| lassegul | kwwii: ill pick up the concept ideas and put them to Hardy/Alternate where each concept has its own page. | 12:29 |
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| lassegul | kwwii: but some stuff is about how to organize the default desktop in hardy, and adding another colour option to the gtkcolourchooser etc. what do i do with them? | 12:30 |
| kwwii | ouch, yeah...looking at those pages makes it hard to decide | 12:31 |
| kwwii | might be best to put the ideas into another page, as they do not fit what is going to be default (nothing I saw so far) | 12:32 |
| kwwii | nasty situation | 12:32 |
| kwwii | probably should have put some notice somewhere that the direction for Hardy is still coming | 12:33 |
| kwwii | I kinda did that tonight though | 12:33 |
| lassegul | I like this one /!\ | 12:33 |
| kwwii | all the concept art stuff seems to be ready to move to alternate | 12:34 |
| kwwii | as it does not really fit the information that I have not posted yet :p | 12:34 |
| lassegul | ive not seen this information | 12:34 |
| lassegul | this could spare me some work | 12:34 |
| kwwii | lol, no because I have not posted it | 12:34 |
| kwwii | I need to specifically define exactly what we want artistically speaking | 12:35 |
| kwwii | but gutsy is not even out the door yet | 12:35 |
| nothlit | lassegul: no terlmann's is HardyIdeas lol | 12:35 |
| lassegul | nothlit: your work looks very similar :D | 12:35 |
| nothlit | *ehem* | 12:36 |
| kwwii | damn, this is a hard situation to deal with | 12:36 |
| kwwii | wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Ideas has some good ideas but I am not sure how many are good for Hardy yet | 12:36 |
| lassegul | how about you make a hard decision here on what goes, and what doesnt and return a list to me? | 12:37 |
| kwwii | as far as the ConceptArt goes I would move them to Alternate for now...I do not want people to get the wrong idea and think that they should base their artwork on this | 12:37 |
| kwwii | ConceptArt sounds to official to me | 12:37 |
| kwwii | better to move it to Alternate or something else | 12:38 |
| kwwii | s/to/too | 12:38 |
| lassegul | everything goes into Alternate for now, and then you move what should be moved ok? | 12:38 |
| kwwii | now you see why I was hesitant to start posting stuff about hardy so soon | 12:38 |
| kwwii | ok, sounds good | 12:38 |
| lassegul | ok then | 12:38 |
| kwwii | but put a notice on it that it is being moved so that we can create the offical pages | 12:39 |
| kwwii | not that anyone thinks we are throwing away their ideas | 12:39 |
| lassegul | sure | 12:39 |
| kwwii | but once we have posted the official design direction that might be much easier | 12:39 |
| _MMA_ | Haha. Stolen. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Artwork/OfficialHardyIncoming | 12:39 |
| _MMA_ | /me runs from nothlit. | 12:39 |
| nothlit | lol i don't mind | 12:41 |
| _MMA_ | ;) | 12:41 |
| nothlit | takes away your [[BR] ] smugness ;p | 12:41 |
| _MMA_ | lol | 12:42 |
| nothlit | _MMA_: your art guidelines are both hilarious and awesome | 12:50 |
| _MMA_ | :) | 12:56 |
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| _MMA_ | nothlit: Refresh my page. I think I 1-uped you. ;) | 01:05 |
| nothlit | lol | 01:07 |
| nothlit | thanks for grabbing the alignment code so i didn't have to find it :D | 01:07 |
| _MMA_ | ;) | 01:08 |
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| lassegul | good morning | 08:44 |
| lassegul | if anyone wants to check it out, the wiki was heavily reorganized last night. Check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming. (nothlit has even done magic) | 08:56 |
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| KidProQuo | Hi, I want to change the title of my submission on the Hardy Heron artwork page to something a bit more descriptive. How do I go about that? | 09:20 |
| coz_ | KidProQuo, I personally have no idea but would appreciate a link to the site :) | 09:21 |
| KidProQuo | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate | 09:21 |
| coz_ | KidProQuo, thanks let me go there and look maybe I can find the answer you need :) | 09:21 |
| KidProQuo | Everything has been moved into their own sub page there from the ideas page. | 09:22 |
| coz_ | KidProQuo, mm I am not seeing any info on chaning anything it should be easily done if this is like a wiki | 09:23 |
| KidProQuo | It is a wiki but since it's the name of a whole page that I want to replace, not just a heading within the page, I'm not sure what to do | 09:25 |
