=== pike_ [n=happy@74-140-134-102.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #xubuntu === NullName [n=user666@c-71-236-144-71.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has left #xubuntu [] === NullName [n=user666@c-71-236-144-71.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:38] Anyone know why I cant hear the sound on rm movie files? I'm using realplayer for linux and it isnt working === DrgnKhan [n=pocketir@auth5-46.uwaterloo.ca] has joined #xubuntu === DARKGuy [n=DARKGuy@201.208.217.177] has left #xubuntu ["Saliendo"] [01:45] NullName: id try mplayer perhaps [01:57] mayhaps === Kilroo [n=Kilroo@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === Cygnet [n=cassie@d47-69-96-223.try.wideopenwest.com] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] === DrgnKhan [n=pocketir@auth5-46.uwaterloo.ca] has left #xubuntu [] === YakSolo [n=john@c-71-229-76-196.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === YakSolo [n=john@c-71-229-76-196.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has left #xubuntu [] === mindframe_ [n=mindfram@ip72-207-244-33.br.br.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu === clouder [n=clouder@cpe-24-174-204-170.elp.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === SpiffyBalak [n=SpiffyBa@c-68-41-41-136.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === SpiffyBalak [n=SpiffyBa@c-68-41-41-136.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has left #xubuntu ["Tentacruel...the] === clouder [n=clouder@cpe-24-174-204-170.elp.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === waspdigger [n=waspdigg@202.86.204.197] has joined #xubuntu === NullName [n=user666@c-71-236-144-71.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has left #xubuntu [] === oshiii-_^ [n=h1@unaffiliated/oshiii/x-3278] has joined #xubuntu === Pici [n=Pici@unaffiliated/pici] has joined #xubuntu === Zach_07 [n=zach@71-217-153-114.hlna.qwest.net] has joined #xUbuntu [02:52] Hmm.. It seems there is another project going by the Xubuntu name. [02:53] Here is my current situation: I want to access a file called wine.sh located at my e:\ and I want to access it with Xubuntu, So does anyone know how to do this? === oshiii-_^ [n=h1@unaffiliated/oshiii/x-3278] has joined #xubuntu [02:56] ?? [02:56] Zach_07, /media [02:56] whats that mean? [02:56] the / is root [02:57] and media is media directory [02:57] in there you find flash drives [02:57] so how can I access e:\ in Xubuntu? [02:57] errr [02:57] for xbox [02:57] that is [02:57] is it on harddrive? [02:57] yes my hd is split into c d e f g === oshiii-_^ [n=h1@unaffiliated/oshiii/x-3278] has joined #xubuntu [02:58] is it fat32 ? [02:58] no fatx( xbox's fat32) [02:58] can you even have that many partitions? [02:58] yes [02:58] i always thought limit was 4 [02:58] not because microsofts fatx supports that [02:58] well it should be in /media [02:58] xbox is connected to pc? [02:58] ok Ill try that [02:58] no [02:59] I modded my xbox [02:59] and added 120gb hd [02:59] xubuntu running on xbox? [02:59] Is Xubuntu the same as this xUbuntu? [02:59] Yes by DVD [02:59] heh [02:59] http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/XUbuntu ?? is the site that Zach_07 linked me in #ubuntu [02:59] Zach_07, if its not in media [02:59] Ya thats for xbox Ubuntu [02:59] you need not mount it [02:59] need to === oshiii-_^ [n=h1@unaffiliated/oshiii/x-3278] has joined #xubuntu [03:00] Pici: xUbuntu is for xbox and Xubuntu is for pc [03:00] Zach_07: Well thats confusing. [03:00] I know [03:01] Catoptromancy: what do I need to do? [03:01] im not quite sure [03:01] but look ib /media first [03:01] ok Ill check it out now [03:01] it should lsit all your active partitions [03:01] if its not there you need to mount it [03:02] or edit fstab [03:03] ok to boot up xUbuntu it will take a few minutes because Im booting by DVD disc which is slow === The-Kernel [n=The-Kern@unaffiliated/the-kernel] has joined #xubuntu === Cat [n=Cat@fl-71-1-226-101.