[01:21] FYI if anyone is wanting to take a gamble on linux compatibility: http://www.woot.com/ [01:21] great deal... if it works with linux [01:22] well why gamble? google it? [01:22] figure out the hardware it uses [01:22] chipset wise [01:22] and query linuxtv.org? [01:24] it's a brand new card not on the market yet (thus the rocket next to the picture) [01:25] it's given to woot.com for it's launch... [01:25] so I don't know how much detail is on the net yet [01:25] oh i doubt support then [01:26] it's not of much use to me right now though, as I have zero HD signal at my house for over-the-air and I don't feel like paying for HDTV content anytime soon [01:26] well too bad i have absolutely no need for another hd tuner [01:26] i'm happy with 3 :) [01:27] (actually I've already had a pcHD3000 card and sold it via ebay because I couldn't get enough use out of it) [01:27] superm1: well... then... go buy that plextor to help me figure out exactly how to get it to work right :) [01:28] Mr. Moneypants :) [01:30] haha [01:30] hmmm, only button that i see that doesn't work on my remote is the back/exit button. is there a way to configure that as an esc keypress? [01:31] tazgodx, its been setup that way as of the latest updates [01:31] tazgodx, open up mcc and hit regenerate dynamic buttons [01:31] and restart mythfrontend [01:31] you need mythbuntu-lirc-generator 0.14-0ubuntu1 for it [01:31] which was released yesterday [01:32] mcc? :) === superm1 smacks therethinker [01:32] get mythbot working again [01:32] mythbuntu-control-centre [01:32] tazgodx, if its does not resovle it let me know specificly [01:33] Why? [01:33] What'd I do [01:33] Oh [01:33] Yeah, its getting better [01:33] quick question is there a way i can make mythbuntu output to my VGA instead of only S-Video? cause my TV SUCKS as a TV monitor... [01:34] it can now query ubotu privately [01:34] ssh has been my friend for a while on this box [01:35] use vnc === mythbot [n=mythbot@c-76-24-122-94.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [01:35] $mcc [01:35] The Mythbuntu Control Centre is a GUI used to configure the system. From here you can select what kind of system (Backend, Frontend, Both) you want. You can also install different desktops such as ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop. Install Plugins. Configure MySQL. Set passwords, install proprietary drivers, proprietary codecs, setup remote controls, and a range of other bells and whistles. MCC is the cat's pajamas. [01:35] then you don't need to worry about it [01:35] vnc huh === therethinker smacks foxbuntu [01:36] therethinker, can you set him up so we can teach him things in irc [01:36] if he checks to make sure we are who we claim we are and such [01:36] tazgodx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC [01:36] is vnc installed by default on mythbuntu, or do i have to install? [01:36] tazgodx, install it via mcc [01:36] tazgodx: you can install it via the mcc [01:36] superm1: yep, thast my next task [01:36] that will configure it etc for you too [01:37] superm1 he only has ssh access right now [01:37] or thats how I took it [01:37] haha, ok :) [01:37] therethinker: You know ubotu's src is avaliable? [01:37] tazgodx, again make sure that you update to the latest mcc. 0.8-0ubuntu1 [01:38] Daviey [01:38] Yeah [01:38] updateing now [01:38] Daviey: Yeah, but I didn't like it [01:38] Bloated eh? [01:38] Not bloated... just... [01:38] It would be awkward to use with my setup [01:39] it depended on .cgi's for web pages -- I don't have that setup. [01:39] The web thing for mythbot was simple, thanks to django :P [01:39] Yeah, so watch this [01:39] $0gqwhg0w [01:39] Neither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about this === therethinker does eye gesture [01:40] and if you do something ubotu knows [01:40] what happens? [01:40] It will say [01:40] $medibuntu [01:40] but I can't think of anything wikipedia knows that ubotu won't :P [01:40] Sorry, I don't know anything about medibuntu. Wikipedia: "The Penguin Liberation Front (PLF) provides packages of so-called 'endangered software' - free software with a questionable legal status in some countries - for Linux users and developers." