[01:21] <MitoTranin> FYI if anyone is wanting to take a gamble on linux compatibility:  http://www.woot.com/
[01:21] <MitoTranin> great deal... if it works with linux
[01:22] <superm1> well why gamble? google it?
[01:22] <superm1> figure out the hardware it uses
[01:22] <superm1> chipset wise
[01:22] <superm1> and query linuxtv.org?
[01:24] <MitoTranin> it's a brand new card not on the market yet (thus the rocket next to the picture)
[01:25] <MitoTranin> it's given to woot.com for it's launch...
[01:25] <MitoTranin> so I don't know how much detail is on the net yet
[01:25] <superm1> oh i doubt support then
[01:26] <MitoTranin> it's not of much use to me right now though, as I have zero HD signal at my house for over-the-air and I don't feel like paying for HDTV content anytime soon
[01:26] <superm1> well too bad i have absolutely no need for another hd tuner
[01:26] <superm1> i'm happy with 3 :)
[01:27] <MitoTranin> (actually I've already had a pcHD3000 card and sold it via ebay because I couldn't get enough use out of it)
[01:27] <MitoTranin> superm1: well... then... go buy that plextor to help me figure out exactly how to get it to work right :)
[01:28] <MitoTranin> Mr. Moneypants :)
[01:30] <superm1> haha
[01:30] <tazgodx> hmmm, only button that i see that doesn't work on my remote is the back/exit button. is there a way to configure that as an esc keypress?
[01:31] <superm1> tazgodx, its been setup that way as of the latest updates
[01:31] <superm1> tazgodx, open up mcc and hit regenerate dynamic buttons
[01:31] <superm1> and restart mythfrontend
[01:31] <superm1> you need mythbuntu-lirc-generator 0.14-0ubuntu1 for it
[01:31] <superm1> which was released yesterday
[01:32] <tazgodx> mcc? :)
[01:32] <superm1> get mythbot working again
[01:32] <superm1> mythbuntu-control-centre
[01:32] <foxbuntu> tazgodx, if its does not resovle it let me know specificly
[01:33] <therethinker> Why?
[01:33] <therethinker> What'd I do
[01:33] <therethinker> Oh
[01:33] <therethinker> Yeah, its getting better
[01:33] <tazgodx> quick question is there a way i can make mythbuntu output to my VGA instead of only S-Video? cause my TV SUCKS as a TV monitor...
[01:34] <therethinker> it can now query ubotu privately
[01:34] <tazgodx> ssh has been my friend for a while on this box
[01:35] <rhpot1991> use vnc
[01:35] <therethinker> $mcc
[01:35] <mythbot> The Mythbuntu Control Centre is a GUI used to configure the system.  From here you can select what kind of system (Backend, Frontend, Both) you want.  You can also install different desktops such as ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop.  Install Plugins.  Configure MySQL.    Set passwords, install proprietary drivers, proprietary codecs, setup remote controls, and a range of other bells and whistles.  MCC is the cat's pajamas.
[01:35] <rhpot1991> then you don't need to worry about it
[01:35] <tazgodx> vnc huh
[01:36] <superm1> therethinker, can you set him up so we can teach him things in irc
[01:36] <superm1> if he checks to make sure we are who we claim we are and such
[01:36] <rhpot1991> tazgodx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC
[01:36] <tazgodx> is vnc installed by default on mythbuntu, or do i have to install?
[01:36] <superm1> tazgodx, install it via mcc
[01:36] <MitoTranin> tazgodx: you can install it via the mcc
[01:36] <therethinker> superm1: yep, thast my next task
[01:36] <MitoTranin> that will configure it etc for you too
[01:37] <rhpot1991> superm1 he only has ssh access right now
[01:37] <rhpot1991> or thats how I took it
[01:37] <tazgodx> haha, ok :)
[01:37] <Daviey> therethinker: You know ubotu's src is avaliable?
[01:37] <superm1> tazgodx, again make sure that you update to the latest mcc.  0.8-0ubuntu1
[01:38] <therethinker> Daviey
[01:38] <therethinker> Yeah
[01:38] <tazgodx> updateing now
[01:38] <therethinker> Daviey: Yeah, but I didn't like it
[01:38] <Daviey> Bloated eh?
[01:38] <therethinker> Not bloated... just...
[01:38] <therethinker> It would be awkward to use with my setup
[01:39] <therethinker> it depended on .cgi's for web pages -- I don't have that setup.
[01:39] <therethinker> The web thing for mythbot was simple, thanks to django :P
[01:39] <therethinker> Yeah, so watch this
[01:39] <therethinker> $0gqwhg0w
[01:39] <mythbot> Neither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about this
[01:40] <superm1> and if you do something ubotu knows
[01:40] <superm1> what happens?
[01:40] <therethinker> It will say
[01:40] <superm1> $medibuntu
[01:40] <therethinker> but I can't think of anything wikipedia knows that ubotu won't :P
[01:40] <mythbot> Sorry, I don't know anything about medibuntu. Wikipedia: "The Penguin Liberation Front (PLF) provides packages of so-called 'endangered software' - free software with a questionable legal status in some countries - for Linux users and developers." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medibuntu.
[01:40] <superm1> hm ubotu should have known that before wikipedia did
[01:40] <therethinker> I know
[01:41] <superm1> lets try another
[01:41] <therethinker> But it's a pain...
[01:41] <superm1> !automatix
[01:41] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[01:41] <mythbot> Although I didn't know, ubotu says:Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[01:41] <superm1> $automatix
[01:41] <mythbot> Sorry, I don't know anything about automatix. Wikipedia: "Automatix Inc., founded in January 1980, was the first company to market industrial robots with built-in machine vision." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatix.
[01:41] <superm1> wha?
[01:41] <therethinker> Whoa
[01:41] <therethinker> I think mythbot also responds to !
[01:41] <therethinker> !therethinker
[01:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about therethinker - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:41] <mythbot> Neither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about this
[01:41] <superm1> haha.
[01:41] <tazgodx> haha
[01:41] <superm1> okay well that needs to change :)
[01:41] <therethinker> What?! Who deleted me?
[01:41] <therethinker> YEah
[01:41] <therethinker> Bugs galore :P
[01:42] <superm1> $superm1
[01:42] <mythbot> superm1 is the programmer who is in charge of Mythbuntu.
[01:42] <foxbuntu> $foxbuntu
[01:42] <mythbot> foxbuntu is a mythbuntu dev, he is leet. tgm4883 wishes he was as leet as foxbuntu.
[01:42] <foxbuntu> :)
[01:42] <therethinker> I need to lock you out from changing things :P
[01:42] <foxbuntu> therethinker, I didnt change anything
[01:42] <foxbuntu> :)
[01:42] <Daviey> $Daviey
[01:42] <mythbot> Neither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about this
[01:42] <tazgodx> $TazgodX
[01:43] <therethinker> Aww... you're unloved
[01:43] <mythbot> Neither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about this
[01:43] <therethinker> Oh
[01:43] <therethinker> I forgot to tell you
[01:43] <therethinker> Whenever you add a command, it must be in all lower case
[01:43] <tazgodx> should say, "pain in the ass who doesn't do anything but ask questions"
[01:43] <Daviey> ah
[01:43] <therethinker> without !, ?, |, ., or .
[01:43] <therethinker> I'll fix that
[01:43] <therethinker> $Daviey
[01:43] <mythbot> Daviey rocks the casbah \o/ and is a Mythbuntu dev
[01:44] <therethinker> You still need to do that... I fixed just daviey's entry
[01:44] <tgm4883_laptop> tazgodx, thats not entirely accurate.  You forgot Sony Fanboy
[01:44] <tazgodx> yeah that too
[01:47] <rhpot1991> anyone here ever mess with openwrt?
