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=== Topic for #ubuntu-mythtv: "Welcome to #ubuntu-mythtv :: Mythbuntu Beta Released :: See our website at http://www.mythbuntu.org :: Paste logs @ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org :: See our wiki for setting up and troubleshooting: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV "
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solarbabyanyone know if that python script that lets the xbox connect to mythtv as a frontend, anyone know if it works?06:07
solarbabyhow could you live with just 5 games? my xbox has 14 thousand ;)06:08
solarbabyI can't imagine i'll play many of those old comodore 64 games again, but just having them and loading them from time to time is a really blast from the past06:09
tgm4883omg! alt+F4 = space06:09
solarbabyuh uh06:10
solarbabyWow hold down the power button for 5 seconds and you get free ring tones~!06:11
tgm4883sweet06:11
solarbabyheheh06:11
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camelreefmorning all08:04
MitoTraninmorning08:05
camelreeflaga, still online ?08:05
camelreefoh well...08:06
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MythbuntuGuest21got a problem09:55
MythbuntuGuest21I need to setup my program guide but dont know how09:55
MythbuntuGuest21can someone help me?09:56
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MythbuntuGuest08anyone here?09:58
MythbuntuGuest08I need help09:58
directhex|workstate your problem and if someone's awake, they might answer09:59
MythbuntuGuest08I need to setup my program guide on mythtv09:59
MythbuntuGuest08all of my channels I get say "adding channel 2" for example10:00
DaveMorrishow are you getting the chanel guide data?10:00
MythbuntuGuest08I am not10:00
MythbuntuGuest08I need to know how10:00
DaveMorriswhere do you live?10:01
MythbuntuGuest08I just scan the channels and started watching tv10:01
MythbuntuGuest08us10:01
MythbuntuGuest08houston texas to be exact10:01
directhex|workDaveMorris, maybe mythtv-setup needs to force wizard-style use. everyone seems to ignore the middle steps10:01
MythbuntuGuest08I thought I followed all the steps10:02
DaveMorrisI'm not sure if they have EIT over there, otherwise you need to use schedules direct.10:03
directhex|workstep 3 is where you set up guide data. what did you pick?10:03
MythbuntuGuest08schedules direct10:03
DaveMorrisI'm afraid I know nothing about schedules direct10:04
MythbuntuGuest08ok10:04
DaveMorrisI however know you need to have paid for an account10:04
directhex|worknor i. wait until the americans are awake. and ask in #mythtv-users instead - you'll get more response, and your problem isn't ubuntu related10:04
directhex|workDaveMorris, there's a 7 day trial, at least whilst getting things working10:05
DaveMorrisoh, shows how much I know ;)10:05
DaveMorrisI best start work now though10:05
MythbuntuGuest08thanks for the try at helping10:07
MythbuntuGuest08they want you to pay to get the listings10:11
directhex|workthere are 2 (if memory serves) companies in the US which generate listings data10:15
directhex|workthey charge an obscene sum of money for their data10:15
MythbuntuGuest08yeah10:16
MythbuntuGuest08it is insane10:16
directhex|workthere are a number of resellers of the data, who charge a low fee for a subscription to the listings data10:16
directhex|workand larger companies place a version of the data on web pages, but those are difficult to extract data from (and it's usually a violation of the t&c to do so)10:17
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DaveMorrisI though schedules direct was only around $7 a year10:28
DaveMorrissorry $20 a year10:29
DaveMorristhats still very cheap imo10:29
directhex|workDaveMorris, that's almost three pints! :o10:29
DaveMorrisaround 80p a month10:30
DaveMorrishow much did a copy of radio times you used to buy a wek/month cost?10:30
directhex|workRT is about 70p i think10:31
directhex|worka week10:31
DaveMorrispersonally I just use the transmitted one here in the UK10:31
directhex|worki just switched from EIT to RT10:36
DaveMorrisI did use RT but it screwed up my db badly once, never went back10:37
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lagare11:35
lagamcc rocks11:35
laga:)11:35
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solarbabyHello01:45
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lagahi solarbaby01:47
solarbabyHey..  was hoping to get a little advice.. I downloaded the newest version of Mythbuntu and the installer crashes at 14% format01:48
laga"crashes"? do you get a backtrace?01:49
solarbabyI dont think so..  it immediate shifts to 14% completed after about 1 second and then no hard drive activity and a complete system crash.. screen just stays exactly the same01:50
lagacan you move the mouse?01:51
solarbabydont think so..01:52
lagacan you verify, or did you reboot that computer?01:53
solarbabyrebooted the computer.. I've been through this 3 times.. im convinced its crashing out01:53
solarbabyI just booted up with Ubuntu to log into irc and talk to you now.. I have the live boot cd.. should I use this to format?01:54
lagasounds like broken hardware to me, or the infamous unionfs issues..01:54
lagaum01:54
lagado you have a regular ubuntu gutsy disk?01:55
solarbabythe website sez dont worry there is a work around for unionfs and offers no info on it01:55
solarbabyyes.. im booted with that regular disk at the moment01:55
lagahum01:55
lagacan you try to install the regular gutsy disk? no worries, you can convert ubuntu into mythbuntu in no time using the control centre01:55
solarbabythat was my hopes..  yeah..  as soon as I figure out how to do it right01:56
lagaif it works, file a bug against mythbuntu. if it doesnt work, file a bug against ubuntu ;))01:58
solarbabythis really puts a damper on installing it in 20 minutes01:58
solarbabyhehe01:58
lagawhen i installed it yesterday, i had to cope with a faulty memory stick and a fauly IDE cable first...01:59
lagabah, trying to compile sisctrl for this vga chip. and it doesnt really work.01:59
solarbabyyuck.. sorry to hear that01:59
solarbabyI decided to throw in the towl on gbpvr for something better.. I just hope I get it working02:00
solarbabyI really want something that works with my xbox's better then gbpvr ever would02:00
lagaword is that xbmc + mythtv works well, or mythfrontend on the xbox itself02:01
lagaif you're in the US, you're really lucky02:01
solarbabyyeah im in the US02:02
lagai had to fiddle a lot to get my analog channel lineup working. bah02:02
solarbabyand I was hoping to actually use a MythTV python script launched from XBMC02:02
lagayeah, good luck. :)02:02
lagaxbmc must be nice02:02
solarbabywe dont have the free labs.zap2it anymore.. now we have to pay for something.. bah..  but I still get use of the screen scraper that takes its info from zap02:03
solarbabyXBMC is the nicest piece of software I've ever used before02:03
frink_yo02:03
frink_madness02:03
solarbabyHiya Fink02:03
solarbabysorry02:03
solarbabyFrink02:04
lagasolarbaby: bah, paying for schedules direct is good for your soul ;)02:04
solarbabyI think your right.. and I will02:04
solarbabyit'll be dependable and worth it02:04
solarbabybefore I pay though, I must have a PVR I like02:04
lagasolarbaby: theres a free 7 day trial02:05
solarbabyright on.. didn't know that02:05
lagado you get your channel line up  for your area if you use the screen scraper?02:05
solarbabyYeah I do02:05
solarbabyits awesome02:05
laganice02:06
solarbabyyou sign up for an account at zap2it the new site..  and then you prefence your channel linup..  and then you tell the scraper what your user and pass is and it gets everything you selected02:06
lagai was gonna write a screen scraper for my cbale co's website to get me my channel lineup. too bad my perl sucks02:06
solarbabymine too02:06
lagawell, i almost got it working. but i couldnt wrap my head around any of the html parsers out there, and my regexp foo is a bit weak02:07
solarbabyI guess I should figure out how to install ubuntu now02:08
solarbabybrb02:08
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lagathe GF better likes mythtv.02:10
lagahum, that was easy. the binary packages just installed :)02:10
solarbabyAlright..  Ubuntu is installing..02:13