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medibuntu. [01:40] hm ubotu should have known that before wikipedia did [01:40] I know [01:41] lets try another [01:41] But it's a pain... [01:41] !automatix [01:41] Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software. When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it. A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme) [01:41] Although I didn't know, ubotu says:Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software. When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it. A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme) [01:41] $automatix [01:41] Sorry, I don't know anything about automatix. Wikipedia: "Automatix Inc., founded in January 1980, was the first company to market industrial robots with built-in machine vision." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatix. [01:41] wha? [01:41] Whoa [01:41] I think mythbot also responds to ! [01:41] !therethinker [01:41] Sorry, I don't know anything about therethinker - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [01:41] Neither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about this [01:41] haha. [01:41] haha [01:41] okay well that needs to change :) [01:41] What?! Who deleted me? [01:41] YEah [01:41] Bugs galore :P [01:42] $superm1 [01:42] superm1 is the programmer who is in charge of Mythbuntu. [01:42] $foxbuntu [01:42] foxbuntu is a mythbuntu dev, he is leet. tgm4883 wishes he was as leet as foxbuntu. [01:42] :) [01:42] I need to lock you out from changing things :P [01:42] therethinker, I didnt change anything [01:42] :) [01:42] $Daviey [01:42] Neither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about this [01:42] $TazgodX [01:43] Aww... you're unloved [01:43] Neither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about this [01:43] Oh [01:43] I forgot to tell you [01:43] Whenever you add a command, it must be in all lower case [01:43] should say, "pain in the ass who doesn't do anything but ask questions" [01:43] ah [01:43] without !, ?, |, ., or . [01:43] I'll fix that [01:43] $Daviey [01:43] Daviey rocks the casbah \o/ and is a Mythbuntu dev === foxbuntu_ [n=nick@12-216-16-102.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [01:44] You still need to do that... I fixed just daviey's entry [01:44] tazgodx, thats not entirely accurate. You forgot Sony Fanboy [01:44] yeah that too [01:47] anyone here ever mess with openwrt? [01:47] yeah i use it [01:47] i played with it a bit, but went back to ddwrt [01:47] just ordered this today: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833320008&Tpk=wl-500g [01:47] plan on running openwrt on it [01:48] seems pretty pricey for a router just to use openwrt [01:48] I got fed up with this belkin PoS and its randomly dieing anything I do anything intensive [01:48] ooh but 2 usb's [01:48] you know it [01:48] usb hard drive it up then I can run things right on the router [01:49] also I can experiment with hooking it up to my roomba then too === superm1 imagines setting up a NAS on a router to keep all recordings at [01:50] I'm wishful that my printer will be able to be hosted by it [01:51] out of the box it can do that, but I'm not convinced openwrt will be able to [01:52] why? [01:52] driver support [01:52] cups should be available [01:52] superm1, take a loot at the about page and let me know if I need to fix anything [01:52] is cups available in openwrt? [01:52] via x-wrt i thought [01:52] last time I tried to install this (canon pixma ip8500) in linux things didn't go well [01:53] never had a router with usb though, so i didn't look into it too much :) [01:53] I was trying to install amd64 a few years back though, so many things didn't work or weren't available [01:53] tgm4883_laptop, where did this come from? http://www.mythbuntu.org/files/images/usplash.preview.png [01:53] i didn't know we had a usplash like that :) [01:53] yep :) [01:53] tgm4883_laptop, switch code and m-c-c [01:54] i pulled it from mythbuntu-artwork per info from foxbuntu [01:54] and then i think it looks good [01:54] ok [01:56] fixed [01:57] you know what you guys should add to the MCC system services thing, or somewhere, that no-ip.com prog to give you a dynamic IP at all times [01:57] tgm4883_laptop, one more thing. can you add more space between desktop and m-c-c [01:57] so the pics don't all overlap [01:57] height wise [01:58] the pics or the wording? [01:58] well lower the m-c-c title [01:58] and everything else will