[01:30] <open-gl> I have windows xp installed on my computer and I want to put in the ubuntu disk to install on the hard drive. I also want it to delete windows and everything else such as everything on the regedit and all files on the computer. Will just installing ubuntu to the computer do this.
[01:32] <dendrobates> open-gl: you will have the option to use the entire HD during the install.  That will remove windows.
[01:33] <open-gl> ok cool
[01:54] <diamondjed> I am connecting to my Ubuntu box via VNC by turing on Remote Desktop.  Can I change the port it is listening on?
[02:04] <nealmcb> yes
[02:04] <nealmcb> diamondjed: but I'm not sure offhand what the options are....  man page?
[02:05] <nealmcb> and I'm headed out now...
[02:30] <diamondjed> nealmcb: did you leave, sorry I was away.  I am not sure what you mean by man page.  I used ubuntu desktop's GUI Preferences>Remote Login
[02:32] <open-gl> what is the defualt username for ubuntu
[02:32] <open-gl> i just installed it on my computer and its asking for a username
[02:35] <kgoetz> open-gl: whatever you put in during install
[02:35] <open-gl> i left it as it is
[02:35] <kgoetz> whatever your first name is then
[02:36] <open-gl> i get a incorrect username or password
[03:51] <technoid_> Whats the biggest problems most ppl find running a ubuntu server?
[03:58] <Dessan> Hmm that's a hard question...
[04:00] <Dessan> technoid_, I suppose the hardest problems I've had with an ubuntu server is system links being in the right place on my game server. Other than that nothing really that is hard.
[04:08] <technoid_> I am trying to decide what distro to load on a new P3 server
[04:09] <Dessan> Whats the use going to be?
[04:09] <technoid_> probably a LAMP server
[04:10] <Dessan> Then you won't run into any problems.
[04:10] <technoid_> okay, thanks
[04:10] <Dessan> No problem.
[04:11] <technoid_> i like the ease of updating I have with Ubuntu on my desktop
[04:11] <technoid_> so having that same ease on my server would be nice
[04:14] <Dessan> It is. As long as your not doing crazy things or certain web control panels etc can break during updates if they arn't ready etc.
[05:36] <kgoetz> anyone know what was happening wwith th ubuntu directory server conncept?
[05:37] <Burgundavia> kgoetz: not much
[05:37] <Burgundavia> but I need to run
[05:37] <Burgundavia> back in about 3 hours, if you want to chat more then
[05:38] <kgoetz> Burgundavia: ok, i'll try and make it on then
[08:58] <Burgundavia> kgoetz: you still around?
[09:00] <kgoetz> Burgundavia: yeah. wb
[09:01] <Burgundavia> what were you questions about the server stuff?
[09:01] <kgoetz> what sort of works been happening on Ldap+services integration in ubuntu, and is there a 'proper way' to ask/comment on it
[09:04] <Burgundavia> ah
[09:04] <Burgundavia> right
[09:04] <Burgundavia> so for the client side, there has been the auth-client-config work
[09:04] <Burgundavia> on the server side, not much for gutsy, as there really hasn;t been a community team around it and the Canonical one only really got started during the gutsy cycle
[09:05] <kgoetz> ok, its the server side i'm intereseted in - i'm strugging with it atm ;)
[09:05] <Burgundavia> yep, LDAP sucks
[09:05] <Burgundavia> what part are you struggling with?
[09:06] <kgoetz> authenticating to ldap. think i've made a royal mess of the configs. i can (what i assume is) anon bind, but not bind /as/ someone
[09:06] <kgoetz> so i cant edit the server with ldapvi
[09:07] <Burgundavia> auth against is made easier via the auth-client-config
[09:07] <Burgundavia> can you connect to your ldap server?
[09:08] <kgoetz> i can ssh to teh server running it, is that the question?
[09:09] <Burgundavia> no, can you connect to the actual LDAP server?
[09:09] <kgoetz> yes
[09:10] <Burgundavia> you can login as the admin user?
[09:10] <kgoetz> no, i havent managed
[09:11] <Burgundavia> ok, ugh
[09:11] <Burgundavia> it has been so long since I had to deal with LDAP
[09:18] <kgoetz> hm. half your luck :|
[09:23] <kgoetz> Burgundavia: is there currently a group for the ldap+serices integration?