[01:47] <superm1> yeah i use it
[01:47] <tgm4883_laptop> i played with it a bit, but went back to ddwrt
[01:47] <rhpot1991> just ordered this today: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833320008&Tpk=wl-500g
[01:47] <rhpot1991> plan on running openwrt on it
[01:48] <superm1> seems pretty pricey for a router just to use openwrt
[01:48] <rhpot1991> I got fed up with this belkin PoS and its randomly dieing anything I do anything intensive
[01:48] <superm1> ooh but 2 usb's
[01:48] <rhpot1991> you know it
[01:48] <rhpot1991> usb hard drive it up then I can run things right on the router
[01:49] <rhpot1991> also I can experiment with hooking it up to my roomba then too
[01:50] <rhpot1991> I'm wishful that my printer will be able to be hosted by it
[01:51] <rhpot1991> out of the box it can do that, but I'm not convinced openwrt will be able to
[01:52] <superm1> why?
[01:52] <rhpot1991> driver support
[01:52] <superm1> cups should be available
[01:52] <tgm4883_laptop> superm1, take a loot at the about page and let me know if I need to fix anything
[01:52] <rhpot1991> is cups available in openwrt?
[01:52] <superm1> via x-wrt i thought
[01:52] <rhpot1991> last time I tried to install this (canon pixma ip8500) in linux things didn't go well
[01:53] <superm1> never had a router with usb though, so i didn't look into it too much :)
[01:53] <rhpot1991> I was trying to install amd64 a few years back though, so many things didn't work or weren't available
[01:53] <superm1> tgm4883_laptop, where did this come from? http://www.mythbuntu.org/files/images/usplash.preview.png
[01:53] <superm1> i didn't know we had a usplash like that :)
[01:53] <tgm4883_laptop> yep :)
[01:53] <superm1> tgm4883_laptop, switch code and m-c-c
[01:54] <tgm4883_laptop> i pulled it from mythbuntu-artwork per info from foxbuntu
[01:54] <superm1> and then i think it looks good
[01:54] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[01:56] <tgm4883_laptop> fixed
[01:57] <tazgodx> you know what you guys should add to the MCC system services thing, or somewhere, that no-ip.com prog to give you a dynamic IP at all times
[01:57] <superm1> tgm4883_laptop, one more thing.  can you add more space between desktop and m-c-c
[01:57] <superm1> so the pics don't all overlap
[01:57] <superm1> height wise
[01:58] <tgm4883_laptop> the pics or the wording?
[01:58] <superm1> well lower the m-c-c title
[01:58] <superm1> and everything else will follow
[01:58] <superm1> i'd think
[01:58] <tgm4883_laptop> ah ok
[01:58] <tazgodx> ok superm1, where is the "regenerate dynamic buttons"?
[01:58] <superm1> on the remote control tab
[01:59] <tazgodx> oh, its a checkbox...got it :) thanks
[01:59] <tgm4883_laptop> fixed again
[02:00] <superm1> yeah that looks great
[02:00] <superm1> nn
[02:01] <DaveMorris> night Dav
[02:01] <DaveMorris> Daviey: even
[02:04] <foxbuntu_> tazgodx, I found an error in my update (0.14-0ubuntu1) of the lirc-generator...that won't fix your back button...however the error has been resolved in further testing and when we can release 0.15 it will be fixed so you can just generate new keys
[02:07] <tazgodx> ok, i was gonna say, its still not working
[02:07] <superm1> tgm4883_laptop, okay i'll add that page to m-d-s
[02:07] <superm1> in a cached variant
[02:07] <superm1> we're going to need release notes too, since the installer links to them.  but not for at least a week
[02:12] <Xenocide> tgm4883_laptop just got back from errands rebooting into myth buntu in one second
[02:12] <therethinker> Hmm
[02:12] <therethinker> this is hard
[02:13] <therethinker> For some reason, it responds to ubotu
[02:13] <therethinker> which isn't good
[02:13] <therethinker> !cheese
[02:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cheese - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:14] <Xenocide> superm1 should i use 1366x768 if the tv supports it or just 1280x768?
[02:15] <tgm4883_laptop> Xenocide, I'm not sure you can use 1366x768
[02:17] <mythbot> I'm a person
[02:17] <tazgodx> in MCC if i enable NFS, does that configure anything or just enable it for me to configure?
[02:19] <Xenocide> tgm4883_laptop im getting some scan lines too :(
[02:19] <therethinker> Hey can some one help me test?
[02:19] <therethinker> Just pop in #mythbot
[02:30] <pdragon> wow... those hdtv cards are still up on woot.com. they must be spectacular :p
[02:30] <foxbuntu_> $laga
[02:30] <mythbot> laga is a programmer from the other side of the ocean for Mythtv. Therefore, it is probably best to not listen to him.
[02:32] <therethinker> Oh my got
[02:32] <therethinker> *god
[02:32] <therethinker> sorry, I didn't mean to switch him quite yet :P
[02:34] <pdragon> heh... might want to wait a day or two after you think he's ready ;)
[02:36] <therethinker> I think he's ready ready
[02:36] <therethinker> I thought he was ready last night :P
[02:36] <tazgodx> time to try to set up NFS
[02:39] <therethinker> Hello mythbot!
[02:39] <mythbot> Hello therethinker.
[02:39] <therethinker> Should we put something in the room topic about mythbot?
[02:39] <foxbuntu_> Hi mythbot
[02:39] <mythbot> Hi foxbuntu_.
[02:39] <therethinker> Isn't he lovable? :P
[02:39] <tazgodx> oh, maybe it is set up :)
[02:39] <foxbuntu_> g'day mythbot
[02:40] <therethinker> hi mythbot!?
[02:40] <foxbuntu_> mythbot, do you love laga?
[02:40] <therethinker> mythbot!?
[02:40] <therethinker> Stop playing with him D:
[02:40] <foxbuntu_> hes broken again
[02:40] <therethinker> No he isn't
[02:40] <therethinker> $mcc
[02:40] <mythbot> The Mythbuntu Control Centre is a GUI used to configure the system.  From here you can select what kind of system (Backend, Frontend, Both) you want.  You can also install different desktops such as ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop, install plugins, configure MySQL, set passwords, install proprietary drivers, proprietary codecs, setup remote controls, and a range of other bells and whistles.
[02:40] <therethinker> .gc Mythbuntu
[02:40] <foxbuntu_> $lovelagalongtime
[02:40] <mythbot> Neither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "please don't", sorry.
[02:41] <tazgodx> $tazgodx
[02:41] <mythbot> Neither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "tazgodx", sorry.
[02:41] <foxbuntu_> $foxbuntu
[02:41] <mythbot> foxbuntu is a mythbuntu dev, he is leet. tgm4883 wishes he was as leet as foxbuntu.
[02:41] <therethinker> $infect tazgodz
[02:41] <mythbot> /me takes control of tazgodz's computer, formats the hard drive, and installs Windows ME on it.
[02:41] <therethinker> $infect tazgodx
[02:41] <mythbot> /me takes control of tazgodx's computer, formats the hard drive, and installs Windows ME on it.
[02:41] <tazgodx> lol
[02:41] <foxbuntu_> lol
[02:41] <therethinker> they'res 2 more
[02:41] <rhpot1991> tazgodx you can set up nfs shares to auto mount in /etc/fstab, thats how I did mine
[02:42] <foxbuntu_> $crush laga
[02:42] <tazgodx> yeah, im bout to set that up
[02:42] <therethinker> yeah, that's how I did it
[02:42] <mythbot> Neither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "crush laga", sorry.
[02:42] <rhpot1991> I didn't see it mentioned earlier so I wanted to toss it out there
[02:42] <tazgodx> $poke therethinker
[02:42] <mythbot> Neither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "please don't", sorry.
[02:42] <pdragon> that cant be right
[02:42] <tazgodx> too long
[02:43] <therethinker> Stp[
[02:43] <therethinker> *Stop
[02:43] <therethinker> stop trying to figure out the $ commands :P
[02:43] <therethinker> They're seacrets :P
[02:43] <tazgodx> haha, someone needs to know then
[02:43] <therethinker> *guards heavily*
[02:43] <tazgodx> them
[02:43] <therethinker> Id do :P
[02:43] <foxbuntu_> therethinker, I am just gonna look them up
[02:43] <therethinker> how?
