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MitoTraninFYI if anyone is wanting to take a gamble on linux compatibility:  http://www.woot.com/01:21
MitoTraningreat deal... if it works with linux01:21
superm1well why gamble? google it?01:22
superm1figure out the hardware it uses01:22
superm1chipset wise01:22
superm1and query linuxtv.org?01:22
MitoTraninit's a brand new card not on the market yet (thus the rocket next to the picture)01:24
MitoTraninit's given to woot.com for it's launch...01:25
MitoTraninso I don't know how much detail is on the net yet01:25
superm1oh i doubt support then01:25
MitoTraninit's not of much use to me right now though, as I have zero HD signal at my house for over-the-air and I don't feel like paying for HDTV content anytime soon01:26
superm1well too bad i have absolutely no need for another hd tuner01:26
superm1i'm happy with 3 :)01:26
MitoTranin(actually I've already had a pcHD3000 card and sold it via ebay because I couldn't get enough use out of it)01:27
MitoTraninsuperm1: well... then... go buy that plextor to help me figure out exactly how to get it to work right :)01:27
MitoTraninMr. Moneypants :)01:28
superm1haha01:30
tazgodxhmmm, only button that i see that doesn't work on my remote is the back/exit button. is there a way to configure that as an esc keypress?01:30
superm1tazgodx, its been setup that way as of the latest updates01:31
superm1tazgodx, open up mcc and hit regenerate dynamic buttons01:31
superm1and restart mythfrontend01:31
superm1you need mythbuntu-lirc-generator 0.14-0ubuntu1 for it01:31
superm1which was released yesterday01:31
tazgodxmcc? :)01:32
=== superm1 smacks therethinker
superm1get mythbot working again01:32
superm1mythbuntu-control-centre01:32
foxbuntutazgodx, if its does not resovle it let me know specificly01:32
therethinkerWhy?01:33
therethinkerWhat'd I do01:33
therethinkerOh01:33
therethinkerYeah, its getting better01:33
tazgodxquick question is there a way i can make mythbuntu output to my VGA instead of only S-Video? cause my TV SUCKS as a TV monitor...01:33
therethinkerit can now query ubotu privately01:34
tazgodxssh has been my friend for a while on this box01:34
rhpot1991use vnc01:35
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therethinker$mcc01:35
mythbotThe Mythbuntu Control Centre is a GUI used to configure the system.  From here you can select what kind of system (Backend, Frontend, Both) you want.  You can also install different desktops such as ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop.  Install Plugins.  Configure MySQL.    Set passwords, install proprietary drivers, proprietary codecs, setup remote controls, and a range of other bells and whistles.  MCC is the cat's pajamas.01:35
rhpot1991then you don't need to worry about it01:35
tazgodxvnc huh01:35
=== therethinker smacks foxbuntu
superm1therethinker, can you set him up so we can teach him things in irc01:36
superm1if he checks to make sure we are who we claim we are and such01:36
rhpot1991tazgodx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC01:36
tazgodxis vnc installed by default on mythbuntu, or do i have to install?01:36
superm1tazgodx, install it via mcc01:36
MitoTranintazgodx: you can install it via the mcc01:36
therethinkersuperm1: yep, thast my next task01:36
MitoTraninthat will configure it etc for you too01:36
rhpot1991superm1 he only has ssh access right now01:37
rhpot1991or thats how I took it01:37
tazgodxhaha, ok :)01:37
Davieytherethinker: You know ubotu's src is avaliable?01:37
superm1tazgodx, again make sure that you update to the latest mcc.  0.8-0ubuntu101:37
therethinkerDaviey01:38
therethinkerYeah01:38
tazgodxupdateing now01:38
therethinkerDaviey: Yeah, but I didn't like it01:38
DavieyBloated eh?01:38
therethinkerNot bloated... just...01:38
therethinkerIt would be awkward to use with my setup01:38
therethinkerit depended on .cgi's for web pages -- I don't have that setup.01:39
therethinkerThe web thing for mythbot was simple, thanks to django :P01:39
therethinkerYeah, so watch this01:39
therethinker$0gqwhg0w01:39
mythbotNeither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about this01:39
=== therethinker does eye gesture
superm1and if you do something ubotu knows01:40
superm1what happens?01:40
therethinkerIt will say01:40
superm1$medibuntu01:40
therethinkerbut I can't think of anything wikipedia knows that ubotu won't :P01:40
mythbotSorry, I don't know anything about medibuntu. Wikipedia: "The Penguin Liberation Front (PLF) provides packages of so-called 'endangered software' - free software with a questionable legal status in some countries - for Linux users and developers." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medibuntu.01:40
superm1hm ubotu should have known that before wikipedia did01:40
therethinkerI know01:40
superm1lets try another01:41
therethinkerBut it's a pain...01:41
superm1!automatix01:41
ubotuAutomatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)01:41
mythbotAlthough I didn't know, ubotu says:Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)01:41
superm1$automatix01:41
mythbotSorry, I don't know anything about automatix. Wikipedia: "Automatix Inc., founded in January 1980, was the first company to market industrial robots with built-in machine vision." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatix.01:41
superm1wha?01:41
therethinkerWhoa01:41
therethinkerI think mythbot also responds to !01:41
therethinker!therethinker01:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about therethinker - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:41
mythbotNeither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about this01:41
superm1haha.01:41
tazgodxhaha01:41
superm1okay well that needs to change :)01:41
therethinkerWhat?! Who deleted me?01:41
therethinkerYEah01:41
therethinkerBugs galore :P01:41
superm1$superm101:42
mythbotsuperm1 is the programmer who is in charge of Mythbuntu.01:42
foxbuntu$foxbuntu01:42
mythbotfoxbuntu is a mythbuntu dev, he is leet. tgm4883 wishes he was as leet as foxbuntu.01:42
foxbuntu:)01:42
therethinkerI need to lock you out from changing things :P01:42
foxbuntutherethinker, I didnt change anything01:42
foxbuntu:)01:42
Daviey$Daviey01:42
mythbotNeither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about this01:42
tazgodx$TazgodX01:42
therethinkerAww... you're unloved01:43
mythbotNeither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about this01:43
therethinkerOh01:43
therethinkerI forgot to tell you01:43
therethinkerWhenever you add a command, it must be in all lower case01:43
tazgodxshould say, "pain in the ass who doesn't do anything but ask questions"01:43
Davieyah01:43
therethinkerwithout !, ?, |, ., or .01:43
therethinkerI'll fix that01:43
therethinker$Daviey01:43
mythbotDaviey rocks the casbah \o/ and is a Mythbuntu dev01:43
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therethinkerYou still need to do that... I fixed just daviey's entry01:44
tgm4883_laptoptazgodx, thats not entirely accurate.  You forgot Sony Fanboy01:44
tazgodxyeah that too01:44
rhpot1991anyone here ever mess with openwrt?01:47
superm1yeah i use it01:47
tgm4883_laptopi played with it a bit, but went back to ddwrt01:47
rhpot1991just ordered this today: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833320008&Tpk=wl-500g01:47
