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therethinkerWe need a mythtv bot01:56
therethinkerFor here...01:56
lagawhich'd what01:56
therethinkerBe like ubotu... except for mythtv related things01:56
lagayes01:56
lagawe have on in #mythtv-de01:56
lagait's in german, though01:56
therethinkerAh01:56
MitoTraninI've admind bots multiple times before01:56
MitoTraninvery easy to do01:57
therethinkerWant me to do it?01:57
MitoTraninI could set one up easily enough01:57
MitoTraninpossibly run it even from my hosting account so that it's always on01:57
therethinkerI could set one up01:57
therethinkerI could do it on my server so its always on01:57
therethinker:P01:57
therethinkerITS WAR!01:57
MitoTranin(as opposed to from my house, which *should* always be on, but you never know)01:57
MitoTraninlol01:57
MitoTranineggdrop? :)01:58
therethinker:P01:58
lagaeggdrop. what the cool kids use01:58
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mythbot*registering mythbot*01:59
lagait has that certain "m1rkforce! lulz" ring to it01:59
mythbotI agree01:59
mythbotDo the ! thing :D01:59
laga!boobies01:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about boobies - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:59
mythbotSorry, I don't know anything about boobies - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:00
ubotuNew bug: #150389 in mythbuntu "Static IP address not set during install" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/15038902:00
MitoTraninlol02:00
MitoTraninok, now you're just showing off :)02:00
mythbotCongrats MitoTranin:02:00
MitoTraninok... time to go share some sugar (aka pudding) with my kids before their bedtime02:01
MitoTraninI'll be back later after they're in bed02:01
foxbuntu!midget porno02:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about midget porno - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:05
foxbuntu!midget porno staring Laga02:06
Aval0n!seen midget.porn02:09
therethinker:P02:10
therethinker!that! Go die, or02:11
foxbuntu!midget.porn.staring.laga.the.great02:11
therethinker:P02:11
therethinkers/great/ugl02:11
therethinker*ugly02:12
therethinkerWhoo02:13
therethinkerubotu was written in python02:13
therethinkerthank god02:13
therethinkerAlthough, I'm going with Pynfo...02:17
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therethinkerI apologize in advanced the havoc mythbot may cause..02:27
therethinker*pushes button*02:28
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therethinkerHello mythbot02:30
=== pdragon ducks for cover
therethinkerMythbot2?02:30
therethinker.ping02:30
therethinker.wik MythTV02:31
mythbot2"MythTV is a Linux application which turns a computer with the necessary hardware into a digital video recorder, a digital multimedia home entertainment system, or Home Theater Personal Computer." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythTV02:31
therethinkerITS ALIVE!02:31
therethinkeralthough it keeps disconnect/reconnecting02:31
therethinker,t02:31
therethinker.t02:31
mythbot2Mon, 08 Oct 2007 00:31:45 GMT02:31
therethinker.t02:32
mythbot2Mon, 08 Oct 2007 00:32:26 GMT02:32
therethinker.swhack ducks02:32
therethinker.t02:32
mythbot2Mon, 08 Oct 2007 00:32:47 GMT02:32
therethinker.g mythbuntu02:32
therethinker.swhack ducks02:33
therethinkerIt keeps connecting, then getting discnnected02:33
therethinkerHmm... seems connected02:34
therethinker.swhack ducks02:34
therethinker.rate Mythtv02:35
therethinker.rate Mythtv02:36
therethinkerFound the problem02:37
therethinkerIts a daemon... I couldn't stop it with Ctrl+C02:37
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therethinkerOkay, hello mythbot2 :-)02:37
therethinker.rate Mythtv02:38
therethinkerBTW: Once you guys start talking, I'll stop playing with mythbot202:38
therethinker.wik Mythtv02:39
mythbot2"MythTV is a Linux application which turns a computer with the necessary hardware into a digital video recorder, a digital multimedia home entertainment system, or Home Theater Personal Computer." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mythtv02:39
therethinker.rate Mythtv02:39
therethinkerOkay, I'll get to work on the info module02:40
therethinkerhttp://inamidst.com/phenny/02:40
therethinkerplay around with it if you want02:40
therethinker#wik02:41
therethinker?wik02:42
therethinkerwik!?02:42
therethinkerstop me if I'm being annoying, guys02:42
therethinkerthat means stop me :P02:42
therethinkermythbot2 help me02:44
therethinkermythbot2: help?02:47
mythbot2Hi, I'm mythbot2 (a http://inamidst.com/phenny/)02:47
mythbot2Commands: acronym, beats, charinfo, codepoint, httphead, map, myersbriggs, podecoint, remind, representation, seen, swhackcount, swhackcount2007, swhackorigin, swhacktail, tavtime, thesaurus, time, title, tock, translate, validate, weather, wikipedia, wordlength2007, wordnet02:47
mythbot2Try "mythbot2: help command?" if stuck. My owner is therethinker.02:47
therethinkermytbot2 help?02:47
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therethinker! help?02:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about help? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:51
therethinkerOh, right02:51
therethinkerI'll need a different  command :P02:52
therethinkerWhadda want it to be?02:52
therethinker@02:52
therethinker@ help02:52
ubotu(help [<plugin>]  [<command>] ) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.02:52
therethinkerHmm... seems to be some secret command thing...02:52
therethinker$help02:52
therethinker$ help02:52
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therethinker@help?02:53
therethinker@: help?02:54
therethinkerwait, its $ :P02:54
therethinker$help?02:54
therethinker$: help?02:54
therethinker$ help?02:54
pdragonwoo... loving mythtv the more i play with it. figured out the whole auto-expire thing and how to only keep the last 2 episodes of a show but keep recording new ones02:57
therethinkermythbot2: help?02:58
pdragonjust need to figure out how to make a remote work and i'll make one for the parents :)02:58
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therethinkermythbot: help?03:01
therethinker@: help?03:01
therethinker@ help?03:01
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therethinkermythbot: help?03:02
mythbotHi, I'm mythbot (a http://inamidst.com/phenny/)03:02
mythbotCommands: acronym, beats, charinfo, codepoint, httphead, map, myersbriggs, podecoint, remind, representation, seen, swhackcount, swhackcount2007, swhackorigin, swhacktail, tavtime, thesaurus, time, title, tock, translate, validate, weather, wikipedia, wordlength2007, wordnet03:02
mythbotTry "mythbot: help command?" if stuck. My owner is therethinker.03:02
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therethinker: help?03:06
therethinker::help?03:06
therethinker:: help?03:06
therethinker: : help?03:06
tgm4883_laptophelp?03:09
tgm4883_laptop!help03:10
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots03:10
tgm4883_laptop:help03:10
tgm4883_laptoptherethinker: help03:10
therethinkerYeah03:10
therethinkerPenny is so confusing03:10
therethinkerOr whatever it is03:11
therethinkerPhenny03:11
tgm4883_laptopyay03:11
therethinkerIts python03:11
tgm4883_laptopthe therethinker bot rocks03:11
therethinker:P03:11
tgm4883_laptoptherethinker: foxbuntu03:11
therethinkerI am not a bot03:11
therethinkerFoxubuntu is a lazy slug03:11
tgm4883_laptopyes you are03:11
tgm4883_laptoptherethinker: superm103:11
tgm4883_laptopman this therethinker bot is slow03:12
therethinkerI would like to say something bad about superm1, but he is "da boss", as far as open-source hierarchies go03:12
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therethinkerOkay03:14
therethinker>: helo?03:14
therethinker>: help?03:14
therethinker : help?03:14
tgm4883_laptopmythbot: help03:14
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therethinkerDo you know python?03:15
tgm4883_laptopmythbot: help time03:15
therethinkerI thought I did03:15
tgm4883_laptopno03:15
therethinkera: help?03:15
tgm4883_laptopwait03:15
tgm4883_laptopmythbot: python03:15
therethinkerIts incredibly weird03:15
therethinkerlmao03:15
tgm4883_laptopnope03:15
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therethinkerNowww03:15
therethinkermythbot: help?03:15
mythbotHi, I'm mythbot (a http://inamidst.com/phenny/)03:15
mythbotCommands: acronym, beats, charinfo, codepoint, httphead, map, myersbriggs, podecoint, remind, representation, seen, swhackcount, swhackcount2007, swhackorigin, swhacktail, tavtime, thesaurus, time, title, tock, translate, validate, weather, wikipedia, wordlength2007, wordnet03:15
mythbotTry "mythbot: help command?" if stuck. My owner is therethinker.03:15
tgm4883_laptopmythbot: help beats03:16
mythbot'.beats - Returns the current internet time'03:16
tgm4883_laptopnice03:16
therethinkerYeah03:16
tgm4883_laptop: help03:16
therethinkerI'm trying to work on the help module03:16
tgm4883_laptopnothing03:16
therethinkerbut I'm WTF'ing03:16
tgm4883_laptopmythbot: help03:16
mythbotHi, I'm mythbot (a http://inamidst.com/phenny/)03:16
mythbotCommands: acronym, beats, charinfo, codepoint, httphead, map, myersbriggs, podecoint, remind, representation, seen, swhackcount, swhackcount2007, swhackorigin, swhacktail, tavtime, thesaurus, time, title, tock, translate, validate, weather, wikipedia, wordlength2007, wordnet03:16
mythbotTry "mythbot: help command?" if stuck. My owner is therethinker.03:16
therethinkerYeah, it will only help on "mythbot:", which is a PITA03:16
tgm4883_laptop:help03:16
therethinkeras opposed to !03:16
therethinkernope, it looks for "mythbot: "03:16
tgm4883_laptopyea you dont want !03:16
therethinkerWell, I'm trying to either do :, or $03:17
tgm4883_laptopmythbot: myersbriggs03:17
tgm4883_laptopmythbot: help myersbriggs03:17
mythbot'.myersbriggs - Find your Myers-Briggs Type.'03:17
tgm4883_laptopi broke it03:17
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therethinkernow I get some debug info..03:18
therethinkermythbot: help?03:18
mythbotHi, I'm mythbot (a http://inamidst.com/phenny/)03:18
tgm4883_laptopmythbot: help myersbriggs03:18
mythbotCommands: acronym, beats, charinfo, codepoint, httphead, map, myersbriggs, podecoint, remind, representation, seen, swhackcount, swhackcount2007, swhackorigin, swhacktail, tavtime, thesaurus, time, title, tock, translate, validate, weather, wikipedia, wordlength2007, wordnet03:18
mythbotTry "mythbot: help command?" if stuck. My owner is therethinker.03:18
mythbot'.myersbriggs - Find your Myers-Briggs Type.'03:18
therethinkerWow...03:18
therethinkerthat's suprisingly... simple :P03:18
tgm4883_laptopmythbot: myersbriggs03:18
tgm4883_laptophmm03:19
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therethinkerokay03:19
therethinker: help?03:19
tgm4883_laptopmythbot: myersbriggs03:19
therethinkeryeah03:19
therethinkerI removed the mythbot03:19
therethinkerBut I think I figured it out03:19
tgm4883_laptoptherethinker: myersbriggs03:19
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therethinker$ help?03:19
therethinker: help?03:20
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therethinker: help?03:20
therethinker:: help?03:20
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therethinker: help?03:21
mythbotAttributeError: 'bool' object has no attribute 'group' (file "/home/zach/phenny/modules/help.py", line 21, in f_help)03:21
therethinkerWhoo :D03:21
therethinker$ help?03:21
therethinker:03:21
mythbotAttributeError: 'bool' object has no attribute 'group' (file "/home/zach/phenny/modules/help.py", line 21, in f_help)03:21
tgm4883_laptopbut will it03:22
tgm4883_laptopwill it pick up mid sentance $ help? like if I did it there03:22
tgm4883_laptopguess not03:22
therethinkerNope03:22
therethinkerand its : as of now03:22
therethinkerAlthough I figured it out a bit more03:22
tgm4883_laptopwill it pick up mid sentance : help? like if I did it there03:22
therethinkernope03:22
therethinkerIt does a startswith thing03:22
tgm4883_laptopah03:23
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therethinkerKeyword: $03:23
therethinker$ help?03:23
mythbotNameError: global name 'true' is not defined (file "/home/zach/phenny/modules/help.py", line 20, in f_help)03:23
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therethinkerforogt python uses True, not true03:24
therethinker$ g?03:24
mythbotAttributeError: 'bool' object has no attribute 'group' (file "/home/zach/phenny/modules/help.py", line 9, in f_chelp)03:24
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therethinkerlet me get some more data...03:25
therethinkermythbot: help?03:25
mythbotHi, I'm mythbot (a http://inamidst.com/phenny/)03:25
mythbotCommands: acronym, beats, charinfo, codepoint, httphead, map, myersbriggs, podecoint, remind, representation, seen, swhackcount, swhackcount2007, swhackorigin, swhacktail, tavtime, thesaurus, time, title, tock, translate, validate, weather, wikipedia, wordlength2007, wordnet03:25
mythbotTry "mythbot: help command?" if stuck. My owner is therethinker.03:25
therethinkermythbot: help g?03:25
mythbotSorry, no documentation for g.03:25
therethinkerAH HAH!03:25
=== therethinker feels smart
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therethinker$ g?03:27
mythbotSorry, no documentation for $ g.03:27
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therethinker$g03:28
mythbotSorry, no documentation for g.03:28
therethinkerThat's good :D03:28
therethinkerWhat should I add03:33
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therethinkerWatch this03:34
therethinker$laga03:34
mythbot'laga is a programmer for Mythtv. His email is laga@laga.ath.cx'03:34
therethinker:D03:34
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therethinker$laga03:35
mythbotlaga is a programmer for Mythtv. His email is laga@laga.ath.cx03:35
therethinker(killed the 's)03:35
pdragon$therethinker03:36
mythbotSorry, no documentation for therethinker.03:36
therethinkerI'm working on it :P03:36
pdragonhehe03:37
tgm4883_laptoptherethinker, are you sure people want there emails this easily accessable?03:37
therethinkerDon't worry :P03:37
therethinkerI put that in as a joke03:37
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therethinkerThere03:38
therethinkerthere are 3 entries03:38
therethinkerfigure them out :P03:38
pdragon$superm103:38
tgm4883_laptop$smack pdragon03:38
therethinker:P03:38
tgm4883_laptop$random03:38
tgm4883_laptop$whack pdragon03:38
pdragon /me feels the love03:38
pdragongah03:38
=== pdragon feels the love
tgm4883_laptop$hug pdragon03:39
tgm4883_laptop$therethinker03:39
tgm4883_laptop$help03:39
tgm4883_laptop$mythbot03:39
tgm4883_laptop$mythtv03:39
therethinker$therethinker should have worked03:39
tgm4883_laptop$mythbuntu03:39
therethinker$mcc03:39
tgm4883_laptopI broke it again03:39
therethinker$laga03:39
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therethinker$mcc03:40
therethinkerI broked it again03:40
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therethinker$mcc03:40
therethinker$ help?03:40
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therethinker$mcc03:41
therethinkerhuh03:41
therethinkerthat's odd..03:41
therethinkerits.. not getting anything03:41
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therethinker$mcc03:42
therethinkerahh03:42
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therethinker$hello03:44
mythbotNameError: global name 'docs' is not defined (file "/home/zach/phenny/modules/help.py", line 9, in f_chelp)03:44
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therethinker$mcc03:45
therethinkerOh, wow03:45
therethinkerI forgot commas03:45
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therethinkerYay03:45
therethinkerIt should be happy now03:45
therethinker$mcc03:45
mythbotmythbuntu-control-centre, or mcc, is a application designed to make setting up MythTv simpler03:45
therethinker.wik MythTv03:46
mythbotCan't find anything in Wikipedia for "MythTv".03:46
therethinker.wik Google03:46
pdragon$tgm488303:46
