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CIA-18 | ubiquity: superm1 * r2168 mythbuntu-ubiquity/ (95 files in 9 dirs): merge with ubiquity trunk | 01:05 |
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CIA-18 | ubiquity: superm1 * r2169 mythbuntu-ubiquity/ (bin/ubiquity debian/changelog): copy xserver-xorg debconf to new install. (only on ubiquity-mythtbuntu until bryce acks this) | 01:11 |
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CIA-18 | ubiquity: evand * r2330 ubiquity/ (3 files in 2 dirs): | 07:32 |
CIA-18 | ubiquity: * Only set migration-assistant data in user-setup if updating an existing | 07:32 |
CIA-18 | ubiquity: user (LP: #135149). | 07:32 |
CIA-18 | ubiquity: * Properly filter out partitions marked for deletion in | 07:32 |
CIA-18 | ubiquity: migrationassistant.py (LP: #146222). | 07:32 |
CIA-18 | ubiquity: evand * r2331 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/frontend/gtk_ui.py): | 08:37 |
CIA-18 | ubiquity: * Fixed a bug where the migration-assistant page would not be updated to | 08:37 |
CIA-18 | ubiquity: reflect changes, such as if the user went back and partitioned | 08:37 |
CIA-18 | ubiquity: differently, if the page had already been shown. | 08:37 |
CIA-18 | ubiquity: superm1 * r2332 ubiquity/ (bin/ubiquity debian/changelog): | 09:22 |
CIA-18 | ubiquity: copy over xserver-xorg debconf items (received a +1 from bryce that this is needed for gutsy) | 09:22 |
CIA-18 | ubiquity: this behavior is a temporary workaround, and will be removed for hardy | 09:22 |
evand | I have a hunch that ntfs-3g is the cause of /mnt/migrationassistant still being busy when ma-ask is supposed to unmount it, but I'm not quite sure yet why this would be the case. | 09:30 |
evand | ma-ask/ma-apply, really | 09:30 |
superm1 | can you perhaps add some debugging calls to look for open fd's ? | 09:34 |
evand | ah, probably. But first, sleep. | 09:39 |
evand | g'night | 09:39 |
superm1 | night | 09:39 |
superm1 | probably a good idea, i should do that too :) | 09:39 |
evand | indeed! | 09:41 |
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xivulon | cjwatson I'd like to introduce a ubiquity/safe_mode boolean so that if that is true, no raw partition gets formatted and MBR is untouched. | 01:05 |
xivulon | I'd like to avoid that someone | 01:05 |
xivulon | ends up with a formatted partition because fo some (undetected) code bugs and/or preseed errors | 01:06 |
xivulon | to be precise now I skip raw partition formatting IF some conditions are true, I do not want to run the danger of having those conditions not to return true... | 01:07 |
xivulon | I'll turn up a warning anyway so that syslog can still be used to detect above failures without ending up with people on my doorsteps | 01:09 |
xivulon | All of the above will be in my override_files of course | 01:09 |
xivulon | To be precise the installer will quit immidiately with a warning msg if we try to perform any "unsafe operation" when safe-mode is on | 01:16 |
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CIA-18 | migration-assistant: evand * r65 migration-assistant/ (debian/changelog ma-ask): | 04:57 |
CIA-18 | migration-assistant: * Fix logging. | 04:57 |
CIA-18 | migration-assistant: * Fix IFS handling around call to expr. | 04:57 |
CIA-18 | migration-assistant: evand * r66 migration-assistant/debian/changelog: releasing version 0.5.3 | 04:58 |
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seb128 | hi | 05:28 |
seb128 | is ubiquity supposed to have a "resize automatically and install" option? | 05:29 |
xivulon | cjwatson, I did a bit of research, and do not think that creating large contiguous image files fast is an easy task in Linux | 05:32 |
xivulon | the truth to be told that operation is easier in windows, is creating images within autoapartition-loop a strong preference? | 05:34 |
cjwatson_ | seb128: usually but it's not guaranteed - depends on your partition layout | 05:34 |
cjwatson_ | xivulon: talk to me after gutsy or at UDS | 05:35 |
cjwatson_ | I don't have brain-space now :) | 05:35 |
cjwatson_ | seb128: /var/log/partman will have a note buried in it somewhere as to why it isn't being shown | 05:35 |
xivulon | eh I have to ship a release too :P | 05:35 |
