[01:13] <stefg> ah.... thx LjL . that was quick
[01:25] <ikonia> service with a smile
[01:59] <Seeker`> 'gutsy is still beta software and is not officially supported yet'?
[02:37] <Madpilot> hi all
[02:37] <Madpilot> greetings from Gutsy :)
[03:47] <nalioth> anybody know anything about NFS ?
[03:47] <nalioth> it's my bi-annual attempt to get it working 
[03:59] <tonyyarusso> I've usually shared files by just setting up apache instances on each machine.... :P
[04:03] <jdong> nalioth: what, did you get a !nfs | nalioth ?
[04:03] <nalioth> jdong: didn't you see?
[04:04] <jdong> no, wasn't paying attention... *reads scrollback*
[04:04] <nalioth> of course i did.
[04:04] <jdong> LOL you did
[04:06] <jdong> Samba IMO is much more braindead-simple to set up and works very will with almost every OS out there
[04:06] <nalioth> jdong: that's why you limit it to internal IPs
[04:07] <jdong> nalioth: aye, but my internal IP is a fairly large network where I have no reason to trust whether or not aynone's IP spoofing or eavesdropping via a switch sniffing software
[04:50] <nalioth> how do you browse smb shares in a terminal?
[04:56] <effie_jayx> nalioth,  smbclient -L?
[04:57] <maxamillion> nalioth: few ways ... you can use fusesmb and then just cd to it or you can use smbclient
[04:57] <maxamillion> there are others but i am not familiar with them
[05:03] <jdong> nalioth: if you have GNOME, you can also use gnomevfs-ls smb://server/share
[05:03] <jdong> nalioth: a better permanent solution is just to use mount.smbfs to mount the Samba share somewhere
[05:04] <nalioth> thanks all
[05:05] <jdong> anyone here use Mutt with maildirs?
[05:06] <jdong> hmm nvm, what I'm trying to do seems unsupported
[06:38] <nalioth> tgm4883_laptop: so #ubuntu-mythtv-dev won't work?
[06:38] <tgm4883_laptop> that would also be great
[06:38] <nalioth> go for it
[06:40] <nalioth> tgm4883_laptop: please register it in accordance with #ubuntu guidelines
[06:41] <nalioth> tgm4883_laptop: /msg chanserv help register
[06:41] <tgm4883_laptop> ah
[06:42] <tgm4883_laptop> i did /msg chanserv help per the webpage, but nothing happened
[06:42] <tonyyarusso> check your server window
[06:42] <nalioth> your client may be directing it weirdly
[06:42] <tgm4883_laptop> xchat
[06:42] <nalioth> yep, xchat is good at that
[06:43] <tgm4883_laptop> yea im not getting it anywhere.  Would it just come though as a pm?
[06:43] <nalioth> yes
[06:43] <nalioth> but xchat puts chan/nickserv msgs just anywhere
[06:44] <tgm4883_laptop> :(, usually i get pm's under the Ubuntu Servers.  i'm not getting it anywhere though
[06:44] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm, already identified too
[06:48] <tgm4883_laptop> ah
[06:48] <tgm4883_laptop> seems it perfers /msg ChanServ
[06:54] <ubotu> nickrud called the ops in #ubuntu
[06:54] <ubotu> kotau called the ops in #ubuntu
[06:55] <ubotu> heguru called the ops in #ubuntu
[06:55] <nalioth> all those bans
[06:55] <nalioth> for 1st time offenders, too
[07:38] <ubotu> In ubotu, ardchoille said: This is my bold text.
[08:00] <Jucato> jdong: ping. ubuntuforums question :)
[08:00] <jdong> sure
[08:01] <Jucato> is there a place (maybe a channel) where I can ask about how/what to do as a moderator? :)
[08:02] <Jucato> (I know this is not the place.. maybe there's some other place)
[08:02] <jdong> we dont' have a particular channel for that
[08:02] <jdong> I don't mind where it's discussed
[08:03] <Jucato> I see. ok. might ask in the future... now a mod in our loco sub-forum :)
[08:03] <jdong> Jucato: awesome -- there should be some info in the forum guidelines that is directed towards moderators
[08:04] <Jucato> yep. I was thinking more of how/when to do things. technical stuff mostly... but anyway no questions for now :)
[08:06] <jdong> yeah, poke whenever you have a question :)
[08:06] <Jucato> thanks :)
[08:44] <Mez> Jucato, just dotn ask me
[09:26] <Madpilot> hey all.
