16] <LacusOdii> Hi all.
[07:16] <stefg> !gutsy | soukka , gutsy is currently broken
[07:16] <ubotu> soukka , gutsy is currently broken: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[07:16] <nucco> mnuaimat: check if there are other copies of /etc/fstab around with extra characters at the end
[07:16] <foug> opt, well i wanted to get away from some of the stuff ubuntu installed i didn't want, and maybe learn more about linux. But so far i havn't learned anything, it's just more compiling than Ubuntu and more complicated ways of doing things. I've failed twice trying to set up direct rendering
[07:16] <soukka> usser: i tried nvidia and radeon
[07:17] <mnuaimat> nucco: ok, i will , thank you so much :)
[07:17] <soukka> stefg: my friend uses a working gutsy :s
[07:17] <IhateCLI> Hi all, I need to add a chart in OOo writer, can you tell me how or point me to the right channel please?
[07:17] <tech0007> i have asus p4v8x-mx board, should i be using via or vesa xserver?\
[07:17] <nucco> mnuaimat: welcome :)
[07:17] <usser> soukka: do sudo dpkg --purge linux-restricted-modules
[07:17] <stefg> soukka: but not with the latest updates and restricted drivers
[07:17] <soukka> usser: thanks, ill try
[07:17] <usser> soukka: and then sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules
[07:17] <nucco> ihateCLI: use insert menu...
[07:18] <usser> soukka: after that reboot
[07:18] <usser> soukka: oh one more thing
[07:18] <usser> soukka: what model your nvidia card is?
[07:18] <LjL> snarkyFish: just chain *two* commands, the one you want, plus one that keeps the terminal from closing. i can't think of a command that's *specifically* made for that, but a "cat" will do. so, with xterm, that would be  xterm -e "echo hello there; cat" 
[07:18] <IhateCLI> nucco: Where do I put the data?
[07:18] <LacusOdii> Is there a way to make windows NOT autoraise unless I click on the title bar?
[07:19] <princess^> can u give me pls the server for undernet?
[07:19] <soukka> usser:  its gf6800
[07:19] <LacusOdii> I guess, raise would be the correct word
[07:19] <snarkyFish> LjL: thanks, that works.. i'll play with it.
[07:19] <vvd> is there something like the debian reference for ubuntu?
[07:19] <NIklas_E> anyone know how to fix sync problem with mytharchive in ubuntu?
[07:20] <usser> soukka: yea ok just try it
[07:20] <nucco> IhateCLI: try creating a table with the data first
[07:20] <stefg> vvd: basically the debian reference works for ubuntu in most parts.
[07:20] <IhateCLI> nucco: Ok, I figured it out. Thanks!
[07:20] <vvd> stefg: its kinda outdated though
[07:20] <vvd> stefg: no hal and all this new shit
[07:20] <tech0007>  i have asus p4v8x-mx board, should i be using via or vesa xserver?
[07:21] <stefg> vvd: wiki
[07:21] <nucco> Juancabrito: what's up?
[07:21] <LacusOdii> dont know where config file for the WM is.
[07:21] <vvd> stefg: k
[07:21] <nucco> tech0007: probably vesa...
[07:21] <krzysiek> siema
[07:21] <krzysiek> jest ktos z polski??
[07:21] <flamekebab_> I'm trying to figure out what I should do to scan through a folder containing hundreds of sub folders and set the permissions to be readable and writeable by all
[07:21] <LjL> !pl | krzysiek
[07:21] <ubotu> krzysiek: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[07:22] <nucco> flamekebab chmod -ARE 777 folder-name
[07:22] <hozano> Hi folks. How can I remove a specified HAL information? The automount do not get mount my USB drive.
[07:22] <nucco> flamekebab --sorry...textreplacement messed that up
[07:22] <unforcer> Hey, I have friend and his got a problem with tg3 module and Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM5906M Fast Ethernet PCI Express (rev 02), running hp 6715s @  gutsy x86_64? anybody with the same problem?
[07:22] <scag> Where is the laptop's battery information stored? in /proc?
[07:22] <krzysiek> ubuntu-pl
[07:22] <nucco> flamekebab: try this: chmod -R 777 folder-name
[07:22] <princess^> how can i join in undernet?
[07:23] <LjL> princess^: /server servername
[07:23] <LacusOdii> Just installed 7.04 on my macbook pro, its like a breath of fresh air. UI is so much faster.
[07:23] <rpj8> How do I check which motherboard I'm specifically using?
[07:23] <nucco> is it just me, or does princess* sound like a bot? :)
[07:23] <tech0007> nucco...that's what i'm afraid of...thanks
[07:23] <nucco> rpj8: check the packaging :)
[07:23] <princess^> and what servername should i put how can i write it
[07:24] <rpj8> nucco: Or, how do I check from the cli.
[07:24] <acollins> does anyone know the name of the podcast/youtube app based on mozilla? "Revolution TV" or something like that?
[07:24] <nucco> tech0007: it's still quite usable with vesa though.
[07:24] <Kr0ntab> rpj8, yeah you'lll probably have to look at the motherboard to see if it has any labling.  but if yer just trying to get something working in linux, "lspci" will list a number of helpful items regarding chipsets and devices on the pci bus.
[07:25] <princess^> LjL: how i write the server about undernet?
[07:25] <nucco> rpj8: you can't actually "identify" the motherboard though.
[07:25] <Ashfire908> how do i restart gnome-panel
[07:25] <LjL> princess^: how do i know? look it up on google. this is an Ubuntu support channel.
[07:25] <hozano> How do I remove the data used in automount actions?
[07:25] <princess^> ty
[07:25] <Dialntone> democracyplayer is really cool
[07:25] <dryrot> how do I remap my middle mouse button to my left mouse button (my laptop's left mouse button is broken)
[07:25] <nucco> hozano: gnome-panel (in a terminal)
[07:26] <Dialntone> but it crashes all the time
[07:26] <surface> Dialntone u mean miro?
[07:26] <surface> Dialntone, exactly
[07:26] <Dialntone> no
[07:26] <nickname632> Hello all, Is it posible to install Ubuntu from a USB flash drive?
[07:26] <nickname632> or usb pen drive
[07:26] <surface> Dialntone, they turn into miro already
[07:26] <Dialntone> it crashes linux is the cause of its crashing bad coding
[07:26] <surface> http://www.downloadsquad.com/2007/03/12/democracy-player-becomes-miro/
[07:26] <nucco> Dialntone, surface is right. democracyplayer is now called miro
[07:26] <nickname632> !usb
[07:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:26] <txoof> does anyone know of a macro application that can be set to do things like click on certain dialog boxes, or applications from inside X?
[07:26] <Dialntone> hehe okay
[07:26] <nickname632> !install-usb
[07:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about install-usb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:27] <LjL> !install > nickname632    (nickname632, see the private message from Ubotu)
[07:27] <LjL> !msgthebot > nickname632    (nickname632, see the private message from Ubotu)
[07:27] <tech0007> nucco....but no 3d accel...it sucks
[07:27] <Dialntone> i thought you were talking about something else
[07:27] <surface> Dialntone, because backend is java and python
[07:27] <Kr0ntab> Dialntone, democracyplayer recently has been renamed to Miro... as the name has negative connotations in many countries and demographics.
[07:27] <Dialntone> :O
[07:27] <Dialntone> i must get the cooler version of it
[07:27] <nucco> tech0007: I'm using an old nvidia riva TNT 8mb for that same reason :)
[07:27] <acollins> ah yes, democracyplayer that was it! lucky :-)
[07:28] <LacusOdii> theres an extension for Firefox that lets you play youtube videos in a player too
[07:28] <LacusOdii> have not tried it yet however
[07:28] <hozano> nucco: are you sure? gnome-panel is the top panel with application shortcuts?
[07:28] <surface> it looks cool
[07:28] <nucco> hozano: yes, and it doesn't hurt to try that either.
[07:29] <surface> i heard they use firefox-dev to build miro
[07:29] <Dialntone> :( i can't find it
[07:29] <surface> use either xine or gstream but not mplayer to play the videos
[07:29] <LacusOdii> What is t?e Ubuntu window manager and how do I change the settings manually.
[07:29] <nucco> hozano: gnome-panel is both the top panel and the bottom panel. if they disappeared or crashed, run it.
[07:29] <jroes> anyone know why I can't boot from a usb stick that I've used syslinux on?
[07:29] <nucco> LacusOdii: what kind of settings?
[07:30] <ubuntu> i need someone that has used dban before and is familure with it
[07:30] <jroes> I tried putting grub on it and it worked fine
[07:30] <Dialntone> i can't find micro aka democracy player
[07:30] <riaal> I need a SATA Controller (PCI) card for my filserver, what shall I buy? Is there anyone that will work out of the box?
[07:30] <brobostigon> miro
[07:30] <LacusOdii> I am using focus-follows-mouse and I want it to not raise windows unless I click on the title bar
[07:30] <surface> miro
[07:30] <surface> www.getmiro.com
[07:31] <surface> i prefer download helper plugin for firefox
[07:31] <ubuntu> i need someone that has used dban before and is familure with it
[07:31] <nucco> LacusOdii: System > Preferences > Windows
[07:31] <nucco> ubuntu: you mean debian?
[07:31] <LacusOdii> it is not an option on the menu, but I bet the config file lets me do it
[07:31] <ubuntu> nucco:  no i mean dban
[07:32] <txoof> I'm starting a VNC session and I would like gnome to be the default environment.  What do I need to add to the ~/.vnc/xstartup script to enable gnome?
[07:32] <nucco> ubuntu: he he. never heard of it. good luck.
[07:32] <Jarvid> weee
[07:32] <ubuntu> nucco:  google it
[07:32] <ubuntu> i need someone that has used dban before and is familure with it
[07:32] <surface> txcoof : gnome-session if i am not mistaken
[07:32] <nucco> ubuntu: even if I do, I can't help you...
[07:32] <osmosis> how do I update my locale?  perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
[07:32] <hozano> nucco: where (in gnome-panel) can i retrieve the automount informations ?
[07:33] <nucco> hozano: automount??? I don't quite understand that...
[07:33] <nucco> hozano: usually, system monitor has information about mounted filesystems.
[07:33] <Jarvid> I have an HP photosmart C3140 all in one printer and I want to install
[07:33] <aguitel> how install plugin java?
[07:33] <Jarvid> plz halp
[07:34] <Jarvid> dpkg teh java
[07:34] <ubuntu> aguitel:  go to add/remove and search java
[07:34] <nucco> Jarvid: which version of ubuntu?
[07:34] <ubuntu> i need someone that has used dban before and is familure with it
[07:34] <Jarvid> 7.04
[07:34] <Jarvid> feisty
[07:34] <aguitel> thanks ubuntu
[07:34] <nucco> Jarvid: plug the printer and hope that there are drivers available
[07:34] <hozano> nucco: I am interested in retrive the device informations used by automount.
[07:34] <Jarvid> lolk
[07:34] <surface> hozano, automount usb fresh drive? should be done by gnome-volume-manager
[07:34] <ernz> Without referring me to another channel, would someone please be able to help me with a small phpMyAdmin issue I am having?
[07:34] <Jarvid> beryl is awesome
[07:35] <surface> har
[07:35] <Jarvid> peace out
[07:35] <p0seidon> could anybody please help me? i tried many times to install ubuntu with desktop- and alternative-cd. every time the program freezed at the installation of software at 6%. please help me!
[07:35] <txoof> surface: hmm, no dice.  The xterm starts as does a few other things that are in xstarup, but I don't get a gnome environment.  Any other ideas?
[07:35] <nucco> hozano: open system monitor, and see 'file systems' tab
[07:35] <LacusOdii> I was using beryl for while but had too many problems
[07:35] <dryrot> how do I remap my middle mouse button to my left mouse button (my laptop's left mouse button is broken)
[07:35] <nucco> ernz: we can try.... but we have to hear the question first :)
[07:35] <surface> hozano, device info? try lshw
[07:35] <surface> txoof, gnome-session & ?
[07:35] <hozano> nucco: my ubuntu do not get mount a specific usb fresh drive. I change the mount_point accidentaly...
[07:36] <ubuntu> p0seidon:  reburn it u might have a bad burn
[07:36] <nucco> hozano: /etc/fstab
[07:36] <IhateCLI> nucco: Hello again, is there anything I can do if I don't like the colors OOo gives me?
[07:36] <txoof> surface: yeah, I have /usr/bin/gnome-session & but the process doesn't start.  Any idea where it logs to?
[07:36] <ubuntu> i need someone that has used dban before and is familure with it
[07:36] <txoof> I'm using vnc4server by the way.
[07:36] <nucco> hozano: that's where information about filesystems that will be mounted on boot is kept. edit with care.
[07:36] <ernz> nucco: lol - Cheers, I changed my root password to something more secure and now I get the error page "#1045 - Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO) " whenever I try to access the phpMyAdmin tool. Is there a way of changing the login it uses?
[07:36] <hozano> nucco: fstab do not contains usb informations...
[07:37] <IhateCLI> nucco: Oh, there is.
[07:37] <IhateCLI> nucco: Sorry to bother you.
[07:37] <hozano> nucco: usb drives are mounted by automount using HAL
[07:37] <bayar> hello
[07:38] <kitche> ernz: well it's not using the root passowrd as it states
[07:38] <surface> txoof some vnc server uses xstartup at /etc/
[07:38] <nucco> IhateCLI: right-click the chart
[07:38] <bayar> how should a do to install glib
[07:38] <dryrot> ernz: i think your system root password and your mysql root password are two different things
[07:38] <rpj8> alright, other question, How do I switch from mono to stereo? Apparently I'm only getting mono sound from my card right now
[07:38] <nucco> ernz: are you referring to your mysql root password?
[07:38] <ernz> kitche: Hrmmm, I'm a little of a noobie here. What do you reckon might fix that?
[07:39] <ernz> nucco: yes.
[07:39] <txoof> surface: the vnc server is definitely reading the local version.  Other things that I add in there start just fine.  I can add twm to it and it starts OK.  I just don't have a clue how to start gnome.
[07:39] <kitche> ernz: telling it to use password :)
[07:39] <nucco> hozano: if a usb drive is giving you problems, you can create an fstab entry for usb drives in general.
[07:39] <danich> trying to copy files to a partition on a separate drive. when attempt this it fails. getting properties on the drive, then permissions, tells me I am not the owner. how do i take ownership of this drive/partitions?
[07:39] <ernz> kitche: Tell the phpMyAdmin tool to use the password? How?
[07:39] <nucco> ernz: you have to read the mysql manuals, for information on how to reset the root password.
[07:39] <ernz> kitche: Is there a config file I can mod or something?
[07:39] <Flare183> How do i configure Kontact to read and write my hotmail
[07:39] <Gin> wwhat video format should I rip to from a dvd to get the highest quality possible? because I want a single file video
[07:39] <surface> txoof, u need to check to make sure it uses the correct xstartup
[07:40] <surface> autofs? didn't try that before
[07:40] <kitche> ernz: no clue but it should have asked you to login with username and password if it's setup correctly
[07:40] <surface> my usb drive usually auto mount  by gnome-volume-manager
[07:40] <ernz> nucco: I know what the password is. I just want phpMyAdmin to start USING that password. I'm stupid, I know.
[07:40] <princess^> g
[07:40] <foug> is there a program to make music in Ubuntu? Similar to guitar pro (not frooty loops)
[07:40] <danich> how to take ownership of a volume so I can use it please?
[07:41] <nucco> ernz: you don't need to tell phpmyadmin anything. if you changed your root password, all you have to do is type it next time you login to phpmyadmin
[07:41] <txoof> surface: I am positive that it is using the correct xstartup.  If I add the twm line twm starts, if I comment it out, twm does not start.  I can add an xterm line and xterm starts, etc.
[07:41] <rpj8> alright, other question, How do I switch from mono to stereo? Apparently I'm only getting mono sound from my card right now
[07:41] <ernz> nucco: You would have thought so, but I don't get prompted for any password or login or anything. Just an error message straight away.
[07:42] <rpj8> definitely
[07:42] <hozano> nucco: ok. I will try it. But using usb informations in fstab, it will work with "auto mount"
[07:42] <surface> txoof, maybe exec gnome-session &
[07:42] <danich> does anyone even see me typing?
[07:42] <kitche> danich: yes
[07:42] <danich> how do i take ownership of a partition? I can look at it, but can't use it. property:permissions just says I'm not the owner
[07:43] <surface> danich, what do u mean ownership?
[07:43] <ernz> nucco: I even tried deleting the /var/www/phpMyAdmin/ directory and reinstalling a fresh version. Same error. :S
[07:43] <surface> danich, sudo
[07:43] <danich> try to copy files to this partition. fails. get properties on it, says I can't change them as I am not the owner
[07:43] <danich> okay... sudo what?
[07:43] <jrib> danich: what filesystem?
[07:44] <surface> danich, sudo cp
[07:44] <pthomas> Hi, I am wondering how can I make a backup of drive that is shared on a windows network and connected directly to a windows pc, and put the backup on this linux pc, the drive is accessed via the windows network through linux.
[07:44] <danich> ntfs
[07:44] <jrib> !ntfs > danich (read the private message from ubotu)
[07:44] <karamazov> hi who look the files (ex: .files) ?
[07:44] <jrib> !ntfs-3g > danich (read the private message from ubotu)
[07:44] <jrib> karamazov: huh?
[07:44] <surface> hi mypapit
[07:45] <mypapit> hi surface
[07:45] <Dialntone> whats a great program that for linux thats' sort of like cpanel
[07:45] <Billy> I have installed k9copy, but I do not rember how to get it to back up my dvds to xvid avi files, so I can copy them to my mvid box
[07:45] <Dialntone> a server manager' where u can install programs from fansatico
[07:45] <karamazov> this is complicated
[07:46] <Dialntone> is there' a free alternative to cpanel
[07:46] <nucco> ernz: wht does the error message say?
[07:46] <ernz> nucco: "#1045 - Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)"
[07:46] <Billy> !avi
[07:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:47] <codeshah> Hey guys, I'm using tilda... but I can't scroll up on it ... any ideas?
[07:47] <nucco> ernz: can you connect with mysql CLI client?
[07:48] <jonnyrboy> hey has anyone had trouble with entering static IPs?
[07:48] <ernz> nucco: Yep
[07:49] <web_knows> anyone around already using gusty gibbon (7.10) ?
[07:49] <jonnyrboy> yeah, beta
[07:49] <nucco> ernz: it should be a permission issue, not an issue with phpmyadmin. you need to edit mysql.conf (or so. can't remember) to allow login with passwords... you understand?
[07:49] <karamazov> I have not java and i'm like install his
[07:50] <web_knows> jonnyrboy, for how long now? and .. how is it going so far?
[07:50] <jonnyrboy> i've had the beta installed for a few days, not too shabby
[07:50] <ernz> nucco: I see sorta, but if MySQL is running, and I can login to it using other apps, isn't it a phpmyadmin issue?
[07:50] <nucco> ernz: try installing mysql-admin (from synaptic) see if that works.
[07:50] <ubuntujay123> hi al lhow is it going
[07:50] <jonnyrboy> i like the search entry
[07:50] <ernz> nucco: I got that installed and it works perfectly.
[07:51] <ernz> nucco: just phpmyadmin whinging about that password. And it doesn't even hint how to login with a password.
[07:51] <nucco> ernz: check privileges. I'm almost sure it has something to do with sockets...
[07:51] <jrib> !fr | karamazov
[07:51] <ubotu> karamazov: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:51] <karamazov> how to show the hidden files? (.files)
[07:52] <wackamole> codeshah: rightclick tilde console>prefs>scrolling make sure scrollbar is enabled & the scrollback value is set high enough
[07:52] <jonnyrboy> since version 6, i've been having problems setting up a static ip on ubuntu.  I have to play with the settings for a while before ubuntu picks up the network.  any ideas what it could be?
[07:52] <web_knows> jonnyrboy, yeah, it's cool. used to use with gentoo and tried to use it with 7.04. no success. nice to hear that it's coming default on 7.10
[07:52] <jrib> karamazov: ctrl-h
[07:52] <nucco> ernz: you got a second machine you could try from? use a web interface, and mysqladm on it, connect to the server in question over a network
[07:52] <codeshah> wackamole, i did that . but the scrollbar on the right just stays fixed . I increased it to 100000 even
[07:52] <jonnyrboy> yeah, i'm pretty excited about this version...whoo hoo
[07:52] <MilkToastHoney> Howdy all! First time I joined #ubuntu, gee, it's 1187 users online! I really surprised.
[07:52] <Lorvija> Hey... if i need a server that will run AMP(to run some pretty critical scripts) and it would also be used to browse company intranet would the best choice be ubuntu server + gnome or plain ubuntu and install AMP manually? or does ubuntu server edition have gnome installed by default?
[07:52] <web_knows> jonnyrboy, also, did you upgrade it from 7.04?
[07:52] <web_knows> or had it installed from scracth?
[07:52] <karamazov> jrib thanks ;)
[07:53] <jonnyrboy> no, i downloaded the alternative iso
[07:53] <IndyGunFreak> MilkToastHoney: thats pretty average..... i've saw it get close to 1400 before
[07:53] <ernz> nucco: Not an option here I'm afraid :(
[07:53] <AutoMatriX> hi folks, I just got a MioC210 GPS ... :s  I cannot connect to it with ubuntu feisty ... any ideas ?
[07:53] <MilkToastHoney> Awesome!!
[07:53] <bayar> i try to install glib-2.14.1.tar.gz
[07:53] <Pici> Lorvija: It really doesnt matter, they both will end up with the same packages. And no, server has no Xserver installed.
[07:53] <MilkToastHoney> 1400!