rhpot1991plan on running openwrt on it01:47
superm1seems pretty pricey for a router just to use openwrt01:48
rhpot1991I got fed up with this belkin PoS and its randomly dieing anything I do anything intensive01:48
superm1ooh but 2 usb's01:48
rhpot1991you know it01:48
rhpot1991usb hard drive it up then I can run things right on the router01:48
rhpot1991also I can experiment with hooking it up to my roomba then too01:49
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rhpot1991I'm wishful that my printer will be able to be hosted by it01:50
rhpot1991out of the box it can do that, but I'm not convinced openwrt will be able to01:51
superm1why?01:52
rhpot1991driver support01:52
superm1cups should be available01:52
tgm4883_laptopsuperm1, take a loot at the about page and let me know if I need to fix anything01:52
rhpot1991is cups available in openwrt?01:52
superm1via x-wrt i thought01:52
rhpot1991last time I tried to install this (canon pixma ip8500) in linux things didn't go well01:52
superm1never had a router with usb though, so i didn't look into it too much :)01:53
rhpot1991I was trying to install amd64 a few years back though, so many things didn't work or weren't available01:53
superm1tgm4883_laptop, where did this come from? http://www.mythbuntu.org/files/images/usplash.preview.png01:53
superm1i didn't know we had a usplash like that :)01:53
tgm4883_laptopyep :)01:53
superm1tgm4883_laptop, switch code and m-c-c01:53
tgm4883_laptopi pulled it from mythbuntu-artwork per info from foxbuntu01:54
superm1and then i think it looks good01:54
tgm4883_laptopok01:54
tgm4883_laptopfixed01:56
tazgodxyou know what you guys should add to the MCC system services thing, or somewhere, that no-ip.com prog to give you a dynamic IP at all times01:57
superm1tgm4883_laptop, one more thing.  can you add more space between desktop and m-c-c01:57
superm1so the pics don't all overlap01:57
superm1height wise01:57
tgm4883_laptopthe pics or the wording?01:58
superm1well lower the m-c-c title01:58
superm1and everything else will follow01:58
superm1i'd think01:58
tgm4883_laptopah ok01:58
tazgodxok superm1, where is the "regenerate dynamic buttons"?01:58
superm1on the remote control tab01:58
=== DaveMorris hates the way you offer to help some one with a build problem at work even though your off for a couple of days, but they never mail you the details etc for you to sort it out!
tazgodxoh, its a checkbox...got it :) thanks01:59
tgm4883_laptopfixed again01:59
superm1yeah that looks great02:00
=== Daviey bed - nn
superm1nn02:00
DaveMorrisnight Dav02:01
DaveMorrisDaviey: even02:01
foxbuntu_tazgodx, I found an error in my update (0.14-0ubuntu1) of the lirc-generator...that won't fix your back button...however the error has been resolved in further testing and when we can release 0.15 it will be fixed so you can just generate new keys02:04
tazgodxok, i was gonna say, its still not working02:07
superm1tgm4883_laptop, okay i'll add that page to m-d-s02:07
superm1in a cached variant02:07
superm1we're going to need release notes too, since the installer links to them.  but not for at least a week02:07
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Xenocidetgm4883_laptop just got back from errands rebooting into myth buntu in one second02:12
therethinkerHmm02:12
therethinkerthis is hard02:12
therethinkerFor some reason, it responds to ubotu02:13
therethinkerwhich isn't good02:13
therethinker!cheese02:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cheese - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:13
Xenocidesuperm1 should i use 1366x768 if the tv supports it or just 1280x768?02:14
tgm4883_laptopXenocide, I'm not sure you can use 1366x76802:15
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mythbotI'm a person02:17
tazgodxin MCC if i enable NFS, does that configure anything or just enable it for me to configure?02:17
Xenocidetgm4883_laptop im getting some scan lines too :(02:19
therethinkerHey can some one help me test?02:19
therethinkerJust pop in #mythbot02:19
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pdragonwow... those hdtv cards are still up on woot.com. they must be spectacular :p02:30
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foxbuntu_$laga02:30
mythbotlaga is a programmer from the other side of the ocean for Mythtv. Therefore, it is probably best to not listen to him.02:30
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therethinkerOh my got02:32
therethinker*god02:32
therethinkersorry, I didn't mean to switch him quite yet :P02:32
pdragonheh... might want to wait a day or two after you think he's ready ;)02:34
therethinkerI think he's ready ready02:36
therethinkerI thought he was ready last night :P02:36
tazgodxtime to try to set up NFS02:36
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therethinkerHello mythbot!02:39
mythbotHello therethinker.02:39
therethinkerShould we put something in the room topic about mythbot?02:39
foxbuntu_Hi mythbot02:39
mythbotHi foxbuntu_.02:39
therethinkerIsn't he lovable? :P02:39
tazgodxoh, maybe it is set up :)02:39
foxbuntu_g'day mythbot02:39
therethinkerhi mythbot!?02:40
foxbuntu_mythbot, do you love laga?02:40
therethinkermythbot!?02:40
therethinkerStop playing with him D:02:40
foxbuntu_hes broken again02:40
therethinkerNo he isn't02:40
therethinker$mcc02:40
mythbotThe Mythbuntu Control Centre is a GUI used to configure the system.  From here you can select what kind of system (Backend, Frontend, Both) you want.  You can also install different desktops such as ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop, install plugins, configure MySQL, set passwords, install proprietary drivers, proprietary codecs, setup remote controls, and a range of other bells and whistles.02:40
therethinker.gc Mythbuntu02:40
foxbuntu_$lovelagalongtime02:40
mythbotNeither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "please don't", sorry.02:40
tazgodx$tazgodx02:41
mythbotNeither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "tazgodx", sorry.02:41
=== tazgodx cries
foxbuntu_$foxbuntu02:41
mythbotfoxbuntu is a mythbuntu dev, he is leet. tgm4883 wishes he was as leet as foxbuntu.02:41
therethinker$infect tazgodz02:41
mythbot/me takes control of tazgodz's computer, formats the hard drive, and installs Windows ME on it.02:41
therethinker$infect tazgodx02:41
mythbot/me takes control of tazgodx's computer, formats the hard drive, and installs Windows ME on it.02:41
tazgodxlol02:41
foxbuntu_lol02:41
therethinkerthey'res 2 more02:41
rhpot1991tazgodx you can set up nfs shares to auto mount in /etc/fstab, thats how I did mine02:41
foxbuntu_$crush laga02:42
tazgodxyeah, im bout to set that up02:42
therethinkeryeah, that's how I did it02:42
mythbotNeither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "crush laga", sorry.02:42
rhpot1991I didn't see it mentioned earlier so I wanted to toss it out there02:42
tazgodx$poke therethinker02:42
mythbotNeither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "please don't", sorry.02:42
pdragonthat cant be right02:42
tazgodxtoo long02:42
therethinkerStp[02:43
therethinker*Stop02:43
therethinkerstop trying to figure out the $ commands :P02:43
therethinkerThey're seacrets :P02:43
tazgodxhaha, someone needs to know then02:43
therethinker*guards heavily*02:43