follow [01:58] i'd think [01:58] ah ok [01:58] ok superm1, where is the "regenerate dynamic buttons"? [01:58] on the remote control tab === DaveMorris hates the way you offer to help some one with a build problem at work even though your off for a couple of days, but they never mail you the details etc for you to sort it out! [01:59] oh, its a checkbox...got it :) thanks [01:59] fixed again [02:00] yeah that looks great === Daviey bed - nn [02:00] nn [02:01] night Dav [02:01] Daviey: even [02:04] tazgodx, I found an error in my update (0.14-0ubuntu1) of the lirc-generator...that won't fix your back button...however the error has been resolved in further testing and when we can release 0.15 it will be fixed so you can just generate new keys [02:07] ok, i was gonna say, its still not working [02:07] tgm4883_laptop, okay i'll add that page to m-d-s [02:07] in a cached variant [02:07] we're going to need release notes too, since the installer links to them. but not for at least a week === rhpot1991mythbox [n=john@c-69-242-102-85.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:12] tgm4883_laptop just got back from errands rebooting into myth buntu in one second [02:12] Hmm [02:12] this is hard [02:13] For some reason, it responds to ubotu [02:13] which isn't good [02:13] !cheese [02:13] Sorry, I don't know anything about cheese - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [02:14] superm1 should i use 1366x768 if the tv supports it or just 1280x768? [02:15] Xenocide, I'm not sure you can use 1366x768 === mythbot [n=zach@c-76-24-122-94.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:17] I'm a person [02:17] in MCC if i enable NFS, does that configure anything or just enable it for me to configure? [02:19] tgm4883_laptop im getting some scan lines too :( [02:19] Hey can some one help me test? [02:19] Just pop in #mythbot === mindframe_ [n=mindfram@ip72-207-244-33.br.br.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:30] wow... those hdtv cards are still up on woot.com. they must be spectacular :p === mythbot [n=mythbot@c-76-24-122-94.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:30] $laga [02:30] laga is a programmer from the other side of the ocean for Mythtv. Therefore, it is probably best to not listen to him. === mythbot [n=mythbot@c-76-24-122-94.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === mythbot [n=mythbot@c-76-24-122-94.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:32] Oh my got [02:32] *god [02:32] sorry, I didn't mean to switch him quite yet :P [02:34] heh... might want to wait a day or two after you think he's ready ;) [02:36] I think he's ready ready [02:36] I thought he was ready last night :P [02:36] time to try to set up NFS === lotek [i=lotek@gateway/tor/x-8b91cb11065cb95b] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === mythbot [n=mythbot@c-76-24-122-94.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:39] Hello mythbot! [02:39] Hello therethinker. [02:39] Should we put something in the room topic about mythbot? [02:39] Hi mythbot [02:39] Hi foxbuntu_. [02:39] Isn't he lovable? :P [02:39] oh, maybe it is set up :) [02:39] g'day mythbot [02:40] hi mythbot!? [02:40] mythbot, do you love laga? [02:40] mythbot!? [02:40] Stop playing with him D: [02:40] hes broken again [02:40] No he isn't [02:40] $mcc [02:40] The Mythbuntu Control Centre is a GUI used to configure the system. From here you can select what kind of system (Backend, Frontend, Both) you want. You can also install different desktops such as ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop, install plugins, configure MySQL, set passwords, install proprietary drivers, proprietary codecs, setup remote controls, and a range of other bells and whistles. [02:40] .gc Mythbuntu [02:40] $lovelagalongtime [02:40] Neither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "please don't", sorry. [02:41] $tazgodx [02:41] Neither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "tazgodx", sorry. === tazgodx cries [02:41] $foxbuntu [02:41] foxbuntu is a mythbuntu dev, he is leet. tgm4883 wishes he was as leet as foxbuntu. [02:41] $infect tazgodz [02:41] /me takes control of tazgodz's computer, formats the hard drive, and installs Windows ME on it. [02:41] $infect tazgodx [02:41] /me takes control of tazgodx's computer, formats the hard drive, and installs Windows