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fluffmanso until I upgraded to Xubuntu Gutsy, anyone on this computer was able to login by clicking their name/face, like in XP.  I know I had to edit something in /etc/pam.d, but I can't find the website from before.01:39
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eegoreis there a font setting somewhere for xfce?01:43
eegoreeverything is just too big01:44
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eegorewhere is the global font setting02:07
eegoreterminal and everything else is just too big, even at 1024x76802:08
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Pumpernickeleegore: Applications > Settings > User interface settings02:36
MatBoyPumpernickel, is there a known fix for the Unexpected Disconnection for SDcards ?02:43
eegore] I am thoroughly impressed with xubuntu and the hard drive footpriny02:44
eegoreI only have a 4 gig drive at the moment because my 30 died02:44
eegoreis there a seting for power conservation in laptops?02:45
eegore is there a setting for laptop power management02:50
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Pumpernickeleegore: Nothing like gnome-power-manager, which I assume is what you're thinking of.  This might interest you: http://dosnlinux.wordpress.com/2007/01/19/xubuntu-acpi-the-lid/03:00
PumpernickelMatBoy: First I've heard of that problem - if you're reasonably sure it's a software, and not a hardware, problem, you should file a bug report.03:01
MatBoyPumpernickel, there is already a bug reported and re-reported... so I hope it will be fixed... I have it on one system, HW is OK03:10
eegorePumpernickel: then I assume from the lightness of the desktop, it does not strain the batteries too much03:13
eegoreMy cpu does support frequencie scaling03:14
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zeroflagjesus, I think I have to speed up my switch to xubuntu...07:52
zeroflagvista is too broken. =[07:52
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presto101can a person do anything in xubuntu that they can in ubuntu?09:11
presto101in other words i play a few games and have a nvidia card09:11
PumpernickelIt's the same system, with a different default desktop environment.09:16
presto101ah sorry stepped away for a sec pumpernickel09:18
presto101i like ubuntu and i dont need desktop flash and id heard some good things about xfce09:19
presto101so if xubuntu does the same things as ubuntu then im set09:19
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coldstealis there xubuntu gutsy?10:33
TheSheep!schedule | coldsteal10:39
ubotucoldsteal: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases10:39
coldstealyeah i have gutsy with gnome but i didnt see anything for the xfce version10:42
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prestoni had a couple questions about xubuntu10:52
coldstealpreston: lol no one can answer then till they know what the are10:55
prestonah just wanted to make sure someone was available10:55
nanonymeTheSheep, isn't hardy the one that will have 5 year support?10:56
prestonon the live cd i cant acess another ext3 partition will i be able to after i install10:56
prestonsame thing for a ntfs external hdd10:56
TheSheeppreston: "can't access"?10:57
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TheSheeppreston: it should be perfectly possible10:58
TheSheep!hardy | nanonyme10:58
ubotunanonyme: Hardy Heron is the code name for Ubuntu 8.04-LTS, due April 2008. For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron10:58
prestonto be specific i cant mount them actually10:58
nanonymeapparently so10:58
prestonim finding that xubuntu looks really pretty10:59
TheSheeppreston: any message you're getting?10:59
prestonim assuming i cant mount because of it being a live cd10:59
TheSheeppreston: WRONG10:59
TheSheeppreston: any message you're getting?11:00
prestonit says unable to mount sea disk11:00
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TheSheephyper__ch: des gustibus etc.11:01
TheSheeppreston: how do you try to mount it?11:01
prestonthesheep by right clicking and then clicking mount11:01
TheSheeppreston: ok, try from terminal, you should get a more meaningful message11:03
TheSheeppreston: mkdir yourdisk; mount /dev/sda1 yourdisk11:04
prestonok here is what i got11:05
prestonlogfile indicates unclean shutdown failed to mount sdb1 operation not supported mount is denied because ntfs is marked to be in use11:06
prestoni can now it seems acsess my other linux partitions11:07
TheSheeppreston: boot your windows and shutdown properly11:07
prestoni dont have windows installed11:07