seb128 | cjwatson_: I tried on my new laptop yesterday which had one 110G ntfs partition with 10G used | 05:35 |
cjwatson_ | xivulon: in general I have a strong preference for doing partitioning in Linux, but what you do in your release is your business :) | 05:36 |
seb128 | ok, I'll have a look if I still get the issue | 05:36 |
seb128 | I used gparted to resize | 05:36 |
seb128 | and installed on this partition | 05:36 |
evand | cjwatson_: if it's reasonable and you have time, can you upload a new m-a and ubiquity? I don't need it to go on the CD. | 05:36 |
cjwatson_ | seb128: how much unpartitioned space? | 05:36 |
cjwatson_ | or maybe ntfsresize barfed on it | 05:36 |
evand | http://people.ubuntu.com/~evand/upload/migration-assistant_0.5.3.dsc | 05:36 |
xivulon | cjwatson, by the way in case you did not nonticed I submitted a couple of bug reports re sendsigs | 05:37 |
evand | I cannot currently prepare the latter as there's some sort of weird networking issue between me and launchpad/ubuntu.com | 05:37 |
cjwatson_ | evand: ok | 05:37 |
cjwatson_ | xivulon: I didn't notice; I can't get to my mail today | 05:37 |
evand | cjwatson_: thanks, I very much appreciate it | 05:37 |
xivulon | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/partman-auto-loop/+bug/150822 | 05:37 |
seb128 | cjwatson_: none, there is a few Go dell rescue partition, the 110G window vista and like 6-7M which was listed as not partitioned IIRC | 05:38 |
seb128 | cjwatson_: and after the resize and ubuntu installation the windows vista boot choice is not listed which is somewhat annoying, I need to figure what happened there | 05:39 |
seb128 | the "dell utility" item is listed | 05:39 |
seb128 | and Ubuntu | 05:39 |
seb128 | and that's it | 05:39 |
xivulon | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/150831 | 05:39 |
cjwatson_ | seb128: the rescue partitions mean that you almost certainly have three primary partitions | 05:40 |
cjwatson_ | seb128: that's enough to inhibit auto-resize at present. we may be able to relax this in hardy. | 05:40 |
cjwatson_ | seb128: the vista thing should be fixed in today's daily - what were you testing? | 05:41 |
seb128 | I think I had 2 | 05:41 |
seb128 | the vista one and the dell one | 05:41 |
cjwatson_ | seb128: my Dell laptop shipped with three | 05:41 |
seb128 | let me check | 05:41 |
cjwatson_ | xivulon: both look plausible, can you deal with both of those in local overrides for gutsy? | 05:45 |
seb128 | cjwatson_: ah right, there is a 94.1M fat16 partition | 05:48 |
seb128 | cjwatson_: ok, so the resize option is not listed because of the 3 primary partitions? | 05:48 |
seb128 | that's slightly annoying because ubiquity let you no other choice than to format windows | 05:48 |
cjwatson_ | seb128: or manual partitioning, come on :) | 05:49 |
cjwatson_ | seb128: but yeah, I know it sucks, can't fix it for gutsy though | 05:49 |
cjwatson_ | there's a bug filed about it | 05:49 |
cjwatson_ | it's because partman used to think that the root partition absolutely had to be primary | 05:49 |
seb128 | you can resize from manual partitionning? | 05:49 |
cjwatson_ | we can relax that for gutsy because the bootloader installers deal with logicals | 05:49 |
cjwatson_ | seb128: yes, of course | 05:49 |
cjwatson_ | now | 05:49 |
seb128 | I didn't spot the option, closed and used gparted | 05:49 |
cjwatson_ | edit the partition and change the size | 05:49 |
seb128 | that was no obvious to me | 05:50 |
seb128 | and there was no label on the button suggesting I can resize | 05:50 |
seb128 | I didn't try that | 05:50 |
cjwatson_ | we have a design for making it a nice drag thing, but we need gtk/cairo help to actually implement it ... | 05:50 |
seb128 | ok | 05:50 |
cjwatson_ | it's true it's not as obvious as it could be at the moment | 05:50 |
seb128 | and do you have any idea why the vista partition is not listed in grub after installation? | 05:51 |
evand | that may be fixed | 05:51 |
evand | was this a daily desktop CD? If so, what date? | 05:51 |
cjwatson_ | seb128: 16:41 <cjwatson_> seb128: the vista thing should be fixed in today's daily - what were you testing? | 05:52 |
evand | ah, I missed that as well | 05:52 |
