[02:05] <bspencer> rustyl, mjg59  I got clutter running.  Default image doesn't have /etc/xdg/menus
[02:05] <rustyl> rustyl, yea, me too
[02:05] <bspencer> but after putting that down I'm able to get something wiggling on the Samsung.
[02:06] <rustyl> but it runs really really slow... i'm attempting to install libgl1-mesa-dri, but the libgl packages seem to be in flux, so the install fails on a dependency that doesn't exists yet
[02:06] <bspencer> note as fluid as I'd hoped
[02:06] <bspencer> rustyl, I got that working
[02:06] <bspencer> 3D games work ok
[02:07] <bspencer> my image is not LPIA though
[02:07] <rustyl> i'm updating again and will attempt the apt-install again
[02:07] <bspencer> it is a week old
[02:07] <rustyl> bspencer, you mean lpiacomat
[02:07] <bspencer> right. 
[02:07] <bspencer> it is just mccasslin i386
[02:09] <rustyl> bspencer, mjg59, i went ahead and uploaded a fix to gstreamer-dbus-media-service.  The source now registers itself as org.moblin.MobileMediaSerivce with a changelog entry set as 'gutsy' in anticipation of pushing to the gutsy apt repository
[02:10] <rustyl> damn... still waiting on libgl1-mesa-glx (= 7.0.0-0ubuntu3)
[02:10] <mjg59> rustyl: Sweet, thanks
[02:10] <rustyl> the player still needs some love
[02:16] <bspencer> rustyl, mirror :)
[02:17] <bspencer> rustyl,   mjg59 also mentioned that the mobile player didn't have MobileMediaService as an install dependency
[03:13] <rustyl> mjg59, i just found something else that needs to be change in the gstreamer-dbus-media-service
[08:17] <dholbach> good morning
[12:25] <xyzzy_bill> Hey, guys.  What do you think of Google's GPhone OS effort?
[12:25] <mjg59> When we've seen it, we might be able to tell you
[12:42] <xyzzy_bill> As I understand it, Ubuntu-Mobile will not be of much use to smartphones, though I do see it listed in the mission statement.  Is there any effort to push towards phones?
[12:42] <mjg59> Not as yet
[12:43] <xyzzy_bill> Because frankly, the Samsung Q Ultra has the sex appeal of an Elephant.
[12:46] <mjg59> The Q1 is primarily a development platform for the MID hardware
[12:46] <mjg59> (from a UME perspective)
[04:16] <xyzzy_bill> Hey, guys... I'm really just interested in smartphone sw dev.  OpenMoko looks like it's making progress, though it could go under or be eclipsed by something else.
[04:16] <xyzzy_bill> Would you guys suggest I drop interest in Ubuntu Mobile for smartphones, and go join OpenMoko for smartphone dev?
[04:19] <smagoun> xyzzy_bill: A number of people have expressed interest in Ubuntu for smartphones, but it's not something being worked on. You're welcome to start such a project!
[06:35] <rustyl> Anyone know anything about the status of uploading libgl1-mesa-glx  version 7.0.0-0ubuntu3 in the ports apt repository?  This has been blocking my ability to install libgl1-mesa-dri since yesterday.
[06:36] <rustyl> or at least, yesterday is the first time i ever tried to install lbgl1-mesa-dri
[06:52] <bspencer> agoliveira, morning
[06:53] <bspencer> agoliveira, about claws + hildon, I saw your email to frank last night.  If I install claws today inside LPIA target, will it be Hildon?
[06:53] <agoliveira> bspencer: Good afternoon around here but it's the spirit that counts :)
[06:53] <bspencer> Goooooood afternoooon!!
[06:54] <agoliveira> bspencer: It should but there's a bug on the build that I already solved. I'm just finishing somehting before and make a final test before ask for upload it.