tazgodxthem02:43
therethinkerId do :P02:43
foxbuntu_therethinker, I am just gonna look them up02:43
therethinkerhow?02:43
therethinkerThey're not in the DB02:43
therethinkerThey're semihardcoded02:43
foxbuntu_$infect therethinker02:43
rhpot1991they are at least being nice about it, we would always try to pass rm -rf's to my friends bot and see if it would delete itself02:43
mythbot/me takes control of therethinker's computer, formats the hard drive, and installs Windows ME on it.02:43
foxbuntu_thats how02:44
therethinkerOkay, lets stop02:44
foxbuntu_muwhaaa!02:44
tazgodxhaha, didn't hardcode a way for it not to be used on you did ya?02:44
therethinkerrhpo1991 is trying to get help02:44
foxbuntu_k02:44
foxbuntu_rhpot1991, what did you need?02:44
therethinker*rhpot199102:44
rhpot1991I'm not02:44
rhpot1991heh02:44
therethinkerOh, sorry :P02:44
pdragonback to bot abuse!02:44
therethinkerYou're saying things that actually have to do with the channel :P02:44
therethinkerNoo!02:44
pdragon$whack off02:44
therethinkerI don't want superm1 to ban it02:45
mythbot/me whacks off02:45
rhpot1991unless someone is gonna fix mythtv.pm missing from feisty02:45
therethinkerOkay, I'll tell you, just so you stop guessing02:45
foxbuntu_off to dinner folks02:45
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foxbuntu_bye mythbot02:45
therethinker$poke pdragon02:45
mythbotstabs pdragon violently with a rusty spoon02:45
pdragonouchie02:45
foxbuntu_bye mythbot02:45
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Xenocidetgm4883_laptop im having some dependency problems02:46
therethinker$crush foxbuntu02:46
mythbotpummels foxbuntu to the ground!!!02:46
foxbuntu_$crush laga02:46
mythbotpummels laga to the ground!!!02:46
foxbuntu_YAY!!!02:46
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therethinkerSorry,02:46
therethinker$crush laga02:46
mythbotpummels laga to the ground!!!02:46
foxbuntu_YAY!!02:46
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therethinkerNOOWW do it :P02:46
therethinkerWait, don't02:46
therethinkerI don't support this bot abuse >_>02:46
therethinker$crush laga02:47
mythbot/me pummels laga to the ground!!!02:47
therethinkerSorry, can't help self02:47
foxbuntu_$poke mythbot02:47
mythbot/me stabs mythbot violently with a rusty spoon02:47
tazgodxhaha02:47
foxbuntu_$poke ubotu02:47
mythbot/me stabs ubotu violently with a rusty spoon02:47
tazgodxpoke worked02:47
therethinkerYeah02:47
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foxbuntu_nice work therethinker02:48
therethinkerI added some, forgot the /me02:48
therethinkerThank you :-)02:48
foxbuntu_entertainment02:48
therethinkerNow back to real work02:48
tazgodxi had that one, but used a name too long02:48
tazgodx:(02:48
foxbuntu_be back later...gonna grab a bite02:48
tazgodxim really starting to like mythbuntu!02:49
tazgodxty guys! :)02:49
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pdragonfun ain't it?02:49
therethinker2I geues..02:49
therethinker2sorry :P02:49
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therethinker2Hello!02:50
therethinker2Do you need help?02:50
mdmcmullhey guys, just tried out mythbuntu and tried to play a DVD and it won't play. Looked at the logs, and it says encrypted dvd support is not present... I guess I need to install libdvdcss2 ?02:51
pdragonyep02:51
therethinker2You can do that in mcc02:51
tazgodxtahts in the mcc02:51
MythbuntuGuest45superm1 as soon as i install restricted nvidia driver i get that screen cut in half stuff again02:51
pdragonoh it's added now?02:51
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mdmcmullah, cool.  I'll check the mcc now02:51
therethinker2do you know what mcc is? (we're very eager to use our new bot :P)02:52
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superm1Xenocide, sounds like a personal problem02:53
superm1take a picture02:53
superm1and show us02:53
tgm4883_laptopMythbuntuGuest45, what resolution?02:53
Xenocide1280x76802:53
Xenocideworks fine on vesa drivers02:53
Xenocidesuperm1 this is the same setup i used on feisty02:53
Xenocidejust the lcd tv now02:53
tgm4883_laptopwhat card02:53
superm1Xenocide, well like i said the tv can be your issue here02:53
Xenocidegeforce 620002:53
superm1that's why i wanted to see you try it with a monitor02:53
Xenocidewhy would it work fine with vesa drivers though02:53
tgm4883_laptopXenocide, what driver?02:53
Xenocidenvidia glx new02:54
tgm4883_laptopuse nvidia glx02:54
Xenocidelet me take a pic then ill try that02:54
superm1you can switch over by apt-get install nvidia-glx (that will remove nvidia-glx-new)02:54
superm1but yeah i'm curious to see this in action02:54
tazgodxare there plans to implement the installation of a serial ir blaster?02:55
Xenocideim assuming live cd automatically uses restricted drivers thats why i couldn't use it02:55
superm1tazgodx, yeah but its deffered until hardy02:55
superm1or deferred even02:55
superm1Xenocide, no it doesnt02:55
superm1Xenocide, it uses the 'nv' driver02:56
Xenocidehm02:56
tazgodxuntil hardy?02:56
superm1Xenocide, if you chose safe graphics mode on the cd, it would use vesa02:56
Xenocide[IMG] http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v362/xenner/IMG_0330.jpg[/IMG] 02:56
superm1tazgodx, ubuntu 8.0402:56
Xenocidesafe mode crashed all together said can't open tty02:56
tazgodxahhh, they already have the name for it?02:56
superm1yeah hardy heron02:56
Xenocideinstalling nvidia-glx now02:56
Xenocidesee if that works..02:56
superm1Xenocide, okay so its not that its cut off02:57
superm1its that it is off centre02:57
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Xenocidewell how would i fix that02:57
superm1how is it hooked up?02:57
Xenocidevga cable to tv02:57
superm1go in the tv menu system02:57
Xenocidei had the dvi to hdmi but you told me to buy a differen't cable02:57
superm1and hit the auto sync focus option02:57
superm1most tv's have it for vga02:58
Xenocideok. let me put the old driver back02:58
superm1its the equivalent of the "Auto" option on a regular LCD monitor02:58
tazgodxok, i have a few quick problems, but i can live with them i guess. when i close mythtv-frontend, i have like 5 network managers open in my bar.02:58
therethinker.weather bos02:58
Xenocideauto adjust didnt' seem to work...02:58
superm1tazgodx, that's fixed for the RC02:58
tazgodxalso, i just put in a DVD and it opened an explorer window over mythtv-frontend02:58
pdragontazgodx: there's a bug in for that. fixed for rc. how to fix it is in the bug report02:59
superm1tazgodx, that is a trouble though with the dvd, can you file a report on that?02:59
pdragonit's actually fixed in an update that's out now. don't know what package but updating fixes it02:59
superm1mythbuntu-default-settings02:59
superm1fixes it02:59
tazgodxi just updated02:59
superm1and network manager02:59
superm1the combo of the two02:59
superm1you have to rm ~/.cache -rf02:59
superm1to get rid of the extras though03:00
therethinkerI'm going to hit the hay, bye ;-)03:00
superm1night therethinker03:00
therethinkerthanks superm103:00
tazgodxok so i just have to run "rm ~/.cache -rf" after my update to get those fixes to work?03:01
superm1that should be it03:02
superm1pdragon, you reported the mplayer issue yesterday right?03:02
pdragonyes. i just turned the screensaver off back in xfce and everything worked fine03:02
