[01:39] <fluffman> so until I upgraded to Xubuntu Gutsy, anyone on this computer was able to login by clicking their name/face, like in XP.  I know I had to edit something in /etc/pam.d, but I can't find the website from before.
[01:42] <fluffman> brb
[01:43] <eegore> is there a font setting somewhere for xfce?
[01:44] <eegore> everything is just too big
[02:07] <eegore> where is the global font setting
[02:08] <eegore> terminal and everything else is just too big, even at 1024x768
[02:36] <Pumpernickel> eegore: Applications > Settings > User interface settings
[02:43] <MatBoy> Pumpernickel, is there a known fix for the Unexpected Disconnection for SDcards ?
[02:44] <eegore> ] I am thoroughly impressed with xubuntu and the hard drive footpriny
[02:44] <eegore> I only have a 4 gig drive at the moment because my 30 died
[02:45] <eegore> is there a seting for power conservation in laptops?
[02:50] <eegore>  is there a setting for laptop power management
[03:00] <Pumpernickel> eegore: Nothing like gnome-power-manager, which I assume is what you're thinking of.  This might interest you: http://dosnlinux.wordpress.com/2007/01/19/xubuntu-acpi-the-lid/
[03:01] <Pumpernickel> MatBoy: First I've heard of that problem - if you're reasonably sure it's a software, and not a hardware, problem, you should file a bug report.
[03:10] <MatBoy> Pumpernickel, there is already a bug reported and re-reported... so I hope it will be fixed... I have it on one system, HW is OK
[03:13] <eegore> Pumpernickel: then I assume from the lightness of the desktop, it does not strain the batteries too much
[03:14] <eegore> My cpu does support frequencie scaling
[07:52] <zeroflag> jesus, I think I have to speed up my switch to xubuntu...
[07:52] <zeroflag> vista is too broken. =[
[09:11] <presto101> can a person do anything in xubuntu that they can in ubuntu?
[09:11] <presto101> in other words i play a few games and have a nvidia card
[09:12] <presto101> anyone?
[09:14] <presto101> hello?
[09:15] <Pumpernickel> Yes.
[09:16] <Pumpernickel> It's the same system, with a different default desktop environment.
[09:18] <presto101> ah sorry stepped away for a sec pumpernickel
[09:19] <presto101> i like ubuntu and i dont need desktop flash and id heard some good things about xfce
[09:19] <presto101> so if xubuntu does the same things as ubuntu then im set
[10:33] <coldsteal> hello
[10:33] <coldsteal> is there xubuntu gutsy?
[10:33] <coldsteal> yet
[10:39] <TheSheep> !schedule | coldsteal
[10:39] <ubotu> coldsteal: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[10:40] <TheSheep> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule
[10:42] <coldsteal> yeah i have gutsy with gnome but i didnt see anything for the xfce version
[10:52] <preston> i had a couple questions about xubuntu
[10:55] <coldsteal> preston: lol no one can answer then till they know what the are
[10:55] <preston> anyone??
[10:55] <preston> ah just wanted to make sure someone was available
[10:56] <nanonyme> TheSheep, isn't hardy the one that will have 5 year support?
[10:56] <preston> on the live cd i cant acess another ext3 partition will i be able to after i install
[10:56] <preston> same thing for a ntfs external hdd
[10:57] <TheSheep> preston: "can't access"?
[10:58] <TheSheep> preston: it should be perfectly possible
[10:58] <TheSheep> !hardy | nanonyme
[10:58] <ubotu> nanonyme: Hardy Heron is the code name for Ubuntu 8.04-LTS, due April 2008. For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron
[10:58] <preston> to be specific i cant mount them actually
[10:58] <nanonyme> apparently so
[10:59] <preston> im finding that xubuntu looks really pretty
[10:59] <TheSheep> preston: any message you're getting?
[10:59] <preston> im assuming i cant mount because of it being a live cd
[10:59] <TheSheep> preston: WRONG
[11:00] <TheSheep> preston: any message you're getting?
[11:00] <preston> it says unable to mount sea disk
[11:01] <TheSheep> hyper__ch: des gustibus etc.
[11:01] <TheSheep> preston: how do you try to mount it?
