[01:16] <Ubulette> any error message ?
[01:17] <Ubulette> try with xulrunner-1.9 and xulrunner-1.9-dom-inspector
[01:18] <searayman> wait try what?
[01:18] <Ubulette> apt-get install xulrunner-1.9 xulrunner-1.9-dom-inspector
[01:18] <Ubulette> it's in gutsy now
[01:18] <searayman> ok
[01:19] <Ubulette> i've made that mandatory in the next webrunner
[01:20] <searayman> Ubulette: ok still doesnt work
[01:20] <searayman> i am uploadign a screenshot for you
[01:20] <Ubulette> ok
[01:20] <searayman> Ubulette: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2415/1509217951_a86c5539fe_o.png
[01:21] <searayman> thast what i get when i try and run google docs
[01:21] <Ubulette> plz show me the result of : update-alternatives --display xulrunner
[01:22] <searayman> Ubulette: mike@mike-desktop:~$ update-alternatives --display xulrunner
[01:22] <searayman> xulrunner - status is auto.
[01:22] <searayman>  link currently points to /usr/lib/xulrunner/xulrunner
[01:22] <searayman> /usr/lib/xulrunner/xulrunner - priority 50
[01:22] <searayman> /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9a8/xulrunner - priority 50
[01:22] <searayman> Current `best' version is /usr/lib/xulrunner/xulrunner.
[01:22] <searayman> mike@mike-desktop:~$
[01:22] <Ubulette> bingo
[01:22] <Ubulette> you're running xulrunner 1.8
[01:22] <searayman> ok sooo how do i fix this?
[01:23] <Ubulette> you just need to swap.
[01:23] <Ubulette> sudo update-alternatives --config xulrunner
[01:23] <Ubulette> select the other one
[01:24] <searayman> There are 2 alternatives which provide `xulrunner'.
[01:24] <searayman>   Selection    Alternative
[01:24] <searayman> -----------------------------------------------
[01:24] <searayman> *+        1    /usr/lib/xulrunner/xulrunner
[01:24] <searayman>           2    /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9a8/xulrunner
[01:24] <searayman> Press enter to keep the default[*] , or type selection number:
[01:24] <searayman> which do i do 1 or 2
[01:24] <Ubulette> 2
[01:24] <searayman> whcih one should i enter?
[01:24] <searayman> ok
[01:24] <Ubulette> btw, I have a fix for that
[01:24] <searayman> cool it worked!!! thansk
[01:25] <Ubulette> good
[01:25] <searayman> now i just need a webapp for iscrybe......
[01:25] <Ubulette> btw, who told you to ping me ? ;)
[01:25] <searayman> gnomefreak on the ubuntu channel
[01:25] <Ubulette> oh, ok
[01:26] <Ubulette> so, enjoy :)
[01:26] <searayman> thansk
[01:26] <searayman> are webapps hard to make?
[01:26] <searayman> can i just give it a url to make a webapp for?
[01:27] <gnomefreak> yeah i didnt feel comfortable with some of his questions and thats your baby ;)\
[01:27] <Ubulette> gnomefreak, hey, thanks
[01:27] <gnomefreak> Ubulette: anytime, i mow need to hope studio people are up ;)
[01:28] <Ubulette> http://wiki.mozilla.org/WebRunner:Bundle#HowTo
[01:29] <Ubulette> it's quite easy
[01:29] <Ubulette> be sure to include an icon
[01:29] <searayman> i noticed that in the google docs one the cursor which shows where your typing is invisible...
[01:30] <searayman> also once i put all this into a file [Parameters] 
[01:30] <searayman> id=unique-app-id@unique-author-id.whatever
[01:30] <searayman> uri=http://[the-url-what-you-want-to-connect-to] /
[01:30] <searayman> status=yes
[01:30] <searayman> location=no
[01:30] <searayman> sidebar=no
[01:30] <searayman> navigation=no
[01:31] <searayman> it says zip it up with a .webapp how do i make the .webapp
[01:31] <Ubulette> just name your zip .webapp instead of .zip
[01:31] <Ubulette> have a look in /usr/share/webrunner/
[01:32] <searayman> ok and how do i set an icon?
[01:32] <Ubulette> put it in the zip with the right name
[01:33] <searayman> whta name do i give it, liek where in the code to i tell it to use that icon...
[01:34] <searayman> and in that code do i put the link inside the brackets or shoudl i get rid of them?
[01:34] <gnomefreak> this doesnt look easy
[01:35] <searayman> no i think i get it
[01:35] <searayman> i am looking at the other one i just downloaded
[01:37] <searayman> Ubulette: does the id have to be soemthign@something.org?
[01:40] <searayman> Ubulette: you there? coudl u check my trial of this?
[01:41] <Ubulette> well, if it works for you, you're good to go
[01:43] <gnomefreak> is there something that will compress tighter than tar?
[01:43] <Ubulette> the id is supposed to be a unique identifier so somethingidentifyingyourapp@yourdomain
[01:43] <Ubulette> tar doesnt compress, it packs
[01:43] <gnomefreak> need mp3s the tightest i can get it
[01:44] <gnomefreak> tars do compress afaik (you tar up text files it makes them smaller)
[01:46] <Ubulette> tar.gz or .tar.bz2 are compressed
[01:46] <Ubulette> tar alone isn't
[01:46] <gnomefreak> yes
[01:46] <searayman> Ubulette: what if i don't have a domain?
[01:46] <gnomefreak> thats what i meant since i dont use /tar/ alone
[01:46] <Ubulette> searayman, use a fake one, it's just an id
[01:46] <Ubulette> gnomefreak, bz2 is usually better than gz
[01:47] <Ubulette> but for mp3, no luck, it's already a compressed format
[01:47] <searayman> Ubulette: ok but then how do i zip em?
[01:47] <gnomefreak> i know zip cant handle the size that tar.* can but are they tighter?
[01:47] <Ubulette> searayman, put all the files in a dir, zip the content then rename the zip
[01:48] <Ubulette> gnomefreak, what ?
[01:48] <searayman> zip it as in select the .ini. and the icon and then right click and pick archive?
[01:48] <Ubulette> yes
[01:49] <Ubulette> just have a look at one existing webapp
[01:49] <searayman> ok i did all this and mine didnt work
[01:49] <Ubulette> under ubuntu, you'll need your icon to be .xpm
[01:49] <searayman> can i host it on mediafire and send it to u to chekc out?