| coz_ | KidProQuo, well I logged in and let me check out the options for changes hold on | 09:26 |
| KidProQuo | cheers | 09:26 |
| coz_ | KidProQuo, sorry I havent submitted anything so I am probably not able to see any of the edit features avaiable | 09:28 |
| KidProQuo | No worries, I'll wait until someone a bit more familiar with the system comes online. | 09:28 |
| KidProQuo | Failing everything else, I could just delete the page and make a new one with the proper title. | 09:29 |
| KidProQuo | Cheers for trying anyway | 09:29 |
| coz_ | KidProQuo, oh ok i guess that would work also which one was your submission | 09:29 |
| lassegul | KidProQuo: you rename the page from the drop-down menuy | 09:30 |
| KidProQuo | ah, thankyou | 09:31 |
| lassegul | i did that with about 10 000 pages last night *yawn* | 09:31 |
| lassegul | sorry if yours got a wierd name. | 09:31 |
| lassegul | Please add your name to the concept description if it isnt already there. lots of these posts werent signed. | 09:32 |
| KidProQuo | no worries. I just thought I'd give it a bit more descriptive title than it had | 09:32 |
| lassegul | which one is yours? | 09:32 |
| KidProQuo | 'savanna' - the page formerly known as 'DifferentApproach' | 09:34 |
| KidProQuo | which reminds me, those screenshots are a bit out of date. I should put the new lot up | 09:35 |
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| lassegul | nothlit: are you awake? | 11:16 |
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| nothlit | lassegul: yeah, what do you need | 02:48 |
| nothlit | lassegul: btw the platypus page has some stuff you didn't use in the reshuffle https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/Platypus | 02:49 |
| nothlit | the center tables for images, the attach list, the attach link for easy use, and the [[Include] ] for the guidelines | 02:49 |
| lassegul | yeah I see that now. | 02:51 |
| lassegul | Does that mean I must redo them all? :/ | 02:51 |
| nothlit | not if you don't feel like it | 02:52 |
| nothlit | but replace the guidelines with the include | 02:52 |
| nothlit | so we can easily modify the guidelines | 02:52 |
| lassegul | Ok. I will. | 02:52 |
| nothlit | otherwise we'll have to do it per page in the future lol | 02:52 |
| lassegul | probably smart yes. | 02:52 |
| lassegul | I put the Hardy/Ideas and Hardy/ConceptArt in Attic, so they wouldnt be used anymore. | 02:53 |
| lassegul | but is that the right place for them? | 02:53 |
| nothlit | if you're sure you've moved <everything> out of them | 02:53 |
| lassegul | not the bug report/feature request. | 02:54 |
| nothlit | then just clear the pages of content, and if we need do some recovery we can view the revision history | 02:54 |
| nothlit | and add #DEPRECATED | 02:54 |
| lassegul | they are already in Attic but you want me to clear content as well? Why not just add deprecated? | 02:55 |
| nothlit | i'd keep the pages for now (as in not delete them) just in case someone pops up and says we missed something | 02:55 |
| nothlit | try that first then | 02:55 |
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| lassegul | how do I use #DEPRECATED ? Just add it to the top? | 02:56 |
| nothlit | yeah | 02:57 |
| lassegul | the "create new project page" is genious. | 02:59 |
| nothlit | lol, just browsing through syntax =p | 02:59 |
| nothlit | i was looking for something else actually =/ | 03:00 |
| lassegul | Yeah but as long as people uses it, everything will be according to the standards. | 03:00 |
| nothlit | apparently doesn't exist in the exact form i was searching for | 03:00 |
| lassegul | things like /DVDCover have gone to /Attic. Maybe I should put it back? | 03:03 |
| nothlit | oh, also, the template page is in the artwork category | 03:04 |
| nothlit | um, lemme take a second look at the page | 03:04 |
| nothlit | yeah i guess put it back, feisty is supported for another generation and it might give other people ideas to do it themselves | 03:06 |
| lassegul | what about those panel theming concepts? Its not like they are connected to Hardy in any way, but they are timeless enough | 03:07 |
| lassegul | (but so are some of the themes there, I guess) | 03:07 |
| lassegul | nah, theyll stay in the attic. They havent been touched by others than terlmann in a long while | 03:08 |
| nothlit | lassegul: btw, my community theme page isn't pregutsy ;p, but it is still old | 03:08 |
| lassegul | pre-hardy? | 03:09 |