mythbotSorry, no documentation for tgm4883.03:46
mythbot"Google Inc. (NASDAQ: GOOG and LSE: GGEA) is an American public corporation, specializing in Internet search and online advertising." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google03:46
therethinker.wik MythTV03:46
mythbot"MythTV is a Linux application which turns a computer with the necessary hardware into a digital video recorder, a digital multimedia home entertainment system, or Home Theater Personal Computer." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythTV03:46
pdragon$boobies03:46
mythbotSorry, no documentation for boobies.03:46
pdragondamn03:46
therethinker:D03:47
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therethinkerNow that trick works nicer03:47
therethinker$anything03:47
mythbotTypeError: not enough arguments for format string (file "/home/zach/phenny/modules/help.py", line 16, in f_chelp)03:47
therethinkerOh crap. brb03:47
pdragonhehe03:48
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therethinker$anything03:48
mythbotSorry, I don't know anything about anything. Try .wik anything     to search Wikipedia, or .g anything to search Google.03:48
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therethinker$anything03:48
mythbotSorry, I don't know anything about anything. Try .wik anything  to search Wikipedia, or .g anything to search Google.03:48
therethinkerthe spacing issue :-)03:49
therethinker$therethinker03:49
mythbottherethinker is the programmer who created me. He mainly works on mcc.03:49
therethinkerfind the other 203:49
therethinkerYou have 5 guesses :P03:49
pdragon$superm103:50
mythbotsuperm1 is the programmer who is in charge of Mythbuntu.03:50
therethinkerGood'n03:50
pdragonhmm03:50
pdragon$mythbuntu03:50
mythbotSorry, I don't know anything about mythbuntu. Try .wik mythbuntu  to search Wikipedia, or .g mythbuntu to search Google.03:50
therethinkerpdragon will never get it03:50
pdragonsome myth bot :p03:50
therethinker:P03:50
pdragon$pdragon03:50
mythbotSorry, I don't know anything about pdragon. Try .wik pdragon  to search Wikipedia, or .g pdragon to search Google.03:50
therethinker2 let03:50
therethinker*left03:50
pdragon$tgm488303:51
mythbotSorry, I don't know anything about tgm4883. Try .wik tgm4883  to search Wikipedia, or .g tgm4883 to search Google.03:51
therethinkerHe's a decent bot... I guess03:51
pdragon$ubotu03:51
mythbotSorry, I don't know anything about ubotu. Try .wik ubotu  to search Wikipedia, or .g ubotu to search Google.03:51
therethinkerHa, you lost03:51
pdragonboo03:51
therethinker$whack pdragon03:51
mythbot/me whacks pdragon!03:51
pdragonneed to fix that03:51
therethinker:P03:51
therethinkerI like it03:51
therethinkerIts an easter egg of sorts :P03:52
tgm4883_laptopit should say something like03:52
tgm4883_laptoptgm4883 whacks pdragon with a big stinky fish03:53
therethinkerActually03:53
tgm4883_laptoprandom stuff like that03:53
therethinkerthat's what I'm working on :P03:53
therethinkerexcept not-so-random :P03:53
tgm4883_laptopor03:53
tgm4883_laptop$runover therethinker03:53
mythbotSorry, I don't know anything about runover therethinker. Try .wik runover therethinker  to search Wikipedia, or .g runover therethinker to search Google.03:53
tgm4883_laptop$naked women03:53
mythbotSorry, I don't know anything about naked women. Try .wik naked women  to search Wikipedia, or .g naked women to search Google.03:53
tgm4883_laptoppoor mythbot03:53
pdragonthat's a shame03:54
tgm4883_laptopis there a $learn function?03:54
tgm4883_laptop$.g mythbuntu03:54
mythbotSorry, I don't know anything about .g mythbuntu. Try .wik .g mythbuntu  to search Wikipedia, or .g .g mythbuntu to search Google.03:54
tgm4883_laptop.g mythbuntu03:54
therethinkerI should teach it that though03:54
tgm4883_laptop$g mythbuntu03:54
mythbotSorry, I don't know anything about g mythbuntu. Try .wik g mythbuntu  to search Wikipedia, or .g g mythbuntu to search Google.03:55
therethinker.wik mythbuntu03:55
mythbot"Mythbuntu is a specialized Linux distribution based on Ubuntu and MythTV 0.20-2." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mythbuntu03:55
=== Dr_willis is using that now. :)
tgm4883_laptopapparently .g doesn't work03:55
therethinkerYeah03:55
therethinker:P03:55
therethinkerIt should though03:55
therethinkerApparently, .g isn't impletemented03:56
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therethinkerlets try this03:57
therethinker$whack mythbot03:57
mythbotKeyError: 'whack mythbot' (file "/home/zach/phenny/modules/help.py", line 18, in f_chelp)03:57
therethinkerArgh03:57
therethinker$mcc03:57
mythbotmythbuntu-control-centre, or mcc, is a application designed to make setting up MythTV simpler03:57
therethinkerHey03:57
=== Dr_willis waits for the bot to coredump to the channel.
therethinkerdoes someone want to write some stuff up?03:58
therethinker:P03:58
therethinkerThe format is...03:58
therethinker'superm1' : 'superm1 is the programmer who is in charge of Mythbuntu.' , \03:58
therethinkerif you start with 8 spaces, I'll appreciate it ;-)03:58
Dr_willisHmm03:59
Dr_willis'elvis' : '         Elvis is the King! Last seen in #McDonalds'04:00
Dr_willisLike that?04:00
therethinkerNo04:00
therethinkerlike04:00
therethinker        'elvis' : 'Elvis is the King! Last seen in #McDonalds',\04:00
Dr_willis'BillGates' : 'Bill Gates, also known as Gateutus of Borg, wanted for FUD spreading and Confusing the definition of Opensource.'.\'04:02
Dr_willisdoh... irc client wont let me do it.04:02
therethinker$slap Dr_willis04:02
mythbotKeyError: 'slap Dr_willis' (file "/home/zach/phenny/modules/help.py", line 18, in f_chelp)04:02
Dr_willis        'BillGates' : 'Bill Gates, also known as Gateutus of Borg, wanted for FUD spreading and Confusing the definition of Opensource.'.\'04:02
therethinkerIts fine04:02
Dr_willisThere it went :)04:02
therethinkerYOu can use spaces ;-)04:02
therethinkerNotes04:02
therethinkerits a comma at the end04:03
Dr_willis        'BillGates' : 'Bill Gates, also known as Gateutus of Borg, wanted for FUD spreading and Confusing the definition of Opensource.',\'04:03
tgm4883_laptop        'foxbuntu; : 'foxbuntu is a mythbuntu dev, he is leet, although not as leet as tgm4883.',\04:03
therethinkeryeah, and don't end with a '04:03
therethinkerlike tgms!04:03
Dr_willis        'BillGates' : 'Bill Gates, also known as Gateutus of Borg, wanted for FUD spreading and Confusing the definition of Opensource.',\04:03
tgm4883_laptoptherethinker, does it auto learn?04:03
Dr_willis        'engrish' : 'Engrish is a funny web site. http://engrish.com',\04:04
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tgm4883_laptop        'laga' : 'laga is from the other side of the ocean.  Therefor, it is probably best to not listen to him.',\04:05
therethinker$slap mythbuntu04:05
mythbotKeyError: 'slap mythbuntu' (file "/home/zach/phenny/modules/help.py", line 20, in f_chelp)04:05
pdragonhaha04:05
therethinkeroh well04:05
therethinkerI'll figure that out one day04:05
tgm4883_laptopso is it learning this things?04:05
therethinker$bill gates04:05
mythbotBill Gates, also known as Gateutus of Borg, wanted for FUD spreading and Confusing the definition of Opensource.04:05
therethinkerNope04:05
therethinkerI'm inputting them by hand :P04:05
tgm4883_laptopah04:06
tgm4883_laptop$foxbuntu04:06
mythbotfoxbuntu is a mythbuntu dev, he is leet, although not as leet as tgm4883.04:06
therethinkerActually, I don't ned the 8 spaces04:06
tgm4883_laptopsweet04:06
tgm4883_laptop$help04:06
mythbotSorry, I don't know anything about help. Try '.wik help'to search Wikipedia.04:06
tgm4883_laptop$help?04:06
mythbotSorry, I don't know anything about help. Try '.wik help'to search Wikipedia.04:06
tgm4883_laptopno help command anymore?04:06
therethinkerNo..04:06
tgm4883_laptopwhat bot is it again?04:07
Dr_willis$elvis04:07
mythbotSorry, I don't know anything about elvis. Try '.wik elvis'to search Wikipedia.04:07
therethinkerIts phenny04:07
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therethinkerOkay04:07
therethinker$help04:07
mythbotHi, I'm mythbot (a http://inamidst.com/phenny/)04:07
mythbotCommands: acronym, beats, charinfo, codepoint, httphead, map, myersbriggs, podecoint, remind, representation, seen, swhackcount, swhackcount2007, swhackorigin, swhacktail, tavtime, thesaurus, time, title, tock, translate, validate, weather, wikipedia, wordlength2007, wordnet04:07
mythbotTry "mythbot: help command?" if stuck. My owner is therethinker.04:08
therethinker$whack pdragon04:08
mythbot/me whacks pdragon!04:08
therethinker$foxbuntu04:08
mythbotfoxbuntu is a mythbuntu dev, he is leet, although not as leet as tgm4883.04:08
tgm4883_laptopsweet04:08
therethinker$engrish04:08
mythbotEngrish is a funny web site. http://engrish.com04:08
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therethinkerLets try04:09
therethinker$slap-mythbot04:10
Dr_willis$billgates04:10
therethinkerIts $billgates04:10
therethinkerI think its borked04:10
MitoTraninstill playing with the bot I see?04:10
therethinkerYes04:10
therethinkerVery fun :D04:10
tgm4883_laptop$mythbot tell therethinker foxbuntu04:10
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therethinker$mythbot tell therethinker foxbuntu04:11
mythbotSorry, I don't know anything about mythbot tell therethinker foxbuntu. Try '.wik mythbot tell therethinker foxbuntu'to search Wikipedia.04:11
therethinkermythbot: tell therethinker foxbuntu04:11
mythbotYou can tell yourself that.04:11
therethinkerSee?04:11
tgm4883_laptopah04:11
therethinkermythbot: tell MythbuntuGuest06 Hallow!04:11
mythbottherethinker: I'll pass that on when mythbuntuguest06 is around.04:11
tgm4883_laptopmythbot: tell therethinker foxbuntu04:11
mythbottgm4883_laptop: I'll pass that on when therethinker is around.04:11
therethinkerThat's odd...04:12
mythbottherethinker: 02:11Z <tgm4883_laptop> tell therethinker foxbuntu04:12
therethinkerOh :-D04:12
MitoTranin.g mythbuntu04:12
tgm4883_laptop$whack mythbot04:12
mythbotKeyError: 'whack mythbot' (file "/home/zach/phenny/modules/help.py", line 21, in f_chelp)04:12
therethinker.g doesn't work04:12
therethinkerAnd whack doesn't either04:12
MitoTranin.wik mythbuntu04:12
mythbot"Mythbuntu is a specialized Linux distribution based on Ubuntu and MythTV 0.20-2." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mythbuntu04:12
MitoTranin$slap therethinker04:12
mythbotKeyError: 'slap therethinker' (file "/home/zach/phenny/modules/help.py", line 21, in f_chelp)04:12
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therethinker$slap therethinker04:13
mythbotKeyError: 'slap therethinker' (file "/home/zach/phenny/modules/help.py", line 21, in f_chelp)04:13
therethinkerstill no04:13
MitoTraninyou do realize that it is quite slow... right?04:13
therethinkerIts on my computer04:13
therethinkerwhen I'm done04:13
therethinkerI'll move it to my server04:13
MitoTranin.....04:13
therethinker... what?04:13
MitoTraninwouldn't it be better to start it out on the server, so once it's done... it's actually.... done?04:14
therethinkerWell, its not hard :P04:14
therethinkerits just quicker for me to restart it/save04:14
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therethinker$whack MitoTranin04:14
mythbotKeyError: 'whack MitoTranin' (file "/home/zach/phenny/modules/help.py", line 21, in f_chelp)04:14
MitoTranintherethinker: see pm04:15
therethinker$help04:15
mythbotHi, I'm mythbot (a http://inamidst.com/phenny/)04:15
mythbotCommands: acronym, beats, charinfo, codepoint, httphead, map, myersbriggs, podecoint, remind, representation, seen, swhackcount, swhackcount2007, swhackorigin, swhacktail, tavtime, thesaurus, time, title, tock, translate, validate, weather, wikipedia, wordlength2007, wordnet04:15
mythbotTry "mythbot: help command?" if stuck. My owner is therethinker.04:15
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therethinker$whack MitoTranin04:16
mythbotKeyError: 'whack MitoTranin' (file "/home/zach/phenny/modules/help.py", line 21, in f_chelp)04:16
therethinkeraction_msg = "/me" + action[command]  + command.split(" ")[1] 04:17
therethinkerwhat's wrong with that?04:17
MitoTraninno space after /me04:17
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MitoTraninso it ends up as /mecommand04:17
therethinker$whack MitoTranin04:17
mythbotKeyError: 'whack MitoTranin' (file "/home/zach/phenny/modules/help.py", line 21, in f_chelp)04:17
therethinkerStill no04:17
therethinkeraction_msg = "/me " + action[command]  + command.split(" ")[1] 04:17
therethinkerOR04:17
therethinker*OH04:17
therethinkerI feel dumb04:18
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therethinker$whack MitoTranin04:18
mythbot/me whacks MitoTranin04:18
therethinker$runover MitoTranin04:19
mythbot/me takes wireless control of MitoTranin's car, and runs him over04:19
MitoTraninouch!04:19
therethinkerThey'res 1 more action04:19
therethinker$slap04:21
mythbotIndexError: list index out of range (file "/home/zach/phenny/modules/help.py", line 21, in f_chelp)04:21
therethinkerHah... guess it doesn't work :P04:21
therethinker$slap Me04:21
mythbot/me slaps Me04:21
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therethinker$slap04:22
mythbotSorry, I don't know anything about slap. Try '.wik slap'to search Wikipedia.04:22
therethinker$slap me04:22
mythbot/me slaps me04:22
pdragon$slap mythbot04:23
mythbot/me slaps mythbot04:23
therethinkerThat's going to be a fun function :P04:23
therethinkerShooting?04:23
therethinkerObscene things?04:24
therethinker$$04:24
mythbotSorry, I don't know anything about $. Try '.wik $'to search Wikipedia.04:24
pdragonwhoa... lotsa updates since beta release day04:25
therethinkerReally?04:25
therethinkerTo what?04:25
MitoTraninthere are 114mb of updates on a fresh beta build04:26
MitoTraninmainly the ubuntu base04:26
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MitoTraninbut also the basic myth packages have a handful too04:26
pdragonhttp://pastebin.com/m77746cdd04:27
therethinkerWait, there's pastebin.com!/04:27
MitoTranin!pastebin04:28
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:28
therethinkerI've always used paste.ubuntu-nl.org04:28
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therethinkerWhat should I say about MythTV?04:28
therethinker!MythTv04:29
ubotuMythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV04:29
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therethinker$pastebin04:30
mythbotpastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste!)04:30
therethinkerubotu04:31
therethinker!ubotu04:31
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots04:31
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therethinkerWatch this04:32
therethinker$ubuntu04:32
mythbotSorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu. If ubotu doesn't know, try '.wik ubuntu' to search Wikipedia.04:32
mythbot!ubuntu04:32
ubotuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com04:32
therethinkerEh? eh!?04:32
tgm4883_laptop$naked women04:33
mythbotSorry, I don't know anything about naked women. If ubotu doesn't know, try '.wik naked women' to search Wikipedia.04:33
mythbot!naked women04:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about naked women - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:33
tgm4883_laptoppoor bots04:33
therethinker:P04:33
therethinkerDo you like that though?04:33
therethinkerHey, try .wik naked women!04:33
therethinkerIt told you to!04:34
therethinkerI wonder...04:34
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therethinker$cheese04:34
mythbotSorry, I don't know anything about cheese. If ubotu doesn't know, try '.wik cheese' to search Wikipedia.04:34
mythbot!cheese04:34
mythbot.wikcheese04:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cheese - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:34
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therethinker$cheese04:34
mythbotSorry, I don't know anything about cheese. If ubotu doesn't know, try '.wik cheese' to search Wikipedia.04:34
mythbot!cheese04:34