[07:53] <web_knows> err, scratch
[07:53] <j01101111sh> Can someone here help me with a shell scripting problem?
[07:53] <dryrot> how do I remap my middle mouse button to my left mouse button (my laptop's left mouse button is broken)
[07:54] <Lorvija> Pici okay. How about the updating thing... should it be updated daily/weekly or even more rarely?
[07:54] <karamazov> sorry, I am French and I do not arrive has to go on the French server
[07:54] <Lorvija> (whats sufficient basically..)
[07:54] <jonnyrboy> since version 6, i've been having problems setting up a static ip on ubuntu.  I have to play with the settings for a while before ubuntu picks up the network.  any ideas what it could be?
[07:54] <aurelie> bonjour
[07:55] <Pici> Lorvija: That really depends on if you think your critical scripts would be broken by an update.  I'd go with once a day usually thougj.
[07:55] <aurelie> j'ai un disque dur avec linux et un autre (bootable) avec windows XP
[07:55] <karamazov> 
[07:55] <karamazov> but that went, thank you
[07:55] <jrib> !fr | aurelie
[07:55] <karamazov> aurelie, cest anglais ici ;)
[07:55] <aurelie> scuse me
[07:55] <ubotu> aurelie: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:55] <AutoMatriX> aurelie: try /join ubuntu-fr
[07:55] <karamazov> aurelie si tu as un probleme je peux t'aider pour certaine chose
[07:56] <Lorvija> Pici okay. can i set ubuntu update automatically like daily and if restart is required it would do that also automatically?
[07:56] <Pici> Lorvija: No. Restarts are manual.
[07:56] <karamazov> aurelie tu es la?
[07:57] <Lorvija> Pici okay... as this server should basically "just work" tm without any user response needed..
[07:57] <Pici> Lorvija: Indeed it should.
[07:57] <aurelie> karamazov, je suis sur -fr
[07:57] <karamazov> comment tu as fait?
[07:57] <j01101111sh> can someone help me with a shell scripting thing?
[07:58] <aurelie> karamazov, pour ?
[07:58] <kitche> j01101111sh: what shell scripting thing since that's above the level that most here can do
[07:58] <Lorvija> Pici well i mean that it wouldn't have any admin who'd look over it so that's why trying to figure out if those restarts for example could be manual or if it really requires someone to manually do something... locally or over internet...
[07:58] <nucco> ernz: it's gotta be a mysql issue. disable the mysql password, and use phpmyadmin to set it.
[07:59] <jrib> !ask | j01101111sh
[07:59] <ubotu> j01101111sh: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:59] <karamazov> aurelie, pour entrer sur le chat francais
[07:59] <Flare183> How do i configure Kontact to read and write my to and from my windows live mail?
[07:59] <aurelie> karamazov, t'es un n00b toi ? ^^ tu fais /join #ubuntu-fr
[07:59] <kasper> does anyone know how to start xorg/gdm before other minor process start (to speed up boot)?
[08:00] <nucco> jrib, you probably have no idea how annoying it is to have someone make a "bot" give you adivse.
[08:00] <nucco> advise*
[08:00] <ernz> nucco: AHAH! Nice one! No more error message. OK. So now, how can I set the password with phpMyAdmin?
[08:00] <jrib> nucco: ?
[08:00] <nucco> ernz: yes.
[08:00] <ernz> nucco: Where would I perform this witchcraftery?
[08:00] <anahata> hi
[08:01] <nucco> jrib: I said its better to tell the person yourself to ask the question, rather than make the robot tell them.
[08:01] <nucco> jrib: I'm speaking from experience.
[08:01] <nucco> ernz: a sec, lemme check my own phpmyadmin install
[08:01] <anahata> i'm having trouble figuring out how to check the md5 sum of a xubuntu .iso i just downloaded
[08:01] <dryrot> at least we don't argue about karma in here like in #perl
[08:01] <ernz> nucco: Awesome! Thanks
[08:01] <anahata> i don't understand the instructions on the help files the xubuntu room just gave me, if i did i wouldn't be here in the first place :/
[08:02] <Lorvija> btw whats this - and + thing in front of replies? (:
[08:02] <nucco> ernz: welcome. it's in privileges btw.
[08:02] <mrspinx> hi everyone
[08:02] <Ashfire908> is there a way to find a computer on a network for using in logging into it? (like using user@computer1 instead of user@192.168.1.1)
[08:02] <nucco> ernz: after logging in, just look at the default page, and look for a link named "privileges"
[08:02] <basix> i've booted off ubuntu 6.06LTS live. now i want to mount an nfs export. but i guess the portmap daemon doesn't exist on live? what do i do? i just need to mount the export and copy some files off the client machine.
[08:03] <ernz> nucco: I see that. Why are there 3 roots? :\
[08:03] <nucco> ernz: corresponding to *how* you log in.
[08:03] <mrspinx> how can i see what pocesses are using /dev/video ? (i thought it was fuser... but i don't remember the prams to it)
[08:03] <mrspinx> the manpage isn't the most informative either :-/
[08:03] <nucco> ernz: one for CLI, one for socket etc...
[08:03] <jrib> nucco: there's no reason for someone to get annoyed... that's the whole purpose of the bot.  Though I do have an alias for stuff like !ask and !enter
[08:03] <ernz> nucco: 127.0.0.1, ErnzPC, localhost. I edit all?
[08:03] <AutoMatriX> hi folks, I just got a MioC210 GPS ... I cannot connect to it with ubuntu feisty ... device seems to be locked
[08:04] <nucco> jrib: people who do that sort of thing are usually newbies, they don't know anybetter yet. that's why they get angry...
[08:04] <nucco> jrib: "like I did with ernz, when he came with his phpmyadmin problem"
[08:04] <kitche> nucco: you have no idea how annoying it is to say the same things over and over like a bot anyways :)
[08:04] <zsz> mrspinx, lsof | grep /dev/video
[08:05] <nucco> ernz: yes,
[08:05] <Ashfire908> can i find a system by hostname?
[08:05] <nucco> ernz: make the permissions apply to them all...
[08:05] <ernz> nucco: I swear dude - I could have your babies.
[08:05] <nucco> ernz: you may also see that, phpmyadmin would have worked if you accessed it via one or the other of those three names.
[08:05] <mrspinx> zsz, no need for the pipe, or grep - but thanks -- that was wat i was looking for :)
[08:05] <jrib> nucco: the bot informs, it doesn't reprimand but we are getting offtopic
[08:05] <nucco> ernz: that's if you were a girl right? :)
[08:06] <nucco> jrib: yea... history already. thanks for not getting annoyed yourself.
[08:06] <ernz> nucco: I have had so much CR*P from smart arses in other rooms who keep shoving manuals in my face telling me to get to the right room and "RTFM". You have made a geek very happy this evening my friend.
[08:06] <ernz> nucco: I am not a girl, no.........But I will still gladly endure the pain of childbirth in return for your help.
[08:06] <Ashfire908> can i find a system on a network by it's hostname?
[08:06] <nucco> ernz: he he, that's what I was trying to tell jrib... but we weren't understanding each other :)
[08:06] <nucco> ernz: lol
[08:07] <ernz> jrib has helped me on many occasion also
[08:07] <nucco> ernz: meanwhile, gotta go offline now... my router was acting crazy, so I took it off, and plugged myself straight in... need to restore that old setup before someone has my head for breakfast tomorrow :)
[08:07] <ernz> Ahhhhhhh - Well cheers for your help dude
[08:08] <hacksystems> helpI cannot be connected to undernet and takes much.
[08:08] <ernz> Meanwhile, I'm gonna go to ##php and punch someone in the face for talking smack to a noob.
[08:08] <nucco> ernz: but you do understand what I was trying to say right? bye anyway, and cheers jrib.
[08:08] <nucco> bye all, l8r
[08:08] <LjL> hacksystems: uhm, and what does that have to do with ubuntu?
[08:08] <what_if> odd request, can someone go to http://69.178.110.102/ and tell me if my webpage is working :)
[08:08] <ernz> Nucco: Aye. Sorted. night
[08:08] <ubuntu_> Hi all, is there a way to burn my files and preserve permissions while in LiveCD?
[08:09] <nucco> what_if: not working.
[08:09] <anahata> can anyone help me with this md5 stuff?
[08:09] <dryrot> anahata: what commands are you typing
[08:09] <anahata> it has always been hard for me and i still don't get it, and i can't use ubuntu until i figure out if my download is accurate
[08:09] <LjL> anahata, if you just boot from the CD, you'll find a "Verify CD" menu option. you can use that i think.
[08:09] <W_McL> what_if, not working, no connection to server
[08:09] <anahata> no commands, i'm checking my file from windows
[08:09] <what_if> ok, thanks :)
[08:09] <dryrot> anahata: are you downloading a ISO then burning it to a cd ?
[08:09] <anahata> maybe i should go to a windows room til i figure this out
[08:09] <anahata> ohh
[08:09] <anahata> yes
[08:10] <kitche> anahata: well get the md5 gui program for windows and check the md5 with it
[08:10] <LjL> anahata, which part are you stuck on? do you have md5sum installed? have you run it against the file?
[08:10] <anahata> i'm downloading, and i want to burn to a cd, but i want to check the md5 first
[08:10] <dryrot> anahata: are you using windows or ubuntu ?
[08:10] <anahata> windows
[08:10] <mdr> If an application  says it can't find  OpenSSL and i've verified openssl is installed through the synamps package manager and I've pointed it to all the directories that  OpenSSL has do i need to manually install it
[08:10] <hacksystems> jajajaj not it, but I need aid.
[08:10] <anahata> i think i did it right this time, the last program i had said they didn't match, but this FastSum just calculated it and it matches the one online
[08:10] <mdr> i think he's on windows running the ubuntu cd from windows
[08:10] <LjL> anahata: just get md5sum.exe for windows, and run "md5sum filename.iso". if the resulting md5 matches the published one... there you are.
[08:11] <jrib> mdr: what application?
[08:11] <dryrot> anahata: there must be a some windows program that will md5sum a file, i have no idea.  or you could just burn the iso to a blank cd and quit worrying about it
[08:11] <mdr> remote desktop client for linux
[08:11] <mdr> rdesktop
[08:11] <jrib> !md5 > anahata (read the private message from ubotu)
[08:11] <john_> c8240ce052987923a31e3a42f016b1f5
[08:11] <anahata> LjL: from a command line, then?
[08:11] <Ashfire908> can i find a system on a network by it's hostname? like if it's name is comp1, can i find it's ip or whatever?
[08:12] <Mr_Giraffe> has anybody had any trouble getting the serialmonkey rt2x00 drivers working?
[08:12] <W_McL> anahata, you don't necessary need to check the cd image, you also can check the cd fom itself, when you're starting it
[08:12] <LjL> anahata: yeah. to get to a command line in windows, well, i think you can do Start / Run / "cmd".
[08:12] <anahata> yeah, like i said, i don't understand the instructions on those pages
[08:12] <W_McL> anahata, there's an option in the cd menu
[08:12] <LjL> anahata, we'd like to know *which part* you don't understand. i can't believe you can't understand a word.
[08:13] <anahata> let me try what LjL said... i was using some md5.exe from a GUI and it said they didn't match
[08:13] <mdr> Anybody?
[08:13] <anahata> well first, i think the VerifyISOHowto page is for linux
[08:13] <ubuntu_> hi all, can I just add content of / to DVD to back it up?
[08:14] <LjL> !verify | the second link is for Windows
[08:14] <ubotu> the second link is for Windows: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[08:14] <Ashfire908> mdr whihc protocal
[08:14] <jrib> mdr: you installed it from the repos?
[08:14] <mdr> installed what?
[08:14] <osmosis> what do I apt-get for the man command ?
[08:14] <mdr> GCC and OpenSSL were isntalled through Synaptic Package manager
[08:14] <mdr> dont thiink rdesktop is avail through packagemanager
[08:14] <SlimeyPete> osmosis: man is installed by default
[08:14] <LjL> osmosis: nothing. you *have* a 'man' command.
[08:14] <anahata> i am reinsalling md5.exe so i can recreate what i did
[08:14] <Ashfire908> osmosis, it comes with ubuntu
[08:14] <osmosis> SlimeyPete: not with debootstrap
[08:14] <mdr> oh hmmm
[08:14] <jussi01> !info rdesktop
[08:14] <ubotu> rdesktop: RDP client for Windows NT/2000 Terminal Server. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.0-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 119 kB, installed size 444 kB
[08:14] <mdr> syntatkcp manager syas it is installed
[08:15] <LjL> mdr, don't "think" packages are not available, *search* for packages.
[08:15] <Ashfire908> mdr: what are you trying to do
[08:15] <mdr> i just did ljl :P
[08:15] <osmosis> i didnt use the standard installer.  how do I get man
[08:15] <jussi01> !tab | mdr
[08:15] <ubotu> mdr: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[08:15] <mdr> just have to figure out where it is
[08:16] <osmosis> If I install phpmyadmin, and it pulls down php5 dependencies with it, how do I remove it all ?
[08:16] <LjL> osmosis: sudo apt-get install man-db
[08:16] <LjL> osmosis: sudo apt-get autoremove
[08:16] <osmosis> LjL: cool
[08:17] <Ashfire908> mdr: RDP, RDPv5, and VNC are avaible from the built-in Terminal Server Client.
[08:17] <mdr> krdc?
[08:18] <mdr> wee if thats so and it works prob #1 will be solved
[08:18] <osmosis> LjL: hmm...no autoremove in dapper.
[08:18] <Ashfire908> mdr: for rdesktop, use the rdesktop program/command
[08:18] <LjL> osmosis: then you just can't (unless you've used aptitude to install it)
[08:18] <nickrud> osmosis: then install it with aptitude , it had autoremove ealier
[08:18] <titun> i want to buy a bluetooth mouse and keyboard set for my laptop, how do i know which brand is most compatible with ubuntu? is there a list?
[08:18] <LjL> osmosis: you could also cat /var/log/dpkg.log to see what actually got installed, if you don't have it written down
[08:19] <Ashfire908> mdr: rdesktop  is RDP
[08:19] <Dr_willis> given the disasters ive had with bluetooth under windows... :) im scared to even try them under linux
[08:19] <Ashfire908> mdr: use the Terminal Server Client
[08:19] <mdr> yeah ashfire. sorry I did not know there was a built in TSC
[08:19] <mdr> i just started using this about 30 minuets ago ;)
[08:19] <Ashfire908> mdr: Applications -> Internet -> Terminal Server Client
[08:19] <mdr> havent had time to snoop around everywhere
[08:19] <mdr> yeah. thanks
[08:20] <titun> Dr_willis: really! do bluetooth devices give problems? i have no idea about this
[08:20] <anahata> i got bad command or file name
[08:20] <Dr_willis> titun,  it could of been my specific bluetooth thing under windows was totally IDIOTIC in its drivers. :)
[08:20] <anahata> after typing "md5 xubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso" into a dos window
[08:20] <titun> ah
[08:20] <Dr_willis> titun,  Id hope any others would be better..  :)
[08:20] <LjL> anahata, you certainly must "cd" to the right directory - the one where you downloaded md5sum.exe - first
[08:20] <Dr_willis> titun,  lets say it pays to research I guess. :)
[08:20] <LjL> anahata: are you sure it's called "md5"? i thought it was "md5sum".
[08:21] <titun> ia there a list of compatible bluetooth devices for ubuntu?
[08:21] <quaji> Hi all. Does anyone know of an image viewer that allows showing full screen images while ignoring the ascpect ratio? (I.E stretching height and width independently) ?
[08:22] <mdr> hmm saved passwords dont seem to work
[08:22] <mdr> but at least it connects
[08:22] <anahata> that's what i typed: md5sum actually
[08:22] <nickrud> quaji: there's an old app called qiv I think it did that
[08:22] <Miguel> Hi all
[08:23] <Miguel> I need to unrar a .r00 .r001 .r002 file ...
[08:23] <LjL> anahata: well make sure you 'cd' to the right directory. you can probably also just drap and drop the md5sum.exe icon *into* the "DOS" window.
[08:23] <what_if> could someone please try to access http://69.178.110.102/ again, think I fixed it :)
[08:23] <anahata> i'm not a complete newb at computers, i just get severely stuck on simple things once in a while
[08:23] <Miguel> Works what_if
[08:23] <IndyGunFreak> !unrar
[08:23] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[08:23] <LjL> what_if: it works
[08:23] <Miguel> !info unrar-free
[08:23] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[08:23] <what_if> LjL: OMG... thank you !!
[08:25] <Miguel> IndyGunFreak, it can unrar .r00 .r01 .r02 .rxx files
[08:25] <Miguel> *it can't
[08:25] <anahata> LjL: thank you, worked like a charm, only thing is it brings up the same gui i had already tried, it's executing now
[08:25] <IndyGunFreak> Miguel: i reall;y don't know, i dont mess with rar
[08:25] <anahata> it said to paste in the md5 code, which i did off the md5 html page from the ubuntu site
[08:25] <anahata> then said to browse to the file, which i did......
[08:25] <AutoMatriX> hi folks, I just got a MioC210 GPS aka /dev/ttyUSB0 ... but I cannot connect to it with ubuntu feisty ... device seems to be locked HELP please
[08:25] <DArio> salve
[08:26] <eltese> How do I change my refresh rating and resolution with nvidia 8800 GTS ?
[08:26] <DArio> sono un utente winzoz e come tale ho intenzione di passare a ubuntu
[08:26] <IndyGunFreak> AutoMatriX: my GPS dvice is one of the few reasons I have a 20gig partition for XP
[08:26] <Konam> hi
[08:26] <DArio> e come tutti credo di avere dei dubbi
[08:26] <LjL> !it | dario
[08:26] <ubotu> dario: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:26] <Konam> how do i say to the feisty livecd installer to not format the partition i set as /home
[08:26] <Konam> ?
[08:26] <anahata> now the screen is freezing up lol
[08:27] <Miguel> How can I unrar .r00 .r01 .r02 .rxx files?
[08:27] <Dialntone> i am having trouble install that micr (democracyplayer) -- and its not letting me install the tarball version, it say' import error, is there' a way i can update the package manager right away
[08:27] <AutoMatriX> IndyGunFreak: tried to unlock that thing but does not work ...
[08:27] <wii> wii
[08:27] <AutoMatriX> IndyGunFreak: any idea wher I can find mioMap 3.2 ????
[08:27] <IndyGunFreak> no
[08:27] <mdr> Browsing SMB - browinsg Smb:// shows all windows computers that have file sharing enabled but double clicking on a computer does not bring up authentication dialog. Does anythign special have to be confgiured?
[08:27] <Konam> can someone help me please, i'm in the midle of the instalattion
[08:28] <Dialntone> no me first
[08:28] <jrib> !rar > Miguel (read the private message from ubotu)
[08:28] <Dialntone> im in the middle of doing nothing
[08:28] <Miguel> Wow, it unrarred using terminal
[08:28] <Konam> how do i say to the feisty livecd installer to not format the partition i set as /home?
[08:28] <Miguel> Sorry for bothers, still learning :)
[08:28] <Dialntone> where can i update the add/remove programs?
[08:28] <gunjan> hi, how do i extract a substring from a command output and store it to a variable using shell commands?
[08:29] <mdr> Applications -> Add and Remove?
[08:29] <tsukasa_> is there a good program to deal with editing text files. large text files
[08:29] <tsukasa_> like oh say
[08:29] <tsukasa_> 4GB text files
[08:29] <Black_Phoenix> Hey guys, is there anything I can do for bluetooth mouse support? It does not work in Ubuntu for me
[08:30] <anahata> lol the md5 utility keeps crashing
[08:30] <LjL> gunjan: can be done in many ways, best would depend on what exactly you're trying to achieve.
[08:30] <nickrud> tsukasa_: emacs is about the only thing I use reliably on really big files (few hundred megs is the largest I've done, though)
[08:30] <jrib> Konam: I would not use a separate /home in the installer and then edit my fstab afterwards
[08:31] <Dr_willis> nickrud,  largest yovue done on purpose. :)
[08:31] <nickrud> Dr_willis: true :)
[08:31] <anahata> every time i run md5, it tries to dial out and then crashes, whether i give permission or not to dial out
[08:31] <gunjan> LjL: say rwho| grep username gives me "user     system   date time".. i wannt find the system part and store it to a variable
[08:31] <Dr_willis>  vi /proc/kcore  is always.. fun. :)
[08:31] <Ashfire908> can i find a system on a network by it's hostname?
[08:32] <LjL> gunjan: VARIABLE=$(rwho | awk ' { print $2 } ')
[08:32] <Black_Phoenix> well? anything on bluetooth mouses?
[08:32] <Dr_willis> Ashfire908,   windows can do it that way because itsusing the samba machine names. :) not sure of a way to do it eaially under linux. Other then using some samba browsers
[08:32] <blkdg> hi, i used edubuntu live 6.10 and when i did gcompris would crash.  i was given a fix, but the sticky note that i used has lonce since vanished.  does any one know what the command is to launch gcompris in edubuntu 6.10 ?
[08:32] <mdr> Browsing SMB - browinsg Smb:// shows all windows computers that have file sharing enabled but double clicking on a computer does not bring up authentication dialog. Does anything special have to be configured to get SMB to navigagte beyond the networked computers?
[08:33] <titun> come on friends please tell me is there a  list bluetooth compatible mouse/keyboard for ubuntu??
[08:33] <zsz> !hardware | titun
[08:33] <ubotu> titun: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[08:33] <Dr_willis> mdr,  you are using feisty? not gutsy?
[08:33] <Ashfire908> Dr_willis, i want to use rsync to copy some files (rsync uses ssh) and the one computer has a dynamic ip
[08:33] <titun> zsz: thank you :)
[08:33] <gunjan> LjL, thats quite close but the result comes as pcname::0
[08:34] <gunjan> LjL, how do i get the ::0 part out?