[01:50] <Ubulette> yep but it's late here, 2am. could it wait tomorrow ?
[01:51] <Ubulette> the idea is to do foo.webapp, a zip containing webapp.ini and foo.{ico,xpm,icns}
[01:51] <Ubulette> ico for win, xpm for unix and icns probably for mac
[01:54] <gnomefreak> zip cant handle files over (example 1gig) where as tars can handle up to 2gigs(again example
[01:54] <Ubulette> gnomefreak, you have mp3 bigger than 1G ?
[01:55] <Ubulette> waaa
[01:55] <Ubulette> depends on the content
[01:55] <gnomefreak> Ubulette: not per mp3 no but amount of mp3s i would like to back up oh yes
[01:56] <Ubulette> try 7zip but with mp3, you'll never gain much
[01:56] <gnomefreak> as it stands total is 2.2gigs
[01:56] <Ubulette> some people convert their mp3 to another format
[01:56] <Ubulette> I don't
[01:57] <gnomefreak> i dont like to either personally i know its one of the bigger formats but thats only 1 price to pay
[01:57] <Ubulette> ogg is usually smaller
[01:57] <gnomefreak> im looking at hacking them is one reason to back them up now
[01:58] <Ubulette> but I prefer quality over size so I prefer flac or mp3 320k
[01:58] <Ubulette> 192k min
[01:58] <Ubulette> space is cheap nowadays
[02:00] <gnomefreak> dvd can have muxic bunt to it?
[02:00] <gnomefreak> burnt
[02:00] <gnomefreak> music
[02:00] <gnomefreak> oh hell you know what i mean
[02:01] <Ubulette> you mean, as data ? dvdr yes
[02:01] <Ubulette> dvd audio is something else
[02:01] <Ubulette> a format of its own
[02:01] <gnomefreak> oh
[02:02] <Ubulette> for dvd audio, you need authoring tools
[02:02] <gnomefreak> i just know the blank dvds i have are single without overlay and 4.7 gigs
[02:02] <Ubulette> that's the disk :)
[02:02] <Ubulette> not the format
[02:03] <Ubulette> "E16 version 0.16.8.10 is now available for download"
[02:03] <gnomefreak> it always has been
[02:04] <gnomefreak> yes i know i am thinking burning one bug tar.gz to dvd just to use as a backup instead of 10 cds
[02:04] <gnomefreak> s/bug/big
[02:05] <Ubulette> test first. tar.gz a dozen mp3, compare the size
[02:06] <Ubulette> i bet on nada
[02:06] <Ubulette> no gain
[02:06] <Ubulette> maybe even bigger
[02:06] <Ubulette> imho, it's not worth the time. just put your mp3 directly on the disc in dirs
[02:06] <gnomefreak> hmmmmm
[02:07] <gnomefreak> they are in my music dir
[02:07] <gnomefreak> not helpfull if something happens
[02:07] <Ubulette> as long as it's not a flat, that will do
[02:07] <gnomefreak> than i have to rip all 20 cds over again, im not even done yet
[02:07] <Ubulette> ?
[02:07] <Ubulette> what
[02:07] <Ubulette> no, do a data disk
[02:07] <gnomefreak> ah
[02:09] <gnomefreak> trying to aviod having 10 cds full of tars that was point of trying with dvd since it holds me
[02:09] <Ubulette> if it's just for backup, data disc is the best/fastest/easier
[02:09] <gnomefreak> more
[02:09] <Ubulette> dvdr could hold data too
[02:09] <Ubulette> well, 2pm i need some sleep
[02:10] <gnomefreak> night
[02:11] <Ubulette> users are complaining that gp a7 is no longer in gutsy
[02:11] <Ubulette> as a8 wiped it but remained in queue
[02:11] <Ubulette> too bad
[02:11] <Ubulette> ok, bed time
[02:11] <Ubulette> 'night
[02:24] <gnomefreak> Ubulette: gnomefreak@Gutsy:~$ policy firefox-granparadiso
[02:24] <gnomefreak> firefox-granparadiso: Installed: 3.0~alpha7-0ubuntu6 Candidate: 3.0~alpha7-0ubuntu6
[02:24] <gnomefreak> gnomefreak@Gutsy:~$ apt-cache madison firefox-granparadiso
[02:24] <gnomefreak> firefox-3.0 | 3.0~alpha8-0ubuntu1 | http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/universe Sources
[02:25] <gnomefreak> only the sources are there, no binaries yet as it seems
[10:18] <Mirv> asac: any news on the ubufox update? are you planning it before the gutsy, still? or maybe gutsy-updates otherwise?
[10:28] <Mirv> asac: I also now put the changes together as a patch in bug 139380
[10:28] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 139380 in ubufox "Untranslated strings in ubufox" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139380
[10:48] <Ubulette> hi
[10:48] <bluekuja> heya ubotu
[10:48] <bluekuja> :D
[10:48] <Ubulette> asac, could you please investigate why ff3 is still stuck in queue?
[10:48] <bluekuja> * Ubulette
[10:48] <bluekuja> :)
[10:48] <bluekuja> how are you today?
[10:48] <Ubulette> maybe admins want us to do something
[10:49] <Ubulette> bluekuja, I'm good, you ?
[10:49] <Ubulette> i'm late too
[10:49] <bluekuja> fine here thanks :)
[10:49] <bluekuja> I was waiting asac as well
[10:49] <Ubulette> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text=firefox
[10:50] <Ubulette> i have to go.
[10:50] <Ubulette> see you all ~8pm
[10:50] <bluekuja> ok, have fun
[10:50] <bluekuja> :)
[10:52] <asac> Ubulette: as i said yesterday ... stuck because of broken depends
[10:52] <Ubulette> oh, asac, if we have to change something in xul, please try to integrate xul.dev #54 as current is hurting people with 1.8 installed + webrunner
[10:53] <Ubulette> depends broken ? it's fully built
[10:53] <asac> yeah ;) ... see bzr branch
[10:53] <asac> Ubulette: you should definitly subscribe to bugmail ;)
[10:53] <bluekuja> heya asac :)
[10:54] <asac> bluekuja: whats up?
[10:54] <bluekuja> asac: lightning upload got a problem, the section was "internet" but it does not exist
[10:54] <bluekuja> asac: I'm fixing and uploading a new revision
[10:54] <asac> bluekuja: yes thanks
[10:54] <bluekuja> asac: libagg is on
[10:54] <bluekuja> asac: there should be a mail with links on your box
[10:54] <asac> bluekuja: is there a bug open?
