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open-glI have windows xp installed on my computer and I want to put in the ubuntu disk to install on the hard drive. I also want it to delete windows and everything else such as everything on the regedit and all files on the computer. Will just installing ubuntu to the computer do this.01:30
dendrobatesopen-gl: you will have the option to use the entire HD during the install.  That will remove windows.01:32
open-glok cool01:33
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diamondjedI am connecting to my Ubuntu box via VNC by turing on Remote Desktop.  Can I change the port it is listening on?01:54
nealmcbyes02:04
nealmcbdiamondjed: but I'm not sure offhand what the options are....  man page?02:04
nealmcband I'm headed out now...02:05
diamondjednealmcb: did you leave, sorry I was away.  I am not sure what you mean by man page.  I used ubuntu desktop's GUI Preferences>Remote Login02:30
open-glwhat is the defualt username for ubuntu02:32
open-gli just installed it on my computer and its asking for a username02:32
kgoetzopen-gl: whatever you put in during install02:35
open-gli left it as it is02:35
kgoetzwhatever your first name is then02:35
open-gli get a incorrect username or password02:36
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technoid_Whats the biggest problems most ppl find running a ubuntu server?03:51
DessanHmm that's a hard question...03:58
Dessantechnoid_, I suppose the hardest problems I've had with an ubuntu server is system links being in the right place on my game server. Other than that nothing really that is hard.04:00
technoid_I am trying to decide what distro to load on a new P3 server04:08
DessanWhats the use going to be?04:09
technoid_probably a LAMP server04:09
DessanThen you won't run into any problems.04:10
technoid_okay, thanks04:10
DessanNo problem.04:10
technoid_i like the ease of updating I have with Ubuntu on my desktop04:11
technoid_so having that same ease on my server would be nice04:11
DessanIt is. As long as your not doing crazy things or certain web control panels etc can break during updates if they arn't ready etc.04:14
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kgoetzanyone know what was happening wwith th ubuntu directory server conncept?05:36
Burgundaviakgoetz: not much05:37
Burgundaviabut I need to run05:37
Burgundaviaback in about 3 hours, if you want to chat more then05:37
kgoetzBurgundavia: ok, i'll try and make it on then05:38
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Burgundaviakgoetz: you still around?08:58
kgoetzBurgundavia: yeah. wb09:00
Burgundaviawhat were you questions about the server stuff?09:01
kgoetzwhat sort of works been happening on Ldap+services integration in ubuntu, and is there a 'proper way' to ask/comment on it09:01
Burgundaviaah09:04
Burgundaviaright09:04
Burgundaviaso for the client side, there has been the auth-client-config work09:04
Burgundaviaon the server side, not much for gutsy, as there really hasn;t been a community team around it and the Canonical one only really got started during the gutsy cycle09:04
kgoetzok, its the server side i'm intereseted in - i'm strugging with it atm ;)09:05
Burgundaviayep, LDAP sucks09:05
Burgundaviawhat part are you struggling with?09:05
kgoetzauthenticating to ldap. think i've made a royal mess of the configs. i can (what i assume is) anon bind, but not bind /as/ someone09:06
kgoetzso i cant edit the server with ldapvi09:06
Burgundaviaauth against is made easier via the auth-client-config09:07
Burgundaviacan you connect to your ldap server?09:07
kgoetzi can ssh to teh server running it, is that the question?09:08
Burgundaviano, can you connect to the actual LDAP server?09:09
kgoetzyes09:09
Burgundaviayou can login as the admin user?09:10
kgoetzno, i havent managed09:10
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Burgundaviaok, ugh09:11
Burgundaviait has been so long since I had to deal with LDAP09:11
kgoetzhm. half your luck :|09:18
kgoetzBurgundavia: is there currently a group for the ldap+serices integration?09:23
Burgundaviaubuntu-directory09:23
kgoetzheh. i remembered. impressive09:23
kgoetzBurgundavia: is that the community team? does it work with the canonical one somehow? i note that the list is ... "not heavily used"09:26
Burgundaviathat is the community one09:26
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zobbo#j #puppet01:18