superm1pdragon, well it should also be fixed in the mplayer upload i did yesterday03:02
superm1after you told me about it, i decided to investigate it03:02
mdmcmulljust a comment, I found the option to install libdvdcss2 in mcc, and also w32codecs. But that fails on AMD64 -- it should be w64codecs on that platform :)03:03
superm1mdmcmull, yeah therethinker is on it :)03:03
pdragonsuperm1: alright. i'll turn the screensaver back on and update after Heroes is over :)03:03
mdmcmullanyhow, libdvdcss2 installed fine now, so I can watch dvds -- thanks so much for the help! :-)03:03
superm1oh that's right heroes is tonight03:03
superm1i probably won't be able to watch it for a few days though :(03:04
pdragonthat's what mythtv is for! :)03:04
tazgodxhmm, inserting my dvd again, after that command, still opens a window over my mythtv-frontend03:04
superm1tazgodx, yeah like i said, we need a bug report on that :)03:04
superm1it will have to be investigated still03:04
Xenocidesuperm1 i adjusted it manually, but now my optoins aren't comming up in myth-setup03:04
superm1Xenocide, what options03:05
Xenocidechannels, setup, tuners03:05
Xenocidethe white ones03:05
tazgodxwhere do i submit bug reports?03:05
Xenocidenot showing up03:05
superm1tazgodx, http://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu03:05
superm1Xenocide, the text is missing?03:06
superm1or what03:06
tazgodxreport thta bug now03:06
Xenocideyes superm103:06
Xenocideif i use the arrows and enter i can get to them, but i know which ones they are from setting it up before03:07
Xenocidebut no text shows03:07
superm1Xenocide, sounds like you are missing msttcorefonts03:07
Xenocideit did give me a dependency error earlier03:08
superm1what error?03:08
Xenocidebut i just checked, and those are installed03:08
Xenocideit was something with fonts03:08
superm1when installign mythbuntu-desktop?03:08
Xenocideyes03:08
superm1well just because the package is installed doesn't mean the fonts are there03:08
superm1msttcorefonts is an installer package03:08
superm1that wget's them03:08
superm1so if your intarweb wasn't working for some reason03:09
superm1momentarily03:09
superm1that would be why03:09
Xenocideshould i --purge it and try to install it again?03:09
superm1wouldn't hurt to reinstall it03:09
Xenocidewell it says it wan'ts to remove backend and frontend to install that :-/03:10
Xenocide*remove03:10
superm1well then just do apt-get install --reinstall03:10
superm1or do it in synaptic even03:10
superm1synaptic is installed by default03:10
Xenocidealll it did was say all fonts downloaded and installed03:11
Xenocidebut never fetched anything03:11
superm1well your call what to do then03:12
superm1you can always purge and reinstall03:12
Xenocidei might try that03:12
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tazgodxhow do i get my version information and what versions do you want submitted with that bug report?03:15
superm1tazgodx, dpkg -l | grep package03:16
superm1will get you the version of that package you have installed03:16
superm1send the version of Thunar, and mythbuntu-default-settings03:16
superm1and that should be sufficient03:16
pdragonsuperm1: oh... where is the Myth.pm file at? Ran into this bug when trying to run the channel icons script03:17
pdragonhttp://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/404703:17
superm1guys i've gotta run for a few hours03:17
superm1sorry03:17
pdragonalright03:17
superm1Dawson64, you may want to brign this up on the ivtv mailing list http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3499901#post349990103:18
superm1that looks pretty nasty :(03:18
pdragonwas that to me?03:18
pdragonthe nasty comment03:18
superm1no pdragon that was to Dawson6403:19
pdragonahh03:19
superm1pdragon, do a dpkg -L mythtv-common03:19
superm1and you'll find the file03:19
superm1gl03:19
pdragonalright. cya03:19
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Dawson64can someone paste that link superm1 left for me?  I signed out & lost it03:26
pdragonsec03:26
pdragonhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3499901#post349990103:27
Dawson64thankyou03:27
tazgodxso, anyone have an jobs for the backend to trnascode a recording to xvid, or divx without the commercials so i can save some space?03:28
rhpot1991I was going to make a job to convert to xvid for the ipod and trim comercials03:29
rhpot1991but I need to fix my missing mythtv.pm first03:29
tazgodxyeah, i saw one for the ipod, but i want normal screen size, cause i don't have a ipod video03:29
rhpot1991I saw words about ffmpeg encoding to xvid in the forums let me search again03:30
rhpot1991http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=346778&highlight=ffmpeg+xvid03:32
rhpot1991seems to be what you are looking for03:32
rhpot1991my box actually stores everythign as mpeg2, prob cause of my hauppauge cards?03:32
pdragonyes, that's the format they record in03:39
pdragoni have a pvr-15003:39
tazgodxi have a PVR-35003:39
MitoTranintazgodx: the pvr-150 and pvr-350 are identical03:39
rhpot1991same here03:39
tazgodxmine are stored as mpg, i jsut want to encode it so its a smaller size03:39
MitoTraninthe only difference is that the 350 has TV-out as well03:39
rhpot1991and no they aren't03:39
MitoTraninrhpot1991: yes, they are03:40
rhpot1991350 has the output and a slightly better tuner03:40
MitoTraninno03:40
MitoTraninthe tuner is identical03:40
tazgodxsame tuner, just output03:40
MitoTraninthe only difference is that the 350 has output added03:40
tazgodxMitoTranin is right03:40
rhpot1991hmmm I read otherwise03:40
MitoTraninas far as input is concerned, they are identical03:40
tazgodxi have a 500 being shipped now, just waiting for it. and its jsut 2 150 in one03:40
MitoTraninrhpot1991: they have the exact same chipsets and inputs...03:41
MitoTranintake away the output of the 350 and they are the exact same03:41
rhpot1991alright I trust you03:41
tazgodxi bought the 350 cause it came with a remote03:41
MitoTraninBUT: do note that there are over a dozen different varrieties of each03:41
tazgodxand i didn't see any 150s with a remote03:41
pdragonone i got came with a remote but i haven't set it up03:41
rhpot1991I thought that the 150's have been through a few different variations03:41
rhpot1991my 150 came with a remote, retail box from CC03:42
pdragonsame here03:42
MitoTraninjust like there is only one Win95, but technically, there is Win95a, Win95b, win95c03:42
rhpot1991gotta make sure its not some repacked HVR1600 though03:42
MitoTranin(sorry for the winblowz reference btw)03:42
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rhpot1991heh03:43
rhpot1991I need to get a bigger hard drive for my 2nd backend03:43
tazgodxi just finished setting up my LVM on here03:45
rhpot1991LVM is the way to go03:45
tazgodxi wish it was easier to set up03:45
rhpot1991its a bit of a pain03:46
rhpot1991I ripped my hair out for a night trying to add a drive03:46
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tazgodxis nuvexport already installed on mythbuntu?03:50
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rhpot1991I think it might be in contrib03:51
Xenocidehey guys i got everything setup but whe ni set my playback aspect ratio to 16/9 i have a black bar on the left hand side, the menus look perfectly03:51