[10:55] <bluekuja> asac: nope, mertiki sent me a mail
[10:55] <bluekuja> yesterday I guess
[10:55] <asac> bluekuja: you really have to open one so RMs can see in your changelog entry
[10:55] <asac> bluekuja: and document the bug in changelog
[10:55] <bluekuja> asac: ok, I open a bug for them
[10:55] <asac> good
[10:56] <bluekuja> asac: do you have a minute to look at agg?
[10:56] <bluekuja> asac: builds twice fine and everything is ok
[10:56] <bluekuja> asac: who are RMs?
[10:57] <asac> slangasek
[10:57] <bluekuja> oh k^^
[10:57] <asac> is our new power RM
[10:57] <bluekuja> yeah, steve langasek
[10:57] <asac> bluekuja: you can ask on #ubuntu-release i gues ...
[10:57] <asac> you have to tell them that your bug should be milestoned for -rc
[10:57] <asac> then upload a package that closes that -rc bug
[10:58] <bluekuja> asac: also if the package is in universe?
[10:58] <bluekuja> there's no freeze for universe atm
[10:58] <bluekuja> except new
[10:58] <asac> no idea ;)
[10:58] <asac> then you have to just ask RMs to let it in
[10:58] <bluekuja> asac: yup
[10:59] <bluekuja> asac: I guess opening a bug is not needed
[10:59] <bluekuja> I just upload a fix and I ping pitti
[10:59] <bluekuja> ;)
[10:59] <asac> bluekuja: ping before ... bugs are good to be sure
[10:59] <bluekuja> ok
[11:02] <bluekuja> asac: [11:01:31]  <pitti> but for mere bug fixes, the door can be open for very long
[11:02] <bluekuja> I open the bug
[11:03] <bluekuja> and I link it inside debian/changelog as alwais
[11:03] <asac> bluekuja: yes ... its definitly better to have one ... then on upload paste the debdiff there too so RMs can easily review
[11:04] <bluekuja> asac: bug fixes wont go inside approving queue
[11:04] <bluekuja> if they are just bug fixes
[11:04] <bluekuja> they get accepted automatically for now
[11:04] <bluekuja> anyway I'm opening a bug atm
[11:04] <bluekuja> and I attach a rationale
[11:05] <asac> bluekuja: how do they detect bugfixes automatically? probably through changes?
[11:05] <asac> bluekuja: yeah;)
[11:05] <bluekuja> asac: yup
[11:05] <bluekuja> they check closes-lp on .changes file
[11:05] <asac> bluekuja: good :) then i did it right, right from the beginning
[11:06] <bluekuja> :)
[11:06] <bluekuja> asac: It would be great if you can check agg as soon as you can, and if you need any explanation I'm here
[11:09] <asac> bluekuja: i added to todo
[11:09] <bluekuja> :)
[11:09] <asac> will be done ... i guess you send mail, right?
[11:09] <bluekuja> asac: yup
[11:09] <bluekuja> asac: you plan to do it today?
[11:09] <bluekuja> or ?
[11:09] <asac> yes
[11:09] <bluekuja> you rock thanks
[11:10] <asac> unless something hard pops-up of course (e.g. new grave bug for some main package i maintain)
[11:11] <bluekuja> ah yeah :)
[11:11] <bluekuja> asac: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightning-extension-locales/+bug/150492
[11:11] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 150492 in lightning-extension-locales "0.5-0ubuntu1 revision failed to upload" [Undecided,New] 
[11:12] <bluekuja> asac: now grabbing source, fixing and pushing
[11:12] <asac> bluekuja: thanks ... at least test if the translation works at all :)
[11:13] <bluekuja> asac: yup i will
[11:13] <asac> Ubulette: is python functional in xul?
[11:13] <asac> Ubulette: i wonder if I can write a python xpcom componentn :)
[11:14] <asac> for launchpad-webrunner
[11:14] <asac> because we have a python API for launchpad already
[11:14] <asac> hehe ... i gained 400+ karma points yesterady
[11:14] <asac> ;)
[11:14] <asac> not bad for weekend
[11:15] <bluekuja> :D
[11:15] <bluekuja> asac: I downloaded lightning-extension
[11:15] <bluekuja> now installing it
[11:15] <bluekuja> and then locales
[11:15] <asac> bluekuja: you can test like:
[11:15] <asac> LANG=de_DE thunderbird
[11:15] <asac> or export LANG=de_DE
[11:15] <asac> thunderbird
[11:16] <asac> probably same for it_TI
[11:16] <asac> it_IT
[11:16] <bluekuja> ok
[11:16] <bluekuja> asac: so the extension is not needed to be installed then?
[11:16] <asac> bluekuja: yes it is
[11:17] <bluekuja> oki
[11:17] <asac> lightning-extension-locale-xx should depend on lignthing-extension
[11:17] <asac> doesn't it?
[11:17] <asac> if it doesn't please add the depends as well
[11:17] <asac> but i hope it does
[11:17] <bluekuja> let me see
[11:18] <bluekuja> Depends: lightning-extension (>= 0.5), lightning-extension (<< 0.5.1)
[11:18] <bluekuja> yup, it does
[11:18] <bluekuja> now I fix, build, test and push
[11:32] <bluekuja> asac: why some locales got Homepage:
[11:32] <bluekuja> empty?
[11:33] <bluekuja> is it normal?
[11:35] <asac> he?
[11:36] <asac> where do you see that?
[11:37] <bluekuja> inside description field
[11:37] <bluekuja> e.g
[11:37] <bluekuja>  Hungarian menus and messages for lightning-extension.
[11:37] <bluekuja>  .
[11:37] <bluekuja>  Homepage:
[11:39] <bluekuja> asac: if it's normal, I push
[11:39] <bluekuja> it works nice
[11:39] <bluekuja> ;)
[11:43] <bluekuja> asac: maybe there's no homepages for those
[11:48] <asac> bluekuja: where do you see this problem=
[11:48] <asac> ?
[11:48] <bluekuja> asac: lightning-extension-locale-pa-in
[11:48] <bluekuja> for example
[11:48] <bluekuja> asac: lightning-extension-locale-mn another
[11:49] <bluekuja> lightning-extension-locale-sl as well
[11:53] <asac> bluekuja: i don't understand which homepage you mean
[12:03] <bluekuja> asac: in debian/control
[12:03] <bluekuja> asac: every locale got a description
[12:03] <bluekuja> asac: with an Homepage:
[12:03] <bluekuja> at the end
[12:04] <bluekuja> asac: http://paste.ubuntu.com/686/
[12:06] <bluekuja> asac: what should I do?
