[11:24] <oshiii-_^> oshi-
[12:32] <stgraber> ogra: heh, this compression progressbar just rocks !!! :)
[12:32] <ogra> heh
[12:32] <ogra> well, i didnt manage to get the build bar going :/
[12:33] <ogra> its still the sucky "two step" bar
[12:33] <stgraber> having the compression one and no more log flood is already a huge improvment
[12:33] <ogra> yeah, indeed
[12:33] <ogra> the log is kept though, just not in the main syslog
[12:34] <stgraber> ok, install done here let's test it
[12:39] <stgraber> ogra: LTSP seems to work just fine too (testing on VirtualBox, will test on real HW tonight)
[12:39] <ogra> cool
[12:40] <ogra> my install is still running ... my system is just to busy for speedy vbox stuff
[01:09] <tsurc> Just finished off our new shinny, very shiny gutsy edubuntu server + squid + dansguardian + transparent proxying, running off one box... box.
[01:11] <tsurc> Where can I write the instructions of 3 or 4 lines needed to set it up?
[01:11] <ogra> create a page on the wiki
[01:11] <ogra> EdubuntuProxySetup or so
[01:12] <ogra> we can link it from the edubuntu FAQ or even pull it in the next handbook ;)
[01:12] <tsurc> I really do love you guys, gutsy rocks and with one iptables line transparent proxying works like an absolute dream
[01:13] <ogra> :)
[01:14] <tsurc> I'll be moving the box down to our boarding house later. any problems I'll let you know. If anyone is going to give it a really good beasting its the ids in the boarding house.
[01:14] <tsurc> ^kids
[01:15] <tsurc> Oooo lunch time. brb
[01:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> tsurc, thats a good combo you have there, difference for me is i have a seperate gateway, running dapper :)
[01:17] <tsurc> yeh in school we have separate boxes. but the boarding house is a special case. We have one server, very limited space and about 15 clients. So it has to be all be rolled onto one server
[01:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> monitoring the dansguardian logs can be invaluable too
[01:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm... *goes to check his*
[01:19] <tsurc> my next big hitter will be a vpn from that site so I can remotely admin it. Thats one hell of a win win, esp with "Ofsted"
[01:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> tsurc, ssh?
[01:19] <tsurc> check mine every two days :-)
[01:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> my proxy is at a community group  -when i went there every week i checked then, atm i havent checked for amonth becaues i've been otherwise engaged
[01:20] <tsurc> yeh, but I've always fancied playing with vpns. For my own academic purposes if nothing else
[01:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> openvpn is decent
[01:21] <tsurc> cool I'll check it out..... if I ever get the time.
[01:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm... some interesting searches been done while i've been absent.
[01:23] <tsurc> Right really must go get lunch. I think I'm giving birth to an alien, at least thats what it sound like. Grummble Grummble ;) I'll leave you too your fun
[01:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> tsurc, have you tried per user logging of sites/dns lookups or filtering per user?
[01:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[01:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> catch you later mate
[01:23] <tsurc> ident?
[01:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> on the gateway
[01:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> eg with dans/squid/iptables
[01:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> nm, i wont hold you from lunch :)
[01:24] <tsurc> played with identd squid and dansguardian, never really got it working yet. Laters ;)
[01:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> later :)
[01:54] <pips1> no edubuntu meeting today?
[01:56] <ogra> i'll try to give a short dev status overview or so tonight
[01:56] <pips1> ok
[01:56] <ogra> but rich is travelling and i'm busy with the last bits before release
[01:56] <ogra> so i'll try to keep it as short as i can
[01:56] <pips1> ic, ok
[01:58] <pips1> is your info on launchpad more or less up to date? blueprints & bugs ?
[01:58] <ogra> nope
[01:59] <pips1> never mind
[02:00] <pips1> in the meeting logs, I read that you were struggling with a major bug that prevents the proper installation or smth... did you manage to fix it?
[02:00] <ogra> all RC bugs should be sorted ... specs are not up to date because most of them were simply not properly handled in the beginning
[02:00] <ogra> i bumped the ones i could to implemented
[02:01] <pips1> what is the best iso to test? beta? dailies?
[02:01] <ogra> that was the LTSP progress bar in the installer ... well, its fixed 50% and reverted to the feisty behavior for the other 50%
[02:01] <ogra> good enough for release
[02:01] <pips1> ic
[02:01] <ogra> the current daily is pretty near to what RC will be
[02:01] <pips1> oki
[02:02] <ogra> according to stgraber it installs fine ... i just ditched my vbirtualbox test and started on real HW here
[02:02] <ogra> so i cant confirm yet ... but there shouldnt be anything blocking the install anymore
[02:02] <pips1> ok, sounds good
[02:03] <stgraber> it'd be good to test sound and usb devices, I wasn't able to test that on virtualbox
[02:03] <ogra> right
[02:03] <pips1> stgraber: righty
[02:04] <ogra> and for localdev actually important, the auth mechanism changed a bit
[02:04] <ogra> sound didnt change from feisty, alll breakage here must come from the ubuntu alsa changes
[02:08] <pips1> hehe
[02:08] <ogra> (not very fast though)
[02:08] <pips1> c't lead article is about flash disks...
