[12:29] kwwii: ill pick up the concept ideas and put them to Hardy/Alternate where each concept has its own page. [12:30] kwwii: but some stuff is about how to organize the default desktop in hardy, and adding another colour option to the gtkcolourchooser etc. what do i do with them? [12:31] ouch, yeah...looking at those pages makes it hard to decide [12:32] might be best to put the ideas into another page, as they do not fit what is going to be default (nothing I saw so far) [12:32] nasty situation [12:33] probably should have put some notice somewhere that the direction for Hardy is still coming [12:33] I kinda did that tonight though [12:33] I like this one /!\ [12:34] all the concept art stuff seems to be ready to move to alternate [12:34] as it does not really fit the information that I have not posted yet :p [12:34] ive not seen this information [12:34] this could spare me some work [12:34] lol, no because I have not posted it [12:35] I need to specifically define exactly what we want artistically speaking [12:35] but gutsy is not even out the door yet [12:35] lassegul: no terlmann's is HardyIdeas lol [12:35] nothlit: your work looks very similar :D [12:36] *ehem* [12:36] damn, this is a hard situation to deal with [12:36] wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Ideas has some good ideas but I am not sure how many are good for Hardy yet [12:37] how about you make a hard decision here on what goes, and what doesnt and return a list to me? [12:37] as far as the ConceptArt goes I would move them to Alternate for now...I do not want people to get the wrong idea and think that they should base their artwork on this [12:37] ConceptArt sounds to official to me [12:38] better to move it to Alternate or something else [12:38] s/to/too [12:38] everything goes into Alternate for now, and then you move what should be moved ok? [12:38] now you see why I was hesitant to start posting stuff about hardy so soon [12:38] ok, sounds good [12:38] ok then [12:39] but put a notice on it that it is being moved so that we can create the offical pages [12:39] not that anyone thinks we are throwing away their ideas [12:39] sure [12:39] but once we have posted the official design direction that might be much easier [12:39] <_MMA_> Haha. Stolen. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Artwork/OfficialHardyIncoming [12:39] <_MMA_> /me runs from nothlit. [12:41] lol i don't mind [12:41] <_MMA_> ;) [12:41] takes away your [[BR] ] smugness ;p [12:42] <_MMA_> lol [12:50] _MMA_: your art guidelines are both hilarious and awesome [12:56] <_MMA_> :) === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === kwwii heads out for the night [01:05] <_MMA_> nothlit: Refresh my page. 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Check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming. (nothlit has even done magic) === KidProQuo [n=Kidproqu@125-237-210-14.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === coz_ [n=coz_@unaffiliated/coz/x-457345] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [09:20] Hi, I want to change the title of my submission on the Hardy Heron artwork page to something a bit more descriptive. How do I go about that? [09:21] KidProQuo, I personally have no idea but would appreciate a link to the site :) [09:21] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate [09:21] KidProQuo, thanks let me go there and look maybe I can find the answer you need :) [09:22] Everything has been moved into their own sub page there from the ideas page. [09:23] KidProQuo, mm I am not seeing any info on chaning anything it should be easily done if this is like a wiki [09:25] It is a wiki but since it's the name of a whole page that I want to replace, not just a heading within the page, I'm not sure what to do [09:26] KidProQuo, well I logged in and let me check out the options for changes hold on [09:26] cheers [09:28] KidProQuo, sorry I havent submitted anything so I am probably not able to see any of the edit features avaiable [09:28] No worries, I'll wait until someone a bit more familiar with the system comes online. [09:29] Failing everything else, I could just delete the page and make a new one with the proper title. [09:29] Cheers for trying anyway [09:29] KidProQuo, oh ok i guess that would work also which one was your submission [09:30] KidProQuo: you rename the page from the drop-down menuy [09:31] ah, thankyou [09:31] i did that with about 10 000 pages last night *yawn* [09:31] sorry if yours got a wierd name. [09:32] Please add your name to the concept description if it isnt already there. lots of these posts werent signed. [09:32] no worries. I just thought I'd give it a bit more descriptive title than it had [09:32] which one is yours? [09:34] 'savanna' - the page formerly known as 'DifferentApproach' [09:35] which reminds me, those screenshots are a bit out of date. I should put the new lot up === klepas [n=klepas@ppp167-251-133.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === KidProQuo is now known as KidProQuo_away === nysosym [n=nysosym@hlle-4db18f19.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === coz_ [n=coz_@unaffiliated/coz/x-457345] has left #ubuntu-artwork ["Did] === KidProQuo_away is now known as KidProQuo === andreasn [n=andreas@90-227-183-136-no128.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === elkbuntu [n=melissa@ubuntu/member/elkbuntu] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === coz_ [n=coz_@unaffiliated/coz/x-457345] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [11:16] nothlit: are you awake? === coz_ [n=coz_@unaffiliated/coz/x-457345] has left #ubuntu-artwork ["Did] === nysosym [n=nysosym@hlle-4db18f19.