[08:34] <wii> how do i stop kget from downloading my files?
[08:34] <Dr_willis> Ashfire908,  this is one reason i always set up my machines with static ip's  and edit the hosts file.
[08:34] <mdr> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-setup-bluetooth-keyboard-and-mouse-in-ubuntu.html
[08:34] <anahata> LjL: i'm uninstalling the other md5 checker (FastSum) in case it's interfering, and restarting, i'll brb!
[08:34] <Dr_willis> Ashfire908,  its possible the dhcp server will assign that machine the same ip time and time again.
[08:34] <mdr> Dr_willis:  correct feisty
[08:34] <Ashfire908> Dr_willis, nope
[08:35] <Dr_willis> mdr,  the shared directories are on windows machines?
[08:35] <mdr> yes
[08:35] <Black_Phoenix> Well? Anything on how to make a mouse work under ubuntu? It's working perfectly fine under Mandriva -_-
[08:35] <mdr> enumerates all 3 windows computers fine
[08:35] <mdr> but navigating to them times outa nd then says it cant find location
[08:35] <Ashfire908> Dr_willis, can i have a script or something link the hostnames with the macs?
[08:35] <Dr_willis> mdr,  ya shouldent have to do much else.. You might want to install the samba package, and peraps some alternative samba browser tools. (i use the samba fuse tool mainly)
[08:35] <mdr> should be bringing up authentication dialog requesting credentials
[08:35] <wii> how do i stop kget from downloading my files?
[08:35] <mdr> okay. thanks. i'll look at package manager
[08:35] <Dr_willis> Ashfire908,  the issue is how to you get their hostname? You can get an Ip list of up machines with nmap easially enough.
[08:36] <blkdg> thanks anyhow
[08:36] <Flare183> How do I make Kontact read and write to my live mail?
[08:37] <Ashfire908> Dr_willis, get the macs and ips, find a mac, and set the host file
[08:37] <nickrud> Dr_willis: I remember you recommending some reading about samba last night, but not what it was (was focused elsewhere). Could you repeat it, please?
[08:37] <mdr> nice wireless dropped
[08:37] <Dr_willis> Ashfire908,  set it to what host? :)  what if 2 machines switched ips .
[08:37] <Ashfire908> Dr_willis, macs don't change
[08:37] <Dr_willis> nickrud,  the samba-doc package has 'using samba' and 2 other books.
[08:37] <nickrud> thanks
[08:38] <Ryandor> hullo
[08:38] <Dialntone> google video> lynn tessa - join me  its' like the best song ever :D
[08:38] <Dr_willis> Ashfire908,  there ya go then. go for it..  No idea how ya get a list of macs actually. :) i just use nmap to get ip's up.
[08:39] <orduek> hi
[08:39] <Ryandor> anyone to help the newb?  ..
[08:39] <orduek> i have a problem with evolution mail
[08:39] <orduek> it won't start
[08:39] <riotkittie> what do you need help with, Ryandor
[08:39] <riotkittie> orduek: run it from a term... is there an error message?
[08:39] <orduek> how do i do it?
[08:39] <Davy_Jones> what is a good and lightweight bittorrent client that actually works? no KDE apps please
[08:40] <gunjan> hi, how do i extract a substring from string variable using shell?
[08:40] <Dr_willis> Davy_Jones,  try the original 'bittorrent' client?
[08:40] <Ryandor> I've got a HP/Compaq NC6220 with built-in bluetooth.. how ever Gutsy beta doesn't see it at all... (based on lshw at least).. any pointers to get it to see?
[08:40] <riotkittie> orduek: go to the applications menu > accessories >> terminal... and when open type evolution
[08:40] <orduek> heres what it says
[08:40] <Dr_willis> !bittorrent
[08:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bittorrent - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:40] <orduek> (evolution-2.10:6267): evolution-smime-WARNING **: initializing security library without cert databases.
[08:40] <orduek> (evolution-2.10:6267): evolution-mail-WARNING **: ignored this junk plugin: not enabled or we have already loaded one
[08:40] <orduek> (evolution-2.10:6267): e-utils-WARNING **: Plugin 'Bogofilter junk plugin' failed to load hook 'org.gnome.evolution.mail.junk:1.0'
[08:40] <orduek> Setting up initial mail tree
[08:40] <orduek> addressbook_migrate (0.0.0)
[08:40] <orduek> (evolution-2.10:6267): e-data-server-DEBUG: Loaded default categories
[08:40] <orduek> ** (evolution-2.10:6267): DEBUG: mailto URL command: evolution %s
[08:40] <orduek> ** (evolution-2.10:6267): DEBUG: mailto URL program: evolution
[08:40] <orduek> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[08:40] <Davy_Jones> Dr_willis: nah.. i'm sure there are far better choices
[08:40] <riotkittie> ooh dont paste it :o
[08:41] <gunjan> how do i extract a sub string from string variable using shell commands?
[08:41] <jrib> gunjan: can you be more specific?
[08:41] <nickrud> gunjan: the abs-guide in the repos has a lot of useful stuff about scripting, it will make a good reference
[08:42] <Dr_willis> abs-guide is a MUSt read
[08:42] <Dr_willis> :)
[08:42] <riotkittie> Ryandor: ask in #ubuntu+1 ... gutsy support goes on there til it's an actual final release :P
[08:42] <gunjan> jrib, variable $temp contains sl12::0, i want to get the sl12 part and store it to a variable
[08:42] <Ryandor> thanks riotkittie!
[08:42] <nickrud> I've been scripting for  a few years now, but not enough to remember what I need when I need it. abs is a constant read :)
[08:43] <Dialntone> can someone help me  out with installing micro (democracyplayer) i have the tarcall file
[08:43] <jussi01> !info micro
[08:43] <ubotu> Package micro does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:43] <jussi01> !info micro gutsy
[08:43] <Sniper00X> i have a Sound Blaster Live! sound card and I'm running Feisty, whenever I try using sounding i get a loud buzzing and at times it freezes the entir system and i'm forced to reboot. I tried the Gutsy Live CD with the same results .. I've removed the alsa-base and alsa-utils and reinstalled, I've even built the drivers from source but with the same results .. is there a compatiblity issue with SB Live and Ubuntu?
[08:43] <ubotu> Package micro does not exist in gutsy
[08:43] <nickrud> Dialntone: it's probably something you need to compile; the INSTALL file in the tarball has instructions. (I'd wait for gutsy, tho. Miro's in there)
[08:43] <Dialntone> !info democracyplayer
[08:43] <ubotu> democracyplayer: GTK+ based RSS video aggregator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.2.1-2.1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 509 kB, installed size 2768 kB
[08:44] <jussi01> :)
[08:44] <jrib> gunjan: you can use sed, cut, or  ${temp%%:*}
[08:44] <ice109> does anyone know a good spreadsheet program?
[08:44] <Mr_Giraffe> does anybody here have a ralink chipset USB wireless adapter?
[08:44] <ice109> like better than openoffice calc?
[08:44] <Dialntone> everytime i install reinstall it, it crashes on me but it still works, just highly unstable
[08:45] <nickrud> ice109: calc is pretty darn good, actually. You might like gnumeric though
[08:45] <Dialntone> they have  a new version, .. so your saying its not best to install it - wait for it to be in the repoitory?
[08:45] <Dialntone> !info airsnort
[08:45] <ubotu> airsnort: WLAN sniffer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.7e-1.1 (feisty), package size 49 kB, installed size 180 kB
[08:45] <orduek> riotkittie
[08:46] <ice109> nickrud do you know how to reorder columns and not mess up references in equations?
[08:46] <orduek> i had a problem with the IRC software - so i didn't see your answer about evolution mail
[08:46] <nickrud> ice109: iirc I used cut & paste.
[08:46] <Flats> How do I know if I have GTK+ installed?  I could have swore I did but I'm trying to install evolution Email and it says I don't
[08:46] <gunjan> jrib, thanks a lot
[08:46] <ice109> yes well that messes up my the references
[08:47] <graelb> Is there something i can type to reference the current directory?
[08:47] <Cocodude> Is anyone here knowledgeable with using Linux RAID on a root filesystem and has a little while to help me out with a problem I've got?
[08:47] <orduek> riotkittie: can you please help me with the evolution?
[08:47] <zsz> graelb, pwd
[08:47] <ice109> nickrud wow not only that but extremely small numbers are zero to it
[08:47] <graelb> IE, if i'm in /home/graelb, and i want to make a symbolic link, can i type ln -s pwd /home/graelb/Desktop?
[08:47] <kibbl1> graelb: depends why you need to reference it
[08:47] <Flats> Is GTK+ a package or is it caleld something else?
[08:48] <nickrud> ice109: you sure they're 0, or simply shown as zero?
[08:48] <markelhas> hi ppl need some help to config one d-link dwl-g650m in my ubuntu
[08:48] <ice109> nickrud i can't divide by them
[08:48] <ice109> i get div/0 error
[08:48] <nickrud> ice109: that's proof positive, I'd say :)
[08:48] <zsz> graelb, that would be ln -s `pwd` /home/graelb/Desktop (with the ticks)
[08:48] <ice109> yup
[08:48] <ice109> how do i fix that?
[08:48] <ice109> that's ridiculous
[08:49] <graelb> But that's how it works huh? Awesome. Thank you =)
[08:49] <nickrud> ice109: not sure, never used it for anything that precise. Just dollars & such
[08:49] <markelhas> hi ppl need some help to config one d-link dwl-g650m in my ubuntu. i've already install ndis
[08:49] <nickrud> ice109: try gnumeric
[08:49] <markelhas> ndiswrapper
[08:49] <ice109> its the same thing
[08:49] <kibbl1> hmmm
[08:50] <markelhas> !ndiswrapper
[08:50] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:50] <ffm> Can someone help me? Whenever I switch over to a console (Via CTRL ALT F(1-8)) then I get all of these "sdb assuming driver cache: write through"
[08:50] <graelb> Yeah, that didn't work
[08:50] <graelb> it created a ln to nowhere named pwd
[08:50] <graelb> lol
[08:51] <orduek> hi
[08:51] <jhnthn> graelb: try a . instead of `pwd`
[08:51] <Sniper00X> i have a Sound Blaster Live! sound card and I'm running Feisty, whenever I try using sounding i get a loud buzzing and at times it freezes the entir system and i'm forced to reboot. I tried the Gutsy Live CD with the same results .. I've removed the alsa-base and alsa-utils and reinstalled, I've even built the drivers from source but with the same results .. is there a compatiblity issue with SB Live and Ubuntu?
[08:51] <orduek> can anyone tell me why i can't open the evolution mail?
[08:52] <nickrud> Flats: that's probably libgtk2.0-0   ( or maybe libgtk2.0-dev if it's for compiling)
[08:52] <Flats> why thank you Nickrud
[08:52] <ice109> nickrud nm me i was passing the function a word
[08:53] <orduek> can anyone please help me?
[08:53] <riotkittie> orduek: i have no idea, sorry.
[08:53] <anahata> hi again
[08:53] <orduek> OK thanks riotkittie
[08:54] <anahata> LjL: it worked this time :) i have no idea why it didn't work the first time, but now the md5's match
[08:54] <graelb> hmm, no... hehe it makes a symbolic link to the current directory wherever the link is created
[08:54] <graelb> which is kind of cool, but not useful to me for the purpose intended
[08:54] <orduek> anyone else can help me with evolution mail? it won't start
[08:54] <anahata> so apparently i do know how to use md5, i don't know how to do that pg thing on the linux page but i can learn that later i guess
[08:54] <Hilikus> hey guys, im trying to set digest authetication on my apache server, thing is i want to protect only some directories, one of them is the root directory, but i understand digest auth will protect everything under a specified dir, and it being the root it will protect everything. how do i get around that?
[08:54] <Tomcat_> Hilikus: Create protection for each directory you need to protect.
[08:54] <anahata> i think it had something to do with my firewall botching things up, i hate my firewall
[08:55] <Hilikus> Tomcat_ the problem is, one of the ones i do want to protect is the root directory
[08:55] <jhnthn> graelb: What did you type exactly?
[08:55] <Tomcat_> Hilikus: You want to protect root but nothing below it? o_O
[08:55] <graelb> I typed "ln -s . /home/graelb/Desktop/Downloads\ from\ windows
[08:55] <graelb> "
[08:55] <Hilikus> Tomcat_ i want to protect root and SOME below it, but not all
[08:56] <Hilikus> and i understand that if i protect root it will protect everything
[08:56] <markelhas> hi ppl need some help to config one d-link dwl-g650m in my ubuntu. i've already install ndis
[08:56] <Tomcat_> Hilikus: In that case, you need some more complex protection rules... there is some way to apply regular expressions to some directives... no idea how exactly though.
[08:56] <ffm> I get messages like this whenever I switch over to TTY. Oct  7 14:49:04 merlin kernel: [23923.201493]  sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb]  Unit Not Ready
[08:56] <Hilikus> ok,thanks
[08:56] <jhnthn> graelb: change the target and the . places around
[08:57] <HairyDude> am I right in thinking dmix is meant to replace esd?
[08:58] <anahata> ok well thanks room, it works now, i'll see you later
[08:58] <Syndicat3> Hi there
[08:59] <Syndicat3> Should I bother uprading from Feisty to the Beta?
[08:59] <Syndicat3> Is the Beta good?
[08:59] <graelb> that created a link in the current directory
[08:59] <Tomcat_> Syndicat3: Not on a productive system.
[08:59] <jsm> Please help: a.out: Segmentation fault (core dumped).   Cant't find the core-file anywhere.
[08:59] <graelb> oh well, i can just type it in, i thought someone might know a trick
[08:59] <Syndicat3> Sorry...what's a productive system
[08:59] <Syndicat3> ?
[08:59] <Pici> Syndicat3: If I were you I'd wait for the final.
[08:59] <graelb> well, a trick that worked for what i wanted to do
[08:59] <jhnthn> I thought you watned a link in the current dir?
[08:59] <Tomcat_> Syndicat3: A system that you need to be productive. :)
[08:59] <Tomcat_> Syndicat3: Where you read mail, surf the web, read news, write documents. Play games. :)
[09:00] <Syndicat3> Ok.. I will...one more quick question....Where can I find a link to install the latest version of copmiz fusion.... I installed it from synaptic before, but it looks like it was older?
[09:00] <Syndicat3> I need a walk through guide that's easy to understand...to install the latest version? Before I couldn'
[09:00] <HairyDude> jsm: ulimit -c unlimited
[09:00] <Davy_Jones> wait for the official release.. it's only like 13 days?
[09:01] <Syndicat3> Yeah I'm going to wait..
[09:01] <Tomcat_> Davy_Jones: 11 days
[09:01] <graelb> Thanks anyway jhnthn =)
[09:01] <Davy_Jones> thans
[09:01] <Syndicat3> But, it'd be appreciatedif someone could post me a link to a good guide for installing the latest compiz fusion...or the best.... i don't know if a beta  version is out, or whatever..
[09:03] <Syndicat3> Anyone?
[09:03] <Doughy> If I install Gusty with the beta version today, will I need to reinstall after the final release comes out?
[09:03] <Davy_Jones> Syndicat3: i'm sure you can get good results with google
[09:03] <Davy_Jones> Syndicat3: http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=compiz+fusion+ubuntu&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
[09:03] <Pici> !final | Doughy
[09:03] <ubotu> Doughy: If you installed a Tribe/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Gutsy. To make sure, type  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  in a console.
[09:04] <jhnthn> grayscale: I thought you wanted a link in the current dir?
[09:04] <jhnthn> grayscale: sorry wrong person
[09:04] <eltese> Hi! How do I install compiz fusion on Feisty Fawn?
[09:05] <ArmedKing> What options would i have for a Mobile device (pocket pc like) fully compatible with Ubuntu?
[09:05] <Doughy> OK, so if I install Gutsy now, is there any real consequence to it?  I mean, is there a good argument to wait until the final release?
[09:06] <BillyBeans> hi
[09:06] <BobSapp> ArmedKing: I just downgraded from gutsy cause my geforce 6200 stopped working
[09:06] <BobSapp> im currently installing envy atm
[09:06] <BobSapp> But other than that problem getting hardware 3d support, gutsy was fine for my day to day OS requirements
[09:06] <|Kamen|> How do I manually add a launcher to my applications menu? the launcher is on my desktop but the add/remove panel from the apps menu doesnt list it as beign installed
[09:07] <Dr_willis> |Kamen|,  what launcher is this?
[09:07] <Hilikus> how do i enable auth_digest in apache, i see it in mods_available but not in mods_enabled
[09:07] <Doughy> Kamen, go to System->Preferences->Main Menu
[09:07] <|Kamen|> dosbox
[09:07] <docmur> Okay I just installed phpadmin and php5 and mysql,  I'm trying to get word press working and when I goto http://docmurserve/phpadmin/    windows tries to download a file rather then run some sort of interface I was told I should see
[09:08] <docmur> any ideas
[09:08] <Hilikus> ah nm, i think theyre just symlinks
[09:08] <zzz> docmur: Did you try restarting apache?
[09:09] <docmur> ahh just restarted apache and windows still wants to download the file
[09:09] <|Kamen|> Doughy: Thanks, that got it working
[09:10] <zzz> docmur: What about Firefox? Maybe something got into Internet Explorer's cache...
[09:10] <adnan_> hostname
[09:10] <adnan_> clear
[09:10] <docmur> so I should clear IE
[09:10] <docmur> then try again
[09:10] <nas_> hola
[09:10] <Lunz> i am unable to change my screen resolution.can some please help me?
[09:11] <docmur> okay just wiped the chache and such in IE and still wants to download
[09:11] <vulcanius> docmur, what type of file is it?
[09:13] <Wolf23> anyone help me with gnokii? thanx
[09:13] <docmur> it just says phpmyadmin[1]  when I click open, it doesn't know the extension or doesn't have on
[09:13] <docmur> when I open it in word pad it's a file with code in it
[09:13] <vulcanius> if it's a .php file then it probably means your web server is not installed with PHP correctly
[09:13] <Lunz> i am unable to change my screen resolution.can someone please help me?it only have 800 x 600 and no other option..
[09:13] <silent> what would I add to my sources.list entries to have access to all repositories?
[09:14] <zzz> docmur: Is php5 enabled? Can you run "a2enmod php5" and restart apache?
[09:14] <kitche> docmur: it means your apache does not know how to use php files
[09:14] <nvrpunkg3> is there a proper way to downgrade back to feisty from gutsy?
[09:14] <docmur> ahhh okay then
[09:14] <nvrpunkg3> without a reinstall
[09:15] <secret901> Does anyone know how to disable Compiz in 7.10?  It's seriously messing up my windows.
[09:15] <filthpig> secret901, System - preferences - appearance
[09:15] <troseph_> !macbook
[09:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about macbook - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:16] <LinuxJuggalo> !mac | troseph_
[09:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:16] <secret901> filthpig: thanks.  Including compiz-default was a horrible idea.
[09:16] <troseph_> Can anyone share their xorg.conf from an intel MacBook? I can not get the huggin thing to work.
[09:16] <filthpig> secret901, and choose the Visal Effects tab, choose "none"
[09:16] <secret901> Beryl at least sort of worked on my laptop.
[09:16] <eyemean> hi there
[09:17] <filthpig> secret901, #ubuntu+1 for gutsy talk, btw ;)
[09:17] <secret901> filthpig: thanks
[09:17] <eyemean> im using ubuntu 7.04, cn any1 recomend good and easy firewall to configure
[09:17] <eyemean> or should i assume becaus eim using a router i dont relly need a firewall?
[09:17] <filthpig> eyemean, Firestarter is a popular app, but Ihaven't used it myself
[09:18] <filthpig> eyemean, depends on your need for security
[09:18] <docmur> does anyone know the name of the apache 1 php mod
[09:18] <eyemean> filthpig, thats wat im using now, but for some reason i have problems identifying all the ports i need to allow
[09:19] <eyemean> unlick windows wen i used to just select an application and that was it
[09:19] <filthpig> eyemean, if your router is set up with strict port blocking there shouldn't really be an enormous need for a software firewall, but in the end it's your call
[09:19] <eyemean> filthpig, its a personal computer, so not really sure, i boviously dont want any1 hacking my pc
[09:20] <eyemean> filthpig, rounter is set to standard rather than block all traffic, so i guess that isnt very secure
[09:20] <filthpig> probably not
[09:21] <Lunz> hello
[09:21] <filthpig> I'm not very into firewalls myself, but I do think ubuntu comes with many ports blocked out-of-the-box
[09:21] <filthpig> !firewall
[09:21] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[09:22] <eyemean> filthpig, cheers
[09:22] <markelhas> can anyone help me to config a dwl-g650m pci wireless card?
[09:23] <BillyBeans> how do i make my kde look badass?
[09:24] <bmt2> can someone tell me the reason why when i turn on 'desktop effects' my video apps, and my audio apps do not work ?
[09:24] <eyemean> ifilthpig, yeh i feel the firewall is a pain, so i will try the iptables way and see
[09:24] <eyemean> thanx for getting that info up from the bot
[09:24] <troseph_> BillyBeans: lol
[09:25] <filthpig> eyemean, np
[09:25] <BillyBeans> hi
[09:26] <filthpig> !hi
[09:26] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:26] <bmt2> could be my processor ?
[09:26] <bmt2> i have two of them
[09:26] <filthpig> bmt2, are you running 7.04 or 7.10?
[09:27] <bmt2> filthpig: 7.04 i think
[09:27] <filthpig> ah, yes
[09:27] <bmt2> filthpig: how can i tell
[09:27] <Wolf23> somebody help!!