[11:01] <preston> thesheep by right clicking and then clicking mount
[11:03] <TheSheep> preston: ok, try from terminal, you should get a more meaningful message
[11:04] <TheSheep> preston: mkdir yourdisk; mount /dev/sda1 yourdisk
[11:05] <preston> ok here is what i got
[11:06] <preston> logfile indicates unclean shutdown failed to mount sdb1 operation not supported mount is denied because ntfs is marked to be in use
[11:07] <preston> i can now it seems acsess my other linux partitions
[11:07] <TheSheep> preston: boot your windows and shutdown properly
[11:07] <preston> i dont have windows installed
[11:07] <preston> this is a external hdd
[11:08] <TheSheep> well, oops
[11:09] <TheSheep> next time don't just ript the plug
[11:09] <TheSheep> preston: the filesystem is left in a state that cannot by mounted on linux
[11:11] <preston> hmmm ok
[11:11] <preston> only one other question concerning system monitor
[11:12] <preston> i cant seem to fire it up i click it but get nothing
[11:13] <TheSheep> preston: isn't system monitor a panel plugin?
[11:15] <preston> it is but its also under applications
[11:16] <preston> i was able to acsess it on the panel
[11:16] <preston> it says im using 269 megs of memory
[11:16] <preston> does that sound high for a live cd
[11:17] <TheSheep> preston: no, that's about normal
[11:24] <preston> thesheep: whats normal for installed
[12:56] <Aladark> http://aladark.wordpress.com/
[01:13] <Joakim> Hi. How can up update my Xubuntu 7.04 to 7.10? Which command? Update-manager doesn't the job.
[01:26] <hyper_ch> !upgrade
[01:26] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:34] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: online?
[03:25] <homebrewcider> hey all, can someone help me please. since "dist-upgrade" the other day, the computer's been running like a dog, can I roll back?
[03:32] <TheSheep> homebrewcider: generally: no
[03:32] <homebrewcider> hmm
[03:32] <TheSheep> homebrewcider: it would be much more worthwhile to find out why it's so slow
[03:33] <homebrewcider> yes it would
[03:33] <TheSheep> homebrewcider: feisty?
[03:33] <homebrewcider> any way I can find out memo ry usage?
[03:33] <TheSheep> homebrewcider: type 'top' in a terminal
[03:34] <homebrewcider> hmm, opera has 3 entries
[03:34] <homebrewcider> ?
[03:36] <TheSheep> try killing them
[03:36] <homebrewcider> chewing up an enormous amount of cpu
[03:36] <homebrewcider> killing them ?
[03:36] <homebrewcider> how?
[03:36] <TheSheep> press 'k' and type the pid of the process to kill
[03:36] <TheSheep> pid is the number in the first column
[03:37] <homebrewcider> i'm on it
[03:38] <homebrewcider> ok, they're killed, what would cause a program to have 3 entries?
[03:39] <TheSheep> starting it three times, for exmaple
[03:40] <homebrewcider> it was crashing, upon restart it would say already running
[03:40] <homebrewcider> hmmm
[03:40] <homebrewcider> okay
[03:40] <TheSheep> it could also have forkedafter you started
[03:40] <homebrewcider> thanx
[03:40] <TheSheep> homebrewcider: apparently it didn't crash, it stayed running in memory
[03:40] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: can you add new things to Ubotu?
[03:41] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: no
[03:41] <TheSheep> !bugs | hyper_ch
[03:41] <ubotu> hyper_ch: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[03:41] <homebrewcider> okay Sheep, many thanks
[03:41] <homebrewcider> seems "Program manager" Kill function did not fully kill it lol
[03:43] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: it's not a bug and the ubotu homepage is down
[03:43] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: wishes qualify too
[03:44] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: place a wish as a bug?
[03:45] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: place a wish as a feature request/enchacement
[03:45] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: well, I see nothing there about that... only about bug filing
[04:06] <Ben_Cs> hello
[04:06] <vinze> Hey Ben_Cs
[04:07] <Ben_Cs> i've installed a network switch on my network. my xubuntu pc has network (see's other pc's) but no internet. how do i fix this?