[02:43] <therethinker> They're not in the DB
[02:43] <therethinker> They're semihardcoded
[02:43] <foxbuntu_> $infect therethinker
[02:43] <rhpot1991> they are at least being nice about it, we would always try to pass rm -rf's to my friends bot and see if it would delete itself
[02:43] <mythbot> /me takes control of therethinker's computer, formats the hard drive, and installs Windows ME on it.
[02:44] <foxbuntu_> thats how
[02:44] <therethinker> Okay, lets stop
[02:44] <foxbuntu_> muwhaaa!
[02:44] <tazgodx> haha, didn't hardcode a way for it not to be used on you did ya?
[02:44] <therethinker> rhpo1991 is trying to get help
[02:44] <foxbuntu_> k
[02:44] <foxbuntu_> rhpot1991, what did you need?
[02:44] <therethinker> *rhpot1991
[02:44] <rhpot1991> I'm not
[02:44] <rhpot1991> heh
[02:44] <therethinker> Oh, sorry :P
[02:44] <pdragon> back to bot abuse!
[02:44] <therethinker> You're saying things that actually have to do with the channel :P
[02:44] <therethinker> Noo!
[02:44] <pdragon> $whack off
[02:45] <therethinker> I don't want superm1 to ban it
[02:45] <mythbot> /me whacks off
[02:45] <rhpot1991> unless someone is gonna fix mythtv.pm missing from feisty
[02:45] <therethinker> Okay, I'll tell you, just so you stop guessing
[02:45] <foxbuntu_> off to dinner folks
[02:45] <foxbuntu_> bye mythbot
[02:45] <therethinker> $poke pdragon
[02:45] <mythbot> stabs pdragon violently with a rusty spoon
[02:45] <pdragon> ouchie
[02:45] <foxbuntu_> bye mythbot
[02:46] <Xenocide> tgm4883_laptop im having some dependency problems
[02:46] <therethinker> $crush foxbuntu
[02:46] <mythbot> pummels foxbuntu to the ground!!!
[02:46] <foxbuntu_> $crush laga
[02:46] <mythbot> pummels laga to the ground!!!
[02:46] <foxbuntu_> YAY!!!
[02:46] <therethinker> Sorry,
[02:46] <therethinker> $crush laga
[02:46] <mythbot> pummels laga to the ground!!!
[02:46] <foxbuntu_> YAY!!
[02:46] <therethinker> NOOWW do it :P
[02:46] <therethinker> Wait, don't
[02:46] <therethinker> I don't support this bot abuse >_>
[02:47] <therethinker> $crush laga
[02:47] <mythbot> /me pummels laga to the ground!!!
[02:47] <therethinker> Sorry, can't help self
[02:47] <foxbuntu_> $poke mythbot
[02:47] <mythbot> /me stabs mythbot violently with a rusty spoon
[02:47] <tazgodx> haha
[02:47] <foxbuntu_> $poke ubotu
[02:47] <mythbot> /me stabs ubotu violently with a rusty spoon
[02:47] <tazgodx> poke worked
[02:47] <therethinker> Yeah
[02:48] <foxbuntu_> nice work therethinker
[02:48] <therethinker> I added some, forgot the /me
[02:48] <therethinker> Thank you :-)
[02:48] <foxbuntu_> entertainment
[02:48] <therethinker> Now back to real work
[02:48] <tazgodx> i had that one, but used a name too long
[02:48] <tazgodx> :(
[02:48] <foxbuntu_> be back later...gonna grab a bite
[02:49] <tazgodx> im really starting to like mythbuntu!
[02:49] <tazgodx> ty guys! :)
[02:49] <pdragon> fun ain't it?
[02:49] <therethinker2> I geues..
[02:49] <therethinker2> sorry :P
[02:50] <therethinker2> Hello!
[02:50] <therethinker2> Do you need help?
[02:51] <mdmcmull> hey guys, just tried out mythbuntu and tried to play a DVD and it won't play. Looked at the logs, and it says encrypted dvd support is not present... I guess I need to install libdvdcss2 ?
[02:51] <pdragon> yep
[02:51] <therethinker2> You can do that in mcc
[02:51] <tazgodx> tahts in the mcc
[02:51] <MythbuntuGuest45> superm1 as soon as i install restricted nvidia driver i get that screen cut in half stuff again
[02:51] <pdragon> oh it's added now?
[02:51] <mdmcmull> ah, cool.  I'll check the mcc now
[02:52] <therethinker2> do you know what mcc is? (we're very eager to use our new bot :P)
[02:53] <superm1> Xenocide, sounds like a personal problem
[02:53] <superm1> take a picture
[02:53] <superm1> and show us
[02:53] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest45, what resolution?
[02:53] <Xenocide> 1280x768
[02:53] <Xenocide> works fine on vesa drivers
[02:53] <Xenocide> superm1 this is the same setup i used on feisty
[02:53] <Xenocide> just the lcd tv now
[02:53] <tgm4883_laptop> what card
[02:53] <superm1> Xenocide, well like i said the tv can be your issue here
[02:53] <Xenocide> geforce 6200
[02:53] <superm1> that's why i wanted to see you try it with a monitor
[02:53] <Xenocide> why would it work fine with vesa drivers though
[02:53] <tgm4883_laptop> Xenocide, what driver?
[02:54] <Xenocide> nvidia glx new
[02:54] <tgm4883_laptop> use nvidia glx
[02:54] <Xenocide> let me take a pic then ill try that
[02:54] <superm1> you can switch over by apt-get install nvidia-glx (that will remove nvidia-glx-new)
[02:54] <superm1> but yeah i'm curious to see this in action
[02:55] <tazgodx> are there plans to implement the installation of a serial ir blaster?
[02:55] <Xenocide> im assuming live cd automatically uses restricted drivers thats why i couldn't use it
[02:55] <superm1> tazgodx, yeah but its deffered until hardy
[02:55] <superm1> or deferred even
[02:55] <superm1> Xenocide, no it doesnt
[02:56] <superm1> Xenocide, it uses the 'nv' driver
[02:56] <Xenocide> hm
[02:56] <tazgodx> until hardy?
[02:56] <superm1> Xenocide, if you chose safe graphics mode on the cd, it would use vesa
[02:56] <Xenocide> [IMG] http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v362/xenner/IMG_0330.jpg[/IMG] 
[02:56] <superm1> tazgodx, ubuntu 8.04
[02:56] <Xenocide> safe mode crashed all together said can't open tty
[02:56] <tazgodx> ahhh, they already have the name for it?
[02:56] <superm1> yeah hardy heron
[02:56] <Xenocide> installing nvidia-glx now
[02:56] <Xenocide> see if that works..
[02:57] <superm1> Xenocide, okay so its not that its cut off
[02:57] <superm1> its that it is off centre
[02:57] <Xenocide> well how would i fix that
[02:57] <superm1> how is it hooked up?
[02:57] <Xenocide> vga cable to tv
[02:57] <superm1> go in the tv menu system
[02:57] <Xenocide> i had the dvi to hdmi but you told me to buy a differen't cable
[02:57] <superm1> and hit the auto sync focus option
[02:58] <superm1> most tv's have it for vga
[02:58] <Xenocide> ok. let me put the old driver back
[02:58] <superm1> its the equivalent of the "Auto" option on a regular LCD monitor
[02:58] <tazgodx> ok, i have a few quick problems, but i can live with them i guess. when i close mythtv-frontend, i have like 5 network managers open in my bar.
[02:58] <therethinker> .weather bos
[02:58] <Xenocide> auto adjust didnt' seem to work...
[02:58] <superm1> tazgodx, that's fixed for the RC
[02:58] <tazgodx> also, i just put in a DVD and it opened an explorer window over mythtv-frontend
[02:59] <pdragon> tazgodx: there's a bug in for that. fixed for rc. how to fix it is in the bug report
[02:59] <superm1> tazgodx, that is a trouble though with the dvd, can you file a report on that?