mythbot.wikcheese04:34
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therethinkerhitting save helps :P04:34
therethinker$cheese04:34
mythbotSorry, I don't know anything about cheese. If ubotu doesn't know, try '.wik cheese' to search Wikipedia.04:34
mythbot!cheese04:34
mythbot.wik cheese04:34
therethinker!cheese04:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cheese - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:35
therethinkerHmm04:35
therethinkerI guess the .wik thing won't work... but maybe I can do it...04:35
pdragonbrb. rebooting after updates04:36
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therethinker$cheese04:36
mythbotSorry, I don't know anything about cheese. If ubotu doesn't know, try '.wik cheese' to search Wikipedia.04:36
mythbot!cheese04:36
mythbotNameError: global name 'f_wikipedia' is not defined (file "/home/zach/phenny/modules/help.py", line 31, in f_chelp)04:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cheese - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:36
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therethinker$cheese04:37
mythbotSorry, I don't know anything about cheese. If ubotu doesn't know, try '.wik cheese' to search Wikipedia.04:37
mythbot!cheese04:37
mythbotNameError: global name 'f_wikipedia' is not defined (file "/home/zach/phenny/modules/help.py", line 32, in f_chelp)04:37
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therethinker$cheese04:37
mythbotSorry, I don't know anything about cheese. If ubotu doesn't know, try '.wik cheese' to search Wikipedia.04:37
mythbot!cheese04:37
mythbotAttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'group' (file "/home/zach/phenny/modules/wikipedia.py", line 115, in f_wikipedia)04:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cheese - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:37
tgm4883_laptopsuperm1 ping04:37
tgm4883_laptoptherethinker, i don't mean to be bossy, but can the testing happen in another channel.  This is some serious flooding04:38
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therethinkerYep04:38
therethinkerSure04:38
tgm4883_laptopthanks04:38
therethinkerThanks for letting me know : P04:38
tgm4883_laptopjust in case someone comes along needing help04:38
therethinkerYep04:38
therethinker#mythbot-test04:39
therethinkerDo you mind the left/join messages?04:39
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therethinkerThose04:39
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therethinkerI know04:40
therethinkerLet me stick 'er on my server... and I'll continute deving04:41
tgm4883_laptoptherethinker, you could always join #therethinker04:42
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therethinkerThat's the last time ;-)04:44
mythbotIOError: [Errno 13]  Permission denied: '/var/nas/phenny/data/reminders.db' (file "/var/nas/phenny/modules/tell.py", line 93, in dumpReminders)04:44
therethinkerArgh04:44
mythbotIOError: [Errno 13]  Permission denied: '/var/nas/phenny/data/reminders.db' (file "/var/nas/phenny/modules/tell.py", line 93, in dumpReminders)04:44
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therethinkerLast time -- REALLY] 04:44
mythbotIOError: [Errno 13]  Permission denied: '/var/nas/phenny/data/reminders.db' (file "/var/nas/phenny/modules/tell.py", line 93, in dumpReminders)04:44
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therethinkerReally really really last time...04:45
therethinkerGood :P04:45
therethinkerOkay04:45
therethinkerSorry everyone :(04:45
therethinkerSo, MCC :P04:46
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pdragon2 kernel updates. that was fun04:47
MitoTranintgm4883, tgm4883_laptop: were you here earlier when I was troubleshooting problems connecting my remote front/backend?04:48
tgm4883_laptopnope04:48
MitoTraninwell, I can't get anything to connect to my backend other than the frontend on the same machine04:49
pdragonhmm... whatever was in those last updates seems to have fixed the multiplying network icons04:49
MitoTraninmythweb on the same machine even says that the backend isn't running04:49
pdragoni'm not getting any new ones but now i'm stuck with 404:49
MitoTraninso then I tried to fix the remote connections by disabling/enabling the mysql service as suggested04:50
MitoTraninbut when it said to remove it, it said that it was going to remove the "mysql-server service"04:50
=== mode/#ubuntu-mythtv [+o superm1] by ChanServ
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MitoTraninwell, I didn't do it for a while, but then decided that doing so won't delete my database, just stop it from working... so I did...04:50
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MitoTraninbut as soon as it was disabled, the option to enable it was then disabled (as in greyed out!)04:51
tgm4883_laptopheh04:51
superm1what you need tgm4883_laptop ?04:51
MitoTraninheh, superm1...04:51
=== tgm4883_laptop tries to remember
MitoTraninyou just banned therethinker04:52
superm1i did?04:52
tgm4883_laptophis bot04:52
MitoTraninmythbot was running from his home machine04:52
superm1just the bot that was in here.  i didn't look whose it was.04:52
troy_ssuperm1: So any thoughts -- I have been twiddling with the 1960 table top wallpaper (minor tone adjustments etc.) and bits like that... working towards a usplash etc.04:52
MitoTraninyou banned that address, which banned him...04:52
superm1well let me see.04:52
troy_ssuperm1: You are +1 on the table top correct?04:52
tgm4883_laptopwell he's still in here04:52
superm1he's still in here?04:52
tgm4883_laptoptherethinker is04:52
tgm4883_laptopnot the bot04:52
MitoTraninyeah, but that doesn't mean anything...04:52
superm1troy_s, i sent you a mail04:52
MitoTraninhe's banned, but not kick-banned04:53
MitoTraninonce he leaves he won't be able to come back in04:53
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troy_ssuperm1: Yes... I just wanted to be clear that the tabletop idea (the general direction I was going in for wallpaper from the get go) was in agreement with you?04:53
superm1therethinker, you should be able to say things again04:53
troy_sfoxbuntu I believe was in agreement on it.  He wanted to twiddle with it as his working desktop wallpaper and take it for a trial run.04:53
therethinkeryay :D04:53
therethinkerI was like "hello!?! " :P04:53
superm1therethinker, no bots other than ubotu and ubuntulog ok?04:54
therethinkerk04:54
therethinkerWe were doing a bot that'd be knowledgable on mythtv04:54
superm1well i saw bot spam all over my backtrace04:54
therethinkerlike ubotu... but on mythtv04:54
troy_ssuperm1: Anyways, if you are +1 -- I'll double check with foxbuntu and carry along.04:54
therethinkerYeah ... sorry >_>04:54
superm1okay troy_s yeah04:54
troy_ssuperm1: The usplash is going to be quite hilarious.04:54
superm1therethinker, if you've got a productive bot that won't be spamming like that was we can talk04:55
troy_ssuperm1: I have the goofiest pic of sabdfl for one of the channel flips.04:55
superm1troy_s, well you have to make sure he would be cool with you including that before you would04:55
troy_ssuperm1: Bah.  It is all in good fun and I think it is an excellent easter egg for those who know what he looks like.04:56
therethinkersuperm1: Yes, I  was doing testing in here, which I shouldn't have done04:56
superm1well the last thing i want is sabdfl unhappy with this project04:56
troy_ssuperm1: By the time it is in there, it is balooned out ala tv screen anyways.04:56
troy_slol04:56
troy_ssuperm1: He won't be.  I am quite certain he will find it quite cute.04:56
therethinkerWho's sabdfl?04:56
superm1troy_s, we'll talk after i see it04:57
superm1tgm4883_laptop, do you know what you needed?04:57
superm1if not i have other items to attend to yet tonight.04:57
tgm4883_laptopheh, no idea, i'll have to remember and get back to you tomarrow.  It must not have been that important04:57
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superm1okay anyone else need anything quick?04:58
superm1therethinker, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Shuttleworth04:58
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therethinkerOoh04:58
=== therethinker has head through legs
pdragonheh... i never knew that acronym for him either04:59
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=== therethinker unleashes the bot again!
=== therethinker was just kidding :P
pdragonif I change the recording folder location in the backend and move all my recordings to the new folder, will everything still work ok?05:01
MitoTraninpdragon: uh... I think so?...05:02
Dr_willis:)05:02
tgm4883_laptopyes it should05:02
pdragonthat was my thought too... was hoping for a more... concrete answer :)05:02
pdragonk05:03
tgm4883_laptoppdragon, look at it this way.  I moved all my recordings to a new hard drive and they still work05:03
pdragonjust changed the folder and all worked ok?05:03
tgm4883_laptopalthough it was the same dir05:03
pdragonahh05:03
tgm4883_laptopit was more a backup and reinstall05:03
pdragonwell, i'm watching the last of stuff i recorded this week now, so if it doesn't work no biggie05:04
tgm4883_laptopworst thing that happens, is that you don't retain program details05:04
tgm4883_laptopie title, etc05:04
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therethinker!lirc05:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lirc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:05
tgm4883_laptop!guide05:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about guide - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:05
therethinker(I'm now using that link)05:05
tgm4883_laptop!guides05:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about guides - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:05
tgm4883_laptopah05:05
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therethinker!codecs05:07
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:07
therethinkerI couldn't get the full links on the site05:07
MitoTranintgm4883_laptop:  speaking of backup/reinstall...  https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+spec/backup-restore05:07
tgm4883_laptopyea05:08
tgm4883_laptoplooks good05:08
tgm4883_laptopyou still would lose your recordings though05:09
therethinkerHey, everytime that you guys encounter a term that you'd like in mythbot's KB -- just throw a && around. I'll catch it in the logs later, and add it. If you want something, send me a message05:09
MitoTranintgm4883_laptop: not if you're like me, and keep your recordings stored on a network storage with raid05:10
tgm4883_laptoptrue05:10
MitoTraninbut even if you didn't keep the recordings off-box... restoring all settings etc like that would be a ton better than loosing everything05:11
tgm4883_laptopyep05:11
tgm4883_laptopmost important thing to back up is the database05:11
MitoTraninthe only problem you'd have is that some episodes that you had recorded but hadn't seen yet would still be marked as recorded05:11
tgm4883_laptopwhich already auto backs up05:11
MitoTraninbut where?  I don't see anything about that...05:12
MitoTraninwhich means it would back it up to another place on the same drive05:12
MitoTraninwhich means it's no good in a drive failure05:12
MitoTraninand only partially good in a system failure05:12
tgm4883_laptopit does, but thats easily fixed with either changing where it backs up, or mounting an nfs or something (or mouning a usb key there)05:12
MitoTranin(in a system failure you still have to go through a whole reinstall and resetup before you can do a restore)05:13
MitoTranintgm4883_laptop: change of subject for a sec... I'm having problems with my mysql service... I disabled it and now I can't re-enable it...05:14
MitoTraninany suggestions?05:14
tgm4883_laptoperror messages?05:14
tgm4883_laptophow did you disable05:14
MitoTraninnone...05:14
tgm4883_laptophmm05:15
tgm4883_laptophow are you trying to restart it?05:15
MitoTraninI disabled it via mcc while troubleshooting not being able to connect remote back/frontends or even the local mythweb05:15
MitoTraninso I disabled it, and then when that was done, it actually disabled (as in greyed out) the control option for the item05:15
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MitoTranin my first thought was that I had to restart before I could re-enable it05:16
MitoTraninbut then I restarted, and it's still disabled05:16
MitoTraninwb foxbuntu05:16
tgm4883_laptopwhere in mcc did you disable it?05:16
MitoTraninMCC > System Services >MySQL Service05:17
foxbuntuevening MitoTranin05:17
tgm4883_laptopah05:17
MitoTraninfoxbuntu: I disabled that service... and now can't get it back!05:17
MitoTraninlol05:17
tgm4883_laptophave you tried something like /etc/init.d/mysqld start05:17
foxbuntuMitoTranin, tats plain no good05:17
MitoTranintgm4883_laptop: doesn't help05:18
MitoTraninBUT, it is still there, which is good...05:18
tgm4883_laptopwhats the response?05:18
MitoTraninnothing05:18
MitoTraninsays it starts the database05:19
MitoTraninbut then when I closed and re-opened the mcc nothing had changed05:19
MitoTraninI also just now installed the weekly updates05:19
MitoTraninno change05:19
tgm4883_laptopbut can mythweb and the frontend connect?05:19
tgm4883_laptopthis is on weekly updates?05:19
MitoTraninnope05:19
MitoTraninno05:19
MitoTraninwell05:19
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pdragonmoving to a new folder worked perfect :)05:20
MitoTraninit was fully updated via the update manager05:20
MitoTraninand about 10 minutes ago, it told me it had new updates05:20
pdragonkept all the program info too05:20
MitoTraninmany of which were mythbuntu updates05:20
MitoTraninthe problem started well before05:20
MitoTraninso I figured "how much more could it hurt?"05:20
MitoTraninso I installed the updates...05:21
MitoTraninstill no good05:21
tgm4883_laptopare you running trunk?05:21
MitoTraninno05:21
tgm4883_laptophmm05:21
MitoTraninfresh install as of yesterday05:21
tgm4883_laptopi'm not too sure of the issue05:21
MitoTraninupdated with nothing other than the standard update manager05:21
tgm4883_laptopis the backend log telling you anything05:22
foxbuntusuperm1, you around?05:22
MitoTranin... where is it so I can check?  :)05:22
superm1foxbuntu, i'm really really busy.  is it urgent?05:22
tgm4883_laptop/var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log i think05:22
foxbuntusuperm1, prob not...but your expertise is prob required05:22
foxbuntuanyone wit expertise to debug python..05:24
superm1okay its debugging python crap, no i've got other more pressing issues right now05:24
superm1poke around with other people05:24
foxbuntuI am getting a back trace syntax error for the following line:05:24
foxbuntu    def clean_record_once(self,clean_record_once)05:24
superm1sorry no offense05:25
foxbuntusuperm1, nope05:25
foxbuntugo and do05:25
tgm4883_laptopfoxbuntu stop bugging superm1, he needs to finish other work so he can come back and work on mythbuntu :)05:26
tgm4883_laptopor woo girls05:26
foxbuntusuperm1, need to stop wooing girls for now05:26
tgm4883_laptopyou should never stop wooing girls05:27
foxbuntu:)05:27
foxbuntumy college policy... (f n c)05:27
MitoTranintgm4883_laptop: it's kinda important to stop the wooing once you get married...05:28
tgm4883_laptopno05:28
tgm4883_laptopnever stop05:28
pdragonwell, we're getting closer to being able to get channel icons. perl bindings was compiled in but there's a bug in the perl script05:28
pdragonhttp://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/commits/29405005:28
tgm4883_laptopbut once you're married, you can only woo one05:28
tgm4883_laptopscratch that05:28
MitoTraninlol05:28
tgm4883_laptopyou only want to woo one05:28
MitoTraninso true05:28
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pdragonyou're only "supposed" to want to woo one05:28
tgm4883_laptopthat one will score some points with the lady05:29
pdragonhehe05:29
foxbuntutgm4883_laptop, only woo one, but always remember, just because you are on a diet doesn't mean you can't enjoy looking at the menu05:29