[09:23] <Burgundavia> ubuntu-directory
[09:23] <kgoetz> heh. i remembered. impressive
[09:26] <kgoetz> Burgundavia: is that the community team? does it work with the canonical one somehow? i note that the list is ... "not heavily used"
[09:26] <Burgundavia> that is the community one
[01:18] <zobbo> #j #puppet
[03:36] <Tig|> Hi,  I have a question about setting up a sitewide procmail filter on Ubuntu server with Postfix,  what I want to achieve is that all incoming messages are filtered for a string in the subject and if this matches then to send them all to a different address without storing a copy,  the reason it has to be sitewide is that it has to work on users without home directories that only exist as aliases :)  Any thoughts or suggestions? Apologies if this is not
[03:36] <Tig|> the right place to ask.
[03:38] <ivoks> well, amavis is great tool for general mangling with mail (antivirus, antispam policies, etc...)
[03:38] <Tig|> thanks I will have a look
[03:38] <ivoks> among other things, it's possible to setup what you want
[03:38] <ivoks> amavis is overkill for that what you want
[03:39] <ivoks> but, if you're planing email server, amavis is great thing for postfix
[03:39] <Tig|> yeah looking at amavis it appears to be a really sledgehammer :)
[03:41] <Tig|> it is actually for a Request Tracker server,  so it is not really doing general mail duties,  it has mail forwarded to it from a different server which does all the mail scanning etc,  the problem is that I can't do the filtering there as it is a hosted exchange box and we have limited access to it
[03:42] <ivoks> if you only want procmail, setup /etc/procmailrc
[03:43] <ivoks> and configure postfix to deliver mail with procmail
[03:43] <ivoks> Tig|: http://www.postfix.org/faq.html#procmail
[03:44] <ivoks> don't miss 'However, procmail is a pig'
[03:44] <ivoks> :D
[03:45] <Tig|> ivoks: I got that far but it does not seem to work :)  I might be messing up the procmailrc file part,  do I have to tell procmail / postfix where to find the procmailrc file?
[03:45] <Tig|> I got postfix to use procmail with a quick dpkg-reconfigure :)
[03:47] <ivoks> no, that's procmail's job
[03:47] <ivoks> procmail by default reads /etc/procmailrc first
[03:47] <ivoks> then $HOME/.procmailrc
[03:48] <Tig|> thanks :)  I think that has probably nailed the issue down to my procmailrc file then :) I will read up on that and make sure it is correctly formatted :)  thanks for your help :)
[03:48] <ivoks> it also read files in /etc/procmailrcs/
[03:49] <ivoks> np
[03:58] <_ruben> general question: ubuntu-server uses the same install/update repositories as ubuntu-desktop, right? so no additional q&a testing, for example?
[04:00] <ScottK> _ruben: Same repositories, but different mix of packages.
[04:00] <ScottK> The ubuntu-server mix of packages does get testing as such.
[04:01] <_ruben> does this apply to the base install or also for packages like asterisk (random example)
[04:02] <Nafallo> how to get procmail to move stuff around in an existant maildir?
[04:05] <sommer> Nafallo: I'm not sure exactly what you need, but this article is what I refer to when using procmail: http://www.linux-mag.com/id/826/
[04:06] <sommer> maybe it'll help
[04:06] <mralphabet> _ruben: the person that maintains the asterisk package is also is responsible for testing.
[04:06] <Nafallo> thanks sommer
[04:06] <sommer> np
[04:06] <ScottK> _ruben: The base install by design, but many of us run developmental versions of Ubuntu server and test other stuff too.
[04:12] <Tig|> I don't suppose anyone could look at this two line procmailrc and tell me what blindingly obvious thing I have missed? :)
[04:14] <Tig|> * ^subject:*foobar.com .*
[04:14] <Tig|> ! firstline@foo.foobar.com
[04:16] <nijaba> mvo: compiz just crashed( quit) with no reason....  Any place I can find a meaningfull log ?
[04:16] <Tig|> attempting to snag anything with foobar.com in the subject and forward it to that e-mail address
[04:18] <ivoks> ^Subject:.*foobar.com.*
[04:18] <Tig|> thanks :)  will try that :)
[04:19] <Tig|> so I don't need that first * ?
[04:19] <ivoks> .* means - any char, any number of times
[04:29] <tepsipakki> hmm, I have problems with lib{nss,pam}-ldap in gutsy, and the merged config they have.. I have to downgrade to previous packages to be able to log in
[04:30] <tepsipakki> and can't find out why
[04:30] <soren> jdstrand: ^^
[04:31] <tepsipakki> it could be a configuration problem, but I've been very careful with the merging of our settings to ldap.conf :/
[04:32] <mathiaz> tepsipakki: what's the problem ?
[04:32] <tepsipakki> mathiaz: well, ldap not working :)
[04:32] <tepsipakki> client
[04:33] <tepsipakki> I can put the ldap.conf somewhere if it helps in debugging this
[04:33] <mathiaz> tepsipakki: that would help .
