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[01:42] <tonyyarusso> ryanakca: you around?
[01:43] <ryanakca> tonyyarusso: yes
[01:43] <pleia2> evening tonyyarusso!
[01:43] <tonyyarusso> ryanakca: I had a pondering
[01:43] <tonyyarusso> hey pleia2 !
[01:43] <ryanakca> tonyyarusso: I finally added you to the team
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[01:43] <tonyyarusso> Does Canonical ever offer hosting and web sites for projects other than LoCo teams, or are we just supposed to use the wiki?
[01:43] <ryanakca> I dunno...
[01:44] <pleia2> approved 3rd party teams can get webspace
[01:44] <ryanakca> ask them in their sysadmins channel... which has been idle for the past year
=== ryanakca nods
[01:44] <tonyyarusso> nah, I've seen activity in sysadmin
[01:44] <tonyyarusso> just not lots
[01:44] <ryanakca> hehe
[01:45] <tonyyarusso> The reason I ask is because I've been reading up on Drupal for a completely unrelated purpose, and thought some things about it sounded like they could be useful to us.
=== ryanakca nods
=== ryanakca has no drupal experience, but I'd love to learn...
[01:45] <ryanakca> file an RT
=== pleia2 is supposed to be learning drupal, but has not been motivated enough
[01:46] <tonyyarusso> Are we "approved"?
[01:46] <ryanakca> no
[01:46] <pleia2> nope, don't even have a mailing list yet
[01:46] <ryanakca> hehe
[01:46] <ryanakca> even though I filed it several weeks ago...
[01:46] <ryanakca> herm.
[01:47] <tonyyarusso> pleia2: I just bought "Building Online Communities with Drupal, phpBB, and WordPress" from Apress.  It's really good for the "I don't know anything yet and need to get off the ground" crowd.
[01:47] <pleia2> :o
[01:47] <pleia2> I might have to pester Apress for a "review copy"
[01:47] <tonyyarusso> I also go "Pro Drupal Development", which will be the next step, but substantially more complex.
=== popey notes he got added too :)
[01:47] <pleia2> welcome popey!
[01:47] <popey> tonyyarusso: yes, non-locos can get hosting
[01:47] <ryanakca> popey: yep :)
[01:48] <popey> i run the screencast team and we have our (drupal) site hosted by canonical
[01:48] <tonyyarusso> popey: 'k, cool
[01:48] <pleia2> popey: is your team approved?
[01:48] <tonyyarusso> pleia2: Yeah, I need to start doing that.  I just signed up our LoCo for the user group programs with Apress and O'Reilly.
[01:48] <popey> uhm, no :)
[01:48] <tonyyarusso> And then went out and spent $185 on their books at Barnes & Noble anyway :S
[01:48] <popey> maybe i should add it to the schedule for approval
[01:48] <pleia2> tonyyarusso: O'Reilly is great if you actually write reviews, they'll nag you about asking for more books!
[01:49] <tonyyarusso> pleia2: That's not so bad - it would be good to be reminded
[01:49] <pleia2> popey: cool, so even unapproved teams can have space, how did you go about getting it?
[01:49] <popey> i kinda got it by the back door
[01:50] <popey> i suspect that we are not the best example
[01:50] <pleia2> ah, sneaky popey :)
[01:50] <popey> i note the mythbuntu people have also asked for hosting
[01:50] <popey> dunno if they got it yet
[01:50] <pleia2> I think the mythbuntu people had some trouble and they're approved, I just wondered if they didn't take the proper routes
[01:50] <ryanakca> hmm... can you just randomly decide to review, even though you've never done so before? I guess they take your credit card number, send you the book, and if you don't publish the review by x date, they charge you for it?
[01:50] <popey> ryanakca: if you need drupal help, just shout
[01:50] <pleia2> ryanakca: you say you're a LUG, give them your URL, they send you free books
[01:50] <popey> i run a few drupal sites
[01:51] <ryanakca> pleia2: cool
[01:51] <pleia2> ryanakca: nothing so formal as asking for a credit card :)
[01:51] <pleia2> if you don't review, oh well, but if you do - you get more! and they like yoU!
=== ryanakca wonders if they accept one person LUGs
[01:51] <pleia2> lol
[01:51] <ryanakca> we had one... but it's been dead for the past 3-4 years
[01:51] <popey> ryanakca: had one what?
[01:51] <ryanakca> LUG
[01:51] <popey> oh
[01:52] <popey> where?
[01:52] <ryanakca> Kingston Linux User Group :)
[01:52] <popey> Kingston in..?