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu === Cat is now known as Catoptromancy === MatBoy [n=Matt@wiljewelwetenhe.xs4all.nl] has joined #xubuntu [03:08] Catoptromancy: When I type /media in the terminal it says command not found [03:08] cd .. [03:08] cd .. [03:08] cd /media [03:09] huh, funny it says command not found for cd.. [03:09] uh [03:09] this must be a screwed up linux [03:09] cd (space) .. [03:09] it works [03:09] but [03:09] displays nothing [03:10] dir [03:10] works [03:10] use thnar [03:10] thunar [03:10] so dir /media? [03:10] its alot easier [03:10] Is thunar on the xUbuntu? [03:10] its the file manager [03:10] ok Ill look right now [03:11] I can't find thunar but I see Xfce file-manager [03:12] sure use that [03:12] ok [03:13] You should learn some basics if your going to use Linux [03:13] I know [03:13] ok, so Im at Xfce file manager [03:14] find a folder called media [03:14] ok === oshiii-_^ [n=h1@unaffiliated/oshiii/x-3278] has joined #xubuntu [03:15] I found /media/cdrom /media/usb0 /media/usb2 [03:15] so look for your file [03:16] Well, it only detects my dvd files and not hd... what a piece of crap software. Im going to switch my linux to a different xbox linux [03:17] you need to mount [03:18] xubuntu is probably the easiest to use [03:18] is there an irc channel for xboxubuntu? [03:19] yes this is it [03:19] or if you wait around, someone else can help [03:19] only other is xbox linux channel [03:19] thats fine [03:19] maybe try that [03:19] heh [03:19] linux is generally the same [03:19] with mounting [03:20] It seems so, by the way I actually have used suse linux live before and I could get around [03:20] xbox linux channel should be alot more help [03:20] Well usually no one answers when you ask a question, probably because their snobbs [03:20] actually most people here are idle [03:21] or dont know [03:21] Why what are they doing [03:21] sitting in channel 24/7 [03:21] oh [03:21] they do other things too heh [03:21] yea of course [03:21] if you ask a question you might need to wait a long while [03:22] and re-ask later [03:22] Zach_07: are you sure you're in the right channel? the wiki explains that Xubuntu (what this channel is for) is something different than the xbox thing [03:22] the xubuntu this channel is about doesn't have drive names [03:22] Well this channel is probably not for the xbox version: PIKI [03:22] like e:\ and such [03:23] e:\ isnt labelled e: in linux [03:23] well it could be [03:23] nope [03:23] someone could setup fstab to name them that [03:23] heh [03:23] if they like pain ;) [03:23] ok my xbox hardrive boots by evox os, it has c:, D:, E:, G: partitions on it [03:23] I need a shell account of which I can use an IRC client [03:24] Zach_07: yeah, I have no idea what that means [03:24] oh ok [03:24] you probably want to speak with xbox linux folks :) [03:24] xbox linux channel would be much more helpful [03:24] ok...so wheres the channel? [03:24] google [03:25] Im tired of using google [03:25] I'd never even heard of this xbox ubuntu before tonight ;) [03:25] oh well now you know [03:27] THANKS PPL WHO HELPED ME :) :) :) [03:27] the wiki says there are mailing lists for support === Zach_07 [n=zach@71-217-153-114.hlna.qwest.net] has left #xUbuntu [] === mode/#xubuntu [+o gnomefreak] by ChanServ === mode/#xubuntu [+b *!*n=wii@*.abo.wanadoo.fr] by gnomefreak === mode/#xubuntu [-o gnomefreak] by ChanServ === The-Kernel [n=The-Kern@unaffiliated/the-kernel] has joined #xubuntu === Pici [n=Pici@unaffiliated/pici] has left #xubuntu [] === neozen [n=neozen@c-67-176-151-148.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === Pres-Gas [n=Pres-Gas@74-130-18-146.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #xubuntu === Pres-Gas [n=Pres-Gas@74-130-18-146.dhcp.insightbb.com] has left #xubuntu [] === maxamillion [n=adam@166.128.33.130] has joined #xubuntu === luisbg [n=d33p@ubuntu/member/luisbg] has joined #xubuntu === waspdigger [n=waspdigg@202.86.204.197] has joined #xubuntu === waspdigger [n=waspdigg@202.86.204.197] has joined #xubuntu === jet65 [n=chatzill@24-117-93-140.