[08:48] <kraut> moin
[11:55] <popey> http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/
[11:55] <popey> yesterdays meeting log is blank
[11:55] <popey> how odd
[11:56] <popey> http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ubuntu-meeting-2007-10-09.html
[12:15] <flint_> @schedule
[12:15] <ubotu> Schedule for Etc/UTC: 10 Oct 12:00: Forum Council | 10 Oct 16:00: QA Team | 11 Oct 15:00: Community Development Team | 16 Oct 16:00: Kernel Team | 17 Oct 16:00: QA Team | 23 Oct 15:00: Server Team
[12:15] <flint_> @schedule new york
[12:15] <ubotu> Schedule for America/New_York: 10 Oct 08:00: Forum Council | 10 Oct 12:00: QA Team | 11 Oct 11:00: Community Development Team | 16 Oct 12:00: Kernel Team | 17 Oct 12:00: QA Team | 23 Oct 11:00: Server Team
[12:37] <flint_> good morning matt
[01:40] <forumsmatthew> time
[01:59] <MikeB> morning all
[01:59] <forumsmatthew> Hi MikeB
[01:59] <forumsmatthew> are we alone??
[02:00] <MikeB> heard from jdong and vorain, that they could not make it, but not from UG and Kiwi
[02:01] <forumsmatthew> I know that u-g's new job is keeping him pretty busy during the adjustment
[02:01] <forumsmatthew> let's give the two of them a few minutes, anyway
[02:01] <MikeB> ok
[02:01] <forumsmatthew> it's an extremely light agenda...
[02:01] <forumsmatthew> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ForumCouncilAgenda
[02:01] <forumsmatthew> as in, empty
[02:02] <MikeB> beamerboy may have put something in the forums
[02:02] <forumsmatthew> hmm. nothing here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=294
[02:02] <forumsmatthew> I'll look around
[02:05] <forumsmatthew> I didn't find anything
[02:05] <forumsmatthew> I did answer an unanswered post in the res center, though
[02:06] <MikeB> hmmm
[02:06] <MikeB> does anyone have anything for the forums council
[02:07] <forumsmatthew> lol, this will be a short meeting
[02:07] <forumsmatthew> thanks for the conky update--that was cool
[02:07] <MikeB> no problem
[02:08] <MikeB> there are some new wireless variables in conky 1.4.7, you should look at
[02:09] <forumsmatthew> I saw those the other day...is that the version that is in Gutsy, or will I need to download and compile them in like in Feisty
[02:09] <forumsmatthew> I haven't done it, but I've been reading
[02:09] <MikeB> that is in Gutsy, but I have been able to easily backport the deb into Gutsy
[02:10] <forumsmatthew> cool...time to play
[02:10] <MikeB> one thing I want to add to the agenda next time is blackmail instead of following proper resolution procedures
[02:11] <forumsmatthew> +1
[02:11] <forumsmatthew> I would like us all to discuss that together
[02:11] <MikeB> well I'm going to head out then.
[02:12] <forumsmatthew> as well as creating, or at least discussing, a policy for security tools that can be used as cracking devices...and whether they should be posted in howtos
[02:12] <MikeB> good idea
[02:12] <forumsmatthew> sounds good. we have our thoughts in the log
[02:12] <forumsmatthew> :)
[02:12] <forumsmatthew> Have a great day
[02:12] <MikeB> thanks
[02:14] <Knightlust> men, join #ubuntu-meeting.. forum council meeting
[02:14] <Knightlust> sorry... wrong window
[06:01] <Knightlust> hello QAs!
[06:01] <stgraber> hey
[06:02] <highvoltage> hey stgraber
[06:05] <liw> I'm late again for the meeting, sorry
[06:05] <heno> short agenda today: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam
[06:06] <heno> hi cjwatson
[06:06] <bdmurray> Thinking about it some more I'm indifferent about buglords vs bugcontrol
[06:07] <liw> I prefer bugcontrol, but I don't care strongly in any direction
[06:07] <heno> I think buglords will annoy me after a while
[06:07] <heno> I'd prefer bug-control
[06:08] <Knightlust> +1 for bugcontrol for me
[06:08] <stgraber> +1 for bugcontrol too
[06:09] <heno> so that's +3 and 2 for +0
[07:29] <elisee> .