seb128 | ups, sorry I didn't read that | 05:52 |
seb128 | I did the installation yesterday afternoon | 05:52 |
seb128 | and that was the daily from yesterday | 05:52 |
cjwatson_ | it was a combination busybox/os-prober bug | 05:52 |
cjwatson_ | fixed yesterday (I hope) | 05:52 |
cjwatson_ | would appreciate re-testing today | 05:52 |
seb128 | I'll try a new installation now | 05:52 |
seb128 | I was about to do it | 05:52 |
seb128 | I've not configured anything on the laptop yet, I will use it to test installs until gutsy | 05:53 |
cjwatson_ | cool | 05:53 |
seb128 | cjwatson_, evand: thanks | 05:53 |
cjwatson_ | laptop refresh program? | 05:53 |
seb128 | yes ;) | 05:53 |
cjwatson_ | worked for me ;-) | 05:54 |
xivulon | cjwatson_: overrides are fine | 05:56 |
cjwatson_ | xivulon: ok, good | 05:56 |
cjwatson_ | those two will be easy to fix when hardy opens | 05:56 |
cjwatson_ | evand: m-a uploaded | 05:56 |
xivulon | cjwatson, quick question is killall5 picky about sendsigs.omit formatting? I mean things like: pidof NOPROCESS >> sendsigs.omit, 2 X pidof sameprocess >> sendisgs.omit, pidof morethanoneprocess >> sendsigs.omit... | 05:59 |
cjwatson_ | if [ -e /var/run/sendsigs.omit ] ; then | 05:59 |
cjwatson_ | for pid in $(cat /var/run/sendsigs.omit); do | 05:59 |
cjwatson_ | OMITPIDS="${OMITPIDS:+$OMITPIDS }-o $pid" | 05:59 |
cjwatson_ | done | 05:59 |
cjwatson_ | fi | 05:59 |
cjwatson_ | duplicates won't matter and nonexistent pids will be ignored | 06:00 |
xivulon | 2 pids in one line? | 06:00 |
cjwatson_ | not a problem | 06:00 |
xivulon | great | 06:00 |
cjwatson_ | it does care that they're all integers | 06:00 |
cjwatson_ | and you aren't allowed more than 16 | 06:01 |
cjwatson_ | (stupid arbitrary limit, sorry, was in a hurry) | 06:01 |
xivulon | you can tell when it's C and not python... | 06:01 |
CIA-18 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r2333 ubiquity/ (configure configure.ac): bump to 1.6.4 | 06:02 |
CIA-18 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r2334 ubiquity/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog): * Automatic update of included source packages: migration-assistant 0.5.3. | 06:04 |
xivulon | cjwatson, maybe you want to consider the latest lupin, rev 52 diff is 1 lines and avoids having to know what $rootmount is in preseed, 53 fixes the bug above (but forgot to check whether pidof is available in initrd). | 06:08 |
cjwatson_ | xivulon: sorry, if it's not completely necessary, it's too late | 06:10 |
xivulon | no big issue | 06:10 |
cjwatson_ | the uploads I'm doing for evand fix serious installer bugs and data loss | 06:10 |
cjwatson_ | they're not casual targets of opportunity :) | 06:10 |
xivulon | well sendsigs/update-grub bugs might be very annoying, but since I am probably the only one on a fuse filesystem, that should be ok for an override | 06:11 |
xivulon | no sendsigs ~ hard-reboot | 06:12 |
cjwatson_ | evand: all of your ubiquity changes are tested, right? | 06:14 |
cjwatson_ | silly question but it's worth checking :) | 06:14 |
cjwatson_ | (I've been known to skip testing obvious changes myself!) | 06:14 |
evand | yes | 06:15 |
evand | if you'd like I can test further, but I tested everything as I went | 06:15 |
evand | on multiple VMs | 06:15 |
cjwatson_ | no, that's fine, I just wanted to be sure as I wasn't sure I understood the ubiquity m-a changes | 06:17 |
cjwatson_ | but I think I grok them now | 06:17 |
bdmurray | Hello, I ran across a bug that might worth looking at. | 06:17 |
bdmurray | bug 145836 regarding ubiquity | 06:17 |
cjwatson_ | bdmurray: most likely unionfs fallout | 06:18 |
cjwatson_ | the suggested fix cannot work unless the filesystem is fucked | 06:18 |
CIA-18 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r2335 ubiquity/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.6.4 | 06:19 |
cjwatson_ | bdmurray: I've commented in the bug to that effect | 06:19 |
bdmurray | Ah, that makes sense. The dailies should not see that issue then? | 06:21 |
cjwatson_ | bdmurray: btw, this is exactly an example of a bug I don't think should be Triaged ;-) | 06:22 |
cjwatson_ | bdmurray: I hope not | 06:22 |
cjwatson_ | (not Triaged => because as a general rule complete system hangs in the live CD are not ubiquity bugs) | 06:22 |