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:11] I'm about to install Xubuntu from a LiveCD (Alternate install). Before I do that, is there anything that I'll need for installation so I don't have to boot back and forth to get some kind of information? I already know what I'll do for partitioning, but I don't know what else I need to know. [05:11] not that I can think of [05:11] plus you can browse the net from the livecd [05:11] while its installing [05:11] :) [05:12] OK, thanks. [05:12] How long does typical install take? [05:12] hm. dunno, its been ages for me [05:12] say half an hour if youre thinking about it? [05:12] but I really don't remember [05:13] OK, well as long as it's under an hour. I guess I'm gonna get started on it, thanks very much for the help :) [05:13] under an hour shouldn't be a problem [05:13] . [05:13] o/ bie then [05:13] :/ === luisbg [n=d33p@ubuntu/member/luisbg] has joined #xubuntu === ICXCNIKA [i=ICXCNIKA@c-76-30-70-223.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === The-Kernel [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.204.115.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu === luisbg [n=d33p@ubuntu/member/luisbg] has joined #xubuntu === magic_ninja [n=asdfsdf@ip68-103-20-85.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu === zenrox [i=zenrox@pool-71-115-208-222.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === oshiii-_^ [n=h1@unaffiliated/oshiii/x-3278] has joined #xubuntu === waspdigger [n=waspdigg@202.86.204.197] has joined #xubuntu === hyper__ch [n=hyper@215-202.62-81.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #xubuntu === magic_ninja [n=asdfsdf@ip68-103-20-85.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu === wbadger [n=wbadger@bzq-88-153-109-247.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #xubuntu === elbing [n=elbing@62.36.225.65] has joined #xubuntu === varka [n=varkatop@p54A5703E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === snax [n=brianhk@c-71-227-191-62.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [08:27] can anyone explain why xubuntu gutsy depends on practically all of gnome === Dr`Maison [n=fred@chy02-1-88-176-124-69.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #xubuntu === Joakim_ [n=leho@213-35-169-242-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #xubuntu [08:33] snax: yes of course, here is your explanation: it doesn't [08:34] installing xubuntu-desktop pulls in significant portions of gnome [08:34] snax: like? [08:35] gnome-panel, gnome-games, gnome-utils, gnome-applets [08:35] and tomboy, which in turn pulls in all of mono [08:36] snax: no, these are definitely not in xubuntu [08:36] snax: I have a fresh install here [08:36] tell that to aptitude [08:36] snax: well, learn to use it properly [08:37] apt-get is also keen installing those packages [08:37] do I need to disable installing suggested packages? [08:39] snax: my guess is that it installs some package that has two alternatives, and because you already have (some) ubuntu installation, it picks the alternative wrong, pulling in some gnome app [08:40] hmm === thhp [n=thhp@77-97-135-102.cable.ubr12.brad.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu [08:50] hi, can anyone help me with my xubuntu desktop? [08:51] !anyone [08:51] A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? [08:53] Good point... my issue is that XFCE doesn't retain the "manage desktop" setting across logins [08:53] I installed xubuntu from Ubuntu via "apt-get install xubuntu-desktop", btw [08:54] What I get at login is my XFCE desktop, briefly, and then my old gnome one [08:54] it appears Nautilus is autorunning and trampling the XFCE settings [08:56] FWIW, I have a fuller writeup here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3501310#post3501310 [08:57] I'm hoping someone on this channel would be able to give me some suggestions! === ablomen [n=ablomen@a82-92-226-8.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #xubuntu [09:01] thhp: seems like you got nautilus saved with your session [09:01] thhp: just kill it and save session, it should go away [09:02] thhp: or you can clear the sessions altogether by removing all files from ~/.cache/sessions/ [09:02] TheSheep: how should I save the session? I have 'save session on logout' set, but this does no good. Is there an explicit command I can run? [09:02] thhp: no, that checkbox is the only way I know [09:04] @TheSheep Thanks, I'll try clearing the cache === waspdigger [n=waspdigg@202.86.204.197] has joined #xubuntu === waspdigger [n=waspdigg@202.86.204.197] has joined #xubuntu === luisbg [n=d33p@ubuntu/member/luisbg] has joined #xubuntu === Catoptromancy [n=cat@fl-71-1-226-101.