[06:55] <bspencer> can you let me know when it is done?  I'm bugging Frank to add some fixes to claws and he's pointing fingers
[06:55] <bspencer> (not that your work is blocking, but it is nice if we can verify everything is working good)
[06:56] <bspencer> anyway, just put it on your list.  thanks!
[06:58] <agoliveira> bspencer: No problem.
[08:04] <bspencer> is it possible to tell whether a package is part of a bigger meta package?
[08:04] <bspencer> for example, i want to put 3D hardware driver as an install requirement for my clutter UI, but this will be different for each platform
[08:05] <bspencer> perhaps there is a meta package for 3d hardware drivers   (e.g. libgl1-mesa-dri)    :)
[08:45] <amitk> anybody on who uses a crownbeach?
[08:46] <amitk> rustyl, bspencer: could you find me a scapegoat^Wbeta-tester who as a crownbeach board?
[08:48] <rob_moblin> amitk, what do you need?
[08:48] <amitk> rob_moblin: some to test a crownbeach kernel
[08:50] <rob_moblin> amitk: i've got cb hw 
[08:51] <rob_moblin> and either myself or one of minions can test it ;-)
[08:52] <rob_moblin> amitk, btw how is the crown beach hw we sent you holding up?
[08:52] <rob_moblin> amitk, meet Inuka 
[08:52] <rob_moblin> Inuka, meet amitk
[08:53] <rob_moblin> Inuka, amitk needs our help to test a CB kernel on a CB platform
[08:53] <amitk> rob_moblin: brilliant. Could you boot with linux-headers-2.6.22-14-lpia_2.6.22-14.41_lpia.deb, linux-headers-2.6.22-14_2.6.22-14.41_all.deb, linux-image-2.6.22-14-lpia_2.6.22-14.41_lpia.deb, linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-14-lpia_2.6.22-14.35_lpia.deb from  http://people.ubuntu.com/~amitk/  
[08:53] <amitk> hi Inuka
[08:53] <Inuka> hi, amit
[08:53] <Inuka> amit, I will give it a shot and let you know
[08:54] <amitk> rob_moblin: it's hold up fine. I just don't have SDIO HW at the moment.
[08:55] <amitk> Inuka: Could you test some SDIO, SDHC and that psb loads and thermal shows what you need it to show.
[08:55] <rob_moblin> amitk, do you mean the COMMS hw that connects over SDIO ? you should have SDIO controller as it's in the poulsbo chipset
[08:55] <amitk> Inuka: I have done the latter two, but confirmation would be good
[08:56] <amitk> rob_moblin: I don't have and SDIO peripheral handy right now
[08:57] <amitk> s/and/any
[08:57] <rob_moblin> amitk: what sdio drivers do you have configured in the kernel?
[08:58] <rob_moblin> amitk, we don't really have any sdio peripherals either, other than the same sdio dev board that mauri gave to someone from ubuntu in boston
[08:59] <amitk> rob_moblin: just mss_sdhci.ko at the moment
[08:59] <amitk> and I don't have an SDHC card handy either :/
[09:00] <amitk> rob_moblin: I have the sdio dev board from Mauri, but it is at my old place. Need to go fetch it this weekend.
[09:01] <rob_moblin> amitk, if you had the sd8686 driver configured in the kernel we could test that out, otherwise we could try some sd memory cards
[09:01] <amitk> rob_moblin: sd8686 driver is in there.. but you will have to copy the firmware manually into /lib/firmware/blahblahblah
[09:02] <rob_moblin> ok
[09:05] <rob_moblin> amitk, inuka will download and test your kernels, it might take him the day to get it configured and tested out 
[09:06] <amitk> rob_moblin, Inuka: sure. Send me email if you run into problems. I am almost done here for the day.
[09:06] <amitk> Inuka: I tried this using image-creator and then manually installing the new kernels into the filesystem chroot
[09:07] <amitk> Inuka: rob_moblin: thanks
[09:08] <Inuka> amitk, I will let you know as soon as I get it setup