[09:26] <tonyyarusso> hey
[09:28] <Madpilot> messing around w/ gutsy beta via livecd. is interesting. compiz frustrates me.
[09:33] <jussi01> Madpilot: doesnt it frustrate everyone?
[09:33] <Madpilot> quite possibly
[09:34] <Madpilot> One point in Gutsy's favour - all this crapiz stuff works on my ATI 9600XT w/o any Restricted Driver stuff
[09:37] <jussi01> oooh, thats nice :)
[09:38] <Madpilot> evidently the Free ATI drivers have caught up to my tech level :)
[09:39] <jussi01> hehe, I have the same thing with my radeon 9250... although the drivers are currently borked...
[09:39] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: I bought a couple of Drupal books today
[09:43] <Madpilot> cool. haven't heard back from Canonical about the Theme Editor or any of the other questions I had, but feel free to poke around in the guts of ubuntu.ca
[09:45] <Madpilot> Least Favourite Crapiz "Feature": No way to switch desktops w/ mousewheel. I use that all the time in Metacity...
[09:45] <tonyyarusso> I wish you had ssh and/or ftp access so you could install modules and the like yourself.
[09:45] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso: that was one of the things I asked about in the email I sent
[09:46] <tonyyarusso> cool
[09:48] <Madpilot> also asked about Planet
[10:08] <Madpilot> hey Amaranth - enjoying the media attention?
[10:09] <tonyyarusso> media attention?
[10:10] <Amaranth> MOTU interview
[10:10] <Madpilot> on p.u.c - scroll down to the Behind MOTU post
[10:10] <Amaranth> And if it's anything less than Forbes I'm not impressed ;)
[10:11] <tonyyarusso> ah, right
[10:11] <tonyyarusso> Saw that
[10:11] <Madpilot> Meh. The Economist > Forbes ;)
[10:11] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: does System76's offer of LoCo even flyers apply to Canada?
[10:12] <Madpilot> No idea, haven't looked into it.
[10:13] <Madpilot> cool
[10:14] <Madpilot> we haven't even talked about a release party locally; a couple of the other known Ubuntu users have left town recently and the rest of us are busy w/ non-Ubuntu things - school, mostly
[10:14] <tonyyarusso> I can't decide whether I'm excited because we're having a release party or terrified because I'm in charge and don't know what I'm doing ;)
[10:15] <Madpilot> buy beer. and chips. provide wireless. done.
[10:15] <Tm_T> Madpilot: doesnt work here =)
[10:15] <tonyyarusso> Skipping the beer for the main portion.  nnonix is looking into the possibility of going out afterwards though.
[10:16] <tonyyarusso> I should ask what the internet setup is there...forgot to mention it.
[10:16] <Madpilot> skipping the beer? at a geek party? terrible!
[10:16] <tonyyarusso> We are however going to have a digital projector and a few systems with Gutsy installed, and check it out on the big screen.
[10:16] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: Too many underage people we don't want feeling left out.
[10:16] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: Plus, our meeting location is on the university campus.
[10:17] <tonyyarusso> So, part a is dry, possible part b otherwise.
[10:17] <Tm_T> always fun to start day with kickban
[10:17] <Madpilot> ah, right, I forgot you're in the Land Of Insanely Old Drinking Ages
[10:17] <Tm_T> Madpilot: sorry, I fail to understand your meaning
[10:17] <tonyyarusso> 21 vs 18 Tm_T 
[10:17] <Tm_T> yes?
[10:18] <Madpilot> having 21 be the legal age for drinking, vs 19
[10:18] <Tm_T> so?
[10:18] <Madpilot> or 18 in some provinces
[10:18] <Tm_T> almost like you cant have fun without alcohol
[10:18] <Madpilot> well, it just means that a university crowd is far more likely to be underage
[10:19] <Tm_T> I'd rather keep alcohol out from Ubuntuland, afterparties are different ofcourse
[10:19] <tonyyarusso> Yeah, that's pretty much what we're going for Tm_T - a semi-unofficial afterpart for that; keep it clean for the normal stuff.
[10:20] <Madpilot> ya, there's also the risk of someone combining drink & sudo - that way like wrecked systems :)
[10:20] <Madpilot> s/like/lies
[10:20] <Tm_T> tonyyarusso: yup
[10:20] <tonyyarusso> Plus, I _really_ don't want to risk the off chance of anyone getting out of hand and having to pay the multiple-hundreds-of-dollars bill for extra cleanup charges on the university location....