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu === The-Kernel [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.204.115.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu === Catoptromancy [n=cat@fl-71-1-226-101.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu === Naughtyboy [n=Naughtyb@h60n8c1o968.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #xubuntu === waspdigger [n=waspdigg@202.86.204.197] has joined #xubuntu === Catoptromancy [n=catw@fl-71-1-226-101.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu === josh__ [n=helen@60.20.62.52] has joined #xubuntu === josh__ is now known as joshyu [10:28] hi,everyone === oshiii-_^ [n=h1@unaffiliated/oshiii/x-3278] has joined #xubuntu === cjae_ [n=cjae@64-110-250-84.msjw.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined #xubuntu === FFighter [n=ffighter@189.7.180.93] has joined #xubuntu === Knightlust [n=dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #xubuntu [11:07] night night === oshiii-_^ [n=h1@unaffiliated/oshiii/x-3278] has left #xubuntu [] === grazie [n=grazie@88-110-179-34.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #xubuntu === oshiii-_^ [n=h1@unaffiliated/oshiii/x-3278] has joined #xubuntu === waspdigger [n=waspdigg@202.86.204.197] has joined #xubuntu === grazie [n=grazie@88-110-179-34.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #xubuntu === luisbg [n=d33p@ubuntu/member/luisbg] has joined #xubuntu === oshiii-_^ [n=h1@unaffiliated/oshiii/x-3278] has joined #xubuntu === Knightlust [n=dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #xubuntu === helen [n=helen@60.20.62.52] has joined #xubuntu [01:21] hi,smop [01:21] hi,everyone === helen is now known as joshyu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #xubuntu === ablomen [n=ablomen@unaffiliated/ablomen] has joined #xubuntu === grazie [n=grazie@88-110-179-34.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #xubuntu === noah1989 [n=noah@p54B4F505.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:53] hi@all [01:59] hi, which application is responsible for displaying the buttons when turning off the computer? [02:00] <_trine> xfce4-panel [02:01] hm.. [02:01] my problem is - they are in english, the system language is german, though. [02:01] <_trine> alt+f2 then type xfce4-panel [02:02] <_trine> well I'm a linux learner# [02:02] hm. [02:02] <_trine> that's about all I know about it [02:02] ^^ === waspdigger [n=waspdigg@202.86.204.197] has joined #xubuntu === Pres-Gas [n=Pres-Gas@74-130-18-146.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #xubuntu === heguru [n=hubuntu@87.109.3.190] has joined #xubuntu === heguru [n=hubuntu@87.109.3.190] has left #xubuntu [] === student002 [n=student@vpn.conroeisd.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:23] hey, I'm trying to install gnome-desktop-environment but it lists all these dependencies and says "..but it is not installable" and at the end it says E: Broken Packages === arttu [n=kali@hoasb-ff0edd00-85.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #xubuntu [02:25] hm.. is xubuntu supposed to run a gnome environment? [02:25] I dunno, what is it supposed to run? [02:25] xfce4 [02:26] that's why it's xubuntu [02:26] oh so should I try apt-get install xfce4? [02:26] hm? [02:26] Make sure to update your packages as well [02:26] what is your specific problem? [02:26] whenever I try to install anything [02:26] You should be able to install whatever envoronment with whatever *buntu distro. [02:27] it says "depends:..."but it is not installable [02:27] and at the end it says E: broken packages [02:27] did you update the package list? [02:27] apt-get update? [02:28] dunno, maybe? [02:28] I tried that..it does all this stuff then it says "error: http://download.tuxfamil.org feisty release: the following signature couldn't be verified because the public key is not available [02:28] i'm not using ubuntu myself, but installed it on my