solarbabyI hope this is as easy as you say02:13
solarbabythis one just passed 14% formated02:14
solarbabyFrink I believe I remember where I heard your name before.. there was a really cool movie..  damn if I can remember the name but Frink was some kind of Magical creature02:16
lagacare bears?02:18
solarbabyaffraid not02:18
solarbabyI wanna say it was some Sorcerer or Magician type movie..  one of the biggies like Exalibur or something02:19
lagahum, tv stays blank. bah.02:19
directhex|workprofessor frink professor frink he'll make you laugh he'll make you think02:19
solarbabycute02:19
directhex|worksimpsons02:19
directhex|workhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professor_Frink02:19
solarbabyI'd probably be alot better at installing this tonight if I were stoned02:26
solarbabyoh well.. i'll have to make due sober02:26
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solarbabyIt is time for my installation journey to begin.. I'll see you all later02:30
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solarbabyAlright I'm ready for a little help here..  I "Believe" I need to install ivtv in order to get my Hauppauge 350 up and running..  ivtv-fb (PVR350 specific) requires that you enable the following kernel04:41
solarbabyconfig options: Go to 'Device drivers -> Graphics support'. Enable 'Support for frame04:41
solarbabyI really dont know how to do this at all :)04:41
solarbabyAny help is greatly appreciated I am kinda swimming in this at the moment04:42
bendaileysolarbaby: those options are for compiling your own kernel04:44
solarbabyI knew I was reading the wrong thing04:45
solarbabywhat do you suggest I do? do you have a really nice walk through you can point me too?04:45
bendaileysolarbaby: have you done apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade yet?04:45
solarbabydamn.. no I totally forgot about that04:46
tgm4883frink_, ping04:46
bendaileysolarbaby: the 2.6.22 kernels should have the ivtv stuff already04:46
bendaileyafter dist-upgrade let me know what you get you may just need an additional module04:47
solarbabyOk this is going to sound totally classic, but I just installed ubuntu and I can't su to root it sez my password isn't right04:47
lagause sudo04:47
directhex|workubuntu doesn't use a classic root account04:47
bendaileysolarbaby: ^^^^^^^04:47
solarbabyoh04:47
bendaileyman those guys are fast :)04:47
directhex|workuse "sudo somecommand"04:47
solarbabyThanks! your life savers you are04:47
directhex|workif you really want to, "sudo bash" is pretty much the same end result as "su"04:48
bendaileysolarbaby: sudo -i04:48
lagaor sudo su - ;)04:48
solarbabyyeah im really liking the people on this channel your awesome04:48
tgm4883Has anyone seen frink around?  I've been looking for him for a couple days04:48
directhex|workprofessor frink professor frink he'll make you laugh he'll make you think04:48
solarbabysudo bash is for me.. Im just used to putzing around like an idiot on the root account04:48
solarbabyfrink was talking in here about 3 hours ago04:49
tgm4883arg04:49
tgm4883where does he live?04:49
solarbabysudo su.. there ya go04:49
tgm4883europe?04:49
bendaileysolarbaby: sudo -i gives you an interactive root shell I guess it is equivalent to sudo bash ???04:49
laga16:37 [freenode]  -!- frink_ [i=1001@areyouwantingfaster.internetserviceprovidings.in] 04:52
lagawth :)04:52
lagayes, i know my clock is wrong04:52
tgm4883laga, next time you see frink in here can you get a status update on rsync.  I seem to just miss him.04:52
tgm4883in.  India?04:52
directhex|workrun ntp or your recordings will be wrong! aaaargh!04:52
solarbabybendailey: Alright..  it turns out I didn't need any updates from apt04:52
solarbabybendailey: I suppose Synaptic Package Manager took care of that stuff for me04:53
lagatgm4883: yes. (or shoot him an email?)04:53
lagadirecthex|work: this is not a mythtv box04:53
tgm4883do you have his email?04:53
lagatgm4883: no04:54
tgm4883me neither04:54
tgm4883I bet superm1 does04:54
directhex|workis it not on his launchpad profile?04:54
bendaileysolarbaby: apt-cache search ivtv04:54
lagasome minor tweaks for tv-out aside, i think the mythtv box for the GF is ready.04:54
tgm4883wheres mythbot to do my dirty work?04:54
bendaileywhat does that give you?04:54
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lagacan someone summon foxbuntu? i need to know how to escape "Back/Exit" in my lircrc proerly04:55
lagaproperly04:55
tgm4883sure04:55
tgm4883witches and goblins and snake and frogs04:56
tgm4883summon foxbuntu from the depths of the logs04:56
solarbabybendailey: ivtv-fb (PVR350 specific) requires that you enable the following kernel04:56
tgm4883muahahahaha04:56
solarbabyconfig options: Go to 'Device drivers -> Graphics support'. Enable 'Support for frame04:56
directhex|worksolarbaby, you don't want to use ivtv-fb. really.04:56
lagatgm4883: rotfl. weirdo :)04:57
solarbabyIf I can get by doing the easist and best way you recommend im all for it04:57
directhex|worksolarbaby, what exactly is the problem?04:57
solarbabyI just installed Ubuntu an hour ago and I noticed I dont have the Hauppauge 350 showing up in my hardware list04:58
solarbabyIm not very good with the hardware side of linux.. so this really stumps me04:58
bendaileysolarbaby: what "hardware list" ?05:00
solarbabyClicking System, Prefrences, Hardware List05:00
tgm4883solarbaby, do lspci in the terminal and post the output to pastebin05:01
solarbabyOk05:01
solarbabytgm4883: http://pastebin.com/d198b8f9f05:04
directhex|work02:04.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC15 MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01)05:05
solarbabythat means its working doesn't it?05:05
solarbabysorry im a real newbie to this side of linux..  heh05:06
directhex|workit means the hardware is detected05:06
solarbabywell thats a good sign.. I dunno if im ready to go ahead and start with the install of MythTV yet or check other things first05:07
directhex|workit doesn't neccessarily mean the driver's loaded though05:08
solarbabyah05:08
tgm4883i think it's fine05:08
tgm4883you could always test05:08
tgm4883is this a gutsy install?05:08
solarbabyby doing what?05:08
solarbabyyes05:08
directhex|worktry "dmesg | grep ivtv"05:08
tgm4883cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg05:08
directhex|workor that i suppose05:08
solarbabyheh ok i'll start with the top05:09
directhex|work"ivtv: Initialized WinTV PVR 350, card #1" would be a good message to see at the bottom of that dmesg output05:09
tgm4883ls | grep video do this first05:10
tgm4883so we know we have the right vid device05:10
tgm4883ls | grep video05:10
directhex|worktgm4883, try again05:10
tgm4883err05:10
tgm4883whoops05:10
solarbabyHappy Days it looks like it works..  please take a look http://pastebin.com/d1fa8654d05:10
tgm4883ls | grep /dev/video05:10
tgm4883good catch directhex|work05:11
directhex|work2.6.20? you're on feisty, not gutsy05:11
solarbabyOops05:11
directhex|workbut it's loading the firmware for you05:11
directhex|workso it works05:11
directhex|workwell. should damn well work05:11
tgm4883it's built into feisty too05:11
solarbabySweeet!05:11
solarbabyThank God, and Thank you Folks as well05:11
solarbabyI am ready to install Myth05:12
tgm4883!guides05:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about guides - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:12
tgm4883!mythtv05:12
ubotuMythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV05:12
tgm4883there ya go05:12
solarbabyIM already there.. but they didn't explain the Tuner Card stuff05:13
solarbabyyou guys did a great job of that though..05:13
tgm4883it doesn't need to explain much about the pvr cards as support is built in05:14
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solarbabythey certainly didn't update the guide on labs.zap2it.com05:14
solarbaby(tapping foot)05:14
tgm4883solarbaby, your right.  We didn't05:14
solarbabyI have a work around for that05:15
solarbabyits not a very good one either.. but its called zap2xml05:15
tgm4883thats ok, i like SD05:15
solarbabyyeah just another one of those pesky scrapers but it works.. dunno how to incorp it into myth though05:15
solarbabySD I haven't used yet..  I really should sign up for my demo account05:15
tgm4883yea you should05:15