[10:00] <sbalneav> Present
[10:00] <LaserJock> here
[10:01] <ogra> hey there
[10:01] <LaserJock> is RichEd not here?
[10:02] <ogra> not much to talk about today, RC is looking good apparently (even though i still didnt manage to get one install finished here today)
[10:02] <ogra> rich is traveling
[10:02] <ogra> he's in georgia at a conference
[10:02] <ogra> so
[10:03] <ogra> last deadline was RC freeze ...
[10:03] <ogra> seems we matched that with most of the stuff
[10:03] <ogra> all three RC bugs we had are fixed
[10:03] <LaserJock> great
[10:03] <ogra> next deadline on the list is RC indeed
[10:04] <ogra> we need as much iso testing as we can get (as usual)
[10:04] <ogra> so please TEST TEST TEST !
[10:04] <LaserJock> CD sizes seem to be good
[10:04] <stgraber> Has anyone tested a server install on real HW
[10:04] <ogra> yeah
[10:04] <ogra> even DVD is fine
[10:05] <LaserJock> ogra: really??
[10:05] <stgraber> and checked that local device and sound work as expected ?
[10:05] <ogra> stgraber, my external DVD reader broke today
[10:05] <stgraber> ogra: :(
[10:05] <ogra> i'm working on having something in place by tomorrow morning
[10:05] <ogra> so far i have one issue i'd like to fix in ltsp
[10:05] <LaserJock> ogra: how did you shrink the DVDs?
[10:06] <ogra> dropping the -debug kernels :)
[10:06] <stgraber> I'm now back at home so I'll have a result on real HW in an hour or two
[10:06] <ogra> sbalneav, sees some intel cards dont like to work in 32bit depth, how about just making X_COLOR_DEPTH defaulting to 24bit ?
[10:06] <LaserJock> ogra: ahh, interesting
[10:06] <sbalneav> I'm happy with that.
[10:06] <ogra> s/sees/seems/
[10:07] <ogra> ok, i'll try to get that in before final
[10:07] <sbalneav> Where are the images?  I'll dl and test tonight?
[10:07] <ogra> cards use 24 internally anyway
[10:07] <LaserJock> it looks to me like ppc Desktop CD is the only oversized disk
[10:07] <SpearOfLugh> geia
[10:07] <ogra> heh, i didnt even look at ppc
[10:07] <ogra> easy to drop something there before final
[10:08] <LaserJock> PPC Classroom Server is fine
[10:08] <LaserJock> but desktop is 711MB
[10:08] <ogra> sbalneav, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/ as usual
[10:08] <ogra> ah, thats nothing
[10:09] <ogra> i'll look at it tomorrow
[10:09] <LaserJock> yeah, no biggie, but if it's at trivial thing to have the ports be burnable it's probably worth it
[10:09] <ogra> yeah
[10:10] <ogra> just a matter of dropping something before the final build :)
[10:10] <sbalneav> DL'ing now
[10:11] <ogra> so, thats all from my side for now
[10:11] <ogra> we're on the way :)
[10:12] <ogra> any questions ?
[10:12] <sbalneav> I have two items
[10:13] <ogra> tell us
[10:13] <sbalneav> 1) I'd like to thank all of LaserJocks' hard work for helping me get the doco done.
[10:13] <ogra> ++
[10:13] <stgraber> +1
[10:13] <sbalneav> I think the handbook is the best we've ever had it.
[10:14] <sbalneav> 2) I bought a cottage :)
[10:14] <ogra> kudos to all of you
[10:15] <ogra> and congrats to sbalneav :)
[10:15] <LaserJock> has anybody tried the latest docs in Gnome help?
[10:15] <LaserJock> especially any translations?
[10:15] <sbalneav> Yeah, I've looked at some of the translations!  It's great!
[10:15] <ogra> but i'll do a german install
[10:16] <LaserJock> well
[10:16] <LaserJock> we didn't get any de translations :(
[10:16] <ogra> bah
[10:16] <ogra> which did we get ?
[10:17] <LaserJock> for the handbook:
[10:17] <LaserJock> en_GB, es, fi, fr, it, po, pt_BR, sv, and zh_CN
[10:17] <sbalneav> Wowie
[10:17] <sbalneav> No de?