parent's machine (very old computer) [02:29] W: you may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems" [02:29] lol but that's what I ran [02:29] ^^ [02:31] .. [02:32] okay I removed the tuxofamily repo from sources.list [02:32] Another thing is that third party repos can occasionally break things [02:33] Ran apt-get update again and it does some stuff and says at the end "fetched 4B in 3s, Reading package lists...done" === Joakim [n=leho@217-159-182-77-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #xubuntu [02:33] It could explain the messages you are getting....unresolved dependencies and whatnot. [02:33] Pres-Gas, so how do I repair them? [02:33] well, if you have removed the repo, you could try "apt-get dist-upgrade", student002. [02:34] Since you have already apt-get update-ed [02:35] k 1 of the packages it wants to upgrade is mozilla-thunderbird [02:35] and it says 403 access forbidden E: unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing [02:36] gonna try to run it again with --fix-missing [02:37] Pres-Gas, that worked..it upgraded 3 packages..But I still get that broken packages message when I try to install xfce4 [02:39] So, you are running reg ubuntu now? [02:40] I tried 'apt-get install xfdesktop4' but it gives me an error saying "E: Package xfdesktop4 has no installation candidate" [02:40] I've been running xubuntu [02:43] any ideas? === maxamillion [n=adam@ss-5-55.shsu.edu] has joined #xubuntu === TABASCO [n=TABASCO9@ip-90-187-127-77.web.vodafone.de] has joined #xubuntu [02:47] Hello again [02:48] Maybe you remember I asked yesterday about the system requirements of Xubuntu [02:48] anyone of you said it is possible to install it on a 2gb hd [02:49] but now the installer aborts and if you configure the partitions manually he says that he needs 2gb diskspace for the root-partition [02:49] and 256 mb for the swap [02:49] what can I do now? [02:51] I'd say 2G was a bit tight for a standard install. 2.5G + swap minimum (for feisty) in my opinion. Which install cd do you have? [02:52] gutsy gibbon beta [02:53] To install Xubuntu, you need 1.5 GB of free space on your hard disk. [02:53] this is what the xubuntu page says [02:53] well wait a minute [02:54] how can I find out which version of xubuntu I actually use? [02:55] well it's it not wrong for older distros, but feisty (and I think gutsy too) need a bit more space. That figure gives you no room to do updates [02:55] what about dapper? [02:55] because it's a laptop, and I have only that 2 gigabyte disk [02:56] dell is going to ship a bigger one but for the moment I have only that small.. [02:56] TABASCO: you asked how much it takes after install, and I said 'about 2GB' [02:56] TABASCO: it needs some free space to operate, obviously [02:57] TABASCO, for version one way > cat /etc/issue [02:57] I asked about if I can install it on a 2 gb disk :) [02:57] TABASCO: you can do the server install (which will install the base system only) and then install xfce and whatever applications you need [02:57] mhm, yes.. [02:57] TABASCO: then I didn't understand you, I'm sorry [02:57] no problem :) [02:58] TABASCO: I think you can only do the server install with the alternate cd [02:58] mhm, that is going to be a bit complicated.. [02:58] well, it's not me who is going to install it but a friend.. [02:59] does anyone knows about dapper? [02:59] can I install xubuntu on a 2gb disk with dapper? [02:59] TABASCO: it doesn't grow that much from version to version [02:59] TABASCO: I'd say it's about the same, maybe several hundreds MB less [03:00] TheSheep: Well, for which version are the system requirements on the website? [03:00] TABASCO: for the current stable, in this case feisty [03:01] TheSheep: But the feisty installer says that the root partition requires 2 gigabytes [03:02] TABASCO: use the manual partitioning [03:02] TABASCO: it should fit [03:03] heh [03:04] only 2 people talking, not really need to highlight every line [03:05] Catoptromancy: habit [03:05] hehe === maxamillion does it too === maxamillion would do it in jabber conversations if the tab completion functionality was there ... but that would be horribly redundant [03:07] explicit is better