[04:08] <Ben_Cs> oh never mind. it just took it a minute to work
[04:08] <Ben_Cs> :)
[04:08] <vinze> :)
[04:08] <Ben_Cs> and finally, thanks to the switch my network transfers are fast as should be :)
[04:10] <Ben_Cs> hmmm. i can use Pidgin, and skype, but can't browse http......
[04:11] <Ben_Cs> when i dualboot to winxp i can browse http
[04:11] <Ben_Cs> help pleasde
[04:12] <TheSheep> Ben_Cs: do you have your dns set correctly?
[04:12] <Ben_Cs> ha?
[04:13] <Ben_Cs> don't know
[04:13] <Ben_Cs> it's like some port's work and some don't
[04:14] <Ben_Cs> but winxp has everything working
[04:15] <Ben_Cs> :(
[04:16] <TheSheep> Ben_Cs: do you have your dns set correctly?
[04:18] <Ben_Cs> TheSheep: how do i check?
[04:20] <TheSheep> Ben_Cs: system -> network -> dns
[04:21] <Ben_Cs> seems right
[04:24] <Ben_Cs> so what could be wrong?
[04:24] <TheSheep> Ben_Cs: proxy settings in firefox?
[04:25] <Ben_Cs> TheSheep: i use crossed cable, but my switch can handle it - handles it fine on WinXP, so that's not the cause i guess
[04:25] <TheSheep> Ben_Cs: since your other programs work, it's not the physical layer
[04:26] <Ben_Cs> TheSheep: it's not only firefox: chatx, firefox, don't work.  pidgin,skype do work
[04:27] <Ben_Cs> update manager can't connect aswell
[04:28] <TheSheep> Ben_Cs: open terminal
[04:28] <TheSheep> Ben_Cs: and type 'host google.com'
[04:30] <Ben_Cs> i get info
[04:30] <Ben_Cs> about google
[04:32] <Ben_Cs> btw, skype says it's connected but i am not able to make calls
[04:33] <TheSheep> Ben_Cs: mtr google.com
[04:34] <Ben_Cs> TheSheep: i have some precentage of packe loss
[04:34] <Ben_Cs> *packet
[04:37] <TheSheep> but it gets there?
[04:37] <Ben_Cs> more accurately: the only internet protocol the works is ICQ
[04:37] <Ben_Cs> TheSheep: looks like it gets there, yes
[04:48] <Ben_Cs> i want to cry
[04:58] <Pumpernickel> Sounds like an http proxy problem.
[04:58] <Pumpernickel> Either you're trying to use one and shouldn't, or you aren't using one and should.
[04:59] <Ben_Cs> Pumpernickel: the thing is that other ports than http don't work as well. only icq works
[06:41] <hyper_ch> !envy
[06:41] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[06:45] <hyper_ch> !restricted
[06:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:49] <hyper_ch> !ndiswrapper
[06:49] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:29] <Ancient1> hi .trying to install. when it comes to loading X , i get faintblue color and CD thrashes on and on = doesn't load
[07:30] <Ancient1> any clue ?
[07:31] <Ancient1> oops. trying to use the live-cd
[07:31] <pleia2> how much ram do you have?
[07:31] <Ancient1> 128 sdram
[07:32] <pleia2> that's not enough to run the livecd
[07:32] <pleia2> you'll need to use the alternate cd
[07:32] <Ancient1> it says (F1) thats the minimum. but if u insist.. :)
[07:33] <Ancient1> is the alternate as easy as this cd ?
[07:33] <pleia2> it's a text based installer, but yes, it's very easy
[07:33] <Ancient1> noobs friendly
[07:34] <pleia2> yep
[07:34] <Ancient1> ok. do u think it will run in 128 after i install ?
[07:34] <pleia2> yes
[07:34] <pleia2> see the system requirements on http://xubuntu.com/get
[07:34] <Ancient1> had a hard time.. thought the burning went bad, done again..
[07:35] <Ancient1> ah . ok . great (hmm must've read that :))
[07:36] <Ancient1> say. what swap size should I set ?
[07:36] <pleia2> probably 256
[07:37] <Ancient1> MB ?   nice
[07:37] <Ancient1> thanks !