[02:59] <pdragon> it's actually fixed in an update that's out now. don't know what package but updating fixes it
[02:59] <superm1> mythbuntu-default-settings
[02:59] <superm1> fixes it
[02:59] <tazgodx> i just updated
[02:59] <superm1> and network manager
[02:59] <superm1> the combo of the two
[02:59] <superm1> you have to rm ~/.cache -rf
[03:00] <superm1> to get rid of the extras though
[03:00] <therethinker> I'm going to hit the hay, bye ;-)
[03:00] <superm1> night therethinker
[03:00] <therethinker> thanks superm1
[03:01] <tazgodx> ok so i just have to run "rm ~/.cache -rf" after my update to get those fixes to work?
[03:02] <superm1> that should be it
[03:02] <superm1> pdragon, you reported the mplayer issue yesterday right?
[03:02] <pdragon> yes. i just turned the screensaver off back in xfce and everything worked fine
[03:02] <superm1> pdragon, well it should also be fixed in the mplayer upload i did yesterday
[03:02] <superm1> after you told me about it, i decided to investigate it
[03:03] <mdmcmull> just a comment, I found the option to install libdvdcss2 in mcc, and also w32codecs. But that fails on AMD64 -- it should be w64codecs on that platform :)
[03:03] <superm1> mdmcmull, yeah therethinker is on it :)
[03:03] <pdragon> superm1: alright. i'll turn the screensaver back on and update after Heroes is over :)
[03:03] <mdmcmull> anyhow, libdvdcss2 installed fine now, so I can watch dvds -- thanks so much for the help! :-)
[03:03] <superm1> oh that's right heroes is tonight
[03:04] <superm1> i probably won't be able to watch it for a few days though :(
[03:04] <pdragon> that's what mythtv is for! :)
[03:04] <tazgodx> hmm, inserting my dvd again, after that command, still opens a window over my mythtv-frontend
[03:04] <superm1> tazgodx, yeah like i said, we need a bug report on that :)
[03:04] <superm1> it will have to be investigated still
[03:04] <Xenocide> superm1 i adjusted it manually, but now my optoins aren't comming up in myth-setup
[03:05] <superm1> Xenocide, what options
[03:05] <Xenocide> channels, setup, tuners
[03:05] <Xenocide> the white ones
[03:05] <tazgodx> where do i submit bug reports?
[03:05] <Xenocide> not showing up
[03:05] <superm1> tazgodx, http://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu
[03:06] <superm1> Xenocide, the text is missing?
[03:06] <superm1> or what
[03:06] <tazgodx> report thta bug now
[03:06] <Xenocide> yes superm1
[03:07] <Xenocide> if i use the arrows and enter i can get to them, but i know which ones they are from setting it up before
[03:07] <Xenocide> but no text shows
[03:07] <superm1> Xenocide, sounds like you are missing msttcorefonts
[03:08] <Xenocide> it did give me a dependency error earlier
[03:08] <superm1> what error?
[03:08] <Xenocide> but i just checked, and those are installed
[03:08] <Xenocide> it was something with fonts
[03:08] <superm1> when installign mythbuntu-desktop?
[03:08] <Xenocide> yes
[03:08] <superm1> well just because the package is installed doesn't mean the fonts are there
[03:08] <superm1> msttcorefonts is an installer package
[03:08] <superm1> that wget's them
[03:09] <superm1> so if your intarweb wasn't working for some reason
[03:09] <superm1> momentarily
[03:09] <superm1> that would be why
[03:09] <Xenocide> should i --purge it and try to install it again?
[03:09] <superm1> wouldn't hurt to reinstall it
[03:10] <Xenocide> well it says it wan'ts to remove backend and frontend to install that :-/
[03:10] <Xenocide> *remove
[03:10] <superm1> well then just do apt-get install --reinstall
[03:10] <superm1> or do it in synaptic even
[03:10] <superm1> synaptic is installed by default
[03:11] <Xenocide> alll it did was say all fonts downloaded and installed
[03:11] <Xenocide> but never fetched anything
[03:12] <superm1> well your call what to do then
[03:12] <superm1> you can always purge and reinstall
[03:12] <Xenocide> i might try that
[03:15] <tazgodx> how do i get my version information and what versions do you want submitted with that bug report?
[03:16] <superm1> tazgodx, dpkg -l | grep package
[03:16] <superm1> will get you the version of that package you have installed
[03:16] <superm1> send the version of Thunar, and mythbuntu-default-settings
[03:16] <superm1> and that should be sufficient
[03:17] <pdragon> superm1: oh... where is the Myth.pm file at? Ran into this bug when trying to run the channel icons script
[03:17] <pdragon> http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/4047
[03:17] <superm1> guys i've gotta run for a few hours
[03:17] <superm1> sorry
[03:17] <pdragon> alright
[03:18] <superm1> Dawson64, you may want to brign this up on the ivtv mailing list http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3499901#post3499901
[03:18] <superm1> that looks pretty nasty :(
[03:18] <pdragon> was that to me?
[03:18] <pdragon> the nasty comment
[03:19] <superm1> no pdragon that was to Dawson64
[03:19] <pdragon> ahh
[03:19] <superm1> pdragon, do a dpkg -L mythtv-common
[03:19] <superm1> and you'll find the file
[03:19] <superm1> gl
[03:19] <pdragon> alright. cya
[03:26] <Dawson64> can someone paste that link superm1 left for me?  I signed out & lost it
[03:26] <pdragon> sec
[03:27] <pdragon> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3499901#post3499901
[03:27] <Dawson64> thankyou
[03:28] <tazgodx> so, anyone have an jobs for the backend to trnascode a recording to xvid, or divx without the commercials so i can save some space?
[03:29] <rhpot1991> I was going to make a job to convert to xvid for the ipod and trim comercials
[03:29] <rhpot1991> but I need to fix my missing mythtv.pm first
[03:29] <tazgodx> yeah, i saw one for the ipod, but i want normal screen size, cause i don't have a ipod video
[03:30] <rhpot1991> I saw words about ffmpeg encoding to xvid in the forums let me search again
[03:32] <rhpot1991> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=346778&highlight=ffmpeg+xvid
[03:32] <rhpot1991> seems to be what you are looking for
[03:32] <rhpot1991> my box actually stores everythign as mpeg2, prob cause of my hauppauge cards?
[03:39] <pdragon> yes, that's the format they record in
[03:39] <pdragon> i have a pvr-150
[03:39] <tazgodx> i have a PVR-350
[03:39] <MitoTranin> tazgodx: the pvr-150 and pvr-350 are identical
[03:39] <rhpot1991> same here
[03:39] <tazgodx> mine are stored as mpg, i jsut want to encode it so its a smaller size
[03:39] <MitoTranin> the only difference is that the 350 has TV-out as well
[03:39] <rhpot1991> and no they aren't
[03:40] <MitoTranin> rhpot1991: yes, they are
[03:40] <rhpot1991> 350 has the output and a slightly better tuner
[03:40] <MitoTranin> no
[03:40] <MitoTranin> the tuner is identical
[03:40] <tazgodx> same tuner, just output
[03:40] <MitoTranin> the only difference is that the 350 has output added
[03:40] <tazgodx> MitoTranin is right
[03:40] <rhpot1991> hmmm I read otherwise
[03:40] <MitoTranin> as far as input is concerned, they are identical
[03:40] <tazgodx> i have a 500 being shipped now, just waiting for it. and its jsut 2 150 in one
[03:41] <MitoTranin> rhpot1991: they have the exact same chipsets and inputs...
[03:41] <MitoTranin> take away the output of the 350 and they are the exact same
[03:41] <rhpot1991> alright I trust you
[03:41] <tazgodx> i bought the 350 cause it came with a remote
[03:41] <MitoTranin> BUT: do note that there are over a dozen different varrieties of each
[03:41] <tazgodx> and i didn't see any 150s with a remote
[03:41] <pdragon> one i got came with a remote but i haven't set it up
[03:41] <rhpot1991> I thought that the 150's have been through a few different variations
[03:42] <rhpot1991> my 150 came with a remote, retail box from CC
[03:42] <pdragon> same here
[03:42] <MitoTranin> just like there is only one Win95, but technically, there is Win95a, Win95b, win95c
[03:42] <rhpot1991> gotta make sure its not some repacked HVR1600 though
[03:42] <MitoTranin> (sorry for the winblowz reference btw)
[03:43] <rhpot1991> heh
[03:43] <rhpot1991> I need to get a bigger hard drive for my 2nd backend
[03:45] <tazgodx> i just finished setting up my LVM on here
[03:45] <rhpot1991> LVM is the way to go
[03:45] <tazgodx> i wish it was easier to set up
[03:46] <rhpot1991> its a bit of a pain
[03:46] <rhpot1991> I ripped my hair out for a night trying to add a drive
[03:50] <tazgodx> is nuvexport already installed on mythbuntu?