tazgodxdid you set up a widescreen theme?03:52
Xenocidethe theme works fine03:52
Xenocideits the playback03:52
tazgodxoh03:52
rhpot1991record resolution not in wide screen?03:53
Xenocideum03:53
Xenocidei just have it set to the max i could03:53
Xenocide720x480..03:53
Xenocidepvr 150's03:53
rhpot1991I don't see nuvexport in any packages03:54
rhpot1991checked the official ubuntu ones, not sure if there is any sort of package search for the mythbuntu ones03:54
Xenocidealso anyway to get rid of scanlines on an lcd monitor03:56
Xenocidekind of annoying03:56
tazgodxthere is an lcd checkbox in the setup03:57
Xenocideoh really03:57
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Xenocidethat lcd your tlaking about is for displaying info03:59
Xenocidenot an lcd monitor03:59
tazgodxhmm, so if i put a file with multiple audio does it automatically pick one to use? and is there a way to change it?04:09
pdragonare you playing with mplayer?04:11
tazgodxim not sure what it plays with04:11
pdragonmplayer is the default media file player unless you changed it04:12
tazgodxthan that would be the one04:12
pdragoncheck the manpage for mplayer. there's ways to change the audio & subtitles if they're available04:12
tazgodxso does mythbuntu have mplayer commands set up for the remote by default? all i can seem to get to work is skip forward and back04:13
pdragoni don't know honestly. i haven't set up a remote yet04:14
tazgodxi don't know if i could work this all with my keyboard without a remote04:15
tazgodxit would drive me nutz04:15
pdragonhehe. i had my own ghetto media center hooked up to my tv before i found this. just to watch tv shows i downloaded04:17
pdragonall i used was a keyboard, so i'm used to it04:17
tazgodxwell, i have a wireless keyboard/mouse combo but i just can't see useing that instead of a mouse, size does matter in that case04:18
tazgodxnew question, is it possible to give mythweb, a couple different user/pass combos?04:22
tazgodxand is there a way i can hide certain videos? :)04:22
rhpot1991different users yes04:23
rhpot1991hide videos not that I know of04:23
rhpot1991unless you hide htem from myth itself04:23
tazgodxwell that would defy the point of recording them on there04:23
tazgodxi guess ill worry about that part later04:24
rhpot1991https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythWeb04:24
rhpot1991follow the security part there04:24
rhpot1991and just do it more than once04:24
tazgodxbut you can only add usernames?04:33
tazgodxnot a new password for them?04:33
rhpot1991it prompts you for passwords04:37
rhpot1991the htpasswd command04:37
tazgodxoh well maybe ill set that up next04:37
tazgodx:)04:37
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Xenocideanyone have problems with scan lines on their tv04:47
rhpot1991hmmm is there any way of leaving a message in here?04:51
tgm4883_laptopsuperm1, http://www.geekstir.com/mariopumpkin.html04:52
rhpot1991tgm4883_laptop: does superm1 go back and read what he missed?04:53
tgm4883_laptopyea04:53
tgm4883_laptopis there something you needed04:53
rhpot1991superm1: I just did a fresh feisty install, installed ubuntu-mythtv-frontend from the ubuntu repos, then added mythbuntu weekly builds, apt-get update and apt-get upgrade, and now the package is stuck updating here too04:54
rhpot1991I talked to him about this problem before, it was happening on 2 of my other boxes and I tried everything, purging mythtv and reinstalling and everything, wont go away04:55
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pdragongot channel icons working :)04:56
pdragonhttp://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Channel_icons05:15
pdragonput the thing about the bug in and add an example05:15
pdragon*added05:15
rhpot1991I think I just used mythfilldatabase to get my icons05:18
pdragonhow did you get the icons and icon map to give it?05:19
rhpot1991I think I might have used the master_icon.xml file from svn05:20
rhpot1991now I am confused05:20
rhpot1991I did it then tried the new way which didn't work ended up breaking things then got it working and left it alone05:20
rhpot1991I am missing a few icons though05:20
pdragonyou can run that script with the --find-missing option and it will find them05:21
rhpot1991which script?05:21
pdragonthe one on that page i linked05:21
rhpot1991I am missing the perl bindings currently05:21
rhpot1991I'll look at it again when I upgrade to gutsy05:21
pdragondoh that's right05:21
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tazgodxanyone know where to go to change the OSD?05:53
tazgodxand why mplayer enables a screensaver?05:53
superm1tazgodx, update your mplayer06:04
superm1i fixed that last night06:04
superm1osd is in tv settings06:04
tazgodxi added a line to my mplayer config, and it seems to be working06:06
superm1well the mplayer update i pushed last night updates the default config06:07
superm1you can do it locally too06:07
tazgodxi added sothing to my bug06:08
superm1yeah i'm not sure about resolving that.06:11
superm1update notifier is kinda a necessary evil06:11
tazgodxis there a way just to disable it from having a popup telling me i have an update? just show me the icon in the toolbar?06:12
superm1try right clicking it in the bar06:14
superm1and see if it has such an option06:14
tazgodxthat one is not as annoying as when i insert the DVD and the explorer window pops up, but its just nice to have it running nice and smooth :)06:15
tazgodxso superm1 whats the best way of mounting an iso that i have on this computer and playing it on my mythbox? transfer the iso over to the box and mount there?06:27
superm1tazgodx, i might have a fix for yoiu06:27
superm1give me a sec06:27
tazgodxok06:27
tazgodxim just watching a movie, so i have plenty of time06:28
superm1tazgodx, actually some media players can directly play the ISO06:28
superm1if its a dvd rip06:28
superm1look at bug 15079006:29
superm1try the fix i attached to it06:29
superm1eh no ubotu answering?06:29
superm1!bug 15079006:29
superm1$bug 15079006:29
mythbotAlthough I didn't know, ubotu says: Launchpad bug 150790 in mythbuntu "explorere window pops up over Mythtv-frontend when DVD is inserted" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/15079006:29
superm1ubotu, you feeling ok?06:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about you feeling ok? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:31
mythbotNeither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "you feeling", sorry.06:31
tazgodxguess not06:34
tazgodxabout him feeling ok, not th fix. im still rebooting06:34
tazgodxhey, it didn't popup. i just had the menu change to the optical disk menu, which is what i wanted :)06:37
tazgodxok here is something i didn't notice before tho, now if i just hit the eject button i get a popup saying unmounting media, once again not a big problem jsut doesn't look good06:38
superm1does the popup go away?06:39
tazgodxyeah06:39
superm1okay as long as it goes away06:39
tazgodxyeah i can live with that06:39
tazgodxbut i did notice that if i choose eject on the optical disk menu, it tells me it failed to eject it, when it actually didn't. everytime06:40
superm1i'm going to hold off pushing this change to mythbuntu-default-settings.  let me know anything else you run into and i can push this in a day or two06:40