prestonthis is a external hdd11:07
TheSheepwell, oops11:08
TheSheepnext time don't just ript the plug11:09
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TheSheeppreston: the filesystem is left in a state that cannot by mounted on linux11:09
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prestonhmmm ok11:11
prestononly one other question concerning system monitor11:11
prestoni cant seem to fire it up i click it but get nothing11:12
TheSheeppreston: isn't system monitor a panel plugin?11:13
prestonit is but its also under applications11:15
prestoni was able to acsess it on the panel11:16
prestonit says im using 269 megs of memory11:16
prestondoes that sound high for a live cd11:16
TheSheeppreston: no, that's about normal11:17
prestonthesheep: whats normal for installed11:24
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JoakimHi. How can up update my Xubuntu 7.04 to 7.10? Which command? Update-manager doesn't the job.01:13
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ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes01:26
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hyper_chTheSheep: online?02:34
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homebrewciderhey all, can someone help me please. since "dist-upgrade" the other day, the computer's been running like a dog, can I roll back?03:25
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TheSheephomebrewcider: generally: no03:32
TheSheephomebrewcider: it would be much more worthwhile to find out why it's so slow03:32
homebrewcideryes it would03:33
TheSheephomebrewcider: feisty?03:33
homebrewciderany way I can find out memo ry usage?03:33
TheSheephomebrewcider: type 'top' in a terminal03:33
homebrewciderhmm, opera has 3 entries03:34
TheSheeptry killing them03:36
homebrewciderchewing up an enormous amount of cpu03:36
homebrewciderkilling them ?03:36
TheSheeppress 'k' and type the pid of the process to kill03:36
TheSheeppid is the number in the first column03:36
homebrewcideri'm on it03:37
homebrewciderok, they're killed, what would cause a program to have 3 entries?03:38
TheSheepstarting it three times, for exmaple03:39
homebrewciderit was crashing, upon restart it would say already running03:40
TheSheepit could also have forkedafter you started03:40
TheSheephomebrewcider: apparently it didn't crash, it stayed running in memory03:40
hyper_chTheSheep: can you add new things to Ubotu?03:40
TheSheephyper_ch: no03:41
TheSheep!bugs | hyper_ch03:41
ubotuhyper_ch: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots03:41
homebrewciderokay Sheep, many thanks03:41
homebrewciderseems "Program manager" Kill function did not fully kill it lol03:41
hyper_chTheSheep: it's not a bug and the ubotu homepage is down03:43
TheSheephyper_ch: wishes qualify too03:43
hyper_chTheSheep: place a wish as a bug?03:44
TheSheephyper_ch: place a wish as a feature request/enchacement03:45
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hyper_chTheSheep: well, I see nothing there about that... only about bug filing03:45
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vinzeHey Ben_Cs04:06
Ben_Csi've installed a network switch on my network. my xubuntu pc has network (see's other pc's) but no internet. how do i fix this?04:07
Ben_Csoh never mind. it just took it a minute to work04:08
Ben_Csand finally, thanks to the switch my network transfers are fast as should be :)04:08
Ben_Cshmmm. i can use Pidgin, and skype, but can't browse http......04:10
Ben_Cswhen i dualboot to winxp i can browse http04:11
Ben_Cshelp pleasde04:11
TheSheepBen_Cs: do you have your dns set correctly?04:12
Ben_Csdon't know04:13
Ben_Csit's like some port's work and some don't04:13
Ben_Csbut winxp has everything working04:14
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TheSheepBen_Cs: do you have your dns set correctly?04:16
Ben_CsTheSheep: how do i check?04:18
TheSheepBen_Cs: system -> network -> dns04:20
Ben_Csseems right04:21
Ben_Csso what could be wrong?04:24
TheSheepBen_Cs: proxy settings in firefox?04:24
Ben_CsTheSheep: i use crossed cable, but my switch can handle it - handles it fine on WinXP, so that's not the cause i guess04:25
TheSheepBen_Cs: since your other programs work, it's not the physical layer04:25
Ben_CsTheSheep: it's not only firefox: chatx, firefox, don't work.  pidgin,skype do work04:26
Ben_Csupdate manager can't connect aswell04:27
TheSheepBen_Cs: open terminal04:28
TheSheepBen_Cs: and type 'host google.com'04:28
Ben_Csi get info04:30
Ben_Csabout google04:30
Ben_Csbtw, skype says it's connected but i am not able to make calls04:32
TheSheepBen_Cs: mtr google.com04:33
Ben_CsTheSheep: i have some precentage of packe loss04:34