directhex|worksolarbaby, with difficulty. you could try schedulesdirect for the trial period, and decide whether it's worth the trivial price05:16
solarbabywith difficulity eh?05:16
tgm4883or you could just be a man and sign up ;)05:17
solarbabyheh.. is it only $20 a year yet?05:17
tgm4883yep05:18
tgm4883!schedulesdirect05:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about schedulesdirect - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:18
tgm4883oh well05:18
solarbabysweet..05:18
DaveMorris$schedulesdirect05:19
DaveMorriswhere is that mythbot05:19
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lagafoxbuntu: hey05:27
tgm4883frink_, whats the status on rsync?05:27
lagafoxbuntu: what magic did you have to do to escape Back/Exit properly?05:27
tgm4883see laga, told you I could summon him05:27
lagaheh05:29
frink_tgm4883: Oh I duno status, superm1 admins it all innit..05:29
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tgm4883ah05:30
foxbuntulaga, actually turns out I was escaping it and didn't did to05:31
lagafoxbuntu: ah. well, cause i have "    button = Back/Exit05:31
laga"05:32
lagaand its no worky.05:32
tgm4883bendailey, ping05:32
foxbuntulaga, thats strange05:32
foxbuntuI actually don't have a remote to test the actual button05:33
tgm4883frink_, could bendailey do it?05:33
foxbuntulaga, in your lircd.conf is the button name actually Back/Exit?05:35
laga          Back/Exit                0x00000000000017DF05:35
lagabtw, this was not generated using the latest mlg probably05:36
lagabut it looks sane, still05:36
tgm4883frink_, bendailey, i gotta run.  Back on in about an hour.  Shoot me an email (or an email to the list) and let me know what you two decide.  I'm checking with superm1 to see if he was planning on doing it or going to delegate it to someone else05:36
foxbuntulaga the latest is 0.15 unless superm1 hasn't pushed that to archive yet05:36
foxbuntuthen its 0.1405:36
foxbuntubut on the other side that should work05:37
foxbuntuunless the lircrc doesn't properly escape that button type05:37
foxbuntuwith the '/' in there05:37
foxbuntulaga, did you restart lirc after you generated the new config?05:38
lagafoxbuntu: it has been restarted several times by now.05:38
foxbuntulaga, just checking05:38
lagak05:39
lagaim not upset ;)05:39
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lagatoo bad that everything has to default on PAL when i have a NTSC TV set05:40
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camelreefhello all07:35
camelreeflaga, remember my OSD size issue yesterday?07:35
camelreefnot OSD GUI07:35
camelreefbut GUI07:35
camelreefIhope you did not lose sleep over it...07:35
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camelreefmy kid played with the TV's remote and had changed the zoom setting....07:36
tgm4883_laptoplol07:36
superm1haha07:36
camelreefhe is now dead and is being eated by rodents outside07:36
superm1nice job07:36
camelreefsorry :o/07:36
camelreefI can;t believe I first searched through logs and changelogs forst....07:39
superm1i've got the same problem, i forget that there are low tech solutions and jump to conclusions07:40
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camelreefanyway, ttyl07:47
pdragonheh.. i've gotten so used to linux's hover window focus it's been driving me nuts not having it at work where i have to use Windows07:48
pdragonTweakUI has an option to let Windows do it :)07:48
lagare07:49
lagaclaydoh: re07:49
lagaerr, camelreef..07:49
laga<- confused. sorry.07:49
tgm4883_laptopsomeones been drinking again07:49
lagano, been outside07:50
lagaSCARYSCARYSCARY07:50
tgm4883_laptopthat is scary07:50
pdragonhaha07:50
tgm4883_laptopoutside needs internet07:50
superm1pdragon, that's configurable07:50
superm1most distros turn that off by default though07:50
pdragonubuntu with gnome has it on by default07:50
pdragoni like it07:50
superm1no it doesn't?07:51
superm1unless things have changed07:51
superm1recently07:51
pdragoni never turned it on and it's always had it07:51
pdragonjust the focus change. doesn't bring the window forward07:51
superm1hm interesting, still didn't even think that was on07:51
tgm4883_laptopyes is does07:51
tgm4883_laptopfocus change rocks07:52
superm1oh god that's annoying07:52
superm1i'm glad i have that off07:52
pdragonit does have a slight delay. at first the Windows setting didn't and yes, that was annoying07:52
pdragonthat's adjustable too tho thankfully07:52
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pdragonnow i can just leave my chat as only slightly visible on the bottom of my screen, but still be able to type it in without bringing the whole thing forward and covering my other windows07:54
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solarbabyis anyone using the USBUIRT?08:23
solarbabyI ask because im still installing Myth and im not sure if I should tell it i'll be using lirc or something else that works08:23
lagawhat is an USBUIRT?08:26
lagaand what drivers are there?08:26
solarbabyIts a very simple usb device that transmits IR signals08:26
pdragonhttp://www.usbuirt.com/08:27
pdragoni think it's a pretty standard device as far as mythtv support from what i've read08:27
solarbabyI've installed their windows drivers before..  and Ubuntu knows I have a USBUIRT.. its the config of Myth im concerned about08:27
pdragonhaven't done it myself tho08:27
solarbabythis could very well be the most advanced part of install08:28
pdragonyeah i haven't gotten around to trying to set up a remote yet myself. got everything else working that i wanted08:31
solarbabyhehe..  I can understand08:31
pdragonjust use a wireless keyboard for now08:31
solarbabyI paid $50 for this little device.. I'd love to use it08:32
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tushydhey, anyone know if I could use an xbox 360 hddvd drive in Ubuntu?08:35
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therethinkerhello mythbot08:37
mythbotHi therethinker.08:37
tgm4883_laptophello therethinker08:41
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therethinker:P09:10
therethinkerI was making sure it worked... it just died for no reason09:10
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lagahey therethinker09:11
lagatherethinker: did you fix the locale error in ubiquity?09:11
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therethinkerOh, in ubiquity09:14
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tgm4883_laptopim really back this time bendailey09:14
therethinker:P09:14
solarbabyLirc is confusing stuff09:15
tgm4883_laptopso the script just segments by country?09:15
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Dr_willishmm.. installing  ubuntu-mythtv-frontend , on this box decided to gernate its own mysql database/password.. dident ask me about the BACKEND i wanted it to connect to. :)09:32
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lagaDr_willis: you probably installed mythtv-database, too?09:33
lagaanyways, run sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-common09:33
Dr_willisi installed the.. letssee...09:34
Dr_willisubuntu-mythtv-frontend - Metapackage to setup and configure a "Frontend" profile of MythTV.09:34
lagafile a bug then ;)09:34
directhexDr_willis, what did you istall it with?09:34
Dr_willisapt-get install ubuntu-mythtv-frontend09:35
Dr_willisthere we go..  reconfigured the -common and it took the right info.09:36
directhexhm, not sure why that would happen then09:36
superm1that's normal behavior09:36
superm1most people don't need to do that09:36
Dr_willisyea - it dident ask to configure it the first time.09:36
superm1so we hide it from them09:36
superm1but those that do need it, can reconfigure that method09:36
Dr_willislets see if this puppy works. :)09:37
lagawill those who need it know how to do that?09:37
Dr_willisI was going through trying dpnk-reconfigure on the bits. :) wasent sure what one to reconfigure.09:37
directhexhigh priority debconf question of some kind?09:37
Dr_willisalso i  lost the message it said what to run.. since i had to logoiut to change the mythtv group for my user.09:37
Dr_willisegads - prescaling theme images is slow on this box.. and its my HIGHend box. :)09:38
superm1directhex, well it used to be high priority09:38
superm1directhex, but we dropped it down to hide it from people09:38