[10:24] <Tm_T> mooh mooh
[10:27] <tonyyarusso> hokay, 3:30 AM?  bedtime.
[10:31] <Madpilot> gah, 0130 here - got to be up by 0700. Bleh.
[10:32] <Madpilot> night all
[10:34] <Tm_T> 1134
[10:35] <Tm_T> hmm, maybe I should start going to uni, see ya kids ->
[12:57] <ubotu> In #ubuntu+1, kyja said: !!!! Compize is rawkin for me now !!
[03:29] <ubotu> WaltzingAlong called the ops in #ubuntu
[03:34] <stdin> now Woet is asking in -offtopic
[03:34] <gnomefreak> i see that
[03:34] <Hobbsee> need ops there too?
[03:34] <Hobbsee> oh, you have ops there
[03:34] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: not yet
[03:35] <gnomefreak> im trying to
[03:36] <Hobbsee> mmm...i should upload nspluginviewer
[03:36] <Hobbsee> it's still marked as orange in my inbox
[03:36] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: if you want iceape is in revu as well
[03:36] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: just leave them.  that's the most effective way
[03:36] <Hobbsee> bah, revu.
[03:36] <gnomefreak> sincee asac decided to ignore me the last 3 weeks
[03:37] <Pici> Seveas: Aww.. :(
[03:37] <Hobbsee> all i do for revu is resync the keyring, and unscrew whatever idiot user has decided to do, who clearly *isnt* following any instructions.
[03:38] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: sounds like fun :)
[03:38] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: i agree sort of
[03:38] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: yeah.  where do they get the pea-brained idea to upload a _i386.changes?
[03:38] <Hobbsee> that's mentioned *nowhere* in any ubuntu documentation
[03:38] <Hobbsee> and still they do it
[03:38] <gnomefreak> i hope no tme
[03:38] <gnomefreak> not me
[03:39] <Hobbsee> and dont bother about ubuntu version numbers, or ubuntu targets
[03:39] <Hobbsee> likely no time - he's still trying to fix the mangler, remember
[03:39] <gnomefreak> because they assuming its right when dput <tab> is used
[03:42] <Hobbsee> means they're building binaries, not sources.
[03:42] <Seveas> Hobbsee, don't assume they know the difference :p
[03:43] <Hobbsee> Seveas: yeah, well.
[03:43] <Hobbsee> if the version doesnt have 'ubuntu' somewhere in it, it must be wrong.
[03:47] <Woet> Im complaining about Seveas 
[03:47] <Seveas> like we haven't seen that before
[03:47] <Hobbsee> Woet: okay, why?
[03:47] <Woet> Because he bans without any reason or warning.
[03:47] <Seveas> https://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/bans.cgi?query=Woet&kicks=on&oldbans=on&bans=on&oldmutes=on&mutes=on
[03:48] <Seveas> heh, lying, haven't seen that before either
[03:48] <Woet> ?
[03:48] <jrib> Woet: I was typing out your ban as well.  I had given you more than enough warnings
[03:48] <Woet> You go talk bullshit then you say "NO discussion anymore"
[03:48] <Woet> because you cant proof your point
[03:48] <Hobbsee> Seveas: can it.
[03:49] <Hobbsee> gah.
[03:49] <Hobbsee> @btlogin
[03:51] <Pici> hmm.
[03:52] <Hobbsee> Woet: how many users are in #ubuntu?
[03:52] <Woet> no idea?
[03:52] <Hobbsee> take a guess
[03:52] <Woet> like 1200?
[03:52] <Hobbsee> nearest hundred will do
[03:52] <Hobbsee> correct
[03:52] <Hobbsee> and how many of those do you think are asking questions?
[03:52] <Woet> like 50?
[03:53] <Woet> 1135 users btw
[03:54] <Hobbsee> so, how do you think the channel would be if they repeated their questions each minute?
[03:54] <Woet> If they repeated when you need to scroll to see the message, it should be fine.
[03:55] <Hobbsee> if 50 people repeated every minute, everything that they were asking, the channel would be unusable.
[03:55] <Woet> and the good thing is, only i am repeating
[03:55] <TheSheep> considering the standard terminal has 25 lines, they would have to reapeat all the time ;)
[03:55] <Woet> So thats ok.