[04:37] <tepsipakki> ok, http://users.tkk.fi/~tjaalton/ldap.conf
[04:37] <tepsipakki> note that pam_require_fqdn and pam_require_host_group is our own feature (sent upstream, but they don't seem interested :/)
[04:37] <tepsipakki> has worked for three years now
[04:47] <tepsipakki> have to run, we can debug it later
[05:54] <Tig|> hi, can someone confirm that postfix uses procmail to deliver to local aliases (if you set it up) or does it use it's own delivery method?
[05:56] <lamont> Tig|: if you tell it to
[05:57] <Tig|> I have :  mailbox_command = procmail -a "$EXTENSION"
[05:57] <lamont> by default, if postfix is unpacked before postfix was configured (you installed it first), then the default is to use it.  postconf mailbox_command will tell you.
[05:57] <lamont> that'd be procmail
[05:57] <Tig|> specified in main.cf but do I need anything else?
[05:57] <lamont> no
[05:57] <Tig|> blast,  it is just not firing
[05:58] <Tig|> it does not even want to log to help debug
[05:58] <lamont> did you restart postfix after changing that?
[05:59] <lamont> or at least /etc/init.d/postfix reload
[05:59] <Tig|> yep :(
[06:06] <ivoks> check /var/log/mail.log
[06:06] <ivoks> there should be delivered to procmail
[06:06] <ivoks> or something like that...
[06:14] <Tig|> there is nothing about procmail in there
[06:23] <elliotjhug> Hi all, I asked a question yesterday with regards to VirtualHost issues in apache2, I used this config file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39904/, can anyone point my in directions of problems? Thanks
[06:24] <mralphabet> elliotjhug: and the error you get?
[06:25] <elliotjhug> Not Found The requested URL / was not found on this server.
[06:27] <elliotjhug> mralphabet: I also get NameVirtualHost 91.84.51.237:0 has no VirtualHosts when I reload
[06:28] <mralphabet> elliotjhug: did you copy your config over from an older machine? or create new?
[06:28] <elliotjhug> mralphabet: Created new
[06:30] <mralphabet> hmm
[06:32] <mralphabet> elliotjhug: does error.log give you any clues?
[06:32] <mralphabet> elliotjhug: I'm looking at the config
[06:33] <elliotjhug> mralphabet: I'll take a look 1 mo
[06:33] <mralphabet> elliotjhug: did you put that config file in /etc/apache2/sites-available/ and sites-enabled?
[06:34] <elliotjhug> mralphabet: lots of  [client 71.10.***.***]  File does not exist: /htdocs
[06:34] <elliotjhug> mralphabet: yeah, the files of symlinked
[06:34] <elliotjhug> *are symlinked
[06:35] <mralphabet> DocumentRoot /var/pk-productions  <- you are missing trailing slash
[06:35] <mralphabet> the example config has a trailing slash
[06:35] <mralphabet>         DocumentRoot /var/www/
[06:36] <elliotjhug> mralphabet: yeah, I fixed that shortly after. Error continues
[06:45] <sommer> elliotjhug: what happens if you remove NameVirtualHost 91.84.51.237 from the second file?
[06:45] <mralphabet> elliotjhug: can you try <VirtualHost 91.84.51.237:80> ?
[06:48] <elliotjhug> mralphabet: I'll try :80, then I'll try yours sommer
[06:52] <elliotjhug> mralphabet: same error with your fix, I'll undo it because it also adds some warns about adding ports to urls.
[06:53] <elliotjhug> sommer: has totally no effect either
[07:06] <sommer> elliotjhug: does the host have more than one IP?
[07:07] <sommer> also does the www-data user have permissions to read those directories?
[07:07] <sommer> another thing to double check anyway.
[07:23] <nealmcb> lamont: You're in Colorado? Are you coming to the colorado loco gutsy release party :-)
[07:31] <elliotjhug> sommer, sorry for slow response, My machine only has 1 IP address unfortunately. I'll check the www-data thing
[07:32] <mralphabet> if it only has one IP, use *
[07:32] <mralphabet> NameVirtualHost *
[07:32] <mralphabet> <VirtualHost *>
[07:32] <elliotjhug> mralphabet: cool, I'll try that
[07:38] <elliotjhug> mralphabet: You truly rock, you know that?
[07:38] <elliotjhug> mralphabet: Working really well now :)
[07:38] <mralphabet> works?