[03:51] <rhpot1991> I think it might be in contrib
[03:51] <Xenocide> hey guys i got everything setup but whe ni set my playback aspect ratio to 16/9 i have a black bar on the left hand side, the menus look perfectly
[03:52] <tazgodx> did you set up a widescreen theme?
[03:52] <Xenocide> the theme works fine
[03:52] <Xenocide> its the playback
[03:52] <tazgodx> oh
[03:53] <rhpot1991> record resolution not in wide screen?
[03:53] <Xenocide> um
[03:53] <Xenocide> i just have it set to the max i could
[03:53] <Xenocide> 720x480..
[03:53] <Xenocide> pvr 150's
[03:54] <rhpot1991> I don't see nuvexport in any packages
[03:54] <rhpot1991> checked the official ubuntu ones, not sure if there is any sort of package search for the mythbuntu ones
[03:56] <Xenocide> also anyway to get rid of scanlines on an lcd monitor
[03:56] <Xenocide> kind of annoying
[03:57] <tazgodx> there is an lcd checkbox in the setup
[03:57] <Xenocide> oh really
[03:59] <Xenocide> that lcd your tlaking about is for displaying info
[03:59] <Xenocide> not an lcd monitor
[04:09] <tazgodx> hmm, so if i put a file with multiple audio does it automatically pick one to use? and is there a way to change it?
[04:11] <pdragon> are you playing with mplayer?
[04:11] <tazgodx> im not sure what it plays with
[04:12] <pdragon> mplayer is the default media file player unless you changed it
[04:12] <tazgodx> than that would be the one
[04:12] <pdragon> check the manpage for mplayer. there's ways to change the audio & subtitles if they're available
[04:13] <tazgodx> so does mythbuntu have mplayer commands set up for the remote by default? all i can seem to get to work is skip forward and back
[04:14] <pdragon> i don't know honestly. i haven't set up a remote yet
[04:15] <tazgodx> i don't know if i could work this all with my keyboard without a remote
[04:15] <tazgodx> it would drive me nutz
[04:17] <pdragon> hehe. i had my own ghetto media center hooked up to my tv before i found this. just to watch tv shows i downloaded
[04:17] <pdragon> all i used was a keyboard, so i'm used to it
[04:18] <tazgodx> well, i have a wireless keyboard/mouse combo but i just can't see useing that instead of a mouse, size does matter in that case
[04:22] <tazgodx> new question, is it possible to give mythweb, a couple different user/pass combos?
[04:22] <tazgodx> and is there a way i can hide certain videos? :)
[04:23] <rhpot1991> different users yes
[04:23] <rhpot1991> hide videos not that I know of
[04:23] <rhpot1991> unless you hide htem from myth itself
[04:23] <tazgodx> well that would defy the point of recording them on there
[04:24] <tazgodx> i guess ill worry about that part later
[04:24] <rhpot1991> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythWeb
[04:24] <rhpot1991> follow the security part there
[04:24] <rhpot1991> and just do it more than once
[04:33] <tazgodx> but you can only add usernames?
[04:33] <tazgodx> not a new password for them?
[04:37] <rhpot1991> it prompts you for passwords
[04:37] <rhpot1991> the htpasswd command
[04:37] <tazgodx> oh well maybe ill set that up next
[04:37] <tazgodx> :)
[04:47] <Xenocide> anyone have problems with scan lines on their tv
[04:51] <rhpot1991> hmmm is there any way of leaving a message in here?
[04:52] <tgm4883_laptop> superm1, http://www.geekstir.com/mariopumpkin.html
[04:53] <rhpot1991> tgm4883_laptop: does superm1 go back and read what he missed?
[04:53] <tgm4883_laptop> yea
[04:53] <tgm4883_laptop> is there something you needed
[04:54] <rhpot1991> superm1: I just did a fresh feisty install, installed ubuntu-mythtv-frontend from the ubuntu repos, then added mythbuntu weekly builds, apt-get update and apt-get upgrade, and now the package is stuck updating here too
[04:55] <rhpot1991> I talked to him about this problem before, it was happening on 2 of my other boxes and I tried everything, purging mythtv and reinstalling and everything, wont go away
[04:56] <pdragon> got channel icons working :)
[05:15] <pdragon> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Channel_icons
[05:15] <pdragon> put the thing about the bug in and add an example
[05:15] <pdragon> *added
[05:18] <rhpot1991> I think I just used mythfilldatabase to get my icons
[05:19] <pdragon> how did you get the icons and icon map to give it?
[05:20] <rhpot1991> I think I might have used the master_icon.xml file from svn
[05:20] <rhpot1991> now I am confused
[05:20] <rhpot1991> I did it then tried the new way which didn't work ended up breaking things then got it working and left it alone
[05:20] <rhpot1991> I am missing a few icons though
[05:21] <pdragon> you can run that script with the --find-missing option and it will find them
[05:21] <rhpot1991> which script?
[05:21] <pdragon> the one on that page i linked
[05:21] <rhpot1991> I am missing the perl bindings currently
[05:21] <rhpot1991> I'll look at it again when I upgrade to gutsy
[05:21] <pdragon> doh that's right
[05:53] <tazgodx> anyone know where to go to change the OSD?
[05:53] <tazgodx> and why mplayer enables a screensaver?
[06:04] <superm1> tazgodx, update your mplayer
[06:04] <superm1> i fixed that last night
[06:04] <superm1> osd is in tv settings
[06:06] <tazgodx> i added a line to my mplayer config, and it seems to be working
[06:07] <superm1> well the mplayer update i pushed last night updates the default config
[06:07] <superm1> you can do it locally too
[06:08] <tazgodx> i added sothing to my bug
[06:11] <superm1> yeah i'm not sure about resolving that.
[06:11] <superm1> update notifier is kinda a necessary evil
[06:12] <tazgodx> is there a way just to disable it from having a popup telling me i have an update? just show me the icon in the toolbar?
[06:14] <superm1> try right clicking it in the bar
[06:14] <superm1> and see if it has such an option
[06:15] <tazgodx> that one is not as annoying as when i insert the DVD and the explorer window pops up, but its just nice to have it running nice and smooth :)
[06:27] <tazgodx> so superm1 whats the best way of mounting an iso that i have on this computer and playing it on my mythbox? transfer the iso over to the box and mount there?
[06:27] <superm1> tazgodx, i might have a fix for yoiu
[06:27] <superm1> give me a sec
[06:27] <tazgodx> ok
[06:28] <tazgodx> im just watching a movie, so i have plenty of time
[06:28] <superm1> tazgodx, actually some media players can directly play the ISO
[06:28] <superm1> if its a dvd rip
[06:29] <superm1> look at bug 150790
[06:29] <superm1> try the fix i attached to it
[06:29] <superm1> eh no ubotu answering?
[06:29] <superm1> !bug 150790
[06:29] <superm1> $bug 150790
[06:29] <mythbot> Although I didn't know, ubotu says: Launchpad bug 150790 in mythbuntu "explorere window pops up over Mythtv-frontend when DVD is inserted" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/150790
[06:31] <superm1> ubotu, you feeling ok?
[06:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about you feeling ok? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:31] <mythbot> Neither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "you feeling", sorry.
[06:34] <tazgodx> guess not
[06:34] <tazgodx> about him feeling ok, not th fix. im still rebooting
[06:37] <tazgodx> hey, it didn't popup. i just had the menu change to the optical disk menu, which is what i wanted :)
[06:38] <tazgodx> ok here is something i didn't notice before tho, now if i just hit the eject button i get a popup saying unmounting media, once again not a big problem jsut doesn't look good
[06:39] <superm1> does the popup go away?