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Tig|Hi,  I have a question about setting up a sitewide procmail filter on Ubuntu server with Postfix,  what I want to achieve is that all incoming messages are filtered for a string in the subject and if this matches then to send them all to a different address without storing a copy,  the reason it has to be sitewide is that it has to work on users without home directories that only exist as aliases :)  Any thoughts or suggestions? Apologies if this is not03:36
Tig|the right place to ask.03:36
ivokswell, amavis is great tool for general mangling with mail (antivirus, antispam policies, etc...)03:38
Tig|thanks I will have a look03:38
ivoksamong other things, it's possible to setup what you want03:38
ivoksamavis is overkill for that what you want03:38
ivoksbut, if you're planing email server, amavis is great thing for postfix03:39
Tig|yeah looking at amavis it appears to be a really sledgehammer :)03:39
Tig|it is actually for a Request Tracker server,  so it is not really doing general mail duties,  it has mail forwarded to it from a different server which does all the mail scanning etc,  the problem is that I can't do the filtering there as it is a hosted exchange box and we have limited access to it03:41
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ivoksif you only want procmail, setup /etc/procmailrc03:42
ivoksand configure postfix to deliver mail with procmail03:43
ivoksTig|: http://www.postfix.org/faq.html#procmail03:43
ivoksdon't miss 'However, procmail is a pig'03:44
ivoks:D03:44
Tig|ivoks: I got that far but it does not seem to work :)  I might be messing up the procmailrc file part,  do I have to tell procmail / postfix where to find the procmailrc file?03:45
Tig|I got postfix to use procmail with a quick dpkg-reconfigure :)03:45
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ivoksno, that's procmail's job03:47
ivoksprocmail by default reads /etc/procmailrc first03:47
ivoksthen $HOME/.procmailrc03:47
Tig|thanks :)  I think that has probably nailed the issue down to my procmailrc file then :) I will read up on that and make sure it is correctly formatted :)  thanks for your help :)03:48
ivoksit also read files in /etc/procmailrcs/03:48
ivoksnp03:49
_rubengeneral question: ubuntu-server uses the same install/update repositories as ubuntu-desktop, right? so no additional q&a testing, for example?03:58
ScottK_ruben: Same repositories, but different mix of packages.04:00
ScottKThe ubuntu-server mix of packages does get testing as such.04:00
_rubendoes this apply to the base install or also for packages like asterisk (random example)04:01
Nafallohow to get procmail to move stuff around in an existant maildir?04:02
sommerNafallo: I'm not sure exactly what you need, but this article is what I refer to when using procmail: http://www.linux-mag.com/id/826/04:05
sommermaybe it'll help04:06
mralphabet_ruben: the person that maintains the asterisk package is also is responsible for testing.04:06
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Nafallothanks sommer04:06
sommernp04:06
ScottK_ruben: The base install by design, but many of us run developmental versions of Ubuntu server and test other stuff too.04:06
Tig|I don't suppose anyone could look at this two line procmailrc and tell me what blindingly obvious thing I have missed? :)04:12
Tig|* ^subject:*foobar.com .*04:14
Tig|! firstline@foo.foobar.com04:14
nijabamvo: compiz just crashed( quit) with no reason....  Any place I can find a meaningfull log ?04:16
Tig|attempting to snag anything with foobar.com in the subject and forward it to that e-mail address04:16
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ivoks^Subject:.*foobar.com.*04:18
Tig|thanks :)  will try that :)04:18
Tig|so I don't need that first * ?04:19
ivoks.* means - any char, any number of times04:19
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tepsipakkihmm, I have problems with lib{nss,pam}-ldap in gutsy, and the merged config they have.. I have to downgrade to previous packages to be able to log in04:29
tepsipakkiand can't find out why04:30
sorenjdstrand: ^^04:30
tepsipakkiit could be a configuration problem, but I've been very careful with the merging of our settings to ldap.conf :/04:31
mathiaztepsipakki: what's the problem ?04:32
tepsipakkimathiaz: well, ldap not working :)04:32
tepsipakkiclient04:32
tepsipakkiI can put the ldap.conf somewhere if it helps in debugging this04:33
mathiaztepsipakki: that would help .04:33