superm1Dr_willis, just the first time09:38
directhexzomg! dumbing down teh loonicks!09:38
lagadirecthex: rotfl09:38
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Dr_willisThe Mythbuntu box  i set up the other day. went smoothly. :) just that little hickup here.09:39
Dr_willishere we go.. lets see whqt toons i recorded last night09:39
Dr_willisDoh. Unable to initilize video.09:40
Dr_willisHmm the preview is showing.09:40
Dr_willisi wonder if the twinview i got going is confusing things.09:40
superm1directhex, if you look at the forums at how many people got confused and started putting the wrong stuff in those boxes, you'd see why we did that :)09:42
superm1Dr_willis, shouldn't.09:42
directhexsuperm1, so... dumbing down for the dumb then :)09:42
Dr_willisaha the hostname in database config is wrong. its localhost. when it should be my 'mythbox'09:42
beavisIs it possible to remove all unneeded things that were installed by the default gutsy installation with mythbuntu somehow?09:42
Dr_willisbummer.. still unable to initilize video.09:43
directhexbeavis, packages you don't need you mean?09:43
lagabeavis: remove ubuntu-desktop and friends?09:43
lagause deborphan?09:43
beavisdirecthex, packages a simple frontend doesn't mean09:43
lagadont break anything KTHX? :)09:43
beavisneed09:43
directhexbeavis, well, deborphan, but good luck. just how certain are you something isn't needed?09:44
beavisI only need the frontend packages so all the things gutsy installed aren't necessary there09:44
directhexwell, remove ubuntu-desktop, run deborphan, and pray. that ought to work09:45
directhexor pehaps some aptitude voodoo09:46
lagaaptitude should remove unneeded packages automagically09:46
beavisOMG this doesn't sound like something I want to do ;)09:46
laganot sure if that works for ubuntu-desktop09:46
lagabeavis: if you dont believe in god, you can leave out the "pray" part09:46
beaviswhat about the services gutsy starts automatically?09:46
lagaremove them if you dont need them09:46
directhexyeah, you don;t need cups really09:50
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laga$boobs09:55
mythbotSorry, I neither I or ubotu knew, but Wikipedia says: "The term breast refers to the upper ventral region of an animals torso, particularly that of mammals, including human beings." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boobs09:55
Dr_willisHmm. Well I connect to my mythbackend now, i get the recorded shows shown, and even see a little preview/thumbnail of the show. I go to play it get 'error can not initilize video' -   any suggestions as to where to trouble shoot first?09:55
lagaDr_willis: what kind of hardware is this?09:56
Dr_willisnvidia 8800gtsxxx video card.   AMD AM2 6000 CPU.09:56
lagaeek09:56
lagathat's a nice frontend.09:56
Dr_willisI am using twinview.. but ive used that befor  on the other box.09:56
Dr_willisThe backend is in the basement. :) its my old box now.09:57
Dr_willisalso using compiz.09:57
lagastart mythfrontend in  a terminal, try to play a recording and check in the terminal09:57
lagaand you might wanna disable compiz09:57
Dr_willisyea.i enabled logging.. looking at them now.09:57
Dr_williscompiz and mythtv works together nicely on the backend machine. :)09:58
Dr_willisit has a Nvidia 680009:58
lagai have no clue what you are doing with high end video cards in these boxes ;)09:59
directhex6800 ain#t high end, it's antique!09:59
Dr_willisfor a back end. :)  its good.10:00
Dr_willisMy old mythtv box had a 520010:00
Dr_willisits now the spare front end.10:00
lagamy backend does not even have a VGA card ;)10:00
lagait's still drawing like 90W :/10:00
Dr_willis (BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied))10:00
Dr_willisthat looks bad..10:00
Dr_willis2007-10-10 15:59:14.772 VideoOutputXv Error: Failed to create XVideo Buffers.10:01
Dr_willisX Error: BadShmSeg (invalid shared segment parameter) 16710:01
Dr_willis2007-10-10 15:59:14.786 VideoOutputXv: Falling back to X shared memory video output.10:01
Dr_willis                              *** May be slow ***10:01
Dr_willislooks like theres some driver issues going on? or am i missreading the error messages?10:02
lagayeah, looks like it10:02
lagatry disabling compiz10:02
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mythbotNeither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "laga sing", sorry.10:03
therethinkerwhoops :P10:03
lagawhat the hell :)10:03
Dr_willisno more wobbly windows. :) heh.. lets try now10:03
lagahttp://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=16016700456810:03
laga^ this is great10:03
therethinkerErr >_>10:03
therethinkerThat's hilarious10:03
lagaafk, bbl10:04
Dr_willisAha! i think i figured it out..10:04
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Dr_williswhen running Mythtvfrontend.. be sure you are not 'ssh'd' to the OTEHR machine :)10:04
Dr_willislets try again10:04
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Dr_willisthere we go.10:10
Dr_willisX forwarding and video playback = not a good idea.10:10
lagaduh10:12
laga;)10:12
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Dr_willisi got to set up different obvious prompts for my machines10:13
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Dr_willisid ssh'd to the backend to get its mysql password10:14
Dr_willisthen frogot. :)10:14
therethinker$mcc10:20
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therethinkermythbot should have died... the server got unplugged...10:20
therethinkerIts rebooting10:20
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therethinker$mcc10:21
mythbotMythbuntu Control Centre - a admin panel for MythTV - Created and maintained by the mythbuntu team. http://www.mythbuntu.org/about10:21
therethinkerOkay... its good10:21
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Dr_willis i rember a video player somewhere , that could 'speed up' playback a few %  - like 5-10% so the show was still watchable.10:24
Dr_willisit tweaked the sound  also.10:24
Dr_willismythtv cant do that can it?10:24
lagait can10:25
lagahit "m" during playback10:25
lagait's called time stretch i think10:25
Dr_willisaha - i was way down the list. :) had to scroll down10:26
Dr_williswith comercial skipping and time stretching.. i might catchup  on my tv viewing10:28
superm1i always forget about time stretching10:32
superm1i used to use that to squeeze in shows that i normally couldn't watch between classes10:32
therethinker2hmm... it sounds cool10:32
Dr_willisheh. seems the voices dont match up now..10:32
Dr_willisbut its kungfu movies. so it dont matter10:33
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lagahello mythbot !10:44
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therethinker2hello mythbot!10:45
mythbotHey therethinker2.10:45
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superm1does mythbot not feel pain?10:46
therethinker2It can make you feel pain!10:46
therethinker2$infect superm110:46
mythbot/me takes control of superm1's computer, formats the hard drive, and installs Windows ME on it.10:46
laga$whack superm110:46
mythbot/me whacks superm110:46
superm1i see....10:46
therethinker2$runover superm110:46
mythbot/me takes wireless control of superm1's car, and runs him over10:46
lagarotfl10:46
tgm4883_laptop$whack tgm4883_laptop10:46
mythbot/me whacks tgm4883_laptop10:46
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tgm4883_laptopi just whacked myself10:46
therethinker2:P10:47
therethinker2Don't, please10:47
therethinker2$hug superm110:47
mythbotIf I had emotions, I'd laugh! No one would ever hug superm1!10:47
therethinker2oh, wait... I forgot...10:47
therethinker2(they're all bad...)10:47
lagarotfl10:48
therethinker2even poke...10:48
laga$poke therethinker210:48
mythbot/me stabs therethinker2 violently with a rusty spoon10:48
lagarotfl10:48
therethinker2D:10:48
superm1okay okay, enough playing with mythbot10:48
therethinker2Yeah...10:48
therethinker2but mommm10:49
therethinker2$poke laga10:49
mythbot/me stabs laga violently with a rusty spoon10:49
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therethinker2okay, I'll stop10:49
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therethinker2$runove.... I can't do it10:49
mythbotNeither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "please don't", sorry.10:49