[03:55] <Hobbsee> Woet: yes, but that got you banned.  and wont be getting you banned any time soon.
[03:55] <Hobbsee> Woet: your ability to be a moron doesnt make everything OK.
[03:55] <Woet> So, maybe they need to warn?
[03:55] <Seveas> Woet, and why do you think you're so special you're allowed to repeat?
[03:56] <Seveas> Woet, you got quite a few warnings, you just got more obnoxious after each
[03:56] <Hobbsee> Woet: warn?  whatever for?  most people can actually look and read and apply *thought*.
[03:56] <Hobbsee> Seveas: again, can it.
[03:56] <Seveas> Hobbsee, can it yourself, I'm explaining why I banned
[03:56] <Hobbsee> Seveas: fair enough
[03:56] <Woet> Well, if you kick for legit reasons i would behave.
[03:57] <Hobbsee> Woet: and repeating is not a legit reason?
[03:57] <Woet> That wasnt the only kick.
[03:57] <Hobbsee> i saw all of them.  htey were all for repeating.
[03:57] <Woet> let me show you my logs then.
[03:57] <Hobbsee> Woet: give me a break.  you clearly dont know how to behave in a busy irc channel, so you wont be back there any time soon
[03:57] <Hobbsee> oh, go ahead.  i'll compare them to the bantracker logs
[03:58] <Woet> * You have left channel #ubuntu (requested by Seveas: "*no* further discussion means *no* further discussion")
[03:58] <Woet> that isnt about repeating.
[03:58] <Seveas> true, that's for staying obnoxious after ops told you the rules
[03:58] <Woet> He didnt tell me the rules, he asked me something.
 Woet: repeating your question does not magically make people know the answer. People do not know the answer. No more discussion on this please
[03:59] <Woet> So, you think your smart enough on that point that i cant reply to it?
[04:00] <Hobbsee> and what did he ask?
[04:00] <Woet> Its about WHY he asked it.. and if its fair to ask that kind of question.
[04:00] <Woet> If someone joins after my question who knows the answer, he doesnt know i asked it.
[04:00] <Woet> And when i repeat it, he will.
[04:00] <Hobbsee> yes, but the world doesnt revolve around you.
[04:01] <Hobbsee> and, if everyone used the same logic, the channel would be unusable.
[04:01] <Woet> im not the only one repeating.
[04:02] <Woet> and the channel is still usable
[04:02] <Seveas> and you're not the only one being kicked for it
[04:02] <Hobbsee> Woet: their moron-ness does not excuse yours.  they got kicked, just as you did.
[04:02] <Woet> I got banned, they got kicked.
[04:02] <Woet> And the channel was fine when i repeated myself, still usable, so i see no reason to kick/ban me.
[04:02] <Seveas> you continued, they stopped
[04:03] <Pici> Usually people get that they shouldn't be doing that after they get kicked.
[04:03] <Hobbsee> probably because of the sheer number of times you repeated.  how do you know they didnt get banned, anyway?
[04:03] <Woet> And the channel was fine when i repeated myself, still usable, so i see no reason to kick/ban me.
[04:03] <Woet> .
[04:03] <Hobbsee> Woet: you're deluded.  and all you're doing now is showing your unfitness for the channel, so therefore increasing the lenght of your ban.
[04:04] <Woet> who is the owner of #ubuntu?
[04:04] <Hobbsee> hte irc council
[04:04] <Woet> and where can i find him?
[04:04] <Hobbsee> and they've just told you.
[04:04] <Woet> where is he?
[04:04] <Hobbsee> here, and Seveas.
[04:05] <Woet> too bad the owner is an abusing admin then
[04:05] <stdin> too bad some people simply can not obey the rules too
[04:05] <Hobbsee> that's why there are others, and two other people have already weighed in on this ban, and told you it was warranted.
[04:05] <Hobbsee> so, too bad that you refuse to follow the rules.
[04:05] <Hobbsee> and be a sane human being.
[04:06] <Woet> i never saw any rules?
[04:06] <Hobbsee> they were in the topic.
[04:06] <stdin> and you were told about the no repeating rule
[04:06] <Woet> lets see.
[04:07] <Hobbsee> dude.  you've been through this.  the answer was still no
[04:07] <Woet> * Topic for #ubuntu is: Official Ubuntu Support Channel | Please be patient and read the FAQ. | FAQ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Gutsy is NOT supported, beta testers can join 
[04:07] <Woet> and where are the rules?
