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=== Topic for #ubuntu-meeting: Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 10 Oct 12:00 UTC: Forum Council | 10 Oct 16:00 UTC: QA Team | 11 Oct 15:00 UTC: Community Development Team | 16 Oct 16:00 UTC: Kernel Team | 17 Oct 16:00 UTC: QA Team | 23 Oct 15:00 UTC: Server Team
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krautmoin08:48
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popeyhttp://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/11:55
popeyyesterdays meeting log is blank11:55
popeyhow odd11:55
popeyhttp://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ubuntu-meeting-2007-10-09.html11:56
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flint_@schedule12:15
ubotuSchedule for Etc/UTC: 10 Oct 12:00: Forum Council | 10 Oct 16:00: QA Team | 11 Oct 15:00: Community Development Team | 16 Oct 16:00: Kernel Team | 17 Oct 16:00: QA Team | 23 Oct 15:00: Server Team12:15
flint_@schedule new york12:15
ubotuSchedule for America/New_York: 10 Oct 08:00: Forum Council | 10 Oct 12:00: QA Team | 11 Oct 11:00: Community Development Team | 16 Oct 12:00: Kernel Team | 17 Oct 12:00: QA Team | 23 Oct 11:00: Server Team12:15
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flint_good morning matt12:37
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forumsmatthewtime01:40
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MikeBmorning all01:59
forumsmatthewHi MikeB01:59
forumsmattheware we alone??01:59
MikeBheard from jdong and vorain, that they could not make it, but not from UG and Kiwi02:00
forumsmatthewI know that u-g's new job is keeping him pretty busy during the adjustment02:01
forumsmatthewlet's give the two of them a few minutes, anyway02:01
MikeBok02:01
forumsmatthewit's an extremely light agenda...02:01
forumsmatthewhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ForumCouncilAgenda02:01
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forumsmatthewas in, empty02:01
MikeBbeamerboy may have put something in the forums02:02
forumsmatthewhmm. nothing here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=29402:02
forumsmatthewI'll look around02:02
forumsmatthewI didn't find anything02:05
forumsmatthewI did answer an unanswered post in the res center, though02:05
MikeBhmmm02:06
MikeBdoes anyone have anything for the forums council02:06
forumsmatthewlol, this will be a short meeting02:07
forumsmatthewthanks for the conky update--that was cool02:07
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MikeBno problem02:07
MikeBthere are some new wireless variables in conky 1.4.7, you should look at02:08
forumsmatthewI saw those the other day...is that the version that is in Gutsy, or will I need to download and compile them in like in Feisty02:09
forumsmatthewI haven't done it, but I've been reading02:09
MikeBthat is in Gutsy, but I have been able to easily backport the deb into Gutsy02:09
forumsmatthewcool...time to play02:10
MikeBone thing I want to add to the agenda next time is blackmail instead of following proper resolution procedures02:10
forumsmatthew+102:11
forumsmatthewI would like us all to discuss that together02:11
MikeBwell I'm going to head out then.02:11
forumsmatthewas well as creating, or at least discussing, a policy for security tools that can be used as cracking devices...and whether they should be posted in howtos02:12
MikeBgood idea02:12
forumsmatthewsounds good. we have our thoughts in the log02:12
forumsmatthew:)02:12
forumsmatthewHave a great day02:12
MikeBthanks02:12
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Knightlustmen, join #ubuntu-meeting.. forum council meeting02:14
Knightlustsorry... wrong window02:14
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Knightlusthello QAs!06:01
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stgraberhey06:01
highvoltagehey stgraber06:02
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liwI'm late again for the meeting, sorry06:05
henoshort agenda today: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam06:05
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henohi cjwatson06:06
bdmurrayThinking about it some more I'm indifferent about buglords vs bugcontrol06:06
liwI prefer bugcontrol, but I don't care strongly in any direction06:07
henoI think buglords will annoy me after a while06:07
henoI'd prefer bug-control06:07
Knightlust+1 for bugcontrol for me06:08
stgraber+1 for bugcontrol too06:08
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henoso that's +3 and 2 for +006:09
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sbalneavPresent10:00
LaserJockhere10:00
=== stgraber too
=== ogra waves
ograhey there10:01
LaserJockis RichEd not here?10:01
ogranot much to talk about today, RC is looking good apparently (even though i still didnt manage to get one install finished here today)10:02
ograrich is traveling10:02
ograhe's in georgia at a conference10:02
ograso10:02
ogralast deadline was RC freeze ...10:03
ograseems we matched that with most of the stuff10:03
ograall three RC bugs we had are fixed10:03
LaserJockgreat10:03
ogranext deadline on the list is RC indeed10:03
ograwe need as much iso testing as we can get (as usual)10:04
