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=== Topic for #edubuntu: Order: http://shipit.edubuntu.org || Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu || http://www.edubuntu.org | Wiki: http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuWiki | MEETING: every Wednesday see http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuMeetingAgenda | feisty (7.04) is released, see http://www.edubuntu.org/Download | please help tesing gutsy (7.10) beta https://iso.qa.stgraber.org/qatracker/build/Edubuntu
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stgraberogra: heh, this compression progressbar just rocks !!! :)12:32
ograheh12:32
ograwell, i didnt manage to get the build bar going :/12:32
ograits still the sucky "two step" bar12:33
stgraberhaving the compression one and no more log flood is already a huge improvment12:33
ograyeah, indeed12:33
ograthe log is kept though, just not in the main syslog12:33
stgraberok, install done here let's test it12:34
stgraberogra: LTSP seems to work just fine too (testing on VirtualBox, will test on real HW tonight)12:39
ogracool12:39
ogramy install is still running ... my system is just to busy for speedy vbox stuff12:40
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tsurcJust finished off our new shinny, very shiny gutsy edubuntu server + squid + dansguardian + transparent proxying, running off one box... box.01:09
tsurcWhere can I write the instructions of 3 or 4 lines needed to set it up?01:11
ogracreate a page on the wiki01:11
ograEdubuntuProxySetup or so01:11
ograwe can link it from the edubuntu FAQ or even pull it in the next handbook ;)01:12
tsurcI really do love you guys, gutsy rocks and with one iptables line transparent proxying works like an absolute dream01:12
ogra:)01:13
tsurcI'll be moving the box down to our boarding house later. any problems I'll let you know. If anyone is going to give it a really good beasting its the ids in the boarding house.01:14
tsurc^kids01:14
tsurcOooo lunch time. brb01:15
Kamping_Kaisertsurc, thats a good combo you have there, difference for me is i have a seperate gateway, running dapper :)01:15
tsurcyeh in school we have separate boxes. but the boarding house is a special case. We have one server, very limited space and about 15 clients. So it has to be all be rolled onto one server01:17
Kamping_Kaisermonitoring the dansguardian logs can be invaluable too01:18
Kamping_Kaiserhm... *goes to check his*01:18
tsurcmy next big hitter will be a vpn from that site so I can remotely admin it. Thats one hell of a win win, esp with "Ofsted"01:19
Kamping_Kaisertsurc, ssh?01:19
tsurccheck mine every two days :-)01:19
Kamping_Kaisermy proxy is at a community group  -when i went there every week i checked then, atm i havent checked for amonth becaues i've been otherwise engaged01:20
tsurcyeh, but I've always fancied playing with vpns. For my own academic purposes if nothing else01:20
Kamping_Kaiseropenvpn is decent01:20
tsurccool I'll check it out..... if I ever get the time.01:21
Kamping_Kaiserhm... some interesting searches been done while i've been absent.01:22
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tsurcRight really must go get lunch. I think I'm giving birth to an alien, at least thats what it sound like. Grummble Grummble ;) I'll leave you too your fun01:23
Kamping_Kaisertsurc, have you tried per user logging of sites/dns lookups or filtering per user?01:23
Kamping_Kaiserlol01:23
Kamping_Kaisercatch you later mate01:23
tsurcident?01:23
Kamping_Kaiseron the gateway01:23
Kamping_Kaisereg with dans/squid/iptables01:23
Kamping_Kaisernm, i wont hold you from lunch :)01:23
tsurcplayed with identd squid and dansguardian, never really got it working yet. Laters ;)01:24
Kamping_Kaiserlater :)01:24
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pips1no edubuntu meeting today?01:54
ograi'll try to give a short dev status overview or so tonight01:56
pips1ok01:56
ograbut rich is travelling and i'm busy with the last bits before release01:56
ograso i'll try to keep it as short as i can01:56
pips1ic, ok01:56
pips1is your info on launchpad more or less up to date? blueprints & bugs ?01:58
ogranope01:58
pips1never mind01:59
pips1in the meeting logs, I read that you were struggling with a major bug that prevents the proper installation or smth... did you manage to fix it?02:00
ograall RC bugs should be sorted ... specs are not up to date because most of them were simply not properly handled in the beginning02:00
ograi bumped the ones i could to implemented02:00
pips1what is the best iso to test? beta? dailies?02:01
ograthat was the LTSP progress bar in the installer ... well, its fixed 50% and reverted to the feisty behavior for the other 50%02:01
ogragood enough for release02:01
pips1ic02:01
ograthe current daily is pretty near to what RC will be02:01
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pips1oki02:01
ograaccording to stgraber it installs fine ... i just ditched my vbirtualbox test and started on real HW here02:02
ograso i cant confirm yet ... but there shouldnt be anything blocking the install anymore02:02
pips1ok, sounds good02:02