ME on it. [02:41] lol [02:41] lol [02:41] they'res 2 more [02:41] tazgodx you can set up nfs shares to auto mount in /etc/fstab, thats how I did mine [02:42] $crush laga [02:42] yeah, im bout to set that up [02:42] yeah, that's how I did it [02:42] Neither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "crush laga", sorry. [02:42] I didn't see it mentioned earlier so I wanted to toss it out there [02:42] $poke therethinker [02:42] Neither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "please don't", sorry. [02:42] that cant be right [02:42] too long [02:43] Stp[ [02:43] *Stop [02:43] stop trying to figure out the $ commands :P [02:43] They're seacrets :P [02:43] haha, someone needs to know then [02:43] *guards heavily* [02:43] them [02:43] Id do :P [02:43] therethinker, I am just gonna look them up [02:43] how? [02:43] They're not in the DB [02:43] They're semihardcoded [02:43] $infect therethinker [02:43] they are at least being nice about it, we would always try to pass rm -rf's to my friends bot and see if it would delete itself [02:43] /me takes control of therethinker's computer, formats the hard drive, and installs Windows ME on it. [02:44] thats how [02:44] Okay, lets stop [02:44] muwhaaa! [02:44] haha, didn't hardcode a way for it not to be used on you did ya? [02:44] rhpo1991 is trying to get help [02:44] k [02:44] rhpot1991, what did you need? [02:44] *rhpot1991 [02:44] I'm not [02:44] heh [02:44] Oh, sorry :P [02:44] back to bot abuse! [02:44] You're saying things that actually have to do with the channel :P [02:44] Noo! [02:44] $whack off [02:45] I don't want superm1 to ban it [02:45] /me whacks off [02:45] unless someone is gonna fix mythtv.pm missing from feisty [02:45] Okay, I'll tell you, just so you stop guessing [02:45] off to dinner folks === mythbot [n=mythbot@c-76-24-122-94.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:45] bye mythbot [02:45] $poke pdragon [02:45] stabs pdragon violently with a rusty spoon [02:45] ouchie [02:45] bye mythbot === MythbuntuGuest84 [n=Mythbunt@71.68.22.2] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === MythbuntuGuest84 is now known as Xenocide [02:46] tgm4883_laptop im having some dependency problems [02:46] $crush foxbuntu [02:46] pummels foxbuntu to the ground!!! [02:46] $crush laga [02:46] pummels laga to the ground!!! [02:46] YAY!!! === mythbot [n=mythbot@c-76-24-122-94.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:46] Sorry, [02:46] $crush laga [02:46] pummels laga to the ground!!! [02:46] YAY!! === mythbot [n=mythbot@c-76-24-122-94.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:46] NOOWW do it :P [02:46] Wait, don't [02:46] I don't support this bot abuse >_> [02:47] $crush laga [02:47] /me pummels laga to the ground!!! [02:47] Sorry, can't help self [02:47] $poke mythbot [02:47] /me stabs mythbot violently with a rusty spoon [02:47] haha [02:47] $poke ubotu [02:47] /me stabs ubotu violently with a rusty spoon [02:47] poke worked [02:47] Yeah === mdmcmull [n=mobian@cpe-70-112-45-80.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:48] nice work therethinker [02:48] I added some, forgot the /me [02:48] Thank you :-) [02:48] entertainment [02:48] Now back to real work [02:48] i had that one, but used a name too long [02:48] :( [02:48] be back later...gonna grab a bite [02:49] im really starting to like mythbuntu! [02:49] ty guys! :) === therethinker2 [n=zach@c-76-24-122-94.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:49] fun ain't it? [02:49] I geues.. [02:49] sorry :P === MythbuntuGuest45 [n=Mythbunt@cpe-071-068-022-002.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:50] Hello! [02:50] Do you need help? [02:51] hey guys, just tried out mythbuntu and tried to play a DVD and it won't play. Looked at the logs, and it says encrypted dvd support is not present... I guess I need to install libdvdcss2 ? [02:51] yep [02:51] You can do that in mcc [02:51] tahts in the mcc [02:51] superm1 as soon as i install restricted nvidia driver i get that screen cut in half stuff again [02:51] oh it's added now? === MythbuntuGuest45 is now known as Xenocide [02:51] ah, cool. I'll check the mcc now [02:52] do you know what mcc is? (we're very eager to use our new bot :P) === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-50-51.