[09:28] <nvrpunkg3> anyone have any suggestions on downgrading ubuntu from Gutsy to Feisty
[09:28] <Pici> !downgrade | nvrpunkg3
[09:28] <ubotu> nvrpunkg3: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[09:28] <soundray> nvrpunkg3: do a fresh install
[09:28] <filthpig> bmt2, system - about ubuntu is an easy way to check, but you're on 7.04 because of the "desktop effects" ;) in 7.10 it's under appearance and called Visal Effects ;)
[09:29] <nvrpunkg3> ....
[09:29] <nvrpunkg3> wow
[09:29] <filthpig> bmt2, what gfx card do you have?
[09:29] <Wolf23> somebody help please!
[09:29] <j01101111sh> Is there a way to simulate keyboard input with text from a file? I am writing a shell script to add a user to my system and I need a way to automatically enter in information after running the initial 'adduser username' command.
[09:29] <filthpig> hahaha
[09:29] <bmt2> filthpig: intel, is that too plain description. ? do you need more detail
[09:30] <filthpig> it's not very helpful ;)
[09:30] <filthpig> hehe
[09:30] <filthpig> !intel
[09:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:30] <Lunz> i am unable to change my screen resolution.can someone please help me?it only have 800 x 600 and no other option..
[09:30] <filthpig> !compiz
[09:30] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:30] <j01101111sh> Is there a way to simulate keyboard input with text from a file? I am writing a shell script to add a user to my system and I need a way to automatically enter in information after running the initial 'adduser username' command.
[09:30] <asdffdsa> useradd
[09:31] <filthpig> ah, yes, you can check with the guys over at #ubuntu-effects, some of those guys are awesome
[09:31] <bmt2> filthpig: does this help ? ::   Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[09:31] <BillyBeans> hi
[09:31] <pvandewyngaerde> !digitalaudio
[09:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about digitalaudio - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:32] <DoYouKnow> hi
[09:32] <filthpig> bmt2, it does. Hmm, I'm a bit unsure as to whether those cards support desktop effects
[09:32] <filthpig> and it might be a driver issue
[09:32] <DoYouKnow> anyone know of any graphical process viewers for gnome that are more full-featured than the one that is included?
[09:32] <j01101111sh> asdfdsa: i read the man pages, and they didnt help me much, can you be more specific?
[09:32] <Lunz> !resolution
[09:32] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:32] <soundray> Wolf23: how can anyone help if you're not saying what the problem is?
[09:33] <zsz> j01101111sh, what other information do you want to add?
[09:34] <Lunz> somebody please..
[09:34] <j01101111sh> zsz: besides a password, nothing
[09:34] <filthpig> bmt2, I'm not very good at this, so you should seek for help over at #ubuntu-effects.. I'm trying to find something about supported cards and drivers etc, but currently I would advice you to keep desktop effects turned off
[09:34] <stefg> !fixres | liunz
[09:35] <ubotu> liunz: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:35] <stefg> !fixres | lunz
[09:35] <ubotu> lunz: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:35] <stefg> !faq
[09:35] <ubotu> A list of common questions and answers about Ubuntu: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions - Official documentation: http://help.ubuntu.com - IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
[09:36] <ant-> !fag
[09:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fag - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:38] <opexoc> I have downloaded and installed RealPlayer10GOLD.bin which should realplayer plugin in mozilla firefox, but mozilla throws when I want play movie: "Could not find a appropriate hxplay or realplay in the system path to use as an embedded player"
[09:38] <frutax> I realize this question is broader than just ubuntu, but I'm not sure where to put it, I've been googling for a while: I use network-manager to connect to my wireless router, but when I switch and try to use the standard System >> Admin >> Network dialog to set up a static ip with my wireless router, i am unable to connect
[09:38] <txoof> I'm trying to start a VNC session.  I have vncserver installed, I can start the session, connect to the server, but gnome never starts.  I can see that bits and pieces of gnome start (I can see several gnome processes running that are definitely related to the vnc server), the default yellowish-orange gnome background image shows up, but never the pannel or any of the other features.  Also, I have the ability to draw a "swipe" box on the deskto
[09:38] <txoof> are working.
[09:38] <txoof> What might be going wrong?
[09:38] <Wolf23> somebody help me please!
[09:39] <j01101111sh> j Is there a way to simulate keyboard input with text from a file? I am writing a shell script to add a user to my system and I need a way to automatically enter in information after running the initial 'adduser username' command.
[09:40] <Dr_willis> txoof,  how are you starting the vncserver?
[09:40] <txoof> Dr_willis: vncserver :2
[09:40] <patty> can you not just pipe in the information?  i guess the answer is obviously no
[09:40] <j01101111sh> well, it is several lines of input that need to be piped
[09:40] <Dr_willis> txoof,  ive had better luck with 'vnc4server' and editing the .vnc/xstartup file to load a real light window manager. like jwm. Gnome had some issues for me last i tried it.
[09:41] <Dr_willis> txoof,  you can check the .vnc/log files also
[09:41] <Warsocket> could someone pls help me with removing the devfs usage from ubunu, ive compiled the new kernel but newer klernels dont support devfs anymore
[09:41] <txoof> Dr_willis: yeah, I've tried vnc4server. I can get twm to work, but I specifically NEED the gnome environment to get a backup app to work properly in an unattended manner.
[09:41] <Warsocket> so the kernel panics at boot
[09:42] <drewby> hello
[09:42] <patty> um... put it in a text file, and then pipe cat *text file* into the input and bring along the text file with shell script?
[09:42] <Dr_willis> txoof,  if you are running gnome right now then start a vnc server thats ALSO using gnome.. might be the issue.
[09:42] <txoof> Dr_willis: there's nothing of use in the vnc log.  Any idea how to increase verbosity?  vncserver appears to be a wrapper for Xrealvnc
[09:42] <kitche> Warsocket: ubuntu hasn't used devfs for a long time what ubuntu version are you using?
[09:42] <NielsE> where can I set that ubuntu does not lock the screen when I suspend?
[09:42] <txoof> Dr_willis: nope, nobody's logged in using gnome currently.
[09:42] <drewby> I was wondering what a good PHP IDE with remote browsing for PHP is?  I used Komodo in windows...
[09:42] <Nanaki-Yamabushi> Hi What was the command again for full root. I need it to convert scenarios for Lgeneral.
[09:42] <txoof> Nanaki-Yamabushi: su -
[09:42] <drewby> su / sudo?
[09:43] <Nanaki-Yamabushi> Let me try
[09:43] <kitche> Warsocket: please ask before pming me
[09:44] <drewby> Anybody here program in php?
[09:44] <Nanaki-Yamabushi> erk I forgot my root password.
[09:45] <txoof> Nanaki-Yamabushi: try sudo passwd root
[09:45] <Dr_willis> There is no root password. :) your user uses their SUDO password. to do sudo stuff.
[09:45] <LjL> or consider keeping it disabled like it was intended to.
[09:45] <Nanaki-Yamabushi> Okay updated let me try again
[09:45] <stefg> !sudo
[09:45] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:46] <txoof> Dr_willis: unless you've enabled the root account.  I love root :)
[09:46] <Dr_willis> 'do the sudo shuffle!'
[09:46] <Flannel> txoof: Please don't suggest people enable the root account, thanks.
[09:46] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> hey folks....
[09:46] <drewby> I'm gonna take it nobody's interested in answering a question about a Gnome PHP IDE here then and scram.
[09:47] <txoof> Dr_willis: any other ideas?
[09:47] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> i was looking at this Screenlet for Ubuntu 6.10,  is there pros n cons for this
[09:47] <hendrixski> whenever I import a video into Kino it always plays a little faster than it should, and if I try to slow it down afterwards it degrades the quality?  What am I doing wrong in the import?
[09:47] <jroes> drewby: you'd probably want to ask that question in a channel specific to each of those technologies
[09:47] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> and whats the cmd to get it
[09:47] <Flannel> drewby: You might have more luck in #php
[09:47] <hendrixski> !kino
[09:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kino - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:48] <Nanaki-Yamabushi> Thanks
[09:48] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> flannel: how bout you?
[09:48] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> do you know andthing about screenlet?
[09:48] <hendrixski> hhmmm, there is no channel for Kino... so... maybe someone here has used it... how do I set it to NOT change videos to rediculously fast mode when it imports them?
[09:49] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> anything**
[09:50] <Dr_willis> txoof,  not really. I noticed issues befor when using vnc and gnome..  could just launch a xterm, then manually start the gnome bits. and see if any error msssages show up
[09:53] <txoof> Dr_willis: I'll try.  Thanks.
[09:54] <baver> Is there a 32-bit package of X that I can install on a 64-bit ubuntu?
[09:54] <Prez_> this is the strangest thing, i am running feisty, when i use xchat connect to undernet then type in a channel, x-chat crashes
[09:54] <fyrestrtr> baver: nope.
[09:54] <Prez_> seems it only happens with undernet
[09:54] <fyrestrtr> baver: you'd have to compile it, but not really needed.
[09:55] <baver> fyrestrtr: ok, thanks. I have a commercial app that is complaining about libXext.so.6 missing ... I'm guessing it wants a 32-bit version, since I have the 64-bit version.
[09:57] <nullfs> When I load certain pages in firefox it causes my mouse to hiccup. I have reniced the mozilla-bin process to +5 and Xorg to -1 is there a specific process that controls the mouse that I'm missing?
[09:59] <abelabel> is there a way to change permissions of a folder that is owned by root without using the terminal?
[09:59] <Flannel> abelabel: `gksu nautilus` will get you a root nautilus window.  Close it as soon as you're finished, and be extremely careful.
[10:00] <abelabel> Flannel: thanks; in that case I think I might as well use the terminal
[10:01] <ompaul> abelabel, how come root owns the files?
[10:01] <Flannel> abelabel: You just shouldn't keep it open, andneed to be careful that you don't accidentally drag stuff places.  Simple mistakes like those are more common in a GUI (because chmod is hard to type as mv)
[10:01] <abelabel> ompaul: I don't know. It's the folder containing Blender scripts
[10:03] <shk> does anyone know how to get compiz, emerald, and awn to start up with each other?
[10:04] <mh56> hi guys
[10:04] <jif> shk: try System>Preferences>Sessions
[10:04] <Black_Phoenix> Hey guys, can you help me with setting up Compiz? I got it installed, but right now it does not start up, or does not have any effect
[10:04] <mh56> how do i rename a file in ubuntu at a promt
[10:04] <Hilikus> mh56 mv
[10:04] <jhnthn> mh56: mv filename newfilename
[10:05] <mh56> hilikus thanks alot for your help
[10:05] <nzero> Black_Phoenix: what ubuntu version you running
[10:05] <Black_Phoenix> 7.04
[10:05] <nzero> Black_Phoenix: how did you install compiz
[10:05] <Black_Phoenix> nzero: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-Compiz-Fusion-on-Ubuntu-58113.shtml
[10:05] <Black_Phoenix> I followed those steps
[10:06] <nzero> did you run compiz --replace
[10:06] <Black_Phoenix> Oh hold on
[10:06] <Black_Phoenix> Yeah I did
[10:07] <shk> jif: i have all of those set up to launch, but a lot of the time they screw up
[10:07] <tomasz154_> d
[10:07] <jroes> come on Kasay
[10:07] <shadylookin> how come whenever i open an applet my firefox crashes?
[10:07] <nzero> Black_Phoenix: are you running a restricted video driver
[10:07] <shk> like i think they are supposed to launch in a certain order, maybe emerald->compiz->awn ?
[10:08] <Black_Phoenix> nzero: doesnt report the driver as restricted, no
[10:08] <nzero> I used a different howto and it worked perfect for me on fiesty
[10:08] <Black_Phoenix> nzero: Can you provide link?
[10:08] <nzero> but if you can what for gutsy to come out and install it compiz is already configured
[10:09] <nzero> wait*
[10:09] <nzero> yes hold on
[10:09] <Black_Phoenix> Also I've got another rather strange problem, when booting ubuntu checks all filesystem each time. That takes bloody ages for me =\
[10:09] <Black_Phoenix> Like 5 minutes
[10:10] <wastrel> ooh
[10:10] <nzero> remember to uninstall all the previous compiz fusion stuff first and to uncheck that other howto's third party repository
[10:10] <jahshua> hello
[10:10] <Black_Phoenix> uh huh
[10:11] <nzero> here is the link phoenix http://forlong.blogage.de/article/2007/8/26/The-best-way-to-install-Compiz-Fusion-on-Ubuntu-Feisty
[10:12] <web_knows> the best way to install compiz fusion on ubuntu: wait for gusty gibbon
[10:12] <web_knows> 11 days
[10:12] <wastrel> gusty eh
[10:12] <nzero> hell i'm running the beta and it works fine
[10:12] <_MrPink_> web_knows Will it work better with the new version? Are there any changes in that way?
[10:12] <ikonia> !worksforme |nzero
[10:12] <web_knows> yeah, whatever
[10:12] <ubotu> nzero: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[10:13] <nzero> be able to do so shows it can be done commonly
[10:13] <nzero> common sense
[10:13] <jif> I
[10:13] <ikonia> no
[10:13] <kst> fail@logic
[10:13] <_MrPink_> ikonia the speeding metaphor is a bit cheezy :-P
[10:13] <ikonia> _MrPink_: what speeding metaphore ?
[10:13] <jif> I'm running the beta, too, and it's pretty nice actually
[10:14] <jif> cool desktop effects
[10:14] <_MrPink_> ikonia on the page the bot spit out ;)
[10:14] <web_knows> http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/gutsybeta#head-b3754898496b07ceb51ec23d3704e753b7a2562f
[10:14] <jif> the sticky windows are neat :)
[10:14] <wastrel> stick
[10:14] <wastrel> y
[10:14] <web_knows> _MrPink_, take a look on the URL above
[10:14] <nzero> its not just the effects of it, its the ability to be productive
[10:15] <_MrPink_> web_knows thanks looks great
[10:15] <nzero> multiple monitors and desktop cubes on each makes a sound engineers life much easier
[10:15] <web_knows> really, i dont see how compiz fusion can improve productivity
[10:15] <shk> when gutsy comes out, will i be able to just update my feisty, or will i need to do a full reinstall?
[10:15] <Eric_Cartman> ima li ovde SRBA
[10:15] <web_knows> nzero, thanks for that point :)
[10:15] <ikonia> shk updates should work
[10:15] <wastrel> upgrade yes
[10:15] <BobSapp> nzero: funny you should say that, I just installed compiz after an envy script run
[10:16] <shk> thank you:D
[10:16] <jahshua> jif: how did you upgrade to the beta?
[10:16] <nzero> just things looking interesting makes people more productive
[10:16] <OM1136> has anybody successfully compiled beagle 0.2.18 on Feisty?
[10:16] <BobSapp> nzero: unwrap is a godsend to me
[10:16] <nzero> they feel happy from craZY windows animations
[10:17] <jif> jahshua: I downloaded the iso image
[10:17] <nzero> happy=more productive
[10:17] <wastrel> unwrap
[10:17] <jahshua> ok
[10:17] <nzero> unless your durnk
[10:17] <nzero> drunk
[10:17] <jahshua> is there a way to upgrade to the beta with repo's?
[10:17] <jahshua> anyone know.
[10:17] <jif> jahshua: surely there must be
[10:17] <BobSapp> Right now im planning on making an application that will use a compiz plugin to orient the windows
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[10:17] <nzero> oh cool a girl how likes samba, i'm in love i think
[10:17] <Ashfire908> can i make a custom command? like make command1 do "echo command1 has been run"?
[10:18] <nzero> who*
[10:18] <BobSapp> imagine firefox where each tab is a 3d window
[10:18] <sambagirl> hi i am running ubuntu in a vmware on my macbook. i downloaded in the environment a .run app. it is on the desktop how do i execute it?
[10:18] <tsukasa> mmmmm this coffee is good
[10:18] <tsukasa> seattle blend hazelnut
[10:18] <ikonia> sambagirl are these nvidia drivers by any chance ?
[10:18] <wastrel> Ashfire908: script, alias or function.   alias command="some other command"
[10:18] <danny> Can any one help me with lm_sensors b/c the fan is freking loud here lol any one?
[10:18] <BobSapp> delicious :)
[10:18] <jahshua> !upgrade
[10:18] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[10:18] <Ashfire908> wastrel, what is the difference between them
[10:18] <sambagirl> ikonia no it is enemy territory. i wanted to see if i could run the linux version in vmware on my macbook as an experiement.
[10:18] <jahshua> !beta
[10:19] <stefg> warning to all people who cant wait for the gutsy release candidate: In preparation pf the release things go quite dynamically at the time being, so brakage after upgrade is to be expected. Esp. for the restricted drivers
[10:19] <sambagirl> is seveas still associated with ubuntu?
[10:19] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon (7.10) *BETA* information and release notes can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon/Beta - If you regularly update, then you're running the latest version - ISOs and Torrents at http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/gutsy/ - It is development software and as such unstable, support ONLY in #ubuntu+1
[10:19] <ikonia> sambagirl you'll struggle with games in a vm because they can't interface with graphics hardware direct
[10:19] <jif> jahshua: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades
[10:19] <wastrel> Ashfire908: alias would normally be for something simple, function a little more complex, script more complex still.
[10:19] <sambagirl> ahh ok ikonia
[10:19] <sambagirl> that is cool i was just expermenting anyway.
[10:19] <sambagirl> thanks
[10:19] <jahshua> thanks jif.
[10:19] <Ashfire908> is there a command to output a file?
[10:19] <danny> Can any one help me with lm_sensors I got it installed, but it wont sence fan speed!
[10:19] <ikonia> Ashfire908: cat
[10:20] <CoCaInE> !locales
[10:20] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[10:20] <silent> danny, ARE YOU SERIOUS?? THAT IS TERRIBLE
[10:20] <JEFFmasterFlex> Ashfire908:  you can pipe to a text file
[10:20] <nzero> how lets so i wanted to run say battlefield 2 the video game, with high graphics on inside ubuntu using a virtual windows xp enviroment, could a box handle that or would it be choking because of the priority ubuntu has over the xp runnning
[10:20] <ikonia> silent don't shout, and there is nothing wrong with asking that question
[10:20] <usser> silent: is there any reason for being so rude??
[10:20] <ikonia> !windows >nzero
[10:20] <silent> usser, ...being a rude person?
[10:21] <Ashfire908> wastrel, i don't have the man for alias or function
[10:21] <usser> silent: oh carry on then
[10:21] <nzero> what is it with you ops and that bot
[10:21] <ikonia> nzero: just stay on topic and respect the rules of the ubuntu channel
[10:21] <silent> danny, will the world end because you don't know the fan speed in your computer?
[10:21] <wastrel> Ashfire908: man builtins  for alias - it's a bash builtin command
[10:21] <silent> danny, how many better things could you be doing with your time?
[10:22] <ikonia> silent: he's allowed to ask that question, don't be-little it
[10:22] <wastrel> Ashfire908: for functions probably read the bash scripting howto
[10:22] <Flannel> silent: Cut it out
[10:22] <Gun_Smoke> silent: Thats not up to you..
[10:22] <ikonia> danny: we'll be with you in a moment
[10:22] <nzero> ok ikonia, don't get your knickers all bunched up
[10:22] <danny> ok thanks
[10:22] <ikonia> nzero: they arn't
[10:22] <Ashfire908> wastrel, is alias global?
[10:22] <danny> ikonia: ok
[10:22] <jonzey> german people in here
[10:22] <jonzey> ?
[10:22] <Flannel> !de | jonzey
[10:22] <ubotu> jonzey: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:22] <ikonia> !de >jonzey
[10:22] <jonzey> thx broooo
[10:22] <silent> wow, under a minute and I already got 4 people involved in that flame fest... gotta put that up on the wall. new record
[10:23] <wastrel> Ashfire908: you can put it in /etc/bash.bashrc  to make it global
[10:23] <fhobia> i'm runnig ubuntu lts ...but i'd like to update just one software package (git) to the version thats in gutsy...how do i do that ?
[10:23] <silent> and no, I have nothing better to do with my time
[10:23] <ikonia> silent: just behave and respect people
[10:23] <Flannel> !prevu | fhobia
[10:23] <ubotu> fhobia: prevu is an automated, personal backporting utility. Check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Prevu for more details
[10:23] <wastrel> cool
[10:23] <Ashfire908> wastrel, is function global do would i have to do the same
[10:23] <wastrel> same
[10:23] <ikonia> fhobia its not really a good idea to do that, due to gusty being built on much later software base environment
[10:23] <nzero> ikonia, are you real , or are you machine, hellbent on keeping the channel free of any communication that doesn't include specifically ubuntu questions
[10:24] <MOTZ> how can i disable the the password in gutsy ? like in in feisty with @include common-pamkeyring
[10:24] <MOTZ> ???
[10:24] <Ashfire908> wastrel, were you talking to me?
[10:24] <wastrel> nzero: that's kindof channel policy
[10:24] <MOTZ> for wlan
[10:24] <ikonia> nzero I am real, and yes, thats the rules, ubuntu related support questions only
[10:24] <fhobia> ubotu: thanks
[10:24] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[10:24] <stefg> fhobia: if there's no backport available your only option is building from source. the libs in dapper are very different from gutsy, so you can't use the package
[10:24] <ikonia> nzero: as I asked, ckeep to the channel rules
[10:24] <wastrel> Ashfire908: yes.  a function would also have to be put in /etc/bash.bashrc
[10:24] <Seveas> sambagirl, hi :)
[10:24] <stefg> !backports
[10:24] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[10:24] <fhobia> stefg, ikonia: guess i have to try out this prevu thing
[10:24] <ikonia> fhobia I'd advise againstm, it, what package are you after ?