ograso please TEST TEST TEST !10:04
LaserJockCD sizes seem to be good10:04
stgraberHas anyone tested a server install on real HW10:04
ograyeah10:04
ograeven DVD is fine10:04
LaserJockogra: really??10:05
stgraberand checked that local device and sound work as expected ?10:05
ograstgraber, my external DVD reader broke today10:05
stgraberogra: :(10:05
ograi'm working on having something in place by tomorrow morning10:05
ograso far i have one issue i'd like to fix in ltsp10:05
LaserJockogra: how did you shrink the DVDs?10:05
ogradropping the -debug kernels :)10:06
stgraberI'm now back at home so I'll have a result on real HW in an hour or two10:06
ograsbalneav, sees some intel cards dont like to work in 32bit depth, how about just making X_COLOR_DEPTH defaulting to 24bit ?10:06
LaserJockogra: ahh, interesting10:06
sbalneavI'm happy with that.10:06
ogras/sees/seems/10:06
ograok, i'll try to get that in before final10:07
sbalneavWhere are the images?  I'll dl and test tonight?10:07
ogracards use 24 internally anyway10:07
LaserJockit looks to me like ppc Desktop CD is the only oversized disk10:07
SpearOfLughgeia10:07
ograheh, i didnt even look at ppc10:07
ograeasy to drop something there before final10:07
LaserJockPPC Classroom Server is fine10:08
LaserJockbut desktop is 711MB10:08
ograsbalneav, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/ as usual10:08
ograah, thats nothing10:08
ograi'll look at it tomorrow10:09
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LaserJockyeah, no biggie, but if it's at trivial thing to have the ports be burnable it's probably worth it10:09
ograyeah10:09
ograjust a matter of dropping something before the final build :)10:10
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sbalneavDL'ing now10:10
ograso, thats all from my side for now10:11
ograwe're on the way :)10:11
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ograany questions ?10:12
sbalneavI have two items10:12
ogratell us10:13
sbalneav1) I'd like to thank all of LaserJocks' hard work for helping me get the doco done.10:13
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ogra++10:13
stgraber+110:13
sbalneavI think the handbook is the best we've ever had it.10:13
sbalneav2) I bought a cottage :)10:14
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ograkudos to all of you10:14
ograand congrats to sbalneav :)10:15
LaserJockhas anybody tried the latest docs in Gnome help?10:15
LaserJockespecially any translations?10:15
sbalneavYeah, I've looked at some of the translations!  It's great!10:15
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ograbut i'll do a german install10:15
LaserJockwell10:16
LaserJockwe didn't get any de translations :(10:16
ograbah10:16
ograwhich did we get ?10:16
LaserJockfor the handbook:10:17
LaserJocken_GB, es, fi, fr, it, po, pt_BR, sv, and zh_CN10:17
sbalneavWowie10:17
sbalneavNo de?10:17
LaserJockI think fr and sv where basically complete10:17
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LaserJockno de10:17
=== ogra wond manage that before final
ogra*won't10:18
sbalneavheh10:18
sbalneavSo, that would be deutchland unter alles?10:18
ograwell, choose between a german translation and a working gutsy classmate image ....10:19
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ograi'm personally leaning towards the latter and leave germany be germany :)10:20
sbalneavyeah, we kinda need the CM thing, eh? :)10:20
LaserJockgermans speak good english right? :-)10:20
ograright10:20
ograif not, thats a good reason to learn it :)10:21
ograanyway, anything else we need to discuss in the meeting ?10:22
LaserJockAbout Edubuntu has 25 translations shipped10:22
ograwow10:22
stgraberServer install started on real HW10:22
LaserJockwe're shipping any translations that > 10% translated10:22
LaserJockhmm, I don't see our meeting on Fridge10:24
ograyeah, last one wasnt on either10:24
LaserJockI think maybe we've run out of schedules10:24
LaserJockI can fix that10:25
LaserJockwhat time is the early one?10:25
LaserJock12:00 UTC?10:25
ograyeah10:26
ogra12 and 2010:26
LaserJockit's sort of insane, but Fridge has no automatic way to do repeating meetings right now10:26
LaserJockso we have to put them in by hand10:27
ograweird10:27
ograwe should probably just embed a google clendar in the page ;)10:27
ogra*calendar10:27
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LaserJockwell, it's gonna get fixed eventually10:28
ograright10:28
LaserJockwe just gotta get some sysadmin time, which is in short supply10:28
ogrado we have any other meeting relevant stuff ?10:30
LaserJocknot I10:30
=== LaserJock just wants to say thanks to everybody involved with Edubuntu development, especially ogra and sbalneav
ograanyone else ?10:31
ogra:)10:31
pips1well, since you ask10:31
ograi'm paied ...10:31
ograsbalneav and LaserJock are the heroes :)10:31
pips1I will need to update the website for the release, I suppose!10:31
ogramight make sense, yes10:31
pips1so, I marked thursday into my calendar10:32
LaserJockyeah, what ever happened to our "new" site?10:32
stgraberWell, thanks all of you involved in Edubuntu Gutsy Gibbon, now it's about testing it and have final release out next week10:32
pips1the release is on thursday 18th, right?10:32