[06:39] <tazgodx> yeah
[06:39] <superm1> okay as long as it goes away
[06:39] <tazgodx> yeah i can live with that
[06:40] <tazgodx> but i did notice that if i choose eject on the optical disk menu, it tells me it failed to eject it, when it actually didn't. everytime
[06:40] <superm1> i'm going to hold off pushing this change to mythbuntu-default-settings.  let me know anything else you run into and i can push this in a day or two
[06:40] <superm1> yeah that's a whole different method of ejecting
[06:40] <tazgodx> ok, thanks
[06:43] <tazgodx> ok on a different topic, is it possible to get mythbroswer able to play stage6 and youtube videos? i think i asked someone else this
[06:43] <superm1> i dont know for sure
[06:44] <superm1> i personally dont use mythbrowser
[06:44] <superm1> i use my opera on the wii :)
[06:44] <tazgodx> haha
[06:44] <tazgodx> i don't have anything but this mythbox so i was hoping to be able to watch videos on the web on it
[06:45] <superm1> check the mailing list archives for mythtv-users
[06:45] <tazgodx> and your right, i can just put the iso in myth/videos and it plays :)
[06:45] <tazgodx> whast the link there?
[06:45] <superm1> it might just be a matter of installing flashplayer-nonfree or something
[06:45] <superm1> http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users
[06:47] <rhpot1991> superm1: see what I said about my fresh install?
[06:47] <superm1> what?
[06:47] <rhpot1991> superm1: I just did a fresh feisty install, installed
[06:47] <rhpot1991>             ubuntu-mythtv-frontend from the ubuntu repos, then added mythbuntu
[06:47] <rhpot1991>             weekly builds, apt-get update and apt-get upgrade, and now the
[06:47] <rhpot1991>             package is stuck updating here too
[06:47] <superm1> yeah i've heard that happening to people
[06:47] <superm1> didn't find the cause though
[06:48] <tazgodx> ok, well nothing of importance in the mailing list that i see. but i could get it to work in firefox and then use that as my browser can't i?
[06:48] <rhpot1991> I'm upgrading it to gutsy as a test before I do my actual mythboxes
[06:48] <rhpot1991> I'll let you know if that cleans up the problem
[06:49] <superm1> yeah tazgodx
[06:49] <superm1> tazgodx, just visit a flash site in ff, and it will install falsh for you
[06:49] <superm1> rhpot1991, yeah it shouldn't exist in gutsy
[06:49] <superm1> its only on feisty weekly builds
[06:49] <superm1> for some reason
[06:50] <rhpot1991> are there gutsy weekly builds?
[06:50] <superm1> Not right now
[06:50] <superm1> there is no need for them right now anyway
[06:50] <rhpot1991> will there be come release?
[06:50] <superm1> one-two weeks after release yes
[06:50] <rhpot1991> alright
[06:50] <superm1> but again, they're not needed right now
[06:50] <superm1> there are no urgent fixes in them
[06:50] <superm1> that aren't already in gutsy
[06:50] <rhpot1991> also if I remove the weekly builds the problem goes away once it starts getting the packages from ubuntu repos instead
[06:51] <rhpot1991> ya
[06:53] <rhpot1991> can a gutsy backend communicate with a feisty one?
[06:54] <superm1> uae
[06:54] <superm1> yeah
[06:54] <rhpot1991> good then I can upgrade one at a time
[06:54] <superm1> i'm going to upgrade my main frontend right now too.
[06:54] <superm1> :)
[06:55] <rhpot1991> its nice and slow
[06:56] <superm1> well just imagine how the archives are going to be 10 days from now....
[06:56] <superm1> you'll be glad that you are doing it now
[06:57] <rhpot1991> I need to find a gap in recordings to do it for the boxes that I am actually using though
[06:57] <CactusFnord> superm1: I've been using the public beta now since you gave me the link. I'm very impressed.
[06:57] <superm1> great :)
[06:57] <CactusFnord> You guys have a good thing going.
[06:57] <superm1> and there are only more fixes coming in for the rc (if you haven't been apt-get update/upgrading)
[06:57] <rhpot1991> so is mythbuntu == to myth installed from gutsy now?
[06:58] <CactusFnord> excellent.
[06:58] <superm1> well ~=
[06:58] <superm1> not ==
[06:58] <superm1> not !=
[06:58] <CactusFnord> %s/~=/=~/g
[06:58] <superm1> you'd be silly to just do regular myth on top of gutsy and not do the mythbuntu packages imo
[06:58] <superm1> but i know there are people that will do that
[06:59] <rhpot1991> my original install was myth on top of feisty and I'm looking at just upgrading to gutsy
[06:59] <superm1> that's what my frontend is right now too.  hopefully its an entirely smooth upgrade
[06:59] <superm1> my other machines are all already gutsy
[06:59] <tazgodx> i installed mythtv on top of ubuntu, and it took me like 2 full days, i did the mythbuntu beta, and i have more set up. and faster
[06:59] <superm1> or dapper
[07:00] <tazgodx> few small twerks im waiting for fixes for. but over all its bad ass
[07:00] <rhpot1991> being I already have everything configured would I even get anything out of mythbuntu at this point?
[07:00] <superm1> rhpot1991, well mcc stuff
[07:00] <superm1> stuff you didn't setup before
[07:00] <superm1> that mcc can do
[07:00] <superm1> artwork
[07:00] <rhpot1991> isn't mcc in gutsy though?
[07:00] <superm1> yeah
[07:00] <superm1> your upgrading to gutsy are you not?
[07:01] <rhpot1991> within the next few days
[07:01] <superm1> and you'll get the new xfce env too
[07:01] <superm1> rather than openbox
[07:01] <superm1> so admin stuff is a bit prettier in that regard
[07:01] <rhpot1991> I have gnome installed :P
[07:01] <superm1> well that's less fun then
[07:02] <rhpot1991> I am a gnome fan and I used to randomly use it before it lost its monitor
[07:04] <superm1> oh i am too
[07:04] <superm1> just not on a standalone box
[07:04] <superm1> my dev machines and personal machines are all gnome based
[07:04] <rhpot1991> does xfce really matter over gnome?
[07:04] <rhpot1991> I know its a lighter weight
[07:04] <superm1> its more lightweight
[07:04] <superm1> yeah
[07:04] <superm1> so quicker startup
[07:04] <superm1> less memory usage
[07:04] <superm1> etc
[07:04] <rhpot1991> but its not like my amd 1900+ is struggling here
[07:05] <superm1> well its also about the psychological effect from using it
[07:05] <superm1> you will generally think that somethign that is 'known to be more lightweight' is running faster
[07:05] <superm1> its a very odd effect
[07:06] <rhpot1991> just like free food tastes better
[07:06] <superm1> exactly
[07:06] <rhpot1991> maybe I'll install the xfce4 package on the 2nd backend and see how it runs
[07:07] <superm1> so to an outsider, yeah you can say that mythbuntu is mythtv on top of gutsy with some improvements, but when you say that its a whole diff env, and then start to list the differences in the env, the person will view it much differently
[07:07] <superm1> i'm interested to see how the reviews criticize us post release
[07:07] <rhpot1991> mythbuntu still doesn't do VLM right?
[07:07] <superm1> not during the installer unfor
[07:08] <superm1> post install you can set it up to your hearts desire though
[07:11] <tazgodx> yeah, but its a pain in the ass :)
[07:12] <superm1> well its too bad that making an alternate install cd is more difficult than a standard install cd
[07:12] <superm1> er s/standard/live/
[07:12] <superm1> you would think it is the other way around
[07:12] <rhpot1991> s/VLM/LVM/, don't mind my spelling
[07:12] <tazgodx> can't it just be included in the standard/live?