tepsipakkiok, http://users.tkk.fi/~tjaalton/ldap.conf04:37
tepsipakkinote that pam_require_fqdn and pam_require_host_group is our own feature (sent upstream, but they don't seem interested :/)04:37
tepsipakkihas worked for three years now04:37
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tepsipakkihave to run, we can debug it later04:47
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Tig|hi, can someone confirm that postfix uses procmail to deliver to local aliases (if you set it up) or does it use it's own delivery method?05:54
lamontTig|: if you tell it to05:56
Tig|I have :  mailbox_command = procmail -a "$EXTENSION"05:57
lamontby default, if postfix is unpacked before postfix was configured (you installed it first), then the default is to use it.  postconf mailbox_command will tell you.05:57
lamontthat'd be procmail05:57
Tig|specified in main.cf but do I need anything else?05:57
lamontno05:57
Tig|blast,  it is just not firing05:57
Tig|it does not even want to log to help debug05:58
lamontdid you restart postfix after changing that?05:58
lamontor at least /etc/init.d/postfix reload05:59
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ivokscheck /var/log/mail.log06:06
ivoksthere should be delivered to procmail06:06
ivoksor something like that...06:06
Tig|there is nothing about procmail in there06:14
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elliotjhugHi all, I asked a question yesterday with regards to VirtualHost issues in apache2, I used this config file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39904/, can anyone point my in directions of problems? Thanks06:23
mralphabetelliotjhug: and the error you get?06:24
elliotjhugNot Found The requested URL / was not found on this server.06:25
elliotjhugmralphabet: I also get NameVirtualHost 91.84.51.237:0 has no VirtualHosts when I reload06:27
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mralphabetelliotjhug: did you copy your config over from an older machine? or create new?06:28
elliotjhugmralphabet: Created new06:28
mralphabethmm06:30
mralphabetelliotjhug: does error.log give you any clues?06:32
mralphabetelliotjhug: I'm looking at the config06:32
elliotjhugmralphabet: I'll take a look 1 mo06:33
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mralphabetelliotjhug: did you put that config file in /etc/apache2/sites-available/ and sites-enabled?06:33
elliotjhugmralphabet: lots of  [client 71.10.***.***]  File does not exist: /htdocs06:34
elliotjhugmralphabet: yeah, the files of symlinked06:34
elliotjhug*are symlinked06:34
mralphabetDocumentRoot /var/pk-productions  <- you are missing trailing slash06:35
mralphabetthe example config has a trailing slash06:35
mralphabet        DocumentRoot /var/www/06:35
elliotjhugmralphabet: yeah, I fixed that shortly after. Error continues06:36
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sommerelliotjhug: what happens if you remove NameVirtualHost 91.84.51.237 from the second file?06:45
mralphabetelliotjhug: can you try <VirtualHost 91.84.51.237:80> ?06:45
elliotjhugmralphabet: I'll try :80, then I'll try yours sommer06:48
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elliotjhugmralphabet: same error with your fix, I'll undo it because it also adds some warns about adding ports to urls.06:52
elliotjhugsommer: has totally no effect either06:53
sommerelliotjhug: does the host have more than one IP?07:06
sommeralso does the www-data user have permissions to read those directories?07:07
sommeranother thing to double check anyway.07:07
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nealmcblamont: You're in Colorado? Are you coming to the colorado loco gutsy release party :-)07:23
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elliotjhugsommer, sorry for slow response, My machine only has 1 IP address unfortunately. I'll check the www-data thing07:31
mralphabetif it only has one IP, use *07:32
mralphabetNameVirtualHost *07:32
mralphabet<VirtualHost *>07:32
elliotjhugmralphabet: cool, I'll try that07:32
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elliotjhugmralphabet: You truly rock, you know that?07:38
elliotjhugmralphabet: Working really well now :)07:38
mralphabetworks?07:38
mralphabetawesome07:38
elliotjhugthanks07:39
mralphabetsorry I didn't point that out earlier . .. I don't do any multi ip hosting so I wasn't familiar with the setup07:40