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === damit [n=damit@ppp167-251-133.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === damit is now known as luffy === _MMA_ [n=_MMA_@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === nothlit [n=nothlit@fluxbuntu/developer/nothlit] has joined #Ubuntu-Artwork [02:48] lassegul: yeah, what do you need [02:49] lassegul: btw the platypus page has some stuff you didn't use in the reshuffle https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/Platypus [02:49] the center tables for images, the attach list, the attach link for easy use, and the [[Include] ] for the guidelines [02:51] yeah I see that now. [02:51] Does that mean I must redo them all? :/ [02:52] not if you don't feel like it [02:52] but replace the guidelines with the include [02:52] so we can easily modify the guidelines [02:52] Ok. I will. [02:52] otherwise we'll have to do it per page in the future lol [02:52] probably smart yes. [02:53] I put the Hardy/Ideas and Hardy/ConceptArt in Attic, so they wouldnt be used anymore. [02:53] but is that the right place for them? [02:53] if you're sure you've moved out of them [02:54] not the bug report/feature request. [02:54] then just clear the pages of content, and if we need do some recovery we can view the revision history [02:54] and add #DEPRECATED [02:55] they are already in Attic but you want me to clear content as well? Why not just add deprecated? [02:55] i'd keep the pages for now (as in not delete them) just in case someone pops up and says we missed something [02:55] try that first then === _MMA_ [n=_MMA_@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [02:56] how do I use #DEPRECATED ? Just add it to the top? [02:57] yeah [02:59] the "create new project page" is genious. [02:59] lol, just browsing through syntax =p [03:00] i was looking for something else actually =/ [03:00] Yeah but as long as people uses it, everything will be according to the standards. [03:00] apparently doesn't exist in the exact form i was searching for [03:03] things like /DVDCover have gone to /Attic. Maybe I should put it back? [03:04] oh, also, the template page is in the artwork category [03:04] um, lemme take a second look at the page [03:06] yeah i guess put it back, feisty is supported for another generation and it might give other people ideas to do it themselves [03:07] what about those panel theming concepts? Its not like they are connected to Hardy in any way, but they are timeless enough [03:07] (but so are some of the themes there, I guess) [03:08] nah, theyll stay in the attic. They havent been touched by others than terlmann in a long while [03:08] lassegul: btw, my community theme page isn't pregutsy ;p, but it is still old [03:09] pre-hardy? [03:10] Everything pre-Gutsy has now gone to /Attic [03:10] ok, so we should rename it to prehardy then? That will be correct wont it? [03:11] s/rename/correct/ === nothlit [n=nothlit@fluxbuntu/developer/nothlit] has joined #Ubuntu-Artwork [03:19] sorry, dc [03:20] Just say Everything not current has been moved to Attic [03:21] yeah === nothlit [n=nothlit@fluxbuntu/developer/nothlit] has joined #Ubuntu-Artwork [03:25] i'm going to revert GutsyIdeas back to its old location ok? i think people will still want to look at it for now [03:26] sounds good. starting to edit the alternate pages with dynamic guidelines. === klepas [n=klepas@60-242-104-119.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [03:39] lassegul: i added previous/next links and a siblings navigation at the top as well === nothlit`alpha runs away from the now driven crazy lassegul [03:40] wow. thats so cool. [03:40] dont run! [03:40] :) [03:41] Ill get it in. Anything else you want before I start editing again :) [03:45] yeah, if the wiki wakes up lol [03:46] it freezes for minutes, especially on changing preferences [03:47] whats the idea? [03:47] what else are you planning on adding? [03:52] table of contents and reformatting it so it fits better there [03:52] done now i hope [03:54] bulleted comments [03:54] its fine go ahead, if there are small improvements along the way so what [03:54] the other pages are still good [03:54] looks good. ill add the attachement list as well and bulleted comments. [03:55] and imagetable etc. [03:56] hold on a sec. the navigation on the top shows Incoming, not Incoming/Alternate. Shouldnt it do that? [03:56] arg, the wiki is annoying, this delay in edit syncing shows funny things sometimes [03:57] the navigation will show alternate when the page is in alternate [03:57] the template isn't [03:57] it shows siblings, the templates siblings are the things in incoming [03:57] ah right. im forgetting its a redirect. [03:58] I dont like the image table though. :S [04:00] it keeps the images and fullsize/source links organised though, another example of it being used it here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Artwork/OfficialHardyIncoming [04:01] lol, look at what the top of this page says https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Attic/HardyIdeas [04:02] yes i see. But its a pain in the ass to add them to every picture in here, and are you really sure people will use it? I think the more wiki syntax editing people must use, the more messy its going to get. [04:02] i came i saw i giggled. [04:03] i never noticed that before [04:03] if they won't use it they'll delete it [04:03] thats fine if they keep it organised