[07:38] <mralphabet> awesome
[07:39] <elliotjhug> thanks
[07:40] <mralphabet> sorry I didn't point that out earlier . .. I don't do any multi ip hosting so I wasn't familiar with the setup
[07:40] <elliotjhug> mralphabet: Np, I've been trying various ways to get these domains to work for literally months. You're the first person who's fixed it
[07:42] <mralphabet> anyway, glad it works
[07:42] <elliotjhug> mralphabet: Thanks again, I'll probably keep lurking for a bit
[08:33] <leonel> http://www.postgresql.org/about/news.872  <-- let's hope it can make it  to hardy
[08:33] <leonel> or...
[08:33] <leonel> can we make it happen ?
[08:39] <sommer> should that be added to the HardyIdeaPool page?
[08:45] <ScottK> soren: Does Bug #139251 make sense to you?
[08:45] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 139251 in mediawiki1.10 "package mediawiki1.10 1.10.1-1 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139251
[08:47] <ScottK> leonel: What I'd do is AFTER Gutsy is released, ask pitti what you can do with testing to help get it into Hardy.
[08:49] <mathiaz> ScottK: the attached debdiff looks wrong.
[08:49] <mathiaz> ScottK: I haven't looked at the actual problem.
[08:49] <ScottK> mathiaz: Any chance you could take a look at it?
[08:50] <ScottK> It'd be $BAD to release with that package actually uninstallable.
[08:52] <mathiaz> ScottK: the debdiff change is to remove 'set -e', which is an option for shell script to stop execution if one of the command/statement fails.
[08:52] <ScottK> Right, that doesn't sound like the right approach to me either.
[08:52] <mathiaz> ScottK: So the debdiff just avoids stoping the postinst script.
[08:52] <soren> ScottK: Yes, I think I fixed it already.
[08:53] <soren> ScottK: Hang on.
[08:53] <soren> ScottK: The bug was in mediawiki0.10.config.
[08:54] <soren> ScottK: Yeah, it should just be closed. The recent sync fixed it.
[08:54] <ScottK> soren: Thanks.
[08:54] <soren> I'll close it.
[09:09] <nny> I am working on a howto for asterisk and zaptel on 6.06 server, anyone know where I can tell modprobe to load the zaptel modules at boot?
[09:10] <ivoks>  /etc/modules
[09:11] <nny> thanks
[09:14] <nny> funny thing is the init.d script installed by make config is useless for unloading modules, but the one installed by the zaptel package (which is an older version in repos) does
[09:14] <nny> going to try and create repos for the packages here for installs, if I can do it properly and securely, may allow people to use it
[10:35] <osmosis> anyone know why  the package   vim-full   wants to install a bunch of gnome stuff ?
[10:36] <mathiaz> osmosis: vim-full is compiled with all the features enabled (and thus with gnome support)
[10:36] <osmosis> mathiaz: vim-python is the same though.
[10:36] <osmosis> well, not exactly the same, but it wants to install a bunch of stuff that shouldnt seem necessary.
[10:37] <mathiaz> osmosis: vim-python is compiled with python support. What shouldn't be necessary ?
[10:37] <ScottK> soren: I'm noticing Bug #150698 and wondering if you ever got any clarification on the vmware situation.
[10:37] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 150698 in vmware-player "vmware broken after upgrade" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/150698
[10:38] <osmosis> mathiaz:   http://dpaste.com/21809/
[10:38] <mathiaz> ScottK: that's probably because it hasn't installed the kernel modules.
[10:38] <soren> ScottK: No, I actually didn't. I'll check up on it.
[10:38] <osmosis> mathiaz: why would it install  lib cairo and libpango and libxinerama   for  vim-python ?
[10:39] <ScottK> mathiaz: Because they don't (apparently) actually exist for Gutsy.
[10:39] <ScottK> soren: Thanks.
[10:39] <mathiaz> ScottK: correct. I think they were in the commercial repostory for feisty.
[10:40] <soren> osmosis: From vim-python's description:
[10:40] <soren> This package contains a version of vim compiled with Python scripting support and the GTK2 GUI.
[10:40] <ScottK> mathiaz: That's for vmware-server.
[10:40] <osmosis> soren: yuck.
[10:41] <ScottK> A Universe package requiring something from Commerical would be just wrong.
[10:41] <soren> osmosis: What do you need?
[10:41] <osmosis> soren: so i guess there is no  vim-python-cli  package ?
[10:41] <osmosis> soren: maybe i just need to enable syntax highlighting
[10:41] <mathiaz> ScottK: you're probably right. I'm using vmware-server.
[10:42] <mathiaz> osmosis: did you try the package vim ?
[10:42] <soren> osmosis: What do you need exactly?
[10:43] <osmosis> /etc/vim/vimrc  , syntax on   does the trick.  python syntax highlighting works now.
[10:55] <soren> osmosis: Sure. python-vim is not about syntax hilighting python at all.