tgm4883_laptophehe05:29
tgm4883_laptopfoxbuntu is soooooo the devil on my shoulder05:29
foxbuntulol05:29
tgm4883_laptopi can see it now05:30
tgm4883_laptop*poof* tgm4883, come on, she would want you to wipe that dirt off her chest *poof*05:30
MitoTraninok, so who is well versed in the boot order of ubuntu?05:32
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foxbuntu*poof* tgm4883_laptop , come on, she won't mind you "trip" and stopping yourself on her chest *poof*05:32
tgm4883_laptopnice05:32
MitoTraninok, thanks everyone for the info :) !05:33
tgm4883_laptop*poof* foxbuntu, she would want you to pretend those were airbags and that you were just in a car accident *poof*05:33
MitoTraninhere's what I discovered my problem to be...05:33
MitoTraninI have my recordings set to record to /data/mythtv/recordings05:33
MitoTraninthat dir is nothing more than a symlink to a folder within a network share mounted via fstab05:33
MitoTraninie: it's linked to /data/nas-mounts/mount1/folder/folder/recordings05:34
foxbuntutgm4883_laptop, then the headline would read "Man's Wife tortures and kills in fashion not seen since 1200BC by Kahn"05:34
tgm4883_laptoplol05:35
pdragonlol05:35
MitoTranineverything works fine, and my mythbackend starts and behaves properly when I either manually mount, or mount via the fstab via the 'mount -a' command05:35
MitoTraninbut if I let it mount automatically via reboot, that mount never gets fully mounted05:35
MitoTraninand thus mythbackend can't find it's recordings directory05:36
therethinkerBTW: I'm making mythbot DB-driven, editable from the web, etc05:36
MitoTraninand thus it starts up, and then hangs05:36
MitoTraninSO... anyone know why that is?05:36
pdragonsorry, i haven't done any network drive mounting yet05:38
MitoTranintrying something05:38
MitoTraninchanging from smbfs as the mount type to cifs05:38
MitoTraninI remember something about the smbfs not working right anymore, even though they are the same thing05:38
MitoTraninwell, that worked for one (I had 3... commented out 2 and changed 1).05:43
MitoTraninnow time to try all 3 :)05:43
pdragonlove mythbusters. just watched the one about leaving the lights on vs turning them off to save power. saves more power to turn them off05:48
therethinkerYes05:50
therethinkerMythbusters = good05:50
MitoTranin???05:50
MitoTraninI've never heard that it saves power to leave the lights on05:50
MitoTraninBUT... it does save on the life of the bulb to leave it on rather than to constantly turn it on and off05:51
pdragontrue05:51
MitoTraninbut that's if you're going to turn it on and off lots of times...05:51
pdragonthey found some firehouse that has a lightbulb that's been burning for 101 years05:51
MitoTranindoesn't save electricity... saves the life of the bulb *at the cost* of electricity05:51
pdragonit has a huge carbon fiber filament05:51
MitoTraninfor standard lights that's pointless05:51
MitoTraninwow05:52
MitoTraninthose huge lights in the ceiling of big gyms etc that take forever to warm up...05:52
pdragonahh... next they're testing the longevity of the bulbs :)05:52
MitoTraninthose things are much better to leave on than to turn off and on again...05:52
MitoTraninjust because they cost a ton05:53
MitoTraninheh05:53
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benlakeI've installed mythbuntu with the mythweb plugin, but I see no virtual host configuration for it?05:53
pdragoncool. they did the test turning them off and on every 2 minutes for a solid month05:54
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pdragononly bulb that lasted was the LED05:54
MitoTraninpdragon: yep... it kills the life of the bulb...05:54
MitoTraninbenlake: do you need a virtualhost config for it?05:55
MitoTraninmythweb is found at http://your.ip.here/mythweb05:55
benlakeMitoTranin: good call... :)05:56
MitoTraninbenlake: if your internal dns is setup right, you should also be able to use the hostname instead of IP... but that depends on proper dns....05:57
MitoTraninusing the IP is a sure-thing05:57
benlakeyeah its all fine, just saw they config pointing to a mythdir but no directory mapping05:58
MitoTraninnow that you mention it though, I don't remember seeing anything saying "look for your mythweb here"05:59
MitoTraninI'll post a bug about it... nothing big, but worth having a link to it at least.06:00
pdragonit's in the regular mythtv documentation06:00
pdragonhttp://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-14.html06:01
MitoTraninpdragon: but wouldn't it be considered "good form" to have a link to it in the mcc right where you enable/disable it?06:01
pdragonthis is true06:01
MitoTraninI see mythbuntu as being an "as near key-turn MythTV setup as possible" solution06:02
MitoTraninand to do that, the little things like that go a long way06:02
benlakeMitoTranin: indeed06:03
pdragonor, if not a link to it, just mentioning where the default URL is06:03
MitoTraninyeah06:03
pdragonsince most people probably won't be going to it on the mythbuntu box06:03
MitoTranin(since normally you wouldn't access it from within the mcc, but rather need to know where to access it from your normal pc)06:03
MitoTraninuh, yeah, what he said :)06:03
benlakeanyone have some more info on getting nuvexport than Google? Googles giving me a bunch of hackity stuff, I don't like going that route with a nice clean ubuntu system06:04
pdragonmaybe get the current IP of the mythbuntu box and a note saying: Access mythweb here: http://192.168.1.101/mythweb06:04
pdragonwith the real IP filled in there06:04
MitoTraninexactly what I'm mentioning in my bug report right now :)06:04
pdragon:D06:04
MitoTranin(it's not an actual bug, but not worthy-enough to be a blueprint)06:04
pdragondon't know ben06:05
MitoTraninbenlake: what do you need nuvexport for?06:07
benlakegetting recording off in say an avi06:07
MitoTraninyou'll probably want to use MythArchive instead06:07
benlakehmm06:07
MitoTraninah, to do that I would suggest setting up a custom UserJob06:08
benlakeis that command line accessible?06:08
MitoTraninand to do that, you'll need "hackity stuff"06:08
benlakeMitoTranin: have you used nuvexport?06:08
MitoTraninnope06:08
benlakeMitoTranin: you might understand where I'm coming from :)06:08
MitoTraninmy recordings have always been directly to either mpeg2 or mpeg406:08
MitoTraninI've never really had to deal with .nuv recordings06:09
benlakeMitoTranin: and since I haven't messed with MythArchive, it could be just fine for all I know :)06:09
foxbuntulaga, therethinker question for you about m-c-c06:11
MitoTraninhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/15043706:11
ubotuLaunchpad bug 150437 in mythbuntu "Mythweb link missing" [Undecided,New] 06:11
therethinkerSure06:12
therethinkerShoot foxbuntu06:12
therethinker(that's "Shoot, foxbuntu")06:12
foxbuntutherethinker, where can I find section "mythbuntu"06:12
therethinkerWhat?06:12
foxbuntuI am getting a back-trace about that06:12
therethinkerWhat do you want to do?06:12
foxbuntuConfigParser.NoOptionError: No option 'remove_once2' in section: 'mythbuntu'06:12
therethinkerWow... noclue06:12
foxbuntuConfigParser.NoOptionError: No option 'remove_once2' in section: 'mythbuntu'06:13
therethinkerOh06:13
foxbuntu    old_remove_once2 = self.config.get("mythbuntu","remove_once2")06:13
therethinkerdoes it give a line #?06:13
therethinkerYeah06:13
therethinkeryou're trying to get a setting that isn't set06:13
foxbuntuline 45306:13
foxbuntubut thats prob pointing to my code06:13
foxbuntuabove06:13
foxbuntuwhich i have not added to the branch as of yet06:13
therethinkerNo06:13
therethinkerthe problem is  trying to get a setting that isn't set06:14
therethinkerself.config.get("mythbuntu","remove_once2")06:14
therethinker"remove_once2"06:14
therethinkerneeds to be set06:14
foxbunturight06:14
foxbuntuwhere?06:14
therethinkerWell, why are you using it if its not set?06:15
therethinker:P06:15
foxbuntutherethinker, where do i set it?06:15
foxbuntuugh06:16
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therethinkerWhy are you using it if its not set06:16
therethinkerits like an option06:16
therethinkerDid you add it in there?06:16
foxbuntuan option where?06:16
therethinkerself.config.get("mythbuntu","remove_once2")06:16
therethinkerthat means get the config. value for "remove_once2"06:17
foxbuntuoh06:17
therethinkerdid you add that line06:17
foxbuntuyes06:17
therethinkerThen you need to set the value somewherelse06:17
therethinkerself.config.set("mythbuntu","remove_once2","VALUE_WHATEVER")06:18
foxbuntutherethinker, silly me...looking at the wrong file...06:18
foxbuntuok06:18
therethinker:P06:19
therethinker$slap foxbuntu06:19
therethinkerOh, right >_>06:19
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ubotuNew bug: #150437 in mythbuntu "Mythweb link missing" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/15043706:20
pdragonalright... having a brain fart. i remember back in alpha 4 i changed the style of the menus and stuff that popup when you change the channel06:22
pdragoncan't find where that was06:23
pdragonthe thing that shows the short program description06:23
MitoTraninfrontend setup >  general  > apperances?06:23
pdragonyeah, i'm looking there. found the theme change, but that just changes the mythtv frontent them06:24
pdragonthe menu and stuff06:24
benlakehow do I asked apt to remove only the package specified and not anything that depends on it?06:24
tgm4883_laptoppdragon, it's the same place, it's just the OSD that you want to change06:25
tgm4883_laptopbenlake, i don't think you can06:25
tgm4883_laptopwhy would you want to?06:25
benlakecause I'm going to manually install the package06:25
foxbuntusuperm1, I know your busy, but I have something that ought to be easy, ... the section "mythbuntu" in core.py, where do I set settings for that at?06:26
MitoTraninbenlake: tgm4883_laptop, I think you can, but you have to use dpkg not apt... but yeah... why would you want to?06:26
pdragonahhh... thanks tgm!06:26
benlakeI want to swap the package I'm using, but when I try to remove the package I wish to swap it wants to remove all this other stuff06:26
tgm4883_laptopbenlake, are you installing from source06:26
benlakeI'm building a new package from source, yes06:26
superm1foxbuntu, there is 2 functions used for populating the default settings and then querying the state of everything06:26
superm1look at the code, and you will see the function that sets everything up06:27
superm1it has tons of 'sets'06:27
foxbuntuk06:27
tgm4883_laptopbenlake, i'd check into dpkg, although I still am not sure if you can.  If you're building a deb for it, you should just be able to update it without removing the package06:27
benlaketgm4883_laptop: hmm, alright06:27
therethinkerI'm going to go punch grass06:31
therethinkerIts late06:31
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MitoTraninanyone here familiar with installing with xfs?06:44
MitoTraninif you do xfs, do you need a 100mb ext3 partition still?06:44
MitoTraninfor /boot that is?06:44
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pdragonactually, i read about that06:45
pdragoni saw someone recommended xfs just for the recording directory(s)06:46
pdragonuse ext3 for the os06:46
pdragoni did a 50mb partition for /06:46
tgm4883_laptopMitoTranin, pdragon, what irc clients do you use?06:46
pdragonirssi06:46
pdragonactually running it on my mythbuntu box and ssh into it06:47
tgm4883_laptopcan one of you try '/msg chanserv help register' for me06:47
pdragonMitoTranin: then i made a swap parition and the rest of it the xfs partition06:47
pdragonwoo... chanserv spam06:48
foxbuntutgm4883_laptop, I have to say I am impressed with myself here...I am already past compile errors on my m-c-c feature06:48
pdragonMitoTranin: so my box is: 50gb ext3, 1gb swap, 199gb xfs06:48
MitoTranintgm4883_laptop: I use pidgin right now actually06:49
MitoTranintgm4883_laptop:  yeah, I can do whatever... what portion are you looking for?06:50
tgm4883_laptopsec, it seems to be responding to me now06:51
ubotuNew bug: #150444 in mythbuntu "Guided install not using xfs" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/15044406:51
foxbuntutherethinker, do you know in m-c-c how to apply changes in the code?06:53
foxbuntutherethinker, right now when I apply my new feature checkbox it says nothing has changed06:53
pdragonlater all06:55
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ubotuNew bug: #150445 in mythbuntu "Fresh install not up-to-date" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/15044506:56
foxbuntusuperm1, I am to a place with the code that I will need your help when you have some time07:12
benlakeok guys, explain this one... my monitor has just gone to sleep in the middle of a movie :P07:12
foxbuntubenlake, its DPMS07:13
foxbuntuor gnome-screensaver07:13
benlakei don't have gnome installed, and I had DPMS on on my gentoo myth box and this didn't happen07:13
foxbuntudid you convert a ubuntu-desktop to Mythbuntu?07:13
benlakenope.07:13
benlakefresh from an iso07:13
foxbuntubenlake, ok, try this...07:14
foxbuntusudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:14
benlakeI can still pause, play, fast forward the movie... fyi07:14
foxbuntuscroll to your Monitor section07:14
MitoTraninfyi to all, today's woot item might be of interest...07:14
MitoTraninhttp://www.woot.com/07:14
foxbuntuMitoTranin, wow07:15
foxbuntudecent price07:15
foxbuntuMitoTranin, you know if that supports linux?07:16
benlakecan I replace a Haupagge 350 with that?07:17
MitoTraninlooking right now07:17
MitoTraninbenlake: that card is HDTV07:17
MitoTraninso you wouldn't want to07:17
foxbuntubenlake, comment out the DPMS line in your xorg.conf07:17
benlakeit says SD as well07:17
foxbuntuthen restart x07:17
MitoTranin(HDTV cards record the pure data stream, which means zero hardware encoding)07:17
foxbuntutry it again after that07:17
benlakefoxbuntu: aight.. wont that leave my monitor on when I leave it be for a while?07:17
MitoTraninwhich means it's great for HDTV, but terrible for regular tv07:17
foxbuntubenlake, no, there is still a screen-saver07:18
foxbuntuDPMS is just another one07:18
benlakeMitoTranin: awe, darn... over the air HD isn't appealing to me07:18
foxbuntumythbuntu installs gnome-ss as I recall becuase MythTV requires it07:18
benlakefoxbuntu: alright, I'll give it a try07:18
benlakefoxbuntu: I'm guessing I can tweak the ss settings with the apps provided by mythbuntu?07:19
foxbuntuvia the Xfce desktop I think07:19
MitoTraninwell, this site will tell you what you should be able to catch: AntennaWeb: http://antennaweb.org/07:19
foxbuntuWe just switched to Xfce and I am not as familiar07:19
benlakeglad you did, I like Xfce... even though my experiences with Xubuntu are not good07:20
superm1benlake, if you are using mplayer google how to disable screensaver with it.07:20
superm1foxbuntu, i can't get into any in depth code debugging.  sorry.07:20
benlakesuperm1: and I guess I'd want to set that as my default player in myth settings07:20
superm1benlake, what player are you using?07:20
superm1internal?07:21
benlakewhatever is with the default install, haven't tweaked that07:21
benlakeI'd assume mplayer of xine07:21
superm1No07:21
superm1internal is the default player07:21
benlakewth is "internal" ? :P07:21
superm1did the screen "fade" to black?07:21
superm1or just go black07:21
superm1instantly07:21
superm1Internal uses mythtv to play back video files07:22
benlakecursor popped up, then black07:22
benlakedont remember a fade07:22
superm1Ok so gnome-screensaver stuff still isn't fixed.07:22
superm1hm07:22
benlake:P07:22
superm1well for now close mythtv, go to the Applications menu07:22
benlakeglad I could help07:22
superm1and pick system07:22
superm1and pick screensaver settings07:22
superm1and you can turn it off there07:22
foxbuntusuperm1, I know...I don't really need debug help, more placement, its no longer broke, it just does nothing now. So whenever you have time,...even if it takes a bit...I will hack away at it for now07:22