than implicit [03:11] TheSheep: i know this is horribly off topic but i was poking around moin last night and i was wondering how often the devs actually implement the feature requests? [03:13] maxamillion: once per feature, usually === TABASCO [n=TABASCO9@ip-90-187-127-77.web.vodafone.de] has left #xubuntu ["Kopete] [03:14] maxamillion: --> #moin === ancient1 [n=ancient1@87.68.3.135.cable.012.net.il] has joined #xubuntu [03:35] hi . which TVtuner app is best for xubuntu ? === oshiii-_^ [n=h1@unaffiliated/oshiii/x-3278] has joined #xubuntu [03:36] everyone's asleep [03:37] perhaps i should too [03:37] TVTime? [03:37] are you asking ? [03:37] no...suggesting === Kilroo [n=Kilroo@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === wyrd [n=alex@82-68-87-42.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu === ancient1_ [n=ancient1@84.94.134.98.cable.012.net.il] has joined #xubuntu [03:53] grazie, thx ! . my PC froze === waspdigger [n=waspdigg@202.86.204.197] has joined #xubuntu === RatThing [n=user@79-75-180-247.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #xubuntu [04:05] you're welcome! === RatThing [n=user@79-75-180-247.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has left #xubuntu ["ERC] === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #xubuntu === cjae_ [n=cjae@64-110-250-84.msjw.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined #xubuntu === mindframe- [n=mindfram@69.2.38.187] has joined #xubuntu === LifeDevil [n=lifedevi@213.190.167.213] has joined #xubuntu === Ben_Cs [n=Ben@212.150.114.161] has joined #xubuntu === waspdigger [n=waspdigg@202.86.204.197] has joined #xubuntu [04:33] hello. well after lots of headache it figures the internet problems i had were caused because a bad dsl router. so i swapped it for a newer one and no i'm back to xubuntu (been using pc-bsd for several days). [04:34] upgrading to gutsy is done by: gksu "update-manager -c" ,right? === RatThing [n=user@79-75-180-247.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #xubuntu === neozen [n=neozen@65.91.254.98] has joined #xubuntu === zeroflag [n=zeroflag@unaffiliated/zeroflag] has joined #xubuntu [04:41] hey. [04:43] is there any single package in (x)ubuntu that installs xfce(auto-startup and the common desktop items including login manager) AND a VNC server that allows reusable sessions/access to real xfce sessions? [04:44] because I installed xubuntu-desktop (through aptitude) but xfce won't start and no matter what I do I get strange "X not running" and unidentifyable error messages... === LifeDevil [n=lifedevi@213.190.167.213] has left #xubuntu [] === luisbg [n=d33p@ubuntu/member/luisbg] has joined #xubuntu [04:56] lol @ http://xkcd.com/149/ === Pres-Gas [n=Pres-Gas@74-130-18-146.dhcp.insightbb.com] has left #xubuntu [] === Ben_Cs [n=Ben@212.150.114.161] has joined #xubuntu [05:11] hi === benny___ [n=Ben@212.150.114.161] has joined #xubuntu === Joakim [n=leho@217-159-182-77-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #xubuntu === Arkh [n=Arkh@62.152.122.140] has joined #xubuntu === vistakiller [n=spiros@ppp262-32.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #xubuntu === arttu [n=kali@hoasb-ff0edd00-85.dhcp.inet.fi] has left #xubuntu [] === elfez [n=dave@cpc3-cmbg5-0-0-cust4.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has joined #xubuntu [05:49] any known showstoppers lurking around when upgrading from feisty -> gutsy? === Ben_Cs [n=Ben@212.150.114.161] has joined #xubuntu === tuxutug [n=daniel@dsl16-216.express.oricom.ca] has joined #xubuntu [06:01] salut [06:17] elfez: only one [06:17] !beta | elfez [06:17] elfez: Gutsy Gibbon (7.10) *BETA* information and release notes can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon/Beta - If you regularly update, then you're running the latest version - ISOs and Torrents at http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/gutsy/ - It is development software and as such unstable, support ONLY in #ubuntu+1 [06:17] elfez: ehm, I mean "use only at your own risk" [06:17] TheSheep: indeed - thanks :) === NullName [n=user666@c-71-236-144-71.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:23] hey there === elfez [n=dave@cpc3-cmbg5-0-0-cust4.