[12:06] <bluekuja> leave them as they are
[12:06] <bluekuja> ?
[12:21] <asac> bluekuja: looking
[12:21] <asac> bluekuja: ah ... in package description? ... its safe to ignore ig uess
[12:22] <bluekuja> asac: so I leave it?
[12:23] <asac> yes
[12:26] <bluekuja> ok
[12:26] <bluekuja> pushing
[12:27] <asac> thanks
[12:34] <bluekuja> asac: there is a debian/scripts/template/control file as well
[12:34] <bluekuja> asac: with internet section
[12:34] <bluekuja> but I guess it doesnt matter
[12:34] <bluekuja> for the archive
[12:34] <asac> bluekuja: yes ... fix that as well :) ... or remember to do that on next update
[12:34] <bluekuja> asac: pushed already
[12:34] <asac> at best file a bug so its not forgotten
[12:34] <bluekuja> ok
[12:34] <bluekuja> asac: anyway it's not a problem
[12:34] <asac> bluekuja: and tell mertiki ... he should probably maintain a bzr branch for it
[12:35] <asac> yes
[12:35] <asac> its ok
[12:35] <bluekuja> ok, gonna ping him
[12:35] <asac> however next update would then break again ;)
[12:35] <bluekuja> ^^
[12:35] <asac> so better fix it now on some branch ... to not forget
[12:35] <bluekuja> yeah
[12:35] <asac> bluekuja: feel free to open a mozillateam branch
[12:35] <bluekuja> ok
[12:35] <asac> mertiki can then submit updates through his own branch which we can merge before upload
[12:35] <bluekuja> I push current files
[12:35] <bluekuja> going to eat now
[12:35] <bluekuja> brb
[12:35] <asac> bluekuja: yes, please do ... but only debian/ dir of course
[12:36] <bluekuja> only debian dir?
[12:36] <bluekuja> ok
[12:36] <bluekuja> asac: darn
[12:36] <bluekuja> Component: universe Section: misc
[12:36] <bluekuja> it failed again
[12:37] <asac> so fix it for real then ... please check with lintian before upload
[12:39] <bluekuja> talked with pitti
[12:39] <bluekuja> and got rejected
[12:39] <bluekuja> darn template
[12:40] <asac> what got rejected?
[12:40] <bluekuja> I asked him to reject the upload
[12:41] <bluekuja> so I can fix the template as well
[12:41] <bluekuja> brb
[12:42] <asac> ok
[12:42] <asac> bluekuja: if you setup the bzr branch, please replay the few uploads we had
[12:42] <asac> e.g. start with first upload debian/ dir
[12:42] <asac> then second ... then third ;)
[12:43] <asac> its a bit more work, but good to allow mertiki to review the changes :)
[12:48] <bluekuja> asac: yeah, every change a bzr revision
[12:50] <asac> more or less ... for me its enough to have one revision per debian upload happened
[12:50] <asac> but that should be equivalent in our case here ;)
[12:51] <bluekuja> asac; yeah
[12:52] <bluekuja> asac: changed section on the control template as well
[12:52] <bluekuja> now re-pushing
[12:52] <asac> bluekuja: where do you put the branch to?
[12:52] <asac> i th9ink there is a sunbird project?
[12:52] <bluekuja> let me see
[12:52] <asac> https://edge.launchpad.net/sunbird
[12:52] <asac> that exists
[12:52] <asac> use that one to place the branch under
[12:53] <asac> it should comprise the lightning extension because its more or less the same project for now
[12:53] <bluekuja> asac: I guess lightning extension exists as well
[12:53] <asac> no
[12:53] <bluekuja> damn
[12:53] <bluekuja> ok, I'll use sunbird then
[12:54] <bluekuja> asac: anyway I'm pushing it
[12:54] <bluekuja> asac: sections are ok everywhere
[12:54] <bluekuja> both debian/control and template file
[12:56] <asac> bluekuja: does lintian complain?
[12:56] <bluekuja> asac: nope
[12:57] <bluekuja> asac: it did not complain before too
[12:57] <asac> strange
[12:57] <asac> ok
[12:57] <asac> linda?
[12:57] <asac> maybe linda would have complained?
[12:57] <asac> but i doubt it
[12:57] <bluekuja> nothing on linda for that
[12:57] <bluekuja> it's a template file
[12:58] <bluekuja> so it didnt recognize
[12:58] <bluekuja> the error
[12:58] <bluekuja> I'm waiting the mail
[12:58] <bluekuja> to see if the section is ok
[01:01] <bluekuja> asac: again misc
[01:03] <bluekuja> asac: installer moves it to misc without a reason
[01:03] <bluekuja> I'm talking with pitti to have it pushed on web with archive admin tools
[01:04] <bluekuja> asac_: again misc
[01:05] <bluekuja> pitti will move it to web manually then
[01:08] <asac_> bluekuja: why didn't you set web? ... is it really web? where is lightning in?
[01:08] <bluekuja> I set web
[01:08] <bluekuja> everything is set on web now
[01:08] <bluekuja> template and control
[01:08] <bluekuja> yes, it's web
[01:10] <bluekuja> asac: oh, it's for the override
[01:10] <bluekuja> [13:09:34]  <pitti> yes, that's due to the override
[01:10] <bluekuja> [13:09:39]  <pitti> which i need to fix manually anyway
[01:13] <bluekuja> asac_: everything is ok
[01:13] <bluekuja> ;)
[01:15] <asac_> kj
[01:16] <asac_> i hate uploading firfox origs
[01:16] <asac_> they always eat all my bandwidth for soo long
[01:16] <bluekuja> :D
[01:16] <bluekuja> asac_: pitti explained me the override problem
[01:16] <bluekuja> asac_: he has to fix it manually for every package
[01:17] <asac_> yes
[01:17] <asac_> i see
[01:17] <bluekuja> so we have to wait a little bit
[01:17] <bluekuja> more
[01:17] <bluekuja> before having it accepted
[01:19] <asac> yeah ... thats fine
[01:19] <asac> its not really a package with potential to be completely broken :)
[01:19] <bluekuja> yeah
[01:19] <bluekuja> but without that fix
[01:19] <bluekuja> it wont be available
[01:19] <bluekuja> for users
[01:19] <asac>  \o/ bugmail backlog: 5000 mails ... now i am happy
[01:20] <bluekuja> :D
[01:20] <asac> maybe i should send them to /dev/null ;)
[01:20] <bluekuja> lol
[01:20] <asac> oh wrong its just 2500
[01:20] <bluekuja> :D
[01:21] <asac> i think i should unsubscribe from torrent bugs
[01:21] <asac> on most i have no real opinion
[01:23] <bluekuja> asac: we will move to motu-p2p
[01:29] <bluekuja> asac: should I push lightning to bzr as it is on the archive now?