[10:24] <Gun_Smoke> danny: I found this in my first google search. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=321618
[10:24] <ikonia> fhobia: there maybe some other options
[10:25] <fhobia> ikonia: git scm...which is git-core, git-doc, git-arch ...and some others
[10:25] <ikonia> ahhhh yeah, git is a problem
[10:25] <fhobia> ikonia: need 1.5 for a feature i'm relying upon
[10:25] <ikonia> fhobia: fair enough, the best thing I can suggest (I assume you'll be fine with this as your using git) is to grab the gusty source package and rebuild on your LTS machine
[10:25] <MOTZ> any ideas?
[10:25] <ikonia> fhobia: that way it keeps your apt dependencies in track
[10:26] <gokhan_> hi i have a toshiba notebook satellite and i have an amd chipset but i dont know if ubuntu recognizes my wireless card because when type "lspci" command there is no network controller, so how do i know if ubuntu feisty is aware of my wireless cardP?
[10:26] <sambagirl> they removed the trash can from the desktop
[10:26] <sambagirl> grr
[10:26] <Gun_Smoke> danny:  And look at this.. I didn't read all the way through it. http://www.sudhian.com/index.php?/forums/viewthread/98254/
[10:26] <sambagirl> opps wrong window
[10:26] <swarm> I just moved a bunch of files from 1 server to another, and now when I ftp in, I can't modify any of the files that are there... what do i need to chown them to?
[10:26] <fhobia> ikonia: ok, thanks for the tips
[10:26] <ikonia> swarm: you don't modify files with ftp
[10:26] <swarm> i need to overwrite a bunch of dirs
[10:27] <wastrel> sambagirl: you can get it back in gnome :] 
[10:27] <ikonia> swarm: so the target dir's need write access from the user your ftp'ing as
[10:27] <danny> Gun_smoke: I have already tried that, I put Div to 1,2,4,6,8,16,32 and nothing
[10:27] <swarm> yes
[10:27] <MOTZ> about keyring and gutsy
[10:27] <ikonia> MOTZ: gusty support is in #ubuntu+1
[10:27] <moparfan90> hello. i am trying to compile alsa and i get this. "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"        any ideas?
[10:27] <Black_Phoenix> Damn it
[10:27] <Seveas> !compiling | moparfan90
[10:27] <ubotu> moparfan90: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:27] <ikonia> MOTZ: you don't have a full build envionment
[10:27] <ikonia> oopsw
[10:27] <ikonia> moparfan90 you don't have a full build envionment
[10:27] <Ashfire908> Is it the standard to have commands be lowercase?
[10:28] <HellbreakerCCCP> yo i have a problem with my partition
[10:28] <Gun_Smoke> danny: I do not know anything about your problem.  Just googled some info for you.. I have a few minutes.
[10:28] <Seveas> Ashfire908, yes
[10:28] <MOTZ> so wait for full release ?
, what do i do to make it wor
[10:28] <MOTZ> and o
[10:28] <moparfan90> work
[10:28] <ikonia> hi Seveas didn't see you sneak in
[10:28] <HellbreakerCCCP> what mount point should i use for my partition?
[10:28] <MOTZ> do nothing ?
[10:28] <MOTZ> :)
[10:28] <RichW> I have a simple question! I have nvidia 8600. How do I rotate the screen?
[10:28] <Seveas> moparfan90, read what ubotu said :)
[10:28] <nzero> what does my screensavers not work
[10:28] <RichW> I want to turn my monitor around and rotate the screen.
[10:28] <Seveas> RichW, grab screen, rotate, put screen down
[10:28] <RichW> yes
[10:28] <Seveas> RichW, beware of cabling mess
[10:28] <nzero> lol
[10:29] <txoof> Is there a way to have an application start when gnome starts up?
[10:29] <RichW> problem is that you need to do it in drivers too
[10:29] <RichW> else its not properly rotated
[10:29] <ikonia> RichW are you using nvidia ?
[10:29] <RichW> physically..its no problem
[10:29] <RichW> yeah
[10:29] <HellbreakerCCCP> which mount point should i use for my parition?
[10:29] <nzero> txoof: go to sessions in system prefs
[10:29] <danny> gun_smoke: ahh ok ty for the seach but I am in need to some one that knows, how to fix things outside the instruction and more technical
[10:29] <nzero> run the command
[10:29] <Seveas> HellbreakerCCCP, depends on what's on it...
[10:29] <txoof> nzero: thanks
[10:29] <RichW> i find it easier to read PDF's if i rotate the screen
[10:29] <ikonia> RichW: if you ask some of the specialist guys in #nvidia they will tell you the option to rotate the screen at the driver level with xorg
[10:29] <HellbreakerCCCP>  /dos or /windows or make a new one?
[10:29] <Dialntone> can someone try connecting to my computer r_desktop
[10:30] <ikonia> RichW: its something like Option Mode Portrait
[10:30] <Gun_Smoke> danny: np.. Sorry I don't have more for you.
[10:30] <gokhan_> hi i have a toshiba notebook satellite and i have an amd chipset but i dont know if ubuntu recognizes my wireless card because when type "lspci" command there is no network controller, so how do i know if ubuntu feisty is aware of my wireless cardP?
[10:30] <Seveas> HellbreakerCCCP, /mnt/windows is standard
[10:30] <HellbreakerCCCP> ok well
[10:30] <nzero> so ikonia do you run gutsy with compiz going
[10:30] <HellbreakerCCCP> i want to keep my windows
[10:30] <blockcipher> My wmv and mpg play has stopped all of a sudden...any ideas?
[10:30] <Seveas> RichW, are you on gutsy? If so: that has a GUI for it. Else read the manpage for xrandr and try it
[10:30] <ikonia> nzero I don't run it on a main desktop, but I have 2 development machines running it
[10:30] <Dialntone> can someone try to connec tto my computer under VNC
[10:30] <txoof> nzero: hehe, couldn't find it.  The vnc window was too small :)
[10:30] <moparfan90> ok thank you
[10:30] <moparfan90> that works
[10:30] <HellbreakerCCCP> do i choose /dos or /windows
[10:30] <lxuser> hello, can someone help me with my card reader?
[10:30] <nzero> have you tried running a OpenGL screen saver with effects running
[10:31] <Ashfire908> how would i go about finding the source files used to build a package for ubuntu?
[10:31] <lxuser> it previously worked.
[10:31] <Dialntone> screw it
[10:31] <Seveas> HellbreakerCCCP, /mnt/windows is standard, but frankly, anything will do. You can even call it /pie
[10:31] <HellbreakerCCCP> ok thanks
[10:31] <wastrel> Ashfire908: apt-get source packagename
[10:31] <HellbreakerCCCP>  /USSR
[10:31] <ikonia> nzero: I think I've got that running yes, if you want to chat about gusty jump in to #ubuntu+1 and I'd be happy to chat
[10:31] <Seveas> HellbreakerCCCP, that'll work :)
[10:31] <lxuser> lspci tells me its a Texas Instruments PCIxx21
[10:31] <Ashfire908> wastrel, where will it put it
[10:31] <wastrel> current directory iirc
[10:32] <RichW> theres a rotation option in system --> preferences --> screen resolution
[10:32] <RichW> but its greyed out
[10:32] <ikonia> RichW: it can be done at the driver level
[10:32] <Seveas> RichW, then your driver probably doesn't support it
[10:32] <lxuser> hello, can someone help me with my card reader?
[10:32] <RichW> do i need to use 2d open source ones?
[10:32] <stefg> !info xrandr
[10:32] <ubotu> xrandr: X Rotation, Reflection and Resize utility. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 9 kB, installed size 60 kB
[10:32] <westjd> Does anyone know why my graphics screw up when I shut my laptop lid and reopen it/
[10:32] <Seveas> RichW, upgrading to gutsy might help there, graphics drivers are in a boost
[10:32] <Black_Phoenix> Hey guys, can you help with this one: when system boots it checks all filesystems. Everytime. It takes bloody ages, is there any way to disable this boot step, or somehow fix it?
[10:33] <ikonia> RichW: its something like Option Mode Landscape the guys in #nvidia will know it off the top of their head
[10:33] <RichW> #nvidia seems kinda dead
[10:33] <IhateCLI> Hello, I'm having trouble getting "from{k=1} to{n-1]  f(x,k)" to display correctly in openoffice. It's supposed to be the sum "f(x,1)+f(x,2)+...+f(x,n-1)"
[10:33] <wastrel> westjd: you're probably using binary drivers and they don't support suspend/resume
[10:33] <ikonia> RichW: they do wake up, and are nice guys, promise
[10:33] <lxuser> hello, can someone help me with my card reader?
[10:33] <BobSapp> join #xgl
[10:33] <BobSapp> ...
[10:33] <BobSapp> opps
[10:33] <westjd> can I just make it so that shutting my laptop does nothing but turn the monitor off?
[10:33] <RichW> Oh yeah
[10:33] <RichW> i have gutsy
[10:34] <lxuser> hello, can someone help me with my card reader?
[10:34] <wastrel> gusty support is on #ubuntu+1
[10:34] <lxuser> oops
[10:34] <Seveas> westjd, yes, system -> preferences -> power management
[10:34] <westjd> thanks!
[10:34] <_MrPink_> so only 11 days until Gusty ?
[10:34] <RichW> I really want to know if open source drivers do this better because there will be new open source drivers for ATI cards
[10:34] <ePax> how can i get my "terminal" just to show last directory that i'm in not all of them?
[10:34] <IhateCLI> Please, can anyone help me with the Open office formula displayer thing?
[10:34] <lxuser> hello, can someone help me with my card reader?
[10:34] <ePax> terminal = console
[10:34] <Seveas> !repeat | lxuser
[10:34] <ubotu> lxuser: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:34] <net-seyate> !patience
[10:34] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:35] <wastrel> ePax: you need to edit your PS1 environment variable
[10:35] <RichW> gutsy is one of the best releases ive used
[10:35] <wastrel> ePax: review the PROMPTING section in man bash
[10:35] <Prez_> anyone have their xchat crash in feisty when joinging a channel on undernet?
[10:35] <ePax> wastrel: Ok.
[10:35] <Prez_> what could i check?  it only happens with undernet
[10:36] <Seveas> Prez_, any special plugins/scripts installed?
[10:36] <HellbreakerCCCP> WTF
[10:36] <HellbreakerCCCP> No root file system is defined.
[10:36] <Prez_> Seveas: nothing, stock x-chat, with whatever updates have happend normally
[10:36] <kst> is there a command to put something into the clipboard?
[10:36] <Seveas> Prez_, odd -- never seen it happen
[10:37] <Seveas> and I'm pretty much always on undernet :)
[10:37] <wastrel> kst: xclip  and probably others
[10:37] <kst> th
[10:37] <kst> x
[10:37] <Prez_> Seveas: undernet pops up an enter channel option on x-chat, i input a channel, say costarica and it crashes x-caht
[10:37] <Seveas> Prez_, ah, try adding a few channels to the autojoin entry of undernet
[10:38] <kst> how do i find out what clipboard is running? when i type xclipboard i get an error saying some other clipboard was already running..
[10:38] <ikonia> Prez_: thats a known bug, I've seen it a few times and I'm sure its logged, its nothing to do with undernet, just the autojoin function
[10:38] <HellbreakerCCCP> what does this mean
[10:38] <jbish> man it's impossible to get help in any other ubuntu channel
[10:38] <IhateCLI> Can anyone please help me with Openoffice?
[10:38] <HellbreakerCCCP> No root file system defined
[10:38] <Prez_> Seveas: I just went in to edit undernet settings, bam, crah
[10:38] <HellbreakerCCCP> how would i define it
[10:39] <_Zeus_> I have this line show up when I do ps -ef -ww|grep X
[10:39] <jbish> anyone know FPIT drivers
[10:39] <_Zeus_> matthew   5616  5562  0 16:24 ?        00:00:00 /bin/sh /usr/share/xserver-xgl/Xgl-lockfile-wrapper :1 -accel xvbuffer -accel glxbuffer -nolisten tcp -fullscreen -br +xinerama
[10:39] <_Zeus_> how do I remove the arg -nolisten tcp from that process?
[10:39] <zomgoblinz> I recently dist-upgraded to gutsy and now I can no longer ssh into the box remotely, anyone know why?
[10:39] <zomgoblinz> i didn't change any settings
[10:40] <wastrel> kst:  xclip != xclipboard
[10:40] <jbish> anyone know anything about fpit drivers
[10:40] <Seveas> zomgoblinz, is openssh-server still installed?
[10:40] <_Zeus_> anyone know how to fix this?
[10:40] <_Zeus_> matthew   5616  5562  0 16:24 ?        00:00:00 /bin/sh /usr/share/xserver-xgl/Xgl-lockfile-wrapper :1 -accel xvbuffer -accel glxbuffer -nolisten tcp -fullscreen -br +xinerama
[10:40] <zomgoblinz> Seveas, yes
[10:40] <_Zeus_> how do I remove the arg -nolisten tcp from there?
[10:41] <danny> LM_Sensor is not reading Fan Speed! some one help me thanks
[10:41] <zomgoblinz> Seveas, i even recently upgraded it again, removed it and reinstalled it
[10:41] <zomgoblinz> same problem
[10:41] <jbish> !!! pm if you know anything about fpit drivers
[10:41] <ikonia> danny: ok - what have you done so far, installed and ran the configure script to get your chip sets ?
[10:41] <_Zeus_> anyone know how to remove that arg?
[10:41] <ikonia> danny: have you checked if your chipset is supported
[10:41] <Goop> !opera > Goop
[10:41] <jbish> !!! pm if you know anything about fpit drivers
[10:41] <ikonia> _Zeus_: I know how to stop asking the same question ever 20 seconds
[10:41] <ikonia> jbish just ask the question in public
[10:41] <Seveas> zomgoblinz, did you install a firewall packages (firestarter, shorewall) or manually define firewall rules? check with: sudo iptables -L
[10:42] <_Zeus_> ikonia: that doesn't help, thanks :-/
[10:42] <jbish> PROBLEM: programs dont run when connected to wireless network
[10:42] <zomgoblinz> Seveas, nope :p  I just distupgraded unless Gutsy sets up iptables and a firewall?
[10:42] <xjkx> what to do when your nic doesnt work
[10:42] <ikonia> jbish: do you have general network connectivity over wirless network ?
[10:42] <Seveas> zomgoblinz, run the command I gave to check
[10:42] <Gin> I have a VIDEO_TS directory and I don't think it has a TOC. I'm trying to rip to ogg with dvdrip, but dvdrip keeps complaining TOC not found. any other tool to use to rip or any work around?
[10:43] <HellbreakerCCCP> how do i DEFINE ROOT FILE SYSTEM
[10:43] <Seveas> it should say ACCEPT for all policies and no further rules
[10:43] <ikonia> !caps >HellbreakerCCCP
[10:43] <jbish> ikonia: yes it do
[10:43] <HellbreakerCCCP> i thought i just did that
[10:43] <Seveas> HellbreakerCCCP, you're installing Ubuntu?
[10:43] <kst> wastrel but can i use the clipboard that is already installed? i'd need to know what it is called then
[10:43] <danny> ikonia: yea, I have done sensors-detect , finished that part, then It did not read rpm so I read to do  sudo gedit /etc/sensors.conf , found my chipsets line, and changed the div to 1,2,4,6,16  and so on and nothing showed rpm
[10:43] <ikonia> jbish ok, so which applications are not working over wirless
[10:43] <Seveas> HellbreakerCCCP, make sure you give it its own partition to format and install stuff on
[10:43] <zomgoblinz> Seveas, also Gutsy doesnt detect my usb devices such as my printer and camera now, they used to show up in /media
[10:43] <Ashfire908> HellbreakerCCCP, celect it and set the mount point to /
[10:43] <hvgotcodes> hey i just installed cobra gtk2 theme via the theme manager, but no noticable changes are seen...
[10:43] <wastrel> kst: xclip provides command-line access to the existing x clipboard
[10:43] <ikonia> danny is your chipset supported ?
[10:43] <zomgoblinz> Seveas, sec checking ip tables
[10:43] <HellbreakerCCCP> ok
[10:44] <jbish> ikonika: no programs jsut dont run. i cant open terminal, firefox you nameit
[10:44] <ikonia> danny before we start digging, its good to know
[10:44] <kst> wastrel cant access it without xclip?
[10:44] <_Zeus_> when I do ps -ef -ww|grep X i get this line: matthew   5616  5562  0 16:24 ?        00:00:00 /bin/sh /usr/share/xserver-xgl/Xgl-lockfile-wrapper :1 -accel xvbuffer -accel glxbuffer -nolisten tcp -fullscreen -br +xinerama
[10:44] <HellbreakerCCCP> let me give this another try
[10:44] <wastrel> kst: dunno
[10:44] <_Zeus_> how do I remove the -nolisten tcp arg from that process?
[10:44] <Seveas> !repeat | _Zeus_
[10:44] <ubotu> _Zeus_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:44] <kahrytan> !gutdy
[10:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gutdy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:44] <kahrytan> !gutsy
[10:44] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[10:44] <ikonia> jbish what do you mean, you actually can't open a terminal window, or you can't connect to anything from within a terminal
[10:44] <danny> ikonia: how do I find out for sure, I read some were this is speed fans script or w/e and speed fan worked in windows
[10:44] <Seveas> zomgoblinz, are you still in the plugdev group?
[10:45] <ikonia> danny you're not using windows, check the lm-sensors site and see if you chipset is listed in the supported list for the version your running
[10:45] <zomgoblinz> Seveas, didnt change that but how do I add my user to it again?
[10:45] <zomgoblinz> since adding it again wont hurt
[10:45] <jbish> ikonia: when i click on any icon in the gui nothing runs , even when i do alt f2 and run the command, nothing happens
[10:45] <Seveas> zomgoblinz, adduser your_username plugdev
[10:45] <ikonia> jbish ok, when you disable the wirless network card, does it work ?
[10:45] <zomgoblinz> Seveas, also my iptables -L shows ACCEPT to all
[10:46] <jbish> ikonia: yes everyint work find when it's not connected
[10:46] <Seveas> zomgoblinz, pastebin the output of the commands 'id' (for the usb devices problem) and 'netstat -ltn' (for ssh)
[10:46] <kahrytan> Hello Seveas
[10:46] <ikonia> jbish thats bizare, I can only suggest that something like pam is trying to do a network auth before opening any apps, 1.) check your resolv.conf file for your dns servers and make sure its reachable by the ip address your machine has got when on the wirless network
[10:47] <ikonia> jbish boot into non-graphical mode to check
[10:47] <kahrytan> Seveas, do you remember that grub issue i had awhile back?
[10:47] <danny> Ikonia: I send you an IM
[10:47] <Seveas> kahrytan, we're helping a zillion people a day, I don't think I remember any of them :)
[10:47] <lunz> guys,i still cant change my resolution more that 800 x 600?
[10:47] <ikonia> danny I'm not using an Instant messanger
[10:47] <danny> ikonia: a PM then w/e you want to call it
[10:47] <lunz> i already reconfigure my xserver but still didnt work
[10:48] <jbish> ok thx
[10:48] <ikonia> danny I've not recived it, don't send me unasked for Pm's thats what the channel is there for
[10:48] <kahrytan> Seveas, the one you couldnt fix.
[10:48] <danny> ikonia: smsc47m1-isa-0800
[10:48] <danny> Adapter: ISA adapter
[10:48] <danny> fan1:        0 RPM  (min = 5120 RPM, div = 2)
[10:48] <danny> fan2:        0 RPM  (min = 5120 RPM, div = 2)
[10:48] <frylock^> how do i need to write eth0 down in /etc/network/interfaces?
[10:49] <ikonia> danny why are you showing me that ?
[10:49] <frylock^> how can i configure it that is, i want it just to get all the details from dhcp
[10:49] <danny> ikonia: does that not help you?
[10:49] <Seveas> kahrytan, there are a zillion problems I can't fix, I don't think I ... well, you get the idea :)
[10:49] <ikonia> frylock^: was it you having the problem the other day where the card was going to eth1
[10:49] <Ashfire908> danny, did you use the fan control program?
[10:49] <ikonia> danny I asked you to go and check if you chipset was supported - you've just pasted me no fan speeds
[10:49] <frylock^> ikonia: no the problem was that the cd-rom was sucky, it didn't work in windoze either
[10:49] <danny> ashfire908: whats that?
[10:49] <frylock^> ikonia: i went office-space on it :)
[10:50] <tim167> is there a way to do 'pidof firefox-bin' and 'sudo kill xxxx' in one command ?
[10:50] <Ashfire908> danny, pwnconfig
[10:50] <ScorpKing> i have a local apt-move repo. can i use it in gusty later and just download the updates?
[10:50] <frylock^> ikonia: i have another problem, it's that my wifi adapter doesn't work
[10:50] <Ashfire908> danny, *pwmconfig
[10:50] <kahrytan> Seveas,  your just messing around now
[10:50] <astro76> tim167, killall firefox-bin
[10:50] <silent> VLC and totem-xine give segmentation faults, but gstreamer doesnt. any reason why this would be?
[10:50] <danny> Ikonia: smsc47m1 is in the config file
[10:50] <ikonia> frylock^: apologies, I thought you where someone else
[10:50] <tim167> thanks astro76
[10:50] <ikonia> danny: thats not what I asked, is it supported is what I asked
[10:50] <txoof> So, the default configuration that vnc4server uses is really annoying.
[10:51] <danny> ikonia ok
[10:51] <danny> ashfire908: Found the following fan sensors:
[10:51] <danny>    9191-0800/fan1_input     current speed: 0 ... skipping!