superm1can you pastebin your ~/.xsession-errors ?07:22
MitoTraninsuperm1: someone (I think pdragon|out) was saying that the screensaver stuff is fixed for tv and recordings, but not for video playback07:23
superm1that's what i thought.07:23
superm1but he was using mplayer07:23
superm1not Internal07:23
MitoTraninno, he said he was using whatever was default07:23
superm1which is what would make this whole thing rather confusing.07:23
superm1mplayer isn't default afaik.  in his bug report he said he was using mplayer07:23
MitoTranin(1:20:59 AM) superm1: benlake, what player are you using?07:24
MitoTranin(1:21:03 AM) superm1: internal?07:24
MitoTranin(1:21:18 AM) benlake: whatever is with the default install, haven't tweaked that07:24
superm1right07:24
superm1oh i should specify who i mean07:24
MitoTraninwhich to me wouldn't mean mplayer07:24
superm1pdragon|out, was using mplayer07:24
MitoTraninOh!07:24
superm1according to bug report or post07:24
MitoTraningotcha07:24
superm1or wherever that was that i saw that today07:24
MitoTraninsorry, carry on :)07:24
superm1whereas benlake was using Internal from what it appears07:24
superm1unless somehow when mplayer is installed (as it is by default), got chosen07:25
benlakeyeah I didn't have a screen saver on the gentoo setup07:25
benlakethe DPMS worked dandy07:25
foxbuntusuperm1, think we could change the default in myth so people don't have to use internal?07:25
superm1internal actually works very well07:25
superm1in 0.20.207:25
benlakemyth from source on gentoo used mplayer as default...07:25
superm1really.07:25
benlakereary07:25
benlake6utopia607:26
superm1okay well can you go into mythtv settings and double check mythvideo's player?07:26
superm1and see what it is set as07:26
benlakehow about I just type passwords in IRC07:26
foxbuntusuperm1, guess I haven't used Internal in a long time07:26
foxbuntubenlake, glad the DPMS worked07:26
superm1foxbuntu, the only thing i dont like with regard to internal is how it scales the OSD07:26
superm1otherwise it works great and you get the same interface as your used to in the rest of myth07:26
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benlakefoxbuntu: no no, I mean I'm going to leave it on07:26
MitoTraninbenlake: might I suggest some password changing be in order?  :)07:26
foxbuntubenlake, oh07:27
benlakefoxbuntu: I disabled the screensaver, that is the issue07:27
foxbuntubenlake, gotcha07:27
benlakeMitoTranin: indeed, but you have no idea what its too :P07:27
MitoTraninsomething with a username of reary :)07:27
MitoTraninlol07:27
benlakehey superm1, my player command is: mplayer -fs -zoom -quiet -vo xv %s07:28
superm1well fancy that.  mplayer is indeed default07:28
benlake:P07:28
superm1crazyness.07:28
benlakemplayer works VERY well over the network07:28
foxbuntusuperm1, I am just impressed that m-c-c still launches with all my code in there :)07:28
superm1i wonder why that is. i swear Internal was default at one point07:28
superm1benlake, well there is a bug report from today against eitehr mythbuntu/mythtv/mythplugins07:29
superm1that pdragon|out made07:29
superm1the solution is posted in there07:29
benlakecan you do a search from MythVideo / Gallery?07:29
superm1we need to have a workaround put in place though otherwise07:29
superm1either make Internal the default player on new installs or ship with mplayer's config somehow disabled07:29
benlakesuperm1: for the screen saver thing?07:29
superm1*screensaver07:29
foxbuntusuperm1, the default for dvd playback is internal07:29
superm1yeah07:29
superm1benlake, perhaps this is why screensaver isn't turned off by default https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mplayer/+bug/10878507:32
ubotuLaunchpad bug 108785 in mplayer "gmplayer says 'gnome_screensaver_control()'" [Undecided,New] 07:32
benlakehehe07:36
benlakewhy bother with a screen saver?07:36
benlakeDPMS does just fine?07:36
benlakes/?/.07:36
benlakeI suppose DPMS isn't really configurable though...07:36
MitoTraninbenlake: it's prettier to look at pictures or fun stuff than it is to look at a menu and let it burn-in, or to have it go to a black screen....07:38
MitoTraninremember, majority use is with TV's, not monitors that can actually turn off07:38
benlakeburn-in :P07:38
MitoTraninTV's can't turn-off on idle...07:38
benlakeoh well... hmm ...07:38
benlakeis that what the stats say?07:39
benlakemost people use SD TVs?07:39
MitoTraninfoxbuntu: re the woot.com card:  look for it to hit this page: http://wootlinux.blogspot.com/07:40
benlakeI tried that a few years ago... couldn't handle the horrible TV resolution07:40
foxbuntuMitoTranin, I just let my TV go black07:40
MitoTraninI knew I'd seen this page somewhere but didn't have it bookmarked because I wasn't home when I saw it07:40
benlakeawe well, you guys will likely here from me on and off while I break this install in :P07:40
MitoTraninit reviews the items on woot.com and tells if they're compatible with linux or not07:40
benlakeI will say kudos to everyone, it was a much less painful experience to get up and running than the gentoo install...07:41
foxbuntuMitoTranin, thanks, bookmarked07:41
foxbuntubenlake, thanks07:41
MitoTraninthe only thing is that you have to hope that it doesn't get sold-out before they review it!07:41
benlakeand will be much easier to maintain07:41
benlakewhich is why I switched, I admin a number of ubuntu servers, so I maintainability is key07:42
benlakeoff to finish this movie, cheers07:43
foxbuntusuperm1, did you want me to do something yet with bug 140272 ?07:45
ubotuLaunchpad bug 140272 in linux-source-2.6.22 "Nova-T 500 kernel module dvb-usb-dib0700 requires options for LNA activation." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14027207:45
ubotuNew bug: #150450 in mythtv (multiverse) "mythfrontend.real crashed with SIGSEGV in RingBuffer::isDVD()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/15045007:45
superm1i don't even know exactly how that can be resolved at this point07:46
foxbuntusuperm1, or should I just kill it since there is no support for it in lirc.hwdb07:46
superm1what package needs to be fixed for it07:46
superm1well i wouldn't say kill the bug07:46
superm1because it is indeed a bug07:46
superm1if you can figure out what package ships the most appropriate file to add that to in /etc/modprobe.d07:46
superm1that would be good07:47
foxbuntuwell, lirc is effected by it, the kernel modules are effected07:47
superm1well that is different than the kernel modules though07:47
foxbuntusuperm1, ok, so I need to find that module07:47
superm1the kernel modules for the card do ship indeed07:47
superm1its just the lircd.conf that doesn't07:47
foxbuntusuperm1, could I add the lircd.conf to the package and edit the lirc.hwdb for it?07:48
superm1foxbuntu, no lirc is hard frozen07:48
foxbuntuok07:48
foxbuntusuperm1, btw have you heard the FCC finally set a date on transition to HDTV07:49
foxbuntu2/17/200907:50
foxbuntusuperm1, ok, I will see about tracking down info on this bug07:50
foxbuntusuperm1, night07:53
superm1night07:53
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DiggThissuperm1: has the hash sum mismatch being fixed?08:04
superm1DiggThis, pick a different mirror if you are still getting it08:04
superm1its not a bug in mythbuntu08:04
superm1just mirror.cs.umn.edu had issues08:04
superm1or has been havign issues08:04
MitoTraninDiggThis: to fix it you can change the update sources08:04
DiggThisk. tell me how please guys08:05
superm1although 0.20.2-0ubuntu9 of mythtv should hit the mirror soon anyway, and that will likely refresh all their hashes08:05
MitoTraningo to the applications menu, system, software sources, then change the "download from" to one of the other two options08:05
superm1MitoTranin, too quick for me :)08:05
MitoTranin:)08:06
DiggThisi have mAIN server or server for australia. any differences??08:06
MitoTraninwell... main server is in us I believe08:06
MitoTraninthe one in australia is... closer to you?08:07
DiggThisguess so. speed wise?? same you reckon?08:07
MitoTranintry the australia one, if you still get it (which I doubt you will) then try the main08:07
DiggThisk08:07
DiggThisthx08:07
MitoTraninit's always best to grab the one closest to you geographically if possible08:08
MitoTraninless strain on the internet overall08:08
MitoTranin(not like it's really THAT big of a deal though)08:08
DiggThisthx mitotranin and superm1 for input.08:08
MitoTraninnp08:08
MitoTraninI tried to catch you last time I saw you in the channel but you left too soon08:09
DiggThislol. time diff im in australia...08:09
MitoTraninjust a little....     (2:09:54 AM)08:10
MitoTraninwhich of course means... it's time for bed for me08:10
MitoTraninsuperm1: when is that meeting where you were going to talk to the ubuntu people about the plextor tuner?08:11
superm1i'm going to see if i can discuss thing at the developers summit08:11
MitoTraninif it's a ways off, I think I might try to get it working tomorrow and see how big of a pain it is, etc08:11
superm1end of month08:11
superm1yeah its about 3 weeks off08:11
MitoTraninhmm... ok, cool, thanks08:11
DiggThisAlso b4 you go or superm1 if ya know..i recently downloaded a prop vid driver and now the screen is not 'filled' anymore. how to fix this?08:11
superm1if you can get any more input before then08:11
superm1then that'd be great08:11
superm1'filled'?08:12
MitoTraninwell I'll see what I can do08:12
MitoTraninprobably meaning blank space on the edges08:12
MitoTraninnight all08:13
DiggThislike 16:9 on vesa driver strectched to 16:10 now that is not the case08:13
superm1well checkout your proprietary driver configuration utility08:13
superm1nvidia-settings or amdcccle08:13
DiggThisim using ati what setting would i look for?08:14
superm1well i dont knopw08:14
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superm1you'll have to look at the utility08:14
DiggThisk08:14
DiggThisits only in mythtv which is weird...08:14
superm1change your display type in mythtv08:15
superm1in settings->appearance08:15
DiggThisill try it might be not able to do it which sux big time...08:16
DiggThissuperm1: do u think if i can't do it i should return to vesa or stay with prop anyway?08:18
superm1prop08:18
superm1highly recommend it instead08:18
superm1much better performance08:18
DiggThisk08:19
DiggThishopefully there is a resolution08:19
DiggThissuperm1: that wiki you gave me last time was there anything in there that would have changed it you reckon??08:20
superm1i dont know what wiki i gave you before.08:20
superm1which one?08:20
DiggThishttp://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide08:21
superm1didn't i link you to the gutsy one?08:21
superm1nothing in that guide would have changed though for regard to aspect ratio stuff.08:22
superm1i really think you just need to change the setting in mythtv08:22
superm1so that your display aspect ratio is properly represented08:22
DiggThisk08:22
DiggThissuperm1: have another prob. after upgrading to prop mythtv not rendering properly and crashing back to login. what do i do?08:28
superm1look over logs and see if you can figure out why it's happening.08:28
superm1~/.xsession-errors08:28
superm1and /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old08:29
superm1and /var/log/syslog08:29
superm1and /var/log/messages08:29
superm1etc08:29
DiggThisdo u think i should just wait till support is built into gutsy for my card instead?08:30
DiggThissuperm1: i would not know what to look for in logs08:31
superm1DiggThis, well your call08:31
superm1if you post them on the forums people can work with you on it08:32
superm1that's why we opened up the mythbuntu forums08:32
DiggThisk08:32
DiggThissuperm1: is there a gutsy page that tells what cards are supported as of now?08:33
superm1not right now08:34
superm1i dont think at least08:34
DiggThissuperm1: what about the cards that the current driver supports - same deal?08:35
superm1what do you mean?08:35
superm1about a list of supported card?08:35
DiggThisyes08:35
superm1i dont know at all08:35
superm1sorry dude.08:35
DiggThisthats k. thanks for input anyway08:35
superm1pdragon|out, okay so i fixed your screensaver issue with mplayer.  it was actually a bug already reported a few times.  bug 95038 bug 139770 bug 65165 bug 146307 were all related09:27
ubotuLaunchpad bug 95038 in mplayer "mplayer with default wrong config ...and screensaver" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9503809:27
ubotuLaunchpad bug 139770 in mythbuntu "gnome-screensaver coming up when watching TV or recording" [Low,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13977009:27
ubotuLaunchpad bug 65165 in mplayer "default video output is xmga" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6516509:27
ubotuLaunchpad bug 146307 in mplayer "[Gutsy]  Mplayer uses xmga instead of xv as standard output" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14630709:27
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lagare12:00
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elmargolCan I use mythtv over a full featured dvb-s?01:07
lagayou won't be able to use its tv-out01:10
lagaor mpeg decoder01:10
elmargoltv-out01:10
elmargolAtm i use VDr wich works finde01:11
elmargolbut they don't make progress :(01:11
directhex|workmythtv is a veryy different type of project to VDR01:11
elmargolI search something to enjoy video podcasts on my tv01:12
elmargolsince i don't have windows or OSX I can't use apple tv01:12
directhex|workmyth is moving further away from simple 2d framebuffer output, not closer. don't ever expect video output on a fully featured dvb-s card01:13
directhex|workeven linuxtv's wiki tells you in no uncertain terms that they're a bad purchase01:13
elmargolWell my tv has no dvi/hdmi/or vda input01:14
directhex|workso use s-video out. which practically every graphics card has had for five years or more01:19
elmargolno video card...01:21
lagawe can't help you then.01:22
elmargolokay01:22
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hugolphow do you use a compter without video card?01:22
lagadont ask.01:22
lagasome people make me wanna bang my head against a wall.01:23
hugolpXD01:23
directhex|workit's part of the VDR design philosophy01:27
directhex|workit's really a single-use project01:27
lagai know01:28
directhex|workfor single-use machines01:28
lagai'm german, so i've heard all about VDR and then some...01:28
hugolpbut how can you see whats on the screen without video card?01:28
directhex|workhugol1, "fully featured" dvb-s cards have a crude tv-out01:28
directhex|worklike a pvr-35001:28
hugolpI see, so you use that01:28
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lagamorning superm103:31
Davieyfrink_: ping03:35
bendaileywow 2126 hits for the i386 iso03:37
hugol1bendailey:  one question, if I install ubuntu gutsy and then the mythtv repositories packages is the same as installing mythbuntu? if not, what difference?03:41
bendaileyhugol1: It is not the same because the mythbuntu uses xfce as a the desktop by default if you do gutsy first you will have a gnome desktop03:42
bendaileythere are also other package differences03:42
hugol1ok, and besides that?03:42
hugol1I mean at mythtv level03:42
bendaileyat mythtv level there should be no difference03:43
samson--i'd also check the post install scripts from the mythbuntu install disk to see what other magic it does03:43
hugol1conserning strickly mythtv what difference are there?03:43
hugol1ok thanks03:43
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lagare04:00
samson--re2thee04:01
lagabendailey: you can turn ubuntu gutsy into a mythbuntu + xfce thingamjic using mythbuntu-control-centre04:01
lagahi samson--04:01
lagaand at mythtv level, there is no difference. exact the same packages,.04:01
bendaileylaga: thanks04:03
lagaok, maybe we're including the weekly -fixes builds on our mythbuntu beta disk, but it's not a big difference04:07