elliotjhugmralphabet: Np, I've been trying various ways to get these domains to work for literally months. You're the first person who's fixed it07:40
mralphabetanyway, glad it works07:42
elliotjhugmralphabet: Thanks again, I'll probably keep lurking for a bit07:42
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leonelhttp://www.postgresql.org/about/news.872  <-- let's hope it can make it  to hardy08:33
leonelor...08:33
leonelcan we make it happen ?08:33
sommershould that be added to the HardyIdeaPool page?08:39
ScottKsoren: Does Bug #139251 make sense to you?08:45
ubotuLaunchpad bug 139251 in mediawiki1.10 "package mediawiki1.10 1.10.1-1 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13925108:45
ScottKleonel: What I'd do is AFTER Gutsy is released, ask pitti what you can do with testing to help get it into Hardy.08:47
mathiazScottK: the attached debdiff looks wrong.08:49
mathiazScottK: I haven't looked at the actual problem.08:49
ScottKmathiaz: Any chance you could take a look at it?08:49
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ScottKIt'd be $BAD to release with that package actually uninstallable.08:50
mathiazScottK: the debdiff change is to remove 'set -e', which is an option for shell script to stop execution if one of the command/statement fails.08:52
ScottKRight, that doesn't sound like the right approach to me either.08:52
mathiazScottK: So the debdiff just avoids stoping the postinst script.08:52
sorenScottK: Yes, I think I fixed it already.08:52
sorenScottK: Hang on.08:53
sorenScottK: The bug was in mediawiki0.10.config.08:53
sorenScottK: Yeah, it should just be closed. The recent sync fixed it.08:54
ScottKsoren: Thanks.08:54
sorenI'll close it.08:54
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nnyI am working on a howto for asterisk and zaptel on 6.06 server, anyone know where I can tell modprobe to load the zaptel modules at boot?09:09
ivoks /etc/modules09:10
nnythanks09:11
nnyfunny thing is the init.d script installed by make config is useless for unloading modules, but the one installed by the zaptel package (which is an older version in repos) does09:14
nnygoing to try and create repos for the packages here for installs, if I can do it properly and securely, may allow people to use it09:14
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osmosisanyone know why  the package   vim-full   wants to install a bunch of gnome stuff ?10:35
mathiazosmosis: vim-full is compiled with all the features enabled (and thus with gnome support)10:36
osmosismathiaz: vim-python is the same though.10:36
osmosiswell, not exactly the same, but it wants to install a bunch of stuff that shouldnt seem necessary.10:36
mathiazosmosis: vim-python is compiled with python support. What shouldn't be necessary ?10:37
ScottKsoren: I'm noticing Bug #150698 and wondering if you ever got any clarification on the vmware situation.10:37
ubotuLaunchpad bug 150698 in vmware-player "vmware broken after upgrade" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/15069810:37
osmosismathiaz:   http://dpaste.com/21809/10:38
mathiazScottK: that's probably because it hasn't installed the kernel modules.10:38
sorenScottK: No, I actually didn't. I'll check up on it.10:38
osmosismathiaz: why would it install  lib cairo and libpango and libxinerama   for  vim-python ?10:38
ScottKmathiaz: Because they don't (apparently) actually exist for Gutsy.10:39
ScottKsoren: Thanks.10:39
mathiazScottK: correct. I think they were in the commercial repostory for feisty.10:39
sorenosmosis: From vim-python's description:10:40
sorenThis package contains a version of vim compiled with Python scripting support and the GTK2 GUI.10:40
ScottKmathiaz: That's for vmware-server.10:40
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osmosissoren: yuck.10:40
ScottKA Universe package requiring something from Commerical would be just wrong.10:41
sorenosmosis: What do you need?10:41
osmosissoren: so i guess there is no  vim-python-cli  package ?10:41
osmosissoren: maybe i just need to enable syntax highlighting10:41
mathiazScottK: you're probably right. I'm using vmware-server.10:41
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mathiazosmosis: did you try the package vim ?10:42
sorenosmosis: What do you need exactly?10:42
osmosis/etc/vim/vimrc  , syntax on   does the trick.  python syntax highlighting works now.10:43
sorenosmosis: Sure. python-vim is not about syntax hilighting python at all.10:55
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