[04:07] <jrib> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
[04:07] <Hobbsee> first and third links.
[04:07] <Hobbsee> you lose.
[04:07] <Woet> a FAQ isnt rules
[04:07] <Hobbsee> the other is
[04:07] <Woet> IRC Info isnt either.
[04:07] <jrib> read it
[04:07] <Hobbsee> that just shows your inability to read then
[04:07] <stdin> if you read them you will find them
[04:08] <Woet> If you give more clear information about each link, users will click them.
[04:08] <Woet> IRC Info seems like a help-page about IRC to me.
[04:08] <jrib> and I told you the rule explicitly
[04:08] <Hobbsee> Woet: consult them while you're banned.
[04:08] <Hobbsee> then come back, and see if you're suitable for irc.
[04:09] <Woet> well, i guess i am.
[04:09] <Woet> since this isnt the only network im online at.
[04:09] <Hobbsee> maybe they have different rules
[04:10] <Woet> well, your talking about being suitable for irc in general
[04:10] <Woet> not for this server or channel.
[04:10] <stdin> that's all well and good, but #ubuntu has certain rules and you refuse to follow them. maybe someone on those other network can help you
[04:10] <Hobbsee> but most would have rules telling you not to be a moron.
[04:10] <Hobbsee> btw, what's your other client/
[04:10] <Woet> other client.. as in?
[04:11] <Hobbsee> you're obviously using another one, to get the users of teh channel, etc.
[04:11] <Woet> err
[04:11] <Woet> ./list #ubuntu
[04:11] <Woet> ?
[04:11] <penguincentral> no dot
[04:11] <Woet> /list #ubuntu
[04:11] <Hobbsee> ah, right.
[04:11] <Hobbsee> either way, the answer is still no.
[04:12] <Woet> you could start with saying users there are rules before kicking
[04:12] <Woet> and making clear your an op.
[04:12] <Woet> if i see some unnamed guy in a chan ask me to shut up.. i dont take it serious
[04:12] <Woet> if a op does, i do take it serious
[04:13] <Hobbsee> does this answer your question?
[04:13] <Hobbsee> refer to freenode policy for staying op'd
[04:13] <Woet> well, do like
[04:13] <Woet> Im an op, and im asking you to stop repeating
[04:13] <Woet> .
[04:13] <Hobbsee> if you see some person telling you to behave, you should always obey it, if it's right
[04:13] <Hobbsee> ye gods.
[04:14] <TheSheep> awww, so cute :3
[04:14] <Hobbsee> shoulda kickbanned him earlier.  oh well
[04:15] <Hobbsee> sad, that people require force to learn how to behave.
[04:15] <Seveas> Hobbsee:
 you'll regret that
 I'm banned for discussing OSS on a freenode channel....you sure you wanna do that?
[04:15] <Seveas> that's another candidate
[04:16] <Hobbsee> oh yay.
[04:16] <Pici> He spelled source wrong.
[04:16] <penguincentral> Hobbsee: i found the code of conduct, but it was buried very deeply
[04:16] <jrib> heh
[04:16] <Hobbsee> !coc | penguincentral 
[04:16] <ubotu> penguincentral: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[04:16] <Hobbsee> oh, that's interestin
[04:16] <Hobbsee> g
[04:16] <Pici> Is Common Questions even relevant/updated anymore?
[04:16] <Hobbsee> the code of conduct isnt actually listed on ircresources
[04:17] <penguincentral> Hobbsee: yeah, that's what i found
[04:17] <jrib> gets linked to from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:17] <Seveas> sigh
[04:17] <Hobbsee> penguincentral: added.
[04:18] <Seveas> aoirthoir keeps vandalizing IrcGuidelines
[04:18] <Hobbsee> what, again?
[04:18] <Pici> Again?
[04:18] <Hobbsee> cant you lock the page?
[04:18] <penguincentral> ok
[04:18] <Seveas> 3rd time already
[04:18] <Hobbsee> ask matt east to lock the page, etc.
[04:18] <gnomefreak> can they do that?
[04:19] <Hobbsee> of course
[04:19] <gnomefreak> can he lock it for everyone except the council?
[04:19] <TheSheep> moin is pretty good at handling vandalizm :)
[04:19] <gnomefreak> or lock is lock for all
[04:20] <TheSheep> gnomefreak: he can put any access control list on it
[04:20] <gnomefreak> sweet
[04:21] <maxamillion> TheSheep has strong moin-fu
[04:21] <maxamillion> Hobbsee: one of the xubuntu ops
[04:21] <gnomefreak> xubuntu op
[04:21] <Hobbsee> ahhh
[04:21] <Pici> Its a sheep.