[07:13] <rhpot1991> personally its a pain in the ass no matter what
[07:13] <superm1> well there is a task for it available, so probably 80% of the work to make an alternate disk is done
[07:13] <rhpot1991> but well worth the effort
[07:13] <superm1> since the task is shared between both types of disk
[07:13] <superm1> but there just isn't time to sort out the last 20 percent
[07:17] <tazgodx> man, saw 3 sucks compared to the first 2, just in case you guys wanted to see it, you can skip it
[07:17] <superm1> i liked the first one, but felt eh about the second
[07:17] <superm1> so i didnt bother with the third
[07:17] <tazgodx> i hated the first one, liked the second
[07:17] <tazgodx> and this third suck
[07:17] <tazgodx> s
[07:18] <rhpot1991> haven't seen the 3rd
[07:18] <rhpot1991> first was good, 2nd was ok
[07:18] <rhpot1991> reign over me and 28 weeks later both come out tomorrow(today), both very good
[07:18] <tazgodx> i want to see 28 weeks later
[07:19] <tazgodx> 28 days later was great
[07:20] <tazgodx> just sooo much gore in saw 3, its not the suspense that the first 2 were almost makeing me sick
[08:02] <tazgodx> $vnc
[08:02] <tazgodx> !vnc
[08:02] <mythbot> Although I didn't know, ubotu says: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[08:02] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[08:02] <mythbot> Although I didn't know, ubotu says: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[08:11] <tazgodx> why can't i connect to my mythbox with vnc?
[08:11] <tazgodx> says server isn't running on host machine
[08:12] <rhpot1991> there is an option you have to enable for it to connect
[08:12] <tazgodx> i have it enables in the MCC
[08:12] <rhpot1991> system>preferences>remote desktop
[08:13] <rhpot1991> allow others to view your desktop
[08:13] <rhpot1991> and allow others to control your desktop
[08:13] <rhpot1991> might want to toss a password on it too
[08:14] <tazgodx> hmm, i don't see that. but in MCC i set that to enable, and i set a password on it there
[08:14] <superm1> tazgodx, there was a bug in the beta regarding the password that got generated
[08:14] <superm1> did you generate it after or before beta?
[08:15] <tazgodx> after, but its not even asking me for a password, says the host isn't running a vnc server
[08:15] <superm1> restarted X?
[08:15] <tazgodx> yeah, i just restarted a little while ago
[08:16] <tazgodx> what viewer should i use to connect? any preferences?
[08:16] <superm1> xvnc4viewer?
[08:18] <tazgodx> well that worked
[08:18] <tazgodx> lol
[08:18] <tazgodx> guess my viewer just sucked
[08:43] <tazgodx> what is firefox's application path?
[08:45] <superm1> /usr/bin/firefox?
[08:45] <superm1> why?
[08:46] <tazgodx> i want to make that my default browser instead of mythbrowser
[08:46] <tazgodx> and that didn't work
[08:46] <superm1> o
[08:46] <superm1> that should work
[08:48] <tazgodx> yeah i thoght so too
[08:49] <superm1> you sure it didn't launch behind or something?
[08:49] <tazgodx> but it just gives me a huge blank screen now when i go into web
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[08:49] <superm1> etc
[08:52] <tazgodx> got it, :)
[08:52] <tazgodx> thanks
[09:01] <tazgodx> i wonder if there is a way to make firefox run fullscreen, at all times. no window border
[09:01] <tazgodx> ill look into that later
[09:05] <MitoTranin> tazgodx: if you hit F11 it goes into fulscreen mode... not sure how to make it default to that though...
[09:06] <tazgodx> yeah, i got taht. i wanna make the default fullscreen. but when its full screen as far as i can tell there is no way to close it. so i also need to find a way to close firfox when it is fullscreen
[09:08] <MitoTranin> alt-f4
[09:09] <tazgodx> haha slick answer. i just thought of that too
[09:10] <superm1> tazgodx, there are extentions for that
[09:10] <superm1> actually
[09:10] <superm1> and mouse gestures
[09:10] <superm1> so you can get the extension that makes it start full screen
[09:10] <superm1> and stay that way
[09:11] <superm1> and then setup a mouse gesture for down + right
[09:11] <superm1> to close ff
[09:11] <MitoTranin> http://www.mouserunner.com/FF_Tips_Full_Screen.html
[09:18] <tazgodx> this little project is turning out quite nice actually
[09:52] <tazgodx> sweet, i got it set up that esc. exits firefox :) ok time for bed now, thanks
[02:55] <pdragon> superm1: ping
[03:08] <Daviey> pdragon: i suspect he's in bed.. he has a v. late night
[03:11] <pdragon> ahh ok
[03:11] <pdragon> well, nothing too important. i can wait til he's back
[04:48] <solarbaby> Hello World..  Im your newest newbie
[04:49] <pdragon> hi
[04:49] <bendailey> solarbaby: hello
[04:49] <solarbaby> Awesome.. people are actually here and night just ghosts
[04:49] <solarbaby> Im downloading the iso right now..  Im looking forward to the fun
[04:50] <solarbaby> kinda surprised to see that there is no official support system in place just yet
[04:50] <directhex|work> i'll support you for $100 an hour. with real invoices!
[04:51] <solarbaby> Thats the Spirit!
[04:52] <solarbaby> I figure I could install MythDora which should be simple as pie, or AbuntuMyth, which just feels a little more fun to me
[04:53] <solarbaby> whole reason I want myth at this point is to run the python script on my xbox so I can interface with it
[04:53] <solarbaby> I hope the script works
[04:57] <solarbaby> anyone running myth with a black xbox?
[04:58] <pdragon> not i
[04:58] <solarbaby> it would be more correct to state that I would be only running a front end on the xbox
[04:59] <solarbaby> but im sure you knew that
[05:00] <popey> but as I have xbmc on there at the moment, and no backend, that will be some time later :)
[05:00] <solarbaby> xbmc is what I plan to run it from.. with a py script
[05:00] <popey> didnt know you could do that
[05:00] <solarbaby> I dunno if the script actually works but they have one
[05:01] <solarbaby> I'll try to find reference to it
[05:01] <foxbuntu> the only thing Myth should do to/with a MS product is destroy it
[05:01] <foxbuntu> :)
[05:01] <foxbuntu> but thats just me
[05:02] <foxbuntu> $foxbuntu
[05:02] <mythbot> foxbuntu is a mythbuntu dev, he is leet. tgm4883 wishes he was as leet as foxbuntu.
[05:02] <solarbaby> type xbmc mythtv.py into google and see what comes up
[05:02] <foxbuntu> solarbaby, what is it supposed to do? I know there has been alot of chatter about xbox stuff
[05:03] <solarbaby> the python script will allow you to schedule recordings with mythtv, and lookup shows you've already recorded with full descriptions.. and of course play the media..
[05:03] <solarbaby> I hope it allows you to stream live televsion
[05:04] <foxbuntu> solarbaby, I am not sure how that would work unless you are running the xbox linux
[05:04] <solarbaby> the XBMC crew is working on porting XBMC to linux, and I assume they are going to be getting mythtv all setup.. but they are far from finished
[05:05] <solarbaby> foxbuntu: thats the second option
[05:11] <solarbaby> looks like people have made this work with knopmyth but I see no mention with ubunto myth
[05:13] <pdragon> still pretty new compared to knopmyth. maybe try posting in the forums and see if anyone else is working on it?
[05:14] <solarbaby> I plan on it
[05:14] <solarbaby> I'll give this project a few days before going over to Knopmyth
[05:15] <solarbaby> maybe I'll just create disc images and go back and forth
[05:18] <pdragon> can always multi-boot
[05:18] <tgm4883> solarbaby, someone is, or did at one point.  His name is Xentium.  though im not sure on the spelling
[05:19] <tgm4883> foxbuntu, did you see the numbers from yesterday
[05:21] <foxbuntu> tgm4883, indeed I did
[05:21] <foxbuntu> very nice
[05:21] <tgm4883> very very nice
[05:45] <tgm4883> whoa, i think I know why we got so many hits yesterday, let me check something
[05:47] <tgm4883> nope, most from distrowatch
[05:47] <keescook> superm1: back, you were looking for me?
[05:48] <tgm4883> for anyone thats interested http://blog.wired.com/monkeybites/2007/10/mythbuntu-turni.html
[05:49] <pdragon> nice
[05:50] <tgm4883> we also showed up here, where we got many of our visits from yesterday http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20071008
[05:53] <tgm4883> and if anyone wants to digg mythbuntu stories http://digg.com/linux_unix/Mythbuntu_Turning_Ubuntu_Into_A_DVR_System
[05:58] <SpudDogg> does 7.10 include serial port IRBlaster support?