TheSheepbut it gets there?04:37
Ben_Csmore accurately: the only internet protocol the works is ICQ04:37
Ben_CsTheSheep: looks like it gets there, yes04:37
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Ben_Csi want to cry04:48
PumpernickelSounds like an http proxy problem.04:58
PumpernickelEither you're trying to use one and shouldn't, or you aren't using one and should.04:58
Ben_CsPumpernickel: the thing is that other ports than http don't work as well. only icq works04:59
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ubotuenvy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!06:41
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ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:45
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:49
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Ancient1hi .trying to install. when it comes to loading X , i get faintblue color and CD thrashes on and on = doesn't load07:29
Ancient1any clue ?07:30
Ancient1oops. trying to use the live-cd07:31
pleia2how much ram do you have?07:31
Ancient1128 sdram07:31
pleia2that's not enough to run the livecd07:32
pleia2you'll need to use the alternate cd07:32
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Ancient1it says (F1) thats the minimum. but if u insist.. :)07:32
Ancient1is the alternate as easy as this cd ?07:33
pleia2it's a text based installer, but yes, it's very easy07:33
Ancient1noobs friendly07:33
Ancient1ok. do u think it will run in 128 after i install ?07:34
pleia2see the system requirements on http://xubuntu.com/get07:34
Ancient1had a hard time.. thought the burning went bad, done again..07:34
Ancient1ah . ok . great (hmm must've read that :))07:35
Ancient1say. what swap size should I set ?07:36
pleia2probably 25607:36
Ancient1MB ?   nice07:37
Ancient1thanks !07:37
pleia2if you're new to this you probably just want the installer to set up partitions for you (including swap), it does a good job07:37
Ancient1already installed few distros. but I get stuck easy , if u know what i mean ;)07:38
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anahatacan anyone help me figure out how to use an md5 checker to make sure my xubuntu download is uncorrupted?07:49
hyper_chanahata: md5check file07:50
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hyper_chBen_Cs: hiho07:51
Ben_Csstill have the problem that xubuntu can't get a proper internet connection from router, while WinXP can.07:51
anahatai'm not in ubuntu right now.... i'm using FastSum and i'm sorry but i don't know how to do it07:51
anahatai had used md5 checker, thought i did it right, and it came out that the md5 did not match the one listed on the xubuntu site07:51
hyper_chanahata: well, this is an ubuntu channel... so we use ubuntu tools ;)07:52
Ben_Csmeaning: xubuntu gets something like 1% of connection - only icq works, and firefox loads only google.com cause it's lite07:52
anahatai had torrented the file, i must be doing something wrong b/c supposedly every distro i download is corrupted then07:52
hyper_chBen_Cs: IPv6 deactivated?07:52
anahatai just want a clean copy of ubuntu so i can start using it :|07:52
hyper_ch!md5 | anahata07:53
ubotuanahata: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows07:53
Ben_Cshyper_ch: don't know: suggestions of action?07:55
hyper_ch!ipv6 | Ben_Cs07:55
ubotuBen_Cs: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv407:55
Ben_Cshyper_ch: you rhink i should DISABLE it?07:56
hyper_chBen_Cs: yes07:56
Ben_Cshyper_ch: i would think that if WinXP uses it and it works, then xubuntu should use it as well for internet to work07:57
hyper_chBen_Cs: do you think windowsxp uses ipv6 by default as primary internet protocol?07:57
Ben_Csthought so07:58
Ben_Cswell hyper_ch, will try this. be back later to tell results08:00
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Ben_Cshyper_ch: you think ipv6 not working with the router itself?08:02
hyper_chBen_Cs: does it matter? just try it08:03
anahatai'm looking at the help files you just pointed me to, and i don't understand it08:03
anahatamostly, one page refers to an md5 file but it's in html format... and the programs looks for a .md5 file i think08:04
Ben_Cshyper_ch: ipv6 concerns only internet or lan aswell? cause my internal network works fine on xubuntu08:07
hyper_chBen_Cs: did you read what's written on IPv6?08:08
Ben_Cshyper_ch: ok it's internet protocol. i did what the doc said, now i have no internet connection at all08:10
hyper_chBen_Cs: did you restart?08:11
hyper_chthat should have no effect on the connection at all08:12
hyper_chjust on the dns queries08:12
Ben_Csone sec08:13