[04:21] <Seveas> Hobbsee, shoarma-to-be
[04:21] <Hobbsee> well, duh :)
[04:21] <Seveas> with garlic sauce
[04:22] <Seveas> I doubt he'll ever learn
[04:22] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: use the locking as a reason to throw the guy off teh wiki.
[04:22] <Seveas> having one this 3 times now
[04:23] <Pici> It should be locked anyway imo.
[04:23] <gnomefreak> cant we just have his account revoked?
[04:23] <gnomefreak> i know a bit extream
[04:23] <gnomefreak> extreme
[04:23] <Pici> We probably can't stop him from registering a new one.
[04:24] <gnomefreak> Pici: LP reserves the tight to accept or decline as they see fit
[04:24] <gnomefreak> s/tight/right
[04:25] <gnomefreak> being vindictive IMHO is a right to decline, now if he did something to help community would be different
[04:26] <Pici> Remind me, do you need an LP account to register for the Wiki?
[04:26] <gnomefreak> Pici: yes
[04:27] <gnomefreak> Seveas: under How to ask for help in the channel (in the guidelines) the link reads "this line is not on the ubuntu site" should this read something else? or was it always that
[04:29] <Seveas> weird
[04:30] <gnomefreak> Pici: iirc wiki uses your LP login info
[04:30] <Pici> gnomefreak: Make sense.
[05:03] <Pici> s/make/makes
[07:14] <ubotu> Pici called the ops in #ubuntu
[07:17] <Pici> sigh. I don't think I've seen anyone paste a strace into #ubuntu before.
[07:18] <Hobbsee> hah
[07:18] <Hobbsee> that's sad
[07:18] <TheSheep> might have been worse: complete core dump ;)
[07:25] <jdong> Pici: I've had someone not realize what "/exec -" means... and was using irssi as a shell...
[07:25] <jdong> Pici: "Oh look, irssi can work as a shell" "err.. yeah... we all see....."
[07:26] <Pici> jdong: yikes.
[07:26] <mc44>  /exec -o cat /dev/urandom
[07:27] <Pici>  /exec -o tail -f ~/irclogs/freenode/#ubuntu.log
[07:27] <Hobbsee> ew
[07:27] <jdong> infinite log recursion!
[07:27] <mc44> haha
[07:31] <superm1> Can someone provide me with a higher level of ops in #mythbuntu-dev so that I can set the topic?
[07:31] <nalioth> superm1: what happened to #ubuntu-mythtv-dev ?
[07:32] <superm1> nalioth, we have that too now?
[07:32] <superm1> we've got #ubuntu-mythtv
[07:32] <superm1> and #mythbuntu redirects to it
[07:32] <superm1> but we just got #mythbuntu-dev today
[07:32] <nalioth> alright.
[07:32] <nalioth> this needs to stop.
[07:32] <superm1> so we can do support and development in different channels
[07:32] <superm1> what does?
[07:32] <nalioth> y'all need to get your mythical selves together
[07:32] <nalioth> a dev came in yesterday and we set him/her up with #ubuntu-mythtv-dev
[07:33] <nalioth> right hand - left hand thing?
[07:33] <superm1> well i wasn't CC'ed on such request
[07:33] <nalioth> right.
[07:33] <superm1> let me double check with my people
[07:33] <superm1> sorry for the mistake here.
[07:33] <nalioth> no mistake here, just 'right hand doesn't know what the left hand does'
[07:34] <superm1> yeah, i would have expected something sent to our mailing list regarding filing such requests since i wasn't around
[07:35] <superm1> nalioth, do you know who it was?  i found out this morning that #mythbuntu-dev was formed, but didn't hear of #ubuntu-mythtv-dev at all
[07:58] <Seveas> nalioth, could you kill nealmcb's wikipedia cloak in favor of an ubuntu/member one?