MitoTraninlaga, and FYI to you: http://www.woot.com/04:12
MitoTraninnot sure if it works with linux or not though04:12
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lagathanks04:19
lagabut, FYI: i'm not in north american so i dont do ATSC04:19
therethinkergood morning #ubuntu-mythtv!04:33
lagamorning therethinker04:36
pdragonpinnacle stuff on windows is horrid (least it was last time i tried to set it up for someone).04:37
pdragonwouldn't trust it to be any better in linux04:37
pdragonleast on a blind purchase without any review of it04:38
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laga!launchpad04:55
ubotulaunchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/04:55
lagatherethinker: where is the bot?04:55
pdragonhe got put in the corner04:57
therethinkerbots not here right now04:58
lagai just found out that i had the left and right speaker reversed :/04:59
pdragonwant to put the gutsy countdown script on our page? http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/countdown  :)04:59
therethinkerOkay, I think he's ready05:01
therethinker*duhh duhh duhduhduhduhhhh duhh*05:02
therethinkerOh right now, this is how it works05:02
therethinkerIf it doesn't know something, it will search wikipedia for it05:02
therethinkerthen it will say !____, to check ubotu's bank05:03
therethinkerSorry, I don't know anything about linux. Wikipedia: "Linux (IPA pronunciation: /lnks/, lin-uks) is a Unix-like computer operating system." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux Ubotu says...05:03
therethinker!linux05:03
ubotuLinux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux05:03
therethinkerBut if it knows, then its just that...05:03
therethinkershould I disable wikipedia and/or ubotu?05:03
lagauh05:04
lagahow do i query it?05:04
laganot sure if i understand05:04
therethinkerIts not in here right now05:04
therethinkerOh, you use the $ instead of !05:04
lagaoh, cool.05:04
lagasounds good to me05:04
therethinkerit also knows some other commands05:05
lagacan you bring it in here for a test?05:05
therethinkerSure05:05
therethinker*presses big red button*05:05
therethinkerErr... I think it may have been banned :P05:05
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therethinker$mythbuntu05:06
mythbot2Mythbuntu is a flavor of Ubuntu that has MythTV programs preinstalled.05:06
laga$boobies05:06
mythbot2Sorry, I don't know anything about boobies. Wikipedia: "Booby (pl." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boobies Ubotu says...05:06
mythbot2!boobies05:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about boobies - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:06
lagarotfl05:06
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therethinker:P05:06
lagathat's a bit chatty.05:06
lagahum05:07
therethinkerYeah, so it kinda spams a bit... but I don't know how I can do it less05:07
therethinker!linux Sorry, I don't know anything about05:07
lagacan we redirect output into a query for specific users?05:07
lagalike !launchpad | therethinker05:07
therethinkerI'm trying to figure that out...05:07
therethinker!help05:08
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots05:08
therethinkerso yeah, it can send privates05:11
lagahow05:12
therethinkerI'm adding the feature05:13
therethinkerbut it has the ability05:13
lagak05:14
tgm4883Daviey, ping05:15
therethinkerOKay, it can now send stuff05:16
therethinkerI gotta restart it though05:16
therethinkerit uses pipes, just like ubotu05:16
lagayay05:17
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therethinker$laga | therethinker05:21
therethinkerhmm... I got nothin05:21
therethinker$laga|laga05:22
therethinkerdid you get anything?05:22
pdragon$laga | therethinker05:22
therethinker$laga05:22
therethinkerah, that's the problem :P05:22
tgm4883broke it again05:22
laga$laga05:22
therethinkerI CTRL+C'd it05:22
laga$boobies05:22
lagaheh05:22
tgm4883mythbot takes alot of breaks, reminds me of someone at work05:22
therethinker:P05:23
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therethinkerI went to restart mythbot, and I restarted my webs erver by mistake :P05:23
therethinker$laga05:23
therethinkerOkay, I'm going to go beat him up in my private room05:23
therethinker#mythbot-testing...05:23
therethinkerhardly private05:23
therethinker#mythbot-test , sorry05:24
tgm4883laga, Daviey, now that the dev channel is registered, we need to get Seveas to copy ubotu there, and then have all bugs reported there rather than in #ubuntu-mythtv05:24
therethinkerOh, we have a dev channel now?05:25
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tgm4883yea but you're locked out :)05:25
therethinkerWhyyy D:05:26
tgm4883j/k, it's not totally setup yet05:26
tgm4883and not alot of people know about it so it consists of 3 people05:26
tgm4883but laga's ignoring me anyway so he doesn't have to do more work for it ;)05:27
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therethinkerOKay, I'm going to go05:27
therethinkerhave fun05:27
lagao_O05:27
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therethinker(the whole pipe thing doesn't work, but the normal stuff will)05:28
benlakeis mythfilldatabase responsible for setting the channel call signs?05:28
therethinkersorry, I said "have fun", and I didn't mean to type it... but it came out :P05:28
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bendaileylaga: way to break mythtv Ticket #4065 :)05:46
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directhex|worklaga, what sound card are you using?05:48
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tgm4883_laptopfrink_, any updating on the rsync?07:29
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pdragontrying to do the channel icons and found this bug was reported: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/404707:38
pdragonwhere do i find Myth.pm to edit that function?07:38
troy_sfoxbuntu: So what is the default layout for Mythbuntu?  I would need to know to develop the little icon flourishes and such.07:40
troy_sfoxbuntu: The 'basic' install includes how many subpages and menu items etc?07:40
cann_iam geting "alsa-lib: pcm_hw.c:1242:(snd_pcm_open) open /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p failed : no such file or directory" after a new install when running mplayer. anyone else got this problem ?07:44
pdragonnot i07:47
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tgm4883_laptoplaga, Daviey, did you guys get my earlier message?07:52
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camelreefgood evening all08:07
camelreeflaga, are you there?08:08
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deffcon2101laga / superm1 ?08:15
tgm4883_laptopsuperm1 isn't going to be around for a while, something you needed?08:16
Davieytgm4883_laptop & tgm4883: pong08:18
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tgm4883_laptopDaviey, we need to get ubotu copied over to the dev channel and have it report bugs there not here08:19
Davieysure08:19
deffcon2101yes a question, with the beta 1 why do i get the question to fill in a password for mythbuntu control centre every time my system starts up08:20
tgm4883_laptopso can you bug seveas? to do that?08:20
tgm4883_laptopdeffcon2101, bug?08:20
deffcon2101is it a bug already did someone report this before?08:21
tgm4883_laptopi've not heard of the problem before08:21
deffcon2101are there people running the beta already?08:21
pdragon<---08:22
tgm4883_laptopdeffcon2101, lots should be08:22
pdragontgm4883_laptop: you wouldn't happen to know where Myth.pm is located at do you?08:24
deffcon2101or is that just a stupid question08:25
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tgm4883_laptoppdragon, did you search for it?08:25
pdragondeffcon2101: is it a clean install? do you have anything else starting up?08:25
tgm4883_laptopdeffcon2101, everyone running mythbuntu and that has updated is08:26
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Davieytgm4883_laptop: done08:28
tgm4883_laptopsweet08:28
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pdragontgm4883_laptop: yeah, ran a find on the whole system and nothing08:28
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pdragonmust be there somewhere. channel icon script runs just gives an error that there's currently a fix for. just have to edit Myth.pm08:29
deffcon2101this is fresh install of mythbuntu beta 1 and i find it strange that i have to fill in password before mythfrontend is startup up08:30
pdragondeffcon2101: are you on wireless by any chance?08:30
deffcon2101i find it strange to fill in a password overall for mythbuntu control centre, how would you do that if you have only a remote and no keyboard via vnc ? --> only numeric08:31
deffcon2101no not wireless why is that then08:31
pdragoni'd get a password dialogue in fiesty if i tryed to connect to secure wifi08:31
deffcon2101non not wifi08:31
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pdragonmythbuntu control center does require a password since it needs root access. the frontend shouldn't be asking for a password, tho08:33
deffcon2101since when do you not have to fill in a password for mythbuntu control centre08:33
deffcon2101since beta 1?08:33
pdragonyou still have to put in a password for mythbuntu control center in beta08:35
deffconbut why its not logical08:35
pdragonit's a program that requires root access. and you're not running as root08:35
deffconand there is no access from lirc support for the password field in mythbuntu control centre08:35
pdragonthat i'm not sure about08:36
deffconi know for sure it doesn't work on my remote08:36
deffconi told superm1 about this08:36
lagare08:37
lagare08:37
lagaerr, double-re08:37
deffconimagine, you can do everthing with you're remote, but for mcc you need a keyboard or vnc08:37
lagadirecthex: i use whatever came with my mainboard, a 945p thing08:38
tgm4883_laptopdeffcon, you can't control mcc from the remote08:38
lagapdragon: re MythTV:pm the perl bindings were added in the latest mythtv upload08:38
pdragonlaga: i see that. i'm running into this bug now tho: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/404708:39
deffconarggghhh08:39
deffconthat is what i mean, can we do something about that08:40
lagadeffcon: yopu shouldnt be prompted for a password if the password you set for your gnome keyring is the same as your normal user pass..08:40
deffconif you want to interest people that they can have a htpc distro and you can do everything with you remote  that is really cool, but not really cool if you want to adjust something in mcc to use a vnc session or a keyboard08:41
lagabendailey: blah.08:41
bendaileylaga: blah?08:41
lagabendailey: 17:32 < bendailey> laga: way to break mythtv Ticket #4065 :)08:42
lagasuwhats wrong wrt the dev channel?08:42
bendaileylaga: that was you wasn't it?08:42
lagabendailey: yep08:43
laga:)08:43
lagadeffcon: uh, what is wrong now?08:43
pdragonhe'd like the mcc controlable with a remote08:44
tgm4883_laptopdeffcon, it's being worked on08:44
laganot possible right now. use vnc.08:44
tgm4883_laptoplaga, better yet, use x forwarding08:44
deffconok i leave it for now then08:44
lagaand we never said you can do anything with a remote. we're not stupid after all ;)08:44
deffconyes that is an option too08:44
deffconi'm not saying that08:45
lagatgm4883_laptop: i'd suspect that people with windows background know more about vnc08:45
lagadeffcon: yeah, but we'd have to be stupid to claim that everything works with a remote :)08:47
lagasince you dont have to use mcc that often, VNC is OK for now08:47
lagathere are more pressing issues08:47
camelreefgood evening09:04
deffconbut it is normal that mythbuntu control centre asks for a password before mythfrontends start up?09:04
camelreefthanks for the packaging that got into my machine this AM09:05
camelreeflooking at getting the remote into X ?09:05
camelreefthe new xorg shoudl help greatly with this -> hot-plug devices for evdev devices09:06
camelreeflaga, so I got my fonts together after all09:07
camelreefanyway, gotta go09:08
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MitoTranin|Workanyone good with sql?09:40
pdragona little09:41
MitoTranin|Workis there a tool similar to diff that will compare 2 sql databases?09:41
pdragonum... no idea there09:41
MitoTranin|Workmy first thought is to backup the sql to a text file and then do a diff against them09:42
benlakethat is going to be a crazy diff :)09:42
MitoTranin|Workbut not sure if that will work or not (a friend of mine is asking me to help him find such a solution)09:42
MitoTranin|Workbenlake: yeah, that's why I am hesitant to go with that thought ...  :)09:43
pdragondid a google on "compare database contents". tons of commercial programs that will do it :p09:43
pdragonbut, maybe that will give you an idea of what to look for09:43
bendaileyare you looking to compare table structure or contents?09:43
bendaileybenlake: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^09:43
MitoTranin|Workbendailey: again, its my friend that's doing it, so I don't know all the details, but...09:43
MitoTranin|Workthey have a database, and they want to do xyz of procedures to it09:44
MitoTranin|Workthen they want to compare the before and after, and see what changed09:44
benlakebendailey: why are you asking me?09:44
bendaileybenlake: sorry didn't pay attention to who asked09:44
bendaileyMitoTranin|Work: that is what LEFT and RIGHT JOINS are for do they have a primary key on the tables?09:45
MitoTranin|Workbendailey: I have no idea... I would assume so, but you know what assume gives...09:46
bendaileyMitoTranin|Work: yep assuming is never good09:46
bendaileywould you like an example of how I would tackle the problem?09:46
MitoTranin|Workthat would be great...09:47
MitoTranin|WorkI just sms'd him asking him to get on an IM if possible09:47
MitoTranin|Workhe's at work right now though and not sure if he can09:47
deffconis there a way to let mythweb listen to another port number09:48
MitoTranin|Workdeffcon: I'm sure you could edit the httpd.conf file to do so09:48
bendaileydeffcon: yes you should be able to change the Listen directive in your httpd.conf file09:48
bendaileyit is probably currently Listen *:80 change it to Listen *:8088 or whatever port you want09:49
bendaileydeffcon: you can have multiple Listen lines and apache will respond on multiple ports09:49
bendaileyMitoTranin|Work: do you want the example as a pm so you don't clog the channel?09:50
deffconthnx man this is very helpfull because i have an webserver running on another machine09:50
deffconlistening on 8009:50
bendaileyare you trying to push access through from the outside via firewall?09:50
MitoTranin|Workbendailey: actually he's online and going to be getting on irc in a sec09:50
deffconyes from outside09:50
bendaileyMitoTranin|Work: ok great09:51
bendaileydeffcon: you firewall should be able to do port translation for you09:51
tgm4883_laptopdeffcon, couldn't you forward the port via the firewall from port 88 to port 80 of the correct machine?09:52
bendaileydeffcon: the firewall should be able to respond to  8088 externally and forward to your local system on port 8009:52
deffconon my router that is not possible, seccond option " respond to 8088 " will work09:53
bendaileydeffcon: what kind of router?09:54
deffconlivebox from orange09:54
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Xenocidehey guys i can't mythbuntu to install when its loading partitioner it hangs09:59
MitoTranin|WorkXenocide: I had the same problem10:00
Xenocidefix it?10:00
MitoTranin|Workinstall gpart while in the livecd10:00
MitoTranin|Workyea10:00
MitoTranin|Workand then use that to delete all partitions on your drive (or at least the ones you want to delete)10:00
tgm4883_laptopideally, someone should write a bug report for that10:00
Xenocideok.10:00
MitoTranin|Workthen restart the computer, and install as normal10:00
Xenocidewhoops i forgot to plug in my ethernet cord10:01
Xenocidehah10:01