[07:37] <pleia2> if you're new to this you probably just want the installer to set up partitions for you (including swap), it does a good job
[07:38] <Ancient1> already installed few distros. but I get stuck easy , if u know what i mean ;)
[07:48] <anahata> hi
[07:49] <anahata> can anyone help me figure out how to use an md5 checker to make sure my xubuntu download is uncorrupted?
[07:50] <hyper_ch> anahata: md5check file
[07:50] <Ben_Cs> hello
[07:51] <hyper_ch> Ben_Cs: hiho
[07:51] <Ben_Cs> still have the problem that xubuntu can't get a proper internet connection from router, while WinXP can.
[07:51] <anahata> i'm not in ubuntu right now.... i'm using FastSum and i'm sorry but i don't know how to do it
[07:51] <anahata> i had used md5 checker, thought i did it right, and it came out that the md5 did not match the one listed on the xubuntu site
[07:52] <hyper_ch> anahata: well, this is an ubuntu channel... so we use ubuntu tools ;)
[07:52] <Ben_Cs> meaning: xubuntu gets something like 1% of connection - only icq works, and firefox loads only google.com cause it's lite
[07:52] <anahata> i had torrented the file, i must be doing something wrong b/c supposedly every distro i download is corrupted then
[07:52] <hyper_ch> Ben_Cs: IPv6 deactivated?
[07:52] <anahata> i just want a clean copy of ubuntu so i can start using it :|
[07:53] <hyper_ch> !md5 | anahata
[07:53] <ubotu> anahata: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[07:55] <Ben_Cs> hyper_ch: don't know: suggestions of action?
[07:55] <hyper_ch> !ipv6 | Ben_Cs
[07:55] <ubotu> Ben_Cs: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[07:56] <Ben_Cs> hyper_ch: you rhink i should DISABLE it?
[07:56] <hyper_ch> Ben_Cs: yes
[07:57] <Ben_Cs> hyper_ch: i would think that if WinXP uses it and it works, then xubuntu should use it as well for internet to work
[07:57] <hyper_ch> Ben_Cs: do you think windowsxp uses ipv6 by default as primary internet protocol?
[07:58] <Ben_Cs> thought so
[08:00] <Ben_Cs> well hyper_ch, will try this. be back later to tell results
[08:02] <Ben_Cs> hyper_ch: you think ipv6 not working with the router itself?
[08:03] <hyper_ch> Ben_Cs: does it matter? just try it
[08:03] <Ben_Cs> ok
[08:03] <anahata> i'm looking at the help files you just pointed me to, and i don't understand it
[08:04] <anahata> mostly, one page refers to an md5 file but it's in html format... and the programs looks for a .md5 file i think
[08:07] <Ben_Cs> hyper_ch: ipv6 concerns only internet or lan aswell? cause my internal network works fine on xubuntu
[08:08] <hyper_ch> Ben_Cs: did you read what's written on IPv6?
[08:10] <Ben_Cs> hyper_ch: ok it's internet protocol. i did what the doc said, now i have no internet connection at all
[08:11] <hyper_ch> Ben_Cs: did you restart?
[08:11] <Ben_Cs> yes
[08:12] <hyper_ch> that should have no effect on the connection at all
[08:12] <hyper_ch> just on the dns queries
[08:13] <Ben_Cs> one sec
[08:17] <Ben_Cs_> hyper_ch: ok, so what's now? i have the same problem still. minimum conectivity that is
[08:17] <hyper_ch> Ben_Cs_: no clue then
[08:18] <Ben_Cs_> ok thnx
[08:31] <Ben_Cs> hyper_ch: still here?
[08:32] <hyper_ch> Ben_Cs: yes
[08:33] <Ben_Cs> hyper_ch: remember i had random net drops when had my xubuntu connected directly to winxp pc?
[08:33] <hyper_ch> Ben_Cs: well, I remember you have some problems
[08:33] <Ben_Cs> hyper_ch: and u said i should use a switch?
[08:33] <ICXCNIKA> I am thinking of using Xubuntu instead of Kubuntu for my Inspiron 5100. Does Xubuntu provide the user with a web browser?
[08:33] <hyper_ch> Ben_Cs: could be
[08:33] <hyper_ch> ICXCNIKA: yes
[08:34] <ICXCNIKA> hyper_ch: What is its default web browser if I may ask?