[01:29] <bluekuja> with my fixes to section as well
[01:29] <bluekuja> and I write upload to the archive --> version
[01:45] <asac> bluekuja: if you could replay the uploads that happened it would be nice
[01:45] <asac> at least use mertikis version as initial revision
[01:45] <bluekuja> ok
[01:45] <bluekuja> k
[01:45] <asac> and then the current upload as next
[01:47] <bluekuja> ok great
[02:22] <gnomefreak> asac: if i read that right why do you have ubufox in main depending on flash in multiverse? (was this expected)
[02:23] <asac> i don't
[02:24] <gnomefreak> oh ok
[02:25] <asac> its just that we have that package in the plugin database ... so users will get it suggested
[02:27] <gnomefreak> Ubulette: could the following be what you meant last night dpkg: warning - unable to delete old directory `/etc/firefox-granparadiso/pref': Directory not empty
[02:27] <gnomefreak> asac: ah
[02:27] <gnomefreak> list of those but they shouldnt be a problem on user end
[02:46] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmmm
[02:46] <gnomefreak> Get:10 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/universe firefox-granparadiso-gnome-support 3.0~alpha8-0ubuntu1 [63.6kB] 
[02:46] <gnomefreak> Get:11 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/universe firefox-3.0-gnome-support 3.0~alpha8-0ubuntu1 [81.4kB
[02:46] <gnomefreak> that cant be good/right/way it should work
[02:46] <gnomefreak> it should comflict with firefox-granparadiso-gnome-support
[02:47] <gnomefreak> leaves usless binaries laying around (imho it needs to conflict with it)
[02:50] <DarkMageZ> asac, firefox-3.0 package in gutsy is missing a depends on xulrunner-1.9 :(
[02:52] <asac> DarkMageZ: ubuntu2 should fix this issue for you
[02:52] <asac> DarkMageZ: try to upgrade
[02:53] <asac> DarkMageZ: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/3.0~alpha8-0ubuntu2
[02:53] <DarkMageZ> solong as you know, that's all good :)
[02:57] <asac> DarkMageZ: well ... if that version still has the issue, I would like to know :)
[02:58] <DarkMageZ> ah, k. i've made a note to check that again later.
[03:26] <bluekuja> asac: how far from agg?
[03:52] <IdleOne> having an issue launching GP get an error saying " failed to launch child process .... any help ?
[03:52] <IdleOne> tells me there is no such file or dorectory this is after latest update
[03:54] <asac> IdleOne: which version?
[03:54] <IdleOne> lemme look
[03:54] <asac> dpkg -l firefox-3.0
[03:54] <asac> dpkg -l xulrunner-1.9
[03:54] <asac> IdleOne: ^^
[03:55] <IdleOne> firefox-granparadiso 3.0~alpha8-0ubuntu1 this version
[03:55] <IdleOne> both those commands I need to run?
[03:55] <asac> yes
[03:56] <IdleOne>  no packages found on xulrunner-1.9
[03:57] <asac> IdleOne: you are not up-to-date
[03:57] <asac> run dist-upgrade
[03:57] <asac> apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:57] <asac> sudo  apt-get dist-upgrade :)
[03:57] <IdleOne> I did that is what caused this issue hehe
[03:58] <asac> well try again
[03:58] <IdleOne> ok
[03:58] <asac> apt-get update
[03:58] <asac> dist-upgrade
[03:58] <asac> IdleOne: oh you had ppa packages?
[03:58] <IdleOne> ppa?
[03:58] <asac> then remove firefox-granparadiso first
[03:59] <asac> ah ... sorry
[03:59] <asac> please run the command above
[03:59] <IdleOne> you got me confused
[03:59] <IdleOne> lol
[03:59] <IdleOne> you want m,e to remove firefox-granparadiso?
[03:59] <asac> dpkg -l firefox-3.0
[04:00] <IdleOne> ok
[04:00] <asac> what happens?
[04:00] <IdleOne> idleone@ubuntu-box:~$ dpkg -l firefox-3.0
[04:00] <IdleOne> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
[04:00] <IdleOne> | Status=Not/Installed/Config-f/Unpacked/Failed-cfg/Half-inst/t-aWait/T-pend
[04:00] <IdleOne> |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
[04:00] <IdleOne> ||/ Name           Version        Description
[04:00] <IdleOne> +++-[04:00] <IdleOne> ii  firefox-3.0    3.0~alpha8-0ub lightweight web browser based on Mozilla (De
[04:00] <IdleOne> that is the output
[04:01] <asac> please just dist-upgrade
[04:01] <IdleOne> ok
[04:01] <asac> wait till things arrive
[04:01] <asac> you need ubuntu2
[04:02] <asac> but have ubuntu1
[04:02] <IdleOne> dist-upgrade returns o packages
[04:02] <IdleOne> 0 not o
[04:04] <IdleOne> so I just wait till apt tells me the package is available?
[04:14] <IdleOne> ubuntu2 package is comming now
[04:14] <IdleOne> not bad wasnt that long of a wait
[04:14] <asac> ok
[04:14] <asac> lunch now
[04:15] <IdleOne> enjoy
[04:58] <asac> bug 147744
[04:59] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 147744 in apturl "Ubufox tries to install flashplugin-nonfree, can't find it (multiverse not enabled)" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/147744
[05:17] <bluekuja> asac: does bzr pull effect changes on the mirrored branch as well?
[05:17] <bluekuja> asac: so if I push to branch B it gets automatically mirrored to branch A
[05:17] <IdleOne> asac: still having same issue with GP even after dist-upgrade to ubuntu2
[05:24] <asac> IdleOne: i don't understand your issue to be honest. But maybe i just forgot
[05:24] <asac> what is your problem?
[05:24] <bluekuja> asac: or after pulling I have to push manually
[05:25] <bluekuja> asac: in the mirrored branch
[05:26] <asac> bluekuja: what is a mirrored branch?