[02:09] <pips1> for a mass publication, it's actually really good
[02:10] <pips1> I mean the articles are well written
[02:10] <ogra> i prefer the heise online ticker
[02:10] <pips1> and not just cheap copy of marketing blurb
[02:11] <ogra> c't is nice indeed, they are pretty competent ...
[02:12] <pips1> yeah, thorough *German* testing ;-D
[02:18] <pips1> stgraber: do you have an edubuntu demo lab setup for feisty? or will you demo with gutsy?
[02:18] <pips1> at school, i mean
[02:20] <stgraber> it's half feisty half gutsy current
[02:20] <stgraber> gutsy chroot but feisty server
[02:20] <pips1> oh
[02:21] <stgraber> (to have faster boot and better ldm)
[03:29] <tsurc> just getting round to writing this wiki article on proxy setup, is there any particular template for edubuntu stuff. I can't see one?
[03:55] <bddebian> Heya
[05:43] <sbalneav> Morning all
[06:03] <highvoltage> morning sbalneav
[09:10] <titanix88> :-D
[09:17] <SpearOfLugh> hi
[09:17] <sbalneav> Hello
[09:17] <LaserJock> are we having a meeting in 45min?
[09:22] <sbalneav> I'm assuming so.
[09:26] <JordanC> Sweer
[09:26] <JordanC> Sweet
[09:26] <SpearOfLugh> there is a meeting?
[09:26] <SpearOfLugh> i'm new here, from greece
[09:27] <sbalneav> Yup, a meeting in #ubuntu-meeting
[09:27] <sbalneav> In 30+ minutes
[09:28] <SpearOfLugh> cool... i'm a teacher and i was looking for a good distro for primary schools
[09:28] <SpearOfLugh> seems edubuntu could do the job
[09:28] <sbalneav> We like to think so :)
[09:28] <SpearOfLugh> i wonder if there's greek stuff on it too
[09:28] <amalon_> ooh theres people around, so i'll ask the q i asked the other day again: is there a way of installing edubuntu using the live cd from the boot menu without loading up edubuntu first. It is unusably slow, and i haven't managed to get the installer to open.
[09:29] <sbalneav> amalon: What kind of machine do you have?
[09:29] <LaserJock> amalon: the Classroom Server CD should work just fine
[09:29] <sbalneav> SpearOfLugh: Well, there will be greek translations, for sure.
[09:30] <SpearOfLugh> sbalneav i'll see edubuntu in action and if it's good i can help with translations
[09:31] <amalon> its from my wifes nursery, seems pretty powerful 2.5ish ghz but only bout 200meg of ram, no reason it shouldn't be able to handle the live cd. (I'm downloading the server image now)
[09:42] <cliebow__> stgraber;you looking to get tcm going?
[09:42] <cliebow__> i'lkl catch you somewhere along the line...bout to book it for home
[09:56] <ogra> amalon, minial liveCD reqirements are 256M for feisty and 384M for gutsy so if the machine uses shared graphics memory and only is around 200M it wont be enough
[09:56] <amalon> ogra: ah ok fair enough
[09:56] <LaserJock> dang, I thought it was 320MB for gutsy
[09:57] <amalon> ogra: is the server cd the right one to get, just need a standalone desktop type install
[09:57] <ogra> LaserJock, it is, colin just picked the next common size
[09:57] <ogra> LaserJock, actually its even slightly below 300 but he wanted a safety buffer
[09:58] <ogra> amalon, it has a "install workstation" option
[09:58] <ogra> but for the edu apps you should also get the addon CD then
[09:58] <ogra> the server CD has to many extra stuff to fit all the edu things on it
[09:58] <amalon> ogra: right ok
[09:59] <ogra> *************** Edubuntu Meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in 2 minutes *********************
[10:01] <amalon> ogra: cheers for the help
[10:01] <ogra> *************** Edubuntu Meeting in #ubuntu-meeting now *********************
[11:11] <LaserJock> I'm off as well. I gotta get *some* work done today
[11:12] <LaserJock> ogra, sbalneav: please let me know if you find problems with the docs
[11:12] <LaserJock> like technical problems
[11:12] <ogra> will do
[11:13] <LaserJock> and maybe tonight while the wife is gone I'll wipe her laptop and do a test install ;-)