[06:02] <Daviey> believe so
[06:24] <superm1> hi keescook
[06:26] <keescook> hiya superm1
[06:27] <superm1> keescook, i was gonna follow up with you on that mail, and before you were going to commit anything ask if you had some ideas for the last lirc bug that was opened
[06:27] <superm1> regarding race conditions
[06:28] <keescook> superm1: ah, yeah, saw that over the weekend, I will get to it today.
[06:28] <foxbuntu> superm1, should I commit those fixes from last night for m-l-g?
[06:28] <superm1> foxbuntu, sure
[06:33] <foxbuntu> superm1, ok...0.15 is up
[06:33] <foxbuntu> rev 20
[06:59] <pdragon> superm1: still around?
[07:00] <superm1> yeah
[07:00] <superm1> whats up?
[07:01] <pdragon> found a work-around to get the channel icon script in the svn working
[07:01] <pdragon> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Channel_icons
[07:01] <pdragon> posted it in there
[07:01] <rhpot1991> pdragon you should put that in the ubuntu mythtv wiki too
[07:01] <superm1> ah cool.
[07:02] <rhpot1991> superm1 how'd the gutsy upgrade go?
[07:03] <rhpot1991> mine seemed to work out, frontend connected to the backend, then I went to sleep
[07:03] <superm1> rhpot1991, well all but one thing worked out
[07:03] <superm1> this is a pxe boot/nfs root setup
[07:03] <superm1> so you dont want network manager installed
[07:03] <superm1> you can't let it give up an ip address to manage by nm
[07:04] <superm1> so the feisty->gutsy upgrade was fine, but installing mythbuntu, i had to manually remove network manager
[07:04] <pdragon> too many wikis! https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MythBuntu
[07:05] <pdragon> can't really put that in the fiesty wiki tho cause fiesty doesn't have Myth.pm
[07:05] <rhpot1991> thats a bug that should get fixed though
[07:06] <superm1> if they get it fixed very quickly upstream, we can get it in still, but that will have to be a very fast fix
[07:09] <pdragon> superm1: is that channel_icons.pl script something that will be included with mythbuntu?
[07:09] <superm1> pdragon, it's not a priority at this point
[07:31] <pdragon> superm1: i'll try and write up a HowTo for the Mythbuntu wiki and if/when a Gutsy MythTV one comes out. If you see the bug I mentioned has been fixed, let me know and I'll update the entry
[07:34] <keescook> superm1: the 16_lirc-gpio.dpatch seems to contain a lirc.hwdb diff...
[07:35] <keescook> superm1: wait, is that the fix?
[07:36] <superm1> keescook, yeah
[07:36] <superm1> because we can't use lirc_gpio
[07:36] <superm1> the fallback is dev/input
[07:36] <keescook> okay, cool.
[07:37] <superm1> at some point a wiki write up needs to be put in place to explain how to  use dev/input though
[07:37] <superm1> because the maintainer scripts at this point don't have a way to query for devices
[07:37] <superm1> and figure out with /dev/input/eventX needs to be used
[07:39] <keescook> okay, looks fine to me.
[07:42] <keescook> superm1: hm, might be able to slip it into post-RC.  I'll try then.
[08:02] <superm1> keescook, okay cool good
[08:19] <laga> *yawn*
[08:20] <therethinker> I'm here
[08:20] <therethinker> I'm reading my feeds, then I'll get to work
[08:29] <therethinker> Okay
[08:29] <therethinker> Now to do the codec thing
[08:30] <therethinker2> $whack laga
[08:30] <mythbot> /me whacks laga
[08:31] <laga> $slap
[08:31] <mythbot> Sorry, I neither I or ubotu knew, but Wikipedia says: "A slap or 'smack' is a broad stroke made with the flat open hand, as opposed to a punch that is made with a closed fist." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slap
[08:31] <laga> $fist
[08:31] <therethinker2> $slap laga
[08:31] <mythbot> Sorry, I neither I or ubotu knew, but Wikipedia says: "A fist is a hand that has the fingers curled into the palm and the thumb retracted." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fist
[08:31] <mythbot> /me slaps laga
[08:31] <laga> $deflower therethinker2
[08:31] <mythbot> Neither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "please don't", sorry.
[08:32] <therethinker2> $infect laga
[08:32] <mythbot> /me takes control of laga's computer, formats the hard drive, and installs Windows ME on it.
[08:37] <therethinker2> Muhahaha
[08:44] <therethinker2> $daily laga
[08:44] <mythbot> /me turns laga into a frog.
[08:44] <therethinker2> Eh? closest thing to nice
[08:45] <laga> $daily therethinker2
[08:45] <mythbot> /me turns therethinker2 into a frog.
[08:45] <laga> boring
[08:48] <therethinker2> I know... I lacked inspiration
[08:48] <therethinker2> I plan to change it daily...
[08:50] <therethinker2> Like I'll remember..
[08:50] <therethinker2> Although, I need some good ones... they're all evil
[08:51] <therethinker2> Okay, can someone on a x64 test this?
[08:51] <therethinker2> I'll commit it
[08:51] <laga> the locale fix?
[08:51] <therethinker2> Yeah
[08:52] <laga> i have a x64, but i cant use it at the moment. monitor/keyboard is hooked up to a different box
[08:52] <therethinker2> Yeah, I'm on a x64 computer... but I use x86
[08:52] <therethinker2> The compatabilty sucks most the time
[08:53] <therethinker2> Oh wait, I thought this was the dev channel >_>
[08:53] <laga> well, it's not like you can try ubiquity on a real install. would have to do it in a VM, and virtualbox does not support 64 bit guests
[08:53] <therethinker2> I assumed VM wouldn't let you do a x64VM on a x86 host :P
[08:54] <superm1> vmware allows 64 bit guests though i thought
[08:59] <therethinker> superm1: well, I can't change the channel
[08:59] <therethinker> I have it set up where I have a cable line to my tuner
[08:59] <therethinker> I need to set the external change command, right?
[08:59] <superm1> you using an external changer?
[08:59] <therethinker> no
[08:59] <superm1> well then hit the appropriate channel change keys :)
[08:59] <therethinker> it doesn't work
[08:59] <laga> fix it
[08:59] <therethinker> It *says* it changed channels, but it didn't
[08:59] <therethinker> $slap laga
[08:59] <laga> anjd/or take a look at the log files
[08:59] <mythbot> /me slaps laga
[09:00] <therethinker> Hmm... logfiles... where? :P
[09:00] <laga>  /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log
[09:00] <laga> frontend: start it in a terminal
[09:03] <therethinker> yeah, hold on
[09:05] <therethinker> Nothing in there
[09:05] <therethinker> I started backend in a terminal, and  nothing interesting
[09:07] <laga> when you try to change channels?
[09:07] <therethinker> Yep
[09:07] <therethinker> It thinks its changing
[09:07] <laga> can you put the log in a pastebin?
[09:08] <therethinker> They'res nothing in the log. period
[09:08] <laga> in mythtv-setup, did you link your video source to your tv card's input?
[09:08] <therethinker> Yep
[09:08] <therethinker> Wait, no
[09:08] <therethinker> is the video source the XMLTV thing?
[09:08] <laga> just check "input connections"
[09:08] <laga> .
[09:08] <laga> <- reboot
[09:09] <therethinker> I'm opening up mythtv setup
[09:09] <therethinker> what?
[09:11] <therethinker> Yeah, I didn't have any video sources
[09:12] <therethinker> Wait, can I use the EIT?
[09:12] <laga> not with analog cable.
[09:12] <therethinker> Damn,
[09:12] <therethinker> oh well
[09:13] <therethinker> I added it, and as I'm doing the scan, I'm getting all the channels now :-)
[09:13] <therethinker> Rather than just 2-13 :D
[09:14] <therethinker> Its skipping a few, but nothing important...
[09:15] <therethinker> Wait, still no
[09:15] <therethinker> still stuck, still B/w