[08:35] <hyper_ch> ICXCNIKA: FF
[08:35] <Ben_Cs> so the only way i got the internet to work is if i set the dsl router as regular dsl modem, which is connected to winxp pc. the winxp pc is in turn connected to a switch and shares the internet connection to the switch. the xubuntu pc is connected to the switch. get the picture? so that should help against random net drops on xubuntu?
[08:35] <ICXCNIKA> hyper_ch: Good.
[08:36] <hyper_ch> Ben_Cs: no clue how your setup works... here my dsl modem sets up the connection itself... and it has 4 ports already for lan
[08:36] <hyper_ch> Ben_Cs: so I don't have to go through a win box
[08:36] <hyper_ch> Ben_Cs: but as said, I have no clue how yours works
[08:36] <Ben_Cs> hyper_ch: good for u. i have a dsl modem with 1 port
[08:37] <hyper_ch> Ben_Cs: does it build the connection on its own?
[08:38] <Ben_Cs> hyper_ch: my question is: is it better that my xubuntu gets it's connection not directly from winxp machine but channeled through a switch that stands between winxp machine and xubuntu machine?
[08:39] <hyper_ch> Ben_Cs: a switch is need to connect more than 2 devices together which seems not to be the case for you
[08:39] <hyper_ch> either hook up a router or a switch to your modem... a switch only if the modem is also a router
[08:40] <Ben_Cs> hyper_ch: to hook it as you suggest makes xubuntu have almost no internet connectivity
[08:40] <hyper_ch> then there is some misconfiguration
[08:41] <Ben_Cs> hyper_ch: but you said u don't have an idea what could it be. neither do i
[08:41] <hyper_ch> well, turning ipv6 off should help
[08:42] <hyper_ch> do you actually have a gateway in your config?
[08:42] <Ben_Cs> hyper_ch: when i look in configs of network in xubuntu the gateway is the routers ip
[08:43] <hyper_ch> Ben_Cs: use ifconfig
[08:46] <Ben_Cs> had it right there aswell
[08:46] <hyper_ch> then I don't know
[10:22] <nikolam> After I installed latest update (Xubuntu 7.04 64 bit) Seamonkey wont start
[10:22] <nikolam> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[10:24] <TheSheep> !bugs
[10:24] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[10:42] <Ancient1> heya , need to MD5SUM the alternate ISO, cd isn't ok . where do I find the ISO's MD5 ?
[10:44] <nikolam> )Hello what is the meaning of top showng 100%si ? Mouse and whole machine got stuck every 10 seconds regularly.
[10:45] <hyper_ch> Ancient1: on the mirror sites where you can download the isos
[10:46] <nikolam> top is not showing any process that is causing high cpu usage. i can hardy typ anything now.
[10:46] <nikolam> I have dual core 2ghz amd btw.
[10:46] <Ancient1> hyper_ch, thx
[10:47] <Ancient1> nikolam I think there's a fix for that , look in ubuntu forums if no one here knows
[10:48] <nikolam> thanks Ancient1
[10:48] <Ancient1> I  remembersomething
[10:48] <Ancient1> oh. ok . GL
[10:49] <nikolam> If I dont go mad on coputer stuck and after 5th reinstall..
[10:49] <Ancient1> no. its something to do with C2D and linux
[10:49] <Ancient1> hmm dual core isn't Core2Duo ;)
[10:53] <Ancient1> ufff  so much hassle with getting xubuntu on cd :(
[10:56] <Ben_Cs> is there a difference for xubuntu if my adsl router configured as pppoe or pppoa?
[10:59] <Ancient1> laters all , thanks for the help
[11:13] <nikolam_> hi
[11:13] <nikolam_> I sort of found solution for blocking machine every ten seconds
[11:14] <nikolam_> I deinstalled SCIM that appeared in the tray and everything depended on it
[11:14] <nikolam_> And now it is ok.
[11:14] <nikolam_> Bah
[11:47] <M_A_K> I just aquired a Macintosh Laptop with only 64 MB RAM.  Can I install xubuntu?
[11:49] <TheSheep> M_A_K: it will be SLOW
[12:03] <Ancient1> f00k me !  everytime I run winMD5sum I get different MD5 !!
[12:04] <Ancient1> its the 3rd iso i d/l