[10:17] <LaserJock> I think fr and sv where basically complete
[10:17] <LaserJock> no de
[10:18] <ogra> *won't
[10:18] <sbalneav> heh
[10:18] <sbalneav> So, that would be deutchland unter alles?
[10:19] <ogra> well, choose between a german translation and a working gutsy classmate image ....
[10:20] <ogra> i'm personally leaning towards the latter and leave germany be germany :)
[10:20] <sbalneav> yeah, we kinda need the CM thing, eh? :)
[10:20] <LaserJock> germans speak good english right? :-)
[10:20] <ogra> right
[10:21] <ogra> if not, thats a good reason to learn it :)
[10:22] <ogra> anyway, anything else we need to discuss in the meeting ?
[10:22] <LaserJock> About Edubuntu has 25 translations shipped
[10:22] <ogra> wow
[10:22] <stgraber> Server install started on real HW
[10:22] <LaserJock> we're shipping any translations that > 10% translated
[10:24] <LaserJock> hmm, I don't see our meeting on Fridge
[10:24] <ogra> yeah, last one wasnt on either
[10:24] <LaserJock> I think maybe we've run out of schedules
[10:25] <LaserJock> I can fix that
[10:25] <LaserJock> what time is the early one?
[10:25] <LaserJock> 12:00 UTC?
[10:26] <ogra> yeah
[10:26] <ogra> 12 and 20
[10:26] <LaserJock> it's sort of insane, but Fridge has no automatic way to do repeating meetings right now
[10:27] <LaserJock> so we have to put them in by hand
[10:27] <ogra> weird
[10:27] <ogra> we should probably just embed a google clendar in the page ;)
[10:27] <ogra> *calendar
[10:28] <LaserJock> well, it's gonna get fixed eventually
[10:28] <ogra> right
[10:28] <LaserJock> we just gotta get some sysadmin time, which is in short supply
[10:30] <ogra> do we have any other meeting relevant stuff ?
[10:30] <LaserJock> not I
[10:31] <ogra> anyone else ?
[10:31] <ogra> :)
[10:31] <pips1> well, since you ask
[10:31] <ogra> i'm paied ...
[10:31] <ogra> sbalneav and LaserJock are the heroes :)
[10:31] <pips1> I will need to update the website for the release, I suppose!
[10:31] <ogra> might make sense, yes
[10:32] <pips1> so, I marked thursday into my calendar
[10:32] <LaserJock> yeah, what ever happened to our "new" site?
[10:32] <stgraber> Well, thanks all of you involved in Edubuntu Gutsy Gibbon, now it's about testing it and have final release out next week
[10:32] <pips1> the release is on thursday 18th, right?
[10:32] <stgraber> then we can focus on Hardy and make it rocks
[10:32] <ogra> can we have a banner again at the top of the page with a direct link for the release week ?
[10:32] <stgraber> pips1: yes
[10:32] <ogra> or two
[10:33] <ogra> (weeks)
[10:33] <LaserJock> yeah, good idea
[10:33] <pips1> LaserJock: well, the beta site is still available, it just never took off...
[10:33] <LaserJock> but did edubuntu.org get moved to Drupal5 and get a new theme?
[10:33] <pips1> nope
[10:34] <pips1> last I heard was highvoltage's mail asking for input regarding the color scheme
[10:34] <pips1> but then I never heard anything again :-/
[10:34] <ogra> who's your canonical contact ?
[10:35] <ogra> newz2000 ?
[10:35] <ogra> would make sense, yes
[10:35] <LaserJock> who all has access to the site?
[10:35] <pips1> erm, what is Matt Nuzum's nick again?
[10:36] <pips1> LaserJock: you do, don't you?
[10:36] <ogra> pips1, newz2000
[10:36] <stgraber> pips1: Newz2000
[10:36] <pips1> ogra: stgraber thanks
[10:36] <pips1> :-)
[10:37] <LaserJock> pips1: no I don't
[10:37] <pips1> for the last release, newz2000 implemented this script that dynamically updates the link linsting to the mirror site depending on their availability
[10:38] <LaserJock> I think we really should overhaul the site for the release
[10:38] <pips1> well...