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] === fir3 [n=fir3@p57B57101.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:27] hi [06:28] could someone tell me if the package hal-device-manager is installed out-of-the-box on xubuntu? === d33p__ [n=d33p@41.145.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #xubuntu [06:37] fir3: I don't have it [06:37] fir3: but it's not a clean install -- I was upgradding since dapper [06:38] k, the cdrom drive appeared without installing it in thunar anyway :) [06:39] i just switched from dapper to etch on my old p2 350 pc, it runs much faster now === waspdigger [n=waspdigg@202.86.204.197] has joined #xubuntu [06:57] cya === OwdGitRon [n=ron@88-111-187-86.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #xubuntu === Catoptromancy [n=cat@fl-71-1-226-101.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu === Ben_Cs [n=Ben@212.150.114.161] has joined #xubuntu === MatBoy [n=Matt@wiljewelwetenhe.xs4all.nl] has joined #xubuntu === Dr`Maison [n=fred@chy02-1-88-176-124-69.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #xubuntu === DM| [n=dm@cpe-24-160-182-28.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === winkerbean [n=chatzill@c-68-32-23-83.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:20] hey guys trying to get XDM running , ive installed xubuntu-desktop what else do i need to do [07:22] anyone? [07:24] DM|: xubuntu uses gdm... [07:24] hmm [07:24] whats XDM then [07:25] !info xdm [07:25] xdm: X display manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.0.5-2 (feisty), package size 165 kB, installed size 764 kB [07:25] werd [07:26] DM|: xdm is pretty generic, not associated with any toolkit or desktop environment [07:26] DM|: gdm is gtk-based, I think [07:26] im using freenx to run through a remote machine , and its only allowing gnome to run even tho i can log into xfce when i remote in [07:27] DM|: try editing your .dmrc === junkeR [n=chatzill@host-114-39-111-24.midco.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:28] TheSheep will do gimme a sec [07:28] hey, where can I find info for the changes that will be coming in 7.10 [07:29] !gutsy [07:29] Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information [07:29] JunkeR http://tech.tolero.org/blog/en/linux/review-ubuntu-710-gutsy-features-changes [07:29] but does it list the changes for xubuntu? [07:30] TheSheep lol it says XFCE but yet freenx loads gnome instead [07:31] DM|: .xsession ? [07:31] sec [07:31] DM|: finally, there might be a config in freenx for that [07:32] im trying the vnc option, its taking forever tho [07:36] TheSheep no cigar [07:37] DM|: maybe try putting 'xfce4-session' to your .xsession? [07:37] why not using another vnc client? [07:37] etc/X11/Xsession? [07:38] hyper__ch i wanted a GUI and vncviewer wouldnt work for me for some reason [07:38] TheSheep where is my .xsession i need to edit? [07:38] well, I used krfb - that just works fine [07:38] DM|: in your ~ [07:39] DM|: you might have to reate it [07:39] create === TheSheep curses his keyboard. [07:39] yeah its not there, what should i put in the file [07:39] DM|: just 'xfce4-session' (without the quotes) and an empty line [07:40] TheSheep: will an upgrade to gutsy cause any problems with dm-crypt/luks? [07:40] hyper__ch: never tried [07:41] thesheep lol still loads gnome [07:42] TheSheep: in feisty I had to load first some kernel modules [07:42] DM|: I give up [07:42] TheSheep got it... you start it with the custom command startxcfe4 [07:43] We have an internal (wired) network and external (wireless) internet access. Anybody know how I can use both at the same time? [07:43] DM|: that also starts X [07:43] winkerbean: just set the default gateway to the wireless and a route for the internal network to the internal gateway [07:44] TheSheep aye, but it works now :) im in XFCE [07:44] DM|: congrats, you did it :) [07:45] TheSheep im new to XFCE , whats the command to start the Xterminal ? === salox [n=salox@79.113.138.15] has joined #xubuntu [07:45] just xterminal? [07:45] DM|: terminal [07:45] DM|: or xfce4-terminal === salox [n=salox@79.113.138.15] has left #xubuntu ["Konversation] === d33p__ [n=d33p@119.144.