[01:52] <ryanakca> KLUG... http://www.klug.on.ca/
[01:52] <ryanakca> ontario, canada
[01:52] <popey> thanks
[01:52] <popey> there is a Kingston near me :)
[01:52] <tonyyarusso> ryanakca: just do it through Canada
[01:52] <popey> that's why I wondered
[01:53] <ryanakca> they've added counters to the website... but haven't held any meetings
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[01:53] <ryanakca> tonyyarusso: yeah, CALUG... and... the lug address is my house...
[01:53] <tonyyarusso> ryanakca: I meant Ubuntu Canada
[01:53] <ryanakca> Ah... but, how would we share the books...
[01:53] <popey> lotto
[01:53] <ryanakca> would cost an arm and a leg on shipping from eastern canada to BC
[01:54] <pleia2> gosh, we are so off topic, people are actually here, I want to talk -classroom! :)
[01:54] <popey> heh
[01:54] <ryanakca> hehe
=== popey wondered why he was added to the lp team actually :)
[01:54] <tonyyarusso> ryanakca: They don't have to ship to BC, so it depends on who wants it ;)
[01:54] <popey> not that I mind
[01:54] <tonyyarusso> Aaaaaanyway
[01:54] <jrib> hi
[01:54] <pleia2> popey: we're trying to relaunch classroom
[01:54] <ryanakca> popey: because you applied?
[01:54] <popey> i did!?
[01:54] <tonyyarusso> I was just pondering about site stuff for scheduling and posting logs and whatnot - drupal would work well
[01:54] <popey> must have been last time round :)
[01:55] <popey> tonyyarusso: what's wrong with the wiki?
[01:55] <pleia2> the wiki is great for now, but moving forward something more dynamic would be nice
[01:55] <popey> ok
[01:55] <popey> drupal has a nice calendar system
[01:55] <tonyyarusso> popey: well, eventually it gets limiting, particularly in the scheduling area.  The upload/linking files capability leaves something to be desired too.
[01:55] <ryanakca> nope, sept 30th
[01:55] <popey> we use it on the fridge
[01:55] <pleia2> if someone wants to put effort into getting us hosting, that's cool
[01:55] <pleia2> right now I'm sort of looking to focus on content more
[01:56] <tonyyarusso> yeah
=== ryanakca nods
[01:56] <popey> if it's just a drupal site I don't mind hosting it
[01:56] <pleia2> I don't know if it's a secret or not, but ubuntu open week is being scheduled
[01:56] <ryanakca> :D
[01:56] <tonyyarusso> I'm sort of in CMS-studying mode, since this is one of four(?) areas I'm looking into it for
=== pleia2 hides from jono if it's a secret ;)
[01:56] <tonyyarusso> pleia2: yay!
=== popey has noted the changes to the prep page
[01:56] <popey> handy page to be subscribed to :)
[01:57] <tonyyarusso> popey: name?
[01:57] <tonyyarusso> oh, just UbuntuOpenWeek
[01:57] <popey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek/Prep
[01:58] <tonyyarusso> ah
[01:58] <pleia2> yep
[01:58] <popey> pleia2: did you want a domain, (ubuntuclassroom.org) or just a subdomain (classroom.ubuntu.com) or something else?
[01:58] <tonyyarusso> pleia2: haha, how would you have found out?  By asking about running a U-W session perhaps?
[01:59] <pleia2> popey: either one
[01:59] <tonyyarusso> popey: classroom. is more elegant and uniform
[01:59] <pleia2> tonyyarusso: Jono asked me to run the UW one
[01:59] <tonyyarusso> pleia2: ah, that works too
[02:01] <pleia2> mmm, so what else to talk about?
=== ryanakca shrugs...
[02:02] <ryanakca> who we going to get to teach?
[02:02] <ryanakca> same people as last year or?
[02:02] <tonyyarusso> Do we want to try to have any sessions before open week, or just start up right away after?
[02:02] <tonyyarusso> Will we be doing any classroom sessions ourselves?
[02:02] <pleia2> tonyyarusso: start up after
[02:02] <tonyyarusso> (for ow)
[02:02] <ryanakca> bit of both... I might post something on planet asking for volunteers
[02:02] <ryanakca> year.
[02:03] <tonyyarusso> ryanakca: I'm thinking of asking for one volunteer from each LoCo.
[02:03] <pleia2> ryanakca: I think we can go through the presenters from last year and see if any are interested in doing their class again
[02:03] <ryanakca> yeah
[02:03] <jrib> are you planning on new topics or the same?
[02:03] <ryanakca> dunno.
[02:03] <tonyyarusso> some of each I suppose
[02:04] <pleia2> yeah, some of each
[02:04] <tonyyarusso> new ones would be better, but harder
[02:04] <ryanakca> I'd go for pretty much the same, but if we think up of anything new, sure
[02:04] <pleia2> I also liked that MOTU is doing sessions in here
[02:04] <pleia2> need to get more teams to do Q&A sessions that we promote
[02:04] <tonyyarusso> yeah
[02:04] <ryanakca> And, do we keep the same model, beginner-intermediate-advanced courses, or alternate between beginner-advanced type thing?