stgraberthen we can focus on Hardy and make it rocks10:32
ogracan we have a banner again at the top of the page with a direct link for the release week ?10:32
stgraberpips1: yes10:32
ograor two10:32
ogra(weeks)10:33
LaserJockyeah, good idea10:33
pips1LaserJock: well, the beta site is still available, it just never took off...10:33
LaserJockbut did edubuntu.org get moved to Drupal5 and get a new theme?10:33
pips1nope10:33
pips1last I heard was highvoltage's mail asking for input regarding the color scheme10:34
pips1but then I never heard anything again :-/10:34
ograwho's your canonical contact ?10:34
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ogranewz2000 ?10:35
ograwould make sense, yes10:35
LaserJockwho all has access to the site?10:35
pips1erm, what is Matt Nuzum's nick again?10:35
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pips1LaserJock: you do, don't you?10:36
ograpips1, newz200010:36
stgraberpips1: Newz200010:36
pips1ogra: stgraber thanks10:36
pips1:-)10:36
LaserJockpips1: no I don't10:37
pips1for the last release, newz2000 implemented this script that dynamically updates the link linsting to the mirror site depending on their availability10:37
LaserJockI think we really should overhaul the site for the release10:38
pips1well...10:38
LaserJockit for sure needs to be updated10:38
pips1yeah10:38
LaserJockbut a new look for a new release would be lovely ;-)10:38
pips1hmm10:38
pips1I wonder why that project got stuck in the pipeline10:39
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pips1I thought both newz2000 and highvoltage were on it.. :-/10:39
pips1I haven't been around much lately10:40
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pips1too busy with work, same old story10:40
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LaserJockpips1: I think it's pretty much the same story for highvoltage10:41
pips1LaserJock: to answer your question: there are several people with access to drupal for editing content... like Will, jonathan, erm, cbx33, ...10:41
ograneither is around anymore ...10:41
LaserJockall people who are not around ....10:41
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pips1I suppose all of these haven't been around lately :-/10:42
ograwell, jonathan from time to time (i.e. today)10:42
LaserJockpips1: can you add people?10:42
pips1sure10:42
pips1should I add you?10:42
LaserJockyes10:42
pips1np10:42
pips1ok10:42
LaserJockI'll have a look around10:42
LaserJockand maybe it'll give me something to do in my spare time *cough*10:43
pips1What name do you want the content to appear under? your real name or your nick?10:43
pips1What should I use as drupal username for you?10:43
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LaserJockhmm, JordanMantha is fine10:43
LaserJockI never know which one to choose10:44
LaserJockso half my accounts are under my name and the other have under my nick10:44
pips1perhaps we can sort this right after the meeting?10:44
pips1LaserJock: see pm10:45
pips1ogra: will RichEd be around for release time?10:46
pips1last release he gave me valuable input for the release text, etc and did some proofreading...10:46
ograhe'll be back tomorrow or friday10:46
pips1oh good10:46
pips1ogra: what time do you think the release will actually happen on thursday? around mid-day?10:49
ograno idea, really10:50
pips1urg10:50
ograthat totally depends on the amount of testing and OMGBUGS we find10:50
pips1well, we should really have the release announcement text ready before thursday...10:51
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ograi think there is something in the works from the marketing team as well, but i'm not sure (richs area)10:51
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ograok, anything else for the meeting ?10:59
stgraberJust for those of you willing to test pre-RC images, please think of reporting your results on the tracker11:00
LaserJockI might be able to do some tests tonight11:00
LaserJockin fact, I should really reinstall my laptop11:00
LaserJockmaybe I should just wipe it and do an Edubuntu install11:01
ograhttps://iso.qa.stgraber.org/qatracker/build/Edubuntu11:01
pips1go Laser go11:01
pips1:-)11:01
ogra^^^^ log results there11:01
pips1stgraber: I will report my findings in your site for sure11:01
LaserJockwhen it has "rebuilding" does that mean that new .isos are currently being built11:02
LaserJockor just that the .iso is deemed invalid11:02
stgraberthey are sort of rebuilding, it required a new ubiquity upload which was done11:05
stgraberso it's somewhere between waiting for the new ubiquity to be in archive and the new ISOs to be rebuilt11:05
ograok, anything else for the meeting ?11:07
ogradoesnt seem like11:09
ogragoing once ....11:09
ogragoing twice ....11:09
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ographew, thanks11:09
ograthat ends another 12h day for me :)11:10
pips1phew!!11:10
pips1get some well deserved sleep, ogra!!11:10
ograwill do ...11:10
pips1good night all11:10
ograi'll crash in front of the TV for 1-2h though :)11:11
LaserJockcya ogra11:11
ograciao11:11
pips1ciao11:12
pips1hope you can wind down, mr. couch potato :-)11:13
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