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #xubuntu [07:50] TheSheep: thanx, that worked! [07:51] TheSheep thanks for your help, im sure ill be bugging u again in a min [07:54] winkerbean: great! [07:55] TheSheep how do you change the time in Xfce? its wrong, saying 9 am === mrfm [n=mrfm___@200.26.114.179] has joined #xubuntu === T` [n=total@pdpc/supporter/student/T] has joined #xubuntu [07:59] DM|: system -> date and time === mrfm [n=mrfm___@200.26.114.179] has left #xubuntu ["Saliendo"] [07:59] TheSheep its not there :( [07:59] nm [08:00] got it , im blind [08:01] gonna put it in the case now, thanks for all the help [08:01] DM|: no problem, do come back :) === archangelpetro [n=bleh@85.92.164.88] has joined #xubuntu === RatThing [n=user@79-75-180-247.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has left #xubuntu ["ERC] [08:14] TheSheep: I stand corrected (now I'm back online). I had both connections for a few minutes, but then lost the external connection. === vinze [n=vinze@a80-126-159-235.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #xubuntu === psyhhix [n=psyhhix@217-159-252-53-dsl.prn.estpak.ee] has joined #xubuntu [08:18] hei [08:18] Hey psyhhix [08:18] how do i get near to my other pc via ip address? i cant find a place where to put it :F [08:18] What do you mean: "near to my other pc via ip address"? [08:19] i have other pc with xp on local network [08:19] with kde no problem [08:19] but im using first time xfce :D [08:19] Oww... Not my area, sorry :( [08:19] np :) [08:25] winkerbean: that's very weird [08:26] winkerbean: what does 'ip route' say? [08:26] 192.168.2.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.2.102 [08:26] 192.168.1.0/24 dev wlan0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.1.105 [08:26] 169.254.0.0/16 dev wlan0 scope link metric 1000 [08:26] default via 192.168.1.1 dev wlan0 [08:27] Now, I seem ok. But then I seemed ok before and lost the outside world. [08:27] winkerbean: you use static ips or dhcp? [08:28] TheSheep: dhcp for outside, static for inside [08:28] winkerbean: maybe it's just the signal power of your wireless? [08:28] winkerbean: or dhcp timed out? [08:28] TheSheep: Could be either, I suppose. [08:28] or both :) [08:28] hey you guys.....if I used ssh to connect to a box on my LAN and downloaded a torrent, through ssh. Would this hide that i'm downloading a torrent from my isp?....what if I also renamed the file to a "schoolwork.zip" [08:29] TheSheep: Heh. Thanx just the same. [08:29] the reason being with ssh that it is encrypted [08:30] NullName: it hides the fact that you're transmitting the file itself, but downloading the *content* to which that file points is an entirely different thing [08:30] NullName: try reading about the torrent protocol on wikipedia, for example [08:32] thanks [08:33] yea I'm reading about ssh on wikipedia...and to my understanding it hides it...so I have to also encrypt the file that it points to? [08:34] reading about torrent will help me understand how the content is stored? [08:34] I mean I think I understand how torrents work. [08:35] NullName: admins don't usually punish copying of the toreent files themselves, they detect downloading of the content via the torrent protocol [08:37] but that can't detect that I'm using the torrent protocol if I'm using ssh on the lan? [08:38] my other computer has the torrent client and is recieiving the file. I'm just controlling the torrent client. [08:38] then later I will transfer the file to my box [08:38] using scp [08:38] NullName: he can detect it where your ssh tunnel ends [08:38] darn [08:39] Maybe I'm crazy...but wikipedia doestn seem to have an entry for "torrent" [08:39] just b=ittorrent clients [08:39] nevermind [08:39] they have bittorrent protocl [08:39] *protocol === Cursed_6_ds [n=Shoaibi@mbl-99-53-155.dsl.net.pk] has joined #xubuntu [08:53] how can i connect to my pc (win xp) with xfce? theres a switch between, with kde works fine, but xfce i cant [08:53] what do you mean by "connect"? [08:53] you want to control you winxp PC? [08:53] for full control I would use "vnc" [08:53] i want to access to my shared folder [08:54]