MitoTranin|Worktgm4883_laptop: it was when I was first starting, and superm1 said that he knew about it... so I didn't bother10:01
tgm4883_laptopmythbuntu beta?10:01
Xenocideyes10:01
MitoTranin|Workyes10:02
Xenocideonly one of my harddrives is showing up too.....10:02
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MythbuntuGuest84..10:03
pdragonXenocide: are the hard drives showing up in the BIOS?10:05
Xenocideyes10:06
Xenocidei just deleted the partions on the one that showedup10:06
Xenocidei was having graphics problems too so im booting back up in safemode10:06
tgm4883_laptopMythbuntuGuest84?10:06
Xenocidenow i just got a can't access tty error10:06
pdragontgm4883_laptop: he didn't have much to say apparently10:07
tgm4883_laptoparg, someone needs to copy onenote10:09
tgm4883_laptopvirtualbox seemless mode is kinda flaky10:10
Xenocidei agree!10:10
Xenocideonly reason i run vista on my tablet is because of that10:10
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Xenocidei have an x60t10:10
tgm4883_laptopi run it in a vm10:10
Xenocidei LOVE it10:10
Xenocideit only sees one disk...ill install like that for now10:13
Xenocidebut if i do guided im assuming its setup to do xfs and all that jazz10:13
pdragonno10:13
tgm4883_laptopno10:13
Xenocideno?10:13
Xenocidewell its hanging anyways...10:14
Xenocidepiece of shit10:14
tgm4883_laptopcurrently it's the gutsy standard one10:14
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pdragonproblem?10:15
tgm4883_laptopeh10:15
Xenocidestill won't partition10:15
tgm4883_laptopall the "ESL" students in the class get to use a dictionary on the tests10:15
tgm4883_laptopkinda bugs me10:16
pdragonwhat class? english? :p10:16
Xenocideif i install with an alpha4 disk will i have less bugs? .lol10:16
tgm4883_laptopJava programming 210:16
pdragonahh10:16
Xenocidei thought the instlaler worked on that one..10:16
pdragonXenocide: most likely not10:16
Xenocideshitty i cna't even install it...10:16
tgm4883_laptopXenocide, have you tried updating?10:16
Xenocidefrom live cd?10:17
tgm4883_laptopyep10:17
Xenocidei can try10:17
Xenocidemy video is all messed up too10:17
tgm4883_laptopthat will give you the newest installer10:17
Xenocideonly see half the screen10:17
Xenocidehopefully i have enough ram to update10:17
tgm4883_laptophow much?10:17
Xenocide1gb10:18
Xenocideshould be10:18
tgm4883_laptopdefinetly10:18
pdragonin safe graphics mode? i have trouble in normal myself10:18
Xenocidesafe mode crached10:18
Xenocidecrashed10:18
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Xenocidehaha was too lazy to install xchat and navigated away there10:19
pdragonjust as something else to test... tried running memtest86 to make sure your memory is ok?10:21
Xenocideused this machine last year in feiesty for myth ran great10:22
pdragonthere's a much newer version out than what's included on the ubuntu disks10:22
Xenocidebeen sitting in my closet10:22
pdragonahh ok10:22
Xenocidefinally pulled it out since i got a chance to mount my new 32" lcd on the wall :)10:22
Xenocidelittle over half way done updating10:22
pdragondid you say alpha worked ok?10:22
Xenocidei installed it on another machine for mario just to see if it worked i thinik10:23
foxbuntubrb10:23
Xenocideawhile ago10:23
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pdragonwell, you've exhausted my newb knowledge :)10:23
Xenocideits trying to configure mythtv database10:24
Xenocidei guess it doesn' tmatter since im gonna install....10:24
tgm4883_laptoptheres another option if a gutsy disk will work10:25
Xenocidealt install?10:26
tgm4883_laptopyea something like that10:26
tgm4883_laptopbasically installing a command line system10:26
tgm4883_laptopinstalling xfce410:27
tgm4883_laptopthen mcc10:27
Xenocideyea10:27
tgm4883_laptoperr10:27
tgm4883_laptopcommand line10:27
XenocidePIA though10:27
tgm4883_laptopthen apt-get mythbuntu-desktop10:27
Xenocidei was tottaly right10:29
Xenocideran out of space d urin gupdate10:29
Xenocideill try it anyways10:29
Xenocidejust to see if it iwll work10:29
Xenocideinstalled half the shit10:30
Xenocidestill hung at scannign disks10:30
Xenocidecan in install comman dline system from this mythbuntu disk?10:31
rhpot1991does anyone know if mythtv.pm is something new not in the mythbuntu repos or is my path somehow screwed up?10:31
MitoTranin|WorkXenocide: no, you'd have to do the alternate install from the standard Ubuntu Gutsy disk10:32
Xenocidedamn10:32
MitoTranin|Workinstall it as command-line, and then apt-get the rest of the install10:32
Xenocidei might have one sitting around10:32
Xenocideold alpha version10:32
Xenocidebut baseline system that would be good enough10:32
MitoTranin|Workyeah10:33
MitoTranin|Workbecause the apt-get of the mythbuntu stuff would update the rest10:33
Xenocidei have some old alt install disk10:36
Xenocideim not sure if its feisty or gutsy10:36
pdragonrhpot1991: which error are you getting?10:36
pdragonrhpot1991: you trying to run the channel icon script?10:36
MitoTranin|WorkI'm not sure if feisty would work... never tried it10:37
Xenocidehow can i install a baseline system form a live disk10:37
MitoTranin|Worktgm4883_laptop: any ideas on the feisty thing?10:37
rhpot1991I was working on this script: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Ipod_export10:37
rhpot1991error: Can't locate MythTV.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.8 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/local/bin/ipodexport.pl line 19.10:37
tgm4883_laptopfeisty would theoritacally work10:37
Xenocidewell hell10:38
tgm4883_laptopbut i dont recommend it if your doing a fresh install anyway10:38
rhpot1991I sem to recall mythtv.pm being something from svn maybe?10:38
pdragonrhpot1991: are you running beta?10:38
Xenocideill just burn a mini iso to cdrw10:38
Xenocideand install that10:38
rhpot1991Im just running the mythbuntu weekly builds10:38
tgm4883_laptopyou could install feisty, then upgrade it to gutsy10:38
pdragonrhpot1991: there was an update last week that put the perl bindings into the mythtv build10:38
rhpot1991hmmm strange, my system is up to date10:38
pdragonrhpot1991: it wasn't in there in the orignal beta. not sure which update did it10:39
rhpot1991I'm just running the builds from apt on a straight ubuntu install10:39
rhpot1991the 0.20.2 fixes that is10:39
pdragonnot sure. i'm running off a mythbuntu install10:40
pdragoni was getting that same error. means mythtv wasn't built with perl bindings10:40
rhpot1991are you running the 0.20.2 fixes or trunk?10:40
bendaileyMitoTranin|Work: are you still around?10:41
pdragonum... honestly not sure. just installed the latest beta and ran apt-get upgrade10:41
pdragonstill learning this stuff myself :)10:41
Xenocidetgm4883_laptop is this still like fiesty where my xfs partition should mount to /var/lib?10:43
tgm4883_laptopeh10:43
tgm4883_laptopI am not  fan for using /var/lib as the mount for the xfs partition10:44
tgm4883_laptopbut yes, in that respect it is the same as feisty10:44
Xenocidewell thats where the default recordings go though?10:44
tgm4883_laptopright, but it's not a very good location10:44
rhpot1991where is the contrib folder located at again?10:44
tgm4883_laptopbecause10:44
tgm4883_laptopfrom either a bug in the partitioner or by design, /var and all sub-directories MUST be formatted during install10:45
tgm4883_laptopthis isn't very fresh upgrade friendly10:45
pdragonrhpot1991: not sure. i grabbed the script i needed from svn10:46
rhpot1991I think you are running a different version that me10:47
rhpot1991from what I am seeing the mythtv.pm error comes when you try to run using the 0.20.2-fixes10:47
pdragonversion in aptitude says 0.20.2-0ubuntu910:49
rhpot1991hmmmm, are you actually running mythbuntu or just ubuntu?10:50
pdragonmythbuntu10:50
rhpot1991mine says 0.20.2+fixes14581~ubuntu0~mythbuntu110:51
pdragoni'm honestly not sure how to interpret the version numbers.10:52
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pdragondoh... think he left for a bit10:52
rhpot1991I'll check in later and see if anyone knows then10:53
rhpot1991time to head home from work anyways10:53
rhpot1991thanks for the help10:53
Xenocideinstalling base system now...10:53
pdragoncya10:53
MitoTranin|Workbendailey: just now leaving, what'd you need?11:05
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Xenocidetgm4883 i am installing base line system now11:34
tgm4883ok11:34
Xenociderepositories are slow as CRAP today for some reason11:34
Xenocidedoing an install off the netboot cd11:34
rhpot1991anyone have any idea how to get mythtv.pm on my system?11:37
tazgodxare there any apps that get installed with mythbuntu so that i can transfer files to that computer for pictures and videos?11:39
tgm4883tazgodx, transfer files from anther pc?  Or from a camera?11:40
tazgodxanother PC11:41
tazgodxi can transfer from a camera to this PC and then transfer to my mythbox eventually11:41
tgm4883tazgodx, windows pc or linux?11:42
tazgodxlinux11:42
tgm4883ok11:42
tgm4883you have a few options11:42
rhpot1991nfs share I'd say11:42
tgm4883I'd just leave the pictures on your desktop pc and use NFS so they appear on the frontend11:42
tazgodxnfs huh?11:43
tazgodxdo i need to install anything on my other linux PC for that?11:43
tgm4883network file system11:43
tgm4883basically you make the desktop share the pic folder via NFS, then mount the share on the frontend11:44
tgm4883http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Feisty#NFS_Server11:44
tgm4883works on gutsy11:45
rhpot1991hmmm, does mythbuntu work with gusty and not feisty?11:46
tgm4883yes, mythbuntu is based on gutsy11:46
rhpot1991gusty packages seem to have mythtv.pm but feisty ones don't11:47
tazgodxhow do i get mythtv to look in that folder instead of the default when i want to look at those pictures? and also i was hoping for a way to transfer my DivX encodes over to my backend to watch. it has more storage than this PC11:48
tgm4883tazgodx, all acomplished with NFS11:49
tgm4883you set the dir for the frontend to look in the frontend setup11:49
tgm4883and just stream the DivX from the desktop, or setup a NFS server on the backend and connect to it from the desktop11:50
tazgodxok, i get it. thanks. ill play with that later11:50
tazgodxone more question. is it possible to get mythtv to play stage6 and youtube videos on the browser? that would be a cool bonus when hanging with friends bored11:51
tgm4883eh11:52
tgm4883I think there is a plugin for youtube videos11:52
tgm4883not really sure on that though11:52
tgm4883When I'm bored, I have go get owned in Halo 3 :)11:53
tgm4883talk about snail mail.  I just got an email from 200311:54
tazgodxHAHA11:55
tazgodxi got an e-mail a few month back from 190311:55
tazgodxlol11:55
tazgodxand i don't ahve a XBOX or XBOX 360, cause i hate them both. so i need some videos11:56
Xenocidei have a modded xbox, i love it, but don't use it anymore now that i use mythtv11:56
Xenocideactually used to use it as a frontend..11:56
Xenocideamazing for SD quality movies11:57
Xenocidebetter than myth actually11:57
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directhex"hate them both"? O_o12:00
tazgodxim a sony fanboy12:00
tazgodx:)12:00
tgm4883_laptopwhat?12:00
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directhexwake me when there's a single ps3 game worth the sticker shock12:01
tazgodxheavenly sword?12:01
tazgodxi don't ahve a PS3 yet, but that will be my next console12:01
directhexnowhere close12:01
directhexheavenly sword is a 5 hour scrolling beat 'em up with button mashing issues12:02
tazgodxhow about the fact that its a BD player? on top of the console, the XBOX needs an extension just to add HD support, which is most likely going to lose the HD format wars12:02
directhexi want a games console as a games console. i'm completely unconviced by either HD movie format right now12:03
tgm4883_laptopdo you two just want to get out the ruler and measure?12:03
tazgodxhaha12:03
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tgm4883_laptopseriously though, while HD is king.  I am also unconvinced in the HD market as to which is better.  Apparently though, there is going to be a 200 HDDVD player this christmas12:05
tazgodxa what?12:05
tazgodx200GB?12:05
tgm4883_laptopsorry12:05
tgm4883_laptop$20012:05
mythbot2Sorry, I don't know anything about 200. Wikipedia: "Human population reaches about 257 million." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/200 Ubotu says...12:05
mythbot2!20012:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 200 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:05
tazgodxohhhh12:05
tgm4883_laptoptherethinker!!12:05
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tgm4883_laptopwell there will be a 399 PS3 available soon12:06
tazgodxyeah, the 40GB12:06
tgm4883_laptopalthough, MS now has the 2 games included to combat that for 34912:07
directhexthe version with no backward compatibility, flash media reader, and half the usb ports?12:07
tgm4883_laptopyep12:07
tazgodxi don't know, i just think that the xbox was rushed. and halo 3 is basically halo with different levels12:07
directhexstill got no games to play though!12:07
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tgm4883_laptopis this the xboxvsps3 channel?12:08
directhexyes!12:08
tazgodxlol12:08
tgm4883_laptop*enter booming voice* you've entered the twilight zone12:08
tazgodxthere is a xboxvsps3 channel?12:08
tgm4883_laptopsure, #xboxvsps312:08
tazgodxi actually hate that argument, so im gonna leave it be.12:09
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tazgodxeveryone has their points, and their stands. no one can change their views12:09
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tgm4883_laptopit's completely ridiculous.  Both machines can do pretty much what the other can12:09
Xenocidesiytllll trying to install base system so slow12:10
tazgodxhaha, one more note on that. the PS3 cell processor is far supperior. and in the end if they code for it, will far surpass any graphix on the 36012:10
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directhextgm4883_laptop, but that's the point. the technology is irrelevant. it's all about the games. a single, powerful masterpiece is enough to warrant the sticker shock of the machine12:10
tgm4883_laptoptazgodx, i don't think you understand a few things here12:11
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tgm4883_laptop.....nevermind12:11
directhextgm4883_laptop, i really don't care about technology. i view the consoles as accessories required to play the games. but in the end, looking at the shop shelves, some systems leave you spoilt for choice, and some you're scraping about and overpaying for mediocre12:12
tazgodxim done. back to screwing with my mythbox12:12
tgm4883_laptopagree, games rule all12:12
directhexthere's pleanty to hate about the 360. it's noisy, hot, and unreliable. but the games, it's no contest12:14
tgm4883_laptopto each his own12:15
directhexwell. that's of the current-gen systems. of things on the shop shelves, the ps2 is probably the best value proposition12:16
tgm4883_laptopI spent a long time on a different forum and know much about each console.  It's just amazing what some people believe12:16
tazgodxi still game on my PS2, and probably will not stop anytime soon. but mainly im a PC gamer12:17
tgm4883_laptopeh, current-gen, next-gen.  These are words thrown around to confuse the consumer12:17
tgm4883_laptopIMHO, I can't think of one reason that I would get a PS312:18
directhextgm4883_laptop, teh bloo rays!12:18
tazgodxok, so from what im reading is that the only way to get flash installed on mythtv is to install it on firefox and make firefox my web browser in mythtv12:18
tgm4883_laptopnope12:19
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tgm4883_laptopdirecthex, I would not get it because of that12:19
tgm4883_laptopin fact12:19
tgm4883_laptopthat is a point against it12:19
directhexit's... um... quieter than an xbox? and it has, um, lair on it?12:19
tgm4883_laptopwait12:20