[05:26] <bluekuja> asac: I was using bzr pull to mirror alioth's branch to launchpad bzr
[05:26] <bluekuja> asac: does it work?
[05:27] <asac> why would it?
[05:27] <asac> there is nothing like a cron service on alioth
[05:27] <bluekuja> asac: I'm asking you if mirroring a branch is possible
[05:27] <asac> bluekuja: just set up a branch in launchpad
[05:28] <asac> and tell him where the one to mirror is
[05:28] <bluekuja> asac: I have a branch on lp and I did bzr pull alioth-branch
[05:29] <bluekuja> asac: is that right?
[06:18] <asac> bluekuja: well ... in that direction it won't work automatically
[06:18] <asac> only launchpad can automatically sync a branch
[06:19] <asac> just browse around on launchpad ... you will surely find that issue
[06:19] <asac> that feature
[06:19] <bluekuja> asac: so I have to do bzr pull lp branch
[06:19] <bluekuja> and not alioth one
[06:20] <asac> i honestly don't understand your problem ;)
[06:20] <asac> but that might be my problem ... being a moron today
[06:20] <bluekuja> asac: i want to mirror a branch
[06:21] <bluekuja> so I dont have to push in two different places
[06:21] <bluekuja> I want to have a branch in lp and one in alioth
[06:21] <asac> bluekuja: then push and pull from alioth
[06:21] <asac> and setup the branch to be synched from there
[06:21] <asac> you will find that
[06:21] <bluekuja> I cant find that on launchpad
[06:22] <bluekuja> I cant find a place like "mirror branch"
[06:22] <bluekuja> or something like that
[06:22] <asac> bluekuja: look closer
[06:22] <asac> setup a branch
[06:23] <asac> then you set the upstream branch for it
[06:23] <asac> bluekuja: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/sunbird/+addbranch
[06:24] <bluekuja> asac: yeah
[06:24] <bluekuja> mirrored is there!
[06:24] <bluekuja> thanks mate
[06:25] <bluekuja> asac: is agg far inside your TODO?
[06:25] <asac> not yet on top
[06:25] <bluekuja> ok, ping me when you start
[06:26] <bluekuja> I'll be on later as well
[06:26] <bluekuja> now I start working on that branch
[06:45] <asac> cwong1: hi
[06:45] <cwong1> asac:  hi I saw you fixed the menu
[06:45] <asac> cwong1: i have the release ready, but i am unsure about the huge copy action of the whole preferences folder
[06:45] <asac> yeah
[06:45] <bluekuja> asac: after mirroring it in lp, is necessary to pull?
[06:45] <asac> i also started to debug the gconf proxy setting thing
[06:45] <bluekuja> asac: or gets mirrored automatically?
[06:45] <asac> basically it works, but there are still bugs
[06:45] <cwong1> asac: I didn't want to make the changes in the browser diretory
[06:46] <asac> bluekuja: just be patient ... should happen automatically from what i know
[06:46] <asac> bluekuja: or ask on launchpad
[06:46] <cwong1> asac: thats why I cloned the files into midbrowser
[06:46] <bluekuja> asac: ok alex
[06:46] <asac> cwong1: yes, which files die you change (except for the chrome urls)
[06:46] <asac> cwong1: isn't it just one or two preferences tab?
[06:46] <cwong1> asac: I removed all the help button from the preferences tabs
[06:47] <cwong1> asac: and the "Tab" tab
[06:47] <cwong1> asac: was changed
[06:47] <asac> cwong1: hmm so each preference tab ships its own help button?
[06:47] <asac> ok
[06:47] <asac> cwong1: ok ... i would really like to do something
[06:47] <cwong1> asac: ok what?
[06:47] <asac> cwong1: uncommit that change and split it in two commits:
[06:48] <asac> 1. copy over what is in browser
[06:48] <asac> 2. do the changes
[06:48] <cwong1> ok
[06:48] <cwong1> thats fine with me
[06:48] <asac> that should allow us later to use diff-3 to merge in changes that are done upstream in browser
[06:48] <cwong1> sounds reasonable
[06:48] <asac> cwong1: ok let me look
[06:59] <asac> cwong1: ok i pushed a pre-rebased version to WORKING
[06:59] <asac> if you pull working you can git reset --hard HEAD^
[06:59] <asac> and then redo the changes
[06:59] <asac> maybe create a backup branch by git checkout -b backup1
[06:59] <asac> before resetting top revision
[06:59] <asac> if you have done the same in two revisions let me know so i can rebase it to master again
[07:00] <cwong1> ok I will do it.  But It will takes an hour or so.  I crashed my system and in the middle of a rebuild.
[07:01] <asac> cwong1: ok ... i will look when i return from sport and beer and if the commit is there, build release and upload
[07:01] <asac> thanks
[07:01] <cwong1> thanks
[07:02] <asac> cwong1: maybe do a reset --hard HEAD^^^^ ... to uncomiit the currently top 4 commits
[07:02] <cwong1> ok
[07:02] <asac> the commits for nsWindow.cpp are not used ... same for the * Testing asac's write access  commit
[07:02] <cwong1> got it
[07:02] <asac> fine
[08:04] <Ubulette> hi
 Ubulette: could the following be what you meant last night dpkg: warning - unable to delete old directory `/etc/firefox-granparadiso/pref': Directory not empty
[08:37] <Ubulette> hmm, I don't know why it has been left behind, but we can clean that for sure
 Ubulette: is python functional in xul?
 Ubulette: i wonder if I can write a python xpcom componentn :)
 for launchpad-webrunner
 because we have a python API for launchpad already
[08:38] <Ubulette> asac, you want a xulapp, not a webapp, this is totally different
[08:39] <Ubulette> I've made a lp webapp already
[08:39] <Ubulette> not very usable at the moment. I need to patch webrunner
[08:56] <bluekuja> heya mertiki
[08:56] <mertiki> hi bluekuja :)
[08:56] <mertiki> bluekuja : How are you today
[08:57] <bluekuja> mertiki: quite fine thanks
[08:57] <bluekuja> mertiki: I fixed lightning-locales
[08:57] <bluekuja> did you see?
[08:57] <mertiki> bluekuja : Was this just a error in the control file?