[08:01] <nalioth> ok
[08:18] <nealmcb> Seveas: As I noted before, I want to switch to an ubuntu member cloak, and thanks to you, nalioth just contacted me.  I noticed that he has something that looks like a dual cloak - freenode staff and ubuntu member:   nalioth@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nalioth  Which made me wonder if I could retain my current wikipedia identification at the same time that I proudly wear an ubuntu cloak.  So he asked me to ask you... If it is a hassle never mind, but
[08:19] <Seveas> nalioth, I though only freenode/pdpc cloaks were available as dual cloaks
[08:19] <ubotu> r00723r0 called the ops in #ubuntu
[08:19] <Daviey> nalioth: ping
[08:19] <nalioth> hi Daviey 
[08:20] <Daviey> nalioth: got you in the other channel :)
[08:25] <Daviey> Any ubotu ops avaliable?
[08:25] <nalioth> Daviey: ubotu ops?
[08:25] <Seeker`> Daviey: trying to cause problems?
[08:25] <Daviey> yes sir
[08:25] <superm1> you mean people like Seveas ?
[08:25] <Daviey> I want LP bugs to appear in a different channel
[08:25] <Seveas> which one?
[08:25] <Daviey> currently in #* and want them in #*-dev
[08:26] <Daviey> Seeker`: #ubuntu-mythtv
[08:26] <Daviey> ^ Seveas 
[08:26] <Daviey> to #ubuntu-mythtv-dev
[08:26] <Seveas> Daviey, has the #mythbuntu-dev vs #ubuntu-mythtv-dev issue been cleared?
[08:26] <Daviey> yep
[08:26] <Daviey> #mythbuntu-dev fwd's to #ubuntu-mythtv-dev now
[08:27] <Seveas> @join #ubuntu-mythtv-dev
[08:27] <Seveas> @config channel #ubuntu-mythtv plugins.bugtracker.bugsnarfer
[08:27] <ubotu> True
[08:27] <Seveas> @config channel #ubuntu-mythtv plugins.bugtracker.bugsnarfer False
[08:27] <ubotu> OK
[08:27] <Seveas> @config channel #ubuntu-mythtv-dev plugins.bugtracker.bugsnarfer True
[08:27] <ubotu> OK
[08:27] <Seveas> done
[08:27] <Daviey> Thanks :)
[08:28] <Seveas> hmm, need to fix the bugreporter as well
[08:29] <Seveas> fixed
[08:29] <superm1> Daviey, we should turn him off as bug reporting in #ubuntu-mythtv, but only report in -dev.  he can still spit out bug numbers though in #ubuntu-mythtv i'd say
[08:30] <superm1> oh that's probably what Seveas just did :)
[08:31] <Daviey> superm1: SOUNDS GOOD
[08:31] <Daviey> damn caps lock
[09:11] <peanutb> hey. who can i talk to to get my ubuntu member cloak?
[09:12] <nalioth> peanutb: got a LP URL ?
[09:12] <peanutb> sure
[09:12] <peanutb> http://launchpad.net/~paul-bartell
[09:15] <nalioth> TA-DAAA
[09:16] <peanutb> thanks
[09:17] <nalioth> you're welcome :)
[09:19] <jpatrick> nalioth: this is about #kubuntu-es, I've contacted the only person who has op status thrice now and they're not responing, is there any way I could get op status there?
[09:21] <jpatrick> I contacted another member of staff and they told me to use memoserv, tried that and msging while he was there, nothing
[09:21] <nalioth> jpatrick: the owner was just here yesterday
[09:21] <jpatrick> nalioth: I tried msging him, he just ignores (or just isn't there)
[09:22] <nalioth> what do you need to do there?
[09:22] <jpatrick> just have a regular user (and admin of kubuntu-es) with op powers
[09:23] <nalioth> jpatrick: you have ops there
[09:25] <jpatrick> did you just add it?
[09:26] <nalioth> nope
[09:26] <jpatrick> odd, didn't see it before
[10:00] <gnomefreak> anyone seen kunix [n=kunix@231.Red-83-50-46.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net]  before?
[10:02] <jpatrick> I just know it's a spanish user
[10:03] <gnomefreak> anyone tell me what this means
[10:03] <gnomefreak> requested CTCP  PING from gnomefreak: 1191872602
[10:03] <gnomefreak> almost like a ddc send only messed it up?
[10:03] <mc44> it's a ping...
[10:03] <jpatrick> they were curious to know what program you're using for irc
[10:04] <gnomefreak> pings dont include numbers
[10:04] <mc44> yes, its the timestamp
[10:04] <nalioth> it's just a ping
[10:04] <nalioth> nothign to get worried about
[10:05] <gnomefreak> i didnt think it was but i dont rmemeber numbers (timestamp or not)
[10:36] <desertc> Greetings
[10:37] <nalioth> desertc: why the change from #ubuntu-tn to #ubuntu-tennessee ?