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Ben_Cs_hyper_ch: ok, so what's now? i have the same problem still. minimum conectivity that is08:17
hyper_chBen_Cs_: no clue then08:17
Ben_Cs_ok thnx08:18
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Ben_Cshyper_ch: still here?08:31
hyper_chBen_Cs: yes08:32
Ben_Cshyper_ch: remember i had random net drops when had my xubuntu connected directly to winxp pc?08:33
hyper_chBen_Cs: well, I remember you have some problems08:33
Ben_Cshyper_ch: and u said i should use a switch?08:33
ICXCNIKAI am thinking of using Xubuntu instead of Kubuntu for my Inspiron 5100. Does Xubuntu provide the user with a web browser?08:33
hyper_chBen_Cs: could be08:33
hyper_chICXCNIKA: yes08:33
ICXCNIKAhyper_ch: What is its default web browser if I may ask?08:34
hyper_chICXCNIKA: FF08:35
Ben_Csso the only way i got the internet to work is if i set the dsl router as regular dsl modem, which is connected to winxp pc. the winxp pc is in turn connected to a switch and shares the internet connection to the switch. the xubuntu pc is connected to the switch. get the picture? so that should help against random net drops on xubuntu?08:35
ICXCNIKAhyper_ch: Good.08:35
hyper_chBen_Cs: no clue how your setup works... here my dsl modem sets up the connection itself... and it has 4 ports already for lan08:36
hyper_chBen_Cs: so I don't have to go through a win box08:36
hyper_chBen_Cs: but as said, I have no clue how yours works08:36
Ben_Cshyper_ch: good for u. i have a dsl modem with 1 port08:36
hyper_chBen_Cs: does it build the connection on its own?08:37
Ben_Cshyper_ch: my question is: is it better that my xubuntu gets it's connection not directly from winxp machine but channeled through a switch that stands between winxp machine and xubuntu machine?08:38
hyper_chBen_Cs: a switch is need to connect more than 2 devices together which seems not to be the case for you08:39
hyper_cheither hook up a router or a switch to your modem... a switch only if the modem is also a router08:39
Ben_Cshyper_ch: to hook it as you suggest makes xubuntu have almost no internet connectivity08:40
hyper_chthen there is some misconfiguration08:40
Ben_Cshyper_ch: but you said u don't have an idea what could it be. neither do i08:41
hyper_chwell, turning ipv6 off should help08:41
hyper_chdo you actually have a gateway in your config?08:42
Ben_Cshyper_ch: when i look in configs of network in xubuntu the gateway is the routers ip08:42
hyper_chBen_Cs: use ifconfig08:43
Ben_Cshad it right there aswell08:46
hyper_chthen I don't know08:46
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nikolamAfter I installed latest update (Xubuntu 7.04 64 bit) Seamonkey wont start10:22
nikolamSegmentation fault (core dumped)10:22
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots10:24
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Ancient1heya , need to MD5SUM the alternate ISO, cd isn't ok . where do I find the ISO's MD5 ?10:42
nikolam)Hello what is the meaning of top showng 100%si ? Mouse and whole machine got stuck every 10 seconds regularly.10:44
hyper_chAncient1: on the mirror sites where you can download the isos10:45
nikolamtop is not showing any process that is causing high cpu usage. i can hardy typ anything now.10:46
nikolamI have dual core 2ghz amd btw.10:46
Ancient1hyper_ch, thx10:46
Ancient1nikolam I think there's a fix for that , look in ubuntu forums if no one here knows10:47
nikolamthanks Ancient110:48
Ancient1I  remembersomething10:48
Ancient1oh. ok . GL10:48
nikolamIf I dont go mad on coputer stuck and after 5th reinstall..10:49
Ancient1no. its something to do with C2D and linux10:49
Ancient1hmm dual core isn't Core2Duo ;)10:49
Ancient1ufff  so much hassle with getting xubuntu on cd :(10:53
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Ben_Csis there a difference for xubuntu if my adsl router configured as pppoe or pppoa?10:56
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Ancient1laters all , thanks for the help10:59
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nikolam_I sort of found solution for blocking machine every ten seconds11:13
nikolam_I deinstalled SCIM that appeared in the tray and everything depended on it11:14
nikolam_And now it is ok.11:14
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M_A_KI just aquired a Macintosh Laptop with only 64 MB RAM.  Can I install xubuntu?11:47
TheSheepM_A_K: it will be SLOW11:49
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Ancient1f00k me !  everytime I run winMD5sum I get different MD5 !!12:03
Ancient1its the 3rd iso i d/l12:04
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