[10:51] <danny>    9191-0800/fan2_input     current speed: 0 ... skipping!
[10:51] <jbish> ANOTHER PROBLEM: anyone have experience with fpit drivers
[10:51] <sampson> i'm using kubuntu and i deleted some stuff that was on my desktop via console and now there's icons of them with locks and when i try to delete the icons it says Blah.Desktop not found and refreshing my desktop is not making them go away....any ideas?
[10:51] <kahrytan> danny, stop using multiple lines please :-P
[10:52] <sampson> they don't exist in the Desktop folder either
[10:52] <ikonia> !caps >jbish
[10:52] <Ashfire908> danny, i was not saying to run it. i was wn\ondering IF you ran it, because it can stop the fans and then not start them
[10:52] <foug> will 7.10 have Pidgin in it's repositories? Or will it sitll be gaim only?
[10:52] <Seveas> foug, pidgin
[10:52] <foug> sweeet
[10:52] <ikonia> jbish: you've been asked about caps now, 3 times
[10:52] <wastrel> jbish: nobody knows what fpit drivers are.  you could state your actual problem and we could try to apply general principles
[10:53] <jbish> another prolem: any expernece with fpit drivers anyone
[10:53] <jbish> tablet pc under ubuntu
[10:53] <danny> ashfire908: lol dont worrie I can hear if the fan turns off its loud as hell lol
[10:53] <ikonia> jbish its nothing to do with drivers
[10:53] <ikonia> jbish askt the question
[10:53] <jbish> how to get tablet pc woking with ubuntu
[10:53] <kahrytan> foug,  or just goto getdeb and get pidgin in feisty
[10:54] <abudliounited> hurrrrrrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[10:54] <abudliounited> i'm in
[10:54] <abudliounited> hi
[10:54] <ikonia> !offtopic >abudliounited
[10:54] <fhobia> ikonia: so after i build my binary package of git, how do i swap it with the existing git on my system ?
[10:54] <kahrytan> ikonia,  saying hi isn't o4o
[10:54] <ikonia> kahrytan he said more than hi
[10:54] <macogw> foug: dont use getdeb.net's pidgin.
[10:54] <jbish> guess noone knows
[10:55] <kahrytan> macogw,  It works just fine
[10:55] <Seveas> fhobia, sudo dpkg -i git*.deb
[10:55] <Ashfire908> danny, you loaded the drivers, right?
[10:55] <ikonia> jbish you've not asked a question apart from saying "ubuntu tablet PC"
[10:55] <macogw> foug: its reverse dependencies arent built correctly and, i suppose depending on which plugins you have enabled, it will use 700MB of memory
[10:55] <abudliounited> I have a dualboot xp and ubunt but ubuntu doesn't boot up anymore
[10:55] <macogw> kahrytan: no it doesnt
[10:55] <kahrytan> macogw, then fix it.
[10:55] <Seveas> abudliounited, what's the error you get?
[10:56] <jbish> actually look about 10 lines under that statement you quoted
[10:56] <Ashfire908> danny, do your fans support monitoring?
[10:56] <ikonia> Ashfire908 I've asked this question of him and I'm still waiting for a response
[10:56] <Ashfire908> how do i unhide the menu bar in xchat
[10:56] <abudliounited> no error,
[10:56] <macogw> kahrytan: i dont want to repackage it (nor could i, i barely know anything about packaging), and i've since stopped using feisty.  it's better to just build it from source
[10:56] <zomgoblinz> Seveas, http://pastebin.com/m1d45c37f
[10:56] <Seveas> Ashfire908, <ctrl><F9>
[10:56] <abudliounited> just a dark screen with the cursor with i can see and move
[10:57] <kahrytan> macogw, aren't you gutsy.
[10:57] <danny> asfire908: how do I know if I loaded the drivers?
[10:57] <lunz> !resolution
[10:57] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:57] <Ashfire908> danny, one sec let me find the program
[10:57] <ikonia> danny check if its supported
[10:57] <MilesPrower> I have an interesting perdiciment. My screen isn't the best of them, but when I goto Resolution to switch resolution so it works, the only option is 640x480...is there any way to get more of them?
[10:58] <magoo> linux??
[10:58] <Seveas> zomgoblinz, you're missing a few groups -- here's my 'id' output uid=1000(dennis) gid=1000(dennis) groups=20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(scanner),112(netdev),113(lpadmin),115(powerdev),117(admin),119(fuse),1000(dennis)
[10:58] <macogw> kahrytan: yes.  on feisty he getdeb.net pidgin deb jumped to > 700MB memory usage within 5 seconds.  i use gutsy now, and pidgin is in here by default. there's no point packaging it for feisty now
[10:58] <danny> ikonia: for my chip on the motherboard I looked at it yes. LPC47M10x,  yes  smsc47m1  2.6.4  2.6.9  (2004-07-21) Super I/O with fan monitor and PWM control. Ported to Linux 2.6 by Gabriele Gorla and Jean Delvare.
[10:58] <foug> what version of gnome does 7.04 use?
[10:58] <ikonia> danny mega, well done
[10:58] <Ashfire908> danny: sudo sensors-detect
[10:58] <danny> ikonia: :)
[10:58] <Seveas> zomgoblinz, regarding the ssh problem, I'm pretty much out of ideas
[10:59] <jbish> ich haba keine freund en die zimmer
[10:59] <danny> ashfire908: I have done that
[10:59] <zomgoblinz> Seveas, yeah i've stripped down ubuntu quite a bit
[10:59] <abudliounited> is there someone who had a boot problem?
[10:59] <Ashfire908> danny, did you say yes to everything?
[10:59] <macogw> !de | jbish
[10:59] <ubotu> jbish: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:59] <kahrytan> macogw,  5 seconds you say....
[10:59] <pinocheckio> i can't use xchat gnome, it crashes immediatly when i want to start-up, even reinstall didn't work. so i'm using koversation, but i liked xchat more...
[10:59] <zomgoblinz> Seveas, all those groups aren't needed after eliminating a lot of the bloat from the base install
[10:59] <danny> ashfire908: yes I did yes to everything
[11:00] <Seveas> zomgoblinz, ah, you probably removed a bit too much then
[11:00] <macogw> kahrytan: not the first time i used it.  i had it installed for about a month or so, and then that started happening
[11:00] <kahrytan> macogw, proove it.
[11:00] <zomgoblinz> Seveas, i only have a 32Gig HD
[11:00] <zomgoblinz> heh
[11:00] <MilesPrower> Would anyone be able to help with my resolution prob? I tried to switch but the only option when I go to the Resolution screen is 640x480
[11:00] <Seveas> zomgoblinz, are you on feisty
[11:00] <zomgoblinz> Gutsy now
[11:00] <macogw> kahrytan: prove it?  how? i uninstalled it and have changed distro versions since then
[11:00] <kahrytan> macogw,  you must use it allot?
[11:00] <zomgoblinz> i want to downgrade back
[11:00] <Ashfire908> danny, it's either your fans or ubuntu
[11:00] <zomgoblinz> but i was told it will break stuff
[11:00] <Seveas> zomgoblinz, that's next to impossible
[11:00] <zomgoblinz> Seveas, why?
[11:00] <Seveas> dpkg/apt don't really support downgrading
[11:01] <kahrytan> macogw, isnt that called memory leak?
[11:01] <zomgoblinz> Seveas, what happens just change source.list?
[11:01] <oxy> hey guys, i'm having following problem with linux ubuntu 7.04: i installed it without any problems, but now when i try to boot it in the boot menu (i've got a dual boot system with windows xp) the monitor simply turns off (it says "no signal" and goes into standby). i can only get back to the boot menu by pressing the reset button on my computer. any ideas? thanks!
[11:01] <danny> ashfire908: ;(
[11:01] <jbish> .
[11:01] <zomgoblinz> and dist upgrade
[11:01] <Seveas> zomgoblinz, nothing :)
[11:01] <justme> does someone has a hp dv9033cl ?
[11:01] <macogw> kahrytan: it happened once while i was not near my computer that it was using >70% of memory and my computer was near to locking up.  i managed to kill pidgin (oy it was using so much memory that getting a terminal open was a pain)
[11:01] <lunz> i already reconfigure my xserver but still didnt work. i still cant change my resolution..anyone can help?
[11:01] <guardian> please, i just installed ubuntu server and put a drupal site in /var/www/drupal. which chown should i apply to the /var/www/drupal directory and sub directories in order to allow drupal to write in /var/www/drupal/files ??? i tried www-data but it did not work
[11:01] <zomgoblinz> Seveas, will it break dependancy chains?
[11:01] <jbish> is there another ubuntu channel
[11:01] <zomgoblinz> yes jbish
[11:01] <Ashfire908> Danny, have you been able to read the fan speeds before?
[11:01] <zomgoblinz>  /quit
[11:01] <Seveas> zomgoblinz, no, it simply won't do anythong since the versions of packages that are already installed are higher than available in the feisty repos
[11:01] <macogw> kahrytan: when i started it up again, it *immediately* went back to using 700MB of ram and i complained of it on here.  someone, jdong i think, told me to build it from source because it was likely to have been mispackaged.  when built from source it ran perfectly
[11:02] <zomgoblinz> heh
[11:02] <zomgoblinz> oh ok
[11:02] <frylock^> problem: don't have network. i can see only loopback in ifconfig -a, however i can see my network card (RTL8139) in lshw as network: UNCLAIMED. i wrote auto eth0\n iface eth0 inet dhcp in /etc/network/interfaces, when i go sudo ifup eth0 it says SIOCSIFADDR: no such device. i looked it up and it said to find the proper module. i found 8139too, i went sudo modprobe 8139too (passed with no output), but sudo ifup eth0 still gaves the same re
[11:02] <kahrytan> macogw, I should build it then
[11:02] <abudliounited> I have a problem to boot up ubuntu
[11:02] <danny> ashfire908: yes in windows
[11:02] <Ashfire908> danny, then it's probaly ubuntu
[11:03] <BlackCow> im going nuts here, im trying to use x-win to SSH into a linux server over my LAN, im afraid I dont know what I am doing because I keep getting the error "xterm Xt error: Can't open display." anyone have any clue whats going on?
[11:03] <abudliounited> xp boot ok
[11:03] <MilesPrower> Would anyone be able to help with my resolution prob? I tried to switch but the only option when I go to the Resolution screen is 640x480
[11:03] <MilesPrower> On Ubuntu.
[11:03] <xjkx> i need build-essential and kernel header...how can i get it and all its dependencies ? I have no network at all in the machine, i'd like to download on windows and install
[11:03] <Seveas> BlackCow, sis you use 'ssh -X' when connecting to the remote host?
[11:03] <Ashfire908> danny, wait until gusty is released (not the beta, the stable release), upgrade and see if you can get ti to work
[11:03] <B-rat> killer got killed
[11:03] <abudliounited> no error only a dark screen
[11:03] <B-rat> xD
[11:03] <BlackCow> yeah tried ssh -X
[11:04] <Gin> I have a video_ts directory, how do you convert it AVI?
[11:04] <BobSapp> BlackCow: you have to allow the remote machine to access your local xserver did you do that?
[11:04] <jdong> Seveas: you mean ssh -Y right :)
[11:04] <Seveas> jdong, eww no
[11:04] <Seveas> jdong, only use that for broken software for which you sadly have no replacement
[11:04] <BlackCow> I dont think so, how would I do that?
[11:04] <RichW> will 8.04 have new open source ati drivers?
[11:05] <nomas> how can i install a GTK theme from gnome-look?
[11:05] <jdong> Seveas: lol ;-)
[11:05] <Seveas> RichW, if they are in a decent shape by then, yes
[11:05] <BobSapp> I dont remember something like xauth +host
[11:05] <kst> could use some help with xclip and gmusicbrowser... i'm trying to run "xclip -i < echo %t %a" to make it copy my currently played track and artist into clipboard... but it doesnt work :(
[11:05] <RichW> Seveas: You a betting man? what are the odds?
[11:05] <BlackCow> says xauth not installed
[11:05] <frylock^> problem: don't have network. i can see only loopback in ifconfig -a, however i can see my network card (RTL8139) in lshw as network: UNCLAIMED. i wrote auto eth0\n iface eth0 inet dhcp in /etc/network/interfaces, when i go sudo ifup eth0 it says SIOCSIFADDR: no such device. i looked it up and it said to find the proper module. i found 8139too, i went sudo modprobe 8139too (passed with no output), but sudo ifup eth0 still gaves the same re
[11:05] <BlackCow> sudo apt get I guess
[11:05] <kahrytan> Seveas, Could you run a gui over ssh?
[11:05] <Seveas> RichW, I don't bet when I'm uninformed -- I know they have some code that can do basic modesetting but that's it
[11:05] <Seveas> kahrytan, yes
[11:06] <abudliounited> how I can boot ubuntu in save mode? if there is this option
[11:06] <kahrytan> Seveas, even if server client isnt running xorg?
[11:06] <kahrytan> oops just server
[11:06] <danny> ashfire908: the fan was off and I did not know, I went to unplug a cable behind the comp and say a crap load of dust, so I clened it out, and the fan was not spinning, it was pluuged into Fan2 is what it says on the mobo and it refuses to spin when connected to that, ether Fan1 or Fan4 which are in reach of the cpu fan cable, and Fan 3 is no were to be found. Fan2 might of just broke or something to do with linux
[11:07] <moparfan90> hello. i have a dell inspiron 1521. and i dont have any sound. can someone please help me fix this
[11:07] <Seveas> kahrytan, client needs to run an X server, server needs to have the gui (eg xterm) installed
[11:07] <kahrytan> Seveas,  or whatever it is called. Server w/o gnome or xwindows.
[11:07] <Jbir1> I need help with ndiswrapper
[11:07] <stefg> !sound | moparfan90:
[11:07] <ubotu> moparfan90:: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:07] <BlackCow> ok so i installed xauth and now when I connect its saying creating new authority file and just sitting there, ill keep waiting
[11:07] <Jbir1> Fiesty stole my network connection
[11:07] <Seveas> Jbir1, sue it
[11:07] <RichW> Seveas: Haha!
[11:07] <Jbir1> I need help getting netgear WG311 working
[11:07] <Jbir1> I had it working fine in Edgy
[11:08] <Ashfire908> danny, go into the bios at startup. while the setup screen is up, check the fan to see if it is spinning. if it is not, your fan is broken.
[11:08] <BlackCow> oh it failed
[11:08] <kahrytan> Seveas, installed or running?
[11:08] <abudliounited> ubotu: do you know how I can boot ubuntu in save mode??
[11:08] <octoberdan> How would I remove nongroup rw permissions from a file/directory?
[11:08] <octoberdan> I still want group members to be able to read and write, but that's it
[11:08] <secher> guys, im on a laptop, and have set the power settings so that the screen just shuts down when i close the it.. but suddenly it prompts a password when i open it again.. anyone know how to turn that of?
[11:08] <BlackCow> well im glad its something different now, am i missing another file?
[11:08] <RichW> Jbir1: We will require a lsusb -v or lspci -v.. depending on if its usb or pci, put it in a pastebin
[11:08] <quack> are you using grub as a boot manager?
[11:08] <danny> ashfire908: fans working but will not work plugged into Fan2 on the mobo , ill have to test it, Thanks for all the help
[11:08] <Gun_Smoke> #ubuntu when I first started would only have ~150 - 300 on the channel.. Today there is over 1205 as I type
[11:08] <BlackCow> i keep having to sudo-apt get, why cant evrything I need to SSH be installed
[11:08] <Seveas> kahrytan, X server running on client
[11:09] <kahrytan> Seveas,  on server.
[11:09] <RichW> Jbir1: Put output in a pastebin
[11:09] <jan__> I have an ad-hoc network set up. wlan0 on A is connected to the Internet. wlan1 for the internal network. From a computer B, which connects to A's wlan1, dns lookups work. ping to the internet works, but http, etc do not work. What do I need to do?
[11:09] <Seveas> kahrytan, no X server needed there
[11:09] <RichW> Jbir1: sorry i mean put commands in terminal
[11:09] <Seveas> kahrytan, the X clients on the server connect to the X server on the client
[11:09] <abudliounited> is there someone who knows how to boot ubuntu in a save mode??
[11:09] <kahrytan> Seveas,  you said  server needs to have the gui (eg xterm) installed
[11:09] <secher> guys, im on a laptop, and have set the power settings so that the screen just shuts down when i close the it.. but suddenly it prompts a password when i open it again.. anyone know how to turn that of?
[11:09] <BobSapp> BlackCow: sorry are you trying to get into another ubuntu system using X?
[11:09] <Jbir1> I updated and ti won't work
[11:09] <Seveas> kahrytan, xterm is an X client, not an X server
[11:09] <Jbir1> I jsut want it to start my connection
[11:09] <BlackCow> no im using a windows program x-win to connect to an ubuntu machine
[11:10] <Ashfire908> danny, you are welcome
[11:10] <fhobia> if pbuilder has a problem with a dependency...what do i do next ?
[11:10] <BobSapp> thinking....
[11:10] <BobSapp> BlackCow: ahh
[11:10] <xjkx> i need the firmware of my wireless network card, what should i do
[11:10] <Jbir1> I think the new network stuff breakes it
[11:10] <BobSapp> BlackCow: you need to allow the remote ubuntu machine to connect to your windows one
[11:10] <Seveas> kahrytan, in case you didn't know yet: X is a client/server protocol. Oversimplified it can be described as: the clients send drawing requests to the server, the server controls the hardware
[11:10] <kahrytan> Seveas, Does the server have to run a gui binaries or can it text in terminal
[11:11] <BlackCow> how?
[11:11] <kahrytan> *stay in terminal
[11:11] <Jbir1> It plain flat out just doesn't work
[11:11] <Jbir1> pisses me off to no end
[11:11] <moparfan90> i did the command "lspci -v" and i cant find my sound card in the list
[11:11] <moparfan90> can someone look over the list and see if i missed it
[11:11] <ikonia> Jbir1: there is no need for that language
[11:11] <_MrPink_> abudliounited you need help botting in safe mode?
[11:11] <yngone> hello do i make bh.sh not default
[11:11] <Seveas> kahrytan, server does not need an X server running -- so no gdm/kdm/X
[11:11] <yngone> bash.sh
[11:11] <BobSapp> BlackCow: Im not familiar with the xserver you are using in windows, but there should be some properties page that allows you to enter the hostname/ip of the ubuntu server as a trusted host
[11:11] <yngone> hello do i make bash.sh not default
[11:11] <_MrPink_> is safe mode = recovery mode ?
[11:11] <Seveas> moparfan90, pastebin the list
[11:11] <RichW> moparfan90: put output in a pastebin.. use google to find a pastebin
[11:12] <BlackCow> oh oh thats familiar, leme try that
[11:12] <RichW> Seveas: beat me to it
[11:12] <Seveas> !pastebin
[11:12] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:12] <secher> guys, im on a laptop, and have set the power settings so that the screen just shuts down when i close the it.. but suddenly it prompts a password when i open it again.. anyone know how to turn that of?
[11:12] <yngone>  ipkungfu
[11:12] <yngone> /usr/sbin/ipkungfu: 6: source: not found
[11:12] <yngone> /usr/sbin/ipkungfu: 12: source: not found
[11:12] <BobSapp> also what ssh program are you using?
[11:12] <yngone> whast this mean please
[11:12] <gowrav> Hi room i have downloaded a tar.gz file now and want to install it.... what should i do .. its Orphne adult web browser ;)
[11:12] <Jbir1> I cannot paste
[11:12] <Jbir1> I am on Windows now
[11:12] <Jbir1> becuase Ubuntu can't connect to the Internet anymore
[11:12] <phanter> hi all...
[11:12] <yngone>  ipkungfu
[11:12] <yngone> /usr/sbin/ipkungfu: 6: source: not found
[11:12] <yngone> /usr/sbin/ipkungfu: 12: source: not found
[11:12] <xjkx> i need the firmware of my wireless network card, what should i do
[11:12] <moparfan90> ok i pasted it. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39914/
[11:12] <BlackCow> yes it works!!!!!
[11:12] <kahrytan> Seveas, just figuring out if i could use slower computer as server. using command-line is major productivity slowdown.
[11:12] <_MrPink_> gowrav extract it... either right mouse on file -> extract or via terminal
[11:12] <RichW> Jbir1: Save in a text file and write the text file to your ntfs windows drive.
[11:13] <BlackCow> BoBSapp, i love you man
[11:13] <yngone> anyone know why thats happaning?
[11:13] <yngone> sorry for paste
[11:13] <Seveas> kahrytan, LTSP is doing exactly that :)
[11:13] <BobSapp> Your welcome
[11:13] <RichW> Jbir1: If you open Computer in nautilus you can find your drive
[11:13] <kahrytan> ltsp?
[11:13] <Seveas> moparfan90, 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia
[11:13] <gowrav> _MrPink_: where in /opt folder it says i don't have permission
[11:13] <yngone> anyone know whats wrong   ./ipkungfu isnt working
[11:13] <phanter> Anyone using mpd? Because I cannot get it to play streams. If I try to add a asx stream to it then it will not even place it in the playlist. Does anyone have an idea what could be wrong (google did not help me yet)?
[11:13] <yngone> its spitting out those errors
[11:13] <ikonia> yngone: there is no such command
[11:13] <Jbir1> I found my drive
[11:13] <Jbir1> now what?
[11:13] <BobSapp> now can someone tell me why my nvidia driver got broked after I updated ubuntu and restarted?