[10:38] <LaserJock> it for sure needs to be updated
[10:38] <pips1> yeah
[10:38] <LaserJock> but a new look for a new release would be lovely ;-)
[10:38] <pips1> hmm
[10:39] <pips1> I wonder why that project got stuck in the pipeline
[10:39] <pips1> I thought both newz2000 and highvoltage were on it.. :-/
[10:40] <pips1> I haven't been around much lately
[10:40] <pips1> too busy with work, same old story
[10:41] <LaserJock> pips1: I think it's pretty much the same story for highvoltage
[10:41] <pips1> LaserJock: to answer your question: there are several people with access to drupal for editing content... like Will, jonathan, erm, cbx33, ...
[10:41] <ogra> neither is around anymore ...
[10:41] <LaserJock> all people who are not around ....
[10:42] <pips1> I suppose all of these haven't been around lately :-/
[10:42] <ogra> well, jonathan from time to time (i.e. today)
[10:42] <LaserJock> pips1: can you add people?
[10:42] <pips1> sure
[10:42] <pips1> should I add you?
[10:42] <LaserJock> yes
[10:42] <pips1> np
[10:42] <pips1> ok
[10:42] <LaserJock> I'll have a look around
[10:43] <LaserJock> and maybe it'll give me something to do in my spare time *cough*
[10:43] <pips1> What name do you want the content to appear under? your real name or your nick?
[10:43] <pips1> What should I use as drupal username for you?
[10:43] <LaserJock> hmm, JordanMantha is fine
[10:44] <LaserJock> I never know which one to choose
[10:44] <LaserJock> so half my accounts are under my name and the other have under my nick
[10:44] <pips1> perhaps we can sort this right after the meeting?
[10:45] <pips1> LaserJock: see pm
[10:46] <pips1> ogra: will RichEd be around for release time?
[10:46] <pips1> last release he gave me valuable input for the release text, etc and did some proofreading...
[10:46] <ogra> he'll be back tomorrow or friday
[10:46] <pips1> oh good
[10:49] <pips1> ogra: what time do you think the release will actually happen on thursday? around mid-day?
[10:50] <ogra> no idea, really
[10:50] <pips1> urg
[10:50] <ogra> that totally depends on the amount of testing and OMGBUGS we find
[10:51] <pips1> well, we should really have the release announcement text ready before thursday...
[10:51] <ogra> i think there is something in the works from the marketing team as well, but i'm not sure (richs area)
[10:59] <ogra> ok, anything else for the meeting ?
[11:00] <stgraber> Just for those of you willing to test pre-RC images, please think of reporting your results on the tracker
[11:00] <LaserJock> I might be able to do some tests tonight
[11:00] <LaserJock> in fact, I should really reinstall my laptop
[11:01] <LaserJock> maybe I should just wipe it and do an Edubuntu install
[11:01] <ogra> https://iso.qa.stgraber.org/qatracker/build/Edubuntu
[11:01] <pips1> go Laser go
[11:01] <pips1> :-)
[11:01] <ogra> ^^^^ log results there
[11:01] <pips1> stgraber: I will report my findings in your site for sure
[11:02] <LaserJock> when it has "rebuilding" does that mean that new .isos are currently being built
[11:02] <LaserJock> or just that the .iso is deemed invalid
[11:05] <stgraber> they are sort of rebuilding, it required a new ubiquity upload which was done
[11:05] <stgraber> so it's somewhere between waiting for the new ubiquity to be in archive and the new ISOs to be rebuilt
[11:07] <ogra> ok, anything else for the meeting ?
[11:09] <ogra> doesnt seem like
[11:09] <ogra> going once ....
[11:09] <ogra> going twice ....
[11:09] <ogra> phew, thanks
[11:10] <ogra> that ends another 12h day for me :)
[11:10] <pips1> phew!!
[11:10] <pips1> get some well deserved sleep, ogra!!
[11:10] <ogra> will do ...
[11:10] <pips1> good night all
[11:11] <ogra> i'll crash in front of the TV for 1-2h though :)
[11:11] <LaserJock> cya ogra
[11:11] <ogra> ciao
[11:12] <pips1> ciao
[11:13] <pips1> hope you can wind down, mr. couch potato :-)