[01:16] any error message ? [01:17] try with xulrunner-1.9 and xulrunner-1.9-dom-inspector [01:18] wait try what? [01:18] apt-get install xulrunner-1.9 xulrunner-1.9-dom-inspector [01:18] it's in gutsy now [01:18] ok [01:19] i've made that mandatory in the next webrunner [01:20] Ubulette: ok still doesnt work [01:20] i am uploadign a screenshot for you [01:20] ok [01:20] Ubulette: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2415/1509217951_a86c5539fe_o.png [01:21] thast what i get when i try and run google docs === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp121-44-55-148.lns10.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [01:21] plz show me the result of : update-alternatives --display xulrunner [01:22] Ubulette: mike@mike-desktop:~$ update-alternatives --display xulrunner [01:22] xulrunner - status is auto. [01:22] link currently points to /usr/lib/xulrunner/xulrunner [01:22] /usr/lib/xulrunner/xulrunner - priority 50 [01:22] /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9a8/xulrunner - priority 50 [01:22] Current `best' version is /usr/lib/xulrunner/xulrunner. [01:22] mike@mike-desktop:~$ [01:22] bingo [01:22] you're running xulrunner 1.8 [01:22] ok sooo how do i fix this? [01:23] you just need to swap. [01:23] sudo update-alternatives --config xulrunner [01:23] select the other one [01:24] There are 2 alternatives which provide `xulrunner'. [01:24] Selection Alternative [01:24] ----------------------------------------------- [01:24] *+ 1 /usr/lib/xulrunner/xulrunner [01:24] 2 /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9a8/xulrunner [01:24] Press enter to keep the default[*] , or type selection number: [01:24] which do i do 1 or 2 [01:24] 2 [01:24] whcih one should i enter? [01:24] ok [01:24] btw, I have a fix for that [01:24] cool it worked!!! thansk [01:25] good [01:25] now i just need a webapp for iscrybe...... [01:25] btw, who told you to ping me ? ;) [01:25] gnomefreak on the ubuntu channel [01:25] oh, ok [01:26] so, enjoy :) [01:26] thansk [01:26] are webapps hard to make? [01:26] can i just give it a url to make a webapp for? [01:27] yeah i didnt feel comfortable with some of his questions and thats your baby ;)\ [01:27] gnomefreak, hey, thanks [01:27] Ubulette: anytime, i mow need to hope studio people are up ;) [01:28] http://wiki.mozilla.org/WebRunner:Bundle#HowTo [01:29] it's quite easy [01:29] be sure to include an icon [01:29] i noticed that in the google docs one the cursor which shows where your typing is invisible... [01:30] also once i put all this into a file [Parameters] [01:30] id=unique-app-id@unique-author-id.whatever [01:30] uri=http://[the-url-what-you-want-to-connect-to] / [01:30] status=yes [01:30] location=no [01:30] sidebar=no [01:30] navigation=no [01:31] it says zip it up with a .webapp how do i make the .webapp [01:31] just name your zip .webapp instead of .zip [01:31] have a look in /usr/share/webrunner/ [01:32] ok and how do i set an icon? [01:32] put it in the zip with the right name [01:33] whta name do i give it, liek where in the code to i tell it to use that icon... [01:34] and in that code do i put the link inside the brackets or shoudl i get rid of them? [01:34] this doesnt look easy [01:35] no i think i get it [01:35] i am looking at the other one i just downloaded [01:37] Ubulette: does the id have to be soemthign@something.org? === gnomefreak working on music (thats what i meant by doesnt look easy [01:40] Ubulette: you there? coudl u check my trial of this? [01:41] well, if it works for you, you're good to go [01:43] is there something that will compress tighter than tar? [01:43] the id is supposed to be a unique identifier so somethingidentifyingyourapp@yourdomain [01:43] tar doesnt compress, it packs [01:43] need mp3s the tightest i can get it [01:44] tars do compress afaik (you tar up text files it makes them smaller) [01:46] tar.gz or .tar.bz2 are compressed [01:46] tar alone isn't [01:46] yes [01:46] Ubulette: what if i don't have a domain? [01:46] thats what i meant since i dont use /tar/ alone [01:46] searayman, use a fake one, it's just an id [01:46] gnomefreak, bz2 is usually better than gz [01:47] but for mp3, no luck, it's already a compressed format [01:47] Ubulette: ok but then how do i zip em? [01:47] i know zip cant handle the size that tar.