[08:58] <bluekuja> mertiki: yeah
[08:58] <mertiki> bluekuja : I didn't receive another message from launchpad buildd system
[09:00] <bluekuja> mertiki: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightning-extension-locales/0.5-0ubuntu2
[09:00] <mertiki> good|
[09:00] <mertiki> yes that's it
[09:00] <mertiki> I was looking at the ubuntu1 version
[09:01] <bluekuja> mertiki: now we have a working locales
[09:01] <bluekuja> thanks for your work
[09:01] <bluekuja> asac: tell me when back
[09:01] <mertiki> tested, it works flawlessly
[09:03] <bluekuja> mertiki: yeah, works like a charm
[09:03] <bluekuja> well done
[09:03] <mertiki> bluekuja : thanks for your help too :)
[09:03] <bluekuja> :)
[09:03] <bluekuja> np, glad to help
[09:03] <mertiki> same here :)
[09:04] <bluekuja> :)
[09:04] <mertiki> bluekuja : In order to be installed automatically as a language support (like the Thunderbird language package), does this package needs to be in main?
[09:06] <bluekuja> mertiki: to have it installed automatically need to be in restricted
[09:06] <bluekuja> but  it's hard to have it inside main/restricted
[09:06] <bluekuja> needs time
[09:07] <mertiki> Ok
[09:11] <mertiki> great, I'm happy that this project gave final results!
[09:14] <bluekuja> mertiki: :)
[09:14] <bluekuja> mertiki: get ready for hardy
[09:15] <mertiki> bluekuja : hehe, I will
[09:15] <bluekuja> cool, I'll wait some of your debdiffs then
[09:16] <mertiki> bluekuja : Of course, I will take some time to speak with asac after Gutsy final release to work on some of his ideas and my ideas too :)
[09:17] <mertiki> bluekuja : I must go now, thanks again for the quick upload
[09:17] <bluekuja> mertiki: np, have fun and thanks again
[09:17] <mertiki> :) +
[09:17] <mertiki> @+ *
[09:37] <cwong1> asac: ping
[09:46] <kaba> hi, could you plz influence the Gecko-development, that this pitiful bug is ironed-out? http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=382824
[09:46] <ubotu> Gnome bug 382824 in gtk "Dragging non-ascii text from gecko to GtkEntry sometimes inserts invalid UTF-8" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] 
[10:01] <gnomefreak> Ubulette: are we planing on removing -granparadiso and just keep -3.0
[10:02] <Ubulette> gp and trunk are now just dummies
[10:02] <Ubulette> not sure when we could get rid of them
[10:02] <Ubulette> is there a policy for that ?
[10:06] <gnomefreak> the dummy packages are being upgraded with -3.0 including gp-gnome-supprt and friends
[10:06] <Ubulette> right
[10:07] <gnomefreak> there is no policy about them afaik
[10:07] <gnomefreak> maybe wait for ubuntu3 than pull them?
[10:08] <Ubulette> it usually lasts longer than that
[10:08] <gnomefreak> im thinking let them go before release sometime
[10:08] <gnomefreak> once release its gonna be a bitch to drop them
[10:09] <Ubulette> if someone miss the short window, they will be doomed too
[10:09] <Ubulette> so it's better stick with that
[10:09] <gnomefreak> it can be pulled from repos after release but its a bit harder than while still in devel, atleast it was with the packages i had dropped from gutsy and feisty
[10:10] <Ubulette> but i have no hard feeling here
[10:10] <Ubulette> look at ethereal -> wireshark
[10:11] <gnomefreak> Ubulette: just like firefox 2 still has one mozilla-firefox
[10:11] <gnomefreak> but iirc it doesnt use the binaries for its stelf
[10:11] <Ubulette> same here
[10:11] <gnomefreak> it uses the same binaries
[10:11] <Ubulette> those dummies are empty packages
[10:11] <gnomefreak> Ubulette: no i have firefox-granparadiso-gnome-support and firefox-3.0-gnome-support
[10:11] <Ubulette> yep
[10:12] <Ubulette> list firefox-granparadiso-gnome-support
[10:12] <gnomefreak> those are 2 binaries that are the same but if you look at firefox its only one binary for it
[10:13] <gnomefreak> 2.0.0.6+2nobinonly-0ubuntu1????
[10:13] <Ubulette> :)
[10:13] <Ubulette> not my idea
[10:13] <gnomefreak> wth is no bin only
[10:13] <gnomefreak> i know bin == binary
[10:13] <Ubulette> just a stripped tarball to remove binary only files
[10:13] <gnomefreak> ah ok and we named it?
[10:14] <Ubulette> asac did it
[10:14] <gnomefreak> Ubulette: i know
[10:14] <Ubulette> not possible
[10:14] <gnomefreak> why not possible?
[10:14] <Ubulette> we chnanged tarball so we had to change version
[10:15] <gnomefreak> Ubulette: changed tarball change one number in version maybe 2 not the full name
[10:15] <Ubulette> change something before the dash
[10:15] <gnomefreak> 2.0.0.6+#change-0ubuntu1
[10:15] <gnomefreak> since the +2 is upstream tarball maybe thats why
[10:16] <Ubulette> # is probably forbidden
[10:16] <Ubulette> oh
[10:16] <Ubulette> lol
[10:16] <gnomefreak> Ubulette: # == 2 or 3 or 4 or whatever
[10:16] <gnomefreak> bumped up one from other version
[10:20] <gnomefreak> where is mozillas svn
[10:21] <Ubulette> you mean git ?
[10:21] <Ubulette> hm, no, hg
[10:22] <gnomefreak> finding google isnt easy to use with cvs svn git or friens
[10:22] <gnomefreak> friends
[10:23] <gnomefreak> thier moving shit around again i see
[10:34] <gnomefreak> you know these people make me sick
[10:35] <Ubulette_> ?
[10:35] <gnomefreak> everyone hates that mozilla moved seamonky profile to fit the rest of mozilla apps so it would now be !/.mozilla/seamonkey/profile
[10:35] <gnomefreak> -! + ~
[10:36] <gnomefreak> not far off from ~/.mozilla/default/profilename
[10:39] <gnomefreak> /.mozilla/seamonkey/<ProfileName>  ~/.mozilla.org/seamonkey/<ProfileName>
[10:39] <gnomefreak> those are the changes but 1.1.4 doesnt give us a ~/.mozilla.org fir
[10:39] <gnomefreak> dir.
[10:41] <Ubulette> hmm, mozilla ships cairo 1.5.1 while gutsy has 1.4.10
[10:42] <Ubulette> http://mxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/source/gfx/cairo/cairo/src/cairo-features.h.in#58
[10:45] <gnomefreak> can we change to use mozillas? afaik we are using ours atm
[10:46] <Ubulette> nope. we dropped ours with a7 because of an assert on shutdown
[10:47] <gnomefreak> is there an easy way to tell the diff. between source tarball and normal tarball from mozilla?