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tgm4883_laptopi can10:51
tgm4883_laptop$runover laga10:51
mythbot/me takes wireless control of laga's car, and runs him over10:51
therethinker2:D10:51
tgm4883_laptopi got your back10:51
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therethinker2If there was a good action, I'd use it...10:51
lagainstead of high-fiving?10:52
laga$poke tgm4883_laptop10:52
mythbot/me stabs tgm4883_laptop violently with a rusty spoon10:52
lagacomes pretty close10:52
lagaok.10:52
therethinker2:P10:52
lagalet's stop it.10:52
therethinker2yes10:52
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therethinker2Aww. we scared Dr_willis10:53
therethinker2$ask10:53
mythbotAlthough I didn't know, ubotu says: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)10:53
therethinker2$hello10:53
mythbotWelcome to #Ubuntu-mythtv.  Please state your question or comment.10:53
therethinker2$laga do that10:58
mythbotNeither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "laga do", sorry.10:58
therethinker2eh... sorry10:58
therethinker2oh, yeah10:59
therethinker$laga do that10:59
mythbotlaga is to work on do that10:59
mythbotOperationalError: no such table: Assign (file "/var/nas/phenny/modules/help.py", line 25, in f_chelp)10:59
therethinkeryeah... you can see the basis for it10:59
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reldruhhello. I just installed a mythtv frontend on an old laptop using the guide on help.ubuntu.com and it's all working now, but when I try and watch TV or a recording the picture is very jerky11:00
directhexreldruh, wireless?11:01
lagareldruh, 486?11:01
reldruhdirecthex, no, wired, using the exact same cable as on my other frontend11:01
tgm4883_laptopreldruh, system specs11:01
directhexvesa!11:01
reldruhI'm not sure about the specs. It's an old laptop but it used to run XP, I believe11:01
reldruhwindows 98 at the very least11:01
reldruhvesa?11:01
tgm4883_laptopreldruh, model number11:02
tgm4883_laptopand brand11:02
reldruhcompaq presario 120011:02
directhexreldruh, myth needs an actual video driver to do video11:02
tgm4883_laptopnot going to happen11:02
directhexreldruh, vesa is linux's equivalent to the "standard vga adapter" driver in windows that doesn't do anything11:02
tgm4883_laptop$specs11:02
mythbotLooking for recommended hardware specs?  Look no further than here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57020411:02
tgm4883_laptop498mhz is too slow11:02
directhextgm4883 my wife had one when she was younger iirc. k6-250 or thereabouts11:02
directhex35011:03
directhexhey, 500, not far off11:03
reldruhthese are the specs just for a frontend?11:03
tgm4883_laptopreldruh, it may be possible, but you would have to transcode to something much lower before you watch it11:04
tgm4883_laptopreldruh, try this11:04
tgm4883_laptopcopy the file over first, then try watching it from there11:05
tgm4883_laptopand which guide on there did you follow11:05
reldruhI followed the guide here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Feisty_Frontend#head-96146f42d923bb5ce3d9b1f58861701dbd2ef42e11:05
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tgm4883_laptophmm11:06
tgm4883_laptopwhat does lspci | grep direct output?11:06
tgm4883_laptoplspci | grep direct11:06
directhextgm4883 wrong tree again. grepping for direct is when you want glxinfo11:07
tgm4883_laptoparg11:07
tgm4883_laptopyour right11:07
reldruhhang on, it's a slow comp. It's starting up now11:07
tgm4883_laptopi'm leaving11:07
tgm4883_laptopi can't get anything right today11:07
tgm4883_laptopj/k, i'll stay.  But directhex you have to follow me around and correct what I say11:08
tgm4883_laptopso do this and let us know what it says11:08
tgm4883_laptopglxinfo | grep direct11:08
directhextgm4883, no chance of gl on that thing11:08
tgm4883_laptopyea your probably right11:08
tgm4883_laptopi just want to see what it says11:09
tgm4883_laptopit's funny11:09
tgm4883_laptop12.1 in screen11:09
tgm4883_laptopthen they went up to 17in, and now people want them small11:09
directhexnothing wrong with that. the laptop i have my eye on has a 12.1" screen11:10
tgm4883_laptopexactly11:10
tgm4883_laptopI got my eye on a 14.1 in tablet11:10
tgm4883_laptopreldruh, still booting?11:14
tgm4883_laptopi'm pretty sure there isn't much you can do11:14
tgm4883_laptop500mhz, 60MB ram11:14
reldruhyeah, it's still booting11:14
reldruh:-(11:14
tgm4883_laptopalthough11:14
tgm4883_laptopi remember reading a long time back that in windows dvdrom required only 300mhz11:15
tgm4883_laptopso, maybe there is something you can do11:15
tgm4883_laptopbut I think that more ram is necessary for even that11:15
directhextgm4883_laptop, if it's a k6, it'd need to be 500mhz11:15
directhextgm4883 and yes, MOAR RAMS11:15
reldruhhaha11:15
tgm4883_laptopdirecthex, what?11:15
reldruhI thought the requirements for a frontend were super low11:15
reldruhguess I should have checked more closely before starting11:15
tgm4883_laptopreldruh, heh, 800mhz is pretty low11:16
reldruhfor new hardware, sure :-)11:16
tgm4883_laptopdirecthex, from wikipedia, Priced at 1200, the 1200 contained an energetic 500MHz AMD K6-2 Processor and a flagship Lithium Ion battery.11:16
reldruhI'm on the same wikipedia page11:16
tgm4883_laptopheh, even for old hardware.  Free Geek will give you a 1.5 - 1.9Ghz computer11:16
directhextgm4883_laptop, k6-2 is significantly worse per clock than p2. 300mhz was enough, at ~100% cpu use, on a p211:16
reldruhFree Geek?11:16
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tgm4883_laptopdirecthex, ah, that makes more sense now11:17
tgm4883_laptopreldruh, it's a computer shop in portland oregon11:17
tgm4883_laptopyou just have to either11:17
tgm4883_laptopA)  complete building 6 computers for them11:17
tgm4883_laptopor B) volunteer 24 hours11:17
tgm4883_laptopthen you get a computer with ubuntu installed :)11:18
reldruhsounds like you have to be in Oregon to do that11:18
therethinker2tgm4883_laptop: sounds cool...11:18
tgm4883_laptopyep11:18
therethinker2the 6 computers sounds quick...11:18
tgm4883_laptopbtw, you are all invited to the Oregon Gutsy Release Extravaganza11:18
therethinker2Sorry, I'm not flying out for that :P11:19
tgm4883_laptopfine, be a party pooper11:19
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therethinker2Unless... you pay for the airfare/hotel11:20
lagai cant drink in the US :/11:20
reldruhhere's a few more: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseParties11:20
tgm4883_laptopage?11:20
therethinker2haha11:20
directhexlaga, i know, silly innit11:20
tgm4883_laptopsome places are 18 i think11:20
tgm4883_laptoplousiana11:20
lagatgm4883_laptop: i'm 2011:21
directhexlaga, own a gun from age three or so, but no sex or booze until your late 40s11:21
tgm4883_laptopthey will have to pry my gun from my cold dead hands11:21
directhexi has a rat on me11:22
lagai'm not a redneck. i still drive that car in my yard11:22
directhexgermans can't be rednecks!11:22
therethinker:P11:23
tgm4883_laptopwhose using gutsy right now?11:23
therethinkerI'm using it in a VM11:23
therethinkerI might go to the one near me...11:23
directhexthey can be neo-nazis, or goths, or put their towels on all the sun loungers at like 5am before anyone else has woken up. but not rednecks!11:23
therethinker$poke directhex11:23
mythbot/me stabs directhex violently with a rusty spoon11:23
therethinkerthat's for using stereotypes11:24
tgm4883_laptopyea11:24
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tgm4883_laptopno stereotypes you cracker11:24
therethinker$infect directhex11:24
mythbot/me takes control of directhex's computer, formats the hard drive, and installs Windows ME on it.11:24
therethinkertgm4883_laptop, help me! :P11:24
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tgm4883_laptopthere are two types of people I don't like.  The people who don't like other people because of stereotypes and where they are from, and the dutch11:25
therethinker:P11:25
tgm4883_laptop$runover directhex11:25
mythbot/me takes wireless control of directhex's car, and runs him over11:25
directhexwe don't take kindly to people who don't take kindly around here!11:25
therethinkerStereotypers have low IQ, you know.11:25
tgm4883_laptopwtf, why does ALT+F4 = space?11:26