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === therethinker2 is very eager to use bot correctly [02:53] Xenocide, sounds like a personal problem [02:53] take a picture [02:53] and show us [02:53] MythbuntuGuest45, what resolution? [02:53] 1280x768 [02:53] works fine on vesa drivers [02:53] superm1 this is the same setup i used on feisty [02:53] just the lcd tv now [02:53] what card [02:53] Xenocide, well like i said the tv can be your issue here [02:53] geforce 6200 [02:53] that's why i wanted to see you try it with a monitor [02:53] why would it work fine with vesa drivers though [02:53] Xenocide, what driver? [02:54] nvidia glx new [02:54] use nvidia glx [02:54] let me take a pic then ill try that [02:54] you can switch over by apt-get install nvidia-glx (that will remove nvidia-glx-new) [02:54] but yeah i'm curious to see this in action [02:55] are there plans to implement the installation of a serial ir blaster? [02:55] im assuming live cd automatically uses restricted drivers thats why i couldn't use it [02:55] tazgodx, yeah but its deffered until hardy [02:55] or deferred even [02:55] Xenocide, no it doesnt [02:56] Xenocide, it uses the 'nv' driver [02:56] hm [02:56] until hardy? [02:56] Xenocide, if you chose safe graphics mode on the cd, it would use vesa [02:56] [IMG] http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v362/xenner/IMG_0330.jpg[/IMG] [02:56] tazgodx, ubuntu 8.04 [02:56] safe mode crashed all together said can't open tty [02:56] ahhh, they already have the name for it? [02:56] yeah hardy heron [02:56] installing nvidia-glx now [02:56] see if that works.. [02:57] Xenocide, okay so its not that its cut off [02:57] its that it is off centre === Tari [i=Tari@CPE-72-133-204-1.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:57] well how would i fix that [02:57] how is it hooked up? [02:57] vga cable to tv [02:57] go in the tv menu system [02:57] i had the dvi to hdmi but you told me to buy a differen't cable [02:57] and hit the auto sync focus option [02:58] most tv's have it for vga [02:58] ok. let me put the old driver back [02:58] its the equivalent of the "Auto" option on a regular LCD monitor [02:58] ok, i have a few quick problems, but i can live with them i guess. when i close mythtv-frontend, i have like 5 network managers open in my bar. [02:58] .weather bos [02:58] auto adjust didnt' seem to work... [02:58] tazgodx, that's fixed for the RC [02:58] also, i just put in a DVD and it opened an explorer window over mythtv-frontend [02:59] tazgodx: there's a bug in for that. fixed for rc. how to fix it is in the bug report [02:59] tazgodx, that is a trouble though with the dvd, can you file a report on that? [02:59] it's actually fixed in an update that's out now. don't know what package but updating fixes it [02:59] mythbuntu-default-settings [02:59] fixes it [02:59] i just updated [02:59] and network manager [02:59] the combo of the two [02:59] you have to rm ~/.cache -rf [03:00] to get rid of the extras though [03:00] I'm going to hit the hay, bye ;-) [03:00] night therethinker [03:00] thanks superm1 [03:01] ok so i just have to run "rm ~/.cache -rf" after my update to get those fixes to work? [03:02] that should be it [03:02] pdragon, you reported the mplayer issue yesterday right? [03:02] yes. i just turned the screensaver off back in xfce and everything worked fine [03:02] pdragon, well it should also be fixed in the mplayer upload i did yesterday [03:02] after you told me about it, i decided to investigate it [03:03] just a comment, I found the option to install libdvdcss2 in mcc, and also w32codecs. But that fails on AMD64 -- it should be w64codecs on that platform :) [03:03] mdmcmull, yeah therethinker is on it :) [03:03] superm1: alright. i'll turn the screensaver back on and update after Heroes is over :) [03:03] anyhow, libdvdcss2 installed fine now, so I can watch dvds -- thanks so much for the help! :-) [03:03] oh that's right heroes is tonight [03:04] i probably won't be able to watch it for a few days though :( [03:04] that's what mythtv is for! :) [03:04] hmm, inserting my dvd again, after that command, still opens a window over my mythtv-frontend [03:04] tazgodx, yeah like i said, we need a bug report on that :) [03:04] it will have to be investigated still [03:04] superm1 i adjusted it manually, but now my optoins aren't comming up in myth-setup [03:05] Xenocide, what options [03:05]