[10:47] <gnomefreak> Ubulette: oh we did end up going with thiers :)
[10:47] <Ubulette> yep, since a7
[10:47] <gnomefreak> Ubulette: i remember that problem i thought we kept it the same though
[10:48] <gnomefreak> 13mb seems more like normal installer tarbal
[10:48] <gnomefreak> tarball
[10:49] <Ubulette> for what ?
[10:50] <gnomefreak> they have seamonkey tarballs but i dont believe they release nightly sources and serarching with google gave me nothing on cvs svn or git
[10:51] <gnomefreak> once i get the source i believe we left the rules file alone so i should beable to produce orig.tar easy
[10:51] <Ubulette> that's a task for mozclient
[10:52] <Ubulette> btw, i've added a target to mozclient for you
[10:52] <Ubulette>    make thunderbird-orig      Create thunderbird-3.0 sources tarball
[10:52] <gnomefreak> ah ty
[10:52] <Ubulette> it's stripped for binaries and tests like ff and xul
[10:52] <Ubulette> -for-from
[10:54] <Ubulette> cairo 1.5.1 is not even released. it's from upstream git
[10:55] <gnomefreak> wth is mozilla git?
[10:55] <gnomefreak> ah only source tarballs have a makefile i guess
 http://hg.mozilla.org/
[10:56] <Ubulette> no official git
[10:57] <Ubulette> but there's one somewhere
[10:57] <gnomefreak> ill look at it ty
[11:10] <gnomefreak> mozilla cvs sucks
[11:10] <Ubulette> lol
[11:11] <gnomefreak> it makes no damn sense
[11:12] <gnomefreak> i have to checkout the client.mk than the mozconfig although mozconfig failed cannot find the moduless
[11:13] <gnomefreak> instructions here suck http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Mozilla_Source_Code_Via_CVS#Checkout
[11:14] <Ubulette> use mozclient
[11:15] <Ubulette> is it for seamonkey ?
[11:15] <gnomefreak> yes
[11:15] <Ubulette> do:
[11:15] <gnomefreak> mozclient isnt set up for it
[11:15] <Ubulette> make client
[11:15] <gnomefreak> is it?
[11:15] <Ubulette> make -f mozilla/client.mk checkout MOZ_CO_PROJECT=suite
[11:15] <Ubulette> then you tar yourself
[11:16] <gnomefreak> make client is separate from make -f?
[11:16] <Ubulette> do just as I typed
[11:16] <gnomefreak> im updating mozclient now
[11:16] <gnomefreak> k
[11:16] <Ubulette> client is a target from mozclient
[11:16] <Ubulette> do just co client.mk and patch it
[11:17] <Ubulette> -do+to
[11:18] <gnomefreak> its downloading
[11:18] <Ubulette> cool
[11:19] <Ubulette> btw, it's explained in the README of mozclient
[11:19] <gnomefreak> i though mozclient just made tarballs
[11:20] <gnomefreak> brb smoke while this is going. and im assuming since you said "than tar it up yourself" mozclient isnt set to tar it up yet (but still should be easy)
[11:27] <gnomefreak> so just tar up the mozilla dir and the patches dir?
[11:28] <Ubulette> patches dir ?
[11:29] <gnomefreak> yes i thought it was make client that made that but maybe its mozclients patches dir
[11:29] <gnomefreak> it has nss nspr adn xul patches
[11:29] <Ubulette> you don't need that. just tar the mozilla dir
[11:30] <Ubulette> exclude the cvs stuff
[11:30] <Ubulette> --exclude=CVS --exclude=.cvsignore
[11:30] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[11:39] <gnomefreak> lmfao tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[11:40] <gnomefreak> lets try it withou thte --flags and ill go in and fix it if it works
[11:44] <Ubulette> tar zcf foo_version.tar.gz --exclude=CVS --exclude=.cvsignore foo-version
[11:46] <gnomefreak> foo-version?
[11:47] <gnomefreak> tar zcf iceape_2.0-cvs20071008t1745.orig.tar.gz --exclude=CVS --exclude=.cvsignore mozilla
[11:47] <gnomefreak> that look right
[11:48] <gnomefreak> oops does that look right i mean
[11:50] <Ubulette> i think you need to move mozilla into iceape-2.0-cvs20071008t1745 first
[11:50] <Ubulette> and use ~ not -
[11:51] <Ubulette> 2.0~cvs
[11:51] <Ubulette> is 2.0 the upstream version ?
[11:51] <gnomefreak> yes but i guess i should use exact alpha or beta versioning as well
[11:51] <Ubulette> yes
[11:52] <gnomefreak> a1pre
[11:52] <Ubulette> why are you using the debian name ? I thought ubuntu was allowed to use mozilla brandings
[11:53] <Ubulette> a1pre, waa, like tb.
[11:53] <Ubulette> so a1~cvs
[11:53] <gnomefreak> easier to maintain for now
[11:54] <Ubulette> i've pushed minefield a9 to our ppa
[01:02] <asac> Ubulette: what is the difference of a xul-wepapp ... vs. a xulapp ... i understood a xul-webapp to be xulapp that just focusses on providing XUL interface for a specific website
[01:03] <Ubulette> a xulapp is a program in xul/js while a webapp is just an url and an icon
[01:03] <Ubulette> webrunner being a xulapp
[01:03] <asac> Ubulette: i know the difference
[01:03] <asac> Ubulette: i just thought that a xul-wepapp would b more than just a website in a xul window :)
[01:04] <asac> e.g. being capable to still deploy a chrome et al
[01:04] <asac> but you are right, maybe i just want a full xulapp
[01:05] <Ubulette> in a webapp, the url is kind of trapped
[01:05] <Ubulette> that's why it doesnt worek for lp
[01:05] <Ubulette> work
[01:05] <Ubulette> for lp, we need to trap the domain, not the host
[01:06] <Ubulette> for that, webrunner needs to be patched
[01:08] <asac> hmm
[01:08] <asac> i think i have to look into this more closely
[01:09] <Ubulette> by trap, I mean that if you leave the initial host (provided by the url), the link goes to your default/active browser, not in the webapp
[01:10] <asac> ah ok. i see
[01:10] <asac> thats a feature my lp xulapp wants as well :)
[01:13] <Ubulette> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/webrunner/webrunner-launchpad