lagatherethinker: _all_ of them11:26
therethinkerI don't know11:26
therethinkerHmm11:26
therethinker11:26
therethinkerthat's weird >_>11:26
tgm4883_laptopim bored11:26
therethinker$smack tgm488311:26
mythbotNeither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "smack tgm4883", sorry.11:26
tgm4883_laptopis it just a gutsy thing or does that happen in feisty too?11:26
therethinker$therethinker debconf11:26
mythbotNeither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "please don't", sorry.11:27
therethinkerit will probably blow up :P11:27
therethinkerwow... didn't11:27
therethinker$laga tell therethinker how to do debconf11:27
mythbotlaga is to work on tell therethinker how to do debconf11:27
therethinkerIt should store that in a db... oh well... *works on debconf*11:27
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therethinkerHello NeoFax11:28
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therethinkerhello jono11:28
tgm4883_laptop$hello11:29
mythbotWelcome to #Ubuntu-mythtv.  Please state your question or comment.11:29
jonohey11:29
NeoFaxtherethinker: Hello11:29
tgm4883_laptopjono, are you the jono on planet ubuntu?11:29
jonotgm4883_laptop: yep11:29
tgm4883_laptopsweet11:29
reldruhhow do I stop X so I can drop to the command line? Ctrl+alt+backspace just restarts it.11:29
tgm4883_laptopjust wondering11:29
jonotgm4883_laptop: :)11:30
tgm4883_laptopi'm getting all the stuff straighted out with our release party :)11:30
therethinker2crtl+alt+f1?11:30
therethinker2wait11:30
therethinker2(to get back, ctrl+alt+f6... I think... might be 7)11:30
directhexgah, of all the people to turn up when i'm on a diet, it's the guy with the surname "bacon"11:30
therethinker2tgm4883_laptop, are you planning?11:30
tgm4883_laptopyea, me and H264 are planning the Oregon team party11:31
directhexreldruh, change to a VT with ctrl-alt-f1, log in, and run invoke-rc.d gdm stop11:31
directhexreldruh, not sure why you want to though11:31
therethinker2sweet11:31
therethinker2 $good-action tgm4883 :P11:31
tgm4883_laptopwere running short on things to do though11:31
therethinker2pin the guts on the gibbon?11:32
tgm4883_laptopFree Geek shot down our computer building competition11:32
reldruhdirecthex: I didn't have ssh installed, not part of the mythtv metapackage, I guess11:32
tgm4883_laptoptherethinker2, nice11:32
therethinker2Who doesn't like sticking intestinal tracks on funny monkies?11:32
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directhexreldruh, indeed it's not. but you don't need to *stop* x to install it11:32
therethinker2Uh... download GG?11:33
reldruhdirecthex: I tried exiting mythtv but it just restarted it11:33
reldruhI couldn't get a terminal open11:33
therethinker2\burn it to a disk....11:33
tgm4883_laptoptherethinker2, we are planning on having it already to go11:33
directhexreldruh, ctrl-alt-f1 to switch away from it - ctrl-alt-f7 to go back11:33
therethinker2Yeah, but now everyone can experience the download!11:33
tgm4883_laptopsweet11:33
reldruhthanks :-)11:33
tgm4883_laptopand we can all watch the download bar go accross the screen11:34
therethinker2Better yet, set up the downloader like on a giant projector... and then when it hits 100%, whip the CDs at people!11:34
therethinker2Or make a CD cannon and shoot them!11:34
tgm4883_laptopyea, I can see it now11:34
therethinker2download bars are fun11:34
tgm4883_laptop"Man arrested for beheading Ubuntu fan's with CD's"11:34
tgm4883_laptopstory at 11:0011:34
therethinker2s/Man/Men11:35
therethinker2Or... er... microwave them?11:35
therethinker2so when you stick them in the drive, they explode11:35
therethinker2say its new holographic storage technology11:35
therethinker2(if they ask why its all damaged)11:35
reldruhall right, I'm sorry it took so long to get this information, but you guys wanted to see the output of glxinfo?11:37
therethinker2Yus11:37
reldruh"Error: unable to open display (null)11:38
reldruh"11:38
tgm4883_laptopyea11:38
tgm4883_laptopstop11:38
therethinker$pastebin11:38
tgm4883_laptop!pastebin11:38
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)11:38
mythbotpastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste!)11:38
mythbotAlthough I didn't know, ubotu says: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)11:38
reldruhthat's the whole output...11:38
therethinkerOh..11:38
tgm4883_laptopheh11:38
therethinkerWe jumped :P11:38
tgm4883_laptopwe just flooded the channel more than you hee11:38
reldruhhaha11:38
therethinker:P11:38
reldruhI wish I was lucky enough to have enough output to pastebin :-)11:38
therethinkerEVERYONE! HE'S POSTING A LOG!! PASTEBIN!!!11:39
tgm4883_laptoptherethinker, why did mythbot respond twice?11:39
therethinker($pastebin and !pastebin's rain down on channel)11:39
therethinkerOh, never use !11:39
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tgm4883_laptoptherethinker, never?11:39
therethinkerbecause mythbot sees it, and thinks it asked for pastebin11:39
therethinkerit knows about pastebin:11:39
therethinker$pastebin11:39
mythbotpastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste!)11:39
tgm4883_laptopthats funny11:40
therethinkerbut it saw ubotu say "pastebin is...", and went to tell us11:40
therethinkerYeah, I need to fix it...11:40
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therethinker!pastebin11:41
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)11:41
therethinkerWe're all happy now :-)11:41
therethinker$linux11:41
mythbotAlthough I didn't know, ubotu says: Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux11:41
tgm4883_laptopyay11:41
therethinkerAnyone know about sqlite3 db locks?11:41
foxbuntu$therethinker11:41
mythbottherethinker is the programmer who created me. He mainly works on mcc.11:41
therethinker:-D11:41
foxbuntu$suck11:41
mythbotSorry, I neither I or ubotu knew, but Wikipedia says: "The act of sucking, the creation of a partial vacuum, or region of low pressure" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suck11:41
foxbuntuha11:42
therethinker$laga do that and that and that11:42
mythbotlaga is to work on do that and that and that11:42
laga$laga11:42
mythbotlaga is from Germany. He works on Mythbuntu.11:42
therethinkerhmm... still not working...11:42
therethinkerdamn DB gets locked11:43
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therethinker$laga do that and that and that11:44
mythbotlaga is to work on do that and that and that11:44
therethinkerI give up11:44
therethinkerOkay, meaningful discussion time11:44
tgm4883_laptop$runover therethinker11:44
mythbot/me takes wireless control of therethinker's car, and runs him over11:44
therethinker$daily tgm4883_laptop11:45
mythbot/me gives tgm4883_laptop the finger11:45
tgm4883_laptopnice11:45
therethinkeryeah... $daily changes daily... :P11:45
laga$poke ubiquity11:46
mythbot/me stabs ubiquity violently with a rusty spoon11:46
lagahahahah11:46
lagathat cheers me up every time11:46
therethinker2:P11:46
therethinker2I'm glad I could make your world a better place, by having a  robot stab someone with a blunt object :P11:47
NeoFaxIs the next update of mythbuntu going to have appletrailer plugin?  I think this is good as right now every update I have to re add the menu11:47
therethinker2^^ or something?11:47
therethinker2its appletrailer in multiverse?11:47
lagaNeoFax: you can copy the menu xml to ~11:47
lagatherethinker2: no11:47
lagafoxbuntu meant to package it a long time ago..11:47
therethinker2aww... thought I could help :P11:47
lagait's a nifty plugin11:47
therethinker2sounds fun11:47
lagaheh11:47
lagareminds me, i need to install it on the gf's box11:48
NeoFaxAlso, is there a plugin that can add a trailer and a avi file before a movie is played?  Kinda like at a real theater?11:48
tgm4883_laptopNeoFax, talk to foxbuntu11:48
tgm4883_laptopNeoFax, yea it's called a playlist11:48
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NeoFaxtgm4883_laptop: Thanks!11:48
tgm4883_laptopNeoFax, where do I know that from.....11:49
therethinker2$slap tgm4883_11:49
mythbot/me slaps tgm4883_11:49
therethinker2you are not a genius11:49
tgm4883_laptopdo you live inn the PNW?11:49
therethinker2PNW?11:53
NeoFaxtgm4883_laptop: No, I live near Sacramento11:53
tgm4883_laptopPacific NorthWest11:53
tgm4883_laptopah11:53