[11:14] <Seveas> phanter, it can only play mp3/ogg streams
[11:14] <yngone> ./ipkungfu
,ooo umm.... do you know how i can get this card to work
[11:14] <swarm> BobSapp, because the kernel updated
[11:14] <ikonia> yngone it doesn't exist on ubuntu
[11:14] <BobSapp> im pretty miffed because I had compiz working before the restart lol
[11:14] <FurryNemesis> secher, turn off the screensaver that's one option
[11:14] <moparfan90> i tried alot and nothing works so far
[11:14] <Seveas> moparfan90, no :)
[11:14] <yngone> i mean
[11:14] <swarm> BobSapp, did you use envy to install?
[11:14] <kahrytan> Seveas, ltsp?
[11:14] <yngone> sudo ipkungfu
[11:14] <BobSapp> swarm: yes
[11:14] <yngone> is spitting out that
[11:14] <ikonia> yngone: it doesn't exist on ubuntu
[11:14] <yngone> what doesnt?
[11:14] <ikonia> ipkungfu
[11:14] <swarm> BobSapp, so your comp crashes and goes to the command line?
[11:14] <ikonia> !info ipkungfu
[11:14] <ubotu> ipkungfu: iptables-based Linux firewall. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.2-8 (feisty), package size 34 kB, installed size 212 kB
[11:14] <RichW> Jbir1: Put your paste output in a text file... and write it to the windows drive.. boot into windows.. put in pastebin.. paste here
[11:14] <yngone> its a firewall
[11:14] <Seveas> kahrytan, linux terminal server -- dozens of slow machines and one fast server.
[11:14] <ikonia> yngone: hav eyou installed it ?
[11:14] <FurryNemesis> system>prefs>screensaver untick activate screensaver when comp is idle
[11:14] <yngone> i had it working last time i installed
[11:14] <Jbir1> I am in windows now
[11:14] <secher> furrynemesis, thx ill try that
[11:14] <BobSapp> yeah x keeps crashing im in CLI atm
[11:15] <Jbir1> I will have to use a memory stick
[11:15] <yngone> yes i installed via package manager
[11:15] <Jbir1> ah
[11:15] <swarm> BobSapp, sudo envy -t
[11:15] <ikonia> yngone: show me "dpkg -l | grep ipkung
[11:15] <Seveas> envy sucks...
[11:15] <FurryNemesis> tell me if it works
[11:15] <Seveas> better not use it
[11:15] <Coded1> i have a rage 128 on my machine and dmesg shows it as a 4x agp but puts it in 1x mode, needless to say the performance is pretty crappy and doing things like playing with windows draging them around crashes applications
[11:15] <yngone> ii  ipkungfu                                   0.5.2-8                                iptables-based Linux firewall
[11:15] <ikonia> Seveas: finally someone who agrees
[11:15] <Coded1> anyone know how to change the agp speed?
[11:16] <Seveas> yngone, pastebin that ./ipkungfu script
[11:16] <RichW> Jbir1: You have more problems than networking then.
[11:16] <ikonia> yngone: ok, I stand correct it appears installed. Is the ipkungfu binary in your current working directory
[11:16] <kahrytan> Seveas,  isn't what im talking about the opposite?
[11:16] <ikonia> ubuntu in the bios
[11:16] <_MrPink_> growav: try this in terminal:   sudo tar xzvf file.tar.gz
[11:16] <wolferine> what dir is the kernel source headers ?
[11:16] <ikonia> oosp
[11:16] <Jbir1> my usb works
[11:16] <ikonia> Coded1 in the bios
[11:16] <Jbir1> my networking doesn't
[11:16] <Seveas> kahrytan, well, you could do that as well
[11:16] <RichW> !info envy
[11:16] <ubotu> Package envy does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[11:16] <yngone> there is no ./ipkungfu script
[11:16] <kahrytan> !envy
[11:16] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[11:16] <Coded1> my bios doesnt support changing the agp speed
[11:16] <Coded1> :(
[11:16] <Seveas> wolferine, /usr/src/`uname -r`
[11:16] <yngone> it should run by command ipkungfu
[11:16] <IndyGunFreak> Envy, Automatix, Easyubuntu, et all, are great if you want to learn to reinstall.
[11:16] <Acorn22> but
[11:16] <ikonia> yngone thats why ./ipkungfu doesn't work. Find where it is
[11:16] <Coded1> its a dell dimension 8250
[11:17] <yngone> locate ./ipkungfu?
[11:17] <ikonia> yngone lovcate ipkungfu
[11:17] <wolferine> thanks Seveas
[11:17] <Goemtmet> When I change the Appearance of my Gnome Desktop in the Theme DIalog.. am I changing a GTK theme, a Compiz Theme (I'm using Compiz-fusion), or a Metacity theme??? I'm a bit confused and I want to download some themes from gnome-look..
[11:17] <ikonia> locate
[11:17] <ikonia> not ./ipkungfu - ipfungfu
[11:17] <yngone> nothing for locate ipkungfu
[11:17] <kahrytan> Seveas, I got older 1.4ghz cpu w/ mobo. and extra and older 10gb hdd.
[11:17] <_MrPink_> Did I understand it correctly, that it is easier to install windows first and then ubuntu (because the grub menu is erased if you install windows after ubuntu ) ?
[11:17] <yngone> goes to next line... but im in /etc/ipkungfu
[11:17] <FurryNemesis> _MrPink_, yep
[11:17] <stefg> !themes | Goemtmet
[11:17] <ubotu> Goemtmet: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[11:17] <ikonia> yngone: sudo find / -name ipkungfu -print 2>/devv/null
[11:17] <phanter> Is mpd capable of playing asx streams or should I enable that somewhere?
[11:17] <ikonia> yngone: sudo find / -name ipkungfu -print 2>/dev/null
[11:17] <RichW> Goemtmet: Use emerald in synaptic to get compiz themes.
[11:18] <alex_> can someone help me I was updating to gutsy today and laptop shutoff during the update. after mangling with a lived cd I was able to get it to update mostly
[11:18] <stefg> !changethemes > Goemtmet
[11:18] <_MrPink_> FurryNemesis  ok thanks... I think once 7.10 is officially released I will just do a system kill and reinstall windows and linux on one day ;)
[11:18] <alex_> now when I try to finish the update I keep getting errors from dpk about acpid
[11:18] <Seveas> alex_, pastebin the errors
[11:18] <yngone> ikonia   want me to paste bin results?
[11:18] <FurryNemesis> eek, good luck with that
[11:18] <Goemtmet> stefg: I know how to change themes.. I just want to know if I should download gtk themes, metacity themes or compiz themes
[11:18] <alex_> Seveas: k
[11:18] <RichW> yngone: I use sudo updatedb && locate whattofindhere
[11:18] <Goemtmet> i dont know which category should i get
[11:18] <ikonia> yngone it should only find one result
[11:18] <yngone> it foudn a few
[11:18] <yngone> can i pm u?
[11:19] <ikonia> yngone: no, put it in a pastbin
[11:19] <Acorn22> can someone help me with setting up samba?
[11:19] <Acorn22> i installed it on my linux computer
[11:19] <Acorn22> but i cant connect on my windows computer
[11:19] <Seveas> alex_, after your problem is fixed, it's a good idea to reinstall all packages to iron out other errors that this may have caused. Here's a handy oneliner for that: dpkg -l | awk '/^ii/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get install --reinstall
[11:19] <gowrav> do linux have any good adult content search web browser like heatsink for windows ;)
[11:20] <stefg> Goemtmet: all of them, because they apply to different aspects. metacity/compiz are the window managers o this applies to window decorations, gtk themes are for the wifgets, like buttons, sliders etc.
[11:20] <yngone> ikonia   http://pastebin.com/m356f21e4
[11:20] <phanter> the documentation does actually say that it should be able to play asx streams with the ffmpeg plugin, but I do not know how to get that in MPD
[11:20] <ikonia> gowrav pointless question
[11:20] <ikonia> yngone: "sudo /usr/sbin/ipkungfu"
[11:20] <Seveas> gowrav, you could try running heatsink via wine, but please be aware that we want to keep this channel PG13 or better
[11:21] <yngone> i get errors
[11:21] <yngone> ill paste pastebin
[11:21] <ikonia> yngone: pastebin them
[11:21] <heatman> hi.. im fomating my pc and i have 2 HD... one will have ubuntu installed and the other one will be used for storage... what type of partition should i use for that purpose?
[11:21] <alex_> Seveas, here is the link to it http://pastebin.com/m371b2c06
[11:21] <ikonia> heatman ext3 on both
[11:21] <heatman> ikonia: ok ty
[11:21] <yngone> ikonia   http://pastebin.com/m34e3fd9
[11:21] <Seveas> alex_, you're in a pickle there, installing the kernel failed
[11:21] <gowrav> ikonia: may be ... but linux is still behind in software availability !! and yes I don't want the room unclean .. but yes ..sorry .. it is my question.. and yes I'll not ask it again .. but if any body know can tell me ..
[11:21] <RichW> heatman: Use the default one.. the default is ext3.. ubuntu will do it all for you.
[11:22] <Seveas> alex_, /etc/init.d/acpid stop
[11:22] <Seveas> alex_, and then apt-get -f dist-upgrade
[11:22] <ikonia> yngone: are you sure you installed this via the package manager ?
[11:22] <Seveas> alex_, and pastebin all errors you get of course :)
[11:22] <yngone> yeah
[11:22] <Prowler_1> hello, using multi boot kanotix & ubuntu, can i add WinXP?
[11:22] <Comax> Hi Everyone
[11:22] <ikonia> yngone: have you made an ipkungfu configuration ?
[11:22] <mahrellon> Hi, do you guys know how to find out a harddrives/partitions UUID?
[11:22] <stefg> heatman: you could improve performance by cleverly parallizing partitions. So if you want it KISS, your approach is ok, but for performance you should have swap on both drives, and can use other tricks (or raid)
[11:22] <yngone> yeah
[11:22] <ikonia> yngone locate let
[11:23] <Prowler_1> multi boot kanotix & ubuntu, can i add WinXP?
[11:23] <ikonia> yngone: and locate source
[11:23] <ikonia> Prowler_1 yes you can
[11:23] <yngone> locate let?
[11:23] <ikonia> yngone yes
[11:23] <crimsun> mahrellon: sudo vol_id -u partition
[11:23] <kahrytan> mahrellon, it's in /dev
[11:23] <BobSapp> Prowler_1: If you add winxp you should backup your boot sector using one of the howto's online or make a ubuntu restore cd
[11:23] <mahrellon> Thanks you guys!
[11:23] <Seveas> mahrellon, sudo vol_id /dev/yourpartition
[11:23] <mahrellon> Thanks =)
[11:23] <BobSapp> Prowler_1: because most likley windows xp will rewrite your boot sector in its favour
[11:23] <Seveas> crimsun, gah :p
[11:23] <astro76> !fixgrub | Prowler_1
[11:23] <ubotu> Prowler_1: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:24] <yngone> ikonia   now what
[11:24] <ikonia> yngone did it find let ?
[11:24] <yngone> ikonia  it found a ton
[11:24] <yngone> ikonia  same with source
[11:24] <Seveas> (ikonia: source is a shell builting for bash, if it fails in a script: the script is probably using /bin/sh as interpreter whilst (ab)using bashisns like source)
[11:24] <alex_> Seveas, here is the link to it http://pastebin.com/m382f0f32 after stopping the acpid daemon and running the command to force the dist upgrade it still gives me the same errors
[11:24] <ikonia> yngone: can ou you pastebin ?
[11:25] <kahrytan> Seveas, How do you set labels on partitions?
[11:25] <ikonia> Seveas as as in "source /etc/profile"
[11:25] <ikonia> Seveas I wondered if it was an ipkungfu script
[11:25] <Seveas> ikonia, man e2label
[11:25] <yngone> found to much for my terminal
[11:25] <yngone> ikonia
[11:25] <Seveas> alex_, no you get different errors now
[11:25] <kahrytan> Raise your hand if you love Seveas
[11:25] <ikonia> Seveas yeah I know "source" thought it was ipkungfu propritary
[11:25] <Seveas> alex_, the acpid problem is now gone but the kernel problem is still their :)
[11:25] <Seveas> there*
[11:26] <Seveas> alex_, sudo dpkg -P linux-image-2.6.22-13-generic
[11:26] <Seveas> alex_, sudo dpkg -P --force-depends linux-image-2.6.22-13-generic
[11:26] <yngone> ikonia   i cant see everything it found to much for my terminal
[11:26] <Seveas> then sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.22-13-generic
[11:26] <Jbir1> where do I find pastebin?
[11:26] <ikonia> yngone Seveas made a valid point, check the shbang at the top of your ipkungfu script
[11:26] <Seveas> !pastebin | Jbir1
[11:26] <ubotu> Jbir1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:26] <yngone> shbang?
[11:27] <BobSapp> how strange envy seems to have halted, but i can startx in another term :)
[11:27] <ikonia> yngone: #!/bin/bash for example
[11:27] <Jbir1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39915/
[11:27] <theunixlaptop> okay i have alltray working with a transpartent background well when it i have it up on the desktop and i put another window behind it i can not see it just shows the desktop any help?
[11:27] <BobSapp> looks like python has entered an infinite loop
[11:27] <osito> hi, how do I restore the lower panel, it's gone from my screen? =(
[11:27] <yngone> ikonia   i dont understand
[11:27] <Seveas> osito, rightclick on the top panel and select new panel
[11:27] <concept_yuk> hi, can i use pidgin(gutsy package) in Feisty?
[11:28] <nomin> is breezy no longer supported?
[11:28] <Jbir1> what is wrong
[11:28] <alex_> Seveas, first command executed fine but the second complained about requesting to remove a package which isn't installed
[11:28] <Jbir1> What is wlan1:ava?
[11:28] <Jbir1> and why wlan1 not wlan0?
[11:28] <BobSapp> anyway  im outa here
[11:28] <ikonia> yngone look at the shebang line in your ipkungfu script
[11:28] <Seveas> osito, then add the 'show desktop' button, the window list, the desktop switcher and the trashcan to the bottom panel
[11:28] <yngone> ikonia   ipkungfu.conf?
[11:28] <Seveas> alex_, that's ok
[11:28] <osito> Seveas, thanks
[11:28] <ikonia> yngone: no - the script /usr/sbin/ipkungfu
[11:28] <alex_> I'm running apt-get -f dist-upgrade and it seems to be going fine now
[11:28] <stefg> concept_yuk: no, but getdeb.net has a feisty package afaik
[11:28] <yngone> pico /usr/sbin/ipkungfu?
[11:28] <Seveas> alex_, I was afraid the first wouldn't run, the second was a more agressive version of the first
[11:28] <osito> Seveas, is there an "automated" way?
[11:29] <OM1136> I have compiled beagle0.2.18 and installed, but there is no evolution backend. What to do to get that to work?
[11:29] <yngone> #!/bin/sh
[11:29] <yngone> # Run pre script
[11:29] <Buzdack_home> hi. plese help. I conected to internet. but web pages no downloading . Why ?
[11:29] <nomin> where are the breezy repositories located at?  Or are the breezy repos no longer available?
[11:29] <alex_> Seveas, thank you I was actually able to complete it properly now
[11:29] <concept_yuk> stefg is there 2.2.1 version?
[11:29] <Jbir1> I need to get on wireless right away
[11:29] <Seveas> alex_, after that is done, sudo apt-get install linux-generic
[11:29] <yngone> how do i make bin.sh
[11:29] <stefg> concept_yuk: don't know, look yourself
[11:29] <alex_> I'm going to reboot and check things out I appreciate your help
[11:29] <Jbir1> If I can't get on the Internet, I am going to have to uninstall Fiesty
[11:29] <concept_yuk> stefg, ok thanks.
[11:29] <osito> Seveas, actually I think there's a bug, the panel was there, but was invisible until I right clicked it
[11:30] <astro76> nomin, breezy is no longer supported, normal ones are 18 months and LTSs are 3 years
[11:30] <ikonia> yngone: seavas point is valid, its trying to use bourne shell, not bash or compatible shell
[11:30] <yngone> ikonia   how do i run bin sh
[11:30] <Seveas> osito, don't you have it on autohide or transparent? :)
[11:30] <nomin> astro76: ok.  I though breezy was supported for 3 years.
[11:30] <ikonia> yngone: you have sh on your system but it will be a symlink to another shell
[11:30] <osito> Seveas, how do I confirm, sorry n00b here =)
[11:30] <yngone> someone helped me beforce with some command that brought me to a blue screen
[11:30] <yngone> how do i do that ikonia
[11:30] <astro76> nomin, dapper 6.06 was the first LTS
[11:31] <BrianB04> Hey all, have a quick question: Does anyone have any idea why installing the ATI driver would cause X to totally lock up the system, not just x, but the system as well?
[11:31] <Seveas> osito, if it happens again it's probably your fault. If it doesn't: you found a bug which you can't reproduce. Either way, it sucks ;)
[11:31] <Prowler_1> I got multi boot kanotix & ubuntu, can i add WinXP?
[11:31] <Seveas> Prowler_1, yes
[11:31] <nomin> astro76: ok.  Thank you.
[11:31] <astro76> Prowler_1, many people answered you already
[11:31] <ikonia> yngone: do what ?
[11:31] <ikonia> Prowler_1 for the 3rd time - yes
[11:31] <Seveas> Prowler_1, but you'll have to reinstall grub
[11:31] <astro76> !fixgrub | Prowler_1
[11:31] <ubotu> Prowler_1: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:31] <osito> Seveas, anyhow, thanks on the tips
[11:31] <RichW> nomin: I would just upgrade to a LTS release.
[11:31] <yngone> ikonia   use sh
[11:31] <Prowler_1> ok thanks
[11:31] <foug> sim cards in phones are just microSD cards right?
[11:31] <Seveas> foug, no
[11:32] <nomin> RichW: and I can do that just by adding dapper repos, correct?
[11:32] <foug> darn, what are they Seveas ?
[11:32] <astro76> foug, nope, they're proprietary
[11:32] <Seveas> foug, microsd just looks like simcards
[11:32] <ikonia> !info sh
[11:32] <RichW> nomin: Do you have a GUI to work with?
[11:32] <ubotu> Package sh does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[11:32] <stefg> !upgrade
[11:32] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[11:32] <annaimkonki> SCANNING documents... which scanning application is compatible with most printer???
[11:32] <foug> Seveas, astro76, ok thanks ya'll
[11:32] <coir> I just installed Ubuntu with a Windows partition but GRUB isn't detecting the Windows installation. Can anyone help?
[11:32] <ikonia> Seveas: what does ubuntu use for a bourne compatiable shell ?
[11:32] <astro76> foug, they sell special readers though
[11:33] <astro76> ikonia, lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2007-06-29 23:11 /bin/sh -> dash
[11:33] <RichW> coir: I have no idea how you managed to do that but linux doesnt normally run from a ntfs partition
[11:33] <Seveas> ikonia, dash, which is posix-compliant-and-nothing-more, giving you a fast and lightweight /bin/sh
[11:33] <nomin> RichW: yes, but I'm trying to install linux on an older computer and the newer versions of ubuntu refuse to work on this computer.  I looked up some info and I think there is some kind of a bug.  I'm thinking that if I upgrade then this bug will come up again and refuse to run a newer version of ubuntu on this computer.
[11:33] <astro76> !dash
[11:33] <ubotu> /bin/sh links to the DASH shell in Ubuntu Edgy (6.10). Since DASH is not 100% compatible with the BASH shell, some scripts might break. You can make scripts execute using BASH by changing the first line of the script to  #! /bin/bash 
[11:33] <ikonia> astro76 thats the generic shell
[11:33] <Seveas> ikonia, but scripts that use bashisms won't work in it
[11:33] <coir> RichW: No, Linux isn't running on NTFS, I have an NTFS partition and an ext3 partition
[11:33] <ikonia> Seveas so it is dash only
[11:33] <coir> But GRUB won't detect the Windows installation on the NTFS
[11:33] <ikonia> yngone: did you read that ?
[11:33] <annaimkonki> SCANNING documents... which scanning application is compatible with most printer???
[11:34] <ikonia> !caps >annaimkonki
[11:34] <ikonia> !patience >annaimkonki
[11:34] <Seveas> !repeat > annaimkonki
[11:34] <ikonia> ha ha ha
[11:34] <Seveas> flooded by ubotu :)
[11:34] <Seveas> annaimkonki, and your question doesn't make sense at all
[11:34] <yngone> so how do i make it work
[11:34] <Seveas> printers have nothing to do with scanning
[11:34] <yngone> ?
[11:34] <RichW> nomin: try update-manager -c
[11:34] <kahrytan> ikonia, that wasnt shouting.
[11:34] <ikonia> yngone you need to install bash and change the shebang to point to bash
[11:35] <astro76> yngone, is the script using #!/bin/sh now? if so change it to bash
[11:35] <ikonia> kahrytan he was using caps for no reason
[11:35] <Seveas> ikonia, bash is installed by default
[11:35] <r00723r0> hi, i'm running compiz-fusion, and emerald refuses to show
[11:35] <r00723r0> can anyone help
[11:35] <astro76> ikonia, bash is the default shell in ubuntu
[11:35] <Seveas> it's still the default login shell
[11:35] <Jbir1> I still can't get my wireless running
[11:35] <Jbir1> is the fiesty implementation broken?
[11:35] <IgorSobreira> hey guys..i was trying to change my keyboard shortcuts, but i've unactivated the arrows(left and right)...anybody knows how can i activate them back??!?!?!
[11:35] <coir> RichW: So how can I reinstall GRUB so it detects Windows?
[11:35] <yngone> i just edit the file to /bin/bash?
[11:35] <r00723r0> anyone know?
[11:35] <coir> The Windows partition is on HDA1
[11:35] <r00723r0> is anyone on compiz?