superm1yeah that's a whole different method of ejecting06:40
tazgodxok, thanks06:40
tazgodxok on a different topic, is it possible to get mythbroswer able to play stage6 and youtube videos? i think i asked someone else this06:43
superm1i dont know for sure06:43
superm1i personally dont use mythbrowser06:44
superm1i use my opera on the wii :)06:44
tazgodxhaha06:44
tazgodxi don't have anything but this mythbox so i was hoping to be able to watch videos on the web on it06:44
superm1check the mailing list archives for mythtv-users06:45
tazgodxand your right, i can just put the iso in myth/videos and it plays :)06:45
tazgodxwhast the link there?06:45
superm1it might just be a matter of installing flashplayer-nonfree or something06:45
superm1http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users06:45
rhpot1991superm1: see what I said about my fresh install?06:47
superm1what?06:47
rhpot1991superm1: I just did a fresh feisty install, installed06:47
rhpot1991            ubuntu-mythtv-frontend from the ubuntu repos, then added mythbuntu06:47
rhpot1991            weekly builds, apt-get update and apt-get upgrade, and now the06:47
rhpot1991            package is stuck updating here too06:47
superm1yeah i've heard that happening to people06:47
superm1didn't find the cause though06:47
tazgodxok, well nothing of importance in the mailing list that i see. but i could get it to work in firefox and then use that as my browser can't i?06:48
rhpot1991I'm upgrading it to gutsy as a test before I do my actual mythboxes06:48
rhpot1991I'll let you know if that cleans up the problem06:48
superm1yeah tazgodx06:49
superm1tazgodx, just visit a flash site in ff, and it will install falsh for you06:49
superm1rhpot1991, yeah it shouldn't exist in gutsy06:49
superm1its only on feisty weekly builds06:49
superm1for some reason06:49
rhpot1991are there gutsy weekly builds?06:50
superm1Not right now06:50
superm1there is no need for them right now anyway06:50
rhpot1991will there be come release?06:50
superm1one-two weeks after release yes06:50
rhpot1991alright06:50
superm1but again, they're not needed right now06:50
superm1there are no urgent fixes in them06:50
superm1that aren't already in gutsy06:50
rhpot1991also if I remove the weekly builds the problem goes away once it starts getting the packages from ubuntu repos instead06:50
rhpot1991ya06:51
rhpot1991can a gutsy backend communicate with a feisty one?06:53
superm1uae06:54
superm1yeah06:54
rhpot1991good then I can upgrade one at a time06:54
superm1i'm going to upgrade my main frontend right now too.06:54
superm1:)06:54
rhpot1991its nice and slow06:55
superm1well just imagine how the archives are going to be 10 days from now....06:56
superm1you'll be glad that you are doing it now06:56
rhpot1991I need to find a gap in recordings to do it for the boxes that I am actually using though06:57
CactusFnordsuperm1: I've been using the public beta now since you gave me the link. I'm very impressed.06:57
superm1great :)06:57
CactusFnordYou guys have a good thing going.06:57
superm1and there are only more fixes coming in for the rc (if you haven't been apt-get update/upgrading)06:57
rhpot1991so is mythbuntu == to myth installed from gutsy now?06:57
CactusFnordexcellent.06:58
superm1well ~=06:58
superm1not ==06:58
superm1not !=06:58
CactusFnord%s/~=/=~/g06:58
superm1you'd be silly to just do regular myth on top of gutsy and not do the mythbuntu packages imo06:58
superm1but i know there are people that will do that06:58
rhpot1991my original install was myth on top of feisty and I'm looking at just upgrading to gutsy06:59
superm1that's what my frontend is right now too.  hopefully its an entirely smooth upgrade06:59
superm1my other machines are all already gutsy06:59
tazgodxi installed mythtv on top of ubuntu, and it took me like 2 full days, i did the mythbuntu beta, and i have more set up. and faster06:59
superm1or dapper06:59
tazgodxfew small twerks im waiting for fixes for. but over all its bad ass07:00
rhpot1991being I already have everything configured would I even get anything out of mythbuntu at this point?07:00
superm1rhpot1991, well mcc stuff07:00
superm1stuff you didn't setup before07:00
superm1that mcc can do07:00
superm1artwork07:00
rhpot1991isn't mcc in gutsy though?07:00
superm1yeah07:00
superm1your upgrading to gutsy are you not?07:00
rhpot1991within the next few days07:01
superm1and you'll get the new xfce env too07:01
superm1rather than openbox07:01
superm1so admin stuff is a bit prettier in that regard07:01
rhpot1991I have gnome installed :P07:01
superm1well that's less fun then07:01
rhpot1991I am a gnome fan and I used to randomly use it before it lost its monitor07:02
superm1oh i am too07:04
superm1just not on a standalone box07:04
superm1my dev machines and personal machines are all gnome based07:04
rhpot1991does xfce really matter over gnome?07:04
rhpot1991I know its a lighter weight07:04
superm1its more lightweight07:04
superm1yeah07:04
superm1so quicker startup07:04
superm1less memory usage07:04
superm1etc07:04
rhpot1991but its not like my amd 1900+ is struggling here07:04
superm1well its also about the psychological effect from using it07:05
superm1you will generally think that somethign that is 'known to be more lightweight' is running faster07:05
superm1its a very odd effect07:05
rhpot1991just like free food tastes better07:06
superm1exactly07:06
rhpot1991maybe I'll install the xfce4 package on the 2nd backend and see how it runs07:06
superm1so to an outsider, yeah you can say that mythbuntu is mythtv on top of gutsy with some improvements, but when you say that its a whole diff env, and then start to list the differences in the env, the person will view it much differently07:07
superm1i'm interested to see how the reviews criticize us post release07:07
rhpot1991mythbuntu still doesn't do VLM right?07:07
superm1not during the installer unfor07:07
superm1post install you can set it up to your hearts desire though07:08
tazgodxyeah, but its a pain in the ass :)07:11
superm1well its too bad that making an alternate install cd is more difficult than a standard install cd07:12
superm1er s/standard/live/07:12
superm1you would think it is the other way around07:12
rhpot1991s/VLM/LVM/, don't mind my spelling07:12
tazgodxcan't it just be included in the standard/live?07:12
rhpot1991personally its a pain in the ass no matter what07:13
superm1well there is a task for it available, so probably 80% of the work to make an alternate disk is done07:13
rhpot1991but well worth the effort07:13
superm1since the task is shared between both types of disk07:13
superm1but there just isn't time to sort out the last 20 percent07:13
tazgodxman, saw 3 sucks compared to the first 2, just in case you guys wanted to see it, you can skip it07:17
superm1i liked the first one, but felt eh about the second07:17
superm1so i didnt bother with the third07:17
tazgodxi hated the first one, liked the second07:17
tazgodxand this third suck07:17
tazgodxs07:17
rhpot1991haven't seen the 3rd07:18
rhpot1991first was good, 2nd was ok07:18
rhpot1991reign over me and 28 weeks later both come out tomorrow(today), both very good07:18
tazgodxi want to see 28 weeks later07:18
tazgodx28 days later was great07:19