| nothlit | Everything pre-Gutsy has now gone to /Attic | 03:10 |
| lassegul | ok, so we should rename it to prehardy then? That will be correct wont it? | 03:10 |
| lassegul | s/rename/correct/ | 03:11 |
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| nothlit | sorry, dc | 03:19 |
| nothlit | Just say Everything not current has been moved to Attic | 03:20 |
| lassegul | yeah | 03:21 |
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| nothlit | i'm going to revert GutsyIdeas back to its old location ok? i think people will still want to look at it for now | 03:25 |
| lassegul | sounds good. starting to edit the alternate pages with dynamic guidelines. | 03:26 |
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| nothlit`alpha | lassegul: i added previous/next links and a siblings navigation at the top as well | 03:39 |
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| lassegul | wow. thats so cool. | 03:40 |
| lassegul | dont run! | 03:40 |
| lassegul | :) | 03:40 |
| lassegul | Ill get it in. Anything else you want before I start editing again :) | 03:41 |
| nothlit`alpha | yeah, if the wiki wakes up lol | 03:45 |
| nothlit`alpha | it freezes for minutes, especially on changing preferences | 03:46 |
| lassegul | whats the idea? | 03:47 |
| lassegul | what else are you planning on adding? | 03:47 |
| nothlit`alpha | table of contents and reformatting it so it fits better there | 03:52 |
| nothlit`alpha | done now i hope | 03:52 |
| nothlit`alpha | bulleted comments | 03:54 |
| nothlit`alpha | its fine go ahead, if there are small improvements along the way so what | 03:54 |
| nothlit`alpha | the other pages are still good | 03:54 |
| lassegul | looks good. ill add the attachement list as well and bulleted comments. | 03:54 |
| lassegul | and imagetable etc. | 03:55 |
| lassegul | hold on a sec. the navigation on the top shows Incoming, not Incoming/Alternate. Shouldnt it do that? | 03:56 |
| nothlit`alpha | arg, the wiki is annoying, this delay in edit syncing shows funny things sometimes | 03:56 |
| nothlit`alpha | the navigation will show alternate when the page is in alternate | 03:57 |
| nothlit`alpha | the template isn't | 03:57 |
| nothlit`alpha | it shows siblings, the templates siblings are the things in incoming | 03:57 |
| lassegul | ah right. im forgetting its a redirect. | 03:57 |
| lassegul | I dont like the image table though. :S | 03:58 |
| nothlit`alpha | it keeps the images and fullsize/source links organised though, another example of it being used it here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Artwork/OfficialHardyIncoming | 04:00 |
| nothlit`alpha | lol, look at what the top of this page says https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Attic/HardyIdeas | 04:01 |
| lassegul | yes i see. But its a pain in the ass to add them to every picture in here, and are you really sure people will use it? I think the more wiki syntax editing people must use, the more messy its going to get. | 04:02 |
| lassegul | i came i saw i giggled. | 04:02 |
| nothlit`alpha | i never noticed that before | 04:03 |
| nothlit`alpha | if they won't use it they'll delete it | 04:03 |
| nothlit`alpha | thats fine if they keep it organised anyways | 04:03 |
| nothlit`alpha | but if they want to use its there for them | 04:03 |
| nothlit`alpha | if you want i can put ##comment in about the table use being optional | 04:04 |
| nothlit`alpha | but, otherwise people just do it row by row like this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Attic/ConceptArt | 04:04 |
| lassegul | ok im with you. wanna split this task with me? You start in this end /GTK2Idea1 and ill do the one before that one | 04:05 |
| nothlit`alpha | oooh ,the next meeting is set | 04:06 |
| lassegul | s/the one/those/ | 04:07 |
| nothlit | kwwii: so the meeting is during the last day of UDS? | 04:08 |
| nothlit | lame wiki system... the original ideas page is gone... i moved it to Artwork/Incoming/Attic/Hardy/Ideas, but for some reason it existed in both places, so i deleted the Attic/Ideas and kept Attic/Hardy/Ideas, but they're both gone now | 04:10 |
| nothlit | probably in some weird wiki sync | 04:10 |
| nothlit | lassegul: ok starting at GTK2Idea1 and moving down the list | 04:11 |
| lassegul | nothlit: great! | 04:11 |
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| kwwii | nothlit: not necessarily, I just put that up so that some meeting was somehow planned | 04:16 |
| kwwii | we might do it one day in advance | 04:17 |