* can but are they tighter? [01:47] searayman, put all the files in a dir, zip the content then rename the zip [01:48] gnomefreak, what ? [01:48] zip it as in select the .ini. and the icon and then right click and pick archive? [01:48] yes [01:49] just have a look at one existing webapp [01:49] ok i did all this and mine didnt work [01:49] under ubuntu, you'll need your icon to be .xpm [01:49] can i host it on mediafire and send it to u to chekc out? [01:50] yep but it's late here, 2am. could it wait tomorrow ? [01:51] the idea is to do foo.webapp, a zip containing webapp.ini and foo.{ico,xpm,icns} [01:51] ico for win, xpm for unix and icns probably for mac [01:54] zip cant handle files over (example 1gig) where as tars can handle up to 2gigs(again example [01:54] gnomefreak, you have mp3 bigger than 1G ? [01:55] waaa === gnomefreak would like to compress say 2gigs as small as possible what is best way [01:55] depends on the content [01:55] Ubulette: not per mp3 no but amount of mp3s i would like to back up oh yes [01:56] try 7zip but with mp3, you'll never gain much [01:56] as it stands total is 2.2gigs [01:56] some people convert their mp3 to another format [01:56] I don't [01:57] i dont like to either personally i know its one of the bigger formats but thats only 1 price to pay [01:57] ogg is usually smaller [01:57] im looking at hacking them is one reason to back them up now [01:58] but I prefer quality over size so I prefer flac or mp3 320k [01:58] 192k min [01:58] space is cheap nowadays [02:00] dvd can have muxic bunt to it? [02:00] burnt [02:00] music [02:00] oh hell you know what i mean [02:01] you mean, as data ? dvdr yes [02:01] dvd audio is something else [02:01] a format of its own [02:01] oh [02:02] for dvd audio, you need authoring tools [02:02] i just know the blank dvds i have are single without overlay and 4.7 gigs [02:02] that's the disk :) [02:02] not the format [02:03] "E16 version 0.16.8.10 is now available for download" [02:03] it always has been [02:04] yes i know i am thinking burning one bug tar.gz to dvd just to use as a backup instead of 10 cds [02:04] s/bug/big [02:05] test first. tar.gz a dozen mp3, compare the size [02:06] i bet on nada [02:06] no gain [02:06] maybe even bigger [02:06] imho, it's not worth the time. just put your mp3 directly on the disc in dirs [02:06] hmmmmm [02:07] they are in my music dir [02:07] not helpfull if something happens [02:07] as long as it's not a flat, that will do [02:07] than i have to rip all 20 cds over again, im not even done yet [02:07] ? [02:07] what [02:07] no, do a data disk [02:07] ah [02:09] trying to aviod having 10 cds full of tars that was point of trying with dvd since it holds me [02:09] if it's just for backup, data disc is the best/fastest/easier [02:09] more [02:09] dvdr could hold data too [02:09] well, 2pm i need some sleep [02:10] night [02:11] users are complaining that gp a7 is no longer in gutsy [02:11] as a8 wiped it but remained in queue [02:11] too bad [02:11] ok, bed time [02:11] 'night [02:24] Ubulette: gnomefreak@Gutsy:~$ policy firefox-granparadiso [02:24] firefox-granparadiso: Installed: 3.0~alpha7-0ubuntu6 Candidate: 3.0~alpha7-0ubuntu6 [02:24] gnomefreak@Gutsy:~$ apt-cache madison firefox-granparadiso [02:24] firefox-3.0 | 3.0~alpha8-0ubuntu1 | http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/universe Sources [02:25] only the sources are there, no binaries yet as it seems === jbs [n=Bernardo@89.181.9.131] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === Admiral_laptop [n=Freddy@st074039212101.monm.edu] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [10:18] asac: any news on the ubufox update? are you planning it before the gutsy, still? or maybe gutsy-updates otherwise? === Admiral_laptop [n=Freddy@st074039212101.monm.edu] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [10:28] asac: I also now put the changes together as a patch in bug 139380 [10:28] Launchpad bug 139380 in ubufox "Untranslated strings in ubufox" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139380 [10:48] hi [10:48] heya ubotu [10:48] :D [10:48] asac, could you please investigate why ff3 is still stuck in queue? [10:48] * Ubulette [10:48] :) [10:48] how are you today? [10:48] maybe admins want us to do something [10:49] bluekuja, I'm good, you ? [10:49] i'm late too [10:49] fine here thanks :) [10:49] I was waiting asac as well [10:49] https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text=firefox [10:50] i have to go. [10:50] see you all ~8pm [10:50] ok, have fun [10:50] :) [10:52] Ubulette: as i said yesterday ... stuck because of broken depends [10:52] oh, asac, if we have to change something in xul, please try to integrate xul.dev #54 as current is hurting people with 1.8 installed + webrunner [10:53] depends broken ? it's fully built [10:53] yeah ;) ... see bzr branch [10:53] Ubulette: you should definitly subscribe to bugmail ;) [10:53] heya asac :) [10:54] bluekuja: whats up? [10:54] asac: lightning upload got a problem, the section was "internet" but it does not exist [10:54] asac: I'm fixing and uploading a new revision [10:54] bluekuja: yes thanks [10:54] asac: libagg is on [10:54] asac: there should be a mail with links on your box [10:54] bluekuja: is there a bug open? [10:55] asac: nope, mertiki sent me a mail [10:55] yesterday I guess [10:55] bluekuja: you really have to open one so RMs can see in your changelog entry [10:55] bluekuja: and document the bug in changelog [10:55] asac: ok, I open a bug for them [10:55] good [10:56] asac: do you have a minute to look at agg? [10:56] asac: builds twice fine and everything is ok [10:56] asac: who are RMs? [10:57] slangasek [10:57] oh k^^ [10:57] is our new power RM [10:57] yeah, steve langasek [10:57] bluekuja: you can ask on #ubuntu-release i gues ... [10:57] you have to tell them that your bug should be milestoned for -rc [10:57] then upload a package that closes that -rc bug [10:58] asac: also if the package is in universe? [10:58] there's no freeze for universe atm [10:58] except new [10:58] no idea ;) [10:58] then you have to just ask RMs to let it in [10:58] asac: yup [10:59] asac: I guess opening a bug is not needed [10:59] I just upload a fix and I ping pitti [10:59] ;) [10:59] bluekuja: ping before ... bugs are good to be sure [10:59] ok [11:02] asac: [11:01:31] but for mere bug fixes, the door can be open for very long [11:02] I open the bug [11:03] and I link it inside debian/changelog as alwais [11:03] bluekuja: yes ... its definitly better to have one ... then on upload paste the debdiff there too so RMs can easily review [11:04] asac: bug fixes wont go inside approving queue [11:04] if they are just bug fixes [11:04] they get accepted automatically for now [11:04] anyway I'm opening a bug atm [11:04] and I attach a rationale [11:05] bluekuja: how do they detect bugfixes automatically? probably through changes? [11:05] bluekuja: yeah;) [11:05] asac: yup [11:05] they check closes-lp on .changes file [11:05] bluekuja: good :) then i did it right, right from the beginning [11:06] :) [11:06] asac: It would be great if you can check agg as soon as you can, and if you need any explanation I'm here [11:09] bluekuja: i added to todo [11:09] :) [11:09] will be done ... i guess you send mail, right? [11:09] asac: yup [11:09] asac: you plan to do it today? [11:09] or ? [11:09] yes [11:09] you rock thanks [11:10] unless something hard pops-up of course (e.g. new grave bug for some main package i maintain) [11:11] ah yeah :) [11:11] asac: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightning-extension-locales/+bug/150492 [11:11] Launchpad bug 150492 in lightning-extension-locales "0.5-0ubuntu1 revision failed to upload" [Undecided,New] [11:12] asac: now grabbing source, fixing and pushing [11:12] bluekuja: thanks ... at least test if the translation works at all :) [11:13] asac: yup i will [11:13] Ubulette: is python functional in xul? [11:13] Ubulette: i wonder if I can write a python xpcom componentn :) [11:14] for launchpad-webrunner [11:14] because we have a python API for launchpad already [11:14] hehe ... i gained 400+ karma points yesterady [11:14] ;) [11:14] not bad for weekend [11:15] :D [11:15] asac: I downloaded lightning-extension [11:15] now installing it [11:15] and then locales [11:15] bluekuja: you can test like: [11:15] LANG=de_DE thunderbird [11:15] or export LANG=de_DE [11:15] thunderbird [11:16] probably same for it_TI [11:16] it_IT [11:16] ok [11:16] asac: so the extension is not needed to be installed then? [11:16] bluekuja: yes it is [11:17] oki [11:17] lightning-extension-locale-xx should depend on lignthing-extension [11:17] doesn't it? [11:17] if it doesn't please add the depends as well [11:17] but i hope it does [11:17] let me see [11:18] Depends: lightning-extension (>= 0.5), lightning-extension (<< 0.5.1) [11:18] yup, it does [11:18] now I fix, build, test and push [11:32] asac: why some locales got Homepage: [11:32] empty? [11:33] is it normal? [11:35] he? [11:36] where do you see that? [11:37] inside description field [11:37] e.g [11:37] Hungarian menus and messages for lightning-extension. [11:37] . [11:37] Homepage: [11:39] asac: if it's normal, I push [11:39] it works nice [11:39] ;) === PatrickWeb [n=PatrickW@AMarseille-256-1-55-122.w90-4.