tazgodxjust sooo much gore in saw 3, its not the suspense that the first 2 were almost makeing me sick07:20
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tazgodx$vnc08:02
tazgodx!vnc08:02
mythbotAlthough I didn't know, ubotu says: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX08:02
ubotuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX08:02
mythbotAlthough I didn't know, ubotu says: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX08:02
tazgodxwhy can't i connect to my mythbox with vnc?08:11
tazgodxsays server isn't running on host machine08:11
rhpot1991there is an option you have to enable for it to connect08:12
tazgodxi have it enables in the MCC08:12
rhpot1991system>preferences>remote desktop08:12
rhpot1991allow others to view your desktop08:13
rhpot1991and allow others to control your desktop08:13
rhpot1991might want to toss a password on it too08:13
tazgodxhmm, i don't see that. but in MCC i set that to enable, and i set a password on it there08:14
superm1tazgodx, there was a bug in the beta regarding the password that got generated08:14
superm1did you generate it after or before beta?08:14
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tazgodxafter, but its not even asking me for a password, says the host isn't running a vnc server08:15
superm1restarted X?08:15
tazgodxyeah, i just restarted a little while ago08:15
tazgodxwhat viewer should i use to connect? any preferences?08:16
superm1xvnc4viewer?08:16
tazgodxwell that worked08:18
tazgodxlol08:18
tazgodxguess my viewer just sucked08:18
tazgodxwhat is firefox's application path?08:43
superm1/usr/bin/firefox?08:45
superm1why?08:45
tazgodxi want to make that my default browser instead of mythbrowser08:46
tazgodxand that didn't work08:46
superm1o08:46
superm1that should work08:46
tazgodxyeah i thoght so too08:48
superm1you sure it didn't launch behind or something?08:49
tazgodxbut it just gives me a huge blank screen now when i go into web08:49
superm1<alt> tab08:49
superm1etc08:49
tazgodxgot it, :)08:52
tazgodxthanks08:52
tazgodxi wonder if there is a way to make firefox run fullscreen, at all times. no window border09:01
tazgodxill look into that later09:01
MitoTranintazgodx: if you hit F11 it goes into fulscreen mode... not sure how to make it default to that though...09:05
tazgodxyeah, i got taht. i wanna make the default fullscreen. but when its full screen as far as i can tell there is no way to close it. so i also need to find a way to close firfox when it is fullscreen09:06
MitoTraninalt-f409:08
tazgodxhaha slick answer. i just thought of that too09:09
superm1tazgodx, there are extentions for that09:10
superm1actually09:10
superm1and mouse gestures09:10
superm1so you can get the extension that makes it start full screen09:10
superm1and stay that way09:10
superm1and then setup a mouse gesture for down + right09:11
superm1to close ff09:11
MitoTraninhttp://www.mouserunner.com/FF_Tips_Full_Screen.html09:11
tazgodxthis little project is turning out quite nice actually09:18
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tazgodxsweet, i got it set up that esc. exits firefox :) ok time for bed now, thanks09:52
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pdragonsuperm1: ping02:55
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Davieypdragon: i suspect he's in bed.. he has a v. late night03:08
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pdragonahh ok03:11
pdragonwell, nothing too important. i can wait til he's back03:11
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solarbabyHello World..  Im your newest newbie04:48
pdragonhi04:49
bendaileysolarbaby: hello04:49
solarbabyAwesome.. people are actually here and night just ghosts04:49
solarbabyIm downloading the iso right now..  Im looking forward to the fun04:49
solarbabykinda surprised to see that there is no official support system in place just yet04:50
directhex|worki'll support you for $100 an hour. with real invoices!04:50
solarbabyThats the Spirit!04:51
solarbabyI figure I could install MythDora which should be simple as pie, or AbuntuMyth, which just feels a little more fun to me04:52
solarbabywhole reason I want myth at this point is to run the python script on my xbox so I can interface with it04:53
solarbabyI hope the script works04:53
solarbabyanyone running myth with a black xbox?04:57
pdragonnot i04:58
solarbabyit would be more correct to state that I would be only running a front end on the xbox04:58
solarbabybut im sure you knew that04:59
=== popey has considered running it on his xbox
popeybut as I have xbmc on there at the moment, and no backend, that will be some time later :)05:00
solarbabyxbmc is what I plan to run it from.. with a py script05:00
popeydidnt know you could do that05:00
solarbabyI dunno if the script actually works but they have one05:00
solarbabyI'll try to find reference to it05:01
foxbuntuthe only thing Myth should do to/with a MS product is destroy it05:01
foxbuntu:)05:01
foxbuntubut thats just me05:01
foxbuntu$foxbuntu05:02
mythbotfoxbuntu is a mythbuntu dev, he is leet. tgm4883 wishes he was as leet as foxbuntu.05:02
solarbabytype xbmc mythtv.py into google and see what comes up05:02
foxbuntusolarbaby, what is it supposed to do? I know there has been alot of chatter about xbox stuff05:02
solarbabythe python script will allow you to schedule recordings with mythtv, and lookup shows you've already recorded with full descriptions.. and of course play the media..05:03
solarbabyI hope it allows you to stream live televsion05:03
foxbuntusolarbaby, I am not sure how that would work unless you are running the xbox linux05:04
solarbabythe XBMC crew is working on porting XBMC to linux, and I assume they are going to be getting mythtv all setup.. but they are far from finished05:04
solarbabyfoxbuntu: thats the second option05:05
solarbabylooks like people have made this work with knopmyth but I see no mention with ubunto myth05:11
pdragonstill pretty new compared to knopmyth. maybe try posting in the forums and see if anyone else is working on it?05:13
solarbabyI plan on it05:14
solarbabyI'll give this project a few days before going over to Knopmyth05:14
solarbabymaybe I'll just create disc images and go back and forth05:15
pdragoncan always multi-boot05:18
tgm4883solarbaby, someone is, or did at one point.  His name is Xentium.  though im not sure on the spelling05:18
tgm4883foxbuntu, did you see the numbers from yesterday05:19
foxbuntutgm4883, indeed I did05:21
foxbuntuvery nice05:21
tgm4883very very nice05:21
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tgm4883whoa, i think I know why we got so many hits yesterday, let me check something05:45
tgm4883nope, most from distrowatch05:47
keescooksuperm1: back, you were looking for me?05:47
tgm4883for anyone thats interested http://blog.wired.com/monkeybites/2007/10/mythbuntu-turni.html05:48
pdragonnice05:49
tgm4883we also showed up here, where we got many of our visits from yesterday http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=2007100805:50
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tgm4883and if anyone wants to digg mythbuntu stories http://digg.com/linux_unix/Mythbuntu_Turning_Ubuntu_Into_A_DVR_System05:53
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SpudDoggdoes 7.10 include serial port IRBlaster support?05:58
Davieybelieve so06:02
superm1hi keescook06:24