anyways [04:03] but if they want to use its there for them [04:04] if you want i can put ##comment in about the table use being optional [04:04] but, otherwise people just do it row by row like this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Attic/ConceptArt [04:05] ok im with you. wanna split this task with me? You start in this end /GTK2Idea1 and ill do the one before that one [04:06] oooh ,the next meeting is set [04:07] s/the one/those/ [04:08] kwwii: so the meeting is during the last day of UDS? [04:10] lame wiki system... the original ideas page is gone... i moved it to Artwork/Incoming/Attic/Hardy/Ideas, but for some reason it existed in both places, so i deleted the Attic/Ideas and kept Attic/Hardy/Ideas, but they're both gone now [04:10] probably in some weird wiki sync [04:11] lassegul: ok starting at GTK2Idea1 and moving down the list [04:11] nothlit: great! === thorwil [n=thorwil@p5089469E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [04:16] nothlit: not necessarily, I just put that up so that some meeting was somehow planned [04:17] we might do it one day in advance [04:17] or perhaps a couple of days later [04:17] we could also change the time so that other people have a chance to join [04:18] kwwii: you probably shouldnt let a date that is possibly wrong be public for too long :P [04:19] i thought you had VoIP planned? or just stick to irc [04:20] lassegul: i also added example comments, * Comment 1 * Comment 2 [04:21] lassegul: yeah, probably not [04:21] I'll send an email to the list [04:23] nothlit: why must you always do better than me! :P [04:23] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/FreshTheme lol this didnt go so well. [04:23] lassegul: i'm just more accustomed to the wiki and i can't stop the incessant tweaking [04:24] lol, well its fixable =p [04:24] fixed. [04:25] lassegul: psst, the Fullsize link goes in a second row of the table under the images =p === ..[topic/#ubuntu-artwork:kwwii] : Next team meeting Nov 2nd 17:00UTC :: Check out the revamped http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ :: Coming very soon to a wiki near you: http://w [04:26] btw bullet points need a space before the * or it becomes an ordinary asterisk [04:26] erm === ..[topic/#ubuntu-artwork:kwwii] : Next team meeting sometime around Nov 2nd 17:00UTC :: Check out the revamped http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ :: Coming very soon to a wiki near you: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy [04:27] lassegul: you have guidelines twice and the = = don't match [04:30] nothlit: I should do this when im not working at the same time. Ill clean up my mistakes, then leave it either for you to fix the rest, or when i get home tonight. This just leaves a mess. [04:31] kk [04:31] sorry for the nagging lol [04:33] nothlit: no no, of course, this must be done right. [04:39] kwwii: what do we do about damians wallpaper rules? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/WallpaperRules declare them canon? or leave them until you find time to edit it [04:44] nothlit: I like the basics of what is there but I do not agree with them all [04:44] so no, they are not canonical, so to speak :p === klepas [n=klepas@60-242-104-119.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === BHSPitMonkey [n=stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [04:55] ok. ill leave for a meeting. See you all later tonight. [04:55] <_MMA_> Bye === kwwii is off to parent-teacher night at school [05:28] <_MMA_> kwwii: Hit me up when you're back. === _MMA_ [n=_MMA_@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === luffy [n=damit@ppp167-251-133.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === _MMA1 [n=_MMA_@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === _MMA1 is now known as _MMA_ === terlmann [n=terlmann@207.254.168.168] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Skiessi [n=qwe@dsl-roibrasgw1-ff90c100-219.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [08:52] re [08:53] nothlit: you mind checking the syntax on this for me? [08:53] nothlit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/Animals [08:57] lassegul: interesting concept. i think the 3 flares on the bottom are too much - they get in a fight with the bird over the viewers attention ;) [08:58] thorwil: its not mine, im just concerned of the wiki syntax [08:58] thorwil: but i agree :) [08:58] thorwil: im having trouble with the || || syntax to make tables. [08:59] lassegul: now that you say ... who's is it, or rather shouldn't that page state that clearly? [08:59] lassegul: contributions is top level, and you left a trailing space [09:00] you're missing the attach file link in contributions as well [09:00] thorwil: it should, but when they dont attach their name to it in the first place it takes some time to get through the revision logs to see who actually uploaded it. [09:00] and you have leading spaces making funny tabs [09:00] nothlit: im correcting that as we speak [09:01] nothlit: funny tabs? [09:03] nothlit: nm, i understand, but that isnt the reason. look i fixed it now, but the same table appears. [09:50] lassegul: nm, i fixed it--you forgot about the trailing spaces and watching the concept and reference levels too [09:50] nothlit: didnt I fix that? [09:51] lassegul: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/Animals?action=diff [09:51] i see. [09:51] anyways, i paste in a bare template to a text editor, and then paste in the text from the working page [09:52] that way i can't make mistakes as easily