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [11:43] asac: maybe there's no homepages for those [11:48] bluekuja: where do you see this problem= [11:48] ? [11:48] asac: lightning-extension-locale-pa-in [11:48] for example [11:48] asac: lightning-extension-locale-mn another [11:49] lightning-extension-locale-sl as well [11:53] bluekuja: i don't understand which homepage you mean === rexbron [n=rexbron@62.6.158.161] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [12:03] asac: in debian/control [12:03] asac: every locale got a description [12:03] asac: with an Homepage: [12:03] at the end [12:04] asac: http://paste.ubuntu.com/686/ [12:06] asac: what should I do? [12:06] leave them as they are [12:06] ? [12:21] bluekuja: looking [12:21] bluekuja: ah ... in package description? ... its safe to ignore ig uess [12:22] asac: so I leave it? [12:23] yes [12:26] ok [12:26] pushing [12:27] thanks [12:34] asac: there is a debian/scripts/template/control file as well [12:34] asac: with internet section [12:34] but I guess it doesnt matter [12:34] for the archive [12:34] bluekuja: yes ... fix that as well :) ... or remember to do that on next update [12:34] asac: pushed already [12:34] at best file a bug so its not forgotten [12:34] ok [12:34] asac: anyway it's not a problem [12:34] bluekuja: and tell mertiki ... he should probably maintain a bzr branch for it [12:35] yes [12:35] its ok [12:35] ok, gonna ping him [12:35] however next update would then break again ;) [12:35] ^^ [12:35] so better fix it now on some branch ... to not forget [12:35] yeah [12:35] bluekuja: feel free to open a mozillateam branch [12:35] ok [12:35] mertiki can then submit updates through his own branch which we can merge before upload [12:35] I push current files [12:35] going to eat now [12:35] brb [12:35] bluekuja: yes, please do ... but only debian/ dir of course [12:36] only debian dir? [12:36] ok [12:36] asac: darn [12:36] Component: universe Section: misc [12:36] it failed again [12:37] so fix it for real then ... please check with lintian before upload [12:39] talked with pitti [12:39] and got rejected [12:39] darn template [12:40] what got rejected? [12:40] I asked him to reject the upload [12:41] so I can fix the template as well [12:41] brb [12:42] ok [12:42] bluekuja: if you setup the bzr branch, please replay the few uploads we had [12:42] e.g. start with first upload debian/ dir [12:42] then second ... then third ;) [12:43] its a bit more work, but good to allow mertiki to review the changes :) [12:48] asac: yeah, every change a bzr revision [12:50] more or less ... for me its enough to have one revision per debian upload happened [12:50] but that should be equivalent in our case here ;) [12:51] asac; yeah [12:52] asac: changed section on the control template as well [12:52] now re-pushing [12:52] bluekuja: where do you put the branch to? [12:52] i th9ink there is a sunbird project? [12:52] let me see [12:52] https://edge.launchpad.net/sunbird [12:52] that exists [12:52] use that one to place the branch under [12:53] it should comprise the lightning extension because its more or less the same project for now [12:53] asac: I guess lightning extension exists as well [12:53] no [12:53] damn [12:53] ok, I'll use sunbird then [12:54] asac: anyway I'm pushing it [12:54] asac: sections are ok everywhere [12:54] both debian/control and template file [12:56] bluekuja: does lintian complain? [12:56] asac: nope [12:57] asac: it did not complain before too [12:57] strange [12:57] ok [12:57] linda? [12:57] maybe linda would have complained? [12:57] but i doubt it [12:57] nothing on linda for that [12:57] it's a template file [12:58] so it didnt recognize [12:58] the error [12:58] I'm waiting the mail [12:58] to see if the section is ok [01:01] asac: again misc [01:03] asac: installer moves it to misc without a reason [01:03] I'm talking with pitti to have it pushed on web with archive admin tools === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [01:04] asac_: again misc [01:05] pitti will move it to web manually then [01:08] bluekuja: why didn't you set web? ... is it really web? where is lightning in? [01:08]