[10:37] <desertc> There was a country-wide mandate to change all state teams from a two letter abbreviation to a spelled-out name
[10:37] <nalioth> there was?
[10:37] <desertc> See: #ubuntu-ky who has the forwarding set up
[10:38] <nalioth> i thought we were using 2 character irc channel suffixes
[10:38] <mc44> what if tunisia wants a loco channel? :)
[10:39] <desertc> I am talking about the USA teams?
[10:39] <nalioth> desertc: as you don't have ops in #ubuntu-tn, we'll get it sorted
[10:40] <desertc> I see there is someone idling in #ubuntu-tn, and they are probably wondering why no one else is interested in the team.
[10:40] <nalioth> so advise them of the name change  :)
[10:40] <mc44> must be a fair few states that conflict with TLDs
[10:40] <desertc> Of course, but an automagical solution would prevent further confusion.
[10:41] <desertc> nalioth, Thank you for your assistance.
[10:58] <jussi01> exit
[10:58] <jussi01> gah, wrong window...
[11:10] <ubotu> bruenig called the ops in #ubuntu
[11:30] <peanutb> whats with +v?
[11:30] <peanutb> oh nevermind
[11:30] <PriceChild> Members of the ubuntu-irc ops team :)
[11:31] <jdong> peanutb: they do it to feel better about themselves
[11:31] <PriceChild> And woo you've got your cloak. (I'm slow)
[11:31] <PriceChild> jdong, I feel BIG
[11:31] <peanutb> yes'
[11:31] <peanutb> YAY I have a cloak
[11:31] <jdong> PriceChild: that's just a feel though :)
[11:31] <jdong> PriceChild: others probably won't feel it ;-)
[11:31] <PriceChild> peanutb, it just gets confusing otherwise... not knowing whether someone is lurking in a good or bad way for example.
[11:32] <peanutb> gtg. bus is leaving
[11:32] <peanutb> and ill loose my wifi in a sec
[11:32] <PriceChild> have fun :)
[11:32] <PriceChild> loooads of lurkers lately..
[11:33] <Pici> hm
[11:33] <PriceChild> Apex, can I help?
[11:33] <Seveas> hmm ues...
[11:33] <Pici> ues?
[11:33] <Seveas> s/u/y/
[11:34] <Seveas> To all who see this as one of the last lines in this channel: The IRC council reserves the right to remove idlers from the channel
[11:34] <PriceChild> *shifts seveas's right hand one key to the left*
[11:35] <ubotu> astro76 called the ops in #ubuntu
[11:35] <PriceChild> 8-)
[11:35] <Seveas> haha
[11:35] <mc44> :P
[11:36] <PriceChild> mc44, bad autorejoin! :)
[11:36] <mc44> PriceChild: blame Seveas  ;)
[11:36] <jdong> LOL
[11:36] <PriceChild> Seveas, that was "cheshirecat" who i believe used to have +v in here.... probably wrong
[11:36] <jdong> I'm still alive!
[11:36] <Seveas> ah
[11:36] <jdong> uh oh
[11:36] <Pici> ahh
[11:36] <mc44> jdong: you survived the purge!
[11:36] <jdong> bad statement
[11:36] <mc44> oh, no you didn't :(
[11:36] <jdong> silly brits
[11:37] <PriceChild> gosh darn it!
[11:37] <PriceChild> jolly bad show jdong! what what.
[11:37] <jdong> :)
[11:38] <jdong> Pici: pricey doesn't show his monocle to any random guy.
[11:41] <mc44> the kickings will continue until morale improves
[11:41] <PriceChild> Hmmm what about that Daviey one... always seemed a little shifty to me.
[11:43] <PriceChild> He'll tell us that when he comes back then and we'll feel sorry for him :/
[12:24] <LjL> mc44: oh look, my morale is so low that even kicking you wouldn't do a thing
[12:25] <rob> LjL, you can kick me, I like it.
[12:25] <LjL> well, not that mc44 doesn't
[12:26] <mc44> I do not!
[12:26] <PriceChild> secretly
[12:27] <LjL> PriceChild: uhm, it can't be secret, as he just said it.
[12:27] <LjL> oh wait, you meant to say he secretly *does*?
[12:27] <PriceChild> yes :)
[12:27] <LjL> i thought that was the common knowledge.