therethinker2Wow... thats a wierd delay11:53
NeoFaxtgm4883_laptop: Where do you know it from a wiki?11:53
tgm4883_laptopidk, are you part of the PNW or Oregon LoCo teams?11:54
NeoFaxNo, i have never been in a LoCo or LUG or anything like that.11:55
tgm4883_laptoptherethinkersucks11:55
tgm4883_laptopwhoops11:55
tgm4883_laptopnow i have to change all my passwords11:55
tgm4883_laptopj/k, therethinker doesn't suck11:55
NeoFaxYou probably remember me from a week ago when I had a problem setting up mythbuntu11:55
tgm4883_laptopheh, could be11:55
NeoFaxAnyone here good with regular expressions?  I have a dilemma11:56
NeoFaxI accidentally jacked up my mp3 titles and filenames11:56
tgm4883_laptopyep, want to see happy, sad, grumpy, or surprised11:56
therethinker2:P11:56
NeoFaxtgm4883_laptop: Funny! ;^)11:56
therethinker2tgm488315133711:57
therethinker2now I have to change MY passwords11:57
tgm4883_laptopnice11:57
therethinker2$runover NeoFax11:58
mythbot/me takes wireless control of neofax's car, and runs him over11:58
NeoFaxI thought EasyTag would create a folder if I used the "\" character.  That is not the case.  It just thinks it is a normal character.11:58
tgm4883_laptopNeofax, wouldn't it be / not \11:58
NeoFaxSo, now I have like 100 mp3's with the following format /home/music/genre/artist/year-album/title.mp3.  How would I go about changing the filename to just title.mp3?11:59
NeoFaxtgm4883_laptop: I know that now!!!11:59
tgm4883_laptopheh11:59
tgm4883_laptopcouldn't you just use some rename prog that grabs the title from the ID3 tag?12:00
NeoFaxThe ID3 tag was renamed as well.  EasyTag does this for you.12:01
tgm4883_laptopheh12:01
tgm4883_laptopthat doesn't sound like a good idea12:01
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foxbuntuNeoFax, I intend to add that plugin to gutsy+1 of Mythbuntu12:02
therethinker$laga do that and that and that and that12:02
mythbotlaga is to work on do that and that and that and that12:02
therethinkerrejoice! It works!12:02
foxbuntu$laga likes goats12:02
mythbotlaga is to work on likes goats12:02
therethinkerShould have not let foxbuntu see...12:02
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foxbuntuhaha12:02
foxbuntutherethinker, I see all...I know all12:02
tgm4883_laptopfoxbuntu, if you can package it for the ppa i think that therethinker can make mcc enable the ppa repo12:02
therethinkerYeah, I can12:03
foxbuntutgm4883_laptop, hmm12:03
foxbuntuI will have to get back on that one the n12:03
superm1oh i dont know about enabling the PPA repo.  that is the same place as weekly fixes12:04
foxbuntuwe will see...I was close to done before...its just a python script12:04
superm1i dont think that's a good idea to have on so easily12:04
foxbuntusuperm1, agreed there12:04
tgm4883_laptopsuperm1, right, what I meant was, enable a ppa repo12:05
tgm4883_laptopand that we should have an unofficial plugins repo12:05
tgm4883_laptoperr ppa12:05
superm1not in mcc is all i'm saying12:05
superm1then people associate any problems from hitting that button with mythbuntu12:05
foxbuntuagreed...too man bafoons will enable and install potentialy unstable software12:06
foxbuntuthus finding their way here to $laga12:06
tgm4883_laptopyes, those bafoons12:07
foxbuntu$laga moron's with broken installs because therethinker enabled the ppa12:07
mythbotlaga is to work on moron's with broken installs because therethinker enabled the ppa12:07
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foxbuntusuperm1, if I get that package ready for the apple thing what should I do with it?12:08
foxbuntubranch it?12:08
superm1worry about it later12:08
therethinker$therethinker debconf12:08
superm1focus on it after gutsy is out12:08
mythbotNeither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "please don't", sorry.12:09
foxbuntusuperm1, ok...its back off the list12:09
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therethinker$therethinker debconf12:09
foxbuntu$wacks off12:09
therethinker$laga debconf12:09
therethinker:P12:09
therethinker$mcc12:09
foxbuntu$whacks off12:09
foxbuntuarg12:09
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tgm4883_laptophaha12:10
foxbuntu$whacks off12:10
therethinker:P12:10
foxbuntu$porn12:10
tgm4883_laptopfoxbuntu needs a hobby12:10
therethinker:P12:10
therethinkertyes12:10
foxbuntuI know I do12:10
tgm4883_laptopwell besides whacking off12:10
foxbuntutherethinker, what did you block bad words now?12:10
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therethinkerNo :P12:11
foxbuntu$laga12:11
tgm4883_laptopfoxbuntu, every time you do that god kills a kitten12:11
therethinker:P12:11
foxbuntuwow...lot of dead kittens out there then12:11
superm1!ohmy | foxbuntu12:11
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ubotufoxbuntu: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.12:11
foxbuntumust be pilling up by now12:11
foxbuntusuperm1, I like that one12:11
therethinker:P12:11
therethinkerYes, I agree :-)12:12
foxbuntu!ohmy | superm112:12
ubotusuperm1: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.12:12
superm1foxbuntu, seriously.12:12
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therethinkerReally12:12
=== foxbuntu moving to dev
therethinkerdear god12:12
therethinkerNOOOO12:12
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=== foxbuntu going idle
=== therethinker phew
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mythbotSorry, I neither I or ubotu knew, but Wikipedia says: "Todo, a Mexican humor magazine." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todo12:14
mythbotSorry, I neither I or ubotu knew, but Wikipedia says: "Todo, a Mexican humor magazine." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todo12:15
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mythbotSorry, I neither I or ubotu knew, but Wikipedia says: "Todo, a Mexican humor magazine." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todo12:15
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therethinkerwow.. really sorry for bot spam,,, really12:16
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therethinkerOkay, really, good now ;-)12:17
therethinker$therethinker debconf12:18
mythbotNeither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "please don't", sorry.12:18
therethinker$todo12:18
mythbottherethinker, you are you work on do something12:18
therethinker$todo12:18
mythbottherethinker, you are you work on debconf12:18
therethinker :-)12:18
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therethinkerhello biffle12:24
therethinkerhello andruk12:24
mythbotNeither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "please don't", sorry.12:24
laga$todo12:27
mythbotlaga, you are you work on moron's with broken installs because therethinker enabled the ppa12:27
lagawhat the hell.12:27
therethinkerThat was not me... I bet it was foxbuntu12:27
therethinker$laga whatever12:27
mythbotNeither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "laga whatever", sorry.12:27
therethinker...12:28
laga$therethinker fix broken bot12:28
mythbottherethinker is to work on fix broken bot12:28
therethinker$todo12:28
mythbottherethinker, you are you work on fix broken bot12:28
therethinker:D12:28
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therethinker$laga whatever12:28
mythbotNeither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "laga whatever", sorry.12:28
therethinkerOhh... right... It needs to be longer than 1 word12:28
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therethinker$laga whatever12:29
therethinker$laga whatever you want12:29
mythbotNeither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "please don't", sorry.12:29
laga$therethinker whatever you want12:29
mythbotNeither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "please don't", sorry.12:29
laga$therethinker12:30
mythbottherethinker is the programmer who created me. He mainly works on mcc.12:30
laga$laga12:30
mythbotlaga is from Germany. He works on Mythbuntu.12:30
therethinker2try todo ;-)12:30
laga$todo12:30
mythbotlaga, you are you work on moron's with broken installs because therethinker enabled the ppa12:30
therethinker$laga do whatever12:31
mythbotNeither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "please don't", sorry.12:31
therethinker$laga do whatever you really want so okay this is long12:31