bdmurray | I'll look again but I thought they said they could continue to use the Live CD so that isn't a complete system hang right? | 06:23 |
cjwatson_ | some of them said they couldn't | 06:25 |
cjwatson_ | the installer basically never hangs of its own accord in the range of the progress bar when it's copying files, at any rate | 06:25 |
cjwatson_ | 53% is right in the middle of that | 06:25 |
cjwatson_ | anyway, the point is, to a developer the bug reeks of "live session is irreparably screwed by something outside the installer's control", but I wouldn't expect a QA person without direct installer development experience to know that | 06:26 |
cjwatson_ | it's a good example of where development experience (specifically knowledge of what's going on at that progress bar step) can help work out what's wrong | 06:27 |
bdmurray | I understand your point and what Keybuk mentioned yesterday. However, it seems like only someone familiar with the code could set the bug to Triaged. Which what I recall from Sevilla was not the goal of the Triaged state. I'm under the impression the goal was to identify more complete bugs so developers have a smaller pool of bugs to look at. (Granted this is the ideal workflow.) | 06:30 |
cjwatson_ | honestly, I would find a state that meant "I have (or somebody I trust to know this code has) looked at this bug and agree it is a problem in this package" much more useful | 06:31 |
cjwatson_ | because that lets me use those bugs as a list of things to spend hacking time fixing | 06:31 |
cjwatson_ | whereas the Triaged state as you define it just produces a slightly different list of things I need to look at and accept, which really isn't a significant improvement over Confirmed | 06:32 |
cjwatson_ | it certainly isn't worth the extra bug state to me | 06:33 |
bdmurray | I think the triaged state is worth discussing in more detail then. Perhaps at UDS? | 06:37 |
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cjwatson_ | bdmurray: *nod* | 06:41 |
xivulon | "Triage is a system of sorting patients according to need when resources are insufficient for all to be treated.". Hmm that's a method not a status... | 06:41 |
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cjwatson_ | "triaged" is the past participle of "triage" and thus has a more adjectival meaning | 06:42 |
xivulon | Hmm but if treage is a "system of sorting", triaged means "sorted"... Doesn't say much about the sorting order... In fact then there are triaged "tags" | 06:43 |
xivulon | but english is not my thing... | 06:43 |
cjwatson_ | triaged means "the nurse (bug investigator) has looked at the patient (the bug) and agreed that he (it) needs to see a doctor (a developer)" | 06:45 |
cjwatson_ | (I think the state is misnamed as well as less than useful ;-)) | 06:45 |
cjwatson_ | well, actually, it's probably correctly named with its current definition | 06:45 |
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xivulon | Guess that's when there are no nurses around, we should stick to triaged then... | 06:47 |
seb128 | I'm trying a daily install on my laptop | 07:24 |
seb128 | looks like it's blocked on the langpack installation (87% not moving for some time), my wireless connection is not activated (didn't pick it in network manager), is that expected? | 07:25 |
evand | yeah, I'm working on a fix for tht | 07:25 |
evand | that* | 07:25 |
evand | cjwatson_: do you think checking n-m for an active connection, since we use it by default now, would be reasonable? | 07:25 |
cjwatson_ | perhaps for hardy | 07:26 |
cjwatson_ | I think we're stuck with what we've got now | 07:26 |
evand | ok | 07:26 |
evand | even for kubuntu where it freezes, or is that important enough for a fix before release? | 07:27 |
seb128 | how do I continue the installation? | 07:35 |
seb128 | it's stucked at 87% there | 07:35 |
evand | seb128: is this an ubuntu daily or kubuntu? | 07:35 |
seb128 | ubuntu | 07:37 |
evand | argh, so it's just locking up rather than giving you a dialog that it cannot find the language packs? | 07:37 |
seb128 | yes | 07:38 |
seb128 | the progress bar is at 87% for a while now | 07:39 |