stgraberit'd be good to test sound and usb devices, I wasn't able to test that on virtualbox02:03
ograright02:03
pips1stgraber: righty02:03
ograand for localdev actually important, the auth mechanism changed a bit02:04
ograsound didnt change from feisty, alll breakage here must come from the ubuntu alsa changes02:04
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pips1hehe02:08
ogra(not very fast though)02:08
pips1c't lead article is about flash disks...02:08
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pips1for a mass publication, it's actually really good02:09
pips1I mean the articles are well written02:10
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ograi prefer the heise online ticker02:10
pips1and not just cheap copy of marketing blurb02:10
ograc't is nice indeed, they are pretty competent ...02:11
pips1yeah, thorough *German* testing ;-D02:12
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pips1stgraber: do you have an edubuntu demo lab setup for feisty? or will you demo with gutsy?02:18
pips1at school, i mean02:18
stgraberit's half feisty half gutsy current02:20
stgrabergutsy chroot but feisty server02:20
pips1oh02:20
stgraber(to have faster boot and better ldm)02:21
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tsurcjust getting round to writing this wiki article on proxy setup, is there any particular template for edubuntu stuff. I can't see one?03:29
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sbalneavMorning all05:43
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highvoltagemorning sbalneav06:03
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=== Topic for #edubuntu: Order: http://shipit.edubuntu.org || Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu || http://www.edubuntu.org | Wiki: http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuWiki | MEETING: every Wednesday see http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuMeetingAgenda | feisty (7.04) is released, see http://www.edubuntu.org/Download | please help tesing gutsy (7.10) beta https://iso.qa.stgraber.org/qatracker/build/Edubuntu
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titanix88:-D09:10
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SpearOfLughhi09:17
sbalneavHello09:17
LaserJockare we having a meeting in 45min?09:17
sbalneavI'm assuming so.09:22
JordanCSweer09:26
JordanCSweet09:26
SpearOfLughthere is a meeting?09:26
SpearOfLughi'm new here, from greece09:26
sbalneavYup, a meeting in #ubuntu-meeting09:27
sbalneavIn 30+ minutes09:27
SpearOfLughcool... i'm a teacher and i was looking for a good distro for primary schools09:28
SpearOfLughseems edubuntu could do the job09:28
sbalneavWe like to think so :)09:28
SpearOfLughi wonder if there's greek stuff on it too09:28
amalon_ooh theres people around, so i'll ask the q i asked the other day again: is there a way of installing edubuntu using the live cd from the boot menu without loading up edubuntu first. It is unusably slow, and i haven't managed to get the installer to open.09:28
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sbalneavamalon: What kind of machine do you have?09:29
LaserJockamalon: the Classroom Server CD should work just fine09:29
sbalneavSpearOfLugh: Well, there will be greek translations, for sure.09:29
SpearOfLughsbalneav i'll see edubuntu in action and if it's good i can help with translations09:30
amalonits from my wifes nursery, seems pretty powerful 2.5ish ghz but only bout 200meg of ram, no reason it shouldn't be able to handle the live cd. (I'm downloading the server image now)09:31
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cliebow__stgraber;you looking to get tcm going?09:42
cliebow__i'lkl catch you somewhere along the line...bout to book it for home09:42
ograamalon, minial liveCD reqirements are 256M for feisty and 384M for gutsy so if the machine uses shared graphics memory and only is around 200M it wont be enough09:56
amalonogra: ah ok fair enough09:56
LaserJockdang, I thought it was 320MB for gutsy09:56
amalonogra: is the server cd the right one to get, just need a standalone desktop type install09:57
ograLaserJock, it is, colin just picked the next common size09:57
ograLaserJock, actually its even slightly below 300 but he wanted a safety buffer09:57
ograamalon, it has a "install workstation" option09:58
ograbut for the edu apps you should also get the addon CD then09:58
ograthe server CD has to many extra stuff to fit all the edu things on it09:58
amalonogra: right ok09:58
ogra*************** Edubuntu Meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in 2 minutes *********************09:59
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amalonogra: cheers for the help10:01
ogra*************** Edubuntu Meeting in #ubuntu-meeting now *********************10:01
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LaserJockI'm off as well. I gotta get *some* work done today11:11
LaserJockogra, sbalneav: please let me know if you find problems with the docs11:12
LaserJocklike technical problems11:12
ograwill do11:12
LaserJockand maybe tonight while the wife is gone I'll wipe her laptop and do a test install ;-)11:13
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