[02:04] <tonyyarusso> So, s/each LoCo/each LoCo and team/
[02:04] <pleia2> tonyyarusso: yeah
[02:05] <pleia2> ryanakca: I think we can sort of alternate, based on availability
[02:05] <tonyyarusso> ryanakca: not sure it has to be structured, as long as there is a mix of everything
[02:05] <ryanakca> also, umm... if you can hunt down the logs of the 2 person meeting gnomefreak and I had in #ubuntu-meeting a while back, we had lots of good points/ideas/etc in there
[02:05] <ryanakca> February-ish methinks
[02:05] <pleia2> where are logs from here kept?
[02:05] <tonyyarusso> !logs
[02:05] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs - See also !OpenWeek
[02:05] <pleia2> ty
[02:07] <popey> looks like older logs are purged
[02:08] <popey> http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu%3Aen-GB%3Aofficial&hs=Urh&q=pleia2+gnomefreak++site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fpeople.ubuntu.com%2F%7Efabbione%2Firclogs+ubuntu-meeting+classroom&btnG=Search&meta=
[02:08] <pleia2> they're in the archives/ directory
[02:09] <popey> ahhh
[02:10] <pleia2> well it wasn't feburary :)
[02:12] <ryanakca> http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/archived/2007-01/ubuntu-meeting-2007-01-07.html
[02:12] <tonyyarusso> ryanakca: timestamp?
[02:13] <ryanakca> for?
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[02:13] <tonyyarusso> your conversation
[02:13] <pleia2> ty
[02:13] <tonyyarusso> where's it start?
[02:13] <pleia2> 6:57
[02:13] <tonyyarusso> ok
[02:13] <tonyyarusso> oh yeah, I think I read this before
=== ryanakca works on homework while you guys read it... or while pleia reads it...
[02:14] <ryanakca> ping me when you're done
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[02:21] <tonyyarusso> :P
[02:22] <tonyyarusso> another nifty part with drupal - that could be automated potentially
[02:22] <jroes> has there been any thought to ubuntu classroom screencasts?
[02:23] <jroes> I would say google-style lecture videos probably wouldn't be worth it, but a screencast with running commentary sounds neat
[02:23] <ryanakca> pleia2: see Classroom/Guidelines
[02:23] <popey> like http://screencasts.ubuntu.com jroes ?
[02:23] <popey> :)
[02:23] <tonyyarusso> jroes: There is a separate screencast team right now
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[02:23] <tonyyarusso> Perhaps there would be some cause for helping them work together, but classroom has always been irc-oriented so far
[02:24] <jroes> haha
[02:24] <jroes> good one :)
[02:24] <popey> i completely agree
[02:24] <jroes> I like the irc format too though
[02:24] <jroes> hmm.  I didn't realize that most of this is geared towards using ubuntu
[02:24] <jroes> is there anything geared toward learning how to contribute?
[02:25] <pleia2> ryanakca: nice
[02:25] <ryanakca> jroes: there's open week
[02:26] <popey> not yet from the screencast team jroes, no, but that's a big part of the open week
[02:26] <popey> oh :)
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[02:26] <pleia2> jroes: see topic
[02:26] <popey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek jroes
=== jroes smacks self
[02:26] <pleia2> :)
[02:27] <pleia2> ok, I need to sneak out
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[02:27] <pleia2> dentist on wednesday...
[02:27] <pleia2> stupid wisdom teeth
[02:27] <popey> :(
[02:28] <pleia2> and I'm 26! I'm too old for this ;)
[02:28] <popey> haha
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[02:28] <pleia2> lucky
[02:28] <ryanakca> see yah pleia2
[02:28] <pleia2> ok, nite
[02:28] <ryanakca> hehe... *feels young*
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[02:29] <popey> time for bed methinks.. nn all
[02:29] <ryanakca> night popey
[02:29] <jroes> hm, oct 22 and an empty schedule?  did dholbach2 just accidentally kill the schedule or is that from the previous open week?
[02:29] <popey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek/Prep jroes
[02:30] <jroes> ahhhh
[02:30] <jroes> excellent, that is going to be an interesting week :)
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[08:48] <pleia2> popey: congrats :)
[08:49] <popey> thanks :S
[08:49] <popey> kinda talked myself out of becoming official there :)
[08:51] <pleia2> heh :)
[08:51] <popey> well if we get a blog post out of mark, that'll help :)
[08:52] <pleia2> making it through a CC meeting even if you don't get an approval is fine (:
[08:52] <pleia2> your project is great
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