laga$therethinker fix it12:31
mythbotNeither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "please don't", sorry.12:31
mythbotNeither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "please don't", sorry.12:31
therethinker$therethinker fix it12:42
mythbotNeither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "please don't", sorry.12:42
therethinkerI think they'res a prob. w/ my name12:43
lagamight be your karma12:44
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=== therethinker nices laga
therethinker$therethinker fix the bot12:44
mythbotNeither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "please don't", sorry.12:44
therethinkerGRahhH!12:44
therethinker$todo12:44
mythbottherethinker, you are you work on fix broken bot12:45
therethinker$therethinker fix broken bot12:45
mythbotNeither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "please don't", sorry.12:45
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mythbotNeither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "please don't", sorry.12:53
lagao_O12:53
mythbotNeither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "laga do", sorry.12:53
therethinker:P12:53
therethinkerI'm testing :p12:53
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mythbotNeither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "laga go", sorry.12:54
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therethinkerlaga, can I get a $todo?12:55
therethinker$therethinker nothing, he fixed the bot!12:55
mythbottherethinker is to work on nothing, he fixed the bot!12:55
therethinker$todo12:55
mythbottherethinker, you are you work on nothing, he fixed the bot!12:55
laga$todo12:55
mythbotlaga, you are you work on go do that12:55
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foxbuntusuperm1, you around?12:56
lagapong foxbuntu12:58
lagaerr, not really.12:58
foxbuntulaga, perhaps you know...12:58
foxbuntuis there a rough est on the release date for .21?12:58
foxbuntuthere are some theme handling changes in .21 that I would like to dev around but...idk if .21 is going to be out soon enough12:59
lagait was supposed to be released around this time, but due to zap2it that didn't happen12:59
lagasince there are some big oustandinges changes, eg another ffmpeg merge, it won't happen before christmas I GUESS01:00
foxbuntuhmm01:02
foxbuntuI am wondering what I should do then01:02
lagawhat's up?01:02
directhexanother ffmpeg merge will be brilliant though01:02
foxbuntubuild on new and try to back port, or build on new and forget a release for old until new is released01:02
directhex0.21 will be the hd release!01:02
lagadirecthex: h264?01:02
lagadirecthex: heh01:02
directhexlaga, precisely!01:03
lagayu01:03
lagap01:03
directhexeveryone but the yanks uses h264 for hd01:03
foxbuntulaga, I am working on a Mythbuntu MythTV theme01:03
lagayeah. what features do you need?01:04
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foxbuntuthe new font rendering01:04
foxbuntuand a couple of others I think01:04
foxbuntusome OSD stuff01:04
lagahum01:04
foxbuntuI don't know them all off hand01:04
foxbuntuthe font rendering the bigest01:04
lagadidntz know there were so many changes01:04
foxbuntutons01:05
foxbuntuits got me considering upgrading my live box from trunk01:05
lagado it for 0.20 then and forward-port stuff i'd say01:05
foxbuntuI hate to do that tho01:05
lagawell, we have trunk builds ;)01:05
foxbuntulaga, ah yes...forgot about the builds01:05
foxbuntulaga, Idk if that theme will be that far along yet01:06
lagayes01:07
foxbuntuI may just wait to throw it in gutsy+1 release as a new package if things with other updates surrounding the new artwork take01:07
laga$idk01:07
mythbotSorry, I neither I or ubotu knew, but Wikipedia says: "Below is a list of both complete and abbreviated internet slang phrases." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idk01:07
foxbuntu$laga idk01:07
mythbotlaga is to work on idk01:07
lagao_O01:08
foxbuntuO_o01:08
foxbuntulaga, you not on the wrong side of the pond are you (with Daviey)01:09
lagai'm on the right side, with daviey01:09
therethinker:P01:09
therethinker$todo01:09
mythbottherethinker, you are you work on nothing, he fixed the bot!01:09
therethinker$therethinker finding something good01:10
mythbottherethinker is to work on finding something good01:10
therethinker$todo01:10
foxbuntu$todo01:10
mythbottherethinker, you are you work on finding something good01:10
mythbotfoxbuntu, you are you work on http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7037443.stm01:10
therethinkerVoila01:10
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therethinkerHello Tari!01:10
foxbuntucrazy brits01:10
therethinkerI'm not british01:11
lagafoxbuntu: whats up with the pond?01:11
foxbuntubut the article was from the bbc.co.uk01:11
therethinkerOhhh :P01:11
therethinkerit happened in aussi, though01:11
foxbuntulaga, the pond01:11
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therethinkerfoxbuntu; hahaha01:11
foxbuntutherethinker the makes sense01:11
MythbuntuGuest91hello01:11
therethinker$hello01:12
foxbuntuHello01:12
mythbotWelcome to #Ubuntu-mythtv.  Please state your question or comment.01:12
foxbuntutherethinkernice01:12
therethinker:-)01:12
foxbuntu$goodbye01:12
therethinkertgm4883 made it ;-)01:12
mythbotSorry, I neither I or ubotu knew, but Wikipedia says: "Goodbye is a traditional parting phrase used in the English language." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodbye01:12
therethinkerlmao-- no01:12
foxbuntuargh01:12
therethinkerMythbuntuGuest91: please excuse foxbuntu here...01:12
MythbuntuGuest91lol01:12
foxbuntu...01:12
therethinkerwhat is your question/comment/concern?01:12
MythbuntuGuest91that was funny01:12
lagasuperm1: i think i fixed the crash.01:13
therethinkeror did you just drop by to say hello?01:13
MythbuntuGuest91is this where i ask questions about mythbuntu01:13
lagaMythbuntuGuest91: yes01:13
MythbuntuGuest91cool01:13
foxbuntuMythbuntuGuest91, yup01:13
foxbuntulaga has no answers however01:13
MythbuntuGuest91ok i got it installed now.. i do not know that to do01:13
therethinkerdid you run mythtv-setup?01:14
MythbuntuGuest91i think so01:14
MythbuntuGuest91yes01:14
MythbuntuGuest91i guess my question is. what is a good not to expensive video card01:15
foxbuntuvideo card or tuner?01:15
therethinker$specs01:15
mythbotLooking for recommended hardware specs?  Look no further than here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57020401:15
therethinkeris there one on there?01:15
MythbuntuGuest91what do i do if i have a hd tv?01:15
therethinkerto do HDTV, you'll need a computer with at least 3Ghtz proccessor01:15
therethinkerand a good tuner01:16
directhextherethinker that's something of an oversimplification isn't it? 3ghz of pentium-4 won't get you very far with h26401:16
therethinkernote the "at least"01:16
therethinkerIf you have under that, it won't work :P01:16
MythbuntuGuest91aww.. that sucks01:17
therethinkerbut standard def, you can do.01:17
therethinkerThe PVR-150 is really great01:17
directhexMythbuntuGuest91, where are you based globally? it makes a difference to what you can watch01:17
MythbuntuGuest91so this is not a good replacement for my dvr?01:17
MythbuntuGuest91texas01:17
directhextherethinker but dumb in countries with an open dvb network01:17
MythbuntuGuest91waco01:17
directhexbleh, yankland. best to do whatever one of the local yanklanders says then. it'll be unpleasant01:18
therethinkerdirecthex; but he's in the US... I checked his IP :P01:18
therethinker(and he confirmed that)01:18
directhextherethinker, i assumed mythbuntuguestfoo was some kind of cgi-irc, not a direct connection01:19
therethinkerwell, it isn't01:19
MythbuntuGuest91so a tivo box is better than this01:19
therethinkerunless the server is in waco texas too01:19
therethinkerMythbuntuGuest91: well, it depends what you want to do01:19
therethinkerthis is really great if you want to watch it on several TVs01:19
MythbuntuGuest91i want to replace my tivo01:20
therethinkeror, if you already have a computer with the specs01:20
MythbuntuGuest91hmm01:20
foxbuntuMythbuntuGuest91, I call Mythbuntu TiVO on Steriods01:21
MythbuntuGuest91where are yall?01:21

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