seb128 | I started the install, closed the lid, went away, came back half an hour later and it was stucked to 87% | 07:39 |
seb128 | and it's still there | 07:39 |
evand | yikes. I think the only thing you can do is give it a network connection and restart the install. | 07:41 |
seb128 | doh | 07:42 |
seb128 | that's not nice | 07:42 |
evand | indeed, sorry. I'm looking for a solution. | 07:44 |
seb128 | no problem | 07:47 |
seb128 | I've not stopped it | 07:47 |
seb128 | if you need any debug info let me know | 07:47 |
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cjwatson_ | I don't think this is any worse than previous releases | 08:01 |
cjwatson_ | this isn't a new problem, though it may have morphed a bit | 08:01 |
seb128 | that's the first time I run into it | 08:03 |
seb128 | but usually I'm playing with the CD during install so I activate the network ;) | 08:03 |
cjwatson_ | it's fine if there's say a proxy that actively rejects the packets | 08:07 |
cjwatson_ | if the packets just get dropped, that's when it breaks | 08:07 |
cjwatson_ | we have an item on the UDS schedule for fixing this properly | 08:07 |
seb128 | ok, cool | 08:07 |
seb128 | there used to be a "cancel" button during the language pack downloads no? | 08:08 |
xivulon | where do I find the UDS schedule? | 08:14 |
seb128 | cjwatson_, evand: do you have a bug number about the language pack download bug? | 08:22 |
evand | seb128: yes, it used to have a cancel button. And bug #145012. | 08:24 |
evand | xivulon: afaik, there's no published schedule yet. | 08:25 |
seb128 | evand: thanks | 08:26 |
cjwatson_ | xivulon: on the whiteboard in the London office | 08:27 |
cjwatson_ | we're working on it ;-) | 08:27 |
seb128 | doh | 08:35 |
seb128 | and how do I workaround the language pack bug on a computer without network? | 08:35 |
seb128 | I've a desktop with a wired card but not network plug near to use right now | 08:36 |
seb128 | and the installation is stucked there the same way | 08:36 |
evand | install in english | 08:36 |
seb128 | and I can't activate any network | 08:36 |
seb128 | that has to be rc | 08:36 |
seb128 | or any non english install will fail if you have no network connection? | 08:36 |
cjwatson_ | are any network interfaces up? | 08:36 |
cjwatson_ | ifconfig? | 08:36 |
seb128 | yes | 08:37 |
seb128 | eth0 is up | 08:37 |
seb128 | but not configured | 08:37 |
cjwatson_ | I wonder why? | 08:37 |
cjwatson_ | err, up but not configured? | 08:37 |
cjwatson_ | can you paste ifconfig output? | 08:37 |
seb128 | I mean no IP | 08:37 |
seb128 | no, this computer has no network :p | 08:38 |
seb128 | I can type though | 08:38 |
seb128 | something similar to | 08:38 |
seb128 | eth1 Lien encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:40:05:5E:A8:68 | 08:38 |
seb128 | adr inet6: fe80::240:5ff:fe5e:a868/64 Scope:Lien | 08:38 |
seb128 | UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 | 08:38 |
seb128 | Packets reus:0 erreurs:0 :0 overruns:0 frame:0 | 08:38 |
seb128 | TX packets:0 errors:6 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:12 | 08:38 |
seb128 | collisions:102 lg file transmission:1000 | 08:38 |
seb128 | Octets reus:0 (0.0 b) Octets transmis:468 (468.0 b) | 08:38 |
seb128 | Interruption:19 Adresse de base:0xc000 | 08:38 |
seb128 | that is an another computer | 08:38 |
seb128 | I don't think details count | 08:39 |
seb128 | I mean the HWaddr, etc | 08:39 |
seb128 | I didn't touch the intefaces, I guess that's network-manager work | 08:40 |
cjwatson_ | or casper, conceivably | 08:41 |
cjwatson_ | I think probably not thouygh | 08:41 |
cjwatson_ | though | 08:41 |
cjwatson_ | seb128: anything non-comment in /etc/network/interfaces? | 08:41 |
seb128 | cjwatson_: the 2 lines about lo and that's everything | 08:49 |
seb128 | no commented lines | 08:49 |
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CIA-18 | ubiquity: evand * r2336 ubiquity/ (configure configure.ac): bump to 1.6.5 | 09:42 |
CIA-18 | ubiquity: evand * r2337 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/frontend/kde_ui.py): | 09:47 |
CIA-18 | ubiquity: * Revert accidental copy and paste of migration-assistant specific | 09:47 |
CIA-18 | ubiquity: code (LP: #151051). | 09:47 |
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