keescookhiya superm106:26
superm1keescook, i was gonna follow up with you on that mail, and before you were going to commit anything ask if you had some ideas for the last lirc bug that was opened06:27
superm1regarding race conditions06:27
keescooksuperm1: ah, yeah, saw that over the weekend, I will get to it today.06:28
foxbuntusuperm1, should I commit those fixes from last night for m-l-g?06:28
superm1foxbuntu, sure06:28
foxbuntusuperm1, ok...0.15 is up06:33
foxbunturev 2006:33
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pdragonsuperm1: still around?06:59
superm1yeah07:00
superm1whats up?07:00
pdragonfound a work-around to get the channel icon script in the svn working07:01
pdragonhttp://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Channel_icons07:01
pdragonposted it in there07:01
rhpot1991pdragon you should put that in the ubuntu mythtv wiki too07:01
superm1ah cool.07:01
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rhpot1991superm1 how'd the gutsy upgrade go?07:02
rhpot1991mine seemed to work out, frontend connected to the backend, then I went to sleep07:03
superm1rhpot1991, well all but one thing worked out07:03
superm1this is a pxe boot/nfs root setup07:03
superm1so you dont want network manager installed07:03
superm1you can't let it give up an ip address to manage by nm07:03
superm1so the feisty->gutsy upgrade was fine, but installing mythbuntu, i had to manually remove network manager07:04
pdragontoo many wikis! https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MythBuntu07:04
pdragoncan't really put that in the fiesty wiki tho cause fiesty doesn't have Myth.pm07:05
rhpot1991thats a bug that should get fixed though07:05
superm1if they get it fixed very quickly upstream, we can get it in still, but that will have to be a very fast fix07:06
pdragonsuperm1: is that channel_icons.pl script something that will be included with mythbuntu?07:09
superm1pdragon, it's not a priority at this point07:09
pdragonsuperm1: i'll try and write up a HowTo for the Mythbuntu wiki and if/when a Gutsy MythTV one comes out. If you see the bug I mentioned has been fixed, let me know and I'll update the entry07:31
keescooksuperm1: the 16_lirc-gpio.dpatch seems to contain a lirc.hwdb diff...07:34
keescooksuperm1: wait, is that the fix?07:35
superm1keescook, yeah07:36
superm1because we can't use lirc_gpio07:36
superm1the fallback is dev/input07:36
keescookokay, cool.07:36
superm1at some point a wiki write up needs to be put in place to explain how to  use dev/input though07:37
superm1because the maintainer scripts at this point don't have a way to query for devices07:37
superm1and figure out with /dev/input/eventX needs to be used07:37
keescookokay, looks fine to me.07:39
keescooksuperm1: hm, might be able to slip it into post-RC.  I'll try then.07:42
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superm1keescook, okay cool good08:02
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laga*yawn*08:19
therethinkerI'm here08:20
therethinkerI'm reading my feeds, then I'll get to work08:20
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therethinkerOkay08:29
therethinkerNow to do the codec thing08:29
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therethinker2$whack laga08:30
mythbot/me whacks laga08:30
laga$slap08:31
mythbotSorry, I neither I or ubotu knew, but Wikipedia says: "A slap or 'smack' is a broad stroke made with the flat open hand, as opposed to a punch that is made with a closed fist." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slap08:31
laga$fist08:31
therethinker2$slap laga08:31
mythbotSorry, I neither I or ubotu knew, but Wikipedia says: "A fist is a hand that has the fingers curled into the palm and the thumb retracted." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fist08:31
mythbot/me slaps laga08:31
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laga$deflower therethinker208:31
mythbotNeither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "please don't", sorry.08:31
therethinker2$infect laga08:32
mythbot/me takes control of laga's computer, formats the hard drive, and installs Windows ME on it.08:32
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therethinker2Muhahaha08:37
therethinker2$daily laga08:44
mythbot/me turns laga into a frog.08:44
therethinker2Eh? closest thing to nice08:44
laga$daily therethinker208:45
mythbot/me turns therethinker2 into a frog.08:45
lagaboring08:45
therethinker2I know... I lacked inspiration08:48
therethinker2I plan to change it daily...08:48
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therethinker2Like I'll remember..08:50
therethinker2Although, I need some good ones... they're all evil08:50
therethinker2Okay, can someone on a x64 test this?08:51
therethinker2I'll commit it08:51
lagathe locale fix?08:51
therethinker2Yeah08:51
lagai have a x64, but i cant use it at the moment. monitor/keyboard is hooked up to a different box08:52
therethinker2Yeah, I'm on a x64 computer... but I use x8608:52
therethinker2The compatabilty sucks most the time08:52
therethinker2Oh wait, I thought this was the dev channel >_>08:53
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lagawell, it's not like you can try ubiquity on a real install. would have to do it in a VM, and virtualbox does not support 64 bit guests08:53
therethinker2I assumed VM wouldn't let you do a x64VM on a x86 host :P08:53
superm1vmware allows 64 bit guests though i thought08:54
therethinkersuperm1: well, I can't change the channel08:59
therethinkerI have it set up where I have a cable line to my tuner08:59
therethinkerI need to set the external change command, right?08:59
superm1you using an external changer?08:59
therethinkerno08:59
superm1well then hit the appropriate channel change keys :)08:59
therethinkerit doesn't work08:59
lagafix it08:59
therethinkerIt *says* it changed channels, but it didn't08:59
therethinker$slap laga08:59
lagaanjd/or take a look at the log files08:59
mythbot/me slaps laga08:59
therethinkerHmm... logfiles... where? :P09:00
laga /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log09:00
lagafrontend: start it in a terminal09:00
therethinkeryeah, hold on09:03
therethinkerNothing in there09:05
therethinkerI started backend in a terminal, and  nothing interesting09:05
lagawhen you try to change channels?09:07
therethinkerYep09:07
therethinkerIt thinks its changing09:07
lagacan you put the log in a pastebin?09:07
therethinkerThey'res nothing in the log. period09:08
lagain mythtv-setup, did you link your video source to your tv card's input?09:08
therethinkerYep09:08
therethinkerWait, no09:08
therethinkeris the video source the XMLTV thing?09:08
lagajust check "input connections"09:08
laga.09:08
laga<- reboot09:08
therethinkerI'm opening up mythtv setup09:09
therethinkerwhat?09:09
therethinkerYeah, I didn't have any video sources09:11
therethinkerWait, can I use the EIT?09:12
laganot with analog cable.09:12
therethinkerDamn,09:12
therethinkeroh well09:12
therethinkerI added it, and as I'm doing the scan, I'm getting all the channels now :-)09:13
therethinkerRather than just 2-13 :D09:13
therethinkerIts skipping a few, but nothing important...09:14
therethinkerWait, still no09:15
therethinkerstill stuck, still B/w09:15

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