tgm4883_laptopI just remembered one12:20
tgm4883_laptopit kicks ass at Folding @ Home12:20
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directhexi don't do distributed computing12:20
directhexand there's ps3 linux... as long as you like framebuffers...12:20
tgm4883_laptopps3 linux, not so good12:20
directhexthen again, myth has some ps3 optimizations now, offloading basic Xv functions onto cell12:21
tazgodxthose folding at home numbers just show the power of that cell processor12:21
tgm4883_laptoptazgodx, yes.....12:21
tgm4883_laptopwhats your point?12:21
directhextazgodx, assume it's my job to know about chip design. cell's a colossal miss in many ways. and really, not relevant to making good games12:21
tazgodxhaha12:21
tazgodxback to my mythbox12:22
directhexsome of my all-time favourites, to this day, are on the snes not the 360. the hardware's not an important point12:22
directhexi just don't see why double precision floats are so crippled for cell :/12:22
tgm4883_laptopgraphics are pretty important12:22
tgm4883_laptopgameplay and graphics are pretty hand in hand12:22
directhextgm4883_laptop, you think? you'd pick an HD game like lair over a 320x200 game like monkey island?12:22
tgm4883_laptopwithout one, the game sucks12:22
superm1tgm4883_laptop, do you have a freshly installed gutsy install in a VM?12:23
superm1or at least one that is recent?12:23
superm1like after bulletproofx got in12:23
tgm4883_laptopsuperm1, yea i think so12:23
tgm4883_laptopI should have the beta installed12:23
superm1tgm4883_laptop, could you do me a favor and run 'sudo dexconf -o /tmp/xorg.conf' and then pastebin the output of that xorg.conf12:23
tgm4883_laptopyea sec12:24
superm1you can them confirm my suspicions about BulletProofX being broken for everyone12:24
directhexit was broken for me last i tested it :/12:24
superm1directhex, you did a fresh gutsy install?12:24
Xenocidesuperm1 just the man i wanted to yell at :D12:24
directhexsuperm1, no, it was an upgrade install. the laptop was fresh, but pre-bulletproofx12:24
superm1i think i know the root cause why it broke for everyone too12:24
superm1i see directhex12:25
superm1well it would be broken for those types of people too12:25
superm1if its the cause i think it is12:25
superm1my solution will only solve new installs however12:25
superm1Xenocide, no yelling, i've already got a stressful enough week and am on edge12:25
Xenocidetgm4883_laptop my base install is done what is the first package i need to install12:25
Xenocidesuperm1 haha im just messin man, i had a whole bunch of bugs with beta cd tgm4883_laptop suggested i work from a CLI system up12:26
tgm4883directhex, no, I would though chose lair over something like robocop for the nes12:26
superm1Xenocide, did you file them?12:26
tgm4883mythbuntu-desktop12:26
Xenocideno, i need to12:26
superm1i didn't see any new reports12:26
superm1okay12:26
superm1are you sure they weren't already fixed?12:26
superm1or what not12:26
Xenocidetgm4883 if i instal ljust that, it will feill everything else12:26
tgm4883it should.  It's a meta-package12:26
Xenocidei have not looked at all to tell you the truth, i know a bunch of people were having the partitioner problem, but i mhaving one with X being cut in half12:26
Xenocideok. I will le tyou know in one secon dhere12:27
superm1x being cut in half?12:27
superm1wtf?12:27
tgm4883thats better than tgm4883 being cut in half12:27
superm1well yeah, b ut still wtf12:27
tgm4883like I said, directhex, you need both12:27
Xenocidehaha12:27
Xenocideyea orange line down my LCD tv12:27
tgm4883oh that means you need a bigger LCD TV12:28
Xenocideat default resolutoin, if i change resolution it got "better" but was still cut in half at one point or another12:28
Xenociderepos sooo slow tonight12:29
Xenocide50kbps12:29
superm1Xenocide, so why dont you install with a normal monitor, and then switch to your tv12:29
superm1once you get proprietary drivers installed?12:29
Xenocidewhy would it matter......itsn' tit just a big monitor...12:29
superm1well that depends on *why* you had orange line12:30
Xenocideim installing from command line right now because i couldn't get anything working in the live cd12:30
directhextgm4883, there's more to a game than photorealism12:30
tgm4883directhex, like gameplay?12:30
directhexerll, obviously. but it's more a general sense of presentation12:31
therethinkersomeone want me?12:31
therethinkerAh12:32
directhexgenerally, i'd rate my all-time best-looking game as on the ps2, and most atmospheric as on snes. overall, my "desert island game" is on dreamcast12:32
therethinkerYeah... the bot12:32
therethinkerSo... what about it?12:32
therethinkerShould I disable numbers12:32
therethinkerand the spammy12:32
directhexyou could /msg ubotu rather than do it in-channel, then parse the output to decide whether to show it12:33
superm1are they going to be interacting?12:33
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therethinkerdirecthex -- I'll work on that later12:33
therethinkerWell, what it did, was if it didn't know, it'd say !____12:34
therethinkerand then ubotu might answer12:34
therethinkerbut I'll do it in private12:34
superm1oh no, don't do that12:34
therethinkerYeah, it doesn't anymore12:34
therethinker$cheese12:34
mythbot2ValueError: invalid literal for int() with base 10: 'cheese' (file "/var/nas/phenny/modules/help.py", line 16, in f_chelp)12:34
tgm4883_laptopsuperm1 http://pastebin.com/m11c97fff12:34
therethinkerwhoops12:34
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therethinker$cheese12:34
mythbot2Sorry, I don't know anything about cheese. Wikipedia: "Cheese is a solid food made from the milk of cows, goats, sheep and other mammals." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheese Ubotu says...12:34
therethinkerYeah, so its better now.12:35
superm1tgm4883_laptop, can you see if that pci id12:35
superm10:2:0 is accurate?12:35
superm1via lspci12:35
therethinkeroh, superm1: when you can, can you help with my TV Tuner12:35
directhexdexconf doesn't use bloody the pci id does it?12:35
superm1dexconf is for debugging only12:36
tgm4883_laptopit's the virtualbox graphics adapter12:36
superm1right12:36
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superm1so it is accurate12:36
directhexanyway, bedtime12:36
superm1night directhex12:36
superm1hm12:36
tgm4883_laptop$mcc12:36
mythbot2mythbuntu-control-centre, or mcc, is a application designed to make setting up MythTV simpler12:36
superm1$lvm12:37
mythbot2Sorry, I don't know anything about lvm. Wikipedia: "LVM is a logical volume manager for the Linux kernel." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lvm Ubotu says...12:37
tgm4883_laptop$.2112:37
superm1yeah this thing can be pretty useful12:37
mythbot2TypeError: msg() takes exactly 3 arguments (2 given) (file "/var/nas/phenny/modules/wikipedia.py", line 155, in g_wikipedia)12:37
therethinkerThanks :-)12:37
tgm4883_laptopheh12:37
superm1does it no multiple words?12:37
superm1*know12:37
tgm4883_laptopdid i break it?12:37
therethinkerIt does12:37
therethinkerNope12:37
superm1er i mean multi word statements12:38
therethinkerIt got messed up with the.12:38
superm1like12:38
tgm4883_laptopah12:38
therethinkerIt will12:38
superm1$mythtv 0.2112:38
mythbot2TypeError: msg() takes exactly 3 arguments (2 given) (file "/var/nas/phenny/modules/wikipedia.py", line 155, in g_wikipedia)12:38
therethinkerwe had $bill gates at one point12:38
therethinker$bill gates12:38
superm1take that as a no12:38
mythbot2Sorry, I don't know anything about bill gates. Wikipedia: "William Henry Gates III (born October 28, 1955[2] ) is an American entrepreneur, philanthropist and chairman of Microsoft, the software company he founded with Paul Allen." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_gates Ubotu says...12:38
tgm4883_laptop$foxbuntu12:38
mythbot2foxbuntu is a mythbuntu dev, he is leet, although not as leet as tgm4883.12:38
therethinkerIts getting messed up by the "."12:38
tgm4883_laptopyep12:38
tgm4883_laptoppretty right on if you ask me12:38
therethinkerI'll strip it12:38
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therethinkerOh, superm1: can you unblock mythbot?12:39
therethinker$.2112:39
mythbot2TypeError: msg() takes exactly 3 arguments (2 given) (file "/var/nas/phenny/modules/wikipedia.py", line 155, in g_wikipedia)12:39
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therethinkerThanks :-)12:39
superm1he's not banned still12:39
therethinkerhmm12:40
therethinkerit didn't work12:40
therethinkerearilier12:40
tgm4883_laptopsuperm1, who added the proprietary codecs to mcc?12:40
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therethinkerI did12:40
tgm4883_laptopI found a bug12:40
therethinkerK12:40
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tgm4883_laptop64-bit users don't have w32codecs12:40
therethinkerOh... they have w6412:40
tgm4883_laptopwe have w64codecs12:41
superm1that would make for a troublesome situation yeah12:41
therethinkerYeah.... what should we do? Can we detect that easily?12:41
lagauname?12:41
therethinkerah12:41
lagaor some python function12:41
therethinkeruname... I'll try that12:42
superm1uname -m12:42
therethinkerthat's convient12:43
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tgm4883_laptoptherethinker, no web interface for the bot?12:43
superm1guys, isn't this why we have -dev.....12:43
superm1lol12:43
therethinker:P12:43
therethinkerOh, btw on the bot12:43
tgm4883_laptopwhoops12:43
therethinkerYeah, Its not working for some reason...12:43
laga$.2112:43
mythbotTypeError: msg() takes exactly 3 arguments (2 given) (file "/var/nas/phenny/modules/wikipedia.py", line 155, in g_wikipedia)12:43
therethinkerI'm trying to fix it...12:43
laga$print("foo")12:43
mythbotOperationalError: near "foo": syntax error (file "/var/nas/phenny/modules/help.py", line 20, in f_chelp)12:43
laga$print(foo)12:43
mythbotTypeError: msg() takes exactly 3 arguments (2 given) (file "/var/nas/phenny/modules/wikipedia.py", line 155, in g_wikipedia)12:43
MitoTranintherethinker: will simply adding quotes work?12:44
tgm4883_laptopyou should pull it until it's fixed12:44
laga$print('foo')12:44
mythbotTypeError: msg() takes exactly 3 arguments (2 given) (file "/var/nas/phenny/modules/wikipedia.py", line 155, in g_wikipedia)12:44
laga$;print('foo')12:44
laga:/12:44
therethinkerO:P12:44
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therethinkerDo you guys mind a port... like zbanks.mine.nu:8080?12:46
MitoTranin?12:46
tgm4883_laptopdoesn't matter to me12:46
therethinkerk12:46
lagadont care12:47
lagai got real intarnets.12:47
therethinker:P12:47
lagaany ISP who blocks ports other than 80 needs some serious pitchfork & torch treatment12:48
tazgodxis there a default root password on mythbuntu?12:49
superm1by default no root password.12:49
therethinkerI hope not..12:49
MitoTranintazgodx: you login with the user and pass that you create during install, and then do "sudo su" to get root12:49
tgm4883_laptopwell there's no root user12:49
tgm4883_laptopso a root password would be pointless12:50
superm1well there is actually a root user, but its undefined password for it12:50
superm1not to be confused with no root password12:50
tgm4883_laptopand the account is disabled isnt' it?12:50
superm1well its disabled in the sense that you can't log into it because you don't have its pw12:50
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tazgodxso, whats the command to make a password for root?12:50
MitoTraninso, as I said.. in answer to his question.. to get access to root, you "sudo su"  :)12:51
therethinkeroh, everyone who cares:12:51
tazgodxim using sudo su now12:51
superm1tazgodx, do you need to be permanently root?12:51
therethinkerits working again12:51
tgm4883_laptopsuperm1, some people like breakage12:51
tazgodxjust trying to mount my LVM as /var/lib/ and getting tired of sudo12:51
MitoTranintazgodx: why not add it to /etc/fstab then?12:52
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MitoTranina lot of times it's good to know some more background, because the solution that you're trying to use isn't always the best solution, and without knowing more background, the better solution can't be given12:53
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tgm4883_laptoptherethinker, wheres the bot?  we gotta show foxbuntu12:57
therethinkerIts in #mythtv12:57
therethinker*#mythbot12:58
therethinkersorry12:58
therethinkerI'm fixing the sparratic bugs12:58
tgm4883_laptopthats cool12:58
tgm4883_laptoplet me know when the web interface is back up12:58
therethinkerIt is12:59
therethinkerIgnore the "Docss" double s... I'll fix it when I get time12:59
therethinker :P12:59
rhpot1991superm1: are you around?01:02
superm1momentarily01:02
rhpot1991what is the best/easiest way for me to get mythtv.pm, running feisty weekly builds from mythbuntu01:02
rhpot1991seems its only in the gutsy builds01:03
superm1rhpot1991, wait a few days, it will show up in the weekly builds soon01:03
superm1there was a problem with the ppa01:03
superm1either laga or i need to sort it out01:03
rhpot1991alright good enough01:03
superm1but i'm particularly busy, so it may not happen from my side for a bit01:03
rhpot1991I'm still having that problem where my frontend is constantly updating, I'm gonna try doing some fresh installs ontly my laptop and see if I can figure out what is causing it01:03
superm1yeah i pretty much threw in the towel trying to find the cause of that.01:04
superm1beats me01:04
superm1i mean it has no actual consequences01:04
rhpot1991is there any reason why I should upgrade to gutsy instead of sticking with feisty01:04
superm1other than annoyancees01:04
rhpot1991I think its supposed to be release sometime this month01:04
superm1because that's where all the cool development has been happening01:04
superm1and where mcc is01:04
rhpot1991what is mcc?01:05
superm1therethinker, oh where is mythbot when you need him01:05
=== superm1 sighs
therethinker:P01:05
rhpot1991heh01:05
superm1mythbuntu control centre01:05
therethinkerSee! We do need him!01:05
superm1only the coolest app that we've written01:05
superm1rhpot1991, go to mythbuntu.org and go to the screen shots01:05
superm1you'll get an idea of what it can do01:05
rhpot1991ah, I've seen it01:05
rhpot1991gui for config01:05
superm1yeah01:05
superm1and lirc is included01:05
superm1no building modules01:05
rhpot1991dist upgrading from feisty to gutsy, work well?01:06
superm1easier administration all around01:06
superm1in theory :P01:06
rhpot1991my machine is pretty solid now other than that constant upgrade, I'd hate to break it01:06
rhpot1991machines that is01:06
superm1well i can't make any guarantees, especially since my address is easily obtainable via the web ;)01:07
superm1but i'd like to hope it'd be a smooth upgrade01:07
superm1that's the spirit in it01:07
rhpot1991I'd imagine gutsy is pretty stable at this point what with release happening soon?01:07
superm1rhpot1991, well if your gonna go gutsy, wait at least until monday01:07
superm1there is a lot of bug fixing activity flying around01:07
superm1all week01:07
therethinkeroh superm1: how is this?01:07
superm1you'll download multiple gigabytes this week probably in updates01:07
therethinkerIf there's nothing in wikipedia01:07
therethinkerit will say !____01:07
therethinkerOr no?01:08
rhpot1991is it still set for october release?01:08
superm1therethinker, well i dont think thats a good idea still01:09
superm1it will just create more bot spam01:09
superm1just if no wikipedia, then no answer01:09
superm1rhpot1991, yes01:09
superm110 days01:09
therethinkerOkay01:11
therethinkerSounds like a plan ;-)01:11
therethinkerI might do a Mythbot > (msg ubotu) > wikipedia01:12
therethinkerbut it would always be 1 message01:12
rhpot1991I'm gonna mess around some with my old laptop, if I get the update problem fixed or mess with upgrading to gutsy I'll let you know01:12
therethinker!linux | therethinker01:15

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