[11:35] <ikonia> yngone looks like it
[11:35] <siloko> r00723r0: i think there is a compiz-fusion channel which may be more useful
[11:35] <Chri2> I have a question..... I have compiz fusion installed porplery, but when I try to rotate the cube...it isn't a cube...it is just a flat rectangle...
[11:35] <ikonia> astro76: Seveas thanks for the correct
[11:35] <astro76> yngone, yes sir
[11:35] <RichW> nomin: I highly suggest using a "Alternate" boot cd of a newer release...
[11:35] <r00723r0> thanks
[11:35] <Chri2> I think this is a common problem...how do i fix it?
[11:35] <ikonia> correction even
[11:36] <Seveas> coir, add this to /boot/grub/menu.lst:
[11:36] <stefg> coir: you don't need to reinstall, you just have to adjust /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:36] <Seveas> root (hd0,0)
[11:36] <siloko> Chri2: thats just a setting in the settings mnager
[11:36] <Seveas> chainloader +1
[11:36] <concept_yuk> Where can i find pidgin2.2.1  for feisty?
[11:36] <sayers> Chri2, You need to go into the compiz fusion settings
[11:36] <Chri2> how do I change it then?
[11:36] <Chri2> ok
[11:36] <yngone> worked
[11:36] <yngone> thanks
[11:36] <Seveas> concept_yuk, feisty has gaim, not pidgin
[11:36] <sayers> concept_yuk, getdeb.net
[11:36] <Chri2> where in the compiz fusion settings
[11:36] <astro76> !pidgin | concept_yuk
[11:36] <ubotu> concept_yuk: pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info. To install Pidgin please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallPidgin2.0
[11:36] <pulica> whats the best shaping tool?
[11:36] <ePax> how can i install nbtstat?
[11:36] <concept_yuk> sayers, there is 2.2.0
[11:36] <wackamole> r00723r0:   try 'emerald --replace' then try changing theme
[11:36] <RichW> coir: It normally detects it and either gives option to resize (which i personally dont recommend) and make a linux partiton or you picked another option to wipe the windows drive and install the linux one.
[11:37] <Seveas> pulica, an axe
[11:37] <Chri2> I have looked everywhere in the compiz fusion settings and i cannot get tihs cube to work properly
[11:37] <Chri2> it doesn't look like a 3d cube...but all of the right settings are on
[11:37] <concept_yuk> !pidgin
[11:37] <ubotu> pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info. To install Pidgin please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallPidgin2.0
[11:37] <IgorSobreira> hey guys..i was trying to change my keyboard shortcuts, but i've unactivated the arrows(left and right)...anybody knows how can i activate them back??!?!?!
[11:37] <pulica> i make myself clear "the best bandwith shaping tool"
[11:37] <stefg> !best
[11:37] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[11:37] <Flats> ne1 here install evolution for feisty?
[11:37] <stefg> !info wondershaper
[11:37] <Chri2> Can someone help me?!?!
[11:37] <moparfan90> can someone please help me get my "ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia" sound card to work
[11:38] <ubotu> wondershaper: Easy to use traffic shaping script. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1a-4ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 13 kB, installed size 80 kB
[11:38] <bayx> good evening
[11:38] <stefg> !please | Chri2
[11:38] <ubotu> Chri2: Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience
[11:38] <Flats> I keep getting an error which I think is normal but I don't know what it means
[11:38] <siloko> Chri2: just enable the desktop cube
[11:38] <theAdib> hey all, I red abaout new packages : libclutter do they have any web page ?
[11:38] <astro76> Chri2, try #ubuntu+1 or #ubuntu-effects
[11:38] <Chri2> siloko... i DID.
[11:38] <Chri2> something is not right
[11:39] <jduggan> hey guys, ive changed my default session to blackbox because its hella less resource intensive, i usually start up apps with X in my .xinitrc, ive got gdm handling my login sessions, its not reading xinitrc, hwo can i make an app start with blackbox from gdm?
[11:39] <siloko> Chri2: did yu also enable the rotate cube option?
[11:39] <askand> Is asp better than myzql or is it not possible to compare these?
[11:39] <moparfan90> does anyone here have sound on a inspiron 1521
[11:39] <Chri2> Yes.
[11:39] <Chri2> Again, like I said, it rotates, but it is NOT a 3D cube..
[11:39] <Seveas> askand, asp is an application framework, mysql is a database. Comparing apples to oranges would make more sense :)
[11:39] <Flats> !evolution
[11:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about evolution - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:39] <yngone> anyone encrypted there /home or /swap with truecrypt?
[11:40] <ikonia> yngone encryutping swap seems overkill
[11:40] <RichW> Chri2: You need to add more desktops.. i assume you have two.
[11:40] <stefg> jduggan: afaik blackbox has its own autostart mechanism, and you should rather use openbox, which is a fork and still actively developed
[11:40] <yngone> ikonia  why
[11:40] <ikonia> yngone why encypt it ?
[11:40] <RichW> Chri2: It makes a flat kind of thing with two desktops, triangle with three, cube with 4, etc
[11:41] <yngone> arnt there files there couple to valuble
[11:41] <Chri2> lol
[11:41] <ikonia> yngone such as ?
[11:41] <Chri2> no...
[11:41] <Chri2> I have 4  desktops
[11:41] <Seveas> ikonia, *very* useful when hibernating :)
[11:41] <Chri2> and it still only shows 2 when i rotate
[11:41] <moparfan90> anyone want to help me fix my sound card?
[11:41] <Ashfire908> what is the4 command to paause a process?
[11:41] <ikonia> Seveas be quiet ;)
[11:41] <nomin> RichW: the alternate boot cd sounds like a good option to try.  I'll do that and see what happens.
[11:41] <Seveas> ikonia, laptops get stolen all the time... your private key may just be in memory when hibernating...
[11:41] <StaticVector> I actually have the same problem as Chris2
[11:41] <stefg> moparfan90: lspci | grep audio ?
[11:41] <ikonia> Seveas yes, I know, I had mine stolen, and my home dir is enccypted
[11:42] <StaticVector> Chri2*
[11:42] <astro76> Ashfire908, ctrl+z if it's the foreground, or bg processid if it's in the background, jobs to list them
[11:42] <Seveas> Ashfire908, kill -STOP pid_of_process
[11:42] <ikonia> but I don't hibernate so don't bother with swap
[11:42] <fhobia> anybody know how to tell pbuilder "build this package assuming this other package is installed" ?
[11:42] <Seveas> Ashfire908, or: pkill -STOP name_of_process
[11:42] <RichW> nomin: Yeah I think ive done a alternate one on some VERY low end hardware.. im talking 100-400mhz
, that returned nothing
[11:42] <Nomikos> Hello all, I'm without a mouse, is there any way to move the mouse cursor using key combinations?
[11:42] <crimsun> jduggan: use ~/.xsession
[11:42] <pulica> how many day until 7.10?
[11:42] <Seveas> fhobia, add the package as build dependency or install it manually in your pbuilder chroot
[11:42] <moparfan90> my sound card is " ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia"
[11:42] <RichW> pulica: 10 or 11
[11:42] <Lamego> pulica, on the 18th
[11:43] <pulica> i just cant wait ....
[11:43] <Chri2> I guess you can't help me here
[11:43] <PKdoR> what is the best media player for linux? I would like to have just one or 2 installed and I dont really like totem and VLC is one of my choises so I need just one more
[11:43] <RichW> pulica: Get the beta.
[11:43] <pulica> hmm  not stable
[11:43] <RichW> pulica: agreed.
[11:43] <stefg> moparfan90: when you have not typoed this means you have no soundcard (or an ISA-bus system, or IRQ trouble)
[11:44] <pulica> this version can be shipped?
[11:44] <fhobia> Seveas: how do i do the former? pbuilder says it can't find it...but i installed it on my system already
[11:44] <concept_yuk> I do not have msn accaunt and i use pidgin 2.2.0, is that safe?
, i dont understand. it works fine in windows...  but i hate windows
[11:44] <RichW> pulica: Yes all future versions will be on shipit
[11:44] <stefg> moparfan90: aplay -l ?
[11:44] <moparfan90> aplay: device_list:218: no soundcards found...
[11:44] <Seveas> fhobia, read a packaging manual :)
[11:44] <PKdoR> can some one recomend a good media player for linux other then VLC?
[11:44] <save> ciao
[11:44] <jasper> hi - can i get some help with beryl please
[11:45] <wG> I have downloaded the ubuntu desktop 7.04 i386.iso from ubuntu's website and tried to install it in a new Virtual PC 2007 virtual machine but it fail. The first screen appear and I select the first option "Start or Install Ubuntu"
[11:45] <Seveas> !beryl | jasper
[11:45] <ubotu> jasper: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:45] <fhobia> Seveas: ok, thanks for your help...i think i found some docs...8)
[11:45] <INeedSomeGames> hi guys, i like games like njam,lost vikings, or the classic bomberman. anyone got any suggestion on a good similar game in linux?
[11:45] <Seveas> fhobia, there should be one on help.ubuntu.com
[11:45] <wG> after that appear:
[11:45] <stefg> moparfan90: your soundcard isn't even seen on the bus.... run dmesg and paste that to !pastebin
[11:45] <yngone> sudo dpkg -i truecrypt.deb  ; isnt wroking
[11:45] <yngone> Errors were encountered while processing: truecrypt.deb
[11:45] <stefg> !paste | moparfan90
[11:45] <ubotu> moparfan90: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:46] <wG> isapnp: checksum for device 1 is not valid (0x89)
[11:46] <wG> isapnp: checksum for device 2 is not valid (0xbe)
[11:46] <wG> Loading; please wait...
[11:46] <wG> and nothing happen
[11:46] <wG> :-(
[11:46] <Ashfire908> Seveas, how do i resume the process
[11:47] <Seveas> Ashfire908, kill -CONT pid / pkill -CONT name
, its too long.... i cant scroll up to the top on terminal
[11:47] <BlackCow> so im setting up my ubuntu server and for some reason I have to install apache, mysql, and php all seperatly, it said it would install the LAMP server automaitaclly for me, what do you think went wrong?
[11:47] <RichW> Seveas: Perhaps !beryl should say its not developed anymore.
[11:47] <yngone> sudo dpkg -i truecrypt.deb  ; isnt wroking
[11:47] <stefg> moparfan90: then redirect ' dmesg > output.log '
[11:47] <yngone> Errors were encountered while processing: truecrypt.deb
[11:48] <Seveas> RichW, fair point -- but it's still the better alternative in feisty
[11:48] <moparfan90> will the lspci work?
[11:48] <Seveas> which is what we support here :)
[11:48] <gutsy> hello, i've installed gusty and i want to desactivate it with shell (in recovery mode). how can i do it?
[11:48] <siloko> Chri2: two things - in general settings your desktop size (horizontal virtual size) needs to be greater than one - and the behaviour you suggest is the binding for ctrl-alt-down - try ctrl-alt-left (or right)
[11:48] <stefg> !gutsy
[11:48] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[11:49] <pulica> !wondershaper
[11:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wondershaper - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:49] <gutsy> thak you ubotu
[11:49] <imyousuf> hi. I am fairly new to linux and ubuntu. I am using Fiesty Fawn on my Acer 5585 laptop. I could get everything working fine except for the sound card. It seems that the OS detects my Sound card but will not play any sort of sound. I would like to know how I could proceed to solve this issue.
, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39916/
[11:49] <stefg> k, wait a sec
[11:50] <stefg> !gutsy | moparfan90:
[11:50] <ubotu> moparfan90:: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[11:50] <fabrymondo> hello everybody
[11:50] <erUSUL> !sound | imyousuf
[11:50] <ubotu> imyousuf: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:50] <erUSUL> !intelhda | imyousuf
[11:50] <nzero> ikonia do you ever sleep
[11:50] <ubotu> imyousuf: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[11:50] <ikonia> nzero soon
[11:50] <Seveas> nzero, sleep is for wussies
, so does that mean it cant be fixed?
[11:50] <Seveas> ikonia, is a hardass
[11:50] <imyousuf> ok
[11:51] <nzero> everyone i know is a insomniac
[11:51] <imyousuf> having a look
[11:51] <stefg> moparfan90: use feisty, the kernel in gutsy is still a building site at the moment. Don't bother to fix it now, will probably be obsolete in a couple of dys
[11:51] <nzero> i think it means something
[11:51] <moparfan90> ooo
[11:51] <moparfan90> ok
[11:51] <moparfan90> thanks for your help
[11:51] <moparfan90> do i have to reinstall... or is there a downgrade method?
[11:52] <nzero> what do you do for a living ikonoa
[11:52] <nzero> ikonia
[11:52] <stefg> moparfan90: no downgrade. if you need it working NOW you have to reinstall feisty
[11:52] <imyousuf> erUSL: Intel HDA
[11:52] <Seveas> !offtopic | nzero
[11:52] <ubotu> nzero: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:52] <ikonia> nzero: bit off topic
[11:52] <moparfan90> ok
[11:52] <moparfan90> im off to reinstall
[11:53] <nzero> is there like a non-support ubuntu chat
[11:53] <stefg> !offtopic
[11:53] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:53] <emca> hi
[11:53] <coir> ok, Seveas, I added that to menu.lst but when I select Windows in the GRUB menu it doesn't do anything, it just blinks quickly and shows the GRUB menu again
[11:53] <DrSmall> Hello
[11:53] <M_A_K> I have an Apple Powerbook G3 (333) with 64MB RAM.  Can I install xubuntu?
[11:53] <fabrymondo> coir: reinstall the grub
[11:54] <coir> fabrymondo: How?
[11:54] <coir> aptitue reinstall grub?
[11:54] <stefg> !grub
[11:54] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:54] <IndyGunFreak> M_A_K: Ubuntu no longer supports the Mac hardware, look at Debian Etch
[11:54] <fabrymondo> grub-install
[11:54] <skyggen> Hi everybody. New to the whole Xchat scene.. How come I can't get the autojoin to work? The channelname I type, wheter it's channelname og #channelname .. It comes up with channel doesn't exist ?
[11:54] <M_A_K> Bummer.  THanks though.
[11:54] <IndyGunFreak> M_A_K: np.., If you like Ubuntu, you'll like Debian.. its what ubuntu is based on
[11:54] <fabrymondo> Coir: I'm sorry, i'm not english, try to type grub-install
[11:55] <trogdor> M_A_K: I setup a very slim xubuntu like system with debian on one comp, I can show you a guide
[11:55] <trogdor> M_A_K: ah crap think it got deleted.. but its not too hard to setup xfce
[11:56] <fabrymondo> Is there anyone who is using Icecast/Shoutcast on ubuntu?
[11:56] <M_A_K> trogdor : thanks.  I will get etch and then go from there.
[11:57] <wG> isapnp: checksum for device 1 is not valid (0x89) / isapnp: checksum for device 2 is not valid (0xbe) / Loading, please wait... ---> But nothing happen
[11:57] <wG> (I'm trying to install Ubuntu in a virtual machine, Virtual pc2007)
[11:57] <coir> I am not trying to recover Ubuntu - I am trying to make GRUB allow me to boot Windows.
[11:57] <fabrymondo> coir: windows vista?
[11:57] <wG> someone have an idea?
[11:58] <coir> fabrymondo: XP
[11:58] <zomgoblinz> Seveas, hey...
[11:58] <zomgoblinz> Seveas, tcp6       0      0 :::6667                 :::*                    LISTEN
[11:58] <zomgoblinz> does that mean its using ipv6?
[11:58] <Jbirk> What is going on?
[11:58] <Seveas> zomgoblinz, not neccessarily
[11:58] <fabrymondo> Coir: I suppose you only need to reinstall grub...
[11:58] <Jbirk> I hate wireless on fiesty
[11:58] <Jbirk> it sucks
[11:59] <coir> fabrymondo: I don't know how to do that.
[11:59] <stefg> coir: can you be bothered to actually read the howto before you complain ?
[11:59] <zomgoblinz> Seveas, ok well i cant hit that port either
[11:59] <Jbirk> That wasn't very constructive, so I will elaborate
[11:59] <coir> stefg: I am not complaining.
[11:59] <trogdor> Jbirk: what card?
[11:59] <M_A_K> This what Im looking for ? debian-40r1-powerpc-xfce-CD-1.iso
[11:59] <Jbirk> Netgear WG311v3
[11:59] <zomgoblinz> Seveas, i thought maybe that was what was wrong with trying to ssh in
[11:59] <Moduliz0r> Hullo people
[11:59] <jmaxx> hi for all
[11:59] <zzz> M_A_K: Ubuntu still has a Mac port!
[11:59] <Jbirk> Worked perfect with Ndiswrapper 1.8
[11:59] <Jbirk> in Edgy
[11:59] <trogdor> Jbirk: have you followed the guides at ndiswrapper site?
[11:59] <coir> What is it I am supposed to be reading? A page that explains how to recover Ubuntu from Windows is not what I need.
[11:59] <Jbirk> Yes
[11:59] <IndyGunFreak> M_A_K: yes
[12:00] <zzz> M_A_K: Just go to the following address: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/7.04/release/
[12:00] <Jbirk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39915/
[12:00] <blood> Hi all.  I am a complete newbie and I was wondering - I have been using the Add/Remove program function and have found some nifty things there by selecting the option "Show All Available Programs"
[12:00] <Jbirk> It fails miserably at renewing an ip
[12:00] <Jbirk> I can even get the card's mac address to show
[12:00] <fabrymondo> blood: Learn how to use synaptic
[12:00] <blood> I looked at the sticky on the newb section of Ubuntu forums and it had something explaining how to get support for quicktime and other media codecs etc.
[12:00] <Jbirk> and I can see my wireless network
[12:00] <Jbirk> and give it a WEP
[12:00] <blood> When I try to use that thing it tells me it is illegal
[12:00] <Jbirk> I just cannot actually connect
[12:00] <M_A_K> zzz: I have a G3 (333) with only 64 MB Ram/.
[12:00] <trogdor> Jbirk: it did you try static address? can you ping things?
[12:00] <blood> Synaptic?
[12:00] <stefg> !codecs
[12:00] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:00] <fabrymondo> blood: need to listen to mp3s?
[12:01] <IndyGunFreak> Jbirk: where did you get those images?.. iv'e never saw those.
[12:01] <blood> Mp3s - dvds - i even want to upload video from my cam corder to my computer
[12:01] <Moduliz0r> Hey, you know as a standard install, the nvidia drivers on 7.04 weren't good for the 8600? Will they be ok for the 8600 in 7.10?
[12:01] <M_A_K> IndyGunFreak : thanks
[12:01] <zzz> M_A_K: You can try the alternative install CD which should work with 64MB of RAM.
[12:01] <IndyGunFreak> M_A_K: no prob...
[12:01] <LacusOdii> Im running 7.04 on an imac 333 with 128, and I do not feel like it is fast enough. I had to use the alt CD.
[12:01] <fabrymondo> blood: Which camera?
[12:01] <Ahadiel> Hello, Evolution gives me a seg fault when starting it, any ideas? http://pastebin.com/m232921a9
[12:02] <M_A_K> Okay, I will try them both then.  Thanks for the info.
[12:02] <blood> It's a sony - it has a USB port on it - however I am not able to access the exact model information at the moment - when I do should I just google it?
[12:02] <Jbirk> Basically, it seems good by DHCP won't give me an IP
[12:02] <cryptomatt> Hey guys.. I am having some trouble upgrading from feisty to gutsy gibbon.. it keeps saying could not download release notes.. check your internet connection... i know for sure the internet connection is working.. so what could be wrong
[12:02] <LacusOdii> ubuntu+ppc=new life
[12:02] <fabrymondo> blood: pcmcia?
[12:03] <Jbirk> what iamges?
[12:03] <fabrymondo> blood: only usb?
[12:03] <coir> can someoen please look at my menu.lst here http://pastebin.org/4370 and tell me if something is off?
[12:03] <blood> fabrymondo:  just usb
[12:03] <Moduliz0r> how does Ubuntu perform with 1394 video cameras?
[12:03] <IndyGunFreak> Jbirk: the Feisty images for Mac, Playstation, etc?.. why aren't they on the offical page?.. are theu user supported?
[12:03] <Moduliz0r> how well*
[12:03] <fabrymondo> blood: It's quite hard to let ubuntu see your usb video camera.. i think
[12:04] <cafuego> Moduliz0r: my iSight worked fine on all apps that can read DV in
[12:04] <Jbirk> Yes, I can ping
[12:04] <blood> Is there a better IRC chat client?  I'm using XChat and it is all black and white and hard to see
[12:04] <Jbirk> by ip address
[12:04] <Moduliz0r> ok
[12:04] <zzz> IndyGunFreak: Yes those are user supported.
[12:04] <justme> what ubuntu i must get for core 2 duo?
[12:04] <blood> fabrymondo:  is it impossible?
[12:04] <Jbirk> why doesn't dhcp work?
[12:04] <stefg> LacusOdii: you should rather use xubuntu. 128 MB is not enough for gnome
[12:04] <justme> what ubuntu arch i must get for core 2 duo?
[12:04] <fabrymondo> blood: i use LOSTIRC
[12:04] <kahrytan> mencoder is fixed in gutsy right?
[12:04] <IndyGunFreak> zzz: hmm
[12:04] <IndyGunFreak> had never saw them....
[12:04] <cafuego> justme:  i386
[12:04] <ikonia> kahrytan why it broke
[12:04] <blood> LOSTIRC - gotcha, thanks I'll go download that one real fast
[12:04] <LacusOdii> I will try that, I have never played with anything but the regular ubuntu
[12:04] <IndyGunFreak> i knew canonical had dropped the Mac after edgy
[12:04] <kahrytan> ikonia, it's broke in feisty.
[12:04] <Moduliz0r> but has anyone tried a sony DV firewire connected camera, what do you use to copy off video