| kwwii | or perhaps a couple of days later | 04:17 |
| kwwii | we could also change the time so that other people have a chance to join | 04:17 |
| lassegul | kwwii: you probably shouldnt let a date that is possibly wrong be public for too long :P | 04:18 |
| nothlit | i thought you had VoIP planned? or just stick to irc | 04:19 |
| nothlit | lassegul: i also added example comments, * Comment 1 * Comment 2 | 04:20 |
| kwwii | lassegul: yeah, probably not | 04:21 |
| kwwii | I'll send an email to the list | 04:21 |
| lassegul | nothlit: why must you always do better than me! :P | 04:23 |
| lassegul | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/FreshTheme lol this didnt go so well. | 04:23 |
| nothlit | lassegul: i'm just more accustomed to the wiki and i can't stop the incessant tweaking | 04:23 |
| nothlit | lol, well its fixable =p | 04:24 |
| lassegul | fixed. | 04:24 |
| nothlit | lassegul: psst, the Fullsize link goes in a second row of the table under the images =p | 04:25 |
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| nothlit | btw bullet points need a space before the * or it becomes an ordinary asterisk | 04:26 |
| kwwii | erm | 04:26 |
| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-artwork:kwwii] : Next team meeting sometime around Nov 2nd 17:00UTC :: Check out the revamped http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ :: Coming very soon to a wiki near you: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy | ||
| nothlit | lassegul: you have guidelines twice and the = = don't match | 04:27 |
| lassegul | nothlit: I should do this when im not working at the same time. Ill clean up my mistakes, then leave it either for you to fix the rest, or when i get home tonight. This just leaves a mess. | 04:30 |
| nothlit | kk | 04:31 |
| nothlit | sorry for the nagging lol | 04:31 |
| lassegul | nothlit: no no, of course, this must be done right. | 04:33 |
| nothlit | kwwii: what do we do about damians wallpaper rules? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/WallpaperRules declare them canon? or leave them until you find time to edit it | 04:39 |
| kwwii | nothlit: I like the basics of what is there but I do not agree with them all | 04:44 |
| kwwii | so no, they are not canonical, so to speak :p | 04:44 |
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| lassegul | ok. ill leave for a meeting. See you all later tonight. | 04:55 |
| _MMA_ | Bye | 04:55 |
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| _MMA_ | kwwii: Hit me up when you're back. | 05:28 |
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| lassegul | re | 08:52 |
| lassegul | nothlit: you mind checking the syntax on this for me? | 08:53 |
| lassegul | nothlit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/Animals | 08:53 |
| thorwil | lassegul: interesting concept. i think the 3 flares on the bottom are too much - they get in a fight with the bird over the viewers attention ;) | 08:57 |
| lassegul | thorwil: its not mine, im just concerned of the wiki syntax | 08:58 |
| lassegul | thorwil: but i agree :) | 08:58 |
| lassegul | thorwil: im having trouble with the || || syntax to make tables. | 08:58 |
| thorwil | lassegul: now that you say ... who's is it, or rather shouldn't that page state that clearly? | 08:59 |
| nothlit | lassegul: contributions is top level, and you left a trailing space | 08:59 |
| nothlit | you're missing the attach file link in contributions as well | 09:00 |
| lassegul | thorwil: it should, but when they dont attach their name to it in the first place it takes some time to get through the revision logs to see who actually uploaded it. | 09:00 |
| nothlit | and you have leading spaces making funny tabs | 09:00 |
| lassegul | nothlit: im correcting that as we speak | 09:00 |
| lassegul | nothlit: funny tabs? | 09:01 |
| lassegul | nothlit: nm, i understand, but that isnt the reason. look i fixed it now, but the same table appears. | 09:03 |
| nothlit | lassegul: nm, i fixed it--you forgot about the trailing spaces and watching the concept and reference levels too | 09:50 |
| lassegul | nothlit: didnt I fix that? | 09:50 |
| nothlit | lassegul: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/Animals?action=diff | 09:51 |
| lassegul | i see. | 09:51 |
| nothlit | anyways, i paste in a bare template to a text editor, and then paste in the text from the working page | 09:51 |
| nothlit | that way i can't make mistakes as easily | 09:52 |
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